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Sunday Morning Book Thread 12-26-2021

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Merry Christmas!

Yuletide greetings to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, and crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even these pants, which serve chiefly as a reminder that so much of the left is just bad performance art, would be acceptable.



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Free For A Limited Time:

I've mentioned Fenton Wood's Yankee Republic: A Mythic Radio Adventure YA series before, but this is the first time that all 5 books in the series have been brought together in one volume. It's a story that takes some unexpected directions:

A young radio engineer travels across an alt-history America, encountering primeval gods, mythical beasts, and tall tales come to life, in a quest to build a radio transmitter that can reach the stars.

A unique take on American magical realism, combining hard SF and ancient mythology. It starts out as a boys' adventure tale, and blows up into a bigger and weirder world than you ever imagined.

YANKEE REPUBLIC is an old-school adventure series with traditional values and down-to-earth heroes. Escape from the pessimism and propaganda of modern fiction, and take a journey through a mythic America that might have been.

Omnibus edition containing the complete text of all 5 books.

A dead tree edition is also available. See the author's website for details.



Who Dis:

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Last week's who dis was Dennis Hopper, boning up on his acting lessons on the set of Rebel Without A Cause.



Christmas Reading

Discovered this book, A Tudor Christmas, by Alison Weir and Siobhan Clarke, which premise is that much of our Christmas traditions have their origins not in the Victorian era, but actually much earlier:

Christmas in Tudor times was a period of feasting, revelry and merrymaking ‘to drive the cold winter away’. A carnival atmosphere presided at court, with a twelve-day-long festival of entertainments, pageants, theatre productions and ‘disguisings’, when even the king and queen dressed up in costume to fool their courtiers...

We might assume that our modern Christmas owes much to the Victorians. In fact, as Alison Weir and Siobhan Clarke reveal in this fascinating book, many of our favourite Christmas traditions date back much further. Carol-singing, present-giving, mulled wine and mince pies were all just as popular in Tudor times, and even Father Christmas and roast turkey dinners have their origins in this period. The festival was so beloved by English people that Christmas traditions survived remarkably unchanged in this age of tumultuous religious upheaval.

The book is kind of spendy, but it's illustrated with original line drawings throughout, which sounds like it might be a nice coffee table book, one you can pick up, read a few pages at random, and then come back to it later.



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Moron Recommendations

193...There's an entire genre of romance where the woman has to choose between the Rich Mr. Big and the handsome, penniless guy.

That this is even a choice speaks volumes.

And yeah, I included this well-used trope in my amusingly-written but tragically non-selling romance novel, Scorpion's Pass, which has been accurately described as Jane Austen's Dune.

Don't let the genre fool ya - I included a kick-ass battle sequence with giant sailing ships on wheels fighting off hordes of savages.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 10:17 AM (llXky)

The Amazon blurb for Scorpion's Pass: A Tale of Love and War says this novel "sets the society and culture of Regency England against a backdrop of desert-roaming warships and mysterious not-quite-human savages. A blend of the historical and fantastic, Scorpion's Pass is a tale of love and honor in a time of war."

Romance, fighting, alt-Regency backdrop, sounds like a novel with something for everybody. And best of all, the Kindle edition is only $2.99.

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I saw this one on Twitter the other day, and if you're a student of baseball history, you might want to check out Ted Sullivan, Barnacle of Baseball: The Life of the Prolific League Founder, Scout, Manager and Unrivaled Huckster. I had never heard of Ted Sullivan before, but I'm curious about a man who has somehow picked up the title "Barnacle of Baseball":

In his day, perhaps no one in baseball was better known than Irish-born Timothy Paul "Ted" Sullivan. For 50 years, America's sportswriters sang his praises, genuflected to his genius and bought his blarney by the barrel. Damon Runyon dubbed him "The Celebrated Carpetbagger of Baseball." Cunning, fast-talking, witty and sober, Sullivan was the game's first player agent, a groundbreaking scout who pulled future Hall of Famers from the bushes, an author, a playwright and a baseball evangelist who promoted the game across five continents. He coined the term "fan" and was among the first to suggest the designated hitter--because pitchers were "a lot of whippoorwill swingers." ... Unearthing thousands of contemporaneous newspaper accounts, this first exhaustive biography of "Hustlin'" Ted Sullivan recounts the life and career of one of the greatest hucksters in the history of the game.

The downside of this book is that it's quite expensive: $40(!) for the paperback and $18(!!) for the Kindle edition. Perhaps a visit to your local library would suffice.

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Hopefully, life will be back to normal next week so I won't have to skimp on the content. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Liz

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 09:00 AM (ONvIw)

2 I share Violet's plan for gifts.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 09:00 AM (ONvIw)

3 Not much time for reading this week but did get in a few more pages of The guns of John Moses Browning by N. Gorenstein.

It's fantastic so far.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:03 AM (mD/uy)

4 Tolle Lege
And have, Christmas eve atused book store got Enemy at the Gate: The Battle for Stalingrad by William Craig and just finished a short book by a friend in my England days From Void to Universe by C.T. Ransbury

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 09:03 AM (2JoB8)

5 Wassail On!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2021 09:03 AM (4I/2K)

6 I've taken a break from serious work to enjoy Agatha Christie's Parker Pyne Investigates stories. Pyne does some detecting and puts to work his massive knowledge of statistics, but it's the solving unhappiness with statistics and an understanding of the human condition that made the best stories.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 09:03 AM (ONvIw)

7 Morning, Horde...How goes it? I've been reading James Clements' The Banned and the Banished: Wit'ch Fire. It's a pretty conventional heroic fantasy, though it has enough twists to make it interesting. Clements is pretty fond of abusing apostrophes (wit'ch, og're, elv'in, d'warf, etc.) but it's still easy enough to read. Characters have enough complexity and development to keep them interesting. The main character is a young woman who suddenly manifests magical abilities (standard fantasy trope) but in her first use of that power she accidentally burns her parents alive. She's a little traumatized by that event. The first book is all about her wrestling with her new abilities and avoiding the minions of the Dark One. Not wholly original, but present ideas in some original ways. I'll give it a "B+".

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:05 AM (K5n5d)

8 Love the Christmas Tree of Books.

I have resembled Violet in the past.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 09:05 AM (QR5m0)

9 Good morning and Merry Christmas to my fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:05 AM (7EjX1)

10 Elizabeth Taylor. If you ask me who the most beautiful woman in the world was, that would be my answer.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 09:05 AM (cTCuP)

11 I like the book tree. The first picture looks like Fred McMurray-who was quite a versatile actor-who could play the cheating boss in "The Apartment" as well as the father in "My Three Sons" in addition to many other roles. McMurray was a conservative. He also seems to have had a conservative married life. He was married to his first wife from 1936-53, ended by her death, and to his second wife from 1954-1991, ended with his death.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (KBCaU)

12 Magellan TV had a documentary about Tudor Christmas last week. I thought MTV was sub only, but they do have free content, at least through Roku.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (7bRMQ)

13 I finished watching Amazon Prime's "adaptation" of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time book series. It was catastrophically bad from the first scene in episode 1 to the last scene in episode 8. Rian Johnson Rafe Judkins shat all over the lore, all over the characters, and all over the themes from the original source material. Deliberately, and with malice aforethought he ruined what could have been an epic, awesome television event.

The Wheel of Time has three main themes that are important to understanding the series. 1) The duality of men and women as part of the natural balance of the world. Every society and every culture in the series plays around with this idea in very important ways. From the smallest villages with their Village Councils and Womens' Circles to the grand world-shaping organizations of the White (female) and Black (male) Towers, this idea that men and women work both against each other and with each other to accomplish the greatest feats is absolutely central to the story. 2) Choices and consequences. Time and time again, the main characters are provided with key options and choices that have profound effects later in the story.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (K5n5d)

14 Hot Coffee!!!...Boxing Day!!!

Posted by: Qmark at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (emnp2)

15 Nice Book Christmas Tree!

Those aren't pants...that's a moving target.

The Who Dis looks like that broad who married that drunk fella a bunch of times.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (6FtXF)

16 Discovered this book, A Tudor Christmas, by Alison Weir and Siobhan Clarke, which premise is that much of our Christmas traditions have their origins not in the Victorian era, but actually much earlier:

I've read that traditional Christmas celebrating had fallen out of favor, probably because of the Worldwide Conspiracy of Karens Throughout the Course of History.
*ahem*

But, i digress. It was the Victorians who re-brought Christmas celebrations as we know them to the forefront again, A Christmas Renaissance if you will.

And that's probably why we associated the traditional Christmas celebrations with them.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (5NkmN)

17 Part 2 (con'td)
Part of their growth and development is recognizing these choices and being willing to accept those consequences. Even at the very end of the story the Dragon Reborn is given options for resolving the conflict with the Dark One. The Creator gives all of the characters free will and allows them to exercise it as they see fit. Sometimes they make mistakes that come back to haunt them. 3) Sacrifice. All of the main characters are required to make tremendous sacrifices in order to further their goal towards saving the world. Again, their character arcs depend on them understanding the consequences of those sacrifices. The Dragon Reborn in particular is presumed to make the greatest sacrifice (his life) in order to save a world that actively hates him for it (not all the world, but enough people are terrified of him that he might as well be the Dark One in their minds).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:07 AM (K5n5d)

18 Part 3 (cont'd)
None of these themes are present in the television series. Instead we are shown a world where the "arrogance of men" left the Dark One free to wreak havoc on the world (spoiler: in the books a woman led the effort to drill a hole into the Dark One's prison). At every opportunity, men are denigrated and presented as cowards, running from every conflict. Only women have the strength to stand up and fight and succeed. Men always choose the wrong path. The supposed main characters are shuffled from set piece to set piece with little to no agency of their own. Whenever Rafe introduces material from the books it is stripped of essential context that gives that content significance. The entire show from beginning to end is an SJW skinsuit of the source material.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:07 AM (K5n5d)

19 Elizabeth Taylor?

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:07 AM (7EjX1)

20 Today is the Feast of St Stephen a early martyr in the Christian church


Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 09:07 AM (2JoB8)

21 Part 4 (cont'd)
Personally, I find that there is a strong Christian influence that runs through the Wheel of Time book series, even though there are also strong overtones of Nordic mythology (Rand, Perrin, and Mat all embody traits of Tyr, Thor, and Odin respectively). The idea that men and women complement each other, forming a complete whole, is taken straight out of Christian teachings. As is the idea that we are granted free will by our Creator to make choices. Some choices lead us into sin, but as the Whitecloaks say, "No man is so lost in Shadow that he cannot be brought back into the Light." And of course, the concept of the Creator sacrificing His chosen avatar through blood to save all of mankind is deliberately evocative of Jesus Christ's sacrifice to save our souls.

Here's wishing all of you fellow Morons a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:08 AM (K5n5d)

22 I did not get any books for Christmas, but I didn't ask for any.
We got FenSon "Mere Christianity, "The Great Divorce" and
"The Screwtape Letters", all by C.S. Lewis, of course, so if he doesn't get around to reading them for a while I will read them again. Well, actually I've read them all several times;

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2021 09:08 AM (KBCaU)

23 Reading the 2nd book of Iron Vikings (recommended here) and enjoying it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 09:08 AM (QR5m0)

24 Is anyone using an iPad having the main page constantly fucking up their browser?

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 09:08 AM (y7DUB)

25 I recalled seeing and liking the Parker Pyne stories from having watched The Agatha Christie Hour some 40 years ago. The stories are not exactly the same, as they embellish the plot by showing you the events some of the characters "thought" about during the story, and adding the period costuming and lifestyles.

Pyne shares a secretary with Poirot, a younger, but no less efficient Miss Felicity Lemon.

Christie recycled some ideas throughout her career, and even a title. Parker Pyne's Death on the Nile has little to do with Poirot's story.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 09:09 AM (ONvIw)

26 I have resembled Violet in the past.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 09:05 AM (QR5m0)

Thanks for the Christmas card you sent me, Violet.

Posted by: Charlie B at December 26, 2021 09:09 AM (7bRMQ)

27 And that's probably why we associated the traditional Christmas celebrations with them.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (5NkmN)
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I think there's a lot of Germanic influence on the modern Christmas traditions as well.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:09 AM (K5n5d)

28 Good shout out Skip!
St. Stephen (1st. c.) was one of the Church's first deacons in Jerusalem and an eloquent preacher of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. According to Sacred Scripture he was "a man full of faith, and of the Holy Ghost" and "full of grace and fortitude." The account of his martyrdom is recorded in the Acts of the Apostles. After boldly preaching against the Jewish leaders for their rejection of the promised Messiah, he was accused of blasphemy and stoned to death by an angry mob. The man who would later become St. Paul the Apostle, while he was persecuting the Church before his conversion, was among the mob as an approving witness. St. Stephen's name comes from the Greek word meaning 'crown,' fitting as he was the first Christian to earn the martyr's crown. St. Stephen's feast day is celebrated on December 26th.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:10 AM (mD/uy)

29 Currently on a re-read of the Harry Potter series.

Posted by: Vic at December 26, 2021 09:10 AM (mpXpK)

30 #24 yes!!!! FJB!!!

Posted by: Qmark at December 26, 2021 09:10 AM (emnp2)

31 Good morning, fellow book freaks.

Forget dem pants -- what's with the "anti-racism" coal bucket helmets?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at December 26, 2021 09:10 AM (Dc2NZ)

32 And have, Christmas eve atused book store got Enemy at the Gate: The Battle for Stalingrad by William Craig

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The movie was based upon a very few paragraphs in that 450 page book. As is common with eastern front book, it is filled with sadness and terror. See also Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:11 AM (FVME7)

33 I find going directly to "comments" stops that...

Posted by: Qmark at December 26, 2021 09:11 AM (emnp2)

34 he was accused of blasphemy and stoned to death by an angry mob.

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The more things change . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:12 AM (FVME7)

35 I read I Will Bear Witness, Vol. II, 1942-1945: A Diary of the Nazi Years by Victor Klemperer. I am very grateful that Klemperer survived the war (he passed in 1960), that he decided to write a diary, and that it survived and was published.


It's hard to imagine living day after day, year after year, in constant fear; of seeing your relatives and friends being sent to the camps from which no one returned.


With the current political situation, these books had a profound effect on me. Fascism is on the rise in America, and make no mistake about it, there are many in the current administration and in the MSM who would love to see a similar fate as Klemperer's endured by the un-jabbed or those who voted for Trump. An eye-opening two volumes.

Posted by: Zoltan at December 26, 2021 09:12 AM (3c0fl)

36 That final cartoon is frighteningly accurate. How did OM get a look in my house?

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:13 AM (7EjX1)

37 That does look quite a bit like Fred MacMurray, but I think FM had a longer sort of face. He looks a bit like the guy named Dennis who would host game shows in the '60s -- not Dennis Day, from Jack Benny, but another one. an't think of his last name.

MacMurray was unusual in that, as he said, he never had an acting lesson. He started off doing romantic comedies and musicals and graduated to bigger and tougher roles, like his co-murderer in Double Indemnity w/ Barbara Stanwyck. After he appeared in The Apartment, a woman in a store upbraided him for appearing in such a "racy" (for 1960) movie, complaining that she brought her children to see it and it turned out to be about adultery. MacMurray said he determined at that point never to play a scoundrel again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:13 AM (c6xtn)

38 36 That final cartoon is frighteningly accurate. How did OM get a look in my house?
Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:13 AM (7EjX1)

You, too?

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 09:14 AM (ONvIw)

39
Thanks for the Christmas card you sent me, Violet.
Posted by: Charlie B at December 26, 2021 09:09 AM (7bRMQ)

So that is where that one went. I meant to send it to Charlette, must have really mangled the address.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 09:14 AM (QR5m0)

40 "This book is largely concerned with Hobbits, and from its pages a reader may discover much of their character and a little of their history."

Reading these words feels like coming home as I begin my 56th annual reading of the LOTR. I've been enjoying the new Andy Sirkis narration of the books. But nothing beats opening my 'ancient' hardcover editions, sipping good coffee or tea, lighting a pipeful of my favorite tobacco, and settling in my recliner to renew the old friendship.

Ahhh! Life is good for a Tolkien nerd.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:15 AM (7EjX1)

41 Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:03 AM (mD/uy)

Browning's Guns is the perfect Moron Book

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:15 AM (hOUT3)

42 Morning all, this day after Christmas. I'm working on rewriting a novel that I've been piddling with for a decade. It will be done in the first quarter of 2022. How many of you find that you are reading fewer books because of how much you read online?

Posted by: IanDeal at December 26, 2021 09:15 AM (guEBA)

43 This doesn't have much to do with books. Though he wrote several books influential in their own way.

Here's Rush's Christmas Farewell. 2 weeks or so later he was gone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YAL0JAJIYs

It's just nice to hear someone crossing that final finish line with gratitude in their soul.

Race well run, my friend.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 26, 2021 09:16 AM (5NkmN)

44 Dennis James? He did TPIR for awhile in the 70's.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 26, 2021 09:16 AM (vuisn)

45 I'm glad they're still playing baroque and medieval Christmas music at my local classical station.

Hey, maybe you should have had this on yesterday morning during prime unwrapping and feasting time instead of Shostakovich's "Baba Yar".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at December 26, 2021 09:16 AM (Dc2NZ)

46 I'm reading Irwin Shaw's 1948 epic novel The Young Lions. It focuses on 3 major male characters: a German noncom who is not a Nazi, a New Yorker who works in the theatre world (not an actor, though he is married to an actress when the novel begins in 193, and a young Jewish man who marries his love, a New England girl. So far all three have been in the army, the two Americans meeting. It's only the spring of 1944 at present.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:17 AM (c6xtn)

47 Fred McMurray-who was quite a versatile actor-who could play the cheating boss in "The Apartment" as well as the father in "My Three Sons" in addition to many other roles.

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He was a scumbag in The Caine Mutiny and a murderer in Double Indemnity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:18 AM (FVME7)

48 How many of you find that you are reading fewer books because of how much you read online?
Posted by: IanDeal at December 26, 2021 09:15 AM (guEBA)
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That's one reason why I started reading goals (at least one book per week). I keep track of all my reading in a spreadsheet to ensure that I am meeting those goals.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:18 AM (K5n5d)

49 Reading these words feels like coming home as I begin my 56th annual reading of the LOTR. I've been enjoying the new Andy Sirkis narration of the books. But nothing beats opening my 'ancient' hardcover editions, sipping good coffee or tea, lighting a pipeful of my favorite tobacco, and settling in my recliner to renew the old friendship.

Ahhh! Life is good for a Tolkien nerd.
Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021


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Lemme guess. Capstan Blue tobacco?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:18 AM (c6xtn)

50
g'mornin', book-ish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 26, 2021 09:19 AM (DUIap)

51 How many of you find that you are reading fewer books because of how much you read online?
Posted by: IanDeal

Oh without a doubt. I have a small stack of to-be-read books that I hardly ever touch.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:19 AM (mD/uy)

52 Dennis James? He did TPIR for awhile in the 70's.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 26, 2021


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That's who I was thinking of! All I could remember was that the guy had 2 first names.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:19 AM (c6xtn)

53 And St. Stephen is mentioned in the carol, "Good King Wenceslas" who was Duke In Bohemia-now the Czech Republic. He was a Christian, and was very kind to the poor. I believe he was elevated to Sainthood after his murder in 935:

https://tinyurl.com/5n6vvu6k

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2021 09:20 AM (KBCaU)

54 "According to artist C.C. Beck, the model he used for the original Captain Marvel's face was actor Fred MacMurray."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 26, 2021 09:20 AM (vuisn)

55 Except for the 100 Days of Dante, which continues to be a pleasure, this has been a week of re-reading. I splurged on a used hardcover edition of "Flint", one of my favorite Louis L'Amour books. I've worn out two paperback versions so this was an investment. (Or so I tell myself.)

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:20 AM (7EjX1)

56 Hello, Horde! I hope you all had a great Christmas celebration!

(Seems a shame that nothing but Christmas is "merry" anymore. It's such a happy word.)

I didn't have time or inclination this past week to start a novel, but I did crack open "Barnum!", a graphic novel that I've had for some time. P.T.'s circus performers are recruited by the Secret Service to thwart a plot by Tesla and tycoons to conquer the western U.S. I've finished just the first chapter, but I'll bet at least one of the recruits becomes a turncoat.

Then for my Christmas night book, I got "What If?", by the creator of the webcomic xkcd. I used to read the strip until I read of the creator's political leanings. The book applies science to questions such as "How far would a steak have to fall to land fully cooked?" The answer seems to be: That would be impossible.

I hope you enjoy your books!

Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 09:20 AM (Om/di)

57 I'd like to remind certain Commentators that, when it comes to breaking the Book Thread's requirement of wearing pants, that just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 09:21 AM (a3Q+t)

58 I'm reading Irwin Shaw's 1948 epic novel The Young Lions. It focuses on 3 major male characters: a German noncom who is not a Nazi, a New Yorker who works in the theatre world (not an actor, though he is married to an actress when the novel begins in 193, and a young Jewish man who marries his love, a New England girl. So far all three have been in the army, the two Americans meeting. It's only the spring of 1944 at present.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I thought that was a great book. The movie really castrated that powerful novel. Movie trivia: John Banner, Hogan's Heroes' Sgt. Schultz, plays an evil Nazi mayor.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:21 AM (FVME7)

59 Oh without a doubt. I have a small stack of to-be-read books that I hardly ever touch.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:19 AM (mD/uy)


I pretty much stopped buying books...

because I could no longer afford to buy bookcases!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:21 AM (hOUT3)

60 Here's Rush's Christmas Farewell. 2 weeks or so later he was gone:

Had not heard that before. Tears.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 09:21 AM (cTCuP)

61 I appreciated the sweep of history covered in The Admirals: Nimitz, Halsey, Leahy, and King—the Five-Star Admirals Who Won the War at Sea by Walter R. Borneman. It blows my mind how startlingly quickly our Navy developed from the "You May Fire When Ready, Gridley era.

Didn't know Nimitz was behind the push to use diesel engines. He was later offered a very well-paying job at a diesel company, and we are very lucky he decided to stay in the Navy.

Borneman is kind of an FDR fanboy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM (Dc2NZ)

62 I'd like to remind certain Commentators that, when it comes to breaking the Book Thread's requirement of wearing pants, that just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 09:21 AM (a3Q+t)


Ah, Mr Grinch, is that you?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM (hOUT3)

63 The book thread is earlier today than usual, which is why I am able to participate in it. Yay! Prayers for Mr. And Mrs Muse.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM (KBCaU)

64 BBL with a story about reading to kids at Christmas photos. Off to Mass.

Posted by: sal at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM (bJKUl)

65 Finished For Whom the Bell Tolls and my reaction was mixed. First of all everything seemed as chaotic as Orwell's book communicated with competing factions meddling for their own reasons. Second the protagonist, Robert Jordan, was a Hawkeye Pierce level sanctimonious do gooding douche. I was hoping his squeeze would claw his eyes out for calling her "Rabbit" but she was too passive to do that. But all the rest of the characters were well portrayed and the book was a good illustration of no matter how well you think you've planned things, random things will fall apart. And everyone had competing agendas.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM (y7DUB)

66 nd that's probably why we associated the traditional Christmas celebrations with them.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (5NkmN)
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I think there's a lot of Germanic influence on the modern Christmas traditions as well.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021


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The Yule log, "O Tannenbaum," "Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht," and so forth.

There is a neat little alternate-history short story, "Weihnachtsabend," by Kenneth Roberts. It's one of the "If the Nazis had won WWII" genre, but is more subtle than most. The title is German for "Christmas Eve."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM (c6xtn)

67 Good morning, book thread denizens. Santa brought me several things to add to my "to be read" pile. "Theistic Evolution," a book on the evolution / intelligent design debate, clocks in at 1000 pages. In second place is a 750 page history of the French Foreign Legion. From there, it goes down to more quickly read books like Doug Wilson's "Rules for Reformers" and Glenn Sunshine's "Slaying Leviathan," both of which probably moved me up a spot or two on my NSA watchlist (hi, Bob!).
I finally finished Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom." I guess it was beneficial in that it helped to place my depressing observations about the rise of totalitarianism in America into a historical context.

Posted by: PabloD at December 26, 2021 09:23 AM (U1beQ)

68 57 I'd like to remind certain Commentators that, when it comes to breaking the Book Thread's requirement of wearing pants, that just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 09:21 AM (a3Q+t)

I'm actually wearing pants for a change!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at December 26, 2021 09:23 AM (Dc2NZ)

69 Miss Big Tits

Posted by: Richard Burton at December 26, 2021 09:23 AM (rDgjh)

70 I thought that was a great book. The movie really castrated that powerful novel. Movie trivia: John Banner, Hogan's Heroes' Sgt. Schultz, plays an evil Nazi mayor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:21 AM (FVME7)

Nothing I would enjoy as I get too big a daily dose of WWII already. I am sick of WWII fan fiction.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 09:24 AM (ONvIw)

71 (Seems a shame that nothing but Christmas is "merry" anymore. It's such a happy word.)
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"Merry Halloween" just doesn't have the same ring to it...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:26 AM (K5n5d)

72 I thought that was a great book. The movie really castrated that powerful novel. Movie trivia: John Banner, Hogan's Heroes' Sgt. Schultz, plays an evil Nazi mayor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021


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Well, trying to compress a novel that covers ca. 10 years and a big chunk of Europe and America into 2 hours is an impossible task. It would probably have been better served as a TV miniseries a la Rich Man, Poor Man (also by Shaw).

I glanced at the IMDb cast list. Marlon Brando (in 195 as the German soldier, Dean Martin as the show-biz fellow, and Montgomery Clift as the young Jewish guy, with Hope Lange as his wife. Not bad, though not my images of these characters.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:26 AM (c6xtn)

73 First of all everything seemed as chaotic...
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM (y7DUB)

Totally agree. The best part of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" was making the acquaintance of John Donne.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 09:26 AM (cTCuP)

74 a Hawkeye Pierce level sanctimonious do gooding douche.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM


Blame Alan Alda for that. That certainly wasn't Hawkeye in the original MASH books.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 09:26 AM (a3Q+t)

75 I second JTB's recommendation of Louis L'Amour's Flint - my favorite of his Western novels and a good entry point to his writing.

Thanks OM for the signal boost for Fenton Wood's Yankee Republic Omnibus and for the big Terror House Sale.

Posted by: Hans Schantz at December 26, 2021 09:26 AM (+leAG)

76 Seems a shame that nothing but Christmas is "merry" anymore. It's such a happy word.)
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"Merry Halloween" just doesn't have the same ring to it...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:26 AM (K5n5d)


But, Merry Groundhog's Day is right on target.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 26, 2021 09:27 AM (5NkmN)

77 About Void to Universe by C.T. Ransbury it's a explanation how to fit creationism into Science, it's a interesting concept though I never believed the world was made in 6 days literally, yet everything in Genis is correct. My thinking is those 6 days are in God's days not earth days.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 09:28 AM (2JoB8)

78 13 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:06 AM (K5n5d)

Sounds just like the Tv version of that book. What a dreadful adaptation.

Posted by: Vic at December 26, 2021 09:29 AM (mpXpK)

79 a Hawkeye Pierce level sanctimonious do gooding douche.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 09:22 AM

Blame Alan Alda for that. That certainly wasn't Hawkeye in the original MASH books.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 09:26 AM (a3Q+t)


Or the movie...

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 09:29 AM (y7DUB)

80 I have come across two definitions of "merry."

One is "mighty and brave", as in "God rest ye, merry gentlemen."
The other is "eat and drink", be festive.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 26, 2021 09:30 AM (rDgjh)

81 My husband read the entire Wheel of Time series and he's watched the Amazon offering. He was irritated right from the start because characters referred to the Dragon Reborn as man or woman right from the start--has to be a man, according to the books. I think he continued watching it just to see how far it moved away from the books.

Posted by: Lirio100 at December 26, 2021 09:30 AM (uFOGo)

82 My thinking is those 6 days are in God's days not earth days.
Posted by: Skip

Maybe it's like two weeks to flatten the curve.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:31 AM (FVME7)

83 About Void to Universe by C.T. Ransbury it's a explanation how to fit creationism into Science, it's a interesting concept though I never believed the world was made in 6 days literally, yet everything in Genis is correct. My thinking is those 6 days are in God's days not earth days.
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 09:28 AM (2JoB
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It's possible that "six days for creation" was simply God revealing the process using terms that the human mind at that time could comprehend. It's useful metaphorical language that shows the overall process without bogging the mind down in the details.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:32 AM (K5n5d)

84 Happy Boxing Day to my fellow 'rons and 'rettes!

My reading this week has been two books I downloaded from gutenberg.org: "The Hawaiian Archipelago" and "A Lady's Life in the Rocky Mountains", both by Isabella Bird. She was one of those intrepid Victorian Englishwomen who trotted around the globe, seeking to improve their health and wrote books about their travels. In Bird's case, she visited Hawaii and Colorado on the same trip, in 1873-74. Unlike many travelers, she was willing to "rough it", riding (straddle-style) hundreds of miles over extremely difficult conditions to visit out-of-the-way picturesque sites. She was also a trained naturalist, so her descriptions of scenery and of flora and fauna are both beautiful and informative. She comes across as someone I would very much like to have met: feisty, funny, appreciative of the peoples and places she visits, and, above all, *not* a kvetch! For me, the book on Hawaii was particularly interesting, since I've visited the Big Island and have seen many of the places she describes. If you like travelogues, or traveling in the company of an interesting woman, the work of Isabella Bird are well worth your time.

Posted by: Nemo at December 26, 2021 09:32 AM (S6ArX)

85 I'm actually wearing pants for a change!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes

Boooooo !

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 09:32 AM (arJlL)

86 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 09:32 AM (arJlL)

87 I am reading Agatha Christie's Miss Marple. I have read all the Poirot but had never read Marple. She is delightful but its Agatha so I expected it. I also read "Stolen Tongues" by Fleix Blackwell. It was a creepypasta story that he fleshed out and has now been picked up for a movie. Creepy story, some good scares probably not for everyone.

Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 09:32 AM (sfWd9)

88 I've been reading JRR Tolkien's "Letters From Father Christmas". These were a series of 'letters' he wrote and illustrated to his little children starting in 1920. They are obviously Christmas related but are charming any time of year. The letters discuss Santa's dealings with the Polar Bear, elves, gnomes, the man in the moon, and all their (mis) adventures. The sheer creativity of his writing, so appropriate for children and entertaining for adults, and his watercolor drawings, including the 'stamps' on the envelopes, is amazing. It is impossible to overstate how enjoyable the book is.

We have a grand nephew who turns three next month. I plan to get a copy for his parents to read to and share with him. I believe they will all be delighted with it.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (7EjX1)

89 Finished For Whom the Bell Tolls and my reaction was mixed. First of all everything seemed as chaotic as Orwell's book communicated with competing factions meddling for their own reasons. Second the protagonist, Robert Jordan, was a Hawkeye Pierce level sanctimonious do gooding douche. I was hoping his squeeze would claw his eyes out for calling her "Rabbit" but she was too passive to do that. . . .
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021


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FWtBT is a hammock book: high at the start, low in the middle, and high again at the climax and ending. All the people around Jordan keep talking about blowing the bridge (when they are not saying stuff like "In the milk of thy fathers"), which is the low part. When they actually get around to the job of blowing the bridge, though, things pick up enormously. (The film with Gary Cooper is very much the same.)

"Rabbit" I took to be an endearment -- "conejo" in Spanish, I think -- reflecting Maria's adorable qualities.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (c6xtn)

90 Fred MacMurray is also said to be the model for the superhero the Gentleman in Kurt Busiek's Astro City comics series.

I read in FM's obituary that he invested in land and wound up owning a good chunk of greater L.A.

Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (Om/di)

91 The just-published "Landmark Xenophon's Anabasis" appeared under the Christmas tree, and I'm just beginning the long , but well-informed, stumble to the sea.

This is the sixth of the Landmark Ancient Histories. All of them are treats.

http://thelandmarkancienthistories.com/

Posted by: Brett at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (j7zpR)

92 because I could no longer afford to buy bookcases!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:21 AM


You might contact Ace Custom Shelving, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ace Media Empire, LLC, for a quote. My understanding is they are quite cost-efficient.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (a3Q+t)

93 I don't think the pants guy owns a weedwhacker.

(if you catch my drift)

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (arJlL)

94 Perfessor Squirrel yes that is what I have thought since I could understand it.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 09:34 AM (2JoB8)

95 Gotta go rustle up some grub.

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 09:34 AM (arJlL)

96 A publisher was interested in a book idea I had, so I busted to finish the manuscript only to get rejected and now I'm just bummed.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 26, 2021 09:34 AM (OeBYn)

97 82 My thinking is those 6 days are in God's days not earth days.
Posted by: Skip

Maybe it's like two weeks to flatten the curve.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:31 AM

Or two "periods of creative time". Would men of the time in question understood the concept of "millions of years"? Probably no more that they'd have understood the knowledge we take for granted, like pre-natal development. The Bible however, is used for cherry picking these days by many groups, and a Bronze age understanding works to justify some things and condemn others

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 09:34 AM (ONvIw)

98 Thanks to whoever recommended "Star of the Sea" by Joseph O'Connor, which tells the stories of passengers fleeing Ireland during the famine. You think you know them after the introductory chapters as "types" but the author goes deeper into their histories and weaves complex characters with rich prose.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at December 26, 2021 09:34 AM (Dc2NZ)

99 As a only 1 time accident seeing the pants but reading what everyone says about them every week for years no one ever wearing them owns a weed whacker

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 09:35 AM (2JoB8)

100 Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 09:32 AM (sfWd9

No matter which detective she uses, her knowledge of human nature never ceases to amaze.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 09:36 AM (ONvIw)

101 You might contact Ace Custom Shelving, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ace Media Empire, LLC, for a quote. My understanding is they are quite cost-efficient.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (a3Q+t)
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They break down quickly for easy reassembly! So versatile.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at December 26, 2021 09:36 AM (Dc2NZ)

102 I have quite a few of Alison Weir's books, both fiction and nonfiction. They are always well written and (from what I can tell) well researched.

I'm currently reading Mackay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. It's...relevant. The chapter about alchemy was pretty interesting, especially a particular alchemist who claimed to be over a thousand years old and who, Mackay says, had such a fertile imagination and so much knowledge of history that he could glibly answer any questions put to him about various events and personalities in the past. He wasn't even the only one - there was another alchemist who did something similar and even pulled his servant into it, turning to the fellow to ask a question about a past event, whereupon the servant replied without missing a beat that he couldn't say since he had worked for the alchemist for only 500 years. There were quite a few other similar nuggets that could turn into fascinating stories.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 26, 2021 09:37 AM (8548M)

103 It's possible that "six days for creation" was simply God revealing the process using terms that the human mind at that time could comprehend. It's useful metaphorical language that shows the overall process without bogging the mind down in the details.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

That's what I think, too, and it helps to remember (not to go full Bette Midler) that the original audience were illiterate shepherds.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:37 AM (FVME7)

104 Finished the next to last book in the third volume of Proust, The Fugitive and it was a bit confusing at the end with tedious blah blah about different families that were hard to tell apart. I read in the notes that parts of it were left incomplete and others had to cobble it together to make sense out of it. The first time I read it I found the final book, Time Regained, much more rewarding.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 09:38 AM (y7DUB)

105 49 ... "Lemme guess. Capstan Blue tobacco?"

Actually, it's some Stokkebye pressed Virginia flake. I haven't tried Capstan for years and had forgotten the Tolkien connection.

Thanks for the reminder. Time to place an order.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:40 AM (7EjX1)

106 "much of the left is just bad performance art"

I received a copy of the book "Frank Zappa's Negative Dialectics Of Poodle Play" for Christmas. That quote is one of the themes.

It was not written by Zappa, but is about Zappa and written so as to attempt to conflate Adorno with Zappa in an amusing manner. Yeah. I've been wanting to read this book for about 30 years but as it's written by a Marxist I kind of put it off.

I'm not far enough in to render an opinion yet but will in the future. So far it's amusing and infuriating.

Posted by: f'd at December 26, 2021 09:40 AM (Tnijr)

107 Merry Christmas! Sorry I'm late, I just went to the least-attended Sunday Mass I've yet seen. Huh, day after Christmas, go figure.

Santa brought me zero books, but he did give me a badly needed bookcase. For years I've tried to hold the line, but when doing research, I have to get actual books for repeated reference.

I've written about 10,000 words in Something Something Dragon, and I'm moving a parallel tracks, fleshing out the historical outline whilst I do a deep dive in to ancient Chinese culture. I took a break from Ssu-ma Ch'ien and am racing through the Analects of Confucius. That was one strange dude.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 09:43 AM (llXky)

108 @83 --

simply God revealing the process using terms that the human mind at that time could comprehend.

There are many passages in the Bible that I think fit that category. One that sticks in my mind is Jesus ascending in a "fiery chariot." I interpret that as being akin to a transporter beam. The writers used Terms with which they were familiar.

Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 09:43 AM (Om/di)

109 I am also reading Wheel of Time. I just finished the fourth. My husband watched the entire Amazon show in what appears to have been an effort to incense himself, like Nynaeve must do in order to channel. I'll make that comparison next time he mentions it. (If I mention it myself, I'll have to listen to another rant about it.)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 26, 2021 09:44 AM (8548M)

110 Also this week, I was looking at end of the year book reviews, and you would think only women, poc, and LGBTQ persons were writing books. Hardly anyone reviewed a book by a white male. It must be tough to be a white male author these days. I read to be entertained or informed. I never buy a book because the author fits into one of the privileged classes.

Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 09:44 AM (sfWd9)

111 Romance, fighting, alt-Regency backdrop, sounds like a novel with something for everybody. And best of all, the Kindle edition is only $2.99.
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Thanks for the plug!

While it's fun to do genre crossovers, that one landed with a serious thud, which is a shame, because it was fun to write.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 09:44 AM (llXky)

112 Hale and hearty too. I imagine.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 26, 2021 09:47 AM (UHVv4)

113 I am also reading Wheel of Time. I just finished the fourth. My husband watched the entire Amazon show in what appears to have been an effort to incense himself, like Nynaeve must do in order to channel. I'll make that comparison next time he mentions it. (If I mention it myself, I'll have to listen to another rant about it.)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 26, 2021 09:44 AM (8548M)
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It just boggles the mind how people like Rian Johnson Rafe Judkins go out of their way to spit on the fans of the source material because they feel "The Message" is far more important (to them). That's one reason why adaptations of material are so infuriating these days.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:47 AM (K5n5d)

114 I finished off two books this week, one was Pioneering in Oregon's Coast Range, surviving the depressin years by Ione Reed,
Ione was helping her divorced mother run a boarding house in Eugene, and one of her tenants was a very shy mill worker named Ike Reed. She married him in 1927. Very soon after that Ike's dad bought an abandoned farm far back in the Oregon Coast range, that was accessible only from Florence.
Ike's father, Bert, ran the farm with his son's help, and Ione ran the house with the help of her mother in law, and Ike's large family who would come to visit or live because there was no work in town, rehabilitating the original house, reclearing the fields and building barns for the stock, eventually building a new house for the couple and their two toddlers.
To make extra money, Ike trapped furs, worked for the CCC and was a firewatch on Roman Nose mountain for the forest service. She talks about floods, and work and walks and fun and not having money.

Eventually Ione and Ike bought another farm and raised flower bulbs for nurseries and did very well, that is all in book two, To a Daffodil; Life on an Oregon Flower Farm 1937 - 1974 which is in my to buy list

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2021 09:47 AM (ZMraq)

115 Thanks for the plug!
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That's what Don Lemon said!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 26, 2021 09:47 AM (UHVv4)

116 surviving the depressin years by Ione Reed,
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So it's about Chinese forced to work in a laundry in the Old West?? Cool!

Just joshin' you.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 26, 2021 09:49 AM (UHVv4)

117 Our parish is Star of the Sea.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 26, 2021 09:49 AM (EZebt)

118 Happy Boxing Day, Grey Box People! Hope you all had a good Christmas.

Still hacking my way through Chernow's Grant, and loving it. Got three books for Christmas - Walsh's Last Stands, Dockery's Navy SEALs The Early Years (from a friend who is fascinated by my service time), and "Are You Smart Enough To Be A Secret Agent?" gag gift by my wife.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 26, 2021 09:50 AM (APPN8)

119 11 I like the book tree. The first picture looks like Fred McMurray-who was quite a versatile actor-who could play the cheating boss in "The Apartment" as well as the father in "My Three Sons" in addition to many other roles"

He was an effective villain precisely because he came across as the guy next door. His best role was in Double Indemnity,IMO.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 26, 2021 09:50 AM (HabA/)

120 Santa did not bring me any books, nor did I give any as gifts, since I have bought quite a few books for Wee Jamie, the Grandchild. The Teeny Publishing Bidness projects require much of my attention these days ...
I am re-reading some of Charles Todd's mysteries, which I do like ... but absolutely refuse to pay $10 for any of the newer issues of the Bess Crawford and Ispecter Rutledge mysteries in Kindle versions.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 26, 2021 09:50 AM (xnmPy)

121 Of course watch MyThree Sons as a kid, but Fred is in one of my favorite movies as the villan The Cain Mutiny which is even better as a book

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 09:51 AM (2JoB8)

122 77 About Void to Universe by C.T. Ransbury it's a explanation how to fit creationism into Science, it's a interesting concept though I never believed the world was made in 6 days literally, yet everything in Genis is correct. My thinking is those 6 days are in God's days not earth days.
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 09:28 AM (2JoB

Even Augustine noted that the word used for "day" could mean an unspecified period of time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 09:51 AM (evAgx)

123 Covid status at Casa de Muse:

1. Mrs. Muse (who tested positive for Covid on Wednesday) slept for most of the day yesterday.

2. She'll probably sleep a lot today, too.

3. Me, I don't feel too bad, but not 100%, either. I haven't tested for 'Rona, but what I have feels like a low-grade flu. I may lay back down later on.

4. I have a cough that comes and goes. Currently, it is gone.

5. We're taking C,D, zinc, quercetin.

5. Hope you all received nice books for Christmas.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at December 26, 2021 09:51 AM (Lnjxc)

124 (when they are not saying stuff like "In the milk of thy fathers"), which is the low part

I didn't understand why Hemingway had them all saying stilted things like "thou" because they're all speaking a Spanish dialect, no?

I thought the final scenes were well set up with short chapters concentrating on individual characters before everything came together. Reading it was a positive experience but I think I've had enough Hemingway for this lifetime.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 09:53 AM (y7DUB)

125 My sis cooked 8 pounds of tenderloin yesterday - and it came out a perfect medium rare. We have no leftovers! I was looking forward to roast beef sandwiches for at least a few days, but that lovely meat was hoovered up.

And last night, sis and I watched 3 episodes of "The Chosen" I finally got her to watch a "Jesus series" and she's hooked now. The whole thing is so well done and cleverly written.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 26, 2021 09:54 AM (HabA/)

126 One of the most amazing things I've noticed about books is that they can be printed and bound almost instantly. I ordered a few books just a few days ago. One was delivered 1 day after it was printed/bound. I ordered it on December 21, it was printed on December 22 (according to the last page of the book), and it was delivered on December 23. Pretty amazing!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2021 09:54 AM (K5n5d)

127 59 ... "I pretty much stopped buying books...

because I could no longer afford to buy bookcases!"

That's why God gave us cardboard boxes that can be stacked all over the place. (Mrs. JTB wishes I didn't believe that.)

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:54 AM (7EjX1)

128 Fred McMurray is probably the greatest acting talent Hollywood has ever seen. He play everything from lovable and sensible to greedy and grasping. "The Caine Mutiny" realy stands out, I think even more than "Double Indemnity."

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 09:55 AM (2WFAJ)

129 Desmond Tutu has died at age 90; and also Karolos Papoulias a former Greek President at 92. Is Jimmy Carter next??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 26, 2021 09:55 AM (UHVv4)

130 "Rabbit" I took to be an endearment -- "conejo" in Spanish, I think -- reflecting Maria's adorable qualities.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (c6xtn)
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Their pillow talk was serious cringe - which is why the middle was so painful.

I've said it before, but Robert Jordan was based on an actual American volunteer, Robert Hale Merriman, who commanded the Lincoln Battalion. Merriman was one of the few American leaders with actual presence - he was tall, handsome and athletic. Also a Communist bastard, but he stands in marked contrast to the losers that gravitated to the cause and weaseled their way into leadership positions.

I've said that modern Antifa is a bunch of punks compared to the Internationals, who were hard men willing to sleep on the ground, eat stale biscuits, cold coffee and fight with broken rifles.

But there was the same type of opportunistic failures who used the Brigades to gain power they would never have gotten elsewhere and abused it whenever they could.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 09:55 AM (llXky)

131 Jokes about Ace aside, it's important to hydrate if you have the 'rona.

Posted by: davidt at December 26, 2021 09:56 AM (gjH3l)

132 OM, prayers up for a quick recovery.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 09:56 AM (2WFAJ)

133 "Lemme guess. Capstan Blue tobacco?"

Actually, it's some Stokkebye pressed Virginia flake. I haven't tried Capstan for years and had forgotten the Tolkien connection.

Thanks for the reminder. Time to place an order.
Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021


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I've never tried it. My closet has enough tobacco for a while, but I have a local tobacconist, and maybe if he has a sale . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:56 AM (c6xtn)

134 Fred MacMurray...the common man's Jimmy Stewart.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 09:59 AM (cTCuP)

135 Been reading "Company Aytch" by Sam Watkins. It's a memoir of the private's time in the war between the states. It was heavily quoted in the Ken Burns series, and quite good.

Posted by: SARDiver at December 26, 2021 09:59 AM (Cmxw7)

136 So sorry to read you're not feeling well, OM. Get well soon! It really sucks to be sick during the holidays.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 26, 2021 09:59 AM (HabA/)

137 Heart breaking news from the gal I picked up hours for at work so she could go up to NY for Christmas. 14 Year old granddaughter got up yesterday morning and said she didn't feel good. An hour later she was having trouble breathing so rushed to hospital. Neg. Covid and Flu. She passed from heart attack. I am without words. A perfectly healthy 14 year old. Autopsy tomorrow so we should know more soon. Prayers for a beautiful family, beyond devastated.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:00 AM (cRbt7)

138 you would think only women, poc, and LGBTQ persons were writing books.

Well, those are the only ones on TV these days too.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko gender fluid at December 26, 2021 10:00 AM (91064)

139 Hopefully, life will be back to normal next week so I won't have to skimp on the content.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 08:58 AM


I hope everyone is well soon, but I would hardly call the content skimpy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 10:00 AM (qxz9B)

140 Stellastwocents

Prayers up !

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 10:01 AM (arJlL)

141 110 Also this week, I was looking at end of the year book reviews, and you would think only women, poc, and LGBTQ persons were writing books. Hardly anyone reviewed a book by a white male. It must be tough to be a white male author these days. I read to be entertained or informed. I never buy a book because the author fits into one of the privileged classes.
Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 09:44 AM (sfWd9)

Explaining the amusing case of Carmen Mola, a new female novelist who won a million Euro's for winning the 2021 Premio Planeta literary prize. She was presented as a mother of three and a university professor who wrote violent, grim books in her free time.

The european literary world was scandalized when they learned that "Carmen Mola" was just a persona created by 3 male writers who realized that was the way to success. They even gave detailed online interviews to journalists as "Carmen Mola" - I'm sure they had a great time doing it!

https://tinyurl.com/2xb9c8h6

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 10:01 AM (evAgx)

142 BTW, I'm assuming everyone here knows about my book on the Spanish Civil War, but if you want more detail on the American volunteers, you're go-to source is Cecil Eby's Comrades and Commissars, an unflinching look at the whole sordid enterprise.

Eby wrote an earlier book called Between the Bullet and the Lie in 1969, which attacked the mythology of the Abraham Lincoln battalion and over the years had so many veterans (American and Spanish) come to him that he did a re-write based on new evidence.

Very readable, very useful in terms of seeing how propaganda became embedded as history. To this day, most people think Americans fighting for the Spanish Republic were noble idealists - something perpetuated by Rick Blaine in "Casablanca" having fought in Spain "on the loyalist side."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:01 AM (llXky)

143 Stella
Thats horrible. Prayers for her family.

Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 10:01 AM (sfWd9)

144 I just started reading, "Stalingrad" by Antony Beever. Looks to be interesing, as it appears Mr. Beever interviewed actual participants.

Also, my preliminary take is the book is also going to be stomack churning.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 10:02 AM (2WFAJ)

145 Thank God someone is protecting the little guy!

https://bit.ly/3Ew5km1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 10:02 AM (FVME7)

146 The european literary world was scandalized when they learned that "Carmen Mola" was just a persona created by 3 male writers who realized that was the way to success. They even gave detailed online interviews to journalists as "Carmen Mola" - I'm sure they had a great time doing it!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 10:01 AM (evAgx)
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Emilio Mola was one of Franco's generals. I wonder if they chose that name on purpose.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:03 AM (llXky)

147 I recall as a youth hearing a fundamentalist church sermon in which the pastor, addressing "the wisdom of this world is foolishness," declared:

"They tell us the world was made in 3 billion years. We know that's not so."

I don't think so.

I believe that come Judgment Day, the Lord will look at us and declare that we wanted so much time and energy arguing over piddly matters of doctrine. Does sprinkling qualify as baptism? I don't think he cares!

Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 10:03 AM (Om/di)

148 Story I have told long ago here, and maybe Rice, C.T.Ransbury was the driver and car owner of a Austin Mini that on a trip to see fortifications on the England coast lost a wheel doing about 60mph, he was white knuckle panic until it got stopped, 2 of us ( me included) thought it was a funny riot even when we were still moving.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 10:03 AM (2JoB8)

149 The movie was based upon a very few paragraphs in that 450 page book. As is common with eastern front book, it is filled with sadness and terror. See also Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 09:11 AM (FVME7)
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I've read Enemy at the Gates twice. Never got through Bloodlands. Too depressing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:05 AM (llXky)

150 Got AI 2041 as a gift. Supposed to be short story, then comment/explanation of the wonders of Artificial Intelligence. Only read first entry, seems too heavy on the lesson - no beauty...Doubt I will finish.

Posted by: Marylander at December 26, 2021 10:05 AM (tQXNT)

151 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:06 AM (Zz0t1)

152 Whoever created those 'these pants' things should learn that stupid AND ugly is no way to go through life. How pathetic.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 10:06 AM (7EjX1)

153 Happy day after Christmas morning book thread.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:06 AM (Zz0t1)

154 Print....is dead.

Posted by: Egon Spengler at December 26, 2021 10:06 AM (Zz0t1)

155 148 twice not "rice'

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 10:07 AM (2JoB8)

156 I just started reading, "Stalingrad" by Antony Beever. Looks to be interesing, as it appears Mr. Beever interviewed actual participants.

Also, my preliminary take is the book is also going to be stomack churning.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 10:02 AM (2WFAJ)
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Read with skepticism. Beevor's book on the Spanish Civil War was hot garbage. Not confident in his scholarship or accuracy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:07 AM (llXky)

157 Thank God someone is protecting the little guy!

https://bit.ly/3Ew5km1
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 10:02 AM (FVME7)



Vancouver station soon to hemorrhage listeners by the bucketload.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:08 AM (Zz0t1)

158 (when they are not saying stuff like "In the milk of thy fathers"), which is the low part
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I didn't understand why Hemingway had them all saying stilted things like "thou" because they're all speaking a Spanish dialect, no? . . .
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021


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Exactly. Spanish still has a familiar form of "you," "tu," which corresponds to the "thee" and "thou" English has lost. ("Usted" is the formal form.) "Tu" is supposed to be used only with very good friends or intimates. Hemingway used the archaic "thee" and "thou" to indicate that Robert and Maria were speaking in Spanish on very intimate terms.

People think that "thee" and "thou" are for only formal settings, but the reverse is true. When you are speaking to God, your God, there's nothing more personal and intimate. Thus we have "Thou art" and "I pray to Thee."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:09 AM (c6xtn)

159 I've read Enemy at the Gates twice. Never got through Bloodlands. Too depressing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:05 AM (llXky)


Maybe this a negative quality of mine but I found Bloodlands to be a page turner and finished it quickly.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 10:09 AM (y7DUB)

160 twice not "rice'
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 10:07 AM (2JoB8 )



But, if you wanna be a Monk, you gotta cook a lotta rice.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:11 AM (Zz0t1)

161 Maybe this a negative quality of mine but I found Bloodlands to be a page turner and finished it quickly.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt

Just like From Here to Eternity, right ?

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 10:11 AM (arJlL)

162 twice not "rice'
Posted by: Skip

Twice- a-roni ?

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 10:12 AM (arJlL)

163 Speaking of Beevor, I'm pleased that my one-star review of The Battle for Spain is the most helpful review on Amazon.

That book was so bad, I couldn't even hate-read it.

Don't get me started about his Guernica crap.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:12 AM (llXky)

164 Fred MacMurray...the common man's Jimmy Stewart.
Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021


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Maybe the more cosmopolitan Jimmy Stewart. MacMurray usually played guys in the big city (aside from Westerns, which he also did well). JS really gave the "common man," Midwesterner touch to his roles.

Though Jimmy could play a villain, and did in one of his early roles in the Thirties. I won't tell you which one, as it would spoil the surprise. And in his 1950s Westerns, he was one tough dangerous guy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:13 AM (c6xtn)

165 Thank God someone is protecting the little guy!

https://bit.ly/3Ew5km1
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 10:02 AM (FVME7)


How are they going to know?

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 10:13 AM (qxz9B)

166 I saw Stomack Churning open for Flay of Soul at The Curtain Club in '94.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:13 AM (Zz0t1)

167 Read with skepticism. Beevor's book on the Spanish Civil War was hot garbage. Not confident in his scholarship or accuracy.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:07 AM (llXky)
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Thanks for the heads-up. I will do so. I've got other sources I've read so to compare it with. Won't be the first hot garbage I've read over the past year.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 10:14 AM (2WFAJ)

168 Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:00 AM (cRbt7)

That's awful! Prayers for her and her family.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 26, 2021 10:15 AM (HabA/)

169 twice not "rice'
Posted by: Skip

Twice- a-roni ?
Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 10:12 AM (arJlL)

Once-a-Roni is enough.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2021 10:15 AM (4I/2K)

170 Twice- a-roni ?
Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 10:12 AM (arJlL)


Twice pilaf?

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 10:15 AM (qxz9B)

171 oh, by the way, it snowed here in Western Oregon. We have three inches so far: it is a white Boxing day.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2021 10:15 AM (ZMraq)

172 @13 Perfessor Squirrel: thanks for watching so i don't have to.

Posted by: yara at December 26, 2021 10:16 AM (hBsVD)

173
Twice- a-roni ?
Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021


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The San Francisco Freak!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:16 AM (c6xtn)

174 People think that "thee" and "thou" are for only formal settings, but the reverse is true. When you are speaking to God, your God, there's nothing more personal and intimate. Thus we have "Thou art" and "I pray to Thee."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:09 AM (c6xtn)
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Yep. I had some folks who didn't believe me so I pulled up the Lord's Prayer in German and it's right there, the familiar tense.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:16 AM (llXky)

175 Off to grab life by the short hairs. I'll check in later.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes at December 26, 2021 10:16 AM (Dc2NZ)

176 Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:00 AM (cRbt7)

This hurts to read. Have we opened Pandora's box?

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:16 AM (cTCuP)

177 I second the caution about Beevor. His Ardennes has some factual errors. Not sure if laziness on him or his researchers. Glad others noticed as well.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 26, 2021 10:18 AM (APPN8)

178 174 People think that "thee" and "thou" are for only formal settings, but the reverse is true. When you are speaking to God, your God, there's nothing more personal and intimate. Thus we have "Thou art" and "I pray to Thee."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:09 AM (c6xtn)

"Abba" means Daddy in Aramaic.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 26, 2021 10:18 AM (PiwSw)

179 OT: I need to nip out to get some more canned food for Chekov. His Rx food never showed from Chewy (sent via Federal Express, the shipment vanished somewhere), and I got my money back. But nobody seems to have restocked it. He's doing well on Purrfect Bistro brand chicken, but I have to find it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:18 AM (c6xtn)

180
Though Jimmy could play a villain, and did in one of his early roles in the Thirties. I won't tell you which one, as it would spoil the surprise. And in his 1950s Westerns, he was one tough dangerous guy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:13 AM (c6xtn)
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I assume you are referring to Brig. Gen. James Stewart (ret)?

Yeah, after the war, the guy has some serious presence. I think just before he retired from the Air Force Reserve he 'hopped a flight" on an Arc Light B-52 raid just to see what all the fuss was about.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:19 AM (llXky)

181 I didn't understand why Hemingway had them all saying stilted things like "thou" because they're all speaking a Spanish dialect, no?

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My guess is it is to simulate the formal versus familiar forms of "you" often present in romance languages but no longer used in English. "Thee" and "thou" are obsolete English equivalents.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 10:19 AM (FVME7)

182 @21 Matt as Odin? I'll have to think about that one.

Posted by: yara at December 26, 2021 10:19 AM (hBsVD)

183 oh, by the way, it snowed here in Western Oregon. We have three inches so far: it is a white Boxing day.
Posted by: Kindltot

Jerry Quarry says "POW !)

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 10:21 AM (arJlL)

184 Yep. I had some folks who didn't believe me so I pulled up the Lord's Prayer in German and it's right there, the familiar tense.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021


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In one of my fantasy stories, I told the reader that the language the characters were speaking had a familiar/intimate case, and showed them saying "Thou art," etc. I had to do the research as above to realize that it would work that way, and to make sure I used "thou" as the subject and "thee" as the object of the verb, not the other way around.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:21 AM (c6xtn)

185 This hurts to read. Have we opened Pandora's box?

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:16 AM (cTCuP)
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My first thought was myocarditis brought about by the vaccine. I then paused to pray, and that is now my second thought as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:22 AM (llXky)

186 In one of my fantasy stories, I told the reader that the language the characters were speaking had a familiar/intimate case, and showed them saying "Thou art," etc. I had to do the research as above to realize that it would work that way, and to make sure I used "thou" as the subject and "thee" as the object of the verb, not the other way around.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:21 AM (c6xtn)
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Joseph Smith clearly did not go through this painstaking process, which is why the Book of Mormon is such a mess.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:23 AM (llXky)

187
Fred MacMurray had two great villain roles, Walter Neff in Double Indemnity and Tom Keefer in The Caine Mutiny.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:24 AM (/U27+)

188 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:18 AM (c6xtn)

Wolfus do they have prescription dry food you can soak in water or broth?

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 10:24 AM (qxz9B)

189 Though Jimmy could play a villain, and did in one of his early roles in the Thirties. I won't tell you which one, as it would spoil the surprise. And in his 1950s Westerns, he was one tough dangerous guy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021
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I assume you are referring to Brig. Gen. James Stewart (ret)?

Yeah, after the war, the guy has some serious presence. . . .
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021


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True. His war experiences changed him, as they would anyone. He could still play characters like Elwood P. Dowd and George Bailey to perfection -- but in Westerns like The Naked Spur he really showed a dark edge.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:24 AM (c6xtn)

190 Probably just me, but what I'm seeing in the top pic is a dad who, if he's not killing hookers on the side, he's at least keeping them gainfully employed, and a mom with a pill habit so bad, she's taken to blowing the paperboy, just for nickels.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2021 10:24 AM (GI7BU)

191 Although I didn't get any books for Christmas I gave my wife Where You'll Find Me: Risk, Decisions and the Last Climb of Kate Matrosova" by Ty Gagne about a woman killed by a sudden storm in the Presidential range in New Hampshire (someone here may have mentioned it). We took a vacation three years ago in Vermont and New Hampshire during September including going to Mount Washington. I remember being skeptical standing at the base about how cold it could be of something not very high compared to the Rockies. Mother fuck it was freezing up there! I had read an account of the death and cobbled together rescue team of volunteers in some journal I usually steer clear of like The New Yorker and it held my interest the whole way. On Mt Washington we talked with a ranger who was on duty that night and he had a couple spooky stories about odd things that happened that night.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 10:26 AM (y7DUB)

192
"The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Montserrat is now an e-book. Among the best novels of the Battle of the Atlantic.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:26 AM (/U27+)

193 "Rabbit" I took to be an endearment -- "conejo" in Spanish, I think -- reflecting Maria's adorable qualities.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (c6xtn)


unless it is a slang version of Coño

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2021 10:26 AM (ZMraq)

194 Wolfus do they have prescription dry food you can soak in water or broth?
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021


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He's got his Royal Canin Rx dry food, plenty of it. And he'll eat it if there is no canned. I could try soaking the dry pellets in some water or gravy, as I have to sprinkle his gabapentin pill into wet food, not onto dry.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:26 AM (c6xtn)

195 Weren't you a little hard on the Beevor last night, Ward??

Posted by: june cleaver at December 26, 2021 10:26 AM (UHVv4)

196 Has Pandora's Box been opened or is this the second Holocaust.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:27 AM (cRbt7)

197 As for Liz, having first learned of her when she was a fat old has-been, with the voice of a Perkins waitress, it was impossible for me to go back to when she was young and think of her as hot.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2021 10:27 AM (GI7BU)

198 "Rabbit" I took to be an endearment -- "conejo" in Spanish, I think -- reflecting Maria's adorable qualities.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021
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unless it is a slang version of Co?o
Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2021


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All I got there (?) was the black diamond. I can make a guess, though. Hemingway would not have been above sliding a slang term across in disguise, the way Hammett did "gunsel" earlier.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:28 AM (c6xtn)

199 Fred MacMurray had two great villain roles, Walter Neff in Double Indemnity and Tom Keefer in The Caine Mutiny.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021


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He was a pretty despicable guy in The Apartment, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:29 AM (c6xtn)

200 Has Pandora's Box been opened or is this the second Holocaust.
Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:27 AM (cRbt7)
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Yes.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 10:30 AM (2WFAJ)

201 He was a pretty despicable guy in The Apartment, too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:29 AM (c6xtn)

Yeah. Slimy, philandering, ladder-climbing, mid-level executive, that was MacMurray in "The Apartment". You hated him from the get-go. That's good acting.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:32 AM (cTCuP)

202 Stella, do we know if she was jabbed? It seems impossible to lose someone that young, but evil is here now and people don't see it yet.

Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 10:32 AM (sfWd9)

203 As for Liz, having first learned of her when she was a fat old has-been, with the voice of a Perkins waitress, it was impossible for me to go back to when she was young and think of her as hot.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2021


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Joan Rivers said of the elder Liz that "She is a woman being kept alive by a machine -- a refrigerator!"

But she was indeed hot when she was young. See OM's pic above, and her roles in Suddenly, Last Summer and Giant.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:33 AM (c6xtn)

204
Slimy, philandering, ladder-climbing, mid-level executive

________

So many redundancies...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:33 AM (/U27+)

205 He was a pretty despicable guy in The Apartment, too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:29 AM (c6xtn)

Yeah. Slimy, philandering, ladder-climbing, mid-level executive, that was MacMurray in "The Apartment". You hated him from the get-go. That's good acting.
Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021


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The amazing thing to us today is that his Mr. Sheldrake was the department head for Personnel. Imagine a white male as head of HR today. Ain't gonna happen, at least not very often.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:35 AM (c6xtn)

206 But she was indeed hot when she was young. See OM's pic above, and her roles in Suddenly, Last Summer and Giant.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:33 AM (c6xtn)
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Side-boob in Cleopatra.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:35 AM (llXky)

207 202 Stella, do we know if she was jabbed? It seems impossible to lose someone that young, but evil is here now and people don't see it yet.

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She was vaccinated as mandated by NY to attend school. When, I don't know.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:35 AM (cRbt7)

208 Twice- a-roni ?
Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021

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The San Francisco Freak!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:16 AM (c6xtn)


Heh. I grew up in the SF Bay Area and I had no idea what a "San Francisco treat" was supposed to be.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at December 26, 2021 10:36 AM (Lnjxc)

209 My cousin suffered a heart attack of a type normally reserved for gals of child bearing years. I'm pretty sure she was jabbed before her heart attack, too, as she's a vaxx believer. I know my cousin was jabbed, just not sure when. But, signs point to before HA, not after HA.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 10:36 AM (2WFAJ)

210 Prayers for a beautiful family, beyond devastated.
Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:00 AM (cRbt7)

Horrible. So sorry.

200 Has Pandora's Box been opened or is this the second Holocaust.
Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:27 AM (cRbt7)
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Yes in a twisted way, it is and we have. Because the frail ill cannot die, and nobody must ever catch cold again!!

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:36 AM (ONvIw)

211 Vasily Grossman and the Soviet Century by Alexandra Popoff is a far better better book about Grossman than Anthony Beevor's A Writer at War. So there are alternatives to Beevor.

Vasily Grossman was at Stalingrad and interviewed a great many front line soldiers and officers and turned those stories and experiences into two novels - Stalingrad (for a just cause) and Life and Fate - translated by Robert Chandler. Grossman was the first journalist to see, and write about, Treblinka. His essay was used to help convict criminals at the Nuremberg trials.

Posted by: 13times at December 26, 2021 10:37 AM (lFHus)

212
The amazing thing to us today is that his Mr. Sheldrake was the department head for Personnel.

__________

Personnel used to be run by hard-bitten guys from the shop floor investigating patterns of Friday-Monday absenteeism. Now it's HR run by Woke bits of fluff.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:37 AM (/U27+)

213 Well, time to wander. Church, then head home to our new state, AZ. Woot!

Later.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 10:37 AM (2WFAJ)

214
Heh. I grew up in the SF Bay Area and I had no idea what a "San Francisco treat" was supposed to be.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at December 26, 2021 10:36 AM (Lnjxc)



Good. You were a child and didn't need to know.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

215 I've seen every movie Taylor ever made...most of them multiple times. I couldn't tell you a thing about any of them because I never could tear myself from looking at her face long enough to absorb a plot.

I will admit "Virginal Wolfe" changed that.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:39 AM (cTCuP)

216 Joan Rivers said of the elder Liz that "She is a woman being kept alive by a machine -- a refrigerator!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:33 AM (c6xtn)
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I miss insult comics. Don Rickles was great. I think he's still alive, but he's got to pushing 100.

The thing was, they were clever, not just Woke garbage and they always punched up (unless you were a heckler).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:39 AM (llXky)

217 Yay book thread!!!

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 26, 2021 10:39 AM (FcPY7)

218 Heh. I grew up in the SF Bay Area and I had no idea what a "San Francisco treat" was supposed to be.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional

Well, whatever ya do, don't go back and ask about it now.

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 10:40 AM (arJlL)

219 Greetings:

My greatest success this year reading-wise was an acquisition suggestion I made to our local library apparatus (home of apparatchiks aplenty). But it did not happen without a bit of my guile.

The suggested tome was Pekka Hamalainen's "The Comanche Empire", his first book. Our library had his second book "Lakota America" which I carefully choreographed for reading during national American Indian month. Having finished that, I dropped the request on their digital desks and they, not having seen my pants, went for it.

As to the second book, I really enjoyed it. The author did much to undermine the helpless Indian and sacred lands concepts. They were pretty smooth operators diplomacy and "foreign policy" wise but were condemned by their warrior-centric culture and lack of analog technologies to pushing and getting pushed around geographically a good bit before the Europeans began arriving.

There was only minimal progressive troth plighting in the body of the book. The author saved it for the end (Dom Deloise RIP) in one of those "Epilogues" that history writers seem to feel themselves entitled to these days.

Merries and Happies to alls

Posted by: 11B40 at December 26, 2021 10:40 AM (uuklp)

220 My cousin suffered a heart attack of a type normally reserved for gals of child bearing years. I'm pretty sure she was jabbed before her heart attack, too, as she's a vaxx believer. I know my cousin was jabbed, just not sure when. But, signs point to before HA, not after HA.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker formerly of CA at December 26, 2021 10:36 AM (2WFAJ)



Three Euro futbol'ers died from heart attacks in 5 days. All were vaxed. Coincidence? In the immortal words of Kevin McCallister, "I don't think so."

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

221 Reading back issues of Nat. Geo. 2008...except for the photos, the articles aren't much different than Reader's Digest.

Posted by: BignJames at December 26, 2021 10:40 AM (AwYPR)

222
Don Rickles was great. I think he's still alive, but he's got to pushing 100.

__________

Died in 2017.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:41 AM (/U27+)

223 I received my copy of Understood Betsey, by Dorothy Canfield Fisher.. a kid's book. The author is being vigorously cancelled for a crime she did not commit...interest in eugenics. Sanger, however, was a proponent but is NOT being cancelled. So this must be about something else. Perhaps she advocated self-sufficiency or something unpardonable?

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:41 AM (ONvIw)

224 This is a review I never thought I'd write. I have read the entire Gabriel Allon series by Daniel Silva and just about everything ever published by Ken Follett.

Never again. By either one. They are banned from my library and all the old titles removed and trashed.

First: Follett ... here's a writer who has often written mystery/thriller and political novels. In "Sentinel" he displays his absolute ignorance of weapons, military, and even disrespect for his audience.

In less that 50 pages he has a female Colonel in command of an embassy guard detachment lead her troops into action against a terrorist encampment. Then has same female Colonel and a female CIA agent journey from embassy to 'observe' terrorist activity get involved in firefight wherein CIA agent kills terrorist at some unknown distance with a semi-automatic pistol after first selecting single fire so that it won't shoot all it's ammo in a few seconds.

Female Colonel ... combat command ... embassy troops (Yes, Marines, but not Spec. Ops.) ... leaving embassy to conduct raid... select single fire on semi-automatic pistol.

Credibility? Destroyed. In less than 50 pages. Crap!!!

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at December 26, 2021 10:41 AM (RS9ZG)

225 Vasily Grossman was at Stalingrad and interviewed a great many front line soldiers and officers and turned those stories and experiences into two novels - Stalingrad (for a just cause) and Life and Fate - translated by Robert Chandler. Grossman was the first journalist to see, and write about, Treblinka. His essay was used to help convict criminals at the Nuremberg trials.
Posted by: 13times at December 26, 2021 10:37 AM (lFHus)


Has anyone here read Grossman's two books? They're both huge and I don't know how well translated they are.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 10:41 AM (y7DUB)

226 Miss Muse ( hope i guessed the right sex, but it doesn't matter. Look what Ben Franklin had done. ) i want to thank you Ace and The Fight Club for making me a better writer if you can believe that.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 26, 2021 10:42 AM (l8eK7)

227 hen has same female Colonel and a female CIA agent journey from embassy to 'observe' terrorist activity get involved in firefight wherein CIA agent kills terrorist at some unknown distance with a semi-automatic pistol after first selecting single fire so that it won't shoot all it's ammo in a few seconds.


This is the "NCIS: Los Angeles" technique. They're CONSTANTLY putting their AR's away and pulling out their pistols when they can't hit shit in a firefight and miraculously kill every muthafucka in the room.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:43 AM (Zz0t1)

228 She was vaccinated as mandated by NY to attend school. When, I don't know.
Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:35 AM (cRbt7)


Oh lord.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (qxz9B)

229 145 Thank God someone is protecting the little guy!

https://bit.ly/3Ew5km1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 26, 2021 10:02 AM (FVME7)


Headlines next week: Vancouver radio station goes out of business due to having no listeners. The station equipment was sold for scrap to recoup some of the losses and the employees were consigned to slavery in the salt mines.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (Lnjxc)

230 I got NatGeo from time I was a young teenager until a few years ago ( 4 maybe) when I said enough of the Leftist Global Warming in every article, even on dinosaurs.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (2JoB8)

231 "193...There's an entire genre of romance where the woman has to choose between the Rich Mr. Big and the handsome, penniless guy.

That this is even a choice speaks volumes."

Wasn't Ted Bundy a handsome, penniless guy?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (P3gRi)

232 Miss Muse ( hope i guessed the right sex, but it doesn't matter. Look what Ben Franklin had done. ) i want to thank you Ace and The Fight Club for making me a better writer if you can believe that.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 26, 2021 10:42 AM (l8eK7)



You guessed......

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (Zz0t1)

233 Stop with these lies. The SCIENCE!!!! Says the vax is 100000% safe.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (SF9uI)

234 Merry Christmas, OM, Horde!

Posted by: callsign claymore at December 26, 2021 10:45 AM (rQ3Sg)

235 I just returned from picking up a grocery order and passed by two urgent care offices. Both had long masked lines and I immediately thought " stupid tests". All were young people.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:45 AM (ONvIw)

236 I've seen every movie Taylor ever made...most of them multiple times. I couldn't tell you a thing about any of them because I never could tear myself from looking at her face long enough to absorb a plot.

I will admit "Virginal Wolfe" changed that.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:39 AM (cTCuP)
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LOL on the typo. "Reflections in a Golden Eye" was creepy as hell. I think they used a still photo from it to be the "younger Kurz" for "Apocalypse Now."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:47 AM (llXky)

237 OT: 2 Petsmart stores within a reasonable (well, sorta) drive from me say on their websites they have Chekov's Rx wet food. They don't open until 10. I should wait and call to make sure. But if they do, I could hit both and stock up on his food.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:47 AM (c6xtn)

238 Stop with these lies. The SCIENCE!!!! Says the vax is 100000% safe.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (SF9uI)



It's ok. Trump says they've saved hundreds of millions of lives.

Candace Owens Reconciles President Trump Vaccine Position by Saying "He's Old" and "Doesn't Use the Internet"...

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:47 AM (Zz0t1)

239 I just returned from picking up a grocery order and passed by two urgent care offices. Both had long masked lines and I immediately thought " stupid tests". All were young people.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:45 AM (ONvIw)



Dipshit millennials are having children now.....Dumb gets dumber.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:48 AM (Zz0t1)

240 I have purged my kindle library recently as well. I like good books by day and cozy mysteries to fall asleep to.
They are light reading and not so interesting that you can't put it down. Unfortunately, many of the authors has incorporated their leftist BS with no discernable relevance to the plot line.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:48 AM (cRbt7)

241 Zomg the last ep of WOT - what a disaster!

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 26, 2021 10:48 AM (FcPY7)

242 "193...There's an entire genre of romance where the woman has to choose between the Rich Mr. Big and the handsome, penniless guy.

That this is even a choice speaks volumes."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (P3gRi)

This suggests that handsome men can't accomplish anything but looking in the mirror, unless penniless really means "not rich".

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:48 AM (ONvIw)

243 OT: 2 Petsmart stores within a reasonable (well, sorta) drive from me say on their websites they have Chekov's Rx wet food. They don't open until 10. I should wait and call to make sure. But if they do, I could hit both and stock up on his food.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:47 AM (c6xtn)


You'll probably have to have a copy of the prescription; just a heads up.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 10:49 AM (qxz9B)

244 She was vaccinated as mandated by NY to attend school. When, I don't know.
Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:35 AM (cRbt7)

Oh lord.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (qxz9B)

People seriously need to swing, with some deserving a tire fire.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 10:49 AM (VwHCD)

245 Trump wants adoration for creating the vax. It is who he is, for better or worse. And will never say anything negative about it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:49 AM (SF9uI)

246 I got NatGeo from time I was a young teenager until a few years ago ( 4 maybe) when I said enough of the Leftist Global Warming in every article, even on dinosaurs.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (2JoB

Gave up on them for "gun control"...mid 90s? These were being tossed from local library.

Posted by: BignJames at December 26, 2021 10:49 AM (AwYPR)

247
People seriously need to swing, with some deserving a tire fire.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 10:49 AM (VwHCD)



Crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:50 AM (Zz0t1)

248
Who are all these people jamming emergency rooms? Hypochondriacs? Omicron is just a bad cold. Viruses naturally mutate to more widespread but less dangerous forms.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:50 AM (/U27+)

249 I will admit "Virginal Wolfe" changed that.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:39 AM (cTCuP)
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LOL on the typo.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:47 AM (llXky)

Oh, dear dog.

Time out for a refresher course in typing.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:51 AM (cTCuP)

250 Lurking Cynic, the only Ken Follett novel I recommend to people is Eye of the Needle, his first big seller. It's a textbook example of how to make a reader keep on reading about a central character who is the villain of the story, even though -- in the last analysis, amazingly -- the reader knows how the story will come out.

I don't recall any of his others except Night Over Water, a pre-WWII thriller about the flight of a passenger flying boat over the Atlantic -- and I mainly recall that because of the superb title.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:51 AM (c6xtn)

251 Whaaaa? GloBULL warming killed the dinosaurs? Damn my SUV is one bad motherfucker. It can go back in time 65 million years and cause havoc.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:51 AM (SF9uI)

252 This suggests that handsome men can't accomplish anything but looking in the mirror, unless penniless really means "not rich".

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:48 AM (ONvIw)
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That was part of a discussion that wealth is often more important to women than physical appearance.

Some objected strongly, and I was merely pointing out that if that was so, why do so many stories (in books, film, etc) have the plot hinge on whether a woman chooses the penniless but handsome guy over the rich, but less attractive one?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:52 AM (llXky)

253
You'll probably have to have a copy of the prescription; just a heads up.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021


***
Got it in my pocket, Jordan; thanks for the reminder.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 10:52 AM (c6xtn)

254 242 "193...There's an entire genre of romance where the woman has to choose between the Rich Mr. Big and the handsome, penniless guy.

That this is even a choice speaks volumes."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 10:44 AM (P3gRi)

This suggests that handsome men can't accomplish anything but looking in the mirror, unless penniless really means "not rich".
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:48 AM (ONvIw)

So why don't the heroine's do what any guy in that situation would do? Marry Rich Mrs. Big, and hire beautiful, penniless love to be his "cleaning lady"??? Might even be able to swing an upstairs room for her, if Mrs. Big is rich enough.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 10:52 AM (trdmm)

255
Time out for a refresher course in typing.
Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:51 AM (cTCuP)

_______

Liz was a virgin once. Like Jonah was a conservative.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:52 AM (/U27+)

256 Next: Silva. His books have always involved politics - especially Israel, United Kingdom and America. His point of view of America has always slanted slightly left. That point of view, however, has been in the background and rarely a driving plot factor. No so in his latest "The Cellist",

He has written an anti-trump, anti-conservative polemic -then compounded that with an 'Author's Note' afterward that screams not merely 'woke' but all ahead flank speed radical progressive.

He is a good enough writer that I stayed with him until chapters 60-64. Here he gives full vent to his anti-trump progressive agenda through his plot and characters.

I read book for entertainment - not political lectures.

Scroom.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at December 26, 2021 10:53 AM (RS9ZG)

257 President Trump - The 'Vaccines' Almost Killed My Son, They Are Not Safe or Effective


https://is.gd/3vSSiZ

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:53 AM (Zz0t1)

258 People think they're going to turn into Tthe walking dead if they catch covid. They have been scared brainless and don't know what to do. Thats why this scamdemic will never end.

Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 10:53 AM (sfWd9)

259 Well Sponge.....i know what sex you are. And I'm alreadying avoiding it.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (l8eK7)

260 I'm pretty late as usual, but i've been reading "Everything you believe is wrong" by William M Briggs.

I vary between thinking it's the book on logic (that i should've read when i was young) and a list of all the ways public discourse and conversation can go wrong. He assigns amusing titles to all of the "fallacies" (some of which he recognizes aren't logical fallacies) much in the way of "The Official Rules" (Paul Dickson, I think) and "The Secrets of Consulting" (Gerry Weinberg"). Written in a somewhat snarky style that is amusing.

Posted by: yara at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (hBsVD)

261 A 4 with $10M net worth > a 9 with $0 net worth for most women. Just walk down the street looking at couples if you doubt it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (SF9uI)

262 248
Who are all these people jamming emergency rooms? Hypochondriacs? Omicron is just a bad cold. Viruses naturally mutate to more widespread but less dangerous forms.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:50 AM (/U27+)

I suspect a lot of these young people just want the days off that a positive test can give them.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (ONvIw)

263 Trump wants adoration for creating the vax. It is who he is, for better or worse. And will never say anything negative about it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:49 AM (SF9uI)
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None if this will matter two months from now. We'll be on yet another crisis, which is why I find all political discussions crushingly boring.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:55 AM (llXky)

264 *spoiler*

The penniless handsome guy is really the billionaire mystery owner of the hot new industry. She just assumed he was the lowly hired help.

Posted by: Hallmark Movies at December 26, 2021 10:55 AM (4I/2K)

265 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 10:52 AM (trdmm)


LOL!! Write that book Tom!!!

Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:55 AM (cRbt7)

266 I suspect a lot of these young people just want the days off that a positive test can give them.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (ONvIw)


Oh I hadn't thought of that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 10:56 AM (qxz9B)

267 Well Sponge.....i know what sex you are. And I'm alreadying avoiding it.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (l8eK7)



Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:56 AM (Zz0t1)

268 Some objected strongly, and I was merely pointing out that if that was so, why do so many stories (in books, film, etc) have the plot hinge on whether a woman chooses the penniless but handsome guy over the rich, but less attractive one?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:52 AM (llXky)

I don't object at all. Why would a woman dump a hard working successful man for a cutie patootie non-provider.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:57 AM (ONvIw)

269
I suspect a lot of these young people just want the days off that a positive test can give them.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (ONvIw)

_________

I suppose. Cold: two days off. Coof: two weeks off.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:57 AM (/U27+)

270 I suspect a lot of these young people just want the days off that a positive test can give them.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (ONvIw)


There's also the case where you aren't vaxxed and MUST have a negative test EVERY WEEK if you want to go into your office.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)

271 A 4 with $10M net worth > a 9 with $0 net worth for most women. Just walk down the street looking at couples if you doubt it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (SF9uI)
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As I said last week, they've done double-blind tests with groups of men and women where they show them a photo of a potential date and they get a quick rating on them.

Using the exact same photos, they showed them to three different groups. One group just got the person's image. One got the image with their job and another got their income.

Among men, there was almost ZERO variance, because hot is hot. With women, there was tremendous variance.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (llXky)

272 The penniless handsome guy is really the billionaire mystery owner of the hot new industry. She just assumed he was the lowly hired help.
Posted by: Hallmark Movies at December 26, 2021 10:55 AM (4I/2K)

LOL. People should choose based on "nice" and "compatible".

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (ONvIw)

273
Why would a woman dump a hard working successful man for a cutie patootie non-provider.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:57 AM (ONvIw)

__________

Women want Harley McRockdrummer to bang them all night and Eddie Engineer to drive them home in the morning.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (/U27+)

274 "the "thee" and "thou" English has lost"

And "you" once meant, not just the 2nd person plural, but was used when addressing individuals as a mark of respect, as still pertains in Russian and French, for examples.

When the use of "you," was extended to include the second person singular, a situation was created in which one was sometimes uncertain whether singular or plural was meant. Hence the proliferation of substandard 2nd person plural locutions as "yous,"
"you'uns," "yins," and "y'all."

Add to that the almost universal use of the general, non-specific "you," as in "you only live once," we have one ambiguous pronoun. The fog lifts a little if one substitutes "one" in such contexts. Unfortunately, that usage is seen as snobby or haughty in the age of "our democracy."

As a footnote, other Southerners might disagree with me on this, but "y'all" always means plural. We may say it to an individual, but when we do, we mean that individual plus the group we associate with him, whether family, or business associates or schoolmates. Before you quote Lewis Grizzard at me, I read that column too, and was flabbergasted he got it so wrong.

Posted by: Brett at December 26, 2021 11:00 AM (j7zpR)

275 Sorry guys - the Follett book is "Never" not "The Sentinel" which is a Lee Child book. Don't know I got them confuzzled.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at December 26, 2021 11:00 AM (RS9ZG)

276
The penniless handsome guy is really the billionaire mystery owner of the hot new industry. She just assumed he was the lowly hired help.

Posted by: Hallmark Movies at December 26, 2021 10:55 AM (4I/2K)
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Add a dungeon and you get 50 Shades of Gray.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:00 AM (llXky)

277 There's also the case where you aren't vaxxed and MUST have a negative test EVERY WEEK if you want to go into your office.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)

The people I know who do that have standing CVS appointments, not lining up at the urgent care.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:01 AM (ONvIw)

278 So why don't the heroine's do what any guy in that situation would do? Marry Rich Mrs. Big, and hire beautiful, penniless love to be his "cleaning lady"??? Might even be able to swing an upstairs room for her, if Mrs. Big is rich enough.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 10:52 AM (trdmm)


I read this as "swing in an upstairs room" and immediately had images of Clyde with the female orangutan in the hotel room with the chandelier.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

279 There's also the case where you aren't vaxxed and MUST have a negative test EVERY WEEK if you want to go into your office.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)


So stupid.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:01 AM (qxz9B)

280 Gee Sponge...i say strange shit all the time. If i sent you a Christmas card, it would have an Adam's Family favor to it with 57 times less Satanist content.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 26, 2021 11:01 AM (l8eK7)

281 Women want Harley McRockdrummer to bang them all night and Eddie Engineer to drive them home in the morning.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (/U27+)
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Jonah Goldberg and David French just hang out in the shed until the noise stops.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:01 AM (llXky)

282
Women want Harley McRockdrummer to bang them all night and Eddie Engineer to drive them home in the morning.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (/U27+)

A lot of women seek a handsome prom date on some level.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

283 Whaaaa? GloBULL warming killed the dinosaurs? Damn my SUV is one bad motherfucker. It can go back in time 65 million years and cause havoc.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:51 AM (SF9uI)

Funny shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:02 AM (VwHCD)

284 The closer PetSmart has Chekov's chow. Off I go. Enjoy your Sunday, all!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 26, 2021 11:02 AM (c6xtn)

285 May all of you be blessed.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 26, 2021 11:02 AM (CWMF2)

286 __________

Women want Harley McRockdrummer to bang them all night and Eddie Engineer to drive them home in the morning.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (/U27+)



Wasn't that a Billy Crystal standup line? She dates Vinny for 3 years, but marries Irving because he's a "good provider."

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

287 Women want Harley McRockdrummer to bang them all night and Eddie Engineer to drive them home in the morning.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (/U27+)

I'm not saying shit. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:03 AM (VwHCD)

288 Not a bad Christmas haul. The Disappearing Spoon (recommended here), Escaping the Delta: Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues (recommended somewhere else), and Wisconsin Death Trip which was a must read when I was in College in the mid-seventies and I can't wait to read it as an old man.

Posted by: who knew at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (4I7VG)

289 I have been oblivious to the works of Terry Pratchett for many years, until the TV Special "Good Omens". Loved the series, so I read the book. Loved the book, and stumbled upon "Snuff". I loved the book, and quickly realized it was a series called Discworld. A dismayingly HUGE series of 41 books. My local used bookstore had not a single book by him, indicating to me that these are books people don't let go of easily. The local library was equally not helpful. Alibris has them, but now I'm wondering if I need to clean out my currently overflowing bookshelves to make room for them.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (0tmoY)

290 285 May all of you be blessed.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 26, 2021 11:02 AM (CWMF2)

You, too, Dr Crane.

Posted by: Sockmund Freud at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (ONvIw)

291 One factor driving the hysteria is that most people know, or at least suspect, that the 'rona is a ccp bio-weapon, which is politically incorrect to speak of.

Posted by: davidt at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (gjH3l)

292 As a footnote, other Southerners might disagree with me on this, but "y'all" always means plural. We may say it to an individual, but when we do, we mean that individual plus the group we associate with him, whether family, or business associates or schoolmates. Before you quote Lewis Grizzard at me, I read that column too, and was flabbergasted he got it so wrong.
Posted by: Brett at December 26, 2021 11:00 AM (j7zpR)


You, Sir, are a well informed and well spoken man.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (y7DUB)

293 Gee Sponge...i say strange shit all the time. If i sent you a Christmas card, it would have an Adam's Family favor to it with 57 times less Satanist content.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 26, 2021 11:01 AM (l8eK7)



I like it.

*no offense was intended in the content of this comment thread.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

294 oh, by the way, it snowed here in Western Oregon. We have three inches so far: it is a white Boxing day.
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. . . When the snow lay round about, deep and crisp and even . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (MIKMs)

295 Wolfus: Other Follett books include Key to Rebecca, Man from St. Petersburg, Pillars of the Earth, World without End, and a bunch of others.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (RS9ZG)

296 The girls want "Jake, the hired hand". He looks like The Rock, Hudson.

Posted by: klaftern at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM (taPSh)

297
So stupid.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:01 AM (qxz9B)



This is my situation. They'll pay for the test, but I need one from at least the day before I go in to any office.

I save the company money by only going to the datacenter and never going to a local office.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

298 co (n with a tilde over top) o. Pronounced conyo

It is a very popular, if very obscene, curse word in Spanish, and refers to women's genitalia. Conejo is a blunted version of it, depending where you are. Hemingway considered himself one of the lads and was not above showing off how much of a lad he was.

I am not a Hemingway fan

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2021 11:05 AM (ZMraq)

299 It's a type of wassail...

U.S. researchers identify 14 new shrew species on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 26, 2021 11:05 AM (UHVv4)

300 I did a lot of research on heart attacks after I had mine. Prior to the 1960s about 50% of all the people who had a heart attack died.

Posted by: Vic at December 26, 2021 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

301 I don't object at all. Why would a woman dump a hard working successful man for a cutie patootie non-provider.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:57 AM (ONvIw)

again, jumping back into old conversations where we've discussed this at length; it's a misconception to think women want wealth, what most women are programmed to crave is Status. Wealth is often shorthand for status, but this explains why rock stars and public performers are such chick magnets, no matter their personal qualities. Status.

Time to repost the Hot Crazy Matrix - men's section is good advice, women's explanation starts at the 6 minute mark. Lotta wisdom here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInk1rV2VEg

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 11:06 AM (trdmm)

302
As a footnote, other Southerners might disagree with me on this, but "y'all" always means plural. We may say it to an individual, but when we do, we mean that individual plus the group we associate with him, whether family, or business associates or schoolmates. Before you quote Lewis Grizzard at me, I read that column too, and was flabbergasted he got it so wrong.

Posted by: Brett at December 26, 2021 11:00 AM (j7zpR)
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In German, the formal second person pronoun is identical to the plural pronoun and it uses the same verb tense.

English being a Germanic language, we also switch to plural forms when using very formal language. The South has tended to retain this usage, hence the "y'all" being used in a singular and then "all y'all" being used as a formal plural.

Class distinctions have pretty much evaporated in much of the US, particularly in areas where you have multi-ethnic composition which forced a "wearing down" of older linguistic tendencies.

However, in many parts of the South, the language retained these archaic forms.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:06 AM (llXky)

303 We might watch a movie today, either Spiderman or Matrix4

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 26, 2021 11:08 AM (FcPY7)

304 We might watch a movie today, either Spiderman or Matrix4
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 26, 2021 11:08 AM (FcPY7)



What I've read, go with Spiderman. A lot less woke.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

305 Women want Harley McRockdrummer to bang them all night and Eddie Engineer to drive them home in the morning.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 10:59 AM (/U27+)

A lot of women seek a handsome prom date on some level.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

I blame the board game "Mystery Date".
https://youtu.be/SFqB8_t34oY

Posted by: Milton Bradley's "The Dud Date" at December 26, 2021 11:09 AM (4I/2K)

306 Hemingway was a poser. And no real man takes his own life.

Question: what is the difference between a Western and a Denver omelet.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 26, 2021 11:09 AM (CWMF2)

307
again, jumping back into old conversations where we've discussed this at length; it's a misconception to think women want wealth, what most women are programmed to crave is Status. Wealth is often shorthand for status, but this explains why rock stars and public performers are such chick magnets, no matter their personal qualities. Status.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 11:06 AM (trdmm)

Status is usually defined as "security". Stars are another matter and a whole different level. A handsome but penniless 30 something guy is probably lazy AF

Posted by: Sockmund Freud at December 26, 2021 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

308
A handsome but penniless 30 something guy is probably lazy AF
Posted by: Sockmund Freud at December 26, 2021 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

__________

But women think they can "reform" him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 11:11 AM (/U27+)

309 again, jumping back into old conversations where we've discussed this at length; it's a misconception to think women want wealth, what most women are programmed to crave is Status. Wealth is often shorthand for status, but this explains why rock stars and public performers are such chick magnets, no matter their personal qualities. Status.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 11:06 AM (trdmm)
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Also the "Bad Boy" thing, which is why murderers get love letters and scumbags without a penny to their name have 10 kids each by a different woman.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:11 AM (llXky)

310 I just finished reading "The Making of the Atomic Bomb" by Richard Rhodes. It is a long read and not particularly heavy on math and physics. Easily the most complete history of those involved with nuclear physics from 1900 on. Fascinating insights and very well researched. How scientists worked in those days was remarkable.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 11:12 AM (axyOa)

311 A perfectly healthy 14 year old. Autopsy tomorrow so we should know more soon. Prayers for a beautiful family, beyond devastated.
Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 26, 2021 10:00 AM (cRbt7)

Very sad, indeed. I wonder if the poor girl had been given the clot shot?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 11:12 AM (P3gRi)

312 Meanwhile at NYT, news you can use:

"Your Mom Is Destined to Annoy You"

Posted by: Merry Christmas From gp at December 26, 2021 11:13 AM (qpX6U)

313 AOP, stella said yes, requirement of NY schools.

Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2021 11:13 AM (qpolg)

314 again, jumping back into old conversations where we've discussed this at length; it's a misconception to think women want wealth, what most women are programmed to crave is Status. Wealth is often shorthand for status, but this explains why rock stars and public performers are such chick magnets, no matter their personal qualities. Status.


Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2021 11:06 AM (trdmm)

This. I lived it, seen it, warned other musicians about it. Its how it works, generally. Every once in a while I would end up in some band with a few imbeciles, and my exact words were along the lines of "don't get fucking wrapped up in the chicks hanging on your stage, because you do not know whose stage they will be hanging on tomorrow".

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:13 AM (VwHCD)

315 But women think they can "reform" him.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 11:11 AM (/U27+)


And we can't discount the fact that there are lots of women out there who LOVE drama.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:14 AM (qxz9B)

316
Status is usually defined as "security". Stars are another matter and a whole different level. A handsome but penniless 30 something guy is probably lazy AF

Posted by: Sockmund Freud at December 26, 2021 11:09 AM (ONvIw)
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The two overlap, but can be separate.

Lots of examples of impoverished nobility, dirt-broke military officers who nevertheless were socially distinguished.

The solution around the 1870s was to marry rich American debutantes to them - that way daddy got to say his grandson is a duke and the nobles got a needed infusion of cash.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:15 AM (llXky)

317
In my young, stupid and deprived days I had an LTR with a woman who was happy to let me do stuff for her while her heart really went out to some cool alcoholic. My own dumb fault.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 11:15 AM (/U27+)

318 I loved the book, and quickly realized it was a series called Discworld.
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Hogfather is an annual read for me (like JTB and Tolkien). My current recommendation for my 20-something acquaintances is 'Witches Abroad' for analysis of the power of The Narrative.

All of the books stand alone, so you don't have to worry about reading order. Enjoy.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 26, 2021 11:15 AM (MIKMs)

319 The Irish also pluralize YOU thus "yous guys, get over here" now part of New Yorkese.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 26, 2021 11:15 AM (UHVv4)

320 Some objected strongly, and I was merely pointing out that if that was so, why do so many stories (in books, film, etc) have the plot hinge on whether a woman chooses the penniless but handsome guy over the rich, but less attractive one?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 10:52 AM (llXky)


Time preference: do you want someone who is high status and rich now, or do you want someone who will be higher status and richer and be more active in raising your kids?

The prior can also be considered "gold digger" and in a way lower status because all she has is youth and looks.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2021 11:16 AM (ZMraq)

321 AOP, stella said yes, requirement of NY schools.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2021 11:13 AM (qpolg)



Well, you can't sue big pharma for their killer shot, but nothing says you can't sue the schools for attempted murder on the child.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

322 Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 11:04 AM

Thank you, Sir.

I find language both marvelous and treacherous.

Posted by: Brett at December 26, 2021 11:16 AM (j7zpR)

323 Vancouver station soon to hemorrhage listeners by the bucketload.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 10:08 AM (Zz0t1)

I wonder which station that is? Vancouver radio used to be very good, but went to shit along with radio pretty well everywhere else.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 11:17 AM (P3gRi)

324 And we can't discount the fact that there are lots of women out there who LOVE drama.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:14 AM (qxz9B)
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An amusing element of the cell phone era is the nicknames people use for each other. I just put the actual name on my phone (or a shorthand version) but I was amused to see that my middle daughter has her older sister saved on her phone as "Drama Queen."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:17 AM (llXky)

325 I got one small book from Sandy Claws called 'I Could Chew on This and Other Poems by Dogs'.

Posted by: JuJuBee at December 26, 2021 11:18 AM (mNhhD)

326 The girls want "Jake, the hired hand". He looks like The Rock, Hudson.
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Lady Chatterly syndrome.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 26, 2021 11:19 AM (MIKMs)

327 Just finished The Hobbit and LoTR. Been a while since I've read them and had forgotten what a delightful read they were. Took about a week. Just started I Shall Bear Witness. Looks to be pretty dense so it won't go as fast. Teed up, Operation Barbarossa and Making the Atomic Bomb. I'm going to have to find Enemy at the Gate.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2021 11:19 AM (VNmG1)

328 Who are all these people jamming emergency rooms? Hypochondriacs? Omicron is just a bad cold. Viruses naturally mutate to more widespread but less dangerous forms.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

The one time I went to the ER I felt like a complete fraud,
"Why are you here?"
*muttering* "My doctor sent me"

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 26, 2021 11:19 AM (FcPY7)

329 Hogfather was made into a movie (BBC?), it's available on the Tube. It's not too far off the book.

Posted by: Lirio100 at December 26, 2021 11:19 AM (uFOGo)

330
I wonder which station that is? Vancouver radio used to be very good, but went to shit along with radio pretty well everywhere else.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 11:17 AM (P3gRi)



I've got 20 gb of music on my phone, so it's INCREDIBLY rare I listen to the radio.

I got sick of hearing the same 35 songs over and over and over and over and over and over.....

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

331 Hogfather was made into a movie (BBC?), it's available on the Tube. It's not too far off the book.
Posted by: Lirio100 at December 26, 2021 11:19 AM (uFOGo)



Is Hogmartin aware of this?

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

332 I was amused to see that my middle daughter has her older sister saved on her phone as "Drama Queen."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:17 AM (llXky)


That's pretty funny. I should do that with my sister.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:20 AM (qxz9B)

333 Give a woman a picture of zbill Gates or Warren Buffet or Elon Musk before they were famous and most women would turn the picture face down on the table and walk away.

Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 11:21 AM (sfWd9)

334
91 The just-published "Landmark Xenophon's Anabasis" appeared under the Christmas tree, and I'm just beginning the long , but well-informed, stumble to the sea.

This is the sixth of the Landmark Ancient Histories. All of them are treats.

http://thelandmarkancienthistories.com/

Posted by: Brett at December 26, 2021 09:33 AM (j7zpR)


Thank you, Brett!

Posted by: sinmi at December 26, 2021 11:21 AM (A5IVt)

335 Time preference: do you want someone who is high status and rich now, or do you want someone who will be higher status and richer and be more active in raising your kids?

The prior can also be considered "gold digger" and in a way lower status because all she has is youth and looks.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2021 11:16 AM (ZMraq)
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Kind of a false premise - rich people back then didn't change diapers or spend lots of time with their kids. The nurse took care of that.

In the case I was citing, you could absolutely find a young and handsome but near-bankrupt baronet or earl's son. That was why the whole thing was so common.

The girl gets to be a real life duchess, and the cash infusion immediately keeps the estate from going into default, so everyone wins.

See also Jenny Jerome, one-time Mrs. Randolph Churchill.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:21 AM (llXky)

336 Per Daily Mail

70% of Covid cases in UK hospitals discovered in patients that were there for something else. That is the great Covid SURGE that is leading to lockdowns. People who didnt even know they were sick with the Ro.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:21 AM (SF9uI)

337 But women think they can "reform" him.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 11:11 AM (/U27+)

Probably. My niece once brough home a very handsome guy who was waiting for his "perfect job" to come along. He was not seeking it, it was to come to him. In the meantime, he did not much, but was very entitled. Her parents were disheartened, but said nothing. I rarely say nothing. I said " Stop dating like you're a 16 year old, unless you want to support this guy forever" She was pissed, but they broke up. The man she married a few years later was good looking, well-employed, but certainly not rich. He wasn't a penniless leech with a sheyn punem either.

Posted by: Sockmund Freud at December 26, 2021 11:22 AM (ONvIw)

338 I find language both marvelous and treacherous.
Posted by: Brett at December 26, 2021 11:16 AM (j7zpR)


Mother Hate wasn't a highly educated woman but she insisted that her offspring be well spoken. Even my idiot brother.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 26, 2021 11:22 AM (y7DUB)

339
I've got 20 gb of music on my phone, so it's INCREDIBLY rare I listen to the radio.

I got sick of hearing the same 35 songs over and over and over and over and over and over.....

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)
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I download podcasts and play them while driving. I particularly enjoy The Lord of Spirits podcast. Good stuff on the spirit world.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:22 AM (llXky)

340 I was amused to see that my middle daughter has her older sister saved on her phone as "Drama Queen."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:17 AM (llXky)

That's pretty funny. I should do that with my sister.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:20 AM (qxz9B)

My brother has the Darth Vader theme music ringtone assigned to his wife's cell number. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (VwHCD)

341 Give a woman a picture of zbill Gates or Warren Buffet or Elon Musk before they were famous and most women would turn the picture face down on the table and walk away.
Posted by: Megthered at December 26, 2021 11:21 AM (sfWd9)


And just how attractive are these women that they think they can be so choosy?

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (qxz9B)

342
See also Jenny Jerome, one-time Mrs. Randolph Churchill.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:21 AM (llXky)

_________

She screwed 'em all, I think. Went at it like a bunny.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (/U27+)

343
My brother has the Darth Vader theme music ringtone assigned to his wife's cell number. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (VwHCD)



Wait.....your brother's married?

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

344
And just how attractive are these women that they think they can be so choosy?
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (qxz9B)



This NEVER enters the equation.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

345 This hurts to read. Have we opened Pandora's box?

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 10:16 AM (cTCuP)
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My first thought was myocarditis brought about by the vaccine. I then paused to pray, and that is now my second thought as well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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My first thought too. Healthy 14 year olds don't just have heart attacks out of the blue.... this is NOT normal.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 26, 2021 11:24 AM (UUBmN)

346 And just how attractive are these women that they think they can be so choosy?
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (qxz9B)

The entire spectrum, both 0's and 1's.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2021 11:24 AM (4I/2K)

347 340 I was amused to see that my middle daughter has her older sister saved on her phone as "Drama Queen."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:17 AM (llXky)

I used to have my husband's ring saved as "this old man"

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:25 AM (ONvIw)

348 My brother has the Darth Vader theme music ringtone assigned to his wife's cell number. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (VwHCD)


That's pretty funny, too.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:25 AM (qxz9B)

349
And just how attractive are these women that they think they can be so choosy?
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (qxz9B)

_________

Nearly 30 years of dog shows has convinced me that people's capacity for self-delusion is almost infinite.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 11:25 AM (/U27+)

350 She screwed 'em all, I think. Went at it like a bunny.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (/U27+)

Egalitarianism at it's finest.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2021 11:26 AM (4I/2K)

351
This NEVER enters the equation.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

In fiction or movies, it always enters the equation. This is why she has a choice to begin with.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:26 AM (ONvIw)

352 Ideally hot and rich is what women want. But hot and poor gets old fast. Ugly and rich will lead to a nice life. And just as hot women age and become less hot so do guys, eventually.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:26 AM (SF9uI)

353 My darling youngest kidlet bought me 3 books -- NYT and WSJ crosswords. She was shocked at the cost. (I had 5 on my list.)

Yes, print is pretty much gone.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 26, 2021 11:28 AM (MIKMs)

354
In fiction or movies, it always enters the equation. This is why she has a choice to begin with.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:26 AM (ONvIw)



I disagree. The woman's looks have nothing to do with how choosey the woman is.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

355 I saw a study about tinder swiping. The conclusion was that only 10% of men on Tinder have any chance because every woman swipes left and right on the same people.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:28 AM (SF9uI)

356 Women are, in general, weaker than men. That they can't seem to grasp this makes them also stupider.

Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 11:29 AM (cTCuP)

357 352 Ideally hot and rich is what women want. But hot and poor gets old fast. Ugly and rich will lead to a nice life. And just as hot women age and become less hot so do guys, eventually.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:26 AM (SF9uI)

Men like hot and rich, too, as it happens. Most women don't get to choose between and impoverished Cary Grant and a fugly Soros type. The choice is usually much more subtle. I say always err on the side of stability.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:29 AM (ONvIw)

358 Women are, in general, weaker than men. That they can't seem to grasp this makes them also stupider.
Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 11:29 AM (cTCuP)



SCORE!!!!!

Posted by: Typical Frat Boy at December 26, 2021 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

359 The one time I went to the ER I felt like a complete fraud,
"Why are you here?"
*muttering* "My doctor sent me"

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 26, 2021 11:19 AM (FcPY7)


Any time we need blood work here we have to go to the ER.

Posted by: Vic at December 26, 2021 11:30 AM (mpXpK)

360 A hot guy wants hot and rich. An ugly rich guy just wants hot.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:30 AM (SF9uI)

361
I disagree. The woman's looks have nothing to do with how choosey the woman is.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

Well, I disagree with you, too. LOL. And homely paunchy guys still want miss hawt, no?

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:31 AM (ONvIw)

362 Posted by: sinmi at December 26, 2021 11:21 AM

You're very welcome, sinmi. Have fun!

Posted by: Brett at December 26, 2021 11:31 AM (j7zpR)

363 What the hell are yall talking about? "Yall" can mean one or many, "all yall" sometimes being used for emphasis.

I still maintain that "yall" is it's own word and needs no apostrophe. That's my reality.

Posted by: f'd at December 26, 2021 11:31 AM (Tnijr)

364 Any time we need blood work here we have to go to the ER.
Posted by: Vic

Ugh
How awful

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 26, 2021 11:32 AM (FcPY7)

365 This suggests that handsome men can't accomplish anything but looking in the mirror, unless penniless really means "not rich".
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 10:48 AM (ONvIw)

Uh, that was a quote from the top content (A.H. Lloyd, actually) and he was remarking upon a trope in fiction. I was snarking that "penniless and handsome" does necessarily mean "good husband material".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 11:32 AM (P3gRi)

366
Well, I disagree with you, too. LOL. And homely paunchy guys still want miss hawt, no?
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:31 AM (ONvIw)



Yes. I resembled this remark in my youth.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

367 >>> 356 Women are, in general, weaker than men. That they can't seem to grasp this makes them also stupider.
Posted by: creeper at December 26, 2021 11:29 AM (cTCuP)

Like, I can *too* beat up a dozen 6" 275 pound guys by myself!

Posted by: 105 pound when soaking wet Hollywood action starlet at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (llON8)

368 And just how attractive are these women that they think they can be so choosy?
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:23 AM (qxz9B)


This NEVER enters the equation.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

They buried one of my ex girlfriends a few weeks ago. The girl was absolutely stunning, she looked like a young kelly lebrock. She used her looks as a weapon, always looking for the next dude, never could be happy. She had dudes that most women would have been more than happy to be with, but it wasn't enough, ever. Obviously it didn't end well for her. She got mixed up with the wrong dude and it probably killed her. Drugs I think.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (VwHCD)

369 And homely paunchy guys still want miss hawt, no?
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:31 AM (ONvIw)

I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (4I/2K)

370 Too many young women dont realize they have a very short window to seal the deal with a partner. And they are way too picky because they have simps all around. Then they hit 30 and suddenly nobody pays attention anymore. And then they ask they idiotic where have all the good men gone questions. They havent gone anywhere. They just have better options now and ignore you.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (SF9uI)

371 Back to reading. After I finish the Parker Pyne stories, I'm going to move on to something less breezy. And I also plan on finding out why the left now considers Dorothy Canfield Fisher to be radioactive.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (ONvIw)

372 I read book for entertainment - not political lectures.

Scroom.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at December 26, 2021 10:53 AM (RS9ZG)

Sorry to hear that about Silva- Mr. S. likes his books.

Posted by: sal at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (bJKUl)

373
I still maintain that "yall" is it's own word and needs no apostrophe. That's my reality.
Posted by: f'd at December 26, 2021 11:31 AM (Tnijr)


Well, it's a contraction of 'you' and 'all,' so 'y'all.'

You separate members of a group out with "Y'all suck." and include the whole group with "All y'all suck."

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)

374 A hot guy wants hot and rich. An ugly rich guy just wants hot.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:30 AM (SF9uI)

I wanted normal.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:35 AM (VwHCD)

375 As a footnote, other Southerners might disagree with me on this, but "y'all" always means plural. We may say it to an individual, but when we do, we mean that individual plus the group we associate with him, whether family, or business associates or schoolmates. Before you quote Lewis Grizzard at me, I read that column too, and was flabbergasted he got it so wrong.
Posted by: Brett
----
The plural is "all y'all"...it is known.
Y'all alone can be singular many times.


Posted by: lin-duh at December 26, 2021 11:36 AM (UUBmN)

376 Ideally hot and rich is what women want. But hot and poor gets old fast. Ugly and rich will lead to a nice life. And just as hot women age and become less hot so do guys, eventually.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:26 AM (SF9uI)

But as always, what woman say they want and what they actually go for when presented with it is not always the same thing.

Also, hot girls with their pick of men often choose unwisely
More normal or regular or reserved women are under no such illusions and usually choose well

Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2021 11:36 AM (mR6Gs)

377 And then they ask they idiotic where have all the good men gone questions. They havent gone anywhere. They just have better options now and ignore you.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (SF9uI)

Younger cuter options, anyway.

One of kid2's acquaintances just dumped the 40 yo mother of his child for a 20 something who is young and "hot". She played him like a violin, very agreeable. Now they're married and she's changing the agreeable part.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:36 AM (ONvIw)

378 "Well, it's a contraction of 'you' and 'all,' so 'y'all.' "

Is it? Not "ya all"?

Posted by: f'd at December 26, 2021 11:37 AM (Tnijr)

379 I wanted normal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:35 AM (VwHCD)

Normal hot

Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2021 11:37 AM (mR6Gs)

380 >>They buried one of my ex girlfriends a few weeks ago.

I'm sorry to hear that. Sounds like there may be more

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 26, 2021 11:37 AM (CWMF2)

381 A poor girl wants to marry
and a rich girl wants to flirt.
A rich man goes to college
and a poor man goes to work.

Posted by: Zombie Charles Daniel, Violinist at December 26, 2021 11:37 AM (4I/2K)

382
Normal hot
Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2021 11:37 AM (mR6Gs)



Isn't that the unicorn?

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

383 Too many young women dont realize they have a very short window to seal the deal with a partner. And they are way too picky because they have simps all around. Then they hit 30 and suddenly nobody pays attention anymore. And then they ask they idiotic where have all the good men gone questions. They havent gone anywhere. They just have better options now and ignore you.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (SF9uI)

And so was the case with the chick I just wrote about above your post.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:38 AM (VwHCD)

384 If y'all are discussing Ken Follett, I would like to take the opportunity to mention _On Wings of Eagles_, even if it isn't fiction. Well, it's supposedly non-fiction but you begin to suspect the truth is kind of fuzzy...

Anyway, you'd need to read the book to know what I'm talking about. And I suspect a lot of the conflicting "facts" that came out afterwards were basically politically motivated when Perot went into politics.

But the reason I like the book is because of its portrayal of Arthur "Bull" Simons, who led the mission.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 26, 2021 11:38 AM (iWwgK)

385 And I also plan on finding out why the left now considers Dorothy Canfield Fisher to be radioactive.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:33 AM (ONvIw)

Do I need to say they ruin everything?
I thought they would like "Understood Betsy", in which a
wimpy little girl goes to live with her New England relatives and develops a spine and good sense. Wrong kind of Girrrlpower?

Posted by: sal at December 26, 2021 11:38 AM (bJKUl)

386 Hot rich smart

Pick 2

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:38 AM (SF9uI)

387 @340 --

A former co-worker of mine had that.

I wouldn't dare do that; my wife just might overhear it someday.

I use one of the ring tones that come with the phone.

Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 11:39 AM (Om/di)

388
Do I need to say they ruin everything?
I thought they would like "Understood Betsy", in which a
wimpy little girl goes to live with her New England relatives and develops a spine and good sense. Wrong kind of Girrrlpower?
Posted by: sal at December 26, 2021 11:38 AM (bJKUl)

Definitely. Self-sufficiency seems to be a "no".

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:40 AM (ONvIw)

389 I wouldn't dare do that; my wife just might overhear it someday.

I use one of the ring tones that come with the phone.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 11:39 AM (Om/di)


My husband's ring tone is the them from The Exorcist. That's fun when it goes off in the middle of the night.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (qxz9B)

390
Do I need to say they ruin everything?
I thought they would like "Understood Betsy", in which a
wimpy little girl goes to live with her New England relatives and develops a spine and good sense. Wrong kind of Girrrlpower?
Posted by: sal at December 26, 2021 11:38 AM (bJKUl)

Anyway, they renamed the award given in her name. Some made up story about eugenics that absolutely no documentation supports.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (ONvIw)

391 Oh, I'm starting book 6 in the Wheel of Time, Lord of Chaos.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (UUBmN)

392 I wanted normal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:35 AM (VwHCD)

Normal hot

Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2021 11:37 AM (mR6Gs)

Well Mrs B was a smoke show when I met her, and she was pretty normal. She was a smoke show and didn't know it. thats the secret.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (VwHCD)

393 My wife loves cats.

This is her ringtone on my phone, with just the bad words 'reversed' to make it 'PG.'

https://youtu.be/nxhgP6xsrsY


I don't like cats.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

394 Hot rich smart

Pick 2
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:38 AM (SF9uI)

reasonably hot , rich enough or pretty smart
any two

Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2021 11:42 AM (mR6Gs)

395 I, too, have pretty much given up on local radio.

I've bought numerous used CDs. What I need is a bigger storage container* for them in the car.





*You think I'm going to write "rack" in this place?

Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Om/di)

396
Well Mrs B was a smoke show when I met her, and she was pretty normal. She was a smoke show and didn't know it. thats the secret.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (VwHCD)



As long as she's a smoke show to you, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

I'm lucky in the fact that when we met, my wife was quite the looker and for some reason found my troll ass attractive.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)

397 Theme, not them. Jeez.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (qxz9B)

398
I'm lucky in the fact that when we met, my wife was quite the looker and for some reason found my troll ass attractive.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)

Are you financially stable? LOL

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (ONvIw)

399
My husband's ring tone is the them from The Exorcist. That's fun when it goes off in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (qxz9B)



Wasn't that Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells?

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

400 And then there's that delicious linguistic occurrence when you get to use two (count 'em, two) apostrophes in the same word: y'all's.
Typically heard during the autumn months throughout the Southeastern Conference:
"Y'all's team gonna lose today."

Posted by: Just sayin' at December 26, 2021 11:44 AM (jYQlA)

401 Forget seeing today's gazillionaires in their youth -- I want to see what Grandma and Grandpa looked like as twentysomethings.

Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 11:46 AM (Om/di)

402
Well Mrs B was a smoke show when I met her, and she was pretty normal. She was a smoke show and didn't know it. thats the secret.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (VwHCD)

I know a woman like that, still beautiful and reasonably thin at almost 60.
She had three kids

She never packaged herself, or spent money on hair or makeovers and never worked out or rode a peloton and ate whatever she wanted.

She was never DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, and never really "hot", just consistently beautiful

Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2021 11:46 AM (mR6Gs)

403 Now they're married and she's changing the agreeable part.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:36 AM (ONvIw)

The trap is sprung. Game over.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 26, 2021 11:46 AM (II3Gr)

404
Are you financially stable? LOL
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (ONvIw)



Now, yes. Then? Hells no.....

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)

405 Spanish has multiple ways to say YOU, which has to do with language change from romance Spanish and Occitan influence:
Tu (singular) is informal and used for close friends, family and people lower status than you
Vos (singular) is archaic and is used in Argentina and other backwater parts of South America and is considered originally to be useful in talking to higher status people
Vosotros (plural) is also higher status and is used only in Spain
and Usted and Ustedes (singular and plural) is a more modern and neutral formulation: from Su Merced (your mercy) it is prima fascia ultra formal, but in use it is just a politeness, and in places like Colombia it displaces Tu almost completely since it does not require a estimation of comparative status.

I don't know how Hemingway used his thee and thou but they should be used in place of Tu, usted and Ustedes, not vos and vosotros

Posted by: Kindltot - who used to know both subjunctive tense verb conjugations in Spanish at December 26, 2021 11:46 AM (ZMraq)

406 She was never DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, and never really "hot", just consistently beautiful
Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2021 11:46 AM (mR6Gs)


Bitch.

j/k of course. That's jealousy speaking.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:47 AM (qxz9B)

407 Now, yes. Then? Hells no.....
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)

She saw potential and a nice personality. A good choice

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:47 AM (ONvIw)

408 Initial looks are nice but to me personality is very important along with smarts. A dumb person would drive me crazy after 2 minutes. Being able to make me laugh is a biggie too. Stability is nice if you want a family.
But number one is being a Christian.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 26, 2021 11:47 AM (UUBmN)

409 I don't like cats.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

It's 3x the fun at my place.

Posted by: BignJames at December 26, 2021 11:47 AM (AwYPR)

410 Wasn't that Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells?
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)


Yep. Scary as hell in a pitch black room at 2 in the morning.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:48 AM (qxz9B)

411 I'm lucky in the fact that when we met, my wife was quite the looker and for some reason found my troll ass attractive.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)

I can relate. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:48 AM (VwHCD)

412 The trap is sprung. Game over.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 26, 2021 11:46 AM (II3Gr)

Yep. The kid's life is altered, and now she wants to get rid of doggo, too.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:48 AM (ONvIw)

413
She saw potential and a nice personality. A good choice
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:47 AM (ONvIw)



Heh. I will accept this and feel good about it.

🤣

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

414 She saw potential and a nice personality. A good choice
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:47 AM (ONvIw)


Sponge is lying. He's not a troll. He's good looking.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:49 AM (qxz9B)

415 AOP, stella said yes, requirement of NY schools.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2021 11:13 AM (qpolg)

Manslaughter, then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 11:49 AM (P3gRi)

416 I still don't know much about women, but I wish i knew as little about them 30 years ago as I do now

Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2021 11:49 AM (mR6Gs)

417 "y'all's"

My proposal eliminates that problem.


"All yall" should be said with a big sweep of the arm, preferably the one holding your beer.

Posted by: f'd's proposal at December 26, 2021 11:50 AM (Tnijr)

418
Yep. Scary as hell in a pitch black room at 2 in the morning.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:48 AM (qxz9B)



My dad had it on vinyl when I was a kid. The record company's logo plus the middle part of the song scared the holy hell out of me......

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

419
Being able to make me laugh is a biggie too.

_______

Jessica Rabbit agrees.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2021 11:50 AM (/U27+)

420
Sponge is lying. He's not a troll. He's good looking.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:49 AM (qxz9B)



There's a reason I grew facial hair......

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)

421 When friend of mine met my gf (now wife) for the first time he said to me and I quote you fucking dawg, how the hell did you get that? Which was at first a compliment, I thought. Then I was like what the fuck do you mean, of course I can get that, lol.

He was one of my groomsmen at the wedding.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 11:51 AM (SF9uI)

422
See also Jenny Jerome, one-time Mrs. Randolph Churchill.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:21 AM (llXky)


Think also on the meme of the "rich older man" who turns out to be high status and running away from creditors so there is no real money.

Women go for the greatest status they can get, for a man who is older within 7 years, and provides the best stability. And women get the deciding vote.

Posted by: Kindltot - who used to know both subjunctive tense verb conjugations in Spanish at December 26, 2021 11:53 AM (ZMraq)

423 A Christmas photo story:

Many years ago, our family got tapped by the local newspaper to appear in a pic of a dad reading to his kids to run on the Eve.
So Mom had to buy red and white striped PJs for the boys, get them fresh buzz cuts, curl my sister's and my hair (this involved pin curls), clean the living room and otherwise get us camera ready for the early evening shoot.
The photographer shows up, poses us and then decides he wants Mom in the shot.
The irony here is that our mother was a strikingly attractive woman all her life, but was not looking her best at that moment.
Nothing beats appearing in the paper wearing a wrinkled skirt and blouse and loafers, with flat hair and no make-up
to put you in the holiday spirit.

When I showed that to my own kids, the unanimous reaction was "Wow, Nino looks PISSED."

Thanks for the memory, hope you both feel better.

Posted by: sal at December 26, 2021 11:54 AM (bJKUl)

424 Cernovich
at_Cernovich

They said the vaccine stopped transmission. Now they are lying and saying they didn't.

Video proof here


10:32 PM - Dec 25, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3qto40j

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 26, 2021 11:54 AM (Do5/p)

425 NOOD

Posted by: Vic at December 26, 2021 11:54 AM (mpXpK)

426 My husband was a varsity letterman and was dating a cheerleader when I met him. I was a nerd. Still don't know how we got together.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:54 AM (qxz9B)

427 It always does crack me up the difference between what one person finds smokin' hot to another.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)

428 My husband was a varsity letterman and was dating a cheerleader when I met him. I was a nerd. Still don't know how we got together.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:54 AM (qxz9B)

Do I really need to explain it to you? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:55 AM (VwHCD)

429 427 It always does crack me up the difference between what one person finds smokin' hot to another.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)

This is true.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:56 AM (ONvIw)

430 Its snowing today. Missed a white Christmas by about 5 hours, apparently. I've been living in Oregon since 1969 and its never snowed on Christmas here in Salem. To the best of my knowledge it has not ever on record.

Incidentally, Google got busted giving the Biden administration info on people doing certain searches.
https://tinyurl.com/yvjx7whm

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2021 11:56 AM (KZzsI)

431 Do I really need to explain it to you? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:55 AM (VwHCD)


It was the boobs, wasn't it?

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:57 AM (qxz9B)

432 411 I'm lucky in the fact that when we met, my wife was quite the looker and for some reason found my troll ass attractive.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)

I can relate. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:48 AM (VwHCD)

My experience has been that if a guy has other excellent qualities, his looks drop far down the scale.

Posted by: sal at December 26, 2021 11:58 AM (bJKUl)

433 Yep. The kid's life is altered, and now she wants to get rid of doggo, too.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 11:48 AM (ONvIw)
---
Yeah, as I always say to guys looking a bailing out, as bad as your wife is now, wait until she's a psycho ex-wife.

I don't mean to cross the threads, but I'm pretty sure that several of my firearms were the result of a vindictive ex-wife who took half the collection and dumped it at the local shop. Either that, or the husband knew it was going to happen so got what he could when he could.

Divorce doesn't solve problems, it simply switches them out for different problems.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:59 AM (llXky)

434
It was the boobs, wasn't it?
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:57 AM (qxz9B)



Atta girl.....

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 26, 2021 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)

435 Do I really need to explain it to you? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:55 AM (VwHCD)

It was the boobs, wasn't it?

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 26, 2021 11:57 AM (qxz9B)

Uh, no. Its the total package.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 12:03 PM (VwHCD)

436 I've bought numerous used CDs. What I need is a bigger storage container* for them in the car.





*You think I'm going to write "rack" in this place?
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Om/di)

Use your computer to copy them over the thumb drives, and then get a car stereo with an USB input. With thumb drives, you can fit as much music in the ashtray as you could fit CD's in the trunk.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 12:03 PM (P3gRi)

437 Divorce doesn't solve problems, it simply switches them out for different problems.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 11:59 AM (llXky)

They seemed very happy and compatible, then the new admin appeared and he turned 40. The kid is miserable, the ex has adjusted, and the doggo was blessedly rehomed before the hottie could have it sent to a shelter. Marry in haste repent at leisure, I guess

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 12:03 PM (ONvIw)

438 Jordan==bacon wench...need I say more???
Lololol!

Posted by: lin-duh at December 26, 2021 12:05 PM (UUBmN)

439 I read "The Last Duel" by Eric Jager. The Matt Damon/Adam Driver movie was based on this. The time and effort in researching this book is positively incredible. Also incredible is the fact that so many primary sources survived six centuries, the French Revolution, and two world wars. Highly recommended for anyone interested in Midieval France.

Still grimly plodding my way through "The Second World Wars" by Victor Davis Hansen. It's not that the book is boring or tedious; the damned thing is so dense. I don't know how many times I've had to read a couple of paragraphs to make sure I got everything. The other issue is that Hanson assumes that you, the reader, have memorized every word of "The Peloponnesian War" by Thucydides.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at December 26, 2021 12:07 PM (N86eO)

440 I finished Uncivil Defense last night, book 7 in Maggie Sullivan mysteries. I have mentioned the books here before, but I want to plug them again because they are good.

She's a private detective in Dayton Ohio in the 1940s, starting in the 1930s. Each book is approximately a year along in history, and they are very well done. She's funny and tough and smart without being a STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER. She fits her time instead of being a modern woman transported into the past.

There's a strong sense of setting and time, and the author is very clever about giving Maggie advantages by being a woman that aren't ridiculous. She can get away with things and learn things a man probably wouldn't, and uses things like a victory pin she's wearing to her advantage in reasonable ways. Its very cleverly done and very welcome.

If you're looking for smart, funny, historical mystery stuff, I recommend the series.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2021 12:17 PM (KZzsI)

441 Oh, I am also still reading Sister Muses, a compilation of short stories put together by our own Elizabeth Wolfe. The stories are really well done, although most of them are quite sad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2021 12:19 PM (KZzsI)

442 The homeschool drills that made Cooper Kupp a star WR

Cooper Kupp reveals the drills he did with his father during childhood that have paid dividends in his NFL career.

https://es.pn/3qtpbx4

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 26, 2021 12:20 PM (Do5/p)

443 Military, Fenway Bowls canceled because of COVID-19 issues

The Military and Fenway Bowls were canceled Sunday as a result of COVID-19 issues with participating teams.

Boston College had over 40 players unavailable to play in the Military Bowl presented by Peraton, benefiting the USO, against East Carolina on Monday. Virginia also had players test positive for COVID-19, making it unable to travel and play SMU at the Wasabi Fenway Bowl, set for Wednesday.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 26, 2021 12:32 PM (Do5/p)

444 "Why on earth would God choose to be born among a defeated people in a backwoods town under a shadow of dishonor through a dirt poor, unwed teenager? Solidarity, that's why.

"The very first statement Jesus ever voiced about his concern for the poor, oppressed, marginalized people was when he cried out as one of them -- eyes shut tight, mouth wide open, wailing, kicking, shaking and dripping with blood and amniotic fluid. It was one of the most profound acts of solidarity with the poor he could make. He cast his lot not with the world's emperors or with the rich and powerful but with the world's demoralized peasants. When God voted with his birth, he voted for the poor. It was the fulfillment of a long-awaited plan for God to live among the people he had made."

Scott Bessenecker
The New Friars: The Emerging Movement Serving the World's Poor

Posted by: Jim S. at December 26, 2021 12:33 PM (ynUnH)

445 God doesn't particularly care about our economic status, He cares about our souls.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2021 12:40 PM (KZzsI)

446 A 4 with $10M net worth > a 9 with $0 net worth for most women. Just walk down the street looking at couples if you doubt it.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 26, 2021 10:54 AM (SF9uI)

Saw that enough times in Santa Barbara and Montecito to never doubt it again. (and I think you are being generous with a '4' rating.)

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at December 26, 2021 12:41 PM (Hh3y4)

447 445 God doesn't particularly care about our economic status, He cares about our souls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2021 12:40 PM (KZzsI)

I disagree. He cares about everything. It's all his creation. All he wants is credit and thankfulness. He didn't give me life just to wish for an afterlife.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 26, 2021 12:52 PM (Fs5vw)

448 Well Mrs B was a smoke show when I met her, and she was pretty normal. She was a smoke show and didn't know it. thats the secret.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 26, 2021 11:41 AM (VwHCD)

Especially today, that is a rare woman. Good for you.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at December 26, 2021 12:54 PM (Hh3y4)

449 I disagree. He cares about everything. It's all his creation.

That's why I used the word "particularly" so that it designated a hierarchy of concerned. Your economic status is very low on the ranking of things, your soul is first and foremost. As Jesus said, none of that will matter in the end, only your moral status before God.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2021 01:46 PM (KZzsI)

450 444 is this sjw crap

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 02:06 PM (ONvIw)

451 450 444 is this sjw crap
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 26, 2021 02:06 PM

Social gospel-and just as useful.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at December 26, 2021 02:57 PM (Hh3y4)

452 I was just in a packed Barnes & Noble. Some observations:

People still love dead trees books
They are still printing the old SF masters
As I've noted before, the current state of fiction covers is appalling. Minimal if any art, just title and author. Science fiction and Fantasy still believe in eye candy, thank goodness.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 26, 2021 03:27 PM (ZjvPR)

453 JTB at 55

"Flint" favorite Louis L'Amour book.

+1

Posted by: waepnedmann at December 26, 2021 05:04 PM (RAdRs)

454 "453 JTB at 55

"Flint" favorite Louis L'Amour book.

+1"

My dad gave me that book.

Posted by: goodluckduck at December 26, 2021 11:16 PM (pCXlW)

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