Teachers In California Decide That Working Five Days a Week Is Too Hard, and Give Themselves One Day A Week Off

Well, one day a week of "remote learning," sitting on their asses at home, which is what parents do not want, but which teachers do want.

And when parents complain, teachers tell parents to "step up" and do the hard work of teaching.

This is amazing.

I keep wondering what the breaking point is.

I'm wondering if there is a breaking point at all.

Do they even have to show up, ever?

Can we just admit that the "teaching occupation" is just a welfare program for a fairly low-educated, low-ambition bunch?

Remember when teachers unions around the country insisted they were eager to reopen schools but only once it could be done safely? Unions gave all sorts of excuses. First it was that not all teachers had been vaccinated. Then it was that schools lacked sufficient ventilation. Then it was that not all students had been vaccinated. The shifting list of demands had only one clear goal: Keep teachers (and students) out of classrooms for as long as possible. Even when local authorities tried to twist their arms, they refused to return.

And as the evidence piled up that remote learning wasn’t working for a large number of students, unions simply ignored or denied it. Cecily Myart-Cruz, president of the LA Teacher’s Union, claimed no learning loss had taken place during the 18 months LA schools were closed. “Our kids didn’t lose anything. It’s OK that our babies may not have learned all their times tables…They know the difference between a riot and a protest,” she said. Some unions claimed the push to get teachers back to classrooms was racist.

Fortunately, all of that is behind us now. Or maybe not. Today the NY Times reports that schools are extending time off and resorting to one day a week (or a month) as remote learning only...


As John Sexton reports, the teachers -- who clearly just wanted to stop working -- have given up using covid as an excuse to stop working, and are now offering the excuse that the "battles" over them taking time off during covid, as well as arguments about CRT, is just "too much" for them, and they need some Mental Health Days.

Sexton quotes this posting from a "veteran public school teacher" who encourages teachers to basically take as much time as they need to get their heads together, and, if parents don't like it, well then: Parents can teach their kids.

Veteran public school teacher here. I am hearing the same experiences over and over from my former colleagues (and on several private teacher-only message boards): rude parents, combative students, undermining administrators, useless curriculum, stagnant wages, total burnout. Some of their personal stories from the classroom this year would make your toes curl. We understand this is a profession that has its ups and downs, but the near-constant abuse and the general consensus for years that teachers are responsible for all of the ills of society have finally taken their toll. To the teachers in the trenches: I see you, and I support you. I know the invisible load you carry and the unseen work you do. If virtual Fridays help to make your life and mental health better, it's time for parents to step up and do their part.

Well, parents thought they were doing their part by paying people to teach their children.

If you're not willing to do that job, they can pay other people to teach their children, and fire your lazy, uneducated, ignorant asses.

This is incredible.

As Sexton says: Don't expect this to stop in LA. Once word gets out that this is going on in LA and teachers are getting away with it, teachers across the country will begin doing this.

Teachers have decided they are part of the "Laptop Class" they are so envious of, the upper middle class that can do almost all of their work remotely through a computer and via zoom meetings, and being envious of higher-status people, they've decided to convert teaching into a "Laptop Class" occupation against the wills of parents.

They're not that -- they're workers at a modest middle-class civil service job -- but they conceive of themselves as part of the Upper Middle Learned Classes and they're determined to gain both the salaries and non-pecuniary benefits that attend to those classes.

And if that's inconvenient for parents, who will have to make arrangements for someone to watch their children during school hours -- why they'll just have to "step up" then, won't they?

More at Sexton's link. And do hit it. I've taken so much from him today! But most of the quotes are back there, including more quotes from entitled teachers who obviously hate parents -- and children, too.

7 From CNBC-
Virtual school resulted in 'significant' academic learning loss, study finds
Posted by: redridinghood

But they're just All About the Kids, you know.

That's all they care about -- The Kids.

Posted by: Ace at 05:55 PM




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1 Ore days off than fedgov . . .

Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 08, 2021 05:55 PM (YMrAv)

2 First!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2021 05:55 PM (z5Vrg)

3
Just a wacky guess: do these "teachers" want their day off to be either a Monday or a Friday?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- "fuck around and find out" at December 08, 2021 05:57 PM (2u35I)

4 I'm so thankful my kids are out of school.

And if they want to go, it will be for a tech certification.

Let the school system burn.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2021 05:57 PM (BZY6c)

5 I am seeing the breaking point for some individuals. A mom I know who "can't homeschool" has decided it's charter or homeschooling from now on after clandestine emails were sent to her kids to survey their opinions on CRT. This is in Texas. There are MANY, however, who still have their heads firmly in the sand and others that need the "free" daycare. There are some, like the 20% or so that still support the Meat Puppet, who will simply never switch.

Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 08, 2021 05:58 PM (YMrAv)

6 I remember when teachers used to sit in the teachers' lounge, drink coffee and scotch by the gallon and smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day. Occasionally we would catch them banging each other in the supply closet.

They used to know their place.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 08, 2021 05:58 PM (BPuaD)

7 I'm just amazed they didn't ask for a 20% raise too.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 08, 2021 05:58 PM (iDcra)

8 >>>Just a wacky guess: do these "teachers" want their day off to be either a Monday or a Friday?


Friday.

Good guess.

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2021 05:58 PM (0G13K)

9 Nooded.

Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 08, 2021 05:59 PM (YMrAv)

10 Thier is nothing so stressfull as working as an Educater.

Posted by: An Educater at December 08, 2021 05:59 PM (Tnijr)

11 They do shit like this in the Colorado suburbs too. In our district, every Wednesday is a half day. Why? Don't know. What do parents do who have to work for a living? Don't know. Another nearby district went to 4 days a few years ago to cut down on school bus expenses. They'll just keep pushing new bullshit as long as they get away with it.

Posted by: Xander Crews at December 08, 2021 05:59 PM (MpOGS)

12 lolgf

It's a really bad time to be in the teaching occupation, having to actually do the job you are paid for.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2021 05:59 PM (SH2Zi)

13 Nood
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse.

Thanks No-Cuss Catherine !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 05:59 PM (arJlL)

14 If these were teachers in the three-metal-detector ghetto high schools I might be able to muster a little sympathy. But nah.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:00 PM (II3Gr)

15 Can we just admit that the "teaching occupation" is just a welfare program for a fairly low-educated, low-ambition bunch?
====

Not everyone can be First Lady

Posted by: DR. Jill at December 08, 2021 06:00 PM (iydjf)

16 I wish I only had a four day week

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 06:00 PM (2JoB8)

17 Ore days off than fedgov . . .
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse.

Ore days ?

They go prospectin' ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:00 PM (arJlL)

18 Time to change the teaching profession to an hourly onsite wage - that's how most seem to treat their jobs anyway.

PS - I'd love education funding to flow to me, b/c I haven't made use of any schools...ever...

Posted by: Nova local at December 08, 2021 06:01 PM (exHjb)

19 i'm shocked

the brazenness

the absolute audacity

after taking off a year!

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2021 06:01 PM (0G13K)

20 17 Ore days off than fedgov . . .
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse.

Ore days ?

They go prospectin' ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:00 PM (arJlL)

Mine your own business.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:01 PM (II3Gr)

21 Its like a war zone in the class rooms. We Educaters can not keep paying for supplys from our own pockets.

Posted by: An Educater at December 08, 2021 06:01 PM (Tnijr)

22 Ya know, if they do away with the babysitting, there isn't much left there of value.

Peeps gonna start noticing we don't need no gov't schools.

Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:01 PM (L3Rsz)

23 I've said before but think it bears repeating:

The Covid nonsense's one big silver lining has been, giving homeschooling a huge boost in popularity.

From what I can tell, even people who wouldn't have considered it in the past are doing their best to make it happen nowadays.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 06:01 PM (L2ZTs)

24 this is all kinda interesting to me, because if your demo is the suburban wine moms, you are not making them happy with this. Or the CRT stuff. Or the forced vaccinations while they're not looking.

So I'm scratching my head.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (AwPyG)

25 We can't say it enough...."heroes".

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (jDLF5)

26
I'm wondering if there is a breaking point at all.

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My prediction is approximately forty years. The government can and will finish stripping the American people of their liberty and dignity rapidly, and they will acquiesce. But once a couple generations passes, the enormous heap of accrued wealth that makes them fat and comfortable will be completely gone, and then they'll push back. When they're *all* going hungry, and not a moment before.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (2ABQr)

27 >>>21 Its like a war zone in the class rooms. We Educaters can not keep paying for supplys from our own pockets.


we keep hearing these stories, especially during union negotiations

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (0G13K)

28 Politics of envy...they want to zoom to work.

Posted by: Sassy at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (xSICi)

29
Reminds me of an old classic joke:

What do government/state/city employees say to each other at noon on Thursdays?

Have a nice weekend!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (2u35I)

30 22 Ya know, if they do away with the babysitting, there isn't much left there of value.

Peeps gonna start noticing we don't need no gov't schools.
Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:01 PM (L3Rsz)

Pink Floyd was ahead of the curve.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (II3Gr)

31 This kind of stuff is resonating and will be a factor in 2022 and beyond.

Of course, CA voters aren't going to do shit about it, but other states it won't fly.

Just ask previously unwinnable VA how voters will react. Almost everyone here was super confident a Republican could never win there again. And Republicans swept the state, largely over what was happening in public schools.

Posted by: Blago at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (PwNLq)

32 So I'm scratching my head.
Posted by: artemis

itchy ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (arJlL)

33 As the teachers say, teachers are the real heroes.

Posted by: Norm Macdonald at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM (aXxgO)

34 I'm wondering if there is a breaking point at all.

Don't think there is. I mean, how long have we been saying this? Pre-covid? And all covid did was show that they can do anything they want, the sheep don't even go baaa-aaah.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM (wAnMi)

35 2 So I'm scratching my head.
Posted by: artemis

itchy ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (arJlL)

The heartbreak of psoriasis

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM (II3Gr)

36
Aren't the French employees down to 30 hours max per week, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM (2u35I)

37 To be fair in some places they are payed upper middle class wages...

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM (CYnTg)

38 @23

Yeah, I'm in California, and there's been a huge exodus to homeschooling and private schools.

That's a good investment: build a private school in a blue state. It's gold, jerry.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM (AwPyG)

39 The Covid nonsense's one big silver lining has been, giving homeschooling a huge boost in popularity.

From what I can tell, even people who wouldn't have considered it in the past are doing their best to make it happen nowadays.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Yep..that was my contention as well.

The teachers love not teaching, the kids do better in other educational settings like homeschooling.

Win-win. Shut 'em (gov't schools) down.

Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM (L3Rsz)

40 Here in 95124 they have been taking every Wednesday off for over 15 years now. This is nothing new to most of us.

Posted by: patvann at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (e7dVY)

41 Breaking point? A bunch a kids dying from heart ailments from the vaccine mandates

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (CYnTg)

42 Teachers get a great salary, great pension, week off for Thanksgiving, two weeks off at Xmas, week off in spring and summer vacation and they still bitch and moan about it.

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (xPl2J)

43 artemis and lizabth, thanks

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (L2ZTs)

44 Just a wacky guess: do these "teachers" want their day off to be either a Monday or a Friday?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- "fuck around and find out" at December 08, 2021 05:57 PM (2u35I)


When the plandemic was going on, we all had to take a furlough day once a month. Our CEO was shocked that everyone scheduled their furlough days for Mondays or Fridays.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (Ez6QX)

45 Pink Floyd was ahead of the curve.
Posted by: Insomniac

PF knew the score.

Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (L3Rsz)

46 I was told it's for the children.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (NpAcC)

47 Isn't it lovely being ruled by health bureaucrats and public school teachers?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (iydjf)

48
Yeah, we all grew up hearing "stories" from Fake News about teachers "forced" to buy pencils and paper for their students because of "budget cuts."

Fuck them.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (2u35I)

49 Howdy neighbor..

Posted by: Sassy at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (xSICi)

50 if their jobs suck so bad, they should just quit & find better ones.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (03BbD)

51 When the plandemic was going on, we all had to take a furlough day once a month. Our CEO was shocked that everyone scheduled their furlough days for Mondays or Fridays.
Posted by: Jordan61

CEO's a dim bulb, huh ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (arJlL)

52 28 Politics of envy...they want to zoom to work.
Posted by: Sassy at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (xSICi)

But if Zoom works, then really Khan works, and we should just pay 1 guy to train 100,000 kids...

Honestly, though, there's not a parent in the world who can't teach ABCs, 1-2-3s, and other elementary info to their non-special needs kids (and most of their special-needs ones, too)...it's not hard academically for anyone until middle school and even then, most everyone could get to high school before needing any "experts".

So, PreK-6 is pretty much babysitting r us...

Posted by: Nova local at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (exHjb)

53 'Parents can teach there kids'

I've noticed that Bluebell writes up Homeschooling posts here from time to time. (Bluebell, right? ). Be careful what you wish for, Kalifornia.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (sAmhv)

54
Breaking point? A bunch a kids dying from heart ailments from the vaccine mandates
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (CYnTg)

-------

Won't move the needle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (2ABQr)

55 No "breaking point". No "civil war". No "national divorce". No "burning times".

As I've always said.

Burning times are now, this is them.

It's not uniform or universal, but it's broad and general.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (OTzUX)

56 Is this the good John Sexton HotAllah piece that makes up for the bad John Sexton HotAllah piece earlier?

Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (786Ro)

57 Teachers are among those who never want this to end

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:06 PM (CYnTg)

58 Isn't it lovely being ruled by health bureaucrats and public school teachers?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy

That duo has single-handedly made me an occasional potty-mouth. I loath them.

Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:06 PM (L3Rsz)

59 CEO's a dim bulb, huh ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (arJlL)


Little bit, yeah.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 08, 2021 06:06 PM (Ez6QX)

60 oops not verdict tonight. jury sent home

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2021 06:06 PM (Irn0L)

61 My kids' school implemented a "late start Wednesday" where they start two hours late. Then they had the nerve to ask the voters to pass a bond issue. Even though the district is fairly liberal, it failed. Now, I'm not saying the two issues are related, but it is one of the main reasons I voted NO.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at December 08, 2021 06:06 PM (VGRuw)

62 Albuquerque Public Schools have been doing a day off every week for years, even pre-Covid.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at December 08, 2021 06:06 PM (cZFF3)

63 It's a good way to separate the true-believers: are you willing to sacrifice your kids for the cause?

They may talk a good game, but I think most people won't

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (AwPyG)

64 Grand kids headed back to home schooling.
Most of the teachers can piss off.
All their unions can.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (axyOa)

65 January 6th Committee to charge Mark Meadows with contempt.

Mark Meadows is now suing Nanzi Pelosi and members of the J6 Committee accusing the committee of imposing "overly broad and unduly burdensome subpoenas" on him. It also alleged that the subpoenas were issued "in violation of the Constitution and laws of the United States."

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (UHVv4)

66 this is all kinda interesting to me, because if your demo is the suburban wine moms, you are not making them happy with this. Or the CRT stuff. Or the forced vaccinations while they're not looking.

So I'm scratching my head.
Posted by: artemis

Ace just reminded you that the teachers are really not that educated and they are not bright either...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (iMZHt)

67 Have you ever wondered why people scratch their heads when thinking? Does it help you think or does your brain make you head itch somehow? Does it boost the aura around your brain if you put your hands up there? I'm scratching my head just thinking about it. Try it!

Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (Tnijr)

68
The "teachers": If you don't like it, teach your own kids!

Also the "teachers": You're not qualified to teach your own kids!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (2u35I)

69 Breaking point? A bunch a kids dying from heart ailments from the vaccine mandates
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:04 PM (CYnTg)


Not even sure about that. The left has proven that they consider friends and family as collateral damage. Only if it affects them will they do something. As long as they can tweet, get their latte and plug in their Tesla, Mom, Dad, Jr. and Mr. Mittens can all drop dead and it's for the greater good.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (wAnMi)

70 51 When the plandemic was going on, we all had to take a furlough day once a month. Our CEO was shocked that everyone scheduled their furlough days for Mondays or Fridays.
Posted by: Jordan61

CEO's a dim bulb, huh ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (arJlL)

It's not the best and brightest but the most well-connected who frequently get these positions.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (II3Gr)

71 Albuquerque Public Schools have been doing a day off every week for years, even pre-Covid.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at December 08, 2021 06:06 PM (cZFF3)


That's how Mr White has time to work in the meth lab

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 06:08 PM (mZUr4)

72 I'm scratching my head just thinking about it. Try it!
Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (Tnijr)


All the lice just finally calmed down and you want me to wake them all up again?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:08 PM (wAnMi)

73
Aren't the French employees down to 30 hours max per week, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM


not sure about the French, but my colleagues in Germany tell me that their work week in 37 hours, as mandated by German law

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 08, 2021 06:08 PM (DUIap)

74 I'm scratching my head just thinking about it. Try it!
Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 06:07 PM (Tnijr)

That's just the lice.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:08 PM (II3Gr)

75 I keep wondering what the breaking point is. I'm wondering if there is a breaking point at all.

I wonder the same. Every day. The proverbial genie is obviously long out of the bottle, so if/when the breaking point does come we're gonna need a bigger bottle to cram that SOB back in.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:08 PM (Xrfse)

76 The "teachers": If you don't like it, teach your own kids!

Also the "teachers": You're not qualified to teach your own kids!
Posted by: Soothsayer

Prime example of mostly womanly leftist logic.

Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (L3Rsz)

77 From CNBC-
Virtual school resulted in 'significant' academic learning loss, study finds

https://tinyurl.com/24cz6j5b

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (NpAcC)

78 Only know indirectly, but seems here that Wednesdays have been half-days, and there are some Fridays or Mondays off, regularly. For some time. I think the total number of school days/hours is the same as the old days, but the calendar is different.

Like all good generalizations, there's more to the story, of course, but a solid short-hand description of one part of the problem is:

"When I was in school, teachers had second jobs. Now they have second houses."

Both parts absolutely true, at least in CA. Not a bit of exaggeration. Of course the "second house" is a minority, but completely unthinkable back when educational outcomes were vastly better, and teaching was a low-income stable job where most people had 2nd gigs in the summer.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (OTzUX)

79 Too many parents are in the don't give a fuck mode. Raising childrens is hard, yo. When over half of them have had enough we'll see what happens, until then... zero.

Maybe stop paying taxes irate parents? You'd think that would draw some attention to the problem but we all know it'll only put good parents in jail.

Thus... it is all going according to The Plan (tm).

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (BFigT)

80
Both my wife and I taught in a private school and the experience was so enriching and emotionally fulfilling you could have paid us less then minimum wage and we would have figured out how to make it work and been happy. Can you imagine having thirty of your own children in a classroom and wanting each and every one of them to succeed? The parents were 'on to us' and Christmas and end of year gifts each required a dozen trips to the car to transport home.

I don't wanna hear about public school teachers. Love it or get the f out.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (dQvv7)

81 I remember when California was having budget problems, they started closing different departments of the courthouses on certain days

Because it was more important to keep the employees employed, than offer the public services to the citizens.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (AwPyG)

82 Teachers are among those who never want this to end
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:06 PM (CYnTg)

When we grew up, there were certain teachers who would hurt the children any way they could.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (SH2Zi)

83 Not qualified to teach your own kids? Thats funny. Alaska is full of bush kids who get their school materials via bush plane. Their test scores are at least as good as those who go to public school.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (o2MD2)

84 That's just the lice.
Posted by: Insomniac

Try the ivermectin. I hear it's good for that.

Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (L3Rsz)

85 sock_rat_eez: "if their jobs suck so bad, they should just quit & find better ones."

Exactly. They could learn to code and lap-topping would be an essential, remunerated skill. Win-win.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (aXxgO)

86 How would the lice know you are thinking intently?

Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (Tnijr)

87 I wonder the same. Every day. The proverbial genie is obviously long out of the bottle, so if/when the breaking point does come we're gonna need a bigger bottle to cram that SOB back in.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:08 PM (Xrfse)

The genie's been out of the bottle since ~1865

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (II3Gr)

88 I teach Science. I work hard with my students. In 20 years, I have 100% of passing their Regents Science tests in Bio or E.S. I cannot talk for other people, but in my school in general most teachers work hard for the students. I do not teach BS like stupid global warming, and I try hard to make them critical thinkers before they try to indoctrinate them in college. However, I do understand the general sentiment. I do not agree with the masking and the political theater of covid. Unions have become the mouthpieces of the demoRats. I'm close to retirement and I will try to tutor kids, maybe homeschool ones.

Posted by: kilroy at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (V5IxL)

89 Jordan Peterson got the jab because he believed it would return us to "normal"

Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (786Ro)

90
Suburban wine moms, of all demographics in America, will never, ever turn on the Party. As I said, I give this thing forty years, give or take, then kaput.

And when it happens, whenever it happens, ten years later... the higher-status Party-connected wine moms of the future will be milling around with protest signs demanding a return of the old regime. Like those dumpy sad-sack midwit Russians of the older generation, circa '96.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (2ABQr)

91 Turning teachers into government tyrants it was bound to happen they would vote themselves less hours.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (2JoB8)

92 not sure about the French, but my colleagues in Germany tell me that their work week in 37 hours, as mandated by German law
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 08, 2021 06:08 PM (DUIap)



I work 37 hours every day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (Irn0L)

93 I wish my workday ended at 3PM with 3 months off in summer and another month off spread around the year.

Posted by: x at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (oA+QO)

94 I doesn't add up. Bald people scratch their head when thinking too.

Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (Tnijr)

95
When I was just a wee tyke, my favorite day was Wednesday because it was a "Half Day."

I could get home in time to watch cartoons and have the whole house to myself.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (2u35I)

96 oops not verdict tonight. jury sent home
Posted by: Nevergiveup



What are you on trial for, man?

Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (786Ro)

97 Prime example of mostly womanly leftist logic.
Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (L3Rsz)

"If you don't already know there's no point explaining it to you!"

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (II3Gr)

98 kilroy, good to hear.
Sorry that good teachers like yourself are being driven out.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (L2ZTs)

99 I've mentioned it before, but somehow NC schools got a half-billion dollars when they shut down last year and didn't need to heat or cool any buildings, nor supply any water, or clean a single surface because of COVID.

Never did figure that one out. /

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did you know the kids vaccine formula wasn't tested at all? at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (BGev3)

100 this is all kinda interesting to me, because if your demo is the suburban wine moms, you are not making them happy with this. Or the CRT stuff. Or the forced vaccinations while they're not looking.

So I'm scratching my head.
Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:02 PM (AwPyG)

Wine Moms' kids do not go to LAUSD. CA is a failing third world state. But hey, Hispanics are split on Biden.

Posted by: WiNO - Now Fortified with Fraud at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (EpDzw)

101 I'm close to retirement and I will try to tutor kids, maybe homeschool ones.
Posted by: kilroy

What a great idea...you'd be a blessing to many families.

Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (L3Rsz)

102 CEO's a dim bulb, huh ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:05 PM (arJlL)

It's not the best and brightest but the most well-connected who frequently get these positions.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist.

That's not fair !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:12 PM (arJlL)

103 This is awesome. I hope it helps collapse the public school system.

Posted by: Mad Hatter at December 08, 2021 06:12 PM (HBuMf)

104 In all honesty, if you don't need the babysitting, if your kid is in PreK-3, you can take Fridays "off" - they don't need to do "official type" learning 5 days a week b/c they pick up so much learning through play.

But, I'm sure if you suggested all teachers of those age groups only work 4 days/week for 80% of other teachers' salaries, there'd be rebellion.

I mean, really, we could have that whole group be part time 3-4 hour/days 4 days/week and then allow the kids to go to daycare or home, and they'd learn more and probably be happier...teachers probably wouldn't be, but they don't seem to want to work anyway...

Posted by: Nova local at December 08, 2021 06:12 PM (exHjb)

105 "If you don't already know there's no point explaining it to you!"
Posted by: Insomniac

Bahaha...I am so going to use this on my hubby.

Posted by: lizabth at December 08, 2021 06:13 PM (L3Rsz)

106 I try to take Fridays off if I can. That's after 29++ years of working Mon-Fri and sometimes weekends.

Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 06:13 PM (Tnijr)

107 What are you on trial for, man?
Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM (786Ro)

For loving America.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2021 06:13 PM (Irn0L)

108 Teachers don't like their 40 hour work weeks?

You know what many professional call 40 hours? Noon Thursday. And we do it 12 months a year.

Posted by: Ripley at December 08, 2021 06:14 PM (PTDkx)

109 One thing not mentioned.

The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2021 06:14 PM (M/0Gj)

110 oops not verdict tonight. jury sent home
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Are they under guard ?

Lotta violent homos be-bopping out there .

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:14 PM (arJlL)

111 This is entirely anecdotal but my next door neighbor is a middle school teacher and she never seems to work. Almost always home. I know for a fact that her district is not restricted to online learning. I've been meaning to ask her what the deal is but I've learned that a nosy neighbor is not a good neighbor.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:14 PM (Xrfse)

112 78 Only know indirectly, but seems here that Wednesdays have been half-days, and there are some Fridays or Mondays off, regularly. For some time. I think the total number of school days/hours is the same as the old days, but the calendar is different.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:09 PM (OTzUX)

For the "late start Wednesdays" I mentioned, the late start doesn't count against contact days. Had it been a half day it would have. So in this case they actually do teach less but get paid the same.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at December 08, 2021 06:14 PM (VGRuw)

113 And "being ruled by school teachers" is no exaggeration (well, their union). Years back, just before CA completed its transformation into an utterly politically dead, one-party state, an incident made the news in Sacramento (well, it made the specialty news or forums, at least).

One of the top union lobbyists was yelling - berating - a state senator, in his office suite, in front of his staff.

Even if you've never worked in Congress or a legislature, this entire concept should strike you as completely insane, reflecting a collapsed system. Teacher's union runs CA as much as anything, any organization or entity.

And the idiot voters just lap it up.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:14 PM (OTzUX)

114 Exactly. They could learn to code and lap-topping would be an essential, remunerated skill. Win-win.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel

I read that as lap-dancing and still think some of them would be better at that than teaching.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 06:15 PM (iMZHt)

115 @89

It's just the opposite; because you comply, it will never end.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:15 PM (AwPyG)

116 Yeah, I'm in California, and there's been a huge exodus to homeschooling and private schools.

That's a good investment: build a private school in a blue state. It's gold, jerry.
Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:03 PM (AwPyG)


Why I mentioned the Christian Schools in the area having huge waiting lists. My pastor moved from a small facility to taking over an abandoned public school about 10 years ago, and they're at capacity. CA was at the forefront of charter schools back in the 70's. They would probably fight it tooth and nail today (teachers unions didn't have the weight back then), but both sides want it. The only ones going to public schools are the illegals, hispanics and blacks. Or, the wine moms who want Jr. to know what a piece of shit he is. Although, there's definitely enclaves where this isn't an issue - the same ones you want to go to if you have to have an ER visit. But from what I've been reading lately, even places like Palo Alto high are not places to be after dark.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:15 PM (wAnMi)

117 of course remote learning sucked. you had the same old sucky teachers leading it. I think a great teacher could teach thousands well remotely.

Posted by: x at December 08, 2021 06:15 PM (oA+QO)

118 Stop what you're doing and listen to @jordanbpeterson on @joerogan from years ago, where he predicts everything happening now.
___

Lord predicted this long before they did.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 06:15 PM (mVFGK)

119 >>>109 One thing not mentioned.

The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.

...

i... i...

like half the post was about this.

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2021 06:15 PM (0G13K)

120 For loving America.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2021 06:13 PM (Irn0L)


Tin Man? Lonely People? Sister Golden Hair?

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 06:16 PM (mZUr4)

121 In other California news-

The Associated Press
@AP
BREAKING: California unveils plan to become an abortion "sanctuary" if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade. The proposal would include paying for travel, lodging and procedures for people from other states who want to have an abortion.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:16 PM (NpAcC)

122 Teachers Unions are the worst thing that has ever happened to kids.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 08, 2021 06:16 PM (DcKNO)

123
It's not the best and brightest but the most well-connected who frequently get these positions.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist.

That's not fair !
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:12 PM (arJlL)

"Meritocracy" is mostly bullshit sold by organizations to keep their plebs working hard in the false hope they can get ahead.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:16 PM (II3Gr)

124 re 109
oops - i should have read ace's post more closely. (or did he add that bit about the laptop class after i read it?)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2021 06:16 PM (M/0Gj)

125 Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:16 PM (NpAcC)

Fuck that

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2021 06:17 PM (Q1i0Y)

126 I work 37 hours every day
Posted by: Nevergiveup

And now you're billing as if you were a lawyer?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 06:17 PM (iMZHt)

127
oops not verdict tonight. jury sent home
Posted by: Nevergiveup


What are you on trial for, man?

Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:11 PM


Reports of his trial and guilty verdict are only premature.

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at December 08, 2021 06:17 PM (dQvv7)

128 we keep hearing these stories, especially during union negotiations
Posted by: ace
--------------
Teaching is a miserable job. It is a job for people who have already failed at a first career for the most part and it is little more than a baby sitting and data entry service in reality.
Unfortunately, that is many many jobs right now. Half of my time, when I'm not in the operating room, is spent either entering data in a computer or reviewing and editing what some underling has entered in a computer. There are very few people who like that sort of work.

Posted by: Drc at December 08, 2021 06:17 PM (MZVOx)

129 Doof: Daisy Jane!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 06:17 PM (L2ZTs)

130 One thing not mentioned...

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Ummm...Ace did mention this.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 06:17 PM (mVFGK)

131 I am qualified to teach Math and Biology, but damn, not sure I can put up with the bullshit. Dealing with machinery is so much easier.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 08, 2021 06:17 PM (o2MD2)

132 >>Can we just admit that the "teaching occupation" is just a welfare program for a fairly low-educated, low-ambition bunch?

You left out that they, like most of those in the younger generations, believe they're entitled to a decent-paying, indoor, no-hard-work job with practically no hard performance requirements.

When they are first hired, rookie teachers with the above mindset discover that teaching is not a cushy no-work job, not if they try to do the job to the satisfaction of parents and taxpayers.

So they find relief by not teaching for real, instead simply preaching the CRT and Amerikkka Is Evil crap from canned lesson plans from companies like the one run by Garland's son-in-law. Woke principals and administrators encourage this BS, or at least do not discourage it. IMHO.

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2021 06:18 PM (AMIL/)

133 Can we just admit that the "teaching occupation" is just a welfare program for a fairly low-educated, low-ambition bunch?
---
"Enjoy the Decline" called it "a jobs program for otherwise unemployable adults."

And it is. It's the WPA for college degreed women.

Posted by: Lrrr at December 08, 2021 06:18 PM (jIL4c)

134
Overfuckingturning Roe wouldn't ban abortions.

It would give the power back to the States to make their own laws for killing an unborn baby.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:18 PM (2u35I)

135 Yeah, I'm in California, and there's been a huge exodus to homeschooling and private schools.

My Parish school (K- planned for and built to double in size 3-4 years ago. The expansion was filled in 18 months. We are now fundraising to double again.

ps - the tuition, per student, is half of what the public district gets per student from the taxpayers.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2021 06:18 PM (mD/uy)

136 If teachers aren't going to teach, then I want a refund on the portion of my property taxes and state income taxes that go to schools.

Red states initiating their own school voucher programs would be fun as well.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 08, 2021 06:18 PM (57IqW)

137 93 I wish my workday ended at 3PM with 3 months off in summer and another month off spread around the year.

"You get the same vacation time as *a child*!" - The late, great Norm MacDonald

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 08, 2021 06:19 PM (Bmy3R)

138 like half the post was about this.

Posted by: ace

I don't know how I missed it. Sorry. I am eating breakfast and very busy and important.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2021 06:19 PM (M/0Gj)

139 "...they conceive of themselves as part of the Upper Middle Learned Classes ..."

What I have seen of teachers "off duty"...they better get their act together. Upper Middle Class dames do NOT wear PJ's to the store, do NOT have a ton of dangly things on their purses, do NOT have masks made out of disney character fabric...you catch my drift.

Posted by: Flyover at December 08, 2021 06:19 PM (Rbu5d)

140 Porch kitty is transforming into house cat. She was hanging around the kitchen while I was getting supper ready and I nearly tripped over her twice. She already fucks with my allergies so if she causes my terrible falling injury..... bad business for kitty.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2021 06:19 PM (Vxu+H)

141 BREAKING: California unveils plan to become an abortion "sanctuary" if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade. The proposal would include paying for travel, lodging and procedures for people from other states who want to have an abortion.
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*notices earthquake swarms in Cali and off the PNW coast*

Some people just insist on thumbing their noses at God.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 06:19 PM (mVFGK)

142 California infant death by race:

African American/Black 10.2

White 3.6

California HATES chilrens

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:19 PM (yrol0)

143 Mom was a teacher. Sister was a teacher. Wife was a teacher. Three kids through public school. School faculties are, overwhelmingly, twenty-something women or effeminate men, sprinkled with an occasional based, middle-aged man or woman. They're usually run by leftist women or the aforementioned effeminate man, hellbent on avoiding controversy or being required to make a decision apart from "policy."

The latest wave of twenty-something women is woke beyond belief and militaristic in their desire to indoctrinate with all the wisdom a 23 yr old college grad possesses.

Home-school now.

Posted by: red speck at December 08, 2021 06:20 PM (gS3OW)

144 This is awesome. I hope it helps collapse the public school system.
Posted by: Mad Hatter

Like Trigglypuff sitting on a balloon ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:20 PM (arJlL)

145 >>> 109
oops - i should have read ace's post more closely. (or did he add that bit about the laptop class after i read it?)

no it was always there

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2021 06:20 PM (0G13K)

146 Allahpundit now linking to Talking Points Memo in his rant about the Georgia primary for governor, he's truly losing it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 08, 2021 06:20 PM (ML53A)

147 Overfuckingturning Roe wouldn't ban abortions.

It would give the power back to the States to make their own laws for killing an unborn baby.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:18 PM (2u35I)


Are you asking people in CA to not just read, but comprehend?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:20 PM (wAnMi)

148 They forced my wife to do remote teaching for a while. She hated it. Most of the time she's talking into the void. She asks a question, nobody answers. She picks someone to answer, they don't answer.

At first the kids had to have cameras on to check if they were there, but some kids are ridiculously poor, and they complained about having to show their bedroom with six kids in it. Admin told them they could turn off the cameras.

For most of the kids, even checking in one time per class was a step too far. They wouldn't do it.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2021 06:20 PM (sG4Hj)

149 What I have seen of teachers "off duty"...they better get their act together. Upper Middle Class dames do NOT wear PJ's to the store, do NOT have a ton of dangly things on their purses, do NOT have masks made out of disney character fabric...you catch my drift.
Posted by: Flyover at December 08, 2021 06:19 PM (Rbu5d)

They're too busy fucking the poolboy for any of that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:21 PM (II3Gr)

150 @136

I'm surprised Florida or some other red state hasn't seized on this environment to introduce vouchers.

I think Ohio may have, but I didn't hear what happened. May as well strike while the iron is hot.

also--I think there are rumblings about requiring cameras in classrooms, which is an awesome idea.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:21 PM (AwPyG)

151
...

i... i...

like half the post was about this.

Posted by: ace



Was it?
hmmph

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:21 PM (2u35I)

152 California maternal death rates for Blacks is 4X Whites.

They HATE Black women!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:21 PM (yrol0)

153 >>i... i...

>like half the post was about this.


What post?


Nevermind. The thing is...

The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2021 06:21 PM (vfR0Y)

154 PS

The Data:

https://tinyurl.com/5e3e93vv

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:21 PM (yrol0)

155 Former NFLer, Glenn Foster Jr., dies after being arrested following a high-speed chase in Alabama. Convoluted story in my sock...

||Police in the small town of Reform, Ala., near Tuscaloosa, attempted to stop Foster's vehicle on Friday for reported speeding. Police say he led them on a chase and deployed spike strips to stop the vehicle, which caused him to crash. Police then arrested Foster and took him to the county jail.

Reform Police Chief Richard Black told The Times-Picayune/The New Orleans Advocate that he became concerned Foster Jr. was behaving erratically. He says he spoke with Foster Jr.'s parents, who told him the former Saints player had bipolar disorder and may have been experiencing a manic episode. Foster's parents and Black made arrangements to bail him out of jail on the condition he go to a hospital for evaluation.

But on Sunday, when Foster's parents and Black arrived at the county jail, they were told Foster wouldn't be released to them because he had been re-booked on additional counts, including assault, and was being held without bail.||

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:22 PM (UHVv4)

156
no it was always there
Posted by: ace


Are you sure?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:22 PM (2u35I)

157 119 >>>109 One thing not mentioned.

The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.

...

i... i...

like half the post was about this.

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2021 06:15 PM (0G13K)

Post?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2021 06:22 PM (z5Vrg)

158 New ad campaign
" Come to California to get rid if that pesky fetus"

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:22 PM (CYnTg)

159 Steven Spielberg's "West Side Story" Remake Banned in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait Over LGBTQ Character

-
As far as I can tell, neither Tony nor Maria is alternative lifestyle which is more than I expected.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 08, 2021 06:22 PM (FVME7)

160 If you're reading the reactions around, you might entertain some hope that they are really going to overturn Roe v Wade.

We'll see

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:22 PM (AwPyG)

161 137 "You get the same vacation time as *a child*!" - The late, great Norm MacDonald


Wasn't he also the one to say: "You know what kind of education you need to be an 8th grade teacher? Ninth grade."

Which is a little unfair, but not really far off.

Posted by: red speck at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (gS3OW)

162 My stepson, who wants nothing to do with me, and his wife, who also wants nothing to do with me, are teachers in California.
I think they're good teachers.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (eGTCV)

163 The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.
Posted by: garrett

threadwinner

Posted by: x at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (oA+QO)

164 The latest wave of twenty-something women is woke beyond belief and militaristic in their desire to indoctrinate with all the wisdom a 23 yr old college grad possesses.

Home-school now.
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Yeah, about that...

When you have a twenty-something woke as heck and very militant about it woman as a daughter homeschooling your grandchildren, it's not so simple.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (mVFGK)

165 Notice how, when given the biggest opportunity to market their skills to the world via remote tutoring or even private classes, 100% of public teachers went "nah?"

Just how vital and precious are a teacher's skills to the free market when not one was able to command a single penny but that they coerced from the taxpayer?

Posted by: Lrrr at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (jIL4c)

166 who's ace?

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (AwPyG)

167 As far as I can tell, neither Tony nor Maria is alternative lifestyle which is more than I expected.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 08, 2021 06:22 PM (FVME7)


Lemme guess -- Officer Krupke is a tranny??

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (mZUr4)

168 Maybe the time is ripe for conservatives to stop bitching about the education system and instead enter into the field and drive out the inept, apathetic and sexually perverse liberal teachers that don't want to work.

Maybe we could take the country back by teaching the next generation of patriotic Americans.

Or not.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (rjHTr)

169 This is only solved when the money is tied/follows the kid. (School choice) Once that happens, then, and only then, will the education system begin getting fixed.

Great opening for a candidate to exploit.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 08, 2021 06:24 PM (hwHa4)

170 Fire teachers and have them walk the Earth while having different experiences every week.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 08, 2021 06:24 PM (huq90)

171 CNBC-
Virtual school resulted in 'significant' academic learning loss, study finds
Posted by: redridinghood

*

A principal goes to church with us. At the beginning of the school year he told me that you wouldn't be able to get anyone to talk to you about it, but they had documentation showing that only 25% of students nationwide remained at grade level.

It's disturbing to realize how far reaching this 2020 plan was and will be.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at December 08, 2021 06:24 PM (G1FSB)

172 So are they trying to drum up another round of riots with this ex players death?

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:24 PM (CYnTg)

173 I looked into becoming a teacher years ago. Wanted to teach high school US History. Thought I could make a difference. They guard the guild well.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 08, 2021 06:24 PM (kTF2Z)

174 I'm surprised Florida or some other red state hasn't seized on this environment to introduce vouchers.

I think Ohio may have, but I didn't hear what happened. May as well strike while the iron is hot.
Posted by: artemis

Nope - OH rapes us on property taxes to fund schools and you have to go to your district school. If you send the littles to private school, tough titties, you pay twice.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (mD/uy)

175 Back when I was younger than 29, the local newspaper published a letter to the editor from a true hero who was upset about being so underpaid.

The letter was published exactly as the hero had sent it, except [sic] followed every misspelled word, of which there were a whole bunch. The letter was signed "A 22 year veterin teacher".

Posted by: Furious George at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (9vQJW)

176 Mao killed all the teachers, didn't he?

Maybe not his worst idea.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (vfR0Y)

177 >>>Nevermind. The thing is...

The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.
Posted by: garrett

I just wrote an article about that very point.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (0G13K)

178 168 Maybe the time is ripe for conservatives to stop bitching about the education system and instead enter into the field and drive out the inept, apathetic and sexually perverse liberal teachers that don't want to work.

Maybe we could take the country back by teaching the next generation of patriotic Americans.

Or not.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (rjHTr)

That basically is what homeschooling is about. Or did you think there'd be a shot with jobs in the education bureaucracy? They don't hire everyone with a teaching degree, there's a glut of would-be indoctrinators.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (z5Vrg)

179 ,,,or was that Pol Pot?


Either way. Worth noting.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (vfR0Y)

180 I think the less time spent in California public schools, the better anyway. If test scores are any indication, the kids there aren't being taught anything of value anyway.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (HmZuC)

181 The only ones going to public schools are the illegals, hispanics and blacks. Or, the wine moms who want Jr. to know what a piece of shit he is. Although, there's definitely enclaves where this isn't an issue - the same ones you want to go to if you have to have an ER visit. But from what I've been reading lately, even places like Palo Alto high are not places to be after dark.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:15 PM (wAnMi)


It's amazing how much the champions of race have managed to segregate us, again.

Posted by: Javems at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (AmoqO)

182 Those who can't "do", teach.

With a couple exceptions

Posted by: Walter White at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (7ZQe3)

183 I looked into becoming a teacher years ago. Wanted to teach high school US History. Thought I could make a difference. They guard the guild well.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (arJlL)

184 Less than 100 years ago, teaching was considered an honored profession, and teachers were respected and admired by kids and adults alike. They have virtually pissed it all away.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (o2MD2)

185 176 Mao killed all the teachers, didn't he?

Maybe not his worst idea.
Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (vfR0Y)

Well after a revolution, it's important to get rid of the subversives, whose only real use in life is to overthrow the prior regime(and consequently are a threat to the new regime).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (z5Vrg)

186 >>I just wrote an article about that very point.


Salient.

I hope you worked the word 'Mcguffin' in there once or twice.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (vfR0Y)

187 Wasn't he also the one to say: "You know what kind of education you need to be an 8th grade teacher? Ninth grade."

*

What's the fall back degree for education majors who can't hack the middle school math requirements?

Journalism.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (G1FSB)

188 LOL at the by-play with ace here. "Jonah Goldberg", well done.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (OTzUX)

189 183 I looked into becoming a teacher years ago. Wanted to teach high school US History. Thought I could make a difference. They guard the guild well.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (arJlL)

General Lee's white horse. Duh.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (II3Gr)

190 The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.

Damn. Beat me to it.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (Xrfse)

191 The letter was published exactly as the hero had sent it, except [sic] followed every misspelled word, of which there were a whole bunch. The letter was signed "A 22 year veterin teacher".
Posted by: Furious George at December 08, 2021 06:25 PM (9vQJW)

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This is from a teacher's union protest. In Chicago, if memory serves. Might have been WI, though. Somewhere up North:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9ft5kw

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (2ABQr)

192 Have underground schools. Self contained

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (huq90)

193 This is only solved when the money is tied/follows the kid. (School choice) Once that happens, then, and only then, will the education system begin getting fixed.

Great opening for a candidate to exploit.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 08, 2021 06:24 PM (hwHa4)


Flawed premise. The goal of Big Education is not actually educating students. The system aint broken to Big E -- it just isn't graft-ish enough

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (mZUr4)

194 You have to get up pretty early in the morning...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (Xrfse)

195 The LA teachers union is a criminal racket. I was a new teacher in LA in 1989. That was the year of the teachers' strike, and I watched the union in action. The district had offered them a contract that was (I can't recall the exact figure) within one or two percent of what the union demanded. Then president, Wayne Johnson, suddenly looked like he wasn't going to be an instant media star, and called the strike anyway.
I said, "Fuck him, and all his sheep", and crossed the picket line every day just to spite them. And, of course, I got some heat for it. But I held my ground, and didn't care if I made enemies. The few who tried to get nasty with me found out it was a bad idea to do so. Wayne Johnson got himself a desk in Sacramento. The Teachers' union, and all their goons did not then, and to this day do not give a rat's ass about education. Fuck 'em.

JWM

Posted by: jwm at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (eWQHi)

196 Also in Calif they have a new race based MATH system... yes, CRT Math... woke Math.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (oHd/0)

197 So who will molest the children on those days when the teachers don't come?

Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (0OP+5)

198 Nevermind. The thing is...

The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.
Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2021 06:21 PM (vfR0Y)


And they're so smart, they can't make the distinction between an engineer who can code his ass off in a bathroom or a cubicle or a kitchen, and a store clerk who simply cannot work from home.

You're not just "teaching" but part of an entire socialization process for kids. They don't have the discipline, and frankly, neither do most of the teachers. I really feel sorry for kids, we're going to have an entire generation of borderline sociopaths who can't read facial expressions, much less a book.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (wAnMi)

199 Maybe if the teachers were not so involved and concerned about indoctrinating the children and actually just taught them reading, writing and arithmetic they could feel good about themselves again.

And really, they want to be known as professionals but they can never be fired. Nope. Sorry. You cannot have it both ways.

If they do not want to teach, good riddance. I would prefer a vet teach them than a woke teacher.

Posted by: Czech Chick at December 08, 2021 06:28 PM (Ypbog)

200 Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (arJlL)

General Lee's white horse. Duh.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist.

Not everyone knows that.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:28 PM (arJlL)

201 The data/analysis on the disaster of remote learning in 2020 was coming out long ago. I think about a year ago, when I gave up on the country and the C19 thing.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:28 PM (OTzUX)

202 I really feel sorry for kids, we're going to have an entire generation of borderline sociopaths who can't read facial expressions, much less a book.
___

Which is why I pray every day that the Lord comes back well before they reach adulthood.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 06:29 PM (mVFGK)

203 I'm surprised Florida or some other red state hasn't seized on this environment to introduce vouchers.

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They could call laws taking money from public schools and giving it to parents as vouchers for private schools "Randi Weingarten laws."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 08, 2021 06:29 PM (FVME7)

204 Those who can't "do", teach.

With a couple exceptions
Posted by: Walter White at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (7ZQe3)


Yo!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at December 08, 2021 06:29 PM (mZUr4)

205 2021 Leftists: If you don't like it, build your own schools!


2024 Leftists: How dare you build your own schools! Public schools are failing and your schools are nothing but indoctrination centers where you don't even teach CRT!!

Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 08, 2021 06:29 PM (57IqW)

206 Funny. Having a beer with an old high scool friend at out 50th year reunion. He claimed thst he banged our hot math teacher during the summer after graduation. This easy unheard of in 1969.

This guy is not a fabulous. Non liar, with a great story.

We wondered if Miss T. was still alive. She would probably be 80. Ummm

Posted by: Redenzo at December 08, 2021 06:29 PM (E7vND)

207 168 Maybe the time is ripe for conservatives to stop bitching about the education system and instead enter into the field and drive out the inept, apathetic and sexually perverse liberal teachers that don't want to work.

Maybe we could take the country back by teaching the next generation of patriotic Americans.

Or not.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (rjHTr)

You won't get tenure...so it will be 3 years and out in most public school systems, unless you can mouth the lines for the 1st 3...

But you can teach private schools and homeschool kids...but there's no money in either of those, so it's hard to raise a family on just that income (thus, why my spouse and I volunteer our time in our taught classes, but he has a real job)...

Posted by: Nova local at December 08, 2021 06:29 PM (exHjb)

208 Remake Banned in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait Over LGBTQ Character
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Spielberg read something modern into "pretty, witty and gay"??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:29 PM (UHVv4)

209 One day I was washing my dirty vagina and it said to me, "The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids."

Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 08, 2021 06:29 PM (0G13K)

210 And really, they want to be known as professionals but they can never be fired. Nope. Sorry. You cannot have it both ways.

If they do not want to teach, good riddance. I would prefer a vet teach them than a woke teacher.
Posted by: Czech Chick

You're beautiful when you're angry......

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:30 PM (arJlL)

211 This is the United Steak of Amer for God's sake!

https://bit.ly/31IXIz1

Posted by: President Full Diaper at December 08, 2021 06:30 PM (sG4Hj)

212 My girlfriend is a union officer in the teachers union in the Susanville area. This is red state/Trump/State Of Jefferson territory. The schools in these areas are basically school districts unto themselves. They're a lot different from the heavily populated blue areas in California. From what she says the state and the union treat them like redheaded step children and are often combative to their needs. She says this CRT and other bullshit woven into the curriculum wouldn't and does not fly up where she's at. She says the people in the cities are awfully polite because up where she's at the school board members AND teachers would probably be shot or have something else violent happen to them. This shit isn't everywhere in California.

Posted by: JROD at December 08, 2021 06:30 PM (0jZnq)

213 In theory, the college freshman class I teach could be done entirely online. Indeed it was for about a year. However, it's VERY clear that students do want to come to class and learn with their fellow students. There's always about 10-15% that don't, but that choice is *theirs* not mine. They are free to attend or not attend class, but it's their loss when they don't learn much. I may procrastinate when it comes to preparing for class, but I am ALWAYS prepared and ready to go when it's time. I can't abide lazy professors or teachers...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (R945f)

214 The repulsive, idiotic racist head of the Chicago teachers' union (unless I'm confusing my repulsive racist idiot public union leaders, which is a non-zero probability) not long ago, in one of her outrageous screeds, had trouble with English.

Which was, of course, perfect, in so many ways.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (OTzUX)

215 Also in Calif they have a new race based MATH system... yes, CRT Math... woke Math.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (oHd/0)


Yep, math is racist. Not a universal language embraced by all races and cultures over the centuries. Well, that is unless you live in a mud hut and eat grubs. Even then, most are aware that M'butu has 6 grubs and you have only 4, which means you need to kill him so you have all grubs.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (wAnMi)

216 The teachers envy the white collar workers who can work from home. This is a class distinction, and they loath being part of the "service" class which has to show up at work. Like maids.

If paying teachers was important we would have vouchers.
My school District:
371000000 / 42000=8833
20 student per class:
20*8833=176660
Pay teachers 60% of that.

TADA

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (yrol0)

217 Guy Benson
@guypbenson
National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom."

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (NpAcC)

218 The promotion of sexual deviancy in schools came directly from the DOE, Arne Duncan and that fucking pervert kevin jennings.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (CdA/y)

219 Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (arJlL)

General Lee's white horse. Duh.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist.

Not everyone knows that.
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:28 PM (arJlL)

The wording of that peace treaty must have been super confusing...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (6FeV1)

220 I would prefer a vet teach them than a woke teacher.
Posted by: Czech Chick at December 08, 2021 06:28 PM (Ypbog)
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Small animal or large animal practice?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 08, 2021 06:32 PM (AlkyK)

221 National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom."
Posted by: redridinghood

When his mouth isn't full.....

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:33 PM (arJlL)

222 168 Maybe the time is ripe for conservatives to stop bitching about the education system and instead enter into the field and drive out the inept, apathetic and sexually perverse liberal teachers that don't want to work.

Maybe we could take the country back by teaching the next generation of patriotic Americans.

Or not.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (rjHTr)

It the old go build your own Twitter. People did and now they say THATS BAD.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:33 PM (yrol0)

223 "You get the same vacation time as *a child*!" - The late, great Norm MacDonald
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 08, 2021 06:19 PM

=====

You know - since he died, there have been a bunch of bootleg sets of his posted.

Something I never noticed previously is that he was ending his shows for the last few years with a bit about being Christian, and how the hard part about it is that you're supposed to talk to other people about it, and people kind of look at you like you're a retard. (And besides, he doesn't actually want to convert his neighbors. He'd rather be up in heaven watching them down below, getting raped by the devil for all eternity.)

Then, half the time it kind of segues from a bit, into him actually talking sincerely to the audience about Christianity. Maybe it depends on the crowd how far he goes in that direction.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at December 08, 2021 06:33 PM (sGnvY)

224 Geddy Lee's horse died?

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:33 PM (CYnTg)

225 Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 06:26 PM (arJlL)

General Lee's white horse. Duh.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist.


A white horse could jump through the windows of the General Lee??

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 06:34 PM (mZUr4)

226 " ... I really feel sorry for kids, we're going to have an entire generation of borderline sociopaths who can't read facial expressions, much less a book.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:27 PM (wAnMi) "

IOW, carbon copies of who's running things now ?
that's called "feature, not bug" on my planet.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 06:34 PM (03BbD)

227 >>@guypbenson
National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom."


I think they mean oral.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2021 06:34 PM (vfR0Y)

228 They're making this same push in Portland Public Schools. It's clearly coordinated.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 06:34 PM (cSs/W)

229 201 The data/analysis on the disaster of remote learning in 2020 was coming out long ago. I think about a year ago, when I gave up on the country and the C19 thing.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:28 PM (OTzUX)

My guess is they will never catch up!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:34 PM (yrol0)

230 National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom."

Well, there ya go. Not much else to say.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (Xrfse)

231 I have a retired aunt who was a elementary school teacher from day 1 she started college that was her goal.
Doubt she failed at anything.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (2JoB8)

232 Life experience plays a big role in the quality of an educator's career. I was lucky enough to have a majority of teachers who were WWII vets and they knew what was up.

There was a time for play and a time to kick young ass. Also, most of them hated FDR.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (BPuaD)

233 Bitter Clinger, they can't get hired in the school systems that really need them.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (CdA/y)

234 My girlfriend is a union officer in the teachers union in the Susanville area. This is red state/Trump/State Of Jefferson territory. The schools in these areas are basically school districts unto themselves. They're a lot different from the heavily populated blue areas in California. From what she says the state and the union treat them like redheaded step children and are often combative to their needs. She says this CRT and other bullshit woven into the curriculum wouldn't and does not fly up where she's at. She says the people in the cities are awfully polite because up where she's at the school board members AND teachers would probably be shot or have something else violent happen to them. This shit isn't everywhere in California.
Posted by: JROD at December 08, 2021 06:30 PM (0jZnq)
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I lived in Susanville. I can believe it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (AlkyK)

235 Geddy Lee's horse died?
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:33 PM (CYnTg)


Yup. verified by checking his Vital Signs

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (mZUr4)

236 161 Wasn't he also the one to say: "You know what kind of education you need to be an 8th grade teacher? Ninth grade."

Which is a little unfair, but not really far off.

Yep, not entirely fair but the point was taken! - it was "So, you teach 9-12, so you need a grade 13 education."

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (Bmy3R)

237 I'd like to thank all those union teachers out there, for doing so much in the last two years to promote the charter, voucher, and homeschool movements.

Posted by: Splunge at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (PQ4Fz)

238 > Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?

Grant Imahara

Posted by: Myth Confirmed! at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (sG4Hj)

239 197 So who will molest the children on those days when the teachers don't come?
Posted by: Eromero


Parents will be expected to drop their kids off at the teacher's house.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 08, 2021 06:35 PM (57IqW)

240 Earthquakes coming...

CA is a state that was literally founded and settled by a saint, a man whose whole existence was to bring souls to Christ. Satan is trying to get back the souls he lost to St Junipero Serra. Christ is victorious, but he sure is taking his time...

Posted by: Sassy at December 08, 2021 06:36 PM (xSICi)

241 Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?
Posted by: JT


Lou Grant.

He hates it when Rhoda comes by and decorates it ...

Posted by: Adriane the Technically Insufficient Critic ... at December 08, 2021 06:36 PM (okV1R)

242 Used to lecture to a friend's college class a few times a year (until he was squeezed out by the idiot freaks in the department - he was just an adjunct - because, of course, he actually had some knowledge and experience of the subject).

Also used to help him grade papers (port and cigars). And his office hour stories.

These were seniors at a big state university. The level of illiteracy, the complete inability to think, were stunning. Of course there were exceptions. The veterans were almost always much better. Foreign-born students, ditto. The brainwashing, and the simple lack of education, is breath-taking.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:36 PM (OTzUX)

243 Geddy Lee's horse, Rocinante, died?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 08, 2021 06:36 PM (Bmy3R)

244 The Teachers' union, and all their goons did not then, and to this day do not give a rat's ass about education. Fuck 'em.

JWM
Posted by: jwm

Now do Nursing unions.
And Local, State, and Fed unions.

Unions might have been needed in 1920 but all unions are simply graft now.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 06:36 PM (iMZHt)

245 In theory, the college freshman class I teach could be done entirely online. Indeed it was for about a year. However, it's VERY clear that students do want to come to class and learn with their fellow students. There's always about 10-15% that don't, but that choice is *theirs* not mine. They are free to attend or not attend class, but it's their loss when they don't learn much. I may procrastinate when it comes to preparing for class, but I am ALWAYS prepared and ready to go when it's time. I can't abide lazy professors or teachers...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (R945f)


I think by the end of high school, many kids have the discipline to learn their chosen profession without having to be there in person (when feasible). The socialization process is complete, and you've figured out you're going to play the game or not. This isn't possible for a 4th grader by any stretch.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:37 PM (wAnMi)

246
Maybe the time is ripe for conservatives to stop bitching about the education system and instead enter into the field and drive out the inept, apathetic and sexually perverse liberal teachers that don't want to work.

Maybe we could take the country back by teaching the next generation of patriotic Americans.

Or not.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM


My perception of teaching was of a Venn diagram of teaching the children, making their experience of coming to school so exciting that their absentee rate was nearly zero, having the parents thrilled that their child was so excited that they were overjoyed and willingly paid for both the private school and public schools.

The third circle of that Venn diagram? Some big fat liberal woman in charge and making her happy? Didn't happen. I bailed. The school failed within five years under her fat miserable tutelage. Did I mention she was fat and miserable and a liberal pos?

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 08, 2021 06:37 PM (dQvv7)

247 Geddy Lee's horse died?

Complications from Covid.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:38 PM (Xrfse)

248 Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?

Posted by: JT



John McCain

Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:38 PM (786Ro)

249 Sexton quotes this posting from a "veteran public school teacher" ...

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Isn't it time to show the appreciation of a grateful nation by awarding all of them Medals of Honor (with the special Snowflake Cluster), Green Berets, and Purple Hearts?

After all, Everyday is like a D-Day at the beach for teachers now ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 08, 2021 06:38 PM (7hFx5)

250 Hey for the male teachers, those Friday "mental health days" will henceforth be known as "Toobin Time".

Same thing goes for the female teachers who can afford a vibrator.

Posted by: GlendaleGreybeard at December 08, 2021 06:38 PM (cn6vO)

251 168 Maybe the time is ripe for conservatives to stop bitching about the education system and instead enter into the field and drive out the inept, apathetic and sexually perverse liberal teachers that don't want to work.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger
_________

Yes, and the time is ripe for useless GOPe legislators to work to eliminate the requirement of an education degree to teach.

I have a postgraduate degree and a work background that qualifies me to teach college (other than that whole wanting to kill communists thing I've got going on and probably won't be able to shake). Mrs. Furious is the co-author of a school textbook. But are we qualified to teach at the local schools? Nope.

We've resigned ourselves to never being able to be heroes.

Posted by: Furious George at December 08, 2021 06:38 PM (9vQJW)

252 Remember the days of bumperstickers that imagined a world where DoD had to hold a bakesale for a bomber?

It's a tossup who has pissed away their reputation with the public more, journalists or teachers.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 08, 2021 06:38 PM (5p7BC)

253 John McCain
Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:38 PM (786Ro)

John McCain's buried?

Posted by: Boswell at December 08, 2021 06:39 PM (5iUNf)

254
So wait,

the marxist fake front group for Soros/Democrats, "blm," is saying they can't "believe" the two white nigerians, either??

Are the two white nigerian brothers also police?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:39 PM (2u35I)

255 Jordan Peterson got the jab because he believed it would return us to "normal"
Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (786Ro)

What a fucktard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 06:39 PM (P3gRi)

256 "the Lord's mill grinds slowly, but it grinds exceedingly fine".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 06:39 PM (03BbD)

257 248 Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?
Posted by: JT

John McCain

Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:38 PM (786Ro)


Not yet. The funeral is still in-progress.

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2021 06:39 PM (AMIL/)

258 John McCain hasn't been buried yet. Funeral is still going...

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (CYnTg)

259 John McCain's buried?
Posted by: Boswell at December 08, 2021 06:39 PM (5iUNf)

And yet the funeral goes on.

Jon Bon Jovi is playing tonight.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (Bmy3R)

260 Quote Tweet Townhall.com @townhallcom; 2h
BIDEN: "We're making progress. We're going to keep at it to ensure the American people are paying their fair share for gas." [video here]

Tom Elliott @tomselliott; 2h
Mission: Accomplished

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (UHVv4)

261 Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?

Posted by: JT

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Cary, Cary, Cary ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (7hFx5)

262 Geddy Lee's horse died?
Posted by: steevy at December 08

If it had to listen to him sing, it likely killed itself.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (Vxu+H)

263 This isn't possible for a 4th grader by any stretch.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:37 PM (wAnMi)
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Agreed. My sister teaches 6th grade English. She says she and her fellow teachers spent as much time teaching students life skills (preparing for class, showing up on time, etc.) as they did teaching them the subject matter. A lot of students rose to the challenge and developed much better habits of personal responsibility. Not all of them, of course. I'm sure their parents played a role (on both sides).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (R945f)

264 the laptop class

...the laptop class

guess who is going to keep getting laid off, hundreds at a time, via Zoom call?

yep. because answering emails and participating in zoom calls all day isn't actually that productive.

and firing people who are never in the office and you don't have to see every day.

is easy.

Posted by: Black Orchid the Unboosted at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (j9HX3)

265
blm says they believe the light-skinned gay black hollywood celery over the dark-skinned black African immigrants

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (2u35I)

266 Kids getting an education in public schools suffer a serious academic loss. But they get plenty of teaching on racism, how evil white people are, how they're probably transexual, and how evil their parents are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (KZzsI)

267 Still at zero total Omicron deaths worldwide per the MSM and WHO btw.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Perhaps we should deploy the lampposts to drive the numbers up a little...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at December 08, 2021 06:41 PM (5G5QC)

268 Yes, and the time is ripe for useless GOPe legislators to work to eliminate the requirement of an education degree to teach.
Posted by: Furious George

for most any other government job, any old degree will do.

Posted by: x at December 08, 2021 06:41 PM (oA+QO)

269 Jordan Peterson got the jab because he believed it would return us to "normal"

Guess he was wrong.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:41 PM (Xrfse)

270 As an actual member of the laptop class, I'm ashamed of the laptop class.

We're not all like that.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 08, 2021 06:41 PM (Bmy3R)

271 And kudos to Kilroy and jwm (and others) for sharing their direct experiences here. Always better to have input from extensive and relevant direct experience.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:41 PM (OTzUX)

272 General Lee was wondering why the Russian ambassador was so keen to meat meet Traveller.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:42 PM (UHVv4)

273 Nobody teaches in L.A.

Posted by: Dale Bozio at December 08, 2021 06:42 PM (786Ro)

274 I have a theory about the Finland PMinx.

She had her phone and got the text and everything. But there was actually some sort of personal text that she got and ignored, and it caused some sort of relational blow-up.

So to preserve that, she's selling the story that she left her phone at home and didn't even get the text about having to quarantine, so there is public proof that she didn't see this other text.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2021 06:42 PM (z9npv)

275
blm says they believe the light-skinned gay black hollywood celery over the dark-skinned black African immigrants

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (2u35I)

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"White adjacent," Sooth.

"White adjacent black African immigrants."

Get it straight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 06:42 PM (2ABQr)

276 Insisting that teachers must have an Education degree, which is issued by the college departments where the dumbest people (except those in the "Studies" departments, of course) congregate, is asking to have mediocre schools.

Posted by: Splunge at December 08, 2021 06:43 PM (PQ4Fz)

277 These were seniors at a big state university. The level of illiteracy, the complete inability to think, were stunning. Of course there were exceptions. The veterans were almost always much better. Foreign-born students, ditto. The brainwashing, and the simple lack of education, is breath-taking.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:36 PM (OTzUX)


Critical thinking is dead. It's almost surreal to talk to some college age kids, and some things that seem so obvious, so common sense are absolutely beyond them. And when explained (if it doesn't hurt their feelings or pronouns or whatever) it's like an epiphany for them. Truly frightening.

The last one that comes to mind (can't remember how it started) was a small group of kids not being able to comprehend how you can point a video camera at a monitor, and see "infinite" monitors/motion. I swear, all 21 year olds and you'd think I flicked a bic in front of a bunch 3rd century peasants.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:43 PM (wAnMi)

278 As a member of the "laptop class", which probably covers a fair number of us, I can say that it's not all it's cracked up to be.

I have 2 children in public school, and in a district that went to 4 days a week a couple years ago, and really I absolutely despise the school superintendent and have told him on at least one occasion that he would resign if he had any shame at all. Over e-mail. So doesn't actually count.

But in the end, no matter how bad the schools get, no matter how bad the teachers are, my children's education is my responsibility. And these indignities, indignant though they may make us all, only serve to reinforce that.

Posted by: Andy_in_Colorado at December 08, 2021 06:43 PM (CBrao)

279 >>> National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom."
Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (NpAcC)


Its their truth.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 08, 2021 06:43 PM (a1pQd)

280 Who's buried in Grant' Tomb ?
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The Mr. and Mrs.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 08, 2021 06:43 PM (vuisn)

281 I've had a fair amount of abuse from parents when their internet goes down, or if they are in an area that doesn't have fast service. If the teachers can't do their jobs, they need to be fired.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 08, 2021 06:43 PM (YynYJ)

282 Quote Tweet Townhall.com @townhallcom; 2h
BIDEN: "We're making progress. We're going to keep at it to ensure the American people are paying their fair share for gas." [video here]
Tom Elliott @tomselliott; 2h
Mission: Accomplished
Posted by: andycanuck

Fuck that retarded incompetent incontinent cocksucker. May he shuffle off this mortal coil of painful natural causes.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at December 08, 2021 06:44 PM (5G5QC)

283
Jordan Peterson got the jab because he believed it would return us to "normal"
Posted by: Hands at December 08, 2021 06:10 PM (786Ro)

What a fucktard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 06:39 PM


Give him another twenty years to wise up and he might be something. It took him twenty years of clinical experience before he stepped into the political arena. Meanwhile, every time he f's up I know the day gets closer to when he'll get a clue. He's just a very, very, very, very slow learner.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 08, 2021 06:44 PM (dQvv7)

284 230 National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom."

Well, there ya go. Not much else to say.
Posted by: Notorious BFD



That is...something wonderful.
https://youtu.be/rfvQ9yQjTl4

BLM has to be one of the greatest Grifts out there right now. I mean they just stay on script. Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 06:44 PM (sAmhv)

285 Critical thinking is a skill like any other hand must be taught. It can be picked up on your own but only someone truly unusual and gifted can attempt it. Young people are not able to engage in rational critical thought because they are not being TAUGHT how to do so. Their teachers do not want them to do so, and their parents don't give a crap.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2021 06:44 PM (KZzsI)

286 Didn't Walker in WI manage to get tenure abolished at state universities?

That's a very small start, but a great one. Don't know where that stands, and if any other states have followed suit.

Academic tenure, and judicial lifetime appointments.

Two things with a solid rationale at the time they were adopted, but which the degradation of the populace and culture, the collapse of standards and integrity and self-respect, have rendered pernicious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:45 PM (OTzUX)

287 Unions might have been needed in 1920 but all unions are simply graft now.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 06:36 PM (iMZHt)

...

We need union busting for a lot of the same reasons that unions were needed in the first place.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2021 06:45 PM (z9npv)

288 Splunge, you could not be more correct.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 06:45 PM (CdA/y)

289 Jordan Peterson got the jab because he believed it would return us to "normal"
====
Guess he was wrong.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Yes, and he admitted he was wrong.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:45 PM (UHVv4)

290 Once again My give a duck meter is pegged at zero point zero. It is CA. It is a cesspool. They voted for this. Get it good and hard.

And yes I understand not every Californian voted for it. But if you choose to live there, well, that is on you.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 08, 2021 06:45 PM (JPh1I)

291 217 Guy Benson
@guypbenson
National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom."
Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (NpAcC)


Or, in other words, we know the guy's lying like a Schiff, but we support him because otherwise it would disrupt our narrative.

Attach a resume to that cover letter, and you could get hired by CNN in an instant.

Posted by: Splunge at December 08, 2021 06:46 PM (PQ4Fz)

292 Quote Tweet Townhall.com @townhallcom; 2h
BIDEN: "We're making progress. We're going to keep at it to ensure the American people are paying their fair share for gas." [video here]
Tom Elliott @tomselliott; 2h
Mission: Accomplished



While turning off the fuel spigot in this country. Well done, President Broke Brain. Well done.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 06:46 PM (sAmhv)

293 273 Nobody teaches in L.A.
Posted by: Dale Bozio
_________

It's because they're all missing.

Posted by: Furious George at December 08, 2021 06:46 PM (9vQJW)

294 One of the more depressing things is watching videos of young people learning basic skills and common sense, or seeing them post on social media amazed at something previous generations grew up knowing

TIL THAT IF YOU STICK YOUR FACE INTO AN OPEN FLAME THAT IT HURTS!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2021 06:46 PM (KZzsI)

295 If you had storm damage, and you qualify for federal aid, you got em justemuckty mount'a damn uh money money to get you back to exactly what it look like before.

https://bit.ly/3DCaf4q

Posted by: President Full Diaper at December 08, 2021 06:46 PM (sG4Hj)

296 Jordan Peterson really isn't all that "smart". He just repeats what was always Common Knowledge until about 30 or 40 years ago, and he impresses youngsters who've never heard any of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 06:46 PM (trdmm)

297 By " fair share" he means Europe like so yeah

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:47 PM (CYnTg)

298 PMILF, and PMinx.

Nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:47 PM (OTzUX)

299 @234 Captain Obvious-I've been spending time up in the Susanville, Johnstonville, Janesville and other "villes' around the area meeting her friends and other people at community gatherings. I grew up in the Reno/Sparks area and moved to the Bay Area for work. One thing I can say is being up in that area the people are nothing like the Californians here in the Bay. When I go up there it's like not being in California.Right now the citizens of Susanville discovered the local Napa Auto Parts store hired a pedophile.I've been watching things transpire and evolve on Facebook in comments. I can tell you the guy better get out of town and/or Napa better get rid of him because they will go out of business. Them ranchers don't F around up there.

Posted by: JROD at December 08, 2021 06:47 PM (0jZnq)

300 294 One of the more depressing things is watching videos of young people learning basic skills and common sense, or seeing them post on social media amazed at something previous generations grew up knowing

TIL THAT IF YOU STICK YOUR FACE INTO AN OPEN FLAME THAT IT HURTS!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2021 06:46 PM (KZzsI)

Ah, but think of how many new inventions you can patent in our dark age future.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2021 06:47 PM (z5Vrg)

301 Celery?? I thought he was a fruit??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:47 PM (UHVv4)

302 Late to the HQ today; what's this about ace salting lutefisk?

It's already salted. Wouldn't Cream of Lutefisk Soup be better?

Posted by: Thorvald at December 08, 2021 06:47 PM (gPUAf)

303 Pay attention to fact that every time Bribe'em mentions jobs it always "good paying Union jobs"

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 06:48 PM (CdA/y)

304 California needs to be inclusive and hire 'undocumented' teachers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 06:48 PM (Q/4Cu)

305 81M voters (or something close) heard the vile vegetable say he would shut down the oil industry, and liked what they heard.

Great job, America! Enjoy!

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 06:48 PM (OTzUX)

306 Unions and communism. They are inseparable. Always was, always will be.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 08, 2021 06:48 PM (o2MD2)

307 Some of us are at the last gates of civilization against the Visigoths (and Gauls and Vandals).
Abandon us ("we happy few" to mix allusions) and you abandon civilization.
Find out who we are at your schools and demand that your children are assigned to us and support us.
Of course, do what's best for your own child in your own area, but in order to rescue the community, rescue the schools.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at December 08, 2021 06:48 PM (REJkJ)

308 291 217 Guy Benson
@guypbenson
National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom."
Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (NpAcC)

I wonder what they have to say about the two Black guys who are more black than Jussie is, who both testified that Jussie did it. Do you believe them?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 06:49 PM (trdmm)

309 Jordan Peterson really isn't all that "smart". He just repeats what was always Common Knowledge until about 30 or 40 years ago, and he impresses youngsters who've never heard any of that.

He expresses it well but yes, what he's stating is just something everyone knew 50 years ago. That's how far our culture has fallen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2021 06:49 PM (KZzsI)

310 303 Yeah and those good paying union jobs are going to result in lower prices. Yeah, he said that...

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:49 PM (CYnTg)

311 I was reading the PDT Tax Cuts moved the rich ($500k) from paying 41% to over 50% from 2017 to 2018.

The BBB will reverse this to around 39%

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:49 PM (yrol0)

312 Captain Obvious-I've been spending time up in the Susanville, Johnstonville, Janesville and other "villes' around the area
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If you haven't already, check out the brew pub in the old Pioneer Saloon downtown. Good beer and quite good food.

Now I'm all hungry.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 08, 2021 06:49 PM (AlkyK)

313 Thorvald, I have your cup you magnificent bastard.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 06:50 PM (CdA/y)

314 Hey Ben Had.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 06:50 PM (mVFGK)

315 Portland Public School teachers are demanding the same shit... the School District has told them no... it's a matter of time before they cave into the teacher's demands.

We know who drives Public education in the country... it's the fucking NEA and AFT.

Posted by: Pimp Daddy Welfare at December 08, 2021 06:50 PM (mLNyo)

316 299 Right now the citizens of Susanville discovered the local Napa Auto Parts store hired a pedophile.I've been watching things transpire and evolve on Facebook in comments. I can tell you the guy better get out of town and/or Napa better get rid of him because they will go out of business. Them ranchers don't F around up there.
Posted by: JROD at December 08, 2021 06:47 PM (0jZnq)


One of the many things I liked about the Coen brothers' movie O Brother, Where Art Thou is that it depicted the lost cultural practice of running someone out of town on a rail.

Posted by: Splunge at December 08, 2021 06:50 PM (PQ4Fz)

317 306 Unions and communism. They are inseparable. Always was, always will be.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 08, 2021 06:48 PM (o2MD2)

It workers vs. capital instead of worker with Capital.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:50 PM (yrol0)

318 Quote Tweet: Marshall Cohen @MarshallCohenl; 5h
DOJ just unsealed charges against Jan. 6 rioter Thomas Conover of Texas. Prosecutors say he drank a beer while storming the US Capitol and filmed a video where he said, "I don't always storm the Capitol of the United States of America. But when I do, I prefer Coors Light."

Greg Price @greg_price11; 4h
This was literally the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:51 PM (UHVv4)

319
I swear, all 21 year olds and you'd think I flicked a bic in front of a bunch 3rd century peasants.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 06:43 PM (wAnMi)

One of the most fascinating things about our society (at least to me) is the technological barbarism. The American legacy of innovation has left us with an enormous inherited wealth of advanced technology at a time when the atrophied cultural life of the nation is causing more and more intellectual regression.

There are a million examples, but the whole post-modern subjective reality of "my truth" is one I like to point out. It is, with no differences, solipsism. A nearly prehistoric worldview that was left in the dust by the ancient Greeks. Practically caveman level thinking, from affluent University-educated people with iPhone 10s, spreading it across space-based telecom networks to the other benighted urban serfs.

This is a moment in time, and it will pass, but it sure is weird and interesting to watch it happening.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 06:51 PM (2ABQr)

320 I did see the clip of Sundowner and the people will pat for gas, it was more a whack at gas companies than the usual rhetoric you would get from a Green religious Leftist. He was bragging gas went down a few cents.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 06:51 PM (2JoB8)

321 Getting three months off in the Summer is not enough.

Okay, you want to work 4 "days"* a week? Fine. Let's cut your pay 20%.

*They never worked full days.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 08, 2021 06:51 PM (rDgjh)

322 >Geddy Lee's horse, Rocinante, died?
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 08, 2021 06:36 PM (Bmy3R)

Speaking of Rocinante, I'm stoked that the final season of The Expanse starts on Friday.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 06:52 PM (cSs/W)

323 Most people still think teachers are Aunt Bee types who love chirruns and America.

Most are just scumbag layabouts who shouldn't be any where near chirruns and should be sucking dick for a living in the Dollar Store parking lot behind the dumpster.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2021 06:52 PM (R/m4+)

324 Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:51 PM (UHVv4)
Anyone drinking Coors Light ought to be prosecuted.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 08, 2021 06:52 PM (o2MD2)

325 318 Well yeah, I mean drinking Coors Lights. Same going in as it is going out...

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 06:53 PM (CYnTg)

326 Yes, and he admitted he was wrong.

Good on him.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:53 PM (Xrfse)

327 Wish wife had 40 hr week. In at 715 out at 6 ish. Teaches special Ed life skills. Could say fuck it and just babysit but is determined that most can learn and teaching is her passion. All the paperwork is a killer and the transfers of kids where it was babysitting is heartbreaking. This is Texas and they went back full time at beginning of year and she hated the remote crap of last year.

Posted by: FtWorthMike at December 08, 2021 06:53 PM (7jTtI)

328 actually, they should be counteroffered both Monday and Friday off. they aren't that good at teaching anyway.

Posted by: x at December 08, 2021 06:53 PM (oA+QO)

329 Geddy Lee's horse died?
Posted by: steevy at December 08

If it had to listen to him sing, it likely killed itself.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2021 06:40 PM (Vxu+H)


*glares while playing Jacob's Ladder turned up to 11*

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 06:54 PM (mZUr4)

330 @312 Captain Obvious-Already been to the Pioneer with my girlfriends son. I agree, they have pretty good grub.

Posted by: JROD at December 08, 2021 06:54 PM (0jZnq)

331 I wonder what they have to say about the two Black guys who are more black than Jussie is, who both testified that Jussie did it. Do you believe them?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 06:49 PM (trdmm)

...

They were wearing MAGA hats, and we have to trust Jussie that they're actually sort of pale.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2021 06:54 PM (z9npv)

332 Portland teachers want to do this too, and they are getting enormous pushback from left-wing parents, who know perfectly well that "remote learning" sucks, and that it has harmed their kids.

Oregon even cancelled standardized exams for three years, so people can't see what a disaster the school shutdowns were.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2021 06:54 PM (I2/tG)

333 304 California needs to be inclusive and hire 'undocumented' teachers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at Decem

Don't give 'em any ideas, they may think the idea is brilliant.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 06:54 PM (6z9vr)

334 >We know who drives Public education in the country... it's the fucking NEA and AFT.
Posted by: Pimp Daddy Welfare at December 08, 2021 06:50 PM (mLNyo)

Welp, the OEA owns the Oregon Democrat Party, therefore they are our de facto rulers in this fine state.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 06:54 PM (cSs/W)

335 AOC says you will pay your fair share for gas she would be talking $5

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 06:55 PM (2JoB8)

336 Schools rarely have a month go by without at least one day off for teachers anyway, usually more than one. It was getting ridiculous by the time I graduated in '83, I can only imagine what its like now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2021 06:55 PM (KZzsI)

337 https://tinyurl.com/3adpwb6p

They missed Goat Fucker

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 06:56 PM (yrol0)

338 SMH! I got a little Toni Braxton going on in here.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 06:56 PM (CdA/y)

339 My stepson, who wants nothing to do with me, and his wife, who also wants nothing to do with me, are teachers in California.
I think they're good teachers.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at December 08, 2021 06:23 PM (eGTCV)

If the reason they want nothing to do with you is based upon your political orientation, then they are shitty teachers. That, you can take to the bank.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 06:56 PM (P3gRi)

340 Teach your own kids?

Your proposal is acceptable.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2021 06:56 PM (rBtIz)

341 Good CA school news?!

Quote Tweet: Los Angeles Times @latimes; 19h
About 34,000 L.A. Unified School District students have not yet complied with the vaccine mandate.

And there's now no longer enough time for those who haven't gotten their first jab to be fully vaccinated by the start of the second semester

Ezra Levant @ezralevant; 5h
This looks like bad news. Because it is so cruel and immoral and likely illegal.

But perhaps it is good news, even wonderful news.

34,000 students liberated from one of the worst-performing school boards in America; who could be home-schooled, or to go better schools.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 06:57 PM (UHVv4)

342 251 168 Maybe the time is ripe for conservatives to stop bitching about the education system and instead enter into the field and drive out the inept, apathetic and sexually perverse liberal teachers that don't want to work.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger

IN theory that's nice, but in practice impossible, because the real problem isn't the teachers, it's the corrupt school administrations that enable and promote bad teachers, because it suits their political goals.

Taking back school boards is a start, but I honestly think that none of this can be fixed until we destroy public education as an option in this country - it is too far corrupted to be fixed, it has to burned down and rebuilt.

I also think the same applies to many universities - maybe half of what we have now is worth keeping, but half of it needs to be burned to the ground. All of that is a *prerequisite* to any real reform.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 06:57 PM (trdmm)

343 If Dr. Peterson was wrong to get the shots, he has a hell of a lot of company.
Age 60 and over were being recommended and DJT said "do it".

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2021 06:57 PM (jTmQV)

344 California needs to be inclusive and hire 'undocumented' teachers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 06:48 PM

You mean they don't?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2021 06:59 PM (rBtIz)

345 343 If Dr. Peterson was wrong to get the shots, he has a hell of a lot of company.
Age 60 and over were being recommended and DJT said "do it".

I'm one of them... Wouldn't do it again...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2021 06:59 PM (Q1i0Y)

346 if you want to know the level of corruption of any educational establishment, ask if it's possible for any teacher to be hired who insists that there are only Two Genders.

If the answer is no, then that institution is lost, and is already too far gone to be saved.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 06:59 PM (trdmm)

347 Feel like I've been swimming up the Colorado River for going on three years now. Ah is tahred.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:59 PM (Xrfse)

348 I met the builder while looking at a new house today and he asked me if I was vaxed. Oh hell no I said and we fistbumped.

Posted by: x at December 08, 2021 06:59 PM (oA+QO)

349 >>Speaking of Rocinante, I'm stoked that the final season of The Expanse starts on Friday.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 06:52 PM (cSs/W)

Me as well. Thorough enjoyable waste of time for me.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 08, 2021 06:59 PM (pAbBP)

350 Check out all these different configurations of 3d printed 1911 frames.

https://bit.ly/31LQPwQ

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2021 07:00 PM (sG4Hj)

351 Oh I don't see why illegal aliens won't be hired as teachers and state employees soon. Why not? Some places already let them vote.

Clown country, clown culture.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 07:00 PM (OTzUX)

352 When shots first came out no one in the public knew of a hazard, and the Big Pharma didn't want anyone to know.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (2JoB8)

353 I also think the same applies to many universities - maybe half of what we have now is worth keeping, but half of it needs to be burned to the ground."

An essay I read, referring to the University of California at Berkeley, referred to Cal-1 and Cal-2. Cal-1 is the institution that still cranks out Nobel Prize winners in chemistry, physics, and economics; and Cal-2 is the bureaucracy, the diversity mongers, the "studies" departments, and all the rest of it.

Every year, Cal-1 gets smaller, and Cal-2 gets bigger.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (I2/tG)

354 @316 Splunge-From what I'm reading in the comments on Facebook that is basically what's happening. The owner of the Napa is a lady that lives in Red Bluff. I think this pedo must have charmed her or something but things got heated and the stuff being said I'm surprised has made it past FB censors or not gotten attention of local law enforcement. If I were that guy I'd get the F out of Dodge. That Napa is going to be lucky if it remains in business. Everyone says they're taking their business to the local Autozone.

Posted by: JROD at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (0jZnq)

355 Feel like I've been swimming up the Colorado River for going on three years now. Ah is tahred.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 06:59 PM


Perhaps consider driving up Colorado Boulevard?

Posted by: Little Old Lady from Pasadena at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (gPUAf)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (I2/tG)

357 It's sad. Because I grew up in the 60s and early 70s and my teachers were great. Miss Nepi (the Principal) became Dr. Nepi and the shit flowed.

Most of my teachers in HS were solid. LOL. I remember the time I tried to kick a soccer ball against a big guy and coach had to carry me off the field. He respected me because I tried. It was only a sprane.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (rDgjh)

358
Taking back school boards is a start, but I honestly think that none of this can be fixed until we destroy public education as an option in this country - it is too far corrupted to be fixed, it has to burned down and rebuilt.

------

Like all of the institutions. This "get involved" routine is a platitude.

In this case, with education, play it through: you get, say, fifty thousand conservatives, somehow, against all odds, through the filters. Stealthily. You have them in place.

At that point, they have a choice: they can follow the Marxist curricula provided them. Or, they can deviate, and they'll be fired or rubber-roomed.

The Gramscian march works in one direction. The people who pulled it off know how it's done, and won't let it be done to them in turn.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (2ABQr)

359 SMH! I got a little Toni Braxton going on in here.
Posted by: Ben Had
___

lol

I'm checking out Logos Bible software.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (mVFGK)

360 >If Dr. Peterson was wrong to get the shots, he has a hell of a lot of company.
Age 60 and over were being recommended and DJT said "do it".
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2021 06:57 PM (jTmQV)

I don't give a damn if you personally want to put that shit in your body, but advising people to just comply in hopes that the government will stop tyrannizing you if you comply hard enough is stupid, even for someone as vapid as Peterson. I know he's not ignorant of history.

I will give him credit for publicly walking back his stance a bit, which is better than a lot of mRNA shot enthusiasts.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:02 PM (cSs/W)

361 Wait 'til ya hear Geddy Lee's duet album with Yoko Ono!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:03 PM (L2ZTs)

362 I think the vast majority of people who've gotten the shots won't be harmed by them. It's just that the minority who do have a bad reaction from the shot are greater than the minority who would have had a bad reaction from catching Covid itself, so it's a bad bet for society to make.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:03 PM (trdmm)

363
The 'good' teachers go home after the short day and grade papers and take note of who is deficient, prepare the next days lesson plan, shop for cool stuff to make the next days class more interesting, and end up putting in ten hours or so.

You're not gonna find that in public schools. School vouchers. Period. Something our (R) overlords could push but never do, except in a few red states. Maybe the time has finally arrived for the (R)'s to push this to the max. --- Who am I kidding. They don't GAF.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 08, 2021 07:03 PM (dQvv7)

364 I'm checking out Logos Bible software.
Posted by: SMH



I have that. I like it a lot. Just the free version. The other pay versions would be overkill for me. I'm not a seminary student.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:04 PM (sAmhv)

365 Cal-1? Cal-2?

Berkeley and UCLA.

LOL. UCSD (Cal-9?) has a few.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 08, 2021 07:04 PM (rDgjh)

366 "Portland teachers want to do this too, and they are getting enormous pushback from left-wing parents, who know perfectly well that "remote learning" sucks, and that it has harmed their kids."

Why would left-wing parents care? It's not as if actually getting a good education matters anymore? Or is it that they just want daycare?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:05 PM (KAi1n)

367 Dear teachers: most of you cvnts ARE responsible for many if not most of the ills of society. Why don't you set an example by reducing your "carbon footprint" by 100%.

(Yes, there's exceptions, but those are the exceptions that prove the rule).

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:05 PM (llON8)

368 >The Gramscian march works in one direction. The people who pulled it off know how it's done, and won't let it be done to them in turn.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 07:01 PM (2ABQr)

Right. That's why I tire of the "you deserve it" crowd around here, because throwing my life's effort away at a futile gesture sounds like a dumb way to try to change the system. I'm building my own redoubt and going to try to hunker down at this point. There's no going back, only through.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:05 PM (cSs/W)

369 finally arrived for the (R)'s to push this to the max. --- Who am I kidding. They don't GAF.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus

Supreme Court might choose to throw a wrench in the non-funding of private schools this term...
Then the Rs will have a reason to fight for vouchers for all.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 07:06 PM (iMZHt)

370 " ...
This is a moment in time, and it will pass, but it sure is weird and interesting to watch it happening.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2021 06:51 PM (2ABQr)"

innit, though ?
cognitive dissonance to the max ... until next week ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 07:06 PM (03BbD)

371 If you like Toni Braxton, you'll surely like Oleta Adams - https://tinyurl.com/3fs3v3sp

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 07:06 PM (Xrfse)

372 Wait 'til ya hear Geddy Lee's duet album with Yoko Ono!
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:03 PM (L2ZTs)


You too with the Rush hate??

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:07 PM (mZUr4)

373
Wait 'til ya hear Geddy Lee's duet album with Yoko Ono!
Posted by: qdpsteve


Too bad Tiny Tim is no longer around.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2021 07:07 PM (63Dwl)

374 Or is it that they just want daycare?
Posted by: SFGoth

Yup, if you have 2 people working you don't want today's kids home alone.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 07:07 PM (iMZHt)

375 Do they even have to show up, ever?
......

Only if they want hot sex with a student?

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:07 PM (v0R5T)

376 I think the vast majority of people who've gotten the shots won't be harmed by them. It's just that the minority who do have a bad reaction from the shot are greater than the minority who would have had a bad reaction from catching Covid itself, so it's a bad bet for society to make.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:03 PM (trdmm)
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I tend to agree. The human body is amazingly resilient. That's probably why the vaxx degrades so quickly over time. That doesn't change the fact that I find the government requiring me to get it is immoral, unethical, and a complete violation of my free will.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2021 07:07 PM (R945f)

377 This is an easily broad brush subject. There are lots of very good teachers out there that go above and beyond. The twentysomething that just got hired just isn't going to cut the mustard.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 07:08 PM (CdA/y)

378 Doof, I don't hate Rush. In fact I have three of their albums: Signals, Grace Under Pressure, and Power Windows.

I know I still need to get 2112 and Moving Pictures.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:08 PM (L2ZTs)

379 Bertram, that would make Guantanamo's day!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:08 PM (L2ZTs)

380 This happened in our schools (Buncombe County, NC). The kids were scheduled for going to school Monday and Tuesday before Thanksgiving. The school board less than two weeks before that changed it to remote learning days. They were also classified as "asynchronous learning days" which means the teachers just plopped the work down on the computer at 10am and the kids had until Monday 8am after Thanksgiving to complete the work!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (4B0vl)

381 Nood -- Quick Hits

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (mZUr4)

382 Why would left-wing parents care? It's not as if actually getting a good education matters anymore? Or is it that they just want daycare?

Ambitious left-wing parents want their kids to join the laptop class. If their kids get a shitty education, and they don't have any intersectionality points, that's not happening.

Also note that this is a big-city phenomenon. I live in a suburban Portland school district, and half the kids in my wealthy neighborhood are Asian, since the school district has a good reputation. If the local district tries to cut back to four days a week, the school board gets voted out, and they know it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (I2/tG)

383 >>> 217 Guy Benson
@guypbenson
National BLM organization statement on Smollett: "In our commitment to [police] abolition, we can never believe police...over Jussie Smollett, black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for black freedom."
Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2021 06:31 PM (NpAcC)

What color are the Nigerian brothers, dipshits? ...oh right, they're "not authentic".

Also, fck your rayciss capitalization.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (llON8)

384 Sorry I don't click Nevertrump Hotair links ever. Sexton doesn't belong with those grifters but he made his choice.

Posted by: viso Latte at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (Nopdp)

385 quick hits is nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (03BbD)

386 I have no sympathy for parents who use my tax dollars to get their kids indoctrinated into left wing politics. I taught my son home, and I assure you he learned the multiplication tables. If you want your kids taught by someone who calls it "times tables" and thinks a riot is a peaceful protest, then you are a lousy parent.

The only thing the teacher's unions are right about is that it is the parent's responsibility to educate their children. Giving your kid's to the government is child abuse.

Posted by: BurkeanMama at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (a+c/3)

387 I tend to agree. The human body is amazingly resilient. That's probably why the vaxx degrades so quickly over time. That doesn't change the fact that I find the government requiring me to get it is immoral, unethical, and a complete violation of my free will.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2021 07:07 PM (R945f)

You can be pro-vax and anti-mandate...I mean, that's been Trump and DeSantis's position forever now (now mentioned by the press covering Youngkin)...

Posted by: Nova local at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM (exHjb)

388 "Right. That's why I tire of the "you deserve it" crowd around here, because throwing my life's effort away at a futile gesture sounds like a dumb way to try to change the system. I'm building my own redoubt and going to try to hunker down at this point. There's no going back, only through.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:05 PM (cSs/W)"

I'm not even convinced there is something worth saving at this point, personally. The failure of our system to ward off leftist hijacking is too complete. I think armed conflict was baked into the cake in the late 60's, which was before I was even born.

This marxist shit has literally been a century long project.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM (6Xyqy)

389 Notorious BFD. Thanks.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM (CdA/y)

390 Boners in class
are a thing of the past

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM (v0R5T)

391 I do actually find amusing teachers complain this or that student turned out to be a evil monster but who had that monster day in and out in a school year?

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM (2JoB8)

392 Why would left-wing parents care? It's not as if actually getting a good education matters anymore? Or is it that they just want daycare?
Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:05 PM (KAi1n)

-----

They care only because a subset of kids staying home won't get the daily allowance of LBGT indoctrination.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 08, 2021 07:12 PM (4B0vl)

393

noooooodd



Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 07:12 PM (2u35I)

394
Even the dumb-ass parents that don't value education, and just want a taxpayer-funded place to dump their kids, are going to walk away from CA public schools. Because, the schools won't even do that anymore.

Note that at the same time that the public school teachers are trying to get paid without working, they hate hate hate charter schools, and scheme to put an end to them. Talking points such as the charter schools are poaching the best students etc., they got a million of em, all crap. We had some bloated creature from the local school district attack our kid's charter school at a hearing because its demographics were not an exact statistical match for the entire county. Shameless.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 08, 2021 07:13 PM (iC6E5)

395 You can be pro-vax and anti-mandate...I mean, that's been Trump and DeSantis's position forever now (now mentioned by the press covering Youngkin)...
Posted by: Nova local at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM (exHjb)
---
Of course! The problem, as the Architect in the Matrix movies said, is choice. Denying us our freedom to make choices in favor of a government mandate turns us into slaves of the State. Forever after. There is *nothing* they will not be able to make us do if/when this is fully implemented.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2021 07:13 PM (R945f)

396 Notorious BFD. Thanks.

Most welcome. An amazingly talented lady.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 07:14 PM (Xrfse)

397 Age 60 and over were being recommended and DJT said "do it".
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2021 06:57 PM (jTmQV)

Would you jump off a high bridge if DJT told you to do it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:15 PM (P3gRi)

398 It's a tossup who has pissed away their reputation with the public more, journalists or teachers.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Sad

Posted by: Public Health Officials at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (QzkSJ)

399 Way back when I graduated high school, the only kids who went to "teacher colleges" were in the left-hand side of the bell curve who expected to be able to party for four years.

Posted by: butch at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (cHvOo)

400 Dead thread but some Oleta live: https://tinyurl.com/5duyetws

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (Xrfse)

401
I do actually find amusing teachers complain this or that student turned out to be a evil monster but who had that monster day in and out in a school year?

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM


Sometimes it is the administrators of the school (and often parents) who push 'mainstreaming' (a fancy term for pushing those with behavior issues who should be in separate classrooms into regular classrooms). The teachers have no say over that practice and try to cope as best they can. But it is patently unfair to the children that have to sit next to that problem child - or children.

That's why I referred to a Venn diagram of parent, child, and administration. A good teacher will hit the most important two out of three, but in the current climate never all three. It is not possible. At least not for me, for which I will never apologize.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 08, 2021 07:27 PM (dQvv7)

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405 My ex-wife is a librarian in a public school system.

Things are truly fucked up.

That is all.

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