Gun Thread: Not Guilty Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Well this has been a great week. I spent a few halfway productive days at the farm, and the jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial came back with the best of all possible verdicts; a big, fat collection of not guiltys. Apparently, at least in Kenosha, Wisconsin, the system is sort of still working. The fact the charges were brought in the first place is more than a little troubling, but I will take the result of the ensuing trial any day.

With that, let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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Q: Has Weasel said everything he wanted to say about the Rittenhouse trial?
A: No, no Weasel has not said everything he wanted to say regarding the Rittenhouse trial.

We discussed this some last week and I cannot recall who mentioned they thought it problematic to a televise a criminal trial. I happen to agree with the sentiment, if for no other reason than the addition of this element to the proceedings usually has the effect of turning them into a circus. If you have a legitimate personal interest in what is going on, then buy a bus ticket and head for the courthouse.

Having said that, as long as these things are televised, then we might as well get some good out of them. Back in the days of courtroom sketch artists and print coverage, the potential still existed for bias in reporting and political grandstanding, we just didn't have the opportunity to see it with our own eyes and to form our own opinions. In that regard, I suppose the the ability to watch a good thing, and in this case it allowed us to witness first-hand the prosecutorial overreach and disregard for the defendant's constitutional rights.

During the testimony and deliberations I tuned into the Rekieta Law live stream on YouTube periodically, and have to say I found the analysis by the panel of attorneys to be most interesting and enlightening. Chiefly among them was our own pal and sometimes Gun Thread commenter Andrew Branca, Attorney and author of the book The Law of Self-Defense, which Mr. Branca is currently offering for FREE if you pay for shipping.

Free is a very good price-point, and I encourage you to order a copy and study it. I have said this before, but if you have to shoot someone in self-defense, your troubles are only getting started. It's likely to be both financially and emotionally ruinous for you and your family, and you need to know the law in advance so you do as little as possible to help the prosecution. Mr. Branca has a couple of Law of Self Defense membership options offering various benefits available which you might be interested in. Check it out and don't forget to thank Mr. B for his generosity.

So what do you all think? Clearly the end result was a blessing, but what are your thoughts on media coverage in the courtroom? In this specific case, do you think it helped by shaping public opinion?

Have you ordered the free book yet?

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First up, we have this beauty from our pal Nevada Dave

I had a friend of mine play around with his laser and thought it came out pretty good. It's an old STI frame with a bar-sto barrel, Ed Brown slide and Novak sights. It holds 14 in the mag with one in the pipe of .45ACP goodness.

Very nice, Nevada Dave! Now maybe am AoS logo?

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Next up, our pal blaster reports on what he and hrothgar have been up to.

Hrothgar bit on one of the PSA PSA's and picked up a blem AR15 upper and lower for a VERY reasonable full rifle build price. It looks great in tan furniture maybe he will send a photo along! It went to the range with the Moron Gun Club last week and shot pretty well out of the box, but he wanted to get it zeroed on the iron sights. I have a Bushmaster AR acquired about ten years ago that I never zeroed so sounded like a good reason for a range trip.

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blaster 2 112121 hrothgarzero scaled.jpg

I first zeroed an M16 in, ahem, 1984. The technique hasn't really changed that much. This NRA article has a 5 step process - we only did the last 3 which is pretty much : how the Army taught me.
Zero targets are available on the internet for printing on regular 8.5 x 11 paper. We used these.

We were a little worried we wouldn't be able to even see the silhouette at 25 yards given that it isn't 1984 anymore. But it worked out okay. We had a "draft" zeroing target, then we finalized on another. On mine there really are six rounds on target! Then we each put a full mag into another target at 15 yards and despite our finely tuned zeroing while seated with a bag, standing we both ended up shooting consistently low and to the left, but not too badly. Tempted to dial in a couple clicks right and up but that undoes the work of the zero!

Nice job, guys! It's great to have a regular range buddy to work with, isn't it? All ya'll stay tuned in the coming weeks for more range antics from this wacky duo.

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Next up, our pal JerseyDevilRider reports on a recent range trip with his AR.

Last Saturday I took my brother-in-law to my sportsman's club for trap. It was closed but fortunately we came prepared. We took to the rifle range first. Pictured is my Modern Material Patrol, which is manufactured in New Jersey, if you can believe that! Experienced shooters who've fired say the pop up sites are some of the best they've used. So any inaccuracies on the target are all me. Second picture is the target. We shot at 50 yards. I wear dollar store readers so I messed around with and without them. Told my lovely wife that I need to make a trip to the eye doctor. Shot center, high, and low, so I didn't do too bad.

JDR 1 112121 AR Modern Material scaled.jpg

Not too bad at all, I'd say! Nice shooting JDR - we'd love to see more of your work!

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Next up our pal Butch repots on some range practice with a .22LR.

I recently bought some .22LR from various manufacturers and took my S&W Victory 22 and my Ruger 10/22 Takedown to my local indoor range to see if they would digest them. All fed without problem. I think the 10/22 sights are shit; POI was nowhere near POA. It couldn't possibly be my fault!

10 Yards

25 yards

Anyway, I had excess ammo I did not feel like carrying home, so I tried my hand with the Victory at 10 and 25 yards; targets attached. Meh. In my defense, I have not been to the range to practice for the better part of a year. Not all Morons are crack shots; I need to get to the range more often.

Reviewing the targets I've never seen a clearer example of shooting in socks that are too tight. Seriously, what's not to like? You have a ton of hits and haven't been to the range in a year. I'd say you were doing pretty well! Just make it a habit to practice a little more often, and always go to the range with a plan or training objective in mind. You don't have to make it a big deal, just pick the area where you feel you needed some extra work from the last trip, and concentrate on that first the next time you go. I cannot overemphasize this; having a plan at the range makes your practice that much more focused and effective. Finally, don't confuse plinking with training! Plinking is fun and that's what I do a ton of anymore at the farm, but if I were getting ready for a match or otherwise trying to up my game, my practice routine and range time would look a lot different.

I also applaud your using a .22LR for practice. It's economical and fun to shoot which generally results in more trigger time. I have said this before, but you can practice all the major components of rifle marksmanship at a small fraction of the cost of centerfire cartridges. Practice, practice, practice is the key!

As long as we are talking about the .22LR, here's a video on the ballistics of the cartridge.

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No matter how hard you try to avoid it, rust on firearms, particularly stored firearms, can still happen. Here are a couple of videos on rust treatment and removal should you need it. I caution you to test any proposed treatment on an inconspicuous area first, and if you are dealing with a collectable or otherwise valuable gun, leave it to professionals!

Anyone have their own solution they'd like to share?

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Finally, our pal hogmartin reminds us of a Winchester 9mm ammunition recall.

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Gun Basics 101

If you have't noticed, winter is on the way. Here's the She Equips Herself girl with some concealed carry ideas for fall outfits.

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Cigar of the Week

For those interested in a slightly milder cigar than I typically recommend, take a look at the Romeo y Julieta 1875 from Cigars International.

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

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1 Howdy Weasel! Thanks for sharing the gun thread across state lines!

Posted by: Doof (known to CROSS STATE LINES) at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (mZUr4)

2 and so it begins

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (G0bXQ)

3 First

Posted by: WarEagle82 at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (+Kpte)

4 1

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (2JoB8)

5 Woohoo !

Hey there Weasel !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (ahosz)

6 I get She Equips Herself videos suggested on my YouTube app

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:01 PM (2JoB8)

7 A AoSHq logo would be easy after the writing

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:02 PM (2JoB8)

8 Howdy, fellow gub 'rons and 'ettes, and thanks Weasel for the forum and the content. blaster and hrothgar, remind me to stay on y'all's good side ...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 21, 2021 07:03 PM (Agr8U)

9 3 First
Posted by: WarEagle82 at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (+Kpte)

4 1
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (2JoB

At least 2 of these statements are false

Posted by: Doof (known to CROSS STATE LINES) at November 21, 2021 07:03 PM (mZUr4)

10 "I first zeroed an M16 in, ahem, 1984."

1975 for me.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 21, 2021 07:03 PM (bVYXr)

11 Ermagerd ermagerd ermagerd!

I now feel I have to get another stainless 1911 and send the slide off to Nevada Dave to get lasered!!

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:04 PM (mbFEM)

12 Good evening gun lovers! Weasel I saw a man in front of me at the liquor store a few days buying 2 cigars. He looked so much like you I did a double take!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 21, 2021 07:04 PM (nxdel)

13 I'll be watching the Post trial zoom webinar from Legal Insurrection and featuring Andrew Branca. I'l comment from time to time.

BUT! Howdy Horde!

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at November 21, 2021 07:05 PM (Iw46i)

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Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 21, 2021 07:04 PM (nxdel)
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Yikes! Did he appear to also be full of shit?

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:05 PM (0IeYL)

15 Did he appear to also be full of shit?

LOL! No! But he must have good taste 2 cigars were around $18.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 21, 2021 07:08 PM (nxdel)

16 Ordered the Branca book. Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:08 PM (nfrXX)

17 Evening Weasel and Hola to the rest of you.
Took the time to order Mr. Brancas book and a couple of other things from him.
And I also read the content.

Love the range reports. Keep up the good work!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 21, 2021 07:09 PM (mcfjc)

18 What a pita it's going to be to check for the "wrong" lot numbers on those 9mm boxes.

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 21, 2021 07:09 PM (cknjq)

19 Weasel haven't tried that R & J yet, but it's on my (long) list of candidates to try. Had a Perla del Mar maduro yesterday, very nice. I don't quite sync with the standard way of describing cigar profiles. "Full strength" or "strong" seems to correlate, actually, to mild, flavorful, rich, in many cases (especially with maduros).

Aroma de Cuba Mi Amor next up, with some sipping rum, some time this week.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:10 PM (OTzUX)

20 Nevada Dave's .45 will cause me to see my doctor in four hours. Boy will she be surprised.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 07:10 PM (0OP+5)

21 Also, hello gub threaders!

This week I received 2 "Fun sticks" (33 rd Glock mags) to use with the EP9.

pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew

Question: Now that I own Glock mags, it doesn't mean I have to own a Glock, too, does it?

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:10 PM (mbFEM)

22 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 21, 2021 07:11 PM (arJlL)

23 Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:10 PM (OTzUX)
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Nice, bro!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:11 PM (0IeYL)

24 I saw DEVO at Synthetic Stock.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 21, 2021 07:11 PM (63Dwl)

25 I keep getting text messages from my dad when he's in his deer blind. Actually, it's more of a luxury suite on stilts. He's a contractor, and he overbuilds things to last. Anyway, it reminds me that I haven't taken a hunting trip with him in a few years, and I need to do so sooner rather than later. He's in pretty good health still, but there's no guarantee that either he or I will be kicking around forever.

Posted by: PabloD at November 21, 2021 07:11 PM (mCus8)

26 "I first zeroed an M16 in, ahem, 1984."

1975 for me.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 21, 2021 07:03 PM (bVYXr)

Fall of 1987. Fort Sill is far more pleasant in the autumn.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Crossing state lines like a Boss at November 21, 2021 07:11 PM (x8Wzq)

27 Greetings Horde, Weasel!

Thicc Boi online!

Posted by: Thicc Boi at November 21, 2021 07:12 PM (zThcc)

28 Many Americans are aching to punish Mr. Rittenhouse by simply denying him work if he ever applies. My fear is that is his fate. I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 21, 2021 07:12 PM (CdZ4i)

29 A little gun mod info:

I have a Ruger PC-9 Carbine. It's a breakdown model where the barrel can be detached from the receiver without tools. It came with a Venom red dot sight. I have never cared for the stock furniture on this gun. It's heavy to begin with, and the plastic/fiberglass stock just seems too much for it.

Anyway, the other day I was on Reddit Ruger sub and saw where Magpul had a "Backpacker" aftermarket stock available for the PC-9. What's innovative about this stock is that the foregrip/barrel can be snapped into a recessed part of the stock. There's also a small compartment in the stock for an additional magazine.

3 Allen screws are all it takes.

Pics of it at Magpul here:
https://tinyurl.com/2ze9c2va

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2021 07:12 PM (BFigT)

30 Question: Now that I own Glock mags, it doesn't mean I have to own a Glock, too, does it?

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:10 PM (mbFEM)

I heard buying Glock mags was the first sign of Glockomia. You will then have the urge to argue the merits of Glock over anything else.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 21, 2021 07:12 PM (mcfjc)

31 Question: Now that I own Glock mags, it doesn't mean I have to own a Glock, too, does it?

Or the miniature Gatling gun that takes Glock mags. In which case, you don't own nearly enough of them.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:13 PM (nfrXX)

32 Antifa running through a parade in Waukesha wi?

Posted by: Gman at November 21, 2021 07:13 PM (hYj23)

33 Or the miniature Gatling gun that takes Glock mags. In which case, you don't own nearly enough of them.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:13 PM (nfrXX)

Wow wow wow.

Wow.

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:14 PM (mbFEM)

34 Hey Weasel! Thanks for the gun thread!

Also thanks for the tip on that book. Only thing is, it's not 100% free. Shipping is $8.95.

But still a great deal IMHO so I got a copy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:14 PM (L2ZTs)

35 early start, long day, bedtime on my planet; I'll read everything tomorrow sometime ... g'night everyone, & thanks, Weasel !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 21, 2021 07:14 PM (ahosz)

36 I need to order that book. I do have a book on TX gun laws which is now five years old (and thus is out of date) that I bought at a gun range for cheap, like $10 or so.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 21, 2021 07:14 PM (CdZ4i)

37 28 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 21, 2021 07:12 PM (CdZ4i)

With luck and a healthy dose of lawyers, Mr. Rittenhouse will follow in the footsteps of Mr. Sandman. I am sure they can co-manage CNN.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (mcfjc)

38 I've never field stripped and cleaned any of my HiPoint carbines but recently looked up how to field strip them . I won't be cleaning my HiPoint carbines anytime soon.

Snake through the barrel will be the extent of my cleaning.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (FKi9J)

39 "Beto" O'Rourke doesn't want Biden to campaign in Texas for him. He's also reaffirmed his desire to confiscate AR-15s and AK-47s.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)

40 Martini Farmer - I knew Magpul was developing a new stock for the PC9, but I didn't know they had released it. I may have to add it to the Christmas wish list. I like the PC9 overall, but the factory stock is definitely in need of refinement.

Posted by: PabloD at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (mCus8)

41
Terrorism in Wakesha, WI?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (N52Qh)

42 Gman, teeftards usually work in groups.
If there were 7 SUVs invading the parade I'd think it was them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (L2ZTs)

43 Howdy to all y'all! Thanks for stopping by!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (0IeYL)

44 40 Martini Farmer - I knew Magpul was developing a new stock for the PC9, but I didn't know they had released it. I may have to add it to the Christmas wish list. I like the PC9 overall, but the factory stock is definitely in need of refinement.
Posted by: PabloD at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (mCus

They have a Backpacker stock for Ruger 10/22 takedown, too.

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:16 PM (mbFEM)

45 Seems like Glock mags are now commoditized, thanks not only to the yuuuuge Glock "installed base", but the large and growing number of PCCs and such that take them. Some odd but friendly guys on duty day this week had some kind of little PCC - "aero-something"? - 9mm, skimpy little thing, took Glock mags. Makes a lot of sense for manufacturers to build that compatibility in.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:16 PM (OTzUX)

46 Hello, Weasel and horde! Got a couple of AR-15s that could use a recheck on their zeroes too.

Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 07:17 PM (NacE+)

47 Good Evening fellow enthusiasts. No range report this week for me(sigh). The Moron Gun Club is shooting next Sunday however. Found out the range only closes one day a year, Christmas. That's it.

Ahem. I own a Glock 44 22lr and have learned to love it. Not only have I gotten more accurate but the thing performs each and every time I take it out of the case.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 07:17 PM (Y+l9t)

48 39 Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)

Something tells me "Beto" just want to be a professional candidate. He knows he won't win but think of all the travel and he never has to work!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (mcfjc)

49 Catch33,
something tells me Kyle won't have to work. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (L2ZTs)

50 Weasel a second request for that carry case in a video at your convenience, pretty please.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (2JoB8)

51 Magpul website says they're out of stock. Maybe Midway or Brownell's has them.

Posted by: PabloD at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (mCus8)

52 Also it wouldn't surprise me if Kyle doesn't change his name.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (L2ZTs)

53 Two things I will pull from the TX Declaration of Independence that I will leave here before checking out, that are relevant given the past week:

Trial by jury is "that palladium of civil liberty and the only safe guarantee for the life, liberty and property of the citizen". And that firearms and the ability to own them are "essential to our defence, the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments."

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (CdZ4i)

54 Nevada Dave's .45 will cause me to see my doctor in four hours. Boy will she be surprised.
Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 07:10 PM

I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all. You're pulling our (collective) legs.

Surprised? Seriously? Like this is the first time you've presented with this symptom?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (a3Q+t)

55 Thanks for the gun thread, Weasel.
I second the R&J 1875. Very nice change of pace from the more robust cigars I have.
Mine tonight is an Exodus 1959 by Torano. Very nice smoking.
Bourbon in a bit.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at November 21, 2021 07:19 PM (BSV0x)

56 Oops, it WOULD surprise me if Kyle doesn't change his name.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:19 PM (L2ZTs)

57 Reports I just saw said one was captured, 3 black males. Running down people in the crowd and firing guns out of their car.

My initial guess would be BLM "revenge" for the rittenhouse verdict.

Posted by: Gman at November 21, 2021 07:19 PM (hYj23)

58 Also it wouldn't surprise me if Kyle doesn't change his name.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (L2ZTs)

Kyle muthafuckin Rambo has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 07:20 PM (VwHCD)

59 Weasel, did I ever show you this at Amazon?

Thinking I should get a copy. :-)

https://tinyurl.com/spbj9dkr

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)

60 Hello, Weasel and horde! Got a couple of AR-15s that could use a recheck on their zeroes too.

Ditto that. I took my EOTech off to loan to a friend to try out before deciding to drop $$$ on one and haven't checked zero since putting it back on. Just sheer laziness on my part since I don't even have to pay per trip to the range any more.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:20 PM (nfrXX)

61 Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (2JoB

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Thanks for the reminder, Skip. I'll try and put something together for next week.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:20 PM (0IeYL)

62 49 Catch33,
something tells me Kyle won't have to work. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (L2ZTs)

I know what you mean but I am not holding my breath on that one. Though in a just world that will absolutely be the case.

Yes, I am happy with the verdict. I am pissed beyond belief that there WAS a verdict. Mr. Rittenhouse shouldn't have been charged, PERIOD.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 21, 2021 07:20 PM (CdZ4i)

63 F That.

He can run for office, or at the very least be the go to interview guy for self defense related news stories. He needs more exposure and immersion, not less.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM (SVPcU)

64 Berserker, too obvious. :-)

Maybe John K.R. Galt.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM (L2ZTs)

65 I think Kyle should go after MSNBC. Then He and Sandman could each have one.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM (Y+l9t)

66 The Ruger PC9 also takes Glock mags. Glock 17's for sure as I have 3 including a ludicrous 40 rounder that is a total pain in the ass to load but fun to empty. All you have to do is replace a drop in mag well.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM (BFigT)

67 Beto" O'Rourke doesn't want Biden to campaign in Texas for him. He's also reaffirmed his desire to confiscate AR-15s and AK-47s.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)

I reaffirm my desire to solidify Robert ORourke's title as the losing-est of all democrat losers.

Lose faster! Leave Abortion Barbie in the dust!
Hopefully he'll also waste $10-$20 million of the Dem donors funds.

Posted by: LASue at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM (Ed8Zd)

68 Evening, gunnies and gunettes.
Just checked my latest box o' boolits. All set - thx, hogmartin!

Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM (5amWu)

69
Question: Now that I own Glock mags, it doesn't mean I have to own a Glock, too, does it?

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:10 PM
Funny you should mention that. I just put my hands on 3 Shield Arms FIFTEEN round mags for my G48. I know, the concept of a 15 rd mag in a single stack Glock is mindfcuking but there it is. But yeah, sooner or later you will buy a used G17 for those 33 rounders.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM (0OP+5)

70 Bought a couple Padron 1964 Anniversary cigars the other day - a Soberano Natural and a Toro Natural. Haven't tried either one, saving them for Thanksgiving.

Lead in from Professor Jacobson, followed by Andrew

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at November 21, 2021 07:22 PM (Iw46i)

71 Busy but pretty prosaic duty day this week. Older guy who couldn't get some Federal 45ACP hollowpoints to run in his Kimber just gave me the box, which is nice. Will add them to my stock for when I carry the 1911 on duty days.

I quickly went up to one of the smaller ranges and checked, two mags' worth ran fine in my 1911.

Got the #2 M1 sighted in nicely (16 clicks up @100 yds, for my reloads, odd, my older notes say 13 clicks, but whatever). Then, for the 2nd consecutive time, couldn't sleep last night and missed the action rifle match I was tuning it up for. Infuriating beyond words.

For first time saw a group of illegals walking the main highway - black clothes, backpacks. They've been showing up at/around the range, in day time, too, reportedly. Two RO buddies live out that way, BP has advised them to stay indoors at night, and asked to make sure they're all armed (!!!!). Good job, America!

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:22 PM (OTzUX)

72 32 Antifa running through a parade in Waukesha wi?

Posted by: Gman at November 21, 2021 07:13 PM (hYj23)

Can't find anything about them catching the shooter or identity.

Posted by: firehorse at November 21, 2021 07:22 PM (Pq3m6)

73 @67: "Hopefully he'll also waste $10-$20 million of the Dem donors funds."

It'll be closer to $100m or $200m by the time he's done.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 07:22 PM (+WWsf)

74 Howdy Weasel!! Howdy fellow gun cranks!!
First, my gun buddy Rick was prowling the Chantilly show looking for some things on MY want list. Friday PM he had picked up 100 rounds of 75 grain hornady match bullets, a new RCBS die set, appropriate shell holder, and a new hornady reloading manual. Once i find a cheapish single stage press, I think I am ready to begin some long distance load development.
Went to the range with SiD on Friday night. (Both Date night AND Kyle day) I shot W shoot N see targets. Not good for me and pistol shooting... I shot OK. I will let SiD tell you how well she shot.
Last, the owner is airgun friendly!!! So, will be doing some of that too. YAY!!

Posted by: jesse in dc at November 21, 2021 07:22 PM (kTRt4)

75 -
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)

Something tells me "Beto" just want to be a professional candidate. He knows he won't win but think of all the travel and he never has to work!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM -
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I respect the "constant candidate" grift slightly more than the "stab my voters in the back" grift, as the former is generally more honest.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2021 07:22 PM (BB7pQ)

76 I love who-tee-who and his videos. I don't hunt or shoot bolt guns but he's such a welcome and humorous relief from the oh so serious primer weighers. I love it when he's sighting in a rifle and says "I need to go up 5 clickies, now which way do I have to turn the dials? He's sighted in more scopes than I have, he knows which way to turn the turrets. LOL

Posted by: ck at November 21, 2021 07:22 PM (iBg56)

77 39 "Beto" O'Rourke doesn't want Biden to campaign in Texas for him. He's also reaffirmed his desire to confiscate AR-15s and AK-47s.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)

Well, he'll be welcome in about 3 or 4 TX counties.

And completely unwelcome in the other 250 or so.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 21, 2021 07:23 PM (CdZ4i)

78

Hollywood Celebrities Freak Out Over Rittenhouse Verdict, Claim They Are Suffering "PTSD"

https://tinyurl.com/taw2rw8w

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 21, 2021 07:23 PM (63Dwl)

79 driver I mean, read there were gunshots but not sure if they were the police or from the driver.

Posted by: firehorse at November 21, 2021 07:23 PM (Pq3m6)

80 I had to go to the main Houston PD station downtown on Monday to pick up a police report I had filed. Had to park a few blocks away . When I got there I realized I forgot to take my backup .380 Bodyguard out of my pocket . I decided instead of walking back to my car I asked the desk sergeant if they could hold my gun while I went to the records department. He told me as long as I am remaining on first floor I was okay to carry . As I was emptying my pockets to go through metal detector the other officer told me I'd have to leave my keys with him or could take off the pen knife I had on my key chain. He made a point of telling me its okay that I can carry but can't bring in any type of knife. I think he was saying it with sarcasm.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 07:23 PM (FKi9J)

81 Something tells me "Beto" just want to be a professional candidate. He knows he won't win but think of all the travel and he never has to work!!

His daddy's rich so he has never had to work at all. He just wants to use his white privilege to save us poor benighted deplorables, doncha know. He's basically John Kerry 2.0.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:24 PM (nfrXX)

82 Or the miniature Gatling gun that takes Glock mags. In which case, you don't own nearly enough of them.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:13 PM (nfrXX)

Mac over at The Military Arms channel did a video of the one he owns from Tippmann Armory.

He even uses the 50 round SMG Glock magazine to good effect.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 21, 2021 07:24 PM (R/m4+)

83 Chantilly show trip report: Went out Friday and today, right after the doors opened. Traffic seemed light, but increased as the day went on. I'm told that Saturday was quite heavy. The notably smaller pile of guns at the larger vendors' tables appear to confirm this. Looks like guns and gear are on a number of people's shopping list for Christmas.

Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 07:24 PM (NacE+)

84 Winston, I've got an Exodus in the two samplers I got recently from Thompson. Impossible to tell if it's Exodus 1959, or some variation - band is different. Accompanying literature (which generally was good and informative) only clouded things further, referring to a "make-over" for the Exodus 1959 line, without detailing exactly what (beyond a new band design) that entailed.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:26 PM (OTzUX)

85 Jesse, you gonna tell everyone the important news?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 07:26 PM (Y+l9t)

86 Since i was having trouble with the Savage Axis, I went out and bought a Franchi Momentum Elite in .308. Got a vortex scope mounted and dialed in. Ready to put holes in some deer.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 07:26 PM (UkBFs)

87 Hollywood Celebrities Freak Out Over Rittenhouse Verdict, Claim They Are Suffering "PTSD"

https://tinyurl.com/taw2rw8w
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 21, 2021 07:23 PM (63Dwl)

PTSD? Post Trump Stupidity Disorder?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 07:27 PM (oHd/0)

88 85 Jesse, you gonna tell everyone the important news?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 07:26 PM (Y+l9t)
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New gun?

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:27 PM (0IeYL)

89 Question: Now that I own Glock mags, it doesn't mean I have to own a Glock, too, does it?

More non Glock guns use Glock mags than the number of Glock models.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 07:27 PM (FKi9J)

90 Hi Weasel and everyone. Just back from spotting for my youngest.

Posted by: Nevada Dave at November 21, 2021 07:27 PM (3DzQz)

91 The overhead video of the Waukesha incident is horrifying.

Posted by: firehorse at November 21, 2021 07:27 PM (Pq3m6)

92 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 07:26 PM (UkBFs)
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Congratulations!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:28 PM (0IeYL)

93 Texas rancher showing Beto a little Texas love:

https://tinyurl.com/2d7u22nz

Posted by: Splunge at November 21, 2021 07:28 PM (PQ4Fz)

94 He won't do as well as abortion Barbie did.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 07:28 PM (UkBFs)

95 I need to get to the driving range and the shooting range. But the days seem to fly by without either happening.

Posted by: LASue at November 21, 2021 07:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

96 His daddy's rich so he has never had to work at all. He just wants to use his white privilege to save us poor benighted deplorables, doncha know. He's basically John Kerry 2.0.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:24 PM (nfrX

I think it's his Daddy in Law that has the big bucks.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 07:29 PM (FKi9J)

97 95 I need to get to the driving range and the shooting range.

Do both at once to save time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 07:29 PM (UkBFs)

98 Still not many details on today's terror attack on the parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin. Another example why if you are licensed to carry you need to do it because there's no telling what will happen one random day of your life.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at November 21, 2021 07:29 PM (TEWKg)

99 Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at November 21, 2021 07:29 PM (TEWKg)
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Absolutely. And welcome to the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:30 PM (0IeYL)

100 Saturdays past I'd start at the driving range, then hit the indoor shooting range, then on to wine tasting at my favorite store. Was a good Saturday routine, and all in a line, sort of, not far from each other.

Gotta keep the order correct, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:30 PM (OTzUX)

101 98 Still not many details on today's terror attack on the parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin. Another example why if you are licensed to carry you need to do it because there's no telling what will happen one random day of your life.
Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at November 21, 2021 07:29 PM (TEWKg)

Fox just had an eyewitness on audio... whose brother saw the perp, and they were very careful to NOT say the guys ethnicity.

Wonder why.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 07:30 PM (oHd/0)

102 You want to know what the teefatards are doing:

A Nordstrom in California was taken over by 80 of them, carrying crowbars and other implements of destruction. They also attacked people.

I feel bad for the people, but not for Nordstrom itself, which has been super-woke for quite some time now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:31 PM (L2ZTs)

103 Cigar content:

I purchased some AJ Fernandez San Lotano's, Enclave broadleaf and My Father Fonsesa's the other week. All in robusto's so I don't have to freeze my ass off this winter. I also threw in a Leaf by Oscar sampler. All pretty good sticks IMO.

FOX Cigar.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2021 07:31 PM (BFigT)

104 Howdy, Gun Thread!

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 07:32 PM (Gcsm/)

105 Andrew is promoting a "Kyles Law" to hold prosecutors liable for prosecuting really egregious self defense cases. Actually sounds a reasonable idea, apparently WA State has a law on the books like that.

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at November 21, 2021 07:32 PM (Iw46i)

106 A Nordstrom in California was taken over by 80 of them, carrying crowbars and other implements of destruction. They also attacked people.

I feel bad for the people, but not for Nordstrom itself, which has been super-woke for quite some time now.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:31 PM (L2ZTs)

Wow, it's almost like if you defund the police, and tell them not to enforce the law... criminals run rampant...

Who woulda thunk it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 07:32 PM (oHd/0)

107 Once i find a cheapish single stage press, I think I am ready to begin some long distance load development.

Honestly, once you get started, the initial cost of the press is not all that big a deal. If it really does matter, the Lee Precision aluminum O-frame is a pretty good deal. I have a buddy who has broken his three times and Lee has replaced it under warranty every time, so there's that. I went the other way and sprung for the RCBS Rock Chucker which will definitely outlive me and probably my (eventual) grandkids.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:33 PM (nfrXX)

108 32 Antifa running through a parade in Waukesha wi?

Posted by: Gman at November 21, 2021 07:13 PM (hYj23)

Can't find anything about them catching the shooter or identity.
Posted by: firehorse at November 21, 2021 07:22 PM

3 black males, at least one in custody. Twitter:

https://tinyurl.com/4bh82xwf

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 21, 2021 07:33 PM (OssQ4)

109 They are calling it a mass casualty event. More than 30 people serioiusly injured. Red SUV ran full speed into the parade mowing down 9-15 year old girls marching and others.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 07:33 PM (Y+l9t)

110 My only real question for the horde gun crowd is the same as for any gun crowd: Does anyone have any guns they want to sell for one quarter of what they should bring? -
What, no one? Once again, I am one lonely lowballer.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2021 07:33 PM (BB7pQ)

111 Romeo, yup.

Was the Walnut Creek Nordstrom, I found out. WC is in northern California and I believe not far from SF/Oakland/Berkeley.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:34 PM (L2ZTs)

112 "Have you ordered the free book yet?"

I got 3 of them last time he offered (during the Chauvin trial, and there was some even specialer deal with 3).
I gave one to my son and kept one in reserve for giving away in the right moment.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 07:34 PM (Gcsm/)

113 rhomboid
Torano has some very nice cigars aside from the Exodus. That one has a large gold band that proudly says 1959 the year the family got out of Cuba with a lot of seeds.
If it's the color label, like purple, those are milder but good. I also found at Cigars Int, one by them called Hogshead. Also very good. Pretty inexpensive.
The Exodus 1959 is the first non JR cigars I started smoking years ago. All well worth while.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at November 21, 2021 07:34 PM (BSV0x)

114 Mini range report:
After messing around with 40 and 20 MOA ramps, I'm back to zero MOA with the .22. Shoots fine at 50, 100 and 200. If I need to shoot at 300, I'll just call in Arty or Air.

Posted by: RI Red - KfzQO at November 21, 2021 07:34 PM (5amWu)

115 Weasel, thank you very much for the thread. That laser etching is excellent. Have to think about that. And thanks for your thoughts on KR.

Neighbors changed poker night to 5pm Idaho time, so I have to run. (They are addicted to Yellowstone, so we will watch that, and then have some high stakes ($15 a piece!) poker).

Went deer hunting for the first time this week (Winchester 70). Right after a fresh snow. In some ways ideal. While we saw some fresh tracks, none of us fired a shot, never saw a deer. Maybe we will go again tomorrow morning.
Went clay pigeon hunting today(Beretta Silver Pigeon 12g). Killed a bunch of those fluorescent orange devils and had a lot of fun. Did not do too bad, only my second time in my life shooting a shot gun. Tried out my friends 20g. Interesting. Much lighter gun (Browning Citori).

I mentioned an enhanced concealed carry class last week. I emailed the teacher about revolvers for participants in the class. He wrote back and said revolvers are fine. It was about getting people through 98 shots per the state of Idaho. Difficult with a revolver. Otherwise he said he is a big fan of revolvers, and they welcome them, and will work them in to class.

Posted by: MikeM at November 21, 2021 07:34 PM (jI1b1)

116 Martini Farmer, funny, all three of those names just came on my radar the last few days.

There are so, so many brands and lines, it's sort of amazing.

Tim at Cigars Daily says the main issue with the cigar sector now is not logistics, or manufacturing interruptions, but simple excess demand. People are buying/burning sticks at all-time high levels. He predicts some major brands will be dropping production of certain lines for at least a while, to focus on top-sellers. He gets his info from inside the industry, so he may be right.

For me it's a question of when to stop only sampling and start buying a quantity of the winning candidates.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:35 PM (OTzUX)

117 Niece just texted me to say they were ok in Waukesha. Horrible. ROP?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 21, 2021 07:35 PM (2NHgQ)

118 They are calling it a mass casualty event. More than 30 people serioiusly injured. Red SUV ran full speed into the parade mowing down 9-15 year old girls marching and others.
Posted by: s

in fairness, for now, that is what it is

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:35 PM (K3ZCc)

119 Ahem. I own a Glock 44 22lr and have learned to love it. Not only have I gotten more accurate but the thing performs each and every time I take it out of the case.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 07:17 PM (Y+l9t)

swa ain't bragging cuz she done it.

The NoVa (more or less) Moron Gun Club continues to grow and it's cool to see people improve their skills.

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:35 PM (mbFEM)

120 @106: "Wow, it's almost like if you defund the police, and tell them not to enforce the law... criminals run rampant... Who woulda thunk it."

Worst part is most of those flash mob robberies are coordinated on social media with receipts if anyone was ever bored enough go full surveillance state and prosecute. The dumbest even post video under the real names.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 07:36 PM (+WWsf)

121 I stopped the criminals in Union Square, ya'll.
I banned the cars.
Because they were using cars! CARS!

Posted by: Mayor London Breed at November 21, 2021 07:36 PM (jTmQV)

122 Do they make a maternity shoulder holster for hog-leg class revolvers? In both colors?

Posted by: klaftern at November 21, 2021 07:36 PM (taPSh)

123 PM article on Waukesha terror:

https://tinyurl.com/4kwb264j

Driver hit 30 young girls, dance troupe, in parade.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 21, 2021 07:36 PM (OssQ4)

124 Posted by: MikeM at November 21, 2021 07:34 PM (jI1b1)
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Thanks for the follow-up, MikeM!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:37 PM (0IeYL)

125 Mrs. E and I went to a gunshow after church, picked up (for me) 100 rounds of 147 gr 9mm fmj to shoot in in a Blackhawk .357/9mm convertible, a custommade skinning knife for Mrs. E. Guess which cost the most?

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 07:37 PM (0OP+5)

126 Was the Walnut Creek Nordstrom, I found out. WC is in northern California and I believe not far from SF/Oakland/Berkeley.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:34 PM (L2ZTs)

Yeah, suburbia... west of Oakland... used to date a woman who lived there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 07:37 PM (oHd/0)

127 >>>3 black males, at least one in custody. Twitter:

https://tinyurl.com/4bh82xwf

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus

Rittenhouse related, or the Religion of Peas?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 07:37 PM (bkUtD)

128 39 "Beto" O'Rourke doesn't want Biden to campaign in Texas for him. He's also reaffirmed his desire to confiscate AR-15s and AK-47s.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)

So "Beto" thinks that Slo Joe campaigning for him is a bigger negative in Texas than gun grabbing. He's either a bigger idiot than I thought, or Slo Joe is more toxic than I imagined.
Or, "embrace the power of both", as some once said.

Posted by: a.moron at November 21, 2021 07:38 PM (F6Xpw)

129 Somebody broke *3* Lee presses? I saw "aluminum", not familiar with such a creature in the Lee line-up, but I've not kept up with press gear, other than to buy more dies for new calibers, for years.

Generally speaking, Lee and the other major brands of reloading presses are built to industrial standards and properly used and cared for will outlive several generations of owners.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:39 PM (OTzUX)

130 Question: Now that I own Glock mags, it doesn't mean I have to own a Glock, too, does it?

Posted by: blaster

I sure hope not! I bought two 27 round g17 mags for the Kel-Tec sub2000, those along with the included 17 round mag makes for a fun run of 9mm!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 21, 2021 07:39 PM (GZn+5)

131 Alec Baldwin commenting...

https://twitter.com/RezZureKtedPoeT/status/
1462552350493753351

https://tinyurl.com/57cjwk9b

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 07:40 PM (UHVv4)

132 zh has the run down vid

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:40 PM (K3ZCc)

133 Only thing new so far is a pic of the car...

https://tinyurl.com/yj5yxch4

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 07:32 PM

Really odd that they apparently abandoned the vehicle there, but backed it into the driveway and left it in clear view of everyone with the damaged area pointing to the street. Just seems really odd.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 07:40 PM (Do5/p)

134 I think it's his Daddy in Law that has the big bucks.

So even more like John Kerry then, eh? I stand corrected.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:40 PM (nfrXX)

135 It was a Christmas Parade with families lining the street. They not only plowed down young kids with the car but then open fired. This is just sick.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 07:40 PM (Y+l9t)

136 Evening all. My Traditions Woodsman .50 cal Hawken came in Friday. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Can't wait.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 07:41 PM (5t6Zf)

137 Rittenhouse related, or the Religion of Peas?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

I'm guessing the former. Rage-revenge seems to be on the menu. Half of Twitter excused the Nordstrom looters for that very reason. If Kyle can do that, we can do this.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 21, 2021 07:41 PM (OssQ4)

138 Also to repeat on that Nevada Dan's etching.

ER.
MA.
GERD.

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:41 PM (mbFEM)

139 Kel-Tec sub2000
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I misread that as "K-Tel"!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 07:41 PM (UHVv4)

140 It was a Christmas Parade with families lining the street. They not only plowed down young kids with the car but then open fired. This is just sick.
Posted by: s

not sure that is true, they slowed down before hitting anybody

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:41 PM (K3ZCc)

141 >>>Really odd that they apparently abandoned the vehicle there, but backed it into the driveway and left it in clear view of everyone with the damaged area pointing to the street. Just seems really odd.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton

Because they don't care. They think they won't be charged, and/or because they'll say it's justice for the Antifa thugs.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 07:41 PM (bkUtD)

142 135 It was a Christmas Parade with families lining the street. They not only plowed down young kids with the car but then open fired. This is just sick.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 07:40 PM (Y+l9t)

Until we start treating Barbarians, as Barbarians, this is going to get nothing but worse.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 07:42 PM (oHd/0)

143 My new baby - https://bit.ly/3CCcUuf

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at November 21, 2021 07:42 PM (EjmvJ)

144 I'm guessing the former. Rage-revenge seems to be on the menu. Half of Twitter excused the Nordstrom looters for that very reason. If Kyle can do that, we can do this.

The woke crowd recognize they're in a war with the rest of us.

Posted by: Methos at November 21, 2021 07:42 PM (kOpft)

145 not sure that is true, they slowed down before hitting anybody
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:41 PM (K3ZCc)

/from inside the car...

No you dumbshit, you are only supposed to hit the WHITE ONES.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 07:43 PM (oHd/0)

146 >>>I'm guessing the former. Rage-revenge seems to be on the menu. Half of Twitter excused the Nordstrom looters for that very reason. If Kyle can do that, we can do this.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus

True enough. Running down teenage girls should definitely force the death penalty, but America doesn't usually do that anymore.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 07:43 PM (bkUtD)

147 I'm guessing the former. Rage-revenge seems to be on the menu. Half of Twitter excused the Nordstrom looters for that very reason. If Kyle can do that, we can do this.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist,

Yeah. That's not how it works. Want to play that game? Kyle got to do what he did for the summer of looting y'all did.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 07:43 PM (5t6Zf)

148 I misread that as "K-Tel"!
Posted by: andycanuck

I don't think Ronco sold them on late night TV...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 21, 2021 07:43 PM (GZn+5)

149 they are saying they caught the driver because he pulled the car over

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:43 PM (K3ZCc)

150 Sharon, I thought you were going to...

Ahem... SiD and I will formally tie the knot on Friday, Dec 3, or..12 3 21. I will ask the JP to declare us as Man and Wife at 2 12 pm, but that may not work...
A true gun thread romance, and now I get to marry the woman of my dreams.
I tried to register with S &W, but they don't seem to have a registry...

Posted by: jesse in dc at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (kTRt4)

151 For me it's a question of when to stop only sampling and start buying a quantity of the winning candidates.
Posted by: rhomboid
_________
On a lark a couple months ago I bought a "tasting kit" of the AJ stuff from FOX. I think there were 5 sticks total. The two I mentioned are the ones I liked the best, but I'd still buy a pack of the other's. The My Father spinoff is really quite good. The all have a profile I sort of dig... a bit of pepper, some earthiness and leather with hints of chocolate and spice. Probably on the mid-to-strong scale.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (BFigT)

152 Taylor Lumpkin
at_TaylorLumpkinTV

TRIGGER WARNING: DISTURBING VIDEO A viewer sent in horrifying video the moment a red SUV plowed through a crowd during the #Waukesha Holiday Parade. Its currently unclear how many people have been injured. Updates to come on @tmj4

7:13 PM - Nov 21, 2021 from Shorewood, WI - https://bit.ly/3HAo3zw

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (Do5/p)

153 I'll be making a trip to Cabelas soon and for an odd reason.

There used to be little tool for making your own percussion caps called Tap-O-Cap. It was discontinued several years ago but another company makes a similar tool. The website is 22lrreloader dot com. There is one for number 10 and one to make number 11 caps. (They also sell the tools and materials to reload 22lr and mag rimfires.) Each tool is about 50 bucks each which ain't cheap for what is essentially a punch for thin tin. But at the moment, they are the only game in town.

I've read reports about them, mostly good. They offer a compound to use as a primer but you can use toy caps, the kind we used to use in cap pistols. Turns out Cabelas still sells the caps and at a good price. Our local store actually has the caps in stock: 1,200 caps for about three dollars. Thus my trip this week.

to be continued...

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (7EjX1)

154 -
Ultimatereloader.com did an interesting video comparing 14 single stage presses:
https://youtu.be/TqcYI0G2hqM

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (BB7pQ)

155 Does anyone have any guns they want to sell for one quarter of what they should bring?

I have a Taurus Curve that I would give away except that I can't in good conscience foist it off on another person. I'm just keeping it around hoping that I can eventually swap it for some Amazon gift cards at a buy-back.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 07:45 PM (nfrXX)

156 Posted by: jesse in dc at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (kTRt4)
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Better than a new gun! Congratulations!!!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:45 PM (0IeYL)

157 #132 ZeroHedge page with video here courtesy CF
https://tinyurl.com/y5a9ch8w

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 07:45 PM (UHVv4)

158 Likely Rittenhouse related. Waukesha is a classic overwhelmingly white small county seat sorta town. Technically, Milwaukee metro, short driving distance, but not really, and it's exactly the kinda place you'd wanna go if you were a mostly peaceful protester looking for revenge this weekend.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 07:45 PM (+WWsf)

159 Sharon, I thought you were going to...

Ahem... SiD and I will formally tie the knot on Friday, Dec 3, or..12 3 21. I will ask the JP to declare us as Man and Wife at 2 12 pm, but that may not work...
A true gun thread romance, and now I get to marry the woman of my dreams.
I tried to register with S &W, but they don't seem to have a registry...
Posted by: jesse in dc at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (kTRt4)

Congrats, you crazy kids! Wishing you a lifetime of blessings and happiness.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 21, 2021 07:46 PM (Agr8U)

160 Yeah. That's not how it works. Want to play that game? Kyle got to do what he did for the summer of looting y'all did.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 07:43 PM (5t6Zf)

Yeah, it's like the silly 'if Kyle were not there those two would still be alive' crap.

Well, if they had not been there RIOTING and Breaking laws... hey, they'd be alive wouldn't they.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 07:46 PM (oHd/0)

161 >>>Technically, Milwaukee metro, short driving distance, but not really, and it's exactly the kinda place you'd wanna go if you were a mostly peaceful protester looking for revenge this weekend.
Posted by: Walter Freeman

Arm yourselves, people. Not that this needs to be said on the gun thread.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 07:46 PM (bkUtD)

162 Multiple fatalities

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2021 07:46 PM (Irn0L)

163 An investment firm founded by Hunter Biden facilitated a $3.8 billion purchase of an American-owned cobalt mine by a Chinese conglomerate

According to a former BHR board member, Hunter and the other American founders were not involved in the mine deal, and the firm only earned a 'nominal' fee on the deal. The proceeds allegedly went towards the firm's operating expenses, and was not distributed to its owners.

Uh, huh. 10% for the big guy.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 07:46 PM (UkBFs)

164 There used to be little tool for making your own percussion caps called Tap-O-Cap. It was discontinued several years ago but another company makes a similar tool. The website is 22lrreloader dot com. There is one for number 10 and one to make number 11 caps. (They also sell the tools and materials to reload 22lr and mag rimfires.) Each tool is about 50 bucks each which ain't cheap for what is essentially a punch for thin tin. But at the moment, they are the only game in town.

I've read reports about them, mostly good. They offer a compound to use as a primer but you can use toy caps, the kind we used to use in cap pistols. Turns out Cabelas still sells the caps and at a good price. Our local store actually has the caps in stock: 1,200 caps for about three dollars. Thus my trip this week.

to be continued...

Posted by: JTB

Ordered from them October 22. They took my money out the next day. Haven't seen shit from them. Emails have gone unanswered.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 07:47 PM (5t6Zf)

165 https://bit.ly/3HAo3zw

From the video looks like no chance to shoot at the vehicle even if you were carrying.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 07:47 PM (FKi9J)

166 Fox reporting "multiple fatalities", based on info from Chief of Police.

Prayers up for victims and families.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 21, 2021 07:47 PM (qyH+l)

167 A young guy had a new-to-him CMP Service Grade at the range this week. Had never seen the CMP stock - very nice. Unfinished. Several of us reco'd a gradual linseed oil treatment - wait til April or so when it's warm again and do one coat, let the stock bake in the sun a bit (also darkens the treatment). His serial number was high, post-war, an HRA like mine.

An RO trainee, in the Corps for a while when younger, had never shot the M1, he was stoked to the max when I insisted he empty some clips. He also remarked on how easy it was to shoot accurately, just picking it up, and the power of the thing, as well as the beauty of the industrial art. By far the most popular rifle at the range, in my experience.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:47 PM (OTzUX)

168 Oh, and I got told today that my Christmas present can be a holster - I pick it out, and they will buy it.

I just hope it doesn't turn into one in the pile (I guess I should get a box) of ones I don't use - now up to 2.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 07:47 PM (Gcsm/)

169 continued ...
I don't really need any percussion caps right now but I'm curious to see if they will work. I haven't bought toy caps for about 60 years and was surprised they are still made. If I get the tool and the caps I'll post a report about how it goes.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 07:47 PM (7EjX1)

170 Buddy of mine lived in Waukesha for a while. He's the dude who talked me into moving to Alaska back in the 20th century.

not sure how this contributes to the conversation.

this is also how I do office parties, and family get-togethers. I am that guy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Crossing state lines like a Boss at November 21, 2021 07:47 PM (x8Wzq)

171 Also kinda kidding about the Glock mags. The fact that they are consolidating aftermarket on a standard is good.

I mean I look at 10 rd mags for Sig P365 at $50 or the 33 round aftermarket Glock mags at 15.

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 07:47 PM (mbFEM)

172 I mentioned how happy I was with the Rittenhouse verdict, and my younger daughter got so angry yesterday.

To say I was gobsmacked would be an understatement.

She actually believes that anything that happens is because of racism and that people deserve what they get.

God help her because I just cannot see anything short of something happening to her (or the g-babies) to change her mind, and to be honest, probably not even then.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 07:48 PM (tUVd3)

173 jesse in dc
Congratulations!
I am glad you two found each other.
First big argument forecast,
Who's the better shot!

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (BSV0x)

174 Would hollow points be necessary with a 45acp?
Remember a biker magazine in late 70s wrote guy knew many inmates shot by 9mm, none by 45acp.?

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (2JoB8)

175 and I got told today that my Christmas present can be a holster - I pick it out, and they will buy it.

I just hope it doesn't turn into one in the pile (I guess I should get a box) of ones I don't use - now up to 2.
Posted by: GWB

aiwb

trex and tier 1 have some nice thing

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (K3ZCc)

176 164 ... "Ordered from them October 22. They took my money out the next day. Haven't seen shit from them. Emails have gone unanswered."

Rick,

Thanks for the warning. I'll check for other complaints before ordering.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (7EjX1)

177 Something tells me "Beto" just want to be a professional candidate.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 21, 2021 07:18 PM (mcfjc)

Like Pat Paulsen?

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (Gcsm/)

178 Slowed down? Looked pretty damned deliberate to me.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (Xrfse)

179 I don't really need any percussion caps right now but I'm curious to see if they will work. I haven't bought toy caps for about 60 years and was surprised they are still made. If I get the tool and the caps I'll post a report about how it goes.
Posted by: JTB

If you order from them and get yours, ask them where my order is.
Ordered from them October 22. They took my money out the next day. Haven't seen shit from them. Emails have gone unanswered.
Posted by: rickb223

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (5t6Zf)

180 SMH, was she abusive to you as well?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 07:50 PM (L2ZTs)

181 In the olden times, ace would create a separate thread for the cat-nip du jour, so as to keep other threads more/less on topic.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:50 PM (OTzUX)

182 Cops release description of two suspects -- tall black guy and short black guy; a third suspect may have been caught.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 07:50 PM (UHVv4)

183 >>>Something tells me "Beto" just want to be a professional candidate.

Why not? It's not his money; the money comes from his FIL, who must be annoyed of all his losses.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 07:50 PM (VWp7G)

184 In the olden times, ace would create a separate thread for the cat-nip du jour, so as to keep other threads more/less on topic.

He's on vacation.

Posted by: Methos at November 21, 2021 07:51 PM (kOpft)

185 Slowed down? Looked pretty damned deliberate to me.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (Xrfse)

Definitely sped up after it exited the crowd.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 07:51 PM (FKi9J)

186 Slowed down? Looked pretty damned deliberate to me.
Posted by: N

so you think slowed down and deliberate are opposites?

the car slowed down and swerved to the side, I mean it is a vid, how much debate is there?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:51 PM (K3ZCc)

187 Buck Sexton
at_BuckSexton

When 95% of media apparatus and Democrat party constantly yells about "white supremacy" and "white men getting away with murder" and "cops murdering unarmed black men"-

Their propaganda can create a false, hateful and terror-filled vision of America, with horrible consequences

7:40 PM - Nov 21, 2021

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 07:51 PM (Do5/p)

188 SMH, was she abusive to you as well?
Posted by: qdpsteve
___

If you mean that I don't have the right to hurt her feelings by expressing an opinion different from her, then yes.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 07:51 PM (tUVd3)

189 182 Cops release description of two suspects -- tall black guy and short black guy; a third suspect may have been caught.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 07:50 PM (UHVv4)

---------

Probably righteously indignant about George Floyd.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 21, 2021 07:51 PM (VxC1e)

190 Something tells me "Beto" just want to be a professional candidate.

Why not? It's not his money; the money comes from his FIL, who must be annoyed of all his losses.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Why? It keehim from wanting a job in the family business and being a royal fuck up.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 07:52 PM (5t6Zf)

191 Definitely sped up after it exited the crowd.
Posted by: J

in the vid, the brak lights are apparent before they hit anybody

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:52 PM (K3ZCc)

192 I won't bother responding. Back to the gub.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 21, 2021 07:52 PM (Xrfse)

193 Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:50 PM (OTzUX)
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I'm ok if you want to discuss what happened in Waukesha.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:52 PM (0IeYL)

194 @140: "not sure that is true, they slowed down before hitting anybody"

Overhead video shows some initial hesitation, very briefly, but that might have been a sudden realization that they were running over children. Drugged up suicidal race ragers might not have thought through the kid angle before living out their fantasy.

Some police chatter that the shots heard on video were retaliatory PD fire, not from inside the car.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 07:53 PM (+WWsf)

195 I won't bother responding. Back to the gub.
Posted by: N

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:53 PM (K3ZCc)

196 Skip depending on infinite circumstantial variations of course, hollowpoints or expanding projectiles are not "needed" for any common handgun caliber. However some of the better 45ACP varieties (HST, Gold Dot) do have pretty impressive penetration and expansion. "Flying ashtrays".

I believe one of the famous gun trainers/writers/experts always said he used standard 230-grain FMJ ammo in the 1911. Meh. Pretty sure with his skillz, FMJ was just fine.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:54 PM (OTzUX)

197 Posted by: jesse in dc at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (kTRt4)

Congratulations!! SiD and I have had some e-mail contact, and she had invited me and the missus to a recent gun show. wish I could have been there.

anyway. To a long and happy marriage.

*hoists glass of bourbon*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Crossing state lines like a Boss at November 21, 2021 07:54 PM (x8Wzq)

198 jesse in dc

Well, you got an amazing deal in a wonderful woman, Jesse.

May you two crazy kids have a wonderful time getting rid of social distancing.

Congratulations.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 21, 2021 07:54 PM (u82oZ)

199 the vid, the brak lights are apparent before they hit anybody
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:52 PM (K3ZCc)

That has nothing to do with what I wrote but that said , I don't understand the point you're trying to make in general.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 07:55 PM (FKi9J)

200 In the initial run up they missed a toddler by a couple feet.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 07:55 PM (UkBFs)

201 I'm contemplating crossing state lines.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 21, 2021 07:55 PM (II3Gr)

202 JTB what are caps needed for?

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:55 PM (2JoB8)

203 Weasel no, no desire to do the usual livestream of partial early reports myself. Just musing.

And I know ace is on vacation.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:55 PM (OTzUX)

204 190 Something tells me "Beto" just want to be a professional candidate.

I figured here in GA John Ossoff was going to run for 20+ years til he won some job, didn't know he'd become a Senator in his 2nd race....legit for sure though :/

Posted by: ziggggyeeee at November 21, 2021 07:56 PM (AsMdZ)

205 jesse in dc,

Massive congratulations!! So nice to hear good news. My first date with Mrs. JTB was to an indoor target range. 40 years later we are still in love and happier than ever. Many good things happen at gun ranges.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 07:57 PM (7EjX1)

206 That has nothing to do with what I wrote but that said , I don't understand the point you're trying to make in general.
Posted by: J

that is good because I was not addressing your comment, where did you think I was?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:57 PM (K3ZCc)

207 JTB - how did you chat her up on the first date, with hearing protection on?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:57 PM (OTzUX)

208 Do both at once to save time.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 07:29 PM (UkBFs)

Yelling "Fore!" instead of "PUull!"?

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 07:57 PM (Gcsm/)

209 This should start a national conversation about gun control. It proves we need to get AR-15s off the street. And a universal gun registry.

What? They didn't use a gun? Well, that makes my point even stronger!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 07:57 PM (UkBFs)

210 *waves to c5*

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 07:58 PM (tUVd3)

211 SMH!!

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:58 PM (K3ZCc)

212 My Garland Police Dept. cousins would talk about those suspects that ran over an killed little girls.

"Shame they tripped going down the stairs."

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (u82oZ)

213 I'm out for tonight. Can't keep up with both the thread and the post trial analysis. I'll read the content later. Thank you Weasel for the hard work. Later, all!

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (Iw46i)

214 I'm out. Thanks, Weasel.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (Xrfse)

215 > Something tells me "Beto" just want to be a professional candidate.

Or he needed cash. That is the number one reason anyone who really hasn't a chance runs for office... for the cash. Bet on it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (BFigT)

216 202 ... "what are caps needed for?"

Hi Skip,
The caps are for percussion black powder guns.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (7EjX1)

217 Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (Xrfse)
----
'night, amigo.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (0IeYL)

218 >>>"Shame they tripped going down the stairs."
Posted by: NaCly Dog

I mean, accidents happen ya know...

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (VWp7G)

219 Cabela's/Bass Pro Shops will have Walker's Razor electronic ear muffs for $29.97 starting tomorrow as part of their Black Friday week deals.

I've found these to work well, and at this price, you can afford a couple of extra pairs for when you take novices and/or friends to the range.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 08:00 PM (a3Q+t)

220 Wow, it's almost like if you defund the police, and tell them not to enforce the law... criminals run rampant...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 07:32 PM (oHd/0)

Also, some measure of otherwise law-abiding folks, having the legal restraints removed, will now *begin* engaging in criminal behavior.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:00 PM (Gcsm/)

221 what are caps needed for?"

it is how you scream at the hq

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:00 PM (K3ZCc)

222 -
I mentioned how happy I was with the Rittenhouse verdict, and my younger daughter got so angry yesterday.
To say I was gobsmacked would be an understatement.
She actually believes that anything that happens is because of racism and that people deserve what they get.
God help her because I just cannot see anything short of something happening to her (or the g-babies) to change her mind, and to be honest, probably not even then.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 07:48 PM -
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First things first: never take my advice.
Were I you, (never take my advice) from now on, I would constantly describe how every opinion she has is racist. (in the most tortuous, contrived manner possible) You must always remain steadfastly sincere about it.
Once again, and I cannot stress this enough, NO ONE should ever take my advice.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2021 08:00 PM (BB7pQ)

223 Buck Sexton
at_BuckSexton

When 95% of media apparatus and Democrat party constantly yells about "white supremacy" and "white men getting away with murder" and "cops murdering unarmed black men"-

Their propaganda can create a false, hateful and terror-filled vision of America, with horrible consequences

7:40 PM - Nov 21, 2021
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 07:51 PM (Do5/p)
**********
I'm glad that the trial was televised. Many people had only heard about the Rittenhouse case through the MSM propaganda and were surprised to find out just how much they had been lied to about the story.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2021 08:00 PM (NpAcC)

224 Posted by: McGyver at November 21, 2021 07:59 PM (Iw46i)
---
'night, brother.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:00 PM (0IeYL)

225 FMJ was just fine.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 07:54 PM (OTzUX)

Binger said FMJ is super ammo designed to go through targets and kill everyone within range. And through police cars. And body armor.

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:01 PM (mbFEM)

226 Jesse in DC and sid, congratulations! I used to have an old marriage manual around here somewhere, if I can find it....

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 08:01 PM (0OP+5)

227 Back on cigars, for those who like a mellow maduro stick and Oliva quality, their Saison line could be a budget-friendly winner. They come in bundles. Burned a sample earlier this week. Nice rich mellow flavor, wood, earth, some cocoa (if even I can detect these, that's a good sign).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:01 PM (OTzUX)

228 Did anyone else have a couple too many Rittenhouse whiskeys and wake up having ordered a Demilled Polish circle 11 AKM kit? I mean, asking for a friend...

Posted by: Inogame at November 21, 2021 08:01 PM (AytsL)

229 I have an old Lyman Jr press that uses the same dies as their old hand loaders. Smaller than modern dies... I use that to reload 38 special, and 45 ACP, and I have 218 bee dies.
It seems 223 is a bit more modern than old time Lyman dies.
I will find an inexpensive press sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.

Posted by: jesse in dc at November 21, 2021 08:01 PM (kTRt4)

230 What, no one? Once again, I am one lonely lowballer.
Posted by: irright at November 21, 2021 07:33 PM (BB7pQ)

Nah. You're not the only one.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:01 PM (Gcsm/)

231 >>>Wow, it's almost like if you defund the police, and tell them not to enforce the law... criminals run rampant...

Posted by: Romeo13

And if you do, you are punished by said blue city police departments. Or so I've heard... from a friend...

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:02 PM (VWp7G)

232 I'm contemplating crossing state lines.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 21, 2021 07:55 PM

Make sure your tire irons are in a locked container in the trunk.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 08:02 PM (a3Q+t)

233 Weasel, this isn't specifically tied to Waukesha, but what do you think about the practicalities of CCW-ing something a la the SP5K or Mini/Micro Uzi to better the odds should you have a "close encounter of worst kind" like this? Cold weather garb makes it easier to CCW something like these small PCC, and having a couple of 30 round magazines for reloads to a 15 round mag in the firearm means you can bring serious firepower if it's needed. But w/o SBR-ing these, you can't have a forward vertical grip or a collapsible stock.

Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 08:02 PM (NacE+)

234 Still dealing with relatives health and mental competence. Bad combination when having to deal w estate issues.

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2021 08:02 PM (JP+TZ)

235 Posted by: MikeM at November 21, 2021 07:34 PM (jI1b1)

Thanks for the follow-up, MikeM!

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:03 PM (Gcsm/)

236 Report says the suv plowed into a line of young girls who were dancing for the parade

Posted by: SamIam at November 21, 2021 08:03 PM (oasF3)

237 Nevada Dave got some nice etching there

Posted by: Draki at November 21, 2021 08:03 PM (op5te)

238 Buck Sexton recently used a phrase I've been using, probably including here, for over a year. In reference to some topic/phenomenon that, of course, I now can't remember (it's the dain bramage).

Chuckled when I saw him use it in his twatters.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:03 PM (OTzUX)

239 Posted by: irright
___

We left the party early yesterday, and the hub has no desire to see her again anytime soon. Can't say I blame him.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:04 PM (tUVd3)

240 I saw The Green Knight last night. Good acting and visuals.

But...I knew there was going to be a problem when I saw the director was a fervent atheist. Why? King Arthur is sort of a British Jesus in most telling. The Green Knight is mostly about Gawain but Arthur is an important character.

And essentially the story then becomes a story about the fear of death and the pointlessness of life in the face of the nothingness of eternity.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:04 PM (ESjRY)

241 Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 08:02 PM (NacE+)
------
Interesting question. Truthfully, I'd just pick a handgun I was comfortable shooting and practice like hell with it. Much more easily concealed.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:04 PM (0IeYL)

242 But yeah, sooner or later you will buy a used G17 for those 33 rounders.
Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: G19 at November 21, 2021 08:05 PM (a3Q+t)

243 okay, I give. SiD?

Posted by: Infidel at November 21, 2021 08:05 PM (pA4Ca)

244 Get your blunderbuss ready, time to go turkey hunting.

Posted by: JuJuBee at November 21, 2021 08:05 PM (mNhhD)

245 Trump was suppose to be doing a sit down interview with Mark Levin next on Life, Liberty and Levin, but the Waukesha tragedy is taking precedence, which is understandable.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2021 08:05 PM (NpAcC)

246 I finally thoroughly cleaned the M1 Garand we shot in TX. It turns out the ammo we shot there was dirty as hell. My records are incomplete for that can - I think it was from the Greek stock they released years ago. No matter but she can now sleep peacefully until such time she sees daylight again.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2021 08:05 PM (pTr2w)

247 I pray that God heals those families in Waukesha.

Such evil, and the fact that so many will applaud this evil is even more disheartening.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:06 PM (tUVd3)

248 @stillgray 3m

Footage of the attack in downtown Waukesha during the Christmas parade. A man saves a child from being struck.

https://tinyurl.com/yzcngrce

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 08:06 PM (cF8AT)

249 JTB your scaring me from getting one, but if caps can be hand made that's a bonus reason. I plan if getting one to immediately get bullet mold so caps are the only other commodity needed.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:06 PM (2JoB8)

250 Already have commented on rittenhouse pteviously during trial so nothing to add there. The left is going to continue to provoke confrontations so be careful out there.

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2021 08:06 PM (JP+TZ)

251 the entire thing about concealed carry sucks, everybody should just be wearing holsters as they did in the cowboy days

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:06 PM (K3ZCc)

252 > Back on cigars, for those who like a mellow maduro stick and Oliva quality, their Saison line could be a budget-friendly winner.

I've had a variety of Oliva's. Their Melanio's are pretty good, but pricey. The Saison's I've smoked were pretty good too. Hell, I even periodically get a couple Nub's for fun.

(I'm obviously not picky.)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2021 08:06 PM (BFigT)

253 Jesse I don't know your shooting profile and ammo use but Lee's 4-hole turret press, to me, is hard to beat in the non-progressive category. Remove indexing rod (as I do for my 30-06 loading), and, presto, single-stage press. Replace the rod and, for handgun ammo, you can churn out decent amounts using the turret functionality, fairly quickly.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:06 PM (OTzUX)

254 I will find an inexpensive press sooner or later.

Watch craigslist and local garage and estate sale listings. A lot of perfectly good stuff gets let go cheap when someone passes away and nobody in the family knows what to do with it.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 08:07 PM (nfrXX)

255 Multiple fatalities with multiple injuries.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2021 08:07 PM (NpAcC)

256 I'm glad that the trial was televised. Many people had only heard about the Rittenhouse case through the MSM propaganda and were surprised to find out just how much they had been lied to about the story.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2021 08:00 PM
There you go right there, redridinghood.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 08:07 PM (0OP+5)

257 My Traditions Woodsman .50 cal Hawken came in Friday.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 07:41 PM (5t6Zf)

Please let us know how it is! I've heard bad things about the 2 inexpensive brands (Traditions and CVA) and I don't know if they're blowing smoke or an honest appraisal.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:07 PM (Gcsm/)

258 207 ... "how did you chat her up on the first date, with hearing protection on?"

rhomboid,

We had been chatting for years as friends. The range was just our first formal date. It was the first time she had handled any firearm and her accuracy was 'significant'. (Meaning the silhouette target at 50 feet no longer had a middle.) Nothing like starting a relationship with the proper respect. :-)

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (7EjX1)

259 You know I'm pretty sure on the Rekieta Law livestream post verdict they had some comments about having stuff engraved on guns and how that could be a really bad idea if it isn't just a wall hanger

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (vMCab)

260 I would never suggest breaking any laws, but I technically carried for years before my state caught up with me and likely many, many others and went to "constitutional carry". Your personal safety, and that of your family comes first. It's a personal decision, but there is no substitute for effective self defense in a failed or failing state.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (SVPcU)

261 Apparently either 1 or 2 of the at large perps have been trying to get into some homes. Residents are on the phone with police.

You can follow along here...

https://tinyurl.com/ye9lalpm
Scroll to bottom

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (cF8AT)

262 It was a red suv, just like a red MAGA hat. We are not going to speculate, but it was probably Donald trump himself driving.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (UkBFs)

263 Nevada Dave got some nice etching there
Posted by: Draki

If Nevada Dave asked a comely coed to come up to his room to view his etchings, I think he'd actually show her his gun!

hehe.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (pTr2w)

264 @Ed L. Saw a meme about Fall. Girls be like "ooh it's autumn I can totally wear this cute scarf!"

Guys be like "I can carry my full size Glock with surefire light and 4 extra mags!"

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (mbFEM)

265 The left has been arguing that every time some one tried to drive out of a riot that they were just "mowing through a crowd".

Looks like some angry goblins decided to try it themselves this time. Only instead of a flash riot they were trapped in it was a truly peaceful gathering they went into.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:09 PM (ESjRY)

266 Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at November 21, 2021 07:42 PM (EjmvJ)

I get the page isn't there.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:09 PM (Gcsm/)

267 Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (vMCab)
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I think I heard part of that, too.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:09 PM (0IeYL)

268 Oh, I will say get the law of self defense book especially with the situation now. How much is your liberty worth?

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2021 08:09 PM (JP+TZ)

269 "I first zeroed an M16 in, ahem, 1984."

1984 for me also. Fort Benning Georgia. Never did so many pushups. I was kinda of a screw up.

Posted by: noseitall at November 21, 2021 08:09 PM (lMsxO)

270 She actually believes that anything that happens is because of racism and that people deserve what they get.
God help her because I just cannot see anything short of something happening to her (or the g-babies) to change her mind, and to be honest, probably not even then.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 07:48 PM -

Ask her if its RACE, or culture.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 08:09 PM (oHd/0)

271 If Nevada Dave asked a comely coed to come up to his room to view his etchings, I think he'd actually show her his gun!

hehe.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (pTr2w)

Ain't that where we all keep our favorite guns? 1911, check

Posted by: Draki at November 21, 2021 08:10 PM (op5te)

272 I just don't know a comfortable way to carry. I am a little... fluffy around the middle.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 08:10 PM (UkBFs)

273 Posted by: jesse in dc at November 21, 2021 07:44 PM (kTRt4)

CONGRATULATIONS!!! *blows noisemaker*
The best to you both!

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:10 PM (Gcsm/)

274 249 ... Skip,
Are you thinking of a revolver or rifle?

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 08:11 PM (7EjX1)

275 Martini I have had disappointing times with Nubs so far, but I think mostly due to cigar condition/my pace of consumption at the time (bitterness and char coming into the picture). Only the maduro version, so far, has been as good as I expected. Had 2nd Cameroon a few days ago, it's been in my humidor for 6 weeks, no question of condition, but again, so-so and then harshness. Puzzling.

Want to try the sumatra, that kind of wrapper generally appeals to me.

Right now Cigar.com has a 20-pack of Oliva Vs/V melanios/maduros for $120, which is not bad for that line, and gives exposure to all the variations.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:11 PM (OTzUX)

276 I saw The Green Knight last night. Good acting and visuals.

But...I knew there was going to be a problem when I saw the director was a fervent atheist. Why? King Arthur is sort of a British Jesus in most telling. The Green Knight is mostly about Gawain but Arthur is an important character.

And essentially the story then becomes a story about the fear of death and the pointlessness of life in the face of the nothingness of eternity.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:04 PM (ESjRY)

I was tempted to watch, but I think I'll just reread the books or watch Excalibur.

Posted by: Draki at November 21, 2021 08:12 PM (op5te)

277 Oh, I will say get the law of self defense book especially with the situation now. How much is your liberty worth?
Posted by: whig
___

If I use a firearm here in IL to defend myself, I'm going to jail/prison since I'm not even allowed to have a gun.

And I will happily go to jail/prison if that's the case.

That's how much liberty means to me.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:12 PM (tUVd3)

278 You know I'm pretty sure on the Rekieta Law livestream post verdict they had some comments about having stuff engraved on guns and how that could be a really bad idea if it isn't just a wall hanger

Yeah, I saw that. Basically, any modification that can be twisted to claim that you had a bad attitude will be used to push the idea that you "wanted" to shoot somebody. When I bought my EOTech, I could have gotten the cover engraved with "FRONT TOWARD ENEMY" for free but decided not to, even though I thought it was amusing.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 08:13 PM (nfrXX)

279 JTB, nice!

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:14 PM (OTzUX)

280 More video...

https://tinyurl.com/yfzqjgws

After the first 30 seconds, there isn't much to see.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 08:14 PM (cF8AT)

281 I just don't know a comfortable way to carry. I am a little... fluffy around the middle.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

You and me both Brother. Believe it or not, IAC works pretty well for me in the summertime. Now of course, since I am wearing winter coats, OWB feels a bit more comfortable.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2021 08:14 PM (pTr2w)

282 Ask her if its RACE, or culture.
Posted by: Romeo13
___

I would, but I have no desire to talk to her about anything right now.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:14 PM (tUVd3)

283 Starting to shed bandwidth. Saw 3 bytes / sec a tad ago.

Thank you Weasel. Much appreciated.

Have a wonderful night, everyone.

JiDC and SiD are blessed for sure.

May your dreams be full of peace and love.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 21, 2021 08:14 PM (u82oZ)

284 Niters, Salty.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM (tUVd3)

285 Remember all the wedding planning we did for ace? Should we dig up that old thread and then do that for the gub thread matrimonials?

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM (mbFEM)

286 Recommended Engraving

PLEASE LORD LET ME NEVER HAVE TO USE YOU

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM (FKi9J)

287 242 But yeah, sooner or later you will buy a used G17 for those 33 rounders.
Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 07:21 PM

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: G19 at November 21, 2021 08:05 PM
You know the answer. A G19 mag comes up 'short' and can't 'satisfy' a G17. I hate to use such indelicate terms but there it is.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM (0OP+5)

288 SiD is Screaming in Digital, her nic

Posted by: jesse in dc at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM (kTRt4)

289 And essentially the story then becomes a story about the fear of death and the pointlessness of life in the face of the nothingness of eternity.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:04 PM

Interesting, as this has become my mentality the last few months after losing faith in everything, including the existence of a god (or gods). To not hijack the thread, I'll just leave it at that.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM (Do5/p)

290 JTB I want a revolver, Colt Dragoon

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM (2JoB8)

291 it looks like they found the SUV, showing earlier reports of arresting folks may have been wrong. the front end of the SUV is, sadly unsurprisingly, fucked the fuck up

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:16 PM (ZZK0E)

292 Broadcastify scanner of Waukesha, WI. I think they've about got it wrapped up. Ending the reverse 911 shelter in place. No word on perps.

https://tinyurl.com/jxjbshsm

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2021 08:16 PM (BFigT)

293 I get up state that way I'm getting one

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:16 PM (2JoB8)

294 SiD is Screaming in Digital, her nic
Posted by: jesse in dc

Thanks, and may you both have a long, loving wonderful life. Congrats.

Posted by: Infidel at November 21, 2021 08:16 PM (pA4Ca)

295 More video...

https://tinyurl.com/yfzqjgws

After the first 30 seconds, there isn't much to see.
Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 08:14 PM (cF8AT)

Horrible, praying for them

Posted by: Draki at November 21, 2021 08:16 PM (op5te)

296 jesse in dc, congrats.

A spouse you can lean on is invaluable, especially in these times.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:17 PM (tUVd3)

297 So, I've been away from teh internets for a while.

Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:17 PM (llXky)

298 Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 21, 2021 08:14 PM (u82oZ)
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night, amigo!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:17 PM (0IeYL)

299 >>>Such evil, and the fact that so many will applaud this evil is even more disheartening.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return

They'll blame it on Rittenhouse, and say it was necessary because of social justice. CNN and MSNBC will run with it, because they are despicable people.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:17 PM (VWp7G)

300 Starting to shed bandwidth. Saw 3 bytes / sec a tad ago.

Check to see if the phone handset has slipped in the foam coupler rings.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 08:18 PM (nfrXX)

301 Not wrapped until perps are in custody alive or dead

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:18 PM (2JoB8)

302 @SpectrumNews1WI 3m

BREAKING: The Waukesha PD have issued a shelter in place. Please remain inside!

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 08:18 PM (cF8AT)

303 Here's hoping the perps have fatal "accidents" soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 08:19 PM (L2ZTs)

304 And essentially the story then becomes a story about the fear of death and the pointlessness of life in the face of the nothingness of eternity.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:04 PM (ESjRY)
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I thought it was an elaborate joke on feminists. "What do women want most?"

"To have their way!"

Isn't that the riddle or am I thinking of something else?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:19 PM (llXky)

305 I was tempted to watch, but I think I'll just reread the books or watch Excalibur

It is a good movie...but with a terrible message.

I kept comparing it to Excalibur and I think the acting is better in this one but...one can't see Arthur letting Gawain wander off to his inevitable death without much of a care and just point out that's why Arthur/Jesus IS here.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:19 PM (ESjRY)

306 So, I've been away from teh internets for a while.

Did I miss anything?

Yeah. Ace is taking a few days off.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 08:19 PM (nfrXX)

307 >>>Here's hoping the perps have fatal "accidents" soon.
Posted by: qdpsteve

They were just turning their lives around.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:19 PM (VWp7G)

308 SiD is Screaming in Digital, her nic
Posted by: jesse in dc

Congrats Jesse and SiD! Hope y'all include some gunmetal for the ceremony

Posted by: Draki at November 21, 2021 08:20 PM (op5te)

309 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM (Do5/p)

Truly sorry to hear that. Losing faith is the devil's goal. Personally I'll never let him win no matter what happens to me in this life.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:20 PM (FKi9J)

310 yeah, not going to watch anymore waukesha videos. Hopefully it's just 1 dead.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:21 PM (ZZK0E)

311 I too am a huge fan of the Lee Turret press, also for single stage(you'll find you need a single stage for a bunch of reasons) I love my Lee breech lock.

Posted by: ck at November 21, 2021 08:21 PM (iBg56)

312 I thought it was an elaborate joke on feminists. "What do women want most?"

"To have their way!"

There is one point where Gawain lets a noble woman that's been trying to get it on with him give him a handy.

Afterwards she says something like, "Having sex with a married lady? Well not much of a knight are you?" I just wanted Gawain to lop Lady Karen's head off for that one.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (ESjRY)

313 Weasel, although something like the SP5K or Mini/Micro Uzi may seem better than a handgun on paper, I think you're right; the handgun is a more practical choice. Unless you have previous experience carrying something like these small PCC, concealing these would be more challenging than even a service sized handgun. And, unless you're carrying more magazines than John Wick, you're lugging around less weight.

Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (NacE+)

314 My first M-16 zeroing, Ft Leonard Wood, 1989. The base CSM came to watch and as he's walking the line shaking his head, he stops at my target, looks back at me, gives me a big thumbs-up, and yells out something like "Now that's how we do it!" Tight, 3-round shot grouping. I took riflery at Camp Minnehaha as a kid for 3 years. "One round load" (click) "Take aim" (aim) "Fire when ready" (bam) Loved it.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (KAi1n)

315 Losing faith is the devil's goal.
___

This is true.

Stan is not worth losing my faith over.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (tUVd3)

316 Guessing a dozen on ground with group over each, doesn't mean fatalities just down not walking.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (2JoB8)

317 Helter Skelter. Blood on media's hands

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (QZ/dC)

318 I'm contemplating crossing state lines.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 21, 2021 07:55 PM (II3Gr)
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Did you see the book thread? Someone suggested I do a book about Chinese hookers and blow. I figured you'd be my co-author and primary researcher.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (llXky)

319 Arm yourselves, people. Not that this needs to be said on the gun thread.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 07:46 PM (bkUtD)

And ponder having something in your arsenal big enough to stop a car. (It might not fully do so, but I've been pondering a .50 Beowulf for some time now.)

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:23 PM (Gcsm/)

320 WI doesn't have a death penalty, so I hope the goblins don't make it to the jury.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:23 PM (ESjRY)

321 Waukesha is a lovely town. We stayed in a downtown hotel many, many times when visiting our family. It's not perfect but very nice considering that it's so close to Milwaukee.
Last text from my niece was heartbreaking. While she and my nephew were watching the videos they recognized several friends. She told me their friends have children in the parade.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 21, 2021 08:23 PM (2NHgQ)

322 Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (NacE+)
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Yep. Kind of what I was thinking.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:23 PM (0IeYL)

323 It is a good movie...but with a terrible message.

I kept comparing it to Excalibur and I think the acting is better in this one but...one can't see Arthur letting Gawain wander off to his inevitable death without much of a care and just point out that's why Arthur/Jesus IS here.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:19 PM (ESjRY)

Guess I'll skip it. I prefer Authurian tales with good messages. It doesn't even have to be a moral message about good vs. evil. I'd get furious with trying to say that Arthur wouldn't care if Gawain went and died.

Posted by: Draki at November 21, 2021 08:23 PM (op5te)

324 Helter Skelter. Blood on media's hands

Yep. The FNM draws power by creating fake outrages that lead directly to things like this.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:24 PM (ESjRY)

325 JTB I want a revolver, Colt Dragoon
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM

1st, 2nd, or 3rd Model? Or

"Go big, or go home." -- Col. Samuel Walker

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 08:24 PM (a3Q+t)

326 Yeah we might be on our own this week the Cobs and us.
How ever will we entertain ourselves?

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:24 PM (2JoB8)

327 Jesse Jackson Jr protesting Kyle's acquittal. I wonder if he'll be asked about Waukesha tomorrow??

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1462170329342783492

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 08:24 PM (UHVv4)

328 I was pooper scooping today, a chore I find rather unpleasant, so I listen to music as I scoop away. Then this song came on which I previously was unaware of.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zRrTCIJqm5E

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 08:25 PM (FVME7)

329 Range report: Well, it only took 3 weekends but I finally got a good zero on my AR with red dot. Many lessons were learned (which will likely be forgotten) but for now I shall bask in the feeling of accomplishment.

On the pistola side of things, switched up to my 92FS to continue my experiments with recoil mitigation. There's a faint outline of something coming together on the subject but I can't say for certain. I also recently replaced the factory sights with some Wilson Combat sights and was very happy with the results. I've never liked 3 dot sights (always seemed too busy to me) so I'm really digging the change.

Posted by: Thicc Boi at November 21, 2021 08:25 PM (zThcc)

330 314 My first M-16 zeroing, Ft Leonard Wood

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (KAi1n)
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Fort Lost in the Woods. I remember it well. Took me three times to qualify. Just before the final attempt, the incoming company commander (who was from Michigan like me) handed me a fist-sized rock and said "This is your lucky rock. You will qualify on this round and then will carry this rock with you everywhere. Do you understand?"

"Yes, sir!"

And I qualified. Still have the rock, too.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:25 PM (llXky)

331 Viva Frei just said "wreak ha-vok".

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 21, 2021 08:25 PM (ybIRR)

332 >>Not wrapped until perps are in custody alive or dead
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:18 PM (2JoB

Preferably dead.

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at November 21, 2021 08:25 PM (yi2jh)

333 Stopping a car, hmm maybe
Ma Deuce or 20mm

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:26 PM (2JoB8)

334 Posted by: Thicc Boi at November 21, 2021 08:25 PM (zThcc)
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Good job!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:26 PM (0IeYL)

335 Local CBS reporter tweeted that police are SWAT'd up around a house one block away from where the SUV was found; five or ten minutes ago.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 08:26 PM (+WWsf)

336 Viva Frei just said "wreak ha-vok".
Posted by: BourbonChicken

They only think they want that.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 08:26 PM (5t6Zf)

337 so jackson is protesting white on white crime, I guess he solved all the black on black .

Posted by: cya4+1 at November 21, 2021 08:26 PM (oSX/P)

338 Stopping a car, hmm maybe
Ma Deuce or 20mm
Posted by: Skip

I am partial to the Bofors 40mm but dayum!, that is a beast to haul around.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2021 08:27 PM (pTr2w)

339 Blood on media's hands

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at November 21, 2021 08:22 PM (QZ/dC)

And they would be smart to remember Julius S was hanged at Nuremburg. He was "only a newspaper publisher."

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:27 PM (7bRMQ)

340 Aghani "refugee" wouldn't surprise me. The Usual Suspects versus Rittenhouse, it just doesn't add up. But we'll see, I guess.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 21, 2021 08:27 PM (SVPcU)

341 aiwb

trex and tier 1 have some nice thing
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 07:49 PM (K3ZCc)

Ugh. I cannot bring myself to do appendix carry. There's me in the way. And the whole poking-me-in-the-gut thing. And sitting down. I haven't figured out how I could possibly carry that way.

I'm stuck with IWB strong side, maybe SOB, and shoulder.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:27 PM (Gcsm/)

342 so jackson is protesting white on white crime, I guess he solved all the black on black .

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from what msnbc tells me the only violence in america is from the police and white men. So, I ask you, what B on B violence?

right? let's check the stats.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:28 PM (ZZK0E)

343
I kept comparing it to Excalibur and I think the acting is better in this one but...one can't see Arthur letting Gawain wander off to his inevitable death without much of a care and just point out that's why Arthur/Jesus IS here.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:19 PM (ESjRY)
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Does it have a hottie getting banged by a dude in mirror-polished full Gothic plate?

Because that was pretty epic if you were of a certain age.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:28 PM (llXky)

344 Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:08 PM (mbFEM)

Blaster, I think I saw that too, except it had a full sized 1911 instead of the Glock 17.

Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 08:28 PM (NacE+)

345 Posted by: Thicc Boi at November 21, 2021 08:25 PM (zThcc)

I did a lefty thing and was critical of the military's choice of the 92f without even trying it. I then bought one to go with my CX Storm carbine. The 92f is an excellent pistol.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:28 PM (FKi9J)

346 JTB I want a revolver, Colt Dragoon
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:15 PM

1st, 2nd, or 3rd Model? Or

"Go big, or go home." -- Col. Samuel Walker

Posted by: Duncanthrax

1847 Colt Walker. 4.9 lbs of steel.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 08:29 PM (5t6Zf)

347 Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:19 PM (ESjRY)

A Large subtext of the Arthur stories was about Christian Knights, forcing back the Pagans.

In some ways, it's about Judeo Christian Western Civilization, vs the forces of darkness.

Am I correct in assuming they pretty much just wrote that out of the Green Knight? Because it was a HUGE part of the original mythology.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2021 08:29 PM (oHd/0)

348 Hey, Weasel! How do I convince you to come up for the AKMOME? I'm told you are THE rifleman. We certainly will need a rifleman, but mostly we need YOU.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 08:29 PM (r9FP4)

349 Yeah we might be on our own this week the Cobs and us.
How ever will we entertain ourselves?
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:24 PM

ace is popping in as a Commenter from time to time. Do not try to slide a subtle jape concerning power drill into the Comment Stream.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 08:29 PM (a3Q+t)

350 Blood on media's hands

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Enemy of the people

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 08:30 PM (FVME7)

351 I'd get furious with trying to say that Arthur wouldn't care if Gawain went and died.

The basic idea seems to be since death is inevitable no one really cares if Gawain will die within the year, at the hands of the Green Knight, or if he'll live a long time and die a disappointed ruler.

It is a very modern movie, and I can't think of a more accurate capturing of the current cultural moment. We just happen to have a terrible culture.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:30 PM (ESjRY)

352 348 Hey, Weasel! How do I convince you to come up for the AKMOME? I'm told you are THE rifleman. We certainly will need a rifleman, but mostly we need YOU.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 08:29 PM (r9FP4)
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Man, that's one hell of a drive from Virginia! Although I've always wanted to see AK.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:30 PM (0IeYL)

353 Jackson is a douchebag. Truly sad that people with such fame and celebrity can be so fucked in the head and consciously choose to go with lies and deceit and make things worse and enrich themselves in the process.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 21, 2021 08:30 PM (SVPcU)

354 I did a lefty thing and was critical of the military's choice of the 92f without even trying it. I then bought one to go with my CX Storm carbine. The 92f is an excellent pistol.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:28 PM (FKi9J)
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You buried the lede: The CX4 Storm is an awesome pistol carbine. I mean, Paul Harrell has one. Need I say more?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:31 PM (llXky)

355 >>>And ponder having something in your arsenal big enough to stop a car. (It might not fully do so, but I've been pondering a .50 Beowulf for some time now.)
Posted by: GWB

Plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:31 PM (VWp7G)

356 Stopping a car, hmm maybe
Ma Deuce or 20mm
Posted by: Skip

I am partial to the Bofors 40mm but dayum!, that is a beast to haul around.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2021 08:27 PM

An Ontos will haul 6 rounds of sweet 105mm for you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2021 08:32 PM (a3Q+t)

357
Am I correct in assuming they pretty much just wrote that out of the Green Knight? Because it was a HUGE part of the original mythology.

Not exactly. They take Arthur and the Knights as being in their twilight - they've pushed civilization into the darkness and now darkness will come back, whether sooner or later it does not matter.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:32 PM (ESjRY)

358 I sure hope grammie and the Rev weren't there.

Posted by: Infidel at November 21, 2021 08:32 PM (pA4Ca)

359 350 Blood on media's hands

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you can put together a bunch of tweets calling for blood from wisconsin. I saw a bunch of Netlflix woke whores being compiled doing just that.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:32 PM (ZZK0E)

360 >>>Local CBS reporter tweeted that police are SWAT'd up around a house one block away from where the SUV was found; five or ten minutes ago.
Posted by: Walter Freeman

Flashbangs, battering ram, repeat.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (VWp7G)

361 Streicher wasn't just a publisher; he did content too.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (KAi1n)

362 Recoiless Rifle

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (2JoB8)

363 Arm yourselves, people. Not that this needs to be said on the gun thread.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 07:46 PM (bkUtD)

So we should we buying guns? And ammo?

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (mbFEM)

364 lol, 40 watts ain't gonna do shit

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (ZZK0E)

365 Ugh. I cannot bring myself to do appendix carry. There's me in the way. And the whole poking-me-in-the-gut thing. And sitting down. I haven't figured out how I could possibly carry that way.

I'm stuck with IWB strong side, maybe SOB, and shoulder.
Posted by: G

If I had my druthers I would have a chest rig

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (K3ZCc)

366 Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 08:02 PM (NacE+)

In Virginia I'd bet you'd be illegal, since our carry permit is ONLY for handguns. If they *are* actual PCCs, you'd be concealing a rifle and headed to the hoosegow.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:34 PM (Gcsm/)

367 Flashbangs, battering ram, repeat.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (VWp7G)
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Get me some howitzers!

Posted by: Home Office Secretary Winston Churchill at November 21, 2021 08:34 PM (llXky)

368 An Ontos will haul 6 rounds of sweet 105mm for you.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

True dat but the gasoline powered engine, and especially the fuel tank, always gave me pause.

Now granted, if one were to magically appear in my garage. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2021 08:34 PM (pTr2w)

369 >>>So we should we buying guns? And ammo?
Posted by: blaster

"Eh, ya night rabbit, ya might."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:34 PM (VWp7G)

370 .30-06 or, something hard cast in the smaller rounds. The damage a car or truck can do is something I've pondered for a while. Keep your head on a swivel at all times. Everything gets worse before it gets worse, at this point.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 21, 2021 08:35 PM (SVPcU)

371 Stop a car?

12 gauge with discarding sabot slugs will do, yah?

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:35 PM (mbFEM)

372 Streicher wasn't just a publisher; he did content too.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (KAi1n)
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Wasn't the core principle of the war crimes tribunals that some people just need hangin'?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:35 PM (llXky)

373 Just turned on the news. WTH in WI??

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 08:35 PM (ptqGC)

374 I guess he solved all the black on black [crime].
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That scared him too.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 08:36 PM (UHVv4)

375 okay, I give. SiD?
Posted by: Infidel at November 21, 2021 08:05 PM (pA4Ca)

"Screaming in Digital", her moniker here.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:36 PM (Gcsm/)

376 Have the killers been ID'd yet?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2021 08:36 PM (ESjRY)

377 >>>Just turned on the news. WTH in WI??
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Evil lives among us.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:36 PM (VWp7G)

378 40mm Bofors is bulky - and a bit showy, perhaps - but it has those cool clips of ammo, which look like 7.62X54R stripper clips plussed up 7X. Should stop most cars, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:36 PM (OTzUX)

379 You buried the lede: The CX4 Storm is an awesome pistol carbine. I mean, Paul Harrell has one. Need I say more?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:31 PM (llXky)

Agree. Pretty awesome . I need to buy some 30 rd mags . I have plenty of 20 rounders.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:36 PM (FKi9J)

380 Local CBS reporter tweeted that police are SWAT'd up around a house one block away from where the SUV was found; five or ten minutes ago.
Posted by: Walter Freeman

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oh my.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:36 PM (ZZK0E)

381 Streicher wasn't just a publisher; he did content too.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (KAi1n)

Yeah, I know he was also a gau leiter, but I think he was pushed out of any influential positions early in the war. Still got hanged, though. The press needs to remember that.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:37 PM (7bRMQ)

382 Stopping a car, hmm maybe
Ma Deuce or 20mm
Skip at November 21, 2021 08:26 PM (2JoB

25mm HE-I from the M242 chain gun on a Bradley or LAV-25 will definitely get the job done. It does make a mess, though.

Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 08:37 PM (NacE+)

383 There'll be no tribunal for the "press". And given the state of the populace, no consequences of any kind.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:37 PM (OTzUX)

384 @373: "Just turned on the news. WTH in WI??"

Press conference top of the hour, but they've already bumped it once or twice, and it sounds like they're waiting for an active police situation to resolve itself soon.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 08:37 PM (+WWsf)

385 My first thought goes to: revenge for Kyle verdict??

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 08:38 PM (ptqGC)

386 Eyebrow transplant.

Carry on.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 08:38 PM (UkBFs)

387 I wonder if the scumbags in WI will claim self defense? It worked for Kyle after all. sarc/
If that is even needed.
Best case, they try and shoot it out with the cops.
Bester case, napalm and cluster bombs.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at November 21, 2021 08:38 PM (BSV0x)

388 y first thought goes to: revenge for Kyle verdict??
Posted by: J

zh has the vids

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:38 PM (K3ZCc)

389 352 348 Hey, Weasel! How do I convince you to come up for the AKMOME? I'm told you are THE rifleman. We certainly will need a rifleman, but mostly we need YOU.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 08:29 PM (r9FP4)
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Man, that's one hell of a drive from Virginia! Although I've always wanted to see AK.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:30 PM
If I win the superpowerlottabawl you can use my Gulfstream.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 08:38 PM (0OP+5)

390 Streicher wasn't just a publisher; he did content too.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (KAi1n)
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Wasn't the core principle of the war crimes tribunals that some people just need hangin'?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:35 PM (llXk

Yet Albert Speer basically got away with a slap on the wrist. I think he was a Democrat and not a Nazi.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:39 PM (FKi9J)

391 Evil lives among us.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

And broadcasts on MSNBC and CNN.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 08:39 PM (FVME7)

392 >>>Bester case, napalm and cluster bombs.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote

Best case, burn the house down like the Union did to John Wilkes Booth.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:39 PM (VWp7G)

393 Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:30 PM
If I win the superpowerlottabawl you can use my Gulfstream.
Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 08:38 PM (0OP+5)
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Thanks, amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:39 PM (0IeYL)

394 Driver hit 30 young girls, dance troupe, in parade.
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God damn it. Every person in the "CROSSING STATE LINES" montage should feel responsible for this.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 21, 2021 08:40 PM (sGnvY)

395 Streicher needed hangin', but then again so did Speer. And many thousands of others who either got short jail terms or nothing at all, right through the various waves of West German trials after Nuremberg. At least Peiper got his from free-lancers in the 70s.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:40 PM (OTzUX)

396 I was just on a long convo with a girlfriend from NYC, and I was telling her about my days at NBC Atlanta bureau when I was an idiot liberal.

And then I tune in to this.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 08:40 PM (ptqGC)

397 "Evil Lives Among Us"

Well don't forget they imported 13,000 Afghanis to Ft. McCoy, just in case the Evil needs a little bolstering.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 21, 2021 08:41 PM (SVPcU)

398 Driver hit 30 young girls, dance troupe, in parade.
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God damn it. Every person in the "CROSSING STATE LINES" montage should feel responsible for this.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton

When have we had enough? When does the "light switch" get flipped?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 08:41 PM (5t6Zf)

399 So we should we buying guns? And ammo?

"Lots of guns and lots of ammo will get you through times of no courage far better than lots of courage will get you through times without guns or ammo." Sergeant Major Barton, ROK 1951-53, SVN 1967-68, 1970, 1972

Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 08:41 PM (NacE+)

400 I was just on a long convo with a girlfriend from NYC, and I was telling her about my days at NBC Atlanta bureau when I was an idiot liberal.

And then I tune in to this.
Posted by: J

in fairness, we do not know what this is for now

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:41 PM (K3ZCc)

401 Do I keep saying Nevada Dan? Nevada Dave.

Sheesh.

But still. Want

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:42 PM (mbFEM)

402 Man, that's one hell of a drive from Virginia! Although I've always wanted to see AK.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:30 PM (0IeYL)

I ran into a couple dudes in sturgis one year, rode harleys from alaska. They said it was like 3800 miles, took them 9 days and had to get new tires during the trip. Whats that expression... oh yeah, fuuuuuuck that. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 08:42 PM (VwHCD)

403 Yet Albert Speer basically got away with a slap on the wrist. I think he was a Democrat and not a Nazi.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:39 PM (FKi9J)

Well, 20 years is a pretty hard slap. Read his prison diaries, self serving. Took some responsibility, but only just enough to avoid hanging too.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:42 PM (7bRMQ)

404 Goddamned Drudge has the lede McConnaghy up over Abbott in TX. Just in case you were wondering

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 21, 2021 08:43 PM (jtzM6)

405 Waukesha is Mrs. JTB's hometown and she still has family there. Just found out that the granddaughter of one of her cousins was in the parade and injured in the melee. Hurt shoulder and possible concussion. Her cousin will keep us informed.

I WANT THESE BASTARDS CAUGHT AND DISEMBOWLED ... SLOWLY ... IN PUBLIC!!! The authorities can hold a lottery to see who gets to spit on the remains.

Yeah, I am pissed off.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 08:43 PM (7EjX1)

406 Quit taking the Lord's name in vain.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:43 PM (tUVd3)

407 I was making a section 230 joke....
SiD broke a few hearts here; after all, an ette who chose a Queensryche song for a nic?
To paraphrase, sometimes you just gotta take a hanging. Though IIRC, a couple guys suffocated rather slowly and a couple more died (slowly) from blunt force trauma.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:44 PM (KAi1n)

408 CBS asshole.

Chris Wiggins
@CWNewser
It's okay. The driver in Waukesha was afraid for his life and defending himself from the unarmed holiday crowd. That's Wisconsin law now.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 08:44 PM (FVME7)

409 Prayers up, JTB.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:44 PM (tUVd3)

410 Recoilless Rifle
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Davey Crockett

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 08:45 PM (UHVv4)

411 When have we had enough? When does the "light switch" get flipped?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2021 08:41 PM (5t6Zf)

No shit man..no shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 08:45 PM (VwHCD)

412 408 CBS asshole.

Chris Wiggins
@CWNewser
It's okay. The driver in Waukesha was afraid for his life and defending himself from the unarmed holiday crowd. That's Wisconsin law now.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 08:44 PM (FVME7)

Prediction on how quickly he deletes that?

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2021 08:45 PM (vMCab)

413 Davey Crockett
Posted by: a

do you need pal for that?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (K3ZCc)

414 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 08:42 PM (VwHCD)
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Just looked - it's a 70 hour drive!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (0IeYL)

415 Re Fatboi Goldberg and Steve Restingbitchface Hayes: maybe they can get their buddy Bret Baier to quit so he can hang out with them.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (KiBMU)

416 I ran into a couple dudes in sturgis one year, rode harleys from alaska. They said it was like 3800 miles, took them 9 days and had to get new tires during the trip. Whats that expression... oh yeah, fuuuuuuck that. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 08:42 PM (VwHCD)

Oh, so they were wanna be bikers! My dad said if you can't do 1k a day, put the bike away! (not really, but he might have)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (7bRMQ)

417 Prediction on how quickly he deletes that?
Posted by: b

he should wait, give him something to to in the unemployment line

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (K3ZCc)

418 Would think Crocketts were out of the inventory before PALs, or at least real, decents ones, but not sure.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (OTzUX)

419 Strange happemings in Waukesha. Power out i part of the city. Unknown cause. College campus now on lockdown. Telling people within 5 miles of downtown to shelter in place. Starting to think this might be ROP?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (Y+l9t)

420 Evil lives among us.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

It is promoted and protected. This must end.

Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (r1z5A)

421 Chris Wiggins
@CWNewser
It's okay. The driver in Waukesha was afraid for his life and defending himself from the unarmed holiday crowd. That's Wisconsin law now.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Prediction on how quickly he deletes that?
Posted by: buzzion

In my fevered dreams, I am his boss and have called him into the office. At the end of the day, my horsewhip is worn out.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (pTr2w)

422 Waukesha is Mrs. JTB's hometown and she still has family there. Just found out that the granddaughter of one of her cousins was in the parade and injured in the melee. Hurt shoulder and possible concussion. Her cousin will keep us informed.

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wow, prayers up and keep us posted. give us some deets if poss

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (ZZK0E)

423 Chrissy Wiggins has sipped a lot of cock, you can tell. And his shits all fucked up.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (SVPcU)

424 @408: "CBS asshole."

He was dumb enough to tweet out the same line three different times too. There's a reason why he's a former CBS local reporter.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (+WWsf)

425 I don't want to sound, you know, optimistic or anything, but seems like the pendulum may be swinging back.

At a minimum we got some Ws on the board these past few weeks.

Be thankful.

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (mbFEM)

426 Would think Crocketts were out of the inventory before PALs, or at least real, decents ones, but not sure.
Posted by: r

singl digit spinning combo lock?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (K3ZCc)

427 412 408 CBS asshole.

Chris Wiggins
@CWNewser
It's okay. The driver in Waukesha was afraid for his life and defending himself from the unarmed holiday crowd. That's Wisconsin law now.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 08:44 PM (FVME7)

Prediction on how quickly he deletes that?
Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2021 08:45 PM (vMCab

I just took a screen shot of that trash.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (ptqGC)

428 But Weasel it's now a cheese-ass trip, the Al-Can is paved most of the way. Real men dealt with gravel. Even more real men were happy with corduroy roads.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (OTzUX)

429 It is promoted and protected. This must end.
Posted by: Some Rat
___

It will when Jesus returns. not before.

In fact, it will get much worse.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:48 PM (tUVd3)

430 Sorry, 1/2 mi radiusof downtown(not 5 miles)

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 08:48 PM (Y+l9t)

431 Oh, so they were wanna be bikers! My dad said if you can't do 1k a day, put the bike away! (not really, but he might have)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (7bRMQ)
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My father to this day remains proud that he rode his bike to Florida and back from Michigan in the 70s. He felt it was a solid ride.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 08:48 PM (llXky)

432 Local CBS reporter tweeted that police are SWAT'd up around a house one block away from where the SUV was found; five or ten minutes ago.
Posted by: Walter Freeman

Flashbangs, battering ram, repeat.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (VWp7G)

Some people deserve a daisy cutter.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 08:48 PM (VwHCD)

433 428 But Weasel it's now a cheese-ass trip, the Al-Can is paved most of the way. Real men dealt with gravel. Even more real men were happy with corduroy roads.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (OTzUX)
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Well it does look like a pretty straight route!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:49 PM (0IeYL)

434 I'm praying hard.

Posted by: Infidel at November 21, 2021 08:49 PM (pA4Ca)

435 Some people deserve a daisy cutter.
Posted by: B

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 08:49 PM (K3ZCc)

436 @412: "Prediction on how quickly he deletes that?'

Unlikely. He already went viral, and his most recent tweet says: "The right wingers are pretty triggered right now." He seems like the proud ideological activist type, and again, I'm guessing there's a good reason why he's a former reporter, and currently freelancing.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 08:49 PM (+WWsf)

437 409 ... Thanks, SMH. She is a sweet girl. Her high school band was playing in the parade.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 08:50 PM (7EjX1)

438 412 Prediction on how quickly he deletes that?
Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2021 08:45 PM (vMCab)

Even if he does, it's already been archived for posterity:

https://archive.ph/hgxou

What a piece of shit.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 21, 2021 08:50 PM (DTX3h)

439 Flashbangs, battering ram, repeat.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 08:33 PM (VWp7G)

As long as it's the RIGHT house.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:51 PM (Gcsm/)

440 Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:42 PM (7bRMQ)

Relatively speaking of course. He was likely Hitler's closest confidant .

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:51 PM (FKi9J)

441 418 Would think Crocketts were out of the inventory before PALs, or at least real, decents ones, but not sure.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (OTzUX)

Yes. Old school pre-PAL. Had a special detonator that would be locked up separately.

So I have heard.

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:51 PM (mbFEM)

442 Just looked - it's a 70 hour drive!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (0IeYL)

Is it even on this frigging planet? Numbers like that are beyond road trips and are leaning heavy toward interstellar. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (VwHCD)

443 Looks as if Twatter's Chris Wiggins (@CWSnewser) has made himself private.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (KiBMU)

444 In any case I can strongly recommend against PALs for any self-defense tools carried in public today. Too complicated, too many potential delays when seconds count.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (OTzUX)

445 Waukesha, WI - Most livable city in Wisconsin and a top place to live nationwide.

Not accidental, IMO.

Posted by: Lola at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (VQp1G)

446 419 Strange happemings in Waukesha. Power out i part of the city. Unknown cause. College campus now on lockdown. Telling people within 5 miles of downtown to shelter in place. Starting to think this might be ROP?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM
I'm starting to think this is 3 dooduses taking one for the team (possible soros moneypile for fambly) to do a reverse mirror dimension rittenhouse case? At this point I'm willing to entertain a black op as well. Damnit I'm already at my 2-drink limit.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (0OP+5)

447 Oh his profile says he's a CBS 6 alum. So he doesn't actually have a real job anymore. No boss to tell him to delete it now.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (vMCab)

448 Goddamned Drudge has the lede McConnaghy up over Abbott in TX. Just in case you were wondering
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

Alright, alright, alright. Fire that torpedo or we die.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (KAi1n)

449 Via Local CBS; 10m ago:

Unnamed "Person of interest" identified but not in custody.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (+WWsf)

450 lol, mentioning Davey Crocketts when I just read the Jack Reacher book they made an appearance in. jinx!

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (ZZK0E)

451 Did CNN and MSNBC blame Trump yet for Wisconsin tonight? Waiting for them to say Trump was driving the truck!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (XqD2r)

452 It will when Jesus returns. not before.

In fact, it will get much worse.
Posted by: SMH

We are in "sell your cloak and buy a sword" territory.

Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (r1z5A)

453 Heartbreaking. Evil strolls I casually on this earth, and is celebrated.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (ptqGC)

454 My first thought goes to: revenge for Kyle verdict??

--

That's my initial thought too. I just came here to see if there was any information on this horrifying, unbelievable act.

There is pure evil in this country. And it's been literally cultivated by the "media" and every POS bigmouth spouting their ignorant opinions.

My G*d, what has happened to America? I can hardly weep any more.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (sVtYq)

455 I looked at Andy Ngo's twitter feed this morning.
He had a screen shot up from the Portland antifa that was telling the, comrades' to stop attacking cars just trying to get around their mostly peaceful protests.
Another telling the, medics, to stop wearing so many patches as that was triggering their, 'comrades".

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (BSV0x)

456 Y'all who keep taking the Lord's name in vain, yet complain bitterly about all the evil in the world, why should He intercede?

After all, y'all keep damning Him.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (tUVd3)

457 Laters, y'all.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (tUVd3)

458 This stupid phone. No matter how I correct.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 08:54 PM (ptqGC)

459 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (VwHCD)
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No shit!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:54 PM (0IeYL)

460 granddaughter of one of her cousins was in the parade and injured in the melee. Hurt shoulder and possible concussion.
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Hope she's ok. My Godchild was there with her son who saw a body fly by and in-laws had a little girl marching but didn't get hit. The dad grabbed her and had to step over hurt kids to get her out.

Posted by: dartist at November 21, 2021 08:54 PM (+ya+t)

461 Relatively speaking of course. He was likely Hitler's closest confidant .

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:51 PM (FKi9J)

Notice he didn't visit the bunker near the end....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:54 PM (7bRMQ)

462 422 ... Thanks, Tim. Don't expect any details tonight unless she gets worse, so I hope we don't hear anything right away. But the family texting network is active so they will keep us informed.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 08:55 PM (7EjX1)

463 lol, mentioning Davey Crocketts when I just read the Jack Reacher book they made an appearance in. jinx!
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Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 08:55 PM (UHVv4)

464 Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 08:43 PM (7EjX1)

Sorry to hear, JTB. Everyone there is in our prayers right now.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:55 PM (Gcsm/)

465 436 Unlikely. He already went viral, and his most recent tweet says: "The right wingers are pretty triggered right now." He seems like the proud ideological activist type, and again, I'm guessing there's a good reason why he's a former reporter, and currently freelancing.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 08:49 PM (+WWsf)

That's been archived as well:

https://archive.ph/xARy2

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 21, 2021 08:56 PM (DTX3h)

466 Sorry I'm so late, was on the phone with my mom, then heard the Waukesha news. But I have to thank y'all for the congratulations and well wishes. Never thought I'd find the love of a good Moron, and it all started on this here Gub Thread.

Maybe will share a range report later but for now just saying prayers for everybody hurting, and sending much love and gratitude to the Horde. Hugs, y'all.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 21, 2021 08:56 PM (kTRt4)

467 Notice he didn't visit the bunker near the end....
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He was with Steiner.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 08:56 PM (UHVv4)

468 Thanks, Tim. Don't expect any details tonight unless she gets worse, so I hope we don't hear anything right away. But the family texting network is active so they will keep us informed.
Posted by: JTB

Yes, please keep us informed...prayers up.

Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 08:57 PM (r1z5A)

469 Thanks for the kind mention!

--Andrew

Attorney Andrew F. Branca
Law of Self Defense LLC
lawofselfdefense.com

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at November 21, 2021 08:57 PM (HMC8i)

470 Notice he didn't visit the bunker near the end....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:54 PM (7bRMQ)

Probably gave Hitler some bullshit story about smuggling out architecture blueprints for the future Reich.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:57 PM (FKi9J)

471 Sorry, SMH. That is not what I mean by that expression. (I was picturing dozens of media figures and the three people in the SUV getting struck down by lightning bolts.)

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 21, 2021 08:58 PM (sGnvY)

472 Best case, burn the house down like the Union did to John Wilkes Booth.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Get out the way bitch, MOVE, MOVE

Channeling Wilson Goode.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 08:58 PM (KAi1n)

473 Probably gave Hitler some bullshit story about smuggling out architecture blueprints for the future Reich.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 08:57 PM (FKi9J)

Had to make it to the last V2 to the moon....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 21, 2021 08:58 PM (7bRMQ)

474 Maybe will share a range report later but for now just saying prayers for everybody hurting, and sending much love and gratitude to the Horde. Hugs, y'all.
Posted by: screaming in digital at November 21, 2021 08:56 PM (kTRt4)

Anything, uh, else you want to mention?

Posted by: blaster at November 21, 2021 08:58 PM (mbFEM)

475 --Andrew

Attorney Andrew F. Branca
Law of Self Defense LLC
lawofselfdefense.com

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holy shit!

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 08:58 PM (ZZK0E)

476 469 Thanks for the kind mention!

--Andrew

Attorney Andrew F. Branca
Law of Self Defense LLC
lawofselfdefense.com
Posted by: Law of Self Defense at November 21, 2021 08:57 PM (HMC8i)

Andrew, your Twitter feed was a must-read during the entire trial. Thanks for your efforts to record it as it was happening.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 21, 2021 08:59 PM (Agr8U)

477 Driver hit 30 young girls, dance troupe, in parade.

===

crap garbage evil driver
Prayers for thise kids

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 21, 2021 08:59 PM (YZG/i)

478 He had a screen shot up from the Portland antifa that was telling the, comrades' to stop attacking cars just trying to get around their mostly peaceful protests.

Actually, she was complaining that the Antifa "security" idiots were on the verge of attacking Antifa cars. She doesn't care so much about Antifa attacks on innocents driving through the area.

She also doesn't like attention from Ngo:

Hello to everyone that got sent here from Andy Ngo! Go eat a pinecone!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2021 08:59 PM (I2/tG)

479 Posted by: Law of Self Defense at November 21, 2021 08:57 PM (HMC8i)
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You bet. I really got a lot out of your discussion and analysis. Appreciate it!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:59 PM (0IeYL)

480 Officials to hold a briefing soon...

Live feed:

https://tinyurl.com/yzkcxuqg

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 08:59 PM (cF8AT)

481 But Weasel it's now a cheese-ass trip, the Al-Can is paved most of the way.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 08:47 PM (OTzUX)

I know someone who pulled a horse trailer from Virginia to Alaska about 10 years ago, and they would say you have a very funny definition of "paved".

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:59 PM (Gcsm/)

482 @469: "469 Thanks for the kind mention! --Andrew"

Giggity.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (+WWsf)

483 469 Thanks for the kind mention!

--Andrew

Attorney Andrew F. Branca
Law of Self Defense LLC
lawofselfdefense.com
Posted by: Law of Self Defense at November 21, 2021 08:57 PM (HMC8i)

Ordered your free book yesterday!

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (cF8AT)

484 Just looked - it's a 70 hour drive!
Posted by: Weasel
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Stop in Wyoming and we'll drive you the rest of the way!

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (kTRt4)

485 Keitel (known contemptuously as "la-Keitel", for "lackey", among officers without the red stripes on the pants) actually left the bunker for a while and made contact with Wenck, to the west of the govt. district - and he returned to the bunker to report. Steiner pretty quickly signaled back when given his ridiculous orders that he had no means to comply. Wenck actually tried to break through, back to the east, but failed, and quickly set about more useful actions, like getting civilians and soldiers to the west to surrender to the Americans/Brits. The movie I think is wrong on this one, thus the "Steiner will come" bit. Doesn't misrepresent the basic situation, but Wenck was the last hope, not Steiner.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (OTzUX)

486 here we go, they walked in room

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (ZZK0E)

487 Bets on this being revenge for Kyle?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (ptqGC)

488 136 ... Rickb,
Congrats on the arrival of the Hawken. Let us know how it went when you get a chance to shoot it.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (7EjX1)

489 Press conference live right now.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:01 PM (+WWsf)

490 Power out to 200,000 in Waukesha. Unknown if related to incident.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 09:01 PM (UHVv4)

491 Briefing beginning...

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:01 PM (cF8AT)

492 Stop in Wyoming and we'll drive you the rest of the way!
Posted by: screaming in digital at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (kTRt4)
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Hmmm.... it's really only 7 10 hour days!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:01 PM (0IeYL)

493 The JTB's:
prayers are up from Hrothgar!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:01 PM (hOUT3)

494 I know someone who pulled a horse trailer from Virginia to Alaska about 10 years ago, and they would say you have a very funny definition of "paved".
Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 08:59 PM (Gcsm/)

Ive also heard the highway that goes to Alaska is some rough stuff...really tears up tires

Posted by: a dude in MI at November 21, 2021 09:01 PM (+I6Y/)

495 Link to briefing?

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at November 21, 2021 09:01 PM (1R0vU)

496 487 Bets on this being revenge for Kyle?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (ptqGC)

It's either that or all about the admiral from Return of the Jedi.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2021 09:02 PM (vMCab)

497 He was with Steiner.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 08:56 PM (UHVv4)
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I actually watched "Downfall", the source of so many "Hitler reacts to..." videos.

Tough film to watch. Not for the faint of heart. I recommend lots of bourbon and caustic commentary to get you through it.

Otherwise...put away dangerous objects, because it's really depressing.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 09:02 PM (llXky)

498 Around the same time as Rittenhouse was being found not guilty a Serial killer in Dallas had a hung jury because of one holdout IIRC. I can think of only one reason for that juror's reasoning.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 09:02 PM (FKi9J)

499 Thanks for the kind mention!

And thank you for the kind book offer and also for your contribution to the Rekieta Law live stream. Everyone there was good but I paid special attention when you were talking.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:02 PM (nfrXX)

500 Officials to hold a briefing soon...

Live feed:

https://tinyurl.com/yzkcxuqg
Posted by: Tami

"We don't have a damn clue as to motivation or the ethnic/religious make up of the suspects." There. Saved you some time.

Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 09:02 PM (r1z5A)

501 some good midwestern christian words there

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:02 PM (ZZK0E)

502 If this is the left's revenge for Kyle....

I'll just stop right here.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:02 PM (ptqGC)

503 Okay gang.
I'm out to try and find some kind of, "News".
Prayers for those attacked by these evil assholes in WI.

SMH prayers for your situation as well. Been there, done that and it sucks.
Never try to second guess G-d. His justice and mercy will be the final answer.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (BSV0x)

504 It's either that or all about the admiral from Return of the Jedi.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2021 09:02 PM (vMCab)
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It's a trap!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (llXky)

505 The media is responsible for this. Keep up the division tactics between races. Evil evil assholes!!

Posted by: four seasons at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (PisyI)

506 As a foreigner I see it's pronounced walk-a-shaw.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (UHVv4)

507 Thanks for the kind mention!

--Andrew

Attorney Andrew F. Branca
Law of Self Defense LLC
lawofselfdefense.com
Posted by: Law of Self Defense

I saw your response, surprisingly, made it onto the thread re Professor Ronald Sullivan's article. Really enjoyed your commentary on Rekeita's channel. Thank you for all the valuable information.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (T823z)

508 GWB I know people who did the Al-Can several times back in the 70s, it's not a shadow of what it was now, in terms of primitive road condition. Their vehicles looked like they'd been attacked with softball bats, despite the bit metal screens they had mounted up front.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (OTzUX)

509 Why wypple be killing everybody wif yo guns?

Posted by: Waukeesha Kenosha at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (QzkSJ)

510 Bets on this being revenge for Kyle?

Considering that jihadists don't usually wear dreadlocks, it seems likely.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2021 09:04 PM (I2/tG)

511 495 Link to briefing?
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at November 21, 2021 09:01 PM (1R0vU)

https://tinyurl.com/yzkcxuqg

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:04 PM (cF8AT)

512 487 Bets on this being revenge for Kyle?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:00 PM (ptqGC)
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50-50

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 21, 2021 09:04 PM (EZebt)

513 Who here wants to bet they keep the perps' IDs on the down low?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:05 PM (ptqGC)

514 "Scene is now safe & secure"

Didn't say whether they got the guy(s) trying to get into a couple of home.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:05 PM (cF8AT)

515 442 Just looked - it's a 70 hour drive!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 08:46 PM (0IeYL)

Is it even on this frigging planet? Numbers like that are beyond road trips and are leaning heavy toward interstellar. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 08:52 PM (VwHCD)

I've done that drive three round trips. It's just not that big of a deal, in the summer. And whoever took nine days was stopping to drink a lot, because it's only about five days or six if you are less speed inclined. I would suggest taking the ferry if you prefer less driving and more sightseeing. Ferry from north of Seattle to Haines, and then driving the rest. Plus, you can bring long guns through Canada.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:05 PM (r9FP4)

516 As a foreigner I see it's pronounced walk-a-shaw.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (UHVv4)

Or is that Krakow?

Posted by: Wausau Insurance Guy at November 21, 2021 09:06 PM (7bRMQ)

517 "Some fatalities"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:06 PM (ptqGC)

518 SMH, prayers up for you guys as well.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:06 PM (hOUT3)

519 Who here wants to bet they keep the perps' IDs on the down low?
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Many many Hungarian Forints.

Posted by: maybe Miklos at November 21, 2021 09:06 PM (QzkSJ)

520 11 Adults
12 Pediatric

Transported to hospitals.

Some fatalities...no info on fatalities.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:06 PM (cF8AT)

521 Nothing to see here! All is well!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:07 PM (ptqGC)

522 No mention of power outage at press conference.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 21, 2021 09:07 PM (EZebt)

523 Has anyone seen Tater or Murderin' Joe in the are?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:07 PM (ptqGC)

524 I like Andrew Branch but I am already sick of being spammed 4 times a day by him simply from ordering his book. Fucking irritating.

Two questions I would ask him if I had the chance:

1. "Why, when you knew that there was zero, nd I mean ZERO evidence against KR, would you ever allow a jury to decide his fate, knowing how insane juries are in practice?"

2. "Why was there no discussion of the concept that once an otherwise unarmed aggressor grabs your weapon, that person is also considered "armed" for purposes of self-defense law?"

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 09:08 PM (M8yB3)

525 I've done that drive three round trips. It's just not that big of a deal, in the summer. And whoever took nine days was stopping to drink a lot, because it's only about five days or six if you are less speed inclined. I would suggest taking the ferry if you prefer less driving and more sightseeing. Ferry from north of Seattle to Haines, and then driving the rest. Plus, you can bring long guns through Canada.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:05 PM (r9FP4)
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I could probably sleep for a lot of it!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:08 PM (0IeYL)

526 I guess we'll never know what happened.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:08 PM (ptqGC)

527 They're done...press still shouting questions.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:08 PM (cF8AT)

528 513 Who here wants to bet they keep the perps' IDs on the down low?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:05 PM
But that would be cheating some folks out of he chance of being 'famous' and having their own fanclubs and getting recording contracts and book deals and marriage offers and atletic endormsments.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 09:09 PM (0OP+5)

529 Thanks to everyone for the kind thoughts and prayers. I know the power of Horde prayers.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 09:09 PM (7EjX1)

530 I guess we'll never know what happened.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:08 PM (ptqGC)

Well, Jane, to be fair, mistakes were made, but at this point what difference does it make?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:10 PM (hOUT3)

531 Welp. That's that. Just a few dead and dozens injured.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:10 PM (ptqGC)

532 Thanks for the kind mention!

--Andrew

Attorney Andrew F. Branca
Law of Self Defense LLC

Hat tip, Sir!

Posted by: Infidel at November 21, 2021 09:10 PM (pA4Ca)

533 Thanks, Tami

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at November 21, 2021 09:10 PM (1R0vU)

534
Hello to everyone that got sent here from Andy Ngo! Go eat a pinecone!

Pine cones can be very nutritious.

Posted by: Zombie Euell Gibbons at November 21, 2021 09:10 PM (63Dwl)

535 Two questions I would ask him if I had the chance:

Good questions but why are you asking them of a lawyer who was not part of the defense team?

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:10 PM (nfrXX)

536 If the perps were just standard issue asshats who left a physical and digital trial, then I assume they'll be found eventually; sooner than later. Most people are terribly naive about just how quickly you can be pinpointed and found these days.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:11 PM (+WWsf)

537 >>>Prediction on how quickly he deletes that?
Posted by: buzzion

it's still up. I hope that prick DIAF.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 09:11 PM (bkUtD)

538 Person of interest in custody.

Lol.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2021 09:11 PM (ptqGC)

539 @WaukeshaAlerts

Waukesha Memorial Hospital reportedly needs blood donors.

@sarahanders0nn 15m
Replying to @WaukeshaAlerts
I just called. They are asking us to go to our regular donation sites (Versiti, Red Cross etc) because that is where they are getting the blood from

@accidntlmystic
Your blood won't go to the accident victims tomorrow; but the supply that's getting used up tonight will be replenished from those agencies, and available for other hospital patients.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (cF8AT)

540 535 Two questions I would ask him if I had the chance:

Good questions but why are you asking them of a lawyer who was not part of the defense team?
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:10 PM (nfrXX)
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I was wondering the same thing.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (0IeYL)

541 @CWNewser
It's okay. The driver in Waukesha was afraid for his life and defending himself from the unarmed holiday crowd. That's Wisconsin law now.

Good to see that when Normals are horrified with what has happened, the Left is dutifully taking glee in the death and misery of others, quickly mocking victims and cheering on the thugs.

The Great Divorce cannot happen fast enough.

Posted by: Reuben Hick (Bannon Didn't Kill Himself) at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (+LCoQ)

542 Good evening, Horde! What a great thread, Weasel. Loved reading about zeroing rifles with Hrothgar and Blaster, and seeing the targets of other morons. I've got to get back to the range...

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (TdMsT)

543 Yeah, Wenck. He was one of the youngest generals - died in 1982. I read Keitel's pisthumously-published memoir. You feel sorry for the guy. He didn't want the job but was actually good at organizational stuff. Mostly, he just wanted to be a farmer, like Schultz wanted to get back to his toy store.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (KAi1n)

544 Guns! Late but....Guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (eeRB6)

545 Join me here for bacon and eggs and maybe some grits in the morning. We'll drink coffee and look at Sefton's morning report.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2021 09:13 PM (0OP+5)

546 Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (TdMsT)
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Thank you, Ladyl! Nice to see you!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:13 PM (0IeYL)

547 Wenck was the last hope, not Steiner.

-
A nod is as good as a Wenck to a dead Fuehrer.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 09:13 PM (FVME7)

548 Waukesha Memorial Hospital reportedly needs blood donors.

@sarahanders0nn 15m
Replying to @WaukeshaAlerts
I just called. They are asking us to go to our regular donation sites (Versiti, Red Cross etc) because that is where they are getting the blood from

@accidntlmystic
Your blood won't go to the accident victims tomorrow; but the supply that's getting used up tonight will be replenished from those agencies, and available for other hospital patients.
Posted by: Tami

Does one have to show proof of vax? (I am NOT freaking joking)

Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 09:13 PM (r1z5A)

549 Imagine how ghoulish you have to be to celebrate children being run over.

Posted by: I mean at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (MnDy2)

550 Wenck was known as the "boy general". He had high-ranking posts in the early Bundeswehr. Not really any stain on his war record, and at the end he was doing "the right thing".

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (OTzUX)

551 The media is responsible for this. Keep up the division tactics between races. Evil evil assholes!!

Posted by: four seasons at November 21, 2021 09:03 PM (PisyI)

It is why the guy who lit up the cops in a no-knock raid was memory holed. Cops returned fire, killed girl friend, and charged him with felony murder. Innocent on all counts except felon in possession.

If Kyle was shooting at cops I don't think he'd been found innocent.

Posted by: Kyle Shot First at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (9m0Zd)

552 537 >>>Prediction on how quickly he deletes that?
Posted by: buzzion

it's still up. I hope that prick DIAF.

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you know the asshole liberal type, he's like "ooohhhh, you rightwing nutjob types are soooo intimidated by my amazing acumen and quick wit...I see how it is"

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (ZZK0E)

553 The Great Divorce cannot happen fast enough.

Posted by: Reuben Hick (Bannon Didn't Kill Himself) at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (+LCoQ)
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There won't be a divorce. This isn't "Kramer vs Kramer", it's "Fatal Attraction."

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (llXky)

554 542 Good evening, Horde! What a great thread, Weasel. Loved reading about zeroing rifles with Hrothgar and Blaster, and seeing the targets of other morons. I've got to get back to the range...
Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (TdMsT)

Hi {{{Ladyl}}}! We are overdue for a range date.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (Agr8U)

555 CWnewser needs to meet a speeding vehicle up close and personal.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 21, 2021 09:15 PM (2NHgQ)

556 524 I like Andrew Branch but I am already sick of being spammed 4 times a day by him simply from ordering his book. Fucking irritating.

Sharkman, have you tried the unsubscribe at the bottom of his emails? There's been more inbound form him for the last month, but I figure it's a case of make hay while the sun shines...

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at November 21, 2021 09:15 PM (IIOyJ)

557 546 Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2021 09:12 PM (TdMsT)
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Thank you, Ladyl! Nice to see you!
Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:13 PM (0IeYL)

Good to see you too, sweetie pie!

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2021 09:15 PM (TdMsT)

558 Democrats are very good at finding personal silver linings in pools of fresh blood.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:16 PM (24If6)

559 This isn't "Kramer vs Kramer", it's "Fatal Attraction."
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (llXky)

You're showing your age.

(But, I think I agree.)

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 09:16 PM (Gcsm/)

560
Good to see you too, sweetie pie!
Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2021 09:15 PM (TdMsT)
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*aw, shucks*

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:16 PM (0IeYL)

561 >>>you know the asshole liberal type, he's like "ooohhhh, you rightwing nutjob types are soooo intimidated by my amazing acumen and quick wit...I see how it is"
Posted by: Tim Riggins

Never heard of the guy, but I welcome him to stop by North Philly so I can show him around and introduce him to some of our career criminals.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 21, 2021 09:16 PM (bkUtD)

562 It is aggravating that in some cases the perps names and pics are put up immediately and in other cases we have to wait days. I realize a lot of those decisions are based on the jurisdiction handling but some is 'political' consideration.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 09:16 PM (FKi9J)

563 St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. Rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, through the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all evil spirits who prowl throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Repeat as necessary. If you want it in Latin, let me know.

And may the souls of the faithful departed rest in peace, Amen.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:17 PM (r9FP4)

564 Niece heard from friends that the asshole drove through the Waukesha South band.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 21, 2021 09:17 PM (2NHgQ)

565 Went to IDPA in Renton yesterday with Lazy Messenger. Courses were s-l-o-w. I had to bail at 1:30 pm and I only got through 3 or 4 stages, despite it being THREE HOURS to get through those few.

Still, stages were interesting, had moving targets for the first time, had shooting UNDER cover from a kneel (I was stiff and sucked and ended up shooting 1 handed under the barrier....but hit all my targets at least.

The XD45 performed very very well, it's just be trying to hit further targets under stress....could be better. I'll try long range 45 shooting next weekend.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 21, 2021 09:17 PM (eeRB6)

566 Wenck was known as the "boy general". He had high-ranking posts in the early Bundeswehr. Not really any stain on his war record, and at the end he was doing "the right thing".

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (OTzUX)

Mark Felton has two vids on former WWII German generals. One of them on Wehrmacht to Bundeswehr and one on Wehrmacht to Volksarmee.

Posted by: Wausau Insurance Guy at November 21, 2021 09:18 PM (7bRMQ)

567 @556: "... but I figure it's a case of make hay while the sun shines..."

Also, most email marketing details are handled by the marketing subcontractor, and there's very little middle ground on this stuff. Like one, maybe two emails a month, or make it rain junk email until the heavens come.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:18 PM (+WWsf)

568 Does one have to show proof of vax? (I am NOT freaking joking)

Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 09:13 PM

Serious question... do the COVID-19 "vaccines" alter one's blood at all? I know there are certain conditions people have that prevent them from being able to donate their blood. Wondering if there is anything in any of the various "vaccines" which would cause one's blood to be rejected for donation.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 09:19 PM (Do5/p)

569 St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. Rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, through the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all evil spirits who prowl throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:17 PM (r9FP4)

Amen.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 09:19 PM (llXky)

570 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 21, 2021 09:17 PM (eeRB6)
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Sounds like great training. Would you consider writing it up for a future thread? If so, drop me a note.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:19 PM (0IeYL)

571 Quick range report. Had the range to ourselves Friday night for some celebratory gunfire. I shot the .22 S&W revolver again, sorry I can't remember exactly what it is. I can shoot this one fairly well at 20 feet and I'm getting less clumsy handling revolvers. Also tried a .22 S&W semiauto. Not as good with this one. Still on the lookout for a 1911. Saw some very nice ones from Springfield Armory, but they're a little more than I want to spend.

And we won a copy of Andrew Branca's book at the MoMe. It's going to the top of my To Read list...

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 21, 2021 09:20 PM (kTRt4)

572 Goodnight weasel early. Dont forget, easiest way to get on paper for sighting with a lot of firearms is to remove the bolt and peer through the barrel to match sight picture.
Then you can fine tune it by firing. Watch out on ar types for properly matched front and rear sights if using irons.

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2021 09:20 PM (JP+TZ)

573 The Hill is reporting that Kyle Rittenhouse told Tucker that he 100% supports BLM and all of their goals. Can we retroactively declare him guilty?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:20 PM (NqGS/)

574 Niece heard from friends that the asshole drove through the Waukesha South band.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 21, 2021 09:17 PM

Yep. That video is here: https://bit.ly/3cBRPG0

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 09:20 PM (Do5/p)

575 you know the asshole liberal type, he's like "ooohhhh, you rightwing nutjob types are soooo intimidated by my amazing acumen and quick wit...I see how it is"
Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:14 PM (ZZK0E)

Intimidated? No. Disgusted to the point of vomiting? Certainly.

Of course, regardless of what happens to that little penis head, God keeps score. Imagine his surprise two seconds after passing off this mortal coil. And then pray for his depraved soul, because Jesus told us to, and for only that reason.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:21 PM (r9FP4)

576 @CWNewser
It's okay. The driver in Waukesha was afraid for his life and defending himself from the unarmed holiday crowd. That's Wisconsin law now.

I just read that for the fourth or fifth time in this thread and just noticed something: "holiday crowd." Just what holiday were the pedo and the woman-beater and their fellow arsonists celebrating in the middle of August?

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:21 PM (nfrXX)

577 The Hill, like Vice, needs click-bait

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:22 PM (24If6)

578 The Hill is reporting that Kyle Rittenhouse told Tucker that he 100% supports BLM and all of their goals. Can we retroactively declare him guilty?
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:20 PM (NqGS/)

No still innocent as the day is long but if true, he is guilty of dumbassery in the first degree.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 09:22 PM (FKi9J)

579 Went to local gun show. Well stocked. Not looking for anything in particular, just browsing. Prices somewhat higher than on-line prices. That is when you can get "it" on line.

Actually did get one thing I was looking for - membership in local gun club and outdoor range. Indoor ranges tend to be a little restrictive in what you can shoot and do. For example - no reloads.

Posted by: Kyle Shot First at November 21, 2021 09:22 PM (9m0Zd)

580 Anything, uh, else you want to mention?
Posted by: blaster
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Hi blaster! I think the news you're looking for is in Jesse's post at 150 ....

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 21, 2021 09:22 PM (kTRt4)

581 Alaric Searle wrote a great book about west german rearmament and former wehrmacht generals during 1945-1955.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2021 09:22 PM (KAi1n)

582 No still innocent as the day is long but if true, he is guilty of dumbassery in the first degree.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 09:22 PM (FKi9J)

Even idiots get to have their second amendment rights.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:23 PM (r9FP4)

583 The Hill is reporting that Kyle Rittenhouse told Tucker that he 100% supports BLM and all of their goals. Can we retroactively declare him guilty?

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lol, Huber's artgirlfriend already cucked him

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:23 PM (ZZK0E)

584 OK, 9:20ish thank you time.

Thank You!

I sure do appreciate all of you choosing to spend your time here, and particularly those who participate by adding to the conversation.

Please say a special prayer for those in Waukesha tonight. We live in troubled times.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:23 PM (0IeYL)

585 Weasel,
Thanks for another gun thread. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

Signing off a bit early so I can give more thought about what I want to happen to the murderers in Waukesha.

Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 09:23 PM (7EjX1)

586 SFGoth, wow, I just turned that book back into the library because I'm just not in the mood for that sort of heavy slog right now. Only just started it.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 09:23 PM (OTzUX)

587 SMH will back me up on this, but we also need to pray for the perps. WHAT we pray for them is up to debate.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:24 PM (r9FP4)

588 JTB, prayers up

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 21, 2021 09:24 PM (YZG/i)

589 lol, Huber's artgirlfriend already cucked him

So you saying he got Kapernicked by his Penis Missile?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:24 PM (24If6)

590 Kyle believing that the family, going to work on time, and capitalism is evil and cops randomly kill blacks while defending complicity fash stores who sell cars that rape the environment is a turn I did not expect.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:25 PM (ZZK0E)

591 Thanks again, Weasel! I've been pretty scarce on this thread, but life happens.

I'm hoping to send you some range reports. I actually scrounged up some .32 H&R Magnum and and can't wait so see how this stuff actually performs!

Water jugs are quivering with fear.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 09:25 PM (llXky)

592 Does one have to show proof of vax? (I am NOT freaking joking)

Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 09:13 PM (r1z5A)

Someone asked that exact question in the replies.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (cF8AT)

593 Niece heard from friends that the asshole drove through the Waukesha South band.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 21, 2021 09:17 PM (2NHgQ)

Oh, well, it's obviously just a school rivalry, then. Nothing to see here. Move along.

(If I don't snark I'll weep.)

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (Gcsm/)

594 Posted by: JTB at November 21, 2021 09:23 PM (7EjX1)
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Thanks JTB. Same to you and the missus.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (0IeYL)

595 The Hill reported that?

Oh ok.

I'll wait for the interview myself.

Posted by: I mean at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (7Ub52)

596 The Hill is reporting that Kyle Rittenhouse told Tucker that he 100% supports BLM and all of their goals. Can we retroactively declare him guilty?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:20 PM

"This case has nothing to do with race," said Rittenhouse. "It never had anything to do with race. It had to do with the right to self-defense."

"Right," replied Carlson.

"I'm not a racist person," Rittenhouse said. "I support the BLM movement. I support peacefully demonstrating."

https://bit.ly/3DB0bJI

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (Do5/p)

597 Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:24 PM (r9FP4)

tcn, I like the way you think!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (hOUT3)

598 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 21, 2021 09:25 PM (llXky)
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My pleasure, AHL!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:27 PM (0IeYL)

599 @ArthurSchwartz

"Carlson called Mr. Hayes's and Mr. Goldberg's resignations 'great news' in a telephone interview on Sunday. 'Our viewers will be grateful.'"

Two Fox News Contributors Quit in Protest of Tucker Carlson's Jan. 6 Special

*snort*

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:28 PM (cF8AT)

600 (If I don't snark I'll weep.)
Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (Gcsm/)

Weeping is appropriate, but keep yer powder dry.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:28 PM (r9FP4)

601 Just got home.. What happened in WI ? 3 perps or one? Any news?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2021 09:28 PM (87qwM)

602 So what happened in Waukesha?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:28 PM (24If6)

603 "I'm not a racist person," Rittenhouse said. "I support the BLM movement. I support peacefully demonstrating."

https://bit.ly/3DB0bJI
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (Do5/p)

so he's a dick?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:28 PM (K3ZCc)

604 A Rant: Kyle needed to have a gun expert testify for the defense. First of all an AR-15 is not even legal for hunting deer in most states, because the 5.56 cartridge is considered under powered for that purpose. Military doctrine changed during Vietnam.

It used to be that the 30-06 cartridge of both World Wars was intended to kill enemy soldiers. The modern M4 firing M193 ammo is designed primarily to wound the enemy, since the military figured out that a wounded soldier ties up far more enemy resources than a dead one does. Battle field medics, hospitals and medical supplies vs a hole in the ground for a dead soldier.

The one in seven twist on the M4 over stabilizes the 55 grain bullet of M193 minimizing its ability to tumble, while the shorter barrel, compared to the Vietnam era M16, reduces the power of the round.

ARs based on modern M4s are hardly the killing machines the MSM makes them out to be. One simply has to show a jury an M193 round compared to a 30-06, to drive that point home.

The Vietnam era M16 with its 20 inch barrel and looser, tumble promoting, rifling is a far deadlier weapon than the modern M4.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 21, 2021 09:29 PM (uimEa)

605 So what happened in Waukesha?

I know I'm just trying to get caught up. Awful. The video is hard to watch. Deliberate no doubt about it.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 21, 2021 09:30 PM (nxdel)

606 TY for cigar link...brothers XMas gift ordered.

Posted by: redchief at November 21, 2021 09:30 PM (Kab4E)

607 573 The Hill is reporting that Kyle Rittenhouse told Tucker that he 100% supports BLM and all of their goals. Can we retroactively declare him guilty?
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:20 PM (NqGS/)

No. And fuck that weak ass backbiting shit. Black Rifle Coffee Company sale page is elsewhere.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 21, 2021 09:30 PM (eeRB6)

608 595 The Hill reported that?

Oh ok.

I'll wait for the interview myself.
Posted by: I mean at November 21, 2021 09:26 PM (7Ub52)

https://tinyurl.com/yf6hz5r2

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (cF8AT)

609 What happened in WI ? 3 perps or one? Any news?

Initially I heard 3, they supposedly have one person in custody.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (nxdel)

610 Thanks again for hosting, Weasel. Working on a couple of things to send your way for the next thread. Good night, all!

Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (NacE+)

611 SMH, if you're still out there:

I'm sorry you get so much hate from your loved ones. It really does make me feel bad, plus I can relate. I can't really talk about politics at home anymore if my sister is around. She gets triggered and starts screaming.

Prayers up.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (L2ZTs)

612 48 hr rule folks or the interview runs

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (24If6)

613 Posted by: redchief at November 21, 2021 09:30 PM (Kab4E)
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Howdy! Hope he likes them!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (0IeYL)

614 Good questions but why are you asking them of a lawyer who was not part of the defense team?

Posted by: Oddbob

I asked the questions here on the blog go get the regular commenters' thoughts on them, not having known before I typed them that Andrew was lurking. And I see by how I worded them it appears that I'm trying to pin his ears back, but that's not the case.

I'm interested in his thoughts on those questions knowing of course that he wasn't on the defense team.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (M8yB3)

615
Initially I heard 3, they supposedly have one person in custody.
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (nxdel)

It is so terrible

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (87qwM)

616 Horseshit statement from the White House. FUCK YOU, you son of a bitch! You fanned the flames of this, you are PERSONALLY responsible. God is not mocked, you piece of shit. Yours is coming.

/rant off, and my apologies for the specific language.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:32 PM (r9FP4)

617 >>The Hill is reporting that Kyle Rittenhouse told Tucker that he 100% supports BLM and all of their goals. Can we retroactively declare him guilty?

It could be he's trying to get a very large target off his back. Or it could be he's just a kid.

I don't care about his politics. I care that he did the right thing in a very difficult situation.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (ZLI7S)

618 Deliberate no doubt about it.
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 21, 2021 09:30 PM (nxdel)

Yeah, definitely. But I have to wonder about that braking right before going through the one group. Was there a war in the brain? Was it just habit in driving?

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (Gcsm/)

619 Can I get a timeline on the Waukesha event?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (24If6)

620 At Patterico, they are horrifically triggered by the news that Tucker has the first exclusive interview with Kyle.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (L2ZTs)

621 Amen Jack

Posted by: four seasons at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (PisyI)

622 Some chatter for a national NBC news guy that the FBI is looking into whether or not it was a police chase gone wrong, but some pushback that there's nothing on earlier local scanner traffic to indicate there was an active chase.

24 hour rule applies, I guess. Probably best to wait and see what we "know" on Tuesday morning before making any sweeping judgments.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (+WWsf)

623 Posted by: Ed L at November 21, 2021 09:31 PM (NacE+)
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My pleasure, Ed L. Thanks for being here!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (0IeYL)

624 In 1963, a church bombing killed four little black girls in Birmingham, Alabama revealing the evil of the Klan and other radical racist organizations. I wonder if this won't be a turning point of public perception of BLM and Antifa.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (FVME7)

625 How cool are WhoTeeWho's videos! Dude has picked up over a quarter million subs this year and deserves every one of them.Not many entertainers suck you in the way he does on what seems to be a quest to acquire one gun in every caliber.
"My wife says I've bought too many bing-bangs. I need to wait till January...We'll see" LOL!!!!

But with this week's .22 discussion...
For the past few weeks, my heart strings have been tugged by the Rock Island .22TCM because while yes it seems kind of silly, it's my kind of silly.

Whaddya think of it?

Posted by: Nato at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (uqNRd)

626 Posted by: Tami at November 21

He's 18, I wouldn't be surprised if he misspoke.

Professionals do it all the time and have to clarify.

I'll give him a chance to clarify or confirm.

Posted by: I mean at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (9zXwu)

627 "I'm not a racist person," Rittenhouse said. "I support the BLM movement. I support peacefully demonstrating."

OK. I mean, I don't support the BLM movement but as long as the protests remain peaceful, I don't actively oppose it either. So I take that as a fairly innocuous statement from somebody in a no-win position PR-wise.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (nfrXX)

628 Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:32 PM (r9FP4)

Did I say that I like the way you think, because you are spot on!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (hOUT3)

629 "Probably best to wait and see what we "know" on Tuesday morning before making any sweeping judgments."

Nah, I *know* you're not new here. So, good one!

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (OTzUX)

630 Re: 604.

Kind of what Mark Bowden relayed about the mostly peaceful protests by future Minneapolis Citizens and Daycare Aficionados noticed...the guys using, by choice, the older weapons (looked like M4 to me) were doing better than the guys firing the new weapons because the skinnies weren't stopping once hit because their booboos weren't that bad.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (ZZK0E)

631 It could be he's trying to get a very large target off his back. Or it could be he's just a kid.

I don't care about his politics. I care that he did the right thing in a very difficult situation.
Posted by: JackStraw

Yeppers.

Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (r1z5A)

632 Some chatter for a national NBC news guy that the FBI is looking into whether or not it was a police chase gone wrong, but some pushback that there's nothing on earlier local scanner traffic to indicate there was an active chase.

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interesting.

24 hour rule.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:35 PM (ZZK0E)

633 One of Condi Rice's childhood friends was one of the ones murdered in that Birmingham, AL bombing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:35 PM (24If6)

634 Yeah, definitely. But I have to wonder about that braking right before going through the one group. Was there a war in the brain? Was it just habit in driving?
Posted by: G

or a bunch of fucktard stoner wanna be gangbangers that panickd?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:35 PM (K3ZCc)

635 SMH, if you're still out there:

I'm sorry you get so much hate from your loved ones. It really does make me feel bad, plus I can relate. I can't really talk about politics at home anymore if my sister is around. She gets triggered and starts screaming.

Prayers up.
Posted by: qdpsteve

What qdp said, SMH.

Posted by: Infidel at November 21, 2021 09:36 PM (pA4Ca)

636 It could be he's trying to get a very large target off his back. Or it could be he's just a kid.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM

Yep, sounds like it.

In an extended transcript provided to Mediaite by Fox News, Rittenhouse continued, "I believe there needs to be change. I believe there's a lot of prosecutorial misconduct, not just in my case but in other cases. It's just amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of someone."

"He's relieved, and he looks forward to getting on with his life. And having a jury of 12 people find him not guilty meant the world to him, in practical and symbolic ways," Richards, said on the steps of the courthouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

"I don't think he'll continue to live in this area - it's too dangerous," Richards added. "He's had 24-hour security since this happened."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 09:36 PM (Do5/p)

637 Patterico? is that old cheese dick still around?

Posted by: ck at November 21, 2021 09:36 PM (iBg56)

638 and I don't care if Kyle the Conqueror is a blm cuck, he keeps what he kills. He seems like a good kid.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:36 PM (ZZK0E)

639 DH just asked me to be certain he never leaves the house without protection again. It's on like donkey kong.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 21, 2021 09:36 PM (r9FP4)

640 573 The Hill is reporting that Kyle Rittenhouse told Tucker that he 100% supports BLM and all of their goals. Can we retroactively declare him guilty?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:20 PM

Lot of comments saying that KR is stupid. I am not so sure.

I have had Antifa at my house and been tagged. I definitely lost some sleep over it and my youngest daughter was scared off her usual routine to skateboard in the park in the evening.

Eternal vigilance against hundreds or thousands of people is IMPOSSIBLE!

Kyle may be wiser than we think. His statement may take off some of his heat. Further, I don't believe he supported any of their Marxist goals, but just advocated for a fair justice system. (I have not seen his full statement.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 21, 2021 09:36 PM (tkyK5)

641 re: Kyle and BLM: I assume the comment was half winking troll, and half said because he feels like he has to say it. Of course, everyone supports BLM. God bless the first amendment and all that. No good comes from getting into an argument about whether or not last summer's protests were mostly peaceful or not.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:37 PM (+WWsf)

642 617 >>The Hill is reporting that Kyle Rittenhouse told Tucker that he 100% supports BLM and all of their goals. Can we retroactively declare him guilty?

It could be he's trying to get a very large target off his back. Or it could be he's just a kid.

I don't care about his politics. I care that he did the right thing in a very difficult situation.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (ZLI7S)

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Or maybe he's like a shit ton of people and are uninformed as to the difference between the Marxist org and the general sentiment. People on our side need to quit being jackasses.

Posted by: Jackal at November 21, 2021 09:37 PM (wcDsT)

643 I think Kyle's remarks about BLM are a bit of a nothingburger. I understand why he may have made them.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:37 PM (cF8AT)

644 I don't care about his politics. I care that he did the right thing in a very difficult situation.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (ZLI7S)
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Yep.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:37 PM (0IeYL)

645 whatever he believes, he was innocent, however if he is a blm fan he is a fucking idiot and a fucking fag

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:37 PM (K3ZCc)

646 It could be he's trying to get a very large target off his back. Or it could be he's just a kid.

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I was stupid when I was a kid and, I suspect, I'm not the only one.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 21, 2021 09:37 PM (FVME7)

647 "as long as the protests remain peaceful"
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:34 PM (nfrXX)

Seems like a fairly important distinction

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:37 PM (hOUT3)

648 619 Can I get a timeline on the Waukesha event?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:33 PM (24If6)

someone did something sometime

Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2021 09:38 PM (us2H3)

649 and, sorry Kyle, blm was complaining about bad cops (which they believe are all of them) not bad prosecutors.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:38 PM (ZZK0E)

650 @618: 'Was there a war in the brain?"

I said something similar up at #194. Probably best to wait and see about biography and motive at this point, but yeah, some of the video does beg the question.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:38 PM (+WWsf)

651 643 I think Kyle's remarks about BLM are a bit of a nothingburger. I understand why he may have made them.
Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:37 PM (cF8AT)

I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2021 09:38 PM (87qwM)

652 Infidel, thanks!

ck, yup. Unfortunately Pat seems to have been really broken by Trump.

He pretty much refuses to take a side in the Rittenhouse case. I've shared before, I think he's torn about the verdict: he believes in self-defense, but hates Trump supporters like Kyle.

He also has two major contributors, someone named Dana who is a complete David French cuck, and someone named JVW, who seems almost sane and is certainly more empathetic to Trump causes, although he also hates Trump.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 09:38 PM (L2ZTs)

653 here is pure evil in this country. And it's been literally cultivated by the "media" and every POS bigmouth spouting their ignorant opinions.

My G*d, what has happened to America? I can hardly weep any more.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2021 08:53 PM (sVtYq)

Impalement poles are being used as tomato stakes, and the iron cages are rusting out behind the garage. That's what's happened

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 09:39 PM (VwHCD)

654 Kyle may be wiser than we think. His statement may take off some of his heat.

At the very least, he violated the first rule of being targeted by Woke Club: never bend the knee.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:39 PM (NqGS/)

655 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 21, 2021 09:36 PM (tkyK5)
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Howdy, brother!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:40 PM (0IeYL)

656 His statement may take off some of his heat.

no

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:40 PM (K3ZCc)

657 24 hour rule.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:35 PM (ZZK0E)

Easy these days to re-write a lot of history in 24 hours!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:40 PM (hOUT3)

658 At Patterico, they are horrifically triggered by the news that Tucker has the first exclusive interview with Kyle.

Patterico was the person broken the hardest by Trump winning in 2016. He makes AmishDude and PopeHat seem well adjusted.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:41 PM (NqGS/)

659 Heavy.com has the most complete report I can find on what happened and what is current. News reporting. Very straightforward.
Also very sad. There are definitely child fatalities. Most of the injured were children. Very very sad.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 09:41 PM (Y+l9t)

660 I don't care about his politics.

I do. Guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out in the wash.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 21, 2021 09:41 PM (Xrfse)

661 We've completed our investigation of the Waukesha incident, and we can't determine the perpetrator's motivation.

It's like the Las Vegas shooting.

Posted by: The FBI! at November 21, 2021 09:41 PM (I2/tG)

662 Trump didn't break him, he's another Allahpundit always has been.

Posted by: ck at November 21, 2021 09:42 PM (iBg56)

663 >> Rittenhouse continued, "I believe there needs to be change. I believe there's a lot of prosecutorial misconduct, not just in my case but in other cases. It's just amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of someone."

The difference between believing something and KNOWING.
KR knows a lot of people were tossed into the hole unjustly.

Posted by: Kyle Shot First at November 21, 2021 09:42 PM (9m0Zd)

664 Posted by: Home Office Secretary Winston Churchill at November 21, 2021 08:34 PM (llXky)

The Siege of Sidney Street!
Wow, that is expert level Churchill trivia.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2021 09:42 PM (roH4R)

665 @658; "Patterico was the person broken the hardest by Trump winning in 2016. He makes AmishDude and PopeHat seem well adjusted."

Funny, but I'm guessing there's a steady stream of AmishDude replies under Patterico's tweets.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:42 PM (+WWsf)

666 IMHO the following things will, or should at least, happen:

- Kyle and family move out of Wisconsin, to an undisclosed location. Hopefully they can stay anonymous in conservative midwest regions.

- Kyle gets a nice payday, assuming his lawyers don't go insane like Lin Wood did.

- Kyle changes his name, starts living comfortably, and maybe gets involved in some local or small-ball politics, or maybe not.

But that's what I hope happens.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 09:42 PM (L2ZTs)

667 Waukesha was Jihad by SUV?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:43 PM (24If6)

668 9 3 First
Posted by: WarEagle82 at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (+Kpte)
4 1
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2021 07:00 PM (2JoB

At least 2 of these statements are false
Posted by: Doof (known to CROSS STATE LINES) at November 21, 2021 07:03 PM (mZUr4)
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No Standing

Posted by: Braenyard's bottom line law review at November 21, 2021 09:43 PM (qYMk7)

669 Earlier video seemed to show them skirting the edge of the road, trying to avoid people. At the end they swerved from the right side to the left before plowing through the band. But the band was taking up the entire width of the road, there was no way around. I suspect that maybe these urbanites committed a robbery somewhere else and were fleeing, but ended up on the parade route. They were looking for a way out, but found none, panicked, and plowed through.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 09:43 PM (UkBFs)

670 I'm interested in his thoughts on those questions knowing of course that he wasn't on the defense team.

I watched a fair bit of the Rekieta Law live stream over the past couple of weeks. I don't specifically recall seeing Branca comment on your first question but it certainly seemed like the panel agreed with you 100%. I do specifically recall seeing Branca say almost word for word what you did in your second question when the state kept calling Rosenbaum "unarmed."

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:44 PM (nfrXX)

671 Holy hell. I take that back. Patterico's Twitter engagement numbers are, umm, lacking.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:44 PM (+WWsf)

672 All of the whining about KR being interviewed by Carlson is just sour grapes from the MSM fools who called KR a white supremacist and a murderer for 14 months. They'd kill to be the ones interviewing him, but the kid isn't stupid enough to let them.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 09:44 PM (M8yB3)

673 At the very least, he violated the first rule of being targeted by Woke Club: never bend the knee.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:39 PM

I agree, that rule has been proven many times over when you have some business or position that the woke mob can continually degrade. They are definitely like sharks - blood in the water makes them more vicious.

However, I am not sure that rule applies to Kyle. He is already fully canceled by the Leftists. He is now trying to not get killed by a violent, amorphous mob that includes more Rosenbaums - by the hundreds.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 21, 2021 09:45 PM (tkyK5)

674 Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:37

Maybe it's just me, but you seem to be a real jerk lately.

Posted by: Infidel at November 21, 2021 09:45 PM (pA4Ca)

675 Waukesha was Jihad by SUV?

24 hour rule definitely applies. And as AtC always says, double-doubt any reports that confirm your biases.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:45 PM (NqGS/)

676 'Looks as if Twatter's Chris Wiggins (@CWSnewser) has made himself private.'

Gosh, I wonder where he lives. A lot of people would probably like to show him how much they appreciate his remarks.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2021 09:45 PM (roH4R)

677 I'm more than glad Rittenhouse was found not guilty but now I don't care what happens and have no desire to keep up with his status. He's no Sandmann.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 09:45 PM (FKi9J)

678 Kyle and family move out of Wisconsin, to an undisclosed location. Hopefully they can stay anonymous in conservative midwest regions.

Kyle gets a nice payday, assuming his lawyers don't go insane like Lin Wood did.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 09:42 PM (L2ZTs)

East Texas would probably welcome him.

Posted by: redchief at November 21, 2021 09:45 PM (Kab4E)

679 Walter, I believe Patterico isn't nearly the big blogger fish he used to be.

He always has the same dozen or so commenters on every thread.

Thankfull there are also a few people who push back, hard, against the overall anti-Trump/pro-vax/"let's go back to just trusting DCers to always do the right thing" message yet not to get banned. One is named JF.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 21, 2021 09:46 PM (L2ZTs)

680 >>I do. Guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out in the wash.

He's 18. I'd venture to guess that a large part of the group here has changed their political views since they were 18.

The kid has been the biggest target of the left for over a year. They wanted to put him in prison for the rest of his life for the crime of defending himself. He has 24 hour security and can't even go to the store by himself. He just got done with a horrific trial where his life as a free person was in the balance and now he has to worry about being attacked by random idiots who are legion thanks to the left.

I'm not going to pile on a kid who doesn't sound like Barry Goldwater on steroids who wants his life back.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (ZLI7S)

681 672 All of the whining about KR being interviewed by Carlson is just sour grapes from the MSM fools who called KR a white supremacist and a murderer for 14 months. They'd kill to be the ones interviewing him, but the kid isn't stupid enough to let them.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 09:44 PM (M8yB3)

This is a payoff of sorts for KR. If he was found guilty, the money would go to his mom. Since he was found innocent, it will go to him.

Posted by: redchief at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (Kab4E)

682 @IntelDoge 3m

Per NBC News, the preliminary thing police are investigating at the moment is whether or not the driver was fleeing from a crime that took place before the vehicle reached the parade route.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (cF8AT)

683 Howdy, Weasel!

Just dropped in to the Gun Thread late.

I will go back and read your ever-enlightening content, AFTER I get to read the thoughts of all of my fellow Morons in the comments!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (tkyK5)

684 Maybe it's just me, but you seem to be a real jerk lately.
Posted by: I

I think I have always been the same

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:48 PM (K3ZCc)

685 Kyle was interviewed that evening, prior to the uh, Later Unpleasantness, and he seemed to be pro-BLM, iirc. Or maybe he just said he supported their right to protest, but it seems to me like he went a little further than that.

Also, if I were intentionally going to drive into a parade of people matching down the middle of the street, I'd have been driving right down the middle of the street for maximum impact. Perp appears to have been in his lane for the most part. My guess is, he was fleeing the scene of some sort of crime and picked a bad day to speed down that particular road.

At least I hope that's what it was. I guess I can't fathom purposely running people down for no good reason.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 21, 2021 09:48 PM (KrMCC)

686 680 >>I do. Guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out in the wash.

He's 18. I'd venture to guess that a large part of the group here has changed their political views since they were 18.

The kid has been the biggest target of the left for over a year. They wanted to put him in prison for the rest of his life for the crime of defending himself. He has 24 hour security and can't even go to the store by himself. He just got done with a horrific trial where his life as a free person was in the balance and now he has to worry about being attacked by random idiots who are legion thanks to the left.

I'm not going to pile on a kid who doesn't sound like Barry Goldwater on steroids who wants his life back.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (ZLI7S)

If anything, i'm more libertarian/anti-government @ 50 then 18.

But I imagine he'll be anti-gov in some form.

Posted by: redchief at November 21, 2021 09:48 PM (Kab4E)

687 Per NBC News, the preliminary thing police are investigating at the moment is whether or not the driver was fleeing from a crime that took place before the vehicle reached the parade route.
Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (cF8AT)

So not 3 black men like WZ says

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2021 09:48 PM (87qwM)

688 Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (cF8AT)

See #657

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:49 PM (hOUT3)

689 I mean blm hates us and him but he supports blm?

wtf

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:49 PM (K3ZCc)

690 ahhh shit, maybe Kyle really did think it was maga white supremecist nashis burning down Kenosha.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:49 PM (ZZK0E)

691 Thank you Weasel and Horde. Good night and hugs to all.

Rereading Psalm 55... a go-to for me over the last year or so...

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 21, 2021 09:49 PM (kTRt4)

692 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 09:43 PM (UkBFs)

That's what I was thinking, but someone else said there was no radio scanner chatter before that would indicate a chase or whatnot. But that's certainly what the braking and swerving might be evidence for.

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 09:49 PM (Gcsm/)

693 I mean blm hates us and him but he supports blm?

--

well, kyle's not eggszaxtly white

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (ZZK0E)

694 Oddbob: thanks for the info. My first question isn't: "Why did you have KR testify at trial [obviously in front of the empanneled jury]?, but rather "In a case where there was no evidence of guilt at all, why ask for a jury trial at all?"

I didn't watch the trial or the livestreamed coverage other than some snippets of Steven Crowder, so I am wondering if the Rekeita (sp?) analysts talked about KR testifying, or if they talked about getting the Hell away from a jury completely.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (M8yB3)

695 Heavy.com quotes someone saying three perps, black, dreads.

Posted by: SamIam at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (oasF3)

696 Per NBC News, the preliminary thing police are investigating at the moment is whether or not the driver was fleeing from a crime that took place before the vehicle reached the parade route.
Posted by: T

so, in additin to hitting and running dozens there is resisting arrest too?

do not think nbc is helping as much as they think they are

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (K3ZCc)

697 Posted by: screaming in digital at November 21, 2021 09:49 PM (kTRt4)
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Goodnight and congratulations!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (0IeYL)

698 Per NBC News, the preliminary thing police are investigating at the moment is whether or not the driver was fleeing from a crime that took place before the vehicle reached the parade route.

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (cF8AT)

Then followed up by a good dowsing of the suspect in gasoline and given the buddhist monk treatment, right?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (VwHCD)

699 695 Heavy.com quotes someone saying three perps, black, dreads.
Posted by: SamIam at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (oasF3)

And another says 1 white guy...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (87qwM)

700
Did anyone here just watch the Viva/Barnes stream?

Robert Barnes explained how Kyle is being taken advantage of by Grifters who are controlling the big fund that was raised.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (QU9hs)

701 I guess I can't fathom purposely running people down for no good reason.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 21, 2021 09:48 PM (KrMCC)

Probably because you are a sane responsible person!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (hOUT3)

702 That's even worse. thugs in a panic. Boyo what losers.

If true, these rancid meat sacks need to be composted post haste.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (24If6)

703 he is not white but blm is not giving him cover either.

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (K3ZCc)

704 Thanks as always for the thread, Weasel. Glad I was here, even despite the Waukesha threadjack -- or maybe this is exactly the company I would have chosen on a night such as this.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (Agr8U)

705 All of the whining about KR being interviewed by Carlson is just sour grapes from the MSM fools who called KR a white supremacist and a murderer for 14 months. They'd kill to be the ones interviewing him, but the kid isn't stupid enough to let them.

Their ratings all suck. Having him on is a ratings bonanza for whoever it is. That's why Tater was the first major media figure to whine that Fox had the exclusive.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (NqGS/)

706 fleeing from a crime and speeding through a crowd because this is just like GTA 5

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (ZZK0E)

707 You don't want to go back to jail after knocking over a circle k, so you murder a bunch of people and maim 12 kids. That calls for a slow and painful death.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (UkBFs)

708 Did anyone here just watch the Viva/Barnes stream?

Not sure about Barnes.. Sour grapes ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (87qwM)

709 I guess I can't fathom purposely running people down for no good reason.
Posted by: T

do you have some good reasns to share?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (K3ZCc)

710 At the very least, he violated the first rule of being targeted by Woke Club: never bend the knee.

He also violated the first rule of media: never miss a chance to keep your big mouth shut.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (nfrXX)

711 Robert Barnes explained how Kyle is being taken advantage of by Grifters who are controlling the big fund that was raised.

I believe it. I got 15 emails yesterday from "Wendy Rittenhouse" asking to donate to Kyle for I don't even know what.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (NqGS/)

712 @692: "But that's certainly what the braking and swerving might be evidence for."

Braking and swerving wouldn't be completely unusual if a road rage fantasy came up against the reality of killing children. It takes a truly special kinda criminal to cross that line without hesitation.

If it's just a local crime though, then I have a hard time figuring out why they were fleeing through the exact middle of downtown, and why they wouldn't jump out and ditch the car rather than run people over.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (+WWsf)

713 Be wary of the early ID... after all the Beltway Sniper was a guy in a white van.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (24If6)

714 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 21, 2021 09:51 PM (Agr8U)
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Happy to do it. Thanks for being here.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (0IeYL)

715 I wonder why the asshole backed the suv into the driveway. Seems like he would park and run.

Posted by: four seasons at November 21, 2021 09:53 PM (PisyI)

716 Every report I read said 3 black guys and eyewitnesses said driver deliberately targeted people. There are children dead. I don;t care why they ended up there, whether on purpose or by accident, they could have stopped. They were never going to get away. Better robbery than murder.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 09:53 PM (Y+l9t)

717 Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 09:47 PM (ZLI7S)

Who's piling on? He says he supports BLM which now makes his offer to help the protesters make sense. I can be very happy he was found not guilty but still he highly disappointed that he supports BLM.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (FKi9J)

718 Gracias Weasel fur noch ein ander gub thread. And what would be your tasting notes for the 1875, if you've already burned it?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (OTzUX)

719 Ok, I had to save that "Taketh thou reward, O King" meme over in the side bar. It's hilarious. Probably fake but hilarious. It's Heinlein's "Crazy Years" now, it could be real. Who knows.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (sAmhv)

720 OK, ONT is up everybody. Please enjoy the rest of your evening and have a nice week. I hope to see you all back here next Sunday.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (0IeYL)

721 I'm not going to pile on a kid who doesn't sound like Barry Goldwater on steroids who wants his life back.

Okay. We could use Barry on steroids right about now. Guess that's not Kyle's responsibility, nor should it be, Anyway, I was supposed to be "out". Broken promises...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (Xrfse)

722 why ask for a jury trial at all?

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (M8yB3)

Because you don't know which judge you'll end up in front of. And therefore you don't know if they'll just toss you under the jail without thinking about it because... prosecutors. (Or, because ... politics.)

Posted by: GWB at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (Gcsm/)

723 Way too much to process tonight.
Thx for the thread, Weasel. And best to Jesse and SiD.
I'd say "prayers for the Waukesha kids", but it doesn't feel like enough.

Posted by: RI Red at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (a8b7P)

724
Not sure about Barnes.. Sour grapes ?
Posted by: It's me donna

He's definitely bitter, for good reason, but I sense he's being honest. And he's not talking out his ass -- he knows what's going on.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (QU9hs)

725 Regardless of what he wants, if Rittenhouse thinks he can get his life back, then he hasn't been paying attention. The woke won't ever let this go.

Posted by: Drift Back in Time at November 21, 2021 09:55 PM (E4NQ0)

726
noood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 21, 2021 09:55 PM (QU9hs)

727 I've learned to trust Robert Barns predictions.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 21, 2021 09:55 PM (ybIRR)

728 I wonder why the asshole backed the suv into the driveway. Seems like he would park and run.

Posted by: four seasons at November 21, 2021 09:53 PM

That was my thought too. If you're in a hurry to get away, why back in. Only thought now while typing this is, if they just got done with stealing something, they backed in in order to empty the contents of the SUV at the house? I dunno, none of this makes any sense.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 09:56 PM (Do5/p)

729 Every report I read said 3 black guys and eyewitnesses said driver deliberately targeted people. There are children dead. I don;t care why they ended up there, whether on purpose or by accident, they could have stopped. They were never going to get away. Better robbery than murder.
Posted by: s

did you watch the vids?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:56 PM (K3ZCc)

730 713 Be wary of the early ID... after all the Beltway Sniper was a guy in a white van.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM

I don't believe that was a description, I think it was from the FBI profilers!

When was the last time the FBI actually made some useful inference or prediction that stopped a major crime?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 21, 2021 09:56 PM (tkyK5)

731 @700: "Robert Barnes explained how Kyle is being taken advantage of by Grifters who are controlling the big fund that was raised."

I've been watching in the background with pauses. Lots of stuff Barnes has already said though. Honestly, Lin Wood and company arguing over who gets the $2m bail, months after being tossed off the case by the family, is sketchy at best. Also goes to show that the very first thing anyone should do in a similar situation is find a good accountant and tax attorney that's separate and independent from any initial criminal attorneys. Set up trusts, non-profits for donations, etc. Never, ever let that money stream through a criminal defense lawyer without oversight.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:56 PM (+WWsf)

732 718 Gracias Weasel fur noch ein ander gub thread. And what would be your tasting notes for the 1875, if you've already burned it?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (OTzUX)
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My pleasure.

Very well constructed but a little lighter than my daily cigar. Still highly recommended!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:57 PM (0IeYL)

733 My first question isn't: "Why did you have KR testify at trial [obviously in front of the empanneled jury]?, but rather "In a case where there was no evidence of guilt at all, why ask for a jury trial at all?"

Ah, that is a different -- and interesting -- question. Sorry for misunderstanding. Hopefully Andrew or someone else qualified will speak to it.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2021 09:58 PM (nfrXX)

734 Posted by: confederatefifth at November 21, 2021 09:52 PM (K3ZCc)

Why yes, yes I do, and how the hell are ya?!

Were I ever to find myself trapped in a car, surrounded by a bunch of threatening antifa scum, I'd give 'em the ol' Rachel Corrie treatment in a heartbeat.

I can think of several other scenarios, too.

But NOT, I assure you, a Christmas parade.

I still say the driver was fleeing a scene.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 21, 2021 09:58 PM (KrMCC)

735 Thanks for another Gun Thread, Weasel!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 21, 2021 09:58 PM (tkyK5)

736 Posted by: RI Red at November 21, 2021 09:54 PM (a8b7P)
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Yep, agreed.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 09:58 PM (0IeYL)

737 If it turns out police were chasing them? Police will be blamed for this. If not? Kyle Rittenhouse will be blamed for this.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 21, 2021 09:58 PM (OssQ4)

738 694 Oddbob: thanks for the info. My first question isn't: "Why did you have KR testify at trial [obviously in front of the empanneled jury]?, but rather "In a case where there was no evidence of guilt at all, why ask for a jury trial at all?"

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 09:50 PM (M8yB3)

Dont think he had option.

Posted by: redchief at November 21, 2021 09:59 PM (Kab4E)

739 @717: "Who's piling on? He says he supports BLM which now makes his offer to help the protesters make sense."

I say this half jokingly, but nearly every single girl his age, and all of his teachers, likely make a big fuss about supporting BLM, in theory. Kyle doesn't seem like he has the edge lord personality necessary to say "fuck those guys" on national news.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 10:00 PM (+WWsf)

740 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 21, 2021 09:58 PM (tkyK5)
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My pleasure! Too bad the rest of the news is so lousy.

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 10:00 PM (0IeYL)

741 I was stupid when I was a kid and, I suspect, I'm not the only one.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice!

I am 58 but still a kid at heart; therefore a Dumbass.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 10:00 PM (M8yB3)

742
I've been watching in the background with pauses. Lots of stuff Barnes has already said though. Honestly, Lin Wood and company arguing over who gets the $2m bail, months after being tossed off the case by the family, is sketchy at best. Also goes to show that the very first thing anyone should do in a similar situation is find a good accountant and tax attorney that's separate and independent from any initial criminal attorneys. Set up trusts, non-profits for donations, etc. Never, ever let that money stream through a criminal defense lawyer without oversight.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 21, 2021 09:56 PM (+WWsf)

They won't get the bail back...doesnt work that way. Doesnt mean there wont be a court case on it.

Posted by: redchief at November 21, 2021 10:01 PM (Kab4E)

743 My understanding about Rittenhouse testifying is that the local juries tend to hold it against the defendant if they don't take the stand.

I think he was always going to testify.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 21, 2021 10:01 PM (KrMCC)

744 Regarding "Why ask for a jury trial" when the facts are so favorable (like they were for Rittenhouse), in WI the prosecutor needs to agree to a bench trial. Heard that on Rekeita's stream.

Posted by: Jackal at November 21, 2021 10:01 PM (wcDsT)

745 >>Who's piling on? He says he supports BLM which now makes his offer to help the protesters make sense. I can be very happy he was found not guilty but still he highly disappointed that he supports BLM

He also did just did more for gun rights and self-defense than the NRA has done in years.

I am not surprised at all that a kid who is facing a life of looking over his shoulder is saying things to take the heat off him and I also doubt many would take the opportunity to turn the heat up by trashing people who are threatening to kill them.

I doubt he has any idea that BLM is a marxist political movement or even knows what marxism is for that matter. He sounds like a naive young kid who was thrust into the national spotlight he never asked for and just wants to get on with his life. He says he wants to go to school to be a nurse and they tend to help whomever is injured.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 10:02 PM (ZLI7S)

746 I seem to be playing the part of Contrary Annie here, but wasn't the entire point of the fund raiser to pay for his defense?! In which case, the lawyers[ i] should get it, or at least as much as what their normal fees are.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 21, 2021 10:03 PM (KrMCC)

747 Thanks, Oddbob and Redchief.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 10:03 PM (M8yB3)

748 Thanks Weasel. Long night for you tonight. Have a great Thanksgiving.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 10:05 PM (Y+l9t)

749 New years resolution - collect enough brass to cast a cannon.

Posted by: Eve in the garden at November 21, 2021 10:05 PM (TRGyz)

750 745 >>Who's piling on? He says he supports BLM which now makes his offer to help the protesters make sense. I can be very happy he was found not guilty but still he highly disappointed that he supports BLM

He also did just did more for gun rights and self-defense than the NRA has done in years.

I am not surprised at all that a kid who is facing a life of looking over his shoulder is saying things to take the heat off him and I also doubt many would take the opportunity to turn the heat up by trashing people who are threatening to kill them.

I doubt he has any idea that BLM is a marxist political movement or even knows what marxism is for that matter. He sounds like a naive young kid who was thrust into the national spotlight he never asked for and just wants to get on with his life. He says he wants to go to school to be a nurse and they tend to help whomever is injured.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2021 10:02 PM (ZLI7S)

Bingo, and note what follows it: an indictment of prosecutorial douchebaggery.

Posted by: Jackal at November 21, 2021 10:06 PM (wcDsT)

751 Regarding "Why ask for a jury trial" when the facts are so favorable (like they were for Rittenhouse), in WI the prosecutor needs to agree to a bench trial. Heard that on Rekeita's stream.

Posted by: Jackal

Ah so desu ka. Thanks.

That Wisconsin law seems to be an abrogation of the constitutional rights of the defendant to either have, or not have, a jury trial. Time to do some research of my own.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 10:06 PM (M8yB3)

752 New years resolution - collect enough brass to cast a cannon.

Posted by: Eve in the garden

The cannon used by general Washington's army in the early years of the Revolutionary War were all privately owned. I say go for it! The 2nd Amendment says you get to have a fucking cannon, Damnit.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 10:08 PM (M8yB3)

753 752 New years resolution - collect enough brass to cast a cannon.

Posted by: Eve in the garden

The cannon used by general Washington's army in the early years of the Revolutionary War were all privately owned. I say go for it! The 2nd Amendment says you get to have a fucking cannon, Damnit.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 10:08 PM (M8yB3)

We all need goals.

Posted by: redchief at November 21, 2021 10:10 PM (Kab4E)

754 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2021 10:05 PM (Y+l9t)
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Thank you! You too!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2021 10:10 PM (0IeYL)

755 Does one have to show proof of vax? (I am NOT freaking joking)
Posted by: Some Rat at November 21, 2021 09:13 PM (r1z5A)

I donate and i'm not vaxxed. No one seems fazed at the blood bank.

Posted by: MkY at November 21, 2021 10:12 PM (Foq6I)

756 When was the last time the FBI actually made some useful inference or prediction that stopped a major crime?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 21, 2021 09:56 PM

Was the guy who figured out the proper profile of the Unabomber a member of the FBI?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 21, 2021 10:19 PM (Do5/p)

757 Was the guy who figured out the proper profile of the Unabomber a member of the FBI?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton

The Unibomber's brother read the manifesto that was published and called the FIBs.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2021 10:24 PM (M8yB3)

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