Revealed: White House Weaklings Were Too Afraid to Tell Biden the Truth About Afghanistan

They were "too scared" to tell Biden and National Security Soiboi Jake Sullivan to keep Bagram air base open, for example.

President Joe Biden's aides were "too scared" to question him on key decisions made in the run-up to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, sources close to the administration have told The Telegraph.
Mr Biden, who is facing the greatest crisis of his presidency, is said to have insisted on recalling troops ahead of the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks and ignored warnings that it would not leave the military with enough time to get US citizens and allies out.

So key decisions were made entirely on the basis of optics, and being able to say "We're out of Afghanistan" in the 9/11 address.

Perfect.

Well-done.

Normzzz.

Speaking to people close to the administration, The Telegraph has managed to build a picture of a stubborn-headed and defensive president continuing to tout his foreign policy nous, and a staff too afraid to question him.

Nous? The part of the tripartite mind concerned with reason?

One former defence official, who is in regular contact with senior White House aides, suggested that there was not much pushback from concerned officials because they were "too afraid".
"People are simply too afraid to tell Biden (and) Jake Sullivan (his National Security Adviser), they're wrong. It's one thing to crack down on leaks (as Mr Biden has done), it's another thing to allow a mistake like this," they told The Telegraph.
"This White House is very disciplined, especially when it comes to leaks and such. But the downside of discipline is if you're running things like an autocracy, and you broker no dissent internally, that's not what the purpose of a White House staff is."

Meanwhile, the White House says it's "considering" extending the August 31st deadline for evacuating all troops from Afghanistan, and the Taliban, for its part, says that extending that deadline will result in "consequences."

NeverTrump just emailed me to say, "The adults are back in charge!"

Meanwhile, the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Association has sent out fresh solicitations for donations and/or underaged boys.

Related: Tucker Carlson notes that Biden's supposed underlings are openly contradicting him and undermining him -- in public, which is unprecedented.

Posted by: Ace at 06:36 PM

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1 Too scared of Joe? I doubt it. Too scared of Jill or Harris? I can believe it.

This administration is a shitshow.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 23, 2021 05:37 PM (jOcSX)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at August 23, 2021 05:38 PM (Y1HNv)

3 You know who else brokered no dissent internally...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 23, 2021 05:38 PM (R/m4+)

4 I don't know if anyone has discussed this but there's a bunch of Florida nurses who said they are refusing to come to work because DeathSanta caused a bunch of uninjected MAGA people to get the virus and then come to the hospitals to beg to be saved. They said there's so many filthy dying MAGA uninjected that they can't stand to do their job anymore.

A little while back a nurse went on the media rounds to make these claims before, that MAGA uninjected were dying and she had to tell them, there was no hope for them, tee hee chuckle chuckle, they were all going to die. Well someone looked her up and found there were no covid cases anywhere near the level she said. She was lying. No fallout, everyone just forgot about it.

What's going on with these nurses? If there's lying again the hammer needs to come down. One they are terrible for politicizing this. And two if they're lying they should lose their jobs.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 05:39 PM (cTK4u)

5 Is the Telegraph sending unsubtle subliminal messages here? Every classicist and philosophy professor I know pronounces 'nous' exactly the same as 'noose'. What he supposedly has (ha!) and what he deserves?

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at August 23, 2021 05:39 PM (y4REw)

6 Nous - Nimrods of unusual size.

Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2021 05:40 PM (Ti+Tv)

7 Who the hell is afraid of puppet Joe?

Nah, that's just a cover story. We all know it's not slowjoe in charge. Just who could it be, hmmm?

Posted by: soulpile at August 23, 2021 05:40 PM (hiX0r)

8 Joe, the truth, you're fucked dude.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 23, 2021 05:40 PM (oWBc3)

9 The trouble with the White House is it has no Play-doh, blankies or safe spaces.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 05:41 PM (guGkK)

10 Are they afraid to ask Joe if he knows his name?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 23, 2021 05:41 PM (cSyAR)

11 I can understand this. When Grampa goes off it's every baby for themselves.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (Xrfse)

12 Top. Men.

Posted by: Jak Sucio / Pronouns: Get Fvcked at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (j/Rnd)

13 In an alternate universe, this was all a ruse to flush the Taliban into the open so we could kill them all.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (yQpMk)

14 Questioning someone with dementia is pointless, along with challenging their lies. They'll either get defensive, make something up to answer your query, or, get mad.

Sullivan, more than likely, is a deep state apparatchick who is always wrong but never in doubt. Plus, it isn't like anyone he cares about will get killed in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (EC2rI)

15 We are living in a real live downfall parody.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (cTK4u)

16 Nous - Nimrods of unusual size.
Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2021 05:40 PM

I don't believe they exist.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (rBtIz)

17 6 Nous - Nimrods of unusual size.
Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2021 05:40 PM (Ti+Tv)

Nazi of unusual stupidity?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (oHd/0)

18 This is just stage 2 of blame shifting.

Posted by: Rusty at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (gtWiK)

19 Meanwhile, the White House says it's "considering" extending the August 31st deadline for evacuating all troops from Afghanistan, and the Taliban, for its part, says that extending that deadline will result in "consequences."

The "consequences" will be an invoice for another pallet of cash to pay for an extension fee. Our first pallet of cash only went so far.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (guGkK)

20 And this is on MSN, one of the supreme Democrat bootlickers in the media. If they're publishing this it means the word has come down from the Democrat leadership: "It's time for Biden to go."

Posted by: Bram Stoker's Chocula at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (CoMmC)

21 They didn't dare approach the Oval Office, lest Sheriff Joe let loose a 12 gauge blast of double-ought right through the office door.

Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (Ti+Tv)

22 Top. Men.
Posted by: Jak Sucio / Pronouns: Get Fvcked at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (j/Rnd)

Bottom. Boys.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (wAnMi)

23 Entre Nous

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (Bmy3R)

24 *grabs White House staffers by the lapels*

You can act like a man!!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (rBtIz)

25 "not much pushback from concerned officials because they were "too afraid""

Afraid of losing their jobs? I never had a job where I cared whether I got fired for telling the truth. Who wants to work for a boss like that anyway? These White House and military assholes, even if fired, are elite enough so they would easily land on their feet. Is it really the kiss-of-career-death to have a resume that says "I got fired by Biden for telling the truth?"

Posted by: gp Fixed His Cap Key at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (qpX6U)

26 What's going on with these nurses?

Too much dancing, not enough nursing.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (Xrfse)

27 Of course they were afraid, he might do to them what he did to Corn Pop.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (v0R5T)

28 Bullshit. They were too afraid to argue with someone with dementia and face the consequences of the media when his handlers attacked.

Posted by: ryukyu at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (4n6fw)

29 We'll never see normal again.

Posted by: Today is bad but tomorrow will be worse at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (gbAdN)

30 Nous - Nimrods of unusual size.

I don't think they exist.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (yQpMk)

31 No different than courts being afraid to rule correctly because the left will burn down their houses, etc.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (iydjf)

32 *to Taliban* C'mon man, play fair!

Posted by: Biden's Brain at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (4I/2K)

33 Joe might shout at them if they contradict him. Poor little darlings have never been told they are wrong in their life.

Posted by: Javems at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (8SSHh)

34 Who could possibly be afraid of Biden?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (NpAcC)

35 Nous? Always the nous!

Posted by: Bubba Wallace at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (63Dwl)

36 Biden, 78, hasn't been right about anything since the doctor slapped him on his wrinkled buttocks 78 years ago.

Posted by: Archer at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (gmo/4)

37 Don't worry. Steiner will come.

Joe

Posted by: Jak Sucio / Pronouns: Get Fvcked at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (j/Rnd)

38 Mr Biden, who is facing the greatest crisis of his presidency

7 months in, and he tops himself about every 3-4 weeks.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (wAnMi)

39 Is it really the kiss-of-career-death to have a resume that says "I got fired by Biden for telling the truth?"
Posted by: gp Fixed His Cap Key at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (qpX6U)

They make a few phone calls an yes, it likely is.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 23, 2021 05:45 PM (jOcSX)

40 "Meanwhile, the White House says it's "considering" extending the August 31st deadline for evacuating all troops from Afghanistan, and the Taliban, for its part, says that extending that deadline will result in "consequences.""
---
Willowed: The military says Puddinhead has to tell them by tomorrow if he intends for everyone to leave by 8/31.

http://bitly.ws/ga5x

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 23, 2021 05:45 PM (sWM8x)

41 Just another trial balloon. What has happened is all by design, from a bunch of traitor scum who are operating as a Wrecking Crew. They aren't leaving any time soon, either.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at August 23, 2021 05:45 PM (cjlB3)

42 Or they were afraid of being challenged to a pushup contest.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2021 05:45 PM (v0R5T)

43 New Neo brought up the possibility underlings might be afraid of setting off Sundowner so no information is better than bad information just to keep him calm.

Posted by: Skip at August 23, 2021 05:45 PM (znIQ9)

44 Who could possibly be afraid of Biden?
Posted by: redridinghood at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (NpAcC)

He's probably right about Hunter being the smartest person he knows.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 23, 2021 05:45 PM (wAnMi)

45 Is it really the kiss-of-career-death to have a resume that says "I got fired by Biden for telling the truth?"

It's not like they could get regular jobs.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (yQpMk)

46 Well, it's obvious they're afraid to tell Kamala too.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (NpAcC)

47 >>>Mr Biden, who is facing the greatest crisis of his presidency

Joe's handler: "Mister President, you really must stop playing "pull my finger". Now let's get you cleaned up".

Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (Ti+Tv)

48 Cicero, don't think you're jesting there.

Zero chance that the predicted substantial cooperation with the evacuation so far was *not* greased with $$$, probably both right now, and assurances/winks on the frozen assets.

And of course the "service fees" on the retail level are being extracted by those providing "secure escort" services to the airport. A few days ago the price was $5-6K.

But hey we conjure trillions of $$ out of thin air now, without pause or thought or concern, so I'm not gonna sweat a few $M in ransom payments.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (OTzUX)

49 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (arJlL)

50 Top. Men.
Posted by: Jak Sucio / Pronouns: Get Fvcked at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (j/Rnd)

Bottom. Boys.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM

Shut 'er down, folks. We're done.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (rBtIz)

51 29 We'll never see normal again.

We had about a 45-60 day window to right this shit after the world came to an end on 3/13/20.

I knew in my gut that if it went on any longer, it would become permanent. And then, we found out there weren't enough Americans left in America to save her.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (Bmy3R)

52 They are afraid to tell Joe the truth because...

Listen fat, if I want your opinion we can arm wrestle for this piece of toilet paper. My gnome is not eating anything for sure. If I don't know what I mean they would be under a brick. Don't you forget that.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (Vxu+H)

53 Meanwhile, the National Man-Boy Lincoln Association has sent out fresh solicitations for donations and/or underaged boys.

-------

"Oh boy, think of all that fresh meat coming over now from Afghanistan -- we're frankly getting tired of all the little Mexican boys.! #InternshipsGalore"

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (ztbw+)

54 What's a good location for a moronastery,?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (cSyAR)

55 Watching S8Ep5 of Columbo, Murder, a Self Portrait.
The killer is an annoying douchebag artist that bangs his wife, ex-wife, and hot young models, who all apparently go along with this arrangement.
Sadly, the ex-wife who gets whacked had a nice rack in her multiple one-piece swimsuit scenes.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (ufFY8)

56 So. The perfumed princes will do anything to hang onto their Whitehouse passes and invites to the best wine and cheese parties.

Assholes.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (axyOa)

57 Yeah, not buying it.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (II3Gr)

58 I'm reading this as part of what I predicted last week: we're starting to see the leaks about Biden's mental health. I figured that they'd start with stories about how he struggled to follow the discussions in briefings, how he was always distracted, confused, etc. This is part of that, IMHO. "He was always getting angry if you brought him information that disagreed with what he believed. It was so unusual because *everyone* knows that Biden is a sooper-genius who always wants to hear every side and isn't afraid of being challenged. Something must be wrong..."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (jOcSX)

59 Afraid of losing their jobs? I never had a job where I cared whether I got fired for telling the truth

*

That's a key point.

You and I will get in tremendous legal and financial trouble if we don't do everything within our ability to make sure best practices are performed.

Government doesn't work that way.

Not a single person has stepped down or been fired, have they?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (b6m9k)

60 Who leaked what and what is the motive behind it?

It's not like journalism is alive.

Posted by: Tommy V at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (GCivW)

61 Who could possibly be afraid of Biden?
Posted by: redridinghood at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (NpAcC)

Isaac Hayes: Biden's a bad mother
Girl Singers: Shut yo mouf!
Isaac Hayes: I'm talkin 'bout Biden
He's a complicated man but no one understands him but his woman (Joe Biden)

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (guGkK)

62 The Emperor With No Clothes needed Miss "That's Retarded, Sir!" as an aide.

Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (KfC1e)

63 >>> Is it really the kiss-of-career-death to have a resume that says "I got fired by Biden for telling the truth?"
Posted by: gp Fixed His Cap Key at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (qpX6U)

They make a few phone calls an yes, it likely is.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 23, 2021 05:45 PM (jOcSX)

I would imagine telling the truth is a career killer for leftists just by itself.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (cTK4u)

64 34 Who could possibly be afraid of Biden?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM (NpAcC)

Well, aside from the prepubescent girl huddled in the corner covering her chest...

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (DTX3h)

65 24 *grabs White House staffers by the lapels*

You can act like a man!!!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

https://youtu.be/7nqcgUDoV_M

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 23, 2021 05:48 PM (QFVV9)

66 Imagine the undetectable level of character and intellect it would take to not challenge a non-entity like Biden and a 4th-rate Beltway mediocrity like Sullivan.

And there you have the idiot children the country decided were just what we needed right now.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 05:48 PM (OTzUX)

67 Fetch me the scapegoat.

Posted by: Eromero at August 23, 2021 05:48 PM (0OP+5)

68 No way this is true. They aren't afraid of Joe - they never see him. The puppet master however....

Posted by: Black JEM at August 23, 2021 05:48 PM (V6xwG)

69 Who could possibly be afraid of Biden?

Little girls. Little boys.

Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2021 05:48 PM (KfC1e)

70 Honestly, who cares about these palace intrigue games? They're all trying to pin the stink on other parties, news at 11.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 23, 2021 05:48 PM (DXFDM)

71 So fire them, as they are highly paid yes-men who serve no purpose.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 23, 2021 05:48 PM (bDqIh)

72 I have a history question. WA is back on its bullshit mask mandate. I want to know, have we ever had something like this or anything "mandated" to us rather than codified into law? Is there precedent? Obviously this will vary by state but i'm interested in any examples. Thank you.

Posted by: Funsize (EiPf6) at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (Jc5GQ)

73 Another fucking stunt by stunted fucks. Everything this Occupation Junta does is designed to protect themselves politically, not protect Americans physically.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (Ndje9)

74 16 Nous - Nimrods of unusual size.
Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2021 05:40 PM

I don't believe they exist.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM

30 Nous - Nimrods of unusual size.

I don't think they exist.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 23, 2021 05:44 PM

Hordemind!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (rBtIz)

75 i always accidentally say NATIONAL Man-Boy Lincoln Association instead of NORTH AMERICAN Man-Boy Lincoln Association.

Posted by: ace at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (0G13K)

76 Biden's only sit-downs in future will be with Whoopie and Joy. They can chat about ice cream.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (EnTaA)

77 From what I understand, the National Security Council does mostly PR work and decisions are only made there when the secretaries of departments go there.

Posted by: Draki at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (hwhW9)

78 We'll get the Kabul Kaka Cocoa situation handled one scoop at a time

Posted by: Preznit Joey B. at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (QzkSJ)

79 As far as I can tell, Inslee has been appointed Emperor for life.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (YynYJ)

80 I'd like to smother David French under a pile of rotting Durian fruit.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (cSyAR)

81 Top. Men.
Posted by: Jak Sucio / Pronouns: Get Fvcked at August 23, 2021 05:42 PM (j/Rnd)

Bottom. Boys.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM

Shut 'er down, folks. We're done.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (rBtIz)

West end girls

Posted by: Archer at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (gmo/4)

82 Who could possibly be afraid of Biden?

All communist leaders are feared. Look at Kim Jong Funyun.

Even figurehead leaders like Briben are feared. The Deep State gets pissed enough at you, you get Epsteined. The POTATUS wouldn't even need to be aware you did anything.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 05:50 PM (Bmy3R)

83 Corn Pop found out what happens when you screw with Joe Biden. It wasn't pretty.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 05:50 PM (guGkK)

84
I would imagine telling the truth is a career killer for leftists just by itself.
Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (cTK4u)

When you have no other ability other than lying, you best not fuck that up.

Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2021 05:50 PM (Ti+Tv)

85 Horrors.

I am beginning to think that Joe Biden IS actually in charge.

There is no puppet-master.

Just the puppet.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 23, 2021 05:50 PM (xopIz)

86 Preznit Mandelbaum?

Posted by: Bosk at August 23, 2021 05:50 PM (yh68b)

87 15. I didn't think of the movie, but that was my first thought too. "Doesn't history say that the german military knew invading Russia would be a mistake, but they didn't speak up because Hitler wanted to do it, and saying something negative about the idea would only paint a target on themselves but not dissuade the madman?"

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at August 23, 2021 05:50 PM (pxVvf)

88 Jake Sullivan has blood on his hands twice now.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (LB3qg)

89 i always accidentally say NATIONAL Man-Boy Lincoln Association instead of NORTH AMERICAN Man-Boy Lincoln Association.

Posted by: ace

*performs seductive dance in the Punjabi style*

Posted by: Justine from Canada at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (QzkSJ)

90
Meanwhile, the White House says it's "considering" extending the August 31st deadline for evacuating all troops from Afghanistan.

Consider all you want, asshats, but you are not the ones calling the shots, are you?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (pNxlR)

91 I would imagine telling the truth is a career killer for leftists just by itself.
Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (cTK4u)

This.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (Bmy3R)

92 Funsize @ 72- anything mandated? Are you serious? Damn near everything done since Andrew Jackson was in office has been un-Constitutional.

Posted by: Eromero at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (0OP+5)

93 "We had about a 45-60 day window to right this shit after the world came to an end on 3/13/20.

I knew in my gut that if it went on any longer, it would become permanent. And then, we found out there weren't enough Americans left in America to save her." - Guy Smiley

Well it was my greatest miscalculation of all time (yes, this is a high standard). I became fairly appalled at Trump's seeming lack of resistance to the make-believe panic "science" after the initial grace period. But I figured the country as a whole would reject The Great Idiocy, over time, and when the National Racist-Totalitarian Street Festival broke out in May, I figured the backlash would grow even yuuuuuger. Um, no.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (OTzUX)

94 "This White House is very disciplined, especially when it comes to leaks and such. But the downside of discipline is if you're running things like an autocracy, and you broker no dissent internally, that's not what the purpose of a White House staff is."

That's not discipline. That's being a court eunuch.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (ZsR3z)

95 All the good nous jokes taken?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (z4k8L)

96 Just the puppet.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 23, 2021 05:50 PM (xopIz)

Yeah, I think quite a few of us have gone to that dark place the past few days.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (wAnMi)

97 Jake Sullivan worked for Hillary at State before becoming VP Biden;s Nationion Security advisor. Was he also taking orders from Hillary on Afghanistan and that's why no one wants to cross him?

And what about Susan Rice, where is she in all this as she's got more experience that Jake Sullivan -- is she blameless, or are we all just going along with this obvious move to use Afghanistan to out Biden and his key appointments to make way for the Harris presidency?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (bDqIh)

98 I'm guessing the talis will whack off a few American heads on camera, and then tptb will pay the talis $5 million per live one, and at a guesstimated 5k hostages, that's $25 billion or so for the tali bankroll.

Not a bad month's work.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (F0YaR)

99 >Posted by: ace at August 23, 2021 05:49 PM (0G13K)

I wouldn't count lack of familiarity with what "NAMBLA" means to be a strike against you, but maybe that's just me.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 23, 2021 05:51 PM (DXFDM)

100 If I were on the WH secret service detail, I'd already be in jail awaiting trial.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 23, 2021 05:52 PM (Fs5vw)

101 There is no puppet-master.

Just the puppet.
Posted by: JAS,

A New Age Of McCarthyism.

Charlie, that is

Posted by: Miklos, now pull the other one at August 23, 2021 05:52 PM (QzkSJ)

102 What's a good location for a moronastery,?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM

Peruvia or Alextopia would be ideal.

Or perhaps Montana.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:52 PM (rBtIz)

103 This White House is very disciplined, especially when it comes to leaks and such.

Including Joe's diaper?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 23, 2021 05:52 PM (cSyAR)

104 I know people will die because of the decisions the Biden administration, mainly Biden, have made. The up side is the idiots who voted for this inept individual will realize how big they fucked up.

Posted by: Redenzo at August 23, 2021 05:52 PM (E7vND)

105 " i always accidentally say NATIONAL Man-Boy Lincoln Association instead of NORTH AMERICAN Man-Boy Lincoln Association. "

No yellow though.

Posted by: Bunter Hiden at August 23, 2021 05:52 PM (yh68b)

106 The only people in the White House who're afraid of Biden, might be the occasional 11 y/o girl who's there as a part of a group or tour or such.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 23, 2021 05:53 PM (QzJWU)

107 I don't know if there was ever anything passed to allow Inslee to do this forever. All that comes from Olympia and we aren't allowed to know what happens there.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 23, 2021 05:53 PM (YynYJ)

108 Court whipping boy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 05:53 PM (z4k8L)

109 Meanwhile, the White House says it's "considering" extending the August 31st deadline for evacuating all troops from Afghanistan.

Another twenty years, Joe?

Posted by: Endless Wars, Inc. at August 23, 2021 05:53 PM (JioHo)

110 The real danger comes when legal cases start getting upheld by SCOTUS.

Then you have precedent for all Dem emergencies. SCOTUS will uphold state power.

Posted by: I guess I'll tell them at August 23, 2021 05:53 PM (OOzMR)

111 Biden is not POTUS..... I do not know who POTUS really is right now ????

Posted by: James at August 23, 2021 05:53 PM (24+Vp)

112 Horrors.

I am beginning to think that Joe Biden IS actually in charge.

There is no puppet-master.

Just the puppet.

Hmmmm. **Contemplates the metaphyics of your statement**

What is the sound of one hand jerking?

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 05:54 PM (ZsR3z)

113 What's a good location for a moronastery,?

South or North Dakota, maybe Nebraska. You want some place cold enough to keep the Leftist riff raff out.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 23, 2021 05:54 PM (YynYJ)

114 PaleRider, Goebbels' diary records the pin-drop silence in Berlin and elsewhere on June 22 after the morning announcement of the attack on the USSR. The populace knew or sensed that the last few years of easy victories now might morph into calamity.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 05:54 PM (OTzUX)

115 From the people who released 200 Gitmo inmates to continue terrorizing...

[Cabinet] Ministers today revealed people on the UK's terror 'no fly list' have already tried to infiltrate RAF flights in Kabul -- amid fears of an ISIS suicide bomb attack.

Alarm has been raised that troops are 'having to keep their fingers on the trigger in one hand while holding a baby in the other' with desperate crowds trying to get away from the Taliban.

Defence minister James Heappey insisted there are 'people trying to take advantage of this process to get into the UK to cause us harm'.

Posted by: dave fwench conducting same-sex transactional sex at August 23, 2021 05:54 PM (UHVv4)

116 The up side is the idiots who voted for this inept individual will realize how big they fucked up.
====

I wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at August 23, 2021 05:54 PM (iydjf)

117 Tucker Carlson notes that Biden's supposed underlings are openly contradicting him and undermining him -- in public, which is unprecedented.

For a Democrat? Sure.

For a Republican president, that's SOP.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (2JVJo)

118 Spanakopida!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (z4k8L)

119 All the good nous jokes taken?

Why? Do you have something nous?

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (ZsR3z)

120 And what about Susan Rice, where is she in all this

Blinken and Sullivan worked for her, so I'm guessing right behind the curtain.

Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (JioHo)

121 Stranded definition; ...left without means to move somewhere.

Posted by: Redenzo at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (E7vND)

122 @PhilipWegmann 4 min

We will hear from the president again. White House announces Biden will deliver remarks "on our ongoing efforts in Afghanistan" tomorrow at noon.

Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (cF8AT)

123 93 But I figured the country as a whole would reject The Great Idiocy, over time, and when the National Racist-Totalitarian Street Festival broke out in May, I figured the backlash would grow even yuuuuuger. Um, no.

Yep. Pretty much my thinking at the time. The NRTSF's broke out about 60 days later, right at the end of my hoped-I-was-wrong timeline, and that should have been the final straw for Team Reality. But, no.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (Bmy3R)

124 yeah, my dad is kinda out there

but he's not so fucking gone that he doesn't know I could destroy his whole bullshit legacy with just few email leaks

and he knows damn well that I'm just the kinda scumbag that would do that to his own dad

in a fucking nanosec

Posted by: HUNTER at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (uCLWI)

125 Horrors.

I am beginning to think that Joe Biden IS actually in charge.

There is no puppet-master.

Just the puppet.

https://tinyurl.com/yxta6nmj

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM (guGkK)

126 @90 yeah but they also have a sternly worded letter to the taliban in the making

Posted by: Rusty at August 23, 2021 05:56 PM (gtWiK)

127 Just between nous, I can't think of any.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 05:56 PM (Bmy3R)

128 They were afraid of the guy who kept telling everyone that he would get into trouble with his minders? I would say they were afraid to tell him the truth in case he spilled the beans.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 23, 2021 05:56 PM (RMGKK)

129 Something must be wrong..."
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (jOcSX)

Call me crazy, but I think they're prepping for the possibility of mass casualties. When that happens (and I hope it doesn't) its a little too late to start asking if maybe the guy is brain damaged. Might as well start now.

Posted by: joefl65 at August 23, 2021 05:56 PM (FcrV3)

130 I haven't been required of but I am willing to lose my job to avoid taking the killshot. I hope it won't come to that but I believe this is definitely the hill to die on.

It dismays me though to see so many RINOs *cough*Noem*cough* favor business rights over the rights of the individual and think this is a conservative position, and just glibly dismiss people who worry about their livelihoods by saying they can easily find another job.

To those who say business have the right to- let me stop you right there. Businesses who act as state operators doing the government's bidding have boink all rights. Full stop.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 23, 2021 05:56 PM (hQVBP)

131 Spanakopida!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM

*looks at dinner*

No. Horiatiki salata.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:56 PM (rBtIz)

132 He's a complicated man but no one understands him but little girls on stage for swearing-in ceremonies (Joe Biden)

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 23, 2021 05:56 PM (Ndje9)

133 "The up side is the idiots who voted for this inept individual will realize how big they fucked up."

Rated = NOT true

Seriously. We didn't get here by being - still - the country that threw out Carter. The Trump speed bump showed that much of the country remains sensible, but clearly not enough. It's not just hollowed out rotted institutions.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (OTzUX)

134 PaleRider, Goebbels' diary records the pin-drop silence in Berlin and elsewhere on June 22 after the morning announcement of the attack on the USSR. The populace knew or sensed that the last few years of easy victories now might morph into calamity.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 05:54 PM (OTzUX)

In Shirer's Rise and Fall he noted that after the attack on Poland was declared, he watched a military parade roll through the center of Berlin and saw the people either ignore it or duck into shops so they wouldn't have to acknowledge it. They didn't want another war.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (2JVJo)

135 From previous thread re covid billionaires

I see that only a couple of people became billionaires from vaccines, instead of selling masks, etc.

Also ... those couple of people are billionaires on paper, by virtue of their stock holdings and options therefor. I.e., they're paper billionaires.

So I remain skeptical. Sure, the vaccine is the flavor of the month, but ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (YqDXo)

136 39 Is it really the kiss-of-career-death to have a resume that says "I got fired by Biden for telling the truth?"
Posted by: gp Fixed His Cap Key at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (qpX6U)

Yes. There is no winning outcome.
If your boss is about to make a mistake, and he is the kind of ass who (a) think he knows it all so will not listen, and (b) will get angry at you for contradicting him,

The DC establishment was fully behind biden. If you told him not to do something you would be exiled from the DC establishment. Even if you were proven correct, it is too late since if you were more capable you could have prevented it and clearly you knew disaster was coming. It is no win.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (HrpuA)

137 BTW, I expect a blowjob from everyone who read #115!

Posted by: dave fwench conducting same-sex transactional sex at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (UHVv4)

138 And what about Susan Rice, where is she in all this as she's got more experience that Jake Sullivan
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Yeah, I haven't seen the bitch anywhere lately. Is she hiding?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (sWM8x)

139 101 There is no puppet-master.

Just the puppet.

That's a terrific line. Sounds like song lyric or a line from a movie.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (Bmy3R)

140 We will hear from the president again. White House announces Biden will deliver remarks "on our ongoing efforts in Afghanistan" tomorrow at noon.

He's clearly aping the daily pressers that Trump did with Covid. The difference is that Trump stood there and went mano a mano with a hostile press corps for hours, until people said "enough". This will not end well for Biden.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (ZsR3z)

141 An unrelated thought experiment if you're so inclined?
(math ahead)

1000 members of the horde are really really really opposed to The Shot. I'm number 814 btw. really

How many will ultimately cave in to their employers if its mandated to keep their job?

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (cknjq)

142 Off transactional cuck sock.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (UHVv4)

143 My question: why the f^*k do they want a Harris President so badly *now*? If they can limp Sloe Joe along a bit more, they can have Camela-toe another 8 years.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (7Fj9P)

144 It is amusing to have adults claim that they contributed to the deaths of hundreds, maybe thousands, and a possible death of many soldiers and offer the excuse that they were afraid of a senile old man.

You just made yourself look worse than Biden, in your story he didn't know the facts and you did.

But in reality, this story is a lie, the confirmers/deniers are all lying too, and the press itself is lying on top of that.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (eoQWY)

145 PS: they're not making money from selling the vaccine, itself, but profiting from expectations of vaccine sales.

Totally different.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (YqDXo)

146 113 What's a good location for a moronastery,?

South or North Dakota, maybe Nebraska. You want some place cold enough to keep the Leftist riff raff out.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 23, 2021 05:54 PM (YynYJ)

That ain't working so well for MN.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (F0YaR)

147 This is the best lie that they could come up with? China Joe isn't getting his money's worth from his dipshit staff.

Posted by: Unkaren at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (vGJY7)

148 i always accidentally say NATIONAL Man-Boy Lincoln Association instead of NORTH AMERICAN Man-Boy Lincoln Association.

Posted by: ace

How did Lincoln's name get dragged into that ?

Isn't it enough that he was shot ?

Posted by: JT at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (arJlL)

149 and he knows damn well that I'm just the kinda scumbag that would do that to his own dad

in a fucking nanosec
Posted by: HUNTER at August 23, 2021 05:55 PM

*adopts Ted Knight voice*

Well?! We're waiting!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (rBtIz)

150 > The Emperor With No Clothes needed Miss "That's Retarded, Sir!" as an aide.
Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (KfC1e)

memento mori?

For Biden:
glacies crepito liquesci

Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (cTK4u)

151 PaleRider, Goebbels' diary records the pin-drop silence in Berlin and elsewhere on June 22 after the morning announcement of the attack on the USSR. The populace knew or sensed that the last few years of easy victories now might morph into calamity.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 05:54 PM (OTzUX)

The French/Brit declaration of war after the invasion of Poland didn't go over so well with Berliners either.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (guGkK)

152 They were "too scared" to tell Biden and National Security Soiboi Jake Sullivan

Bridges for sale, step right up and get 'em cheap.
Cheap bridges; tall one's, short one's, big round one's, step right up and get a bridge.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 05:59 PM (eOrYG)

153 Why don't we just give the Taliban tactical nukes also uncle Joe.... I mean WTF Why not ?????

Posted by: James at August 23, 2021 05:59 PM (24+Vp)

154 117 @MPPP, you are right. We spent the past 4 years with the President's underlings undermining him and disagreeing in public constantly, sometimes even at the same podium.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 05:59 PM (BMmaB)

155 They consider this as the greatest crisis of Biden's presidency? I'm sure this imbecile is capable of even greater feats of destruction.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 23, 2021 05:59 PM (RMGKK)

156 148 How did Lincoln's name get dragged into that ?

The pompous blowhards actually thought they were "saving the union" just like Big A.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:00 PM (Bmy3R)

157 They would and did fuck over Trump in a NY minute but they were afraid of Biden.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 06:00 PM (eOrYG)

158 Amazing how many rats are hitting the water just now.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 23, 2021 06:00 PM (7X3UV)

159 Biden is the ventriloquist's dummy who decided that he was good enough to make it on his own.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 06:00 PM (guGkK)

160 He's a complicated man but no one understands him but little girls on stage for swearing-in ceremonies (Joe Biden)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 23, 2021 05:56 PM

Shut yo mouf!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 06:00 PM (rBtIz)

161 It's funny how now it's good strategy to crack down on White House and government leaks. I remember a time when it was patriotic. Our elites are garbage.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 23, 2021 06:00 PM (RMGKK)

162 Couldn't someone have just withheld Biden's ice cream to make sure he listens?

Oh, wait. That's not how any of this works. The Daily Ice Cream Dosage actually makes his brain work better.

In conclusion the US is still f***ed.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 23, 2021 06:00 PM (aXxgO)

163 >> I.e., they're paper billionaires.

Isn't that true for most of 'em. Bezos doubles his wealth thanks to the lockdowns of 2020, pushing $200B. Isn't most of that on paper?

Same with Bill Gates, I'm sure.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 23, 2021 06:01 PM (Mzdiz)

164 Oh what a bunch of horseshit. I don't believe for a minute it has to do with incompetence or anything else other than the don't give a shit plain and simple. We don't call these dickheads the party of death for nothing. These assholes want to abort babies right up until birth, what makes you think they give a shit about people left behind in Afghanistan?

Looks bad optically? Blame Trump, their dumbf**k constituency will lap it up.

Posted by: JROD at August 23, 2021 06:01 PM (0jZnq)

165 161 It's funny how now it's good strategy to crack down on White House and government leaks. I remember a time when it was patriotic. Our elites are garbage.
====

We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration!!

Unless it's a Democrat.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (iydjf)

166 This White House is "discipline" - LOL.

Biggest kinetic foreign policy crisis in decades - and the "president" AND spokesman AND senior officials of relevant agencies are invisible/silent/unavailable, for hours, to DAYS.

Nothing this absurd has ever happened in my life time. It's the same sub-lightweights and non-entities staffing this trainwreck as the Obama years, but now they don't even bother to go through the motions at times. And despite the tiny, belated, wimpy imitation of an actual press by the "press" the last week, this WH still has nothing to fear.

There is no press, and at least half, or more, of the country is so, so, so dumbed down that this group of retards can do anything they want and it doesn't matter.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (OTzUX)

167 Biden is the ventriloquist's dummy who decided that he was good enough to make it on his own.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 06:00 PM (guGkK)

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He has always had delusions of competence.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (RMGKK)

168 But during Trump's Presidency, Generals and Pentagon leaders were openly plotting their coup.

But too scared to even schedule a meeting with Biden to give him some advice.

They know the media will always cover for them if they are loyal to the right team.

Funny how scared the people we put in charge of national security are of "blue check marks". I'm sure they'll be brave in the face of real war.

Posted by: Blago at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (/4WeQ)

169 >>Call me crazy, but I think they're prepping for the possibility of mass casualties. When that happens (and I hope it doesn't) its a little too late to start asking if maybe the guy is brain damaged. Might as well start now.

Geez, that sounds about right.
What an epix cluster f$#@.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (bDqIh)

170 In Shirer's Rise and Fall he noted that after the attack on Poland was declared, he watched a military parade roll through the center of Berlin and saw the people either ignore it or duck into shops so they wouldn't have to acknowledge it. They didn't want another war.

It's all fun and games until s*** gets real.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (ZsR3z)

171 Oh man, my coffee was perfect temperature to chug and now I got a coffee buzz.

I fear I am building up a resistance to coffee, though. Is that a thing?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (HrpuA)

172 147 This is the best lie that they could come up with? China Joe isn't getting his money's worth from his dipshit staff.

Posted by: Unkaren at August 23, 2021 05:58 PM (vGJY7)
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Prep to rid themselves of him and install a leader we'll all love.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (eOrYG)

173 He thinks he's a real boy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 06:03 PM (z4k8L)

174 This story is CYA from the ranks.

They have chosen a scapegoat.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 23, 2021 06:03 PM (HrpuA)

175 Too scared of Joe? I doubt it. Too scared of Jill or Harris? I can believe it.

This administration is a shitshow.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 23, 2021 05:37 PM (jOcSX)

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And ostensibly Jake Sullivan, a mere advisor.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 23, 2021 06:03 PM (RMGKK)

176 Joe's peace partners.

Jerry Dunleavy
@JerryDunleavy
Taliban spokesman: "It's a red line. President Biden announced that on 31 August they would withdraw all their military forces... If the U.S. or U.K. were to seek additional time to continue evacuations - the answer is no. Or there would be consequences."

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It is well to remember that foreign policy is Joe's specialty. You can't expect him to live up to these high standard on all issues he may face as president.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 23, 2021 06:03 PM (d9FiS)

177
Sources say, "Turnabout is fair play."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:04 PM (ro5Z0)

178 Joe Biden, a nose for nous.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 23, 2021 06:04 PM (d9FiS)

179 I fear I am building up a resistance to coffee, though. Is that a thing?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (HrpuA)
.......

You'll just keep taking larger doses until you O.D.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2021 06:04 PM (v0R5T)

180 The pompous blowhards actually thought they were "saving the union" just like Big A.

**rolls eyes**

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:04 PM (ZsR3z)

181 You can build up a tolerance to any drug.
-John Wayne smoking five packs a day of non filters on the set of the Alamo

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 06:05 PM (z4k8L)

182 There is no press, and at least half, or more, of the country is so, so, so dumbed down that this group of retards can do anything they want and it doesn't matter.

OTOH, we'll never run out of batteries.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:05 PM (ZsR3z)

183 I finished Operation Barbarossa by David Stahel a few weeks ago. If you want a very thorough account of the attitudes of the German general staff and the field commanders to the idea of invading the Soviet Union, there's your book.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 06:05 PM (guGkK)

184 Shut yo mouf!

But I'm talkin' 'bout Der NippleFuhrer!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 23, 2021 06:05 PM (Ndje9)

185 Cicero, correct, and I think Goebbels talked about that, too (his diary is quite the historical resource). But the jitters in May '40 of course quickly morphed into euphoria over a quick/easy victory - a large part of it was relief, AND a belief that "OK, that's it, we're done, no more war". The Phony War was a holding pattern. But June 22 '41 was very different.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (OTzUX)

186 They have chosen a scapegoat.

Is it a large and moving Torb?

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (ZsR3z)

187 Don't worry, America. We're on the phone with Jimmy Carter now. He'll know what to do.

Posted by: Team Biden at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (aXxgO)

188 >>This White House is very disciplined, especially when it comes to leaks and such.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE JACK POSOBIEC IS TWEETING WH LEAKS ALL THE DANG TIME -- AND UNLIKE MOST OF THE TRUMP ADMIN LEAKS, THESE ONES ARE TRUE. THEY'RE SCOOPS.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBER at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (bDqIh)

189 I'd be moar ascared of choking on the cocks that are not depositing stuff in my mouth.

Posted by: WH Staffer identifies as _____. at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (/jOfA)

190 There is just no point for me to come to Ace anymore. All you do is link to twitter. I've been banned from twitter for saying we should have killed the Taliban when we had the chance.

Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (7PzLn)

191 There is just no point for me to come to Ace anymore.

Write if you get work.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (ZsR3z)

192 There is no press, and at least half, or more, of the country is so, so, so dumbed down that this group of retards can do anything they want and it doesn't matter. Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:02 PM (OTzUX)

@rhomboid, I'm more optimistic than that. We're only 7 months in. I think he and his successor have a lot more to screw up, things that we can't even imagine, so much so that the reality of the incompetence will break through to become common knowledge.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (BMmaB)

193 When Ollie was in Nam he would wake up some of his buddies in the middle of the night and they would go out for a walk.

Beneficial and rewarding walks.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (eOrYG)

194 "84
I would imagine telling the truth is a career killer for leftists just by itself.
Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (cTK4u)

When you have no other ability other than lying, you best not fuck that up.

Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2021 05:50 PM (Ti+Tv) "

and the Father of Lies has got zero sense of humor.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (YjYuE) at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (YjYuE)

195 @190 bye Felicia

Posted by: blaster at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (mbFEM)

196 So, The Tolly-bon holds American hostages incommunicado starting now, (probably already have been) so they can't fill out the online form asking to be evacuated (that's if they even have power/internet) until midnight 09/01 and then when the beheadings begin, The Usurper's administration says "Well, we said over and over that anyone who wanted to come home, we'd get them home. Those people didn't want to come home."

That how this is gonna work?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (Bmy3R)

197 You can act like a man!!!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 05:43 PM (rBtIz)

We are not Men. We are ... Devo!

Posted by: Fox2! at August 23, 2021 06:08 PM (zoiGB)

198
Alt history: we don't send Stalin any Lend-Lease. What happens?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:09 PM (/U27+)

199 probably thought they might get fingered if they upset him

Posted by: elcid at August 23, 2021 06:09 PM (NXoZV)

200 You can act like a man!!!!!

Women and children can afford to be careless, but not men.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:09 PM (ZsR3z)

201 "There is just no point for me to come to Ace anymore."

You'll be missed!

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:09 PM (OTzUX)

202 I don't believe anyone is afraid of that mush-brained jackass. This is a really pathetic cover story for ineptly carrying out an agenda that does not have this country's best interest as its goal.

They already don't care how bad their lies sound they certainly don't care how bad their after-the-fact excuses sound.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 06:09 PM (cTK4u)

203 I think he and his successor have a lot more to screw up, things that we can't even imagine, so much so that the reality of the incompetence will break through to become common knowledge.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (BMmaB)

Yes but will waking up also entail policing up the mess left behind? Will what is left be fixable?

Here I was trying to be less DOOMy today

Posted by: blaster at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM (mbFEM)

204 Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (7PzLn)

Wait! Where are you going?

I was going to make espresso!

Posted by: The Blind Hermit at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM (guGkK)

205 Alt history: we don't send Stalin any Lend-Lease. What happens?

Short version? A new dark age.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM (ZsR3z)

206 I am the Egg-Man

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM (Bmy3R)

207 If our evac unit is not good enough we should hire the French. They are doing a good job getting their people out.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM (eOrYG)

208 >>i always accidentally say NATIONAL Man-Boy Lincoln Association instead of NORTH AMERICAN Man-Boy Lincoln Association.

Posted by: ace

It all comes out the same in the end.

Posted by: Harry Reid at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM (HQ9Sl)

209 Is that what you infidels call a flounce?

Posted by: Achmed the Rescue Camel at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM (Xrfse)

210 Wait! Where are you going?

I was going to make espresso!

Damn, I missed that one and it was so obvious.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (ZsR3z)

211 By this time tomorrow, it will be a MAGA conspiracy theory that the withdrawal from Afghanistan is anything other than a total success.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (GbPPJ)

212 Women and children can afford to be careless, but not men.
Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:09 PM

*nods sagely*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (rBtIz)

213 Eromero, i appreciate it, its been a minute since formal history classes. I could have, you kbow, googled it, but always appreciate a hordemind touch.

Posted by: Funsize (EiPf6) at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (Jc5GQ)

214 A Clintonian would confidently know that "stranded" means left on a beach.

'Abandoned', on the other hand, might be more difficult.

Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (3fR4G)

215 Hiring millennials has consequences.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (4fSQf)

216 The French are champs at retreating. That does figure.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (Bmy3R)

217 Biden is not going anywhere until it all goes completely to shit. That is the only way the public will see a miserable failure like a President Kamalala Harris as an improvement.

The only problem is that it is all going to shit. Badly, completely, utterly.

Posted by: rd at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (Z32m1)

218 They were afraid of Biden but regularly defied Trump with impunity?

Why?

Posted by: President Ford at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (EZebt)

219 Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (Bmy3R)
---
This is what I'm afraid will happen.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (sWM8x)

220 "The Telegraph has managed to build a picture of a stubborn-headed and defensive president continuing to tout his foreign policy nous, and a staff too afraid to question him."

Whoa whoa whoa! The President is involved with a noose? "Foreign policy" sounds like code for brown people. Time to take this racist down!

Posted by: FBI at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (GYBGn)

221 212 Women and children can afford to be careless, but not men.
Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:09 PM

Godfather quote?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (4fSQf)

222 If our evac unit is not good enough we should hire the French. They are doing a good job getting their people out.

I applaud the French, but to be fair, a large part of their success is that the TB just doesn't care about them.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (ZsR3z)

223
Godfather quote?

Yes.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:12 PM (ZsR3z)

224 I am the walrus.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2021 06:12 PM (U2p+3)

225
Look at the line of succession

VP: Harris
Speaker: San Fran Nan
President Pro Tem: Leahy, who's been in the Senate since 1975
Secretary of State: Blinken, architect of catastrophe

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:12 PM (/U27+)

226 Wait! Where are you going?

I was going to make espresso!
Posted by: The Blind Hermit at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM

I love this place.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2021 06:13 PM (rBtIz)

227 Red line?? That fucker stole my move!

Posted by: jerry obama at August 23, 2021 06:13 PM (UHVv4)

228 >>We will hear from the president again. White House announces Biden will deliver remarks "on our ongoing efforts in Afghanistan" tomorrow at noon.
Posted by: Tami

DC must be close to running out of meth by now.

Posted by: Aviator at August 23, 2021 06:13 PM (HQ9Sl)

229 "153 Why don't we just give the Taliban tactical nukes also uncle Joe.... I mean WTF Why not ?????
Posted by: James at August 23, 2021 05:59 PM (24+Vp) "

are you really sure we didn't ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (YjYuE) at August 23, 2021 06:13 PM (YjYuE)

230 Look at the line of succession

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Achmed the Rescue Camel at August 23, 2021 06:13 PM (Xrfse)

231 Help me out

I can't figure this out--on the one hand the MSM is attempting to make it seem like Joe, far from suffering dementia, is indeed the one calling ALL the shots.

Therefore, Joe is a strong leader who is fully in command.

On the other hand, the MSM is attempting to make it seem like Joe is fully in charge and is FUCKING things up and needs to make way for MADAM President!

Posted by: JoeF. at August 23, 2021 06:13 PM (mR6Gs)

232 How many will ultimately cave in to their employers if its mandated to keep their job?
Posted by: weirdflunky at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (cknjq)

For the record, I don't care if anyone else gets the shot, however leery I happen to be of it. Nor am i in a position to have to worry about keeping a job. (Or feed children, or make a mortgage payment, car payment, etc)

But I walked off a job when i did need one over not wanting a flu shot, so I can say unequivocally that yes, I'd tell an employer to pound sand over their Spike Protein Shake.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 23, 2021 06:14 PM (61wsH)

233
"So, nu?!"

- - My Yiddische Bubbe and Zaydeh

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 23, 2021 06:14 PM (s2VJv)

234 Caesar, um, might want to check your definition of "optimistic". And hey, I'm the one around here who always points out that "it's only X months into this!".

And the import of that is very very dark, not optimistic.

I don't see any superficial nominal political "backlash" as necessarily of *any* value, not any more. And not just because the GOP.

I really don't care about personalities or parties - at all - but I do (did?) care about reality and policy and results. And none (none) of the major areas of damage being inflicted by these idiots will be affected - in the slightest - by ANY "political" backlash.

These areas are, rightly or as a consequence of constitutional derailment over decades, pretty much exclusively under the discretion of the executive - and, as in illegal mass migration, the failsafe that is always there for the vandals to use is simply failing to enforce laws or policies, a technique for which our system has literally no remedy, or partial remedy.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:14 PM (OTzUX)

235 @bananadream and others, a world based on unreality can go on a long time. Look at the USSR, the core principle of which was complete nonsense. It had an 80-year run. So I'm not sanguine about the capability of the leftists' bizarro world to persist for some time to come, but at some point reality is reality and can't be ignored. The oceans aren't boiling, men can't give birth, and you can't print money without consequences. There are bad people out there who want to hurt us. The average American will eventually come to realize that these people can't be close to power, ever again.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:14 PM (BMmaB)

236 Until Afghanistan is over in the short term Sundowner isn't out of the clear. This has potential after whatever deadline to get real ugly.
Won't be years until the arming of Islam result is known.

Posted by: Skip at August 23, 2021 06:14 PM (znIQ9)

237 211 By this time tomorrow, it will be a MAGA conspiracy theory that the withdrawal from Afghanistan is anything other than a total success.

Absolutely. I can guaran-goddam-tee that 6 months from now if I mention to the people falling off airplanes, even show them the pictures, The Pod Peoplle will reply:

"That's not real! WHERE do you crazy MAGA wingnuts GET this stuff? FOX NEWS???"

The pictures? They'll just say Alex Jones or Q-Anon or the all-powerful FOX NEWS photoshopped them.

(for the record, I cut the cable 7 years ago. I get NOTHING from Fox News.)

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:15 PM (Bmy3R)

238 222 If our evac unit is not good enough we should hire the French. They are doing a good job getting their people out.

I applaud the French, but to be fair, a large part of their success is that the TB just doesn't care about them.
Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (ZsR3z)

Dien Bien "nous"...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 23, 2021 06:15 PM (s2VJv)

239 "People are simply too afraid to tell Biden (and) Jake Sullivan (his National Security Adviser), they're wrong. It's one thing to crack down on leaks (as Mr Biden has done), it's another thing to allow a mistake like this," they told The Telegraph.

"This White House is very disciplined, especially when it comes to leaks and such.

I've read that late in WWII when we had captured a fair few Nazi leaders, our top intel guys were very eager to interview them to gain insight into how things happened, how to defeat them, etc.

Apparently, the intel guys were surprised and distressed to discover they were unintelligent, boring, reliable yes-men. The Nazis were very much a top-down org that had fairly bright (not incredibly bright, but fairly bright) guys at the very top, and most of the rest were not.

In that sense, we're even worse off than they were. The guys at the top of Biden's heap ain't bright, and their underlings are yes-men.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2021 06:15 PM (UW2ZS)

240 Look at the line of succession

VP: Harris
Speaker: San Fran Nan
President Pro Tem: Leahy, who's been in the Senate since 1975
Secretary of State: Blinken, architect of catastrophe
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:12 PM (/U27+)

Second look at just installing a princeps?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 06:15 PM (guGkK)

241 Not one of the oh so mistreated super duper patriots in DoD or DoJ or State or or or has stood up and called bs on all this.

Not even the ones who are already set for life on DotGov pensions when they leave.

Not one.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 23, 2021 06:15 PM (cknjq)

242 Look at the line of succession

VP: Harris
Speaker: San Fran Nan
President Pro Tem: Leahy, who's been in the Senate since 1975
Secretary of State: Blinken, architect of catastrophe
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:12 PM (/U27+)

You stupid cocksuckers, WAS IT WORTH it? Cheating to get rid of Trump because he was making you look stupid?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 23, 2021 06:15 PM (mR6Gs)

243 If you say something that enrages Joe tell him your name is Joe Biden.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 23, 2021 06:16 PM (cSyAR)

244
Apparently, the intel guys were surprised and distressed to discover they were unintelligent, boring, reliable yes-men.�

_________

A guard at Nuremberg said, "Who knew we were fighting a bunch of idiots?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:16 PM (/U27+)

245 Too afraid? Too fucking afraid? Maybe flipping burgers or running groceries across a scanner would be more in line with your sensitive sensibilities.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at August 23, 2021 06:16 PM (OX9vb)

246 JoeF.: "...on the one hand the MSM is attempting to make it seem like Joe, far from suffering dementia, is indeed the one calling ALL the shots.
[...]
On the other hand, the MSM is attempting to make it seem like Joe is fully in charge and is FUCKING things up and needs to make way for MADAM President!"

Which do you want to hear? We will throw any spaghetti that will stick.

Posted by: The MFM at August 23, 2021 06:17 PM (aXxgO)

247 I don't see this mentioned, but I think a big part of the blowback against biden is

a - a lot of those trapped in a-stan are reporters and NGO idiots, or people with connections who got big money deals to provide services. They are afraid, and they have connections.

b - this also applies to our allies. Suddenly they are being mugged by the reality that biden is shit. Now their press, and public, is angry and scared. They report that biden is shit, and that gives the OK to US newspeople to say the same.

c. biden really never had any friends. They picked him because he was easy to control, but CIC is one of the few areas where his power is absolute.

d. finally, all these people from the reporters, or NGOs, or military, or WH staff -- all of them are guilty. They have blood on their hands, and fear they will soon have a lot more. people facing reality look for someone to scapegoat.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 23, 2021 06:17 PM (HrpuA)

248 Well Biden literally told a reporter who was pestering him about Afghanistan, that he only wanted to talk about happy things.

So the delusions start with The Meat Puppet.

Posted by: Thomas Bender, 25 years until the next Tool album. at August 23, 2021 06:17 PM (t+dDY)

249 I thought the point of acr was, in no order:
Shit posting
Boobs
.45
Bats and puppies.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 06:18 PM (z4k8L)

250 >>> There is just no point for me to come to Ace anymore. All you do is link to twitter. I've been banned from twitter for saying we should have killed the Taliban when we had the chance.
Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (7PzLn)

The following is not snark I promise, do this it's simple: don't click the links.

If you do that then think about it this way, Ace is stealing their content, we're discussing it, there is no reason for us to ever give twitter any eyes. Maybe Ace is making it all up, we won't know if we don't click the links and check! You will never regret not checking the links. I guarantee you. And if Ace started making it all up it would be an improvement.

Now the funny critter stuff and the people fall down go boom stuff is more of a problem. You often have to go to the twitter source. Sometimes it's chicom's tiktok and not twitter. But the meat&potatos stuff of the day Ace fully covers and you don't have to click the links.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 06:18 PM (cTK4u)

251 Look at the USSR, the core principle of which was complete nonsense. It had an 80-year run. So I'm not sanguine about the capability of the leftists' bizarro world to persist for some time to come, but at some point reality is reality and can't be ignored. The oceans aren't boiling, men can't give birth, and you can't print money without consequences. There are bad people out there who want to hurt us. The average American will eventually come to realize that these people can't be close to power, ever again.

For some reason, a scene from Empire of the Sun came to mind. The Japs are expected in Shanghai, the Brits have run away, and the little boy who got separated from his parents returns to his house, to find the staff looting it. He rebukes them, but instead of tugging the forelock as they did in the past, one of them walks up and slaps him. The mystique was gone. They no longer feared him and what he represented. We're close to that now, even if the Chinese are grossly underestimating our will to fight back.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:18 PM (ZsR3z)

252 You stupid cocksuckers, WAS IT WORTH it? Cheating to get rid of Trump because he was making you look stupid?

Thank you! *hic* Yes.

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at August 23, 2021 06:18 PM (Xrfse)

253
Just saw this: FDA approval now requires Pfizer to submit study results analyzing risk of myocarditis and pericarditis and to long term infant development in pregnant women.

Study results will submitted to the FDA on Oct 31, 2025, and May 31st, 2027.

As I saw someone quip, living in the crazy world feels like you're the designated driver surrounded by a bunch of shit-faced drunks.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 23, 2021 06:18 PM (Mzdiz)

254 Caesar, um, might want to check your definition of "optimistic". And hey, I'm the one around here who always points out that "it's only X months into this!". And the import of that is very very dark, not optimistic.

@rhomboid, what I'm optimistic about is the American people. We will figure out a way to pull out of this. It's going to get a lot uglier, which may be what is needed to wake enough people up. But I think for a lot of reasons we can pull it out.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:19 PM (BMmaB)

255 Every in Washington knows

Biden didn't win
He was a moron even before the dementia
He's a child-toucher and woman-claw
He's for sale to the highest China

and he's an figurehead run by the Obama Syndicate. They're burning him up to reach the Radiant Future and building a New and Permanent Hostage Crisis.

Evreyone knows--and no one will say it.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 23, 2021 06:19 PM (Ndje9)

256 Imagine being afraid of an enfeebled dementia patient who hides in his basement.

Lol.

Lmao.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 23, 2021 06:19 PM (pn+6M)

257 206 I am the Egg-Man

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:10 PM (Bmy3R)

They are the egg men

Posted by: Insomniac at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (II3Gr)

258 > Not one of the oh so mistreated super duper patriots in DoD or DoJ or State or or or has stood up and called bs on all this.

Apparently a whole bunch of IC types have been reaching out to all of their contacts to tell their version of events.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (UW2ZS)

259 What's a good location for a moronastery,?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy

It seemed like us and it seemed like, well, our home. If not Arizona, then a land not too far away. Where all parents are strong and wise and capable and all children are happy and beloved. I don't know. Maybe it was Utah.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (d9FiS)

260 I believe the "talk about happy things" was actually in a staff meeting, not with a reporter. Topic of meeting included withdrawal prep for A'stan, I think.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (OTzUX)

261
Imagine being afraid of an enfeebled dementia patient who hides in his basement.

________

Hate to think how they react to seeing a spider.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (/U27+)

262 222 If our evac unit is not good enough we should hire the French. They are doing a good job getting their people out.

I applaud the French, but to be fair, a large part of their success is that the TB just doesn't care about them.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (ZsR3z)
-------------------

Took rude advantage.
Our guys are the best
We need to turn them *loose.

*see Ollie comment

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (eOrYG)

263 Too afraid? Too fucking afraid? Maybe flipping burgers or running groceries across a scanner would be more in line with your sensitive sensibilities.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at August 23, 2021 06:16 PM (OX9vb)

Listen...YOU make a visit to Joe floating around in the pool nude, and constantly make jokes with the pool noodle..GAGS

Posted by: Underling at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (/6GbT)

264 "As I saw someone quip, living in the crazy world feels like you're the designated driver surrounded by a bunch of shit-faced drunks.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 23, 2021 06:18 PM (Mzdiz) "

who have taken the keys and locked you in the trunk

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (YjYuE) at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (YjYuE)

265 I'm guessing the talis will whack off a few American heads on camera, and then tptb will pay the talis $5 million per live one, and at a guesstimated 5k hostages, that's $25 billion or so for the tali bankroll.

==

Is there no end to the calamity that Trump brought on the poor Biden "administration?"

/s

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (O+I8R)

266 >>>President Joe Biden's aides were "too scared" to question him on key decisions made in the run-up to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan

>These words confuse me. I have never been scared or afraid to tell my boss he's a fuck-up. That's part of my job.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 23, 2021 06:20 PM (ecYxZ)

267 >>I can't figure this out--on the one hand the MSM is attempting to make it seem like Joe, far from suffering dementia, is indeed the one calling ALL the shots.

On the other hand, the MSM is attempting to make it seem like Joe is fully in charge and is FUCKING things up and needs to make way for MADAM President!
- - - -
First, recall that the MSM colludes with the deep state, to the point that most of their recently-retired leaders are paid contributors for CNN or MSNBC. The IC wants to escape any blame for this.

Second, Glenn Greenwald's interpretation of why the MSM is mad: https://tinyurl.com/2w6jetzr

There's another aspect to the media rage that's cultural: many went to Kabul over the last 20 years. They saw it as a quasi-western, sophisticated city: theirs. They wouldn't care if Taliban took over rural villages, just like they didn't care when US bombed those. But Kabul!

Western journalists, embedded with NATO militaries, befriended more sophisticated and educated Afghans in Kabul who they used as a translators and stringers. They're hearing from them with real fear. So little attention was paid to the war as long as the west controlled Kabul. . .

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBER at August 23, 2021 06:21 PM (bDqIh)

268 the french are very very euro about everything until national security gets involved, then the send in the dgse

the dgse is a bit iffy about obeying international standards

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:21 PM (K3ZCc)

269 Your govt is mandating vaxs and you don't have a million marching on DC?

But you can laugh at us?

Posted by: The French at August 23, 2021 06:21 PM (9Khjf)

270 "The average American will eventually come to realize that these people can't be close to power, ever again."

You DO have a time machine. This ain't 1980.

And I don't care all that much about the distant day when this might be true (though it won't be).

The damage, the opportunity cost of what won't happen without a 2nd Trump term - those are huge and important and to varying degrees will *not* be remediable, not in my lifetime.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:22 PM (OTzUX)

271 Apparently, the intel guys were surprised and distressed to discover they were unintelligent, boring, reliable yes-men.

George Macdonald Fraser made this point about Victorian England. It wasn't their plummy leadership, who are the same idiots who spawned Bonnie Prince Tampon, who were responsible. It was the noncoms who made the British the world's most formidable military of its day.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:22 PM (ZsR3z)

272 Has anybody else asked....

Where is the Hitler Rant for this?

It would be LIT!!!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at August 23, 2021 06:22 PM (snOKo)

273 You know, we mock big Ben, but he has some good thoughts a lot of the time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 06:23 PM (z4k8L)

274 The Lie was key to understanding the USSR.

Everyone was in on it. Everyone knew everyone else was in on it. It is not difficult to understand the debilitating effects this eventually has on social relations.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 23, 2021 06:23 PM (EZebt)

275 Western journalists, embedded with NATO militaries, befriended more sophisticated and educated Afghans in Kabul who they used as a translators and stringers. They're hearing from them with real fear. So little attention was paid to the war as long as the west controlled Kabul. . .

That actually sounds a lot like Saigon.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:23 PM (BMmaB)

276 when the shit hits the fan eveybody in the biden admin starts dialing tommy vitor's shuttl van driving ass to get shit sorted.

that guy heloed off a golf course two or three times a day right now.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:23 PM (K3ZCc)

277 I think it's actually a French police commando unit, basically national-level SWAT team, that is in Kabul exfil'ing French and others.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:24 PM (OTzUX)

278 As usual, Greenwald drops a truth bomb. That's undoubtedly part of it. The arrogant elitism is always a factor.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:24 PM (Bmy3R)

279 In 2014 all of DC and all the press corpse knew that Biden was a feebe.

Watch this:

Here's a video of Obama laughing about Biden's cognitive decline in 2014
https://is.gd/QT1Kz0

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 06:24 PM (eOrYG)

280 A week ago Jake Sullivan was a deer in the headlights in the first White House Press Briefing after Kabul fell. In today's briefing he wss Mr I Know More and am 100 times smarter than You Press Scum. Curt, dismissive, haughty - his normal personality no doubt. Rumors are high power Dems want him fired to help salvsge Joe.

Posted by: Gref at August 23, 2021 06:24 PM (AMIL/)

281 Does Little Joey's Pussy still hurt from being banged all week by the Taliban ??????????????

Posted by: James at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (24+Vp)

282 Everyone was in on it. Everyone knew everyone else was in on it. It is not difficult to understand the debilitating effects this eventually has on social relations.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 23, 2021 06:23 PM (EZebt)

Like people here who can't say at work that men can't get preg?

Posted by: Sounds familiar at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (56Jkm)

283
Against all odds, Joe Biden achieved his heart's desire! The thing that all desire is his, and his alone!

In front of the assembled Democrats, Joe slowly opens the lid of the Ark of the Covenant...

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (hfM+5)

284 wait just a fucking minute, you mean intelligence community describes the agencies and not the agents, get outta here!

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (K3ZCc)

285 Not the woman-craw! Woman-craw!

Posted by: the woman-claw at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (UHVv4)

286 "You DO have a time machine. This ain't 1980."

No, I think it's about 1973, to be honest. We have a tough road ahead of us.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (BMmaB)

287 There is just no point for me to come to Ace anymore. All you do is link to twitter. I've been banned from twitter for saying we should have killed the Taliban when we had the chance.
Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM (7PzLn)

Well, bye.

Posted by: Curly Bill at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (yQpMk)

288 bonhomme: "Apparently a whole bunch of IC types have been reaching out to all of their contacts to tell their version of events."

I think we're in the early stages of, "Everyone's at fault so No One's at fault; so let's move on."

The finger-pointing will peak and the collective Borg will just agree that mistakes were made. Then the MFM/Academia will pivot to, "Well, actually, Trump and MAGA Deplorables made all the mistakes."

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (aXxgO)

289 222 If our evac unit is not good enough we should hire the French. They are doing a good job getting their people out.

But of course! If there is one thing we French are good at, it is running away! Finally, it has come in handy!

Posted by: The French at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (U/u2R)

290 what I'm optimistic about is the American people. We will figure out a way to pull out of this.

I pray for that type of mindset. It's commendable and I mean that with all sincerity. Myself, just not feelin' it. I see very little evidence to support it. Maybe something will wake people up. I will be the happiest guy on the planet to be proven totally wrong.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (Xrfse)

291 In front of the assembled Democrats, Joe slowly opens the lid of the Ark of the Covenant...

Hey Jill, c'mere and take a look in HERE!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 23, 2021 06:26 PM (ZsR3z)

292 Taliban kills Afghan comedian. They cut his throat and shot him.

https://bit.ly/3j9KTDS

Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2021 06:26 PM (UW2ZS)

293
I Know More and am 100 times smarter than You Press Scum.�

_________

That's about as low a bar as they come.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:26 PM (/U27+)

294 Has anybody else asked....

yes, more than a week back

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:26 PM (K3ZCc)

295 Your govt is mandating vaxs and you don't have a million marching on DC?

But you can laugh at us?
Posted by: The French

you have a point

Posted by: runner, distinguished commenter at August 23, 2021 06:26 PM (V13WU)

296 President Joe Biden's aides were "too scared" to question him on key decisions made in the run-up to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan

Oh bull fucking shit.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 23, 2021 06:26 PM (nxdel)

297 All the good nous jokes taken?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

Hang in there, you'll think of one.

Posted by: mikeski at August 23, 2021 06:27 PM (P1f+c)

298 Cicero, that book's already on my list.

Nazi Germany was chaos. It's sort of funny, the common image of "Teutonic efficiency" etc, strict rule enforcement, etc - but in reality the regime was chaos. Whether it was intentional, to ensure maximum one-man rule, or a consequence of one-man rule, is academic - it was chaos.

Tragically for the world they were organized enough on a few areas - conquering the world, murdering innocents - that they did incredible damage. But even there, it was chaos.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:27 PM (OTzUX)

299 Then in the midst of the crisis a desperae nation cried out as in a singl voice, WHERE IS TOMMY VITOR

That bitch knows how to drive a bus!

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:27 PM (K3ZCc)

300 Biden NSA Bizarrely Claims Scenes At Kabul Airport Improve U.S. International Credibility

-
I meant to do that.

- Pee-wee Herman

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 23, 2021 06:27 PM (d9FiS)

301 "Your govt is mandating vaxs and you don't have a million marching on DC?

But you can laugh at us?
Posted by: The French "

sad but true.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (YjYuE) at August 23, 2021 06:27 PM (YjYuE)

302 the dgse is a bit iffy about obeying international standards
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Posted by: the rainbow warrior at August 23, 2021 06:28 PM (UHVv4)

303 Nazi Germany was chaos. It's sort of funny, the common image of "Teutonic efficiency" etc, strict rule enforcement, etc - but in reality the regime was chaos. Whether it was intentional, to ensure maximum one-man rule, or a consequence of one-man rule, is academic - it was chaos.

Pfffft. Look at Imperial Japan. It was run by hysterical, midgrade officers who would kill you if you didn't do exactly what they said.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:28 PM (ZsR3z)

304 Your govt is mandating vaxs and you don't have a million marching on DC?

Our illegitimate "government" locks marchers on DC up in solitary for months before hauling us before a show trial to confess fealty to the Junta before being shuffled off to prison. So, there's that.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:28 PM (Bmy3R)

305 Your govt is mandating vaxs and you don't have a million marching on DC?

But you can laugh at us?
Posted by: The French

you have a point
Posted by: runner

In fairness, they are doing trial balloons about mandating the vaxx because they know it ain't going to happen.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:28 PM (K3ZCc)

306 By this time tomorrow, it will be a MAGA conspiracy theory that the withdrawal from Afghanistan is anything other than a total success.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria

She is learning.

Posted by: AtC's Personal Fed Forensic Psychologists at August 23, 2021 06:29 PM (c2XlY)

307 In fairness, they are doing trial balloons about mandating the vaxx because they know it ain't going to happen.
Posted by: confederatefifth

lol, it already is

Posted by: runner, distinguished commenter at August 23, 2021 06:29 PM (V13WU)

308 They had to save their phony baloney jobs.

MSN calls Biden "autocratic." We heard for years that Trump was a tyrant, the Deep State ignored Trump's orders with impunity. But a dementia patient is elected and the Deep State, bows and scrapes. If Trump comes back, he has to drain the swamp on day one. Everyone at the top of FBI, CIA, DOJ, DOD, DOS have to be fired, day one. Or Trump will accomplish nothing, again.

Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:29 PM (7PzLn)

309 The finger-pointing will peak and the collective Borg will just agree that mistakes were made. Then the MFM/Academia will pivot to, "Well, actually, Trump and MAGA Deplorables made all the mistakes." Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at August 23, 2021 06:25 PM (aXxgO)

You know the progression: 1. It is not! 2. You do it too! 3. It's Trump's (previously Bush's) fault! 4. RACISM!

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:29 PM (BMmaB)

310 lol, it already is
Posted by: runner

where?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:30 PM (K3ZCc)

311 "Taliban kills Afghan comedian. They cut his throat and shot him"

In Afghanistan, crowd kill you!

Posted by: Wackoff Headoff at August 23, 2021 06:30 PM (Tnijr)

312 Everyone at the top of FBI, CIA, DOJ, DOD, DOS have to be fired, day one. Or Trump will accomplish nothing, again.

That was quick. Welcome back.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:30 PM (ZsR3z)

313
Well at least the US govt hasn't started shooting dogs yet. Well, en masse as in Aussie land.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 23, 2021 06:30 PM (Mzdiz)

314 I think this is overdue:

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 23, 2021 06:30 PM (PiwSw)

315 CNN Fact Checks Jen Psaki On False Claim That Americans Are 'Not Stranded' In Afghanistan

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Et tu, CNN?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 23, 2021 06:30 PM (d9FiS)

316 Eh, all I could think of:

Chocolate nous with eclairs

And

Biden called the FBI when he found a nous in his closet. After five months and a hundred million spent, they suggested to the president's Butler that he not pretie the president's ties.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 23, 2021 06:30 PM (z4k8L)

317 where?

Healthcare, education, the private sector.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 23, 2021 06:30 PM (Xrfse)

318 In Shirer's Rise and Fall he noted that after the attack on Poland was declared, he watched a military parade roll through the center of Berlin and saw the people either ignore it or duck into shops so they wouldn't have to acknowledge it. They didn't want another war.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 23, 2021 05:57 PM (2JVJo)

I'm 10 hours into the audio book. I got it because of one of your comments from a while back. I'm constantly amazed at the detail and analysis from Shirer.

Posted by: Mishdog at August 23, 2021 06:31 PM (G4pfN)

319 "Bombing on stage" has a whole 'nother meaning in Af'stan.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 06:31 PM (Bmy3R)

320 Taliban kills Afghan comedian. They cut his throat and shot him.

https://bit.ly/3j9KTDS
Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2021 06:26 PM (UW2ZS)

Hey, Taliban, over there--Colbert, Kimmel and Trevor Noah

Posted by: JoeF. at August 23, 2021 06:31 PM (mR6Gs)

321 Biden called the FBI when he found a nous in his closet.

A nous once bit my sister.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:31 PM (ZsR3z)

322 >> "Taliban kills Afghan comedian. They cut his throat and shot him"

HEAR THE ONE ABOUT THE AFGHAN COMEDIAN?
HE SLAYED!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBER at August 23, 2021 06:31 PM (bDqIh)

323 Your govt is mandating vaxs and you don't have a million marching on DC?

But you can laugh at us?
Posted by: The French

**

You're the size of what, Alabama?

This is going to be states rights if it happens at all.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 23, 2021 06:31 PM (oxVgP)

324 "Your govt is mandating vaxs and you don't have a million marching on DC?

But you can laugh at us?
Posted by: The French "

--

Could be that millions of us are just waiting and watching, and when the SHTF, hoping the states will protect their people. If we're going to have it out between this illegitimate federal gov't and states' rights, let's get to it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2021 06:31 PM (O+I8R)

325 so the taliban understand how thing go with the dgse, the dgse sent the head a copy of the bath tub scene with vikotr

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:32 PM (K3ZCc)

326 pep - good point. Though in the end, it was much more disciplined as a "system". There was no one absolute ruler whose favor was the exclusive objective of all senior govt. officials, which led to all sorts of stupidity.

There were separate fiefdoms (army and navy), within which the crazy dynamic you describe was active - though only, or mostly, at the end-points (1941 and before, and 1945). During the heart of the war, there really wasn't much intimidation of leadership going on over actual policy.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:32 PM (OTzUX)

327 I'm beginning to think that these people are quite the geniuses that they claim to be

Posted by: In Exile at August 23, 2021 06:32 PM (dPOAr)

328 Not 'chaos'! KAOS!

Posted by: siegfried at August 23, 2021 06:33 PM (UHVv4)

329
"FDR unveiled an ambitious program for building 10,000 military aircraft a year with no increase in supporting forces. As the proceedings drew to a close, the president summed up his plan and turned to Marshall, whom he scarcely knew. "Don't you think so, George?" he asked. Marshall replied, "I am sorry, Mr. President, but I don't agree with that at all."

"Roosevelt gave a startled look, and the outspoken Marshall received expressions of sympathy from the other conferees, who feared that his promising tour of duty in Washington was about to come to a swift end. But they underestimated both the president and the general, and stiff formalities were observed. FDR never again called Marshall "George" in public, and the general always called FDR "Mr. President." He refused to succumb to the well-known Roosevelt charm and determined never to laugh at his jokes."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:33 PM (/U27+)

330 Nu! -- Sir Bedevere

Ni!

Posted by: Knights Who Say Ni at August 23, 2021 06:33 PM (4I/2K)

331 Healthcare, education, the private sector.
Posted by:

yeah, that is not a mandate, that is coercin, madate is when the gov does it and it is vaxx or else, and or else is not cookies.

see australia

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:33 PM (K3ZCc)

332 "As I saw someone quip, living in the crazy world feels like you're the designated driver surrounded by a bunch of shit-faced drunks.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 23, 2021 06:18 PM (Mzdiz) "

who have taken the keys and locked you in the trunk
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Like Billy Batts !

Posted by: JT at August 23, 2021 06:33 PM (arJlL)

333 "So key decisions were made entirely on the basis of optics, "

Somehow I don't think these were the optics they were going for. FAIL.

BTW. They are already shipping unscreened Afghan refugees into our country. They came through Dulles this morning and right into NOVA. But they got that right.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 23, 2021 06:34 PM (EadwG)

334 "President Joe Biden's aides were "too scared" to question him on key decisions made in the run-up to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan

Oh bull fucking shit."

My thought too. More like too effing stupid to question him. Now that the situation has gone south it's easy to say "Oh we knew what was going to happen but we were scared of the big meanie"

Posted by: Tuna at August 23, 2021 06:34 PM (gLRfa)

335 @rhomboid, what I'm optimistic about is the American people. .... But I think for a lot of reasons we can pull it out.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:19 PM (BMmaB)

The majority of whom willingly swallowed this covid bullshit hook, line and sinker?

I wish I shared your optimism.

I know (and love) way too many of them who are all in on the covid crap, the hate speech crap, the Trump's mean tweets crap to ever believe we are getting out of this as the same country we once were.

Ain't no fuckin' way. We're Eurolites now, with lesser architecture and worse vacation and retirement benefits. Have been for years, really. 2016-2020 was a fluke, made possible only by the willful ignorance and arrogance of the Swamp People.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 23, 2021 06:34 PM (61wsH)

336 I thought the military could simply ignore orders they don't like. Oh wait, that was only under the Bad Orange Man. Still, the way that Milley so eagerly surrendered all our weaponry to the Taliban makes me genuinely question which side he's on. From the "white rage" reading material he gave our troops, we know that Milley actively hates our country.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 23, 2021 06:34 PM (d9Cw3)

337 By this time tomorrow, it will be a MAGA conspiracy theory that the withdrawal from Afghanistan is anything other than a total success.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 23, 2021 06:11 PM (GbPPJ)

An Absolute Triumph.

Posted by: Curly Bill at August 23, 2021 06:34 PM (yQpMk)

338 yeah, that is not a mandate, that is coercin, madate is when the gov does it and it is vaxx or else, and or else is not cookies.

Agreed but it seems like a different formula for achieving the same results.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 23, 2021 06:35 PM (Xrfse)

339 "Taliban kills Afghan comedian. They cut his throat and shot him"
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Taliban giving new comedy TV show. "Ow Your Balls."

Posted by: Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (sWM8x)

340
An Absolute Triumph.

Posted by: Curly Bill

_________

Peace in our time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (/U27+)

341 I am the walrus.
Posted by: nurse ratched

I hope not.

Posted by: JT at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (arJlL)

342 >>>>51 29 We'll never see normal again.

We had about a 45-60 day window to right this shit after the world came to an end on 3/13/20.

I knew in my gut that if it went on any longer, it would become permanent. And then, we found out there weren't enough Americans left in America to save her.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 23, 2021 05:46 PM (Bmy3R)

I am still in shock. The American people just lay down and accepted tyranny, without a fight. How can we be angry that the Afghan army didn't fight for their country, when we let the Bill of Rights be ended without a peep of complaint.

Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (7PzLn)

343 @rhomboid, I'm more optimistic than that. We're only 7 months in. I think he and his successor have a lot more to screw up, things that we can't even imagine, so much so that the reality of the incompetence will break through to become common knowledge.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 06:07 PM (BMmaB)

Things such as food shortages.

Posted by: clutch at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (9UmRs)

344 There were separate fiefdoms (army and navy), within which the crazy dynamic you describe was active - though only, or mostly, at the end-points (1941 and before, and 1945). During the heart of the war, there really wasn't much intimidation of leadership going on over actual policy.

You're right, of course. But the endpoints are when it really matters. There's just a lot of dying in between.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (ZsR3z)

345 OH!!! That's the story now? Wonder what it will be next week... the voices in my head told me to. FFS.

Posted by: Mrs Compton at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (5p7BC)

346 Lol. "So let's not puss off the demented old puddin head".

Yeah, right.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (EadwG)

347
in before the threadjacker

g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (DUIap)

348 I'm still having a hard time hearing that Sonny Cuomo abandoned his dog. Be on the lookout for Barry Obama with a steak knife.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (ecYxZ)

349 By this time tomorrow, it will be a MAGA conspiracy theory that the withdrawal from Afghanistan is anything other than a total success.

**

The FDA deems the Afghanistan withdrawal safe for everyone involved.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (oxVgP)

350
Agreed but it seems like a different formula for achieving the same results.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 23, 2021 06:35 PM (Xrfse)

Same formulas as everything else: take advantage of institutional capture in the private sector to do an end-run around legal constraints on the government.

The corporate State, with an American twist.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (rZA2o)

351 "broker" dissent is more ridiculous than "nous". the writing sounds like an idiot college kid did this.

Posted by: jason_farnon at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (LB689)

352 When Sundowner is put to pasture, The Ho becomes presid***, a new VP is picked and voted on by Congress, it's not Nanzi gets the job right out of the gate.

Posted by: Skip at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (znIQ9)

353 Former NSA O'Brien implied in an interview that the military materiel in A'stan now in the hands of the Taliban would have been moved out under Trump. He didn't get into specifics.

Yeah, OK. Easy to believe this crew f***ed everything up.

But what % was slated to remain, anyway? I'd guess a substantial % of what we're hearing about, now. After all in theory we were leaving a country with a military we had stood up and trained, and equipped. So much of this stuff was probably going to be captured at some point, whenever the regime fell.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (OTzUX)

354 NOOD cafe.

Posted by: Catherine at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (wakSB)

355 "Taliban kills Afghan comedian. They cut his throat and shot him"
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Tough crowd. Too many "Muhammed Muhmmed and Muhammed walk into a bar" jokes?

Posted by: Unvacced Peasant of the lowest caste at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (wFQsY)

356 Nazi Germany was chaos.

The decision to invade Russia was not seriously opposed by anyone in upper management. The doubters had already had their asses handed to them after France; nobody in the high command was going to end his career by being on record as opposing the next Great Victory of German Arms.

Besides, Finland had kicked Russia's ass handily in 1939 and according to Nazi ideology, the Russians were just bestial untermenschen incapable of strategic thinking. The Wehrmacht would take them in a romp.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 06:37 PM (guGkK)

357 Hiya AltonJackson

Posted by: JT at August 23, 2021 06:38 PM (arJlL)

358
hey JT

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 23, 2021 06:38 PM (DUIap)

359
Oh Pfizer's "vaccine" has been given a name, what with full approval. It has been dubbed "Comirnaty".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 23, 2021 06:38 PM (Mzdiz)

360 >>>91 I would imagine telling the truth is a career killer for leftists just by itself.
Posted by: banana Dream at August 23, 2021 05:47 PM (cTK4u)
This.

We are talking about people who think Bruce Jenner is now a woman. Telling the truth defies their entire political thought. They have a philosophy based on lies.

Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:38 PM (7PzLn)

361 BTW. They are already shipping unscreened Afghan refugees into our country. They came through Dulles this morning and right into NOVA. But they got that right.
---------------
As "I" posted above, the Brits have already caught "no fly list" assholes trying to board RAF flights out.

Posted by: siegfried at August 23, 2021 06:38 PM (UHVv4)

362 @303

Imperial Japan also had two military services - the Army and the Navy - that probably hated each other more than they hated the US and the Chinese.

Posted by: junior at August 23, 2021 06:38 PM (BBaPp)

363 yeah, that is not a mandate, that is coercin, madate is when the gov does it and it is vaxx or else, and or else is not cookies.

Agreed but it seems like a different formula for achieving the same results.
Posted by: N

there is a diffrence between not having a job and going to the camps.

they are forcing the issue but we have to acknowledge itfor what it is.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 23, 2021 06:39 PM (K3ZCc)

364 Look at how close the polls are on Biden's approval. Those voters just don't like the optics and that his incompetence is out in the open. If you had a real used car salesman who could actually string two cogent sentences together they would be calling this a win.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 23, 2021 06:39 PM (EadwG)

365 nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (YjYuE) at August 23, 2021 06:39 PM (YjYuE)

366 openly contradicting him and undermining him -- in public, which is unprecedented.

They must be under strict orders to do so. Harris is next up for Rodeo Presidentin': see how long you can hang on while fucking the country.

Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2021 06:39 PM (3fR4G)

367 Everyone at the top of FBI, CIA, DOJ, DOD, DOS have to be fired, day one. Or Trump will accomplish nothing, again.
Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:29 PM (7PzLn)

I said it before - someone ought to interview Trump and ask him one question:

"Mr President - during the four years you were in office, you were mocked, blocked, stymied, ignored and outright defied by the Deep State, the MFM, the GOP, the Dems and your own military. Have you learned your fucking lesson?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 23, 2021 06:39 PM (2JVJo)

368 FML. Take the fucking sock off, shithead.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 23, 2021 06:39 PM (UHVv4)

369 In front of the assembled Democrats, Joe slowly opens the lid of the Ark of the Covenant...

Hey Jill, c'mere and take a look in HERE!
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 23, 2021 06:26 PM (ZsR3z)

I am uncomfortable with these .. Jewish rituals.

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at August 23, 2021 06:40 PM (yQpMk)

370 Tammy al-Thor, I fear you are correct. Certainly my take on the last 18 months, and to an extent, 20 years.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:40 PM (OTzUX)

371 Nous?

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Great another puffy word that will be used by preening prysyns along with optics and gravitas to put you in your place because sighing and rolling zhey/zhem/zheir eyes at you takes too much effort.

At least zhey/zhem/zheir know three words, though it is doubtful zhey/zhem/zheir could actually spell these weighty words without a word processor.

How about we use plain language when discussing the Sock Puppet like epic failure, stupid, pathological liar, and plagiarist.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 23, 2021 06:40 PM (ESLBo)

372 I got a message from someone familiar with the op at HKIA. He said nobody on that first group of flights was screened. Not one. Even though they are on the ground in Qatar now, they still have no way to screen these people. Yet here they are being shipped into the US already.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 23, 2021 06:41 PM (EadwG)

373 Comirnaty Chili! *hic* *hart* Stay hydrated.

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at August 23, 2021 06:41 PM (Xrfse)

374 Flaming syphilitic clown boner skull fucking a flaming clown skull.

Posted by: (jV+aN) President Orange Man Bad (Rheees Be Upon Him) at August 23, 2021 06:41 PM (jV+aN)

375 190 There is just no point for me to come to Ace anymore. All you do is link to twitter. I've been banned from twitter for saying we should have killed the Taliban when we had the chance.
Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM

I followed the link in your nic to American Greatness. Your most recent article is now on my reading list.

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 23, 2021 06:42 PM (qe5CM)

376 We can't even shart effectively.

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at August 23, 2021 06:43 PM (Xrfse)

377 336 I thought the military could simply ignore orders they don't like. Oh wait, that was only under the Bad Orange Man. Still, the way that Milley so eagerly surrendered all our weaponry to the Taliban makes me genuinely question which side he's on. From the "white rage" reading material he gave our troops, we know that Milley actively hates our country.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 23, 2021 06:34 PM (d9Cw3)
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He's insane

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 06:43 PM (eOrYG)

378 I thought I just heard someone say "Hello" in Arabic
But it was a false Salaam.

Haha, no, I am just kidding, Hefty Bags and Germs.

But please to be hearing this one: When The Taliban terrorist men go to heaven, they meet 10,000 virgins.

They are all male Taliban terrorists!

Hee hee! You see, the virgins, they are the men! Is funny joke! I'll be here all night. Try the goat.

Posted by: Ahmad Dangerfield at August 23, 2021 06:43 PM (Bmy3R)

379 I have seen several $3.5 Billion dollar contracts go to Pfizer and Moderna for the vaccine. It comes right out of the DoD budget...

Posted by: ChrisP at August 23, 2021 06:44 PM (cc27U)

380 NOOD

Posted by: Ahmad Dangerfield at August 23, 2021 06:44 PM (Bmy3R)

381 >>>Yet here they are being shipped into the US already.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 23, 2021 06:41 PM (EadwG)
-----------------

It's OK, they're going to Jersey.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 23, 2021 06:44 PM (eOrYG)

382 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing: "...Have you learned your fucking lesson?"

That's a fair question.

Were he to be elected for his third term, if he doesn't make it his primary mission to drain the swamp, he will have failed. Bigly. It above everything else would be his duty. Second, wholesale prosecutions of a scale never seen in the Western world.

Actually, both of those are pretty much the same thing.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 23, 2021 06:45 PM (aXxgO)

383 Reading about the hair-pulling in the UK is hilarious.

A few short weeks ago, Biden was billed as a "breath of fresh air" by the sad 2nd-raters running the UK (which is sort of sad and 2nd rate, appropriately).

After the UK had been arm-twisted (with some public opinion back-up in the UK, which was astounding) to back away from Huawei, and as they continued to steam about missing out on the gold rush denied them and the other Euros by Trump's Iran policy, I suppose it *was* a breath of fresh air to have the US, again, simply disappear as a consideration or annoyance.

Oh well, too bad, Boris. Well now you'll have more resources and energy to police the thoughts and speech of the inmates, er, "subjects" in your declining island.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 23, 2021 06:45 PM (OTzUX)

384 Things such as food shortages. Posted by: clutch at August 23, 2021 06:36 PM (9UmRs)

Now you're thinking. Gas lines. Widespread blackouts. Crime increasing to unheard-of levels. Runaway inflation. Enough misery to make the soccer moms and the instinctive minority Democrats reconsider their loyalties.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 23, 2021 07:11 PM (BMmaB)

385 Joe's dementia would make it extremely difficult if not impossible to convince him to change his mind regardless of how irrational the decision or forceful the counter-arguments.

Posted by: Binkley at August 23, 2021 07:27 PM (xP8Wr)

386 FBI flunky changed memo from "Afghan army won't fight" to "Afghan army will fight". Bigtime Community Service coming up for this scapegoat!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 23, 2021 07:36 PM (IAPGA)

387 383 Reading about the hair-pulling in the UK is hilarious."

Yep. They got the US election results they wanted and now they're bitching?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at August 23, 2021 07:39 PM (HabA/)

388 I finished Operation Barbarossa by David Stahel a few weeks ago. If you want a very thorough account of the attitudes of the German general staff and the field commanders to the idea of invading the Soviet Union, there's your book.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2021 06:05 PM (guGkK)

Yes , the German generals were full of that garbage, no, we didnt want to do that, it was Hitler! The generals were on board almost universally, partly because he funnelled lots of cash to them

It isn't a coincidence that the murder plot was led by a Colonel, not a general.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2021 07:55 PM (eoQWY)

389 I'm 10 hours into the audio book. I got it because of one of your comments from a while back. I'm constantly amazed at the detail and analysis from Shirer.
Posted by: Mishdog at August 23, 2021 06:31 PM (G4pfN)

He wasn't in his hotel tweeting and taking selfies, he was watching an learning.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2021 07:59 PM (eoQWY)

390 >>>>>375 190 There is just no point for me to come to Ace anymore. All you do is link to twitter. I've been banned from twitter for saying we should have killed the Taliban when we had the chance.
Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 06:06 PM

I followed the link in your nic to American Greatness. Your most recent article is now on my reading list.
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 23, 2021 06:42 PM (qe5CM)

Thank you. Hope you like it

Posted by: BurkeanMama at August 23, 2021 08:30 PM (7PzLn)

391 Anyone know of a good blog/site covering the Afghan situation with lots of info/analysis? I don't mind if it has a conservative slant or some speculation. But am looking with something high signal to noise. Used to follow some milblogs, but that was over a decade ago. Not sure what is out there, now. Nothing against any lower signal to noise blogs, room for everyone.

Posted by: 637slr at August 24, 2021 09:58 AM (aUPu2)

392 For some reason, a scene from Empire of the Sun came to mind.
pep
yeah,that is a movie.
Aghanistan is real life so not sure it's a great analogy.
Also, Britain had Churchill in charge . Even Chamberlain would be better than Bidet.

Posted by: Honest Joe at August 24, 2021 11:39 AM (pGJWE)

393 Could be that millions of us are just waiting and watching, and when the SHTF, hoping the states will protect their people. If we're going to have it out between this illegitimate federal gov't and states' rights, let's get to it.

Posted by: Lady in Black

Any day now...

Posted by: Honest Joe at August 24, 2021 11:43 AM (pGJWE)

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