Sunday Morning Book Thread 07-25-2021

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St. Johnsbury Athenaeum, St. Johnsbury, VT

Well, dash my wigs, it's time for another book thread!

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which boldly go where no man has gone before.



Pic Note:

Founded in 1871, the Athenæum consists of an art museum and a library:

The library’s book collection, originally consisting of 8,000 finely bound volumes selected with the advice of the noted bibliographer W.F. Poole, has been expanded to include nearly 45,000 volumes. In addition to physical books, the library has magazines, newspapers, DVD movies, CD audio books, e-books and and audio books online, a complete set of the local newspaper on microfilm, pamphlets and paperbacks.

Citing its remarkable architecture, well-preserved gallery of American paintings, and Poole’s original book collection, the United States Department of the Interior designated the St. Johnsbury Athenæum a National Historic Landmark in 1996. The Athenæum is one of the few libraries in the nation with this prestigious status.

(h/t to the lurking moron who sent me this)



It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

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(Accurate description of the comment section of pretty much any sites(except for this one, which is a classy joint)).



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Félix Armand Heullant - Contemplation



A Wee Bit of Nostalgia

I started rereading All Creatures Great and Small by James Herriot because Mrs. Muse and I are watching the first season of the new adaptation that came out last year. When I first heard about it, I knew I would not be interesting to find out that the Yorkshire of the 1930s was filled with semi-closeted homos, shrieking feminists, feral animal-rights activists, and rat bastard commie union thugs. But one of my Twitter peeps said no, it's not at all larded up with 'woke', give it a try, it's actually quite good, and he was right. It's actually a bit enhanced a bit (gain of function?) from the books, i.e. more time is spent fleshing out the secondary characters, and it mostly works. The writers are careful to keep everything well within the spirit of the original story instead of injecting glaringly incongruous characters and plot element, and we're happy with it after seeing 6 episodes.

But I haven't read the books in 20 years, and of course they are a delight, and it's been fun revisiting the 'Herriotverse', if you could call it that. I could hear the Yorkshire accents of the farmers just by how he spelled out the words on the page. And it's gread bedtime reading because the chapter are short, maybe 5-10 pages at most, so there are many natural stopping points if you get too sleepy. The trouble is, they're like potato chips, i.e. hard to stop eating once you've started, so for the past few nights, I've stayed up later than I wanted. Fortunately, Mrs. Muse is a sound sleeper and I can leave the light on.



Who Dis:
(this one is going to be tough)

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(Last week's 'who dis' was Dame Judi Dench, in her younger days, before she was a 'Dame'. Well, she was always a dame, but not a 'Dame' dame.)



Moron Recommendations

124 I've been reading Standing Before Hell's Gate by moron author William Alan Webb. I really enjoy this series. Set in what's left of America, some 50 years after the collapse. Leftover Americans, resurrected Americans, bands of terrorists and bandits, Native Americans, Chinese invaders, Muslims--all competing for scare resources and control of populations.

These are entertaining reads, and I can usually finish a couple of chapters before bed.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2021 08:39 AM (OX9vb)

Standing Before Hell's Gate is book 4 of Webb's 'Last Brigade' Series, book 1 of which is Standing the Final Watch. Both are available for $4.99. Or you can take the plunge and buy the entire 5-book series for $24.95.

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201 In addition to "The Typewriter Revolution", Richard Polt has edited several books of short stories on the use and value of manual typewriters. Each book has a theme, horror/suspense, post-technical world, etc. Each story is shown in the machine's typeface the writer used which, for me, makes the reading easier. And the writing is excellent. Varied but creative and well written. I've been hopping through the books and reading stories as the title appeals.

I'm not usually a fan of short fiction (essays are another matter) but these have been wonderful.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2021 09:15 AM (7EjX1)

Searching through Polt's books on Amazon, he's also written quite a lot about the philosophy of Martin Heidegger. He also seems to be fascinated with the writer Harry Stephen Keeler, whom he refers to as "America's comic Kafka" and several of his books are collections of the newsletters of the Harry Stephen Keeler society, which, I suppose, he founded.

But of the books JTB mentioned, here's one, Dead Keys: Typewritten Tales of Terror and it's available in paperback only. It's Book 4 of the 'Cold Hard Type' series. Looking through the Amazon sample of this collection of horror stories, it's fun to see the vintage typeface and a pleasure to read.

If you are curious about the author Harry Stephen Keeler, there are a number of his novels available on Kindle for $2.99, among them (ahem) The Ace of Spades Murder, which is book 2 of Keeler's 'Screwball Circus' mysteries, The Man with the Magic Eardrums and
The Case of the Two Strange Ladies.

Even without the typewriter fanboi-ism, Polt seems like a quirky and eccentric fellow.

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From the Friday rant thread:

182 One interesting book that investigates the nature of mankind uses copious references to classics in literature and its characters crossed with Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress and doggerel/poetry/singing.

That book is John Myers Myers' Silverlock. Classic book and easy read if you skim. However, to get all the literature references, you will have to read a lot of canonical literature (or at least a summary of them.)

Posted by: whig at July 23, 2021 10:51 AM (pO7gM)

Silverlock was first published in 1949, and is still in print. The Silverlock wiki page has a concise plot description:

While on a sea voyage, a ship named Naglfar founders. One anhedonic passenger, A. Clarence Shandon (M.B.A., Wisconsin), is washed ashore in a fictional land known as "The Commonwealth of Letters". He is befriended by Golias, who nicknames him "Silverlock" and who becomes his guide. Silverlock and Golias encounter figures from history, literature and mythology.

If you're curious, the wiki page has a list of all the characters he meets, including Job, Beowulf, Robin Hood, Hamlet, Faust, Becky Sharp, and many others.

You can pick up the Kindle edition of Silverlock for the bargain basement price of $2.99. The the hardcover edition will cost you $26.00, but you might think it would be worthwhile to get the additional material that is included with it, which includes

...biographical and bibliographical material on John Myers Myers, who was also a notable historian of the American West; a sampler of his verse; and the melodies, with tablature, of song-settings of five more poems. Vastly enriching appreciation of the novel is a generous reader's guide to its characters, places, special vocabulary, and allusions.

I have never heard of this fantasy novel despite it being around longer than I have been arrived. I can see why, though. In order to really understand it, you have to be familiar with the cultural knowledge it's built on. Most people knew that stuff in years gone by, But the elites of our culture, its supposed guardians, have spent the last several decades sneering at it, pissing on it, and burning it.

I guess Silverlock is kind of like Umberto Eco's novel The Name of the Rose, which inspired the companion volume The Key To The Name of the Rose which explained all of the references and allusions on every page. And also included translations of all of the non-English passages.


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Books By Morons

Got an e-mail from a lurking moron author this week:

This is to let you know that I've re-released my military-science fiction novel "Cherry Drop" on 7/23. I'd be very grateful if you'd include it in the Books by Moron section of the Sunday Morning Book Thread. "Cherry Drop" is the first of a soon-to-be four novel series. Here's the blurb:

"In the International Space Marine Corps, every new Marine is a cherry, raw and untested. Even the officers.

Second Lieutenant Abner Fortis is as cherry as they come. The ink on his commission is barely dry when he is ordered to make his first combat drop ship insertion, or "cherry drop." The mission is a training mission on the jungle planet of Pada-Pada, where the biggest challenge is how to avoid becoming a snack for the carnivorous bugs that lurk in the underbrush. Practically a vacation by ISMC standards.

When the mission goes awry and a dark secret is exposed, Fortis and his fellow Marines are forced to fight for their very survival against a vicious foe on a hostile planet."

Not much I can add to this, which is why I just cut-and-pasted it. "Cherry Drop" is available on Amazon. $4.99 Kindle e-book, or $14.99 paperback.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.


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Comments

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1 Good morning, Bibliosexuals!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:00 AM (Dc2NZ)

2 Still no reading this week. Just not interested!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 25, 2021 08:00 AM (yrol0)

3 booken morgen horden!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:02 AM (oEn12)

4 Tolle Lege!

No idea Who Dis? is, but I bet her feet are killing her.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 25, 2021 08:03 AM (PiwSw)

5 And definitely cover those nacelles, Enterprise!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:03 AM (Dc2NZ)

6 Tolle Lege
No new books this week, but a discovery
As last night mentioned seeing A Woman in Berlin, a anonymous book printed in 1950s about a German woman trying to survive Russian takeover and occupation of Berlin 1945.
Well in looking for movie found
https://youtu.be/5nHX9750dIU
The audio book on YouTube

Are there more audio books on YouTube?

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 08:03 AM (Cxk7w)

7 Currently on the second book of the Recluce series by Modesitt.

Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2021 08:04 AM (mpXpK)

8 Who dis : Madame Chiang Kai-Shek !

Posted by: runner at July 25, 2021 08:04 AM (V13WU)

9 I've been trying to read Orthodoxy by Chesterton but the dog is being very insistent that I'm supposed to hold her paw.

Posted by: Northernlurker, surgite at July 25, 2021 08:05 AM (cSyAR)

10 >>Who Dis: (this one is going to be tough)

Yukio Mishima.

Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 08:06 AM (xK9An)

11 I do want to get to Sharpe's Havoc by used book or ebook.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 08:06 AM (Cxk7w)

12 I read Eternal by Lisa Scottoline. This excellent novel is a love and family story set in Rome beginning in 1937 and continuing through the war years. It's a beautifully written tribute to the power of love.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 25, 2021 08:06 AM (kiyX4)

13 Good morning

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:06 AM (ONvIw)

14
NESFA Press had a one-volume collection of John Bellairs' adult fantasy (he is best known for the YA Lewis Barnavelt series) called "Magic Mirrors: the High Fantasy and Low Parody of John Bellairs" which I snagged at their website:

https://www.nesfa.org/press/available-books/

This has one of my favorite stories of all time, "The Face in the Frost", and an incomplete previously unpublished prequel, "The Dolphin Cross".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:07 AM (Dc2NZ)

15 THIRST!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at July 25, 2021 08:08 AM (yvLnI)

16 *we* have ewok dust

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:08 AM (oEn12)

17 Who dis : Madame Chiang Kai-Shek !

Posted by: runner at July 25, 2021 08:04 AM (V13WU)

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Joan Collins.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:08 AM (llXky)

18 Yukio Mishima.
Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 08:06 AM (xK9An)
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His sepuku ensemble and makeup were exquisite.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:08 AM (Dc2NZ)

19 Howdy Eris. We missed you yesterday.

Posted by: Muad'dib at July 25, 2021 08:09 AM (WLeoI)

20 Kristi Yamaguchi

Posted by: grammie winger at July 25, 2021 08:09 AM (45fpk)

21 "Félix Armand Heullant - Contemplation"
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Looks more like "How can I read with Grandpa here snoring away!"

Posted by: Biden's Dog at July 25, 2021 08:10 AM (yvLnI)

22 Nice Lieberry! Fatty at the table needs to hit the gym.

Those pants.....going where men have not gone before.

The Who Dis is Empress Kojun on learning that her sneaky, backstabbing people have bombed Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2021 08:10 AM (R/m4+)

23 🤣 🤣 🤣

Posted by: runner at July 25, 2021 08:10 AM (V13WU)

24 Good Sunday morning, horde!

The Herriot books were one of our family read-aloud series when I was a kid. There were five of us, and Mom read aloud to us in the evening a lot.*

We also had livestock, so could relate to a lot of the critter situations.

I think I'll put those on my re-read list. They are a delight.

*"Mom, what did you guys do before there was tv?"

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at July 25, 2021 08:10 AM (OX9vb)

25 Good morning, Hordelings! Greetings, OM!

I recently finished Elmore Leonard's book Pronto. It's the first of his works to feature Raylan Givens. The end of Pronto was adapted into the opening scene of the TV show Justified. Love Elmore Leonard.

Currently reading the 2nd book in the Fletch series from Gregory McDonald. Confess, Fletch is the title. There is a Confess, Fletch movie currently in the works. Jon Hamm will star as Fletch. Good read so far.

Posted by: Doof at July 25, 2021 08:11 AM (JNEIO)

26 I've been trying to read Orthodoxy by Chesterton but the dog is being very insistent that I'm supposed to hold her paw.

Posted by: Northernlurker, surgite at July 25, 2021 08:05 AM (cSyAR)

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I've had my own reading momentum broken up last week. Hoping to finish Stanley G. Payne's Civil War in Europe 1905-1949 this week and then I'll pick up GK again.

This is the third book I've read by Payne, who focuses on Spain but also fascism (the actual thing, not the vague term for people the left doesn't like). He tends to write clearly and not at any great length, which is nice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:11 AM (llXky)

27 Myrna Loy?

Posted by: dantesed at July 25, 2021 08:11 AM (88xKn)

28 I'm reading Christopher Hitchens' "Thomas Paine's Rights Of Man," and while the subject is fascinating, Hitchens' writing style is pompous and self absorbed.

I can only read it for a little while before it gets irritating!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2021 08:13 AM (Q9lwr)

29 Who Dis?
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Kam Fung as Chin... Hoe?

Posted by: Biden's Dog at July 25, 2021 08:14 AM (yvLnI)

30 Beautiful library at the Athenaeum

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 25, 2021 08:14 AM (NHBuF)

31 11 I do want to get to Sharpe's Havoc by used book or ebook.
Posted by: Skip

if its not at your library they can probably get it through inter
library loan

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:14 AM (oEn12)

32 TEST

Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2021 08:14 AM (mpXpK)

33 clock is an hour off

Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2021 08:15 AM (mpXpK)

34 the gown in the painting is beautifully done

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:15 AM (oEn12)

35 Except vmom I haven't been to public library since 6th grade

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 08:15 AM (Cxk7w)

36 I'm not the only moron in VT?

Posted by: Captain Ned at July 25, 2021 08:16 AM (XIfux)

37 Good morning, all - still taken up with caring for the newest addition to the family, my grandson - known as Wee Jamie. He's two months old this week, still erratically awake and hungry during the night. I take care of him during the day so that my daughter can sleep, and study for her real estate license.
But still - I am working on finishing the next Luna City installment, and I started on the third volume of stories loosely based on the Lone Ranger, only historically accurate and racked back in time to the 1840s. I hope to have the "Lone Star Blood" collection of short adventures done in time for this years' Word Wrangler book festival in Giddings, Texas, in November.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 25, 2021 08:16 AM (xnmPy)

38 So, I'll weigh in with my meager offerings amidst all the heavy thinkers this morning. I read for fun. I seldom want to learn anything. Currently I've got "The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club", by Dorothy L. Sayers. The plot is secondary to Lord Peter being Lord Peter. It is not educational in the least, which is how I like my books.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 25, 2021 08:16 AM (45fpk)

39
Pants check! Pants check! Show a leg! While in the station, please refrain!

Posted by: The Conductor at July 25, 2021 08:17 AM (a3Q+t)

40 One of my birthday presents last Sunday was "FUBAR: Soldier Slang of World War II." It's a glossary of terms, in alphabetical order, divided into four sections: Army/Marines, Navy, German, and Soviet. Descriptions of women, weapons, what have you. REMF isn't listed, so I guess the term was around before the war. This is explaining some terms I came across in the original novel "M*A*S*H."

I've also begun "Helluva Town," a history of how NYC changed during the war years. I'm barely into it, but I'm learning interesting tidbits.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 08:17 AM (Om/di)

41 Young lady in the painting is contemplating. Yep, she's going to kill that old bastard she married, get the loyal help to swear up and down his homo valet did it, and live a life of luxury on the inheritance.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 25, 2021 08:18 AM (I58tH)

42 Well I'm working through Windswept House but have stopped to look up some of the Malachi Martin back stories.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:18 AM (ONvIw)

43 >>Hitchens' writing style is pompous and self absorbed. I can only read it for a little while before it gets irritating! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2021 08:13 AM (Q9lwr)

De gustibus non est and all that. "Love, Poverty and War" by the same author is easier sledding.

Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 08:20 AM (xK9An)

44 35 Except vmom I haven't been to public library since 6th grade
Posted by: Skip

you should go - one of the few not totally evil things your tax dollars pay for

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:20 AM (oEn12)

45 Those pants are gayer than Sulu's picnic basket.

Posted by: A Klingon at July 25, 2021 08:20 AM (Tnijr)

46 19 Howdy Eris. We missed you yesterday.
Posted by: Muad'dib at July 25, 2021 08:09 AM (WLeoI)
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I wanted to go! I missed you all. Sounds like you found a good venue.

One of the pleasures of a MoMee is the conversation, and some other venues made it difficult to hear all the wacky depraved stuff being uttered by the attendees.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:21 AM (Dc2NZ)

47 I'm gonna guess that the girl in the painting is wearing a Watteau gown

brb gonna ddg

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:21 AM (oEn12)

48 Hey grammie!

Fyi, there's a special service with Jack Hibbs...Mike Pompeo will be featured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulB1HgZ9iCk

Posted by: SMH at July 25, 2021 08:22 AM (lXPeG)

49 28 I'm reading Christopher Hitchens' "Thomas Paine's Rights Of Man," and while the subject is fascinating, Hitchens' writing style is pompous and self absorbed.

I can only read it for a little while before it gets irritating!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2021 08:13 AM (Q9lwr)
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Thomas Mann's "Rite of Pain" is better.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:22 AM (Dc2NZ)

50 (Re)reading Graham Greene's "Brighton Rock" for the umpteenth time. Should be reading "Lie Down In Darkness," Styron's early, excellent novel.

Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 08:22 AM (xK9An)

51 Fyi, there's a special service with Jack Hibbs...Mike Pompeo will be featured.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulB1HgZ9iCk

Posted by: SMH at July 25, 2021 08:22 AM (lXPeG)


Oh! Thank you!

Posted by: grammie winger at July 25, 2021 08:23 AM (45fpk)

52 Currently I've got "The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club", by Dorothy L. Sayers. The plot is secondary to Lord Peter being Lord Peter. It is not educational in the least, which is how I like my books.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 25, 2021 08:16 AM

One of my faves. If you haven't already, follow up with Murder Must Advertise and The Nine Tailors.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 25, 2021 08:23 AM (XsSlw)

53 Grammie --

I determined during college that I like fiction, not literature.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 08:23 AM (Om/di)

54 Sorry OT but Jon Rahm out of Olympics because he tested positive for Covid. This is the same Rahm who tested positive 6 weeks ago and had to withdraw from tournament he was about to win. This Covid crap is looking more ridiculous than ever.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 25, 2021 08:24 AM (2DOZq)

55 Speaking of Catholic Orthodoxy, our parish continues to embrace it. Friday I visited the "student center" (formerly its own parish, it merged with the "townie" one) and saw that they had made a significant change: they moved the crucifix.

The backstory: the student parish sanctuary is rectangular and used to have the altar on a narrow end like a conventional church. Sometime later, they rotated it 90 degrees so it had a more "stadium seating" feel and everyone was closer to the altar. Behind the new altar they have liturgically-colored abstract wall hangings. Off to the side, almost as an afterthought, was a large crucifix sculpted by the same guy who did the Sparty statue (with the result that Jesus is quite buff).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:24 AM (llXky)

56 I seldom want to learn anything.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 25, 2021 08:16 AM (45fpk)

Heh, I'm like that at my job. I've told my supervisors as much--I'm getting old and I don't want to learn new things; I just want to do my job and be efficient and effective and I don't have any goals.

They give me good reviews anyway, so it's golden for now.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at July 25, 2021 08:24 AM (OX9vb)

57 Weak Geek that glossary book does sound it would be up my alley

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 08:25 AM (Cxk7w)

58 Off to the side, almost as an afterthought, was a large crucifix sculpted by the same guy who did the Sparty statue (with the result that Jesus is quite buff).
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Is it wrong that I laughed?

Is it worse that I'm contemplating Jesus with a six-pack?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:26 AM (Dc2NZ)

59 Jiang Qing?

Posted by: MichiCanuck at July 25, 2021 08:26 AM (m3iaN)

60 Continued...

They've now moved that crucifix to be squarely behind the altar and it utterly dominates the room. It is a very visible change and one that is reflected in the tone and content of the Masses as well. This used to be the archetypal liberal Catholic college parish, but that's no longer the case.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:27 AM (llXky)

61 8 Who dis : Madame Chiang Kai-Shek !
Posted by: runner at July 25, 2021 08:04 AM (V13WU)

Wowee.

I was gonna say Sumako the Japanese actress, but I think this pic is Victorian

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:27 AM (ONvIw)

62 I've been to the Athenaeum a few times. It's gorgeous. It's tucked in a small town in the "Northeast Kingdom" of Vermont - not far from the NH border. It is an unbelievable library for such a small town.

Posted by: 496 at July 25, 2021 08:27 AM (U1eOr)

63 FYI

usa men's just dribble team losing to France, Yeah that France, in the 3rd quarter by 4. LOL

I hope they lose.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:28 AM (Irn0L)

64 >>Jesus with a six-pack? Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:26 AM (Dc2NZ)

Cana after-party plan.

Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 08:28 AM (xK9An)

65 Yoko Ono!

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 25, 2021 08:28 AM (QZxDR)

66 Is it wrong that I laughed?



Is it worse that I'm contemplating Jesus with a six-pack?



Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:26 AM (Dc2NZ)

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The sculpture does in fact have a six-pack. Muscular Christianity, I guess.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:29 AM (llXky)

67 no I'm wrong, arist is 19th century, not 18th

"also his artwork sold pretty cheap, " sneered Hunter

Felix Heullant Armand is a French 19th Century painter who was born in 1834. Felix Heullant Armand's work has been offered at auction multiple times, with realized prices ranging from $309 USD to $6,875 USD, depending on the size and medium of the artwork. Since 2007 the record price for this artist at auction is $6,875 USD for Char nuptial, Japon, sold at Bonhams New York in 2017.

https://tinyurl.com/56tbke3t

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:29 AM (oEn12)

68 Fang Fang?

Posted by: 496 at July 25, 2021 08:29 AM (U1eOr)

69 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 08:30 AM (arJlL)

70 I think I need to pick up a formulaic crime novel- one in which the hero or heroine has a gun pointing at him in the penultimate chapter.

Posted by: Northernlurker, surgite at July 25, 2021 08:30 AM (cSyAR)

71 clock is an hour off
Posted by: Vic

Its set to Middle Whaddyacallit time.

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 08:30 AM (arJlL)

72 Who dis : Madame Chiang Kai-Shek !
Posted by: runner

I thought it was Rock Hudson

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 08:31 AM (arJlL)

73 Jesus probably was well built. All that walking would keep him in shape.

Of course, I think he probably looked like Arafat.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 08:31 AM (Om/di)

74
g'mornin', book-ish 'rons

"anhedonic" must be the secret double-word score word of the week....that's about the third time I've seen it used here the past couple of days

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 25, 2021 08:32 AM (DUIap)

75 It is not educational in the least, which is how I like my books.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 25, 2021 08:16 AM (45fpk

yeah!!!
my kinda people!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:32 AM (oEn12)

76 I thought it was Rock Hudson

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 08:31 AM (arJlL)

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Brian Dennehy. I watched "Silverado" last night, and I thought he did a great job not just playing the villainous sheriff but also the town itself.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:33 AM (llXky)

77 What's odd is thread post time is East coast but comments time stamp is central. Been that way for a few months.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 08:33 AM (Cxk7w)

78 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. And to those who could attend the MoMe, I bet you had a wonderful time. The people of the Horde are the best company.

Posted by: JTB at July 25, 2021 08:34 AM (7EjX1)

79 77 What's odd is thread post time is East coast but comments time stamp is central. Been that way for a few months.
Posted by: Skip

we are transtemporal

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:34 AM (oEn12)

80 we are transtemporal
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:34 AM (oEn12)


Eddies in the space-time continuum.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 25, 2021 08:34 AM (PiwSw)

81 They have golf at the Olympics?? Why not lawn darts then?

Posted by: dantesed at July 25, 2021 08:35 AM (88xKn)

82 watching beach volleyball
players are in loose tank shirts and baggy shorts

I guess they identify as non-female

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:35 AM (oEn12)

83 >>73 Jesus probably was well built. All that walking would keep him in shape.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 08:31 AM (Om/di)

Anthony Burgess' "Kingdom of the Wicked" (also a fine novel) notes that his oratory would've given him a solid core...enough to sustain sermons (and a lengthy, breath-stealing tenure on a crucifix...)

Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 08:35 AM (xK9An)

84 Brian Dennehy. I watched "Silverado" last night, and I thought he did a great job not just playing the villainous sheriff but also the town itself.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:33 AM (llXky)

There is nothing he can't play!

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:35 AM (ONvIw)

85 Buff Jesus. Healthy diet, except for the free bread. Walked everywhere, six days a week. No power tools.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2021 08:36 AM (r4sI4)

86 In Orthodoxy Chesterton says he believes in liberalism as much as ever; it's liberals he doesn't believe in.

Posted by: Northernlurker, surgite at July 25, 2021 08:36 AM (cSyAR)

87 we are transtemporal

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:34 AM (oEn12)

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DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:36 AM (llXky)

88 Any suggestions on what to start with by Owen Barfield?

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:37 AM (ONvIw)

89 "The first thing which I can record concerning myself is, that I was
born. These are wonderful words. This life, to which neither time nor
eternity can bring diminution - this everlasting living soul, began. My
mind loses itself in these depths."

- Groucho Marx, all philosophizing and stuff.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at July 25, 2021 08:37 AM (HaL55)

90 we are transtemporal
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:34 AM (oEn12)

Careful with that kind of language, that could be a thing these days.

Then again, if we claim to be out of place in time and go sack Constantinople, we could claim to be the oppressed minority now.

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 08:38 AM (tCd6q)

91 2 Still no reading this week. Just not interested!
Posted by: rhennigantx

I didnt either - been busy / tired

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:39 AM (oEn12)

92 In Orthodoxy Chesterton says he believes in liberalism as much as ever; it's liberals he doesn't believe in.

Posted by: Northernlurker, surgite at July 25, 2021 08:36 AM (cSyAR)

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Yes, and contra the French Davidians, classical liberalism can only exist in a Christian society. Without it, you have a system that licenses moral depravity and economic exploitation.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:39 AM (llXky)

93 They've now moved that crucifix to be squarely behind the altar and it utterly dominates the room. It is a very visible change and one that is reflected in the tone and content of the Masses as well. This used to be the archetypal liberal Catholic college parish, but that's no longer the case.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:27 AM (llXky)


So your parish is becoming *more* conservative over time? Well, that's a switch.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 08:39 AM (u/ndq)

94 Was looking at Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe series, odd to me they were not written anywhere near the chronological order.
Seems a strange way to write.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 08:40 AM (Cxk7w)

95 Yes, and contra the French Davidians, classical liberalism can only exist in a Christian society. Without it, you have a system that licenses moral depravity and economic exploitation.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:39 AM (llXky)

Like the one we have now.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:40 AM (ONvIw)

96 @94 --

Neither are the Flashman novels.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 08:41 AM (Om/di)

97 I think Cornwell probably starts with the battle he feels like writing about, then injects Sharpe into it

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:41 AM (oEn12)

98 I have just finished a book called Six Frigates by Ian W. Toll, about the founding of the US Navy. As contentious as our politics are today, at least we don't have politicians killing each other in duels. My feelings on this are somewhat...mixed.

In other news, 'ette author Sabrina Chase has released a new book, Sky Tribe, in her Guardian's Compact series. I'm currently neck-deep in Mike Kupari's The Family Business otherwise I'd be eye-scanning that one.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 25, 2021 08:42 AM (CcOog)

99 Charlie Chan?

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 25, 2021 08:43 AM (QZxDR)

100 Finished The Captive, the first book of the third volume of Proust. Surely the title referred to Albertine, Marcel's girlfriend who put up with his weirdness, compensated by him buying her a *lot* of expensive things (he was even nattering about a Rolls although I don't know how attached to reality that was), to live with him until she bolted while he was out and about. Marcel was never happy with her, believing that she was keeping him from plowing other trim in places like Venice but never being stand up enough to terminate things. I think she put up with his bullshit mainly because he was smart about arty things and was well connected in salon society but finally she had enough and took off while he was out. Even though this solved Marcel's problem he's pissed off it didn't happen on his terms. The whole thing is pathetically funny. Not sure exactly how cancel culture would react to this other than not well.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 08:44 AM (y7DUB)

101 Yes, and contra the French Davidians, classical liberalism can only exist in a Christian society. Without it, you have a system that licenses moral depravity and economic exploitation.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:39 AM (llXky)

Like everything else that lead to America being exceptional, it hinged on a moral, lawful, interested people. Lose the morality and everything else goes with it.

"When the Way is lost, there is benevolence. When benevolence is lost, there is rectitude. When rectitude is lost, there is legalism." -Lao Tzu

And here we are, crushed under a pile of lopsided laws that land on some and exempt others...

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 08:44 AM (tCd6q)

102 So your parish is becoming *more* conservative over time? Well, that's a switch.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 08:39 AM (u/ndq)

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Very much so, and it seems to be happening elsewhere. We stopped in on our old parish about a year ago for Mass and the new priest (the one from when we were there had retired) and there was a similar change - the modern decorations were gone and replaced by more traditional ones. The altar had been reversed so the priest faced away from the congregation while preparing the Eucharist - almost Tridentine (but in English).

I was at a Mass "up north" three weeks ago and they included the St. Michael prayer at the conclusion of the Mass ("protect us in battle").

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:44 AM (llXky)

103 brb gonna ddg
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

I never heard it called that before !

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 08:45 AM (arJlL)

104 "Love, Poverty and War" by the same author is easier sledding.


Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 08:20 AM (xK9An)


Thanks...


Hitchens is wonderfully well read, but I just wish he didn't insist upon proving it all the time!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2021 08:45 AM (Q9lwr)

105 Good morning.
I didn't read this week. Thinking about moving, stressing about moving, packing and moving.

Now done with that, no more excuses.
About 400 pages into Brandon Sanderson's second book in the series. Library automatically renewed it so now the pressure's off. Could have used the incentive.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2021 08:45 AM (Y+l9t)

106
I was at a Mass "up north" three weeks ago and they included the St. Michael prayer at the conclusion of the Mass ("protect us in battle").
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:44 AM (llXky)


That's interesting. The growing recognition that there IS a battle.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:46 AM (ONvIw)

107 I've been thinking about recommending this library for months and never got around to it.

There is also a wonderful collection of art on display in the room at the back, including a wall sized mural of Bierstadt's Yosemite which was fully restored a few years ago. Worth a visit if in St. Johnsbury!

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 08:46 AM (S1hrL)

108 Snobs love to bag on Silverado. Dennehy was a round character.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2021 08:46 AM (r4sI4)

109 I never heard it called that before !
Posted by: JT

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 08:46 AM (oEn12)

110 My O'Brian re-read continues this week with _The Ionian Mission_, which includes a nice throw-in reference to a real character. At one point Captain Aubrey pays a courtesy call on Admiral Mitchell aboard his flagship. Mitchell is an extremely fit older man who enjoys challenging his subordinates to a race up the shrouds to the masthead, with a case of champagne as the stake.

Turns out he's a real guy: started as a common sailor, rumored to have been "flogged around the fleet" for desertion, got recommended for a commission later on, and worked his way up to a flag. Amusingly, the Wikipedia page about him has one source: the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography page on Mitchell . . .

. . . which is written by Patrick O'Brian.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 25, 2021 08:46 AM (QZxDR)

111 Thomas Mann's "Rite of Pain" is better.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 08:22 AM (Dc2NZ)

Well done!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2021 08:47 AM (Q9lwr)

112 I'm currently reading James Cagny's autobiography.

I forget the author's name.

(its pretty good !)

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 08:47 AM (arJlL)

113 That's interesting. The growing recognition that there IS a battle.
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:46 AM (ONvIw)

Maybe people are remembering that Satan exists.

And damn, he's been busy lately.

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 08:48 AM (tCd6q)

114 I will also note that when the US Catholic bishops were set to vote on creating a Eucharistic Cohesion policy, the media accounts all said it was controversial, likely wouldn't pass, etc., but when the votes were taken, it was favored by a margin of 3 to 1.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:48 AM (llXky)

115 33-Year Low: U.S. Viewer Numbers Collapse for Woke Tokyo Olympics Opening

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:48 AM (Irn0L)

116 This Covid crap is looking more ridiculous than ever.

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It's quite simple. If you don't get vaxed you're worse than Hitler but getting vaxed isn't enough to keep you from getting or spreading covid so you have to wear a mask but one isn't enough so you have to wear several and you still can't go anywhere.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 08:49 AM (d9FiS)

117 Year Low: U.S. Viewer Numbers Collapse for Woke Tokyo Olympics Opening

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Shoulda had the Olympics in Venezuela !

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 08:50 AM (arJlL)

118 Think of it as uncovering a previously unknown part of history.

Reminds me of the comics series "Planetary." The lead character's goal in his adventures was to explore the world's secret history.

That's description really doesn't do justice to the series. It was a fantastic read, especially for long-term comics readers. For example, the main villains were based on the Fantastic Four.

Yes, the book included people with super-powers, but the lead character used his brain more than his power (heat subtraction -- he could freeze things).

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 08:51 AM (Om/di)

119 That painting in the post is great. I love the muted colors, relaxed but rich appearance, and the detail of the lady's dress and the objects in the room. A pleasure to look at.

Posted by: JTB at July 25, 2021 08:52 AM (7EjX1)

120 "33-Year Low: U.S. Viewer Numbers Collapse for Woke Tokyo Olympics Opening"


Bill Whittle had a show about that, "ACHIEVING THE IMPOSSIBLE: U.S. Women's Soccer Gets America to Root for Olympic Failure"

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 25, 2021 08:53 AM (CcOog)

121 113 That's interesting. The growing recognition that there IS a battle.
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:46 AM (ONvIw)

Maybe people are remembering that Satan exists.

And damn, he's been busy lately.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 08:48 AM (tCd6q)

I have long since believed that the devil is beside himself with frustration and has nothing to do except scope out retirement condos in Boca because the democrats have taken over his work and have created more chaos and sown more evil than he could have ever hoped to.

Posted by: God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost at July 25, 2021 08:53 AM (l0Cy4)

122 FYI

usa men's just dribble team losing to France, Yeah that France, in the 3rd quarter by 4. LOL

I hope they lose.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:28 AM (Irn0L)


Popovich has really been unmasked since Kawhi Leonard chose to go elsewhere. Having talent like him and Tim Duncan at your beck and call can make ham and egger coaches look really really good.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 08:53 AM (y7DUB)

123 74-73 usa with 1:33 to go

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:53 AM (Irn0L)

124 Reading "Olympia" by Otto Friedrich about Second Empire France -- the art, the culture, the boulevards.
Second Empire craziness makes for good distraction from our own craziness.

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 08:53 AM (S1hrL)

125 76-74 France with 23 seconds

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:54 AM (Irn0L)

126 That's interesting. The growing recognition that there IS a battle.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 08:46 AM (ONvIw)

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Very much so. Our monthly diocesan magazine featured an article in June titled "Spiritual Warfare."

Every year the diocese sends out a liturgical calendar and it features a "saint of the month." October this year will honor Pope St. Pius V, who master-minded the Christian alliance that defeated the Turks at Lepanto. The anniversary of that battle is the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary, aka Our Lady of Victory. As the fleet massed, St. Pius ordered the Church as a whole to pray the rosary so God would grant victory.

The story goes that as the sun was setting on the day of the battle, St. Pius looked out of his window and his face lit up with joy. He ordered the bells rung in Rome and said a Mass of thanksgiving because the Christian fleet had won a glorious victory. And it had, hundreds of miles away and long before any (earthly) messagers could have arrived.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:54 AM (llXky)

127 76-74 France with 23 seconds

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:54 AM (Irn0L)

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There is value in watching all of a football game.

There is no point in watching anything other than the last two minutes of a basketball game.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:55 AM (llXky)

128 That painting in the post is great. I love the muted colors, relaxed but
rich appearance, and the detail of the lady's dress and the objects in
the room. A pleasure to look at.


The only thing it doesn't show is the title of the book she's reading: Obscure Poisons and How to Use Them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at July 25, 2021 08:55 AM (HaL55)

129 76-74 France with 23 seconds

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:54 AM (Irn0L)

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There is value in watching all of a football game.

There is no point in watching anything other than the last two minutes of a basketball game.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 08:55 AM (llXky)

Not watching. Can't. nbc in their infinite wisdom is not broadcasting the game live.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:56 AM (Irn0L)

130 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 08:49 AM (d9FiS)

Given how fearful they are, we might be able to start some subversive, hilarious, and profitable superstitions.

Wearing the color pink makes you less susceptible due to an odd quirk of Raylegh scattering killing the virus on your clothes? Start selling anti-COVID T-shirts.

That kind of thing. Bonus points for ridiculousness. Rub charcoal all over your face (then report them for blackface if they do.) Invent some kind of "Muslim Healing Crystal"? The possibilities are endless.

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 08:56 AM (tCd6q)

131 Maybe the demo with the highest Olympic TV viewership was the same set as most likely to die from da wuflu.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2021 08:56 AM (r4sI4)

132 78-74 france with 21 seconds to go

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:56 AM (Irn0L)

133 Thomas Mann was the final straw for me with the book group. They can read all the boring pointless Germanic shit they want without my participation.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 08:57 AM (y7DUB)

134 Hell is frozen solid.

I'm rooting for the Frogs!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2021 08:57 AM (R/m4+)

135 Good morning, OM, good morning, Horde,

James Herriot's books are delightful.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 25, 2021 08:57 AM (S9c8K)

136 A mention was made in one of the threads earlier this week about Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations" translated by Gregory Hays. This is one of the versions I have and prefer. It is one of the Kindle Daily Deals today for $2.99

I have it in the physical edition and on Kindle. It's worth having it handy on the Paperwhite reader and in a format that can't be messed with.

Posted by: JTB at July 25, 2021 08:57 AM (7EjX1)

137 Online article in WaPoo yesterday about Delta! variant.

Hyperbole was over the top -- expect 200,000 new deaths by October! and so on and so on.

Masks will be coming back, sooner rather than later. I'm prepared to be shocked by how quickly the sheeple fall in line the second time around.

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 08:58 AM (S1hrL)

138 us about to lose to France in basketball

Apparently they can not shut up and dribble since they can't dribble or shoot

Go Woke, what could possibly go wrong

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 08:58 AM (Irn0L)

139 Here We Go France! Here We Go!

(clap clap)

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2021 08:59 AM (R/m4+)

140 I mean, you wouldn't want to be seen in public without your anti-COVID emu, would you? People might think you're anti-science.

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 09:00 AM (tCd6q)

141 The more games we lose, the happier I am. Let the Wokesters cry.

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:00 AM (S1hrL)

142 79-74 France 17 seconds LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:01 AM (Irn0L)

143 6 ... "Are there more audio books on YouTube?"

Good morning, Skip,
YouTube has quite a few audio books as I learned to my surprise. Given the cost of some audio books, I find it a valuable resource.

Posted by: JTB at July 25, 2021 09:01 AM (7EjX1)

144 A mention was made in one of the threads earlier
this week about Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations" translated by Gregory
Hays.


Posted by: JTB at July 25, 2021 08:57 AM (7EjX1)

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I was browsing at the book store the other day and it was really depressing. All the woke stuff everywhere, even military history. A few of the classics here and there, but most revisionist takes on how awful everything is. Oh, and the history section was dwarfed by the navel-gazing sexuality area. I can get that people are into odd things, but a hundred variations on "teh ghey is soo cool" is a bit much.

Anyhow, they did have lots of different editions of Meditations, which I thought was interesting.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:01 AM (llXky)

145 Do the Olympic BB rules allow running with the ball?

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2021 09:01 AM (r4sI4)

146 RIP Dale "Snort" Snodgrass

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 25, 2021 09:01 AM (6mvRv)

147 Do the Olympic BB rules allow running with the ball?
Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2021 09:01 AM (r4sI4)

No but they allow tea bagging

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:02 AM (Irn0L)

148 It would be so nice if the Olympics would focus solely on the competitors and not on what country they are representing. I hate the medal tallies.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 09:02 AM (Om/di)

149 133:

You didn't like The Magic Mountain?

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:02 AM (S1hrL)

150 81-74 France 10 seconds to go

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:02 AM (Irn0L)

151 "Murder Must Advertise" is one of my favorite Wimseys, too. One of the subplots is pretty silly, but it's more than made up for by the clever plot and ad-agency bantering. (Sayers once worked for an ad agency and really captures it.) Wimsey's ad campaign is hilarious.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at July 25, 2021 09:02 AM (fTtFy)

152 The more games we lose, the happier I am. Let the Wokesters cry.
Posted by: Ziba

Wasn't that a Prince song ?

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:03 AM (arJlL)

153 If the won they would all kneel anyway

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 09:04 AM (Cxk7w)

154 1 The more games we lose, the happier I am. Let the Wokesters cry.
Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:00 AM (S1hrL)

Me too.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:04 AM (ONvIw)

155 81-74 France 10 seconds to go
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:02 AM (Irn0L)
~~~~~

Sounds like basketball minutes are even longer than football minutes. Who knew?

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2021 09:04 AM (9GRhC)

156 FINAL. France defeats the woke us men 83-76

WHAT A FUCKIN DISGRACE

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:04 AM (Irn0L)

157 Wasn't that a Prince song ?
Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:03 AM (arJlL)

Not very familiar with Prince. Was it?

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:05 AM (S1hrL)

158
WHAT A FUCKIN DISGRACE
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:04 AM (Irn0L)

A well-deserved one

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:05 AM (ONvIw)

159 So the BLM team is 0 fer?

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 09:05 AM (Cxk7w)

160 FINAL. France defeats the woke us men 83-76

WHAT A FUCKIN DISGRACE
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Now, don't hold back Captain, tell us how ya REALLY feel !

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:05 AM (arJlL)

161 Disgracio ....

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 25, 2021 09:05 AM (6mvRv)

162 I just finished reading Hannah Arendt's "Eichmann in Jerusalem"... it's the first heavy reading I've done in quit awhile (real life has been, for me, too depressing to dive into this kind of book), but it was sitting out at my parent's house on a visit and I started, and kept going until the end. It is both depressing and worthwhile. Two things of note that I learned: 1. Eichmann: there's was nothing extraordinary about him... no blinding hatred of Jews (just "routine" anti-Semitism), probably below-average intelligence... just a follower of orders (not that this excuses his atrocities in the slightest); Arendt called this the banality of evil. Human slaughter on an industrial scale required many "little Eichmanns." 2. Eichmann (and the Nazi's in general) used Jews in their own destruction. Without the cooperation of Jewish Councils and kapos and the like, the holocaust could not have happened. They often thought they were saving themselves, but soon ended up being the next ones gassed. Depressing. The lesson: NEVER cooperate with evil.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:05 AM (pcsoT)

163 If the won they would all kneel anyway

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 09:04 AM (Cxk7w)

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I'm enjoying the woke crowd slowly realizing that ripping on the US does nothing to earn them respect abroad, and in fact results in even more contempt being hurled at them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:06 AM (llXky)

164 Chic alors!

Oh, the indignity.

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:06 AM (S1hrL)

165 Wasn't that a Prince song ?
Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:03 AM (arJlL)

Not very familiar with Prince. Was it?
Posted by: Ziba

It was When Doves Cry.

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:06 AM (arJlL)

166 I would say we should just send out college kids but they are woke also so fuck them all.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:07 AM (Irn0L)

167 The more I get into Windswept House, the more I realize that this plot has been going on since the end of the war. The book may be about the Vatican, but the players seem pretty corporate

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:07 AM (ONvIw)

168 WHAT A FUCKIN DISGRACE

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:04 AM (Irn0L)

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Poetic justice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:07 AM (llXky)

169 I've been reading Dante's Divine Comedy and listening to the Modern Scholar course on it to help me understand it. One thing I found amusing was that Dante put a character widely believed to be Pope Clement V in Hell as one of the neutrals who were neither good nor evil and consequently spend eternity following a blank banner and being tormented by gadflies. He is placed in Hell because of the "great refusal" believed to be his voluntary resignation from the papacy allowing the ascension of Boniface with tragic consequences for Dante. (The Modern Scholar says he is the only pope to resign but this has been superceded by events.) One wonders whether Benedict is watching.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 09:07 AM (d9FiS)

170 A confession:

I visited a comics shop and a used-book store yesterday and left each empty-handed.

To be honest, I went to each just to get away from the "Glee" marathon in my house.

I did tag a few items in my mind for when I feel like spending money again.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 09:08 AM (Om/di)

171 I can see why that lady is "contemplating" instead of reading. She's not a reader, she's waaaay overdressed for it. Think about how those bracelets would clang when she turned the page.

We're lucky the book is turned the right way up

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:09 AM (AwPyG)

172
To be honest, I went to each just to get away from the "Glee" marathon in my house.


My wife and daughters were watching that also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:09 AM (Irn0L)

173 It will be interesting to see how the Olympic sports weather this woke storm and harvest of defeat.

There's not a ton of money for most of these sports, and the patriotic types are probably going to balk. Liberals won't give money because they hate sports, so I guess they'll have to stomp on the flag in their parents' basement for the next 4 years.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:09 AM (llXky)

174 Call me crazy, but Who Dis? looks more Slavic than Japanese. Not that I have the slightest clue who she is.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 09:09 AM (Xwt96)

175 CN

Regarding Owen Barfield...his History, Guilt and Habit is a quick and interesting read.

I also enjoyed the Zaleski book called: the Fellowship, The Literary Lives of the Inklings.

Barfield was one of them, along with Tolkien and Lewis.

Posted by: squeakywheel at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (H3YxZ)

176 So no Owen Barfield fans in the Horde?

I think I will start with Saving the Appearances: A Study in Idolatry.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (ONvIw)

177 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:05 AM (pcsoT)


.....
The "banality of evil" is one way to describe the Leftist communist revolution taking place right now in this country.

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (S1hrL)

178 Viva La France!

Suck it BASEketballers! Suck it hard!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (R/m4+)

179 Well, this is what dissunification is, athletics has been so eaten up by woke bullshit that people are rooting for their home teams to lose.

This is so against the natural order of things can be imagined, but this is how the wants it, and this is how they gets it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (tScf+)

180
Barfield was one of them, along with Tolkien and Lewis.
Posted by: squeakywheel at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (H3YxZ)

I did know that part, which made him more interesting. Thanks for the recommendation.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:11 AM (ONvIw)

181 In VDH's A War Like No Other a chapter on Walls concentrated on the siege of Plataea which happened early on in the war and nothing much seemed to happen in Thucydides account. That's because nothing much did happen in a particularly inefficient way to use resources in warfare that the stubborn stupidity of both sides caused to happen. VDH points out that tranferring the battlefield from open fields of hoplite warfare to civilian population centers was a not good development of the war which unfortunately didn't end at the conclusion.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:11 AM (y7DUB)

182 Someone said on another thread that this is the first time they've cheered when the US teams lose.

I wonder how the athletes feel about that.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:11 AM (AwPyG)

183 Viva La France!

Suck it BASEketballers! Suck it hard!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (R/m4+)

especially their uber woke self hating white coach popovich. Choke on it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:12 AM (Irn0L)

184 The "banality of evil" is one way to describe the Leftist communist revolution taking place right now in this country.
Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (S1hrL)

That phrase is overworked IMO. There is nothing banal about the corruption in the FBI and DOJ and their attempts to demolish the First Amendment.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:12 AM (ONvIw)

185 the meticulous nature of the wansee document, doesn't suggest banality, eichmann was a socony mobil salesman, who learned hebrew to be able to understand the enemy, he visited jerusalem in 1937 with a guy named hagen, this kind of single minded determination is not banal, then again arendt had a thing with heidegger, so she may not have been the sharpest knife in the first place,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 09:12 AM (hMlTh)

186 Someone said on another thread that this is the first time they've cheered when the US teams lose.

I wonder how the athletes feel about that.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:11 AM (AwPyG)

Go woke and suffer the consequences

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:13 AM (Irn0L)

187 I wonder how the athletes feel about that.
Posted by: artemis
___

They brought this upon themselves.

Posted by: SMH at July 25, 2021 09:13 AM (hjWtA)

188 To be honest, I went to each just to get away from the "Glee" marathon in my house.


My wife and daughters were watching that also
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Why didn't you tell them that you were a Captain ????

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:13 AM (arJlL)

189 Marcus Aurelius - I compared some translations a while ago, here

https://tinyurl.com/x94dnhsz

(but dont click on the booklinks - Amazon booted me off thgeir affiliate program so just buy through another site)

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 09:14 AM (oEn12)

190 it's like amon goeth, the villain of schindler's list, he was a smuggler of weapons and other materials in his native Styria, before risng to his rank in the SS, this kind of zealousness, is indicative,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 09:14 AM (hMlTh)

191 Does anyone enjoy the Patterson books, (even when he was the one writing them)? They always seemed so one-dimensional to me.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:14 AM (AwPyG)

192 169: The Divine Comedy

Husband read the Comedy in high school in Italy and is currently listening to Hillsdale College lecture series on it. Thinks it is excellent and highly recommends.

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:14 AM (S1hrL)

193 184 The "banality of evil" is one way to describe the Leftist communist revolution taking place right now in this country.
Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (S1hrL)

More like the luridness of evil. Right about now I could do with a lot more banality.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2021 09:15 AM (H8QX8)

194 VIVE LE FRANCE!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 09:16 AM (oEn12)

195 Neither are the Flashman novels.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 08:41 AM (Om/di)


Well, one cannot expect the chronological order of discovery of manuscripts tucked away in old tea-chests, bureaus and sewn into the stuffing of old chestertons, after all.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2021 09:16 AM (HG00O)

196 Was that our white guy team?

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2021 09:16 AM (+YmEN)

197 I never watched, but apparently there are a lot of disturbing rumors about the Glee cast. Apparently an unusual amount of them have died.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:16 AM (AwPyG)

198 You didn't like The Magic Mountain?
Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:02 AM (S1hrL)


Hated it to the point of just stopped reading it. It's possible the translation was really terrible (a bad translation of Madam Bovary almost ruined it for me until a friend gave me a much better one; like night and day) or I was in the wrong state of mind to enjoy it. But it was sheer pointless torture.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:17 AM (y7DUB)

199 Listening to Churchill's Triumph and Tragedy, the last of his WWII series.

It's after the Yalta conference and Churchill is in the position of "If only Comrade Stalin knew" sending worried telegrams to Stalin about how Molotov is breaking the agreements about the Poles, the Romanians, etc. without once considering that the only way Molotov would be doing such things was with Stalin's command. It's frustrating and infuriating, although Churchill does acknowledge at the time of writing the book that he and Roosevelt got badly rolled by Russia.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 09:17 AM (1lKRm)

200 Charles Williams -- another of the Inklings. His The Place of the Lion and Descent into Hell. wonderful. Others...not so much

Posted by: yara at July 25, 2021 09:17 AM (N7mou)

201 The FBI and DOJ have been corrupt for decades!

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:18 AM (S1hrL)

202 Was that our white guy team?
Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2021 09:16 AM (+YmEN)

one white guy and the white coach who is ashamed to be white

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:18 AM (Irn0L)

203 Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 09:12 AM (hMlTh)

After reading, I was curious if Arendt's take was the consensus. A little poking around on the internet showed me that there is a contingent that disagrees with her. One other thing that I noticed: Eichmann was a "joiner" and found comfort in groups... I do think Arendt was right that Eichmann was not a particularly gifted person in any way. He was not psychotic (if the psychiatrists who examined him in Jerusalem before the trial are to be trust, and I think they are).

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:19 AM (pcsoT)

204 AW, what translation of the Divine Comedy are you reading? I was pretty happy with the Everyman's Library version, translated by Allen Mandelbaum.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 25, 2021 09:19 AM (PiwSw)

205 I juat Rapinoe to lose humiliatingly
and possibly loise her shit publicly

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (oEn12)

206 Another interesting part of Dante is his fear of entering the City of Dis. The devils warn him that Medusa may come and turn him to stone if he gazes upon her. His virtuous pagan guide, the ancient Roman poet Virgil, tells him to turn his back and put his hands over his eyes. Even this may be insufficient so Virgil also places his hands over Dante's eyes. The Modern Scholar interprets this to be the issue of whether to use your intellect to prove the existence of God. Virgil, representing the intellect, turns away from the issue because he knows God cannot be proved intellectually and to attempt to do so is to be turned to stone because it is fool's errand. Rather, God is found by grace through experience.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (d9FiS)

207 201 The FBI and DOJ have been corrupt for decades!
Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:18 AM (S1hrL)

And their evil used to be more workaday banal, now it's loud brash and in our faces with a splash of recklessness.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (ONvIw)

208 The "banality of evil" is one way to describe the Leftist communist revolution taking place right now in this country.
Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:10 AM (S1hrL)

That phrase is overworked IMO. There is nothing banal about the corruption in the FBI and DOJ and their attempts to demolish the First Amendment.
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:12 AM (ONvIw)


Barnes has pointed out the Nazis came from the professional class, not the working class. Like Fauci...

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (y7DUB)

209 ah, re: Charles Williams... i should've limited it to his novels. i've not read anything else (poetry or essays) by him

Posted by: yara at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (N7mou)

210 I read one Patterson book a long time ago. Got to the end and thought "that's it?". Why bother?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2021 09:21 AM (Y+l9t)

211 198: The Magic Mountain

Yes, state of mind is everything when reading.
I had to try MM more than once before getting into it.

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:21 AM (S1hrL)

212 I never watched, but apparently there are a lot of
disturbing rumors about the Glee cast. Apparently an unusual amount of
them have died.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:16 AM (AwPyG)

---
The first few episodes were quite funny and well done, but the show quickly degenerated into a celebration of teh ghey.

And yes, one of the cast members was busted for sex crimes and there were several suicides. A lot of Hollywood youth fare seems to be a recruitment mechanism for sexual predators and Glee seems to have been a prime example of it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:21 AM (llXky)

213 evil is not banal. but sometimes the people implementing it are

Posted by: yara at July 25, 2021 09:21 AM (N7mou)

214 The lesson: NEVER cooperate with evil.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:05 AM (pcsoT)

Daniel Goldhagen's "Hitler's Willing Executioners" is another good read...but depressing as hell.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2021 09:22 AM (Q9lwr)

215 SMH - watching - thanks again

Posted by: grammie winger at July 25, 2021 09:22 AM (45fpk)

216 The main problem is that sports contests are the ultimate meritocracy, but the woke folks will only promote their own. so we wind up with unlikeable purple-haired soccer woman, who is obviously past her prime, and we lose.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:22 AM (AwPyG)

217
RIP Dale "Snort" Snodgrass

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 25, 2021 09:01 AM


another grim milestone for the biden administration

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 25, 2021 09:22 AM (DUIap)

218 Hated it to the point of just stopped reading it. It's possible the translation was really terrible..
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:17 AM (y7DUB)

I've been reading Nabokov's translation of Lermontov's "A Hero of Our Time," the first Russian novel, and delightful. But after reading the translator's notes and foreword I'm inspired to read Nabokov himself.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2021 09:23 AM (H8QX8)

219 You're welcome, Grammie.

Watching also.

Posted by: SMH at July 25, 2021 09:23 AM (hjWtA)

220 Well, one cannot expect the chronological order of
discovery of manuscripts tucked away in old tea-chests, bureaus and sewn
into the stuffing of old chestertons, after all.


Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2021 09:16 AM (HG00O)

---
The original Conan stories were purposefully written out of order - random memories around the camp fire...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:23 AM (llXky)

221 Churchill does acknowledge at the time of writing the book that he and Roosevelt got badly rolled by Russia.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 09:17 AM (1lKRm)


According to Jay Winik, Delano was the chief dumbass in dealing with the Georgian gimp.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:23 AM (y7DUB)

222 I dont think I've ever read a Patterson

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 09:23 AM (oEn12)

223 Sharon(willow's apprentice)

You mentioned that Ace was welcome to put up shelves at your place anytime.

Save him a trip and just throw the shelves on the floor !

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:23 AM (arJlL)

224
Hey-Ho!!! Book People of the Golden Horde!

Face the Dawn and Read!!! Read Now!

Read On to Victory or Doom!!!!

Now Re-e-e-ead!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (5NkmN)

225 Barnes has pointed out the Nazis came from the professional class, not the working class. Like Fauci...
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (y7DUB)

Very good point, Captain.... the Fauci's of the world can do (and have done!) much more damage than a lone, psycho serial killer. To me, the phrase "banality of evil" doesn't lessen the evil, but rather is a caution to us all that there are lot of people (most humans?) who can get caught up in evil without necessarily first pursuing it (if that makes sense)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (pcsoT)

226
Things the French Are Better Than Us At - a limerick

They take better care of their troops
They make better vichyssoise soups
Champagne and Bordeaux grapes
Can can dancing, Great Escapes
And to the list you can now add Le Hoops

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (Xwt96)

227 Barnes has pointed out the Nazis came from the professional class, not the working class. Like Fauci...
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (y7DUB)

Nevertheless, there is nothing quotidian about the evil going on here today. It's stunning and meant to frighten people into submission.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (ONvIw)

228 AW, what translation of the Divine Comedy are you reading?

-
I'm reading the Henry Wadsworth Longfellow translation. Not for everybody in that there comments last week about disliking the King James' Elizabethan language and Longfellow is similar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (d9FiS)

229 The main problem is that sports contests are the
ultimate meritocracy, but the woke folks will only promote their own.
so we wind up with unlikeable purple-haired soccer woman, who is
obviously past her prime, and we lose.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:22 AM (AwPyG)

---
They are ultimately entertainment. You can run or jump all you like in your backyard, but if you want people to pay to watch you, it's helpful not to insult them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:25 AM (llXky)

230 Hi JT!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2021 09:25 AM (Y+l9t)

231 I do think Arendt was right that Eichmann was not a particularly gifted person in any way.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:19 AM (pcsoT)

Most people who gravitate towards government work, especially "law enforcers", fit that bill. They join up to be part of a group and the badge and gun make them believe they are in a "special" group, looking out for the rest of us, while having no talents whatsoever. If I remember right, most of the top leaders of the SS fit that bill nicely. Losers who found a home.

If Eichmann was in the FBI today, he would rise to a top position, like Comey and the rest of that scum.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2021 09:25 AM (R/m4+)

232 Hi JT!
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:25 AM (arJlL)

233 Shit tadoo; later Book Horde !

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2021 09:26 AM (arJlL)

234 @220

I'm one of those people who wants to read a series in order, so I don't like it when someone comes up with a prequel.

And if you're not sure of the order, there's a website called orderofbooks.com that lists every series

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:26 AM (AwPyG)

235 I need to revisit "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shire. It's being collecting dust on my bookshelf for a while.

Considering the news from Israel (their PM is mandating the 'rona "vaccine"), I am going to re-read the chapter about kapos (Polish Jews who did the dirty work at the extermination camps). Unlike the Israelis today willingly forcing their fellow citizens to participate in exterimental trials, I'm pretty sure none of the kapos in the Nazi era volunteered for that.

The people of Israel elected a freaking Nazi as PM. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:26 AM (u+nry)

236 Woke Sports is a different shade (rainbow) of meritocracy.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2021 09:27 AM (r4sI4)

237 Ask a leftist what did Hitler do that was bad?

The answer can be used to detect androids.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 25, 2021 09:27 AM (ptq0O)

238 And if you're not sure of the order, there's a website called orderofbooks.com that lists every series
Posted by: artemis

fantasticfiction is another good site for checking serieses (seria?)

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 09:27 AM (oEn12)

239 To me, the phrase "banality of evil" doesn't lessen the evil, but rather is a caution to us all that there are lot of people (most humans?) who can get caught up in evil without necessarily first pursuing it (if that makes sense)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (pcsoT)


I think you understand the point.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:28 AM (y7DUB)

240 I'm one of those people who wants to read a series in order, so I don't like it when someone comes up with a prequel.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:26 AM (AwPyG)

Good for you the movie "Memento" was never a book then. You'd be a very confused reader.

Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:28 AM (0asAR)

241 Listening to Churchill's Triumph and Tragedy, the last of his WWII series.


Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 09:17 AM (1lKRm)

---
It's interesting to watch the tone of those books shift as Churchill goes back in time and relieves the various events. The Gathering Storm is full of frustration as he recalls how the war could have been prevented.

Then we get the heroics of Their Finest Hour, and he's having a ball. ("This was a time when it was equally good to live or die.") The mood brightens as the war expands and The Grand Alliance comes into being. The Hinge of Fate turns and the "broad, sunlit uplands" await! Alas, it was not to be, and by the end of the final volume you can sense his disgust with how things turned out.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:29 AM (llXky)

242 " to participate in exterimental trials, "

A neologism? I like it. That is, experimental trials in extermination.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2021 09:29 AM (H8QX8)

243 To me, the phrase "banality of evil" doesn't lessen the evil, but rather is a caution to us all that there are lot of people (most humans?) who can get caught up in evil without necessarily first pursuing it (if that makes sense)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (pcsoT)

It makes sense, but I always thought "banality" meant the day to day evil activities that go under the radar, like filling out the forms for abortions or forced labor camps. The Fauci-type evil is not something he sort of got caught up in as a function of his job, he was a big fish, a big decision maker who deliberately worked with the CCP to alter viruses knowing that bio-warfare was a real possibility, and he believed a pandemic was worth the risk to achieve his research goals. Nah. And Wray is not in any way banal.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:29 AM (ONvIw)

244 1st time in 60yrs that I absolutely have NO interest in the Olympics. From now on the it should be made VERY clear- anyone that takes a knee or disrespects the USA flag or anthem will pay back every freakin dime the US taxpayers paid for their sorry asses to train, eat, live and go to the Olympics! Very over the black folks living the life they have and thinking they have the right to hang on the rags and horrific lives of actual slaves.

Who dis- Madame Chiang Kai-Shek. LOLOLOL

Posted by: sidney at July 25, 2021 09:30 AM (7/kmB)

245 The people of Israel elected a freaking Nazi as PM. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:26 AM (u+nry)

That's what I thought when I read his speech.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2021 09:30 AM (H8QX8)

246 @231

This is true. I've worked in a government bureaucracy before, and the workers tend to be people who would not do well in a competitive environment.

So some people quietly do excellent work, and some people are petty tyrants.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:30 AM (AwPyG)

247 Very good point, Captain.... the Fauci's of the world can do (and have done!) much more damage than a lone, psycho serial killer. To me, the phrase "banality of evil" doesn't lessen the evil, but rather is a caution to us all that there are lot of people (most humans?) who can get caught up in evil without necessarily first pursuing it (if that makes sense)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (pcsoT)

It's kind of a warning in a way.

Evil is often composed of a lot of small steps that seem pretty harmless, until you look at them in totality - in a "can't see the forest for the trees" sort of way.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 09:31 AM (xNrL5)

248 A little-known fact. Jesus was quite corpulent at the time of the Baptism in the Jordan. At the end of the forty days in the desert, however, he had slimmed down considerably.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 25, 2021 09:31 AM (JVCkA)

249 Memento was a great movie. Unique.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2021 09:32 AM (Y+l9t)

250 So some people quietly do excellent work, and some people are petty tyrants.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:30 AM (AwPyG)

And unfortunately, the petty tyrants tend to network, so once one gets promoted into a hiring position, they dominate the whole structure.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 09:32 AM (xNrL5)

251 Arendt, for what it's worth, was looking at unthinking people and unthinking tasks. The evil here seems very thoughtful, be it the Alcoff brothers, Milley, or the GOP cooperation in fraud to keep the money coming.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:33 AM (ONvIw)

252 The DOJ used to be pretty independent. That changed with Obama and it has never changed back. It is now a political org dependent on what kind of President we have.

Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2021 09:34 AM (mpXpK)

253 Hannah Arendt. AKA Frau Blucher. Neigh

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 25, 2021 09:34 AM (JVCkA)

254 @247

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:34 AM (AwPyG)

255 Very disappointed to miss the MoMe, but delighted that it went well & that the weather cooperated.

Not much to add re: books. Still working my way through Gary Taubes' "The Case Against Sugar." However, we watched "The Man Who Invented Christmas" based on the book of the same name about Charles Dickens' quest to write "A Christmas Carol." It was a charming, funny film and refreshingly free of SJW nonsense and anachronistic casting or social commentary. Christopher Plummer was great, as always. Highly recommend.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at July 25, 2021 09:35 AM (R1NI2)

256 This week, the book my wife (the lovely and gracious Annalucia) and I are reading aloud is "Darling Monster", which is a volume of the letters of Lady Diana Cooper to her son, John Julius Norwich. The volume covers the years of 1939 to 1952. Lady Diana was the wife of Duff Cooper, who was a noted Conservative politician who, at one point, was First Lord of the Admiralty. Her son, John Julius, was a historian, best known for his "History of Venice" and "History of Byzantium" - both popular histories of the very best kind: learned, informative, and a joy to read. The letters are most interesting, especially those from the war years; and Lady Diana's style is delightful. They're the sort of letters that one hopes to get - and never does. I can see why people like Evelyn Waugh and Nancy Mitford loved to correspond with her, and I can see from whom her son learned how to write. Highly recommended!

Posted by: Nemo at July 25, 2021 09:35 AM (S6ArX)

257
And unfortunately, the petty tyrants tend to
network, so once one gets promoted into a hiring position, they dominate
the whole structure.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 09:32 AM (xNrL5)

---
What happens is that the people who are there to work, work. They use their time to do the stuff they were hired to do. The ones who enjoy office politics put all their effort into that with the inevitable result that they run the show.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:35 AM (llXky)

258 @252

I dunno, I take a darker view. I think it's the left's SS. The FBI and CIA, too.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:35 AM (AwPyG)

259 Arendt, for what it's worth, was looking at unthinking people and unthinking tasks. The evil here seems very thoughtful, be it the Alcoff brothers, Milley, or the GOP cooperation in fraud to keep the money coming.
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:33 AM (ONvIw)

And for every one of those, there's a hundred slugs in the executive agencies that are pretty much completely normal. They go to work, they do normal people things, they go home.

Something stupid and evil comes down from above them, they rubber stamp it and pass it along, then go take a piss, hit on the secretary, or go for donuts.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 09:35 AM (xNrL5)

260 Does anyone enjoy the Patterson books, (even when he was the one writing them)? They always seemed so one-dimensional to me.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:14 AM (AwPyG)

I met a hot chick in a bookstore once. She was in the Patterson section, recommended I give him a try. I did. Read the thing, and thought maybe I got a bad one. So I went back and got another. I realized about 50 pages in it was just rehashed nonsense, and the guy was a hack.

So I never went back to the Patterson section ever again. No chick is THAT hot.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 09:36 AM (5ieoM)

261 I've been reading Nabokov's translation of Lermontov's "A Hero of Our Time," the first Russian novel, and delightful. But after reading the translator's notes and foreword I'm inspired to read Nabokov himself.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2021 09:23 AM (H8QX


As the unofficial Horde Nabokov pom pom waver, you're in for quite a treat although I've gotten strangely bogged down in his translation of Eugene Onegin. A Hero of Our Time is a uniquely Rooski approach to an anti hero which is almost a universe of one.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:36 AM (y7DUB)

262 Nah. And Wray is not in any way banal.
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:29 AM (ONvIw)

I totally absolutely agree with this point. Fauci and Wray (and Comey... and Biden-puppet-master-whoever-they-are) know exactly what they're doing. They're only banal in the sense that their talents are "ordinary".... every time I think of those people, my blood pressure goes up.

BTW, has everyone totally forgotten how "Judge" Sullivan smashed laws and the constitution to attempt a crushing of General Flynn??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:37 AM (pcsoT)

263 The road to hell is paved with good intentions
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:34 AM (AwPyG)

The history of every movement that believes in "the greater good" definitely confirms that.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 25, 2021 09:37 AM (xNrL5)

264 us plays Iran in basketball next...is it possible I will root for Iran? LOL. Sigh, this is what it has come to

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2021 09:37 AM (Irn0L)

265 I never watched, but apparently there are a lot of
disturbing rumors about the Glee cast. Apparently an unusual amount of
them have died.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:16 AM



There's a reason for that: https://youtu.be/Prhi3_Nvt3U

Posted by: Bert G at July 25, 2021 09:37 AM (UJh+r)

266 Barnes has pointed out the Nazis came from the professional class, not the working class. Like Fauci...
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (y7DUB)

Wrong. The Nazis that tried to overthrow the German government in 1923 (Beer Hall Putsch) were mostly a gang of unemployed amateurs that used to be the working class. After the failed coup and spending time in jail, Hitler started recruiting pros as brownshirts, namely former police officers.

Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:37 AM (6qlAy)

267 Nevertheless, there is nothing quotidian about the evil going on here today. It's stunning and meant to frighten people into submission.
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:24 AM (ONvIw)

I disagree. It is becoming quotidian -- routine --and little/not enough is being done to stop it. There are myriad examples , too obvious to list, of the socially destructive evil behavior of individuals and groups overwhelming us and itis frightening, indeed.

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:38 AM (S1hrL)

268 237 Ask a leftist what did Hitler do that was bad?

The answer can be used to detect androids.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 25, 2021 09:27 AM (ptq0O)


Ask a leftist what Stalin did that was bad. Or Mao. Or Castro. Or Pol Pot. Etc. Etc.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 25, 2021 09:39 AM (Fs5vw)

269 Tamaki Miura? In Madama Butterfly?

Did anyone get the who dis?

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:40 AM (ONvIw)

270 Getting back to books, Civil War in Europe 1905-1949 is an interesting look at all the big wars (and how they resembled civil wars) and the actual civil wars. Payne chose the title because by 2010 there was a movement in the EU to redefine the world wars as "civil wars," and Payne demonstrates that they weren't.

However, he does note that WW II did share many elements of civil war, which are often more pitiless than conflicts between two states. He naturally does a deep dive in Spain, but his discussions of civil wars in Finland, Hungary and Russia are also very interesting. OM asked me to write a book on Russia, but Payne cites some books he says are good, so I will check them out before I go any further. I'm not quite finished, but it is a good, quick read.

Also timely, as he discusses how states break down.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:40 AM (llXky)

271 They are ultimately entertainment. You can run or jump all you like in your backyard, but if you want people to pay to watch you, it's helpful not to insult them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:25 AM (llXky)


Then along came ESPN who considered insulting the audience entertainment.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:40 AM (y7DUB)

272 @262

I think that's the most discouraging aspect of the overthrow of the government; everyone saw it was happening in real time, and none of the perpetrators--going back five years--has been truly punished.

Trump famously said "These people are stupid" but I have to disagree with him. They just keep steamrolling along--they definitely steamrolled him.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:40 AM (AwPyG)

273 BTW, has everyone totally forgotten how "Judge" Sullivan smashed laws and the constitution to attempt a crushing of General Flynn??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2021 09:37 AM (pcsoT)

I hope one day we find out what the Deep State had on that prick. His behavior was totally deranged.

Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:40 AM (6qlAy)

274 I used to live in Mass so a big sports fan: Patriots, Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins. Even went to games once in a while. Now......never watch, listen or pay attention to anything in the sports world. Couldn;t care less about the Olympics. Those athletes for the most part are just as much The Elite as any other multi billioinaire or Grifitng politician and their corrupt offspring.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2021 09:41 AM (Y+l9t)

275 I keep on mentioning books I have heard of and have no intention of reading, but sound interesting.

Andrew Heaton has put out a book of poetry called Los Angeles is Hideous: Poems About An Ugly City. He is doing the rounds of podcasts and has his own description of it on his science fiction podcast, Alienating the Audience.

He moved to LA in February 2020 "for the networking available there" and left within a year to live in a travel trailer, referring to LA as "A cinderblock smeared with lipstick"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2021 09:41 AM (HG00O)

276 A little-known fact. Jesus was quite corpulent at the time of the Baptism in the Jordan. At the end of the forty days in the desert, however, he had slimmed down considerably.
Posted by: JAS

Staying away from bacon and ham helped immensely.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 25, 2021 09:41 AM (6WCwE)

277 For those with an affection for Schadenfreude, the Cleveland Indians Guardians are playing Little League grade ball.

https://bit.ly/3BDby3k

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 09:41 AM (d9FiS)

278 @271

Early days ESPN was so much fun. They had to search heard to find sports to fill up the 24 hour format, so we saw darts, and curling.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:42 AM (AwPyG)

279 Re: Judge Sullivan
I hope one day we find out what the Deep State had on that prick. His behavior was totally deranged.
Posted by: Federal Agent

I think he whitewashed (!?) his son's rapey crimes.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (6WCwE)

280 Ask a leftist what did Hitler do that was bad?



The answer can be used to detect androids.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 25, 2021 09:27 AM (ptq0O)

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They will answer that he was a racist, which is the worst thing ever. Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot killed more, but their enemies were (allegedly) selected on the basis of class, which made it okay.

I've had people argue this.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (llXky)

281 @277

So bizarre, that a sports team gets a "defensive" name like "guardians."

Must have been a committee of bureaucrats

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (AwPyG)

282 Finished Michael Malice's "Dear Reader" this week. Highly recommended, especially if you are interested in understanding North Korea better.

It's written in the Malice style, which is either a good or a bad thing, depending on your bent. I think he tried his best to create a "personality" for Kim Jong Il, and I don't know how accurate that is, but apparently the "facts" presented are what the people of North Korea are taught, with Malice's subtle way of letting the reader know how horrible these things are, as he's reciting them in Kim's matter-of-fact, megalomaniacal way.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (5ieoM)

283 well they recruited doctors, 7% of the total cohort lawyes for administrators,

yes a good translation is key, diana mclean who has translated several latin american works, volpi and vasquez gomez, reads better then in spanish, one translation of denisovich, was just terrible, including the meaning of certain terms,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (hMlTh)

284 Early days ESPN was so much fun. They had to search heard to find sports to fill up the 24 hour format, so we saw darts, and curling.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:42 AM (AwPyG)

Dodgeball. The Ocho!

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (H8QX8)

285 Early days ESPN was so much fun. They had to search heard to find sports to fill up the 24 hour format, so we saw darts, and curling.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:42 AM



And roller derby.

Posted by: Bert G at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (UJh+r)

286 I've mostly been reading work-related stuff, which can be interesting, but I don't count it for purposes of the book thread.
Yesterday I was reading a few pages in Camille Paglia's "Sexual Personae." She says that homosexuality, as an identity (as opposed to just an act) is a fairly recent invention. She also says that humans are inherently hierarchical beings, an idea which matches up with Jordan Peterson's work.
Sorry for the randomness; the coffee hasn't taken effect yet.

Posted by: PabloD at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (/1eYZ)

287 Trump famously said "These people are stupid" but I have to disagree with him. They just keep steamrolling along--they definitely steamrolled him.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:40 AM (AwPyG)

He, and we, did not believe that the Justice system in the US was dead. We were wrong.

Some people still think it's all a big complicated scenario in which people are outing the bad guys and Steiner will come. The " if you doubt Durham, you doubt Trump, you crazy" is still alive and well on quodverum where we are still winning like never before

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:44 AM (ONvIw)

288 Ask a leftist what Stalin did that was bad. Or Mao. Or Castro. Or Pol Pot. Etc. Etc.
Posted by: Justsayin'

They cared too much.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 09:44 AM (d9FiS)

289 Just read, "A Day No Pigs Would Die".
Fascinating look back at 1950's Vermont through the eyes of a 12 year old Shaker boy.

Posted by: Your Eminence at July 25, 2021 09:45 AM (8iyB1)

290 Morning Hordemates.
Any truth to the rumor of the MoMe roundup and Weasel and Bluebell we're leading everyone in a conga line thru the County lockup?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2021 09:45 AM (YGzpk)

291 Ahoy, bookfagz!

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 25, 2021 09:45 AM (II3Gr)

292 225 Barnes has pointed out the Nazis came from the professional class, not the working class. Like Fauci...
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (y7DUB)

I've been watching a series on YouTube profiling Nazi leaders. Heinrich Himmler Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbls.
Several of them came from the bureaucracy.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 25, 2021 09:46 AM (cSyAR)

293 sullivans family are a horror show, I communicated with apelbaum, comparing sullivan to the protagonist of the stephen carter novel, and he didn't dissagree

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 09:46 AM (hMlTh)

294 A Hero of Our Time is a uniquely Rooski approach to an anti hero which is almost a universe of one.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:36 AM (y7DUB)

Pechorin is completely identifiable to me.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2021 09:46 AM (H8QX8)

295 After the failed coup and spending time in jail, Hitler started recruiting pros as brownshirts, namely former police officers.

Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:37 AM (6qlAy)

And then he discarded them. See: Night of The Long Knives.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2021 09:47 AM (Q9lwr)

296 294 A Hero of Our Time is a uniquely Rooski approach to an anti hero which is almost a universe of one.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:36 AM (y7DUB)


That's a great book.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:47 AM (ONvIw)

297 Of course there are no androids but how they answer shows no self reflection.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 25, 2021 09:47 AM (ptq0O)

298 Trump famously said "These people are stupid" but I
have to disagree with him. They just keep steamrolling along--they
definitely steamrolled him.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:40 AM (AwPyG)

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The thing is, he was correct. The problem is that there were so many of them.

The left can't win on its own terms, because it has no terms. Already they are turning on each other because only one hand can wield the Ring. Their policies are self-defeating, and by systematically smashing the various institutions they control, they're wrecking their own livelihoods. That's really stupid.

It's the classic good news/bad news paradox. The good news is are enemies are ignorant and self-absorbed, so they keep making bonehead mistakes. The bad news is that the consequences of those mistakes won't be limited to them and they're too stupid to stop.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:47 AM (llXky)

299 The road to hell is paved with good intentions
Posted by: artemis

The bad part is that good intentions paving costs so much.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 09:48 AM (d9FiS)

300 @287

It's a head-scratcher that Devin Nunes, who I think is one of the few straight-shooters, said last week that the Durham report was indeed coming out, and that people would be indicted as a result.

So I don't know what to believe.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:49 AM (AwPyG)

301 Greetings:

Was reading "The Spanish Holocaust" last week but bailed on it a couple of hundred (of 500 or so) pages in. It read like the author had been trapped by trying to prove his title true and it read like an litanization of every bit of travesty that could be found. But when it got to "25 sheep were taken from a wealthy landowner", it was time to go.

However, and to be clear, I didn't doubt the author's veracity just his importance judgements. I'm going to give the same author's "The Spanish Civil War" a shot in the near future.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 25, 2021 09:50 AM (evgyj)

302 269 Tamaki Miura? In Madama Butterfly?

Did anyone get the who dis?
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:40 AM (ONvIw)


I have not seen the correct answer in any comment yet.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 09:50 AM (u/ndq)

303 281 @277

So bizarre, that a sports team gets a "defensive" name like "guardians."

Must have been a committee of bureaucrats
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (AwPyG)

It really would be interesting (maybe) to find out the thought process. Is it an allusion to the Marvelle movie? Is it some sort of uniquely Cleveland thing?

Did it have anything to do with the legal concept of a guardian? I'm going with my first. Some millennial nitwits are fans of the comic/movie.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 09:50 AM (5ieoM)

304 I have not seen the correct answer in any comment yet.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 09:50 AM (u/ndq)

Yoko's mama?

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 09:50 AM (AwYPR)

305 People wondered how everybody in Germany was a Nazi. It was easy. The Nazis made it mandatory to be a member of the Nazi Party. Wanted to buy food, send your kid to school or have a job? Become a Nazi.

Just like the experimental vaccine.

Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:51 AM (O2L4/)

306 Was she the wicked witch of the west?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 25, 2021 09:52 AM (ptq0O)

307 However, and to be clear, I didn't doubt the
author's veracity just his importance judgements. I'm going to give the
same author's "The Spanish Civil War" a shot in the near future.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 25, 2021 09:50 AM (evgyj)

---
Who is the author?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:52 AM (llXky)

308
"Early days ESPN was so much fun. They had to search heard to find sports
to fill up the 24 hour format, so we saw darts, and curling."

Now sports media is 24/7 of morons screaming at each other about who is the best player playing or GOAT. We live in stupid times.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 25, 2021 09:52 AM (qH6FZ)

309 @298

I dunno--they all seem to be in complete lock step, to me--which circles back to the fact that even athletes are toeing the leftist line.

So much so that the order went out to change the narrative to "vaccines are imperative" to "vaccines don't work, back to masks" and everyone turned on a dime.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:52 AM (AwPyG)

310 167 Hey CN. It's both.

Speaking of which, one of the pressures brought to bear to force out Pope Benedict XVI was applied by international banking.

They turned off the faucet to the Vatican Bank.

It's alleged that the Obama administration also played a role. As Zero is a communist, I'm inclined to believe it.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 25, 2021 09:52 AM (S9c8K)

311 272 @262

I think that's the most discouraging aspect of the overthrow of the government; everyone saw it was happening in real time, and none of the perpetrators--going back five years--has been truly punished.

===

this is why blood feuds should make a comeback
old ways are best ways

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 09:53 AM (oEn12)

312 Asabuki Isoko

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 09:53 AM (AwYPR)

313 It's a head-scratcher that Devin Nunes, who I think is one of the few straight-shooters, said last week that the Durham report was indeed coming out, and that people would be indicted as a result.

So I don't know what to believe.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:49 AM (AwPyG)

With this DOJ? Ha!

Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:53 AM (O2L4/)

314 I've been watching a series on YouTube profiling Nazi leaders. Heinrich Himmler Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbls.
Several of them came from the bureaucracy.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 25, 2021 09:46 AM (cSyAR)

I hear tell Yootoob demonetizes vids that have Nazis in them, cuz they're so committed to thwarting the greatest threat to mankind... white teenage screamo music fans.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 09:53 AM (5ieoM)

315 They will answer that he was a racist, which is the worst thing ever. Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot killed more, but their enemies were (allegedly) selected on the basis of class, which made it okay.

I've had people argue this.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (llXky)


Stalin was just trying to redistribute wealth to help poor people, i.e. his intentions were noble and pure.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 09:53 AM (u/ndq)

316 299 The road to hell is paved with good intentions
Posted by: artemis

The bad part is that good intentions paving costs so much.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 09:48 AM (d9FiS)

And usually involves trillion-dollar federal "stimulus" bills, with the concomitant enormous amounts of grafting and grifting.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 25, 2021 09:54 AM (II3Gr)

317 People wondered how everybody in Germany was a Nazi. It was easy. The Nazis made it mandatory to be a member of the Nazi Party. Wanted to buy food, send your kid to school or have a job? Become a Nazi.

Just like the experimental vaccine.
Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:51 AM (O2L4/)

===
You've got spunk. But that's not really how it worked. Everybody in Germany was not a Nazi.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 25, 2021 09:54 AM (EZebt)

318 >>280 Ask a leftist what did Hitler do that was bad?
The answer can be used to detect androids. Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 25, 2021 09:27 AM (ptq0O)

We call this the "Voight-MeinKampff Test."

Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 09:54 AM (xK9An)

319 Greetings:

307. Who is the author?

Paul Preston

Sorry Sunday am lazy. He's supposed to be one of the current best subject wise.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 25, 2021 09:54 AM (evgyj)

320 Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 09:23 AM (y7DUB)

Churchill admits he thought the Russians meant the same thing he did by "peace", "democracy", " self government". To be sure, it didn't help that Roosevelt was actively dying so all his responses to Churchill's telegrams were actually from the State Department (and we now know that meant actual communists were involved in setting the policy).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 09:55 AM (1lKRm)

321 312 Asabuki Isoko
Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 09:53 AM (AwYPR)


Yes. Did you actually recognize her? "Hey, that's..."

No, don't tell me, I don't want to know.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 09:55 AM (u/ndq)

322 OT, the "Guardians" refers to statues that are found on certain bridges in Cleveland. They're called the Guardians of Traffic. It seems like a lame reference, but it does relate to something specific to Cleveland.

Posted by: PabloD at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (/1eYZ)

323 310 For the record, I think Pope Benedict XVI still reigns for two to three serious reasons.

Ann Barnhardt has excellent material on that.

To clarify re "force out" the Holy Father.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (S9c8K)

324 those are the sources he's hearing from, remember durham unraveled the whole support structure for whitey, none of the politicos went to jail, just some of the field agents like h paul rico, with this whole enterprise, you're dealing with a global affair that involves european as well as american officals company et al,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (hMlTh)

325 So I don't know what to believe.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:49 AM (AwPyG)

---
That's why I stopped following the news. Stuff happens, and we deal with it. Better not to worry about what might happen because so many of the predictions have been wrong.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (llXky)

326 Most of my reading this week has been short pieces: fiction and essays. The collections of short stories edited by Richard Polt of the Typosphere OM mentioned in the post continues to be outstanding.

I've been going through my accumulation of manual typewriters to see which ones I prefer to use for hammering out essays on whatever topic grabs my attention. It has been a LOT of fun. At the moment, the favorite is an Underwood Rhythm Touch from 1950. It's a standard machine and weighs about 40 pounds. It shows some use over the last 71 years but functions as well as the day it came from the factory. The current runner up is an Olympia SM4 from the late 50s. It's a portable and only weighs about 20 pounds.

Researching the various models, their growing popularity and the history of manual typewriters has been enjoyable and eye opening. Given the skill needed to design, manufacture and assemble these mechanical marvels, the cost of one today would be many thousands of dollars. They weren't inexpensive in their day but the users could count on decades of trouble-free use. That 'built to last' attitude is part of their appeal.

Posted by: JTB at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (7EjX1)

327 Jackie Mason can tell all the Sinatra/Farrow jokes he wants now, without getting his legs broken.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (AwYPR)

328 Several of them came from the bureaucracy.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 25, 2021 09:46 AM (cSyAR)
===
And returned to the bureaucracy after.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (EZebt)

329 I've had people argue this.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 09:43 AM (llXky)

At the end of his life Stalin became very anti Semitic and had plans for a Jewish purge, He died before he could implement it and the plans were abandoned.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 25, 2021 09:57 AM (pnA/u)

330 It's alleged that the Obama administration also played a role. As Zero is a communist, I'm inclined to believe it.
Posted by: callsign claymore at July 25, 2021 09:52 AM (S9c8K)

So do I and I thought so at the time

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:57 AM (ONvIw)

331 Think the Vatican is a bank.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2021 09:57 AM (Hk1yf)

332
'dat is Yoko Ono !

now what do I win?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 25, 2021 09:57 AM (bTQ72)

333 318 Well played, ZOD.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 25, 2021 09:57 AM (S9c8K)

334 Stalin was just trying to redistribute wealth to help poor people, i.e. his intentions were noble and pure.
You are correct, sir! He started with the drastic lead shortage among the kulaks.

Posted by: pep at July 25, 2021 09:58 AM (ZsR3z)

335 @311

you kid, but this is exactly how vigilantism gets started.

I think the main thing that's keeping the powder dry is the fact you get the sense that the left is hoping for just such a reaction, so they can claim another "emergency" upon which to suspend all first amendment rights.

Again.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:58 AM (AwPyG)

336 Yes. Did you actually recognize her? "Hey, that's..."

No, don't tell me, I don't want to know.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 09:55 AM (u/ndq)

Yeah, sure...tennis champ in the 1920s...

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 09:58 AM (AwYPR)

337 And then he discarded them. See: Night of The Long Knives.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2021 09:47 AM (Q9lwr)

Indeed. Hitler was paranoid of being overthrown as much as Stalin. The difference is that Hitler surrounded himself with a small group of generals who were very loyal to him till the very end. Stalin had everyone "purged".

Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:58 AM (m/D5i)

338 OT, the "Guardians" refers to statues that are found on certain bridges in Cleveland. They're called the Guardians of Traffic. It seems like a lame reference, but it does relate to something specific to Cleveland.
Posted by: PabloD at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (/1eYZ)

Man, that it IS lame.

Around St. Louis lots of things are called "Cardinal" this and "Cardinal" that. But that's because the name of the basebol team has been around for over a century. Not the other way round.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 09:58 AM (5ieoM)

339 At the end of his life Stalin became very anti Semitic and had plans for
a Jewish purge, He died before he could implement it and the plans
were abandoned.

Well, you know those Joo doctors and their plots...

Posted by: pep at July 25, 2021 09:59 AM (ZsR3z)

340 Maybe Big James is a big fan of women's tennis.

I never would have guessed a sportswoman, and I didn't

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:59 AM (ONvIw)

341 A famous geisha or actress?

Posted by: Ziba at July 25, 2021 09:59 AM (S1hrL)

342 So I don't know what to believe.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:49 AM (AwPyG)


Nunes is listening to his cow

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2021 10:00 AM (HG00O)

343 OT, the "Guardians" refers to statues that are found on certain bridges
in Cleveland. They're called the Guardians of Traffic. It seems like a
lame reference, but it does relate to something specific to Cleveland.

Still, it beats their second choice, the Cleveland Bollards.

Posted by: pep at July 25, 2021 10:00 AM (ZsR3z)

344 the "Guardians" refers to statues that are found on certain bridges in Cleveland. They're called the Guardians of Traffic. It seems like a lame reference, but it does relate to something specific to Cleveland.
Posted by: PabloD at July 25, 2021 09:56 AM (/1eYZ)

I recommended they be named the Hazards after on of their main statues and designated hero of Cleveland. Oliver Hazard Perry,

Posted by: Just a side note at July 25, 2021 10:00 AM (pnA/u)

345 335 @311

you kid, but this is exactly how vigilantism gets started.

==

yeah, I was kidding
*shifty eyes*

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 10:00 AM (oEn12)

346 Who dis- Madame Chiang Kai-Shek. LOLOLOL





Posted by: sidney at July 25, 2021 09:30 AM (7/kmB)

For some reason thats what popped into my head. No clue if its right or wrong. I just couldn't think of any other Asian lady of any importance in era of that photo. Educated in America, spoke english, had to translate for her husband, and referred to the AVG flying tigers as "her boys".

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 25, 2021 10:00 AM (VwHCD)

347 I thought nazis came out of the woodwork. Same as commies and other cockroaches.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2021 10:00 AM (r4sI4)

348 @322

I see. I'm not sure it helps, though, to name your athletes after statues.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:00 AM (AwPyG)

349 Still, it beats their second choice, the Cleveland Bollards.
Number three, the Cleveland Jersey Barriers, was right out.

Posted by: pep at July 25, 2021 10:01 AM (ZsR3z)

350 Maybe Big James is a big fan of women's tennis.

I never would have guessed a sportswoman, and I didn't

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:59 AM (ONvIw)

Or maybe...he cheated.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 10:01 AM (AwYPR)

351 Although the statues probably play better defense.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:01 AM (AwPyG)

352 the American analogue, is allen dulles, he failed upwards from letting lenin, get away from zurich, then he joined the inquiry, his law firm cadged a whole lot of nazi business, he was sketchy in his behavior during the war from his post in berne,
operation sunrise and the like, and this is where the company got their operational culture from,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 10:01 AM (hMlTh)

353 From the EMT early on was a post by our esteemed Vic that was the Ramirez cartoon. Lately I have seen a few Ramirez cartoons that made me wonder WTF? I have mulled over this cartoon for the last hour into this thread. Anyone else struck by that cartoon?

Posted by: AnnaS at July 25, 2021 10:02 AM (l4l/z)

354 Hitler killed 6,000,000 + Jews. And a lot more like homos, anti-Hitler Germans, French, Poles etc. Add Gypsies and UK SOE women.

But comparing Fauci to Hitler is apt.

Just based on Jews, Fauci and the policies he set and funded have killed almost as many AIDS and COVID-19 Wuhan infected people. If India gives up an accurate death toll, Fauci is 1.3 Hitlers worth.

Remember, after the AIDS epidemic killed 700,000, Fauci was promoted, even though his policies failed utterly.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:02 AM (u82oZ)

355
stalin was not a big tough man


I thought he went into a fetal position and was not seen for 2 weeks after Hitler launched operation barbarosa

stalin was a comunist, which means he is a coward

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 25, 2021 10:03 AM (bTQ72)

356 Paul Preston



Sorry Sunday am lazy. He's supposed to be one of the current best subject wise.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 25, 2021 09:54 AM (evgyj)
---
I didn't consult him for my book, but he seems to be the Standard MK I Republican apologist. (See also Anthony Beevor.)

If you want a book on the Spanish Civil War that I didn't write, Stanley Payne is your go-to guy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 25, 2021 10:03 AM (llXky)

357 Jackie Mason can tell all the Sinatra/Farrow jokes he wants now, without getting his legs broken.
Posted by: BignJames

Can you imagine Jackie, Shecky Greene, Mel Brooks and Buddy Hackett all sitting around a table drinking with you?


Posted by: Tonypete at July 25, 2021 10:03 AM (6WCwE)

358 @300

This is a misreading of what Nunes actually said, he said that he heard the report was coming out and that he had to believe that once it was released people would go to jail.


Nobodies going to jail and if a report actually comes out it will be an even bigger wet fart than the last 5 Horowitz IG reports were.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:04 AM (tScf+)

359 It's a head-scratcher that Devin Nunes, who I think is one of the few straight-shooters, said last week that the Durham report was indeed coming out, and that people would be indicted as a result.
So I don't know what to believe.
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 09:49 AM (AwPyG)
~~~~~

Kash Patel talked about it here:

https://tinyurl.com/2ben54as

"Here's what I tell people that always ask me, "Where's the accountability? Where's the prosecutions?" I say, "Look, let the man finish his job," the man being John Durham."

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2021 10:05 AM (9GRhC)

360 Can you imagine Jackie, Shecky Greene, Mel Brooks and Buddy Hackett all sitting around a table drinking with you?


What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Alan King and Jerry Lewis at July 25, 2021 10:05 AM (ZsR3z)

361 Or maybe...he cheated.
Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 10:01 AM (AwYPR)

Well yeah, but that was up to you to disclose.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:05 AM (ONvIw)

362 Remember, after the AIDS epidemic killed 700,000, Fauci was promoted, even though his policies failed utterly.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:02 AM (u82oZ)

As I am fond of reminding people, Fauci was the chief of the agency when they funded a "study" of AIDS drugs... on infected orphans.

Nobody followed protocols to ensure the children's rights were protected, and so some of them died prematurely, from the drug trials.

Something like 400 kids in the study, I believe, a drop in the bucket for our bespectacled bureaucrat. Nevertheless, the man has been a monster for decades. Any country that treats him like a respected leader is morally bankrupt.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:06 AM (5ieoM)

363 The Guardian as a sports team mascot will be subject to the limitation of statues.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 10:06 AM (Xwt96)

364 What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Alan King and Jerry Lewis

Alan would be welcomed, and sit with, the gang. Jerry - not so much.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 25, 2021 10:07 AM (6WCwE)

365 Can you imagine Jackie, Shecky Greene, Mel Brooks and Buddy Hackett all sitting around a table drinking with you?


Posted by: Tonypete at July 25, 2021 10:03 AM (6WCwE)

You wouldn't be able to swallow your drink.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 10:07 AM (AwYPR)

366 305 People wondered how everybody in Germany was a Nazi. It was easy. The Nazis made it mandatory to be a member of the Nazi Party. Wanted to buy food, send your kid to school or have a job? Become a Nazi.

Just like the experimental vaccine.
Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:51 AM (O2L4/)


The Nazi party was an entity. The majority of Germans were not members but carried out the nazi creed. Most soldiers in the Wehrmacht were not members. Officers were.

It's much like we've seen in DC. Trump was not a member of the party. They had to get rid of him to keep the hierarchy pure. The party rules.

The same goes for the communist party.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 25, 2021 10:07 AM (Fs5vw)

367 "Here's what I tell people that always ask me, "Where's the accountability? Where's the prosecutions?" I say, "Look, let the man finish his job," the man being John Durham."
Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2021 10:05 AM (9GRhC)

That would be fine, if it were not for the four preceding years of nonsense and the refusal to even go after antifa and BLM. The JArndyce and Jarndyce pace is leacing me to believe they're just running the clock.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:08 AM (ONvIw)

368 When I was a kid I was kind of obsessive about reading series in order of internal chronology. Now that I'm grown, I prefer to read them in the order they were written.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 25, 2021 10:08 AM (QZxDR)

369 I never would have guessed a sportswoman, and I didn't
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 09:59 AM (ONvIw)


I thought it was an appropriate choice, what with the Tokyo Olympics starting up this weekend and all.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 10:09 AM (u/ndq)

370 @359

I work in construction so I'm well acquainted with a contractor milking a job for all it's worth but damn nobody can milk a job better than John Durham.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:09 AM (tScf+)

371 Muldoon

Groan.

How is the drought treating you. We hear bad stuff is happening in CO. Here in Kansas, the corn farmers choose ... poorly. But the wheat harvest went well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:09 AM (u82oZ)

372 Jackie Mason can tell all the Sinatra/Farrow jokes he wants now, without getting his legs broken.
Posted by: BignJames

Can you imagine Jackie, Shecky Greene, Mel Brooks and Buddy Hackett all sitting around a table drinking with you?


Posted by: Tonypete at July 25, 2021 10:03 AM (6WCw

Jackie Mason will always be the cartoon aardvark to me.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 25, 2021 10:10 AM (pnA/u)

373
Nobodies going to jail and if a report actually comes out it will be an even bigger wet fart than the last 5 Horowitz IG reports were.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:04 AM (tScf+)

I tend to agree. If Sessions/Rosenstein/BArr didn't prosecute any of these donk miscreants, I have no belief in the idea that Garland will.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:10 AM (ONvIw)

374 You've got spunk. But that's not really how it worked. Everybody in Germany was not a Nazi.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 25, 2021 09:54 AM (EZebt)


No, that is true, you could be a member of the opposition party. That meant in certain branches of the service you would not get that Fuhrer's Christmas gift, and promotions were harder.

it was doubly true after the war when everyone claimed they were not Nazi. One old guy commented, "when the Americans came everyone said they weren't Nazis. Our family was, it turned out the only Nazi's in Germany were me and Adolf, if only we could have had a talk!"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2021 10:10 AM (HG00O)

375 I thought he went into a fetal position and was not seen for 2 weeks after Hitler launched operation barbarosa

stalin was a comunist, which means he is a coward
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 25, 2021 10:03 AM (bTQ72)

Basically, yeah. And given the system he set up, their defenses were not able to respond with any sort of effectiveness, because they would have had to wait around for his direction.

They say Stalin may have poisoned Lenin near the end, and I kinda hope that's true. It's also speculated that Stalin was done in too, but I don't think there's much evidence of that. The guy was able to die peacefully, more or less, in his own bed.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:10 AM (5ieoM)

376 I thought it was an appropriate choice, what with the Tokyo Olympics starting up this weekend and all.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 10:09 AM (u/ndq)

It was a very good one and too tough for me.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:11 AM (ONvIw)

377 the SA notably the esser wing, had a whole lot of lefties in their ranks, their liquidation was the promise given at the hartzberg conference with industrialists, the ss was more professionally minded, more middle class

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 10:11 AM (hMlTh)

378 @367

The corruption is on such a scale that only one member of congress is unhappy that witnesses are openly lying to congress.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:11 AM (AwPyG)

379 Wrong. The Nazis that tried to overthrow the German government in 1923 (Beer Hall Putsch) were mostly a gang of unemployed amateurs that used to be the working class. After the failed coup and spending time in jail, Hitler started recruiting pros as brownshirts, namely former police officers.
Posted by: Federal Agent #PiSquared2 at July 25, 2021 09:37 AM (6qlAy)


I think you're confusing the muscle used to make a name for themselves with how the people at the top viewed themselves as an unmongrelized cultural elite.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 10:12 AM (y7DUB)

380 This is a misreading of what Nunes actually said, he said that he heard the report was coming out and that he had to believe that once it was released people would go to jail.


Nobodies going to jail and if a report actually comes out it will be an even bigger wet fart than the last 5 Horowitz IG reports were.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:04 AM (tScf+)


Right. The report isn't going to "indict" anyone. That's up to the AG/DOJ and there's no way the Biden/Obama cartel currently in charge of both offices are going to do anything.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 25, 2021 10:12 AM (u/ndq)

381 How is the drought treating you. We hear bad stuff is happening in CO. Here in Kansas, the corn farmers choose ... poorly. But the wheat harvest went well.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:09 AM (u82oZ)

I think the Colorado drought is roughly the equivalent of east coast shark attacks.

Yes, it's happening, but it's a thing people like to talk about, more than it being a thing worth talking about.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:13 AM (5ieoM)

382 You've got spunk. But that's not really how it worked. Everybody in Germany was not a Nazi.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 25, 2021 09:54 AM (EZebt)


the incentives to be a party member were enormous: social, political, economic, and legal.

There is a lovely quote by Rothbard (that I can't remember fully) that says that people are not actually supporting the political process when their participation is solely based on self -defense and self preservation.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2021 10:13 AM (HG00O)

383 @373

If anyone was going to be prosecuted it would have had to happen 3 years ago, that ship has sailed, in fact it never left dock.

Its all bullshit, nothing was ever going to happen.

And at the pace the junta is wrecking things we may not even have a country by 2024.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:14 AM (tScf+)

384 If you missed my link yesterday of many French city protesters
Here it is again
https://tinyurl.com/w3rps3y8

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 10:14 AM (Cxk7w)

385 How is the drought treating you. We hear bad stuff is happening in CO. Here in Kansas, the corn farmers choose ... poorly. But the wheat harvest went well.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

******

Hey Salty-
Not feeling any drought here in the mountains, one our wettest years in a long time. It's rained probably 7 out of 10 days for the past 1-1/2 to 2 months. I can't speak to the situation on the eastern Plains part of the state. Western CO is dry and hot.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 10:15 AM (Xwt96)

386 Thank you for that SMH! I miss Pompeo.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:15 AM (dYrVA)

387 Stalin loved the music of Maria Yudina, a pianist who wore a cross, promoted political prisoners, and otherwise violated the new Soviet protocols.

He demanded a recording of her, so his men kidnapped her, and took her to a studio to record a record in the middle of the night.

The story is he was playing that record when he died.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:16 AM (AwPyG)

388 Western CO is dry and hot.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 10:15 AM (Xwt96)

Why, it's almost like it's a desert or something.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:16 AM (5ieoM)

389 Mueller could have brought charges, why not this Special Counsel? Not special enough or not really hired to do that?

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:17 AM (ONvIw)

390 Stop supporting law enforcement, you idiot conservatives. They will put you in a gulag if democrats order them to while kneeling to black lives matter!

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at July 25, 2021 10:17 AM (5bp/r)

391 I juat Rapinoe to lose humiliatingly
and possibly loise her shit publicly
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 09:20 AM (oEn12)


Rapinoe has become the face of a progressive movement for that sport and she will forever be linked to that sport's decline.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2021 10:18 AM (YGzpk)

392 They say Stalin may have poisoned Lenin near the end, and I kinda hope that's true.

Lenin had at least one massive stroke that ended his ability to push back against anything Koba wanted to do. Stalin being a sick piece of shit thoroughly enjoyed that.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 10:19 AM (y7DUB)

393 BurtTC & Muldoon

Thanks.

Thinking of driving around before the COMoMeet. Maybe the Indian Peaks ares. I think I have aged out of hiking even Humboldt Peak.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:19 AM (u82oZ)

394 the SA notably the esser wing, had a whole lot of lefties in their ranks, their liquidation was the promise given at the hartzberg conference with industrialists, the ss was more professionally minded, more middle class
Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 25, 2021 10:11 AM (hMlTh)

I believe Himmler was formerly a Marxist. Or was that Goebbels ?

Posted by: Just a side note at July 25, 2021 10:20 AM (pnA/u)

395 Western CO is dry and hot.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 10:15 AM (Xwt96)

Yes, it's getting old. Humid like I haven't seen since I've been here for 46 yrs, but no rain in my AO. We're due for a hard winter. We may have to wait a few years for it to cycle through.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:21 AM (dYrVA)

396 Along with the short pieces about typewriters, I dug out my better copy of Montaigne's Essays. I wish I could read that period's French well enough but will have to make due with translations. I love the idea of Montaigne setting aside rooms just for his reading and writing. I wonder if that is what inspired Thomas Jefferson when he designed parts of Monticello.

Posted by: JTB at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (7EjX1)

397 BurtTC & Muldoon

Thanks.

Thinking of driving around before the COMoMeet. Maybe the Indian Peaks ares. I think I have aged out of hiking even Humboldt Peak.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:19 AM (u82oZ)

Keep an eye on I-70 closures. Mudslides through Glenwood Canyon are causing frequent problems, and I think it is closed right now.

If you have to detour off 70, the route is VERY long.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (5ieoM)

398 Just based on Jews, Fauci and the policies he set and funded have killed almost as many AIDS and COVID-19 Wuhan infected people. If India gives up an accurate death toll, Fauci is 1.3 Hitlers worth.

Remember, after the AIDS epidemic killed 700,000, Fauci was promoted, even though his policies failed utterly.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:02 AM (u82oZ)


And I'll ask you. Where are you getting your stats? The CDC? WHO? Why are you suddenly believing governmentally prepared stats?

I don't think the Wuflu has killed a fraction of the people that governments say it's killing.

This is why we're losing.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (Fs5vw)

399 But as in Gulag Archipelago the minute Stalin passed into Hell many of his minions followed him. In the book Zeks thought it would be freedom for all, but no the Gulags system stayed the same.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (Cxk7w)

400 @380

Yes, and this why people used to give a certain class of commenters rations of shit.

Dude we know how this shit works, we don't have to read dense esoteric reports or sit through ponderous boring testimony where the actors on one side play act tough guys and the actors on the other side lies and lies and lies with no consequence.

I'm over that shit. I was over that shit 3 years ago.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (tScf+)

401 Another thing I wanted to read were the letters of some of the Romantic poets like Coleridge, Byron, and Shelley. Picking up the idea of Barfield, it must be that he understood Coleridge's philosophy via more than Rime of the Ancient MAriner and Kubla Khan.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (ONvIw)

402 @391

But Subway sandwiches, having just recovered from having a pedophile-spokesman, decided to make her their new spokesman.

Maybe these people really are stupid.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (AwPyG)

403 Yes, it's getting old. Humid like I haven't seen since I've been here for 46 yrs, but no rain in my AO. We're due for a hard winter. We may have to wait a few years for it to cycle through.
Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:21 AM (dYrVA)

I noticed the humidity this past week, but we're supposedly in a monsoon season now. Which just means it clouds over, then the sky sorta spits at you.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:23 AM (5ieoM)

404 I warned you about Magic Mountain! Why didn't you listen?

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 25, 2021 10:24 AM (QZxDR)

405
I don't think the Wuflu has killed a fraction of the people that governments say it's killing.

This is why we're losing.
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (Fs5vw)

I don't think we know. Surely the CCP is holding back stats. Either this is an op or the tru nature of the virus is being hidden and Chinese Lung Aids is closer to the truth.

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:24 AM (ONvIw)

406 As a native east coaster, Colorado is virtually desert

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2021 10:24 AM (Cxk7w)

407 If you have to detour off 70, the route is VERY long.
Posted by: BurtTC

Yes, I'm hoping it's open by the mome or I won't be able to make it.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:24 AM (dYrVA)

408 >>But Subway sandwiches, having just recovered from having a pedophile-spokesman, decided to make her their new spokesman. Maybe these people really are stupid. Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (AwPyG)

...which is especially odd for "Eat Fresh!" given that she looks like she was embalmed about four days ago.

Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 10:26 AM (xK9An)

409 "Eat Jaundiced!"

Posted by: ZOD at July 25, 2021 10:27 AM (xK9An)

410 BurtTC

I had not heard that. Maybe I'll go else where. The Spanish Peaks and their dikes were always an eye-catcher.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:27 AM (u82oZ)

411 I don't think we know. Surely the CCP is holding back stats. Either this is an op or the tru nature of the virus is being hidden and Chinese Lung Aids is closer to the truth.
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:24 AM (ONvIw)

I do think it's possible governments around the world know something they're not telling us.

That, or they really are fascist monsters. Australia just closed down again, there was a video posted yesterday, a news report, saying something like a hundred or so people have tested positive, and 1 person died, a guy in his 80s. So the whole country is shutting down.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:28 AM (5ieoM)

412 "The Spanish Peaks and their dikes were always an eye-catcher."

Is that prison lingo?

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:28 AM (AwPyG)

413 Not about books, but whatever. I sprained or broke my ankle yesterday... I'll find out which tomorrow at the doctor. But I used to get ankle injuries from real stuff, like playing rugby. This was from... Stepping off a curb at a freaking mall. Getting old is super stupid.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM (JN3xP)

414
I don't think we know. Surely the CCP is holding back stats. Either this is an op or the tru nature of the virus is being hidden and Chinese Lung Aids is closer to the truth.
Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 10:24 AM (ONvIw)


All I know is what I see. I didn't see a pandemic. Did you? All I saw was a normal flu season with it's usual victims and death tolls.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM (Fs5vw)

415 Is gorilla dust like gorilla glue?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM (JUOKG)

416 BurtTC

I had not heard that. Maybe I'll go else where. The Spanish Peaks and their dikes were always an eye-catcher.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:27 AM (u82oZ)

There's plenty to see without needing to use 70 as your main route. If you are going south of the interstate, everything around U.S. 24 is worth seeing.

Except Aspen. Aspen can go to heck.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM (5ieoM)

417 I wonder if that is what inspired Thomas Jefferson when he designed parts of Monticello.

Posted by: JTB at July 25, 2021 10:22 AM (7EjX1)

I play Elder Scrolls Online and "endgame" is to buy various houses and furnish them through crafted items and achievement awards. I've noticed that my houses all end up with bookcases everywhere and comfortable reading areas with a chair and side table that holds a drink, a snack, a light, and a book. I begin to suspect that says something about my habits.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:32 AM (1lKRm)

418 Getting old is super stupid.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM (JN3xP)

It sure is. I have this stupid habit of, when I sit down into a chair with arms, I sorta lift up with my arms to more properly plant my seat in the seat.

Last week I kinked my neck and shoulders doing that. And then when I sit down at work, I STILL do it. Freakin' injured... from sitting down.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:34 AM (5ieoM)

419 @411

As has been said, the virus was real everything else is bullshit.

The virus, as most respiratory viruses are, is deadly to a very specific population. This virus was very infectious because it is a manipulated virus and was designed so and so it affected a very specific population very badly.

I work in construction and have an acquaintance pool of roughly 5000 people, if this virus was super deadly to a general population it would have severely impacted the construction industry.

It had zero effect on the construction industry which never shut down.

Again, this was all bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:34 AM (tScf+)

420 Is gorilla dust like gorilla glue?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM (JUOKG)

Primate angel dust.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2021 10:34 AM (YNtR8)

421 I busted my ankle right in front of a Subway. Figures..and yeah, it does seem like their marketing department is just dead set on having a weird looking sex pervert for a spokesman.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2021 10:35 AM (JN3xP)

422 I play Elder Scrolls Online and "endgame" is to buy various houses and furnish them through crafted items and achievement awards. I've noticed that my houses all end up with bookcases everywhere and comfortable reading areas with a chair and side table that holds a drink, a snack, a light, and a book. I begin to suspect that says something about my habits.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:32 AM (1lKRm)

No liquor cabinet?

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 10:35 AM (AwYPR)

423 @414

It's very similar to the comment upthread about the Colorado "drought". The news tells us of a catastrophe, and the people there all say on social media that there's no such thing.

Very similar to how California is always a wild fire inferno.
Or the India covid crisis from a few months ago--everyone on social media said they were "lucky" since it didn't seem to be affecting them, until people started realizing it wasn't affecting anyone, and was largely made-up

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:35 AM (AwPyG)

424 I don't know why they picked her -- she's rather picky about her footlongs.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 25, 2021 10:36 AM (vuisn)

425 The Spanish Peaks and their dikes were always an eye-catcher.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

******

There's a real nice out-and-back hike from the trailhead at the top of Cordova Pass that goes out onto the shoulder of West Spanish Peak. If you are feeling jaunty you can continue on to the summit. Or make a shorter hike. Walsenburg to La Veta to Cuchara, turn left at the top of Cuchara and continue ~8-10 miles to top of Cordova Pass. Or you can get to it off I-25 at Aguilera.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 10:37 AM (Xwt96)

426 All I know is what I see. I didn't see a pandemic.
Did you? All I saw was a normal flu season with it's usual victims and
death tolls.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM

Same here. Our County of 35,000 had 109 people they say died from covid giving us a covid death rate of 0.003%. We lose more people every year from the flu than that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 25, 2021 10:37 AM (JUOKG)

427 202 Was that our white guy team?Posted by Jean at July 25
one white guy and the white coach who is ashamed to be whiteposted by Nevergiveup

With an assistant coach who wants to ban Americans from owning guns because the Hezbollah used guns to assassinate his father

Posted by: Peter (My friends call me Pete) Zah at July 25, 2021 10:37 AM (jVHiJ)

428 You also never lost the ability to have food served to you through a window by an illegal immigrant or go to Home Depot to pick potting soul.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:38 AM (tScf+)

429 @419

Yes, one of the "tells" was that the construction workers just carried on like nothing was happening. No masks, no nothing.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:38 AM (AwPyG)

430 Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 10:35 AM (AwYPR)

Nope, they're available but it didn't occur to me to use one. My wine glasses and beer steins just fill magically I guess.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:38 AM (1lKRm)

431 "...turn left at the top of Cuchara Pass" that should have read.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 10:38 AM (Xwt96)

432 BurtTC

I like the Sangre de Cristo Mountains a lot. And went partway up Uncompahgre Mountain in the San Juans.
I have big lung issues after a fire in the Navy. Bad day at work. So less oxygen hits me hard.

Maybe just the approaches to East Spanish Peak for now. It is a prominent summit.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:38 AM (u82oZ)

433 This was from... Stepping off a curb at a freaking mall. Getting old is super stupid.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM (JN3xP)

Damn! Hope you heal up YD!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2021 10:39 AM (R/m4+)

434 TBF... Colorado has a really varied climate. Much of the state is suffering a bad drought right now, but the Denver area is fine. And people in Denver metro think they're the only people in CO, so I'm sure they're all saying there's no drought.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2021 10:39 AM (JN3xP)

435 I play Elder Scrolls Online and "endgame" is to buy
various houses and furnish them through crafted items and achievement
awards. I've noticed that my houses all end up with bookcases everywhere
and comfortable reading areas with a chair and side table that holds a
drink, a snack, a light, and a book. I begin to suspect that says
something about my habits.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:32 AM (1lKRm)

I used to do that in Morrowind and Skyrym. I would collect books through out the game and pack all the shelves and make libraries. Also weapons rooms, had to have those. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 25, 2021 10:39 AM (VwHCD)

436 423 @414

It's very similar to the comment upthread about the Colorado "drought". The news tells us of a catastrophe, and the people there all say on social media that there's no such thing.

Very similar to how California is always a wild fire inferno.
Or the India covid crisis from a few months ago--everyone on social media said they were "lucky" since it didn't seem to be affecting them, until people started realizing it wasn't affecting anyone, and was largely made-up
Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:35 AM (AwPyG)

I have a feeling there are propagandists, in their various propaganda offices, who come up with words they want on the public's lips, and every time someone says "Delta variant," whoever came up with the term gets a bonus and a handy from the hooker of his/her choice.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:40 AM (5ieoM)

437 "Getting old is super stupid."

Beats the alternative

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:40 AM (AwPyG)

438 Muldoon

I'll look at my topos and start planning. Thanks.
I need to walk more, with a weighted backpack.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:40 AM (u82oZ)

439 Mao in drag

Posted by: HUNTER at July 25, 2021 10:40 AM (YK4Qh)

440 Call me crazy, but Who Dis? looks more Slavic than Japanese. Not that I have the slightest clue who she is.

Posted by: Muldoon


Once t'was a moron named Muldoon,
Who, alas, was a certified loon ...
Crazy thoughts, he did write,
For edification and delight.
Ah well maybe we'll get the real answer sometime soon.

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic ... at July 25, 2021 10:40 AM (okV1R)

441 Is gorilla dust on wigs a thing?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2021 10:41 AM (YGzpk)

442 don't know wuts worse

me smoking crack or my dad smoking my crack ?

Posted by: HUNTER at July 25, 2021 10:42 AM (YK4Qh)

443 @436

If you look at Alex Jones (?) or @johnisheretohelp--I wish I could remember, it was pretty recent--they had a program showing the left's playbook for the covid pandemic, including the rise of the "delta" variant. The playbook was from years and years ago.

Very damning

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:43 AM (AwPyG)

444 The new thing they are pushing is the claim that the average life span has dropped by one year due to the pandemic.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 25, 2021 10:43 AM (pnA/u)

445 "Who dis?"

Anna Chennault?

Posted by: NCC at July 25, 2021 10:44 AM (PycON)

446 Charlie Chan?
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 25, 2021 08:43 AM (QZxDR)

It's Fu Manchu, in one of his fiendishly clever disguises.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2021 10:44 AM (NyVQm)

447 TBF... Colorado has a really varied climate. Much of the state is suffering a bad drought right now, but the Denver area is fine. And people in Denver metro think they're the only people in CO, so I'm sure they're all saying there's no drought.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2021 10:39 AM (JN3xP)

If you are a farmer, you might be "suffering" from a drought. If you aren't, you ain't. My experience has been Front Range douchebags are the ones who talk loudest about the drought.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:44 AM (5ieoM)

448 It's Miso's tightassed relative

Aint Horny

Posted by: REDACTED at July 25, 2021 10:45 AM (YK4Qh)

449 @429

Large scale commercial projects in most locales required masks and other PPE, but being as masks don't do shit to protect against viral transmission in a general population, even if they did, the work force density and timelines for completion would render them substantially innefective.

If you havent seen trades racing to substantial completion on a commercial project, it's a thing to behold.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:45 AM (tScf+)

450 I'll look at my topos and start planning. Thanks.
I need to walk more, with a weighted backpack.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

*****

I had forgotten about your lung issues. Cordova Pass trailhead is at 11,248 feet elev. The summit of West Peak is 13,626'. That's getting pretty thin.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2021 10:46 AM (Xwt96)

451 Who dis?? Pshaw. It's Madame Butterfly with a surprise!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 25, 2021 10:46 AM (jvt6t)

452 @372 --

John Byner voiced the aardvark -- and the ant.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 10:47 AM (Om/di)

453 Have a great day, everyone.

Looking at topo maps is not reading, but I do have guides to both 14teeners and 13teeners in CO. So I gots that.

I'll use them in conjunction.

May you all have fireworks in your life.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 25, 2021 10:47 AM (u82oZ)

454 When he was married to Carrie Fischer, Paul Simon wrote a nice little song about "one and one-half jews" wandering through the Sangre de Cristo Mountains

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:47 AM (AwPyG)

455
Tokyo Rose??

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 25, 2021 10:47 AM (bTQ72)

456 If you havent seen trades racing to substantial completion on a commercial project, it's a thing to behold.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:45 AM (tScf+)

There are houses being built all around here. Amazing to look over and see the progress one day to the next.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:48 AM (5ieoM)

457 ""anhedonic" must be the secret double-word score word of the week....that's about the third time I've seen it used here the past couple of days"
...
"Eichmann in Jerusalem"... it's the first heavy reading I've done in quit awhile (real life has been, for me, too depressing to dive into this kind of book)"

I had to look up anhedonic, and thought "gee, maybe that is me". But I have joy in outdoor activity.

So many groups have gone Woke, that "society" is kinda depressing. ... idk about Eichmann's history, but indeed it is people we think are "with us" that destroy us from within. (FBI/GOPe yes, but also many locals and smaller groups, or BRCC type people that play both sides, many churches fully submitted, etc.)

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2021 10:48 AM (Cus5s)

458 Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:47 AM (AwPyG)

Mexico? I don't no nothing about no Mexico....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 25, 2021 10:48 AM (jvt6t)

459 Is gorilla dust on wigs a thing?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2021 10:41 AM (YGzpk)

Yes!

Posted by: Maxine Waters, Professional Looter and Wig Wearer at July 25, 2021 10:48 AM (R/m4+)

460 I'm two thirds of the way through The Dante Club, a murder mystery with Henry Wadsworth Longfellow as the detective. While translating the Divine Comedy, Longfellow realizes a serial killer is using Inferno as a guide for torturing his victims.
As far as The Magic Mountain goes . . . I quit halfway through. One of the most boring things I ever read.

Posted by: Linnet at July 25, 2021 10:48 AM (yy9Ma)

461 Am reading Meditations, Gregory Hays translation. I like it a lot. I'll probably tackle other translations later on. Also still working on an audio book, The Guns of John Moses Browning. It's really a great book. I didn't know much about Browning but this author is a good story teller. And the reader is good too.

Still having to go through books to get rid of, but I keep buying more for some reason.

Posted by: notsothoreau at July 25, 2021 10:49 AM (YynYJ)

462 I sprained or broke my ankle yesterday... I'll find out which tomorrow at the doctor. But I used to get ankle injuries from real stuff, like playing rugby. This was from... Stepping off a curb at a freaking mall. Getting old is super stupid.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2021 10:31 AM (JN3xP)


I used to sprain my ankles all the time playing basketball, stretching the ligaments to the point that my foot would just curl under while walking down the street. I just stopped playing for a while to let them recover; then Nike and other shoe makers had more structural support than those canvas Converse pieces of shit (this was in the 70s). End of problem.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 10:49 AM (y7DUB)

463 If you are a farmer, you might be "suffering" from a drought. If you aren't, you ain't. My experience has been Front Range douchebags are the ones who talk loudest about the drought.
Posted by: BurtTC

And then there is the Big Straw.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:50 AM (dYrVA)

464 My new book last week was The Book of Boro by Susan Briscoe. It's a craft book with history and project patterns for the Japanese mending style known as boro (tattered). My kurtis are starting to get worn and I want to keep using them as long as possible since they are hand embroidered. Also, I have been given a lot of old sheets and towels from my grandparents that I want to turn into useful items so this book is likely to be quite helpful.

Next, I plan on getting Sabrina Chase's new book. I've enjoyed alk of hers that I've read both for the writing and for the excellent jib Anachronda does of proofreading.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:50 AM (1lKRm)

465 Is gorilla dust on wigs a thing?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2021 10:41 AM

On lace wigs gorilla dust is acceptable.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 25, 2021 10:51 AM (JUOKG)

466 If you are a farmer, you might be "suffering" from a drought. If you aren't, you ain't. My experience has been Front Range douchebags are the ones who talk loudest about the drought.
Posted by: BurtTC

And then there is the Big Straw.
Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:50 AM (dYrVA)

Big Straw? Explain please, I am not familiar with the term.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 10:51 AM (5ieoM)

467

All The Long Legeddy Beasties

https://youtu.be/8LQYBXQwD_s

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2021 10:51 AM (63Dwl)

468 @456

Yes because unlike the government, commercial projects have a schedule that is set in stone and fairly iron clad contracts.

You want your pay application approved and funded, you meet those milestones that have been established by you subcontractor contract.

You don't meet those deadlines you are not going to be paid and in if you fuck up real bad your going to get a charge back.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:52 AM (tScf+)

469 OT

-'Tucker Carlson you are the worst human being known to mankind': Moment man confronts Fox News host at Montana fishing store and brands him a 'fascist' over vaccine 'misinformation'


of course the
MT lib hassles Tucker, politics is everything to the Ds
MT dud prolly does not even watch his show

ID and MT libs have to be some of the worst

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 25, 2021 10:54 AM (bTQ72)

470 Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:50 AM (dYrVA)

The water pipeline!

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:55 AM (1lKRm)

471 Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:50 AM (dYrVA)

The water pipeline!
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:55 AM (1lKRm

Blast! That was supposed to be a question.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (1lKRm)

472 Colorado has a really varied climate.

Years ago, probably in the early 90s, we went to dude ranch in Big Thompson Canyon. One of many highlights, including looking down on eagles flying, was having pointed out the various microclimates adjacent to each other on parts of mountains.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (y7DUB)

473 ID and MT libs have to be some of the worst

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 25, 2021 10:54 AM (bTQ72)

Well, most are imports from Cal.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (AwYPR)

474 Very hard to drink a milkshake without a big straw.

Posted by: artemis at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (AwPyG)

475 BurtTC, it was a big water case years ago. The east slope takes water from the west slope. Water is a BFD around here. The derogatory name for the case was the Big Straw, they are sucking water from us.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (dYrVA)

476 428 You also never lost the ability to have food served to you through a window by an illegal immigrant or go to Home Depot to pick potting soul.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 25, 2021 10:38 AM (tScf+)

---------------------------

Careful! Potting soul is how you end up with an Audrey II.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (CAJOC)

477 Rime of the Ancient MAriner

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Submariner? Aaron Burr? Derringer? Done her?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 10:57 AM (d9FiS)

478 471 Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:50 AM (dYrVA)

The water pipeline!
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:55 AM (1lKRm

Blast! That was supposed to be a question.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (1lKRm)

-------------------------

Nothing like a freshly pressed and starched question mark!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 25, 2021 10:57 AM (CAJOC)

479 Here's the only info I can find on Who Dis:

Asabuki Isoko (1889-1985) Showa era poet, 1926 Kanto Tennis Championships women's singles and doubles winner - Japan - 1905

No idea if that's accurate or not. If so, she's 16 years old in that image

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2021 10:58 AM (KZzsI)

480 Back from a constitutional with the lively and athletic Mrs naturalfake-

I noticed a mention of "A Hero of Our Time" and anti-heroes.

If you're a fan of comedic novels with anti-heroes, give my novel : "Wearing the Cat" a whirl.

On dead tree and kindle from Amazon.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2021 10:58 AM (5NkmN)

481 464 My new book last week was The Book of Boro by Susan Briscoe. It's a craft book with history and project patterns for the Japanese mending style known as boro (tattered). My kurtis are starting to get worn and I want to keep using them as long as possible since they are hand embroidered.

==

that sounds like an interesting book

what are kurtis ? are they those tunics that Indian ladies wear?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 10:58 AM (oEn12)

482 -If so, she's 16 years old in that image

to old and not a boy, ick

Posted by: Harry Reid at July 25, 2021 10:59 AM (bTQ72)

483 I want to make a Godzilla size Water Wiggle.

Its infrastructure.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 25, 2021 10:59 AM (ptq0O)

484 Very hard to drink a milkshake without a big straw.

Posted by: artemis


Word !!!

Posted by: Thai Milk Tea Boba ... at July 25, 2021 10:59 AM (okV1R)

485 BurtTC, it was a big water case years ago. The east slope takes water from the west slope. Water is a BFD around here. The derogatory name for the case was the Big Straw, they are sucking water from us.
Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (dYrVA)

Ah, thanks. I know it's been said most famines are caused by politics. I wonder how much one could say the same about droughts.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2021 11:00 AM (5ieoM)

486 Nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 25, 2021 11:01 AM (kTF2Z)

487 Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 10:56 AM (dYrVA)

Having grown up on the east slope I suspect that I have a different view of that particular dispute. The big thing on the Plains wss when one of the Denver suburbs bought a bunch of Weld county farms through intermediaries and took the water granted from their water rights. This means the farms shut down completely and destroyed a couple of small towns.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 11:02 AM (1lKRm)

488 Burt, local hay prices are thru the roof here.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 11:02 AM (dYrVA)

489 481 yes

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

490 ,Stalin loved the music of Maria Yudina, a pianist

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I always thought he had a small pianist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 25, 2021 11:04 AM (d9FiS)

491 Polliwog the ette, Denver is evil incarnate. Exhibit 1 and 2, Polsmoker, Lickenpooper.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2021 11:05 AM (dYrVA)

492 "The Purple-Haired Cooch Cannibal" was Dr. Seuss's least popular book.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 11:05 AM (Dc2NZ)

493 what are kurtis ? are they those tunics that Indian ladies wear?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25,
2021 10:58 AM (oEn12)

Yes. A lot of mine are about 5 years old and have been worn quite a lot so the side seam cloth is getting fragile and the washer or dryer seems to be causing holes in the front or back of the bodice occasionally.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 25, 2021 11:06 AM (1lKRm)

494 *nood

Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2021 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

495 490 ,Stalin loved the music of Maria Yudina, a pianist

==

she's in The Death of Stalin, played by Olga Kurylenko

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2021 11:08 AM (oEn12)

496 "I've gotten strangely bogged down in his translation of Eugene Onegin."
That's not surprising, as Nabokov was emphasizing the literal meaning of the original Russian over the artistry of the meter and rhyme, so there is little poetic movement in the translation. Translations exist that attempt to replicate the Onegin stanza. I can't make a recommendation as I haven't read them. The original is very charming, with occasional surprising depths. The narrative includes some of the earliest fully realized characters in what would become Russian Literature as we know it, the mighty prose fictions of the 19th century. As it translates poorly, Westerners miss out on Russian poetry, which is the core and soul of the literature. Onegin combines the two, a "novel in verse."

Pushkin is like Mozart and Champagne, deft and intoxicating.

Posted by: Brett at July 25, 2021 11:10 AM (oP9aM)

497 I view nood comments as a challenge to keep commenting on the same thread.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 11:27 AM (y7DUB)

498
I thought I WAS the 'internet tough guy', but I have so much competition that I'm gonna retire and open up a slot for a promising youngster from the minors.

Posted by: Sapwolf at July 25, 2021 11:29 AM (S4A66)

499 Hi, Captain Hate! I'm still here.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at July 25, 2021 11:29 AM (OX9vb)

500 Not for long, though, everything is finished cooking for the dogs and I have to go put it all together.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at July 25, 2021 11:31 AM (OX9vb)

501 500 reasons to stick around, April.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 25, 2021 11:32 AM (y7DUB)

502 Actor/comedian Jack Gilford was born on this day in 1908. In addition to numerous movies, TV shows, and commercials for Cracker Jack, he also made this catchy PSA encouraging books and reading:

https://tinyurl.com/yekzf9qs

Posted by: DynamiteDan at July 25, 2021 11:36 AM (355sA)

503 Way late. Who dis looks to me like Margaret Hamilton.

Posted by: From that time at July 25, 2021 11:43 AM (4780s)

504 >>>Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules).

There aren't any wine moms here, are there?

Posted by: m at July 25, 2021 12:23 PM (6dJKT)

505 That last cartoon above: Hemingway.

There, I said it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at July 25, 2021 12:28 PM (4EIFd)

506 One of the great things about being the late, last poster on the Book Thread, is that you don't have to wear pants.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at July 25, 2021 12:29 PM (SwCv8)

507 506 One of the great things about being the late, last poster on the Book Thread, is that you don't have to wear pants.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at July 25, 2021 12:29 PM (SwCv
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Some of us never do!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 12:31 PM (Dc2NZ)

508 How do you cheat on a Who Dis?

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 25, 2021 12:33 PM (Om/di)

509 About the Herriot series of books, I've read them all twice. It's very nice to escape to a *real*, as opposed to fictional, simpler time and place.

I've been unable to develop any enthusiasm for the BBC remake. The earlier actors were much more in touch with the time and place of the books, and it tells in their portrayal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at July 25, 2021 12:34 PM (BvZkh)

510 One of the great things about being the late, last poster on the Book Thread, is that you don't have to wear pants.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at July 25, 2021 12:29 PM (SwCv
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Some of us never do!
Posted by: All Hail Eris
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Hold it...[scrambles into trousers]...you mean others are still here?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at July 25, 2021 12:36 PM (BvZkh)

511 How do you cheat on a Who Dis?
Posted by: Weak Geek
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AI image matching. We do it all of the time.

Posted by: Bob, at the NSA at July 25, 2021 12:37 PM (BvZkh)

512 Isoko Asabuki

Posted by: Bob, at the NSA at July 25, 2021 12:41 PM (SwCv8)

513 How do you cheat on a Who Dis?
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Right Click on the photo, select "search Google for image".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 12:49 PM (Dc2NZ)

514 Right Click on the photo, select "search Google for image".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 25, 2021 12:49 PM (Dc2NZ)

Thanks for the info!

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 01:14 PM (ONvIw)

515
I've been unable to develop any enthusiasm for the BBC remake. The earlier actors were much more in touch with the time and place of the books, and it tells in their portrayal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at July 25, 2021 12:34 PM (BvZkh)

Mostly. I thought the original Helen was too old for the role, but she did a great job with the 1930s feel

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 01:15 PM (ONvIw)

516

If the road to hell is paved with good intentions, what is the road to heaven paved with?

Posted by: Frankly at July 25, 2021 01:18 PM (4a5K+)

517 In preparation for any discussion of CRT at my kids' schools I've been reading utter garbage. Ta-Nehisi Coates' Between the World and Me is awful. I'm stuck at page 107 of How To Be An Anti-Racist by some twerp who calls himself Kendi and lurking on the side of the desk is White Fragility. Life may be too short for lousy books, but... the things you do for your kids.

Posted by: Ben Sears at July 25, 2021 01:19 PM (AQEgU)

518 516: Good thoughts words and deeds, not "intentions", like "from each according to his ability...."

Posted by: CN at July 25, 2021 01:19 PM (ONvIw)

519 That last cartoon above: Hemingway.

Yeah I agree that there are snooty people who show contempt for good books out there but... a lot of what is considered classics simply are not, upon further review

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2021 06:53 PM (KZzsI)

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