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Gun Thread: Pre-Christmas Edition!
Last week, at the suggestion of our pal Oddbob we invited lurkers to creep out of the shadows and say hello, and what a great job they did! We saw a lot of new nics in the comments and I want to welcome and thank all of the new contributors! Hope you find the time to visit again this week and tell us about your shooting, or even your lack thereof if you didn't manage to get to the range. Let us know what is on your mind, and if there is a particular topic you would like to see covered in a future thread just speak up and we'll do our best to address it.
Math? I Was Told There Would Be No Math!!
- Which of the concepts presented are relevant to shooting?
- What particular shooting problem can you solve using the concept?
- How would you apply the concept to solve the problem? Good luck!
I couldn't resist including this pic - Weasel
It may interest you to look at the low powered end of the spectrum of rifles; in this case - air rifles.Wow! Things have really changed since 1970 and my Red Ryder days! How about the rest of you? Anyone else shooting air rifles? Seems to me like not a bad idea to have one around for these uncertain times we're living in together.
The pre-charged pneumatics have improved dramatically over the last decade or so, giving air rifle shooters choices of .177, .22, .25, .30 and up to .50 cal projectiles. Energy levels in .25 of 90FPE and above using pellets or slugs. Probably the best overall in terms of power, shots per fill, flexibility, and most importantly - accuracy, is the FX series. Expect to pay $2000 or more for a fully dressed item from this maker. On the other end of the price scale is the Air Venturi Avenger at about $350 for the nekkid gun. This one also features both an externally adjustable regulator and hammer spring. According to the Tube vids, pellets work best at around 850-920 FPS, slugs can handle greater velocities. The beauty of these two is that they can be fine-tuned in pressure and volume to achieve the desired velocity while using the minimum of air charge. What intrigues me so much about the air rifles is how quiet they can be, sound moderators are legal and outside the purview of the ATFE as they are not firearms. Being able to dial in the pressure and volume equation with a screwdriver at the shooting bench makes life real nice. Much simpler than handloading gunpowder cartridges, which, after all is said and done is achieving the correct pressure and volume for the given rifle twist, barrel length, projectile specifics and desired muzzle velocity. Air rifles are not for picking off big game at 500 yards; they can, however take feral hogs at 50 yards with head shots, without a whole lot of noise. The big benefit to air rifles is the ability to shoot in the back yard or inside the house without bothering the neighbors. Of course this requires a proper projectile trap and I have found that a stack of magazines taped together about 3-4" thick will do the job nicely. Perhaps more people could be brought into the shooting discipline by starting at the low power end.
I picked up this Benelli M4 right before COVID hit, adding the Aimpoint Comp M5 later. This is one of the military/law enforcement models, with a full 7 shot magazine tube and three position collapsible stock. Arguably the creme de la creme of tactical shotguns, it still has all the drawbacks of shotguns. There are a lot of pluses to this, not the least of which is the relatively mild recoil when firing full power defense loads of buckshot or slugs. But this shotgun still has significant drawbacks, which include: Length of pull: Most Benelli M4s have fixed, full length stocks. If you have short arms, this can be a potential dealbreaker because the ergonomics just don't work. SRA Blaster and Iris found that the middle position of the stock suited them much better than the fully extended position. Complexity: This shotgun's manual of arms is more complicated than most pump action shotguns. It includes a bolt hold open feature that allows the shooter to swap the round in the chamber without feeding another from the magazine tube (useful for swapping buckshot for slugs or vice versa). You can also "ghost load" the weapon by placing the shell on the lifter before loading a shell in the chamber to raise the maximum ammo capacity to nine rounds. But this isn't instinctive for new users. It takes a lot of practice to learn. Benelli M4's are hard to find and cost a lot ($1,800 - $2,000 for starters). The military/law enforcement models are even harder to find and run right now around $4,000. That said, if you have the $$, want the very best shotgun money can buy, and can live with the downsides, grab one of the military/law enforcement models if you see it. Converting one of "neutered" versions from five shots to seven and adding the collapsible stock is doable but is problematic right now due to parts shortages.Then Ed L decided to do a patterning comparison.
I also looked at the differences in pattern spread for a couple of buckshot loads. First picture is a nine pellet load of Nobel Sport 2.75" 00 buckshot at ten yards. Second picture is a nine pellet load of Fiocchi Home Defense 2.75" 00 buckshot at ten yards. The Nobel Sport load appears to have a wider spread than the Fiocchi load. That said, it may not matter at typical home defense range. Ten yards is pretty close to max range for a typical home defense scenario. But these pictures should debunk Hollywood's depiction of a close-range shotgun blast taking out most of a room like a grenade explosion.Great work, Ed L! Thanks so much for sending this in!
By chance I came across this YouTube channel this morning. It is 'Target Suite'. This latest video is called 'Don't Lose the Magic' about taking time to just enjoy some casual shooting now and then. George is sitting in a comfortable lawn chair with an old Remington bolt action 22 plinking at some steel targets. Most of his videos are about lever action rifles and single action revolvers so they are near and dear to my heart. The ones I've watched have been both pleasant and informative.We spend a lot of time here on the Ol' Gun Thread talking about shooting accuracy and, sometimes at the expense of just having fun. It can be easy to get so wrapped up in training and related objectives that we lose sight of the fact that the sport is supposed to be fun. However, there is a time for training and a time for purely recreational shooting, and if you are just a little creative, you can even get some practice on fundamentals at the same time. As I have mentioned before that oftentimes I do exactly what the guy in the video is doing, plinking with a .22, just for the fun of it. Although precision is important, so is remembering the reasons you became a shooter in the first place. Excellent find, and great lesson JTB. Thank you!
Most Commonly Seen Used Guns
Interested in a used firearm? Here's an October 2021 video from a gun shop in Indiana on the five most common used handguns passing through the shop.
Cigar of the Week
Gun Basics 101
Just in time for Christmas, we have the She Equips Herself girl with a 2021 gift buying guide!
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
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Bud's Gun Shop
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at December 19, 2021 07:00 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative (YWBlw) at December 19, 2021 07:00 PM (YWBlw)
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Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 19, 2021 07:01 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: McGyver at December 19, 2021 07:01 PM (Iw46i)
**does happy dsnce**
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2021 07:01 PM (axyOa)
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Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko gender fluid at December 19, 2021 07:04 PM (C27Xq)
or a nice C96
or really, just about anything, any caliber, dealers choice ... the smell of all powder smoke is good !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 19, 2021 07:05 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko gender fluid at December 19, 2021 07:05 PM (C27Xq)
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Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:07 PM (HVVWb)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 19, 2021 07:07 PM (vW9Vw)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 19, 2021 07:07 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 07:08 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 19, 2021 07:08 PM (bVYXr)
I rely mostly on Kentucky windage. Can we haz a video on that next week?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 19, 2021 07:09 PM (Xrfse)
The M4 is a great shotgun, but I picked up a Benelli M1 Super 90 with a 7 shot tube for $800 about 10 years back.
I patterned about 8 different loads, and found the Federal #1 buckshot (15 pellet) with Flight Control wads patterned the best. Pancake size spread at 10 yards. Absolutely perfect.
Oh, and for Christmas this year, I want a Colt SAA in .45 Colt.
Posted by: SARDiver at December 19, 2021 07:09 PM (Cmxw7)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 19, 2021 07:09 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: Muad'dib at December 19, 2021 07:09 PM (/bKbU)
McGyver, over
Posted by: McGyver at December 19, 2021 07:10 PM (Iw46i)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:10 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 19, 2021 07:10 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:12 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Muad'dib at December 19, 2021 07:09 PM
When you're the best, envy is just something you have to accept.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 07:12 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: SARDiver at December 19, 2021 07:12 PM (Cmxw7)
Posted by: SARDiver at December 19, 2021 07:12 PM (Cmxw7)
No shooting for us this week, getting ready to drive to SC for the holidays.
This has been a GREAT year for me...
I hope it has been for all ya'll too.
Merry Christmas!! Happy Holidays!!!
Thanks Weasel for teaching up things and keeping us amused as well as educated.
This is the greatest gun forum/thread ever IMO
Posted by: jesse in dc at December 19, 2021 07:12 PM (kTRt4)
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 07:12 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 07:13 PM (0OP+5)
I have shopped a little today. It appears to me that multiple scope brands and configurations are still in stock at prices less than MSRP. (So the ammo panic has apparently NOT extended its greasy paws all of the way to the scope market.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:13 PM (tkyK5)
Posted by: Muad'dib at December 19, 2021 07:09 PM
I will also enter into evidence an 'ette quote made on this very blog:
"Hogmartin has a lovely tool."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 07:13 PM (a3Q+t)
The cigar of the day is one I've seen but not tried from C-I. I have a Mark Twain panatella, also from C-i on tap for later.
Merry Christmas to the Horde!
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at December 19, 2021 07:13 PM (Ueqns)
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Thank you Jesse! But it's all of you guys and gals that makes this fun.
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:14 PM (0IeYL)
In the last few months I've gotten my Texas LTC, found a SIG P365XL w/ RDS that I love, and have been to the range a few times.
Found a great outdoor range here that is always empty during the week, so I shag off of work for a couple of hours to go blast paper. Had been too long.
Posted by: ballistic at December 19, 2021 07:14 PM (oXNqT)
It is on my list of things to acquire when I leave this wretched State.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 19, 2021 07:14 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko gender fluid at December 19, 2021 07:04 PM (C27Xq)
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One year I got an M1919 Browning toy, with the spade grips and a tripod. So very cool...
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:14 PM (llXky)
Posted by: f'd at December 19, 2021 07:15 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2021 07:15 PM (63Dwl)
"Hogmartin has a lovely tool."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 07:13 PM (a3Q+t)
As a squid, it was hardly ever used.
Posted by: Muad'dib at December 19, 2021 07:15 PM (/bKbU)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:16 PM (0IeYL)
Little Johnny, did you bring enough for everyone?
*insert Little Johnny unspeakable joke-line, here*
Only thing better might be an MG-42 Belt-Fed M&M dispenser? Nom!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 19, 2021 07:16 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Muad'dib at December 19, 2021 07:15 PM (/bKbU)
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Obligatory: Sailors first discovered sex, but it was Marines who introduced it to women.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:16 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:17 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: f'd at December 19, 2021 07:18 PM (Tnijr)
No range time, too busy unpacking, getting Free America type DL's and such.
But, I did see two firearms openly carried in the wilds of a local supermarket. 'Murica!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at December 19, 2021 07:18 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: JuJuBee at December 19, 2021 07:18 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 19, 2021 07:18 PM (Xrfse)
It seems like just about anything fun is. Better start saving up for one, though. The prices on Gun Broker are in the nosebleed section already.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM (7EjX1)
However, I think he should have added a link to the lady teacher chanting "SOHCAHTOA", "SOHCAHTOA", "SOHCAHTOA" to her students for their trigonometry lesson.
The Leftist "journalism" majors instantly labelled her a horrible bigot - because they had absolutely zero idea about the topic of her lesson!
That video would definitely work as Troll-B-Gone for the gun thread.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM (tkyK5)
It's up on Da Broker as we speak, a Beretta M9 that just didn't work for me. I don't often sell guns (because they sink first), but from time to time I do the Marie Kondo thing and hold it and decide if it brings me joy. In this case, I could think of other things that would bring me even more joy. I'm chock full of Wonder Nines, but I don't yet have a Makarov, or a Baby Browning, or....
You get the picture.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM (0IeYL)
You get the picture.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM (llXky)
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I see, charter member of the "Sell one, buy three" club.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at December 19, 2021 07:20 PM (5pTK/)
McGyver, over
Posted by: McGyver at December 19, 2021 07:20 PM (Iw46i)
Posted by: JuJuBee at December 19, 2021 07:18 PM (mNhhD)
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Have you considered a revolver?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:20 PM (llXky)
I have a 16" mid-length 5.56 rifle already.
Any ideas? .300Blk? some 20" semi-precision type rifle?
Would love to hear what the Horde comes up with.
Posted by: ballistic at December 19, 2021 07:20 PM (oXNqT)
A friend of mine brought his SP1 made in 1970? out for a bit of shooting and I got him zeroed and we put her thru her paces out to 600 yards and she did not disappoint. Excellent rifle and it is so sad Colt went down the shitter like they did.
Very nice shotgun Ed L....top of the line!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 07:22 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 19, 2021 07:22 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 07:22 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at December 19, 2021 07:20 PM (5pTK/)
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To a point, yes. I really like finding underpriced and obscure firearms, and that was what pushed me over the edge. I have some saved searches and I realized that the sale price of the M9 would potentially bring in several interesting finds if I proceeded with patience.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:23 PM (llXky)
Posted by: RI Red at December 19, 2021 07:06 PM
Yep, she is definitely TXMoMe material!
I look forward to meeting her next year.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:23 PM (tkyK5)
How well is that going to work for on line ammo sales? I have an idea.
I hate this place. I sure hope the court throws out the FOID altogether.
Link goes to the Illinois Carry forums:
https://tinyurl.com/5af3zkwm
Posted by: Baron Munchausen at December 19, 2021 07:23 PM (C1NyB)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM
'Once you've seen one boob, you want to see them all.' Ron White
Well, once you have one gun, you want to have all of them.
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 07:24 PM (0OP+5)
Fa La La La......
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 19, 2021 07:24 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: JuJuBee at December 19, 2021 07:18 PM (mNhhD)
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Nobody owns any guns in this thread.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 19, 2021 07:25 PM (VxC1e)
I may start carrying it as my EDC. It fits all of my Glock 43 holsters so that is a plus.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 19, 2021 07:26 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: JuJuBee at December 19, 2021 07:18 PM
No one here does. We are here reminiscing of beloved firearms lost in a watery grave.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 19, 2021 07:26 PM (mcfjc)
I have a 16" mid-length 5.56 rifle already.
Any ideas? .300Blk? some 20" semi-precision type rifle?
Would love to hear what the Horde comes up with.
Posted by: ballistic at December 19, 2021 07:20 PM (oXNqT)
First question is what is the purpose of the rifle you build.
That starts you on the path to decision making.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2021 07:27 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 07:27 PM (GTm9R)
First question: What will it eat? 5.56 is easier to find and cheaper than .300 Blackout.
Second question: What's your budget? Good quality glass or suppressors can easily exceed the cost of the rifle.
Third question: What do you want to do with it? Given the ammo situation right now, I think a 20" designated marksman rifle might be the way to go. If you go w/ .300 Blackout, I think you should set up to go suppressed, since that's .300 Blackout's claim to fame.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 07:27 PM (NacE+)
My first copy-and-paste of that left off the final 's' and I was very confused for a minute.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 07:28 PM (nfrXX)
Well, once you have one gun, you want to have all of them.
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 07:24 PM (0OP+5)
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Not exactly. I've sold several guns with zero regret. I didn't like them and they didn't fit in my collection.
I'm actually pretty content with how things are, and there are only a few additional purchases under consideration.
You see, I'm one of those weird people that values "having" more than "getting."
The repeated canoe accidents are a particular torment to me.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:28 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 19, 2021 07:28 PM (WF/xn)
I have a 16" mid-length 5.56 rifle already.
Any ideas? .300Blk? some 20" semi-precision type rifle?
Would love to hear what the Horde comes up with.
Posted by: ballistic at December 19, 2021 07:20 PM (oXNqT)
And I just "happen" to have a 300BLK looking for a lower... email in nick
McGyver, over
Posted by: McGyver at December 19, 2021 07:29 PM (Iw46i)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 19, 2021 07:30 PM (IJMH4)
To be fair, a song as Santa delivers, I will be in a forgiving mood!
*And I am sure I am the only GT reader making such a request...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 19, 2021 07:30 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 07:30 PM (NacE+)
I've become a fan of the 22 mag for plinking and more careful target shooting. Although it is more expensive than 22lr it is less so than most centerfire ammo and reaches out another hundred yards. Heck, it can even stand-in as a halfway decent self defense round. Thirteen 22 caliber rounds moving at over 1,800 FPS from a Henry lever action can be discouraging.
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 07:31 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 19, 2021 07:26 PM (bVYXr)
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And yet, it's still a Glock.
Have you no self respect?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:31 PM (llXky)
Posted by: McGyver at December 19, 2021 07:32 PM (Iw46i)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:28 PM
I have almost perfected my dredge barge that is outfitted with a 200# neodymium magnet "anchor".
I will soon have the finest gun collection in the entire world.
*** Insert evil cackle here.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:33 PM (tkyK5)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:33 PM (M3Z2J)
I have a 16" mid-length 5.56 rifle already.
Any ideas? .300Blk? some 20" semi-precision type rifle?
Would love to hear what the Horde comes up with.
Posted by: b
two words
ar pistol
and no .300 nonsense if you are not going to get a suppressor and shoot subsonics
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:33 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 19, 2021 07:33 PM (VxC1e)
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Pretty sure you haven't been 'good' anyway!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:34 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Cicero
weirdly it is the guns that seem to lose the most
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:34 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 07:35 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM
I know.
Posted by: Smith & Wesson M-657 at December 19, 2021 07:35 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 19, 2021 07:35 PM (UHVv4)
I also like the Cliff Clavin trivia of the gun carried by Lewis and Clark on their expedition.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 07:36 PM (I5hoQ)
Coming from VA our CCWs are valid all the way down.
Brought my EP9 to do zombie drills at the local range and had my SIL bring her PF9 (a gift from her dear brother in law!) to shoot too.
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 07:36 PM (Yl3Ht)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:36 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 07:36 PM (0OP+5)
I will soon have the finest gun collection in the entire world. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:33 PM (tkyK5)
Reminds me of the answer to a question I put to an old Eastern Shore waterman years ago. He'd worked the Chesapeake Bay for decades.
"So, what's one thing you've never seen that you'd like to?" I asked.
He took his time responding.
"The Bay with no water in it," he said. "No telling *what* you'd find at the bottom of the Bay."
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:36 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:34 PM
Because when the guns defend themselves they create holes in the canoe which prompts it to sink. Lose-lose situation.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 19, 2021 07:36 PM (mcfjc)
I still have 3 air rifles, a Webley, a Sheridan "blue streak , and a chinese made Beeman. I had the Webley on the range there a couple weeks ago. It shoots well enough, but my eyesight is not happy with certain targets... Still working on that.
I brought a couple air pistols last time. Daisy 777 which is accurate as all get out, but so low powered it will not pierce a Shoot and See target. I will bring NRA air gun match targets next time.
I also brought a Czech Tau7 match pistol. Turned out ( I think anyway) it had a missing O ring, and dumped the CO2 cartridge instantly. I think I have that sorted, and will try it the next time I hit the range.
Finally, I have an S&W 79g air pistol, and a Crosman MK1 which is kinda like a Ruger Mk1. I rebuilt them both last winter, so should be good to go... '
Posted by: jesse in dc at December 19, 2021 07:36 PM (kTRt4)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 19, 2021 07:30 PM
I am not sure that is evidence of an electronic security leak.
I am pretty sure that Santa heads out to Weasel Acres on Dec. 26th to relax, smoke cigars, and shoot things.
It might have just slipped out in a casual conversation with Weasel!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:37 PM (tkyK5)
Hrothgar, you're not reaching high enough. You should have asked for an MP5SD instead. That way, you could have your fun w/ a giggle switch and not disturb your neighbors.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 07:37 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 19, 2021 07:33 PM (VxC1e)
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Yeah, and it's pretty one-sided. Like that time the canoe went over, most of the guns went down, but you know, you vent your rage by shooting the traitorous canoe....
...in deep water...
...yeah, that didn't work out, either.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:37 PM (llXky)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:38 PM (VMY76)
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Kinda leaning to a Sig. My first 9mm was a Browning badged Sig P220 in 9mm. Single stack, though.
I've shot the M9/M92 and it's OK. I have big paws, so the Beretta double stacks fit fine. I do have a compact M96 (.40 cal Centurion).
I shot a Hi Power eons ago when I was a Ranger. Lots of guy in my company had one of those. At that time, if you weren't authorized a pstol, you could take a POW (Personally Owned Weapon) in your Go To War Kit. You needed to have something that shot NATO Ammo, though, so 9mm or 45 ACP. So a Hi Power is not ruled out, either.
Decisions, decisions...
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2021 07:38 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 07:39 PM (I5hoQ)
When we got to shoot Ed Ls Benelli it just made me laugh. Never fired a shotgun at an indoor range before. At 10 yards the double ought put essentially a whole mag of 9mm holes in all at once. And since it was a paper target on cardboard the wad put a slug sized hole in it.
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 07:40 PM (Yl3Ht)
It might have just slipped out in a casual conversation with Weasel!
Have you ever seen Weasel and Santa at the same time?
Posted by: Methos at December 19, 2021 07:40 PM (kOpft)
You obviously need a 556, 20" barrel w/rifle length gas system.
Posted by: ck at December 19, 2021 07:40 PM (iBg56)
Posted by: hubcap at December 19, 2021 07:40 PM (YfA3G)
Kinda leaning to a Sig. My first 9mm was a Browning badged Sig P220 in 9mm. Single stack, though.
I've shot the M9/M92 and it's OK. I have big paws, so the Beretta double stacks fit fine. I do have a compact M96 (.40 cal Centurion).
I shot a Hi Power eons ago when I was a Ranger. Lots of guy in my company had one of those. At that time, if you weren't authorized a pstol, you could take a POW (Personally Owned Weapon) in your Go To War Kit. You needed to have something that shot NATO Ammo, though, so 9mm or 45 ACP. So a Hi Power is not ruled out, either.
Decisions, decisions...
Posted by: Ir
If it is for everyday use get the glock 19 gen 5, or a sig 320. but everybody gets the glock
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:40 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:34 PM (0IeYL)
Darn, I knew there was a catch...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 19, 2021 07:40 PM (hOUT3)
Some of the kids that have previously flown the nest are returning this week. One is already back today, so my dinners are going to be even better than usual!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:41 PM (tkyK5)
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Good to know, and I'll check them out. Thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:41 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 19, 2021 07:41 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:38 PM (VMY76)
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He carries it when he visits LA.
That way he fits in with everyone else.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:41 PM (llXky)
A buddy has one. "Interesting." And yes, loads of fun. My trigger finger was tired.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 19, 2021 07:42 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:42 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 07:42 PM (Yl3Ht)
That way he fits in with everyone else.
Posted by: F
santa does not visit LA, just does pylon turns to throw things out and put down some hot led
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:42 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 19, 2021 07:42 PM (+LCoQ)
I think the M9 ( Beretta 92fs) would be a great choice for a full size 9mm if you're not considering a Glock 17 or 19.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 07:42 PM (I5hoQ)
Posted by: dartist at December 19, 2021 07:43 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2021 07:38 PM (8C7+r)
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Sig Sauer P226. You can thank me later.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:43 PM (llXky)
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 07:43 PM (7EjX1)
And the real advantage of the Glock is the mags are ubiquitous and are used in all kinds of carbines.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 07:44 PM (I5hoQ)
Filing an amended request form, Be Right Back!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 19, 2021 07:44 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:44 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: JTB
Just the lever action Henry should make the perps think twice!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 07:44 PM (zofXP)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:44 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 19, 2021 07:35 PM (UHVv4)
If I remember right, Alek Solzhenitsyn was in charge of a sound-ranging battery which took out some German guns during the war. Complex shit right there like some kind of voodoo.
He was decorated but bad mouthed Uncle Joe, which of course landed him in the gulag.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 07:45 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Common Tater at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM (pQrYJ)
It's the weekend.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM (5p7BC)
I have one stamped Made in West Germany and I shoot it pretty often.
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM (Yl3Ht)
Posted by: Just a side note
Did you check the bullet caliber on those weapons?
Wow...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM (zofXP)
Been looking for a shooting cap for my wife. I think I'll buy one of those SEH hats.
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM (GTm9R)
for sleigh work I would think he has a minigun
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:44 PM (VMY76)
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I think of it as more the Final Word.
You plink away with everything else, seeing what kind of group you can hold, and then you bring out the P226.
And there it is. That's the group.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:47 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Just a side note
Did you check the bullet caliber on those weapons?
Wow...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM (zofXP)
.50 caliber iirc.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 07:47 PM (I5hoQ)
Obviously, this can only mean one thing - there will be a significant drawdown from the national ammunition reserve.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 07:48 PM (a3Q+t)
I have one stamped Made in West Germany and I shoot it pretty often.
Posted by: b
nobody is going to carry a 226 around fro cconcealed carry without a holster and a gun belt too big, too heavy
great gun, impractical if you are not in combat
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:48 PM (VMY76)
for sleigh work I would think he has a minigun
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM (VMY76)
With 2.75 rocket launcher pods over each runner.
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 07:48 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:49 PM (llXky)
Obviously, this can only mean one thing - there will be a significant drawdown from the national ammunition reserve.
Posted by: D
is this about the barrels of 1911s from the other day?
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:49 PM (VMY76)
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Sig Sauer P226. You can thank me later.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:43 PM (llXky)
I have the Mark 25 version of the P226 and a Beretta 92FS. I'm more accurate w/ the Mark 25, but I haven't had it as long as the Beretta. Both can get the job done, but the Beretta should be a bit cheaper.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 07:49 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 19, 2021 07:46 PM
So, no asking if you can lie tangent to my curves?
Posted by: Mrs. Dave in FL at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (a3Q+t)
I'm waiting for the next generation Barrett BORS that takes cellphone location data provided by the target and adjusts the sites accordingly.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:44 PM (VMY76)
Carried this abroad. Nice sidearm. "Safe queen?" Huh.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: RI Red at December 19, 2021 07:06 PM
Yep, she is definitely TXMoMe material!
I look forward to meeting her next year.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:23 PM (tkyK5)
Well, she did make me eat home-made spaghetti and wash the dishes before I got back here.Harsh taskmistress.
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (Y4IC1)
Posted by: Jamaica Queens county juror pool at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (sWqPQ)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 07:51 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:51 PM (VMY76)
On an unrelated note, I'm taking off tomorrow and meeting son and grandson at Malvern Hill Battlefield. We're going to tour the Seven Days Campaign battlefields and try to find the location where our ancestor (3d Alabama, Rodes' Brigade) got wounded the first time.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at December 19, 2021 07:51 PM (dcPFn)
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Hey! Welcome home.
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:51 PM (0IeYL)
Weasel, as always, many thanks for an entertaining and informative thread.
I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas!!!!
See you all next Sunday!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 19, 2021 07:52 PM (mcfjc)
How about blow darts? I remember some soiboy at the Centers for Disease Creation was an advocate of that delivery mechanism for the Kill Shot.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 19, 2021 07:53 PM (+LCoQ)
I don't say this often. I am in awe.
Managed 3 credits of "Probabilities and Statistics" in college to get a BA, committed myself to a wealth-path so that I could purchase mathematicians for the mathing at Imperial.
Are you for sale. Answer.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:53 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 07:53 PM (0IeYL)
Also, my local gun store called and said the Rossi is waiting there for me to pick up. Big surprise because they said it would take 4-6 weeks which would have been at least mid January. Can't wait to try it out.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 07:54 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 07:54 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 19, 2021 07:53 PM (+LCoQ)
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Go for the crossbow. Not trying to start anything with the longbow fanatics, but crossbows are like torsion-powered sniper rifles these days.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:55 PM (llXky)
"MG-42"
Oh, wait. That's the answer to the question:
"What does Sharkman want for Christmas?"
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2021 07:55 PM (/7aTk)
I would get a minute or two into the math video, get bored and go look for a different video that's actually about shooting. Probably one with hot chicks and guns.
Posted by: a.moron at December 19, 2021 07:55 PM (F6Xpw)
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 07:55 PM (I5hoQ)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at December 19, 2021 07:55 PM (Iw46i)
Looks like my Ishapore will be arriving at my FFL on Dec 24...fuckin 8 days shipping time. For this I was charged 70+ bucks. Grr.
Price you pay for dealing with auction houses. Still...got my new mag and stripper clips for it and my ammo should be arriving around the same time.
ho, ho, ho
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 07:56 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: CppThis at December 19, 2021 07:56 PM (UewuT)
Posted by: Jamaica Queens county juror pool at December 19, 2021 07:56 PM (zabUw)
Posted by: jesse in dc at December 19, 2021 07:36 PM (kTRt4)
Very nice jesse in dc.
Air guns can give you the time to work on fundamentals and save money from the safety of your back yard.
I have an old Polish Army surplus break action pistol in .177 that is a blast to shoot and is accurate out to about 25 meters. Made in 1975. Adjustable sights too.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 07:56 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 07:55 PM (I5hoQ)
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I think they're going for more than that.
I was amused to see Gun Jeebus do his famed (useless) mud test and jam the thing solid.
After he washed it off, he pronounced it reliable. Uh-huh.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:57 PM (llXky)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 07:57 PM (zofXP)
Holstered.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:57 PM (M3Z2J)
Managed 3 credits of "Probabilities and Statistics" in college to get a BA, committed myself to a wealth-path so that I could purchase mathematicians for the mathing at Imperial.
Are you for sale. Answer.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:53 PM
Dave will work for $0.01 the first day. Each day, you will double his pay, until each square of a chessboard has a stack of pennies on it. Deal?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 07:58 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Jamaica Queens county juror pool at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (sWqPQ)
Sling shot? We have a problem in our back yard as well. I'm too old to man an ambush.
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 07:59 PM (AmoqO)
I've been a good boy this year and have been done some rather unpleasant turns. I would like a suppressed fully automatic MP5 with ten magazines and 25,000 rounds of 9mm parabellum. Thanks Santa!
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at December 19, 2021 07:59 PM (II3Gr)
Hi Sharon,
The sale price is 14.99 a box of 50. That's a few bucks cheaper than I've seen in a while. They still have it available as of five minutes ago.
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 07:59 PM (7EjX1)
The range seems to have a lot of Glocks for rent so could probably try one out.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:00 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2021 07:38 PM (8C7+r)
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Sig Sauer P226. You can thank me later.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:43 PM (llXky)
Yeah, that's on the short list!
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2021 08:00 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 07:59 PM (AmoqO)
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Live trap + rapier.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:00 PM (llXky)
the IBM and RockOla carbines I passed up in the 80's are a lingering source of regret to me.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 19, 2021 08:01 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:01 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 07:58 PM (a3Q+t)
Your offer might be compelling. Compounding (someone whispers in Zod's ear) of the number of pennies. Allow me to (more whispering) that's many pennies. We can afford, but (whispering, a smirk)
You will explain the Riemann Hypothesis as your onboarding.
(Sits back, crosses arms, nods at confederate to carry Zod's handguns)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:02 PM (M3Z2J)
I didn't see that test but I did see a vid of it shot at the range. Barrel rise was barely visible and the slide tech is great for optics. That's why I said wasted because nothing lives up to the hype and that price.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:02 PM (I5hoQ)
.....
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:53 PM
Eight o'clock Monday/Wednesday/Friday class. Managed to pass, barely.
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 08:02 PM (AmoqO)
Yep, she is definitely TXMoMe material!
I look forward to meeting her next year.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
Speaking of the TXMoMe reminded me that the better half told me she requested the last 2 weeks of Oct off so we could a certain event in TX.
Woot!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 08:02 PM (zofXP)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2021 08:00 PM (8C7+r)
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You really can't go wrong with it. I have small, soft, girlish hands, and yet the P226 just feels right.
A couple of years ago some buddies and I did a Wonder Nine elimination contest and damn if that P226 didn't clean house.
You know, before it sank. Damn canoe.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:03 PM (llXky)
Would anyone like to explain the 4473 to her?
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 08:03 PM (Y4IC1)
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Next spring I'm thinking of pieces of sponge and antifreeze on my roof. Dumb ass next door feeds them.
Posted by: dartist at December 19, 2021 08:03 PM (+ya+t)
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Look forward to meeting you both!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:03 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 19, 2021 08:01 PM (IJMH4)
I recall them being ~$175.00 through the CMP back then. They were a lot more later.
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 08:04 PM (AmoqO)
Jesse (formerly) in DC, before the MoMe you mentioned that you had an '03 that you might be looking to rehome. Did you do that? If not, and you're still interested in doing so, drop me a line at the linked address. Thx.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 08:04 PM (nfrXX)
The range seems to have a lot of Glocks for rent so could probably try one out.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:00 PM (Y+l9t)
Glock 19 Gen 4 or 5 should line up, size-wise with the G44. The G44 is much lighter, of course.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Thicc Boi at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (zThcc)
Was cheating off of you. Thanks for being *just smart enough* for both of us.
"If you roll three dice ten times, what is the likelihood that you would kill the person who asked you about somethingsomething math?"
"Show your math."
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Jamaica Queens county juror pool at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (sWqPQ)
Dog and knife. Tell them you identify as Hawaiian and the coon says he is a pig.
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (PYUJA)
great gun, impractical if you are not in combat
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:48 PM (VMY76)
There's a whole passel of "it depends" in there. Body size/conformation. Season, social occasion, and thus dress.
Full size in a shoulder rig works for me a lot of the year.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO
Haha, just tell her to pretend she's buying it for herself. That's what I did.
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 19, 2021 08:06 PM (OX9vb)
G19. The 44 is based on that frame. The G19 will be significantly heavier as the slide is steel as opposed to the 44.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:07 PM (I5hoQ)
Eromero,
Never fired a Kel-Tec of any kind. My 22 mag guns are a Ruger Single-Six convertible, a Heritage Rough Rider convertible, and a Henry classic lever action. (Big fan of Henry rifles.) A Contender barrel for 22 mag would be sweet but I've never seen one.
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 08:07 PM (7EjX1)
great gun, impractical if you are not in combat
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 07:48 PM (VMY76)
There's a whole passel of "it depends" in there. Body size/conformation. Season, social occasion, and thus dress.
Full size in a shoulder rig works for me a lot of the year.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (8C7+r)
I carried a full size Beretta 92 as my concealed carry piece. Nowadays, it's a Glock 21 or XD 45 (or 9mm variants). I carry OWB and wear a coat most places. Works ok, but I also don't sweat printing somewhat. YMMV.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:07 PM (eeRB6)
Concur.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:07 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 19, 2021 07:06 PM (2NHgQ)
Guarantee it's made in China.
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 08:08 PM (GTm9R)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:00 PM (llXky)
I definitely like the rapier part.
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 08:08 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 19, 2021 08:08 PM (IJMH4)
Some day we should have a "woulda, coulda, shoulda" thread. Keep booze handy.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 08:09 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 19, 2021 08:09 PM (rDgjh)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko gender fluid
Best. Parents. Ever.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2021 08:09 PM (/7aTk)
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Look forward to meeting you both!
Posted by: Weasel
Thanks, when it gets closer I'll see about making your clinic. I could use the help.
I'll bring ammo and some other accoutrements which might be appreciated. 9mm, .38 special, .357, and 22lr if you think you might need/use them.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 08:09 PM (zofXP)
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Show us on this doll where the P226 hurt you, because you seem to have a lot if issues with it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:11 PM (llXky)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 08:11 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:11 PM (I5hoQ)
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 08:11 PM (GTm9R)
YAY Gun Thread!
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 07:27 PM (GTm9R)
74 comments before someone made the joke? Come on guys. Be better.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2021 08:12 PM (csEWM)
Not opposed to heavier because it seems to help with recoil. Just checked and range has 3.
G19 GEN5
G19 GEN5 MOS (W/Vortex Venom 3MOA red dot)
G19X
?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:12 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO
Haha, just tell her to pretend she's buying it for herself. That's what I did.
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 19, 2021 08:06 PM (OX9vb)
Are not wimmenz, even 'ettes, known to change their minds...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 08:12 PM (hOUT3)
Some day we should have a "woulda, coulda, shoulda" thread. Keep booze handy.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 08:09 PM (nfrXX) "
OPAA !
*tosses back shot*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 08:12 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2021 08:12 PM (csEWM)
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Are you new here? No one reads the content. This is known.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (I5hoQ)
It was literally delivered today! Haven't tried it yet, but I'll post results when I try it out.
Posted by: Bert G at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (AvN9S)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (zofXP)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (0OP+5)
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Very generous. Thank you!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (llXky)
But we usually look at the pretty pictures. Even more likely for pictures of guns or boobs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2021 08:14 PM (csEWM)
"Show your math."
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM
What's with this rampant cubism? Not all dies have 6 sides.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:14 PM (a3Q+t)
Would love to hear what the Horde comes up with.
Posted by: ballistic at December 19, 2021 07:20 PM (oXNqT)
.50 Beowulf.
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 08:15 PM (GTm9R)
For concealed carry, what about the Sig P228/M11A1? It's the compact variant of the P226, has a 15-round capacity, and is the sidearm of choice for NCIS, Army CID, USAF OSI, and the British SAS.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 08:15 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (I5hoQ)
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Is the Navy still having their destroyers t-boned by containers ships?
Or losing assault ships to dockside fires?
These things may be related.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:15 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:15 PM (0IeYL)
G19 GEN5 MOS (W/Vortex Venom 3MOA red dot)
G19X
?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:12 PM (Y+l9t)
The Gen 5 G19 will be closest to the G44, baring weight/caliber of course.
The MOS will have the red dot of course, other wise same size as other G19's.
The 19x has the grip length of a Glock 17, so longer grip and more rounds, but the slide length of a G19. Sorta a Frankengun, I haven't heard a lot of love for it....nor a lot of hate.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:16 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: Mr Gaga at December 19, 2021 08:16 PM (KiBMU)
The G19x has a longer grip . That allows you to fit the G17 mag flush. I don't think there is any other differences.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:16 PM (I5hoQ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2021 08:14 PM (csEWM)
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But there were no boobs. Hence, everyone rolled past it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:16 PM (llXky)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 08:17 PM (IJMH4)
Managed 3 credits of "Probabilities and Statistics" in college to get a BA, committed myself to a wealth-path so that I could purchase mathematicians for the mathing at Imperial.
Are you for sale. Answer.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 07:53 PM
Dave will work for $0.01 the first day. Each day, you will double his pay, until each square of a chessboard has a stack of pennies on it. Deal?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 07:58 PM (a3Q+t)
That should cover about half the national debt.
Posted by: a.moron at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM (F6Xpw)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3)
So true! I got him that Colt AR15 something or other, and I never thought I wanted an AR15, but I can't wait to shoot that thing.
Christmas is going to be lit.
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM (OX9vb)
I would be more interested in a hypothetical 19L. A G19 frame with a G17 slide.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM (nfrXX)
Damn MAE I've been Amy Schumering you twice now.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM (I5hoQ)
I know the answer! Please call on me!
*waves hand in the air frantically*
Narrator - Hint. It has something to do with a canoe with forward momentum and the distance it will travel as it sinks to the bottom.
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM (Y4IC1)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:19 PM (0OP+5)
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Is there a map to this legendary aqueous depository? I would like to mount an expedition equipped with Neodymium magnets and recover a fortune as it must include some very rare specimens. Is it, perchance, near the reputed elephant graveyard?
Posted by: Ciampino at December 19, 2021 08:19 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:19 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (llXky)
What there's content here as well as comments, why has no one told me?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 08:19 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:14 PM (a3Q+t)
1d20 saving throw. For
(something. Dave in Fl, what is something a D&D character would've needed to save against in 1975 as a Ranger on a 1d20 with a Constitution of 18? Quickly, please...)
Stand by.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:20 PM (M3Z2J)
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Sit on the answer until next week!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:20 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM (I5hoQ)
lol, ain't no thing
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:20 PM (eeRB6)
And why is .38 special so dear?
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Because the ammo guys are making more of the more popular calibers (9mm to be specific) than the ones some of us use.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 08:20 PM (zofXP)
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Weasel!
I'm guessing the math lesson is possibly related to concepts touched on in the shooting clinic?
Posted by: Thicc Boi at December 19, 2021 08:21 PM (zThcc)
Sharon,
I have a G19 Gen 4 and. PPQ.
Rent them both at your range and shoot them side by side. I'm slightly better with the PPQ, but the Glock is my EOTWAWKI pistol.
If you're accustomed to the Glock trigger, you may want to stick with it.
They both break down easily for cleaning and are simple to maintain.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:21 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM (0OP+5) "
j-frame .38 & 4 quick-strips in shoulder rig here ... never took it off after cruising with Mrs to look at all the Christmas lights.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 08:21 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM
Those aren't just hypothetical. A number of individuals have made them. Polymer80 used to offer an 80% in that configuration. It can be done.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:21 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM (OX9vb)
Dear April, with that post, you are now fully qualified to go and burnish your AoS Moronette medals...
before you head to the range!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (hOUT3)
Discount them. They are only as credible as the wind.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (OTzUX)
And why is .38 special so dear?
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Because the ammo guys are making more of the more popular calibers (9mm to be specific) than the ones some of us use.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
And .38 special works in a .357 magnum, so demand.
Posted by: davidt at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (JH1/x)
And why is .38 special so dear?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at December 19, 2021 08:16 PM (KiBMU)
What I hear from the youtubers is that ammo mfgs are mostly focused on the main ammo calibers: 9mm, 5.56, 45 ACP and a few others.
.380 and .38 special are more niche, they make less of it, so cost is higher.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (eeRB6)
Christmas is going to be lit.
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM (OX9vb)
April, you are a truly good spouse. And a Great American.
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (Y4IC1)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (0IeYL)
Too much math for most Horde folks, I get it, but most blue-collar folks do this in their heads without knowing it - ie. the price of eggs each year is done by calculating the elasticity of demand - which is a derivative of time and price thru 1-N, with a price being set as an equation - egg farmers do this in their heads - people outside the egg industry have to do it using these formulas.
Posted by: Boswell at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (5iUNf)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:13 PM
Sigh. 01 September wasn't that long ago.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (a3Q+t)
I did like the Walther PPQ M2 though. First time I felt comfortable shooting a 9 mm.
Funny that I find it easier to shoot the fancy rifles than the 9 mm handguns.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (Y+l9t)
I would be more interested in a hypothetical 19L. A G19 frame with a G17 slide.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 08:18 PM
OddBob, I have a G17 Gen3 with the grip cut down to G19 size, in other words a G19L FrankenGlock.
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:23 PM (0OP+5)
Discount them. They are only as credible as the wind.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (M3Z2J)
Note: if running with footmen tire you, what will horsemen do?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:23 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:19 PM (OTzUX)
Guess that explains 20 rounds of 30-06 for $60.00 as well. Frigging capitalists.
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 08:23 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:24 PM (0IeYL)
Couple weeks. It's been smiles and shooting and comparing observations about stuff. I learn something every time I shoot.
Please have fun. If you're not, then you're doing it wrong.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:24 PM (U2p+3)
Because they're not NATO standard/military issue rounds.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 08:24 PM (NacE+)
I've toyed with getting the M-whatever shoulder rig for the 1911 (the WWII standard issue), but I only "carry" on duty days at the range. Maybe if my favorite WWII repro guy has some "seconds" at a discount, or puts them on sale.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:25 PM (OTzUX)
And why is .38 special so dear?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at December 19, 2021 08:16 PM (KiBMU)
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Profit.
Not long ago, 9mm was going for what, 20 cents a round? Then COVID and crap and you saw 9mm going for 80 cents a round or more.
So every ammo manufacturer thought: "Wow, that's like 400 percent profit. I think I'm going to shift production that that rich vein of pure gold."
As 9mm production catches up with demand, they will shift to other calibers. At least that's what I hope.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:25 PM (llXky)
Rent them both at your range and shoot them side by side. I'm slightly better with the PPQ, but the Glock is my EOTWAWKI pistol.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:21 PM
What nurse isn't telling you is that she's better with a 1911 than either of those.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:25 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 08:23 PM (AmoqO)
Ooof. That's a lot. Look for Privi Partisan, should be about half that online. Ammoseek may help.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:25 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:25 PM (a3Q+t)
She's good with nearly everything.
With any single action pistol, she's great.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:26 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 08:26 PM (zofXP)
I tried the PPQ because I knew that was what you shot. I will definitely try that. What size magazine does the Glock take?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:27 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Socratease at December 19, 2021 08:27 PM (oqnjT)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 07:55 PM (llXky)
And cost just as much. Sheesh!
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 08:27 PM (GTm9R)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:28 PM (OTzUX)
And cost just as much. Sheesh!
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 08:27 PM (GTm9R)
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At least you can re-use the ammo!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:28 PM (llXky)
Nobody needs that many different calibers to choose from. Two or three should be enough for anyone.
Posted by: Bernie S. at December 19, 2021 08:28 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Boswell at December 19, 2021 08:22 PM (5iUNf)
Sorry - I left off the other variable, besides price, which is demand - the volume or quantity of a product sole over 1-N ....
Posted by: Boswell at December 19, 2021 08:29 PM (5iUNf)
Posted by: Boswell at December 19, 2021 08:29 PM (5iUNf)
Posted by: Boswell at December 19, 2021 08:29 PM (5iUNf)
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*Rolls Zod's saving throw vs wit. Applies -3 Charisma modifier.*
Yep, you dropped him.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:31 PM (llXky)
The latter will toy with the former. For amusement.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:31 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:31 PM (Y+l9t)
Same as last week. But with 6" of fresh snow.
Got caught up on a summer's worth of brass prepping, instead. I was happy to discover that I have many more prepped and primed handgun cases than I remembered.
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 08:31 PM (Y4IC1)
Posted by: dartist at December 19, 2021 08:03 PM (+ya+t)
You're talking about the politicians, right?
'Cause don't blame the squirrels for your 2A rights being infringed.
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 08:31 PM (GTm9R)
He's only stunned and won't comment for d4 rounds.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:32 PM (llXky)
If a Colt AR-15 is fun, you've got to get an M203 grenade launcher from LMT. Most Colt AR-15s come w/ the "government cut" on the barrel in front of the front sights to accommodate mounting the M203. Lewis Machine Tool has them for sale. Prices are steep, but in reach. Of course, there's that ATF paperwork for a "Destructive Device," but wouldn't it be cool to say "Say hello to my little friend" before squeezing off a shot?
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 08:32 PM (NacE+)
Something I'm trying to beat into the heads of some friends who want my help gunning up before they head off to their multi-year (I doubt it will go that long) journey around North America with a fancy new trailer.
They're not "shooters", in the sense of the hobbyists and serious geeks here. They just want something for, you know. I'm still convinced best option is a 12-ga pump (or 20 ga if she isn't comfortable with the 12). Also, gun laws and b.s. as you travel around the US.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:32 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: MkY at December 19, 2021 08:33 PM (cPGH3)
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 08:33 PM (7EjX1)
The latter will toy with the former. For amusement.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:31 PM (M3Z2J)
Correct answer, more points added to Zod.
Hope you are well, as well.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:33 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:31 PM (M3Z2J)
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Oh yeah, he has 40 percent Moron resistance. Obviously made that roll.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:33 PM (llXky)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:34 PM (OTzUX)
I tried the PPQ because I knew that was what you shot. I will definitely try that. What size magazine does the Glock take?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at
15 plus one in the chamber if you wish. You will want a speed loader as the last 5 rounds are hard on the hands. And that's with both the Glock and the PPQ.
If you have the Glock 44 it makes more sense to stick with Glock as you can train with the cheaper .22 ammo on the same frame and trigger as the 9mm.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:34 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:27 PM (Y+l9t)
The Glock 48 may be a better choice for you . Only disadvantage for me personally is it's a single stack and not compatible with my Glock mag carbines.
It has a slimmer handle but it's lighter than the G19. It's even smaller than the G19 though the barrel is longer. It's getting rave reviews.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (I5hoQ)
On the pistola side of things, I've been sticking with the 92FS and I think I actually have the recoil mitigation issue sorted out. At the very least, the sight picture is back before I'm ready to pull the trigger again so next up is working on faster controlled trigger manipulation.
Posted by: Thicc Boi at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (zThcc)
Anyway, heard a frigging commercial for a gun shop on the car radio today. Man, I've got to get moved here ASAP from LA!
Tomorrow I'm gonna go look at vacant land for sale and go talk to the county about the rules for putting one of those little mini-houses on one.
Great thread.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (/7aTk)
Posted by: Boswell at December 19, 2021 08:29 PM
l-i-c-k
l-c-k if you're Welsh.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:31 PM (llXky)
(Frowns. Retrieves dice into Crown Royal bag, gathers up graph-paper into the Trapper-Keeper, grabs the unopened two-liter Pepsi, the Cool Ranch Doritos, and the modest stack of Playboys (the one with Mary Ellen from 'The Waltons' in it, you know, the good one) and walks home in the dark, defiant. Practices curse words.)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (M3Z2J)
Darn, JTB, next time you venture over this way, let me know!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:36 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:36 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 19, 2021 07:22 PM (Dc2NZ)
Yes.
Posted by: Santa at December 19, 2021 08:37 PM (llON8)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM
A tool is only as good as its operator.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:37 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:37 PM (Y+l9t)
The Oliva Cain Daytona was a bit disappointing. Not bad, but nothing special. Most likely me, but I rarely get more than some wood notes, and tobacco, as far as flavor, from most sticks. So far only a few maduros (and the Oliva Melanios) have registered more on my very unsophistimicated palate.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:38 PM (OTzUX)
l-c-k if you're Welsh.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (a3Q+t)
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Nope, it's l-l-c-k if you're Welsh.
Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:38 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:27 PM (Y+l9t)
The Glock 48 may be a better choice for you . Only disadvantage for me personally is it's a single stack and not compatible with my Glock mag carbines.
It has a slimmer handle but it's lighter than the G19. It's even smaller than the G19 though the barrel is longer. It's getting rave reviews.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM
ShieldArms makes a 15 round (yes fifteen) mag for the G48, fits flush and well, it just fits.
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:38 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 08:25 PM (eeRB6)
Thanks. I have enough stuff to reload a bunch but some places don't like you to shoot re-loads, and I'm saving my factory M-1 rounds.
The only "Odd" caliber rounds I have a need for are the Krag 30-40. I can buy the dies for less than I can by the rounds.
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 08:38 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: J
that should get you half way there
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 08:38 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:32 PM (llXky)
"He's not the coolest DM, is he?"
(Heads nod)
"The whole thing where he's looking at the Players Manual and...um, some of the pages are...stuck."
(Heads nod)
"My brother has this cool Heathkit computer mainframe. Also, Mom has a bottle of Kahlua hidden behind the receiver."
(Heads nod)
"The Kahlua. And fill it with...coffee. And then, uhh, Fridays."
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:39 PM (M3Z2J)
Sharon, if you'd like to try a 1911, I can bring mine on our next trip to ESS. Both are full size models in .45ACP, of course. The 230 grain FMJ round's recoil is overrated, in my opinion.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 08:40 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 19, 2021 08:40 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (M3Z2J)
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Lol.
You're showing you're age, though. 'The Waltons'?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:40 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:35 PM (a3Q+t)
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Nope, it's l-l-c-k if you're Welsh.
Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:38 PM (llXky)
I was about to say it could not be "l-c-k", because it didn't have enough consonants!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 08:40 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: S
just get the sig 365 and be happy with it,
it is the glock 19 of subcompacts
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 08:40 PM (VMY76)
And iron sights are all I have. Some day I'll probably get some glass or one a them fancy colored dot contraptions, but trying to stick with irons. (I don't hunt or do long-range shooting)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:40 PM (OTzUX)
Well, looks like I have something to look for for next Christmas!
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 19, 2021 08:41 PM (OX9vb)
Rep. Eric Swalwell
Dude your fuck buddy brought us the WhuFlu. STFU
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 19, 2021 08:42 PM (yrol0)
Good evening Hrothgar,
These visits are usually not planned. Just happened to run some unexpected errands out that way.
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 08:42 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 08:40 PM (hOUT3)
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Great minds think alike.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Llwddd at December 19, 2021 08:42 PM (llXky)
TL;DR Spider-Man finally grows up
Posted by: Max Power at December 19, 2021 08:42 PM (QCc6B)
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 19, 2021 08:42 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 19, 2021 08:42 PM (Agr8U)
Posted by: pilsnerfan at December 19, 2021 08:43 PM (CHorZ)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:43 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:38 PM (0OP+5)
That breaks the tie with the G19 as strictly a carry gun. But again I always want to carry what's compatible with my carbines.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:43 PM (I5hoQ)
Rep. Eric Swalwell
Tell ya what, Eric. I'll wear a mask if you wear an XXL butt plug.
Posted by: Bernie S. at December 19, 2021 08:44 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:40 PM (llXky)
Yes. And your punctuation sucks.
You expected extra "wit-credit." There is none in this post.
Kill yourself. Be artistic.
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:44 PM (M3Z2J)
Rhomboid, they're out there, but they're definitely not as cheap as they used to be. Same story for a lot of gun food items, I'm afraid. Since the training rounds have no explosive payload, they don't fall into the "Destructive Device" ATF category.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 08:44 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 08:44 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:45 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: pilsnerfan
That's pretty darn cool!
Congratulations on your retirement too!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:45 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 08:45 PM (Y4IC1)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:45 PM (M3Z2J)
Did some steel shootin' after closing with the CZ-83.
We were able to help a newbie get his AR red dot sighted in, which was nice. Three of us guided him through the process and spotted for him. A new fan of the range was created.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:46 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:46 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 19, 2021 08:46 PM (zofXP)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:44 PM (M3Z2J)
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As a true artist, I laugh at your slavish devotion to grammar conventions.
I shall call you zod, because you are unworthy of capital letters.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:47 PM (llXky)
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 08:47 PM (Yl3Ht)
Sorry. I meant to add that I'll give a heads up if we know ahead of time. I'm still not too mobile for now.
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 08:47 PM (7EjX1)
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I know... It's such bullshit. I tried to "accidentally" kill a whole room full of attorneys during this whole personal injury/wrongful death case, and all I got was one stinkin' paralegal. The gun industry in the country has a lot to answer for.
Posted by: Alec B at December 19, 2021 08:47 PM (2ABQr)
for my 0.02 you are spot-on ... I am thinking of "my mom's gun" (bought for her after a memorable group photo of all the fambly&friends out at the country place holding guns, where she didn't have her own & was holding someone else's pistol ... she got on Papa Eez & ... )
which was a Winchester 20 ga. with long barrel & a multitude of choke inserts ... so very vanilla & non-tacti-cool it could make your teeth hurt ... but even when she was wheelchair-bound & half-blind that shotgun was at her side ...
so yeah, 20 ga. pump gets my wholehearted vote. enough to do whatever is required, justincase, without getting all icky and weaponofwar-ish ... and several boxes of assorted shells.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 08:48 PM (IJMH4)
My wish list is still:
.50 Beowulf upper
.45 1911
20ga Shockwave
.357 revolver (not a snubby)
.50 muzzleloader (and primers/percussion caps)
and ammo of any sort ('cause I can sell what I don't have guns for)
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 08:48 PM (GTm9R)
Hmmm, dumbfucks, maybe you got it from the "vax"?
Lots pf protein spikes in that mRNA.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2021 08:48 PM (/7aTk)
Will have to study that geometry video.
Thanks for all the content.
Fed my Beretta Bobcat some CCI ammo, and it is a lot better. It was not working at all with other ammo. Still not 100%. But I am hopeful I am on the right track. I am waiting on some ordered CCI Stinger ammo, which is supposedly the perfect round.
Just back from the store, I got some very fine grit sandpaper (1200grit), which some people feel can help, if applied to the right spots (ex. feeding ramp). But which another guy said did not help.
I wrote to Beretta. They wrote back that they would be in touch. But they have not been in touch. Patience.
Posted by: MikeM at December 19, 2021 08:48 PM (X+eRS)
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Howdy and welcome! Congratulations on your retirement. Hope you'll share a report on the class!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:48 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:48 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 08:49 PM (Yl3Ht)
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 08:47 PM (Yl3Ht)
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Yet we cannot deny that weight has some advantages in terms of accuracy. There's a reason Walther started making all-steel PPQs.
It's a tradeoff, and depending on your rig and circumstances, it can make sense.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:50 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 19, 2021 08:42 PM
Nope, but got my name on the list for the first one in town.
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:50 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: ZOD at December 19, 2021 08:44 PM (M3Z2J)
Hey. Wait a minute.
Mary Ellen was in playboy?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2021 08:51 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:51 PM (0IeYL)
I'm making an effort to do the furrin language thing (documentaries and other videos, russki and kraut).
I had hoped to weasel out, so to speak, of the math side. But now I have no excuse.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:52 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 08:52 PM (Yl3Ht)
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What has been debunked is that a refrigerator can provide cover from a shotgun shooting buckshot.
Elevator doors though provide pretty good cover.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:52 PM (I5hoQ)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 08:52 PM (OTzUX)
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Thanks and same for you!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:53 PM (0IeYL)
Please give every Horde Member 10,000 rounds of their favorite ammunition.. Every single on has been gooder than good this past year.
As for bad old me, I won't ask for much this year. Just a mint Johnson 1941 rifle, a mint Mauser C96 Broomhandle chambered in 7.65 x 21 Parabellum, a mint Luger P08 chambered in 9 x 19 Parabellum, and a 75 mm pack howitzer with 5,000 rounds HE.
Merry Christmas to you, Mrs Claus, the Elves, and the Reindeer!
Gref
;-)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 08:53 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:54 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 08:42 PM (7EjX1)
No problem, but if you are ever in that general area I am not that far away.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 08:54 PM (hOUT3)
I've removed a lot of factory roughness, but not worn away any of the metal. Makes a great difference on feed ramps.
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 08:54 PM (Y4IC1)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 08:53 PM (AMIL/)
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Don't forget the matching holster/stock.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:54 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Norman Spiny at December 19, 2021 08:55 PM (1jXXF)
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 08:55 PM (Yl3Ht)
I am sure that Santa has a special spot in his heart for modest men such as yourself!
:-)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 08:55 PM (hOUT3)
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Good luck! I'll give everyone a while to give their answers next week, then post the solution a little later in the thread.
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 08:56 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 19, 2021 08:56 PM (Xrfse)
Rhomboid, I don't have "easy access" to this stuff. It comes from:
1) having more $$ than sense
2) being in the right place at the right time at the LGS and gun shows
3) getting to the LGS and special ordering things as soon as they come out
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 08:56 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 08:52 PM
+1, particularly the X version.
And the cool thing w/P320s (& P365s) is the trigger mechanism is the registered part. You can buy grip modules, slides, etc. relatively cheaply, so you can have a compact, full-size, and some variations in between, and swap the FCM between them as needed/desired. Many parts, one gun.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:57 PM (a3Q+t)
Works a treat though for nukes. I saw that on a movie. Must be true.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2021 08:57 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 08:57 PM (Y+l9t)
J&G Sales in Prescott, AZ has some interesting items on their website: a Plum Crazy complete AR-15 lower with Gen II imprrovements and an M4 stock for $119.95, and a Hertiage Rough Rider, 6.5" barrell, .22 and .22Mag cylinders, with coconole grips, for $169.95.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2021 08:57 PM (P3gRi)
What has been debunked is that a refrigerator can provide cover from a shotgun shooting buckshot.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 19, 2021 08:52 PM (I5hoQ)
But works fine if you're getting nuked. Saw it in a documentary.
Posted by: a.moron at December 19, 2021 08:58 PM (F6Xpw)
Posted by: Norman Spiny at December 19, 2021 08:55 PM (1jXXF)
The word is the new online Form 4's are supposed to cut the wait times to 120 days with a goal of 90 days by the end of 2022.
We shall see....we shall see...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 08:58 PM (R/m4+)
Mary Ellen was in playboy?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2021 08:51 PM
If you had misspent your youth, you'd know.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 08:59 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: RI Red
Much appreciated. I will try that first. And will be careful if I go to level 2.
Posted by: MikeM at December 19, 2021 09:00 PM (X+eRS)
My mind is going in my old age.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2021 09:01 PM (/7aTk)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 08:53 PM (AMIL/)
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Don't forget the matching holster/stock.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:54 PM (llXky) "
saw that go by at a local shop earlier this year, for a few 100$ moar than the fund held at the time ... even came with a few hundred rounds of ammo ... when I showed up with the cash it was gone. yes, had the stock/holster. everything.
SAD !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:01 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:46 PM (U2p+3)
Note to all 'ettes. Nurse speaks the truth.
A guaranteed great stocking stuffer for your own Moron would be a concealed carry sports bra. To yourself. For modeling. After range time.
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 09:01 PM (Y4IC1)
My mind is going in my old age.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2021 09:01 PM (/7aTk)
Punky Brewster.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 19, 2021 09:01 PM (6FeV1)
My mind is going in my old age.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2021 09:01 PM (/7aTk)
The horrible 'Indian Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 19, 2021 09:02 PM (eeRB6)
If you ever go into a gunsmith's shop and see a Dremel, leave. It's not so much that he shouldn't have one, it's that he should have the decency to hide it from customers.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 09:03 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:46 PM
You're not new here. You know that the 'rons are far too gentlemanly to notice, much less comment, on something like that.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 09:04 PM (a3Q+t)
My mind is going in my old age.
indiana jones crystal skulls thingy?
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 09:04 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 09:04 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 09:05 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Oh bs.
Notice the comments slowed down?
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 09:05 PM (U2p+3)
SAD !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:01 PM (IJMH4)
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There is (or was) a Colt Police Positive on Da Broker in beautiful condition in .32 Long and it comes with ammo.
But it is just beyond my reach. Great sorrow.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 09:07 PM (llXky)
Posted by: S
sig 320, different hand soze modules different sizes of everything
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 19, 2021 09:07 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 08:46 PM
You're not new here. You know that the 'rons are far too gentlemanly to notice, much less comment, on something like that.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 19, 2021 09:04 PM (a3Q+t)
Duncanthrax, we are so gentlemanly, I bet we wouldn't comment if Weasel had a Gun Thread spread with a pictorial on 'ettes and their gunderwear (tm).
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 09:08 PM (Y4IC1)
However, I think he should have added a link to the lady teacher chanting "SOHCAHTOA", "SOHCAHTOA", "SOHCAHTOA" to her students for their trigonometry lesson.
The Leftist "journalism" majors instantly labelled her a horrible bigot - because they had absolutely zero idea about the topic of her lesson!
That video would definitely work as Troll-B-Gone for the gun thread.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 19, 2021 07:19 PM (tkyK5)
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I was thinking more along the lines of a Photoshopped Joker from "Full Metal Jacket," with "SOHCAHTOA" on his helmet instead of "BORN TO KILL."
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 19, 2021 09:08 PM (lNHqD)
Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 19, 2021 09:09 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2021 09:09 PM (/7aTk)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 09:09 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 08:53 PM (AMIL/)
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Don't forget the matching holster/stock.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 08:54 PM (llXky)
saw that go by at a local shop earlier this year, for a few 100$ moar than the fund held at the time ... even came with a few hundred rounds of ammo ... when I showed up with the cash it was gone. yes, had the stock/holster. everything.
SAD !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:01 PM (IJMH4)
A Horde member from Florida had one at the 2019 TxMoMe and let anyone who wanted shoot it. To my chagrin I cannot recall the gentleman's nic. The gun was sweet!
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 09:10 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 09:05 PM (AMIL/)
Ouch! Those rifles are getting rarer by the minute.
There is one, just one, on GunChoker for $3500.00 with 4 days to go.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 09:10 PM (R/m4+)
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Nite and Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:11 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 09:12 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 09:10 PM (AMIL/)
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They are a hoot, no question.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 09:13 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 09:05 PM (AMIL/)
Ouch! Those rifles are getting rarer by the minute.
There is one, just one, on GunChoker for $3500.00 with 4 days to go.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 09:10 PM (R/m4+)
I could have bought the private sale one for less than $2000. I cannot recall the exact asking price. Ow, ow, ow!
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 09:14 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 09:14 PM (OTzUX)
Thanks again, Weasel! I (finally) sent you my range report. Hopefully it will be of some use.
Until next week! Merry Christmas everyone!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2021 09:15 PM (llXky)
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Got it AHL, thank you! Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:15 PM (0IeYL)
That said, lead shot is getting harder and harder to find. I have a decent supply of #6, which is what I use for squirrels, and a bit of #7.5 from when I still bothered handloading for trap, but none of the shops around here ever have much shot in stock. I do, however, have plenty of lead. Anybody here ever try dripping your own shot? I've been watching some vids on the Tube and I think it might be doable.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 19, 2021 09:16 PM (lNHqD)
yes, s&w 637 ... airweight Chief's ... cocobolo knockoff hogue's.
I carry it in a generic one-size-fits-all shoulder-rig from an army-surplus store which will fit just about anything except the 629 .44 snubbie. the spare mag pouches on the other side hold 2 quick0strips each.
I know that it's not quite the fashionable carry piece in These Troubled Times, but we have worked together so long that I know that I can put all 5 where they need to be within Tueller drill range and under most any condition, and really, out here in the cows&corn whatthehell do I need with a lot more ? when I go to madison or milwaukee I stagger under the weight of large caliber armament.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:19 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 09:19 PM (NacE+)
That would be Panhandler who seemed to have gone silent not too long after that MoMe. PH, if you're out there, give us a shout.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 09:22 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 09:22 PM (NacE+)
Here's hoping all of the AOS family receive their wished-for gun gift under the tree. I expect in a week we will hear all about them.
Merry Christmas!
Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at December 19, 2021 09:23 PM (Y4IC1)
Pennsytucky,
I haven't hunted in decades but my last time was with the 12 gauge CVA SxS, open choke. That thing did the job. I found number 6 shot worked fine for squirrels and upland game birds. And yeah, it takes an eternity to reload both barrels. At least it seemed that way in the field.
Good luck in the woods.
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 09:23 PM (7EjX1)
How well is that going to work for on line ammo sales? I have an idea.
I hate this place. I sure hope the court throws out the FOID altogether.
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How does that affect visiting a neighboring State and buying there?
When eventually TSHTF it will be fun lining up all the State politicians according to who conserved and who abrogated our Constitutional Rights. Enough said.
Posted by: Ciampino at December 19, 2021 09:23 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 09:12 PM (0OP+5)
Gambling is bad for the soul, so I suggest you forward that ticket to me before the drawing!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 09:24 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:25 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 09:25 PM (0OP+5)
And the check will get logged somewhere so the state will be able to track your every purchase, no matter how small, for time immemorial.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 09:26 PM (nfrXX)
May Weasel's stocking sag like Peolsi's tits, under the weight of countless rounds of ammo delivered by Santa's Ammo Elves.
And each and every one of you be blessed with Peace, Joy, Happiness and to not Shoot Your Eye Out. /redryder
Ho! Ho! Ho! Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 19, 2021 09:26 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: ZOD
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Of course. I do math, which oddly doesn't seem to translate into money
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 19, 2021 09:26 PM (5p7BC)
Posted by: Ciampino at December 19, 2021 09:23 PM (qfLjt)
Sadly, that's NOT who we are...
But we better be thinking like that or very soon we will not be able to speak (or think).
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 09:26 PM (hOUT3)
Merry Christmas and thanks for such a great thread.
Weasel, our best to the Mrs. and the furry menagerie.
Posted by: JTB at December 19, 2021 09:27 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2021 09:27 PM (BtQKn)
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My pleasure, amigo. Merry Christmas to you and the missus!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:27 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 19, 2021 09:16 PM (lNHqD)
I poured for West Coast Shot for a couple of years. It's an art form. The key is the tower and good pans. I used to do 40,000#s a day 4 days a week in the 90's, in early 2004 when I went back again we were doing 20,000 3 days a week. Place closed soon after that. I often pondered trying it myself but I would think without the ability to do a large run and get thing good and hot you probably would only make a few decent pieces and a mess.
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 09:27 PM (J83z8)
Thank You!
I really appreciate you guys and gals choosing to spend part of your weekend here with your ol' pal Weasel. Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:29 PM (0IeYL)
& to all of the Horde, including lurkers !
howza bout a nother Postal Match one o' these days ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:30 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 09:30 PM (nfrXX)
Anyway, heard a frigging commercial for a gun shop on the car radio today. Man, I've got to get moved here ASAP from LA!
I hear gun shop ads on the radio all the time here in IN but it's colder than LA or FL.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2021 09:30 PM (63Dwl)
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Thank you JTB! A very Merry Christmas to you and the missus!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:30 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 19, 2021 09:30 PM (UHVv4)
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Ha! Thank you brother! Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:31 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:31 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 09:31 PM (hOUT3)
That would be small pox then, wouldn't it? I denounce myself.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 19, 2021 09:31 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Javems at December 19, 2021 09:32 PM (AmoqO)
I poured for West Coast Shot for a couple of years. It's an art form. The key is the tower and good pans. I used to do 40,000#s a day 4 days a week in the 90's, in early 2004 when I went back again we were doing 20,000 3 days a week. Place closed soon after that. I often pondered trying it myself but I would think without the ability to do a large run and get thing good and hot you probably would only make a few decent pieces and a mess.
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 09:27 PM (J83z
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That would have been a fascinating job!
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 19, 2021 09:32 PM (lNHqD)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:25 PM (IJMH4)
Machine guns....around 1981 or 82.
You would be on easy street.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 09:33 PM (R/m4+)
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Thank you, Hrothgar. My pleasure.
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:33 PM (0IeYL)
How about blow darts? I remember some soiboy at the Centers for Disease Creation was an advocate of that delivery mechanism for the Kill Shot.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 19, 2021 07:53 PM (+LCoQ)
Blow darts are a hoot to shoot! Go to www.coldsteel.com and look for the big bore kit, or go to slockmaster.com and look there. They are great fun to shoot in the house and you can aim them like a pool cue, then just adjust for the drop. A stack of magazines taped or pegged to a square of plywood makes for a great target - inside or out.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 19, 2021 09:33 PM (hrRsI)
You would be on easy street.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 09:33 PM (R/m4+)
Come on, who in the USA would ever need a machine gun...
Oh wait
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 09:34 PM (hOUT3)
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Happy to do it, sock rat!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:34 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * 21rst century schizoid hominid at December 19, 2021 09:34 PM (4u5Hq)
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Thanks and same to you!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:36 PM (0IeYL)
Take a look at the Colt Python's MSRP:
1955 (introduced): $125 (Royal Blue)
1970: $190 (Royal Blue), $210 (nickel)
1985: $688 (Royal Blue), $787 (bright stainless)
2002 (final year in Colt catalog): $1150 (all finishes)
Now check what prices are on-line from any seller. That rate of appreciation is a darn sight better than a bunch of alternatives.
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 09:36 PM (NacE+)
in the late 80's I centrifugal-cast "pewter" belt buckles for a few weeks and got through maybe 200 pounds in a day.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:36 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 19, 2021 09:32 PM (lNHqD)
It was. I made 9 shot that brought home gold at the Olympics. I drive past the tower every day now on my way to work and get all nostalgic. I left my deep sea fishing weight molds up there, somday I'll stop and climb it and get them back.
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 09:37 PM (J83z8)
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 09:39 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: screaming in digital at December 19, 2021 09:39 PM (kTRt4)
Posted by: Ed L at December 19, 2021 09:36 PM (NacE+)
Rethinks investment strategy...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 19, 2021 09:39 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:39 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Gref at December 19, 2021 09:40 PM (AMIL/)
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Nite Ed L! Thanks again and a Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:40 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: screaming in digital at December 19, 2021 09:39 PM (kTRt4)
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Thank you SiD. Wishing you and Jesse the best Christmas ever,
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:41 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:41 PM (IJMH4)
in the late 80's I centrifugal-cast "pewter" belt buckles for a few weeks and got through maybe 200 pounds in a day.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:36 PM (IJMH4)
We did burn up some gas. Four 3 inch burners in the main pot on the ground and 2 in the tower. Somewhere around 750°f at all times. Hotter for small shot.
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 09:42 PM (J83z8)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 19, 2021 09:42 PM (vBO1h)
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Absolutely my pleasure, Gref. I look forward to seeing you and doing some shooting each year. Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:42 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Jamaica Queens county juror pool at December 19, 2021 07:50 PM (sWqPQ)
Dog and knife. Tell them you identify as Hawaiian and the coon says he is a pig.
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at December 19, 2021 08:05 PM (PYUJA)
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Tell them you identify as Cro-Magnon and use an atlatl. They dig that tribal stuff.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 19, 2021 09:42 PM (lNHqD)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 19, 2021 09:43 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Just sayin' at December 19, 2021 09:43 PM (vcAq2)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:43 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 19, 2021 09:43 PM (nxdel)
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Howdy Jewells! Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:43 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 09:44 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: whig at December 19, 2021 09:45 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 09:14 PM (OTzUX)
Pfft. I can get good Rieslings for less than $12. At the grocery store.
Oh. Wait......
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 09:46 PM (GTm9R)
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:46 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 19, 2021 09:47 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 09:47 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:47 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 09:37 PM (J83z
Shot towers have to be pretty doggone tall, don't they? As I understand it, the shot droplets have to freeze solid while falling therough the air, before they hit the water bath.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2021 09:48 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:48 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 09:48 PM (OTzUX)
Tomorrow after work I'll give it a go.
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 09:49 PM (J83z8)
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Happy to do it rhomboid. Merry Christmas to you too!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:49 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Weasel
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This will be a special one for sure!
J will be meeting my family for the first time. He may need his hearing protection for some of them...
Posted by: screaming in digital at December 19, 2021 09:50 PM (kTRt4)
I really have been in my cave too long.
Next you'll tell me that they have phones with computers in them.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 09:50 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2021 09:52 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:54 PM (IJMH4)
Nurse, we are both doing great, getting ready for a yuge road trip to see my family.
Posted by: screaming in digital at December 19, 2021 09:54 PM (kTRt4)
Just got my new replacement printer rocking out good prints, and started doing YouTube research. If you haven't seen the channel, I recommend Print, Shoot, Repeat.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at December 19, 2021 09:54 PM (SrP94)
Shot towers have to be pretty doggone tall, don't they? As I understand it, the shot droplets have to freeze solid while falling therough the air, before they hit the water bath.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2021 09:48 PM (P3gRi)
Ours is/was 184 feet from the bottom of the pans to the top of the water. 8 shot is cool about 10 feet out at any temp but 4 shot will "dust" unless it's about 20 degrees out. We managed 2 shot for about an hour once at -6.
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 09:55 PM (J83z8)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 19, 2021 09:44 PM (R/m4+)
30-40 in the gulag?
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 09:56 PM (GTm9R)
Posted by: screaming in digital at December 19, 2021 09:50 PM (kTRt4)
I have a soon-to-be nephew who may be the loudest person on earth.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2021 09:57 PM (Q9lwr)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 19, 2021 09:57 PM (Agr8U)
What words I say or time of day it is
'Cause it's almost the ONT
Posted by: mindful webworker - son of a gun at December 19, 2021 09:58 PM (mf0wg)
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Thanks, S'puppy! Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 09:59 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 10:00 PM (GTm9R)
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2021 10:00 PM (GTm9R)
From the Weasel household to yours, I hope you have a very Merry Christmas! See you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 10:00 PM (0IeYL)
and when we have to reconstruct Western Civ from scratch it will come in handy, amirite ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 10:01 PM (IJMH4)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2021 10:02 PM (P3gRi)
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How does that affect visiting a neighboring State and buying there?
Posted by: Ciampino at December 19, 2021 09:23 PM (qfLjt)
Don't know what the Illinois Nazis think about it, but in Iowa, in person, you buy whatever ammo you want, no ID, unless you look underage.
Posted by: a.moron at December 19, 2021 10:06 PM (F6Xpw)
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Truly my pleasure. Merry Christmas, AOP!
Posted by: Weasel at December 19, 2021 10:07 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 19, 2021 10:07 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 19, 2021 10:08 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 19, 2021 10:08 PM (yQpMk)
I think he was please.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 19, 2021 10:10 PM (yQpMk)
oh what fun
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 19, 2021 09:47 PM (IJMH4)
Cable/rail system and cast iron carbon sealed pumps. We moved it like water. Whole system for pouring is like a kitchen faucet. Faster fill makes smaller shot. It was pretty hairball. Fun as hell.
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 10:12 PM (J83z8)
Nope, but got my name on the list for the first one in town.
Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2021 08:50 PM (0OP+5
Me too, where I am. No idea how fast they are running the production lines. Was the cover gun on the latest NRA mag I just got. Yet another great review.
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 19, 2021 10:13 PM (3/XaG)
Tomorrow after work I'll give it a go.
Posted by: Reforger at December 19, 2021 09:49 PM (J83z
color me extremely jealous. congrats!
Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 19, 2021 10:16 PM (hrRsI)
Corks guns were fun too. When the corks ran out cylinders of lawn dirt worked pretty well.
Remington's 550 though was my favorite.
Posted by: 11B40 at December 19, 2021 10:16 PM (uuklp)
Posted by: Lrrr at December 19, 2021 11:12 PM (WXKWg)
http://tankdestroyer.net/things/manuals
Also some other interesting stuff if you scroll down (including a manual for a 37mm cannon... ;-)
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