More Global Trade Follies Involving China: Shipping Bottlenecks And A Container Shortage

So, have you heard about the massive international shipping crisis coming out of China, and the accompanying shortage of overseas shipping containers?

China shipping: Yantian port delays already worse than those caused by Suez Canal debacle in March.

Disruptions to the supply chain for some companies are said to already be worse than those caused by the six-day blockage of the Suez Canal in March, which made global headlines and spawned countless memes on social media.

How about that? We’re just a few months removed from global shipping being massively interrupted by the Suez Canal blockage, and here we are again, with yet another massive shipping interruption. What’s weird is that most of our corporate and political elites concurred that it was imperative to outsource as much manufacturing and raw material production as possible, yet these stunningly brilliant Principled Free Traders™ never once considered the likelihood or consequences of transportation interruptions.

To be fair, Principled Free Traders™ never considered the implications of political unrest, pandemics, or other external factors either. They never considered the possibility that anything might affect getting products from China to America. Their primary motivation was to assert their status as global citizens, and the best way they knew to do that was to destroy American manufacturing and to put as many deplorable Americans out of work as they could.

Your Christmas shopping this year could be held up by a staggering shipping backlog in China's southern ports.

Bummer. Oh wait, now that I think about it, I’ll be OK. There are several locally owned shops in my town that feature toys, crafts, and clothes that are made right here in the United States. My Christmas shopping should not be affected. It doesn’t look so good for others, however:

Chinese Port Logjam Threatens Christmas Shipping Rush.

At Palmer & Purchase, a boutique women’s clothing and accessories shop in Rye, N.Y., owner Abbie Durkin is trying to ensure that the winter line comes in before the holidays. “It will be a race to get a full range of merchandise by Christmas,” she said.

It’s regrettable that Ms. Durkin finds herself in this situation, but having her financial future be so dependent on China and the Chinese Communist Party carries a lot of risk.

The shipping bottlenecks began in late May when a coronavirus outbreak forced authorities to shut down parts of Guangdong province, which is home to Yantian, one of the world’s busiest ports and a major gateway for containerized exports like electronics, furniture, home appliances and car parts.

Wait. What? A new Coronavirus outbreak in China shut down their major port? In May 2021, well after vaccines were readily available throughout the west?? ABCNNBCBS and the major American newspapers all told me that China had defeated the Coronavirus, and that China was actually a role model in how to do it. In fact, here is a NY Times story praising China on its Covid success story:
NY Times: How China Beat Covid-19 and Revived It’s Economy (Feb 2021)

And guess what - concurrent with the shipping bottlenecks, there is also a global container shortage.
Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained.

Ideally the US should be able to ship wheat to Brazil and import coffee back, without China being a factor at all. Containers used in USA-Brazil trade don’t even need to leave the Atlantic Ocean, so why is China a factor? But of course… China has a virtual monopoly on container manufacturing.

How many containers exist is controlled by China. Virtually every ocean shipping container in the world is built there. Just three Chinese companies account for the majority of production, with Chinese factories now building more than 96% of the world’s dry cargo containers and 100% of the world’s refrigerated containers, according to U.K. consultancy Drewry.

Are shipping containers infrastructure?

Of course, Principled Free Traders™ would lament that China’s 96% market share of dry cargo containers is less than the 100% they’d prefer. But they can at least be happy that China controls 100% of refrigerated container manufacturing. It’s reassuring to know that “global free trade” occurs only to the extant that China allows it to occur, isn’t it?

By the way, isn’t the beauty of outsourcing manufacturing jobs supposed to be that the additional cost of shipping products across the globe is still cheaper than paying for labor here in our own country, which also provides consumers with low prices? Not now. Cheap furniture and toys could soon get much more expensive as retailers are hit by rising shipping costs.

"You simply can't survive on this," [Alan Murphy of Sea-Intelligence] told Bloomberg. "Someone is bleeding very hard."
“According to shipping expert Simon Sundboell from eeSea, Nike would have paid $2,000 for a 40-foot container pre-pandemic. Today, it could be paying as much as $20,000 for that same-sized vessel, Sundboell said.

Boo. Hoo.

I’ve got a simple idea that can mitigate a whole lot of these problems. Products that are to be sold in the USA can also be manufactured in the USA. Once manufactured, they won’t be impacted by exotic new virus outbreaks in China, or by a lack of Chinese containers, or by backups in Chinese ports, or even by the ick factor of China’s slave labor.

Even if manufacturing is simply moved from China to other countries, it is way past time to disengage from China.

(buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com)

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 03:38 PM

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1 China owns us.
We are fucked.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 08, 2021 02:38 PM (vBO1h)

2 First?

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 08, 2021 02:38 PM (qe5CM)

3 well done, nurse!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 08, 2021 02:39 PM (qe5CM)

4 Nice to see Nike getting hosed.

Posted by: 496 at July 08, 2021 02:39 PM (U1eOr)

5 Oh noes! Nike will lose money! But they can always buy more slaves to pick up the slack.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 02:40 PM (L2ZTs)

6 I called the otters.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 08, 2021 02:40 PM (vBO1h)

7 Step 1. Establish a monopoly by undercutting all viable competition
Step 2. Raise prices
Step 3. Profit

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 02:40 PM (z5Vrg)

8 Sooo, how's that global economy working out for everybody?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 08, 2021 02:41 PM (HaL55)

9 Covid logjam.

Posted by: BignJames at July 08, 2021 02:41 PM (AwYPR)

10

I read somewhere today that BMW has surpassed Mercedes and Audi? in sales because their production of key components are made in the US and Mexico.

heh.

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 08, 2021 02:41 PM (9VFzC)

11 Man, Nike losing money and Avenatti going to prison for trying to extort Nike? How rare when both sides so deserve to lose, and then both do.

Posted by: Broseidon at July 08, 2021 02:41 PM (v61ip)

12 Beijing flexing muscles under the guise of another outbreak. Thus proving who's the boss.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 08, 2021 02:42 PM (EAHHK)

13 The Port of Seattle was dead for the first 6-8 months of covid.

Just now getting back to normal traffic.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 08, 2021 02:42 PM (vBO1h)

14 "So, have you heard about the massive international shipping crisis"

Why yes, I do read ZH. Thanks for asking!

Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at July 08, 2021 02:42 PM (qpX6U)

15 Went to Home Depot to get a metal shelf the other day. They had almost nothing, that entire section was nearly empty including the display stuff. All of that stuff comes from china.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 08, 2021 02:42 PM (JUOKG)

16 These shortages seem, I dunno, regularly spaced out? Planned, even?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 08, 2021 02:43 PM (KZzsI)

17 artisinal, I thought BMW owned Audi.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (L2ZTs)

18 There is way too much money tied up in China. A lot of that money comes from financial institutions and other Wall Street firms that support Biden and the Democrats. You will never see manufacturers move back here as you did with Trump. In fact they want to reverse those gains. It's all about the Benjamin's and these forms stand to lose hundreds of millions if we create more jobs and manufacturing here. CoC Republicans are in on this too. They talk a good game, but the only action taken is when Trump imposed tariffs and other measures. Congress did virtually nothing except blabber.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (Fdwku)

19 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (Zz0t1)

20 Worse than those physical jobs never coming back, guess what the remaining companies figured out when the government shut them down and made them figure out how employees could work off-site?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (ia0+L)

21 When JIT Feevah hit a couple of decades ago, those of us who actually understood how economies worked knew it was designed to fail when scaled up. Somehow the eggheads who dreamed this up never accounted for things like bad weather, political unrest and stuff like that there.

It works in small areas, but that's about it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (HaL55)

22 Let's get China out of our life.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (mR6Gs)

23 Meh. The only thing I do for Christmas is burn a holiday CD for my ever-shrinking group of "friends." Supply chains and bottlenecks don't bother me.

But I suppose I should lay in a supply of Veuve, since I want to celebrate my impending retirement.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2021 02:45 PM (2JVJo)

24 Chyna is asshoe.

Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 02:45 PM (F0YaR)

25 Oh no, Nike won't be able to sponsor as many activists at the Olympics.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 08, 2021 02:45 PM (uhPTO)

26 Been avoiding Chinese stuff for a while now. It is both easier and harder than I thought it would be. Since I'm a thrifter, clothes made in China may be bought secondhand, which solves some difficulties. Why Aldi has to get jarred minced garlic from China, I'll never understand.

Posted by: Catherine at July 08, 2021 02:45 PM (v2Nu6)

27

Buy American pussy! No yellow!

Posted by: Hunter Bidet at July 08, 2021 02:45 PM (Qt80h)

28 My son works for a major food retailer in MN, Cub Foods. He tells me they get in 70% of what they order.

Which I find interesting, because food is supposed to be relatively local, is it not?

Oh, and by the way, recycling all of those shipping containers that made a one way voyage across the sea over the last few decades is probably looking like a pretty good idea, about now.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 02:45 PM (2SdPm)

29 17 artisinal, I thought BMW owned Audi.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (L2ZTs)
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Pull back the curtain and they are all VWs.

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM (ElqsY)

30 These shortages seem, I dunno, regularly spaced out? Planned, even?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 08, 2021 02:43 PM (KZzsI)

They didn't happen until 6 months ago. I keep reminding my wife that shortages aren't normal here. We're being told that they are, but we're being gaslighted... There shouldn't be gas shortages. There shouldn't be beef shortages. The list goes on and on.

I'm doing my best to push back on the crap we're being force fed (and she reads on Facebook every damn day).

Posted by: 496 at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM (U1eOr)

31 I think both wheat and coffee remain commodities that are shipped in bulk mode. Can't imagine containerizing them. Could be wrong, been a while since I was in touch with the business for work reasons.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM (OTzUX)

32 Went to Home Depot to get a metal shelf the other day. They had almost nothing, that entire section was nearly empty including the display stuff. All of that stuff comes from china.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 08, 2021 02:42 PM (JUOKG)

***

I shopped for a metal building last month. The lady at the mom and pop business told me to go ahead and get my down payment in before the 1st because she had been told by the manufacturer that prices were going up 30% after that date.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM (ia0+L)

33 Audi, VW, and Porsche are together. And they own Bugatti and Lamborghini.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM (EAHHK)

34

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM (K2SnJ)

35 Even a lot of made in the USA products use internationally sourced materials. So, China

Posted by: brak at July 08, 2021 02:47 PM (UEc6S)

36 As much as I enjoyed listening to Dr. Walter E. Williams when he subbed for Rush back in the day, has shilling for foreign outsourcing of goods and services really grated on me. We're now seeing the logical conclusion of that mindset--utter dependence upon an oppressive, diseased shithole. Yay.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 08, 2021 02:47 PM (DTX3h)

37 2 days ago in the Detroit News

BMW dodges chip shortage to seize sales lead in U.S. luxury market

Detroit News
2d

chips made in Taiwan hurting Chy kna sales...

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 08, 2021 02:47 PM (9VFzC)

38 What's weird is that most of our corporate and political elites concurred that it was imperative to outsource as much manufacturing and raw material production as possible, yet these stunningly brilliant Principled Free Trader never once considered the likelihood or consequences of transportation interruptions.
---

Most of them figured they'd collect huge money now, and when/if TSHTF they'd be in cushy new jobs or have golden parachutes and they'd never be held to account in any meaningful way.

I've yet to see that they were wrong in that estimation.

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 02:47 PM (Ojki1)

39 A lot of food products are processed in China even if the actual food itself is grown elsewhere. Slave labor, ya know.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 08, 2021 02:47 PM (KAi1n)

40 "Think globally, act locally" seems to have taken on a whole new meaning. I agree with Buck the T, it's way past time to abandon this globalista bullshit and start making the things we use here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 08, 2021 02:47 PM (HaL55)

41 I don't buy food from China or Turkey.

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 02:48 PM (ElqsY)

42 6 I called the otters.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 08, 2021 02:40 PM (vBO1h)

Not the dirty river ones I hope.

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 02:48 PM (Ojki1)

43 VW group owns several brands, but not BMW.

The fact that BMW assembles some of its SUVs here in the US could give it an advantage, but I thought Mercedes did the same.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 08, 2021 02:48 PM (uhPTO)

44 Audi, VW, and Porsche are together. And they own Bugatti and Lamborghini.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM (EAHHK)

Like Hitler and Mussolini's "Pact of Steel."

Literally.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 02:49 PM (mR6Gs)

45 Remind me when we had shortages with US manufacturer's and when they did occur how long they took to resolve. The big lie is this is part of a normal cycle. The only cycle it's part of is slavery and despotism.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 02:49 PM (Fdwku)

46

UPDATE: No Spectators at Tokyo Summer Olympics

While spectators will be disallowed from all events in Tokyo and its surrounding areas, a few -- like the marathon -- will be held in areas not affected by the new state of emergency, allowing for the possibility that some fans can attend.

/shrug

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 08, 2021 02:49 PM (9VFzC)

47 Man, Nike losing money and Avenatti going to prison for trying to extort Nike? How rare when both sides so deserve to lose, and then both do.
Posted by: Broseidon at July 08, 2021 02:41 PM

Only 2.5 years. He deserved the max just for falling for the "Yesterday, you made a bunch of extortionate demands. Can you repeat them? Please speak clearly" phone call.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 08, 2021 02:49 PM (EughT)

48 Daimler-Benz has a plant innAlabama,

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 08, 2021 02:49 PM (EAHHK)

49 Are shipping containers infrastructure?
are they a sandwich?

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 08, 2021 02:49 PM (v3pYe)

50
But I suppose I should lay in a supply of Veuve, since I want to celebrate my impending retirement.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2021 02:45 PM (2JVJo)

"impending retirement." Doesn't that have a nice ring to it?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 08, 2021 02:49 PM (PiwSw)

51 When JIT Feevah hit a couple of decades ago, those of us who actually understood how economies worked knew it was designed to fail when scaled up. Somehow the eggheads who dreamed this up never accounted for things like bad weather, political unrest and stuff like that there.

It works in small areas, but that's about it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (HaL55)
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Way back when, the small manufacturing company I worked for tried to go "JIT" along with build to order.

It was an unmitigated disaster. Rather than collating the orders for the same item into one build order, then shipping from the resulting inventory, they tried to build to order, and have that item be tracked completely through the building.

We'd being trying to process through 100 work orders where we used to have 1. Lost time due to processing all of the work orders was terrible.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 02:50 PM (2SdPm)

52 A lot of food products are processed in China even if the actual food itself is grown elsewhere. Slave labor, ya know.
Posted by: SFGoth at July 08, 2021 02:47 PM (KAi1n)

Fish. Hunting for fish not processed in China is tough. The one place I can afford to buy US fish not sent through China in bulk? Walmart.

Posted by: Catherine at July 08, 2021 02:50 PM (v2Nu6)

53 I buy virtually no Chinese made products. Especially not foodstuffs. If people read labels they would be shocked where some of this crap comes from.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 02:50 PM (Fdwku)

54 42 6 I called the otters.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 08, 2021 02:40 PM (vBO1h)

Not the dirty river ones I hope.
bit me

Posted by: a dirty otter from a clean river at July 08, 2021 02:51 PM (v3pYe)

55 Your Christmas shopping this year could be held up by a staggering shipping backlog in China's southern ports.

Oh, don't you worry about logjams...

Posted by: The Three Stooges Dam at July 08, 2021 02:51 PM (jacU8)

56 While spectators will be disallowed from all events in Tokyo and its surrounding areas, a few -- like the marathon -- will be held in areas not affected by the new state of emergency, allowing for the possibility that some fans can attend.

/shrug
Posted by: artisanal ette at July 08, 2021 02:49 PM (9VFzC)
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Wow, no revenue from visitors and TV viewership will be in the toilet.

Outstanding!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 02:51 PM (2SdPm)

57 China mastered the Soviet saying of 'selling the rope to hang us with'.

I go out of my way to avoid buying anything from China, paying more if needs be.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 08, 2021 02:51 PM (ifmtJ)

58 So, no more TPE sex dolls?

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 02:51 PM (v0R5T)

59 The saddest realization of all is that we're in this position by choice.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 08, 2021 02:52 PM (KbCG3)

60 >Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 08, 2021 02:44 PM (HaL55)

Don't get me started on scamming consultants who get paid beaucoup bucks to push The Toyota Way on every type of manufacturing concern, no matter the differences with the Japanese auto industry. Also the idiot CEOs and assorted high-level managers who enthusiastically push this shit, then get a golden parachute when things fall apart.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 02:52 PM (DXFDM)

61 Hmmm, shipping containers are made of steel. China has vast steel production overcapacity. The there's this news nugget from back in April ---

US Steel cancels their planned $1.5 billion expansion/upgrade plans for their Mon Valley PA facility. Probably cuz they got word that PuddinBrain plans to scrap tariffs. Which he has already said is now US policy.

Oh well.

Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 02:52 PM (F0YaR)

62 Well this certainly makes it easier to not buy products from the garbage people who do business with China.

Posted by: Methos at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (kOpft)

63 The container shortage is because of all the bunkers being built.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (2DOZq)

64 I'm aware of it, because I'm in international trade, we ship and buy container and bulk freight both directions.

It's a little overblown. But it will affect the consumer and it's one reason why some things you want to buy at home are on backorder. It will affect companies that need parts to assemble here.

My advice, stock up on things you need and don't worry about the things you want. Basically all you need is food, water, shelter, some textiles, fuel, ammo, basic tools, transportation and first aid basics. Need a new patio set? Wait to fall/winter or next year. This will go away

Posted by: Joe stinkyfingers at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (W+TLY)

65 A major element in what I called the catastrophe of Trump being removed. The entire China account, including not just the central one of trade and finance, but the broad-front influence and financial counter-offensive.

Entirely dependent on, and controlled by, the executive. Congress (which as has been already pointed out is of zero use on any part of this) has little role.

So, even my signature acid sarcasm of "oh but the mid-terms are gonna rock!" is irrelevant here.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (OTzUX)

66 "According to shipping expert Simon Sundboell from eeSea, Nike would have paid $2,000 for a 40-foot container pre-pandemic. Today, it could be paying as much as $20,000 for that same-sized vessel, Sundboell said.

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Nike can offset that by ramping slave-labor up 20-fold, with half the difference going to Queen LeBron endorsement deals.

Posted by: ShainS at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (kXln2)

67 I can fix this. I was once a 6sigma certified black belt at GE

Posted by: Archer at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (gmo/4)

68 So, no more TPE sex dolls?

Oh you can still get them, just not the patch kits.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (HaL55)

69 And none of this outsourcing works with climate change. Container ships are never going to be electric.

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 02:54 PM (Y5qcH)

70 China wants to be the largest influence in the world. Taking that spot from the US.

Problem is they still can't change their thinking and don't understand that you always can't make people obey them or buy their stuff with a gun to their head (figuratively or reality).

Some folks will just dig in their heels for the hell of it even if it doesn't make economic sense.

They need to make China act like a FRIEND to everyone to get where they want to get. I don't think that a party dictatorship has the emotional ability to do that. They're too used to ordering people around or making their lives hell or outright shooting them if they don't cooperate.

That won't work globally.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 02:54 PM (iDOB7)

71 We all, really, have too much stuff. Not being a commie here or anything but one of the major leverages the corporate fascists have is that people think they can't be happy without more and more new stuff. Operate on a smaller scale and they have less leverage.

Posted by: azjaeger at July 08, 2021 02:54 PM (yrHSD)

72 I go out of my way to avoid buying anything from China, paying more if needs be.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 08, 2021 02:51 PM (ifmtJ)

Yep. Though when shopping online the retailers make finding the made-in info a tad difficult. The juice is worth the squeeze though.

Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 02:55 PM (F0YaR)

73 On top of that the chief free trader argument is that economic interdependence with China would reduce the likelihood of conflict. How's that working out?

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at July 08, 2021 02:55 PM (poBvR)

74 67 I can fix this. I was once a 6sigma certified black belt at GE

Posted by: Archer at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (gmo/4)

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Just-in-Time Delivery FTW!

Posted by: ShainS at July 08, 2021 02:55 PM (kXln2)

75 Doesn't seem like building shipping containers would be that hard. Lots of idle manufacturing capability near US seaports.

You would think SOMEONE would be jumping on this opportunity.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 08, 2021 02:55 PM (5p7BC)

76 UPDATE: No Spectators at Tokyo Summer Olympics

NIP OLYMPIX NIX SPEX
BUT NOT
CHIX WITH DIX

Posted by: NOT VARIETY at July 08, 2021 02:55 PM (786Ro)

77 I feel so violated. I read Nurse's post as "China fucked us, we are so owned." Jack Daniels (not bourbon) to the rescue.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 08, 2021 02:56 PM (oWBc3)

78 I mean, about the only way to improve on this is if someone with some bored submarines started plinking the cargo ships that do come out of China.

Posted by: Methos at July 08, 2021 02:56 PM (kOpft)

79 The World Economic Forum is running simulations on what happens with supply chain interruptions from cyber attacks. We know they did this with a pandemic a few years ago. And we also have testimony that China released the Wuhan Flu on purpose, sending infected Chinese around the world. I don't think it's out of bounds to believe that China unleashed a bioweapon as a means of studying its effectiveness and social response. I have my doubts that one ship blocked the main artery of goods through the Suez Canal by accident. This latest slowdown in Chinese ports is just more data gathering. They're bold enough now to bypass the archaic "computer modeling" method -- they've gone straight to human trials. Who's gonna stop them? Biden?

We're living the prelude to a shitshow.

Posted by: red speck at July 08, 2021 02:56 PM (gS3OW)

80 Chickity China the Chinese chicken
You have a drumstick and your brain stops tickin'...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 08, 2021 02:56 PM (jGZjF)

81 Maybe it's time for those container house weirdos to give up their living space. You know, we're all in this together.

Posted by: InCali at July 08, 2021 02:56 PM (MBmq2)

82 GnuBreed, I had missed the steel company announcement.

Concrete example of the end of the Trump-based re-industrialization miracle. Much, much more of that to come, obviously.

Sickening. Great job, America.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 08, 2021 02:56 PM (OTzUX)

83

I dated a quite pretty, genius level mainland Chinese lady for a while. Really nice, until we brought her son over from China, then she went full on insane tiger mom.

Also she was literally the worst fuck I ever had in my life.

And fervently even religiously convinced that there were no homosexual Chinese, that fagotry was entirely a western invention.

Strange people.

Also, she stole my cat.

Posted by: Generic Concern Troll at July 08, 2021 02:56 PM (Qt80h)

84 I ordered a utility trailer the end of March. I am still waiting for it to be built. Seems like shortages of materials are affecting trailers too. I really wanted to get this one built so I could have a heavier axle and trailer brakes, but I am tempted to cancel the order and look for something else.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 08, 2021 02:57 PM (5HBd1)

85
fook China
Fook the chineese
fook communism
and fook those guys

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 08, 2021 02:57 PM (bTQ72)

86 I shopped for a metal building last month. The lady
at the mom and pop business told me to go ahead and get my down payment
in before the 1st because she had been told by the manufacturer that
prices were going up 30% after that date.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM

Same thing happened to a guy I know that is buying a manufactured home. He paid his down payment they required to start the house and two weeks later they said if you don't come in and give us another $25,000 this week your house is going to cost a whole lot more because we have to order and pay for the materials before the price goes up again. He is not happy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 08, 2021 02:57 PM (JUOKG)

87 We all, really, have too much stuff. Not being a commie here or anything but one of the major leverages the corporate fascists have is that people think they can't be happy without more and more new stuff. Operate on a smaller scale and they have less leverage.
Posted by: azjaeger at July 08, 2021 02:54 PM (yrHSD)

The great reset is everyone renting and consooming like crazy. When you rent, there's no incentive to maintain it. You lease a car, and then it gets scrapped. You lease a habitation pod- I mean, an "apartment" and then it gets demolished to build another. Everything is disposable, to keep up demand for new production.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 08, 2021 02:57 PM (jOcSX)

88 US Steel cancels their planned $1.5 billion expansion/upgrade plans for their Mon Valley PA facility. Probably cuz they got word that PuddinBrain plans to scrap tariffs. Which he has already said is now US policy.

Oh well.
Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 02:52 PM (F0YaR)

That, and the fact that energy costs are skyrocketing (by design). This sort of thing is the logical fallout from Biden scrapping Keystone on his first day.

Posted by: 496 at July 08, 2021 02:57 PM (U1eOr)

89 The container shortage is because of all the bunkers being built.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (2DOZq)

------

Heh. I also expected shithole cities to buy up a bunch for homeless shelters.

Posted by: ShainS at July 08, 2021 02:57 PM (kXln2)

90 We must bail out Walmart now! $1 trillion. Vote now! No time to debate!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 08, 2021 02:58 PM (5atWK)

91
The consulting firms got their fees and the gurus have tenure, so meh.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 08, 2021 02:58 PM (mht8P)

92 Strange people.

Also, she stole my cat.

Posted by: Generic Concern Troll at July 08, 2021 02:56 PM (Qt80h)

And you ate it when you ordered Chinese takeout

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 02:58 PM (mR6Gs)

93 Though when shopping online the retailers make finding the made-in info a tad difficult. The juice is worth the squeeze though.
Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 02:55 PM (F0YaR)

Yep. If Amazon doesn't have the info (or it's not in the Questions), most of the time I can find it by doing a web search for the product.

I NEVER would have imagined I'd be happy to see a 'Made in Vietnam' logo when I was a kid.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 08, 2021 02:58 PM (ifmtJ)

94 So we are going to give people a ton of money for not working, with which they won't be able to buy goods and services because those just aren't available for the proles.

Yep, we've jumped all the way to late stage socialism a la the Soviets in the 80s.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 02:58 PM (DpkTQ)

95 It's not just China. The US imports more goods and services from Europe than from China. What do we buy from Europe? Cars and pharmaceuticals, primarily. In other words, we are buying things we can easily make here and we are buying those things from countries with comparable labor costs.

Surprised? It's primarily tax differences, I will bet you. Pharma, for example, develops most things here and sends the manufacturing overseas because of better tax structures and IP protections. Any tax increases or new laws limiting patent rights will do nothing except exacerbate those trends.

https://tinyurl.com/he8e96sw
https://tinyurl.com/zf8wjuej

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (bIH0b)

96 Yay, I get to yell about JIT!

JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong. You know, like snowing in winter, let alone a volcano blowing in Iceland, or a fire at a port in Dubai, or, pretty much anything at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)

97 So, I needed new golf shoes. I go to the one store in town and I got myself some lovely Vietnamese-made Sketchers.

Yeah. Why can't Converse make some here?

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (xopIz)

98 8 US Steel cancels their planned $1.5 billion expansion/upgrade plans for their Mon Valley PA facility.

Maybe now they will take the philly fraud machine seriously. Lol.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (5atWK)

99 And guess what - concurrent with the shipping bottlenecks, there is also a global container shortage.

That's the biggie. They are having to ship them back to Chyna empty and are being raped on the cost.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (SMh/7)

100 Doesn't seem like building shipping containers would be that hard. Lots of idle manufacturing capability near US seaports.

You would think SOMEONE would be jumping on this opportunity.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 08, 2021 02:55 PM (5p7BC)

I'm willing to bet that if Trump were in charge he'd be calling up manufacturers and saying, "what do you need to shift gears?"

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (jOcSX)

101 Don't be dissin' China, yo!

Posted by: Lebron at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (63Dwl)

102 I shopped for a metal building last month. The lady at the mom and pop business told me to go ahead and get my down payment in before the 1st because she had been told by the manufacturer that prices were going up 30% after that date.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at July 08, 2021 02:46 PM (ia0+L)

Well hot dogs are $.16 cheaper. Ever think of making you shed out of that? Bet you didn't. Circle around to that and next question.

Posted by: Jen Pstupid at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (Ojki1)

103 Also, she stole my cat.

You misspelled "dinner."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (HaL55)

104 "You would think SOMEONE would be jumping on this opportunity."

Who? The big money guys are all in on manufacturing in some country with cheap foreign labor and anyone else can't raise the capitol or get bye the regulatory system.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 08, 2021 03:00 PM (qH6FZ)

105 So, I needed new golf shoes. I go to the one store in town and I got myself some lovely Vietnamese-made Sketchers.

Yeah. Why can't Converse make some here?
Posted by: JAS

No vietcong here?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:00 PM (SMh/7)

106 The container shortage is because of all the bunkers being built.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (2DOZq)

Damn it. I thought the camouflage was working!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 08, 2021 03:00 PM (axyOa)

107 JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong. You know, like snowing in winter, let alone a volcano blowing in Iceland, or a fire at a port in Dubai, or, pretty much anything at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)
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You mean that when theory meets reality, reality wins?

I must hit the fainting couch with that revelation.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:00 PM (2SdPm)

108 5 Oh noes! Nike will lose money! But they can always buy more slaves to pick up the slack.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 02:40 PM (L2ZTs)

LeBronny James isn't doing anything right now. He can pitch in.

What is "We are all in this together" in Mandarin? Hey, John Cena, can ya help me out?

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:01 PM (Ojki1)

109 I've been to a couple of the major container factories in China and spent 5 years there (left the day Obama was elected, which is why I chose this nic).

All I can say is -- good. Glad that the idiots that mindlessly offshored and outsourced are getting it good and hard.

Posted by: In Exile at July 08, 2021 03:01 PM (ozJi8)

110 So, I needed new golf shoes. I go to the one store in town and I got myself some lovely Vietnamese-made Sketchers.

Yeah. Why can't Converse make some here?
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (xopIz)

Nike owns Converse.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 08, 2021 03:01 PM (71o5h)

111 There's a shipping container in my dead friend Walter's back yard.

Does anyone want to pay for it or is this just more noise?

Posted by: torabora at July 08, 2021 03:01 PM (pYQxv)

112 You mean that when theory meets reality, reality wins?

I must hit the fainting couch with that revelation.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:00 PM (2SdPm)

I get so angry when reality chupacabras all over my lovely lovely theory.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 08, 2021 03:01 PM (mf5HN)

113 I'm willing to bet that if Trump were in charge he'd be calling up manufacturers and saying, "what do you need to shift gears?"
Posted by: Colorado Alex

Um, actual gears?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:02 PM (SMh/7)

114 Yep, we've jumped all the way to late stage socialism a la the Soviets in the 80s.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 02:58 PM (DpkTQ)

And we thought the Dems couldn't do it better!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 08, 2021 03:02 PM (axyOa)

115 107 JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong. You know, like snowing in winter, let alone a volcano blowing in Iceland, or a fire at a port in Dubai, or, pretty much anything at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)
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You mean that when theory meets reality, reality wins?

I must hit the fainting couch with that revelation.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:00 PM (2SdPm)

This time it will be different, comrade, if everyone just believes the 5 year plan hard enough.
-Socialists everywhere

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:02 PM (Ojki1)

116 Personally, I think the Olympics are about done.

What might work is each country that wishes to can host a single event or more if they can afford it.

Make the countries pay a licensing fee and be certified by the Olympics committee.

This would allow small countries to host them and stop this country to country hopscotch that only benefits a small number of people. (I know, duh)

But it would be nice to see events take place over the whole year instead of the big splotch of events in one place to the point of boredom.

It think they're about done for sports.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:02 PM (iDOB7)

117 Just in time inventory has many benefits. Avoiding shortages ain't one of them,

Posted by: Just a side note at July 08, 2021 03:03 PM (2DOZq)

118 Wal-Mart is the #1 importer of goods from China. Home Despot is #2.

*Ace is the Place jingle*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 08, 2021 03:03 PM (QzJWU)

119 Things like shipping containers should be made in China. The bigger issue is that other high value-added things are also built there, as well as critical inputs to basically everything. That is a stupid level of supply chain risk that people shouldn't be willing to accept so easily, but companies convinced themselves that 3 Chinese factories was as safe as 1 US, 1 Canada, 1 Europe or the like. Spoiler: it isn't as safe.

Posted by: In Exile at July 08, 2021 03:03 PM (ozJi8)

120 >I can fix this. I was once a 6sigma certified black belt at GE
Posted by: Archer at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (gmo/4)

*triggered*

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 03:03 PM (DXFDM)

121 China also had lots of flooding, and may have some food shortages, I hear. ... iirc, they import about 30% of their food, but since they are so big, they still produce a lot (and export a lot ... CCP probably doesn't care if their serfs starve a little ... keep the exports rolling, just feed the workers?)

Posted by: illiniwek at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (Cus5s)

122 Oh my, a container shortage. What will Canada do with their trash?

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (v0R5T)

123 The container shortage is because of all the bunkers being built.

Posted by: Just a side note

I can get them for $1500 to $2500 all day long depending on length wanted.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (SMh/7)

124 122 Oh my, a container shortage. What will Canada do with their trash?
Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (v0R5T)

Send it to the US to be VP?

Posted by: In Exile at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (ozJi8)

125 There ain't shortages of jack shit in China.

They are choking out our economy to make us suck their shorter than the average white male sized penises.

You really think Ford can't get their micro-chips to complete vehicles because of shipping issues? Lol.

We are being shown that they no longer need our money, they have it all. But we need their sweet, sweet slave labor manufacturing.

And so suck the minuscule penis with the slanty pee-hole on it, we must.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (5We2S)

126 #61
Chi nah: No jobs for you Round Eye
Now buy our product.

Posted by: torabora at July 08, 2021 03:05 PM (pYQxv)

127 Calm down, folks.

GOP is talking tax cuts! Tax cuts!

That oughta take care of all these things.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 08, 2021 03:05 PM (OTzUX)

128 JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong. You
know, like snowing in winter, let alone a volcano blowing in Iceland,
or a fire at a port in Dubai, or, pretty much anything at all.

A lot of what I know that is wrong about human nature - specifically human nature as it applies to those who seek to be in charge - I learned from working at Toyota. It was a paid 10 to 12 hours a day lab, sometimes 5 days a week - mostly 6 - and often 7.

The American Management fascination with JIT there was rivaled only by their equally slavish pursuit of Total Quality Management (TQM). In both cases - it was a caste of people with much more ambition than brains or wisdom blindly pursuing a mantra, ignorant of how or why the process worked and therefore unable to successfully apply it, yet always constantly attempting to out-zealous each other in the hopes of being picked to take the next step up the company ladder - to greater opportunities for ignorance and failure.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:05 PM (xQJTG)

129 That is a stupid level of supply chain risk that people shouldn't be
willing to accept so easily, but companies convinced themselves that 3
Chinese factories was as safe as 1 US, 1 Canada, 1 Europe or the like.
Spoiler: it isn't as safe.
Real learning only ever occurs the hard way.

Posted by: Methos at July 08, 2021 03:06 PM (kOpft)

130 123 The container shortage is because of all the bunkers being built.

Posted by: Just a side note

Better add some sandbags. Those containers are very soft steel. They aren't going to stop much.

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 03:06 PM (Y5qcH)

131 Make the countries pay a licensing fee and be certified by the Olympics committee.

This would allow small countries to host them and stop this country to country hopscotch that only benefits a small number of people. (I know, duh)

Small countries can't afford the Olympics bribes. They're Olympic for a reason.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 08, 2021 03:06 PM (axyOa)

132 JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong.

It's very fragile. You're counting on other people to do the things you used to do and had control over.

Posted by: t-bird at July 08, 2021 03:07 PM (1fg6a)

133 61 Hmmm, shipping containers are made of steel. China has vast steel production overcapacity. The there's this news nugget from back in April ---

US Steel cancels their planned $1.5 billion expansion/upgrade plans for their Mon Valley PA facility. Probably cuz they got word that PuddinBrain plans to scrap tariffs. Which he has already said is now US policy.

Oh well.
Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 02:52 PM (F0YaR)

It'd have just created more jobs Americans don't want and force the government to do even more amnesty.
/

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:07 PM (Ojki1)

134 Choke the supply chain. Wake people up. Bring. It. On.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 08, 2021 03:08 PM (oWBc3)

135 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (5We2S)

Was talking with my neighbor last night about politics when China came up. He's ex-Army, still a reservist. He said he's worried about having to face down China militarily.

I told him it would never happen. We have mountains of evidence that China, at best, leaked a virus throughout the world that essentially destroyed our country for a year. What's the response? Half the people want to blame the guy who pointed it out.

We have no appetite for confrontation with China, and our "president" is firmly on their side anyway. If COVID can't draw a reaction, well, this sure as shit ain't gonna.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 08, 2021 03:08 PM (KbCG3)

136 >>The American Management fascination with JIT there was rivaled only by their equally slavish pursuit of Total Quality Management (TQM).

Team Management...man, the stupidest idea ever thought of. Hey, let's suggest a management system that guarantees that no one will ever be held accountable for the fucked up ideas management comes up with! Comedy gold!

Posted by: Boswell at July 08, 2021 03:08 PM (5iUNf)

137 Real learning only ever occurs the hard way.
Posted by: Methos at July 08, 2021 03:06 PM (kOpft)

We had a saying: "Stupid is always learning things the hard way."

also,

"Stupid punishes itself."

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 03:08 PM (Y5qcH)

138 It's because BlackRock is buying all of them and renting them out as homes.

Posted by: t-bird at July 08, 2021 03:09 PM (1fg6a)

139 I always thought Harbor Freight was your easy single stop for tons of Chinese junk.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:09 PM (L2ZTs)

140 China also had lots of flooding, and may have some
food shortages, I hear. ... iirc, they import about 30% of their food,
but since they are so big, they still produce a lot (and export a lot
... CCP probably doesn't care if their serfs starve a little ... keep
the exports rolling, just feed the workers?)

Posted by: illiniwek at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM

They get a significant amount of their pork from the US and the EU. Nearly a third of what they consume IIRC.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 08, 2021 03:09 PM (JUOKG)

141 Choke the supply chain. Wake people up. Bring. It. On.

Yes. I'm willing to suffer some - just for the pleasure of watching certain groups suffer more.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:09 PM (xQJTG)

142 JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong.

It's very fragile. You're counting on other people to do the things you used to do and had control over.
Posted by: t-bird

Your sphincter is so tight you don't fart, but whistle.
Because you are praying NOTHING goes wrong on the other side of the world.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:09 PM (SMh/7)

143 The container shortage is because of all the bunkers being built.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (2DOZq)
.......

That one crazy dude on Alaskan Bush people built his bachelor pad out of one.

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:10 PM (v0R5T)

144 Summat related, it was because somebody here mentioned '1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed' by Eric Cline, that I scurried out and picked up a copy.

Fascinating book. Thankee, whoever you were!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at July 08, 2021 03:10 PM (dfRN6)

145 I can get them for $1500 to $2500 all day long depending on length wanted.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (SMh/7)

That is here in the USA.

Nike needs them in China, so their Uighyur Slave Labor can fill them with Chinese manufactured dreck.

A local man is building fully finished remote offices for your backyard out of them here in MN. He gets up to $40,000 for one.

Posted by: rd at July 08, 2021 03:10 PM (Z32m1)

146 "In both cases - it was a caste of people with much more ambition than brains or wisdom blindly pursuing a mantra, ignorant of how or why the process worked and therefore unable to successfully apply it, yet always constantly attempting to out-zealous each other in the hopes of being picked to take the next step up the company ladder - to greater opportunities for ignorance and failure.
Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:05 PM (xQJTG)"

There is a great podcast on NUMMI, which was a joint Toyota/GM factory (formerly just a closed GM factory). GM wanted to learn how Toyota operated. They copied everything to their other US plants, but it didn't work because they didn't buy in to the entire system in the same way that Toyota did. Costly series of blunders on their part.

Similar to Chesterton's Gate. You need to understand it first before you copy it and try to make it work for you.

Posted by: In Exile at July 08, 2021 03:10 PM (ozJi8)

147 Yeah, nothing has ever gone wrong in China. The place they built a huge wall to keep out Mongol Hordes.

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 03:10 PM (Y5qcH)

148 The American Management fascination with JIT there was rivaled only by their equally slavish pursuit of Total Quality Management (TQM).
Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:05 PM (xQJTG)
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Same manufacturing company I worked for tossed aside their very good quality control program to get ISO certified, even though their existing QC program fell within ISO parameters.

As I said at the time, ISO was created in order to make it harder for American companies to compete in Europe.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (2SdPm)

149 Just heard of a story:
"Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

150 I am feeling vindicated. I had a strange vibe when the warranty people told me the screw I was looking for my rifle came from Brazil. Then the customer service people claimed they couldn;t tell me if the item was in stock because they don't communicate with the gunsmiths. When I asked how long it would take to insert a single screw, they said they were running about 4 weeks for a repair. Hah! I bet that's what they tell everyone. Really glad I did not send it to them. Who knows how long before I saw it again. No thank you. With Weasels's help, fixed it myself. $6.99 for screws, phillips head screwdriver. 2 minutes labor.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (sd8p8)

151 Speaking of Chinese shipping, what the heck is a hanging leg raise?

Posted by: LASue at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

152 149 Just heard of a story:
"Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

There is no such thing as LGBTQ healthcare.

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (Y5qcH)

153
The American Management fascination with JIT there was rivaled only by their equally slavish pursuit of Total Quality Management (TQM).

__________

Some C-Suite guy reads the latest management book and thinks this is for them. Big, expensive program is put in place to implement it. Existing processes are disrupted, line animals are confused and disgruntled. No improvement results.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (mht8P)

154 We all, really, have too much stuff. Not being a commie here or anything but one of the major leverages the corporate fascists have is that people think they can't be happy without more and more new stuff. Operate on a smaller scale and they have less leverage.
Posted by: azjaeger at July 08, 2021 02:54 PM (yrHSD)

I'm not so much a purchaser of "stuff" per se (with retirement coming, I don't like to rack up bills or payment plans), except for books and, perhaps, the occasional classical CD.

I go book shopping nearly every week, and never come home without at least one book. So yes, I suppose I could cut down on that, but spending an hour or two in a used bookshop is one of the few unalloyed pleasures I have in life.

But I'm not buying books from China, so there's that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (2JVJo)

155 Was talking with my neighbor last night about politics when China came up. He's ex-Army, still a reservist. He said he's worried about having to face down China militarily.

I told him it would never happen. We have mountains of evidence that China, at best, leaked a virus throughout the world that essentially destroyed our country for a year. What's the response? Half the people want to blame the guy who pointed it out.

We have no appetite for confrontation with China, and our "president" is firmly on their side anyway. If COVID can't draw a reaction, well, this sure as shit ain't gonna.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

Official Chinese Army 2.5 million
Unofficial US Army - 70 million Americans willing to defend US soil.

Wolverines!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (SMh/7)

156 107 JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong.

Yeah, that too. The unspoken part of JIT is that the suppliers to The Big Boys have to carry the inventory. I know, cuz our plant supplied a couple of widgets to Ford. We would always produce ahead of the schedule, and carry a couple of months of their widgets.

Their inventory can be lean because we carried it for them.

Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (F0YaR)

157 67 I can fix this. I was once a 6sigma certified black belt at GE
huh. now that you mention it, that's a term i've not heard in a while. used to be my e-mail was full of notifications about upcoming training sessions. wonder what happened.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (v3pYe)

158 "Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

What is the context?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 08, 2021 03:13 PM (k39e/)

159 >I can fix this. I was once a 6sigma certified black belt at GE

Posted by: Archer at July 08, 2021 02:53 PM (gmo/4)

*triggered*

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 03:03 PM (DXFDM)

lol

Posted by: flounder at July 08, 2021 03:13 PM (KnJdm)

160 * dives into pool *

Posted by: guy with chronic diarrhea at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (Tnijr)

161 Speaking of Chinese shipping, what the heck is a hanging leg raise?
Posted by: LASue at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

You did them in elementary school at recess...you'd hang from the monkey bars and lift your legs every time someone threw a ball at you to try and knock you down.

Posted by: Boswell at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (5iUNf)

162 Your sphincter is so tight you don't fart, but whistle.
Because you are praying NOTHING goes wrong on the other side of the world.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:09 PM (SMh/7)

=================

Not just overseas. Just wait until you need a $4 million 100 Ton piece of Capital Equipment moved from Florida to the Midwest in the middle of hurricane season.

Posted by: rd at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (Z32m1)

163 Nurse r, you might have neutron mail.

Posted by: RI Red at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (JOV35)

164 Their inventory can be lean because we carried it for them.
Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (F0YaR)

This. Which actually is worse than big company holding the inventory, because suppliers have a higher cost of capital. Big company ends up paying for the inefficiency through higher input costs.

Posted by: In Exile at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (ozJi8)

165
Calm down, folks.
GOP is talking tax cuts! Tax cuts!
That oughta take care of all these things.
Posted by: rhomboid

What about Enterprise Zones?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (63Dwl)

166 China takes Cali, Oregon, Washington, and a chunk of Central America. Trump blamed.

P.S. JIT works to perfection on a cocktail napkin. Seen it happen in meat space.

Posted by: klaftern at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (r4sI4)

167 Calm down, folks.
GOP is talking tax cuts! Tax cuts!
That oughta take care of all these things.
Posted by: rhomboid

GOP is a parody of itself

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (mR6Gs)

168 158 "Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

What is the context?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 08, 2021 03:13 PM (k39e/)

Probably tranny surgeries, maybe on children.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (z5Vrg)

169 Biden changes end of US combat mission in Afghanistan from Sept. 11 to Aug. 31

Posted by: SMOD at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (X5CsJ)

170 that's a term i've not heard in a while. used to be
my e-mail was full of notifications about upcoming training sessions.
wonder what happened.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (v3pYe)

Superseded by ISO 9001:2000 Certification buzzword.

Posted by: flounder at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (KnJdm)

171 It's reassuring to know that "global free trade" occurs only to the extent that China allows it to occur, isn't it?

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I bet that people who opposed the outsourcing to China were called xenophobes and troglodytes by our business leaders. It becomes more and more obvious that we are governed by complete idiots of both parties.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (RMGKK)

172 What about Enterprise Zones?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM

The USS Enterprise? Nice boat, big and roomy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (JUOKG)

173 This. Which actually is worse than big company holding the inventory, because suppliers have a higher cost of capital. Big company ends up paying for the inefficiency through higher input costs.
Posted by: In Exile at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (ozJi

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There's a reason why Henry Ford was obsessed with vertical integration. He wanted control from raw materials to finished product.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:16 PM (2SdPm)

174 Fenelon, the story's at Rolling Stone so I won't bother providing a link. I hate to give hateful lefties the traffic.

But supposedly it's exactly what it sounds like and was snuck into an Ohio budget bill that's been signed by DeWine.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:16 PM (L2ZTs)

175 Fuck the left
Fuck the globalists
Fuck the chicoms, but at least they love their country
Fuck sundown

Our enemies are shitting themselves they are laughing so hard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 08, 2021 03:16 PM (Irn0L)

176 Your sphincter is so tight you don't fart, but whistle.

Because you are praying NOTHING goes wrong on the other side of the world.
The very first thing that goes to shit when outsourcing gets started is Quality. Returns and reworks go up every time, further hurting the supply chain and delivery times.

This is not new knowledge and if we had some sort of national manufacturing philosphy, we'd never have been sucked into this failure cascade. None of it ever needed to happen, but here we are. Fucked. Terribly.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 08, 2021 03:16 PM (HaL55)

177 * dives into pool *
Posted by: guy with chronic diarrhea at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (Tnijr)

* builds Lego White House *

Posted by: White Supremacist at July 08, 2021 03:16 PM (v0R5T)

178
used to be my e-mail was full of notifications about upcoming training sessions. wonder what happened.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain

Somebody moved your cheese.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2021 03:17 PM (63Dwl)

179 122 Oh my, a container shortage. What will Canada do with their trash?
Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:04 PM (v0R5T)

Export it to the US as a hot new pop star like they've been doing for years?

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:17 PM (Ojki1)

180 "‘Division G’: The Senate Bill’s Disarming of America

Senators Wyden (D-OR) and Crapo (R-ID), the top men from each party on the Senate Finance Committee, attached to the Senate bill a --President Xi wish-list-- titled "Division G -Trade Act of 2021."

Senator Schumer accepted it into his Innovation and Competition Act (known as the 'China bill') to get bipartisan support for it in the Senate. How much of this do's breakfast will make it through the House and into law is still a very open question."

https://tinyurl.com/4meebzt6

I guess the House is pushing back on the "gift to the CCP" ... that the Senate pushed. "too many bad things for one article" they say ...

Posted by: illiniwek at July 08, 2021 03:17 PM (Cus5s)

181 164 Their inventory can be lean because we carried it for them.
Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (F0YaR)

This. Which actually is worse than big company holding the inventory, because suppliers have a higher cost of capital. Big company ends up paying for the inefficiency through higher input costs.
Posted by: In Exile at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM (ozJi

Not if it just gets to the point where there is basically no inventory anywhere in the chain.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 03:17 PM (z5Vrg)

182 Official Chinese Army 2.5 million

Yeah.
Their biggest problem is getting them here.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 08, 2021 03:17 PM (axyOa)

183 Biden changes end of US combat mission in Afghanistan from Sept. 11 to Aug. 31
Posted by: SMOD at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (X5CsJ)

Pretty much..LOL

But he has supreme confidence in the Kabul central gov. LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 08, 2021 03:17 PM (Irn0L)

184 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (z5Vrg)

That sounded like a possibility, because if some adult man claiming to be a woman who still has a penis and testicles wanted some medication for migraines, for instance, the doctor is sure as heck not going to say "I'm sorry. I can't give you that." You're LBGT, etc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (k39e/)

185 JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)

As in most things, it works if it isn't taken to extremes. Having loads of parts arrive 12 seconds before they are needed on the assembly floor may not be wise, but smaller stocks is in general a very good thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (Q9lwr)

186 152 149 Just heard of a story:
"Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."

......

Probably something like Tennessee passed several years back.

Essentially it goes like this: Some weirdo comes into your psychology office a claims they are a woman, even though they clearly have a dick and balls. They demand that you begin prescribing them hormones and schedule a dick severing for them. "Chop off my cock", they say.

If you, as the psychologist say "No, you've got a cock and balls. I'm not going to prescribe you hormones and schedule a dick severing. Instead I want to counsel you with therapy against the delusion that you are a woman," they want to force you to entertain the delusion.

Now balance that against your right as a patient to say "I'd like Ivermectin for my COVID please".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (5We2S)

187 do's breakfast =dog's breakfast

Posted by: illiniwek at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (Cus5s)

188 There is a great podcast on NUMMI, which was a joint Toyota/GM factory
(formerly just a closed GM factory). GM wanted to learn how Toyota
operated.
I worked there, fifteen years ago. A shit show. An equal shit show - the GMification of Toyota. That was ultimately why I left.
The marriage of Japanese Management with US technical and skilled labor was a home run. A Japanese Manager - back in the day - didn't sit in his fucking office. He came to the line. Because back on the Home Islands, he had to. Because, contrary to what is often spouted by those that don't know what they are talking about, Japanese applied engineers and tradesmen pretty much suck. They are absolutely fucking awful. Those first wave of managers when Toyota came here were absolutely floored when they started working with American technicians. They couldn't believe the shit that was accomplished daily, by nothing more than a "can you make this better ?". Tach times (how often a part comes off the line) better than they'd ever seen with excellent quality.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:19 PM (xQJTG)

189 I used 6sigma black belt on Cornpop!

Posted by: Joe Bi den at July 08, 2021 03:19 PM (pYQxv)

190 182 Official Chinese Army 2.5 million

Yeah.

Their biggest problem is getting them here.
you're right. might be hard with the container shortage going on.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 08, 2021 03:19 PM (v3pYe)

191
Attention, Round Eyes!

You have an annual minimum amount of MELAMINE -- the PRC's MIRACLE CHEMICAL -- to buy annually!

You are behind on your quota, Round Eyes!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 08, 2021 03:19 PM (+2sc/)

192 I think maybe 10-15% of our company's raw materials are from China. I know we're running out of a yellow pigment that only comes from one cave there (which they've overmined, of course), but we've already told our customers what the alternatives are and are moving away from it.

Posted by: pookysgirl, covered in paint and solvent again at July 08, 2021 03:20 PM (XKZwp)

193 185 JIT is fantastic so long as not a single, solitary thing goes wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 08, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)

As in most things, it works if it isn't taken to extremes. Having loads of parts arrive 12 seconds before they are needed on the assembly floor may not be wise, but smaller stocks is in general a very good thing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (Q9lwr)

It's always been a way to try and shift storage costs. If everyone shifts storage cost that means there is no on-hand inventory. On the other hand a shortage is generally preferable for the producers compared to overproduction.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 03:20 PM (z5Vrg)

194 As in most things, it works if it isn't taken to extremes. Having loads of parts arrive 12 seconds before they are needed on the assembly floor may not be wise, but smaller stocks is in general a very good thing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (Q9lwr)
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The company I worked for went completely "build to order" rather than keeping inventory levels of common parts, with orders being generated when the inventory fell below a certain point and building to order only the specialty stuff.

I lived it and it was a nightmare and I cannot believe we were the only ones who went down that road.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:21 PM (2SdPm)

195 Their primary motivation was to assert their status as global citizens, and the best way they knew to do that was to destroy American manufacturing and to put as many deplorable Americans out of work as they could.

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I used to work with a woman who liked to announce how she was a citizen of the world. They lived in Oxford and Nigeria for a time due to her husband's work. She used to say that Nigeria was better, they had servants for everything and it was hard to get used to doing her own housework when they moved back.

There they are the globalists, exploiters of the poor everywhere including the US whose military enabled them the protection of a US passport.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 08, 2021 03:21 PM (RMGKK)

196 These aren't bad folks, folks!!!

- China Joe Bi Den

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)

197 The side bar, heh heh. This is how I picture it going down with Jonah and the devil:

Jonah: Ok so my terms of the deal is I get to be mentioned often in best conservative blogs. They never tire of talking about me.

Devil: Your terms are acceptable, the deal is done.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 08, 2021 03:21 PM (6Phnr)

198 Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:19 PM (xQJTG)

Wow. Small world.

Sad to here that about Toyota, though I'm not entirely surprised.

America is (well...was) a country of industrious people that could solve any problem. Now we are a country of middle managers and bullshit artists. Sigh.

Posted by: In Exile at July 08, 2021 03:22 PM (ozJi8)

199 I'm sure the globalists will get right on the shipping container shortage since they need something to traffick the girls in.

Posted by: ... at July 08, 2021 03:22 PM (1gBxb)

200 You would think SOMEONE would be jumping on this opportunity.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 08, 2021 02:55 PM (5p7BC)

Yep, OSHA, DEQ, and Dept of Labor are all there with the Unions with their clip boards and tax assessments and asbestos mitigation requirements.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 08, 2021 03:22 PM (ySM85)

201 Calm down, folks.

GOP is talking tax cuts! Tax cuts!

That oughta take care of all these things.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 08, 2021 03:05 PM (OTzUX)
--
Yeah, the tax cut messaging is pathetic. It's what the GOPe wants to push (Corporate tax cuts!), and probably was the only compromise that would present a united front.

Still. Pathetic. The GOP hates its voters and its disgust only shows more and more.

Posted by: Revenant at July 08, 2021 03:22 PM (ydlAE)

202 Hyperefficiency and JIT have created an incredibly fragile system. The goal of the establishment at this point is to preserve the system at all costs. They are terrified of what happens when it all starts to collapse. Not just for their jobs, but when it finally crashes it's going to take a lot of society with it. Hence why they needed to get rid of Trump, why they need to continually pump out money to inflate the stock and housing markets, why they continually consolidate power into increasingly large and unaccountable bureaucracies. They are behaving like any organization which is overleveraged and desperate.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 08, 2021 03:22 PM (jOcSX)

203 Back up and running but might take a while to catch up --

https://www.freightwaves.com

Posted by: Uncle Rick at July 08, 2021 03:23 PM (48/MM)

204 …isn’t the beauty of outsourcing manufacturing jobs supposed to be that the additional cost of shipping products across the globe is still cheaper than paying for labor here in our own country?

It depends a lot on what you mean by “labor”. I’d bet that the number of non-core employees per core employee is far smaller overseas than it is in the United States. That is, fewer lawyers, fewer human resources personnel, fewer forms, which means fewer people hired just to fill out forms. And so a much higher percentage of employees making actual product.

It also means much, much faster turnaround times when changes to product lines are necessary. And that is a critical factor in the modern world: being late with new technologies means you have nothing to sell except old products people don’t want to buy.

I strongly suspect that if we cut the regulatory burden to a sane level, the actual hourly wage would turn out to have practically no effect on outsourcing, and that the benefits of having employees and manufacturing more easily accessible for testing and changes, would outweigh any savings from lower wages overseas.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 08, 2021 03:23 PM (CX3cf)

205 175 Our enemies are shitting themselves they are laughing so hard
hope they stay out of the pool.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 08, 2021 03:23 PM (v3pYe)

206 It's always been a way to try and shift storage costs. If everyone shifts storage cost that means there is no on-hand inventory.

On the other hand a shortage is generally preferable for the producers compared to overproduction.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Until your customers figure out how to do without, leaving you with no customers.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:23 PM (SMh/7)

207 152 149 Just heard of a story:
"Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

There is no such thing as LGBTQ healthcare.
Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (Y5qcH)

I got $5 the case was about forcing doctors to perform reassignment surgery.

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:23 PM (Ojki1)

208 157 67 I can fix this. I was once a 6sigma certified black belt at GE

huh. now that you mention it, that's a term i've not heard in a while. used to be my e-mail was full of notifications about upcoming training sessions. wonder what happened.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (v3pYe)

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I'm old enough to remember the Japanese TQM (Total Quality Management) movement and training in corporate America.

Posted by: ShainS at July 08, 2021 03:23 PM (VPsrH)

209 It's always been a way to try and shift storage costs. If everyone shifts storage cost that means there is no on-hand inventory. On the other hand a shortage is generally preferable for the producers compared to overproduction.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 03:20 PM (z5Vrg)

Obviously you don't have an MBA, because I get the whiff of real-world in your comment!

Logistics managers at widget factories who plan for global pandemics are usually fired. It's insane to plan for a "Black Swan."

Some industries should probably have some sense of those rare events, but not most.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:24 PM (Q9lwr)

210 I strongly suspect that if we cut the regulatory burden to a sane level, the actual hourly wage would turn out to have practically no effect on outsourcing, and that the benefits of having employees and manufacturing more easily accessible for testing and changes, would outweigh any savings from lower wages overseas.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 08, 2021 03:23 PM (CX3cf)

It's mostly regulatory costs related to constructing a factory(which is abnormally expensive in the US). Most of the other costs end up balancing out.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 03:24 PM (z5Vrg)

211 209
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:24 PM (Q9lwr)

You don't say.......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (Zz0t1)

212 * Ding dong *

"Good afternoon. Have you had your Covid vaccine?"

"No, however I have been thinking a lot about Jehovahs Witness, do you have any pamphlets?"

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (v0R5T)

213 Having loads of parts arrive 12 seconds before they are needed on the assembly floor may not be wise, but smaller stocks is in general a very good thing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (Q9lwr)

To make this work, you don't need JIT writ large...you need pre-positioning, which has been done in the world's supply chain since forever. Distribution center locations need to be thought out very carefully. The problems with pre-positioning is knowing: 1. how close is close enough given transportation issues and receiving issues, 2. How much is supply is needed to be pre-positions and and when (you need to educate your buyers), and 3. What's the cost vs the benefit?

Posted by: Boswell at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (5iUNf)

214 The goal of the establishment at this point is to preserve the system at all costs. They are terrified of what happens when it all starts to collapse. Not just for their jobs, but when it finally crashes it's going to take a lot of society with it. Hence why they needed to get rid of Trump, why they need to continually pump out money to inflate the stock and housing markets, why they continually consolidate power into increasingly large and unaccountable bureaucracies. They are behaving like any organization which is overleveraged and desperate.
Posted by: Colorado Alex

Real smart. Get rid of the one guy that could fix most of it, because he understood it.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (SMh/7)

215 * Ding dong *

"Good afternoon. Have you had your Covid vaccine?"

"No, however I could use a couple Fuller brushes right about now."

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (v0R5T)

216 Engineers are great for doing the math, taking an idea and putting it on paper (sort of) but when it's time to build it, it goes to the technicians. They make it work. After they find all the "mistakes" (stuff the engineer overlooked because he doesn't have to deal with the real world (usually, there are exceptions).

Thus the world goes on. I'm sure the guy that invented fire had some overly complicated way of doing it but it was Org in the next cave over came up and said "You're doing it wrong" and proceeded to make it work every time and so that anyone could do it. (there are exceptions to technicians too but rarer.)

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (iDOB7)

217 I thought shipping containers were a dime a dozen

Posted by: Skip at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (Cxk7w)

218 As in most things, it works if it isn't taken to extremes. Having
loads of parts arrive 12 seconds before they are needed on the assembly
floor may not be wise, but smaller stocks is in general a very good
thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (Q9lwr)

If a material or component is critical to your industry - there is no stockpile big enough. Nobody that's ever been hungry looks at a pantry of canned goods and throws anything out.

If Ford could only write a check for those missing microchips that have killed over a year of heavy duty pickup production - they'd buy every one they could. They would, quite literally, take industrial stockpiling to the extreme.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (xQJTG)

219 As in most things, it works if it isn't taken to
extremes. Having loads of parts arrive 12 seconds before they are needed
on the assembly floor may not be wise, but smaller stocks is in general
a very good thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:18 PM (Q9lwr)

------------

The company I worked for went completely "build to order" rather
than keeping inventory levels of common parts, with orders being
generated when the inventory fell below a certain point and building to
order only the specialty stuff.

I lived it and it was a nightmare and I cannot believe we were the only ones who went down that road.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:21 PM (2SdPm)
Yup. For all my yelling about JIT, it's more about hey this means everything will get here immediately with no problems ever rather than what is the realistic smallest amount of stock we need on hand and then add 10% to account for normal human stupidity.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (mf5HN)

220 168 158 "Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

What is the context?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 08, 2021 03:13 PM (k39e/)

Probably tranny surgeries, maybe on children.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (z5Vrg)

Or giving kids hormone blockers.

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (Ojki1)

221
I got $5 the case was about forcing doctors to perform reassignment surgery.

Bake the cake bitch.
Cut the dick off bitch.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (MnEQs)

222 215 * Ding dong *

"Good afternoon. Have you had your Covid vaccine?"

"No, however I could use a couple Fuller brushes right about now."
Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (v0R5T)

===

"But first..."

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at July 08, 2021 03:27 PM (dfRN6)

223 172 What about Enterprise Zones?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM

The USS Enterprise? Nice boat, big and roomy.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (JUOKG)

That sock is perfect for that comment.

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (Ojki1)

224 >"Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

I assume that's code for "will allow doctors to opt out of cutting of a mentally ill guy's dick".

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (DXFDM)

225 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.

Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)

226 "Good afternoon. Have you had your Covid vaccine?"

Just fine, let me introduce you to Mr Glock and Mrs Barretta

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 08, 2021 03:29 PM (Irn0L)

227 225 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.
Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)

Need to double his female hormone dose then.

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 03:30 PM (UuD2k)

228 What about Enterprise Zones?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2021 03:14 PM

Remember..

It only takes one person with diarrhea in an Enterprise Zone to ruin it for everyone.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 08, 2021 03:30 PM (EERbD)

229 "No, but do you have any encyclopedias? No? How about Girl Scout cookies?"

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:30 PM (v0R5T)

230 In free trade theory the only factor in outsourcing production is shipping costs...which are quite low.
But the theory presumes there are no moral components (like say slave labor) and no political aspects (like say China being an enemy of the United States).

At the very least we should have non-trivial tariffs on places like China, which you'll note is what Trump did, so we don't end up buying things made by slaves...or finding ourselves short on having goods to buy...produced by slaves.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:31 PM (DpkTQ)

231 I strongly suspect that if we cut the regulatory burden to a sane level, the actual hourly wage would turn out to have practically no effect on outsourcing, and that the benefits of having employees and manufacturing more easily accessible for testing and changes, would outweigh any savings from lower wages overseas.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 08, 2021 03:23 PM (CX3cf)

Yup. Trump's biggest move was slashing regulatory burdens for industries. Unfortunately Paul Ryan was too much of a cuck and a traitor to get the GOP establishment behind him on this.

And it seems to me that it's a circular problem. Regulations drive industries overseas, which makes it cheaper for other industries to move, and cheap overseas goods make the cost of increased regulations here relatively "cheaper" for the end consumer. This benefits politicians, especially progressives, since it allows them to use regulations to shape what kind of businesses are permitted in their states and localities.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 08, 2021 03:31 PM (jOcSX)

232 What's weird is that most of our corporate and political elites concurred that it was imperative to outsource as much manufacturing and raw material production as possible, yet these stunningly brilliant Principled Free Trader never once considered the likelihood or consequences of transportation interruptions.

1. Outsource all manufacturing
2. Create a service only economy
3. Eliminate service only economy
4. Communism

/also, FWIW, China is at war with the world, but the world is in denial and terrified.

Posted by: shibumi at July 08, 2021 03:31 PM (BvZkh)

233 If a material or component is critical to your
industry - there is no stockpile big enough. Nobody that's ever been
hungry looks at a pantry of canned goods and throws anything out.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (xQJTG)

I'll argue this all day over a beer or five, but I think it is dependent on the final product and the cost of the critical components. If holding a stockpile of critical components locks up too much capital, then the company suffers...perhaps more than it would during a shutdown/slowdown because of supply chain problems.

It's really fucking complicated, which is why it's so interesting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:32 PM (Q9lwr)

234 "Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

What is the context?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 08, 2021 03:13 PM (k39e/)

Probably tranny surgeries, maybe on children.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 08, 2021 03:15 PM (z5Vrg)

Or giving kids hormone blockers.
Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (Ojki1)

For all my bitching about DeWine this is something right in his wheelhouse.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:32 PM (g5I2H)

235 Nike owns Converse.

So, they bought it to shut it down?

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 08, 2021 03:32 PM (xopIz)

236 Ohio allows doctors to deny LGBTQ healthcare on moral grounds."
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2021 03:11 PM (L2ZTs)

I assume that's code for "will allow doctors to opt out of cutting of a mentally ill guy's dick".
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (DXFDM)

Common sense, and moral

Now let's see what the Leftist Media Complex does with it.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 03:32 PM (mR6Gs)

237 225 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.
Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)

Because he knows he can indulge his perversion and kink of public nudity if he claims to be a chick.

Didn't know "girl"-peens could get hard. That's something I didn't learn in basic bio.

Posted by: Thrawn at July 08, 2021 03:33 PM (wQb4c)

238 225 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.
Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)

David French and Jonah Goldberg have been ruled out as suspects.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 08, 2021 03:33 PM (KbCG3)

239 What's weird is that most of our corporate and political elites
concurred that it was imperative to outsource as much manufacturing and
raw material production as possible
One company I worked out tried to move manufacturing to China. Twice. Each time the companies they partnered with stole their IP and set up a competing business.
How did Bush 43 put it? "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me you can't get fooled again."

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:34 PM (DpkTQ)

240 Questioner: "We understand you use slave labor when making a lot of your products."

CCP: "Not true. We have happy fun camp working environment and our people are thrilled to be raising their standard of living!"

Questioner: "Okay, then why the nets around the exterior of your taller manufacturing buildings?"

CCP: "Oh, sometimes people get so excited about their job, they jump out of the window and forget they're very high in the air. Safety first!"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:34 PM (2SdPm)

241 Quick note to Sharon:

If you need screws, there's a national fastener chain called Fastenal that can provide all sorts of odd stuff, and there's probably one near you.

(Also probably helpful: Grainger, Motion Industries and Mcmaster Carr.)

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain: Chernyenko my coat at the cleaners at July 08, 2021 03:34 PM (Clxcy)

242 At the very least we should have non-trivial tariffs
on places like China, which you'll note is what Trump did, so we don't
end up buying things made by slaves...or finding ourselves short on
having goods to buy...produced by slaves.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:31 PM (DpkTQ)

Before I die - which hopefully won't be for a couple more decades - China is going to do the only thing it can do. China can't project power across the Pacific and claim a single damn thing here. But they're going to claim every Nike, GM, and whatever else plant was built over there.

When they do, the patriotic call will go out here to raise an army and go over there and take it all back. I plan on doing whatever I can to convince the young men in my clan to tell Uncle Sam to fuck off in that case.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:34 PM (xQJTG)

243 not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone

Ahoy!

Posted by: Little Admiral Kristol at July 08, 2021 03:34 PM (W4eKo)

244 dartist if he was getting his jolly running around naked in the women's room why would he be carrying a hard wood?

Posted by: Skip at July 08, 2021 03:35 PM (Cxk7w)

245 225 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.
Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)
........

Sounds like she was not impressed.

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:35 PM (v0R5T)

246 Their inventory can be lean because we carried it for them.

Posted by: GnuBreed (FoYaR) at July 08, 2021 03:12 PM (F0YaR)

The manufacturers want you to carry it for them because the manufacturers get taxed for parts on shelf waiting to be used.

Yay! Tax incentives that help people with lobbyists.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 08, 2021 03:35 PM (ySM85)

247 * Ding dong *

"Good afternoon. Have you had your Covid vaccine?"

"No, however I could use a couple Fuller brushes right about now."
Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (v0R5T)

===

"But first..."
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at July 08, 2021 03:27 PM

Dear Penthouse Forum....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (m+jkK)

248 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.
Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)

I'm willing to bet that he's trying to get kicked out so that he can sue.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (jOcSX)

249 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.
Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)

At any other time in human history this guy would be beaten so hard, he'd quickly lose that hard-on.

Permanently.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (mR6Gs)

250 (Also probably helpful: Grainger, Motion Industries and Mcmaster Carr.)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain: Chernyenko my coat at the cleaners at July 08, 2021 03:34 PM (Clxcy)

McMaster Carr has an awesome website.

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (UuD2k)

251 I'll argue this all day over a beer or five, but I think it is dependent on the final product and the cost of the critical components. If holding a stockpile of critical components locks up too much capital, then the company suffers...perhaps more than it would during a shutdown/slowdown because of supply chain problems.
It's really fucking complicated, which is why it's so interesting.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:32 PM (Q9lwr)

There a college degree now in shipping and supply chain logistics. The job itself, right out of college, pays very nicely as it's a profession that's undersupplied right now.

U of Arkansas is one of the big schools in this area should you have some kiddos college bound.

Also it's a big dealio in the AI section of the business world.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (EERbD)

252 LOL. How many guys are taking a piss behind the building or in the bushes and get busted for "indecent exposure" and become registered sex offenders while this guy has a fucking erection?

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (xopIz)

253
I'm willing to bet that he's trying to get kicked out so that he can sue.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (jOcSX)

I'm betting he's queer too

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (mR6Gs)

254 I strongly suspect that if we cut the regulatory burden to a sane
level, the actual hourly wage would turn out to have practically no
effect on outsourcing
Every outsourcing job to the third world I've been part of involved minders basically making sure China, India, or wherever didn't f*ckup too much.

Most of the time the projects were objectively failures...but due to the magic of different cost centers for the offshore team, the minders, support, mitigation, and legal you could make it look like you were saving the company a ton of money.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:37 PM (DpkTQ)

255 If Ford could only write a check for those missing microchips that have killed over a year of heavy duty pickup production -

Why didn't the buy a small boutique chip fab?

Posted by: Jean at July 08, 2021 03:37 PM (Xih1H)

256 Blake: That reminds me of that scene in the Firefly episode Jaynestown: "We pay them nothing, and pass the savings on to you!"

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain: Chernyenko my coat at the cleaners at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (Clxcy)

257 It's really fucking complicated, which is why it's so interesting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Old sayings are the best sayings. One in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Two being JIT and your shit is sitting in the Straits of Hormus vs one in hand being a warehouse out back full of product.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (SMh/7)

258 221
I got $5 the case was about forcing doctors to perform reassignment surgery.

Bake the cake bitch.
Cut the dick off bitch.
Posted by: Getting the banned back together at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (MnEQs)

But your tweet is mean, Banned!

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (Ojki1)

259 How many guys are taking a piss behind the building or in the bushes and get busted for "indecent exposure" and become registered sex offenders while this guy has a fucking erection?
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (xopIz)

That to me is ridiculous. Guys have always taken pisses outside--in bushes, behind trees, between trucks in a parking lot

Some joker had to wave it around though and ruin it fore everyone else.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (mR6Gs)

260 Don't get me started on scamming consultants who get paid beaucoup bucks
to push The Toyota Way on every type of manufacturing concern, no
matter the differences with the Japanese auto industry. Also the idiot
CEOs and assorted high-level managers who enthusiastically push this
shit, then get a golden parachute when things fall apart. ---------------------------- JIT isn't sold by consultants, it is incentivized by our regulations, laws, and taxes. Inventory is taxed. We have laws against "price gouging." Then you add the financing and insurance part to the equation.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (sX1BW)

261 >>Your Christmas shopping this year could be held up by a staggering shipping backlog in China's southern ports.

Then he loaded some bags and some old empty sacks;
On a ramshackle sleigh and he whistled for Max...

Posted by: ZOD at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (xK9An)

262 >David French and Jonah Goldberg have been ruled out as suspects.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 08, 2021 03:33 PM (KbCG3)

**SNORT**

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (DXFDM)

263 Hasn't China already done that takeover with some companies?

I thought I read that happened to some companies that moved their factory, setup the plant and then the Chinese kicked them out.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (iDOB7)

264 >>> Engineers are great for doing the math, taking an idea and putting it on paper (sort of) but when it's time to build it, it goes to the technicians. They make it work. After they find all the "mistakes" (stuff the engineer overlooked because he doesn't have to deal with the real world (usually, there are exceptions).
Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM (iDOB7)

In many large manufacturing industries, it's engineers all the way down. Any and all of the roles you've assigned to that "technician" are supplied by an engineer. That's one of my basic roles as an engineer actually. Telling other people why their ideas are all of suckiness and how they need to be better. My job title is actually listed as an upper-tier technical scientist, but that just means old-ass engineer.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (6Phnr)

265 McMaster Carr has an awesome website.

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (UuD2k)

100 gas key bolts for about the price that most gun stores sell two.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:39 PM (Q9lwr)

266 >>>>* Ding dong *

"Good afternoon. Have you had your Covid vaccine?"

"Nope. Got any Thin Mints?"

Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 08, 2021 03:39 PM (iTXRQ)

267 225 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.
Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)

Don't believe it for a second as trans people don't do that!

Posted by: "Jessica" Whatever, Canada at July 08, 2021 03:39 PM (Ojki1)

268 Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM

exactly.

Except you do not say NO. You answer their question with another question. Never, ever give them the information. If they say you have not been vaccinated, dispute it. Tell them to go back home and get the updated information. If they say tyou HAVE had the vax, dispute that too. Are you sure you have the right Ebeneezer Q. Bickle?

Posted by: rd at July 08, 2021 03:39 PM (Z32m1)

269 Before: Trannys won't just walk around naked around normal women because it arouses them, that's crazy Christian nutter talk!
Now: Just because a woman with a hard on standing next to you makes you uncomfortable is your problem not hers!

Soon: The fact you won't suck her female dick shows you are a dangerous hater.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:39 PM (DpkTQ)

270 Yes. I'm willing to suffer some - just for the pleasure of watching certain groups suffer more.
Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:09 PM (xQJTG)

Yes, bring on the $15/gallon gas and $12/dozen eggs. A bunch of leftist dummies need to feel unavoidable pain.

Posted by: clutch at July 08, 2021 03:40 PM (9UmRs)

271 OF COURSE there's a shortage of containers.

They're making them into houses now.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

272 252 LOL. How many guys are taking a piss behind the building or in the bushes and get busted for "indecent exposure" and become registered sex offenders while this guy has a fucking erection?
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 08, 2021 03:36 PM (xopIz)
--------------
Back in the simpler days of Spring Break '85, a friend of mine got a ticket in florida while peeing in the bushes at a KFC. Ticket was for "public masturbation" lol (someone should warn pete?)

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs (qIQLc) at July 08, 2021 03:40 PM (qIQLc)

273 JIT also socializes the losses while allowing the benefits to all flow to the top - i.e., the money people.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:41 PM (sX1BW)

274 At any other time in human history this guy would be beaten so hard, he'd quickly lose that hard-on.

Yep. This is how far we have fallen.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 08, 2021 03:41 PM (nxdel)

275 >>but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me.
Posted by: dartist at July 08, 2021 03:28 PM (+ya+t)

Just because you can means that you should.

Posted by: ZOD at July 08, 2021 03:41 PM (xK9An)

276 Posted by: banana Dream at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (6Phnr)

Yeah. You're an overeducated technician. But that's all to the good.

You know what I mean tho. No disparaging of Engineers.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:41 PM (iDOB7)

277 Paul Ryan was too much of a cuck and a traitor to get the GOP establishment behind him on this.

After Trump’s election, I have to wonder if there’s some sort of random handout when new reps come in. Okay, you’re going to be the expert on frabbles, you’re going to be the expert on fribbles, and your job is to make it look like we want these things but to make absolutely certain we don’t get them.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 08, 2021 03:41 PM (CX3cf)

278 229 "No, but do you have any encyclopedias? No? How about Girl Scout cookies?"
Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:30 PM (v0R5T)

A lot of place have been seeing donations of Girl Scout cookies. One might think coworkers not badgering their officemates to buy their kids crap cause everyone is at home, or maybe people deciding they don't need Wokescout cookies might be behind this.

In this case, Get woke, get broke...to crumbs.

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:42 PM (Ojki1)

279 Why didn't the buy a small boutique chip fab?
Posted by: Jean at July 08, 2021 03:37 PM (Xih1H)

Because the costs of doing so are always going to be more than the perceived costs of simply enduring in the short term. The problem is a mismatch in time frames: if it would take two years to get the chip fabs integrated into their supply chain, and cost 10% more, versus taking the hit for a year and then paying for cheaper imported chips, they will go with taking the hit.

Sort of how the left kept saying, "oh, those oil and gas developments won't seriously produce for ten years!" whenever gas prices spiked and conservatives would argue that we needed more domestic production.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 08, 2021 03:42 PM (jOcSX)

280 Local news reporting on DOCTOR Jill de-planing at Sav Int'l Airport, and she's wearing her signature floral coach upholstery, with what appears to be some sort of boob belt. And that hair is all over the place.

What a mess.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:42 PM (ptqGC)

281 I'm not even a MechE and I think McMaster-Carr is awesome, but tbh I usually just hit the local Ace Hardware. They more often than not have the hardware I need, unless it's something really obscure.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (DXFDM)

282 How many guys are taking a piss behind the building or in the bushes and get busted for "indecent exposure" and become registered sex offenders while this guy has a fucking erection?

Happened to my son. Him and a buddy were smoking some pot, got silly and had to pee. Got busted by the cops. Took a pretty penny to get him out of that one. This was when he was 18. Young and stupid.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (nxdel)

283 I'll admit for a hot minute, I bought into the Koch lies that trade with China would somehow make them nice and we'd "win" because they would want our Coca-Cola and McDonalds. Of course it was all bullshit.

Meanwhile China was not only actively destroying all of our industries, was clearly hostile to us with their military and were even persecuting Christians. But we kept sending them trillions.

But the conservative take was "THIS IS THE WAY, YOU'RE A LIBERAL IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT FREE TRADE!!!!"

Posted by: Blago at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (QM1Uz)

284 Damn Republicans! First they defund the police and now they're pouncing on rising crime!

THERE it is! NBC News reports that Republicans are seizing on concerns about rising crime

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (d9FiS)

285 And it seems to me that it's a circular problem.

Yup. Some of these regulations really do seem like they’re trying to drive businesses away. Which is easier to do, the fewer there are to complain.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (CX3cf)

286 Who owns whom, the debtor or the debtee.

We 'owe' China Trillions. What if we tell China to go fuck their dead aunt?

Who's in more trouble?

Starts with a 'C'. They can try to reposess..... What, exactly? And how??

We got China by the short & curlies and they don't even know it

Posted by: Uncle Rick at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (48/MM)

287 Local news reporting on DOCTOR Jill de-planing at Sav Int'l Airport, and she's wearing her signature floral coach upholstery, with what appears to be some sort of boob belt. And that hair is all over the place.

What a mess.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:42 PM (ptqGC)

You know what they say.....

You can take the trash out of the trailer.......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)

288 If holding a stockpile of critical components locks up too much capital,
then the company suffers...perhaps more than it would during a
shutdown/slowdown because of supply chain problems.

If that component is truly critical - as in, you can't sell that new F-250 or F-350 without that chip, and your entire business strategy is based around producing heavy duty trucks at high margin - then the allocation of capital doesn't really matter. Because without that component, your company dies. The opportunity cost of building that stockpile implies a few assumptions. Mainly - and here's the biggy - that management could do anything better with that money anyway. That's usually not true.

Ford's position is not complicated at all. They believed in JIT for a critical component that they can't control. Believe me - they'd fill Fort Knox with chips today if they could, and damn the opportunity cost.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (xQJTG)

289 We survived wuflu early on. Why would we want vaccinations?

Posted by: DanMan at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (RusNE)

290 We got China by the short curlies and they don't even know it
They bought our politicians to make sure we pay.
Smartest insurance on a debt anyone has ever paid.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (DpkTQ)

291
I can actually hear McConnell saying Fribbles and Frabbles.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (mR6Gs)

292 The bottom line on this trans rights thing is you don;t have to prove you are doing anything to transition other than wearing clothing that looks like the sex you are claiming to be. Except for competing in sports, yu don;t have to take a hormone test or get surgery. You don;t even have to take hormones or get a doctor's note. All you have to say is that you "feel like a woman" and off you go privy to locker rooms, bathrooms, spas, beauty salons, waxing places and any other woman only place you want to hang out(literally).

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (sd8p8)

293 At any other time in human history this guy would be beaten so hard, he'd quickly lose that hard-on.
Posted by: Jewells45 at July 08, 2021 03:41 PM (nxdel)

And he'd be beaten by the women. Forget about the guys. They'd be wondering what all the screaming was about.

These women just let that happen? We've become a think twice country. We've gotten so unsure of ourselves (rightfully as there is always someone ready to sue) that no one (well few) does the right thing right then.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (iDOB7)

294 "Local news reporting on DOCTOR Jill de-planing at Sav Int'l Airport, and she's wearing her signature floral coach upholstery, with what appears to be some sort of boob belt. And that hair is all over the place.

What a mess.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:42 PM (ptqGC)"

Hopefully it's a typical Savannah day with 95% humidity. In about 5 minutes her hair will look like a scarecrow whose been out in the sun all day.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 03:45 PM (Fdwku)

295 I'll argue this all day over a beer or five, but I think it is dependent on the final product and the cost of the critical components. If holding a stockpile of critical components locks up too much capital, then the company suffers...perhaps more than it would during a shutdown/slowdown because of supply chain problems.

It's really fucking complicated, which is why it's so interesting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:32 PM (Q9lwr)

Charlie, East of Omaha is correct. Ford would pay nearly anything to have those computer chips for the PCMs in Super Duty trucks. I know it up close and personal, trust me.

Posted by: clutch at July 08, 2021 03:45 PM (9UmRs)

296 Soon: The fact you won't suck her female dick shows you are a dangerous hater.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:39 PM (DpkTQ)

.....

It'll be a tight race between "Have an interracial baby or your racist" and "Fuck a tranny or your transphobic".

I'd say even money at this point.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 08, 2021 03:45 PM (5We2S)

297 My job title is actually listed as an upper-tier technical scientist, but that just means old-ass engineer.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (6Phnr)
------------

Years ago, when I was doing inventory for the small manufacturing company, I had to explain to an engineer that a 20' piece of tubing does not yield two 10' pieces. I further went on to explain about the width of the saw blade and all tubing, before being cut to size, the end has to be trimmed, because it is damaged.

I was trying to figure out why we had so much off fall from a certain diameter of tubing. What really irritated me, though, is the foreman should stepped up and mentioned the problem long before I noticed it. Best guess: he couldn't be bothered.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:45 PM (2SdPm)

298 So DOCTOR Jill is going to be haranguing a mostly black audience about getting the vaccine. Accompanying her is the Most Reverend Senator Raphael Warnock, and our idiot mayor Van "Cuomo" Johnson.

Dear SMOD.......

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (ptqGC)

299 I hope the supply chain meltdown hurts. But I can also hope people give props to Biden, even if a Trump idea, getting us out of Afghanistan. We are out of that fucked up place. This country is fixing to go through some serious road to Babylon shit, regardless

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (oWBc3)

300 No spectators at the olympics? What's the point of having them. Isn't the reason most countries bid on the oly is too get tourism?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (r+sAi)

301 Yup. Some of these regulations really do seem like they're trying to drive businesses away. Which is easier to do, the fewer there are to complain.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (CX3cf)

Some of it is aesthetics. Warehouses and waterfront manufacturing icky and that space is better suited to a new gay nightlife district and overpriced lofts for millennials working in tech startups.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (jOcSX)

302 277 ...
After Trump's election, I have to wonder if there's some sort of random handout when new reps come in.
-=-----------------------

Common practice based on how supine one is and how much money he can bring in to the e

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (ElqsY)

303 Ole Steel Trap Mind is a little rusty.

https://bit.ly/3jXIZHf

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (d9FiS)

304 I will say this about Republicans- at the state and local level they are usually 100X more competent than Democrats.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (mR6Gs)

305 Charlie, East of Omaha is correct. Ford would pay nearly anything to have those computer chips for the PCMs in Super Duty trucks. I know it up close and personal, trust me.
Posted by: clutch at July 08, 2021 03:45 PM (9UmRs)

Is it a requirement that the chips work? I'm sensing a business opportunity here.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (CwyYd)

306 Hopefully it's a typical Savannah day with 95% humidity. In about 5 minutes her hair will look like a scarecrow whose been out in the sun all day.

--

Her hair starts out that way. It's straw. I know she can't help what kind of hair she has, but she has terrible style that extends to her hairstyle as well. She needs to chop that hay bale off and wear it short.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (O+I8R)

307
Ford's position is not complicated at all. They believed in JIT for a critical component that they can't control. Believe me - they'd fill Fort Knox with chips today if they could, and damn the opportunity cost.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (xQJTG)

It's called 3rd party logistics. They pay someone to warehouse, manage, possibly preassemble and deliver the critical components. If the 3rd party fails, there's significant fines.

They ALL do this. They lasted longer than they should have with the current shortages in components because they were doing it this way.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

308 233 If a material or component is critical to your
industry - there is no stockpile big enough. Nobody that's ever been
hungry looks at a pantry of canned goods and throws anything out.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:26 PM (xQJTG)

I'll argue this all day over a beer or five, but I think it is dependent on the final product and the cost of the critical components. If holding a stockpile of critical components locks up too much capital, then the company suffers...perhaps more than it would during a shutdown/slowdown because of supply chain problems.
It's really fucking complicated, which is why it's so interesting.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:32 PM (Q9lwr)

Isn't that the essential argument of Just in Time Logistics? The 'locks up too much capital' is where things rub the bar.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (8C7+r)

309 298 So DOCTOR Jill is going to be haranguing a mostly black audience about getting the vaccine. Accompanying her is the Most Reverend Senator Raphael Warnock, and our idiot mayor Van "Cuomo" Johnson.

Dear SMOD.......
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (ptqGC)

if only

Posted by: It's me donna at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (Zmnko)

310 Your Christmas shopping this year could be held up by a staggering shipping backlog in China's southern ports.

------

Who buys Chinese ammo for Christmas? Cheap. Sad.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (Ink9N)

311 Government controlled aesthetics

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (ElqsY)

312 And just like that, the Lord has opened the Heavens and we're getting another downpour. Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (ptqGC)

313 "No, but do you have any encyclopedias? No? How about Girl Scout cookies?"
Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:30 PM (v0R5T)

I get a perverse joy out of telling the little beggars, "I won't buy your cookies because the Girl Scouts support murdering little babies. Ask mommy to tell you why the Girl Scouts murder little babies."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (2JVJo)

314 Old saying: if you owe the bank a thousand dollars, the bank owns you.

If you owe the bank a million dollars, you own the bank.

(adjust the numbers as needed for inflation. And the value of the dollar.)

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (iDOB7)

315 Fucking bitch sold me girl scout cookies 20 years ago at work, whore never delivered. Fuck em.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at July 08, 2021 03:48 PM (MnEQs)

316 >>299 I hope the supply chain meltdown hurts.
Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (oWBc3)

Quelle surprise, it's being used as a competitive prod in contracts large and small. "Commit Now, because we can't guarantee supply Later."

Posted by: ZOD at July 08, 2021 03:48 PM (xK9An)

317 Mainly - and here's the biggy - that management could do anything better with that money anyway. That's usually not true.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (xQJTG)

And here is proof you aren't an MBA!

I agree with most of what you say, but in many cases it isn't a binary choice. And predicting global shortages of particular kinds of chips and acting accordingly is difficult. How long will Ford carry a multi-billion dollar chip plant on the books before some genius sells it and buys...whatever...? As I mentioned, planning for Black Swan events is tough.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:48 PM (Q9lwr)

318 In Software Engineering, the engineers build it.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 08, 2021 03:48 PM (xopIz)

319 Isn't that the essential argument of Just in Time Logistics? The 'locks up too much capital' is where things rub the bar. ------------------------ Yes, but if you structured the tax system to "reward" or at least not penalize holding inventory, the capital issue would change.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:48 PM (sX1BW)

320 290
They bought our politicians to make sure we pay.
Smartest insurance on a debt anyone has ever paid.

> Yes, they did. But they won't be in Office forever and the Chinese aren't stoopid. We own their asses.

But we need them, too. bigly

They can't blink. They got over 1.5 Billion to feed. And we can tool-up quick if we have to. Remember WWII??

I'm not worried about them right now at all. They need us more than we need them.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at July 08, 2021 03:48 PM (48/MM)

321 >>> Posted by: banana Dream at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (6Phnr)

Yeah. You're an overeducated technician. But that's all to the good.

You know what I mean tho. No disparaging of Engineers.
Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:41 PM (iDOB7)

I agree totally. What I and other people expect out of new engineers, kids out of college has definitely changed from the days of the nerd pit full of white-shirted number crunchers who never step out on the factory floor or into maintenance bays. It's a different world now and they simply don't know how much better they are for it.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (6Phnr)

322 >>I get a perverse joy out of telling the little beggars, "I won't buy your cookies because the Girl Scouts support murdering little babies. Ask mommy to tell you why the Girl Scouts murder little babies."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (2JVJo)

You didn't say that. It's clever, but you didn't say that.

Say you didn't say that.

Posted by: ZOD at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (xK9An)

323 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me

There is another solution to this that does not involve the police or management. She should talk to her daughter and mock him. Brutally. Humiliate him and his penis. If she is talking to her daughter, it will not be a hate crime.

Posted by: shibumi at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (BvZkh)

324 It'll be a tight race between "Have an interracial baby or your racist" and "Fuck a tranny or your transphobic".
Darn, ok SHAKIRA apparently we have to make a baby. Since you are like 40 or something it might take a while. Oh no.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (DpkTQ)

325 And just like that, the Lord has opened the Heavens and we're getting another downpour. Heh.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (ptqGC)

Happening up and down the East Coast.

Prolly from the Hurricane moving this way. Raining here in PA

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (iDOB7)

326 268 Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM

exactly.

Except you do not say NO. You answer their question with another question. Never, ever give them the information. If they say you have not been vaccinated, dispute it. Tell them to go back home and get the updated information. If they say tyou HAVE had the vax, dispute that too. Are you sure you have the right Ebeneezer Q. Bickle?
Posted by: rd at July 08, 2021 03:39 PM (Z32m1)

I can't tell you cause HiPPA won't let me.

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (Ojki1)

327 "Is it a requirement that the chips work? I'm sensing a business opportunity here.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont"

I've developed this plug in Raspberry PI interface. Just stick it in your OBD port. Makes your truck go faster too. Only $39.99.

Posted by: f'd at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (Tnijr)

328 Inventory is taxed.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:38 PM (sX1BW)

When I worked in NE, I was told the tax on inventory was 14% per YEAR. Imagine having to balance that against a two year lead time for a part that should last for 40 years, but randomly fails anywhere from just after installation to maybe every 20 years to never fails?

Oh, and if the part fails, the other $100 million dollars in parts and 500 people are sidelined until it is replaced and working.

Then you find out the design was changed just before your predecessor replaced all eight of them, and the first new ones all had a defect that killed them in 2-3 years.

Posted by: rd at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (Z32m1)

329 269 Before: Trannys won't just walk around naked around normal women because it arouses them, that's crazy Christian nutter talk!
Now: Just because a woman with a hard on standing next to you makes you uncomfortable is your problem not hers!

Soon: The fact you won't suck her female dick shows you are a dangerous hater.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:39 PM (DpkTQ)

Better: Make them collectable. As in taxidermy. (Disclaimer: might be the vodka talking)

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (8C7+r)

330 Tell the Girl Scouts you can't afford the cookies but would like to have some for free because your family is starving.

That creates quite the conundrum.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (5We2S)

331 As I mentioned, planning for Black Swan events is tough. ---------------------- Frankly, if you are of a certain size, it is unnecessary. Ask GM.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (sX1BW)

332 I can actually hear McConnell saying Fribbles and Frabbles.

<snort>.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (CX3cf)

333 Yes, but if you structured the tax system to "reward" or at least not penalize holding inventory, the capital issue would change.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:48 PM (sX1BW)
--------

That's a big part of it.

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 03:51 PM (ElqsY)

334 Thought the storm had passed GA on to VA.

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 03:51 PM (ElqsY)

335 Welp, had to turn off the news app on my phone. Jill is waving her arms around and yakking. She's becoming quite the scold.

First "Lady" Karen Biden.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:51 PM (ptqGC)

336 Is it a requirement that the chips work? I'm sensing a business opportunity here.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 08, 2021 03:46 PM (CwyYd)

Yes, lol.

Those Super Duty trucks print money for Ford.

Posted by: clutch at July 08, 2021 03:51 PM (9UmRs)

337 Isn't that the essential argument of Just in Time Logistics? The 'locks up too much capital' is where things rub the bar.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (8C7+r)

Yes, but the answer isn't to shrink supply to nothing, it is to manage it intelligently. And my real point is that with some things it's really tough to plan around Black Swan events...especially with chips that require multi-billion dollar plants that are obsolete almost as soon as they start up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Q9lwr)

338 Yes, lol.

Those Super Duty trucks print money for Ford.
Posted by: clutch at July 08, 2021 03:51 PM (9UmRs)

Because they're bad ass.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Zz0t1)

339 CONTAINER SHORTAGE!!

Posted by: runner at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Z7oqE)

340 >>There is another solution to this that does not involve the police or management. She should talk to her daughter and mock him. Brutally. Humiliate him and his penis. If she is talking to her daughter, it will not be a hate crime.
Posted by: shibumi at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (BvZkh)

Nothing flattens a curve faster than a little girl asking her mom "Why is it so tiny?"

Posted by: Roy at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Ti+Tv)

341 Whatever happened to a good throat punch where you crush the larynx and watch them regret their life? Is this not acceptable etiquette when someone exposes their penis to women?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Fdwku)

342 When the vaccine door-knockers come to my door, I'm just gonna drop trou and say 'we in business?'

Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (iTXRQ)

343 When I worked in NE, I was told the tax on inventory was 14% per YEAR. Imagine having to balance that against a two year lead time for a part that should last for 40 years, but randomly fails anywhere from just after installation to maybe every 20 years to never fails?

Oh, and if the part fails, the other $100 million dollars in parts and 500 people are sidelined until it is replaced and working.

Then you find out the design was changed just before your predecessor replaced all eight of them, and the first new ones all had a defect that killed them in 2-3 years.
Posted by: rd at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (Z32m1)
---------------

You make an interesting point: JIT was perhaps a logical result of grotesque tax policy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (2SdPm)

344 Like rats down the manila line into their cardboard lifeboats.

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 03:53 PM (ElqsY)

345 CONTAINER SHORTAGE!!
Posted by: runner at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Z7oqE)

*channels AltonJackson*

Another grim milestone for the Biden administration.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

346 312 And just like that, the Lord has opened the Heavens and we're getting another downpour. Heh.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (ptqGC)
-----
Hey Jane!
How did you fare with Elsa? I heard there was a tornado over at Kings Bay but didn't see much else about it...

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs (qIQLc) at July 08, 2021 03:53 PM (qIQLc)

347 Wasps are asshoe.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 08, 2021 03:53 PM (5atWK)

348 Home Depot loves price gouging laws because Home Depot is big enough run their stores as JIT by diverting product from one part of the country to an area hit by a weather disaster. Then they run commercials showing what good neighbors they are. Meanwhile, the local hardware guy who tries to buy a bunch of generators and chain saws, spends his own capital on the chance that they may be needed, is prohibited from selling them at double the price even though customers are willing to pay. He cannot do JIT, but he cannot benefit from taking a risk.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:53 PM (sX1BW)

349 Nope. I have it on good word there is a severe thunderstorm just south of savannah. This thing is hitting up and down the east coast.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 03:54 PM (Fdwku)

350
dis bitch seems to want to enforce lease laws. Who voted her dogcatcher, from UK Daily Mail

Woman tries to lure dog into traffic on NYC street after berating its Asian owner for walking it without a leash and threatening to call police

The video, which was initially posted by u/tefunka on Reddit's PublicFreakout page, begins with the woman appearing annoyed at the dog's owners, and complaining to them about not having their dog on a leash. 'Why are you harassing us?'' another woman, who is not shown in the video, asks the woman. 'Have you never heard of a leash in the city?' the woman, referred to as 'Karen' in the video, responds. 'We'll wait for the police to clear it up.'

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 08, 2021 03:54 PM (bTQ72)

351 Wasps are asshoe.
Stop hording all that delicious sugar water!

Posted by: Some Wasp at July 08, 2021 03:54 PM (DpkTQ)

352 ---------------

You make an interesting point: JIT was perhaps a logical result of grotesque tax policy.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (2SdPm)

Funny thing about inventory taxes.

If you put things on truck trailers, they're not in inventory. Of course, you only need orders, or pre-orders to be 'legal...'

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

353 >Ford's position is not complicated at all. They believed in JIT for a critical component that they can't control. Believe me - they'd fill Fort Knox with chips today if they could, and damn the opportunity cost.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:44 PM (xQJTG)

Yeah, JIT may make more sense with commodity stock like steel or whatever, but obviously we can see how easy it is to get in trouble with something more specialized. Like CBD said, the idea of not carrying excess inventory is a good general idea, but it's being taken to the extreme.

I do wonder if fabs with older process nodes are being spooled up to pick up the slack for industries like auto manufacturers. I doubt they need the latest 10 nm/7 nm nodes for their chips. I've seen the infotainment systems in a brand new vehicle, they're still underpowered compared to a generic Android tablet.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 03:54 PM (DXFDM)

354 And here is proof you aren't an MBA!

Heh. Thanks for the laugh. We ain't arguing, just talking. That was a Hell of a compliment though. I actually tried out a couple night classes for a cut rate community college MBA, back when I was younger and just starting on the road to my current bitter state. That exercise lasted about four weeks. Just awful.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 03:54 PM (xQJTG)

355 Thought the storm had passed GA on to VA.

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 03:51 PM (ElqsY)

It hit us last night (the worst possible time) and we're getting a few delayed rain bands. A tornado hit a nice RV park at Kings Bay Naval Station in St. Mary's, GA, frequented by military retirees and families, destroying all the RVs, even tossing a big one into the lake with the family inside.

Fortunately, no nuclear subs were damaged. That would have been...bad.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:55 PM (ptqGC)

356 If a port buys a shipping container made in china, is it shipped in a bigger shipping container?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 08, 2021 03:55 PM (5atWK)

357 You make an interesting point: JIT was perhaps a logical result of grotesque tax policy. -------------------- Chicken or egg, and not the only reason we have JIT. But the tax policy (including local taxes) definitely favors JIT.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:55 PM (sX1BW)

358 >>330 Tell the Girl Scouts you can't afford the cookies but would like to have some for free because your family is starving. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 08, 2021 03:50 PM (5We2S)

That *is* clever. The little lady turns to the mom who's been task-mastering her young panhandling workforce. "Can we just, umm, give him some?"

"Umm, no, honey, that's not how it works."

"But I'm hungry."

"He's hungry, mom."

"He can pay."

"I think we can all learn something from this exchange. Don't you, Mom?"

Posted by: ZOD at July 08, 2021 03:55 PM (xK9An)

359 it's been raining on the coastal bend of Texas for at least a week.

imm go hop in my Glastron F150 and shake some mud off

Posted by: DanMan at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (RusNE)

360 Hide your nest in a tree, then get pissed off at me when I cut down the branch.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (5atWK)

361 If you read some of the online comments, they may want to rethink knocking on people's doors about the vaccine. Either that or they should give the solicitors good insurance.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (Fdwku)

362 chips that require multi-billion dollar plants that are obsolete almost as soon as they start up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Q9lwr)

That's not really the case with chip fabs. As the chip feature size shrinks, less demanding parts are made on the older tech. They don't just become obsolete overnight, or nobody would bother building them.

Posted by: flounder at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (KnJdm)

363 lease=leash

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (bTQ72)

364 356 If a port buys a shipping container made in china, is it shipped in a bigger shipping container?
you can't fool me. it's shipping containers all the way down.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (v3pYe)

365 Let me just throw this out there because I am not an auto builder, but maybe somebody could build a car without a chip and use a stick shift instead.

Ok that was snark, the US govt would never allow a 1952 F100 to be built again. Too may regs and prenumbras and for the children and global warming and all that.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (r+sAi)

366 JIT , became a big deal in Japan before it hit here. I suspect space and waste was a big issue for such a small island.

Posted by: runner at July 08, 2021 03:57 PM (Z7oqE)

367 If you put things on truck trailers, they're not in inventory. Of course, you only need orders, or pre-orders to be 'legal...'

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

I remember dispatching drivers to pull dozens of trailers off customer's properties just so they could report low inventory numbers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:57 PM (Q9lwr)

368 The woman who complained at a California spa about a man naked in the women's section, went on Fox and said not only was he naked but he was walking around with a hard-on in front of everyone. Got to be fvcking kidding me

There is another solution to this that does not involve the police or management. She should talk to her daughter and mock him. Brutally. Humiliate him and his penis. If she is talking to her daughter, it will not be a hate crime.
Posted by: shibumi at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (BvZkh)

=======================

Expect Violence. Most are not really all there, and they are not tightly wrapped to start with.

Be prepared.

Posted by: rd at July 08, 2021 03:57 PM (Z32m1)

369 Can children identify as tall enough for any ride at Disneyland?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 08, 2021 03:57 PM (cSyAR)

370 * Ding dong *

"Good afternoon. Have you had your Covid vaccine?"

"No, however I could use a couple Fuller brushes right about now."

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 03:25 PM

Had a guy walk up to the house today that was selling life insurance. The dogs met him at the front door and he beat a hasty retreat. I caught up with him in the drive after I went out the garage door and told him no we were not interested.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 08, 2021 03:57 PM (JUOKG)

371 Overall, waste is a big deal.

Posted by: runner at July 08, 2021 03:57 PM (Z7oqE)

372 chips that require multi-billion dollar plants that are obsolete almost as soon as they start up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Q9lwr)

I thought that was American Solar companies.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:57 PM (Zz0t1)

373 Stephen Price Blair/others have a key point.

The most productive, and least vulnerable to manipulation, kind of "reform" to improve competitiveness in the area of regulation and taxation.

Many years of up-close observation of the sausage being made, the very "protectionist" member I worked for had his top trade guy spend as much time weeding out the grifters/thieves (those trying to use trade policy to steal American consumers' money, and get protection for their crappy operations that deserved to change or die) as he did developing the legit cases to push.

Of course there will be vulnerability to manipulation by the undeserving in tax and regulatory change as well, but it's less, and harder to pull off than selective meritless trade action.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 08, 2021 03:58 PM (OTzUX)

374 Hey Jane!

How did you fare with Elsa? I heard there was a tornado over at Kings Bay but didn't see much else about it...

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs (qIQLc) at July 08, 2021 03:53 PM (qIQLc)

We fared better than most. Hilton Head got hit hard with 81 mph gusts(!!!) and there are limbs and small trees down everywhere. LOTS of lightning. The big kitty hid under a bed, and the little ginger kitten was fascinated and watched the lightning through our bedroom window.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at July 08, 2021 03:58 PM (ptqGC)

375 322 >>I get a perverse joy out of telling the little beggars, "I won't buy your cookies because the Girl Scouts support murdering little babies. Ask mommy to tell you why the Girl Scouts murder little babies."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (2JVJo)

You didn't say that. It's clever, but you didn't say that.

Say you didn't say that.
Posted by: ZOD at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (xK9An)

Oh, the green eyed monster has appeared!

Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:58 PM (Ojki1)

376 Olympics Bans Spectators From All Events

-
I think this is smart. I know that back when I worked for a living, the biggest source of problems was my clients. They should get rid of the athletes too, then it'd be smooth sailing!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 08, 2021 03:58 PM (d9FiS)

377 *knock knock*
Me:
I've decided that my reality is that I'm immune to all viruses and other diseases and disease carriers. That includes you. Good day to you!

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:58 PM (iDOB7)

378
I remember dispatching drivers to pull dozens of trailers off customer's properties just so they could report low inventory numbers.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 03:57 PM (Q9lwr)

In my younger days, we only had to have it out of the warehouse and in a truck/trailer. It could remain on the lot, just needed to be out of the building.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 03:59 PM (Zz0t1)

379 JIT , became a big deal in Japan before it hit here. I suspect space and waste was a big issue for such a small island. ---------------------- As a concept, there is nothing inherently wrong with it. It certainly does have its limitations. The main problem with incentivizing it is it favors bigger more centralized corporations. What we really should be doing is incentivizing small businesses. Instead we have the opposite.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 03:59 PM (sX1BW)

380 Can children identify as tall enough for any ride at Disneyland?
Some European guy tried to get the courts to let him identify as a different age because he felt and looked younger then he was.
The courts threw that out though because apparently unlike your sex, age is a fixed thing. Which is interesting, because if you looked up the average 60 year old in say 1921 versus one now...well it appears the effects of aging at least are very NOT fixed.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 03:59 PM (DpkTQ)

381 I do wonder if fabs with older process nodes are
being spooled up to pick up the slack for industries like auto
manufacturers. I doubt they need the latest 10 nm/7 nm nodes for their
chips. I've seen the infotainment systems in a brand new vehicle,
they're still underpowered compared to a generic Android tablet.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 08, 2021 03:54 PM (DXFDM)

I read an announcement about Intel getting in the foundry business, an idea they ignored mumbledy years ago, when they were fat an happy.

Posted by: flounder at July 08, 2021 03:59 PM (KnJdm)

382 lease=leash
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (bTQ72)

Shit, someone's on to us.

Posted by: GM Financial at July 08, 2021 03:59 PM (h5TKJ)

383 Starts with a 'C'. They can try to reposess..... What, exactly? And how??

We got China by the short & curlies and they don't even know it
Posted by: Uncle Rick at July 08, 2021 03:43 PM (48/MM)

I think we should consider it payback for the Wuhan Flu damage they inflicted on us and call it a day.

Posted by: LASue at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

384 I think this is smart. I know that back when I worked for a living, the
biggest source of problems was my clients. They should get rid of the
athletes too, then it'd be smooth sailing!

Dude - imagine all the money they could save by shit-canning that excess stadium inventory !!!

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (xQJTG)

385 >Olympics Bans Spectators From All Events

If no one is there to see the Limpdix, did they even happen?

Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (iTXRQ)

386 I wonder how efficient a carburetor could be made nowadays to make a car that required no electronics other than maybe a sensor for the ignition timing.

Posted by: f'd at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (Tnijr)

387 That's not really the case with chip fabs. As the chip feature size shrinks, less demanding parts are made on the older tech. They don't just become obsolete overnight, or nobody would bother building them.

Posted by: flounder at July 08, 2021 03:56 PM (KnJdm)

Understood, and a good point...Thank you. But if Ford buys a chip plant to produce xyz chips, then in two years rolls out another product requiring a newer chip...what do they do? Or after two years their chip factory is producing chips that are now commodities and being sold at a huge discount to their costs?

It's a messy problem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (Q9lwr)

388 You didn't say that. It's clever, but you didn't say that.

Say you didn't say that.
Posted by: ZOD at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (xK9An)

Would I lie to Zod?

Admittedly, I've only ever done it twice, but it was worth it to see the looks of absolute fury on the wine moms' faces.

Even got called a "fucking Trump asshole" once, right in front of the whole troop.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (2JVJo)

389 We are contained....there is a container shortage.

If i were British...I'd take some baby cocaine and investigate.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 08, 2021 04:01 PM (QDMIh)

390 Ok that was snark, the US govt would never allow a 1952 F100 to be built again.

I have occasionally wondered whether modern manufacturing could make far more reliable older vehicles.

I especially wonder this when my car decides to shut off while on the road just because the battery is dying.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 08, 2021 04:01 PM (CX3cf)

391 I assume ace is writing a post about Avenatti crying like a bitch in court as he got an incredibly lenient 30 month sentence by a tool judge.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 04:01 PM (g5I2H)

392
* Ding dong * "Good afternoon. Have you had your Covid vaccine?"
Yeah I got it in 2018
They look at me. I look at them. Bye now!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 04:01 PM (DpkTQ)

393 Please send some of that beautiful rain to Minnesota and Iowa. We need it.

Posted by: rd at July 08, 2021 04:01 PM (Z32m1)

394 Dude - imagine all the money they could save by shit-canning that excess stadium inventory !!! ------------------------- Don't we have the technology to Zoom all the races. Everyone can run from their favorite in-country track - or really just run against time. No need to have athletes line up next to one another.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 08, 2021 04:02 PM (sX1BW)

395 I get a perverse joy out of telling the little beggars, "I won't buy your cookies because the Girl Scouts support murdering little babies. Ask mommy to tell you why the Girl Scouts murder little babies."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 08, 2021 03:47 PM (2JVJo)

You didn't say that. It's clever, but you didn't say that.

Say you didn't say that.
Posted by: ZOD at July 08, 2021 03:49 PM (xK9An)

Oh, the green eyed monster has appeared!
Posted by: Bete at July 08, 2021 03:58 PM (Ojki1)

Id laugh if you accompanied your rant with some photos.

Posted by: LASue at July 08, 2021 04:02 PM (Ed8Zd)

396 344 Like rats down the manila line into their cardboard lifeboats, so are the days of our lives.
fixt

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 08, 2021 04:02 PM (v3pYe)

397 I wonder how efficient a carburetor could be made nowadays to make a car that required no electronics other than maybe a sensor for the ignition timing.
Posted by: f'd at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (Tnijr)

There are SEVERAL engine builders out there that will tell you they can tune a carb to make power and STILL match or beat fuel injection.

Vacuum or centrifugal advance for timing included. NO computers required.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)

398 Biden, with his five decades of foreign policy experience, is the most qualified American president ever in terms of representing U.S. Interests on the international stage.

Posted by: TC at July 08, 2021 04:02 PM (70pX0)

399 They could sell a cazillion trucks by eliminating all the bells and whistles *(electric windows etc) and sold an air conditioned, auto trans Truck.
At a pretty price point for seller and buyer.

*They aren't selling 150s and 250s to millennials

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 04:02 PM (ElqsY)

400 "1 I assume ace is writing a post about Avenatti crying like a bitch in court as he got an incredibly lenient 30 month sentence by a tool judge.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 04:01 PM (g5I2H)"

He got exactly what the prosecutors asked for. His counsel asked for six months.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 04:03 PM (Fdwku)

401 I especially wonder this when my car decides to shut off while on the road just because the battery is dying.
A younger me was surprised to find that out on the highway. I just need the battery to start the engine but...I mean I have an ICE so...I'm good even though the battery idiot light just came on.

/car dies
OH CRAP

Posted by: 18-1 at July 08, 2021 04:03 PM (DpkTQ)

402 I suppose some type of mechanical fuel injection would be ok too. Anything as long as it didn't need a computer.

Posted by: f'd at July 08, 2021 04:03 PM (Tnijr)

403 The market for working older vehicles is very very high now.

Because the dealers are not using incentives as they believe (and rightly so) that the consumers are ripe for a new car because of the lockdown.

My investment in my old beater is looking pretty good these days.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 04:03 PM (iDOB7)

404 and

nood

Posted by: banana Dream at July 08, 2021 04:03 PM (6Phnr)

405
Understood, and a good point...Thank you. But if Ford buys a chip plant to produce xyz chips, then in two years rolls out another product requiring a newer chip...what do they do? Or after two years their chip factory is producing chips that are now commodities and being sold at a huge discount to their costs?

It's a messy problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (Q9lwr)

Ford is actually pretty good at 'retooling' to meet a different need.

The one facility would likely not be limited to a single make/model of a chip.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 04:03 PM (Zz0t1)

406 They already make very efficient carbs for people who modify cars.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 08, 2021 04:04 PM (r+sAi)

407 Wasn't Avenatti, Taters girlfriend?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 04:04 PM (Fdwku)

408 Olympics Bans Spectators From All Events

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I think this is smart. I know that back when I worked for a living, the biggest source of problems was my clients. They should get rid of the athletes too, then it'd be smooth sailing!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 08, 2021 03:58 PM (d9FiS)
***

Not to mention those annoying medal ceremonies and anthem things.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 08, 2021 04:04 PM (axyOa)

409 386 I wonder how efficient a carburetor could be made nowadays to make a car
that required no electronics other than maybe a sensor for the ignition
timing.
yoohoo! hello, sailor! me love you long time!

Posted by: Points at July 08, 2021 04:04 PM (v3pYe)

410 377 *knock knock*
Me:
I've decided that my reality is that I'm immune to all viruses and other diseases and disease carriers. That includes you. Good day to you!
Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 03:58 PM (iDOB7)

-------

"I identify as vaccinated. Good bye!"

Posted by: ShainS at July 08, 2021 04:05 PM (zSN/Y)

411 Understood, and a good point...Thank you. But if Ford buys a chip plant to produce xyz chips, then in two years rolls out another product requiring a newer chip...what do they do? Or after two years their chip factory is producing chips that are now commodities and being sold at a huge discount to their costs?

It's a messy problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 08, 2021 04:00 PM (Q9lwr)
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Yeah but, car manufacturers are constantly retooling their lines. They have to, with new models coming out, new tooling being purchased, etc. It would just be more of the same, I would think.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 08, 2021 04:06 PM (2SdPm)

412 "yoohoo! hello, sailor! me love you long time!
Posted by: Points"

And then comes the burn.

Posted by: Hall effect sensors at July 08, 2021 04:06 PM (Tnijr)

413 >>>in two years rolls out another product requiring a newer chip...what do they do?
They design, tape out, and fab the next batch. In reality, it's too complicated an industry to just vertically integrate a chip fab into your manufacturing line just for less than a million chips (the design and testing is major overhead that is only justified in the ability to massively scale chips per wafer).

It would be a superior plan, short of JIT, to stockpile half a year's supply, as F series sales are fairly consistently high.

Posted by: flounder at July 08, 2021 04:06 PM (KnJdm)

414 Nood Avenatti!!

Ick.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 04:06 PM (iDOB7)

415 It's a messy problem.

I liked Neutron Jack's (Jack Welch - you knew that) approach to this. Don't own one big chip company - own three smaller ones. Make them compete for the business, all under the main corporate umbrella. First place wins, second place survives, come in third enough and you get buried and re-invented.

That is the only way I can see to hedge against the Black Swan events we're talking about. Because Black Swan events, although not predictable, happen all the time. And we all know this - that's part of why we carry personal insurance. Ain't no insurance against parts you need that you just can't get. East of Omaha Motors would, if nothing else, like to know I have personal control over the plants building the shit I absolutely have to have.

Posted by: East of Omaha at July 08, 2021 04:07 PM (xQJTG)

416 He got exactly what the prosecutors asked for. His counsel asked for six months.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 08, 2021 04:03 PM (Fdwku)

CBS news said prosecutors asked for 8 years. He's facing additional charges anyway so people won't even know what CNN stood for by the time he's a free man.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 08, 2021 04:07 PM (g5I2H)

417 Just when you thought it was safe to go back to reading the news!

Politics
Aides Getting Nervous As Biden's Life Alert Button And Nuclear Launch Button Look Remarkably Similar
July 8th, 2021 49

From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 08, 2021 04:08 PM (d9FiS)

418 Nothing flattens a curve faster than a little girl asking her mom "Why is it so tiny?"
Posted by: Roy at July 08, 2021 03:52 PM (Ti+Tv)
........

and ugly Mommy. Does he have Peyronie's disease?

Posted by: wth at July 08, 2021 04:08 PM (v0R5T)

419 My investment in my old beater is looking pretty good these days.
Posted by: jakee308 at July 08, 2021 04:03 PM (iDOB7)
----------------

My '02 costs me between 1 and 2K a year in repair.
What's that, two payments?

Posted by: Braenyard, (ElqsY) at July 08, 2021 04:08 PM (ElqsY)

420 It's a little complex but the world doesn't need to rely on China and something like this could easily be part of a stimulus bill. Assume U.S. producers could make these for $4,000 and the U.S. decided to subsidize the building of an additional 5 million containers or underwriting the entire thing for $20 billion. The U.S. could structure this as loans to leasing companies who buy the containers and recoup half or all the "investment" over 5-10 years while jump starting a U.S.-based alternative to a critical supply chain chokepoint. Refrigerated containers could be built here as well. It's not pretty but it could be done and it could add jobs and reduce dependence on the CCP.

Posted by: mercury at July 08, 2021 04:09 PM (l7rT0)

421 And now you know why Trump was so dangerous to them

Posted by: Iblis at July 08, 2021 04:15 PM (bXQNr)

422 There's a business in California that shreds containers, ships the shreds off to China so China can make new containers!

I kid you not!

Posted by: Lee Also at July 08, 2021 04:47 PM (dhBkz)

423 "How about that? We're just a few months removed from global shipping being massively interrupted by the Suez Canal blockage, and here we are again, with yet another massive shipping interruption"

This is one of those things that, like a bunch of the COVID crap, I think a lot of people were not paying attention to when it first started being a thing.

Supply disruptions kicked off in Dec 2019 and never really let up; we're still dealing with the fallout of the initial PRC lockdowns. There was also a bunch of other contributing nonsense going on that started Aug-Oct 2019, when we nearly launched into another financial crisis.

This is not "new", it is an ongoing train wreck.

Also - something like 250,000 containers are unaccounted for somewhere in the US at the moment.

Posted by: somedood at July 08, 2021 07:39 PM (s3j76)

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