The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Like many others around these august pages, I grew up respecting the armed forces, was the son of a veteran, and had immense respect for the dedication and sacrifice of our military. My default was that it was competent and intelligent and patriotic and understood its place within our society and our political structure. It was unique in an otherwise mediocre collection of government programs and departments and branches.

Was it perfect? Of course not; anyone who remembers the tumult of the 1960s and 1970s knows that the armed forces were not immune. But they fixed themselves, and for many years we had a professionally-run military that may have chafed at the chaos of their civilian superiors, but still did what was required of them.

But all good things must come to an end, and according to this unnamed general officer, the United States armed forces have reached that point.

THOUGHTS ON AFGHANISTAN, from a senior military officer

We should blame President Bush, not for the decision to attack into Afghanistan following 9-11, but for his decision to “shift the goalposts” and attempt to reform Afghanistan society. That was a fool’s errand any student of history would have recognized. And yes, we should place blame on President Obama for his decision to double down on failure when he “surged” in Afghanistan, rather than to withdraw.
However, most of the blame belongs to the leadership of the US military, and the Army in particular. The Washington Post’s “Afghanistan Papers” detailed years of US officials failing to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan, “making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable.” That report was two years ago, and the stories within it began more than a decade before that. Afghanistan was, and always will be, “unwinnable”.

Our military is broken, and while that isn't news to most of us, the damage is at the top, and it has destroyed the effectiveness of our armed forces by catastrophically changing the core principles of the military while allowing unprecedented involvement in our political process...something that is anathema to every honorable officer with a cursory knowledge of the Constitution and the UCMJ.

I am reminded of Eisenhower's "In the event of failure letter" which he wrote before D-Day. He knew that he was expected to succeed, but that he was responsible regardless. There is no rational argument that can be made absolving the United States military from responsibility for the ongoing outrage in Afghanistan. Those in authority knew that the collapse was imminent and were incapable of managing a safe withdrawal for the military and all of those dependent on America; in which case they were incompetent and should be fired and held accountable. Or they did not know, in which case they were incompetent and should be fired and held accountable. Resignation is a time-honored response to orders, or lack of orders that fly in the face of duty. Acceptance of the status quo is in this case agreement with the status quo.

There is a third explanation which is unfortunately possible...that they knew what was about to occur and allowed it because that was the plan. In which case it is a criminal matter.

Regardless of the circumstances that led to the Afghanistan debacle, America has been done a disservice by its political leaders, who have allowed such chaos to reign over what was once an honorable and competent institution. As the letter suggests, we need to return to a time in which the use of the military was driven by the needs of America, not the fantasies of a globalist elite or the frantic demands of nation-building fanatics.

The lives of our servicemen are far too important to be used as pawns in a game played by people who are comfortably removed from the effects of their decisions. The honor of America is far too valuable to be squandered in the span of a few months as if it were a political tool.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 10:01 AM (8D42x)

2 It only took the Russians 9 years to bug out.

Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:01 AM (AwYPR)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:01 AM (Zz0t1)

4 corgis called

and morning everyone

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 10:01 AM (8D42x)

5 I'm sure this whole affair (the past year) is doing wonders for the military's recruitment drives.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:02 AM (LvTSG)

6 Grim, grim stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (/XOcP)

7 We are so screwed.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (wAnMi)

8 Grempht.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (LBiAf)

9 My experience of Afghanistan was hearing about the wonders of putting a cellphone in every hand while also hearing about people murdering for beanie babies and killing US troops while they were handing candy to children.

Posted by: NMS at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (m15rU)

10 Funny how all republicans have been silent, isn't it.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)

11 Aoc having rape flashbacks

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (ySQBZ)

12 Remember when Trump commented on how everyone wants to come here from those sh*thole countries, and everyone on the left said that he's wrong and there's no sh*thole countries? Yeah, bet they want that one back now.

Posted by: Flyguy at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (3sOO0)

13 These assholes should rot in hell.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (1R20R)

14 I don't think the realization has settled on some in this administration just how wholly fucked they are.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (BFigT)

15 Landlords rights prevailed today. Asshole tenants have 10 days to vacate.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (OoCxN)

16 Our military is broken, and while that isn't news to most of us, the damage is at the top, and it has destroyed the effectiveness of our armed forces by catastrophically changing the core principles of the military while allowing unprecedented involvement in our political process...something that is anathema to every honorable officer with a cursory knowledge of the Constitution and the UCMJ.
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Substitute a few words, and this same statement can apply to any major institution in the country. Not even a single institution - government, academic or industrial - is not in the same condition.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (3p5uk)

17 Essay views strongly endorsed.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (pOHui)

18 The US military's main priority of achieving and maintaining combat readiness has taken a distant second to woke politics.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (II3Gr)

19 Funny how all republicans have been silent, isn't it.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)

Defense contractors write checks to both parties...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (Q9lwr)

20 Sad but true.

Ugh.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (mD/uy)

21 Can't argue with a single word stated.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 19, 2021 10:05 AM (5p7BC)

22 regarding the US military, i believe that every officer from O-6 and up should be fired day 1 of the next administration. I realize that means we're going to lose some good people, but i think the rot is too deep.

Additionally, i think all E-8 and up should go as well. for the same reason.

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 10:05 AM (8D42x)

23 I'm sure this whole affair (the past year) is doing wonders for the military's recruitment drives.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:02 AM (LvTSG)

Trannies fairies and dykes OH MY!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:05 AM (Zz0t1)

24 Landlords rights prevailed today. Asshole tenants have 10 days to vacate.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (OoCxN)

What's up??

Posted by: runner at August 19, 2021 10:05 AM (w45mR)

25 Potential car bomb outside the Library of Congress? Aww - false flag perhaps? Anyway, good timing for Punchy and Herr Klain unt Sullivan methinks.

Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 10:05 AM (5iUNf)

26
Defense contractors write checks to both parties...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (Q9lwr)

Further showing that our government is COMPLETELY broken and corrupt.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:05 AM (Zz0t1)

27 Our pols give the military their ROE. We could have obliterated the Taliban, we chose not to.

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

28
OP! OP! OP! OP!
Call a cop, cop, cop, cop!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 19, 2021 10:06 AM (+2sc/)

29 Substitute a few words, and this same statement can apply to any major institution in the country.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (3p5uk)

One of my points was that it didn't used to be so...and that is sad and dangerous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:06 AM (Q9lwr)

30 27 Our pols give the military their ROE. We could have obliterated the Taliban, we chose not to.
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

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Half-measures are no way to fight a war.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

31 Funny how all republicans have been silent, isn't it.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)

After looking at JJ's post this morning, the only conclusion I can draw is madmen are driving this bus, and running into everything they can before they get to the cliff.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:06 AM (wAnMi)

32 I'm sure this whole affair (the past year) is doing wonders for the military's recruitment drives.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:02 AM (LvTSG)

Why not? All the trannie drugs you want and not even a chance of being sent to A-stan.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (U7wke)

33 Zo, who will control the opium market?

Posted by: runner at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (w45mR)

34 Not even a single institution - government, academic or industrial - is not in the same condition.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (3p5uk)
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Our current social state shows the Peter Principle at work, and some of our institutions (DOJ in particular) have become aggressive cancers on the host.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (pOHui)

35 Trump"s fault!

Cheri Jacobus
@CheriJacobus
Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (d9FiS)

36 The honor of America is far too valuable to be squandered in the span of a few months as if it were a political tool.
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I suspect it has been squandered not in a few months, but over the course of around thirty years. The honor has been consumed, just like the political, social and real capital of the country. It is now very apparent that we're running on momentum, but we didn't draw down the reserves during Biden's 211 days in office. His cabal just mashed down the accelerator on the moon-faced assumption that the tank was still full - only to find that the fuel pump is pulling in air.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (3p5uk)

37 35 Trump"s fault!

Cheri Jacobus
@CheriJacobus
Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (d9FiS)

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Is that why Biden didn't follow Trump's plan?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (LvTSG)

38 tangentially on topic from the morning report:

Tucker's segment with Lara Logan was stunning last night. She lived there and said there was NO WAY they didn't know the taliban was moving in. She also said that they're armed thru Pakistan who we fund. Our satellites saw every taliban movement. This happened on purpose. 100%.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 19, 2021 07:25 AM (ySQBZ)

we KNEW where the training camps in NWFP in Pak were. we knew the routes they took in and out. we knew the times they traveled.

hell, at one point, they knew what buildings in Karachi the taliban were meeting, and not a thing was ever done.

i wonder why that would be...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (8D42x)

39 Cheri Jacobus
@CheriJacobus
Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (d9FiS)

You are awarded no points......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (Zz0t1)

40 You miss me right?

Posted by: Jimmuh Carter at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (YTBIQ)

41 Who the hell is Cheri Jacobus, other than another loony bint?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (II3Gr)

42 Like many others around these august pages, I grew up respecting the armed forces, was the son of a veteran, and had immense respect for the dedication and sacrifice of our military. My default was that it was competent and intelligent and patriotic and understood its place within our society and our political structure. It was unique in an otherwise mediocre collection of government programs and departments and branches.

What has driven my lack of respect for the armed services (and bear in mind I am talking about the leaders and not the man in the field) is the determination and eagerness almost daily displayed to use the military not to defend America or her interests, but to actively punish, persecute and kill Americans who oppose the Democrat junta.

I feel the same way about the police. With their eagerness to enforce mask diktats, arrest MAGA protestors and stand down while entire cities burn, any respect I had for them has also gone down the toilet.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (2JVJo)

43
But all good things must come to an end

And it's the same with the wildwood weed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (63Dwl)

44 Can't argue with a single word stated.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 19, 2021 10:05 AM (5p7BC)

That may be the worst part of the whole sordid mess. I didn't write anything that can be challenged.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (Q9lwr)

45 Defense contractors write checks to both parties...

And both parties are heavily invested in the MIC.

*have you seen the jump on ACME bomb stocks?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (BFigT)

46 Milley tried the "best information available" line from Eisenhowers letter, but would not follow through and accept responsibility.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (OoCxN)

47 One of my points was that it didn't used to be so...and that is sad and dangerous.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:06 AM (Q9lwr)
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It is. Very sad and extremely dangerous.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (3p5uk)

48 Well, poo. I could've been first loser. This is how much i read the content. I waited to post until finished.
*makes Road Runner "thpthpthp" noise*

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (VcFUs) - at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (VcFUs)

49 It only took the Russians 9 years to bug out.
Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:01 AM (AwYPR)

IIRC, the Soviets had direct ground access through their satellite countries also, so supply, entrance and exit were much simpler. Yet the cost/benefit math didn't add up and they bailed.
Who's the dummy?
I guess hubris is the default of empires just over the success curve.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (z79tQ)

50
Defense contractors write checks to both parties...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Take a gander at the mountainous list of military goodies poured into A'stan from the last thread and the truth of this bipartisan graft at our expense becomes evident.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (+2sc/)

51 I feel the same way about the police. With their eagerness to enforce mask diktats, arrest MAGA protestors and stand down while entire cities burn, any respect I had for them has also gone down the toilet.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (2JVJo)

Police forces are local. We've had sheriffs resisting mandates of various types from state and federal levels as well. Blue city police forces are of course going to be much more blue.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (z5Vrg)

52 Has the FBI arrested anyone from Jan 6 who actually carried a gun into Congress? Nope? Then, shut up about it.

Has the FBI arrested the guy who planted the two pipe bombs that day? Or was he promoted to Agent-In-Charge somewhere?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (pOHui)

53 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (2JVJo)

Good point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (Q9lwr)

54 The lives of our servicemen are far too important to be used as pawns in a game played by people who are comfortably removed from the effects of their decisions.

I don't recall his name. Black congressman - Korea war vet - lefty piece of shit - BUT...he wanted to restore the draft for this very reason.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (U7wke)

55 Zo, who will control the opium market?
Posted by: runner at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (w45mR)

Chy-NAH, as they always have...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (8D42x)

56 I don't recall his name. Black congressman - Korea war vet - lefty piece of shit - BUT...he wanted to restore the draft for this very reason.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (U7wke)

Didn't the draft have college and other exceptions?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 10:10 AM (z5Vrg)

57 Cheri or Cherry? I think the second will better describe her first encounter with reality.

Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 10:11 AM (5iUNf)

58 Of course it was the plan, just like stabbing the South Vietnamese in the back was the plan, just like willfully hollowing out the military and our other institutions is the plan, its one of the reasons they had Obama surge and one of the reasons that they have kept Joe hanging on this long, they have an intrinsic need to bring shame and ruin upon the US and its works and they are willing to throw joe under the bus to do it so they have enough distance to keep lionizing their favorites.

Posted by: JoshO at August 19, 2021 10:11 AM (Z9wz+)

59 5 I'm sure this whole affair (the past year) is doing wonders for the military's recruitment drives.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:02 AM (LvTSG)

And speaking as a veteran, that is a good thing.

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2021 10:11 AM (9UmRs)

60 Took my tenants to court to evict them and won. They had a lawyer and everything. Back rent, court costs, GTFO.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:11 AM (OoCxN)

61
I don't recall his name. Black congressman - Korea war vet - lefty piece of shit - BUT...he wanted to restore the draft for this very reason.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Charles Rangel

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (+2sc/)

62 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (vuisn)

63 Shades of Gen. William Westmoreland (sp?) in Viet Nam. Lie to everyone about how great things are going and get over 50K killed for their vanity. They all need to be drummed out of the service at the least.

Posted by: oldgeezer at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (5shr5)

64 I'm sure this whole affair (the past year) is doing wonders for the military's recruitment drives.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:02 AM (LvTSG)

And speaking as a veteran, that is a good thing.

Agreed.

Posted by: Blanco Basura -(SchxB)- moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (SchxB)

65 Good for you, Cat.

Posted by: runner at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (w45mR)

66 41 Who the hell is Cheri Jacobus, other than another loony bint?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (II3Gr)

A total bitch, she suggested that Caputo's daughter would be useful at Epstein parties. She's lower than Jen Rubin

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (ONvIw)

67 Potential car bomb outside the Library of Congress? Aww - false flag perhaps? Anyway, good timing for Punchy and Herr Klain unt Sullivan methinks.
Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 10:05 AM (5iUNf)

Razorfist, in his video about A-stan, said pre-emptively that he didn't buy whatever false flag the government was thinking up to try and drive this out of the news.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (U7wke)

68 @CheriJacobus
Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (d9FiS)
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That's the stupidest, most ill-conceived, ill-reasoned "hot take" I have seen in a long time, and it speaks volumes as to how Cheri Jacobs (whoever the hell she is) thinks.

In order for this to be true, there is one root assumption that you absolutely must acknowledge and accept without question: that Trump would rather humiliate the country, thrust her international affairs into chaos and run the risk of destabilizing not just America but the world at large in order to ensure that Biden didn't get a major win.

This is absurd on its face, as anyone who has ever listened to Trump for more than a few minutes - let alone watched his policy and diplomacy - knows. In order to come up with it, you'd have to think this way yourself. Cheri Jacobs absolutely *would* play this game to hurt Trump.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (3p5uk)

69 Didn't the draft have college and other exceptions?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 10:10 AM (z5Vrg)

Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

70 *have you seen the jump on ACME bomb stocks?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (BFigT)

well, the coyote population has been increasing recently...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (8D42x)

71 19 Funny how all republicans have been silent, isn't it.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)

Defense contractors write checks to both parties...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:04 AM (Q9lwr)

Where's Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell? I know that JROD is right about the futility of pointing this out, but these people have a better than even shot of being Majority Leaders again. You know that Schumer and Pelosi would be in front of this from last Friday. This is easy for them to make statements on.

We really do need to start over again with this party. Time to do this one ourselves somehow.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (mdjgu)

72 That may be the worst part of the whole sordid mess. I didn't write anything that can be challenged.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (Q9lwr)

I collect books. I have a lot of books about the history of the presidency, the founding of America and even a couple of 1930s schoolbooks about "democracy." It is actively painful to read them now; even the books written in the 1960s and 70s have a naive innocence about institutions, the Founders and America that are nothing more than sick jokes now.

One book has a whole chapter about an old man who dresses up in his finest clothes every November to cast his vote and the text talks about what a sacred duty it is to be an involved, informed citizen.

You can imagine what anyone reading that tripe now would say.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (2JVJo)

73 Not that I GAF about her since around 2010 but someone linked Coulter's latest and I was curious.

I know I'm petty but what I got out of it was the world's #1 Romney-Christie fan wants us to know that Trump's a "phony". Also Biden is doing the conservative thing by bringing the troops home and we should all be praising him.

I used to like that bony hag. Then again at one time she was incredibly funny.

Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (mhQH9)

74 My grandfather was in France for WW2. My dad spent time in Vietnam with the big red 1. My older brother walked the wall in Berlin. My younger brother was in Germany, Hubbymayhem was in Germany and then deployed to Haiti. My nephew was on board the Enterprise for part of his Navy service, and my son was at Fort Bliss with the cavalry.

My family has a strong military tradition. I hate what these evil bastards have done to our armed forces.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM (Vxu+H)

75 Half-measures are no way to fight a war.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

And, yet, it's what they've insisted upon in every case since 1945.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM (U7wke)

76 curious that these people act like there's never been a President that had to deal with a treaty someone else signed. All he had to do was honor the treaty, end the war as scheduled. And the idea that Afghans should be evacuated before American citizens is treasonous.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM (5HBd1)

77 Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.

Holy fuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM (1R20R)

78 CBD, today you're picking on the military and its crashing fall from competence, but every day you could pick an aspect of American government/society and do the same.
We are being run by idiots. How they got there is a mystery, but there they are.
Every important part of our lives being controlled by the government would be a good first step to a reversal, but that would still leave military, economic, educational, LE, etc. to be run by idiots.

They say there's a lot of ruin in an empire and there is. But it is not infinite.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM (z79tQ)

79 No wonder the Gurgle Twins and other assorted cohort Satanic semen-swallowers are taking off to their bunkers in the islands and far places of the sea. Either the plan they've cooked to eradicate most of the planet's inhabitants, or their true fear of how deep the pitchforks will be when the awakening Eloi finally grab some cold steel to slit the Illumanatis' throats, tells us that it's time to take care of biz. "Get busy dying, or get busy living"

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat bastards and RINO azz suckers at August 19, 2021 10:14 AM (5DfsO)

80
Didn't the draft have college and other exceptions?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021

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In the latter Vietnam days, there was a lottery. Your birthday was your entry. If you got a high number, your chances of being drafted were low. I signed up for Selective Service on my 18th birthday, and my number was pretty high. (Good thing. I'd have gotten myself killed over there.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:14 AM (/XOcP)

81 Perhaps Afghanistan is a sort of mechanical bull for measuring a superpower's military strength (and self-destructive stupidity).

Soviets held on for 9 years
We held on for 20

Yay us!

Posted by: weew at August 19, 2021 10:14 AM (EaEMG)

82 Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

I'm trying to picture purple-haired sex-confused soy-infused millennials going through basic training...

Posted by: Jordan61, I am the 10% at August 19, 2021 10:14 AM (Ez6QX)

83 I'm trying to picture purple-haired sex-confused soy-infused millennials going through basic training...
Posted by: Jordan61, I am the 10% at August 19, 2021 10:14 AM (Ez6QX)
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In yesterday's military, they wouldn't be that way coming out of Basic. That's one of the points. In today's military, though? I have no idea.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:15 AM (3p5uk)

84 82 Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

And no college deferments, except vital stem, and then maybe

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:15 AM (ONvIw)

85 Charlie Rangel was the one who kept calling for the reinstatement of the draft. Mostly to put the kibosh on any military actions.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2021 10:15 AM (63Dwl)

86 10 Funny how all republicans have been silent, isn't it.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)

They are silent [read: complicit] a lot, aren't they.

Posted by: Flyover at August 19, 2021 10:15 AM (Rbu5d)

87 Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat bastards and RINO azz suckers at August 19, 2021 10:14 AM (5DfsO)

Don't forget the lizard people, glowie.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 10:15 AM (Y5qcH)

88 Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

If we do that I am glad I will be out by then and not have to deal with that shit show

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (Irn0L)

89 Jonah Goldberg and Tom Nichols agree; it's your fault.

Jonah Goldberg
@JonahDispatch
I am really struggling to think of a time when I despaired more for the country and had so much contempt not just for both parties, but the bases of both parties.

Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
Replying to @JonahDispatch
Man, I wish I didn't feel what you're feeling about the public. That's the source of my despair.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (d9FiS)

90 And biden was powerless to change Trumps plan? No control at all?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (OoCxN)

91 Funny how all republicans have been silent, isn't it.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)
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Their silence is deafening.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (3p5uk)

92 American Mind:
Afghanistan: Doomed from the Start
Michael Anton

So the Bush Administration did what it did, which didn't work, and no one was able to admit that it didn't work because saying the reason aloud was forbidden

(hint: Islamophobia).

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (RHGPo)

93 77 Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.

Holy fuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM (1R20R)
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You couldn't be more wrong or diametrically opposed to the truth. You are clearly an Obama voter.

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat bastards and RINO azz suckers at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (5DfsO)

94 Cheri Jacobs absolutely *would* play this game to hurt Trump.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (3p5uk)

If she could advocate for toddler girls to be prostituted in order to attack Trump supporters, she's below nobody

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:17 AM (ONvIw)

95 I don't recall his name. Black congressman - Korea war vet - lefty piece of shit - BUT...he wanted to restore the draft for this very reason.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:09 AM (U7wke)

Chollie Wrangler?

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2021 10:17 AM (9UmRs)

96 If last weekends events in Afghanistan were Trump's fault, why didn't Biden do anything to prevent it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:17 AM (LvTSG)

97 Most rank and file military understand that the farther up the chain of command you go the more FUBAR the thinking becomes. You really just concentrate on the job in front of you, and taking care of the folks on either side of you. Biden, and his team, have raised the FUBAR standard to high art...

Posted by: Michael Christian at August 19, 2021 10:17 AM (/LbTY)

98 Jonuuuh. You're the problem, fucking idiot.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (mV+3t)

99 It was demeaning to watch Austin and Milley yesterday blame their subordinates, the White House and other agencies for the chaos in Kabul. To think that such people run the military is panic-inducing.

As a military brat I was taught no excuses; either you finished your assigned task or you didn't. Those two miserable excuses for leaders failed, and they should acknowledge that fact and leave. Very simple.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (pOHui)

100 You couldn't be more wrong or diametrically opposed to the truth. You are clearly an Obama voter.
Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat bastards and RINO azz suckers at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (5DfsO)

She's so much worse than that

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (ONvIw)

101 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (d9FiS)

We just won't let them be clear.

Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (mhQH9)

102
Replying to @JonahDispatch
Man, I wish I didn't feel what you're feeling about the public. That's the source of my despair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

They want to dissolve the public and import a new one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (63Dwl)

103 whatever false flag the government was thinking up to try and drive this out of the news.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (U7wke)

Yesterday I was thinking false flag. Today I'm thinking they relish this. All part of the demoralization psy-op that we've been subject to for a year and a half. Being led bey a dementia patient is part of it. As long as he can talk, they'll put him at a podium. We're supposed to watch the shit show all around us and be powerless to do anything about it.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (wAnMi)

104 33 Zo, who will control the opium market?
Posted by: runner at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (w45mR)

Heh.

Posted by: See Eye A at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (Rbu5d)

105 Very good Mr CBD.

Quick....what rhymes with 007 and hillbilly robots?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (RlSZN)

106 Didn't the draft have college and other exceptions?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 10:10 AM (z5Vrg)

Yes, and members of the uni-party would, no doubt, get their scions assigned nice safe duties stateside. The plan was, basically, unworkable but I recall that his point was that political leadership needed some skin in the game.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (U7wke)

107 61
I don't recall his name. Black congressman - Korea war vet - lefty piece of shit - BUT...he wanted to restore the draft for this very reason.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Charles Rangel
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (+2sc/)

Being a typical Dem politician, he always brought that up in the middle of "Republican" wars, so he can recreate the antiwar protests from the 60s and use that to drive R's out of office. I don't think he was doing it out of any sense of fairness; it was a political calculation for him, nothing more.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (mdjgu)

108 The Army in the USA isn't broken.

The Army in Washington DC is broken.

The problem is Washington DC. And the people in Washington DC.

Posted by: Achilles at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (bzsXQ)

109
This is absurd on its face, as anyone who has ever listened to Trump for more than a few minutes - let alone watched his policy and diplomacy - knows. In order to come up with it, you'd have to think this way yourself. Cheri Jacobs absolutely *would* play this game to hurt Trump.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop

Exactly. They always accuse us of what they actually do. Exhibits 1-1000000. sabotaging the economy to get trump, corrupting our intelligence and law enforcement services to get trump, allowing and encouraging cities to burn to get trump, trying to isolate the us to get Trump , allowing unchecked illegal immigration to get Trump. Etc.

Posted by: LASue at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (Ed8Zd)

110 If last weekends events in Afghanistan were Trump's fault, why didn't Biden do anything to prevent it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:17 AM (LvTSG)

Bidet said nobody saw it coming which proves Trump really does play 11 dimensional chess.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (AiZBA)

111 Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

And no college deferments, except vital stem, and then maybe
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:15 AM (ONvIw)

not even then. it would actually HELP most of the students to have real world experience before getting into college. it might even offset some of the indoctrination.

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (8D42x)

112 Jonah Goldberg
@JonahDispatch
I am really struggling to think of a time when I despaired more for the country and had so much contempt not just for both parties, but the bases of both parties.

Really, Fatboy? You can't think of a time when you had contempt for the GOP base?

Because I sure can.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (Bmy3R)

113 And no college deferments, except vital stem, and then maybe

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:15 AM (ONvIw)

Nothing wrong with going in at 18, and starting college at 20. Our universities would be far more serious than they are today.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (Q9lwr)

114 The simple fact is, America's military might meant this war could've been ended at any time.

America's leaders chose not to.

Two decades later, these leaders are all far wealthier, far more unaccountable and tucked away in their comfy lifestyles.

Must be nice.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (KbCG3)

115 90 And biden was powerless to change Trumps plan? No control at all?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (OoCxN)

Anybody who tries to pawn that argument off - ask them why Biden felt it necessary to remove the price controls on insulin and epipens. I'll wait while they stammer and stutter.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (N39Ws)

116 If last weekends events in Afghanistan were Trump's fault, why didn't Biden do anything to prevent it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:17 AM

We all know that Joe didn't overturn anything orangemanbad did. Oh wait. Never mind. Oh and BTW the next time some leftist prick says Trump was going to pull out in May, he was but the Taliban naturally blew the deal and Trump said fuck you and scrapped it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 19, 2021 10:20 AM (mV+3t)

117 33 Zo, who will control the opium market?
Posted by: runner at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (w45mR)

Heh.
Posted by: See Eye A at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (Rbu5d)

Hahaha. You reave now, loundeye.

Posted by: CHI-Comm military at August 19, 2021 10:20 AM (1R20R)

118 91 Funny how all republicans have been silent, isn't it.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)
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Their silence is deafening.
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They are being cautious and calculating as they watch the slow-motion trainwreck. Remember, the Marxist Rat bastards of the Left have a way of pulling the rabbit out of the hat by always "seizing the crisis" for their own use--especially when aided by the US Pravda MSM. The corporatist cabal of Shitt Rumney, Sasse, et all are especially sitting in conference with their globalist corporatist lovers.

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat bastards and RINO azz suckers at August 19, 2021 10:20 AM (5DfsO)

119 Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 10:03 AM (LBiAf)

How do you and Broseidon divide your dominion? Is there much inter-kingdom rivalry? Are you members of the same pantheon?

Posted by: banana Dream at August 19, 2021 10:20 AM (zH+TV)

120 Who the hell is Cheri Jacobus, other than another loony bint?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (II3Gr)

https://tinyurl.com/8b37hxy3

Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:20 AM (AwYPR)

121 My employer has sent out another "guide to masks," in which they say that "While unmasked for meals, eating, and drinking, you should minimize your time unmasked."

In other words, gobble and guzzle your food and drink like a starving Afghani refugee. Got it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:20 AM (/XOcP)

122 102
Replying to @JonahDispatch
Man, I wish I didn't feel what you're feeling about the public. That's the source of my despair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

They want to dissolve the public and import a new one.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (63Dwl)

How true that is. I used to read some interesting 'conservative' blogs that suggested that very thing. Import 'true' Americans. They're pretty silent about the mess that their beloved Puddinhead has created this week.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 19, 2021 10:21 AM (mdjgu)

123 Yeah...Republicans are talking. They're not silent.

They're not doing anything else, but they're not silent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:21 AM (LvTSG)

124 Sadly the modern society pays more attention to the MCU than the UCMJ.

Posted by: Blind Roscoe McGee at August 19, 2021 10:21 AM (vted1)

125 "As the letter suggests, we need to return to a time in which the use of the military was driven by the needs of America, not the fantasies of a globalist elite or the frantic demands of nation-building fanatics."

The march through the institutions took control of media and Hollywood for initial propaganda, moved through our schools ... military and police maybe were (fully) infiltrated later. ... So maybe they can be taken back first? idk

The globalist oligarchs are at war with Liberty, which is mostly the West, with USA the prime ultimate objective. Homeland Security is preparing (like Australia) to use military against the civilians. They have already dictated that resistance to vaccines and election fraud is Domestic Terrorism
-- (set up with the FBI/Antifa PsyOp "Insurrection" ... called worse than 9/11, worse than Pearl Harbor ... in their MSM driven Narrative)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2021 10:21 AM (Cus5s)

126
Nothing wrong with going in at 18, and starting college at 20. Our universities would be far more serious than they are today.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (Q9lwr)

I agree completely, but I am not opposed to including older draftees, or being sure that kids can't be started in college at 17 to avoid the draft.

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:21 AM (ONvIw)

127 Post 100

Mauler just uploaded a rant about Marvel's Black Widow.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (3TihK)

128 In order for this to be true, there is one root assumption that you absolutely must acknowledge and accept without question: that Trump would rather humiliate the country, thrust her international affairs into chaos and run the risk of destabilizing not just America but the world at large in order to ensure that Biden didn't get a major win.

You must also assume that Trump knew that Biden would win which is why he went to all the trouble sabotage the mission. He was fighting the BS election results to the end.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (U7wke)

129 I actually blame the media the most. We've been in AFG for 20 years and even a news junkie like me has had the barest understanding of how it might be going or what life was like there on a daily basis.

The video that was brought to the fore yesterday showing the marines trying to train the Afghans who only cared about smoking hash, if the media had actually reported we'd have had that information and we'd know that a 300,000 strong Afghan army would collapse in minutes - and we'd have known to abandon that hellhole to its fate at least a decade ago

But for 20 years+, the media has only cared about supporting Ds and destroying Rs, and anything that didn't fit neatly into that template was ignored

Posted by: arminius256 at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (Dpgtk)

130 Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.

Holy fuck.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM (1R20R)

And he accomplished all that in less than 3 months!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (phdxB)

131 We're supposed to watch the shit show all around us and be powerless to do anything about it.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:18 AM (wAnMi)

Now imagine what they are conducting, planning transitioning and transforming well out of public view.

Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (mhQH9)

132 I have nothing to say on this debacle. I am beyond Speechless...I'm far into the realm of "rendered mute".

Posted by: USMC8541 at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (Z6LNn)

133 If we do that I am glad I will be out by then and not have to deal with that shit show

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (Irn0L)

That is a reasonable debate to have, but the country is so polarized between those who serve and those who send them to fight and die that something needs to change.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (Q9lwr)

134 Charlie Rangel was the one who kept calling for the reinstatement of the draft. Mostly to put the kibosh on any military actions.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2021 10:15 AM (63Dwl)

A draft with no exemptions would ensnare children of the rich and powerful, the middle class, working class and poor equally.
That'd never be allowed to happen. Dying is for the little people.
But, Rangel the broken clock was right that a draft would temper our eagerness to flex on the world.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2021 10:23 AM (z79tQ)

135 Now Corn Pop was a bad dude.........

What a shithead Joey Toots is. Trump did it !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 19, 2021 10:23 AM (M+Lyo)

136 37 35 Trump"s fault!

Cheri Jacobus
@CheriJacobus
Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (d9FiS)

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Is that why Biden didn't follow Trump's plan?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:07 AM (LvTSG)

Man, it's a shame we don't have enough competent people within the administration to thwart this booby trap. Guess Trump was a lot more clever than he was ever given credit for, eh Cheri?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 10:23 AM (KbCG3)

137 Talented Refugees that come with Federal Funding are hard to find. It will be interesting to see which Blue Shithole City bids the highest for these slaves.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2021 10:23 AM (/MaDp)

138 I love the smell of hubris in the morning.

Posted by: Col. Miklos, heading out to the lake at August 19, 2021 10:23 AM (QzkSJ)

139 60 Took my tenants to court to evict them and won. They had a lawyer and everything. Back rent, court costs, GTFO.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:11 AM (OoCxN)

Hope they don't destroy it before they leave.

Posted by: See Eye A at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (Rbu5d)

140 From Instapundit: The Durham Report Is a Glacier.
Yeah, melting away into nothingness at a glacial pace.

Posted by: Downcast at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (OVElz)

141
Holy fuck.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM (1R20R)

And he accomplished all that in less than 3 months!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (phdxB)

So that bint is admitting that Trump is more effective out of office than Biden is IN office. Wonder if she notices that.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (z79tQ)

142 I am not defending the silent so called republicans, but remember when your enemy keeps digging that deep hole trying to get out sometimes the best thing to do is just stand back and watch or give them extra shovels. Unfortunetaly, this will get Americans killed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (Irn0L)

143 What has driven my lack of respect for the armed services (and bear in mind I am talking about the leaders and not the man in the field) is the determination and eagerness almost daily displayed to use the military not to defend America or her interests, but to actively punish, persecute and kill Americans who oppose the Democrat junta.

I feel the same way about the police. With their eagerness to enforce mask diktats, arrest MAGA protestors and stand down while entire cities burn, any respect I had for them has also gone down the toilet.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:08 AM (2JVJo)

This. It's a fool's errand to respect institutions. I respect actions. Reminder, Australia's vaunted military is currently being used to imprison its citizens. And they're happily doing the job.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (KbCG3)

144 And no college deferments, except vital stem, and then maybe
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021

not even then. it would actually HELP most of the students to have real world experience before getting into college. it might even offset some of the indoctrination.
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021

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At 18, I just didn't want to go to boot camp. (I didn't want to get shot or step on a land mine in a foreign country either.) If they'd put me in a uniform, taught me how to use a rifle more effectively, and put me in an office Stateside or in Germany, I'd have been fine with being drafted.

My plan, if it had come close to that, would have been to sign up for the Navy and try to get into submarines.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (/XOcP)

145 As has been said, our biggest concern is where the Deep State, Uniparty, MIC and War Machine are going to shift operations to?

The War Machine needs to be fed a steady diet of Blood and Treasure, where to next.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (GOGEo)

146 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 10:23 AM (KbCG3)

I can't imagine that Trump planned to abandon Bagram and Americans. Pure lies, Jacobus is a long term Trump hater, and general scumbag

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (ONvIw)

147 @joshdcaplan 1m

CNN: Supreme Court evacuated over claims of suspected explosives

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (cF8AT)

148 Here's the other nonsense about the "booby trap" statement. Trump expected to win. He would have been the one to deal with ending it. Also Biden killed his program designed to extract people from situations like this.

And while she mentions Russia, they never ever mention China.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (5HBd1)

149 Took my tenants to court to evict them and won. They had a lawyer and everything. Back rent, court costs, GTFO.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:11 AM (OoCxN)

Now you have to execute and collect?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (Irn0L)

150 Preach it, CBD.

By the way, how is your Haggadah coming along?

Posted by: Moki at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (JrN/x)

151 I am not going to argue that our military leadership is broken. Bigly. This Desert Storm non-com agrees with The Last Refuge(Lara Logan and Tuca edition) - it is broken because we want it that way. The withdrawal or whatever you want to call it is exactly as someone wants it to be. Quit getting caught in the weeds and focus on trying to figure out who is pulling XiDen's strings and it has to be someone like Blackrock as they probably stand to profit on any one of these horrible things.

To my brother and sister veterans - you boots are valiant, the suits are the failure. Never forget that. We will make this right again!

Posted by: Danimal28 at August 19, 2021 10:26 AM (8O629)

152 The destruction of the military began in Vietnam. But it really accelerated when the Democrats cut off funding for South Vietnam. I watched that happen locally. We were ordered back to the States. And the officers ordered all kind of chickenshit stuff on the way back. Stuff like sea-bag inspections. I got gigged because I did not bring a set of winter style uniforms to the South China Sea. I did not GAS though, I was down to the short strokes on my enlistment. I had about 30 days and a wake up.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2021 10:26 AM (mpXpK)

153 Don't worry...the media has top spots in the dead pool.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 19, 2021 10:26 AM (RlSZN)

154 Police are investigating a report of a possible explosive device in a pickup truck outside the Library of Congress on Capitol Hill. They evacuated the area around the building. The Cannon House Office Building is being evacuated.

Congress is out of town.

Biden Abandons Americans Trapped In DC

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:26 AM (RHGPo)

155 Hubbymayhem was in Germany and then deployed to Haiti.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 19, 2021 10:13 AM

Really? When was Hubbymayhem in Haiti? I might have crossed paths with him.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2021 10:26 AM (m+jkK)

156 Yeah...Republicans are talking. They're not silent.

They're not doing anything else, but they're not silent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leadi

Tom cotton is trying to help.

Posted by: LASue at August 19, 2021 10:26 AM (Ed8Zd)

157 CNN: Supreme Court evacuated over claims of suspected explosives
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (cF8AT)

Stray voltage ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 19, 2021 10:27 AM (M+Lyo)

158 Square this circle, we now have more troops in Afghanistan after our "pull out" than when we had three weeks ago when we were still occupying the joint.

We also no longer have any bases or in country support systems.

What a catastrophy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 19, 2021 10:27 AM (GOGEo)

159 So that bint is admitting that Trump is more effective out of office than Biden is IN office. Wonder if she notices that.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (z79tQ)

She just wants to get to the next story.

Meanwhile we can spin our wheels now arguing about Trump and laying out mathematical proofs and logic and and showing our work, while she sits back and waits for the wind to shift in a more favorable direction.

This is what the Left do.

Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 10:27 AM (mhQH9)

160 Stray voltage ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 19, 2021 10:27 AM (M+Lyo)

Kagan and Sotomeyer had breakfast burritos.

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (cF8AT)

161 Now you have to execute and collect?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (Irn0L)

Wouldn't it make more sense to reverse the order if he is going to execute the tenants?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (CYEwl)

162 And no college deferments, except vital stem, and then maybe
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021

not even then. it would actually HELP most of the students to have real world experience before getting into college. it might even offset some of the indoctrination.
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021

Israel has an interesting way of handling this. If you're an exceptionally talented math youth, for instance, you go directly into a non-combat skunkworks section to ply your skills. It counts as military service, and you train with everyone else, but you get to do it in a lab.

I believe that some of the most interesting commercial tech innovations (ICQ, Waze, etc.) ended up coming from the kids in that section of the military.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (mdjgu)

163 The real problem is no one is accountable. No one has the guts to make these bastards pay.
By rights the lot of them should be committing Seppuku on the steps of the Capitol at high noon today. But no, they'll retire, get their fat pensions and horse farms in Virginia

Posted by: Iblis at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (9221z)

164 The dissolution of American strength is going to have broad ramifications. Lots of countries will consider going nuclear. South Korea, Japan and Taiwan would be insane not to do so. Germany and even Norway might consider it. Ukraine no doubt regrets giving up its missiles under Bush, no doubt.

Weapons, especially conventional weapons, tend to get used. So conflicts China periodically has with India, Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines should be expected to turn into wars.

Thanks, Biden and his Demofascists. Thanks NeverTrumpers.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (pOHui)

165 >>Police are investigating a report of a possible explosive device in a pickup truck outside the Library of Congress on Capitol Hill. They evacuated the area around the building. The Cannon House Office Building is being evacuated.

Odds that pickup truck has 'MAGA Country' bumper sticker on it?

Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (5iUNf)

166 Kagan and Sotomeyer had breakfast burritos.
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (cF8AT)

PFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (M+Lyo)

167 84 82 Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

Including women.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (gfh9Z)

168 Tom cotton is trying to help.
Posted by: LASue at August 19, 2021

***
Syndicated radio hosts Walton & Johnson mentioned him this morning very positively. Apparently Cotton announced that if you're an American civilian stuck in Agfa-stan, get a message to him and he'll try to help. W & J said that at least 2 couples have been rescued thanks to him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:29 AM (/XOcP)

169 159 So that bint is admitting that Trump is more effective out of office than Biden is IN office. Wonder if she notices that.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (z79tQ)

She just wants to get to the next story.

Meanwhile we can spin our wheels now arguing about Trump and laying out mathematical proofs and logic and and showing our work, while she sits back and waits for the wind to shift in a more favorable direction.

This is what the Left do.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 10:27 AM (mhQH9)

Right, the appropriate response is a sarcastic comment about how touching her faith in dementia joe is.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 10:29 AM (z5Vrg)

170 Military officers are now risk-adverse. They've seen too many brave men get fired when they do what's right instead of what's ordered.

See also the complete lack (with the possible exception of Terrence Popp) of SF guys trying to prepare citizens for the shitstorm to come.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 10:29 AM (XvPQV)

171 Took my tenants to court to evict them and won. They had a lawyer and everything. Back rent, court costs, GTFO.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 10:11 AM (OoCxN)

Hope they don't destroy it before they leave.
Posted by: See Eye A at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (Rbu5d)

Congrats! on getting them gone - hope they just leave. I *SO* dodged that bullet last year. Tenants trashed place and left just before the lockdown. If they'd have stayed one more month they'd have been living free. No idea what I would have done short of foreclosure. Too old for this shit.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:29 AM (wAnMi)

172 This is what the Left do.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 10:27 AM (mhQH9)

She lost her defamation suit against Trump, and her USA Today and The Hill gigs over her vile remarks about Michael Caputo's children. It's personal

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:29 AM (ONvIw)

173
Including women.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (gfh9Z)

Yes.

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:29 AM (ONvIw)

174 By the way, how is your Haggadah coming along?

Posted by: Moki at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (JrN/x)

Slow...very slow. I haven't decided how to structure it. The text itself is moving along better than the format.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:30 AM (Q9lwr)

175
The Silly Generals and Double Dip Joe are "men" without honor.

So, no resignations or firings in disgrace.

I expect Ole Soft Serve Joe will find a way to make them Six Star Generals.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2021 10:30 AM (Xo5lP)

176 Morning.

Joe Biden is a traitorous shitbag and miserable failure.

In honor of the Art Thread...

Sabaton - Seven Pillars Of Wisdom

https://youtu.be/KHLxal7GdpM

Posted by: Robert - 15 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 19, 2021 10:30 AM (1Yy3c)

177 It's just like Woodstock except for guns..bazooka things.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 19, 2021 10:30 AM (RlSZN)

178 Wait, so Trump is brilliant again?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 19, 2021 10:30 AM (ySQBZ)

179 XiDen's strings and it has to be someone like Blackrock as they probably stand to profit on any one of these horrible things.

Posted by: Danimal28 at August 19, 2021 10:26 AM (8O629)

Black rock is the top buyer of bonds of my company. They're requiring the woke dance to their tune. Disgusting

This is why I will most likely take the buyout in 2 months.

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2021 10:30 AM (9UmRs)

180 Has there been any vocal support for rezident retard's latest fuck up from establishment Democrats? I know that septic mess called Pelosi mouthed some praise for him. But to be honest I don't think she's aware of what's going on anyway.

I'm not sensing a "rally 'round the retard" moment here...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (BFigT)

181 Including women.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (gfh9Z)

Hmmm....that is conversation we as a country should have.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (Q9lwr)

182 My plan, if it had come close to that, would have been to sign up for the Navy and try to get into submarines.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Uh, I'm here to tell you "Needs of the Navy" could, and did, throw a wrench into those plans.

I know more than a few guys that enlisted and got their contracts to become Corpsman and a cushy berth stateside or aboard ships.

When the Marine Corps ran short of Corpsmen. . . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (mD/uy)

183 It appears that everyone at the top is for sale. Everyone. As George Washington famously said:

Me and my homies woulda been stacking bodies by now.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (Jxqr2)

184 Nothing wrong with going in at 18, and starting college at 20. Our universities would be far more serious than they are today.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:19 AM (Q9lwr)

I went to college after the Navy. I recall a history teacher who would spend the entire class screaming at me because I wouldn't just accept his BS. Oddly enough, he was a pretty good teacher and offered to assist me into getting into any advanced program I wanted.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (U7wke)

185 Kagan and Sotomeyer had breakfast burritos.
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (cF8AT)

PFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (M+Lyo)
---

Biological warfare.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (3TihK)

186 Now they've sent snipers to kill some guy in the scary pickup truck.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (ySQBZ)

187 82 Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

Gone are the gay exemptions

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (RHGPo)

188 Well America's honor has been squandered a long time ago.

The decline is being managed by the traitors in the. Senate.

Posted by: torabora at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (g3HkN)

189 >>>we need to return to a time in which the use of the military was driven by the needs of America

But the Wokesters will define those "needs" differently than you.

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (6dJKT)

190
But no, they'll retire, get their fat pensions and horse farms in Virginia
Posted by: Iblis at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (9221z)

------

Yeah, nobody in this generation will face justice. Too soon. If we're lucky, we'll see the younger generation deposed and executed. But that's unlikely. I think our corrupt ruling class probably has another 40-50 years left in the tank before things get so bad that they're all dragged off to a gallows by their own praetorian guards.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (rZA2o)

191 Thanks, Biden and his Demofascists. Thanks NeverTrumpers.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 10:28 AM (pOHui)

Do the neverTrumpers ever realize they're wrong 100% of the time? Or do they always just move pivot to the next thing hoping nobody notices? The dems on the other hand know exactly what they're doing.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (wAnMi)

192
Hmmm....that is conversation we as a country should have.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (Q9lwr)

I don't care if women are assigned to 2 years of mopping floors, they need to go too.

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (ONvIw)

193 >>>Resignation is a time-honored response to orders, or lack of orders that fly in the face of duty.

Falling on a sword is o.k., too.

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (6dJKT)

194 89 Jonah Goldberg and Tom Nichols agree; it's your fault.

Jonah Goldberg
@JonahDispatch
I am really struggling to think of a time when I despaired more for the country and had so much contempt not just for both parties, but the bases of both parties.

Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
Replying to @JonahDispatch
Man, I wish I didn't feel what you're feeling about the public. That's the source of my despair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (d9FiS)

Don't worry fellas.. we hate you both with the heat of 1,000 suns.

Posted by: Inogame at August 19, 2021 10:33 AM (53oGX)

195 Many might kill themselves before surrendering.

Day after day the fear in some would be too much.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 19, 2021 10:33 AM (RlSZN)

196 I keep seeing this repetitive comment that the GOP is not saying anything about Afghanistan which is so far from the truth I am wondering what the goal is with repeating it. Maybe if you turned on a news channel or radio show you would find a Republican not just talking about Afghanistan but trying to do something to get people out and find out how far down the chain of military command the incompetence goes. Tom Cotton is actively providing a contact point for those Americans in Afghanistan. Marsha Blackburn is meeting with DOD officials. Crenshaw is working with contractors whose people are left behind. I am not going to list all the Republicans who I have listened to the past few days. Enough with the BS that they are all silent.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2021 10:33 AM (q2OaP)

197 She lost her defamation suit against Trump, and her USA Today and The Hill gigs over her vile remarks about Michael Caputo's children. It's personal
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:29 AM (ONvIw)

I'll admit to not knowing who tf she is.

Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 10:33 AM (mhQH9)

198 I know more than a few guys that enlisted and got their contracts to become Corpsman and a cushy berth stateside or aboard ships.

When the Marine Corps ran short of Corpsmen. . . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (mD/uy)

I know a few guys that went Coast Guard...ended up on river craft.

Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (AwYPR)

199 Mauler just uploaded a rant about Marvel's Black Widow.
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 19, 2021 10:22 AM (3TihK)

I saw that. I'l check it out later, when I have a spare eight hours.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (XvPQV)

200 COVID infections in UK schools under 1%...and the kids are not masked. Public health official is against masking children due to low infection rate and the fact that "wearing face coverings could affect their development". link goes to Fortune:

https://tinyurl.com/4w84trxd

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (DJFLF)

201 I agree completely, but I am not opposed to including older draftees, or being sure that kids can't be started in college at 17 to avoid the draft.
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:21 AM (ONvIw)
++++
This can be handled the way do in Korea. They have universal male service. There is some flexibility about *when* you do it (and I imagine that the flexibility is reduced during war), but everyone has to. Wanna go to college first? Okay - but you're serving when you get out. Don't want to put your pop idol career on hold? Okay - to a point - but you're serving at X date regardless, even if it means you have to stage a comeback. Wanna wait a year to marry your sweetheart before you serve? Okay - but you're going when you get back from your honeymoon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (3p5uk)

202 My plan, if it had come close to that, would have been to sign up for the Navy and try to get into submarines.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Uh, I'm here to tell you "Needs of the Navy" could, and did, throw a wrench into those plans.

I know more than a few guys that enlisted and got their contracts to become Corpsman and a cushy berth stateside or aboard ships.

When the Marine Corps ran short of Corpsmen. . . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2021
***
I'm sure now that it would have been chancy for it to work out. But I was 18, remember. I'd have been glad to serve overseas in subs, not only Stateside.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (/XOcP)

203 "Tell me what I want to hear" is not unique to our Armed Services. It's as old as Adam and Eve, and the root of evil in any decision-making process.

Posted by: red speck at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (gS3OW)

204 The streams have been crossing in my orbit, where the lefty anti-military people are NOW in favor of Endless Wars, because of the photos of Afghanis they are seeing on facebook.

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (6dJKT)

205 If women truly want to be treated as equals, they need to accept the same responsibility and risk as men.

You can't have it both ways.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (LPnn8)

206 I keep seeing this repetitive comment that the GOP is not saying anything about Afghanistan which is so far from the truth

Senator Rubio made a pretty blistering statement about it, I saw it on youtube

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (DJFLF)

207 My employer has sent out another "guide to masks," in which they say that "While unmasked for meals, eating, and drinking, you should minimize your time unmasked."

In other words, gobble and guzzle your food and drink like a starving Afghani refugee. Got it.
Posted by: Wolfus

Have snacks and drink out on your desk at all times.
No mask.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (EfNTU)

208 I agree completely, but I am not opposed to including older draftees, or being sure that kids can't be started in college at 17 to avoid the draft.
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:21 AM (ONvIw)

from the DAY after they graduate high school until their 29th birfday should be the eligibility timeframe, imo.

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (8D42x)

209 Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

Gone are the gay exemptions
Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (RHGPo)

Now it's mandatory

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (XvPQV)

210 82 Yes, which is why it had to go. If we ever reinstitute the draft it will have to be everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (Q9lwr)

Or, we can go the Starship Troopers route. Citizenship and voting rights for military service, although anyone else can benefit from living here.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (mdjgu)

211 Gone are the gay exemptions
Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (RHGPo)

I have no idea how they're going to put the toothpaste back into that tube. What do we do with all of these openly gay and transgender types? I'm thinking there must be someplace for them in biohazard or radiation work. Maybe sweeping for landmines? The goal here would be to get them back in their closets.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (wAnMi)

212 Well said, CBD.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (cUUIs)

213
Jonah Goldberg
@JonahDispatch
I am really struggling to think of a time when I despaired more for the country and had so much contempt not just for both parties, but the bases of both parties.

Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
Replying to @JonahDispatch
Man, I wish I didn't feel what you're feeling about the public. That's the source of my despair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:16 AM (d9FiS)

Aww, we let you bloated mediocrities down? Failed to live up to your expectations, did we? I'm sooooo sorry, fatty ding-dongs!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (rZA2o)

214 Slow...very slow. I haven't decided how to structure it. The text itself is moving along better than the format.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:30 AM (Q9lwr)
++++
I am working on retyping the one my dad wrote for our family when I was a youngster. I can send a copy to you when I finish if you'd like.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (3p5uk)

215 Pentagon presser. Goes like this

: evacuating 5-9000 a day capability.

: OK we have capability, but flights not filled to capacity

: OK we flew out 7,000 people since the 14th

: they were not all American flights, some American,
some were EU flights don't know actual numbers

: yesterday US flew out 2000 people; 300 were Americans the rest were Afghans. Don't know how many Americans are waiting to leave

Posted by: Ziba at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (S1hrL)

216 209 Gone are the gay exemptions
Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (RHGPo)

Now it's mandatory
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (XvPQV)

=========

The military is now a British boarding school?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (LvTSG)

217 Biden is back to totally ridiculous lying.

President Biden in an interview with ABC that aired Thursday said "no one's being killed" in Afghanistan despite reports of at least seven deaths amid the chaos at Kabul's airport and of Taliban beating people on their way to the airport, as he defended his handling of the American withdrawal from the country.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (mpXpK)

218
That essay on Insty is spot on, but totally irrelevant, because that general isn't willing to sign his fucking name to it. Frankly, he's a coward, hiding behind Insty's skirts.

I'm sick and tired of being told that I'm supposed to venerate some flag officer just because he has stars on his epaulets. This guy is no different.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (n+4am)

219 146 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 10:23 AM (KbCG3)

I can't imagine that Trump planned to abandon Bagram and Americans. Pure lies, Jacobus is a long term Trump hater, and general scumbag
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (ONvIw)

He didn't and she's full of it. Trump wanted out of Afghanistan during a time which he fully expected to be president. He didn't suddenly concoct this bullshit on January 19. I cannot hate these people more if I tried.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (KbCG3)

220 Of course, all odd special events are scheduled for the weeks that Congress and the POTUS are out of town.

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (RHGPo)

221 women truly want to be treated as equals, they need to accept the same responsibility and risk as men.

You can't have it both ways.

EQUALS? Why would I want a demotion?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (ySQBZ)

222 @193

As has been said, in an earlier age, honor and duty would have compelled them to go off into the woods and do the honorable thing.

Instead they will probably get massive payola book deals, such as....

ClusterFuck: The Mark Milley Story - Wasting Blood and Treasure and the further Adventures of Eating Soup With A Knife in Muslim Shit holes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (GOGEo)

223 205 If women truly want to be treated as equals, they need to accept the same responsibility and risk as men.

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (LPnn

That, and gay marriage, are what Phyllis Schlafly used to scuttle the ERA 40+ years ago. For now.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (mdjgu)

224 146...Jacobus is a long term Trump hater, and general scumbag
Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:25 AM (ONvIw)

And has the crazy eyes to go with it!

Posted by: Flyover at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (Rbu5d)

225 In other words, gobble and guzzle your food and drink like a starving Afghani refugee. Got it.
Posted by: Wolfus

Have snacks and drink out on your desk at all times.
No mask.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 19, 2021

***
Which is what I do. However, my office is almost devoid of anybody but myself 95% of the time, so I'm clear there too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (/XOcP)

226 I've heard thru my trap line that the Air Biden incident is being investigated. I have very little confidence in the pilot keeping his/her job.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (axyOa)

227 @JackPosobiec

Imagine the board meeting that led to this segment

https://tinyurl.com/yjpzehbq

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (cF8AT)

228 One can have respect for the armed forces while loathing our general class. Honestly, since WW2, has America really respected any generals? Schwartzkauf is the only one that comes to mind that has really garnered much respect. Ridgeway and Lemay. We respect and can revere Grant and Patton, but they were accomplished leaders. We can respect Eisenhower and McArthur, they were winners. There is simply no general worthy of much respect since WW2.

Posted by: SH (Non-Expert) at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (sX1BW)

229 He didn't and she's full of it. Trump wanted out of Afghanistan during a time which he fully expected to be president. He didn't suddenly concoct this bullshit on January 19. I cannot hate these people more if I tried.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (KbCG3)

She's a true Trump obsessed hater, she'll make up any stupid story to get back at him for HER behavior.

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (ONvIw)

230 There's opportunity now in Kabul to open a kosher deli!

Posted by: torabora at August 19, 2021 10:38 AM (g3HkN)

231 Old Military Motto: Leave No Man Behind.

New Military Motto: Fuck you, you're on your own.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 19, 2021 10:38 AM (GOGEo)

232 Full transcript of the Biden/Stephanopoulos interview here:

https://is.gd/itwas4or5daysago

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 10:38 AM (6dJKT)

233 Hmmm....that is conversation we as a country should have.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:31 AM (Q9lwr)
++++
Women *must* be put into Selective Service. I am opposed to women in combat, but there are logistics and support roles in the armed forces, and they should be a part of the draft. They have equal rights and the right to vote, but none of the obligations to enter the draft. This is grotesquely unequal and unfair.

There is a reason the Suffragettes never had a majority of women on board, and this is it. Most women at the time believed - foolishly, as it turns out - that if they were given the vote, they'd be expected to have their number called up and go serve. And this was a much higher risk then, as men were drafted all the time for things like road works and fire brigades before everything was professionalized. That wasn't worth the vote to a majority of women at the time. Most of them didn't expect the free ride that they got.

It's time to end it. Women belong in the Selective Service if they're going to be equal and have the vote.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:39 AM (3p5uk)

234 Afghanistan was just another way for the O-rank class to pad their promotion file.

20 years of officers riding a desk to get their "combat ribbon" checkbox.

Sure a bunch of E-rank were killed and maimed. But they aren't from the good parts of America ... and it was over 5 days ago, so who cares?

Posted by: Mrm88 at August 19, 2021 10:39 AM (jIL4c)

235 Gone are the gay exemptions
Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:32 AM (RHGPo)

Now it's mandatory
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (XvPQV)

=========

The military is now a British boarding school?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (LvTSG)

They say the military makes men, it certainly made Pete Buttgig

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 10:39 AM (XvPQV)

236 I'd have been glad to serve overseas in subs, not only Stateside.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (/XOcP)

Pretty sure that's not how it works.

Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:39 AM (AwYPR)

237 If last weekends events in Afghanistan were Trump's fault, why didn't Biden do anything to prevent it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:17 AM (LvTSG)

Because Trump set him up the bomb.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

238 231 Old Military Motto: Leave No Man Behind.

New Military Motto: Fuck you, you're on your own.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 19, 2021 10:38 AM (GOGEo)

AMFYOYO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2021 10:40 AM (Irn0L)

239 @RyanAFournier 2m

BREAKING: Twitter has suspended the account of Afghanistan's elected President...

And have allowed the Taliban to keep their accounts.

Can't make this up.

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:40 AM (cF8AT)

240 Sure a bunch of E-rank were killed and maimed. But they aren't from the good parts of America ... and it was over 5 days ago, so who cares?

awful. But then elites have always used the sons of the working class and the poor as human sacrifice

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2021 10:40 AM (DJFLF)

241 227 @JackPosobiec

Imagine the board meeting that led to this segment

https://tinyurl.com/yjpzehbq
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (cF8AT)

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 10:41 AM (6dJKT)

242 Old Military Motto: Leave No Man Behind.

Turn Our Backs Better

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 19, 2021 10:41 AM (AytXr)

243 Or, we can go the Starship Troopers route. Citizenship and voting rights for military service, although anyone else can benefit from living here.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 19, 2021

***
Exactly. Heinlein during his lifetime said that the novel states more than once that *any* civil service post would qualify you to vote once you get out, but I've scanned that book carefully, and I don't see any such detail. It's mostly about the military. He does make clear, I think, that you can't vote until you are honorably discharged.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:41 AM (/XOcP)

244 I look forward to using the "that was four or five days ago" defense when I eventually go on trial for something. Should be a hoot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:41 AM (3p5uk)

245 I can send a copy to you when I finish if you'd like.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:36 AM (3p5uk)

Yes please! That is very nice of you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:41 AM (Q9lwr)

246 #226 which Air Biden incident?
There's dozens. I like the one where he shit on the seat.

Posted by: torabora at August 19, 2021 10:41 AM (g3HkN)

247
One book has a whole chapter about an old man who dresses up in his finest clothes every November to cast his vote and the text talks about what a sacred duty it is to be an involved, informed citizen.

You can imagine what anyone reading that tripe now would say.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:12 AM (2JVJo)

My dad was a stonemason so every day, he would come home with his work clothes covered in cement dust. Whenever he got called to jury duty, he dressed in a suit and tie to go proudly perform his civic duty. My sister and I ( and my daughter, now, too!) wear nice, business-style dresses when we are called. We are the only ones not dressed as if to clean out our garages AND no attorney EVER picks us to be on a jury!

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (l0Cy4)

248 From Instapundit: The Durham Report Is a Glacier.
Yeah, melting away into nothingness at a glacial pace.
Posted by: Downcast at August 19, 2021 10:24 AM (OVElz)

Insty is a joke of a site. Between his pimping products, Special Ed's Magical Mystery Music Tour and Treacher's general snottiness, the site has devolved from a must-read into a behemoth cruising on the fumes of its past reputation.

Sarah Hoyt is about the only one there worth reading, and even she gets on my nerves.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (2JVJo)

249
"Tell me what I want to hear" is not unique to our Armed Services. It's as old as Adam and Eve, and the root of evil in any decision-making process.
Posted by: red speck at August 19, 2021 10:34 AM (gS3OW)

"What we wish, we readily believe, and what we ourselves think, we imagine others think also."

I find myself quoting Caesar more often lately.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (rZA2o)

250 The upside of our military is that it's a purely volunteer organization. The downside is exactly the same reason.

Our family has had people in service to the country since the Revolutionary War. We span all the branches and the service runs from one and done to a career. I'm extremely proud to have played even a miniscule part in that tradition and it hurts to see our service involved in social engineering in ANY manner.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (KATBx)

251
Imagine the board meeting that led to this segment

https://tinyurl.com/yjpzehbq
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (cF8AT)

When stuffed shirt teleprompter white guy reads jive.......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

252
Slow...very slow. I haven't decided how to structure it. The text itself is moving along better than the format.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:30 AM (Q9lwr)

Based on your examples here, I expect it will be outstanding. Will happily read it when you finish!

Posted by: Moki at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (JrN/x)

253 Or, we can go the Starship Troopers route. Citizenship and voting rights for military service, although anyone else can benefit from living here.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (mdjgu)

You know, I'd be totally up for drafting any age. Retired people don't need to have a gun, but could be of great use in communications, technology and other office type jobs. Doesn't even need to be full time. I'd be happy to lend any sort of expertise I could. Sort of like reserves for retired. Go after the tech sector as well. And maybe if we could actually start deporting the 50M illegals here, signing up could be a great incentive.

I'd also like $20M in gold bouillon, a Bugatti, yacht and my own golf course with bikini models washing my balls on each fairway.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (wAnMi)

254 Wow Tami.

Red Dawn 3

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (RlSZN)

255 That Jacobus is a real piece of shit.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (3p5uk)

256 Drafting women is a waste of time. Wars generally don't happen overnight and people who don't want to fight won't. When it's looking like war is on the horizon that's when you see the Baby Boom.

In times like that...like a real WWII-sequel Holy Shit The Doom Is Nigh war...everyone has their parts to play but not all parts are the same.

Posted by: Robert - 15 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (1Yy3c)

257 @JackPosobiec
Imagine the board meeting that led to this segment

https://tinyurl.com/yjpzehbq
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (cF8AT)
++++
That is ... well, that's something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (3p5uk)

258 Why were the generals so eager to jump at and execute Biden's order to pull out, but lied and stalled and obfuscated every action Trump tried to take toward that?

Is their TDS that deranged?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (lVOAJ)

259 Sarah Hoyt is about the only one there worth reading, and even she gets on my nerves.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (2JVJo)

Sarah is great, I'm surprised they still let her post overnight.

Posted by: Inogame at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (53oGX)

260 @nytimes

Plastic anti-Covid barriers now common in public places have little effect on the virus, and in some cases could help it spread, research suggests.

https://tinyurl.com/yho7dvfn

NO SHITE?!

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (cF8AT)

261 which Air Biden incident?
There's dozens. I like the one where he shit on the seat.
Posted by: torabora at August 19, 2021 10:41 AM (g3HkN)

The C-17 taking off with Afghans hanging on...well, at least for a short time.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (axyOa)

262 I'd have been glad to serve overseas in subs, not only Stateside.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021

Pretty sure that's not how it works.
Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021

***
Possibly not . . . but remember, I was a naive 18-year-old. I didn't know anybody who was in the service or recently out, so I had no one to ask. My hope was that they'd test me and I'd score high enough to get some kind of tech training that would keep me from being shot at in a jungle.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (/XOcP)

263 Old Military Motto: Leave No Man Behind.

New Military Motto: Fuck you, you're on your own.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 19, 2021 10:38 AM (GOGEo)

Old: No man left behind.

New: C'mon MAN!??!?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:44 AM (Zz0t1)

264 In times like that...like a real WWII-sequel Holy Shit The Doom Is Nigh war...everyone has their parts to play but not all parts are the same.
Posted by: Robert - 15 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (1Yy3c)
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Of course. But they should be in the system to be drafted. There are non-combat roles women can fill and they should be compelled to do so if we are in a period of compulsory service.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:44 AM (3p5uk)

265
Is their TDS that deranged?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (lVOAJ)

Short answer, yes.

Posted by: Moki at August 19, 2021 10:44 AM (JrN/x)

266 Police are investigating a report of a possible explosive device in a pickup truck outside the Library of Congress on Capitol Hill.

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Damn redneck pickup trucks!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 10:44 AM (d9FiS)

267 227 @JackPosobiec

Imagine the board meeting that led to this segment

https://tinyurl.com/yjpzehbq
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:37 AM (cF8AT)

The way Posobiec framed that is *chef's kiss*.

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (6dJKT)

268 264 Of course. But they should be in the system to be drafted. There are non-combat roles women can fill and they should be compelled to do so if we are in a period of compulsory service.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:44 AM (3p5uk)

=========

Latrine digger.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (LvTSG)

269 That is ... well, that's something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (3p5uk)

I think it's a lame attempt to get the vaccination rates among the AA community up...or else they will be banned in certain cities from entering buildings and businesses.

Operative word: lame.

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (cF8AT)

270
His decision to remain anonymous is a little puzzling to me.

An officer of his rank certainly knows that the government had his identity within thirty seconds of the letter being posted. What's the point?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (rZA2o)

271 255 That Jacobus is a real piece of shit.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (3p5uk)

Yes.

And I agree that women should have to serve in some capacity. I don't care if they are excluded from combat, as I said, they can clean toilets for two years if need be.

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (ONvIw)

272 196...Enough with the BS that they are all silent.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2021 10:33 AM (q2OaP)

IMO, the exceptions prove the rule.
YMMV.

Posted by: Flyover at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (Rbu5d)

273 That is ... well, that's something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (3p5uk)

i have to get to a device that has sound for that one

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (DJFLF)

274 I think it's a lame attempt to get the vaccination rates among the AA community up...or else they will be banned in certain cities from entering buildings and businesses.

Operative word: lame.
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (cF8AT)
++++
Oh yes, that much is obvious. But it's so ham-handed, bizarre, lame, pandering, stupid and insane that it could only come from the American press.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (3p5uk)

275 269 That is ... well, that's something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (3p5uk)

I think it's a lame attempt to get the vaccination rates among the AA community up...or else they will be banned in certain cities from entering buildings and businesses.

Operative word: lame.
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (cF8AT)

It's racist!!!

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (6dJKT)

276 There is simply no general worthy of much respect since WW2.

There's a chicken/egg problem here though. We have civilian control of the military, and no one since WWII has been allowed to fight a war under rules that were not crazy.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (QU5/8)

277 @266

>>Damn redneck pickup trucks!

The story is not complete until it is discovered that the pickup truck has a MAGA flag on it and the owner attended the 1/6 "Insurrection."

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (GOGEo)

278 throw joe under the bus
Posted by: JoshO
We see with the Cuomo model, your time is up when they decide your usefulness is over.

Posted by: MikeM at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (jbRB1)

279 If women truly want to be treated as equals, they need to accept the same responsibility and risk as men.

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (LPnn

I've heard lots of stories from vets here about women who enlist, decide they don't like it and get knocked up as fast as they can. Somehow I think that would be endemic if we had a draft.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (2JVJo)

280 I'd have been glad to serve overseas in subs, not only Stateside.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021

Pretty sure that's not how it works.
Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021
***

Subs...shudders. And I was born in Groton!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (axyOa)

281 That is ... well, that's something.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (3p5uk)

They should have gotten June Cleaver to read that segment...

Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (5iUNf)

282 Jonah Goldberg and Tom Nichols agree; it's your fault.

If only we'd classified a hot dog as a salad.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (U7wke)

283 I'd also like $20M in gold bouillon, a Bugatti, yacht and my own golf course with bikini models washing my balls on each fairway.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (wAnMi)

You sweat that much playing golf?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (phdxB)

284 205 If women truly want to be treated as equals, they need to accept the same responsibility and risk as men.

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM (LPnn

Agree 100%

Posted by: Flyover at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (Rbu5d)

285 I've heard lots of stories from vets here about women who enlist, decide they don't like it and get knocked up as fast as they can. Somehow I think that would be endemic if we had a draft.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (2JVJo)

But they have pregnant flight suits now...

Posted by: Inogame at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (53oGX)

286 You sweat that much playing golf?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (phdxB)
++++
I think it's more about being able to get it than needing it...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (3p5uk)

287 It's time to end it. Women belong in the Selective Service if they're going to be equal and have the vote.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Meh. Entirely moot until we have a draft.

Do you honestly think there will ever be a draft executed in your lifetime? I dont'.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (1t5dY)

288 Subs...shudders. And I was born in Groton!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (axyOa)

I was stationed there!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (Y5qcH)

289 It's time to end it. Women belong in the Selective Service if they're going to be equal and have the vote.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:39 AM (3p5uk)

It's sad that we can no longer rely on volunteer forces like we could during WWII and Korea. My mom was 17-18 during WWII and cleaned the fuel tanks of bombers in Alameda. She was a tiny little thing, so she could fit. Remember stories of cardboard shoes and such. But she was far from alone. There's plenty of things to be done in all areas of the military, that can be performed even in a wheelchair. Not sure exactly what could be an exemption in this day and age, as they've already been accommodating pretty much anything for decades.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (wAnMi)

290 I've heard lots of stories from vets here about women who enlist, decide they don't like it and get knocked up as fast as they can. Somehow I think that would be endemic if we had a draft.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021

***
Usually just before a deployment. "Woops, got preggers, can't go with my ship to the South China Sea, darn, what a shame!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (/XOcP)

291 If last weekends events in Afghanistan were Trump's fault, why didn't Biden do anything to prevent it?

Joe's got Stealer's Remorse.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (vOGqy)

292 Tom Nichols the expert guy seems a bit of an idiot for an expert.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (cSyAR)

293 Do you honestly think there will ever be a draft executed in your lifetime? I dont'.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (1t5dY)
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I do, yeah. One way or another. Either a formal selective service draft when a foreign country decides that now is the time to strike because we're weak and disorganized, or informal regional press-gangs beholden to factions vying for power under internal dissolution.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (3p5uk)

294 CNN: Supreme Court evacuated over claims of suspected explosives

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Call me a cynic, but this is either a very clumsy attempt by "the agencies" to frame somebody, or a dud and an overreaction to something innocent.

Posted by: runner at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (w45mR)

295 Back rent, court costs, GTFO.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
Good. A car mechanic I know, suffered through a year without rent being paid by his tenant, in Seattle. He told me, jeesh, just trying to be middle class for my family, and this guy fxcked me.

Posted by: MikeM at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (jbRB1)

296 Joe's got Stealer's Remorse.
Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (vOGqy)

Joe's being blackmailed.

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (ONvIw)

297 287 It's time to end it. Women belong in the Selective Service if they're going to be equal and have the vote.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Meh. Entirely moot until we have a draft.

Do you honestly think there will ever be a draft executed in your lifetime? I dont'.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (1t5dY)

Depends on how the next civil war goes, I suppose...

Posted by: Inogame at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (53oGX)

298 @285 As a retired Sergeant First Class, I can tell you that is true.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (mIJ9W)

299 I'd also like $20M in gold bouillon, a Bugatti, yacht and my own golf course with bikini models washing my balls on each fairway.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (wAnMi)

You sweat that much playing golf?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (phdxB)
***

Dude...no way they using one of those ball washers on me!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (axyOa)

300 What's the point?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 10:45 AM (rZA2o)

Plausible deniability.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (Q9lwr)

301 I've heard lots of stories from vets here about women who enlist, decide they don't like it and get knocked up as fast as they can. Somehow I think that would be endemic if we had a draft.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (2JVJo)

Planned Parenthood hardest hit. And, the white population might start picking up again.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (wAnMi)

302 Subs...shudders. And I was born in Groton!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (axyOa)

I was stationed there!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM (Y5qcH)

Hubs was across the way working at the Coast Guard Academy.

Posted by: Jordan61, I am the 10% at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (Ez6QX)

303 The Left seems like a chess player who plans out the 30 to 40 moves then is completely unable to switch gears when their opponent does not make the "correct" move two moves in.

They don't respond or react to reality. They don't change course if Reality conflicts with their plans. And there are no consequences for them if their plans end in catastrophe.

Kathleen Kennedy tanks a multi-billion dollar movie franchise and is given tens of millions of dollars a year as a reward.

Gillette sees a 8 billion dollar stock hit for a commercial insulting most of their customers and no one is fired.

The NFL goes BLM and sees their ratings tank and no one is fired.

If there are no bad consequences to wrecking something, why not wreck things?

Posted by: JB1000 at August 19, 2021 10:50 AM (G3a/U)

304 And just like that...woke winked out.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 19, 2021 10:50 AM (RlSZN)

305 Planned Parenthood hardest hit. And, the white population might start picking up again.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (wAnMi)

One way to increase the birthrate

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:50 AM (ONvIw)

306 I'm for dumping their asses into combat. Women have played an outsized role in the destruction of the West. Welfare states don't exist because of single fatherhood. They deserve a taste of genuine equality. And if we are going to indulge absurdities like LGBTQ nonsense in the military, goals of fighting climate change and white supremacy in the armed forces etc., then women in combat isn't any more absurd.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 19, 2021 10:51 AM (QU5/8)

307 292 Tom Nichols the expert guy seems a bit of an idiot for an expert.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (cSyAR)

and Obese... don't forget obese

Posted by: Inogame at August 19, 2021 10:51 AM (53oGX)

308 I admit when I first saw this site dump on Tom Nichols, I thought he was like those other Bush-era neocons who wrote a book in the early 2000s and has been coasting on that ever since.

I had no idea he was continuing to write articles, especially that of the Kevin-Williamson & Ta'hanesi Coates endorsed Atlantic. That makes him far more of an odious gremlin than I could have thought possible.

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at August 19, 2021 10:51 AM (HK8/E)

309 282 Jonah Goldberg and Tom Nichols agree; it's your fault.

If only we'd classified a hot dog as a salad.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (U7wke)

Gotta stir up the "racisssss" pot some more

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 10:51 AM (ONvIw)

310 If there are no bad consequences to wrecking something, why not wreck things?
Posted by: JB1000 at August 19, 2021 10:50 AM (G3a/U)

Well they're subversives. This is all they know how to do.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 10:51 AM (z5Vrg)

311 Call me a cynic, but this is either a very clumsy attempt by "the agencies" to frame somebody, or a dud and an overreaction to something innocent.
Posted by: runner at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (w45mR)

Some of them wite supremacissts...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 19, 2021 10:51 AM (I2VcN)

312 Let me see if I understand correctly.
Nichols and Goldberg loudly endorsed Biden. But now that he's proven to be senile and incompetent it's the fault of other people.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 10:51 AM (cSyAR)

313
Tom Nichols the expert guy seems a bit of an idiot for an expert.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (cSyAR)

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He's an expert in sniffing out sinecures like a truffle pig. He's an expert in sucking down canapes like a human shaft-spillway. And if he's like the rest of his compatriots in the Conservative Media Ecosystem™, then he's an expert on the exact texture of a pubescent boy's haunches.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 10:52 AM (rZA2o)

314 Yeah, no one is going to join up to go fight the ChiComs over Taiwan.

The GWOT was probably the last gasp of the American Military and Empire although it will dead cat bounce it's way towards eventual oblivion, and more disastrous conflicts, make no mistake, it's dead and it was killed in of all places, The Grave Yard of Empires, by a Meat Puppet installed by a Junta composed of people not even good enough to be called mediocre.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 19, 2021 10:52 AM (GOGEo)

315 I've heard lots of stories from vets here about women who enlist, decide they don't like it and get knocked up as fast as they can. Somehow I think that would be endemic if we had a draft.

Really simple solution. Require/force them to get a contraceptive implant when they enlist.

And don't give me that 'my body my choice' crap. That no longer exists. The government can do whatever they want to your body now.

Posted by: vyx at August 19, 2021 10:52 AM (8DRUP)

316 I'm for dumping their asses into combat.

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The problem is it includes our daughters who should not be drafted at all. These people are insane.

Posted by: SH (Non-Expert) at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (sX1BW)

317 Subs...shudders. And I was born in Groton!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021

***
Eighteen-year-old Wolfus had concluded that a sub, at least a nuclear vessel, were the closest thing the military had to a starship. Think about it: a vessel enclosed away from a life-killing environment (the deep ocean), cruising for long periods with plenty of supplies, using equipment (sonar and periscope) to obtain data about what surrounded us . . . very Star Trek-like, I thought.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (/XOcP)

318 Ugh, time to go to work. And short staffed because one of the transcriptionists needs "time to do some things around the house," so my hours are screwed up.

I don't want to wish my life away, but I cannot wait for this year to be over.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (2JVJo)

319 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (arJlL)

320 Hahahahaha!

@JRubinBlogger

at @DeptofDefense briefing : British paratroopers going out into Kabul to get their people. Why aren't we? DOD isn't authorized. WH needs to give that authorization and give enough troops to do that. WTF are we waiting for?

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (cF8AT)

321 Subs...shudders. And I was born in Groton!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:47 AM (axyOa)

I was stationed there!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 10:48 AM

The natural habitat of the famed Grotopotomus.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (a3Q+t)

322 Let me see if I understand correctly.
Nichols and Goldberg loudly endorsed Biden. But now that he's proven to be senile and incompetent it's the fault of other people.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 10:51 AM (cSyAR)
++++
Yes. If the other people hadn't had the temerity to support a very bad person like Trump, then they could have endorsed a Romney type instead of Porridge Brain.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (3p5uk)

323 298 @285 As a retired Sergeant First Class, I can tell you that is true.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at August 19, 2021 10:49 AM (mIJ9W)

Its been going on for some time. I was a company commander in the 80's and I had three women come into the company right out of their Advanced Training, all pregnant and all pregnant by the same instructor at the school.
Gawd...that guy got canned of course, but I had to carry those women on my books util they got out. Which meant I couldn't get more assigned becasue they filled the slots. The result was the non-pregnant ones and the guys had to carry the load.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:54 AM (axyOa)

324 Oh, I just remembered - were any of you on the late-night threads? Muad'dib left a cryptic message that he "needed" us, but I never saw a follow up. I hope he's OK.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:54 AM (2JVJo)

325 The Honor of America

I hate to say it, truly. But.The Country is being run as an ATM to the Mil/Industrial complex and deep state grifters. That's no honorable.

Everybody knows it at this point. Everybody. The cover story for the ATM being hit up for 20 fckuing years is "we're nation building". Its not incompetence, its graft. The most malignant criminal enterprise so far.

Posted by: Once Proud country reduced to cleptocracy at August 19, 2021 10:54 AM (zJZoC)

326 "There is no rational argument that can be made absolving the United States military from responsibility for the ongoing outrage."

Period.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at August 19, 2021 10:54 AM (MkuC5)

327 If women truly want to be treated as equals, they need to accept the same responsibility and risk as men.

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 10:35 AM

I like the cut of your jib. Might you have a newsletter one might subscribe to?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:55 AM (Zz0t1)

328 Oh, I just remembered - were any of you on the late-night threads? Muad'dib left a cryptic message that he "needed" us, but I never saw a follow up. I hope he's OK.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Mebbe the horse with the stamp on its ass ran away !

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2021 10:55 AM (arJlL)

329 "Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America. "

Goldstein's agents are everywhere, comrade. Always be vigilant!

Posted by: Ripley at August 19, 2021 10:55 AM (MxEKc)

330 Ahoy! Remember me?

Posted by: Cap'n Kristol at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (a3Q+t)

331 We won in Afghanistan in 2 months. We pissed victory away after that by letting the perverse State Department run the d----d place.

Posted by: aelfheld at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (Zy9Yy)

332 I was a company commander in the 80's and I had three women come into the company right out of their Advanced Training, all pregnant and all pregnant by the same instructor at the school.
Gawd...that guy got canned of course,

-------------

Maverick? What a stud. Those are the guys that win wars.

Posted by: SH (Non-Expert) at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (sX1BW)

333 Joe's ridiculous position that "he knew" there would be chaos goes into the overcompensation category. He's aware enough to be aware that he's lost many of his already low-quality marbles, and is super-sensitive to calling his acumen and work ethic into question.

So, diminished-capacity dunce that he is, he leaps to the position ("yeah I knew that would happen") that makes his personal capacity look the best, ignoring the inherently evil, if not criminal nature of such a position.

And as to work ethic, I truly believe this is a significant part of the leadership vacuum. When you work a few, half-days a week there's simply no opportunity for even capable subordinates to hash out their case "to the Chief Executive" and so I think there's a huge amount of simple deferring and drift going on, apart from the truly awful substance of whatever thought Joe is capable of contributing.

I believe Joe will claim a "heart condition" in the next month and retire from office. Not saying Pres Harris is an improvement. But I don't get a vote on that. Hell I don't think I even had a vote in November.

Posted by: Zek at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (dEaub)

334 248...Insty is a joke of a site. .
...
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:42 AM (2JVJo)

I took insty off my shortcuts list back in November.
Driscoll is a bad joke.

Posted by: Flyover at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (Rbu5d)

335 CBD -

What's a haggababbadarda or whatever it is ?

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (arJlL)

336 32 "... and not even a chance of being sent to A-stan."

Don't bet on it. Taliban decide to keep a couple thou Americans for bargaining power, and Biden has to look tough finally, and up goes the balloon.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 19, 2021 10:57 AM (IAPGA)

337 DailyWire:
Author Of "How To Be A Socialist" Allegedly Fires Magazine Staff For Asserting That Workers Should Be In Charge

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:57 AM (RHGPo)

338
What's a haggababbadarda or whatever it is ?
Posted by: JT at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (arJlL)

You asked for it......

https://youtu.be/1OrNS2zbTZg

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 10:57 AM (Zz0t1)

339 Anyway, like I was sayin', prawn is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, prawn-kabobs, prawn creole, prawn gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple prawn, lemon prawn, coconut prawn, pepper prawn, prawn soup, prawn stew, prawn salad, prawn and potatoes, prawn burger, prawn sandwich. That- that's about it.

Oh, you said pawn! Nevermind.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 19, 2021 10:57 AM (JTpIQ)

340 Eighteen-year-old Wolfus had concluded that a sub, at least a nuclear vessel, were the closest thing the military had to a starship. Think about it: a vessel enclosed away from a life-killing environment (the deep ocean), cruising for long periods with plenty of supplies, using equipment (sonar and periscope) to obtain data about what surrounded us . . . very Star Trek-like, I thought.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (/XOcP)
***

Damn. I am very glad I didn't think of that of I'd of done the same!
I figured subs were already doing the work of the enemy as they were already half sunk.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (axyOa)

341 337 DailyWire:
Author Of "How To Be A Socialist" Allegedly Fires Magazine Staff For Asserting That Workers Should Be In Charge
Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2021 10:57 AM (RHGPo)

=========

That would make a good SNL skit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (LvTSG)

342
I've heard lots of stories from vets here about women who enlist, decide they don't like it and get knocked up as fast as they can. Somehow I think that would be endemic if we had a draft.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2021 10:46 AM (2JVJo)

Along the same lines, years ago my company hired a sales assistant who had faked PTSD due to being separated from her daughter, all to get out of her overseas deployment around 2006 or so. She was deployed to Kuwait, never set foot in Iraq, and her husband was raising her daughter while she was deployed.

She was quite open about telling everyone this whole story, including management. My reaction was to tell the senior partner that he was nuts to hire her, that she'd cause no end of trouble for the company. Sure enough, she lasted about 3 months, quit on her own accord, and then sued to get unemployment.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (n+4am)

343 Eighteen-year-old Wolfus had concluded that a sub, at least a nuclear vessel, were the closest thing the military had to a starship. Think about it: a vessel enclosed away from a life-killing environment (the deep ocean), cruising for long periods with plenty of supplies, using equipment (sonar and periscope) to obtain data about what surrounded us . . . very Star Trek-like, I thought.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (/XOcP)

Try sitting on the bottom for months in a boomer.

Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (AwYPR)

344
What's a haggababbadarda or whatever it is ?
Posted by: JT at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (arJlL)

It's the story of Exodus broken up, and interspersed with prayers, in a format suitable for recounting it on pace with the traditional ritual Passover meal.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (rZA2o)

345
When the Marine Corps ran short of Corpsmen. . . . .
Posted by: Tonypete

The Marines *never* run short of Corpsman.
They took have my cohort Mar '72.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (EfNTU)

346 171 I *SO* dodged that bullet last year. Tenants trashed place and left just before the lockdown. If they'd have stayed one more month they'd have been living free. No idea what I would have done short of foreclosure.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 10:29 AM (wAnMi)

I have some ideas...

Posted by: Milton Waddams at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (DTX3h)

347 Posted by: Zek at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (dEaub)

If you know an outcome is likely, you plan and prepare for that outcome.

However this senile fuck wants to spin it, he looks like the dumbass he is.

He knew there'd be chaos but did nothing to quell it or he's lying. Which door is it, Pres. Stolin?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (KbCG3)

348 >>I believe Joe will claim a "heart condition" in the next month and retire from office.
Posted by: Zek at August 19, 2021 10:56 AM (dEaub)

Dr. Jill is not done with the White House just yet. He'll be done when she tells him he's done.

Posted by: ZOD at August 19, 2021 10:59 AM (xK9An)

349 You know, I'd be totally up for drafting any age. Retired people don't need to have a gun

Posted by: clutch cargo

Retired/old people would cut fence and sort shit out toot sweet. We are already cranky & pissed off. Can't sleep all morning because we gotta get up to pee.

Granted , our RoE would be brutal, but shit would end quick and decisively.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2021 10:59 AM (2w7OO)

350 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 10:43 AM (3p5uk)

On a scale from one to infinity these people are the most racist people on planet earth.

Bar-fucking-none

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 19, 2021 10:59 AM (4qhiJ)

351 Your tax dollars at work:

NEW -- A man in a pickup truck in front of the Library of Congress claims to have an explosive device in his vehicle. Unconfirmed photo of the person and the truck.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1428382764622024704

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 10:59 AM (UHVv4)

352 My MiL just passed. Had a long and blessed life (97 y.o.). My husband is exhausted and coming home tomorrow. He arranged for Emory Medical School to pick her up, as she (like his father) donated her body to the school.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 19, 2021 11:00 AM (ptqGC)

353
A man in a pickup truck in front of the Library of Congress claims to have an explosive device in his vehicle.

-------

F'n late fees, man.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 11:00 AM (rZA2o)

354 Don't bet on it. Taliban decide to keep a couple thou Americans for bargaining power, and Biden has to look tough finally, and up goes the balloon.

Just ask "what would China want?" That dictates Xiden's actions.

Not sure China wants Xiden to do anything if our people are held hostage or beheaded on YouTube.

But he can blame Trump.

Posted by: vyx at August 19, 2021 11:00 AM (XHrkn)

355 You asked for it......

Uh-oh

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2021 11:00 AM (arJlL)

356 Condolences and prayers, Jane

Posted by: vmom sic semper stabbicus (oEn12) at August 19, 2021 11:00 AM (zy2G0)

357 How does a woman pick a man just for preggers?

Hey you. Yeah you. Come here.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (RlSZN)

358 343 Eighteen-year-old Wolfus had concluded that a sub, at least a nuclear vessel, were the closest thing the military had to a starship. Think about it: a vessel enclosed away from a life-killing environment (the deep ocean), cruising for long periods with plenty of supplies, using equipment (sonar and periscope) to obtain data about what surrounded us . . . very Star Trek-like, I thought.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (/XOcP)

Try sitting on the bottom for months in a boomer.
Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (AwYPR)

google tells me that boomer = a nuclear submarine armed with ballistic missiles

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (6dJKT)

359
Maybe it's Obama, looking to finish the job, and *physically* destroy the Constitution.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (rZA2o)

360 I very naively thought that once the service academies opened to women that inclusion in the draft would happen. On the other hand opponents were yelling did we want to see our daughters in VA hospitals too, which angered me because I had both a son and a daughter--it rubbed me the wrong way that I would accept the sacrifice of one over the other. And then women did enter more jobs in the military and I've seen the get out pregnancy method of getting out become common. At this point I'm so tired of "feminism" that it seems time to ban women from most jobs in the military again--and I'm an 'ette.

Posted by: Lirio100 at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (uFOGo)

361 I'm sure the populations of black and Latinos that are unvaccinated cling to MSNBC news shows.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (oWBc3)

362 How many of us were submariners?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (UuD2k)

363 My MiL just passed. Had a long and blessed life (97 y.o.). My husband is exhausted and coming home tomorrow. He arranged for Emory Medical School to pick her up, as she (like his father) donated her body to the school.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh

Deepest condolences Jane. For you and your family.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (2w7OO)

364
NEW -- A man in a pickup truck in front of the Library of Congress claims to have an explosive device in his vehicle. Unconfirmed photo of the person and the truck.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1428382764622024704
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 10:59 AM (UHVv4)

DOLLAH BILLS Y'ALL!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

365
Retired/old people would cut fence and sort shit out toot sweet. We are already cranky & pissed off. Can't sleep all morning because we gotta get up to pee.

Granted , our RoE would be brutal, but shit would end quick and decisively.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2021 10:59 AM (2w7OO)

Fukkin A. Shoot 'em all and let G_d sort it out.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (AiZBA)

366 Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 19, 2021 11:00 AM (ptqGC)

Prayers for you and Family

Posted by: It's me donna at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (I2VcN)

367 Your tax dollars at work:

NEW -- A man in a pickup truck in front of the Library of Congress claims to have an explosive device in his vehicle. Unconfirmed photo of the person and the truck.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1428382764622024704
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 10:59 AM (UHVv4)

Need sunglasses to cut down on the glow glare.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (wAnMi)

368

Deepest condolences Jane. For you and your family.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (2w7OO)

This. 1000x this.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

369 I would also bet my left nut that the WH has already been negotiating how many Billions it will pay for "safe passage" of the remaining Americans. And of course we will pay. And the Taliban will deliver half-way, fuck us, then up the asking price, etc etc.

Posted by: Zek at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (dEaub)

370 Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!

Prayers up for you, your hubs, and she.

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (arJlL)

371 NEW -- A man in a pickup truck in front of the Library of Congress claims to have an explosive device in his vehicle. Unconfirmed photo of the person and the truck.

Wearing his MAGA hat I presume

Posted by: It's me donna at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (I2VcN)

372 In addition to ignoring the fact Joe Biden is a corrupt lifelong mediocrity who's never shown a grain of competence or intelligence , the neverTrumpers ignored the reality that Trump is good at dealing with enemies of the United States.

That was a run-on sentence.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (cSyAR)

373 And a truck on fire now on the Golden Gate Bridge:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1428384744694235138

Police suspect disgruntled Irish immigrant claiming he'd just bought the bridge and could do as he pleased.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (UHVv4)

374 Eighteen-year-old Wolfus had concluded that a sub, at least a nuclear vessel, were the closest thing the military had to a starship. Think about it: a vessel enclosed away from a life-killing environment (the deep ocean), cruising for long periods with plenty of supplies, using equipment (sonar and periscope) to obtain data about what surrounded us . . . very Star Trek-like, I thought.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:53 AM (/XOcP)

Try sitting on the bottom for months in a boomer.
Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (AwYPR)

Ha! See???
See my comment at 340!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (axyOa)

375 Sending condolences, Jane for you and your husband.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2021 11:03 AM (NpAcC)

376 Condolences Jane.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 19, 2021 11:03 AM (Jxqr2)

377 >>And then women did enter more jobs in the military Posted by: Lirio100 at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (uFOGo)

29th Heavy Angry Black Women Cavalry Division is a real thing.

Posted by: ZOD at August 19, 2021 11:03 AM (xK9An)

378 My MiL just passed. Had a long and blessed life (97 y.o.). My husband is exhausted and coming home tomorrow. He arranged for Emory Medical School to pick her up, as she (like his father) donated her body to the school.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh

So sorry, my condolences to you and the mister. But what a great, long life. Glad you got to have a nice conversation with her last week. Prayers up.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 11:03 AM (wAnMi)

379 Condolences Jane D'Oh.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 11:03 AM (cSyAR)

380 Try sitting on the bottom for months in a boomer.
Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (AwYPR)

What do you have against OU fans?

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 19, 2021 11:03 AM (yrol0)

381 We should have water fountains for the unvaccinated.

Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (mhQH9)

382 373 And a truck on fire now on the Golden Gate Bridge:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1428384744694235138

Police suspect disgruntled Irish immigrant claiming he'd just bought the bridge and could do as he pleased.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (UHVv4)

ha

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (6dJKT)

383 Hitting my knees Jane.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (axyOa)

384
What do you have against OU fans?
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 19, 2021 11:03 AM (yrol0)

Can't stand OU......Boomer Sooner is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

385 Exactly. Heinlein during his lifetime said that the novel states more than once that *any* civil service post would qualify you to vote once you get out, but I've scanned that book carefully, and I don't see any such detail. It's mostly about the military. He does make clear, I think, that you can't vote until you are honorably discharged.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 10:41 AM (/XOcP)

Federal service. Military or something tedious, and possibly dangerous, so that you appreciate what you've done.

Doctors, lawyers, etc. weren't federal service. Civilians could be hired for those things. Presumably the Navy had some doctors about their ships.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (U7wke)

386 Bood.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (3TihK)

387 "There is nothing in the pickup that resembles an explosive device." Evidently LEO took the word of a reporter who may have talked to the driver. They can't even do false flags anymore.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (oWBc3)

388 Nood too.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (3TihK)

389 Husband's sister the life coach is still in the Galapagos Islands.

She knew her mother was nearing the end and took the trip anyway. Oh, well.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (ptqGC)

390 Blame W?

Our military is truly broken if this ex-military officer never learned how accountability works in the service:

The officer in charge at the time of whatever disaster occurs is the one responsible, not someone 20 years prior. Because that officer is in charge and required to make policy and anticipate anything that must dealt with. If he or she fails to do so, tough shit. He or she is still responsible.

Fucking pathetic trying to blame a president from 20 fucking years ago.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 19, 2021 11:05 AM (/6dlA)

391 386 Bood.
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 19, 2021 11:04 AM (3TihK)

nood ace

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 11:05 AM (6dJKT)

392 So some old guy's pickup ran out of gas and, while he was off getting a gas can, some excitable Karen saw a "TNT" fireworks box in the bed and realized it was really a bomb?

Posted by: Mrm88 at August 19, 2021 11:05 AM (jIL4c)

393 * snap * * hiss * * crackle *

Now hear this, now hear this.

This bein' a Smart Military Blog 'n all, y'all need to inculcate this: There are only two kinds of ships.m

Submarines and targets.

That is all.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2021 11:05 AM (a3Q+t)

394 Condolences to you and your husband, Jane.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 11:05 AM (y7DUB)

395 glivbop snikstub foopwag nukkop

Posted by: Kurt at August 19, 2021 11:06 AM (eyCNB)

396 Police suspect disgruntled Irish immigrant claiming he'd just bought the bridge and could do as he pleased.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 11:02 AM (UHVv4)

That's the Bay Bridge, West bound into SF. From Oakland. Sooo...

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 11:06 AM (wAnMi)

397 'The military is broken'

I knew this for myself as lower enlisted E-4 when Shinseki had us all start to wear previous ranger color black berets instead of patrol caps as some kind of ideological push. This one small stupid action for me told me:
1.) Changing a hat apparently makes a statement to people in charge... despite the implications.
2.) Implication one: we all now can wear a hard earned beret we ALL KNEW was hard earned. And me, I wore it for nothing other than being regular Army, no special schools outside of previous mobile signal unit. I was ashamed to be required to don it.
3.) Top brass really don't have a fucking clue anymore. The fact a Marine General is worried about faggot relations shows me we are already too far gone.

Posted by: Schlippy at August 19, 2021 11:07 AM (RMlYr)

398 Condolences, Jane.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 19, 2021 11:07 AM (zc1AC)

399 In the houses of Parliament
Everybody's talking about the President
We all pitch in for a bag of cement

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan
-preston/2021/08/19/british-parliament-holds-joe
-biden-in-contempt-for-afghanistan
-catastrophe-n1470917

Posted by: zmdavid at August 19, 2021 11:08 AM (xqRaG)

400 My MiL just passed. Had a long and blessed life (97 y.o.). My husband is exhausted and coming home tomorrow. He arranged for Emory Medical School to pick her up, as she (like his father) donated her body to the school.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh

Jane - My sincerest condolences on your loss of your MiL.

Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord. And let perpetual light shine upon her. May she rest in peace.

May her soul and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.
Amen.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2021 11:08 AM (N39Ws)

401 Condolences to you and your family, Jane.

Posted by: CN at August 19, 2021 11:10 AM (ONvIw)

402 Jonah: tell me more. Specifically what about each parties bases you despair about.

Drive that readership even lower.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 19, 2021 11:11 AM (cZgxg)

403 My MiL just passed. Had a long and blessed life (97 y.o.). My husband is exhausted and coming home tomorrow. He arranged for Emory Medical School to pick her up, as she (like his father) donated her body to the school.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 19, 2021 11:00 AM

Prayers and condolences, Jane. May her memory be eternal.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2021 11:12 AM (m+jkK)

404 Yeah, I'm not Lt. Dan, but my family has fought and served this country from the Revolution, Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam. I was an O-4 in the Navy during the Cold War. I became very disillusioned by, what I saw as politics playing into promotions and assignments and got out. My superiors were not looking for leaders, but yes men who looked to their own advancement rather to the people they were responsible for.

Posted by: Archer at August 19, 2021 11:12 AM (gmo/4)

405 If only we could have the ghost of Patton and Puller on tap. And when these pieces of shit in the miltary such as Miller and Shinseki et al make these shit force-breaking decisions, they should instantly be court-martialed to the rank of E-1. There is a mechanism for this, but it requires our commander in chief to have balls.

Posted by: Schlippy at August 19, 2021 11:13 AM (RMlYr)

406 Try sitting on the bottom for months in a boomer.
Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2021 10:58 AM (AwYPR)

google tells me that boomer = a nuclear submarine armed with ballistic missiles
Posted by: m at August 19, 2021

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Never said it was a foolproof plan

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 11:13 AM (/XOcP)

407 Yeah, I'm not Lt. Dan, but my family has fought and served this country from the Revolution, Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam. I was an O-4 in the Navy during the Cold War. I became very disillusioned by, what I saw as politics playing into promotions and assignments and got out. My superiors were not looking for leaders, but yes men who looked to their own advancement rather to the people they were responsible for.
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Thank you for your service, and your family's service.

Posted by: simplemind at August 19, 2021 11:13 AM (iVLo9)

408 Now that we know Trump was setting a booby trap for Biden in Afghanistan, start pulling that thread. If you were out to sabotage Biden, think of every step, every move you'd make, and then understand that's what Trump did. Trump, Pompeo, Putin are enemies of America.

So all the Abraham Accord deals in the Middle East... those were booby traps to sabotage Biden as well?

These fucking people. The buck always stops with their political enemies. There is absolutely NOTHING for which they will hold Democrats accountable.

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at August 19, 2021 11:18 AM (Do5/p)

409 Thanks, clutch cargo. Fingers typed famous bridge and not identified bridge!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 11:18 AM (UHVv4)

410 >395 Kurt

Let's stipulate to all you say.

Under Trump we were energy indepemdent and wouldnt need oil.

Then we can truly abandon it (after getting US citizens out.)
Right?

Posted by: Schlippy at August 19, 2021 11:22 AM (RMlYr)

411 "That essay on Insty is spot on, but totally irrelevant, because that general isn't willing to sign his fucking name to it. Frankly, he's a coward, hiding behind Insty's skirts."

The rot goes deeper. Standards of honor and integrity have slipped across the board. Even here there are Men Without Chests and of low character posed as virtuous. Instapundit itself platforms treacherous NeverTrumpers, rewarding betrayal (which ensures we'll get more betrayal)

The likes of David French, Jonah Goldberg and Allahpundit? They're not outliers, they are leading indicators.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 19, 2021 11:27 AM (49Exr)

412 352 My MiL just passed. Had a long and blessed life (97 y.o.). My husband is exhausted and coming home tomorrow. He arranged for Emory Medical School to pick her up, as she (like his father) donated her body to the school.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 19, 2021 11:00 AM (ptqGC)

Prayers Jane. 97...That's quite a run.

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 11:31 AM (cF8AT)

413 In addition to the main point of this article, that our politicians and military leadership have degraded our armed forces by becoming too political I would add that the recent round of an emphasis on critical race theory and white supremacy is changing its primary mission of protecting the United States from external enemies to pointing it directly at the very people it is supposed to protect. Effectively, the military would no longer serve the United States people but the political ends of the politicians that are ostensibly supposed to be controlling it. One of the hallmarks of the United States military is it it's unthinkable that a US soldier would take up arms against its citizens and hunt them down and kill them. The propaganda from the current political and military leadership that one half of the population are racial terrorists certainly seems designed to not only make that thinkable but that they may actually do it.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 19, 2021 11:35 AM (pLXk7)

414 If they keep hostages we give them 24 hour notice that their favorite provincial capital is going away. Then we make it a glass parking lot.

Then we tell them that another one is gonna go in 24 hours, but this time the lucky winner will remain a secret.

And we remind them the Brits have nukes too, but no Democrats.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 19, 2021 11:37 AM (IAPGA)

415 How many of us were submariners?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 11:01 AM (UuD2k)

never was going to happen. i remember the recruiting chief asking about interest in subs. he got depressed when i said there was no way i was getting on a boat designed to sink....

besides i like fresh air and sun too much, which is how i ended up a hull snipe... -_-

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 11:41 AM (8D42x)

416 Prayers Jane. 97...That's quite a run.
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 11:31 AM (cF8AT)

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Condolences. The passing of loved ones can be exhausting. Part of the purpose of death I am coming to believe is not to break our hearts but to remind us of how precious life is and the relationships we are allowed to enjoy because of life. Carry on carry on.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 19, 2021 11:44 AM (pLXk7)

417 I've been wondering how long it would take for people to realize that, as a senator, Biden had an intimate, front row seat for the US withdrawal from Vietnam so the idea he had no ideas or inclinations about how it could go is simply not credible. If Biden is still as sharp as Democrats insist, it's obvious, given his experience, that he allowed this to happen the way it did so that the Taliban could sell our military tech to Biden's benefactors in China and Russia.

Posted by: MLCross at August 19, 2021 11:45 AM (K8Z2z)

418 >>> So some old guy's pickup ran out of gas and, while he was off getting a gas can, some excitable Karen saw a "TNT" fireworks box in the bed and realized it was really a bomb?

Posted by: Mrm88 at August 19, 2021 11:05 AM (jIL4c)

Insty says the truck guy is doing some live on facebook now.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 19, 2021 12:00 PM (zH+TV)

419
CBD.. from a large family of vets . You echo the feelings of many of us. Thanks. Well written.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at August 19, 2021 12:01 PM (6PxuI)

420 My MiL just passed.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Imp

Prayers for all your family.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 19, 2021 12:11 PM (EfNTU)

421 Recall Not Vietnam, It's shatter bodies and broken minds, It's Youth sent home in boxes,
Mocked, belittle and shunned, The survivors said,
Won't be fooled again.

But, here we are.
Again.

Say it with me, Recall not Vietnam.

Posted by: obsidian at August 19, 2021 01:15 PM (lmxyT)

422 We need desperately to return to "Duty, Honor, Country"

Posted by: Sergeant Major at August 19, 2021 07:10 PM (bpoha)

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