Homeschooling: Even Better Than You Think (Part 1) [Bluebell]

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When I was in second grade I saw a photo like this in my textbook, and thought I would never get to see this place in person. I took this photo on our first cross-country trip.

My first homeschool post was meant to encourage those of you with school-aged children to REALLY consider homeschooling. You know all the reasons why you might not want your child in public school any longer, but I’d like to point out some benefits of homeschooling that you may not have thought of. Of course we all know the most obvious benefit is that you get to pick the curriculum and get away from all that stuff that the state thinks your kid ought to know about, but that you are sure your kid should NOT know about. But wait, there’s more! So much more. Here are some of the many benefits of homeschooling, in no particular order.

Family unity

Homeschooling brings a family together like nothing else. Literally, of course, because you are with your children all day. But also because you and your children really get to know each other. I’m not saying it’s always sunshine, happiness, and rainbows everywhere, but your children really will learn to get along. The older ones help with the younger ones, and even young children learning to read like reading to the baby (who is just happy to be read to). And you will be able to spot trouble when it’s brewing instead of when it overflows.

Travel when you like

After only a few years of homeschooling, I became spoiled. I learned that I never, ever want to travel anywhere during its high season again. The beach is gorgeous (and cheaper, and less crowded) in the middle of September. Go on the mountain hike with the kids during the week when the wildflowers are blooming in the spring, instead of on the weekend with everyone else. We’ve done cross-country trips in the fall where we are the only people in a small museum, or staying at a bed and breakfast, and we never had to circle around places looking for a parking place at popular national parks. Traveling off-season can yield significant financial savings, as well as less crowded attractions. And you may find yourself fulfilling a life-long dream of seeing Mt. Rushmore!

Kids (and you) get enough sleep

How often do your kids bring home a cold (or worse) from school? And how often do they (and you) stay up late doing homework or studying for a test? Although my kids got exposed to plenty of germs from our outside activities, they rarely got sick, and I attribute that to their being able to sleep as much as they needed. I let my kids sleep until they woke up naturally most days, unless we had to be somewhere early. As long as we got our work done, I really didn’t care when exactly we started. I let myself get extra rest too if I wasn’t feeling great. The kids never minded starting school later than usual, for some reason. As for getting the work done, they knew what they needed to get done, and they had plenty of time during the day to get it all finished. If they didn’t, they needed to finish at night. That rarely happened, until they were high school age and had outside classes.

More leisurely evenings

My kids all played sports, year-round. Like the other families, we had to fit in dinner and sports practice and/or games during the week. But unlike their teammates, my kids never had to come back home and study for a test or finish their homework afterwards. I remember standing with parents at Little League games sympathizing with them while they bemoaned the SOLs (Standards of Learning tests in Virginia administered to public school students in certain grades) that their kids were facing the next day and the studying they still had to finish up when they got home. Our hectic nights were oceans of calm compared to theirs.

Have I piqued your interest? Want to know more? Stay tuned for Part 2!

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1 Read the content.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2021 05:17 PM (kTF2Z)

2 And still got first. Hmmmmm.

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Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2021 05:17 PM (kTF2Z)

4 There's two of me two of me.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:17 PM (wyw4S)

5 Thank you, bluebell.

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6 Oooh, another cobtastic thread!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 05:18 PM (wAnMi)

7 Great stuff!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 22, 2021 05:18 PM (usgok)

8 Bluebell Two Times?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2021 05:18 PM (kTF2Z)

9 I feel like Jane D'oh's shrimp recipe in TDG.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:18 PM (wyw4S)

10 Bluebell Two Times?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2021 05:18 PM (kTF2Z)

That's my screw-up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 05:18 PM (Q9lwr)

11 I absolutely refuse to get a first.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 22, 2021 05:19 PM (Ocv6A)

12 That's my screw-up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 05:18 PM (Q9lwr)
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You felt it wasn't long enough, right?

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:19 PM (wyw4S)

13 Zero comments when I posted kept me an honest man!

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 22, 2021 05:19 PM (Ocv6A)

14 You felt it wasn't long enough, right?

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:19 PM (wyw4S)

The clamoring for any content from you is amazing. Luckily you signed a long-term deal with AoSHQ LLC for lots of good stuff!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 05:21 PM (Q9lwr)

15 When I was in second grade I saw a photo like this in my textbook, and thought I would never get to see this place in person. I took this photo on our first cross-country trip.

I'll have to drive back thru when Trump is added over on the right side.

Posted by: t-bird at November 22, 2021 05:21 PM (l0Lgi)

16 The one thing that I've learned - and that is making us lean toward it, and we'll likely take the plunge in the next year (which I don't know how that will influence my run for school board) - is that what my kid could learn in 15 minutes and move on to the next topic is required to be taught for three weeks, and taught in sixteen different ways. And the kid is required to show that they can do the sixteen different WAYS, and not just come up with the correct answer when asked.

They're purposely slowing education down and creating make-work environments. F*ck that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - FDA requests 2076 as release date for safety approval data on vax at November 22, 2021 05:21 PM (CM8Oa)

17 Kids (and you) get enough sleep

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Kids getting more rest and more "recess" seem to be two of the biggest benefits.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 22, 2021 05:22 PM (sX1BW)

18 I'll say this against homeschooling: it makes dating tough.

But slightly more seriously, my brother Brian homeschooled his kids. My sister Kari did not. Brian's kids mostly came out better...but they are pretty socially awkward and don't have much idea of what kind of careers they're capable of pursuing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 22, 2021 05:24 PM (XvPQV)

19 Kids getting more rest and more "recess" seem to be two of the biggest benefits.
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 22, 2021 05:22 PM (sX1BW)
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Yes. My kids were always out riding their bikes, or playing on the swing set, or building mud pies or throwing the baseball or kicking the soccer ball. Just like when we were kids.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:24 PM (wyw4S)

20 Yay bluebell thread!

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:24 PM (YZG/i)

21 At this point in time, letting your children go to a 'normal' public school is tantamount to child abuse.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 22, 2021 05:24 PM (5kI0z)

22 But slightly more seriously, my brother Brian homeschooled his kids. My sister Kari did not. Brian's kids mostly came out better...but they are pretty socially awkward and don't have much idea of what kind of careers they're capable of pursuing.

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As home schooling becomes a bit more mainstream, it will be a little self-selective in terms of achievers - right - on average? The answer is fairly obvious.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 22, 2021 05:26 PM (sX1BW)

23 I'm so glad my kids are out of school. I do worry about grandkids. One in particular is "depressed" according to his mother... likely a result of the bullshit masking that has been foisted on him. Home schooling is out of the question for him right now and if his mother had the means a private school would probably be a good option.

Public schools are poison to kids.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2021 05:26 PM (BFigT)

24 Absolutely true.

Posted by: RS at November 22, 2021 05:27 PM (1XDfN)

25 Schools need to get back to teaching reading, writing and arithmetic. And give the money to the parents so they get to choose what school and curriculum.

No more social justice, sex education or virtue signaling.

If a teacher fails to teach and wants to indoctrinate, fire their ass.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 22, 2021 05:27 PM (haWye)

26 There will be 50%+ of the nation homeschooling when the clot shots become mandatory. And they will become mandatory.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at November 22, 2021 05:28 PM (BZjG5)

27 Headline just seen " PARADE TURNS DEADLY"
Yup just happens sometimes....

Posted by: steevy at November 22, 2021 05:28 PM (CYnTg)

28 There will be 50%+ of the nation homeschooling when the clot shots become mandatory. And they will become mandatory.

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You make a good case for mandatory vaccinations.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 22, 2021 05:28 PM (sX1BW)

29 17 Kids (and you) get enough sleep
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Kids getting more rest and more "recess" seem to be two of the biggest benefits.
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 22, 2021 05:22 PM (sX1BW)

My kid works four days of the week (to do five days of school work), and has Fridays off. He likes it that way, and gets lots of sleep at night, as well as enough time for undirected play, which is an additional benefit. A side benefit is that he has the opportunity to interact with adults and children of different ages, rather than being corralled into an artificial construct of learning to socialize with other 12-year-olds, who are trying to learn themselves. That's a big one for me.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 22, 2021 05:29 PM (R037X)

30 My daughter is homeschooling the g-babies.

In CRT and how to ignore viewpoints that you don't agree with.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 22, 2021 05:29 PM (g5NP5)

31 Excellent presentation! Good benefits many would not consider.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at November 22, 2021 05:29 PM (7EjX1)

32 ----------------

Kids getting more rest and more "recess" seem to be two of the biggest benefits.
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 22, 2021 05:22 PM (sX1BW)
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Quality of education is the biggest benefit
Not being introduced to public ed's planned vulgarity may be second

Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 05:29 PM (ET3Lq)

33 Let's be honest:

the *one* sunny silver lining of this whole shitty COVID business is the great opening our side got on homeschooling.

People who in the past never would have considered it are now being forced to do it, even.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:30 PM (L2ZTs)

34 Save that picture, may not have it muchecked longer

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 22, 2021 05:30 PM (AJEol)

35
Unfortunately, homeschooling deprives your child of interacting with other students of diverse backgrounds. Like Antwaan, who's 6'1", 245 pounds and has been in 4th grade for the last six years.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 05:30 PM (/U27+)

36 My kids are past the age now, but when I was a young mom,one of the barriers I had about homeschooling was not feeling adequate to the task.

Bluebell, or other homeschooling parents, what serious advice would you give young parents considering this who lack confidence?

Is there.like mini training or something?

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:31 PM (YZG/i)

37 Home schooling is out of the question for him right now and if his mother had the means a private school would probably be a good option.

Public schools are poison to kids.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2021 05:26 PM (BFigT)
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Just encourage her to stay abreast of everything that goes on in the school, and look at the stuff he brings home. The more involved the parents are in the schools, the better for the kids.

Looks like i just put myself on The List. Eh, I'm sure I've been on it for years!

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:31 PM (wyw4S)

38 I've home schooled. This post is 100% why I loved it. I moved my oldest to an online high school after my 2nd oldest asked to try out public school in 7th grade. She went on to immediately run for school government and try every after school program she wanted. My oldest completed his HS diploma and was recruited into the Navy as a Nuc. (He didn't end up there as they found a medical dis qualifier while he was in RTC) My 2nd is now becoming an accountant. Neither have had many issues with socialization or social interaction. My 3rd is on the spectrum and is online for HS, but has formed great friends through church. Not all families are cut out for full home schooling but if you are, it's wonderful.

Posted by: thekatzemeow at November 22, 2021 05:32 PM (kbzch)

39 33 Let's be honest:

the *one* sunny silver lining of this whole shitty COVID business is the great opening our side got on homeschooling.

People who in the past never would have considered it are now being forced to do it, even.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:30 PM (L2ZTs)
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It would be interesting to track the "COVID Class" of new homeschoolers to see how they fare at graduation. I suspect it is going to be inspiring.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 22, 2021 05:32 PM (usgok)

40 Yeah. Our oldest is doing well. We really like that we can go camping whenever and not have to time it around school.

We are not currently planning to homeschool the youngest, but that's because he's extremely social. Yes, we COULD do it if we got together with other families and had him socialize with their kids...but then WE would have to be social. We are thinking about a local Montessori school for him.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 05:33 PM (yr54B)

41 I'll say this against homeschooling: it makes dating tough.

You'd be surprised.

Posted by: Hunter B. at November 22, 2021 05:33 PM (9Fwwf)

42 The left is also homeschooling their kids.

My daughter, for example.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 22, 2021 05:33 PM (g5NP5)

43 My niece has homeschooled her twins for the past several years. They are both beautiful, well mannered girls. The one year they were in public schools they were constantly bullied. Kids are asshole sometimes. Herd mentality I guess, idk.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 22, 2021 05:33 PM (nxdel)

44 Mrs Peel, Montessori schools are pretty awesome

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:34 PM (YZG/i)

45 Thank you so much for posting this.

I believe that doing Homeschooling will be the best move and perhaps the only move that we can make at this time that will really impact our children's education.

The Unions will either change the way they do things or go after the Homeschoolers. (I'm betting they'll try to make it illegal or so difficult to apply for/allow by the state)

Either way there will be fights and they will be public ones and not behind the closed doors of the politburo like conference rooms most School Boards have had built for themselves. (ain't it amazing how they all mostly look alike and look like a tribunal scene from some dystopian movie where the protagonist gets tried for his bad thought and action)

Bless you for homeschooling your kids and for encouraging others to do so.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 22, 2021 05:35 PM (gxzx7)

46 SMH, are they learning anything besides "whitey sucks" and "America is evil"?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:35 PM (L2ZTs)

47 A family from our homeschool group - yes, there are such things, and the kids are very socialized, respectful, and caring - spent 8 or so years on the road in a fifth-wheel with three young children. Finally, on the fourth, with a toddler, they decided to buy land and build. The visited national parks in the lower 48 as part of their homeschool education. Another family flips houses, and it is truly a family affair.

Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2021 05:35 PM (SH2Zi)

48 In case you may have been wondering, idaho has the same, screwed up education system as any where else. The creep of brain numbing socialism has its tentacles in every pore of humanity.

Posted by: Idahonian at November 22, 2021 05:35 PM (JUcCg)

49 Bless you Bluebell.

A relative is doing this. His wife is a teacher and will be home schooling the kids while he does small business entrepreneur stuff on the road. Sold their house, packed everything up into a van, and are traveling. Once oldest hits high school will settle down someplace, but for now school is on the road.

They have gone amazing places and the kids have experienced amazing things. Am jealous.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 05:35 PM (tfDou)

50 Vmom, I would tell young parents that if they can raise their child, which presumably they are doing, they can homeschool. If they start with kindergarten, it's super easy. It takes no more than an hour a day at that age, and it doesn't have to be in one sitting.

If they pull kids out of school, that's fine too. The kids will have an adjustment period, of course. There are many, many homeschooling books that talk about this, probably many at the local library.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:35 PM (wyw4S)

51 Can you imagine learning real history, math, and literature? Homeschoolers are going to be dynamite. I think of all the empty garbage I went thru (except for math, which was very good)...

Posted by: t-bird at November 22, 2021 05:35 PM (vOGqy)

52 My daughter is homeschooling the g-babies.

In CRT and how to ignore viewpoints that you don't agree with.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 22, 2021 05:29 PM (g5NP5)


Ugh, I'm sorry SMH. I was hoping things were getting better between you two.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 22, 2021 05:36 PM (Ez6QX)

53 Chuck-E-Cheese is a whole lot quieter at 10am on a school day. "Investigating the Entertainment Habits of the Giant North American Mouse" we called it.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 05:36 PM (BJKQV)

54 One thing I think we can all agree on:

- The kids of rightie parents, when homeschooled, will get a real, well-rounded education on the basics, including the bases of Western Civilization.

- The kids of lefty parents, when homeschooled, will learn nothing but hateful propaganda and how to be destructive.

When the time comes for these people to join the job market, guess who will get all the best jobs?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:36 PM (L2ZTs)

55 No kids but for families wondering "can we afford this?" I recently got a raise at work. over 450 more per time period for gross pay. Less than 280 more for net pay. Plus daycare when little or as after school, hidden costs, like much harder to get by with just one commuter vehicle if both parents work, the extra gas and insurance etc etc. I think a full budget of what it costs for the 'free' schooling would be eye opening.

And if you love your work and have a good private school option thats great.

Colorado has a neat program where charter schools, including online charter schools are funded. If you can't imagine coming up with the curriculum and everything online charters are probably a good introductory option.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 22, 2021 05:36 PM (3cGpq)

56 SMH, are they learning anything besides "whitey sucks" and "America is evil"?
Posted by: qdpsteve
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They're being taught other things.

At least they can read and write.

The older one has issues in controlling her temper and she lashes out.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 22, 2021 05:37 PM (g5NP5)

57 I've often told people home schooling is a life style not just doing school at home. You do best when the kids are engaged and some times that's in the car running errands, cooking, camping, what ever. You teach at all times.

Posted by: thekatzemeow at November 22, 2021 05:37 PM (kbzch)

58 I was in Montessori myself. I'm a huge fan. It's not right for every kid, but I think it would be great for our youngest. He's currently in a Montessori kindergarten.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 05:37 PM (yr54B)

59 FUN FACT: I knew Bluebell back when she was just another commenter.

*tugs at lapels*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 05:38 PM (guGkK)

60 PaleRider, how is the bruised thigh? Did you get it looked at?

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:38 PM (YZG/i)

61 Ugh, I'm sorry SMH. I was hoping things were getting better between you two.
Posted by: Jordan61
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Yeah, I thought so too, until I brought up Kyle Rittenhouse and she lost her mind.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 22, 2021 05:38 PM (g5NP5)

62 >>> 25 Schools need to get back to teaching reading, writing and arithmetic. And give the money to the parents so they get to choose what school and curriculum.

No more social justice, sex education or virtue signaling.

If a teacher fails to teach and wants to indoctrinate, fire their ass.

Problem solved.
Posted by: Czech Chick at November 22, 2021 05:27 PM (haWye)

Terrorist! REEEEEEE!!!!

Posted by: NSBA and NEA at November 22, 2021 05:38 PM (llON8)

63 Sometimes I'm glad I never had kids (not often) but the state of today's schools is certainly one. Public schools were still good in CA when I was there, but the writing was on the wall, certainly.

It's odd, in spite of the SF bay area being so secular and anti-Christian, that there's an enormous waiting list for the growing Christian schools in the area. It's as close as you can get to a private school with a lower cost. The private middle schools I'm familiar with are about $70k/year.

One thing that CA has done right is allow for charter schools to flourish, they've certainly got my support. Especially when I see middle and high schoolers leaving for the day, and what's passing for "kids" coming from Nicaragua/Honduras and points north.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 05:39 PM (wAnMi)

64 I do sometimes wonder how many young couples are hesitating to have children based on the fear of early public education.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 05:39 PM (+WWsf)

65 I live in NoVa like bluebell and wish that we had been able to do homeschooling. I will make a lot of excuses here.

That being said Thomas Jefferson is Fairfax County's super duper magnet high school rated as one of the top in the country for academics. This will likely not last long as the education establishment has decided that a top rated high school is not equitable. I mean it is 70% Asian student body but there you are.

Anyway, as you might imagine, TJ is NOT tops in sports. In fact, so not tops that they were beaten by a team of homeschooling players! (Yeah I know Tebow but you know what I mean)

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2021 05:39 PM (mbFEM)

66 Bluebell, or other homeschooling parents, what serious advice would you give young parents considering this who lack confidence?

Is there.like mini training or something?

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:31 PM (YZG/i)

The feeling is real. You only have to be smarter than a fifth grader and dedicated. Curricula abound, and you can choose what is right for you. First year was too much math churn for our oldest, and we switched midstream to a program more suited to his abilities. You make it work.

Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2021 05:39 PM (SH2Zi)

67 Hiya Bluebell !

Posted by: JT at November 22, 2021 05:39 PM (arJlL)

68 Daughter of Diogenes #2 is about to hit the road with her family as soon as they sell the house and get the mobile home. They are ready and she has already discovered a couple travel groups doing the same thing.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 22, 2021 05:39 PM (usgok)

69 They are ready and she has already discovered a couple travel groups doing the same thing.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 22, 2021 05:39 PM (usgok)

Gypsies!

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:40 PM (YZG/i)

70 FUN FACT: I knew Bluebell back when she was just another commenter.

*tugs at lapels*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 05:38 PM (guGkK)
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I still am. I can't afford to do this gig full time. CBD charges me $599.99 per post. Funny amount, I know, but you know how he is.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:40 PM (wyw4S)

71 FUN FACT: I knew Bluebell back when she was just another commenter.

*tugs at lapels*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

Pre-shiv ?

Posted by: JT at November 22, 2021 05:41 PM (arJlL)

72 In a few years the American Taliban will give rushmore the Bimyan Buddha treatment.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 05:41 PM (UkBFs)

73 There's an online school that supposedly has lesson plans on everything a child needs all the way through high school, called K12.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:41 PM (L2ZTs)

74
But how will your kids learn about slavery?!?!?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 05:41 PM (/U27+)

75 I still am. I can't afford to do this gig full time. CBD charges me $599.99 per post.

Bandwidth isn't free, you know.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 05:42 PM (UkBFs)

76 Meh. When it comes to homeschooling, the sex with teachers isn't nearly as good as when I was in public school.

Of course, it's way better than the sex from when we took that field trip to the Lincoln Project.

Posted by: 14 year-old boy at November 22, 2021 05:42 PM (FJYfm)

77 bluebell, you don't get paid to post? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:42 PM (L2ZTs)

78 I still am. I can't afford to do this gig full time. CBD charges me $599.99 per post. Funny amount, I know, but you know how he is.
Posted by: bluebell

Can ya pay him in maple syrup ?

Posted by: JT at November 22, 2021 05:42 PM (arJlL)

79
If you understand the difference between heterogeneous grouping and homogeneous grouping and the 'zone of proximal development' as it relates to the two groupings, you'll understand why you want to home school, and why.

It's not rocket science. You want your child sitting next to his peer group, like your own education experience. Circa 2021, the school wants your child sitting next to the worst child in the school to raise him/her up, while lowering your own child's education.

It's pathetic and most certainly not in the best interest of the country.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 22, 2021 05:42 PM (dQvv7)

80 I neglected doggeh today - too busy to walk him - and am.makingnit up to him by letting him watch sumo rerun.

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:42 PM (YZG/i)

81 I wusn't hume skulled. Iz wint tu pubLiK SkoUl.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 22, 2021 05:42 PM (sAmhv)

82 A thought I have had:

I would never wish to return to the pre industrial caste system of men and women in separate spheres, where women were denied equality in vocations. But one benefit of a society where women are only allowed a small sliver of acceptable jobs, like teacher, is that the most whip smart, independent women of the day went into teaching, and their pupils benefited as a result. Once more jobs were open to women they fled to those and lowered the available number of good female teachers.

Having only the most whip-smart of teachers in public schools is definitely no longer a problem.

(This is not a knock to the good teachers in the Horde! You are valued and you bless those around you!)

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 05:43 PM (tfDou)

83
Does the Bluebell Institute have courses on shiv manufacture?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 05:43 PM (/U27+)

84 Vmom. It is fine. The swelling is reducing. I am taking anti-clotting medication, aka as buffered aspirin and ibuprofen as a precaution. Everything I've read says that when you get these bruises with actual swelling it takes a good while for the swelling to completely go away. All the lovely coloring near my skin faded within 2 weeks just like any bruise does.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 22, 2021 05:43 PM (3cGpq)

85 @70: 'Funny amount, I know, but you know how he is."

Cheaper if you barter with sous vide bags!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 05:43 PM (+WWsf)

86 SMH.

Don't know what to say here.

Other than keep reading the scriptures.

Posted by: Golfman at November 22, 2021 05:43 PM (hOMhY)

87 Puddleglum, it shows! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:43 PM (L2ZTs)

88 I never had a lack of confidence in the teaching part. It's the social part. Getting to know other parents and chatting with them at events. I'm bad at that. (Apparently, noise abatement design is not a popular topic of conversation at Main Event, though perhaps it SHOULD be.)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 05:44 PM (yr54B)

89 Posted by: PaleRider at November 22, 2021 05:43 PM (3cGpq)

Good to hear

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:44 PM (YZG/i)

90 I still am. I can't afford to do this gig full time. CBD charges me $599.99 per post. Funny amount, I know, but you know how he is.
Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:40 PM (wyw4S)


ICWYDT

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 05:44 PM (wAnMi)

91 Bless you for homeschooling your kids and for encouraging others to do so.

Amen.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 22, 2021 05:44 PM (Xrfse)

92 bluebell, in the meantime, pay CBD entirely in expired El Pollo Loco coupons!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:44 PM (L2ZTs)

93 And all of those elements of flexibility, bluebell, are what make homeschooling available even to lots of people who think it just can't be done! Single moms, poor families with 3 jobs, and so on. You can work homeschooling _AROUND_ your necessaries.

I would say one other really big advantage is you can teach the kids to be interested in _anything_. I've before spouted off about teaching physics, chemistry, biology, materials science, mathematics, and conservation all in one visit to a big amusement park. Even my kid loved it!

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 05:46 PM (Gcsm/)

94 But how will your kids learn about slavery?!?!?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 05:41 PM (/U27+)
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Wait until you see part 2, in which I discuss the benefits of making your kids clean the house for free.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:46 PM (wyw4S)

95 CBD charges me $599.99 per post.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:40 PM (wyw4S)

I have expenses, and besides, Weasel gets half as a finder's fee.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 05:46 PM (Q9lwr)

96 Wait until you see part 2, in which I discuss the benefits of making your kids clean the house for free.
Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:46 PM (wyw4S)


Reparations paid in ice cream!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 05:47 PM (wAnMi)

97
Wait until you see part 2, in which I discuss the benefits of making your kids clean the house for free.
Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:46 PM (wyw4S)

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Oh, the Dotheboys Hall approach to pedagogy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 05:47 PM (/U27+)

98 I have expenses, and besides, Weasel gets half as a finder's fee.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 05:46 PM (Q9lwr)


Well, if you're splitting it you didn't need to worry about the $600 IRS-flagging figure, did you?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 05:47 PM (wAnMi)

99 Does the Bluebell Institute have courses on shiv manufacture?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 05:43 PM (/U27+)
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That's part of my grad school curriculum.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:48 PM (wyw4S)

100 Everybody look out for my AoS post coming up next!:

"The Joy Of Daytime TV"

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:48 PM (L2ZTs)

101 Posted by: Golfman
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It's all in God's hands at this point.

Nothing I can do to change her heart or mind.

She will have to learn the hard way.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 22, 2021 05:48 PM (g5NP5)

102 >>> biology, materials science, mathematics, and conservation all in one visit to a big amusement park. Even my kid loved it!
Posted by: GWB at Novemb

Awesome idea! How do taxes work if you home school, is that written off as an education expense?

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 05:49 PM (tfDou)

103 The public school system has been taken over by the evil one so yes.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 05:49 PM (cSyAR)

104 Is Mr Dildo the lead cob?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 05:50 PM (cSyAR)

105 Home schooled and private HS students are rocking the National Merit Scholarship awards. Those students are winning at a much higher average than Public schools want to admit.

Homeschooled is a superior education, at a time when we need all our brain power to just keep even.

Look at the Spelling and Geography Bee finalists for more confirmation.

bluebell, may you continue to be blessed with your wise decisions.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 05:50 PM (u82oZ)

106 When the time comes for these people to join the job market, guess who will get all the best jobs?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:36 PM (L2ZTs)

The lefty kids will because they will do lots of NETWORKING!!! "It's not what you know but WHO you know!" Americans very cheerfully chirp, not knowing or caring that this attitude leads to corruption and many things going to shit.

If you do not make 300 million "friends" and use them to find work, no matter how qualified you are, America has something to say to you: DROP DEAD.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 05:50 PM (CdZ4i)

107 I have homeschooled all of my kids through high school, and my main advice is to find a co-op or homeschool group in your area where you can meet like-minded people. It makes everything so much easier, in terms of making friends (for you and your kids), trading advice and curriculum, field trips, etc.

Posted by: Little Miss Strange at November 22, 2021 05:51 PM (glxcb)

108 Brother Northernlurker

I like to think of CBD as the BSD hammer-ass COS to the mysterious ace.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 05:51 PM (u82oZ)

109 Bless you again Bluebell. You're doing God's work here.

Please, for the love of all that's holy and your own family... do not send your kids to public schools. For our future. For our hope. For the sake of your children.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2021 05:51 PM (KZzsI)

110 "Kids (and you) get enough sleep

How often do your kids bring home a cold (or worse) from school? And how often do they (and you) stay up late doing homework or studying for a test?"

This, for crying out loud. Much better than going to school at the asscrack of dawn just because some other parents' kids needs to peak at 18 chasing a fucking ball around, and dragging home every fucking sniffle that passes through the school.

I can't take anyone seriously unless they're homeschooling or making serious efforts to enable homeschooling in the future. Dual-income fueled gewgaws have been used to string along well-meaning normies for far too long.

It broke my heart to watch a former coworker with kids significantly older than mine... I watched them grow up, go off to school, then come back and lecture him about his privilege. Maybe they'll learn some day - maybe they won't. And I've lost a ton of family members to university indoctrination. We're talking change-their-pronouns-west-coast-hobo level shit.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 22, 2021 05:51 PM (EI5xb)

111 I remember my last of school like it was yesterday

It was a Tuesday and I had skipped out on Monday so could buy and sell antiques at Canton
a Dallas couple bought a large pair of armchairs from me but could not get them in their car
so after the show wained out, I delivered the chairs to Dallas
the people made me a fine dinner and I had a few drinks and passed out

got up early thee next morning and drove the 100 miles back to Yantis

fell asleep in class and the teacher ask me why I even bothered

left and never went back, 1966

Posted by: REDACTED at November 22, 2021 05:52 PM (us2H3)

112 Not all families are cut out for full home schooling but if you are, it's wonderful.
Posted by: thekatzemeow at November 22, 2021 05:32 PM (kbzch)
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Good for you for figuring out what's best for your family! As you know, there is no one size fits all when it comes to school.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 05:52 PM (wyw4S)

113 Circa 2021, the school wants your child sitting next to the worst child in the school to raise him/her up, while lowering your own child's education.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus

A variation on this problem was my daughter in K-3. She was used as a tutor for the other kids because she read it and understood.
The problem with that is she wasn't challenged... I wasn't challenged when in school and was a very, very poor student because of it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 22, 2021 05:53 PM (mMQZc)

114 Cow Demon, right, the lefty kids will get hired first.

Then they'll show up dressed improperly, refuse to take direction, scream/yell/cuss at the customers, do the same to their superiors, take a 90 minute lunch when they were given 30, physically assault their co-workers, and not be able to figure out which restroom to use.

After enough abuse, employers (in free states) will see the light and start hiring the righty kids.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:53 PM (L2ZTs)

115 All you Sub-loggers shouldn't use up all your material on the first day of Ace's vacation. It's been a festival of content today.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 22, 2021 05:53 PM (yQpMk)

116 Homeschool is the best way.
My oldest daughter would get done with her work early. She asked what she should do. I told her she was old enough to work , go get a job.

Posted by: Joe Meyer at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (8Kz7x)

117 My grandkids are in a Christian school. My niece is homeschooling her teenage daughters after their Christian school went SOGI.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (cSyAR)

118 I had another thought:

Colleges have to, by law, keep stats on any cases of rape, sexual assault, fondling, gun violence, etc. reported to authorities and document it every year. You can look up these reports for free.

Why do we not do this for K-12 schools? It would probably be eye opening, as long as you get students to report. Would help parents see what is going on in their schools. Or is letting parents actually know what is going on in their schools the problem the government must avoid at all costs?

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (tfDou)

119 I home schooled my daughters as a single mother. We only did it for a few years you years but it was great and I wish we had kept doing it longer. The oldest daughter was home schooled in 3rd 4th and 5th grade . The youngest daughter was home schooled in 1st 2nd 3rd and 5th grade. If I could do it as a single parent working full time and with only an associate degree, you can do it too!

Posted by: MammaB at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (HkGDB)

120 fell asleep in class and the teacher ask me why I even bothered

left and never went back, 1966
Posted by: REDACTED

So, you're not really 29, are ya ?

Posted by: JT at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (arJlL)

121 I like the homeschooling movement. And the more public schools trot out crap like "but socialization", the more I roll my eyes at them.

Going to a public school is very simply playing the lottery. In elementary school (example) my fourth-grade teacher was absolutely bloody amazing, and my third-grade teacher wasn't bad. The rest were just there to get a paycheck. (My fifth grade teacher was an evil tyrant who insisted I wouldn't get past sixth grade with my handwriting. Well, I got an M.A. now...) For the money we pay, why aren't ALL the teachers amazing and top-notch?

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (CdZ4i)

122 >>> I let my kids sleep until they woke up naturally most days, unless we had to be somewhere early. As long as we got our work done, I really didn't care when exactly we started.

This hints at another benefit. Our kids are learning to self-direct their work at a much younger age than I thought would be reasonable. They know the tradeoffs between dragging your feet on an assignment, goofing off and not getting anything done, and having time for extracurricular activities.

Have I mentioned before that my first grader has started division about a month ago?

Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2021 05:55 PM (SH2Zi)

123 A realistic alternative to those that can't swing home schooling for whatever reason is to get yourself some place where you can have the kids learn with other families' kids.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 22, 2021 05:55 PM (EI5xb)

124
Why do we not do this for K-12 schools? It would probably be eye opening, as long as you get students to report. Would help parents see what is going on in their schools. Or is letting parents actually know what is going on in their schools the problem the government must avoid at all costs?
Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (tfDou)

If you had such things at hand you might get bad ideas, like holding school boards and other government officials accountable. They don't like that.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 05:56 PM (CdZ4i)

125 @118: "Why do we not do this for K-12 schools?"

Some (most) states do, but generally, it's only "officially referred to police" kinda stats, and thus way too easily manipulated.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 05:56 PM (+WWsf)

126 LizLem

That relevant info is kept top secret, so no one finds out how bad it is.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 05:56 PM (u82oZ)

127
Have I mentioned before that my first grader has started division about a month ago?
Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2021 05:55 PM (SH2Zi)

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Well, don't go showing any of his work on this blog.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 05:56 PM (/U27+)

128 114 Cow Demon, right, the lefty kids will get hired first.

Then they'll show up dressed improperly, refuse to take direction, scream/yell/cuss at the customers, do the same to their superiors, take a 90 minute lunch when they were given 30, physically assault their co-workers, and not be able to figure out which restroom to use.

After enough abuse, employers (in free states) will see the light and start hiring the righty kids.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 05:53 PM (L2ZTs)

You are much more optimistic than I.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 05:57 PM (CdZ4i)

129 Is Mr Dildo the lead cob?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 05:50 PM (cSyAR)


The great sous vide in the sky has spoken.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 05:57 PM (wAnMi)

130 All you Sub-loggers shouldn't use up all your material on the first day of Ace's vacation.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 22, 2021 05:53 PM (yQpMk)

Just wait! There's tons of good stuff coming this week.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 05:57 PM (Q9lwr)

131 I started division last week. Better late than never, I always say.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (Xrfse)

132 I'm all for homeschooling, but would recommend backing it up with CTE (Career & Technical Education)

I come from industry and teach Engineering/Mechatronics and I have a bunch of homeschool students who spend 1/2 day with me.

You can't beat 750k+ worth of equipment and project supplies. Plus most CTE instructors are center right and don't put up with lib BS.

Posted by: Robinton at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (BPsVh)

133 I'm watching Sam the Cooking Guy making candied bacon and making things with candied bacon. Yum.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (cSyAR)

134 So, you're not really 29, are ya ?
Posted by: JT at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (arJlL)

I turned 70 in August

at 60, I was still breathing fire

now, I'm lucky to get out of my slippers

can't believe how much fastball I lost in 10 years

Posted by: REDACTED at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (us2H3)

135 We joined Sea Scouts. Because we homeschooled the boys they could participate in events during the day when the sad kids were in school.
Just one example: several times they got to sail the ship (72 foot wooden diesel powered - One boy on helm, one on engines and one on deck) six hours up to Pt Townsend for the annual drydock. Then they lived in Pt Townsend for a couple of weeks - helped haul out the boat, put up scaffolding, sanded and painted, helped with repairs and then led crews of public-school attending scouts who could come up on the weekends.
My wife stayed with them and cooked for the crew. It was an amazing experience for everyone.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (BJKQV)

136 I have homeschooled all of my kids through high school, and my main advice is to find a co-op or homeschool group in your area where you can meet like-minded people. It makes everything so much easier, in terms of making friends (for you and your kids), trading advice and curriculum, field trips, etc.

Posted by: Little Miss Strange at November 22, 2021 05:51 PM (glxcb)

This X1000.

Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (SH2Zi)

137 Posted by: Little Miss Strange at November 22, 2021 05:51 PM (glxcb)

This X1000.
Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (SH2Zi)

Yep. My boys are older now and the kids they met in the co-op are their life-long friends.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 05:59 PM (BJKQV)

138 There's probably a small fortune to be made as an outside hiring consultant who has figured out a seemingly harmless and random questionnaire that screens for personality traits and political beliefs without running afoul of anti-discrimination laws and regulations.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 05:59 PM (+WWsf)

139 If I could do it as a single parent working full time and with only an associate degree, you can do it too!
Posted by: MammaB at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (HkGDB)
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Good for you - how wonderful! I know several single parents who homeschool, and some who didn't go to college at all. It doesn't matter. In fact, I know more than a few homeschoolers who are teaching their kids (in English) and the moms' first language is something else.

I'll never forget one friend who ran after me in the parking lot after church one day with a notebook and pencil. She wanted me to show her how we did long division, because in the country where she grew up it was done very differently (with the division "house" upside down) and she wanted to make sure she could explain it to her daughter the way it was in her book.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:00 PM (wyw4S)

140 I know with Mr Dildo around trolls won't get away with anything.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:00 PM (cSyAR)

141 Well, don't go showing any of his work on this blog.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 05:56 PM (/U27+)

He's not AoSHQ level math, yet. I'll give him a month or two.

Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2021 06:00 PM (SH2Zi)

142 One of the maddening things about the teacher's unions is that they have promulgated the outrageous lie that teaching is difficult and requires specialized skills that can be acquired only in education programs.

They are absolutely wrong. Teaching is not difficult, it simply requires organization and dedication. But they want parents to be intimidated, so they pretend and obfuscate and add unnecessary shit to the school day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 06:01 PM (Q9lwr)

143 Many home schooling kids met were on vacation in off season

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 22, 2021 06:01 PM (AJEol)

144 Walter Freeman

Already been done. And stopped. Too many accomplished males that were white were picked.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 06:01 PM (u82oZ)

145 I know with Mr Dildo around trolls won't get away with anything.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:00 PM (cSyAR)

And neither will the Manhattan-shaking fiends who lurk behind every corner around here!

I'M ON TO YOU!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (Q9lwr)

146 No kids here - because women simply are not interested. BUT here's a thought, IF I ever have kids:

I could homeschool most everything but that one evil subject: math. I could show them how to make change for a dollar and...that's about it. (I flamed out in algebra. Once letters became part of the equation, that was it. Though I started flying through geometrical concepts.) So what would be the workaround there?

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (CdZ4i)

147 REDACTED

God Bless Ya !

Posted by: JT at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (arJlL)

148 I'm so fucking old, I can't even recognize a troll

just think they are someone else I don't like

Posted by: REDACTED at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (us2H3)

149 He's not AoSHQ level math, yet. I'll give him a month or two.
Posted by: flounder at November 22, 2021 06:00 PM (SH2Zi)
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So you're saying he hasn't learned to divide by zero yet.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (wyw4S)

150 The socialization argument for public school is a joke. If they mean getting along with others, school time is the only time in their life they will be in a social setting where everyone is exactly the same age - there is no point in that, and if by socialization they mean learning the left's idea about how evil the West is, nobody should have to put up with that.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (5kI0z)

151 I come from industry and teach Engineering/Mechatronics and I have a bunch of homeschool students who spend 1/2 day with me.

You can't beat 750k+ worth of equipment and project supplies. Plus most CTE instructors are center right and don't put up with lib BS.
Posted by: Robinton at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (BPsVh)

My state has a program called "Running Start" where Jrs and Srs in HS can instead go to community college OR trade school for free. That's how my middle son got his diesel mechanic degree.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (BJKQV)

152 The notion that teachers are underpaid makes me grind my teeth.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (cSyAR)

153 I'M ON TO YOU!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (Q9lwr)

Emma to Flap

my fav movie quote

Posted by: REDACTED at November 22, 2021 06:03 PM (us2H3)

154 Bless all the home schoolers. Whoever said that until the '70's, all the teachers were the best and the brightest of the women in our society were correct.
Now, with exceptions, they're the ones who had to cheat to pass 7th grade... and on.
Several groups of grandchildren are home schooled. Find a group of like minded parents, and share the load.

Posted by: MkY at November 22, 2021 06:03 PM (Foq6I)

155 Darrell's 'fight' path reconstructed from onlookers' videos...

https://twitter.com/MrNukemCocaine/status/
1462819167405498374

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 22, 2021 06:03 PM (UHVv4)

156 Just wait! There's tons of good stuff coming this week.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 05:57 PM (Q9lwr)

French toast & Maple syrup FTW!

Posted by: tbodie at November 22, 2021 06:03 PM (WyqH5)

157 @144: "Already been done. And stopped."

You'd almost have to use shell companies, change names every few months, never use the same questionnaire twice, and setup a secret society of CEOs and HR managers that only discussed your services in hushed tones.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 06:04 PM (+WWsf)

158 152 The notion that teachers are underpaid makes me grind my teeth.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (cSyAR)

They need to learn Latin: Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 06:04 PM (CdZ4i)

159 Thanks again for posting on this subject, bluebell.

People had mentioned Montessori - we liked the Montessori early childhood program a lot. Because they're really obsessed with the "method" there, and because Maria Montessori was from the before times, it seems pretty safe from the poisonous ideologies.

(For all I know MM was a socialist herself, but the curriculum is about normal stuff, not race/gender insanity, and they really do stick to it.)

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 22, 2021 06:04 PM (sGnvY)

160 Though I started flying through geometrical concepts.) So what would be the workaround there?
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (CdZ4i)
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Many homeschool groups have co-ops, and math is a popular subject. There are also online courses, and when the student is old enough, community college courses. I took my kids through Algebra 2 and then turned them over to the cc for pre-calc and calc and stats, which also got them college credits.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:04 PM (wyw4S)

161 Walter Freeman

CEOs and esp. HR are the source of the problem. Not line managers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 06:05 PM (u82oZ)

162 So what would be the workaround there?
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (CdZ4i)

That's what the curriculum is for. My kids learned "Math-U-See" from videos and workbooks (and plastic blocks). Two of them went all the way up to Pre-Calc (I got a D in algebra), but the curriculum goes even higher.

There is curriculum out there for literally every subject.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:05 PM (BJKQV)

163 But you're not wearing masks.

Posted by: Karen at November 22, 2021 06:05 PM (MIxfI)

164 True, NaCly Dog; better hushed tones of line management!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 06:06 PM (+WWsf)

165 152 The notion that teachers are underpaid makes me grind my teeth.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (cSyAR)

My state made the mistake of publishing teacher's salaries online. You can look up any teacher in the state. That shuts up people pretty quickly.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:07 PM (BJKQV)

166 When is Ace punching in again?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:07 PM (cSyAR)

167 Walter Freeman

You got it. By Jove, you got it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 06:07 PM (u82oZ)

168 But you're not wearing masks.
Posted by: Karen at November 22, 2021 06:05 PM (MIxfI)

And look at that spacing. No way that's 6 feet!

Posted by: Nother Karen at November 22, 2021 06:07 PM (WyqH5)

169 Since neither party cares about trillion dollar deficits, the Gope should (when they retake Congress) allocate billions for families that want to go to private schools.

But they won't.

They will however, continue to fund PP, NPR, NGOs, leftwing foundations and nonprofits.

Ask yourself why that is.

Posted by: I mean at November 22, 2021 06:08 PM (Odr5r)

170 Just think about what most (not all) publicly schooled kids today are missing out on. Classic literature, unadulterated history, fine arts not tainted by woke interpretation, math and science with emphasis on the fundamental building blocks - the list goes on. 'Tis a travesty.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 22, 2021 06:08 PM (Xrfse)

171 school time is the only time in their life they will be in a social setting where everyone is exactly the same age - there is no point in that
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It's also overkill! Get the kids in a couple of activities, and they will have plenty of time to figure out how to deal with other children. They don't need thirty hours a week of it.

Also, the kids at scouts or sports or church are better supervised and under better control than the kids in the government school.

And that's just the kids! You also have to account for the teachers. A solid minority of them are *also* sadistic bullies.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 22, 2021 06:09 PM (sGnvY)

172 16 The one thing that I've learned - and that is making us lean toward it, and we'll likely take the plunge in the next year (which I don't know how that will influence my run for school board) - is that what my kid could learn in 15 minutes and move on to the next topic is required to be taught for three weeks, and taught in sixteen different ways. And the kid is required to show that they can do the sixteen different WAYS, and not just come up with the correct answer when asked.

They're purposely slowing education down and creating make-work environments. F*ck that.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - FDA requests 2076 as release date for safety approval data on vax at November 22, 2021 05:21 PM (CM8Oa)

Don't lean - go all in. My 1st is in college, working on her forensic science major and music minor. My next 3 are all happy and healthy.

It was one of the best life choices I ever made. We have homeschooled from day 1...

Posted by: Nova local at November 22, 2021 06:09 PM (exHjb)

173 Now that I think about it, looks like those guys in picture up top may not be socially distancing correctly!!

Posted by: Nother Karen at November 22, 2021 06:09 PM (WyqH5)

174 25 Schools need to get back to teaching reading, writing and arithmetic.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 22, 2021 05:27 PM (haWye)

These are the things that matter the most. They're the reason why public schooling was instituted in the first place, and they're what the SATs are based on.

We homeschooled our four children. They all went to college. I'm not sure how "awkward" they are. It's my impression that home schooled kids are often markedly socially advanced over their peers, particularly when it comes to relating to adults. Interestingly, two chose to become public school teachers.

Having said that, not every parent is cut out for homeschooling. We saw some dismaying examples.

Posted by: Caliban at November 22, 2021 06:09 PM (HgGBT)

175 French toast & Maple syrup FTW!
Posted by: tbodie at November 22, 2021 06:03 PM (WyqH5)


Alton Brown regarding maple syrup on French toast:
https://youtu.be/AfF7dInNTXY

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 06:10 PM (wAnMi)

176 Brother Northernlurker

Next Tuesday, or as the whim strikes him.

I want ace to be laid more that linoleum floors in the entire Pentagon. Have we ever seen happy, sated ace post? Ever?


Hit the tip jar, folks. There are only so many women of negotiable virtue in NY, NY.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 06:10 PM (u82oZ)

177 170 Just think about what most (not all) publicly schooled kids today are missing out on. Classic literature, unadulterated history, fine arts not tainted by woke interpretation, math and science with emphasis on the fundamental building blocks - the list goes on. 'Tis a travesty.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 22, 2021 06:08 PM (Xrfse)

Art that actually looks like something. That is humbling in it's sheer magnitude of talent that it took to make.

Boy cool literature like Count of Monte Cristo- with fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, true love... Justice!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 22, 2021 06:11 PM (kBuGL)

178 WAUKESHA, Wis. (AP) -- The man suspected of plowing his SUV into a Christmas parade in suburban Milwaukee, killing at least five people and injuring 48, had left the scene of a domestic dispute just minutes before, Waukesha's police chief said Monday.

Police Chief Dan Thompson said there was is no evidence the crash on Sunday was a terrorist attack or that the suspect, Darrell Brooks Jr., knew anyone in the parade.

WTF?? I didn't know the 9/11 terrorists personally knew their victims.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 22, 2021 06:11 PM (UHVv4)

179

What a Monday.
Who would have thought?
No, blue Monday today,
Open Blogger Fiesta!

Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 06:12 PM (ET3Lq)

180 French toast & Maple syrup FTW!
Posted by: tbodie at November 22, 2021 06:03 PM (WyqH5)


I lied, there's an entire 3:43 not worth sitting through:

https://youtu.be/AfF7dInNTXY?t=343

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 06:12 PM (wAnMi)

181 A couple papers out on vaccines and pregnancy: spontaneous abortion is increased 2-4% in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy. Conclusion from science: "GET THE FUCKING JAB! Jab jab jab jabbity jab fucking a jab!"

There is no data on the effects on pregnancy after 20 weeks, the safety trial- and by that I mean "lie to thousands of women about the vaccines safety and force them to get the vaccine in pregnancy to see what it does to their baby" trials are ongoing.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 06:12 PM (UkBFs)

182 Can confirm all these points.

There's a great piece by Deborah Markus, "The Bitter Homeschooler" that was posted on a now defunct site, but the points of which I copied to my old blogspot site:

https://bitmaelstrom.blogspot.com/search?q=homeschool

"Stop talking about all the great childhood memories my kids won't get because they don't go to school, unless you want me to start asking about all the not-so-great"

Posted by: moviegique at November 22, 2021 06:12 PM (asXVI)

183
It's also overkill! Get the kids in a couple of activities, and they will have plenty of time to figure out how to deal with other children.

_________

Having them learn to deal with adults is important as well.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 06:13 PM (/U27+)

184 Don't lean - go all in. My 1st is in college, working on her forensic science major and music minor. My next 3 are all happy and healthy.

It was one of the best life choices I ever made. We have homeschooled from day 1...
Posted by: Nova local at November 22, 2021 06:09 PM (exHjb)

I have never met a homeschool parent who regretred it, have you?

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:13 PM (BJKQV)

185 I had dozens of teachers through almost twenty years in school. Most of them were unintelligent and/or incompetent. I would expect nearly every parent can do a better job.

Sort of like I was saying about supervisors last week. Most of them are terrible, but occasionally one is very good. (I still can't believe my thankfully former supervisor told me I was a great employee because I never ask him for help. Who says that??? Does he have ANY self-awareness?)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 06:14 PM (yr54B)

186 I like home schooling (from a distance, I like what I see; no kids here). But I think we should repeal child labor laws too. Imagine how easily toddler plumbers would be able to get at the pipes under the sink.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 22, 2021 06:14 PM (QU5/8)

187 When is Ace punching in again?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:07 PM (cSyAR)


To read/gloat over Jonah or Brandon's obituary - or, if he wins the PowerBall and stops by to say last one to leave turn out the lights.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 06:14 PM (wAnMi)

188 >>> according to a preschool/early education teacher I know, now when teaching reading, they are not allowed to use childrens books that are not educational. They cannot just be for fun. It is up to parents to show them the fun books at home, if they want. But the kids cannot learn them at school anymore.

I think I get why, but I also think of all the books from which I learned to love reading that were not purely educational, were just fun. Where the wild things are, the cat in the hat, etc. Some of the best books are just about the joy of bringing words to life for a young kid, and that is ok.

I suppose you could sneak in once fish two fish red fish blue fish still.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 06:14 PM (tfDou)

189 ...but then WE would have to be social. ...

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 05:33 PM (yr54B)
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Do you have a sister?

Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 06:14 PM (ET3Lq)

190 Thanks for this informative post bluebell

If I had been home schooled I'd likely been orphaned as well.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2021 06:15 PM (EZebt)

191 So what would be the workaround there?
Posted by: Cow Demon

Just make sure your better half has Math down pat!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 22, 2021 06:15 PM (mMQZc)

192 I see the COB auditions are going well.

I wonder who handles AoS HR?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2021 06:15 PM (FrSwm)

193 And in my state, and I think in some others, a homeschooled kid can take any class he wants at the local public school. So of you want your kid in band or choir or even football the kid can attend for just that one subject.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:15 PM (BJKQV)

194 Excellent post.

I hope this encourages folks to home school their utes.

Abolish government skools.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 22, 2021 06:16 PM (R/m4+)

195 I want ace to be laid more that linoleum floors in the entire Pentagon. Have we ever seen happy, sated ace post? Ever?

I wonder what a post by sated Ace would be like.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:16 PM (cSyAR)

196 I lied, there's an entire 3:43 not worth sitting through:

https://youtu.be/AfF7dInNTXY?t=343
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 06:12 PM (wAnMi)

Figured that out for myself, thank-you.

Posted by: Nother Karen at November 22, 2021 06:16 PM (mE8HP)

197
I can scarcely remember most of my teachers, or my schooling. Had some good ones in high school.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 06:17 PM (/U27+)

198 Braenyard, I do have a sister, but she is a social butterfly who constantly photographs everything she does and puts it on social media. We get along OK, but we have very, very, very little in common.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 06:17 PM (yr54B)

199 186 I like home schooling (from a distance, I like what I see; no kids here). But I think we should repeal child labor laws too. Imagine how easily toddler plumbers would be able to get at the pipes under the sink.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 22, 2021 06:14 PM (QU5/
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Child labor laws are a great deprivation to kids.

Twelve years old first job.
Also small neighborhood store gofer.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 06:17 PM (ET3Lq)

200 29Victor, class availability varies greatly by state as does athletic eligibility. Here in Virginia homeschooled kids are not allowed to play on public school teams.

There are some small private schools that allow homeschoolers to play, and there are homeschool teams as well.

And of course the rec league lets anyone play.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:18 PM (wyw4S)

201 8 to 3 education for todays kids is stupid. You dont need to show up for a shift to get work done.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:18 PM (yrol0)

202 suppose you could sneak in once fish two fish red fish blue fish still.
Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 06:14 PM (tfDou)

---

How does one interest a kid in reading without teaching that word use is fun? Though, beating love of reading out of a kid is probably useful, if the intent is to indoctrinate.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2021 06:19 PM (FrSwm)

203 Twelve years old first job.
Also small neighborhood store gofer.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 06:17 PM (ET3Lq)

Yup
My oldest was a barrista at a friend's coffee shop. Because we homeschooled he could work during the day.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:19 PM (BJKQV)

204 By and large, most of my teachers were pretty good, with more than a few I would rate as having been excellent. Of course, I attended K-12 shortly after the wheel was invented.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 22, 2021 06:19 PM (Xrfse)

205 New neighbor homeschools, she and her sibs were as well. I asked her how it works when it's time for college, grades and test, etc. She said that she, like her mom kept meticulous notes about the subjects taught and grades. When she and her sibs applied for college they didn't need any of it. Just the SAT, etc. What happens when the SAT, etc is no longer required? I'm guessing the homeschooled will excel. If they are allowed to that is.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 22, 2021 06:19 PM (2NHgQ)

206
I have never met a homeschool parent who regretred it, have you?
Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:13 PM (BJKQV)

One of the top decisions of my life.
And it's as hard or as easy as you want it to be.
As I tell a lot of people, you can do it for a day, a week, a month, a year, or the whole time. Schools have to take you back so you have nothing to lose...and everything to gain.
It's not always easy, and your house will probably never be totally clean, but it's very, very worth it in the end.


Posted by: Nova local at November 22, 2021 06:19 PM (exHjb)

207 Did not intend to wear that sock so long.

Posted by: tbodie at November 22, 2021 06:19 PM (mE8HP)

208 Texas is supposed to be a place where homeschoolers are allowed to play on public school teams. We are supposed to be able to take classes a la carte as well at the public school, per my understanding.

Good luck getting a school district to comply. What are you going to do, sue them?

My kids did play lacrosse because that was a club sport at the local high school, and they welcomed us with open arms.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 22, 2021 06:20 PM (z9npv)

209 It wasn't the homeschooled kids who were awkward in college, it was the kids from Jersey.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (EZebt)

210 Data also correlates low humidity to a surge in transmission. Possibly due to thinner mucus lining over the epithelial cells. Consider a humidifier for the house.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (UkBFs)

211 Europe is having another covid surge and lockdown . (when hasn't for nearly two years now?)


The German health minister Jens Spahn has warned by the end of winter everybody will be vaccinated, recovered or dead but immunity will be reached. We recommend getting vaccinated.


Sound like they are getting ever more tyrannical there. Are they planning on shooting the unvaxed? How German!

Posted by: Ripley at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (PTDkx)

212 200 29Victor, class availability varies greatly by state as does athletic eligibility. Here in Virginia homeschooled kids are not allowed to play on public school teams.

There are some small private schools that allow homeschoolers to play, and there are homeschool teams as well.

And of course the rec league lets anyone play.
Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:18 PM (wyw4S)

Appalachian Tim Salyer, 9140 Wagner Road, Bristol, VA 24202
Phone (1): 423-340-1324 Phone (2): 276-669-6427
Email: rossct@bvu.net

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (yrol0)

213 Hadrian I say it seems like a lifetime ago, barely remember any of it.

Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (2JoB8)

214 Yeah, in all seriousness, me and my brother always had some kind of seasonal side hustle going as little kids: leaf raking, snow shoveling etc. And when we were in our teens, we got real part-time jobs. I don't get why any kid wouldn't want a job. It brings a lot of freedom. But kids seem weirdly disinterested in freedom these days.

*shakes fist at cloud; gestures at lawn*

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (QU5/8)

215 Harrisonburg Roy Campbell, P.O. Box 324, Stanley, VA 22851
Phone (1): 434-953-7439 Email: campbell78@comcast.net

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (yrol0)

216 Here in Virginia homeschooled kids are not allowed to play on public school teams.

There are some small private schools that allow homeschoolers to play, and there are homeschool teams as well.

And of course the rec league lets anyone play.
Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:18 PM (wyw4S)

Yeah. My SIL homeschooled in Penn and they had pretty garbage HS laws. I'm in a deep-blue left-coast state but the HS laws here are amazing.

There's also the YMCA for sports - if you can find onw that isn't woke.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:22 PM (BJKQV)

217 VHSL Comm:

https://tinyurl.com/ejndzum

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:22 PM (yrol0)

218 It's also overkill! Get the kids in a couple of activities, and they will have plenty of time to figure out how to deal with other children. They don't need thirty hours a week of it.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 22, 2021 06:09 PM (sGnvY)

This 1000%. My kids had 3-5 "group" activities/week, and that time was more than enough to get them sufficient non-friend "group kid dynamic" activities that helped them learn all the skills the schools teach, in a fraction of the time and in way more fun and interesting ways.

Posted by: Nova local at November 22, 2021 06:22 PM (exHjb)

219 I have never met a homeschool parent who regretred it, have you?
Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 06:13 PM (BJKQV)

...

It's not the same thing but related--I don't know parents that have regretted it, but our kids are all in different places regarding whether they are happy they were homeschooled or not.

I think they will come around, but at the moment a couple are mad about it, and think life would have been different etc. Someday they will realize that life has ups and downs and homeschooling was not the source of all their disappointments.

BTW I am still a huge proponent of hs and we still have three at home being hs'd.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 22, 2021 06:23 PM (z9npv)

220 And neither will the Manhattan-shaking fiends who lurk behind every corner around here!

I'M ON TO YOU!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM

*casually drapes large napkin over shaker*

Who, me?

Posted by: The East German Judges at November 22, 2021 06:24 PM (rBtIz)

221 Let's talk about an alternative reality, one in which Kyle R had his car nearby on that fateful night, and finding himself in a life-threatening fight, flees (I'm using this word deliberately), jumps into his car back in an alley, and with his pulse rate close to 220, drives out onto the main drag looking for a getaway.

His adrenaline blinding him, he experiences the big WHOOMP you get when you encounter an obstacle (ever hit a 175-pound deer at speed?). Does he stop? Or is he so crazy and so fear-blinded that he goes for another WHOOMP?

At what point do the WHOOMPS add up before you decide to stop?

Or do you stop at all?

I wanna be on that jury.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 22, 2021 06:24 PM (KiBMU)

222 My God @CapitolPolice were beating Rosanne Boyland and they told us all she died of a drug overdose. They wont even let her family have access to complete autopsy.

It is worse than you think!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:25 PM (yrol0)

223 Europe is having another covid surge and lockdown . (when hasn't for nearly two years now?)
Posted by: Ripley at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (PTDkx)


I just saw a tweet from somebody from Sweden posting the interior of a shopping mall. No masks, kids lined up to sit on Santa's lap, place was packed. For some reason, they've not had a "spike" and are practically covid free. Gee, maybe there's something to that whole herd/exposure immunity thing that twatter/fb/goolag keep censoring? It used to be sort of a thing for about a century all the way up until 2020.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 06:25 PM (wAnMi)

224 What happens when the SAT, etc is no longer required? I'm guessing the homeschooled will excel. If they are allowed to that is.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 22, 2021 06:19 PM (2NHgQ)

...

Getting into college is largely dependent upon the school. The University of Texas makes it very difficult. Texas A&M made it relatively easy though we had a few bumps there too. But we are 2 for 2 kids applying to TAMU.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 22, 2021 06:26 PM (z9npv)

225 I was homeschooled since about 2nd grade.

In retrospect, the triggering event was when I brought home a 'science' textbook that said we were going to run out of fossil fuels for electricity by ~1984. This was in 1992.

Propaganda has been in our schools under the guise of 'science' for a LONG FUCKING TIME

Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 22, 2021 06:26 PM (Y7Ajm)

226 Howdy morons! Can any suggest a path to partnering with any small group or pod or coop (whatever jargon) where I could teach some math to middle or high schoolers? I'm in a suburban environment and not a fit for regulating a full class (smartphone apathy drives me ape). Background check is no problem. Patience and tutoring is a fit. Didn't know how to approach a group to market. Thanks!

Posted by: TV at November 22, 2021 06:27 PM (vGzJ8)

227 My God @CapitolPolice were beating Rosanne Boyland and they told us all she died of a drug overdose. They wont even let her family have access to complete autopsy.

Its like the stuff that used to happen to black people in the 1940s. "He tripped and fell down some stairs yuk yuk"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2021 06:27 PM (KZzsI)

228 My God @CapitolPolice were beating Rosanne Boyland and they told us all she died of a drug overdose. They wont even let her family have access to complete autopsy.

It is worse than you think!!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:25 PM (yrol0)


Yup, another reason they won't allow any footage to get out. Supposedly what went on in that tunnel was beyond horrific. Fucking Gestapo having at some poor woman who couldn't defend herself.

They're not going to like being on the receiving end. It's coming. And they can sense it. Next they'll be trying to say the drugs induced her to beat herself in the face with a baton until she lost her teeth and went blind.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 22, 2021 06:28 PM (wAnMi)

229 biotch slap herd round the world

Photo ID for vax stats!

https://tinyurl.com/23cfca7t

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:28 PM (yrol0)

230 >>The notion that teachers are underpaid makes me grind my teeth.


Camp Counselors are underpaid.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2021 06:28 PM (mata5)

231 One thing I want to mention about why my kids have loved homeschooling - every year, I tried to make sure they were doing or learning something they wanted.

One year, that involved me running a monthly field trip group for extra homeschoolers (who got to enjoy all my work) to all the area museums/attractions.
One year, that was starting a movie club (again, that I ran and other homeschoolers enjoyed).
One year, that was taking a class all year in stage combat.
One year, it was doing a unit study on cats and dogs (with trips to the animal shelter and the K9 unit).
One year, it was finding a local Japanese tutor so we could study HS Japanese...etc, etc...
My kids knew that I tailored the main subjects (Math and Language Arts were always happening), but they had a lot of say in what they could learn, when, and how...and they really enjoyed the process...

Posted by: Nova local at November 22, 2021 06:29 PM (exHjb)

232 video of beating

https://tinyurl.com/e8wnnnhh

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:29 PM (yrol0)

233 Yay, bluebell!

Posted by: Weasel at November 22, 2021 06:29 PM (0IeYL)

234 Some colleges have specific information on their admissions webpages for homeschoolers. For instance, they may say we like to see homeschoolers have courses in this and that, and take x number of years of foreign language, and take certain SAT subject tests, although it seems that of this year they discontinued those.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:30 PM (wyw4S)

235 I homeschooled. I wasn't good at it. I still think that it was probably best for my kids because I don't know and can't know if my raging ADD would have made classroom education for the kids just as difficult or even moreso. Elementary with kids in school seems like just as much of a full time job as homeschooling them and I'd have been just as ADD.

They did all turn out well enough. They'd have been better off with some structure, though. But we also moved several times so if we'd have been with the first homeschool group we were in and without the disruption, I might not have had as much trouble.

And I say this mostly to say, it was STILL a good idea and I'm not sorry we did.

Posted by: Synova at November 22, 2021 06:30 PM (BD/yx)

236 230 >>The notion that teachers are underpaid makes me grind my teeth.


Camp Counselors are underpaid.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2021 06:28 PM (mata5)

Ann Coulter (kind of a worthless cunt) did this about 20 years ago but they make more than a licensed Electrician by hour.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:30 PM (yrol0)

237 The CBD Manhattan:

1 ounce dry vermouth
1 ounce rye whiskey
2 teaspoons pure maple syrup (Grade B is best)
Dash of angostura bitters
Lemon twist and bourbon-soaked cherry, for garnish

Directions
Fill a shaker with ice; add vermouth, whiskey, maple syrup, and bitters. Shake vigorously until frosty and cold on outside, 30 seconds. Strain over ice; garnish with lemon twist and cherry.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 22, 2021 06:30 PM (a3Q+t)

238 The account by a another innocent rally participant is absolutely horrifying. Not surprised they are hiding the autopsy.

Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2021 06:31 PM (2JoB8)

239 234 Some colleges have specific information on their admissions webpages for homeschoolers. For instance, they may say we like to see homeschoolers have courses in this and that, and take x number of years of foreign language, and take certain SAT subject tests, although it seems that of this year they discontinued those.
Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:30 PM (wyw4S)

All Cal schools outlawed SAT.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:31 PM (yrol0)

240 >>>There are some small private schools that allow homeschoolers to play, and there are homeschool teams as well.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 22, 2021 06:21 PM (yrol0)
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You know those would be good games.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 06:31 PM (ET3Lq)

241 Data also correlates low humidity to a surge in transmission.

**

I'm sticking with increased testing rates being the main driver.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at November 22, 2021 06:32 PM (BZjG5)

242 Remember when Australia started building Quarantine Camps? People on the right noticed and started calling it out. People on the left called us idiots and said those were just for temporarily quarantining people as they arrived in country.

Turns out, the people on the right were correct. They are now shipping Covid positive AND "close contacts" to their super happy fun camps.

https://bit.ly/3kW4jN6

Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2021 06:33 PM (sG4Hj)

243 If effective schooling can be accomplished at home, what is the value-added of a federal Department of Education?

Posted by: Occasional Commenter at November 22, 2021 06:33 PM (GXBIW)

244 Mrs. Peel, thanks.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 06:33 PM (ET3Lq)

245 nood
humour

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 22, 2021 06:34 PM (UHVv4)

246 The notion that teachers are underpaid makes me grind my teeth.

**

Median individual teacher salary = median household non-teacher income.

That's not a joke.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at November 22, 2021 06:34 PM (BZjG5)

247 Howdy morons! Can any suggest a path to partnering with any small group or pod or coop (whatever jargon) where I could teach some math to middle or high schoolers? I'm in a suburban environment and not a fit for regulating a full class (smartphone apathy drives me ape). Background check is no problem. Patience and tutoring is a fit. Didn't know how to approach a group to market. Thanks!
Posted by: TV at November 22, 2021 06:27 PM (vGzJ
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Hi TV! I'm sure there are homeschooled kids who could benefit from your expertise. The easiest way would be to ask any homeschoolers you know. If you don't know any, maybe do a search on local homeschool groups in your area - they will usually have an email address for contact purposes and you can go from there.

If you belong to a church you might ask people there if they know any homeschoolers, too. There may be an electronic newsletter for homeschoolers in your area that posts classes and teacher openings. Good luck, and thank you for wanting to teach these kids!

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:34 PM (wyw4S)

248 My SIL home schools her kids, but it's with a group of moms. Each of them teaches a different subject and it works out well.
My SIL teaches chemistry and algebra in the homeschool group. She's a chemical engineer and she quit her job to do this.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 22, 2021 06:35 PM (NpAcC)

249 I homeschooled 4 kids all the way through. One is in the US Navy, one is a high school mathematics teacher at a private school, one is at University studying Civil Engineering and one is at University studying Hotel/Restaurant Management.

Your homeschool kids do not have to be socially awkward......... put them in outside activities. Mine did martial arts, swimming lessons, church activities, painting classes, pottery, etc. And sleepovers with the kids at church. And two weeks of summer camp at the ocean.

We also did off-season vacations including two trips to Disney World (in late Sept and January) and a car-trip across the country and back in a mini-van......we were already close, but spending 24 days in a mini-van together really does cement-bond an already well-bonded family!

Posted by: Monica at November 22, 2021 06:35 PM (mViXK)

250 Homeschooling brings a family together like nothing else.

It can. In situations like mine it can be devastating and cause rifts than never heal. However I think that's an outlier and freak thing that happened to me as per my typical luck.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 22, 2021 06:36 PM (II3Gr)

251 Camp Counselors are underpaid.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2021 06:28 PM (mata5)



But they score all the tail.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 22, 2021 06:37 PM (yQpMk)

252 When the Mizzou protests happened a few years ago, executives would quietly say they'd never hire that generation.

The common phrase was "Why pollute our company culture with that cancer."



Posted by: Regular joe at November 22, 2021 06:37 PM (L9P9s)

253 We also did off-season vacations including two trips to Disney World (in late Sept and January) and a car-trip across the country and back in a mini-van......we were already close, but spending 24 days in a mini-van together really does cement-bond an already well-bonded family!
Posted by: Monica at November 22, 2021 06:35 PM (mViXK)
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Tune in for part 2, hopefully tomorrow, where I talk about this and more! Thanks for joining in. I love seeing new nics in these homeschool posts. I know there are a lot of us out there.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2021 06:37 PM (wyw4S)

254 Yeah, I thought so too, until I brought up Kyle Rittenhouse and she lost her mind.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return

I've learned not to have these conversations with my (grown) children. I like them as well as love them, and I know I'm not going to change their minds, so I stick to topics that are politically neutral. Unless they bring it up, and then all bets are off.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2021 06:39 PM (OX9vb)

255 We also did off-season vacations including two trips to Disney World (in late Sept and January) and a car-trip across the country and back in a mini-van......we were already close, but spending 24 days in a mini-van together really does cement-bond an already well-bonded family!
Posted by: Monica at November 22, 2021 06:35 PM (mViXK)

Til my DD started college, Labor Day week was our favorite vacation week...now we have to move it to pre-Memorial Day week...

Posted by: Nova local at November 22, 2021 06:40 PM (exHjb)

256 I wonder who handles AoS HR?
Posted by: Blake

Slav HR and Customer Service

Posted by: Miklosov Miklosevitch at November 22, 2021 06:41 PM (QzkSJ)

257 252 When the Mizzou protests happened a few years ago, executives would quietly say they'd never hire that generation.

The common phrase was "Why pollute our company culture with that cancer."

Posted by: Regular joe at November 22, 2021 06:37 PM (L9P9s)

Nope. Those execs will cheerfully hire that generation so long as they do lots of networking and know lots of people.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 06:45 PM (CdZ4i)

258 21 At this point in time, letting your children go to a 'normal' public school is tantamount to child abuse.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 22, 2021 05:24 PM (5kI0z)

This! 100%

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at November 22, 2021 06:48 PM (hlxe7)

259 Synova--

I point out (more and more as the years go by) that the value in homeschooling was not in the quality of the education, but in the lack of indoctrination.

I didn't actually see it coming but I've discovered my kids are different as adults because they just don't fear anything.

Posted by: moviegique at November 22, 2021 06:49 PM (asXVI)

260 Bluebell, or other homeschooling parents, what serious advice would you give young parents considering this who lack confidence?

Is there.like mini training or something?
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 05:31 PM (YZG/i)

OK, here's my go at that (homeschooled until my son was 16, when he insisted - to his regret - on going to public school)...

First, contact the Homeschool Legal Defense Association. They exist to defend homeschoolers in the legal realm, but they will happily put you in touch with your state or regional homeschool association(s). This way you have a place to start with contacts.

Second, start searching online for co-ops. These exist in big and small form, depending on your area. They often have retired teachers organizing them and teaching at them, but not always. There may be one based on music or the arts (very common) but it will still have the value of being a bunch of fellow homeschoolers.
/tbc

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 06:56 PM (Gcsm/)

261 continued...

Third, go to a convention. They might not have them in your area, and (of course) are once a year, so this isn't your first step. But, you will find curricula, coaching, legal workshops, inspirational talks, and LOTS of other people just like you (though often totally different) who are willing to talk or listen or give you their opinion of what works for them.

You can talk to the publishers of curricula and other books. (That's how we got into Right Start Math. We spent a half hour talking to the writer of it.) You can even walk between stalls and compare the different books. You can find planner systems. You can find the Mennonites selling all kinds of foodstuff basics for making your own bread and all sorts of things. (Hey, yeast is a whole biology study unto itself! And edible!)

So, call HSLDA, find some co-ops, and hie thee to a convention!

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:00 PM (Gcsm/)

262 How do taxes work if you home school, is that written off as an education expense?
Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 05:49 PM (tfDou)


Not generally, though your state might allow it. There's usually some sneaky bit in the law about only applying to those enrolled in college, or being over 18. But do ask the question! It's part of what sets the homeschooler apart.

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:01 PM (Gcsm/)

263 Why do we not do this for K-12 schools?

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (tfDou)

They did. And Loudon County schools just lied about it to keep their numbers 0.

(And, yeah, I know, willowed. But I'm a "completeness is important" kinda guy.)

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:06 PM (Gcsm/)

264 For the money we pay, why aren't ALL the teachers amazing and top-notch?
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 05:54 PM (CdZ4i)

ONE reason (among others) is that teachers often don't see a lot of that pay increase. All that extra money in your bond initiative went to pay for more administrators.

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:07 PM (Gcsm/)

265 Stephen Hayes
Jonah Goldberg

That's two! Your welcome.

Posted by: Mean Tweets at November 22, 2021 07:07 PM (BOJAx)

266 I'm absorbed in other projects for now, and I have no kids ... BUT I like this subject and admire those that homeschooled. ... My nephew (family doctor, as was his dad) homeschools their four daughters, BUT I was dismayed that their (two professor parents) mother declared on FB they were a Biden Family, despite her acknowledged warnings from their other homeschooler friends ... are a "Biden Family". (Good grief ... she loves the mafia and grifters?)

Still, I bet their kids avoided some of the more pernicious aspects of Public Skool Indoctrination. But idk, so many attacks on "our" children today ... Thanks for your posts.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 22, 2021 07:09 PM (Cus5s)

267 Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 05:58 PM (BJKQV)

*loud applause*

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:09 PM (Gcsm/)

268 So what would be the workaround there?
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 22, 2021 06:02 PM (CdZ4i)

Curricula, co-ops, online schooling systems.
In that order.

If you pick a curriculum because it helps you actually get it, then you get to learn right along with (or just ahead of) your kid. If that's not doable, find a co-op with a math class - lots of retired math teachers out there willing to teach for a few bucks and not having to put up with administrators. Then you can always pick an online curriculum that knows what it's doing, and let them grade and track the kid's progress. (And you still might learn right along with the kid.)

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:14 PM (Gcsm/)

269 I wonder what a post by sated Ace would be like.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at November 22, 2021 06:16 PM (cSyAR)

I don't know, but I know it would be titled "GAINZZZZ!!"

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:21 PM (Gcsm/)

270 And I say this mostly to say, it was STILL a good idea and I'm not sorry we did.
Posted by: Synova at November 22, 2021 06:30 PM (BD/yx)

*more loud applause*

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:52 PM (Gcsm/)

271 WAUKESHA, Wis. (AP) -- The man suspected of plowing his SUV into a Christmas parade in suburban Milwaukee, killing at least five people and injuring 48, had left the scene of a domestic dispute just minutes before, Waukesha's police chief said Monday.

Police Chief Dan Thompson said there was is no evidence the crash on Sunday was a terrorist attack or that the suspect, Darrell Brooks Jr., knew anyone in the parade.

WTF?? I didn't know the 9/11 terrorists personally knew their victims.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 22, 2021 06:11 PM (UHVv4)

The investigation is supposed to establish a terrorist motive, you don't start with it as a premise.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2021 07:54 PM (eoQWY)

272 the lack of indoctrination.

Posted by: moviegique at November 22, 2021 06:49 PM (asXVI)

I am going to disagree. You *did* indoctrinate them. But you did it with *your* values and *your* ideals and *your* principles. And, because they saw them in action all the time and they weren't warped by outsiders, they learned there might be something to it all.

You done good.

Posted by: GWB at November 22, 2021 07:57 PM (Gcsm/)

273 We homeschooled our kids, then they attended an early college program for high school. One is a programmer and the other is a dietician. Both walked straight into jobs after college graduation. It worked for us. It takes hard work and commitment.

One of the best pieces of advice we received when we began homeschooling was that we wouldn't feel competent or at peace for about three years. They were right, but we kept at it and it worked. Finding a curriculum that's a good fit is essential.

Posted by: windbag at November 22, 2021 08:39 PM (h2MN9)

274 So I was a college-educated homeschool mom with 100% support from my college-educated husband so I wasn't intimidated, but a lot of mom's don't have mathy-sciencey college degrees and they lack confidence. The one thing I wish I had done was to use my local community college more for math and science classes...... they do a great job at bonehead math, statistics, algebra, geometry, trig, and even calculus and basic biology and chemistry that works great for high-schoolers and earns them college credit. And I just powered through, when I didn't need to.

Posted by: Monica at November 22, 2021 09:05 PM (mViXK)

275 When homeschooling, a lot of the "membership" deals offered to families suddenly make immense sense. For about the price of two Saturday admission to the zoo, for instance, you get a year-long pass. Free parking, week day afternoons when it's not crowded, come and see ONE exhibit, and plan to come back. Take a picnic lunch and spend some time watching just the lemurs leap. Do the "members only" events if you want.

Same thing for a museum. Instead of cramming everything into a long long day, come and go. Whenever you like.

Some memberships in one thing -- a Dallas zoo -- may get reciprocal admission at another -- the aquarium in San Antonio.

Family "fun" (even the educational kind) can be cheaper by buying in bulk.

Posted by: Pouncer at November 22, 2021 09:19 PM (3xJCY)

276 the thing they all hated the most.... was probably Wordly-Wise Vocabulary..... they all did it all the way through 12th grade, got them great grades on the SAT, I am amazed at their vocablulalry, to this day. We have very interesting discussions at the dinner table now that they are all in their 20's. The class I think was the most impactful, honestly, was rote memorization of poetry, Shakespeare and catechism. They also memorized on their own great chunks of LOTR, Star Wars, music, Elf, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and Zoolander and Forest Gump.

Posted by: Monica at November 22, 2021 09:21 PM (mViXK)

277 I loved being homeschooled. I hate homeschooling. It's frustrating and mind numbing. It makes me want to lock my bedroom door and cry in my closet for hours.
It makes me hate my kids.
I'm on my second attempt, since I have no alternatives at all. During the 2019/20 school year I was fighting with my 7yr old's teacher who had decided that if she couldn't teach my stubborn daughter, no one was allowed to. She refused to consider my child moving to another classroom, nor my mother in law (an experienced home teacher and helper) coming in to keep my daughter in line.
So it was actually a relief to have kids sent home for rest of the year and get all of them back into the local co-op.
It's so much better for them, for all the reasons given, but I really wish people wouldn't say "Everyone can homeschool". Sure most people can, at this point you could do absolutely nothing and still be a massive improvement on the public schools. I suppose I'm moderately successful, too, but it's so miserable.
I'm so tired of it. I wish I had something local that was a mix, but they don't exist.

Posted by: Search at November 22, 2021 10:06 PM (4H5AC)

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