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"They" Still Don't Get It
David Brooks, do you remember him?
Once again he's back pontificating about his incredible insight into a movement he knows nothing about. A cousin of mine sent me the following link: With the following comment, "Eye Opening". David Brooks is frightened: "The Terrifying Future of the American Right - What I saw at the National Conservatism Conference". Mr. Brooks attended the conference and in his own words:When I came down to Florida for the National Conservatism Conference, I was a little concerned I’d get heckled in the hallways, or be subjected to the verbal abuse I occasionally get from Trump supporters. Judging by their rhetoric, after all, these are the fire-breathers, the hard-liners, the intellectual sharp edge of the American right. But everyone was charming! I hung around the bar watching football each night, saw old conservative friends, and met lots of new ones, and I enjoyed them all.
What were you expecting, child rapists hitting you with a skateboard, a "smurf" with blue hair and 49 piercings, confused by how many genders there are? Granted before Twitter ousted me I would Tweet you with smarmy remarks. However, if I ever had the chance to meet you in person, I would address you properly and leave it at that. Oh goody he enjoyed them all. I will now be able to sleep this evening knowing this important fact.
According to the wise and "Conservative" David Brooks there are 3 strains of the American Right.
First, the people over 50 who have been hanging around conservative circles for decades but who have recently been radicalized by the current left The second strain is made up of mid-career politicians and operatives who are learning to adapt to the age of populist rage: people like Ted Cruz (Princeton, Harvard), J. D. Vance (Yale Law), and Josh Hawley (Stanford and Yale) The third and largest strain is the young. They grew up in the era of Facebook and MSNBC and identity politics. They went to colleges smothered by progressive sermonizing. And they reacted by running in the other direction. I disagreed with two-thirds of what I heard at this conference, but I couldn’t quite suppress the disturbing voice in my head saying, “If you were 22, maybe you’d be here too.”
Populist rage? My, what he could talk about, proper enforcement of immigration laws, allowing the U.S.A. to be energy independent? Just to name a couple of current affair topics. Mr. Brooks was never a Conservative, nor will he ever be. For such an enlightened man he certainly lacks any inquisitiveness or any true observational skills, for example:
The NatCons are wrong to think there is a unified thing called “the left” that hates America. This is just the apocalyptic menace many of them had to invent in order to justify their decision to vote for Donald Trump.I guess I must be having hallucinations when Antifa and BLM are burning the cities of Portland, Kenosha and Seattle for example. I must be nuts to think that the majority of bannings, timeouts and the like on Social Media Platforms are for those right of center. Often we hear from the Keepers of The Gate, "It was a mistake". The Left are never caught up in the Mistake excuse.
He concludes:
Finally, there is something extremely off-putting about the NatCon public pose. In person, as I say, I find many of them charming, warm, and friendly. But their public posture is dominated by the psychology of threat and menace. If there was one expression of sympathy, kindness, or grace uttered from the podium in Orlando, I did not hear it. But I did hear callousness, invocations of combat, and whiffs of brutality.I've read and reread his Atlantic article. Not one of the quotes attributed to any of the speakers were of "threat and menace". It sure seems everything the current "Conservative Movement" believes are not the beliefs of David Brooks. Just what does Mr. Brooks intend to conserve? The problem with the David Brooks and his ilk can be answered in the question put forth on Twitter several years ago by friend of AoSHQ, John Ekdahl.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 02:45 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: carlos mencia at November 24, 2021 02:46 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 02:47 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 24, 2021 02:47 PM (EGgeh)
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 24, 2021 02:47 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2021 02:47 PM (cSyAR)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 24, 2021 02:48 PM (cKllL)
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 02:48 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Brooks means "simpery" here, he didn't hear much simpery to the Left, which he denies exists.
Posted by: Thrawn at November 24, 2021 02:48 PM (Rl7KJ)
Posted by: Northernlurker
He's important, dammit. And people like him. Just ask him.
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 02:48 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 24, 2021 02:48 PM (R/m4+)
Question to reporters: do you personally know
someone that owns one?
Own two Fords. Step son owns a Ford. Father-in-law owns a Chevy and brother-in-law owns a GMC. Yeah.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: carlos mencia at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: MikeM at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (2aX9r)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (cSyAR)
Posted by: what some bitch said at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (m/Gc2)
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (DiVy8)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Jonah G. at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (jYQlA)
David Brooks is a coward, and proud of it. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Drift Back in Time at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (notaz)
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Well I'm certainly not going to call it by the vulgar American name of soccer.
- David Brooks
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (7bRMQ)
The rubes are rubes for making sweeping generalizations, the proposition for which I show support with this sweeping generalization, because I is smart.
What a maroon.
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (SH2Zi)
Go there under false pretenses, enjoy the good fellowship around you and then write a poison pen article defaming all of them.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (eoQWY)
One question: are you thinking about woodchippers right now? Oops, that might upset Mr. Brooks.
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: MikeM at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (2aX9r)
dunked in bleach, covered in tar, smothered in feathers and run out of town on a rail?
Posted by: carlos mencia at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: spindrift at November 24, 2021 02:51 PM (h5TKJ)
Don't tell me how I 'justified" my decision, bitch.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 02:51 PM (Bmy3R)
Consider this possibility: none of us know who you are.
Posted by: t-bird at November 24, 2021 02:51 PM (9Fwwf)
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 02:52 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Frank Luntz at November 24, 2021 02:52 PM (DiVy8)
Posted by: Joe Average at November 24, 2021 02:52 PM (jYQlA)
Savages.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2021 02:49 PM (ZLI7S)
well he kept asking jonah for a recommendation and he offed his hotdog repeatedly...
Posted by: carlos mencia at November 24, 2021 02:52 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 24, 2021 02:52 PM (TNyrE)
And how about the podiums used by the fake president? His press propagandist? Calling innocent citizens "white supremicists" ring a bell?
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 02:52 PM (Bmy3R)
That is cute. A card carrying leftist puts on his conservative hat to tell us there is no organized left out to get us.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 02:53 PM (9HRiP)
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 02:53 PM (ZsR3z)
It's funny. If you wanted to characterize the other side, simply reverse the posture Brooks describes for the right. In the words of Gordon Gekko, the Left loves animals, but hates people.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 02:53 PM (/E/BW)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 02:53 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: carlos mencia
Well, the next time he goes to a conservative event, they could start by corralling him into the men's room and giving him the swirlie he so desperately needs.
Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2021 02:53 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 02:54 PM (eoQWY)
Skateboard dude was a Grandmother Strangler. (His own grandmother, no less)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 02:54 PM (KrMCC)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 24, 2021 02:54 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 02:54 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 02:53 PM (9HRiP)
Spontaneous piles of bricks upside the head couldn't knock some sense into him.
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 02:54 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Our Miss Miklos Brooks at November 24, 2021 02:54 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: soft white underbelly at November 24, 2021 02:54 PM (PsZD0)
Brooks is obsessed with elite academic pedigrees. He wrote a truly embarrassing column when Obama got inaugurated saying that the Obama Administration would be the Greatest Administration Ever, because all the senior people in the Obama Administration had gone to Harvard, Yale, or Princeton (and yeah, he did the listing of people followed by what universities they had gone to there too, like here).
Apparently the example of letting Harvard University run the Vietnam War didn't make an impression on him.
Poor David only has a BA from the University of Chicago, so he'll never be invited to the cool kids' table.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (I2/tG)
It isn't a sweeping generalization because he qualified it with "many".
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (9HRiP)
It's like when John Daniel Davidson posted on The Federalist about how stupid and lazy we all were because we didn't want to see our jobs eliminated and shipped over seas. I bet he was offended by people telling journalists to "Learn to Code".
It's not the people that hate us that we have to worry about. It's the people who look down on us and think they know better and call themselves conservative. So, sure. We'll be polite and respectful because that defines us. But we recognize that they are our enemies because they defined themselves as such.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (B0mGw)
Conservatives probably less than $10,000 damages no kills.
Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 02:53 PM (/E/BW)
PETA kills nearly every animal they can get their hands on without any chance for adoption.
The left hates animals as much as they do people. Any club will do to beat with to make their bid for power.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (cSyAR)
Posted by: GlendaleGreybeard at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (cn6vO)
David Brooks is a coward, and proud of it. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Drift Back in Time at November 24, 2021 02:50 PM (notaz)
Oh, and by the way, Brooks made a big deal about flirting with Christianity and promoting a more moral life. In the end, he left his wife for his assistant.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (/E/BW)
Posted by: ejochs at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (lSFMQ)
Posted by: David Brooks at November 24, 2021 02:56 PM (gX+4x)
Posted by: JT at November 24, 2021 02:56 PM (arJlL)
Nobody is as spiritual as I am!
Posted by: David Brooks! at November 24, 2021 02:56 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Furious George at November 24, 2021 02:56 PM (9vQJW)
Consider this possibility: none of us know who you are.
Posted by: t-bird
Was THAT David Brooks? I thought that was the bell hop.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 02:57 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (I2/tG)
I have a Masters in Physics from there, so Davie is like an insect on the totem pole to me - his rules.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 02:57 PM (eoQWY)
And what exactly is the problem with that?
Posted by: George Will at November 24, 2021 02:57 PM (m/Gc2)
He's also the guy who feels sorry for his friends who don't understand Italian names for cold cuts on sandwiches. But don't you dare call him a pompous t***.
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 02:57 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 02:57 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: MikeM
Shunned Old Amish style. No one, and I mean, NO ONE of the faith talks or has anything to do with you in any manner.
Even your family has to decide what way to go. It's harsh.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 02:57 PM (mD/uy)
But honestly, David Brooks is not dangerous because he has any major influence over the conservative movement. He is an NYT quisling whose existence is used to silence the rest of us. This would usually be a problem- but with a broad popular movement ready to purge the elite neoliberal, things could return back to normal.
Posted by: trev006 at November 24, 2021 02:58 PM (4ZzP7)
Or maybe that one is a work truck. But he probably has one of his own.
Posted by: David Brooks at November 24, 2021 02:58 PM (sGnvY)
Posted by: Regular joe at November 24, 2021 02:58 PM (L9P9s)
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 24, 2021 02:58 PM (B0mGw)
Of course they do! The waitstaff at his upscale restaurant, the groundskeepers and housekeepers at his house, and many, many more!
Posted by: soft white underbelly at November 24, 2021 02:58 PM (PsZD0)
Masters in Economics here. Undergraduates at the U of C are an afterthought.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 02:59 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Big Bad Bully at November 24, 2021 02:59 PM (63Dwl)
But when you walk, talk and act like a leftist you are a leftist.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2021 02:59 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:00 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: Wally at November 24, 2021 03:00 PM (7xGRK)
Consider this possibility: none of us know who you are.
You're not important enough to heckle, David.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 03:00 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 03:00 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 03:01 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 02:57 PM (ZsR3z)
"Soprasetta?" on something called "pane?" Why, these things are the works of the Devil! Gimme a baloney with mayo on Wonder Bread derp derp.
Posted by: Typical Conservative, to David Brooks at November 24, 2021 03:01 PM (Bmy3R)
Posted by: Paco at November 24, 2021 03:01 PM (njExo)
But when you walk, talk and act like a leftist you are a leftist.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2021 02:59 PM (ZLI7S)
It's a pretty crowded field, they always feel they need to do something to rise above the rest of the scum. It's really more a game of leapfrog.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:01 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: InCali at November 24, 2021 03:02 PM (ov5G+)
Posted by: pep
Yes, it is!!
No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 03:02 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 24, 2021 03:02 PM (BFigT)
This may come as a source of surprise to Mr. Brooks, but conservatives aren't the kind of people who scream at you while you're eating in a restaurant.
Leftie speakers at places like Liberty University are astonished that they and their words are treated politely.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 03:02 PM (/U27+)
They know it is true, they know we know it is true, and they behind closed doors or amongst their moonbat hangers on in "the right kind of (kept) CONservative circles preen about the truth of their not knowing shit about the people who empower them.
Posted by: sven at November 24, 2021 03:03 PM (Lzpvj)
I thought he retired to his dream job of being a fluffer in the the alternative-lifestyle cinema industry out in the San Fernando Valley for 20 bucks a pop...
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at November 24, 2021 03:03 PM (4VafR)
...No, it isn't.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 24, 2021 03:03 PM (B0mGw)
I like leapfrog, especially when I don't have to wear pants.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at November 24, 2021 03:03 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 24, 2021 03:03 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 24, 2021 03:03 PM (bVYXr)
But is there a "unified" left that hates America? No, why would there need to be? Any time someone specifies that way, "unified" or "organized" or anything suggesting that there has to be monthly meetings and election of a club president, it's a trick to disqualify what we see with our own eyes. When Trump says "they don't hate me, they hate you," people listening know exactly what he means because every single possible opinion that isn't extreme far left, CRT, BLM, anti-racist, communist, Thanksgiving is evil, put your mask on, is portrayed as obviously and unquestionably racist or fascist.
None of that has anything to do with Trump. David Brooks doesn't need to like Trump but how can he not SEE where people have been living for 14 years?
Posted by: Synova at November 24, 2021 03:04 PM (BD/yx)
I wonder. Did anyone even recognize him in the hallways, or anywhere else?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:05 PM (axyOa)
Should he of?
Posted by: An Italian newspaper editor at November 24, 2021 03:05 PM (Ocv6A)
The guy has a very weird vision defect that makes him part blind and only able to see 30 years in the past for some of what he sees....
Poor fella, he sincerely does not notice that the Soros DAs are willfully unleashing criminals on the public.
Posted by: sven at November 24, 2021 03:05 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 02:57 PM (OCTRt)
David actually dresses like an organ grinder's monkey so people throw coins, that's probably what threw you.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:05 PM (wAnMi)
I like leapfrog, especially when I don't have to wear pants.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at November 24, 2021 03:03 PM (ZsR3z)
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I would assume that Jonah Landwhale's favorite video game is Tapper.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 24, 2021 03:05 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: Synova at November 24, 2021 03:04 PM (BD/yx)
The left pays his paycheck.
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 03:06 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Martini Farmer
_______________
a fine wine
a pool of vomit
Posted by: Furious George at November 24, 2021 03:06 PM (9vQJW)
I wonder. Did anyone even recognize him in the hallways, or anywhere else?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:05 PM (axyOa)
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The "Kick Me" sign should have been a tell.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 03:06 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 24, 2021 03:06 PM (Ocv6A)
>Or as David Brooks also calls it, Saturday night at the gentleman's bathhouse.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 24, 2021 03:07 PM (BPuaD)
So Dave...how many 0300 fibbie raids of the homes of liberals have you seen lately?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:07 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 03:07 PM (ZsR3z)
"Not a communist enabler" buys a lot of forgiveness from me....
Brooksie thought Ogabe was a stoic conservative.
Posted by: sven at November 24, 2021 03:07 PM (Lzpvj)
The joke is that Brooks thinks that he is an Important Conservative Thinker, when in reality he's just has the Token Conservative slot at the New York Times.
No one takes him seriously, even before he wrote a whole book explaining that boffing his much younger research assistant was part of an important intellectual and spiritual journey.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 03:07 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at November 24, 2021 03:07 PM (10Mp2)
Endless wailing and gnashing of teeth "just because we don't know a single person with a pickup doesn't mean we're hopelessly out of touch"
Posted by: Sjg at November 24, 2021 03:07 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2021 02:47 PM (cSyAR)
Wasn't he the drunk on the Dean Martin Roasts?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 03:08 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: Bete at November 24, 2021 03:08 PM (Ojki1)
I'm not really familiar enough with Brooks to know if he's a professional sellout or just behind the power curve (in a similar fashion but larger degree than VDH).
But this - these people have *no idea* the level of rage that is just coasting along waiting for the day.
The well meaning but clueless are clueless out of an abundance of normalcy bias, usually fed by cushy think tank/academic positions. The sellouts are busy grasping at dollars and aren't in on the machinations of their masters, who have a better grasp of what is going on.
People just wanted to be left alone, as productive law abiding citizens and good neighbors. Instead we got this giant clusterfuck we have now.
To paraphrase and re-purpose an old saying, nothing focuses your personal political calculus like the arrival of a couple hundred BLM goons on the outskirts of your neighborhood. About ... 17 months ago was a busy evening of popping rounds into magazines; we now keep a lot more of them ready to go.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 24, 2021 03:08 PM (wsx8x)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 02:55 PM (/E/BW)
Pharisee French: "Let he who has not enjoyed watching his wife get plowed by strange men throw the first stone!"
Posted by: Thrawn at November 24, 2021 03:08 PM (Rl7KJ)
You don't expect me to keep paying California income taxes, do you?
Posted by: Near-Zombie Nancy Pelosi! at November 24, 2021 03:09 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:01 PM (wAnMi)
Brooks' real problem is that "columnist for the NY Times" used to be a resume enhancer rather than now, where the pages are full of racist clowns - and not elegant racists like himself.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 03:09 PM (eoQWY)
He says this like that makes them bad people. They didn't listen to their betters, their professors. They ran away from the enlightened progressive learning, therefore they are simpletons and not worthy of holding opinions or positions of power.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 03:10 PM (9HRiP)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2021 03:10 PM (cSyAR)
Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2021 03:11 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 03:11 PM (OCTRt)
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No, retardo. This post is about David Brooks, not Darrell Brooks. Easy to understand your confusion, since all human scum look alike to you.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 24, 2021 03:11 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2021 02:47 PM (cSyAR)
Wasn't he the drunk on the Dean Martin Roasts?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 03:08 PM (P3gRi)
No. Plays third base for the Mariner farm team in Tacoma.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:11 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Thrawn
Listen. Strange men plowing watery tarts is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 03:11 PM (mD/uy)
Brooks is easy to find, look for the keychain his wife's boyfriend left him to get in when they are asleep.
Posted by: sven at November 24, 2021 03:11 PM (Lzpvj)
I know the name David Brooks but I don't have a clue what he looks like.
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He looks like a sub in a BSDM relationship.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (/U27+)
I know the official margins in those places.
Just want to know what his final numbers were for 2020.
One of the many glaring things, deafening silences if you will, about 2020 is the lack of exhaustive (not to say ad nauseam) demo- and other-based analyses of the voting. The Trump data people, AFAIK, have never spoken on official outcomes vs. their own numbers - a gap I find very important and troubling.
The Biden numbers team made at least one incredible, and suggestive, statement, *prior* to the election - that Trump needed 53% of election day votes to win PA. He got 61%, I think. Nobody has commented on/explained this (yes I know the easy explanation would be they had slightly incorrect assumptions or numbers, but when examined closely I doubt that would hold up).
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (mZUr4)
Jack Posobiec at_JackPosobiec
Trump was right about everything Woke
Salvation Army Embraces CRT
"Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism."
1:23 PM - Nov 24, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3CLY0Sl
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:05 PM (axyOa)
That's as much a fantasy as the mothers that post their 4 year old just made some statement regarding systemic racism in the industrialized world. I can see David sitting at a bar, and when somebody looks at him, he strikes the same pose as his twitter profile while holding up his book. Only to be disappointed that person was simply trying to catch the bartender's attention for another round.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (wAnMi)
Referring to Brooks saying that there's not a unified, monolithic left... he might be partially right there...
...but it is unified in at least one thing. There is a unifying goal they all agree on, even if they fight like a bag full of cats about everything else. That goal is the dissolution of the United States as founded, an unfounding, which they can then follow on with their Year Zero / Great Reset bullshit.
We have enemies that want us destroyed, and relics like him need to adapt to this reality or get the fuck out of the way and stop pretending that they have any clue what is going on.
If we seem a little edgy, if we seem like we're on a war footing, it's because we have been backed into a corner by an enemy that controls or has undue influence over every major institution in our society, that seeks the destruction of our culture, livelihoods, and in many documentable instances - our lives.
If you can't acknowledge that painful truth, and start making plans to deal with this reality, then you've got no business commenting on current politics.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (Msrhc)
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It's funny that he continually derides and mocks the Right (all 3 branches!), never seeming to espouse anything remotely conservative in principle, yet here he is...defending the Left. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that for what it really means.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 03:10 PM (9HRiP)
Can't really blame them for not accepting the programming when the programming is as blatantly anti-reality as women can have penises and men can have vaginas, depending on their mood of the day.
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (9HRiP)
Should he of?
The New York Times established the Token Conservative slot by hiring William Safire, who was an actual conservative, and a good writer.
But after Safire retired, the NYT naturally decided that it was inappropriate to hire a "conservative" who actually voted for Republicans, so they got Brooks.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 03:13 PM (I2/tG)
FFS, I have been aware for at least a decade that there is a unified left that hates America. And this asshole gets paid for his opinions? Wow.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 24, 2021 03:13 PM (Do5/p)
The Neon Demon - A Clockwork Orange - Rollerball - The Bad Batch - Dr Strangelove - Seven Samurai - Amadeus - Rosencranz and Gildenstern are Dead - The Evil Dead - Raising Arizona - The Big Lebowski - La Femme Nikita - The Professional (Leon) - Young Frankenstein - Blazing Saddles - Monty Python and the Holy Grail - The Outlaw Josey Wales - Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 03:13 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (mZUr4)
Brooks Bros. > Ezra Brooks >>> David Brooks
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:13 PM (wAnMi)
Salvation Army Embraces CRT
"Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism."
1:23 PM - Nov 24, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3CLY0Sl
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Salvation Army just lost any money from me.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 03:14 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:14 PM (Bmy3R)
What a condescending little fucktard. FB is a fad that came and went. MSNBC??? Seriously? Have you seen their ratings? Identity politics? Most of the "young" could care less about politics.
Get a clue Brooks. You're bubble isn't very big.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:14 PM (axyOa)
I think Rush mentioned him a few times, that's the extent of my prior knowledge of the man. I do not know his claim to fame other than "writes in the New York Times"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 03:14 PM (KZzsI)
Unfortunately, I endured too many years of Mr. Brooks' neutering under the auspices of Ms. Woodruff on the Progressive (née Public) Broadcasting System's "PBS NewsHour".
I hope he's not a Poker player because I think I could read every time he delivered his weekly sellout on his face. And I hope he enjoys his time in Judas Goat Hell.
Posted by: 11B40 at November 24, 2021 03:14 PM (uuklp)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2021 03:14 PM (P9T5R)
He's been a fixture at the NYT and on political talking heads show for years. He is touted as the thinking mans Republican.
In reality he is an elitist douchebag who does nothing but look down is nose at us unwashed peasants who make up the conservative base because we deign to actually believe the things we say.
Nobody really believes he's a Republican let alone a conservative. He wears the titles like name tags at work but removes them before attending his next party on the Upper West Side.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (/luV5)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (4VafR)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2021 03:10 PM (cSyAR)
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Sadly, I can picture what he looks like, since he used to appear on the PBS Newshour and I sadly admit to having watched back in the 90s and early 2000s.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 03:12 PM (mZUr4)
Brooks Bros. > Ezra Brooks >>> David Brooks
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:13 PM (wAnMi)
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The Breck girl >>> Brooks Bros. >>> Ezra Brooks >>> David Brooks
Posted by: 496 at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (VJsqe)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 03:13 PM (KZzsI)
Wow, kinda scary and a bit unexpected TBH. I could see a couple of them, but a few strike awfully close to home.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (KZzsI)
As I said to Dan Cathy and Chik-fil-a..."Kiss my white ass and my money goodbye."
I am done forever with you. And I mean forever. I'm stubborn that way.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (Bmy3R)
Why, it's like believing that CRT is taught in schools!
Nonsense!
Posted by: David Brooks! at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (I2/tG)
After his "creased pants" episode in 2008, it is quadruply inexplicable that he is taken seriously at any level, from any quarter. An actual event indistinguishable from parody.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: CN...FJB at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Ladyl at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (+4oV5)
"Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism."
1:23 PM - Nov 24, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3CLY0Sl
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Salvation Army just lost any money from me.
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I have donated $1000s of dollars worth of clothes, furniture, household items to Salvation Army over the years. They will never see one thing from me again.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (OTXUv)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2021 03:14 PM (P9T5R)
He's too late, he'd just be bringing up the rear....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (7bRMQ)
>No. David is the guy who knows more about the pronunciation of the names of exotic candied hams and fancy coldcuts than you.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (BPuaD)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 03:17 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (sVtYq)
When the feds are your single biggest donor, they tell you what to do. Ditto payors when it comes to CMS and medicine.
Posted by: CN...FJB at November 24, 2021 03:18 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:18 PM (Bmy3R)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2021 03:18 PM (cSyAR)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 03:17 PM (KZzsI)
It's all about the benjamins baby
Posted by: CN...FJB at November 24, 2021 03:18 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:18 PM (axyOa)
More word garbage, you dope. Why not spend just a moment to gather a cohesive thought before posting?
Probably because you cannot.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 24, 2021 03:18 PM (MFphb)
Posted by: CN...FJB at November 24, 2021 03:19 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at November 24, 2021 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Lady in Black
Might I suggest your local chapter of Saint Vincent de Paul instead? They are much more charity minded than Goodwill, SA and the like.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 03:19 PM (mD/uy)
"Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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Dennis Prager had mentioned earlier this week that he (and maybe all of the Salem hosts) were not partnering with the Salvation Army for this year's holiday donation drive, since they had gone woke. He didn't give any details but now I see what it was.
They are now dead to me, as well.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 24, 2021 03:19 PM (TNyrE)
"Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism."
1:23 PM - Nov 24, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3CLY0Sl
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Salvation Army just lost any money from me.
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I have donated $1000s of dollars worth of clothes, furniture, household items to Salvation Army over the years. They will never see one thing from me again.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (sVtYq)
Ditto, in fact I have several boxes full of very nice clothes that was meant for them. So disappointing, they were the last remaining decent charity. WTF happened? The white Christians who made the SA what it is, and have helped the poor regardless of circumstance - and now I'm supposed to apologize?
GFY, I'll fucking set all those jackets and coats on fire first.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:19 PM (wAnMi)
But they've certainly lost any direct support.
It's shocking, and not shocking, that the racist idiocy would reach this far. But there's not a single institution of any kind, that I can think of, for which I now have any default respect or deference. None. Another way of saying the populace is degraded beyond recognition.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:19 PM (OTzUX)
I guess Brooks doesn't care about the egregious abuses of power committed by government actors, because it hasn't affected him directly.
Good to know because, when it does, we'll, not my problem.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 24, 2021 03:20 PM (/luV5)
Salvation Army Embraces CRT
"Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism."
1:23 PM - Nov 24, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3CLY0Sl
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Can we haz Chick-fil-A now since the Salvation Army is the debil?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 03:20 PM (OCTRt)
This is basically a tired rephrased recitation of the old Hofstadler formula--the Paranoid Style of American Politics.
Hofstadler wrote it to critique McCarthy and the alleged Red Scare including a certain Richard Nixon. Problem was he did not know that the Venona project more or less discredited his thesis about the kind and gentle Reds that he believed.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 03:20 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 03:17 PM (KZzsI)
Every institution goes leftist over time.
I think they're worming their way in through control of Human Resources departments. By controlling curriculums on one end, and pushing credentialism (IE, every job requires a Bachelor's Degree on the other), they can ensure that it's mostly fellow travelers who get the jobs.
Control HR departments, and you control hiring and firing. It's only a matter of time until you can stack the organization with your people.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 24, 2021 03:21 PM (Msrhc)
"Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism."
1:23 PM - Nov 24, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3CLY0Sl
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Well I guess they don't need my money.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 24, 2021 03:22 PM (VwHCD)
Satan is alive and well.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 03:22 PM (OCTRt)
And those of us who do, don't care.
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 02:53 PM (ZsR3z)
Not even important enough to make someone's must-punch list.
Oh, you know we all have one.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 24, 2021 03:22 PM (MFphb)
Salvation Army Embraces CRT
"Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism."
1:23 PM - Nov 24, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3CLY0Sl
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
I just went to their web site to give them a piece of my mind and, surprise, there's no Contact Us link that allows feedback. Contact Us leads to local Salvation Army outlets which accept donations.
Their web site is dripping with social justice virtue signals. I used to think they were that last up-and-up charitable organization -- used to think.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 24, 2021 03:22 PM (AiZBA)
And for me the Church and anything connected to it is beyond tainted with their fanatical promotion of lawlessness and destruction of US sovereignty. Sorry, you nice folks trying to help (the now overwhelming, hopelessly so) "homeless" downtown and elsewhere. You are associated with things that are producing crime and destruction 10 miles away.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:23 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (KZzsI)
Slightly out of order.
Brooks Robinson >>> all other Brookses!!!!!!!!
https://youtu.be/nG-X4AFbooM
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 03:23 PM (mZUr4)
Well I guess they don't need my money.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 24, 2021 03:22 PM (VwHCD)
They have your tax dollars.
Posted by: CN...FJB at November 24, 2021 03:23 PM (ONvIw)
Maybe you can donate them to Amvets or a local church charity. As long as they don't call me names, that's what I'll do.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:23 PM (Bmy3R)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 03:19 PM (mD/uy)
I also give to them and St. Jude's. Goodwill lost the plot 40 years ago. I remember when they used to take stuff for handicapped people to fix and learn a skill. Before they decided they only wanted shit that could go directly to a store to be sold.
My church does what they can, but it's local community. Maybe I should worry less about spreading the wealth and watching the direct results instead. Very disappointing. Especially considering I know a LOT of lefties here in CA, and they hate SA because Christians hate homos, and that's all there is to it. Good move SA, good move.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:23 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: no 6 at November 24, 2021 03:24 PM (hMlTh)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 03:20 PM
I could be persuaded to look the other way if you buy a peach hate shake.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2021 03:24 PM (m+jkK)
As I said to Dan Cathy and Chik-fil-a..."Kiss my white ass and my money goodbye."
I am done forever with you. And I mean forever. I'm stubborn that way.
Posted by: Guy Smiley
Since Cathy was first to tell SA to piss off, is the boycott over?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 03:24 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:24 PM (SchxB)
The thing about these vapid tendentious political "analyses" is that they're so transparently stupid and untrue.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:25 PM (OTzUX)
Don Draper said it best.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOSdRMSG_k
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:25 PM (OalnH)
Of course Donald Trump ran and governed as a 1980s Dem candidate as president and that made him "extreme right".
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 03:25 PM (ESjRY)
"A real conservative will remain polite until they kill you."
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 24, 2021 03:25 PM (sG88n)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 24, 2021 03:25 PM (Z2Pbf)
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Diamonds to dust
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 24, 2021 03:26 PM (Vxu+H)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:26 PM (axyOa)
You might at least show him a modicum of respect by learning how to spell his name properly.
Or at least you would if you really cared about anything other than white people getting convicted.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:26 PM (KrMCC)
Umm... no. No, not "learning" so much as "expressing." For a very long time, we on the side of normals -- the ones who respect the Founders, law & order, and faith -- have been more or less silent (sometimes grumbling) as we waited for our elected "representatives" to actually represent something we put them in office for. It's only the hard, hard left turn in democrat policies, insults, and repressions that turned our grumbling into rage.
We're still, more or less, the same people we were 20 years ago when we might read a Brooks column with an occasional nod of agreement. We aren't the ones who changed, Dave. The only difference is that post-Trump, we're finding our voices. And people like you dressed us up as bogeymen and are spooked at your own creation.
Posted by: red speck at November 24, 2021 03:26 PM (gS3OW)
Posted by: David Brooks, International Man of Mystery! at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Ironically, one of the common tropes about first wives being disposed of after someone makes their fortune is that the big shot cannot reconcile the first wife with their public image at the time of the split. The wife knows all the faults, frailities, doubts, etc. of the guy before fame came and does not worship the big shot as the deity that they believe themselves to be.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (pA4Ca)
Posted by: David Brooks, International Man of Mystery! at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (sG88n)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (aurj9)
>Dumpster-divers need a little TLC now and again.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 24, 2021 03:28 PM (BPuaD)
Posted by: David Brooks, International Man of Mystery! at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (I2/tG)
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Yes, we do. And that should worry you.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 24, 2021 03:29 PM (/luV5)
I love that we're 18 years after that movie and people don't understand it wasn't an isolated incident.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2021 03:29 PM (jbPJz)
Pharisee French: "Let he who has not enjoyed watching his wife get plowed by strange men throw the first stone!"
Posted by: Thrawn at November 24, 2021 03:08 PM (Rl7KJ)
Some might enjoy watching their ex-wives get plowed. By an SUV at 80mph.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at November 24, 2021 03:29 PM (II3Gr)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 03:29 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (aurj9)
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At NYT on the leftist scale of 0-100 everyone is a 97 and up. Brooksie is a 91. Hence "conservative".
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:29 PM (OalnH)
I sincerely doubt that every single person involved believes this crap.
I won't write any more checks to the corporate organization, but will likely still donate to my local group. They do a lot of good around here.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:29 PM (KrMCC)
Control HR departments, and you control hiring and firing. It's only a matter of time until you can stack the organization with your people.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 24, 2021
The credentialism goes deeper than just having a degree. In the IT world companies have for years required certification and years of use for simple jobs and for software that is brand new in the market. A lot of times it is used to push older workers out of the company and bring in H1B1 visa holders at a substantial lower pay rate.
Posted by: Rittenhouse Rye Whiskey Company at November 24, 2021 03:29 PM (KTaZ8)
NO.
I'll darken the door of a CfA the day I wash the feet of black people as Dan Cathy commanded me to. As in, never. Fk them. With a pineapple, sideways.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:30 PM (Bmy3R)
"Of course Donald Trump ran and governed as a 1980s Dem candidate as president and that made him "extreme right"."
Possibly even a *1990s* Democrat. Check his border security/illegal migration statements (not actual policies, mind you) with Clinton's, in office, and on the campaign trail. Zero daylight.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:30 PM (OTzUX)
For 40 years the debate on abortion has centered on pro-lifers believing you are depriving an unborn child his/her right to life, and the pro-abortion side arguing "my body my choice".
The pro-abortion argument has won and been essentially enshrined in the constitution.
Yet a few months ago the left decided they wanted everyone to get the clot shot. They didn't want to bother convincing people it was in their interest - instead overnight, the maxim became "your body my choice" - because you don't have the right to harm me...even if that harm is completely theoretical.
And I'm expect to...just accept this as normal politics?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 03:30 PM (ESjRY)
Branca thinks they have grounds for an appeal - maybe. It's not guaranteed; right now they're all looking at spending most of the rest of their lives in prison.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 03:30 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 03:27 PM (9hXN1)
And sometimes she's usually a bit big and or plain looking. Heroes must have hot wives!!!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 24, 2021 03:30 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Beartooth at November 24, 2021 03:31 PM (KTaZ8)
Vendors like MSFT make a ton of money from the cert business. Then there are all the companies that provide training for the certs. It's all one giant grift.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:31 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 24, 2021 03:22 PM (AiZBA)
I can see the "LGBTQ" support thing - mostly because as I mentioned all the gays refuse to give to SA because Christians hate homos. I have literally heard this. Of course, they have no idea about Christians. This whole apology thing is beyond the pale. I noticed the changes taking place several months ago - I was trying to get a pickup scheduled and assumed once the lockdown ended they'd resume. No, covid is still stopping them - no matter what zip code I enter. But I can come drop it off at some place 30 miles away! Gee, thanks. But, I don't want to rent a pick up truck. I have 5 wardrobe boxes.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:32 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 24, 2021 03:32 PM (tPUfk)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2021 03:26 PM (axyOa)
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It's as if there are no poor people. ... or
Poor people are so well subsidized that usable goods that the poor would once be glad to own are now trash.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 03:32 PM (aurj9)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:32 PM (Bmy3R)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:32 PM (OTzUX)
Our side has this problem where perfect is the enemy of the good. And the media is able to convince cucks that THIS Republican is beyond the pale.
Posted by: Blago at November 24, 2021 03:32 PM (8RdDn)
It's quite a fascinating story. I don't know how to get this to one of the Overnight thread COBs, because a man like this deserves more attention and recognition.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 24, 2021 03:33 PM (a/dOO)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:33 PM (OalnH)
Madness.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 24, 2021 03:33 PM (oHd/0)
NO.
I'll darken the door of a CfA the day I wash the feet of black people as Dan Cathy commanded me to. As in, never. Fk them. With a pineapple, sideways.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:30 PM (Bmy3R)
What did chick fil a do? I know some morons are pissed at them - it's never been an issue for me because I've never laid eyes on one except far, far away. And fast food is usually not high on my list unless I'm on the road and starving.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:33 PM (wAnMi)
So you're telling me if you're in church during this particular event, and someone in your congregations is black, you wouldn't wash their feet?
Seriously?!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:34 PM (KrMCC)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 24, 2021 03:34 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: redridinghood at November 24, 2021 01:50 PM (NpAcC)
Trump is the Summer President.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 24, 2021 03:35 PM (44ww/)
Christianity being institutionally racist?
This doesn't smell right.
Posted by: Furious George at November 24, 2021 03:35 PM (9vQJW)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:35 PM (OalnH)
So you're telling me if you're in church during this particular event, and someone in your congregations is black, you wouldn't wash their feet?
Seriously?!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:34 PM (KrMCC)
There's way more money in just lopping them off.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at November 24, 2021 03:35 PM (II3Gr)
Meanwhile John Milius' daughter tore him a new asshole, so maybe he can talk to the pussies about that.
David Brooks is what the Jobs widow thinks a conservative should be.
Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at November 24, 2021 03:35 PM (G7H1z)
So to ensure 5% more people will give you stuff, you will piss of about 50% of people who are tired of the BS.
Real good marketing stratergery there folks.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 24, 2021 03:35 PM (oHd/0)
Had to ferret them out but in little nooks here and there, there they are. Terms such as 'thrift store' _your town, will result in a yellow page listing.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 03:35 PM (aurj9)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:33 PM (OalnH)
And the other message is that if your tight little neighborhood is being plagued by marauders, you should shoot, shovel, and shut up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 03:36 PM (P3gRi)
Of course Donald Trump ran and governed as a 1980s Dem candidate as president and that made him "extreme right".
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 03:25 PM (ESjRY)
"Set back" is the wrong kind of phrasing to use, IMHO. It plays into the enemy's delusions of being an inevitable future, and us being agents of a despicable past.
We must be clear that we do not intend to set things back, but to set things *right*. America has never been perfect, and we have always acknowledged this. On the reverse of the Great Seal is another symbol - the Unfinished Pyramid.
We are a work in progress, and we must communicate our intent quite clearly, to continue this work, to continue setting things right, as we have since our founding. Our goal is not to return to some rose-tinted vision of the past, but to make those dreams of yesteryear, of a freer, more prosperous, more equal America into a reality.
To leave the errors of our past in the past, and carry the best of our nature and founding intent forward; to build the city on the hill.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 24, 2021 03:36 PM (Msrhc)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:32 PM (OTzUX)
I stopped giving to them.
Luckily I found a marvelous thrift store that funds its charitable works via sales, so they are getting my donatable stuff. The best part is the conversations I have with the director, who came late to Judaism and has the fire of the newly converted in him. He's also an out-and-proud conservative who understood exactly what I meant when I said that all Jews should own firearms!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2021 03:36 PM (Q9lwr)
The usual pattern - he supported Deep Stater George W. Bush (Brooks was a big supporter of the Iraq War), and hasn't supported a Republican Presidential candidate since.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 03:36 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Goliad's Ghosts at November 24, 2021 03:36 PM (oWBc3)
Posted by: rhomboid
Believe me, I hear it or read it all the time by people that should know better. Pretty soon, it will be clap for Stalin time and the first to stop gets a bullet. At the same time, the most dangerous thing to be during a time of immense popular dissatisfaction is to be the apologists for a tyrannical regime. Being the 'face' of the regime, the propagandists often fare far worse and have to flee for their lives or face the consequences when the regime falls.
So maybe Brooks' concern is for himself and not for the country as a whole.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 03:36 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:37 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Goliad's Ghosts at November 24, 2021 03:36 PM (oWBc3)
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If the po-po asks, say you were having gay sex without a mask.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:37 PM (OalnH)
No.
I am conflicted about the verdict, but I think the message is more like maybe you don't need to bring a gun to question someone about a non-violent crime on property that you do not own.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:37 PM (KrMCC)
Poor people are so well subsidized that usable goods that the poor would once be glad to own are now trash.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 03:32 PM (aurj9)
Dingdingding!
There's the winner.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 24, 2021 03:38 PM (MFphb)
That's not what he said and you know it. Stop it. You know better than that.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:38 PM (Bmy3R)
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Exactly.
In the case of abortion, the woman's bodily autonomy is the only issue, because her decision can't conceivably harm anybody else.
Whereas your choice not to get vaccinated could lead to you getting seriously ill and occupying a hospital bed, which could end up forcing me to have life-saving heart surgery performed in a back alley with a wire hanger. It's basically the unvaccinated murdering the vaccinated, is what it is.
Posted by: NPC Yard Sign at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (sGnvY)
The wife doesn't get the tingles anymore, and being "good" liberal men the guy starts visiting the local, um, "Asian massage parlor"
And the two grow to be roommates at best...people that despise each other at worst. Living in a blue state now I see why these people hate EVERYONE.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (KrMCC)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (K3ZCc)
I gave them $150 just last week, to spite the work Karens.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (XvPQV)
Vendors like MSFT make a ton of money from the cert business. Then there are all the companies that provide training for the certs. It's all one giant grift.
This is true. I've held several certs over the years, none of them got me a raise or a better job.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (SchxB)
Maybe posers attending the "National Conservatives Conference" were not Conservative.
Send him an invite to the TxMoMe next year.
Feed him to the armadillos.
Posted by: Golfman at November 24, 2021 03:40 PM (hOMhY)
Posted by: Rittenhouse Rye Whiskey Company at November 24, 2021 03:29 PM (KTaZ
I recall reading about a case a few months back where someone posted a job requiring 10 years experience in a particular programming language.
The guy who invented the language thought it was funny, applied, and was declined for lack of experience.
The language had only (at that point) existed for six years.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 24, 2021 03:40 PM (Msrhc)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:40 PM (OalnH)
I gave them $150 just last week, to spite the work Karens.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (XvPQV)
Yeah, I'd see about getting that money back...
Posted by: Nova local at November 24, 2021 03:41 PM (exHjb)
One of the great successes of Christianity is spreading the idea of the brotherhood of man.
Prior to that most societies were organized on tribal or racial structure.
So...to call Christianity racist is...insane.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 03:41 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: OrangeEnt
See Bezos for the counter example. You see something similar with wives because of hypergamy.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 03:41 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:41 PM (SchxB)
This is true. I've held several certs over the years, none of them got me a raise or a better job.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (SchxB)
I had two certs that kept me employed for almost 10 years... MCSE plus Microsoft Certified Trainer.... LOL
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 24, 2021 03:41 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (SchxB)
The company I used to work for would give you a token raise if you got the cert, but it didn't really do anything for you otherwise.
As a result, few people were interested in chasing them, given the hassles.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (Msrhc)
Had to ferret them out but in little nooks here and there, there they are. Terms such as 'thrift store' _your town, will result in a yellow page listing.
Posted by: Braenyard
Also - seek out like minded small restaurant owners for charity. There's one near me. I slide her $500 or so a year (as do a few others). The place is in a shit end of town and she will not turn away a hungry person with no dough. Today she serves Thanksgiving to all, no charge.
She doesn't have much, so I'm happy to work much of my charity through her.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (mD/uy)
in fairness, that is rufies for you
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (K3ZCc)
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Either that or Jesus was black. Give us a minute and we'll find an angle that works here.
Posted by: NPC Yard Sign at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (sGnvY)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:37 PM (K3ZCc)
That alone makes him worthy of a tire fire pyre.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (VwHCD)
Madness.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 24, 2021 03:33 PM (oHd/0)
I bet you could watch a dozen local news pieces on this, and not a one will mention your home is part of the mandate. The Karen's freaked when the mandate was lifted, but now the actual residents are voicing their disgust. The only place you'll find about the mandate being in your home is if you live in the area, or look at RT or DM for the real skinny. https://tinyurl.com/2bjyrtue
Just the start, they'll punish us all for even thinking about a Newsom recall.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (us2H3)
that is not a fact that accounts for the serial divorce ers
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:43 PM (K3ZCc)
I can't tell you how disappointed I am to see that the SA has gone woke. I gave to you in the past, both in kettles and to your HQ, but that is now a thing of the past. It's a pity that you put virtue signaling above your mission. I'm white, so I guess it's not surprising that I'm an unreasonable bigot.
I hope it was worth it to you. It certainly won't be to those you're supposed to help.
Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 03:43 PM (ZsR3z)
As a result, few people were interested in chasing them, given the hassles.
I look at people with a lot of certs and always have the same question. When did they have time to work?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:43 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 03:43 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:43 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:44 PM (K3ZCc)
I gave them $150 just last week, to spite the work Karens.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM
I usually give them between $500 and $1000 per year. I have nothing to make a "sincere apology" for.
Fuck them.
Posted by: Chuck C at November 24, 2021 03:44 PM (EughT)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:44 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Maskless LeBron James sucker punching other BBall players at November 24, 2021 03:44 PM (ESjRY)
She doesn't have much, so I'm happy to work much of my charity through her.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (mD/uy)
Thats exactly who you want to donate to.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 24, 2021 03:45 PM (VwHCD)
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 03:43 PM (us2H3)
Cuz' nobody would wear masks.
Posted by: Roy at November 24, 2021 03:45 PM (Ti+Tv)
nah, just make him live with the dillers for a year
he will come out with leprosy
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 03:45 PM (us2H3)
#1 Arkansas
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Nevada (surprised that isn't #1)
Lowest
#1 California
#2 Wisconsin
#3 Massachusetts
#4 New Jersey
So yeah pretty much the exact opposite of what you said 18-1.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:45 PM (OalnH)
She doesn't have much, so I'm happy to work much of my charity through her.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 03:42 PM (mD/uy)
My kids and I have done holiday pies for the homebound parishioners (Thanksgiving and Valentine's Day) the last 2 years - it's really nice to give back directly to those who need it or who just need their day made. We have done the allergy pies so those who can't have lactose, dairy, or nuts can still ask for one - a former deacon finally got to have a pie that way...
Posted by: Nova local at November 24, 2021 03:46 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:37 PM (KrMCC)
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At what point in time did they call 911?
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 03:46 PM (aurj9)
Posted by: Roy at November 24, 2021 03:45 PM (Ti+Tv)
man, this guy gets it
*facepalm*
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 03:46 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:46 PM (K3ZCc)
Old stats, actually divorce rates are declining; perhaps bad economic times or the fact that less people are getting married in the first place. The old 5.2 per 1000 in 1980 is now only 2.9 per 1000 in 2020
It is a certain generation that married from 1960 to 1980 that has a tremendously elevated divorce rate compared to before and after it.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 03:46 PM (9hXN1)
To be clear the people I know aren't divorced. They are banging people on the side and married in name only...but they aren't divorced.
Perhaps they handle that part differently in AK and OK?
Posted by: Maskless LeBron James sucker punching other BBall players at November 24, 2021 03:47 PM (ESjRY)
Harris County had 916k votes for Handsy Uncle Joe.
I bet greater than 50k will be fake voters and fake registrations.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 24, 2021 03:47 PM (yrol0)
Whereas your choice not to get vaccinated could lead to you getting seriously ill and occupying a hospital bed, which could end up forcing me to have life-saving heart surgery performed in a back alley with a wire hanger. It's basically the unvaccinated murdering the vaccinated, is what it is.
Posted by: NPC Yard Sign at November 24, 2021 03:39 PM (sGnvY)
Some prog on FB blubbered that her friend had congestive heart failure but couldn't get into the ER because it was full of people with COVID and her friend was going to die because of you anti-vaxxers.
I stopped myself, but I wanted to ask where her friend was located. Wherever it was, it would have been interesting to go to the health department of the county or look at the local news to see whether there were mountains of dead due to COVID there.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 03:47 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:47 PM (SchxB)
Call me a bad Conservative, but I don't see how me making up care packages and them delivering it to the local nursing home benefits the woke SA directly.
As I said, I won't give the national association any more money ( it's my mother's favorite charity, because for several years, the only thing they ever got for Christmas during her childhood was from the SA) but I'll be damned if I quit adopting old folks locally because of the asinine leaders.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:47 PM (KrMCC)
https://tinyurl.com/2j9huv47
I was hoping this would be a false alarm, but the first two "sessions" are the full CRT program, with some Christian boilerplate at the beginning and end.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 24, 2021 03:48 PM (sGnvY)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:45 PM (OalnH)
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Could the cost of divorce influence those stats?
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 03:48 PM (aurj9)
Haven't watched USA Network for years anyways.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:47 PM (SchxB)
That was NIGHT Flight, Night Flight...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 03:48 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Frank Luntz at November 24, 2021 03:48 PM (DiVy8)
Posted by: Maskless LeBron James sucker punching other BBall players at November 24, 2021 03:47 PM (ESjRY)
In AK, they just put the unwanted spouse on an ice floe.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 03:48 PM (P3gRi)
#1 California
#2 Wisconsin
#3 Massachusetts
#4 New Jersey
So yeah pretty much the exact opposite of what you said 18-1.
Posted by: Jo
or, is it that nobody in those big urban cities ever gets married? they have baby daddies and mommys instead?
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (SchxB)
He believes in Tinkerbell too!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 03:41 PM (9hXN1)
Well, sometimes money pays for a lot of ooogly....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (7bRMQ)
The left: Let's fire 30% of the health care workers because they won't get the clot shot. F*ck them!
Also the left: OMGAWARD there aren't enough health care workers to do my rhinoplasty, uhh...my heart surgery because of the COVIDS!!!! ELEVENTY!!!
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at November 24, 2021 03:07
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Caught that.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (Wmlmm)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 03:50 PM (mD/uy)
Call me a bad Conservative, but I don't see how me making up care packages and them delivering it to the local nursing home benefits the woke SA directly."
You can probably do that directly by calling the homes, or indirectly through your local Church and bypass SA entirely...
Posted by: Nova local at November 24, 2021 03:50 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 03:43 PM
Bad weather in Atlanta?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2021 03:50 PM (m+jkK)
Christianity being institutionally racist?
This doesn't smell right.
Posted by: Furious George at November 24, 2021 03:35 PM (9vQJW)
Here you go. You have to scroll down to get to the Let's Talk About Racism download link. I don't feel like reading the whole thing, myself.
https://is.gd/ZN1ETP
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2021 03:50 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 24, 2021 03:51 PM (pJWtt)
Posted by: Immigration candidate from India at November 24, 2021 03:51 PM (jYQlA)
thought maybe he would burst into flames if the sunlight hit him.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:51 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 24, 2021 03:18 PM (Bmy3R)
The problem is that the people ringing bells are usually people trying to dig out of drug and alcohol addiction, and this is an actual job they can get hired to do. No one listens to them, they have no voice and they have no contact with decision makers.
Please just leave them alone.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2021 03:51 PM (P9T5R)
Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2021 03:52 PM (2JoB8)
#1 California
#2 Wisconsin
#3 Massachusetts
#4 New Jersey
So yeah pretty much the exact opposite of what you said 18-1.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 24, 2021 03:45 PM (OalnH)
I have, how you say, a lot of clients there.
Posted by: The Paolo at November 24, 2021 03:52 PM (7bRMQ)
thought maybe he would burst into flames if the sunlight hit him.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:51 PM (K3ZCc)
There is no sunlight in Mom's basement.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 24, 2021 03:52 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 03:37 PM (KrMCC)
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At what point in time did they call 911?
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 03:46 PM (aurj9)
Arbery Verdict: I'm only surprised that so many people are surprised - the facts of this case are radically different than in the Rittenhouse trial. In the Rittenhouse trial, his attackers chased him down and Kyle tried to get away, only shooting when he had no choice. In this trial, these three chased the dead man down and shot him.. They claimed they were making a citizens arrest, but clearly the Jury didn't buy it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 03:52 PM (trdmm)
that's the response
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 03:53 PM (us2H3)
There is no sunlight in Mom's basement.
Posted by: R
but there is qdpsteve chained nakd to a radiator under a cold shower
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:53 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Dr. Mabusette at November 24, 2021 03:54 PM (UIre9)
Posted by: The Fucking Salvation Army at November 24, 2021 03:54 PM (sGnvY)
Posted by: Bill Withers at November 24, 2021 03:54 PM (PiwSw)
Looking at the 2009 data the red states have much higher marriage rates then the blue ones. Looking at the 2019 data it is only marginally higher and...that's because they've had a higher divorce rate and are therefore "catching up"
Which is interesting. So I guess the blue state couples I see hating each other are what passes for a successful marriage around here?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 03:54 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (K3ZCc)
^this
When Cali leads in stats....
Posted by: Golfman at November 24, 2021 03:54 PM (hOMhY)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 03:54 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 03:52 PM (trdmm)
In WA, it is lawful to use deadly force against a fleeing felon, subject to the statutory requirements. It would not be smart to test this out in WA.
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 03:55 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:55 PM (K3ZCc)
Link goes to the Hive Law Firm website
https://tinyurl.com/et3feds3
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 03:55 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 03:52 PM (trdmm)
Thye didn't chases him down to shoot him. They tried to apprehend him, and he ran around the truck, and grabbed the barrel of the one dude's shotgun.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 03:56 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2021 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)
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For the record, I grew up on the Upper West Side long before Jerry Seinfeld made it fashionable.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 24, 2021 03:56 PM (7b2L9)
Posted by: T
there is that thing about ow the judge fuckd the defendants right before it went to jury by reinterpreting the statute, instead of doing so at the beginning of the trial
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:56 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 03:55 PM (SH2Zi)
He was not a fleeing "Felon"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 24, 2021 03:56 PM (Irn0L)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 24, 2021 03:56 PM (Irn0L)
I know. Just illustrating the point: Just because you can do something "lawful," it does not make it a good idea.
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 03:57 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by:
in fairness, just because something is unlawful does not mean it is not a good idea either
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:58 PM (K3ZCc)
You've got some pretty twisted sexual fantasies.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 03:58 PM (SchxB)
He lives his life on Twitter. And this describes 99.999% of the screamers on Twitter.
Posted by: G. Gnome will not comply at November 24, 2021 03:59 PM (OQcPl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 24, 2021 03:59 PM (3EWns)
https://bit.ly/3HRj2Tf
Old and busted: Readin' 'Ritin' and 'Rithmetic
New and shiny: Perverting children, Protecting perverts, and Perverting children (They like perverting children.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 24, 2021 03:59 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 03:57 PM (SH2Zi)
Also notable, ever since most of the sodomy laws have been rescinded.
Posted by: Roy at November 24, 2021 03:59 PM (Ti+Tv)
So, whatever happens at a conservative conference, it might be mildly interesting, but it is not on the path of turning the culture around.
Posted by: Fal Phil at November 24, 2021 03:59 PM (gZejh)
He believes in Tinkerbell too!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 24, 2021 03:49 PM (yrol0)
He believes that Covid had nothing to do with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and that it has nothing to do with the gain of function research he was funding there.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2021 03:59 PM (P9T5R)
Posted by: B
you have missed some of the interactins that qdp has had with the cobs
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:59 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 03:55 PM (SH2Zi)
Don't know about WA's statute, but the problem with Georgia's Citizen Arrest Statute (badly written and now repealed) is that it appears to require someone to actually witness the alleged felony personally in order to pursue and/or use force. This trio did not see Arbery doing anything; someone called them on the phone and told them they thought he had done something. Jury apparently that was not enough of an excuse to justify their subsequent actions.
Also, remeber the issue of Provocation in the Rittenhouse trial? Kyle was able to prove that he *never* did anything to provoke his attackers. However, in the Arbery case, the trio of defendants created the entire situation and went out of their way to provoke a confrontation - I think that more than anything else is why they're headed for very long prison terms.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (trdmm)
Please just leave them alone.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2021 03:51 PM (P9T5R)
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There are negative things about the Salvation Army
HOWEVER, they do take druggies and other abused people in and provide shelter, counseling and help them improve themselves. They must stay clean while there.
They also help them transition into the real world.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (aurj9)
Posted by: OrangeEnt
For elites, as always, a lot of about spousal choice is what their particular strata of society finds acceptable until they do not care about it anymore probably because their social position is set for life. Thus, Liz Taylor found her a blue collar guy for one of her later marriages and so on.
Males and females, have different mating strategies which can affect who they choose obviously.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (9hXN1)
I've had an argument along these lines with many liberals over the years - that something is a bad idea, but still should be legal.
Their argument is essentially why should the government allow you to do something bad for you. And it gets interesting if you point out things like gay anonymous sex or drug use is bad for you they...just deny it.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by:
rittenhouse
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: klaftern at November 24, 2021 04:01 PM (taPSh)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (P3gRi)
As Perry Mason might say, immaterial and irrelevant to the case.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 04:01 PM (trdmm)
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Sumbitch brought a skatsboard to a gun fight.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 24, 2021 04:01 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Al
do you mean that day or when his ancestors were sold into slavery by his other ancestors and brought here as slaves
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 04:02 PM (K3ZCc)
And this is something very important to discuss with any younger relatives you end up talking with about life and love.
You'd be amazed how many of them have been told this isn't true.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 04:02 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 04:02 PM (9HRiP)
Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat and Rino Rat Bastards at November 24, 2021 04:02 PM (5DfsO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 24, 2021 04:02 PM (3EWns)
Posted by: no 6 at November 24, 2021 04:03 PM (hMlTh)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (trdmm)
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Video of them chasing him down with a pick up didn't help. Looked like a crew rabbit hunting.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 04:03 PM (aurj9)
You missed that you left a straight line laying out in the open. I just happened to be the one to pick it up and use it.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 24, 2021 04:03 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: mrp at November 24, 2021 04:03 PM (6eRlp)
HOWEVER, they do take druggies and other abused people in and provide shelter, counseling and help them improve themselves. They must stay clean while there.
That won't continue much longer. When an organization gives away its essential motivating characteristic, the results will not remain the same. Watch, and you'll see their "emphasis" starting to change. Instead of helping down and outs to get and stay clean, the siren song of transforming people through wokeness will begin to lure them away from that old-fashioned cause. And the only reason they were successful at helping drug and alcohol addicts was their faith in God. Now that that's trickling away, their effectiveness will too. Let the dead bury the dead, and don't waste time on them anymore.
Posted by: Dr. Mabusette at November 24, 2021 04:03 PM (UIre9)
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 04:04 PM (us2H3)
We've had 60 years of every committed leftist in any org pushing it left, and every normie just trying to do their job. And...what we see now is the natural outcome of that activity on both sides.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 04:04 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: B
you must be new here? there was no straight line there and none that you availd yourseld of, there was no phrasing or similar there
but have fun
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 04:04 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 24, 2021 04:02 PM (3EWns)
No, thankfully
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 04:04 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 04:04 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (9hXN1)
Men: T&A Women: Wallet
Posted by: The Paolo at November 24, 2021 04:05 PM (7bRMQ)
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Robin Hood, like Jesse James, stole from the conquerers and returned it to the conquered.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 24, 2021 04:05 PM (OTXUv)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 24, 2021 04:02 PM (3EWns)
No, thankfully
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 04:04 PM (XvPQV)
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It came to TubiTV, so I checked it out. Bleh. Nothing worth getting angry about, but the financial failure tickled me still.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 24, 2021 04:05 PM (3EWns)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 03:56 PM (P3gRi)
It's the issue of Provocation, just like came up in the Rittenhouse trial. If they jury decided that they provoked the confrontation that led to the fatal moment, then their self defense claim is nullified and they are guilty of murder.
You can't bait someone into attacking you and then claim you had to kill them because they attacked you. Now Arbery had anger issues, and was stupid - so he's dead, and these three get to spend most of the rest of their lives in prison.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 04:05 PM (trdmm)
thought maybe he would burst into flames if the sunlight hit him.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 03:51 PM (K3ZCc)
he sparkles...
Posted by: carlos mencia at November 24, 2021 04:06 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (trdmm)
Touchstone is aiding an officer, where you are basically acting as a proxy. I still don't think that I would, even if all other circumstances were met. Not my circus, not my clowns.
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 04:06 PM (SH2Zi)
You can't bait someone into attacking you and then claim you had to kill them because they attacked you. Now Arbery had anger issues, and was stupid - so he's dead, and these three get to spend most of the rest of their lives in prison.
Posted by: T
That is not what happened and not how it works either
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 04:06 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 04:01 PM (trdmm)
No, I would say it's not. If he was on foot, with no prospect of cathing a ride, they could have simply followed him along, while keeping the 911 operator in the loop. And if he boarded a bus, they tell 911 which bus, and what route. But if he had a car stashed on the periphery, he could have made a clean getaway. I would say the cowboys were trying to do the right thing, but it went sideways when Arbery turned on them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 04:06 PM (P3gRi)
Salvation Army!
Put a nickel in the cup,
buy another drunk a drink
Salvation Ar-ar-my!
Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2021 04:06 PM (AMIL/)
Currently, about 10% of the hospital beds and 15% of the ICU beds in Oregon are occupied by patients that have Covid.
No matter - the unvaccinated are killing people who can't get hospital care, by "flooding the hospitals" with Covid patients.
Oregon's policy of deliberately limiting the number of hospital beds (to save costs) has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 04:08 PM (I2/tG)
One of the most common reasons for overturning a verdict for a new trial is judge's instructions. Given the statute itself can be read in two different ways--one favoring the defense and one favoring the prosecution, it is a matter of judicial interpretation which interpretation is proper. The caselaw itself is muddled as it was a very old statute but Georgia precedent forbids using a living statutory interpretation method but instead bases its rulings on original intent and what the legislature intended.
There was also the problem that the Prosecutor told the jury the wrong burden of proof in closing and the judge apparently did not issue any corrective instructions. That alone could be considered a fatal error. After sentencing, the defendants will get their appeal and we will see in a year or two about the results of that appeal.
The jury verdict itself can be understood in the cautionary language of don't go looking for confrontation. In Texas, a guy relied on his mistaken understanding of stand your ground doctrine by videotaping his encounter with neighbors playing loud music and irritating him repeatedly. He was convicted.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 04:08 PM (9hXN1)
HOWEVER, they do take druggies and other abused people in and provide shelter, counseling and help them improve themselves. They must stay clean while there.
They also help them transition into the real world.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 04:00 PM (aurj9)
I almost always give to the bell ringers, and *always* have something nice to say to them. My concern is what happens if the woke works its way down. Are they going to start quotas? No, too many white guys this month, can't help you? It's disturbing AF when the clowns at the top suddenly lose the plot. They can undo the good it's taken over a century to build. They're already hated by the left, do they think this is going to help them? Because it ain't.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 04:09 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 04:06 PM (K3ZCc)
I would point out that the Jury just said "yes, this is how it works."
Branca thinks they have grounds to appeal, but I doubt it will be successful.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 04:09 PM (trdmm)
Branca thinks they have grounds to appeal, but I doubt it will be successful.
Posted by: T
you have misunderstood morE things than I thought
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 04:12 PM (K3ZCc)
They looked like rabbit hunters to me.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 04:12 PM (aurj9)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 24, 2021 04:05 PM (3EWns)
I love the streaming services that show either the IMDB score, or rotten tomatoes/metacritic ratings. Except, when they don't. That's always a warning sign - ESPECIALLY when it's a movie on IMDB! Hmm, IMDB isn't even giving their own score on a movie they're streaming? Then I make a bet with myself the over/under, and check it. Usually, it's a 2.3 or thereabouts. I honestly had no idea there were so many terrible movies coming out of hollywood, some with big names.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 04:12 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 24, 2021 04:05 PM (3EWns)
I do have increasingly mixed feelings about V for Vendetta. I went from disliking it to thinking 'maybe V has a point'
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 04:14 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 24, 2021 04:12 PM (aurj9)
Duck hunters
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 04:14 PM (XvPQV)
you have misunderstood morE things than I thought
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 04:12 PM (K3ZCc)
just don't adopt those three as role models for your personal actions.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 04:15 PM (trdmm)
Went out of their way to support BLM publicly
HOWEVER, they do take druggies and other abused people in and provide shelter, counseling and help them improve themselves. They must stay clean while there.
Expect that to change with their new, woke leadership.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 04:16 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 04:14 PM (XvPQV)
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I have always felt like V had a point. Governments should be afraid of its people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 24, 2021 04:17 PM (3EWns)
Let's watch as my friend Jim Fowler enters the dangerous lair of the Modern Conservative, colloquially known as a "hotel lounge".
Posted by: Zombie Marlon Perkins at November 24, 2021 04:17 PM (n+4am)
The local churches do it in person. It embarrasses me to give the gifts directly, I can't explain it, but there is just something about it that makes me uncomfortable. I prefer to do it anonymously.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 04:17 PM (KrMCC)
Posted by: Tom Servo
BTW, that is an example of media distortion, back in the day, it was understood that they were two different objections at the time.
Immaterial objections have been folded into relevance objections in most jurisdictions.
Immaterial meant that the evidence provided was not material to deciding the questions of fact in the case. So a prior conviction for fraud was not material as to whether the defendant committed murder (and yes I know character evidence rules apply now).
Relevance was simply why should the jury or anyone care about the testimony provided as in time wasting (such as the witness's belief that Cadillacs were better than Lincolns where the case involved Chevrolets and Buicks.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 04:18 PM (9hXN1)
https://tinyurl.com/w6vbuuzf
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 04:18 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 04:19 PM (OCTRt)
1:23 PM - Nov 24, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3CLY0Sl
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Salvation Army just lost any money from me.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2021 03:14 PM (OCTRt)
I ended up going to the Salvation Army ISJC website (https://www.salvationarmy.org/isjc/think).
The good news is that they don't seem to be explicitly asking Whites to apologize for their racism, and certainly doesn't say that Christianity is institutionally racist. What they do seem to say is that the Church had some racist practices in the past, and that the Church has to work toward social justice. The bad news is that the ISJC has completely bought into Wokeism, and the book White Fragility is on their recommended list. They also embrace Jim Wallis, who is at the vanguard of the leftist evangelical movement.
It's a shame. I gave to them when Chick-Fil-A went Woke, only to see that they have as well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 04:20 PM (/E/BW)
After his "creased pants" episode in 2008, it is quadruply inexplicable that he is taken seriously at any level, from any quarter. An actual event indistinguishable from parody.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2021 03:16 PM (OTzUX)
He isn't.
And like Goldberg and Krystol and that ilk, that is what is galling. They get their dosh because they tout that they can guide conservatism into safe channels, and it is dangerous for it to be known that they can't.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 04:21 PM (eoQWY)
They're buying into collective and racial guilt bullshit and its wrong no matter how they try to shape it. Whatever someone did is not my fault or mine to apologize for. Whatever a group I belong to did before I was even a part of it is not mine to apologize for or feel guilt for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 04:22 PM (KZzsI)
https://tinyurl.com/w6vbuuzf
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 04:18 PM (KZzsI)
Pravdapedia here we come...or are.
Orwell knew it in the 30s with the editing of the past.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 04:23 PM (eoQWY)
https://tinyurl.com/ThePaolo
Posted by: Loki at November 24, 2021 04:24 PM (ZW1rs)
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 04:09 PM (wAnMi)
When it works its way down, they won't have bell ringers anymore. No leftist wants to do that.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 04:25 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: mrp at November 24, 2021 04:03 PM (6eRlp)
absolutely nowhere unless his masters tell him otherwise.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 04:26 PM (eoQWY)
They're buying into collective and racial guilt bullshit and its wrong no matter how they try to shape it. Whatever someone did is not my fault or mine to apologize for. Whatever a group I belong to did before I was even a part of it is not mine to apologize for or feel guilt for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 04:22 PM (KZzsI)
Your phrasing of this issue reminded me of something. Today, all mainstream Christians completely reject the concept of Jewish collective guilt for killing Jesus Christ as heretical, anti-Semitic, and just plain stupidly wrong. If that's the case, why is the Church taking this collective guilt upon itself now?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 04:28 PM (/E/BW)
And I'm expect to...just accept this as normal politics?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2021 03:30 PM (ESjRY)
Once you start to deny reality and cover it up with verbisms, there are no barriers left at all any more.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 04:32 PM (eoQWY)
Hey rick, if you don't care about what is going on or want to be involved in boycotting something, that's fine. But why mock people who see a problem and are angry enough to act on it?
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