Quick Hits

A NeverTrumper lied about a Newsmax cover story entitled "Vlad the Great" being pro-Putin. In fact, it's anti-Putin -- the "Vlad the Great" title depicting him as a conqueror, which is his ambition, obviously -- and any investigation greater than "none whatsoever" would have discovered this.

But "any investigation greater than none whatsoever" was too much work for lazy, no-reading bluffing grifter and goldbricking nepot Jonah Goldberg, who immediately retweeted the defamatory claim.

Even after being told his original claim was a defamatory lie, the NeverTrumper retweeted it again, thus demonstrating NeverTrump's high regard for the truth and great personal integrity.

And just to make this all too perfect, this sassy little quisling with the dick-shaped mouth decided that he, too, had to jump on the No Reading Required Defamation Train as well.

So much Fidelity to the Truth. So much Commitment to Personal Honor.

A teacher and board member of the NEA -- the nation's largest teacher's union -- posted that those with religious objections to the vaccine should be shot. And not shot with vaccine needles, but shot with bullets.

Publisher cancels Fredo's book, which was to have been called Deep Denial. Not his own or his brother's or CNN's deep denial, but that which he claims that Trump and Republicans have about their failings.

Chris Cuomo now has been fired from both of his jobs and he's had his book canceled.

He'll be giving out handjobs under a bridge for fifteen dollars a man soon enough. Or, as he likes to call it, "Back to college!"

CNN is actually proud to announce it's "working with the White House" to massage its own economic news coverage to be more favorable to Joe Biden.

It congratulates itself on being willing toadies for the DNC, calling its presidential fellation sessions "productive."

cnnworkingwithwhitehousetomassageeconomicnews.jfif

If you're baffled at how a "news" network could not only admit this but boast about this, let me explain:

CNN is not a news network. You knew that, of course, but let me be elaborate. CNN is specifically a partisan shill organization whose viewers do not tune in for purposes of being "informed" but to see how CNN is propagandizing useful political messages to other viewers, "persuadable" low-information viewers.

In other words, CNN's "viewers" are primarily not interested in CNN as viewers themselves but are interested in CNN as a vehicle for propagandizing to other, persuadable low-information viewers.

But the joke's on them -- the only people watching CNN are rabid DNC partians. There are no "persuadable" low-information viewers CNN is propagandizing to; their viewers are exclusively the already-propagandized, and self-propagandizing.

And ALL CNN viewers are low-information viewers. Definitionally.

To continue: these viewers are angry at CNN for not reporting "the good news" about Biden's economy.

That is why CNN are bragging about this: they are telling their viewers "we have heard your legitimate complaints that we have not licked enough poo off Biden's shit" and we are now asking him to write our economic reports for us, so you should be happy now. The Biden Regime be writing our propaganda for us now, so we'll be better able to propagandize to those "other persuadable viewers" you think we're reaching but who do not in fact exist because you lunatics are the only people that watch this absolute fucking clownshow of incompetent North Korean State Media.

So this will be the official news on CNN shortly:

BIDEN: "We're making progress. We're going to keep at it to ensure the American people are paying their fair share for gas." pic.twitter.com/f41bFtbeEP
— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) December 8, 2021

Despite massive subsidies to his own industry -- electric cars -- Elon Musk says the Build Back Brandon bill is a disaster that should be canned.

Tesla founder Elon Musk tore into President Joe Biden's 'Build Back Better' plan Monday over over its regulatory framework – even as the plan prepares to provide big subsidies for electric cars.
Musk, who has gone after Democratic tax policies in the past, slammed the proposal in an interview with the Wall Street Journal.
'Rules and regulations are immortal,' he said. 'They don't die. The vast majority of rules and regulations live forever... there's not really an effective garbage collection system for removing rules and regulations, so this hardens the arteries of civilization where you are able to do less and less over time.
...
'Honestly, it might be better if the bill doesn't pass,' Musk told the Journal's CEO Council Summit.
'I'm literally saying get rid of all subsidies,' he said.
'It does not make sense to take the job of capital allocation away from people who have demonstrated great skill ... and give it to, you know, an entity that has demonstrated very poor skill in capital allocation, which is the government,' he said.

.@elonmusk just went full @ThomasSowell and completely destroys central planning in less than 30 seconds. #freemarkets pic.twitter.com/NqfzQz9hmb
— Nick Freitas (@NickForVA) December 7, 2021

Jimmy Fallon, Arianna Grande, and Megan Thee Fallon are treasures, by which I mean, they should be buried.

Kind of a good joke for a Norm MacDonald roast there.

Posted by: Ace at 07:08 PM

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1 Hey there

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:08 PM (mZUr4)

2 I'm not volunteering as barrel tribute

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (mZUr4)

3 Well done Doof!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (iMZHt)

4 Corgis have been called

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (mZUr4)

5 Well done Doof!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 07:09 PM (iMZHt)

WAAAYYYY too much time in front of my computer today

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM (mZUr4)

6 I have that. I like it a lot. Just the free version. The other pay versions would be overkill for me. I'm not a seminary student.
Posted by: Puddleglum

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Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 07:11 PM (mVFGK)

7

If it didn't get a laugh the first time, why repost it??

Posted by: four seasons at December 08, 2021 07:12 PM (PisyI)

8 He's starting a new career naked mud wrestling against Stormy Daniels at sleazy swap meets for cash.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:10

Why would a washed up porn star want to get naked with a never wss, never will be, fat boy?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at December 08, 2021 07:12 PM (eGTCV)

9 "When you choose an act, you choose the consequences of that act."

They think that means only what *they* want it to mean.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:12 PM (llON8)

10 Biden is an idiot. What more needs saying? Fair share for gas, WTAF does that mean?

Posted by: Goliad's Ghosts at December 08, 2021 07:12 PM (oWBc3)

11 ALL THE NEWS THAT'S FIT TO RAAWWK!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at December 08, 2021 07:13 PM (Tnijr)

12 Semi-pro wine drinker? That's a tarted up way to call Moo Moo a drunk.

Posted by: trev006 at December 08, 2021 07:13 PM (RJToO)

13 Shocker, Mollie Mau-Mau is a wine aunt

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:14 PM (cSs/W)

14 "CNN is specifically a partisan shill organization whose viewers do not tune in for purposes of being "informed" but to see how CNN is propagandizing useful political messages to other viewers, "persuadable" viewers."

That is meta! Wheels within wheels.

Posted by: gp Go Brrrrrr at December 08, 2021 07:14 PM (qpX6U)

15 So, the Mamau is doing a mau-mau (ie. Threatening people)?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2021 07:14 PM (poMoX)

16 oh no he's loose again.

Posted by: chango butt at December 08, 2021 07:15 PM (oSX/P)

17 Steve - you need to get everything from "Fly By Night" to "Moving Pictures", not just MP and 2112.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:15 PM (KAi1n)

18 Biden contemplating troops for Ukraine. Do it Slo, let's light this candle!

Posted by: Goliad's Ghosts at December 08, 2021 07:15 PM (oWBc3)

19 >We're going to keep at it to ensure the American people are paying their fair share for gas.

Yeah, you only use that particular verbiage when you think someone needs to be milked much harder. Haha, suckers, enjoy paying your "fair share" of your evil fossil fuels.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (cSs/W)

20 I guess a filly can transition to a stallion.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (63Dwl)

21 The combined IQ of all CNN on-air personnel might be 200.
How do they influence anyone?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (eGTCV)

22 Elon Musk is starting to look like a white Kid (of Kid and Play). He's right about the government, of course, although it is convenient for him to NOW be against subsidies.

Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (ZsR3z)

23 The Cuomo crime family has enough money they won't be begging anywhere. What they can't regain is power and that hurts them worse than anything.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (CdA/y)

24 People who use Brian Stelter and naked in the same sentence . . .

Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (YMrAv)

25 "We'll be in line for a booster"
........

Ariana Grande is pulling a train?

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (v0R5T)

26 Team Pfizer
You go girl

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:17 PM (2JoB8)

27 Chris Cuomo's book should have been titled "My Struggle". The German Language version would have been Lit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:17 PM (trdmm)

28 Biden contemplating troops for Ukraine. Do it Slo, let's light this candle!

Posted by: Goliad's Ghosts at December 08, 2021 07:15 PM (oWBc3)

Don't worry. It's not like he needs a major diversion for some reason.

Posted by: I mean at December 08, 2021 07:17 PM (WonZ8)

29 Your "fair share" for a gallon of gas is the FUCKING MARKET PRICE OF A GALLON OF GAS.

Tacking on more dollars on top of that just to fund your asinine vanity projects and graft troughs is the exact definition of "unfair".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:17 PM (6FeV1)

30 Making sure we are "paying [our] fair share for gas???"

Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2021 07:17 PM (CZb/v)

31 Booster being another term for shoplifter.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (63Dwl)

32 Musk seems to have picked up on the basics but comes across as naive. It's not that the people involved or observers on the outside don't know these things. The goal isn't the general welfare or the good of the American people.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (z5Vrg)

33 Jimmy Fallon, Arianna Grande, and Megan Thee Fallon are national treasures, by which I mean, they should be buried
.......

in the money pit at Oak Island.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (v0R5T)

34 you lunatics are the only people that watch this absolute fucking clownshow of incompetent North Korean State Media

We have yet to hear that Stutterin' Joe has played 18 holes and made 18 holes in one, now have we. That's integrity.

Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (ZsR3z)

35 Fuck that goonion educator scunt.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (5G5QC)

36 We're skipping who goes Nazi to who goes Pol Pot

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (/6GbT)

37 Fuck your troops, pervert, just give us our damn money back.

Posted by: The Ukraine at December 08, 2021 07:19 PM (6FeV1)

38 35 Jimmy Fallon, Arianna Grande, and Megan Thee Fallon are national treasures, by which I mean, they should be buried
.......

in the money pit at Oak Island.
Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (v0R5T)

Jimmy Fallon? In the money pit?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at December 08, 2021 07:19 PM (eGTCV)

39 11 Biden is an idiot. What more needs saying? Fair share for gas, WTAF does that mean?

Posted by: Goliad's Ghosts at December 08, 2021 07:12 PM (oWBc3)

Maybe it means that they pay more for gas in the EU than we do and we need to pony up tho make the cost more equitable?

Posted by: Javems at December 08, 2021 07:19 PM (AmoqO)

40 He'll be giving out handjobs under a bridge for fifteen dollars a man soon enough. Or, as he likes to call it, "Back to college!"
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Be fair, Ace. David French and Jonah Goldberg can afford to spend alot more than $15.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:19 PM (UHVv4)

41 Ariana's expression looks like the herpes are acting up.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:19 PM (v0R5T)

42 Megan T Stallion

Wut? Isn't that the broad that does lez pron? NTTAWWT. Also, didn't Ariana Grande sexually assault a donut a few years back? When she get out of jail?

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:19 PM (sAmhv)

43 ace, I've been using "North Korean" for press, public figures, and most importantly much of the American public for a while now. But it's OK, I won't charge any royalties.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (OTzUX)

44 Elon Musk.

The government is in a way the biggest corporation with a monopoly on violence. In which you have no recourse

The New World.

Posted by: Golfman at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (hOMhY)

45 F*** that goonion educator scunt.

I reject the characterization that this insect has ever "educated" anyone. One has to be educated to educate.

Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (ZsR3z)

46 Interesting thread:

Nothing pains me more than seeing footage of everyday people in everyday situations from as recently as 10-15 years ago and realizing just how uninhibited and "real" everyone looked and acted before pervasive social media destroyed it all.

https://tinyurl.com/2p96y3u6

Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (CZb/v)

47 Or, as he likes to call it, "Back to college!"

I think Norm would smile at your addition to his classic there

Posted by: x at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (oA+QO)

48 After watching that projectile vomit with fallon and those whores i just want it TO ALL END NOW

Posted by: Theos at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (Q+UiE)

49
If it didn't get a laugh the first time, why repost it??

Posted by: four seasons

Who are you, don fucking rickles?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- "fuck around and find out" at December 08, 2021 07:21 PM (2u35I)

50 "34 Musk seems to have picked up on the basics but comes across as naive. It's not that the people involved or observers on the outside don't know these things. The goal isn't the general welfare or the good of the American people.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2021 07:18 PM (z5Vrg) "

the learning curve takes time ... whether we have the time (or not) is the Big Question.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 07:21 PM (03BbD)

51 I miss Norm. Hearing him shit on all the woke stuff, and a room full of people crack up. . . that always gave me hope.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at December 08, 2021 07:21 PM (c4vBB)

52 He's starting a new career naked mud wrestling against Stormy Daniels at sleazy swap meets for cash.
Posted by: qdpsteve

OK, I laffed!

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 08, 2021 07:21 PM (OX9vb)

53 Behold the intellect and character of a very senior person in the "education" industry.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 07:21 PM (OTzUX)

54 "Biden contemplating troops for Ukraine."

Gangsters over there have the goods on the Bidens.

"Fuck You, Pay Me!"

Posted by: davidt at December 08, 2021 07:21 PM (0hbQ6)

55 I will say for with no reservations now - the BBB bill is going to fail. They will pass nothing, and it will be allowed to just die. Too much stuff is going wrong, and Dems are going to start trying to divorce their fates from Biden's.

they *might* not kill it this month, they might just table it for the holidays; but that will guarantee its death. By the time Congress comes back from Christmas vacation, everyone will be focused on positioning themselves for next years midterrms.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:21 PM (trdmm)

56 guessing Maumau bitch is morbidly obese

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 07:22 PM (CYnTg)

57 51 Popeyes had (and is now discontinuing) a Meghan Thee Stallion Hottie Sauce. That's the actual name.

I didn't even know you could make hot sauce taste like like a dirty ho.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)

The burn happens when you piss the next day.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:22 PM (6FeV1)

58 Watching an industry that once took pride in being anti-establishment rebels and eager to give authority the finger now become 100% full shills for an illegitimate regime has been one of the more depressing things of my adult life. (I work in the industry so it's a little more personal for me.)

Posted by: Tommy V at December 08, 2021 07:22 PM (GCivW)

59 They shoot horses, don't they?

Posted by: Just sayin' at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (B9PP+)

60 I love when liars get roasted with their own words.

Here's Paul Waldman, WaPo and American Prospect tool getting roasted.

https://bit.ly/31Ie0rU

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (sG4Hj)

61
Aren't we overdue for warmonger pervert lindsey graham to go on cable news to beat the war drums for Russia?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (2u35I)

62 Biden didn't say "fair" share, he said "fare" share.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (KAi1n)

63 Steve - you need to get everything from "Fly By Night" to "Moving Pictures", not just MP and 2112.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:15 PM (KAi1n)

And their last 2 albums - "Snakes and Arrows" and "Clockwork Angels".

A lot of Rush fans gave up on them when they added a lot of synth stuff in the 80s. (Signals through Presto). I don't agree, but I understand.

Tough for a lot of fans to embrace anything after that. Which is a shame because there is a bunch of fantastic rock music on Rush's albums from "Roll the Bones" through "Clockwork Angels".

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (mZUr4)

64 no kidding Lizzy, like night & day. A different world.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (03BbD)

65 As said downstairs Sundowner is bragging gas dropped $.05 and telling oil companies off, not as a AOC might say you should be paying $5 a gallon.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (2JoB8)

66 I think you may be interested in this:

Thursday, December 9 at 11:00 am CST for this FREE MASTERCLASS on how to maximize your Bible Study using Logos Bible Softwaret
https://tinyurl.com/bdcme8bw
Posted by: SMH

Except I work Thursdays. Thanks though. I've seen that mentioned before on Logos. Just haven't had a chance to check it out

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (sAmhv)

67 Mollie spelled "MauMau" wrong. Which is scarcely unexpected.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (P3gRi)

68 62 Love your work with Prong

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (CYnTg)

69 I wish I'd been here for this. It's exactly the problem.

Teachers have decided they are part of the "Laptop Class" they are so envious of, the upper middle class that can do almost all of their work remotely through a computer and via zoom meetings, and being envious of higher-status people, they've decided to convert teaching into a "Laptop Class" occupation against the wills of parents.

They're not that -- they're workers at a modest middle-class civil service job -- but they conceive of themselves as part of the Upper Middle Learned Classes and they're determined to gain both the salaries and non-pecuniary benefits that attend to those classes (Ed. without doing any actual work).

Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (ZsR3z)

70 For me Musk can't shake the stain of the electric car thing. As stupid luxury toys for those with the $$$, fine, whatever. But the whole thing is immutably tainted with theft and grift (subsidies, parking spaces, charging stations, HOV-lane privileges, etc), and of course reeks of illiterate "climate" idiocy.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (OTzUX)

71 A teacher and board member of the NEA ... posted that those with religious objections to the vaccine should be shot.

Love it when they talk like that.
Get all goose pimply on the inside.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (CLRL3)

72 Brainstomers at Fallons place came up with this idea in hopes of beating little Greg at Fox in the ratings?
Or there's gold in them "vaccine" hills.

Posted by: Fool Otto at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (DB16e)

73 I have very pleasant interactions with people of every ethnic group anytime I go to town. Fuck the gaslighting because there are still people that don't give a shit about your fucking mental problems.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (CdA/y)

74 Sooth keep saying Democrats say they meddling in our elections.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (2JoB8)

75 57 "Biden contemplating troops for Ukraine."

Gangsters over there have the goods on the Bidens.

-

The goods are out in the open. Just don't report it. No one cares.

Posted by: Tommy V at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (GCivW)

76 "CNN is specifically a partisan shill organization whose viewers do not tune in for purposes of being "informed" but to see how CNN is propagandizing useful political messages to other viewers, "persuadable" viewers."
====

Same for twatter.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (iDcra)

77 I will say for with no reservations now - the BBB bill is going to fail. They will pass nothing, and it will be allowed to just die. Too much stuff is going wrong, and Dems are going to start trying to divorce their fates from Biden's.

Shhhhh, dude, you'll jinx it.

Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (ZsR3z)

78 >>> 13 Semi-pro wine drinker? That's a tarted up way to call Moo Moo a drunk.
Posted by: trev006 at December 08, 2021 07:13 PM (RJToO)

*nods*

Ace uses his keyboard prettier than a 20 dollar whore.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:26 PM (llON8)

79 Fredo can do fake weight training vids with Brad Castleberry...

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:27 PM (II3Gr)

80 The notion that Stephen Curry is one the all time great NBA players is utterly absurd.

The three point shot is the most contrived invention in the the history of professional sports.

Put Curry in the 70s and he's a role-playing sharp shooter averaging 10 to 12 points a game.

Posted by: TC at December 08, 2021 07:27 PM (vEj4+)

81 For me Musk can't shake the stain of the electric car thing. As stupid luxury toys for those with the $$$, fine, whatever. But the whole thing is immutably tainted with theft and grift (subsidies, parking spaces, charging stations, HOV-lane privileges, etc), and of course reeks of illiterate "climate" idiocy.

This is largely true, but we have to take our friends where we can find them. He's also done some really outstanding work in developing engineering solutions to complex problems in an age when that's out of fashion.

Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:27 PM (ZsR3z)

82 11 Biden is an idiot. What more needs saying? Fair share for gas, WTAF does that mean?
Posted by: Goliad's Ghosts

It means that the Biden's admin purposeful choice to destroy national production of petroleum will be the fault of wreckers and looters (GOP, Corps, Wall Street, Unvaxed, etc) as the price of gas continues to skyrocket. #NOTBIDENSFAULT

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:28 PM (sAmhv)

83 Fallon just wants to lick Ariana's donut.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:28 PM (v0R5T)

84 Boosters are we place under a toddler's ass at Chucky Cheese.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 08, 2021 07:28 PM (BPuaD)

85 87 Oh noes all sports now are the greatest ever

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2021 07:28 PM (CYnTg)

86 I will say for with no reservations now - the BBB bill is going to fail. They will pass nothing, and it will be allowed to just die. Too much stuff is going wrong, and Dems are going to start trying to divorce their fates from Biden's.
===

Never underestimate the lust for power and control and money that your typical democrat has.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 08, 2021 07:29 PM (iDcra)

87 a random thought on the Legal Decisions that are going against the Biden Administration - mandates falling, abortion case, coming school voucher case, suit against Texas redistricting;
past, rational administrations (both Dem and GOP) knew that you don't jump into a bunch of battles that you might lose, because in politics perception becomes reality. If you are *seen* as a perennial loser, you *become* a perennial loser. Judges are (obviously) political creatures as well, and few want to take the risk of ruling against a popular administration.

BUT if that administration has taken outrageous claims, and is losing case after case on all levels, it becomes very easy to throw another log on the fire, so to speak. This is how Preference Cascades start. The Biden admin is fighting foolish battles to keep their hard left base satisfied - but fighting and losing so many battles that they could have avoided is going to be the thing that destroys them more completely than anything else they've done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:29 PM (trdmm)

88 "Put Curry in the 70s and he's a role-playing sharp shooter averaging 10 to 12 points a game."
Posted by: TC at December 08, 2021 07:27 PM (vEj4+)

Brian Winters.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 08, 2021 07:29 PM (4thlk)

89 You have to love veterans affairs math.
50% + 50% + 20% + 10% = 90%

90% of $3500 is $1800.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 08, 2021 07:30 PM (EfigE)

90 Will Wheaton posts here?

Who knew?

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2021 07:30 PM (1PHAH)

91 Except I work Thursdays. Thanks though. I've seen that mentioned before on Logos. Just haven't had a chance to check it out
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (sAmhv)
___

I just signed up for it, so I'll fill you in if you'd like.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 08, 2021 07:30 PM (mVFGK)

92 I will say for with no reservations now - the BBB bill is going to fail. They will pass nothing, and it will be allowed to just die. Too much stuff is going wrong, and Dems are going to start trying to divorce their fates from Biden's.

Just out of curiosity, are you saying this now because Tester has expressed doubts about the wisdom of the bill?

Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:30 PM (ZsR3z)

93 DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- Saudi authorities have conducted their biggest-ever crackdown on camel beauty contestants that received Botox injections and other artificial touch-ups, the state-run Saudi Press Agency reported Wednesday, with over 40 camels disqualified from the annual pageant.

Saudi Arabia's popular King Abdulaziz Camel Festival, which kicked off earlier this month, invites the breeders of the most beautiful camels to compete for some $66 million in prize money. Botox injections, face lifts and other cosmetic alterations to make the camels more attractive are strictly prohibited. Jurors decide the winner based on the shape of the camels' heads, necks, humps, dress and postures.

[And their plans for ~~world peace~~ killing all the Jooos.]

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (UHVv4)

94 The notion that Stephen Curry is one the all time great NBA players is utterly absurd.
------------
Jordan set him up for those 3 pointers. The whole team in those years wouldn't have been shit without him.

Posted by: dartist at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (+ya+t)

95 (Also thanks for your support a week ago when MisHum went insane)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (L2ZTs)

You just can't help yourself, can you? Open mouth, insert foot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (P3gRi)

96 Fallon just wants to lick Ariana's donut.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:28 PM (v0R5T)

Who doesn't except fags?

Posted by: TC at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (vEj4+)

97 I liked the Tonight Show better when it did comedy.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (ML53A)

98 He's starting a new career naked mud wrestling against Stormy Daniels at sleazy swap meets for cash.
Posted by: qdpsteve

..

One of the saddest videos I ever saw was Superfly Snooka at 70-something apparently still trying to tour to make $20 a day or whatever. Appearing at some carnival in front of not more than 12 people. It was sort of a documentary and they showed him in the trailer he lives in and how decrepit he has become, but then he still has to do his signature dive once per show.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (z9npv)

99 Never underestimate the lust for power and control and money that your typical democrat has.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 08, 2021 07:29 PM (iDcra)

I don't - but they can't get to 50 in the Senate, and they've already quit trying to come up with any kind of agreement that could get them there. I think the Dem senators know that if they did, the progs in the House would then kill it, so why bother? That's why they're going to go through the motions, but let it die.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:32 PM (trdmm)

100 This is largely true, but we have to take our friends where we can find them. He's also done some really outstanding work in developing engineering solutions to complex problems in an age when that's out of fashion.
Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:27 PM (ZsR3z)

Think of it this way: Every dollar Musk has grifted out of the public fisc is a dollar spent on an actual salary for actual people building actual things, and not spent on whatever Mengelesque horror-show torture porn Our Betters would have otherwise spent that money on.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:32 PM (6FeV1)

101 These vaccine prpoganda songs are satanic. Who's paying for them?

Posted by: Max Power at December 08, 2021 07:32 PM (Hucnr)

102 Maybe it's just me, but I thought a stallion was a male horse. My most sincere and groveling apology if it's some woke concept that I don't grok.

Posted by: wisenheimer at December 08, 2021 07:32 PM (ZHe3d)

103 "Friends"? Whatever. Space stuff is complicated, still some "public good" factor involved. That's not the issue. The taint is there.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 07:32 PM (OTzUX)

104 Does someone need a Taco Bell run?

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (1PHAH)

105 >>>The Biden admin is fighting foolish battles to keep their hard left base satisfied - but fighting and losing so many battles that they could have avoided is going to be the thing that destroys them more completely than anything else they've done.

Posted by: Tom Servo
-------------------

Creative destruction. (we're in the destructive phase right now)

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (CLRL3)

106 I'm pretty sure that "fair share for gas" comes from Biden's broken brain and he combined billionaires paying their fair share and lowering gas prices.

It's definitely not part of the dems messaging. They want gas to be expensive, but they would never admit it. At least not since Obama did.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (7cRTM)

107 "79 I have very pleasant interactions with people of every ethnic group anytime I go to town. Fuck the gaslighting because there are still people that don't give a shit about your fucking mental problems.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (CdA/y) "

THIS !
for some reason, out in rural America we don't seem to have any of the troubles that afflict dense urban (demonrat-run) areas.

always reminds me of the (no longer discussed) behavior studies done on rats back in the 60s (?) ... at some population density they go insane, in ways that would sound familiar ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (03BbD)

108 I'll pass, thanks.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (v0R5T)

109 104 Fallon just wants to lick Ariana's donut.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:28 PM (v0R5T)

Who doesn't except fags?
Posted by: TC at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (vEj4+)

Legit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (II3Gr)

110

No, nurse he'll shit his pants again and have to regale us with the details.

Posted by: four seasons at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (PisyI)

111 >>> 111 These vaccine prpoganda songs are satanic. Who's paying for them?
Posted by: Max Power at December 08, 2021 07:32 PM (Hucnr)

Not me.

Posted by: Stan at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (llON8)

112 rain man will never learn

Posted by: chango butt at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (oSX/P)

113 114 Does someone need a Taco Bell run?
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (1PHAH)
----------------

Taco Bell makes me run.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (CLRL3)

114 On the donut, not the Taco Bell.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:34 PM (v0R5T)

115 Who knows what fame lurks under these nics?

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:34 PM (2JoB8)

116 Botox injections, face lifts and other cosmetic alterations to make the camels more attractive are strictly prohibited.

==

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:34 PM (V13WU)

117 "Jordan set him up for those 3 pointers. The whole team in those years wouldn't have been shit without him."
Posted by: dartist at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (+ya+t)

? That wasn't Curry.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (4thlk)

118 I liked the Tonight Show better when it did comedy.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 08, 2021 07:31 PM (ML53A)

Are you going back to Carson?

Posted by: TC at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (vEj4+)

119 51 Popeyes had (and is now discontinuing) a Meghan Thee Stallion Hottie Sauce. That's the actual name.

I didn't even know you could make hot sauce taste like like a dirty ho.
Posted by: qdpsteve

What? You mean there is no market for BBQ Herpes?

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (sAmhv)

120 Those cinnamon balls at Taco Bell are pretty good when they don't screw them up.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (7cRTM)

121 >Aren't we overdue for warmonger pervert lindsey graham to go on cable news to beat the war drums for Russia?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (2u35I)

Saw that Joni Ernst, Rob Portman, and Mike Pompeo have already been making the rounds to beat the war drums.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (cSs/W)

122 Oh. Is this an Arby's event?

Poor thing. Maybe Shakeys. Or White Castle.

Poor thing.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (1PHAH)

123 112 Maybe it's just me, but I thought a stallion was a male horse. My most sincere and groveling apology if it's some woke concept that I don't grok.
Posted by: wisenheimer at December 08, 2021 07:32 PM (ZHe3d)

Maybe Meghan's a pre-op tranny?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (II3Gr)

124 Musk uses Tesla money to build rockets.

He most sincerely wants to go to Mars.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (CLRL3)

125 Paywall Epoch Times...

FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years To Fully Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data
"If you find what you are reading difficult to believe -- that is because it is dystopian for the government to give Pfizer billions, mandate Americans to take its product, prohibit Americans from suing for harms, but yet refuse to let Americans see the data underlying its licensure," Siri said.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (UHVv4)

126 Doof - for me, it's not the synths; i actually like them and Subdivisions is one of my favorite Rush songs. Both Signals and GUP are good albums. It's just that the songwriting flew by night beginning with Power Windows. I remember hearing Big Money and thinking, nah, that hard-earned $10 is going to beer. (Freshman year at UC/SD)

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (KAi1n)

127 A lot of Rush fans gave up on them when they added a lot of synth stuff in the 80s. (Signals through Presto). I don't agree, but I understand.

Those people are the same Boomers who liked it when AC/DC made the same album 13 times in a row. Neil's lyrics are far superior on the 80s records.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (uorZf)

128 Now I want a taco.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (4thlk)

129 If only there were some way to have cheaper energy prices.

Man, if some political figure had done the obvious/easy things to make energy much less expensive, they'd have a lock on public office.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (OTzUX)

130 > for some reason, out in rural America we don't seem to have any of the troubles that afflict dense urban (demonrat-run) areas.

Theft and Meth?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (sG4Hj)

131 126 Who knows what fame lurks under these nics?
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:34 PM (2JoB

*lifts corner of nic*

All I see is some Pocky crumbs, a half-corroded penny, and a 1994 TV Guide.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (6FeV1)

132 Botox injections, face lifts and other cosmetic alterations to make the camels more attractive are strictly prohibited.

==

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:34 PM (V13WU)

Hump implants are OK, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (P3gRi)

133 Just out of curiosity, are you saying this now because Tester has expressed doubts about the wisdom of the bill?
Posted by: pep at December 08, 2021 07:30 PM (ZsR3z)

Actually I didn't even see that yet - but it does not surprise me. It's long been known that more dem senators than Manchin don't support it, but they were too cowardly to say anything publicly.

What I base that on is the observation that Schumer has given up on trying to craft a compromise that would bring the dissenters on board - that's the signal that the game is up, and he knows. I would hazard a guess that Tester is now speaking publicly because he knows that the game is up, too, and it's safe to speak.

In fact I think everyone knows that the game is up except for the MSM and the dupes out in the peanut gallery.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (trdmm)

134 Now I want a taco.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (4thlk)

what color ?

Posted by: chango butt at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (oSX/P)

135 > He most sincerely wants to go to Mars.

https://youtu.be/91dW9pUA1BI

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (sG4Hj)

136 All I see is some Pocky crumbs, a half-corroded penny, and a 1994 TV Guide.

Posted by: Warai-otoko

Lol

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (1PHAH)

137 Musk grifted the biggest grifter of all.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (KAi1n)

138 I've told that the use of the Tesla charging stations are free to the Tesla owner.
Is this true? What, is the price of the energy built in to the price of the car or something?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (jTmQV)

139 Ariana Grande is pulling a train?

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (v0R5T)

The HOooooooooo Train!

Posted by: The Godfather at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (7bRMQ)

140 They are not giving up on this:

Although vegetarians won't eat them, insects are, after all, animals . . . fruit fly larvae -- most call them maggots --have a mild taste and a light color, so they're easy to hide in foods

https://tinyurl.com/32ud5vkt

Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (CZb/v)

141 Hump implants are OK, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (P3gRi)

don't get any ideas now

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (V13WU)

142 Jack Prosobiec - Epstein pilot logs presented in Ghislaine Maxwell case almost completely redacted

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (2JoB8)

143 In fact I think everyone knows that the game is up except for the MSM and the dupes out in the peanut gallery.

The Dems have been acting like BBB is dead for a while. The media just hasn't given up on it yet.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (uorZf)

144 These vaccine prpoganda songs are satanic. Who's paying for them?
Posted by: Max Power at December 08, 2021 07:32 PM (Hucnr)

*holds up mirror*

This guy.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (SH2Zi)

145 99 Except I work Thursdays. Thanks though. I've seen that mentioned before on Logos. Just haven't had a chance to check it out
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (sAmhv)
___

I just signed up for it, so I'll fill you in if you'd like.

Posted by: SMH

Sure. I'm working the next 3 days and I don't post much but I'll keep a look out for you.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (sAmhv)

146 Megan Thee Mare just doesn't have the same cachet.

Posted by: wisenheimer at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (ZHe3d)

147 101 DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- Saudi authorities have conducted their biggest-ever crackdown on camel beauty contestants that received Botox injections and other artificial touch-ups, the state-run Saudi Press Agency reported Wednesday, with over 40 camels disqualified from the annual pageant."

That's really sad, a lot of wealthy Saudi's each paid a lot of money to have an hour of "Private Time" with some of those camels.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (trdmm)

148 So, it looks as if the Socialist Sawant is going to retain her Seattle city council seat in a recall election.

And the Left has a new election tactic - literally printing out new ballots using printers in tents on the street, and encouraging people to mail them in.

These newly-printed ballots are only to replace "lost" ballots, of course. /s

No fraud here!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (I2/tG)

149
? That wasn't Curry.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (4thlk)

Pretty sure Curry came into league after Jordan was gone..he's thinking of Steve Kerr

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (/6GbT)

150 Jack Prosobiec - Epstein pilot logs presented in Ghislaine Maxwell case almost completely redacted

Posted by: Skip

Epstein pilot logs didn't redact themselves.

Posted by: davidt at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (0hbQ6)

151 >>> 136 Paywall Epoch Times...

FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years To Fully Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data
"If you find what you are reading difficult to believe -- that is because it is dystopian for the government to give Pfizer billions, mandate Americans to take its product, prohibit Americans from suing for harms, but yet refuse to let Americans see the data underlying its licensure," Siri said.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (UHVv4)

Think I'll save some references to share when the HR bints try to tell me the quaxxine is *not* experimental.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (llON8)

152 Hump implants are OK, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (P3gRi)

You told me you were Bactrian!!!!!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (6FeV1)

153 Is this true? What, is the price of the energy built in to the price of the car or something?

It's true, but only for the original purchaser. If you buy one used, you have to pay. I have no idea how the economics work on it, but I suspect they don't.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (uorZf)

154
THIS !
for some reason, out in rural America we don't seem to have any of the troubles that afflict dense urban (demonrat-run) areas.

always reminds me of the (no longer discussed) behavior studies done on rats back in the 60s (?) ... at some population density they go insane, in ways that would sound familiar ...
Posted by: s

1. the countryside is just as fuckd
2. there is also the issue that everybody goes from the countryside to the big city, which in part explains differences

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:40 PM (K3ZCc)

155 > Those cinnamon balls at Taco Bell are pretty good when they don't screw them up.

Taco Bell over-simplified their menu. I used to love the Grilled Stuffed Burrito. : (

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2021 07:40 PM (sG4Hj)

156 Fuck All the perverts in Hollywood... and that is everybody. EVERYBODY.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 08, 2021 07:40 PM (iDcra)

157 I'm pretty sure that "fair share for gas" comes from Biden's broken brain and he combined billionaires paying their fair share and lowering gas prices.

It's definitely not part of the dems messaging. They want gas to be expensive, but they would never admit it. At least not since Obama did.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (7cRTM)

One of the things I noticed with dementia is once something gets into their brain, nothing is going to get it back out. The process strangely can take days, weeks or even months. Like "blue cars". Biden sees a blue car, then another. Suddenly, all cars are blue. He's read newspaper articles about them. Seen it on the news. It's an epidemic. 2 days later, you're talking about tacos, and damned if it doesn't turn into blue cars.

You're exactly right, he's unable to get off of the billionaires paying their fair share. It's stuck on repeat, and he simply cannot get to the next track. He might for a moment, but even reading a script, he'll start to see "billionaires pay their fair share". He's a fucking basket case, and I am no longer entertained.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 07:40 PM (wAnMi)

158 Hump implants are OK, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:37 PM (P3gRi)

don't get any ideas now
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (V13WU)

...

Let's all be glad Maetenloch doesn't do the ONT anymore.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2021 07:40 PM (z9npv)

159 Ghislaine will be found not guilty because no evidence will be permitted to get out but will not kill herself.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (2JoB8)

160 They are not giving up on this:

Although vegetarians won't eat them, insects are, after all, animals . . . fruit fly larvae -- most call them maggots --have a mild taste and a light color, so they're easy to hide in foods

Kinda interesting that the globalists are going hardest on making us eat bugs and making us accept pedos.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (uorZf)

161 That bitch Aisha only won because she's fucking the event director!

Posted by: Ziya the Camel at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (II3Gr)

162 I did not know that there were camel beauty pageants. Thank you andy, that was most enlightening ...

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (V13WU)

163 >>> 151 They are not giving up on this:

Although vegetarians won't eat them, insects are, after all, animals . . . fruit fly larvae -- most call them maggots --have a mild taste and a light color, so they're easy to hide in foods

https://tinyurl.com/32ud5vkt
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (CZb/v)

They are going to be surprised when someone feeds them to maggots.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (llON8)

164 "Despite massive subsidies to his own industry -- electric cars"

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (xPl2J)

165 FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years To Fully Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data
"If you find what you are reading difficult to believe -- that is because it is dystopian for the government to give Pfizer billions, mandate Americans to take its product, prohibit Americans from suing for harms, but yet refuse to let Americans see the data underlying its licensure," Siri said.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (UHVv4)

The guilty flee when no one pursues!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (hOUT3)

166 I liked Maet's ONTs

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (2JoB8)

167 172, lol

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (OTzUX)

168 Doof, I thought Rush had gone woke.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (L2ZTs)

I've been a Rush fan since I first heard them 40+ years ago. They are about the most non-political band I can think of. I have seen them live and I have hundreds of "unofficial" recordings of their shows from the 70s through their final tour in 2015. They NEVER speak politics. At least not overtly.

Neil Peart was the drummer and lyricist. He was an avid and voracious reader. They called him "The Professor". He wrote about a lot of stuff, and fans have tried to glean political meaning from the songs. But he always disavowed any left/right leanings.

The one thing I can say about Peart is that he very much turned away from any kind of faith in his final 20-ish years of life. This is very likely because of personal tragedies. He lost his daughter and wife within a short amount of time in the late 90s. The songs "Faithless" and "BU2B" (Brought Up To Believe) are key examples.

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (mZUr4)

169 Seattle deserves to get whatever they vote for, and they deserve to get it Good and Hard.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (trdmm)

170 Neil's lyrics are far superior on the 80s records.
Posted by: Ian S.

Yep. "Time Stand Still".

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (sAmhv)

171 ? That wasn't Curry.
--------
Lol, here I go again. Steve Kerr, pretty close.

Posted by: dartist at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (+ya+t)

172 "Theft and Meth?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (sG4Hj) "

not around here.
fuck me, I grew up in fucking inner Chicago, don't try to tell me, out here in the cows&corn ain't shit.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (03BbD)

173 Despite massive subsidies to his own industry -- electric cars

Someone on Twitter made the excellent point that since Tesla's the established player in that industry, it's now in his interest to raise the barriers to entry.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (uorZf)

174 Helena Handbasket, with all the rulings going against the mandate is your company still compelling you?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (CdA/y)

175
The Dems have been acting like BBB is dead for a while. The media just hasn't given up on it yet.
Posted by: Ian S

Someone prepaid for all those TV commercials and the TV people are not going to stop running them and give refunds...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (iMZHt)

176 Would love to see Long Cat again

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (2JoB8)

177 Is a Arianda Grande some kind of froofroo coffee drink?

Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (0OP+5)

178 It's true, but only for the original purchaser. If you buy one used, you have to pay. I have no idea how the economics work on it, but I suspect they don't.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (uorZf)

That has got to adversely affect the resale price of a used Tesla. Who is going to buy a used electric car, with the best years of its battery life behind it, and you have to pay full rate for charging, to boot?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (P3gRi)

179 Neil's lyrics are far superior on the 80s records.
Posted by: Ian S.

I have never heard anyone else claim that. And for good reason. You are insane. Then again, there are people who prefer Club Ninja to Tyranny & Mutation.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (KAi1n)

180 "Despite massive subsidies to his own industry -- electric cars"

But not for him. The subsidies in the bill apply only to unionized automakers. Tesla is non-union. This might be why he is pissed off about the bill.

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (xPl2J)

181 Well, if the White House wants me to reshape MY non-existent Economic Coverage of their idiocy, it is gonna take someone a LOT hotter than Jen Psaki to convince me that I need to see the light.
Maybe Ariana Grande? A guy can dream, right?

Posted by: TxMarko at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (7WLRC)

182 >And the Left has a new election tactic - literally printing out new ballots using printers in tents on the street, and encouraging people to mail them in.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2021 07:39 PM (I2/tG)

Amazing. Chain of custody? Election controls? Never heard of it.

New frontiers of election fuckery forged here in the PNW. We have a history of that. Look at the Gregoire/Rossi election. What was that, two decades ago now?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (cSs/W)

183 Now I want mahi tacos. Soft corn tortillas.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (II3Gr)

184 I liked Maet's ONTs
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:41 PM (2JoB

...

Oh me too.

I just know he'd torture us with some sort of enlarged hump theme.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (z9npv)

185 But not for him. The subsidies in the bill apply only to unionized automakers. Tesla is non-union. This might be why he is pissed off about the bill.
Posted by: M

he said there should be no subsidies of anything for anybody

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:44 PM (K3ZCc)

186 oh, fuck this shit, I should know everyone here is fucking smarter than me, why even fucking try.

g'night.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 08, 2021 07:44 PM (03BbD)

187 MisHum surely wasn't the one canoodling with insanity. Or, inanity. Embracing the healing power of *and*, here, see.

Put it this way. Most of the COBS here have served well, and diligently, for years. Not a whole lotta folks get banned, other than straight-up trolls. Troublemakers, a bit, and lastly, the terminally annoying, seldom, if ever.

In your case, MisHum rolled up a newspaper and gave you a smack on the nose as punishment for your shitting on the floor. And, yes, housebreaking a pup is sometimes a longer process than wanted, but geez, eventually, the pups tend to learn. Lesson here? Don't be the pup that doesn't learn. You'll be happier. We'll all be happier.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2021 07:44 PM (QzJWU)

188 Skip, I liked Maet's ONTs too.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (L2ZTs)

Figures...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 08, 2021 07:44 PM (hOUT3)

189 >>> 181 Seattle deserves to get whatever they vote for, and they deserve to get it Good and Hard.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (trdmm)

Not everyone voted for that shit; but of course the commie scum don't care as long as they have a +1 majority.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:44 PM (llON8)

190 The one thing I can say about Peart is that he very much turned away from any kind of faith in his final 20-ish years of life. This is very likely because of personal tragedies. He lost his daughter and wife within a short amount of time in the late 90s. The songs "Faithless" and "BU2B" (Brought Up To Believe) are key examples.
Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (mZUr4)

yeah, I agree. Some people's beliefs help carry them through personal tragedies, but some people are just permanently broken by them. Mark Twain was another famous person who spent the last years of his life incredibly bitter, after financial failure and the death of his wife. His last few writings were terribly dark.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:44 PM (trdmm)

191
That has got to adversely affect the resale price of a used Tesla. Who is going to buy a used electric car, with the best years of its battery life behind it, and you have to pay full rate for charging, to boot?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (P3gRi)

And aren't the batteries in the neighborhood of 10 grand to replace or something like that?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:45 PM (II3Gr)

192 BTW, most military secrets like ULTRA are only kept secret for 50 or so years; why 75 for Pfizer-shots??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:45 PM (UHVv4)

193 Fallon sucks goat balls.

And, in other news...

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2021 07:45 PM (jZEpE)

194 I don't watch Fallon anymore but the impression I have is that his heart's not really into being as hateful/partisan as every other late nite host.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:25 PM (L2ZTs)

Maybe not qd, but neither was the young suitor in the group bothering Penelope. When Odysseus gave him a chance to leave before the slaughter, he didn't go and so got killed with the rest of them. Lesson learned too late.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 08, 2021 07:45 PM (7bRMQ)

195 Would be a bit of awe shucks when I got up at 4am and find the blog was shut down since 0130hrs.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 07:46 PM (2JoB8)

196 Tough for a lot of fans to embrace anything after that. Which is a shame because there is a bunch of fantastic rock music on Rush's albums from "Roll the Bones" through "Clockwork Angels".
Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:23 PM (mZUr4)

I have been wetting my beak by way of random shuffle of tge whole catalog. I am happy to be happily surprised. And Steve, don't forget the first self-titled album. You can probably skip A Farewell to Kings.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2021 07:46 PM (SH2Zi)

197 In other words, CNN's "viewers" are primarily not interested in CNN as viewers themselves but are interested in CNN as a vehicle for propagandizing to other, persuadable low-information viewers.

------

No. CNN and others "news organizations" exist to report the party line to the underlings.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 08, 2021 07:46 PM (4B0vl)

198 Yep. "Time Stand Still".

If you haven't seen it, the US Army Band did an excellent version of Time Stand Still shortly after Neil died last year. Appropriately, it has no drums, as a "missing man formation" kind of thing. It's on YouTube.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:46 PM (TDL+F)

199 the thing is is, the funny bit is watching the other automakrs say how there is nothing special about tesla, that anybody could do it, then find a way to not outperform tesla

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:46 PM (K3ZCc)

200 'He's starting a new career naked mud wrestling against Stormy Daniels at sleazy swap meets for cash.'

Horse face vs. Pig face

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 08, 2021 07:47 PM (roH4R)

201 >>>Now I want a taco.

>We have the new Jack In The Taco combo. Musk will be marketing his own special sour cream hot sauce when they take it up to the ISS.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 08, 2021 07:47 PM (BPuaD)

202 BTW, most military secrets like ULTRA are only kept secret for 50 or so years; why 75 for Pfizer-shots??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:45 PM (UHVv4)

weird, no ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:47 PM (V13WU)

203 If ballots had to have postage applied to mail them there would be a lot less mail in ballots.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2021 07:47 PM (U0p6D)

204 Then again, there are people who prefer Club Ninja to Tyranny & Mutation.
Posted by: SFGoth

*walks away whistling*
Posted by: qdpsteve

Someone needs another banning, badly. Beat 'im up!

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:47 PM (KAi1n)

205 I don't want to alarm you but the Martians have invaded.

https://bit.ly/31PnCRK

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 08, 2021 07:47 PM (FVME7)

206 In other words, CNN's "viewers" are primarily not interested in CNN as viewers themselves but are interested in CNN as a vehicle for propagandizing to other, persuadable low-information viewers.

------

No. CNN and others "news organizations" exist to report the party line to the underlings.
Posted by: M

it is a tv versin of journolist to synchronize the tribe when they are not in the same room to chant

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (K3ZCc)

207 I will say for with no reservations now - the BBB bill is going to fail. They will pass nothing, and it will be allowed to just die.
-------------
While I'm not a fan of what happened (at all!), I am certain that this is why the GOP voted for the infrastructure bill. They figured that if that boondoggle passed, BBB was certain to die.

I'm pretty sure that Manchin and Sinema let it be known that they were going to be much more adamant in their opposition to BBB if Infrastructure was no longer being held hostage.

I honestly quit paying attention, I have been so certain BBB was going to fail. I could be wrong, I've been wrong in the past.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (5p7BC)

208 >>> 186 Helena Handbasket, with all the rulings going against the mandate is your company still compelling you?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (CdA/y)

The so-called leaders are a bunch of woketard asshoes so they're trying; their only concession was to push the vaxx deadline to January, but not the paperwork deadline. I could tell you stories, offline

I'm not doing what those fckers want.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (llON8)

209 And aren't the batteries in the neighborhood of 10 grand to replace or something like that?
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:45 PM (II3Gr)

I don't know if anybody really knows for sure. I doubt very many get replaced.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (P3gRi)

210 If ballots had to have postage applied to mail them there would be a lot less mail in ballots.

Posted by: torabora

Poll tax.

Posted by: davidt at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (0hbQ6)

211 >BTW, most military secrets like ULTRA are only kept secret for 50 or so years; why 75 for Pfizer-shots??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:45 PM (UHVv4)

Gee I wonder why they don't want anyone with living memory of 2021 to know about what happened?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (cSs/W)

212 Local and state Republicans should run on one issue next year: Break the Teachers Unions.

Just show pictures of Randi Weingarten partying in Puerto Rico, sans mask, flying the country in private jets, and Farcebook pages for all their members (advertising they spend most of their time drinking).

Make that the GOP Contract With America, and lots of Democrat voters will jump on board.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (jZEpE)

213 If ballots had to have postage applied to mail them there would be a lot less mail in ballots.
Posted by: torabora

Why? Walgreens carries stamps. It's not like they cost anything.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (KAi1n)

214 217 If ballots had to have postage applied to mail them there would be a lot less mail in ballots.
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2021 07:47 PM (U0p6D)

Immediate thought was "that's a poll tax"....

but then, is the gas I use to drive to the polling station a poll tax? No. It's just the means I used to get myself there.

So I don't know.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:49 PM (6FeV1)

215 I have yet to meet a teacher who calls him/herself an educator who is not a worthless pile of shit.

Posted by: red speck at December 08, 2021 07:49 PM (gS3OW)

216 212 Yep. "Time Stand Still".

If you haven't seen it, the US Army Band did an excellent version of Time Stand Still shortly after Neil died last year. Appropriately, it has no drums, as a "missing man formation" kind of thing. It's on YouTube.
Posted by: Ian S.

I have seen it. It was very well done.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:49 PM (sAmhv)

217 Why? Walgreens carries stamps. It's not like they cost anything.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (KAi1n)

Well played.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:49 PM (6FeV1)

218 Rush, a good to great band with a middling catalog. They are fucking Canadians after all.

Posted by: Goliad's Ghosts at December 08, 2021 07:49 PM (oWBc3)

219 I'm not doing what those fckers want.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (llON

Words to live by!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:49 PM (II3Gr)

220 . . . fruit fly larvae -- most call them maggots --have a mild taste and a light color, so they're easy to hide in foods

https://tinyurl.com/32ud5vkt
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (CZb/v)
------------

You first.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 07:50 PM (CLRL3)

221 #216 that's an opening Gambit.
You'll be happy with half that.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2021 07:50 PM (U0p6D)

222 >>> 229 I have yet to meet a teacher who calls him/herself an educator who is not a worthless pile of shit.
Posted by: red speck at December 08, 2021 07:49 PM (gS3OW)

When they tart up the job title you know it's staffed by idiots.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:50 PM (llON8)

223 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 07:50 PM (arJlL)

224 >>> I didn't even know you could make hot sauce taste like like a dirty ho.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)

The burn happens when you piss the next day.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:22 PM (6FeV1)

I saw that. I don't understand what they're thinking.. The thought of nasty damn women disgusts me and I friggin love women. Its probably because I love women.. It's like imagine your favorite food you love it and then one day you get served up a version that's horrid and it ruins you for ever on that. I wouldn't want nasty horse girl to ruin me on women, make me gay or a monk, isn't my plan for the future.

tl;dr - glad I'm married

Posted by: banana Dream at December 08, 2021 07:50 PM (a1pQd)

225 I have been wetting my beak by way of random shuffle of tge whole catalog. I am happy to be happily surprised. And Steve, don't forget the first self-titled album. You can probably skip A Farewell to Kings.

Self-titled is definitely an acquired taste outside of "Working Man", but "Here Again" is better than it has any right to be. I'd skip Caress of Steel before skipping Farewell to Kings, but I know that's heresy in many circles.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:50 PM (TDL+F)

226 211 In other words, CNN's "viewers" are primarily not interested in CNN as viewers themselves but are interested in CNN as a vehicle for propagandizing to other, persuadable low-information viewers.

------

No. CNN and others "news organizations" exist to report the party line to the underlings.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 08, 2021 07:46 PM
Ministry Of Truth.

Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (0OP+5)

227
I'm pretty sure that Manchin and Sinema let it be known that they were going to be much more adamant in their opposition to BBB if Infrastructure was no longer being held hostage.

I honestly quit paying attention, I have been so certain BBB was going to fail. I could be wrong, I've been wrong in the past.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 08, 2021 07:48 PM (5p7BC)

If you remember the week before the bill passed in the House (just before Thanksgiving) Pelosi and Schumer were publicly negotiating with Manchin and Sinema (and others, I'm sure) as to what they could put in and get it through the Senate. Suddenly, with time running out before the recess, Nancy just said "Screw it!" and tossed in a bunch of stuff the Progs wanted so she could get it through the House and go home.

I think that was the moment the BBB bill died for good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (trdmm)

228 Helena Handbasket, I look forward to you airing those stories when we meet for lunch.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (CdA/y)

229 I didn't even know you could make hot sauce taste like like a dirty ho.
Posted by: q

they use it as a disinfectant when the truck stop washroom is to busy to get to a sink or toilt

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (K3ZCc)

230 Hmm, that's not always true, because it could be something like "sanitation engineer" where 1) the employee does something useful in the real world and 2) probably is smarter than most fourth-grade teachers.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (llON8)

231 Danger, will wheaton! Danger!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (/+1us)

232 I didn't even know you could make hot sauce taste like like a dirty ho.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)

Anchovies?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (II3Gr)

233 He'll be giving out handjobs under a bridge for fifteen dollars a man soon enough. Or, as he likes to call it, "Back to college!"

I thot it was 25 bucks!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (yrol0)

234 Looks like Ace needs to have a hugs thread.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 08, 2021 07:52 PM (BPuaD)

235

QDP,

You are a very mentally sick person.

You should have been banned some years back when you DOXED the woman boss at the mental hospital who sued you for sexual harassing or stalking, which was it????

The only reason I can think of as to why you were not permanently banned was maybe there wasn't a coblogger around.

Posted by: four seasons at December 08, 2021 07:52 PM (PisyI)

236 escalation

Posted by: davidt at December 08, 2021 07:52 PM (0hbQ6)

237 I thot it was 25 bucks!
Posted by: r

you overpaid

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:52 PM (K3ZCc)

238 Gee I wonder why they don't want anyone with living memory of 2021 to know about what happened?
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it

So they can do it again !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 07:52 PM (arJlL)

239 247 I didn't even know you could make hot sauce taste like like a dirty ho.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)

Anchovies?
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:51 PM (II3Gr)

Spermicide scraped off a used Trojan

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:52 PM (6FeV1)

240 And it's off to bed before things get sporty here. Hoping I get more than just 3 hours of sleep. Gotta work tomorrow.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:53 PM (sAmhv)

241 I didn't even know you could make hot sauce taste like like a dirty ho.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)

What is needed is a hot sauce that tastes like stripper juice.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2021 07:53 PM (R/m4+)

242 QDP,

You are a very mentally sick person.

You should have been banned some years back when you DOXED the woman boss at the mental hospital who sued you for sexual harassing or stalking, which was it????

The only reason I can think of as to why you were not permanently banned was maybe there wasn't a coblogger around.

Posted by: f

you should ban him

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:53 PM (K3ZCc)

243 FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years To Fully Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data

Take your time. Omicron seems to be the cure.

Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2021 07:53 PM (vOGqy)

244 And BAN AND BAN AND BAN

Posted by: Zoot at December 08, 2021 07:54 PM (/+1us)

245 He's also done some really outstanding work in developing engineering solutions to complex problems in an age when that's out of fashion.

Such as? (genuinely curious)

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 08, 2021 07:54 PM (roH4R)

246 You are a very mentally sick person.

You should have been banned some years back when you DOXED the woman boss at the mental hospital who sued you for sexual harassing or stalking, which was it????

The only reason I can think of as to why you were not permanently banned was maybe there wasn't a coblogger around.

Posted by: four seasons at December 08, 2021 07:52 PM (PisyI)

really ? I see no problem with qdpsteve.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:55 PM (V13WU)

247 How is side 1 of 2112 not political??? It's Ayn Rand set to music.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:55 PM (KAi1n)

248 (PisyI)

Pissy? It checks out.

Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2021 07:55 PM (vOGqy)

249 Bob Newhart on the phone...
So, did the vax come from the grassy knoll or the dusty book warehouse? 75 years? Ok... I'll hold.

Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2021 07:55 PM (taPSh)

250 What is needed is a hot sauce that tastes like stripper juice.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2021 07:53 PM (R/m4+)

Clamato

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:56 PM (II3Gr)

251 Everybody seems touchy tonight. I have apparently missed a lot the last couple of weeks. Think I'll say goodnight, horde.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 08, 2021 07:56 PM (OX9vb)

252 Hola clamatos y clamatas

Posted by: chango butt at December 08, 2021 07:56 PM (oSX/P)

253 I think there must be some misunderstanding ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:56 PM (V13WU)

254 264 Bob Newhart on the phone...
So, did the vax come from the grassy knoll or the dusty book warehouse? 75 years? Ok... I'll hold.
Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2021 07:55 PM (taPSh)

Oh man, I can actually envision Bob Newhart looking idly up at the ceiling and bobbing along to imaginary hold muzak....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 07:57 PM (6FeV1)

255 WHO THE HELL ARE YOU CALLING TOUCHY??!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:57 PM (II3Gr)

256 Everybody seems touchy tonight. I have apparently missed a lot the last couple of weeks. Think I'll say goodnight, horde.
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at December 08, 2021 07:56 PM (OX9vb)

lutefisk

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:57 PM (V13WU)

257 They asked those 1,200+ people 3 very simple questions:

Does this person reside at this address?
Did they vote in 2020?
Did they vote absentee ballot?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 07:57 PM (yrol0)

258 "New frontiers of election fuckery forged here in the PNW. We have a history of that. Look at the Gregoire/Rossi election. What was that, two decades ago now?
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (cSs/W)"

If I'm not mistaken the WA secstate just left her post to take up a federal election integrity job.

For real.

Yeah, the same secstate that oversaw so many years of blatant fraud, with the state simply rejecting ballots wholesale from zipcodes they don't like, whenever it suited them.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at December 08, 2021 07:57 PM (6Xyqy)

259 I highly recommend BOC's "The Vigil" for these times. Written in 1979.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:57 PM (KAi1n)

260 hey Ace really really hope you will do some in depth analysis on the new David Brooks "what happened to conservatism" piece he wrote. It's hilarious but seems like he's trying to talk some sense into us and maybe we should listen to him now. Dunno. He switched to Catholic so he's legit and he's got a major show on PBS.

Posted by: mercury at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (wxpwo)

261 In other words, CNN's "viewers" are primarily not interested in CNN as viewers themselves but are interested in CNN as a vehicle for propagandizing to other, persuadable low-information viewers.

-
CNN issues marching orders.

I don't know but I've been told
Trump is bad and very old

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (FVME7)

262 AOP, find someone else in your pathetic life to abuse.

Talk about pathetic lives. You are the biggest winner of all.

Posted by: Ronster at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (P4Ujk)

263 17.6% of surveyed voters resulted in anomalies that indicate fraudulent votes were cast.
At this rate, as many as 87,489 fraudulent votes were cast in Macomb County, MI.
At this rate, as many as 154,545 fraudulent votes would have been cast in Wayne County, MI.
At this rate, as many as 974,917 fraudulent votes would have been cast statewide in MI
more than enough to cover the reported 154,188 vote margin.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (yrol0)

264 BTW, most military secrets like ULTRA are only kept secret for 50 or so years; why 75 for Pfizer-shots??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 07:45 PM (UHVv4)

Military secrets normally only affect the lives of the peasants that fought the wars; Pfizer secrets could affect the politicians, corporation heads, and world leaders, so it's priorities all the way down.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (hOUT3)

265 I have never heard anyone else claim that. And for good reason. You are insane. Then again, there are people who prefer Club Ninja to Tyranny & Mutation.

I've heard lots of people claim it, because it's correct. Derivative space opera and second-hand Tolkien were all fun in their time, but Neil was writing about actual humans starting with Permanent Waves.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (TDL+F)

266 Welcome back, Insom; you were missed !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (arJlL)

267 we cannot undo what was done, but in doing so, we must do what must be done 1

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (V13WU)

268 Everybody seems touchy tonight.

this is why you need flame war fridays

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (K3ZCc)

269
hey Ace really really hope you will do some in depth analysis on the new David Brooks "what happened to conservatism" piece he wrote. It's hilarious but seems like he's trying to talk some sense into us and maybe we should listen to him now. Dunno. He switched to Catholic so he's legit and he's got a major show on PBS.
Posted by: mercury

lololo...

l

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 07:59 PM (2u35I)

270 81 Welcome back, Insom; you were missed !
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (arJlL)

That's because I was running serpentine.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 07:59 PM (II3Gr)

271 Rush is one of the most pretentious rock bands without question. Yet I love Time Standstill.

Posted by: TC at December 08, 2021 07:59 PM (vEj4+)

272 All right you jackwagons.

I have a lot of problems with you people.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2021 07:59 PM (mbFEM)

273 hey Ace really really hope you will do some in depth analysis on the new David Brooks "what happened to conservatism" piece he wrote. It's hilarious but seems like he's trying to talk some sense into us and maybe we should listen to him now. Dunno. He switched to Catholic so he's legit and he's got a major show on PBS.
Posted by: mercury at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (wxpwo)

I think you forgot a sarc tag.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (P3gRi)

274 this is why you need flame war fridays
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 07:58 PM (K3ZCc)

I'll bring the Boring Company flamethrowers.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (6FeV1)

275 AOP, find someone else in your pathetic life to abuse.

Talk about pathetic lives. You are the biggest winner of all.
Posted by: Ronster

AOP ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (arJlL)

276 really ? I see no problem with qdpsteve.
Posted by: runner

Well, Club Ninja > Tyranny & Mutation is a major red flag.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (KAi1n)

277 I'll bring the Boring Company flamethrowers.
Posted by: W

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (K3ZCc)

278 Doof - for me, it's not the synths; i actually like them and Subdivisions is one of my favorite Rush songs. Both Signals and GUP are good albums. It's just that the songwriting flew by night beginning with Power Windows. I remember hearing Big Money and thinking, nah, that hard-earned $10 is going to beer. (Freshman year at UC/SD)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:36 PM (KAi1n)

Understandable. But there are some outstanding lyrics among their 80s albums. "Turn the Page", "Prime Mover", "Manhattan Project" -- just to name a few.

And good point about 2112 being political. You could argue the same for "The Trees". I guess I should have said that they're not preachy, and Peart's lyrics cover more than just one political side.

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (mZUr4)

279 "Everybody seems touchy tonight."

*ears perk up*

Posted by: Gropey Joe Biden at December 08, 2021 08:01 PM (0hbQ6)

280 flame wars don't work. without the fear of a real banning, it's just kabuki.

Posted by: chango butt at December 08, 2021 08:01 PM (oSX/P)

281 Geez I hope that was a flounce.

Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 08:01 PM (Tnijr)

282 *quietly tiptoes out, not having a clue what is going on*

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 08, 2021 08:01 PM (5p7BC)

283 Were going to keep at it to make sure the American people are paying their fair share for gas, he said.

>10 bucks

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 08, 2021 08:01 PM (yrol0)

284 So this is the Festivus thread?

Posted by: Bete at December 08, 2021 08:01 PM (Ojki1)

285 AOP ?
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (arJlL)

I don't believe Ronster directed that at me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 08:02 PM (P3gRi)

286 Well, Club Ninja > Tyranny & Mutation is a major red flag.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (KAi1n)

He did not mention disco, did he ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 08:02 PM (V13WU)

287 rhennigantx, where is that election analysis info from? Link or at least hint?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 08:02 PM (OTzUX)

288 150 Ariana Grande is pulling a train?

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2021 07:16 PM (v0R5T)

The HOooooooooo Train!

Posted by: The Godfather at December 08, 2021 07:38 PM (7bRMQ)

With your host, Don Porn-elius.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (lNHqD)

289 "Ass, Gas, or Grass" is the new "E Pluribus Unum"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (6FeV1)

290 I don't believe Ronster directed that at me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

GOOD !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (arJlL)

291 >I have a lot of problems with you people.
Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2021 07:59 PM (mbFEM)

Is it Festivus already?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (cSs/W)

292 75 years most every one of the Big Pharma honchos and politicians getting greased pockets out of this Fake Vax will be gone.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (2JoB8)

293 I just know he'd torture us with some sort of enlarged hump theme.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2021 07:43 PM (z9npv)

What hump?

Posted by: Igor at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (7bRMQ)

294 I got yer Festivus pole right HERE

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (II3Gr)

295 flame wars don't work. without the fear of a real banning, it's just kabuki.
Posted by: chango bu

weeds the sad, weak and thin skinned out

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (K3ZCc)

296 And good point about 2112 being political. You could argue the same for "The Trees". I guess I should have said that they're not preachy, and Peart's lyrics cover more than just one political side.

Peart denounced "The Trees" after he moved to Hollywood and became a hardcore lib. But he kept playing it anyway.

"Turn the Page", "Prime Mover", "Manhattan Project" -- just to name a few.

Also "Afterimage", "Red Sector A", and "Middletown Dreams".

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (TDL+F)

297 268 I think there must be some misunderstanding ?

No, no noooo.... That is Phil Collins/Genesis, not Rush !!

Posted by: TxMarko at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (7WLRC)

298 He did not mention disco, did he ?
Posted by: runner

Hey, there's nothing wrong with stayin' alive hustling some hot stuff at the bus stop.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 08:04 PM (KAi1n)

299 I loooooove Festivus !

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 08:04 PM (V13WU)

300 I am your friend.

Posted by: The Scrollwheel at December 08, 2021 08:04 PM (QU5/8)

301 312 268 I think there must be some misunderstanding ?

No, no noooo.... That is Phil Collins/Genesis, not Rush !!
Posted by: TxMarko at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (7WLRC)

Well we have stumbled in to the Land of Confusion, after all....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 08:04 PM (6FeV1)

302 Doof, I thought Rush had gone woke.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:24 PM (L2ZTs)
I've been a Rush fan since I first heard them 40+ years ago. They are about the most non-political band I can think of. I have seen them live and I have hundreds of "unofficial" recordings of their shows from the 70s through their final tour in 2015. They NEVER speak politics. At least not overtly.
Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 07:42 PM (mZUr4)

Neil went through an Ayn Rand phase (praised her in liner notes in 2112), so he was pretty political for a bit. But, once they hit the big time, he decided he was going to be a good lib. There's a lot of articles about him (besides his daughter, wife and motorcycle sojourn), I remember this one from way back when Trump announced a run, and Pert freaked out. He particularly loathed Rand Paul, who found affinity with them from the "Trees" song. Yeah, he was pro Obama but wisely did what he could to keep the band away from politics. Post Trump I'm not so sure that would have happened, alienating half your audience seems to be a badge of honor now.

https://tinyurl.com/ym4kr2bt

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 08:04 PM (wAnMi)

303 I have a lot of problems with you people.
Posted by: b

things you wish you ahd not said in your bedroom for $100?

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 08:04 PM (K3ZCc)

304 Hey, there's nothing wrong with stayin' alive hustling some hot stuff at the bus stop.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 08:04 PM (KAi1n)

HE DID NOT MENTION DISCO, DID HE ??

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 08:04 PM (V13WU)

305 I happened to have an unusual inside view of the election shenanigans in that Rossi election. Can't say more about that, but my source was as well placed as is possible. Yes, doubts about the legitimacy of that official outcome were well founded.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 08:05 PM (OTzUX)

306 " sad, weak and thin skinned out
Posted by: confederatefifth"

Oh like your anus.

Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 08:05 PM (Tnijr)

307 Think it is time for a musical interlude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=uwiTs60VoTM

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 08, 2021 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

308 Phil Collins...I must say, that was one excellent beer commercial he did.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2021 08:06 PM (V13WU)

309 322 Think it is time for a musical interlude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=uwiTs60VoTM
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 08, 2021 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

Please tell me that goes to Phil Anselmo screaming "FUCKING HOSTIIIIILLLEEEE!!!!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2021 08:06 PM (6FeV1)

310 NOOD cafe

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 08, 2021 08:06 PM (wAnMi)

311 I'd skip Caress of Steel before skipping Farewell to Kings, but I know that's heresy in many circles.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 07:50 PM (TDL+F)

Interesting. Perhaps I should give farewell another, closer listen. And Rush - Rush is one of those albums I can listen through and enjoy every song. Take a Friend is the tits.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2021 08:06 PM (SH2Zi)

312 Creative destruction. (we're in the destructive phase right now)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 07:33 PM (CLRL3)

That is not what Schumpeter meant by Creative Destruction, he meant that new ideas and functions supplant old ideas and functions. What Biden is doing is equivalent to Detroit.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2021 08:06 PM (ZMraq)

313 sad, weak and thin skinned out
Posted by: confederatefifth"

Oh like your anus.
Posted by: f

you should hang around here in the event we ever do get flamewar fridays back.

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 08, 2021 08:07 PM (K3ZCc)

314 HE DID NOT MENTION DISCO, DID HE ??

I'll say it: the good disco was good. The majority of disco was awful. And dance music with actual Fender basses is infinitely better than all of the computer farting we've gotten since then.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 08:07 PM (TDL+F)

315 have this fucking fantasty that I'm constantly threadjacking

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2021 07:50 PM

other than the constant and persistent threadjacking, why do you think people think that about you?

Posted by: qpdstephen at December 08, 2021 08:07 PM (jmIeP)

316 Maybe the P-fizer shot is a very much ultra-safe expensive but safe placebo. A safe one.

That would be a secret worth believing you could keep it.

Worth a lot of worthless lying gnome yacht money.

Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2021 08:07 PM (taPSh)

317
Nood

No c*nts allowed, though.
So, that's like half of you.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 08, 2021 08:07 PM (2u35I)

318 Think it is time for a musical interlude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=uwiTs60VoTM
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

Whew.

I thought it was gonna be a Yoko.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 08:07 PM (arJlL)

319 Take a Friend is the tits.

In The Mood should be the HQ National Anthem.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 08:07 PM (TDL+F)

320 Free Will and Witchhunt strike me as fairly political Rush songs. I like them both, but they have a decided point of view.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 08, 2021 08:08 PM (QU5/8)

321 "you should hang around here in the event we ever do get flamewar fridays back.
Posted by: confederatefifth "

Bring it on. I can take it. ALL of it.

Posted by: f'd at December 08, 2021 08:08 PM (Tnijr)

322 Think it is time for a musical interlude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=uwiTs60VoTM
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 08, 2021 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

Best song on Zeppelin 4. Close second is Misty Mountain Hop.

Posted by: Doof at December 08, 2021 08:08 PM (mZUr4)

323 QDP, I see that basic comprehension wasn't then, and isn't still, your strong suit. Poker game wasn't THE objection. Your Bigfooting your agenda into an event you've never attended, was. Don't care if it was a tiddlywinks contest, poker game or Jarts. Well, Jarts would be entertaining, at least.

Nurse isn't wrong about your threadjacking, I'd say, with about 70%/75% of your 'enters the thread' comments. Be it questions about food, music, culture or whatever, the thread can be chatting merrily along, then you Bigfoot into the conversation, and it's like the *skreee!* of a record tonearm sliding across the platter. You're at your happiest when you can get Horde to be answering to your questions and dancing to your tune.

Oh, and this: Wesely Crusher. A more fitting avatar could not describe you, and if nics here *had* avatars, I'd think one of the COBS would make his image a "sticky" on your profile. Finally? I've met Chemjeff. I've shot pistols with Chemjeff. (and didn't shoot him in the head, even when he screamed like a girl.) You, sir. are no Chemjeff. Hell, at least C.J. did manage to drive himself to Texas, once.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2021 08:08 PM (QzJWU)

324 What? You mean there is no market for BBQ Herpes?
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2021 07:35 PM (sAmhv)

That burning at the corner of your mouth . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2021 08:09 PM (ZMraq)

325 Did Rush do a song called Tom Sawyer?

Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2021 08:09 PM (0OP+5)

326 288
I think you forgot a sarc tag.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2021 08:00 PM (P3gRi)

------------------

I held my nose and read the Brooks blather, and it's idiotic:

"This is one of the core conservative principles: epistemological modesty, or humility in the face of what we don't know about a complex world, and a conviction that social change should be steady but cautious and incremental."

Translation: the commies are smarter than me, so I'll assert my value as opposition by slowing down their inevitable march to victory a tiny bit, and I'll do it using big words like "epistemological" to impress the rubes.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 08, 2021 08:09 PM (lNHqD)

327 andycanuck, that really is a most excellent comparison - revelation of ULTRA vs. revelation of should be almost instantly public data on a publicly funded item that in many cases is being forced on the public.

ULTRA was revealed in 1974, Cold War still raging, with publication of Group Captain Winterbotham's "The Ultra Secret". So not even close to 50 years, per an Official Secrets Act item or something like that.

But testing data on a publicly funded and often mandated "vaccine" is to be withheld for *75 years*?????

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 08:09 PM (OTzUX)

328 Free Will and Witchhunt strike me as fairly political Rush songs. I like them both, but they have a decided point of view.

Freewill is more atheist than political, IMO. Witch Hunt was supposed to be about Jerry Falwell, but today it fits the woke mob *way* too well.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 08:10 PM (TDL+F)

329 How is side 1 of 2112 not political??? It's Ayn Rand set to music.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 07:55 PM (KAi1n)

+Freewill. Big Money, a commentary on the role of money as a motivator. Red Barcheta, rebelling against tyranny. Not overtly political, perhaps, but libertarian-themed.

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2021 08:11 PM (SH2Zi)

330 Big Money, a commentary on the role of money as a motivator

Big Money was adapted from John Dos Passos, incidentally. As was The Camera Eye and a few other songs.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2021 08:12 PM (TDL+F)

331 All right you jackwagons.

I have a lot of problems with you people.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2021 07:59 PM (mbFEM)

Is it festivus already?

Posted by: flounder at December 08, 2021 08:13 PM (SH2Zi)

332 De Blasio NYC vaxx mandate blocked by judge

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 08:15 PM (UHVv4)

333 But testing data on a publicly funded and often mandated "vaccine" is to be withheld for *75 years*?????
Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 08:09 PM (OTzUX)

"Obscene" fails to adequately describe this ploy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 08, 2021 08:18 PM (hOUT3)

334 #342 Thank you, rhomboid. I read the book as a Christmas gift then -- and didn't count the years out literally to see about 50 even!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 08, 2021 08:19 PM (UHVv4)

335 This is the aos I remember when I came here 15+ years ago. It was thunderdome and I admit I loved it.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 08:21 PM (VJ4aP)

336 GOOD !
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2021 08:03 PM (arJlL)

I wonder about you.

Posted by: Ronster at December 08, 2021 08:22 PM (P4Ujk)

337 You want to really see the difference? Watch footage from pre-cell phone days. It's not just social media that's the problem.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 08, 2021 08:23 PM (5HBd1)

338 Why doesn't that PA NEA board member simply jump up and scream "SWEEP AWAY ALL MONSTERS AND DEMONS!" and be done with it?

Posted by: Cow Demon & Snake Spirit at December 08, 2021 08:47 PM (mFLaN)

339 okay - kind of funny:

https://tinyurl.com/2p8vx3ky

Posted by: Boswell at December 08, 2021 08:56 PM (5iUNf)

340 At this rate, Chris Cuomo's handjobs under a bridge for $15 is going to end up being blowjobs behind the bus station for pocket change.

Posted by: John Juan at December 08, 2021 09:41 PM (SwRix)

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Posted by: rachael dazalma at December 09, 2021 12:47 AM (vbD5P)

342 "the "Vlad the Great" title depicting him as a conqueror, which is his ambition, obviously"

This is such a weird take. Putin has talked for two decades now about a multipolar world order. Russia and China are the only two powers standing between the us and a world dominated by the lunatics in D.C. and Brussels. No, Putin is not a nice guy. But he is sane, and competent, and able to make plans farther out than the next earnings report and election cycle. Any criticism of his foreign policy has to be considered in the light of unrelenting, unprovoked aggression from the West. Imagine if he was pouring troops and missiles into Cuba right now - or more accurately, in Mexico 50 miles from the Texas border. We would be outraged - and act with far less sanity and restraint than he has shone. That's exactly what we're doing in Ukraine, which btw is run by actual, literal Neo-Nazis that we support. If anyone beside s the U.S. could be considered imperialist, it would be China, and they're only following the blueprint we laid out for them. Better, and more competently.

Posted by: Jack at December 09, 2021 11:57 AM (ATOfT)

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