Contextualize Everything, Part II: Government/Press [Joe Mannix]

Rounding out the series on viewing reported figures and arguments suspiciously, identifying gaps and trying to fill them in, let’s look at a government initiative as reported by a local paper.

Let’s pick a local (though large, and in a large locality) matter with fairly straightforward facts. This example comes from San Francisco, as reported in the Examiner (via archive.is) and is about the “homeless crisis” in that city.

Mayor London Breed is proposing more than $1 billion in new funding to address homelessness over the next two years -- a staggering amount that she hopes will finally make a dent in San Francisco's most vexing problem.

That proposal, announced Tuesday as part of her wider plan for the city's upcoming $13.1 billion budget, is on top of the $300 million or so already spent directly on homelessness each year.

It's unclear how many homeless people there are in San Francisco, but the number has certainly swelled over the past few years. The city's official count in 2019 logged more than 8,000 homeless, a 30% rise from two years prior. Other counts have suggested there may be as many as 17,000 homeless in the city.

The claim: spending dramatically more money will help the city’s homelessness problem and is the right thing to do.

Let’s see what facts we have available. I’ll include some more numbers in this, but they all come from the article unless otherwise noted. Basic facts:
• The city spends $364 million per year directly on homelessness (a lot more than the stated “$300 million or so” in the upper part of the article)
• The city budget is $13.1 billion
• The city will add a billion more dollars over two years
• There are 8,035 official homeless and 17,000 potential homeless
◦ This is between 0.9% and 1.9% of San Francisco’s total population of 888,549 people per the Census Bureau.
• The recent growth rate of homelessness is 14% in two years
• Spending on the homeless grew by more than 80% since 2016

So the two-year total will be $1.728 billion, assuming no budget growth and that revenue projections are correct. The average annual total will be $864 million. The total homeless at the start of the first year will be between 8,035 and 17,000. At the end of the second year, it will between 9,160 and 19,380 assuming that growth rates are both correct and hold steady. Let’s be pessimistic and use the second-year numbers for the entire analysis because it’s easier, though the per-capita totals will deflate a bit.

So let’s add some context. Using the official homeless population and assuming 14% growth, that comes to a whopping $94,323 per person per year. Using the larger unofficial number, that’s $44,582 per person per year. The two-year total is of course double that. But what would it be without this billion dollar increase? It would be, of course, a lot less: between $39,737 and $18,782 per person per year, depending on which homeless population estimate you use.

So now we have it individual terms, before and after - but what about additional context? How poor is poor? How does this spending compare to people with incomes? According to the Census Bureau, the per-capita income in San Francisco in 2019 was $68,883 and the median household income was $112,449. Somewhat helpful, but what about in terms of our current and new spending levels? Of the 365,851 households in San Francisco, the Census Bureau estimates that:
• ~38.3% of all households earn between $10k and $100k
• ~19.9% of all households earn between $10k and $50k
• ~14.1% of all households earn between $10k and $35k
• ~9.9% of all households earn between $10k and $25k

So it’s a big increase, from a big base figure. The highest per-capita figure (“new spending per official homeless person” ) puts that homeless person near the 40% level of household income in the city. The lowest per-capita figure (“current spending per potential homeless person” ) puts that homeless person at around 10% equivalent.

It is important, however, to also keep in mind that this is not all the money involved. This is just “direct spending” on the homeless. There are other programs - drug and substance abuse programs, food assistance programs, housing assistance programs and various other welfare programs - that are not included in this total.

What they want you to think: We need a lot more money to deal with the homelessness problem, and we’re doing the right thing by spending an additional billion dollars (or 137% more) than we do today.

What the context adds: Compared to the working poor in San Francisco, current spending levels mean that the homeless already receive more than the bottom 10% of wage earners in the city who earn more than $10k, and potentially more than perhaps 15%. With the proposed new levels, the homeless will receive an amount of money that puts them above at least the lowest ~15% of wage earners, and potentially above the bottom ~38% of wage earners in the city. This is a staggering sum and becomes extremely (to borrow a Lefty word) problematic.

The proposal is to spend on the potentially ~2% of the people who are homeless an amount that would make them equivalent to the low or low-middle wage earners in San Francisco – at a minimum. Moreover, this would represent 6.6% of the total city budget, to be spent on no more than ~2% of the city population. All of this is just on direct spending and does not take into account any other assistance. The direct spending for the homeless has been increasingly dramatically since 2016, while the homeless population has skyrocketed.

A better-informed conclusion: The amounts of money we’re talking about are truly staggering and do not represent effective investment or government assistance. Such overspending is fiscally irresponsible, unfair to the working people (and especially the working poor) and, based on the already-generous levels of homeless spending in San Francisco, the ever-increasing homelessness problem is unlikely to be solved by elevating the spending even further.

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1 Howdy!

Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 05:16 PM (mZUr4)

2 Good content, Joe - - thanks!

Otters called

Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 05:17 PM (mZUr4)

3 Looks suspiciously like math!

Posted by: spindrift at November 24, 2021 05:18 PM (h5TKJ)

4 Must be dinner time -- roomy in here!

Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2021 05:18 PM (mZUr4)

5 Not first.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 24, 2021 05:19 PM (bVYXr)

6
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 24, 2021 05:19 PM (DUIap)

7 Hey Alton Jackson!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:20 PM (nxdel)

8 The homeless in San Francisco just need to infiltrate those flash shoplifting mobs. With all the Louie Vuitton accessories they would accumulate, they'll be set for life.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 24, 2021 05:20 PM (TNyrE)

9 1000000000/2=500000000

500000000/8000=62500 per person per year

San Francisco median income=135,000

Amazing

Posted by: sven at November 24, 2021 05:20 PM (Lzpvj)

10 Just fix it by throwing other people's money at it. The "progressive" answer to everything.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2021 05:21 PM (Xrfse)

11 "Mayor London Breed is proposing more than $1 billion in new funding to address homelessness over the next two years -- a staggering amount that she hopes will finally make a dent in San Francisco's most vexing problem."


So they have already spent billions to address the homeless issue and they think tossing another billion at the problem will finally fix it?


Where is my ID10T form?

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 24, 2021 05:21 PM (bVYXr)

12 Demorats have no problem spending 100% of your money.

Posted by: f'd at November 24, 2021 05:21 PM (Tnijr)

13 Just Spending More Money Solves Everything.

(Just ask any school board or teacher.)

Posted by: Snake Spirit at November 24, 2021 05:21 PM (CdZ4i)

14 What always kills me is a normal person could help a homeless person pretty well with say, $5,000. But the govt needs $50,000 to give a homeless person piss poor service.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 24, 2021 05:21 PM (7cRTM)

15 Compared to the working poor in San Francisco, current spending levels mean that the homeless already receive more than the bottom 10% of wage earners in the city who earn more than $10k, and potentially more than perhaps 15%. With the proposed new levels, the homeless will receive an amount of money that puts them above at least the lowest ~15% of wage earners, and potentially above the bottom ~38% of wage earners in the city. This is a staggering sum and becomes extremely (to borrow a Lefty word) problematic.

They aren't giving money to the homeless though, are they? I'm assuming the money goes towards beefing up "services" or creating new "programs."

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2021 05:21 PM (Ez6QX)

16 g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 24, 2021 05:19 PM (DUIap)


I *wish* it was evening. 2:23 and still at work.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2021 05:23 PM (Ez6QX)

17 My daughter just told me I'm insufferable. lmao.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:23 PM (nxdel)

18 Such overspending is fiscally irresponsible, unfair to the working people....


Yet that's who they vote into office. Perhaps they should stop doing that. Just a thought.

Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 05:23 PM (ZsR3z)

19 *comes to the thread looking for T&A, all excited*
*Sees there's no T&A*

"FUCK...."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 05:23 PM (XvPQV)

20 It's unclear how many homeless people there are in San Francisco, but the number has certainly swelled over the past few years.
........

No wonder Nutzi just bought a mansion in Florida.
Her work (in SF) is done!

Posted by: wth at November 24, 2021 05:24 PM (v0R5T)

21 Colorado should solve their homeless problem (OMG we don't have enough beds on cold nights) by handing out tickets to SanFran to the homeless.

This insanity is why people start to think a totalitarian regime that would scoop up the homeless and send them to siberian work camps. Maybe North Dakota work camps in our country? might be better than having to run a gantlet of crazy drugged up hobos to do daily life stuff.

Posted by: paleRider at November 24, 2021 05:24 PM (3cGpq)

22 The product put out by the homeless is shit, and as we all know shit ain't worth...shit. Not in California anyway.

Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2021 05:24 PM (0OP+5)

23 And if you wrote a character like 'London Breed' in a novel 10 years ago, you'd be called racist and unimaginative.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 05:24 PM (XvPQV)

24 The poor will always be with us as a result of circumstances beyond their control.
The grifter class will always be with us as a result of gov't fuckery.

Posted by: Idahonian at November 24, 2021 05:25 PM (JUcCg)

25 No wonder Nutzi just bought a mansion in Florida.
Her work (in SF) is done!
Posted by: wth at November 24, 2021 05:24 PM (v0R5T)


Why would she want to live in the shithole she helped create?

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2021 05:25 PM (Ez6QX)

26 Lot of beak-dipping though, so the amount going to directly benefit the supposed beneficiaries is significant lesser.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 24, 2021 05:26 PM (OuILz)

27 If they're not cutting checks to the homeless, the situation is even worse than portrayed. Most, if not all this money is being used to justify various bureaucratic budgets, and also going to some NPEs where there's no strict accounting for it all.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 24, 2021 05:26 PM (wNDOJ)

28 Hahahaha

Army kidnapped the wrong goat.

Dumbasses.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 24, 2021 05:26 PM (CtYFa)

29 The point was never actually helping the homeless. The point is to subsidize mental illness, make American cities unlivable, provide slush funds for Democrats, and have a ready supply of criminals/ terrorists to kill patriots with.

Posted by: trev006 at November 24, 2021 05:26 PM (Eqkqm)

30 SF expects to solve the homeless problem by spending more on the homeless? On what planet does this make any sense?

Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 05:27 PM (SH2Zi)

31
Paulie needs his vig.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 05:27 PM (/U27+)

32 We call it the HIC - Homeless Industrial Complex. Tent of Dreams - if we fund if they will come. Btw, London Breed's brother is in prison for murder. A few years ago, our long-time Public Defender, Jeff Adachi, died of a heart attack at his mistress's place after a night of drinking and doing blow. The corruption in public works and planning is so bad, the FBI actually investigates left wingers here. (inorite?) If you want the real poop (not the lousy homeless kind) wait for Fransycho. OTOH, there are some success stories - i took a homeless girl in back in January and she's purring on me right now. Meow!

Posted by: SFGoth at November 24, 2021 05:28 PM (KAi1n)

33 Turning the Homeless into Green Energy is the only sensible solution.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 05:28 PM (bRk5z)

34 SF has 8000 homeless.
They spend $350 million to fix the homeless problem.
At the end of the year, SF has 8000 homeless.

Conclusion, we need to spend more money next year.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 05:28 PM (9HRiP)

35 I just downloaded King Harv' app for my wifi fridge.

Posted by: Max Power at November 24, 2021 05:28 PM (Hucnr)

36 Give all the homeless tickets to see Tony! Toni! Toné!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 24, 2021 05:29 PM (63Dwl)

37 All fine and good.. but where is the 10% for the big guy?

Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at November 24, 2021 05:29 PM (53oGX)

38 You want more homeless? Raise the dole.

Rinse. repeat.


How much do charity relatives of the elected skim off that number? 80 percent or more?

Posted by: Henry at November 24, 2021 05:29 PM (O5by/)

39 >>*comes to the thread looking for T&A, all excited*
*Sees there's no T&A*


You wanted Tits and Ass

You would have settled for Tits OR Ass

You get MATH

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 05:30 PM (bRk5z)

40 They aren't giving money to the homeless though, are they? I'm assuming the money goes towards beefing up "services" or creating new "programs."
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2021 05:21 PM (Ez6QX)

This.
Not like they're cutting each of the homeless a check.

Posted by: sal at November 24, 2021 05:30 PM (bJKUl)

41 Works for us!

Posted by: The San Francisco Homeless-Industrial Complex! at November 24, 2021 05:30 PM (I2/tG)

42 Most of the money doesn't go to "the homeless". It goes to provide sinecures for activist bureaucrats.

Same for all government social programs.

Posted by: Toad-O at November 24, 2021 05:31 PM (cct0t)

43 SF expects to solve the homeless problem by spending more on the homeless? On what planet does this make any sense?
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 05:27 PM (SH2Zi)

On planet RU-f'nkidnme. Found in the Welfarius system.

Posted by: wth at November 24, 2021 05:31 PM (v0R5T)

44 In all seriousness, I think we know what these big spending proposals are by now... gifts to donors, or more directly laundering of taxpayer money back to government employees.
All of this mess gets set up under perimeters where the vendors will already be known... sure, they call it bidding out but it's set up where only certain suppliers can possibly qualify. Then money gets spread around.

Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at November 24, 2021 05:32 PM (53oGX)

45 Unlikely to be solved is an understatement. They're going to wonder where all the *new* homeless are coming from.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 24, 2021 05:32 PM (yJDo5)

46 Spend more on the homeless. Will only get you more homeless. Really a sweet gig. 100k for nothing. Why would anybody homeless not go to sf. Not hustle the Street corner and the drive home homeless but drug addict mentally ill homeless.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 24, 2021 05:32 PM (0OmEj)

47 >>> If they're not cutting checks to the homeless, the situation is even worse than portrayed. Most, if not all this money is being used to justify various bureaucratic budgets, and also going to some NPEs where there's no strict accounting for it all.

No doubt there will be some new bureaucrats earning close to $200K.

Posted by: fluffy at November 24, 2021 05:32 PM (x87fI)

48 BLACK FRIDAY! WOO HOO!

was going to buy something a week before, wife said wait, saved 33%!

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:33 PM (K3ZCc)

49 That money is not going to the homeless.

Posted by: Max Power at November 24, 2021 05:33 PM (4QLoy)

50 Looking at the Dem's strategy the last year, their plan was to pass a huge multi-trillion dollar bill with handouts to everyone, then they thought everyone would be glad at all the free money and vote them in even more - easy! But it got split in half and they fought, and what planners wanted to do in 3 months took a year, and they only passed a fraction of it that the GOP-e wanted. (yeah, pure grift, of course, but nothing like what they wanted to do.)

Meanwhile the big giverway looks more and more like it's dead every day. And now inflation is kicking up, and problems are setting in, and it's already too late to re-set the narrative for the 2022 election cycle.

Even they know that they're Fucked. The fun part for is is now all the infighting sets in. (See the Kamala situation, frex) They're going to rip themselves to shreds, they can't help doing it. It's who they are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 05:33 PM (trdmm)

51 Of the $300 million budget, $295 million was for rent on the downtown office space for the department of homelessness.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 05:34 PM (9HRiP)

52 Say you drop a billion dollars on solving the homeless problem?

What's the return on that investment?

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 05:34 PM (bRk5z)

53 >Unlikely to be solved is an understatement.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 24, 2021 05:32 PM (yJDo5)

Lot of money in ensuring the problem never gets solved.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 24, 2021 05:35 PM (OuILz)

54 Here, onto the content

Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2021 05:35 PM (2JoB8)

55 That money is not going to the homeless.

No, it's not. Just lining someones pocket.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:35 PM (nxdel)

56 Jim Bognet, a former Mitt Romney staffer turned Congressional candidate who is backed by disgraced anti-Trump Republican Liz Cheney posted a photoshopped image of himself beside the 45th President in a seemingly desperate effort to tie his own bid for office to the extremely popular Donald Trump, who his own backers and bosses tried to remove from office.

More Romney scum floating to the top.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 24, 2021 05:36 PM (DiVy8)

57 Just give the 8000 homeless a bus ticket to anywhere they want to go in exchange for $100,000 and contract they will not return. That would be less than a billion.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM (wp7uW)

58 The San Francisco Chronicle had a lengthy series a few years ago called "Faces of Homelessness" or something similar. The stories were tragic, but what was noticeable was that every homeless person profiled was from somewhere else. They had all moved to San Francisco, knowing that San Francisco was a good place to be homeless.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM (I2/tG)

59 btw, if you need some outerwear beynd clthing is stitched in America, has very good stuff, and a very good warranty.

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM (K3ZCc)

60 That money is not going to the homeless.

No, it's not. Just lining someones pocket.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:35 PM (nxdel)

And any marginal improvement in homeless services and accommodation would result in more homeless. They've blown right past the idea that coddling/subsidizing bad behavior makes a problem worse.

Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM (SH2Zi)

61 Posted by: SFGoth at November 24, 2021 05:28 PM (KAi1n)

Giver PrettyGirl some luvs from me!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 05:38 PM (KrMCC)

62 It appears that commie Saule Omarova's bid to be Biden's comptroller of the currency is mort. 5 Dem Senators worried about reelection doing the right thing have told the WH they're opposed to her nom. They are Tester, Hickenlooper, Kelly, Warner and Sinema.

https://tinyurl.com/48acyt5c

Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 05:38 PM (ZsR3z)

63 send the homlss to guatemala

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:38 PM (K3ZCc)

64

The could put the homeless to work on a North Carolina peanut farm.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0519152

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 24, 2021 05:38 PM (63Dwl)

65 You wanted Tits and Ass

You would have settled for Tits OR Ass

You get MATH
Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 05:30 PM (bRk5z)

While my guitar softly weeps...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 05:39 PM (XvPQV)

66 Lot of money in ensuring the problem never gets solved.

The homeless-industrial complex in San Francisco is a real thing - they have enough money and power to have substantial political clout in the city.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 05:39 PM (I2/tG)

67 A vast majority of the homeless are either substance abusers or mentally ill or both. It would far more humane and palatable to round them up and institutionalize them. The ones who abuse but are not mentally ill potentially be reformed into productive citizens.

Posted by: Archer at November 24, 2021 05:39 PM (gmo/4)

68 Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 05:38 PM (ZsR3z)

Fantastic!!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:39 PM (nxdel)

69 there is no $ in fixing homlssnss

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:39 PM (K3ZCc)

70 San Francisco where you can shit on the sidewalk and get more benefits every year. Come for the free shit and the hobo lifestyle.
Stay for the prestige.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 24, 2021 05:39 PM (0OmEj)

71 But as I always contend these programs a good percentage is sucked up by bureaucracy. But no doubt even a %15 takeoff if not more it's well funded

Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2021 05:40 PM (2JoB8)

72 Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 05:38 PM (ZsR3z)

Fantastic!!
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:39 PM (nxdel)

That's okay. He just nominated another racist Lefty to head the OMB.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM (wp7uW)

73 So GoFundMe is allowing a bail fund for the Satanic BLM Shitbag in Waukesha. After denying the same for KR.

As we all knew they would.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM (+gr8S)

74 The San Francisco Chronicle had a lengthy series a few years ago called "Faces of Homelessness" or something similar. The stories were tragic, but what was noticeable was that every homeless person profiled was from somewhere else. They had all moved to San Francisco, knowing that San Francisco was a good place to be homeless.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM


I have personally known at least a dozen homeless people over the years and each and every single one of them was homeless by choice.


Drug and alcohol abuse were the #1 reason they were homeless and couldn't keep a job and they all admitted it. They all had choices to not be homeless but they chose to not to change their situation because they would have to quit doing the drugs/alcohol.


You can't help someone who wont help themselves.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM (bVYXr)

75 "The claim: spending dramatically more money will help the city's homelessness problem and is the right thing to do."

The claim: throwing more french fries at seagulls will reduce the number of seagulls swarming you.

The only people that think this will actually help are fucking retarded, and their main contribution in life is being a bullet point in arguments against universal voting rights.

And the people actually responsible for this know exactly what it's going to accomplish. It's a multi-faceted method to create problems to "solve", facilitate graft, punish opponents and generally help raise the drawbridge, so to speak - furthering their neo-feudalist goals.

The homeless aren't bums because they're homeless, they're homeless because they're bums. This is one of the harshest lessons for younger people to figure out. As a society we could afford to help anyone who wants to stand on their feet to do so, and can afford support for the mentally ill. The bums are aren't willing to stand, and the left isn't willing to target those that are or properly support those that can't because they're intentionally destructive evil twats.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM (P69fT)

76 But as I always contend these programs a good percentage is sucked up by bureaucracy. But no doubt even a %15 takeoff if not more it's well funded


so there is some $ for child protective services that is not going to the children?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM (K3ZCc)

77 The could put the homeless to work on a North Carolina peanut farm.
.......

I also heard somewhere about a canal that needs building.

Posted by: wth at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM (v0R5T)

78 The claim: throwing more french fries at seagulls will reduce the number of seagulls swarming you.

Perhaps if you put them up in luxury hotels in between bouts of begging / assaulting?

Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 05:43 PM (ZsR3z)

79 Closing mental facilities was a HUGE mistake.

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 05:44 PM (pA4Ca)

80 I'm not fooled for a second. This is math. I've run the numbers.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 05:44 PM (wAnMi)

81 A homeless person amusing themselves in Portland:

https://www.reddit.com/r/
Portland/comments/r0sr26/rock_thrower_off_glisan/

The person whose car was hit called 911. It took the cops more than a day to get back to her.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 05:45 PM (I2/tG)

82 >>> The claim: throwing more french fries at seagulls will reduce the number of seagulls swarming you.

And I flew, I flew so far away

Posted by: A Flock of Seagulls at November 24, 2021 05:45 PM (x87fI)

83 We are also at the point where you have to acknowledge that this urban/societal destruction is the result of commies that have been commie-ing for decades. Many of them still alive literally got their start under Comintern and related groups. All of this was intentional. They have been waging war on us since before many of us in here were born.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 24, 2021 05:45 PM (P69fT)

84 "The person whose car was hit called 911. It took the cops more than a day to get back to her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 05:45 PM (I2/tG)"

Shoot, Skeddle, shut up. Calling the cops is worthless.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 24, 2021 05:46 PM (P69fT)

85 $95,000 is a lot of money. More than I make as a high level software engineer, in fact. Is this SF homeless gig taking applications, or is it more of a, ahm, walk-on sort of thing?

Posted by: CppThis at November 24, 2021 05:46 PM (UewuT)

86 I always liked Sam Kinison's plan to solve the "homeless" problem.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 24, 2021 05:46 PM (R/m4+)

87 there is no $ in fixing homlssnss
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:39 PM (K3ZCc)


But they are a very good market for meth and fentanyl

Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2021 05:46 PM (P9T5R)

88 When will they admit that increasing spending on homeless programs just attracts more homeless from other areas of the country?

Posted by: Liberty at November 24, 2021 05:47 PM (i6gGH)

89 So...if SanFran does provide housing, gratis, to its current homeless horde of Vandals and Drug-Goths, how will that prevent an even larger wave of homeless from across the country to descend on SanFran, to get-in on the free goodies and the freedom to loot, sh!it in the streets, bust into every parked car in sight, and moar!

Terrific plan.

Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2021 05:48 PM (AMIL/)

90
Politician A: We've spent a shot ton of money on homelessness and the homeless population is increasing. Maybe we should rethink what we're doing.

Politician B:

Politician A: Yeah, I know. Fuck that!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 24, 2021 05:48 PM (kTF2Z)

91 When will they admit that increasing spending on homeless programs just attracts more homeless from other areas of the country?

Posted by: Liberty at November 24, 2021 05:47 PM (i6gGH)

They won't. It's graft, and the true-believer foot soldiers are all in on the Kool-Aid.

Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 05:48 PM (SH2Zi)

92 Adding some context: I got two little jobs done today. Hung a bifold door in my guest bathroom linen closet, and hoed and raked all the remaining weeds in my back yard.

So I am having a Shiner Bock to celebrate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 05:49 PM (P3gRi)

93 >>> When will they admit that increasing spending on homeless programs just attracts more homeless from other areas of the country?

Never. They will give you a blank stare for a bit and then call you a racist.

Posted by: A Flock of Civil Servants at November 24, 2021 05:49 PM (x87fI)

94 You know.


When I look at the homeless, one thing stands out to me above all else : Diversity.

If any one group has it, it is the homeless.

I was also to understand that Diversity is the solution to life's problems.

As such. I feel like the homeless have a leg up on the rest of us.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 05:50 PM (VMdAu)

95 They are arresting Mom's that show up at school board meetings in Gwinett County GA.

https://gettr.com/post/phrfz07d46

But remember, back the blue right?

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 24, 2021 05:51 PM (DiVy8)

96 You can't help someone who wont help themselves.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM (bVYXr)

Yawp.

You cannot save people. You can, sometimes, help someone save themselves.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 05:52 PM (XvPQV)

97 People who are that wealthy shouldn't be defecating in the street.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2021 05:52 PM (KOlLu)

98 They aren't giving money to the homeless though, are they? I'm assuming the money goes towards beefing up "services" or creating new "programs."
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2021 05:21 PM (Ez6QX)

Yep. They will hire several thousand new "Commissars of Homeless Hand-wringing" at $135k per annum per flunky.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 05:52 PM (P3gRi)

99 The San Francisco Chronicle had a lengthy series a few years ago called "Faces of Homelessness" or something similar. The stories were tragic, but what was noticeable was that every homeless person profiled was from somewhere else. They had all moved to San Francisco, knowing that San Francisco was a good place to be homeless. Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM (I2/tG)

It's exactly the same as throwing a piece of popcorn out for a pigeon. Who in their right minds think it's only going to be one pigeon 30 seconds from now?

Also funny the left is the first to scream "that's anecdotal" if you've got examples, when they're the first to throw that shit in your face. I drive the bay area as part of my jerb, peninsula to east bay. Over just the past 3 years, the tent cities have popped up like fucking mushrooms. Now that San Jose invaded my town, there's tents along the freeway here too. We never had homeless just 5 years ago. Ok, there were the "2", with the same stories in the same spots. One guy was getting bus fair to go home for 3 years. Now, the local Safeway had to remove their picnic tables from in front, because they became instant shelter.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 05:52 PM (wAnMi)

100 You can't help someone who wont help themselves.

Yeah, people who are homeless for economic reasons in Portland get housed pretty quickly, due to various social welfare programs.

The long-term homeless are either insane or addicts.

Official Dogma in Portland veers between two contradictory claims: 1) all homeless people in Portland are from here, and 2) localities across the country buy the homeless bus tickets to Portland.

In fact, the homeless know perfectly well that Portland is a good place to be homeless, and if you can afford meth, you can afford a bus ticket to Portland.

The voters of the State of Oregon, in their infinite wisdom, decriminalized all drugs (thanks, Soros!), so it is now perfectly legal to shoot up or smoke meth in public. People are shocked, shocked to discover that this has resulted in a new wave of drug addicts moving to Portland.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 05:53 PM (I2/tG)

101 >>Hahahaha

Army kidnapped the wrong goat.

Dumbasses.
Posted by: nurse ratched

We didn't want to get stuck with the ugly one.

Posted by: Some Cadet at November 24, 2021 05:53 PM (HQ9Sl)

102 57 Just give the 8000 homeless a bus ticket to anywhere they want to go in exchange for $100,000 and contract they will not return. That would be less than a billion.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM
Don't give them anything but a 'ride' out to the desert and tell them the penalty for coming back is death. Too harsh?

Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2021 05:53 PM (0OP+5)

103 Confused about the homeless mess?
Create a mess.
Demand money to fix it.
Steal/squander the money.
Also works in public schools.
Public transportation.

Posted by: Old grunt at November 24, 2021 05:53 PM (O3KIx)

104 You can get Black Friday stuff today. Just put whatever you want in your cart and if there's no discount, empty your cart and leave the website. Within an hour you will get an email from the site telling you to come back because that thing you were looking at is now 50% off!

Posted by: IrishEi at November 24, 2021 05:54 PM (7b2L9)

105 So are you all going to be engaging in the new Thanksgiving tradition of beers in the garage while waiting for everyone's rapid covid test results?

WTAF

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 05:54 PM (kBuGL)

106 I need a $5 million grant to study the effect SF homelessness has on sea level rise on the CA coast. I will spend the next year touring the coast in my yacht, i mean, taking measurements along the CA coast in my research vessel, and will report my results the following year.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 05:55 PM (9HRiP)

107 Plus as with schools and other government programs, that's what they spend on the program.

That's NOT what is received by the object of the program.

All those program operators and coordinators have to be paid. And a lot of them (most) are political hangers on of some sort who also do political work while getting paid to attend the "homeless".

And; no such thing as "homeless". What they are are people who either don't want to for whatever reason or can't maintain an income stream large enough and consistent enough to be allowed to rent or buy a property to live in. This also means they're family is somewhere else and/or has rejected them.

I've been homeless. It was a conjunction of circumstances that overwhelmed me but it could have been avoided (it hasn't happened since in 40 years).

(more)

Posted by: jakee308 at November 24, 2021 05:55 PM (hVoJQ)

108 Here in Texas, I think we should give every homeless person a brochure to Benefits in California and a one way bus ticket to either LA or San Fran. I would even be willing to give them a $500 bonus as they boarded the bus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2021 05:55 PM (trdmm)

109 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 24, 2021 05:56 PM (arJlL)

110 Enable the drug addict. Go ahead do it. Don't be surprised when hes dead by 40. My little brother died in the bay area. Homeless and drug addicted. He hung himself with a dog leash. Why did he go there? Because the thing to do is head west and soak up the lifestyle. Spit.


Note I felt guilt then because I couldn't stop him and wouldn't support him. Now I'm just sad and a bit angry.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 24, 2021 05:56 PM (0OmEj)

111 War on poverty.
War on drugs.
War on homelessness.

All "fought" the same, with the same results.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at November 24, 2021 05:56 PM (II3Gr)

112 Closing mental facilities was a HUGE mistake.
Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 05:44 PM (pA4Ca)
~~~~~

Absolutely. It probably accounts for upwards of 75% of the homeless.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 24, 2021 05:56 PM (7b2L9)

113 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_xDdpT4YwQ

Sam Kinison

NSFW

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 05:56 PM (pA4Ca)

114 You can get Black Friday stuff today. Just put whatever you want in your cart and if there's no discount, empty your cart and leave the website. Within an hour you will get an email from the site telling you to come back because that thing you were looking at is now 50% off!
Posted by: Ir



interesting

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:56 PM (K3ZCc)

115 You can get Black Friday stuff today. Just put whatever you want in your cart and Walk out the door.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 05:57 PM (9HRiP)

116 Hey JT!! *waves*

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:58 PM (nxdel)

117
There is a huge air gap betwwen "cause" and "effect" for Democrats. They're the ones who say, "Now, class, you can see that as I raise the temperature, the water freezes faster."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 05:58 PM (/U27+)

118 Good evening everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 05:58 PM (mD/uy)

119 Nice work, Joe.

I'd like the total broken down -- how many hopeless loons, and how many unfortunates (at whom the cameras are aimed to promote such overspending).

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 24, 2021 05:59 PM (Apbdw)

120 You can get Black Friday stuff today. Just put whatever you want in your cart and Walk out the door.

Offer not good in the following jurisdictions...

Posted by: Shoplifting, Inc! at November 24, 2021 05:59 PM (I2/tG)

121 You can get Black Friday stuff today. Just put whatever you want in your cart and Walk out the door.

I hate it when people do that to me.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:59 PM (nxdel)

122 Isn't bail usually only a percentage of total to be made up it person doesn't show up?
$5Mil on a gofundmysorryass with Leftists could raise twice that and Brooks could be out walking on the street

Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2021 05:59 PM (2JoB8)

123 There is a huge air gap betwwen "cause" and "effect" for Democrats. They're the ones who say, "Now, class, you can see that as I raise the temperature, the water freezes faster."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 05:58 PM (/U27+)

This new science is amazing! Now tell me again how sheep's bladders can be used to prevent earthquakes!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 05:59 PM (kBuGL)

124 San Jose Airport has this huge FAA clear zone so crashing planes have someplace to crash. Well, the bums decided to make a tent city there. The stories of "just trying to get on their feet" etc. from news outlets. Except it turned out they're all thieves and addicts. Local businesses were ruined, the bums breaking in or destroying everything. One guy had the catalytic convertor stolen from his delivery truck, got a rental while waiting for repairs, and they ripped off the rental's CC. After years of threats, the FAA gave SJ a timeline, so they went in and cleared it out. Wonder if it's slowly returning? I'd bet it is.

https://youtu.be/y5QdoYbdq34

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 05:59 PM (wAnMi)

125 Hiya Jewells !

Posted by: JT at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (arJlL)

126 Hey Tonypete!!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (nxdel)

127 102 57 Just give the 8000 homeless a bus ticket to anywhere they want to go in exchange for $100,000 and contract they will not return. That would be less than a billion.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM
Don't give them anything but a 'ride' out to the desert and tell them the penalty for coming back is death. Too harsh?
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2021 05:53 PM (0OP+5)

What's funny about this post is that something like this actually happened. Nevada was giving their local emotionally disturbed homeless population one-way bus tickets to California. CA finally sued NV, and settled the suit back in 2015. Turns out that CA does the same thing, and states give their homeless one-way bus tickets out of their state all the time.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (/E/BW)

128 So GoFundMe is allowing a bail fund for the Satanic BLM Shitbag in Waukesha. After denying the same for KR.

As we all knew they would.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM (+gr8S)

It'd be great if you could pose as Shitbag's lawyer, scoop all the money, and disappear.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (P3gRi)

129 Generally the homeless are that way because of drugs, crime (usually their own), mental illness. Or all of those with other minor points that can lead one to be out of pocket for rent or a job and no one around willing to help out.

Homeless don't want to do what's necessary to not be homeless. That the state helps them just makes it easier for others to get that way when they hear about it. What you subsidize you will get more of. That plus weather. I went homeless in New Hampshire at the start of spring. Believe you me, I got out of there and went where I could get myself out of my predicament as fast as possible. This is why homelessness appears in a few locations more than others due to weather, population (as donative targets) and state assistance. Where these are lacking or unfriendly == few homeless.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (hVoJQ)

130 Here in Texas, I think we should give every homeless person a brochure to Benefits in California and a one way bus ticket to either LA or San Fran. I would even be willing to give them a $500 bonus as they boarded the bus.

Then weld the doors shut.

Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (ZsR3z)

131 Why oh why do I get amber alerts from 270 miles away?

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (pA4Ca)

132 Posted by: Old grunt at November 24, 2021 05:53 PM

Also see: War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Poverty.

All these things will continue, like the coof mandates, until we refuse to participate.

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (DB16e)

133 BREAKING: Governor elect Youngkin vows to strike down vaccine and mask mandates in January.

A complete 180. I wonder why?

PS: He is still is keeping his transmale staffer that wears a skirt.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (DiVy8)

134 I was right, what I said about the Left and their probable reaction to the GA verdicts. Exactly right.

Biden says Aubery verdict "Not Enough" to ensure equal justice.

https://tinyurl.com/33fmezmr

Gateway Pundit link.

Justice! No peace anyway, suckas! Ever!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 24, 2021 06:01 PM (OssQ4)

135 28 Hahahaha

Army kidnapped the wrong goat.

Dumbasses.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 24, 2021 05:26 PM (CtYFa)


Guess they were staring at the wrong ones.


Posted by: Javems at November 24, 2021 06:01 PM (WQKHt)

136 JT any big plans for tomorrow?

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 06:01 PM (nxdel)

137 interesting
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:56 PM (K3ZCc)
~~~~~

It works! I just did it again today at Talbot's website. I was not paying $99 for a pair of slacks.

Of course, it doesn't work at Amazon.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 24, 2021 06:01 PM (7b2L9)

138 $95,000 is also probably more than we spend on a grunt in the army. So the solution here is obvious, coupled with re-introducing corporal punishment to deal with any problems.

I may be nominally libertarian, but damned if Starship Troopers wasn't an awesome future!

Posted by: CppThis at November 24, 2021 06:01 PM (UewuT)

139 Jewells45! How's things?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 06:01 PM (mD/uy)

140 And so it begins...

From Israel:

Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz said Wednesday that Israelis may need to get a fourth COVID-19 vaccine dose at some point if cases climb again, as the country's top coronavirus official warned that the country may already be seeing the start of a fifth infection wave.

"It's not unreasonable [to think] we'll need a fourth vaccine," said Horowitz in an interview with Channel 12, after Health Ministry data indicated that 9 percent of the new cases diagnosed Tuesday had received the third booster dose.

Posted by: It's Endless! at November 24, 2021 06:02 PM (I2/tG)

141 Isn't bail usually only a percentage of total to be made up it person doesn't show up?
=====

Dunno. I thought that you paid the bond company 10%, and they had to put up the whole amount.

I am surprised that they allowed this fellow out on bail, though. At this point, the odds that he would try to run over somebody else seem pretty good.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 24, 2021 06:02 PM (sGnvY)

142 59 btw, if you need some outerwear beynd clthing is stitched in America, has very good stuff, and a very good warranty.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 05:37 PM (K3ZCc)

Just got off the phone with them. I've been looking for some rainwear...nice folks, very helpful!

Prices are reasonable as well. Most of the gear I've looked at have been priced $400.00 or higher.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 24, 2021 06:02 PM (BgMrQ)

143 BREAKING: Governor elect Youngkin vows to strike down vaccine and mask mandates in January.

A complete 180. I wonder why?


Sounds like he listened. That's a good thing.

Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 06:02 PM (ZsR3z)

144 JT any big plans for tomorrow?
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB

Din-din w/ friends.

Posted by: JT at November 24, 2021 06:03 PM (arJlL)

145
They aren't giving money to the homeless though, are they? I'm assuming the money goes towards beefing up "services" or creating new "programs."
Posted by: Jordan61

Just like when I was back in Milwaukee...the cash is given to the people who RUN antipoverty orgs. And, becuz being the administrator of a said organization is such a difficult and taxing occupation, they skim 90% off the top for important homelessness fighting tools such as Beamers, nice houses, Escalades, and cocaine.

Posted by: Theskepticalschnauzer aka Lonebadger at November 24, 2021 06:04 PM (lIDCz)

146 I hate it when people do that to me.
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 05:59 PM (nxdel)
~~~~~

I agree Jewells. I would never do that on Etsy because that's a whole different ball of wax. Many if not most Etsy stuff is hand-made, one-of-a-kind.

I'm talking about big retailers.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 24, 2021 06:04 PM (7b2L9)

147 So GoFundMe is allowing a bail fund for the Satanic BLM Shitbag in Waukesha. After denying the same for KR.

As we all knew they would.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 24, 2021 05:41 PM

Any reports of Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube banning people who support what the scumbag did? No? Crickets?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 24, 2021 06:04 PM (OssQ4)

148 133 BREAKING: Governor elect Youngkin vows to strike down vaccine and mask mandates in January.

A complete 180. I wonder why?

PS: He is still is keeping his transmale staffer that wears a skirt.
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (DiVy

As before when he was horrible, let's wait and see what he actually does. Talk is cheap.

That is one reason I cut Kyle a gigantic pass if he says something stupid in an interview (although he should be telling everyone in media to fuck off)- when the chips were down, he was a hero. That is good enough for me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 06:04 PM (kBuGL)

149 Tonypete.. just chillin right now. Spent time with my Sheps pups today and that always makes me feel better. We got a new one right after I left! Can't wait to meet him.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 06:04 PM (nxdel)

150 I've gotten a couple of pairs of pants from Duluth Trading and been very happy with them. They could use more colors, though.

Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 06:05 PM (ZsR3z)

151 I know that Ed Driscoll gets a fair amount of "love" from the Horde, but he did link to MisHum's David Brooks post about 30 minutes ago.

MisHum's first Instalanche?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 06:05 PM (/E/BW)

152 Closing mental facilities was a HUGE mistake.
Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 05:44 PM (pA4Ca)


They still try to blame Ronald Reagan for that in CA. There's entire websites dedicated to blaming him like he came up with it on his own. His mistake was signing the damned Lanterman-Petris-Short Act bill that snowballed out of control. The whole thing was designed to do exactly what it did, and Carter made it national in 1980. More proof the left has been intentionally destroying the country ever since the end of WWII.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 06:05 PM (wAnMi)

153 As discussed early in regards to Rittenhouse, Wisconsin does not allow bail bonds so the whole amount of the bond is required to be posted.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM (9hXN1)

154 Just got off the phone with them. I've been looking for some rainwear...nice folks, very helpful!

Prices are reasonable as well. Most of the gear I've looked at have been priced $400.00 or higher.
Posted by: b


they are in the neighborhood of arcteryx and patagnia but a bit cheaper and same quality.

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM (K3ZCc)

155 Why oh why do I get amber alerts from 270 miles away?
Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:00 PM (pA4Ca)

They know you have a car?

Posted by: jakee308 at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM (hVoJQ)

156 I'm talking about big retailers.

Oh yeah lol I've done that. But a small business.. that's really a crappy thing to do.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM (nxdel)

157 Hmm, more vaxines and then more wuhan. Wonder if there is a cause and effect going on.

*scratches head*

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM (pA4Ca)

158 I know that Ed Driscoll gets a fair amount of "love" from the Horde, but he did link to MisHum's David Brooks post about 30 minutes ago.

MisHum's first Instalanche?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 06:05 PM (/E/BW)

I share that 'love' for Ed Driscoll, but yes, he does link to the blog and occasional other sites that aren't NT cucks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 24, 2021 06:07 PM (XvPQV)

159 My local city passed their record for murders in a year last night. I won't go downtown because of the bums. They are going to fix that by spending 40 million dollars turning the old mall into a Pickleball court.

Posted by: f'd at November 24, 2021 06:07 PM (Tnijr)

160 Jewells - Nice! Spending time with the doggehs is always quality time.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 06:07 PM (mD/uy)

161
"It's not unreasonable [to think] we'll need a fourth vaccine," said Horowitz in an interview with Channel 12

It's also not unreasonable to think that our vaccines, masks, lockdowns and social distancing are pretty well useless against an airborne virus and may, in fact, ultimately make things worse.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 06:08 PM (/U27+)

162 Posted by: jakee308 at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM (hVoJQ)

Ha, I am so far removed from Aurora, CO it's pathetic.

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:08 PM (pA4Ca)

163 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:09 PM (Zz0t1)

164 103 Confused about the homeless mess?
Create a mess.
Demand money to fix it.
Steal/squander the money.
Also works in public schools.
Public transportation.

Posted by: Old grunt at November 24, 2021 05:53 PM (O3KIx)


Many of the stealers and squanderers are beneficiaries of what must be the biggest scam-enabling and kick-back-sending scheme in the history of mankind: Federal Block Grants to cities and counties, to fight the War on Poverty, the War on Child Hunger, and all the other social Wars started by the Leftists.

Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2021 06:09 PM (AMIL/)

165 33 Turning the Homeless into Green Energy is the only sensible solution.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 05:28 PM (bRk5z)

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It would depend on how many kwBh (kilowatt per bum hours) they'd generate. If there are only 17000 of them, and the potential energy of each bum is only 1 or 2 kwBh, the extraction energy used to burn them would exceed the energy you'd get out of them. But I am not a physicist, so my numbers may be off.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 24, 2021 06:09 PM (lNHqD)

166 Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz said Wednesday that Israelis may need to get a fourth COVID-19 vaccine dose at some point if cases climb again, as the country's top coronavirus official warned that the country may already be seeing the start of a fifth infection wave.

"It's not unreasonable [to think] we'll need a fourth vaccine," said Horowitz in an interview with Channel 12, after Health Ministry data indicated that 9 percent of the new cases diagnosed Tuesday had received the third booster dose.
Posted by: It's Endless! at November 24, 2021 06:02 PM (I2/tG)

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a needle, jabbing into your arm forever.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 24, 2021 06:10 PM (Ojki1)

167 This just in.

None of that money will go toward 'solving' the homeless problem in SFO.

Because it's all graft. It's a liberal shithole, so ALL the money will be laundered to liberal causes and fucktards.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:10 PM (Zz0t1)

168 So this is like, what, 10% of what we're giving derelict whelps separated from their illegal alien parent?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 24, 2021 06:10 PM (BPuaD)

169 Jeebus, now it's from the Vail area. In a Crown Vic. Guess the melatonin.

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:10 PM (pA4Ca)

170 They still try to blame Ronald Reagan for that in CA. There's entire websites dedicated to blaming him like he came up with it on his own

Yeah I wrote about that in one of my old blog's misconceptions series. It was a Supreme Court decision a decade before he took office. He just followed through on that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:10 PM (KZzsI)

171 New York Post
@nypost
Darrell Brooks shared pro-Hitler memes, called for violence against white people

-
Helluva coincidink!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 24, 2021 06:10 PM (FVME7)

172 165 33 Turning the Homeless into Green Energy is the only sensible solution.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 05:28 PM (bRk5z)

------------------
It would depend on how many kwBh (kilowatt per bum hours) they'd generate. If there are only 17000 of them, and the potential energy of each bum is only 1 or 2 kwBh, the extraction energy used to burn them would exceed the energy you'd get out of them. But I am not a physicist, so my numbers may be off.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 24, 2021 06:09 PM (lNHqD)

Oldcat? Your masters degree could come into some use right about now.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 06:11 PM (/E/BW)

173 "War on" whatever programs are full employment schemes for seven Sisters alumnae. In Cali, include Berkeley, Stanford, UCLA and USC. .

Posted by: Fox2! at November 24, 2021 06:11 PM (ODbpK)

174 Why oh why do I get amber alerts from 270 miles away?
Posted by: Infidel

Mebbe they think yer HAWT !

Posted by: JT at November 24, 2021 06:11 PM (arJlL)

175 "The extraction energy used to burn them would exceed the energy you'd get out of them."

What if you stack em and let them dry and season for a year?

Posted by: f'd at November 24, 2021 06:11 PM (Tnijr)

176 If they don't use Glenwood Canyon as a choke point, he will be passing thru my ao in about 2.5 hrs.

Let's Go Brandon.

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:12 PM (pA4Ca)

177 You want to solve the homeless problem?

Give us a Toyota Prius, an old jar of mustard and a poodle.



Posted by: Dirty Mike and the Boys at November 24, 2021 06:12 PM (R/m4+)

178 None of that money will go toward 'solving' the homeless problem in SFO.

They will build shelters, fund homeless aid groups, do studies, etc with some of it which ostensibly is to deal with the bums, but most of it will go into pockets of politicians, contractors, and special interest organizations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:12 PM (KZzsI)

179 Confused about the homeless mess?
Create a mess.
Demand money to fix it.
Steal/squander the money.
Also works in public schools.
Public transportation.


Don't forget policing. Leftists in Portland are demanding that instead of spending money on cops (which is useless, of course), we "invest" the money in "culturally-specific violence prevention programs".

Guess who would run those programs?

Posted by: Ka-Ching! at November 24, 2021 06:12 PM (I2/tG)

180 Covid will be here until every human gets on the same booster sequence and simultaneously takes a dose.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 06:12 PM (9HRiP)

181 BabylonBee: Black, White Americans Join Hands Around Common Cause Of Launching Journalists Into The Sun

Posted by: SMOD at November 24, 2021 06:12 PM (X5CsJ)

182 Hmm, more vaxines and then more wuhan. Wonder if there is a cause and effect going on.

*scratches head*
Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM (pA4Ca)

Seeing as it takes two three weeks (depending upon jurisdiction) after you get the latest jab for one to be considered "fully vaccinated" they can simple call any early-onset jab injuries as "wuflu".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 06:13 PM (P3gRi)

183 New York Post
@nypost
Darrell Brooks shared pro-Hitler memes, called for violence against white people


But the white guys in Georgia were racist murders because they killed a black man that was attacking them and trying to take their guns after he robbed a construction sight in their neighborhood.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:13 PM (Zz0t1)

184 Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 06:05 PM (wAnMi)

Since inception. Look at the name DEMOCRAT. They are opposed to representative government. They desire the tyranny of the majority and do their worst to manipulate that majority to their aims.

As such they have been opposed to anything done by or aimed at by our Republic Government.

It is no surprise. It is only surprising how much they are willing to harm others to get their goals accomplished.

They are the party of slavery, monarchy, class and state owned capital where the population are serfs to be controlled.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 24, 2021 06:13 PM (hVoJQ)

185 157 Hmm, more vaxines and then more wuhan. Wonder if there is a cause and effect going on.

*scratches head*
Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM

And scientist claim the low covid rates in Africa are a "mystery." Later on the article states the region they are mystified about is "only 6% vaccination rate"

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 24, 2021 06:13 PM (DB16e)

186 Interesting that David Brooks' name would come up on such a topic. I remember reading an article of his from about 11 years ago in which he crunched some numbers and basically determined that those of us who graduated into the recession were turbo fucked ecomomically, to the tune of the value of a house. It was a good write-up that considered not just lost wages but delayed promotions and investment interest, extra years paying rent for zero equity, and suchlike. Fast forward a decade and he wonders why people like me who got ripped off by institutional asshole motherfuckers in suits are drawn to populist politics.

Though, in fairness to Mr. Brooks, it does sound like he's got a shred of understanding of the what and the why buried under all the old-boy shenanigans. It honestly reads a bit like those "I'm a psychotic man hating feminazi and grasping at why men don't want me" articles, like he's on the cusp of a glorious revelation but can't quite swallow that red pill.

Posted by: CppThis at November 24, 2021 06:13 PM (UewuT)

187 Turning the Homeless into Green Energy is the only sensible solution.

Posted by: garrett

Green energy, Soylent Green, tomayto, tomahto.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (FVME7)

188
We need a lot more money to deal with the ____________ problem, and we're doing the right thing by spending an additional _______ dollars (or ___% more) than we do today.


I'll take, "What is the most widely used page in the statists' spending Mad Libs playbook?" for $2,000, Alex.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (hgEWn)

189 how many BTU's are in a garrett ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (us2H3)

190 "The extraction energy used to burn them would exceed the energy you'd get out of them."

Take their water and be done with it.

Posted by: The Fremin at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (AiZBA)

191 >>It would depend on how many kwBh (kilowatt per bum hours) they'd generate. If there are only 17000 of them, and the potential energy of each bum is only 1 or 2 kwBh, the extraction energy used to burn them would exceed the energy you'd get out of them. But I am not a physicist, so my numbers may be off.


You animal!


I was thinking of using them to turn a turbine MANUALLY.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (XBtur)

192 >This also means they're family is somewhere else and/or has rejected them.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 24, 2021 05:55 PM (hVoJQ)

Nah bruh, from personal experience I can tell you that sometimes it's because said homeless person has family who is willing to help, but who refuses to abide by some bare minimum rules of living in order to stay in a house and get help. That, and said person probably burned nearly all of their bridges with sympathetic family members. You may be living in a tent under the bridge, but by gawd you've got the freedom to inject what you want without any of those pesky rules n shit.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (cSs/W)

193 SOYLENT GREEN ENERGY : Solving Problems, with People.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (XBtur)

194 how many BTU's are in a garrett ?
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (us2H3)


$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (Zz0t1)

195 The extraction energy used to burn them would exceed the energy you'd get out of them.

No way, The Matrix totally said that you can use humans as energy producers!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (KZzsI)

196 Sponge you need to grap 111 comment

Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (2JoB8)

197 194 how many BTU's are in a garrett ?
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (us2H3)

$20, same as in town.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (Zz0t1)

Depends on if he had bean burritos for lunch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 06:16 PM (kBuGL)

198 Time to sell the trailer and move to San Francisco.

There's money in them thar hills!

Posted by: Miklos, flowers in his hair at November 24, 2021 06:16 PM (QzkSJ)

199 190 "The extraction energy used to burn them would exceed the energy you'd get out of them."

Take their water and be done with it.
Posted by: The Fremin


Use them for rodent trap bait.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 24, 2021 06:16 PM (DiVy8)

200 >>New York Post
@nypost
Darrell Brooks shared pro-Hitler memes, called for violence against white people


He looks like the kind of guy Hitler was real fond of, too.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 06:16 PM (XBtur)

201 looks like old Tommy Jeff may had a handle on what should be done on who gets to vote

Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:16 PM (us2H3)

202 like he's on the cusp of a glorious revelation but can't quite swallow that red pill.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

Posted by: Upton Sinclair! at November 24, 2021 06:16 PM (I2/tG)

203 You think the SF Chomical or SFGate would have the balls to print Joe's little summary up there? I'd love to see some lefty try to defend this grift and address those [shudder] numbers. Facts and numbers don't lie, just the left.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (wAnMi)

204 134 I was right, what I said about the Left and their probable reaction to the GA verdicts. Exactly right.
Biden says Aubery verdict "Not Enough" to ensure equal justice.
https://tinyurl.com/33fmezmr
Gateway Pundit link.
Justice! No peace anyway, suckas! Ever!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 24, 2021 06:01 PM (OssQ4)


Biden added, "While the guilty verdicts reflect our justice system doing its job, that alone is not enough. Instead, we must recommit ourselves to building a future of unity and shared strength, where no one fears violence because of the color of their skin. My administration will continue to do the hard work to ensure that equal justice under law is not just a phrase emblazoned in stone above the Supreme Court, but a reality for all Americans."

OK, Joe, now do black on Asian crime!

Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (AMIL/)

205 No way, The Matrix totally said that you can use humans as energy producers!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (KZzsI)

I never understood that idea. Hook humans up to a cyber universe and then use their heat to power your machine dystopia.

Why not use cows? You would not have to have a great universe and I am pretty sure they give off more heat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (kBuGL)

206 It would depend on how many kwBh (kilowatt per bum hours) they'd generate. If there are only 17000 of them, and the potential energy of each bum is only 1 or 2 kwBh


Pedal well, and live

Posted by: Miklos, Dignity Peloton Power by and for the People at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (QzkSJ)

207 Why oh why do I get amber alerts from 270 miles away?
Posted by: I


how did you get 270 mi away so fast?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 06:18 PM (K3ZCc)

208

The city could make a tidy profit letting the rich hunt the street people... $100,000 a head... Win-Win...

Posted by: Just Sayin at November 24, 2021 06:18 PM (upHE6)

209 we are currently working on finding a pic of Darrell in a tux

Posted by: CNN at November 24, 2021 06:18 PM (us2H3)

210 Jeebus, now it's from the Vail area. In a Crown Vic. Guess the melatonin.
Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:10 PM (pA4Ca)

I turn off Amber alerts. I just don't pay much attention to them, unless they are being noisy and obnoxious. If I see a child in the company of an adult, my default assumption is that the adult is a parent, or some other party acting in loco parentis.

Now, if I were in a public place, and some kid was screaming that it was being kidnapped, I might discreetlly call 911, and report a possible kidnapping.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (P3gRi)

211 I don't know how to grap anything.

Teach me, sensei.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (Zz0t1)

212 That, and said person probably burned nearly all of their bridges with sympathetic family members. You may be living in a tent under the bridge, but by gawd you've got the freedom to inject what you want without any of those pesky rules n shit.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 24, 2021 06:14 PM (cSs/W)

Concur. Knew one fella who a couple of friends let him stay at their place for awhile to "help" him out. He stole all their gear and pawned it then assaulted them when they called the popo.

A real peach.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (R/m4+)

213 But the white guys in Georgia were racist murders because they killed a black man that was attacking them and trying to take their guns after he robbed a construction sight in their neighborhood.

Hey we don't know that, right? I mean the local police spared no expense to find the thief and thus put an end to the robberies and show that vigilantes aren't needed in their community, didn't they.

Or did the thefts just magically end, like they did after Trayvon went to his eternal reward?

Posted by: Methos at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (kOpft)

214 FJB released a statement about the GA verdict. Has that useless bag of crap said anything about WI?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (9HRiP)

215 They never say how the money will be spent, which makes me believe it will be siphoned into bureaucrats' pockets.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (OU+8W)

216 it is even funnier when you have somebody, see viv frei, that believes they have been red pilld when they have not

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (K3ZCc)

217 What if we got the homeless to pull the Rickshaw?

Posted by: Newman at November 24, 2021 06:20 PM (XBtur)

218 I don't know how to grap anything.

Teach me, sensei.
Posted by: Sponge

Hold my beer

Posted by: Miklos, now watch this at November 24, 2021 06:20 PM (QzkSJ)

219
"Amber Alert! 250 miles away! Call police!!" About what?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 06:20 PM (/U27+)

220 No way, The Matrix totally said that you can use humans as energy producers!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (KZzsI)

I never understood that idea. Hook humans up to a cyber universe and then use their heat to power your machine dystopia.

Why not use cows? You would not have to have a great universe and I am pretty sure they give off more heat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (kBuGL)

As the storyline goes, human-energy was coupled with a form of fusion. It never made sense, and it would have been better left unspoken.

Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 06:20 PM (SH2Zi)

221 Has that useless bag of crap said anything about WI?

What happened in Wisconsin?

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at November 24, 2021 06:20 PM (I2/tG)

222 they are in the neighborhood of arcteryx and patagnia but a bit cheaper and same quality.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 06:06 PM (K3ZCc)

Arcteryx was crazy expensive, and Patagonia's been a disappointment lately.

Mountain Hardwear had ugly designs. Marmot didn't do anything for me either in the looks department.

I'm getting the K6 rain jacket. Rain pants might be next, if the jacket is as advertised.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 24, 2021 06:21 PM (BgMrQ)

223 The freedom of living in a tent under a bridge and injecting whatever or smoking whatever is all there is. Even after the ER doc says 'that foot's gotta come off, or you'll die.'

Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2021 06:21 PM (0OP+5)

224 Prime Minister Of Sweden Resigns Hours After Becoming The First Female To Hold The Position

if only we knew Kamala Harris would do this

Posted by: SMOD at November 24, 2021 06:21 PM (X5CsJ)

225 Politico tonight headlines their usual "DeSantis is defeated!" mentally ill salve they always need.

The Seminole Nation wants a gambling deal with the state of Florida - and of course the state wants the tax revenue, but mostly this is about Tonto wanting to ride the white pony and the Politico lefties all know that - but they can't help their demented selves.

A federal judge ruled that the Seminole deal is off the table unless the US Dept of Interior approves - and of course they will because otherwise a whole of Indians ain't voting for the Dems - but this ruling brought out the whole "DeSantis must die!" cult that is the media. I would feel embarrassed for them but they are children, so how else can they behave?

Posted by: Boswell at November 24, 2021 06:21 PM (5iUNf)

226 OK, Joe, now do black on Asian crime!
Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (AMIL/)

Odd how the greatest cause of death of young black males is young black males...

Posted by: Bete at November 24, 2021 06:21 PM (Ojki1)

227 If you want a picture of the future, imagine a needle, jabbing into your arm forever.

That appears to be the goal.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2021 06:21 PM (Xrfse)

228 Technically, SFO is the airport.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (KAi1n)

229 He looks like the kind of guy Hitler was real fond of, too.

-
This is the Hitler meme he posted.

https://bit.ly/3FHKtgw

And it's not crazy at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (FVME7)

230 220 No way, The Matrix totally said that you can use humans as energy producers!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (KZzsI)

I never understood that idea. Hook humans up to a cyber universe and then use their heat to power your machine dystopia.

Why not use cows? You would not have to have a great universe and I am pretty sure they give off more heat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (kBuGL)

As the storyline goes, human-energy was coupled with a form of fusion. It never made sense, and it would have been better left unspoken.
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2021 06:20 PM (SH2Zi)

Plus 'steak', flounder! Cow Matrix is sounding better and better!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (kBuGL)

231 218 I don't know how to grap anything.

Teach me, sensei.
Posted by: Sponge

the guy that says first at 121 doesn't know how to grap

idnt dat speshal

Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (us2H3)

232 Fuck Patagonia. Chouinard is / was and always will be a piece of shit.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (XBtur)

233
That appears to be the goal.
Posted by: N




just say no

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (K3ZCc)

234 214 FJB released a statement about the GA verdict. Has that useless bag of crap said anything about WI?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (9HRiP)
-----------------------

Wisconsin? We withdrew all the troops from Wisconsin a few months ago, it was a smooth operation. Our Taliban friends were a big help. C'mon, man!

Posted by: Stinkfinger Joe, President of The United...Thing at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (lNHqD)

235 Contextualize, sure, maybe on Monday. Tonight is Motown, a drink and making homemade pasta.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (j8vh7)

236 we are currently working on finding a pic of Darrell in a tux

"In a pinch you can just use something from high school, that makes him look innocent and youthful!"
--Fox News

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (KZzsI)

237
Prime Minister Of Sweden Resigns Hours After Becoming The First Female To Hold The Position

_________

Failed the parallel parking test.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (/U27+)

238 Prime Minister Of Sweden Resigns Hours After Becoming The First Female To Hold The Position

The Party of Parallel Parking

Posted by: Miklos, coalition talks failed again at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (QzkSJ)

239 >Concur. Knew one fella who a couple of friends let him stay at their place for awhile to "help" him out. He stole all their gear and pawned it then assaulted them when they called the popo.

A real peach.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (R/m4+)

Yep. I know one guy who used to be a very hard worker then got hooked on meth. He robbed his elderly grandparents blind to fuel his drug habit. To the point where their comfortable retirement became significantly less comfortable. The family was completely torn apart when said grandparents demanded accountability for him by turning him into the cops for his crime, then the rest of the family shit on the grandparents for doing so, and cut them out of their lives. It's all so awful.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 24, 2021 06:23 PM (cSs/W)

240 HORDE MIND LIVES

Posted by: Miklos, coalition talks failed again at November 24, 2021 06:23 PM (QzkSJ)

241 I never understood that idea. Hook humans up to a cyber universe and then use their heat to power your machine dystopia.

Why not use cows? You would not have to have a great universe and I am pretty sure they give off more heat.

The machine mind was into petty vengeance for whatever reason. And oddly touchy about the dependence on people when Neo spoke with it at the end.

Posted by: Methos at November 24, 2021 06:23 PM (kOpft)

242 Which is in South S. F. - a different city. "The industrial city". I miss the old Camp Agnos days. Where's sycho on a thread like this???

Posted by: SFGoth at November 24, 2021 06:23 PM (KAi1n)

243 the guy that says first at 121 doesn't know how to grap

idnt dat speshal
Posted by: REDACTED

There's an app for grap

Posted by: Miklosware at November 24, 2021 06:24 PM (QzkSJ)

244 The machine mind was into petty vengeance for whatever reason.

Because computers totally are all about tantrums and vengeance

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:25 PM (KZzsI)

245 No way, The Matrix totally said that you can use humans as energy producers!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (KZzsI)
I never understood that idea. Hook humans up to a cyber universe and then use their heat to power your machine dystopia.
Why not use cows? You would not have to have a great universe and I am pretty sure they give off more heat.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (kBuGL)


Cows, pigs, fucking ostriches or hamsters for that matter. No need to have any sort of program running other than the ground with food on it. Think of the energy consumption being used just to create an entire universe to fool humans! Fuck, put trillions upon trillions of hamsters on fucking wheels, and double the output.

Well, what do you expect from a couple of on the spectrum confused transgendered commies? They got lucky. Once. And then they made sure to prove it was luck with 2 sequels, just in case we confused the original for actual talent. And in case we thought it might have been a case of writers block, Jupiter Ascending.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 06:25 PM (wAnMi)

246 On the rarest of occasions I miss galloping race horses in the fog at Golden Gate Fields.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 24, 2021 06:25 PM (j8vh7)

247 234 214 FJB released a statement about the GA verdict. Has that useless bag of crap said anything about WI?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 24, 2021 06:19 PM (9HRiP)
-----------------------

And true to form he said the guilty verdicts weren't enough.. Moor social racial justice !

Posted by: It's me donna at November 24, 2021 06:25 PM (L7jxG)

248 Thing is, hard drugs are cheaper here than retail alcohol. No sales or excise taxes, and no recycling fee.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 24, 2021 06:25 PM (KAi1n)

249 And of that ~2 billion dollars, how much goes to the salaries and benefits, not to mention union dues, of the city employees who are paid to 'help' the homeless? 65%? 70%?

Posted by: JB1000 at November 24, 2021 06:26 PM (8Em4J)

250 The city could make a tidy profit letting the rich hunt the street people... $100,000 a head... Win-Win...
Posted by: Just Sayin

I remember some movie sorta based on this premise. Bunch of rich dudes in a cabin hunting a guy thru the woods for sport.

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:26 PM (pA4Ca)

251 The machine mind was into petty vengeance for whatever reason.

Because computers totally are all about tantrums and vengeance

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:25 PM (KZzsI)

Why aren't I 50 points ahead?

Posted by: HillBot at November 24, 2021 06:26 PM (SH2Zi)

252 sock away

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 24, 2021 06:26 PM (AiZBA)

253 there is a online movement to have Ahmaud 's remains be placed next to Rosie Ruiz

Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:26 PM (us2H3)

254 Joe Biden says white men convicted of murder of a black man isn't enough?

What the fuck does he want? The trial wasn't 'fair' as it's supposed to be and they were railroaded into a guilty verdict just as Chauvin was, but it's NOT enough?

We're fucked.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:27 PM (Zz0t1)

255 232 Fuck Patagonia. Chouinard is / was and always will be a piece of shit.
Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 06:22 PM (XBtur)

Yeah, but in the early days the company was as good at customer service as LL Bean. I've returned jackets to them for new zippers / cuffs a couple of times and they did the repairs for free.

Their gear wore like iron, and were wearable for hand-me-downs through two boys, who weren't easy on clothes.

Today is different story. Where I can, my dollars go USA.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 24, 2021 06:27 PM (BgMrQ)

256 Sundowner, The Ho, Governor Evens all released statements they had a sad after the Wisconsin verdict.

Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2021 06:28 PM (2JoB8)

257 A federal judge ruled that the Seminole deal is off the table unless the US Dept of Interior approves - and of course they will because otherwise a whole of Indians ain't voting for the Dems - but this ruling brought out the whole "DeSantis must die!" cult that is the media. I would feel embarrassed for them but they are children, so how else can they behave?
Posted by: Boswell at November 24, 2021 06:21 PM (5iUNf)

If the Seminoles get into the casino biz, then Larry McMurtry would have to write a song called "Seminole Crokinole"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2021 06:28 PM (P3gRi)

258 248 Thing is, hard drugs are cheaper here than retail alcohol. No sales or excise taxes, and no recycling fee.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 24, 2021 06:25 PM (KAi1n)

CA can't figure out why 2/3 pot sales are in the black market

Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:29 PM (us2H3)

259 Youngest daughter just posted a memory on FB. Six years ago today my oldest daughter surprised me by showing up at the front door. She drove all the way from Albuquerque to surprise me for Thanksgiving. I was beside myself with joy. One of the best days of my life.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (nxdel)

260
Nud

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (/U27+)

261 Nood

Roomy and dry...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (BgMrQ)

262
CA can't figure out why 2/3 pot sales are in the black market
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:29 PM (us2H3)


They know WHY. They don't care......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (Zz0t1)

263 253 there is a online movement to have Ahmaud 's remains be placed next to Rosie Ruiz
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:26 PM (us2H3)

Wait, she's morte?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (/E/BW)

264 I am sick of every time Bribe'em mentions jobs they are always Union Jobs, not small independent employers creating jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (j8vh7)

265 I have never had a bad piece of equipmnt from patagnia or customer service.

I would buy more were it not for their propaganda

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (K3ZCc)

266 No way, The Matrix totally said that you can use humans as energy producers!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 24, 2021 06:15 PM (KZzsI)

I never understood that idea. Hook humans up to a cyber universe and then use their heat to power your machine dystopia.

Why not use cows? You would not have to have a great universe and I am pretty sure they give off more heat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 24, 2021 06:17 PM (kBuGL)


It's best to not think very hard about the plots of 99 percent of espionage, murder, crime, and science fiction books and movies, If you do, you'll discover plot holes you could fit the planet Jupiter into.

Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2021 06:31 PM (AMIL/)

267 Which is in South S. F. - a different city. "The industrial city". I miss the old Camp Agnos days. Where's sycho on a thread like this???
Posted by: SFGoth at November 24, 2021 06:23 PM (KAi1n)


Colma.
C o l m a.
How much better can it get than "city of the dead"?
I'm waiting for them to dig up all the graves and put a new Facebook campus in - because stunning views. And Meta. Now, you just need to imagine visiting granma's grave. Beautiful rolling hills, green trees, view of the bay, lovely rhododendron flowers... Even though she's in the landfill down in San Martin now.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 24, 2021 06:31 PM (wAnMi)

268 Yeah, but in the early days the company was as good at customer service as LL Bean.
Today is different story. Where I can, my dollars go USA.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot

As an aside, I walked into Sherwin Williams the other day to see if they'd sell me a few empty, metal quart sized cans.

The nice young lady behind the counter says nope - I see you in here all the time. Here's some freebies.

I am big on good customer service. Why would I go elsewhere?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2021 06:31 PM (mD/uy)

269 >>A federal judge ruled that the Seminole deal is off the table unless the US Dept of Interior approves

Sorry, not "approves", I meant appeals - which they will - already the Seminole Nation has expressed a rather ugly "unhappiness" with the federal judge that I doubt the USDOI is going to allow to filter up to the Punchy Admin. But Politico is trying tonight to suggest that DeSantis will have to 'suck up' to Punchy to get the DOI to do anything...nope, he's already said tonight "meh"

Posted by: Boswell at November 24, 2021 06:32 PM (5iUNf)

270 Andrew Branca's thoughts on the Arbery case:

https://youtu.be/vVBPZXzTSwU

Not pleased or disappointed in the verdict, but appalled by the process. He says the judge allowed the jury to use a very ambiguous version of the citizen's arrest statute and that was the linchpin upon which all else hinged.

Branca will be on TimCastIRL on UToob at 8:00 pm Eastern tonight.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 24, 2021 06:32 PM (+gr8S)

271 254 Joe Biden says white men convicted of murder of a black man isn't enough?

What the fuck does he want? The trial wasn't 'fair' as it's supposed to be and they were railroaded into a guilty verdict just as Chauvin was, but it's NOT enough?

We're fucked.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:27 PM (Zz0t1)

If Joe really wanted to make a statement, he could remove the barrier of the white man keeping the "black" woman from being president all by himself...well, assuming the Secret Service could keep Dr. Jill from leaving him in a more vegetative state for doing so anyway.

Posted by: Bete at November 24, 2021 06:32 PM (Ojki1)

272 Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (nxdel)

how come I don't have great memories like this ?

I got fucking ripped off

Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:33 PM (us2H3)

273 What a wonderful memory Jewells! Nice of kidlet to post it.

Posted by: Infidel at November 24, 2021 06:33 PM (pA4Ca)

274 264 I am sick of every time Bribe'em mentions jobs they are always Union Jobs, not small independent employers creating jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (j8vh7)

+1

It is also sickening when he talks about creating zillions of new, good-paying union jobs, and how he supports the creation of zillions of new small businesses, or Mom-and-Pop shops as he calls them, in the SAME speech.

Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2021 06:34 PM (AMIL/)

275 I'm at my Mother in Law's house and I'm already drunk.

Coincidently, the visit going well.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) has drink taken at November 24, 2021 06:35 PM (x6cfo)

276 >>how come I don't have great memories like this ?

>I got fucking ripped off


No shit.

Can't rightly remember the last time someone did anything nice for me.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 06:35 PM (XBtur)

277 I'm at my Mother in Law's house and I'm already drunk.

Did she serve a ham, by any chance




Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 06:37 PM (KrMCC)

278 ...no wait. I can.

A Misanthrope sent me a painting.

Also, some weirdo from a fictitious State sent me soe shellfish.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 06:38 PM (XBtur)

279 One reason why Elon demanded that they print their program for reducing poverty. How much and where it was going and publicly so everyone could follow along.

Notice we haven't heard much since then.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 24, 2021 06:39 PM (xApek)

280 >> I'm at my Mother in Law's house and I'm already drunk.


...and the Mashed potatoes are already nervous.

Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2021 06:39 PM (XBtur)

281 Did she serve a ham, by any chance




Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 06:37 PM (KrMCC)


We brought roast beef for tonight. It made great sandwiches, which goes great with the drinking.

Ham and turkey are for tomorrow when Boy928 shows up.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) has drink taken at November 24, 2021 06:39 PM (x6cfo)

282 There is nothing to be done about vagrancy but provide austere in-kind benefits which assist vagrants in keeping body and soul together. Some vagrants are having short term problems and will re-enter ordinary life 'ere long. Others will not. At any one time,

The role of LOCAL government is to provide manpower for order maintenance around shelters. It can also work to roust loitering and camping vagrants making themselves a nuisance to members of the broader public.

Because they do not have fixed addresses, vagrants are poor candidates for Medicaid benefits. Local governments or charities could set up clinics for them - portable structures which can be set up outside emergency shelters or fixed structures to which patients are admitted with tickets handed out at emergency shelters.

Posted by: Art Deco at November 24, 2021 06:40 PM (1BrBu)

283 Note, at any one time, some vagrants belong in jail for committing street crime and some belong in asylums because they're too far along the spectrum which runs from normal to insane. Local authorities need to detain them and state agencies to house them.

Posted by: Art Deco at November 24, 2021 06:41 PM (1BrBu)

284 Posted by: G'rump928(c) has drink taken at November 24, 2021 06:39 PM (x6cfo)

I was being a bit of a smart alec; Berserker was on an epic rant last night about how is MIL is constantly trying to force ham on the family!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 24, 2021 06:42 PM (KrMCC)

285 "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."
Posted by: Upton Sinclair! at November 24, 2021 06:16 PM (I2/tG)


Right. Now tell me about the drawbacks of the EPIC plan.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2021 06:43 PM (P9T5R)

286 Note, the Bay Area housing market has been ruined by wretched excess in land use regulations. The effect on rents does toss people on the margins into the vagrant pool. Breed will give no thought to that.

Posted by: Art Deco at November 24, 2021 06:43 PM (1BrBu)

287 In the Arberry case, those guys deserved the guilty verdict. For their stupidity mostly.

Anyone with sense would not have done what they did how they did it. It was a disaster waiting to happen. I pity the guy who followed them and videoed the whole thing. If he'd kept his nose out he'd be free and they'd got a different verdict maybe.

I have no sympathy for stupid. No matter their motives or means. They were backwoods stupid.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 24, 2021 06:43 PM (xApek)

288 At any one time, vagrants account for about 0.25% of the population or less. Shelters, soup kitchens, and community food cupboards can be maintained at a total cost which can be financed by private charity. There is no need for public financing, for the most part.

Posted by: Art Deco at November 24, 2021 06:45 PM (1BrBu)

289 "Affordable Housing"


Uttered by the same people who plowed eleventy gazillion dollars into the crooked real estate market. Little wonder housing and rent is "unaffordable".

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 24, 2021 06:51 PM (KNsfV)

290 This will just make the problem worse. Half of the money will go to bureaucrats to implement the programs. The giveaways will just attract more homeless to SF. When the money runs out (at some point you run out of OPM) and income-earners flee, you will have a homeless city.

Posted by: Angel at November 24, 2021 06:51 PM (gDpTE)

291 So Newsweek (yeah, I know...) and others are desperately trying to defend Punchy with a retarded "fact check" that no one is buying tonight - that Punchy's "end quote" at the end of well, maybe what started out as a quote and maybe ended up as his actual speech, is in fact normal and the rightwing took it out of context..."Hey," says some Eastern European doofus for Newsweek named, get this, Yevgeny Kuklychev, "it's how we (English speaking people, I would presume) all do it!"

Yeah, so no. No English-speaking person, Yuri, says in an actual speech "end quote" when quoting someone, like fucking ever. That the liberal media is getting completely dragged over this lamo excuse is just sugar on top.

Posted by: Boswell at November 24, 2021 06:52 PM (5iUNf)

292 I always liked Sam Kinison's plan to solve the "homeless" problem.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy




Heh. Classic Kinison:

https://youtu.be/v_xDdpT4YwQ

Posted by: Sharkman at November 24, 2021 06:57 PM (+gr8S)

293 The author is wrong on the impact of this spending. SF should double the amount proposed. It will attract more of the worthy homeless to diversify this citadel of progressivism. It will bring equity to those who preach the doctrine of progressivism and allow their investments in real estate to prosper as did those who invested in Detroit, Harlem, Camden, Chicago.

It will create an atmosphere of utopia and bring a new enlightment to the privileged elites that have made SF the byword that it is. By all means spend more on welfare, shovel ready projects, green energy, and programs that will deify the homeless and most of all those people who claim membership in the ALCU. Antifa, BLM, etc.

Posted by: Harry at November 24, 2021 07:08 PM (EcD5Y)

294 It'd be great if you could pose as Shitbag's lawyer, scoop all the money, and disappear.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon




*Sharkman roots around looking for his L. Lin Wood suit*

Posted by: Sharkman at November 24, 2021 07:17 PM (+gr8S)

295 What if you stack em and let them dry and season for a year?

Posted by: f'd



Then you could either use them as fuel or sell them as hobo jerky.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 24, 2021 07:21 PM (+gr8S)

296 A homeless person amusing themselves in Portland:

https://www.reddit.com/r/
Portland/comments/r0sr26/rock_thrower_off_glisan/

The person whose car was hit called 911. It took the cops more than a day to get back to her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 24, 2021 05:45 PM (I2/tG)

Last time I called 911 the operator wouldn't even connect me to the police. Some nutjob was chasing me around in 4 AM in my car trying to pick up my brother to get me back from a surgery for an unset broken arm I had around 6.

She was shocked when I told her I was parked on the median of the road to avoid him. THAT was somehow wrong, so I urged her to send a cop to give me a damn ticket.

She was shocked when I tolder

Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 07:24 PM (eoQWY)

297 By all means spend more on welfare, shovel ready projects, green energy, and programs that will deify the homeless and most of all those people who claim membership in the ALCU. Antifa, BLM, etc.
Posted by: Harry at November 24, 2021 07:08 PM (EcD5Y)

Make sure to hire the people who built the skyscraper that is falling over in the city to build these shovel ready projects, too.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 07:25 PM (eoQWY)

298 The money isn't really meant to be spent on the homeless. Almost all of it (>90%) will be spent on exorbitant salaries for the useless offspring of our garbage "elites" working no show/make work jobs. Pretty much all the money the government spends on the "poor" ends up in the pockets of the "elites".

Posted by: Pluskat's Dog at November 24, 2021 07:27 PM (Y6qC4)

299 CA can't figure out why 2/3 pot sales are in the black market
Posted by: REDACTED at November 24, 2021 06:29 PM (us2H3)

They know WHY. They don't care......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at November 24, 2021 06:30 PM (Zz0t1)

Oh, they do care. They want their cut.

They did all this figurin' and figurin' about all the money they could make by pot smokers paying taxes like cigarette smokers used to. They forgot that once you made it legal, the old black market is even better off than before and competes with you. They've even caught stores swapping in the old off the street stuff into official stores.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 24, 2021 07:31 PM (eoQWY)

300 A thousand is a thousand ones. A million is a thousand thousands. A billion is a thousand millions. A trillion is a thousand billions.

Posted by: EmbeT at November 24, 2021 07:47 PM (nvxPV)

301 Cher knew the correct terms for the homeless: Gypsies Tramps and Thieves.

Posted by: Regular joe at November 24, 2021 08:08 PM (L9P9s)

302 Mannix - thank you very much for your work in sharing all this with us. Would like to chat with you about some of my experiences in working with government contracts sometime in the future. No rush, but love reading your stuff. Thanks again!

Posted by: NC Ref at November 24, 2021 08:26 PM (RAodA)

303 A few weeks ago, someone posted a video of Tainted Love by Broken Peach. I'd never heard of them, but it was a pretty cool, if quirky video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q45yicposyI

It turns out the singers are really good, as well as nice to look at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi8sqFwIClM

Posted by: pep at November 24, 2021 08:46 PM (ZsR3z)

304 Not sure why no one seems to have pointed out that all these welfare benefits are tax-exempt. At the the income levels stated, the federal income tax hit would be about 12%; the employment tax to the individual is another ~6.5%; I don't know the State and Municipal taxes (and don't care to look them up), but I'd be surprised if they're below 5%.

So if we're playing around at a $40K "income" level for these folks, it would actually take something like a $52K job to score the same lifestyle. And that's just on the direct payments.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 24, 2021 09:16 PM (K58O6)

305 Put the homeless to work whenever they show up in your berg. Make it compulsory. They'll leave immediately. Best of all, they'll show up in some close by liberal s**t hole of a city which will pay for them. Win-win all around.

Posted by: FatAlbert at November 25, 2021 12:31 AM (/LM9B)

306 "We can have as many paupers as the country chooses to pay for." -- Thomas Babington Macaulay

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at November 25, 2021 05:34 AM (z/nZY)

307 Considering that their corporate tax base is closing up shop in town, that money will have to be imported from DC.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at November 25, 2021 11:52 AM (R4j1g)

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