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Monday Overnight Open Thread (5/31/21) Memorial Day Edition
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Quote I “We do not know one promise these men made, one pledge they gave, one word they spoke; but we do know they summed up and perfected, by one supreme act, the highest virtues of men and citizens. For love of country they accepted death, and thus resolved all doubts, and made immortal their patriotism and their virtue.”
– James A. Garfield, Ohio Congressman, May 30, 1868, Arlington National Cemetery
Quote II "Courage is almost a contradiction in terms. It means a strong desire to live taking the form of a readiness to die." – G.K. Chesterton
Quote III "But freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. The only way they can inherit the freedom we have known is if we fight for it, protect it, defend it and then hand it to them with the well-thought lessons of how they in their lifetime must do the same. And if you and I don't do this, then you and I may well spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it once was like in America when men were free." – Ronald Reagan
Quote IV “On this Memorial Day, we remember the fallen heroes who took their last breaths in defense of our Nation, our families, our citizens, and our sacred freedoms,” “The depth of their devotion, the steel of their resolve, and the purity of their patriotism has no equal in human history. On distant battlefields, in far-off oceans, and high in the skies above, they faced down our enemies and gave their lives so that America would prevail,” President Donald J. Trump
These Sailors Releasing Their Shipmates' Bodies Into The Sea Is Worth Thinking Of This Memorial Day
USS Intrepid's darkest day is a reminder of how so many gave so much.
I devoutly hope that Cooper’s heirs will reprint this nifty little collection of annotated quotes for the reading pleasure of current generations. Let’s look at a sample. There’s no better place to start than the words of one Winston Churchill: Never give in. Never, never, never, never! Never yield in any way, great or small...Never yield to force and the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. Do you have the slightest doubt about Churchill’s intent? It is a forceful statement of resolve, almost to the point of being reckless. In response to that possibility, consider the included quote of Eric Hoffer, America’s longshoreman-philosopher: The sickness of the late 20th Century is cowardice. Anger is the only cure for cowardice—anger strong enough to overcome fear. For those who fully contemplate violent actions to achieve these goals, they would be well advised to consider a quote from Theodore Roosevelt: Only those are fit to live who do not fear to die, and none are fit to die who have shrunk from the joy of life. Both life and death are part of the same Great Adventure.
WSJ Sounds Alarm: $5 Gasoline Nationwide After Biden's Proposed Actions On Jan. 18, two days before Joe Biden took the oath of office, the price of gas was $2.46 nationally, according to the Energy Information Administration. On May 24, it was $3.11. While part of that was the Colonial Pipeline shutdown, the upward trend had begun well before that, data shows. Either way, $3 gas was a shock to American drivers, particularly before the Memorial Day weekend; it’s the highest per-gallon prices America has seen since the Obama administration. Yet, according to a member of The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board, you should enjoy it while you can. California drivers would love these prices, after all — and she believes you’re going to be seeing the same policies that caused those gas prices exported to the rest of the United States.
Whatever happened to the 3 Rs? Public schools once again demonstrate that they are sewers.
Inside the unlicensed counseling that led Boston students to allege emotional abuse
Boston Public Schools allowed students to be subjected to unorthodox group therapy for years As a Boston high school sophomore, Keondre McClay said he was pressured by the head of a district-sponsored youth advocacy program to attend an overnight retreat in Newton, where white adults asked the Black teenager to wrestle out his emotions on a gym mat with them. They said it would help him purge his trauma from experiencing racism. McClay fled to his room. Jenny Sazama, the program leader, and other retreat participants chased after him. For more than an hour, he recalled recently, they hugged him on his bed and entreated him to return to the group “counseling” session while he hid under the covers screaming, “Please leave me alone!”
If you really loved me, you would marry me. So our divorce wouldn't be so FUBAR.
Omaha doctors get a divorce but can't agree on when — or whether — they got married Forget about spacing off an anniversary date. Two Omaha doctors can’t even agree on when, where or whether they ever got married. The husband, Dr. Tyron Alli, questions whether he was officially married. His former wife, Dr. Patricia Seivert, insists they were married twice — once on a beach in Hawaii and once in their living room in Omaha. The contentiousness over such a simple fact — when and whether they got married — was just part of a case that took the (wedding) cake. The couple-million-dollar divorce out of Douglas County went all the way to the Nebraska Supreme Court for the high court to decide, among other things, their actual wedding date. In essence, the Supreme Court recently ruled, it’s not enough for a couple to live together for decades, have four children together, file taxes together and tell anyone who listens that they’re together. Nope, the high court says, state law requires them to formalize their marriage through a marriage license, a certificate of marriage and a ceremony presided over by a licensed officiant. In its May 21 ruling, the Nebraska Supreme Court seemed to suggest that it wasn’t entirely satisfied with the way state law spells out what constitutes marriage.
The price of being a Karen can be spendy.
BBC Covid distancing sensor devices beset by noise and fire safety issues Staff claim body-worn proximity devices have been withdrawn after one started smoking
When the BBC bought thousands of proximity sensors in January, the hope was that they would protect staff by aiding compliance with Covid-19 social distancing rules in newsrooms. Instead, it has had to deal with fears that the body-worn electronic devices could set themselves on fire – and complaints that they were so noisy, they disrupted recordings. The Bluetooth technology was introduced in January to ensure that employees who had to go into the office and work as part of a team stayed 2 metres apart. The idea was that any employees in the office, usually journalists working on key news programmes, would wear them around their neck or in their pocket. If colleagues got too close to one another, an alarm would warn them to back away
The
If you hook a dog leash over a ceiling fan, the motor is not strong enough to rotate a 42-pound boy wearing pound puppy underwear and a superman cape.
It is strong enough, however, if tied to a paint can to spread paint on all four walls of a 20×20 ft. room.
If you use a waterbed as home plate while wearing baseball shoes it does not leak – it explodes.
A king-size waterbed holds enough water to fill a 2000 square foot house 4 inches deep.
A 3-year-old’s voice is louder than 200 adults in a crowded restaurant.
A six-year-old can start a fire with a flint rock even though a 36-year-old man says they can only do it in the movies.
A magnifying glass can start a fire even on an overcast day.
The fire department has at least a 5 minute response time.
Always look in the oven before you turn it on.
Plastic toys do not like ovens.
Always locate the hamster and look in the oven before you turn it on.
Speaking of idiotic and spoiled children...........
If all the luck you have is bad luck. You might be a Genius Award Winner.
A Roaring Spring man who was in jail when police say they found about 2 lbs. of psilocybin mushrooms after they responded to his empty house for a possible break-in now faces fresh drug charges. It was about 5 p.m. on May 22 when Roaring Spring police were called by a neighbor who reported the storm cellar door to Berkheimer’s house on Bloomfield Street was open and there was glass broken out of the basement window, according to court documents. Responding officers said the storm cellar door was off and pushed aside, the glass was broken out of the basement door window and copper piping was at the bottom of the steps in the doorway. The copper pipe sticking out of the door made officers think someone may still be inside, so they crawled through the door window to check the house.
A boy and his dog and unrequited love. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.
Boy Receives Surprise From Pokemon After Selling His Collection To Save His Puppy
An 8-year-old boy in Virginia received a surprise package from Pokemon after a photo of him selling his cherished card collection to help save his dog surfaced on social media.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: JT at May 31, 2021 08:59 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Bert G at May 31, 2021 08:59 PM (UcYvR)
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 08:59 PM (8KJRu)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 09:00 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Infidel at May 31, 2021 09:00 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 31, 2021 09:00 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 09:01 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Farmer at May 31, 2021 09:01 PM (55Qr6)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:01 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:02 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 09:02 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 09:03 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Zeera at May 31, 2021 09:03 PM (NQxvu)
Posted by: Sandy at May 31, 2021 09:03 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:03 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: a dude in MI at May 31, 2021 09:03 PM (+I6Y/)
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:04 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Heelzupp Harris at May 31, 2021 09:04 PM (fLVm1)
God bless America and all those souls who gave their last measure to defend America and all it stands for.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:04 PM (hQrcu)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:04 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: JT at May 31, 2021 09:04 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Reflects well on you. For only the good and righteous miss him.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 09:05 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:04 PM (hQrcu)
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Wait. Whut?
Posted by: Heelzupp Harris at May 31, 2021 09:05 PM (fLVm1)
Calm down.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 09:06 PM (U2p+3)
Lest we forget.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 31, 2021 09:06 PM (Rvt88)
Thanks MisHum, this was excellent. Although it got a little dusty around here.
Posted by: Moki at May 31, 2021 09:07 PM (JrN/x)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:08 PM (L2ZTs)
Had a granddad that got would in 57th Army marching to Battle of the Bulge and rode the Queen Mary home. A Uncle jumped out of a shot down helo and went on to work for FBI.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:08 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 09:08 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: wing at May 31, 2021 09:09 PM (JFzNN)
Posted by: Heelzupp Harris at May 31, 2021 09:04 PM (fLVm1)
Oh you ignorant slut, go lay down by your dish.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 31, 2021 09:09 PM (SDdx5)
Long time passing...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:08 PM (L2ZTs)
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When will they ever learn?
Posted by: Pete Seeger, Commie Bastard at May 31, 2021 09:09 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:09 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 09:02 PM (fLVm1)
Suck it UP! High gas prices. Bad people. Por government. Ass whoopings. And bad Jooz. It is what you need!
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:09 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:10 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2021 09:10 PM (n2JTs)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:10 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: Heelzupp Harris at May 31, 2021 09:04 PM (fLVm1)
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Some of us got a FOUR day weekend, so we are ekstra speshul...
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:10 PM (hQrcu)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 31, 2021 09:10 PM (vuisn)
Bring it, you pansy soy-soaked fucks.
(not you, 'rons and 'ettes. I'm yelling at the dipshits in my town.)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Confuzzled at May 31, 2021 09:10 PM (x8Wzq)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:11 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: Conor at May 31, 2021 09:11 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 31, 2021 09:12 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:12 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 31, 2021 09:12 PM (SDdx5)
Posted by: Infidel at May 31, 2021 09:13 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 09:13 PM (U2p+3)
It's just off Hwy 99/Evergreen Way. My apartment was a little further south near the Boeing plant.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 31, 2021 09:13 PM (fpng3)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 31, 2021 09:13 PM (SchxB)
Bass. Turds.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2021 09:14 PM (QzJWU)
It's just off Hwy 99/Evergreen Way. My apartment was a little further south near the Boeing plant.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 31, 2021 09:13 PM (fpng3)
Is that the place with the awesome chicken?
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 31, 2021 09:14 PM (SDdx5)
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:14 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 31, 2021 09:15 PM (RJCvt)
RIP Uncle Danny.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 31, 2021 09:15 PM (Rvt88)
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
As the stars are known to the Night
As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain
As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
To the end, to the end, they remain.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at May 31, 2021 09:15 PM (tjZg/)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2021 09:14 PM (QzJWU)
Lower than snake shit.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 31, 2021 09:15 PM (SDdx5)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:15 PM (L2ZTs)
Bass. Turds.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2021 09:14 PM (QzJWU)
Jim he would sell your wife and children into slavery for 2 bucks!
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:15 PM (yrol0)
If you voted for Biden, you are dead to me. Never, ever stand up in public again.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 31, 2021 09:16 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 31, 2021 09:16 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 31, 2021 09:16 PM (OU+8W)
They are easier to spot and hit if the do stand up. Just sayin'.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 31, 2021 09:17 PM (SDdx5)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 31, 2021 09:16 PM (OU+8W)
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Ditto.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 09:17 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:15 PM (L2ZTs)
They are weak slow muscleless pansies. Yo could hunt them them with mini dash hounds.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:17 PM (yrol0)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/media
I posted a lot more boob pics today so just click the link and scroll down
Posted by: kbdabear at May 31, 2021 09:17 PM (qAR6u)
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:17 PM (kzzyk)
"Vegan ribs are actually delicious!
The hardest part is hunting down the vegan."
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Well, they are free-range and grass-fed, aren't they?
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:18 PM (hQrcu)
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at May 31, 2021 09:18 PM (SQLPP)
Long time passing...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:08 PM (L2ZTs)
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When will they ever learn?
Posted by: Pete Seeger, Commie Bastard
I prefer Merlene Dietrich in Army uniform
Posted by: Miklos could swing that way at May 31, 2021 09:18 PM (QzkSJ)
https:// vimeo.com/555343355
Space before Vimeo
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:19 PM (kzzyk)
Good grief. Just do what was done in biblical times to protect people from lepers. Make everybody ring a bell and call out, "Unclean, Unclean!".
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 09:19 PM (+lVUW)
And...let's laugh some, too.
We need each other, and we need to love each other.
Pour a cocktail, and let's kick it!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:19 PM (ucZQI)
"Vegan ribs are actually delicious!
The hardest part is hunting down the vegan."
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Well, they are free-range and grass-fed, aren't they?
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:18 PM (hQrcu)
I'm stealing that
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:19 PM (kzzyk)
He'd be SOL, then. No kidlets, and the long-time g/f of many years, we been neither to judge nor altar.
Breaking all de rulez!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (L2ZTs)
Probably just a coincidence.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (jacU8)
Posted by: mindful webworker - some gave all at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (0DVOr)
Posted by: kbdabear at May 31, 2021 09:17 PM (qAR6u)
Damn where is my hat. I ordered a Chase #9 looking Alan hat through back!
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (yrol0)
Probably just a coincidence.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (jacU
Don't worry. Biden will solve it by just converting gallons to litres.
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:21 PM (kzzyk)
Probably just a coincidence.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (jacU
Or a stick up the ass!
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:21 PM (yrol0)
Probably just a coincidence.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (jacU
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That's bad luck.
Posted by: Robert Heinlein at May 31, 2021 09:21 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (jacU
That taste in our mouth. Total coincidence. They didn't do the thing they promised not to
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:22 PM (kzzyk)
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:21 PM (kzzyk)
We will have fusion before Biden does that math!
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 31, 2021 09:22 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 31, 2021 09:23 PM (nxdel)
Surviving WW2 Veteran Recounts Harrowing Story Of The Lack Of Trans Representation On D-Day
https://tinyurl.com/2j78xkx3
Posted by: kbdabear at May 31, 2021 09:23 PM (qAR6u)
it's the highest per-gallon prices America has seen since the Obama administration.
Probably just a coincidence.
Posted by: t-bird
"electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." The ONE promise that sob kept.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 09:24 PM (r1z5A)
And Iron Man would say "Well done! Here's our clubhouse."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 31, 2021 09:25 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at May 31, 2021 09:25 PM (tjZg/)
Surviving WW2 Veteran Recounts Harrowing Story Of The Lack Of Trans Representation On D-Day
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Parody today, revealed truth tomorrow.
Posted by: Robert Heinlein at May 31, 2021 09:25 PM (fLVm1)
I doubt they will do the say for $5 under Sundown...then again, it is hard to cover anything when your once not terribly small paper is now closer to pamphlet size.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:26 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: No Longer Amused at May 31, 2021 09:26 PM (TTclr)
Posted by: Urban Millennial at May 31, 2021 09:27 PM (qAR6u)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 09:27 PM (+lVUW)
Thank you. You are a giver.
Plus, nice website. I like the links to the paper of record. Funny, and kinda true.
Any idea what the other cards were for the blonde?
I try pausing and the test is unreadable for me.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 31, 2021 09:27 PM (u82oZ)
Probably just a coincidence.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (jacU
Bad luck.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:28 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: PacosMojo at May 31, 2021 09:28 PM (KghK8)
This is known as "bad luck."
Posted by: Robert Heinlein at May 31, 2021 09:28 PM (fLVm1)
Probably just a coincidence.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2021 09:20 PM (jacU
Bad luck.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:28 PM (Ojki1)
Trump caused the high gas prices. And the Israel crisis. That smell coming from Biden's pants--you guessed it: Trump
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:29 PM (kzzyk)
I always hold this day dear, because I know there are so many who did not see their offspring follow in their footsteps.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Confuzzled at May 31, 2021 09:29 PM (x8Wzq)
Posted by: Urban Millennial at May 31, 2021 09:27 PM (qAR6u)
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*fistbump*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 09:30 PM (fLVm1)
This is known as "bad luck."
Posted by: Robert Heinlein at May 31, 2021 09:28 PM (fLVm1)
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America is unique in the world in that it was created largely by outcasts from their own society. People who would otherwise have been crushed by their local culture moved here and thrived. Sadly, that seems to no longer be the case.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:30 PM (hQrcu)
For those who sent them there, may your souls rot in Hell
Posted by: kbdabear at May 31, 2021 09:30 PM (qAR6u)
https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=IzUU-hdtxv8
No "long weekend" salutations in this speech.
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:31 PM (kzzyk)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - The Original Fanilow (since 1974) at May 31, 2021 09:31 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 31, 2021 09:31 PM (jvt6t)
Posted by: In Exile
We have to summon something from down deep inside and try to fix this mess.
I have no idea what that, exactly, means. But it is not time to quit and lay down.
If we have not lived up to our end of the deal, then we have to try a little harder.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at May 31, 2021 09:32 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:30 PM (hQrcu)
Look at all the progress we made in Gaza! We can dig excellent tunnels.
Posted by: Palis at May 31, 2021 09:32 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Beartooth at May 31, 2021 09:33 PM (q2jCh)
*cracks knuckles *
Ready.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 31, 2021 09:31 PM (jvt6t)
I'll lend you a few. I stayed of the one board and almost the other as well.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:33 PM (Ojki1)
There should be a lesson and a parable with that fact. We were American Exceptionalism.
Nope. The ur-DNA from the Neolithic is taking over.
But maybe not.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 31, 2021 09:33 PM (u82oZ)
Not sure I am ready to watch it a second time. Just thinking about it has me a little verklempt.
Talk amongst yourselves.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Confuzzled at May 31, 2021 09:34 PM (x8Wzq)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2021 09:34 PM (kTF2Z)
Seems timely for again, now.
https://tinyurl.com/y3f4p8pn
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2021 09:34 PM (QzJWU)
This is what we need to do.
This lovely ONT, and every ONT, is the best place to be, whenever one needs to get a nice drink of friendship. I so totally dig the folks here!...
Ladyl, Jewells45, Doof, Hrothgar, omg! So many wonderful people to be happy about!
Oh, yeah...that Miklos guy ....
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:35 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: Jadedlady at May 31, 2021 09:35 PM (lX5pH)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 09:35 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 31, 2021 09:35 PM (jvt6t)
Fantastic movie, but I think I am not going to be able to watch it again!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 31, 2021 09:36 PM (hOUT3)
Yes, get ready for $5/gal gas. Inflation is absolutely ripping. The index for "core" increased month over month by 0.7%. Annualize that (compounded) and that's an annual rate of 8.7%
Throw in food and energy and it's 1.2% for the month, which would compound out to 15.4% annual rate. When you see their annual figures, they are giving you year over year. That is the increase since the same time last year.
Those numbers are 1980 levels, when 70s stagflation was peaking.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 09:36 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Urban Millennial
You know my nephews and their wives?
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 09:36 PM (+lVUW)
accuweather is a garbage site and mostly useless
"Warmth to make a comeback after abnormally cold Memorial Day weekend."
Abfuckingnormally?? This is a professional meteorology website? Why was it "abnormal?"
This isn't "normal" weather, everyone! Climate change, everyone!
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 09:37 PM (2YTuC)
Why men go to war....sometimes.
https://tinyurl.com/y98njyxs
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at May 31, 2021 09:25 PM (tjZg/)
Thank you, Bozo, for this clip. Was that Van Johnson in that scene? That guy was in a lot of movies.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 31, 2021 09:37 PM (mdjgu)
Also, accuweather really, really wants me to eat bugs.
Everyfuckingday is a fake "story" about eating bugs. All I want is the weather.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 09:38 PM (2YTuC)
Posted by: Urban Millennial
You know my nephews and their wives?
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 09:36 PM (+lVUW)
Once talked with someone who was giddy that property taxes were rising because he only rented and didn't have to pay them, but that bastard landlord would get screwed.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:39 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 31, 2021 09:39 PM (hOUT3)
Oh and in April, personal income fell by 13%. That was the last round of stimmy checks petering out.
So, on average, the average income fell 13%, and what you could buy with that less money fell by 15% annually. That happened over April. So, if that trend continues over a year, well, it's a bloodbath.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 09:39 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel
Ever notice that Australians' attitudes seem more similar to ours than the British.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 09:39 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Funsize at May 31, 2021 09:39 PM (EiPf6)
Oh and in April, personal income fell by 13%. That was the last round of stimmy checks petering out.
So, on average, the average income fell 13%, and what you could buy with that less money fell by 15% annually. That happened over April. So, if that trend continues over a year, well, it's a bloodbath.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 09:39 PM (Mzdiz)
Stimulus round 4, graft boogaloo now on deck.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:40 PM (Ojki1)
I don't care about gas prices. It's effects the poor, check-drawing portion of the population more than me.
Let them choke on their liberal choices.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2021 09:40 PM (7F9te)
Everyfuckingday is a fake "story" about eating bugs. All I want is the weather.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales
Heh, and all I want is for Hollywood to entertain me....but nooooooooo...
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 09:41 PM (r1z5A)
Not sure I am ready to watch it a second time. Just thinking about it has me a little verklempt.
Talk amongst yourselves.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Confuzzled
Excellent movie.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 09:41 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:41 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: Funsize at May 31, 2021 09:39 PM (EiPf6)
Went to Milwaukee Saturday. Masks mandates and businesses telling you you had to all abounded. It did not improve my mood on the day.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:42 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2021 09:40 PM (7F9te)
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Now that's mean.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 09:42 PM (fLVm1)
Seconded! I may not hang around long but I always end my night with the horde!
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 31, 2021 09:43 PM (nxdel)
I went to Home Depot in Nashua, NH on Friday evening.
No mask.
Less than half the people had masks on in the store. I don't know what Costco (Nashua) is doing, yet.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 09:44 PM (2YTuC)
Posted by: Jewells45
Thirded, Jewells. Me too.
Posted by: Infidel at May 31, 2021 09:44 PM (E0OEG)
So, now, hello howdy good evening all available Hordeling commentaters and lurklings.
BTW
Pronunskiation Note:
Oklahoma: HOWdy!
Deep Texas: Hyawdeh!
Minnie Pearl: How-DEEE!
Posted by: mindful webworker - magically mushroomy at May 31, 2021 09:45 PM (0DVOr)
It also affects people on a fixed income, like me. So it does matter.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 31, 2021 09:45 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Funsize at May 31, 2021 09:45 PM (EiPf6)
I see fewer and fewer masks everyday here... I'm wonder how many each of the masked, and unmasked, are invaxxinated...
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 09:46 PM (8KJRu)
Soothie, did a pick up at Sam's. I'm sure they still have their mandate for emp. Guy in parking lot had his below his chin.
Posted by: Infidel at May 31, 2021 09:46 PM (E0OEG)
It's just off Hwy 99/Evergreen Way. My apartment was a little further south near the Boeing plant.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 31, 2021 09:13 PM (fpng3)
There is the Tomahawk Barbecue in North Vancouver, B.C., in business at the same location since 1927. They have some awesome burgers, there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2021 09:46 PM (sX6dj)
Posted by: Funsize at May 31, 2021 09:45 PM
"bet"...
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 09:47 PM (8KJRu)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
Absolutely correct. My area went for biden by a lot. I want higher prices and violence and chaos and destruction.
Burn. It. All.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 09:47 PM (U2p+3)
It also affects people on a fixed income, like me. So it does matter.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 31, 2021 09:45 PM (nxdel)
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It also affects the prices of EVERYTHING you buy in the store--ALL goods are moved via some form of energy expenditure, which is reflected in their price.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:47 PM (hQrcu)
Let's see, grocery prices already rising. With gas prices going up, everything that gets shipped will have to cost more, and farmers' costs will go up. Why, it's almost like targeting fossil fuels has a downside.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 09:48 PM (+lVUW)
lol @ "Be the 'Quit' in Equity"
an attempt to get "white" people to resign
I love it. I hope it works.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 09:48 PM (2YTuC)
"Vegan ribs are actually delicious!
The hardest part is hunting down the vegan."
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:15 PM (L2ZTs)
Face it, Steve, you are addicted to Fecesbook. You need an intervention.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2021 09:48 PM (sX6dj)
80 years ago, 16 year old boys were volunteering to go to Europe and possibly get killed in a real war with real bullets and real dead people due to a combination of honor culture and the manly-man hero thing.
This year, 36 year old man-children sleep with masks on because they got scared shitless by some guy on TV.
It's this kind of thinking that leads to the huge wars like the one we had 80 years ago.
Posted by: CppThis at May 31, 2021 09:48 PM (8h1h1)
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 09:48 PM (kzzyk)
https://www.popsci.com/
contagious-vaccine-virus/
Posted by: Emmie at May 31, 2021 09:49 PM (tcsxg)
https://tinyurl.com/5fvb39mn
White people. Gotta love 'em.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 31, 2021 09:50 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2021 09:48 PM (sX6dj)
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It does seem like FB may have the best vegan recipes (as in the best ways to cook and serve them). How well do those vegan ribs complement a nice hobo steak?
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:50 PM (hQrcu)
did a pick up at Sam's. I'm sure they still have their mandate for emp. Guy in parking lot had his below his chin.
Posted by: Infidel
Oh, I forgot I had gone to Walmart (Hudson, NH) last week and the mask requirement was lifted for those "vaccinated." Home Depot had no such sign about "vaccinations," however.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 09:50 PM (2YTuC)
Make the gasoline $15/gallon and maybe they'll turn off the Kartrashians.
Posted by: clutch at May 31, 2021 09:50 PM (9UmRs)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 31, 2021 09:47 PM (hQrcu)
......
I understand. But that's fine with me too.
They can get less stuff at the grocery store with their EBT cards.
Maybe the layabouts will have to go back to eating chicken. Tired of them buying ribeyes with my tax dollars.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2021 09:51 PM (7F9te)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 09:50 PM (2YTuC)
Easily ignored by customers, but covers the store per the legal department.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 31, 2021 09:53 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 09:54 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 31, 2021 09:55 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 31, 2021 09:55 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Funsize at May 31, 2021 09:45 PM (EiPf6)
The nick? Bet.
Bete is short for Bete noire. Cause I like myself that much.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (Ojki1)
Sorry I missed you. Yes, some creepy mad scientists are thinking about contagious vaccines. That is give someone a vaccine, which would be some sort of virus or other agent that would give immunity, but spread. This is seen as a way to get around vaccine hesitancy, or poor delivery and all that.
However, there is nothing here in any of these vaccines that appear to be engineered to be contagious. Does not mean something could shed from one to another at some incidence level. I've seen claims about shedding spike protein and stuff like that. I don't know, but I think this is probably not something to worry about.
IIRC, one of the early attempts at polio vaccines became unintentionally contagious years ago. The weakened virus got stronger again.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: sven
*offers sven one of two (2) places this week*
Posted by: Miklos has one to spare at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Infidel at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (E0OEG)
For those who sent them there, may your souls rot in Hell
___
Hooah.
Posted by: SMH at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (oUI8H)
Posted by: davidt at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (uuj1Y)
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (ybIRR)
Yep, the fake "victory lap" is imminent.
You'll hear "we're turning the corner" or "we've turned the corner" a million times from Fake News.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (2YTuC)
Pixy has a hard time cooking because of this rule.
My cat once had a short ride in the dryer; the loud thump thump thumping was a clue. Opened the door, and I discovered he had an unsuspected high gear as he shot out of the dryer.
Evening, all.
Posted by: GnuBreed, journalizin' at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (F0YaR)
You'll get no arguments from me.
Posted by: sven's Father at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (7F9te)
Good grief. Just do what was done in biblical times to protect
people from lepers. Make everybody ring a bell and call out, "Unclean,
Unclean!".
That scratches a pretty deep itch in us humans, if you'll pardon the expression. Weird that it seems to be happening all over the world at the same time, or maybe that's just me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 31, 2021 09:57 PM (HaL55)
Bete is short for Bete noire. Cause I like myself that much.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM
I knew it! "Bâte noire"...
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 09:57 PM (8KJRu)
And that's a lie, i taught myself french for a vacation a few years back.
Posted by: Funsize at May 31, 2021 09:57 PM (EiPf6)
Let's see, grocery prices already rising. With gas prices going up, everything that gets shipped will have to cost more, and farmers' costs will go up. Why, it's almost like targeting fossil fuels has a downside.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 09:48 PM (+lVUW)
Lets get those CEOs in front of Congress! They are obviously price gouging! I suspect this is going to be the theme of many Letters to the Editor this Summer and beyond.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:58 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 09:58 PM (8KJRu)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 09:59 PM (fLVm1)
Christ is King!
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2021 09:59 PM (tQrcG)
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 09:58 PM (Ojki1)
I expect many of those letters will contain harsh words!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 31, 2021 09:59 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: tecumsehtea at May 31, 2021 09:59 PM (skoMC)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 31, 2021 09:53 PM (hOUT3)
That's something I've noticed...up until a couple of weeks ago the stores that were into the mask things had very large, very brightly colored "FACE COVERINGS REQUIRED TO ENTER" type signs. Usually on the sliding door itself so it's impossible to not see it. Now they've been taken down and replaced by some very fine-print signs that you really have to look for that specify all the special conditions and whatnot, 'we politely suggest you follow CDC recommendations' and suchlike. One local up-market grocery store went so far as to provide a copy of the said recommendations in the form of a matrix, which as you might expect from actual government guidelines are about the most equivocal and obtuse thing imaginable.
Very interesting, and sudden, change.
Posted by: CppThis at May 31, 2021 09:59 PM (8h1h1)
Babylon Bee is correct, 500 years from now this bureaucrat's head in a jar will still be claiming everything is unsafe.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:59 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Emmie at May 31, 2021 10:00 PM (tcsxg)
Gordon Lightfoot wrote the song Sundown about his former girlfriend Catherine Smith. She was the gal that gave John Belushi his fatal injection.
Posted by: Farmer at May 31, 2021 10:00 PM (55Qr6)
Christ is King!
Posted by: Widespread Pepe
___
Thank you.
Amen.
Posted by: SMH at May 31, 2021 10:01 PM (oUI8H)
This is a day to remember and care.
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:01 PM (ucZQI)
https://tinyurl.com/5fvb39mn
White people. Gotta love 'em.
City in The Netherlands. Spent a few days there in 1990. I enjoyed it.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 31, 2021 10:01 PM (SchxB)
IIRC, one of the early attempts at polio vaccines became unintentionally contagious years ago. The weakened virus got stronger again.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (Mzdiz)
Wife has mentioned the shedding as well...I said I find that hard to believe
Posted by: a dude in MI at May 31, 2021 10:02 PM (+I6Y/)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:02 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 09:59 PM (fLVm1)
Frog.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:02 PM (Ojki1)
With coordinates supplied by your smart phone...
Posted by: sittingbull2021 at May 31, 2021 10:03 PM (aAP3z)
"Cure your CV19 vulnerability and get the card from Target. Then catch AIDS from the naked genderless nutcake in the restroom at Target!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:03 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Zombie Tom Petty Singing About Belushi at May 31, 2021 10:03 PM (7F9te)
Thanks to those that gave their all!
Posted by: Infidel at May 31, 2021 10:03 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 09:59 PM
FIFY!
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 10:04 PM (8KJRu)
"Cure your CV19 vulnerability and get the card from Target. Then catch AIDS from the naked genderless nutcake in the restroom at Target!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:03 PM (L2ZTs)
Man...Meijer is cheap. They only are offering $10
Posted by: a dude in MI at May 31, 2021 10:04 PM (+I6Y/)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2021 10:04 PM (tQrcG)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:04 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:05 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: a dude in MI at May 31, 2021 10:04 PM (+I6Y/)
Hey, if it is a CVS, you should just take the gift card. Right, Cynthia Nixon?
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 10:06 PM (kzzyk)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2021 10:04 PM (tQrcG)
Probably has before. There was a time that wasn't unusual fot #1 to be in that range.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:06 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 10:06 PM (2YTuC)
I went to the Princess Auto store not far from the scrap dealer, as I am need of some shop supplies, but there was a line-up of poor bastards, wearing the face diapers, waiting to get into the store, so I said, "Fuck that noise!" and put the truck in going-home gear and got out of Dodge.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2021 10:06 PM (sX6dj)
Posted by: a dude in MI at May 31, 2021 10:04 PM (+I6Y/)
Hey, if it is a CVS, you should just take the gift card. Right, Cynthia Nixon?
Posted by: In Exile at May 31, 2021 10:06 PM (kzzyk)
Can you just go in and take one in Califailia?
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:06 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 09:47 PM (U2p+3)
That's sexy talk even when not whispered in a man's ear.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2021 10:07 PM (tQrcG)
Thank you, Bozo, for this clip. Was that Van Johnson in that scene? That guy was in a lot of movies.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Yeah, that was Van Johnson.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 09:47 PM (U2p+3)
That's sexy talk even when not whispered in a man's ear.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2021 10:07 PM (tQrcG)
Huh, that's a fetish that even the DSM still recognizes.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 09:47 PM (U2p+3)
That's sexy talk even when not whispered in a man's ear.
___
lol
Posted by: SMH at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (oUI8H)
Posted by: Ugh at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (jZZUS)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 09:11 PM (ucZQI)
I am now! Howdy to all Hordelings of the ONT persuasion!
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:06 PM (Ojki1)
Seriously? 4 digit sock week? Impressive if true.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2021 10:09 PM (tQrcG)
That's another thing!
Re: that idiot homosexual pervert fascist cynthia nixon
If you're shopping at CVS for laundry detergent and food, you are stupid. People who do this aren't spending money they earned or are really stupid and lazy.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 10:09 PM (2YTuC)
Posted by: Ugh at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (jZZUS)
Gabe hardest hit - IYKWIMAIKYD
Posted by: a dude in MI at May 31, 2021 10:10 PM (+I6Y/)
Posted by: CppThis at May 31, 2021 10:10 PM (8h1h1)
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:11 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 09:47 PM (U2p+3)
That's sexy talk even when not whispered in a man's ear.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe
Ooooh!
*straightens skirt*
*smoothes hair*
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 10:11 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 10:09 PM
or living in a "food desert"...
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 10:11 PM (8KJRu)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe
Saving my ammo for Urban Sock Week
Posted by: Miklos, yo at May 31, 2021 10:12 PM (QzkSJ)
Yeah, how did Miklos make the list twice? Not fussing at all, mind you. I doff hats y'all don't see all the time.
Mafs?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 31, 2021 10:12 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Bete
I don't think anyone I know gets a newspaper anymore. I'm surprised that more liberal rags haven't folded. Thing is, doesn't make much difference if they keep printing if almost no one is reading them. Sad isn't it?
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:12 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Ugh at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (jZZUS)
They went all "Christmas" with it and started it a couple weeks early here. Soon the day after St. Patricks will be the kick off of the "Fabulous" shopping season.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:13 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 10:13 PM (8KJRu)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:14 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: Ugh at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (jZZUS)
They went all "Christmas" with it and started it a couple weeks early here. Soon the day after St. Patricks will be the kick off of the "Fabulous" shopping season.
I think they'll start even earlier so they can ruin Valentine's day.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 31, 2021 10:14 PM (SchxB)
Gordon Lightfoot wrote the song Sundown about his former girlfriend Catherine Smith. She was the gal that gave John Belushi his fatal injection.
Posted by: Farmer at May 31, 2021 10:00 PM (55Qr6)
Did not know that. She only died last fall
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 31, 2021 10:14 PM (sJHOI)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 10:09 PM
I know someone who shops at 7-11 bc she's 400 lbs and doesn't want to walk around a grocery store.
She's also in financial trouble.
Posted by: Not Kidding at May 31, 2021 10:14 PM (MnC1G)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:12 PM (+lVUW)
Heartrending. Like when Bin Laden was escorted to his eternal reward.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:14 PM (Ojki1)
These are all a Skinsuit worn by Evil and their methodologies to keep you from separating from the godless Promethians, all worshipping the Fire.
Skills and Wisdom, Barter and Supply-Lines, OPSEC and Faith; Armor of God and knowing when to beat the ploughshares or sell the cloak.
Posted by: Slapweasel at May 31, 2021 10:15 PM (Ckg4U)
May we be worthy of their sacrifice.
I will never forget and will never surrender.
Posted by: GWB at May 31, 2021 10:16 PM (aDTsF)
She's also in financial trouble.
Posted by: Not Kidding at May 31, 2021 10:14 PM (MnC1G)
Isn't that why WalMart has Whalewagons?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2021 10:16 PM (sX6dj)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 10:16 PM (U2p+3)
Given they make up (maybe) 2% of the US population, the most the should get is 1 week....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - The Original Fanilow (since 1974) at May 31, 2021 10:16 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Miklos, nagyon jol, köszönöm at May 31, 2021 10:16 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2021 10:17 PM (Ojki1)
Here we are with Doof AND Miklos! The boys are back in town!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:17 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: CppThis at May 31, 2021 10:10 PM (8h1h1)
AiC - the BEST of the grunge era bands. Was fortunate enough too see them as openers for Van Halen at the old Capital Centre in 1991 or 1992. They were relatively unknown to most folks there. I was ahead of the curve and already a fan. The arena floor and stands were pretty much empty during their set. To the few of us who "borrowed" up-front seats to watch AiC, it was quite a performance.
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 10:17 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: Ugh at May 31, 2021 10:08 PM (jZZUS)
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I wait all year long for the Queerburger at Burger King.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 10:17 PM (fLVm1)
Plus each and every one who made that enormous sacrifice for their country.
Rest in peace, my brethren.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 31, 2021 10:18 PM (KATBx)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - The Original Fanilow (since 1974) at May 31
Nope.
Posted by: FFS at May 31, 2021 10:19 PM (tOONh)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:17 PM (ucZQI)
And both of us back to our usual posting places. My temporary traveling hash was nowhere near as noteworthy as Miklos' temporary traveling hash
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 10:20 PM (mZUr4)
Sums up the leftist trash in a single, concise paragraph. Well done, sir!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2021 10:20 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 31, 2021 10:21 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 10:09 PM
or living in a "food desert"...
Posted by: Zettai
I thought most "food deserts" were those areas where there is lots of shoplifting, parking lot mugging, arson, and looting. Those neighborhoods that only have package liquor stores and hair salons left. CVS survives there?
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:21 PM (+lVUW)
Hmm, not sure if I agree with percentage.
It's pretty trendy right now to be a big, fat green-haired dyke.
Sucking c*ck is not quite as hip, I think a lot of the faggots are doing dick-snipping now instead.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2021 10:23 PM (7F9te)
- Flamin' Hot Cheetos
- flavored condoms
- Hostess snack cakes
- Thunderbird
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:23 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Sam Kinnison at May 31, 2021 10:24 PM (WBIfG)
Last figure I recall seeing was during the SCOAMF's reign of error (of all places) - 1.2% inclusive
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 31, 2021 10:24 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Some Yalie classics major at May 31, 2021 10:24 PM (HLwmB)
I am relatively okay. I just never stop learning, whether I want to or not. Sometimes, God nudges. Sometimes, God hits you with a metaphorical, large fish across the snout.
Posted by: Slapweasel at May 31, 2021 10:25 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:26 PM (L2ZTs)
Or you're buying milk or something at the 24-hr CVS cause your 90 year mother forgot to tell you she needed some the next morning and everything else is pretty much closed.
Finding milk at the 24-hr convenience stores can be hit or miss, and they're as high as CVS.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 10:27 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
The nurse that conducted my sonogram at the hosp (nope! not pregnant! Whew!) Said she had two patients in the past year over 600 pounds. On one of them, she found a water bill hidden underneath one of her boobs. She couldn't get a good pic of the organ she was after - after 8 in or thereabouts of fat, it just shows white noise.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 31, 2021 10:27 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by: Slapweasel at May 31, 2021 10:27 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Stacey Abrams, gonna put you in my next "novel" at May 31, 2021 10:27 PM (QzkSJ)
That's what we call a vicious cycle. Maybe someone should tell her that the grocery stores have motorized chairs for people who are too fat to walk.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:28 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:28 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:28 PM (ucZQI)
^...and if you haven't been taking note of everything This Fuckin' Guy says, you are missing A Lot of Wisdom.^
Posted by: Slapweasel at May 31, 2021 10:28 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:21 PM
Occasionally, but mostly areas with no grocery stores...
Now, of six CVS locations in my AO, only two (2) are in neighbourhoods without a grocery store, so, maybe not...
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 10:29 PM (8KJRu)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:28 PM (+lVUW)
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America, the shining city on the hill.
With ramps!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 10:29 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: nerdygirl at
The vicious cycle is her hand putting big macs in her mouth.
Posted by: I mean at May 31, 2021 10:30 PM (T42To)
As an aside, a population geneticist I saw said the numbers couldn't be much higher than that, because a trait that rendered a segment of the population effectively nonreproductive would not persist over several generations if it were more than about 5 percent, depending on how often reproduction occurs and some other factors. Nowhere near the 10 percent number that Kinsey was responsible for.
Think about your high school class. You know who was gay.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 31, 2021 10:31 PM (BMmaB)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:28 PM (+lVUW)
......
Or just buy her an extra pound of sugar, a tub of margarine and a couple of energy drinks every time you see her at 7-11.
Some people just need a little help to get to the finish line.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2021 10:31 PM (7F9te)
Given they make up (maybe) 2% of the US population, the most the should get is 1 week....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - The Original Fanilow (since 1974)
Well, look at all the attention trans people get. What percentage of the population are they? I mean, I know a few people who are gay, I don't know anyone who is a trans, and I'm not sure I've ever seen one around here.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 31, 2021 10:31 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2021 10:31 PM (Cbjvl)
https://tinyurl.com/4rruxuav
Denninger:
https://tinyurl.com/35ysc4bj
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 31, 2021 10:32 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 10:33 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:34 PM (ucZQI)
https://tinyurl.com/rskd9v47
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2021 10:35 PM (Cbjvl)
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at May 31, 2021 10:35 PM (OafmV)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 10:36 PM (r1z5A)
Also, the two in the article are idiots.
Posted by: Ludwig Von Mises at May 31, 2021 10:36 PM (jOcSX)
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 10:17 PM (mZUr4)
I find Soundgarden to be a little more listenable, but I agree that AIC is excellent and they'd be my number two choice. I'm in a somewhat unusual position in that I didn't discover any of the grunge stuff until the 2010s and evaluated it strictly on albums and radio play, not all the media hype the first time around. Don't think I'll ever understand why people got so worked up over Nirvana; it must be one of those "you had to be there at the time" type things.
I bet you got to experience a hell of a show though.
Posted by: CppThis at May 31, 2021 10:36 PM (8h1h1)
Posted by: Pastor Charles the Simple at May 31, 2021 10:36 PM (HuH1F)
almost like there are patterns in play...
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 10:37 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2021 10:37 PM (jOcSX)
======
Hmmm. My wife will have been married 25 years tomorrow. However, the state has no record of our marriage.
Posted by: Tinker to Evers to Chance at May 31, 2021 10:38 PM (jPtGI)
Also just found a recipe for an appletini:
- 1 oz apple juice
- 1.5 oz sour pucker apple liqueur
- 1.5 oz vodka
Shake the asscheeks out of it. Drop a no-stem maraschino cherry in the bottom of the glass. Martha Stewart's recipe.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:38 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 10:38 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2021 10:39 PM (Cbjvl)
Yes, the spike protein itself is pathogenic of its own. It produces and inflammatory response especially in endothelial cells (such as line your blood vessels. This adds to the problem with severe Covid disease greatly.
Some people are very sensitive to it, and this is what is likely causing the blood clot (and heart inflammation, amongst others) side effects. Some Kraut paper was out proving that mechanism for the blood clots with the A-Z vaccine.
The mRNA ones leak spike protein in general circulation as well.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 10:39 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 31, 2021 10:39 PM (SchxB)
As an aside, a population geneticist I saw said the numbers couldn't be much higher than that, because a trait that rendered a segment of the population effectively nonreproductive would not persist over several generations if it were more than about 5 percent, depending on how often reproduction occurs and some other factors. Nowhere near the 10 percent number that Kinsey was responsible for.
Think about your high school class. You know who was gay.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 31, 2021 10:31 PM (BMmaB)
I'm not convinced that being gay is entirely genetic. Sexual orientation, sexual attraction, and sex drive are all separate things, and I think are likely the result of a variety of factors, including genetics, psychology, and environmental factors. And they're linked to other aspects of a person's identity and physiology as well.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2021 10:41 PM (jOcSX)
And all that being said, Grunge killed the guitar solo entirely.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 31, 2021 10:41 PM (OssQ4)
The were pretty sure no spike would get out into circulation like that. They were wrong. It does.
This is why you don't just throw some new experimental treatment out there. You need to carefully, carefully test and monitor with small steps. It takes years to do this right. The newer and more unknown the experimental treatment is, the longer it takes.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 10:42 PM (Mzdiz)
Nowadays most 'real' rockers (at least IMHO) are back to the blues.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2021 10:42 PM (L2ZTs)
This will require multiple posts, per Pixy rules
ROBERT NELSON MORDEN
PFC - E2 - Marine Corps - Regular, Length of service 0 years, His tour began on Dec 19, 1967,Casualty was on Feb 8, 1968,In QUANG TRI, SOUTH VIETNAM,HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY, MULTIPLE FRAGMENTATION WOUNDS, Body was recovered
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2021 10:42 PM (bk3Sg)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 10:43 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: Doof
If AiC didn't make enough albums for you, there's also a Swedish band called "Drain" that has a similar sound. (They're "Drain STH" outside of Sweden, since there's another band called Drain.)
Also, they're all pretty hot.
https://youtu.be/Q4FF92n8ObI
https://youtu.be/ULhptz-uGfo
Posted by: mikeski at May 31, 2021 10:43 PM (P1f+c)
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 10:43 PM (Lzpvj)
Yikes! I think I could get in trouble with that...
My asscheeks might be really happy, though...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:43 PM (ucZQI)
HN - E3 - Navy - Regular,Length of service 1 years,His tour began on Jan 15, 1968, Casualty was on Feb 25, 1968, In QUANG TRI, SOUTH VIETNAM, HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY,SMALL ARMS FIRE, Body was recovered
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2021 10:44 PM (bPH26)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2021 10:44 PM (U2p+3)
CPL - E4 - Army - Regular,101st Airborne Division,Length of service 1 years, His tour began on Jun 12, 1967, Casualty was on Mar 26, 1968, In THUA THIEN, SOUTH VIETNAM, Hostile, died of wounds, GROUND CASUALTY, MULTIPLE FRAGMENTATION WOUNDS, Body was recovered
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2021 10:44 PM (bPH26)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 10:33 PM (fLVm1)
Can I have your stuff?
Posted by: spindrift at May 31, 2021 10:45 PM (+qgty)
PFC - E3 - Army - Selective Service,18th Eng Bde, Length of service 0 years His tour began on Nov 26, 1968 Casualty was on Mar 6, 1969 In ,SOUTH VIETNAM Non-Hostile, died of illness/injury, GROUND CASUALTY, ACCIDENTAL SELF-DESTRUCTION, Body was recovered
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2021 10:45 PM (bPH26)
As an aside, listening to this stuff in the last couple of years it really strikes me just how much of Cornell's body of work makes casual reference to suicide. Apparently he was trying to tell us something.
Posted by: CppThis at May 31, 2021 10:45 PM (8h1h1)
The globohomo left will not allow the world economy to recover unless and until enough of us take the jab and sadly some of us unhideably die.
Sucks but there it is.
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 10:45 PM (Lzpvj)
CAPT - O3 - Army - Regular, 1st AVN BDE, His tour began on Nov 13, 1971, Casualty was on Jun 2, 1972, In PLEIKU, SOUTH VIETNAM, HOSTILE,HELICOPTER - CREW, AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND, Body was recovered
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2021 10:45 PM (bPH26)
SGT - E5 - Army - Selective Service, 9th Infantry Division, Length of service 1 years, His tour began on Apr 2, 1968, Casualty was on May 7, 1968, In GIA DINH, SOUTH VIETNAM, HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY, DROWNED, SUFFOCATED, Body was recovered
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2021 10:46 PM (bPH26)
Posted by: Miklos, just being nice at May 31, 2021 10:47 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * lighting candle in memory of the day when journalism died at May 31, 2021 10:48 PM (/8Lpc)
Steve it does have a lot to do with throwing out the Blues tradition in rock, I think. Grunge was nihilism, which is incompatible with both tradition and virtuosity.
But that's just, like, my opinion. To each his own.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 31, 2021 10:48 PM (OssQ4)
I was listening to Tracy Beanz and Quite Frankly on RadioInfluence, and now I wonder if our blood supply will be contaminated by these spike proteins.
You know our scientific "betters" lie as though their lives depend upon it.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 31, 2021 10:49 PM (Mzdiz)
No one gets out of here alive.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 31, 2021 10:39 PM (SchxB)
Heh.
Posted by: Prophet Elijah at May 31, 2021 10:49 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 31, 2021 10:49 PM (2YTuC)
I'm under tremendous peer pressure to get invaxxinated... The lovely and long-suffering Mrs Z and Teh Spawn are...
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 10:50 PM (8KJRu)
Not as though the media, the civil service, the military, or anyone holds anyone accountable for their lies....
we live in Imperial China at this point ruled by a Junta with an idiot debauched figurehead as "ruler."
Enjoy the ride.
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 10:50 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 31, 2021 10:49 PM (Mzdiz)
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Seriously, if you can't trust the CDC, then who can you trust?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 10:51 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales
Should have never let them cross the Yalu. Truman you dick.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 10:51 PM (r1z5A)
I was listening to Tracy Beanz and Quite Frankly on RadioInfluence, and now I wonder if our blood supply will be contaminated by these spike proteins.
.....
At least the pharma companies are immune from lawsuits, so if it gives you a stroke or causes miscarriages there is not a single f*cking thing you can do about it.
But, ya know, take the jab, for society, the economy or some or other bullshit.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2021 10:52 PM (7F9te)
Posted by: dp at May 31, 2021 10:52 PM (hjuAg)
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 10:53 PM (mZUr4)
Yeah what we need to to continue to feed the pretenses and pretexts needed for the continued destruction of our way of life indefinitely.
The donks used the coof as the excuse to enable their fraud, and by God the system made sure that not only did they not pay a price but that they were rewarded with total control.
We could have voted our way out, we now have to either comply our way out or rebel.
You see a lot of evidence for rebellion on this matter?
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 10:54 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Zettai
Ditto, but I told them I had a doc appt. Went and had a couple beers, poked myself, slapped a bandaid on it. And lied some more.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 31, 2021 10:54 PM (r1z5A)
Also, they're all pretty hot.
Posted by: mikeski at May 31, 2021 10:43 PM (P1f+c)
Thanks for the tip, mikeski!
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 10:55 PM (mZUr4)
But I typically get my guitar fix from the Satriani/Vai/Buckethead virtuoso shredder crowd.
Posted by: CppThis at May 31, 2021 10:55 PM (8h1h1)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 10:55 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: Cicero
THE ROSICRUCIANS
Posted by: 33rd Degree Miklos at May 31, 2021 10:55 PM (QzkSJ)
genetic. Sexual orientation, sexual attraction, and sex drive are all
separate things, and I think are likely the result of a variety of
factors, including genetics, psychology, and environmental factors. And
they're linked to other aspects of a person's identity and physiology as
well.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2021 10:41 PM (jOcSX
Oh, I agree. There probably is a genetic predisposition, but it might be triggered in lots of ways, and not triggered for other people.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 31, 2021 10:56 PM (BMmaB)
I really feel like it's something I need to do on Memorial day. I do this every year.
Along with raising my flag...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 10:56 PM (ucZQI)
Fauci will be forever spoken of in league with History's greatest monsters.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 31, 2021 10:57 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 10:54 PM (Lzpvj)
Are you ready to step up and be General Sven leading the rebellion or are you content posting your concerns on a blog?
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 31, 2021 10:57 PM (uxUoN)
Why don't you let Mrs. Z read some of those papers I've linked to, especially that "open letter" to the WHO Denninger put up. It rips apart the "safety and efficacy" claims from the limited clinical trials.
Basically, no one not at risk for severe Covid disease should take it. Risk outweigh benefit. Those who've been infected have now proven natural immunity likely better than the vaccine. There is no benefit there at all, only risk.
In young people, looking at the NNT and shit you find it looks like prevent 1 case of serious Covid will cost you 13 severe adverse reactions (like blood clots, etc).
So, only those at high risk should even be considered.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 10:57 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * lighting candle in memory of the day when journalism died at May 31, 2021 10:57 PM (/8Lpc)
You make compelling arguments for Soundgarden -- big fan of them too.
Asking me to choose between AiC and Soundgarden is like asking me if I want my $100 prize payout in tens or if I'd prefer twenties
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 10:59 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 11:00 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 11:01 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2021 10:51 PM (fLVm1)
Publius. I've placed my life in his hands.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 31, 2021 11:02 PM (Mzdiz)
Oingo Boingo - Dead Man's Party
https://youtu.be/yhN8SdulOFc
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 11:02 PM (mZUr4)
baby and then wandered around leaving pennies on veteran grave stones. I
think I'll call it a night.
Posted by: Beartooth
I suspect that was you who left one on my grandfather's stone, then.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2021 11:02 PM (u0j5n)
I got the jab so I can continue training soldiers, it is what I do.
I whipped the ranks, begged, borrowed, cajoled, and plead with NTs to not give the donks the rhetorical cover for the steal.
After the dust settled I accepted there is no resistance, there is no will to act the ass like the left acts and I am not going to be the buddhist monks in Saigon in '63 thanks.
Self-immolation is a hobby best left to Asia.
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 11:02 PM (Lzpvj)
Seattle killed the solo guitar
Ooo-aaaah
Solo guitar-ah-aw-uh-ah-aw-ar
Might be time for a comeback!
Posted by: Trevor Horn at May 31, 2021 11:02 PM (+qgty)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2021 11:02 PM (sX6dj)
And the problem with high risk is there isn't enough data to say what the efficacy is, even? The trial samples were "general population". Well, mostly --a lot of exclusions, including pregnant women. If you didn't know better, you might think were trying to exclude very high risk groups.
So they efficacy stats apply only the whole group, not the high risk cohort. Not enough data to draw conclusions.
It's possible that it could make it worse! Crazy shit like this has happened before. You find a treatment does improve some, but makes it worse in others.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 11:03 PM (Mzdiz)
You see a lot of evidence for rebellion on this matter?
Posted by: sven
I'm not sure anyone can predict what will trigger it but I do not think many will be suprised when it does. Ponder for awhile, do you think DHS is actively working on possible responses if it does happen or do you think they will have a deer in the headlights, oh shit response.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * lighting candle in memory of the day when journalism died at May 31, 2021 11:05 PM (/8Lpc)
Not a great selection at the local used-music store because of the whole "we play both kinds--country and western" attitude in the mid South, but...ah, the joys of Alibris.
Posted by: CppThis at May 31, 2021 11:05 PM (8h1h1)
It was really good. Better than the first one I think. I recommend it. Go watch it without a mask.
Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2021 11:05 PM (Yoq4u)
DHS has been running a four plus year campaign against the GOP base using civil servants distributed in a bevy of organizations to monitor and network map us in ways they swear they cannot do to democrats or radical muslims.
I think they think they will be fine.
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 11:06 PM (Lzpvj)
Seattle killed the solo guitar
Ooo-aaaah
Solo guitar-ah-aw-uh-ah-aw-ar
Might be time for a comeback!
Posted by: Trevor Horn at May 31, 2021 11:02 PM (+qgty)
I'm down! (SWIDT???)
Posted by: Geoff Downes at May 31, 2021 11:07 PM (mZUr4)
responses if it does happen or do you think they will have a deer in the
headlights, oh shit response.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
They are ready to roll.
Posted by: davidt at May 31, 2021 11:07 PM (uuj1Y)
So, at this point in a sane world, with honest scientists and officials, we would say, well, we only should consider vaccinating the high risk groups. But we need more data. We now to conduct a trial of the high risk group exclusively. We'll then get some meaningful data.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 11:07 PM (Mzdiz)
So, only those at high risk should even be considered.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 10:57 PM
It's not my fambly and so far, just telling people I'm holding out for the mail-in option with no ID in solidarity with undocumented Americans has worked for me...
Posted by: Zettai at May 31, 2021 11:07 PM (8KJRu)
I like the sound of those bands, but the subtext, especially in their music videos, is downright Satanic. Which is very strange.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 31, 2021 11:08 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: Geoff Downes at May 31, 2021 11:08 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 11:09 PM (mZUr4)
Thank you DDS. It's been a rainy weekend here, and that allowed me to curl up and watch these movies. I so love the WW II movies from the 40s and 50s.
We really were (and, hopefully, still are) a country of freedom loving people.
Let's try and keep it so!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 11:09 PM (ucZQI)
I take it the answer to my question was, no?
Will you reserve the right to be critical of others for not doing what you are also unwilling to do?
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at May 31, 2021 11:11 PM (uxUoN)
Hey Miss Miley, have you finalized your decision on a Fascinator yet?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 11:11 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 11:13 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 31, 2021 11:13 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 11:11 PM (a4EWo)
Ha! Debby, we still haven't gotten our marriage license yet! BUT I have my engagement ring now, a beautiful antique Victorian from 1893. I love it!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 31, 2021 11:14 PM (Mzdiz)
Just send a self-addressed stamped envelope to INSCOM marked "I am an idiot, and you already think I am a seditionist."
Let's try again, we face a multi-phased interlocking hybrid political force that has shown a GLEEFUL willingness to allow felonies at multiple levels while prosecuting their opponents for breathing.
Our side is led by retards who think they are living in 1950s Mayberry.
You throw your life away, I'll wait for an organization.
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 11:15 PM (Lzpvj)
Am I a whacko?
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 11:15 PM (ucZQI)
But the flames are so pretty.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 31, 2021 11:15 PM (SchxB)
Thanks for the Memorial Day content, Miss Him. It's...oddly dusty in here, now.
So, anyone remember Florida Woman who spent three weeks in a sewer and was pulled nekkid out of a storm drain?
She's back. In Texas this time.
https://tinyurl.com/rtp7mmab
Fucking Florida getting their crazy in my Texas, goddamn!
Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2021 11:15 PM (yN8aV)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 11:11 PM (a4EWo)
Hey there DDS! Appreciate the book recommendation -- I'll check it out. And I was in Ocean City, MD -- not NJ. Decent time with younger son of Doof. OK, mostly alone because he was busy with his friends most of the time!
Posted by: Doof at May 31, 2021 11:16 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2021 11:16 PM (yN8aV)
Posted by: sven
I think what they will find is an American insurgent in no way resembles those who our military has been confronted with overseas.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * lighting candle in memory of the day when journalism died at May 31, 2021 11:16 PM (/8Lpc)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 11:16 PM (a4EWo)
We'll see, the intelligent amongst them understand that if it goes hot nobody wins.
They seem content to gamble that there is no humiliation the right will not not bear.
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 11:18 PM (Lzpvj)
"So does running out for bacon count as cardio?"
Posted by: nobody at May 31, 2021 11:18 PM (ewXVv)
Reading that Boston Globe article on the "counseling" group...what is it lately with fucking white women starting cults?
I mean, that shit...fucking Robin D'Angelo and her anti racist shit...
White women! What the fuck?!?
Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2021 11:18 PM (yN8aV)
Maybe garlic sauce wasn't the best choice of mouthwash.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 31, 2021 11:19 PM (SchxB)
IIRC, one of the early attempts at polio vaccines became unintentionally contagious years ago. The weakened virus got stronger again.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 09:56 PM (Mzdiz)
There was a case several years ago where an unvaccinated dad caught polio from changing his just-vaccinated child's diaper. Seems the newly vaccinated have a tendency to shed infectious material for a couple of days/weeks after vaccination.
Posted by: Fox2! at May 31, 2021 11:19 PM (qyH+l)
White women are the driving force behind all the insanity, I think they grasp that they obliterated their exalted position thinking men were hiding a gleeful life at work when no honey it was just work and as a result they want the civilization that by global standards was WILDLY too indulgent to die.
Posted by: sven at May 31, 2021 11:21 PM (Lzpvj)
We'll manage this one eventually, but I can't forecast whether it will be by political means or other methods.
You mustn't despair or quit, neither action is befitting Americans. Instead, that head is held HIGH and PROUD because failure is denied us.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 31, 2021 11:22 PM (KATBx)
If I had any ambition, I would design a "Control Group" T-shirt to sell on redbubble etc.
Posted by: spindrift at May 31, 2021 11:22 PM (+qgty)
Posted by: spindrift at May 31, 2021 11:24 PM (+qgty)
Something else. You've seen these claims of 90% efficacy for various vaccines. That's a relative risk reduction figure, which can be quite misleading.
Suppose some one comes up with a pill to prevent dick gangrene. And they tell you it has a 90% efficacy. Wow, right?
Well, you need to look at absolute risk. Suppose your lifetime risk of getting said dick gangrene is 0.01%. Treatment reduces that risk to 10% to 0.001%.
Doesn't look so good now, does it?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 11:24 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Slapweasel at May 31, 2021 11:25 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 11:25 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: sven
Never been a gambler. Been to a few casinos but I was always more interested in observing people. People who get on a hot streak always seemed to think the laws of probability were suspended in regard to their game.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * lighting candle in memory of the day when journalism died at May 31, 2021 11:25 PM (/8Lpc)
Posted by: SMH at May 31, 2021 11:30 PM (oUI8H)
Miley, I bet your ring is absolutely gorgeous, and publius worships you, you found a good man.
Slap, so very nice to see you!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 11:31 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 31, 2021 11:31 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: SMH at May 31, 2021 11:31 PM (oUI8H)
Posted by: Slapweasel at May 31, 2021 11:31 PM (Ckg4U)
Yes, the wife and I are also in the 'Control Group'.
Both in the '70s.
We'll wait for a year to see who's left, and what happened to the rest.
Denningers article lets us know that with 265 million vaccinations, the "Spike Protein" will now enter the blood supply. If you have surgery and need blood, it may contain that protein. How very reassuring...
Posted by: ChrisP at May 31, 2021 11:32 PM (dacO6)
Posted by: irongrampa
I believe you are referring to what is called American resolve. Those who wish to take this country away from us either don't understand what that is or they think we have lost it. They are mistaken.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * lighting candle in memory of the day when journalism died at May 31, 2021 11:33 PM (/8Lpc)
___
Looks like I'll be donating my own blood.
Posted by: SMH at May 31, 2021 11:33 PM (oUI8H)
Anyhoo, I'm going to retire to my boudoir. Good night, Horde!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 31, 2021 11:36 PM (Mzdiz)
I guess serious is appropriate for tonight.
Blesses to all of our former and current military members.
We love you all.
Well, I guess with the exception of woke tranny dickwads, who might think they are 'soldiers'....
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 11:37 PM (ucZQI)
Posted by: Slapweasel at May 31, 2021 11:38 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Farmer at May 31, 2021 11:38 PM (55Qr6)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 31, 2021 11:39 PM (Mzdiz)
How's the back?
Posted by: SMH at May 31, 2021 11:44 PM (oUI8H)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 31, 2021 11:45 PM (ucZQI)
it all started with the women vote, then prohibition, then
women kinda rule their houses, letting them rule the country , not so much
because Madonna, or Beyonce
Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 31, 2021 11:45 PM (bTQ72)
Oh, Number Needed to Treat, or NNT. That's another important one, and is just the inverse of the absolute risk difference. In the dick gangrene example above, we have an absolute risk difference of 0.009%.
The NNT is thus 100/.009 or 11,111. We would need to treat over 11K people to save one case of dick gangrene.
Suppose the treatment costs $1000 total. We'd need to spend $11M to save one case of dick gangrene.
I picked an extreme example of course. Even Fauxci couldn't propose such a treatment without being laughed out of his job.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 11:47 PM (Mzdiz)
What's funny about the Oklahoma case is that the whole point of common-law marriage laws was to avoid situations like that...
Ludwig Von Mises
Um, Did I miss something? I don't think Omaha is in Oklahomaha. But right about Okla. common law...
Milady and I decided to "hold ourselves forth as married" and from that grand day, on nothing more than our own say-so, we were hitched. A while back!
That's freedom, folks. That's all it takes under Oklahoma common law, and we've never had a problem with it. My late, sainted, Chicagoan mother-in-law took a while to accept that we really were legally married. Only accepted it after she came to visit us in Oklahoma, met my own mom, and realized that "common law" marriage is really not common; Milady and I were just...
We still plan to have a real wedding party, though. Missed out on that. Maybe on the 50th anniv in a couple of years.
Posted by: mindful webworker - magically mushroomy at May 31, 2021 11:48 PM (0DVOr)
We need to know how long this spike protein persists. We don't know now. I would presume it will eventually decline, being slowly eliminated by the body. How long that takes is unknown.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2021 11:48 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 31, 2021 09:13
I knew it looked familiar. I worked at Fluke headquarters in the 90's. Great memories. I wouldn't live there now, but I still miss it.
Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2021 11:50 PM (U1eOr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2021 11:50 PM (Cbjvl)
"Some people did something" and "Enjoy the long weekend".
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 31, 2021 11:52 PM (+2sc/)
Posted by: Miley
A gal goes to bed.
A lady retires to her boudoir.
Much more alluring.
Can we say alluring?
Posted by: mindful webworker - bood wahr at May 31, 2021 11:52 PM (0DVOr)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 31, 2021 11:55 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: spindrift at May 31, 2021 11:55 PM (+qgty)
Posted by: mindful webworker - inconsequentially at May 31, 2021 11:56 PM (0DVOr)
Posted by:mindful webworker - bood wahr
Something to do with or becoming garlic?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2021 11:56 PM (u0j5n)
Posted by: spindrift at May 31, 2021 11:55 PM (+qgty)
Your chance of having dick gangrene is like your chance of being killed by a raccoon. Low, very low, but not zero.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2021 11:58 PM (u0j5n)
He thinks I'm the most based Dad in the world.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 31, 2021 11:59 PM (rdbLX)
Posted by: Dick Gangrene, Private Eye at June 01, 2021 12:00 AM (0DVOr)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2021 12:00 AM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Anna Puma
___
Used to be?
*looks around at all the PP centers in the hoods*
Posted by: SMH at June 01, 2021 12:01 AM (oUI8H)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2021 12:00 AM (OTzUX)
Ha!
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 01, 2021 12:01 AM (rdbLX)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 01, 2021 12:01 AM (a4EWo)
One that does not celebrate those who died for our country... but those who KILLED for it.
Because, in the end, that is what kept us free.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 01, 2021 12:05 AM (oHd/0)
Nothing to say tonight. The USS Intrepid article led me to this -
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24965/
watch-this-haunting-video-of-gunner-being-
buried-at-sea-in-badly-damaged-torpedo-bomber
- and all I can say is "May the Good Lord Bless and keep Loyce Edward Deen". G'night all.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 01, 2021 12:06 AM (+2sc/)
Posted by: Kindltot
-------
Yeah, well Daniel was hot...
Posted by: Rocky Racoon at June 01, 2021 12:08 AM (bk3Sg)
One that does not celebrate those who died for our country... but those who KILLED for it.
Because, in the end, that is what kept us free.
Posted by: Romeo13
"No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country." - Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.
Unfortunately, we can't put your new holiday on Patton's birthday.
Or, maybe we already did. It's November 11th.
Posted by: mikeski at June 01, 2021 12:14 AM (P1f+c)
___
Veterans' Day.
Posted by: SMH at June 01, 2021 12:16 AM (oUI8H)
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2021 11:58 PM (u0j5n)
Just grrrrreat. I was just outside, hauling the trash can to the curb in the dark...
prime raccoon target. *checks dick while I'm at it*
Posted by: GnuBreed, journalizin' at June 01, 2021 12:19 AM (F0YaR)
This NNT thing is important. All the (Pharma sponsored) clinical trials usually don't report it directly (some do, if it's really good). THey concentrate on relative risk reduction. Turns out that for acute conditions, a NNT of 5 or less is about the cut-off. A drug has more than that, it's probably not too effective.
For preventative treatments, you encounter much higher NNTs, triple digits even. For example, the NNT of statins is anywhere from 60 to over 200, depending on just what you're preventing. In high risk groups, it can be as low as 15.
One can conclude that these high NNTs might be a scam, costing a hell of a lot of money for very little benefit. A responsible doctor and regulatory people might look at that, and only use thing for the high risk groups where the NNT aren't as crazy high.
But that's not the whole story. You've got look at NNH, number needed to harm, which takes into account the side affects and shit. If NNH is on the order of NNT, you've got a cure worse than the disease.
But it depends on harm vs treatment. If positive treatment is not dying, then some harm not rising to dying might be advisable. Cancer drugs, for example.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 01, 2021 12:20 AM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at June 01, 2021 12:21 AM (ybIRR)
*Swearengen voice*
Mister Wu, how you describe Miss Kamela Harris?
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at June 01, 2021 12:39 AM (ybIRR)
Posted by: a dude in MI at June 01, 2021 12:45 AM (+I6Y/)
*Swearengen voice*
Mister Wu, how you describe Miss Kamela Harris?
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at June 01, 2021 12:39 AM (ybIRR)
Recently I told someone 'want to thank a Vet? Don't vote Democrat'...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 01, 2021 12:49 AM (oHd/0)
Modernism is a poor cloak of age-old ignorance. Living in the 21st century is no guarantee that humans will not act as if they are in the 16th. Our modern-day inquisitors share the same anti-science fury as those who put Galileo under house arrest for the crime of Copernicanism. Claiming that "white supremacists" are responsible for current epidemics of violence against Jews and Asian-Americans--when most data and evidence point, in the former case, to Hamas supporters, and, in the latter, most frequently to African-American males, is our version of institutionalized geocentrism.
The title of his article is The New Regressive Dark Ages --
https://tinyurl.com/2cwaebre
Progressive actually = regressive
Posted by: GnuBreed, journalizin' at June 01, 2021 12:54 AM (F0YaR)
You know, the risk vs. benefit thing can get quite non-trivial, quite complex.
You've probably heard of the "kill or cure" treatment. This treatment will either cure a patient, or kill him. Luckily, that's not a common thing, but there have been examples historically.
Example. Some disease or condition results in say 8 people out of 10 being severely disabled for life, with 2 dying.
There is some treatment. 6 out of 10 will be cured with no impairment, but 4 will die.
You're a doctor, what do you do? The choice is 6 cured patients and 4 dead, or 8 severely disabled and fucked-up for life patients and 2 dead.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 01, 2021 12:58 AM (Mzdiz)
Memorial weekend Sunday, family indoor picnic at Mom's, in OilSlick City. Hot dogs, baked beans, potato salad, watermelon, apple pie -- a menu so American it makes you doff your cap.
At the head of the dining-room table, there's my 101yo mom. There's our daughter and her husband, there's son M, young cousin S, Milady, and me, all down from Smallville; none of us even gives a passing thought to such a thing as wearing a mask.
Down at the end of the table, up from BigCity, are son C, and his wife, with their young boy and girl, our grandbabies. The parents wore masks the whole time. The almost-3yo boy's mask was usually askew or forgotten. At least his baby sister had no smile suppressor. Oh, and Son C has taken to wearing a skirt. No more was said of that than was said of the masks.
Just like a Norman Rockwell painting. ♥
Clocking out.
💤
Posted by: mindful webworker - family matters at June 01, 2021 01:00 AM (0DVOr)
If those patients are conscious and of sound mind, you tell them and let the make the call, of course. You've got a 20% of dying now, but if you live, you'll be a basket case. I can try something, but you have a 40% chance of dying, but a 60% chance of being fully cured.
They make the call. You do what they tell you.
But what if they aren't conscious and of sound mind. They're out of their heads. Next of kind make that call, of course. But what if there is none available. You make the call.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 01, 2021 01:06 AM (Mzdiz)
It it were me, I'd go with the 60/40. I'd say, and may God have mercy on my soul, and I'd save 6 at the cost of 4, rather than the 8 basket cases and 2 dead.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 01, 2021 01:11 AM (Mzdiz)
Now, let's make it even more interesting. Control group, 60% will recover, 20% will be basket cases, and 20% will die. Same 60/40 cure or kill odds for the treatment group.
If it were all me, I'd not treat. But, if the patient or next of kind can choose, then I still pose the question.
The odds apply to each individual. The total will be the same, but it could be that someone who was in the 20% who would die would be cured. And likewise it could be that one in the 60% who would live would be killed. But one of the basket cases could be saved.
Same probability of curing either way. But very different odds of dying vs basket case. If you would rather die than be a basket case, you go with treatment.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 01, 2021 01:29 AM (Mzdiz)
Publius, I'm not around as much as I used to be. I wanted to tell you congratulations with Miley. You are a good man and authentic. I'm happy for you finding somebody to can see that and respects that.
Happy for Miley as well. Both of y'all are good eggs.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 01, 2021 01:57 AM (GajZC)
NNT and NNH calcs by public health groups; insider shit that I haven't been exposed to before. Good stuff.
As to the polio vaccine -- There's an article at NIH on the mutations of the weakened live virus, where it has 'reverted' to a virulent form (capable of producing paralysis), now endemic in countries formerly clear of polio. These countries/regions include parts of Africa, Indonesia, and China.
Naturally occurring polio is now limited to Pakistan/Afghanistan... Paralytic cases of polio are mainly occurring now in vaccinated areas, at a 3:1 rate over the natural shit.
In other words, the cure is WORSE than the disease right the fuck now.
Posted by: GnuBreed, journalizin' at June 01, 2021 02:02 AM (F0YaR)
Thanks. Aww shucks. Miley and I thank you.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 01, 2021 02:41 AM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2021 02:59 AM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2021 03:04 AM (Cxk7w)
I was thinking about my choices above in those scenarios. It's interesting. In all cases, I am placing life about "bad outcome". My own personal preference, would be life, death, basket case. That is, I would rather die than be a basket case. But when making the decision for others, I place life above all, but yet assign equal weight to death vs basket case.
I made these choices by my gut, thinking about what I would do on a moment's notice with the above kill or cure choices vs odds of doing nothing. I then analyzed what my gut was actually doing.
My gut values life above all else, saying anyone who would choose otherwise is irrational. Thus contradicting personal choice there is no big deal. However, the choice of basket case vs. death is not mine to make. Either one is rational. A matter of conscience.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 01, 2021 03:06 AM (Mzdiz)
In the second case, the scores are equal, 6 alive, vs 4 dead, a score of 6. so I default to doing nothing, no treatment.
Again, I was going by my gut, not thinking it out per "scores". When I analyze the scores, I see what my gut was doing.
I am making rational orderings of things, imposing them, yet recognizing certain things are matters of individual preference for which reason and logic cannot order and thus must be equal.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 01, 2021 03:10 AM (Mzdiz)
-Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear
After all the math, I got "Seven".
*looks at scratch-pad again*
Yup. ...seven.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 01, 2021 03:19 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: raimondo at June 01, 2021 03:19 AM (fFPYC)
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at June 01, 2021 03:19 AM (arX33)
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at June 01, 2021 03:20 AM (arX33)
But you know what I meant. I'll chalk it up to being tired.
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at June 01, 2021 03:24 AM (arX33)
...blessings to all and G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy.
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 01, 2021 03:44 AM (Ckg4U)
Any trip out causes her anxiety.
Looks to be a fun day.
Better head out and get on with it.
Later, all
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at June 01, 2021 03:47 AM (arX33)
Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2021 03:48 AM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: JT at June 01, 2021 03:55 AM (arJlL)
Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2021 03:59 AM (Cxk7w)
My thinking for awhile
Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2021 04:07 AM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: Sandy's mixed-up cousin at June 01, 2021 04:15 AM (HBp0A)
g'mornin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 01, 2021 04:17 AM (DUIap)
It's like talking to an abused spouse.
I love you, but I can't leave him for you.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 01, 2021 04:18 AM (Kt1w/)
However, after watching the election and how things happened in the cities, I have begun to suspect blacks have been trying to vote themselves out of their situation for decades and the Democrats - the abusive spouse - know what's best for them and refuse to let them leave.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 01, 2021 04:22 AM (Kt1w/)
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