Rittenhouse Trial: Littlefinger Demands to Know Why Rittenhouse Didn't Let a Man Who Threatened to Kill Him Twice Take His Gun From Him

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You gotta watch, go back a bit, to after he has Rittenhouse watch the drone video on the big tv. This is amazing.

Littlefinger is arguing with Rittenhouse is arguing that Kyle was the aggressor and somehow provoked Rosenbaum into chasing him by pointing the gun at him after Rosenbaum chased him and threw an unknown object at him. Then he insisted that Rittenhouse had no reason to shoot Rosenbaum even after Rosenbaum started pulling his gun away from him.

Remember, this is after Rosenbaum told him twice that he would murder him.

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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec


Kyle: I attempted to deter Mr Rosenbaum. But he didn't stop chasing me. He was going to take my gun and kill me. I wanted him to stop. I didn't want to have to kill Mr Rosenbaum


Law of Self Defense
@LawSelfDefense

You point your AR at someone else, that may make them feel they are about to be killed by you.

Rosenbaum was chasing me, he said he would kill me if he got me alone, I was alone, I pointed it at him, he continued to chase me.

Law of Self Defense
@LawSelfDefense

Binger: Rosenbaum never said anything about grabbing your gun?

No, but he actually tried to take it.

Binger: You assumed he was going to take your gun.

If he had taken by gun he would have killed me.

Binger: You pointed it at him.

Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground, because "he doesn't have a weapon." He says he only used "one foot."

He is now arguing that Grosskreutz only had a handgun and Kyle had an AR-15 and therefore had nothing to fear so he should have let Grosskreutz point the handgun at him.

This series of questions:

Rosenbaum only chased you and tried to take your gun.

The guy who kicked you only stomped you in your face.

Huber only hit you in the head with a skateboard used as a club.

And now: Grosskreutz only pointed a handgun at you.

You had an AR-15 and should have just absorbed all these attacks because it is the only Real Weapon at the scene.

Posted by: Ace at 04:45 PM




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1 He's a piece of shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 04:46 PM (kBuGL)

2 I just called the others, just wanted to make that comment tops.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 04:47 PM (kBuGL)

3 not sponge, again

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 04:47 PM (LvTSG)

4 Once on that threat would have been more than enough for me. Yep.

Posted by: Eromero at November 10, 2021 04:47 PM (0OP+5)

5 Is the "prosecution" STILL beating up on that kid?

Posted by: johnd01 at November 10, 2021 04:48 PM (uVQvU)

6 yeah, two questions by binger.

1. if you point a gun the person will become enraged.

2. but you pointed at him to stop him

question 1 is irrelevant to the situation, quesiton 2 is the proof of self defense.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 04:48 PM (ZZK0E)

7 He's a piece of shit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


T'ain't one of ours ...

Posted by: Mr. Hanky at November 10, 2021 04:48 PM (okV1R)

8 not sponge, again
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 04:47 PM (LvTSG)


Where has Sponge been lately, anyway?

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 10, 2021 04:48 PM (Ez6QX)

9 binger keeps pushing point 1 which is pinting the gun enraged rsenbaum

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 04:48 PM (ZZK0E)

10 No doubt about it, he's a masterpiece.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 10, 2021 04:48 PM (XvPQV)

11 Checking back in after a break... this is the sort of cross exam that a stupid attorney thinks is scoring points, when in reality any juror who is still paying attention knows that it's pandering and condescending.

Posted by: PabloD at November 10, 2021 04:48 PM (YzElk)

12 Smacks of desperation.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 10, 2021 04:49 PM (bVYXr)

13 I feel so much better now.

Posted by: Mike Nifong at November 10, 2021 04:49 PM (QzkSJ)

14 Rittenhouse Trial: Littlefinger Demands to Know Why Rittenhouse Didn't Let a Man Who Threatened to Kill Him Twice Take His Gun From Him
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I'm not watching and can't, so I will take this at face value. Why on earth should you? Who the hell does this fucker think he is?

Generally, in terms of the overall philosophy, the threat itself is immaterial. If someone wants to take a weapon from you, that person wants the ability to hurt you without risking himself in the process. Period. No other explanation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2021 04:49 PM (DU+/6)

15 Oy vey. It's displays like this that make me ashamed of my profession.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (II3Gr)

16 Rittenhouse Trial: Littlefinger Demands to Know Why Rittenhouse Didn't Let a Man Who Threatened to Kill Him Twice Take His Gun From Him
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How would Binger react if Rittenhouse threatened to kill HIM?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (QxGJc)

17 Okay I audibly laughed at Littlefinger. An lol if you will.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (0l4p/)

18 When the fat DA guy
Says you should've just died
That's a Nifong

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (II3Gr)

19 15 Oy vey. It's displays like this that make me ashamed of my profession.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (II3Gr)

==========

Don't you highlight legal documents in a basement all day?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (LvTSG)

20 Let's face it: Rittenhouse DSAF.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 04:51 PM (QxGJc)

21
Why isn't Kyle saying he was on His Back while he shot his attackers??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 04:51 PM (OAYzD)

22
Don't you highlight legal documents in a basement all day?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (LvTSG)

That's what first-year associates and discovery review contractors get to do.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021 04:51 PM (II3Gr)

23 Binger is trying to say that because Kyle pointed his gun at a guy who said he was going to kill Kyle that this made the I'm going to kill you guy think that HE was going to get killed so HE has the self defense argument from you, you monster!

Posted by: blaster at November 10, 2021 04:51 PM (mbFEM)

24 If I had a big gun and had just put someone down and the crowd did not disburse but shouted GET HIM it would be very frightening. It's time to run.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 10, 2021 04:51 PM (MGjUO)

25 Sling Theory.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (UHVv4)

26 "Why didn't you let him murder you?"

//StankFinger

Posted by: sven at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (Lzpvj)

27 This prosecutor is our type of guy. Quick, get his number so we can offer him a position in our organization.

Posted by: DOJ at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (KTaZ8)

28 oh binger forgot to ask kyle about that first gunshot.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (ZZK0E)

29 Binger: But after you shot, you were able to go that way?

Yes, they left after gunshots.

Binger: First shot by you caused Rosenbaum to fall to ground? You fired three more shots after that?

I continued to fire until he was no longer a threat.

****

17 years old and this kid already understands more about guns than most adults.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (KGCjR)

30 22
Don't you highlight legal documents in a basement all day?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (LvTSG)

That's what first-year associates and discovery review contractors get to do.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021 04:51 PM (II3Gr)

==========

Wait...it's not a sexy legal thriller from day 1?

I've been lied to.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (LvTSG)

31 That's what first-year associates and discovery review contractors get to do.
Posted by: Insomniac

You THINK that's what they're doing down there

Posted by: Miklos has heard stories at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (QzkSJ)

32 The "Justice" system.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 10, 2021 04:53 PM (SK+VG)

33 15 Oy vey. It's displays like this that make me ashamed of my profession.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (II3Gr)

"First thing we do, is...."

Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 04:53 PM (RYc1G)

34 I was convinced that all of lawyering was The Firm, but sexier.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 04:53 PM (LvTSG)

35 Binger is acting out his Karen fantasies but it ain't law.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 04:53 PM (9hXN1)

36 27: Oof, the 'too painfully true to laugh' joke.

Posted by: PaleRider, cheerful clinger at November 10, 2021 04:54 PM (3cGpq)

37 That's what first-year associates and discovery review contractors get to do.
Posted by: Insomniac

You THINK that's what they're doing down there
Posted by: Miklos has heard stories at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (QzkSJ)
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Jeffrey Toobin coughs and looks ill at ease.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 04:54 PM (QxGJc)

38 I want to cover my eyes until this is over but I can't seem to look away.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 04:54 PM (45fpk)

39 What's Bingers prosecution record?

If this is an example of his career, he seems pretty piss-poor at it.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (KGCjR)

40 ya know, this coulda been over now

is the defense cousul related to the 13 rinos in the house that voted with pelosi ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (us2H3)

41 Little Binger is fucking insufferable.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (Oq/TM)

42 Fuck Walmart.

I'm there for motor oil, but see 6 boxes of 300-ct 22 LR ammo, $41 a box.

Unable to know if this is a good price, I go to AmmoMan, my go-to site for this, and WalMart must have ammo sites blocked if you're on their wifi.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (KiBMU)

43 Back watching OAN between making some hotdogs and onions

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (2JoB8)

44 Binger: First shot by you caused Rosenbaum to fall to ground? You fired three more shots after that?

____________

in .76 seconds

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (M+Lyo)

45 I knew some good trial lawyers, and they always read and highlighted their own discovery material, no matter how voluminous.

They didn't trust anybody else.

Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 04:56 PM (AwPyG)

46 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 10, 2021 04:56 PM (arJlL)

47 31 That's what first-year associates and discovery review contractors get to do.
Posted by: Insomniac

You THINK that's what they're doing down there

Posted by: Miklos has heard stories at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM
'Mr. Eromero, may I review your briefs?'

Posted by: Eromero at November 10, 2021 04:56 PM (0OP+5)

48 Unable to know if this is a good price, I go to AmmoMan, my go-to site for this, and WalMart must have ammo sites blocked if you're on their wifi.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (KiBMU)

That's not great, but if you want it......

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (M+Lyo)

49 Unable to know if this is a good price, I go to AmmoMan, my go-to site for this, and WalMart must have ammo sites blocked if you're on their wifi.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (KiBMU)


14ish cents a round. A little pricy you can find it a t 10 cents now.

Posted by: blaster at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (mbFEM)

50 Kyle's been on the stand all day. That's a lot of pressure.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (45fpk)

51 This prosecutor is our type of guy. Quick, get his number so we can offer him a position in our organization.

Posted by: DOJ at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (KTaZ

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Please, we saw him first!

Posted by: FBI at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (ZwxDF)

52 33 15 Oy vey. It's displays like this that make me ashamed of my profession.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (II3Gr)

"First thing we do, is...."
Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 04:53 PM (RYc1G)

I think Defense Attorney Richards has done a brilliant job today, He's out-thought his competition at every juncture.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (trdmm)

53 Kyle Rittenhouse must be exhausted. When do they end this for the day?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (YK8CE)

54 3 shots with a Brown Bess in 72 seconds is doable

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (2JoB8)

55 I knew some good trial lawyers, and they always read and highlighted their own discovery material, no matter how voluminous.

They didn't trust anybody else.
Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 04:56 PM (AwPyG)

That and more billable hours at a higher rate too than the monkeys flinging poo in the basement.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (KTaZ8)

56 41 Little Binger is fucking insufferable.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (Oq/TM)

yes, he is

but he' arguing, which means he has a chance

a chance the inane defense gave him

stoopid fuckers

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (us2H3)

57 Binger, did I mention the lake of eternal fire?

Posted by: Braenyard at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (MGjUO)

58 50 Kyle's been on the stand all day. That's a lot of pressure.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (45fpk)

And now late in the day, all this badgering.

Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (RYc1G)

59 42 Mr Gaga, that is roughly 14-15 cents per round. Okay price, not great if it is something like Thunderbolt. Good price if CCI plated.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (9hXN1)

60 42 Fuck Walmart.

I'm there for motor oil, but see 6 boxes of 300-ct 22 LR ammo, $41 a box.

Unable to know if this is a good price, I go to AmmoMan, my go-to site for this, and WalMart must have ammo sites blocked if you're on their wifi.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM
Around .16 per round out the door?

Posted by: Eromero at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (0OP+5)

61 Littlefinger's real family name was littledick. We changed it a Ellis Island.

Posted by: Littlefinger's Ancestors at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (gmo/4)

62 Kyle Rittenhouse must be exhausted. When do they end this for the day?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (YK8CE)


I hope by 4:30. After that we pretty much plunge into darkness for tonight's festivities.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (45fpk)

63 stoopid fuckers
Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 04:58 PM (us2H3)

EXACTLY!!!! The fucking Defense is asleep right now.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (Oq/TM)

64 42 Fuck Walmart.

I'm there for motor oil, but see 6 boxes of 300-ct 22 LR ammo, $41 a box.

Unable to know if this is a good price, I go to AmmoMan, my go-to site for this, and WalMart must have ammo sites blocked if you're on their wifi.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 10, 2021 04:55 PM (KiBMU)


It's probably an OK-ish price. I recently saw CCI MiniMags for $12 / 100 and bought a few.
. . . and yes, Wal*Mart sucks.

Posted by: a.moron at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (F6Xpw)

65 yeah, two questions by binger.

1. if you point a gun the person will become enraged.

2. but you pointed at him to stop him

question 1 is irrelevant to the situation, quesiton 2 is the proof of self defense.
Posted by: Tim Riggins


Now, apply that principle to Alec Baldwin.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (vcOmj)

66 50 Kyle's been on the stand all day. That's a lot of pressure.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (45fpk)

too much for a child

but what the fuck, it's no skin off the defense's ass

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (us2H3)

67 27 This prosecutor is our type of guy. Quick, get his number so we can offer him a position in our organization.
Posted by: DOJ at November 10, 2021 04:52 PM (KTaZ

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No, we called dibs!

Posted by: Mitch 'Call Me Senator!' McConnell at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (WgWHG)

68 Kyle needs to repeatedly say, "He said he was going to kill me!" Also emphasize how insane and erratic Rosenbaum appeared. (Yelling the n-word at a white guy while surrounded by blacks isn't a hallmark of sanity.)

Posted by: pookysgirl lives with the crazy at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (XKZwp)

69 Littlefinger is Gods gift to defense attorneys.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (qZdIZ)

70 Hey, Binger, if someone says he's going to kill you, you tend to pay attention to him, and keep an eye out for him henceforth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (QxGJc)

71 No criticism intended, but I would have said that Rittenhouse was out there carrying a rifle primarily because he hoped to deter people from looting and burning. (Like the guys who will stand in a mini-mall parking lot holding a rifle when there's potential looting happening.)

In his self-defense defense, he's saying that he brought it for personal protection. But I wonder how much it would have hurt his case to say honestly that he hoped to "keep the peace" or something like that.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (sGnvY)

72 And now late in the day, all this badgering.
Posted by: m


Well, Wisconsin is, after all, the Badger state. Believe me now and hear me later....everybody up there BADGERS you about something.

Cheeseheads.....sheesh.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (vcOmj)

73 What gets glossed over in all this testimony is each of the people who pursued Rittenhouse, some for multiple blocks, had every opportunity to retreat from a person is visibly armed. The three people who got shot didn't do that. If fact the keep coming at him while Kyle was trying to flee or was flat on his back. These people had plenty of opportunity to evaluate the risk to them if they continued charging. None of the did what a reasonable person in fear of their life would do: run like the wind away from the treat. Instead the first tried to tackle and take KR's weapon, with the second trying to crush in KR's skull with a skateboard, and the third drawing down a loaded pistol on KR from a distance easily measured in inches.

Posted by: LostInSpace at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (ESLBo)

74
EXACTLY!!!! The fucking Defense is asleep right now.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (Oq/TM)

boxer, way ahead on points in the 14th, is told by manager to go for the KO

fucking stoopid fuckers




Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (us2H3)

75 Kyle needs to repeatedly say, "He said he was going to kill me!"


THIS^^^^^^^^^

Posted by: Archer at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (gmo/4)

76 Also, Ace, I like the posting today.

*pats Ewok on the head*

Posted by: pookysgirl says YUB YUB at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (XKZwp)

77 Shouldn't the prosecutor be disbarred for this performance? Either for the way he's treating Rittenhouse or for general incompetence?

Posted by: Dave at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (mXUCw)

78 now we heard about you getting hit in the head, blah blah blah...yadda yada

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (ZZK0E)

79 Posted by: LostInSpace at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (ESLBo)

The apposite point.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:02 PM (QxGJc)

80 In his self-defense defense, he's saying that he brought it for personal protection. But I wonder how much it would have hurt his case to say honestly that he hoped to "keep the peace" or something like that.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (sGnvY)


No no no no no. Not his job, and makes him sound like a vigilante instead of a self defender.

Posted by: blaster at November 10, 2021 05:02 PM (mbFEM)

81 Everybody seems to be assuming the defense convinced Kyle to go on the stand. Is there some reason to think he didn't advise against it? I've been out of pocket all day.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 10, 2021 05:02 PM (SK+VG)

82 73 What gets glossed over in all this testimony is each of the people who pursued Rittenhouse, some for multiple blocks, had every opportunity to retreat from a person is visibly armed.
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It's almost like they didn't think there'd be any consequences for their actions. How Darwinian.

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 10, 2021 05:02 PM (WgWHG)

83 too much for a child

but what the fuck, it's no skin off the defense's ass
Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (us2H3)

He may be young, but this is young man who stood up just fine to 3 people trying to murder him in short order. What's going on today is nothing, and he's maintaining his composure perfectly. His life is on the line, and he's saving it with his performance here.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (trdmm)

84 More than ever, sad commentary that it took a 17 year old from a quiet street in Wisconsin to show us how it's done

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rats and Ivy League trained narcissist SJW rimjobbing lawyers at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (5DfsO)

85 So Rittenhouse took matters into his own hands, whereas antifa were just fun-loving scamps doing their civic duty.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (QxGJc)

86 Binger: "Did you get his signed consent to point your rifle at him?"

I may have added all of that.

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (WmGrA)

87 What gets glossed over in all this testimony is each of the people who pursued Rittenhouse, some for multiple blocks, had every opportunity to retreat from a person is visibly armed.

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well, yeah, they're dumb.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (ZZK0E)

88 Trials aren't scored by debater tactics. Frequent objections at trial are a tv and movie trope because real trials have long boring stretches.

You object when important evidence pertinent to the elements of the crimes alleged comes up; not when internet commentators say you should.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (9hXN1)

89 The prosecutor is insane and desperate. Nobody had been shot, yet, but, somehow, Rosenbaum thought it was a good idea to chase someone who has a rifle? Kyle tried to break contact, yet, it's his fault the thugs chased him?

Anyway, I know why the thugs picked on Kyle. They were nothing more than grown versions of school yard bullies who thought they had the upper hand with someone as young as Kyle.

They chose poorly.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (ZwxDF)

90 75 Kyle needs to repeatedly say, "He said he was going to kill me!"


THIS^^^^^^^^^
Posted by: Archer at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (gmo/4)

Kyle should hve done what any good lawyer would advise

KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (us2H3)

91 Twitter now circulating a fake picture of the Judge reading a cookie catalog during testimony.
They know it was a bad day(s).

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (AD3JT)

92 yes, I fired a gun in self defense.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (ZZK0E)

93 In his self-defense defense, he's saying that he brought it for personal protection. But I wonder how much it would have hurt his case to say honestly that he hoped to "keep the peace" or something like that.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (sGnvY)

probably not to smart. You can't defend property with deadly force as far as I understand

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (M+Lyo)

94 Don't you highlight legal documents in a basement all day?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021
*
That's what first-year associates and discovery review contractors get to do.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021


***
That was the punishment meted out to Jimmy/Saul's lady friend, the tall blonde with the nice feet, in Better Call Saul. She'd been with the firm for a while and had brought them some big business. I forget why they sent her to the basement like that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (txdEq)

95 the legal commentators on that one stream get old - fast
talk over the important stuff and fail to see the forest for the trees wrt defense strategy
imho

Posted by: Nora at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (DpZd5)

96 wait I thought FMB bullets go through people less lethal?

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (ZZK0E)

97 "Normally we call 911."

Yeah, after several days of rioting when the cops had done jack shit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (QxGJc)

98 Once he made a threat, preparing for defense became legal. The only real legal question is "if you believed his threats why didn't you shoot him sooner?" Which is easily answered by "because I didn't want to hurt him"

Posted by: mikethemoose at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (T/vhV)

99 there you go, keyle. I shot at him because he was attacking me.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (ZZK0E)

100 Hey not every trigger pull is on purpose !
Alec Baldwin

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (2JoB8)

101 It feels like the DA is just giving this the old college try under the assumption that he either won the case in voir dire or lost the case in voir dire.

Posted by: Funkotron at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (SxNSj)

102 78 now we heard about you getting hit in the head, blah blah blah...yadda yada

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM
'How did that feel, Mr. Rittenhouse?'
'Come here and I'll show you.'

Posted by: Eromero at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (0OP+5)

103 This kid has a lot of self control.

Posted by: gm at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (vMzmy)

104 Anyway, I know why the thugs picked on Kyle. They were nothing more than grown versions of school yard bullies who thought they had the upper hand with someone as young as Kyle.

They chose poorly.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (ZwxDF)

Fucked up and found out

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:04 PM (M+Lyo)

105 I am shooting him at this range because he was attacking me at this range!

Posted by: blaster at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (mbFEM)

106 He had no way of knowing the guy would take his gun and shoot him with it until he had his gun taken and was shot.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (0ryfU)

107 @71

I bet it has a lot to do with the wording of the jury instructions.

The jury gets a questionnaire they to fill out, stating what they believe the facts are. A good trial attorney focuses on what the jury instructions will say, and thus avoids any potential landmines.

And if the state's case is weak on one of the elements, the defense attorney hammers that again and again, so that the jury thinks--wow, this document that the judge gave us says the same thing that the defense attorney has been saying. . .

Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (AwPyG)

108 Rittenhouse is twice the man Binger and Kraus are.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (QxGJc)

109 Binger: You assumed he was going to take your gun.

If he had taken by gun he would have killed me.

Binger: You pointed it at him.


This is not questioning. This is just argumentative and combative. He's attacking rather than questioning here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (KZzsI)

110 104 Anyway, I know why the thugs picked on Kyle. They were nothing more than grown versions of school yard bullies who thought they had the upper hand with someone as young as Kyle.

They chose poorly.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (ZwxDF)

---

'God Created Men and Sam Colt Made Them Equal!'

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (WgWHG)

111 Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground, because "he doesn't have a weapon." He says he only used "one foot."

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (0G13K)

112 Kyle needs to repeatedly say, "He said he was going to kill me!" Also emphasize how insane and erratic Rosenbaum appeared. (Yelling the n-word at a white guy while surrounded by blacks isn't a hallmark of sanity.)
Posted by: pookysgirl lives with the crazy at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (XKZwp)

This reminds me of Rex Kramer, Danger Seeker.
Warning! N-word used

https://tinyurl.com/5dbwhh64

Posted by: Beartooth at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (KTaZ8)

113 They are criminalizing self defense. They can't overturn the constitution, but they can make your use of the privilege impossible.

Posted by: The Tyranny Edition at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (brME6)

114 This prosecution weasel needs to have his ass kicked.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (flINI)

115 91 Twitter now circulating a fake picture of the Judge reading a cookie catalog during testimony.
They know it was a bad day(s).

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (AD3JT


The picture is real, but was during a recess. Not a big deal.

Posted by: Liberty at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (i6gGH)

116 He may be young, but this is young man who stood up just fine to 3 people trying to murder him in short order. What's going on today is nothing, and he's maintaining his composure perfectly. His life is on the line, and he's saving it with his performance here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (trdmm)

well, you might be right and I hope you are

But I don't think you are

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (us2H3)

117 The way this Defense is NOT Objecting is fucking infuriating.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (Oq/TM)

118 Yeah I killed him and I hope he's fucking burning in hell for all eternity.

Posted by: Archer at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (gmo/4)

119 85 So Rittenhouse took matters into his own hands, whereas antifa were just fun-loving scamps doing their civic duty.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (QxGJc)

...

They were protesting a righteous cause. When you're protesting for a righteous cause it's like you're wearing the holy vestments which make you and everything you touch holy since they are holy.

And Rittenhouse was apparently opposing this righteous and holy action and therefore his actions are by definition unrighteous.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (z9npv)

120 But I wonder how much it would have hurt his case to say honestly that he hoped to "keep the peace" or something like that.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (sGnvY)

That's the argument the prosecutor *wants* him to make, "I was trying to be a hero" which goes into motivation and would let him say he provoked the attack. But saying he just wanted to protect himself keeps him firmly inside the boundaries of Justified Self Defense.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (trdmm)

121
Twitter now circulating a fake picture of the Judge reading a cookie catalog during testimony.
They know it was a bad day(s).
Posted by: Ktgreat


The pic is real but it wasn't during testimony. It was during a break.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (OAYzD)

122 you intended to kill the guy. binger getting wires crossed.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (ZZK0E)

123 he would no lnger attcak me.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (ZZK0E)

124 Binger: Video advances, Huber shot.

Binger: When you shoot him skateboard in hand? No gun, knife, bat, club, all he has is skateboard?

That he hit me in the head with twice

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (KGCjR)

125 52 33 15 Oy vey. It's displays like this that make me ashamed of my profession.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 10, 2021 04:50 PM (II3Gr)

"First thing we do, is...."
Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 04:53 PM (RYc1G)

I think Defense Attorney Richards has done a brilliant job today, He's out-thought his competition at every juncture.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (trdmm)


The only thinking done by the prosecution is how to persuade all twelve jurors, or at least one this go-round, that Rittenhouse is an immature Rambo-wannabe, carrying a Black Human-Killing Rifle he illegally carried, who had a hair-trigger temperament wired against everyone he considered a bad guy.

Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2021 05:07 PM (AMIL/)

126 This guy know more people are wounded than killed by firearms?

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 05:07 PM (2JoB8)

127 your only concern was of your own safety.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:07 PM (ZZK0E)

128 The way this Defense is NOT Objecting is fucking infuriating.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (Oq/TM)


Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake?

Posted by: Archer at November 10, 2021 05:07 PM (gmo/4)

129 I cannot imagine the jury, I don't care how crazy liberal Karen they are, is thinking, well that nice man hitting him with the skateboard shouldn't have gotten shot!

Posted by: blaster at November 10, 2021 05:07 PM (mbFEM)

130 "He said he was going to kill you and tried to take your weapon. But he didn't kill you now did he?!"

Posted by: runner at November 10, 2021 05:07 PM (V7qBU)

131 that's an argument you can make

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:07 PM (ZZK0E)

132 108 Rittenhouse is twice the man Binger and Kraus are.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (QxGJc)

that's kind of an insult, If you think about it

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (us2H3)

133 113 They are criminalizing self defense. They can't overturn the constitution, but they can make your use of the privilege impossible.

Posted by: The Tyranny Edition at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (brME6)

Privilege? It's called a RIGHT. A God given right.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - F*** Joe Biden and Fauci at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (N39Ws)

134 @95

Yeah, it's like listening to the football broadcasters who never played. You want to hear Tony Romo tell you what the QB is thinking, instead.

Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (AwPyG)

135 yeah buddy self defense necessarily includes killing, duh. You can argue this point that he killed someone but that's self defense.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (ZZK0E)

136 Binger: When you shoot him skateboard in hand? No gun, knife, bat, club, all he has is skateboard?
-----------------

That "gun, knife, bat, club" litany is getting to piss me off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (QxGJc)

137
Are you watching this right now?
Can you believe these questions?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (OAYzD)

138 The way this Defense is NOT Objecting is fucking infuriating.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (Oq/TM)

...

It has to be playing mind games with the prosecutor, if he has any functioning brain cells left.

He knows he's crossed all sorts of lines and been yelled at by the judge and the defense has had very intelligent responses up until now. In the back of his mind he has to be wondering what they know that he doesn't know, to be quiet the whole time.

My only hope is that this was communicated to Kyle ahead of time so that he's not wondering where his defense atty's are/what they are doing.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (z9npv)

139 62 Kyle Rittenhouse must be exhausted. When do they end this for the day?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2021 04:57 PM (YK8CE)


I hope by 4:30. After that we pretty much plunge into darkness for tonight's festivities.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (45fpk)
****

Festivities tonight, eh? Geez. . . . .you just got Tater Stelter fingering his planet Uranus already in anticipation. . . . .of the 7th inning stretch by (with) Donnie "back door" Lemon

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rats and Ivy League trained narcissist SJW rimjobbing lawyers at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (5DfsO)

140 83 too much for a child
Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 04:59 PM (us2H3)

He may be young, but this is young man who stood up just fine to 3 people trying to murder him in short order. What's going on today is nothing, and he's maintaining his composure perfectly. His life is on the line, and he's saving it with his performance here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (trdmm)

I like that take!

Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (RYc1G)

141 You cared about your own safety - you monster!

Posted by: blaster at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (mbFEM)

142 130 "He said he was going to kill you and tried to take your weapon. But he didn't kill you now did he?!"

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"It's called self defense."

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (WgWHG)

143 probably not to smart. You can't defend property with deadly force as far as I understand
====

Yeah, I'm sure you're right. But it seems like the truth of the matter is:

Q: Why did you shoot those guys?
A: They were trying to kill me.

Q: Why were you there carrying a rifle in the first place?
A: I hoped that by carrying a rifle I would deter rioters from burning cars and buildings.

Which isn't the same thing as saying you killed the guy to protect property. I can see how it wouldn't fly in court, but it just seems a shame that the truth doesn't work as a defense here, because it seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (sGnvY)

144 He is now arguing that Grosskreutz only had a handgun and Kyle had an AR-15 and therefore had nothing to fear so he should have let Grosskreutz point the handgun at him.

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (0G13K)

145 117 The way this Defense is NOT Objecting is fucking infuriating.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (Oq/TM)

All day long, the Defense has been objecting when REAL dangerous stuff has come up - like the Sooper Dooper Enhanced Video that Binger wanted to bring in. But when it's low level stupidity like all of this stuff, the Defense has chosen to let him ramble on and annoy the jury as much as he wants.

And I promise you the jury is sick to death of all of this nonsensical questioning, going nowhere. Everything that Binger is bringing up has been gone over extensively in previous days; he's just spinning his wheels.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (trdmm)

146 I shot a man in Reno
just to take his pie

Posted by: Fat Johnny Cash at November 10, 2021 05:10 PM (v0R5T)

147 the defense is a little like a stockbroker putting his client into a risky stock

if it goes south, who pays the piper ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:10 PM (us2H3)

148 Binger is trying to confuse Kyle.

He needs to stop.

And where the hell is his lawyer?

Posted by: Dianna at November 10, 2021 05:10 PM (YFlEv)

149 Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake?
Posted by: Archer at November 10, 2021 05:07 PM (gmo/4)

Although not a defense or any other kind of attorney, it seems to me you would want the jury to know when the prosecutor is out of line. Kyle's defense has given this horrid little twerp of a prosecutor entirely too much leeway.

Posted by: troyriser at November 10, 2021 05:10 PM (pYLCQ)

150 May Mr. Rittenhouse be cleared, and this be the proof that trial by jury is "that palladium of civil liberty and the only safe guarantee of the life, liberty and property of the citizen."

...and sue the f*** out of the prosecutor and all those who brought charges, as well as Antifa.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 10, 2021 05:10 PM (CdZ4i)

151 111 Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground, because "he doesn't have a weapon." He says he only used "one foot."

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:05 PM (0G13K)

If I were Kyle, I'd probably say something smart-alecky like, if someone were coming after you and you thought your life was in danger, I'd like to see what you'd do.

Which is why I stand in awe of this kid. Very composed.

Posted by: Marybeth in Florida at November 10, 2021 05:10 PM (4pK1/)

152
He is now arguing that Grosskreutz only had a handgun and Kyle had an AR-15 and therefore had nothing to fear so he should have let Grosskreutz point the handgun at him.
Posted by: ace


While Kyle was on his ass on the street.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:11 PM (OAYzD)

153 Brutal survey of what President Poopy Pants' priority should be. Nearly twice as many say his first priority should be to resign as the next highest result.

https://bit.ly/3F43OIp

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2021 05:11 PM (FVME7)

154 144 ace, that is going to make Defense closing to be sure.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:11 PM (9hXN1)

155 I feel sorry for kyle.

He got in over his head surrounded by ignorant bullies who wanted to destroy him. Retarded thugs who society has excused and supported and paid for their whole lives. Living in institutional protection of the broken court system which allows a guy like that to become prosecutor.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 10, 2021 05:11 PM (YiqGu)

156 "He said he was going to kill you and tried to take your weapon. But what make you think, Mr. Rittenhouse, that he was going to kill you ?!"

Posted by: runner at November 10, 2021 05:11 PM (V7qBU)

157 93 I wonder how much it would have hurt his case to say honestly that he hoped to "keep the peace" or something like that.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:00 PM (sGnvY)

probably not to smart. You can't defend property with deadly force as far as I understand
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:03 PM (M+Lyo)

And Kyle said exactly that earlier in the trial today: that you can't defend property with deadly force.

Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 05:11 PM (RYc1G)

158 And I promise you the jury is sick to death of all of this nonsensical questioning, going nowhere. Everything that Binger is bringing up has been gone over extensively in previous days; he's just spinning his wheels.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (trdmm)

Yeah, gotta agree with you there. I guess Little Binger is bringing the rage out in me

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 05:11 PM (Oq/TM)

159 Binger: Why is Grosskreutz with a pistol is a threat to kill you, but you are not a threat to kill him, with AR?

I've been attacked by multiple people.

Binger: You say he's a threat, he has pistol not pointed at you, you have AR pointed at him, why is he a threat?

****

Does this man have a job in the legal profession?

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 05:12 PM (KGCjR)

160 151 and again. Feet are considered deadly weapons when you are down on the ground.

What Binger is trying to do is to say--ignore the law, ignore the facts, ignore your common sense, vote to convict Kyle because he is a bad person who does bad things.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:12 PM (9hXN1)

161 And I promise you the jury is sick to death of all of this nonsensical questioning, going nowhere. Everything that Binger is bringing up has been gone over extensively in previous days; he's just spinning his wheels.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (trdmm)

Agree. As a juror on a conspiracy to commit murder trial I was annoyed at both the state and defense with pointless questions that had no under laying strategy. Just asking questions that had no real point to the trail.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 10, 2021 05:12 PM (KTaZ8)

162 That a "Department of Justice" decided to try this defendant enrages me and just adds to my disbelief that our government is as corrupt as hell.

Posted by: gm at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (vMzmy)

163 He says he only used "one foot."

Posted by: ace

That is all I use too.
Anymore, and it's considered assault with a deadly weapon

Posted by: The Paolo at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (vd8XM)

164 158 And I promise you the jury is sick to death of all of this nonsensical questioning, going nowhere.

^^^^
THIS

Posted by: Marybeth in Florida at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (4pK1/)

165
Grossgrits is clearly in Mid-Stride but the Littlebinger says Grosskritz is "stopped in front of you."

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (OAYzD)

166 trail = trial

Posted by: Beartooth at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (KTaZ8)

167 They're prosecuting the person who by far is the least culpable in this whole incident.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (QxGJc)

168 The prosecutor's line of questioning has left earth. Paraphrasing the prosecutor: You, Kyle Rittenhouse, only cared about killing Huber when you murdered him in cold blood [as Huber was beating KR in the head with what effectively was a club].

Now the Prosecutor is spewing the KR was the real threat as he was flat on his back and not the Gage who ran up on KR and pointed a loaded pistol point directly at KR. Some how that is not a threat. In that part of the video KR's rifle was pointed down with his trigger finger indexed on the receiver. He only raised it when Gage thrust a gun into his face.

Stop. Just Stop This. This is not justice.

Posted by: LostInSpace at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (ESLBo)

169 Just like the marxists thugs, these prosecutors, and the corrupt city and media behind them, see weakness in Kyle. Too bad he can't shoot these fuckers too.

Imagine if Kyle did not have Mike Lindell and his Pillow Empire behind him?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (YiqGu)

170 145 117 The way this Defense is NOT Objecting is fucking infuriating.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 05:06 PM (Oq/TM)
But when it's low level stupidity like all of this stuff, the Defense has chosen to let him ramble on and annoy the jury as much as he wants.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (trdmm)
======================

It's a high risk play because jurors are really uckfing stupid, but even a real brainlet would probably realize that there's something perverse about Mephistophelean speculation about the motives of someone who has threatened to kill you stalking you and trying to grab your gun.

Posted by: Funkotron at November 10, 2021 05:13 PM (SxNSj)

171 Rittenhouse had a duty not to annoy the rampaging Reds?

Oh. OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (QxGJc)

172 jesus... now we are going frame by frame of the videos zapruder style?

Back... and to the left.... back.... and to the left....

Posted by: AFG Vet at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (a7HML)

173 Is Binger gay? Because he seems gay.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the anti-DOTE at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (hlxe7)

174 He says he only used "one foot."
==
Me too. What's your point?

Posted by: Billy Jack at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (hP2SF)

175 Brutal survey of what President Poopy Pants' priority should be. Nearly twice as many say his first priority should be to resign as the next highest result.

https://bit.ly/3F43OIp
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2021 05:11 PM (FVME7)

If this was Trump, the media would be talking of NOTHING else and there would be calls for him-- from the media the Dems and Republicans like Romney --to resign and turn over the reins to Pence

For the good of the country

Posted by: JoeF. at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (mR6Gs)

176 But that's not what happened!

Posted by: Dianna at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (YFlEv)

177 >>>He is now arguing that Grosskreutz only had a handgun and Kyle had an AR-15 and therefore had nothing to fear so he should have let Grosskreutz point the handgun at him

Dude? Inside 20yds the handgun is just as if not more deadly. All advantages of the rifle evaporate at close range.

Posted by: mikethemoose at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (T/vhV)

178 And I promise you the jury is sick to death of all of this nonsensical questioning, going nowhere. Everything that Binger is bringing up has been gone over extensively in previous days; he's just spinning his wheels.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:09 PM (trdmm)
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This dude is standing between them and dinner. Nothing new is coming out, so the defense is letting this guy demonstrate what a nit-picking jerk he is.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (llXky)

179 Crazy Indian buffalo-headdress guy getting banged...

An Arizona man who was seen inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 wearing horns should be sentenced to over four years in prison [andy: 51 months] despite committing no violence that day, government prosecutors told a judge in a sentencing memorandum late Tuesday.

Jacob Chansley, known as the "QAnon shaman," should also receive three years of supervised release and be forced to pay $2,000 in restitution, prosecutors said.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM (UHVv4)

180 Someone should tell the defense attorney that he has a client on the stand.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM (jTmQV)

181 The prosecutor is arguing a skateboard isn't a deadly weapon? Let me see, Kyle got clocked by the skateboard after he was kicked in the head.

But yeah, it was just a bunch of youthful hijinks. Pull the other one, Mr. Prosecutor.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM (ZwxDF)

182 14 Rittenhouse Trial: Littlefinger Demands to Know Why Rittenhouse Didn't Let a Man Who Threatened to Kill Him Twice Take His Gun From Him
++++
I'm not watching and can't, so I will take this at face value. Why on earth should you? Who the hell does this fucker think he is?

Generally, in terms of the overall philosophy, the threat itself is immaterial. If someone wants to take a weapon from you, that person wants the ability to hurt you without risking himself in the process. Period. No other explanation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2021 04:49 PM (DU+/6)

You are supposed to:
1) shut up
2) let them do what they want to you
3) wait for me to show up. I am the professional, not you. And you in fact DO work for me.

Posted by: Hero In Blue at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM (CdZ4i)

183 this is David vs Goliath shit. the kid was impressive then and he is impressive now.

Posted by: x at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM (oA+QO)

184 "Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground..."

Correction: You can't only if you're a conservative American.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM (H8QX8)

185 Binger seems to think if he advances the video slow enough there's some magic collection of pixels out there that shows these three guys Kyle shot giving toys to orphans.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 05:16 PM (KGCjR)

186 That "gun, knife, bat, club" litany is getting to piss me off.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:08 PM (QxGJc)

A skateboard is a club. Literally a "blunt instrument". As are their users.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 10, 2021 05:16 PM (P3gRi)

187 it never occurred to the defense that this Binger fag would go balls to the wall with a child

a challenged and disturbed child

fucking stoopid morons

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:16 PM (us2H3)

188 You are supposed to:
1) shut up
2) let them do what they want to you
3) wait for me to show up. I am the professional, not you. And you in fact DO work for me.
Posted by: Hero In Blue at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM (CdZ4i)
-------------------

It's of a piece with the Left's fetishization of experts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:16 PM (QxGJc)

189 add to my "belief"

Posted by: gm at November 10, 2021 05:16 PM (vMzmy)

190 This dude is standing between them and dinner. Nothing new is coming out, so the defense is letting this guy demonstrate what a nit-picking jerk he is.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (llXky)

I think most of this day has been dedicated to the defense letting the prosecution hang themselves. When your opponents are immolating themselves, get out of the way and let them.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (CdZ4i)

191 It scares them that people might get this crazy idea that they can defend themselves against the brownshirts.

Posted by: runner at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (V7qBU)

192 Litigating split seconds of time with the benefit of frame-by-frame video, of a confusing emotionally charged threatening situation. This is insane.

Posted by: BS at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (JVM4q)

193
Littlefinger thinks firearms and other implements used as weapons are analogous to "Magic, The Gathering" cards ...

"... Let's see, that's +7 Damage, -2 Healing, +1 ..."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (3l5Yq)

194 Dude? Inside 20yds the handgun is just as if not more deadly. All advantages of the rifle evaporate at close range.
Posted by: mikethemoose

Not saying you are wrong, but has the FBI and their "miami incident" boffins commented on this event? Why were those shots so lethal, placement? luck? non-motivated attacker? or did the rifle have something to do with it?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (YiqGu)

195
Her Majesty and Delilah have arrived safely in Decatur, AL for four days of shows. Hoping we get a piece of the Group at least one of the days this weekend.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (/U27+)

196 183 this is David vs Goliath shit.


And that is a good look for Kyle.

Even many Karens don't like a bully

Posted by: Marybeth in Florida at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (4pK1/)

197 Littlefinger: Just because Zminsky was shooting a gun while he was chasing you, you don't know he was definitely shooting at you, right?

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (0G13K)

198 >>>wait I thought FMB bullets go through people less lethal?

>According to the Hague Convention, fuck you!

Posted by: Arek Bardwin at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (+xGNi)

199 I'm glad I didn't watch this live all day. What a fvcking dick this prosecutor is.

Posted by: dartist at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (+ya+t)

200 The fact that this is even a trial is a debasement of the legal system and American jurisprudence.

It has opened a door, however narrrowly, to the total ruin of a young man's life.

So, mission accomplished.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (H8QX8)

201 Well. One thing is for certain. Thomas Binger has earned himself a prominent position at the top of the list of scumbags to exterminate when the national divorce lights off. I wonder how many people are in prison due to this guy's malpractice? This is our justice system? This is the man given the reigns of power to enforce justice? Madness.

Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (6mUSa)

202 Kyle took advantage of him because Kyle's gun was so much bigger than his.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (MGjUO)

203
I think most of this day has been dedicated to the defense letting the prosecution hang themselves. When your opponents are immolating themselves, get out of the way and let them.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (CdZ4i)
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The defense still gets to make a closing argument and I'm sure they're going to stitch together all of the nonsensical claims this nut is making.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (llXky)

204 191 It scares them that people might get this crazy idea that they can defend themselves against the brownshirts.
Posted by: runner at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (V7qBU)

And THIS is at the heart of this entire circus.

Posted by: Marybeth in Florida at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (4pK1/)

205 Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground, because "he doesn't have a weapon." He says he only used "one foot."

Many states consider kicking someone in the head with a "shod foot" to be "Assault and Battery with a Dangerous Weapon."

Posted by: bonhomme at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (sG4Hj)

206 Its pretty weird. The prosecutor is basically arguing for the jury to convict not on the law but on Karen Logic.

Posted by: It can always be worse, and every year proves its true at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (nB/ID)

207 the defense is thinking right now

why in the fuck did we do this ??

but much more important, where are we going for dinner ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (us2H3)

208 "Kyle, is it true you chose an AR-15 because it does five more points of damage than an AR-10?'

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (KGCjR)

209 Kyle had the audacity to not stay at the scene of an angry mob attacking him. Like he should have stayed to shott more of them?

Posted by: Coquettish Haberdasher at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (buTO7)

210 There cannot be a juror who can understand the twisting of logic this "representative of the justice department" is presenting.

I think they have to hate him and any "system" of justice that wastes dollars, time, and human emotion on trying this kid.

Posted by: gm at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (vMzmy)

211 Yeah it seems to me he is starting over

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (2JoB8)

212 207 the defense is thinking right now

why in the fuck did we do this ??

but much more important, where are we going for dinner ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (us2H3)

And at $500+/hour, what color Mercedes should I order?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - F*** Joe Biden and Fauci at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM (N39Ws)

213 It's of a piece with the Left's fetishization of experts.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:16 PM (QxGJc)

True, but the Left has a fetish of "experts" because they confidently believe ( with good reason) that 99% of so called experts are on THEIR side.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (mR6Gs)

214
The jury is certain to have at least one idiot who thinks you must be guilty if you were charged.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (/U27+)

215 you just decide to go and surrender to the police instead of standing in a mob? wow.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (ZZK0E)

216 John Wick used a book as a deadly weapon.

A skateboard is much more lethal.

I rest my case.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (haWye)

217 If Littlefinger doesn't give his lying SJW Barry Soweto Odildo Lineage Lotion gulping mouth a rest, he's going to miss out on the NAMBLA "night games" tonight due to poor oral performance

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rats and Ivy League trained narcissist SJW rimjobbing lawyers at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (5DfsO)

218 remember there is a redirect

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (0G13K)

219 184 "Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground..."

Correction: You can't only if you're a conservative American.
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM (H8QX

Sounds... familiar, said George Zimmerman.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (oHd/0)

220 I think the prosecution is right about a skateboard being harmless.

I'd like to fly out there and prove him correct in front of the jury. "Oh no! His head came off! That shouldn't have happened! Whoops! Whoopsie!"

Just think, this guy is going to run for DA (again) and probably get elected.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (wAnMi)

221 177 >>>He is now arguing that Grosskreutz only had a handgun and Kyle had an AR-15 and therefore had nothing to fear so he should have let Grosskreutz point the handgun at him

Dude? Inside 20yds the handgun is just as if not more deadly. All advantages of the rifle evaporate at close range.

Posted by: mikethemoose at November 10, 2021 05:14 PM (T/vhV)


Everyone knows that when the NKVD and Einsatzgruppen and Khmer Rouge executed people by gunshot, they moved back 20 feet or so to take the shots. They never ever held the muzzle of the gun six inches or closer from the back of the victim's head.

Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (AMIL/)

222 >>>Many states consider kicking someone in the head with a "shod foot" to be "Assault and Battery with a Dangerous Weapon."

in england it's considered attempted murder.

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:21 PM (0G13K)

223 "the crowd's reaction"

what?

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:21 PM (ZZK0E)

224 will someone explain to me what Kyle accomplished ?

if you're gonna go to all this trouble, please have something to show for it

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:21 PM (us2H3)

225 It must be great to be sitting on a hard-ass wooden seat on a Wednesday afternoon getting paid 20 bucks a day to listen to the prosecutor say "Now, if you advance this another seven-tenths of a second you can plainly see..."

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 05:21 PM (KGCjR)

226 Afternoon.

So, setting aside the two dead guys, Rittenhouse still had to contend with gun charges, correct? Some commentators have said he's boned on those.

Would those charges be a sticking point in the judge dismissing the case or directing a verdict? Can he dismiss some charges and allow the jury to vote on others?

AtC is of the knowing. Now would be a marvelous time for her to get BCochran off his chunky butt to do another Drift Compatible podcast.

Posted by: Robert missed Drift Compatible at November 10, 2021 05:21 PM (1Yy3c)

227 181 The prosecutor is arguing a skateboard isn't a deadly weapon? Let me see, Kyle got clocked by the skateboard after he was kicked in the head."

I'd love the chance to demonstrate to that prosecutor why a 4' long 2x4 can be a deadly weapon.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:21 PM (trdmm)

228 Many states consider kicking someone in the head with a "shod foot" to be "Assault and Battery with a Dangerous Weapon."

in england it's considered attempted murder.
Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:21 PM (0G13K)

Because they are soccer players/

Posted by: JoeF. at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (mR6Gs)

229 The defense still gets to make a closing argument and I'm sure they're going to stitch together all of the nonsensical claims this nut is making.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (llXky)

Lets hope they address some of the bullshit the Prosecutor has spewed on redirect.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (Oq/TM)

230 Binger is REALLY getting to piss me off.

I'm about an hour behind real time, but his questions ("why did you think people - i.e., rioters - might hurt you?").

What an a-hole.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (QxGJc)

231 Binger: 729 frames from BJ one the scene video, will like to start at 468 and frame by frame to 500.

AFB: As if Kyle had a frame-by-frame view, over several minutes of Grosskreutz charging him with a pistol in hand.

Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (RYc1G)

232 True, but the Left has a fetish of "experts" because they confidently believe ( with good reason) that 99% of so called experts are on THEIR side.
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It's because they like to think of themselves as experts. Everything is about dividing the world into virtuous/smart people and evil/ignorant people, and reassuring themselves that they're in the virtuous/smart group.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (sGnvY)

233
Take it from me, eyeglasses are a deadly weapon.

Posted by: Don Lucchesi at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (/U27+)

234 he defense is thinking right now

why in the fuck did we do this ??

but much more important, where are we going for dinner ?
Posted by: REDACTED
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Redacted is thinking right now: Why didn't I go to lawschool? But more importantly, how can troll this place?

Posted by: Redacted: sitting in a jar of mayonnaise on Funk and Wagner Porch at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (brME6)

235 in england it's considered attempted murder.
Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:21 PM (0G13K)

Well, they're fussy little bitches over there.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (UuD2k)

236 Sponge is doing end of season marching band finals with his daughter's band. He a little busy through next week.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (UUBmN)

237 >>>Because they are soccer players/

well I think yeah it might be an anti-hooligan law actually

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (0G13K)

238 Not saying you are wrong, but has the FBI and their "miami incident" boffins commented on this event? Why were those shots so lethal, placement? luck? non-motivated attacker? or did the rifle have something to do with it?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (YiqGu)

Rifles have a much higher velocity. I remember a guy that shot police through their car doors at quite a distance

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (M+Lyo)

239 Attention at 6mUSa.

Posted by: flounder at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (KnJdm)

240 Prosecutor, "no one ever fired a shot at you!" Medals and Martini's for me!

KR, No they didn't. The howling mob chased me for blocks, with one threatening to kill me and take my weapon, while another did a flying stomp on my head with flying kick, with yet another beat my head in with a giant skate board, and a fourth tried to shoot me from point blank range.

Stop. Just Stop This. This is not Justice.

Posted by: LostInSpace at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (ESLBo)

241 Littlefinger is such a creep it makes me wonder if he is a donor to The Lincoln Project. He is both excited that Kyle is now 18 and, thus he can be within 500 yards of him, disappointed that he is not *ahem* 5 or 6 years younger.

Posted by: AFG Vet at November 10, 2021 05:23 PM (a7HML)

242 Captain Chokeout of Comicsgate went to prison for like six years for kicking someone in the head. That's where I heard it was automatically charged as attempted murder. He was a soccer hooligan.

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:23 PM (0G13K)

243 Kyle has horrible defense attorneys. Why the hell aren't they objecting? Binger is evil. Richards is inept.

Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:23 PM (6mUSa)

244 Binger does seem like an angry gay man

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:23 PM (M+Lyo)

245 The left is triggered by the Judge's phone that rang during Rittenhouse trial referring to the ringtone as the MAGA national anthem.

https://tinyurl.com/78th8xbk

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:24 PM (NpAcC)

246 So, setting aside the two dead guys, Rittenhouse still had to contend with gun charges, correct? Some commentators have said he's boned on those."

We don't really know. There's a Wisconsin law forbidding those under 18 from carrying weapons, BUT there are a host of exceptions plus case law that allows those younger to carry hunting rifles. It's a very confusing law and it has been suggested it may be unconstitutional because it contains so many exceptions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:24 PM (trdmm)

247 OH MY GOD NO REDIRECT!

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:24 PM (0G13K)

248
It's because they like to think of themselves as experts. Everything is about dividing the world into virtuous/smart people and evil/ignorant people, and reassuring themselves that they're in the virtuous/smart group.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:22 PM (sGnvY)

That too.

"Expertism" --I know that's not a real word, but it applies here-- is of a piece with "Credentialism", which is a tenet of their Faith

Posted by: JoeF. at November 10, 2021 05:24 PM (mR6Gs)

249 Binger is assuming everything ! THAT FUCKING ASSHOLE

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:24 PM (M+Lyo)

250 So Rittenouse ...

1. Wore an offensive t-shirt
2. Exaggerated in saying he was an EMT
3. Put out fires lit by antifa assholes

Guilty!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (QxGJc)

251
Defense isn't Re-Directing.

Fucking dummies.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (OAYzD)

252 No redirect??? No redirect?? I rest my case, Richards is a fucking moron!!!!

Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (6mUSa)

253 Judge Jeanine on the Five brings it.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (NpAcC)

254 AH Lloyd,
In closing, best to rely on your presentation and the witnesses rather than play debate with a prosecutor that has nada. In this trial so far, the law is with Kyle (except maybe the gun charge), the facts are with Kyle, so ADA Binger is literally pounding the table.

Play to your own strengths in close rather than spend much time on the prosecution's sham of a case.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (9hXN1)

255 I'm guessing the pistol caliber was greater than .223, yes?

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (ELgVT)

256
Binger does seem like an angry gay man

____________

Not until he flounces back to his table.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (/U27+)

257 The left is triggered by the Judge's phone that rang during Rittenhouse trial referring to the ringtone as the MAGA national anthem.

https://tinyurl.com/78th8xbk
Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:24 PM (NpAcC)

Has anyone called on him to recuse himself?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (mR6Gs)

258 Why would they not re-direct? I don't understand.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (45fpk)

259 206 Its pretty weird. The prosecutor is basically arguing for the jury to convict not on the law but on Karen Logic.

Posted by: It can always be worse, and every year proves its true at November 10, 2021 05:19 PM
That's it exactly!

Posted by: Eromero at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (0OP+5)

260 No redirect by defense counsel. Probably wise - get Kyle off the stand.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - F*** Joe Biden and Fauci at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (N39Ws)

261 OH MY GOD NO REDIRECT!
Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:24 PM (0G13K)


Just...wow.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (Ez6QX)

262 So Rittenouse ...

1. Wore an offensive t-shirt
2. Exaggerated in saying he was an EMT
3. Put out fires lit by antifa assholes

Guilty!


Don't forget he drove without a license.

Double guilty.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (sG4Hj)

263 so that's it? that's the cross? some guy who asked questions that formed the basis of self-defense.

yes, you kill in self defense because you know you're killing someone. in self defense. Your intent to kill is not murder, even if you know you may kill, because your actions are in self-defense.

it's a bit circular but knowing you are engaging in deadly force does not have relationship to self-defense. the fear of harm is. and binger, the dum dum, asked and answered that over and over.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (ZZK0E)

264 I am having a ragestroke at this binger motherfucker

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (M+Lyo)

265 251 Soothsayer, better not to redirect a witness if the other side has not damaged him. That means he cannot be recalled now.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (9hXN1)

266 Doesn't the defense get to re-cross Kyle?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (r5BVk)

267 Defense realizes the jury is probably exhausted from all this non-sense. Better to close out the day and they can always re-call Kyle to the stand again before closing.

Let the jury go home seeing what an asshole Littlefinger has been for the better part of a day.

Posted by: AFG Vet at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (a7HML)

268 Is Binger even aware there's is no law that says you HAVE to render first aid to someone that you just shot because they attacked you? He seems to think that's some sort of gotcha.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (KGCjR)

269 What's Redirect?

Posted by: Robert missed Drift Compatible at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (1Yy3c)

270 really, I thought defense was on pee pee break, then redirect?

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (ZZK0E)

271 I bet someone on the DA's team purposefully put in a call to the judge--while court was in session-- because they knew it was his ringtone.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (mR6Gs)

272
Crazy Indian buffalo-headdress guy getting banged...

An Arizona man who was seen inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 wearing horns should be sentenced to over four years in prison [andy: 51 months] despite committing no violence that day, government prosecutors told a judge in a sentencing memorandum late Tuesday.

Jacob Chansley, known as the "QAnon shaman," should also receive three years of supervised release and be forced to pay $2,000 in restitution, prosecutors said.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 10, 2021 05:15 PM


Restitution? He walked through the Capital Building like thousands on any ordinary day. If walking through the Capitol is that expensive then Nancy Pelosi owes a fortune.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (dQvv7)

273
The left is triggered by the Judge's phone that rang during Rittenhouse trial referring to the ringtone as the MAGA national anthem.

https://tinyurl.com/78th8xbk
Posted by: redridinghood


100% Fake News.
Not surprised they "pounced" on the ringtone, though.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (OAYzD)

274 In closing, best to rely on your presentation and the witnesses rather than play debate with a prosecutor that has nada. In this trial so far, the law is with Kyle (except maybe the gun charge), the facts are with Kyle, so ADA Binger is literally pounding the table.

Play to your own strengths in close rather than spend much time on the prosecution's sham of a case.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (9hXN1)
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I'm not an attorney, though I do know that if the glove doesn't fit, something something.

Anyway, a viable tactic in dealing with an obnoxious jerk is to just let him be an obnoxious jerk.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (llXky)

275 He answered correctly

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (M+Lyo)

276 252 No redirect??? No redirect?? I rest my case, Richards is a fucking moron!!!!
Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (6mUSa)

skipped redirecting cllecture in law school for wine tasting class

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (us2H3)

277 260 No redirect by defense counsel. Probably wise - get Kyle off the stand.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - F*** Joe Biden and Fauci at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (N39Ws)
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Maybe don't want to belabor the proceedings any more than necessary. I would imagine the jury has numb butts, and is desperate to leave.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (QxGJc)

278 258 grammie winger, given Rittenhouse is the defendant, and the prosecutor scored no points, no sense in addition risk. If Kyle was redirected, then the prosecutor can recross.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (9hXN1)

279 222 >>>Many states consider kicking someone in the head with a "shod foot" to be "Assault and Battery with a Dangerous Weapon.
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Some states it would never have been brought to a grand jury.
Other states he would have been No Billed.
While in some he would have received a commendation and college/trade school funding.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (MGjUO)

280 "You knew your shot would kill Huber, after you just missed somebody that close with two shots, didn't you?" Prosecutor Beria.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (3FShG)

281 Why would they not re-direct? I don't understand.
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If they got out everything and the prosecution didn't make any meaningful points, you don't.

If you do. Does the judge give the prosecution a re-cross?

Does the Jury want to go home? Does your re direct mean kyle has to wait overnight before he is finished - tomorrow?

Posted by: Redacted: sitting in a jar of mayonnaise on Funk and Wagner Porch at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (mTQ02)

282 Defense said no re-direct. So Rittenhouse is off the stand.

I think this is pretty much gonna wrap it up except for closing arguments. Not today, of course.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (trdmm)

283
Plus, I didn't hear the judge say it was his phone. It could've been the stenographer's phone, for all we know.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (OAYzD)

284 My guess is that the prosecutor knows that the people on a jury are mostly very stupid (most of the world is very stupid)

So he is trying to feed them arguments to hang it up. You see this a lot in Lefty arguments - contradictory shotgun approach to arguing looking for something that will stick to the wall.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (YiqGu)

285 eye roll @ flounder

Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (6mUSa)

286 I'm sure the jury already has their verdict....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (0PUU9)

287 Not until he flounces back to his table.
----

There was definitely something catty about the way he kept saying, "if I can continue without being *interrupted*" when he was getting chewed out earlier.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (sGnvY)

288 Everyone knows that when the NKVD and Einsatzgruppen and Khmer Rouge executed people by gunshot, they moved back 20 feet or so to take the shots. They never ever held the muzzle of the gun six inches or closer from the back of the victim's head.
Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2021 05:20 PM (AMIL/)
........

Clean up is a bitch.

Posted by: wth at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (v0R5T)

289 Anyone believe charges would have been brought against Grossscrunt and Huber, had things gone the other way and they managed to kill Kyle?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (ZwxDF)

290 Tell you what mister attorney you stand there and I will beat you with a skateboard and you see if you think you need to defend yourself against that or not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (KZzsI)

291 267 Defense realizes the jury is probably exhausted from all this non-sense. Better to close out the day and they can always re-call Kyle to the stand again before closing.

Let the jury go home seeing what an asshole Littlefinger has been for the better part of a day.
Posted by: AFG Vet at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (a7HML)
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Thank you. That's a better way of putting what I was trying to say.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (QxGJc)

292 The judge should've yelled at himself and confiscated his own phone.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (xPl2J)

293 Prosecutor looks like the villain train robber in 1930's films

Posted by: Coquettish Haberdasher at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (buTO7)

294 grammie winger, given Rittenhouse is the defendant, and the prosecutor scored no points, no sense in addition risk. If Kyle was redirected, then the prosecutor can recross.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:27 PM (9hXN1)


Thsnk you whig. So in your opinion, this is a good move?

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 05:29 PM (45fpk)

295 A lot of these lefty types seem to lack self-awareness.

They don't understand how they come across to other people.

Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 05:29 PM (AwPyG)

296 I can't type.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 05:29 PM (45fpk)

297 Bet the jury will love the defense for no re-direct. Now they can go to dinner.

They've been bored to death by Littlefinger.

Posted by: Marybeth in Florida at November 10, 2021 05:29 PM (4pK1/)

298 260 No redirect by defense counsel. Probably wise - get Kyle off the stand.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - F*** Joe Biden and Fauci at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (N39Ws)
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I tend to agree. For better or worse, this entire gambit by the defense was to make the jurors listen to an insane person gnaw tendentiously at the defendant until 4:30 in the CT afternoon, then graciously allow them to go home and eat.

Might as well stick to the bit. There's not much for the else to say except to give the Principal speech from Billy Madison.

Posted by: Funkotron at November 10, 2021 05:29 PM (SxNSj)

299 Jessie Watters is spot on.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:29 PM (NpAcC)

300 If this was a TV show, the defense would have had Doug Marcaida come in and beat the crap out of a ballistics dummy with bones inside to decide if a skateboard will keel or not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (KZzsI)

301 >>>Not saying you are wrong, but has the FBI and their "miami incident" boffins commented on this event?

I'm not saying rifles become non-dangerous inside 20yds. But the advantage of a rifle is getting on targets smaller than about 100 MOA with the disadvantage of taking a fraction longer to get a good sight picture.

Once the target gets BIG you have a fractionally faster response with a pistol.

Posted by: mikethemoose at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (T/vhV)

302 This prosecutor is evil--he doesn't care one bit about justice, he wants a win at any cost.

And he is in every courtroom in this country.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (jIL4c)

303 Hmmm... so... directed verdict tomorrow before closing arguments?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (oHd/0)

304 *eyeroll at the glowing new guy*

Posted by: flounder at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (KnJdm)

305 Where the heck are you shooters buying 22LR at 12 cents a round? I go online and everyone is 17 and up.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (KiBMU)

306
So no redirect = Kyle can't be called back by Littlebinger?

Okay, that makes sense.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (OAYzD)

307 Evidently this prosecutor wants to run for DA.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (NpAcC)

308 Anyone believe charges would have been brought against Grossscrunt and Huber, had things gone the other way and they managed to kill Kyle?
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (ZwxDF)


No way.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (Ez6QX)

309 Good grief. The super secret crypto-MAGA ringtone is "God bless the USA"?

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (sGnvY)

310 Thsnk you whig. So in your opinion, this is a good move?
=
So kyle might have had to come back tomorrow for more.
Now he can relax. Its humane.

Posted by: nothing to be gained at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (eeZr2)

311 267 Defense realizes the jury is probably exhausted from all this non-sense. Better to close out the day and they can always re-call Kyle to the stand again before closing.

Let the jury go home seeing what an asshole Littlefinger has been for the better part of a day.
Posted by: AFG Vet at November 10, 2021 05:26 PM (a7HML)

I agree. Kyle accomplished Goal #1, which is to show the jury that he remains calm and composed under a great deal of pressure, and can defend his actions rationally. The prosecution is the side beating this dead horse into the ground.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (trdmm)

312 Probably wanted to get Kyle off the stand, it's been a long day for him.
It was painful for me just to watch it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (jTmQV)

313 Once the target gets BIG you have a fractionally faster response with a pistol.
Posted by: mikethemoose at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (T/vhV)

...

And the rounds are plenty big and heavy.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (z9npv)

314 284 Gentleman, that risks the convictions being set aside by the judge as not addressing the questions of law.

The jury has to apply the law in the jury instructions as to the facts in evidence through testimony and submissions.

Essentially, it is the reverse of jury nullification as Binger is asking them to ignore the law and ignore the facts in order to convict.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (9hXN1)

315 yeah, I don't know. What did binger prove? that when kyle pulled the trigger he was knowingly using deadly force in self defense and that people in the crowd were firing guns all night, so who cares?

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (ZZK0E)

316 >>>297 Bet the jury will love the defense for no re-direct. Now they can go to dinner.

i bet if they asked the judge to break for the day he'd grant it. It's 4:30 there.

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (0G13K)

317 The left is triggered by the Judge's phone that rang during Rittenhouse trial referring to the ringtone as the MAGA national anthem.

https://tinyurl.com/78th8xbk
Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:24 PM (NpAcC)


you know regardless of any evidence or testimony, if Kyle doesn't get sent up the river for murder 1, this is going to be a bone of contention from here on out. They'll never let go of it.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (wAnMi)

318 whig, Your insight and clarity is most appreciated.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (xOvFO)

319
I'll say this: Defense put a lot of faith/confidence in their young client not to blow himself up on the stand.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (OAYzD)

320 308 Anyone believe charges would have been brought against Grossscrunt and Huber, had things gone the other way and they managed to kill Kyle?
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:28 PM (ZwxDF)

No way.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 10, 2021 05:31 PM (Ez6QX)

I think we know that all the video evidence would have been erased if that happened.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:32 PM (trdmm)

321 Hmmm... so... directed verdict tomorrow before closing arguments?
==
Prosecutor going to ask for rebuttal?

Not sure of what . . . what do you guys think?

Posted by: nothing to be gained at November 10, 2021 05:32 PM (pHdBY)

322 Poster at Legal Insurrection makes this comment;

If you redirect, that gives Binger time to re cross. They want to get in another witness so that the jury has something else to think about over the holiday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2021 05:32 PM (YK8CE)

323 If you chose not to redirect so can get your client off the stand

why in the holy fuck put him on in the first pace ??

stoopid fuckers

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:32 PM (us2H3)

324 The super secret crypto-MAGA ringtone is "God bless the USA"?

--

yup. they hate you, the country, its past.

They probably hate the soil too.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:32 PM (ZZK0E)

325 The entire prosecutor cross was as close to boy buggery as one can get with your pants on and in public. Odds on the jury was with horrified by the totally of what just occurred or in the equivalent of a diabetic coma. I can't imagine any of this advancing the prosecution case. The totality of the prosecution cross is KR had a duty to get killed and anything short of that was cold blooded murder. KR came across as telling the truth about living through moments of terror. I don't think I could have held up as well as KR did on the stand.

Posted by: LostInSpace at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (ESLBo)

326 I would imagine at this point the prosecution has the jury punching themselves in the face.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (Rz7nO)

327 but still, that was a waste of a few hours. It was quite engaging and I couldn't break away. real trial stuff.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (ZZK0E)

328 310 Nothing to be gained. No, with no redirect, there is no chance for the DA to recross.

Defense is showing that Kyle did nothing wrong to correct in his testimony by not redirecting him. State is left fuming. I trust the attorney in the courtroom making the call.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (9hXN1)

329 >>>If you redirect, that gives Binger time to re cross. They want to get in another witness so that the jury has something else to think about over the holiday.


over the holiday?

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (0G13K)

330 7 Bet the jury will love the defense for no re-direct. Now they can go to dinner.

what, are they all like 75 years old ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (us2H3)

331 I've been on the stand as a witness in a couple of minor things. It's very wearing and my life wasn't even on the line.

The defense was probably keeping an eye on Kyle and probably thought it would be wise to get him off the stand, as Kyle is probably worn out, and, nothing really to be gained.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (ZwxDF)

332 I know that if someone was trying to kill or rape me, my first thoughts would be to their welfare.

What a tool.

Posted by: Cheri at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (oiNtH)

333 Will this case redefine "self defense"? It seems like that's the bigger question, at least to me. It's been apparent for several years now that instigators are never the ones on trial. That's pretty alarming.

The father who beat to death the perv who molested and killed his child is another situation... very different, but one that strikes close to home about what is/isn't "justice" as we've been led to believe.

Personally I would rather not be in either situation, but if I found myself in one I don't think the authorities would be the first people I'd call or reach out to. Maybe a backhoe rental company and someone to deliver a truckload of lye.

"For my garden."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (BFigT)

334 If you chose not to redirect so can get your client off the stand

why in the holy fuck put him on in the first pace ??
---
If you ever get in a jam, you should represent yourself.

Posted by: nothing to be gained at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (pHdBY)

335 Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground, because "he doesn't have a weapon." He says he only used "one foot."
------------------

The cop who killed St. George of Fentanyl wasn't using a weapon. He wasn't even kicking or stomping.

The cop wasn't the killer. Gravity was.

Does Littledinger agree he should be set free?

Posted by: reason at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (o0WIV)

336
what, are they all like 75 years old ?
Posted by: REDACTED

________

Denny's time!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (/U27+)

337 over the holiday?
Posted by: ace at

Tomorrow is Veterans Day

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (pGb63)

338 No redirect??? No redirect?? I rest my case, Richards is a fucking moron!!!!
Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:25 PM (6mUSa)


Deciding whether to do redirect with your own client is not a simple question. There's strategy. If you try to rehabilitate your client on redirect, the prosecution gets to recross. Sometimes, its better to get your client off the stand even if he's taken a few hits rather than spending the next hour+ picking at the scab, and allowing your opponent to pick at the scab some more.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (guGkK)

339 over the holiday?
Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (0G13K)



it's Johnnie Cochran's birthday

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (us2H3)

340 >>>Defense has another witness today, but court taking a 10-15 minute break.

Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (RYc1G)

341
Thanks to "social media," millions of people are believing Lies about this case.

-- the ringtone lie
-- the cookie catalog lie

Twitter needs to be wiped off the planet.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (OAYzD)

342 over the holiday?

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (0G13K)

Veteran's Day. Thursday is a federal and many other courts' holiday.

Posted by: flounder at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (KnJdm)

343 >>>Tomorrow is Veterans Day

oh geeze slipped my mind

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (0G13K)

344 Don't get the no re-direct myself. Anywho, my crystal ball is pretty hazy, so I will predict this so hopefully it doesn't come true, being that we all think the prosecutor didn't prove crap, looked like a fool and this should be a slam dunk, but he will be convicted. And then we will all say WTF!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (r5BVk)

345 Yeah moron he stomped with one foot.

Because if he lifted his second foot, HE WOULD HAVE FALLEN ON HIS ASS.

Posted by: Kyle.making the jurors.laugh. at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (TRGyz)

346 over the holiday?

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (0G13K)
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Veterans Day. Tomorrow.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (llXky)

347 Sometimes, its better to get your client off the stand even if he's taken a few hits rather than spending the next hour+ picking at the scab, and allowing your opponent to pick at the scab some more.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (guGkK)

And Kyle didn't take any hits at all today. No need to rehabilitate anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (trdmm)

348 Here's one to file under "Can you believe this happy horseshit?":


https://tinyurl.com/PrinceHarryCoup


It's long past time to deport him and Sparkle Markle...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (ZSK0i)

349 over the holiday?
Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:33 PM (0G13K)

Remembrance Day.

Posted by: dantesed at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (88xKn)

350 The jury has to apply the law in the jury instructions as to the facts in evidence through testimony and submissions.

You love you some law. An expert of every individual legal tree. And no understanding of the forest.

A jury can do any damn thing they please. Hence all the bullshit instructions from the judge - that only matter if the jury listens. Or cares.

Posted by: Not a Dime to Spare at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (touVE)

351 Denny's time!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (/U27+)

even Denny's early bird has standards

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (us2H3)

352 Probably a four day holiday because it's on Thursday.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (xPl2J)

353 343 >>>Tomorrow is Veterans Day

oh geeze slipped my mind
Posted by: ace at Novem


Seattle
Public schools are closed on Friday as well for a lack of staffing.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (pGb63)

354 well, that's what it looks like when your client takes the stand.

now you know.

An ADA asks about 5 hours of insane questions.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (ZZK0E)

355 @redacted, it's not a whole lot of fun to sit in a jury on a high profile murder case. And the one I was on was only a local high profile case, not national.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (ZwxDF)

356 Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground, because "he doesn't have a weapon." He says he only used "one foot."


Sure. The notorious "one-foot" rule. Your attacker must attack you with both feet or you can't legally defend yourself with deadly force.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (guGkK)

357 200 The fact that this is even a trial is a debasement of the legal system and American jurisprudence.

It has opened a door, however narrrowly, to the total ruin of a young man's life.

So, mission accomplished.
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 10, 2021 05:18 PM (H8QX

=======
Or .... the prosecutors reasonably feared that BLM/Andy Tifa would dox them and threaten them and their families in their own homes .....

So, they called in a jury and passed that little shit nugget onto those 12 or so people instead.

Doesn't matter if they win or lose at work because they won a little peace for themselves at home.

Posted by: jc at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (N1WXz)

358 flounder, I'm not new, I just change handles constantly. comments here are among the best precisely because it's so anonymous, easy, and untrackable. check your paranoia.

Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (6mUSa)

359 Will this case redefine "self defense"? It seems like that's the bigger question, at least to me. It's been apparent for several years now that instigators are never the ones on trial. That's pretty alarming.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 10, 2021 05:34 PM (BFigT)

Been that way for all my life. Ask any kid who ever got bullied, and you'll hear the same story - the system did absolutely nothing until they stood up for themselves, then they got punished for doing so.

Why would we expect the so-called justice system to function any differently? (And people wonder why I have issues with authority.)

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (Msrhc)

360 eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month

Posted by: x at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (oA+QO)

361 Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground, because "he doesn't have a weapon." He says he only used "one foot."
====

I wasn't aware you could kick with both feet simultaneously. You can only ever kick with one foot.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 10, 2021 05:37 PM (iydjf)

362 Even Geraldo is saying Kyle should be acquitted.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:37 PM (NpAcC)

363 On a different topic.. It looks like the truck driver in NJ won.....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 10, 2021 05:37 PM (0PUU9)

364 Ow! Ooof! Oh no, you've -- OOF!-- bloodied your knuckles on --ERK!-- my face! Here, let --OW-- let me bandage that --OOF-- that for you...

Posted by: Littledinger in a fistfight, apparently, at November 10, 2021 05:37 PM (o0WIV)

365 check your paranoia.
Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (6mUSa)



I'd say flounder's is less than yours.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (ZSK0i)

366 flounder, I'm not new, I just change handles constantly. comments here are among the best precisely because it's so anonymous, easy, and untrackable. check your paranoia.

Posted by: sfv at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (6mUSa)

Fair enough. Might not want to discuss execution of a court officer in someone else's house. But that's just me. Being paranoid.

Posted by: flounder at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (KnJdm)

367
A jury can do any damn thing they please. Hence all the bullshit instructions from the judge - that only matter if the jury listens. Or cares.
Posted by: Not a Dime to Spare at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (touVE)

what would you propose instead of a jury - the Chinese system? The Russian? There are a lot of flaws with the jury system, but everything else is worse.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (trdmm)

368 Either the defense knows the prosecution has not disproved self defense or he is incompetent.

The prosecutor is an ass and has no understanding of self defense.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (0OmEj)

369 I watched until a minute ago and had to turn it off.

Posted by: Weasel at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (0IeYL)

370 I don't think "Littlefinger" is quite right. He is more like Justin Hammer from Iron Man 2: Flashy, a talker, full of BS, too cute by 1/2, and incompetent.

Posted by: Mattnw42 at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (v6ubM)

371 I missed a holiday?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (Xrfse)

372 Even Geraldo is saying Kyle should be acquitted.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:37 PM (NpAcC)

---------------

Time to go dig up what Geraldo was saying about it the day after it happened.

Posted by: reason at November 10, 2021 05:39 PM (o0WIV)

373
An acquittal doesn't change anything. All is "right" in the world.

A guilty verdict Changes Everything we understand about self-defense and violent rioters.

In other words, the Left has nothing to lose in this case; We Do.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- "fuck around and find out" at November 10, 2021 05:39 PM (OAYzD)

374 I wasn't aware you could kick with both feet simultaneously. You can only ever kick with one foot.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy


you haven't seen Stallone's 2 footed kick save in Victory?

Posted by: x at November 10, 2021 05:39 PM (oA+QO)

375
The cop wasn't the killer. Gravity was.

Right. Gravity and heart disease and drug use. But mostly heart disease and drug use.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2021 05:39 PM (DUIap)

376 >>>Tomorrow is Veterans Day

oh geeze slipped my mind

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2021 05:35 PM (0G13K

Smart military blog

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 10, 2021 05:39 PM (xPl2J)

377 There are a lot of flaws with the jury system, but everything else is worse.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (trdmm)

This.

Posted by: flounder at November 10, 2021 05:39 PM (KnJdm)

378 370 I don't think "Littlefinger" is quite right. He is more like Justin Hammer from Iron Man 2: Flashy, a talker, full of BS, too cute by 1/2, and incompetent.
Posted by: Mattnw42 at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (v6ubM)

...

I always thought they should bring him back.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 10, 2021 05:39 PM (z9npv)

379 Judging from what I have read from resources like Law of Self Defense and others, this is the type of situation you get into when you kill somebody with a gun. You put yourself into the hands of your fellow jurors. And that is even without it being under a magnifying glass for cultural reasons.

Not saying you shouldn't protect yourself, just know what you are signing up for.

" It's been apparent for several years now that instigators are never the ones on trial. That's pretty alarming."

I have been told that self-defense is an 'active defense', what is on trial is did the defendant have justification for doing what would otherwise be a crime (killing somebody).

Posted by: goodluckduck at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (V8zw+)

380 In other words, the Left has nothing to lose in this case; We Do.
====

That rule can also be applied to every fucking thing in existence.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (iydjf)

381 I don't think "Littlefinger" is quite right. He is more like Justin Hammer from Iron Man 2: Flashy, a talker, full of BS, too cute by 1/2, and incompetent.
Posted by: Mattnw42 at November 10, 2021 05:38 PM (v6ubM)
---------------

He refers to his style of cross-examination as "The Ex-Wife." And it performs just about as spectacularly.

Posted by: reason at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (o0WIV)

382 > I wasn't aware you could kick with both feet simultaneously. You can only ever kick with one foot.

Flying double leg kick.

https://youtu.be/3SscI_2CgUE?t=35

Good day, Sir!

Posted by: bonhomme at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (sG4Hj)

383 Defense met their goal of putting Kyle on the stand:

Up till now his character and actions have been presented thru the lens of the MSM and Social Media. The jurors got to see and hear from him as an actual person.

He clearly came across as having restraint and only used deadly force when absolutely necessary. He exercised that force only as long as the threat remained. He never shot anyone who was not a threat -- no bystanders or innocents.

Finally, they got the prosecution to show how malicious, vindictive, petty, and abusive they are. Kyle came across as more mature and adult in his responses then Littlefinger did during his petulant question in this farce. That will go a long way with a jury.

Posted by: AFG Vet at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (a7HML)

384 338 Cicero gets it.

I will go back and review the testimony but my sense of Kyle's testimony is that Binger, the ADA, did not lay a finger on him and Kyle's responses and the prosecutor's overemo questioning style did a lot of damage to the prosecutor's case as well.

The chief worry that I have right now for Kyle is the nebulous gun charge. Sometimes juries when confronted with people dead try to reach a compromise verdict by convicting on a lesser charge. Personally, from a plain reading of the text, I think that the law is unconstitutionally vague and a strict reading (required in criminal cases) would exonerate Kyle. But, the judge has not dismissed that charge unlike the curfew one. We shall see.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (9hXN1)

385 Al Capone's Vault Geraldo?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (kBuGL)

386 Littlefinger is now arguing that you can't shoot a man who is kicking you and stomping your head when you're on the ground, because "he doesn't have a weapon." He says he only used "one foot."

That's a really excellent argument, since more people are murdered with hands and feet than are murdered with "assault weapons."

Posted by: Socratease at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (oqnjT)

387 FFS, Binger. Give it up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (QxGJc)

388 eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month

Posted by: x at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (oA+QO)
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Great-grandfather was in the Argonne at the front when the armistice took effect. We have a letter of his, written before the 11th and he scribbled on the bottom: "p.s. I am o.k."

That's how my great-grandmother knew he survived the war.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (llXky)

389 @367

And there's kind of a rough justice, as long as the jury consists of normal, rational people.

Jury nullification--the DA shouldn't have charged

And a sympathetic citizen will get more breaks than a thug, regardless of the law.

Who's to say that's not ultimately fair?

Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (AwPyG)

390 Kicking with both feet at the same time would be quite a feat. So to speak.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (Rz7nO)

391 In other words, the Left has nothing to lose in this case; We Do."

The Left has a lot to lose in this case, and they know it. That's why they're so agitated. The Left holds on to power by fear and intimidation; if someone can stand up to them publicly and get away with it their entire power structure starts to collapse.

just look at what they are saying themselves, they know this better than we do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (trdmm)

392 I just change handles constantly

You and "Not a dime too much" , etc, etc should form a support group.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (YK8CE)

393 I should say started before the 11th, and he dated it 11/11 with his postscript.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (llXky)

394 over the holiday?

Posted by: ace



Jake Tapper Tweets For The Troops Day

Posted by: Hands at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (786Ro)

395 Sounds like it's over for today, starting again tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (2JoB8)

396 what would you propose instead of a jury - the Chinese system? The Russian?

Nothing different. Jury Nullification is the most Democratic remedy I can think of.

I sure as fuck would never surrender to any legal system solely run by the self-styled experts like whig. Fuck. That.

Posted by: Not a Dime to Spare at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (touVE)

397 I was just on a jury last week for a 6 count violent felony trial. The victim was a women. Terrible injuries to her by her abusive ex-spouse. There were 9 women and 3 men, including me on the jury. I live in a very very red state - Trump won 60%/40%. Not including any of the women here on this blog, but man. Women shouldn't be allowed to serve on a jury. All the problems we had were from the women who couldn't seem to make a fucking decision. After three 12 hour days of deliberations, we convicted him on all counts. It should have only taken 3 hours.

Posted by: Archer at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (gmo/4)

398
Remembrance Day.

Unless you forget

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (63Dwl)

399 355 @redacted, it's not a whole lot of fun to sit in a jury on a high profile murder case. And the one I was on was only a local high profile case, not national.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:36 PM (ZwxDF)
Oh, I' m sorry I said such a horrible thing
I'll go and correct it immediately
now, where did I say that,
still looking






Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (us2H3)

400 Ace brother. It sounds like you need a shot of bourbon.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (Rz7nO)

401 By holiday, I thought Thanksgiving was being referenced.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (Xrfse)

402 Did you see at TGP where the Judge's phone went off during the trial? It played like 5 notes from a song. The song? Proud to Be An American. The Twitterati Left lost their minds about that.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (OssQ4)

403
Even Geraldo is saying Kyle should be acquitted.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:


I'm pretty sure it was decades before the last millennium when I gave two shits what that diminutive twat thought about anything.

He's lucky he's not serving Barack Obama coffee at three am.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (dQvv7)

404 I think whoever pointed out above that the purpose was to show that Kyle was not a hothead was spot on.

Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (AwPyG)

405 390 Kicking with both feet at the same time would be quite a feat. So to speak.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (Rz7nO)

The Kirk Special was always something where he threw his body sideways into a group. I do seem to remember a flying kick with both feet somewhere though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (kBuGL)

406 An acquittal doesn't change anything. All is "right" in the world.

A guilty verdict Changes Everything we understand about self-defense and violent rioters.

In other words, the Left has nothing to lose in this case; We Do.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- "fuck around and find out" at November 10, 2021 05:39 PM


The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse will set precedent for re-establishing the long held American tradition that it is right & proper to shoot rioters, arsonists, and looters.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2021 05:43 PM (DUIap)

407 The chief worry that I have right now for Kyle is the nebulous gun charge. Sometimes juries when confronted with people dead try to reach a compromise verdict by convicting on a lesser charge. Personally, from a plain reading of the text, I think that the law is unconstitutionally vague and a strict reading (required in criminal cases) would exonerate Kyle. But, the judge has not dismissed that charge unlike the curfew one. We shall see.
Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:40 PM (9hXN1)

I agree, I have that same fear. I am hoping that the Judge takes care of that issue with some clear instructions to the jury, but that's just a hope at this point. I think that Binger's demeanor with the Judge today didn't win him any favors.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 05:43 PM (trdmm)

408 And he is in every courtroom in this country.
Posted by: Lrrr at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (jIL4c)

I rate this as true

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:44 PM (M+Lyo)

409 The victim was a women. Terrible injuries to her by her abusive ex-spouse. There were 9 women and 3 men, including me on the jury. I live in a very very red state - Trump won 60%/40%. Not including any of the women here on this blog, but man. Women shouldn't be allowed to serve on a jury. All the problems we had were from the women who couldn't seem to make a fucking decision.
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Fascinating. Woman beaten by man. Women jurors in knots.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 10, 2021 05:44 PM (iydjf)

410 Rittenhouse isn't on trial for defending himself against these guys. He's on trial because the shooting ended a state-sanctioned riot.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 10, 2021 05:45 PM (/KPLX)

411 379 goodluckdude,
Kyle is above ground so there is that. Unfortunately, there are many self defense actions done every day, they just don't involve shooting much. Estimates are between 800,000 and 2.2 million or so defensive gun use incidents occur annually. Most of the time, presentation or even someone believing that someone was armed was enough to end the conflict.

In the relatively few self defense cases that involve shooting, most are clear--either justified or not. The gray area ones get the media coverage but are probably less than 20 percent that go to trial.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:45 PM (9hXN1)

412
The Left has a lot to lose in this case, and they know it. That's why they're so agitated. The Left holds on to power by fear and intimidation; if someone can stand up to them publicly and get away with it their entire power structure starts to collapse.

just look at what they are saying themselves, they know this better than we do.
Posted by: Tom Servo


But the "law" remains the same.
If Kyle is acquitted, the Left will scream about how it's "unprecedented" and "unusual," though. When, in fact, it's the opposite.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:45 PM (OAYzD)

413 >>>Jury to be brought in and dismissed for the day.

Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 05:45 PM (RYc1G)

414 372 Even Geraldo is saying Kyle should be acquitted.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 05:37 PM (NpAcC)

Of course he should. like Zimm, he shoulda never been put on trial

but the "no reasonable prosecutor" bull shit only applies to th leftist criminals

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:45 PM (us2H3)

415 Her Majesty and Delilah have arrived safely in Decatur, AL for four days of shows. Hoping we get a piece of the Group at least one of the days this weekend.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 05:17 PM (/U27+)

Deliliah is going to be too pooped to pup! Price of fame and fortune, I guess.

Posted by: Russkilitlover, who did NOT take Akakay's overcoat at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (nWxPx)

416 The chief worry that I have right now for Kyle is the nebulous gun charge. Sometimes juries when confronted with people dead try to reach a compromise verdict by convicting on a lesser charge.

Unless the judge can explain exactly what the law means, and the jury can also reasonably read it that way, the most logical thing to do is to decide that you can't find someone guilty of violating a law nobody can understand. The panel of lawyers on Rekieta Law couldn't figure out what it meant.

Posted by: Socratease at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (oqnjT)

417 My city has a great Veterans Day observance. Last year it rained like hell but tomorrow is supposed to be decent. I look forward to it every year.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (Xrfse)

418 The Kirk Special was always something where he threw his body sideways into a group. I do seem to remember a flying kick with both feet somewhere though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

many a stuntman had to take a Shatner double footed kick to the chest including the Gorn. I think.

Posted by: x at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (oA+QO)

419 If you watch "the first 48" you can see the cops and the prosecutors deciding whether the shooter's self defense claim was justified.

It doesn't always wind up in court

Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (AwPyG)

420 I believe that this jury pool consists of 11 women and 8 men. All white except for one Hispanic man (unless he's the juror that got tossed for the Jacob Blake joke)

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (45fpk)

421 Pretty sure it's Black Letter Law that once someone grabs any part of your weapon, that person is considered "armed" for purposes of the original gun holder's right to self defense.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (1rQW7)

422 The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse will set precedent for re-establishing the long held American tradition that it is right & proper to shoot rioters, arsonists, and looters.
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2021 05:43 PM (DUIap)

Let us pray

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (M+Lyo)

423 @REDACTED, you made a comment about the jury being 75. I may have, most likely, misunderstood your meaning.

If so, apologies.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (ZwxDF)

424 Did you see at TGP where the Judge's phone went off during the trial? It played like 5 notes from a song. The song? Proud to Be An American. The Twitterati Left lost their minds about that.
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I cannot abide a continued coexistence with these people.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (iydjf)

425
After three 12 hour days of deliberations, we convicted him on all counts. It should have only taken 3 hours.
Posted by: Archer at November 10, 2021 05:42 PM (gmo/4)

__________

Some poor grad student made his defense before his committee. They told him to please wait in the library. Two hours later they finally tell him he passed. They spent one minute making that decision and the next hour and 59 minutes gossiping about who was going to be the next president of the university.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (/U27+)

426 An acquittal doesn't change anything. All is "right" in the world.
--------------

An acquittal will likely mean:
- moar riots
- St. George's relative overplaying his swagger and actually committing a crime against one / multiple jurors
- lectures from politicians

The average American has no patience for any of that right now, with $4 - $5 gas and no turkey this Thanksgiving. Keeping the left distracted with petty crap helps remind the rest of the country how self-serving and out of touch they are.

Van Jones was right. Those are weird words to type.

Posted by: reason at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (o0WIV)

427 413 >>>Jury to be brought in and dismissed for the day.
Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 05:45 PM (RYc1G)

*Judge* "Now don't go home and watch how I dressed down the idiot prosecutor when you were out of the room."

Posted by: Bete at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (Ojki1)

428 AltonJackson, absolutely! Kyle is not guilty on any charge but there are many things on trial here.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (xOvFO)

429 Yes, we celebrate the End of the War to End all Wars... which ended like... 260 Wars ago (yeah, I just went and looked).

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (oHd/0)

430 If he is acquitted, the Left has to make sure that they do not lose momentum in their cultural revolution movement.

They will double down on attacking him to discourage others, and to reinforce that rioting and threatening for social justice is always right, and defending law and order is always wrong.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (YiqGu)

431 I see Scogg is back with his usually pleasant demeanor.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:48 PM (9hXN1)

432 The Left has a lot to lose in this case, and they know it. That's why they're so agitated. The Left holds on to power by fear and intimidation; if someone can stand up to them publicly and get away with it their entire power structure starts to collapse.

just look at what they are saying themselves, they know this better than we do.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I'm sorry but I believe you are misguided. The left has already won this one

the verdict means nothing

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:48 PM (us2H3)

433 The panel of lawyers on Rekieta Law couldn't figure out what it meant.

Posted by: Socratease at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (oqnjT)


It means that you, your grandma and your cousin Louise can all carry a gun during deer hunting season.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 05:48 PM (45fpk)

434 You and "Not a dime too much" , etc, etc should form a support group.

I hope your husband never finds that secret Trapper Keeper of yours - with my name all over it. Creepy, yet flattering. But mostly creepy.

Posted by: Not a Dime to Spare at November 10, 2021 05:48 PM (touVE)

435 many a stuntman had to take a Shatner double footed kick to the chest including the Gorn. I think.
Posted by: x at November 10, 2021 05:46 PM (oA+QO)

Think you are right, esp on Gorn. Double fisted punches as well where you wonder how he avoided breaking fingers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 05:49 PM (kBuGL)

436 Kicking with both feet at the same time would be quite a feat. So to speak.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2021 05:41 PM (Rz7nO)



Hey! Inspector Clouseau pulled it off!


https://youtu.be/FbUD7FRStbY?t=112


Well, sort of...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 10, 2021 05:49 PM (ZSK0i)

437 Don't they want him acquitted? It gives them an excuse to have a street festival with new shoes for everybody.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 10, 2021 05:49 PM (vN+oL)

438
I can see the jury asking why he was even there, no matter how nice a guy he was.

Can only hope that they think that shitstain Rosenbaum was going to kill him and posed a grave threat to his life.

All three scumbags who got shot were trying to kill him. Seems cut and dry, but people are really fucking stupid.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at November 10, 2021 05:49 PM (4WPW/)

439 I can't type.
Posted by: grammie winger

Can ya dance ?

Posted by: JT at November 10, 2021 05:49 PM (arJlL)

440 437 Don't they want him acquitted? It gives them an excuse to have a street festival with new shoes for everybody.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 10, 2021 05:49 PM (vN+oL)

It is awfully close to Christmas

Posted by: It's me donna at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (0PUU9)

441 423 @REDACTED, you made a comment about the jury being 75. I may have, most likely, misunderstood your meaning.

If so, apologies.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (ZwxDF)

NO FUCKING APOLOGIES ON THE AOS

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (us2H3)

442 If he's acquitted, just thing about the can of worms that opens up.

If he brings malicious prosecution, suddenly he has a reason to look at all the antifa organization and communications with law enforcement.

Along with any communications with the DOJ, etc.

Posted by: artemis at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (AwPyG)

443 This case should have never ended up in court. The cowardly cops know what happened and could have ruled justifiable homicide and never prosecuted the case. The cops ain't yer friend.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (o2MD2)

444 If the glove don't fit, you must acquit.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (Rz7nO)

445 Some poor grad student made his defense before his committee. They told him to please wait in the library. Two hours later they finally tell him he passed. They spent one minute making that decision and the next hour and 59 minutes gossiping about who was going to be the next president of the university.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 05:47 PM (/U27+)
----------------

Every time city council goes into the back room for "executive session," this is exactly the kind of crap I assume is going on.

I *know* it is when the school board does it. They will actually try to use this as an offensive tactic. Hide out in executive session for HOURS on a school / work night, hoping that the crowd of parents will dissipate.

Posted by: reason at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (o0WIV)

446 If this was a TV show, the defense would have had Doug Marcaida come in and beat the crap out of a ballistics dummy with bones inside to decide if a skateboard will keel or not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 10, 2021 05:30 PM (KZzsI)

I still want to see this anyway, even if it's just some YouTube video.

Posted by: pookysgirl and the Basement Kittehs at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (XKZwp)

447 NOOD QH2

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (ebHuT)

448 >Fascinating. Woman beaten by man. Women jurors in knots.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 10, 2021 05:44 PM (iydjf)

They probably thought the defendant had gorgeous eyes or something like that.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (cSs/W)

449 New meme format just dropped. Link to Jack Posobiec Twitter.

https://tinyurl.com/b8zkfune

Scroll down about 20 comments to Bitcoin Brah, for the blank image. It's gold.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 10, 2021 05:51 PM (OssQ4)

450 Can ya dance ?

Posted by: JT at November 10, 2021 05:49 PM (arJlL)


I won't dance...don't ask me

Posted by: grammie winger at November 10, 2021 05:51 PM (45fpk)

451
I will say the Left already got a "win" just by having this case go to trial.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:51 PM (OAYzD)

452 the left still think George Zimm was guilty

and they always will

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:51 PM (us2H3)

453 Kyle Rittenhouse is a heck of a man. Great job! I am celebrating with chocolate pie, and afterwards a wee dram of Makers Mark.

Posted by: Eromero at November 10, 2021 05:52 PM (0OP+5)

454 451
I will say the Left already got a "win" just by having this case go to trial.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 05:51 PM (OAYzD)

this person usually gets it

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:52 PM (us2H3)

455 Posted by: Not a Dime to Spare at November 10, 2021 05:48 PM (touVE)

You're so funny, Scoggy. I never had a Trapper keeper with anyone's name on it, but dream on. Just saying you and whatever his name is have the same approach.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2021 05:52 PM (YK8CE)

456 444 If the glove don't fit, you must acquit.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (Rz7nO)
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If only one foot was kickin', you'd better be convictin'!

Posted by: Littledinger at November 10, 2021 05:53 PM (o0WIV)

457 You had an AR-15 and should have just absorbed all these attacks because it is the only Real Weapon at the scene.

Hey it's just like the Israel / Palestinian conflict!

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls? at November 10, 2021 05:53 PM (WJebE)

458 443 This case should have never ended up in court. The cowardly cops know what happened and could have ruled justifiable homicide and never prosecuted the case. The cops ain't yer friend.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 05:50 PM (o2MD2)

The Cops at the scene, took his report, and let him go.

This is ALL on the DA.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 10, 2021 05:53 PM (oHd/0)

459 And, I finally realized why this case was brought against Kyle: Kyle was the proxy case for the right if self defense.

But, that's not alarming, nope nope nope.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 05:53 PM (ZwxDF)

460 Unless the judge can explain exactly what the law means, and the jury can also reasonably read it that way, the most logical thing to do is to decide that you can't find someone guilty of violating a law nobody can understand. The panel of lawyers on Rekieta Law couldn't figure out what it meant.

Posted by: Socratease

There might or might not be some WI caselaw involving the statute. However, in criminal prosecutions, Supreme Court precedents indicate that a law is to be applied narrowly using plain construction rather than broadly. Most recent example of that was the honest services charges used against Jeffery Skilling of Enron fame and Conrad Black. Scotus reversed both of those convictions because the law was applied by the prosecutors (hello Mr. Andrew Weissman in Skilling) in too broad a manner. Scotus Justice Ginsberg indicated that a reading of the law that included any dishonest action in employment would literally make taking paperclips home a federal offense.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:53 PM (9hXN1)

461 457 You had an AR-15 and should have just absorbed all these attacks because it is the only Real Weapon at the scene.

Hey it's just like the Israel / Palestinian conflict!
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls? at November 10, 2021 05:53 PM (WJebE)

Yeah, who could ever get hurt by a rock?

Posted by: Goliath. at November 10, 2021 05:54 PM (oHd/0)

462
I'm sorry but I believe you are misguided. The left has already won this one

the verdict means nothing
Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 05:48 PM (us2H3)

I just love whiny defeatists.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at November 10, 2021 05:55 PM (CdZ4i)

463 My dream is KR is fully acquitted and the Judge makes some 'My Cousin Vinny Remarks' such as looking at Binger and asking him "Are you on drugs" and the Judge looks at the jury and says "Everything that guy said is bullshit".

I can dream.

Posted by: Cheri at November 10, 2021 05:55 PM (oiNtH)

464 The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse will set precedent for re-establishing the long held American tradition that it is right & proper to shoot rioters, arsonists, and looters.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2021 05:43 PM (DUIap)

-------

Not to mention attempted murderers ... intent on murdering you or others.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 10, 2021 05:57 PM (ebHuT)

465
And, I finally realized why this case was brought against Kyle: Kyle was the proxy case for the right if self defense.

----

Yes. This is a test case. They want us to "shelter in place" and wait for Our Betters to protect us, like is required of the Euro-cattle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 10, 2021 05:58 PM (/KPLX)

466
They also want us to know that self-defense is no excuse if the violence is Party-approved.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 10, 2021 05:59 PM (/KPLX)

467 The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse will set precedent for re-establishing the long held American tradition that it is right & proper to shoot rapists, rioters, arsonists, rapists, and looters.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2021 05:43 PM (DUIap)

FIFY!

Posted by: pookysgirl and the Basement Kittehs at November 10, 2021 05:59 PM (XKZwp)

468 It is also possible that in red states at the very least, like the recent laws that allow drivers to drive through illegal protests on the streets, that they revise their criminal statutes.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 05:59 PM (9hXN1)

469 And, I finally realized why this case was brought against Kyle: Kyle was the proxy case for the right if self defense.

If you shoot to kill - I don't care how much you read and apply the sage lessons of Branca - you are going to jail.

Doesn't mean you should not shoot - my Magnum is by me right now. Just understand ... Branca and the rest of the Legal Eagles here are telling you a lie that they think is true. There is no law. If you shoot to kill - a prosecutor somewhere up the chain is coming for you.

Posted by: Not a Dime to Spare at November 10, 2021 05:59 PM (touVE)

470 One thing which the defense has failed to mention is that Kyle was being attacked by grown men when he was a minor. There is a lot of difference between adult males an 17 year olds physiologically; you don't get your explosive quick twitch muscles until your body has matured.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 10, 2021 06:00 PM (3FShG)

471 Now that its been a while, some people are starting to admit that Black Widow was a pretty lousy movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 10, 2021 06:04 PM (KZzsI)

472 The defense also needs to point out that more people are killed every year by bare hands and feet than by AR-15s.

So yes, people attacking you with bare hands and feet are an absolute threat to your life.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 10, 2021 06:04 PM (3FShG)

473 >>>I wasn't aware you could kick with both feet simultaneously. You can only ever kick with one foot.

>Jame Tiberius Kirk had a flying jump kick that set an industry standard. Even Chuck Norris knew better than to boldly go there.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 10, 2021 06:04 PM (+xGNi)

474 They want us to "shelter in place" and wait for Our Betters to protect us, like is required of the Euro-cattle.

Or cower in place as their brownshirt army tears apart the city.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 10, 2021 06:05 PM (KZzsI)

475

Who paid the three stooges to be in Kenosha causing trouble?

Rosenbaum looks like he can't hold a job washing dishes, Huber, idiot, Gaige, a lost soul who has no idea what he wants to do in life.

They were coordinated somehow...remember, the DA in Seattle is Antifa. Is Bingy? I can see him sitting around after work with his other progs leeches talking antifa.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at November 10, 2021 06:06 PM (4WPW/)

476 Science thread disappeared, like a random quantum fluctuation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 10, 2021 06:07 PM (guGkK)

477 They were coordinated somehow

Remember the shooting of that one guy by antifa, in retaliation for this? Totally coordinated down to the car that pulled up to block him off. "There's one!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (KZzsI)

478 Dang! New post went poof like a Biden Fart in the Royal Court.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (o2MD2)

479 Welp. I guess no noods is good noods.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (sGnvY)

480 The top post just disappeared as I was making a comment on The Planetarium Manager.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (kBuGL)

481 The science was not settled on that post.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (0ryfU)

482 Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the Quick Hits thread.

Posted by: Bete at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (Ojki1)

483 478 Dang! New post went poof like a Biden Fart in the Royal Court.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (o2MD2)

Farts in the wind,
all we are are farts in the wind.

Ohhh, ah ah...

Posted by: Kansas at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (kBuGL)

484 Had a blank comment box and tried it but got another. Hit banner and ended here

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (2JoB8)

485 I just love whiny defeatists.
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Nominate for Thread Winner!!

Posted by: Lurk at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (MIODZ)

486 Dang! New post went poof like a Biden Fart in the Royal Court.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (o2MD2)

Except he biden fart lingered, the new post didn't. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (VwHCD)

487 482 Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the Quick Hits thread.
Posted by: Bete at November 10, 2021 06:08 PM (Ojki1)

Quick Hits 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted by: Kansas at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (kBuGL)

488 Science thread must have been Schrodingers Cat.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (trdmm)

489 Blog gone wonky.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (xOvFO)

490
Whut in tarnation happened there?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (/U27+)

491 When the commies hear "Proud to be an American" they start to writhe and smoke like a vampire at dawn.

Good to know!

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (sGnvY)

492 Well...that was interesting.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (Xrfse)

493 Damn, I made a comment and poof! What happened? I feel like I'm cursed.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (nxdel)

494 I'm confused.

Posted by: Javems at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (uha8u)

495 Farts in the wind,
all we are are farts in the wind.

Ohhh, ah ah...
Posted by: Kansas at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (kBuGL)

If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.

Posted by: Mao at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (CdZ4i)

496 489 Blog gone wonky.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 10, 2021 06:09 PM (xOvFO)

So day of the week ending in Y.

Plus side, Ace probably didn't ban himself. Down side, no busty lesbian pron either.

Posted by: Bete at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (Ojki1)

497 Acquittal is not victory. Victory would look like this:

- $26M settlement from city (or whatever they gave the saint fentanyl family)

- identification and conviction of organizers of riots for felony murder

- identification of flying kick guy, and conviction for attempted murder

- Renaming the local park after Rittenhouse

- Public flogging of DA, Mayor, Investigator.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (YiqGu)

498 What Lassie?

*bark*

There are still commenters in the Quick Hits thread?

*bark bark*

Posted by: Timmy at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (guGkK)

499 Work gripe: On messages with a huge distribution list, unless otherwise indicated DON'T hit reply all. Especially for something like 'Thank you.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (kBuGL)

500 Guns, baby!!! Ah likes 'em!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (o2MD2)

501 Like a box of chocolates...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 10, 2021 06:11 PM (Xrfse)

502 Could have been something posted objectionable to Ace and Cobs by a troll.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2021 06:11 PM (9hXN1)

503 That was painful.

Posted by: JustSo at November 10, 2021 06:11 PM (fdpot)

504 Wasn't me.

Posted by: wth at November 10, 2021 06:11 PM (v0R5T)

505
Big Steak-Umm get to Ace?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 06:11 PM (OAYzD)

506 Someone call Pixy. The blog is shitting the bed,

Posted by: Robert at November 10, 2021 06:11 PM (1Yy3c)

507 Found quick hits in my history, last post a hour ago

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (2JoB8)

508 Shit, I'll never criticize steak-ums again if we can have the blog back

Posted by: Ben Had at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (xOvFO)

509 Oh no! Did the Gerbils come down with the Covid?!?

Posted by: Flyguy at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (pLEy5)

510
Ace "boomered" the nood.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (OAYzD)

511 Ace is posting from the hot tub on the roof and dropped his phone in the water.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (0ryfU)

512 So, I was trying to comment in reply...

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If I believed that aliens walked among us, trying to pass themselves off as human- which I don't- VP Harris would be high on the exhibits list.
Posted by: sal at November 10, 2021 06:02 PM (bJKUl)

Aliens coming to Earf to give mankind blow jobs?

To Serve Man indeed!

Posted by: Robert at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (1Yy3c)

513 499 Work gripe: On messages with a huge distribution list, unless otherwise indicated DON'T hit reply all. Especially for something like 'Thank you.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (kBuGL)

I wasn't exactly broken up when a coworker who did this on every email wound up becoming a former coworker. Though the email likely had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Bete at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (Ojki1)

514
Everyone call Ace "boomer" when it comes back.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (OAYzD)

515 Renaming the local park after Rittenhouse
----

Good news is, we've already got that covered.

Bad news is, we're renaming it Black Lives Matter Square.

Posted by: Philadelphia at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (sGnvY)

516 Damn, I made a comment and poof! What happened? I feel like I'm cursed.
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB

Who's laughing now?

Posted by: Neil Degrasse Tyson at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (OssQ4)

517 Least Valuable Persecutor:

Binger or Kraus?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (JcqA0)

518 http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=396365#Bot
Quick hits, but no one is there

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (2JoB8)

519 WTF is a steak-um?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (o2MD2)

520 I'm confused.
Posted by: Javems at November 10, 2021 06:10 PM (uha8u)

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (v0R5T)

521 Cafe 2 went bye-bye?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (mD/uy)

522
"I felt a great disturbance in the Blog, as if millions of snarky comments suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (/U27+)

523 Posted by: Neil Degrasse Tyson at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (OssQ4)

Get back to the ticket booth. The black hole show is about to start.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (guGkK)

524 We need a head count of how many got out of the disappearing quick hits thread.

Sound off, everyone! No moron left behind.

Posted by: Hands at November 10, 2021 06:14 PM (786Ro)

525 Prosecutor continually asked why Rittenhouse felt he had to take his rifle with him to go put out the fires. Why would he not leave a loaded, expensive firearm on the street where he didn't know anyone.
????

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause you're not at November 10, 2021 06:14 PM (yFOIQ)

526 Kraus is a fat bully.
Little Binger is pure evil

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 10, 2021 06:14 PM (ufFY8)

527 Everything just disappeared upstairs.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 06:14 PM (NpAcC)

528 Learning that some here have criticized Steak-Ums bothers me as much as anything.

Posted by: Not a Dime to Spare at November 10, 2021 06:14 PM (touVE)

529 WTF is a steak-um?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (o2MD2)



It's a meat-like substance for people who can't afford real meat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 10, 2021 06:14 PM (guGkK)

530 514
Everyone call Ace "boomer" when it comes back.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 06:12 PM (OAYzD)
---------

So, you know all five verses of Ewok love.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 10, 2021 06:14 PM (MGjUO)

531 I see dead people...

Posted by: Neil deTyson Chicken at November 10, 2021 06:15 PM (Xrfse)

532 521 Cafe 2 went bye-bye?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (mD/uy)

Don't wanna be a fool for you,
just another player in this game for two...
-N-Sync or Backstreet Boys?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 10, 2021 06:15 PM (kBuGL)

533 518 http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=396365#Bot
Quick hits, but no one is there
Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (2JoB

I was... Came back and it was gone

Posted by: It's me donna at November 10, 2021 06:15 PM (0PUU9)

534 @471

I was amused when I realized that a bad guy super power in Black Widow was, essentially, BO.

I found the movie to be not necessarily great, but fun.

Posted by: junior at November 10, 2021 06:15 PM (m+fuX)

535 It's a meat-like substance for people who can't afford real meat.

So....spam?

Posted by: Bosk at November 10, 2021 06:15 PM (x6uUk)

536 -N-Sync or Backstreet Boys?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

You're not really 29, are you?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 10, 2021 06:15 PM (mD/uy)

537 Neither Binger or Kraus could get a real job flipping burgers, so they work for the government.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (JcqA0)

538 We've angered Ace.

You know what you all did.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (XvPQV)

539 Well, they have enough signatures to recall Chesa Boudin.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (NpAcC)

540 BO?

Barack Obama?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (ufFY8)

541 519 WTF is a steak-um?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 06:13 PM (o2MD2)

The Kaboom of shaved steak.

Posted by: fringe at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (FPur3)

542 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE STEAK-UMMs ARE A FAST FOOD AND THEY PWNED NEIL JACKASSE TYSON WHO IS A PERSON

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (786Ro)

543 Spam has a far higher salt content

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (JcqA0)

544 RE-NOOD

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (guGkK)

545 Tonypete, partaking and enjoying your Bourbon selection. Thank You

Posted by: Ben Had at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (xOvFO)

546 I was just replying that no, Steak Umms guy didn't forget to switch accounts. He gets into it with Neil all the time, and it's always good. The company likes the publicity, too.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (OssQ4)

547 538 We've angered Ace.

You know what you all did.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (XvPQV)

Criticize steak-ums ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (0PUU9)

548 So....spam?
----

But fake beef, rather than fake ham.

If you want frozen shaved ribeye, the asian markets are a surprisingly good bet.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 10, 2021 06:17 PM (sGnvY)

549 We've angered Ace.

You know what you all did.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (XvPQV)

Criticize steak-ums ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (0PUU9)

*nods*

The one sin that cannot be forgiven.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 10, 2021 06:17 PM (XvPQV)

550 Maybe Ace got trapped in his time machine

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 06:17 PM (2JoB8)

551 524 We need a head count of how many got out of the disappearing quick hits thread.

Sound off, everyone! No moron left behind.
Posted by: Hands at November 10, 2021 06:14 PM (786Ro)


Hoooah

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 06:17 PM (0ryfU)

552 Geese come from barnacles. The Science is settled.

Posted by: f'd Famous Moments in Science at November 10, 2021 06:17 PM (Tnijr)

553
The other "news" today is youtube is deleting Dislikes to "protect" "small" channels.

"Small" channels such as CDC, CNN, MSNBC, etc.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 06:17 PM (OAYzD)

554 543 Spam has a far higher salt content
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (JcqA0)

They make a reduced salt spam now. Good. nearly as good as sardines with chocolate sauce.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 06:18 PM (o2MD2)

555
Nood is back.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at November 10, 2021 06:18 PM (OAYzD)

556 It's a meat-like substance for people who can't afford real meat.

Sure. But Fried Bologna is a fucking classic.

Virtue Signals exist on both sides of the aisle.

Posted by: Not a Dime to Spare at November 10, 2021 06:18 PM (touVE)

557 I've seen it at the store. Always wanted to try it and make a philly cheese steak with it but just haven't....yet.

Posted by: Bosk at November 10, 2021 06:18 PM (x6uUk)

558 553
The other "news" today is youtube is deleting Dislikes to "protect" "small" channels.

"Small" channels such as CDC, CNN, MSNBC, etc.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I like that YouTube is looking out for the little guy.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 10, 2021 06:19 PM (OssQ4)

559 You know what you all did.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 10, 2021 06:16 PM (XvPQV)

-----

Probably has more to do with what we didn't do....

And we all know what that is!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 10, 2021 06:20 PM (ZwxDF)

560 464 The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse will set precedent for re-establishing the long held American tradition that it is right & proper to shoot rioters, arsonists, and looters.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2021 05:43 PM (DUIap)-------

Not to mention attempted murderers ... intent on murdering you or others.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 10, 2021 05:57 PM
I agree. However, if Kyle Rittenhouse is acquitted (think Zimmerman), violence in the cities will be worse than previous city-burning. Because.

Posted by: Eromero at November 10, 2021 06:21 PM (0OP+5)

561 Quick Hits 2 is back up top

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 06:21 PM (2JoB8)

562 I like how the prosecution's argument is, "if you intended to pull the trigger, that's murder-- not self-defense."

He's saying you can only legally defend yourself accidentally.
But if you intend to respond to threats with deadly force--that's murder.

This prosecutor belongs in prison with all the other innocent men he's convicted.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 10, 2021 06:21 PM (jIL4c)

563 I am not calling for somebody to catch Binger in a dark alley and beat the crap out of him, I would never endorse violence. What I am saying, is that if somebody did do that, I would understand why.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 10, 2021 06:22 PM (3FShG)

564 562 I like how the prosecution's argument is, "if you intended to pull the trigger, that's murder-- not self-defense."

He's saying you can only legally defend yourself accidentally.
But if you intend to respond to threats with deadly force--that's murder.

This prosecutor belongs in prison with all the other innocent men he's convicted.
Posted by: Lrrr at November 10, 2021 06:21 PM (jIL4c)

And he's mad because the judge is not following the script.

Posted by: Marybeth in Florida at November 10, 2021 06:25 PM (4pK1/)

565 563 I am not calling for somebody to catch Binger in a dark alley and beat the crap out of him, I would never endorse violence. What I am saying, is that if somebody did do that, I would understand why.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 10, 2021 06:22 PM (3FShG)

That's a terrible thing to say!

Posted by: Just Lily at November 10, 2021 06:37 PM (RLLZj)

566 The media see their ratings are in the shitter, so they are going to gin up more riots when Kyle is rightfully set free. They don't care what businesses they destroy or if anyone else gets killed by it, they just want more violence so their numbers go up. These are no longer journalist, they are completely distorting all information to provoke the idiots that watch them. Some enterprising law firm needs to start adding media companies for this, and attempting to show that any journalistic protections shouldn't cover not only what amounts to slander (of Kyle) but also the provocation of violence.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 10, 2021 07:14 PM (CNgYK)

567 By that logic, there's no such thing as attempted rape, either. Maybe the guy would have stopped at the last minute and cuddled. After all, you don't know until it actually happens, right?

Posted by: vivi at November 10, 2021 07:20 PM (+F+Xg)

568 Littlefinger Binger... I'll never get that out of my head anymore! Binger is acting like some sort of tyrant so the name definitely fits!
So Littlefinger's attempts at mistrial yesterday didn't work out so well with the judge, so he's just going for Twitter exoneration of his attempts to prosecute KR. This guy seriously needs to be removed from his office. I'm sure he's backed by Soros money so it will take some serious efforts to oust him in Kenosha.

Posted by: Janir at November 10, 2021 08:10 PM (7FTeO)

569 T- 40 seconds

Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2021 09:03 PM (AMIL/)

570 "410 Rittenhouse isn't on trial for defending himself against these guys. He's on trial because the shooting ended a state-sanctioned riot."

I would love to see the mayor, police chief, et al asked about that. Why was it allowed to continue? Why is Rittenhouse the only one being procicuted? How may from out if town? The multi day riots precipitated the deaths as well as the actions of the local and state governments.

If anyone should be on trial it is them!


"Ex wife" I forgot about that. LoL

Posted by: Mattnw42 at November 10, 2021 10:22 PM (mW7ea)

571 Recall Littlefinger.

Posted by: FatAlbert at November 10, 2021 11:46 PM (c/0cj)

572 I have a theory.

Assume, for the sake of argument, that the prosecution team is a group of decent lawyers who know what's going on, and aren't, as it seems, unfamiliar with things like courtroom rules and the Fifth Amendment.

My theory is that they've come to a "gentlemen's agreement" with the defense. They know their case sucks, they know that Kyle will be found Not Guilty, and they also know that the jurors will be in danger because of it. In order to mitigate that danger, they're throwing the trial. If the judge is forced to declare a mistrial with prejudice, then there's no reason for people to attack the jurors, and the jurors would even be free to give interviews and say that they were leaning toward "guilty" votes.

People will riot against the court and the city, of course, but that's going to happen anyway, regardless of the verdict. This way, they can at least protect the jury and their families.

Anyway, it's the only explanation that makes sense to me. The only other possibility is that Littlefinger has never been in a courtroom before, and probably hasn't even attended law school in the United States.

Posted by: DavidD at November 11, 2021 08:46 AM (/Gxq+)

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