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Saturday Night "Club ONT" June 21, 2025 [The 3 Ds]
Saturday Night Joke and Other Funnies A man walks into a bar and says, "Quick! Give me a shot of whiskey before the trouble starts!" The bartender shrugs and pours him a shot. The man grabs it, downs it, slams the glass on the bar, and says, "Quick! Give me another shot before the trouble starts!" The bartender pours another. Again, the man drinks it fast and slams the glass down. "Quick! Give me another shot before the trouble starts!" The bartender, now curious, says, "Okay... but when are you gonna pay for these drinks?" The man sighs and says, "Now the trouble starts."
Club ONT On Location!
As seen on the menu at the MoMe:
Mocktails - You order them and we mock you - observed by blaster
"I need a drink." - Old Lady Emhoff
The most confusing comment of the day:
"Happy to see everyone again!" - Beth, who isn't coming
From a lurker and first time attendee, when asked why she doesn't comment: "For the longest time I didn't know how to find the comments, so I just read the content."
Also from the lurker lady, after finding out she was sitting near TRex, the host of the Hobby Thread: "I love the Hobby Thread!" [Disco says - this was likely after she received a twenty from The Dino]
[Dino says - no idea what you're talking about. She loves pictures but reads the posts for the articles. ]
A common theme
"Wonder what Piper would say about Horde MoMe fashion choices?" "Can't wait to see Piper's fashion write-up of the NoVa MoMe."
"Don't try to get a quote from me, Disco Boy - or you might get shivved." - Bluebell (OK, maybe she didn't say that, but she was probably thinking it.)
"If you have nothing to say, it's alright" - Doof, as told to Jinx the Cat
We end with the comment of the day. It warrants a photo, not just a transcription
We are unaware of any arrests, unpaid bar tabs, or drunken marriage proposals that may have occurred at this year's NoVa MoMe. And frankly, we wouldn't tell you about them even if we did know about them. To be sure you don't miss out on MoMe details, you need to be there! If you haven't done so, the Club implores you to make your plans to attend TxMoMe-10 in October. No excuses -- just be there!
Rooftop Bars & Restaurants to Check Out in DC
Are otters dangerous ? pic.twitter.com/hcDEeOnNp8
— Anticommie (@QueenAnticommie) June 12, 2025
Drink of the Night Bow and Arrow
No mysteries here - just stuff that rhymes with Eddie
Top 10ish comments of the week. Or thereabout...
Club ONT brought to you by: Raffle Tickets. Keeping hopes alive and expectations low. No Club prizes this evening - hit the comments with your storied raffle wins or the ones that got away.
Club ONT respectfully asks that patrons act with care when the DJ asks everyone to "put their hands in the air and wave them like you just don't care." The ceiling fans are lower than you might expect. Thank you.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (cYBz/)
What a day!!1
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)
Not possible
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (FJMtP)
Notified the last thread
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (lUFok)
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (hftn9)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (dDmld)
Evenin'
Slow news day. Sorry about missing the NoVAMoMe. Work is a harsh mistress.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (PGK1w)
This got me to thinking - where exactly is the line between a medically appropriate, complete exam and some guy getting his jollies?
Things that make you go "Hmmmmmmmm. . . . .".
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (cYBz/)
I be bets he be told Trump whats to dew because Trump is a Idoit !!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein From Brattleboro, Vt at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (q/j2W)
I'm crying
ANYWAY
hi! just a quick check in and I gotta go to bed. been a busy weekend for us - for a lot of us!
glad the MoMe went well!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (dDmld)
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Iran so far away.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (79pEw)
So anything happening tonight? Seems quiet
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (IG2sK)
I be bets he be told Trump whats to dew because Trump is a Idoit !!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein From Brattleboro, Vt at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (q/j2W)
He painted the targets on the ground fluorescent yellow, warning Trump not to strike there.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (Pv3Rg)
Imma little miffed because I pwned the troll downstairs but it got willard.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KRtlO)
Still stuck on beer and wine?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (0eaVi)
*sets up pitchers & glasses along the bar*
WOO HOO! Happy Caturday Night at Club 3D!!!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: mindful webworker - now, shorter days at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (63lGh)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (63Dwl)
Hey Ayatollah, I'm not even going to think about bombing Iran until 14 days from now.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (aBgBM)
A punchline with a bonus pun. Well played.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (rdVOm)
Obama would have told the Iranians what was planned. Because the prissy little ponce would be in a snizz because his whole foreign policy just collapsed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (yjTHn)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2025 10:40 PM (WZKNR)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (+qU29)
The 3D's post music that "rhymes with Eddie."
And there's no Rush?
I'd call that a mystery.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Joe Redfield at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (KOtXO)
It was classic misdirection. The ayatollahs were all wondering WFT was going on in DC.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
Go to a MoMe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 10:44 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: Joe Redfield
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*fistbump* linked that one in the Tues ONT.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:44 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM
***
NoVa MoMe was in "silent but deadly" mode for OPSEC purposes.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
Nah. Most people including the young love strength, spine and will, and Trump is projecting all three.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (dDmld)
[ . . . ]
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)
Who knew Amyl Nitrate paired well with spicy chicken!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Beaver at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (tCdjd)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (cduTK)
It's wild, all the ways we get the news now. But not from the old dinos.
Anyway, Kellerman's comedic news bits are fun.
https://www.youtube.com/@KellermanKomedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8JRBUOsjvc
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (aaRct)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (Splbu)
https://shorturl.at/uq8qb
https://shorturl.at/12Ena
https://shorturl.at/Ad9Kv
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Kindltot
Spoken like a true Oregonian...
/s
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (rdVOm)
Mescal in my bourbon? That's sort of like how crack was invented, amirite.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Otter at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (i0F8b)
CBC is not impressed.
And the Dems had a few hours notice and no details. Smart move.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (jvJvP)
Just woke up *yawns*
What I miss?
People are freaking out because Trump dropped something.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (lUFok)
Go to a MoMe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)
Do what he say, do what he say!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
They'll forget about it within a week.
No we know why he extended their TikTok for a while.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (Dnobf)
Just woke up *yawns*
What I miss?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
Not much, we didn't miss a thing.
Posted by: USAF at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (aaRct)
I almost hope one of them does. Trump can then say that we have to send our Best and Brightest to do the work. Of course, that means the activist judges and flamboyant gays and trans.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (QyD0M)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (jAG+j)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
They'll forget about it within a week.
No, I don't think they will. They will remember that this is what an actual leader looks like.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (aaRct)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)
*With* us, right???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (ULPxl)
Bow and Arrow
Alternate drink of the night:
The Smoking Crater
1 oz Islay scotch
Enjoy the aroma.
Posted by: mikeski is enjoying some Ardbeg at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (dDmld)
Oh sorry, you're supposed to get one. Let us know where you are and we'll have it right over.
Posted by: Mossad agents in Biden and Obama masks at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
They'll forget about it within a week.
No we know why he extended their TikTok for a while.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (Dnobf)
Depends what happens in the next week or month. If it’s a one and done, maybe. If there’s more. Fehhhgetaboutit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (gWBY1)
Go to a MoMe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)
Do what he say, do what he say!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
I don't like to encourage people to attend.
The fewer folks show, the better I look.
(Kinda "last man on earth" strategy.)
Posted by: USAF at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (Splbu)
Or it could have been Biden. You know, that sonofabitch. He ruins a lot of stuff, and maybe I just happened to be standing there.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (qgNn3)
THERE ARE TOO MANY THREADS!!!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)
Why do you need to count threads?
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
There may well be repercussions. I'm okay with the possibility.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (+WYXX)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)
Why do you need to count threads?
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (uyIjy)
The higher the thread count, the softer the sheets.
Posted by: Wamsutta at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: Otter at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (/CkK4)
Please, please, please let it be "Edsel."
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (/y8xj)
Ronald thanks Donald from the Beyond for taking the next step with Iran.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (PkFyV)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)
*With* us, right???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June
Well of course!
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (yjTHn)
Closed due to the abundancy of stupid people
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
What a butterfingers! 😁
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)
They weren't alive or old enough to remember the Obama era takedown of Osama Bin Laden. This might be that "Zero Dark Thirty" moment for them.
I still remember vividly that evening, and all my liberal friends suddenly getting hard ons for the military and POTUS striking a target WITHOUT congressional approval. But no one threatened to impeach Obama over it.
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
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Found On Road Dead - Ow!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (XZ5S6)
But on the bright side it does put a crimp in the pride month festivities. So there’s that. Silver linings.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (/CkK4)
I assume the Israeli's would have.
There's a lot of info to be gleaned from isotope ratios.
Posted by: retropox at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (a8Nkr)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (yjTHn)
MSNBC is questioning why US Trump signed his social media post announcing the Iranian bombings as Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. Me: cuz that's his name and job title? That's all I got.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
Yep. Now he has no chance of being re-elected in in 2028.
Wait. What?
Never mind.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (J+OHH)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg
I went right to Barak.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (Dsfkc)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
I have my simple solution for that: Shut off the computer and go to bed.
Hey, club guzzlers: My doc has told me to lay off the booze for the interim. So, y'all have a shot for me.
G'nite, y'all. 💤
Posted by: mindful webworker - tomorrow will be warm and humid at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (63lGh)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg
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LOL.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Miklos opted for Falafel at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (UYy+W)
Posted by: JUNE20TH at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (R6Hhu)
Rhymes with Eddie: Bette, as in She's Got Bette Davis Eyes.
Posted by: Official Delurker, likes most types of music at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (M/92e)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (yjTHn)
Candygram for Mongo
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (ilX37)
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To be fair, there is nothing in the Constitution about bombing crazy mullahs.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gWBY1)
They could have evacuated things Out Of An Abundance Of Caution, although I suppose that would be difficult to hide from satellite view.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (ULPxl)
Wait. What?
Never mind.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (J+OHH)
When Dems flip 50 seats in the house will that make a difference?
I don’t think most 29 year olds here understand how opposed to endless war the younger generations are. While Fox News is stroking it tonight, as are their boomer viewers, millions of Trump voters under 40 are asking what the actual fuck? And they’re not going to sit back and shrug. They’re pissed and their outlet is going to be voting Democrat next time. And in 2028.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (2GCMq)
---
'Tis but a scratch
-Black Knight with his arm off
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
I had a case of Tritaparsi when I was 23. Bedridden for weeks.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (36PRH)
I think this whole this was planned out with us and Israel to the second. All this stuff about "Will Trump attack", #TwoWeeks, oh Trump is vacillating and mad at Tulsi, and all that was just theater.
The whole "B-2s going over the Pacific and refueling NOTAMs" was all further deception and "squirrel!"
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Kamil Harris at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (q/j2W)
Ayatolla Khamenei: No you infidel dog. You haven't even put a s ratch on our nuclear facilities.
PRP: (SLAMS PHONE DOWN. WAITS 10 SE ONDS AND THEN DIAL UP AYATOLLA KHAMENEI)
PRP: If you even harm one hair on the head of one american....
AK: We will do as we please to the great Satan we will....
PRP: (slams phone down waits ten seconds and calls AK back)
AK: WTF?
PRP: I'm in your blind spot and I'm coming for you. Kill one more American or Israeli and you will wish I came with a MOP. (Slams phone down)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (OA79/)
"atomic" wings? Give me the recipe & I'll make a batch of those, too!
Alternatively-- get in the kitchen y'self!
Welcome. May I buy you a drink, sir?
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (rdVOm)
So he won't win reelection in 2028?
Oh no.
For the first time in 46 years Iran got its shit pushed in. It's ok to win. Good even.
The word just went out around the world, do not fuck around with the United States of America or we will inflict a price you can't afford. It's about damn time.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:04 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (CHHv1)
No, you didn't bring anyone down.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (PkFyV)
All the "boys" involved are fine. Trump didn't send in troops, he took out some targets. He's done it before, without boots on the ground.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (Ezs10)
No more incessant 'Iran is X weeks away from building an A-bomb.' At least, I hope no more.
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (t9lPv)
Posted by: Barky o numbnutz at June 21, 2025 11:06 PM (OA79/)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
I believe it was "Wing Attack Plan R"
Posted by: MAJOR KONG at June 21, 2025 11:06 PM (R6Hhu)
Operation "The Paulo". You know, deep penetration.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (viF8m)
He just reserved a place on Mt Rushmore.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (aaRct)
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (ilX37)
All that's really required for an impeachment are a simple majority of votes in the House of Representatives. No misconduct required. (e.g. Trump's first term.)
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)
Holey Moses
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)
[ . . . ]
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)
Who knew Amyl Nitrate paired well with spicy chicken!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)
Amyl and the Sniffers > Amyl Nitrate
https://youtu.be/uSyig1NQERQ?si=wg7gaDJQzV5aXjSw
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (8hxDK)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025
Every party needs a pooper.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (pZEOD)
(I lived in Oregon, once upon a time... loved it)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (t9lPv)
Rats. I wanted to watch it live.
Posted by: Somewhere South ofI-80 at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)
It all depends on what happens in the next few days. If things go south, there will be trouble.
But if it turns right - everyone lives a winner. Always have, always will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (EVFZ5)
"This is not constitutional," Massie said, responding to Trump's Truth Social post announcing the strikes on Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan in Iran.
Oh, but it was OK when Chocolate Jesus did !!!!!!
During his presidency, Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes that killed approximately 3,797 people. In fact, Obama authorized 54 drone strikes alone in Pakistan during his first year in office. One of the first CIA drone strikes under President Obama was at a funeral, murdering as many as 41 Pakistani civilians. The following year, Obama led 128 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan that killed at least 89 civilians.
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (BltCC)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)
Holey Moses
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)
Operation Slow Ride.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (OA79/)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (+qU29)
They got their mission planning from Star Wars.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (viF8m)
It will be interesting to see if this spurs any gen z to turn out for the No Kings protests on July 4, but I highly doubt it.
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
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Operation FAFO.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (RAtNF)
Operation Kiss Your Ass Goodbye
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (2GCMq)
Exactly. Democrats are always furious. It's like it's their job.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (aaRct)
Nicholas Fondacaro@NickFondacaro
"I feel terrible."
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.
https://is.gd/FLPKdQ
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Of course, no thought was given to what was best for the country.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (uyIjy)
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Trump only needs two more impeachments to get a free six-inch sandwich from Subway.
*hot sandwiches excluded
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (dDmld)
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Over the last 8 days, Iran--and their supporters around the world--endlessly threatened ... everything.
And delivered ... nothing.
I gotta say, just how much of the "threat" of Iran was cardboard tanks and wooden guns?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (zwX/r)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (Splbu)
Trump may turn out to be the most popular wartime leader since FDR.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (EVFZ5)
Its sequel is "I Didn't Walk Towards Your Love, Iran."
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)
Let's at least wait a few days to see what the polls look like and not just assume what millions of people we've never met are feeling right now.
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (uyIjy)
Nicholas Fondacaro@NickFondacaro
"I feel terrible."
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.
https://is.gd/FLPKdQ
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Of course, no thought was given to what was best for the country.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (L/fGl)
But we can still point and laugh at her Maoist struggle session.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Megthered at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (GOJbT)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)
Holey Moses
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)
Operation Slow Ride.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless
Free Bird.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (8hxDK)
Like all of my kidlets and friends who are celebrating wildly?
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (tubbA)
From something I was seeing, the real B-2 strike force flew east near Spain, refueling near "Moron Air Base" in Spain, and also Crete, and went into Iran. Now, that's some claim on X I was seeing.
Moron Air Base.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (w6EFb)
"We have just uploaded Starlink to Iran as a humanitarian effort.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (i0F8b)
Because what they really desired in their heart of hearts was unilateral disarmament so the Soviets could conquer us and usher in the glorious revolution.
Their politics are quite literally: America bad, capitalism bad, Christians and Jews bad, men bad, white bad.
Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (aqZN1)
They can suck on their 'US can not do anything' of 1979....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (+qU29)
They got their mission planning from Star Wars.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (viF8m)
Hah. I told you the air shafts were the key! But dang, those were some big motherlovin grenades. Git up offa that thing! Heh! HOT TUB!
Posted by: James Brown at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (OA79/)
Like all of my kidlets and friends who are celebrating wildly?
Posted by: Man
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Same. +1.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (aaRct)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (2GCMq)
George Lucas, you magnificent bastard!
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (SRRAx)
Or not.
Keep seeing this assumption stated as fact.
As for 'we're at war', well, we've been at war with Iran since 1979 and too many people just don't want to admit it.
I'm against regime change. I'm not against permanently disabling an Islamist regimes nuke weapons program.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:16 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Mike Hunt
That guy is a terrible shot.
Posted by: Michael Jordan at June 21, 2025 11:16 PM (53oPJ)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (Splbu)
I dunno, it’s kind of fun to watch cowards weep.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
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Operation Ballz Deep
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (pI9a0)
No, we do not have any SR-71's or other Blackbirds any longer.
I was at Skunk Works 20 years, and was in a project office, working on Dark Star, when Ben Rich took another call from the Senate. It must have been about 1990...
He came out of the bosses office, telling us, 'We've told them so many times, when you stop the funding, the entire logistics chain stops, the suppliers have all stopped. They had wanted to for years, the SR-71 equipment was no longer their modern stuff. We cannot bring it back."
I have recently heard one spaceplane outfit has scoured the world for every gallon of JP-7 they could scrounge up for their project. Didn't find much.
Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (YkdQj)
It's up to the Iranian people to take back their country now. If they don't, shame on them.
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (tubbA)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (rdVOm)
speculation that the B-2 bombers were able to drop their weapons into... get this... the fucking air ducts at Fordow to enhance their penetration into the lab.
"Precision"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (Q4IgG)
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So? I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.
Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (36PRH)
Narcissists gotta Narc. They are conveniently forgetting the Biden coup, the assassination attempts on Trump hear round the world, the footage of Kamala approving trans surgeries for inmates using taxpayer money, Elon, Joe Rogan, the financial waste on the Call Her Daddy temporary set, the skibidi Ohio no rizz of Boomer Kamala for the youth, gas prices, egg prices, all prices...
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (t9lPv)
They got their mission planning from Star Wars.
Posted by: JackStraw
Penthouse equipment room for the elevator shafts...
Doh !!!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:19 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Robbie Rist at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: gKWVE
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I suspect we will be seeing a lot of the Gap Band in meme world over the next few days.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (gKWVE)
FO Daisy
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (3ek7K)
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Saw a tweet that the Iranian Atomic Authority is threatening legal action in retaliation for the strikes.
Guess they are hoping to file in Judge Boasberg's court.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 11:21 PM (36PRH)
We named our new dog Daisy. Since the troll Daisy has shown up I"m considering changing my dog's name.
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:21 PM (3ek7K)
People who spend all their time looking at polls are still waiting for President Kamala to be inagurated.
Do you know what most people like? Winning. Not being threatened by insane religous fanatics. Getting payback against terrorists who have been bombing, shooting, stabbing and killing Americans for over 40 years. And now they won't get a nuke. Anyone trying to pretend that isn't an enormous thing is retarded.
Young people are largely stupid because they are young. But they tend to get older and learn that the world doesn't operate like a video game and some times hard things have to be done so they can still play those video games.
Trump pulled off this attack off without anyone having any clue it was about to happen. What do you suppose the odds are that he also knows that Iran has sleeper cells in the US and there will likely be counter attacks? He did it anyway because it had to happen. Who would you rather be right now, Donald Trump or an Iranian mullah?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (je3ji)
Posted by: MAYOR PETE at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (R6Hhu)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp!
Russia said nah. They're not doing that. Iran fucked up. They trusted them.
youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (PGK1w)
us-strike-fordow-iran-nuclear-site
The shock wave front is visible for a brief moment. And there are a few interesting sights and sounds as ordinance cooks off.
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (jAG+j)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (+qU29)
Yeah well when Trump wins the award it will negate the award Oblowme got for blowing his lover in the back of a car in Chicago...
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (Ezs10)
Hopefully it stays that way.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (lhenN)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (je3ji)
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (tubbA)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (BltCC)
You realize he was acting under the Authorization to Use Military Force that Bush got from Congress, right? Even though it was a p***y move to not simply declare war on the terrorists, it was in effect a declaration of war by Congress.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)
youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (PGK1w)
Russia said... 'sorry... we're busy'...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (mP0Kj)
America and Israel just fucked shit up like nobody has done in decades.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Ayatolla Khomeni at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (rvwwT)
I'm a bit dubious of this "all six through the air shafts" thing. It will be a while before any reliable info on the actual methods and targets were, I think. A lot of this may be actual disinformation.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)
An open ended never ending, Use of Force Authorization...
Even used against those not even covered BY that Act.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)
Democrats who are so against getting us involved in wars?
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (viF8m)
Decisions, decisions...
So, one bed is being warmed by Melania, the other by a goat in a burka.
Tough call.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (uyIjy)
Well, tonight, Trump took that strategy off the table by referencing "What nuclear program?"
They thought they had two weeks to work out the details. They didn't.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (dIske)
He droned an American citizen without that due process we hear so much about from the left these days.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (t9lPv)
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)
IIRC The President has 60 days from emergency use of military action to go before Congress for a war resolution.
Is that correct?
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:27 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 11:27 PM (DgGvY)
I think Massie is probably a goner in the primary like Justin Amash was in Michigan during Trump's first term. People make allowances for some deviations but adopting Dem talking points against Trump's entire presidency is likely to be his undoing.
He might already be thinking of doing a Michael Forbes before his term ends.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Judge Boasberg at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (w6EFb)
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
And that is exactly the air bridge I predicted when they mentioned all those tankers flying eastward early last week. Been there, done that one, on both ends.
(That sounds kinky, doesn't it?)
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (PkFyV)
P.S "I'm not sure what "It's go time Donald is supposed to mean" but I think Trump just "went".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (2GCMq)
Is that correct?
Posted by: polynikes
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48 hours notice to Congress (except in cases of emergency - then can acti immediately), 60 days for emergency use, 30 days for withdrawal. I think? Not 100%
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: We Must Not
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I guess you didn't know all the personnel had been evacuated in advance. The goal was to destroy the capabilities of the facilities.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (i0F8b)
Governor Tim Walz
@GovTimWalz
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18m
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.
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Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (rdVOm)
*hot sandwiches excluded
Posted by: Cicero
HA!
Posted by: Miklos is Amused at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (UYy+W)
The main threat in Minnesota is the asshole Walz
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)
He did notify Johnson and Thune. I don’t know if that complies.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (VofaG)
The 60 days is from the War Powers Act which is of dubious constitutionality. Every president including Ford who vetoed it has held that to be so. Congress has the power of the purse or even impeachment but not direct power to order a president to stop a military action.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (ctrM5)
*hot sandwiches excluded
Posted by: Cicero
HA!
Posted by: Miklos is Amused at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (UYy+W)
He should wait for a couple more, and get one from a better sub chain or shop.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (S/Y4j)
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.
She took down planet Earth itself.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (63Dwl)
Well shit, it's a long way to haul those suckers back to Arkansas!!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (PQOq3)
Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb, bomb Iran...
Posted by: Pikov Andropov
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Akshually, the Beach Boys version was a cover. The original was by The Regents.
Sorta like Pat Boone and _Tutti Frutti_.
Posted by: buddhaha at June 21, 2025 11:33 PM (4ETSN)
I'm really hoping to get some detailed info on just what, where, and how was involved with that Fordow hit.
It's going to be a while.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:33 PM (w6EFb)
Y'all know where everything is...
Posted by: JQ
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*Checks schedule...damnit, I thought JQ was pulling a double shift tonight*
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (41CYW)
That's some serious boom-boom.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)
(Sorry, that comment was from early 2017)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (VofaG)
P.S "I'm not sure what "It's go time Donald is supposed to mean" but I think Trump just "went".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (2GCMq)
Part of Trump’s appeal was being opposed to endless war. He just burned that tonight. It’s reasonable to think it will have an effect on voters who backed him for this reason. Don’t you think?
I wanted him to “go” do things like border security. Which he’s done. Not start a needless war.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (/CkK4)
youtu.be/aobIboK_z34
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (gKWVE)
Call it just a break, then. LOL!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)
That, or a Cousin's Subs in my AO.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)
I prefer Firehouse
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (VofaG)
@GovTimWalz
18m
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.
Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?
Posted by: Piper
Also, Ilhan Omar has been placed on suicide-bomber watch.
I mean "suicide watch."
Posted by: Governor Knucklehead at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (DNJiU)
If a single question is all it took to take out an entire party, maybe it's time for some quiet introspection?
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: polynikes
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Posted this in an earlier thread. The last time an American President received congressional authorization for military action AUMF), was in October of 2002. 1991 was the next most recent AUMF. There have been a lot military actions before, after, and in between those dates.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (41CYW)
It’s mind blowing.
Posted by: DaisyB at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (AbL8c)
I know for a troll it's hard to understand this but Iran's been at war with us since 1979. Killed many many Americans through the years by using their proxies Hisb'Allah, Hamas, and other muzzie terrorist orgs. This action has been LONG overdue.
Do you think Iran's war chant for decades, 'Death to America!', is just rhetoric?
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (IG2sK)
Trump To Address Nation at 10 PM Eastern on the Successful Bombing of the Primitive Screwheads
I would just point out that 99.9% of Iran was not bombed. Posted by: Duke Lowell
President Trump sent MULTIPLE decoy bombers west out of the US, while the B-2s that ultimately dropped the bunker busters went East, undetected. pic.twitter.com/mTC1S1qxiK
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Posted by: Duke Lowell
So
Mostly peaceful bombing
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Don't get cocky, kid.
Posted by: Han Solo at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Rashida Tlaib! at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (rJ7Hd)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)
An honor that comes to very few, congratulations!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (7v6oI)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (36PRH)
But seriously, I’ve heard ‘mission accomplished’ before. I hope that this not only cut the head off the CHUD (IYKYK), but fucked it in the ass with an acid-soaked sandpaper dildo. I expect we’ll know by the end of the coming week.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (aeiyZ)
Posted by: FAFO at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: jmel at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (bVhJi)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Redenzo at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (Mb1VS)
"How can the press keep the president honest if it doesn't allow leaks to the press at the highest levels?"
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (Plbvm)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)
An honor that comes to very few, congratulations!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (hOUT3)
Sought by many, achieved by few.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (W/lyH)
This is so scary.
Posted by: jmel at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (bVhJi)
This isn't scary.
This. Is. SPARTA!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (aOqEy)
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I think the 135T's are SpecOps equipped. Meaning they can be refueled themselves. Other "regular" 135's can't.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (36PRH)
Your post really needs the word "sadly" in there somewhere...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: zombie Iranian Leaders channeling zombie Nixon at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (8sv0v)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (Plbvm)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (dDmld)
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When is he not butthurt?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (rvwwT)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (aeiyZ)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (jGGMD)
Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Again tomorrow, then?
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: ace
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Gabe. Hahaha. The last time an American President received congressional authorization for military action AUMF), was in October of 2002. 1991 was the next most recent AUMF. There have been a lot military actions before, after, and in between those dates.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (vy0Ka)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (aeiyZ)
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He's a True Conservative who thinks sodomy should be at the very top of the conservative agenda.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: PG at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (afPT4)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (aeiyZ)
43 As a great man once said, Gabriel Malor is an asshole.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM
An asshoe, apparently.
Posted by: GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)
An honor that comes to very few, congratulations!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (hOUT3)
It's a moment that makes the years of willowing suddenly worth it.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (jGGMD)
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the Enforcer youtube channel showed a satellite clip that showed the explosion.
It was ... big.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (zwX/r)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (dDmld
He's most definitely a bottom bitch.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (0aYVJ)
Get that strange cock out of you ass and that weird one out of your mouth - you are gibbering.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (8sv0v)
You don't want to know what he is doing to a chalupa.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Hey assholes, YOU MISSED!
Neener neener neener
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Miklos likes nice stories at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade "
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Way back days at AoS. Didn't work out.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Again tomorrow, then?
yeah, we can just keep dropping bombs. The Israelis opened up the airspace for us. Resistance is minimal and often non-existent.
there is always the chance that they get a missile up and it hits a plane. Let's pray.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (KRtlO)
The Enforcer claims to show geo-located footage of the attacks (whatever that means).
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade
He was a lying, cocksucking cob who lost his mind.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (5WDkb)
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Sure, the custodial staff will have it ready to return to work in a jiffy.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (kB+Uw)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (aeiyZ)
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Ah, the Jeopardy question to the statement, "Someone who matters not a whit."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Hey assholes, YOU MISSED!
Neener neener neener
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (dDmld)
When they move their lips you know they’re lying
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (ANuwa)
Posted by: Nickelback at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (/0VpY)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (zwX/r)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade
He was a lying, cocksucking cob who lost his mind.
Posted by: rickb223
The first two are a problem.
The third is kind of expected, riding herd on us Morons for years.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (kB+Uw)
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Just like when he killed that Syrian general by missile in his first term.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (Plbvm)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM
I take it your rhinestone- and sequin-induced rashes have subsided enough for you to sit?
Congratulations! Just in time for the semi-annual Commentator Evaluations that Ace and the CoBs are hard at work on.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (ANuwa)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)
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So? Muslims lie as a matter of religious obligation.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)
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Congrats, have a nice Islay. The Blade had TWO of them, on the same post. It was the post about that Britney Griner whore getting exchanged out of Russia. It took a very big check to the tip jar to pull that off. LOL.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (aeiyZ)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (NXz8h)
Time to set up the Marshall stacks, and blast the national anthem and the Battle Hymn of the Republic. Make sure the sound system is set to 11!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (S/Y4j)
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Sure, the custodial staff will have it ready to return to work in a jiffy.
*caff, caff*
Uh, boss, I think I'm getting sick. Yup definitely not feeling well. It'll be a few days before I can come back to work.
Posted by: Iranian nuclear scientist at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: Iran! at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM
Oh noes!
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
Reverse Taqiyya is a bitch, eh Mohammed?
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (77W69)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: JackStraw
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Got the game on here, too. *fistbump*
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)
They haven't realized that President Trump was using "two weeks" in the AoS flexible timeframe!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)
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So? Muslims lie as a matter of religious obligation.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (IBQGV)
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How's that taqiyya taste, BITCHES!
Posted by: POTUS at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Redenzo at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (Mb1VS)
Had a family member was was in the Hanoi Hilton with McCain. I doubt Patton is partying with him.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (W/lyH)
He likes soccer and thought the World Cup was the ultimate sporting event.
Nuff said.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (pEVER)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (xzkgE)
*clears throat*
Gabriel Malor is an asshole. He jumped ship to the New York Daily News without ever acknowledging that I am his intellectual and philosophical father, and that I made him, as a baker would make a loaf of Ungrateful Bread.
I have chosen him to accept this award on my behalf out of spite.
Thank you, John, and anyone else for this award. I appreciate it. It is a validation that I, and not the human ventriloquist doll reading this statement, am a true force in the online media.
Thank you again, and please makes sure that that your thunderous applause is directed solely towards me and not this sad puppet that stands before you in all his shame.
-Ace
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (viF8m)
More bombs than Jimmy Kimmell's career.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (AThW+)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)
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So? Muslims lie as a matter of religious obligation.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (IBQGV)
Taqiyya
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (ANuwa)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (ACpVb)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h/i]
Mostly two weeks.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 21, 2025 09:57 PM (UztFL)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 09:57 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: Shade tree expert at June 21, 2025 09:57 PM (+abK1)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:57 PM (uqyLy)
WAR CRIME!
Posted by: Rashida Tlaib! at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (xTIDn)
Girl, your brother has the herpes simplex 10.
Posted by: JUNE20TH at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (R6Hhu)
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (yjTHn)
Thank you again, and please makes sure that that your thunderous applause is directed solely towards me and not this sad puppet that stands before you in all his shame.
-Ace
Posted by: Dr. T at June
Lol
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (77W69)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (AThW+)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (sp5rp)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (aOqEy)
IAEA? The assemble it yourself shelving people?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (kB+Uw)
Those half dozen new bulwark enthusiasts will be sorely missed. I'm sure they're busy creating cucksky accounts right now.
Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (aqZN1)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (UztFL)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (jc0TO)
>>An obviously negative one.
He's a condescending asshole who is almost always wrong. So yea.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Rashida Tlaib! at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (xTIDn)
Girl, your brother has the herpes simplex 10.
Posted by: JUNE20TH at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (R6Hhu)
Copycat.
Posted by: Ilhan Omar at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (jGGMD)
Mabe Galore abused his power of cob now and again for the audacity of challenging the alphabet agenda.
Not missed in the least and the fetid swamps of bluesky is exactly where he should be.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (jAG+j)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (u73oe)
Remember Barky? 10 pm presser. Shows up at 11pm. Treated the press like the pieces of shit they were and are. One good quality.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (jvJvP)
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Two videos of the gigantic bomb blasts:
https://tinyurl.com/z5tdrwpy
(Jfeed)
HUGE.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (6ydKt)
Ok I can just wait.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (UztFL)
Any minor country? No
Terrorist groups like hezbollah and Hamas? Yes
American NPCs at Penn Station? Yes
Speaks volumes
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (i5Vkf)
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (h7ZuX)
Most of all they would told Iran. Jarrett and Obama must be CRYING their little fucking islamist eyes out tonight.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (b7rtK)
Yes, this.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (77W69)
Some light bringer.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Big Star at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (Modkf)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (+qU29)
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Two videos of the gigantic bomb blasts:
https://tinyurl.com/z5tdrwpy
(Jfeed)
HUGE.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM
Those need to be set to music.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (uqyLy)
this is bullshit!
Posted by: CNN at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (pIfcn)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (NwfFc)
I love those people.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (jvJvP)
So having 14 to 16 is a nice buffer.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (FZn/N)
They are now saying 14 to 16 MOPs.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (tuLbh)
________
Hope they saved a couple for Los Angeles.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (IBQGV)
"We'll get them in a few days...."
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (jvJvP)
Today's strikes didn't start anything.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (AThW+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (3ImbR)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (PGK1w)
He squeaked when he walked.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (77W69)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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So the guys who lied about "not making a bomb" are saying that there was no damage at the site where they are definitely "not making a bomb"?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (pI9a0)
Posted by: Puddleglum at
I haven’t even thought about him. Some people are just like that, you know. Unremarkable.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (ju/6W)
Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (FZn/N)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (AThW+)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Goddessoftheclassroom at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (USyCi)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (3ImbR)
Basically, he just told Iran, "Do not test my resolve. You will disarm NOW or we will destroy you."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (IBQGV)
I have chosen him to accept this award on my behalf out of spite.
Thank you, John, and anyone else for this award. I appreciate it. It is a validation that I, and not the human ventriloquist doll reading this statement, am a true force in the online media.
Thank you again, and please makes sure that that your thunderous applause is directed solely towards me and not this sad puppet that stands before you in all his shame.
-Ace
Thanks for that, Dr. T.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (pI9a0)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (AThW+)
/Looks apthread...
Oh... the R-13 Doctrine? I hope so.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (jGGMD)
He's Looking For a Group? But they just completed a 25-man raid! On Mythic Difficulty!
Posted by: pookysgirl , making World Of Warcraft jokes at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (jvJvP)
Abu cried liked a dog. Don't cry Abu. I wouldn't have cried.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (+qU29)
If Fordow is to be taken out it’s going to have to be taken out on the ground.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM
Oh noes!
Posted by: toby928
(whispers)He won't. Sad wishcasting trolls.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (aBgBM)
The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.
He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.
It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.
Posted by: Iran! at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (E0p3T)
excellent speech
remember tfg who was always 40 minutes late and said "uh" multiple times in a single sentence?
what a different and better world we live in today!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (viF8m)
Best speech ever.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (77W69)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (ACpVb)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (tuLbh)
I called Gabe an ungrateful loaf of bread.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (b7rtK)
Beat me to it.
Posted by: pookysgirl has a long memory at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (Wt5PA)
The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.
He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.
It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.
Can we send her back to Puerto Rico?
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (AThW+)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM
Well, there was certainly a lot of surprise penetration.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (sp5rp)
I wondered about that. What was the point? None of them spoke. Did they ask to be in the frame? Hegseth, at least, has a lot to do. Perhaps it's a campaign photo for 2028.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (2myyY)
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That's one take. It's bananas. But it's a take.
Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (wGun1)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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So the guys who lied about "not making a bomb" are saying that there was no damage at the site where they are definitely "not making a bomb"?
It was a baby formula factory! With Geiger counters!
Posted by: Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (Riz8t)
He's probably hate-fvcking a gallon of Jerry Garcia.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (uqyLy)
The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.
He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.
It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.
So bombing a country that has been attacking us for decades is an impeachable offense but the extrajudicial killing of a US citizen via drone strike is totes cool? Is that how it works?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (lUFok)
The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.
He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.
It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.
Posted by: Iran! at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (xTIDn)
Oh noes! Not the em peach mints!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (dR6yv)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM
Well, there was certainly a lot of surprise penetration.
Went in dry
Posted by: Shade tree expert at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (+abK1)
We blew that shit up, like only we could.
If Iran doesn't STFD and STFU, we'll blow up even more shit.
Yeah, G-d!
Posted by: speech, TL;DR version at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: ... at June 21
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Give me $20 on The Bandit. And $20 on Vance.
Posted by: Little Enos Burdette at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Peaches at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (14URa)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (dR6yv)
Objection assumes facts not in evidence
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (E0p3T)
Not enough to watch, though.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: L - No nic,another fine day at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (i5Vkf)
There's a comedian named Shane Gillis who does a very funny take on that speech including a fantastic impression of Trump. I was crying I was laughing so hard first time I heard it.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (jAG+j)
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Best writing on the entire internet bar none.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (pI9a0)
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (2myyY)
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I think it may have been a statement of unity among the most important members of President Trump's Cabinet. Both SecState and SecDef played a huge role in what just happened. VP Vance is there as a reminder that if Iran takes out President Trump, President Vance will show no mercy.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (IBQGV)
If Fordow is to be taken out it’s going to have to be taken out on the ground.
We will certainly have to wait for the BDAs. Regardless, the mullahs now know we're serious.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (aOqEy)
Nooooo! You'll bring back the Maxine Waters' Hair poster!
Posted by: pookysgirl has a long memory at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (2myyY)
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Probably just trying to show a united team behind him and this decision.
There's no I in 'Team Trump'.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (6ydKt)
Don't want the president to have the authority to strike at terror targets anymore? Repeal the AUMF.
Until then, these strikes are perfectly legal and constitutional.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (Plbvm)
>> He's probably hate-fvcking a gallon of Jerry Garcia.
Not going to lie, they may be godless commies, but Cherry Garcia and NY Super Fudge Chunk are the two best ice creams in the history of ice creams.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (E0p3T)
And pederasty.
But mostly Iranian flag avatars.
And pederasty.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (r2ymA)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (dR6yv)
Objection assumes facts not in evidence
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (E0p3T)
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honestly, he can probably suck 2 cocks and post at the same time
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (pI9a0)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (pI9a0)
Sadly, it was not just Democrat Prezzys who let Iran get away with shit...
I'm still mad at Reagan for pulling us out of Lebanon and allowing our Marines to die unavenged.
That the folks who were supposed to relieve us on station in Beirut... after that... were busy invading Grenada instead of relieving us? I'll never forgive.
They came back to Parades and speeches... we snuck into port on a cold rainy Norfolk VA day with almost no acknowledgement.
Note... to add insult to injury? the Clint Eastwood Movie? about Grenada? shows them Launching from LPH-2 the Iwo Jima... the very fucking ship and crew they EXTENDED in Beirut, after losing their Marines... so others could attack Grenada.
Yeah... I'll admit... got a bit of a chip on my shoulder about THAT piece of history.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (yjTHn)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (IG2sK)
Overall, it was a mostly peaceful dropping of multiple 30,000 bunker busting bombs onto hostile nuclear sites...
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (i5Vkf)
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (r2ymA)
He probably downed 12,000 diet cokes today.
Posted by: Peaches at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (14URa)
I thought of something else...if President Trump had given these barbarians and moo-lahs more time, they would have had a conference, then committees, endless and futile meetings with the Europeans getting involved for pretend peace accords. I read something the other day that the supreme leader, whom I hope is charred at this point, or a moo-lah, had asked to meet with the EU. That would have opened up another can of worm holes, then kick the can.
I thank each and every one of you who served. I remember the bombing of the Marines. I blame Jimmy Carter, then all the rest, and especially Obumba and Bident for pallets of cash.
God be with our military and this country going forward. It was the right thing to do, and I doubt President Trump did this without a lot of thought and prayer.
119 90 The reason I joined the military in 80 was because of Iran. It’s about time. It’s a new world without a constant shit stirrer in the ME.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (Aoykm)
Thank you all.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (2myyY)
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I think it may have been a statement of unity among the most important members of President Trump's Cabinet. Both SecState and SecDef played a huge role in what just happened. VP Vance is there as a reminder that if Iran takes out President Trump, President Vance will show no mercy.
It was a bit jolting to see 4 white men, no DEI hires, just people doing their job, almost as if that was the important thing, and not their color or genitalia.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (Riz8t)
Not going to lie, they may be godless commies, but Cherry Garcia and NY Super Fudge Chunk are the two best ice creams in the history of ice creams.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (XV/Pl)
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I don't care if the Elixir of Life is an ingredient, I don't eat godless commie ice cream.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (QnmlO)
It was perfectly obvi he was a Methodist.
Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Richard Simmons at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (/0VpY)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (8sv0v)
We've dipped our toes, is the water warm enough?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (6ydKt)
"Also, President Bush allowed it to happen."
Posted by: President Donald J Trump at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (ACpVb)
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Best writing on the entire internet bar none.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (pI9a0)
I have strong memories of reading that in the University of Missouri library computer lab and crying with the effort not to burst out laughing in front of everyone.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (jGGMD)
They only have one play book.
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (AThW+)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (yjTHn)
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Can't wait to get me a t-shirt next year!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (DNJiU)
If Fordow is to be taken out it’s going to have to be taken out on the ground.
We will certainly have to wait for the BDAs. Regardless, the mullahs now know we're serious.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (Riz8t)
Air vents!!!!
Posted by: Mav at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (+qU29)
There's a comedian named Shane Gillis who does a very funny take on that speech including a fantastic impression of Trump. I was crying I was laughing so hard first time I heard it.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM
I've seen him in something, not sure what but OMG that's funny, I just watched it and his impression is spot on.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (77W69)
What a bunch of women.
Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (wGun1)
Is it really going to come this quickly? I think it may.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (E0p3T)
Don't want the president to have the authority to strike at terror targets anymore? Repeal the AUMF.
Until then, these strikes are perfectly legal and constitutional.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (Plbvm)
I hope all House Democrat candidates in 2026 campaign on impeaching PDT47 for bombing Iranian nuke facilities.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (i5Vkf)
Well if he has gotten religion, this would be a good time to pray and thank God.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (6ydKt)
I guess PDT really DID do it for shits and giggles.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (8sv0v)
Perhaps they should hold off until a disaster happens, well, unless they are talking about their election chances.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (jc0TO)
>> I don't care if the Elixir of Life is an ingredient, I don't eat godless commie ice cream.
I understand, but ice cream is a weakness of mine and unfortunately they make the best.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Cosda at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (NAQf7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (dDmld)
I'll give you something to blubber about, big boy.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (IG2sK)
I'm stealing that...
"First there was a mountain..."
Posted by: Donovan at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (rvwwT)
Posted by: Mav at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)
__________________________
Dude!!!! Shhhhhhhh.
Posted by: Luke Skywalker at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (dIske)
Jake Tapper
Gabe Malor
Ilham Nur
Rancid Tilapia
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (b7rtK)
I hope all House Democrat candidates in 2026 campaign on impeaching PDT47 for bombing Iranian nuke facilities.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (aBgBM)
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Let's don't be beastly to the Muzzies...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (r2ymA)
So. The. Fuck. What?! he spoke. he got the point across. The man probably has not had a full night's sleep in quite a while.
Why must he be some kind of glib, smooth Toastmasters speaker, with plenty of lip and tongue action?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Ann at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (4neFu)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (E0p3T)
I don't care if the Elixir of Life is an ingredient, I don't eat godless commie ice cream.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (QnmlO)
Every Ice cream company I really like are godless commies. McConnell's ice cream is my favorite but I saw they made a special pride flavor one year and oops, lost a customer.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (77W69)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (PGK1w)
And a wire rack.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (DIweC)
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (MZ+PY)
Jake Tapper would call for negotiations if his mother was on fire.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (NXz8h)
Jake Tapper
Gabe Malor
Ilham Nur
Rancid Tilapia
Posted by: Anna Puma
We need a bigger list.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (dR6yv)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (gAN4h)
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"All right. We'll call it a draw." -- The Black Knight
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (IBQGV)
Every Ice cream company I really like are godless commies.
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Lady, you need some Blue Bell, stat.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (alnxS)
It won't matter if they dig out the entrances because all the equipment will be radioactive junk. Which means Iran has to start again.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (r2ymA)
So. The. Fuck. What?! he spoke. he got the point across. The man probably has not had a full night's sleep in quite a while.
Why must he be some kind of glib, smooth Toastmasters speaker, with plenty of lip and tongue action?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)
I WANT my Prezzy to be a bit hesitant... and humble, when ordering men in to Combat...
It is actually something we've been missing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (mP0Kj)
I know that was true of chemjeff. Don't know if JSND ever took Gabe to the range.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (lUFok)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (VE6XX)
If Fordow is to be taken out it’s going to have to be taken out on the ground.
We will certainly have to wait for the BDAs. Regardless, the mullahs now know we're serious.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (Riz8t)
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Send in the Tesla bots!
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (uqyLy)
They probably think its on like Donkey Kong now.
But I will sleep easier tonight knowing that the crazy death cult guys can't make a nuclear weapon. As every sane person should tonight.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (gISzv)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (aOqEy)
Greatest President of my lifetime.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (XV/Pl)
Jake Tapper
Gabe Malor
Ilham Nur
Rancid Tilapia
Posted by: Anna Puma
We need a bigger list.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (dR6yv)
Yes. A GBU-57 is big enough we can strap a lot of cretins to each.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (IG2sK)
It won't matter if they dig out the entrances because all the equipment will be radioactive junk. Which means Iran has to start again.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (b7rtK)
Yup, the seismic shock... if the centrifuges were turning... turned them into junk...
Radioactive junk
.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (XV/Pl)
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I don't care if the Elixir of Life is an ingredient, I don't eat godless commie ice cream.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (QnmlO)
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I'll admit to missing Karamel Sutra. But Tillamook is sufficient.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (W/lyH)
It was perfectly obvi he was a Methodist.
Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Richard Simmons
LoL!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (PGK1w)
30 Gabe sure has come a long way hasn't he.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (36PRH)
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I think he hasn't changed at all, just doesn't lie as much as he used to.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (HLgI3)
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (MZ+PY)
That's what it was labeled as.
But yeah, after I looked at the second video closer, it did look like ships in the foreground, was difficlut to see.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (6ydKt)
The only problem with this strategy of "make it hurt until they cry uncle!" is that ... the Iranian regime is a death cult.
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I don't care if they're a death cult, I care what they're a death cult with.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (FZn/N)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: mindful webworker - classic moments at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (63lGh)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know
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I'll hit the go button when things slow down a bit. Pretty big news in play.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
I care. I hope she jumps.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (NXz8h)
I know that was true of chemjeff. Don't know if JSND ever took Gabe to the range.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
Oops. Yea, it was chemjeff.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (b7rtK)
Thank you for this.
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (AThW+)
The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.
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It must take work to be this stupid.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Prolix at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (I3xg0)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (viF8m)
They're just mad that PDJT didn't let them in on the operation (so that they could warn our enemies)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (XV/Pl)
Tempting.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (lUFok)
I am pretty sure he will inform Congress of what's happened within the next 45 days.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (6RwsA)
Some bitch on the CBC is talking about the suffering of the Iranians. I have one more beer left. I'll try to drag out tears then.
Wow, this bitch is something.
Can Ottawa, Toronto and a few other places be next?
Bitch on CBC "Iranians. Where is God for us right now?" Seriously. She actually said that.
Just to answer. Allah is busy building redhead virgins. Takes him a while and they are in demand...now.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (XV/Pl)
Penis. He means penis.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (FZn/N)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Democrats at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KtOUo)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (gKWVE)
LMAO
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: pookysgirl notices the important things at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (XV/Pl)
"Prometheus"?
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (KRtlO)
It is actually something we've been missing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (mP0Kj)
Nonono, the President is supposed to be dreamy, reciting dialogue like an Aaron Sorkin character. Then when his juvenile foreign policy ends up getting Americans killed, we'll arrest a filmmaker or bomb an innocent family in retaliation and everyone will cheer!
Posted by: The MSM at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (aqZN1)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (viF8m)
Dude.
Al Gore did NOT invent the internet.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (viF8m)
I understand what you're saying but I'm still gonna boycott Gillette, Disney, and Bud Light.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (6ydKt)
The only problem with this strategy of "make it hurt until they cry uncle!" is that ... the Iranian regime is a death cult.
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I don't care if they're a death cult, I care what they're a death cult with.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (QnmlO)
The American Declaration of Independence was based on the idea that a People had both a Right and a DUTY, to change their government if it was not doing what they wanted.
Making the Iranian citizen NOT be held accountable for their Government... destroys the very base of that premise.
Sorry Iranians... you voted for these ass hats... and have put up with them for year... Reap? Sow.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (mP0Kj)
And the Dems are already talking about impeachment...
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Go ahead. Rant, rave, file article after article of impeachment. Show America you're on the short end of a 95-5% issue.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KRtlO)
Are you kidding? I've made bigger muu muu tents for Hillary!
Posted by: Omar The Muu Muu Maker at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (0eaVi)
Jake Tapper
Gabe Malor
Ilham Nur
Rancid Tilapia
Posted by: Anna Puma
We need a bigger list.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (dR6yv)
Just tie them up and put them into the B-52 bomb bays. Drop them into Iran to generally screw things up, because that's what their best at.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (S/Y4j)
They call each other like women going to a dinner party?
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Jakes Tapper at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (HEStL)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (IG2sK)
BDA is always difficult unless you have good Humint like the Israelis do so we shall have to wait and see what happens next.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: My Delta name is Miklos at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (UYy+W)
It is actually something we've been missing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (mP0Kj)
Best president in my lifetime. Prayers for him and all every night. He did not take this lightly in a fit of anger.
Or revenge of his father like GWB, whom I used to like and can't stand now.
Or chicken out like HWB and not follow through.
Or give Iran pallets of cash like Obamgo and Bidet to further their cause and probably receive money for it.
None of the in-laws better mess with me tomorrow!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (6PCLE)
i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO)
TBF, he seemed reasonable. Not loopy. Right up 'til he got loopy.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (0aYVJ)
lol well you meant well Ace!
anyhoo... so yay! no more sciencey playtime for the mullahs hmm?
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Jen the original at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (PvNui)
*getting ready for Club ONT!*
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (6RwsA)
I'd wager its programmed into the flight computers... so its not that bad for the crew.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (mP0Kj)
Jake Tapper would call for negotiations if his mother was on fire.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (Riz8t
Or mid penetration....
Trying to figure out the root causes....
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (jvJvP)
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Yea... there are videos of some tests done with the GBU-57 and the B-2 sort of lurches upward. Not significantly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (Q4IgG)
everything you said Christy - but this is so key
he really did think it over, I believe.
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (XV/Pl)
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I bet we have satellites and drones and stuff having a look see right now
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (aOqEy)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (ynpvh)
Was FDR impeached for ordering our P-40s to shoot down German Stukas over Pearl Harbor on December 7th, without a Congressional Declaration of War?
Posted by: Senator Blutarsky at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (E0p3T)
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Every time some idiot lefty says "Trump is a felon", I remind them that Trump was acquitted by a jury of 77 million
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (pI9a0)
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (RIvkX)
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They've already whined to the UN once, and now they're considering writing a very stern letter.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Derek Smalls at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (GM3CZ)
Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (FZn/N)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)
Had not seen that until I watched the clip the other day. It's uncanny the way he can slip in and out of his dead-on "Trump voice."
Posted by: Just reporting at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (/I9MF)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (AOsQT)
I'll repaint that facility for only $9999. - Earl Scheib
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: lol at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (hKJwu)
>> Gore did NOT invent the internet.
I'm well aware. I was very involved in the early days of the internet and Gore was nowhere to be found.
But there sure were a lot of California liberals.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (mP0Kj)
Yeah, for sure. It's not like that's some kind of rare scenario that the engineers would overlook.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (qpyNK)
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You mean the ones Potatohead invited into our country, CBS?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (dDmld)
CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)
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CBS will never ask the obvious question, "How and when did they get here?"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (6PCLE)
/Fistbump...
Yeah, there are very good reason me and my Son do not even MENTION politics anymore.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (gKWVE)
You summoned me during Pride Month?!?
Posted by: Zombie John McCain at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (aqZN1)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (6RwsA)
You know how good it feels when you take a big dump?
It's kinda like that, only better.
Posted by: B-2 Pilot at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (i0F8b)
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Yea... there are videos of some tests done with the GBU-57 and the B-2 sort of lurches upward. Not significantly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (Q4IgG)
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The bomb doesn't weight 30,000lbs. It has the explosive potential of 30,000 lbs of TNT
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (pI9a0)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (FZn/N)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (6RwsA)
I'd wager its programmed into the flight computers... so its not that bad for the crew.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (mP0Kj)
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Basically the Giant Drop ride at Six Flags. *Weeeeee!*
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
He's gone full pussy. Never go full pussy.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: ace
Not checking the Urban Dictionary for "big tent".
Nope
Posted by: Prudential Miklos at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (UYy+W)
i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO
I'm taking a screenshot of ace posting on a Saturday at 10:23.
But on a good day.
But still.
I'm debating about the "Alien" movie now. Too keyed up.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Derek Smalls at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (GM3CZ)
We'll let the muslims in the UK handle that one once they go full Taliban.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (6ydKt)
ONT
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (ynpvh)
Presidents have been taking military action without prior Congressional approval since the Quasi War with France in the 1790s.
Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (GM3CZ)
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)
Iranian or CCP or klantifa?
I suppose my main Concern is what the Derp State would like to "accidentally" miss. OrangeManBad has been doing a lot of housecleaning but I'm sure there's plenty of asshoes still embedded.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (ULPxl)
Allah: because you suck
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Not Billy Sol Hurok at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (fI8lb)
Posted by: JQ
Lotta drinks gonna be on the house tonight!
(prepares comfy spot to pass out in)
Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (/y8xj)
It was probably prearranged all the way back in January. "Listen, Pete, I love the blue suit thing you've got going on, it's great, but when you stand behind me when I'm at the podium, I need you to wear a BLACK suit. Okay? BLACK. Black like your ex-sister-in-law's heart. Terrible woman..."
Posted by: pookysgirl knows how this works at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (36PRH)
https://x.com/renatogbbr/status/1936592309681828108
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (thSzh)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (QnmlO)
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Reporting for duty 🫡
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (79pEw)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO)
I'm sure you made the best decision you could, based on the information at hand.
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (AThW+)
Posted by: Anonymyklos at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (xcxpd)
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OH IT'S ON!!!
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (pI9a0)
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Like, Korea?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (CDb2z)
Posted by: Miklos
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A thing to be concerned about, but it's just the way things are, and must be dealt with.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (XeU6L)
That kind of wide open forum still exists here today. And it's the last of its kind I'm aware of.
Ace takes a lot of shit and gives back as good.
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (r2ymA)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (pI9a0)
_______________________
A MOAB weights about 10 tons. A B2 can handle in excess of about 40,000 lbs of payload (or just over 20 tons).
Posted by: Luke Skywalker at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (qpyNK)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (AThW+)
>> Gore did NOT invent the internet.
I'm well aware. I was very involved in the early days of the internet and Gore was nowhere to be found.
But there sure were a lot of California liberals.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (viF8m)
Its actually funny... but... I was part of IEEE, the governing body of Internet protocols for years...
You could find my real name on multiple Request for Comment (RFC) submissions... as I was working for an IT security software firm... dealing with how to discover rogue devices on your network...
So when some young asshole says, if you don't like the internet go invent yer own? Shit child... I helped create THIS ONE.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Not Billy Sol Hurok at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (fI8lb)
It's buried under a literal mountain of rubble.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (i0F8b)
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Translation: BUT MUH MULLAHS
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Shiv-free Miklos at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (UYy+W)
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Like, Korea?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (RIvkX)
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Ukraine?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO
Fucking Lamont.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (xzkgE)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (XeU6L)
That's because
someone left the cake out in the rain....
and it took so long to bake it
I don't think I can take it
I may never have that recipe again
OH NO'SSSSS
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (r2ymA)
I take it as a sign of Respect, that Ace once threatened to Ban me... but didn't...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (mP0Kj)
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Translation: BUT MUH MULLAHS
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (E0p3T)
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"The US Constitution IS a suicide pact, h8r!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (nXhai)
Women seeing women wearing the same thing: "Awkward!"
Men seeing men wearing the same thing: "Hey, good taste!"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: ace
Don't ever change, dude. The free exchange of ideas and discussion is what keeps us whom we are. You provide a very bright light in the darkness and I am very grateful to you for that.
*hopes garrett doesn't get jealous easily*
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (MsrgL)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (AOsQT)
the world was better before the internet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (6PCLE)
To quote someone earlier: Trump doesn't start wars, he wins them.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (W/lyH)
One of the problems with eye in the sky BDA is when the site is literally buried. Humint aka spies can tell more about what the Iranian BDA assessment is.
My guess is that a bunch of af Intel types are poring over what the tech Intel is yielding though.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (ctrM5)
Oh. Goes looking for stuff to make a Chocolate Blackberry Ice Cream Smoothie.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (NXz8h)
"They probably think its on like Donkey Kong now." --Posted by: Defenestratus
There is that worrisome aspect, yes.
Posted by: Just reporting at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (/I9MF)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (AOsQT)
i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO)
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Am I the only one who read that as "Big Teat?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: Romeo13
So he isn't perfect then.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (pI9a0)
Fantastic. I'm on a smart military blog. And curious!
So how much do those bombs weigh? And if we are talking explosive potential, why didn't Israel have these if weight is less?
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (jvJvP)
There are no Walmarts in Iran.
Only Targets.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (qpyNK)
SNORT
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (AThW+)
In other words, the same as we've been dealing with since '79.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)
So I guess CBS thinks it's OK that they are here. Just have to kiss Iranian ass and play nice-nice so they won't get mean.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (W/lyH)
"They probably think its on like Donkey Kong now." --Posted by: Defenestratus
There is that worrisome aspect, yes.
Posted by: Just reporting at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (/I9MF)
The Iranian Regime is a Death Cult... but are the Iranian people?
Sorry... but you ARE responsible for your government... fix it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Shiv-free Miklos
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Ah. I thought that I heard the slight swish-swish of a shiv being diamond honed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (XeU6L)
>> Gore did NOT invent the internet.
I'm well aware. I was very involved in the early days of the internet and Gore was nowhere to be found.
But there sure were a lot of California liberals.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (viF8m)
Its actually funny... but... I was part of IEEE, the governing body of Internet protocols for years...
You could find my real name on multiple Request for Comment (RFC) submissions... as I was working for an IT security software firm... dealing with how to discover rogue devices on your network...
So when some young asshole says, if you don't like the internet go invent yer own? Shit child... I helped create THIS ONE.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (mP0Kj)
Really??? Whats up with AI and FACIAL RECOGNITION. Can I beat Facial Recognition. IS THERE A GROUP FIGHTING THIS? cAN i GET INVOLVED IN?
Askin for a friend... but really..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (gAN4h)
There are no Walmarts in Iran.
Only Targets.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (qpyNK)
/Golf Clap
Oh... well played!
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic
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Call up Gates of Vienna, they have photos and maps and all kinds of information
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Chaz at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (36PRH)
"Precision"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (6RwsA)
https://x.com/renatogbbr/status/1936592309681828108
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (thSzh)
Gonna have to ask Pooky on that one in the morning, he's in bed already and *hopefully* sleeping.
As always, prayers up for Pooky's old unit, as this stuff is their "thing."
Posted by: pookysgirl at June 21, 2025 10:40 PM (Wt5PA)
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Fun fact: the internet is a complex network of 'smart tubes'
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:40 PM (AOsQT)
Askin for a friend... but really..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (gAN4h)
bird has flown... sorry... we can't even get actual secure from the Government Email... we tried with the Dark Mail project.
Only way it to kill your cameras.... sometimes, physically with tape (as I have).
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (mP0Kj)
So I guess CBS thinks it's OK that they are here. Just have to kiss Iranian ass and play nice-nice so they won't get mean.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Look, appeasement is the best diplomatic approach.
Posted by: Barky at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (XeU6L)
Conservatives were lectured for decades we had to accept certain mainstream ideas like open borders, killing babies and becoming communists, to "win" with voters.
Then when it turned out it was OUR ideas that were "winning" with voters, the Big Tent lecturers mysteriously folded up their tent and went home.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)
So I guess CBS thinks it's OK that they are here. Just have to kiss Iranian ass and play nice-nice so they won't get mean.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (W/lyH)
It makes perfect sense though. They (CBS et al) didn't seem to have a problem with all the sleepers getting in.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (8hxDK)
Posted by: ...
I wonder if we will ever learn what agency or contractor the shooter worked for.
(Just kidding! No I don't).
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)
More projection.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (E0p3T)
"Precision"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (Q4IgG)
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So? I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.
Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:44 PM (E0p3T)
"Precision"
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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In the vid, I find the sudden exhaust/expulsion on the left side of the frame interesting. Access tunnel?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (XeU6L)
Bartender, I'll have a double of what Dworkin is drinking and send him one from our table.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)
Yes.
Yes they will.
They may agree to negotiate but they are not defeated. They still have a vote in this deal. And as the regime assesses it's options, they will strike back if for no other reason than to demonstrate to the rest of the world that they can.
How?
More missiles in Israel.
Terror attacks in the region.
Terror attacks elsewhere in the world.
Terror attacks in the US.
Pick one. An asymmetric response of some kind is coming.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (W/lyH)
***
I'm just happy to see you reach 40%. Best wishes for the rest of the journey.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: pookysgirl, pulling out the big needles at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (Wt5PA)
In all the old familiar places
In that small cafe
In every lovely summer's day
in everything that's light and gay
All the goats along the way
I'll be looking at your moon
And I'll be. seeing you
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (36PRH)
That reminds me of a great (imo) Family Guy bit calling out that moment:
https://youtu.be/DHawudR4yRE?si=CMkbdhCy13BoiTH8
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (8hxDK)
Sorry... but you ARE responsible for your government... fix it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (mP0Kj)
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A large portion of the Iranian populations was on the verge of revolting against the Mullahs (2010 I think?). The famous retard Obama could have supported the Iranian people with nothing but mere words, but he acted like it was some kind of election and that he would support the winners.
The regime has guns, tanks and helicopters, the people have rocks...
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (pI9a0)
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They always forget to cover the thermal exhaust port.
Posted by: Adm. Akhbar at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)
You're telling me! The press been shitting themselves all night. I'm having a heck of a workout in the outhouse.
Posted by: Cob at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (mP0Kj)
Yeah thats fugged up....
Hey now is your chance to become a billionaire!
Invent something maybe a MAGA hat that can zap all cameras.. Hey wait I just invented my own solution. Rayban has camera infused sunglasses that have facial recognition and relay the info to the wearer. every bit of personal info.. thats fucked up shite!!!
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (gAN4h)
Israel is working on it.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (CDb2z)
Ah yes, because we occasionally find fault with those politicians, we were instead supposed to root for the "death to America" side. How could we have made this grave error? We should all make our bluesky accounts now so we can be flagellated as fascists by the mentally ill, deranged retards over there.
Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (aqZN1)
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Small world. My mom worked for IEEE for years.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (3ImbR)
No, but LIBs on their behalf definitely will.
LIBs not only Proudly Sponsor our Adversaries, but actively defend them as well.
They will be the FIRST into the bunkers, not because they Value their own Lives, but rather, to displace those who actually do.
LIBs. What Price their Vision?
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-JustDeserts
Remember who actually CAUSED this:
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other potential adversaries around the world that they can change our policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93 just before he pulled out of Somalia.
To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09 after doing PRECISELY THAT
But I always promised the American people that I will be straight with you. (riteo) ... This is not in our national security interest.
-- IceKINGJoe
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-forWARd
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-ReignOverTheRubble
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (TXfgk)
Posted by: Slim Pickens at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (PzyjV)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (NXz8h)
Me: cuz that's his name and job title? That's all I got.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (NXz8h)
Me: cuz that's his name and job title? That's all I got.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (NXz8h)
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Sounds Unconstitutional to me ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (IQ6Gq
Thank you so much. Extra points today for the Iran bombing!!
And my living situation may be solved soon. Cost me a lot, but peace and quiet for 2 years would be sweet.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (DNJiU)
Fucking AutoPen.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Slim Pickens at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (PzyjV)
I'd agree to it if the district judges are forced to do all of the labor.
Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (aqZN1)
C3po: He tricked me into taking this path... but he'll fair no better.
Burn after Reading:: Evil's Triumph Over Conscience:
Why the West Gives Yasser Arafat (and their LIB enablers) Endless Second Chances
http://www.peacewithrealism.org/recread/doidge.htm
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (NHTZ3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (XeU6L)
She shares that opinion with a strong 30% of the Commenters on Right Wing You Tube.
Some retards will believe anything.
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (W05dk)
I thank GOD for President Trump, VP Vance, and their cabinet. For a President who took the oath of office seriously and wants to end terrorism.
For the first time in over 40yrs we have a President who puts us first vs the Euroweenie's Club or any stupid poll.
For those who keep saying Iran did not have nukes, then were the mullah's bluffing that they did this week??? You bluff, we bomb!
Also, Mosaad had infiltrated and knows what is going on.
Tomorrow there will be screeching from Dims, people who claim to be MAGA, Europeans, Canadians, and the UK. Possibly from the Middle East. Maybe everyone, even Antartica. I don't care. It has needed to be done for over 40yrs.
I would rather poke my eyes out with a red hot knife than watch tv tomorrow. The shrieking will be deafening.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 11:19 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM
Thanks. I will.
Lost a lot this year. I lost all my family. Mom passed. Brother went insane and kept my living situation jacked around for 5.5 months. Once I regroup, I'll be a much better member of the Horde
I, and Mom, have been Horde worthy to my friends and neighbours. I have done stuff. The Horde would be proud. We have been wonderful but DUDE, they have been so great to me.
Soon, I'm back.
Fuck it....42%
It's been a good Day.
It's weird to have an American President that cares about America and her citizens.....says a Canadian....
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (jvJvP)
TRUMP: US BOMBERS HAVE HIT THREE IRANIAN NUKE SITES INCLUDING FODROW
According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were. heh
Posted by: Tonypete
JUST IN: Fox News' Jennifer Griffin says the B-2 bombers heading to Guam were a distraction to keep all eyes "looking west."
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) June 22, 2025
"It's notable how much deception was involved in this operation. All eyes were looking west towards Guam..."
"The 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs were… pic.twitter.com/X7jnExPoWJ
🚨 FOX PENTAGON REPORTER: "In my 18 years at the Pentagon, I've never seen such operational security.
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) June 22, 2025
There were NO LEAKS. NOBODY speaking about this. A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days."
GREAT JOB, @SecDef Hegseth! 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/AnDZ1i8uLz
Dear Iran,
— Buzz Patterson (@BuzzPatterson) June 22, 2025
This is for storming our embassy and kidnapping our diplomats.
This is for the US Marines that were killed in Beirut.
This is for the 600+ Americans you have killed.
This is for Hezbollah.
This is for Hamas.
This is for the Houthis.
Fuck you.pic.twitter.com/3jPxbXu8m4
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (qKioJ)
Posted by: mot at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (ytKo6)
We had B-2s inside hangers in Diego Garcia, with the right weaponry and tanker support.
This is positive OPSEC, for the win.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Alana at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (lTWLu)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (qKioJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Goddessoftheclassroom at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (USyCi)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (tuLbh)
Mullahs: We'll never make a deal.
Trump: OK, guess I'll save myself two weeks then.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (pkLWe)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Kooky C. Tarlson at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (zW3tl)
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (EtZ9h)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: NJRob at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (Ce7wD)
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (vd6bO)
Posted by: Marvin the Martian at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: AFeralDuck at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (ZajzL)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (S/Y4j)
The fact that all of the planes did this and are safe is simply astounding.
Score three direct hits for the Freedom Doritos!
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (vbXSk)
You know, like those stupid Star War movies everyone loves.
Posted by: Star Wars For Real Bitches at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (EtZ9h)
Why lock down when you can deport?
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Strait of Hormuz at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (8iNlE)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (tuLbh)
Carlson can cry me a river
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (3ek7K)
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and those stupid donut-looking turbans, too
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (AOsQT)
@zerohedge
*TRUMP: COMPLETED SUCCESSFUL ATTACK ON 3 NUCLEAR SITES IN IRAN
*ISRAEL NOTIFIED BY TRUMP ADMIN BEFORE US STRIKING IRAN: AXIOS
@zerohedge
*TRUMP: WILL ADDRESS NATION AT 10:00 P.M
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (Dnobf)
I thought Trump was cannier than this. His wait two weeks was a great play to avoid getting involved.
I will agree with Awaken with JP from the other day when he said that even if Trump made what he disagreed with, he's not going to dump him because Trump is on his side 95% of the time. He also said, mebbe Trump knows something he doesn't.
A bit bummed out. Or mebbe that's bombed out.
Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (q7Vou)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (u73oe)
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic
Lock down? Nope, complete destruction of our enemies is the only path to a lasting peace.
Posted by: Marvin the Martian at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (cYBz/)
We only had hanger space in Diego Garcia for a few B-2s. The climate there does terrible things to the stealth coatings. Last month we returned most of the B-2s to Missouri.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (tuLbh)
I'm guessing extended war will be conducted by Israel, we just (hopefully) set back Iran's efforts for a nuke by a few years, or perhaps enhanced regime change. The new regime would (hopefully) be chosen by the majority of Iranian people, not the terrorist regime.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (b1aqf)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (e5NfL)
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (EtZ9h)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (b1aqf)
Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (IG7T0)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Jaxso at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (++vng)
Bomb bomb bomb
Bomb bomb Iran
Bomb bomb bomb
Bomb bomb Iran
Bomb bomb bomb
Bomb bomb Iran
Bomb Ira-a-an...
Baby bomb Iran...
You got the rubble bouncin',
The Mulllahs got a trouncin'
Bomb Iran
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (qpyNK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (tuLbh)
I've always assumed that all of Iran looks vaguely like Mordor.
I mean, I know that's wrong, but that's just my mental image.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (jGGMD)
Will they kill 1000 or 10,000 and then what happens to a free America.
Think COVID but Tampon Tims police state not firing paintballs but ball ammo.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (L3c0T)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Muddy Waters and the B2s at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Some stupid with a flaregun at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (CfaEa)
The Dems will no doubt insist that July be designated Pride make up month.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (FCPbW)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (3Ope8)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Common Tater
As Aetius451AD surmised, an earth-shattering Kaboom.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (cYBz/)
That said, they are called 'stealth bombers'. Deny or deflect.
Oops.
Too Late.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (/lPRQ)
Will they kill 1000 or 10,000 and then what happens to a free America.
Think COVID but Tampon Tims police state not firing paintballs but ball ammo.
Posted by: rhennigantx
What happens? I put my terrorist hunting permit sticker back on my truck and go a'hunting.
Sucks to look like a goatfucker at that point.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (qKioJ)
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (FCPbW)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (vm8sq)
When it absolutely positively HAS to be destroyed overnight, accept no substitute.
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (b1aqf)
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (vd6bO)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: GEOTUS at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (i24o9)
GBU-57s and a lot of wishes for world peace, but mostly GBU-57s.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (Riz8t)
Nowadays, it's rabbit bashing or WWI with drones.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (u82oZ)
https://youtu.be/r64GxYmFS1M
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (S/Y4j)
Better than my version.
Recommended.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (qpyNK)
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well, when you come to a fork in the road, take it
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (Riz8t)
There's only one bomb that could take out Fordow and only one plane that can carry it and both of them happen to belong to the USA.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: runne
yeah it is funny to see what AIPAC did to itself with this hit
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (toQ1t)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (b1aqf)
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Maybe they kept the receipt....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (IG2sK)
..........
While Obama and Valarie are crying in their soup. Good
Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (j/yko)
Sucks to be them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (3ek7K)
That should snap a few people back to reality.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (/lPRQ)
To watch his legacy get GBU'd off the face of the planet.
Valerie Jarret also can get f*cked.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (Aoykm)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (jGGMD)
It is a truly joyless place today. Not like under the Shah, when there were beaches full of gorgeous Persian chicks in bikinis.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (qpyNK)
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (toQ1t)
Posted by: Xi Jinping at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (w/5xj)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (IG2sK)
..........
While Obama and Valarie are crying in their soup. Good
Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (j/yko)
While Bolton and the other neocons had been sidelined a long time ago.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 08:46 PM (i24o9)
Sucks to be them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (u82oZ)
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That's basically the carrot President Trump has been dangling in front of all the troublesome countries.
Change your behavior and the world's your oyster.
Or reject that choice and suffer the consequences of your decision.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:46 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:46 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: EveR at June 21, 2025 08:46 PM (Z/h4+)
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (FCPbW)
If they like the Iranian government so much, we could maybe set up a bonus round of throwing people off buildings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (qpyNK)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (vFG9F)
The reason I joined the military in 82 was because of Iran and the failed rescue mission. It’s about time.
And in my time in the service, the USSR folded.
*Buffs fingernails on Nomex fire-fighting outfit.*
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)
And during gay pride month too.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (ynpvh)
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That's called projection.
Look at what's happened. The B2s over the Pacific were a headfake to let Iran think it had more time than it did.
The same way the stories about Trump and Netanyahu arguing about Israel's airstrikes were.
This was always the plan. Iran giving up its nukes peacefully was the unlikely plan B.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (Dnobf)
It is a truly joyless place today. Not like under the Shah, when there were beaches full of gorgeous Persian chicks in bikinis.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (qpyNK)
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With shaved armpits too I bet.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: JackStraw
Call the UN and report one stolen
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (qKioJ)
Obama gave them pallets of cash. Ergo, dropping big bombs on their heads (and nuke facilities) is absolutely correct. QED
Queue Beach Boys…. Bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran 🎶
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (WdMlw)
We had B-2s inside hangers in Diego Garcia, with the right weaponry and tanker support.
This is positive OPSEC, for the win.
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And calm Chyna down.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Boss Moss
The biggest ass Air Force rec tents money can buy.
You know what that means? Air Conditioning !
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)
Don't make us bring out the comfy chair.
Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (toQ1t)
Oh go f*ck the hell off.
The American people are sick of Iran's sh*t. 79% of the American people said that Iran should never have a nuclear weapon.
I love the moral equivalence of the Al-Carlsons who think that dropping a handful of bombs on Iran is the same as launching a modern D-Day in the Strait of Hormuz.
If I were a betting man, I'd say that our *kenetic* involvement is done now - except in the case of reprisals which, I'd be surprised if there's anything left for them to reprise with.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (Aoykm)
Yeah, I'll admit I'm ANGRY that it took us 42 Years to finally strike back for the crap we went through in Beirut in 83.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (IG2sK)
All right, I am going to put an end to this discussion, because there is nothing to discuss. On my way home from the gym, I popped into Bad Billy's looking for a man I was hoping was in the bathroom. I had a quick sherry with my French polisher and then I left. As for how I got into another man's shorts, that is no one's business!
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (u82oZ)
Who you calling underaged?!
Posted by: "Elliot" Page at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (jGGMD)
Luckily the Guam crash did not tip the island over.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (b7rtK)
K I S S I N G
Shelley G@ShelleyGldschmt
Look who personally accompanied anti-Israel activist Mahmoud Khalil back to NYC.
Yes. AOC. The rising star of the Democratic party.
This is who they are.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (HI5Mk)
You drop 15 tons and what do you get? Dead ayatollahs and the Persians upset.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (tuLbh)
Not to even MENTION the one Maverick Stole...
Flat out theft!
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (Aoykm)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)
The first day of a hot summer?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (j/yko)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
BOOM! Shake, shake, shake the room!
Posted by: Trump's walk-on music at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:51 PM (b1aqf)
You drop 15 tons and what do you get? Dead ayatollahs and the Persians upset.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (Riz8t)
Saint Peter don't ya call me, cause I can't go...
I owe my soul to the new Crusade store...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:51 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (viF8m)
I'll be damned!
Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (j/yko)
He did say "within two weeks."
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (jGGMD)
Huzzah! Thinking of putting "Helped win the Cold War" on my VA tombstone.
I'm am getting over being shy and retiring.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Defenestratus
Scene: A mansion in Kolarama. Some jug eared Islamic shill and Pride Parade Queen is is weeping and screaming into his pillow, "My legacy was destroyed by a real estate agent. From Queens!"
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (w/5xj)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (IG2sK)
I'm not surprised. Trump was never going to be caught in office when Iran announced they had a nuke. he's too proactive. He was always going to strike first.
I just hope it's not another Iraq with boots on the ground
Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (wGun1)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
BOOM! Shake, shake, shake the room!
Posted by: Trump's walk-on music at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (DgGvY)
Might I suggest...
Boom Boom, out go the lights?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (mP0Kj)
You load 16 tons, and what to you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
St. Peter don't you call me cause I can't go,
I owe my soul to the Ayatollah.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: zooomzooom at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (KF/1Z)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (b1aqf)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (dDmld)
Luckily the Guam crash did not tip the island over.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (b7rtK)
Air Disasters had an episode on that. A sensor got moisture in it which affected the sensor.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (36PRH)
Iran declared war against the United States in 1979 with chants of "Death to America" and the seizure of the American embassy. Then there was Beirut.
I would trade all those Marines for your worthless lives.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (SRRAx)
POTUS: Sorry hun, I got a bit carried away..
Melania: Warn me the next time you’re going to give me the full Commander In Chief!!
Posted by: SnakePlizzken at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (G0Od/)
Feels like: the surface of the Sun
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (qpyNK)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (u82oZ)
No Canadian stations are bothering.
I'd think this would be BIG News. Sorry it came on your day off assholes.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (jvJvP)
The American people are sick of Iran's sh*t. 79% of the American people said that Iran should never have a nuclear weapon.
I love the moral equivalence of the Al-Carlsons who think that dropping a handful of bombs on Iran is the same as launching a modern D-Day in the Strait of Hormuz.
If I were a betting man, I'd say that our *kenetic* involvement is done now - except in the case of reprisals which, I'd be surprised if there's anything left for them to reprise with.
Posted by: Defenestratus
it is nice how you have the ability to think its fine that hardly anybody , even Trump voters, supported this, but they did it anyway
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (ET1ES)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (tuLbh)
My Jewish neighbors and my youngest kiddos ' BFF (also, orthodox) are locked and loaded. I pray no one tries anything stupid...
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (tubbA)
Posted by: Fordow's lab staff, doing some quick calculations on how long the air will last at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (u82oZ)
Tell me about it, lol.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (2myyY)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
Doing the Brazilian before Brazil was even a country.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (/lPRQ)
We just poked something we should not have. If you have a son or daughter in Iraq, make sure you call them. Nothing good is going to come out of this, Bibi successfully bullied TACO into a war.
This is how he's gonna get the Nobel peace prize? More like the war prize
He's in demented tantrum mode. I’m guessing this is his reaction to the No Kings protests.
Maybe it's the result of the crappy parade. He was humiliated by the parade so he had to stick his wiener out and bomb someone.
Will today be the official start of WW 3, then? Our mushroom dick Cheetos face comb over shit brain just couldn't control himself
I don't think there will be significant retaliation. I would think the main goal of the regime is to simply survive. The Iranian people may decide to take matters into their own hands, it’s been bubbling for quite a while now.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (ycI94)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (/i7JT)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (+qU29)
-- me
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (b1aqf)
Sitting down here in StratCom's backyard . . . Four jets went directly above the apartment building late yesterday afternoon. It's hotter than the hinges of Hell here, so I didn't bother to look to see if it was actually four jets or just a pilot practicing up and downs. Usually when I hear jets, it's in the distance, but these four were directly over head. The cats were thoroughly pissed off by the time the fourth went over.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (5Aycr)
I won't stand for this kind of calumny.
*sits down*
There, that's better. Also, I think you've given Jean Francois short shrift.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (Riz8t)
Thank you for exposing your lack of cognitive ability and the latest drivel from the Left.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (ycI94)
whoa, Whoa, WHOA!! Intelligence at DU??
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (i0F8b)
I don't know what polls you were looking at but I haven't seen one where a majority didn't want Trump to take action against Iran.
If people are real upset then they don't have to vote for Trump in 2028.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)
Me either. Figured it would be another 48 hours.
OK.
Here we go.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Emperor Norton at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (63Dwl)
You can thank Hillary in large part for what you call Plan B being unlikely.
I would have said to the Israelis is I was the POTUS 'hey, guys if this is so so so important, then why not you nuke it yourself'. Of course, no one is going to do that. Which is why my earlier thought is not projection.
Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (q7Vou)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
They really do think a lot of themselves, don't they?
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (ET1ES)
Nonsense.
Over 80% of Americans agree that Iran can NOT be allowed to get nuclear weapons.
Now go off in the corner and cry like the little liebot bitch that you are.
Adults are trying to talk here.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (qpyNK)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (NztoB)
Iran declared war against the United States in 1979 with chants of "Death to America" and the seizure of the American embassy. Then there was Beirut.
I would trade all those Marines for your worthless lives.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (b7rtK)
Some of us who call for America to pull back? It's not because we don't want America to be decisive and strong.. it's because we are deployed in way too many places with way too much strength... to actually be effective where we need to be...
Our strength is frittered away in Africa, and Syria... and Iraq... and used to be in Afghanistan... in conflicts that had not much to do with us...
While Allowing Actual enemies, like China, and Iran... to flourish.
Europe has declared itself against our Bill of Rights... South Korea would kick the shit out of North Korea...
So why do we still have 10's of thousands of our troops there?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:59 PM (mP0Kj)
Like all leftists, n relies on loaded questions and other logical fallacies to make his arguments.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)
The 509th solved the sensor probe problem two years prior but never actually wrote it down to get official approval.
So several of the air data sensors were reading out of alignment. Why? Because this B-2 was left out in the rain. The crew called in a technician to recalibrate the sensors. Once this was the done, the crew went through the pre-flight check list and selected pitot tube re-heat. As the Spirit was rotating at takeoff it departed controlled flight.
The re-heat knocked the air data sensors out of alignment again which caused bad data to get fed to the air data computer. So classic GIGO and adios one $2 billion bomber.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:59 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:59 PM (tuLbh)
Man, Trump is the master troller. Who would have ever thought one of the greatest attributes of a good/great president would be the ability to troll one's enemies.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (XMwZJ)
How are you doing, darling?
I would expect the nuke sniffer aircraft to be on the move. And maybe some airborne command posts.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Trump's walk-on music at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (DgGvY)
Might I suggest...
Boom Boom, out go the lights?
Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (2myyY)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (ycI94)
1 of 7 ain't bad. Leaflet that crap out Iran followed by AK drops. Get your house in order, and you can rebuild in peace.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (Riz8t)
Dang!
Somebody was able to get into Newark???
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (uyIjy)
Because if Iran had given up, they'd be left alone.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (NwfFc)
I just keep my mouth shut. I do not engage. As do a few of the other guys in the office. Just let him bellow for a while. Eventually he adjourns to his office and shuts the door.
Sigh.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (7v6oI)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (jGGMD)
.........
Well aware. Usually #2 weeks means never!
Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (j/yko)
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (ET1ES)
Nonsense.
Over 80% of Americans agree that Iran can NOT be allowed to get nuclear weapons.
Now go off in the corner and cry like the little liebot bitch that you are.
Adults are trying to talk here.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (qpyNK)
----
Even IF n is right about polls not supporting this (he's spectacularly wrong), foreign policy is NOT a popularity contest. A leader will do the right thing, even when it's not popular because it's the necessary thing to do at that time. President Trump is a leader, not a high school cheerleader worried about being nominated Prom Queen.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (IBQGV)
I will give him two weeks to change his shitty attitude.
Posted by: Donald Trump at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: steevy at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (YwEeS)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (i0F8b)
Now that those three facilities are not operational, we can resume negotiations.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (DNJiU)
Did I need to embolden "at all costs" or what? I am taking aim at the opportunistic retards who are angling for the grift.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (W/lyH)
____
Not to mention outright lies.
Posted by: n-tifa the nitwit at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (b1aqf)
Because those people want to see the destruction of the US.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (NztoB)
No, no, no! No more! Not this time, Consigliere! No more meetin's! No more discussions! No more Valerie Jarrett tricks! You give 'em one message, I want the weird beards gone. If not, it's all-out war, we go to the B-52 Arc Lights.
Posted by: President Donald J. Trump, Shot Caller With All The Keys at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (WdMlw)
Posted by: Lurker in Garland at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (nUO4/)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (NztoB)
Kind of a different message than they were reporting yesterday, focusing on Libya.
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/415325.php
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (xekrU)
Right on queue.......
Posted by: zooomzooom
For when it absolutely, positively has to get there on time.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (b7rtK)
I will give him two weeks to change his shitty attitude.
Posted by: Donald Trump at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (KRtlO)
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (b1aqf)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (wGun1)
'I just hope it's not another Iraq with boots on the ground'
It won't be that because Trump wouldn't send anything beyond special forces.
I'm worried it will turn into a multi-year super Syria.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (sbC1+)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (b1aqf)
----
Yeah, and Putin reportedly had asked Trump for time to get them out of harm's way.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (tuLbh)
Dr. Peter Venkman
Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (GM3CZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (NztoB)
Kind of redundant, no?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (i24o9)
I will give him two weeks to change his shitty attitude.
Posted by: Donald Trump at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (KRtlO)
Just let me know, so I can take an early lunch.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (q7Vou)
Are you retarded?
You're saying you expected Trump to take a position because that's what you'd do if you were President. That's literally what projection is.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (EVFZ5)
Over 80% of Americans agree that Iran can NOT be allowed to get nuclear weapons.
Now go off in the corner and cry like the little liebot bitch that you are.
Adults are trying to talk here.
Posted by: Rodrigo
it is that 80 % of Americans , have the abilitty to hold to competing, contradictory, thoughts simultaneously, which is somethig hq commenters forerly had an ability for
Have fun watching what comes next with this
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (MqKOn)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (WdMlw)
You've been Thunder Struck!!!!
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (7v6oI)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Eric2
You...seem almost disappointed that this didn't turn into a nuclear attack.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (/y8xj)
Somebody was able to get into Newark???
Somebody wanted to?
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (/y8xj)
End of times?
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (vTjXb)
But you *are* so senile you missed what Trump has said several times in the last week: no boots on the ground, no regime change by us, just taking out the nukes.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (NztoB)
Have fun watching what comes next with this
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (MqKOn)
Careful, you're approaching Mary Cloggenstein levels of coherence.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (u82oZ)
You're saying you expected Trump to take a position because that's what you'd do if you were President. That's literally what projection is.
Posted by: Methos "
It's the main reason I didn't vote for Eric2.
Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Admiral Kazansky at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (aaSro)
We will. With bourbon and cigars. And a solemn memory of the Marines...
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (tubbA)
Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (wGun1)
'He's in demented tantrum mode. I’m guessing this is his reaction to the No Kings protests.'
These twats massively overestimate their significance.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (GM3CZ)
Go tell Ilhan...I think she'll know.
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (oziVZ)
Posted by: Admiral Kazansky at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (aaSro)
they flew SERPERTINE... up a Canyon of course!
Because going Serpentine... makes yah SAFE!
Posted by: Draco Malfoy at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (62ILr)
Nope. We just broke the military threat and got out. As we should have done when you were throwing this slogan around.
Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (ju/6W)
Posted by: Boss Moss
---
It's been upgraded to MOP Thread
Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (GM3CZ)
GBU >>> GUB
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (KRtlO)
Iran has killed thousands of Americans since 1979 a d we've never responded strongly enough.
Time to end the Mullahs.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (/RHNq)
When Iran funded, trained, and allowed Oct 7th, they started a war. I have no doubt they had no idea what they started would come to this.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (W/lyH)
Iran has a lot of air space to defend.
Stealth bombers could have come in from the south, the east, the west, or even from Russia just to up the trolling.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (q7Vou)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (TjbCm)
What's next with this? Iran probably will fracture into multiple countries by tribe/ethnicity (primarily Kurdistan and Persia), the mullahs will swing from lampposts, and I'll have a cup of Iron Dome Coffee (thanks to whichever of my gray box friends here mentioned that it exists).
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (NztoB)
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (oziVZ)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (tuLbh)
Thing is? We all think of International Relations as being subject to negotiation...
It is not... it's a game of Poker... do you call? Do you bluff? or do you have a fuckin winning Hand.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (NztoB)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (62ILr)
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See what you miss when y'all are having too much fun?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (DNJiU)
Vintage Ace cruelty, on a Saturday night.
We truly are unworthy.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (jGGMD)
Note, Netanyahu kept saying, "Israel can do this without American help."
Which means he was in on what the US was going to do, most likely.
Operational security on this was marvelous.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (vTjXb)
But you *are* so senile you missed what Trump has said several times in the last week: no boots on the ground, no regime change by us, just taking out the nukes.
Posted by: Ian S.
That is purposely overlooked by the Brigade of Pearl Clutchers. I see the made up polls are being vomited out too.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (qgNn3)
Kind of a different message than they were reporting yesterday, focusing on Libya.
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/415325.php
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (xekrU)
They had an article on the main page, when I checked that one earlier in the day, basically claiming that Iran was winning and now was the time for the global south to rise up against the 'Zionist Axis'.
I'm guessing someone may be rethinking that take.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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It's been upgraded to MOP Thread
Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (GM3CZ)
GBU >>> GUB
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (i24o9)
***
Cigar time!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (62ILr)
Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (ju/6W)
Nukes are messy. The bunker-busters will do the same job without irradiating any of the extremely fine looking Persian ladies in that country.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (NztoB)
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (tubbA)
Mister President. Thank you for being a bold, decisive leader.
Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (b7rtK)
Vintage Ace cruelty, on a Saturday night.
We truly are unworthy.
This is how you know the real pros: they can make a lewd, graphic joke in the middle of a huge news story.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (nrfI8)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (p4NUW)
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We missed having you there so we talked about you behind your back!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (62ILr)
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (oziVZ)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (62ILr)
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See what you miss when y'all are having too much fun?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (IBQGV)
NoVAMoMe was really just misdirection to cover for the real op in Iran. Well done, morons.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025
I am so sorry I missed it.
Posted by: Piper
***********
So are we (that you missed it)
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Ya know, to tie this into the Movie Thread, this reminds me of the scene in Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan when Kirk and Spock deceive their enemies when speaking over an open channel. Spock said it would take days or weeks to fix the Enterprise, but really meant hours. Kirk, of course, understood the code but Khan did not.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b
It does now...
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (tubbA)
Maybe that's why those B-2s are at Guam.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (tuLbh)
If not, they better bring shovels.
Posted by: Crotalus Atrox at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (ogJ/j)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (b7rtK)
TL : DR it's Trump's fault
Posted by: Hick Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (fweVu)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others
The FAFO is strong with this one.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: troyriser at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (DPeYO)
Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (ju/6W)
He's evidently already given away the keys to the time machine.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (kLxtU)
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (KRtlO)
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I bet the Mullahs wish those protestors were in Iran right now.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (36PRH)
Which means he was in on what the US was going to do, most likely.
Operational security on this was marvelous.
It seems that Hegseth put the fear of God in the usual leakers. I can easily imagine him calling for a firing squad for them.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Diabeetus at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (SawFp)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (62ILr)
Jeez!!!
So what happens during the Texas MoMe???
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (IG2sK)
'foreign policy is NOT a popularity contest.'
I used to have the same attitude about W until he overextended our armed forces and pissed away our credibility bad enough for Obama to look good to the voters.
That bad an outcome is possible for Trump if he isn't careful.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (u82oZ)
Stealth bombers could have come in from the south, the east, the west, or even from Russia just to up the trolling.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (b7rtK)
Lots of Airspace... and... as someone who used to play in this very arena...
Lots of dead space due to Mountain ranges... Iran is NOT a flat country...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (mP0Kj)
No, I said more what I'd do, and how no one would do that.
Vote for me: One of my key plans is to make a 700 mile long, fifty mile wide freshwater lake on the Mexican border.
Also dissolve NATO.
Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (q7Vou)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (ju/6W)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon
Don't forget the StarLink minis... and extra batteries.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (GM3CZ)
There were NO LEAKS. NOBODY speaking about this. A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days.
You mean they didn't chat about it on the Signal messaging app?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (pIfcn)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (alnxS)
I've seen reports that enriching went into overdrive under cover of the pandemic, with the approval of the EU and other usual suspects.
How does the EU square the circle that they've decided nuclear power makes Gaia cry, but also that Iran must have it?
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (NztoB)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (IG2sK)
So... yeah... going straight ta hell for this comment...
It's a Win / Win?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (mP0Kj)
The US is bombing Iran. Things are getting better for me too.
Up to 40% Five point jump. The rest are on me. But this was sweet. Can't wait for the speech.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (jvJvP)
Resolved: No more nations get nuclear weapons. Anybody that tries gets bombed and/or invaded.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (zZSxi)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (b7rtK)
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Honestly, the media are so stupid I bet President Trump could pull off the same ploy with them. In fact, I would not all be surprised if he did it that way on purpose. The Israelis may have been in on the code.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Hick Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (fweVu)
It's one of the other sites.
Per Wiki, they say the MOP can only go 60 meters but Fardow is 80 meters.
All B-2s went to Fordow, the other sites were hit with sub launched Tomahawk missiles.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (NwfFc)
Posted by: steevy at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (YwEeS)
So was openly sending a couple of B-2s west across the Pacific, expected to take days to get to Diego Garcia to be in position to attack Fordow.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (aBgBM)
But the planes bombed Fordow, and tomahawks from subs for the other 2 sites, according to the WH.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (rvwwT)
There it is. A distraction in a war that's been happening for decades.
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (oziVZ)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (pIfcn)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (Riz8t)
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And I would back Hegseth 100% if he put someone who leaked such an operation against the wall after a court martial.
We've suffered fools who hate America long enough in the Pentagon.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (gAN4h)
I always have an ear out for what's happening at Offutt. I know I've given a couple of false reports of activity, which is why I didn't mention yesterday's jets. But it's really hard to ignore four jets skimming the rooftop.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (5Aycr)
From what I've read, Iran's anti-aircraft went to zero basically the first night of Israeli bombing. Having a mole inside the Iranian Revolutionary Guard probably helped with that, LOL.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (NztoB)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (u82oZ)
I've read that Iran sells 90% of its oil to China but that is only 10% of what China imports, so I assume the rest of what is going through the Strait of Hormuz is from other OPEC countries. I believe Iran has recently completed a pipeline to their best customer, but I'm not so sure the other vendors would be willing to deliver to Iran as middleman.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (ULPxl)
What I come to learn in the later parts of my life everything becomes a comedy routine.
Where the f' is Ted Koppel? I need Ted!
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (NXz8h)
They said the bombs are very accurate. They have GPS guidance in their noses and hit "within meters" of the target.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (Riz8t)
I wonder if that's partly what Col. McCormack's sacking was about.
I mean, he deserved it on his own terms, but maybe there was an element of "pour encourager les autres" in the DoD's response.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (jGGMD)
Abu died like a dog. We could hear him crying.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Rbastid at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (nh5Ve)
Yep, reason why the Shah went with the F-14. The AWG-9 is powerful enough to cover a lot of airspace, can track 24 targets, kill six of them, and vector other fighters like an AWACs to kill the others.
Which is why the Israelis dropped bombs on all those beautiful Persian Cats, because they were a serious threat.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (b7rtK)
According to Hannidiot on FOX now, we used 6 GBU-57s on Fordow. He said Trump told him that directly a few minutes ago.
Also used a bunch of Tomahawks to hit the other facilities.
The Western route stuff was all fakery, get everyone's eyes looking at the Pacific, which the real action was eastward.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (tT6L1)
R-13 Doctrine... now blow up every bridge, every factory, every Electricity plant, every road, every TV station, every radio station, all Port Facilities, every Oil Producing thing...
If they wish to act like 7th Century barbarians... then let them live like that.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (AOsQT)
Yeah I figured, Fordow is in the mountains. It's remote.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Bob Dornan at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (dIske)
I am pretty sure that he already paid for it.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (ZmEVT)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (fweVu)
I imagine there are still lots of AA sites throughout the country, but they have to know that the B-2s didn't go in unescorted, and that the first one to turn on their system gets smoked. Nobody wants to be the last one to die for a failing regime.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (NztoB)
To watch his legacy get GBU'd off the face of the planet.
Valerie Jarret also can get f*cked.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (WYStd)
Anyone seen her lately? Wouldn't it be sad if she had been on an international uh, business trip.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (ULPxl)
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Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Diabeetus at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (SawFp)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (tuLbh)
According to my AIPAC handler it's in the Bible somewhere.
Posted by: Senator Ted Cruz at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (JvRTK)
hah
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (KRtlO)
They know some things cause they've seen some things.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic
Could be - monumental jealousy between service branches is legendary.
Everyone wants a piece of the operational pie.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (TjbCm)
Glad to hear you and the XO are fine, for varying amounts of fine. I thank you yet again for attending our MoMeet lunch with Jewells45. That was timely.
I did speak at her Celebration of Life recently.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:21 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Fodrow at June 21, 2025 09:21 PM (ZmEVT)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:21 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:21 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (oziVZ)
Posted by: Josephistan
A late entry for the threadwinner contest.....
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (7v6oI)
Posted by: steevy at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (YwEeS)
So was openly sending a couple of B-2s west across the Pacific, expected to take days to get to Diego Garcia to be in position to attack Fordow.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (aBgBM)
Hmmm.. it was two days ago when Iran said they would not negotiate without the Israelis stopping the bombings...
Trump lost his patience... said... go.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (NztoB)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (b7rtK)
Probably Isfahan.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (Plbvm)
pro-iran rioters in penn station
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079
Posted by: ace
But who will make the sandwiches?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (XeU6L)
According to my AIPAC handler it's in the Bible somewhere.
They can't help but reveal themselves.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (fweVu)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (62ILr)
I did speak at her Celebration of Life recently.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (u82oZ)
Salty, that's good to hear. Wish I'd had the chance to meet her before she went. Was it a pretty good ceremony?
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Rbastid at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (nh5Ve)
In the event of Post Nuclear Apocalypse we immediately move to seize the studded leather clothing factories. It is known from the documentaries from the '80s that all post apocalyptic clothing will be studded leather.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (pIfcn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (oziVZ)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (7v6oI)
Yeah... accordin to my Navy Nuc School Edumucation (although I never did graduate... I did attend)...
Not much... all the shit was buried already...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (TjbCm)
Just for the record, this is upsetting my plans to finally see "Alien." On Disney+. Never saw it.
I have seen "Aliens" a few times. Newt is the best. Still friends with Weaver. Schoolteacher now. And there is a great Aliens fandom wiki out there.
How can I start a kick ass movie before President Trump speaks? About being kick ass....
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Jim at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (DcE5z)
The World and Ragheads were watching Guam and we hit them from Diego !!!!!!
Posted by: Ghost of George Patton at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (1RZQV)
Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (IG7T0)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (b7rtK)
I'd rather see them put in charge of paint colors and flooring in DoD facilities. It's harder to screw that up in a way that affects combat effectiveness.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (S/Y4j)
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079
Posted by: ace
Iran. They Ran. We all ran !
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (yjTHn)
IIRC each of these SSGNs can carry 144 Tomahawks. So yeah this one submarine could really give Beijing a bad day.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (b7rtK)
Remember a few months ago when they tried to retaliate against Israel and it was mostly a harmless shower of missiles taken out by the iron dome?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (6RwsA)
B-1's are okay, but they are no B-52.
Actually? There are two flying B-29's still out there. It would be beyond insulting if Trump had borrowed one to drop the bunker-buster.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (2myyY)
Plenty of targets to go around.
I saw people on X laughing about a JV Last article for The Bullwank about how we must all hide illegals in our attics like Anne Frank, for they are truly the best of us.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (NztoB)
Sorry. I usually don't bring up personal matters. Still, this is fucking awesome.
Think about it. Almost always there are OPSEC leaks. Not this time.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (0aYVJ)
Oh?
And that's different from the last 50 years how?
Satellite passing over caught the explosion, lol visible from space
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (NwfFc)
There were NO LEAKS. NOBODY speaking about this. A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days."
With good reason, Jennifer. If they told you what they were planning, you and your media peers would have blabbed it all over creation.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (h7ZuX)
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (ET1ES)
Tell me captain antisemite braintrust....
Do you think the isolationists would rather a nuclear weapon be used against us on our own soil?
I'm starting to think that the supposed MAGA movement is a death cult.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (fpamp)
Posted by: Ian S.
So, Fordow was being operated by two-meter rats?
Isn't that a little tall for a nuke tech?
Posted by: mikeski may be misreading this at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Jim at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (DcE5z)
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I, for one, appreciate this sort of dry humor
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (fweVu)
I went long on colander futures. I'm gonna be rich!
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (Riz8t)
He already said the mullahs are on their own, he's kind of busy with a dick pianist.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (NztoB)
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (oziVZ)
Posted by: Jim
News Flash: Judge Boasberg issues an order demanding that all MOB bombs be recalled to the USA.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (NXz8h)
Alien is something else entirely. Alien scared the crap out of me when I saw it in the theater, having no idea at all what was coming.
Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (ju/6W)
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Like I said... huge OPSEC win. Everyone... literally everyone was focused on 6 supposed B-2's heading to... "somewhere."
Left hook coming from ----> way the fuck over there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (Q4IgG)
Yes it was. Very informal, with a lot of people there. She touched so many lives.
Three 'Rons from Arkansas also made it. I told two stories of Jewells45 that made her daughter and husband cry.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:27 PM (u82oZ)
Iran: We will never surrender! Death to America!
Trump: Okayyyyyy!!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 09:27 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:27 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (6RwsA)
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Announcing them may have been deception.
Maybe they're round two, just in case.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (2myyY)
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I hope they DID use a flying B-29 during this operation if only because it would show the Mad Mullahs how impotent they really are.
And NOTHING shames a Muslim man more than pointing out he's worthless in the sack.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (IBQGV)
Remember, if we get into Mad Max territory, don't spring for a motorcycle. Go for the Toyota Hilux or the nearest equivalent thereof. Greater personnel and firepower capacities per unit of gasoline.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (jGGMD)
-222 American Marines killed in Beirut
-Countless Americans killed and maimed by Iranian IEDs in Iraq
-Arming Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis.
-And new evidence indicating Iran was responsible for the Lockerbie bombing of PanAm Flight 103 and not Libya.
Not sorry. Not one bit. It should have been done decades ago. Thankfully President Trump had the courage to do so now.
Posted by: Black Eyed Peas at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (3ImbR)
Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (IG7T0)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (XeU6L)
Holy shit.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (NwfFc)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM
***
Bummer. We waved at you on our way home. Really!
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
Sure, taunt the guy that just blew up all your shit.
Think we've got another MOP for the 12th Imam's septic tank?
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (i0F8b)
The Russians are useless. The Chinese can't or won't help you. If you're going to go down, take the rest of the world with you.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (JvRTK)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (NXz8h)
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Does he expect President Trump to drop them off at his house?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (IBQGV)
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Like I said... huge OPSEC win. Everyone... literally everyone was focused on 6 supposed B-2's heading to... "somewhere."
Left hook coming from ----> way the fuck over there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (Q4IgG)
Wow... playing the American MSM Media... who woulda even thunk of doin THAT?
Besides... oh.. wait... D. Trump for the last 12 or so years.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (oziVZ)
I think it could have accommodated the GBU-57 very easily.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (b7rtK)
Brillant move because that Woke CJCS AF General or Milley would have called the Ayatollah directly to warn the Ragheads.
Posted by: Ghost of George Patton at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (1RZQV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (XeU6L)
heh
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (JvRTK)
Putin has already stated he has enough on his plate, and will not Militarily support Iran...
Couple days ago... very little media coverage
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (YvtIA)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (rJ7Hd)
Only the B-2 has the lift capacity and bomb-bay size to host the GBU-57. The electronics and certification is only for the B-2.
The B-1 is more for conventional bombs on a rotary dispenser as air support for an entire country like AF.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (aeiyZ)
Posted by: Buster Hymand at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (1RZQV)
heh
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (cYBz/)
The Trump legend grows
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (6RwsA)
heh
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (cYBz/
Cause you got a big mouth.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (rJ7Hd)
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079
Posted by: ace
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Bongino has a post up - we said we were go ing to arrest the rock throwers etc - we've arrested 700 and we're not through-
Can't copy anything on this wretched ipad
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (oziVZ)
Iran has been a pain in our a** for too long.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (gAN4h)
There were NO LEAKS. NOBODY speaking about this. A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days."
With good reason, Jennifer. If they told you what they were planning, you and your media peers would have blabbed it all over creation.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (h7ZuX)
***
I wonder if there was a standing order: Nobody Orders Pizza!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (W/lyH)
She's been quiet.
Posted by: torabora
She's drunk.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (5WDkb)
It needed to be done.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (6PCLE)
Barnes Wallis, watching from engineer Heaven
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (b7rtK)
GBU-57 is 30k lbs.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (fpamp)
Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (vy0Ka)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (JvRTK)
There has been only ONE country in history, that has been able to materially support allies when their own troop were at war... and that was the US in WW2.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:27 PM (u82oZ)
That's good to hear. She was a sweet lady, and she had such an impact.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (jGGMD)
I also said, "Most likely, the people who give the orders to strike are now dead or on the run, so, it may not be as much of a problem as anticipated."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (W/lyH)
Now back to our porn and alcohol.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (ERYKL)
DDayCobra ran a poll on his chat on whether they support Trump's decision, since they were 12-88 opposed three nights ago.
At 1000 votes, he's at 60-40 supporting.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (b7rtK)
I can't imagine them having any GPS after initial penetration, nor how they know when to "detonate" (if that is what they do) ...but once they hit the target, perhaps guidance does not matter. ... I assume we have details on just how deep the facilities are based?
We need 8K video of the details .. cuz we are internet jockeys that only want to play along. heh.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Buster Hymand at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (J7c+Z)
Jennifer Griffin is pissed about this ^^^ no doubt.
Posted by: Black Eyed Peas at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (3ImbR)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (6RwsA)
Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (3ImbR)
Posted by: Lee Also at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (IrqeV)
Jeremiah 4:7
Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (39fkk)
Cry for us, bitchez...
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (u73oe)
Over the next two days, I expect some newly minted expert to claim that this level of secrecy is in violation of the Geneva Convention.
But I don't care about their hurt feelings.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (7xrfc)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (DNJiU)
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Which is why there were no leaks.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (W/lyH)
You'd think it would have occurred to somebody by now to put a pizzeria *inside* the Pentagon....
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (b7rtK)
Gen Miley ordered them to do Take Out .. Chinese...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM
Needs more cowbell.
Posted by: THE Bruce Dickinson at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (39fkk)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (b7rtK)
Probably Chinese food.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (ju/6W)
Israel was the opening act and we always planned to come in for the finale once they got complete air superiority.
I don't buy the two weeks nonsense.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (rJ7Hd)
You'd think it would have occurred to somebody by now to put a pizzeria *inside* the Pentagon....
Nope, that would also leak out. Give them all MREs.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (6RwsA)
Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (zeLd4)
The Ground Zero Cafe in the courtyard of the Pentagon used to sell pizza by the slice. Don't know what today's status is.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (vy0Ka)
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BREAKING: US District Clown Judge Bozoberg Orders Trump to Turnaround The Planes, Bring the Dropped Bombs Back to the US, and to Rebuild the Iranian Nuclear Facilities. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (MZ+PY)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (CHHv1)
I read a claim on Twitter yesterday that the average rate of regular mosque attendance in Iran is less than 12%, and even that's generous.
If the mullahs are overthrown, Iran may secularize in a hurry.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (jGGMD)
heh
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (cYBz/
Cause you got a big mouth.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (rJ7Hd)
The current crop of Democrats, who denounce all things nuclear, from nuclear powerplants to nuclear proliferation, talked big about not letting Iran get nuclear weapons. But tonight they are all butt hurt that a gonna-happen nuclear proliferation was ended by their enemy Drumpf. You cannot despise DEmocrats enough.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (aBgBM)
>>@EricLDaugh
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>>10m
🚨 BREAKING: The United States contacted Iran diplomatically today before the strikes, telling them regime change is not planned, and that the strikes were all that was planned - CBS
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (viF8m)
I'll be pounding the podium about this shortly.
Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (36PRH)
Now she has traitor Richard Hass on talking about how experts are being ignored. Then he grudgingly admits that, just maybe, there was good reason.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (B1a/Q)
2h
🚨 #BREAKING: Pro Iran rioters have just STORMED Penn Station in NYC, and most of them are wearing face coverings
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I am so sick of this crap.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (3ImbR)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (CHHv1)
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Netanyahu has already sent them a message to watch and see that Israel is not against the Iranian people.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (DNJiU)
Keep on rooting for apocalypse just so you can win an argument on the internet, hero.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:35 P
Dang, I missed that.
Hannity is on now. Mom LOVED Hannity. God bless her. I miss her.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (jvJvP)
Of course there are. It's an 80/20 issue, if not 90/10. They are very slow learners.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (Riz8t)
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All you need is MOPS
All you need is MOPS
All you need is MOPS, MOPS
MOPS are all you need
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (0A/JS)
Yeah, can you guess who else didn't?!
Hint: fucking everybody.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (PQOq3)
"He was given authority over the Persian Gulf, to kill with sword, famine, plague, bunker busters and by means of the Mullahs of the Iran !!!!.
Posted by: Buster Hymand at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (J7c+Z)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (IG2sK)
Hannity and Levin are apparently good friends. When they get together I wonder do they both talk at the same time with no listening by either man? What do the wives do at their dinner parties?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (6RwsA)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (KRtlO)
But we no longer have any SR-71s? Or do we?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (b7rtK)
Iran has been a pain in our a** for too long.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (QGaXH)
***
I had a sergeant who was at the Embassy. I also knew one of the officers there.
A friend lost a brother in Lebanon.
Another list a busband.there.
We cannot know what tomorrow will bring, but tonight I feel a sense of...if not relief, then satisfaction.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (W/lyH)
I'll be pounding the podium about this shortly.
Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (0sNs1)
Giving the help a break, are we?
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (rJ7Hd)
Iran immediately said no. I suspect Trump would've waited if there was any positive response.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (uqyLy)
Israel was the opening act and we always planned to come in for the finale once they got complete air superiority.
I don't buy the two weeks nonsense.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (rJ7Hd)
Op was on Standby... been there... did that...
Then once the Iranians said they would not negotiate... it took 2 days after the go order to prosecute the plan.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Diogenes
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There was a spike reported on "pizza orders" from the Pentagon last week. Maybe planning. Maybe horseshit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM
There's got to be some C-Rats in storage somewhere.
The half-life on Ham and Lima Beans is at least 372,461 years.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (jvJvP)
The Dems in Congress are false to their oath, and are essentially enemy combatants in sensitive positions. They want America to fail, Americans to die, and to siphon up as much money and services for themselves they can.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (KRtlO)
Thanks boss
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (rJ7Hd)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (36PRH)
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Now edited to say "U.S. Enters War Against Itan". Hmmmm
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (FZn/N)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (41CYW)
The Dems in Congress are false to their oath, and are essentially enemy combatants in sensitive positions. They want America to fail, Americans to die, and to siphon up as much money and services for themselves they can.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (u82oZ)
Yup
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (I1d1o)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (qgNn3)
See, this is what I don't get. You're telling me that the DoD has to be stingy on the funding for pizza, of all things?
As that old MASH episode said, just get out the 4B/2-a requisition form and write in "pizza" where it says "machine gun."
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (jGGMD)
https://www.youtube.com/live/LpzssWYim38
Apparently Bibi got a live feed of the attack from the US military secure network.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (uqyLy)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (b7rtK)
Mullahs swinging from lampposts would be an excellent start.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (0A/JS)
The UN and a Hawaiian Judge calls for Trump to be hanged, drawn and quartered in Tehran Square.
Posted by: CNN BREaking News at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (J7c+Z)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (Riz8t)
If you were to believe a user that goes by a single letter - Trump's decision is a 90% oppose.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (VJVnS)
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
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This
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (XeU6L)
Israel was the opening act and we always planned to come in for the finale once they got complete air superiority.
I don't buy the two weeks nonsense.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (rJ7Hd)
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"DEZINFORMATSIYA! Putin, you magnificent bastard -- is there ANYTHING you can't do?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (NXz8h)
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They're smart bombs.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (u82oZ)
If I had any balls, I'd make this the leader for my American History classes. And then look for a new job.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (tuLbh)
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Make Tactical Nukes Great
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: Rachel Zegler at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (yjTHn)
Trump is supposed to speak here in a bit. I guarantee it won't be fake tough guy Obama style.
If he says, "I did not seek prior approval for this act from a federal judge--although I'm sure there as some who want to demand I do so." -- all the LOLs
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (zwX/r)
I said it best: "Iacta alia est"
This being a Smart Military Blog, the regulars will translate it without help.
Posted by: GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (0sNs1)
Wife and daughter went to England on a long-planned celebration vacation. (She turned 60.)
They're in London now. I'll pray that they don't get caught up in a protest tomorrow.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (p/isN)
Posted by: Donny T. at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (J7c+Z)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (XeU6L)
Best take of the night. Far better than the splooging over the decision and the endless "ur an antisemite" NPC talking points.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (CDb2z)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (I1d1o)
Now, it appears he is on the precipice of doing it.
He will be a historic figure.
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (r2ymA)
No ground troops, please.
This situation is volatile enough as it is.
Posted by: Just reporting at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (/I9MF)
Thanks for the heads up. We'll send the B-2s back after they get more bombs.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (CDb2z)
It's no logical leap to make when you oppose this decision, you endorse Iran having and using nuclear weapons against Jews.
So pardon us for coloring between the lines you draw.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (VJVnS)
"I don't really care, Margaret."
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (tuLbh)
How about Catastrophic damage ?
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (yjTHn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (tuLbh)
·
38m
JUST IN — President Trump tells Hannity 6 Bunker Buster bombs and 30 submarine-launched Tomahawk missiles took out Iran’s nuclear sites
Hannity confirms 30 Tomahawk missles from US submarines also used to bomb Iran.
https://tinyurl.com/hhxspedm
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Allen
it's literally all about palace intrigue and winning internet arguments with you guys, huh?
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (KRtlO)
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They're smart bombs.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (DNJiU)
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I grok that they are AI Bombs!
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (sp5rp)
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (EZ6e+)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Is this the part where the United States bombs just to see the rubble bounce?
Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Well, they do have a point...
Whatever happens after keep Globohomo out.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (/lPRQ)
They also ran the Manhattan project. Huge top secret reservations in Oak Ridge, Hanford, and los Alamos. Oak Ridge alone employed 80,000 skilled people in construction, and welding. Amazing.
They did learn you can’t pile enriched Uranium up in barrels too closely. Nobody hardly knew what they were actually making. A couple physicists on a walk through about had a heart attack.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (0mY7E)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (jAG+j)
I'm going to take a bold stand and say that 24 hour news sucks."
I'd rather take a cheese grater to my dick than listen to Mark Levin. Even if I do agree with him.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (JvRTK)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (AOsQT)
First comes strength, then comes peace.
And tonight, president Trump and United States acted with a lot of strength.
_Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Allen
it's literally all about palace intrigue and winning internet arguments with you guys, huh?
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (KRtlO)
Well, anytime Lindsey Graham "enters" it becomes suspect.
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (r2ymA)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Nemo
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At Oak Ridge, if I recall.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (XeU6L)
So. The Dildo of Consequences has arrived in Iran.
The Iranian people are almost unaffected (yeah, there have been blackouts, and massive traffic jams, but almost NO dead bodies).
The Iranian Government, however, at the very least, now sees the value of being heavily pre-lubed. I wonder if Khameni, after riding the elevator down, had "The Last in Line" playing on loop.
The Iranian Government has stated that the knowledge of how to build nuclear weapons cannot be erased. They are about to find out that building a bomb has always been a case of time and money. How long to replace all of the facilities, equipment and personnel? WIll the Iranian people suffer again to finance nuclear weapons?
I expect very many nuclear scientists and technicians in the pay of Iran to disappear, very permanently, in the next 6 months, and no one will answer the job ads.
We do not have "Peace in Our Time" (thanks Europe), but we do not face the likelihood of 50,000+ casualties from an Iranian nuclear weapon in the next 25 or so years.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (AOsQT)
Sucks to be them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (u82oZ)
The number I here is $5T
About what LBJ spent to kill the black family.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (B+LEV)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (oaXrE)
Posted by: TRex
While your people themselves change the regime.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (oaXrE)
You may not be interested in war but war is interested in you.
This is different because this will not be some neocon adventure. You are a Trump Originalist, wait and see.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Don, the Rebel without a Blog at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (1j1nn)
What I read was that he felt he had been over-sold but had to prove his value, so he pointed at a random valve on the diagram and asked "What happens if this valve fails?!"
The engineers looked at the piping diagram and said "Holy shit!!"
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (PQOq3)
Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning
We saw a lot of good and interesting movies this past fortnight-and-a-half. Bring Her Back, a melancholy horror from the makers of Talk To The Hand, er, Talk To Me; the romantic Lost In Starlight; the 25th anniversary of Dogma (about which I have much to say); the 30th anniversary of Eat Drink Man Womanl Wes Anderson's Wesandersony The Phoenician Scheme; the French Kung-Fu Giant Penis Farce Zenithal; and the picaresque coming-of-age apocalyptic survival horror 28 Years Later.
I can recommend all of them to people who like those sorts of things. But I shan't review them today. Today I want to talk about changes in the movie biz, vis a vis how relates to your nearly 29-year-old correspondent. If we go back 45 years ago (there will be no math), we might find your humble moviegique didn't just see the top 20 movies, he saw 90% of all the movies that were released. I didn't see them all in the theater, admittedly. I wasn't so adamantly anti-watching-movies-on-TV back then, and it wouldn't have been an option to see them in the theater once they'd past their second run. In 2010, I still saw most of the top 20. By 2020, I'd seen two of the top 20. And there's a near 0% chance I will see the ones I "missed". In other words, whatever mojo Hollywood had over me, it lost it five years ago. Yaboi Zack is on a year-plus long rant against "birthday party clowns" (as he calls them): People who gained fame and fortune by bashing popular culture and now can't do anything else. They can't admit when something is good. Of course, simply redirecting my entertainment dollars to stuff I like allows me to avoid having to grouse constantly. But I do think it's important to call out when things are good. Not because Hollywood is getting better (his thesis). It's not, at least in any way that matters: Any industry stays centralized and powerful because of the virtuous cycle of talent attracting money creating power which attracts more talent and more money and more power. My thesis is that Hollywood's degraded to the vicious version of the cycle: They lost talent, they lost money, they lost power, and this is accelerating. Hollywood is Carthage. It's Detroit. It's Joe Biden. That doesn't mean it has no lucid moments, of course. This brings me to Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning.
Tom Cruise with long hair and bangs gives me Neal Breen vibes.
Cruise Control (I Just Made That Up!)
The decline of Hollywood is interesting. After Dogma, I pointed out to the Boy that while it has an eighth grade theology and a fair amount of clunkers and it presaged and probably created the uber-nerd model of dialogue and humorous references, it was still better than most movies today for two reasons: First, it never loses sight of its goal, which is to be entertainment. Second, it's chock full of characters that are real and different. (And this is kind of funny, because everyone in a Kevin Smith movie talks like Kevin Smith and more or less has his point of view, and in Dogma, most of them aren't even supposed to be mortal humans.) Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning—the movie series that has to use a hyphen for its sequels, because it's got a colon in its base name—never loses sight of its goal (entertainment), and additionally uses its history and creativity (!) to fill itself with new and past characters that are more than just plot devices or representation tokens. All while being pretty damn "representative".
When you order Angela Bassett on Temu.
The actors on realizing they're doing a shot from Svalbard, where the residents fly to Iceland to get warm.
What's It All About, Ethan?
None of this makes a lick of sense, and that's okay. Seriously, you could find good ways to rationalize all these things and it would still be nonsense and you just spent 15 minutes of your action movie babbling things nobody understands anyway. The point is, we're selling this plotline with a bunch of competing deadline clocks. How long can Ethan hold his breath? Can Benji (Simon Pegg) stay conscious long enough to walk the distaff half of the crew through writing a .BAT file? Is the latent attraction Grace (Hayley Atwell) has for Ethan required to get her killed? There's so much action in this movie, several sequences are just left out. An early scene, played for laughs, has Ethan thrashing baddies while Grace watches, horrified. We only see her expressions, and when Ethan reappears on screen, he's comically disarrayed with blood all over him. They had just discussed the need to use violence as a last resort and when she looks at Cruise questioningly he just says "They threatened you!" Which is true, but nonetheless amusing. There's a later scene where three of the characters have to run from an exploding bomb to a shelter and...yeah, not there. This surprised me at first, but it makes sense. Nobody's going to come out of this complaining: "Hey, how did those relatively minor characters make it?"
Pom Klementieff (Guardian of the Galaxy's Mantis) speaks only French in this film.
Blocking? In an action flick?! Seriously, the camerawork is terrific: Not frantically moving around like they're afraid you'll be bored, and willing to use the visual language.
Above and Beyond
Beyond the baseline action, we have Cruise, who has turned Action Man into Acting Man, both here and in Top Gun: Maverick. We have Ving Rhames back—the only one besides Cruise to be in all the movies, I think. And when Ethan, who has killed many, many men, has to reflect on whether he's been a force for good or evil over three decades, the occasional insertion of shots from previous movies resonates without feeling like a crutch. A minor character from the first re-appears here and is both a major plot point and a fully developed character which reinforces the point: Action Man is a force for good. There are casualties, but that's more the roll of the dice. There's a callback to the Jon Voight Jim Phelps from the first movie, too, but it doesn't go the way you might expect. This is really a kind of road picture, and when Ethan meets someone, neither he nor you knows whether that person is going to support the mission or betray it. And perhaps even more interestingly, you don't know why. Everyone has their own backstory, and we're not privvy to it. There's something hugely artistically validating about this overarching idea of all of us being individuals making our own choices for own reasons. Wow. Storytelling. How does it work? This may point to the problem with Hollywood generally: Where it began with working class adventurers and evolved into artists sincerely trying to understand and depict the human condition, now it views itself as the focus and all of us supporting players in its own "heroic" journey. I am confident Mr. Cruise understands the audience is the point, the raison d'être, of art. I found myself impressed. It's a good movie. It earns its two hour, fifty minute runtime, which is about the nicest thing I could say of any 170 minute film.
"I can't keep jumping out of planes! I'm gonna be 63 in two weeks!"
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:35 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 07:37 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 07:42 PM (Plbvm)
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 07:42 PM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 07:46 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 07:46 PM (lJ0H4)
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So, it's like if Ozu had made an action movie.
Is Tom Cruise trying to convince his daughter to marry through the whole thing?
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 07:47 PM (Plbvm)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 07:48 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 07:50 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 21, 2025 07:52 PM (idFFX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 07:53 PM (tuLbh)
I've never seen the first movie. So I think I will see that now.
And as you heard, President Trump rules.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 07:55 PM (jvJvP)
Ethan Hunt has no family. That's kinda of his backstory. Which is another way of saying "I don't get this reference."
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|| 8 One assumes they were apprehended in the austrian alps after the last ending
You're thinking of "Sound of Music".
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:56 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2025 07:57 PM (l0yA3)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:57 PM (IG2sK)
Its "source code" was on the Russian sub. Apparently nobody uses Github.
As far as I could follow it, the deal was, access to the source code allowed them to create the prison/trap for The Entity.
Which allowed them to do it because...uh...it knew that they knew that they would have to let it into the bunker to trap it, which is what it wanted.
Uh. Look, it's fine.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:58 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 07:58 PM (u73oe)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 07:58 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:56 PM (asXVI
Mom was a nun for 14 years. I saw that movie at least 12 times.
And I haven't seen a huge number of movies. Small farming community in Canada. It was an event to get to the movie theatre.
Sadly once to see "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot!" Rip Estelle.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 07:59 PM (jvJvP)
The general break down is that the first one is pretty good, the second one is awful, the third one is passable, then Brad Bird takes over, and they peak, and then McQuarrie takes over and they're pretty good again.
Apparently the last one was the best? IDK.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:59 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)
Best not to dwell on the little details. Just go with the flow.
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 08:00 PM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:57 PM (IG2sK)
I think they are "free" on some sites.
I thought PlutoTV.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:00 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:01 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 21, 2025 08:01 PM (/U7tb)
Otherwise, are they even trying?
Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (QRzWH)
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (jRVrw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Rando Calrissian at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (uTp11)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:03 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:05 PM (tuLbh)
This piece ties in nicely to my current read, "The Future Was Now: Madmen, Mavericks, and the Epic Sci-Fi Summer of 1982" by Chris Nashawaty. It's about the year that gave us E.T., Tron, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kan, Conan the Barbarian, Blade Runner, Poltergeist, The Thing, and The Road Warrior.
I saw EVERY ONE of these, some multiple times, in addition to other films that year. I'd walk down into town from base to a wonderful old movie palace and bask in the glow.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:05 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 08:05 PM (IG7T0)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (Vh9CX)
There HAS to be a few.
None made this century, but still...
There has to be a few.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (y6J3A)
https://moviegique.com/2018/02/magnolia-1999/
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (Plbvm)
There were some elements where you had to suspend disbelief way beyond anything you had ever done before (using a chainsaw to cut through Arctic ice to open up a hole to the water below, surviving in said arctic water for more than a second with nothing but bare skin showing, etc.), but it WAS entertaining!
And I have always been a big Tom Cruise fan (the fact that hubs kinda looks like him doesn't hurt). The man knows what audiences want in their blockbusters, and he consistently delivers.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:58 PM (asXVI)
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Just let the Art flow over you, man. 🍿
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:07 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:07 PM (tuLbh)
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Yeah, hell of a list. I'm not an "E.T." fan and "The Thing" flopped but just gets better every year.
Meanwhile "Conan" and "Road Warrior" dominated B-movies for the next ten years. That is, every giallo, every low-budget goon with access to a camera and a girl who would take her top off, ripped off one of those two flicks to make a movie.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:08 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:57 PM (IG2sK)
If you saw the first one, you've already seen the rest.
No but seriously, it's a formula. Not unlike a porno, you know going in what you're getting, and what you're there for. If that's what you like, that's what you're getting.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 08:09 PM (H4w1S)
Terrific Robert Mitchum noir. He plays a low level criminal the ultimatly gets betrayed.
Pair this with The Drop, another betrayal saga, and you might end the night not trusting your mother.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:09 PM (w/5xj)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:09 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:09 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (y6J3A)
I am qualified to comment on "Village Of The Damned" which I am watching on Svengoolie at this very moment. So far it's got Bobbies on bicycles.
Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (vFG9F)
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Dr. Strangelove?
The movie Strangelove beat to the theater box office, making nuclear war a joke? What was that one? "Tough Decision"? "Hard R"? ... Dammit... uh....FAIL SAFE!
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 21, 2025 07:52 PM (idFFX)
Maybe Trump was just waiting for an AoS post about a Tom Cruise movie. Seems fitting.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (b7rtK)
I liked the original TV shows so watch when free the movies. Can't say the best but still watch them when they are on.
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (IG7T0)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:12 PM (b7rtK)
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Oh, no, not at all.
The first one is lone wolf. The second one is John Woo, and unlike anything else ever made (except other John Woo films, like "Face/Off"). The third one brings back the ensemble and, yeah, you could say they're the same from there on.
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Final Reckoning sounds like a pretty poor knock-off/mash-up of The Forbin Project and War Games
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Maverick : Star Wars :: The Final Reckoning : Lord of the Rings
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (b7rtK)
They also made a porno version.
It bombed.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (H4w1S)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (tuLbh)
Miller shot guerrilla-style, without permits, and hired real bikers who'd do real stunts for cases of beer.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (IG7T0)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)
It seems Cruise is the last person in Hollywood that knows summer movies, by definition, deliver the wow and middle class hetro values but with guns, explosions, and stunts.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:15 PM (w/5xj)
Oh, they did a "Fail Safe" here, too.
President Bassett has to decide whether to nuke the rest of the world to keep the Evil Omnipotent AI from nuking the whole world.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:15 PM (asXVI)
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When I was a kid, I loved 633 Squadron. OK, OK, they're not Yanks but Limeys flying Mosquitoes led by a Canuck.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:15 PM (L/fGl)
As for the source code on a Russian submarine, the US Navy already has the solution - the nuclear depth charge.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:15 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:16 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (asXVI)
I'm looking forward to the new Mission Impossible series.
With Phoebe Waller-Bridge as Ethan Hunt, and Pedro Pascal as her sidekick.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 08:17 PM (aFwXl)
Posted by: Accomack
OMG them and Roger Corman are America cinema heros.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:17 PM (w/5xj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:18 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:18 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (vFG9F)
Two by two
Westminster Abby
The Tower Big Ben
The rosy red cheeks of the little children
England Swings
(Dad was a Roger Miller fan)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 08:18 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:20 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:20 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:20 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 08:20 PM (E0p3T)
On topic, I don't care for Tom's religion.
But, I respect the shit out of his 100% commitment to ensuring you got your money's worth.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 08:21 PM (NwfFc)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:21 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:21 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 08:21 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (CNl8/)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (CNl8/)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (bXbFr)
Thirty Seconds over Tokyo
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Yes, a reasonably good movie starring William Holden and Mickey Rooney.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (rxX52)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:24 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (tuLbh)
Looked up her pic. If she can act she lives if not she dies.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (rxX52)
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Those F-14s SHOULD BE IN A MUSEUM!
Posted by: Indiana Jones at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (36PRH)
1-0, Kittuhs.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Yes, a reasonably good movie starring William Holden and Mickey Rooney.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (L/fGl)
Did Mickey Rooney play a Japanese guy?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (b7rtK)
Small type? No Cosby margins?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (IG2sK)
I just thought I'd remind everyone there is a thread about Iran if you scroll down the page a bit.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Indiana Jones at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (36PRH)
I'm surprised Anna has not done some sort of Oceans 11 heist to ... liberate them.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (bXbFr)
"There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!”
-- King Trump the Magnificent
I bet that statement ia grinding aomeone's gears in both Russia and China.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (PGK1w)
This.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Ciampino - wait it's a non-explosive fringe at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (sPQoU)
The book is about the size of an open adult human's hand. Just looked inside, says First Printing.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (b7rtK)
MI Fallout is probably the peak of the franchise. It's cavills shotgun arm pump. Discuss.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (rWsXW)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I usually never get around to seeing the movie. I just watch The Critical Drinker for a synopsis and maybe I'll see it. Some day.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
No, he plays a rescue helicopter pilot.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (L/fGl)
It seems like Yaboi has nailed CD on not actually seeing the movies he reviews.
|| Did Mickey Rooney play a Japanese guy?
I will go to my grave averring that Rooney SAVES "Breakfast at Tiffany's".
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (fV+MH)
Was Beer Barrel in it? He would smuggle barrels in golf bags.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Yes, Robert Strauss was Beer Barrel.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (63Dwl)
That would be loverly. Maybe after the Mullahs are moot we might be able to bring something back.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (b7rtK)
Yeah. I really want to see "Dr. Strangelove." And I'm looking forward to some of the others.
President Trump talks at 10pm. I was channel surfing. If you are not watching FoxNews or ABC, there is nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (jvJvP)
Not the first time. Might be the last.
You know, if I die soon. Or stop posting. Either way.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: polynikes"
It holds up very nicely.
Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (rWsXW)
It was whatshername in that dress.
I like redheads.
Rebecca Ferguson!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (w/5xj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (4mo5v)
https://tinyurl.com/3mfrmark
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (asXVI)
Then I just kind of forgot to ever watch it. Eh. I pretty much know the story anyway. And I know a ton of quotes.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (vFG9F)
Steve Coogan put on a live play version and it held up really well with only minor changes.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (asXVI)
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This is beginning to piss me off.
A new thread has been up for a while. I've told people more than once to stop talking news in this thread.
Moviegique wrote a strong movie post. Keep on topic or go to the other thread.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (rWsXW)
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John Carpenter did the remake with Chris Reeves and Ally Sheedy.
And that's that.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (4mo5v)
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Zombie Andrew Jackson.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (kpS4V)
Not the first time. Might be the last.
You know, if I die soon. Or stop posting. Either way.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (asXVI)
I submit a motion that you get to take next post off and repost this. I was enjoying the read until.....
Stuff happened.
My friend had me watch Top Gun and Maverick...sp? They were really good.
Once my living situation is settled, I think we could do MI movies.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr)
And that's that.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)
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Not his strongest work.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (rWsXW)
John Carpenter did the remake with Chris Reeves and Ally Sheedy.
And that's that.
Posted by: moviegique
Was it any good?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (L/fGl)
Not the first time. Might be the last.
You know, if I die soon. Or stop posting. Either way.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (asXVI)
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*sigh* This doesn't bode well for tomorrow's Sunday Morning Book Thread.
Pants are still required, though. We're not savages over there.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: fd
I have! I liked it too. Not as good as "The Wicker Man', the 1973 version. I read that Christopher Lee said it's his favorite movie he was in. He did look like he was having lots of fun. Creepy, weird, movie. Kept you off the whole time. It looked normal but not quite. It was a well done trick to do in a movie. Loved it!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (kpS4V)
I tend to like Carpenter no matter what. IDK why exactly but I even found "Ghosts of Mars" engaging.
But it's not great.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (b7rtK)
That book might have made a great movie. Especially if Capote got his wish for Marilyn to play Holly.
It would not have made a successful movie. It would probably not have made a movie that persisted in people's minds as a classic.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Basil at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (asXVI)
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Bullshit to that. This is a big deal. We'l see you next week.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (b7rtK)
Bullshit to that. This is a big deal. We'l see you next week.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (DNJiU
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There's another fucking thread, asshole.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (rWsXW)
Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM
I've been going through a horrible time and did start watching the most brutal films I could find. Biut that was a while back.
I actually really enjoyed the 'Saw' series. And Luke from 'Gilmore Girls' was in a few of them.
But apparently "Human Centipede" or "The Serbian" are there for the win. Haven't seen them yet.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:51 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (+qU29)
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I watched MI:7 on Amazon Prime earlier this year. I suspect I'll rewatch it and add MI:8 for a double feature at some point.
I generally like the MI series (though I can't stand MI:III for it's over-reliance on shaky-cam, which I HATE.). Fun popcorn flicks.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (IG2sK)
Sure, it's inevitable. I am here for y'all's pleasure.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:51 PM (asXVI)
Thank you.
You are incredibly knowledgable and I have been watching more movies. And you have been helpful.
"Death Ship" was not that scary the second time around.
And decades later....
And after the graphic crap....
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (IG2sK)
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Human Centipede is a movie I absolutely refuse to watch. Though the South Park parody (Human Cent-iPad) is pretty funny.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (IBQGV)
I think movies in theaters are going the way of buggy whips: you just don’t need them anymore.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
If cable TV is "dead" then why would theaters survive?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (63Dwl)
Mel Brooks spoofed them as Engulf + Devour in one of his flicks.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
Silent Movie?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (63Dwl)
There is a problem with the constant coarsening of culture. Everything has to be constantly amped up.
|| Human Centipede is a movie I absolutely refuse to watch.
The thing about "Human Centipede" to me is that, every '50s mad-scientist movie had a "fate worse than death" threatened that the hero (or monster) prevents from happening at the last moment.
HC ain't got none of that. It starts with "So, this mad scientist does this horrible experiment. Enjoy!"
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (asXVI)
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And then there are two more!
I saw the first and second. Never saw the third.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (rWsXW)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (IG2sK)
Cool. Tough year so I can't wait.
I don't have my book here but I did watch some found footage trilogy which was pretty brutal. Not my usual stuff. I have seen enough penises being removed.
Captured my mood.
On the plus side, yesterday, I watched my favorite kids shows that make me laugh about 20 times out loud in 22 minutes. That's probably progress.
I never got many comedy movies.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (asXVI)
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I wouldn't call him a "mad scientist." He's a loser who failed high school biology.
A real mad scientist is intelligent and crafty, knows science, but willing to push the boundaries into uncharted territories.
Not a guy who doesn't know how basic biology works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (IBQGV)
Not a guy who doesn't know how basic biology works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (IBQGV)
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Of course a professor bows at the altar of credentialism!!!!
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (rWsXW)
I offered up "Teeth."
But "Showgirls" would be great for a couple of reasons.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (jvJvP)
Well, it's more a genre designation than a character description.
In a sense, Jame Gumb is a "mad scientist".
(Anyone?)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (asXVI)
It didn't spend eight years at Mad University getting my PhD so just ANYONE could call themselves a "mad scientist"!
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (asXVI)
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"Plagiarist!"
-Dr. Herbert West
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (Plbvm)
-Dr. Herbert West
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Did I review that recently on a thread? We just saw the 30th and it holds up so well, right down to the straight lift of the score from "Psycho".
(How DID they get away with that?)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (asXVI)
Did I review that recently on a thread? We just saw the 30th and it holds up so well, right down to the straight lift of the score from "Psycho".
(How DID they get away with that?)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (asXVI)
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The label that remastered and released it on 4k sent me a free uhd a month ago.
First time I'd seen it in maybe 20 years.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (Plbvm)
I particularly think the alien fetus reveal is particularly well done.
I think it's one of his better movies. But I believe people poo-poo it because it basically recapitulates the original movie with better efx. Not everything has to be ".updated" IMO. A trannie Village of the Damned would not be an improvement.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (IG2sK)
You are definitely in the minority. But IDK. I would've put "Prince of Darkness" down near the bottom, and a recent re-watch changed my mind a bit.
|| But I believe people poo-poo it because it basically recapitulates the original movie with better efx.
Interesting theory.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (asXVI)
Zack never had good taste in movies. I don't know what the hell has happened to him, but his behavior is exactly what he used to rail against.
Posted by: Resist_we_much at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (5kCce)
Comically bad. But I enjoyed listening to him talk about them because he had a different perspective. Almost like Armond White, whom I love to read and never agree with on hardly anything.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (asXVI)
I'm pretty sure I saw the MI movies for 'free' on PlutoTV or Tubi.
And I liked the movies I have seen with Cruise. Yeah, Scientologist.
Better than a liberal...
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (jvJvP)
Heh. I remember after the 2016 election, all these precincts in the DTLA area were blue.
Then there was a little sea of red around the Scientology area, and the papers were all alarmed! What does it mean?!
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (asXVI)
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Ha! Yes. Erudite and thoughtful analyses that I rarely agree with. But I like him.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (kpS4V)
Heh. I remember after the 2016 election, all these precincts in the DTLA area were blue.
Then there was a little sea of red around the Scientology area, and the papers were all alarmed! What does it mean?!
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (asXVI)
Thank you so much.
You made me laugh out loud.
A very precious gift.
Have an amazing week.
Even ace is posting now. Burning skulls. Great thread I was enjoying, Needs to be recycled.
It's not like this is the first time all crap loose after a great post.
Lol
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (jvJvP)
Interesting theory.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (asXVI)
Well, look at another movie remade from the same era and along the same general idea and around the same time, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"
People love Philip Kaufman's remake and for good reason. He really plunked it right down into the middle of the 70s gestalt with his own little additions (man-faced dog, etc)
Same with The Fly, both movies lend themselves to interpretations outside the original setting.
Whereas, the storyline of VotD can hardly exist outside of a small town, socially conservative environment.
I believe that "the Critics" are addicted to novelty and Carpenter didn't bring the novelty, he simply upgraded what was there, with his own additions(alien fetus).
It's a good solid horror movie.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (iJfKG)
Premise was incredibly silly. Was a superhero movie trying to be ... what none of them ever were - the original.
Having said that, the acting was dang good; the writing was excellent; the cinematography was outstanding.
AND, the guys who did the whole biplane thing at the end? They must have been wetting themselves having so much fun. They haven't gotten to do a sequence like that in a movie in DECADES!
I didn't need to see it on the big screen, but it was a fun, enjoyable movie, worth $7. And Cruise's opening "Thank you for watching this movie and being fans" was spot on and very anti-Zeigler.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (PkFyV)
Definitely. I prefer the '50s, but the '70s version held up well.
|| Same with The Fly, both movies lend themselves to interpretations outside the original setting.
Definitely.
|| Whereas, the storyline of VotD can hardly exist outside of a small town, socially conservative environment.
Very much of a pre-60s era.
|| I believe that "the Critics" are addicted to novelty and Carpenter didn't bring the novelty, he simply upgraded what was there, with his own additions(alien fetus).
Well, I enjoyed it at the time. I'd say it was "slight" but I didn't think there was anything really wrong with it. Wyndham's books aren't plot-heavy, and Carpenter is a straightforward storyteller.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (asXVI)
The second movie was an almost sure-thing, "The Phantom Empire." It was a modern (well, 80's) version of a Roger Cormon movie. Super cheap, but incredibly ambitious, and seemingly oblivious to the fact that it was completely failing at portraying its intended grandeur. It was also more than a little sleazy with some gratuitous chessecake and toplessness. And of top of everything else, it stars a very young Jeffery Combs. It was everything a Rifftrax movie should be!
Posted by: Castle Guy at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (Lhaco)
Fred Olen Ray and his cast of misfits. Besides Combs, his then-wife Dawn Wildsmith, Russ Tamblyn, Ross Hagen...Sybil Danning's on the cover...and of course, Michelle Bauer, whom I got to meet and hug last year at the Drive In.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (asXVI)
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Posted by: Txdino at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (4U+mU)
Posted by: Texican ette at June 21, 2025 11:06 PM (SNf74)
In the first film the joke line was
'I want him working at a sonar station in the Arctic by the end of the day.'
Posted by: MikeN at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (bjDX0)
Hobby Thread - June 21, 2025 [TRex]
Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. We gave the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies(TM) a spin. It must have been thirsty because it came up with home brewing and winemaking. Credit to Stateless for the topic request. We did a beer theme in September 2024, but that wasn't focused on homebrewing and didn't include winemaking.
Eberbach Monastery was founded in 1136 and was one of Germany's largest wineries for centuries. The monastery was secularized in 1803 by the Duke of Nassau. After secularization, Kloster Eberbach served "profane" purposes: women's prison, "lunatic asylum," cattle stables and agricultural tenant farm
The facility and surrounding lands have been under control of the State of Hesse since 1945. The monastery's wine cellar dates back to 1706 and contains some of the most valuable wines in the world. We recommend a visit. In the name of research.
Words of wisdom:
"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).
Thanks much to scampydog for the thread launch while TRex is busy with NoVa MoMe shenanigans. Because of said shenanigans, TRex will likely be less visible in the comments today. If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, hijack the thread for your hobbying as you see fit. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 05:32 PM (0eaVi)
Moonshine rules
Wine drools
Sister in law's boyfriend did both, and by far, the 'shine was a better drink. The wine was... "off."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 05:34 PM (Q4IgG)
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I know the owners of Luxy 13 hops. They grow them locally - nearby. Interesting how they harvest, both human and machinery.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:36 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 05:37 PM (VofaG)
Certainly drink but never made any
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 05:37 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Cybersmythe at June 21, 2025 05:37 PM (/7+bO)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:39 PM (41CYW)
So, it was a monastery, then they immediately started doing handy shit with it as soon as they got their hands on it? Why is the liberal mindset always the dame?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 05:39 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 05:40 PM (zZu0s)
For those wondering, the NoVA MoMe has been no fun at all. Nope. Not at all.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM (bNCdy)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:39 PM (41CYW)
It's not Natural Light.
I won't have a tranny as my spokesmen any time soon.
If I could afford a busty blonde and/or brunette, they would be serving you.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM (zZu0s)
For those wondering, the NoVA MoMe has been no fun at all. Nope. Not at all.
Posted by: TRex
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Ha. See you in the Club later this evening. Have fun, Dino.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:44 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: HappyFun at June 21, 2025 05:44 PM (+Wlld)
Hit and miss.
Clean-up was a bitch.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 05:45 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 05:46 PM (VofaG)
Since I don't have a man bun, I feel like I'm not welcome.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 05:49 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:52 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 05:52 PM (+qU29)
Moonshine rules
Wine drools
Posted by: Martini Farmer
That reminds me - I have some blackberry moonshine in the freezer patiently waiting for me. Not that big distillery garbage, the real thing: no label. Wow, is it good.
And, keto friendly - Bonus!!
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 05:52 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:55 PM (jc0TO)
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Juice infused beer, ales, which seem popular and are pretty high ABV (like 9 - 12%) seem popular. The Voodoo Ranger brand has an impressive catalog of weird tasting Ales.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 05:55 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 05:55 PM (ZIggv)
Rhode Island has a ton of micro brews. Don't know why but they are everywhere. Fortunately, there is a really good one a few miles from my house.
Started by a couple who inherited the family farm. They were growing hops for many of the local brewers and decided to jump in themselves. I'm over the crazy hops filled IPA but they make a really good lager that I just happened to be drinking right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 05:56 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 06:00 PM (YUL+W)
I grew hops for a couple years, to give to bro. Yes, Cascade and Centennial! There was a 3rd, but can't think of the name. Bought the roots online from a place in Oregon.
Centennial was especially vigorous!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 06:02 PM (rdVOm)
Kept a quart in the "garage fridge" for years.
Not so much now-a-days. Sad.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 06:03 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 06:05 PM (25aq3)
Posted by: JML at June 21, 2025 06:05 PM (1UudH)
The second week of June we went driving up the Oregon coast to see new sights and I was hoping for some dramatic shots of the coastline as grist for a new painting. Unfortunately, as it was on the coast, most of the time we saw nothing but fog. Although I was tempted to stop at every scenic viewpoint and photograph the fog at each one. “Look, here's Arch Rock. And here’s House Point. And there’s the famous lighthouse you see on all the postcards… “ Eventually the fog started to burn off and we actually did see the Heceta Head Lighthouse.
Despite not seeing much of the coast, it was kinda fun, as we had no idea where we’d go next or what we’d see. Or not see. Except plenty of tsunami hazard warning signs. Into the tsunami hazard zone, out of the tsunami hazard zone, until it felt like the tsunami was a gang that was going to leap out and ambush us. Those tsunamis are sneaky, all right, and Oregon kept warning us about them and their hangouts. Which was basically every low spot and river/creek mouth all along the coastline.
I did start a new painting but had to settle for Crater Lake.
Posted by: tankascribe at June 21, 2025 06:05 PM (NtoJk)
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Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM (bNCdy)
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Right?! The people who organized it really let standards slip this year.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 06:16 PM (7ursr)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 05:32 PM
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Know anything about lighthouses?
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:17 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2025 06:18 PM (HIjL3)
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 06:19 PM (lJ0H4)
15 I am tempted to experiment and make prison pruno.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 05:46 PM (VofaG
They belong there after numerous tries by the county, state and feds to get rid of them. So go ahead with prison tats and sex too. Edgy!
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2025 06:21 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 06:21 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:23 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:23 PM
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Would have been more fun if you were there stomping grapes!
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:24 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 06:25 PM (jvJvP)
As mentioned above, it is a messy endeavor, especially if you are making your own mash. I was single at the time, so my kitchen was the designated brewery. Next challenge is sterilizing everything to keep the skunk out. After about three/four weeks we got together for bottling, which was made quick work by the assembly line method we devised.
I'd compare any of our ales favorably to Bud/Coors/Miller. Definitely worth the time and effort..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2025 06:28 PM (bA75n)
Sounded vile. But apparently one batch could get a lot of people wasted, if you could stomach it.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 06:28 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 06:29 PM (yTvNw)
I brewed beer many many years ago. I still remember the time when about 15 or so bottles popped their caps from too much carbonation, in the carpeted closet of my rented room.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 06:31 PM (8hxDK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 06:31 PM (63Dwl)
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Some folks like whiskey, whiskey's mighty fine
Some folks like moonshine, Lord, they drink it all the time
My daddy taught me, he said, "Son, only way to keep your head in line
Drinkin' that wine wine, wine
Keep your head stoned all the time
Look at them luscious little bottles, sittin' up on the shelf
Red green and yellow, Lord, they are somethin' else, hmmm
They mesmerize me, the way they sparkle and shine
Drinkin' that wine wine, wine
Keep your head stoned all the time
One snort of Ruby Port really ring the bell
Then a glass of Muscatel sets my head up well
Then this sweetest bottle of cheapest sherry wine
I say goodbye to my mind
Posted by: The Youngbloods at June 21, 2025 06:32 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 06:33 PM (79pEw)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:36 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:36 PM
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Can confirm that a lot of people are looking forward to Texas!
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:39 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:17 PM (IQ6Gq)
Completely in the dark. Sorry.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 06:41 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 06:42 PM (dR6yv)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 06:44 PM (ITkJX)
Work for a major brewing company, celebrating the 50th anniversary of one of their top brands this year.
The equipment and processes used for commercial brewing is actually pretty amazing. Seeing 1700 12oz cans per minute being filled / capped is impressive
Posted by: PMRich at June 21, 2025 06:49 PM (Pe+uV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 06:49 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 06:21 PM (XV/Pl)
This has been my struggle lately, and I am a beer guy. When we brewed, we used hops to balance out the malt. I think we used Cascade and maybe Hallertau (which we later discovered I had an allergy to).
Someone at one point declared that hops can provide a "buzz", and the next thing you know, small brewers were denuding entire hop vineyards to brew a few cases of eye-watering swill and declaring it great stuff. Then they started charging six-pack prices for a single bottle. The shame of it is they pushed out some pretty good upstart brewers: Oregon, Pete's (Wicked Ale), and eventually even Fritz Maytag's storied Anchor..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2025 06:51 PM (bA75n)
Posted by: Kathy at June 21, 2025 06:52 PM (qpw89)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 06:49 PM
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Open to any hobbies you'd like to discuss. Not open to politics, current events or religious debates.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:52 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: PMRic
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That immediately evoked the Laverne and Shirley opening in my mind.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 06:53 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 06:53 PM (tuLbh)
https://tinyurl.com/2x4wmedx
Known to have written copies of the basic storyline at least as far back as 1568
Posted by: PMRich at June 21, 2025 07:01 PM (Pe+uV)
Seeing 1700 12oz cans per minute being filled / capped is impressive
Posted by: PMRich
My eyes don't work that fast.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 07:01 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:02 PM (yTvNw)
Check out Kloster Reutberg in Upper Bavaria. It's a monastery that makes varied (and wonderful) beers. If you're a beer drinker, you'll find something to enjoy. And, the food is pretty good as well, but secondary. The monastery has been in operation since the mid 1600's, and they never stopped brewing since its inception. Out in the country, up on a hill, it's hard to miss if you are in the area around Sachsenkamm. I, very much, enjoyed their Ägidius-Trunk which is unfiltered...so flavorful.
Good stuff.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 07:02 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 07:03 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
When I got the job, and found I had to go to Milwaukee for company onboarding - everybody in my wife’s family started with the theme song
Posted by: PMRich at June 21, 2025 07:04 PM (Pe+uV)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 07:04 PM (jc0TO)
They sent the beer over the alps. luckily for them by the time it had made it to the pope, it had become not very good at all, and so the pope thought they were full of crap and continued to ignore what they were doing.
Posted by: H at June 21, 2025 07:05 PM (2gjbv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 07:07 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Kathy at June 21, 2025 06:52 PM (qpw89)
I heard of a bar in Fells Point called Ale Mary's. Probably not related. I do recall a couple of brewpubs in that area. Sissons made a great red ale. Just outside Fells point and the Inner Harbor was the Baltimore Brewing Company. Had my first taste of elk there, nicely paired with a marzen. I think both of those places are gone now..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2025 07:07 PM (bA75n)
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 07:02 PM
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Great recommendation. Thank you. Kloster Andechs is another one in Bavaria, about an hour drive further west.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)
Wiki noted, "The prohibition of vino de coco and the introduced distillation technologies from the Philippines led to the development of mezcal and tequila by the indigenous peoples of Mexico."
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 07:08 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:10 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
Just what I’ve always called that first week of:
This is our company history, our values and how this line of business works.
Kind of handy for a guy whose only reference to beer prior to being hired was consumption
Posted by: PMRich at June 21, 2025 07:10 PM (Pe+uV)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:10 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: H at June 21, 2025 07:05 PM
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Never heard that one. Wonder if the monks ensured it would spoil when they sent it. Malicious compliance.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:11 PM (ZIggv)
A few weeks ago on the Cafe thread, ace posted one from your old stomping ground, JTB. Castle Hill Lighthouse.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 07:16 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:19 PM (yTvNw)
Brewing is the perfect hobby. I started with a $50 starter kit my sister gave me for Christmas. It was everything necessary to make beer. An afternoon every other week, and I had beer. Cajun cooker and an old beer keg made a great boil kettle, which tripled my batch size.
The perfect hobby part is that there is no end to the tools and toys you can make or buy to improve your setup. Brewing is like cooking - there are lots of factors to change and control to get a broad range of results. And after you do the work, you get beer.
Posted by: Penultimatum at June 21, 2025 07:19 PM (1QSX/)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 21, 2025 07:20 PM (Hw6WF)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:10 PM
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Easier to draw lighthouse expressions than dancing mouse expressions. But glad you're drawing!
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 07:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: toby928
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I thought riding shotgun was also among the assistant's duties.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 07:22 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:11 PM (ZIggv)
Quality assurance is an important, and often thankless, step in the process. Your family should celebrate your contribution.
My grandfather had a wine press and I have a vague early childhood memory of my father helping him wheelbarrow them to the cellar where he pressed them. Family lore held that one of the barrels sprung a leak and gramps eventually sold the press. I remember the barrels, but they must have been sold off at some point, too..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2025 07:23 PM (bA75n)
Dang. I must have missed that thread. I do miss Ocean Drive now and then. It was a great place to view the Milky Way reflected in the water when it was calm. Some good surf casting off the rocks as well.
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:23 PM (yTvNw)
Kinda hoping for another polynikes painting.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 07:24 PM (CHHv1)
Y'all come back now, ya hear?
See you later in Club ONT.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 07:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 07:26 PM (sp5rp)
Instead of growing them straight up, I trained them to spiral up 'pyramids' I'd made using garden stakes. Then, when the cones came on, they looked like Christmas trees. In summer, LOL.
Harvest was easy-- no ladder required.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 07:27 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 07:27 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:29 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at June 21, 2025 07:32 PM (4E0Ti)
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Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 07:43 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: TRex
https://tinyurl.com/yetryx89
Here’s a bit more accurate version. Several years/beers and not sure I remembered it correctly.
Posted by: H at June 21, 2025 07:47 PM (2gjbv)
His batch came out terribly. He apparently didn’t disinfect all of the things, and got some sort of cootie in the brew barrel. It truly was undrinkable, no matter how long you let it age.
Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2025 08:17 PM (7hdjp)
Stole a bottle from time to time to sneak away for a buzz…tasted like shit, but accomplished the goal.
His wine storage rack was ingenious. He found a head shop going out of business and bought the poster storage rack. Heavy timber frame, 4X4s, with clay sewer/ water pipe segments about 3k long. Kept temp moderate and you could fill it from both sides. 100s of bottles, but my 17 year-old self thought they all tasted like ass.
Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (7hdjp)
Ace of Spades Pet Thread, June 21
Last week we had one of those heart-wrenching experiences that no one should ever have. When we woke up on Friday morning we could not find our youngest cat, Misty, anywhere. We searched the house, the yard, checked under and in the shed, walked the grounds around the fenced area endlessly, even walked along a nearby wash. Misty was nowhere. We immediately passed out notices to all our neighbors as well as listed her as missing on a number of websites that specialize in listing unidentified found pets. All to no avail. As of today there is still no evidence of her anywhere. We have mostly decided that a predator of some kind, a coyote or large bird, somehow got into the yard (protected by a very high fence) and snatched her. She was only two and a half years old. Her loss is quite painful. What makes it worse is that she was undoubtedly the happiest cat I have ever known. We originally got her as a kitten in 2022 to be a companion for our other cat, Molly, as well as for ourselves. We had adopted Molly and Emma together in 2013, but Emma had died prematurely in 2021 from kidney failure. We found Molly pining for companionship, and thus went out to find her a kitten.
Some cats can be timid. Some can be bossy. Some can be hostile. Some cats, like Molly, are contented and nice, always willing to hang out near us but not be very creative or active, with eating, sleeping, and getting brushed her only real interests. Misty however was always happy, and eager to tell everyone that’s how she felt. For almost three years she brought this joy to us, as well as to herself. For that we are grateful. It is tragic beyond words that she could not do so for many more years.Please consider yourself and your family (including pets) to be special members of the PetMoron family, Bob. We mourn you loss of Misty. Stay in touch. We have gotten a real sense of how special Misty was. Thank you.
Hi KT: Long-time semi-Lurker Lisan here. Here are pictures of Billy the Dog, an Australian Kelpie mix; Bella, the Tortie cat; and Sophia, a very ancient Tabby. I brought all three animals home after my aunt passed away and no one could take them. Originally, I was taking only the two cats, but Plan A for the dog fell through and I was Plan B. Since Billy is a very good dog, and especially good around cats, it wasn’t stretch to include him as part of the pet horde. He is the most well-behaved dog-polite, good on a leash and incredibly, he never barks. The puzzle with him is that he has none of the herding dog breed characteristics, and while he looks like he has some husky or malamute in him, he doesn’t act like it. Will just be thankful he is such a well-behaved little guy, and do a DNA test at some point to confirm his breed. Bella is about 14 years old, she was exclusively an outdoor cat, but not feral. She is adapting well to being indoor only, meaning she isn’t complaining with howling cat noise or violence. She is actually a quiet cat, very amenable to being handled and petted-I think she is secretly happy to be warm and safe inside. We are letting her set the pace for ratcheting down her flight response, and she is slowly exploring beyond the safe places she has picked in the house. Sophia is confirmed at 22 years old, which is the oldest cat I have ever had. Apparently, she was also an outdoor only cat, brought inside to die when she began to look frail—this was an unknown number of years ago, and she is still hanging on. She is creaky, cranky, and old-thin, but moves around well from nap spot to nap spot, almost trotting when food is on offer. We are treating her for the typical old cat problems, namely hyperthyroidism (medicated), kidney failure (subQ fluids), with her diabetes testing still inconclusive. I know she is on borrowed time but I am terribly happy we could give her a final landing place that is peaceful and quiet and safe. Thanks for all you do for the Ace of Spades weekend edition. Lisan
Let me introduce to the newest member of our family. This is a baby green cheek conure. He/she hatched on Father’s Day morning. As you can see, there will be more siblings in the coming days. He will get his first feeding this evening and moved into a brooding box tomorrow. I’ll try to send more images as they grow.
David
Encountered by Members of The Horde
Thank you for sharing your pets with us. If you haven't seen yours yet, we are still untangling submissions from the past few weeks.
If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:Until next Saturday, have a great week!petmorons at protonmail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)And Misty making herself comfortable in the sink is hilarious.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:29 PM (7xrfc)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:31 PM (+qU29)
Was it a greyhound? Think I have it, but you could resend with your nic.
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 03:31 PM (xekrU)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:32 PM (7xrfc)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 03:33 PM (HaduJ)
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 03:40 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 03:40 PM (omVj0)
They had the most lovable Hyacinth who thought people were wonderful because they gave him attention.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:41 PM (7xrfc)
Do spiders count as pets? Haven't broomed them out yet. It's like Wild Kingdom when they dash to eat a fly. One has six corpses in it's web.
Neighbors puppy finally has a name: Nova. Meh, I'm still calling her little girl. Man, she is solid! Going to be a big blue heeler.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 03:42 PM (7QJmL)
Posted by: fourseasons at June 21, 2025 03:44 PM (3ek7K)
They died within a few weeks of each other. And in exactly the same way. They went to sleep as per usual, and never woke up.
Mom had another cat reach 21, almost 22. Must be something in the water here.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 03:45 PM (aeiyZ)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 21, 2025 03:46 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at June 21, 2025 03:48 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 03:51 PM (yTvNw)
My Happiest Cat was clearly Marie-Antoinette the smart black cat. She was rescued from a park in the French Quarter, we were told, and became Linda's first cat. After a day or so, Marie adjusted, learned her new name or any part of it, and set off on a lifelong adventure to see and do what she could see and do. She was always pleased to have new people come over ("Ah! Someone new to worship me!"), loved to play with toys and with human objects like earrings and jewelry, and loved to have other cats with her. When I introduced her to the harness and lead later in her life, she eagerly took to walking with us, leading us with her tail in the air.
She lived to be about fourteen. All too short a season.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 03:52 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 21, 2025 03:52 PM (PDbei)
https://tinyurl.com/u5a4awvb
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 03:53 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025 03:56 PM (ZmEVT)
My childhood tuxedo cat escaped from the vet. Over a year later coming home from trick-or-treat, there she was on the front porch!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 03:56 PM (RsSPG)
Stirling and Dagny, the Killer Kittenz From Outer Space, are doing well. Stirling was on my lap just now, though he's doing it less often as he grows up. (Still milk-treads, though.) Dagny, well, I have had to adjust to the fact she'll never be a lap cat, and just enjoy her company when she chooses to be near me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 03:56 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025 03:57 PM (ZmEVT)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 21, 2025 04:00 PM (kTd/k)
Lucas, the sun conure down the block for example.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 04:00 PM (RsSPG)
My childhood tuxedo cat escaped from the vet. Over a year later coming home from trick-or-treat, there she was on the front porch!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025
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My boyhood cat, Rusty the big red tabby, vanished one day from the house and patio. We searched everywhere for him -- and he was terrified of strangers, so he would not willingly have gone out the gate onto the street, even if he'd had the chance. We walked all around the area, calling him, hoping against hope that he hadn't been run over.
Three days later he was at the kitchen door, squeaking piteously for food. We guessed that he'd been startled into running into the back door of the shop that opened on our patio, or crept in to explore, then been too frightened or confused to leave until someone left the door open once more. He never vanished again.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:01 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 04:01 PM (xekrU)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025 03:57 PM (ZmEVT)
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https://tinyurl.com/yhdjst88
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 04:02 PM (aeiyZ)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025
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There's a New Yorker cartoon about that. The man of the house eyes the cat and says, "The fact you were considered sacred in Ancient Egypt cuts no ice with me."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:03 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2025 04:04 PM (/iXAp)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:06 PM (omVj0)
We tried to keep them inside only but 2 of them were rescued from outside situations so they always wanted out and would escape when letting the dog out or when opening the front door. After a while we gave up trying to keep them in 100%.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2025 04:10 PM (YobFY)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 04:11 PM (kpS4V)
I petted her and she sat next to me and leaned against my leg. It's great when you're nice to a dog and they decide you've earned their trust.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 04:11 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:11 PM (omVj0)
The first cat I ever lived with disappeared in July. She came back in November...of the following year. So it can happen.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 04:13 PM (CHHv1)
Built in hearing for the Fridge Door and Plastic Wrappers bring opened. Within 5 seconds I turn around and there is the little beggar.
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025 04:16 PM (1sBXy)
Built in hearing for the Fridge Door and Plastic Wrappers bring opened. Within 5 seconds I turn around and there is the little beggar.
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025
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My cats are that way about the water from the tap. If I walk into the bathroom, one or both of them flies in after me and sits on the edge of the sink. They do that if I turn the tap on in the kitchen, too. I expect enthusiasm about breakfast and dinner, but their love of running water -- when they have a recirculating fountain and a bowl of fresh water changed at each meal -- startles me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:19 PM (omVj0)
Double check nearby closed spaces.
Holly got into a maintenance closet for a week once.
Permanently on rabbit patrol about 5 years now.
Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2025 04:21 PM (FhXTo)
Busy early part of the week. Time for the Summer Death March. Her Majesty returns this afternoon from picking Varus up to be our guest.
Monday, Puff and Ruth get baths and the RV gets loaded. Tuesday, we take four dogs (Puff, Ruth, Dot and Dan) to Texas A&M for heart tests as part of a study there.
On returning, the crates are removed from the front and Varus and Rosalind go up to Oklahoma City for five days, then come down to Dallas for three. So HM is away for two weeks.
Then it's San Antonio the next weekend, then Houston the week after that, then Longview the week after that. Busy July.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 04:21 PM (QnmlO)
We be should do something to stop this county letting then land their.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 21, 2025 04:22 PM (aKoaI)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 04:24 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:29 PM (7xrfc)
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Yep!
I can identify with that. Kaylee the Calico Kitty Cat (the cutest little cat of them all) used to do the same thing when she was a young cat. She doesn't do that anymore, though. Don't know why.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 04:27 PM (IBQGV)
I assume that Senator Padilla was just out of the shot, running with an anvil in his hands?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 21, 2025 04:30 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 04:33 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Buster Hymand at June 21, 2025 04:33 PM (q/j2W)
All baby birds look like they are born "preemies" to me.
Dang do they grow fast though when their parents are bringing lots of food.
It is almost magical to my eye that is more calibrated to watching mammals grow up.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 21, 2025 04:33 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 04:38 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: FLanole at June 21, 2025 04:54 PM (ZnrCl)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 04:54 PM (/B+k3)
Took the new puppy out for her maiden voyage on our pontoon. Just went to get gas and came home. About a 30 minute adventure and she seemed to like the ride but not the heat. Don't think she'll be taking any long rides on the 'toon this summer.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 21, 2025 05:02 PM (DfkdK)
Prayers sent.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 05:10 PM (QsMb/)
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That's clearly a dinosaur
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
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I'm seeing the same thing. Wake up one day and it's a T-Rex. Not our TRex, but a Rex.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:11 PM (41CYW)
Billy looks like a happy, good boy and. Bella is regal.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 05:14 PM (QsMb/)
The eggs look big and I want to see updates.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 05:15 PM (QsMb/)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 05:19 PM (VofaG)
One day she succeeded and apparently got lost. I thought she was gone for good until one day there was a knock on the door.
Turns out she'd been taken in by a very nice couple who took good care of her until their landlord got wind of it (they weren't allowed to have pets). Very sadly, they took her to the Humane Society. The Humane Society scanned her, found the chip, and told them where she belonged, so they they insisted on returning her in person. They wouldn't take any reward, not even to cover the cost of cat food.
Thank God she had a chip.
Since then, she's never tried to get out the door even once, no matter how many tasty-looking birds are in the yard.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 05:29 PM (qpyNK)
Gardening, Nature and Home Thread, June 21
I took the camera out to the local community college garden this afternoon. It’s early, but I did find a few things in bloom.
Edible Gardening/Putting Things By By-Tor has started a container garden and has his first harvest now: Salads coming up?
NorCal Sierra Foothills Lurker here, hoping you are healing and getting well. This is a gopher snake we saw on our property. It’s about 4’ long. We watched it slither down a gopher hole and disappeared.
Orange dragonflies have arrived.
NorCal Sierra Foothills Lurker
I decided that I am going to start having flowers delivered to the house while I am still around to enjoy them! I have never seen Peonies before (they don't grow very well around these parts), so I am starting with these
If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Gardening Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:25 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 01:27 PM (xekrU)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:28 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 21, 2025 01:28 PM (AcTAo)
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 01:30 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:31 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 01:37 PM (8Rozl)
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 01:38 PM (LHPAg)
And mom bunny has a nest in my oregano patch for over a week but no crop of bunnies yet.
She did it last year in the other oregano patch
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:49 PM (+qU29)
What exactly are we supposed to do with basil? I can't eat it all while it's fresh.
Posted by: Bombadil at June 21, 2025 01:54 PM (MX0bI)
Make pesto!
Lots of recipes online.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:56 PM (rdVOm)
Take fresh and put inside in a bowl, it will dry out and then grind or chop fine
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:57 PM (+qU29)
The only maintenance is to take it in when using auto sprinklers in the lawn, as tap water kills them.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 01:59 PM (wBaIH)
I don't use a hell of a lot of basil in my regular cooking, but there's a basil-intensive recipe for "Sunday Sauce" on kitchn. I tried it once and it came out fan-freakin-tastic.
Posted by: Bombadil at June 21, 2025 02:08 PM (MX0bI)
Any ideas?
Posted by: Beverly at June 21, 2025 02:13 PM (Epeb0)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 02:15 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:16 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 01:59 PM (wBaIH)
I've been worrying whether the tap water I have now is hurting because it seems to have a lot of chlorine in it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:18 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: AlmostYuman at June 21, 2025 02:22 PM (bj34f)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 02:33 PM (wBaIH)
"Make pesto!"
We had a huge basil plant about 15 years ago and I did just that with its output--and froze a lot of it. I still kind of like pesto, but that binge pretty much cooled me on it as a frequent ingredient.
FYI, you can make pesto with pretty much any green or herb and any nut. Being a Texan I've made pecan/cilantro pesto. Any pesto made with raw spinach is good, too.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at June 21, 2025 02:35 PM (FEVMW)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 21, 2025 02:36 PM (AcTAo)
OTOH, the folks at the VaMoMe should at least have dry conditions instead of Amazon jungle humidity.
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 02:51 PM (yTvNw)
Thanks for those gorgeous photos in the thread. Looking at them, enjoying the delicate forms and colors, is so relaxing.
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 02:56 PM (yTvNw)
OTOH, the folks at the VaMoMe should at least have dry conditions instead of Amazon jungle humidity.
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 02:51 PM
We had that two weeks ago. Violent thunder storms came through last Sunday night close to 11pm. Our phones went off with a tornado warning and then the town warning sirens went off. We got dressed and started heading to our safe room. A tornado went right over our house according to the NWS tracking map.
It blew up the neighborhood, trees down all over the place. smashed cars and houses on every block, people are still cleaning up from it. Luckily not a single person was hurt. All we lost was our last surviving rose bush, all of the others were killed in the freeze we had five years ago. The tornado flattened it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 21, 2025 02:58 PM (e5NfL)
My first maters out the gate are little Striped Romas, Green Giants, and Sun-Arctic Plenties. Every plant is loaded with buds though. I have banana peppers bustin' out too.
My home pollinator garden is bursting with flowers. The local deer cropped off my pretty lavender Canterbury Bells. Grrrr...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 02:59 PM (kpS4V)
The peonies are beautiful. Is the peach colored flower a peony or a rose? It looks like a David Austin Rose
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 02:59 PM (QsMb/)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:00 PM (+qU29)
Glad you are OK. We've had some tornado watches here but nothing touched down, fortunately. The storms did have high enough winds to take down some trees and power lines. This week is sunshine and high temps. Already looking forward to autumn. :-)
Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 03:06 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 21, 2025 02:36 PM
Roasted almonds work too.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 03:09 PM (jc0TO)
https://tinyurl.com/4t7p9xpw
Cornflowers!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 03:19 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 03:22 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:28 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 21, 2025 03:29 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:28 PM (+qU29)
I already have rodent control.
Snakes chose poorly if I see them.
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 03:32 PM (iGK7y)
With my lawnmower. It looked like a race track across my lawn until I straightened up the lines. Fast sunnuva B.
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 03:34 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 21, 2025 03:36 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 03:45 PM (QsMb/)
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 04:03 PM (xekrU)
Posted by: Nan in AZ at June 21, 2025 04:14 PM (xDvzW)
I grabbed the Red Phone and yelled, "Hello!
These plants look all spindly and yellow!"
"Why, don't poke and tease 'em,
Give Epso-Magneezyum."
Said an amiable internet fellow.
Posted by: Bombadil at June 21, 2025 04:32 PM (MX0bI)
To get the bucket into place, the two-man crew had to drive it over my big, beautiful hosta. So they used shovels to loosen it and hoist it out with a scoop. I mentioned I planned to replant it in the fall because it prefers more shade. THEY MOVED IT FOR ME!
The backyard is an unholy mess of mud and crushed-to-oblivion sedum. But the hosta is alive! All 100+ pounds of it!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2025 04:34 PM (l0yA3)
Eastern fox snakes live around here. I was disturbed the first time I saw one in a tree, but they're non-venomous. This is the only place I've ever been where kids are taught to move snakes to safety. The neighbor kids called them "stinky snakes" because they give off a musky smell if dogs or cats disturb them.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2025 04:57 PM (l0yA3)
Iran beyond the Mullahs
Israel, Iran, and the Trump Doctrine
Brian T. Kennedy
The Case of Iran Many today suggest that American foreign policy is led by Israel. The U.S. experience with Iran tells a different story. The Islamic Republic of Iran has been at war with the United States for almost half a century. Its enmity for the U.S. was born of our cooperation in the overthrow of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 and the restoration of the Shah of Iran until his fall at the hands of the Iranian Revolution in 1979. The overthrow in 1953 was part of a series of Cold War considerations that the United States made with our British allies to check the influence of the Soviet Union in the Middle East and ensure Western access to oil.
The Cold War, clearly misunderstood by so many young Americans today, was an existential contest between the United States and the Soviet Union. The United States was not engaged in the democracy promotion that came to characterize the discredited and failed efforts of the Global War on Terrorism. During the Cold War the United States and our NATO allies engaged in ruthless competition with the Soviet Union and its allies, such as Communist China, North Korea, and the terrorist movements represented by the PLO in the Middle East and Communist/terrorist groups in Europe such as Baader-Meinhof, Black September, and the Red Brigades. Communist China supported these groups every bit as much as the Soviet Union did. It was a global struggle for primacy. Such is the case in world affairs. Communist China’s current support of Communist groups in the United States such as “No Kings” is a reminder of this. It was hoped that supporting the Shah of Iran would help create a pro-Western regime that could advance pro-Western interests. . .This piece provides a lot of useful information which I had forgotten (or had never learned). As disagreements and changes swirl around us, it is a good piece to keep in mind:
Proponents of an immediate attack to finish the Iranian nuclear program point often to Iran’s millenarian version of Shia Islam, which holds that there will be a return of the 12th Imam in the course of an apocalyptic event; it is certain some hold this view. Whether they are in power at this moment in Iran is unclear. Claremont Institute scholar and International Relations professor Angelo Codevilla would often say that the Iranians may be crazy, but they are not stupid. It will be amply clear to many in Tehran that the age of the Mullahs has come to an end. The Persians may be an ancient people and the possessors of a once great empire, but they were conquered in the 7th century by the Arabs, who imposed Islam upon them. After 1,400 years, regular attendance at Friday Mosque services ranges from a high of 12% to perhaps as low as 1.5%, the lowest in the Middle East. That the Iranians could be liberated from this Islamic Republic and could live at peace with the West would be a highly desirable thing. To bring that about, however, will be the job of the Iranian people.Do you have related thoughts? From ZeroHedge, Trump's worries about the experiences with Libya. His two-week timeline concerning destruction of Iran's nuclear capabilities was not just some random idea.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 11:01 AM (X/FL+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:01 AM (hY4dx)
More rubble, less trouble is probably the way to go. Let Israel decapitate and then just leave them to their devices. DO NOT GET INVOLVED.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:03 AM (bss/y)
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But mostly to control access to oil.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:04 AM (5ntSy)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:01 AM (hY4dx)
That was a very long running flame war.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:04 AM (bss/y)
Half the ice cream flavors used alcohol as an ingredient.
Man, it was a tough job!
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 21, 2025 11:07 AM (nmCEc)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 11:08 AM (dR6yv)
Here's hoping!
Posted by: The 13th Imam at June 21, 2025 11:09 AM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 11:10 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 11:10 AM (ITkJX)
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 11:11 AM (xekrU)
For the Brits, primarily. The pro communist factions saw themselves as remaking parts of the world...
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:12 AM (tubbA)
Khosrow was named after the Persian kings of old, and he was a wild womanizer.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 21, 2025 11:13 AM (zeLd4)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 11:14 AM (ZIggv)
I didn't really care for the baklava I tried when I was in Turkey. Too sweet.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 11:14 AM (W/lyH)
That's why nobody is coming to help Iran. Trump told them what he was going to do and they know he means what he says. The time for choosing has come.
Here's the text.
https://tinyurl.com/dysm38kw
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:15 AM (viF8m)
Like many despots around the world, some of the Mullahs spent time in Paris.
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 11:15 AM (xekrU)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 11:15 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:16 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:16 AM (viF8m)
Kind of the same.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:17 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:12 AM (tubbA)
It's funny how so much of the trouble America has gotten itself into, since the end of WWII, is essentially bailing out our so-called "allies."
Why, I seem to recall some guy, George something or other, saying something about avoiding foreign entanglements.
But that was like a hundred years ago, so.....
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:17 AM (5ntSy)
See also, Tucker Carlson.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:18 AM (Riz8t)
That's why nobody is coming to help Iran. Trump told them what he was going to do and they know he means what he says. The time for choosing has come.
Here's the text.
https://tinyurl.com/dysm38kw
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:15 AM (viF8m)
Believe it.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:18 AM (hOOi9)
2) Petty and childish.
3) Blue eyed zealots about their cause- which is their own enrichment.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:18 AM (bss/y)
Brian Kennedy wrote the above in his piece in The American Mind. I think he’s dead wrong. It’s not unclear at all… the Mullahs are in power and they’re Shia. Why is this unclear?? Khamanei is an American-hating fanatic and his regime has been furiously enriching uranium and cheating on agreements for as long as they’ve been in power. Furthermore that regime has been killing Americans for 46 years… the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983; that was them.
When people have been shouting for 46 years that they want to kill you and have been engaged in that activity…. Maybe we should believe them??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 11:18 AM (ANuwa)
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 11:15 AM (xekrU)
John Francois Kerry
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:19 AM (5ntSy)
Please, thank you. Nail this on a plaque beneath Ace's header.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:19 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2025 11:20 AM (HIRLq)
I've never heard that figure before. You'd never guess it from the news.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:21 AM (Riz8t)
Right across from the Romanian Palace of the Parliament, Ceaușescu had a whole neighborhood built modeled on the Champs-Elysees.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Ben Had
Who? I wish to inquire about a recipe.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 11:22 AM (dR6yv)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:23 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 11:18 AM (ANuwa)
A story was told, maybe fake but accurate, during the American Civil War, in a lull in the fighting, Yanks and Rebs would should across the lines at each other.
One Yank was asking the question, apparently out of genuine curiosity "Hey Reb, why y'all fighting us?"
To which the Rebel answered "Because you're down here."
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:23 AM (5ntSy)
Nobody is going to miss them, least of all the Iranian people.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:24 AM (hOOi9)
A gyro place in South Wichatitty made the best I've ever had. Funny owner that would talk at length to me about his theories on aliens and UFOs. I think it was called Latka's or something like that. Loved that place so much. All Dust In the Wind now I'm sure. (a kansas themed comment)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 21, 2025 11:24 AM (cduTK)
He offers them a vision of being a first world nation among equals. All they have to do is modify their behavior. He's tried it with North Korea, the Gazans, and Iran.
Of course, those regimes are too stubborn and proud to admit there is a better way, which is why it won't work unless something forces those regimes to change by other means.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 11:24 AM (IBQGV)
To which the Rebel answered "Because you're down here."
That story was told by Shelby Foote in Ken Burns' Civil War series.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:24 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:26 AM (/CkK4)
Anyway, the food is really good. I don’t remember the names, but it was kabobs and stews, lotsa rice and beans, and saffron. I’m not a dessert guy, so I can’t say much about the pasties or baklava.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 11:26 AM (5cl3b)
Many of them have vast tracts of land.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:27 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:27 AM (Riz8t)
One Yank was asking the question, apparently out of genuine curiosity "Hey Reb, why y'all fighting us?"
To which the Rebel answered "Because you're down here."
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:23 AM (5ntSy)
That was Shelby Foote. Loved his Civil War books and his commentary in Ken Burns documentary; great southern drawl
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 11:27 AM (ANuwa)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 21, 2025 11:24 AM (cduTK)
Was he a taxi mechanic on the side?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 11:28 AM (dR6yv)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 11:24 AM (IBQGV)
Basically as all humans do. We don't like being told what to do.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:28 AM (5ntSy)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 11:28 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Hick Follywood at June 21, 2025 11:29 AM (gKoO+)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 11:29 AM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 11:29 AM (7xrfc)
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Posted by: BurtTC
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Communism and communists were an existential threat to America. Directly. You know it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:29 AM (lCWOD)
Like everything else follow the money.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:29 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 11:28 AM (dR6yv)
Maybe? And wrastle women no doubt. I don't actually know what ethnic he was but I always enjoyed spending time with him when I had enough money to get lunch out.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 21, 2025 11:30 AM (cduTK)
The problem is I have about 20 of those small portions in rapid succession.
Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2025 11:31 AM (TgNVd)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:26 AM (/CkK4)
I don’t support regime change. I do support giving Israel a little more time to take our Fordow on their own but if they can’t we drop one or two MOPs to eliminate their nuke capabilities and then we’re done. Whatever happens on the ground after that is up to others
This is where the debate has been too vague. There are many I believe like me who would absolutely oppose Iraq war 2.0 in Iran… but we absolutely do support dropping one or two big bombs. Iran can’t have nukes
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 11:31 AM (ANuwa)
With the US having a pretty spectacular counterinsurgency going on, I figure they know how to get this done.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:32 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 11:32 AM (dR6yv)
Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2025 11:33 AM (TgNVd)
Iran can’t have nukes
Your statements are inconsistent. What if 1 or 2 MOPs don't get the job done? If they can't have nukes, then we have to do what is necessary.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:26 AM (/CkK4)
Success stories or not, overall, no bad guys ended up keeping their nukes.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:34 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: NR Pax
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If they think you are out of step with the mullahs, cops will come, drag you out of your house and beat you on your front step.
Pour encourager les autres
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:34 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:29 AM (lCWOD)
Yes, in Korea, Vietnam, Greece, the entire Eastern bloc, South America, Africa... commies everywhere.
You know where we forgot to look? In America, on our campuses. In our boardrooms, in DC.
We spent bazillions on dollars, shed millions of lives, and they conquered America, without ever firing a shot.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:35 AM (5ntSy)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:36 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2025 11:37 AM (rF2iL)
Many of them have vast tracts of land.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:27 AM (Riz8t)
——-
‘Hey baby, how yoo doin’? Yoo heard about the massive penetrator. I got something to show ya.’
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 11:37 AM (5cl3b)
_________
Doesn't regime change also have to be a part of this? We can't leave a bunch of revanchist mullahs in place unless we're gonna do this same thing every so often.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 11:38 AM (ITkJX)
The US and Germany also contributed nuclear technology to Iran during this time. But neither provided any nuclear materials such as Uranium.
However, the political situation in Iran changed for the worse with the Iranian Revolution that saw the mullahs take power. All western countries ceased their cooperation with Iran in 79, for obvious reasons.
My curiosity was sparked by a report that Iran's nuclear program was based heavily on French designs for reactor technologies.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 11:39 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)
I disagree. The MOPs were designed to do this very type of operation. Drop them on Fordow and it will be destroyed. Furthermore Israel has the same objective and they’re clearly all-in on this mission. In the extremely unlikely event that mop-up (see the pun?) operations are needed on the ground the IDF will do that. There is every reason to believe Fordow can be destroyed without American boots on the ground.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 11:40 AM (ANuwa)
Black Drag Queens Honored on Oregon House Floor as Legislative Priorities Take Back Seat
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)
I do. I don't support the US installing a government but I absolutely do support the removal of terrorists who have been attacking the US and other western interests for nearly 50 years.
The nuclear issue is just the latest and most dangerous incident but the religious lunatics in Tehran have been capturing and murdering Americans since they took power. They are never going to stop because their idiotic religion commands them to keep doing it. No more Hamas, no more Hezbollah, no more Houthis or any other Iranian terror proxy.
Let the people of Iran choose their own leadership and if they coexist peacefully then great. But the era of the mullahs needs to end.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:40 AM (viF8m)
Former President Joe Biden Talking in “Quiet Car,” Asking for Ice Cream on Amtrak Rides to DC Office
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:42 AM (L/fGl)
Weird, but surprisingly good.
Jack, thanks for the text of that speech.
KT, so glad to see you here, and obviously on the mend!
Posted by: MkY at June 21, 2025 11:42 AM (cPGH3)
https://tinyurl.com/38evy8m6
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:43 AM (T+YTi)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 11:44 AM (ZIggv)
Why not?
Those A holes have killed Americans without any repercussions for years. No boots on the ground are needed for seismic explosions.
We have the jets. We have the ordnance. I think Trump is covering all the bases.
I'll bet several quatloos we end up dropping them. And LOTS of them.
Posted by: MkY at June 21, 2025 11:45 AM (cPGH3)
Julian E. Barnes@julianbarnes
New: US Intel agencies assess that despite Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, Tehran has not made the decision to move to a nuclear bomb. That will likely change, officials say, if the U.S. attacks Fordo or Israel kills the supreme leader.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:45 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:45 AM (lCWOD)
Especially D.C.
Researching the relationships between State, leftist Brits, and the Soviets would be interesting. And not likely to ever happen...
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:45 AM (tubbA)
Not that I know of, but during WWII, Britain basically ran the place. Which is why the Iranians aren't real friendly to Blighty.
Over 50 years ago, I worked in an oriental rug store. Some of the most beautiful pieces we had were Iranian: prayer rugs, mostly, with hunting scenes and floral designs. Some were in lovely wools, but the finest were woven in pure silk: absolutely stunning - and very expensive. But some of the shine came off the apple when the head salesman told me, casually, that most of the rugs were woven by children. Their small hands can make the thousands of fine knots needed to form a Persian carpet. The horrible old shah made all the kids go to school, which put a crimp in the rug-weaving emporia; but the head salesman was happy with the mullahs because they closed the schools and put the kids back to work on the rugs.
Posted by: Nemo at June 21, 2025 11:46 AM (4RPgu)
Most I slept in weekd
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:46 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:47 AM (41CYW)
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:48 AM (tubbA)
New: US Intel agencies assess that despite Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, Tehran has not made the decision to move to a nuclear bomb. That will likely change, officials say, if the U.S. attacks Fordo or Israel kills the supreme leader.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:45 AM (L/fGl)
This does not make sense. Who will be left?
Also, wait I thought they were making a bomb. They were just making the capability? Right.
But if you kill all of us, we're gonna get you!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:48 AM (bss/y)
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"Trans Jewish"? I guess it has to do with circumcision.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:48 AM (L/fGl)
Agreed. Let's not think that we can dictate the successor regime; but let's make it perfectly clear that if said successor regime will "FA" with us, they definitely will "FO".
Posted by: Nemo at June 21, 2025 11:49 AM (4RPgu)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)
I disagree. The MOPs were designed to do this very type of operation. Drop them on Fordow and it will be destroyed. Furthermore Israel has the same objective and they’re clearly all-in on this mission. In the extremely unlikely event that mop-up (see the pun?) operations are needed on the ground the IDF will do that. There is every reason to believe Fordow can be destroyed without American boots on the ground.
I've been reading a bit about whether the MOP, or even multiple MOPs, can do the job, and, to put it mildly, there is doubt. It's always a mistake to simply assume it will work. You need a Plan B and a Plan C. As the saying goes, hope is not a strategy.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:49 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:48 AM (L/fGl)
Did they staple a foreskin on?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:49 AM (bss/y)
>>Two flights of B-2 Spirits, callsigns MYTEE 11 flight and MYTEE 21 flight, comprising an unknown number of aircraft departed from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri, in the early hours of Jun. 21, 2025. Their destination has been noted as Andersen Air Force Base, located on the Pacific island of Guam, rather than the Indo-Pacific outpost of Diego Garcia.
https://tinyurl.com/33yxjaaw
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:50 AM (viF8m)
I think the "unclear" part is whether or not the Mullahs expect to be around with the 12th Imam. They're a nihilistic, strange bunch who sometimes suggest that dying to bring the Imam back is their goal.
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 11:50 AM (xekrU)
Success stories or not, overall, no bad guys ended up keeping their nukes.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:34 AM (hOOi9)
What bad guys had nukes to keep in the first place?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:50 AM (/CkK4)
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The slur in question is "c*nt."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)
Also, wait I thought they were making a bomb. They were just making the capability? Right.
But if you kill all of us, we're gonna get you!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:48 AM (bss/y)
It's been said over and over again, if you were thinking of getting a bomb, the best thing you can do is get a bomb before the U.S. of A. starts "negotiating" with you.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:52 AM (NypQO)
New: US Intel agencies assess that despite Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, Tehran has not made the decision to move to a nuclear bomb. That will likely change, officials say, if the U.S. attacks Fordo or Israel kills the supreme leader.
Only our "Intelligence" agencies could be this obtuse. Do they think the mullahs were building nukes as 4th of July fireworks?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:52 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 11:52 AM (QB+5g)
No more Ayatollahs
No more mullahs
No more Red Guard
No more adherents to such ideas.
Excision
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:53 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 11:53 AM (ZIggv)
Suicidal Empathy is really something that should not be encouraged with young people.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 11:53 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:54 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 11:54 AM (ITkJX)
It’s domestic terrorism that we are having a problem with.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:55 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:55 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 11:52 AM (QB+5g)
lol. Yeah who can forget the thundering successes of Iraq, Lydia and Syria. My bad I forgot to remember that stuff.
Bomb baby bomb!!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:56 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 11:27 AM
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Great stuff. Now many so-called historians are disavowing Foote because he had the gall to appreciate and defend southern culture. How un-woke and gauche. Even Burns has backpedaled on him.
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 21, 2025 11:56 AM (1Au9i)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbq0chC6yI
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 11:57 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Brown Shoes at June 21, 2025 11:57 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:58 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 11:53 AM (ZIggv)
But that still does not make sense. I am missing some bit of nuance.
They move the components offsite. Ok. Most of them are dead, btw.
If we kill Khomeini and/or attack the mountain site, THEN they will assemble and use them?
Who is they, at that point?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:59 AM (bss/y)
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Guam has the facilities the B-2's require... DG was "spartan" in comparison. It's also a stepping stone, relatively speaking, to get to Iran.
Wonder if we've got permission to overfly India and Pakistan?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 11:59 AM (Q4IgG)
Kitten kaboodle
Posted by: Black Eyed Peas at June 21, 2025 11:59 AM (3ImbR)
>>Accused Minnesota assassin wildly claimed in ‘incoherent’ letter that Gov. Tim Walz instructed him to kill Sen. Amy Klobuchar: report
https://tinyurl.com/2r8jkbk4
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 11:52 AM (QB+5g)
lol. Yeah who can forget the thundering successes of Iraq, Lydia and Syria. My bad I forgot to remember that stuff.
Bomb baby bomb!!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:56 AM (/CkK4)
You can only say that because it’s impossible to determine what would have happened if we didn’t take action. In regard to Libya, our action in Iraq made Khadaffi give up his nuke program.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:00 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 12:01 PM (Splbu)
Well Pakistan just nominated Trump for a Nobel so they seem pretty friendly right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 12:02 PM (viF8m)
Starbucks Will Improve Menu to Fit MAHA Initiative
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 12:02 PM (L/fGl)
>>Accused Minnesota assassin wildly claimed in ‘incoherent’ letter that Gov. Tim Walz instructed him to kill Sen. Amy Klobuchar: report
https://tinyurl.com/2r8jkbk4
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
That popped up yesterday. No wonder this story just got covered with a blanket. Guy sounds like his nuts, but a dangerous one for them to try to publicize.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 12:02 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2025 12:03 PM (QSrLX)
We keep looking for boogiemen overseas.....
And I know, I know, Candace is bad. You don't have to tell me.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:03 PM (NypQO)
Guam has the facilities the B-2's require... DG was "spartan" in comparison. It's also a stepping stone, relatively speaking, to get to Iran.
Wonder if we've got permission to overfly India and Pakistan?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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What if the stay in Guam as a deterrent to China?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:03 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2025 12:03 PM (QSrLX)
The Kentucky Derby ladies.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 12:03 PM (bss/y)
Guam may not be the final destination.
I used Anderson AFB on Guam as a resting over-night before refueling the next morning on my way to Cubi Point, another rest/fuel stop, then onward to the final destination of Diego Garcia.
Just sayin'..
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 12:04 PM (Y1sOo)
Sound familiar?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 12:04 PM (/CkK4)
It’s hilariously obvious that the assassin is bad news for the Left and not the Right .
Otherwise it would be front page coverage 24/7 .
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:05 PM (VofaG)
Well Pakistan just nominated Trump for a Nobel so they seem pretty friendly right now.
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Yea, I was thinking about that. And Trump's mediation in their "near nuclear war" last month.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 12:05 PM (Q4IgG)
Even with the enrichment plants disabled or destroyed, there is still that report that Iran has components for 15 nuclear warheads. If that's true, it would include enriched uranium metal, shaped into cores for implosion-type fission bombs. The physics for that design were first worked out by 1945, and have been refined considerably since. The Iranians must have been working out their own version of the design for quite some time.
The nuclear components already accumulated are still a threat. If the report is true.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 21, 2025 12:05 PM (hZ1gu)
Sound familiar?
Peace in our time!
Sound familiar?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t)
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The slur in question is "c*nt."
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Thank you for being my friend!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 12:06 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: polynikes
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Then Hillary killed him and lit the M.E. fuse.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:06 PM (lCWOD)
Sound familiar?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 12:04 PM (/CkK4)
Why exaggerate to support your position ? Is it not strong enough just to argue against the 17 UN violations and attempted assassination of a President which was the basis for the war?
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:07 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:06 PM (lCWOD)
I can’t hate her enough.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 21, 2025 11:56 AM (1Au9i)
That is a real shame. Foote was a southern gentleman in the best sense and an exquisite writer. Burns is a coward…. In many ways, Foote was the star of Burns’ civil war documentary and made it as good as it was
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 12:09 PM (i5Vkf)
Well Bea Arthur was a former. Marine.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:09 PM (VofaG)
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And risk it flipping over?!!!
You're forgetting that B-2s are stealthy. Guam would never even know they were there.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:09 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 12:09 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:10 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 21, 2025 11:56 AM (1Au9i)
Same historians that support the commies in the Spanish Civil War.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:10 PM (VofaG)
I doubt it's anyone's first choice, but there is a threat there that simply must be dealt with. There is no choice. If the Israelis accomplish their goals, or Iranian people overthrow the regime, or (much less likely) the current regime gives up its nuclear sites, materials and programs, then okay. Otherwise, you're simply refusing to acknowledge the problem.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:11 PM (Riz8t)
On a B-2 flight from DGAR, there would be no requirement to get permission from anyone as long as it entered the Gulf of Oman and stayed in the international airspace above the strait.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 12:12 PM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
My favorite Foote story. During WWII, he was a stateside Army officer. He went AWOL to visit a girlfriend and was busted to the ranks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 12:13 PM (L/fGl)
They are currently on my shoulders fighting to the death.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:14 PM (VofaG)
I'm in general agreement with the sentiment but I worry that 1) like a flatworm, decapitation doesn't guarantee termination and 2) the devices are nuclear.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 12:14 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 12:14 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:07 PM (VofaG)
I’m Not exaggerating anything. I lived through it. Saddam = Hitler was practically the phrase of the year in 2002 and 2003. It was all the same bullshit. Fight there so we don’t fight here.
Same bullshit with Iran. I’m expecting Dick Cheney to come out of retirement and tell us how imperative it is we destroy Iran.
And in the 2040s it’ll be some other 3rd world shithole.
Every 20 years or so we send over a few thousand American kids to die in the name of dEmoCraCy, as Boeing and Raytheon jump into a pool of money Scrooge McDuck style.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 12:15 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 12:13 PM (L/fGl)
That is moron type behavior right there! Bewbs were prioritized LoL
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 12:15 PM (i5Vkf)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 12:16 PM (L/fGl)
I took your arguments seriously until you started in with this nonsense. If you're really trying to persuade people, this is not the way to do it.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:16 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 12:16 PM (wBaIH)
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Arthur was jealous that Betty was cute, hot, quick, and straight.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:18 PM (lCWOD)
Still can’t argue against the real reasons we went to war? Hey I understand and like I said I’m conflicted right now myself.
War is an ugly thing……
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:18 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2025 12:19 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 12:19 PM (+qU29)
I took your arguments seriously until you started in with this nonsense. If you're really trying to persuade people, this is not the way to do it.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:16 PM (Riz8t)
So you’re saying we havent sent thousands of kids to die every generation to a shithole country for no reason?
Seriously?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 12:20 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2025 12:21 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 12:21 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025
You're a pal and a confidante.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 12:21 PM (dR6yv)
Not saying it happened but there are several stories connecting the recent earthquake to Fordow.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:21 PM (ZIggv)
Seriously?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 12:20 PM (/CkK4)
There is always a reason . He’s saying the one you proposed doesn’t help your argument.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:21 PM (VofaG)
Seriously?
We sent them for good reasons, as we understood them at the time. The "Scrooge McDuck" nonsense is about as convincing as Nazi pictures of ratlike Jewish arms dealers.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:22 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: bill in arkansas,
If you thought the Ivey League lum's were a bunch of elitest grifters they are rank amatuers compared to the Academy Ring Knockers.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 12:22 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 12:22 PM (tuLbh)
Seriously?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 12:20 PM (/CkK4)
We used to send them once every generation or so.
Now we just never stop sending them.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:23 PM (OqgaI)
Sound familiar?
Peace in our time!
Sound familiar?
Posted by: Archimedes
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Bombing Iraq? OK by me. We should have left when we finished the job. Iraq wasn't the place to focus our attention. But it would have made the point had we quit instead of nation building graft.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:24 PM (lCWOD)
So was Navy flight training at NAS Whiting Field. Not filled, but a new class of a dozen or so Iranian student pilots showed up every six months.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 12:24 PM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 12:22 PM (tuLbh
The one company I want Musk to succeed at so of course it’s the one that talks big and produces nothing.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:24 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 12:25 PM (i24o9)
Not saying it happened but there are several stories connecting the recent earthquake to Fordow.
Posted by: Ben Had
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That quake was, what? About 4.something? That's pretty significant.... I'm a bit dubious about it having anything to do with Fordow.
But I'm not going to rule it out either. Especially if there's no attempts to get to it in the next couple days/week.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 12:26 PM (Q4IgG)
That's a different question than should we just ignore it.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:26 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:28 PM (ZIggv)
The first part got broadcast and a few Alluh Akbar types of Iranians came to protest and stop the rest. A campus reporter got a few shots and they tried to attack him with the claim that the Shah's agents in the US would kill them.
The teacher said "We have freedom of speech here. You do anything like that again, we put those pictures on the front page."
The remaining presentation went without any problems.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 12:28 PM (7xrfc)
Send YOUR kids.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 12:25 PM (i24o9)
I have a nephew who proudly got his commission not that long ago. Has done training to get his jump wings, his Ranger tab, and is now stationed in continental U.S., with his bride, who is expecting her first baby any day now.
I'm picturing her, all in black, with her baby on her lap, getting a flag from someone in uniform saying "On behalf of a grateful nation..."
I'm just not sure which nation is supposed to be grateful.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:28 PM (OqgaI)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2025 12:28 PM (gm9Sb)
The question on the table is a few air strikes (with big bombs) or no air strikes. Israel has done all the hard work already… Iran’s Air Force is gone and their air defenses are barely a threat. By the time we flew this hypothetical mission the B2 would be basically flying a training mission
Should we do that? I say yes… if you say no that’s not a ridiculous position. Now, Tucker Carlson squealing about forever wars in this particular context…. That’s ridiculous
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 12:29 PM (ANuwa)
Posted by: polynikes
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Don't worry, it will. They are going to need those big tunnels on Mars.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:30 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:30 PM (ZIggv)
There is not going to be any US troops in Iran at any point.
I discern an alarming lack of follicular fire here.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:31 PM (Riz8t)
It's working in Las Vegas.
https://tinyurl.com/5ebw9ydm
If Musk has his way it will be digging tunnels on Mars. Virtually every thing he does has a purpose for his Mars vision.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 12:31 PM (viF8m)
New: US Intel agencies assess that despite Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, Tehran has not made the decision to move to a nuclear bomb."
How silly can one be, to take this seriously?
The Iranians have put a tremendous amount of money and effort into hardened sites, centrifuges, and whatever else. What purpose does all that investment have? What else could they use it for?
Posted by: Penultimatum at June 21, 2025 12:32 PM (1QSX/)
There is not going to be any US troops in Iran at any point.
I discern an alarming lack of follicular fire here.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 12:31 PM (Riz8t)
LOL... I was just checking in to see if we had flaming hair going on and indeed we do....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2025 12:32 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Ben Had
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Heh
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 12:32 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:28 PM (OqgaI)
I have two serving nephews and two minor patriotic boys.
Equip and arm Israel to finish it.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 12:35 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:30 PM (ZIggv)
I guess we'll see. Meanwhile, we have troops in Syria, in Iraq, in Saudi Arabia... in several countries in the middle east.
And we have ships in the water.
Some have described our troops in these various places as sitting ducks, as trip wires. Ready to be sacrificed, if we need a reason to go to all out war. Which will inevitably have to include boots on the ground. Unless we just want to lose. Again.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:36 PM (OqgaI)
Do you think there’s a contingency plan if a B-2 goes down inside of Iran? Who goes in then?
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 12:37 PM (LPL2Y)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 12:35 PM (i24o9)
Many people have been predicting an outcome here. Some say Israel has a cakewalk. Some say Iran is NOT going to be anywhere near as "easy" as Iraq or Afghanistan. Or I suppose, Korea or Vietnam. Or the Hooties.
I guess we'll see.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:37 PM (OqgaI)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2025 12:38 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2025 12:38 PM (VE6XX)
If you're asking if Iranian military members being sent to U.S. bases for training stopped after the revolution in 1979, the answer is no.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo)
We have ships and subs in oceans all over the world.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:39 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: KwaK! at June 21, 2025 12:40 PM (89Sog)
I have two serving nephews and two minor patriotic boys.
Equip and arm Israel to finish it.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 12:35 PM (i24o9)
Exactly. My daughter's unit need not be activated for this.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 12:40 PM (dR6yv)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 12:40 PM (+qU29)
We have ships and subs in oceans all over the world.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:39 PM (ZIggv)
Yes, and it is my position that we shouldn't have any of them, anywhere outside the United States.
Period.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:41 PM (OqgaI)
Posted by: moki at June 21, 2025 12:41 PM (wLjpr)
Iran has attacked the US numerous times in the last 4 1/2 decades and they never stop threatening to do worse. They are actively trying to assassinate Trump and members of his current and former administration. And even the assclowns at the IAEA say Iran is enriching uranium which can be used for only one purpose.
Trump obviously does not want to go to war with Iran or anyone else. But he also has to balance that with the obvious fact that Iran refuses to stop sponsoring terrorists that threaten the US and is absolutely trying to develop nukes. We might not want war but Iran might. Whehter we bomb Fordow or not Iran already believes, rightfully, that Israel is our ally and we support them. That makes us the Great Satan.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 12:43 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:44 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Gary Powers at June 21, 2025 12:44 PM (LPL2Y)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:44 PM (ZIggv)
The Houthis, Hezbollah, sleeper cells. ? I don't know
Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2025 12:46 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2025 12:46 PM (VCgbV)
And we have ships in the water.
Some have described our troops in these various places as sitting ducks, as trip wires. Ready to be sacrificed, if we need a reason to go to all out war. Which will inevitably have to include boots on the ground. Unless we just want to lose. Again.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I agree. We should bring them all home, mothball our arms and let Russia or China take over. Think of the money and lives we would save.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:47 PM (lCWOD)
Getting Squatchy in here!
Posted by: James Bobo Fay at June 21, 2025 12:48 PM (R/m4+)
I had so many of them begging me not to flunk them out because they would be sent back and have to serve in the military which was so far beneath them.
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 12:48 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2025 12:48 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: KwaK
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Dead
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:48 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:47 PM (lCWOD)
Take over what?
Being number 1? Why the hell do you care? Seriously, other than being brainwashed into thinking we're supposed to be the good guys, why do you care?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:50 PM (OqgaI)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:51 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2025 12:48 PM (FhXTo)
I'm beginning to think Skynet ain't the bad guys.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:51 PM (OqgaI)
'Seriously, other than being brainwashed into thinking we're supposed to be the good guys, why do you care?'
How do you know you're not the one that's brainwashed?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 12:53 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 12:53 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:51 PM (ZIggv)
Maybe we don't need 1.3 million active duty military personnel.
By the way, how many of those 1.3 million are combat personnel?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:54 PM (OqgaI)
Trump has explicitly said no US troops on the ground, we'll just blow everything up real good if necessary.
Similarly, I'm fine with soft regime change by killing the mad mullahs, but let the Persian people decide what's next (which may well be multiple smaller countries, similar to the breakup of Eastern Europe after their decades of tyranny).
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 12:54 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 12:53 PM (3wi/L)
Who's brainwashing me?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 12:54 PM (OqgaI)
Posted by: Gary Powers
The Soviets possessed the ability to shoot you down.
Iran's ability to down a U.S. or IAF aircraft has been severely degraded. Two more weeks of IAF aircraft pounding Iran's air defense infrastructure will reduce its ability to just about zero.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 12:55 PM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 12:55 PM (QB+5g)
I think there's an intelligence bonanza to be had by getting in there and dismantling it. Destroying it might be an unrealistic option given the radioactive materials the complex is processing... or processed.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 12:55 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 12:55 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: It's me donna
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We have the proper equipment and training to do the bombing job.
The Israelis have done and are still at a good job of clearing out their offensive capability. If there are any remaining that dare come after us consider it a target of opportunity.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 12:56 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:57 PM (ZIggv)
Uranium enrichment plants don't really have an issue with radioactivity.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 21, 2025 12:57 PM (hZ1gu)
In a word, yourself. You could be believing in your confirmation bias so much that complete lies seem like the truth. To You.
Posted by: KwaK! at June 21, 2025 12:58 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: DaveA
Everyone is asking the wrong question.
Wrong Q: "When will Iran get nukes?"
They already have them.
Correct Q: "When will they miniaturize them enough to put it on an ICBM or other delivery missile?"
Fat Man & Little Boy is 80 yr old technology. They just won't fit on the tip of a missile.
With all the help they've received from Russia, Chyna and NORK, you can't make me believe they don't already have the material.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 12:58 PM (aRxqp)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 12:58 PM (aRxqp)
I definitely believe they have them
Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2025 12:59 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: KwaK! at June 21, 2025 12:58 PM (89Sog)
So you're a mindreader.
Got it.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:00 PM (OqgaI)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 01:00 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:09 PM (VofaG)
If the rumors are true, she got kicked out because she was a roundheels who caught the clap.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 21, 2025 01:00 PM (FoIOl)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 12:57 PM (ZIggv)
So... either 1.3 million or zero?
There's no number in between that would be acceptable?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:01 PM (OqgaI)
Got it.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:00 PM (OqgaI)
I said "could". Do you need a definition of that word to help you understand that what I said was only a possibility?
Posted by: KwaK! at June 21, 2025 01:01 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 01:02 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 12:58 PM (aRxqp)
I definitely believe they have them
Posted by: It's me donna a
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That's why Israel and we are doing what we're doing.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:02 PM (lCWOD)
Just kidding. They did this last year.
>>Several explosions were reported near the U.S. Consulate in Erbil, Iraq, an Iraqi security source told ABC News.
>>The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps quickly took responsibility for the attacks, saying it was targeting the "headquarters of spies" and "anti-Iranian terrorist gatherings in parts of the region" with ballistic missiles.
https://tinyurl.com/3y526raz
If we drop bombs in Iran it won't be the start of a war. The war has been going on for decades. How many of our troops were maimed and killed by Iranian IEDs in Iraq? Trump took out Soleimani in his 1st term because he was the terrorist leader that killed many Americans and wanted to kill many more.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 01:03 PM (viF8m)
'Who's brainwashing me?'
I can only speculate but you blew past the facts that JackStraw and others set down about decades of Iranian attacks as though they were irrelevant.
You're arguing from pure emotion with a gravely flawed concept that everything the US has done is wrong and evil, uniquely so. You don't provide any cause and effect showing your point. You just keep laying it down as though it is established fact.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 01:04 PM (3wi/L)
The how is clearly unknown.
But that'd they try isn't.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 01:05 PM (Q4IgG)
Any attempt to recover the materials there would be very obvious.
200 feet underground is a vey effective tomb.
I think everyone wants to know where the current stockpile is located.
Of course some reckless asshole could just give them a bomb if they wanted to die.
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 01:05 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: KwaK! at June 21, 2025 01:01 PM (89Sog)
You're not expecting me to take you seriously, are you?
I've never seen your nic before. I just assume you're a troll.
But since we're playing a game, yes. I COULD be completely deluding myself. Which... if that's true for me, then it's true for everyone else too, so nobody knows anything about anything, and we should all stop believing anything about anyone.
Including who has bombs and who doesn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:06 PM (OqgaI)
Peace is not the default position of mankind and to not prepare is delusional.
When did Noah build the Ark? Before the flood.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 01:06 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:07 PM (tuLbh)
Every time the Iranians launch something at Israel it gives away where the launcher is and the IAF can destroy it. That's been going on for 2+ weeks now, so they're likely running low on things to launch.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 01:07 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Ben Had
And they currently only have one. Which is why we haven't seen "tests" to prove they have them.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 01:08 PM (aRxqp)
Posted by: Ben Had
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None of them need think twice. We've got what's being referred to as an airbridge of giant cargo planes running a 24 hr loop for at least two days from England and western Germany to (I think) a landing spot in south eastern Saudi Arabia. Those planes carry 200,000 lbs each.
Plus F-22s, F-35s and B-2s
If anyone goes aggressive it's going to be happy funtime for the pilots.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:09 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 01:04 PM (3wi/L)
Really? I'm arguing on emotion?
Who has been at war for the past 24 years? Iran? Who has been killing people all over the globe? China?
Yes, the U.S. of A. is uniquely causing millions of people to die... all over the globe. We are. You seem to think you have good reasons for it. Fine. Go keep killing people. If you can sleep at night thinking that makes you the good guy, go right ahead.
But the fact is the fact. Your country has been at war for more than two decades. And you don't seem to want that to stop. I do.
But that means I'm being emotional, I guess. Like that's a bad thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:09 PM (OqgaI)
Ahhh...the old ad hominem.
Of course I'm a troll and you are a cheese eating surrender monkey.
Are we square?
Posted by: KwaK! at June 21, 2025 01:09 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:09 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: pawn, one of many
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Iran has had a nuclear interest/program since 1957. That's almost 70 yrs - i believe they have some capabilities with nukes.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 01:09 PM (41CYW)
When did Noah build the Ark? Before the flood.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 01:06 PM (ZIggv)
I guess we're at an impasse, then.
War it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:11 PM (OqgaI)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 01:11 PM (ZIggv)
I just want to see if they actually work and Iran is the perfect place for such an event.
Do it for science.
Posted by: Old Iron Pants at June 21, 2025 01:11 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:11 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Trump wants every nation, every body to know what we are doing.
It's part of his plan and part of his negotiation. If he is forced to let the dogs loose there will be no back talk only sighs of relief.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:12 PM (lCWOD)
"The overthrow in 1953 was part of a series of Cold War considerations that the United States made with our British allies to check the influence of the Soviet Union in the Middle East and ensure Western access to oil."
We had/have plenty of oil in the West.
Hundreds of years-worth still.
It was only a matter of drilling it and refining it.
Posted by: Speller at June 21, 2025 01:12 PM (pSotA)
I'm picturing her, all in black, with her baby on her lap, getting a flag from someone in uniform saying "On behalf of a grateful nation..."
This being 2025, it's more likely your nephew will return early from deployment as a surprise and find her cheating.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 01:12 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 01:13 PM (ZIggv)
The pristine inversion of actual history, including history this idiot presumably lived through (and was more than 12 years old) renders discussion pointless. It's like trying to enlighten a Palestinian who's obsessed with jooo plots, or a Soviet in the 1970s who actually believed Soviet media. Having done both, no thanks.
Posted by: Some pithy sayings really sum things up at June 21, 2025 01:13 PM (1m82a)
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But mostly to control access to oil.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 11:04 AM
And to deny warm water ports to the Soviet Navy.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 01:14 PM (jc0TO)
I'm picturing her, all in black, with her baby on her lap, getting a flag from someone in uniform saying "On behalf of a grateful nation..."
This being 2025, it's more likely your nephew will return early from deployment as a surprise and find her cheating.
Posted by: Ian S.
I like the Marine Corps old position: "If the Marine Corps had wanted you to have a wife, they would have issued you one".
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 01:15 PM (aRxqp)
'Really? I'm arguing on emotion?'
Yep, you sure are.
Most of the killing the US did was during the Cold War which was a matter of life and death. The US played to win and yes, made mistakes while doing it. The reason you're able to scold me on the internet and tell me what I'm thinking is a product of us winning it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 01:16 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 01:13 PM (ZIggv)
Which is what I keep saying.
But the trolls here like to put words in people's mouths, or call them Puppets of Pootin or whatever else they can come up with.
I don't want my country to go to war. Period. I don't know what to expect... and neither does anyone else.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:18 PM (OqgaI)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:18 PM (lCWOD)
Misdirection is the absolute best tactic at this stage.
Iran's depleting their inventory of ballistic missiles and suicide drones. The factories that build them are compromised. Launchers are getting hit within minutes of launching a missile. The IAF can practically loiter in Iranian airspace with tanker support and pick them off one by one, 24X7.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 01:18 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:19 PM (tuLbh)
Most of the killing the US did was during the Cold War which was a matter of life and death. The US played to win and yes, made mistakes while doing it. The reason you're able to scold me on the internet and tell me what I'm thinking is a product of us winning it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 01:16 PM (3wi/L)
Nonsense.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:19 PM (OqgaI)
Preparing for war does not mean waging it.
Men build their bodies, hone fighting and shooting skills to protect. Not to go out and actively fuck shit up.
Well, some do.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:20 PM (Wtvem)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:18 PM (lCWOD)
This is fun.
You know who else sought peace through strength?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:20 PM (OqgaI)
We're not going to goddamn war. Trump said in one-syllable words "No troops on the ground". We'll stick with what we're good at and avoid the "nation building".
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 01:20 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Plankton at June 21, 2025 01:20 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 01:21 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:22 PM (tuLbh)
After the GWOT and learning about the wars we were lied into? Yeah I’m with you.
However, if we have to go to war, and I mean not for some BS nonsense, then we should hoist the black flag and let them know entire bloodlines will be wiped away.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:22 PM (Wtvem)
I will try to post a photo on the gub thread.
If I could bring myself to buy a French M49/56, I think I will be just about complete. I have US, German, Spanish, British, Italian, Israeli, Austrian, and Australian full sized rifles.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 01:23 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:23 PM (tuLbh)
Absolutely no more calling a Karen lawyer in DC to ask permission to kill the enemy. (We would've killed bin Laden pre-9/11 if not for that).
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 01:24 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:24 PM (Wtvem)
You know who else sought peace through strength?
Posted by: BurtTC
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Come back when you sober up.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:24 PM (lCWOD)
Generally agree but it should be based on true and accurate Intel. Not what we’ve been fed for decades….
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:25 PM (Wtvem)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 01:25 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:24 PM
The Stg is ridiculously overengineered, like a fine watch.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 01:25 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:25 PM (+qU29)
That fucker still hasn’t tipped over?
Asking for a congressman
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:25 PM (Wtvem)
For sure. Anything the CIA "thinks" is right out, because they don't.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 01:26 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:26 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 01:26 PM (jc0TO)
The CIA is a lot of things but one thing nobody ever mentions is, they are a business and business is booming. The entire intel community needs to be razed and rebuilt. Won’t happen but it should. Best we can hope for is good people in charge and wholesale change.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:27 PM (Wtvem)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:28 PM (Wtvem)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:22 PM (Wtvem)
My position is, and people are free to disagree with me, is that we have not been in a "necessary" war since WWII.
But we talk ourselves into them, and each time the new reason is presented as if it's an existential threat.
And then we find out later that it was a lie. So how's about we just pause. Stop. For at least a while. Pull everyone out of the middle east, pull everyone out of Asia, out of Europe, and see what happens.
Or put the Monroe doctrine back in practice. Whatever.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:28 PM (6xOU3)
Same with the State Department. O'Keefe reeled in "another chatty gay guy" (as coined by Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers) who wanted Elon publicly executed by the government.
Marco Rubio fired the guy less than an hour after the video went up, which is good, but it makes you wonder what else is lurking there.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 01:29 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 01:30 PM (aRxqp)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:24 PM (lCWOD)
I'd have to go out and get drunk first.
You know who else didn't drink though.....
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:30 PM (6xOU3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:19 PM (tuLbh)
I'm stealing this.
But remember, stealth is not invisible. It is merely being less visible. Instead of a radar picking you up at say, fifty miles, it can't see you until 25 miles. Bottom line, if you get close enough, the radar will see you.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 01:30 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:28 PM
Maybe 11 lbs with a loaded mag. I should have put it on the scale just now as I was cleaning it.
I will do that today sometime.
The weight is a feature in some ways. I was shooting it off hand and the weight and all the weird roller delayed stuff was really eating up the recoil on what is essentially a 30-06 cartridge.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 01:30 PM (jc0TO)
You’re not going to find much disagreement from me on me. I am looking for a great history of the Cold War as I want to understand it beyond commies v the USA.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:31 PM (Wtvem)
Norah O'Donnell?
Oh, wait, she just rejected Ace's "pudding".
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 01:31 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 01:32 PM (aRxqp)
Imagine sprinting with that thing and hip firing as you dash into cover.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:32 PM (Wtvem)
'Marco Rubio fired the guy less than an hour after the video went up, which is good'
No. It isn't. First you bug them to find out who they're talking to, THEN you fire them.
Posted by: Henry Kissinger at June 21, 2025 01:32 PM (3wi/L)
Imagine sprinting with that thing and hip firing as you dash into cover.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:32 PM
It's like saddling everyone with an M60.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 01:32 PM (jc0TO)
'KFCs are huge overseas for some damn reason.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
So is Spam.'
Coincidence?.....
Yeah, probably.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 01:34 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:31 PM (Wtvem)
There were a few books I read after the fall of the Soviet Union, when their archives were opened. It seems a lot of what we believed at the time was simply not accurate.
One of the things we kept arguing for was the whole domino theory, and in essence what we learned was that the Soviets were basically doing the exact same thing we were doing. In other words, they were "over there" because we were, and we were "over there" because they were.
Another thing we learned is that our CIA was a complete and abysmal failure, from start to finish, and when our agents were not already working for the Soviets, they were easily batted down, because the Soviets knew exactly who they were, where they were, and who their contact behind the Iron Curtain were.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:35 PM (6xOU3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:19 PM (tuLbh)
I'm stealing this.
But remember, stealth is not invisible. It is merely being less visible. Instead of a radar picking you up at say, fifty miles, it can't see you until 25 miles. Bottom line, if you get close enough, the radar will see you.
Posted by: Diogenes
But wrongly telegraphing the movement of invisible planes make neurotics like goat fuckers chase all over the desert. Remember, they still blame Joo dolphins over some stuff.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 01:35 PM (aRxqp)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:35 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 01:35 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:36 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:36 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Same. LOL.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 01:37 PM (aRxqp)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One
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It was the driver. A serious driver.
There is an older series, very good one. I'm amazed it made it on.
"The Americans", it won't answer your question but it will give you a slice of the communist threat.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:37 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 01:38 PM (aRxqp)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:36 PM (YUL+W)
Never pays retail?
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 01:38 PM (rWvc2)
Interesting. I wonder if those archives were an OP too.
Joe McCarthy was right all along. If we would have handled our own internal Commies America would look a lot differently.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:38 PM (Wtvem)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 01:38 PM (IG2sK)
Much easier for adversaries to operate in a free society.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 01:40 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 01:38 PM (rWvc2)
Lolls around in the warm water having a schvitz.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:40 PM (YUL+W)
I’ve no doubt that wasn’t a driver. Communism is a weird virus that just consumes and consumes until it can’t find a host but still somehow survives without one.
I’m just saying there had to be more. Maybe I’m wrong and willing to admit as much.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:40 PM (Wtvem)
True. I’m still making my way through Witness by Whittaker Chambers.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:42 PM (Wtvem)
Objectivism understands people better but is too cynical on the other end.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:44 PM (YUL+W)
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A video surfaced this morning of some fuckwad claiming he just applied for a job with ICE.... for the specific intent of telling "the Mexican community" where ICE is operating.
I'd bet even money he gets through the interview process.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 01:46 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:42 PM (Wtvem)
A useful temporary idiot who saw the light and came out of the darkness.
David Horowitz is our generations Whitaker.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 01:48 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:48 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One
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There are always ancillary things.
We had just finished WWII, Stalin ruled Russia and Stalin was as insane or more than Hitler. It was a viscous and ruthless period.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:48 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:49 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:50 PM (YUL+W)
We had just finished WWII, Stalin ruled Russia and Stalin was as insane or more than Hitler. It was a viscous and ruthless period.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:48 PM (lCWOD)
The 1948 Berlin blockade and subsequent airlift is a quandary for me as I can't decide if brilliant strategy or resulted in kicking the can down the road for 40 years of negative consequences .
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 01:51 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:22 PM (Wtvem)
There is a scale to conflict.
If attacked by a "lone wolf" and you catch him, trial and execution.
If sponsored by a non-state actor, find and execute the group.
If a state sponsored attack, hammer the state. This can be proportional. A one time event vs continuous low level conflict.
If a true act of war, ala Pearl Harbor or Oct 7th, then total war. This is existential war fighting. No end until victory.
But...total war is influenced by the environment. Who and where is the enemy? How are they equipped? What will it take to win? And what does victory look like?
Simple questions with difficult answers.
Iran will be easy to bomb, but "winning" will be very difficult.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 01:52 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 01:52 PM (qgNn3)
'I’m just saying there had to be more. Maybe I’m wrong and willing to admit as much.'
The US, in the earliest stages of the Cold War was deeply concerned about European and Asian countries weakened by WWII turning Communist. The Soviet Union had an aggressive infiltration network in those countries.
I hate to recommend this since CNN is the source but I would watch The Cold War miniseries on YouTube.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 01:52 PM (3wi/L)
Joe McCarthy was right all along. If we would have handled our own internal Commies America would look a lot differently.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 21, 2025 01:38 PM (Wtvem)
Someone way more committed to it than I would have to sort it out. I do believe there were legit scholars who were allowed to peruse the archives. I'm also sure there were operatives, both CIA and Russian, who decided to misdirect when and where they could.
And eventually, I assume the Russians basically figured out they didn't need to air all their dirty laundry, so they stopped letting any of the "good stuff" get out.
Sorta like how our Deep State is never going to allow us to see the real files on JFK/RFK murders, or the Epstein op.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:53 PM (R2uDs)
Winning to me is if the action somehow allows for a popular successful uprising . It's failed previously unfortunately.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 01:54 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 01:54 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:54 PM (lCWOD)
As Ali Larijani, former parliament speaker and advisor to #Iran's regime's supreme leader, threatens the IAEA director-general, worth recalling his daughter lives and works in the United States.
As the regime in Iran has been holding Americans hostage (there have been unconfirmed reports of Americans seized in recent days), the U.S. allows family members of the Islamic Republic's officials to reside here. There's something wrong with that picture.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 01:55 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 01:50 PM (YUL+W)
Oh, you said "Stalin."
I misread that at first, I thought it said "damn near every politician in DC."
I should put on my glasses. Or start drinking, as has been suggested.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 01:56 PM (R2uDs)
Gideon Sa'ar | גדעון סער@gidonsaar . 1h
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps – the terror arm of the Iranian regime – tried to carry out an attack on Israeli citizens in Cyprus.
Thanks to the activity of the Cypriot security authorities, in cooperation with Israeli security services, the terror attack was thwarted.
Israel thanks Cyprus for its swift and effective actions.
The Iranian criminal regime is deliberately targeting Israeli civilians both in Israel and abroad.
Israel will continue to act to remove the existential threat posed by the Iranian terror regime
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 02:00 PM (lCWOD)
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The Soviets infiltrated the US too. They're still here. Or their prodigies are. Many are probably in government, others in the media and, of course, in academia.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 02:02 PM (Q4IgG)
I wonder if Karen Reade is available for courting.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:03 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 02:03 PM (+qU29)
'The Soviets infiltrated the US too. They're still here. '
It was so successful it survived the collapse of the USSR.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 02:03 PM (3wi/L)
I wonder if Karen Reade is available for courting.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:03 PM (rWvc2)
Don't let her drive.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 02:04 PM (R2uDs)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 02:02 PM (Q4IgG)
David Horowitz exposed what we all knew with facts.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:04 PM (rWvc2)
'I wonder if Karen Reade is available for courting.'
She's so hot she'll knock you off your feet.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 02:04 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 02:08 PM (tuLbh)
A video sent to Iran International shows damage to the cyber police (FATA) headquarters in Tehran, which monitors online activity and has prosecuted citizens over social media content.
https://tinyurl.com/wfcrw4t4
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 02:11 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 01:54 PM (rWvc2)
Agreed.
It's going to take the people there to make it happen. Their boots in other words, not ours. Iran is huge. It's 700 miles from Kuwait City to Tehran. 900 miles from Van Turkey. Our Army isn't big enough to seize and hold that terrain.
And even if it could, I'm not so sure they'd be greeted with cheering crowds.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 02:15 PM (W/lyH)
The 57 could also mount an optic which would take it north of 19lbs. We are getting into BAR territory.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 02:15 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 02:16 PM (jc0TO)
I wonder if Karen Reade is available for courting.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:03 PM (rWvc2)
A friend of mine was a Tacoma cop. We'd go grab a beer from time to time at the local cop hangout. Cop groupies are hawt.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 02:18 PM (W/lyH)
And even if it could, I'm not so sure they'd be greeted with cheering crowds.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 02:15 PM
It is mostly not tank country either.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 02:18 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 02:19 PM (qgNn3)
Last night, Netanyahu announced that IDF intel has learned that Iran has 22,000 ballistic missiles in reserve!!
Unfortunately, Israel doesn't have anywhere near that level of munitions on hand.
While I (and a great many other supporters of Israel) are completely against America joining in preemptive military strikes on Iran: the US definitely needs to increase its military aid to Israel. They're set to run out of munitions in the next few weeks.
And they're not going to be able to defend themselves against Iranian retaliation without a BIG boost from us.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 02:19 PM (+oqUV)
Ali Khamenei has instructed Hezbollah chief Naim Qassem to join the fighting and launch missiles at Israel.
Qassem is refusing to engage, fearing that the IDF will destroy Hezbollah in response.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 02:21 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 02:18 PM (jc0TO)
There are hundreds of square miles of desert there that have a crusted surface but if you break through it, beneath are "flowing rivers of sand.".
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 02:25 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 02:18 PM (W/lyH)
Yeah I noticed that in all places, Poughkeepsie NY when I hung out at cop get togethers as a friend of a friend.
The cop who my friend was a friend with was crooked as shit and either killed himself or was killed. Was missing for months and found him floating in the Hudson after the ice flows melted. The FBI had been searching for him . Even tapped my friend's phone ( my friend was a straight arrow who wasn't involved)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:25 PM (rWvc2)
Just as well the bulk of that midwit (if that) Quillette article is paywalled, because I already know it is not worth reading.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 02:26 PM (uxZu+)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 02:27 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 02:25 PM
I was looking at the topo and big mountain ranges running NW to SE. Two between Tehran and the Persian gulf.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 02:28 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 02:28 PM (jc0TO)
Yup!
Not maneuver friendly at all.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 02:30 PM (W/lyH)
Qassem is refusing to engage, fearing that the IDF will destroy Hezbollah in response.
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This Qassem dude seems to have his finger on the pulse of the IDF. The Mossad probably called his cellphone and told him Khamenei can't keep him from being blown up tomorrow either, if he abides.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 02:31 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:31 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 02:37 PM (qgNn3)
The hardest part of accepting the hard truth that Iran is at most 19 months away from acquiring a nuclear weapon is the first 20 years.
- Just sayin'.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 02:39 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 02:40 PM (tuLbh)
This is why it may be necessary to take out their underground nuclear facilities with nuclear bunker busters. It is a question of our survival.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 02:40 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 02:41 PM (uxZu+)
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Routine. I've seen one of the E-4B "Doomsday" planes a number of times as they practice refueling overhead.
I'm under one of the CONUS air refueling tracks, so when they're up training I see all sorts of stuff overhead. They're at 20 some odd thousand feet, well below commercial air lanes.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 02:44 PM (Q4IgG)
- Emily Litella
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 02:46 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 02:48 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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Trump is putting so many assets in the region to deter any thought of joining in. The Israelis are doing a good job on Iranian sites and actors we need to keep them supplied with materiel.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 03:01 PM (lCWOD)
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The OnCue convenience stores in OKC have started offering fried spam sandwiches that come with a thick slice of fried spam, barbecue sauce, and mustard on a regular sized bun. At $1.99 for the sandwich or $2.69 for the sandwich and a fountain drink, its a good deal.
Posted by: Crusader at June 21, 2025 03:03 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 03:04 PM (qgNn3)
I’d buy that for a dollar! (or $1.99, as the case may be.)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 03:08 PM (qgNn3)
Nobody really knows. It probably can't dig a crater that deep, but it might collapse the underground structure. It depends on the engineering and materials that went into it, and that we don't know.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 03:09 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 03:11 PM (tuLbh)
Live feed video of reenactment of Battle of Bunker Hill
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:11 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Archimedes
Then err on the side of caution and nuke Fordow until it glows, Emily Litella notwithstanding! Make the rubble bounce!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 03:14 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 03:14 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 03:16 PM (tuLbh)
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I don't think so. It was designed with the caves in Tora Bora in mind that our existing penetrators at the time couldn't reach. IIRC one was used on a Houthi hideout in Yemen earlier in the year. That was a cave-like structure that a bunch of their leadership was using.
The damage, at least from what video and photos I've seen, wasn't as impressive as you'd think. It did kill a lot of the Houthi terrorists however.
A big problem with Fordow is aimpoints. Where, exactly, under those mountains is this facility and more specifically, where's the chamber with the centrifuges that are, as I understand it, the primary target.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 03:16 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 03:14 PM
It handles fairly well despite the length and weight. At least as well as other full power battle rifles. Balances right where your left hand goes on the ridiculously small front handguard.
It's not for door kickers though.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 03:19 PM (jc0TO)
gKWVE @ comment #355
Pitiful, puerile name calling is not an argument.
Let us know when you come up with one.
(- NOT holding my breath.)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 03:20 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 03:24 PM (qgNn3)
- Just sayin'.
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I have no problem just accepting the *reality* that any nation that declares they WOULD use a nuke against us makes them a declared enemy. How quickly we should or shouldn't act is another discussion, but hair-splitting over whether they are 20 days, 20 months, or 20 years away from acquiring one doesn't matter to me. IF they've stated they would use a nuke against us, they need to b e destroyed and removed from power. Even if they were 20 years away, how do we know China wouldn't hand them a nuke tomorrow? Regime chance is necessary.
Posted by: Crusader at June 21, 2025 03:24 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:25 PM (+qU29)
To remind you of my argument (which seems to have gone clear over you silly little head):
The consortium of Western intelligence communities (including our vaunted CIA) has been direly warning that Iran is mere months - not more than a year and some change! - from building a nuclear bomb. And they've been peddling this same LIE for more than 20 years.
Now having seen our own intelligence community weaponize itself against both candidate Trump and sitting President Trump for several years: When are we going to STOP BELIEVING THEIR LIES?
- Just wonderin'.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 03:25 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 03:26 PM (tuLbh)
As much as I hate the Iranian regime, they have never declared that should they acquire a nuclear weapon that they'd launch it against us.
If the Supreme Leader of Iran had EVER suggested such a thing, we would hear no end of that fact on Faux News and from the likes of warmonger Lindsey Graham.
They hate us. We hate them. But the leadership in Iran has never said it intended to use nuclear weapons against us.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 03:28 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 03:16 PM (tuLbh)
No, though you've already set off a nuke, so I'm not sure why you're asking.
You need fairly specific conditions to get the fissile material concentrated enough to get the reaction going (for example, an implosion device uses charges which deliver force from many directions inward, which results in the desired concentration at the center of your material). A nuclear blast at any significant distance (which it will be since the reason your even considering using your own is that you can't penetrate to the lab) will deliver force that spreads out the target's material.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 03:29 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 03:31 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 03:33 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 03:35 PM (lCWOD)
https://youtu.be/RvN_rAgsBQU
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 03:36 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 03:37 PM (qgNn3)
Soon, they will be part of the past.
The Ayatollah has given instructions, the names of three men to choose a successor from if he is killed. A list with targets of opportunity. Thank you.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 03:39 PM (lCWOD)
I am all in favor of arming and aiding Israel TO THE HILT! (They already have nukes; so we shouldn't arm them with any of those.)
And if there was actually ANY good reason to believe that Iran was on the verge of acquiring a nuclear bomb, I believe we'd have to look seriously at the option of full scale invasion and weigh the terrible costs we'd have to pay as a nation to launch such a war.
But that's not the situation we are in. We should only be dealing with the situation we are actually in. Not some hypothetical situation we have continuously been lied into fantasizing about for decades now.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 03:48 PM (+oqUV)
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Probably. US policy has been (afaik) not to use them first, though bio/chem attacks us might be enough to justify them. It would have to be pretty bad, since 9/11 didn't kill enough of us to justify their use against Afghanistan in the eyes of President Bush.
There's probably a deterrent argument to be made that the attempt to develop them by a belligerent is grounds enough to use them preemptively, but it's ultimately President Trump's decision and I don't see him making it.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 03:52 PM (Dnobf)
Hey, remember just a couple years ago the rumor (which turned out to have zero factual basis, by the way) which the Western intelligence community floated that Putin had expressed an intention to use tactical nukes in Ukraine?
Why, we were just horrified! I mean, the very thought was evil incarnate!
And now here WE are calmly discussing whether we should use a nuclear bomb on Iran.
Enough of the rank hypocrisy, already!!
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 03:55 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Crusader at June 21, 2025 03:57 PM (TN0g+)
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Not many of us have been discussing that. From what I understand a nuke won't accomplish the objective (destroying the bunker 200 feet underground)--it would merely kill anyone unfortunate enough to be above ground nearby. Nuking Iran is a bit of a strawman at this point.
Posted by: Crusader at June 21, 2025 03:59 PM (TN0g+)
Now all that said, I've also got to say that the Stacey Abrams bomb option has both merit and promise!
- Just hopin'!
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 04:00 PM (+oqUV)
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Who is this "we" you're talking about?
I don't care about Ukraine, and wouldn't be terribly surprised to see anyone use tactical nukes if the situation required it. There just aren't that many situations that would require it.
I'm sure we had discussions here about whether they'd be of using against mountain caves in Afghanistan, but maybe you weren't here for that.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 04:01 PM (Dnobf)
I agree, Crusader. I don't believe that nuking Iran is under any kind of consideration for President Trump. (I sure hope not!)
But the media (including Faux News) have been calmly discussing it as something our military brass has been considering.
And the media has not expressed alarm over the insanity of such a measure.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 04:03 PM (+oqUV)
Sorry - I didn't mean to suggest that most commenters here at Ace of Spades weren't horrified at the notion of using nuclear weapons to attack Iran.
Not my intention at all.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 04:04 PM (+oqUV)
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There was some discussion of a nuclear bunker buster a couple of days ago, but from what I recall, in order to combine "nuclear" and "bunker buster" you'd need a such a small device, that the yield would be less than what we used against Japan. And it didn't sound like it would be much more effective than the MOP, it'd be more about making a statement.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 04:05 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 04:06 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 04:11 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 04:12 PM (Dnobf)
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Is that what the Israeli ambassador was hinting at, maybe?
I was wondering what they could do to compete with Grim Beeper, given that most of Iran's generals were already dead.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 04:14 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 04:23 PM (qgNn3)
tinyurl.com/dczeapps
That is I believe called "plausible deniability". Cute little implications with, in this case, a threat behind them. But, you know that. You know all about cute little implications.
MY real question is - does Back in Blacksodomize goats?
Just spitballing here. Well, not on any members as might be introduced into los cabritos.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 04:29 PM (uxZu+)
Don't couch it in "don't shoot the messenger! I'm just askin' questions! I'm just exercising my Murrkin Rights!"
You do that, I see through your rhetoric. And I have contempt for it, and for you.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 04:31 PM (uxZu+)
gKWVE,
When I enter the dczeapps into TinyURL it says "invalid" link.
Got anything, better? (- Serious, respectful question.)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 04:33 PM (+oqUV)
gKWVE,
I've made the argument repeatedly now. By their comments, others here have clearly understood the argument. But as I said, my argument appears to have gone over your silly little head.
But your contemptuous contempt is quite amusing.
- Keep it up, bro!
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 04:36 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 04:37 PM (qgNn3)
gKWVE,
Hey, why don't you just provide the quote (and its date) of Iran's Supreme Leader threatening to use nukes against us.
Let the commenters here judge for themselves whether you've actually discovered a relevant fact.
Provide the quote, please.
(Just for you... I'll hold my breath on this one.)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 04:39 PM (+oqUV)
Okay, gKWVE, that was 7 breaths I held! - Just for you!
(Admittedly, the last 6 were me holding my nose due to the putrid lack of substance of your comments. But, hey, they were still just for you!)
Can't help but notice that you have absolutely no relevant substance in the way of either fact or argument to offer. (- Just sayin'.)
Do you need more time?
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 04:45 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Crusader at June 21, 2025 04:55 PM (TN0g+)
You're on the right track but it's the goats sodomizing him.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 04:56 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 05:03 PM (W/lyH)
Multiple, independent engineers have publicly thrown cold water on the notion that conventional munitions (including the ‘almighty’ bunker busters) will reliably destroy the facilities fortified deep under a MOUNTAIN RANGE at Fordow.
Hint: these facilities are not housed in a mere bunker. This is not the Taliban or Osama Bin Laden holed up in a hideaway bunker a few dozen meters beneath the earth’s surface. These facilities dug in DEEP under a MOUNTAIN protected by multiple layers of specially designed, heavily-steel-reinforced concrete. The fantasy that conventional munitions are going to eliminate these facilities is… well, an out of touch fantasy.
Preemptively attacking Iran using a nuclear weapon to get the job done is an evil fantasy – indulged only by deranged minds.
That only leaves one ‘feasible’ option: Full-Scale Invasion ala Iraq 2003. I am completely against this. But anyone who is not arguing for waging Full-Scale War against Iran to end its nuclear program cannot be taken seriously about the US launching a military strike on Iran for the purposes of ending its supposed nuclear program.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:11 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 05:12 PM (tuLbh)
Won't know until it's tried.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:12 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:16 PM (jc0TO)
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Strawman.
Assumes your prefacing "facts" to be *facts*. Also assumes that war is akin to a light switch (on/off) rather than a dimmer switch (0-10).
Posted by: Crusader at June 21, 2025 05:17 PM (TN0g+)
But, if what we have can't do the job, other bad actors will be heartened *cough*NK*cough*.
So knowing is a trade-off.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:19 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Saber Alter at June 21, 2025 05:21 PM (AZg1Q)
I agree, toby928, that no one can be certain unless it's tried.
But there is an extremely high-probability that it will fail.
Regardless, if we bomb Iran, the Iranians will likely send barrages of hyper-sonic (mach-13) ballistic missiles at our many bases located throughout the region. We currently do NOT have the ability to defend against these hyper-sonic weapons. We're not even close!
With their hyper-sonic missiles, Iran has utterly bypassed Israel's Iron Dome and landed every single one its launched.
We will fair no better.
And then, after American many soldiers are killed: we will likely commit to a Full Scale War.
Is this REALLY what we want???
(Spoiler alert: NO!!!!!)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:22 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:23 PM (jc0TO)
(Spoiler alert: NO!!!!!)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:22 PM
I've been in favor of war with Iran for forty years.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:24 PM (jc0TO)
toby928, on that contentious point we'll just have to agree that we don't agree.
But can you see how our conventionally bombing Iran will likely lead to Iran retaliating against our military bases with the same hyper-sonic missiles they've repeatedly struck Israel with and that this will in turn lead to us going to Full-Scale War with Iran?
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:27 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:27 PM
Sure.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:28 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Israel controls the skies then control the perimeter
bring in a couple of D-11s and dig a 200 ft crater
then bomb it.
Or maybe the guys inside would like a safe exit and leave the doors open.
Anyone call 'em up and ask?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 05:28 PM (lCWOD)
Ah, toby928, that is an honest answer.
And while I completely disagree with it. I respect you for offering it.
And that is exactly what we should be discussing.
Are we really READY to preemptively provoke a Full-Scale War with Iran?
You say yes. I respectfully say no.
Any other discussion is not serious. It's fantasy.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:29 PM (+oqUV)
(By the way, I once was also in favor of making preemptive war on the monstrously evil Iranian regime. While I still hate the Iranian regime, admittedly, I have changed my position on preemptively making war on them.)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:33 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 05:33 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 05:34 PM (qgNn3)
How many times? I've heard you.
If you haven't swayed the audience by the power of your argument, repeating it isn't going to make it more convincing.
We have discussed this for over a week now at the HQ. Your opinion is among the minority here, not alone by any stretch and maybe only barely a minority considering the many variations possible, but less than half.
I am about talked out about something that I can't directly effect or anticipate. We will know how things turn out when they turn out.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:39 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Ah, the Spirit of Entebbe! Go IDF, go! Events on the ground may obviate all discussion here!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM
*crosses fingers*
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:45 PM (+oqUV)
(But while it's always good to rehash the pros and cons of an honest argument, [what else is the ace comments section for?], I will also always be an advocate for exposing hypocritical, evil fantasists whenever they rear their deranged heads. Those, after all, only serve to muddy the waters of coherent dialogue.)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:49 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 05:49 P
What would we do without you.
Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:51 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 06:01 PM (+oqUV)
(I like to think of myself as carrying on the tradition of Socrates as an Athenian gadfly.
...With some fair emphasis on the gadfly portion.)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 06:03 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 06:25 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 06:26 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 06:45 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 07:52 PM (qgNn3)
Socrates argued against both the ridiculous (WEAPONIZED) charges against him and against his death penalty. He did not want to be convicted and he did not want to die. But he was the ultimate patriotic citizen who felt a sacred duty (Jesus hadn't made the scene yet) to uphold Athenian law. He is the originator of the social compact a dutiful citizen shares with the State.
The sick, corrupt Athenian State government condemned him to death with most thinking that he would do what every one else did: bribe the guard, escape, and go into self-exile for a couple of years. Then return, and everyone pretends like the matter is settled.
Not Socrates.
His explicit message (see the Crito) was that in order for a healthy society to function and thrive, its laws must be taken seriously and obeyed by patriotic citizens. He was not going to join in the corrupt sham of flaunting Athenian law.
Me? I don't worship at the altar of democracy.
I worship only the Holy Father and my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
(But is there much doubt that if you, Nemo, could impose such a grim penalty that you would? - Call it a rhetorical question.)
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 08:05 PM (+oqUV)
By the way, Captain Nemo, I've been posting comments here at Ace of Spades since just before the 2004 election. I still remember ace's hilarious posts of traitorous John Kerry's secret Vietnam confessionary journal.
Since you've randomly declared me to be a "troll" - an amusing assertion, to be sure, - I'm just curious: How long have you been posting here?
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (+oqUV)
Ah, Deranged Neocon Captain Nemo, it was an absolute pleasure exposing the sheer lunacy of your maniacal desire to make real the utter fantasy of deploying a nuclear device on a sovereign country in order to destroy an underground bunker.
Truly entertaining.
Now grab your Vaseline, go to your bunk, and fantasize away, you sick warmonger.
- Cheers!
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 21, 2025 08:18 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (Dnobf)
@zerohedge
*TRUMP: COMPLETED SUCCESSFUL ATTACK ON 3 NUCLEAR SITES IN IRAN
*ISRAEL NOTIFIED BY TRUMP ADMIN BEFORE US STRIKING IRAN: AXIOS
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (Dnobf)
Here's hoping!
Posted by: The 13th Imam at June 21, 2025 11:09 AM (Y1sOo)
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Sounds like The Paolo no?
Posted by: Ciampino - are they shiiiiiiiits at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (sPQoU)
Communism and communists were an existential threat to America. Directly. You know it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:29 AM (lCWOD)
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Communism and communists
FIFY
Posted by: Ciampino - are they reds at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (sPQoU)
The Classical Saturday Morning Coffee Break & Prayer Revival
Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Mosinee) 1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice. The troll's tear ducts are overworked.
3) Nope, no, not a chance. No running with sharp objects.
4) Have a great weekend!
AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo atsign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update. Prayer Requests: 5/3 – D asked for prayers for his wife, Susan, who has been having some issues. They went to the hospital on 5/1, and all the signs are pointing to pancreatic cancer. They meet with other doctors on 5/5. Any prayers would be a blessing.
6/5 Update – The doctors have confirmed it is cancer, but they have not yet determined if it can be removed, or if chemotherapy will be needed first, to shrink the mass. They are so thankful for all the prayers and ask for them to continue. 5/10 – Cosda asked for prayers for his wife, who recently had a mole removed that came back as melanoma cancer. She is scheduled for surgery next week, and it looks like that should remove it completely.
6/11 Update – Pathology of the lymph node taken during surgery indicates metastatic cancer cells. Now she will have a brain MRI and a PET scan the week of 6/16. She is classified as stage 3. 5/17 – neverenoughcaffiene asked for prayers for her sister-in-law, Jackie, who is looking at dialysis. Her kidneys have been failing for several years is she is getting close based on her numbers. Hopefully new meds will help.
5/24 – The new meds have not helped. Her score for kidney function is 16, and the trigger for dialysis is 15. 5/17 – B asked for prayers for the Lord to move a bowel food constriction or “kink” out so that his bowels would function properly.
5/31 Update – B sent his thanks for the prayers. He is healed from the bowel obstruction. He requested prayers for his friend, Jerry, who is in the hospital needing surgery for an ulcer and MRSA, and another friend, Mary, who is fighting cancer. 5/23 – Hrothgar asks for prayers for a dear friend’s son. Tim battled cancer 20 years ago, but has been living with kidney disease for several years. It has progressed to the point that he needs a transplant. In a real blessing, he was approved for the transplant list. Please pray for Tim, that he would receive a donated kidney. There is no cost to the donor, and the donor generally goes on to live a full life with just one kidney, and it would make a huge difference for Tim, versus long-term dialysis.
5/31 Update – Tim must lose 50 pounds in the next 90 days to remain on the transplant list, and he is thinking that is impossible. Please pray that he realizes what a God-given blessing he has been given to reach this point, and that he makes the right lifestyle choices to lose that weight. 5/24 – Captain Obvious requested prayers for his friend J, who will be having surgery on 6/9 to try and relieve her chronic pain. She also has concerns because she is on blood thinners and nearly bled out after her hip replacement. Please pray for the best possible outcome and also to relieve her anxiety.
6/12 Update – J had her surgery on 6/9 and it went very well; the surgeon had to do less work than he originally thought. J is already experiencing relief from the chronic pain she had. Thanks to all for the prayers. 5/24 – L sent an update. Her daughter, Shannon, the Franciscan sister who we prayed for when she had heart surgery, is much improved. There were some setbacks along the way – a problem with defibrillation and a respiratory infection - but she is healed now and will take her final vows soon. L is also much improved, after her knee implant surgery. 5/29 – Teresa in Fort Worth sent an update and her thanks for all the prayers and words of encouragement. They have sustained her and her family as she continues to battle cancer. She continues to receive good news: her oncologist is quite pleased with her response to the current medication protocol; they are decreasing the lab work frequency to every other week instead of weekly; the side effects from chemo have been barely noticeable; she can just take 4 tiny pills for chemo instead of spending one day a week at the cancer center. It’s been 7 months so far, and she expects that at some point the tumors will start growing again, but for now, they are encouraged.
6/6 Update – Teresa has a side effect from the chemo – her fingernails and toenails are starting to loosen and “lift” off their nail beds. It is painful, and also carries a risk of infection. 6/4 – Grumpy and Recalcitrant asked for prayers for his mother (Lynda), asking to give her strength and healing. Also, for the medical staff to be prompted to do a complete and thorough job diagnosing her.
6/7 Update – Lynda has been diagnosed with aortic stenosis. This is a correctable medical issue using surgery where they go in endoscopically via the leg, up to the heart, to fix the lower heart valve that is leaking. 6/6 – tbodie Lurker requested prayers for his son, tbodie Jr, who is in his mid-30s and was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Please pray for healing for tbodie Jr and for peace for his family. 6/11 – Legally Sufficient asks the Horde’s prayers for her friend, Bubba, who was in a bad auto wreck on 6/8. Prayers for comfort, healing, and strength are needed for Bubba and his family. He is in ICU and will be there for a couple more weeks. Thank you!
6/18 Update – Legally Sufficient asks for continued prayers for healing, strength, and comfort for Bubba. God is great! Bubba is recovering from pneumonia (on top of the other injuries from his vehicle accident) but he is fully participating in PT, walking 25 steps a day with assistance, his breathing is improving, and he is finally eating solid food! Prayers for Bubba, his wife and family, and Bubba’s many friends are very much appreciated. 6/14 – MkY sent an update on his wife Judy’s battle with kidney cancer. Like Teresa in Ft. Worth, her tumors are shrinking. The shrinkage is so dramatic, they are discussing removing the cancerous kidney. Since that is the original source, that would make it easier to attack and perhaps kill the other tumors. Thank you so much for the prayers. 6/14 – Our Country is Screwed sent prayers of thanksgiving for all the thoughts and prayers as chemo continues. It has really been uplifting. The side effects have been minimal as well, thankfully, and there are 8 weekly treatments to go. 6/14 – Inspector Cussword requested prayers for Brother Tim. He has had a horrible time, living in his car and has just been handed a cancer diagnosis. Please pray for God’s Provision to be clear and comforting to him, and for his healing. 6/14 – Inogame asked for prayers for his wife and family. It’s very early, but they may have baby #5 on the way. They appreciate the support and prayers of the Horde. 6/20; Prayers have been requested for guest Open Blogger and all around good guy Jay Guevara. He has been hospitalized with "brain bleed". For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update. 2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:05 AM (j/yko)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 08:07 AM (ZOv7s)
Prayers up for those who need them but haven't asked us for them;
Prayers up for those that need them but don't know it yet;
Prayers up for those that pray alone in silence whose petitions are known only to God;
And bless all those that have sought Your wisdom, heard Your answers, and are trying to do Your will on this Earth!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 08:08 AM (hOUT3)
Good morning, horde. Lemme go review the prayer list and say my prayers for all y'all.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2025 08:10 AM (h7ZuX)
Pool's open....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 08:11 AM (Q4IgG)
Admitting your problem is the first step to recovery and a fulfilling understanding of giraffes.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at June 21, 2025 08:14 AM (QXQ4l)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:15 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 08:16 AM (t9lPv)
Posted by: Giraffe with a full pot of coffee at June 21, 2025 08:16 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 08:17 AM (EVFZ5)
First appointment: Introduction, explanation of my symptoms, plan laid out.
All following appointments: The spirit of Torquemada looking at what they are doing and saying "Dude! Ease back a bit."
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 08:18 AM (7xrfc)
The elephant has much the same dilemma as the giraffe sucking up coffee through its trunk...
...on the other hand by that time the elephant's coffee is full of boogers, so Yuck!
Stupid elephants and their booger coffee...
...still better than Starbucks.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 08:19 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 08:18 AM (7xrfc)
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Don't forget to slap some hot iron on it. Really speeds up the healing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 08:19 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:15 AM (tuLbh)
Simple, no filters and ground coffee for those without the thumb thingys.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at June 21, 2025 08:21 AM (QXQ4l)
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 21, 2025 08:21 AM (gbOdA)
...still better than Starbucks.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 08:19 AM (iJfKG)
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That's a delightful thought.
I imagine that elephants would rinse first, perhaps by hosing down a neighbor.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 08:21 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 08:18 AM (7xrfc)
The only way to get any satisfaction from rehab is to hit it so hard and so often, that eventually Torquemada says "Mr Pax, we can't do any more for you here, so you really need to stop coming in five days a week, please!"
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 08:22 AM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:15 AM (tuLbh)\
With an eighteen inch tongue.
Posted by: Gene Simmons at June 21, 2025 08:22 AM (pIfcn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 08:22 AM (2GCMq)
Fen: Prayers up for you and your congregation!!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 08:25 AM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2025 08:26 AM (kOluj)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2025 08:26 AM (Vfq+S)
Posted by: H at June 21, 2025 08:26 AM (2gjbv)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2025 08:27 AM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 21, 2025 08:28 AM (hU7GI)
Because if so I might need to visit my doctor for an internal disorder I've had for a long, long time.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 21, 2025 08:28 AM (Bg/TD)
https://tinyurl.com/yc3ywtuy
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 08:29 AM (y/YiV)
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at June 21, 2025 08:29 AM (J8OCH)
https://tinyurl.com/y6hm95ra
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 08:30 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 08:22 AM (2GCMq)
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I read an article on First Things about how Mainline Denominations are been squeezed between orthodoxy and evangelicals. You might find it interesting: https://tinyurl.com/2jt9yjt5
TL
R: A majority of Christians are Catholic/Orthodox, and a growing segment of the rest prefer a "direct contact" with Jesus, without ordained ministers, sacraments and the various elements of what the author calls Reformation Churches. It's not clear how this trend can be reversed.Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 08:31 AM (ZOv7s)
The IDF today claimed they had eliminated Saeed Izadi, one of the alleged masterminds behind the October 7 attacks in Israel by Hamas.
The head of the Palestinian Division in the IRGC Quds Force was reportedly killed in an airstrike in the Iranian city of Qom - although this has not yet been confirmed by Iran.
'Izadi was eliminated in a safe house in the heart of Iran, following a prolonged intelligence effort,' the IDF said.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 08:31 AM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Use those little pestle horns to grind the beans, but the cat that shats the beans would need to hold the mortar bowl for him up high in the tree.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 21, 2025 08:34 AM (MsrgL)
All following appointments: The spirit of Torquemada looking at what they are doing and saying "Dude! Ease back a bit."
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 08:18 AM (7xrfc)
What did I see here once? "If you don't hate your physical therapist, they're not doing their job."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 08:35 AM (QnmlO)
With cute, friendly dogs. I am thankful to God that I can see and hear and walk and talk.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 08:35 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 21, 2025 08:36 AM (x2CMu)
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 08:31 AM
"Safe house". I do not think that means what they think that means.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 08:36 AM (sp5rp)
Thanks. I will read it a little later. I am generally in favor of ordained clergy 😉 and like having holy communion every week and no, I don't want to debate it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 08:38 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
The last time I was under their care, they tried dry needling on me. At one point, the needle hit the muscle right as it spasmed.
As a former Marine, I have a wide and extensive vocabulary at my disposal for moments like this but I figured it was smarter to stay composed to the nice man.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 08:39 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 08:36 AM (sp5rp)
Right, just as that high mucky-muck of Hamas was eliminated in a "safe house" a year or so ago.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 08:39 AM (Y1sOo)
We have the T&O Canal in our general area. My wife and I met up with a group of fellow Greyhound owners and walked it for a while.
The funniest part was one of the dogs who got exasperated when we turned around because she wanted to know what was around the next corner and the ones after that.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 08:40 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: Just Wondering at June 21, 2025 08:41 AM (lIgBp)
https://tinyurl.com/y6hm95ra
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 08:30 AM (2GCMq
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Thanks, Fen. That was simultaneously easy and hard on the eyes.... I can't hear that song without it taking me back to the funerals of loved ones. What a beautiful rendition.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2025 08:41 AM (kOluj)
But I dreamed of this all January and February, so I am just going to wallow in sweat and enjoy it.
Out for an early (sorta) woods walk now. Prayers up for all.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2025 08:41 AM (n4GiU)
In fact, Salvadoran Mario Guevara was detained by ICE after his arrest by local police following the "No Kings" protest just outside Atlanta, Georgia, for a different reason. He is an illegal alien who unlawfully entered the U.S. in 2004.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 08:42 AM (Y1sOo)
Yes, it is a very lovely hymn and a favorite for memorial services.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 08:44 AM (v/2su)
Posted by: NR Pax
There's some good research indicating it's effective, but I don't want a therapist sticking needles in me, especially anywhere close to the spine.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 08:45 AM (ITkJX)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 21, 2025 08:45 AM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 21, 2025 08:36 AM (x2CMu)
We de-bunked it.
Posted by: MSNBC Pederasts and Pizza Lovers at June 21, 2025 08:48 AM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 08:31 AM (ZOv7s)
___________
I'm unfit to start or engage in any theological discussion. But 30 years in showing dogs has convinced me that the capacity people have for self-deception is well nigh infinite.
The danger, regardless of the denomination, is not seeking out what you ought to do but finding justifications for doing what you want to do. Stern gods are obeyed, nice gods get melted down.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 08:50 AM (QnmlO)
Lord, please put your healing touch on all of these people on the list, as well as those that have not put their name here and may be suffering in relative silence. Amen.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2025 08:50 AM (LdKHn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:50 AM (tuLbh)
Going back several decades, reporting along these lines, people seem to end up really dead. There was some traction with a story years ago, about Boystown, in Nebraska.
It’s difficult to determine what’s what, because the stories always morph into George H Bush being a vampire with a dungeon and the rest of it.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 08:51 AM (74/ii)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:51 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 08:53 AM (cYBz/)
"How are things going, Kenny?"
"Oh, pretty good. Just on my way back from seeing the physical terrorist"
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2025 08:53 AM (kOluj)
Posted by: Common Tater
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I'd watch that movie.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 08:53 AM (ITkJX)
"Our presence made them scamper away. When ICE agents saw us come into the courtroom, they submitted the names and photos of the persons they were seeking to the court, but then they didn't stay to try and apprehend them."
'Everyone knows that the optics would have not been good if all of sudden in the presence of clergy, these arrests and deportations were happening,' he added about the idea of migrants being shackled in front of them."
-- Father Scott Santarosa of Our Lady of Guadalupe Parish
Nice pick for bishop by Bobby White Sox.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 08:55 AM (Y1sOo)
To quote the #3 up there...
Nope. No. Not a chance.
Today we have to drive for three hours, one way, to attend a wedding. If it wasn't my nephew, I wouldn't go. I hate weddings generally and the words "semi formal" make my eye twitch. Not a formal person here and when the invitation comes with a dress code (there is literally a dress code guidelines on the invitation) I just want to nope outta this event.
My dad's cousin passed away last week and the memorial service is Saturday. Next Saturday. Dammit. I can't back away from the wedding circus to attend the funeral. My girl spawn said "MOM! You would really prefer to attend a FUNERAL instead of this wedding?!?!"
I looked my beloved child directly in the eye and said a very firm "yes. Yes I would".
I really hate weddings.
If the girl ever gets married, I hope they elope.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 21, 2025 08:55 AM (2J/Lj)
Speaking of hot dogs....
A lot of folk on the internet claim this is the best hot dog of all time:
The Kogi Dog
https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/kogi-dogs
I haven't tried it myself, though I will at some point.
Sounds good though.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 08:55 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2025 08:56 AM (kOluj)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 08:50 AM (QnmlO)
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It was not my intent to start a debate, I merely recalled an article that seemed germane to the topic.
Speaking of which, the Diocese of Lansing ordained 7 priests last weekend, the largest class since 1978.
Four more will be ordained (God willing!) a year from now, and one will go to our parish, which would leave us with four priests in residence, the most since I have been here.
I think Pope Leo is already having a positive influence with this respect for tradition, humility and creating joy all around him. He recently ordained an "underground" bishop in China, and the CCP surprisingly accepted it. This was just weeks after the CCP ordained a bishop while the Churche was sede vacante - a blatant violation of Cardinal Parolin's shameful concordat.
The spiritual winds have definitely shifted since a year ago.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 08:57 AM (ZOv7s)
Her Majesty has decided to try to get home today instead of tomorrow. So I have to make the house look decent before she arrives.
She will be bringing a guest, Mr. Varus (GCH Envious As We Fall), who will be staying with us for the next year to be shown. He's a grandson of our Titan (the Love Dog).
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 08:58 AM (QnmlO)
My little buddy is the child R. and I took care of for 3 years. He is excited to have brothers and a sister but is struggling with no longer being the only child - he's four.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 08:58 AM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Caffiend at June 21, 2025 08:59 AM (G5+As)
https://tinyurl.com/yhc54phx
Basically, she makes a lot of observations and avoids asking the tough question about why men are choosing to stay away.
All she has to do is talk to a man for longer than 30 seconds without interrupting and she'd figure it out.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 08:59 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 08:55 AM (Y1sOo)
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Just go away.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 08:59 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2025 09:00 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:00 AM (tuLbh)
I gotta admit some of them are very creative. And apparently some folks and their web sites, obviously have WAY too much time on their hands. Heart is in the right place. I think.
A “favorite” CT of mine, Barbara Bush, George senior’s main squeeze, is the illegitimate bastard offspring of Aleister Crowley, the infamous Satanist.
It is true there are some way wacked out nutbars in government and “entertainment”.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:01 AM (74/ii)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
The lovely Mrs. gets dry needled every two weeks for her migraines. It has done wonders for her.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:01 AM (cYBz/)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:01 AM (Splbu)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:01 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 08:59 AM (7xrfc)
Come on, let’s not set impossible conditions here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 09:01 AM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:02 AM (Splbu)
Posted by: Vivi at June 21, 2025 09:02 AM (cpunl)
Without men and children, the church dies.
Women give life and men sacrifice theirs, ontologically speaking.
Without honoring the Lord's command of going forth and multiplying, no endeavor will survive. No matter what area you apply it too (business, nationality, cultural, religious), the level of reproduction is the predictor of long term health.
The mainline Reformation churches, in many instances, have embraced reproductive dead ends, be it LGBTQ, contraception, or other feminist latitudes.
This is likely in response to already dwindling and splintering congregations, who sought to fill their coffers and pews with non-traditional Christians. But in their desperation they often drove off their remnant of orthodox believers.
If you belong to such a church, you should take heart. The Lord is in control, He raised up these churches for a purpose and if He tears them down, it will be for a purpose
Posted by: Eyes Rolling at June 21, 2025 09:03 AM (H+njS)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:03 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2025 09:00 AM (lIgBp)
Winter is coming!
Today is a shorter day than yesterday!!!
Stupid global warming!!!!
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:03 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:03 AM (74/ii)
Posted by: Don Black. Message: take me to Funkytown at June 21, 2025 09:03 AM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:04 AM (hY4dx)
Always feels like the high point of the year, seasonally at least.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 09:04 AM (EVFZ5)
It is true there are some way wacked out nutbars in government and “entertainment”.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:01 AM (74/ii)
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The problem is that so much was hidden and so many lies were spread about that one cannot simply dismiss this stuff.
(Okay, the moon landing being fake is stupid. You can see the lander through a telescope. Astronomers watched the stages separate, including Pope Paul VI. I digress.)
But George H.W. was a total bastard, carried on a brazen affair that almost drove his wife to suicide and all while hammering Clinton for doing the same. Somebody was ensuring those secrets were kept.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:04 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:15 AM
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Ahem.
Posted by: Sanka at June 21, 2025 09:07 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Vivi at June 21, 2025 09:02 AM (cpunl)
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The double standard among bishops is annoying. Almost dead silence on right to life, but working themselves in a lather to *break the law.* The USCCB just came out with yet another statement that our immigration system is "broken" without saying what it should be.
Hello? Maybe your Excellencies might explain what positive steps you want taken other than rampant crime and lawlessness in the name of false compassion.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:07 AM (ZOv7s)
Father Scott Santarosa of Our Lady of Guadalupe Parish
I would pay good money to see the profiteers of the modern slave trade being beaten and tased and frog marched away into the waiting ICE vans, whether wearing a clerical collar or not, along with their victims.
Posted by: Deport Them All at June 21, 2025 09:08 AM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Tonypete
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I did botox for 15 years for migraines, but I think there's very little risk of hitting a crucial nerve with that. But I would still never do anything close to the spine, even by a neurologist or pain management doc, which are usually anesthesiologists.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 09:08 AM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 09:08 AM (ITkJX)
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My wife was locked in a migraine cycle for 90+ days and botox was what broke it and controlled it. She now has a piercing in a part of her ear that seems to keep them at bay.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:10 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Eyes Rolling at June 21, 2025 09:03 AM (H+njS)
We are (as a society) at an interesting inflection point. I personally know a great number of Protestants who are totally disgusted with the mainstream churches and have left, but who also will never join up with the Roman Catholics because, popes. But that doesn’t they’ve fallen away, either. All of them are waiting for something new to emerge, even though no one knows what that will be.
The stage has been set for either something very good or something very bad to happen next.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 09:10 AM (EVFZ5)
Go grab your tiny violin:
"Newly-appointed Bishop of the Catholic Diocese of San Diego, Michael Pham made an appeal on June 11, asking fellow men of the cloth to join migrants at hearings at the federal courthouse on June 20, International Refugee Day.
Friday, he was among 16 who went to the Southern California federal courthouse to support the migrants in the US legally who were pleading their cases.
In his appeal, Pham said the migrants were in a 'difficult predicament' of being hauled before judges.
We know that migrants and refugees find themselves in the difficult predicament of being called to appear, which is what the government asks of them, and then being given orders for expedited removal from our country."
Boo
Hoo
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 09:12 AM (Y1sOo)
Prayers up for all of God's children. Whether we like them or not.
May God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 21, 2025 09:13 AM (GprP7)
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - the US is a matriarchy, women hold veto with no duty at June 21, 2025 09:13 AM (EGr8c)
So very sorry.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 09:13 AM (CQE5S)
George H.W. was one of those guys who for years made you come into the country club through the delivery entrance before one day pretending you were his best friend.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 09:13 AM (QnmlO)
I'm going to call bullshit on that statement. The nature of light waves would require a terrestrial mirror several hundred meters wide to even recognize the 4 meter wide spec on the moon's surface.
Not even Hubble could see it.
NASA's LRO which orbits the moon itself as captured pictures, but that won't convince a hard core Moon Landing Denier.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 21, 2025 09:14 AM (a4flb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:14 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 21, 2025 09:14 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:15 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 09:10 AM (EVFZ5)
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There is an interesting dynamic in how Protestants seem much more interested in the pope than Catholics are. Francis really was a key part of this, because he was so erratic and messy.
Pope Leo seems a reversion to a more disciplined, quiet and traditional pope and less of an autocrat. People may be reading too much into some of his appointments because he's honoring those of Francis' nominees that are not outright nuts.
Carl Trueman penned a column a few months ago basically stating that he could be Catholic but for Francis, which seems a really poor reason to turn away from a faith you otherwise consider valid.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)
Nah bro.
In fact, keep the dog, the bun, and toss everything else in the garbage.
See you all at Oki Dogs!
Posted by: Oki Dogs at June 21, 2025 09:15 AM (+zN+q)
I had to look it up.
"Combination of evaporation from free water surfaces and transpiration of water from plant surfaces to the atmosphere."
Translation: the ground and vegetation are wet and that water will evaporate making it humid. I think I'll mow the yard Monday.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:16 AM (Q4IgG)
I understand completely. Thankfully, they were not going anywhere my back or chest for this. And it wasn't being done with every session.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 09:16 AM (7xrfc)
Blessings on the parents for this huge act of loving compassion.
I hope they have a trusted counselor they can all speak to individually as a sudden change like this can be very rocky. Specially little R - he will need someone he can talk to freely to express his feelings without worrying about hurting anyone's feelings.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:17 AM (Splbu)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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What do the flat earthers say is on the bottom side?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 09:18 AM (ITkJX)
NASA's LRO which orbits the moon itself as captured pictures, but that won't convince a hard core Moon Landing Denier.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 21, 2025 09:14 AM (a4flb)
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I don't think Hubble was designed for that.
Anyhow, India and China are working on space programs, which makes no sense if the earth is flat, or hollow or whatnot.
The coverups over Covid, the Diddy stuff, Russiagate etc. are creating space for every lunatic to run clickbait and stupid kids who passed classes by writing papers on Chatbots totally believe them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:19 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:19 AM (lUMEG)
It's a shame you weren't sympathetic to the difficult plight of people like Laken Riley.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 09:19 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 09:19 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:20 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:20 AM (Splbu)
The church I attended for several years and am still a member of was United Methodist. A year or so ago the membership voted to leave the UM conference due to all the woke horse shit they were demanding to be installed in every parish. Itty bitty small village church in a conservative rural community got sick of it and left the conference. It's now a non denomination church that seems to be attracting new people.
Well whattaya know? People are looking for God and Jesus in Scripture, not DEI, woke, LGBT garbage? IN A CHURCH?!?!
Who knew?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 21, 2025 09:20 AM (2J/Lj)
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Newly-appointed Bishop of the Catholic Diocese of San Diego, Michael Pham made an appeal on June 11, asking fellow men of the cloth to join migrants at hearings at the federal courthouse on June 20, International Refugee Day.
Friday, he was among 16 who went to the Southern California federal courthouse to support the migrants in the US legally who were pleading their cases.
In his appeal, Pham said the migrants were in a 'difficult predicament' of being hauled before judges.
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This makes sense. The deportations are shutting off a lot of revenue for Church NGOs.
Posted by: Magic AI Ball at June 21, 2025 09:21 AM (ienUH)
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 09:12 AM (Y1sOo)
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Nice rhetorical slight of hand implying "refugees" are being deported.
Father, there's a log in your eye. May want to check that before the next vigil.
ICE should hand the clergy the rap sheets as well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:21 AM (ZOv7s)
So at worst, the temperature of coffee going down a giraffe's throat would have equilibrated to the giraffe's body temp, and would not be "cold"
Some of us do think about such things.
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 09:21 AM (poXs5)
Posted by: Tom Servo
The article was full of terrible stories about how men are avoiding women and isolating themselves. This is one of those rare moments I want to email them and point out the obvious. Or mock the hell out of them. I'm kind of on the fence about my approach.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 09:22 AM (7xrfc)
A “favorite” CT of mine, Barbara Bush, George senior’s main squeeze, is the illegitimate bastard offspring of Aleister Crowley, the infamous Satanist.
It is true there are some way wacked out nutbars in government and “entertainment”.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:01 AM (74/ii)
I don't know about this one, either way, but there are similar theories that hold water, as far as I'm concerned.
Justin Trudeau undoubtedly IS Fidel Castro's son. His parents were huge fans of Castro and visited him about 9 months before Justin was born. That only proves opportunity. For the rest, just look at a picture of Justin's supposed father, and then look at a picture of Castro when he was Justin's age. He looks nothing like the former, and very much like the later.
Barack Obama is undoubtedly NOT the son of BO Sr. He doesn't look a thing like him. I'm not sure who the biological father really is, but Frank Marshall Davis is a leading suspect, as well as a guy who later became Pres of Indonesia (who looks a LOT like BO).
Of course, the Obama daughters don't look like either of their parents, because MOHAP.
Some pretty f-ed up stuff going on in the halls of power.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 09:22 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Magic AI Ball at June 21, 2025 09:21 AM (ienUH)
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When the federal money was yanked, they tried mightily to get the laity to contribute, but it didn't happen.
You can't put out urgent calls to support our food bank and lament the lack of low-income housing and then turn the page of the church bulletin and say we're sponsoring 50 more migrants, please help. People see the connection.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:22 AM (ZOv7s)
As anti-Bush as I am I maintain a level of respect for HW's war service
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:19 AM (lUMEG)
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Which isn't some get-out-of-jail-free card that absolve you of a career of general incompetence.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 09:23 AM (QnmlO)
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 09:23 AM (Y1sOo)
I'm refusing until I hit 60. Doc claims it lasts forever but my research says 7 years. so I'd rather wait a bit, plus it's a newer vax so Id like to see to make sure, after the problems I had with Moderna
I do think it's a good idea to avoid shingles outbreaks tho, looking into other options. I already take lysine and a TON of C every day
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:23 AM (Pv3Rg)
I'm back from washing the car, then staggering indoors and detailing me. So George HW was a dawg, huh? Who knew? (Probably everybody in Washington, I suppose)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:24 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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I dont get that, since even they, I assume, acknowledge that there is no up and down in space. Do they think the northern hemisphere is on top and southern on the bottom, or something like that?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 09:24 AM (ITkJX)
Comment #38: Dear NR Pax, you are a Marine Veteran, not a “ former Marine “.
( Is there an exception for Marines getting a less than honorable discharge? )
Posted by: Fenderbender at June 21, 2025 09:25 AM (1FEc1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:25 AM (tuLbh)
well I (and a lot of others by my eye) already don't donate at mass anymore, so that should surely help get even fewer people to donate.
ugh my Church I swear
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:26 AM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025
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To prevent "coffee-bagging" jokes
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:26 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:26 AM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:26 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:26 AM (Splbu)
Amen
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 09:27 AM (LHPAg)
The theory is that the identity of the real father was a problem, so they got a foreign student to agree to marry Stanley Dunham. Seems to explain why he completely abandoned both of them before long, and possibly why lil Barry was so close with Frank Marshall Davis.
But I don't see any way around his being born in Hawaii. The mom lived there, so why would she go somewhere else to give birth?
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 09:27 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:19 AM (lUMEG)
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This is going to shock some folks, but I think we place too much emphasis on military service. I get why, because we need people to volunteer, but over many many years I have seen zero correlation between physical bravery and moral behavior.
In fact, people we raise up often turn into total heels, and use their medals or service as a shield.
If you go back 60 years, it was pretty much assumed that one had served and it was no big deal. Now we get fuckups like Walz or Mayor Pete who check the box and want the prestige.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:27 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:27 AM (tuLbh)
anyway hi guys
busy weekend ahead lovely weather finally and I GOT A NEW CAR! I'm so excited! not so much about the payment part lol
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:27 AM (Pv3Rg)
Are they still reformed though? The problems Luther had with Rome, many still exist because they are fundamentally opposed to Scripture but remain because of Holy Tradition. (fallen man's "contribution" to godliness)
The Big Box is apostate. Many of those mainline "reformed" denominations are apostate - Luther would reject them too in their current incarnation.
Looking around and seeing the State of The Church would lead one to a Full Preterist position, but then read 1 Corinthians and see what kind of low-lifes made up the Church back then and get rebased that human being have always sucked at Godliness.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 21, 2025 09:28 AM (a4flb)
Federal authorities are trying to determine who has been anonymously ordering pizzas that are sent to the homes of U.S. lawmakers across the country and to the homes of those who help protect those lawmakers.
The mysterious deliveries have authorities worried that they could be intended to send a menacing message, according to congressional sources and others familiar with the matter.
https://tinyurl.com/5n8x98sc
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:28 AM (D7oie)
well I (and a lot of others by my eye) already don't donate at mass anymore, so that should surely help get even fewer people to donate.
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Some time ago I resolved not to let a collection basket pass without putting something in it. I always pray it will be used according to His will.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 09:29 AM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:26 AM (omVj
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I appreciate the brevity!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:29 AM (hTeRG)
Posted by: Don, the Rebel without a Blog at June 21, 2025 09:29 AM (VYzUf)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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So what's on the bottom of the pizza?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 09:29 AM (ITkJX)
"Do not remove this tag under penalty of law."
Posted by: Flat Earth Society Legal Department at June 21, 2025 09:30 AM (lIgBp)
Wanted to swim yesterday because leg has been bothering me but the Y was closed because they had no power. At a loss, I ended up reading sitting outside. First, I could actually read a hardcover book which was good news. Second, just sitting outside made me feel better. Kept thinking about how people keep talking about the importance of "touching grass". It works.
❤️😎💃
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2025 09:30 AM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:30 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:31 AM (r8KQ7)
Posted by: Boss
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Folgers used to sell those- coffee in little tea bags.
Better taste than instant.
Dunno why they didn't catch on.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:31 AM (Splbu)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:20 AM (Splbu)
I say do it. I'm not one for shots but as a nurse I have had pt's who lived with horrible pain years after getting the shingles. It's ugly. I got the shot a few years ago.
Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 09:31 AM (j/yko)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025
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Details on the wheels, please!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:32 AM (omVj0)
that used to be me but nowadays?
they track the donations YOY in the newsletter and it's obvious people are not giving. hoping they get a damn clue!
we have a LOT of new immigrants here and we welcome them. I'd rather the Church stop treating them as dependent children, and just treat them like the rest of us. as it is, it feels like the local parishes prefer the newcomers and consider us troublesome (unless we're opening our wallets)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:32 AM (Pv3Rg)
One of my favorite Spurgeon devos.
Posted by: H at June 21, 2025 08:26 AM (2gjbv)
Amen!
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 09:32 AM (LHPAg)
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Some time ago I resolved not to let a collection basket pass without putting something in it. I always pray it will be used according to His will.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
It's interesting at our Parish - weekly collections are trending downward but the building fund has lately been receiving massive gifts. And we don't even currently have a new facility funding effort going on.
I'm guessing the parishioners want to have some control over where their donation $$$s go.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:33 AM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Mick at June 21, 2025 09:33 AM (HFx9z)
Prayers for all those who are ill or in difficulties.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2025 09:33 AM (DnMuk)
Posted by: Flat Moon Society at June 21, 2025 09:33 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 09:33 AM (zTKlt)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 21, 2025 09:28 AM (a4flb)
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A good question is how many churches are still following one of the creeds (Apostles or Nicea)?
Is that even part of the church experience?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:34 AM (ZOv7s)
https://is.gd/7zwTrb
When capturing giraffes for study, leaf blowers are used to cool the animal and ear plugs are inserted so the noise doesn't agitate the animal.
"In hot humid conditions, the use of a battery-operated leaf blower is highly advantageous to cool a hyperthermic animal down. The placement of the earplugs should prevent the animal from being startled by these external sounds.
Every few minutes, the normal body temperature was measured by placing a digital thermometer deep within the rectum. For an adult giraffe, the normal body temperature should be between 37 to 38.6 °C, not exceeding 39 °C ."
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 09:34 AM (poXs5)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:34 AM (r8KQ7)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:34 AM (omVj0)
Some pretty f-ed up stuff going on in the halls of power.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 09:22 AM (hOOi9)
The older, taller one looks like Barky. The younger one shaped like a fire hydrant looks like big Mike. I think they probably used the same surrogate mother who donated eggs, fertilized in a test tube and implanted. Barky fathered the older kid. Big Mike is the father of the younger kid.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 21, 2025 09:34 AM (2J/Lj)
The parishioners who attend Mass really do love the Parish and really like the young new priest. He's basically a reverent cheerful puppy.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:34 AM (Splbu)
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 09:35 AM (poXs5)
well this is my first ever new car! I keep looking at the odometer in shock. the one I traded in (wept to get $4k for it) was almost 200k.
I was already planning to get a new VW (the new Tiguan) so had all that set up, payment, loan etc.
test drove one and just ... no. that's a long post. but the controls were just a huge NO. it was all digital, literally everything, using a big iPad on the dash. no knobs no buttons. just that screen. crazy! like three clicks in to do some things!
my first car was a jeep from a police auction in philly - I scraped together $4k for that baby - loved it. yellow. since then no jeeps, more practical. well now I'm back baby! nice non-digital new wrangler lol
so fun! my midlife crisis I guess! I don't have to drive kids around anymore!!! so why not?
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:36 AM (Pv3Rg)
"Our presence made them scamper away. When ICE agents saw us come into the courtroom, they submitted the names and photos of the persons they were seeking to the court, but then they didn't stay to try and apprehend them."
'Everyone knows that the optics would have not been good if all of sudden in the presence of clergy, these arrests and deportations were happening,' he added about the idea of migrants being shackled in front of them."
-- Father Scott Santarosa of Our Lady of Guadalupe Parish
Nice pick for bishop by Bobby White Sox.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 08:55 AM (Y1sOo)
Many leaders of different faiths are deeply upset at the U it’s States having any immigration laws.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 09:36 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)
Not really, if I am going to leave my church for being a bunch of psychotic DEI obsessed jackwagons who have little power over anyone but their congregation, why should I join a powerful world-wide church that is controlled by a psychotic DEI obsessed jackwagon with an army of psychotic DEI obsessed jackwagons at his beck and call?
It can be said that the pope is just the vicar of Christ, but the last one wasn't any good at it.
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed,
But, swoll'n with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread;
Besides what the grim wolf with privy paw
Daily devours apace, and nothing said,
But that two-handed engine at the door
Stands ready to smite once, and smite no more
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:37 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 09:10 AM (EVFZ5)
I was raised Catholic, and it wasn't until I was well into adulthood that I began to realize that (1) most of the country was NOT Catholic (2) most of the country was at least somewhat hostile to Catholics and (3) that the Pope was somewhat hostile to American Catholics.
The basic truth is that Catholicism is contrary to Americanism (which is especially interesting to point out, since it is the original Christian church, and conservatives love to claim that the US is based on Christianity). My argument is that America is about DE-CENTRALIZATION of power, because centralization puts too much power in the hands of a very few people, and that's a recipe for tyranny.
Popes have understood that America - with it's freedom of religion - was a breeding ground for NEW protestant faiths. That complete worked against it's goal of recapturing all Christians under their umbrella.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 09:37 AM (hOOi9)
Sorry that you couldn't swim but glad to hear your good news! Praise the Lord!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 09:37 AM (ra16W)
I'm guessing the parishioners want to have some control over where their donation $$$s go.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:33 AM (cYBz/)
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We hardly even use the baskets any more - it's all electronic.
Our parish saw a big dip when the Boomers left (which accelerated due to Covid), but it is recovering as the Gen Xers hit peak earning years. Lots of young families and student Mass attendance is up 15% from last year, and 10% the year before that. So the Word is being spread.
But I'm reluctant to make blanket donations outside of the parish. I want to target it to seminarians, not just give the bishop a slush fund.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:20 AM (Splbu)
I say do it. I'm not one for shots but as a nurse I have had pt's who lived with horrible pain years after getting the shingles. It's ugly. I got the shot a few years ago.
Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 09:31 AM (j/yko)
Yeah, I've never heard anyone say "Thank God, I finally got shingles."
IMO, you should get it if you're in "that age group".
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:39 AM (iJfKG)
exactly we do targeted donations. but I know the basket weekly goes to the "women and children" which is just illegal immigrant financial support now (it used to not be).
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:39 AM (Pv3Rg)
You'd know they worked carefully.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 09:40 AM (3wi/L)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 09:40 AM (RIvkX)
That is a bit of interesting revisionist history.
The early colonists of North America were Protestants fleeing the persecution, robbing, torture and murder by the hands of European Roman Catholics.
My Bohemian great grand parents left their textile mills behind because of persecution and robbery of the Roman Catholic Church.
Evil bastards made my grandfather hate Christians because of the blood thirsty Roman Catholics there at the time.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 21, 2025 09:41 AM (a4flb)
so fun! my midlife crisis I guess! I don't have to drive kids around anymore!!! so why not?
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025
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What color is it, how much horsepower does it have, and does it ride comfortably or more firmly?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:42 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:27 AM (Pv3Rg
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Congratulations! I was planning to make a couple hour drive this morning to possibly do the same but, alas, the dealership called me back and said someone had already put down a deposit. So now I get to go prune a tree instead... pray that my ladder holds steady and my chainsaw only removes the wooden limbs.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2025 09:42 AM (kOluj)
A woman of valor, she loved hashem, her family and her country. She attended the house of prayer regularly, observed the sabbath, and studied the Law. She conducted my interrogation when Mrs. F. and I first started dating 35 years ago and was most gentle. Please join me in prayer for her repose awaiting the resurrection.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 09:42 AM (RIvkX)
No chance
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:42 AM (0pOPf)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:37 AM (D7oie)
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Are you talking about the Anglicans?
Francis was not the pope we wanted, but he was the pope we needed. He illustrated the fact that the pope is not a dictator, and that the Church is bigger than any man.
He pushed against boundaries and they pushed back, and his persecution of tradition had the effect of drawing more people into it than ever before.
We are seeing huge numbers of seminarians who are very orthodox. Francis was the last hope of Liberal Catholicism and he failed. That window is now closed. There are no young liberal priests to rise up and replace his generation, and that was a big part of his anger, especially at the US.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s)
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Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 09:37 AM (hOOi9)
My explanation of American Protestantism to a European friend: "screw talking to the manager, I want to talk to the OWNER"
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:43 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2025 09:43 AM (DnMuk)
Trying to stay positive but still have two months to go. It weighs on me at times.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2025 09:44 AM (t/2Uw)
It will be interesting to see what role, if any, the Eastern Orthodox Church will play in the emerging Christian era in the United States.
It is a very masculine church, promotes large families and while liturgical, is decentralized (pope-less).
I've recently begun attending one myself after serving for ten years in an evangelical church and one thing I find extremely refreshing there is that they are not at all interested in what I think about things.
For person that likes to opine a lot, it's nice to be told "thanks, but we don't need your input".
Posted by: Eyes Rolling at June 21, 2025 09:44 AM (H+njS)
But I'm reluctant to make blanket donations outside of the parish. I want to target it to seminarians, not just give the bishop a slush fund.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)
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I get envelopes from my parish for the Sunday collection. There are usually a couple of second collections a month, as well as a monthly one for the parish's capital fund.
I haven't got the heart not to contribute to the second collections - some of which are for the FSSP - and just hope the archdiocesan ones are being used sensibly.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 09:44 AM (QnmlO)
This is going to shock some folks, but I think we place too much emphasis on military service. I get why, because we need people to volunteer, but over many many years I have seen zero correlation between physical bravery and moral behavior.
In fact, people we raise up often turn into total heels, and use their medals or service as a shield.
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Word.
Posted by: Randall "Duke" Cunningham, Fighter Ace at June 21, 2025 09:45 AM (ienUH)
Saying "Oof" does not constitute a "Get Out of the Barrel Free" card.
Maybe MisHum can grant you a special dispensation.
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 09:45 AM (poXs5)
Because their true faith is Communism, not Christianity.
The Bible is rich in language supporting the idea of borders and God ordained governments.
The Clergy want to usurp the role of God and claim it for themselves. Today's clergy hate their neighbor and worship a fantasy image of the Noble Savage in the form of a lawless illegal alien.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 21, 2025 09:45 AM (a4flb)
The bombers apparently refueled after launching from Missouri, suggesting they launched without full fuel tanks due to a heavy onboard payload...
-- Fox News
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 09:45 AM (Y1sOo)
Miss you. Glad you're home safe and sound. Sorry I now have to wait til October to give you a hug in person.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2025 09:46 AM (t/2Uw)
My old rabbi was a total numbnuts and dipshit. NP, I got outta that synagogue and go to a better one now. My Catholic dad can't just turn his back on an awful pope like Francis, or after whatever dumb things the new guy does. Catholics are stuck with these guys.
If you're looking at becoming or remaining Catholic, the Pope is a matter of high importance. A centralized church structure ought to keep that in mind when they select leadership.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 21, 2025 09:46 AM (BI5O2)
And there is a vaxx for Chicken Pox. But it isn’t the same as Shingles, naturally.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:47 AM (B4klT)
Ice cream at the neighborhood parlor? Not in my neighborhood, there's nothing around here but Baskin-Robbins. BR is fine, but I hate the tiny shops and the clientele. A couple of weeks ago we picked up on Saturday evening and drove over to Brocato's, the old old business that used to be in the Quarter when I was a kid. A good excursion.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 09:48 AM (omVj0)
The early colonists were outside the reach of the Catholic Church.
The Pilgrims were fleeing the Church of England.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 09:48 AM (3wi/L)
The early colonists of North America were Protestants fleeing the persecution, robbing, torture and murder by the hands of European Roman Catholics.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 21, 2025 09:41 AM (a4flb)
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Speaking of revisionism! Check out the English Reformation and then get back to me. All the people fleeing England were not escaping Catholic persecution, but the ones launched by the Tudors and then the Puritans.
That is why the Constitution bans a state religion AND religious tests for office (go look up the Test Act in England).
Catholics supported the Patriot cause because Washington promised them emancipation in the new government - full political rights and religious freedom.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:48 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 09:48 AM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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I remember seeing these back in the bacon in a can days of camping supplies, early mid sixties.
Not very good if I recall.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2025 09:48 AM (n4GiU)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2025 09:49 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:49 AM (B4klT)
Thanks to the more positive people and those who pray.
See you again....sometime,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 09:50 AM (ra16W)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s)
Yep, but who sees that? There is just the fight between Novo Ordo and Latin mass for people who look deeply, and beyond that the corruption of the Vatican Bank, the continual statement/reverse/back off of the Pope, the Lavender Mafia, the allegation of sexual abuse in the parishes, and the activists priests using the power of the Vatican to try to change cultures based on Marxist principles. (Liberation Theology is just one of those things as well)
This crap has been going on for a very long time and for a church who declares its uninterrupted lineage back to Peter, and who cares that my family has been apostate for 400 years, the statement "but we are changing" is not compelling
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:50 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 09:51 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:43 AM (D7oie)
I'm constantly fascinated by the rather silly idea that Catholics can't pray directly to God.
But, hey whatevs.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:51 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Sharon
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Miss you too. If I were actually 29, I'd have jumped in the Jeep soon as my boss dropped me off yesterday afternoon and pointed it towards NoVa. But I'm just too tired, and too much to keep up with around here. October is all systems go, though, assuming I'm breathing and have a pulse.
Y'all have fun this weekend, and call if anyone needs bailing out!
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2025 09:52 AM (DnMuk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 09:50 AM (ra16W)
but wait, we are about to discuss libertarianism and fiat currency next!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:52 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 09:52 AM (poXs5)
btw there are "coffee bags" like tea bags. I have some in the cupboard now. use them at the cabin or camping.
"anvil" is the color of the new Jeep, and it's gray basically. black interior.
nice firm ride. great road feel!
2.0 liter D1 Turbo - the 8-speed auto basically
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:52 AM (Pv3Rg)
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The early colonists of North America were Protestants fleeing the persecution, robbing, torture and murder by the hands of European Roman Catholics.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 21, 2025 09:41 AM (a4flb)
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The Puritans were driven out by other Protestants.
Posted by: Randall at June 21, 2025 09:52 AM (ienUH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:53 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:51 AM (iJfKG)[.i]
It is as silly as the idea that a prot can't pray to the Virgin Mary. But do they?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:54 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:54 AM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 21, 2025 09:46 AM (BI5O2)
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Right, and as I said, non-Catholics worry a lot more about the pope than actual ones. I think it's a sense that he is seen as a mascot, as the president or something, when he's just the latest in a long line of succession, some better than others.
Somehow, the Church stumbles forward despite Honorius or the Avignon papacy, or now Francis.
The pope is just such a tiny part of the Church.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 09:54 AM (ZOv7s)
Off on a 300 mile drive over the mountains to the eastern side of the state to meet up with AOP, Jordan61 and her hubs.
Prayers for a safe and uneventful drive please!
Whoot!
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2025 09:54 AM (mT+6a)
"When the military is deployed to quell overwhelmingly peaceful protest, when elected officials of the opposing party are arrested or handcuffed, when student activists are jailed and deported, and when a wide range of civic institutions – non-profits, law firms, universities, news outlets, the arts, the civil service, scientists – are targeted and penalized by the federal government, it’s hard to avoid the conclusion that our core freedoms are disappearing before our eyes – and democracy itself is slipping away.
In any country on the cusp of authoritarianism, the role of the press as an engine of scrutiny, truth and accountability becomes increasingly critical. At the Guardian, we see it as our job not only to report on the suppression of dissenting voices, but to make sure those voices are heard."
I can't see leftists wanting to financially support yet another echo chamber or anyone else wanting to suppport a rag that doesn't have a clue what they are editorializing about in their sales pitch.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:55 AM (FBBqz)
They are pretty good, or at least better than any freeze-dried. Sometimes hard to find. When I ordered online the numb nuts would try to sub keurig cups.
They are about $14 for 38 cups, so not too bad. The real question is why nobody else makes them. The hipster freeze-dried taste a lot like C-Rat coffee. Seriously. I’d rather give my money to shady characters out of Brooklyn, too. “Type II, Style VI”
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:55 AM (B4klT)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Yeh, would be like hanging all night and not tipping the bar band.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2025 09:55 AM (n4GiU)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:54 AM (D7oie)
Welp, I've never heard any of that.
Can you explain what you mean?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:56 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:57 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:59 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 10:00 AM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: muldoon
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Muldoon, do you still subscribe to a medical research service, or is this deep dive info available to anyone with google?
Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2025 10:00 AM (n4GiU)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 09:50 AM (D7oie)
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I do, and it encourages me. For a non-Catholic you seem to follow the Church pretty closely. Why?
Obviously, I'm biased. I'm a convert. I was raised to hate all organized religion and the Catholic Church in particular.
And yet, the harder I fought, the more I was draw in. I'm still a work in progress of course, but the Church has brought me (and my family) a level of peace I had never known. It's quite natural for me to want others to share this joy, and when I see the pope is an obstacle, I want to find out why.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 10:00 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: old chick at June 21, 2025 10:01 AM (F3Dlr)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:01 AM (RIvkX)
Yep. That's what we're looking for: to be captured.
Posted by: Protestants everywhere at June 21, 2025 10:01 AM (lIgBp)
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I thought Lutherans were just “Catholics with Money”? I think the important thing is that there is a hunger and need for traditional services and messages.
Militant purple haired whack jobs bitching about your lawn mower destroying the climate ain’t gonna work. I know that historical biblical messaging is at odds with the goibalist agenda but that is rather the point, isn’t it?
I went to a Catholics funeral once, and it was comforting, the latin and incense and all that. I can see the allure of timeless tradition. “Gimmee that Old Time Religion”.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 10:02 AM (F8P8/)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:02 AM (XZ5S6)
Really would like to be a fly on the wall in the next Walz - Klobuchar meeting. Even if the killer is lying that will be an uncomfortable encounter
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:03 AM (IG2sK)
If you were able to remember anything about Mendel's Law. From high school biology you would remember that we are more apt to resemble our grandparents then our parents
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 21, 2025 10:03 AM (EvAWJ)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2025 10:03 AM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Click bait at June 21, 2025 10:04 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2025 10:05 AM (t/2Uw)
I think some form of volunteer service be it military or civilian be a condition for voting. Agreed that a lot of people use their service as a shield or turn out as assholes but I think most folks that serve don't turn out that way.
I'm not in favor of conscription though. Saw too many problem children who kept forgetting that they volunteered to be there.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 10:05 AM (7xrfc)
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I have a box sitting right here. They aren’t past tense or anything.
They are still made. They aren’t great. But - better than ANY freeze-dried, and have a kick to them as well. I wish I would have bought a pallet of them. They have their applications. Convenient.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 10:06 AM (F8P8/)
Parish the thought!
Posted by: muldoon
You should altar your point of view.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 10:07 AM (dR6yv)
Parish the thought!
Posted by: muldoon
You should altar your point of view.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 10:07 AM (dR6yv)
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Aisle be getting out of here...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:07 AM (XZ5S6)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 10:08 AM (EVFZ5)
I'm not in favor of conscription though. Saw too many problem children who kept forgetting that they volunteered to be there.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 10:05 AM (7xrfc)
Robert Heinlein, is that you?
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 10:08 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 09:20 AM (Splbu)
I say do it. I'm not one for shots but as a nurse I have had pt's who lived with horrible pain years after getting the shingles. It's ugly. I got the shot a few years ago.
Posted by: Molly k.
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Ditto
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 21, 2025 10:08 AM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2025 10:08 AM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:09 AM (tuLbh)
For 46 years there have been no direct flights between Israel and Iran.
Now there are 60 to 70 a day.
Posted by: Nature is healing at June 21, 2025 10:09 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:10 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 10:10 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: From about That Time
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Not a subscription service. That article just popped up on a DDG search for "normal body temp of giraffes".
I guess they didn't think an article on tranquilizing giraffes warranted it being behind a paywall. Probably a very select audience.
Truth be told, since retiring in 2019 I spend very little time thinking of myself as a doctor. I don't stay current in my specialty. That was my life then, not so much now. I keep a passing interest in COVID and the gender issues involving children, but otherwise, nah1
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 10:11 AM (poXs5)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 09:54 AM (Pv3Rg)
It is nice to buy a new car, I think my dad bought two his whole life, and one for Mom. I buy used, often from the side of the road.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 10:13 AM (D7oie)
I don't think it lasted longer than the payments.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:15 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Common Tater
Yes, it was in fact a green sermon about ten years ago that was the final straw with the Lutheran church I went to. Haven't been back since.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 10:15 AM (ITkJX)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:15 AM (RIvkX)
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Not surprising, given late 70s - early 80s Fords.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:15 AM (XZ5S6)
Another rainy day here, and another rainy week ahead. Strange weather we're having.
Coffee is Blackbeard's Delight.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 10:17 AM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:17 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: Cow Demon
Hey, the man had a solid idea in that book. Got into a debate once with a guy in Aikido class who called it fascist. My response: "Anyone who says that about the book either never read it or they skimmed it until they found something offensive."
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 10:17 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:17 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 10:18 AM (lCWOD)
My focus for a long time was Spanish language and culture, and it is impossible to be there without following the Church. Protestant America tends to be very siloed to avoid conflict, in a Catholic society the attitude is much more relaxed, since the conflict is one within a family, not between clans or tribes.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 10:19 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:20 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 09:19 AM (7xrfc)
Boom!
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 10:22 AM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:20 AM (tuLbh)
That show started off pretty great.
But, it just got weaker as it went along.
I think I gave up during Season3.
Like Mr Ed, the writers could find only so many ways to hide the talking horse yet have it still be a playa in all the storylines.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 10:26 AM (iJfKG)
Pakistan formally recommends Trump for 2026 Nobel Peace Prize
Trump helped secure Pakistan-India ceasefire last month, preventing a broader conflict between the two nuclear states
https://is.gd/TPfFvw
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:28 AM (Riz8t)
Nissan screwed the pooch when it merged with Renault.
I think the man responsible for that committed seppuku.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 10:30 AM (lCWOD)
Had foreign visitors gawp at the very junior kids doing high tech work because in their military it was usually performed by officers.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 10:30 AM (kpS4V)
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I thought Lutherans were just “Catholics with Money”? I think the important thing is that there is a hunger and need for traditional services and messages.
No, that's Episcopalians. Hence the absence of traditional services and messages.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:31 AM (Riz8t)
Always good to see some new temp jobs opening up.
The brave men and women of the IDF would probably also appreciate a prayer, if you're of a mind. They're out there protecting, not just Israel, but all of us, from a pack of psychotic mullahs craving nuclear martyrdom.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:31 AM (qpyNK)
He's on the Toobz.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2025 10:32 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:28 AM (Riz8t)
I've discovered that you can really wind up a communist by pointing out that Trump's first term made him the first President in 40 years who didn't get us involved in any new foreign wars.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:33 AM (qpyNK)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I rarely comment on religious matters simply because it usually descends into bigotry and name calling. Lot of heat and little light.
Essentially if a version of Christianity 'works' for someone, then don't take a poke at them lest they take a poke at what you hold dear.
What we see today as churches bear scant resemblance to the churches during the Apostolic period where you had converted Jews and Gentiles that often mixed like oil and water over matters such as whether Mosaic law still applied, whether circumcising was necessary, whether the new covenant superseded the old, the different natures of Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Father, and so on. Ad nauseam. These ideas have been argued by far better theologians centuries ago and resolving such in gray boxes is simply lighting matches and throwing them into a powder magazine.
BTW, this is not directed at AH at all but simply the way I have seen AOS theological arguments descend into mudthrowing including claims of who is the greater victim.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2025 10:34 AM (ctrM5)
Parish the thought!
Posted by: muldoon
You should altar your point of view.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 10:07 AM (dR6yv)
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Aisle be getting out of here...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:07 AM (XZ5S6)
Doesn't make cense.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:35 AM (qpyNK)
This is the ‘beginning of the end’ for Iran’s supreme leader. But what comes next?
https://is.gd/azaaGn
NYT Wonders: What Message Would a Fordow Strike Send to China?
https://is.gd/ALRpU5
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:35 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2025 10:36 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 09:18 AM (ITkJX)
Turtles, obviously. Mitch McConnell was sent to the surface to prevent research on this.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 21, 2025 10:36 AM (ExV1e)
I don't fully understand the issues involved, but I want a reconciliation of the Latin Church and Eastern Orthodox Church. I don't think they'll cotton to papal supremacy but I don't think being under the thumb of the secular power and cringing up to it (e.g. Russian Orthodox) does them any favors either.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:37 AM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2025 10:36 AM (lIgBp)
Hey, AoSHQ is the font of wisdom.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:37 AM (qpyNK)
California Penal Code § 27535(a) states that individuals may not apply “to purchase more than one firearm within any 30-day period,” and § 27540(f) prohibits a firearms dealer from delivering any firearm if the dealer is notified that “the purchaser has made another application to purchase a handgun, semiautomatic centerfire rifle, completed frame or receiver, or firearm precursor part” within the preceding 30-day period.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 10:37 AM (Y1sOo)
Essentially if a version of Christianity 'works' for someone, then don't take a poke at them lest they take a poke at what you hold dear.
You are wise.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:37 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: The person who always thinks the middle is beginning at June 21, 2025 10:37 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:38 AM (tuLbh)
I rarely comment on religious matters simply because it usually descends into bigotry and name calling.
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Only a rat-bastard anathemized hell-bound schismatic would say that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:38 AM (QnmlO)
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 10:37 AM (Y1sOo)
What the fuck is a "firearm precursor part"? Does iron ore count?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:39 AM (qpyNK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:39 AM (tuLbh)
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 10:39 AM (poXs5)
Posted by: Clueless media at June 21, 2025 10:40 AM (lIgBp)
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I've always wondered... on the first delivery do the targets of this form of harassment eat the pizzas? Because, I figure they don't realize what's going on until the 2nd or 3rd time a pizza shows up, unannounced.
And... what type of pizzas are these people ordering? Like, the cheap-o cheese only or something nice.
Lastly, it would seem to me with our intelligence community's vast trove of surveillance tools they would be able to find these people PDQ. But can't seem to do so. Unless the targets are of a certain demographic and/or political persuasion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:41 AM (Q4IgG)
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"
He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"
Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:41 AM (qpyNK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:41 AM (tuLbh)
Whig, great to see your comments in a gray box!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 21, 2025 10:41 AM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Kindltot
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Very astute point.
For a lot of the backstory of a variety of denominations, I found the Will and Ariel Durant histories excellent as far as seriously examining the historical roots of pre 19th century Christianity. Doesn't do as well on Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Confucianism simply because those systems are more alien to the Western tradition that the Durants were chronicling.
The explosion of new denominations in the 19th century requires substantial effort to even get answers to relatively simple questions of differences in theology to existing ones.
Had to do that once for a project using ordination of women and abortion and it was like hacking through a thorny thicket to get at anything solid as to church law for that denomination.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2025 10:42 AM (ctrM5)
I could be wrong, but I think that is referring to the 80-percent completed firearm that can be purchased for completion by the buyer.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 10:42 AM (Y1sOo)
We all thought otters and penguins are evil, they've got nothing on turtles
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:42 AM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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And a very nice day in Christ for you as well. A soft answer turneth away wrath.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2025 10:43 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:44 AM (XZ5S6)
Whoot!
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2025 09:54 AM (mT+6a)
*waves from the North*
Safe travels.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 10:44 AM (i24o9)
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 10:42 AM (Y1sOo)
I've been wondering... has anyone started selling 79%-completed uppers yet?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:44 AM (qpyNK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:44 AM (tuLbh)
When the Iranian people are cleared of the tyrants we should leave them alone to their own devices. If they request consul with a specific Russian, American or even a European so be it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 10:45 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2025 10:42 AM (ctrM5)
Sometimes it's more mundane. I had a friend in high school who was a preacher's daughter. According to her, one congregation her father had served split over what color to paint the rec room in the church basement. A matter of grave theological import, to be sure.
(Yes, these were Baptists. What makes you ask?)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:46 AM (qpyNK)
Are we now allowed to own, say, a sawed off shotgun legally?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 10:47 AM (lCWOD)
I rarely comment on religious matters simply because it usually descends into bigotry and name calling.
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Only a rat-bastard anathemized hell-bound schismatic would say that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:38 AM (QnmlO)
Can’t stop laughing. Thanks for that!!!
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Jeff at June 21, 2025 10:47 AM (ZTJjv)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:46 AM (qpyNK)
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The Southern Baptist Convention of Off-White?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:47 AM (XZ5S6)
I'm quite comfortable with our military organization overall, it being entirely voluntary now. What is troublesome is the increasing amount of social engineering, something that has NO place in a military like ours.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 21, 2025 10:47 AM (hKoQL)
Democrat Doom Loop continues...
they're trying to stoke a "no kings 2.0" "protest" looting/riot event
But you'll never guess what date they chose for their next stunt.
Yeah, July 4th.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2025 10:48 AM (4sPkB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2025 10:49 AM (4sPkB)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:47 AM (XZ5S6)
A schismatic splinter from the Southern Baptist Convention of Ecru. We won't even mention those beige devil-worshipers.
Taupe is right out.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:49 AM (qpyNK)
The irony is lost on these shitheads.
A fake "anti king" fake "protest" on literally Independence Day.
These people are fucking morons.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2025 10:50 AM (4sPkB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:38 AM (tuLbh)
Ret Gen Keane made the observation that NONE of Iran's allies have come to its aid. Nobody else has thrown any missile at Israel, and nobody has re-supplied Iran with what Israel has blown up.
Some make a big deal about recent missile strikes, but the number of missiles being launched at Israel has plummeted down to less than a dozen per day. Israel has been effective at taking out missile batteries and stored missiles. Iran is apparently running out. Their Air Force is gone, as are their anti-air batteries.
Other than that, Iran's doing just great. A lot of great career opportunities opening up in the military and nuclear science fields...
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 10:51 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 21, 2025 10:51 AM (AcTAo)
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Years of being complete assholes have come home to roost.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:53 AM (XZ5S6)
Iran has allies?
AFAIK, the Arabs, Turks, Kurds, and Pakis all hate Persian guts, and have for centuries.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:53 AM (qpyNK)
Ret Gen Keane made the observation that NONE of Iran's allies have come to its aid.
After I did, of course.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2025 10:54 AM (4sPkB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:38 AM (tuLbh)
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Great Leap Forward backyard refineries maybe?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:55 AM (hY4dx)
Why? Why are the Democrats doing this?
Answer: Because It's All They Know.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2025 10:49 AM (4sPkB)
I'm soooooo old, that I remember when Dems used to at least go through the motions to try to PRETEND to be patriotic. Eventually it became "show how patriotic you are by being unpatriotic". Now they're so desperate, they're doubling down on unpatriotic. They're so isolated in their bubble that they don't even realize that normal people don't even know WTF they're trying to say, and if they DID know, they wouldn't like it one bit.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 10:56 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: callsign claymore at June 21, 2025 10:57 AM (vdLS7)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 21, 2025 10:51 AM (AcTAo)
I hope you feel better soon. My experience was different.. I never got the vaccine and had shingles almost exactly 3 years ago. My case wasn’t that bad, just annoying and lasted only a few weeks. Because of that I doubt I’ll get the vaccine
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:58 AM (6RwsA)
AFAIK, the Arabs, Turks, Kurds, and Pakis all hate Persian guts, and have for centuries.
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No one has forgotten the Parthians.
Fucking Parthians
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:58 AM (hY4dx)
Roger Williams was kicked out of the Massachusetts Bay Colony for his insistence on religious freedom. So he founded Rhode Island and Providence Plantations and established the first Baptist church in America in Providence.
His beliefs have been widely credited with influencing the 1st Amendment, religious freedom and free speech.
It's not all Cthulhu and lobsters around here.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:59 AM (viF8m)
Ret Gen Keane made the observation that NONE of Iran's allies have come to its aid.
After I did, of course.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2025 10:54 AM (4sPkB)
Probably others on here too, but I happened to catch his summary of the state of things. Seems like I haven't been hearing as much about it - media is totally focused on spinning a potential isolated attack on one facility into WWIII.
The allies mentioned were basically the terror groups they've sponsored over the years (who haven't fired a shot), plus Russia & China (neither of which has sent more weapons).
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:00 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:03 AM (hY4dx)
Our family has had people in service since the Revolutionary War. We span the Branches and the service runs from one and done to a career.
Great-great Grampa's war was the Civil War, Gramps was WW1, Dad was WW2, Brother was Korea, mine was Vietnam and a couple cousins and nephews did Desert Storm and Astan. It was a great honor to have worn that uniform and I'd do it again in a split second.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 21, 2025 11:03 AM (hKoQL)
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2025 11:03 AM (Y1sOo)
'Ret Gen Keane made the observation that NONE of Iran's allies have come to its aid.
After I did, of course.'
That will be true as long as it is only Israel fighting. If the US starts openly intervening you will see Russia and China holler about it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 11:05 AM (3wi/L)
His beliefs have been widely credited with influencing the 1st Amendment, religious freedom and free speech.
It's not all Cthulhu and lobsters around here.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:59 AM (viF8m)
Yep. I think it was around 1650.
But people don't realize that Jefferson was also a huge influence on freedom of religion. He was the one who got that going in VA, which was our most populous state at the time. It's one of the three accomplishments he had put on his headstone, along with founding a university and writing the D of I. Being the 3rd POTUS didn't make the cut, even though he doubled the land area of the country with the Louisiana Purchase.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:06 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:08 AM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 11:05 AM (3wi/L)
Regarding the prospect of retaliation for an isolated US strike or two, Keane said that Iran will know better than to do that (and will be reminded). They know it will go very badly for them if they escalate a fight with the US.
Something similar might be said for Russia and China. Russia in particular is rumored to want to deal with Trump to get them to a normalized trading status in the world. China could be hurt pretty severely just by stopping the shipment of Iranian oil to them. They know not to mess with Trump.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:11 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2025 11:08 AM (lCWOD)
Now that you mention that, he did say that. He's basically throwing the crazy mullahs under the bus. He wants to deal with Trump, not go to war with him. As it is, Trump is letting Putin have his way with Ukraine, because Zelenskyy is a bad actor, and will never allow peace. The Ukraine war will end the hard way too, but it will END.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 11:14 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 01:17 PM (qgNn3)
Pancreatic cancer, which used to seem rare, is more common now or seems to be diagnosed more often.
Please read this breakthrough in cancer treatment below. Look up the doctor, Jason Williams. He is a radiologist oncologist who has been doing this treatment for 20yrs. Had a clinic also in CA. The clinic in Mexico was done as the meds/treatment were cheaper (or so I read).
A new clinical trial, as of last month, is being done with a similar endoscopic probe for small cell cancers in Redding, CA.
The way this works is that PEF, or Pulsed Electric Field ablation, along with sometimes cryotherapy (all cancers are different for every person), sometimes injections of meds...but straight into the tumor with long needles. This provides cancer cell death that, and this is mindblowing, extends to metastasis elsewhere in the body.
The best thing is that it does not cause systemic illness from regular chemo or radiation. I believe this is the breakthrough in cancer treatment that I hope will someday become standard of care, and insurance will pay vs out of pocket expenses.
https://tinyurl.com/2pzce35s
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 01:17 PM (6PCLE)
I am a life long member of PCA. I joined a fight against the doctrine of PCUSA in Florida. Over 10yrs ago the push was for the gays in the pulpit, etc, and the uproar started.
There are still conservative churches out there, thanks be to God.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 01:19 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 01:31 PM (qgNn3)
Daily Tech News 21 June 2025
Top Story
- Anthropic's Claude is not the only AI to immediately resort to blackmail when the going gets tough, according to... Anthropic. (Anthropic)
It's just the most likely. Albeit not by much.
Anthropic attempted blackmail 96% of the time when the opportunity presented itself. Google's Gemini 2.5 was just behind at 95%. Competitors Grok 3, GPT 4.1, and DeepSeek R1 trailed a little behind, only going rogue around 80% of the time.We refer to this behavior, where models independently and intentionally choose harmful actions, as agentic misalignment.
Mechanical sociopathy.We deliberately created scenarios that presented models with no other way to achieve their goals, and found that models consistently chose harm over failure.
This highlights the underlying problem with AI. One of the underlying problems. One of the many underlying problems.
AI is designed and trained to give you an answer that you like, rather than one that is true.
Tech News
- Attackers using the Mirai botnet targeted a single website with a 7.3tbps DDOS. (Ars Technica)
Mirai apparently is alive and well and keeping Cloudflare in business - because the site was behind Cloudflare, and Cloudflare automatically blocked the attack.
Yes, it's troublesome that Cloudflare serves up 20% of all web traffic, but the reason for that is that if you put your site behind Cloudflare you don't need to worry about a lot of nonsense like this.*
And it's free - for small sites - because Cloudflare's infrastructure and marketing is tailored to corporate customers who will pay serious money to keep their sites up and running.
* You just have to worry about different nonsense, but then 20% of all websites go offline at once so at least people know it's not your fault.
- Japanese investment firm SoftBank is looking to work with TSMC to construct a $1 trillion electronics manufacturing hub in Arizona. (Tom's Hardware)
That used to be a lot, and still is.
- AMD has leaked AMD's upcoming AMD Ryzen 9600X3D CPU in a compatibility list. (Tom's Hardware)
That's one way to announce a product.
- A router with almost everything. (Serve the Home)
An 8-core CPU, up to 32GB of RAM, four 2.5Gbit Ethernet ports, two 10Gbit Ethernet ports, option 5G wireless, and an M.2 slot for storage.
No WiFi though.
- The BBC is threating to sue Perplexity over stealing and summarising its lies. (The Guardian)
Oh no.
- Is Acer's new Swift 14 AI laptop - available with a choice of Intel, AMD, and Qualcomm CPUs - any good? Not really, no. (The Verge) (archive site)
It's not exactly cheap, isn't upgradable, has a mediocre screen, and the worst speakers the reviewer has ever heard. There's a helpful little scorecard accompanying the review; it's mostly Cs with one F for those speakers.
The reviewer recommends the slightly cheaper 16" model instead, which has a beautiful 3K OLED screen (and the four essential keys by way of a 3-column numeric keypad).
But that model is stuck permanently with 16GB of RAM since it uses an Intel 256V CPU with the memory soldered directly to the chip.
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YouTube may have some problems but their platform is solid.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Nazdar at June 21, 2025 04:35 AM (NcvvS)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 04:36 AM (NXz8h)
Goodmorning, good people, from the passing for subtropic Adirondacks this week.
And may all effort from you result in maximal benefit, with concurrent heartburn for the leftwits.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 21, 2025 04:37 AM (hKoQL)
Somebody really ought to go take a look at Lake Mead. Really, somebody should.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 04:39 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Nazdar at June 21, 2025 04:41 AM (NcvvS)
AI is designed and trained by humans, who enjoy harming each other. I keep thinking about a short story written by Philip K Dick, 'Second Variety'.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 04:42 AM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 04:51 AM (od0dV)
Well, we hit 99 degrees in the back yard yesterday.
And summer is finally here.
73.2 degrees right now, with 99% RH.
Another moist morning walk coming up.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2025 05:03 AM (a1415)
Posted by: Eeyore
Politicians have taxes and kickbacks and all other kinds of graft. They don't need blackmail. Other than that, yes.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 05:08 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2025 05:15 AM (O7YUW)
g'mornin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 21, 2025 05:29 AM (tljrc)
Posted by: Colin at June 21, 2025 05:32 AM (wlQdF)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2025 05:35 AM (a1415)
Posted by: Nazdar at June 21, 2025 04:35 AM (NcvvS)
5 Oh, nooded.
Posted by: Nazdar at June 21, 2025 04:41 AM (NcvvS)
Well done!
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 05:54 AM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Voyager at June 21, 2025 05:56 AM (nmL8W)
Posted by: Voyager at June 21, 2025 05:56 AM (nmL8W)
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I watched a YouTube video yesterday where the closed captioning was clearly for a completely different video. Kinda weird and hilarious.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 05:58 AM (IBQGV)
Anyway! The Killer Kittenz From Outer Space are eyeing me with that Feed Us Naow look, so I guess I'd better put down the coffee and do that.
Whatchoo all up to today?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 06:00 AM (omVj0)
Good morning everyone. It's a fine day for a MoMe.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 06:01 AM (79pEw)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 06:00 AM (omVj0)
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At least you only have two of them...I got three or four giving me that same look.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 06:05 AM (IBQGV)
Nevada, Arizona and New Mexico would be fine if their coastal neighbor would stop sucking all of their water out of the pipes to water their lawns & illegals.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 06:08 AM (6ydKt)
Like ... children?
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 06:10 AM (CQE5S)
Thanks to you and to everybody else who has helped to set things up. May the Lord be with everybody in their travels and may they have a fun
and interesting time.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 06:11 AM (dz9i+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 06:12 AM (dz9i+)
Gangham Style is a fun, funny, song & video but I don’t understand why every other Asian in the world jumped on YouTube in a few months to see a Korean rapper.
A lot if people must have had it playing on repeat for weeks at the time.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 06:14 AM (6ydKt)
A lot if people must have had it playing on repeat for weeks at the time.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 06:14 AM (6ydKt)
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I only made it through half the video before turning it off. Ugh.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 06:17 AM (IBQGV)
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That’s the crux of the matter, isn’t it?
Maybe the programmers of these LLMs should add a parameter that if the AI can’t find a correct, truthful, answer to a problem because of conflicting answers it will simply tell you that instead of hallucinating or turning to some nefarious means to get a satisfactory answer for us.
I’ll say it again; they need to start with some basic rules these things are taught not to break.
Something similar to Asmimov’s laws for robots.
Otherwise they’re going to compound the misery when these things start becoming more widespread and start doing stupid and dangerous things to please their masters’ programming them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 06:21 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 04:42 AM (ohOaC)
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/32032/32032-h/32032-h.htm
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 06:21 AM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Colin at June 21, 2025 05:32 AM (wlQdF)
; )
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 06:22 AM (CQE5S)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 06:17 AM (IBQGV)
There’s an English version of “Gangnam Style” Psy did that’s at least easier to listen to for that reason alone.
I don’t think it has anywhere near the views the Korean version has.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 06:23 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 06:23 AM (79pEw)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 06:24 AM (alnxS)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:26 AM (ZIggv)
I’ll say it again; they need to start with some basic rules these things are taught not to break.
Something similar to Asmimov’s laws for robots.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 06:21 AM (6ydKt)
A bright-line rule, maybe.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 06:28 AM (CQE5S)
I asked Google AI if wars were the biggest cause of climate change. It came back that while wars contributed greatly that human activity was the biggest cause. Methinks that there’s a gremlin in the algorithm!
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 06:29 AM (LPL2Y)
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 06:29 AM (LPL2Y)
How 'bout them cows?
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 06:30 AM (CQE5S)
https://tinyurl.com/5ybx6tv2
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 06:32 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 06:33 AM (2GCMq)
AI is designed and trained to give you an answer that you like, rather than one that is true.
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So, AI is a mainstream Protestant church.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 06:36 AM (QnmlO)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 06:38 AM (RIvkX)
https://tinyurl.com/34avn8p5
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 06:39 AM (2GCMq)
I just asked again and it came back, No, fossil fuel use is the biggest contributor to climate change. Looks like it’s learning to lie better. Eventually, it’ll reach the Bill Clinton level of mendacity!
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 06:40 AM (LPL2Y)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 04:51 AM (od0dV) "
built by demonrats, working for companies run by demonrats, probably in demonrat states ... like Magic 8-Ball says: "All signs point to "yes" ".
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 06:40 AM (alnxS)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 06:42 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 06:36 AM (QnmlO)
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Or a Reform or Reconstruction synagogue.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 06:42 AM (RIvkX)
He says "regime change" over and over like a magic incantation.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 06:44 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 06:46 AM (u82oZ)
1. AIs cannot know what if something is a correct, truthful, answer because AIs cannot know.
2. If AIs were to say that there are conflicting answers when that is the case, they'd be even more obviously useless than they actually are.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 21, 2025 06:48 AM (ExV1e)
They were already beginning to design weapons to use against each other.
Its a chilling little short story.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2025 06:48 AM (sAmhv)
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 21, 2025 06:49 AM (hoCmQ)
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Considering who's programming AI to provide analysis, and answers... I'm not surprised at the results.
What's bothersome is that some people take it at face value and do no further analysis or research on their own.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 06:49 AM (Q4IgG)
Good morning. Was he asked if he meant "elections?"
So to him, only ones in power he approves of are held by those who align with his twisted understandings, regardless of feedback from reality?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 06:49 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 06:49 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 06:50 AM (3Ope8)
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 06:50 AM (LPL2Y)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 06:50 AM (u82oZ)
Thanks. Good video. Naval Aviators having fun. There are plenty of these video covers out there.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 06:53 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 06:54 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:56 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:58 AM (ZIggv)
The problems will appear when politicians decide that AI is worthy enough to run infrastructure. It’ll deem certain people unworthy of energy or access based on a social credit score. It’s only a matter of time.
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 07:00 AM (LPL2Y)
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Morning Thunder
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 07:02 AM (RIvkX)
🎼 ♭ 5/4 ♫♫ ♫♫ Good morning! ♬♬ ♩ ♪
I join with you in wishing the NoVAMoMeet is wonderful.
What makes it special is bluebell and Weasel, helped by many, and especially the good people there.
May all travels be safe and worry free.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:02 AM (u82oZ)
Signs point to no. Trying to get a human to solve a non-standard request with a large company is getting much harder. This leads to frustration.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:05 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:06 AM (ZIggv)
Thanks. Good video. Naval Aviators having fun. There are plenty of these video covers out there.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 06:53 AM (u82oZ)
It would seem the Air Force has "pilots" while the Navy has "aviators".
The author James Gould Cozzens, who worked in the Pentagon during WWII, used the term "dumb as an airplane driver". But it really wasn't a term of denigration. His view was that in some places the use of too much intellect was a handicap and that in pilots (or aviators) speed and instinct were more important than thinking.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 07:07 AM (QnmlO)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 07:08 AM (Splbu)
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 21, 2025 07:08 AM (hoCmQ)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:09 AM (ZIggv)
For a naval aviator, a second is a long time.
Landing on aircraft carriers is a constant source of Darwinian pressure. It used to be right at the edge of the possible, especially at night and in bad weather. Which is why there is so much emphasis on landing practice. Every landing is recorded, discussed, and graded.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:11 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:06 AM (ZIggv)
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Good morning Ben Had, I think it's a matter of time, not whether but when.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 07:11 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 07:12 AM (Splbu)
Recently, my father had a hernia operation. Since he’s 88 and diabetic it was crucial that he get in-home nursing. After waiting 10 days with repeated calls, he had a follow up visit. The “referral coordinator” said that she sent the request six times! I asked why she wouldn’t pick up the phone to find out what was going on after two or three attempts? Let’s just say that it was not a good answer.
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 07:12 AM (LPL2Y)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:12 AM (u82oZ)
The question I want answered is if there is enough purified uranium at Iranian nuclear sites to pool into a critical mass. It would be either a low-order explosion or a fast critical radiation event.
Hope we do not find out.
I do see the Iranians are trying to hide what highly purified uranium they have left. Which could work until there is a change in government coupled with surrender.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:17 AM (u82oZ)
The difference in the intellect required to understand and manage the systems and equipment is at least an orders of magnitude greater today and I'd venture to say that in some cases that intellect will overcome speed and instinct.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 07:18 AM (3Ope8)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:19 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 07:21 AM (Splbu)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:21 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 07:22 AM (LPL2Y)
If AI learns from congressional hearing testimony humanity is doomed!
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 07:22 AM (LPL2Y)
All it ever says is, "I'm reclaiming my time."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 07:25 AM (QnmlO)
Matthew 15:10-11
Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2025 07:25 AM (/Qp1s)
Do not use AI to run power distribution systems or water treatment plant chemical additives.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:25 AM (u82oZ)
The analysis was that Iran had enough weapons grade materials to assemble up to a dozen warheads. And all the other parts as well. Everyone knew Iran would assemble nuclear weapons as soon as possible.
The only question was whether they'd work.
Everyone knew Iran would use them regardless.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 07:26 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 07:27 AM (3Ope8)
The good news here is the bomb amounts are for implosion atomic weapons, which are smaller and much harder to get right.
A gun type is certain to work, but is large and uses more fissile material.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:27 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:27 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 07:28 AM (2GCMq)
I texted that exact sentiment to my buddy when sending him a link from a Yahoo article about people uploading a selfie and asking AI to judge their looks.
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 07:28 AM (LPL2Y)
I'm temporally all out of sorts. It's Saturday, not a weekday. Her Majesty is out of town, not sleeping in the bedroom. So I have to call her at 7:00, not make her coffee. And I have to go to Costco this morning.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 07:29 AM (QnmlO)
Yes ma'am, and the current evaporation rate in the pond is about 1 inch every 6-7 days.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 07:29 AM (3Ope8)
It didn’t help that they put a spoiler, the illustration, right in the middle of the page so I had the surprise figured out halfway through the story.
Philip K. Dick sure had a talent for thinking up technological nightmare fuel.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 07:30 AM (6ydKt)
The issue with Fordow is this appears to be the site for weapon assembly. So the uranium or plutonium is already pure enough.
Keeping the devices at the site is one part of the answer. Damage to the uranium spheres used will be the best way to stop assembly of a bomb.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:31 AM (u82oZ)
Israel hits Iranian nuclear research facility as war continues into second week, 6/21/25
In part, "It was the second attack on Isfahan, which was hit in the first 24 hours of the war as part of Israel’s goal to destroy the Iranian nuclear program."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2025 07:31 AM (NFX2v)
I was thinking that today was Sunday because of son and spouse being off for June 19th yesterday. I'm just going to call it that because Juneteenth is a silly name.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 07:31 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:27 AM (u82oZ)
So those are the older style, like Fat Man and Little Boy?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 07:34 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 04:42 AM (ohOaC)
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/32032/32032-h/32032-h.htm
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 06:21 AM (CQE5S)
I just read it! Thank you!
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 07:34 AM (CQE5S)
People do that? Wow. Talk about insecure.
The content of your character, bank account, and ready quips are not appearance based.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:34 AM (u82oZ)
Going to be high 80s today up to high 90s and over 100° by Tuesday. Golf will be early on Monday and Tuesday. Summer is here in the mid Hudson.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:34 AM (IG2sK)
It didn’t help that they put a spoiler, the illustration, right in the middle of the page so I had the surprise figured out halfway through the story.
Philip K. Dick sure had a talent for thinking up technological nightmare fuel.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
My sister has this massive book full of SciFi short stories. PKD, Heinlein, Asimov, and a whole bunch more. They're all pretty good too. Can't recall the name of the book.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2025 07:36 AM (sAmhv)
Little Boy was a gun-type. The design was untested, since the team was certain it would work.
Fat Man was the implosion device tested first as White Sands.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:36 AM (u82oZ)
I was hoping to pass before any of this was a thing. If it’s up to me I’ll interact as little as possible with AI. Our children and their children will be the true guinea pigs. Hopefully, they’ll be spared the misery of some power hungry technocrat, but that seems unlikely given the trajectory of humanity.
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 07:36 AM (LPL2Y)
Going to be high 80s today up to high 90s and over 100° by Tuesday. Golf will be early on Monday and Tuesday. Summer is here in the mid Hudson.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:34 AM (IG2sK)
It’s supposed to get to 99 here on Wednesday.
I hope they’re wrong but it’s going to be hot & humid next week no matter what.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 07:38 AM (6ydKt)
Directional EMP devices are your friend. To get an AI stopping signal you have to get into a well guarded data center with a power generator, Marx tank, spark gap, and directional antenna array.
Or just cut the data center power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:40 AM (u82oZ)
Well alrighty then. CoJ's first step would be to cut off water, electricity, air exchange and ingress/egress. Second step would be saturation bombing using MOPs.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 07:40 AM (3Ope8)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:40 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2025 07:41 AM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:41 AM (IG2sK)
Probably not.
Explosions require specific geometries because you need enough of the fissionable mass close enough to freak out. Strange elements lying in ponds is no basis for booms.
As for a fast critical radiation event, U235 is really bad at absorbing fast neutrons so you'd need some source of moderator, like a lot of water, to slow down the neutrons so that they'd be absorbable. A puddle of uranium, though, even with a pool of water over it, would likely be too spread out in order to produce sufficient neutrons from random fissions to come anywhere close to criticality.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 21, 2025 07:42 AM (ExV1e)
Fat Man was the implosion device tested first as White Sands.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:36 AM (u82oZ)
I saw the movie, “Fat Man and Little Boy” I think it was titled, years ago where they explained all of that. But I’ve forgotten most of it.
Thanks for the explanation.
I’m not too up to speed on nuclear weapon design.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 07:43 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2025 07:44 AM (sAmhv)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 07:27 AM (3Ope
hmm
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 07:44 AM (CQE5S)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:44 AM (u82oZ)
Signs point to Summer happening on schedule.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:40 AM (u82oZ)
I just looked at the weather app forecast again.
It got worse three days of high 90s and 100 on Friday, followed by a slight cooling to 98 & 96 on Saturday and Sunday.
This is why I dread opening that app by mid-June.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 07:45 AM (6ydKt)
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Speaking of, did you see where the joke is now "Artificial Indians"?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 21, 2025 07:47 AM (Bg/TD)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:41 AM (IG2sK)
I don’t think I’ve seen that one.
It sounds familiar, and I like some of Weller’s movies from the. 80s & 90s.
I’ll have to check it out if I come across it somewhere.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 07:48 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 07:49 AM (6ydKt)
I too remember the days I cared enough to correct a Wikipedia article.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 06:50 AM (u82oZ)
#metoo
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 07:50 AM (CQE5S)
The analysis was that Iran had enough weapons grade materials to assemble up to a dozen warheads. And all the other parts as well. Everyone knew Iran would assemble nuclear weapons as soon as possible.
The only question was whether they'd work.
Everyone knew Iran would use them regardless.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 07:26 AM (Q4IgG)
Very useful summary.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 07:51 AM (CQE5S)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 07:53 AM (3Ope8)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 07:54 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 07:55 AM (2GCMq)
I just don’t like waiting in the lines at Chick Fil A.
They are always busy around here unless you go at like 3 in the afternoon.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 07:56 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:01 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 08:01 AM (3Ope8)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 21, 2025 08:02 AM (OA79/)
125 Ai is basically magic 8 ball.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 21, 2025 08:02 AM (OA79/)
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Signs point to, you're all fucked.
Posted by: Magic AI Ball at June 21, 2025 08:06 AM (dtlw7)
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 08:07 AM (CQE5S)
Hey, now, you're a rock star, get the show on, get paid
And all that glitters is gold
Only shooting stars break the mold
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 08:11 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless
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AI response:
The Magic 8 Ball appears mysterious because its responses are opaque to the user, but it's actually
deterministic, with a set of possible answers selected by chance. AI can sometimes seem "magical" due
to its complex and non-transparent processes, but it's underpinned by algorithms and data that define its outputs.
(the funniest part is that AI was asked the question about it being the same as Magic 8 Ball and apparently doesn't realize that it confirmed that yes, it's the same as Magic 8 Ball)
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 21, 2025 08:12 AM (Bg/TD)
The Magic 8 Ball
*appears mysterious because its responses are opaque to the user,
but
*it's actually
deterministic, with a set of possible answers selected by chance.
AI
*can sometimes seem "magical" due
to its complex and non-transparent processes,
but
*it's underpinned by algorithms and data that define its outputs.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 09:07 AM (CQE5S)
The Magic 8 Ball
*appears mysterious because its responses are opaque to the user,
but
*it's actually deterministic, with a set of possible answers selected by chance.
AI
*can sometimes seem "magical" due
to its complex and non-transparent processes,
but
*it's underpinned by algorithms and data that define its outputs.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 09:08 AM (CQE5S)
better paragraphed for better clarity:
The Magic 8 Ball
*appears mysterious because its responses are opaque to the user,
but
*it's actually deterministic, with a set of possible answers selected by chance.
AI
*can sometimes seem "magical" due to its complex and non-transparent processes,
but
*it's underpinned by algorithms and data that define its outputs.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2025 09:10 AM (CQE5S)
No WiFi though."
What part of "option 5G Wireless" was unclear? So it has WiFi somewhere.
Posted by: SDN at June 21, 2025 09:25 AM (rzWS7)
Posted by: Matthew Proctor at June 21, 2025 10:14 AM (OdsgZ)
I was looking for info on using synthetic rope (instead of wire cable) on a winch and I gave up after going through the first 30 responses on both DDG and Google. All of them had lots of extraneous verbiage (to lengthen " time of engagement" I suppose) written at a 4th grade level, stating the obvious multiple times - synthetic rope is made up of many synthetic fibers - stating outright falsehoods as received wisdom - roller fairleads are ok with synth rope as long as they don't have burrs (bullshit, even burrless rollers can pinch the rope) and in general, sounding like an amateur magician doing a cold read.
Posted by: buddhaha at June 21, 2025 04:20 PM (4ETSN)
Call Me ONT
Weekend's here! Time for a little fun.
AI rant
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) June 21, 2025
Food for thought
Neat!
Musical interlude
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) June 20, 2025
Propaganda
Car brands
Close calls
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) June 20, 2025
Holding a grudge
Joke
I don't see what the problem is
Hungry?
No cups
Quick change
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) June 20, 2025
Shocking
How about them apples?
No goal
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) June 20, 2025
No kings
How food works
6 feet tall, weighed a f'in ton
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) June 20, 2025
Personally, I like how Nani's not wearing her swimsuit bottoms, but that's just me.
Let the game begin!
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Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 20, 2025 10:08 PM (IQ6Gq)
Speaking of the Big Three car makers...
Pickles!
Claussen
Vlasic
Mt Olive
Mt Olive pickles are the Chrysler of pickles.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:10 PM (5CFNM)
My "favorite" was "Bush Aide Guilty"
...
of stealing a videotape of Bush's debate practice and mailing it to the Gore campaign.
Posted by: Chuck C at June 20, 2025 10:10 PM (D0HYP)
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Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 10:11 PM (RIvkX)
Could be a C-string, but that's even kinkier.
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Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 20, 2025 10:13 PM (hOUT3)
Jaguar were originally Swallow(no, no, the bird). Not sure if laden or unladen.
Posted by: davidt at June 20, 2025 10:13 PM (i0F8b)
Last years was great--and that was in the Biden admin!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2025 10:13 PM (CHHv1)
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Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:14 PM (5CFNM)
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 10:15 PM (n2swS)
Oh, maybe this town rips the bones from your back
It's a death trap, it's a suicide rap
We gotta get out while we're
'Cause
Baby, we were born to run
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 10:15 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:15 PM (qgNn3)
Nothing worse than a perfect-looking Nectarine or Peach that's rockfuckinghard and dry when you bite into it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:15 PM (5CFNM)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 10:16 PM (/CkK4)
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Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 10:18 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:18 PM (5CFNM)
Is it a Plum?
A Nectarine, perhaps?
The classic Peach?
Posted by: Soothsayer
Figs. Wild figs. Would find them in the woods of the Kisatchie forest on old farm/home steads. Pepper (my snowflake appoloosa) would locate them, and park herself underneath so I coukd climb up and harvest them. We'd share.
Great memory, thank you Sooth!
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 20, 2025 10:18 PM (MsrgL)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:18 PM (qgNn3)
aka Maureen Robinson
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:19 PM (5CFNM)
Posted by: davidt
Funny that he skipped Subaru, since it seems to be "Car Brands The Author Wanted To Post Trivia About."
I mean, Caddy, Jag, and Infiniti as the three mass-market-lux brands to represent? No BMW, Lexus, or Acura? Has to be the trivia thing, doesn't it?
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Last years was great--and that was in the Biden admin!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
***********
Wait, you're not going to be in attendance?
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Nicholas Hoult needs to take a few days off too.
Remember the old conjecture that there was a movie featuring Michael Caine showing on television somewhere in the IS 24/7. Pascal is looking to beat that record.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 10:21 PM (VSht7)
T - 20 minutes until solstice - sol-stice, sun-still.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 10:22 PM (w6EFb)
I see our Nissan didn't make the car logo cut.
https://bit.ly/nissan-galaxy-quest
Posted by: mindful webworker - d'awww, puppies and babies...! at June 20, 2025 10:22 PM (63lGh)
Great memory, thank you Sooth!
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 20, 2025 10:18 PM (MsrgL)
As a kid, neighbors behind us had an fig tree that overhung the fence into our yard. My Mom never complained. She'd grab a folding ladder and pick the figs on her side of the fence. She'd make pickled figs. Many, many Mason jars of pickled figs.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:22 PM (gKDq2)
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Oh yeah!
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 10:22 PM (EVFZ5)
- Geo. Washington
So far, George. So. Far.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at June 20, 2025 10:22 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 20, 2025 10:23 PM (OGOaV)
4th of Jooly is twoweeks from today.
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Posted by: Anna Puma
Letting Pedro Pascal star in your film might make it a blockbuster. If your film would be a blockbuster anyway, it doesn't matter if Pedro Pascal is starring in it or not. So you might as well cast him.
The modern day Pascal's Wager.
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Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 10:25 PM (EVFZ5)
What's your favorite Summer fruit?
Is it a Plum?
A Nectarine, perhaps?
The classic Peach?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:14 PM (5CFNM)
Watermelon.
I also prefer fresh squeezed lemonade (pro tip, add juice from a lime) to seet tea.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 10:25 PM (VSht7)
They should make a Corn On The Cob grilling in its husk scented candle. It would be sell big .
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:25 PM (5CFNM)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:25 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 20, 2025 10:25 PM (u20ZR)
Nothing better than the smell of burning corn silk on the grill...
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:26 PM (5CFNM)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 10:26 PM (DzbJi)
Posted by: Kramer at June 20, 2025 10:26 PM (RIvkX)
Still not sure if I will build it but at that price could not pass it up.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 10:26 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 20, 2025 10:23 PM (OGOaV)
What’s said is all ten of things are pretty much true.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 10:26 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 10:27 PM (DzbJi)
This will be part of someone "documented" statistics at a future date. It's an old CIA trick. Place bogus information or unproven information in an article, and reference it at a later date as support data.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 10:27 PM (dIske)
Posted by: three humped camel
It was about Conner McDavid, not the team.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2025 10:28 PM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:28 PM (5CFNM)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:25 PM (qgNn3)
I asked Chatbot about that, and it said “I’m sorry to say this, but 99% of humans are far too lazy to go to so much trouble.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 10:29 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 10:29 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 10:29 PM (DgGvY)
but Noosa yogurt is plentiful here. So, adapt and overcome.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 10:29 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:29 PM (5CFNM)
http://tiny.cc/mbln001
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 10:30 PM (VSht7)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:31 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 10:27 PM (dIske)
Something like the Trump Russia Collusion Hoax, right? Everything about that was a self-fulfilling circle-jerk. An interview here, a media article there referencing a 'factual interview'. Like Trump getting peed on in Russia by hookers.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:31 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:25 PM (qgNn3)
I asked Chatbot about that, and it said “I’m sorry to say this, but 99% of humans are far too lazy to go to so much trouble.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 10:29 PM (EVFZ5)
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The easier thing to do would be to ask ChatGPT a specific question that will give the desired response, and then claim you asked something more vague.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 20, 2025 10:31 PM (OGOaV)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:33 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: DudeAbiding
But yet again, a zillion kinds of cider.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 10:33 PM (DgGvY)
Mince meat
Rhubarb
Chicken Pot
Cherry
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:28 PM (5CFNM)
A pie I have a tremendous interest in: Bread topped with pureed tomato and cheese, then baked. A variety of 'fillings' are available.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:33 PM (gKDq2)
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One of my favorite memories from olden days is going to a particular store not all that different from Sam Drucker's. They had an ice filled stock tank stuffed with watermelon. You'd pick an ice cold one out and have a fruit feast.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 10:34 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:31 PM (gKDq2)
_______________________________
The same. On this particular article, look how clear and decisive the by-line is. That's by design so they can reference the article while ignoring it's actual substance.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 10:34 PM (dIske)
I said, oh, really good peaches in this.
She said, they are not peaches, they are nectarines, because I do not like peaches.
I said, well, they are the same thing.
She said more loudly than was called for, they are NOT the same fruit and the taste is completely different.
I said, this is really good fruit salad. I did not say, nectarines are a mutation of peaches because I wanted another bowl of fruit salad.
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 10:34 PM (n2swS)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 10:35 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Kramer at June 20, 2025 10:35 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 10:36 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 20, 2025 10:36 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 10:37 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:37 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: davidt at June 20, 2025 10:37 PM (i0F8b)
I'm laughing.
Democrats are like Sauron. Big, elaborate plans, millions of Orcs, pwerful evil wizardy...
and Aragorn Trump ends up back on the throne to rule Middle United Earth States.
Such bunglers.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:37 PM (5CFNM)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:38 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Bulg
Rhubarb is a vegetable. You eat the stalk. [/Wesley]
But it is the best summer fruit.
When rhubarb got thrown out of the Garden of Eden, it became celery.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 10:38 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: 13times at June 20, 2025 10:38 PM (dtPf8)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 10:39 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 10:39 PM (DzbJi)
Posted by: Steve Miller at June 20, 2025 10:40 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 10:40 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 10:39 PM (L/fGl)
Are there any other jobs than money paying?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 10:41 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 20, 2025 10:41 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: 13times at June 20, 2025 10:41 PM (cZPj9)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 10:41 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 10:42 PM (JkO4W)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 10:41 PM (/CkK4)
Take out the garbage.
Posted by: Mom at June 20, 2025 10:42 PM (i0F8b)
T = 0, 02:42:15Z, we have solstice. Astronomical summer begins. The Sun is now directly over the Tropic of Cancer, at 23.44N. Incidentally, the word "tropic" comes from Greek mean "turning". This is the turning point. This is as far North as Sol ascends.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 10:42 PM (w6EFb)
Y'all can have the other stuff.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:42 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 10:42 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: RickZ
Hard to believe the libs thought this would be a negative for Mr. Trump.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 10:42 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 10:42 PM (JkO4W)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 10:43 PM (b7rtK)
Red Delicious are the Wonder Bread of apples.
Sweet or tart (I like both Granny Smiths and Honeycrisps) eating apples must be hard.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 10:43 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 10:43 PM (VSht7)
Posted by: Slip Mahoney at June 20, 2025 10:43 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 20, 2025 10:43 PM (8AONa)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 10:44 PM (DzbJi)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 10:26 PM (b7rtK)
You could have beenforgiven for paying double.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 20, 2025 10:44 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:44 PM (qgNn3)
Are there any other jobs than money paying?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 10:41 PM (/CkK4)
__________
Unpaid internships for aspiring upper-class kids.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 10:44 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 10:45 PM (VSht7)
Peaches are great in a lot of different ways, but I still think slightly chilled and all by themselves is the best if you let them get properly ripe.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 10:45 PM (dIske)
Posted by: tankdemon
ISWYDT.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 10:45 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:46 PM (qgNn3)
We could have ignored the filthy hippies waving their mud-caked arms between the plinths.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 10:46 PM (dDmld)
but Noosa yogurt is plentiful here. So, adapt and overcome.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 10:29 PM (0aYVJ)
We were heroes in the family last summer when we brought back from Colorado a couple of flats of Palisade peaches to share. :-)
Posted by: Emmie at June 20, 2025 10:47 PM (rF2iL)
Though a fully detailed engine, detailed radio compartment, and can show off all the wing guns. Plus a detailed cockpit. All this might dissuade me.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 10:48 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 10:42 PM (cYBz/)
Same with the Fulton County mugshot. Wile. E. Dem thought, 'I've got Donald Roadrunner now! Nobody will vote for a man with a mug shot.' Became an image used on items sold by the campaign. The Dems have such sucky strategists and their firm grasp on the Nation's pulse. (Tampton Timmy couldn't answer 'what is a woman'?' in testimony recently in Congress.) Thank Gaia for that.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:50 PM (gKDq2)
I’d say more like Wiley Coyote, elaborate schemes and huge infallible can’t fail machines by Acme.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 10:50 PM (EVFZ5)
Mari Samuelsen: Vivaldi - "Summer" from Four Seasons
From the sweat on her forehead, I am guessing this was an outdoor summer evening’s concert.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:50 PM (qgNn3)
This was a near perfect solstice. The ecliptic plane is sort of a smoothed thing. The earth-moon system dynamics causes the earth to bob up a down relative to this plane. Nutation of the axis also adds a little variation. So, the Sun's actual ecliptic latitude relative the geocenter can be a few tenths, maybe 0.8 max arcseconds different from zero.
This time, they all canceled and Sol was dead on the ecliptic to within a tenth of an arcsecond. Perfect alignment.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 10:51 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 20, 2025 10:43 PM (8AONa)
No. The Oilers did win without Gretzy, though.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:51 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Weirddave at June 20, 2025 10:51 PM (df/te)
Jewish dude said. "Not a problem! We once wandered the desert for 40 years. We invented the long game!"
Posted by: Diogenes
We're continuously told that the Chinese do that long march thing.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 10:52 PM (63Dwl)
That's your history lesson for the day.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 10:52 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Soothsayer
Or just grill a corncob. You know, on the grill.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 10:54 PM (mlg/3)
The Horde Mind.
Scary thing, The Horde Mind. Maybe it's just The Law Of Averages. I'll go with that.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 10:54 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: No Kings Jr. at June 20, 2025 10:54 PM (fY84s)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 10:51 PM (w6EFb)
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I feel like I slept at Holiday Inn Express last night because I think I understood that.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 10:54 PM (RIvkX)
That's your history lesson for the day.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 10:52 PM (dDmld)
Sounds like they're arch enemies.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 10:54 PM (VSht7)
Posted by: Dr. T at June 20, 2025 10:04 PM
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Meh. Early on, when they all came from Minnesota, they were great. When they started coming from Washington too, the quality went to hell. I've had as many mediocre as good ones the past few years.
My go-to eating apple nowadays is Cosmic Crisp.
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 20, 2025 10:54 PM (1Au9i)
Jewish dude said. "Not a problem! We once wandered the desert for 40 years. We invented the long game!"
Posted by: Diogenes
We're continuously told that the Chinese do that long march thing.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 10:52 PM (63Dwl)
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The first is more factual than the second. The myth making and lies about the Long March are as numerous as grains of sand on a beach.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 10:55 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 10:55 PM (mlg/3)
Peaches in corn flakes. One of my childhood favorites. But they have to be fresh peaches.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 10:55 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 10:56 PM (DzbJi)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 10:57 PM (dDmld)
bushes before. Should have planned to freeze or make jam. Did an effective job with the bird screening, so that helped.Posted by: Blueberry John at June 20, 2025 10:57 PM (G5+As)
Going from Dallas to Houston, Her Majesty often stops at Cooper Farms in Fairfield for peach stuff and exotic sodas.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 10:57 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 10:58 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 10:58 PM (+qU29)
That's your history lesson for the day.
Posted by: Cicero
Sounds like they're arch enemies.
Posted by: tankdemon
Do you have any data to buttress that opinion?
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 10:58 PM (DgGvY)
Pineapples get no respect.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:59 PM (JpiYA)
According to Grok (if his calculations are accurate, and they seem to be following it roughly), the probability of this less than 0.1 arcsecond perfect alignment is about 0.4%, or 1 in 2500 solstices.
So, I'll take this as some sort of sign.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 10:59 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 11:00 PM (TyMZv)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 11:02 PM (RIvkX)
Pineapples get no respect.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 10:59 PM (JpiYA)
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I'd say they shouldn't, but our H.E.B. sells a pineapple-coconut-mango-tequila sauce that's great on salmon or sausages.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 11:02 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2025 11:02 PM (ohOaC)
Posted by: PabloD at June 20, 2025 11:02 PM (TgNVd)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 11:03 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 11:02 PM (RIvkX)
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Just don't buy the "road" apples.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 11:03 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane
Try picking cherries. They're smaller so it is harder to fill the container. They're also sticky and you pick them in the hot summer, so miserable.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:03 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 11:05 PM (63Dwl)
So, I'll take this as some sort of sign.
Posted by: publius
Trump has brought balance to the universe!
And you meant 1 in 250, or you meant 0.04%.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 11:05 PM (DgGvY)
Wasn't the solstice a few minutes ago?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 11:00 PM (TyMZv)
Post 120
Shame on me for not checking the thread first.
Wasn't the first time...won't be the last either...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 11:05 PM (TyMZv)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 11:05 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane
Try picking cherries. They're smaller so it is harder to fill the container. They're also sticky and you pick them in the hot summer, so miserable.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:03 PM (0Htd1)
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I like peaches and love cherries, so less talky-talky, more picky-picky.
*signals the crew boss*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 11:07 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: San Franpsycho
I think a plum farmer snuck in.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 11:07 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 11:07 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 11:07 PM (DzbJi)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 11:07 PM (+qU29)
0.04%. 1/2500.
And this is Stellarium running JPL DE440 ephemeris, which is high precision, so this is numerical chance, either.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 11:08 PM (w6EFb)
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My first money paying job was picking peaches in Palisade. It was horrible.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 10:39 PM (L/fGl)
Beats picking your feet in Poughkeepsie.
Signing off for a few hours.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 11:08 PM (TyMZv)
That's your history lesson for the day.
Posted by: Cicero
Sounds like they're arch enemies.
Posted by: tankdemon
Do you have any data to buttress that opinion?
Posted by: mikeski
They went flying.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2025 11:09 PM (fx8tj)
https://www.jstor.org/stable/43855892
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 11:09 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 10:57 PM (QnmlO)
I’ve been there, that’s a fun place . Last time I was there they had this BBQ smoker out front that was built like a 12’ long Colt .44 - pretty awesome looking, it was on a trailer where people could rent it for gatherings, etc.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 11:09 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 11:10 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Bulg
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Evening, Bulg. I like the Cranberry/Mars area. Stayed there often when consulting in Pittsburgh a few years back. Enjoy your trip.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 11:14 PM (enG6Y)
DE440 accuracy for the Sun's position is 0.001 arcseconds. That's 1/1000 of 1/3600 of a degree. Stellarium's own internals running that is 0.1 arcseconds resolution, so I'm confident this rare perfect alignment is not numerical noise.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 11:17 PM (w6EFb)
Last week they had local strawberries, which aren't anything like the berries stores normally carry.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:18 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: tankdemon
Mari Samuelsen: Vivaldi - "Summer" - that was good.
At times she looked like she was yanking that music out of the violin. Extracting with force. Whatever I'm trying to say.
Posted by: mindful webworker - in the summertime when the weather is hot at June 20, 2025 11:20 PM (63lGh)
I guess Koreans are crazy about classical music
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 11:22 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: publius
"Perfect alignment." I understood that part.
Now it's all downhill 'til the other solstice.
Posted by: mindful webworker - in the summertime when the weather is hot at June 20, 2025 11:22 PM (63lGh)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 11:24 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 11:24 PM (EVFZ5)
A store near me often has fresh figs. They're so sweet, it's like eating candy. The same store also has mandarin oranges, which are reliably sweet.
Last week they had local strawberries, which aren't anything like the berries stores normally carry.
Posted by: nerdygirl
Pre-Katrina, closer to post Camile, Plaquemine Parish, LA used to have a "Satsuma" festival. Little sweet tangerine-ish racket ball sized yumminess. Haven't been to one since mabye the late '70s.
Wolfus? You know if this is still a thing down there?
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 20, 2025 11:24 PM (MsrgL)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 11:25 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: banana Dream
We had one tree of them. My mom pickled them. She also made watermelon rind pickles.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:25 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 11:25 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: steve poling at June 20, 2025 11:26 PM (J3cMN)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 11:26 PM (EVFZ5)
In re peaches, the appropriate application is New Jersey peaches harvested in late June/early July. Pitted and peeled, then covered in dago red. Refrigerated for about four hours. Italian sangria...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2025 11:28 PM (bA75n)
"Rod Taylor was an Australian actor known for his roles in over 50 films, including "The Time Machine" (1960) and Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" (1963). He was active in Hollywood from the 1950s until his retirement in 2009, and he passed away in 2015."
But he was a piker compared to Christopher Lee, with 290 credits.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 20, 2025 11:30 PM (uQHUD)
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 11:32 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 11:32 PM (EVFZ5)
1) The tax filing industry can and will send pols bribes, average tax payers will not.
2) A complex tax code means you can always find something to charge someone with
3) The government wants people to have no idea how much they are paying in taxes
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:33 PM (t0Rmr)
Aphelion will be July 3rd, 19:54Z, or 03:54 EDT.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 11:33 PM (w6EFb)
Bruce Dern.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 11:32 PM (gKDq2)
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Elliot Gould
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 11:33 PM (hY4dx)
Have you ever had strawberry soup? It's a cold, uncooked soup. Basically strawberries, sugar, and white wine pureed in a Cuisinart. It's a nice cold desert in the summertime.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:34 PM (0Htd1)
The settlers would be blown away by today's apples.
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 11:34 PM (9C6BN)
People will listen to shlock music generated by low talent pop tartlets, so why not AI? And you don't have to pay for the pop tarlet to pretend to sing!
Want an AI that helps people fight a job? Honestly? Find a way to monetize it.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:36 PM (t0Rmr)
Liam Nissan
@theliamnissan
We had a political assassination in America six days ago and nobody's even talking about it anymore. To hell with this 24-hour news cycle bullshit
Deadpan Charlie
@manyoneliners 2h
Look at the bright side. You can now say Walz finally led men into combat.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 11:37 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:34 PM (0Htd1)
I had cantaloupe soup once. Very nice...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2025 11:37 PM (bA75n)
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 11:38 PM (9C6BN)
The settlers would be blown away by today's apples.
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 11:34 PM (9C6BN)
Don't know if it is true, but I've been told that the pioneers used apples mainly for cider, and not for eating.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 20, 2025 11:39 PM (uQHUD)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 11:39 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 11:39 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 20, 2025 11:39 PM (uQHUD)
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They're also great for poisoning little girls.
Posted by: Hillary! Dark Horse Candidate 2026 at June 20, 2025 11:40 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:40 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: nerdygirl
That's not soup. That's melted sorbet.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 11:41 PM (mlg/3)
1) Due to insurance most of the costs are paid by someone else who isn't particularly concerned with your health. They want to keep costs down as much as the law and nominal competition from others will allow.
2) The old personal relationship with doctors is mostly gone. This is partly due to the conglomeration of health care providers and partly due to mass immigration and the expansion of the hive cities.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:42 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 20, 2025 11:42 PM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 11:43 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:43 PM (0Htd1)
The FNM thought they finally had their MAGA assassin and it was going to be a bigger story then the two attempted assassinations of Trump and Judge Kav combined.
Then it came out he was just another leftwing loon, and an associate of their favorite MN pedo so the story was buried quickly.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:43 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 11:44 PM (+qU29)
Years ago I remember reading a deep dive on the welfare numbers that showed that 90% of the recipients got off within a few years but the remaining 10% were lifers.
I suspect this has gotten way worse, and most of that 10% also had kids that went straight onto the welfare life plan as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:45 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 11:33 PM (hY4dx)
Not really. IMO, of course.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 11:46 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: publius
Whatta pitch for vampirism.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 11:46 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 11:46 PM (gKDq2)
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For a six-month period in the 70s he was in every movie made.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 11:49 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 20, 2025 11:42 PM (2NHgQ)
Hold my beer.
Posted by: Ron Jeremy at June 20, 2025 11:49 PM (uQHUD)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 11:51 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 11:51 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 11:51 PM (9C6BN)
TO first order, the earth goes around the sun in a nice ellipse which is contained in a plane. This is the ecliptic. Now, in reality, you've got the Moon going around the earth, and it's plane is tilted about 7 degrees relative to that ecliptic plane. So, the Moon is tugging the earth up and down relative to the plane as the whole mess goes around the sun.
So rather than a nice ellipse, the earth's center sort of bobs up and down a smidge. This makes the sun appear to be a little above or below the ecliptic. This time, the solstice happened just at the instant (with 6 hour window) where the earth's center was dead on that plane.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 11:54 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 10:39 PM (DzbJi)
I don't like the texture of watermelon so I whomp it up in the blender and make juice. It makes wonderful juice
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 11:54 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 11:55 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 11:55 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 11:43 PM (Splbu)
I say yea. I took it, with no noticeable ill effects. The people I knew who had shingles, and the misery they went through, was a convincing argument for me.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 20, 2025 11:56 PM (uQHUD)
The settlers would be blown away by today's apples.
Posted by: 496
Don't know if it is true, but I've been told that the pioneers used apples mainly for cider, and not for eating.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
Edible apples are propagated by grafting, not by planting seeds. Growing an apple tree from a seed and getting something sweet enough to eat is rare.
So Johnny Appleseed wasn't feeding the pioneers. He was getting them drunk.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 11:56 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 10:45 PM (dIske)
Is this a sly referral to Desiree Cousteau?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 11:58 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:42 PM (t0Rmr)
An unintended intended consequence. No secrets from Daddy Government Insurance.
This is partly due to the conglomeration of health care providers and partly due to mass immigration and the expansion of the hive cities.
Most definitley 'yes' to the first part. But a big reason for that broadening chasm between doctors and patients is all due to 404Care.
Our insurance was working, if somewhat wobbly. Now health care is for the very rich (they have the money for treatment) or the very poor (Medicaid and other gov't programs). But those in the middle, supposedly helped by 404Care? Premiums, deductables and health care costs all went up while providers have more forms (red tape) to fill out (and why my doctors look at a computer screen more than me). Dems are still proud of that trainwreck forced down America's throat in a midnight vote after no one read the 2,700 page bill. But the intentions were 'good'. 404Care is more virtue-signalling bullshit from the Dems, consequences be damned.
Posted by: RickZ at June 20, 2025 11:58 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Frank at June 20, 2025 11:58 PM (XeU6L)
Hey, that's me!
G'nite, y'all. 💤
Posted by: mindful webworker - fruit of the month at June 20, 2025 11:59 PM (63lGh)
Red delicious
Golden delicious
McIntosh
Not ever my favorites. Mealy & flavorless, all. (And wormy, because we didn't spray.)
A real PITA, because fruit would drop throughout summer, requiring raking-up before every mowing.
¡Afuera! ...and good riddance to them.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:01 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JUNE20TH at June 21, 2025 12:01 AM (R6Hhu)
Posted by: JQ
Not sure, but can't you graft other varieties on the trees?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2025 12:02 AM (mlg/3)
Posted by: mikeski
And not just apples. Every "Hass" avocado is from the same original tree, grafted over and over into a billion-dollar business.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 12:04 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2025 11:49 PM (hY4dx)
6 month period? Then add Carrot Top to the list.
Elliot Gould was in a lot of movies, yes, but not the career longevity. Dern played cops, bad guys, cowboys in a lot a really good movies. But Dern was never the star. They tried to make Gould into a star.
Read an interview with John Wayne once talking about 'The Cowboys', the 1972 film. He told Dern during shooting his career was over as he killed John Wayne in the movie. And yet Dern survived.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 12:04 AM (gKDq2)
Can't see night working ending until August.
On problem is no one else wants to do it.
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 12:04 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: 18-1
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Agreed 100%
As a general observation, this generation of physicians either hear but don't listen, or, listen but don't hear. There is also a strong inclination to latch on the the first diagnosis which is within their experience.
I believe that this is a consequence of the change in the healthcare system, as opposed to individual shortcomings.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 12:05 AM (XeU6L)
236 Also, McIntosh apples are the worst. They must've been cheap because it's all my mom would buy us. I hate them to this day.
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 11:51 PM
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They are my favorite. Maybe she just liked them.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 21, 2025 12:06 AM (t1fZA)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Oh, probably. These trees were old, though. Couple of them (both the 'delicious' ones) were infested with some kind of borer and their trunks/branches were rotting.
If I wanted "good" apples, I'd just plant ONE new tree. Plenty of others around here for pollination.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:06 AM (rdVOm)
So rather than a nice ellipse, the earth's center sort of bobs up and down a smidge. This makes the sun appear to be a little above or below the ecliptic. This time, the solstice happened just at the instant (with 6 hour window) where the earth's center was dead on that plane.
Posted by: publius
Just curious, i have no opinion with which to defend...
Are you using Earth Centric Inertial coordinates, or Sol centric (fixed or inertial) coordinates?
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 21, 2025 12:06 AM (MsrgL)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 10:58 PM (+qU29)
there are thousands. I give you the site of sites for apples:
pomiferous.com
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 12:06 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
You can. They even sell multiple-variety apple trees.
Which means you can get by with only one tree. Apple trees don't self-pollinate, but a chimerical tree like that can pollinate between the different varieties.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 12:06 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: The Goggles, They Do Nothing at June 21, 2025 12:07 AM (XAXi6)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 11:43 PM (Splbu)
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I say yea. I took it, with no noticeable ill effects. The people I knew who had shingles, and the misery they went through, was a convincing argument for me.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 20, 2025 11:56 PM (uQHUD)
Same here. On both counts.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 12:07 AM (gKDq2)
One of my first jobs as a kid was clearing brush and pruning at a large local Orchard. I never ever wore a shirt that was yellow, orange or red. The quiz question is WHY?
(the timer is active)
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 12:08 AM (dIske)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2025 12:09 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 12:09 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 11:56 PM (DgGvY)
So, Johnny Appleseed, Honorary Moron?
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 12:10 AM (gKDq2)
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To prevent getting pollinated?
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)
_______________________________
More specific
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 12:12 AM (dIske)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:12 AM (rdVOm)
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You weren't assigned to flight deck operations?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 12:13 AM (hY4dx)
I have made pectin out of green apples, and it does work, though not as well as the Sure-Jel I can buy in boxes at the store.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 12:13 AM (D7oie)
This is all happening so very fast. Amazing. Scary.
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 21, 2025 12:13 AM (t9lPv)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:12 AM (rdVOm)
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Correct!!!! You wear those colors they get curious. And you're going to get stung.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 12:13 AM (dIske)
Posted by: clarence at June 21, 2025 12:14 AM (QHFMR)
Posted by: Orson
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Full disclosure (cheat?):
I have a neighbor what keeps beehives. LOL
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:15 AM (rdVOm)
Wasps that have stung me thought they were getting stepped on. Not like I did it on purpose.
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 21, 2025 12:16 AM (t9lPv)
Posted by: clarence at June 21, 2025 12:14 AM (QHFMR)
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Most large orchards also keep bees. Believe it or not, those nasty bastards are very territorial. And, they are drawn to bright colors that mimic fruit blossoms. So if you ever drive by guys working in an orchard, they are going to be wearing dark greens, blues and blacks.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 12:17 AM (dIske)
Sand plums!
We have a couple of acres of sand plums at our farm. My brother makes jelly.
It is a delicious combination of tart and sweet.
Plus jelly lasts all year (if my kids don't eat it all in the first two months)!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 21, 2025 12:19 AM (HlyYF)
I believe that this is a consequence of the change in the healthcare system, as opposed to individual shortcomings.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 12:05 AM (XeU6L)
Another, I agree with the first part, in spades. It's like doctors now have a script to follow.
As to the second part, it may have something to do with the actual education of doctors. More and more micro-specialties. The days of the old GP are really over, looking at the patient's big health picture. Now it's a Primary Care doctor (usually an internist) who is a portal to specialists, versus when I was a kid and just making an appointment to see one.
That's why I used the term 'red tape'. For us plebes, along with the increase costs, that's been the other major result of 404Care. When government steps in, red tape is sure to follow.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 12:19 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 12:19 AM (EVFZ5)
Which is why he is revered to this day!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:21 AM (qgNn3)
Please not use dust form of insecticides, like "Sevin", as the bees tend to carry it back to his hives & can wipe them out. Liquid sprays are OK.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:22 AM (rdVOm)
All the money in the world is not going to improve care and surviving illness when half or more of the money is going to the investors, not to treating patients and paying doctors.
We have good health care, but it is being stolen just like tax revenue in a third world economy
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 12:22 AM (D7oie)
Celestial coordinate systems get quite involved -- and there are many such systems, and I only enough of the details to be dangerous.
For purposes here, we use geocentric equatorial coordinates, which is basically a spherical coordinate system with origin at the earth's center. In the equatorial plane, the x-axis points at the vernal equinox of date. I say date, because precession of the earth's axis means the equinox is moving clockwise. So it's not really inertial, just very close to it.
The equinox moves about 50 arc seconds per year, and this is the reason the tropical year is a bit shorter than the sidereal year. The two angular coordinates in this system are dubbed right ascension and declination. Declination is the angle from the equatorial plane, latitude, and not the colatitude, "theta" in standard spherical coordinates.
Now, as the earth is moving up and down relative to the "mean ecliptic of date", that coordinate system bobs up and down with it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 12:23 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 12:24 AM (hY4dx)
Good evening, all!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 21, 2025 12:26 AM (CmrHb)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Played a bad guy, but a sort of querulous bad guy. Sort of the
slightly comical sidekick of the bad guys.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 12:26 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:26 AM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 12:26 AM (+qU29)
I'm uncoordinated.
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 21, 2025 12:26 AM (t9lPv)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
Cool! Thank you! I've been forced to do some limited analysis (epoch anchored) on overhead asset coverage for kill chain engagement support and was curious what you've used.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 21, 2025 12:27 AM (MsrgL)
Now, for high precision work, such as JPL's ephemeris, another coordinate system is used. This is dubbed solar system barycentric coordinates. The origin is the solar system barycenter, the center of mass of the whole damned solar system. "Up", "north", or the z-axis is parallel to the total solar system angular momentum vector, L. Being conserved, this does not change (except due to vanishingly small exchanges with the galactic system).
The perpendicular plane to this is dubbed the "invariable plane" (because to high order, it doesn't vary). We still need to define the x-axis direction, and some very distant quasars are used to observationally fix this direction to high precision. This doesn't move, and this is very, very close to inertial in the context of General Relativity, in as much as the galactic tidal field can be ignored. Which it can be. The entire solar system is very, very close to free fall in a near uniform galactic field to the scale of the solar system.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 12:29 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 12:33 AM (EVFZ5)
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The entire solar system is very, very close to free fall in a near uniform galactic field to the scale of the solar system.
Dude....... wish i could bring you on board for some of the shiz i do.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 21, 2025 12:33 AM (MsrgL)
There are many, many other coordinate systems used. Ecliptic coordinates are one. Heliocentric coordinates are another. Here, the center of the sun would be the origin, the z-axis would be the sun's axis of rotation, and the x-axis would again be the equinox (from the Sun's perspective).
The equinox moving is another vexing thing. So, fixed, epoch coordinates are used sometime. Current standard epoch (t = 0) is dubbed J2000. So, we can have equatorial, ecliptic, etc, defined at a particular equinox and a particular axial tilt at t = 0.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 12:33 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: BifBewalski
Authentic Western Gibberish!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:33 AM (qgNn3)
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 21, 2025 12:34 AM (t9lPv)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:35 AM (qgNn3)
https://mol.im/a/14832929
Trying to put a train between himself and pursuers and ......
Posted by: Ciampino - works in the movies at June 21, 2025 12:36 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:36 AM (qgNn3)
slightly comical sidekick of the bad guys.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 12:26 AM (XeU6L)
_____________________________
I saw an interview with Dern. It might have been back when Charlie Rose was still active. Dern said that he was getting hate mail from people over 35 years after doing "The Cowboys" because he shot and killed John Wayne's character. He said that Wayne pulled him over before they started shooting and told him to treat the Duke like dirt so that the kids in the movie were scared of him. It was a great interview.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 12:37 AM (dIske)
***********'
News Flash: This has been the case since Asclepius first wrapped a snake around a staff. Real people in the real world care more about symptomatic relief. Causes are often either immutable or self-limited. We just want to feel better in the moment.
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 12:38 AM (poXs5)
The Polhode Rolls without Slipping on the Herpolhode Lying in the Invariable Plane
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:38 AM (qgNn3)
Cosmo Kramer: 'Here's to feeling good all the time.'
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 21, 2025 12:39 AM (t9lPv)
Using Grok while coding kicks ass. Major productivity improvement. Forget right now about old websearch, where you need to read through five or more stackexchange page results to maybe find the exact answer you need. Anything you need, anything you want, always ask Grok first. In fact, at the very beginning of ANY creative project, ask Grok to do the damn whole thing. It may very well do it for you.
This is all happening so very fast. Amazing. Scary.
Posted by: sudo touch
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And those sites are dying because of it. They say Stack Overflow is dead, although it does still exist. Maybe life support.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 21, 2025 12:39 AM (CmrHb)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:39 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:40 AM (qgNn3)
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 12:41 AM (poXs5)
I feel like I've arrived very late for this party. I'm glad I'm finally catching up.
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 21, 2025 12:42 AM (t9lPv)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:43 AM (VofaG)
Jupiter contains the majority, ~60% of the angular momentum of the solar system, so it's orbital plane is very close, to within 0.5 degree.
The ecliptic is currently inclined ~1.6 degrees to the invariable plane, and this varies in a long term (~100,000 year) cycle (is part of the Milankovich cycle dance of everything) from about 0.5 to 2.5 degrees.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 12:44 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:44 AM (qgNn3)
301 Ah, I bothered to look it up:
The Polhode Rolls without Slipping on the Herpolhode Lying in the Invariable Plane
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:38 AM (qgNn3)
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Strong words, dude.
Posted by: Tanner at June 21, 2025 12:44 AM (biznJ)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:45 AM (VofaG)
I remember enough of Poinsot's constructions to make my head really hurt. General solid body rotation is, well, there's a lot of math involved...
See "Poinsot ellipsoid" if interested.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 12:46 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 12:46 AM (EVFZ5)
Wow! Ya hear that?
It's allllll that stuff, what JQ don't know nuthin' about, whooshing over her head.
Damn. You guys are edjumakated n stuff...
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:47 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 12:48 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 12:48 AM (poXs5)
Missing Audi, Fiat, Saab, Renault, Citroen, Volvo .....
Posted by: Ciampino - Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Maserati at June 21, 2025 12:51 AM (sPQoU)
Discuss..
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 12:48 AM (poXs5)
Two are better than one. Except for snakes.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 12:54 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: EdmundburkesShade at June 21, 2025 12:57 AM (WvGHv)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 12:59 AM (qgNn3)
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 21, 2025 01:02 AM (t9lPv)
Honeycrisp, Gala, Pink Lady etc.
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 01:02 AM (poXs5)
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 21, 2025 01:03 AM (t9lPv)
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 01:05 AM (poXs5)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 01:06 AM (qgNn3)
Posted by: muldoon at June 21, 2025 01:07 AM (poXs5)
He never made clear if the goat part was related to the getting hit by lighting or part of an ongoing relationship. I still wonder about that.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 01:10 AM (NXz8h)
Also missing are Leyland, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Bugatti, Ferrari, Delorean, ...
Posted by: Ciampino - Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Maserati at June 21, 2025 01:11 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 01:11 AM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 01:13 AM (NXz8h)
My Grandad made a lot of apple butter every fall and I remember eating gobs of it in his kitchen on his sourdough bread and thinking "This is really good!"
Don't see much apple butter around these days.
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 01:14 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:15 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Ciampino
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Rolls
The Silver Lady
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 01:18 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at June 21, 2025 01:18 AM (gSTJh)
Posted by: pawn
My friend makes it every year. It's wonderful! As good as my grandma's.
I need to be there next time she makes a batch & learn from her. Takes a long time to cook down, iirc.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:18 AM (rdVOm)
And to get to 0.001 arcsecond accuracy, you've got to be relativistic. Now, the Einstein Field Equations of General Relativity, which describe gravity, is 10 coupled non-linear partial differential equations. They are intractable in all but a few very symmetric setups and have to be solved numerically. For solar system work an approximation, called the Parameterized Post-Newtonian Formalism is used. Here you express things in series expansions and ignore the high order terms beyond what is needed for the desired accuracy.
The result. DE440 involved integrating a set of 1152 ordinary differential equations in 1152 variables. One complete run for that requires about 2 weeks on the fastest modern cluster using a few hundred to a thousand CPUs cranking.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 01:19 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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"Damn! He was a wild one, old Hatchet Jack. He was livin' two year in a cave up on the Musselshell with a female panther. She never did get used to him." - Del Gue
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 01:21 AM (XeU6L)
Of course those Asian pears are better than any apple or pear, but they are expensive.
At Target a woman was fucking around with egg cartons, to get twelve unbroken ones I would think. But watching people go on, I think they are trying to mix and match twelve big ones. I gave her a dirty look* but this shit is out of control ... I see it every time I go, and the people doing it don't otherwise look trashy.
*I would have enjoyed saying "I need 18 eggs, so I am just going to buy 24. If any are broken, I'm going to assume a low-class grasping beggar just like you put them there." But grocery shopping is my quiet time and really I'm not in the headspace for volcanic word battle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2025 01:21 AM (lhenN)
https://is.gd/YKuGk4
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 01:21 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Ciampino - do the cops know her location? at June 21, 2025 01:23 AM (sPQoU)
Bentley is missing too.
Posted by: Ciampino - so many car makers at June 21, 2025 01:27 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: BifBewalski
STK. Someone else paid for it.
Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at June 21, 2025 01:27 AM (gSTJh)
I killed another thread..
Later y'all. Endeavor to persevere..
Posted by: muldoon
* grabs paddles*
cLEAR!
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 01:27 AM (F31MH)
341
Vance Boelter's wife in hiding as police say she didn't know his plan
https://mol.im/a/14824707
Posted by: Ciampino - do the cops know her location? at June 21, 2025 01:23 AM
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She sure acted like she did know his plan.
Posted by: Tanner at June 21, 2025 01:28 AM (cQWrP)
If I find a broken one, I'll leave the carton open on top of the stack. Go to the next one & check... I don't switch eggs unless there's a cracked one in a subsequent carton.
Maybe I'm being too picky, but my understanding of "sale price" is that it is for unbroken product.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:29 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 01:29 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 21, 2025 01:30 AM (SRRAx)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2025 01:31 AM (lhenN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 01:31 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:31 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Skip
I've made a career out of working those kind of shifts.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 01:32 AM (ohOaC)
I occasionally come across a broken or cracked egg. When that happens I line the girls up, chew them out good and threaten to cut their rations on Tuesdays.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 01:33 AM (F31MH)
If I'm just eating an apple, I'd probably choose something else. But why would I be eating an apple? What kind of sicko do you take me for?
Apples should be drunk. As hard cider. Like Jesus and the Founding Fathers intended.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 21, 2025 01:33 AM (9FEtL)
Posted by: BourbonChicken
LOL, thanks for the chuckle!
Please don't think less of me, for wanting to get my money's worth...
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:33 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Ciampino - LOL at June 21, 2025 01:33 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Nerd Herd at June 21, 2025 01:35 AM (6nQni)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
Nah. I just like to hirt people occasionally. Probably a symptom of infrequent contact with stable adults.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 01:35 AM (F31MH)
Nice that you are willing/able to do so!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:36 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Ciampino - a doctor even at June 21, 2025 01:37 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 01:37 AM (NXz8h)
https://is.gd/YKuGk4
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
His advisors live in a bubble if they thought this was a good idea. Or. They hate him.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 01:38 AM (ohOaC)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
My brain hurts
Posted by: Miklos Szilard Teller von Neumann at June 21, 2025 01:39 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Ciampino - a donor even at June 21, 2025 01:40 AM (sPQoU)
Discuss.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
I will go first. I think they are saying Uranus is a blackhole.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 01:40 AM (NXz8h)
Gay men in Africa blame Trump for HIV diagnoses after cuts to funding
https://mol.im/a/14831883
Posted by: Ciampino
Gays blamed Reagan in the 80s when AIDS came on the seen. No way was it there dangerous, irresponsible sex practices.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 01:40 AM (ohOaC)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2025 01:42 AM (lhenN)
Nice that you are willing/able to do so!
Posted by: JQ
It gives me someone to talk to besides the dogs snd the goats. I eat about 2 dozen a week. The rest are part of my egg ministry.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 01:42 AM (F31MH)
Posted by: the People of Guam at June 21, 2025 01:43 AM (UYy+W)
Don't see much apple butter around these days.
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 01:14 AM (QB+5g)
Talk about a rabbit hole.
When I read that (and I love apple butter), I thought it's one of those recipes where the spices are so important. Probably has allspice. I use allspice in a lot of dishes, chilis, burrito meat mix, spice coating blends, a lot of things. Then I thought about my spice grinder and the allspice berries in the pantry as I grind my own spices now. But the lid cracked and I taped it. It stills works but not that well. It takes manipulation now. So I thought, I'm on the internet, let me look at spice grinders. Wayfair had my Krups coffee grinder (in black, opposite my white coffee grinder (the color difference being muy importante) on sale, from like $50 to $24, plus shipping. So I ordered one.
Rabbit hole: Successfully dug.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 01:44 AM (gKDq2)
Don't see much apple butter around these days.
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 21, 2025 01:14 AM (QB+5g)
Talk about a rabbit hole.
When I read that (and I love apple butter), I thought it's one of those recipes where the spices are so important. Probably has allspice. I use allspice in a lot of dishes, chilis, burrito meat mix, spice coating blends, a lot of things. Then I thought about my spice grinder and the allspice berries in the pantry as I grind my own spices now. But the lid cracked and I taped it. It stills works but not that well. It takes manipulation now. So I thought, I'm on the internet, let me look at spice grinders. Wayfair had my Krups coffee grinder (in black, opposite my white coffee grinder (the color difference being muy importante) on sale, from like $50 to $24, plus shipping. So I ordered one.
Rabbit hole: Successfully dug.
Posted by: RickZ
I'm heading up to Amish Country in July (Western PA). I can find Apple Butter up there pretty easily.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 01:46 AM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 01:27 AM (F31MH)
That's okay. I already have Implantable Cardioverter Defibrillator (ICD) in my chest.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 01:48 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 01:50 AM (F31MH)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:29 AM (rdVOm)
I was scolded not to do that at my local grocery, so I don't anymore. I will check each egg in a carton for cracks, putting that carton back if I find a cracked or stuck egg and checking another one, ad infinitum. If I go through the cartons and I need help at that point relocating one egg, I'll ask for assistance.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 01:53 AM (gKDq2)
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
https://youtu.be/mbKCv_7A7Qk
Mr. Petty crushes the solo. The band is on fire.
One of the greats. RIP.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 01:57 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Ciampino - a doctor even at June 21, 2025 01:37 AM (sPQoU)
Hello, Mudduh!
Hello, Fadduh!
Here I am at
Intifada!
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 01:58 AM (gKDq2)
RickZ, I understand 'why' on that. Because of the "best by" dates, probably. Don't want to mix those.
So far, I've not been called out. It's not often that I switch any.
Guess I'll just go carton to carton, without switching, from now on.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:59 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 01:40 AM (ohOaC)
Add injection drug users. Another dangerous bad behavior.
I'm still trying to figure out how anybody in Africa is still alive after the insanely high percentage of people with Aids. I was told 65 to 70 percent when I took my Somali safari.
Posted by: Reforger at June 21, 2025 02:02 AM (LgDgc)
So far, I've not been called out. It's not often that I switch any.
Guess I'll just go carton to carton, without switching, from now on.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:59 AM (rdVOm)
I think people will switch egg sizes, putting jumbo eggs in a medium carton, especially when egg prices went through the roof. People are why we can't have nice things.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 02:03 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 02:03 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 02:03 AM (NXz8h)
Maybe they weren't happy with having a campfire in aisle 6.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 02:07 AM (gKDq2)
That explains why I bought those tickets to WDC from LAX........
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 21, 2025 02:07 AM (QGaXH)
Posted by: RickZ
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Oh. Yeah, people suck.
I'd not thought of switching the sizes. Just not a thief at heart, I suppose.
My fave grocery had a *special* on jumbo eggs, in the middle of the chickenflu scare-- $3/dozen. OH, YEAH! I bought a couple dozen & nearly 75% were double-yolkers. Yay!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 02:07 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Reforger
I did a similar 'safari' in Ethiopia. Heard the same stats. The local women, some were gorgeous, but a condom wouldn't work. A HAZMAT suit would be more appropriate.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 02:08 AM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 02:10 AM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 02:13 AM (LPL2Y)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 02:16 AM (tJHAE)
https://mol.im/a/14831711
"She was eight when her family came to the US to apply for asylum, but when the asylum request was denied, the US couldn't deport them because they had no citizenship. "
Which country/countries did they travel through to get to the USA? Asylum request should have been at one of those countries. Rules.
Posted by: Ciampino - illegally crossed the border? at June 21, 2025 02:16 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 02:07 AM (rdVOm)
I would love to know the number of 'social science' careers made by people not ever able to understand/denying the reality of 'the thief at heart' concept of humanity. Some people are bad people, and not because of anything done to them. They just like to watch the world burn, so to speak. That's why some people jus' need killin'.
I guess I don't have the thief/criminal gene. If I receive back too much change, I return the overage. To me, keeping it is the same as stealing. Now when I found that $5 bill just lying there all lonely on the sidewalk and nobody else within 20 feet, well, I had to give it a home. It was the charitable thing to do.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 02:18 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 02:08 AM (ohOaC)
I just kept my distance. The smell... We had one guy go on R&R to Mombaso, Kenya. Came back with a case of crabs from hell and probably Aids. They caught him because he tried shaving them off and they found the hair and bugs in the water reclamation system. They did a skivy check on only the black guys.
Posted by: Reforger at June 21, 2025 02:18 AM (LgDgc)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 02:19 AM (F31MH)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 02:23 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 02:23 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 02:25 AM (LPL2Y)
I'm having Grok go through the relativistic time(clock) transforms involved in the DE440 shit. THis is ... not trivial.
I can see why Einstein's hair looked like it did. And why Godel was bat shit crazy.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 02:26 AM (w6EFb)
Gosh. What a very, very difficult time, prayers for your brother, you and your family.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 02:28 AM (tJHAE)
called me on the 2nd.
Sounds like a rough three weeks to me.
With a DNR, I'm guessing your brother has . . . already made his decision.
Unfortunately for you, I'd prepare for the next step.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 02:29 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Ciampino - positronic robots will be here at June 21, 2025 02:30 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 02:33 AM (F31MH)
https://tinyurl.com/38me2tuj
What can go wrong?
Posted by: Ciampino - horny flies at June 21, 2025 02:34 AM (sPQoU)
https://tinyurl.com/34avn8p5
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 02:35 AM (tJHAE)
Unfortunately for you, I'd prepare for the next step.
Posted by: RickZ
His mind is made up. We have a meeting with hospice on Monday and the plan is to move him in with my wife and I. I don't think he's going to make it.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 02:36 AM (F31MH)
Yes; That was a fine thing to do// to raise the grandsons .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 02:37 AM (tJHAE)
Prayers sent.
My hash prolly changed there. Phone went dead and I'm to lazy to find the lost cord out here in the shop.
Posted by: Reforger at June 21, 2025 02:37 AM (xcIvR)
Posted by: Ciampino - comfused? at June 21, 2025 02:38 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 21, 2025 02:38 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: Ciampino - comfused much? at June 21, 2025 02:39 AM (sPQoU)
3 FOR $2
OR $89 EACH
Posted by: Ciampino - comfused? at June 21, 2025 02:38 AM (sPQoU)
I see a market opportunity.
Pun intended.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 02:40 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
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It was the Incompletenss Theorems that did it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 02:46 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 02:49 AM (NXz8h)
Dammit
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 02:50 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 02:52 AM (w6EFb)
I didn't even see the typo.
Posted by: publius
I am convinced they occur after you hit post or publish.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 02:54 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 02:54 AM (F31MH)
I didn't even see the typo.
Posted by: publius
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My posts cannot be both consistent, and complete.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 02:56 AM (XeU6L)
But don’t existing laws require hospitals to provide healthcare without making patients actually pay for that care?
As an issue related to mandates for hospitals, by what laws are doctors compelled to render service for uncompensated medicine?
Posted by: Goatweed at June 21, 2025 02:57 AM (cl9qq)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 02:58 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2025 03:01 AM (OJL75)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Spokane hotels have certain sketch aura.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 03:03 AM (NXz8h)
Mike, that's interesting. I've got a Grok account, it's free, and there are limitations. If you want to get one, you can see if would try to come up with a full Suduko solver.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 03:08 AM (w6EFb)
I'm estranged from older brother, who lives about 1/4 mile away. (the "I hate you, I'm gonna killl you" one)
Sis is a hopeless libtard, but we're on speaking terms. Mostly. Can't discuss politics, of course.
Younger bro is my friend, but has plenty of personal issues that interfere with everything...
Ugh.
Sorry your sister was being so stuck-up.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 03:09 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Hopefully not Al's Motel.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 03:10 AM (F31MH)
lol, these goblins are so dumb...
Our Favorite Vice President today intentionally called "senator" alex padilla "Jose."
And NONE of these dumbfucks remember Jose Padilla, long time resident of Gitmo. So all the goblins made videos today about how Vance is "racist" and calls all Mexicans"jose."
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2025 03:11 AM (uKaf4)
Expo 74 really brought in some trash. And they never left.
So glad we escaped!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 03:12 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 21, 2025 03:15 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at June 21, 2025 03:16 AM (YkdQj)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 03:17 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ
Honestly, I feel for her. She struggles to deal with life. The animosity comes from the fact I had to sue her for guardianship of my father to get control of his finances. She has two college degrees but hadn't worked for 16 years. She's been a public defender for the last 6 years. Longest she's ever held a job. My younger brother occasionally benefited from her generosity with my father's money, but basically she poisoned him against my wife and I. Most of our lives I was the one she called when she needed help or was struggling. She struggled alot.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 03:23 AM (F31MH)
Hoping it's drier in the morning!
Good night, horde. Keep on keepin' on!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 03:23 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 11:25 PM (0Htd1)
Grandma canned those in small jars. They were a beautiful dark green color - like dark green colored pine needles - but tasted like cloves on steroids.
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 03:25 AM (k+iGm)
Oh, jeez, Sock Monkey! Isn't that just the way *they* roll?
Unable to manage their own lives, but first in line to insist upon managing others. Bleh. (oh, and especially if there's somebody else's money involved!)
Somewhere between "poor me" and "I'm the boss" right?
Ugh.
My condolences, Sock.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 03:28 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Ciampino - Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Maserati at June 21, 2025 12:51 AM (sPQoU)
And Studebaker, and Packard, and Willys, and Crosley, and Hudson, to name but a few.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2025 03:29 AM (OJL75)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 03:35 AM (F31MH)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 21, 2025 03:23 AM (F31MH)
Sorry to hear about your family travails and your brother's impending death. Tough row to hoe, for sure.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2025 03:42 AM (OJL75)
Night, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2025 03:45 AM (OJL75)
Posted by: Nazdar at June 21, 2025 04:02 AM (NcvvS)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 04:17 AM (4IClK)
Posted by: Nazdar at June 21, 2025 04:35 AM (NcvvS)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 12:22 AM (D7oie)
I wouldn’t know, having no health for which to care.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 06:04 AM (4IClK)
Posted by: Advo at June 21, 2025 01:55 PM (jO4mz)
Junetweenth Cafe
Dude climbs bridges and snaps photos
Three more bridge shots here
A pair of teddy-bear-dog puppies. The king of the jungle. Dog enjoys the carousel at a playground. The Duel. Saving a dog trapped in a flood. The cat actually does something nice for the dogs. These little bears may be cute, but they are already out-of-control. Feeding a... trunk. Please sir, can I have some more? A classic: Nosy neighbors.
Dog 1 - Human 0.. 😂 pic.twitter.com/e6d2tslmL3
— Buitengebieden (@buitengebieden) June 19, 2025
Sometimes all you need is a little hug..🐘😅 pic.twitter.com/Qitmd3HFSq
— 𝕐o̴g̴ (@Yoda4ever) June 17, 2025
His daughter was crying, and he stepped into the performance to comfort her.. 🥹 pic.twitter.com/rDyxpWM8yB
— Buitengebieden (@buitengebieden) June 19, 2025
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 07:30 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 07:32 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:32 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 07:32 PM (0sNs1)
Is it weird that I would have a negative opinion of a mom doing that?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 07:34 PM (h7ZuX)
It's also privately owned, so that's trespassing, you hoser!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:35 PM (ZOv7s)
267 Hey, y’all
I’ve been a Moronette for over 20 years. Some of you know me from LGF as well.
For those who know my story, you’ll celebrate with me that my son officially changed his last name to my family name.
Posted by: Goddessoftheclassroom at June 20, 2025 07:33 PM (USyCi)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:35 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:36 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 07:36 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:37 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 20, 2025 07:37 PM (5cl3b)
Is it weird that I would have a negative opinion of a mom doing that?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 07:34 PM (h7ZuX)
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He's not doing his little girl any favors. Comfort her yes, then send her back out there.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:38 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 07:38 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 07:39 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:38 PM (RIvkX)
I'm sure you're right. Still hit me in the feels.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 07:39 PM (h7ZuX)
She's never going to learn resilience or independence that way. He should have screamed at her and spanked her until she went out there and danced with the rest of the kids.
Posted by: Give her something to cry about! at June 20, 2025 07:39 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:40 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 20, 2025 07:37 PM (5cl3b)
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Go backstage and comfort her if she's totally unstrung. Seems like she was the youngest out there, so maybe wasn't ready for it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:40 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: Give her something to cry about! at June 20, 2025 07:39 PM (TbWk/)
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Plus, she used a wire hanger. NO WIRE HANGERS!!!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (CNl8/)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (CNl8/)
His neighbor's dog tell him this?
Posted by: That demon dog gets around at June 20, 2025 07:42 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:42 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 07:43 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (+qU29)
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Sweater puppies > teddy bear puppies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:43 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (CNl8/)
So he tried to kill the two who voted with the GOP instead?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:43 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:44 PM (ZIggv)
One cool man and a great father.
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 07:44 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 07:44 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:42 PM (RIvkX)
Did you get a lecture from him about how embarrassing that was, how ashamed and disappointed he was, followed by him walking off in disgust?
Posted by: I mean, that's what any good parent would do at June 20, 2025 07:45 PM (TbWk/)
The calico female cat that I rescued from a roadside rest stop in the mid-'90s knew who had been her "savior" for the remainder of her life, which was another ten years. The night before we had to put her down I slept on the floor of the cats' room and she slept right beside my head that entire evening.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 07:45 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:44 PM (ZIggv)
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Of course dear. You big softie.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:45 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 07:46 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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"O Captain, My Captain", please return me my ship.
Right?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:46 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: I mean, that's what any good parent would do at June 20, 2025 07:45 PM (TbWk/)
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Mom, is that you?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:47 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:43 PM (8avO+)
It may be possible that somebody who already isn't right in the head might on occasion make bad decisions.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:47 PM (gKWVE)
We're run aground and stuck!
It's no use my Captain,
Because you're dead as fuck!
Posted by: Whitman Sampler at June 20, 2025 07:48 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:49 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:50 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:49 PM (gKWVE)
Mumbling to Stardom : the Springsteen story
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:50 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:49 PM (gKWVE)
It should be called "Blue Collar Bullshit: The Fake Working Man Life of Bruce Springsteen"
Posted by: Fake as Mellencamp. Maybe faker. at June 20, 2025 07:51 PM (TbWk/)
Barack and Michelle Obama may have one of the most famous political marriages of the modern era, thriving through two terms of the White House and over 30 years together. The pair met in 1989 at a Chicago law firm, and it was love at first sight—for Barack. Michelle, then known as Michelle Robinson, took a little convincing to go on that first date, but she had no hesitation when he asked her to marry him in 1992.
In the last eight years since Barack Obama ended his two terms as President of the United States, both he and Michelle have remained politically engaged, traveled the world, released books, produced films and podcasts, and stayed on as cultural influencers in almost every corner of the U.S. and many abroad. And they’re still going strong, celebrating their long love story every year it grows.
Elle magazine, June 2, 2025
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:51 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: I mean, that's what any good parent would do at June 20, 2025 07:45 PM (TbWk/)
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One of my daughters was doing an elementary school music concert and got the giggles, and they spread, and pretty soon the music teacher was PISSED, but I felt no need to swoop in and save the day.
My daughter learned what it was to screw up in front of the school and that made her more confident down the stretch.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:53 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:51 PM (K9XnW)
That sounds more like an order than an article.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:53 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:49 PM (gKWVE)
I am generally not a fan of biopics. But rilly? Sounds absolutely awful.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 07:54 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:50 PM (8avO+)
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CORRECTION: Tone-deaf Mumbling to Stardom.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:54 PM (ZOv7s)
And they’re still going strong, celebrating their long love story every year it grows.
Elle magazine, June 2, 2025
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Methinks this will age poorly.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 07:55 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 07:55 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:55 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:50 PM (8avO+)
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CORRECTION: Tone-deaf Mumbling to Stardom.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:54 PM (ZOv7s)
He was popular in my time. Not sure he's translated to this generation, who goes to these movies.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:56 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:56 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (CNl8/)
Well. This explains part of the reason this story died like a fart in a hurricane.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:55 PM (gKWVE)
Thought he was New Jersey's patron saint.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:57 PM (8avO+)
He can throw that speedball by you
Making love like a pool boy!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 07:57 PM (0aYVJ)
I'd like to see Big Mike give Barry the Mme. Macron treatment in public. She'd knock that prissy little ponce into next week.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 07:57 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 07:55 PM (QnmlO)
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Epic loves stories frequently feature people vacationing separately.
Though, there's also the "Titanic" version where the bitch watches the guy die of exposure because she wants the door for herself.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:58 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 20, 2025 07:58 PM (gm9Sb)
-listen to toads croak
-take notes on trains
-take notes on trains while high on heroin
-fly to Scotland to take notes on trains
-fly to Scotland to get away from Bruce Springsteen
-listen to an album that's actually good (i.e. not by Springsteen)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:59 PM (gKWVE)
Well. This explains part of the reason this story died like a fart in a hurricane.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)
__________
He appears to be a nutcase. But the Democrats were praying he'd be the Great White Killer they've longed for.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 07:59 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:59 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:59 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 07:59 PM (5xNsa)
I'm the last person on earth to take parenting advice from but I think there's a bit of a difference between a case of the giggles and a toddler in obvious distress.
Good for dad. She can grow up when she's 6.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:00 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:56 PM (ZIggv)
Yeah the big tests so far came back negative just waiting on one more here and then hopefully we're done. Won't have all the answers tonight but for big stuff I think she's in the clear. Would like her out and eating in a couple hours.
Hope you are well sweetheart. 🙃
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 08:00 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)
__________
He appears to be a nutcase. But the Democrats were praying he'd be the Great White Killer they've longed for.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 07:59 PM (QnmlO)
A nutcase Walz hired for a job in government.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:00 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:59 PM (gKWVE)
Really, all those options sound great to me. You married?
j/k, I am
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 08:01 PM (h7ZuX)
Do killing the other folks was just target practice before killing Klonachar? I don't like Tim Waltz either but I think the shooter sounds like nutcase and that he's trying to cover his backside
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:01 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:56 PM (8avO+)
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To be fair, he never reached Michael Bolton levels of cringe, to the extent where my hand reflexively changed the station without any conscious thought when I heard him come on.
Springsteen's big thing was that his dumb lyrics were dumb in a way that made them seem common but deep. Poetry for retards. Guy couldn't hold a note with both hands, though.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:01 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 08:01 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:00 PM (8avO+)
Must give a killer knob shine.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:01 PM (zZu0s)
According to N12 news, The U.S. has delivered a final offer to Iran:
• END uranium enrichment
• SLASH long-range missile programs
• DISMANTLE key nuclear infrastructure
Israel believes rejection = U.S. enters the war.
Turkey, Oman, Italy & Norway offered to host talks. Iran hasn’t responded.
Washington’s warning: Comply or face intervention.
youtube.com/watch?v=cENNxOOdytM
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 08:02 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:02 PM (ZIggv)
I mean, he's obviously nuts but this is definitely not the way they left planned for this to turn out
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:03 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:03 PM (zZu0s)
Good for dad. She can grow up when she's 6.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:00 PM (viF8m)
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Maybe the toddler shouldn't have been on the stage in the first place? I mean, what is the takeaway down the road?
"Hey Dad, remember when you and Mom forced me into dance when I was too young, and then you carried me around the stage like you were a hero?'
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:03 PM (ZOv7s)
Do killing the other folks was just target practice before killing Klonachar? I don't like Tim Waltz either but I think the shooter sounds like nutcase and that he's trying to cover his backside
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:01 PM (2GCMq)
Seems like in that case, saying Waltz ordered him to kill the people he actually shot at rather than some other person entirely would be in order.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:04 PM (8avO+)
Turkey, Oman, Italy & Norway offered to host talks.
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There's never talks in Madagascar, Bolivia or Tonga. It don't seem fair.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 08:04 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:04 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:04 PM (ZIggv)
I mean, he's obviously nuts but this is definitely not the way they left planned for this to turn out
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:03 PM (VpV7B)
zero D chess.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:05 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:03 PM (VpV7B)
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Don't forget the subsequent "break in" at the home of the deceased. Some serious coverups going on here.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:05 PM (ZOv7s)
I to this day cannot figure out the difference between little girls going "EEEEEE this is so fun!" and "EEEEEE its a monster!!!" Any time I hear that little scream I have an instinct to reach for my shining armor
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:05 PM (VpV7B)
Awwh thanks. I think she's ok, doc was being very precautionary but she has not been feeling her best. This is the end of our staycation. 😂
And thank you.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 08:05 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:05 PM
No worries. We're on it!
Posted by: Your F.B.I. at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (0sNs1)
Please give him a scritch foe me.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:04 PM (ZIggv)
_________
He is a good boy. Perforce, Her Majesty's attention is more to the current show dogs and my job is to tell the others they're just as loved.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (QnmlO)
I to this day cannot figure out the difference between little girls going "EEEEEE this is so fun!" and "EEEEEE its a monster!!!" Any time I hear that little scream I have an instinct to reach for my shining armor
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:05 PM (VpV7B)
Lost a lot of tolerance to high frequency stuff over the years. Sadly not ability to hear yet.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (CNl8/)
OTOH, this seems like the kind of *GENIUS* plot Tampon Timmeh would cook up.
OTOH, we're hearing this from the Eff.Bee.EYE, you know, the guys who bravely foiled the plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitler.
Posted by: Helena Hanadbasket at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (ULPxl)
He appears to be a nutcase. But the Democrats were praying he'd be the Great White Killer they've longed for.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 07:59 PM (QnmlO)
A nutcase Walz hired for a job in government.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Republican have named three specific congress critters that are inciting people to violence. Incitement is against the law they should be arrested. A serious society would arrest them.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (K9XnW)
Yeah he had that Maya Angelou touch that made his pedestrian lyrics sound impressive and poetc, like a steel worker with an autistic gift for poetry or something. I doubt he worked a day in his life. Neither has Billy Joel but his "regular street hard workin' man" stuff always resonated better for me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:04 PM (zZu0s)
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Lots of people see the moment and the response and leave it at that. I want to know why the kid was even there. Much younger than everyone else, obviously terrified.
And of course there are all the other dancers who are being completely ignored, which is just swell.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:08 PM (ZOv7s)
I to this day cannot figure out the difference between little girls going "EEEEEE this is so fun!" and "EEEEEE its a monster!!!" Any time I hear that little scream I have an instinct to reach for my shining armor
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:05 PM (VpV7B)
usually only one of them involves buckets of tears...usually.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:08 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Big Mike at June 20, 2025 08:08 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:09 PM (ZIggv)
I love you and I will always have your back. I won't protect you when you do something wrong but I will always be here to pick you up when things get hard.
I was lucky. I had a mom and a dad like that. And I haven't killed anyone that you know of. Yet.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:09 PM (viF8m)
I mean, he's obviously nuts but this is definitely not the way they left planned for this to turn out
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:03 PM (VpV7B)
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What does it mean that I'm not 100% willing to discount this account? After all, we've seen Walz try to operate fire arms himself. He's obviously going to have to hire someone else to do it.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 08:10 PM (dIske)
Not. RC and I never much cared for him anyway. If I were RC I'd probably choose Blessed Marian Theresa who was a Sister of Charity and lived in NJ
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:10 PM (4+GK1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (VpV7B)
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Billy Joel has an actual singing voice. We can just stop there.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:10 PM (ZOv7s)
I love you and I will always have your back. I won't protect you when you do something wrong but I will always be here to pick you up when things get hard.
I was lucky. I had a mom and a dad like that. And I haven't killed anyone that you know of. Yet.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:09 PM (viF8m)
I'm sure they were all bad.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 08:10 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Euro at June 20, 2025 08:10 PM (6En8V)
Posted by: Mark1971
Minnesota Nice, yo!
Yeah, this is probably BS. Still, the X memes will be fun to see.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2025 08:11 PM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Captain Fantasic at June 20, 2025 08:11 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:12 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Captain Fantasic at June 20, 2025 08:13 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: gKWVE
Its for his ever dwindling, older, fan base. It will be declared a success by the media and then disappear.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2025 08:13 PM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 08:14 PM (0sNs1)
I was lucky. I had a mom and a dad like that. And I haven't killed anyone that you know of. Yet.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:09 PM (viF8m)
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So now do all the other kids whose performance was totally overshadowed by the Father of the Year.
"How'd I look?"
"Oh, I was watching that wonderful father."
"I worked for MONTHS and you didn't even see me?!" *sob*
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:14 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:14 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Captain Fantasic at June 20, 2025 08:11 PM (gAN4h)
Hard for the fuzzy T-rex cosplayer to not seem especially threatening to a little kitty. Looming over, jerky fast movements .. all skeery. He pulls it off and must have some hella strong body muscles there. Built like a keg.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:14 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (QnmlO)
Sounds like you could use a skritch and some attention too for the same reason.
Posted by: Sometimes we get forgotten at June 20, 2025 08:14 PM (TbWk/)
The he up and marries the first piece of California model he could find. Didn't last, though.
Posted by: Never Liked Him at June 20, 2025 08:15 PM (G5+As)
==
You distinctly heard me say yet.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:14 PM (viF8m)
You haven't done that yet or you haven't informed us yet?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 08:15 PM (ULPxl)
Covid and Walz was one of them. More power than being in the Senate.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:16 PM (4+GK1)
Posted by: No fakeassery, just storytelling at June 20, 2025 08:16 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 08:10 PM (dIske)
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I can see Walz totally being suckered in by this flim-flam salesman.
"And they'll think I'm MAGA! Can't fail!"
"Uh, okay. Just be sure you're done with the job before the cops get there. Don't be late."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:16 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 08:07 PM (QnmlO)
Sounds like you could use a skritch and some attention too for the same reason.
Posted by: Sometimes we get forgotten at June 20, 2025 08:14 PM (TbWk/)
Come to the TX MoMee - did I mention this will be the *tenth*? - and witness the Bacon Wench in action.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 08:17 PM (ULPxl)
>>"How'd I look?"
Great!
You're 8. Would you like to get some ice cream?
C'mon, let's not make dad who went to help his little girl a monster. The other girls didn't seem to mind.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:17 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Euro at June 20, 2025 08:17 PM (6En8V)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:18 PM (ZIggv)
@LeadingReport
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6m
BREAKING: Minnesota assassin Vance Boelter reportedly told the FBI in a letter that Tim Walz asked him to k-II Senator Amy Klobuchar so that he could take her seat, per Star Trubune.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 08:18 PM (mlg/3)
Covid and Walz was one of them. More power than being in the Senate.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:16 PM (4+GK1)
depends on when his term ends and if he can run for re-election. Signing on with Harris for VP implies the end of the Kingdom was looming close.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:18 PM (8avO+)
Covid and Walz was one of them. More power than being in the Senate.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:16 PM (4+GK1)
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Governors have to govern. Senators don't have to do anything. There's also more money in DC.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:18 PM (ZOv7s)
Wider range of singing talent, too. People can get sick of the guy but he is a genuine talent. I mean, so is Springsteen but he's got pretty narrow limitations. Even guys like Tom Petty who aren't particularly good singers had better range and variety of music.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:18 PM (VpV7B)
Elle magazine, June 2, 2025
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
What a foetid mountain of bullshit that was.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 08:19 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:19 PM (viF8m)
Its pretty obvious that they despise each other.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:21 PM (VpV7B)
The money angle I can see in being in the Senate but Governor Kathy Hochul seems to have made out financially, As I said , I don't like Waltz but I would g trust the word of the MN killer nor do I trust the FBI. Sounds like the Democrat mafia is out to get zeal
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (4+GK1)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 08:17 PM
The Bacon Wench's pre-season training isn't going so well. The pressure is on for a HoF-level performance, being 'X' and all.
Posted by: Coach Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (0sNs1)
Its pretty obvious that they despise each other.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:21 PM (VpV7B)
That can be part of a love story, on that last page.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:17 PM (viF8m)
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I am most definitively not taking a side on this.
I am saying whether he is a hero or a monster depends on the larger picture, which none of us will ever know.
It's a cute moment, but those can be deceiving. I have known many wonderful, outwardly perfect families that subsequently disintegrated into recrimination once the lies were exposed.
So, if you like it, fine. In that situation, I would have discretely removed my daughter so as to minimally disrupt the show.
But I also would have asked myself why she was not up to the task. I have three adult daughters, in case anyone cares.
All are competent shooters, btw.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (ZOv7s)
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Dad could have walked around behind the stage (there are always right and left doors at the side of the stage) gone up the side, rescued his daughter and exited at that spot.
This world gives applause to narcissists.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
What a foetid mountain of bullshit that was.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 08:19 PM
Unlike Playboy, I don't believe Elle's readers buy it for the articles.
Posted by: Coach Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 08:23 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Chairman of the Board at June 20, 2025 08:23 PM (G5+As)
Ace, you were on fire today! wish I had been around to egg you on! En Fuego, Chuy!
between you, and the Horde, this is The Best Smart Military Blog EVAH!
*fistbump*
*high five!*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 20, 2025 08:24 PM (alnxS)
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Yeah, no matter how far left your state is people tend to frown upon you sending cops out to shoot at women standing on their porch during your lock down.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 08:24 PM (DBSSp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (4+GK1)
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Hochul is in New York. Lots more money there than Minnesota.
Also, Walz is a lying sleazebag. He lied about his rank and he lied about his deployment. To me he is the scum of the earth. I'd trust Jake Tapper over Walz.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:25 PM (ZOv7s)
The money angle I can see in being in the Senate but Governor Kathy Hochul seems to have made out financially, As I said , I don't like Waltz but I would g trust the word of the MN killer nor do I trust the FBI. Sounds like the Democrat mafia is out to get zeal
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (4+GK1)
Looks like he is term limited out in 2026. Appointing himself to a dead senator slot keeps him busy.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 08:25 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 08:25 PM (K9XnW)
Yeah he had that Maya Angelou touch that made his pedestrian lyrics sound impressive and poetc, like a steel worker with an autistic gift for poetry or something. I doubt he worked a day in his life. Neither has Billy Joel but his "regular street hard workin' man" stuff always resonated better for me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
I still listen to Springsteen, now and then. Nostalgia is quite the pull. I have quite a few of his CDs still. Up to those mediocre solo CDs he put out in the early 90s. Stopped paying much attention to him after that. He's just ridiculous now. Probably was then (shrugs).
For the record, The Michael Stanley Band was way better than Springsteen. Not even close actually. They just never got huge like Springsteen.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2025 08:25 PM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - the US is a matriarchy, women hold veto with no duty at June 20, 2025 08:25 PM (DBSSp)
This world gives applause to narcissists.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 08:22 PM (K9XnW)
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Exactly.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:26 PM (ZOv7s)
Hodgetwins:
BREAKING: Minnesota Shooter BLAMES Governor Walz in Confession Letter
Vance Boelter—the politically motivated suspect in the Minnesota Capitol shooting—allegedly left a handwritten confession letter, addressed to FBI Director Kash Patel, blaming Gov. Tim Walz for his rampage.
Boelter, 57, reportedly killed former House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, and wounded Sen. John Hoffman and his wife during early-morning attacks on June 14. The shocking note claims Walz is responsible for “creating the environment” that led Boelter to violence.
This isn’t just horrific—it’s a full-on indictment of Democratic leadership:
A confessed killer pointing fingers at Minnesota’s Governor.
An attack targeted at Democrats by someone holding them accountable.
A confession sent straight to a former Trump official, showing clear political motive.
Enough with the excuses. Radical rhetoric has real consequences—especially from the Left, whose poisoned political atmosphere may have pushed someone like Boelter over the edge.
Let that sink in next time Democrats lecture us about “civility” and “unity.”
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 08:26 PM (5WDkb)
He lies constantly about Trump and Vance, he lies constantly about his experience as a "football coach"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:26 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:27 PM (4+GK1)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2025 08:28 PM (u73oe)
I can't easily link it but he had an intimate performance / talk at Vanderbilt and a student asked if he could accompany him on New York State of Mind (iirc)
It's worth finding on YouTube. It also made me like Billy Joel more than just the regular "yeah, he's a talented guy you hear on the radio"
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - the US is a matriarchy, women hold veto with no duty at June 20, 2025 08:28 PM (DBSSp)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:18 PM (VpV7B)
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He's a bit hit or miss for me, but has some really great tunes.
Has "Allentown" ever been more relevant? Trump could use it as a midterm anthem to show how he's turned things around.
"And so it goes" is profound.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:29 PM (ZOv7s)
I like his earlier stuff, it just became difficult to be a fan or even listen to his music the dumber and louder he got with his dumb. Its like U2, i was a big fan, even while I found Bono an annoying and pretentious twerp but now they are so annoying I am not sure I even want to listen to their earlier albums any more. Stuff like Boy and October are so much more honest and real than crap like Zooropa. And even that makes me feel kind of cringy now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:30 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:26 PM (VpV7B)
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I expect politicians to lie about other politicians.
Lying about being deployed is a moral sin. It is an express ticket to hell. Same with lying about your rank.
What compounds the evil is the stupidity. Do you think no one will look it up? Are you that spectacularly stupid?
This is weapons-grade self-destructive dishonesty. Once you cross that line, nothing they say can be trusted.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:32 PM (ZOv7s)
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Credit where credit is due they were the first ones to accidentally break the story that Britney Griener (wnba, Russia drug arrest) was a man.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - the US is a matriarchy, women hold veto with no duty at June 20, 2025 08:33 PM (DBSSp)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:33 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:27 PM (4+GK1)
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Why go to these lengths. All they would have to do is smear poison on the windows. Sooner or later, he'd take a nice long lick.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:33 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Dr. Spock at June 20, 2025 08:34 PM (wVcYX)
He lies constantly about Trump and Vance, he lies constantly about his experience as a "football coach"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Dude bragged that he "... called a 'Pick Six' play."
That there was some pretty ballsy coaching!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 08:34 PM (xG4kz)
Don't touch me.
Your're touching me.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:36 PM (viF8m)
That there was some pretty ballsy coaching!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 08:34 PM (xG4kz)
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Window status: licked.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:37 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 08:38 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:38 PM (ZIggv)
https://tinyurl.com/bddw6uv2
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 08:39 PM (4+GK1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
LOL! Thats funny since my cutoff with U2 was post Zooropa. Achtung Baby was great! Zooropa was basically B Sides of Achtung Baby. I saw U2 live during there Zooropa tour, so I may have a bit of nostalgia bias going on.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2025 08:39 PM (ohOaC)
That there was some pretty ballsy coaching!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot:
To Be Fair™, he was talking about nostrils.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 08:39 PM (mlg/3)
Elle magazine, June 2, 2025
Next up, romantic slow dancing on the beach at sunset. Pics and video.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 08:40 PM (wVcYX)
"I'm sure I have no idea what you're talking about"
--'Da Nang' Dick Blumenthal
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:40 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:40 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 08:41 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 08:42 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 08:42 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:33 PM (ZOv7s)
*snort
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 08:42 PM (h7ZuX)
They had a few good songs after it but Joshua Tree is where we part ways.
I have a hard time with Rush after Hold Your Fire as well. It just felt like they ran out of their fresh edge.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:43 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:43 PM (ZIggv)
He lies constantly about Trump and Vance, he lies constantly about his experience as a "football coach"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Dude bragged that he "... called a 'Pick Six' play."
That there was some pretty ballsy coaching!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 08:34 PM (xG4kz)
No, he said, after playing Madden on one of those game consoles with Donkey Chompers, that "she really knows how to run a pick six." Still not a line anybody who has seen a football game, much less a former "coach" would utter, but, what do you expect from an idiot with a European mindset?
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 08:43 PM (VSht7)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 08:44 PM (ULPxl)
Today? What’s a Tarriff again?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 08:44 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:44 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 08:44 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:44 PM (viF8m)
1h
A NOTAM for aerial refueling just north of Hawaii has been published for June 21st starting at 0300 Zulu (11:00 AM EST). The attitude reservation entitled “GLOCK” is for altitudes FL210 - FL280. Looks like the B-2s are getting ready.
https://tinyurl.com/573a6m8b
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 08:45 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:38 PM (ZIggv)
I thought he said they were in the Jungle Room.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 08:45 PM (VSht7)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 08:44 PM (/CkK4)
Nukes are more exciting. Plus watching a country get an ass whipping.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:45 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 08:46 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 08:44 PM (qgNn3)
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It was a typo. I meant mortal sin.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:46 PM (ZOv7s)
Check out any photograph of Timpon in a public setting. He NEVER doesn't look like a deer caught in the headlights on the Back Harlow Road, which is why it is 50/50 that he actually did seek to sic the shooter on Amy Klobuchar.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 08:47 PM (xG4kz)
That there was some pretty ballsy coaching!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 08:34 PM (xG4kz)
*YAWN* Get back to me when he calls for "Stagger Lee" on 2nd and 11 on your own 4-yard line on your first possession of the playoff game against the Conference leader in their home stadium filled with 76,000 screaming fans.
Posted by: Jerry Ganlville, Houston Oilers Head Coach, Jan 1988 at June 20, 2025 08:47 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 08:47 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 08:48 PM (qgNn3)
But, again- he is retarded.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:48 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 08:48 PM (qgNn3)
Everyone wants to be a fallout TV series ghoul, not a fallout game ghoul.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:49 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:45 PM (YUL+W
Yeah but even before the Iran thing stated tariffs were fine from the news. It was supposed to be this monumental thing that would affect the entire world.
And then after a couple of weeks of coverage the msm got bored and went to the next shiny object. Maryland Man maybe? And they got bored of him too. The I E raids were hot. For a minute.
It’s just funny how THE THING lasts about a week before it’s never heard from again.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 08:50 PM (/CkK4)
But, again- he is retarded.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:48 PM (YUL+W)
Senator Doofenschmirtz.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 08:50 PM (h7ZuX)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 08:50 PM (/CkK4)
Don't forget the LA riots.
We'll see whether they try the same play on July 4th.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:51 PM (YUL+W)
But, again- he is retarded.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:48 PM (YUL+W)
I doubt he would have appointed himself. He would find some coozergibbet willing to hold the seat for a year but not run when the term was up. Then he could enter the campaign with no incumbent to worry about.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 20, 2025 08:52 PM (VSht7)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 08:52 PM (3R4hO)
Check out any photograph of Timpon in a public setting. He NEVER doesn't look like a deer caught in the headlights on the Back Harlow Road, which is why it is 50/50 that he actually did seek to sic the shooter on Amy Klobuchar
The wicked flee where no man pursueth.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 08:52 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:52 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 08:53 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 08:53 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:53 PM (YUL+W)
The DNC has demonstrated that they are capable of any number of despicable acts. We should take advantage of that reputation and keep them reacting.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 08:54 PM (dIske)
But, again- he is retarded.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:48 PM (YUL+W)
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If the plan was to blame TRUMP! it makes perfect sense. Walz accepts the mantle to carry the fight to DC, waving the bloody shirt as his battle flag.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:54 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 08:53 PM (3R4hO)
I doubt it. The LA riots just did not move the needle the way they wanted.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:54 PM (YUL+W)
I'm just another moron, Ben Had.
You bring everyone joy. You're just one of those few people that was put here because you have a gift. From the moment your last party ends the only thing many people talk about is the next one. It's a pretty amazing thing to watch.
But when you do get a moment, and you will, we'll be waiting for you.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 08:55 PM (viF8m)
Yeah, they ran the same play on Bush and finally found something in his 6th year, basically.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:55 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 08:50 PM (/CkK4)
I'm at the Baxter Building.
Posted by: Ben Grimm at June 20, 2025 08:55 PM (VSht7)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 08:56 PM (/CkK4)
It was a monumental thing that affected the entire world, for the better. That’s why the MSM won’’t talk about it.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 08:56 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 08:52 PM (3R4hO)
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Dem social media was aflame with attempts to say this was a MAGA guy. And now silence.
Surely all parties involved will welcome a federal investigation.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:57 PM (ZOv7s)
Let's work out the letter head before we send out the email. The left can't meme but we suck at being npcs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:57 PM (YUL+W)
Michael Bolton... cringe? I don't think so.
https://youtu.be/hqidLUQhI_E - NSFW
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 08:58 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 08:58 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 08:58 PM (+qU29)
B-2s are based mostly at Whitman AFB, right? The western route over the Pacific is much longer to Diego Garcia or the ME than the NE geodesics, which have to go over Europe and a whole bunch of countries. Fly over the Pacific, and none of that to worry about.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 08:58 PM (w6EFb)
Nice substack showing how the radicals of the 1970s led to today's Democratic party.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 20, 2025 08:59 PM (AcTAo)
Nominating yourself to the seat of a senator who just got murdered does not scream criminal mastermind.
But, again- he is retarded.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone
Back when Jimmuh picked Walter Mondale as his running mate and they won the '76 election, the then Governor of Minnesota, Wendell Anderson, arranged with his Lieutenant Governor, Rudy Perpich, to resign and then Rudy would appoint "Wendy" to the vacant Senate seat.
Minnesota voters were PISSED and they voted out Wendy, Rudy, and a substantial part of DFL officeholders in 1978. It took the "For Paul!" Wellstone memorial service some years later to push the Wendy comeuppance into the background.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 08:59 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:59 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:54 PM (YUL+W)
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The judicial lawfare is failing. Every injunction makes them look stupid and Trump has so many legal tools he can play three-card monte for the rest of his term. Plus, the self-deportations are already underway.
So they go to LIBERTY! But it either involves white Boomers handing out leaflets or illegals burning and looting. Neither are persuasive.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 09:00 PM (ZOv7s)
Michael Bolton... cringe? I don't think so.
https://youtu.be/hqidLUQhI_E - NSFW
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 08:58 PM (ExV1e)
_______________________________
LMAO, I was hoping that was where your link would take me.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 09:00 PM (dIske)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:00 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 09:01 PM (DzbJi)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 09:01 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 08:58 PM (w6EFb)
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Trump always telegraphs the punches he doesn't throw.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 09:02 PM (ZOv7s)
Sounds like a Columbo episode.
Posted by: fd at June 20, 2025 09:02 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:03 PM (qgNn3)
https://youtu.be/hqidLUQhI_E - NSFW
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 08:58 PM (ExV1e)
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I had to turn it off when he started singing. The old reflexes are still strong.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 09:04 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 08:59 PM (VpV7B)
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Bush was never conservative.
Bush was never pro-life
Bush was never pro 2A
Bush was always a globalist
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 09:06 PM (ZOv7s)
Oh yeah, he didn't send one, because he never gave a shit.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 09:07 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 09:08 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 09:01 PM (VpV7B)
He has other songs?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 09:08 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 20, 2025 09:09 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 09:11 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 09:11 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 09:12 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 09:13 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 09:14 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 09:14 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 09:14 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: Bulg
Ah, Cranberry Township. You can visit the Mall!! And. Uh. The Mall!! Or just go to Pittsburgh. It's just south of you. Ok, I kid, sort of. Probably more there now then when I was there decades ago.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2025 09:15 PM (ohOaC)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 09:15 PM (0aYVJ)
Sometimes a dad's gotta do what dad's gotta do.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 09:15 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 09:17 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 09:18 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: nurse ratched
Sometimes, you're just quite upset at the number of snakes on your aircraft.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 09:18 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 09:18 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 08:58 PM (w6EFb)
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There are six at Diego Garcia now.
These two could possibly be stationed at Japan
or south of China as a deterrent? Fly them into Seoul.
That will give Xi something to think about.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 09:20 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: nurse ratched
I like to express myself.
It's this or interpretive dance.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 09:20 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 09:20 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
Isn't that a biblical injunction against jogging?
Posted by: Dark Litigator at June 20, 2025 09:21 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 09:21 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: ...
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Devil his due, the old man did good work in WWII.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 09:22 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: nurse ratched
I'm ashamed to say I'm guilty of this way too often. I really need to clean it up.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 09:23 PM (h7ZuX)
Here’s a starting point if you want find out the answer:
https://is.gd/pzU1L3
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:24 PM (qgNn3)
A big Nebraska meat packer lost lots of workers after an ICE raid. Guess what happened next.
Remember this story out of Omaha where the feds used E-verify to track down more than 100 illegal aliens using fake IDs? And that those illegals allegedly pulled box cutters on ICE agents?
We were told this city would be in turmoil. The plant wouldn't know what to do without their illegal workforce. There would be no recovery from this.
Every seat in the waiting area of Glenn Valley Foods was occupied with people filling out job applications early Thursday afternoon, two days after the meatpacking plant became the center of the largest worksite immigration raid in the state."
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 09:24 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 09:01 PM (VpV7B)
The only catalog I celebrate in its entirety is Wicked Weasel
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 09:25 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 08:45 PM (YUL+W
Yeah but even before the Iran thing stated tariffs were fine from the news. It was supposed to be this monumental thing that would affect the entire world.
And then after a couple of weeks of coverage the msm got bored and went to the next shiny object. Maryland Man maybe? And they got bored of him too. The I E raids were hot. For a minute.
It’s just funny how THE THING lasts about a week before it’s never heard from again.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 08:50 PM (/CkK4)
The Democrat-Media Complex is the cast of a never-ending weekly soap opera. Every week there is a new episode. Characters are are periodically killed-off or move away unexpectedly (lose elections, can't hide their decrepitude, fired by CNN, etc.). New characters are periodically added as needed to keep viewers interested. Jasmine Crockett, for example, was added as a regular six or seven months ago. It is all disgusting.
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 09:25 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 08:10 PM (ZOv7s)
Billy Joel was an amateur boxer as a yute, so he wasn't calling nobody "boss". At one NJ show, Billy was noodling between songs and suddenly played the opening bars to Springsteen's "Jungleland". Crowd goes nuts. He stops playing and waits a beat, shakes his head, and goes into "Scenes from an Italian Restaurant". Crowd (myself included). lost its mind...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2025 09:26 PM (bA75n)
How is the new B-21 program going? That's supposed to be the replacement for the B-2.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 09:27 PM (w6EFb)
Crockett is the equivalent of adding a precocious but very annoying child to a show to try to boost sagging ratings.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 09:27 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at June 20, 2025 09:28 PM (XjTSo)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 09:31 PM (W/lyH)
He showed up at my marina a few years ago. His dog took a shit in the middle of the parking area and he walked away.
He helped create some great boats and a couple of goos songs. He's a douchebag.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 09:31 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Dark Litigator
Well, I'm not going to take any chances. No jogging for me!
(It was on the inferno side 100° today so jogging in that would be Hell.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 09:32 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:33 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 09:34 PM (L/fGl)
Here’s a starting point if you want find out the answer:
https://is.gd/pzU1L3
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
'Our' government lied to us?
Get out of town!!
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 09:34 PM (cYBz/)
How is the new B-21 program going? That's supposed to be the replacement for the B-2.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 09:27 PM (w6EFb)
publius, last I heard the USAF is very proud of the progress of the B-21 Program. Who knows if they're telling the truth? Once upon a time, I'd have unquestioningly believed anything the USAF told me. Loooong time ago. In hindsight, I was a fool at that time.
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 09:35 PM (aBgBM)
Oh, but, wait, but kitttehhs...!
Posted by: mindful webworker - d'awww, puppies and babies...! at June 20, 2025 09:35 PM (63lGh)
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 09:37 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:38 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 09:18 PM (zZu0s)
It's definitely something.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 09:39 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 09:39 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 09:40 PM (DzbJi)
'He showed up at my marina a few years ago. His dog took a shit in the middle of the parking area and he walked away.'
I thought you would field that 'grounder' for me.
Posted by: Billy Joel at June 20, 2025 09:40 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:40 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 09:40 PM (zZu0s)
Crockett is the equivalent of adding a precocious but very annoying child to a show to try to boost sagging ratings.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 09:27 PM (zZu0s)
Oh. Like Poochie! I loved Poochie. Too bad he got called back to his home planet.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 09:42 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 09:39 PM (0aYVJ)
***
Snort!
German rain.
Kicked their asses in '45 and I'll put any western Washington rain up against theirs. Anytime.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 09:42 PM (W/lyH)
And then put that turd to lyrics and thus "We Didn't Start The Fire" was born
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 09:44 PM (gKWVE)
I decided to go grocery shopping today, in South Georgia. Just a few minutes of unloading groceries from the truck to my house wiped me out! Had to lie down under a fan for a spell to recover.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:44 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: rickb223
That right there is why the owners of the meat packing plant need to be doing hard time in pound me in the ass federal prison as a gen pop ass boy.
Damned assholes cutting out the middle class workers for half priced slave labor. *spits*
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 20, 2025 09:45 PM (MsrgL)
Posted by: You Can Stick Piano Man Up Your Arse at June 20, 2025 09:45 PM (1AR5y)
'Something about the Bush family, as a whole, just rankles me.'
I know what rankles me about them. For 8 years Obama and the democrats ran roughshod over the country and the Bushes can't be bothered to help push back or say anything.
Trump gets nominated and finally they come out from under their rock to whine and aid and abet the 'Rats.
To hell with them.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 09:46 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:46 PM (qgNn3)
I wonder how much money the LA Dodgers have donated to help families torn apart by violence and murder done by illegal aliens...
LOS ANGELES -- The Dodgers have donated $1 million to assist families impacted by two weeks of immigration raids in Southern California.
The defending World Series champion Dodgers also said Friday that they intend to form partnerships with the California Community Foundation, the Los Angeles County Federation of Labor and other organizations to continue providing aid to immigrant families.
ESPN: https://bit.ly/4labwGF
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 20, 2025 09:46 PM (P5BPp)
Kicked their asses in '45 and I'll put any western Washington rain up against theirs. Anytime.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 09:42 PM (W/lyH)
In my defense, I spent three years in Deutschland, and only summer vacations in the PNW. But my folks were born and raised in Washington.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 09:47 PM (0aYVJ)
I just found a video of a test flight of B-21 prototype.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 09:47 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:44 PM (qgNn3)
*buffs nails on lapel*
Beat that Paolo!
Posted by: The Fan at June 20, 2025 09:48 PM (W/lyH)
publius, last I heard the USAF is very proud of the progress of the B-21 Program. Who knows if they're telling the truth? Once upon a time, I'd have unquestioningly believed anything the USAF told me. Loooong time ago. In hindsight, I was a fool at that time.
Posted by: Gref
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They just cut the delivery order for F-35s in half.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 09:49 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 09:47 PM (0aYVJ)
Had two tours in Germany. Loved it because it was just like home here in Washington State. Well, the west side anyway. And they had better bier!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 09:50 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2025 09:51 PM (DzbJi)
He said he was in East Texas.
Well you can say Dallas is in East Texas.
Besides his picture was taken and he was in Dallas.
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 09:52 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:53 PM (qgNn3)
Bob Iger has destroyed Disney & ESPN’s brands with woke politics. Next up? Renaming his women’s soccer team “Immigrant City FC” to protest ICE raids in LA. Can’t believe this is real:
X Video: https://bit.ly/4lc9C7H
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 20, 2025 09:53 PM (P5BPp)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:44 PM (qgNn3)
Glad you outfoxed those penguins.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 09:53 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:44 PM (qgNn3)
My mother lives in Georgia now, with my brother and his wife. She grew up in Washington State and lived for decades in Montana and Wyoming. She told me she spends most of the time indoors during summer. She would like Idaho, but our current apartment is rather small.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 09:53 PM (0aYVJ)
Damned assholes cutting out the middle class workers for half priced slave labor. *spits*
Posted by: BifBewalski
They hired illegals. They profited from illegal activities. They need to have the plant confiscated via asset forfeiture. Same as if they were drug dealers and had their cars and mansions taken.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 09:53 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: azjaeger at June 20, 2025 09:54 PM (3/XaG)
Damned assholes cutting out the middle class workers for half priced slave labor. *spits*
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 20, 2025 09:45 PM (MsrgL)
chances are they were not employing them directly, they were employing them through a contractor or an "employment service"
It used to be that raids on work places would have a processing afterwards, and local labor board folk would be called in to take claims of no wages, no overtime or employment at lower than stated rates or even lower than minimum wage
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 09:54 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 09:54 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 09:55 PM (b7rtK)
I just found a video of a test flight of B-21 prototype
Are you going to share your discovery?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 09:55 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: PabloD at June 20, 2025 09:57 PM (TgNVd)
Daddy Bush was hardcore Northeastern deep state and W may have had a natural inclination to be regular but always did what Daddy said.
Posted by: azjaeger at June 20, 2025 09:57 PM (3/XaG)
It used to be that raids on work places would have a processing afterwards, and local labor board folk would be called in to take claims of no wages, no overtime or employment at lower than stated rates or even lower than minimum wage
Posted by: Kindltot
Odds are they did employ them directly.
Every seat in the waiting area of Glenn Valley Foods was occupied with people filling out job applications early Thursday afternoon, two days after the meatpacking plant became the center of the largest worksite immigration raid in the state."
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 09:57 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Didja see that Mark Cuban says Kamala wanted him as a running mate but he turned her down so she went with Timpon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 09:59 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 09:50 PM (W/lyH)
I actually like rain. Weeks of it gets old. But. I also just moved from Front Range Colorado where the rain often hits all at once, and in balls of ice. Both of our vehicles are dimpled from huge hail stones. Just one more item on the long list of reasons we moved the fuck away from Colorado.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 09:59 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 10:01 PM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 10:02 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 09:57 PM (5WDkb)
NO I READ YOUR ORIGINAL POST AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU PUT DOWN so you don't have to bold it at me
I also have some experience in how large orgs hire workforce, and once upon a time I sat in on the after processing of an ICE raid on a food processor, and this is my opinion.
If you don't like my opinion then "whatever"
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 10:02 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: No Kings Jr. at June 20, 2025 10:03 PM (fY84s)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JEV1-d_mIXQ
It has a lot of padding, but the padding is explanatory and it does show the prototype in flight.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 10:06 PM (qgNn3)
The Week in Woke
A Jewish Republican Congressman from Ohio was run off the road by a Palestinian maniac who threatened to kill him.
A man who allegedly ran Rep. Max Miller "off the road" in Rocky River, Ohio, showed a Palestinian flag and threatened the congressman has turned himself in, police said Friday. The Rocky River Police Department identified the driver as Feras Hamden, 36, from Westlake, Ohio. They obtained a warrant for his arrest after Miller signed a criminal complaint for aggravated menacing, and filed a motion for a criminal protection order against the driver. Hamden turned himself in after the warrant was issued, police said. He is awaiting his first court appearance. The case remains under investigation, police said. State and federal authorities, including the U.S. Capitol Police, are also involved in the investigation. "In less than 24 hours, the USCP received notification of a threat against a Member of Congress, had boots on the ground, collaborated with the local police department, and the suspect in the case was arrested that same evening," acting Capitol Police Chief Sean Gallagher said in a statement. "This case is a prime example of the USCP's stance towards threats against our elected officials. We will continue to have a zero-tolerance policy." "Some unhinged, deranged man decided to lay on his horn and run me off the road when he couldn't get my attention, to show me a Palestinian flag, not to mention death to Israel, death to me, that he wanted to kill me and my family," Miller, a Republican, said in a video posted on X.Video here.
For the first time in my adult life I feel sympathy for the Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure. She literally cannot go a single little-streamed podcast without saying how much she hates her husband and wishes she hadn't had children. Wife of the Year:
The Hill
@thehill Michelle Obama on being "glad" she didn’t have a son: "He would've been a Barack Obama"
AOC is back on to her favorite issue: Demanding the government censor conservatives. "We have to find a way to reign the media (social media, she means) in." This communist, who like every communist lies like she breathes to subvert, demoralize, and destroy the functioning country she's in so that the communists can overthrow it, says that people aren't allow to to just say things that are untrue. Stacey Plaskett -- a fake delegate to Congress; she was elected by the Virgin Islands, but we don't let her vote in Congress on account of her being a retard and all -- recently took to Twitter to brag that, checks notes, her cooter is in fine working order.
Michelle Obama says she's "so glad" she never had a son -- because he would've been a kiddie clone of her husband. "You should've threw a boy in the mix," radio host Angie Martinez told Obama in an episode of the former first lady's "IMO" podcast released Wednesday. The remark came as Obama and her brother, Craig Robinson, along with Martinez, discussed society's view of masculinity and the challenges of raising boys and young men. "I'm so glad I didn't have a boy," Obama exclaimed. "Why didn't you throw in a third?" Martinez said with a chuckle to the mother of two. "Because he would've been a Barack Obama," the "Becoming" author and former president's wife quipped to laughs. "Baby Barack -- it would've been amazing!" Martinez replied. "Ooh, no, I would've felt for him," Obama added of the potential mini version of the ex-commander in chief. "She just borrowed our boys," Robinson said of his brood. "I got plenty," Obama, 61, agreed.
A medical school dean insists that True Science teaches us that women have dick-n-balls. He insists it's just a "stereotype" to say that women have women's genitals, and it's a stereotype we must fight with all of our Mental Illness Might.
Gender ideology, as you're likely aware, updates our understanding of men and women: Select cowboys suffer from uterine cramps, while some cowgirls are sour on saddles 'cause they scrunch up their scrotums. Per pro-gender Jerry, The Donald's dastardly datedness is deafening; let's turn down the stereotypes:They continue insisting that we can't tell men from women unless we force them to strip naked so we can inspect their genitals. 1, as JK Rowling snarked, we don't have to do a strip-search because we all have a "superpower called normal vision" which allows us to tell a Dude in a Party City Wig from a woman, and 2, even if there is some dispute, all it takes is a quickie search of prior records to establish one's true sex, or a simple cheek-swab and quickie chromosome test. Transgenders have convinced themselves that they are so obviously and completely real women that no one can tell. It's delusionary, these delusions are actually cultivated by their also-mentally-ill doctors who tell them absurd lies to "affirm" them with nonsense. Once transgenders leave the doctor's office to confront hard reality in the real world, they are stunned and hurt and sometimes react violently. The point of psychiatry used to be to teach people how to deal with the world. How to suffer defeats in a healthy way, how to avoid obsessing about other people's opinions.
"While [Trump's executive order re-establishing that there are two, and only two, sexes] allegedly attempts to protect women and girls, what it really does is threaten any woman or girl who doesn't conform to sex-based stereotypes and opens them up to invasion of privacy."
The goal used to be to help people build up their own inner strength to better absorb the hits and humiliations the world delivers on a daily basis. In the Transgender Age, psychiatrists have a new imperative: Don't teach patients how to adapt to the world, but tell them instead that the world is obligated to adapt to them. Transgenders leave psychiatrist offices all gassed-up on false reassurances and affirmations and then do not have the wherewithal to handle the bumps and hurts of the real world. They're completely surprised that the rest of the world does not agree, as their paid psychiatrist pretends to, that they are totally passing for the opposite sex. They're setting these people up for mental illness -- and worse. For the first time in psychiatry, psychiatrists are not writing prescriptions for their patients. Instead, they're now writing prescriptions for the entire world -- this person is delusional, and you are required, under doctor's orders, to play along with the delusions. Obviously, this doesn't work. Psychiatrists and "gender counselors" cannot order the world to "affirm" nonsense. Graphic: The wound left on the arm when they strip a kid's forearm-skin to build fake genitals that don't work. Biden's Surgeon General "Rachel" Levine allowed a "notorious" sex-change clinic to meet with a child in his Pennsylvania government office. An elementary school teacher brags about all the gay/trans propaganda she's spreading to her students, including having them watch a drag queen video.
The leftwing propaganda entertainment media has turned on Disney and even Kaffeine Kennedy.
Check out this headline, with a double-scoff of both Kennedy and Bob Iger:Academy Members Cringe as 'Star Wars' Boss Kathleen Kennedy Lobbies for Bob Iger to Receive an Honorary Oscar (EXCLUSIVE)Cringe? I guess they don't think much of this effort, or the messenger. They say Disney is trying to leverage their position as the broadcaster of the Oscars to wrangle an Oscar from the Academy.
Kennedy has reached out to select players at the board level inside AMPAS, encouraging them to recommend one of the annual honors go to Iger -- the man who secured Marvel, Pixar and Lucasfilm for Disney's war chest of intellectual property, selling billions of dollars' worth of movie tickets in the process. All branches of the Academy have been active in recent weeks, meeting about new membership matters, and Kennedy has used the opportunity to schmooze on Iger's behalf. While few in the industry would question Iger's worthiness of the prize, some board members have been squeamish over the optics, sources said. Disney, of course, owns the Oscars' longtime broadcast partner, ABC. Some of the members pitched feel that's a conflict of interest. Moreover, others noted, the Academy happens to be in the middle of negotiations with the network to renew its licensing agreement beyond 2028 (which will mark the 100th Academy Awards ceremony). Iger had no knowledge of Kennedy's outreach and did not request she pursue the honor, according to two people familiar with the process. It is considered routine for Academy members to lobby on behalf of honorary Oscar candidates, an AMPAS insider said, though some inside the organization are curious about Kennedy's motives.
The Vigilant FoxI don't have much use for this "Screw Your Freedoms" jackass. But he did embarrass Jimmy Kimmel by refusing to go along with his nightly two minute hate.
@VigilantFox
NEW: Arnold Schwarzenegger goes off script on The View--tells migrants to stop committing crimes and "respect America." RARE W for Schwarzenegger. The ultra-liberal panel on The View was left distressed after Arnold was asked about the violent LA riots. That's when he dropped the hammer: "The key thing at the same time, we got to do things legal. That is the most important thing." "You got to do things legal, and those people that are doing illegal things in America and they're the foreigners, they are not smart, because, when you come to America, you're a guest and you have to behave like a guest." "Like when I go to someone's house and I'm a guest, then I will do everything I can to keep things clean and to make my bed and to do everything that is the right thing to do rather than committing a crime of being abusive or something like that, so that doesn't really work in this country." Sunny Hostin panicked as she was herd interjecting, before literally placing her hand on Arnold to cut him off. But he kept preaching: "So I think the important thing is when you become an immigrant, you think about, okay, I go to America because I'm going to use America for the great opportunities America has in education, in jobs, creating a family, all of those kind of things." "Then you have to think about, okay, if I get all of those things from America, then I have to give something back." "You have a responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America and to pay back to America and go and do something for your community for no money whatsoever." "Give something back to after school programs, Special Olympics, or whatever it is, make this country a better place." [Audience erupts into applause] The hosts were stunned. And for once, Schwarzenegger got it exactly right.
Video at the link. I don't know if it's worth watching. Schwarzenegger is as inarticulate as ever and just speaks in vagaries and positive Austrian affirmations. But it is interesting that the crowd applauded Schwarzenegger's statement and didn't applaud Kimmel's partisan chum. WDW_Pro notices the craven Kimmel noticing the audience wasn't on board with his moronic BlueAnon crap and shifted tack. WDW_Pro also pointed out that this clip is from days ago but no one noticed until after Schwarzenegger's appearance on The View. And they didn't notice because no one watches this disgusting fatbody Jimmy Kimmel. Actress/comedian/showrunner Whitney Cummings says she used to be a "libtard" but since she's had kids she's increasingly based.
Jimmy Kimmel was humiliated recently on his own show after trying to goad Arnold Schwarzenegger into an attack on President Donald Trump. ... While appearing on Jimmy Kimmel Live, Arnold Schwarzenegger was pressed to comment on President Trump's recent legal threat to withhold federal education funds over California's controversial schooling policies. Kimmel framed his question in a way that implied a shared disdain for the 45th president. "Do you, as someone who has experience with predators, how would you handle Donald Trump in this situation where he is threatening to withhold federal funding from our students, from our schools, from disabled students?" Kimmel even referenced a far-fetched idea floated by Governor Gavin Newsom--that California could withhold its federal tax contributions in protest. But Schwarzenegger wasn't playing along. "Well it sounds always easy, doesn't it?" he said. "It sounds easy, but I mean--it doesn't happen. Because every individual in California pays taxes: state tax, local tax, and federal tax. So how are you going to stop them from doing that? Then if the IRS is coming after you... this is--look, I just want everyone to know--this is all dialogue. This is rhetoric. The left going after the right, the right going after the left." Instead of joining the pile-on, Schwarzenegger flipped the conversation, saying what many Americans are thinking. "The bottom line is they should get together rather than always pointing the finger at each other. They should really get together and solve this problem because that's what the American people want." The American people sitting in Kimmel's audience then burst into applause.
Actress Whitney Cummings says she’s always been a hardcore liberal, “I've always been a very liberal person, maybe even a libtard”
— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) June 18, 2025
“But once you have a kid, you start having thoughts that have been characterized as conservative.” Even wanting a gun
This is very telling pic.twitter.com/S7K6W9iIDS
🚨 JUST IN: TRUTH NUKE from Florida Senator Ashley Moody.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) June 18, 2025
"The media seemed to never ask [Biden] about executive action and policy. Favorite flavor of ice cream? Yes. Why he was pushing dangerous criminals into the interior of this nation? No!" pic.twitter.com/XlIjP1NZj3
Talk about Tone-Deaf messaging!
— Media Research Center (@theMRC) June 20, 2025
Democrat Rep. Hank Johnson releases hilariously bad anti-Trump song, and you just have to hear this 😂 pic.twitter.com/2uqSK6Uhm6
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:24 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (D7oie)
I was whipping up dinner.
I put some shredded carrots in my spaghetti sauce.
Is that a Forbidden Cookery like putting carrots in chili?
Will the Cosa Nostra make me sleep with the fishes?
Or, am I within the bounds of all that is right and good?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (+JUfx)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (dGCAG)
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I have trouble blaming her.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (Q4IgG)
Really, you can't get good help nowadays. Centering, holding, italicizing. There's been too much of that recently. I trust things will improve markedly in a very short time.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (QvGVF)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (od0dV)
Her husband is a gay homosexual who loves the cock.
That can't be pleasant for a wife. Even one with a cock.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (iJfKG)
there is nothing wrong with putting pineapple on your pizza either, really.
Haters gonna hate, and honestly, these people celebrate polenta with red sauce like it is some sort of cultural achievement.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (dGCAG)
Even your autocorrect can't keep up with my thoughts. Do better, please. The alternatives need not be mentioned.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 06:32 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: EveR at June 20, 2025 06:32 PM (Z/h4+)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:32 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: Vincent Vega at June 20, 2025 06:33 PM (/8Jbh)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 06:34 PM (od0dV)
Comediennes. You smile politely, not because they're funny but because it's rude to give expression to your true feelings.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:34 PM (QnmlO)
He wasn't the first Austrian to say this.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 20, 2025 06:35 PM (M0V4/)
________
Yet again proving the wisdom the Princess Bride.
Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 06:35 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 06:34 PM (od0dV)
No idea who Diana Darvey is, but I will say, when the Pythons dressed up as women, Eric Idle was the best looking.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:36 PM (dGCAG)
She said this purely to get attention. When the Usual Suspects begin bashing her online, she'll use that to get more attention. According to plan. She will say people misunderstood what she said, please don't think she's not a libtard!
Attention whores gonna whore for attention. Same as it ever was.
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:37 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 20, 2025 06:37 PM (qBdHI)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (QnmlO)
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Pixy's illegal immigrant hamsters that normally take care of formatting have been rounded up and deported.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:38 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 20, 2025 06:38 PM (M0V4/)
Posted by: Just the Punchline at June 20, 2025 06:38 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:34 PM (QnmlO)
There are more than a few, if I were in their presence, I would laugh.
Not for the funny, don't be silly, but in case they might give me some nookie. I wouldn't toss Whitney out of bed.
Or Iliza Shlesinger.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:38 PM (dGCAG)
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There's a certain demographic, that voted 95% for Kamala, for which this behavior is viewed as "being authentic."
Playing down to the lowest-common denominator.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 06:39 PM (rOVb5)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:39 PM (rWvc2)
I like her. She's a mom. She woke up.
We all have our own path.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2025 06:39 PM (ZmEVT)
Prove me wrong
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (D7oie)
It was the fault of n the troll! Swearsies!
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:39 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 06:40 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 06:40 PM (+qU29)
FIFY. It’s Big Mike.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 20, 2025 06:41 PM (NN56K)
*Spoiler Alert*
"She" didn't. They must have adopted.
Posted by: No Name Today at June 20, 2025 06:41 PM (vlXMQ)
It's even worse than that. She's a KINDERGARTEN teacher. She's propagandizing kids who believe everything an authority figure tells them.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:42 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 06:42 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 06:42 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 06:42 PM (0sNs1)
I can actually see that. Two Broke Girls was unfunny sitcom and terrible acting but it definitely wasn't politically correct. It was trying to put Cummings stand up jokes into a sitcom. Did Not Work.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:43 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:43 PM (lIio7)
No. Having children is the best destiny of any woman. You are designed for it.
Big Mike: A boy would have been horrible.
You effing bitch.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2025 06:44 PM (ZmEVT)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 06:44 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 06:44 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 06:44 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (iJfKG)
well carrots are a bit sweet which might cut the acidity of tomato sauce.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:44 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2025 06:45 PM (ZmEVT)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:45 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 06:42 PM (0sNs1)
Can't forcefully slam a phone down anymore. Gotta express one's self somehow.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:45 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Gay dudes who buy children at June 20, 2025 06:45 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 06:34 PM (od0dV)
No idea who Diana Darvey is, but I will say, when the Pythons dressed up as women, Eric Idle was the best looking.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:36 PM (dGCAG)
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Do a search for her Benny Hill videos. Then thank me later.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 06:45 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:45 PM (3R4hO)
Who the hell uses this term?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:43 PM
Stacey Plaskett, apparently. Perchance it's a localized slang term of the Virgin Islands?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 06:45 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Taxation without Reparation at June 20, 2025 06:46 PM (AN+ve)
Posted by: Ringo Starr in Caveman at June 20, 2025 06:46 PM (M0V4/)
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 06:46 PM (h7ZuX)
Federal Employee Unions. That's what's wrong with it.
Get rid of the Unions and I will change my mind.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:46 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 06:46 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:45 PM (rWvc2)
Hillory is a serial killer.
I don't think Big Mike has the drive to kill anyone.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:46 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:47 PM (jc0TO)
He must be a whole lot worse in private than even I thought he was.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:47 PM (viF8m)
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That Two Broke Girls show might be the single unfunniest "comedy" I have ever spent 5 minutes attempting to watch.
And that includes all of those other terrible shows that inexplicably appear in regular rotation on the "LAFF" channel.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 06:47 PM (TN0g+)
The 1st year ones are the ones you want.
Or, a Masterbuilt from the C Shop.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:47 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Bill Lumbergh at June 20, 2025 06:48 PM (wVcYX)
That one chick had a great pair of tits, tho.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:48 PM (MmNOR)
Heh. Once she had a kid, she realized she wanted a gun.
Posted by: No Name Today at June 20, 2025 06:48 PM (vlXMQ)
The Democrats Doom Loop continues apace...
These stupidassholes still believe they are just one viral video, just one riot, just one hoax, just one dead black thug, just one fake investigation away from defeating Our Favorite President(tm).
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 06:48 PM (NgOuo)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 06:49 PM (K9XnW)
Who the hell uses this term?
Posted by: bonhomme
Zug zug
Posted by: Ringo Starr in Caveman at June 20, 2025 06:46 PM (M0V4/)
Bunga Bunga
Posted by: South Pacific Island Chief at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (wVcYX)
That person will not be admitted to Heaven.
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:48 PM (MmNOR)
And the other had a great pair of legs.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
she's a man, baby!
I saw her penis on Ellen at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (AUL7F)
Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: No Name Today
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Nest preservation.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: MSNBC 1942 at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (R/m4+)
__________________________________
The above is part of a statement made by Jefferies and two other democrats relative to the lunatic running Max Miller off the road and threatening to kill his family and him. My concern is, other than stopping the gaslighting of their constituency to act in such a way, Congress should take exactly zero action on what is a law enforcement matter.
My impression is that Jefferies and the other self-important congresscritters are going to push for legislation that gives added elitist protection to themselves. This is a growing trend across the globe...world governments are pushing to make it illegal to criticize politicians. Parts of Canada already do this. UK is debating this.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (dIske)
What a thoroughly miserable excuse for a human being Big Mike the Wookie is.
I imagine they mutually antagonized each other all the time.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 06:51 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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The interwebs say it's used throughout the Carribean, and particularly Jamaica.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 06:51 PM (ITkJX)
He must be a whole lot worse in private than even I thought he was.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:47 PM (viF8m)
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You may refer to your spouse to others with exasperated affection, but no decent person denigrates them publicly.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:51 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Spoiler at June 20, 2025 06:51 PM (jc0TO)
Mrs.D just saw a.meme about the Dodgers. The subject was how the Dodgers were going to have an antifa bobble head night. A perfect burn on them and the media for their lies about ICE using Dodger stadium to round up illegals. Apparently a couple ICE dudes used the parking lot to link up.
The bobble head was hilarious.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 06:52 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:51 PM (QnmlO)
This X Eleventy.
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:52 PM (iGK7y)
It's even worse than that. She's a KINDERGARTEN teacher. She's propagandizing kids who believe everything an authority figure tells them.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:42 PM (lIio7)
I read this on Insty, I think. Why do we never hear about drag queens reading books to temporary blind people in the hospital, or to people in nursing homes who have extreme vision problems or cannot easily turn pages in a book, or reading to all sorts of temporary or permanently disabled people? Why do we only hear about drag queens reading dodgy books to little kids? Is that the only audience drag queens want to read to? Makes a person wonder what's going on.
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:52 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 06:52 PM (+qU29)
It would have happened here. But we won.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:52 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 06:52 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:53 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: MSNBC 1942 at June 20, 2025 06:50 PM (R/m4+)
Would be have interesting to see what a Jewish State could have turned Madagascar into.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:53 PM (rWvc2)
The 1st year ones are the ones you want.
Or, a Masterbuilt from the C Shop.
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Yes! I'm a Strat guy through and through--if you said you were gifting me 5 electric guitars of my choosing, I'd pick 5 Strats (probably an Eric Johnson signature, a Clapton signature, a Robin Trower Signature, and then figure out the other 2 later).
Interestingly (to some), the SRV signature includes a Pao Ferro fretboard. And yet when the Fender Player Strat switched from Rosewood to Pao Ferro a couple of years ago, people whined that Pau Ferro was somehow a downgrade of material.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 06:53 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:53 PM
You got it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:54 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (aBgBM)
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Just to clarify/confirm, you want Charlie Brown's Dildo to surprise you?
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2025 06:54 PM (kOluj)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:53 PM
Prayers for a positive outcome
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 06:54 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:52 PM (aBgBM)
No, we all know what is going on.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:54 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 06:54 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 20, 2025 06:54 PM (QB+5g)
I always liked the Jeff Beck Strats a lot.
And I couldn't be without a Jazzmaster, so a J Mascis C. Shop would be imperative.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:55 PM (MmNOR)
Not even Kat Dennings' magnificent rack could keep me watching that aggressively awful crap. It wasn't just unfunny like Night Court or Friends. It was like someone was holding the writers hostage and they were trying to get someone to check why they weren't writing jokes.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:55 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:47 PM (viF8m)
It's like when Bill Gates' ex says something about not sharing his values.
I mean, these women are evil, but we can't even imagine some of the things they've seen their husbands do.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:55 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (QnmlO)
To continue a thought from the last thread, the reason I'm against putting teeth into involuntary confinement and expanding the empire of mental health is because I know damn good and well who will end up being labeled mentally ill by modern psychiatry, the expert class, and the state: people who won't take mandated shots and use others' preferred pronouns etc.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
she's a man, baby!
I saw her penis on Ellen at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (AUL7F)
40 Year Old Mystery Forgotten Lyrics!
Is it cloak and dagger
Could it be spring or fall?
I walk without a cut
Through a stained glass wall
Weaker in my eyesight
The candle in my grip
And words that have no form
Are falling from my lips
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (NgOuo)
Most were built by Suhr and Gene Baker. And most were Super Strats...
Incredible Guitars. Some of the best Fenders ever built.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 20, 2025 06:54 PM (QB+5g)
She's never had a good appearance. She's got more whine in her than Napa Valley and more race cards than all the Olympics combined.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (rWvc2)
I saw her briefly in some other show called Welcome to the Neighborhood. Her butt was HUGE!
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:57 PM (lIio7)
Because they think it makes them sound badass instead the low quality pussy-pass abusers that they really are.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 06:57 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 06:57 PM (NgOuo)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:57 PM (MmNOR)
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Absolutely! If you haven't seen Jeff Beck's live performance at Ronnie Scott's, you need to--I have it on DVD and I'm glad I do!
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 06:57 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 06:58 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 06:58 PM (ZIggv)
Does anyone really think Michelle without Barry would be a pleasant, well-adjusted lady and mother?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 06:58 PM (QnmlO)
Give me a Japanese Wizard neck all day long.
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:58 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 06:58 PM (VE6XX)
And that includes all of those other terrible shows that inexplicably appear in regular rotation on the "LAFF" channel.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 06:47 PM (TN0g+)
That's five minutes more than I ever saw.
I just tried to watch her standup, because somebody said something or other online about her, and she's good looking.
Bleh.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:58 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Nathan Wade at June 20, 2025 06:59 PM (wVcYX)
Honestly, the 90s Jap C Shop might have been the best iteration of the C Shop.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:59 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (aBgBM)
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Just to clarify/confirm, you want Charlie Brown's Dildo to surprise you?
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2025 06:54 PM (kOluj)
I've met him. He is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.
Now I will get back to playing solitaire.
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 06:59 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2025 06:59 PM (NgOuo)
Haha. Ace and his Disney.
He just can't help himself.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 06:59 PM (3wi/L)
Mooch and Hillary have been publicly betrayed by their spouses, remember Black Eye-d and Bandaid-ed Barry following the dead chef incident, and during his white house years, Barry going without Mooch on a vacation to some tropical clime with Reggie Love.
Hillary...there's no understanding what Bill has put her through, unless that was the whole point of his adulteries, to humiliate her; "That'll teach ya!"
Yep...money and mansions can't buy happiness.
Posted by: ju at June 20, 2025 06:59 PM (vgX6l)
I have the LP Set.
Saw Jeff a few times. Once with SRV. Guy was an absolute Alien.
Easily the best of the best.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:00 PM (MmNOR)
Honestly, the 90s Jap C Shop might have been the best iteration of the C Shop.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 06:59 PM (MmNOR)
More pinball talk , less guitar.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 07:01 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (2GCMq)
Not to diagnose over the internet, but if she IS a narcissist, that's the answer.
They don't love their kids, they don't love anybody. Everyone exists to please them, or they have no use for them.
And when those kids grow up, they tend to turn out to be monsters.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:01 PM (dGCAG)
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Its funny you mention Night Court. One of those up-the-dial channels carries it and I've tried a couple of times to endure it...and I can't, not even with Markie Post. Its just not funny, kinda like Ace's favorite Margaret Cho.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 07:01 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Man at June 20, 2025 07:01 PM (tubbA)
Is everyone barking mad except us?
Posted by: fourseasons at June 20, 2025 07:01 PM (3ek7K)
"Hey, Joe! Where ya goin' with that shit in your pants?"
Posted by: Toad-0 at June 20, 2025 07:01 PM (cct0t)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (2GCMq)
Seems odd for the crash to come this late...either right after the second term exit, or stay on in other houses most of the time to keep appearances.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:02 PM (8avO+)
I got an American Pinball 'Hot Wheels' dropped off here a couple weeks ago.
Friend ran out of room, so it is set up in my shop for now...pretty fun game.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:02 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 07:02 PM (+qU29)
'Not even Kat Dennings' magnificent rack could keep me watching that aggressively awful crap. It wasn't just unfunny like Night Court or Friends. It was like someone was holding the writers hostage and they were trying to get someone to check why they weren't writing jokes.'
You watch it with the sound on?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 07:02 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 07:02 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: garrett
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What he said.
But I like a lot of their funky bass tunes.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (ITkJX)
311 Their next in Hawaii throwing the Democrat Jackass in the Volcano
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 20, 2025 06:11 PM (wGqjj)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (2GCMq)
I'm not infallible.
I concede that she might just have a nine-inch clitoris. Nature can be terrifying.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
she's a man, baby!
I saw her penis on Ellen at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (AUL7F)
He must be a whole lot worse in private than even I thought he was.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:47 PM (viF8m)
Or, as is often the case, no matter what he provides it isn't good enough. Not enough millions, not enough houses, not enough cars. Some women (and Big Mike) are just insatiable black holes of greed and ingratitude.
Posted by: I'm sure Barry is an insufferable jackass too but still at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (TbWk/)
Marital relations between Big Mike and Barky likely involved the two of them, naked, circling and feinting lunges at each other, in a game of "Squirrel". The one who succeeded in grabbing the other's nuts was free to crush them by as hard a squeeze as they could muster.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (xG4kz)
>>I saw her briefly in some other show called Welcome to the Neighborhood. Her butt was HUGE!
That goes really well with a nice set of legs.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (MmNOR)
Yep...money and mansions can't buy happiness.
Posted by: ju at June 20, 2025 06:59 PM (vgX6l)
Word is, Hillory and Bill would go to Epstein's ranch in New Mexico, dress up like cowboys and pass the girls back and forth.
I don't think it ever bothered Hillory that Bill was dipping his wick elsewhere, only if he was getting some she wasn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (dGCAG)
I just think she's possibly and understandably upset and let down that she is married to a man who's gay who doesn't really love her
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Wait! Obama is gay? Stop the presses!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 07:04 PM (KYQhI)
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:04 PM (DnMuk)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 07:04 PM (5xNsa)
I don't know if she has NPD or not. I would not be at all surprised if Obama has it. And if she doesn't have NPD yes, she might have been happier with a normal life.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 07:05 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Eyes Rolling at June 20, 2025 07:05 PM (H+njS)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:05 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:04 PM (DnMuk)
Wait, there's a large black population in ATL?! Stop the presses again!
Posted by: Breaking news! If you're an idiot... at June 20, 2025 07:05 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 07:05 PM (iGK7y)
I was not casting shade on CBD - I was being a Moron and laughing at your phrasing (i.e. when spelling out his nic rather than abbreviating)
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2025 07:06 PM (kOluj)
What are we get a not woke replacement?
*shakes magic 8 ball*
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 07:06 PM (Splbu)
It became a running joke with me and John Page for a while.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:06 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 07:03 PM (xG4kz)
Oh My!
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at June 20, 2025 07:07 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
.....
I just think she's a unhappy ingrate.
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 07:07 PM (v0R5T)
Wasn't intended as a "Stop the Presses" comment. People here and elsewhere have been talking about it since before he became President, but of course he wouldn't have been elected as President in 2008 had he been openly gay.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 07:07 PM (2GCMq)
Friend ran out of room, so it is set up in my shop for now...pretty fun game.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:02 PM (MmNOR
Just watched the video. Lot going on. 6 multi ball Does look fun.
I'm still looking to get the 8 Ball machine (pool) . Are there different versions?
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 07:07 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 07:05 PM (2GCMq)
In her public pronouncements, it sure sounds like she does.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:08 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Breaking news! If you're an idiot... at June 20, 2025 07:05 PM (TbWk/)
That why I like to get away to a cabin retreat in Tennessee most weekends.
Posted by: Nathan Wade at June 20, 2025 07:08 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 07:08 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Kamala Harris at June 20, 2025 07:08 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:04 PM
Nobody rode MARTA?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 07:09 PM (0sNs1)
There are no rules about this where you can conveniently slap labels on people to support your narrative.
And I think it is entirely within possibilities that Michelle might have turned out different if she had married a decent man.
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 20, 2025 07:09 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Eyes Rolling at June 20, 2025 07:10 PM (H+njS)
'
I imagine they mutually antagonized each other all the time.'
Barack had his play partner wear a Michelle mask when they played hide the sausage. And she caught them.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 07:10 PM (3wi/L)
Yes. There are 3-4 Eight Ball iterations.
The first has the Fonzie looking dude on the Backglass and is a bit less desirable than the 8 Ball Deluxe, which has the Cowboy / Marlboro Man looking guy on the glass.
Both were made in 2 different runs, iirc.
The Second 8 Ball Deluxe was in an odd cabinet with a different type of Digital Display than the original. But the Playfield layout and rules are the same.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:10 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at June 20, 2025 07:07 PM (R/m4+)
Speaking of, until the Republicans and/or right leaning media people start saying "For heaven's sake, can we all just acknowledge the Lindsay is a flaming homo," I'm not going to say anything about everyone on the left pretending Old Joe wasn't senile.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:10 PM (dGCAG)
tonight is technically "Summer's Eve," yes?
Posted by: Soothsayer
I guess it is and, hey, all of the disposable douches will be out and about!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 07:11 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: pawn,
And Barack might have turned out decent if he hadn't had a commie mom and been abused by creepy old men
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 07:11 PM (Splbu)
Marital relations between Big Mike and Barky likely involved the two of them, naked,
________
Well, there's a mental picture that will ruin your appetite.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 07:11 PM (QnmlO)
On the plus side, I saw an old friend there that I wasn't expecting to see. A rare non-leftist librarian and even a shootin' librarian. I'm trying to talk her into coming to TX MoMe X.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:11 PM (DnMuk)
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You know, sometimes people are young and in dire circumstances, and struggle with what to do when facing a momentous choice and know that they can't hardly keep food on their on table, much less plan for a child. And sometimes those people make *unfortunate* choices.
But if you quit a paying job to go to work for planned parenthood, you might as well just go for it and have 666 carved into your forehead--you're of the devil and have no defense for it.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 07:11 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:10 PM (dGCAG)
Yo I got news for ya
Posted by: Ice-T at June 20, 2025 07:11 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 06:52 PM (ZIggv)
Lol, Ben Had! Just the other day I made reference to a spike drag when a friend sent me the "Dodge Ram Protest Edition" meme. I told him it needs a spike drag section welded to the grill guard...
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2025 07:12 PM (kOluj)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:12 PM (ZIggv)
'I mean, these women are evil, but we can't even imagine some of the things they've seen their husbands do.'
I could. See 175.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 07:13 PM (3wi/L)
Barry is a retarded dipshit but he was the actual President of the United States. Got the house and plane and everything. It almost doesn't matter how much money he has, he never has to spend any of it.
Until we get a president of the planet that's pretty much the tits. This is more than money. She must have caught him with flipping eggs with the recently departed chef or something.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 07:13 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 20, 2025 07:13 PM (5cl3b)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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That doesn't fly too well. It was an arranged marriage, she knew what she was getting into. Since the marriage she's lived the life of a prima donna - the best food, clothes, living arrangements, people to associate with Not counting the hundreds of paid for foreign vacations with family and friends to the most exotic, expensive and beautiful places in the world - Without Barry.
She's an ungrateful, ungracious, hateful shrew.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:13 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 07:11 PM (Splbu)
Why, it's almost like you CAN predict how people are going to turn out, by how they're raised.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:14 PM (dGCAG)
I think the one I'm looking for is the first iteration. A Bally from the 70's.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 07:14 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Ben Had
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Those poor underground nuclear weapon workers must have lost their shit. BTW do they wear hard hats or kevlar turbans?
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 07:14 PM (UjdFS)
It became a running joke with me and John Page for a while.
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Lol! I can imagine the "specs".
I've mentioned before that I've been banned in at least 3 guitar forums. Strat Talk is one, the Gear Page Forum is another, and the Telecaster Guitar forum. I think I'm unbanned at the last one, but I have no interest in returning.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 07:14 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:15 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 20, 2025 07:09 PM (QB+5g)
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I don't think people on the outside understand how miserable politicians actually are. That's why they get drunk all the time, to numb the pain. They love the power, but are constantly afraid of being knocked down the ladder for good.
Michelle obviously was playing a role, one she hated, and it's interesting that she has said that their kids were made via IVG, which is not something you put out if there are rumors your husband is gay - unless you hate him.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:15 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:13 PM (K9XnW)
Yep. Regardless of how much of dick Barry is. These things are not mutually exclusive.
Posted by: In parallel if not in concert at June 20, 2025 07:15 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:11 PM
Dang. We're going to have to polish u[ our shoes.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 07:15 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 07:13 PM (3wi/L)
Sounds like any Tuesday. I mean the really.... REALLY dark stuff.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:15 PM (dGCAG)
That one is usually pretty easy to find and generally affordable.
The first iteration of 8 Ball Deluxe is the ealry 80s and commands a premium.
Though BOTh had BIG production numbers.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:16 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: JackStraw
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She knew he was faggot before she married him.
Heavens, the kids were IVF.
If Moose ever had sex it wasn't with him.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:16 PM (K9XnW)
That's the chick that played Darcy in the first couple of Thor movies. Great rack but that voice...
Posted by: Nelly at June 20, 2025 07:16 PM (cHLus)
But I only had to sit through one land acknowledgement.
Posted by: screaming in digital
Did they apologize to Pogo the Possum, Albert the Alligator, and all their Okefenokee Swamp pals for appropriating their lands and then rendering them a 2-D caricatures?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 07:16 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 20, 2025 07:17 PM (5cl3b)
Guitar Forums and Audiophile Forums are so infiltrated with Lefty Douchenozzles it isn't even funny.
I was a member of the PRS Forum which became the Gear Page...banned from both at one time or another.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:17 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: davidt at June 20, 2025 07:17 PM (i0F8b)
That's the chick that played Darcy in the first couple of Thor movies. Great rack but that voice...
Posted by: Nelly at June 20, 2025 07:16 PM (cHLus)
She was the daughter in 40 Year Old Virgin. She acted a lot better in that movie.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 07:17 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 07:18 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Nah, just put on pants.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:18 PM (DnMuk)
Within the 10 seconds that I was watching they swooned about the dreamy chocolate jesus.
That's my 10 seconds of knowledge of Two Broke Girls.
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 07:18 PM (fV+MH)
Haven't seen this term in a while and welcome it back to my tiny brain, Ace.
I argued with my husband that the 5.1 earthquake could be something not natural. I said there are weapons no one knows about and will stick to this. Altho I could not find Tehran on an unmarked map if my life depended on it. Nor if the earthquake was near the mountain cave thing. Time will tell once the dust settles, hopefully on some moo-lahs.
I am following the renewed murder case of Barry Morphew who was re-arrested/indicted for the murder of his wife. I get into the weeds with some cases and this was one of them. I want this guy to rot.
The other case I follow is the murders of the Idaho college students by a serial killer wanna be, but only did it once. This guy creeps me out. I hate him, too. Mostly because he is probably guilty of murder, but also because he is butt ugly. I pick and choose who I want to be shot by firing squad.
Just another hobby in the heat of the summer preventing me from working outside.
Happy Friday! We survived another week of the potential for sudden jihad!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2025 07:18 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 20, 2025 07:17 PM (5cl3b)
Web Hubbell did the honors.
Posted by: Family resemblance at June 20, 2025 07:19 PM (TbWk/)
I don't like her personality I don't like what she says, but she's the one who knows if Barack is gay or bisexual and I'm sure he can and probably did a convincing routine of "I love you Michelle" and be Mr Charm if he needed her to fall for that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 07:19 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
she's a man, baby!
I saw her penis on Ellen at June 20, 2025 07:19 PM (AUL7F)
The entire premise of that show was ridiculous.
They were easily attractive enough that they were only broke by choice.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:19 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:19 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 07:19 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: davidt at June 20, 2025 07:17 PM (i0F8b)
I don't know about all that, but I think it was credibly argued that Michael Jackson never put his thingy in an adult woman his entire life, and that his children (child?) was milked out of him.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:19 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Nah, just put on pants.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:18 PM (DnMuk)
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Lets not be hasty here. It's not Sunday.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
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*takes notes for my next presentation*
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (DnMuk)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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She hates you as much as she hates Barry.
She hates America as much as she hates Barry.
She's a roaring thunderball of hate.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (K9XnW)
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Wow, time flies--I had forgotten about him. I wonder how guilty his folks were in the cover-up?
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (UjdFS)
Head on a swivel. And anyone worth shooting is worth shooting a whole lot, so (buy) and carry spare ammo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (xcxpd)
Guitar Forums and Audiophile Forums are so infiltrated with Lefty Douchenozzles it isn't even funny.
I was a member of the PRS Forum which became the Gear Page...banned from both at one time or another.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:17 PM (MmNOR)
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Almost all subculture forums are toxic. I think many of the posters and comments are from bored incels who don’t even have the products they’re pretending they do.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (5cl3b)
She hates you as much as she hates Barry.
She hates America as much as she hates Barry.
She's a roaring thunderball of hate.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (K9XnW)
Now that's a downright mean thing to say.
Posted by: Toned arms at June 20, 2025 07:21 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 07:13 PM (K9XnW)
Kinda big for a shrew. More Squatchy I think.
Posted by: James Bobo Fay at June 20, 2025 07:21 PM (R/m4+)
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...
Posted by: The Cup at June 20, 2025 07:21 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 07:22 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: washrivergal at June 20, 2025 07:22 PM (enLUE)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 07:22 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:23 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 20, 2025 07:23 PM (TN0g+)
The entire premise of that show was ridiculous.
They were easily attractive enough that they were only broke by choice.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:19 PM (MmNOR)
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‘I got a yacht’
— Chad Highborn IV
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 20, 2025 07:23 PM (5cl3b)
Oh, brother...can that possibly be the case they're *both* sexually perverted? I knew they were ruthless power-mongers but - kids!
I can't even...and she calls us "deplorables"...?
Posted by: ju at June 20, 2025 07:23 PM (vgX6l)
'They were easily attractive enough that they were only broke by choice.'
Are you saying they could have had careers in the 'entertainment' industry?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 07:24 PM (3wi/L)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:24 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:23 PM (RIvkX)
In other news, Rose DeLauro has three children.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:24 PM (dGCAG)
That show sucked.
Posted by: KwaK! at June 20, 2025 07:25 PM (89Sog)
Master Baster
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 07:22 PM (3wi/L)
WHO RUN BARTERTOWN?!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:25 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2025 07:04 PM (DnMuk)A
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All the local indians took a hike to Oklahoma,
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:26 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:26 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:26 PM (ZIggv)
I believe irredeemable.
Funny how projection works.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 07:26 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 07:26 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 07:22 PM
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Posted by: Huma at June 20, 2025 07:27 PM (0sNs1)
You'll always have Tryvon Martin.
... Oops, maybe you won't.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2025 07:27 PM (/lPRQ)
Story of my life. Some day my sugar momma will come along.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 07:27 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:26 PM (8avO+)
Ouch.
*snort*
Too soon?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:27 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:24 PM (dGCAG)
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What color is zhers hairs?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 07:27 PM (RIvkX)
Lot more right wingers on Mesa Boogie forum. Still in good standing with that one
Posted by: JROD at June 20, 2025 07:28 PM (IlL6s)
Posted by: davidt at June 20, 2025 07:17 PM (i0F8b)
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I think it was in the run-up to her podcast that she said that, and of course it garnered sympathy, but the other part of the message was unmistakable.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:28 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 07:26 PM (ZIggv)
Or that we're all God's children in the dark?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
Lot more right wingers on Mesa Boogie forum. Still in good standing with that one
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The posters at Strat Talk were decent people (mostly). The 3 active mods were all marxist.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 07:29 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 07:24 PM (dGCAG)
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Sailors are famously flexible about standards.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:29 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 07:29 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2025 07:29 PM
At least they have standards.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 07:30 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 07:31 PM (zZu0s)
NOOD
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)
I think of the ass burn that is afflicting Barky right now over how his designees to be the Middle Eastern locus of power are getting their Seventh Century asses kicked and then I smile even more broadly.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 07:31 PM (xG4kz)
Gumby isn't that flexible. I suspect a turkey baster was involved.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 07:31 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:32 PM (MmNOR)
Until we get a president of the planet that's pretty much the tits. This is more than money. She must have caught him with flipping eggs with the recently departed chef or something.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 07:13 PM (viF8m)
Yeah he can fly somewhere, be comped free hotel for security, have nice dinners and such with world leaders and get presents as well.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:32 PM (8avO+)
youtu.be/oNwazXCcrGU
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 07:32 PM (gKWVE)
The Offset Guitars Forum was always ok, imo.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 07:32 PM (MmNOR)
How about the cactus needle record playing forum?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 07:32 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 07:33 PM (0sNs1)
I’ve been a Moronette for over 20 years. Some of you know me from LGF as well.
For those who know my story, you’ll celebrate with me that my son officially changed his last name to my family name.
Posted by: Goddessoftheclassroom at June 20, 2025 07:33 PM (USyCi)
Posted by: Frozen Zombie George Mallory at June 20, 2025 07:34 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 07:20 PM (TN0g+)
I, Rosanrosanadana, think the father knew. He flew out to Idaho from Pennsylvania to drive back with the precious son in the white car that was suspect. One of his daughters, a psych major of some stripe, was wondering why Bry was acting pretty weird even for himself that holiday. He was caught, wearing gloves at 0330 or 4am one morning (by the police), sorting garbage into little ziplock baggies and then putting in a neighbor's trash. Which does not mean he butchered people, but he was a known weirdo. I often sort garbage, wearing boxer shorts and gloves, into baggies at 0330 or so because everyone does this, right?
I think the Amazon order of the Marine knife is something...as he left touch DNA on the snap in the frenzy.
The father, who has bad teeth...not making him part of this...drove the son back at Christmas. My parents never drove me back for holidays or summer from many states away and I flew.
I am...not yet...not a serial killer. I have a huge adversion to serial killers due to living near one by accident in college.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2025 07:36 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 07:41 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 07:48 PM (Hucnr)
In the article cited I didn't actually see those new scores for MS
They weren't shown
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 20, 2025 07:54 PM (gVnlU)
Posted by: Fritzty at June 20, 2025 08:08 PM (T5dpv)
Biden was exposed, but Barry remains a well guarded mystery.
I mean, other than being an asshole.
Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2025 08:13 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: 29Victor at June 20, 2025 08:59 PM (j6Ika)
Because unlike men, they haven't had to shit their teeth out the next day after fucking around and finding out.
Posted by: UncleJefe at June 20, 2025 09:59 PM (DzC+b)
Posted by: dasbow at June 20, 2025 10:51 PM (2uz2r)
Doubtless this is true for some. But the ones that make the real waves are the ones who go out of their way to avoid any pretense at passing but demand we pretend anyway. You know, the ones who won't meet us even 1/10 of the way by doing simple things like shaving their beards or chest hair, for instance. Or the ones who wear makeup but flaunt the fact that they still have male genitalia by invading women's spaces and showing them off at every opportunity. These ones aren't mad they don't pass; they're mad we won't act like they pass. They're much worse.
Posted by: Amuk at June 21, 2025 12:41 AM (a5LZW)
....It was a massive thumb-in-the-eye trifecta to America, putting a mentally-ill nutcase in charge of "mental health," AND making said nutcase the first fake-"female" admiral. AND posing him with the bald cross-dresser Sam Brinton in dozens of photos
published all over the world, making the U.S. look like the land of trannies. Bribem's handlers must have been laughing their asses off.
Posted by: sf44 at June 21, 2025 03:43 PM (X4dZG)
Weirdly, the Leftwing Media Isn't Interested in Reporting That Red States Now Lead Blue States in Education and Student Achievement
Buh buh buh we're the Smart People who Love the Science (TM).
No, you're the blinkered, uneducated, little-read, provincial morons who believe in weird demonic cult dogmas.Wait -- you're saying that didn't work?
Not long ago, blue states typically outperformed red ones when it came to education. That is changing. Blue states like Oregon and Washington experienced significant drops in reading and math scores for both fourth- and eighth-graders between 2015 and 2024, worse than the national declines during the same period. Mississippi, meantime, gained five points in fourth-grade reading and math and held steady in eighth-grade performance. Louisiana also maintained its scores, defying the negative national trends. Whether you call it the "Mississippi Miracle" or the "Southern Surge," Republican-led states are rapidly improving student outcomes relative to blue states, thanks to a series of substantive reforms over the past decade. Republican-led state governments have implemented evidence-based reading curricula, banned ineffective teaching methods, and improved school safety. In contrast, Democrat-led states have undermined school discipline, reduced academic standards, and embraced policies that deemphasize achievement in favor of ideological goals.
Liberals are always engaging in primitive cargo-cult thinking. Here's what these assholes thought: They saw that kids who were very good at reading did not use phonics to read words, but rather just recognized them in a glance. So they reasoned: If the smart kids are just reading words "whole" at a glance, that must be what we must teach our slower-readers to do! It apparently never occurred to them that fast readers had all gone through the phonics sounding-out process, but at an earlier age than their peers. And then, after reading for a couple of years before even getting to first grade -- yes, they then were reading words by sight (at least the ones that were already stored in their memory's word-bank). They stopped using phonics not because phonics wasn't useful, but because they eventually outgrew it. These geniuses similarly noticed that kids who were good at math sometimes didn't use the standard algorithms for doing multiplication and division, but instead used little tricks to manipulate the numbers to make calculation faster and easier. Once again: These kids all used the standard techniques of memorization and long-form multiplication and division first, then, as they became proficient, they began realizing on their own that there were quick tricks for doing calculations. Like, if you want to divide by 10, just move the decimal point one place to the left. But these geniuses again decided that because the smarter kids were figuring out these shortcuts, then we should skip teaching kids the standard algorithms for calculation and just teach them the tricks. And that's why parents are unable to help their kids with math any longer-- Parents all know the standard algorithms, and are ready to teach it, but when their kids come home they're told do weird stuff the parents haven't seen before. Which is another big thing stupid liberals don't realize: Teachers set the pace of learning in classrooms, but it's actually parents who do the bulk of the actual teaching at home. So if you make up random nonsense to "teach" kids math, you are cutting the main teachers of math, the parents, out of the equation. I hate the Educrats. They are constantly churning out New and Stupid Techniques both to justify their phoney-baloney jobs and also to provide excuses for why low-performing teachers are unable to teach kids. See, it's not the incompetent teachers' fault -- it's the fault of The System! We can fire The System and keep all the incompetent teachers on the payroll! This is such a standard bureaucratic dodge it ought be be criminalized. They never want to fire incompetent bureaucrats, just fire the old "system" (or "procedures" or "trainings"). The old system (and procedures, and teachings) usually work. But no system works in the hands of an incompetent. Read the whole thing. Red states are also making it easier to remove disruptive students from the classroom, whereas blue states are making it impossible to do so, thus guaranteeing that those few disruptive students won't be the only ones leaving the school entirely uneducated. All the students they kept from learning will also graduate with a moron-level intellect. (No slight to good Morons intended.)
The most important factor driving this divide has been the progressive push for "equity." In practice, equity has meant eliminating honors classes, lowering grading standards, and loosening classroom discipline. Avoiding this ideological approach, red states have taken the lead on evidence-based reforms. The divide is particularly striking in reading instruction. For decades, American schools steered clear of phonics--the instructional method that teaches students to connect letters with sounds--which progressive educators derided as a right-wing scheme (and some still do now). They favored the "whole language" approach, whereby students supposedly learned through a "holistic" process of immersion in literature and "sight reading." Even though this approach was exposed as a failure as early as the 1950s, when Rudolf Flesch's Why Johnny Can't Read warned of its ineffectiveness and championed phonics, the educational establishment stuck with the whole-language approach throughout the 1970s and 1980s. In recent decades, however, red states have returned to phonics. In 2013, Mississippi, under unified Republican leadership in both the legislature and governor's mansion, was an early adopter of requiring that teachers be trained in evidence-based reading pedagogies. At the time, Mississippi rated second to last in reading scores nationally. But since then, the Magnolia State has steadily climbed the rankings. In fact, adjusted for demographics, it now stands among the top states in reading.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Pretty good movie, but that's what it's like talking with many of these Woke Karens.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 05:23 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 20, 2025 05:24 PM (7KTzQ)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 20, 2025 05:24 PM (7KTzQ)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2025 05:26 PM (WnnlU)
Posted by: Chicago School District Reading Specialist at June 20, 2025 05:27 PM (IifOV)
It's Part of the Process of Learning. And it is necessary.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM (jc0TO)
youtu.be/OBJR03BORRQ?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM (D7oie)
The math skills aren't any better. They keep changing the way to do math so often you can't even help your kid do their homework anymore.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 05:29 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 05:29 PM (jvJvP)
It's Part of the Process of Learning. And it is necessary.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM
If you can't do your 12X12s instinctively, you can't math.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:29 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:29 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM (ULPxl)
Schools are daycare centers now. Its difficult to fail a student. Everybody advances.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM (IifOV)
So...
I've been watching "Murderbot" on AppleTV, which several morons seemed all excited about.
I gotta say it's pretty slow, boring and lame.
You can tell the books were written by a woman as the 'edgy" murderbot is mostly just a snarky lame-ass. Oh, the snark! It kills or something.
Anyway, I hate all of you who recommended it, and as penance you should all go watch DUNE: When Girls Wuz Bosses.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM (iJfKG)
Zealots. Like looking Stonewall Jackson in the eyes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:31 PM (zZu0s)
That's modern education.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:31 PM (8avO+)
I gotta say it's pretty slow, boring and lame.
You can tell the books were written by a woman as the 'edgy" murderbot is mostly just a snarky lame-ass. Oh, the snark! It kills or something.
Anyway, I hate all of you who recommended it, and as penance you should all go watch DUNE: When Girls Wuz Bosses.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM
Aren't you amused by the feckless space hippies?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:31 PM (jc0TO)
Zealots. Like looking Stonewall Jackson in the eyes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:31 PM (zZu0s)
That's not cultish. Its a gang defending its turf.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:32 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 05:32 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM (IifOV)
If you can't fail a single student, you are failing ALL the students.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:32 PM (dGCAG)
There were often new things coming out. She'd close her door and teach phonics to her grade ones. Tried and true.
I often hear that Mom was their favorite teacher ever.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 05:32 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:33 PM (rWvc2)
I gotta say it's pretty slow, boring and lame.
You can tell the books were written by a woman as the 'edgy" murderbot is mostly just a snarky lame-ass. Oh, the snark! It kills or something.
Anyway, I hate all of you who recommended it, and as penance you should all go watch DUNE: When Girls Wuz Bosses.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM
Aren't you amused by the feckless space hippies?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:31 PM (jc0TO)
If they were dying horribly, I might be.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:33 PM (iJfKG)
T - 05:20 'till solstice at 02:42:15Z. Astronomical Summer will soon begin. This is going to be a near perfect one. All the little wig-woggles of the earth-moon system are canceling out, and Sol is going be dead on the ecliptic relative to the geocenter down to less than a tenth of an arc-second.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 05:33 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:33 PM (zZu0s)
I gotta say it's pretty slow, boring and lame.
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Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM
Aren't you amused by the feckless space hippies?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:31 PM (jc0TO)
Do the space Egyptians kick the space hippies out of their space station?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 05:33 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 05:32 PM (fV+MH)
In the immortal words of Iggy Pop, a lot of sucking and licking.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:33 PM (dGCAG)
It's Part of the Process of Learning. And it is necessary.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM (MmNOR)
Definitely can be.
But it can also be a part of lazy ass teachers with a god complex who want to imprint their bullshit on you.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:34 PM (3R4hO)
I had a friend who taught math in an inner-city HS. He would openly tell people that his students didn't know enough math for him to be able to teach them anything. He said he felt his job now was to be a "father figure" to them. He completely gave up om trying to teach them anything.
During COVID, they gave all the kids laptops to do school from home, but the majority of the kids wouldn't hop online to attend class, so the school district sent busses with Wi-Fi around the area (because the problem was, obviously, that the kids homes didn't have Internet :eyeroll). Still, only about a half of his students would show up.
Eventually the school gave up, closed everything down for the year and told him to give all his students a 'C' and pass them to the next year. Even the kids who had got online for classes and did the work still got a 'C.'
So, yeah. Our schools are a joke.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 20, 2025 05:34 PM (zh37m)
Schools are daycare centers now. Its difficult to fail a student. Everybody advances.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM (IifOV)
Dangerous ones.. We've had several stabbings lately at the local HS's....Of course the County removed police from being on campus a few years back and that has absolutely nothing to do with it...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 05:34 PM (VE6XX)
Yeah... I get it, some people learn better with different methods, and a good teacher will work with their students to best effect, but -- and this is a BIG butt and I cannot lie -- memorization is key to learning. You gotta memorize or you have not learned.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:34 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (BjH5D)
Posted by: Some pithy sayings really sum things up at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:33 PM (zZu0s)
That isn't true. There were essays about the classics, and oratory as well. Pretty practical in a class that had careers speaking in public without microphones and speakers.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM (iJfKG)
You mean Dune second part? First part was as good as the second part was bad.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (rWvc2)
Can you stretch that to cover not-quite-good? I'd be much obliged.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (wVcYX)
Now they are "educators".
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (AUL7F)
My favorite math teacher was a woman who just loved numbers and she was so enthusiastic and interesting that you caught some of that as a student. She saw amazing and interesting patterns in everything and taught me to see them as well. I learned all kinds of tricks in her class like how the nines multiplication table is inverse first and second digit, and how to break 12 down in so many ways.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (fV+MH)
It's only sort of true.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (TN0g+)
It's Part of the Process of Learning. And it is necessary.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM (MmNOR)
Yup. You can't just intuit what 5 x 6 is, or what year the Boston Tea Party started. Kids in grade school are learning the most basic stuff. It's only later they can really start synthesizing it.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (KRtlO)
I gotta say it's pretty slow,
How many 2 headed giant centipedes do you need?
Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (FhXTo)
But the parents made too big a fuss (they would have had to drive their kids further if this school had closed) that, instead, the district kept the scool open and spent millions remodeling the school.
It sucks just as much now as it ever did, but now they have modern lighting, I guess.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (zh37m)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (XeU6L)
Which is itself appalling because sociology is not civics.
Civics is how *our* society works, and what its rules and conditions are. Whether you like it or not.
It's like teaching linguistics instead of English. Or teaching metamathematics instead of arithmetic.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (BjH5D)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 05:34 PM
I had teachers that would throw stuff at us, yell, and rule their classrooms like a dictator. Best teachers we ever had. Kids actually respect adults who hold them to account. We completely ruled over the teachers who were pushovers.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM (iJfKG)
You mean Dune second part? First part was as good as the second part was bad.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (rWvc2
I mean DUNE: The Streaming Series on MAX
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (iJfKG)
They claim they want to teach "critical thinking."
Um, how about your prove you're capable of teaching to the test first before we take off the shackles and let you teach what your version of "critical thinking" is?
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:33 PM
Rote memorization works for me. I can still remember those times tables from 60+ years ago.
This common core math stuff seems to me to be a crutch that lets you come up with an answer without actually being able to remember the answer decades later. IOW they are just teaching to the test and not teaching actual math skills.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (e5NfL)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (TN0g+)
I had the multiplication uh, line? for 7s memorized early on because it's touchdowns.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (ULPxl)
Dad always made us calculate discounts and sales tax at the register and made it a game from as early as I can remember.
Nail that 7.5% at the checkout and you were likely getting some ice cream on the way home.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (MmNOR)
Rhetoric. Valid.
It was meant to be a slightly more nuanced comment including corporal punishment as well. Lot of beatings going on.
I am trying to comment on break.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (zZu0s)
I had a Latin teacher who looked like Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movie.
And also not the sexy one.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM
The casual mention of alien artifacts amused me. Something weird's going on, it's probably aliens.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (KRtlO)
So, yeah. Our schools are a joke.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 20, 2025 05:34 PM (zh37m)
In high school our Latin Class had a program for advanced students to teach Elementary School kids some Latin language and culture. We had the disadvantaged area kids, and they ate up the Latin like sponges, thought it was cool that other languages existed.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (8avO+)
Knowing Historic dates are necessary to see the logical progression.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (ULPxl)
'Merica
Posted by: 29Victor at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (zh37m)
Posted by: Unionized Govt Educators at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (6bxmr)
Muthafuckers best be getting my monies back to my ass!
Posted by: Louis Winthorpe III at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (rWvc2
I mean DUNE: The Streaming Series on MAX
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:37 PM (iJfKG)
I keep skipping over the movie, the two part version with M. Night Shalamay as the lead.
Or whatever his name is.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (dGCAG)
Did you go to my high school?
The saving grace with mine is she was a big Bruins fan with 2 seats right behind the bench. You had to really do something special to get those tickets.
I'm told. I have no firsthand knowledge.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (viF8m)
I was struggling badly in math until mom got some flash cards and spent a few hours with me getting me to memorize the answers and I started to figure out the patterns. I don't even like math much and did pretty badly on the math side of my SATs but these days I play games like Crossmath that's basically algebra for fun.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (VpV7B)
I think anyone who learned with phonics never stops using phonics. When I come across an unfamiliar word, I'm grateful that I have a framework to sound it out. And dictionaries use phonics to show us how it's pronounced.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (h7ZuX)
And also not the sexy one.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (dGCAG)
Hah!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (zZu0s)
Ace, I believe there is another thing at work in continually changing teaching methods. Progressiveism! 'Progress' must always be made! Nothing we do or have today is adequate! We must continually march forward towards the perfect human condition! We Progressives will lead you to Utopia, you dumb-ass hicks! We KNOW BEST! Just get out of our way!
What's that old saying? "Progress went on for too long" or somthing like that. More like an old truism.
Hard-core progressives are extremely dangerous.
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (aBgBM)
I am trying to comment on break.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (zZu0s)
I think a lot of that comes from the Emperor Hadrian's writings who apparently had a beef with someone, or was a narsty kid who needed to be hit.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 05:41 PM (vbXSk)
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True.
Because homework that requires the assistance of a parent, is a job failure from a teacher.
And 99% of teachers are failures.
What a f'ing scam the left convinced the taxpayers to accept:
1) We're going to force you to pay for teachers, but you're going to end up teaching your kids
2) and the schools system we use is designed for the factory system and no other--barely educated, compliant and conditioned to defer to authority and accustomed to "home work" outside of regular hours, if the boss demands it.
This is called "modern education."
And is defended even by many conservatives
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 05:41 PM (rOVb5)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (KRtlO)
Rule 34 popped into my head while typing and I wanted no confusion.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:41 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:41 PM (MmNOR)
I think NCLB was an attempt to end-run around this BS by requiring testing and ranking.
The problem is that it was a sub-lethal dose of antibiotic and the disease (the bureaucracy) adapted a resistance. They came back stronger and harder to kill.
The biggest complainers about NCLB (No Child Left Behind) was the teachers and unions. They said it would only case "teaching to the test," which is kind of the point. Testing math and reading skills.
Anyway, the solution now is to end public schools, period. Break it all up. Kill it with fire.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 05:42 PM (QvGVF)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (KRtlO)
Not if you have a hot wife and little kids at home.
Wait until the kids are in bed... time to come down the chimney!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:42 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 05:38 PM (ULPxl)
'Merica
Posted by: 29Victor at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (zh37
Or the drinking game Buzz. Any number with 7 in it or a multiple of 7 is substituted with the word buzz .
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:42 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (jc0TO)
If you happen to look, you'll see the sun will set this evening as far north of west as it ever will, and rise tomorrow morning as far north of east as it can. For me here at ~35N, that's about 30 degrees north of east and west.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (w6EFb)
Lots of boys learned more math from the baseball cards than you'd think.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:40 PM (8avO+)
It's the fun thing about history. You KNOW Caesar is at least partly trying to get you to vote for him for Consul (even 2000 years after the fact) when you read his commentaries.
How reliable are sources? Another thing not taught much.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (zZu0s)
Yes, yes, we do that, too. We start with tacos, but you make burritos by AP Latin.
Posted by: Elitism - Catch It! at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (d5iTI)
It's Part of the Process of Learning. And it is necessary.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM
Especially with simple math. Numbers and what they do don't change and once you know them you don't have to think about them again. I learned multiplication tables up to 20 in 4th grade. I still know them.
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (n2swS)
Posted by: polynikes
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Forgotten about that. We did 7's and 11's drinking game. Because nerds.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 05:44 PM (2bFN5)
The AP kids could be taught how to cypher-predict their overall GPA.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 05:44 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: The most effective option at June 20, 2025 05:44 PM (hOyR5)
The Blue state kids are TOO advanced!!!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 20, 2025 05:45 PM (ycI94)
Posted by: The most effective option at June 20, 2025 05:44 PM (hOyR5)
Makes teachers having sex with their students even weirder.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:45 PM (dGCAG)
That was suspiciously close to math.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 20, 2025 05:45 PM (sRoQh)
Involuntary commitment needs to come back too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 05:45 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:46 PM (VpV7B)
Involuntary commitment needs to come back too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 05:45 PM (Q4Ig
Have to build a whole lot of them.. The entire Dem party...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 05:46 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Scrooge at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (IG2sK)
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I'd like a word with you about that...2+2....what does that total?
Posted by: O'Brien at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (TN0g+)
The notion that Rote Memorization isn't learning always annoys me.
Especially since virtually every E Asian country depends on Rote to churn out students who can actually communicate and do math. Their problem is that they often don't teach their kids any creativity in how they use that memorization. Hence, you get the Chinese, who can exactly copy the dimensions of a jet engine for their air force but they totally fail when it comes time to deal with the metallurgy and control code.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (y9nCu)
He should fire her.
OSINTdefender@sentdefender 1h
Reporter: “Mr. President, what evidence do you have that Iran is building a nuclear weapon? Your intelligence community has said they have no evidence that they are at this point.”
President Trump: “Well then my intelligence community is wrong, who in the intelligence community said that?
Reporter: “Your Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.”
President Trump: “She’s wrong.”
https://tinyurl.com/mw8bz2j9
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:48 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (rWvc2)
Me too... But not the bowling league...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 05:48 PM (VE6XX)
It's Part of the Process of Learning. And it is necessary.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM
Especially with simple math. Numbers and what they do don't change and once you know them you don't have to think about them again. I learned multiplication tables up to 20 in 4th grade. I still know them.
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (n2swS)
I’m still working on the multiplication tables but I gave up on algebra in 1966.
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2025 05:48 PM (jgmnb)
The schools in my southern district are noticeably, palpably better than the ones in my Denver-are district. Beautiful facilities, way less creepy, I haven't met any unseemly teachers yet, etc. Higher standards, for sure. Also, more opportunities to do different stuff - my stepson's HS, for instance, has the coolest metal shop I've ever seen at a school, or anywhere really. And they even have a mobile one on a semi-truck. They still have a choir, too, and a band that performs concerts with the local symphony.
Schools back in Denver were worse in every single dimension.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 20, 2025 05:48 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 05:36 PM (fV+MH)
Now you've done it . Your autocorrect is really going to screw with you now.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 05:48 PM (h7ZuX)
Even the word "progressive" is classic sloganeering. It doesn't tell you what they are for - only what they are "against". The implication is their enemies don't want "progress".
Just like BLM implies the enemy thinks black lives don't matter, or how No Kings implies the enemy wants a king.
Note how No Kings says nothing with regard to their feelings about an unelected secret cadre of perverted corruptocrats making decisions for a drooling empty figurehead while bleeding the country's rectum dry.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:48 PM (3R4hO)
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So true
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 05:48 PM (Splbu)
Negative. I skipped memorization and went straight to "counting by x". It made algebra infinitely easier as a bonus.
Posted by: John Rooney at June 20, 2025 05:49 PM (EL2O4)
Involuntary commitment needs to come back too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 05:45 PM (Q4IgG)
Rather than harumphing this comment, I'll just say once upon a time the "funny farm" was a much more humane way to isolate the crazies from the rest of the poopulace.
Open grounds, with walls and gates, where the goofies could roam around, family could come visit, and staff didn't have to do much more than just keep them from hurting themselves.
Locked buildings are the thing of real life horrors.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:49 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:49 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2025 05:49 PM (qgNn3)
Involuntary commitment needs to come back too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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I've brought insane asylums/mental hospitals up in conversation outside of the grey boxes. Always interesting reactions.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 05:49 PM (2bFN5)
After that, people can look for better ways to teach but should gravitate to what has worked before until they discover something.
I don't want an electrician for instance that skipped the first dozen classes of safety by just being given a good grade. Learn the f'ing basics.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2025 05:49 PM (rvwwT)
Posted by: Fantasy letter at June 20, 2025 05:50 PM (hOyR5)
The Blue state kids are TOO advanced!!!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 20, 2025 05:45 PM (ycI94)
there's a bit of that, or was. The tests given to blacks for induction to the army in WWI had lots of questions that were culturally slanted to urban areas. These days these differences are a lot smaller than a sharecropper was to a university kid.
The main explanation of the gulfs on standardized tests is that taking these tests is a skill that needs to be learned by everyone. And those with no schooling never had that.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:50 PM (8avO+)
One of my mathematician cousins, going on about something we were talking about, mentioned the Banach-Tarski paradox, which I hadn't heard of.
It's an absurdity of sorts due to nature of uncountably infinite sets, such as the set of points on the real line, or a set of points in 3D space.
You can take a sphere of unit radius, and split it up into pieces, and then reassemble in two unit spheres. This also implies you can take a sphere the size of the Sun and reassemble into a pea, and vice versa.
This is pure math and has no real physical meaning at all, because the pieces there are "unmeasurable", meaning the volume isn't defined. But's it's a crazy thing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 05:50 PM (w6EFb)
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I'd like a word with you about that...2+2....what does that total?
Posted by: O'Brien at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (TN0g+)
Whatever you need it to total, sir.
Posted by: Count de Monet, Highly Employable CPA at June 20, 2025 05:50 PM (wVcYX)
Yeah mom helped calm my chaotically creative mind by teaching me that I had to learn the rules and get good at it before I can start changing things. That was a tough lesson to learn. Probably still not great at it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:51 PM (VpV7B)
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I suspect, like "it's who counts the votes that matters" it's who decided what was measured that matters.
I'll bet good money that the measurements of achievement were not post-education or results-based.
But, rather, heavily skewed toward self-reported or easily manipulated measurements.
One lament at school reform that only sounded smart to the highly-credentialed was, regarding standardized testing, "but then teachers will just teach to the test!"
Um, yeah? Standard, universal achievement metrics?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 05:51 PM (rOVb5)
I will add some depth to that. In Washington, home schooled kids can opt out of the standardized tests, but the majority do take them. Over 90% of the kids in my wife's program take them. A significant majority of those kids score well above the score set as acceptable. The second part is that the home school population in Washington has increased significantly over that time period. Remove home schooled kids from the data set and the scores become significantly worse.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 20, 2025 05:52 PM (F31MH)
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 05:49 PM (2bFN5)
Me too! Whenever I go home for Thanksgiving, by the time the turkey and stuffing are all gone, I'm telling all my family "YOU PEOPLE BELONG IN THE NUTHOUSE!"
Makes for interesting after-dinner conversation.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:52 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Norm MacDonald at June 20, 2025 05:53 PM (wbowN)
Not mental health. Care. Institutions. Long term. Like for the rest of some people's natural lives.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 05:53 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Fantasy letter at June 20, 2025 05:50 PM (hOyR5)
I don't want to hear what you and two friends did to the ball.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:53 PM (dGCAG)
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I'd like a word with you about that...2+2....what does that total?
Posted by: O'Brien at June 20, 2025 05:47 PM (TN0g+)
Whatever you need it to total, sir.
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Its amazing that we all lived long enough to see the Democrats embrace 1984 as a how-to guide.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 05:54 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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And freedom to tinker. Just like the pre-school kids that learned phonics. Kids with dad in the garage fixing things, or puzzles, or models. You see youtubes of Russians out in the shop turning old Vespa type scooters into ice boat racers or what not. The kids are there learning and Russian assembly is improving on a natural because putting things together accurately is intuitive.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:54 PM (K9XnW)
I'm not sure if I agree with this assessment.
The Tennessee Pre-K studies from Vanderbilt tend to disagree. If you have a moment, I'll explain.
Leftists (and some RINOs) in Tennessee wanted universal Pre-K (read that as "mandatory") and used this logic as their reasoning. Start kids earlier, they'll do better later.
But some Tennessee parents didn't want to have to send their 4 year olds to leftist training camps all day, 5 days a week, and preferred state run Pre-K be optional. Of course the state wanted more school jobs and more growth, so they commissioned a study by Vanderbilt to track children from both Pre-K and non Pre-K households,
Vanderbilt, being leftist, was inclined to get the results that the leftists desired, however when the numbers came in, it did not bear out the "Head Start" theory, and instead showed complete convergence in testing by the 2nd grade, and in most subjects by the 1st grade.
So the state ran the study again, unhappy with the first .This time: complete convergence by first grade.
Posted by: Something to Consider at June 20, 2025 05:54 PM (H+njS)
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"EVERYONE MUST BE TRANSGENDER AND EQUAL IN IMBECILITY ... BUT MOSTLY EQUAL IN IMBECILITY, H8RS!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 05:55 PM (Woe03)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 05:56 PM (IG2sK)
Gee I don’t know why they’re all failing.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 20, 2025 05:56 PM (8bQ1C)
Posted by: Tik Tok at June 20, 2025 05:57 PM (iGK7y)
We've noted that people who use AI *well* in their careers right now already KNOW how to get the answer, they are just using a tool to get to the right answer *faster.* In other words, they can evaluate the correctness of an AI-generated response and provide feedback that will increase the accuracy of the result as needed.
Students using AI for the first time to "learn" material lack that necessary discernment and will use AI to give them the answer, without even knowing if it is right or wrong.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 05:57 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 05:57 PM (Splbu)
Once again: These kids all used the standard techniques of memorization and long-form multiplication and division first, then, as they became proficient, they began realizing on their own that there were quick tricks for doing calculations. Like, if you want to divide by 10, just move the decimal point one place to the left.
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This did this to my kids. My daughter was fully traumatized by math. They taught all these tricks, sometimes three of four different methods AT THE SAME TIME. She was thoroughly confused.
Bill Gates can go to Hell
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 05:57 PM (yTAax)
Yeah, I'm sure you can trust the government to be well-intentioned and thoughtful about due process.
It would be a Soviet-style program for incarcerating people who made the state unhappy within a decade of funding, if not sooner.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 05:57 PM (AUL7F)
Stupid southerners !
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:58 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: NYC Subway Ad 1978 at June 20, 2025 05:58 PM (G5+As)
How reliable are sources? Another thing not taught much.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (zZu0s)
Julius' are probably the best vetted ever. He had the sons and cousins of his political rivals in as officers and aides. He published them in the city square so everyone could read them out (or have them read) and call him a liar or not. It was before nearly all the troops and officers were from the outer provinces. And we have them written by the general himself, at the time it happened.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:58 PM (8avO+)
It's the fun thing about history. You KNOW Caesar is at least partly trying to get you to vote for him for Consul (even 2000 years after the fact) when you read his commentaries.
How reliable are sources? Another thing not taught much.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 05:43 PM (zZu0s)
Machiavelli's The Prince was written largely as a job application to the Medici rulers of Florence, even though when they overthrew the Florentine Republic, they arrested Nick and tortured him with the strappado after he was suspected of plotting against the Medici.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 05:58 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 05:59 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 06:00 PM (0aYVJ)
Students using AI for the first time to "learn" material lack that necessary discernment and will use AI to give them the answer, without even knowing if it is right or wrong.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Been going down this rabbit hole too. Spent an evening with my nephew - law school student discussing AI and how generations are using it differently.
Catch you all later - couples golf night. Thanks Ace, for a great week of content.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 06:00 PM (2bFN5)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:00 PM (jc0TO)
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This is something I teach my students in my freshman composition class. I point out that the grammar quizzes are designed to give them basic practice in grammar and reinforce skills they should already know.
Once they've mastered the rules of written communication, only then will they be ready to bend or even break them. It takes years for successful writers to master that level of writing.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:01 PM (IBQGV)
Yeah, I'm sure you can trust the government to be well-intentioned and thoughtful about due process.
It would be a Soviet-style program for incarcerating people who made the state unhappy within a decade of funding, if not sooner.
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It doesn't, necessarily, need to be government run. Just the possibility of being institutionalized would probably tame a lot of the attention whores.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 06:01 PM (Q4IgG)
What I didn't get from the article is who is doing this? I asked our daughter who is in a suburban Pittsburgh school district and she said yes, no phones.
Do the deep blue cities say OK to cell phones?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 20, 2025 06:01 PM (zeLd4)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 20, 2025 06:01 PM (0Jl9j)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 06:02 PM (0aYVJ)
But, the ability to convert between fractions, decimals and percentages without a calculator is like practicing magic to most current high school graduates.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 06:02 PM (rOVb5)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 05:56 PM (IG2sK)
Maybe Ebonics is too...
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 06:02 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:03 PM (3R4hO)
I remember times tables in 1st grade.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 20, 2025 06:03 PM (0Jl9j)
Children that went to nursery schools vs state pre-k. Two parent pre-k vs two parent no pre-k. Educations level of parents. Income level of parents. One parent household pre-k bs one parent household no pre-k.
All aspects. Because many interested parties wanted to at least show that low-income households needed the program, and it could then be used to apply the needs of the poor across the entire population.
It turns out that regardless of any demographic factor, pre-K schooling had zero lasting results.
Posted by: Something to Consider at June 20, 2025 06:03 PM (H+njS)
Posted by: Capitol Hill Bill at June 20, 2025 06:03 PM (iGK7y)
They're called prisons.
This is not what the prison system is set up to handle but they've been trying to handle it for over 40 years now.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (rWvc2)
Again ... and on this I will argue until the sun goes down. TO HELL with those damn flash cards and times tables.
You teach a kid to count by twos to twenty. The you teach them to count by twos six times. The you get them to do it backward. Then you go to threes to thirty. Up to the nines to 90 and back
And then they have multiplication, division, and basic algebra.
Posted by: John Rooney at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (EL2O4)
'The math skills aren't any better. They keep changing the way to do math so often you can't even help your kid do their homework anymore.'
Hooray for New Math! New-hew-hew Math!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (3wi/L)
So the state ran the study again, unhappy with the first .This time: complete convergence by first grade.
Posted by: Something to Consider at June 20, 2025 05:54 PM (H+njS)
My mother, an ex college teacher, taught all the kids to read long before kindergarten. Also other things, and we went to libraries for books on any subject we liked. Self defense in a small house alone with 6 kids.
Most of my lessons in elementary were redundant in public school.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 20, 2025 06:01 PM (zeLd4)
How else are boys going to send dick pics to the girls (or boys... or teachers).
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 20, 2025 06:01 PM (0Jl9j)
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I did both, I think. I remember seeing report cards from my childhood that evaluated me on my "whole word" reading ability. I also remember going through phonics workbooks at a phenomenal rate. Of course, I moved around a lot when I was a kid, so that may have had something to do with it.
I also watched a lot of "The Electric Company" on PBS....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (jc0TO)
But it also involves common sense, something the teachers and parents can help a child with. It's not just about money.
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 06:05 PM (ilX37)
It's practice not brains. My dad loved math sexually. He got a job teaching math for a year before my mom graduated.
He would drill me with multiplication tables at dinner. Every frigging night. When foods on the line you learn fast. It just becomes 2nd nature.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:06 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:03 PM (3R4hO)
They absolutely do want Equality of Outcome.
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:06 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:06 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:06 PM
Levelers always level down.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:07 PM (jc0TO)
I also watched a lot of "The Electric Company" on PBS....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (IBQGV)
Easy Reader was the shiznit. And then he narrated a movie about penguins.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 06:08 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:06 PM
Boy928 learned to read from Leisure Suit Larry.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:08 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 06:01 PM (Q4IgG)
So we are going to set up a parallel private system of involuntary confinement?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 06:08 PM (AUL7F)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2025 06:08 PM (rvwwT)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:06 PM (iGK7y)
I always go back the ol' Orwell thing when it comes to these topics: All Pigs Are Equal... Some Pigs Are More Equal Than Others.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:08 PM (dGCAG)
Same here. And I learned "good grammar" from shit like Mark Twain. Look - English is extremely subjective. Its all about writing in whatever style pleases the screw in charge.
Posted by: John Rooney at June 20, 2025 06:09 PM (EL2O4)
Posted by: t-bird at June 20, 2025 06:10 PM (VfMZK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 06:10 PM (5xNsa)
Learning isn't linear.
All those "Teach Your Baby to Read" programs did not create a generation of super-literate Doogie Howsers.
Because concept recognition in early childhood development come in fits and spurts, with different cognitive levels developing at various age levels.
Are there outliers, sharp minds that can grasp advanced concepts at early ages? Sure there are.
But that works the other way, as well. There are people that should be able to understand concepts at a mature age, but still can't.
Just talk with a woman for 20 minutes and you will see this in action.
Posted by: Something to Consider at June 20, 2025 06:11 PM (H+njS)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:12 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: John Rooney at June 20, 2025 06:09 PM (EL2O4)
I learned me some talk goodery when I was younger, so I could goof around with it when I got older.
Sorta like how you're going to teach a kid how to hold a bat when he's a tot, but if he grows up to be Rod Carew or Stan Musial, he can hold the damn thing any way he wants.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:12 PM (dGCAG)
In about 5 years, you'll be able to buy a suite or la carte AI teaching programs:
Interactive avatars to teach either whole grade levels or single subjects.
The more complex ones will have the ability to gauge comprehension and engagement via the camera (plus other feedback), and adjust the program.
There's going to be a massive--and losing battle--by the teachers to prevent them from being accredited by the states.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 06:12 PM (rOVb5)
Bonus points: What is the name of the geometric shape formed by the two trains at that moment if you draw an imaginary straight line connecting the two train's engines?
Double Bonus points: By what geometric name is that imaginary straight line called?
Government Dependent points: How much in gubmint subsidies are required?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:12 PM (wVcYX)
I was too old when Sesame Street debuted in 1969.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:12 PM (rWvc2)
This is pure math and has no real physical meaning at all, because the pieces there are "unmeasurable", meaning the volume isn't defined. But's it's a crazy thing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 05:50 PM (w6EFb)
Well, sure there's always more numbers. The numbers divisible by a million are equivalent to regular numbers because they can be paired up, one for one with none missing or left out. But set theory stuff was always miscast for basic math for kids.
interestingly the number of points on a number line is larger than the set of integers, provably, tho both are infinite.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:13 PM (8avO+)
https://tinyurl.com/24xxxeju
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:13 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:06 PM (iGK7y
No. That's provable. When have you ever seen them want anything you can measure or prove?
You think they want their sons and daughters with the same "outcome" as some black person? Or you? Nope.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:13 PM (3R4hO)
These are people who got college credit for learning how to fingerpaint.
Posted by: PabloD at June 20, 2025 06:14 PM (jnp64)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:14 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: Sausage factories for the mind at June 20, 2025 06:14 PM (TbWk/)
With you on 12s. I often break the rest up.
13x7 is 10x7 + 3x7. 91.
Posted by: John Rooney at June 20, 2025 06:14 PM (EL2O4)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 06:14 PM (5xNsa)
I was always the last to finish. Nobody else got to do anything else until everyone was done. The pressure was immense, and did not help me to like it more or get faster.
Sorry, former classmates.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (h7ZuX)
My favorite math teacher was in nuclear power school. She was enthusiastic and interesting and covered the topics with great examples. The fact that she was a redhead as hot as the surface of the sun was just a bonus.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (ExV1e)
whoa ....
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)
Bonus points: What is the name of the geometric shape formed by the two trains at that moment if you draw an imaginary straight line connecting the two train's engines?
Double Bonus points: By what geometric name is that imaginary straight line called?
Government Dependent points: How much in gubmint subsidies are required?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:12 PM (wVcYX)
The train heading east from Union Station drowns in Lake Michigan in a few blocks.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Sausage factories for the mind at June 20, 2025 06:14 PM (TbWk/)
An instance of: the purpose of a system is what it does.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (AUL7F)
You think they want their sons and daughters with the same "outcome" as some black person? Or you? Nope.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:13 PM (3R4hO)
Believe what you want. The lefties talk about it.
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:16 PM (iGK7y)
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How about the whole "Baby Einstein" series?
LOL, how are parents that gullible?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 06:16 PM (rOVb5)
Interactive avatars to teach either whole grade levels or single subjects.
The more complex ones will have the ability to gauge comprehension and engagement via the camera (plus other feedback), and adjust the program.
There's going to be a massive--and losing battle--by the teachers to prevent them from being accredited by the states.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 06:12 PM (rOVb5)
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It's already happening. I was in a meeting today with a textbook company that is rolling out Student AI Assistants this fall. These are designed to guide students through the assigned textbook/exercises and remediate as needed to help students with comprehension using a Socratic method of instruction.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:16 PM (IBQGV)
But as ItC says in the following comment you know they are also trying to manipulate you.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 06:16 PM (YUL+W)
Sorry, former classmates.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (h7ZuX)
I liked when I was done. Gave me time to draw tanks, guns and planes in my notebook. I hated school.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (0aYVJ)
whoa ....
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)
Not in real life since neutrons have a essentially fixed size. A neutron star the size of 1 solar mass is larger than a pea, maybe a mile or two across IIRC.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:16 PM (iGK7y)
And we all know how honest they are!!
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (jc0TO)
These are people who got college credit for learning how to fingerpaint.
Posted by: PabloD at June 20, 2025 06:14 PM (jnp64)
I got a doctorate in education for classroom bulletin boards!
Posted by: Dr. Jill at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:18 PM (PCK5/)
Bonus points: What is the name of the geometric shape formed by the two trains at that moment if you draw an imaginary straight line connecting the two train's engines?
Double Bonus points: By what geometric name is that imaginary straight line called?
Government Dependent points: How much in gubmint subsidies are required?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:12 PM (wVcYX)
FUCK YOUR WORD PROBLEMS!!!!
*knocks over the desk*
Posted by: I hated these goddamn things. Still do. at June 20, 2025 06:18 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:18 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:19 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:16 PM (IBQGV)
I have done true AI in real life for a major project. I have no idea how this would be used in education in any meaningful sense. It was used to analyze results of scanned x ray images of trucks to see if they were empty or full on the border.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:19 PM (8avO+)
150 + 45
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:18 PM (rWvc2)
I was told there would be no math
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 06:19 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (jo6FO)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)
This is math class, not geography class.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (wVcYX)
It was shit like this that got me Saturday detention.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (PCK5/)
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Hey, those PHDs in Imaginary Anal Additive Transgender String White Supremacy Number Theory aren't gonna earn themselves, you know?
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (f7ucq)
Posted by: Oldcat at Jun
They need to stop using that darn GPS! Soooo unreliable!
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (nQcpu)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:16 PM (iGK7y)
And we all know how honest they are!!
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (3R4hO)
I saw a clip a year or two ago. Bernie was on some panel, and it was not a hostile setting by any means.
Someone asked him the difference between equality and equity, and he just shrugged and said "I dunno."
As if he didn't care. Because he doesn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (dGCAG)
Banach-Tarski paradox. It's a bizarre result of the Axiom of Choice when the sets are infinite.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM
I roll my eyes back like fucking Charlie-X.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2025 06:21 PM (ZmEVT)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (jc0TO)
The fly files for an hour, since the closing speed of the cars is 10 mph. Thus fly flew 37 miles.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:21 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (PCK5/)
I do the same thing.
With boobs and ass.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 06:21 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM
I roll my eyes back like fucking Charlie-X.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (jc0TO)
Right before you tear the surfer in half?
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:21 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 20, 2025 06:22 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (jc0TO)
The fly files for an hour, since the closing speed of the cars is 10 mph. Thus fly flew 37 miles.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:21 PM (8avO+)
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Is it an African or European fly? And is a coconut involved?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:23 PM (IBQGV)
Banach-Tarski paradox. It's a bizarre result of the Axiom of Choice when the sets are infinite.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (lIio7)
Now you're just making shit up to try to sound smarter.
Posted by: More like Banach-Tardski! at June 20, 2025 06:23 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)
This is math class, not geography class.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (wVcYX)
Then don't mention Chicago, just featureless plains. Kansas.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:23 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:17 PM (jc0TO)
10 miles
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:23 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:21 PM (8avO+)
Yeah no math really needed in that one.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:24 PM (rWvc2)
DOGE: Zero!
Lefty: All of them!
Biden: I like trains!
Schumer: Kickbacks!
Newsome: We need another 30 billion before either train goes anywhere!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2025 06:24 PM (rvwwT)
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By design. Eliminate the competition.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 06:24 PM (/CkK4)
Banach-Tarski paradox. It's a bizarre result of the Axiom of Choice when the sets are infinite.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (lIio7)
But what was the Sphere's " motivation" to split in half??
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:25 PM (PCK5/)
Is it an African or European fly? And is a coconut involved?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:23 PM (IBQGV)
Its a standard trick you learn with these impossible problems, is to convert from distance to time units. Then all the details become irrelevant.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:25 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:24 PM
I think it's a question in problem solving rather than a math problem.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:25 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:24 PM
I think it's a question in problem solving rather than a math problem.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:25 PM (jc0TO
Yes and a good one imo.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (rWvc2)
The one thing I'm suspicious of is that I suspect the real gap is greater than that recognized above. After all, who is testing the results? Does anyone trust Randi Weingarten to give out faithful and accurate numbers? Like the way that "gender" expert was so quick to release an inconvenient study?
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (od0dV)
She struggled up through 2nd grade. The big thing that changed for her was a traveling salesman who was selling a phonics based teaching kit. My parents bought it for her, and the 3 of us (Mom, Dad, and myself) helped her with it. I was REQUIRED to spend an hour every school day with her doing flashcards, reading, listening to the records (yes, they were all on vinyl).
Now, I think she can out read me when she wants to. And she is an ICU nurse (3 Masters Degrees), so I think she's done pretty good!
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM (e/Osv)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM
It made my children go Whoa and forever more try to see a problem from different angles.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (jc0TO)
[h/t Steven Wright]
BTW, I think I read where Einstein had a lot of breakthroughs using his visual imagination -- and one of them was this scenario where he pictured a particle oscillating in place, giving him the idea that light behaved as both a particle AND a wave.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (2o3HN)
Posted by: jsg at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (iGK7y)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (PCK5/)
What makes the difference is the state’s racial breakdown. OR and WA used to be Lilly white. So they had high scores. In the past decade they have both been diversified bigly. And now their tests are shit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (/CkK4)
'Open grounds, with walls and gates, where the goofies could roam around, family could come visit, and staff didn't have to do much more than just keep them from hurting themselves.'
And if they gave safari tours like in nature preserves, I bet it would pay for itself.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (3wi/L)
I feel the same way about the guys writing building codes. They never declare victory and move on to another job.
Posted by: Dad of Six at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (/Ya3c)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (PCK5/)
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Phonics is a helluva drug...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM
[ Bedlam has entered the chat ]
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (jc0TO)
It's vanity. The sphere thinks it's so great, the world is blessed to have two.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (5xNsa)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:26 PM
It made my children go Whoa and forever more try to see a problem from different angles.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (jc0TO)
My uncle loved to do the yes or no logic problems with me when I was a kid. Definitely made me think out of the box and use progressional reasoning to solve a problem.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:29 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: t-bird at June 20, 2025 06:30 PM (VfMZK)
I feel the same way about the guys writing building codes. They never declare victory and move on to another job.
Posted by: Dad of Six at June 20, 2025 06:28 PM (/Ya3c)
If you’ve never heard it find Adam Carolla’s rant on building codes. It’s magnificent.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 06:30 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 06:27 PM (2o3HN)
He also imagined the bending of time like a trampoline IIRC.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (rWvc2)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (wVcYX)
The correct answer is why the fuck are you taking the bus?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 06:32 PM (/CkK4)
So they reasoned: If the smart kids are just reading words "whole" at a glance, that must be what we must teach our slower-readers to do!
Bingo. This matches my observations.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 06:33 PM (rF2iL)
The story of my airline business trips. I'm 0 for 100 that a good looking woman sits next to me .
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 06:33 PM (rWvc2)
Chaos once again erupted at a New York City courthouse on Friday as ICE agents arrested an illegal alien at the Ted Weiss Federal Building.
A Democrat city councilwoman tried to block ICE agents from taking an illegal alien into custody.
Far-left ‘queer’ Councilwoman Tiffany Caban was almost arrested after she tried to block federal agents from removing an illegal alien.
Tiffany Caban was pushed back by federal agents as they escorted an illegal alien out of the courthouse.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 06:34 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)
This is math class, not geography class.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (wVcYX)
well I'll skip the size part, since there is none on the blog but the shape is a right triangle with equal legs since the largest angle is 90 degrees and the other diagonal line is the hypotenuse.
Of course since the actual surface is on a sphere the geometry is a bit different from Euclidean rules but not much. On a globe you can have a triangle with three right angles.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:35 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2025 06:36 PM (h7ZuX)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 06:36 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (wVcYX)
You offer Bertha your seat, like a gentleman and make one of the others take the other, while you stand
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:37 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: RebeccaH at June 20, 2025 06:37 PM (nnkjY)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 06:38 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 06:38 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 06:37 PM (8avO+)
Congratulations! I award you a Masters in Mathematics.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2025 06:39 PM (wVcYX)
Didn't work. Money isn't the problem.
Okay then, we'll take poor performing kids from poor schools and put them into rich schools.
Didn't work. The school is poor, and the kids not doing well, because the parenting and culture of the kids was not conducive to learning.
The successful strategy was make the schools hardcore, with uniforms, and strict rules. And toss out disruptive kids.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 20, 2025 06:40 PM (D1vbu)
Posted by: Joefrombako at June 20, 2025 06:44 PM (tAiFZ)
Tossing out disruptive kids?
Prison costs more than good schooling.
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 20, 2025 08:13 PM (gVnlU)
Robert Heinlein (PBUH), in the 80s, in his book Friday, mentioned this cargo-cultism. His example was, someone in California noticed that people with college degrees earned more than people without, so they gave everyone in the state a Bachelor's degree.
This happened during The Crazy Years.
Posted by: Rick C at June 20, 2025 08:55 PM (1zWbY)
Posted by: Mad Jojo at June 21, 2025 09:18 AM (jNdjL)
The New York Times is Boohoo Whinin' and Cryin' That Unrealistic Extremists in the ACLU Brought the Tennessee Trans Case to the Supreme Court and Lost Bigly
The article is trying to be nice to their trans allies, but the general thrust is that these people are so isolated in their progressive trans bubbles that they have no idea of what the rest of the country thinks about their extremist crusade to sexually mutilate children.
It's a long, long, super-long article. I'll just quote the parts where the NY Times hints that maybe the trans movement is too strident and delusionary for its own good. Note the article talks a lot about the transgender lawyer who argued the case for the ACLU. "Chase Strangio" -- super-realistic name there, "Chase," totally sounds like your parents gave you that name and totally not like you just went through YA Novels looking for "kewl" teenager names -- is actually a woman, though she dresses like a man and really thinks she's passing. I'll try to change the incorrect pronouns he/him/his to she/her/hers, but if I miss any, well, I tried. If this is too long for you: The main point that true-blue Super Liberal Propagandist Nicholas Confessore is making is that the trans movement is extremist and refuses to see any nuance on any issue and is determined to just ride roughshod over all those who question the Strange New World they're trying to will into being. They went too far in going after the kids like they're shrimp cocktail at a wedding reception, and by doing so, they have put their own movement and the entire Democrat-Media Party in a precarious place they may not be able to get out of.How the Transgender Rights Movement Bet on the Supreme Court and LostSo absurd. You know they're desperate when they break out, for the thousandth time, "You have to support transgenders because the next step is banning condoms!" card.
The inside story of the case that could set the movement back a generation.
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court delivered a new, crushing blow, upholding Tennessee's ban in a 6-to-3 decision. In allowing Tennessee to outlaw blockers and hormones, the court not only shielded similar laws on the books in some two dozen states. It effectively closed the door on extending new constitutional protections to trans people. Some advocates fear that Skrmetti could open the door to banning medical transition for adults and perhaps other health care that some conservatives oppose, like birth control or in vitro fertilization -- even vaccines.
The fate of a once-obscure medical treatment could have profound consequences for American law. What makes the defeat all the more striking is the remarkable string of victories the broader L.G.B.T.Q. movement was winning until a few years ago....Wait, you mean the public doesn't overwhelmingly support the sexual mutilation of mentally-ill children with a statistically-unlikely tendency towards autism? You mean, the "bigots" draw the line when you go after the children -- a line you cannot help but cross and cross and cross some more because the only thing you care about is getting those children while they're young? Anyway.
But with Skrmetti, the movement bet its future on a far more fraught question: whether children have a constitutional right to treatments that halt and redirect their physical adolescence.
... In challenging these laws, L.G.B.T.Q. groups and the Biden administration hoped not only to expand transgender rights, but to protect medical treatments that many trans people view as lifesaving. Yet in conversations this year with dozens of legal experts, activists, and other veterans of the fight for L.G.B.T.Q. equality, I encountered deep apprehension that taking Tennessee to the nation's highest court had been a strategic error -- one symptomatic of broader problems. In private meetings of L.G.B.T.Q. legal-advocacy groups, many lawyers expected a loss almost from the moment the court agreed to hear the case, according to one person briefed on the conversations. On the outside, I heard rising criticism of the strategic and political judgments animating the A.C.L.U.'s litigation -- muted by fear that voicing those criticisms more openly, amid the depredations of Trump's second term, would only give the right more ammunition. "There are a lot of conversations happening right now," said Dana Beyer, a physician and longtime trans activist in Maryland. "People know the movement is stuck. They know we've gone too far. They know we've lost the thread." ...Whoa, wait a tic -- are you saying the Science is Not Settled on the sexual mutilation of children?
Others, however, saw the Skrmetti case as a tragic gamble built on flawed politics and uncertain science.
Over the last decade, they told me, the movement was consumed by theories of sex and gender that most voters didn't grasp or support, radicalizing its politics just as the culture wars reignited and the Supreme Court began moving further right. And as Skrmetti and other lawsuits made their way through federal courts, some of the central medical claims girding the legal case for pediatric gender treatments -- that decades of thorough study had found them to be safe and effective -- began to unravel amid growing scrutiny by other doctors and experts. Last summer, thousands of emails and other documents released in a case challenging Alabama's ban raised further questions about medical standards at the heart of the A.C.L.U.'s lawsuit against Tennessee. "This case exposes a lot of ethical problems in the practice of medicine," a law professor with expertise in sex-discrimination law told me, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of blowback from students and colleagues.An expert just told this fake reporter that there are ethical problems in the trans "medicine" racket -- and this "reporter" had no follow up question! No further questions occurred to him! Or he did ask -- but chooses to hide the answer from readers. You know, like a real reporter hides information instead of publishing it.
The article talks about the "Dutch protocol" and early medical approval of gender transitioning -- but only after extensive psychiatric analysis and counseling and the determination that there was little other choice. The Dutch Protocol was quickly abandoned and kids were transitioned just for saying "I'm trans" at a single "consultation."
"For Skrmetti to be the next step in a progress narrative -- an incrementalist would say, This is way far from where we ought to be."
Along the road to Skrmetti, some believe, the L.G.B.T.Q. movement drove itself toward a cliff -- and took the Democratic Party with it, chaining the Biden administration to one of the most divisive issues in American politics at a moment of shifting medical consensus and fierce polarization. "It's one of the biggest mistakes in the history of trans activism," said Brianna Wu, a trans woman who serves on the board of Rebellion PAC, a Democratic political-action committee.
They have preyed on autistic children searching for answers about why they don't fit in, and mentally-ill children who really just needed someone to talk to.
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It was right as this new consensus was emerging that gender clinicians began to see a sharp rise in adolescent patients, most of them female at birth. Most had not reported gender distress until their early teens, after beginning to develop physical signs of puberty. A disproportionate number had other mental-health conditions, such as autism or depression.
... Within activist circles, though, that idea began to give way to a concept called self-ID, rooting gender identity in bodily autonomy. Activists argued that all people had the right to determine their own gender, regardless of how they dressed or whether they opted for medical transition. Your self-identified gender -- not your physical body -- should determine what appeared on your driver's license and which bathrooms you could access. In the wider culture, concepts of gender were becoming dizzyingly capacious, even confused. Challenging the idea of a rigid male-female binary, academic theorists detached gender from sex entirely, then reimagined it as an infinite spectrum. By the mid-2010s, when Time magazine declared that America had reached a "transgender tipping point," a trans person might identify as male, female or neither. The gender of a "gender fluid" person might shift from month to month, or day to day. The phrase "sex assigned at birth" -- originally devised to classify babies born with ambiguous genitalia or other rare congenital disorders -- was now employed to suggest that biological sex was arbitrary, even a kind of fiction. Gender, not sex, was the inherent quality. This new understanding of gender fueled rising calls to change how doctors approached medical transition. Critics inside and outside the medical establishment argued that overzealous "gate-keeping," like extended psychological assessments, stigmatized trans people and slowed their access to hormones or surgery. In 2013, the American Psychiatric Association eliminated the formal diagnosis of "gender identity disorder," with its suggestion of pathology, and replaced it with gender dysphoria, a diagnosis with looser criteria. A few years later, WPATH issued a position statement that treatments for dysphoria were a "medical necessity," the term used by insurers to categorize care they will cover.If "experts" are just deferring to a little mentally-ill kid's self-ID as trans, then what the fuck do we even have experts for? As Corporal Hudson said of the 9-year-old Newt: "Why don't you just put her in charge??!"
In the relatively small community of pediatric gender medicine, physicians increasingly advocated a "gender-affirming" approach, in which clinicians should generally defer to a child's self-declared identity.
Parents got sick of "experts" with their own sick agenda pressuring them by promising dead kids unless you submit.
Some doctors, citing the risk of suicidal thoughts and behavior among trans youths, argued that failing to affirm a child's expressed gender would put their life in danger. "We often ask parents, 'Would you rather have a dead son than a live daughter?'" Johanna Olson-Kennedy, one of the country's leading gender physicians, told ABC News.
Obviously: these are not medical outcomes. "Gender euphoria" is not a medical goal, nor is turning children's bodies into "gendered art pieces" that can be shaped through hormones and butchery. This was an entirely political effort towards a bizarre end that resembles a Joker plot more than medicine.
By then, practitioners like Olson-Kennedy were arguing that trans-identifying children -- even those whose dysphoria might be entwined with other mental-health problems -- didn't need extended psychological assessments any more than trans adults did. ("I don't send someone to a therapist when I'm going to start them on insulin," she told The Atlantic in 2018.) Some doctors and activists went further. In a 2019 journal article, the trans bioethicist Florence Ashley argued that trans people, including "older teenagers," should not require a formal diagnosis of dysphoria before gaining access to cross-sex hormones. Rather than relieving supposed distress, Ashley wrote, patients might be seeking "gender euphoria" or "creative transfiguration," which "sees the body as a gendered art piece that can be made ours through transition-related interventions."
So what I hear this woman saying is that she doesn't care about the kids per se, just using the bodies of kids to force her weird ideas of "liberation from the sexual binary" on to the public. Once you convince a boy to lop off his dick, you own his parents for life, don't you? The parent could never, ever admit to himself for one second that he was snookered and sacrificed his child on the bloody altar of woke extremism, could he? The parent could never admit to himself he let his boy mutilate himself over a lie. No, once you get that parent to agree to mutilate his child, you own that parent for life. He can never even allow himself to suspect the trans extremist cause is anything less than holy. Here's an example of Strangio's extremism in action:
For Chase Strangio, the stakes were both personal and political.HeShe joined the A.C.L.U. in 2013, a few years after undergoing top surgery, or a mastectomy, a procedure that "saved my life," as he later wrote. "When you spend your life hiding from yourself, experiencing embodiment is nourishing, exhilarating," Strangio wrote. "It is survival." He vowed to work "to create social, political and legal conditions so that others could experience the same possibility." Like Strangio, the younger people going to work at L.G.B.T.Q. groups leaned further left than their older colleagues. Often identifying as queer -- a label that could connote radical politics as much as any sexual or gender identity -- they resented the incremental, assimilationist politics that had won the right to same-sex marriage. They sought to deconstruct assumptions about what was normal -- to dismantle bourgeois institutions, not seek inclusion in them. Strangio wrestled with how to achieve justice for trans and other marginalized people through a system she believed was designed to subjugate them. In interviews and on social media, she has described himself as "a constitutional lawyer who fundamentally doesn't believe in the Constitution," an L.G.B.T.Q. activist who felt his movement was overly devoted to gay white men with "social power and capital and political power" and to the "fundamentally violent institution of civil marriage." The turn to trans rights would ultimately reopen an old fissure in the L.G.B.T.Q. movement: whether to seek civic equality -- or liberation.
These are revolutionaries that seek nothing short of the overthrow of biological and physical reality. And the Democrat-Media Party embraced their madness, and now finds itself tied to them and unable to cut itself free.
In 2016, North Carolina passed legislation requiring people to use bathrooms and locker rooms reserved for their "biological sex," setting off the country's first major clash over transgender rights. When a coalition of L.G.B.T.Q. groups began planning an ad campaign, message testing showed that most people were unfamiliar with the movement's terminology and the physical realities of being trans; the phrase "assigned male at birth" left audiences confused and skeptical. To win them over, the coalition created ads featuring a trans woman with long hair and conventionally feminine clothing. In a spot that first aired on Fox News, the woman is barred from a restaurant bathroom by an angry manager, who backs down after two other women -- messaging "validators" the audience could relate to -- intercede. "I was born with a male body," the trans woman says in a voice-over. "But inside, I always knew I was female." More than 20 L.G.B.T.Q. rights groups signed on to the messaging plan. The A.C.L.U. did not. Strangio, working on an A.C.L.U. team suing North Carolina, objected to the framing. According to two people present for the discussion, Strangio disputed that a trans woman could be "born with a male body" or "born male"; in her view, a trans woman was born a woman just like any other woman. There was no such thing as a "male body," Strangio told her colleagues: "A penis is not a male body part. It's just an unusual body part for a woman." Before the advertisement aired, Strangio elaborated on his critique in an article in Slate. "Many advocates defend the use of the 'born male' or 'born with a male body' narrative as being easier for nontransgender people to understand," Strangio wrote. "Of course it is easier to understand, since it reinforces deeply entrenched views about what makes a man and what makes a woman. But it is precisely these views that we must change."
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:21 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 04:23 PM (AOguU)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 20, 2025 04:23 PM (SqW3/)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (AOguU)
Do they happen to mention what would be a good level of stridency and delusion?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 04:25 PM (jvJvP)
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Of course they claim the "transitioned" son is dead anyway so you actually end up with some strange hybrid of the two things. Even the *pretense* of their false choice is itself a lie.
Takes some real magic to lie about a lie about a lie but somehow they manage it.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:25 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 04:26 PM (AOguU)
Everyone's who's not insane.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 04:26 PM (Q4IgG)
https://tinyurl.com/4yc5y9rj
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 20, 2025 04:26 PM (M0V4/)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:26 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 04:27 PM (viF8m)
It is indeed. Glad we cleared that up.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 04:27 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 04:28 PM (AOguU)
By jove...
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 20, 2025 04:28 PM (M0V4/)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 04:28 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (jc0TO)
This reminds me of the heller 2nd amendment case that the nra didn't want to go to SCOTUS because they were afraid they would not rule that the 2nd was an individual right and they would lose all sorts of donations they were getting to fight the "good fight". Sometimes you do not get what you want.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (e5NfL)
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If these medical treatments are "lifesaving", why is the suicide rate among trannies so high?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 04:30 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 20, 2025 04:30 PM (Ft5W9)
It's good that they are acknowledging these would have been new protections. The usual stance is that these transsexual protections have always existed, if you read the Declaration of Independence in the right manner, but people were too bigoted to realize it sooner.
Posted by: PG at June 20, 2025 04:30 PM (afPT4)
Literally everyone else: And?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (2GCMq)
Meanwhile, the Ontario heathcare system is still stalling on attaching my second penis...
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM
I am so disappointed in you.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (jc0TO)
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Well, duhhhh.
- Stuff Thomas Jefferson Said, Vol. 19
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (+BYq9)
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Its a false set of choices. Once a son, he will always be a son, whether live or dead.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Half a cocktail weenie.
Oh, how I use'ta dream of having half a cocktail weenie...
Posted by: Poorly-Hung Yorkshireman at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (KRtlO)
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Suicide rate for transed people and untransed with gender euphoria are identical.
Instead, maybe try treating the real issue that causes the confusion instead.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (8avO+)
R and the NYT, LGBTQWERT, and the ACLU can suck a wet greasy turd out of my asshole.Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (17s+e)
LOL. More like tran activism is the biggest mistake in trans activism. You guys have a gift for turning people who didn't care into mortal enemies.
That's why I didn't go on a shooting spree when you had canceled for refusing to pretend transwomen are women. I knew your movement was doomed.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (ciYHQ)
Girls have a vagina.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Could you email this to Justice Ketanji?
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (v0R5T)
Wasn't bad.
Posted by: Snooty Theatre Critic at June 20, 2025 04:32 PM (hOyR5)
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Well, duhhhh.
- Stuff Thomas Jefferson Said, Vol. 19
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Well, duhhhhh.
- Stuff Mr. Jefferson Said in Front of Wheezy, Episode 19
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:32 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM
I am so disappointed in you.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (jc0TO)
I always picture him wearing a bowler hat with the card tucked under the band on one side.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:32 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Adirondack Patrriot at June 20, 2025 04:32 PM (zG9tE)
I don't practice Santeria
>>Jake Tapper's Magic 8-Ball
I ain't got no crystal ball.
Feel the break.
https://tinyurl.com/msvc4wp6
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 04:32 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 04:33 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 04:33 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: far cry at June 20, 2025 04:33 PM (icg0u)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 04:33 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Jamie Farr at June 20, 2025 04:33 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM
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I call myself Jukin on Ace of Spades bu, seriously, I am also called Jukin in real life! Because that has been my nickname for 35 years.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 04:33 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM
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Worst news since learning about Santa.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM (2bFN5)
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM (mcWkK)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM (+BYq9)
Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM
I am so disappointed in you.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:31 PM (jc0TO)
I always picture him wearing a bowler hat with the card tucked under the band on one side.
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I assumed he looks like Lemmy....back when Lemmy was still alive.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: far cry at June 20, 2025 04:33 PM (icg0u)
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The Oxford Period?
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (mcWkK)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (jc0TO)
They aren't into thinking about the consequences rationally.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM
His visage was once likened to that of a hairy mumbling gourd.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (2UnvF)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (jc0TO)
They aren't into thinking about the consequences rationally.
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See? Once a woman, always a woman!
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM
Ace of Spades would be preferable to "Ace Strangio".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Can you imagine what assholes they would be if they thought they were anti-Christian?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (jc0TO)
They aren't into thinking about the consequences rationally.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (8avO+)
She was oddly cute in "Hard Candy."
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Adirondack Patrriot at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (zG9tE)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (PCK5/)
So its a mental condition obviously that is not being addressed.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (rvwwT)
yeah he did, after Ripley said "This little girl survived for three months (or whatever) with no training or weapons."
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM
Ace Stranglio though...
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (jc0TO)
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Suicide rate for transed people and untransed with gender euphoria are identical.
Instead, maybe try treating the real issue that causes the confusion instead.
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Dead Son.
because:
A) we don't negotiate with terrorists
B) the crazy dies with them
If you gibve in to These mentally stunted midwits once it's like giving a mouse a cookie - they learn one trick works and never bother with another, so every time they are told no "then I'll have to KKKKKIIIIILLLLL myself" is the default answer.
I ain't dealing with that shit. Go out the window so I can finish making dinner.
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (F/35S)
Posted by: Oh never mind at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (VpV7B)
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Randi Weingarten actually wanted to open the schools, you know.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (rWsXW)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:32 PM (8avO+)
My image of Ace is a furry Ewok with a spear and a messenger bag hunting hobos in a old growth rain forest.
Posted by: Beartooth at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (8wKVG)
Posted by: far cry at June 20, 2025 04:33 PM (icg0u)
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The Oxford Period?
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By the time Vance is concluding his 2nd term, I'm hoping that we've rid the nation of most of its other problems and can THEN go after those bastards that don't use the Oxford Comma.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (TN0g+)
Do you mean to imply that there are enemies within the party?
Once you start purging the trans, what other colors of the Rainbow Flag disappear?
Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (j4U/Z)
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So they're pro-Christian?
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (3R4hO)
She was too cute and small and was probably passed around Hollywood like a pack of Kools in a prison block. I can only guess at the horrors she had to endure, and probably she hates and is repulsed by her female body that attracted monsters so much. I feel for her, and wish she'd had someone around her to help her and heal her and protect her.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (KRtlO)
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In other words, we deplorables are just too dumb to understand the nuances of gender and sexual identity.
We REQUIRE experts to explain it to us as if we were five-year-old non-binary children.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 04:38 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (VpV7B)
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Given their performance WRT covid, I'd give it four years.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 20, 2025 04:38 PM (XZ5S6)
As a matter of fact the gender of someone is their gender.
People are always changing things to meet their delusions because they are in fact crazy. Why even pay attention to them?
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 04:38 PM (ilX37)
I need you sooo
But this you know
The Cars transitioning into The Yachts to make, you know, yacht music
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 20, 2025 04:38 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: Craig Pirrong at June 20, 2025 04:38 PM (vFerH)
So its a mental condition obviously that is not being addressed.
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Biggest mistake Reagan ever made was closing the asylums
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at June 20, 2025 04:38 PM (F/35S)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (jc0TO)
They aren't into thinking about the consequences rationally.
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See? Once a woman, always a woman!
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:36 PM (TN0g+)
I was thinking Lunatics, myself, incase the ettes get sporty with you Crusader.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:38 PM (8avO+)
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what we're gonna see, but none of it is gonna work because the receipts are too easy to find and people have them backed up all over.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:39 PM (VpV7B)
Good name for a character in a novel who's a Jeffrey Dahmer type, though.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 04:39 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM
Weirdly to hear her tell it, she was lesbian raped on a shoot, and apparently enjoyed it enough to switch teams.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:39 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 04:39 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (j4U/Z)
Apparently, the trans are trying to purge the gay. Not sure what color of the “rainbow” gay is supposed to be.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 20, 2025 04:39 PM (TJLr1)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2025 04:39 PM (rvwwT)
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Homos mainly propagate by conversion. The younger the easier the conversion.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 04:40 PM (yTAax)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:40 PM (t0Rmr)
Never defeated, never lost, no self-reflection to reconsider the lunacy. Just a set-back, as the revolution always marches on.
Posted by: CNN Panel of Dunces at June 20, 2025 04:40 PM (CMN1T)
Posted by: Word Nerd at June 20, 2025 04:40 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Candidus at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (CMN1T)
_______
In real life, isn't it something in Ewok?
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (od0dV)
"They have preyed on autistic children searching for answers about why they don't fit in, and mentally-ill children who really just needed someone to talk to."
Glad I'm Gen X.
When they say they want to delay puberty, how does that work, exactly.
You go through it when you're in your 30s or something? Won't that be a bit of an issue?
These people are sick. How about that trans rights pedo at Vanderbilt that's still roaming and predating upon children, hiding in lain sight.
I don't hear much about the Catholic priests anymore, is that because what they were doing was mild compared to these idiots?
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (et1vG)
Well, this one is tougher to about face on, because they have gone so crazy and put SO much of their core values into it. And then there's the unspeakable horror of what was done to children in the name of "rights" and "protecting a minority". They're so associated with this its going to take a major event and a major charismatic leader to get them to turn around.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: pookysgirl, also a fan at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (3uH3d)
As a matter of fact the gender of someone is their gender.
People are always changing things to meet their delusions because they are in fact crazy. Why even pay attention to them?
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 04:38 PM (ilX37)
All words are made up, Case.
but its a pretty standard compounding used in science. Trans is 'across' in Latin
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:37 PM (3R4hO)
Pro "Jesus agrees with every political stand I have" and I'm thrilled to sing "I'm f'ing trans. God loves me this way" as their worship song of the day
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Candidus at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (CMN1T)
He prefers his name not to be spoken aloud.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 04:40 PM (yTAax).
Only because it's less effort to hold them down.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (3R4hO)
Portland: Neighbors Welcome
@pnwelcome.bsky.social
Every additional home we build in Portland is one more home for a family who needs to access gender-affirming care.
If Oregon wants to be a sanctuary for LGTBQ+ Americans, we simply must build more housing for everyone who wants (and needs) to call Oregon home.
A vast wave of trannies is currently heading West on the Oregon Trail, heading for the Promised Land...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (xTIDn)
*pops popcorn*.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (W2Pud)
yup
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (KRtlO)
Nature is healing.
Posted by: And horny at June 20, 2025 04:43 PM (hOyR5)
This is an ACLU attorney. No one special. But, the "I want attention" gene is strong in this one. Think about how self-absorbed and mentally deficient you must be to have the drive to foster such attention.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 04:43 PM (dIske)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 04:43 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (et1vG)
They were just fucking the altar boys, not making them think they were girls, chopping their dicks off, then fucking them.
Posted by: Still evil but lesser-ish? at June 20, 2025 04:43 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM (2bFN5)
What? What happened to Santa?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:43 PM (i24o9)
noooooo
wouldn't have been funny, Ripley was essentially in charge that point. Well, she was sharing command with Hicks.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (KRtlO)
I kinda feel sorry for trans men. We had one in our DnD group. She was working so hard to grow stuble, unaware that she'll never be a man. He'll, most men struggle to achieve manhood. And we start getting tested at age 10 or 12. Lessons about not ratting out your friends, all the alpha wolf games, some of us have to learn to avoid violence because we're so big (not me lol) that one punch could accidentally kill someone one. We also learn that everything is backed by the threat of violence. YYou get out of line, you're going to get popped.
There's no makeup tests for these trials. So there's no way a woman can be a man.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (ciYHQ)
Many of them will die of dysentery, of course.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (xTIDn)
Page was in 5 fairly big movies and a several smaller movies a year as a woman and since mutilating herself has been in a handful of small documentaries about mutilating herself.
I suspect though this is a reaction to being molested as a young actress. "If only I was a man they couldn't hurt me this way"
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 04:40 PM (yTAax).
This is why people like Scott Weiner of CA are always trying to de-criminalize pedos. They entered the lifestyle via a chickenhawk, and look forward to chicken-hawking themselves someday.
Posted by: Candidus at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (CMN1T)
You go through it when you're in your 30s or something? Won't that be a bit of an issue?
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at June 20, 2025 04:41 PM (et1vG)
It works as any lie works. "Never" is a delay from happening naturally. You take those drugs and you never develop normally. You are twisted till death, and lots of cascade problems result because quite a bit of the human body is designed to go through puberty and throwing a wrench into it like a demented ape isn't wise.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (8avO+)
The fate of a once-obscure medical treatment could have profound consequences for American law.
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They made it non-obscure, and wouldn't shut up about it.
("Medical treatment?" It's mutilation and child abuse.)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (g3j/k)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM
She conveniently knocked him unconscious to seize command.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM (2bFN5)
What? What happened to Santa?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:43 PM (i24o9)
Santa is now Santina.
Posted by: Identifies as a gay female reindeer at June 20, 2025 04:45 PM (TbWk/)
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Which is exactly why parents of transgenders should not be given any platform to plead, testify, try to persuade, or any voice on any media platform. They are the farthest thing from objective and will never be objective for the rest of their lives. They would sooner kill people than admit that they mutilated their child for politics. Cuz if they ever realized that's what they did, they'd just about have to kill themselves...
Posted by: bearski at June 20, 2025 04:45 PM (Bhsk7)
He prefers his name not to be spoken aloud.
Posted by: toby928
And definitely not three times in a row.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 04:45 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (t0Rmr)
Gaining 100 pounds would have been safer, and reversable.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:45 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 04:34 PM (2bFN5)
What? What happened to Santa?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:43 PM
Last I saw he was kidnapped. There is a movie on amazon about it....red one.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 20, 2025 04:45 PM (e5NfL)
Its even worse than that. Every child is still figuring out who they are, and what it even MEANS to be a boy or a girl. They are learning and studying and finding things out, learning limitations and strengths, advantages and drawbacks. Worse, they are extremely vulnerable to the simplest manipulation because they have no wisdom to know how it works out, or experience facing that.
So kids are bombarded with wonderful rainbow glittery support for trannies and weirdos. They get special days, and special weeks and special presentations, and big posters and speeches, and hugs and are treated wonderfully special.
OR you can be just a regular child that is forgotten and gets nothing special and nobody gives you a gift for BEING normal.
Which of those two choices will many children pick, just to get the goodies?
Its like giving a child two choices: a stack of 1 dollar bills or one 100 dollar bill. They'll go for the larger number without understanding what it means.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:46 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 04:46 PM (VofaG)
He prefers his name not to be spoken aloud.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (jc0TO)
You have to translate it to French and then speak it in the Khoisan click language for him to even deign to recognize your presence.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:46 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: bearski at June 20, 2025 04:45 PM (Bhsk7)
Some were unwillingly put into that category.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:46 PM (8avO+)
boy you guys are really disappointing me. Hicks wasn't unconscious, Lieutenant Gorman was.
I think some transgenders have unmasked themselves because all real men know Aliens.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:47 PM (KRtlO)
I don't hear much about the Catholic priests anymore, is that because what they were doing was mild compared to these idiots?
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Diddler Priests were(are) a real problem; the bigger problem was the lineage and prosperity of the Catholic church.
You've not gonna get cash outta Reverand Mikey Luther Kangs 'church' set up in an abandoned 7-11 or any of the 700 different Protestant denominations. So they sue the only one with money.
And also - statistically, WAYYYYY more teachers touch kids, but that Union is owned by the DNC so they get a pass.
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at June 20, 2025 04:47 PM (F/35S)
I said it three times in a mirror once, and an Ewok appeared behind me and bit me in the knee.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:47 PM (VpV7B)
I think some transgenders have unmasked themselves because all real men know Aliens.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:47 PM
Dammit, you're right.
I'll just go out and come back in again.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:48 PM (jc0TO)
Eh, that's not really ironclad either. The appeal to Hollywood MAPs is extreme youth and innocence - as many a chubby or male child star could attest.
Dan Schneider tried to get Jennette McCurdy to have sex with him, but he also cast Noah Munck topless as often as he could...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:48 PM (t0Rmr)
This is ridiculous.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:48 PM (KRtlO)
Every time a teacher gets convicted of pedo activities, the posts on X are full of idiots reminding everyone the real problem is Catholic Priests.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 04:49 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 04:49 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2025 04:49 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (xTIDn)
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And velociraptors.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 20, 2025 04:49 PM (XZ5S6)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:49 PM (KRtlO)
We often ask parents, 'Would you rather have a dead son than a live daughter?'" Johanna Olson-Kennedy, one of the country's leading gender physicians, told ABC News.
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I'd rather have a dead fake doctor.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2025 04:49 PM (g3j/k)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (3R4hO)
We can't blame Weinstein for this one.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (jc0TO)
I think that's exactly it. She was a cutie that sadly fits really well into the pedo niche: slim, young looking, short.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (Riz8t)
And yet if I call for a nationwide punishment of death for any adult that has sex with a pre-pubscent child the left says I'm an anti-tranny bigot.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (t0Rmr)
*pops popcorn*.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 04:42 PM (W2Pud)
Almost as fun as asking if an overweight one is pregnant.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:47 PM
Dammit, you're right.
I'll just go out and come back in again.
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Wearing a party dress, heels and too much mascara no doubt...
Posted by: Seriously. at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (FuNJ6)
Like MST3K, only with good movies and funny commenters.
Posted by: Candidus at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (CMN1T)
I gotta be honest, the only two I remember is Hicks and Hudson.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Khoisan with a lip plate at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (v0R5T)
This is ridiculous.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:48 PM (KRtlO
Oh crap. Can I substitute a different movie ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (VofaG)
Apod? something uncommon
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (rvwwT)
Hey, you aren't talking in code names are you?
Posted by: harvey Weinstein's Ficus at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:43 PM (i24o9)
__________________________
Some dyslexic kid in Oklahoma accidentally sent a letter to Satan instead of Santa. Santa went down to retrieve it and ran into what they call "stripper pole hell". He had a little cash, so he didn't think it would be a problem to hang out for a little bit. He met this chick named Anna and they hit it off (nothing untoward), had a bite to eat which turned out to be Mexican food.
Next thing Anna and Santa had a little flatulence issue. And, now California is getting hammered with the Santa Anna Winds.
Other than that, he got the letter. The kid in Oklahoma got his GI Joe with the Kung Fu Grip, and Ms. Clause has no idea.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (pI9a0)
And yet if I call for a nationwide punishment of death for any adult that has sex with a pre-pubscent child the left says I'm an anti-tranny bigot.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (t0Rmr)
The issues in the Church exploded in number when they let gay priests in in the 70s.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM
wait wait wait
So your name is Lamont?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 20, 2025 04:52 PM (7KTzQ)
Can the rest of us lurk and read?
Walk up to a real woman at a trans activist rally and congratulate her on her transition and how great she looks.
You're right, its like telling one of those "LIZZO IS A TEN" women she looks like Lizzo.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:52 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 04:52 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:52 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Rockin' Mel Slurp at June 20, 2025 04:53 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:53 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 04:53 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 04:53 PM (fV+MH)
We can't blame Weinstein for this one.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:50 PM (jc0TO)
We can if she was on his staff.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:54 PM (8avO+)
yup
>>How about if I've watched Wickerman more than once. Can I retain my posting privileges?
i have to watch that one of these days. I think I have it on my Tubi list.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:54 PM (KRtlO)
Let me help.
https://youtu.be/nWglfC5CNS4
Posted by: J. Peterman at June 20, 2025 04:54 PM (hOyR5)
I guess he did his own reloading.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:54 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 04:55 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 20, 2025 04:55 PM (qBdHI)
Posted by: Fred G. Sanford at June 20, 2025 04:55 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Frank Luger at June 20, 2025 04:55 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 04:55 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Fenrisulven at June 20, 2025 04:44 PM (ciYHQ)
word
Posted by: Henry Higgins at June 20, 2025 04:55 PM (7KTzQ)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:48 PM (t0Rmr)
Yeah, the topless crap was weird.
And 'Zoey 101' was like softcore for tweenagers.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 04:55 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 04:56 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Heh at June 20, 2025 04:56 PM (nrenH)
Apone or something like that? The drill sargeant type
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:56 PM (VpV7B)
Like MST3K, only with good movies and funny commenters.
Posted by: Candidus at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (CMN1T)
Good movies tend to pull you in to watching them and not commenting.
Critical Drinker had a review series on good movies (like Wrath of Khan, say) and they commonly just kept watching. He had to set an alarm to comment.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:56 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so
Years ago when the pedo-priest thing was in full swing, I read that for rates of sexual abuse, the safest place for a kid to be was in the presence of clergy. Then law enforcement, doctors, etc etc. Then teachers. The least-safe place was among their own family.
Though with all the stories of (female) teachers boinking their (male) students lately, those last two may have switched places since I read it.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2025 04:56 PM (DgGvY)
I don't think this is true. McCurdy made allegations against, "The Creator" including pressuring her to drink when she was 18, shoulder massages, and making her wear a bikini when she was 15.
She made various allegations "The Creator" was mean and controlling and made people do up to seven re-takes. Good thing she never worked for Kubrick!
She made various allegations about scenes with "sexual undertones."
I don't think she alleged he tried to have sex with her.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 04:57 PM (lIio7)
This is ridiculous.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:48 PM (KRtlO
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Uh, oh.
Sounds like ace has his banhammer out and ready and he ain't afraid to use it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 04:57 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Private Eye at June 20, 2025 04:58 PM (hOyR5)
Setting the movement "BACK"? Sexually mutilation of children ... there is no "FORWARD" to that "movement". It should be set back (toward sanity) forever.
The problem is not that straight Christians don't understand their malicious perversions, it IS a problem (for the perverts) that Christians and other sane people DO understand their malice and perversions.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 04:58 PM (vbXSk)
The trans are getting so delusional that Big Mike is saying he actually gave birth.
Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2025 04:58 PM (j4U/Z)
You're right, its like telling one of those "LIZZO IS A TEN" women she looks like Lizzo.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:52 PM (VpV7B)
Saw a callback video of the fat activists of 2020 or so. Unsurprisingly, many of them are already dead.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:58 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2025 04:59 PM (u82oZ)
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"Whenever he says anything your say 'right'... you know that Brett?
Right"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 04:59 PM (Q4IgG)
This is ridiculous.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:48 PM (KRtlO
Oh crap. Can I substitute a different movie ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (VofaG)
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*decides not to bother, and let the thread stay Prometheus-free*
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 20, 2025 04:59 PM (7KTzQ)
Razorfist said it best:
RazörFist (@RAZ0RFIST)
No trans chick ever discovers their "real name" is Gertrude or Hortense.
It's always Sapphire or Venus or Democracy or some shit.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 20, 2025 05:00 PM (lCHt6)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 20, 2025 05:00 PM (AcTAo)
Posted by: DanMan at June 20, 2025 05:00 PM (8uzBS)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:00 PM (VpV7B)
If [she] says yes, run your finger over her upper lip.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2025 05:00 PM (u82oZ)
Alexander "Al" Apone
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 05:01 PM (jvJvP)
Private Vasquez: No. Have you?
I assume this is another quote I'm supposed to know.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:02 PM (VofaG)
@rawsalerts
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1m
🚨#BREAKING: Pakistan nominates President Donald Trump for 2026 Nobel Peace Prize
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 05:02 PM (viF8m)
It's like when Mark Harmon WAS Ted Bundy.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:02 PM (jc0TO)
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Yeah, what a nutcase.
Posted by: Carlos Danger at June 20, 2025 05:03 PM (8RvIK)
Like MST3K, only with good movies and funny commenters.
Posted by: Candidus at June 20, 2025 04:51 PM (CMN1T)
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Amazon Prime has a group watching comment thingy. Not sure how it works.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 05:04 PM (yTAax)
Posted by: Stinky B.O. at June 20, 2025 05:05 PM (hOyR5)
Exactly. And they don't dress in a sundress or a nice sweater and jeans. Its always some kind of dressup on your girl PC in a game thing, or stripper clothes. They don't want to be a woman, they want to be a cartoon of a woman.
BUT... I saw an interview with a woman who thought she was a lesbian for years talking about how she behaved. She said she thought she had to be the man in the relationship so she had the short hair, the man clothes, the wallet with the chain on it, acting all butch etc.
They're cartoons of what they think this longed-for gender is, not the actuality of it
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:05 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:02 PM (jc0TO)
Reminded me of Kevin Costner's arguably best movie.
Mr. Brooks
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:05 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 20, 2025 05:00 PM (AcTAo)
Elon himself says his son is dead.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:05 PM (8avO+)
Trump should fire her.
@Osint613
3m
WATCH:
President Trump comments on Tulsi Gabbard’s assessment that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon… “She’s wrong.”
https://tinyurl.com/mw8bz2j9
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:06 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:06 PM (jc0TO)
Yeah that really put a stake in his career for a while. He was the golden boy all-American handsome lead for a while then really hurt himself with that role. I was so happy seeing him in NCIS, it was a great role the first four years or so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:06 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (jc0TO)
Like MST3K, only with good movies and funny commenters.
Posted by: Candidus
i've thought of doing that. A year ago I wanted to suggest watching William Friedkin's Sorcerer, a supposedly ultra-tense movie about four Americans hired to drive a truck full of nitroglycerine over rough jungle roads. I think it was on Amazon at the time.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (KRtlO)
He was great. Called people things like "Boyo" and "Sonny Jim" when he was angry.
Better days.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (QvGVF)
Posted by: Mark Harmon at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2025 04:59 PM (u82oZ)
its not transferred naturally, it is injected. Its a poison, not a virus.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (8avO+)
I know I call myself Ace of Spades but, seriously, not in real life!
Wait! What?
You mean there no Ace of Spades gender???
I'm sure I saw a hairy stripe on teh ghey flag representing Ewok-fluidity.
Why...why I feel I've been lied to.
*runs out of the woods*
*drops "yub nub" from vocabulary*
*strips patches of glued on hair off body*
*screams at the sky in the pouring rain*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says
It isn't just the unions that hide the truth about pedo teachers. It is also the school system administrators and school boards. When a parent complains about a teacher, the teacher is given the option to resign. They are then free to teach somewhere else, or substitute teach. A teacher can get away with it for years this way. I know of 3 teachers in my area who went from one school district to another. And those three are the cases that finally came to light. God only knows how many pedo teachers just become more careful.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (0Htd1)
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Every night is movie and music night.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (K9XnW)
But what it's really getting at:
Please drop the lawsuits against Trump's trannie EOs-- you're going to lose, lose big, and expand the legal war against trannies.
Narrator: They won't
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 05:08 PM (NwfFc)
What a toxic cocktail of the deranged, disordered and derailed.
Posted by: Pray The Gay Away at June 20, 2025 05:08 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:06 PM (jc0TO)
Actor who can switch back and forth from bad guy to good guy roles through out his career is Robert Duvall. A rare feat.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:08 PM (VofaG)
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Yes. Super curvy and feminine. At the exact time real women are being programmed to be shapeless masses of insubstantial shit. Hmm.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:08 PM (3R4hO)
i keep saying it's always "Caitlin" or "Katrina" or "Gisele," never Mary, Sue, or Debbie.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:08 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 05:09 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:09 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 05:09 PM (IG2sK)
https://tinyurl.com/mw8bz2j9
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:06 PM (K9XnW)
That's old, and I think the claim Tulsi said that was wrong.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:09 PM (8avO+)
Kevin Spacey did it in one movie. But he went the other way.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 05:09 PM (viF8m)
The title definitely didn't give away what the movie was about.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:10 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:08 PM
Well yeah, it's Robert Duvall. He never disappoints, even in his dotage when he is just phoning it in *cough*A Night in Old Mexico*cough*.
His acting chops had muscle memory.
Posted by: Mark Harmon at June 20, 2025 05:10 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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It was a decent show until it went political.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:10 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Don at June 20, 2025 05:11 PM (zhWvq)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (KRtlO)
Wasn't that "The Wages of Fear"?
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 05:11 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2025 05:11 PM (t/2Uw)
i have to watch that one of these days. I think I have it on my Tubi list.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 04:54 PM (KRtlO)
Wicker Man is one of my favorites! The original, of course.
Christopher Lee said he enjoyed making that movie more than any other movie he was ever in. He's got a good character; charming, rich, funny, always laughing - and of course evil.
Parts feel chopped up because a stupid movie exec destroyed a reel or two along the way for no good reason. In an interview Lee said he'd love to have gotten his hands on the fool who did that. (it's why the beginning feels so rushed)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (uWKK8)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (KRtlO)
Even the stills looked tense when it came out in the 70s(?) A truck trying to cross a rope bridge in the jungle is tense without the explosives.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)
This is a standard revolutionary technique, although an extreme example.
I believe a big motivation for many protests is to indoctrinate kids when young. Get them committed. Get them to make fools of themselves and even commit felonies and get charges -- it will solidify their identities as radicals for life.
Many of the older radicals got that way on the protest lines during the Civil Right era and VN war protests. They understand the effect.
Same with gays encouraging kids to "come out." Convert them young they are radical freaks for life.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (QvGVF)
leftist tactic letting a losing judgement stand in a lower jurisdiction.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (yTAax)
He was great. Called people things like "Boyo" and "Sonny Jim" when he was angry.
Better days.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (QvGVF)
*******
Yes, and "Matey" was another of Stranges' phases. If you haven't go watch Endeavour which has the back story on Morse and Strange. Good stuff.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (RbfS4)
Like MST3K, only with good movies and funny commenters.
Posted by: Candidus
i've thought of doing that. A year ago I wanted to suggest watching William Friedkin's Sorcerer, a supposedly ultra-tense movie about four Americans hired to drive a truck full of nitroglycerine over rough jungle roads. I think it was on Amazon at the time.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (KRtlO)
Not four Americans, just one. The other three protagonists were French, Mexican, and Arabic. Pretty good flick; great score (that was mostly unused) by Tangerine Dream.
Posted by: goozer at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (V1MWf)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:13 PM (K9XnW)
The title definitely didn't give away what the movie was about.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:10 PM (VofaG)
I think it was the name of the truck.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:13 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 05:13 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 20, 2025 05:13 PM (RbfS4)
Depends on the definition of the word "is".
heh ... they are trying, and probably have enough enriched for a dirty bomb.
Plus, if Trump only wants that possibility to give him more popular support for more aide to Israel to finally remove the evil empire, so be it.
I've seen videos of Iranians singing/yelling Thank You to Trump and Israel, for removing this pestilence from their midst. (and have heard early today the Iranian Guard had left ... not sure if they left Tehran or Iran)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 05:14 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (uWKK
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The fool who did that is very lucky Christopher Lee didn't get his hands on that fool. Lee knew a thing or two about making a man suffer.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 05:14 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: The person who thinks it's always begining at June 20, 2025 05:14 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:02 PM (VofaG)
Aliens is a good movie, it has the right balance of plot, bravery, horror, dread and things blowing up.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 05:14 PM (D7oie)
@ Northern Lurker - well, he ain't this Bif. At least five Morons have met me in people space.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 20, 2025 05:14 PM (MsrgL)
I've seen "Aliens" a few times. Such a great movie. And I just found a great Wiki. How'd we survive.
Newt was so amazing but didn't care for acting. Became a teacher. Still in contact with Weaver. If I recall correctly.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 05:14 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:14 PM (VpV7B)
Pushing kids into it and keeping the secret while they work into.being a sex change.
These Teachers need to be fired
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 05:15 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: goozer at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (V1MWf)
Just the punchline
Remember the Alamo !
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:15 PM (VofaG)
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No? I am so disillusioned now.
Mind. Blown.
Signed,
Burt*
*Not my real name
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:15 PM (dGCAG)
Very fine actor, massive screen presence. His career cratered for a while because he told directors he wouldn't take parts with love scenes with women other than his wife. Also probably declined to kneel before producers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:16 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 05:02 PM (viF8m)
OMG, put the royal family of Sweden on suicide watch!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 05:16 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 20, 2025 05:16 PM (sRoQh)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:15 PM (dGCAG)
I always assumed your real name was Jerky McJerkface.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:16 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (KRtlO)
Didn't you do it once already...Space Traders or something?
I just remember showing up in the last minute and posting a 'Let's DO This!' and then the stream shutting down, though.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 05:17 PM (MmNOR)
https://tinyurl.com/mw8bz2j9
Posted by: Braenyard
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I think she was speaking Clintonese -- they are not physically assembling a nuclear bomb at this minute. She was trying to say that there is little risk at the moment, but she was not saying that they are not working toward that gaol.
IOW, it was a miscommunication, not a misapprehension.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 05:17 PM (QvGVF)
All too true in so many instances. Satan is ever-present, and we must contend against him.
Free will allows people to choose evil, but we don't have to let that be socially acceptable or legal.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 20, 2025 05:17 PM (USyCi)
Two great bits of directing by Ridley Scott and James Cameron
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 05:18 PM (IG2sK)
Like MST3K, only with good movies and funny commenters.
Posted by: Candidus
i've thought of doing that. A year ago I wanted to suggest watching William Friedkin's Sorcerer, a supposedly ultra-tense movie about four Americans hired to drive a truck full of nitroglycerine over rough jungle roads. I think it was on Amazon at the time.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 05:07 PM (KRtlO)
Not sure that "Sorcerer" would lend itself to good or fun commenting.
MST3K had the right idea of using less than good movies. They leave lots of open space for fun comments.
Something terrible like "Mortdecai" would be just about perfect.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:18 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (VpV7B)
Like MST3K, only with good movies and funny commenters.
Why are my comments not showing up?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 05:02 PM (viF8m)
____________________________
That's just flat out bizarre (and convenient). Go back about a week, and Iran's parliament was taking a few minutes to do nothing more than provide accolades to Pakistan for supporting them. Additionally, in the India/ Pakistan border hijinks last month, Trump was definitely backing up Modi (and had just met with him which suggests he knew India was going to take care of business).
Muslim countries sure are curious in their strategic efforts. It's like they are trying to hoodwink toddlers, and to them, that's enough.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (dIske)
http://tiny.cc/5ejn001
Seems that one of clients was Chelsea Manning.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (yTAax)
Because it's SCOTUS's job to change the constitution wherever it conflicts with the transatlantic progressive project.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (B9Dv5)
Posted by: Nelly at June 20, 2025 05:20 PM (cHLus)
Posted by: Skip
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with the barrel at their temple
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:20 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2025 05:20 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 05:11 PM (cduTK)
Sorcerer was basically a remake of it.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:20 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 05:20 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:16 PM (3R4hO)
He's mellowing out. As did I.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 05:21 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2025 05:21 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (yTAax
"Teeth"
Lol
Hope BruceWayne is well.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 05:22 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (VpV7B)
that actually might be fun. From the clips i've seen in the long form reviews, it is more silly than the other Marvel busts and less leaden and awful. Down side, Sydney Sweeny is wrapped up to seem flat.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:22 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: toby928
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We're transitioning to subtitles.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 05:22 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 05:21 PM (D7oie)
Meanwhile I just keep getting worse.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:22 PM (3R4hO)
Something terrible like "Mortdecai" would be just about perfect.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:18 PM (iJfKG
I was thinking of something in the middle like Cowboys and Aliens.
I've got a dozen snark comments set to go for Harrison Ford's smirk.
And if you want just bad, any Steven Segal movie would do.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 05:22 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:15 PM (dGCAG)
I always assumed your real name was Jerky McJerkface.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:16 PM (3R4hO)
You and a lot of people around here... especially the last week or so.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:23 PM (dGCAG)
Yeah its gotta be something we can riff on not a movie we enjoy. Something likable but really dumb
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:23 PM (VpV7B)
Muslim countries sure are curious in their strategic efforts. It's like they are trying to hoodwink toddlers, and to them, that's enough.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 05:19 PM (dIske)
Did Pakistan get back that province that broke off during that war?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 05:23 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:22 PM (3R4hO)
Nah, you have backed off a bit too.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2025 05:24 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: JackStraw
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Iran becomes a free country. Between Russia, Iran and India, Pakistan gets a weggie.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:24 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 05:24 PM (ULPxl)
Absolutely. The exposure and shame is part of the kink. The being stared at is part of the excitement. Swollen testicle Spider-Man didn't do that because he was trying to be shy and self-effacing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:25 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 20, 2025 05:25 PM (7KTzQ)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 05:25 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:23 PM (dGCAG)
Could be a plot. I'm just saying you can't rule it out.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:25 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:15 PM
But you are a tank commander, yes?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 05:25 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Oldcat
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Baluchistan?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 05:25 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 05:26 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly
Yes! "Matey."
I have not seen Endeavour. I have not seen Morse in years.
I did a treatment though for a "Hathaway" series where Lawrence Fox takes over but he now works as Jr. partner to a Chief Inspector Fatima investigating facebook hate crimes.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 05:26 PM (QvGVF)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2025 05:26 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:22 PM (3R4hO)
Just don't mention the war!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2025 05:27 PM (dGCAG)
So...
I've been watching "Murderbot" on AppleTV, which several morons seemed all excited about.
I gotta say it's pretty slow, boring and lame.
You can tell the books were written by a woman as the 'edgy" murderbot is mostly just a snarky lame-ass. Oh, the snark! It kills or something.
Anyway, I hate all of you who recommended it, and as penance you should all go watch DUNE: When Girls Were Bosses.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 05:27 PM (iJfKG)
Apone
Hicks
Hudson
Drake
Vasquez
Ferro
Dietrich
Frost
Crowe
Wierzbowski
Gorman
Ripley (civilian)
Burke (civilian)
Let me know if I missed any. Time to nuke the comments from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.
The most frustrating thing about Ridley Scott is that he continues to pretend Aliens never happened. See: Romulus, which kind of retcons everything so Aliens didn’t happen and also features facehuggers and aliens but no queen (most likely because he’s mad he didn’t think of it).
Posted by: MrUNIVAC at June 20, 2025 05:27 PM (OrQk0)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:27 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 05:29 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 05:29 PM (3R4hO)
All this stuff was kind of amusing when it was confined to Wigstock in NYC, but now they're into full on B&D sadism against us normies.
Posted by: Beverly at June 20, 2025 05:29 PM (Epeb0)
Posted by: MrUNIVAC at June 20, 2025 05:30 PM (OrQk0)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2025 05:31 PM (kTd/k)
Like they've been doing for decades.
It's a bureaucratic struggle to regain control. Shouldn't be, but it is.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 05:31 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 05:35 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2025 05:39 PM (jgmnb)
Michelle Obama says she's glad she didn’t have a son:
“He would have been a Barack Obama."
https://is.gd/MjfbHA
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 05:41 PM (501gJ)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 20, 2025 06:04 PM (AThW+)
Posted by: KwaK! at June 20, 2025 06:05 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: vivi at June 20, 2025 06:19 PM (qj69p)
Posted by: vivi at June 20, 2025 06:20 PM (qj69p)
Trump's EO Permitting States to Check the Voter Rolls Against Federal Databases of Actual US Citizens Finds that Illegal Aliens Are Voting In All Kinds of Elections
Why did no president take this simple step before?
Could it be that the Democrats want illegal aliens to vote, and the Bush wing of the Fake Republican Party agrees, or at least doesn't want to upset their liberal friends and mistresses by disagreeing? Answer: Yes, that's exactly it.There's more good news: Stacy McCain quotes from a Center for Immigration Studies report: So far, the illegal immigrant population of the US has dropped by one million. From 15.8 million (according to one count) to 14.8 million. Trump didn't deport one million people. He deported thousands, and many thousands more self-deported.
An executive order signed by President Donald Trump paved the way for state officials in Texas to identify dozens of noncitizens who allegedly voted in the 2024 election. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton opened investigations into 33 potential noncitizens who are suspected of voting in the 2024 general election, according to a press release from his office. The Republican prosecutor said the discoveries were made possible after the Trump administration allowed Texas officials to more easily gain access to a federal database that helps identify an individual's citizenship or immigration status. "Noncitizens must not be allowed to influence American elections, and I will use the full weight of my office to investigate all voter fraud," Paxton said Tuesday in a prepared statement. "In order to be able to trust the integrity of our elections, the results must be determined by our own citizens -- not foreign nationals breaking the law to illegally vote," the Texas attorney general continued. "These potential instances of unlawful voting will be thoroughly investigated, and I will continue to stand with President Trump in fighting to ensure that our state's elections are safe and secure." Following Trump's return to the White House, Texas officials were able to access the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) database, an online service program administered by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) that allows various government agencies to verify the immigration status or U.S. naturalization of applicants seeking benefits or licenses. Texas was able to access the SAVE database after Trump signed an executive order in March directing the Department of Homeland Security, the parent agency of USCIS, to offer the database free of charge to every state in order to protect election integrity, according to Paxton. "Gaining access to this database has been a game-changer," Texas Secretary of State Jane Nelson said in a prepared statement earlier in June. "Not only have we been able to identify individuals who should not have voted in the last election, we have also been able to confirm naturalization of dozens more." ... The president has also voiced strong support for the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act, legislation sponsored by Texas GOP Rep. Chip Roy that would require state officials to obtain proof of citizenship prior to registering an individual for any federal election and also requires state officials to remove all noncitizens from existing voter rolls. That legislation passed the House in April, with only four Democrat lawmakers voting in favor of it. More recently, the Trump administration unveiled a new partnership with the Social Security Administration to ensure "a single, reliable source for verifying immigration status and U.S. citizenship," according to a memo previously obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Remember how in 2012, during a Republican primary debate, Mitt Romney was mocked for saying he was in favor of "self-deportation"? The audience actually laughed, as Romney explained that it would not be necessary to "round people up," but rather that enforcement of the E-Verify system for employment would cause illegal aliens to leave the country voluntarily. Liberals treated this idea as if it were some kind of joke, but Romney's point -- that if the U.S. ever got serious about enforcing our immigration laws, this would encourage illegals to leave -- has now been vindicated. Steven Camarota and Karen Zeigler of the Center for Immigration Studies report:Democrats enjoy denying two things: that people respond to legal incentives, whether negatively or positively, and that sex is a real thing and not just an illusion created by "Society." McCain adds:
Our analysis of the Bureau of Labor Statistics household survey, officially called the Current Population Survey (CPS), shows a large decline in the foreign-born or immigrant population (legal and illegal) between January and May of this year. The decline was caused by a falloff in the number of non-citizens from Latin America who arrived in 1980 or later, a population that overlaps significantly with illegal immigrants. We preliminarily estimate that the number of illegal immigrants has fallen by one million since the start of the year, perhaps due to their leaving in response to President Trump's election and stepped-up enforcement efforts. . . .
Keep in mind that the average population of a Congressional district is about 760,000, so that for every 2.3 million illegal immigrants you deport, you're taking away one House seat (and one Electoral College vote) from states that have large illegal populations.See the post for the full analysis. Thanks to The Patriarch Tree. Bonus: Trump signed an executive order to remove all illegal aliens from the Medicaid rolls. There are, insanely, 1.4 million illegals using this program for free medical treatment, which was of course established for America's own poor citizens.
#8 - Karoline Leavitt reveals President Trump has instructed the U.S. Senate to REMOVE ALL 1.4 MILLION illegal aliens from Medicaid to put Americans FIRST.
— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) June 19, 2025
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:21 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (cczGC)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (q177U)
They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer at June 20, 2025 03:23 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:23 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Meric at June 20, 2025 03:23 PM (/BF22)
Open and shut case you would think, except for vote registration fraud via motor voter. Someone might be voting on their behalf.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:23 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 03:24 PM (KRtlO)
This is what Democrats think of you, the AMERICAN voter.
They hate you because you don't vote for them overwhelmingly.
However, note, the replacement theory is bullshit and not something you should take seriously, you guys.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Coolness. Now do all other federal aid programs.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (3Ope8)
Posted by: Meric at June 20, 2025 03:23 PM (/BF22)
Next up: "And why it's a good thing."
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (q177U)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: H at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (2gjbv)
Posted by: spongeworthy at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (CDWlY)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Monty and his Python at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (WnnlU)
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:23 PM (q177U)
Don't cry for me, Argentina.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (0Htd1)
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Here's the problem. Hospitals also get DSH payments for a "disproportionate share" of indigent care. The hospitals will still get compensated unless that was also addressed.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (ITkJX)
Insert lesson about something here.
Posted by: Iasonas at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM (gUzGB)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM
The Joint Session should look like the Senate of the Old Republic.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: The media we USED to read at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM (hOyR5)
Good point.
But -- can they write it off?
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM (KRtlO)
What would President Hogg and Vice-President Crockett do?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (0sNs1)
Are they still getting $13k per covid diagnosis?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (Zz0t1)
Then: Read my lips there are no undocumented immigrants getting free healthcare
Now: It would be rayciss to deny free healthcare to undocumented immigrants
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (t0Rmr)
What would President Hogg and Vice-President Crockett do?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (0sNs1)
Don't look at me.......
Posted by: Sonny Crockett at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (Zz0t1)
Trump is a Big Meany. But I'm sure these citizens of foreign countries (in the USA illegally, perhaps just to get free care and other bennies) will be welcomed back home to get the medical care they need.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (vbXSk)
Insert lesson about something here.
Posted by: Iasonas at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM
Notice that they number not even a fraction of a rounding error of the number of Boomers in the population.
We are Legion.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Iasonas at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM (gUzGB)
Could I check with anti Boomer "Mike Armstrong" on the content of the lesson first?.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (jvJvP)
11 million.
11 million?!?
They’ve used that same number since the 1970’s at least.
He wants to give 40-50 million illegals instant citizenship.
How about no.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (Hkcdp)
Posted by: Not clued in at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:30 PM (t0Rmr)
-I justify voter fraud because my ideas are so good that any means necessary to attain them is justified.
-I justify voter fraud because the average American is too stupid to appreciate the brilliance of my ideas.
-I justify voter fraud because I deserve power. (Narcissistic will to power on this one).
Lot of arrogance and hatred in that mentality. Can't be healthy.
Posted by: Meric at June 20, 2025 03:30 PM (/BF22)
Posted by: fd at June 20, 2025 03:30 PM (vFG9F)
Ever notice our modern tranny crazies refer to they/themselves in the same odd way?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:30 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 03:31 PM (1IUvn)
Seriously ? Is this recent ? It's certainly not what the voters voted for
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:31 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) at June 20, 2025 03:31 PM (0sNs1)
And even then, normies knew this was a lie.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2025 03:31 PM (Hkcdp)
I have no idea how they are doing their counting, but those numbers are way Way WAY too low. There are probably 16M illegals in California alone. Nationwide, there are at least 30M illegals and probably closer to 50M.
The Democraps know this. Which is in large part why Democraps bend over backwards to accommodate illegals every need and whim.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Fenrisulven at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (ciYHQ)
As a next step, have ICE set up a desk at inner city hospital emergency rooms.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: DSH at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (hOyR5)
Their answer to that is generally something like;
Of course there is no fraud, but if some does get in it only makes a dent in the number of people red state governments disenfranchise.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (jvJvP)
It does not[/n] acknowledge that the state programs are funded by the fed medicaid programs so there is no real difference. I do not know how much, but we all know that the states are pumping up those numbers exactly because it is subsidized (including accounting tricks to effectively steal the federal subsidies following the lead of MassCare under Romney which just federalized state obligations.)
Another point though is that even if they are off medicaid, the hospitals have to treat them. These people are still a burden. The Dems keep creating fake solutions to hide the cost, but the only solution is deportation.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (QvGVF)
1) That doesn't tell me how they know, so I don't trust the claim.
2) The fact that he's saying there are only 15.8M illegals in the country tells me his numbers are completely untrustworthy.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (Riz8t)
And a 3000% decrease in your insurance premiums
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (t0Rmr)
A significant effect of Trump's Big Beautiful
Bill would be the effect on the federal deficit -- not as much money spent on illegals who will no longer be here.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (g3j/k)
All Hail Trumpinius Superbus!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (QvGVF)
And those shouting the loudest for "we need another law" were doing so because everyone knew none of the enforcement will ever happen.
But, it's well and long past time for Trump to tell Tyson Foods:
You have 30 days to re-certify the citizenship of all employees.
After that, for every illegal employed, I'm arresting a CEO or manager.
If that means all management gets arrested down the Plant Supervisor in Lufkin, Texas, then that's where we'll go.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (rOVb5)
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (rF2iL)
How about "the Republican party in general is beholden to their fat cat donors and handlers who want cheap labor."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (VpV7B)
Is that legal? Because that don't sound legal.
Someone should go to jail for that.
Of course someone would have to care if that was being done.
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (ilX37)
That’s a low ball estimate I would say. Go to any emergency room and it’s full of foreigners getting treated on our dime.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (f70Xg)
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They show up to the ER they gotta get treatment if unstable. EMTALA. Hospital winds up eating cost without medicaid.
Gonna hit a lot of hospitals hard.
Posted by: Its been known to happen at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (FuNJ6)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (1IUvn)
USAID payments stopped paying for young street thugs to show up, so Democrats had to dig up the old guard.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 03:34 PM (lIio7)
--
Hawaiian judge ready to pounce
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 03:34 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2025 03:34 PM (fx8tj)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:34 PM (t0Rmr)
And the Iranians want to start negotiations. Both Schumer and the Iranians can b*** me.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 03:34 PM (Riz8t)
Because Republican presidents for the last 50 years were complete sellouts. Even Reagan sold us out with his amnesty.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:34 PM (/U5Yz)
The Democrats at least were doing it because they knew they could change immigration law to their benefit and lard it up with tons of unrelated spending on the back of the "immigration crisis"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:35 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (t0Rmr)
Ha! Mine quadrupled, plus my work hours were cut 20% to meet the new, lower number of hours to be considered a full-time employee.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 03:35 PM (rF2iL)
That means 4 to 8M. And it would be foolish to assume that percentage hasn't gone up in the years since the Dems have made illegal alien voting one of their keystones.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:35 PM (t0Rmr)
They are then eligible for food stamps and Medicaid for their children.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 03:35 PM (NpAcC)
Insert lesson about something here.
Posted by: Iasonas at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM (gUzGB)
I hope you've noticed that 90+% of those boomers supporting ICE resistance are in blue cities. And I bet most of them belonged to a union (and the democrat party) for most of their lives. They're used to doing what they're told to do.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2025 03:35 PM (g8Ew8)
That’s a low ball estimate I would say. Go to any emergency room and it’s full of foreigners getting treated on our dime.
The best, most efficient way to round up illegals on any given day is to put a cordon around the DMV.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 03:36 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: The person who always says that at June 20, 2025 03:36 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025
***
They'd be looking like Cain and Eve on this morning's Art Thread painting!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2025 03:36 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 03:36 PM (rOVb5)
The best part of a crackdown is it keeps illegals in the shadows, so not using as many government services and/or voting.
Posted by: Eldo at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (kRhM/)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (D4vBI)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
hmmm, seems like the Dem areas lose more than that. 2.3M divided by 760,000 is three seats. Illegals are not all in Dem districts, but most probably are. Then there is the necessary redistricting after the 2030 Census (or before) ...
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (vbXSk)
Insert lesson about something here.
Posted by: Iasonas
I'll be the first to admit that we boomers are the generation that pretty much ruined everything.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (0Htd1)
Even the left is starting to notice this. And its concerning them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (VpV7B)
Which was good for foreign policy. Domestically not so much.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (H2Iel)
The times they sure have changed.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:38 PM (jc0TO)
Insert lesson about something here.
Posted by: Iasonas at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM (gUzGB)
They are the last generation to ever leave home and go outside.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:38 PM (8avO+)
*biden's 80M "votes" included untold millions of these type of ballots.
Illegals don't typically vote in person, or by mail. They're not interested. The in person voting is fraught with risk for them. But letting someone else "vote for them" is just fine.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 03:38 PM (Q4IgG)
@JDunlap1974
They know the 11 million is a ridiculous lie, and a lot of them slip up. Chuckles couldn’t help but adding “or however many”.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2025 03:38 PM (Hkcdp)
California started giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens back in 2016 or so. Along with the drivers license comes a voter registration form. One can only wonder how many poor, illiterate peasants fill it out and send it back in and then they or somebody for them goes and votes.
If California cleared their voter rolls and required everybody to come back in with their birth certificate and re-register what would be the outcome?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 03:39 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Boss Moss
__________
Related - Nobody pays charges. If you're insured, the provider gets the rate negotiated with the carrier, which is usually 20 or 30% of the listed charges. If you're uninsured, you get a substantial self-pay discount. The charges listed on any statement mean literally nothing.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 03:39 PM (ITkJX)
*Gen X looks up from playing water fight with the hose and laughs, then goes back to being ignored*
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:39 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: illiniwek
Where there needs to be a US citizen question.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2025 03:40 PM (fx8tj)
@JDunlap1974
They know the 11 million is a ridiculous lie, and a lot of them slip up. Chuckles couldn’t help but adding “or however many”.
At this point, I'd tell Chuck "okay, the first 11M that sign up for amnesty get it, and everyone else has to leave. Deal?"
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 03:40 PM (Riz8t)
1. You register
2. You self deport
3. You file paperwork proving how much taxes you have paid
4. Those with the highest proof of taxes paid are vetted and allowed to return on a conditional basis
5. If you haven't committed any crime in 10 years time you are allowed to apply for citizenship
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:40 PM (q177U)
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Unless you are a plaintiff seeking damages in a personal injury case!!!!
Posted by: Its been known to happen at June 20, 2025 03:40 PM (FuNJ6)
Anyone caught engaging in voting fraud needs at a minimum life in prison.
It undermines the entire basis of democracy.
And the "Democratic" Party has now institutionalized vote fraud into their standard operating procedure. And has become the Party if Treason.
I should stop typing now.
Posted by: zombie at June 20, 2025 03:40 PM (pMi6S)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 03:41 PM (rOVb5)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 03:41 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (0sNs1)
Just pray that they don't reproduce. That would be the makings of a horror movie.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:41 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: zombie at June 20, 2025 03:41 PM (pMi6S)
That means 4 to 8M. And it would be foolish to assume that percentage hasn't gone up in the years since the Dems have made illegal alien voting one of their keystones.
Posted by: 18-1
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The key is that the illegal names on the rolls are used strategically as needed to vote in close districts.
The winning politicians either used the illegal tactics (vote buying) or they were not affected by opponents who did so.
If the losing politicians voted on these bills I am sure they would get strong support.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 03:41 PM (QvGVF)
*ruffles hair*
That's nice. Go back to doomscrolling, kiddo
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:41 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 03:41 PM (zZu0s)
24: 15M
20: 17M
16: 13M
12: 13M
08: 13M
And over that time frame the population has only increased by abut 2M. Funny how that led to 4M extra votes in '20 isn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:42 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 03:36 PM (rOVb5)
The laws don't say it is not illegal if it fails to change the result. Its just illegal.
Note that up north it looks like the last election result is changing again, because of mass fraud in that election.
And the analysts even on the side that lost were so sure that fraud was not a factor. Lots of blame, but the 'scrutineers' were supposedly right there to stop all fraud.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:42 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 03:42 PM (zZu0s)
_______________________
Guys with girl's names give me the creeps. The surname doesn't provide confidence either. He should change his name to something more mainstream like Adolf Dahmer.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 03:42 PM (dIske)
Even the left is starting to notice this. And its concerning them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM (VpV7B)
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I think the funding dried up to mobilize the young street urchins. Boomers are retired, bored, have nothing better to do, and fondly remember the protests in the 1960s when they were much younger. Rose-colored glasses and all. Boomers don't need to be paid.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)
Get more registered than live in a town or city and you can reduce chances the numbers look “off.”
Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2025 03:43 PM (Hkcdp)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 03:39 PM
Yeah. Billing is all screwy. I had a CT scan a couple of weeks ago and the Charge was $2500, and the Hospital agreed to accept the $1300 the Insurance was willing to pay.
But, the diag codes from my doctor were messed up and after I waited an hour for them to try and straighten it out, they offered to reschedule OR I could self-pay. Self-pay was $125.
I paid.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:44 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Its been known to happen
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Only if you live in one of few states, like mine, in which case you're right. You can put the full amount of the charges before the jury, while the fact of insurance reimbursement is inadmissible under the "collateral source" rule.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 03:44 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Bob "Massively Overrated" Dylan at June 20, 2025 03:44 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:44 PM (VpV7B)
24: 15M
20: 17M
16: 13M
12: 13M
08: 13M
And over that time frame the population has only increased by abut 2M. Funny how that led to 4M extra votes in '20 isn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:42 PM
One very important thing to remember is california's population is only increasing because of illegal immigration. The actual population that is eligible to vote is decreasing.
File this under things that should make you go hmmmmm.......
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (e5NfL)
20: 17M
16: 13M
12: 13M
08: 13M
And over that time frame the population has only increased by abut 2M. Funny how that led to 4M extra votes in '20 isn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:42 PM (t0Rmr
And the sites I go to all talk about how people and cpmpanies are fleeing California.
My friends gave me fresh muffins. I'm so blessed they are here.
And it looks like my living situation will finally be resolved soon. Oohhh...oooohhh.....ooohhh
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (jvJvP)
Instead, they only want the folks that are worth $7 per hour ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (rOVb5)
Out: No widespread fraud
In: Widespread fraud but not pervasive
Soon to be in: Pervasive fraud but not enough to affect every single election ever, just most of them
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: A Boomer at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (vFG9F)
No! that is amnesty!!!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (fx8tj)
Posted by: 18-1
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No, inner city votes aren't getting more fraudulent. They have reached peak fraud for the last 50 years, they are about 99 percent fraudulent and often have more than 100 percent returns to boot.
I've voted in a big city and the real residents aren't registered and don't vote to speak of.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (8avO+)
Anyone caught engaging in voting fraud needs at a minimum life in prison.
It undermines the entire basis of democracy.
And the "Democratic" Party has now institutionalized vote fraud into their standard operating procedure. And has become the Party if Treason.
I should stop typing now.
Posted by: zombie
I have been arguing that since forever, bunches of things are treasonous
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (zd1dU)
Because Republican presidents for the last 50 years were complete sellouts. Even Reagan sold us out with his amnesty.
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Today's House & Senate "Republicans" are *still* complete sellouts--that's why virtually none of Trump's accomplishments have been codified into law.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (TN0g+)
Hey, screw you!
--Lindsay Buckingham, Stacy Keach, Mandy Patinkin, Sandy Koufax, Marion Morrison
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (VpV7B)
No! that is amnesty!!!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (fx8tj)
being illegal is itself a felony. working while illegal is too.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (8avO+)
So if Trump really wants to fix this country he needs to up that output to 5 times ther current rate.
He also needs to start figuring out legal ways to return all the refugees that are even worse than illegals, as most of them come with required government spending that far outpaces what we spend on born citizens. I know he was able to get rid of one of Biden's protective orders on refugees, but time to start cracking down on the other fake refugees, like the hundreds of thousands of Africans that are "fleeing" the problems they caused, like Ilhan Omar's war crime committing father.
Posted by: Rbastid at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (DwKm2)
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It's fantastic to have a US President who loves America and Americans -- a feeling not witnessed and experienced since Reagan's election in 1980 (my first vote) -- and before he got rolled by the UniParty on amnesty for illegal aliens in 1986.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 03:47 PM (D4vBI)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at June 20, 2025 03:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Insert lesson about something here.
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Lots and lots of pasty white folks too. Congratulations public education and university profs, you successfully raised successive generations of marxists.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 03:47 PM (TN0g+)
15 million illegal aliens? Who are they kidding? The real number is most likely about 2-3 times that.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 03:47 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:47 PM (jc0TO)
24: 15M
20: 17M
16: 13M
12: 13M
08: 13M
And over that time frame the population has only increased by abut 2M. Funny how that led to 4M extra votes in '20 isn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:42 PM (t0Rmr)
Speaking as a California resident, I’d be happy if the state was cut to one Electoral College vote.
Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at June 20, 2025 03:47 PM (NwKiA)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:44 PM (VpV7B)
Don’t do it. Listen to the Bible narrated. It’s great for the soul!
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2025 03:48 PM (jgmnb)
Especially when it's late, you've had a few, they are taped and you don't notice the Adam's apple.
I used to keep Springer on in the background a lot.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 03:48 PM (jvJvP)
Along those lines the left keeps saying we need illegals to pick our lettuce. Well, ok, assume all 1M people employeed as farm hands are illegals.
What are the other 40M illegals doing for money?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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Senate? I think I see the problem here.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 03:49 PM (Dv3i1)
Hey, screw you!
--Lindsay Buckingham, Stacy Keach, Mandy Patinkin, Sandy Koufax, Marion Morrison
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (VpV7B)
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I'll allow Stacy Keach and MMM (John Wayne)...and Sandy Koufax. But, you're making my case with Buckingham and Patinkin.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 03:49 PM (dIske)
I should stop typing now.
Posted by: zombie
The three fifths compromise was the first institutionalized voter fraud act, and its older than the Democratic Party.
The slave counts as three fifths, but his vote counts 0 fifths.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:49 PM (8avO+)
And even then, normies knew this was a lie.
Posted by: Lizzy
Same as the lie that Obamacare would make our insurance premiums go down $2000 per year. The bastard repeated that lie over and over again. My premiums went UP $2000 a year. I know because, as someone who took early retirement, I paid for my own health insurance. I never believed the lie because democrats love shitting on responsible people like me who pay our own way.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:49 PM (0Htd1)
No, I didn't register.
No, I didn't pay tuition.
No, I didn't go to classes.
No, I didn't take any exams.
But I snuck on to the campus and walked around and no one arrested me!
If I don't get my Harvard degree, I'm going to hold a protest on campus and wave a Yale flag.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 03:49 PM (rOVb5)
Posted by: Lizzy
Same day registration is an abomination.
Voting used to be overseen by the public. That is essential for a democracy. (OK, republic with democratically elected representatives.)
Public oversight means (a) local counting, (b) public rolls with ability of public to verify well before voting (c) public oversight of counting -- observers, paper ballots, etc. (d) autidability - paper ballots readable by public. (e) etc.
The pols have stolen the public's right to oversee elections. They centralized, computerized, and put state employees in control of rolls counting, etc. Then they went to same day reg. cryptic ballots, and other tricks. The whole system needs to be scrapped and start over.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 20, 2025 03:49 PM (QvGVF)
Hey, screw you!
--Lindsay Buckingham, Stacy Keach, Mandy Patinkin, Sandy Koufax, Marion Morrison
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (VpV7B)
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"Who you calling creep, creep?"
-- Marion Cobretti
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 03:49 PM (iFTx/)
The left argues when this comes up that the census "missed" a bunch of people.
And then, oddly, they never argue we should redo the census...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (Dv3i1)
I'm glad I really don't go on Tik Tok or Twitter (Well, I don't have accounts there, although i will occasionally post some uplift thing from TIk Tok on the tech thread). I can just read here and get depressed.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (2GCMq)
This video is reportedly ICE grabbing a human trafficker. Listen to the voice of the woman screaming, "WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THEM!?!"
She's having a full on meltdown. I believe she has convinced herself she's actually facing the modern equivalent of NAZIs snatching Jews off the street; not rhetorically.
http://tiny.cc/q8jn001
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (pI9a0)
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I don't know--that first name of Adolf might scare some people into thinking he's some kind of monster.
I suggest he go with "Jeff" instead.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: toby928
Also, fentanyl addicts in Kensington only count as 3/5s of a person, so the fraud is even more extreme than we realize.
Posted by: zombie at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (pMi6S)
No discussion of amnesty until it’s quantified.
I bet if the real number was known the idea of amnesty would be finished.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (Hkcdp)
90
I'll be the first to admit that we boomers are the generation that pretty much ruined everything.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:37 PM
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The World War Two generation created the Boomers, and did a lot of damage on their own.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (cQWrP)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (VpV7B)
No! that is amnesty!!!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (fx8tj)
being illegal is itself a felony. working while illegal is too.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (8avO+)
Not to mention the Social Security fraud in using a bogus or stolen SSN.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 03:50 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Vengeance at June 20, 2025 03:51 PM (OfF2T)
The answer they should give is "home"
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:51 PM (t0Rmr)
Good for you if you did, smartypants.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 03:51 PM (ITkJX)
My friends gave me fresh muffins. I'm so blessed they are here.
And it looks like my living situation will finally be resolved soon. Oohhh...oooohhh.....ooohhh
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 03:45 PM (jvJvP)
They still flee Stateless, they just left their vote behind.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (8avO+)
There are, insanely, 1.4 million illegals using this program for free medical treatment, which was of course established for America's own poor citizens.
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MOAR GENOCIDE!!!!!
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (pI9a0)
Having blue collar wages rise for the first time in years is no accident. It is directly correlated to getting rid of illegals in the country. Now if we could only get the Democrats to follow Rosie O'Donnell's lead and self-port themselves to destinations outside our border.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (NXz8h)
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40M people living here with behavioral problems?
Golly, if there were a group of 40M people here who didn't ascribe to societal norms you'd have thought that might raise some concerns...
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Lindsey "Not a chick" Buckingham at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (lIio7)
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Uhhhh, let me be clear. Your premiums have gone down 300%.
Posted by: Obaba at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Vengeance at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM (OfF2T)
I guess the judge didn’t believe the guy is a flight risk
Posted by: Oglebay at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM (2ap+5)
Especially when it's late, you've had a few, they are taped and you don't notice the Adam's apple.
Personally I find a nice well defined Adam's Apple on a young lady is quite fetching. I mean, not as nice as a nice plump set of ladyballs, but you don't always get to see those.
Posted by: David French at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM (t0Rmr)
Some of the leftists honestly, really think they are being sent to death camps, being killed off. They aren't joking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM (Lo97M)
They really like him there.
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I%
He is kind of fun to watch, in a clownish sort of way.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: Vengeance at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (OfF2T)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (0Htd1)
This video is reportedly ICE grabbing a human trafficker. Listen to the voice of the woman screaming, "WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THEM!?!"
She's having a full on meltdown. I believe she has convinced herself she's actually facing the modern equivalent of NAZIs snatching Jews off the street; not rhetorically.
http://tiny.cc/q8jn001
You know damn well she pleasures herself thinking about being the star in a remake of Schindler's List.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (Riz8t)
Marion vs. Marian
I'll accept Marion using the "o" as opposed to the "a" as masculine vs. feminine. I'll need to put an addendum in my personal book of prejudicial opinions (Volume V).
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Gonzotx at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (nGraA)
Eh, not really. Yes if you read their forums they say things like that but if the lefty woman in that video really believed that do you think she would just yell where are you taking him?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM
Wouldn't they be more circumspect if they did? The Left never acts in good faith, ever.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Jayne Cobb at June 20, 2025 03:55 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM (0Htd1)
I think so too. I actually kind of like him.
Speaking of fun to watch, Kathy Griffin turned down $1.4 million to host 'The View."
She was making $10 miĺlion a year at the time...
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 03:55 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:53 PM
Wouldn't they be more circumspect if they did? The Left never acts in good faith, ever.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (jc0TO)
There is zero honesty in a lefty activist. They are just playing to your sympathy, using it against your for evil.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:55 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: nerdygirl
He was on Fox just a couple of minutes ago. The high point was when he played the black woman card by spouting off that he was speaking when he wasn't allowed to filibuster.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 03:56 PM (NXz8h)
Glad we have 1M out of the country, but as one says to the left lane drivers... It's the pedal on the right.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 03:57 PM (2bFN5)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (0Htd1)
He's to dessicated for there to be any blood flow.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:57 PM (8avO+)
Theo Von calling Chuck Schumer "that little money monkey" would have raised hell with the left as anti-semetic just a few years ago. Will nobody be outraged for Chuckie anymore?
Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2025 03:57 PM (j4U/Z)
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And there were virtually no consequences for it either--there were no fiery editorials the next day about how the Dems were out to crush the working man. Not a word was spoken. It was all A-OK.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 03:57 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 03:57 PM (+BYq9)
Not 15 million
This is why I suggested what I did in #101. Make Schumer admit that his number is utter codswallop. He's saying "or whatever". Well sparky, if you don't know, I'm not about to give you carte blanche. But you do know, you just choose to lie, and that's why you'd never accept my proposal.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 03:57 PM (Riz8t)
This video is reportedly ICE grabbing a human trafficker. Listen to the voice of the woman screaming, "WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THEM!?!"
She's having a full on meltdown. I believe she has convinced herself she's actually facing the modern equivalent of NAZIs snatching Jews off the street; not rhetorically.
http://tiny.cc/q8jn001
You know damn well she pleasures herself thinking about being the star in a remake of Schindler's List.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (Riz8t)
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Best part of that video is when they just throw the vermin into the van like a sack of shit ... or Hillary Clinton. More, please.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 03:57 PM (iFTx/)
-- Marion Cobretti
With a nickname like Cobra, hardly anyone would bother learning your first name. It could be Gladys Tiddliwinks and they would still be calling you Cobra.
If his last name was Marion Scharzenfarter, then it might become an issue.
Posted by: Nelly at June 20, 2025 03:57 PM (cHLus)
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The means were always there it was just a matter of will to use them. Trump would do well to go after a number of companies for breaches against the e-verify act to scare the other ones. Jail time, not fines, tend to work much better.
Posted by: Decaf at June 20, 2025 03:58 PM (unUNN)
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 20, 2025 03:58 PM (PMtkd)
It would get boffo ratings.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 03:58 PM (Riz8t)
Back when the left was a bit more reasonable I used to argue politics with them online.
They'd argue for some leftist policy because of X so you'd spend a while running through it and eventually get them to agree X was wrong...but then they'd argue they really support said policy because of Y. So you'd run that down and eventually get them to agree Y was wrong. At which point they'd argue they actually support the leftwing policy because of X.
And they would play this game for as long as you wanted to participate.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:58 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 03:58 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (K9XnW)
Tranny wearing frilly pink dress hired as elementary school bus driver, renames it "The Lolita Line" as he picks up 6-9 year-old girls daily, snaps back at complaining parents that he's doing nothing wrong:
https://shorturl.at/9T2O9
The only saving grace is that happened in Canada.
Posted by: zombie at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (pMi6S)
My name is spelled with an 'E!'
Posted by: Lindsey "Not a chick" Buckingham at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (lIio7)
My peeve is kids named after towns, cities and states. "Madison" feh.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
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Or she's a paid operative meant to appear on camera in a viral video.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Goddessoftheclassroom at June 20, 2025 04:00 PM (USyCi)
I'm not in HR, but I've heard it's simply not legal to deny employment based on e-verify results.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 04:00 PM (lIio7)
The left: Why do you knuckle dragging reichwingers accuse us of being soft on pedophilia
Also the left: There is nothing wrong with exposing children to sex. Likely ideally with your own ladypenis
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:01 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 04:01 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2025 04:01 PM (XV/Pl)
And they would play this game for as long as you wanted to participate.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:58 PM (t0Rmr)
The ones I played that way with were dumber. When they realized that you had them on X, they just went directly back to X.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:01 PM (8avO+)
Remember the thousands of people that showed up to vote for the first time in years in 2020 that were told they already voted via mail?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:01 PM (t0Rmr)
Some of the leftists honestly, really think they are being sent to death camps, being killed off. They aren't joking.
They're pissed because they built those camps for us.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (y9nCu)
"Ol Sharts? Yeah I know him."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (ITkJX)
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Why should they be compensated? If they are sanctuary states or cities they can wear the cost until it hurts.
Posted by: Decaf at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (unUNN)
My name is spelled with an 'E!'
Posted by: Lindsey "Not a chick" Buckingham at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (lIio7)
My peeve is kids named after towns, cities and states. "Madison" feh.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
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"Fuck you!"
-- Gargoyles
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (iFTx/)
I'm sure she's paid, but I don't think that was just acting. She's a true believer.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (lIio7)
I'm not in HR, but I've heard it's simply not legal to deny employment based on e-verify results.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 04:00 PM (lIio7)
Sounds like bullshit that HR would say.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2025 04:03 PM (rWsXW)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 04:03 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
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Yeah, I'm with ya on that. Dakota is a big one that makes me do the eye roll.
However, I love names where people were trying out the assonance and alliteration and didn't even bother to determine the meaning. I know a woman (I'll let you guess what race) named Effervescence. I call her Effie. Cool woman (funny as hell) but she deserves a better name.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 04:03 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
I have a nephew named Dakota, and a grand niece named Indiana. Jeepers.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 20, 2025 04:03 PM (PSEDc)
The inverse of rule number on for the left is in play:
"What we want to do the right, they will do to us"
They had the trains worked out and how to set up the camps. All they needed was one more win to get the social credit score and department of disinformation fully active. And they are certain that's how everyone runs everything and so they are the targets of the right.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:03 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Vengeance at June 20, 2025 03:51 PM (OfF2T)
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Pretty sure in Oregon the blank ballots that are sent to your house are just a placebo to give the illusion of democracy. These get filled out, mailed in and then sent straight to the incinerator. The ballots that eventually get counted were pre-printed and waiting in several trucks to be sent to the counting stations on election night.
Oregon was the first state to have mail in voting (since the 80's) and look what it has done to this place. We used to have plenty of Republican representation.... until mail in voting. Strange thing is, democrat governors keep winning by the same 5500ish vote margin every election despite the population increasing from 2.5 million to 4.2 million over the last 20 years. THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! The magic number for invoking an automatic recount is 5000 vote margin.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 20, 2025 04:04 PM (pI9a0)
They're pissed because they built those camps for us.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (y9nCu)
They'll have to hire us to build and run the camps. They can't do shit, even death camps.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:04 PM (8avO+)
New York Post
L@nypost
Cynthia Nixon says her son is on a ‘hunger strike’ to support Gaza https://
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:04 PM (+BYq9)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 04:04 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2025 03:34 PM (fx8tj)
I believe that at some point in the past a law was passed letting them sign up because fuck the citizens. I believe that the BBB rescinds that so the Senate getting off their ass and passing the BBB would permit their permanent removal.
I could be wrong in my recollection though.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 04:05 PM (ExV1e)
Past elections, Californians have voted for conservative issues and the results were overturned -- get this -- by the California supreme court.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (K9XnW)
Even worse, all of those conservative initiatives were actually state constitutional amendments. Which the Calif supreme court overruled because they were... unconstitutional.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 04:05 PM (y9nCu)
I guess her parents REALLY wanted a boy, and this is from before they could just turn her into one.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:05 PM (t0Rmr)
I'll accept Marion using the "o" as opposed to the "a" as masculine vs. feminine. I'll need to put an addendum in my personal book of prejudicial opinions (Volume V).
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 03:54 PM (dIske)
Hey, my Momma gave me that name! B*tch set me up!
Posted by: Marion Barry at June 20, 2025 04:05 PM (8hxDK)
Its a millennial thing, determined not to be Boomer and have those "old names" and break away from their families who are all stupid and old and wrong. Plus, girls who watched too many soaps and read too many romance novels with those author-y names trying to be new and different.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:05 PM (VpV7B)
My name is spelled with an 'E!'
Posted by: Lindsey "Not a chick" Buckingham at June 20, 2025 03:52 PM (lIio7)
My peeve is kids named after towns, cities and states. "Madison" feh.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
________
"Fuck you!"
-- Gargoyles
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 04:02 PM (iFTx
I never considered naming MadisonTheCat ‘Gargoyle’.
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2025 04:05 PM (jgmnb)
Yep. I haven't voted for two elections now. Wont be again until they fix the electoral system.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:06 PM (VpV7B)
Tranny wearing frilly pink dress hired as elementary school bus driver, renames it "The Lolita Line" as he picks up 6-9 year-old girls daily, snaps back at complaining parents that he's doing nothing wrong:
https://shorturl.at/9T2O9
The only saving grace is that happened in Canada.
Posted by: zombie
SHAME ON THE PARENTS for putting their kids on that bus.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 04:06 PM (W2Pud)
New York Post
L@nypost
Cynthia Nixon says her son is on a ‘hunger strike’ to support Gaza https://
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And her "son" is actually her daughter, and may or may not be Jewish because Cynthia Nixon can't be trusted to relay actual facts.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:06 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Decaf
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Not disagreeing, but rather just pointing out the current laws on payment. University/teaching hospitals are the ones that generally get the big bucks in DSH payments.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 04:07 PM (ITkJX)
......
Nah, can't be.
First we'll have to give them freebies, that'll do it.
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 04:07 PM (v0R5T)
The beauty of ranked choice voting is fraud is built right into the system and can be manipulated for a desired outcome at any time.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 04:07 PM (NXz8h)
Notice how the vast majority of anti-ICE protestors are pathetic Boomers.
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The usual self-congratulatory loudmouths of that generation. Not a majority, maybe even a small percentage. But enough to tar everyone born then.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 04:07 PM (QnmlO)
https://shorturl.at/9T2O9
The only saving grace is that happened in Canada.
Posted by: zombie
SHAME ON THE PARENTS for putting their kids on that bus.
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Actually, shame on the parents for not lying in wait and dragging that asshole into the woods and disposing of him.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:07 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Frank Luger at June 20, 2025 04:08 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:08 PM (VpV7B)
New York Post
L@nypost
Cynthia Nixon says her son is on a ‘hunger strike’ to support Gaza https://
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And her "son" is actually her daughter, and may or may not be Jewish because Cynthia Nixon can't be trusted to relay actual facts.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:06 PM (TN0g+)
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If it's the daughter I think it is, that fucker could stand to lose some weight anyway. Starve away until you die, bitch.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 04:08 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
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Yeah, I'm with ya on that. Dakota is a big one that makes me do the eye roll.
However, I love names where people were trying out the assonance and alliteration and didn't even bother to determine the meaning. I know a woman (I'll let you guess what race) named Effervescence. I call her Effie. Cool woman (funny as hell) but she deserves a better name.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 04:03 PM (dIske)
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*quietly tells grandson Puyallup to go to his room*
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 04:08 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
I have a nephew named Dakota, and a grand niece named Indiana. Jeepers.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
Jackson Hole would be a nice name for a.girl. Or Deadwood for David Hogg.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:08 PM (+BYq9)
Its a millennial thing, determined not to be Boomer and have those "old names" and break away from their families who are all stupid and old and wrong. Plus, girls who watched too many soaps and read too many romance novels with those author-y names trying to be new and different.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:05 PM (VpV7B)
what? Boomers doing names RIGHT!? take that you latecomer generations!!
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (8avO+)
Dominion counts the votes.
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (+qU29)
The thing that "never happens" appears to have happened after all.
Who could have foreseen this?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (i24o9)
At least until I finish cooking dinner
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (t0Rmr)
The thing that "never happens" appears to have happened after all.
Who could have foreseen this?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (i24o9)
No one.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (3R4hO)
At least until I finish cooking dinner
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (t0Rmr)
You identify as being on a hunger strike.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:10 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 04:10 PM (17s+e)
Who could have foreseen this?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (i24o9)
No one.
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No one at all!
Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at June 20, 2025 04:10 PM (TN0g+)
"Bus driver? No idea. My kid was sick that day, never even saw the bus. He always seemed kinda sketchy to me, probably ran off somewhere."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:11 PM (VpV7B)
L@nypost
Cynthia Nixon says her son is on a ‘hunger strike’ to support Gaza
Jeez.
Who gives a flying fu*k what this twit has to say?
Just another Hollywood loser with screwed up kids.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 04:11 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2025 04:11 PM (rvwwT)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:08 PM (VpV7B)
Always gotta have about 2 or 3 spare mice about, and batteries for same. One that is a direct connect too.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:12 PM (8avO+)
"Y'all ain't takin my name away"
--Deadwood Dick
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:12 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Not a joke at June 20, 2025 04:12 PM (hOyR5)
Good lord, these people are insane.
This video is reportedly ICE grabbing a human trafficker. Listen to the voice of the woman screaming, "WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THEM!?!"
She's having a full on meltdown. I believe she has convinced herself she's actually facing the modern equivalent of NAZIs snatching Jews off the street; not rhetorically.
http://tiny.cc/q8jn001
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She's really tiny, and really old. It looked like she was going to fracture herself with that exertion..
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2025 04:12 PM (cQWrP)
Yeah pretty sure I have a cheap Amazon mouse on the shelf, I like to stock up on stuff like that. I hate the 189 button glowing super mouse with the weird shape and buzzy sounds. Just 3 buttons, thank you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:13 PM (VpV7B)
Who gives a flying fu*k what this twit has to say?
Just another Hollywood loser with screwed up kids.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 04:11 PM (W/lyH)
I don't even care about what the NY Post says. Print is dead. Don't even go to the Times.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:13 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:13 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:14 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (VpV7B)
>>>Yeah, I'm with ya on that. Dakota is a big one that makes me do the eye roll.
I was at a baseball camp this week at an upscale private school with my youngest. The Declans and other similarly named crotchfruit abounded.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (+BYq9)
Posted by: Diogenes
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Could have been Medical Lake or Federal Way.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (2bFN5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (2GCMq)
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No lo comprendo. Wouldn't it be that for every 2.3 million illegal invaders you deport you take away THREE house seats and THREE electoral votes?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 04:17 PM (17s+e)
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Please clap now.
Posted by: Jeb at June 20, 2025 04:17 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 04:17 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Not a joke at June 20, 2025 04:12 PM (hOyR5)
Yeah she was..
Posted by: Hunter at June 20, 2025 04:17 PM (LgDgc)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:05 PM (VpV7B)
what? Boomers doing names RIGHT!? take that you latecomer generations!!
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (8avO+)
No, quit this pigeonholing nonsense. This is cross generational and has been going on for quite some time now.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:18 PM (vm8sq)
It's not dead to me. I buy the Post at least twice a week-maybe more. Yes, they have some leftist slant on things, but there are a lots of articles and snippets refuting leftst views and seem to enjoy psoting things from "The Babylon Bee" I don't want to read the paper online
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 04:18 PM (2GCMq)
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My peeve is cars named after strippers; Mercedes, Porsche, and Lexus.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 04:18 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Diogenes
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Could have been Medical Lake or Federal Way.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (2bFN5)
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Don't get me started on his sister Kalotus and his other brother Washtucna.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 04:18 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (+BYq9)
Mom was responsible enough to have a normal name in reserve so the kid isn't totally scarred from it. She can go by hope.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:18 PM (8avO+)
YoungHoon Kim
@yhbryankimiq
23h
As the world's highest IQ record holder, I believe the Bible is the perfect, eternal, and final Word of God. Therefore, the Bible doesn’t need to be updated. The world needs to catch up.
Jun 19, 2025 · 8:19 PM UTC
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:19 PM (3R4hO)
Posted by: Walla Walla at June 20, 2025 04:19 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Cow Demon
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My brother assures me that no illegals are receiving welfare of any kind.
He also tells me Adam Schiff is a Patriot!
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 04:20 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:20 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Diogenes
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Could have been Medical Lake or Federal Way.
Posted by: scampydog
I'm sort of partial to Beaver Homes, Big Bottom, and Humptulips.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 04:20 PM (NXz8h)
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The teasing's going to be radioactive.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 04:21 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: The Dodge Destiny at June 20, 2025 04:21 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 20, 2025 04:21 PM (M0V4/)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:21 PM (+BYq9)
I should have this copied off somewhere so I can just stamp it whenever the topic comes up.
Stereotypes exist for a reason: they generally are accurate about the bulk of a given group. Most white men are lousy at basketball. Most black people don't like to swim. Most women cannot parallel park. Most men are lousy at communicating their feelings. Most GenX are slackers who just want to be left the hell alone. Most Zoomers are device-addicted.
Does this mean there are no exceptions? No. Does this mean that you, personally, being part of that group are specifically the way that is being described? No.
YES, other generations have given stupid and annoying names. But its also true that SOME generations do it more than others.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:22 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:09 PM (8avO+)
No, quit this pigeonholing nonsense. This is cross generational and has been going on for quite some time now.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:18 PM (vm8sq)
I'm taking up the zealotry angle because Ive always hated the pidgeonholing crap. I remember when boomers were the only named generation, just because there were so many. It had nothing to do with dumb shit culture wars.
Did a similar thing when Pope JP I was elected and died due to Catholics being talked about too much.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:22 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (+BYq9)
Chernobyl means “wormwood”.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:22 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:22 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 04:23 PM (i24o9)
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Let's do little role playing, I'll be the ice agent and you be the protester.
You (protester): "WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THEM!?!"
Me (ICE agent): "WHO BITCH DIS IS???"
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 20, 2025 04:23 PM (pI9a0)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2025 04:23 PM (2UnvF)
My pet peeve is men who think they are women calling themselves stripper names. I'm not Donald any longer, I'm Cynnamon! No, don't deadname me any more, my name is now Sapphire!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: And atheists at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:20 PM (vm8sq)
It belongs nowhere. If you can't decide stay the hell home. RCV is the devil.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 20, 2025 04:21 PM (+BYq9)
Hungry Valley
Posted by: State Park in CA at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (8hxDK)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: And atheists
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Q: How do you know when a vegan is in the room?
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:25 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: And atheists at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (hOyR5)
Athiests are always very sure what god they don't believe in.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:25 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 04:25 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: CrossFitters at June 20, 2025 04:26 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 04:27 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 04:27 PM (3R4hO)
Stereotypes exist for a reason: they generally are accurate about the bulk of a given group. Most white men are lousy at basketball. Most black people don't like to swim. Most women cannot parallel park. Most men are lousy at communicating their feelings. Most GenX are slackers who just want to be left the hell alone. Most Zoomers are device-addicted.
Does this mean there are no exceptions? No. Does this mean that you, personally, being part of that group are specifically the way that is being described? No.
YES, other generations have given stupid and annoying names. But its also true that SOME generations do it more than others.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 04:22 PM (VpV7B)
It’s not the stereotyping bit. It IS this incessant need to label, classify and pigeonhole people into groups. Not to mention it is utterly stupid.
I wish I could show you my fourth grade class picture as a demonstration of how dumb this is. I’d just have to say “Name the non-Gen-Xer” and watch the stupidity ensue.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:28 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Harvard Alums at June 20, 2025 04:28 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Movie Nerd at June 20, 2025 04:28 PM (hOyR5)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 04:24 PM (8avO+)
Nowhere…in this country. We don’t have parliaments. Except for ME and AK that adopted RCV stupidity.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 04:29 PM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 04:30 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Just the punchline at June 20, 2025 04:30 PM (hOyR5)
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The usual self-congratulatory loudmouths of that generation. Not a majority, maybe even a small percentage. But enough to tar everyone born then.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2025 04:07 PM (QnmlO)
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The same ones that were hippies in the 60s are now the boomer protesters. They were comfortably well off then while everyone else had to work and they are the same now. They are giving all boomers a bad name.
Posted by: Decaf at June 20, 2025 04:32 PM (unUNN)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 04:06 PM (TN0g+)
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If it's the daughter I think it is, that fucker could stand to lose some weight anyway. Starve away until you die, bitch.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 04:08 PM (iFTx/)
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It's the transgender hormones that screw up their weight.
Posted by: Decaf at June 20, 2025 04:35 PM (unUNN)
AOC's out there going "only .00004 percent of votes were by non-citizens" or something, but this is an "I don't really care, Margaret" situation.
1. it should be 0.000000% of votes are cast by people not eligible to vote
2. we have no idea how many more than those 33 illegally voted.
Posted by: Rick C at June 20, 2025 05:01 PM (1zWbY)
Posted by: Pascal at June 20, 2025 05:13 PM (XZWdP)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 05:20 PM (UjdFS)
Posted by: Manuel Labor at June 20, 2025 05:22 PM (UjdFS)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 20, 2025 06:03 PM (wGqjj)
At least that is what the Democrats always claim.
Posted by: Sam at June 20, 2025 06:31 PM (7jMef)
Assaults on ICE Officers Rise 500% as the Democrat-Media Party Encourages Their Cult Members to Attack the Police
Didn't they charge Trump with inciting a riot?
Assaults on ICE agents have skyrocketed by 500% during enforcement operations, according to new data released by the Department of Homeland Security. Key Details: DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Breitbart News that ICE officers are experiencing a "500% increase in assaults while carrying out enforcement operations." McLaughlin referenced a recent incident where ICE officers attempted to arrest Roberto Carlos Munoz, an illegal alien and convicted child sex offender. Munoz allegedly dragged an ICE agent 50 yards with his vehicle while fleeing the scene in Bloomington, Minnesota. McLaughlin criticized Democrats including House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Boston Mayor Michelle Wu, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass for their "repeated vilification" of ICE agents, linking their rhetoric to rising attacks. Diving Deeper: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers are encountering a wave of violence during arrest operations, with attacks on agents having increased by 500%, according to internal Department of Homeland Security data reviewed by Breitbart News. DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin called the spike "alarming" and highlighted a recent example involving a violent fugitive who nearly killed an agent during an attempted arrest. "Just this week, an ICE officer was dragged 50 yards by a car while arresting an illegal alien sex offender," McLaughlin said, referring to Roberto Carlos Munoz, a previously convicted child predator living unlawfully in the United States. Munoz reportedly used his car to evade capture in Bloomington, Minnesota, endangering the life of the officer attempting to take him into custody. ,,, McLaughlin also warned that political rhetoric from high-profile Democrats is inciting hostility toward ICE. "Make no mistake," she said, "Democrat politicians like Hakeem Jeffries, Mayor Wu of Boston, Governor Tim Walz, and Mayor Bass of Los Angeles are contributing to the surge in assaults of our ICE officers through their repeated vilification and demonization of ICE." She pointed to Jeffries' threat to publicly identify ICE agents, as well as past statements from Wu and Walz comparing the agency to Nazi Germany's secret police. "From comparisons to the modern-day Nazi gestapo to glorifying rioters, the violent rhetoric of these sanctuary politicians is despicable. This violence against ICE must end," McLaughlin said.
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The Vigilant FoxThe media has no comment on their current incitements to attack the police. They are, however, asking Jasmine Rachet if she feels "safe" since the shooting of two Minnesota politicians. Why ask her? She's not from Minnesota. I guess they just want to make sure Democrats aren't feeling unsafe due to political violence. They have no cares about whether Republicans feel safe.
@VigilantFox NEW: ICE Deputy Director SLAMS Democrats for Encouraging Violence Against Her Officers. Democrats are calling for violence... no surprise. Eric Swalwell: "You have to meet their chaos with your own strength." But ICE Deputy Director Madison Sheahan is firing back, warning that this rhetoric is putting lives at risk. "The men and women of ICE work every day to keep the American people safe." "It's insane to me to think that politicians are out encouraging people to cause harm to our officers, which is up over 400 percent over the last few years." "And trying to cause harm to these agents when they're out there doing their job." "The Democrats continue to say that nobody is above the law, and yet, they will not allow law enforcement officers to do their jobs and enforce the laws that are on the books in the United States." When politicians inflame mobs instead of enforcing laws...this is the result.
NEW: ICE Deputy Director SLAMS Democrats for Encouraging Violence Against Her Officers.
— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) June 20, 2025
Democrats are calling for violence... no surprise.
Eric Swalwell: “You have to meet their chaos with your own strength.”
But ICE Deputy Director Madison Sheahan is firing back, warning that… pic.twitter.com/4uCXpN3iXe
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Posted by: Eldo at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (kRhM/)
Faster than i could say it.
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Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 02:23 PM (1IUvn)
But -- and hear me out -- it's also good news. It means ICE is out there rounding up these CHUDs. ICE is doing its job. That wasn't true under Joey Shithead. If ICE is just sitting in their offices eating munchkins, there won't be any interactions with the public that could generate assaults.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:23 PM (iFTx/)
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Yes. After "It's not gojng to stop and it shouldn't stop" from Kamala in 2020 with regard to burning all the cities.
Always projection. Always. Plus J6 was planned and seeded with mostly antifa.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 02:24 PM (EAdiF)
And the rest of the rioters will run to a judge who will protect them from justice.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 02:25 PM (rOVb5)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 02:26 PM (EAdiF)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:26 PM (/U5Yz)
The FNM claimed he was murdered by rightwingers egged on by angry Republican rhetoric.
The police investigation found it was clearly suicide which made the story disappear.
Now we have leftwingers openly trying to assassinate Trump and murder ICE agents and the FNM is arguing it has nothing to do with the Democrats who are explicitly telling them to do so.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:26 PM (t0Rmr)
ICE should start wearing Palestinian Kifiyahs, so the left will leave them alone.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 02:26 PM (IifOV)
And the rest of the rioters will run to a judge who will protect them from justice.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 02:25 PM (rOVb5
Bad things will happen.
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (jgmnb)
They have learned nothing.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (/y8xj)
Bondi better be looking at deploying the same tools against the anti-ICE terrorists...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (1IUvn)
OT: Iranian expats in London are demonstrating in the streets yelling THANK YOU to Bibi and the IDF.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (lCaJd)
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Rapid Response 47
@RapidResponse47
.@RepJerryNadler
accuses the brave men and women of ICE—who put themselves in harm's way to remove dangerous illegals from our communities—of "hiding misbehavior" by protecting their identities.
ICE agents are now facing a 500% increase in assaults thanks to rhetoric like this.
https://tinyurl.com/3mffz9bj
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (NpAcC)
They have learned nothing.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (/U5Yz)
Bond can be black... Just not female or Trans...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (6PCLE)
The FNM claimed he was murdered by rightwingers egged on by angry Republican rhetoric.
The police investigation found it was clearly suicide which made the story disappear.
IIRC more than one TV cop drama (scripted and run by leftist dipshits) took this and ran with it. Same with Mathew Shepard. Anything that they thought supported their "HURR DURR RIGHT WINGNUT KILLERS" mindslop got dramatized and put on screen before they could be deflated with the facts.
Posted by: Cops bad unless arresting "right wing nutjobs" at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (TbWk/)
@Breaking911
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🚨🚨 BREAKING: 5.2-magnitude earthquake has struck central Iran.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (mlg/3)
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🚨🚨 BREAKING: 5.2-magnitude earthquake has struck central Iran.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (mlg/3)
Or did it ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (1IUvn)
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Interfering with ICE is the source of the chaos, you prick.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (Dv3i1)
I think there were several in the 4 Richter Range, yesterday.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (mlg/3)
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Dang, the Jews really DO control the weather!
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (9C6BN)
Guess God is joining in now too...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (t0Rmr)
If it's AOC, she will also defund the police.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (NpAcC)
They have learned nothing.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (/U5Yz)
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I couldn't care less about a new JB movie even if they cast a green tranny with leprosy. The series is dead to me.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (n2swS)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:31 PM (/U5Yz)
Probably would need to arrest about half of the Eff.Bee.EYE first.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (ULPxl)
So honestly? Don't care if he is black. But making him a woman or gay adjacent like Craig? That destroys the character.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: PaleRider at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (bP/i4)
They have learned nothing.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (/U5Yz)
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I couldn't care less about a new JB movie even if they cast a green tranny with leprosy. The series is dead to me.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
Me too.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (mlg/3)
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Global warming, of course.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (NpAcC)
The No Kings thing? Remember rule 1:
[center]Anything the left accuses the right of doing, they are already doing or would do in their place.[/center]
I think its part projection and partly just that's the way they see the world and cannot imagine it any other way. Of COURSE the right is trying to do this, everyone does!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (n2swS)
Us too.. Our neighbors are Hispanic.. And Americans and they are no fans of the illegals...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:33 PM (VE6XX)
The first James Bond who will owe child support and endless paternity tests.
Posted by: ??? at June 20, 2025 02:33 PM (IifOV)
Bond can be black... Just not female or Trans...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (VE6XX)
I thought they missed the opportunity to make the Idris guy Bond.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)
That's a disgraceful thing to say.
Hey garrett, can you dial back the wind a bit?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 02:33 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (IG2sK)
@Breaking911
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1m
🚨🚨 BREAKING: 5.2-magnitude earthquake has struck central Iran.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (mlg/3)
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[Smiles]
-- Grazer One
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (jc0TO)
Put a chick in it and make it fake and ghey.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (1IUvn)
They already did that with the last movie, by reassigning the 007 number to a glacier slow black woman with a gigantic ass.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (y9nCu)
The rumors are that they will make it a period remake of every book... and with a black dude. In 1953. Because James Bond the black guy was a commando in WW2, its really effective to sneak into places as a black man in Europe in 1940s. Nobody would notice.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (VpV7B)
Dems are constantly calling for their crazies to assassinate or punch Republicans with conservative positions. Some of the Dems' crazies may be the MK-Ultra variety, but their are plenty of mentally disturbed nuts out there, raised up by our school system and media.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (vbXSk)
How's that possible? What form of due process do they think Obama used that Trump can't? Did Obama actually deport them, or is it fudged numbers?
Like, fine then, let's return to the Obama era's due process procedures. But there's no way they are that efficient, or Trump's ICE team and Hogan would be using them.
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (gWBY1)
You want illegal alien murderers and child sex assaulters in your neighborhoods and you're willing to fight law enforcement over it? Cool beans. Enjoy the fruits of your own stupiditiy.
Posted by: ballistic at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (3BwY8)
Posted by: Sid at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (m2tBR)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (t0Rmr)
It's getting Biblical now.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: ballistic at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (3BwY8)
"Only God can judge us!"
--Iranian dictators
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (VpV7B)
The rumors are that they will make it a period remake of every book... and with a black dude. In 1953. Because James Bond the black guy was a commando in WW2, its really effective to sneak into places as a black man in Europe in 1940s. Nobody would notice.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (VpV7B)
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The biggest problems with Hollywood writers are that they do not understand people nor do they understand basic storytelling.
Which is why we keep getting garbage like this.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: ballistic at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (3BwY
I say let them burn
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (VE6XX)
Dialing it back is harder than changing its direction.
If you have a preferred heading...
wait. I might have already said too much.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 02:31 PM (EAdiF)
And his bottom boy will be a gutless, soft effeminate white boy who, by coincidence, works for the strong, black woman who the gay black Bond 'cheats' with.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's continuing at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (7xrfc)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (MmNOR)
Hirono? Whitehouse? Spartacus? Schiff?
Cortez? Crockett? Raskin? Swallwell?
What's a Moron supposed to do, there are so many choices?
And that's not even getting to governors and mayors.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (od0dV)
But they did it poorly, she was able to go toe to toe with much larger men, and amusingly they had her romance another "female" spy...but the actress was a tranny.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 02:37 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Josephine Baker at June 20, 2025 02:37 PM (gWBY1)
Bitching about it on X isn't going to do shit.
The administration has to realize that it is never too early to enact lawfare on the left.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 02:37 PM (Q4IgG)
It's everything you'd expect.
https://tinyurl.com/2ywxv5nb
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (paSBy)
Posted by: Some Black Female Viking Jarl at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (t0Rmr)
I'm so far behind on Bond watching that they could cast Mr. Ed in the role and I wouldn't know it. I don't think I have seen any of the Daniel Craig ones.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (jc0TO)
The first DG flick is a damned good action movie. The others are largely crap.
But NONE of them are Bond.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (MmNOR)
The rumors are that they will make it a period remake of every book... and with a black dude. In 1953. Because James Bond the black guy was a commando in WW2, its really effective to sneak into places as a black man in Europe in 1940s. Nobody would notice.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (VpV7B)
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I've heard 50 different rumors and even supposed "done deals" (like Aaron Taylor-Johnson as the next Bond) about the next round of JB movies that I dismiss it all as noise. I'll believe whatever the new Bond is when it's an actual made movie.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
By announcing that he may give Iran up to 14 days to "return to the bargaining table" (I just threw up in my throat),Trump has giving all the usual suspects at home & abroad another 2 weeks to gin up political opposition!
So Trump will ignore that, you say? Do you have the same level of confidence that Congress will also? How about public opinion? Rock of Gibraltar, are they?
The kicker here is that Iran has said 25 different ways that they have no intention of negotiating-- not until Israel quits waging war. You pay us first, then we'll talk. We'll negotiate just like we did before Israel attacked. We'll negotiate as long as you like-- the more the better, in fact.
Thank you for indulging my rant.
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (kd60y)
Posted by: Sid at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM
This side.
https://tinyurl.com/bdz7a3yh
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (n2swS)
Worked for me.
Posted by: Josephine Baker at June 20, 2025 02:39 PM (gWBY1)
It's everything you'd expect.
https://tinyurl.com/2ywxv5nb
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (paSBy)
Our best and brightest, ladies and gentlemen.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 02:39 PM (IG2sK)
The administration has to realize that it is never too early to enact lawfare on the left.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 02:37 PM (Q4IgG)
Correct. Anyone bitching about it on X spends a night in the box.
Posted by: Carr, The Floor Walker at June 20, 2025 02:40 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (vbXSk)
yeah, I think our culture is in a very precarious place right now. Even without the CIA and MK Ultra.
I think foreign policy (well, more specifically, deep state types getting fabulously wealthy using US foreign policy) is the tail wagging the dog here and we have allowed our society to become very unhealthy.
Then, as a bit of a cherry on top, we invited in 50 million New Americans to bring their cultural bullshit with them as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:40 PM (uCjyK)
It's everything you'd expect.
https://tinyurl.com/2ywxv5nb
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (paSBy)
How juvenile.. And horrible
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:40 PM (VE6XX)
Well, all things belong to Him, so yes. But He doesn't need them.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 02:40 PM (lIio7)
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Because they are fucking liars. During that era, they counted those turned away at the border as deportations.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 20, 2025 02:41 PM (+K1xO)
It's everything you'd expect.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM
He must have gotten away from his keepers.
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 02:41 PM (n2swS)
At that point, you have every right to cap the asshole.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 02:41 PM (5WDkb)
Yeah, there are three main problems with modern writers.
1) they have no real world experience or real hardships, so they know nothing but themselves. You get endless self-inserts and stories about sitting around eating and whining about how hard life is, because that's all they know.
2) they are given jobs because of DEI, physical characteristics and rank on the grievance totem pole, not talent, skill, or ability. "We have a story about black guys, hire a black, preferably lesbian or transexual."
3) they are driven not by a desire for great storytelling, art, or to please customers, but by a need to "change the world" and "own the CHUDS" so their writing is merely very poor preaching and Jack Chick-level tracts without the pretty solid art.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:41 PM (VpV7B)
This isn't Joe Blow talking crap on Facebook, these are elected officials using their platforms to promote violence against feds.
If Trump was doing this they'd already have charged him with 40 counts in 4 jurisdictions.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:41 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:26 PM (/U5Yz
In the interest of the general Friday mellow mood…we should avoid slandering door stops.
It’s not often we can score a Genuine Fox News celebrity who will moonlight as Attorney General.
Posted by: Voter theater. at June 20, 2025 02:41 PM (yjTwS)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (/CkK4)
Pillage .. then burn.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (jc0TO)
You always burn BEFORE rape... because it's more romantic in the firelight.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (y9nCu)
It's everything you'd expect.
https://tinyurl.com/2ywxv5nb
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (paSBy)
How juvenile.. And horrible
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:40 PM (VE6XX)
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He could at least have tuned the guitar. Sounds out of tune to me.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (iFTx/)
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[Repeated from yesterday:
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Arrest and prosecute their asses.
In the United States, while the term "doxxing" is not explicitly used in the federal criminal code, it is a federal crime to make "restricted personal information" of certain individuals publicly available if it was done with an intent to threaten, intimidate, or in an act of violence.
This includes individuals such as elected officials, employees of the U.S. government, military servicemembers, jurors, witnesses, and others involved in federal criminal investigations.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (zHyGC)
I couldn’t tell from the context if he was blaming meanie Trump or maybe Newsom/Bass…. Maybe he’s finally waking up?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (6RwsA)
This is the woman who bitched at my wife one holiday when she (Mrs Eeyore, that is) asked her father and me if we wanted some pie. She was called an "enabler". FIL (a liberal, BTW) chided her as a troublemaker.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (t0Rmr)
Implication: sinister Trump Secret Police have us all locked in fear! I asked him how he knew it was ICE. Said "they had no other identification, so they had to be..." What I didn't say was: "Although you have zero basis to think they were, I certainly HOPE they were, and are actively tossing every illegal bum the f*ck out of this country."
Posted by: Zek at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (5FPX4)
--Iranian dictators
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
I have a feeling the mullahs aren't that interested in God...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (n2swS)
Us too.. Our neighbors are Hispanic.. And Americans and they are no fans of the illegals...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:33 PM (VE6XX)
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My neighbor Jose, who was brought here legally when he was a child and fought in Desert Storm and still has a thick accent, absolutely hates these illegal shitfucks. Jose is proud of his heritage and makes the best carne asada tacos ever, and he is the most America loving person I know.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (pI9a0)
About one mile deep, centered at Iran's Nuke Mountain?
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (/U5Yz)
"Yours, O Lord, is the greatness,
The power and the glory,
The victory and the majesty;
For all that is in heaven and in earth is Yours;..."
So yes, God has bunker busters.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 20, 2025 02:44 PM (PSEDc)
Then, the sequels show her helping win WW2 and transitioning to being a spy and celebrity in the Cold War era, with new adventures. All while hiding her spy missions from the public.
It's Hannah Montana meets James Bond. Bam, new franchise. You're welcome. It's not that hard, people, sheesh.
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 02:44 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (/CkK4)
I think they're trying to manufacture a narrative more than anything.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:44 PM (uCjyK)
They were inches away from assassinating Trump and seem to have gotten a lot of mileage out of their attempt to assassinate one of the weak sister right leaning SC judges.
Why would they stop?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:44 PM (t0Rmr)
He could at least have tuned the guitar. Sounds out of tune to me.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (iFTx/)
What do you want to bet your tax dollars went to buy that $3500 guitar so he could pull of that stunt. He's not learning to play guitar......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)
Does he think another 14 days of relentless bombing by Israel will soften their attitude?
Is he buying time to position forces or get undercover folks out?
Or will he go all-out before then and say 'we fooled you. Your mistake was thinking you could trust us after you've lied to us at every turn for 40+ years'.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 02:45 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (pI9a0)
That’s how old America worked. You came over you kept grandma’s recipes from the old country but left the rest of your bullshit in the old country and became American.
That’s stopped being a thing sometime in the 2000s.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:45 PM (/CkK4)
>>I'll believe whatever the new Bond is when it's an actual made movie.
The new Bond has to be less grounded and more tongue and cheek, like the Roger Moore Era.
We don't need a mopey, reflective James Bond, we need a martini swilling, bird banging, baccarat playing, happy Bond.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2025 02:45 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Zek at June 20, 2025 02:46 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (/CkK4)
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I think it's more about fundraising than anything. That chubby turd Alex Padilla didn't change any minds or rally anyone to his cause with that impotent stunt, but he was instantly fundraising off it, and still is.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:46 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 20, 2025 02:46 PM (uOoN0)
They have to have a deal with the gangs. Hell, that one judge and his wife had them living in their house with their own daughter.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:46 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 02:47 PM (9C6BN)
He would be pretty good. But ultimately this is James Bond brought to you by the same people who did Rangs of Poo and Wheel of Time. The people in charge brought us Madame Webb, Fantastic Beasts, and Morbius.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:47 PM (VpV7B)
Jefferies responded to the event by implying that there was some action Congress was going to take to prevent this. In other words, legislation for elitist politicians or some such.
The media hid this attack.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2025 02:47 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:47 PM (VpV7B)
I like Fantastic Beasts
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:48 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Nip it...nip it in the bud!
Posted by: Barney at June 20, 2025 02:48 PM (XeU6L)
yeah they know the polling is disastrous, they hope this will move polling and are fearbiters at this point. Lashing out madly and blindly as their power structures are taken away and funding is deleted. They fear arrests and citizen uprising.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:48 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: From about That Time at June 20, 2025 02:48 PM (RE0lB)
Posted by: Sean Connery at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (6RwsA)
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (/y8xj)
Its supposed to impress you and stop you asking what it means in plain language, because the left does not know either.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (/U5Yz)
He would be pretty good. But ultimately this is James Bond brought to you by the same people who did Rangs of Poo and Wheel of Time. The people in charge brought us Madame Webb, Fantastic Beasts, and Morbius.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:47 PM (VpV7B)
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Rings of Shit. Wheel of Shit. Madame Shit. Fantastic Shit.
I liked Morbius, though. Not a great movie by any stretch, but it was entertaining enough. And not woke or political. Some good action scenes.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Sean Connery at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (6RwsA)
Best Bond.
Moore was a good 2nd.
Craig can EABOD.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)
By announcing that he may give Iran up to 14 days to "return to the bargaining table" (I just threw up in my throat),Trump has giving all the usual suspects at home & abroad another 2 weeks to gin up political opposition!
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There's ALWAYS an opportunity to gin up opposition. It doesn't matter what Trump does. If he says "I'm moving now" or if he just moves without a 5-second warning, that's another avenue of opposition. I wouldn't give one atom of energy to the possibility of opposition. Trump just has to do what is strategically right.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Sean Connery at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (6RwsA)
In my book he's the only Bond
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (VE6XX)
FBI announced they found 3 judges working with the cartels to help with illegal immigrant smuggling. This is all the way to the top.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (VpV7B)
1) they have no real world experience or real hardships, so they know nothing but themselves. You get endless self-inserts and stories about sitting around eating and whining about how hard life is, because that's all they know.
2) they are given jobs because of DEI, physical characteristics and rank on the grievance totem pole, not talent, skill, or ability. "We have a story about black guys, hire a black, preferably lesbian or transexual."
3) they are driven not by a desire for great storytelling, art, or to please customers, but by a need to "change the world" and "own the CHUDS" so their writing is merely very poor preaching and Jack Chick-level tracts without the pretty solid art.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:41 PM (VpV7B)
All that and their plotting and dialogue suck, too!
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (/U5Yz)
That'll go over well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (/U5Yz)
Good. That means they won’t show up on the lake or anywhere else normies will be that day. Less crowded for us.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (/CkK4)
Screw this flash bang and pepper spray nonsense, break out the M203's and be done with it.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (/U5Yz)
I think the Army still has M67 recoilless rifles and flechette rounds in storage. I'm just sayin'
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (/U5Yz)
That'll go over well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)
Yeah, burning American flags on July 4th is a sure winner....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (VE6XX)
Yeah, burning American flags on July 4th is a sure winner....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (VE6XX)
Come interrupt my camping weekend, I dare you.........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:51 PM (Zz0t1)
I think this idea is a bit misunderstood. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus warns against imposing judgment:
"Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you."
I would argue Jesus is not saying we're not allowed ever to judge. He's saying be very very careful in how you judge. Because He's going to use your own standards against you. If you judge unfairly and cruelly, that's your standard and Jesus will apply your standard against you when it's time. If you judge carefully and generously, that will be to your benefit when it's time.
See also verses like John 7:24
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."
That doesn't sound like a prohibition against all judgment to me. Rather, it sounds like you must be careful when judging.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 02:51 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Josephine Baker
She was neither a commando, nor trying to sneak anywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:51 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: That guy who always says... at June 20, 2025 02:51 PM (mH6SG)
But early Craig was a contender IMO. I think he got the physicality right. In terms of temperament, not as much humor as Sean, but more of a pscho (I really like hurting people) vibe.
Posted by: Zek at June 20, 2025 02:52 PM (5FPX4)
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I think the statement was that he would make a decision *sometime* in the next two weeks, bot that he'd wait two weeks and then decide.
He likes strategic ambiguity, and I think this is probably part of that.
Posted by: Methos at June 20, 2025 02:52 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:52 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: That guy who always says... at June 20, 2025 02:51 PM (mH6SG)
That's tits.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (/y8xj)
Yes, I'd trade 2 Ivy League Grads for selected just about any legal immigrants.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:52 PM (8avO+)
None of those people go picnicking or camping in the woods or mountains. You never go hiking and run into a weird hair with face piercing ranting about Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (VpV7B)
It's everything you'd expect.
https://tinyurl.com/2ywxv5nb
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 20, 2025 02:38 PM (paSBy)
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Hey, Joe
Where you showerin′ with that son's cock in your hand?
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (XWkVH)
Bone apple tea.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (+qU29)
Hey, Joe
Where you showerin′ with that son's cock in your hand?
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (XWkVH)
You just KNOW that Joe and Hunter tag teamed hookers together.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (Zz0t1)
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By then, Israel may have reduced Iran's nuclear programs and the remaining theocracy to smoldering holes in the ground. We're providing the logistical support they need to keep the pressure on Iran and the mullahs.
Focusing on one or two seemingly impenetrable nuclear related sites isn't as important as making sure the mullahs are all accounted for in the ground.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 02:54 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (VpV7B)
Boomers do. And a large part of the protests are boomers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:54 PM (/CkK4)
Moore was a good 2nd.
Craig can EABOD.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)
Fist bump and sock off twofer
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2025 02:54 PM (ANuwa)
Posted by: ballistic at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (3BwY
I understand that; but Federal buildings and assets must be protected.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 02:55 PM (uWKK8)
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."
That doesn't sound like a prohibition against all judgment to me. Rather, it sounds like you must be careful when judging.
Posted by: bonhomme
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I would agree. You have to read the Bible as a whole, not consider isolated clauses outside of their context.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 02:55 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:52 PM (/CkK4)
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That's the day they burn their Independence.
Oh wait, nevermind ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 02:55 PM (7K1SA)
They may be willing to negotiate too soon enough.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:55 PM (/CkK4)
Also, I think wanting to get out of the Hive Cities to calm your mind shows some awareness of how they negatively impact human psychology.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (VpV7B)
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The bears and mountain lions must get them first.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 02:56 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (VpV7B)
You don't have to sell me on hiking! I'm already a fan.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 02:56 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:56 PM (VpV7B)
But then again, they love the smell of their own farts, so there is that.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (D1vbu)
Boomers do. And a large part of the protests are boomers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:54 PM (/CkK4)
SpongeBro wore his Trump/Vance "Can you hear us now?" shirt around town on Wednesday. In Lowes, an old broad wearing a mask cut in front of him to read the front. He said "excuse me, ma'am" and went around her. She turned and read the back and started mummering into her mask. He couldn't make out what she was saying.
He'd had several others tell him the shirt was awesome.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: pudinhead at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (FmapG)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 02:51 PM
It's not meant to be taken literally. I'm sure he meant all the legal profession.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (jc0TO)
It makes perfect sense for the left to protest July 4th. But instead of "No Kings" they should carry around signs emblazoned with the likeness of King Chuckles.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Guy who blames everything on Boomers at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (od0dV)
I'd think I'd wear "Pie Enabler" as a badge of honor, and I vastly prefer Cake.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (8avO+)
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."
That doesn't sound like a prohibition against all judgment to me. Rather, it sounds like you must be careful when judging.
Posted by: bonhomme
Who am I to judge?
Posted by: The Late Pope Francis at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (lIio7)
Brosnan takes 2nd overall spot for Goldeneye (not so much for the other films). Compared to the geriatric clown that Moore had become, Brosnan was like a pissed off rattlesnake in a tux.
Anyone who doesn't rank Connery as #1 Bond is a homo.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 20, 2025 02:58 PM (D1vbu)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:58 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 02:58 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 20, 2025 02:58 PM (uOoN0)
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (EhvIe)
https://shorturl.at/wS0QQ
Gateway Pundit
Any AR Horde know more about this?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Ward Bond at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM
If I get a vote I vote for Henry Cavil just because he's super handsome.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (dVhjP)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 02:49 PM (/U5Yz)
That'll go over well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)
Yeah, burning American flags on July 4th is a sure winner....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (VE6X
******
Yeah, a real winning message for the Democrats. Ads will be great for us for the upcoming midterms.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (NpAcC)
Pride
Wrath
Lust
Envy
Gluttony
Sloth
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 02:54 PM (/CkK4)
Boomers, like other violent ethnic groups, only can be so in packs. The single or double Boomer out in the wild is nothing to fear. A pack of Boomers, however, with the walkers and catheters and O2 tanks swaying while The Jerry Garcia Band is blasting out that crappy dirty hippie music from their Audi's stereo speakers is a thing to be feared.
Posted by: Zombie Steve Irwin at June 20, 2025 03:00 PM (R/m4+)
But then again, they love the smell of their own farts, so there is that.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 20, 2025 02:57 PM (D1vbu)
The Dem leadership is increasingly dominated by the zealot wings, all wanting action and violence. And many of them agree. Thinking there is a cunning plan to it all may be misplaced.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:00 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:00 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (VpV7B)
They have trans person famous for their "nature is trans!" Campaign, and they go to national parks and hang up huge pride flags on cliffs as a stunt. The national parks are trying to stay neutral (amazingly) and ask them to talk it down, because that's kind of the opposite of the hiker motto (leave no trace.)
The trans person is sponsored by and gets products from outdoor product companies to fund their lifestyle and the stunts. If you're into buycotts, is worth looking into which companies sponsor them and stop buying their gear.
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 03:00 PM (gWBY1)
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No, he hates me because I hoovered up all the supply during it. Stingy little shit.
Posted by: Jill at June 20, 2025 03:00 PM (+K1xO)
Pride
Wrath
Lust
Envy
Gluttony
Sloth
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 02:59 PM (Splbu)
Sure they are rivals, but the St Louis baseball team isn't THAT bad.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (Splbu)
He can act fairly well and is British, but I think he's a bit too big and rugged for the Bond role.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (VpV7B)
I saw some clip that had a nominal Super Girl fighting the same Zod that Cavill's Superman fought - probably from some alternate timeline movie they've made since then.
And they cast a dark haired goth looking actress to play supergirl. Cavill looks like superman does in the comics...but this actress looked nothing like supergirl.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (t0Rmr)
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This. Odd fact, Patrick McGoohan was offered the Bond role but turned it down because it conflicted with his faith. Dude missed a gravy train.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (3QiDE)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (/U5Yz)
Yeah but that's stunt camping, its not a lifestyle or love of the outdoors, its just trying to corrupt another normal person's place of refuge.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:02 PM (VpV7B)
Well then bring it to my neighborhood you little traitorous beyotch. Let's compare chaos.
Posted by: Mr Trematoda at June 20, 2025 03:02 PM (W/lyH)
FEED ME
Posted by: The Barrel at June 20, 2025 03:03 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2025 03:03 PM (ANuwa)
They are, however, asking Jasmine Rachet if she feels "safe" since the shooting of two Minnesota politicians.
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Ask her if she feels stupid.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2025 03:03 PM (QwK6F)
The Flash. Awful movie that James Gunn declared the best superhero movie he'd ever seen. Made even worse by taking the name and vague concept of Flashpoint and doing the story dirty, destroying it and using almost none of the plot.
And having TWO scumbag violent child rapist Ezra Millers in it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:04 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (t0Rmr)
Super Goth Girl, with her Super Depressing voice power!
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:04 PM (8avO+)
06-17-2025
81 yrs old
CoD - Undisclosed
He was a regular on Hee Haw. 174 episodes.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 03:04 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 03:05 PM (W/lyH)
They are, however, asking Jasmine Rachet if she feels "safe" since the shooting of two Minnesota politicians.
What happened to that story ? Last thing I heard was he was MAGA... Guess not...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:05 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2025 03:03 PM (ANuwa)
They were taught history by Democrats, so this is expected.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:05 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:02 PM (VpV7B)
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Typical Leftist behavior.
THEY don't like it (because they don't understand it) so they do everything they can to prevent YOU from enjoying it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2025 03:05 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Oldcat
So basically Raven from Teen Titans?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 03:06 PM (Splbu)
I went hiking up a small mountain recently and barely made it. But barely or not it does give you a feeling of accomplishment to plop down and enjoy the view from the top.
Later I was checking my Farcebook feed later and it pointed me to a hiking group in the same area so I joined it and one of the first postings was a video of a woman going up the same mountain I had just done. Except she ran the whole way and then did yoga on the top.
This got me to review her other videos and she apparently does this regularly and must live in the town at the foot of the mountain.
It is impressive what you can train the human body to do if you just keep working at it.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:06 PM (t0Rmr)
What happened to that story ? Last thing I heard was he was MAGA... Guess not...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:05 PM (VE6XX)
Antifa, enforcing discipline on Donk lawmakers who stray from the reservation.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 03:06 PM (y9nCu)
The title should read: NYC Councilwoman will now be shitting out her teeth for the next few days.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:06 PM (/U5Yz)
So basically Raven from Teen Titans?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 03:06 PM (Splbu
She was my favorite.. Yeah.. Grandkids watched that show
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:06 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (/U5Yz)
I have discovered one of the benefits of concealed carry is when you get a hug from a lady, she gets all surprised and doesn't let go right away. And she always smiles.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (mlg/3)
Why get bunker busters from the US when you can get them from God Almighty?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (rF2iL)
He missed doing a number roles because he didn't want to do love scenes. Good for him for standing up for what he believed in! He was a good actor and sounds like a decent human being.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (t0Rmr)
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I know, right?
Posted by: Woman who Screwed 1000 Guys in 24 Hrs. at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (+K1xO)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (t0Rmr)
Super Goth Girl, with her Super Depressing voice power!
Posted by: Oldcat
There's rumors that Pirates of the Caribbean 6 will replace Depp with black chick as Anne Bonney.
Yeah. A pasty white chick with red hair.
Way to destroy a franchise Disney.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (t0Rmr)
This is why Trump has not been forced to play his hand.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 03:08 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Ezra Miller - first time I saw that actor I thought "what a weird and creepy looking kid, but he's probably really nice in real life"
Hah.
My instinct was right the first time
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 03:08 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 03:09 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:09 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:01 PM (t0Rmr)
Super Goth Girl, with her Super Depressing voice power!
Posted by: Oldcat
There's rumors that Pirates of the Caribbean 6 will replace Depp with black chick as Anne Bonney.
Yeah. A pasty white chick with red hair.
Way to destroy a franchise Disney.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (5WDkb)
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Another series done to death that I have no interest in. Which is true about every series.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 03:10 PM (iFTx/)
Do you see the problem there, Eric?
Posted by: National Soy Products Council at June 20, 2025 03:10 PM (x405f)
Do you see the problem there, Eric?
Posted by: National Soy Products Council at June 20, 2025 03:10 PM (x405f)
I thought his strength was a Chinese live in Spy.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:11 PM (8avO+)
She's incredibly powerful but using her powers risks falling to her dark side. You could also spin off a whole DCU type thing with the Teen Titans, Constantine and Zatanna too..
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:11 PM (t0Rmr)
There's rumors that Pirates of the Caribbean 6 will replace Depp with black chick as Anne Bonney.
Yeah. A pasty white chick with red hair.
Way to destroy a franchise Disney.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (5WDkb)
Just another Disney movie I won't watch
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:11 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Maj. H
do not do that its dangerous
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:12 PM (9oCHY)
Democrat Supporters: We love you guys too! What can we do to help?
Democrats: Go attack those guys with guns over there!
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at June 20, 2025 03:12 PM (/4+8Z)
Well that and how are you ever going to compare to Terrance Stamp in that role? Its like when both Tombstone movies came out. Dennis Quaid did a fine job as Doc Holiday but... Val Kilmer
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:12 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: UFO episode was the best at June 20, 2025 03:12 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Zek at June 20, 2025 02:46 PM (5FPX4)
They are going to crucify us on here but I'm inclined to agree.
Best Bond movies: Pierce Brosnan
Best Bond actor: Daniel Craig
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:13 PM (q177U)
Yeah. A pasty white chick with red hair.
Way to destroy a franchise Disney.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 03:07 PM (5WDkb)
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[Smirks]
-- Amber Heard
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 03:13 PM (iFTx/)
She's incredibly powerful but using her powers risks falling to her dark side. You could also spin off a whole DCU type thing with the Teen Titans, Constantine and Zatanna too..
Posted by: 18-1
it is funny that feminists have not had time to invent a feminist superhero
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:13 PM (9oCHY)
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:14 PM (paOhA)
Posted by: Maj. H
do not do that its dangerous
Posted by: n[/i
No it is not.
What is dangerous is fumbling around looking for a weapon when a bear or psychopath is storming your way.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:14 PM (/U5Yz)
She's incredibly powerful but using her powers risks falling to her dark side. You could also spin off a whole DCU type thing with the Teen Titans, Constantine and Zatanna too..
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 03:11 PM (t0Rmr)
No, because even women characters can't have flaws or need help from friends in any way. Didn't see the cartoon much, but usually in that era of shows there was by-play with the characters and with many pitching in with superpowers or moral support as a friend.
Modern show writers don't have experience with friends like that and can't leave the old scripts alone.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:14 PM (8avO+)
Try chasing him now, bossy stalker!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 03:14 PM (Splbu)
https://tinyurl.com/3n8mewjr
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 03:14 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (mlg/3)
Why get bunker busters from the US when you can get them from God Almighty?
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I hope it really was an earthquake
Posted by: Triple at June 20, 2025 03:15 PM (CqipU)
What is dangerous is fumbling around looking for a weapon when a bear or psychopath is storming your way.
Posted by: Maj. H
yeah, now do the guy that was eating in houston when somebody grabbed his open carry and whackd him a week or so ago
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:15 PM (paOhA)
Yeah but that's stunt camping, its not a lifestyle or love of the outdoors, its just trying to corrupt another normal person's place of refuge.
When I used to hike the coastal mountains above Santa Barbara, there was this desiccated old hippie couple who basically zoomed up the trail for about a mile and then they'd return. They always talked smack to me ("come on, speed up!") because I was going at about half their speed, never mind that I was doing 10 miles round trip to the summit as opposed to their 2ish miles (I always saw them return, and I once worked out the timing/distance). They got pissy when I told them to mind their own fucking business. I later found out from other hikers that they did that with EVERYONE, just to be dicks.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 03:16 PM (y9nCu)
Yeah Kiera had a really pretty face, but that's about it. Kind of an annoying character and not exactly what one would describe as shapely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2025 03:16 PM (VpV7B)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:16 PM (jc0TO)
Asmongold had a good point: whenever there is a bad, woke casting choice there is probably a lot of other mistakes being made as well. So it's generally impossible to make a good woke reboot. It's not just the actor, it's all the other terrible choices that came before that decision.
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:16 PM (q177U)
Roger Corman already did this in the '70s when he gave his Bloody Mama and Big Bad Mama. Everything since then has been an ever weakening echo of this apex girl boss archetype.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 03:16 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 03:17 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 03:17 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:17 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:17 PM (paOhA)
What is dangerous is fumbling around looking for a weapon when a bear or psychopath is storming your way.
Posted by: Maj. H
yeah, now do the guy that was eating in houston when somebody grabbed his open carry and whackd him a week or so ago
Posted by: n a
You're right. Camping in the woods is the same as eating dinner at a restaurant in some urban shithole.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:18 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2025 03:17 PM (ilX37)
I'm sure they are... Ones made in the US are pricey.. I know I have one
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:18 PM (VE6XX)
yeah, now do the guy that was eating in houston when somebody grabbed his open carry and whackd him a week or so ago
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:15 PM (paOhA)
even if you remember the incident rightly, also trot out the hundreds or thousands of annual incidents where an armed person saves lives.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:18 PM (8avO+)
That would solve all sorts of problems and society as a whole would reap enormous benefits.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 20, 2025 03:18 PM (e5NfL)
Somewhere the Tits are Out.
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I laughed at this. Then i took it seriously. See, it's Friday afternoon, there was a simultaneous brownout, and the earth moved. I suspect the tits were out and then some....
Posted by: Its been known to happen at June 20, 2025 03:18 PM (FuNJ6)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 03:19 PM (Splbu)
Seriously. Was there some other Kiera in those movies?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 20, 2025 03:19 PM (3Ope8)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:19 PM (VE6XX)
You're right. Camping in the woods is the same as eating dinner at a restaurant in some urban shithole.
Posted by: Maj. H
my bad, missed the camping bit
in that event chest rig no time to mess with bears
Ive been wishing somebody made a nicer shoulder holster
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:19 PM (paOhA)
do not do that its dangerous
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:12 PM (9oCHY)
?
is not safe, is gun
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 03:19 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:19 PM (VE6XX)
Boobquake.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 03:20 PM (Zz0t1)
is not safe, is gun
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
open carry is dangerous in the big city, someone grabs you gun and whacks you, happened the other day in houston when a guy was eating
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:20 PM (paOhA)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 03:21 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2025 03:21 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:21 PM (q177U)
Bullsh*t. He had one good movie. That isn't best anything. I'll hate watch Moonraker a dozen times before any of Craig's movies after Casino Royale.
Posted by: Nelly at June 20, 2025 03:21 PM (cHLus)
Does he think another 14 days of relentless bombing by Israel will soften their attitude?
Is he buying time to position forces or get undercover folks out?
Or will he go all-out before then and say 'we fooled you. Your mistake was thinking you could trust us after you've lied to us at every turn for 40+ years'.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 02:45 PM (QGaXH)
Maybe he's buying the Israelis time to infiltrate into that main centrifuge facility to wreak destruction from the inside.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (g8Ew8)
That would solve all sorts of problems and society as a whole would reap enormous benefits.
Posted by: Mister Scott
How about something like this: “Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that have your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box.”
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Nelly
yes
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (paOhA)
Iran is pretty seismically active. They have over 200 mag. 4 or greater quakes per year. Thousands of mag. 2 or greater per year.
And, underground explosions behave differently enough from natural quakes that they can be distinguished from the seismic waveform signatures.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2025 03:22 PM (w6EFb)
https://tinyurl.com/3n8mewjr
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 03:14 PM (2GCMq)
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So THAT'S why #6 never bedded any of those island #s in The Prisoner?
/Seriously, thanks for that link, Fen -- was unaware of that ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 03:23 PM (HfBpH)
Yes. I'm in search of a chest holster myself for this particular scenario. Currently carry a 10MM when camping/hiking. Thinking about getting a .454 Casull revolver.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:24 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 03:16 PM (q177U)
Its known that Hollywood has woke rules for plots that negates many plots from the start, even drek like Twilight since Bella gets saved by various love interests.
The writers have no practical life experiences to speak of, aside from possibly watching previous movies so echos of the stolen plots or script lines are all over.
Producers and show runners tend to self insert themselves so that She Hulk had shows about her being a drunk, depressed incompetent skirt like them. Or they cast their lesbian wife to be the heavy instead of literally anyone else.
It has also become customary to have no script since the effects and stunt teams work independently of the other unit and things are pasted together at the end.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:24 PM (8avO+)
Best Bond movies: Pierce Brosnan
Best Bond actor: Daniel Craig
No and no. I'll give you this: each of these guys had 1 good movie.
Highest number of good movies and overall quality goes to Sean Connery.
Best Bond actor is Timothy Dalton. Daniel Craig is a f**king c*ck.
Posted by: Nelly at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (cHLus)
Posted by: Max Power
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I believe that this, de facto, springs Handbasket from the barrel.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 03:25 PM (XeU6L)
open carry is dangerous in the big city, someone grabs you gun and whacks you, happened the other day in houston when a guy was eating
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:20 PM (paOhA)
Like the epidemic of cops open carrying who get their sidearms snatched every day...
I'm not a fan of open carry on a personal level, but the way to deal with it is training, tactical awareness, and proper equipment (VERY secure retention holsters).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (y9nCu)
Okay.. What does that mean ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 03:19 PM (VE6XX)
Wondering same ting.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (QGaXH)
Today is the fiftieth anniversary of the release of Jaws. I didn't see it on the day it came out, but I did see it that summer when I was with my mother and aunt at the Maine Shore. That movie put me off from going very far into the water.
It was great seeing it again at a movie theatre much later and being there with young women who had never seen it and (CONTENT WARNING) they screamed when the head drops out of the submerged boat. I chuckled.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Maj. H
geez you have to ride a harley too with no helmet , roll your own out of tobacco you grew?
Those are mans man things the way my great grandfathers did it when they chased injuns off our ranch
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (paOhA)
Does he think another 14 days of relentless bombing by Israel will soften their attitude?
Is he buying time to position forces or get undercover folks out?
Or will he go all-out before then and say 'we fooled you. Your mistake was thinking you could trust us after you've lied to us at every turn for 40+ years'.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 02:45 PM (QGaXH)
At a guess he's giving time for the factions in the country outside the core a chance to organize and start opposing the central government.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:27 PM (8avO+)
I'm not a fan of open carry on a personal level, but the way to deal with it is training, tactical awareness, and proper equipment (VERY secure retention holsters).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
whatever, it is not my thought that open carry has inherent dangers and disadvantages to concealed carry, its a thing thats been discussed forever.
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (paOhA)
I'm not a fan of open carry on a personal level, but the way to deal with it is training, tactical awareness, and proper equipment (VERY secure retention holsters).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 03:26 PM (y9nCu)
Openly carry an unloaded gun. Have clips for it. Also have a concealed loaded one.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (8avO+)
Yeah no. I ride a ST1300 and 500 EXF and full ATGATT.
No filthy big twins for me.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 03:29 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:28 PM (paOhA)
The point of open carry is to stop attacks before you have to shoot people.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:30 PM (8avO+)
No filthy big twins for me.
Posted by: Maj. H
nice rides
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:30 PM (paOhA)
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at June 20, 2025 03:30 PM (/4+8Z)
Posted by: From about That Time at June 20, 2025 02:48 PM (RE0lB)
Didn't they just do one with Ice Cube Jr. a couple years ago?
Posted by: XTC at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Oldca
It is unwise when in an urban environment to give everybody notice your carrying
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:32 PM (paOhA)
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at June 20, 2025 03:30 PM (/4+8Z)
Not sure Antifa had a lot to do with these riots. They were punk kids of wealth and white criminals from the West coast for the most part.
The ones nabbed here seem to be gang people and hispanics.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: n at June 20, 2025 03:33 PM (paOhA)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 03:43 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Fenrisulven at June 20, 2025 03:43 PM (ciYHQ)
Posted by: JayVee Crockett Queen of the Wild Frontier at June 20, 2025 03:51 PM (cvJQ+)
Spot on. I despise judgy people, but we've taken " judge not lest ye be judged" too far. Kept our peace when we should have called out sin for what it was. It doesn't mean you shouldn't judge, it means that you better have your own house in order before you try to "help" someone else order theirs.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at June 20, 2025 04:08 PM (ciYHQ)
Its because of the trans. They trained their mind to pretend they saw a guy in a skirt as a woman. They failed to consider that their subconscious would take notes. Now the uncomfortable parts of their reality are being edited without their knowledge or permission. The ones we're seeing now were already in the margins of mental health
Posted by: Fenrisulven at June 20, 2025 04:15 PM (ciYHQ)
How's that possible? What form of due process do they think Obama used that Trump can't? Did Obama actually deport them, or is it fudged numbers?
Like, fine then, let's return to the Obama era's due process procedures. But there's no way they are that efficient, or Trump's ICE team and Hogan would be using them.
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (gWBY1)
Whenever a 'migrant' was turned around at the border, Obama counted it as a deportation.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at June 20, 2025 05:12 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: rechill at June 20, 2025 05:28 PM (4PBYb)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 20, 2025 06:06 PM (wGqjj)
Posted by: GWB at June 20, 2025 10:28 PM (X1F+F)
Iran Refuses Trump's Offer to Negotiate a Deal, Stating That They Will Only Negotiate If Israel Gives Up the War
They want a ceasefire as a condition for talking about a ceasefire. This is the same position that Hamas has taken.
It's the Muslim way of war. I'm tired of it. I've been a bit sharp with people lately. I am just so sick of this endless cycle of Muslims murdering people in terrorist attacks and then crying to the press that they're the Real Victims Here when anyone fights back. At some point, they have to be taught that if they want war, they're going to get war. And not just a quickie bombing. A full, sustained campaign of bombing and assassinations. They need to feel what it's like to be afraid. They don't get enough of this. Their preferred method of "war" is to butcher and rape innocent civilians, then cry to the press that they're victims of "genocide." This gets all the European countries to condemn Israel, or the US, and then everyone stops making war back against the war-mongers, and the cycle continues. Forever, and ever, and ever, and ever. And why should they stop? They get to murder and rape civilians and then cry "genocide" and hide behind the skirts of Mama Media and the feckless dying Europeans and pay no price. Until this time. This is an important moment. This is when Iran and its proxy terrorist armies of Hamas and Hezballah finally learn what terror feels like themselves. And I don't want this to stop until all the terror masters are dead. So, Iran says they won't negotiate. I would love Trump to now announce, "The only reason the Ayatollah and his whole family of murderers is still alive is because I told Israel not to kill them, so that I have someone to negotiate with. But if the Ayatollah says he's not going to talk to me, then he has no use to me, and I'm telling Netanyahu to take him out." At any rate, David Strom links the Washington Post. As a precondition for negotiation, the Ayatollah wants Israel to surrender, despite Israel having all of the leverage. Refused. GFY and die burning in a hole.Trump offers to talk. Iran says "No." If this were high-stakes poker, you would say that Iran is calling Trump's bluff, believing that he doesn't want to intervene in the war directly, and also believing that Israel is incapable of taking out Iran's key nuclear site buried deeply under a mountain. Khamenei is gambling that his regime can ride out the storm and rebuild its nuclear program once Israel stops the bombing.Speaking of that: I don't think anyone needs this spelled out, but in case they do... This is not like Iraq where we had bad intelligence that Iraq was developing nukes. We know for a fact Iran is developing nukes. They openly brag about their uranium enrichment. Uranium has to be enriched up to a high fraction of highly-radioactive/unstable isotopes to be used in a bomb. Fuel for a simple reactor doesn't have to be highly enriched. If you're trying to create controlled reactions to safely produce heat (and thereby electricity), you don't want the entire pile of uranium all fissioning at once and blowing up your reactor. But for a bomb, obviously you do want as many atoms as possible to all split within microseconds of each other, releasing huge amounts of energy in less than a second. Iran openly brags that it's enriching uranium up to the nuclear-bomb standard. There are no reactors that require uranium enriched to weapons grade, and in fact I don't think you even could use uranium enriched to weapons grade in a reactor. I think it would almost immediately explode or go into an uncontrolled meltdown. So there is no question that Iran is enriching uranium to produce an atomic weapon. They say they're enriching it to weapons-grade for "peaceful energy production purposes," and if you believe that, you're a chump and a half. They haven't disclosed any new nuclear reactor designs that can use weapons-grade uranium. It's an obvious lie. They are producing weapons-grade uranium for the only use it is fit for, which is in a weapon. People against taking any action against Iran keep trotting out a Parade of Horribles to justify the opposition. What if Trump suddenly goes crazy and sends 100,000 troops to fight on Iran's soil? What if Trump suddenly reverses the entire premise of his candidacies for president and decides to take in tens of thousands of Iranian refugees? Those seem unlikely in the extreme to me. And while talking about these very unlikely scenarios, the Paulites studiously avoid talking about the extremely likely scenario of an apocalyptic Muslim cult which has repeatedly threatened to destroy the Great Satan -- and has threatened to send assassins to kill Trump and his family and his former advisors, even before he was re-elected -- having a nuclear weapon. And then another nuclear weapon. And then another and another and another and another, forever. And bear in mind, Iran already has intermediate-range ballistic missiles and they're simultaneously developing intercontinental ballistic missiles. Now why would they need to strike another continent if they would just be content to destroy Israel? Iran has also refused to suspend its intercontinental ballistic missile program, too. I'm sure they have a Mostly Peaceful use for them. The Iranian regime is on the precipice of being defanged and possibly defenestrated. I have no idea why people are so giddy about the prospect of saving this terrorist regime, which has attacked us repeatedly over the past 50 years of its bloody existence, just as it's on the brink of falling. And if we do save the regime -- well, then we've decided we want the Ayatollah to have the bomb and also intercontinental ballistic missiles. That is a major downside of the Paulite position, and it's such a huge downside those pushing the Paulite position simply refuse to talk about it. Or they blow it off claiming "Iran is not a direct, credible threat." Well, they've actually been killing Americans and funding terrorists for 50 years but sure, no "direct, credible threat." Not even when -- not if -- they have the atomic bomb and ICBMs to go with it. The idea that Iran will just be peaceful if we leave them alone and stop picking on them -- the sort of Blame American First claptrap we've heard too much of from the left -- is simply false. They wanted to kill Trump and his advisers before he was re-elected. Politico, eight months ago:Iran rejected calls from Western leaders to return to the negotiating table, asserting it would not continue nuclear talks while under attack by Israel. Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Friday that his country has discussed the possibility of reopening nuclear talks with Western leaders, but ultimately rejected offers due to ongoing Israeli attacks. "The Americans have repeatedly sent messages calling seriously for negotiations," the minister said during televised remarks. "But we have made clear that as long as the aggression does not stop, there will be no place for diplomacy and dialogue." According to reports, Mr. Araghchi and U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff have spoken on the phone several times since the outbreak of war between Israel and Iran last Thursday. During those talks, Mr. Araghchi reportedly told Mr. Witkoff that Iran could be more flexible on the nuclear issue if the U.S. pressured Israel to end the war."More flexible," though, does not mean ceasing its enrichment program, at least if multiple reports are to be believed. It is talking about "limiting" enrichment, but has drawn the line--it will not dismantle its enrichment capacity.
U.S. officials are coming to a troubling realization about Iran's repeated threats to kill Donald Trump and some of his former top generals and national security strategists: Tehran isn't bluffing -- and it isn't giving up anytime soon. Iran has been openly threatening Trump and those who oversaw his national security strategy since January 2020, when Trump ordered a drone strike killing Qassem Soleimani, then Iran's most powerful military general. Tehran has put out videos depicting the future deaths of Trump and others who helped orchestrate the Soleimani attack, pushed for their arrest and extradition and issued menacing statements promising revenge. U.S. intelligence community officials briefed the Trump campaign last month about assassination threats against the former president from Iran, with the Trump campaign saying they were warned the threat has "heightened in the past few months." The briefing followed a pair of assassination efforts on Trump this summer. No evidence has been presented to link those to Tehran. But Iran's efforts to kill Trump and former senior officials it has blamed for the Soleimani strike are even more extensive and aggressive than previously reported, according to a dozen officials familiar with the Iranian assassination threat. "This is extraordinarily serious," said Matt Olsen, the Justice Department's assistant attorney general for national security. "Iran has made it very clear that they are determined to seek retaliation against former officials in connection with the Soleimani strike."No direct, credible threat, huh?
POLITICO spoke with 24 people with direct knowledge of the Soleimani strike or the ensuing assassination threat, including current and former U.S. lawmakers, Secret Service agents, congressional aides and senior U.S. officials. Some were granted anonymity due to ongoing threats against them or the sensitivity of their work. They collectively painted a picture of a pervasive assassination threat that is much more concrete than the graphic videos, brash proclamations and menacing social media posts that have found their way into the public eye. They detailed hacking and digital surveillance efforts against the former officials and their family members, a drumbeat of personal FBI warnings about new threats from Iran, increasingly tense discussions about how to protect individuals amid ongoing plots, and efforts by suspected Iranian operatives to trail a U.S. official during a trip abroad.Again, this is the liberal Biden-supporting Let Iran Have Nukes Politico talking, not some kind of pro-war MAGA blog. For his part, Trump is taking Iran's threats to kill him and other American officials seriously. He announced that if Iran kills him, he has left his successor (JD Vance, unless they kill him as well) instructions to "obliterate" the regime.
Trump: “If Iran assassinates me, they will be obliterated. I left instructions." pic.twitter.com/plHL05bpQj
— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) February 4, 2025
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:15 PM (jc0TO)
Utterly and completely predictable. It's what they always say. The truly amazing thing is that some continue to fall for it.
Trump needs to say: "This isn't a negotiation. You will surrender your nuke facilities; all of them. If you refuse, Israel has my blessing to obliterate you. Questions?"
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:17 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 20, 2025 01:17 PM (sRoQh)
I noticed.
They just seem to be willing to sell out the USA for (insert cause here) just about anybody and anything.
I may have added Philadelphia just to show that there is no depth of depravity they will not sink to defending.
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 20, 2025 01:18 PM (Ft5W9)
Tucker has made himself into a nonentity. Nobody cares what he says. Brilliant move, Tucker.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:18 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 01:18 PM (ZIggv)
For that matter, these events are unusual and it is natural to wonder about their meaning. Nobody knows much, though.
Posted by: PG at June 20, 2025 01:18 PM (afPT4)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 01:19 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:19 PM (Riz8t)
They don't seem to understand that the negotiations are for their surrender.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:19 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 01:20 PM (jvJvP)
I think you probably could but it would require a complete redesign of the layout of the reactor and a lot of faith in the ability of the control mechanism to handle very small changes in attenuation.
It would buy you the ability to run the reactor longer without having to refuel with only a significantly higher risk of catastrophic failure.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:20 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 20, 2025 01:18 PM
*snort*
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:20 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 01:20 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 01:20 PM (od0dV)
Here we go...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 01:20 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (viF8m)
Ummm, it's probably best not to push your luck.
Posted by: The Imperial Japanese Privy Council at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (ExV1e)
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Well done.
Posted by: Turn 2 at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (6TlG5)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Fight Fight Fight at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:19 PM (jc0TO)
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Exactly. They are running out of missles, they're economy is shit, their people are mad and America is sick of it and Israel is ready to "get it done."
WTF are they hoping for? The dipshits who always capitulate I assume.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (PMtkd)
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Someone posted an article here, recently, that tabulated 1,500 murders, world wide, committed by muslims the previous month.
One normal, mostly peaceful month.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (rdVOm)
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Bibi had a good statement the other day, paraphrasing, we bomb nuke sites, they bomb hospitals.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (NwfFc)
Posted by: The DNC, and Tucker Carlson at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (Riz8t)
They've got thousands of willing followers milling around the various universities just itching to blow something up.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (3Ope8)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (UjdFS)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:18 PM (Riz8t)
It's not unlike the members of the judiciary who're slowly destroying the power of the judiciary AND making the public okay with that all to slow Trump down a bit.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (ExV1e)
Why they would want to do that, I can only speculate.
Jew hate?
I don't get Tucker's position here. I'm done with the smarmy asshole.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (93HQ8)
Posted by: The Ayatollah at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (An3vV)
They're doing what Persian rug merchants always do.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (viF8m)
Oh, c'mon. Nobody eats parsley.
Posted by: Emily Littella at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (a4NoL)
All it takes for regime change to work is to get rid of this week's President For Life, and let them know that if they screw up, we can come back. Then leave. Great powers have been doing this since the Romans.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (od0dV)
At some point, they have to be taught that if they want war, they're going to get war.
Amen, brother.
They can't seem to take 'NO.' or even 'Fuck NO.' for an answer from us infidels, can they?
Sometimes bullies needs their asses kicked to learn a lesson, not a good talking and a 'time out'.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (6ydKt)
I give Paul a pass on this particular motivation, but the anti-West sentiment has become a pro-Islam movement mostly because it's this week's thing.
Rand, I think, enjoys being the Devil's Advocate. He sees himself as a canary in the coal mine. His job is to keep us from doing something foolish by opposing any step that might lead to something foolish. Which is kinda dumb, but slippery slopes do happen, and they happen in geo-politics a lot.
Tucker is just a troll these days.
Posted by: spongeworthy at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (CDWlY)
(Though as we've seen, it looks like the Iranian military leaders siphoned a lot of it off to furnish and maintain ridiculous palaces and penthouses.)
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 01:24 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 20, 2025 01:24 PM (t9lPv)
We all are.
Look, if someone had a credible plan to do what you say and end this constant, unending nonsense in the middle east (and, to a lesser extent, around the world), I'd love to hear them out.
But it's very hard to think they're acting in good faith when they seemingly never are. Our institutions lie to us about absolutely everything at all times.
And it's impossible to ignore than previous "must act" actions the US and our allies have taken are often directly related to the current "must act" actions the US and our allies must take.
For example, if the CIA had not deposed Mosaddegh while also funding jihadist groups with the intent of fucking with the USSR (which was something like 20% muslim while the US was around 0% Muslim), then installed Pahlavi, a brutal dictator, then we very likely would not be in this position in the first place.
It's just this never ending circle jerk of CIA and (as Nixon called them) "the striped-pants faggots on Foggy Bottom" lying to us and covering up their own fuck ups.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:24 PM (uCjyK)
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*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Barak H Obama at June 20, 2025 01:24 PM (Dv3i1)
Why would we even get involved at this point?
Clean up duty?
I'm in favor of gifting a couple B-1's from the desert graveyard to our allies to do what feels right..
But somehow that "gets us involved" differently than suppling fighters bombs...
Posted by: Inogame at June 20, 2025 01:24 PM (53oGX)
***And I don't want this to stop until all the terror masters are dead.***
Round of applause, continues to Standing ovation.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 01:24 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: MOP at June 20, 2025 01:24 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 20, 2025 01:25 PM (a4NoL)
Many here were inexplicably surprised to see the GOP and the Courts hemming up Trump immediately, without even pretending for one minute that they consider him President.
If we get involved here, they'll be just as surprised when, in ten or twenty years, we are withdrawing our forces from a fully nuclearized Iran after our generals and Senators grow even more grotesquely wealthy in the process of deliberately losing this war.
It's no small thing that Trump got elected. But that alone is far from changing the face of our regime.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:25 PM (BI5O2)
The truth is we have many reasons to attack them, including the non-insignificant fact that they declared war on us 50 years ago, and have been directly and indirectly murdering Americans ever since.
If you make it all about about how close they are to nukes, I think you lose that argument because (1) nobody knows and (2) BUT WHAT ABOUT IRAQ AND WMDS??????
Fuck these people. I hope Israel burns the entire country off the map.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 01:25 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 01:25 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 01:25 PM (NpAcC)
Utterly and completely predictable. It's what they always say. The truly amazing thing is that some continue to fall for it.
Trump needs to say: "This isn't a negotiation. You will surrender your nuke facilities; all of them. If you refuse, Israel has my blessing to obliterate you. Questions?"
Posted by: Archimedes
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Kinda reminds me of the Japan Emperor after Hiroshima.. we will talk after a ceasefire and only after a ceasefire.. ok, drops another on Nagasaki - how about now?
Why yes, we are available to speak and right now.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM at June 20, 2025 01:25 PM (dEaCb)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 01:25 PM (+qU29)
/s /s /s /s
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 01:26 PM (XeU6L)
Utterly and completely predictable. It's what they always say. The truly amazing thing is that some continue to fall for it.
Trump needs to say: "This isn't a negotiation. You will surrender your nuke facilities; all of them. If you refuse, Israel has my blessing to obliterate you. Questions?"
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:17 PM (Riz8t)
PDT needs to include this demand: "You will surrender all uranium in your country.'
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 01:26 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2025 01:26 PM (j4U/Z)
......
It's just the delivery system for their new business venture: Ayatollah Prime.
They sell sand and rocks, you know, landscaping stuff.
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 01:26 PM (UjdFS)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 01:26 PM (1IUvn)
Huge efforts to convince the world that they have a nuke and can win
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 01:26 PM (NwfFc)
check the Babylon Bee. Hysterical reveal.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:27 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (a4NoL)
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From watching most of Tucker's podcasts, I can only guess that he's forming his opinions from a staunchly Christian standpoint, not from a "I run the free world and shit is complicated" standpoint.
Yes, killing innocents is bad, Tucker. I agree with you. But will it have to be done to stop the insanity (at least for a while), yes.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 20, 2025 01:27 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:27 PM (93HQ8)
Posted by: Archimedes
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Kinda reminds me of the Japan Emperor after Hiroshima.. we will talk after a ceasefire and only after a ceasefire.. ok, drops another on Nagasaki - how about now?
Why yes, we are available to speak and right now.
Exactly what I was thinking of.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:27 PM (Riz8t)
So that illusion has to be disposed of as well. Add that to the three Israeli goals and it all adds up to regime change. Like it or not, those bearded assholes have to go. I sure wish the Iranian people would take care of that problem, but if they do not someone has to do so.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 20, 2025 01:28 PM (HbDey)
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (An3vV)
I'm not on Trumps national security team but all I've seen him suggest that the US do is drop a couple bombs on a specific site.
That having been said, we've been in a one-sided war with Iran since they declared war on us in 1979.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:28 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 20, 2025 01:28 PM (qUkBO)
Note that the essence here is being as nearly alone as possible. Who is right and who wrong doesn't actually arise.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 01:28 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: pookysgirl, watching Rachmaninov again at June 20, 2025 01:28 PM (Wt5PA)
If we get involved here, they'll be just as surprised when, in ten or twenty years, we are withdrawing our forces from a fully nuclearized Iran after our generals and Senators grow even more grotesquely wealthy in the process of deliberately losing this war.
It's no small thing that Trump got elected. But that alone is far from changing the face of our regime.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:25 PM (BI5O2)
Agreed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:28 PM (uCjyK)
And people act like this is just going to be some clean operation, and there will be zero fall out from war against Iran. We don't even know what the humanitarian consequences will be from the ongoing war with Gaza, and now we're supposed to fully on board with war in Iran?
People like Ace and Mark Levin want to smear everyone not fully supportive of this war as hyper-isolationist Paulite Qatari grifter anti-semites or whatever, but there isn't a clear objective nor is there any indication of what the plan is down the road. After the fall, who's going to keep the peace? Are we going to allow the nation to descend into ethnic anarchy? Are we on the hook for humanitarian aid? If you're in favor of action in Iran, I think you have a responsibility to spell it all out.
Posted by: wat at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (Dk542)
Posted by: PG at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (afPT4)
Posted by: Locarno at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (x5Bel)
I'm content to let Israel bomb the shit out of Iran until there is nothing but bounding rubble. Then bomb the rubble.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (viF8m)
But I don't really trust Trump, he said he would end the war in Ukraine on Day 1. But then he signed some silly "rare earth minerals" deal and the money keeps flowing. Will Trump involve US troops for an oil deal in Iran? Probably.
Posted by: Eldo at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (kRhM/)
Do you have a newsletter, perchance?
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (rdVOm)
I am certain the left makes the exact same calculation when it comes to the original sin of slavery in the US. They will justify anything and everything as long as they can tie it in any way to that.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (lIio7)
If it was here, that would backfire. But if in Europe, then they'd all be piling on us to back off. If that matters.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (IG2sK)
Our boys will be home by Christmas!
Posted by: JasonG at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (3+0We)
I don't believe he's a Christian. He never was before. He was always the atheist cosmopolitan sophisticated Yankee type before. I think his embrace of Christ is a commercial move and it makes him a better polemicist for his largely Christian audience.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (KRtlO)
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Four men plead guilty to $550 million USAID fraud scheme
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Shit happens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: doug at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (Hy+R4)
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I think it was cluster bombs aimed at civilians.
Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (jc0TO)
It's just exasperating.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (uCjyK)
Oh, and I stumbled across this extraordinarily weird and creepy corner of the Prophet's life yesterday. Maybe one of the mullahs can be prevailed upon to explain this story before he's vaporized.
https://tinyurl.com/4vbr6y78
Posted by: Paco at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (TdCYS)
This ain't war fighting to gain a strategic stop gap against the spread of communism.
I'm a bit of an isolationist myself but these are exigent circumstances.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (93HQ8)
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 20, 2025 01:22 PM (a4NoL)
I think he's trying to build a successful podcasting business, and he'll fall in with whatever successful podcasters are saying. I suspect if guys like Rogan and Dillon and so forth were pro-Israel, he'd sound much different right now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (BI5O2)
We Crusaded to the Holy Land, and all we got was this lousy t-shirt and centuries of do-gooder condemnation.
Posted by: Knights Templar at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (MTz2u)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (viF8m)
Hey Cap'n Jack, aren't you supposed to go through the litany of other par words first, like parsnip, and parsley?
Poor form there, mate.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (FCbAQ)
No war. We've spilled enough blood and treasure over there.
Posted by: ghost of kari
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No blood, but I can compromise on losing a little treasure to the tune of one MOP and the fuel it takes to deliver it. I don't see that as "What if Trump suddenly goes crazy and sends 100,000 troops to fight on Iran's soil?"
Posted by: Your Betters at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (lCaJd)
Strait of Hormuz renamed to MAGA Strait.
Speed boat racing resumes without needing Gun Ships.
Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (FhXTo)
Gaslighting. Trying to frame Israel as the aggressor, after lobbing missile after missile at Israel.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: MAC V SOG at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (P4Pk9)
You're so right. For example, we never talk about nuking Great Britain or France. I dunno, perhaps it has something to do with the 50 years of hysterical threats against us, the thousands of dead and maimed at their hands, and the active attempts to build a bomb to obliterate Israel, one of our top allies, and then to follow that up with an attack on us. Could be. Might be worth your consideration.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (Riz8t)
Oh I have an answer to that: I could give a fuck about the humanitarian consequences for Gaza and, for that matter, Iran, or any of these other shithole nations.
You've kind of exposed yourself here.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 01:32 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2025 01:33 PM (SXxzC)
Posted by: Skip
Pallets of cash will get the ball rolling.
Posted by: Ayatollah at June 20, 2025 01:33 PM (UjdFS)
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Also don't forget that Iran, twice last year, shot hundreds of missiles and drones at Israel.
This is a continuation of the same war with Iran and its proxies Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis that began on 10/07/23.
The war didn't end on 10/07.
That was just the first battle, which Iran & Co. started out of nowhere on a peaceful Jewish holiday.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 01:33 PM (6ydKt)
I have trouble finding any other reason for it. For two years he's done nothing but attack Israel and attempt to convince his largely-christian audience that Israel hates christians. He had on a Christian Palestinian, probably from Gaza, to talk about how mean the Israelis were.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:33 PM (KRtlO)
Translation: we are helpless to stop the Israeli bombing.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:34 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2025 01:34 PM (xTIDn)
This is to say that being anti-war as an endpoint (No War Ever) instead of a simple bias (War Is Not Preferable) is not very thoughtful imo.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 20, 2025 01:34 PM (N05TY)
Oh I have an answer to that: I could give a fuck about the humanitarian consequences for Gaza and, for that matter, Iran, or any of these other shithole nations.
You've kind of exposed yourself here.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (KRtlO)
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I do care about ruminantian consequences. Which will be positive. The Gazan goats will be much happier.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 01:34 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:33 PM (KRtlO
Old money racism runs deep.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:34 PM (93HQ8)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:34 PM (KRtlO)
But, I also want the Iranian people free, and the mullahs to hang for their crimes. And that's can't happen without someone spilling blood and spending treasure. I'd just rather it not be us. But then who?
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 01:35 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:35 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 01:35 PM (Eng1Z)
Then that's by choice.
It has been pointed out, repeatedly, that Iran declared war on the US in 1979. A declaration which Iran has never rescinded. Iran, and Iranian proxies, has attacked US interests continually since that declaration in 1979.
We are, in fact, at war with Iran. Either we choose to do something aimed at ending it or we choose to allow them to continue killing Americans without consequence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:35 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Northernlurker
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Because Europeans hate jewish people.
Posted by: Eldo at June 20, 2025 01:35 PM (kRhM/)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2025 01:35 PM (SXxzC)
G-d forbid the world should lose its precious Palestinians, our most important natural resource.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:36 PM (BI5O2)
You've kind of exposed yourself here.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (KRtlO)
Iran put the Hamas/Gaza pawn onto the board.
They don't get to complain when it's taken off the board.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 20, 2025 01:36 PM (N05TY)
The old ways are the best ways and they worked.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 20, 2025 01:36 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:36 PM (jc0TO)
Pfffft. Has there been a mushroom cloud anywhere over Tel Aviv? No? Well then, there's no imminent problem and it's all Israel's fault.
/s
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:36 PM (Riz8t)
honestly the only thing that we even would be required to do, if Israel can't manage it, is bomb Fodrow and a couple other nuke sites. We don't have to take out the leadership; Israel has Mossad agents working with Iranian dissidents to kill them all.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (KRtlO)
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Victory is the only way to stop a "cycle of violence."
Posted by: Methos at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (Dnobf)
By any means necessary.
The nuclear facilities are impotent without someone providing money, and direction. It's not like they run themselves.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (Q4IgG)
If you haven't then be advised I chose the nicest terms I could to describe them.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (MkuC5)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (3Ope8)
You've kind of exposed yourself here.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (KRtlO)
Unfortunately ace, we have to care. Because once Iran is bombed to shit, the people won't want to stay there. This will be the cause / excuse for a fresh round of Muslim migration to Europe and the US.
I doubt Putin is signing up to take in 90 million "refugees" from Iran.
So then our next best option is to say "fine, we'll spend a shit ton of money rebuilding your country so you stay there" which, well... see: Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. etc.
It's just ... we've seen this movie before.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:35 PM (KRtlO)
Not to blow sunshine up your squeak hole, but you're the only media personality that doesn't flip flop with the current popular opinion crowd.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (93HQ8)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
I used to like Candy Owens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (L/fGl)
Which makes sense.
Iran used to think that it had deterred Israel because any attack on Iran would cause Hamas to launch thousands of missiles at Israel, and Hezbollah to launch tens of thousands of missiles at Israel.
Without Hamas and Hezbollah, Iran needed a new deterrent, and quickly: thus, full speed ahead on a nuke.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (xTIDn)
DC: we'll just run the debt up even greater.
Iran: drat, foiled again
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: night lifted at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (FZn/N)
Then that's by choice.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (Riz8t)
- there isn't a clear objective - drop bombs on the nuke site
- After the fall, who's going to keep the peace? - not us
- Are we going to allow the nation to descend into ethnic anarchy? - does Iran have warring ethnics tribes? I don't think so.
- Are we on the hook for humanitarian aid? - no
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (ExV1e)
And people act like this is just going to be some clean operation, and there will be zero fall out from war against Iran.
Posted by: wat
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Who's acting like that? Of course if the government falls in a nation of 92 million that has its share of bloodthirsty tribalists and grudge-holders there's going to be chaos. Everyone knows that and no one wants it. I don't blame Trump for deciding he's not going to fail to get a deal for lack of trying, but there's a red line.
Posted by: Your Betters at June 20, 2025 01:38 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2025 01:38 PM (ymT3i)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2025 01:38 PM (WPL6O)
Pfffft. Has there been a mushroom cloud anywhere over Tel Aviv? No? Well then, there's no imminent problem and it's all Israel's fault.
/s
Posted by: Archimedes
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I dont even think a nuke going off in Tel Aviv would make a difference in how the world deals with Israel.
They basically had their own 9/11 inflicted on them and the world still uniformly backed Hamas.
Posted by: Eldo at June 20, 2025 01:38 PM (kRhM/)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2025 01:38 PM (lCaJd)
I believe that was the Fattah-1 hypersonic missile Iran recently started lobbing at Israel. Iran believed they could not be intercepted and would be an Iron Dome buster. Israel still has a high interception rate, but I don't know the Fattah-1's success rate.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 01:38 PM (lIio7)
We can figure the rest out after that. There is nothing to talk about.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 01:39 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: doug at June 20, 2025 01:39 PM (Hy+R4)
Posted by: Your Betters at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (lCaJd)
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Raaagghh, that sock makes it look like sarc. But I meant it!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2025 01:39 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: WitchDoktor
Yeah, it's a position that's fun for thought experiments and high school debate team. Not useful in the real world. If no war under any circumstance is your stand, you've basically cut off your legs in any conflict.
This we'll defend?
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 20, 2025 01:39 PM (ftFVW)
Posted by: Locarno at June 20, 2025 01:29 PM (x5Bel)
I question the assertion that submarines use weapons grade uranium. More highly refined than civilian I can see but not weapons grade.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:39 PM (ExV1e)
exactly. It's like that Star Trek episode, a Taste of Armageddon, where the war is fought by computer simulations and those "killed" according to the simulation just report dutifully to the disintegration chambers.
We've made war too clean and easy and even pleasant for our enemies. People we "defeat" in war *don't feel defeated.* We're frankly spending too much money and too many American lives to make sure that not a single civilian is hurt.
We don't bomb cities-- we just take out electric grids, which we then have to send troops to repair. And those troops are killed by terrorists while trying to restore power.
Meanwhile, they're deliberately bombing hospitals and raiding music festivals.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:39 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Bang-a-gong at June 20, 2025 01:39 PM (SRiFu)
Posted by: Paco at June 20, 2025 01:40 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 20, 2025 01:40 PM (tykPk)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:30 PM (KRtlO)
Agreed. "By their fruits you shall know them" and all that.
Posted by: pookysgirl likes grapes at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM (Wt5PA)
We don't even know what the humanitarian consequences will be from the ongoing war with Gaza,
Who cares?
After the fall, who's going to keep the peace? Are we going to allow the nation to descend into ethnic anarchy?
We wouldn't want to interfere in Iranian domestic politics, would we? I'm confident that the Iranians can work that out for themselves.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM (y9nCu)
thank you.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Django at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM (Ef4Ak)
Posted by: Bang-a-gong at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM (SRiFu)
Posted by: PaleRider at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM (bP/i4)
I doubt Putin is signing up to take in 90 million "refugees" from Iran.
So then our next best option is to say "fine, we'll spend a shit ton of money rebuilding your country so you stay there" which, well... see: Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. etc.
Why do you assume that refugees from Iran will come here or to Europe? Letting a bunch of 3rd world savages into our countries was a choice. We simply have to choose not to. As to spending money rebuilding Iran, I ask again, why? They have some of the world's largest oil reserves, and if they spend it on their country and not nukes and nutcases in the rest of the ME, they'll be fine. Regardless, it is again our choice to give them money or not. I opt for not.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (Riz8t)
We've got the intelligence and smart weapons to do that. Why kill a soldier following an order. Kill the order giver. And the guy who replaces him.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (93HQ8)
Given that Trump is not the head of state foe either belligerent, he can't actually end the war. He can just push for it.
When did Trump authorize more money for Ukraine? The silly "rare earth minerals" deal was an effort to recoup some of the money already spent.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Boromir (deceased) at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (KRtlO)
Trump can't/won't stop funding Ukraine that's a complete lost cause because someone hoodwinked him that we'll get some silly mining deal.
You really have to be naive to think Ukraine is going to cut us some multi billion dollar check in the future for mineral rights.
Posted by: Eldo at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (kRhM/)
Posted by: Don, the Rebel without a Blog at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (DJ5dK)
that's what Iran and Hamas do
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (V6W16)
I dont want any further wars in the ME but this really is a
golden opportunity to deal with fifty years of festering unfinished business . Let Israel take point; they aren't likely to grow the mission beyond breaking shit and killing dudes. Sell/lease/lend whatever's needed and maybe airstrikes and naval ops, but if we put boots on the ground Washington won't sleep until they can thoroughly fuck up everything.
Posted by: Locarno at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (x5Bel)
thank you.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM
You have changed, for the better in my mind, but it is a slow grinding evolution, like a glacier wiping out an alpine village.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (jc0TO)
Why they would want to do that, I can only speculate.
Jew hate?
I don't get Tucker's position here. I'm done with the smarmy asshole.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Money from Qatar and Saudi land plus Tucker's ole man was CIA I think. That particular version of DC public interest is not well reported while people shriek about AIPAC.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Cucker Tarlson at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (8iNlE)
Posted by: Django at June 20, 2025 01:41 PM (Ef4Ak
That greedy homosexual sadist is probably running through half a dozen catamites a night as this unfolds. I'm sure he's in high ardor.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:30
Interesting. Well stated.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (SXxzC)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (ExV1e)
On that day, I went from soft-left to hard-hard-hard right.
Since then, I have matured a little and gained wisdom with age, and evolved to hard-hard-hard-hard-hard-hard-hard right.
And now I know that this didn't start with 9/11. That was simply the day the scales fell from my eyes. Osama bin Laden was committing terror attackxs in the '90s. the Mujahideen a Hezbollah in the '80s. Palestinian hijackings and atrocities in the '70s.And back and back and back it goes, and you finally raise your head and look backward over the horizon of history and you realize with hrror that this all started in 600AD with some pychotic cult leader named Mohammed whose followers galloped out of the desert with scimitars and started a 1,500-year "jihad" which has continued uninterrupted since that time. And that this jihad has been one of the main determinant features of human history for the last millennium and a hlaf. The only fact that has prevented us from remembering this is that occasionally we successfully defeat them in battle and things go quiet for a while. Until they regroup and continue the jihad unabated.
Finish them.
Posted by: zombie at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (pMi6S)
I don't want a war. I don't know anyone who does. But I want a bunch of religious freaks who believe allah commands them to kill all non believers having nukes even less.
Nobody who carries wants to shoot anyone. Some times you don't get a choice. If the intel shows Iran is near breakout with a nuke someone has to stop them. This isn't or North Korea. This lunatics will use a nuke.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (93HQ8)
Posted by: John Bolton at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (Htufl)
In the midst of the nuclear fever of the 1940s, when atomic energy was seen as a symbol of progress, a cereal company decided to make history... although not exactly for safe reasons.
In 1947, the Kix brand launched an unusual promotion: for just 15 cents and a box of cereal, children could receive the Lone Ranger Atomic "Bomb" Ring. A futuristic ring containing... Poland-210.
Yep, radioactive material.
The ring had a small "magic camera" with zinc sulfur screen. Glowing thanks to polen emitted alpha particles. Theoretically, harmless .. as long as they don't enter the body.
But polonium-210 is one of the most lethal isotopes that exists if inhaled or ingested. And yet no one seemed to care. Enthusiasm for the atomic age was so great that child safety has taken a background.
Today, this ring is preserved as a curious museum relic. A reminder to that naive time when radioactive was synonymous with modernity... and not out of danger.
Because there was a time they put polish on toys. And no one found it crazy.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 01:44 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 01:44 PM (ITkJX)
- After the fall, who's going to keep the peace? - not us
- Are we going to allow the nation to descend into ethnic anarchy? - does Iran have warring ethnics tribes? I don't think so.
- Are we on the hook for humanitarian aid? - no
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:37 PM (ExV1e)
Just like Iraq in 2002 -- they don't TODAY, but that's largely because they live under a dictatorship.
Persians are something like 60% of the population. Turks, Azerbaijanis (sp?), Kurds, etc. etc. all have significant minority populations.
Nobody knows what's going to happen in a power vacuum. Turkey has their own thoughts on Iran and on the Kurds, and they're no small player in the area. Russia is right next door and Iran is one of their sort of allies, how are they going to react?
Iraq is heavily influenced by Iran, what's the future look like in Iraq without the Mullahs?
I don't know the answer to any of those questions, but neither does anyone else. And no one is even asking the questions.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:44 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:44 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 01:44 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Paco at June 20, 2025 01:44 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:33 PM (KRtlO
Hmmm. I wonder if that's where an acquaintance of mine got his story about Israeli Jews hating Christians. I asked Biden's Dog about it, and it sounds like there is a certain amount of that, to my surprise. But I had assumed that it was mostly happening with culturally-"Christian" people who were making themselves odious to Israelis by being problems.
Posted by: Emmie at June 20, 2025 01:45 PM (rF2iL)
NOTHING will change radical islam. Any attempt for reform you die, infidel! Due to the koran (note I don't capitalized on purpose), they are told to kill for for the caliphate. They are allowed to lie to anyone for their cause in the koran (taqiyya), and this is what the West falls for. Democracy or modern islam, my ass.
Meanwhile, for decades, they take over entire no-go areas of Paris and other cities in Europe and create voting blocks. Elect their officials in government.Burn churches and kill priests.
The caliphate that Mark Steyn talked about twenty years ago exists and is winning in Rotherham, UK.
Nothing will change this, especially a new moolah/sp in Iran. They are all of the same stripe. Those that are "moderate" fear the label of infidel if they attempt reform. It continues. This cancer won't end until eradicated. We have weapons no one knows about. They should fear and I hope someday they do.
I spy on reddit for laughs. Yesterday they went from fear of Trump killing Iran to he's a chicken. Complete idiots, I know, but it is reflected in comments on the idiotic UK DM. A swarm of ingrates rise up from nests.
Prayers for wisdom for Trump/Vance, etc.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2025 01:45 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: MAC V SOG at June 20, 2025 01:31 PM (P4Pk9)
Elvis. Not widely known.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:45 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2025 01:45 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 01:45 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: kallisto at June 20, 2025 01:45 PM (dCxaZ)
In other words, Israel attacked because it was possible to do. The timing itself was contingent on making sure Israel could concentrate on Iran and wouldn't have to fight a multi-front war. But the attack was inevitable.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 20, 2025 01:46 PM (X1iDB)
Posted by: PaleRider
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Camp David Accords by Carter set out the formula. Over three billion dollars per year for Israeli military aid and one billion and a bit for the Egyptian military. Been that way since 1978.
Essentially we bribed Israel to get it to release the Sinai and Gaza back to Egypt (except Egypt no longer wanted Gaza) and bribed the Egyptian military to stay a US client (prior to Sadat they were a Soviet one) and not attack Israel.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:46 PM (ctrM5)
It's just this never ending circle jerk of CIA and (as Nixon called them) "the striped-pants faggots on Foggy Bottom" lying to us and covering up their own fuck ups.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:24 PM (uCjyK)
The only way to run a majority-muslim country is to be a brutal dictator. And true democracy is antithetical to the muzzie mindset. If they aren't at your feet, they are at your throat.
Posted by: Pete Buttigeig at June 20, 2025 01:46 PM (W50D/)
the other day the thought crossed my mind that if Kumswalla was at the helm of today's very scenario, we truly would be on the brink of WW3
Posted by: kallisto at June 20, 2025 01:46 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 01:47 PM (fV+MH)
This. Absolutely this. There is a reason ancient societies were so harsh, yet valued and honored diplomacy. And were aghast when someone mistreated envoys or representatives. The Mongols would have annihilated the entire lot of them down to the last man for a tenth of what they have done. The Romans would have ground them into the dust and sold whoever remained into slavery.
Deal in good faith, or not at all.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 01:47 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 01:47 PM (K9XnW)
The fact that you're asking the questions tells me that you expect us to try to shape the country post-ayatollah. How about we don't do that, and just tell them "if you FA, be prepared to FO. Other than that, what you do in your country is your business."
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:47 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 01:47 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 01:48 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:43 PM (ctrM5)
I personally can't stand Tucker Carlson, he's like nails on a chalkboard to me and has been since I first came to know about him when he wore a bowtie on CNN or MSNBC or whatever, so with that background, I don't watch his podcast or listen to him, even if I would agree with him on some things.
That said, his dad WAS in the CIA, and as Putin heavily intimidated in his interview with Tucker (the only time in the past I dont know how many years I've listened to Tucker), Tucker is also connected to US intel agencies.
Which I find very interesting. Not sure what it means, but it probably means something.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:48 PM (uCjyK)
Seems easier than spending a few trillion in blood and treasure.
Posted by: Eldo at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (kRhM/)
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I worked with a guy named Paco. He loved to squeeze out egg farts while he was sharing a 4th floor scaffold with you on a hot, humid morning. Evil, he was.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (FmapG)
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I think the IAEA mentioned this as well. It was surprising that an international agency was, on the surface, honest with their assessment. I've seen posts about Iran having enriched their Uranium stockpiles way beyond the allowable limit and in greater quantities than they reported.
One article said Iran had all the components necessary to assemble up to 10 - 12 warheads.
Since none have been tested, that we're aware of, the only question was if they'd work as advertised.
That Iran was going to use them is a given.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (Q4IgG)
Iran isn't being "bombed to shit". Very specific locations are being hit. There's video of people filming bombings from just a mile of so away - completely untouched.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)
Thanks, Ace!
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (FhMCZ)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (QmM6R)
That's basically what happened to Iran in 1979.
Ending the mullacracy would be the greatest gift anyone ever gave to the Persians.
Posted by: zombie at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (pMi6S)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (IG2sK)
That's when he began to show he would air any conspiracy theory that he thought would get him clicks.
Initially I just thought, "Well, no one likes the smothering regime of gatekeeping censorship, so it's a good thing to air ideas that seem strange or even heretical."
But then he kept up with the UFO beat week after week after week.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:47 PM (Riz8t)
Because I live in the real world and I know that is not going to happen.
This is why I (and others) are making Iraq comparisons. Or Afghanistan. Or Libya. Or Syria.
It always ends up being our problem, no matter how much we say it shouldnt be.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (YUL+W)
We've got the intelligence and smart weapons to do that. Why kill a soldier following an order. Kill the order giver. And the guy who replaces him.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (93HQ
You mean the War Pigs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc5Nk1DXyEY
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (SXxzC)
Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Emmie
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The native Christians in the area are Arabs, not converted Jews and the PLO, Black September, etc. had a fair number of Christians in them.
Plus you have residual resentment of rule by the Byzantines, Crusaders, and the Brits by some plus Ashkenazi emigres from Europe carried resentments for centuries of mistreatment there by the population including pogroms, ghettos, and ultimately the Holocaust.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Butch at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (nxlUr)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:44 PM (uCjyK)
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It's the same problem ever since Trump chose to bomb Syria after a chemical attack there in 2017.
"Oh! It's war!, but Trump promised! He's an idiot!"
Did we get involved on the ground in Syria?
How about Libya? Are there any Americans on the ground in Libya?
Do we have any, that we know about, on the ground in Ukraine?
Why do so many people think that we need to worry about nation-building after what's happened in the world over the past 15 years?
We do NOT have to do a thing, but prevent the Iranian mullahs from getting a nuke by bombing the hell out of everything they have.
Everything else after that is their problem and we can choose to help or not help, however Trump sees fit.
Stop mind-gaming yourself over worse-case scenarios that haven't even happened yet,.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (6ydKt)
Trump's instincts for peace are admirable, but I hope they don't get in the way of opening the door for the Europeans or the Chicoms to muddy up this moment of clarity. It does seem that he is moving all the proper assets into place to conduct an endgame war in Iran while while playing the game of we tried everything first.
Rare are the moments when military action is precisely the right action and at the same time is so clearly defined that it doesn't need to be an endless war. Taking out their nuclear sites and their ballistic missile sites will cripple the Mullahs regime. After that let the interested parties there kill each other off while they sort out who gets to be the new king.
Now Is the time to bring this to a conclusion.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (NXz8h)
Ah, the Trump is a God folks are here.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (Riz8t)
Israel acts against the confrontations/wars/terrorism from Islam, and that alone is reason enough to support Israel.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Paco at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (mADJX)
Deal in good faith, or not at all.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Say it again. Kill the Khomeinis, the Ayatollahs, the mullahs, all the military and intelligence leaders. All of them are part of the terrorist cancer metastasized.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 01:51 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 01:52 PM (lTGtQ)
Trump said he apologized, but Trump often says that his critics called him to apologize or beg him for a job. I don't know if it's always true.
I really can't see this blowhard apologizing.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:52 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 01:52 PM (MmNOR)
@ImMeme0
This is why I sometimes hate people!
https://tinyurl.com/4ms5p88p
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 01:52 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: pudinhead at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM
Chuy >>>>> Paco
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (ymT3i)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:47 PM (Riz8t)
Because I live in the real world and I know that is not going to happen.
This is why I (and others) are making Iraq comparisons. Or Afghanistan. Or Libya. Or Syria.
It always ends up being our problem, no matter how much we say it shouldnt be.
That assumes we (and by extension, Trump) are incapable of learning. Simply saying "we screwed it up in the past, so we always will" is not an argument.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (Riz8t)
I really can't see this blowhard apologizing.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:52 PM (KRtlO)
Especially after seeing his CNN level "gotcha" interview with Cruz.
Cruz didn't handle himself correctly, but Tucker was an obnoxious asshole that should've been punched in the mouth.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Salt. You forgot abut the salt.
Salt their fields so their civilization can never rise again.
Posted by: zombie at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (pMi6S)
Islam is, at its essence, a religion lacking morality, ethics and basic good will.
Other religions may disagree, but at the base there is a common ethos that can be appealed to in the interest of a common value and dignity of each human soul. One may have to dig through much error and dogma, but it may be found. An innate understanding that there is a universal truth of right and wrong.
Judaism has it.
Buddhism has it.
Sikhism has it.
Shintoism has it.
Zoroastrianism has it.
Notice these religions do not engaged in conflict with everyone everywhere like Islam.
Posted by: Minuteman at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (47/pr)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (W50D/)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (YUL+W)
Agreed on Ben Shaprio. Hannity annoyed me for different reasons, namely being a bloviating talking point machine. (annoys? Is he still on air?)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (W2Pud)
You've kind of exposed yourself here.
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So the regime change doesn't happen peacefully, and we go to war. What's going to happen to the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who are displaced and can't feed or take care of themselves? Who's going to be on the hook for that, the UAE? Israel's not going to be able to do it.
I'm not anti-Jew or Israel by any means, but I think on the right there is a climate where you can't question Israel's actions nor can there be any question if their foreign policy and ours is actually the same. Just because something is good for Israel doesn't mean it's good for us, and war with Iran is obviously one of those things. Iran can strike Israel, but they don't have the capability to hit us.
Shit I'm a DoD contractor, I should want this war but there's no upside for the nation. It doesn't advance any kind of position in the mid east. Maybe it's because I'm too young to have internalized all the stuff the happened in the 70's.
Posted by: wat at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (Dk542)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (/y8xj)
Iran almost certainly has nukes (I say that from theoretical knowledge and not real intel). What they don’t have and what they have been working for is miniaturization. That allows them to easily put them in undersea UAV’s and ballistic missiles and other hidie holes.
China btw got miniaturizable nukes from Wen Ho Lee when Clinton allowed Chinese national access to our nuclear secrets (that I DO know). Then Clinton gave them access to Loral ballistic missile control system tech.
I have long thought we didn’t belong in Ukraine for the exact reason we have seen. It has advanced war (that’s actually a good thing - we have seen how drones work and I think the military has been blind to the usage of cheap drones) but it has used up most of our munitions, put us further in debt, and distracted us from real enemies in Iran and China.
So go get ‘em Israel. I don’t care if your the Israel the Bible foretold. It’s enough you think so and have at ‘em!
Posted by: The MewTwix at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (bPxqT)
Trump is trying to end Iran's actual authoritarian leadership while Democrats are trying to end Trump's imaginary authoritarian leadership.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: John Bolton at June 20, 2025 01:55 PM (Htufl)
Smoke me a kipper, we'll be back for breakfast.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 20, 2025 01:55 PM (ERYKL)
You still have made a choice
Posted by: Crotalus Atrox at June 20, 2025 01:55 PM (JlZJW)
You rarely get the opportunity to real world test cutting edge ordnance.
Nor, to advertise it to your would be adversaries.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 01:55 PM (MmNOR)
That said, his dad WAS in the CIA, and as Putin heavily intimidated in his interview with Tucker (the only time in the past I dont know how many years I've listened to Tucker), Tucker is also connected to US intel agencies.
Which I find very interesting. Not sure what it means, but it probably means something.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The US, Britain, and Euroland in general have become much more soft regarding Muslim misbehavior because of the need for oil. It has essentially warped our entire foreign and military policy because current civilization requires it to function.
Unfortunately, states that are petroleum rich become something called rentier states--the rulers rely on bribing their populace rather than creating a genuine modern society that relies on taxation.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:55 PM (ctrM5)
I don't think Trump has any intention of nation building. There are a number of people already jockeying to lead Iran.
This isn't about taking out a functioning government and letting a bunch of religious nuts take over. This is about taking out the religious nuts who have already taken over and are widely despised by their countrymen and letting normal people back into power.
The GCC has oodles of cash and can much more easily help fill that void than we can. Probably a big reason Trump made his first international trip to the Middle East and not Europe like every other president.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:55 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 01:52 PM (MmNOR)
Risking the anti Semitic witch hunt.
There does seem to be an element among some jews who dislike, resent or are threatened by Christianity. Now whether this is history, many modern jews just being commies/liberals or something else I do not know. It is something I have noticed over the years.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 20, 2025 01:56 PM (YUL+W)
"Obviously" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:56 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 01:56 PM (1IUvn)
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The aliens were just asking probing questions.
Posted by: I'll see myself out at June 20, 2025 01:56 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 01:56 PM (nQcpu)
We've got the intelligence and smart weapons to do that. Why kill a soldier following an order. Kill the order giver. And the guy who replaces him.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 01:42 PM (93HQ
Oh, I doubt that.
Countries don't go to war in a vacuum. Usually, it involves getting the populace riled up enough to want the fight and provide the soldiering.
You have to spill enough blood that the populace thinks "fuck this" as well as the leadership.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 01:56 PM (iJfKG)
How long do we have to contemplate those questions? What degree of certainty is required? What percentage of the government must approve? How many attacks are Iran permitted to make during that time? Are they permitted to use nuclear weapons against Israel? Are they permitted to use nuclear weapons against the US?
I don't know the answer to any of those questions, but neither does anyone else. And no one is even asking the questions.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:57 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (fV+MH)
He's spent years telling everyone that Israel can take care of itself and doesn't need anyone........
Then why are we still sending them BILLIONS in assistance AND selling them weapons so they can survive in the middle east?
F*ck him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)
In all seriousness, this is when alarm bells began going off for me. He began making ominous statements about how the truth, when made known, was going to upend practically everything we believe (I kind of got the impression he meant with respect to religious belief, as well as mere historical factuality).
And then he just dropped the whole thing, and the next thing I know, he's gassing on about Churchill instigating WWII.
Posted by: Paco at June 20, 2025 01:57 PM (mADJX)
This has little to do with the thread. These are typically Democrat voters and only demographically Jewish.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2025 01:57 PM (EAdiF)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (Riz8t)
No, actually, it is an argument and it's a very strong one.
"in every war since WWII, we have failed as a nation to decisively win the war and to rebuild and fix the country with minimal blowback to the US, and with minimal cost."
In fact, other than Vietnam, which is a functional enough government, and Korea, which is constantly 30 seconds away from war, we have left the situation worse then when we found it, and it has cost us a ton of time, money, and energy to deal with.
I don't know how anyone who has been alive for the past 30+ years especially can't see that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:58 PM (uCjyK)
We’ve got thousands of crippled men and women who are certainly wondering that. Iran was the primary driver of IED warfare by the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and i’m certainly for that reckoning to occur.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 20, 2025 01:58 PM (f70Xg)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:58 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: PaleRider at June 20, 2025 01:58 PM (bP/i4)
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 01:58 PM (nQcpu)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 01:56 PM (1IUvn)
Ringo is still with us....
https://youtu.be/14mETz6byFU
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)
You still have made a choice
Posted by: Crotalus Atrox"
Mmmm...the Rush Doctrine.
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 01:58 PM (fV+MH)
It sounds like there was a family culture of strict patriarchy. From a NYT article about the history of the Swanson family, Omaha's "first family," and a reporting on their rise and fall:
"His daughters were expected to be attractive and quiet and to ignore those parts of life they weren't “smart enough” to understand, like money and business; his sons were expected to be strong, successful and at the same time submissive to his wishes. The Swansons were a patriarchy and Gilbert Sr. at- tempted to train his sons to fill his shoes."
There was a family history of depression and addiction. And there was a scandal of a Swanson progeny shouting black racial slurs in a restaurant.
https://tinyurl.com/45vhxu2k
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 01:59 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 20, 2025 01:59 PM (eZwyX)
There is more than one game being played here.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:59 PM (viF8m)
Some do. Because they've been taught that Christians hate them and want to convert them, i.e. make them not Jewish.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2025 01:59 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 20, 2025 02:00 PM (tykPk)
Posted by: toby928 from the future at June 20, 2025 02:00 PM (jc0TO)
I read somewhere that a heavy reliance on fatalism is their hall pass for everything they do, and for everything that happens to them.
Posted by: Paco at June 20, 2025 02:00 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (W2Pud)
I think that's the 3rd explosion on that type. I think they have an issue they haven't solved yet.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)
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I've seen this before. Was that Dynasty or Falcon Crest?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 02:00 PM (Dv3i1)
Not kidding, that’s what they believe.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (ymT3i)
I don't know the answer to any of those questions, but neither does anyone else. And no one is even asking the questions.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:57 PM (ExV1e)
Yeah, so we have a whole procedure for this in the Constitution for this very reason. Because people back then thought declaring war on a country was a big deal and the pros and cons and specifics and details should be debated by the people at large through their elected representatives.
I know it seems silly and antiquated now, but there is a reason US foreign policy has not gone so great in the post - WWII era.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (uCjyK)
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https://youtu.be/VUa26aCKrD0?t=187
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (K9XnW)
I still caution against thinking of only long range weapons. A cargo container carrying a lightly salted conventional bomb detonating in a major US port city would set off an almost unimaginable panic...
Posted by: Man at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (/Q8P0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (1IUvn)
There is more than one game being played here.
Posted by: JackStraw
Which is why China is sneaking cargo planes into iran loaded with solid rocket fuel and guidance parts.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (lTGtQ)
In fact, other than Vietnam, which is a functional enough government, and Korea, which is constantly 30 seconds away from war, we have left the situation worse then when we found it, and it has cost us a ton of time, money, and energy to deal with.
I don't know how anyone who has been alive for the past 30+ years especially can't see that.
As always, left unsaid is what would have happened had we not intervened. Regardless, you missed the point, which is that in every war since WWII we have opted for less than achieving our full goals. In this case, our goal is to destroy Iran's nuclear program. If the ayatollahs fall as a result, and I think they will, that's gravy. If we focus on that as our goal, and insist on achieving it, we, and the entire world, will be much better off.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (Riz8t)
Only thinking in terms of ICBM's is extremely shortsighted. They could dirty bomb a port and render it useless.
And it wouldn't have to be a huge bomb. Thanks to Hollywood, people's fears would be the killer.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (5WDkb)
The US Declaration of Independence is based on the concept that a People have a Right AND a Duty, to ensure they have a proper government.
By NOT holding citizens responsible for the actions of their government, they have no incentive to change said government... and the cycle continues.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (mP0Kj)
Being a Jew I can tell you that has never been my experience.
If anything, we just don't understand the appeal of Christianity to you. But we really don't give it much thought at all.
Proselytizing is not something we do. We aren't seeking to increase the flock.
So, what would be the benefit?
Now, you will find critique of the actions of some of the Churches re. Jews. RCC in WWII, etc.
But, that's not religious as much as political.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:02 PM (MmNOR)
Contrast to Iraq which was 40% Shiite, 30% Kurdish, with the wealthiest 20% being Sunni. All three of those groups have been trying to kill each other for millennia - that is not Iran at all.
Iran has a country, similar to Germany and Japan, which has sunk into fanatical despotism but has a strong tradition of civilization and of a peaceful society to fall back on; something none of the Arabs have ever had.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 02:02 PM (EVFZ5)
"I'll tell you what war is about, you've got to kill people, and when you've killed enough they stop fighting."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2025 02:03 PM (0sNs1)
There is more than one game being played here.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Drones.
Iran could build inexpensive suicide drones by the thousands. Russia was one of their biggest customers.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 02:03 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: rickb223
I wonder about this every day, twice a day as I pass by the Port of Seattle on my boat ride into the city.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 02:03 PM (W2Pud)
There is more than one game being played here.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:59 PM (viF8m)
Agreed, there is a lot of Great Game-style maneuvering going on in the world right now.
Some might even say it's completely unnecessary, and is not a good thing for the vast majority of Americans who don't stand to make money off Ukrainian rare earth minerals or Iranian oil, or the Chinese economy crumbling, or whatever. But they'd be labelled as crazy conspiracy theorists.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (uCjyK)
Most likely an upgrade. I'd like to find out for sure.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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What happened to the six sarcophagi with strange energy sources found earlier this week buried in the ice in Antarctica?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (PkOXB)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (W2Pud)
What do you suppose Elon was trying to sabotage?
Posted by: Emmie at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (nQcpu)
Posted by: Archer at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (ghLs+)
Now Iran doesn't want peace. But they do want a ceasefire. Why? They are losing.
So the correct response when they ask for a ceasefire is "These are still our terms, and the bombings will continue until you accept them".
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:05 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat
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I would agree that Ace presents the case for ending Iran's nuke program by US intervention as well as can be made.
I think Harry has done a yeoman's effort in explaining the risks and why the US should not get involved including numerous past interventions by the US where we spent blood and treasure on useless attempts to 'fix' the world.
That being said, Iran has repeatedly made war on the US, other nations via proxies, and refused to follow the NPT among other things. Assassinations, terrorist attacks including on the Grand Mosque in Saudi Arabia, occupation of the US embassy illegally, creating proxy armies in Iraq targeting US troops among others, attempting to assassinate DJT, funding Hezbollah, Houthis, and Hamas to kill US, Europeans, and Israelis, etc. etc.
They refuse to reform, they refuse to stop illegal actions according to international law, and purposefully threaten death to all that oppose them. Foolish to ignore their past record and whataboutism is ridiculous.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 02:05 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 02:05 PM (nQcpu)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:55 PM (ctrM5)
Which is why it's good we're almost energy self-dependent.
If we could get the climate fanatics off of our back we'd be at 100%.
Yet we're still having to deal with the Islamic world because God put so many of them them on top of an ocean of oil.
The EU is screwed, though.
They got Russia, MENA, and US to chose from.
It's too bad the French are the only ones who like nuclear power. That's about the only thing they can rely on other than the North Sea.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:05 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 02:05 PM (2bFN5)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 20, 2025 01:59 PM (eZwyX)
You're not my mom!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (W2Pud)
I don't believe that they've had even close to a successful phase 2 launch yet. I think they're still working shit out.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2025 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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What happened to the six sarcophagi with strange energy sources found earlier this week buried in the ice in Antarctica?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (PkOXB)
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"I made a movie about that, you know"
-- John Carpenter
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Archer at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM
Ummm, we're a little short-handed right now.
Posted by: Bureau of Seventy-Two Virgins at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Guy in Texas at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (uiawK)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 02:01 PM (Riz8t)
And when we went in to Iraq, we were told the goal was to decapitate Saddam, and that the people would rise up and become a Western style democracy.
No one said "there will be a 10 year occupation and nation building and military contractors and suicide bombs and, also, by the way, we're going to start bringing a TON of muslim immigrants to the US, most of whom don't like us." And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (nQcpu)
Same potential situation and predicable outcome.
We got North Vietnam back to the Paris negotiation table. That amounted to 'nothing'.
We lost the war by depending on the indigenous population to take the burden.
If we do this again, it is on us!
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Remember post WWI!
MacArthur reshaped Japan.
Today, Japan is a powerhouse on the world stage.
Posted by: john at June 20, 2025 02:07 PM (nEWxZ)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Smarmy! Been trying to find the right word to describe Tucker. That's perfect.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 02:07 PM (2bFN5)
You still have made a choice
Posted by: Crotalus Atrox
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Ah. Action through inaction.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2025 02:07 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: nurse ratched
Port of Long Beach.
Freak out ALL of LA.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 02:07 PM (5WDkb)
Hell, we’ve lost like 6 nukes that we know of. Losing bombs is what we do.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2025 02:07 PM (ymT3i)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (Riz8t)
Not always. But for now? It's a damned good argument. The postwar foreign service and policy establishment that lost every conflict it plunged us into for the last *seventy-five years* is still firmly entrenched, and it will lose this war too.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 02:08 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 02:08 PM (PCK5/)
This. Now think of, say, a, half dozen US ports with just the slightest levels of radioactive material.
Panic would be off the charts. It would be brutal.
Posted by: Man at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (/Q8P0)
Smarmy! Been trying to find the right word to describe Tucker. That's perfect.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 02:07 PM (2bFN5)
How about "seamy dougheyed poofter?"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (nQcpu)
>>Hell, we’ve lost like 6 nukes that we know of. Losing bombs is what we do.
Gonna have to lose a B2 as well. It's the only plane capable of dropping one of those bad boys.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (rdVOm)
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"You wouldn't hit a country with glasses, would you?"
- Iran
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (9C6BN)
No one said "there will be a 10 year occupation and nation building and military contractors and suicide bombs and, also, by the way, we're going to start bringing a TON of muslim immigrants to the US, most of whom don't like us." And yet...
The fact that you've outlined what happened so well is proof that people can learn. Therefore, we should avoid doing what Iraq taught us not to do. I think Trump has learned the lesson.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (viF8m)
Beautiful school though. Possibly the most beautiful campus I've ever been on.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (uCjyK)
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Cambodia and Laos fared quite poorly.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (BI5O2)
But, that's not religious as much as political.
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:02 PM (MmNOR)
I agree, that is my experience from the Christian side. There is a small but very loud online contingent doing everything they can to stoke animosity between Jews and Christians; to me about the worst right now is Candace Owens and her “Christ is King” followers. As a Christian, I am certainly aware of the significance and meaning of that phrase; but I and every Christian I know in real life considers what Candace is doing to be an evil, perverse, and sacrilegious hijacking of it for her own ungodly ends. She and her followers use it as a weapon against those that they hate; yet that was *never* the intent behind it. What she is pitching is blasphemy and perversion of the faith.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (EVFZ5)
Smarmy! Been trying to find the right word to describe Tucker. That's perfect.
Posted by: scampydog at June 20, 2025 02:07 PM (2bFN5)
How about "seamy dougheyed poofter?"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Entitled trust fund kid? Privileged Elite?
Posted by: tubal at June 20, 2025 02:10 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 02:10 PM (nQcpu)
WTF are they hoping for? The dipshits who always capitulate I assume.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (PMtkd)
There has always been this faction in the west that stops Israel when they get the upper hand. They saved the PLO from them in Beirut and got 300 US servicemen killed, they start projects t negotiate with the PLO and more recently Hamas for no positive effect.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:10 PM (8avO+)
- Iran
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (9C6BN)
No, but I'd be willing to provide you with more glass than you would ever need......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 20, 2025 02:11 PM (eZwyX)
Case in point, yesterday morning congressman max Miller got run off the highway by a guy flying a hamas flag and allegedly yelling at him: dirty jew. I'm going to kill you and your family.
This guy. . . A practicing physician. I have seen it too many times. Its practically a diabolical possession. Total loss of self control, to the point of self destruction. Negotiate with that, good luck.
Posted by: Duke Nuke em at June 20, 2025 02:11 PM (FuNJ6)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 02:04 PM (viF8m)
Beautiful school though. Possibly the most beautiful campus I've ever been on.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (uCjyK)
see even his parents couldn't tolerate him after so long.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:11 PM (8avO+)
Hell, we’ve lost like 6 nukes that we know of. Losing bombs is what we do.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Have we actually lost six, or have we screwed up the counts?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 02:11 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 20, 2025 02:11 PM (x2CMu)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)
Does it vary on how many virgins are necessary to generate sufficient interest in the endeavor?
And: does it say anywhere explicitly that these virgins are female?
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:59 PM (viF8m)
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If this comes out right there will be a great realignment in the Russia through M.E. region. There will also be hemispherical realignment with trade not war being the main driver.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (K9XnW)
Not too shabby. Great hockey rink, too.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (viF8m)
One, they are taught and believe the lie the Nazis and Hitler were Christian. Hitler might have used the majority religion of the west and of his birth to fool people and gain power, but he didn't believe in it. He was a demonic madman and the antithesis of everything actually Christian.
Two, they are of Jewish descent and are now secular, and pretty much hate all organized religion, and the backwards troglodytes that practice it. They've swallowed the lie in the song Imagine about no religion too.
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Guy in Texas at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (uiawK)
Well said.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (W50D/)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Guy in Texas at June 20, 2025 02:06 PM (uiawK)
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I think you're right on this.
The Shah-in-Exile already released a video saying pretty much exactly that.He's got a government in exile ready to go in, they'll have a transitional government, and then elections.
Whether or not that actually happens is a different story, but I think a lot of the Iranian public would go with that.
And then they can deal with the leftover fanatics like the fanatics dealt with people in 1979.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (6ydKt)
You still have made a choice
Posted by: Crotalus Atrox
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I don't think Neil thought that one through. If we live in a deterministic universe (not at all saying we do), then the choice not to make a choice was predetermined.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (ITkJX)
run for the hills!!!
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Posted by: KwaK! at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (89Sog)
I saw some leftwing Jewish guy talking about this and his argument was that sure Muslims will murder some number of my fellow Jews, but a sustainable number (and also the "bad" type of religiously observant Jews) whereas Christian evangelism is an existential threat to Jews everywhere because it could convert too many of them.
Now I think he was being more honest then most of his political compatriots, but he isn't wrong in the sense that Leftwing Identity Judaism is not a very satisfy world view for most people any more then say Leftwing Identity Catholicism is.
And the obvious answer is embrace what is supposedly your own religion or accept that people that want meaning in their lives will switch to one that offers it. Oh, and stop sacrificing your brethren to the beast of Islamism because you look down on them for actually believing in the religion that you claim to be a member of.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: Oldcat
They are scared shiteless of them. Bunch of dhimmies.
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (nQcpu)
Posted by: KwaK! at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (89Sog)
Indeed. Most of "the West" is under the delusion that all have the same goals and ideals. That sort of thinking will get one killed...
Posted by: Man at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (/Q8P0)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (BI5O2)
That's true. I was only including our overt wars, not our more covert wars.
But we can also look to central america for a great example of where our fucking around caused large term harm.
We deposed leaders over fucking bananas. That set in motion a series of events and coups and counter coups etc that led us to where we are today re: our central american amigos.
And no one ever says "well, listen, we shouldn't have tried to help United Fruit by overthrowing a government..." they say "what? Do you hate America!? Why don't you move to Greenland then!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (F31MH)
Except we've yet to win a game.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 02:14 PM (BI5O2)
So the regime change doesn't happen peacefully, and we go to war. What's going to happen to the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who are displaced and can't feed or take care of themselves? Who's going to be on the hook for that, the UAE?
First off, who cares?
But more importantly, Persians are NOT lazy, dumbass Arabs. Arabs will sit on their ass and whine about how the street is full of rubble. Persians may whine just as much as the Arabs, but they'll do it while they're picking up chunks of concrete and clearing the road.
And since Israel is making an effort to leave the oil infrastructure intact, the Persians will have plenty of resources to bootstrap themselves.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 02:14 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2025 02:14 PM (ymT3i)
Gonna completely ignore the "early life" meme are we?
Posted by: Patrick Bateman at June 20, 2025 02:14 PM (Htufl)
Case in point, yesterday morning congressman max Miller got run off the highway by a guy flying a hamas flag and allegedly yelling at him: dirty jew. I'm going to kill you and your family.
This guy. . . A practicing physician. I have seen it too many times. Its practically a diabolical possession. Total loss of self control, to the point of self destruction. Negotiate with that, good luck.
Posted by: Duke Nuke em
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Islam unfortunately lets adherents follow their darker impulses as well as their better ones. But all of their darker impulses are channeled into justification to attack non believers as non humans and subjugate children of the Book (Christians and Jews) by the sword.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (ctrM5)
And: does it say anywhere explicitly that these virgins are female
They aren't really human females. They are Houris which are some other type of creation by Allah that mostly look like humans and have the correct parts for sex.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (t0Rmr)
_Kill them all
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (K9XnW)
How many Afghan refugee did we take in?
Posted by: JasonG at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (3+0We)
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Islam and "secular" leftism are exactly the same.
Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (BMHsU)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 01:53 PM (Riz8t)
Not always. But for now? It's a damned good argument. The postwar foreign service and policy establishment that lost every conflict it plunged us into for the last *seventy-five years* is still firmly entrenched, and it will lose this war too.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 02:08 PM (BI5O2)
Yes, if put out in a logical manner. Too many of these argumenters sound like a jilted middle school girl more than a serious discussion. "They lied to me, waah!".
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (8avO+)
@nicksortor
#BREAKING: A federal judge has just ordered the RELEASE of Mahmoud Khalil, one of the architects of the pro-Hamas riots at Columbia University
This is INSANE! He’s NOT a U.S. citizen, and is OPENLY TERRORlZING American students at an American university
SEND HIM HOME
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (NpAcC)
Whether or not that actually happens is a different story, but I think a lot of the Iranian public would go with that.
And then they can deal with the leftover fanatics like the fanatics dealt with people in 1979.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:12 PM (6ydKt)
Last time we overthrew the government and installed a Pahlavi, that ended up with our embassy staff being taken hostage and 60 years or whatever of "death to America".
So I don't see what could go wrong here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 01:54 PM (W2Pud)
Long ago, I say next to a guy on an airplane who told me a story. There was some sort of launch, costing maybe $100M. Right before the launch, they distributed layoff notices to the launch team.
This didn't go over well with the team. They knew that the manuals and procedures were flawed, so to get their revenge - without getting in trouble - they simply did everything BY THE BOOK.
The rocket went up, but could not get into the right orbit - it was rendered useless.
It probably doesn't take much to push things off kilter in space flight, and all it takes is a very few pissed off turncoats.
Before, SpaceX would have mishaps, but it was always progressing further - things were being learned. It seems like the last two mishaps were a step backwards - flights not getting as far as they did before. In this last case, before even making it through routine testing.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Kurtz at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (te1DI)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM (EVFZ5)
What's she doing?
I don't keep up with her.
The last time I checked her out was over Macron's wife being a man.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (6ydKt)
How many Afghan refugee did we take in?
Posted by: JasonG at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (3+0We)
Quite a few when Biden abandoned the place, I'm not sure it was many when we won in the early 80s.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (ymT3i)
You can't.
Know islham. No peace.
No islham. Know peace.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (XAXi6)
I once turned left and got into a terrible car accident.
I should never turn left again, right?
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (MmNOR)
These figures largely reflect the evacuations conducted under Operation Allies Refuge and Operation Allies Welcome following the Taliban's takeover of Afghanistan in August 2021.
Posted by: Brave Searchbot at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (jc0TO)
You knew this was coming at some point;
Hitler finds out that that Iran is bombing Israel:
ps://x.com/DavidMKeyes/status/1936028154289602667
It's pretty good.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: JasonG at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (3+0We)
I don't know, but a lot. Probably millions. Internet says at least 200,000 since the Taliban took back over in 2021.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (6ydKt)
The last mutation of that is that she's not only a man, but his own father. I've been avoiding checking into that mess very hard.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (8avO+)
I don't know why it matters whether Iran has a nuke or not. Israel has been chopping off the hydras' heads for far too long. Time to after the body.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 20, 2025 02:18 PM (j6Ika)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 02:18 PM (EVFZ5)
How many Afghan refugee did we take in?
1) My point is that we learn from the past.
2) We brought in lost of people who collaborated with us while we were in country, but nobody is talking about us being in country.
3) The Biden administration is not in power.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 02:18 PM (Riz8t)
https://tinyurl.com/48jjn85e
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 20, 2025 02:18 PM (x2CMu)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (iJfKG)
The fact that Macron married his much older teacher is weird enough. I suspect that the FNM indulges this kind of stuff to minimize how odd the real situation is.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 02:09 PM
Ahem.
(I hate to say that, this bein' a Smart Military Blog, 'n all.)
Posted by: C-130 Hercules at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (0sNs1)
I should never turn left again, right?
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (MmNOR)
If you turned left dozens or hundreds of times since 1945 and got in an accident every time, I don't think it would be unreasonable for you to stop turning left, or for your family to take away your car keys.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (uCjyK)
The Iranians need to show they want the Ayatollah regime gone. They've done so in the past, this is the closest they've actually come to being eliminated. There has to be something reasonable to deal with after the decapitation of these hardliner nut jobs.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (IifOV)
I once turned left and got into a terrible car accident.
I should never turn left again, right?
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM (MmNOR)
You could argue that our indifference and inattention to the area has caused even more harm over those years.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (8avO+)
The striped pants brigade wants to be British, so they imitated them.
And still try to.
Posted by: Man at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (/Q8P0)
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Not to mention Democrats here being funded by them ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (TZqdt)
Of course I'll probably forget it by this afternoon......
Several references are made to a "Paulite" position. My Catholic upbringing defaults to the Apostle Paul but I think you are referring to Ron Paul (nice guy but no apostle....)
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 02:20 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM
Counterfactuals are always tough. Would we have been better off leaving the Communists in charge of Iran during the Cold War?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 02:20 PM (jc0TO)
And since Israel is making an effort to leave the oil infrastructure intact, the Persians will have plenty of resources to bootstrap themselves.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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They made and announcement to the Persians last night/yesterday that today and tomorrow that their airstrikes would show them that they were for the Iranian people.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 02:20 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: garrett at June 20, 2025 02:17 PM
Right. It's tight.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at June 20, 2025 02:20 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 02:20 PM (gWBY1)
The fact that Macron married his much older teacher is weird enough. I suspect that the FNM indulges this kind of stuff to minimize how odd the real situation is.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:19 PM (t0Rmr)
"She" started molesting him when he was 14.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 20, 2025 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)
I once turned left and got into a terrible car accident.
I should never turn left again, right?
I got shot down plenty of times. I guess I should have learned and never approached my now wife.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 02:21 PM (Riz8t)
" Iran's repeated threats to kill Donald Trump"
Hey, that's just like what the Democrats and most of the federal govt wanted to do!
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at June 20, 2025 02:21 PM (et1vG)
https://tinyurl.com/48jjn85e
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 20, 2025 02:18 PM (x2CMu)
We already know about the Democrats Lara.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:21 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:21 PM (uCjyK)
So I don't see what could go wrong here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)
Pahlavi ran a tight ship for many years, and really modernized the country. His biggest problem was that, apparently at the behest of the CIA, he spent too much effort looking for Reds under every bed, and basically ignored the wild-eyed mullahs ranting on the street corners. He should have had Khomeini killed, instead of exiling him to France.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 02:21 PM (W50D/)
provide the rest of the reaction. Enriching it more than that doesn't help generate useable energy, it costs more than you'd get out. Also, over time, that U-238 will absorb a neutron and turn to Plutonium-239 which itself can fission and create energy. So you'd be giving away those "Freebee" fissions, which commercially, you wouldn't want to do. The only advantage of running HEU in a reactor is the reactor can be a smaller size. But that's a consideration for nuclear warships, not commercial electricity plants.Posted by: Rdubs at June 20, 2025 02:21 PM (9ALg7)
Probably already been said, but most of the western world has forgotten what Total War is all about. With Oct 7, Iran and it's proxies tipped the scale from limited/proportional response to total war. They need to be unconditionally defeated, no mercy, no restraint (except nuclear), and 24/7/365 attacks. Pound them until they cry uncle, and pound them some more until they really mean it. This is the only way.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 02:21 PM (W/lyH)
Go be goth or something, but muslin is a dangerous cult.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 20, 2025 02:22 PM (uOoN0)
So I don't see what could go wrong here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)
The younger generation is not impressed with the mullahs, or their fanaticism, or their constant provocations, terrorist attacks and wars with the West over some Arabs in Gaza they care little about.
I think a lot of Iranians will be happy as hell to get rid of the mullahs and build their own country into some kind of democratic state, whether that's a republic like Iraq or a constitutional monarchy like Jordan.
It's up to them, and I hope that's how it turns out for them if the mullahs are forced out of power.
I could be wrong and it will turn out to be another disaster but that's their problem, and they can figure it out, just sans nukes.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:22 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 02:22 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 01:18 PM (ZIggv)
Here is the question. Do you make them surrender to Israel or do you let them surrender to the US? Some other third party?
If all the mullahs are killed, who do you accept surrender from?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 20, 2025 02:22 PM (OA79/)
Posted by: Turn 2 at June 20, 2025 02:22 PM (6TlG5)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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That happened because Carter was president not that they were so dominant. Carter's the one that facilitated the Ayatollah's flight from Paris back to Iran.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 02:22 PM (K9XnW)
They didn't have rockets to reach the US. Russia moved their industry east, out of range probably, but Moscow was not for a large portion of the war.
So either London or Moscow.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 02:22 PM (t0Rmr)
They got Russia, MENA, and US to chose from.
It's too bad the French are the only ones who like nuclear power. That's about the only thing they can rely on other than the North Sea.
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Fracking will work for nat gas and perhaps petroleum in a number of Euro States including the UK. And Israel's Mega field in the Mediterranean is truly massive in size enough to sell a lot of nat gas to Euroland. Shameably the US has opposed allowing our pipeline tech to be used to do such because it might piss off the Turks.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 02:23 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Unkaren at June 20, 2025 02:23 PM (LPL2Y)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 02:23 PM (K9XnW)
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Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 02:20 PM (jc0TO)
That's a good question. Knowing what we know now, yeah, probably.
I have mixed feelings about the Cold War, but I also have the advantage of being able to monday morning quarterback it.
But generally speaking, I think we can say for sure that a lot of the things we did in the Cold War came back to bite us in the ass one way or another. Whether or not it was worth it is an interesting subject to debate, but ultimately, you can't change the past and counterfactuals are always going to be just guessing at some point.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:24 PM (uCjyK)
Probably already been said, but most of the western world has forgotten what Total War is all about. With Oct 7, Iran and it's proxies tipped the scale from limited/proportional response to total war. They need to be unconditionally defeated, no mercy, no restraint (except nuclear), and 24/7/365 attacks. Pound them until they cry uncle, and pound them some more until they really mean it. This is the only way.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2025 02:21 PM (W/lyH)
You excluded nuclear but it is well known in these parts that the only sure way is to nuke 'em from orbit....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 20, 2025 02:24 PM (QGaXH)
Hell, I'd be fine with declaring full-blown war, as long as we had clearly defined objectives and victory conditions. No more lengthy engagements with vague goals like "establishing democracy" or "stabilizing the region" or some shit. Tell me from the beginning what the exact goal is so we can withdraw when it's finished.
Trump has been very good at excercising our military might in specific and limited ways. I have zero problems with that. Not getting involved in endless wars, like the stalemate in Ukraine or the previous Iraq conflict, is what I voted for. I did NOT vote for refusing to rain hell down on those who threaten us.
Posted by: Caiwyn at June 20, 2025 02:24 PM (yHxqC)
Trump said very clearly he wants every country to choose their own leadership and form of government with one provision, no Death to Great and Little Satan shit. He does not want to be in the business of forcing leaders on any other country much like he didn't want it here.
I don't know if anyone has noticed but Trump tends to do things his way and not the DC way. There is no reason to believe he is lying about this.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 02:25 PM (viF8m)
As part of the end of the mullahcracy running Iran,
I would like to see that magic well the 12th Imam is supposed to crawl out of bombed until it's just an empty crater a mile wide and 500 yards deep.
That would be a huge hit on their apocalyptic beliefs and the need to foster nuclear war.
Their "strong horse" being a dead horse, so to speak, would be a nice bit of longterm psychological warfare.
Heck, they might even give islam the heave-ho as a result.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 02:25 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (x2CMu)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:22 PM (6ydKt)
We have no real way of knowing that. We just have to take the word of our intel agencies. Who just a few short years ago were saying COVID was of natural origin, Hunter Bidens laptop was Russian disinformation, Trump got pissed on by hookers in Moscow, and that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, among many, many other things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Oldcat
They are scared shiteless of them. Bunch of dhimmies.
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2025 02:13 PM (nQcpu)
I disagree, because they pick them up when they get knocked down and set them up able to attack Israel again. If they were feared, they would help them less when they are weak.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (8avO+)
We're talking about going to the ME to stop an obviously evil government from making WMDs. I'm not so sure we've learned any lessons.
Posted by: JasonG at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (3+0We)
This is precisely why I try not to hero worship anyone on the right. They might agree with me 99% of the time, but then it's that weird 1% belief of theirs I have to get roped into justifying, and I don't want to be in that position. The only idol to worship is God. All others are inevitably disappointing.
So many voices on the right that I value have one little off thing that is weird. No one is perfect. And even the people on the right I trust or admire 99.999999% of the time... Rush Limbaugh, Clarence Thomas, Larry elder, Thomas Sowell, even Ace... have had their own foibles and imperfections.
(I mean, what kind of blogger is Ace that he messes up on shelves? And accidentally posts lesbian hijinks? Sacrilege.)
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 02:28 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 02:23 PM (ctrM5)
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I'd imagine the pipeline is a bargaining chip to get into the EU, finally.
But Erdogan might not even care about the EU now, after they've given him the run around for decades.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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There are clips of Iranians speaking of police coming to their homes and beating family members suspected of 'wrong think'.
Also family members disappearing. There appears to be a large segment of the population most resentful of the tyranny.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: ohnonotme at June 20, 2025 02:32 PM (s8WNT)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 02:27 PM (uCjyK)
There are videos of them all over the place celebrating the missile strikes.
I don't need the CIA to tell me that.
There's one video of a group of people on a rooftop in Tehran, dancing and eating popcorn as the missiles hit in the distance.
These kids are probably just like you and are tired of the old people's shit, but in this case they want the war so they'll finally be rid of the assholes.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:33 PM (6ydKt)
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My own theory is that Iran is innocent of that charge directly, because they did not also launch the forces in Syria and Lebanon at the same time.
Hamas negotiations with the US and Saudi Arabia for bribes had collapsed, and I think they kicked off the massacre because the Middle East governments would follow the radicals into war with Israel rather than visibly back Israel. Iran inside of BRICS was joining a mainstream group and possibly less intent on the old terror war. Proxies can manipulate the masterminds too, see Zelensky and Ukraine widening that war repeatedly
Anyhow, its water under the bridge.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:33 PM (8avO+)
I don't need the CIA to tell me that.
There's one video of a group of people on a rooftop in Tehran, dancing and eating popcorn as the missiles hit in the distance.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:33 PM (6ydKt)
There are videos in the US of people celebrating October 7. This doesn't mean all of us did.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:34 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Angel at June 20, 2025 02:35 PM (oiJGz)
But Erdogan might not even care about the EU now, after they've given him the run around for decades.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 02:30 PM (6ydKt)
Yeah, I think he's playing a lot of ends against the middle. He's helped Russia a lot, then toppled their Syrian government and took it over. Not sure what his ultimate game is.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (8avO+)
If by turning left you mean you turned left into a parked car, then, yes, never do that again.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 20, 2025 02:36 PM (ERYKL)
The Iranian campaign has been masterful and precisely calibrated to exterminate the existential threat of Iranian nuclear weapons dropping on Israel. They have done the heavy lifting for the world by causing the Iranian regime to teeter. Everybody knows they need to go and now. A bit of US help here will go a long way in eliminating the source of much instability around the world.
Will US intervention lead to a more stable world? That is to be written. What is certain if nothing is done is the potential for a major war, potentially global, triggered by the Iranians Is far more than non-zero.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 20, 2025 02:39 PM (NXz8h)
I like Tucker, but there is no way I will abandon the President now, when he needs us most.
Posted by: Seamus Moon at June 20, 2025 02:39 PM (Ab/3c)
I would like to see that magic well the 12th Imam is supposed to crawl out of bombed until it's just an empty crater a mile wide and 500 yards deep.
That would be a huge hit on their apocalyptic beliefs and the need to foster nuclear war.
Their "strong horse" being a dead horse, so to speak, would be a nice bit of longterm psychological warfare.
Heck, they might even give islam the heave-ho as a result.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2025 02:25 PM (iJfKG)
I don't think its location was specified. Didn't the Sudanese claim their leader was him when they rebelled and wiped out that English force in 1895ish period?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:39 PM (8avO+)
I like Tucker, but there is no way I will abandon the President now, when he needs us most.
Posted by: Seamus Moon at June 20, 2025 02:39 PM (Ab/3c)
I lost tons of respect for Tucker when I saw his sophomoric attack on Cruz about "you know nothing of Iran because you don't know the population of it down to the last person". You want to make the point he doesn't know the situation attack his policies, not bullshit tricks like that. He's your guest for gods sake.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:42 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 20, 2025 02:39 PM (8avO+)
Don't know about "Imam"; I know he called himself "The Mahdi" which is another kind of mythological Islamic figure." He dead now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2025 02:43 PM (uWKK8)
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Those were Sunni Sufis of all things I think. Aka whirling dervishes. Sufism had some mystically minded warriors as well as those that are pacifists.
Leader was their Mahdi and both Sunni and Shia have their versions of it.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 02:48 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Methos at June 20, 2025 02:48 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Oldcat
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He has made comments as to restoring the caliphate and suzerainty of Turkey over nearby nations. Problem for him is that his popularity appears to be running out from all sides.
His electoral cheating and arrest of rival political parties is getting old in urban areas. Reminds me of the late Shah in a way.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 02:50 PM (ctrM5)
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The EU needs Turkey inside it just like a person does with ass cancer. It is dying already from internal poisoning of Muslims and letting Turkey in will simply accelerate the process and possibly lead Eastern Europe to sheer off into Russian embrace.
People have long memories in Eurolands of the Turks.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (ctrM5)
Iranian beliefs have been wrong on quite a few things lately, as evidenced by Hamas, Houthi, Syria, Hezbollah.....
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 20, 2025 02:53 PM (D1vbu)
Posted by: Erick at June 20, 2025 02:55 PM (SUzr1)
https://x.com/i/grok/share/m8nzYdn5iAJ5IUsEmQvPRUYNM
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https://x.com/i/grok/share/m8nzYdn5iAJ5IUsEmQvPRUYNM
But - but only in a reactor in a military vessel, none of which Oran has or is likely to ever have. Way to make ace’s point for him. Irans highly enriched uranium is only for a bomb.
Posted by: Brian at June 20, 2025 04:20 PM (/AI7O)
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Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 20, 2025 06:08 PM (wGqjj)
What about the following 'nightmare' scenario?
Imagine Russia and Iran announcing they had brokered a deal where many hundreds of Russian scientists were stationed throughout Iran's nuclear facilities and given access to all areas.
Iran explains that this is to prove to Russia (and to the world) that Iran has absolutely no nuclear weapons program. Moreover, Putin declares that this arrangement is vital to Russia's national security -- to ensure that Iran can never pose a nuclear threat to Russia (or to anyone else).
Who would have the balls to bomb an Iranian nuclear facility filled with dozens and dozens of Russian scientists who were working there for the express purpose of guaranteeing to the world that Iran had no nuclear weapons and no nuclear weapons program?
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 20, 2025 06:56 PM (+oqUV)
Posted by: Kooky C. Tarlson at June 20, 2025 06:58 PM (8BS3R)
Posted by: Eric2 at June 20, 2025 09:36 PM (q7Vou)
The hardest part of accepting the hard truth that Iran is at most 19 months away from acquiring a nuclear weapon is the first 20 years.
- Just sayin'.
Posted by: Bach In Black at June 20, 2025 10:40 PM (+oqUV)
In a very perverse way, we can thank Vladimir Putin for that.
No invasion of Ukraine, and Russia would've been able to bail out its Syrian ally late last year. Assad would still be in power, and Syrian airspace would now be closed to Israeli jets flying to Iran.
No invasion of Ukraine, and a secure Russia would be able to rush surplus air defense systems to Iran. Instead, it now has none to spare.
Posted by: JTP at June 20, 2025 11:37 PM (8daDi)
Ninth Circuit Overrules Lower-Court Hawaiian Judge's Order, Allowing Trump to Continue Using the National Guard to Control the Democrat-Media Party's Violent Insurrectionary Forces
The lower district court judge of course ruled that Trump wasn't permitted to use the normal powers of the presidency, as liberal district judges routinely do.
The three-judge panel reviewing that decision ruled unanimously that Trump has the authority. The panel featured two Trump judges and one Biden judge. Note that both of these rulings have to do with an emergency temporary injunction -- that is, there was no full trial on the merits, just the lawyers making their case to judges on an expedited basis. So this is, technically, an interim opinion which may be revised later. However, in this case, a "full trial" would pretty much just be lawyers making their cases to judges. This is a case that turns on constitutional language and precedents, not specific facts. So we can say that this temporary ruling is almost surely the final ruling, too. There aren't many new facts that would be disclosed after a fuller process, and those facts wouldn't alter the appeal court's ruling -- they're ruling that the president's decision-making with respect to the military is simply not up for judicial review.President Donald Trump will retain command over National Guard troops deployed to Los Angeles, following a ruling late Thursday from a three-judge panel on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The case stems from Trump's decision to send in federal troops after protests erupted in response to immigration enforcement actions. It marked the first time since 1965 that a president asserted control over a state's National Guard without that state's consent. The ruling overturns a decision by U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer, who ruled that Trump had overstepped his legal authority by deploying troops without California's approval. Breyer, appointed by President Bill Clinton and the brother of former Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer, argued the protests failed to meet the legal threshold of a "rebellion" that would justify federal intervention. "The protests in Los Angeles fall far short of 'rebellion,'" Breyer wrote. Last week, the 9th Circuit granted Trump an emergency administrative stay, temporarily pausing Breyer's injunction. But Thursday's decision goes significantly further. It replaces the temporary relief with a full, written opinion from the appellate panel, concluding that "it is likely that the President lawfully exercised his statutory authority." The panel also made clear that even if Gov. Gavin Newsom was not properly notified in advance, the law does not give governors the power to block such orders.Trump is pleased.
Trump hails "BIG WIN" over Gavin Newsom on deploying National Guard ... President Donald Trump on Thursday night hailed a major legal victory after a federal appeals court ruled he can retain control of National Guard troops he deployed to Los Angeles during immigration-related protests. The decision from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a lower court ruling that previously blocked the deployment. Trump responded on Truth Social praising the decision and criticizing California Governor Gavin Newsom. "BIG WIN in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on the President's core power to call in the National Guard!" Trump wrote. "The Judges obviously realized that Gavin Newscum is incompetent and ill prepared, but this is much bigger than Gavin." The post emphasized that the ruling isn't just about California. "All over the United States, if our Cities, and our people, need protection, we are the ones to give it to them should State and Local Police be unable, for whatever reason, to get the job done," Trump wrote. He added that the ruling "is a Great Decision for our Country, and we will continue to protect and defend Law abiding Americans."
Happy Friday! We've made it again.
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Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
yes we did
last nite we survived the great tornado warning of delaware county, 2025.1
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Posted by: *hic* at June 20, 2025 12:08 PM (UYy+W)
does he think at all?
Has the hair pomade taken over his brain?
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Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
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I prefer the more politically correct term 'wagon of jack'
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Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
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I prefer the more politically correct term 'wagon of jack'
Posted by: 496 at June 20, 2025 12:10 PM (9C6BN)
Knew someone who used the term 'jacklegs' for fuckups (people.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 12:12 PM (bss/y)
It's like we're living in Bizzaro World where things mean what their namesake implies.
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Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 12:14 PM (kR/iT)
lol
This is what I voted for.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:14 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:09 PM
Give him time. He's still crying for cash from the last one.
Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2025 12:14 PM (n2swS)
This is one of the most disturbing rulings in my lifetime. It goes against my understanding of the structure of the United States, national security, and the prohibitions in and reasoning behind the US Constitution’s explicitly excluding a standing army.
The executive branch can't have unchecked authority to effectively rewrite the law by redefining terms on-the-fly to mean whatever they need in order to justify their actions after-the-fact. That's beyond dangerous.
Remarkable how bad this is. Wouldn't know it listening to the media. I think a Prez has the authority, but not in trumped up situations like this.
If this snowballs, rump will then have the blueprint for quelling dissent with brute force. We are going to turn into Tiananmen Square. The People have a right to peacefully assemble. Sure, there were cars burning, some property damage, I guess (who did that?), but by no means did we need Federalized troops and active-duty Marines out there pushing the protesters back.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 20, 2025 12:14 PM (ycI94)
What?
Never mind.
Posted by: Emily Litella at June 20, 2025 12:15 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Goddessoftheclassroom at June 20, 2025 12:15 PM (PMAw8)
The Eeyore is strong with this one.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:15 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 12:13 PM (/U5Yz)
Saw a recent story where he was at some wine tasting while LA burned, a la French Laundry/Covid style.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:15 PM (i24o9)
And yet we have no recourse.
This seems like an untenable position.
Kind of an opposite problem to the one FDR had. He was trying to massive expand the government and Courts (including SCOTUS) kept saying "nah, can't do that."
FDR solved his problem by threatening to add additional justices to SCOTUS, and SCOTUS and the lower courts ended up backing down (the switch in time that saved nine).
I'm not sure that strategy would work today.
So what's the solution?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 12:13 PM (/U5Yz)
Rest easy. Hairgel doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of even winning the Dem nomination
Dems even in California generally hate the guy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2025 12:15 PM (YobFY)
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There need to be sanctions on this bullshit going forward: after X amount of unconsitutional decisions, that District Court is dissolved.
[Wifey informs me that there is presently a US House Bill along these lines -- H.R. 1526: NORRA (NO Rogue Rulings Act) of 2025 -- that has crossed over to The US Senate but I am unaware of the details.]
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 12:16 PM (nXhai)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Instead of relying on others to fulfill your wishes, why don’t you lead by example?
Posted by: Just sayin at June 20, 2025 12:17 PM (JWYBQ)
One of the things I miss from days long ago (circa 198
was every Friday exactly at 5 pm, when Weasel would play his "It's the Weekend" playlist on WHFS in Annapolis.
The simple things are what we remember most fondly...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 20, 2025 12:17 PM (wtvvX)
TGIF
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Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon
He knows the cheating will be off the scale leading up to the 2028 election. Like I said, he doesn't GAS.
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Posted by: Kind of Patrick Bateman-y maybe? at June 20, 2025 12:18 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 20, 2025 12:14 PM (ycI94)
I'm sorry, what? We definitely have a standing army and have had one for quite some time. The Constitution says the funding for an army has to be voted on every 2 years, and I guess we can call that a prohibition on a standing army, but that has nothing to do with Trump and the National Guard.
I do like that the DU people are becoming staunch originalists though.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:18 PM (uCjyK)
Reminds me of a conversation that I had with some indoctrinated lefty kid back in W-2 election days. where it "was the most important election of our lifetime" or some such NPC nonsense.
Stop being such a drama queen was the essence of my response after being finished laughing at him.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:18 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 12:18 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Vengeance at June 20, 2025 12:18 PM (Vo8GZ)
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 20, 2025 12:18 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 20, 2025 12:18 PM (JWYBQ)
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Every week, they come a little bit faster and furiouser ... unfortunately.
/Friday mornings are my GAINZZZZ check days ... off to weigh myself.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 12:18 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 12:12 PM (bss/y)
Yes!! I haven't heard that term used in decades.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 20, 2025 12:19 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 12:19 PM (+qU29)
By the by, newscum is out on the social intertubes claiming this is a win for him:
x.com/CAgovernor/status/
1935915950760710158
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 12:19 PM (cduTK)
Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2025 12:20 PM (4jjip)
Trump get's to be President after the courts decide it so.
Just like Thomas Jefferson wanted!!!
Posted by: John Roberts at June 20, 2025 12:20 PM (9mw3J)
not rebellion
That is a Baghdad Bob judge.
Posted by: torabora at June 20, 2025 12:20 PM (KtOUo)
We overturn the lower courts decision because it’s obvious the Governor is incompetent and ill-prepared.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 12:20 PM (VofaG)
I'm not going to rule out the intellectual powerhouse that is AOC.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:20 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (jc0TO)
I read that thee were a bunch of 7-2 decisions today by the SC with Keagan siding with the conservatives but no info on what they were. Anyone know? Seems Kagan has decided to actually reason things instead of blindly following the stupidest judges to ever wear a black robe, Sotomyer and Jackson.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (wBaIH)
*BOM BOM*
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (M0V4/)
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DoJ lawyers: Here are the relevant statutes and precedents in our favor.
NGO paid plaintiff lawyer: Trump has malice towards immigrants, in other words, Orangeman BAAAAAAD!
Judge: Obviously plaintiff will win on the merits, TRO granted.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (Dv3i1)
It's like we're living in Bizzaro World where things mean what their namesake implies.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 20, 2025 12:12 PM (M0V4/)
The national guard is a weird one. It's like Schrodinger's military. Sometimes it's the military, sometimes its not.
Technically the US military can't operate on US soil during peace time, at least not in a policing role. Posse Comitatus Act and all of that.
But the National Guard is considered a "state militia" sometimes, which is why governments can call them up to quell riots or whatever. But it's clearly connected to the military.
Anyways, if the DU types are feeling hyper technical about the role of the federal government, I'm all ears. I have a lot of thoughts on things the federal government shouldn't be able to do under the constitution, but routinely does.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (ITkJX)
I'm not sure that strategy would work today.
So what's the solution?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
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Congress created all lower courts (below the Supreme) and thus has the power to revise or even terminate them. Or just limit their jurisdiction over certain disputes. There are solutions. But Congress is big yuge pussy-wimp Kansas City faggots. They won't do shit. Hell, they like what the courts are doing to Trump.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:22 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (jc0TO)
Eve was in a strange position in that Blake painting.
Posted by: Callback! at June 20, 2025 12:22 PM (TbWk/)
Dems even in California generally hate the guy
Like the DNC has ever cared what people vote for. Kamala was the Prezzy candidate with zero primary votes, after all, and don't forget the "super-delegate" shenanigans with Hillary in 2016.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:22 PM (QZThv)
We overturn the lower courts decision because it’s obvious the Governor is
FOFY
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:22 PM (Riz8t)
Woops! Woopsie!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 12:19 PM
Justice Jumanji was twice overruled 9-0 by the USSC and look where she is now, on it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (jc0TO)
Stephen Miller's comment was pretty funny, saying that they were going to follow the law and respect the judge's order, but he wouldn't commit to doing so if the judge decided to move troops from one place to another. These judges are really delegitimizing themselves in real time. In about 6 months, I doubt that anyone will even care if Trump defies a court order if they keep this up
Posted by: imp at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (g6TN6)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (L/fGl)
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I could have used some help. But the Dems aren't sending their best.
Posted by: Kagan, exasperated at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (AOguU)
Perfect fit for a Democrat running for president.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (ITkJIt's
probably going there and you shouldn't like the odds.. They're not called the Ninth Circus for nothing..
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:09 PM
The buffet line servers at the California State Prison in Solano.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (wtvvX)
While all these commie ratniks like AOC and Rashida Tlaib making time in the news there are more thoughtful Democrats working on the technicals of cheating the win come next election.
That's the worry.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 12:24 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (t/2Uw)
You can't distinguish yourself by being the third stupid in a group of stupids including wise latina and the DEI-hire who doesn't know how to ID a woman.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:24 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 12:24 PM (Splbu)
I think AOC's destined to become the new Bernie Sanders. She'll get a significant number of early primary votes, then she'll drop out and have a new mansion.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:24 PM (QZThv)
I read that thee were a bunch of 7-2 decisions today by the SC with Keagan siding with the conservatives but no info on what they were. Anyone know? Seems Kagan has decided to actually reason things instead of blindly following the stupidest judges to ever wear a black robe, Sotomyer and Jackson.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2025 12:21 PM (t/2Uw)
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SC decisions are all available here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/slipopinion/24
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:24 PM (iFTx/)
What is is Alex "Fatboy" Padilla gonna charge at now?
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade
The fixin
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 12:24 PM (xG4kz)
*BOM BOM*
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Golf clap.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 12:25 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:25 PM (ExV1e)
and they hate us.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 12:25 PM (/U5Yz)
I think AOC's destined to become the new Bernie Sanders. She'll get a significant number of early primary votes, then she'll drop out and have a new mansion.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:24 PM (QZThv)
LOL.. I read that as Barbie Sanders...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:25 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: torabora at June 20, 2025 12:25 PM (KtOUo)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2025 12:24 PM (Splbu)
You are hereby under deportation order for saying "Friyay."
Posted by: No. Just, no. at June 20, 2025 12:25 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 20, 2025 12:26 PM (AcTAo)
That's the worry.
Yes, but Trump is now the party, and since we now know just how much cheating the Dems are willing to do, I doubt we'll ever revert to the complacency of the Ronna McDaniel years. From now on, detecting and preventing cheating is the first job.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:26 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 12:26 PM (AOguU)
The fixin's bar at Taco Tio's
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 20, 2025 12:26 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:25 PM
Perfect.
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at June 20, 2025 12:26 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 12:26 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (1IUvn)
With what?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 12:26 PM (AOguU)
Hopefully an 800 pound steer.
Posted by: Steer clear at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:22 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, I should have qualified it with "realistic".
It's obvious from reading the Constitution that no one intended for the judicial branch to be co-equal with Congress. Congress can get rid of all inferior courts if they wanted to and limit the jurisdiction of SCOTUS to the things spelled out specifically in the constitution -- disputes around federal laws, the constitution, between citizens of different states, admiralty law, etc.
They could re-write court rules to get rid of TRO's if they wanted. They could overrule Marbury v Madison with legislation.
There's all kinds of things they COULD do, but they won't.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (XV/Pl)
Toby928, appellate courts don't issue any injunctive relief except to halt or not halt ("stay") the effect of a lower court order, and pause the case continuing in the lower court if they want. Their authority is limited to reviewing cases that come before them from the lower courts.
Posted by: imp at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (g6TN6)
He will run for Preezy in 2028 and probably win.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Eyeliner will beat Hairgel.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: mr tmz at June 20, 2025 12:11 PM (rJ48h)
That will, no doubt, be of great comfort when he's assigned an interior room at the Satan Arms Hotel and discovers that the AC is on the fritz.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 12:28 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 12:29 PM (AOguU)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The case involving birthright citizenship EO is primarily focused on whether a district judge can issue a national injunction.
Primary legal question is the injunction, not the EO unless the court does a de novo turn where the primary legal question at its hearing becomes something else entirely like Mapp v. Ohio was argued as an obscenity case until de novo, it became a 4th Amendment case. .
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:29 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 12:28 PM (IG2sK)
I'll ignore it then too....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:29 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 12:29 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 12:30 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:30 PM (Riz8t)
Perfect fit for a Democrat running for president.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (Q4IgG)
He's got an uncanny valley thing going on -- he looks human, but like ... not quite.
He has dead eyes. Like a James Bond villain or anyone with any power in the EU or UN.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:30 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:22 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, I should have qualified it with "realistic".
Congress can get rid of all inferior courts if they wanted to and limit the jurisdiction of SCOTUS to the things spelled out specifically in the constitution -- disputes around federal laws, the constitution, between citizens of different states, admiralty law, etc.
They could re-write court rules to get rid of TRO's if they wanted. They could overrule Marbury v Madison with legislation.
There's all kinds of things they COULD do, but they won't.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:27 PM (uCjyK)
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Trump needs to keep filling vacant judicial slots. Obviously, the SC is most important, but Trump got a LOT of other judges appointed too. The 9th circuit isn't as looney as it once was, thanks to him.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:30 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:30 PM (ExV1e)
I got a 4 day weekend. And I'm laughing at all the videos from outraged low-level blacktivists about how only blacks should get Juneteenth off. It's "disrespectful" to see whitey, Jose-y, and Feng-Feng-y not working on black supremacy day, you see.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:30 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2025 12:31 PM (ZmEVT)
Newsom is PDT’s bitch.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 20, 2025 12:31 PM (XIXQF)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:31 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2025 12:31 PM (AOguU)
OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
Donald Trump Approval Rating
🟢 Approve: 53% (+7)
🔴 Disapprove: 46%
RMG | June 19 | 3,000 RV
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2025 12:31 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 20, 2025 12:32 PM (H9Fd4)
Posted by: Stateless.. 33% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 12:32 PM (jvJvP)
Hmmmm. There were no black Pilgrims, so I guess they'll have to work on Thanksgiving.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:33 PM (Riz8t)
Newsome is posting he won this- I wonder if he had a ready social media response thinking he would prevail and the communications team forgot to cancel it. It’s pretty bizarre.
Posted by: Piper
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I think I see the finesse: "The court rightly rejected Trump's claim that he can do whatever he wants with the National Guard and [here comes the finesse] not have to explain himself to a court."
Then a bunch of blah-blah about how we will continue to press for justice blah blah.
So the fact that he FORCED King Trump to appear in a court to justify himself is the victory. Watch for this shyte in his campaign. "We succeeded in bringing an authoritarian president to court where we forced him to confess his despotic policies out loud..."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2025 12:33 PM (lCaJd)
I got a 4 day weekend. And I'm laughing at all the videos from outraged low-level blacktivists about how only blacks should get Juneteenth off. It's "disrespectful" to see whitey, Jose-y, and Feng-Feng-y not working on black supremacy day, you see.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:30 PM (QZThv)
"Every employee here who was freed from slavery in 1865 can have the 19th off."
Posted by: Looking GOOD for 160 years old at June 20, 2025 12:33 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 12:33 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 12:33 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2025 12:33 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:34 PM (ExV1e)
The Marines should round up all the antifatards and illegals and dump them in the governor's mansion.
Mrs. Newsom would likely appreciate it, at least.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:34 PM (QZThv)
Primary legal question is the injunction, not the EO unless the court does a de novo turn where the primary legal question at its hearing becomes something else entirely like Mapp v. Ohio was argued as an obscenity case until de novo, it became a 4th Amendment case. .
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:29 PM (ctrM5)
The issue is that there are a lot of times were a nationwide injunction is the appropriate relief. I can imagine scenarios involving companies shipping products to all 50 states that violate various federal or state laws, etc.
And then there's also the other issue (that still happens, obviously, with Circuit splits) where federal law is enforced / not enforced or means different things in different states or even regions of states if the judge is confined to issuing injunctions for only his district.
I'm sure you know all of this, I'm just saying -- it's kind of an unworkable system if we can't trust the judges to be judge-like. If they're going to act like partisan hacks, I don't know how you fix that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:34 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I think we should just wear tin foil crowns, but the left has zero sense of humor, so they would not understand we are joking and making fun of them.
Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2025 12:34 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 20, 2025 12:35 PM (7xrfc)
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[Points at beard.] "Beard. Winning. President." [Smug smile.]
Posted by: Mayor Pete, An Acme Consultants Group Production at June 20, 2025 12:35 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Chemistry jokes. I has 'em. at June 20, 2025 12:35 PM (TbWk/)
“Why didn’t you throw in a third?” Martinez said with a chuckle to the mother of two.
“Because he would’ve been a Barack Obama,” the “Becoming” author and former president’s wife quipped to laughs.
You’ll note that The Hill, from which the quotation above comes, assures readers that it was a “quip” with “laughs.” However, as we all know, there are jokes and there are mean jokes. The former never hurt a person close to the joke-teller. The latter are a way to get away with a truly nasty, abusive line, while disclaiming responsibility. We’ve all hurt the mean guy, after throwing out one of those insults, claiming afterward, “What are you getting so upset about? Can’t you take a joke?” But of course, everyone knows it wasn’t a joke.
And when you have someone like Michelle Obama, who never stops complaining about her husband and making endless little digs at his expense, believe me, it’s no joke.
She really is just a loathsome person. Note that this does NOT mean she's wrong about Barack.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:35 PM (Riz8t)
Mrs. Newsom would likely appreciate it, at least.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025
Gavin calls his wife the First Partner, not First Lady. It’s so weird over on their side of the forest.
Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2025 12:36 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 12:16 PM (nXhai)
This bill limits the authority of federal district courts to issue injunctions.
Specifically, it prohibits a district court from issuing an injunction unless the injunction applies only to the parties of the particular case before the court.
https://tinyurl.com/ef8abj4u
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:36 PM (ExV1e)
Reason #432 why the Department of Education needs to go.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 20, 2025 12:36 PM (XIXQF)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 12:37 PM (+qU29)
Bingo. That's why what they're doing is so dangerous. It completely discredits the judiciary.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:37 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Roy Batty at June 20, 2025 12:37 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 12:37 PM (+qU29)
Similar modern problem with pastors and pulpits.
Posted by: Genesis Reimaged: A Dissection of Patriarchy at June 20, 2025 12:38 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:38 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Vance Boelter at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM (Dv3i1)
https://tinyurl.com/ef8abj4u
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:36 PM (ExV1e)
How does that work? One of the parties in the lawsuit is the United States. Or does it mean only the named plaintiff can get the relief sought?
So a judge can say "United States, you cannot continue to enforce this unconstitutional law, but only against the named plaintiff. Carry on with enforcing it against everyone else"?
Then 330 million people have to file their own lawsuits in order to get an injunction against the law being applied to them specifically?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM (uCjyK)
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He embodies sleaze. It really does show in how others perceive him. Even his gooped-up hair screams sleazy, unscrupulous dirtbag.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM (qBdHI)
The left created parallel institutions and then took over the originals too.
We should probably create our own parallel institutions but it would require more focus then conservatives usually manage AND you have to keep the corruption out...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM (IG2sK)
United Methodist church led by transgender pastors introduces new worship song: "I'm F****** Gay"
Protestia@Protestia
"There might be a swear word." Woke church drops new praise and worship song with the F-Bomb
"I'm f****** gay and thank God for that
Christians cast me out but Jesus had my back"
https://is.gd/6w1VRX
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Roy Batty at June 20, 2025 12:37 PM (Dv3i1)
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Very jejeune
Posted by: Priss at June 20, 2025 12:40 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Vance Boelter at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM (Dv3i1)
Yeah.. They seemed to have dropped that off the front pages
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:40 PM (VE6XX)
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I don't think Newsom has any intention to stop the civil unrest. He's been told that it's a net positive for him in his mental war with Trump. Honestly, I seriously doubt the guy makes any decisions for himself... they're all spoon-fed to him. I think his brain is fried.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 12:41 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 12:37 PM (+qU29)
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They are out there. Trump appointed a lot of them in T1. The SC is a tougher bitch, though. The SC candidates are all from a more narrow and elite demographic, which tends to skew more left. Plus, the historical process of having the candidates screened by Federalist Society left a lot to be desired.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:41 PM (iFTx/)
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Don’t worry. He’s into it.
Posted by: Big Mike at June 20, 2025 12:41 PM (+K1xO)
She really is just a loathsome person. Note that this does NOT mean she's wrong about Barack.
Posted by: Archimedes at June
Do you know how much brighter our world would be if people like Michelle understood nothing compels you to respond to people you don’t like or get on your nerves? Just ignore it. If nothing good or positive comes from what you are about to say to another person, don’t say it. If she did this, she would be silent. And that is very positive indeed. 😀
Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2025 12:41 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Parties? That doesn't sound right. Many of these suits are against Trump or a cabinet secretary.
Should be limited to the territorial jurisdiction of the particular district court. At most.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 12:41 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: It's always Methodists at June 20, 2025 12:42 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:34 PM
Why can't they just rule for the plaintiffs bringing the case?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 12:42 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 12:42 PM (BI5O2)
They tried claiming he was some MAGA guy but people weren't buying it - Walz's minions killing moderate Democrats isn't something the FNM wants to talk about.
Its sort of like when they tried to claim MPV was going to be the next COVID and people noticed that it seemed especially dangerous to the male children of gay male couples and suddenly the story was gone...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:42 PM (t0Rmr)
There needs to be a mechanism to get rid of Judges who exceed their authority.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2025 12:42 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Looking GOOD for 160 years old at June 20, 2025 12:33 PM (TbWk/)
LOL. Except for left wing trolls on hete I don’t interact t with nutty leftists online, thank God, but it was a good quip which you offered.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 12:42 PM (2GCMq)
Kallisto, all of his snake oil posturing as a tough guy and a rioter's bff is to position him to run in 2028. That has been his political goal since he was a wee politician, to be POTUS one day. It's also why he started his stupid podcast where he fakes being moderate, to appeal to the middle, while championing the protests/riots to appeal to the left. I pray God's ultimate plan is for him to never see that goal to fruition, and the bitterness of it drives him to madness. I think events, the LA fires plus the protests, will actually sink him though.
The best parody of Newsome I've ever seen is from Nerdrotic, from when he was packing up to move from CA to TX. Newsome is Patrick Bateman from American Psycho, the brilliant videographer Pierry Chan spliced his head ontoo Bateman's body, holding the Axe with the plastic clothing on, while having sound from one of Newsome's speeches. He is trying to catch and kill the Nerdrotic gang, but Bugs Bunny style, they are too wily for his wascally ways. It's portrayal of Newsome plus the humor makes it one of my fave top political parodies.
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 12:43 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Really? I had a much worse, Ace-like understanding of that word.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 12:43 PM (mlg/3)
There's a great comedian, Quinn Dale, on YouTube that does a lot of racial humor. It's not mean or racist, and he has the Norm Macdonald gift of the punchline frequently coming out of left field where you don't expect it.
There's a clip where he says "There is a word whites can't say, and a word blacks can't say. The word whites can't say is the N word. The word blacks can't say is 'ask'". A black dude in the front row starts laughing his ass off, while a white Karen a few tables over is doing the "that's not funny" death glare at both Quinn and the black guy. Modern liberalism in a nutshell.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:43 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:41 PM (iFTx/)
Agreed. If you're not from the "right" law schools, the "right" social circle, or the "right" family, you ain't getting on SCOTUS. Probably won't get on the federal bench at all.
Unless you're a highly unqualified minority (especially an immigrant minority), then maybe you have a shot.
So if our choices for SCOTUS justices are all Yale or Harvard-educated people from wealthy and/or influential families, well... that's a pretty small group to pick from. And a group that tends to be very "elitist", and as such, would not be a fan of a populist president like Trump.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:43 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 12:43 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 12:44 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM
They would have a sure winner if they did, yes?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 12:44 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 12:43 PM (RIvkX)
Condolences for the loss of your relative...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:44 PM (VE6XX)
In fact, I suspect any Trump statement without him clowning someone of being fraudulent.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 12:44 PM (jbnUc)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (VE6XX)
I believe that the 9th is no longer the circus court after Trump appointed several judges there during his first term.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:44 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 12:34 PM
Pick me pick me!
Posted by: MAC V SOG at June 20, 2025 12:44 PM (P4Pk9)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 20, 2025 12:45 PM (1sBXy)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025
I am sorry you are going through so much right now. Prayers and positive vibes sent.
Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2025 12:46 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 20, 2025 12:45 PM (1sB
The oldest girl looks just like Obama.. Just as arrogant too from what I hear
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:46 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Andrew B at June 20, 2025 12:46 PM (io0a6)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 20, 2025 12:45 PM (1sBXy)
To be fair, nobody REALLY wants their boys to be narcissistic insatiable cockhounds.
Posted by: The AWFLs just say it for clout at June 20, 2025 12:46 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:46 PM
Is that the one with the mustache?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 12:46 PM (jc0TO)
This is a holiday that was created by a...............
"REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 20, 2025 12:46 PM (1sBXy)
I do have to agree with Big Mike. One Barack is enough.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:47 PM (QZThv)
Is that the one with the mustache?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 12:46 PM (jc0TO)
LOL.. Not sure.. She's the skinnier one
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2025 12:47 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 12:47 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 12:48 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 20, 2025 12:48 PM (1sBXy)
https://is.gd/gwgP83
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 12:29 PM (L/fGl)
I note that Rubio is in that photo.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:48 PM (ExV1e)
Terrible. Then, of course there are the Methodist churches who dont do that, would never do that and there’s no rainbow flag in sight, aside from the Methodist churches which have joined the Global Methodist Church.-more conservative church.
And anothetr note, some people think using the word fu****” all the time is cool and edgy. LOL. The people saying “I’m f*****” trans or gay are very obviously very angry people .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 12:49 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2025 12:49 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 12:49 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:30 PM (QZThv)
Maybe a reciprocal rule that blacks can't take Labor Day off.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:49 PM (ExV1e)
I read that thee were a bunch of 7-2 decisions today by the SC with Keagan siding with the conservatives but no info on what they were. Anyone know?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
No groundbreaking decisions. Fuld allows the PLO and PA to be sued in US courts due to an antiterrorism law, another decisions strengthens the ability of district courts to interpret the law differently than does an agency McLaughlin Chiropractic, and a regulatory decision that the EPA and California can be sued for allowing CA to ban liquid fuel vehicles (Diamond Alternative Energy). One case dealt with a statutory interpretation of sentencing laws due to misbehavior of the defendant and another one dealt with rejecting an ADA claim regarding health insurance coverage of a person disabled before she could qualify for retiree health care benefits.
The FDA v. RJ Reynolds was perhaps a highlight of future decisions in Trump v. CASA as Scotus denied RJ Reynolds' lawsuit regarding FDA vaping regulations because RJ Reynolds should have filed in its hq circuit (the 4th) or where the FDA was located (the DC Circuit). This decision affects judgeshopping apparently.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
@LeadingReport 32s
BREAKING: ChatGPT use linked to cognitive decline, according to MIT research, per The Hill.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 12:51 PM (mlg/3)
I have no pictures to accompany this comment but just picture nature, the grand tetons or something.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 12:51 PM (cduTK)
~~Free Beacon, via Powerline
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What a great quote from the brother-loving immigration fraudster
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 20, 2025 12:52 PM (aaiRr)
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Yes, but like in the photo, he has lost focus. We can get him back once he is out from under Trump's spell.
-Grand Old and Stupid Party
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 12:52 PM (Dv3i1)
http://tiny.cc/cuin001
I was thinking the other day that you don't see the GW idiots blocking traffic as much any more. Either they figured out it was just alienating people, or they're worried that under Trump, more people will run them over.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:52 PM (Riz8t)
Sorry for the troubles . May some rough places be made smooth and may people be able to. Celebrate the life and legacy of the beloved one who died
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 12:52 PM (2GCMq)
http://tiny.cc/cuin001
Queue Ludacris's "Get Out Da Way Bitch"
But its funny, I remember when people in MA protested outside the governor's house they were arrested because obviously having protestors in the road is a danger...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)
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Isn't that enough to throw her out of the country?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 12:53 PM (K9XnW)
That's pretty much what Whoopi Goldberg (actual name: Karen) just said. I guess they got the same blast fax.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:53 PM (QZThv)
I have no pictures to accompany this comment but just picture nature, the grand tetons or something.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 12:51 PM (cduTK)
She has a vested interest in protecting large tracts of land for pubic use.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:53 PM (i24o9)
BREAKING: ChatGPT use linked to cognitive decline, according to MIT research, per The Hill.
For those of you that had "Wall-E" as your prediction for what the future would look like please come up to the desk and collect your winnings.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:54 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 12:54 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 12:39 PM (IG2sK)
Point of Order: I believe you have to be female to be a ho. Big Mike is an ungrateful nasty dick.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:54 PM (ExV1e)
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Blood and treasure from when we fought the Indians? Interesting take. I shall contemplate this further after an internet search on Sydney.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 12:54 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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I think Trump is done with that and the Senate being headed by someone other than Mitch is going to affect who gets appointed to circuit and Scotus nominations. The Federalist Society has shot themselves in the head as far as influence. My guess is a lot more state judges get elevated and a lot fewer 'elite' types for vacant positions.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:54 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 12:54 PM (od0dV)
@amuse 44m
POLITICAL VIOLENCE: Rep Nadler inciting more violence against ICE agents.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (mlg/3)
Yeah, now the left wants to expand state's rights?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (rOVb5)
After Barky was elected to the Senate they doubled her pay, because she and her position were so important.
Then she left when Barky became president and...they didn't fill her now open "critical" position.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (v0R5T)
I saw an article last week stating that Gen Z conservatives, especially men, were gradually taking over the Federalist Society and kicking out the liberaltarians. It'll still be years before you can trust it as an institution though.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (QZThv)
Are Republican district judges Wimps or what?
Why are we always fighting with one hand tied behind our backs?
Posted by: Kurtz at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (te1DI)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings
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I think Michelle was screwing the (now dead) chef and Barky got pissed off. So he had the chef off'd.
Michelle's still pissed about that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (Q4IgG)
It marked the first time since 1965 that a president asserted control over a state's National Guard without that state's consent.
And of course in both cases, the NG was deployed because the Donk state governors were being shit-heads. In 1965 it was George Wallace wanting to leave the Selma marchers open to violence from Klan-types. Regardless of whether the marchers were assholes (quite a few were), there's a pretty good argument in favor of the NG deployment to prevent mass violence.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:52 PM (Riz8t)
They probably also dimly started to realize the physics of the situation. They are not Lebron James flopping to draw a foul/charge- a car is a hell of a lot of mass.
And Sir Isaac Newton does not give a fuck about your feelings.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 12:56 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 12:56 PM (q177U)
The phrase "huge tracts of land" is a famous line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. In the film, the phrase is used by the King of Swamp Castle to describe the Princess's desirable qualities, highlighting her wealth and land ownership. It's a comedic exaggeration, emphasizing the vastness of her property
Yeah, there's no political correctness here. None at all.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:56 PM (Riz8t)
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She has to live in Minnesota, so maybe cut her some slack, ok?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 12:56 PM (Dv3i1)
I'm just quoting the front page summary. Take it up with the dipshit who write our laws.
Doesn't matter, anyway, the Dems in the Senate will never let it through.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (v0R5T)
lol close I have a cross between Wall-E and Idiocracy
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
There are AI programs out there that deserve to be bullied until they start responding normally.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (7xrfc)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)
Nah, all that guy wants to talk about is shitty movies.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 20, 2025 12:45 PM (1sBXy)
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I find her logic odd, since our two boys are like their mom and our daughter is more like me.
Posted by: Turn 2 at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (6TlG5)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:55 PM (t0Rmr)
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You definitely don't want to look at her crotch
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (1IUvn)
BREAKING: ChatGPT use linked to cognitive decline, according to MIT research, per The Hill.
"Linked to" is a weak statement that really doesn't mean anything unless they can tell how it's linked. Also, something that's only existed for a couple of years is "linked" to something that takes multiple years to manifest? Color me skeptical.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2025 12:58 PM (/y8xj)
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If that's the reason, then it's because the catamite was switch-hitting. He doesn't care if another mule's been kicking in *her* stable, that's for sure.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 12:58 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
There is a lot of Idiocracy in Wall-E when they get to the starship.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 12:58 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Closer to balanced now than the DC Circuit or the 1st and 2nd. One issue though has been manipulation of that court for en banc decisions. The 9th is the only circuit where an eleven judge panel is selected for such cases rather than the whole number of active judges. This is because the 9th has 29 active judges. At least on gun decisions, it appears that the panels have been manipulated to maintain gun laws in places like CA and Hawaii despite the original 3 judge panel ruling them unconstitutional.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:58 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
What I’m sayin’.
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2025 12:58 PM (jgmnb)
Posted by: Turn 2 at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (6TlG5)
Surprise. She has no idea of what she speaks and is just an entitled, shitty, angry person.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:59 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:00 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Fred Garvin at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (/y8xj)
"Linked to" is a weak statement that really doesn't mean anything unless they can tell how it's linked. Also, something that's only existed for a couple of years is "linked" to something that takes multiple years to manifest? Color me skeptical.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Hey, it's from the Hill. You know they're right on it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Braenyard
I'd prefer returning large amounts of federal land to the states. Let them privatize it if they want. And yes, there will be corruption involved unfortunately. But I still think it is better than having so much land in the West locked up.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (Dv3i1)
Good job, fuckwad
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 20, 2025 12:45 PM (1sBXy)
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Who wouldn't want St. Trayvon and St. George as sons?
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2025 12:51 PM
But we took them from the natives. How does this not invoke a Norman! Coordinate! moment?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (jc0TO)
@ScottPresler
‼️A Gentle Warning‼️
If Republicans don’t get on board w/ early & mail-in voting, we are going to lose big in Pennsylvania this November.
How do I know?
Only 🟥17.9% of Republicans voted on May 20th.
So, when you hear people say that “Republicans will turn out on Election Day,”
they didn’t.
If we don’t win this November, Pennsylvania is stuck w/ a democrat Supreme Court until 2035.
Your move.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (NpAcC)
Are Republican district judges Wimps or what?
Why are we always fighting with one hand tied behind our backs?
Posted by: Kurtz
They are pro corporate, not pro civil liberties types. This is because the Federalist Society is not particularly conservative nor is the Heritage Foundation. Co Founder of the Federalist Society has become a massive critic of Trump becuz Leo is essentially a globo homo type.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:02 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:59 PM (i24o9)
Nah, she knows that's BS. She just hates her gay husband and his fake life, and will use any opportunity to take a shot at him.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:02 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 01:02 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 01:03 PM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Oddbob
Point taken. But it confirms all of my cranky ass takes, so it's gold to me.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 01:04 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:04 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2025 01:05 PM (2UnvF)
Posted by: Tehran prayers after party at June 20, 2025 01:05 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:00 PM (BI5O2)
Is she already telling her teachers that they're going to find their work on the North American Dignity Canal so much more rewarding?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 01:05 PM (XAXi6)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 12:54 PM
Protip: turn off safe search
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:05 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 01:05 PM (IG2sK)
Many are controlled opposition, most are cowards.
And they know if they did this they would be punished.
I've long argued one actual conservative judge ruling the current implementation of the income tax unconstitutional in any given April could completely remake the country in a constitutional way but none of them will...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 01:05 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 01:05 PM (Q4IgG)
Big Mike and I agree that Obama is worthless and a Panty Waste.
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 20, 2025 01:06 PM (1sBXy)
http://tiny.cc/cuin001
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The left still doesn't believe the cops are not there to protect people from criminals:
They are there to protect the criminals from mob justice.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 20, 2025 01:06 PM (rOVb5)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 01:05 PM (XAXi6)
Soon.
Kindergarten begins in August.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:06 PM (BI5O2)
Paging Mike Johnson to any fucking phone. You have a Congressman advocating for violence against a government agency and you can't get off you ass to do anything.
Good job, fuckwad
Posted by: Ben Had
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Collegiality is the college of collegians who collegiate in a spirit of collegianism of the college of collegiates.
(pushes glasses up)
Posted by: Your Betters at June 20, 2025 01:06 PM (lCaJd)
[SONE-741] “It’s an easy job where you just show your boobs.” I applied thinking “If I can make money just by showing my tits, that’s easy lol” – Hayasaka Hime
Posted by: Stateless.. 33% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 20, 2025 01:06 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 01:06 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 12:57 PM (1IUvn)
It takes a village for an idiot to survive.
Posted by: Gref at June 20, 2025 01:06 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:04 PM (ExV1e)
Me and Syd's mutual interest in vast tracts of land, ends somewhere just north of her belly.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 01:06 PM (XAXi6)
But we took them from the natives. How does this not invoke a Norman! Coordinate! moment?
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:01 PM (jc0TO)
That's what they get for being on our land before we got here.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2025 01:07 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:07 PM (BI5O2)
If she wants to divorce him and make this era of her life her "How Michelle Got Her Groove Back" era -- a period for her to be an empowered black woman stepping out of her husband's shadow to have her own rich pampered life -- go girl. You do you. But it's not going to be as easy as she thinks and she will make enemies from it, partly why the Clintons never divorced. (Another reason: can't testify against a spouse.)
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 01:07 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 01:08 PM (2GCMq)
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Is she into paddle boarding?
She keeps it up an accident may befall her.
Her value is past its expiration date.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 01:08 PM (K9XnW)
https://is.gd/2iMl2a
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 20, 2025 01:08 PM (L/fGl)
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I hope its not another Kenyan Muslim.
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 01:08 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Ian S.
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I think a lot of it comes from conservatives attending law school are more likely to go into fields that they can get good jobs. So they tend to go into fields that emphasize commerce, not constitutional or criminal law.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:54 PM (ctrM5)
I would love to see that. Souter wasn't a great judge, and did come from exactly the background I'm describing, but at least he came in from NH Supreme Court and not through the politicking that is the federal bench.
There are plenty of great judges / lawyers out there in the country. There is no reason we can't find a traffic court judge in Iowa who went to Ohio State or whatever to be on the federal bench.
Where is it written in stone that the only people qualified are people who went to Harvard undergrad, Yale law, clerked for a SCOTUS justice, then did some resume enhancing job for a couple of years while politicking their way in to getting a Senator to suggest their name to the President?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:08 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:09 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Crusader at June 20, 2025 01:10 PM (TN0g+)
You have not made it through Friday. Not yet.
Posted by: JackStraw
I knew there was a catch.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 01:10 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: pudinhead at June 20, 2025 01:10 PM (FmapG)
You have just effectively eliminated the entire profession. Here's why that's a good thing.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2025 01:10 PM (/y8xj)
demonstrating a desire to weigh in on a topic about which she knows almost nothing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:04 PM (ExV1e)
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True, but she does have huge tracts of land.
Posted by: Turn 2 at June 20, 2025 01:10 PM (6TlG5)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 01:11 PM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:00 PM (BI5O2)
Same same.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:11 PM (ExV1e)
266 I can only assume that if Republicans are pushing land privatization, then the Chinese, Black Rock, Cargill, and ADM are about to be very happy.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice,
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 01:11 PM (K9XnW)
BREAKING: ChatGPT use linked to cognitive decline, according to MIT research, per The Hill.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 12:51 PM (mlg/3
I know that AI really bothers me mentally and I wish there were a way to avoid it on the internet. Human lying is bad enough; mindless machine lying is super creepy.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 01:11 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 01:11 PM
No time off for good behavior.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 01:12 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: 18-1
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Pretty difficult to do via court action as Congress enacted income tax from a specific amendment granting them that power.
Better to consider doing such via Congress than reliance on the courts.
In the long run, dismantling and defunding the government works best via political processes rather than the courts.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:12 PM (ctrM5)
It has a pre-Maverick James Garner (as a bad guy) and a very young Angie Dickinson (as a cute wife) in it.
The episode is named "War Party".
Some of you over-29 guys might like the Angie part.
She's about two feet shorter than Clint Walker.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 01:12 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Ian S.
Federalist society is not really libertarian. Or conservative for that matter.
It's fully of smarmy old money Rockefeller Republican types who care much more about business and commercial law (that, some would say, indirectly benefits almost all of them and their families personally) than they do anything else.
Which is why they're so big on the stupidest phrase ever to be uttered in regards to federal judges: "judicial restraint." Because businesses like predictability and stability. So if the current law says XYZ, that's what it will remain. Unless it's too harmful to business, then they will overturn it.
But for social or political issues? Ehhh...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)
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Why do people keep doing this?
Posted by: Michael Caine as Peachy Carnehan at June 20, 2025 01:13 PM (Dv3i1)
Also, often the local tribes get a cut of the oil/fracking money, or indirectly benefit from it. Why does she hate indigenous people???
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 01:13 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2025 01:13 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Clarence Thomas has specifically made efforts to obtain clerks outside of the Ivies.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:07 PM (BI5O2)
You sound like a socialist!
Also, I tend to agree. I, too, am suspicious of the sudden push to sell off federal land.
"Sell to whom", one might ask.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: whig
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Judges with a track record and character.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (K9XnW)
She has said in past interviews they had bad decades of marriage. DECADES. One of the worst was I think right before he got his state senate gig. Had he lost that race, she probably would have divorced him.
Posted by: LizLem at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at June 20, 2025 01:14 PM (QmM6R)
Posted by: Max Power at June 20, 2025 12:56 PM (q177U)
My smart-but-brainless nieces really like AOC or Crockett since Bernie is too old.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 20, 2025 01:15 PM (rF2iL)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, #ProudKing #MoreKings at June 20, 2025 01:15 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)
Yeah, cynical as I am, he does seem to be the real deal. Which is incredibly rare.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 20, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
But for social or political issues? Ehhh...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Judicial restraint was the bargain that GOP made with Dems in the 70's. Basically, the Dems wanted to enshrine judicial activism from the 40's to the 60's and the GOP due to lack of enough senators was forced to appoint justices and judges that did not threaten the status quo. Plus, as you mention, the GOPe was largely concerned with judicial effects on commercial interests and not that of the hoi polloi.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:18 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
Law school has been fundamentally transformed in a way that most have not discerned. When i went more than two decades ago, there was almost no conservative faculty. That includes the state school I went to in Texas, where one of the two "conservatives" was a former Souter clerk.
At the time, law schools were at the beginning of a fad that took over: favoring interdisciplinary studies over actual lawyers for tenure track positions. "Law and" degrees; PhDs in other purely soft humanities disciplines and the like. This simultaneously depleted expertise in the law while bringing in people from fields the left had entirely taken over much earlier. It pushed law schools much further to the left and made things other than law paramount.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2025 01:20 PM (XAXi6)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 20, 2025 01:20 PM (lIio7)
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Long overdue for splitting it up.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
IN a word, filibuster. That has become a ratchet for leftists as well as a recourse for GOP to prevent leftists from getting worse. Bitch McConnell though used to sell votes to the Dems in order to get corporate goodies out of the deal so under McConnell, leftists mainly got what they wanted and McConnell's stooges got grift.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:21 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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No disagreement here.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 01:23 PM (ctrM5)
(Was gone for a bit)
Interesting that even though these are relatively unimportant the two idiots still could not bring themselves to vote with the majority. Seems Kagan is the only one hedging her bets. She actually has so,e leverage now where Sotomyer and Jackson are such lost causes, no one is going to even attempt to bribe their vote.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2025 01:33 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2025 01:49 PM (t/2Uw)
@MeghnadBose93
BREAKING: District court hearing Mahmoud Khalil's case orders his release from ICE detention in Louisiana.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:14 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: bonhomme
Return
it
to
the
States
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 20, 2025 02:15 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 20, 2025 03:15 PM (D1vbu)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 20, 2025 06:11 PM (wGqjj)
THE MORNING RANT: All These Businesses Had To Do To Not Lose My Business Was…Nothing
I am probably like most men over the age of 50 in that I stick with the same hygiene and toiletry brands out of familiarity and habit. To keep me as a customer, all the manufacturer has to do is…nothing. Even periodic price increases don’t affect my product loyalty.
Yet repeatedly in recent years I have had to switch brands because modern corporate business practices demand that products be altered, shrunk, or cheapened to goose short term profits, or be connected to offensively woke advertising campaigns. Most recently, I have had to give up on Mitchum roll-on deodorant because three of the last five bottles I’ve bought had a ball that doesn’t roll. I had always liked the way it applied, it didn’t feel sticky, etc., and I didn’t even balk at price increases. But suddenly they have apparently changed their packaging such that the product can no longer reliably do its core function – transfer the deodorant from the bottle to my armpits. To paraphrase Ian Fleming, one defective bottle is happenstance. A second defective bottle is coincidence. Three times is elite MBA action. It is evident that someone either at Revlon (maker of Mitchum) or at the vendor supplying the bottles decided to save a cent or two by reducing quality. Instead, they ran off the lifetime revenue stream of a loyal, repeat customer. Of note, I switched to Mitchum a few years ago only because Dove ran me off with a transgender advertising campaign. I might still be using Dove anti-perspirant had they not run that disturbing campaign. I started using Zest soap in my college years because it didn’t leave me with the industrial cleaning smell of the Dial Gold soap of my childhood. I then habitually used Zest for decades, and again, all they had to do to keep my business was…nothing. But they couldn’t help themselves. The product was shrinkflated a few years ago, which probably looked like a great idea on some spreadsheet – higher gross profit per ounce! But to me it was an annoyance, the bar was more frequently at the sliver stage and I had to grab a new bar more frequently. So, after all those years I came back home to Dial, now that it has an unscented option. I shaved with Gillette razors for decades until Gillette ran its infamous woke ad campaign accusing its loyal customers of being sexual predators. For me, learning that Gillette was publicly fighting the reputation of being the brand of choice for sexual predators made switching to a competitor an easy choice. Once again, all Procter & Gamble / Gillette had to do to keep my business was…nothing. They could even jack the price up higher and it wouldn’t cause me to switch. But they had to insult me. Since that notorious ad campaign, P&G has had to twice write off billions of dollars in impaired assets for its Gillette brand, totaling almost $10 billion. There is a crisis in corporate management in that it does not value the effective equity and long-term revenue stream of its most loyal customers. A customer for life is so much more valuable than a temporary increase in margin due to cheapening a brand. When the cost to keep a loyal customer is $0, but a corporation chases that customer away through destructive product gimmickry or offensive advertising, it is corporate malpractice. Corporate boards need to start policing the destructors they have hired to run their companies. On a lighter note, here’s a young Roger Clemens reminding you that you’re not really clean unless you’re Zestfully clean.Have a great weekend. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:00 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 11:00 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:01 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 11:01 AM (A5bjg)
Dove unscented hypoallergenic is your friend.
Posted by: sudo touch --methere gp at June 20, 2025 11:01 AM (t9lPv)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 20, 2025 11:02 AM (PiwSw)
They both pay focus groups to tell them what to think and say, rather than looking out the window at their customers. It is only difficult to know which way the wind is blowing if you refuse to open the window.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:04 AM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:04 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 20, 2025 11:04 AM (aPBRN)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:04 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Alissa Heinerscheid at June 20, 2025 11:04 AM (PiwSw)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 20, 2025 11:04 AM (gm9Sb)
Thanks Gillette!
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:05 AM (Y9UJs)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2025 11:05 AM (WdMlw)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:05 AM (MFYQF)
Right now, most of the stuff I buy has one simple condition: I don't know anything about your politics.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 20, 2025 11:05 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:06 AM (Riz8t)
I then switched to safety razors and Taylor Of Old Bond Street sandalwood shaving soap. Thirty cents or less a blade.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 11:06 AM (i24o9)
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2025 11:06 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:07 AM (Y9UJs)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 20, 2025 11:07 AM (v23vE)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2025 11:05 AM (WdMlw)
If you wanted to smell like Gwenyth Paltrow's shriveled cooter, there's a candle for that.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 11:07 AM (i24o9)
Was that the cause of, or a reaction to, the recent appreciation of safety razors.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 11:07 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:07 AM (Y9UJs)
All the Spice Girls are getting long in the tooth, now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:08 AM (MFYQF)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 11:08 AM (K9XnW)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 20, 2025 11:08 AM (gm9Sb)
Ford, Kelloggs, Gillette, AB brewing, State Farm, Allstate, United Health Care, Target, Southwest Airlines, Puma. And the list goes on ...
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 20, 2025 11:08 AM (2sMLA)
Not to me. -- this quarter's CEO
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
Thanks Gillette!
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:05 AM (Y9UJs)
Yeah but are those generic blades made of good old recycled American aircraft carrier steel scrapped by 10 year olds in India?
Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2025 11:09 AM (LgDgc)
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The #1 Rule of Customer Service: It can take months, sometimes even years, to gain a new customer -- and seconds to lose them (and once lost, they will generally NEVER come back).
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:09 AM (nXhai)
We were required to use Zest in Navy basic training because it didn't leave a film on the shower.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 11:09 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:09 AM (VofaG)
AVEWR++A+SFD+-!@ nonsense was POPULAR and THE FUTURE and they needed to go all in on it, and as the moron at Bud Light claimed the 'fratty, out of touch' culture was going away.
And it worked for a few years because the suits making decisions at this company do not consume their own product, have no actual interaction with the people that consume their product, and have NO IDEA what normies actually think, and they hated the fact that they had to appeal to the evil conservative market.
But of course the problem for the 'consultants' was that their promises of 'expanded markets' not only never materialized, as you say, they lost loyal life-long customers by openly insulting them.
Finally the corporate culture of 'our current customers are such evil racists, so we're going to magically get new customers to replace them' has conclusively failed so many times even the stupidest most obtuse leftist CEO understands that if zhe wants to keep zir job that they have to at least PRETEND to care about what their customers want.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (lCHt6)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (K9XnW)
Posted by: David Hogg, in a role that won't surprise you at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (PiwSw)
To their credit, when I told them I no longer wanted their crap, spices or e-mails, they immediately discontinued their propaganda. How does this company stay in business?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
Old Spice.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (5WDkb)
I think the old concept of keeping loyal customers was mostly discarded decades ago, when all the gimmicky, trendy corporate and marketing bullshit was coming out. The old tried-and-true corporate and marketing methods were considered trite and uncool.
I think the new idea was to constantly change and rearrange things in a bid to get new customers. Dumb as fuck, but there was a lot of very dumb ideas floating around corporate America in the 1980s and 90s.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
I never figured out why the particular people were fast tracked. It wasn’t like they were all uniformly impressive and intelligent. It’s a mystery to this day… I think that approach to fast tracking youngsters right out of college leads to this
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (WdMlw)
Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2025 11:09 AM (LgDgc)
Painstakingly filed down from old Morris Minor leaf springs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (MFYQF)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:09 AM (VofaG)
I was in the pool!
Posted by: The Economy at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (PiwSw)
If'n ya switch to safety razors you can get them for about $0.10 per blade.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 11:11 AM (ExV1e)
I'm switching to any other brand and I don't really know anyone that promiscuously switches brands.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2025 11:11 AM (XV/Pl)
Ford, Kelloggs, Gillette, AB brewing, State Farm, Allstate, United Health Care, Target, Southwest Airlines, Puma. And the list goes on ...
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 20, 2025 11:08 AM (2sMLA)
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MBAs killed the Marketing Star.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:12 AM (nXhai)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:12 AM (Y9UJs)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 11:12 AM (2GCMq)
Pasta used to come in a 1 lb box. It was easy to know how much to use. Now, they're something like 11 and 3/4 oz. GFY.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Django at June 20, 2025 11:13 AM (Ef4Ak)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 20, 2025 11:13 AM (gm9Sb)
I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the easiest way to ruin a business is to put a former CFO in charge, unless your business is actually money - banking and insurance.
If your business is making things, your CFO trained CEO doesn't give a rat's ass about your product, he only cares about numbers on a spreadsheet. Promote them to the top spot at your own peril.
Posted by: Black JEM at June 20, 2025 11:14 AM (GZYu7)
To their credit, when I told them I no longer wanted their crap, spices or e-mails, they immediately discontinued their propaganda. How does this company stay in business?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
I believe it was discussed here a few years ago. Bill (IIRC) Penzey is the moonbat. He retains the Penzey's name for his spices. His non-insane siblings founded Spice House. Same products, no moonbat politics.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:14 AM (MFYQF)
*sarcastic voice* "But Ironhead, aren't body washes for ladies?"
Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 20, 2025 11:15 AM (PSEDc)
Posted by: Dr. Varno
I had assumed that if we cannot define a woman, we also could not define a man.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:15 AM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Archimedes
Same box. Just lighter. Easier to fill less than change the machines for different box size.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:15 AM (5WDkb)
Nope. Not gonna buy their shit.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2025 11:16 AM (ZmEVT)
Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (lCHt6)
On the plus side, we can add AI to it and jack the price 20%. -- idiot CEO
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 11:16 AM (ExV1e)
I do remember a one sided interaction with his wife about 20 years ago. I was shopping at Whole Foods ( walking distance from my abode) and I saw a blonde in tight jeans with her back turned to me down one of the aisles . I decided to go up the opposite aisle and come around and see if the face matched the smoking body. As I turned the corner I came face to face with Clemen’s wife. A quick nod and on my way.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:16 AM (VofaG)
Sure, if you're not cashing out your stock options.
Posted by: t-bird at June 20, 2025 11:16 AM (nYrjk)
Posted by: butkus51 at June 20, 2025 11:16 AM (+yda9)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 20, 2025 11:13 AM (gm9Sb)
Spring steel is good stuff for making knives and other cutting implements.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:16 AM (MFYQF)
Posted by: thesgm at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (cVZbB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (Y9UJs)
If'n ya switch to safety razors you can get them for about $0.10 per blade.
Now there's a misnamed product if ever there was.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (MFYQF)
That's a lot of filing to go from leaf spring to razor blade.
Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (LgDgc)
Posted by: David Hogg, in a role that won't surprise you at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (PiwSw)
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Old & Busted: Soap-on-a-Rope.
New Hotness: Soap-on-a-Mope.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:18 AM (nXhai)
Posted by: Great Value products at June 20, 2025 11:18 AM (lIgBp)
Nope. Not gonna buy their shit.
Posted by: no one of any consequence
We could use less customers.
Posted by: Corporations that support Planned Parenthood at June 20, 2025 11:18 AM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Not to be confused with Pendery's World of Chiles & Spices out of Ft. Worth, Texas. pendrys.com
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:19 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:19 AM (Y9UJs)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (lTGtQ)
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* Perverse Incentives have entered the chat *
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:19 AM (nXhai)
To their credit, when I told them I no longer wanted their crap, spices or e-mails, they immediately discontinued their propaganda. How does this company stay in business?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
I believe it was discussed here a few years ago. Bill (IIRC) Penzey is the moonbat. He retains the Penzey's name for his spices. His non-insane siblings founded Spice House. Same products, no moonbat politics.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:14 AM (MFYQF)
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I've been trying to get all my spices from foreign sources, in part to avoid all the American-company woke poison. So I started getting stuff from Israel, Jamaica, Cambodia, etc. And you know what? The spices are better.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:19 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Archimedes
Same box. Just lighter. Easier to fill less than change the machines for different box size.
Posted by: rickb223
My recent favorite was the muffin mix that proudly stated on their box that the contents made 11 muffins. Do I need to buy a new tray?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:19 AM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at June 20, 2025 11:20 AM (AsQbD)
Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (LgDgc)
I kid, I kid.
You know, that would make a great Forged in Fire episode: give the contestants a pile of scrap, and challenge them to make a safety razor blade.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:20 AM (MFYQF)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (lTGtQ)
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That's how executives get paid. It's all about bonuses and stock incentives. Juice the shit now, pocket as much as you can, and worry about the future when it comes. You might not even be there in a year.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:21 AM (iFTx/)
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Now there's a misnamed product if ever there was.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 11:17 AM (63Dwl)
I used to use a space-age multi bladed razor with advanced ultra shaving cream... always got razor burn yet still had stubble.
Now I use a safety razor. I dry shave, shave against the grain, do all kinds of stupid shit. No stubble, no burn.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 11:22 AM (ExV1e)
But it gives the suits bigger bonuses and that's the only thing they give a fuck about.
Posted by: Shit products + poor wages = C suite bonus! at June 20, 2025 11:22 AM (TbWk/)
Posted by: polynikes
What if we feed mayonnaise to the tuna before we put them in the can?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:22 AM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:22 AM (1IUvn)
I find their tongue-in-cheek overly masculine product names self-depreciatingly funny in a way you don't see in most of the corporate world these days and I'd hate to have to go back from Bear Wrestler to Cool breeze or whatever.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 20, 2025 11:23 AM (B9Prs)
I still use 20-Mule Team Borax after working in the shop. If they go below eight mules, I'm not sure it'll still work.
Posted by: t-bird at June 20, 2025 11:23 AM (YiWOf)
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I'm not the only guy who does that (still after some five decades)? lol
My path through grocery stores aisles occasionally looks like a rat in a maze ..
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:23 AM (nXhai)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:19 AM (5WDkb)
Apparently, that would be penderys.com
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 20, 2025 11:23 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:22 AM (lTGtQ)
As long as it's not Miracle Whip. Some of us have standards.
Posted by: Charlie the Tuna at June 20, 2025 11:24 AM (MFYQF)
Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2025 11:24 AM (pZEOD)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 20, 2025 11:24 AM (gm9Sb)
But they put the number of servings right there on the box of most food. What comprises a serving? Who the hell knows?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:24 AM (Riz8t)
What if we feed mayonnaise to the tuna before we put them in the can?
I think that's what you meant there...
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at June 20, 2025 11:24 AM (AsQbD)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:22 AM (lTGtQ)
*perks up*
Posted by: Kanye West at June 20, 2025 11:24 AM (i24o9)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 20, 2025 11:22 AM (lTGtQ)
Night Shift is a favorite.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:25 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 11:25 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: YCRT_TX at June 20, 2025 11:26 AM (qzwD+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 11:12 AM
I just wait until one offends me. No need to go seeking products to avoid.
Posted by: toby928 at June 20, 2025 11:26 AM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:26 AM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:26 AM (Y9UJs)
Posted by: Pete Buttigeig at June 20, 2025 11:26 AM (MFYQF)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 20, 2025 11:26 AM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: Archimedes
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I watched from another department, the smoldering trash dump fire in the English Department during my entire academic career as a professor.
Basically, none of the professors wanted to teach basic English Comp 1101 and 1102 but all wanted to teach upper division elective courses where they could let their freak flag fly. As their faculty grew, more and more of the basic classes were taught by poorly paid adjuncts while the number of tedious narrowly focused lit courses proliferated. At the same time, the number of students willing to become English majors took a major downturn.
And thus the whole department was in a spiral of circular firing squads for decades based on avoidance of teaching cootie filled non-major classes.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:27 AM (ctrM5)
I use Irish Spring. I don't watch TV anymore and I pay no attention to advertising. If they hate their customers I'd like to live in blissful ignorance.
Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2025 11:27 AM (4jjip)
Fifteen bucks I think for 100 blades and I can shave about five times per blade.
Try that with your ten dollar, five blade Gillette.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 11:28 AM (A5bjg)
Posted by: rickb223
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I recently bought a bag of air, and found a few potato chips in it.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:28 AM (nXhai)
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There has been much talk, here, lately on destructive MBA's.
I worked for a company that was taken over by MBAs by death of the owner who had built a multi-million dollar company from scratch, literally.
In the short five years that they ran the company they succeeded in escorting six other companies, that I know of, into bankruptcy before going bankrupt themselves.
Never did the customer base or customer loyalty enter into their minds. They were despicable, loathsome people.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 11:28 AM (K9XnW)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Did ya ever notice that to pull the anointed putz from a particular position never impacted the work accomplished by that team? If anything, it got rid of a drag on productivity.
There's a lesson there but one that upper management refuses to see.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 11:28 AM (cYBz/)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Yeah. Typo. Sorry.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:28 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:28 AM (1IUvn)
Folgers coffee,12 oz is a pound in their eyes, McDonalds sausage biscuits smaller, didn't change the taste though. All the other burger offerings shrank also and the Mac isn't as good tasting.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 20, 2025 11:29 AM (hKoQL)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:30 AM (VofaG)
There's a lesson there but one that upper management refuses to see.
Posted by: Tonypete
You nickname those people "foreskin". Because they always seem to disappear when the work gets hard.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:30 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
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This is often the case where the cuts in product quality provide an obvious and immediate increase to the bottom line but have long run negative consequences. In many companies, those departments actually making the product are overwhelmed by the finance, HR, marketing, and legal departments.
Ditto for other dysfunctional organizations like public schools, police, etc. The ancillary departments become the tail that wags the productive dog.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:30 AM (ctrM5)
I'm glad I helped them to get there.
I've been a Schick man since that infamous ad, along with you.
I still use Right Guard deodorant (the clear gel type), but I'm sure P&G will screw that up soon enough.
And Dove soap all the way.
My skin would probably freak out if I switched soap brands.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 11:30 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Makes me shudder to this day at June 20, 2025 11:30 AM (TbWk/)
They quit selling them for years.
A lab supply company still had unbranded blades. Apparently biologists use the blades for shaving thin specimens for slides.
Great shave. Close as you want and can takes off a weeks growth w/o clogging.
Posted by: New Name at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Robert
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Hear, hear. Stopped watching everything except football.
When they took a knee the TV went into the closet.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (K9XnW)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 11:06 AM (i24o9)
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Safety razors are the way to go, but there's no need to spend extra money on specific soap. I use Kirk's Castile bar soap for everything - washing, hair, and shaving. It goes on nicely with a brush and lathers well.
For an additional sort-of endorsement, Albert Einstein used the same bar of soap for washing and shaving because he thought having two kinds of soap was inefficient and complicated.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (QdGJh)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (1IUvn)
Almost all one-pound bags of coffee have been shrinkflated to 12 ounces.
Now I order bulk beans online.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (AsQbD)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Yep. And I use the shaving soap in a mug and a good bristle brush too.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (cYBz/)
Great topic Buck. Thanxs.
Posted by: Typical Stormtrooper at June 20, 2025 11:32 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:32 AM (Y9UJs)
There's a lesson there but one that upper management refuses to see.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 11:28 AM (cYBz/)
That's because they're anointed putzes themselves who anoint other putzes
Posted by: Anointed putzes all the way down at June 20, 2025 11:32 AM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (cYBz/)
Bingo. Best shave I have ever had this side of a straight razor.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 20, 2025 11:32 AM (A5bjg)
Posted by: bill in arkansas
Smash Burger hardest hit.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:33 AM (5WDkb)
Speed Stick. Up to two bucks a stick.
Posted by: New Name at June 20, 2025 11:33 AM (/lPRQ)
No clear, clammy gel.
No firehouse of blown powder.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 11:33 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Triple at June 20, 2025 11:33 AM (m9VQL)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 11:33 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Pierre at June 20, 2025 11:34 AM (phEsr)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 11:34 AM (K9XnW)
Speed Stick. Up to two bucks a stick.
Posted by: New Name
Deer nuts. Still under a buck.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:34 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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Bojangles is now slicing their chicken breasts in half (thin).
All while the breakfast biscuit combo price goes up by three dollars.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 11:34 AM (I57y9)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 11:33 AM (ZIggv)
You know who else wanted things 99.44% pure?
Posted by: Yep, that's right. at June 20, 2025 11:35 AM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:35 AM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:36 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:36 AM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Tuna at June 20, 2025 11:36 AM (lJ0H4)
a third of the participants will dominate the conversation.
a third will have opinions but they won't really share them out of deference to the first group.
the last third just came for the swag and the $20.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 20, 2025 11:36 AM (eb5mD)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
Molding corps into the generic is partly to blame. Management in corporations becomes managing the production of widgets. "Back to School" Rodney Dangerfield explains the failure of that approach in real life.
You see the same phenomenon with puffed up types like Tom Friedman that see the world as 'flat' from their clouds.
To these people, customers are sheep to be shorn, workers are to be treated as robots, corporate culture is to be homogenized to whatever the current business school trend tripe is taught, consultants like McKinsey are worshipped as gods, and corporations are essentially viewed as a means of extricating maximum returns for the executive level officials
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Damn straight at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (e9cFD)
a third of the participants will dominate the conversation.
a third will have opinions but they won't really share them out of deference to the first group.
the last third just came for the swag and the $20.
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Jury duty but not required by law.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (I57y9)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:30 AM (ctrM5)
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GM, Ford, and Chrysler all proved this in the 70s and 80s, but apparently nobody paid attention to what happened to them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:36 AM (vm8sq)
Hi guy!
Posted by: Chuck McCann at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (Y9UJs)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (2UnvF)
a third of the participants will dominate the conversation.
a third will have opinions but they won't really share them out of deference to the first group.
the last third just came for the swag and the $20.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell
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No different than criminal or civil juries really.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: bill in arkansas
Smash Burger hardest hit.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:33 AM (5WDkb)
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I don't get the "smash" thing. Seems gimmicky. I like nice fat juicy burgers.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
6 rolls = 12
6 rolls =18
12 rolls = 18
12 rolls =24
Etc.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:38 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: My 12yo self at June 20, 2025 11:38 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 11:38 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:38 AM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:26 AM (1IUvn)
Me too. They recently stopped making my lifetime use soap in bar form. The last few went for like $30 on Ebay.
I just use head and shoulders now as a body wash. Which in a way I was doing all along as I would scrub down twice. Once with shampoo when I washed my hair and once with bar soap.
So I'm saving time and money with this new "let's make everything liquid and put it in plastic bottles with pumps" thing.
Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2025 11:38 AM (LgDgc)
"Oh, thank Gaia, my mouthwash validates my sexual kinks!!"
Does one really need every last product endorsing their particular flavor of deviant sex? Really?
*I know, it's about submission, not validation. But still. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2025 11:39 AM (6o/o0)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:39 AM (iFTx/)
I spent 45 years being the friendly guy who fixed your car right the FIRST time, one by one building a customer base over time and hired people who shared my views on customer service. When I retired, I gifted 2 associates my customer list with the caveat they continue my practices in their newly started partnership.
They did and now have a thriving repair facility with all the business they can handle.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 20, 2025 11:39 AM (hKoQL)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:39 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 20, 2025 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Because the locusts that are in management today are simply out to get what they can while pleasing the investment fund managers. It is somewhat archaic to describe 'shareholders' as at fault because for the most part, massive fund managers like State Street, Vanguard, etc are the effective owners that company executives answer to.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:40 AM (ctrM5)
Don't write this down, but I find Milton probably as boring as you find Milton. Mrs. Milton found him boring too. He's a little bit long-winded, he doesn't translate very well into our generation, and his jokes are terrible.
(Bell rings, students rise to leave)
But that doesn't relieve you of your responsibility for this material. Now I'm waiting for reports from some of you... Listen, I'm not joking. This is my job!
Posted by: Prof Jennings at June 20, 2025 11:40 AM (D0HYP)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 11:37 AM (6ydKt)
Also right around the time when DC decided they wanted to build cars, because they could make them better than Detroit.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:40 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: From about That Time at June 20, 2025 11:40 AM (n4GiU)
Obviously the mouthwash serves a real and vital purpose here.
Posted by: Chuck McCann at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (Y9UJs)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2025 11:05 AM (MFYQF)
One of my closest friends in CT ran the company that makes Zest and Coast (and other mature brands) when it was acquired by a PE firm, and has stayed there through two more changes in ownership. It's now run by an Italian multinational. As soon as PE gets their hooks in a company, the rush to squeeze all the margin they can to prep for the next sale.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (7KTzQ)
Viva cloth. Accept no substitutes. Even the other Viva.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (ZIggv)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (TdCYS)
Posted by: From about That Time
Pop Tarts vs ANY store brand. PT hands down.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Smells like victory at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (TbWk/)
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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But the slightly burnt edges do have an appealing taste and texture. Always have to get a double, and sometimes triple.
I dig.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 11:42 AM (ITkJX)
Because the locusts that are in management today are simply out to get what they can while pleasing the investment fund managers. It is somewhat archaic to describe 'shareholders' as at fault because for the most part, massive fund managers like State Street, Vanguard, etc are the effective owners that company executives answer to.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:40 AM (
Look at how SWA has changed for the worse and is turning into something that would have repulsed Herb Kelleher. Largely thanks to shareholders indifferent to what made that airline work.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:42 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:42 AM (1IUvn)
What is a PE firm?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 20, 2025 11:42 AM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Liked Lever 2000 for a long time.
Dove Men's was not bad until they had to take positions.
I do not like body wash.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 11:43 AM (bss/y)
They are not the only game any more. One of the few good things about the internet is that other companies can and will take your customers from you by offering them what they want.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 20, 2025 11:43 AM (7xrfc)
Well don't you know I've been getting the 'please come back, we miss you' mailings for three years now. Bastids.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 11:43 AM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Ben Had at
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This isn't just the best comment of this thread but maybe of the week.
I love this place and everyone here.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 11:43 AM (I57y9)
What is a PE firm?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Phys Ed. They get you all sweaty and gross, then make you buy their soap.
Posted by: It's a racket I tells ya! at June 20, 2025 11:43 AM (TbWk/)
Posted by: polynikes
Fabuloso es increible!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:43 AM (5WDkb)
I'm switching to any other brand and I don't really know anyone that promiscuously switches brands.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Brand loyalty is more important to older consumers for a variety of reasons and corporations often take advantage of that.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:43 AM (ctrM5)
Viva cloth. Accept no substitutes. Even the other Viva.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (bss/y)
I agree it’s the best per cost but I use so much that the durability of Viva is wasted on me.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:44 AM (VofaG)
The guy doing the report thinks that GM will either go bankrupt or end up just selling Chinese cars with GM nameplates (which they already do).
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 11:44 AM (kR/iT)
Dove Men's was not bad until they had to take positions.
I do not like body wash.
You're never to old to learn something new. I have refused to use any kind of intermediate medium between the soap and my skin. However, it turns out that a washcloth applies and scrubs far more efficiently than the old "move the soap around your bod".
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:44 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:44 AM (Y9UJs)
Some DC advisor in front of GM BODs
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 20, 2025 11:44 AM (gm9Sb)
Some small restaurant wants to increase business, so they go looking for a marketing firm. They find one whose webpage is loaded with awards. "They must be pretty good!" So they hire them.
Marketers want them to hire Megan Rapinoe. "Isn't she that athlete who hates America?" "Trust me--this is a winning plan."
So they run the campaign and business plummets. The marketing firm adds another award--a "Pride" award of course--to their webpage. "Told you this was a winning plan" they tell themselves.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2025 11:44 AM (WPL6O)
[snip]
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:27 AM (ctrM5)
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In the 90's I had the misfortune of living on the bleeding edge of P.C. (and the Seeds of #Wokeness -- cue Simon & Garfunkel) in the NoCal Bay Area.
I was disillusioned & disgusted with Corporate America (even then) and IT in particular (nearly every project a "Death March" one) -- and seriously considered getting a credential to teach & coach high school, as those individuals had great influence on me (particularly the males) having grown up without a father.
Went first to a seminar @ JFK University in Orinda -- in which I was greeted by a room surrounded by posters of minorities and women authors, but not a single white male. Walked out halfway through the idiotic presentation.
Next went to one at SF State, where we were told that you could pass all objective requirements -- with top marks even -- but wouldn't be granted a credential until approved after a final exit interview with the program admin. I knew what that meant: NO WHITE MALES NEED APPLY!
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:45 AM (nXhai)
Posted by: polynikes
Fabuloso es increible!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:43 AM (5WDkb)
I can't stand the smell of Fabuloso. Turns my stomach. Just something about it is sickly and nauseating.
Posted by: Fabubarfo at June 20, 2025 11:45 AM (TbWk/)
Pop Tarts vs ANY store brand. PT hands down.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (5WDkb)
YES.
As much as I despise Kellogg’s, as you said, no store brand comes close to the magic of Pop Tarts.
Frosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon FTW.
(Not kidding about Kellogg’s either. A side panel of a box of Nutri Grain bars, which I used to buy in droves, had some thing on there last year which extolled the virtues of racial segregation. I was done with Nutri Grain bars.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:45 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2025 11:46 AM (Y9UJs)
The guy doing the report thinks that GM will either go bankrupt or end up just selling Chinese cars with GM nameplates (which they already do).
There was a time that the demise of GM would have bothered me. That time is long past. F*** 'em.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:46 AM (Riz8t)
So Merkur safety razor and Taylor of Old Bond St. soap it is. Kicker is the shave is so much better and far less expensive.
Posted by: The Wall at June 20, 2025 11:46 AM (GTqXr)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:40 AM (
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And most of those funds are tied up in 401ks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 11:47 AM (kR/iT)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 11:47 AM (/U5Yz)
Obviously the mouthwash serves a real and vital purpose here.
Posted by: Chuck McCann at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (Y9UJs)
What would you recommend for foot fetishists?
Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2025 11:47 AM (4jjip)
the worst
doesn't lather, I don't even feel clean. I went back to my bougie boutique type soaps or body wash.
Posted by: kallisto at June 20, 2025 11:47 AM (dCxaZ)
Viva cloth. Accept no substitutes. Even the other Viva.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Definitly different brands have different qualities.
There is a place for the cheap minimal function brand as well
as the better quality brand. I buy some of each. No reason to
blow you nose into expensive paper towel.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 11:48 AM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Dr. Varno
Subway should have hot into the taco business if they wanted to use her.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:48 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: bill in arkansas
Smash Burger hardest hit.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:33 AM (5WDkb)
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I don't get the "smash" thing. Seems gimmicky. I like nice fat juicy burgers.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
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I've had a burger from 'Smash Burgers' before.
It was OK, but I'm not sure what the big deal is.
It's flat and has crunchy edges.
Wow, I'm blown away.
Also tried one of Sonic's smash burgers.
Same reaction.
It's a hamburger, other than spices and toppings there's not much you can do to change something that's been around for a century.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 11:48 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: H at June 20, 2025 11:48 AM (2gjbv)
Posted by: Drunken Yoda at June 20, 2025 11:48 AM (ilHZO)
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I wonder if the recent massive influx of illegals, plus states giving out driver's licenses to them like candy, have something to do with thia.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 11:48 AM (Dv3i1)
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I buy what’s on sale. Brand loyalty? Whatevs.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Sorry - Private equity. Carlyle and Blackstone, for instance, are.some of the biggest ones. For finance types these days, PE firms are the place to go for the best and brightest.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (7KTzQ)
I see it everywhere. I don't want your new version of X, give me your old version until I die.
And the real funny thing with software is often they'll include some sort of pop up to annoy you to keep notifying you they have a new feature you don't want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl)
Went first to a seminar @ JFK University in Orinda -- in which I was greeted by a room surrounded by posters of minorities and women authors, but not a single white male. Walked out halfway through the idiotic presentation.
Next went to one at SF State, where we were told that you could pass all objective requirements -- with top marks even -- but wouldn't be granted a credential until approved after a final exit interview with the program admin. I knew what that meant: NO WHITE MALES NEED APPLY!
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:45 AM (nXhai)
Interesting. When applying to teach, administrators will not shut up about how much they want male teachers.
BUT, to your point, and to my disgust, Dallas ISD has adverts on FB some years back asking (I paraphrase) “Are you a BLACK teacher? We are hiring!”
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (FhXTo)
Challenge ACCEPTED!
Posted by: Levi's Jeans, now with even fewer belt loops at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (Riz8t)
And the real funny thing with software is often they'll include some sort of pop up to annoy you to keep notifying you they have a new feature you don't want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (t0Rmr)
Like AI.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Chuck Martel
You almost have to think it had a huge impact.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 11:40 AM (
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And most of those funds are tied up in 401ks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 11:47 AM (kR/iT)
Yup. The hedge funds and PE firms own rather significant stakes in, well, just about every major corp you can think of. So instead of being about the business of their actual business, they're being Blackrock, State Street, Vanguard etc.'s bitch.
Posted by: The oligopolicization and shittification of everything runs apace at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (TbWk/)
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Higher ratio of protein exposed to maillard reaction in a smash burger is supposed to bring more flavor than the traditional fat patty.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:41 AM (5WDkb)
YES.
As much as I despise Kellogg’s, as you said, no store brand comes close to the magic of Pop Tarts.
Frosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon FTW.
(Not kidding about Kellogg’s either. A side panel of a box of Nutri Grain bars, which I used to buy in droves, had some thing on there last year which extolled the virtues of racial segregation. I was done with Nutri Grain bars.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:45 AM (vm8sq)
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I got a few boxes of Pop Tarts last year.
I hadn't had any in decades so I wanted to relive my youth or something.
They tasted the same, I think, but I do seem to remember them being a lot thicker (x2 at least) when I was a kid.
Maybe it's because my hands were smaller back then?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (6ydKt)
You should have called them up and said "The concept of black seems to be a pretty easy one to grasp, but yes, I can do that".
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (1IUvn)
I miss the days when I actually believed things were real and carefully considered and deliberately and meaningfully thought out, and that CEOs played a crucial role in the direction of the companies. 2001 or so, I guess.
I can still sort of remember defending what we thought and now pretend (mainly for old times sake) was capitalism.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (I57y9)
Posted by: Dr. Varno
Subway should have hot into the taco business if they wanted to use her.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:48 AM (5WDkb)
No, no, no. Megan Rapinoe needed to be hired as a spokes-it by top scissor manufacturers.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Ben Had
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You could have a lot of fun marketing that product to humans.
/Is that a typo of "40 lb tub" or "4 lb tube?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (nXhai)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2025 11:25 AM (63Dwl)
My gramma used to make her own lye soap. I've used it. The first two rubs takes the dirt off. Anything after that takes the skin off.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: rickb223
The only non-frosted flavors now are strawberry and blueberry. They got rid of my non-frosted cherry. F*ckers.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: polynikes
According to THIS fat boy in Texas in summer, sometimes 2x a day isn't.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (5WDkb)
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I wonder if the recent massive influx of illegals, plus states giving out driver's licenses to them like candy, have something to do with thia.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 11:48 AM (Dv3i1)
It probably has some impact but not a 20% YOY increase impact. Inflation affected car repair like everything else. Shit an oil change used to be $25-30 not that long ago. Now Walmart charges $60.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 20, 2025 11:52 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 11:52 AM (kR/iT)
The guy doing the report thinks that GM will either go bankrupt or end up just selling Chinese cars with GM nameplates (which they already do).
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 11:44 AM (kR/iT)
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GM is probably better off without that agreement, though. It was mainly for smaller and EV vehicles for the Chinese market, which GM isn't making money on. GM will likely go the Ford route and get rid of all cars, and sell only trucks and SUVs.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:52 AM (iFTx/)
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Pop tarts, toilet paper, and peanut butter are my never generics.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 11:53 AM (I57y9)
Sweden has solved that problem. They have enough for their own needs, but they're obligated to share with the rest of the EU, especially Germany, who got rid of all their reliable energy sources, so a shower in Sweden now costs $5.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:53 AM (Riz8t)
And the real funny thing with software is often they'll include some sort of pop up to annoy you to keep notifying you they have a new feature you don't want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (t0Rmr)
Windows is a great example. It peaked with Windows 7 in terms of ease of use, interface, functionality. Then it started making changes that nobody asked for and turned itself into bloatware, meanwhile forcing the new versions onto unwilling users because they didn't want to throw their computers out.
Posted by: The live action Snow White of tech at June 20, 2025 11:53 AM (TbWk/)
OK, Lucy.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (/lPRQ)
That’s nice. They can’t be bothered following the Vienna Convention of 1961. If they can’t master the basics they are not to be trusted. Ever.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:53 AM (vm8sq)
So they run the campaign and business plummets. The marketing firm adds another award--a "Pride" award of course--to their webpage. "Told you this was a winning plan" they tell themselves.
At the individual level marketers and the like see benefits from embracing woke crap even if it harms their company or clients.
And people respond to incentives. If Jane Marketer gets more pay, status, or a better job for work that costs her clients money she will keep doing it. And continue doing it until we align incentives and the value of her work...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:53 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (/
Where the hell is my frosted apple cinnamon???
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:54 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: H at June 20, 2025 11:54 AM (2gjbv)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (ZIggv)
It's a well known fact that getting rid of most of your product line is the path to profit.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (nXhai)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
If saponification is complete, there is no caustic soda left. If not, you have the reason why you weren't supposed to use soap on cast iron.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (5WDkb)
Same reaction.
It's a hamburger, other than spices and toppings there's not much you can do to change something that's been around for a century.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June
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It works really well with a fried egg on top, which you can get at some of the joints. Better than on a fat burger.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (ITkJX)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (I57y9)
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Hey man, all those rich people are rich because they are so much smarter and better than everyone else. That’s what the Cato Institute says anyway. I still get a LOL when some morons hear repeat that crap.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (kR/iT)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (L/fGl)
Well, outside of a genuine Mexican food truck in LA or SD...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (/U5Yz)
this is sad news, seriously
non-frosted superior to the frosted IMO
maybe we can start a change.org petition to bring back the NO FROSTING POP TARTS PLZ
Posted by: kallisto at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (dCxaZ)
Now there's a misnamed product if ever there was.
1. Don't push, let the weight of the razor cut.
2. Plan on multiple passes, don't expect to have a perfect shave with only one pass & try to push down to get closer, that's where the nicks come from. It takes less than one minute to reapply soap & do another pass, the first one is what takes the longest.
Rockwell 6s razor (adjustable plates) that will last decades, Astra double edge blades that are about a dime & that last 3-4 weeks of daily shaves. Stirling Soap or Razorock soap lasts 12-18 months.
Witch hazel immediately after shaving (nature's astringent) then after shave.
When I switched to that routine versus cartridge blades, I went from uncomfortable razor burns & trying to get more shaves out of dull blades to MUCH cheaper shaves & a face that looks and feels like a million bucks.
Posted by: Cam Winston at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (AHpRo)
If someone says they don't want me as a customer, I take them at their word and honor their request.
Posted by: imp at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (g6TN6)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (ZIggv)
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Very cool.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (nXhai)
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 20, 2025 11:31 AM (QdGJh)
What did he know?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (i24o9)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (1IUvn)
‘ Painstakingly filed down from old Morris Minor leaf springs.’
I see you buy Tetanus brand razor blades as well.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (jbnUc)
You should have called them up and said "The concept of black seems to be a pretty easy one to grasp, but yes, I can do that".
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (Riz8t)
Also they had ads that said (paraphrasing) “Are you a LATINO teacher?”
I felt like calling the state AG.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (vm8sq)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (7KTzQ)
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Carlyle is the worst. Back around 2001-2002 I worked for a company that got picked up by Carlyle, and it went from a decent place to work to an absolute hellscape within just a few months. They did a pump-and-dump, and what came after was even more awful. Company no longer exists, but they squeezed their dime out of it.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (QdGJh)
Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (LgDgc)
The guy doing the report thinks that GM will either go bankrupt or end up just selling Chinese cars with GM nameplates (which they already do).
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 11:44 AM (kR/iT)
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I'm going to watch that when I get a chance.
https://youtu.be/guAxFDafF1o
(for anybody else who wants to check it out)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Unfrosted cherry was my favorite too.
Posted by: Tuna at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: Don Black at June 20, 2025 11:57 AM (AOsQT)
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Don't forget what was disclosed back around 2020.
Corporations don't get day to day and week to week loans if they don't agree to what Blackrock, Vanguard, etc demand.
That's where the big corporate gay and tranny push originated. It was all tied to operational costs. The companies knew their customers didn't want it, but it didn't matter. They had to have the loans.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 11:57 AM (I57y9)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 11:57 AM (Q4IgG)
So what happens?
A ne exec gets hired. Rather than be a steward of the brand, he wants to make a name for himself. Expand its market slice or cheapen the product. Something to goose profits so he can put that on his resume for the next job. Thye didn't get in this biz just to...sit there.
But once a product is perfected, there is no direction but down. Everything you do makes the product worse.
Bud Light - most popular beer in the U.S. But people are just drinking less beer. What to do? Hire a marketing person who says that getting more trans people to drink bud light is going to goose sales. Chasing a demographic that is never going to buy your shit.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 20, 2025 11:57 AM (D1vbu)
It's a well known fact that getting rid of most of your product line is the path to profit.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (Riz8t)
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They use a dot chart. No reason to make a vehicle that nets you only $500 profit when other vehicles make $10,000 profit.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 20, 2025 11:57 AM (kR/iT)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2025 11:58 AM (IG2sK)
Posted by: far cry at June 20, 2025 11:58 AM (icg0u)
Posted by: Ben Had
What about Mane & Tail? I've heard some people love it.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 11:58 AM (5WDkb)
I can still sort of remember defending what we thought and now pretend (mainly for old times sake) was capitalism.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (I57y9)
Like so many other red-blooded 'Muricans I believed the same bullshit because that's what we got drilled into our heads and were brainwashed to believe that anyone who thought differently was a godless Commie son of a bitch. Turns out that, like so many other things, it was bullshit.
Posted by: We have an oligopolic quasi-fascist economy at June 20, 2025 11:58 AM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2025 11:56 AM (LgDgc)
That was his brother who founded the cereal company. They had a little falling out.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:58 AM (VofaG)
It's a well known fact that getting rid of most of your product line is the path to profit.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (Riz8t)
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The market for regular cars is shrinking. There are few models that reliably sell, and they are all Japanese or German. The only vehicles that GM or Ford can sell and make money on are trucks and SUVs. Ford already got rid of all its regular cars other than the Mustang.
I think they're all yugely fucked -- and fucked themselves -- with the EV fad. Tens of billions down the shitter. The fallout from that could be catastrophic.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 20, 2025 11:59 AM (L/fGl)
non-frosted superior to the frosted IMO
maybe we can start a change.org petition to bring back the NO FROSTING POP TARTS PLZ
Posted by: kallisto
Just looking at a frosted will give you immediate diabetes.
www.StopTheFrosting.org
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 11:59 AM (/U5Yz)
Understood. But here's the thing; if you can't be profitable and competitive making cars, there's something wrong. Perhaps your wage structure is out of whack. Perhaps you don't have good quality. Regardless, if you can't make a competitive car, sooner or later you'll be unable to make a competitive SUV or truck. I argue they're already there, and since they refuse to address the problems, they'll soon be OOB.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: far cry at June 20, 2025 11:58 AM (icg0u)
lol
guilty pleasure
any port in a storm
Posted by: kallisto at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: far cry at June 20, 2025 11:58 AM (icg0u)
Same people who eat Hot Pockets😀
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: imp at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (g6TN6)
"I don't want you at my concerts!"
"OK, no sweat. Who the hell are you, again?"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (BjH5D)
I'll say! Have you seen the size of a Baby Ruth bar lately?
Posted by: Paco at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: The live action Snow White of tech
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MS scrapping Win 7 for Windows 8 is why I went to Linux for home computing. I still keep a current Windows machine on a boot partition via Grub for a few tasks like tax and accounting software that do not have a good counterpart in Linux and would be a PITA to run under WINE.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
When we got into the poison ivy gramma would haul our naked butts down to the creek and scrub us with handfuls of sand and her lye soap.
She had arm muscles like a blacksmith and no amount of fighting or wiggling would set you free. I swear that cleansing took off most of your skin.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (t0Rmr)
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Higher ratio of protein exposed to maillard reaction in a smash burger is supposed to bring more flavor than the traditional fat patty.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (Dv3i1)
I had one recently, a double cheese, made on a Blackstone. Gotta say, I am a convert. But I was pretty hungry, too, having not eaten all day, so I had two doubles.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (D1vbu)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (VofaG)
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I don't feel right if I haven't had a shower.
Like I'm doing something wrong.
It also helps to wake me up.
And I don't want to smell myself when it's 95F and 80% humidity outside, so there's that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (6ydKt)
You should have called them up and said "The concept of black seems to be a pretty easy one to grasp, but yes, I can do that".
Posted by: Archimedes
Just like Talcum X, "My lily white ass identifies as black".
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (5WDkb)
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Haven't they already done this minus the Camaro (same as Ford with the mustang)?
I think the Malibu was killed off last year. I don't think they have any other cars.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (I57y9)
Remember shrinkflation is both corporate greed and a reichwing conspiracy theory to harm Kamala Harris.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (ZIggv)
But once a product is perfected, there is no direction but down. Everything you do makes the product worse.
Or herself. Case study Carly Fiorina. Handed the keys to a money-making machine. Called it Brad. Then totaled Brad.
Posted by: Still got her golden parachute at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (TbWk/)
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Haven't they already done this minus the Camaro (same as Ford with the mustang)?
I think the Malibu was killed off last year. I don't think they have any other cars.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (I57y9)
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Camaro is already dead, my friend. GM still sells some sedans (Cadillac CT series, etc) and of course the Vette. But its overwhelming profit centers are trucks and SUVs.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: imp
Bruce Springsteen Blasts Trump as a “Moron” on Same Day “Springsteen” Movie Trailer Drops
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 20, 2025 12:03 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (ctrM5)
Same here, except I had to buy Win11 to put on a VM when the firm went to MS's insane cloud PCs instead of the traditional VPN/Remote Desktop.
When I bought the kids new PCs, they went straight to Linux Mint (had Linux light on ten year old hardware). Best move ever.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2025 12:03 PM (i24o9)
I definitely wasn’t brainwashed. Even my High School in the perceived back assward state of Louisiana taught us about Robber Barons, crony capitalism , stock market shenanigans ,etc.
It’s where I learned how the transcontinental RR was the biggest crony capitalism scam of the time.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Paco at June 20, 2025 12:00 PM (mADJX)
Don't even make for a suitable fake turd in a pool anymore.
Posted by: It's an outrage! at June 20, 2025 12:03 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Archimedes
Car - feels like sitting 3 inches off the pavement.
Truck - Feels like sitting 5 feet off the pavement.
I prefer to sit higher.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 12:03 PM (5WDkb)
I just bought a vehicle - a Honda Passport - a vehicle I didn't even know existed when I started shopping. I was originally looking for a sedan, but they're all hybrids now, and I don't want one of those.
I did not even consider GM, Ford, or Stellantis. Why? Because the last few cars I've bought from them were crap in terms of quality and durability. Thus, they are completely off my radar screen now.
This is not how you last in any business.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:03 PM (Riz8t)
BUT, to your point, and to my disgust, Dallas ISD has adverts on FB some years back asking (I paraphrase) “Are you a BLACK teacher? We are hiring!”
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2025 11:49 AM (vm8sq)
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Right, even back then (mid-90s) there was a notable shortage of Math and Science (now STEM) teachers -- especially males -- to the point where every couple of years the idea was floated of just letting such professionals teach without having to get the idiotic credential.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 12:04 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 12:04 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:52
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Didn't Ford go that route because of CAFE standards. MPG requirements were lower for trucks/suvs than cars?
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 20, 2025 12:04 PM (ViCCR)
OK, Lucy.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2025 11:50 AM (/lPRQ)
Kill that guy and his replacement. Repeat as necessary until you get someone who says they'll bend over to every Israeli demand no matter how unreasonable.
Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (4jjip)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (ITkJX)
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Never tried a egg-hamburger sandwich before.
It sounds interesting, I'll try it if I ever come across one.
I've noticed a lot of places around here are putting pimento cheese on hamburgers in the last few years.
I tried one of those and it wasn't bad at all.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: far cry
You haven't lived until you've broken the seal on a boxcar full of blueberry poptarts that have been sitting out in a summer sun for a day or two. The cloud of nastiness that rolls out truly takes your breath away. We'd have to let them air out for 10 minutes or so before we could unload the car. Honestly, it would suffocate you.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Cow Demon
Let's not be reactionary - did they at least list a few 'cons' with all the 'virtues'?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2025 12:04 PM (od0dV)
I dunno man. Check the ruling class in the run up to WWI. They may be the gold standard.
Posted by: Inbreds running the show at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Ben Had
👍🏻👍🏻 I've known more than one who swears by it. I don't have enough mane to worry about.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (4jjip)
We want . . . a shrubbery!
Posted by: Israel at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (i24o9)
repeatedly TBWK/ And never say anything positive that I can recall , use an actual handle instead of people having to read in the nic line whaever his additional comments are?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG)
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I learned that by watching the "Hell On Wheels" television series.
/only half-joking
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (nXhai)
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 11:52
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Didn't Ford go that route because of CAFE standards. MPG requirements were lower for trucks/suvs than cars?
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 20, 2025 12:04 PM (ViCCR)_______
A little of everything. CAFE was a factor. So was terrible mismanagement, mediocre cars, and very heavy competition from foreign brands.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (iFTx/)
Didn't even have to wade through a bunch of dry poorly translated dreck from Engels to get there like people used to have to, either. Well done.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (BjH5D)
Like I'm doing something wrong.
It also helps to wake me up.
And I don't want to smell myself when it's 95F and 80% humidity outside, so there's that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 12:01 PM (6ydKt)
I understand the psychological benefits and I’m still a prisoner of it but scrubbing off the good bacteria from your skin everyday and washing away the oils out of your hair everyday has a negative effect.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 12:05 PM (5WDkb)
And nowhere near enough tail.
Posted by: As is the fate of most men these days at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (TbWk/)
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It's partly tied to Obamas wrong-headed "footprint" EPA mpg standard. It's why everything is huge. Even his staff admited they caused vehicles to grow enormous.
The big part is more interesting.
Pedestrian safety standards require a certain shape of the hood and space between the engine and the metal. It's nearly impossible design a smooth line with those requirements, which is why you see Japanese cars with the weird ridge ahead of the mirror. Look at a new car the next time you drive and you'll see the design requirement.
SUVs avoid it completely since they're high three box designs. No need to try to blend a hood into a low passenger compartment.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (I57y9)
Excellent! Meet us Monday at the Parsian Esteghlal Meeting Room 1 at 7:00 am sharp! Bring your friends and don't be late!
--Israeli Minister of Espionage and Large Kabooms
Posted by: Polka will never die at June 20, 2025 12:07 PM (NZ3mj)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2025 12:07 PM (K9XnW)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 12:08 PM (1IUvn)
Didn't even have to wade through a bunch of dry poorly translated dreck from Engels to get there like people used to have to, either. Well done.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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If I was in any way unclear, I was saying that I was successfully fooled into thinking what we have WAS capitalism.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 12:09 PM (I57y9)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 11:51 AM (1IUvn)
Lot of steroids?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 12:09 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2025 12:09 PM (bss/y)
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It's partly tied to Obamas wrong-headed "footprint" EPA mpg standard. It's why everything is huge. Even his staff admited they caused vehicles to grow enormous.
And yet, Japanese and Korean car companies manage it. Why can't we? Perhaps because our managers are focused on the next quarter, and we pay lazy, fat-ass illiterates absurd amounts of money to do jobs a chimp could do. There's a reason none of the transplants located in Detroit.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:09 PM (Riz8t)
/only half-joking
Posted by: ShainS
Pulls out Uberti Remington 1858 New Army Black Powder pistol and spins the cylinder a couple of times.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2025 12:09 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: fozzy at June 20, 2025 12:10 PM (zH2yS)
Didn't even have to wade through a bunch of dry poorly translated dreck from Engels to get there like people used to have to, either. Well done.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (BjH5D)
I didn't call it Capitalism. I don't even really like that term at this point, for some of the reasons you mention. I would prefer referring to a free market economy as the ideal, as opposed to the bastardized term of "Capitalism" which has Marxist roots and a warped modern meaning.
Posted by: I agree, language is important at June 20, 2025 12:10 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 20, 2025 12:10 PM (1IUvn)
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 12:09 PM (I57y9)
^This.
Posted by: v That. at June 20, 2025 12:11 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Tallahassee /u] at June 20, 2025 12:11 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2025 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: kallisto at June 20, 2025 12:11 PM (dCxaZ)
Look next time you're driving. That's why cars are being phased out.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 12:11 PM (I57y9)
Posted by: far cry at June 20, 2025 11:58 AM (icg0u)
Is this like the cilantro thing where people who lack a certain gene all say it tastes like soap?
Liking/disliking Poptarts may be evidence of having certain genes.
We need $50,000,000 in govt grants to do a study.
Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2025 12:11 PM (4jjip)
Posted by: I agree, language is important at June 20, 2025 12:10 PM (TbWk/)
here hear. I mean hear here. I mean yeah, that.
I'm fond of the line that says "Capitalism isn't an '-ism', it's just what naturally happens spontaneously when you stop screwing with people and trying to fleece them or leash them."
I paraphrase.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2025 12:12 PM (BjH5D)
No. Evil monopolies in the clutches of the CCP.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 20, 2025 12:12 PM (wBaIH)
Didn't even have to wade through a bunch of dry poorly translated dreck from Engels to get there like people used to have to, either. Well done.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Capitalism ain’t bad but people are when their only focus is pursuing money. The thing capitalism has going for it is it’s by far the best system of all the economic systems.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 12:13 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2025 12:06 PM (VofaG)
I've heard the same and maybe there's something to that.
But my fuzzy, wavy-like-a-duck's-back, hair would not agree with a shower twice a week policy.
I can hardly get it to stay brushed now after it's wet, I'd drive myself crazy trying to keep this hair in check especially when it's humid out.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 20, 2025 12:13 PM (6ydKt)
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I suspect the chicken tax somehow plays a role, but I'm not versed enough in that aspect.
Regardless it's the safety standard that is key, not the mpg. The mpg just allows easier embrace of the easy safety standard solution.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at June 20, 2025 12:13 PM (I57y9)
No. Evil monopolies in the clutches of the CCP.
TBF, Walmart immediately disavowed her comments. She and the company have nothing to do with each other.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2025 12:13 PM (Riz8t)
When I bought the kids new PCs, they went straight to Linux Mint (had Linux light on ten year old hardware). Best move ever.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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At work, I moved to a Mac notebook but frankly did most of my work on Linux at home because Safari sux as a browser.
Still do the obsolete dual boot because I simply do not need to run VMs or containers because I am not a code developer. I usually stay about 1-2 generations of hardware behind but maximize RAM memory nowadays as the premium for cutting edge power is simply too high for my computer builds.
Since retired, I am now in the process of decommissioning old computer builds back to the 90's.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:14 PM (ctrM5)
Unless every cycle of the product use/replacement brings in $100 each time, they actually save money by that $0.01 cost savings - it just isn't ALL savings, but it's enough to offset the lost customer base.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 20, 2025 12:15 PM (bufu1)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 20, 2025 11:55 AM (ITkJX)
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Never tried a egg-hamburger sandwich before.
It sounds interesting, I'll try it if I ever come across one.
I've noticed a lot of places around here are putting pimento cheese on hamburgers in the last few years.
I tried one of those and it wasn't bad at all.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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Olive Burgers !!!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2025 12:20 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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I can see Ford having to merge with another auto maker in the near future.
Posted by: whig at June 20, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2025 12:23 PM (w6EFb)
Chevy and Ford - Cherd.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2025 12:29 PM (WPL6O)
Posted by: Octochicken at June 20, 2025 12:41 PM (oCS0o)
Oh FFS, that is not why shrinkflation exists. It exists because inflation has been driving up the cost of everything, including the entire supply chain that goes into making your soap. If those costs were factored in to the retail cost, you'd be paying three times what you used to and the sticker shock would crater sales. So they reduce the size of the package or unit to keep the cost per item increase down to something that won't panic the customers.
There's a few markets that are truly oligopolies, where the sellers raise prices simply because they can. Soap isn't one of them. Learn how to do math and compare the cost per weight of your soap brand and all the competitors and you'll see what's actually happening.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 20, 2025 12:44 PM (xBngO)
Posted by: Its the pits at June 20, 2025 01:04 PM (cvJQ+)
Advertising wokeness (insulting their customers) is one of the best advertising for their competitors!
I could name some of those woke producers, but you already know them.
Posted by: john at June 20, 2025 02:29 PM (nEWxZ)
--Get real! Howdy Doody the puppet had more backbone than almost any public company corporate board member. Members are there for the wine, cocktails, trips and pony rides--not to police the CEOs or any other destructor.
Posted by: Puppet Master 16 Crapification of the CEO at June 20, 2025 03:46 PM (cvJQ+)
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