Tuesday Overnight Open Thread (12/7/21)

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The Quotes of The Day


Quote I

“We’re telling people don’t visit because we don’t think we can keep you safe right now,” Los Angeles Police Department detective Jamie McBride


Quote II

“Everyone should be able to defend themselves. I think it’s a God-given right, the right to self-defense. That’s what was on trial in Wisconsin, the right to self-defense.” Kyle Rittenhouse


Quote III

"I believe we've reached here a solution to the debt ceiling issue that's consistent with Republican views of raising the debt ceiling for this amount at this particular time and allows the Democrats to proudly own it," Sen. Mitch McConnell (RINO-KYJelly)


Quote IV

I'm so grateful to be able to eat scrambled eggs and toast for breakfast and sometimes a roast beef sandwich for dinner. Mel Brooks

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Kung Flu news out of the Big Apple.

CORONAVIRUS NEW YORK CITY
Judge grants hearing to reconsider Mayor de Blasio's vaccine mandate for NYC municipal workers

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Maybe it's because I'm a Sconnie guy. But my idea of a vacation with people who have guns is hunting season.

Sun’s out, guns out.

Shocking photos show heavily armed members of Mexico’s National Guard patrolling among half-naked sunbathers in tourist hot spot Cancun in a show of force against warring cartels.

Images taken Sunday show the officers, fully clad in military gear and brandishing assault rifles, marching through the sand as bemused sunseekers look on.

Other pictures show a long line of armored vehicles arriving after an extra 1,500 guardsmen were dispatched after an escalation of violence killed two tourists, including a travel blogger from California. Other international tourists have also been injured in shootouts among rival gangs.

“This cannot be repeated,” President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said last month as he announced the extra guardsmen during a visit to Cancun.


This is lousy comedy. Sconnie residents don't talk like this. Well maybe Mr. Sefton after he moves.


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This is kind of cool. An Unmade Eames-Designed Modular Home Could Make a Comeback

Is the home of the future one designed in 1951?

Sometimes, work thought up by acclaimed designers takes longer than expected to enter the world. New York City’s Four Freedoms Park, designed by architect Louis Kahn, took decades to go from plans to a physical space that people could walk through. A similar process might be underway for a bold modular-home design created by some of the 20th century’s most beloved designers, Charles and Ray Eames.


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Frank Zappa once said, "Jazz isn't dead it just smells funny." Can the same be said for Rock N Roll?

Billboard just released its annual year-end 200 chart, which reflects the most purchased and streamed albums of the year. For the first time in its history, not a single new rock or metal album cracked the Top 200.

The Billboard 200 (which dates back to 1992) is calculated by combining the year’s physical and digital sales for an album, as well as its streaming numbers. As Loudwire points out, the newest rock album on the 2021 edition of the chart is Machine Gun Kelly’s 2020 album Tickets to My Downfall, which is ranked at No. 24 on the chart, just one notch below Queen’s 1981 Greatest Hits. (At No. 23, that Queen compilation is the highest-ranking rock record on the chart.)

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Those that do, do. Those that can't live off the taxpayer.


Or "teach".

Respect is earned, not given.

During and after several games throughout the fall semester, Senior Associate Athletics Director Reyna Gilbert-Lowry asked the group to “tone it down” when cheering in the stands—a strange request to fans cheering their home team in a large, outdoor soccer arena.

In response to a foul call at a match on Sept. 26, many fans booed and shouted at the referee. Lohr joined in by yelling “what?!?” several times at the official. In response, Gilbert-Lowry approached the Shirtless Boys and asked them to quiet down. Lohr asked her what she meant, and she then directed campus security to remove the students from the event. Before security arrived, Lohr called her “a glorified PE teacher,” and encouraged the crowd to steer its derision toward her. The crowd jeered Gilbert-Lowry as security removed the boys from the match.

The next day, one of the other Shirtless Boys emailed Gilbert-Lowry seeking clarification for why she removed them from the game. Gilbert-Lowry replied: “There is no place for Sean Lohr’s behavior and level of disrespect he showed to me last night, and previously.” Lohr then contacted Gilbert-Lowry to set up a time to discuss what happened. Gilbert-Lowry responded by banning Lohr from all women’s soccer home games for the remainder of the year, citing “last Sunday’s actions and your continued level of disrespect to me.”

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LOLGF Starbucks.

NEW YORK, Dec 7 (Reuters) - Starbucks Corp (SBUX.O) on Tuesday lost its bid with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) to delay a union election at three of the coffee chain's locations in Buffalo, New York.

Workers received ballots in the mail in November and began sending them in. The NLRB will count them up on Thursday, but the company had tried to delay the tally with its objection to parts of the election process. The NLRB decision means that a vote count will go forward.

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The ONT Musical Interlude



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Although I am employed at the highly successful AoSHQ. Sometimes I wish mankind would have stopped at the Gutenberg printing press. A plethora of Genius Award Winners.

A German court convicted a 67-year-old electrician of aggravated, dangerous and simple assault for removing the testicles of several men at their request, causing one person to die, the dpa news agency has reported.

A Munich regional court sentenced the man to eight years and six months in prison. The defendant, whose name was not released for privacy reasons, had initially also been charged with murder by omission but prosecutors later dropped that charge.

The defendant had admitted during the trial to offering “castrations” on sado-masochistic websites and said several men paid him money for torturing them and removing their testicles, dpa reported.


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Feeling down? Meet Felix Kliser. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

Felix Klieser might have been born with no arms, but it’s not stopped him developing an international career as a horn player. Instead of using his hands to press the valves, he uses his toes.

His French horn sits on a stand, and he uses his right foot to move in and out of hte bell of the instrument and his left foot to press the valves and change the notes.


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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:59 PM




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1 Maybe I'm first - just hoping I'm in before that Hrothgar guy.

Howdy Mis Hum

Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 09:59 PM (mZUr4)

2 Yay ONT

Posted by: PaleRider at December 07, 2021 09:59 PM (3cGpq)

3 There's still time

Posted by: mindful webworker - cross the streams at December 07, 2021 09:59 PM (XtB4F)

4 First it is

Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 09:59 PM (mZUr4)

5 Numero uno ?

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at December 07, 2021 09:59 PM (nLrWw)

6 The Day of Infamy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 09:59 PM (hOUT3)

7 YES!. top 5 and Doof has to call the corgis.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 07, 2021 10:00 PM (3cGpq)

8 Typed too much and fumbled as well.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at December 07, 2021 10:00 PM (nLrWw)

9 Evening, Horde...How goes it?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 07, 2021 10:01 PM (R945f)

10 good evening horde

Posted by: wing at December 07, 2021 10:01 PM (PlW9M)

11 We Germans are not all smiles und Sunshine.

Posted by: Fritz at December 07, 2021 10:01 PM (yQpMk)

12 1, 4:

Doof, there will be a day of reckoning, oh yes!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:01 PM (hOUT3)

13 "We're voting for the dem package, cause dammit, we're good at it." mitch

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:01 PM (r1z5A)

14 Good evening everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 10:02 PM (mD/uy)

15 top twenty

Posted by: Theodore at December 07, 2021 10:02 PM (GJnvT)

16 The Dems certainly own Mitch, but I bet they don't own him proudly. It's like a pimp with a particularly disgusting old clapped-out scabby whore who still makes him money.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 07, 2021 10:03 PM (2ABQr)

17 What the hell??

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:04 PM (nxdel)

18 16 The Dems certainly own Mitch, but I bet they don't own him proudly. It's like a pimp with a particularly disgusting old clapped-out scabby whore who still makes him money.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 07, 2021 10:03 PM (2ABQr)

Are you talking about Mitch or his spousal unit?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2021 10:04 PM (aA3+G)

19 Oy! Get your mind outta the sewer!

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 10:04 PM (0OP+5)

20 Too bad about Cancun. It's beginning to sound as bad as Los angeles.

Posted by: pj at December 07, 2021 10:04 PM (G1dq6)

21 Thanks for the swell ONT, Mis Hum!

Love the photo up top. The USS Arizona memorial is hallowed ground and a moving experience.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:04 PM (rwusL)

22 Perfessor, Some Rat!! *waves**

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:05 PM (nxdel)

23 Too bad about Cancun. It's beginning to sound as bad as Los angeles.

My brother and his wife just got back from there. I really hope they reconsider going back.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:06 PM (nxdel)

24 Are you talking about Mitch or his spousal unit?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2021 10:04 PM (aA3+G)

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Now that I think about it... Embrace the power of and.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 07, 2021 10:06 PM (2ABQr)

25 Those that do, do. Those that can't live off the taxpayer.

Thought it was :

Those that can, do. Those that can't, live off the taxpayer, get sweet government stipends, and teach other worthless scum to join them in the harvest of tax-payer dollars.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:06 PM (hOUT3)

26 Hey McConnell...

Shut the fuck up you chinless chinese-cocksucking sell-out!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:06 PM (Q9lwr)

27 Sen. Mitch McConnell (RINO-KYJelly)

Obama level sphincter dilation.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 10:07 PM (iam1O)

28 Good news re: contractor mandate for vaxx... Just a few hours after it was struck down by a judge, my employer cancelled the webinar they were going to host next week because it's no longer necessary for us to be forcibly vaxxed (for now). My gut says they were never all that in to it, but felt they had to play along until just this moment. Normally they'd wait a couple more days until giving an announcement/statement.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 07, 2021 10:07 PM (R945f)

29 26 Hey McConnell...

Shut the fuck up you chinless chinese-cocksucking sell-out!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:06 PM (Q9lwr)


Offers CBD some CBD.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2021 10:07 PM (aA3+G)

30 Wow. Those stalkings are sexy af.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:07 PM (U2p+3)

31 Perfessor, Some Rat!! *waves**
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:05 PM (nxdel)
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Howdy, Jewells, Some Rat!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 07, 2021 10:08 PM (R945f)

32 My take on the music industry: I have never been a fan of what's popular simply because it's popular. So I don't care what's popular.

But, I did just purchase the new Iron Maiden album, Senjustu. fucking brilliant. Who cares if they don't crack the Top 100? I like what I like.

Good music will always be around. It does not need to be on the Top 40. Music will attract the right people.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, from Butte, America at December 07, 2021 10:08 PM (x8Wzq)

33 I have just folded space from Ken'tuki. Many new dams in Ken'tuki.

Posted by: Guild Navigator Mitch McConnell at December 07, 2021 10:08 PM (yQpMk)

34 My brother and his wife just got back from there. I really hope they reconsider going back.
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB


Forrest Gump type wave back! and chuckles at your post.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:08 PM (r1z5A)

35 Wow. Those stalkings are sexy af.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:07 PM (U2p+3)

How YOU doin'?

Posted by: The Night Stalker at December 07, 2021 10:08 PM (2ABQr)

36 Jewells!! Hi there sweet cheeks!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:09 PM (U2p+3)

37 Prof! Waves, falls forward.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:09 PM (r1z5A)

38 Love the photo up top. The USS Arizona memorial is hallowed ground and a moving experience.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:04 PM (rwusL)


If you are ever in Hawaii, you do yourself a disservice if you do not do everything in your power to visit the Arizona Memorial!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:10 PM (hOUT3)

39 13 "We're voting for the dem package, cause dammit, we're good at it." mitch
Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:01 PM (r1z5A)


I got to take a gallup poll. I was a little rough on ol' Mitch.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:10 PM (+lVUW)

40 {{{Nurse}}} Baby cakes!

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:10 PM (r1z5A)

41 My mother, who was no conservative growing up always said; "those that can, do. those that can't teach. those that can't teach or do are politicians."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2021 10:10 PM (BFigT)

42 Hey nurse!!! {{hugs}}

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:11 PM (nxdel)

43 You Rat Bastard!
How the hell are ya?

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:11 PM (U2p+3)

44 I got to take a gallup poll. I was a little rough on ol' Mitch.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:10 PM (+lVUW)

Did you tell them he sucks Beagle dick?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2021 10:11 PM (aA3+G)

45 Say, has Mitch McConnell made any unannounced visits to Germany, specifically Munich?

Posted by: pep at December 07, 2021 10:12 PM (ZsR3z)

46 Gee, nurse, I've not even posted yet, and yer already on my case!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2021 10:12 PM (XH2ZB)

47 16 The Dems certainly own Mitch, but I bet they don't own him proudly. It's like a pimp with a particularly disgusting old clapped-out scabby whore who still makes him money.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 07, 2021 10:03 PM (2ABQr)


Dang. Now I'm wishing there was a way in the poll where I could make a comment like that about Mitch. Oh well. You can't have everything.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:12 PM (+lVUW)

48
Frank Zappa once said, "Jazz isn't dead it just smells funny." Can the same be said for Rock N Roll?

Interesting article. Perhaps classic rock will have persistence. Last I heard, the music written by some composers who've been dead for 200 years or more is very popular in some circles.

Posted by: Gref at December 07, 2021 10:13 PM (AMIL/)

49 If you are ever in Hawaii, you do yourself a disservice if you do not do everything in your power to visit the Arizona Memorial!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3)


I don't think I could keep it together. In fact, just thinking about it made it a little dusty in here.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:13 PM (r1z5A)

50 Dec 7, 2021...my wife and I are officially homeless.

And, horrors, I'm having to use a tablet to access AoS!

First world problems, indeed!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2021 10:13 PM (XH2ZB)

51 Not the news:
The French horn isn't French.
The English horn isn't English.
As you were.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 10:13 PM (7NKxb)

52 Oh I'll never get to Hawaii. I'll be lucky to get out of my own state.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (nxdel)

53 Doof, there will be a day of reckoning, oh yes!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:01 PM (hOUT3)


Perhaps :-)

Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (mZUr4)

54 Loved the Midwest Siri! I have a feeling there wouldn't be a demand for such an app if there weren't so many midwest accents floating around, eh?

Oh, and watch out for the deer...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (rwusL)

55 I got to take a gallup poll. I was a little rough on ol' Mitch.
Posted by: nerdygirl


F bombs just add clarity.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (r1z5A)

56 Well, except for Texas!! How many days til the Texas MoMe??

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (nxdel)

57 Time for the ONT. Time to pour bourbon.

Serendipity.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (QzJWU)

58 Per a request from an 'ette named sharon, she is currently in a area slightly more civilized than Cancun, but with very primitive internet access. She is enjoying beautiful sunsets and the waters there, but misses the blog.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (hOUT3)

59 When I was in cozumel around 2005 they had armed military on top of all the buildings rifles on a sling. Then some were also on the ground level walking around.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 10:15 PM (a1pQd)

60 Reyna Gilbert-Lowry is a hyphenated stunned-cnut.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2021 10:15 PM (P3gRi)

61 Blake!
I think of you and send sweet thoughts to you and your wife every time I use my cutting board.

Best wishes on your relocation.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:15 PM (U2p+3)

62 20 Too bad about Cancun. It's beginning to sound as bad as Los angeles.
Posted by: pj at December 07, 2021 10:04 PM (G1dq6)


For decades it's been the kind of place where they told you not to leave the nice resorts made for tourists. I went there on cruises back in the nineties. The warnings about Mexico were very similar to the warnings about Haiti.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:15 PM (+lVUW)

63 Scrambled eggs and toast really is an excellent breakfast.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at December 07, 2021 10:15 PM (c4vBB)

64 54 Loved the Midwest Siri! I have a feeling there wouldn't be a demand for such an app if there weren't so many midwest accents floating around, eh?

Oh, and watch out for the deer...
Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (rwusL)

***SNORT***

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2021 10:15 PM (aA3+G)

65 I'd have loved to have heard NerdyGirl go off about Mitch.

NSA Bob, can you help a guy out?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2021 10:16 PM (XH2ZB)

66 Hey McConnell...

Shut the fuck up you chinless chinese-cocksucking sell-out!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:06 PM (Q9lwr)
* * * *
Say, do you have a newsletter perchance?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:16 PM (rwusL)

67 I mentioned earlier today 'December 7th' a 1943 movie with Walter Huston about the Japanese sneak attack. It was very pro-America and could not by any means be made today.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 10:16 PM (0OP+5)

68 It's all more white misinformation about the gang violence in Cancun. ----AOC

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:16 PM (ykL1t)

69 I do not want to go to Hawaii.

I love planes, I love flying, but I doubt I'll ever fly commercial again. Any place in CONUS is driving distance as far as I am concerned. Just gotta plan ahead.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, from Butte, America at December 07, 2021 10:16 PM (x8Wzq)

70 Love the last pic. Love me the classy broads.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, from Butte, America at December 07, 2021 10:16 PM (x8Wzq)

71 I don't think I could keep it together. In fact, just thinking about it made it a little dusty in here.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:13 PM (r1z5A)


SR: undewrstood, two places do that to me, the Arizona Memorial and Arlington National Cemetery.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

72 Speaking of smell: That Smell

https://youtu.be/J4j7ggZqbiU

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at December 07, 2021 10:17 PM (hlxe7)

73 You Rat Bastard!
How the hell are ya?

Posted by: nurse ratched


Heh, dealing with a Chinese seller, with a 12 hr time difference and language barrier. But other than that, pretty darn good!

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:18 PM (r1z5A)

74 It gets dusty at Arlington.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, Pureblood at December 07, 2021 10:18 PM (dHnbM)

75 Pug, I was trying to plan a cruise to Hawaii with the lovely Mrs. Blake, figuring Covid madness was going to end at some point. I seem to have figured incorrectly.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2021 10:18 PM (XH2ZB)

76 Dead tourists in Mexico is a troubling development. The cartels may be ultraviolent but they've long had an unwritten code to not kill the goose that lays stacks of foreign currency. If that dynamic is changing things could get very ugly down there.

Posted by: CppThis at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (UewuT)

77 44 I got to take a gallup poll. I was a little rough on ol' Mitch.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:10 PM (+lVUW)

Did you tell them he sucks Beagle dick?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2021 10:11 PM (aA3+G)


I like beagles. I wouldn't let that creep anywhere near a beagle.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (+lVUW)

78 For some reason, I had never gotten around to watching Death of Stalin til tonight - damn, that is the best movie I have seen in quite a while!

I feel kind of ashamed for liking Zhukov's character so much, but he comes off as the only actual Man in a cast of manipulative nitwits.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (evAgx)

79 Say, do you have a newsletter perchance?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:16 PM (rwusL)

And a podcast! But Sefton makes me control my profanity...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (Q9lwr)

80 My best to you too, Nurse, and, thank you.

I done good, marrying Mrs. Blake, I must admit.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (XH2ZB)

81 Not the news:
The French horn isn't French.
The English horn isn't English.
As you were.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 10:13 PM (7NKxb)

I went to the link, and couldn't see any pictures. Same with the link about the Kwikset House. That, I found on DDG. I hate websites that demand you allow scripts before they show you pics. Cocksuckah!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2021 10:20 PM (P3gRi)

82 It gets dusty at Arlington.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, Pureblood at December 07, 2021 10:18 PM (dHnbM

My allergies act up when I read MacArthur's West Point farewell speech.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:20 PM (ykL1t)

83 Hawaii is a blessed place, upon which, much evil has beset it, unfortunately.
The Japanese attack had been written about, war-gamed, anticipated, white papers written about it. For at least 5 years prior to the attack.
The word "surprise" to describe this attack is completely inappropriate.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 10:20 PM (7NKxb)

84 For decades it's been the kind of place where they told you not to leave the nice resorts made for tourists. I went there on cruises back in the nineties. The warnings about Mexico were very similar to the warnings about Haiti.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:15 PM (+lVUW

40+ years ago we went to Acapulco on our honeymoon, and got the same warnings back then.

Posted by: Toni at December 07, 2021 10:20 PM (PgM6e)

85 For some reason, I had never gotten around to watching Death of Stalin til tonight - damn, that is the best movie I have seen in quite a while!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (evAgx)

I think it was exactly as portrayed in the movie...only less humorous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:20 PM (Q9lwr)

86 And a podcast! But Sefton makes me control my profanity...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (Q9lwr)
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So, that's what, about half your vocabulary, gone?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2021 10:21 PM (XH2ZB)

87 Zappa month is like opening a present everyday! Some days, you get what you totally hoped for. Other days, meh...
Thanks MisHum.
Now. Back to content.
Good evening all you oh-so-lovely friends!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 10:21 PM (16EvI)

88 If that dynamic is changing things could get very ugly down there.
Posted by: CppThis at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (UewuT)


When the illiterates no longer understand the implications of an unwritten code of conduct, one gets to appreciate appreciate just how fragile ANY civilization really is!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:21 PM (hOUT3)

89 I last went to Cancun in 1993. No military patrolling the beach.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:22 PM (ykL1t)

90 Zappa Claus.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, Pureblood at December 07, 2021 10:22 PM (dHnbM)

91 CBD, you sing such nice words.

Posted by: Infidel at December 07, 2021 10:22 PM (qpolg)

92 And a podcast! But Sefton makes me control my profanity...

Dammit! I meant to listen to that today. Is this the third one? I listened to one about 2 weeks ago. Excellent.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:23 PM (nxdel)

93 frank zappa said a lot of things, some made sense, most didn't.

Posted by: chango butt at December 07, 2021 10:23 PM (oSX/P)

94 For some reason, I had never gotten around to watching Death of Stalin til tonight - damn, that is the best movie I have seen in quite a while!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (evAgx)

Using Western accents and idioms was brilliant.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:24 PM (ykL1t)

95 MisHum...you are dragging me back to my youth with Greg Lake's "I Believe In Father Christmas!"

ELP was one of my favorite groups when i was a callow youth...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:24 PM (Q9lwr)

96 Hawaii, like Iraq, is part of my past, which I will never visit again.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 10:24 PM (fBYY+)

97 I've long been fascinated by the birth, life, death, and ongoing afterlife of the USS Arizona. She was a beautiful ship with an interesting history. And 1,177 of her crew died with her in an instant. She is a somber memorial.

RIP to all those lost at Pearl Harbor and in World War 2.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 07, 2021 10:24 PM (fiPZA)

98 And a podcast! But Sefton makes me control my profanity...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (Q9lwr)


So you have become a man of few words?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:25 PM (hOUT3)

99 The Dems certainly own Mitch, but I bet they don't own him proudly. It's like a pimp with a particularly disgusting old clapped-out scabby whore who still makes him money.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 07, 2021 10:03 PM (2ABQr)

Are you talking about Mitch or his spousal unit?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

We been heah forty yeah! You Go now!

Posted by: Mrs. Mitch McConnell at December 07, 2021 10:25 PM (QzkSJ)

100 Oh, and watch out for the deer...
Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (rwusL)


One night a few years ago I was driving in a residential neighborhood along Lake Michigan. It was misty out, looked like it would look in a cheap horror movie. Off to the side, in people's front yards there were a bunch of shadowy figures movie. It was a whole herd of deer. I drove very slowly to get home that night. My brother in law has hit deer twice.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:25 PM (+lVUW)

101 I listened to one about 2 weeks ago. Excellent.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:23 PM (nxdel)

Yup...#3.

We are looking for some snowbound upper-midwest lunatic for the next one, but we can't seem to find any.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:25 PM (Q9lwr)

102 Images taken Sunday show the officers, fully clad in military gear and brandishing assault rifles, marching through the sand as bemused sunseekers look on.
-----

It's surrealistic, circa a long time ago, drunkenly walking from bar to bar with your girl passing smartly uniformed young men carrying shotguns.
Sharp shooters on rooftops with rifles.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 10:25 PM (iam1O)

103 I have no desire to go to Hawaii after I watched Dog the Bounty Hunter. It's seedier then I ever imagined.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:26 PM (ykL1t)

104 My late father was a junior at Clemson Military College, and immediately joined the Army Air Corps and was placed into the test pilot school. He served as an Air Force test pilot for twenty two years until he retired.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 10:26 PM (ptqGC)

105 The NYT is apoplectic today that Meadows has declined to appear voluntarily for the J6 commission. Buried under several paragraphs of unmitigated 8th grade girl butt hurt from the Times is the actual fact that others (like Eastman) have shown that you don't really have to show up and confess your sins to Dems Reps like Adam Schiff...they have very little power and, despite what a demented Lynn Cheney fantasizes about, they aren't a supra prosecutorial body.

Congress was not created to be some court of law. I think these Congressman actually all knew that and just wanted the headlines, but the liberal press idiots with little IQ are starting to finally find that out, too.

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 10:26 PM (5iUNf)

106 I can dress my Spam with pineapple and cue up some Don Ho background music. There. The Hawaiian experience.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Meatbag at December 07, 2021 10:26 PM (4I/2K)

107 So, that's what, about half your vocabulary, gone?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2021 10:21 PM (XH2ZB)

At least, but it's still bigger than yours...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:26 PM (Q9lwr)

108 Frank Zappa was, as a young man, the victim of law enforcement entrapment. He started a recording studio and was approached by a local undercover agent who hired him to record a song that had at least one of the 7 banned words on it, which Zappa recorded because he needed the $.
A bust ensued which changed Zappa's political disposition for the rest of this life.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 10:27 PM (7NKxb)

109 "We're telling people don't visit because we don't think we can keep you safe right now," Los Angeles Police Department detective Jamie McBride

-
Virginia tourist slogan: Virginia Is For Lovers

Las Angeles tourist slogan: Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2021 10:27 PM (FVME7)

110 I last went to Cancun in 1993. No military patrolling the beach.
Posted by: Just a side note

In Merida, capital of Yucatan State (Cancun is Quintana Roo) I recall soldiers on every street corner with M1 Carbines.

Quiet and very low crime.

Posted by: Miklos, on the Wey of the Maya at December 07, 2021 10:27 PM (QzkSJ)

111 We are looking for some snowbound upper-midwest lunatic for the next one, but we can't seem to find any.

LOL!! Oh, now he's got to be around here somewhere!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:28 PM (nxdel)

112 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

Go to the American Cemetery at Omaha Beach in Normandy.

The Normans remember...they still love America.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:28 PM (Q9lwr)

113 least, but it's still bigger than yours...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:26 PM (Q9lwr)
-------------

Nuh uh.....


...yeah, okay, I walked into that one. Heh.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2021 10:29 PM (XH2ZB)

114 Sen. Mitch McConnell (RINO-KYJelly)

-
Well, at least he's screwing us politely.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2021 10:29 PM (FVME7)

115 Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 10:26 PM (5i

Isn't that what Bannon's trial is about?

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:29 PM (ykL1t)

116 @78 I feel kind of ashamed for liking Zhukov's character so much, but he comes off as the only actual Man in a cast of manipulative nitwits.

----

Someone who'd seen the movie wrote that Zhukov's character made a certain amount of sense. He'd been out of the capitol for quite some time, and Stalin only called him back to Moscow shortly before Stalin's death. As a result, he hadn't had to constantly worry about an inadvertent comment that might get him on Stalin's hit list. So that, coupled with his status as the hero who saved the Soviet Union in the Great Patriotic War, would have meant that he was the only one of the cast who hadn't spent the last several years jumping at his own shadow.

Posted by: junior at December 07, 2021 10:29 PM (PTw5h)

117 Virginia tourist slogan: Virginia Is For Lovers

Las Angeles tourist slogan: Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2021 10:27 PM (FVME7)

Montana: Fuck around, Find Out.

Wyoming: *snort* fag!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, from Butte, America at December 07, 2021 10:29 PM (x8Wzq)

118 What's the big deal about armed militia on Mexican resort beaches?

That shit's the norm in Jamaica. I've been to Half Moon a number of times, and their beach has patrols through the late evening...and it not a private patrol, it's regular militia.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 07, 2021 10:29 PM (BgMrQ)

119 Rum or vodka mixed in with Hawaiian Punch? Tiny parasol umbrella.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Meatbag at December 07, 2021 10:30 PM (4I/2K)

120 And a podcast! But Sefton makes me control my profanity...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (Q9lwr)
* * * *
Your podcasts rock! The duo of you and Sefton is nothing short of inspired. Entertaining, educational and uplifting.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:30 PM (rwusL)

121 Some cheeseheads talk like that. When they are drunk.

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 07, 2021 10:30 PM (5SzKU)

122 About thirty three years ago, my husband and I dodged another nightmare Christmas with his lefty family.

We spent Christmas and New Years in Hawaii and it was wonderful.

Before we left, we visited the USS Arizona. The Japanese visitors should have been banned. Good Lord, they were awful.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 10:31 PM (ptqGC)

123 Your podcasts rock!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:30 PM (rwusL)

Thank you very much.

Seriously...that is great to hear.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:31 PM (Q9lwr)

124 Your podcasts rock! The duo of you and Sefton is nothing short of inspired. Entertaining, educational and uplifting.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient

Sorry.

Gabe lisped better.

Posted by: Miklos, recalling podcasts of yore at December 07, 2021 10:31 PM (QzkSJ)

125 Al Pacino Approved ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/media

*scroll down

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2021 10:31 PM (qAR6u)

126 The Normans remember...they still love America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Interesting one can blow up half a city to liberate it and be thanked...shows how much they had lost.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM (r1z5A)

127 MisHum...you are dragging me back to my youth with Greg Lake's "I Believe In Father Christmas!"

ELP was one of my favorite groups when i was a callow youth...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:24 PM (Q9lwr)


To complement that track...
ELP - The Nutrocker
https://youtu.be/y30jjHw0ecw

Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM (mZUr4)

128 I grew up, for the most part, in a Pre-fab (modular) home. It was a "National Homes Corporation Cadet #54" model. Assembled in 1956. Four bedrooms, one bath, 900 square feet. My bedroom was one bed wide by one bed deep. Stout little house, still standing.

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM (AmoqO)

129 And a podcast! But Sefton makes me control my profanity...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Every podcast should have a Chavez Minute

Posted by: Miklos, ?!?&%%!!! at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM (QzkSJ)

130 Good evening, Horde!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM (TdMsT)

131 Go to the American Cemetery at Omaha Beach in Normandy.
The Normans remember...they still love America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:28 PM (Q9lwr)


That was on my bucket list, but not with what Europe has become.
I am sure that if I could get there, the dust would come sweeping in from the sea!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM (hOUT3)

132 100
I'm convinced that deer are the retards of the animal kingdom.
They kinda hang around the side of the road, and then run out just as you get there.
There are many elk and bighorn sheep in my neighborhood.
Some of the elk challenge a vehicle and usually win. I never see bighorn hit. But retarded deer...carcasses everywhere...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 10:33 PM (16EvI)

133 {{{Ladyl}}}
Hope you had a great day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:33 PM (hOUT3)

134 That prefab looks like an older gas station and I love it. Always wanted to buy an old gas station or bank building and turn it into a home.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:34 PM (ykL1t)

135 That shit's the norm in Jamaica. I've been to Half Moon a number of times, and their beach has patrols through the late evening...and it not a private patrol, it's regular militia.

Seriously? I'm hoping to do a destination vacay in 2023, was hoping for Jamaica. Off course I still need the money lol.. but I can dream.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:34 PM (nxdel)

136 55 I got to take a gallup poll. I was a little rough on ol' Mitch.
Posted by: nerdygirl

F bombs just add clarity.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:14 PM (r1z5A)


Not an option. The worst you could give was "poor". They asked about Biden, Kamala, McCarthy, McConnell, Schumer, Pelosi, Justice Roberts, Congress, etc. There was one place at the end where you could type a comment. Of course I didn't use any swear words because I wanted them to understand that normal, responsible people are not happy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:34 PM (+lVUW)

137 Rum or vodka mixed in with Hawaiian Punch? Tiny parasol umbrella.
Posted by: Count de Monet

They are all from China, and impregnated with fentanyl

Posted by: Miklos, cautionarily at December 07, 2021 10:34 PM (QzkSJ)

138 Go to the American Cemetery at Omaha Beach in Normandy.

The Normans remember...they still love America.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:28 PM (Q9lwr)

Been there twice, and they actually do.

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 10:35 PM (AmoqO)

139 {{Ladyl}}!!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:35 PM (nxdel)

140 I want my husband to experience Normandy with me. Our dearest friend, who came ashore there and served under Patton through the rest of the war, recently died.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 10:35 PM (ptqGC)

141 One thing I regret about my years in Europe was not visiting Normandy. But I was young, and despite being an active- duty soldier, I am not certain I would have appreciated it fully. But, maybe I would have. We'll never know now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, from Butte, America at December 07, 2021 10:35 PM (x8Wzq)

142 Plus they make the best cheese in the world.

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 10:35 PM (AmoqO)

143 I'm convinced that deer are the retards of the animal kingdom.
.Posted by: COMountainMarie


Thier IQ seems to go up considerable around hunting season.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:35 PM (r1z5A)

144 And a podcast! But Sefton makes me control my profanity...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:19 PM (Q9lwr)


Don't forget us when you're too big for this place

Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 10:36 PM (mZUr4)

145 Go to the American Cemetery at Omaha Beach in Normandy.
The Normans remember...they still love America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Also in Belgium/Netherlands.

Even a lot of the younger ones.

Posted by: Operation Miklos Garden at December 07, 2021 10:36 PM (QzkSJ)

146 Seriously? I'm hoping to do a destination vacay in 2023, was hoping for Jamaica. Off course I still need the money lol.. but I can dream.
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:34 PM (nxdel)

US Virgin Islands.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:36 PM (ykL1t)

147 Just finished reading R. Admiral Robert weTheobald "The Final Secret of Pearl Harbor, 1954, where he defends Adm. Kimmel and General Short, who were scapegoated for the attack. He clearly proves that Roosevelt deliberately forbade their being adequately warned. Extremely good, and must have been one of the earliest conclusive reporting on that.
Got the book from my late father in law, George Conklin, Marine AWSC-8, all across the pacific until a final six months on Okinawa until 1946. My uncle Elmer Glidden Marine Pilot in the pacific, and my still anon father Army motor pool in the Alutens, months in a field hospital.
No military historian by any means, but Pacific action interests me.

Posted by: From that Time at December 07, 2021 10:36 PM (4780s)

148 Welp, my back is out. God bless all who have served and still serve.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 10:37 PM (ptqGC)

149 Don't forget us when you're too big for this place
Posted by: Doof

Gonna do a strategic marriage with the election results dickhead

Posted by: Miklos, Holder of Ancient Grudges at December 07, 2021 10:37 PM (QzkSJ)

150 That was on my bucket list, but not with what Europe has become.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM (hOUT3)

Hold your nose and go. Fly into Paris, grab the fast train to Normandy right from the airport, grab a cheap hotel and a cheaper car, and drive around the entire region.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:37 PM (Q9lwr)

151 I'm here late, but did I read that CBD has a podcast?

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:37 PM (TdMsT)

152 Seriously? I'm hoping to do a destination vacay in 2023, was hoping for Jamaica. Off course I still need the money lol.. but I can dream.


Jamaica is a little sad off-resort, and iffy, but some of the resorts there are very nice! just ... stay on them.

since I like to be able to freely move about islands I visit, I REALLY like Aruba. if you haven't been, it's honestly one of the best Caribbean islands to visit! so lovely, tons to do, great resorts, great beaches, and above all else - GREAT PEOPLE! very safe! I would so move there.

Posted by: Black Orchid the Unboosted at December 07, 2021 10:38 PM (j9HX3)

153 63 Scrambled eggs and toast really is an excellent breakfast.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at December 07, 2021 10:15 PM (c4vBB)


One of the best things about retirement is that I can have breakfast for lunch, two slices of bacon, two eggs, and two slices of toast.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:38 PM (+lVUW)

154 Not the news:
The French horn isn't French.
The English horn isn't English.
As you were.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

The Republican Party is not Republican.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2021 10:38 PM (FVME7)

155 And for all the Apple product loving Hordesters out there, Tim Cook has played the corporatist role perfectly

shorturl.at/ckxA0

H/T Insty

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:38 PM (hOUT3)

156 How much of the German Atlantic Wall is left?

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:38 PM (ykL1t)

157 Before we left, we visited the USS Arizona. The Japanese visitors should have been banned. Good Lord, they were awful.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 10:31 PM (ptqGC)
* * * *
My experience with the Japanese visitors at the USS Arizona memorial was the exact opposite. I was very impressed by the respect they paid.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at December 07, 2021 10:38 PM (rwusL)

158 did I read that CBD has a podcast?

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:37 PM (TdMsT)

You did indeed.

Sefton and I. We post them in the sidebar. but they can be found at the link in my nic as well....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:38 PM (Q9lwr)

159 Seriously? I'm hoping to do a destination vacay in 2023, was hoping for Jamaica. Off course I still need the money lol.. but I can dream.
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 07, 2021 10:34 PM (nxdel)

And then there's the warnings not to by weed from locals who wander the beaches...

Other than that, it's wonderful!

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (BgMrQ)

160 The thing about the Pearl Harbor attack is that everyone knew it could be done but no one that Japan would have the audacity to do it.
Which is why they did it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (7NKxb)

161 >>US Virgin Islands.

British Virgin Islands.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (ZLI7S)

162 Not the news:
The French horn isn't French.
The English horn isn't English.
As you were.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

The Republican Party is not Republican.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2021 10:38 PM (FVME7)

Dan Crenshaw is not a conservative.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Meatbag at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (4I/2K)

163 Isn't that what Bannon's trial is about?
Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:29 PM (ykL1t)

He refused to comply with a lawful subpoena to appear before Congress - they do have the power to compel you comply because they are invoking the will of the people of the United States to hear witnesses in matters before Congressional committees. He could have just invoked his 5th amendment rights, and there is nothing that Congress can do at that point.

Instead, he's being shrewd. He's making them present the evidence they are using to issue this subpoena, and they are compelled by law to present it to him, in full. They don't want to, so they are trying to get the right to see the evidence compelling testimony squashed. I think they lose under the 4th amendment. But whether he can "publicly" publish that evidence is a different story, which is what he wants - we'll see...

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (5iUNf)

164 When I was in Jamaica I didn't see anywhere near the amount of security. I asked a guy and he said if someone in Jamaica wanted you to be dead you'd be dead nothing anyone can do so just relax. Oh ok thanks I feel much better now.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (a1pQd)

165 COMM
I'm in central WA and the bighorns don't always make it.
I've had to shoo them off a highway once. Friends live about 20 miles from me and had maybe 80-100 elk cross the road in front of their car a few days ago.
Deer can be just pests.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (TfRuS)

166 I'm here late, but did I read that CBD has a podcast?
Posted by: Ladyl

Oh yeah - and J.J.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (mD/uy)

167 I want my husband to experience Normandy with me. Our dearest friend, who came ashore there and served under Patton through the rest of the war, recently died.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

My Uncle John

https://tinyurl.com/yc8raek2

Posted by: Miklos, Holder of Ancient Obligations at December 07, 2021 10:40 PM (QzkSJ)

168 {{{Hrothgar}}}

{{{Jewells}}}

{{{Jane}}}

Hrothgar--I had a good day, thanks for asking!

Played mixed doubles this evening. Any day with tennis is great day!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:40 PM (TdMsT)

169 This is kind of cool. An Unmade Eames-Designed Modular Home Could Make a Comeback

It is in a pure engineering/architect sense, but insidious in another.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (1t5dY)

170 Hawaii is awesome.

Spent many a Spring Break on a few islands with my boys. Easter Mass on Maui in A 100+ year old Catholic Church, Maria Lanikila was just..... beautiful.

Oahu is pretty.

The Big Island-is Majestic.

Kawaii is the rainy island. It's amazing.
Molokai was a leper colony. It's. Well. Go there.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (U2p+3)

171 One of the best things about retirement is that I can have breakfast for lunch, two slices of bacon, two eggs, and two slices of toast.
Posted by: nerdygirl

And supper too if one desires.

Isn't it grand?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (mD/uy)

172 I was never really a jazz fan, but I have to say that the musical score to Cowboy Bebop (the anime series) is pretty damn good.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (II3Gr)

173 66 I'm here late, but did I read that CBD has a podcast?
Posted by: Ladyl

Oh yeah - and J.J.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (mD/uy)

Is this real? How do I access it?

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (TdMsT)

174 German Chocolate Cake is not German

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (ykL1t)

175 131 Go to the American Cemetery at Omaha Beach in Normandy.
The Normans remember...they still love America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:28 PM (Q9lwr)

That was on my bucket list, but not with what Europe has become.
I am sure that if I could get there, the dust would come sweeping in from the sea!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM
I win the megasuperpowerlottaball, I'm taking all y'all to Normandy. And I' wading out to my neck and going ashore just like Pappy Eromero did on D-Day, then we're getting viking-drunk.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (0OP+5)

176 It's a little known fact that the Gutenberg printing press was singularly successful because the Germans were the first to be able to mass-produce and distribute 4-color pornography.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (BPuaD)

177 Hold your nose and go. Fly into Paris, grab the fast train to Normandy right from the airport, grab a cheap hotel and a cheaper car, and drive around the entire region.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:37 PM (Q9lwr)


Hmm, well Notre Dame is right out now (I have seen in back in the day), so this might be the only part of Europe worth seeing and that I still would like to see!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:42 PM (hOUT3)

178 143

Not here. This is true with elk, but the deer are too stupid to get it....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 10:42 PM (16EvI)

179 "We're telling people don't visit because we don't think we can keep you safe right now," Los Angeles Police Department detective Jamie McBride

Should we keep paying taxes? We probably should, huh?

Posted by: t-bird at December 07, 2021 10:43 PM (n/x6m)

180 {{{Nurse}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:43 PM (TdMsT)

181 Right here dear Lady:
https://cutjibnewsletter.com/podcast/cjn-speaks-episode-3/

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 10:43 PM (mD/uy)

182 Kawaii has the "Grand Canyon of the Pacific" which is, by itself worth experiencing.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 10:43 PM (7NKxb)

183 168
Sounds like a perfect {{{Ladyl}} kind of day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:44 PM (hOUT3)

184 If you want to be able to see a truly impressive, yet still highly accessible Military Cemetery here in the Lower 48, you might give Ft. Rosecrans National Cemetery a respectful visit.

Point Loma, overlooking Ballast Point Submarine Base, and the North Island Naval Air Station, San Diego Bay.

Plan an extra hour or three, and just spend it quietly conversing with the names on a dozen or so headstones. Read their names out loud. As long as their names are still spoken, they'll not be forgotten.

Render. Honors.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 10:44 PM (QzJWU)

185 181 Right here dear Lady:
https://cutjibnewsletter.com/podcast/cjn-speaks-episode-3/
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 10:43 PM (mD/uy)


Thank you, dahlin. I'm going to bookmark it!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:44 PM (TdMsT)

186 129 And a podcast! But Sefton makes me control my profanity...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Every podcast should have a Chavez Minute
Posted by: Miklos, ?!?&%%!!! at December 07, 2021 10:32 PM (QzkSJ)

*Sefton* needs to control *your* profanity? Wow.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 07, 2021 10:45 PM (mdjgu)

187 Hold your nose and go. Fly into Paris, grab the fast train to Normandy right from the airport, grab a cheap hotel and a cheaper car, and drive around the entire region.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Les Unvaxxed non passez!

Posted by: The Spirit of the Marne 2022 at December 07, 2021 10:45 PM (QzkSJ)

188 Another pre-fab home, the kind of a rabit hole to go down in the internet is famous for, are called Lustron Homes.

Right after the 2.0 war a lot of factories suddenly found themselves with an excess of metal fabrication equipment and a lot less demand. They were constructed of enameled steel panels. Something like only 6,000 were built, but they were fairly well sprinkled around the country. You've probably seen one without knowing what it was, exactly. They were pastel colors in blue or reddish or tan.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (n0Iwq)

189 I win the megasuperpowerlottaball, I'm taking all y'all to Normandy. And I' wading out to my neck and going ashore just like Pappy Eromero did on D-Day, then we're getting viking-drunk.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (0OP+5)

Grandpa Aspirin Factory was there. I wish I could have made a trip while stationed in Europe.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, Pureblood at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (dHnbM)

190 The King's College does a Christmas program every year and 2010 was one of the better ones.

Here's O Holy Night from that performance:

https://youtu.be/qrUB9AEnnEc

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (ZSK0i)

191 Should we keep paying taxes? We probably should, huh?
Posted by: t-bird at December 07, 2021 10:43 PM (n/x6m)


Child, paying taxes is clearly an obligation upon all legal citizens. Protecting tax-paying citizens is not an obligation for the police funded with those tax dollars!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (hOUT3)

192 Pointe du Hoc down from Omaha Beach is an amazing visit. Still littered with bomb craters and destroyed gun emplacements. Regan dictated a memorial there with a rousing speech some years past. Story of the Rangers assault there is amazing

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (AmoqO)

193 offering "castrations" on sado-masochistic websites and said several men paid him money for torturing them and removing their testicles,


Germany, right on schedule.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (iam1O)

194 Ladyl!
Smooches!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (U2p+3)

195 194 Ladyl!
Smooches!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (U2p+3)


Miss you, dahlin.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:47 PM (TdMsT)

196 in fairness, is it get fuckd sbux or get fuckd buffalo, deciding to go unin is going to fuck both hard.

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 07, 2021 10:48 PM (K3ZCc)

197 Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 10:44 PM (QzJWU)

Well said JSND, and a good way to remember, and honor, the fallen!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 10:48 PM (hOUT3)

198 Render. Honors.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim


See? It's already dusty in here...Let alone where the heros have fallen.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:48 PM (r1z5A)

199 That last picture is like a war crime or something today.

Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2021 10:48 PM (mbFEM)

200 "We're telling people don't visit because we don't think we can keep you safe right now," Los Angeles Police Department detective Jamie McBride


there was a time they said that at the overnight

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 07, 2021 10:49 PM (K3ZCc)

201 *Sefton* needs to control *your* profanity? Wow.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

One definition of a Southern Gentleman is a man who can cuss for three minutes, or compliment a lady for five, without repeating himself.

Posted by: Gentlemanly Miklos at December 07, 2021 10:49 PM (QzkSJ)

202 And Kings College in Cambridge, UK is pretty spectacular. Trinity College is just blocks away.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, Pureblood at December 07, 2021 10:49 PM (dHnbM)

203 165

I guess it's different between states. Bighorn here give you a "look" when you come up on them. NEVER make eye contact. They take great joy in f'n up your vehicle. Especially when babies are present!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 10:49 PM (16EvI)

204 That last picture is like a war crime or something today.
Posted by: blaster

Triggering

Posted by: Purple Blue Haired trans-Miklos at December 07, 2021 10:51 PM (QzkSJ)

205 "O' Holy Night" by Amira. She was eleven.


https://tinyurl.com/yv5z4tr9

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 10:52 PM (AmoqO)

206 Some pretty interesting FZ stuff of late. Things I hadn't thought of for awhile. Topped with a bit of IA. Well done, MisHum. Well done.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 07, 2021 10:52 PM (7ZQe3)

207 offering "castrations" on sado-masochistic websites and said several men paid him money for torturing them and removing their testicles

We endorse this forward thinking. In fact were not just members, but co owners!

Posted by: Conservative, Inc. at December 07, 2021 10:52 PM (kOpft)

208 The picture at the end reminds me of visiting Bratislava, Slovakia. They have many openings in the sidewalks where statues of men look out.

Posted by: R.F. Hirsch at December 07, 2021 10:52 PM (oMkPq)

209 Weird. Just went outside to put the car in the garage, and the air was full of the odor of scorched Bakelite. Light breeze from the northeast. No sign of anything burning in the nearby 'hood, anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2021 10:53 PM (P3gRi)

210 Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:47 PM (TdMsT)

Good evening, {{{Ladyl}}} - glad you're back on the court!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 07, 2021 10:53 PM (Agr8U)

211 The picture at the end reminds me of visiting Bratislava, Slovakia. They have many openings in the sidewalks where statues of men look out.
Posted by: R.F. Hirsch

Wild and Crazy Guys!

Posted by: Georg, Yortuk and Miklos Festrunk from Bratislava at December 07, 2021 10:53 PM (QzkSJ)

212 The nicest place I've been in the Caribbean was probably the cayman islands. Hard to screw up an island that small. Its all ocean stuff though. Boating and beach and diving.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 10:53 PM (a1pQd)

213 Kawaii, no such place.


There is a Kauai though.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 10:54 PM (rqQle)

214 So, today I watched several hours of WWII movies. I thought I'd seen them all, but today mostly stayed with a Dec 7 theme.
God bless all those vets, and all of you who have served since then.
A true thanks to you all!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 10:54 PM (16EvI)

215 Is this real? How do I access it?

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:41 PM (TdMsT)

In my nic, and on Apple Podcast...

https://tinyurl.com/44n2dnyd

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:54 PM (Q9lwr)

216 COMM
My closest encounter here with a bighorn was coming across one that had been, very, recently taken down by a cougar.
Why yes, I had my pistol out and backed away slowly.
I certainly didn't want to interrupt his lunch.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at December 07, 2021 10:54 PM (TfRuS)

217 I'm convinced that deer are the retards of the animal kingdom.

Speaking of retards of the animal kingdom, how about rabbits that put their nests of babies in a yard where mom rabbit is regularly chased around by a beagle? I've had to bury a couple of mangled baby bunnies.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 10:55 PM (+lVUW)

218 The nicest place I've been in the Caribbean was probably the cayman islands. Hard to screw up an island that small. Its all ocean stuff though. Boating and beach and diving.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 10:53 PM (a1pQd)


Did you swim with stingrays? Visit the town of Hell?

Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 10:55 PM (mZUr4)

219 Howdy, MisHum, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at December 07, 2021 10:57 PM (PMJAR)

220 Kawaii, no such place.


There is a Kauai though.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return

Overruled!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge, rather bored lately at December 07, 2021 10:57 PM (QzkSJ)

221 201

Swoon!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 10:57 PM (16EvI)

222 Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (n0Iwq)

Lot of these in Louisiana.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:57 PM (ykL1t)

223 Howdy, MisHum, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at December 07, 2021 10:57 PM (PMJAR)


Yo - Double C

Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 10:57 PM (mZUr4)

224 Did you swim with stingrays? Visit the town of Hell?
Posted by: Doof

Stingrays....Link Wray....

Posted by: Miklosian synapses at December 07, 2021 10:58 PM (QzkSJ)

225 Speaking of retards of the animal kingdom, how about rabbits that put their nests of babies in a yard where mom rabbit is regularly chased around by a beagle? I've had to bury a couple of mangled baby bunnies.

Posted by: nerdygirl


Yeah, grandkids cat is always showing off the latest bunny toy to them,,,

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 10:58 PM (r1z5A)

226 Right after the 2.0 war a lot of factories suddenly found themselves with an excess of metal fabrication equipment and a lot less demand. They were constructed of enameled steel panels. Something like only 6,000 were built, but they were fairly well sprinkled around the country. You've probably seen one without knowing what it was, exactly. They were pastel colors in blue or reddish or tan.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2021 10:46 PM (n0Iwq)

Interesting! Probably pretty much fireproof, and termite-proof. Kind of hard to modify or expand, though. That Kwikset house looks pretty, but I'd bet that arched roof could become an airfoil in a strong wind storm.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2021 10:58 PM (P3gRi)

227 Love all of you guys, and gals. You're the best. Never forget that, ever. Cause if you do, I might show up at a MoMe. And you wouldn't want that.

Trust me, you wouldn't want that.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2021 10:59 PM (m0zqP)

228 A life without passion.
A life without love.

Baseline.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 10:59 PM (U2p+3)

229 Good evening y'all!

We did get to go to Pearl Harbor in August 2019. Unfortunately, the Arizona was closed at the time so we could only take a boat ride by it. Still spent two days at the museum. Love the story of Dorie Miller!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 07, 2021 11:00 PM (/UQ/R)

230 Zappa was a strange cat. He rented an old huge log cabin just outside Laurel Canyon that was once owned by Tom Mix. He had a troupe of followers called GTOs (Girls Together Outrageously). Lots of parties at the cabin. Frank himself didn't do drugs, and didn't much care for hippies. There is some sort of nexus or connection with the girls and with Vito Paulekas and Carl Franzoni, a couple of really strange cats. They, and their "Freaks" were the earliest or prototype "hippies" and if you were a club like the Whiskey a Go Go or somebody that wanted to have arrived, well you had to have some hippies. And Vito and his crew fit the bill. Instant party and plenty of photogenic wack a doodles for the tourists or film crews. You've seen Vito and his "Freaks" countless times in 1960s films and news reports and documentaries. They really got around.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2021 11:00 PM (n0Iwq)

231 US Virgin Islands.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:36 PM (ykL1t)


Have you ever gone snorkeling. It's a must.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 11:00 PM (+lVUW)

232 The cove on Grand Cayman that the cruise ships use for an anchorage, has some of the most beautiful waters to be seen.

I can be quite content to not make any shore excursion, but rather, sit on the weather decks, book and cigar and bourbon to hand, and just chill. The view is magnificent, and sufficient unto itself to soothe the soul.

Only thing that'd make it better would be that I was so chillin' on the deck of my own fifty footer, anchored properly distant, but in the same waters.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 11:00 PM (QzJWU)

233 >>> Kawaii, no such place.


There is a Kauai though.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 10:54 PM (rqQle)


If there was a kawaii place it would be populated by hello kitties and anthropomorphic kitchen devices winking at you and giggling.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:00 PM (a1pQd)

234
In my nic, and on Apple Podcast...

https://tinyurl.com/44n2dnyd
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2021 10:54 PM (Q9lwr)


Thank you! I'm going to listen either later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 11:01 PM (TdMsT)

235 Love all of you guys, and gals. You're the best. Never forget that, ever. Cause if you do, I might show up at a MoMe. And you wouldn't want that.

Trust me, you wouldn't want that.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

I'm in for a U.S. Grant

Posted by: Miklos GoFunds at December 07, 2021 11:01 PM (QzkSJ)

236 Whatever.

I need a judge.
Pile on.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 11:01 PM (U2p+3)

237 US Virgin Islands.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 10:36 PM (ykL1t)

Have you ever gone snorkeling. It's a must.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 11:00 PM (+lVUW)

Actually my last snorkeling adventure was in Cancun 28 years ago.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 11:02 PM (ykL1t)

238 227 Love all of you guys, and gals. You're the best. Never forget that, ever. Cause if you do, I might show up at a MoMe. And you wouldn't want that.

Trust me, you wouldn't want that.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2021 10:59 PM
It's like most meetings, you go up to the podium and say 'My name is Eromero, or BeckoningChasm, or whatever', and the audience says 'Hi Eromero, or BeckoningChasm, or whatever.' Then you get a drink and light a cigar.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 11:02 PM (0OP+5)

239 If there was a kawaii place it would be populated by hello kitties and anthropomorphic kitchen devices winking at you and giggling.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:00 PM (a1pQd)

And ambulatory pianos.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2021 11:02 PM (P3gRi)

240 Whatever.

I need a judge.
Pile on.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 11:01 PM (U2p+3)


Whatever needs to be judged?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 11:02 PM (hOUT3)

241 In my nic, and on Apple Podcast...


Now you're just bragging.

Posted by: Miklos, witha voice made for American Sign Language at December 07, 2021 11:02 PM (QzkSJ)

242 210 Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 10:47 PM (TdMsT)

Good evening, {{{Ladyl}}} - glad you're back on the court!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 07, 2021 10:53 PM (Agr8U)


{{{S'Puppy}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 11:02 PM (TdMsT)

243 I'm convinced that deer are the retards of the animal kingdom.

*stares blankly*

Posted by: Turkey at December 07, 2021 11:03 PM (dHnbM)

244 Made Hawaii in 1971. Saw my wife for the first time in six months there. Remember a few odd things, other than that.

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 11:04 PM (AmoqO)

245 Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2021 11:00 PM (n0Iwq)
I have the GTOs album. Bought in in the ships store 1968.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 11:04 PM (0OP+5)

246 And ambulatory pianos.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Hmm

I saw Fats Domino knock a Baby Grand across the stage to within an inch of the edge of the stage.

Knew precisely what he was doing.

Posted by: Miklos, formerly of Nawlins at December 07, 2021 11:04 PM (QzkSJ)

247 Pile on.
Posted by: nurse ratched


Is this gonna turn into one of those baby oil, jello, crisco, threads?

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 11:05 PM (r1z5A)

248 I'm convinced that deer are the retards of the animal kingdom.

*stares blankly*
Posted by: Turkey at December 07, 2021 11:03 PM (dHnbM)

You both turn to geniuses during hunting season.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 11:05 PM (ykL1t)

249 And then there's the warnings not to by weed from locals who wander the beaches...

Other than that, it's wonderful!
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 07, 2021 10:39 PM (BgMrQ)


On the cruise ship they warned people about buying dope in Jamaica. Part of the warning was that if they were arrested, they would not be dealing with the American justice system.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 11:05 PM (+lVUW)

250 216 Winston
We have a dense population of cougars here. I never saw one until a couple of years back. On a snowy day, I saw four cubs crossing the road. A beautiful sight to behold!
Lesson: stay in the vehicle, and always have defense...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 11:05 PM (16EvI)

251 I've met Nurse, and Judge her at about 9.5 or so.

That's me, Mr. Judgy McJudgment! *slams gavel*


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 11:05 PM (QzJWU)

252 By the way, don't underestimate the upholding of the Conscription Laws in 1919 by the SCOTUS in the effort to have vaxx mandates to become legally enforceable in the US.

The SCOTUS held that the Congress can indeed conscript or raise an army in conjunction with declaring war, without regard to CONSENT by American citizens, and in the manner or criteria as so proscribed by Congress, to defend the United States of America. I happen to think this ruling was wrongly held with regards to compelling service. Nothing in the Constitution compels service in the military to fight and serve in any war. But under certain restrictions, I can get behind an amendment to the Constitution that compels service.

But nothing in the Constitution compels compliance to healthcare. The one lone Constitutional case suggested that incurring a small fine was not the act of compelling (Small Pox).

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 11:05 PM (5iUNf)

253 Read at Insty, they are re-writing 1984 to tell it from a womens perspective.

As the article says, Orwell would find this ironic.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2021 11:06 PM (Avp4z)

254 Love to Nurse Ratched.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2021 11:06 PM (m0zqP)

255 223 Hey Doof!

Posted by: callsign claymore at December 07, 2021 11:07 PM (PMJAR)

256 My buddy went to buy weed in the Bahamas and came back without his wallet and no weed.


Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 11:08 PM (ykL1t)

257 Probably pretty much fireproof, and termite-proof. Kind of hard to modify or expand, though.

Funny you should mention that. There was a Lustron built right next to my Grandparents. He hated it, called it "that goddamned tin house". I'm not sure he was trying to be funny or not. It was initially a vacant lot in 1930s suburbia, and he and the other property owner discussed purchasing it so as to have a common area for kids to play and whatnot. Then one day after the war a flatbed trailer had been parked in front of the lot. What could it be? Yeah.

The damned tin house. The guy that built it was tighter than bark on a tree. He didn't have fire insurance, "what could catch fire?" Not sure that's a good idea. He was so cheap he wouldn't subscribe to the newspaper, and just read gramps paper when he was done with it. Eventually they became good friends.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2021 11:08 PM (n0Iwq)

258 That's me, Mr. Judgy McJudgment! *slams gavel*


Jim

*smiling glare*

-zombie Flip Wilson

Posted by: Here Come the Judge at December 07, 2021 11:08 PM (QzkSJ)

259 254 Love to Nurse Ratched.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Love to you.
Please. Find the kitty.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 11:09 PM (U2p+3)

260 >>> Did you swim with stingrays? Visit the town of Hell?
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 10:55 PM (mZUr4)


I did the stingray thing not the town. My wife wanted to do it in memory of Steve. So we get out there and the stingrays are like big floating puppy dogs but my wife is freaking out. I'm trying to get more squid out of a bucket to feed them, I hear a scream and look back to my wife who's trying to ascend to the peak of a nice old Jewish lady's back. So I get back there and try to get a picture of her feeding one of the things but every time they sweep in she panics, the rays are like nom nom nom, ... aaaawww. But that was fun for me at least. The rays are pretty cool

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:10 PM (a1pQd)

261 COMM
I do a fair bit of hiking. I've encountere3d cougars three times, black bears twice. Badger, once, but it had also been very recently killed by a cougar.
They are shy around people.
Saw two grey wolves crossing a highway last year. Deer come into town here and wander around. Elk stay further away but they are everywhere. A rancher here raises buffalo for the meat and hides.
Most of the critters are alert but I agree, deer are dumb as stumps.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at December 07, 2021 11:11 PM (TfRuS)

262 For y'all talking about deer. Yes, they're dumb...and they're mean. Lots of violence in Deer World, against fawns and adults alike.


Posted by: callsign claymore at December 07, 2021 11:11 PM (PMJAR)

263 zombie Flip Wilson

Posted by: Here Come the Judge at December 07, 2021 11:08 PM (QzkSJ)


Attended a dress rehearsal for the Flip Wilson Show in LA back in 1969. He had Marcel Marceau on. I fucking hate mimes.

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 11:12 PM (AmoqO)

264 wife who's trying to ascend to the peak of a nice old Jewish lady's back.


We do leave The Villages sometimes.

Posted by: Nice Old Jewish Ladies at December 07, 2021 11:12 PM (QzkSJ)

265 Pile on.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Is this gonna turn into one of those baby oil, jello, crisco, threads?
Posted by: Some Rat

*dozing off.. ..... WHOA! Ears perk up.*

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 11:12 PM (mD/uy)

266 Well, for some unaccountable reason, I am real sleepy already, so I am going to go to bed right now. Feel perfectly fine, just sleepy. So, Good Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2021 11:13 PM (P3gRi)

267 259 254 Love to Nurse Ratched.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Love to you.
Please. Find the kitty.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 11:09 PM (U2p+3)


Beckoning Chasm--please heed Nurse's advice.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 11:13 PM (TdMsT)

268 But nothing in the Constitution compels compliance to healthcare. The one lone Constitutional case suggested that incurring a small fine was not the act of compelling (Small Pox). Posted by: Boswell

Don't want to get into a huge discussion of police powers but generally speaking the federal government, unlike states, does not have plenary police powers to regulate for health, safety, and welfare of people. Those plenary police powers are reserved for the states from the 10th amendment. Instead, most of Congressional police power comes from the commerce clause and the difficult argument then becomes whether a sufficient nexus has been made between interstate commerce and the federal action proposed. NFIB v. Sebelius 7-2 majority put a lid on commerce clause power by adopting Randy Barnette's argument that making people engage in commerce was beyond Congressional power. But, then the 5-4 majority upheld the tax mandate as valid. Under that understanding, Congress could nominally tax you for not being vaxxed but not mandate a vax for you. Unclear about whether states could do the same as Jacobson predated right to privacy which includes the right to die.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 11:13 PM (9hXN1)

269 He had Marcel Marceau on. I fucking hate mimes.
Posted by: Javems

Marcel Marceau

In his final box

Posted by: Miklos, attempting to vocalize at December 07, 2021 11:13 PM (QzkSJ)

270 There should be an open season with no bag limit on mimes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 07, 2021 11:14 PM (dHnbM)

271 Kawaii, Kuai
OK, you got me on the spelling.
One is a piano one has the Grand Canyon of the Pacific.
It's an easy confusion.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 11:14 PM (7NKxb)

272 ..Attended a dress rehearsal for the Flip Wilson Show in LA back in 1969. He had Marcel Marceau on. I fucking hate mimes. Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 11:12 PM (AmoqO)

Maybe go to the Army/Navy Store, and buy a surplus mime detector?

Related, the United Mimeworkers Union failed in their first and only strike, as they were unable to articulate their demands.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 11:14 PM (QzJWU)

273 Is this gonna turn into one of those baby oil, jello, crisco, threads?
Posted by: Some Rat


Add some pork rinds and we're talkin'

Posted by: Miklos, Down Home with two (2) suitable inflatable pools (been cleaned since the last time) at December 07, 2021 11:15 PM (QzkSJ)

274 I lazy snorkel. I don't dive or anything, I just float face down looking at cool stuff underwater while breathing through the thing. I'm from Kansas and there's only so much you can expect from me ocean-wise.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:16 PM (a1pQd)

275 Ach du Hoden!

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2021 11:16 PM (vuisn)

276 160 The thing about the Pearl Harbor attack is that everyone knew it could be done but no one that Japan would have the audacity to do it.
Which is why they did it.

In 1941 nobody but Japan had the ability to do it, except maybe the Royal Navy, who had absolutely no reason to. All other navies had one or zero carriers and there was no such thing as a land based bomber that could get there.

Posted by: Azjaeger at December 07, 2021 11:16 PM (3/XaG)

277 Early evening tonight. Always feel a bit melancholy on Dec. 7th as my grandfather did not make it back from the Pacific Theater--killed in Philippines leaving a 21 year old widow and children with one on the way when it happened.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 11:17 PM (9hXN1)

278 Related, the United Mimeworkers Union failed in their first and only strike, as they were unable to articulate their demands.


Jim

As in the big hit, Auntie Mime with Rosalind Russell

Posted by: Miklos, vaguely at December 07, 2021 11:17 PM (QzkSJ)

279 274 I lazy snorkel. I don't dive or anything, I just float face down looking at cool stuff underwater while breathing through the thing. I'm from Kansas and there's only so much you can expect from me ocean-wise.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:16 PM
I did that one time without wearing a diveskin. Got my lilywhite ass cooked.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 11:17 PM (0OP+5)

280 Stationed on Oahu, crewed UH60s and got to see all the islands up close and personal. There are some incredible landscapes there. Better have lots of money, like most touristy places, if you want to get by OK. The military insulated me against the worst of it as food and housing etc was paid for.

Hanauma Bay is crowded, but it is famous for a reason. Great snorkeling.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2021 11:18 PM (n0Iwq)

281
I think any honest reading of the Constitution (which the 5th Circuit did a while back re the OSHA mandates) determines the federal govt. has no power to compel vaccination (save for maybe immigration laws and that sort of thing) of the populace.

As has been noted, state govts are another matter. There's been a lot of other, contrary court decisions (any honest reading of consistency and logic) since that smallpox case, so there is a question there.

We're probably going to end going down that road, I'm afraid and we'll find out what SCOTUS says.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 07, 2021 11:18 PM (Mzdiz)

282 The military insulated me against the worst of it as food and housing etc was paid for.
___

Yep.

Dad was stationed at Pearl, and I was stationed at Schofield.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:19 PM (rqQle)

283 243 248

Turkeys are actually quite smart. There is a rafter of turkeys up the road several miles. You'd think they'd be easy...not so much...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 11:19 PM (16EvI)

284 Love to nurse, Ladyl, Jim and all y'all!

Watching Gutfeld......

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 07, 2021 11:20 PM (/UQ/R)

285 [iAs in the big hit, Auntie Mime with Rosalind Russell
Posted by: Miklos, vaguely at December 07, 2021 11:17 PM (QzkSJ)

Back then, I'd have cast Carol Channing in the Auntie Mime role.

Now? I'd cast Fran Drescher.

Just think, and entire 2 hour film, and they'd have to SHUT UP the entire time!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 11:20 PM (QzJWU)

286 We're probably going to end going down that road, I'm afraid and we'll find out what SCOTUS says.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion

That would also depend on application of the Incorporation Doctrine, which SCOTUS has been moving toward.

Posted by: Miklos, less vaguely at December 07, 2021 11:20 PM (QzkSJ)

287 Doof, I'd love a copy of "Peace" but I don't have a CD player. Get with the times, I know.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 07, 2021 11:21 PM (KAi1n)

288 Pearl Harbor is indescribable.
You have to go there.


And listen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 11:21 PM (U2p+3)

289
Wild turkeys are indeed pretty smart. However, mass farm raised turkey breeds are pretty dumb from what they tell me -- like drown in the rain 'cause they keep looking up dumb.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 07, 2021 11:21 PM (Mzdiz)

290 There was a joke about the horror of being trapped in an elevator with Fran, Gilbert, and Bobcat all shrieking in terror.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Meatbag at December 07, 2021 11:21 PM (4I/2K)

291 The most interesting thing about the Billboard article was that a greatest hits collection issued in 1981 would be No. 23 for the year. I do think "rock" as we knew it is over and has become like jazz and blues, with modern recordings becoming aimed at a small interest group. I would venture to say "grunge" was the last new movement of it and when the vast majority of the movers of that wave quit functioning for a variety of reasons, there was never another wave and it has been a good 25 years now since then...

Posted by: Azjaeger at December 07, 2021 11:22 PM (3/XaG)

292 The FedGov case for vax mandates would probably have been a lot stronger if it was a clearly defined, well tested, one-and-done type deal. But they keep moving their own goalposts so much there's no consistency on what they actually legally expect citizens to do.

Which is why there's been so much pushback in the first place.

Posted by: CppThis at December 07, 2021 11:23 PM (UewuT)

293 wmds! Do kindly email me any info you've got so far towards this year's CO MoMeet? Might be a Road Trip Year and do the tour. Thanks!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 11:23 PM (QzJWU)

294 Growing up near Pearl was no different from growing up at any other military base.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:23 PM (rqQle)

295 A Pearl Harbor attack had been studied about for years prior to the actual attack. Papers had been written about it going back to 1938.
It was a sitting duck, especially when you gathered all the aircraft together in close confines to protect from sabotage, which was a local concern.
The word "surprise" was disinformation.
Any one with eyes could have predicted this attack, which was written about, in many papers, as a perfect attack on a Sunday morning.
This was written about in 1938.
No one expected the Japanese to actually do it, but they did.
Then they use the word "surprise" to exonerate themselves.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 11:24 PM (7NKxb)

296 I was on a six person banana tube in the Bahamas and of course they take great joy in knocking you off. I was the last one knocked off so the last one picked up. As I was treading water for five or so minutes all I could think about was SHARK !

Never been so glad to be back in the boat.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 11:24 PM (ykL1t)

297 Turkeys are actually quite smart.

If you marry the older, plumper turkeys, they are especially grateful, and very skilled in the arts of love,

Posted by: I'm Ben Franklin and I've Had Too Much Fucking Cider at December 07, 2021 11:24 PM (QU5/8)

298 But they keep moving their own goalposts so much there's no consistency on what they actually legally expect citizens to do.

I could explain it to you.

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at December 07, 2021 11:25 PM (kOpft)

299 261 262

I think I'd rather deal with a bear than a badger...them's some mean critters. And don't even ask about weasels...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 11:25 PM (16EvI)

300 Pity that the Navy can't even maintain their fleet anymore.

Rustbuckets galore. Pretty shameful, actually.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:26 PM (rqQle)

301 243 I'm convinced that deer are the retards of the animal kingdom.

*stares blankly*
Posted by: Turkey at December 07, 2021 11:03 PM (dHnbM)


I swear those bastards deliberately wander around in the road to hold up traffic.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 11:26 PM (+lVUW)

302 {{{WDS}}}

Dahlin!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 11:27 PM (TdMsT)

303 I listen to an active rock station sometimes at work, and they play new songs from time to time. The music is usually decent but the thing is, none of them ever stick around for very long...the 2010s' new artists and their singles just go in one side of the radio station hype machine, and go right back out the other side after a couple months of promo play.

Not rightly sure what the underlying cause is.

Posted by: CppThis at December 07, 2021 11:28 PM (UewuT)

304 ..I think I'd rather deal with a bear than a badger...them's some mean critters. And don't even ask about weasels.. Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 11:25 PM (16EvI)

Weasel can off you at better than a thousand yards, and not even break a sweat, tryin'. So, you really otter not put yourself in the Weasel Target Roster.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 11:28 PM (QzJWU)

305 297

I'm assuming Ben sobered up, and went for the eagle....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 11:28 PM (16EvI)

306 Doof, I'd love a copy of "Peace" but I don't have a CD player. Get with the times, I know.
Posted by: SFGoth

"Men may cry, Peace, Peace! But there is no peace"

Posted by: Patrick "Miklos" Henry at December 07, 2021 11:28 PM (QzkSJ)

307 Under that understanding, Congress could nominally tax you for not being vaxxed but not mandate a vax for you. Unclear about whether states could do the same as Jacobson predated right to privacy which includes the right to die.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 11:13 PM (9hXN1)

The idea that a nominal fine is in and of itself, not compulsion, is what the SCOTUS rests on in a great deal of these cases - they've even looked the other way on the 2nd amendment on this. Thus, I can see the current SCOTUS suggesting that a nominal fee for non-compliance as an 'emit ius' or a purchased right - even though that concept is unconstitutional in and of itself.

If not listed or specifically mentioned in the Constitution, then the States may institute such laws to govern their citizen - to allow the commerce clause to negate idividual or state rights by the SCOTUS (Wickert vs Filburn) is an unconstitutional means to get around this troublesome amendment.

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 11:29 PM (5iUNf)

308 >>I was on a six person banana tube in the Bahamas and of course they take great joy in knocking you off. I was the last one knocked off so the last one picked up. As I was treading water for five or so minutes all I could think about was SHARK !

>>Never been so glad to be back in the boat.

You have a better chance of being hit by a bolt of lightening than being bitten by a shark.

I taught scuba and snorkeling and did commercial diving in the Caribbean and was around sharks all the time. I'd feel safer doing a night dive in San Juan harbor than waking the streets of Old San Juan after dark.

Jaws ruined the ocean for a lot of people.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2021 11:29 PM (ZLI7S)

309 All this love flying around tonight. I may barf.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 07, 2021 11:29 PM (II3Gr)

310 If rock is dead and I'm not going to argue that it's not then what has replaced it? Does it have a name? Pop? Whatever is popular? I don't think there is a unifying style that has replaced it. No one stands out and industries just pop out $$$ maximizing sounds. And any idea or feeling you put in your music has to be an approved idea or feeling. Nothing worthwhile or memorable is going to come out of that.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:29 PM (a1pQd)

311 Fun fact: "Deer" used to be the Old English catch-all name for any four-legged animal.
In German, "animal" is still "das Tier".

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2021 11:30 PM (vuisn)

312 The James Madison should review this movie, oi!

Moon Zero Two
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Zero_Two

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2021 11:30 PM (Q/4Cu)

313 Marcel Marceau

In his final box

Posted by: Miklos, attempting to vocalize at December 07, 2021 11:13 PM (QzkSJ)

Yeah, he did the box routine. I was siting stage side no more than six feet from him, almost within reach...

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 11:31 PM (AmoqO)

314 Then they use the word "surprise" to exonerate themselves.

The Commander of the Fleet, Adm. Richardson, specifically predicted the Pearl Harbor attack.


FDR shitcanned him for that.

Posted by: Miklos, actual historian (really) at December 07, 2021 11:31 PM (QzkSJ)

315 Jim......last Saturday in April

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 07, 2021 11:31 PM (/UQ/R)

316 Jaws ruined the ocean for a lot of people.

Screw Spielberg.

Posted by: Green Lantern at December 07, 2021 11:32 PM (kOpft)

317 Yeah, he did the box routine. I was siting stage side no more than six feet from him, almost within reach...
Posted by: Javems

You could have SAVED HIM

Posted by: Miklos, rather quiet by nature at December 07, 2021 11:32 PM (QzkSJ)

318 WDS!

Whoohoo!

FUCK YOU!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 11:33 PM (U2p+3)

319 Jaws ruined the ocean for a lot of people.
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Not for me.

I loved swimming in the ocean.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:33 PM (rqQle)

320 All this love flying around tonight. I may barf.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racis


Somebody needs a hug.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 11:33 PM (r1z5A)

321 Pity that the Navy can't even maintain their fleet anymore.

Rustbuckets galore. Pretty shameful, actually.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:26 PM (rqQle)


{{{SMH}}}, they don't seem to be navigating them too well either!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 11:34 PM (hOUT3)

322 Or a lobotomy

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2021 11:34 PM (U2p+3)

323 The US Navy three, THREE, times launched an aerial surprise attack against Pearl Harbor in the 1930s.

However too many people thought Pearl Harbor, like Singapore, was a Gibraltar in the Pacific too tough to attack.

Plus their logic said the Dutch East Indies and the Philippines would be more likely.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2021 11:34 PM (Q/4Cu)

324 Ladyl........kisses to you! You didn't answer my text the other day? Miss you!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 07, 2021 11:34 PM (/UQ/R)

325 "Jaws" scared me to death but forced me to take a more interested view of sharks, fish and oceanography in general.
Of course, I was eight, so what the hell did I know.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2021 11:35 PM (vuisn)

326 I wonder how much we could've sped up development of the Bomb and the B-29 had we shifted resources from other endeavors. We lost so many lives of good/strong men whose progeny we would benefit from today.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 07, 2021 11:35 PM (KAi1n)

327 The book
Infamy, Pearl Harbor and it's Aftermath
John Toland

This book describes how the Pearl Harbor attack was planned, war gamed, written about in detail as far back as 1938.
Planned and war gamed by both sides.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 07, 2021 11:36 PM (7NKxb)

328 Hey Hrothgar.

Sad to say, but it's only going to get worse.

God help us if we get into a shooting war with China or Russia.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:36 PM (rqQle)

329 >>Not for me.

>>I loved swimming in the ocean.

Me too. Still do. It's where I feel the best.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2021 11:36 PM (ZLI7S)

330 Fellows, let's be reasonable, huh? This is not the time or the place to perform some kind of a half-assed autopsy on a fish... And I'm not going to stand here and see that thing cut open and see that little Kintner boy spill out all over the dock.

Posted by: Mayor Vaughn at December 07, 2021 11:36 PM (4I/2K)

331 Me too. Still do. It's where I feel the best.
Posted by: JackStraw
___

Living in the midwest, my swimming in the ocean days are over.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:37 PM (rqQle)

332 310 No one stands out and industries just pop out $$$ maximizing sounds. And any idea or feeling you put in your music has to be an approved idea or feeling. Nothing worthwhile or memorable is going to come out of that.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:29 PM (a1pQd)


You might be on to something there. I did mention having heard a number of new singles, but I struggle to recall any of the ones that have fallen off the radar beyond that they tended to be either generic bitchy millennial nonsense or a failed-relationship song from someone who clearly read about the subject on the internet.

Posted by: CppThis at December 07, 2021 11:37 PM (UewuT)

333 Carol Channing would have been fine. Didn't she do it on Broadway?

Fran Drescher, just no.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 11:37 PM (iam1O)

334 304 Jim
I had a rescue pit bull who actually could take down weasels. It was quite amazing.
I picked up one of the unfortunate critters to check it out. Crazy teeth.
I sure wouldn't want to tangle with one, nor would my chickens!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 11:38 PM (16EvI)

335 274 I lazy snorkel. I don't dive or anything, I just float face down looking at cool stuff underwater while breathing through the thing. I'm from Kansas and there's only so much you can expect from me ocean-wise.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:16 PM (a1pQd)


That was how I did it.i'm not a particularly strong swimmer. I went on 4 cruises and snorkeling was the main reason I went. One time I did something called Snuba or Skorkel where your snorkel was attached to a 20 foot hose that went to an air tank that floated on the water. You could go down twenty feet and breathe just like with a snorkel. There had been a 30 minute lesson before they took you out. It was easy and you could see things like seahorses, urchins, and starfish that were on the bottom.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 11:38 PM (+lVUW)

336 Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

Posted by: Quint at December 07, 2021 11:38 PM (4I/2K)

337 324 Ladyl........kisses to you! You didn't answer my text the other day? Miss you!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 07, 2021 11:34 PM (/UQ/R)


Good grief--I don't think I saw it.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2021 11:38 PM (TdMsT)

338
My Uncle John

https://tinyurl.com/yc8raek2
Posted by: Miklos, Holder of Ancient Obligations at December 07, 2021 10:40 PM (QzkSJ)

Miklos, your uncle was incredible

Posted by: LASue at December 07, 2021 11:38 PM (Ed8Zd)

339 >>>Living in the midwest, my swimming in the ocean days are over.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:37 PM (rqQle)
------------

GA bound?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 11:39 PM (iam1O)

340 nurse......

FUCK YOU!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 07, 2021 11:40 PM (/UQ/R)

341 Saw "Jaws" in France. "Les Dents de la Mare" Scary even in French.

Posted by: Javems at December 07, 2021 11:40 PM (AmoqO)

342
Moon Zero Two

That was the first MST3K I ever saw.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2021 11:40 PM (63Dwl)

343 God help us if we get into a shooting war with China or Russia.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:36 PM (rqQle)


We won't be able to return fire or engage in "dangerous" activities until the JAG officers finish writing the RoE!
That's what is so scary!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 11:40 PM (hOUT3)

344 Speaking of Jaws, "The Chief Brody _____ Slap" is a classic Gutfield column from 2005.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9x78jc

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2021 11:41 PM (vuisn)

345 Never, EVER, get stoned and then watch a documentary about the USS Indianapolis. Utterly terrifying.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 07, 2021 11:41 PM (KAi1n)

346 We won't be able to return fire or engage in "dangerous" activities until the JAG officers finish writing the RoE!
___

Gotta love lawyers.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:41 PM (rqQle)

347 There was a joke about the horror of being trapped in an elevator with Fran, Gilbert, and Bobcat all shrieking in terror.
Posted by: Count de Monet

Can't this thing get to hell any faster?!?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at December 07, 2021 11:42 PM (5G5QC)

348 346 We won't be able to return fire or engage in "dangerous" activities until the JAG officers finish writing the RoE!
___

Gotta love lawyers.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:41 PM (rqQle)

Right?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 07, 2021 11:42 PM (II3Gr)

349 >>Living in the midwest, my swimming in the ocean days are over.

Don't say that. Maybe that's exactly what you should do.

If you ever get out this way you have a place to stay.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2021 11:42 PM (ZLI7S)

350 I put getting attacked by a shark or any water creature on the top of do not want list years before Jaws came out .

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 11:42 PM (ykL1t)

351 lol Insom.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:42 PM (rqQle)

352 Jim..last Saturday in April. Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 07, 2021 11:31 PM (/UQ/R)

My birfday month. I'll try to be good, till then. *cough*


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 11:43 PM (QzJWU)

353
I just got RFK, Jr's new book "The Real Anthony Fauci" yesterday. I can highly recommend it. You can open the book at random and find pages and pages of endnotes after each chapter.

At the beginning, he dedicates the book to a long list of scientists and physicians who helped him. Robert Malone and Vanden Bossche are #2 and #3 on that list, behind Dr. Harvey Risch.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 07, 2021 11:44 PM (Mzdiz)

354 343 God help us if we get into a shooting war with China or Russia.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:36 PM (rqQle)

We won't be able to return fire or engage in "dangerous" activities until the JAG officers finish writing the RoE!
That's what is so scary!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 11:40 PM (hOUT3)
------------------------------

If we get into a shooting war with one of the big guys priorities and authorities will change quick.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 11:44 PM (iam1O)

355 Oh I'll never get to Hawaii. I'll be lucky to get out of my own state.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB



You might enjoy other people's travels though ...
https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=7K0k6W2jKXc

: -)))

Posted by: Adriane the Technically Insufficient Critic ... at December 07, 2021 11:44 PM (okV1R)

356 Gotta love lawyers.
Posted by: SMH

I used to joke about Combat JAG. That was while I was still in, before GW2, A-stan, and the nonsense that our Gubmint put our military through. I'm glad I served, I met a lot of good people, and even enjoyed it most of the time (+ I looked spiffy in summer weight BDUs), but I'm also glad I got out without any negative consequences.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 07, 2021 11:45 PM (KAi1n)

357 Except Toland got things wrong.

Radio operator on the liner Lurline named Grogan claimed to hear Japanese broadcasts from Japan repeated by ships north of the liner.

Except the Japanese strike force operated under strict radio silence. Japanese Third Battleship Division's diary noted - "The absolute radio silence of the Task Force did not leak anything." The transmit keys for the radios were even removed from the bombers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2021 11:45 PM (Q/4Cu)

358 "Maybe I'm first - just hoping I'm in before that Hrothgar guy."

Everyone that punches reload numerous times in order to be "First" must report to the Bureau of Energy immediately or be subject to immediate punishment for wasting energy (if you report, you get milder punishment).

Also, all nonconforming comments are being monitored, so be careful to only comment as it pleases the "Greater Good". Thank you for your compliance. ...

A Public Service Announcement from the Biden/DeepState Junta.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (Cus5s)

359 If we get into a shooting war with one of the big guys priorities and authorities will change quick.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 11:44 PM (iam1O)


That's what they want you to think!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (hOUT3)

360 https://tinyurl.com/yc8raek2
Posted by: Miklos, Holder of Ancient Obligations at December 07, 2021 10:40 PM (QzkSJ)

Miklos, your uncle was incredible
Posted by: LASue

And one of the nicest, most fun guys ever.

Got my first sip of bourbon from him.

Posted by: Miklos at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (QzkSJ)

361 Don't say that. Maybe that's exactly what you should do.
___

Being poor puts a limit on what one can and cannot do.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (rqQle)

362 Anyone here familiar with a guy named David Icke?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (KAi1n)

363 >>> One time I did something called Snuba or Skorkel where your snorkel was attached to a 20 foot hose that went to an air tank that floated on the water. You could go down twenty feet and breathe just like with a snorkel. There had been a 30 minute lesson before they took you out. It was easy and you could see things like seahorses, urchins, and starfish that were on the bottom.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2021 11:38 PM (+lVUW)


That sounds cool. The only option I've seen are these diving suits, really miniature diving bells that are over your upper half and have windows in the helmet to look out. Those excursions are always way more expensive and look too complex to have fun. But just you floating is real peaceful and relaxing though. I could probably sleep that way. I can see the coral and spidery things walking around on the bottom but it would be nice to get closer.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (a1pQd)

364 That's what they want you to think!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

We

Not "they"

Posted by: We are the They at December 07, 2021 11:47 PM (QzkSJ)

365 Also, all nonconforming comments are being monitored, so be careful to only comment as it pleases the "Greater Good". Thank you for your compliance. ...

A Public Service Announcement from the Biden/DeepState Junta.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (Cus5s)


So I am in perfect compliance with these directives, but you should really check out that Doof guy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 11:48 PM (hOUT3)

366 I'm also glad I got out without any negative consequences.
Posted by: SFGoth
___

Lucky you.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:48 PM (rqQle)

367 >>> Anyone here familiar with a guy named David Icke?
Posted by: SFGoth at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (KAi1n)


I thought I was bit I looked up the name and that's not who I was thinking of.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 07, 2021 11:49 PM (a1pQd)

368 >> Anyone here familiar with a guy named David Icke?

He was big in the Art Bell/Coast-to-Coast things -- reptilian aliens in human form, IIRC was his main thing.

Now, of course, with what's happening, I'm not going to laugh so much. I mean seriously, look at Zuckerburg. I'm sure he's got slitted eyes behind contacts.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 07, 2021 11:49 PM (Mzdiz)

369 I have to clarify it's the treading water that is most freaky to me. Where you can't see what might be lurking somewhere near you and your feet going back and forth look like bait.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 11:49 PM (ykL1t)

370 I got out without any negative consequences.
Posted by: SFGoth

Other than that perpetual itch.

Which must be scratched.

Posted by: JAG-off Miss Lindsey, with a hearty HI Sailor! from JAG-off David French at December 07, 2021 11:49 PM (QzkSJ)

371 ..I had a rescue pit bull who actually could take down weasels. It was quite amazing. I picked up one of the unfortunate critters to check it out. Crazy teeth. I sure wouldn't want to tangle with one, nor would my chickens!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2021 11:38 PM (16EvI)


And people own and keep ferrets, which are but a Pocket Weasel, shrink-wrapped down to Fun Size Weasel. Same dentition, but (usually) a calmer demeanor.

Snub nose .38 still packs a punch though, IYKWIM.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 07, 2021 11:50 PM (QzJWU)

372 >> I put getting attacked by a shark or any water creature on the top of do not want list years before Jaws came out .

Not exactly on the top of my to do list but I've spent a fair amount of my life on, in and under the water and been around a lot sea creatures with sharp teeth and the truth is 99% of the time they want nothing to do with us.

I'm not kidding when I say I would rather do a night dive in San Juan Harbor that is full of sharks thanks to all the fishing boats cleaning their catch and dumping the unwanted parts overboard than I would want to be walking in Chicago or NYC or Baltimore or any other America big city after dark. Sharks and other sea creatures are pretty predictable. Humans not so much.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2021 11:51 PM (ZLI7S)

373 The Fallen Ones: The TRUE STORY of Satan And Fallen Angels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsD3GESjnRY

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:51 PM (rqQle)

374 >>>That's what they want you to think!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 11:46 PM (hOUT3)
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I really believe that if we're put up against the wall cogent Military and Politicos will come together and take over until the job is done.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 11:51 PM (iam1O)

375 Sharks and other sea creatures are pretty predictable. Humans not so much.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2021 11:51 PM (ZLI7S)
___

This is true.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:51 PM (rqQle)

376 Too much work but. The person who was first the most times during the last year is named....and taken out back of the ONT and beaten severely.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 11:51 PM (r1z5A)

377 I mean seriously, look at Zuckerburg. I'm sure he's got slitted eyes behind contacts.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion

The Google Glass concept was done without proper consultation.

Posted by: Welome your new Zucktilian Overlords at December 07, 2021 11:53 PM (QzkSJ)

378 I used to go shark fishing when I was young, so the sharks have probably put out a hit on me. Best I avoid swimming too far from shore, yeah?

Posted by: CppThis at December 07, 2021 11:53 PM (UewuT)

379 Sharks and other sea creatures are pretty predictable. Humans not so much.
Posted by: JackStraw

I knew you were going to say that.

Posted by: Miklos, with The Gift at December 07, 2021 11:54 PM (QzkSJ)

380 I really believe that if we're put up against the wall cogent Military and Politicos will come together and take over until the job is done.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 11:51 PM (iam1O)


Funny, once upon a time, I felt that way myself. Honest politicians no longer get elected/re-elected, and honorable military get sidelined.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 07, 2021 11:54 PM (hOUT3)

381 @323 The US Navy three, THREE, times launched an aerial surprise attack against Pearl Harbor in the 1930s.

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The reason for the blindness on the US side wasn't tactical. It was logistics. Pulling off the raid required not being detected, which is why the IJN went via the Aleutians. But it also required logistics that the US just didn't think the IJN could pull off. As far as the US was concerned, the IJN might as well have been aiming for the West Coast. Both were believed to be out of reach.

As it turned out, the Americans were wrong about the Japanese being able to reach Hawaii. But from what I understand, the Japanese even being able to get their ships in range of the harbor was a very near thing, and was at pretty much the utmost limits of their capabilities.

Posted by: junior at December 07, 2021 11:55 PM (PTw5h)

382 Weasels will rip your flesh.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2021 11:55 PM (63Dwl)

383 >>I knew you were going to say that.

You, on the other hand, are very predictably quick and funny.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2021 11:55 PM (ZLI7S)

384 Toland's 'Seaman Z' was identified in 1983 as Robert D. Ogg. When interviewed by Cmdr I.G. Newman, USN Ogg had this to say about Toland's claim he thought the radio signals were the missing Japanese carriers -

"I never made such a mention to Hosmer [Toland spelled it Hosner] whatsoever. I just knew there were some form of Jap transmission that was on these odd frequencies in that area East of the International Date Line. Certainly no reference that it was a carrier force rather than it was a fishing force."

pg 57-58. Pearl Harbor: The Verdict of History. Gordon Prange, Donald M. Goldstein, and Katherine Dillon. Penguin Books. 1991.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2021 11:56 PM (Q/4Cu)

385 333 Carol Channing would have been fine. Didn't she do it on Broadway?

Fran Drescher, just no.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 11:37 PM (iam1O)

Angela Lansbury originally

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 07, 2021 11:57 PM (BgMrQ)

386 I still water skied in gator infested rivers in Louisiana. I made sure I stayed away from the undeveloped swampy shores but still was uneasy waiting to get picked up in the middle of the river.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 07, 2021 11:57 PM (ykL1t)

387 If we get into a breakup or civil war situation I predict the military will be too paralyzed by its own internal strife to actively support any of the warring factions. Some low level soldiers might desert their posts but the strategic command infrastructure will hide in its bunkers and bury the loyal troops in a blizzard of contradictory orders.

Posted by: CppThis at December 07, 2021 11:58 PM (UewuT)

388 Weasels will rip your flesh.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

*strokes soul patch, considers*

Posted by: Miklos, humming Catholic Girls at December 07, 2021 11:58 PM (QzkSJ)

389 "...anyway, we delivered the bomb."

Fucking floored how he ended that monologue, flippant. He was a ruined man already, he might as well full-on after a shark he might not catch. I would quicker compare him to Frodo than Ahab. Frodo was wounded too much, had all the adventure beat out him.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2021 11:58 PM (ybIRR)

390 I still water skied in gator infested rivers in Louisiana. I made sure I stayed away from the undeveloped swampy shores but still was uneasy waiting to get picked up in the middle of the river.
Posted by: Just a side note


I never in my life thought about water skiing and alligators...now I have. I will never water ski in the south.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2021 11:59 PM (r1z5A)

391 >God help us if we get into a shooting war with China or Russia.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at December 07, 2021 11:36 PM (rqQle)

I just got done watching Tucker's nightly monologue on YouTube and he was showing how a bunch of GOP stooges in Congress are beating the war drums, right along side Biden, for us to fight Russia in Ukraine. This gives me a very bad feeling. Whenever Congress finds a "bipartisan" spirit to do something, we're fucked. Starting to remind me of the run-up to the last few adventures in the Middle East.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 12:00 AM (cSs/W)

392 "So I am in perfect compliance with these directives, but you should really check out that Doof guy!" Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

"You have received 1000 social credits for your information, thank you for your allegiance to the Greater Good. So mote it be" All hail The Biden Junta

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2021 12:00 AM (Cus5s)

393 My brother watched part of a documentary on Pearl Harbor with my Mom today. She remembered her family being scared. They had relatives in Hawaii. My grandmother's sister was teaching in Honolulu. Saw the first planes come in through the window over the sink while she was doing dishes. Watched the entire attack from her kitchen.

Posted by: KT at December 08, 2021 12:00 AM (0ghg2)

394 One night my university held special showings of Jaws on the big screen. So the next day, I opened the door to my dorm room, put a CD in the player, and cranked up the volume on the Jaws theme.

One of my neighbors was at my door less than thirty seconds later.


Posted by: junior at December 08, 2021 12:00 AM (PTw5h)

395 371 Jim
Ya know, I actually had a couple of female ferrets. One was a sweet girl, the other a terror from hell.
Looking back, I don't think these critters should be raised as pets. They are high maintenance, and very prone to cancer.
People should really think a lot before taking in a pet.
Rescue a doggeh or kittah...way more reciprocal love

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 12:03 AM (16EvI)

396 >>>Watched the entire attack from her kitchen.

Posted by: KT at December
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Mercy

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 12:03 AM (iam1O)

397 Ukraine pisses me off. At no point has anyone offered a cogent strategic or geopolitical reason for the USA tweaking Russia's tit over something that's ultimately an EU problem (since Merkel made this mess in the first place).

Posted by: CppThis at December 08, 2021 12:03 AM (UewuT)

398 The scene in The Secret Life of Walter Mitty where Ben Stiller jumped in the shark infested ocean was both beautiful cinematography and terrifying.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:04 AM (ykL1t)

399 I still water skied in gator infested rivers in Louisiana. I made sure I stayed away from the undeveloped swampy shores but still was uneasy waiting to get picked up in the middle of the river.
Posted by: Just a side note at D

Just, por que? We have lakes.
I would never get in the water with gators. I have swam in the ocean in known great white hunting grounds but I'm older and wiser now. I'm not swimming at surf beach or Jalama anymore.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:04 AM (6z9vr)

400 382

This is true.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 12:05 AM (16EvI)

401 I'd rather liberate Australia than Ukraine.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 08, 2021 12:05 AM (ybIRR)

402 So Beetlejuice is blaming the retailers for the smash and grabs? Wtf!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 08, 2021 12:05 AM (/UQ/R)

403 I used to joke about Combat JAG. That was while I was still in, before GW2, A-stan, and the nonsense that our Gubmint put our military through. I'm glad I served, I met a lot of good people, and even enjoyed it most of the time (+ I looked spiffy in summer weight BDUs), but I'm also glad I got out without any negative consequences.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 07, 2021 11:45 PM (KAi1n)


Never heard of ROI while I was in theater. We were pretty separate from U.S. conventional forces any way, embedded with indigenous forces. Advisors.

Posted by: Javems at December 08, 2021 12:05 AM (AmoqO)

404
Whenever Congress finds a "bipartisan" spirit to do something, we're fucked.

That's when they "get things done."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2021 12:06 AM (63Dwl)

405 Billy Jeff conned them into giving up their nukes.
We owe them a boat load of weapons.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 12:06 AM (iam1O)

406 Ukraine pisses me off. At no point has anyone offered a cogent strategic or geopolitical reason for the USA tweaking Russia's tit over something that's ultimately an EU problem (since Merkel made this mess in the first place).
Posted by: CppThis


I so wish we still had President Trump.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 08, 2021 12:07 AM (r1z5A)

407 Australia is easier to defend plus get two armies a turn

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:07 AM (Q/4Cu)

408 "I still water skied in gator infested rivers in Louisiana."

an old roommate of mine from Thibodaux said she used to swim in the bayou where there were "known" alligators ... it does seem wild creatures sometimes become moderately tame with certain humans, though that still seems crazy, to put life at risk.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2021 12:08 AM (Cus5s)

409 I mean, at least with the sandbox misadventures we had Islamic terrorists blowing shit up in the US and elsewhere and the very real threat of the Iraq-Iran-Saudi hate triangle burning off half the world's oil supply for the lulz. All I'm getting about the present situation is some static from old ass boomers who never outgrew the Cold War. Come On Man, there's precious little evidence that the post-Soviet oligarchy cares about much beyond making money and having warm water ports. Mess around with the said ports and what did people think was gonna happen?

Posted by: CppThis at December 08, 2021 12:08 AM (UewuT)

410 My sister-in-law had a teacher, her mother's cousin, who recounted to a respectful class his experiences as a heavy bomber pilot on Hickam Field. Japanese Zeros strafed planes before they could be scrambled out. He lost friends. They strafed the base, with many casualties, and strafed military housing.

He couldn't find his wife until after nightfall. She miscarried.

My SIL wrote a poem and kept her teacher's account.

Posted by: KT at December 08, 2021 12:09 AM (0ghg2)

411 Some rat....me too! Hope you are well!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 08, 2021 12:09 AM (/UQ/R)

412 "Turkeys are actually quite smart."

In 2nd grade, I wrote a story about a turkey who was going to be butchered for Thanksgiving by the big, bad men, so he his under the bed. They couldn't find him so they had ham instead. My mother *loved* it and I think still has it.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 12:09 AM (KAi1n)

413 The Ukraine screwed themselves because their hatred of Russia is so bad it makes them rage retarded. They've shot themselves in the foot a number of times because of it. Their internal corruption doesn't help.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:09 AM (ykL1t)

414 I'd rather liberate Australia than Ukraine.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

This man has played Risk.

Posted by: Miklos, Strategic Thinker at December 08, 2021 12:09 AM (QzkSJ)

415 I still water skied in gator infested rivers in Louisiana. I made sure I stayed away from the undeveloped swampy shores but still was uneasy waiting to get picked up in the middle of the river.
Posted by: Just a side note

My wife water skied in the Warri River in Nigeria. They had crocodiles there. She was good though. Skied across Lake Pontchartrain from N.O, to the north shore, 23 miles, non stop.

Posted by: Javems at December 08, 2021 12:10 AM (AmoqO)

416 PACAF HQ which was the Hickham Hilton on 7 Dec 1941 still has pock marks where Japanese bullets struck.

And there are markers on base saying 'This is where a Japanese plane crashed on 7 Dec 1941'

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:10 AM (Q/4Cu)

417 {{{westminsterdogshow}}} Very! I hope your lovely self is the same!

Posted by: Some Rat at December 08, 2021 12:11 AM (r1z5A)

418

I wonder if Brandon shit his pants with Putin. I mean, I can see Putin struggling to act serious and keep from laughing out loud at the incontinent dementia patient leading the US.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2021 12:12 AM (Mzdiz)

419 413 The Ukraine screwed themselves because their hatred of Russia is so bad it makes them rage retarded. They've shot themselves in the foot a number of times because of it. Their internal corruption doesn't help.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:09 AM (ykL1t)


Well, the Ukrainians do have a legitimate beef. But it's not our sphere of influence, and never was unless one counts the aforementioned graft. And so I think we both know the real reasons why this is becoming a major flashpoint...

Posted by: CppThis at December 08, 2021 12:12 AM (UewuT)

420 Crazy Ukrainians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB-nXQc6LMU

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 12:13 AM (iam1O)

421 412 "Turkeys are actually quite smart."

In 2nd grade, I wrote a story about a turkey who was going to be butchered for Thanksgiving by the big, bad men, so he his under the bed. They couldn't find him so they had ham instead. My mother *loved* it and I think still has it.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 12:09 AM (KAi1n)

That's so sweet. My friend just told me her daughter was driving over the pass before thanksgiving to catch a flight in Goleta and she hit a turkey. It messed up her car something awful. She called her insurance co and they didn't believe her. They kept asking, how do you hit a frozen turkey? Totally true story. At least she didnt hit a bear.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:14 AM (6z9vr)

422 >Ukraine pisses me off. At no point has anyone offered a cogent strategic or geopolitical reason for the USA tweaking Russia's tit over something that's ultimately an EU problem (since Merkel made this mess in the first place).
Posted by: CppThis at December 08, 2021 12:03 AM (UewuT)

That was exactly Tucker's point, and he's not wrong. We have zero national interest there.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 12:14 AM (cSs/W)

423 "At no point has anyone offered a cogent strategic or geopolitical reason for the USA tweaking Russia's tit over something that's ultimately an EU problem (since Merkel made this mess in the first place)."

there may be some strategy, but Hillary selling our hypersonic tech to Russia (Skolkovo) and Biden selling out USA via his deals, and Merkel buying Russian NGas from Russian hidden via Ukraine (?) ... so many dirty deals that mostly circumvented US/NATO interests ... that is the undoing of NATO and "The West". ...

Israel and others also make deals with Russia, it is very complicated, above my pay grade. USA probably needs new alliances, Russia might be included -- to fight China.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2021 12:15 AM (Cus5s)

424 Posted by: Javems at December 08, 2021 12:10 AM (AmoqO

That's impressive to say the least.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:15 AM (ykL1t)

425 We have zero national interest there.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 12:14 AM (cSs/W)
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Clinton made them give up their nukes.

We owe them much weaponry.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 12:15 AM (iam1O)

426 I have a Ukranian Deal to put to Putin.

He gets the warm water port. No quarrel.

We keep the Hot Ukranian Strategic Wimmens Reserve. No questions.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2021 12:15 AM (QzJWU)

427 He couldn't find his wife until after nightfall. She miscarried.

My SIL wrote a poem and kept her teacher's account.
Posted by: KT at December 08, 2021 12:09 AM (0ghg2)

Oh KT, that's awful. I have no words.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:15 AM (6z9vr)

428 Ukrainian turkeys are stupid AND full of rage.

Posted by: JuJuBee at December 08, 2021 12:16 AM (mNhhD)

429 I so wish we still had President Trump.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 08, 2021 12:07 AM (r1z5A)

I don't think we would be in this predicament were he still President.

Posted by: Javems at December 08, 2021 12:17 AM (AmoqO)

430 one reason why rock may be dying is that it's like a Marvel movie.

You could either take the time to write an actual script and make sense while having actual plot points. Or you could just jot out a first draft fuck-it-fix-it-post deal and blow $150M on ugly CGI girlboss fights.

The same thing with music, just fucking autotune some whore or some kid...why bother rewarding people who actually played their instruments and toured the hard way up.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 08, 2021 12:17 AM (ZZK0E)

431 429 I so wish we still had President Trump.

Posted by: Some Rat

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I wish we still had America.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 08, 2021 12:17 AM (ZZK0E)

432 I don't think we would be in this predicament were he still President.
Posted by: Javems


Precisely.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 08, 2021 12:18 AM (r1z5A)

433 Biden has done everything possible to destabilize the world.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 12:18 AM (iam1O)

434 All I have for Dec 7th is my FIL flew in the movie Tora Tora Tora. He was the pilot that landed on the Jap aircraft carrier. He was flying a Jap Kate. I think it was a touch and go? I'd have to find the letter he wrote me about it.

I originally thought he flew the zero but it was a kate.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:19 AM (6z9vr)

435 Posted by: CppThis at December 08, 2021 12:12 AM (UewuT)

I don't disagree with you at all. I was sort of referring to them choosing a coup instead of having new elections as proposed , monitored by the USA. They immediately outlawed anyone speaking Russian which led to Russia taking Crimea where the majority spoke Russian.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:20 AM (ykL1t)

436
Biden hasn't done anything but shit his pants and eat ice cream, and terrorize little girls. The oligarchy who controls him is the one doing all the destabilizing.

And it's all on purpose.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2021 12:20 AM (Mzdiz)

437 I wish we still had America.
Posted by: Tim Riggins


Amazing how fast the vultures were on that as soon as he was cheated.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 08, 2021 12:20 AM (r1z5A)

438 The hate of course goes back to Stalin starving five million of them to death.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:21 AM (ykL1t)

439 If I was looking sharp in my uniform and beret, and said "here's some weapons, follow me if you want to kill commies" would I get more Ukrainians or more Australians? If Australia is just the island of lotus-eaters, then they're kind of effed.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 08, 2021 12:21 AM (ybIRR)

440 USS Yorktown CV-10 was used in Tora! Tora! Tora! for the Japanese carrier.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:21 AM (Q/4Cu)

441 They immediately outlawed anyone speaking Russian which led to Russia taking Crimea where the majority spoke Russian.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:20 AM (ykL1t)
-=-----------

It was colorful.



Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 12:21 AM (iam1O)

442 Why TF does the US have to be involved in every damn conflict or skirmish in the world? When you look at it, isn't our military supposed to defend OUR shores and borders?
Ukraine. WTF do we have to be THERE?!
I guess I'm missing something, but damn.
Those dems sure do like their wars...
How many conflicts did Trump need to stir up?

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 12:21 AM (16EvI)

443 Is now for Slav National Dancings


https://tinyurl.com/5aw34zv4

Posted by: Miklos, on behalf of A Special SMR-Uncle at December 08, 2021 12:22 AM (QzkSJ)

444 373 The Fallen Ones: The TRUE STORY of Satan And Fallen Angels

First read that as "Santa and fallen angels."

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 12:24 AM (II3Gr)

445 We keep the Hot Ukranian Strategic Wimmens Reserve. No questions.


Jim

I volunteer to do inventory

Posted by: Miklos Mikloskeevich at December 08, 2021 12:24 AM (QzkSJ)

446 First read that as "Santa and fallen angels."

So you saying Santa has been naughty? Oh my~!

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:24 AM (Q/4Cu)

447 >Clinton made them give up their nukes.

We owe them much weaponry.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2021 12:15 AM (iam1O)

They were dumb enough to trust Slick Willy and that's our fault decades later how? Who doesn't know that the USA is the most backstabbing ally in the world? We don't owe them our treasure, and we certainly don't owe them the blood of our soldiers. You really want to go toe to toe with the Rooskies over Clinton's duplicity?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 12:25 AM (cSs/W)

448 I don't know if anyone is interested but this is what my FIL wrote when I asked him about Tora Tora Tora.

Did the only carrier landing that appears in the movie in K-318. It was only a touch and go not an arrested landing as the Navy would not allow that.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:26 AM (6z9vr)

449 That warm water port can be bottled up by mining the Straits of Bosporus.

It's more of a pissing contest.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2021 12:26 AM (U0p6D)

450 So you saying Santa has been naughty? Oh my~!
Posted by: Anna Puma

You are apparently unaware of Santa's infamous "Donner und Blitzen" order

Posted by: Disgruntled elf Miklos at December 08, 2021 12:26 AM (QzkSJ)

451 421

Lots of LOL!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 12:26 AM (16EvI)

452 First read that as "Santa and fallen angels."

So you saying Santa has been naughty? Oh my~!
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:24 AM (Q/4Cu)

OT except you mentioned Santa. I was wondering when a commercial would make Santa a black guy. Commercial for Oreos was the winner.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:28 AM (ykL1t)

453 428

Don't tell Miklos !

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 12:28 AM (16EvI)

454 So a Ballroom Blitzen?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:29 AM (Q/4Cu)

455 CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:19 AM

What an interesting story about the movie.

The actual event was full of anguish for a lot of people. Also read an account by a Japanese-American woman living in Honolulu whose family burned all evidence of any connection to Japan. They felt, for a time, like they could face threats from either side.

Posted by: KT at December 08, 2021 12:29 AM (0ghg2)

456 I wish we still had America.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 08, 2021 12:17 AM (ZZK0E)

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Rome had an 1100 year run, and that's not counting the Byzantine part of it.

We'll be lucky to make 300.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2021 12:30 AM (VxC1e)

457 OT except you mentioned Santa. I was wondering when a commercial would make Santa a black guy. Commercial for Oreos was the winner.
Posted by: Just a side note

Red on the outside, white on the inside?

How does that even work?

Posted by: Miklos, Millennial (millenium unspecified) at December 08, 2021 12:30 AM (QzkSJ)

458 440 USS Yorktown CV-10 was used in Tora! Tora! Tora! for the Japanese carrier.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:21 AM (Q/4Cu)

My FIL was the squadron commander during the filming. He decided he was going to fly in the movie. I have an article that was written about the movie that he sent me but I don't know where I put it. Here is the whole email he sent me. He's like 91 and a tough an impressive man.

, I only flew in the carrier scenes and formation shots. I have a couple page write up which I am putting the mail to you and it tells the story or at least my involvement. Side numbers on the Kate I flew are 314 316, 317 and 318. Did the only carrier landing that appears in the movie in K-318. It was only a touch and go not an arrested landing as the Navy would not allow that.

Stuff is in the mail, Love

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:31 AM (6z9vr)

459 Rome had an 1100 year run, and that's not counting the Byzantine part of it.

We'll be lucky to make 300.
Posted by: Cicero

The Byzantine part was...complicated.

Posted by: Miklos, recalling Vasiliev's History of the Byzantine Empire (three volumes) at December 08, 2021 12:32 AM (QzkSJ)

460 an old roommate of mine from Thibodaux said she used to swim in the bayou where there were "known" alligators ... it does seem wild creatures sometimes become moderately tame with certain humans, though that still seems crazy, to put life at risk. Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2021 12:08 AM (Cus5s)

It would be too hard to find it and too late at night, but a few years ago there was a genius from Michigan who visited Beaumont/Port Arthur, Texas, and dove off a pier that had a big sign that said Danger Alligators. It was his last act.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 08, 2021 12:33 AM (BMmaB)

461 Evening.

Just finished watching Ford Vs. Ferrari.

Holy shit, that was great! Loved it. There's something just inspiring about stories involving racing and the giants of the auto industry. So bad ass.

It's late. I must be up early. Stay free and keep the faith.

Night!

Posted by: Robert at December 08, 2021 12:33 AM (1Yy3c)

462 They know now they can print blank ballots and deliver them in the wee hours after they have the election day count in sufficient numbers to win

Nothing has been done yet to stop them.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2021 12:33 AM (U0p6D)

463 "I don't think we would be in this predicament were he still President"

China and some oligarchs arranged the election theft, but certainly many insiders (FBI/CIA/DeepState) were complicit ... they all supported the current overthrow of Free America ... so what is REALLY going on?

imo it is the Globalists running the NWO show, not just China bribing much of our government, and much of BigCorp. Australia for instance has gone full blown globalist/totalitarian, but are at the same time starting to resist China. ... imo China versus (Free) America is the way DeepState globalists get their enemies to fight each other, as they conquer.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2021 12:33 AM (Cus5s)

464 So a Ballroom Blitzen?
Posted by: Anna Puma

A Very Ramones Christmas

Posted by: Miklos, pogo-ing in chair at December 08, 2021 12:34 AM (QzkSJ)

465 373 The Fallen Ones: The TRUE STORY of Satan And Fallen Angels

First read that as "Santa and fallen angels."
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 08, 2021 12:24 AM (II3Gr)

Santa wears red for a reason.

Seriously this time...Night!

Posted by: Robert at December 08, 2021 12:34 AM (1Yy3c)

466 When you take Australia all your extra armies you get for that have to go to defending it.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2021 12:35 AM (U0p6D)

467 The actual event was full of anguish for a lot of people. Also read an account by a Japanese-American woman living in Honolulu whose family burned all evidence of any connection to Japan. They felt, for a time, like they could face threats from either side.
Posted by: KT at Dece

It was a very traumatic time. I am friends with farmers families that were put in an internment camp. They all had their land returned after the war. The white farmers took care of their ranches and returned them to the Japanese families when they returned. The grandchildren and great grandchildren are running the farms to this day. They are patriotic Americans and I don't know what to say about it. I couldn't imagine what they went through.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:37 AM (6z9vr)

468 First read that as "Santa and fallen angels."
Posted by: Insomniac

Darleen, Marleen, and Charleen take Great Pride in their Waffle House Christmas Show and Review

Posted by: Miklos, proud of them girls too at December 08, 2021 12:37 AM (QzkSJ)

469 Speaking of Ukraine, we need to get the hell out of NATO. We should have been out decades ago. I hate that we subsidize the EU army so they can poke the Bear while hiding behind our skirt and having us pay for the privilege.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 08, 2021 12:37 AM (cSs/W)

470 >>Posted by: CaliGirl

That's very cool. I love that movie. I will look more closely for the scenes you mentioned next time.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2021 12:38 AM (ZLI7S)

471 ..It would be too hard to find it and too late at night, but a few years ago there was a genius from Michigan who visited Beaumont/Port Arthur, Texas, and dove off a pier that had a big sign that said Danger Alligators. It was his last act. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 08, 2021 12:33 AM (BMmaB)

Here, Ceaser recalls correctly, and exactly so. Nah, I'm not going to look up the articles, either. But I remember them, and the teevee snooz coverage, concurrently.

The dude's name was *not* Amos Moses, fwiw.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2021 12:39 AM (QzJWU)

472 One of the greatest and most dramatic scenes in Tora! Tora! Tora! was literally an accident that could have been fatal.

When the Zeros swoop down to strafe the P-40s and one of the P-40s is rolling then the wing lifts up, it veers into the other parked P-40s, and the guys go running for their lives.

That was not planned. The vortex generated by the low flying Zero caused the lightweight replica P-40's wing to lift, it was remote controlled and motorized plus rigged with a charge. And when it went out of control everybody started running for their lives.

They kept it in the movie because it was so dramatic.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:39 AM (Q/4Cu)

473 Cali Girl that is a cool story.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:41 AM (Q/4Cu)

474 And when it went out of control everybody started running for their lives.

They kept it in the movie because it was so dramatic.
Posted by: Anna Puma

I can abso-damn-lutely believe that.

We call that Payday Friday, and we got all kinda videos, other than what they took as Evidence.

Posted by: Miklos, regularly entertained at minimal expense here at Trailer Acres at December 08, 2021 12:43 AM (QzkSJ)

475 They kept it in the movie because it was so dramatic.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:39 AM (Q/4Cu)

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Wait until you experience the scene in Rust where I shoot the cinematographer.

Gripping.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at December 08, 2021 12:43 AM (VxC1e)

476 My FIL was the squadron commander during the filming. He decided he was going to fly in the movie. I have an article that was written about the movie that he sent me but I don't know where I put it. Here is the whole email he sent me. He's like 91 and a tough an impressive man.

, I only flew in the carrier scenes and formation shots. I have a couple page write up which I am putting the mail to you and it tells the story or at least my involvement. Side numbers on the Kate I flew are 314 316, 317 and 318. Did the only carrier landing that appears in the movie in K-318. It was only a touch and go not an arrested landing as the Navy would not allow that.

Stuff is in the mail, Love

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:31 AM (6z9vr


Mucho cool

Posted by: Javems at December 08, 2021 12:43 AM (AmoqO)

477 Then there was the Niihau Incident.

Japanese pilot crash lands on the Hawai'ian island of Niihau. The locals capture him. But then one of the Niesei sides with him and they try to take the island over.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:43 AM (Q/4Cu)

478 Wait until you experience the scene in Rust where I shoot the cinematographer.

Gripping.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin

You shot the Grip too?

I fear for the fate of the Best Boy.

Posted by: Miklos, aaaand CUT! at December 08, 2021 12:46 AM (QzkSJ)

479 That's very cool. I love that movie. I will look more closely for the scenes you mentioned next time.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 08

I do remember the article my FIL sent me. He said something about they had to use an actor getting out or in to the plane because my FIL is 6'4".
He also said he had a stuntman in a rear seat and he wrote (dummy). He made me laugh.
I don't mean to sound mean but my FIL is very arrogant.
My favorite guy flew with him in Vietnam and I asked him, what was the coolest thing you did? He told me he put the lights out in Saigon. I Love this man. I could listen to their stories for hours. They don't volunteer anything, I have to ask.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:46 AM (6z9vr)

480 You don't want to know what he did to the Foley Artist.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:47 AM (Q/4Cu)

481 Japanese pilot crash lands on the Hawai'ian island of Niihau. The locals capture him. But then one of the Niesei sides with him and they try to take the island over.
Posted by: Anna Puma

An early indication of the later success of Samoan/Hawaiian sumo wrestlers.

Posted by: Miklos, betting on the fat guy at December 08, 2021 12:47 AM (QzkSJ)

482 AOP needs to produce and direct a completion and then a sequel to the movie "Rust".

The sequel will be a revenge flick, titled: "Rust Never Sleeps".

Climactic scene will involve Baldwin going down in a hail of gunfire that'd make the producers of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid blanch in horror.

No prop guns, no blanks. And the Pink Mist won't be a CGI effect.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2021 12:47 AM (QzJWU)

483 But I did not shoot the Foley artst.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at December 08, 2021 12:48 AM (VxC1e)

484 You don't want to know what he did to the Foley Artist.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Got rolled.

Posted by: Miklos, betting on that at December 08, 2021 12:48 AM (QzkSJ)

485 Probably less than 1% of the population under 50 knows we also detained and interned Germans in both WW1 and WW2.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:50 AM (ykL1t)

486 My Dad was petty officer first class, worked on PBYs, went to Hawaii after the attack, never saw live action afaik. But I never really knew him much at all. There may have been some PTSD, idk ... he kinda went over the edge trying to teach "the Bible" in his 8th grade civics class.

At this point I wish I had his old diatribes he recorded on reel to reel about "Due Process" that I did not understand as a kid. ... he got fired over it, but I'm not so sure if his cause was righteous, or if he followed Reinhold Niebuhr too much. 40 years ago my Mom worried I was following his path, in my own "Christian Quest". In any case, at this point, we all must fight the "Educational Cabal" that is consuming our kids.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2021 12:51 AM (Cus5s)

487 Probably less than 1% of the population under 50 knows we also detained and interned Germans in both WW1 and WW2.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:50 AM (ykL1t)

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We "hosted" some German POWs here. Did we intern U.S. citizens of German extraction too?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2021 12:52 AM (VxC1e)

488 >>I don't mean to sound mean but my FIL is very arrogant.
My favorite guy flew with him in Vietnam and I asked him, what was the coolest thing you did? He told me he put the lights out in Saigon. I Love this man. I could listen to their stories for hours. They don't volunteer anything, I have to ask.

Sounds like he's earned the right to be a bit proud. I bet his stories are great.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2021 12:52 AM (ZLI7S)

489 474

I hear those double-wides are going for >325k. Arleen might dig it.....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 12:53 AM (16EvI)

490 473 Cali Girl that is a cool story.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:41 AM (Q/4Cu)

I knew you'd like that. My FIL was there during the Gulf of Tonkin incident. He was flying a spad? the plane he flew is in the Smithsonian by Dulles.
I don't know which carrier he was on at the time.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 12:53 AM (6z9vr)

491 We "hosted" some German POWs here. Did we intern U.S. citizens of German extraction too?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2021 12:52 AM (VxC1e)

I believe they were German nationals who resided in the United States. I know they seized property during WW1.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:54 AM (ykL1t)

492 Actually in times of war it is SOP to put in protective custody shall we say civilians and diplomats from the combatant nations. And there are procedures for the exchange of such civilians.

IIRC there were three such exchanges between the US and Axis powers using neutral shipping in World War II.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 12:55 AM (Q/4Cu)

493 478
Yeah, well, about the best boy's second grip, huh?!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 12:56 AM (16EvI)

494
Gripping.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin

You shot the Grip too?

I fear for the fate of the Best Boy.
Posted by: Miklos, aaaand CUT!


His biggest gaff.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2021 12:57 AM (63Dwl)

495 I don't often tell the story of how I found myself piloting a Fokker triplane over the Ho Chi Minh trail as it cut through the Cambodian jungle, beating the bushes for ack ack positions. I was terrified, but exhilarated at the same time,

Posted by: Brian Williams at December 08, 2021 12:57 AM (VxC1e)

496 "I believe we've reached here a solution to the debt ceiling issue that's consistent with Republican views of raising the debt ceiling for this amount at this particular time and allows the Democrats to proudly own it," Sen. Mitch McConnell (RINO-KYJelly)

I don't think McConnell knows what "winning" is.

Posted by: Mitch Trubisky at December 08, 2021 12:58 AM (EughT)

497 ..I believe they were German nationals who resided in the United States. I know they seized property during WW1. Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:54 AM (ykL1t)

Your history books are mostly correct. There is though, a bit of grey area in German Heritage settlers, Citizens, who were caught up in the nets. Some rural, some urban. But pretty much on-par with the Japanese internments, out West. Hoover's FBI then, was about as much to integrity, as the Trump Era FBI was, now.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2021 01:00 AM (QzJWU)

498 My allergies are really bad at The Wall. Mostly eye watering.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2021 01:00 AM (KATBx)

499
You know, we're past the event horizon on the debt. It doesn't matter any more. We've got a date with a monetary singularity along our worldline. There is no escape.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2021 01:01 AM (Mzdiz)

500 Then he was aboard either Ticonderoga or Constellation as they were the first carriers on Yankee Station to strike after the Gulf of Tonkin incidents.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 01:02 AM (Q/4Cu)

501 Radio news just reported that someone burned down the Christmas tree at Fox News in NYC.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2021 01:03 AM (63Dwl)

502 The soccer story reminded me of a time long ago when I first started bartending.

It was a Friday night and the bar I was working at was fairly new. A member of the local beer board that controls the beer permits came in to "check the place out".

A band was playing and a customer sitting in the booth adjacent to the beer board member's table kept yelling for the band. The board lady got pinch-faced and came and told me I needed to "do something about that man."

I eventually had to ask him to leave, even though I had no problem with him, in order to appease her. I still regret that.

I think if that happened these days I'd tell her that there is a band playing and people are going to have fun. If she didn't accept that, I'd grab her by her dyke hair cut and shove her face in the public restroom and give her a swirlie.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 08, 2021 01:03 AM (7F9te)

503 The arson suspect is named Karen Grinch

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 01:04 AM (Q/4Cu)

504 His biggest gaff.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

They have it on tape.

Posted by: Cheap Repair Hints from Heloise and Miklos at December 08, 2021 01:05 AM (QzkSJ)

505 499 publius
Best thing - be prepared.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 01:06 AM (16EvI)

506 Oh well, good night.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 01:07 AM (Q/4Cu)

507 You know, we're past the event horizon on the debt. It doesn't matter any more. We've got a date with a monetary singularity along our worldline. There is no escape.
Posted by: publius,

"The Days, they counted. They counted of the days. Days without end."

Posted by: Miklos, quoting the Mayan Popol Vuh at December 08, 2021 01:08 AM (QzkSJ)

508 Thanks for the tidings and comfort of joy Mishum. French horn guy is awe inspiring.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * we few, we happy few, we band of morons at December 08, 2021 01:11 AM (cqwHD)

509 Ima gonna lurk for a while.
Love you guys.....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 01:11 AM (16EvI)

510 Then he was aboard either Ticonderoga or Constellation as they were the first carriers on Yankee Station to strike after the Gulf of Tonkin incidents.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2021 01:02 AM (Q/4Cu)

He served on both of those, I don't know which one he was on during the incident. They woke him up in the middle of the night to do a flight. I want to say Stockdale was his commander. I may have the story mixed up. So don't quote me.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 01:12 AM (6z9vr)

511 Ima gonna lurk for a while.
Love you guys.....
Posted by: COMountainMarie

*drops small dry ice cube into lurky-drinky*

Cool, huh?

Posted by: Miklos, genial Late Nite bartender at December 08, 2021 01:13 AM (QzkSJ)

512
The Schwarzschild black hole analogy is pretty good, and paints a pretty cool picture. Gravity does wild things with space and time, as Uncle Al Einstein figured out. This is but a "coordinate dependent description" (the real physics doesn't depend on any such global coordinate system imposed).

Inside the black hole, space and time get flipped. The radial direction is time and time is the radial direction. Inside, the singularity is now "time like" meaning it exists in the future (of everyone who falls inside) and not a position in space one can point at.

You can no more avoid the singularity than you can avoid tomorrow. No matter where you run, tomorrow will come for you.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2021 01:14 AM (Mzdiz)

513 My Dad commanded the Medical Supply Depot at Schofield Barracks. He ALWAYS blamed Roosevelt. Richardson was relieved by Roosevelt because he refused to dock the Fleet in Pearl.

The surprise was twofold: The specific date and the fact it was 'merely' a raid. Army and Navy were preparing for an expected invasion in the spring. The first of three shiploads of medical supplies actually left San Francisco on Dec. 6.

They knew large numbers of Japanese Infantry had been pulled from China and shipped South; but also knew there was no way troop transports could cross Pacific in Winter. The troops in the Islands were always on some level of alert for signs of invasion.

Towards that end ... over 25 yrs. ago Nat'l Geographic got permission to dive and photo the Arizona. They found the portholes closed and locked. That was never done while docked but were left open to 'air out' the between decks. There for damn sure wasn't time to close and lock them once the attack began.



Posted by: Lurking Cynic at December 08, 2021 01:14 AM (RS9ZG)

514
I think if that happened these days I'd tell her that there is a band playing and people are going to have fun. If she didn't accept that, I'd grab her by her dyke hair cut and shove her face in the public restroom and give her a swirlie.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

The value of life experience is not understood by the yewt. I have a few woulda, shoulda, if only I coulda moments in my life.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * we few, we happy few, we band of morons at December 08, 2021 01:15 AM (cqwHD)

515 Tis time.

Goodnite, good people. Be safe and sleep well.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2021 01:16 AM (KATBx)

516 Well the closing went off without a hitch. The old house is gone, and I can finally close the book on the epic move from hell. I need to get drunk.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2021 01:16 AM (VwHCD)

517 We "hosted" some German POWs here. Did we intern U.S. citizens of German extraction too?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2021 12:52 AM (VxC1e)

I believe they were German nationals who resided in the United States. I know they seized property during WW1.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 08, 2021 12:54 AM (ykL1t)


I know we hosted German POWs at camp Cooke (vandenberg).

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 01:16 AM (6z9vr)

518 Your history books are mostly correct. There is though, a bit of grey area in German Heritage settlers, Citizens, who were caught up in the nets. Some rural, some urban. But pretty much on-par with the Japanese internments, out West. Hoover's FBI then, was about as much to integrity, as the Trump Era FBI was, now.

Jim

Let us not forget Woodrow Wilson's American Protective League, government empowered and authorized thugs and enforcers. Didn't O'Barky propose the same?

Posted by: Miklos, history rhymes to me at December 08, 2021 01:17 AM (QzkSJ)

519 511

Heyyy...now wait just a minute....what exactly is a "lurky-drinky"?
Will I like it?

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 08, 2021 01:17 AM (16EvI)

520 I know we hosted German POWs at camp Cooke (vandenberg).
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 01:16 AM (6z9vr)

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There was a major German POW camp at Florence, AZ. It's funny now that Florence has carried on the tradition and is known for having more prisons then any other city, including a big federal pen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2021 01:19 AM (VxC1e)

521 Posted by: Lurking Cynic at December 08, 2021 01:14 AM (RS9ZG)


Bless your father. Better person than I could dream of being.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 01:21 AM (6z9vr)

522 Hmm, well Notre Dame is right out now (I have seen in back in the day), so this might be the only part of Europe worth seeing and that I still would like to see!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at
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You, uh, live in America. The worst places in Europe are better than your country. Rioting,pooping in the streets,the smell of piss everywhere when you visit New York,constant racism against white people:you are in no position to judge.

Posted by: schopenhauer at December 08, 2021 01:22 AM (vUmc8)

523 "we're past the event horizon on the debt. It doesn't matter any more. We've got a date with a monetary singularity along our worldline. There is no escape."

Especially as we move to these multi-trillion bailouts, or "stimuli". BUT as with a controlled demolition, the question is where the debt load falls. With bankruptcy courts, an informed outside power decides how to revive or sell the current assets. Do we just let it all collapse, or renegotiate or even cancel "unfair debts".

Many WW2 debts and more since were just cancelled. Way back in high school my friends and I would joke about "the debt is cancelled". imo all Western Gov's should cancel all China related debt, or actually, take that debt as partial payment for their global plandemic. That would be a good start ... also take Mitch/Biden/Pelosi et al assets they acquired via China treason.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2021 01:22 AM (Cus5s)

524 There was a major German POW camp at Florence, AZ. It's funny now that Florence has carried on the tradition and is known for having more prisons then any other city, including a big federal pen.
Posted by: Cicero

The big cluster of German companies (BMW makes more cars there than in Gemany) around Spartanburg, SC is directly related to the German POW camp there during WWII.

Posted by: Miklos, things work out in odd ways sometimes at December 08, 2021 01:23 AM (QzkSJ)

525 Geneva Conventions, quite sensibly and as a direct result of European experience (the basis of most of them), requires signatories to intern/isolate/protect enemy aliens (civilian citizens of an enemy power) under their control, in time of war.

This is to avoid the unfortunate depredations against said aliens that occur, with some regularity, under those conditions.

A significant % of those ethnic Japanese interned after Pearl Harbor were either subjects of Imperial Japan, or dual nationals. Or in families with one or both of those situations. Geneva requirements were not the primary motivation for removals, but the Geneva rationale was vindicated (even the Manzanar museum lets slip some direct testimony by interned Japanese-Americans that they felt safer in camp than at home after 12/7/41).

The primary rationale for internment was espionage/sabotage fears, which while they proved unfounded, were not based on blind fear or imaginary threats.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:24 AM (OTzUX)

526 not based on blind fear or imaginary threats.
Posted by: rhomboid

*SCIENCE-TYPE GLARE*

Posted by: Big Tony Fauci, highest paid fraud in the entire US taxpayer funded government at December 08, 2021 01:26 AM (QzkSJ)

527 CaliGirl, didn't know about the camp up there. Windsor (up in Sonoma) had one, with a funny incident.

Miklos, did not know the connection re Spartanburg and BMW. Amazing.

Highly recommend a UToob video documentary on a German POW camp, at Concordia, KS (you can look it up using those words). Pretty classic and fairly typical. Once the hard-asses were separated, prisoners had nice quiet lives and often became friends or surrogate sons for local families, several post-war marriages resulted.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:27 AM (OTzUX)

528
I was reading over Ace's earlier thread about Yosemite Alec Baldwin, and his possible criminal culpability there. Specifically, the "depraved heart" thing. While that is interesting and fun to think about, that is a bridge to far, along with "felony murder". The equivalent of involuntary manslaughter is about as far as you can go there -- I think that case could be made, and they should try it.

That got me interested in this "depraved heart" business. Some states will call that 2nd degree Murder. Other states different things.

Here in SC, there are no different degrees of murder. There's just murder. Criminal homicide falls under two categories, murder and manslaughter, the latter divided into voluntary and involuntary.

Voluntary manslaughter is sort of, say Cletus and Bubba are in a bar, and Cletus calls Bubba's mama a whore, and Bubba starts whupping his ass. Cletus ends up dead after Bubba knocked his head against the wall or something. That's usually what ends up as voluntary manslaughter. Not murder. Bubba didn't intend to murder Cletus, but he was provoked into a rage, and ended up killin' Cletus.
[cont]

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2021 01:28 AM (Mzdiz)

529 [iLet us not forget Woodrow Wilson's American Protective League, government empowered and authorized thugs and enforcers. Didn't O'Barky propose the same? Posted by: Miklos, history rhymes to me at December 08, 2021 01:17 AM (QzkSJ)

Propose, hell. WTF you think are BLM and Antifartz? Just 'cause the .gov funding got routed through Soros, et al, doesn't mean that Unka Feddie wasn't behind not only the black bloc types, but damn sure put each and every glowie directly on the .fed payroll.

Same as was then, as is now.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2021 01:29 AM (QzJWU)

530 Well "German heritage" Americans in WWII did OK, they even sometimes stumbled into fairly important positions ..... like CINCPAC.

No idea about internment, but would bet it was limited to enemy aliens (= citizens of the Reich).

One little-known - and it seems, assiduously unexamined - similar action in WWII was removal of Italian-Americans from "strategic" port locations, such as Fisherman's Wharf and San Diego's Little Italy. Very difficult to find solid info on it. No internment, just exclusion areas.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:30 AM (OTzUX)

531 Now I want to find out what happened to Bubba.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2021 01:30 AM (VxC1e)

532 "We "hosted" some German POWs here. Did we intern U.S. citizens of German extraction too?"

I had a "great-uncle" (heavy German heritage) that fought in WW1, and a few that fought (all for USA) in WW2 ... the Midwest has a lot of old German heritage settled from the 1800s. I never heard of any being questioned over American loyalty. They largely escaped being cannon fodder for the kaiser, or whoever was using the proles as slaves at the time.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2021 01:32 AM (Cus5s)

533 And I've said it here before, my favorite question to ask people about Japanese-American internment is, why was the exclusion zone extended east along the US-Mexico border, to include Arizona? Otherwise it was just the west coast. The answer illustrates how the whole thing was driven by real intel fears. Bad idea, unconstitutional, definitely. But it was based on specific perceived threats.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:33 AM (OTzUX)

534 >>I know we hosted German POWs at camp Cooke (vandenberg).

My town is actually made up of 3 islands, only one of which is still occupied. The Navy still has a part of of one and the other is completely unoccupied but the town and the state are talking about turning it into a state park.

That island was also a German POW camp in WWII. The last German U-boat was sunk not to far from here just off the coast. It doesn't get talked about much now but the war wasn't really that far away.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2021 01:33 AM (ZLI7S)

535 One little-known - and it seems, assiduously unexamined - similar action in WWII was removal of Italian-Americans from "strategic" port locations, such as Fisherman's Wharf and San Diego's Little Italy. Very difficult to find solid info on it. No internment, just exclusion areas.
Posted by: rhomboid

I thought Lucky Luciano handled all that.

On the basis of an...understanding.

Posted by: Miklos "Nine Fingers" Molnarino at December 08, 2021 01:33 AM (QzkSJ)

536 "Magic" by David Lowman, an NSA historian, provides extensive detail on how our codebreaking pre-WWII led to fears of Japanese espionage or sabotage on the west coast. And explains the exclusion all the way to Arizona thing (no ports, no strategic locations at that time).

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:36 AM (OTzUX)

537
Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:27 AM (OTzUX)

There is also a rumor that the Black Dahlia worked or something at camp Cooke. My grandfather used to hunt deer at Camp Cooke. He knew a guy.
I'm like Cliff Clavin over here.

The Black Dahlia story came from my grandmother. She was friends with the original owners of the Hitching Post. I think his name was Vic Veglia.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 01:37 AM (6z9vr)

538 Now I want to find out what happened to Bubba.
Posted by: Cicero

*spits 'baccy juice*

Hey Bubba Jr., man got a question, and this time it ain't about yore Mama or sister

Posted by: Miklos, two miles from Travelers Rest at December 08, 2021 01:38 AM (QzkSJ)

539
You can see there's sort of a fine line between voluntary manslaughter and murder. If Bubba went out to his car and got his pistol and came back in and shot Cletus dead, that would likely be charged and convicted as murder.

You can see there's sort of blurry line between the two in these heat of passion cases.

Now, involuntary manslaughter. That's when your criminally negligent and reckless behavior results in the death of another person.

The interesting question is when does that transition into "depraved heart" conduct. Under SC murder law, the phrase is "an abandoned and malignant heart", which I like and means the same thing.

Basically, that means the conduct you engage in is so reckless that any fool would know it would get somebody killed, and you do it anyway, knowing full well the consequences. You don't give a shit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2021 01:39 AM (Mzdiz)

540 You don't give a shit.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion

"Excrementum non Givendum"

Posted by: Miklos, thinking a modification to family Coat of Arms at December 08, 2021 01:42 AM (QzkSJ)

541 Miklos that whole story is quite interesting. And speaks to, um, practicalities. The USG went to the mob pre-Pearl Harbor after its own efforts to penetrate Axis espionage operations at east coast ports comically failed. This included going to Lucky, in prison, to make some deals.

Luciano was an avid pro-Allied sort (ah, an America where even the mobsters could be patriotic), and his control of the docks ensured the Axis stuff was snuffed out. Luciano even volunteered to parachute into Sicily as part of Operation Husky, to help, with, ya know, um, local connections.

US declined the offer, but Luciano provided specific connections in some areas that in fact were used by arriving American forces (locals nicely pointed out all the German positions and other intel).

Another nice mob angle was Lansky and Siegel's boys busting into Bund events and beating people up. Nice Jewish mob direct action against pro-Nazi f**ks. Beautiful, really.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:42 AM (OTzUX)

542 That island was also a German POW camp in WWII. The last German U-boat was sunk not to far from here just off the coast. It doesn't get talked about much now but the war wasn't really that far away.
Posted by: JackStraw at D

The Japanese bombed Goleta, Ellwood Near Santa Barbara. My mother remembers no lights on cars because of it? Or something.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 01:42 AM (6z9vr)

543
I've told this story several times, but a neighbor who moved in the area after he retired was a German immigrant. He was a POW in a camp in Georgia after his U-boat was sunk. He liked things so much here, that after he was repatriated, he immediately started working on getting back here, and succeeded.

Basically, the POWs were well-fed and taken care of, and loved it. He got to work on local farms, and just loved the hospitality. Nobody tried to escape, and even ratted out any gung-ho true believer types who might've fucked up the good thing they had going.

German officers got the VIP treatment. They'd take them into town for Sunday dinner. Some of that "S'mo pie, sugar?" worked magic on them.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2021 01:47 AM (Mzdiz)

544 >>The Japanese bombed Goleta, Ellwood Near Santa Barbara. My mother remembers no lights on cars because of it? Or something.

I think we'll survive a bunch of sexually confused idiots.

Nice chatting with you, I'm up way past my bedtime.

Goodnight.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2021 01:47 AM (ZLI7S)

545 Basically, the POWs were well-fed and taken care of, and loved it. He got to work on local farms, and just loved the hospitality. Nobody tried to escape, and even ratted out any gung-ho true believer types who might've fucked up the good thing they had going.

German officers got the VIP treatment. They'd take them into town for Sunday dinner. Some of that "S'mo pie, sugar?" worked magic on them.
Posted by: publius

What I said.

BASF and others, then BMW were guided to upstate SC because they were treated well (very well in some cases, ahem) and knew that the locals were opposed to (labor) unions.

Posted by: Miklos, you can German spoken at lunchtime in downtown Spartanburg at December 08, 2021 01:50 AM (QzkSJ)

546 Also, Strom Thurmond's driver, and the Executive Chef in the SC Governor's Mansion were ex-German POWs until the 1970s.

Posted by: Miklos, reads and talks and listens and similar at December 08, 2021 01:51 AM (QzkSJ)

547 Woodrow Wolfsen.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 08, 2021 01:52 AM (LtGlA)

548 CaliGirl, February 23, 1942, I-17 shelled the oil pier/storage area at Ellwood. Caused minor damage, and major panic.

Had a gf whose mother grew up on a ranch in the area (north of Goleta). She told me the sheriff came around to all the ranches, told them to black out their windows, and the local men set up check-points on some roads, with their shotguns.

It was also the major reason for the panic and "Battle of Los Angeles" two days later, in which panicky anti-aircraft crews lit up the sky over LA in response to phantom attackers.

There's a book, title escapes me now, about another contributing factor to the LA festivities. A flight of anti-submarine aircraft from the east coast was coming into LA, and it is believed this was misinterpreted. Interesting little book. It's mostly about the pilot and his eventual sinking of a U-boat off North Carolina, and his eventual friendship with the surviving U-boat commander.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:52 AM (OTzUX)

549 "The Burning Shore", by Edward Offley. That was the book with the anti-submarine aircraft sotry. Also, years earlier another book, "Paukenschlag" (drumbeat), the codename for the big U-boat offensive on the US east coast in 1942.

There were 4 or 5 total attacks on the US and Canadian west coast by Japanese subs in WWII, and some sinkings of ships in the first months after Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:56 AM (OTzUX)

550 Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:52 AM (OTzUX)

I have deja vu, we have talked about this before. I always wonder if after the fact if my family misremembered things that happened or were just pulling my leg.

I only know these things because I am from here, not because I know history like you guys do.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 08, 2021 01:59 AM (6z9vr)

551 "Thus, I can see the current SCOTUS suggesting that a nominal fee for non-compliance as an 'emit ius' or a purchased right - even though that concept is unconstitutional in and of itself."

I disagree because the paradigmatic difference between compulsion by tax (Obamacare) and *this* (non)-vax mandate is that what you are being compelled to take/do is harmful. Having health insurance is not harmful. Being forced to take an experimental drug that is causing all kinds of problems -- being kept on the downlow by the Gubmint-Media Complex -- runs into all kinds of substantive and procedural due process problems. There's certainly no rational basis to compel someone to take an experimental mRNA treatment that does not prevent infection and actually makes things worse.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 02:03 AM (KAi1n)

552 One little-known - and it seems, assiduously unexamined - similar action in WWII was removal of Italian-Americans from "strategic" port locations, such as Fisherman's Wharf and San Diego's Little Italy. Very difficult to find solid info on it. No internment, just exclusion areas.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 01:30

I thought there was internment for some German-Americans and Italian-Americans. Not sure what the qualifications were, but some were interned.

Posted by: Farmer at December 08, 2021 02:03 AM (55Qr6)

553 I think there was a learning curve, but eventually US authorities knew to separate the hard-core from the majority of the German POWs. They had separate camps for the die-hards.

As publius notes, in general a German POW's life here was quite nice. Farm labor, usually. Small towns, nice people, they often became part of the community.

The Camp Windsor story (Sonoma County) was that 2 young POWs "escaped" (i.e., disappeared). Quite the ruckus and concern in the area, sheriffs out, I think posses looking, etc.

Found them on the beach (not sure, assuming near Jenner at the mouth of the Russian River), just relaxing. That was their objective - to see the Pacific. Pretty good "duty" for a member of the German military in WWII.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 02:03 AM (OTzUX)

554 Weird connections to the past.

An older neighbor lady in Budapest offered to do my button-down business shirts. Never saw a white shirt that white, or an ironed shirt more perfectly ironed.

After some compliments and some talk, she explained that as a teenager, she had worked at the Gellert Hotel. When it was the German Officers' HQ.

It had to be PERFECT

Posted by: Miklos, re-recalling at December 08, 2021 02:04 AM (QzkSJ)

555
That German POW was named "Konrad". He was a hoot. Anyway, he told the story of his capture, after their U-boat was defeated. They were taken onboard an American ship. They were scared to death. Then he watched as his captain was *piped aboard* the American ship, will full honors.

All our guys snapped a salute to the German captain, as he walked aboard, defeated, and the last man to leave his doomed ship. He walked straight up to the American captain, delivered a smart salute, clicking his heel. The American captain retuned that salutue, clicking his heels in return. They shook hands.

The German captain then asked for permission to address his men, which was granted. He told them something to the effect of, men, you have served the fatherland well and I'm proud to have commanded you. The war is now over for you. Do what the Americans say, and you will be treated well, the American captain has given me his word of honor.

The American captain then escorted the German captain below deck. And they did just what their captain told them, and they were treated well.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2021 02:06 AM (Mzdiz)

556 My paternal grandfather was a block warden in L.A. My father told me the story about how one night, some neighbor refused to turn out their porch light, so "Bops" (derived from boppa derived from poppa), a self-styled tough guy (in reality a middle-aged (for the time) Jewish guy who sold insurance and had 3 kids), took his service revolver and shot the porch light out. Simple solution to a simple problem.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 02:06 AM (KAi1n)

557 Farmer I don't think any German- or Italian-Americans with no foreign citizenship, or any other particular issue, were interned. There was no "ethnic" basis for internment, there had to be some connection to the Axis, or some other specific issue for detention.

Of course in the case of Japan, ethnicity was seen as, and largely was, coterminous with nationality, which was the whole problem - or at least the basis for the concern.

If there were any actual "ethnic" basis to it all, the US wouldn't have almost immediately started recruiting from the relocation camps (including for vital and sensitive things like the intel school in MN). Also, there would have been no "loyalty oath" issue. If swearing an oath could change your status (and it could and did), then ..... ethnicity wasn't really the issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 02:09 AM (OTzUX)

558 The American captain then escorted the German captain below deck. And they did just what their captain told them, and they were treated well.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion

In WWII, *everybody* wanted to be captured by the Americans. Maybe even some Brits who wanted to go to Hollywood.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 02:09 AM (KAi1n)

559 Neither grandfather was in military during ww2,both had families started at time though that doesn't discount the possibility.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2021 02:11 AM (2JoB8)

560 The American captain then escorted the German captain below deck. And they did just what their captain told them, and they were treated well.
Posted by: publius

A German guy named Klaus had a German restaurant in Irmo, SC.

Met his younger brother there, possibly the youngest (survivor) U-Boat captain of WWII. In the last days of the war, at the age of about 19, he beached his boat to save his men.

Posted by: Miklos, nice to meet interesting people at December 08, 2021 02:11 AM (QzkSJ)

561 Australia needs regime change.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 08, 2021 02:11 AM (LtGlA)

562 Found them on the beach (not sure, assuming near Jenner at the mouth of the Russian River), just relaxing.
Posted by: rhomboid

Note the irony.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 02:12 AM (KAi1n)

563 In WWII, *everybody* wanted to be captured by the Americans. Maybe even some Brits who wanted to go to Hollywood.
Posted by: SFGoth

FUN FACT

David Niven was in The Guns of Navarone, loosely based on a raid he participated in as a Commando

Posted by: Miklos, yer Fun Fact Pal at December 08, 2021 02:13 AM (QzkSJ)

564 Caligirl:

On his behalf, I thank-you.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at December 08, 2021 02:13 AM (RS9ZG)

565 I hate that we subsidize the EU army so they can poke the Bear while hiding behind our skirt
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen

More irony (these days).

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2021 02:14 AM (KAi1n)

566 They should pull out of Germany as quickly as they pulled out of Afghanistan. Let the Fourth Reich sort out their own defense.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 08, 2021 02:17 AM (LtGlA)

567 So Miklos, looked up the Niven thing I mentioned yesterday when people were talking Battle of the Bulge (whose 77th anniversary is soon).

Niven was I believe a liaison officer at that time, and was traveling to connect with an American commander on the northern "shoulder" of the Bulge. The Skorzeny sabotage teams had created great paranoia and extra precautions among the American forces.

Niven was stopped at a checkpoint and asked to name the winner of the 1940 World Series.

His alleged answer: "I haven't the faintest idea, but I do know that I made a picture with Ginger Rogers in 1938".

If true, surely the best version of the "do you know who I am???" thing on record.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2021 02:18 AM (OTzUX)

568 More irony (these days).
Posted by: SFGoth

Iron-y is good for ye

Posted by: Popeye at December 08, 2021 02:21 AM (QzkSJ)

569 If true, surely the best version of the "do you know who I am???" thing on record.
Posted by: rhomboid

Certainly one I will have difficulty surpassing.

Posted by: Even Miklos doesn't know who Miklos is at December 08, 2021 02:23 AM (QzkSJ)

570 I have some cartoons from the war era. Donald Duck and Popeye and Bugs Bunny. Banned now.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 08, 2021 02:24 AM (LtGlA)

571 Neither grandfather was in military during ww2,both had families started at time though that doesn't discount the possibility.
Posted by: Skip

Back to bed, Young Man!

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Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 08, 2021 04:49 AM (rDgjh)

593 German humor is very very . . . RAW.

If they have any at all. It's why they're not much fun in war.

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