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Gun Thread: First Sunday in 2022 Edition!
2022? Huh? Wha? How in the ever-loving hell did that happen?
Sig Sauer P230
The SL model is all stainless, while the blued version has an aluminum frame. The magazine release is located behind the magazine floorplate which bugs some people, and really bugs other people. This is a very solid, well-made gun and isn't as 'snappy' as some lighter .380s can be.
A: Why yes! Yes I did!
New Ruger Precision Rimfire next to Christiansen Ranger. 18" bbl on RPR and 16" bbl on Ranger.
Shoot-off today: Ranger shot tighter five-round groups of CCI Subsonic and CCI MiniMag. BUT, take a look at them with Geco Match ammo. Ranger top and bottom left, with Ruger top and bottom right. All four under an inch and the RPR takes it with 1/2" group at 50 yards.
Next up, our pal Butch sends us a picture of a Jungle Carbine he's been working on.
Here is a picture of my Lee-Enfield No. 5 Mk 1, unofficially AKA Jungle Carbine. She was manufactured by Birmingham Small Arms (BSA) in 1945. I seem to have been bitten by the bolt action milsurp bug; I am in the process of acquiring parts to build a M1917 rifle. The barrel was shot out, so I had it re-barreled by Jim Albright of Albright Firearm Service. In addition to machining the distinctive lightning cuts, he refinished the steel bits and bobs. I highly recommend him. Other than a deep clean with Simple Green and several coats of boiled linseed oil, I left the wood furniture as is. The dents, dings, and scratches add character and show she's been there and done that.Very nice, Butch! These are great rifles and a lot of fun to shoot. I'm always a little surprised when I take mine out at the stoutness of the .303 British round. Congratulations on a very nice rifle!
In July 1940, the US Army found that it had just over 21,000 shotguns in its inventory. This was clearly inadequate to meet the needs for the expanding US military. To meet the need, US Army Ordinance contracted with Winchester for 1,494 Winchester Model 97 trench guns in November 1941. Starting on January 6, 1942, the US Army placed additional orders for Winchester Model 97s in both trench gun (fitted w/ sling swivels, handguard, and bayonet lug) and riot gun configurations totaling in the thousands by June 1942. This trench gun is one of the early production trench guns as shown by the WWI pattern handguard (with six rows of holes), barrel manufactured in 1941, the "US" property mark w/o the Ordinance Corps "flaming bomb," and the "W.B." inspection mark for Colonel Waldemar Broberg, the Chief of Winchester's Ordinance District from July 1941 to June 1942.
The standard bayonet for all US trench guns was the M1917. When attached to the trench gun, this bayonet gives the weapon a uniquely fearsome appearance. No M1917 bayonets were made for WWII; this example (and its leather scabbard) are leftovers from WWI.
Military shotgun ammunition should have been loads of 00 buckshot in brass casings as pictured. The demand for ammo exceeded the supply, so the military pressed paper shotgun shells from the commercial market into service. This proved a problem in wet, humid climates like the South Pacific, where paper shells quickly fell apart in these conditions. It wasn't until near the end of WWII did all-brass shotgun shells become more common than paper shells. Despite this, the Model 97 trench gun gained favor from the USMC, who used both the Winchester Model 97 and Model 12 extensively in their Pacific campaigns. The USMC's primary complaint about the shotgun was the lack of ammunition. The basic load of 25 to 50 shells per shotgun was never enough in combat conditions.
Riot gun versions of the Winchester Model 97 were meant to arm base security forces, defense contractor security guards, and organizations involved in the war effort (TVA, Manhattan Project, and others). That didn't stop them from making their way into combat, primarily with the USMC. This riot gun was made after the start of WWII, as evidenced by the barrel with a 1942 manufacturing date, the "US" property mark with an Ordinance Corps "flaming bomb," and the "W.B" inspection mark of Colonel Broberg. By the end of Model 97 production in March 1943, Winchester delivered 24,897 Model 97s in all configurations to the military. Despite the urge to reduce cost and simplify production processes, all Model 97 shotguns were finished in the same commercial quality blue for the entire production run. It's not known why this was case.
Unlike other military weapons (M1 Garands, M1 carbines, M1911 pistols, etc.), the military Model 97s never became surplus post WWII. Surviving weapons were photographed in action in both Korea and Vietnam. Military Model 97s are very difficult to come by on the collector's market because they are very scarce. Research to date indicates that almost all surviving Model 97s in military inventory (from both WWI and WWII production) were transferred to the South Vietnamese government, where they were captured by the NVA upon the fall of Saigon, many still in their original packing crates.Holy Shitballs, Ed L! Very nicely done! Thank you!
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Nub Maduro by Oliva at Cigars International. A little pricier than my normal fare, but worth a look!
For all you cigar aficionados out there, what online or brick & mortar stores do you use? It'd be nice to have a few more options and perhaps help some smaller rollers or local stores with some business. Let me know in the comments (use tiny url or similar, please) or just email me the link information and I will make a list and publish in an upcoming thread. Please include your nic, let us know which cigars you like, and tell is what (if anything) makes the store special. Thanks!
Here's the She Equips Herself girl with a review of the Ruger LCP Max!
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2022 07:00 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:00 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:01 PM (a3Q+t)
Evening Mr Weasel!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 07:02 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 07:03 PM (zS6T2)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 02, 2022 07:03 PM (AJNay)
Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2022 07:03 PM (2JoB8)
And hello to all good gub 'ettes and 'rons!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 02, 2022 07:03 PM (v23vE)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 07:04 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: JT at January 02, 2022 07:05 PM (arJlL)
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Howdy S'puppy!
Howdy all y'all!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:05 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 07:06 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 07:07 PM (VEeVy)
Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2022 07:07 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 02, 2022 07:07 PM (Xrfse)
Weasel, I understand why you like Sig Sauer so much. I confess to being a Sig fanboy, especially after my introduction to the brand via the P226 Tacops. I'm looking at adding more Sigs to the collection - with any luck, the M18 before the end of the year...maybe the P365???
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 02, 2022 07:08 PM (CdZ4i)
https://www.tabacalera-aragon.com/
Farm/Factory to you. I mean it. I've been into cigars for over a decade and it's always worth a shot with the little guys who probably only sell in Central America/South America.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2022 07:08 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:09 PM (0IeYL)
Bravo
Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2022 07:09 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:10 PM (a3Q+t)
Red, that is nice grouping. What was the weather up there like?
And I am loving the pics of these old war horses. Butch and Ed L, I hope you have many a fun time at the range with those beauties.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:10 PM (mcfjc)
I think of my P290 as an alternate carry gun to the J-frame, but in practice it
gotta love the Flaming Onion stamp on the Winchester !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:10 PM (JE6lG)
I bet the aluminum frame in .32 ACP is pretty nice. Probably exactly like the FEG clone with an aluminum frame.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:11 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 07:11 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 07:06 PM (WF/xn)
My BIL has a Bersa Thunder
380 that looks a lot like it
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 07:11 PM (WF/xn)
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Buying Sigs can get out of control. It can get out of control and you will be lucky to live through it.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:12 PM (kHv79)
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Carrying around the almost 500 rounds you'd need if you were going full auto for a minute could be a backbreaker. Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 07:12 PM (mD/uy)
Thing is, shot placement is king and a slight loss of horsepower is more than offset by better control and ease of shooting.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:13 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 02, 2022 07:13 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:13 PM (0IeYL)
It should be big enough that one's spouse never notices the addition or subtraction of 2 pieces.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:13 PM (a3Q+t)
I've passed a few military shotgun buys over the years - can't recall if Model 12, or 97.
There are Norinco knock-offs (of the 97 or 12? again can't remember) that are apparently OK, and of course cheaper. Guys who want to shoot "heavy metal" (WWII) in 3-gun matches used to seek them out. That bayonet indeed adds a dramatic look. Kind of like Mosin-Nagants with their bayonets attached. Very long pig-stickers, indeed.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:14 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 02, 2022 07:14 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 07:14 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 02, 2022 07:14 PM (AJNay)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:15 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 07:15 PM (NacE+)
Bravo
Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2022 07:09 PM (2JoB
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It was fun doing the book thread today for a change!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:15 PM (0IeYL)
It should be big enough that one's spouse never notices the addition or subtraction of 2 pieces.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:13 PM (a3Q+t)
I am wondering where to put another safe.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 07:16 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:13 PM (0IeYL)
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That makes for superb accuracy. In .32 it would be like a .22 with that frame.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:16 PM (llXky)
When I go to the indoor range I try to rent other guns just to get a feel for them.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:16 PM (mcfjc)
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Buying Sigs can get out of control. It can get out of control and you will be lucky to live through it.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:12 PM (kHv79)
(Verifies range to steel target. One ping only.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 02, 2022 07:16 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
Oh yeah. Still do. Now let me see, where'd I lay that Model 590 Special Purpose?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 07:17 PM (mD/uy)
The Germans in WW 1 were very upset at the Marines for using shotguns. They claimed it was because our people couldn't shoot well.
After having a few trenches cleared by them the Germans threatened to execute any American taken prisoner with one. The US Secretary of State at the time informed the Germans that if they did there would be, "Reprisals".
The Krauts believed him.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 07:17 PM (NgPv+)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 02, 2022 07:17 PM (ybIRR)
And if that book's price is annoying, try getting a copy of the sole biography of Marshal Rokossovsky (English or Russian).
Speaking of books, thanks to a Moronic reco last week I think, I became aware of the Browning book Weasel received, and fortunately it's in the local public library.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:17 PM (OTzUX)
When I go to the indoor range I try to rent other guns just to get a feel for them.
Posted by: S
you have to find something to use when you are in a free state
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:18 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:18 PM (0IeYL)
The Germans in WW 1 were very upset at the Marines for using shotguns. They claimed it was because our people couldn't shoot well.
After having a few trenches cleared by them the Germans threatened to execute any American taken prisoner with one. The US Secretary of State at the time informed the Germans that if they did there would be, "Reprisals".
The Krauts believed him.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 07:17 PM (NgPv+)
"TEUFEL HUNDEN!!!!!!!!"
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 02, 2022 07:18 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2022 07:18 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 07:18 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:19 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: JT at January 02, 2022 07:19 PM (arJlL)
After having a few trenches cleared by them the Germans threatened to execute any American taken prisoner with one. The US Secretary of State at the time informed the Germans that if they did there would be, "Reprisals".
The Krauts believed him.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 07:17 PM (NgPv+)
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Shotguns were hardly unknown in Europe, but were regarded as purely aristocratic items. Some British units had shotguns, but used them to down enemy carrier pigeons.
The German outrage was entirely class-based.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:19 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2022 07:20 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 07:20 PM (VEeVy)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:21 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:21 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 02, 2022 07:21 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Fool Otto at January 02, 2022 07:21 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 07:16 PM
How would you like this guys collection? To celebrate the New Year he took a shot with almost every gun in his collection. Took almost an hour.
https://tinyurl.com/ycktmf66
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:21 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Diogenes
I have heard this, not from your brother, and it is surprising that it was food in the heavy bush.
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:21 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:22 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:23 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:23 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 07:20 PM
Maybe Weasel could dedicate the shoe portion to an AtC-curated selection of stompy boots. Judiciously advertised, that could drive
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:23 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 02, 2022 07:21 PM (Y+l9t)
Not a thing wrong with that at all. So long as it is still functional.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 02, 2022 07:24 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:18 PM
I think one of my first purchases when I reside in a free state will be non-neutered magazines for my Sig. NO MORE 10 ROUND MAGS!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:24 PM (mcfjc)
Nice Sig Weasel! Nice Jungle Carbine Butch!
The cake is that trench gun....Ed L. what a find!
Last one I saw was in Panama City some years ago and was for sale for over 2 grand. Rare as hen's teeth.
There is one on GunChoker with all the papers and all correct for over 20 grand.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2022 07:24 PM (R/m4+)
First as context, I am very pro 2A, have a variety of rifles, pistolo, shoot regularly etc.
I'm also fortunate enough to have property of several acres, same upstate area.Generally rural area, but relatively close to (1/4 mile) the center of the small hamlet. It backs into some large woods as well, as do the other houses on that side of the road. Nearest (house) neighbors to the left and right are several hundred feet away. Had it going on 2 yrs now.
I get along well with all neighbors I've met. Except I haven't met directly my one neighbor to one side, across the creek. Apparently its an old couple with an adult son.
Lately on weekends I hear pow-pow-pow etc. in rapid succession from fairly close to the house. Clearly a centerfire semi auto. Maybe "legal" (more than 500' from our house) but very audible inside the house. Scares the crap out of our dogs, who now refuse to go outside during and for considerable time after. Really cramping the doggo interactions/enjoyment. IMO the property isn't really "range" suitable without destroying everyones' peace. Broach the issue?
Posted by: Zek at January 02, 2022 07:24 PM (8lTQz)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 07:20 PM (VEeVy)
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Nah - ''twas just a great audience!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:24 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:21 PM (mcfjc)
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No. I can handle Demolition Ranch in small quantities, but I don't respect his collection at all. Too much bling and bombast.
Guy probably doesn't own a single weapon in 9mm Largo or 9mm Steyr.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:24 PM (llXky)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:25 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: JT at January 02, 2022 07:25 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:26 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:25 PM (JE6lG)
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Have you considered a revolver?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:26 PM (llXky)
Posted by: S
you have to get something smaller than a 226, you are not going to want to carry that around.
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:26 PM (K3ZCc)
Civil War Cannon: Why waste all that time shooting a bunch of little tiny bullets when you can shoot one big bullet the size of a coconut? This is a great option for the gentleman connoisseur of fine-aged weaponry.
Perfect for: Those with mutton-chop facial hair and a love for exploding things
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 07:27 PM (mbFEM)
Rhomboid, the one thing the Norinco's don't have is the slamfire capability of the originals. I think that's the biggest shortfall of the copies. My old SDARNG unit still had some old Winchester Model 12 trench guns when I was there in the mid-90s. We dragged them out for civil defense training and took them to the range to shoot w/ fixed bayonets. You had to make sure your firing stance was really good, because that recoil would knock you a step back if you weren't prepared. The old timers said they brought the Model 12s along for Desert Storm when the unit deployed to the sandbox, which may mean that those Model 12s were some of the last ones to be carried into action by GIs.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 07:27 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 07:27 PM (VEeVy)
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 07:27 PM (mbFEM)
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The riff on Glocks was my favorite.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:28 PM (llXky)
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 02, 2022 07:28 PM (lxEMi)
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:28 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: confederatefifth
More than a few guys have a full-size, service-type pistol as their EDC - especially during the winter.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 07:28 PM (mD/uy)
Civil War Cannon: Why waste all that time shooting a bunch of little tiny bullets when you can shoot one big bullet the size of a coconut? This is a great option for the gentleman connoisseur of fine-aged weaponry.
grape
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:29 PM (K3ZCc)
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Hi Zek! That's a tough one. Maybe float it into a conversation after you've met them and established good terms? In that light, your neighbors may be willing to do something to mitigate the sound somehow.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:29 PM (0IeYL)
Already got a SiG 220. This is a former LEO sidearm. Apparently seen action. It will, in all honesty... shoot itself.
Accurately.
What's next? Keep it under a grand please.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2022 07:29 PM (BFigT)
How would you like this guys collection? To celebrate the New Year he took a shot with almost every gun in his collection. Took almost an hour.
https://tinyurl.com/ycktmf66
That's a lot of stuff
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 07:30 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: Zek at January 02, 2022 07:24 PM (8lTQz)
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Hard to complain unless they are doing it a 6 am on Sunday morning.
I'd think about getting the dogs used to it. I don't have dogs, so I have no idea how hard that is.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:31 PM (llXky)
Obviously written by an idiot who has only seen them in games, movies or on TV. Has never handled or been taught about firearms and is in general a common dipshit.
Worth a watch especially if you enjoy gobbledy gook.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 07:31 PM (NgPv+)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 02, 2022 07:31 PM (AJNay)
I don't think I'd pull to protect a stranger. I'd use my pepper spray. But I don't think I'd put myself in the legal position of defending myself for a stranger. Hopefully I don't wait too long.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 07:31 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:29 PM (K3ZCc)
The term of art is "A whiff of the grape!"
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 07:31 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:26 PM
Very true. Should see if the range has pistols like the P365 and such.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:32 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: T
is there something more specific than "more than a few?"
he is thinking of moving to a hot state and carryyig year round, nobody is carrying a 226 around year round in a hot state.
besides, what would be the reasn? more rounds? more weight, bigger frame to show?
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:32 PM (K3ZCc)
Just to mention a few online sources, there's the obvious big old names like JR and Thompson. I've had good luck with Cigar.com, and Famous Smokes, too.
One amusing smaller one is CigarsDaily out of Phoenix, the co-owner is a super nova of positive energy, his videos can be pretty entertaining. I've even listened to some of his interviews with cigar industry people, learned some things.
Oh - and of the whole Nub line, the Maduro was by far my favorite. Personal taste, and/or conditioning of the Nubs I've smoked (some might have been dry), not sure. There's a Nub Sumatra I want to try, that's the most uncommon one.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:32 PM (OTzUX)
AHL, yes, my PP (notK) in .32 is an outstanding pistol, tack-driver accurate, and totally controllable in recoil. Mrs likes it too.
fortunate enough to score some of the 73 gr fmj fiocchi loads for it last year, they got good word-of-mouth, & they function real well.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:33 PM (JE6lG)
A sword with a shotgun on it always means business.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 07:33 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at January 02, 2022 07:33 PM (5YmYl)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:19 PM (llXky)
Screw 'em! Their gas killed thousands.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 07:34 PM (axyOa)
Interesting M1917 bayonet trivia:
In 1966 procurement orders were let for brand new production M1917 bayonets. The contracts were issued to General Cutlery of Fremont, Ohio and Canadian Arsenals Ltd., the old Long Branch Arsenal of Quebec, Canada. Stockpiles had finally run out, and new Winchester 1200 trench shotguns were being issued. These were used in limited quantities during the Vietnam War.
It was not until towards the end of the Vietnam war that new Military shotguns were designed to use the newer knife bayonets. Such as the Stevens Model 77E with the M5 Bayonet, or the United States Marine Corps "Model 870 Mark 1" shotgun with the M7 bayonet.
M1917 bayonets were still in used by the US Army as late as the early 2000s for use with the M1200 shotgun.
Posted by: Joe B. from Scranton, Delaware or some coal mine up that way at January 02, 2022 07:34 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: confederatefifth "
I have a modded p229 which is my favorite carry gun.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 02, 2022 07:34 PM (AJNay)
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Yup. I'd like to support little guys Whenever I am able.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:34 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 07:31 PM (NgPv+)
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These guys really think that if they shut down firearms channels, no one will look at the millions of subscribers those channels have and think "Gosh, that's a lucrative market there. Bet I can throw some servers together..."
They are trying really hard to give Rumble a crap ton of business, aren't they?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:35 PM (llXky)
g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 02, 2022 07:35 PM (DUIap)
Posted by: RI Red - kHeos at January 02, 2022 07:35 PM (iGlN3)
This is why a cheap 12ga pump is often the first stop for someone lacking a long arm, but also just a stepping stone. Sure, they end fights - up until the fight is a certain size. They don't have the legs to fight very long in regards to ammo carried, household logistics (newer samples of both the 870 and 500 will shoot themselves to pieces with moderately high round counts), and the ability to stay in a fight without reloading drills most users fumble.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at January 02, 2022 07:35 PM (oXIiU)
Posted by: Gref at January 02, 2022 07:35 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:35 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2022 07:36 PM (eA1RV)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:36 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:32 PM (K3ZCc)
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I have a full-sized carry rig for when I deem it appropriate.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:36 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 02, 2022 07:36 PM (AJNay)
Evening Nurse, as Andrew Branca says "Practice so you are hard to kill, know the law so you are hard to prosecute" or something along those lines.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:37 PM (mcfjc)
Already got a SiG 220. This is a former LEO sidearm. Apparently seen action. It will, in all honesty... shoot itself.
Accurately.
What's next? Keep it under a grand please.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2022 07:29 PM (BFigT)
FNX45 Tac. A monster but great for winter carry.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 07:38 PM (0OP+5)
I think getting to know them before broaching anything like a complaint is wise. They (or their son) really may be a bit "out there" though. New Years we were treated to an extended, professional grade fireworks show (hours after we'd gone to bed)....
Posted by: Zek at January 02, 2022 07:38 PM (8lTQz)
besides, what would be the reasn? more rounds? more weight, bigger frame to show?
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:32 PM (K3ZCc)"
6-7 rounds in a small wheelgun or single stack pocket pistol will solve most CCW problems, but when you hit the wall in # of bad guys and distances, you hit it hard. They're not comparable to a full size-ish pistol with 15-20 rounds on tap and a few spares.
But most people presented with that quandry should really be somewhere else instead, carrying the smaller pistol. If 7 rounds won't cut it I'm probably not going.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at January 02, 2022 07:38 PM (oXIiU)
May you aim always be straight and true and your clip always be full
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 07:39 PM (VEeVy)
Hello fellow gun folks!!!
I am being told I am spam today, and after 4 re writes, I am giving up.
Happy New Year to all.
Posted by: jesse in dc at January 02, 2022 07:39 PM (kTRt4)
Posted by: Ladyl at January 02, 2022 07:39 PM (+4oV5)
I recall a Norinco on sale up in LA for some moderate price a few years ago, but haven't monitored local/regional private sale boards for some time now.
Oh - one kinda related thing. I came *this* close to getting another military shotgun (had the Ordnance bomb, I think), WWII, full-length barrel - was used in first stage of anti-aircraft gunner training. Guys would be in the back of a moving truck, and shoot at - well, not sure, I think clay birds thrown behind the truck as they moved. This was a private sale here, about 8-9 years ago. And separately, previously, I'd talked to a WWII vet who'd done exactly this kind of training down at the Imperial Beach base that's now (I think) a Coast Guard or reserve helicopter base, right near the border.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (OTzUX)
I'm in the market for a full sized .45
Already got a SiG 220. This is a former LEO sidearm. Apparently seen action. It will, in all honesty... shoot itself.
Accurately.
What's next? Keep it under a grand please.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2022 07:29 PM
Rock Island Armory 1911. Youo can get a plain jane "GI" model for under $500 or go fancy schmancy for $800-900
solid & smooth right out of the box
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (DUIap)
I've mentioned on the ONT last night about certain twitter feeds disappearing. The ones with youtube sites have those still up but the twats have apparently banned several good people. It's pissing me off.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (NgPv+)
Of course, as I write this, the forecast is suggesting the most snow we've had for two years. (Might be time to wipe down the guns again.)
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (7EjX1)
Will be looking at something much smaller.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (mcfjc)
Hello fellow gun folks!!!
I am being told I am spam today, and after 4 re writes, I am giving up.
Happy New Year to all.
Posted by: jesse in dc at January 02, 2022 07:39 PM (kTRt4)
Try knocking out any line spaces and such.
Seems to work.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 07:31 PM
So, the rumors, speculation, and scuttlebutt are true - the 'ettes really are secretly planning a little Folies Begere for this year's TxMoMe.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:36 PM (JE6lG)
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Take a careful look at Charter Arms revolvers. The ones I see in stores are .38s, but if she likes the feel and weight, you can get them in .32 H&R Magnum and feed them .32 Long ammo, which is very mild and easy to shoot.
And just to be clear - you're not getting her something strange, it is the *exact same frame* just with a slightly small bore diameter and room for six rather than five shots in the cylinder.
I did a review on the Undercoverette not long ago on this very thread. One of my favorite new production pistols.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:41 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:41 PM (0IeYL)
Joe Biden strikes again!!!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 02, 2022 07:42 PM (7bRMQ)
But the problem is they're telling literally everyone on the customer list to contact their local ATF office to "surrender your illegal silencers", when virtually nobody bought anything illegal and most just bought things like mounts, thread adapters, and the like. Apparently they've done similar things with distillery supplier customer lists for years.
Seriously, fuck these people. You'd think they could leave us alone and go back to running guns to cartels and gangs.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at January 02, 2022 07:42 PM (oXIiU)
solid & smooth right out of the box
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (DUIap)
Concur. Right price for a nice 1911. Solid shooter.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2022 07:43 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 02, 2022 07:43 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (a3Q+t)
Rumor has it there has been a run on shivs too. Be careful if you try copping a feel.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 07:43 PM (axyOa)
I have a Kimber with rosewood grips that I think is gorgeous. One of my nieces liked it so much, she went to order one and found herself a damn purple one! I beg your pardon...amethyst.
Can't decide if I love it or hate it, but it definitely has a target audience!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 02, 2022 07:43 PM (l94/7)
Posted by: F
that is fine, and it was addressed in the rest of my comment
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:43 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:44 PM (0IeYL)
Puzzled by this, have never heard that before. My 500 does fine in tac shotgun matches, round counts about 120-140.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:44 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 07:44 PM (mbFEM)
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (NgPv+)
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Twitter is trying to wreck itself. What business model is based on getting rid of half of your users? Do they think those people will just sit at home silently?
Let it happen and enjoy the spectacle.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:44 PM (llXky)
Weasel, great read so far. I'm sure you are going to enjoy it.
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 07:45 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:45 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 07:27 PM
+1
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:45 PM (a3Q+t)
Let it happen and enjoy the spectacle.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:44 PM (llXky)
They think they're winning.
Posted by: golfman at January 02, 2022 07:46 PM (h8g83)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2022 07:46 PM (BFigT)
Weasel, great read so far. I'm sure you are going to enjoy it.
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 07:45 PM (7EjX1)
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Great! The forecast here is now 7-11 inches, btw.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:46 PM (0IeYL)
solid & smooth right out of the box
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (DUIap)
Concur. Right price for a nice 1911. Solid shooter.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
I have one and can shoot it pretty well. Nice pistol.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 07:47 PM (U2p+3)
Let it happen and enjoy the spectacle.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:44 PM (llXky)
Twitter is poison anyway, and my dream is that one day someone or some org will put out a tweet...that no one will read because people start to understand that Twitter is poison.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 02, 2022 07:47 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 07:47 PM (7EjX1)
I hope so. The tech companies can DIAF as soon as possible.
They seem to be just as delusional as the basement dwelling trolls who make up their viewers. A few people start a twit storm and companies panic. I miss having adults in charge.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 07:48 PM (NgPv+)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:44 PM (llXky)
They think they're winning.
Posted by: golfman at January 02, 2022 07:46 PM (h8g83)
No it's actually a simple business decision. They are willing to take the hit here in America, to open up other markets where the Government's do not want Free Speech.
Thus, they will get rid of the 'right' here, to please their ChiComm, Indian, and Moslem customers... who number in the Billions, vice 100 Million Americans on the Right.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 02, 2022 07:49 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 07:49 PM (7EjX1)
he is supposedly in the military in some sort of sere job but they are giving him permissin to do his vids.
the vids have very high productin quality and are kind of funny.
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:49 PM (K3ZCc)
I'm really trying to be a Sig fan, but I haven't been all that impressed. For whatever reason, they just aren't that comfortable in my hand. Or I'm just a retard.
Yeah. That's prolly it. Nevermind.
Thanks for the thread, weasel.
And 700+ on the book thread! Whoot!
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 07:49 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: J
wth he hit everything but the center.
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:50 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: golfman at January 02, 2022 07:46 PM (h8g83)
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Yeah, they put out "trial balloons" and get 98 percent positive response only to find out that Twitter isn't the real world. I'm find with them creating a fantasy land and then trying to run real-world ops based on what it tells them.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:50 PM (llXky)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 07:47 PM (U2p+3)
"Well?"
if you havent seen her shoot, trust me, she's being very modest.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 07:50 PM (axyOa)
LadyL, thanks, but it truly is the equipment at 50 yds.
this .22 stuff is fun, but you need top shelf (Ha, Ace!) ammo.
Posted by: RI Red - kHeos at January 02, 2022 07:50 PM (iGlN3)
Posted by: Diogenes
If you do, you'd better have been asked to!
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 07:50 PM (mD/uy)
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Thanks! That surprised me too. Lots of people need a Sunday hobby!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:50 PM (0IeYL)
The renewal of my NYC handgun license and NYC rifle permit.
Come August (or just before) I have to start the process of renewing these.
This should be interesting in the current social/political climate.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:51 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 07:27 PM
+1
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:45 PM (a3Q+t)
Don't forget Tony Lama.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 07:51 PM (0OP+5)
And the 45 Colt, 45ACP, and 30 carbine ammo cans are nearly empty, and crying out to be fed by the reloading bench. Fortunately have plenty of components, have just been lazy.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:51 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 02, 2022 07:49 PM (oHd/0)
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LOL, no India is not amused by Twitter and is already taking action against it. The Chicoms will simply shut it down, so they're weaving their own noose.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:51 PM (llXky)
I'm really trying to be a Sig fan, but I haven't been all that impressed. For whatever reason, they just aren't that comfortable in my hand. Or I'm just a retard.
Yeah. That's prolly it. Nevermind.
you might be the first to say that.
the thing that sig has over glock out of the box is everybody says the grip is great, whereas the glock has a 2x4 to squeeze
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:52 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:45 PM (JE6lG)
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Oh, she's going for variety.
Lucky man.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:52 PM (llXky)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:52 PM (JE6lG)
He can sort ~18/min with his setup.
He said he'd also tried sorting by cartridge weight, but found that not to be worth the effort.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 07:53 PM (a3Q+t)
I hope you are thinking of reloading your own .22 ammo. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:53 PM (mcfjc)
I will say that the SEH girl is perfect for the corset carry and that perhaps other, err, shapes, would not find it quite as effective.
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 07:53 PM (mbFEM)
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 07:53 PM (mbFEM)
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I can conceal howitzer and no one would know.
Posted by: "Tank" Abrams at January 02, 2022 07:54 PM (llXky)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 07:54 PM (OTzUX)
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The primer stuff is in the rim of a .22 cartridge so that makes sense. Some of my competition buddies weight sort primers.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:54 PM (0IeYL)
Damn, I can be dense.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 07:55 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: "Tank" Abr
that hard bit is remembering which fold it is in, and the rust.
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:55 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:55 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: free tibet at January 02, 2022 07:55 PM (CL76w)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 07:55 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:56 PM (K3ZCc)
Rhomboid, the military purchased large numbers of full length (30" barrel) shotguns for aerial gunnery training. I saw a semi-auto model (Browning Auto-5 type?) equipped w/ spade grips and large concentric sights for sale at a gun show. Supposedly it was set in the ring mount of a 2 1/2 ton truck driven at speed past a bunch of clay pigeon launchers for turret gunner training. Interesting artifact, but it looked impractical to store, let alone take to the range.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 07:56 PM (NacE+)
Yo. They seem... "nice." And affordable for "small batch" cigars.
BOTL
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2022 07:56 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 07:57 PM (0OP+5)
For me, it was instant. The grip was entirely natural.
Even when I was a punk newbie, I shot better with the P226 than anything else.
Years later, guess what? I STILL shoot better with the P226 than anything else. Because it is a work of genius.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:57 PM (llXky)
Do need to get her in a class as is typical she will take instruction better from someone anyone other than me. And it wouldn't hurt if it comes from one trained to teach.
Already signed up for private outdoor club starting in July. They have classes for women (membership not required).
The store attached to the indoor range had pallet loads of name brand ARs for $1k each and common ammo by the case at fair enough prices. All other ammo was on order$2 / round and limited section.
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 02, 2022 07:57 PM (f8LeC)
one of the few smart decisions I've made in my life.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 07:57 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: Al Dente at January 02, 2022 07:57 PM (JPtHE)
Hadn't thought of that shotgun story for a while.
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 07:58 PM (7EjX1)
NOT a retard. I can't find anything I like, either.
I mean, I guess we could both be retards, and I would be honored to be in any class with you, but, the fact is, I just personally prefer long guns.
I seldom fire my Kimber, but I like it better than the Taurus, multiple GLOCKs, Sigs and Rugers I have tried.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 02, 2022 07:58 PM (l94/7)
He basically said everyone should be jabbed with the mRNA shots, we don't need a traditional vaccine.
And then he got himself under control and said "oh they haven't applied to be offered in the US". It was...perplexing.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 02, 2022 08:00 PM (ESjRY)
Shot the SIL's old AR. And had a "poofer" in the first 10 rounds with some of his older questionable re-loads. Glad it was me and not him. And good reminder to me too. One of the range-masters had a long enough rod handy and he knocked the bullet out.
First time at the range with this rifle and it shot well. Basic M&P and a nice gun to shoot.
Got two quick mags of 9mm in as well. Working on fire-control this week. Always something to work on...
Posted by: secondcitylurker at January 02, 2022 08:00 PM (MEbkQ)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 07:54 PM
He said that (the primer stuff) was likely part of it, but he really seemed to think that the headspacing variance was more significant.
And he's shooting a 10/22. (Ok, like most, it *maybe* has a Ruger receiver, but everything else is replaced, particularly the barrel.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:01 PM (a3Q+t)
I'll eventually get one, but it will have to be something oddball, like an Astra clone.
People rave about Lugers, but I didn't care for the one I had and got rid of it. Looks cool, didn't feel good in the hand, though. A Husqvarna M40, on the other hand? Now that's a sweetheart.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:01 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 02, 2022 08:01 PM (l94/7)
I have always wanted a 97, or a 12. The gun fairy has so far failed to deliver. Beautiful examples.
I have been given 80 rounds on Sig made 77 grain 223 match ammo made with plastic cases. Has anyone seen these, or shot any?
Posted by: jesse in dc at January 02, 2022 08:01 PM (kTRt4)
One was a really nice Browning with a gold plated trigger. Kind of a shame what the clamp on the robot arm did to its wood stock.
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 08:01 PM (mbFEM)
I mean, I guess we could both be retards, and I would be honored to be in any class with you, but, the fact is, I just personally prefer long guns.
I seldom fire my Kimber, but I like it better than the Taurus, multiple GLOCKs, Sigs and Rugers I have tried.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
Thanks, Tammy al-Thor,
My G 42 fits my hand better. And I know some of the guys HATE glocks, but whatever. Shoot what works for you.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:02 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 02, 2022 08:02 PM (YglAn)
Shelves are stocked. Gun shops, pawn shops, etc.
Lost out on a nice SAR-8 the other day. Post ban but still Greek made EBO.
The search continues...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (mmU7u)
solid & smooth right out of the box
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 02, 2022 07:40 PM (DUIap)
I bit the bullet and bought a Colt. Shoots better than I do. Purely sentimental reasons. It is beautiful.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (AmoqO)
I seldom fire my Kimber, but I like it better than the Taurus, multiple GLOCKs, Sigs and Rugers I have tried.
Posted by: T
this is weird I thought you had opposabl digits.
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Agitator at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (KzbMc)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (VEeVy)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (ESjRY)
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Good to hear regarding ammo. I've been meaning to ask you all about availability.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:04 PM (0IeYL)
It is by far, one of the most smoothest shooting handguns I have. I tend to believe that's because of it's previous use.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2022 08:04 PM (BFigT)
Good to know. Gonna start buying one box of ammo a month again. Sadly I have three different calibers so i gotta pick and choose.
This Biden economy is awesome
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 02, 2022 08:04 PM (YglAn)
I've had people tell me that 870s produced in the years just prior to Remington's Chapter 11 breakup and sale had a lot of QC related problems. Never heard anything like that on the Mossbergs, though. In fact, I think they still have some DOD and other .gov contracts for 500/590 series guns.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:04 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 08:05 PM (7EjX1)
Years later, guess what? I STILL shoot better with the P226 than anything else. Because it is a work of genius.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:57 PM (llXky)
My Tacops variant fits in my hand like a glove and is a joy to shoot.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 02, 2022 08:05 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 02, 2022 07:57 PM (f8LeC)
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Look at some .32s. Not a ton of current production, but you can get some great deals online for very nice surplus stuff.
Weasel's SIG at the top of the post, for example. FEG made a near-twin called the PA-63 which comes in .32 ACP (sometimes called the AP-66, it's complicated) and those are just a pleasure to shoot. Aluminum frame, easy to use, comfy in the hand, modest recoil.
Americans hate .32 ACP for some odd reason but it is arguably the best "pocket pistol" caliber out there. In a small frame, .380 can just be too snappy for some people (not for me, but I'm an oddball anyway). And .32 revolvers are comfy as well.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:06 PM (llXky)
Posted by: free tibe
I have a pair of Tecovas ropers which I love. I am very hard to fit as I have a very high instep.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:06 PM (mD/uy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdaW934mMC0
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:07 PM (IC0n9)
Posted by: nurse ratched"
" ... if it was written with a needle in the bottom corner of the eye it would serve as lesson to everyone who are capable of educating themselves."
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 08:07 PM (JE6lG)
FWIW, I prefer the FBI Monitor, basically a BAR with a pistol grip. Looks slightly more ergonomic to use.
Posted by: butch at January 02, 2022 08:07 PM (cHvOo)
JTB, I'm pleasantly surprised with .22 precision shooting. A lot quieter, a bit cheaper, and just as much fun as big calibers.
Posted by: RI Red - kHeos at January 02, 2022 08:07 PM (iGlN3)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 07:55 PM
I'm working on something to show y'all this year. It *won't* be the equivalent of a Les Baer, but hopefully it will generate a little reaction.
I'd purely love to see you shoot one of Les Baer's 1.5" @ 50 yds. 1911s. Those are the stuff 1911 dreams are made of.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:07 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (ESjRYM
I think that's the vax developed by two Houston doctors.
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:08 PM (mmU7u)
Gather the rotten okra and get ready to throw it at me.
I too like the classic M1911. And I really want one. But a reasonable and economic option is the Hi-Point JHP .45. Ugly? Sure. Accurate? Yup. Easy to shoot? Yup. Effective? Yup. And reliable.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:09 PM (axyOa)
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That made me laugh Weasel. Just the other night I said to Jules...2022, WTF? this should be the Jetson's era, where are the flying cars? Tho when I go upstairs I'll have to empty the Neeto, automatic vacuum cleaner. Part way there I guess.
Posted by: Farmer at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (55Qr6)
This Biden economy is awesome
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 02, 2022 08:04 PM (YglAn)
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*spit take*
Uh, yeah. Three calibers. That's rough.
*Does web search for 9mm Largo*
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (llXky)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 08:03 PM (VEeVy)
I have a pair Tony Lama ostrich subdued quill black with blue and grey stitching. Church boots.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (gBkq4)
Posted by: Agitator at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (KzbMc)
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 02, 2022 08:11 PM (0OmEj)
Oh shit, we just created the gun and boot thread!
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 08:11 PM (VEeVy)
Posted by: butch at January 02, 2022 08:11 PM (cHvOo)
Posted by: Agitator at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (KzbMc)
Good news!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 08:11 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (OTzUX)
Has anyone tried the HVC Pan Caliente line? It's a nice mid-range smoke Nicaraguan that comes in around $7. The double corona has been really popular among the Sunday range shooters. I've ordered mostly from SmallBatchCigar (no relationship) and found the service excellent.
Posted by: secondcitylurker at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (MEbkQ)
Posted by: dartist at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (+ya+t)
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Welcome to the Gun Thread! Maybe look at Vortex or Nikon? I typically recommend Nightforce optics, but they aren't inexpensive.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: butch at January 02, 2022 08:11 PM (cHvOo)
Snort!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 02, 2022 08:05 PM (CdZ4i)
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I did a double-take on that, thought it was a "tacos variant."
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:13 PM (llXky)
Don't forget the HK Mark 23, aka the "crew served pistol." It's huge, but since the frame is plastic, weight isn't that bad. It survived the SOCOM torture test of 30,000 plus rounds, which included it being buried in sand, dunked in seawater, and frozen in ice. I don't think any other pistol (not just .45s) has gone through that much testing.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:13 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (0IeYL)
Bought a Walther CCP chambered in .380 during the summer of love. Bought it sight unseen and ended getting lucky because I loved it.
Bought a Hi-Point rifle in .45 and it is a damn fine rifle and I was gifted a 9mm
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (YglAn)
This is a robbery! Everyone on the floo...
Wait, why do you all have guns?
*drops gun, sticks em up*
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (4fSQf)
380 that looks a lot like it
Posted by: Hatari
I've had two of those and could not get either to run with any confidence.
Posted by: Agitator at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (KzbMc)
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (IC0n9)
Posted by: Eromero
That's hot.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (U2p+3)
Let it happen and enjoy the spectacle.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 07:44 PM (llXky)
They think they're winning.
Posted by: golfman at January 02, 2022 07:46 PM
In their mind they are winning. They think they are like the French resistance in WWII and striking a blow for freedom when they ban a conservative.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
NOBODY MOVE!! I'VE GOT THE TACOS AND I KNOW HOW TO USE THEM!!
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (0OP+5)
I had a gray pair. I lost one of them on I-84 going to Ridgefield , CT . Changed out of them after work, put them on the roof of the car , got distracted. You can figure out the rest of the story. Still pissed 33 years later.
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (mmU7u)
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Howdy and welcome to the Gun/Cigar Thread! Thank you!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:15 PM (0IeYL)
Guessing Hi Point is up there.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:15 PM (4fSQf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdaW934mMC0
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:16 PM (IC0n9)
How inexpensive is "inexpensive?" The Mueller APV is a good value/$. If you can stretch a bit more, consider a Leupold Freedom.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 02, 2022 08:16 PM (nfrXX)
That Tabacalera Aragon linked above sounds great. Just the basics, direct from Esteli to Miami and the consumer, inexpensive. Worth a try, will add them to my exploratory program.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:16 PM (OTzUX)
The feat involved 20 2.5"x1/4" steel discs tossed up in the air.
Remember that the BAR weighs 17 lbs., and fires from an open bolt.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:17 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (YglAn)
I have the carbine in .45. Love it.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:17 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:17 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: butch at January 02, 2022 08:11 PM (cHvOo)
Snort!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (axy
Episode of the First 48 had a guy shot and killed and determined he may have tried to shoot first but his Hi Point 9mm jammed.
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:17 PM (mmU7u)
Still waiting ten months for my .30 cal can...
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 08:18 PM (iGlN3)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (Xrfse)
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If you think about it, that's what a carry gun is, the ultimate form of backup. You're not going to do a 'citizens arrest," the whole point is to try to get out of a bad situation.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:18 PM (llXky)
If the stars align and we are both in Corsicana in the fall, I'd love a tutorial on your rifle. You were so focused on getting it zeroed in, I didn't want to intrude, but what a sweet setup.
Whoot!
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:19 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: b
with a guy shooting a hi-point
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 08:19 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 08:20 PM (VEeVy)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:06 PM (mD/uy)
Just wait, your arches will eventually fall.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 08:20 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 02, 2022 08:20 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (YglAn)
I have the carbine in .45. Love it.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:17 PM (axyOa
I have both the 9mm and .45 carbine. I also have the .45 anvil, I mean pistol. I bought it only because it was the price of a cup of coffee and it paired with my carbine. I have to admit It is very accurate though which surprised me greatly.
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:20 PM (mmU7u)
Posted by: Eromero
That's hot.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (U2p+3)
Nurse, I wear 'em as a pallbearer too. Black hat, black suit, black boots.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:21 PM (0OP+5)
(I lived on the edge, as a dangerous felon, with "high capacity magazines" in my possession, was quite exciting)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:21 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Faded Soul of a Nameless Wanderer at January 02, 2022 08:21 PM (VmeUc)
Advantages: Lower recoil, more shots in the tube.
Disadvantages: Requires conversion piece(s) to use, loss of hitting power, currently available 1 3/4" ammo (none that I can see for sale)
If you can't get the ammo, I think that makes all of the other factors moot.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:21 PM (NacE+)
The writer is an ex-rocker living in Milwaukee, and to my mind has some of the more interesting and accurate reviews I've read. Phil willingly ages and smokes inexpensive sticks, as well as the latest and greatest. Over the years, I've never been disappointed with something he recommended. Fair warning - I tend toward full body broadleaf sticks and ones with some spice.
Posted by: secondcitylurker at January 02, 2022 08:21 PM (MEbkQ)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:06 PM (llXky)
Yup....FEG makes good stuff. Hungarian.
Their Hi Power clone is a good find if you see one out and about.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2022 08:21 PM (R/m4+)
A .380 and a .32 are good calibers.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:22 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:22 PM (0IeYL)
Can't disagree with that.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 02, 2022 08:23 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (gBkq4
Trust me (having lived through this many times). Do NOT scrimp on optics. Buy once, cry once.
You'll thank me. And Weasel. And many others.
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 08:23 PM (iGlN3)
Gunz, bookz, now cigars and boots!
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:23 PM (OTzUX)
Go. My current pair I've had for only 15. I bought them in Montana. Inexpensive Durangos, but I like them and they fit like slippers.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:23 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 08:23 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:24 PM (0IeYL)
Thank you, it would be a pleasure Nurse.
I should not have had to zero the rifle again as I had done it before going to Corsicana, but Steve had problems hitting a target so it prompted me to work on it again.
Hopefully we shall see each other again this coming October.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 08:24 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 02, 2022 08:24 PM (ZMraq)
How inexpensive is "inexpensive?" The Mueller APV is a good value/$. If you can stretch a bit more, consider a Leupold Freedom.--Oddbob at January 02, 2022 08:16 PM (nfrXX)
Well I really don't know. Can a good training model be had for under $200?
Posted by: TheOtherJay at January 02, 2022 08:25 PM (gBkq4)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:25 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM (VEeVy)
I know our own USNTakim has done some home infusions (bourbon, I think).
I'm not ready to do that yet, but possibly down the road.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM (OTzUX)
Gunz, bookz, now cigars and boots!
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:23 PM
Under the umbrella of the Ace Media Empire.
At this rate, it will soon be known as Big Ace.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:18 PM
I tried to explain this very thing to a Cop one day and he didn't get it because he is concerned with stopping a criminal and I don't need to be. He was saying a single stack 9mm was not "enough" gun and I told him it was perfect for me because I only needed to use it to get away from the bad guy. I did not need to stop him, I just need to get away from him or make him leave me alone. Either way works.
My house gun is a completely different story though.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM (bVYXr)
New Mark 23 mags (12 rounders) were $90 each at Chantilly this weekend. It's HK, what did you expect?
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM (NacE+)
Working with their support on it. This is definitely a problem.
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 08:27 PM (mbFEM)
Go. My current pair I've had for only 15. I bought them in Montana. Inexpensive Durangos, but I like them and they fit like slippers.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:23 PM (U2p+3)
Bought a pair of Tony Lamas in Arizona years ago. Damn! They looked good! Then one day it got to be too hard to bend over and take them off.
SIgh...
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:27 PM (axyOa)
I'm not ready to do that yet, but possibly down the road.
Posted by: rhomboid
The "Guns, Books, Boots, Cigars and (now)Bourbon" thread?
Is there nothing this man Weasel can't do!!
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:27 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at January 02, 2022 08:25 PM
In or out of town?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM (a3Q+t)
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Thanks Ed L. I believe it's set up already for all 3 sizes. I just thought 1 3/4 would be enough to use in the house. Finding the ammo might be a problem.
Posted by: dartist at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM (IC0n9)
been doing that for many years now, works every time.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM (JE6lG)
Working with their support on it. This is definitely a problem.
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 08:27 PM (mbFEM)
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Well that's a problemo! Let us know what happens!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM (0IeYL)
Night all!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 08:29 PM (mcfjc)
Then one day it got to be too hard to bend over and take them off.
SIgh...
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:27 PM
the boot jack is your friend
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 02, 2022 08:29 PM (DUIap)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM
We did that with our boots in the Army at boot camp. Got some blisters at first but those boots felt like they were molded to your feet.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 02, 2022 08:29 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS)
Shotgun by the door
Walther PPQ with extra mags by my bed.
I'm not going to be victimized in my own home.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:29 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Bert G at January 02, 2022 08:29 PM (yEtBQ)
And Boveda packs *can* be recharged, easily. I prefer the shot glass of distilled in an airtight container approach, not as messy as the submersion method.
I kinda get a reloading vibe as I scheme new ways to save a buck with the cigar thing. Same McGyver ethic, same odd satisfaction.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:30 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:30 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:30 PM (0IeYL)
It's due to where you live, correct? Gotta be maddening as hell.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 02, 2022 08:30 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM (bVYXr)
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Hopper-fed, amirite?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:31 PM (llXky)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:31 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:30 PM (a3Q+t)
I buy my jeans where I buy my ammo so sort of on topic.
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:31 PM (mmU7u)
What are the most comfy boots? Who makes em?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM
I've worn Justins as "daily drivers" all my adult life and find them very comfortable
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 02, 2022 08:32 PM (DUIap)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:30 PM (a3Q+t)
Only if you include stabby accessories.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:32 PM (axyOa)
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Glad to hear it, Bert G! I was spraying it on guns today!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:32 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:31 PM (mmU7u
Ron Swanson?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:32 PM (4fSQf)
The Mueller is < $200. I won't disagree with the commenter above who said "buy once, cry once" but I also realize that sometimes that just isn't an option. I have a Mueller and while I don't brag about it, I don't hate it either.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 02, 2022 08:32 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:31 PM
What about a claymore? And I am not talking about the sword. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 08:32 PM (mcfjc)
Pretty sure you'll enjoy Kohnhed, aka Katman. He has a fabulous pallet and loves finding sleeper sticks, the inexpensive ones that have been over-looked. He's also ruthlessly honest. If the $30 flavor of the month is a one-note, he'll say so pretty bluntly. Nearly always get a chuckle or two out of the reviews.
Posted by: secondcitylurker at January 02, 2022 08:33 PM (MEbkQ)
Is that common for good shooters? Or is it a no-no?
Honest question for me to take back to the range and work on, either way.
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 08:33 PM (zS6T2)
New Mark 23 mags (12 rounders) were $90 each at Chantilly this weekend. It's HK, what did you expect?
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:26 PM (NacE+)
Only have one HK a P30FS 9mm, came with 3 mags and got 4 more FREE with proof of purchase. This was when Gander was going toes up.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:33 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM (IC0n9)
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Some black powder weapons are not legally considered to be firearms.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:33 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 02, 2022 08:33 PM (Xrfse)
I told the SEAL friend what I really wanted was some det-cord, but he said he'd checked around down in Coronado and they were fresh out. He might have been messing with me.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:34 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:32 PM (axyOa)
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We can do that!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:34 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (JE6lG) at January 02, 2022 08:34 PM (JE6lG)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:34 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 08:28 PM (a3Q+t)
Range trainer. Outside. Max 200 yds maybe.
Posted by: TheOtherJay at January 02, 2022 08:34 PM (gBkq4)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:31 PM
What about a claymore? And I am not talking about the sword. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 02, 2022 08:32 PM (mcfjc
I use bouncing bettys. Good old S-Mine. Keeps the dogs from crapping in my yard.
Should work on booglers.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:35 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 02, 2022 08:36 PM (fLri9)
It's due to where you live, correct? Gotta be maddening as hell.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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I sought help through the VA for PTSD, depression, and anxiety. And am currently collecting disability compensation due to my military service?
Does it really matter what state I live in since the VA is federal, and how politicized the feds are now?
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:36 PM (IC0n9)
*swoons*
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:34 PM (U2p+3
Bought time you rewatched Justified, I'm guessing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:36 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:36 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:33 PM (0OP+5)
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That was a magical time. They put their firearms on escalating discount and they were still eligible for factory rebates (anyone remember those?).
Sweet deals to be had.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:36 PM (llXky)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 02, 2022 08:29 PM (DUIap)
So is a boot wench.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 08:37 PM (AmoqO)
Does it really matter what state I live in since the VA is federal, and how politicized the feds are now?
Posted by: SMH
I don't know the law at all. Are you permitted to buy what you'd like through a private sale?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:37 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:37 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:37 PM (4fSQf)
*swoons*
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Pretty much how my second husband snared me.
Being a once upon a time honest to goodness Texan cowboy helped.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:37 PM (IC0n9)
Bought time you rewatched Justified, I'm guessing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Already on that. Just finished season 1.
Again.
*sighs*
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 08:38 PM (U2p+3)
Just got the Charter 32 Undercoverette. Haven't shot it yet but (ammo shortage). Put the sliver grips on and she thought it too small. Will put the factory grips back on and let her see how it feels.... Then off to the press and private range that allows reloads
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 02, 2022 08:38 PM (f8LeC)
Posted by: Tonypete
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I live in Illinois, so I'm gonna guess no.
Hub has weapons though, so not too concerned at the moment, just thinking aloud.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:39 PM (IC0n9)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:33 PM (0OP+5)
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That was a magical time. They put their firearms on escalating discount and they were still eligible for factory rebates (anyone remember those?).
Sweet deals to be had.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:36 PM (llXky)
$600. I stole it.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:39 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:01 PM (llXky)
The Lahti is a really nice pistol and it has a unique hesitation lock. It uses that vertical sliding bit to slow down the slide opening, but does not stay locked like a 1911.
There are three successful hesitation locks (that I can think of), one with the Peterson designed Remington Model 51 where the bolt was held by bolt carrier similar to an FN-FAL but the bolt in recoiling cammed out of its track and released the bolt carrier and the slide for recoil , the Savage 1905 pistol where the rotating bolt was supposed to retard the slide opening, and the Lahti with that vertical sliding bit.
the mechanics of it fascinate me.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 02, 2022 08:39 PM (ZMraq)
That's probably the last "bargain" pricing you'll ever see for anything HK. Count yourself lucky w/ that.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:40 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:34 PM (0IeYL
It was a year or so ago the Weasel let me share my stabby things. Simple is my buzzword. Sharp and simple. A mini "Old Timer" my grand son gave me for daily use. A swiss army knife that I've carried in three wars. (Sharp and light) and my get serious knife is a hand made blade i had made for me when I was in Turkey. Excellent edge, good for cuttin' and pokin',.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:40 PM (axyOa)
And what you said last thread about avocados at the stand in Bonsall, back in the day - I remember after wind storms, there'd be temporary road-side stands with boxes of avos for $5 or something. Down here in the populated part of the county. That was back when avos were expensive and rare outside SoCal, before it all changed.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:40 PM (OTzUX)
The trigger pull is about 50lbs. Okay not 50 but let's say there will never be an accidental discharge.
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:41 PM (mmU7u)
I've had two of those and could not get either to run with any confidence.
Posted by: Agitator at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (Kzb
Thanks for the info. Good to know as I have looked at them.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 08:41 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 02, 2022 08:38 PM (f8LeC)
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Yeah, good luck finding .32 H&R Magnum. However, .32 S&W Long will work and it's out there. Milder round, which is nice.
You technically can use .32 ACP as well, but brand selection is very important. I had good luck with Fiocci, but YMMV and I wouldn't use it in an actual defense scenario.
I'd be comfortable with .32 S&W Long in that role, though.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:41 PM (llXky)
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 08:41 PM (iGlN3)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:37 PM (mD/uy)
What is a private sale?
Is it like a canoe related event?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (hOUT3)
SOBS!! It's a sickness that must be carefully guarded against.
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (4fSQf)
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You all send me pics and I'll post more stubby things! I just picked up a Benchmade Bushcrafter 162.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (0IeYL)
I apologize, SMH. Didn't mean to pry. I just thought it was mostly because of your blue state residency.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 02, 2022 08:43 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 02, 2022 08:43 PM (fLri9)
Is it like a canoe related event?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
A private sale is (loosely) defined as one not through a FFL holder. So, if I sell you one, for example.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:44 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 08:41 PM (iGlN3)
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Just the book! Truth be told, I'm pretty well set on gun stuff.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:44 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:37 PM (mD/uy) \
No federal red flag laws yet. VA interviewer assured me that there won't be. Passed on the PTSD claim anyway. Actually I was examined by a VA psychologist and they determined I was good to go.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 08:44 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (0IeYL
Love my Benchmade! Great stabby things.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:44 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Ithaca Model 37 at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (ELgVT)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (7EjX1)
You forgot the 1898 Krag rifle and carbine.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (AmoqO)
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You all send me pics and I'll post more stubby things! I just picked up a Benchmade Bushcrafter 162.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (0IeYL
Ahhh...just to be clear, I sent Weasel pictures of my stabby things. STABBY.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:44 PM (mD/uy)
TP: I really need to remember to use the sarc tag (/s) far more often!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (iGlN3)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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No need to apologize, hun.
Reading threads like this stirs up questions, and I do love what Weasel posts, which is why I come here.
Weasel, you are a Godsend.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:47 PM (IC0n9)
SOBS!! It's a sickness that must be carefully guarded against.
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (7EjX1)
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Mouse guns are worse, because you don't have the same problems of storage to slow you down. Get a Walther PP, and then hmmm, FN 1900 and why not an FN 1910? Oooh, Beretta 34 and of course a 35, why not? Wait, is that a Baby Nambu?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:47 PM (llXky)
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (7EjX1)
Then when you think you got one of each, the Arisakas and Carcanos come calling.
Then the Frogs show up and you can't believe they made such great rifles.
It's a madhouse, a madhouse!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2022 08:47 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (iGlN3)
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They're also useful for opening boxes and peeling oranges.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:48 PM (0IeYL)
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I really love the mini griptilian!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:46 PM (0IeYL
Those are nice! I got the Claymore last year. Heck of a spring!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:48 PM (4fSQf)
Found these that I may buy:
https://tinyurl.com/yc7nz4s8
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 08:49 PM (IC0n9)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:49 PM (0IeYL)
That could be said for just about any military surplus firearm of any kind.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:50 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 02, 2022 08:50 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 02, 2022 08:50 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 08:44 PM (mD/uy)
Not even loosely.
A private sale is between individuals. There MAY be an FFL involved. Virginia used to allow private sales completely unregulated.
Now the law requires a background check and an FFL involved for all private transfers except for close family members.
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 08:50 PM (mbFEM)
I usually order box of tacos and some perfectos, have them delivered USPS. Theyre always fresh.
BTW, I left the plans for the tomatillo sauce near the end of the last thread.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 02, 2022 08:51 PM (fLri9)
Unlike my 37 degree slush covered outdoor place.
In my next life I will make a fortune.
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (iGlN3)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at January 02, 2022 08:10 PM (gBkq4
I would plan on spending at least 150 to 200. Nice .22 scopes have adjustable parallax or are set for 50 yards. That makes rimfire scopes a bit more expensive. They also make some with hash marks set for bullet drop.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (0OmEj)
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I thought I'd lost my mini and got another one. Now I have two. The full size Grippy just seems a little too large for EDC.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (0IeYL)
Gun works, old magazine is week feeding (new magazine from Numrich works well). Extraction is weak and poor as well, more parts to be replaced. But....damn, is the action smooth. I'm out of shape for off-hand shooting, sadly. But I had a great time and look forward to getting everything clicking.
Very happy with my Christmas gift to myself.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (eeRB6)
Yeah, like thirty or forty years ago. They were HQed in San Francisco if that's a hint.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (nfrXX)
You move to CA from NV with a gun not on the "roster". You can sell it, private sale (goes through an FFL here, has for a long time I think). Or you're law enforcement - you can buy the banninated handgun new, from a dealer, in CA.
What's the "roster" based on, you ask? Oh, *safety*, of course!
So, those fast thinkers in class will already have figured out that CA's gun laws forbid sale of "unsafe" handgun models to regular people, by commercial dealers - but ALLOWS them, between private parties, or to/from law enforcement. You know, just how FAA certifications for aircraft depend on who's flying them, or how OSHA regs for safety gear depends on who's using it.
Oh, wait .....
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:53 PM (OTzUX)
How was I to know that person was scuba qualified?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 08:53 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (0IeYL)
Been there! Did you find it in your jeans, the couch cushion or under your car seat?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:53 PM (4fSQf)
G'Nite all!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 02, 2022 08:54 PM (axyOa)
Oh, wait .....
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:53 PM (OTzUX)
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Right, but none of this applies to illegal immigrants, right?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:54 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Zombie Warren Zevon at January 02, 2022 08:55 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:53 PM (4fSQf)
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On the floor of the truck. I was despondent until the new one arrived, and almost immediately found the old one, of course!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:55 PM (0IeYL)
Bill Mauldin cartoon of two GIs on KP: "I'll be darned. Did you know this can opener fits on the end of a rifle?"
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:55 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:55 PM (OTzUX)
Unlike my 37 degree slush covered outdoor place.
In my next life I will make a fortune.
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (iGlN3)
They have a cigar lounge too, complete surprise to me it was.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:56 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Zek at January 02, 2022 07:24 PM (8lTQz)
Yes. BUT, I would take over a bottle of wine or something, maybe some food if you smoke meats or bbq or something. Something to break the ice, and sit and chat. And if you can politely slide into it, ask if you can see their setup (since you've heard the shots). Chat with them about it. Maybe *ask* them about how to deal with the dogs. If their setup is not safe in that situation, maybe make some suggestions, and offer to help with improvements.
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 08:56 PM (zS6T2)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:57 PM (4fSQf)
Yeah, like thirty or forty years ago. They were HQed in San Francisco if that's a hint.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (nfrXX)
Once upon a time, when they were an American company, they made Levis in Warsaw, Virginia and employed a lot of legal American tax-paying citizens, but then...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 08:57 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 08:56 PM (zS6T2)
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Flaming bag of dog droppings on the porch. Works every time.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:57 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 08:56 PM (0OP+5)
So, win-win gift, right?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 08:58 PM (hOUT3)
Most excellent Gun Thread, as always! While I've always loved the Trench Gun, I never trusted the Norinco import, and wasn't sufficiently motivated to try to acquire an original. Betcha CZ could make a '97 I'd wanna buy, though.
Been carrying the hell out of the SIG P238 in 9mm. Mini-1911. The factory "finger groove" rubber grip sucks, and I've got new rosewood set inbound from eBay. Otherwise? Do they make a version in .32 ACP? I'd buy one such in a hearbeat. Also got some of the SeaFoam "Deep Creep". Sure de-leads a revolver barrel in a hurry! Local cigars are "El Cubano" by Manny Lopez, H.Q. is League City, TX, factory is Texas City, TX.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 02, 2022 08:58 PM (QzJWU)
sigh
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:23 PM (K3ZCc)
Not goin' there! Not gonna say nuthin'! Nu uh!
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 08:58 PM (zS6T2)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:57 PM (4fSQf)
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Not for the British. Highlanders in particular seemed to relish it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 08:58 PM (llXky)
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 08:59 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 02, 2022 08:52 PM (eeRB6)
Very nice Mark!
Imagine where that gun has been and now has a nice home where it belongs.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2022 08:59 PM (R/m4+)
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Thanks for tuning in, Diogenes. Hope you feel better. 'Nite!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:59 PM (0IeYL)
Didn't matter. Court still upheld the indefensible, comically illogical law.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:59 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: free tibet at January 02, 2022 09:00 PM (CL76w)
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 08:59 PM (7EjX1)
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Yeah, the horror part starts when you look at corrosive ammo and think "yeah, but the price is really good."
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 09:00 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:01 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:01 PM (0IeYL)
Don't know where the "2" came from, but it does appear I forgot to carry the one, and did subract the seven.
Hey, you know, there's NO MATH on this blog, right?
.. right? *shuffles off, kicks rock, ow*
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 02, 2022 09:01 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2022 08:59 PM (R/m4+)
I'd like to think it did it's part in frightening Chinese and Pakistanis
I'm going to repair and clean it up and feed lots of steel cased ammo, which is working fine so far, 60 rounds in.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 02, 2022 09:01 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:55 PM (NacE+)
I have a vintage Mauldin cartoon book I inherited from my Dad . You can tell he was there. Every page has the names and addresses of the men in Dad's Tank Platoon. They rolled across North Africa and up Italy. All dead now I'm sure.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:02 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 09:02 PM (a3Q+t)
Now the law requires a background check and an FFL involved for all private transfers except for close family members.
Posted by: blaster
Of course, you're correct. It is very much state specific - OH, in my case, being much different than VA.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 02, 2022 09:03 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 09:03 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 09:03 PM (0OP+5)
Don Hume is my preferred leather
My XD9 is so comfortable, I forget I have it on, almost.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 02, 2022 09:04 PM (eeRB6)
Yes, .22 is fun.
Posted by: RI Red - kHeos at January 02, 2022 07:35 PM (iGlN3)
Hmmm, I now want something in 20.22......
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 09:05 PM (zS6T2)
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 02, 2022 07:56 PM (K3ZCc)
A number of my AR barrels have black oxide finish and the finish seems to be a fairly abrasion resistant to normal handling and scuffing.
My Sig mk25 has the manganese phosphate finish on the barrel and a number of the internal parts. It apparently is very corrosion resistant, but does not seem to wear as well
Posted by: ironmoron at January 02, 2022 09:05 PM (4Ux4F)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 09:05 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:06 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: blaster
Missouri allows private sales with no records. Also, FFL records are supposed to be destroyed after a certain amount of time, but the Highway Patrol (State LEO) was found to have been preserving them. NO one went to jail. No one knows if they are still.
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:07 PM (cPGH3)
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:07 PM (IC0n9)
Posted by: Zek at January 02, 2022 07:38 PM (8lTQz)
We set them off in the neighborhood parks here. And the cops don't even drive by. (We do have to go to another state to buy them.)
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 09:07 PM (zS6T2)
This will be an interesting year coming up. Nice to have gray box friends, with which to share.
Good night, all!
Posted by: RI Red - iGlN3 at January 02, 2022 09:08 PM (iGlN3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 08:42 PM (0IeYL
Love my Benchmade! Great stabby things.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 08:44 PM (4fSQf)
I have a Benchmade Claymore. Pretty!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at January 02, 2022 09:08 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: ck at January 02, 2022 09:08 PM (iBg56)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:08 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: blaster
Missouri allows private sales with no records. Also, FFL records are supposed to be destroyed after a certain amount of time, but the Highway Patrol (State LEO) was found to have been preserving them. NO one went to jail. No one knows if they are still.
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Thanks for the info.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:09 PM (IC0n9)
Grafs is also good for brass. Especially for really obscure shiite that you only could get by rolling your own for decades already.
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 02, 2022 09:09 PM (nBOh+)
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:09 PM (cPGH3)
https://bit.ly/3JBxNun
Posted by: bonhomme at January 02, 2022 09:10 PM (i0wNm)
If you want to make a modern version of the trench gun, get a Mossberg 590 with the heat shield and an M7/M9 bayonet. I think most, if not all, 590s still come w/ a bayonet lug for the M7 or M9 bayonet. It's not as impressive as the 97 with the M1917 sword bayonet, but it's a lot more affordable.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:10 PM (NacE+)
I have a Benchmade Claymore. Pretty!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at January 02, 2022 09:08 PM (Dc2NZ)
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I knew I liked you!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:10 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at January 02, 2022 09:08 PM (Dc2NZ
I let my BIL check out my Claymore at Christmas. It almost jumped out of his hands. He wasn't ready for that spring.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 09:11 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 02, 2022 09:09 PM (nBOh+)
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I think it will be put back into production very shortly. The insane markup on 9mm is over.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 09:12 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 09:12 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 09:11 PM (4fSQf)
Friends don't let friends screw with Claymores.
It is known. Friends let friends know where Claymores may or may not lie.
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:13 PM (cPGH3)
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:13 PM (IC0n9)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 09:14 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:10 PM
I'm sure the Manolos she wore to your Book Thread influenced that only slightly.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 02, 2022 09:14 PM (a3Q+t)
https://bit.ly/3JBxNun
Posted by: bonhomme at January 02, 2022 09:10 PM (i0wNm)
I'm sure Putin is shaking in his boots.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:14 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:14 PM (IC0n9)
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Thanks amigo! It's always a pleasure to have you here and I can't wait for October!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:14 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:13 PM (IC0n9)
But eternity may be just around the corner......Right, Sister?
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 09:15 PM (0OP+5)
It is just as illegal. Perhaps more so.
Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2022 09:15 PM (mbFEM)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 09:16 PM (4fSQf)
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It's all of you guys and gals that deserve the thanks. Really. No shit. But I appreciate that!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:16 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Eromero
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Amen, brother!
THAT Eternity, I am always looking up for.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:16 PM (IC0n9)
The good news is that you have about 100,000,000 friends.
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:16 PM (cPGH3)
I'm sure Putin is shaking in his boots.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:14 PM (AmoqO)
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I'm sure he shot milk out of his nose when he heard that.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:17 PM (0IeYL)
The good news is that you have about 100,000,000 friends.
Posted by: MkY
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Good to know I'm on more than one list.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:17 PM (IC0n9)
If you're inclined to spend the time and (some) $$, you can go through the National Archives to get copies of your dad's personnel file from the big storage facility in St. Louis. It might provide details about his service that you didn't know about, along w/ info about medals and awards.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:17 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:09 PM (cPGH3)
That 2A thing be more like guidelines, maybe even suggestions, or perhaps even comments, matey!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 09:17 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: ironmoron at January 02, 2022 09:18 PM (4Ux4F)
The good news is that you have about 100,000,000 friends.
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:16 PM (cPGH3)
And when the time comes it won't matter whether legal or illegal.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 09:18 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 02, 2022 09:19 PM (UHVv4)
Those boots are hot! And I can see you rocking the crap out of them.
Merry Christmas present to you!
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 09:19 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:14 PM (AmoqO)
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He wrote the statement.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 09:19 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 09:19 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:19 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:19 PM (IC0n9)
It is just as illegal. Perhaps more so.
Posted by: blaster
The law places the onus on the seller to determine if the buyer is eligible. That takes about 5 minutes.
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:19 PM (cPGH3)
Best to you, your lovely wife and the fur babies.
Happy New Year to all y'all.
Posted by: JTB at January 02, 2022 09:19 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 09:18 PM (0OP+5)
This
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 09:20 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:20 PM (0IeYL)
I'm also lucky enough to have a Cigars Intl physical location less than 10 minutes from me. Great place with indoor and outdoor smoking areas, full bar and of course a great selection of stogies. I've burned a few Oliva Serie V Melanios this past week - one of my favorite sticks.
As for boots I've been converted to Tecovas. They have a store near me and I have two pairs of them so far.
Thanks for the thread Weasel!
Posted by: pilot141 at January 02, 2022 09:21 PM (lL924)
Now begins the season of stockpiling for better weather, punctuated with some indoor practice.
Thanks again, Weasel. You did double duty today and I think both threads went well (in fact, I'm a bit miffed the book thread got an early stomp).
Anyway, Happy New Year!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2022 09:22 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:17 PM (NacE+)
He did 30 years in the Army, 1936-1966. I have a bunch of his records but one thing escapes me. He went over on the ueen Mary in 1942 and came back, from Italy, in mid 1944. I don't know how he came back. I assume they brought him back to staff the Armored School at Ft Knox.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:22 PM (AmoqO)
If I feel threatened, I'll carry concealed.
If I need to shoot someone to protect myself, I will shoot them.
I won't be a victim because I followed the rules and someone else didn't.
Nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 09:22 PM (U2p+3)
Thank You!
I am really very lucky to have the opportunity to hang out with you guys and gals every week. Love you all! Thank you for being here and reading my nonsense and being a such great little community.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:23 PM (0IeYL)
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Howdy and welcome to the Gun Thread! It's truly my pleasure!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:24 PM (0IeYL)
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Thank you, AHL. I appreciate that!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:25 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 08:11 PM (VEeVy)
Does this mean we have to behave now, like in the dress thread?
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 09:25 PM (zS6T2)
Your posts generated around 1200 comments today!
Congratulations and thank
You for another great gun thread.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 09:25 PM (U2p+3)
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Great. That means I owe CBD $12!
Thank you very much, my friend.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:27 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (OTzUX)
I love my Citadel 9mm 1911. And it is VERY easy to shoot.
I'm looking for a .45 GI 1911, too. I don't have the bucks to spend on a Colt or whatnot, though. But I'm saving my pennies.
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 09:27 PM (zS6T2)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 09:28 PM (0OP+5)
Unfortunately, the 1973 fire there destroyed a great deal of the paper trail.
Posted by: Zombie Warren Zevon at January 02, 2022 09:28 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 02, 2022 09:28 PM (4fSQf)
If I feel threatened, I'll carry concealed.
If I need to shoot someone to protect myself, I will shoot them.
I won't be a victim because I followed the rules and someone else didn't.
Nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 09:22 PM (U2p
Obviously, this makes so much sense, it simply cannot be allowed!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at January 02, 2022 09:28 PM (hOUT3)
Hope all the posters have a festive New Year.
BTW, one of the reasons why a lot of old timers do not like and bad mouth more modern versions of traditional firearms is the widespread use of MIM (metal injection molded) parts instead of the older forged parts. A lot of those parts had well documented issues in the 90's when introduced and the early 00's. Not so much now as the process seems to be more refined at most places.
Previous to that time, most action parts were forged, a few were investment castings, but mostly forged, but that is a more costly way to do parts nowadays. So, the widespread use of MIM parts by brand name firearms companies including places like Remington, etc.
Posted by: whig at January 02, 2022 09:30 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: dartist at January 02, 2022 08:12 PM (+ya+t)
Yes. The advantage is primarily a lot more control in a situation where you don't need the shot/slug to travel 50yds. Or even 20. Also, more ammo in the tube.
I haven't been able to try mine since I can't get to an outdoor range around here easily, and the indoor ones won't allow shot.
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 09:30 PM (zS6T2)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:30 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 02, 2022 09:31 PM (63Dwl)
If St. Louis has his records, you should see orders for him to return stateside and where he was to report to. Every move had a piece of paper for it.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:31 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Zombie Warren Zevon at January 02, 2022 09:28 PM (Xrfse)
Including mine. I asked for a copy of my 214 a few years ago and got a certificate instead. Good thing I have my original.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:31 PM (AmoqO)
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Howdy whig! Happy New Year. Hope all is going as well as it can.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:32 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 08:14 PM (mmU7u)
Dude, 33 years later and you haven't come up with a better story? *smh*
(Hint: it should contain at least something about having to jump out a second story bedroom window.)
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 09:32 PM (zS6T2)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 09:33 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:30 PM (0IeYL) I think that was what I wore with climbing gaffs back in the day. Georgia Boot is a good company.
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2022 09:33 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2022 07:07 PM (2JoB
Don't show him this one; it features her hubby (to be). You'd shatter his dreams right out of the gate.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 02, 2022 09:33 PM (mdjgu)
If St. Louis has his records, you should see orders for him to return stateside and where he was to report to. Every move had a piece of paper for it.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:31 PM (NacE+)
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:33 PM (AmoqO)
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Yep! Really well made, comfortable as can be, and a great value I think.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:34 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 02, 2022 09:35 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Weasel
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One of Ex-ex's cousins wears boots from them, and he works on a farm.
Hub has nothing but good things to say about them.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at January 02, 2022 09:35 PM (IC0n9)
Posted by: Weasel
Thanks Weasel, two close relatives are now in memory care and assisted living respectively. Still sorting houses for downsizing by those relatives which will take several months.
Just a reminder to others, make sure your near and dear ones do not retain firearms past their ability to judge when to use them.
Posted by: whig at January 02, 2022 09:36 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 08:21 PM (NacE+)
Have you tried Mason Munitions? The more common brand I saw out everywhere when I was looking, and when it was in, it was EXPENSIVE. Mason Munitions is a small company and don't seem to get the internet gun store love the other guys do. But they had pretty good service (again, haven't gotten to shoot them yet, dangit).
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 09:37 PM (zS6T2)
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What about sights, bead or ghost ring close up like that?
Posted by: dartist at January 02, 2022 09:41 PM (+ya+t)
See the National Personnel Records Center's webpage about the 1973 fire for more details. Most losses were for folks discharged prior to 1964, but reconstruction of records to give basic info (dates of service, rank, discharge status, etc.) at a minimum should be available to look up.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:41 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:42 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:42 PM (NacE+)
For cigar folks in WA, www.lilbrown.com is worth a check. Historically, UPS ground is like overnight delivery. YMMV. And if you're passing through Union Gap, their store is nothing fancy, but the selection is excellent.
Posted by: Rork at January 02, 2022 09:43 PM (0qG/I)
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Hi Rork! Welcome to the Gun Thread! Thanks for the recommendation.
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:44 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: whig at January 02, 2022 09:36 PM (9hXN1)
Very good advice. Had my stepdad pull out a pistol when I came by the house one night. He didn't recognize me. Fortunately is was inoperable but still sacred the hell out of the Mrs.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:44 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:45 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 09:45 PM (mmU7u)
Go w/ Rock Island. They make a basic 1911 for about $500.
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:46 PM (NacE+)
Comet channel having a Farscape marathon right now.
Posted by: Just a side note at January 02, 2022 09:45 PM (mmU7u)
Claudia Black fest.
Posted by: Javems at January 02, 2022 09:48 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 02, 2022 09:50 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2022 08:11 PM (VEeVy)
Does this mean we have to behave now, like in the dress thread?
Posted by: GWB at January 02, 2022 09:25 PM (zS6T2)
I would love to see a thread on quality boots!
Posted by: Ladyl at January 02, 2022 09:52 PM (+4oV5)
I would love to see a thread on quality boots!
Posted by: Ladyl at January 02, 2022 09:52 PM (+4oV5)
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bluebell will do it!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:52 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 02, 2022 09:52 PM (63Dwl)
Nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Keep in mind, you are known by the security cameras.
Change your look from overhead every day. Do NOT follow the same schedule.
Get on war footing. Your enemy already is (and I mean the local DA, and the state PA)...
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:53 PM (cPGH3)
Posted by: Ed L at January 02, 2022 09:46 PM (NacE+)
Just got a big rock 10mm double stack. 16+1 in the pipe. About $700. I guess they got the Para license. Will get out sooner or later to take my Fat Lisa for a test drive.
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 02, 2022 09:54 PM (nBOh+)
I would love to see a thread on quality boots!
Posted by: Ladyl at January 02, 2022 09:52 PM (+4oV5)
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bluebell will do it!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:52 PM (0IeYL)
Lol!
Only because a boot is a great place to hide a shiv!
Posted by: Ladyl at January 02, 2022 09:55 PM (+4oV5)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:56 PM (0IeYL)
I love the Smoke Shack in teh Gap.
They've been closed since the 'Rona started but the drive through is open.
Great people who know their stuff.
Also, coffee bar so you can drink coffee and smoke your cigar.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 02, 2022 09:56 PM (NgPv+)
You sit, and wait. And wait. And if no one calls you, or comes by, you don't volunteer.
Am I wrong?
Posted by: MkY at January 02, 2022 09:57 PM (cPGH3)
Thanks for being here tonight, enjoy the rest of your evening and have a great week. Hope to see you all right back here next Sunday.
Happy New Year!
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 09:58 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: dartist at January 02, 2022 10:00 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2022 10:01 PM (0IeYL)
https://bit.ly/3HshmPc
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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You have to be a body builder to shoot that thing...
oh, that's right, Marine.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 02, 2022 10:05 PM (1Avgt)
Found these that I may buy:
https://tinyurl.com/yc7nz4s8
Posted by: SMH
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Don't order online unless you have tried them on.
Properly fitting TLs are very comfortable ill fitting will tear up your back.
And may I suggest a pair with a taller shaft.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 02, 2022 10:15 PM (1Avgt)
I heard from a Marine tasked with body recovery that the shotgunner was usually the only man who consistently was out of ammo when they got to a site.
That, also, was early on when there were still issues with the reliability of the M16.
Posted by: waepnedmann at January 03, 2022 12:39 AM (70Nt8)
I haven't fired it yet, but I got rings and a Vortex Crossfire II 2-7x32 ready to go, with a light and relatively inexpensive Magpul Bipod.
I'm distinctly not a Ruger fan, but this rifle feels great in the hand and to the shoulder, and I like slowing down and really concentrating on shots(vs. the more tactical firearms I handled while in the military and previously for CC).
I've never worked with optics before and this will be a great way to get my feet wet.... Under $650 for gun, rings and a respectable optic, with .22 still relatively cheap.
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