Even Bezos' Corporate Newsletter The Washington Posts Now Admits -- After Previously Dismissing It as a "Debunked Conspiracy Theory" -- That the Lab Leak Theory Is Perfectly Viable and Plausible and Deserves to be Investigated

Buh-buh-buh Communications Majors who pretend they're scientists told me it was all "discredited."


TWO POSSIBLE theories broadly explain the origin of the coronavirus pandemic that has killed more than 3 million people. The first is the long-observed pathway of zoonotic spillover, in which a pathogen leaps from animal to human. The second is that a laboratory in Wuhan, China, was carrying out risky experiments with bat coronaviruses and could have suffered an accident or leak. Neither theory has proof, but as 18 prominent scientists caution, "both remain viable." The world needs to know.

Well I won't know what to believe until Dr. Guy P. Benson, M.D. tells me what to believe. He has done so much Twitter Research on this topic. I can't wait until he publishes his Twitter Monograph.

A week ago I posted about former NYT "news" man Donald MacNeil admitting that maybe he shouldn't have leveraged his Literally Zero Expertise in Virology to make strident claims about the absurdity of the lab leak theory.

I mentioned to you that I didn't advise you read it, because he excuses his own failures by summoning the power of Orange Man Bad. And also, Fauci Is a Truth-Teller.

He actually excuses his failure to do his job based on his hatred of Trump and admiration of Fauci:


For about a year, [the idea that the lab leak theory was "debunked" and a "conspiracy theory"] was the general wisdom among science writers

Note well: Science writers are not scientists, though, as usual, Communications Majors imagine themselves to be virtual scientists just because they occasionally talk to scientists.

They know little enough about the field to imagine they know almost all of it.

What science writers think about the lab-leak theory should be completely irrelevant.

But it's not, of course. Because they arrogantly decide they get to decide what the truth is. They get to gatekeep which theories the public is permitted to read about.

The "lab-leak theory" migrated back to the far right where it had started -- championed by the folks who brought us Pizzagate, the Plandemic, Kung Flu, Q-Anon, Stop the Steal, and the January 6 Capitol invasion.

Actually it started with The Bat Lady herself admitting that it was completely possible that one of her pet viruses escaped and caused the pandemic.

But do go on, Science Writer.

It was tarred by the fact that everyone backing it seemed to hate not just Democrats and the Chinese Communist Party, but even the Chinese themselves. It spawned racist rumors like "Chinese labs sell their dead experimental animals in food markets."

So obviously none of these are scientific reasons to dismiss the theory -- and of course Don MacNeil could not use actual science to dismiss the theory, as he is not, despite his delusions, a scientist.

So he dismisses it with Communications Major type reasons -- like "Bad People believed this so it's bad."

He then offers the second reason he arrogantly, ignorantly dismissed the lab leak as a possibility:


My first reaction [to Nick Wade's article demonstrating that the lab leak theory was viable and plausible] was dismissive, even though I very much respect Nick as a journalist. (Some of his work is controversial and he can be cranky, but who am I to criticize anyone on those grounds?) I covered the pandemic from its earliest days and I disagreed with his retelling of how the leak-vs.-spillover debate began.

Also, I was offended by some aspects, such as his attacks on Dr. Anthony S. Fauci of the National Institutes of Health and Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, both of whom I have known for years; I know both are dedicated to saving lives, and they have always told me the truth -- or what they honestly believed to be the truth at the time, because evidence sometimes changes. They are now both getting death threats, and that is repulsive.

Orange Man Bad, Gray Cuck Good.

This is "science" to the Communications Majors of the media.

I bring this up because one of the contributors (I assume) that that Washington Post editorial, Josh Rogin, calls out media "scientists" for justifying their previous failures and claiming, basically, that they were Right to be Wrong.

Which is getting to be the theme song of the "Expert" class.


If you are writing a piece defending yourself for being wrong for a year about the lab leak hypothesis by blaming everyone else except yourself for your own wrongness, you haven't learned a thing
and you are just engaged in bullshit navel-gazing that literally nobody cares about.

I think a lot of science writers are racing to think "How can i position myself" and "How can I seem reasonable while changing my position" and "Aren't I great for eventually being objective after failing for a year." It's transparent and besides the point.


What all these science journalists won't admit is they got took by their best scientist sources, who misled them, on purpose, to the detriment of science, journalism and our public health. The scientists who got it right were the ones who had no conflicts of interest.


And then to say "oh well I guess we'll never know" is an awful copout. If you are willing to admit the lab leak theory is plausible, you MUST call for a full investigation NOW, including our labs who have crucial information. In any sane world, that would already be underway.

I believe he's calling out MacNeil, but he might be calling out any number of Media Scientists.

Drew Holden compiled a great thread noting all of our Media Scientists sagely informing us that the lab leak theory is a debunked conspiracy theory -- based on the same Orange Man Bad/Gray Cuck Good "scientific reasoning" that MacNeil admits to.

CNN was, of course, the worst:


Did I say CNN is the worst?

Well, CNN and Jen Rubin.


Politifact has sent its previous Communications Major "Science" Fact-Check on the lab leak hypothesis to the memory hole while PoltitiFact conducts "further revie."


Here's PolitiFact's bullshit statement, if you can't read it in that tweet:

When this fact-check was first published in September 2020, PolitiFact's sources included researchers who asserted the SARS-CoV-2 virus could not have been manipulated. That assertion is now more widely disputed. For that reason, we are removing this fact-check from our database pending a more thorough review. Currently, we consider the claim to be unsupported by evidence and in dispute.

Memory-holing it, they mean. "Removing it from our database" just means "we are disappearing our arrogant, ignorant error."

This is why I get insane about the media's stance that they will not cover competing theories and political beliefs evenly, because they know which is true and which is false, and it is their duty to "protect" the public from false claims.

How the hell would they know what is true or false? As I've mentioned before, of the so-called Educated Classes, they are the least educated -- the only "educated" people they're more educated than are... teachers.

The biggest fucking idiots in the word conceive themselves as combination Philosopher-Scientist Sages gifted with the ability to finally decide the answers to economic, political, scientific, and metaphysical questions that have remained open questions for centuries.

But oh, now Lester Fucking Holt is going to tell us what's Right and what's a Debunked Conspiracy Theory, huh?

Drew Holden concludes his thread thus:

Do we know for certain how the pandemic started? No, and it isn’t clear that we ever will. I tried to give a lot of leeway on this one given that.

But as you can see, the narrative was strong, the dismissal of other ideas was near-religious, and now it's as if it never happened.

Events like this do infinitely more to undermine America's faith in experts and the media than anything Trump could ever do or say. And it's all both self-inflected and avoidable.

But too many people can’t seem to help themselves. And whole industries suffer as a result.


And remember, all of this is coming from the same people who purport to be deeply concerned with the supposed plague of mis- and disinformation.

@NellieBowles puts it perfectly:


Nellie Bowles
@NellieBowles
The liberal consensus about-face on the lab leak hypothesis and whether it can even be discussed is the best possible example of why "banning disinformation" is an extremely dangerous, murky zone best not managed by ideologues

This situation had many of the classic elements of bad reporting of late: uncritically trusting dishonest sources, rushing to a conclusion because it would hurt President Trump, media circular logic.

And it had an unsurprising result: a huge & quickly memoryholed media failure.

Here here.

And let me repeat Nellie Bowles' point again:

The liberal consensus about-face on the lab leak hypothesis and whether it can even be discussed is the best possible example of why "banning disinformation" is an extremely dangerous, murky zone best not managed by ideologues.

And best not managed by Communications Majors, too.

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1 Yikes

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:18 PM (P/sKF)

2 Woulda been first but thee was a serious undertow!

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:19 PM (mZUr4)

3 I'll call the otters

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:19 PM (mZUr4)

4 They squashed the lab leak theory for the duration of the crisis, the same way they tell us terrorist attacks aren't terrorist attacks until months or years later.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:20 PM (P/sKF)

5 Darn it! I stopped to read again.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 21, 2021 12:20 PM (JUOKG)

6 Called 'em. With a stale sock that actually fit a NOOOOD calling

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:21 PM (mZUr4)

7 What? Liars lie? Well, I never!!!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 21, 2021 12:21 PM (7bRMQ)

8 this is a good post, compelling and rich

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2021 12:21 PM (eOTGX)

9 this is a good post, compelling and rich

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2021 12:21 PM (eOTGX)

Holding out for girthy here, boss.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 21, 2021 12:23 PM (7bRMQ)

10 Debunked!!! *hic* Stay safe.

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at May 21, 2021 12:23 PM (W4eKo)

11 >>>Holding out for girthy here, boss.


girthy, yes. and musky.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2021 12:23 PM (eOTGX)

12 Have they mentioned that the CCP military worked out of Wuhan as well?

My guess is they have not.

Wonder how long it will take for that factoid to be revealed. It was easy to see that in early 2020. I'm sure it's been scrubbed from the interwebs now.

/all hail our brave new technocracy with the CCP as our leaders...

Posted by: shibumi at May 21, 2021 12:23 PM (Ve6n5)

13 Amazon is going to have to ban Amazon from Amazon's servers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 21, 2021 12:24 PM (XTk1T)

14 There is another consequence to the lab leak hypothesis being plausible.

That is there must be full transparency as to where other such labs are located, and what they are doing.

But therein lies the rub.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:24 PM (P/sKF)

15 Amazon is going to have to ban Amazon from Amazon's servers.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 21, 2021 12:24 PM (XTk1T)



Denied -- No standing!

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:25 PM (mZUr4)

16 Also.... liberal journos have no problem with banning any kind of information. They believe it is their job to control the narrative and that means banning information.

When their attitudes change, the banned information might be revealed.

But not until they decide.

Posted by: shibumi at May 21, 2021 12:25 PM (Ve6n5)

17 The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident?

My money's on purpose. It fits Xi's MO.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 21, 2021 12:25 PM (3H9h1)

18 Maybe eventually someone will ask how a super contagious virus that was running rampant through an international trade city in November where 10K people flew back and forth to the US every week waited until March to reach the US.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 21, 2021 12:25 PM (XTk1T)

19 "Chinese people are gross and eat bats" is apparently less racist than "the Chinese government funds illegal viral research and manages it poorly".

I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

20
Bisen stole 2020, the virus came from the wuhan lab and Jan6, 2021 was not an insurrection


going to keep saying this

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 21, 2021 12:26 PM (bTQ72)

21 Leaks? Shoulda used Poise pads, like me.

Posted by: Hogg's MyDildo Emporium at May 21, 2021 12:26 PM (gW0PS)

22

BUT, comms majors all do buttstuff on the first date. Even the women!

Posted by: Stinkfinger at May 21, 2021 12:26 PM (Re9MM)

23 The biggest f***ing idiots in the word conceive themselves as
combination Philosopher-Scientist Sages gifted with the ability to
finally decide the answers to economic, political, scientific, and
metaphysical questions that have remained open questions for centuries.

One can easily imagine the Communications Major's ancestors as the group standing around trying to decide what a witch is made of. And getting it wrong.

Posted by: pep at May 21, 2021 12:26 PM (v16oJ)

24 Bisen=Biden

a bisen is prolly smarter and less hard headed than Joe tho

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 21, 2021 12:26 PM (bTQ72)

25 Just wait until they decide to reveal that the COVID vax is experimental gene therapy and that no one knows the long term side effects.

/4,000+ plus jab deaths on VAERS as of today

Posted by: shibumi at May 21, 2021 12:26 PM (Ve6n5)

26 The truly funny thing is most the libs "changing their minds" on this topic are STILL doing so on exactly no new facts (or science). It's literally just "well, if some of my friends think it possible ... I don't want to disagree with them."

Posted by: Match Checksout at May 21, 2021 12:27 PM (dYe5S)

27 When their attitudes change, the banned information might be revealed.

yes. they are flexing.

fortunately this wasn't actually that dangerous of a bug

the next one will be - won't have to be rushed out - and the MSM will commit the same malpractice to the tune the CCP plays for them

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 21, 2021 12:27 PM (j9HX3)

28 We, like the Soviet Union, have two primary news sources. Also like the USSR, one of ours serves the State and the other serves the Party. By my reading (though it seems backwards), the WaPo serves the Party and the NYT serves the State.

It'll be interesting to see the NYT take on this one (such as whether they cover it all, etc.).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:27 PM (Jsjd7)

29 Truth without Consequences is just a bad Bob Barker game show.

Posted by: Dusty Boomer at May 21, 2021 12:27 PM (BdDfF)

30 Man, am I going to be busy digging holes for j-school grads come the revolution....

Posted by: Grave Digger at May 21, 2021 12:27 PM (7bRMQ)

31

dang

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 21, 2021 12:27 PM (j9HX3)

32 girthy, yes. and musky.
Posted by: ace at

Hmmm. Time for a shower?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 21, 2021 12:28 PM (U2p+3)

33 The POSBiden Adventure

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 21, 2021 12:28 PM (XTk1T)

34 Name field test

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:28 PM (XTk1T)

35 "banning disinformation" is what The Ministry of Truth does, pretty sure

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 21, 2021 12:29 PM (bTQ72)

36 the next one will be - won't have to be rushed out - and the MSM will commit the same malpractice to the tune the CCP plays for them


The next one will be this fall. Bill Gates predicted that the next one would not be ignored, just like Fauci predicted in 2017 that Trump would have to deal with a pandemic.

/yes, Bill and Tony are just like Nostradamus....

Posted by: shibumi at May 21, 2021 12:29 PM (Ve6n5)

37 Rubin throwing out the term "cultist" at her opponents?

herself, mirror, some assembly required.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 21, 2021 12:29 PM (cwI4U)

38 All these media twats suddenly and collectively acknowledging the plausibility of the accidental release theory, after almost 18 months of hysterical denials, is not an accident or born of honest reconsideration. The memo went out. There is almost certainly a nefarious motive. What that motive is, I'm not sure -- but we'll find out soon enough. Probably clearing the decks for Biden or the revolting goblin.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 21, 2021 12:29 PM (enXj9)

39 The liberal consensus about-face on the lab leak hypothesis and whether it can even be discussed is the best possible example of why "banning disinformation" is an extremely dangerous, murky zone best not managed by ideologues.
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Dangerous? To whom?

With all possible respect, danger - as in actual, material danger to people - is not a danger with which anyone in the official news organs are concerned.

"Disinformation" - which, in newspeak, simply means "information neither sourced from nor approved by the state or party" - is the real danger. It is a danger because it is by definition information that is not preferred or controlled by the state or party. It is therefore dangerous to the state or party.

*Your* danger matters not one iota.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (Jsjd7)

40 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 21, 2021 12:25 PM (XTk1T)

That question is retarded sir

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (P/sKF)

41 Our Chicom newsletter says that when in doubt, use "debunked". *hic*

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (W4eKo)

42 Yeah, journalists are not too good with complex subjects like Math and Science. If they were, they'd have enrolled in STEM professions instead of whining about why STEM doesn't have enough representation of [X]. Idiots.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (ZIoLS)

43 America's Front Line Doctors are filing lawsuits to prevent the mRNA vaccines being given to children. They say that there's not any real research done on if they are safe.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (5HBd1)

44 It isn't a racist rumor that the labs sell their dead animals to wet markets in China. Which you would know if you've ever been to a real Chinese restaurant with real Chinese people. This seems like a good place to repost this SARS Wars Rogue Wuhan video from last year.

https://youtu.be/RVABcl5qPA0

Posted by: Sharkman at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (3s8Rb)

45 Hmmm. Time for a shower?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 21, 2021 12:28 PM (U2p+3)

Can it be a golden shower?

Posted by: MSM at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (7bRMQ)

46 It's unconstitutional to disbelieve the media particularly when they're lying.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (VVEnO)

47 >>>>26 The truly funny thing is most the libs "changing their minds" on this topic are STILL doing so on exactly no new facts (or science). It's literally just "well, if some of my friends think it possible ... I don't want to disagree with them."


yup. It's just a Twitter Cascade.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (eOTGX)

48 > Hmmm. Time for a shower?

Ewoks don't shower, they do this:
https://youtu.be/juKsQJMRM8I

Posted by: bonhomme at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (YYlyE)

49 Why can't our politicians come out en masse and say to the media's face that they're liars and propagandists and worthless even dangerous to this country. Just declare war. Stop giving them interviews, stop recognizing their legitimacy, stop the inane and debilitating ritual of deference in the name of a "free press." The media's number one job is to sell an agenda, number two to protect their sponsors and allies, and number three to attack conservatives or any actual truth-teller.

Posted by: Ordinary American at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (u9h5+)

50 Question: "What is truth?"


Answer: What's a question that PROGDA presstitutes don't understand, and likely never will?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (HaL55)

51 47 >>>>26 The truly funny thing is most the libs "changing their minds" on this topic are STILL doing so on exactly no new facts (or science). It's literally just "well, if some of my friends think it possible ... I don't want to disagree with them."


yup. It's just a Twitter Cascade.
Posted by: ace at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (eOTGX)

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They're the science party, you know.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

52 Ace you are entitled to your pen opinions but not your own facts
It was not until march 2020 that the "At Woman" in an article in Scientific American said there might be a possibility of a lab leak
1-7 million people living near or working in caves with bats are estimstedto get sick from bat viruses

Posted by: Proud Moderate at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (kTDFP)

53 There's lies piled on top of the lies.

The WHO just issued a report saying Remsdivir doesn't work and recommended discontinuing it.

Isn't that Fauci's favorite antiviral?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (Clxcy)

54 Why can't our politicians come out en masse and say to the media's face that they're liars and propagandists and worthless even dangerous to this country. Just declare war. ...
Posted by: Ordinary American at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (u9h5+)
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Because "our politicians" essentially do not exist, and all of the other politicians understand who works for whom.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (Jsjd7)

55 hey, those fuckers eat bat soup = not racist

China Flue = RACIST !!

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (bTQ72)

56 This MacNeil guy (never heard of him) sounds like an idiot. Well no, he obviously *is* an idiot. Like most with bylines these days. Dim propagandists, nothing more. I believe "hacks" is the vernacular.

Behold his barfing up the breadth of his ignorance and embrace of vapid political nonsense with his comparing the very logical concern that the virus wasn't zoonotic - obvious, and discussed by serious scientists and bio warfare experts almost from the outset - with a grab bag of stupid irrelevant media fantasies ("Q-anon" being anything more than a fringe fantasy for airheads, Jan. 6 being anything more than a brief rumble by s**t-stirrers).

I don't use the term "dumbed down" lightly. It's everywhere. It's all there is. Only self-starting critical thinkers retain any grasp on reality - from "science" to "race" to rule of law to economics. They're on their own, almost entirely. They're treading water in mountainous seas of idiocy, racism, and totalitarianism.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (OTzUX)

57 Oh and Fauci's wife is the Chief of the Department of Bioethics at the NIH Clinical center.She gets to decide the ethics of using these vaccines.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (5HBd1)

58 How Long before we start hearing reports that masks were useless after all?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (KMdgS)

59 Remdesvir was shown to be ineffective pretty early on. They approved it when they were trying to ban HCQ.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 21, 2021 12:33 PM (5HBd1)

60 How Long before we start hearing reports that masks were useless after all?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (KMdgS)
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If it happens at all, my nickel is on +6 months from the expiration of the last mandate.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:33 PM (Jsjd7)

61 I'm no more qualified than the average Twitter yokel but I tend to doubt the lab shenanigans theory. It's just overly complicated compared to other avenues of it being introduced into the Wuhan environs. You have to look for the dogs that didn't bark, and every country's intel agencies are probably trying to stage worked-up "medical accidents" near every facility publicly designated as such. The virus might have got into the marketplaces from a little farther outside the city.

Posted by: Swamposphere at May 21, 2021 12:33 PM (6VCiI)

62 So compared the odds
6/7 people who might have had contact in the lab
Compared to the 1to 7 million who might have contacted it from bats

Posted by: Proud Moderate at May 21, 2021 12:33 PM (kTDFP)

63 "Neither has proof"

See this is how they often lie, with false equivalence. The natural origin theory has been throughly investigated - if it were true there would (by now) be proof in abundence. the lack of proof there is very telling that this is likely NOT the origin.

The lab leak theory has been actively suppresed - lots of data has not been made avalible. Lots of scientists have obfuscated facts. What we know is consistent with this theory being true. The fact that the data indicates the natural origin theory being false also adds to the proof for a lab leak - there are few remaining alternative hypotheses. In fact, none.

Neither has been "proven" but one is much mroe likely to be true than the other.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at May 21, 2021 12:33 PM (Szvj6)

64 As the kids say, a girthy post, Ace. And I even read all of it.

Of course, it's old man yelling at clouds. No "journalist" will ever correct their "hot takes" that "rekd" Drumpf.

I'm at the point that I almost pray for a hot civil war, just for these lying assholes to get the Ernst Rohm treatment.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (2JVJo)

65 I'm not sure why Proud Moderate wants to reinforce our point for us, but okay. Thanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (XTk1T)

66 Six percent of 3M is...

(yes I know no maths)

180,000.


Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (Rbu5d)

67 I don't want to wear a mask, Mommy.

Posted by: Che Che's quivering lip at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (UnQlg)

68 Truth without Consequences is just a bad Bob Barker game show.
Posted by: Dusty Boomer



Geeze I'm old.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (OCTRt)

69 63 How Long before we start hearing reports that masks were useless after all?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (KMdgS)
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If it happens at all, my nickel is on +6 months from the expiration of the last mandate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:33 PM (Jsjd7)

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All of the state and local mask mandates will become Trump's official federal mandates in the history books.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (LvTSG)

70 How Long before we start hearing reports that masks were useless after all?

Nah. They're gonna trot that one back out again when needed. It worked marvelously.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 21, 2021 12:35 PM (W4eKo)

71 How Long before we start hearing reports that masks were useless after all?

***

You mean like Fauci and the Surgeon General both already stated - based on actual science - back before it was seen how politically useful it would be?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:35 PM (XTk1T)

72 If the protein that millions of people just took an mRNA therapy to attack is NOT man made in a lab - then there's going to be a big problem.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 21, 2021 12:36 PM (PQMST)

73 Great post, sexy and compelling.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2021 12:36 PM (OQxn9)

74 "....seemed to hate not just Democrats and the Chinese Communist Party, "

Heh.

Posted by: Ktgreat at May 21, 2021 12:36 PM (AD3JT)

75 They're on their own, almost entirely. They're treading water in mountainous seas of idiocy, racism, and totalitarianism.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (OTzUX)

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That sums it up quite neatly. They are in an ocean of ignorance. They don't realize they are drowning in it. Instead, they EMBRACE it, proclaiming it holy and true. And they actively reject anyone reaching out to pull them out of their ignorant state.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 21, 2021 12:36 PM (ZIoLS)

76 the only place in my state requiring masks are the fucking public schools

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 21, 2021 12:36 PM (bTQ72)

77 Why is it racist to say

"Chinese labs sell their dead experimental animals in food markets."

It is a demand to be filled.

Posted by: Wet Market Wholesale Inc. at May 21, 2021 12:36 PM (ogCJq)

78 Oh and Fauci's wife is the Chief of the Department of Bioethics at the NIH Clinical center.She gets to decide the ethics of using these vaccines.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (5HBd1)


Leaving aside being married to that disgusting gnome, the derp state is rife with the highly unethical situation of married couples being in interlocking positions of responsibility.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 21, 2021 12:36 PM (y7DUB)

79 Just heard Fauci blathering about the dangers of variants and the possible need for booster shots in 6 months, possibly forever, because the panic must go on. .

"The truth is , we just don't know" he summed up.


WTF? Sick of hearing "We don't know" and using that to create more fear. Average homeless person could tell me the same thing as this vaunted expert.

Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2021 12:37 PM (MxEKc)

80 How many people did Bezos' buddies help to deplatform for daring to suggest such a thing 6-8 months ago?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at May 21, 2021 12:37 PM (wAnMi)

81 tl;dr

Posted by: chango lot at May 21, 2021 12:37 PM (g741k)

82 >>> There's lies piled on top of the lies.

The WHO just issued a report saying Remsdivir doesn't work and recommended discontinuing it.

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They gave me Remdemsivir the four days I was in the hospital with covid. I was already feeling better after the first treatment.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs: Now fortified with Remdemsivir at May 21, 2021 12:37 PM (73KCX)

83 Six percent of 3M is...
Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (Rbu5d)
++++
By market cap at the moment, six percent of the Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing corporation will cost you around $7 billion.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (Jsjd7)

84 63 How Long before we start hearing reports that masks were useless after all?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (KMdgS)

They'll never admit to that. They need the masks. And the people have assimilated them now.

Posted by: Ordinary American at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (u9h5+)

85 Why is it racist to say

"Chinese labs sell their dead experimental animals in food markets."
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Racism is a part of reality.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (cI7Oj)

86 The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident?



My money's on purpose. It fits Xi's MO.


It's not exactly a secret that the ChiComs intend to take over the world BAMN. They've been saying that's their goal for a long time.

What's sad is that they're succeeding and doing it right out in the open now. And nobody in the Deep State Swamp dares to oppose them because Winnie the Pu owns them all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (HaL55)

87 Why can't our politicians come out en masse and say to the media's face that they're liars and propagandists and worthless even dangerous to this country. Just declare war. Stop giving them interviews, stop recognizing their legitimacy, stop the inane and debilitating ritual of deference in the name of a "free press." The media's number one job is to sell an agenda, number two to protect their sponsors and allies, and number three to attack conservatives or any actual truth-teller.
Posted by: Ordinary American at May 21, 2021 12:31 PM (u9h5+)


Because virtually every GOP politician, from Senate leader to dog-catcher, is a perpetual grade-school nerd who desperately wants to be liked and thinks the worst thing that can happen is for the media to say nasty things about them.

Even Trump fell into their trap - despite his bluster about them being "the enemy of the people," he still let them into the White House, still held press conferences, still let them attend his rallies.

Our side will not treat the MFM as traitors because we don't have the stomach for it. It's not - as the saying goes - who we are.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (2JVJo)

88 Just heard Fauci blathering about the dangers of variants and the possible need for booster shots in 6 months, possibly forever, because the panic must go on. .

"The truth is , we just don't know" he summed up.

***

hahaha. I know. The virus is 99.96% ineffective, and 85%+ of the population is clearly naturally immune to it.

So yeah, I know whether I'll need booster shots or not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (XTk1T)

89 TRUST THE SCIENCE**

** Not applicable when it hurts Democrats

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (KMdgS)

90 it's really so sad that the quality of troll has plummeted.

Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (Rbu5d)

91 It maybe was a "lab leak", but given the timing of the election and the DeepState desire to not be imprisoned for their four year (24 year?) COUP, it is still plausible the release itself (of their bio-weapon, not just research tool) was deliberate, coordinated with ?? the globalist powers that be (that still count CCP as their friend).


There was also a lot of chatter and planning before the release, about the coming "pandemic". There is Gates and his "hacking the human operating system" dreams, which appeared as nightmares for India and Africa in his previous viral incantations.


I have doubts Fauci was ever a real researcher ... he was stealing patents and somehow getting to high positions in the bureaucracy decades back. Maybe he is one of those 60,000 undercover army agents, operating covertly across the USA, (illegally, seditiously, mendaciously).

Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (Cus5s)

92 Scientific inquiries are racism pure and simple

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (P/sKF)

93 Headlines from the near future:

How Trump failed to contain China's lab leak

Trump's incompetency in shutting down Wuhan Lab endangered us all

Yes, Covid leaked from a Chinese lab and yes, it's Trump's fault

Trump's devotion to Fauci destroyed our nation

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (KbCG3)

94 Racism is a part of reality.
Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM
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Thus reality is racist.

Posted by: Next Link in the Telephone Chain at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (cI7Oj)

95 Geeze I'm old.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (OCTRt)

I remember watching it....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (7bRMQ)

96 Posted by: Swamposphere at May 21, 2021 12:33 PM (6VCiI)

See, even you can be fooled.

When SARS and MERS came around, we were easily able to trace the virus back through various hosts and trace it's path from a zoological source to humans. For COVID19 we have seen zero evidence of any zoological source. The only source vaguely identifed is a bat virus, found 1000 km from Wuhan China. The bat virus somwhat resembles COVID19. But an odd coincidence, researchers from Wuhan traveled and collected samples of that virus.

So the only similar virus identified doesn't infect humans, was colelcted form bats, and was brought to Wuhan for study. That study included gain of function experiments, where you try to see how virulent such a virus could ultimately become.

But no way this was a alb leak...right?

Posted by: Inspector kemp at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (Szvj6)

97

You wanna have some fun?

Google "trump inauguration protest" and see some sorta insurrectiony stuff.

Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (NuVOb)

98 95 it's really so sad that the quality of troll has plummeted.
Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (Rbu5d)

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I'm trying, man...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (LvTSG)

99 It's not exactly a secret that the ChiComs intend to take over the world BAMN. They've been saying that's their goal for a long time.

**

I think something was leaked in the last week or so that said they were pursuing bioweapons as financial tools of war and not as the traditional casualty-driven weapons.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (XTk1T)

100 it's really so sad that the quality of troll has plummeted.
Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (Rbu5d)
++++
It's not an election year. Quality will improve next year, then decline again and we'll start getting the higher-quality deep-cover trolls in November of '23 through about February of '24. Then starting around July of '24 we'll get the "flood the zone" low-quality trolls in large number.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:40 PM (Jsjd7)

101 "girthy, yes. and musky."

AoS is the Sex Panther of the intertoobs.

Posted by: Bosk at May 21, 2021 12:40 PM (SWbVS)

102 I get healthier WHEN you spit on me, It dilutes the virus.

Posted by: Wuhan Bio Weapon Bat Soup at May 21, 2021 12:40 PM (cCxiu)

103 90 The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident?



My money's on purpose. It fits Xi's MO.

It's not exactly a secret that the ChiComs intend to take over the world BAMN. They've been saying that's their goal for a long time.

What's sad is that they're succeeding and doing it right out in the open now. And nobody in the Deep State Swamp dares to oppose them because Winnie the Pu owns them all.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (HaL55)

Didn't the chicoms just release (or a university toady release) cvrowing about besting the US in technology, trade, and biowar?

Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:41 PM (Rbu5d)

104 Saw some Twitter idiot countering the Frontline doctors with a chart of how effective smallpox, polio and a few other vaccines had been. The problem is that those were all true vaccines. mRNA is not. And it simply hasn't been tested enough. Meanwhile, there are a lot of cheap preventatives and early treatments that are being banned for use, for no particular reason.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 21, 2021 12:41 PM (5HBd1)

105 How Long before we start hearing reports that masks were useless after all?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:32 PM (KMdgS)
++++


People that pay attention to actual "science" and "physics" have been pointing this out for over a year. Otherwise, when medical workers are going into areas with unknown pathogens, they'd just be wearing a cheap chinese paper mask and latex gloves. Instead of - you know - actual masks that seal around the face and can filter out particles the size of a virus.

Thing is - even if/when this is finally accepted, there's going to be people who wear the things for the rest of their lives. It's like a security blanket for grownups. They should probably start making them with built-in pacifiers.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at May 21, 2021 12:41 PM (wAnMi)

106 Plante noted that Facebook labels the Wuhan leak "misinformation".

So there you go. Wannabe authoritarians, who come closer each day to being actual authoritarians showing themselves.

No. The "authoritarian urge" does not mainly come from conservative people of a non-authoritarian system.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 12:41 PM (cI7Oj)

107 How Long before we start hearing reports that masks were useless after all?


In a year or two, quietly. Right before we start seeing stories that say, "You know, maybe there WERE election irregularities--maybe even cheating. Massively. But many were so worried about the threat to "our Democracy" that Trump was that they overlooked and played down evidence that seemed to run counter to their way of thinking that....."

Bet on it.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:41 PM (HrMC1)

108 (2Krap) choosing the name Stinkling the next day is one of the funniest things I've ever seen here.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:42 PM (XTk1T)

109 105 it's really so sad that the quality of troll has plummeted.
Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (Rbu5d)
++++
It's not an election year. Quality will improve next year, then decline again and we'll start getting the higher-quality deep-cover trolls in November of '23 through about February of '24. Then starting around July of '24 we'll get the "flood the zone" low-quality trolls in large number.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:40 PM (Jsjd7)

sigh.
Quality is down everywhere...no work ethic.

Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:42 PM (Rbu5d)

110 Our side will not treat the MFM as traitors because we don't have the stomach for it. It's not - as the saying goes - who we are.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 21, 2021 12:38 PM (2JVJo)


Paul Ryan spoke for the entire GOP.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 21, 2021 12:42 PM (y7DUB)

111 *In Night of the Living Dead Voice*

They're coming for you Fauchi.

Posted by: Bete at May 21, 2021 12:42 PM (Ojki1)

112 DC/NY is one giant incestuous group of people. The director of this govt agency is married to the director of this other agency. And their kid is married to the kid of ABC News VP who has a cousin that works for the SEC whose mom is the director of yet another DC agency. And on and on.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:42 PM (KMdgS)

113 of course the wuflu was a lab accident

I thought this was generally accepted by those without their heads up their asses

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 12:42 PM (iTXRQ)

114 It's unlikely that this was created in a lab:
https://is.gd/Otq01r

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (Jsjd7)

115 Accident my ass, CNN

Posted by: Glenn John at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (LilNs)

116 Our Chicom newsletter says that when in doubt, use "debunked". *hic*
Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at May 21, 2021 12:30 PM (W4eKo)



I often need to "debunk" a little while after clicking links from Joe Mannix or kbdabear

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (mZUr4)

117
the GOPe is butthole, they made me choose between voting for Mitt Romney or Obama


Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (bTQ72)

118 Here's a blast from the past. Eerily prophetic for 11 years ago.https://youtu.be/4LUumD0MwL8

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (HaL55)

119 Morning Joe (aka Mrs. Mika) had a heck of a rant, demanding (paraphrasing) all Trump supporters get with the program, or leave the country.

Turn it 180 degrees, and I think most of us would be nodding our heads. Hard to see how we come back from this kind of divide.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (DMUuz)

120 (2Krap) choosing the name Stinkling the next day is one of the funniest things I've ever seen here.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:42 PM (XTk1T)


Bonus retard points for misspelling it.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (y7DUB)

121 Dumb question:

How come there are no articles saying an attack is also plausible?

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:44 PM (P/sKF)

122 My money's on purpose. It fits Xi's MO.

It's not exactly a secret that the ChiComs intend to take over the world BAMN. They've been saying that's their goal for a long time.

If the CCP plays around with this kind of shit, they deserve to be blown off the face of the earth by the US, and yes Russia, and every other nation with a nuke.

You DO NOT fuck around with this shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:44 PM (HrMC1)

123 I am predisposed to disbelieve Fauci, the CDC, the NIH, the FDA , or any other government agency at this point because the things they say aren't designed to inform but to manipulate and control. They lie when the truth would serve them better just to keep in practice.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 21, 2021 12:44 PM (esqbU)

124 it's a very deliberate lab leak by the chi coms. Too believe differently is to put your head in the sand. It was no accident.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (0OmEj)

125 The problem is that those were all true vaccines. mRNA is not. And it simply hasn't been tested enough. Meanwhile, there are a lot of cheap preventatives and early treatments that are being banned for use, for no particular reason.
Posted by: Notsothoreau


Definitive reasons.
HCQ won't make Moderna, Pfizer & J&J billions.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (OCTRt)

126 Joe Xiden - 100 years of observation and 70 years of randomized controlled trials never produced any evidence of anything but small benefit - in narrowly defined circumstances not corresponding to general use of anything but true respirator masks. This was known a year ago. The CDC itself (though this actually raises concern about credibility, due to CDC discarding that in the last year) published a meta-study surveying all the RCTs repeating this general finding.

And of course we're over a year into mass experiments in "mitigation" of all kinds including masks, without *any* evidence of efficacy of *any* of them (lockdowns, etc). Unless some has magically emerged since I gave up on the country and the society and stopped following it months back (but I'd have heard of it).

But with no press, hollow institutions (even under Trump, nothing was done about CDC's incompetence and dishonesty), and a dumbed down populace ..... well, welcome to your present and future. No change in sight. "Climate change" now faces zero barriers other than economic inertia as a fantasy with which to secure control of almost all human activity.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (OTzUX)

127 Doof did you finish your rewatch yet? I'm at the beginning of S5.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (P/sKF)

128 38 All these media twats suddenly and collectively acknowledging the plausibility of the accidental release theory, after almost 18 months of hysterical denials, is not an accident or born of honest reconsideration. Posted by: Elric Blade at May 21, 2021 12:29 PM (enXj9)

I think they relaized that there was no point in continuing the charade.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (Szvj6)

129 Once this story unravels further, the trail will go through Fidel's son's regime and Winnipeg. Just watch.

Posted by: Bert G at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (sAW0o)

130 Maybe eventually someone will ask how a super contagious virus that was running rampant through an international trade city in November where 10K people flew back and forth to the US every week waited until March to reach the US.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 21, 2021 12:25 PM (XTk1T)

My sister and I both got this before the world shut down. Local blood bank has said that they have found COVID antibodies from November of 2019. I thought everyone knew the March 2020 date was when we had a test, not when it arrived.

Posted by: Catherine at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (+CqU9)

131 OK first, King Sooper gave me 2 free tenderloins this morning

just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag

didn't notice til I got home
what to do

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (iTXRQ)

132 I would like to see a few state AGs get creative and charge some of these people, Google and Facebook especially, with practicing medicine without a license in their states.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (VbI7r)

133 the GOPe is butthole, they made me choose between voting for Mitt Romney or Obama

***

After paying attention over the last few months I'm pretty sure Romney won.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (XTk1T)

134 Andy Ngo has four key screenshots of Tigard-Tualatin school district "teacher training."

It is literally the way cults break and indoctrinate people.

Step one: Your core values and identity are bad
Step two: You should feel guilty about those things
Step three: Introduce a new set of beliefs, which are good
Step four: Struggle session to identify any remaining vestiges of your former identity for destruction and expulsion

https://bit.ly/3ysgS7X

Posted by: bonhomme at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (YYlyE)

135 The 'S.' in Dr. Anthony S. Fauci stands for:

Shitforbrains or Scamartist? Not sure but it just has to be one or the other.

Patton was George S Patton. Just S.

Posted by: torabora at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (YrdOP)

136 >>>It's unlikely that this was created in a lab:
https://is.gd/Otq01r
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (Jsjd7)

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That.... is tight!!

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs: Now fortified with Remdemsivir at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (73KCX)

137 Dumb question:

How come there are no articles saying an attack is also plausible?
Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:44 PM (P/sKF)

They do it by steps, by increments. They never give to us all at once.
Also, they'll say the attack is plausible if they can blame it on Trump.
After all it occurred on his watch.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:46 PM (HrMC1)

138 The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident? My money's on purpose. It fits Xi's MO

I'm not a big believe of the on-purpose theory. Why creates weapon that mostly kills the enemies aged and infirm? This is the exact opposite of what you would want to weaken an enemy.

Unless it was released specifically to cause panic, not kill, which it did better that they could have imagined.

Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2021 12:46 PM (MxEKc)

139 If the CCP plays around with this kind of shit, they deserve to be blown off the face of the earth by the US, and yes Russia, and every other nation with a nuke.

You DO NOT fuck around with this shit.
Posted by: JoeF.


This is how you go the way of the dinosaurs.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 12:46 PM (OCTRt)

140 just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag

didn't notice til I got home
what to do
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (iTXRQ)
++++
Try for an inept liquor store clerk so you can add some free whiskey to your evening of free steak and smoking? Alternatively, you can pay for the whiskey and quit while you're ahead...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:46 PM (Jsjd7)

141 Comms are only good for killing.

- Cloud William

Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2021 12:46 PM (gmo/4)

142 Yeah, If the likes of Bannon and Yan Li-Meng M.D., were not banished from twitter and right wing competitors there would be much more information about China and its accomplishments.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 12:47 PM (W9TB4)

143 Look at the differences in culture/society pre and post virus. 14 months of "change".

It will give you clarity.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:47 PM (P/sKF)

144 it's a very deliberate lab leak by the chi coms. Too believe differently is to put your head in the sand. It was no accident.

The alternative - that millions of people just signed on to modify their immune systems to attack a naturally occurring protein - could have world altering consequences.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 21, 2021 12:47 PM (PQMST)

145

We always wear a mask and never got the virus!

Well, not the Covid one, anyway...

Posted by: BTH-ChemJ-BiNo Daisy Chain Friday Bathhouse Surprise at May 21, 2021 12:47 PM (Xqwj1)

146
In Conclusion:

The ENTIRE purpose of Twitter is to tell stupid people What To Think -- it is literally "marching orders" for the day. And I do mean "day," because the orders can, and usually do, change the very next day.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 12:47 PM (12J5H)

147 didn't notice til I got home
what to do
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (iTXRQ)



Share them with me?

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (Ez6QX)

148 147 just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag
-------------------------

Is she cute?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (W9TB4)

149 I'm not a big believe of the on-purpose theory. Why creates weapon that mostly kills the enemies aged and infirm? This is the exact opposite of what you would want to weaken an enemy.
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Why would eugenicists and people who run out of other people's money want to dispense with the elderly and infirm?

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (P/sKF)

150 I think the mask thing points out why "Science" is a great tool, but terrible world view (and that's trying to make it fit a role the Reverend called "Father of Chemistry", the Sunday-school teacher inventor of Diff-EQ and higher maths never intended for it to have.)

As I like to make distinctions (it's almost an endorphin producer for me). In the last thread, I overgeneralized "atheism" for the flat/rote thinker "the obviousness of No God" can often produce. (When I was an atheist, I was never a rote or "flat thinker", so the two aren't inseparable).

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (cI7Oj)

151 Doof did you finish your rewatch yet? I'm at the beginning of S5.
Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (P/sKF)



Midway through Season 6. "Choo Choo"!

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (mZUr4)

152 From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (P/sKF)

153 My sister and I both got this before the world shut down. Local blood bank has said that they have found COVID antibodies from November of 2019. I thought everyone knew the March 2020 date was when we had a test, not when it arrived.
Posted by: Catherine at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (+CqU9)

There are plentiful anecdotal stories about people with unusually persistent flus around the Holidays, 2019.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (HrMC1)

154 "Accident", LOL, many ploblem go away, just in time, Hong Kong, Trump, old people live too long, many ploblem.

Posted by: CCP at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (aAP3z)

155 >It's unlikely that this was created in a lab:

https://is.gd/Otq01r

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (Jsjd7)


Is the price the same as in town?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it...

Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (gmo/4)

156 It's unlikely that this was created in a lab:
https://is.gd/Otq01r
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:43 PM (Jsjd7)

I'm thinking a grudge match Joe Mannix vs kbdabear!
Could do a whole thread on it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (axyOa)

157 DC/NY is one giant incestuous group of people. The director of this govt agency is married to the director of this other agency. And their kid is married to the kid of ABC News VP who has a cousin that works for the SEC whose mom is the director of yet another DC agency. And on and on.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:42 PM (KMdgS)
--
The modern (petty) nobility. They are jealous of their rank and privileges.

Posted by: Revenant at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (I76dP)

158 Midway through Season 6. "Choo Choo"!
Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (mZUr4)

Meeting Choo Choo is one of the best scenes in the whole show. I'm not following you.

6 is just jam packed with goodness.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (P/sKF)

159 Chi nah is slyly letting laboratory cat out of the bag. They're cluing us into knowing that they got MOAR virus waiting.

Posted by: torabora at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (YrdOP)

160 Does BuzzFeed have a 10 Ways Scarborough Destroyed Trump today, you will not believe number 3 story yet?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (KMdgS)

161 "championed by the folks who brought us Pizzagate"

'Pizzagate' was pretty revealing, actually. Showed that some people enjoy LARPing as satanic perverts, at the very least.

Posted by: gp, aka Mr. Tact at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (qpX6U)

162 >>>My sister and I both got this before the world shut down. Local blood bank has said that they have found COVID antibodies from November of 2019. I thought everyone knew the March 2020 date was when we had a test, not when it arrived.
Posted by: Catherine at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (+CqU9)

======

My brother believes he had it in Nov. 2019. Just after getting back from trip to Long Beach. Unexplained flu-like symptoms.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs: Now fortified with Remdemsivir at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (73KCX)

163 138..didn't notice til I got home
what to do
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (iTXRQ)

go back and pay for them.

Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:50 PM (Rbu5d)

164 47 just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag

She is trying to kill you

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:50 PM (HrMC1)

165 Thanks for this great post. Anyone who challenges or even disproves an opposing hypothesis does not provide evidence that their pet hypothesis is correct. When you think science is ever settled, you begin to think things that aren't so.
And I was a virologist.

Posted by: KungPow at May 21, 2021 12:50 PM (65VEA)

166 I'm thinking a grudge match Joe Mannix vs kbdabear!
Could do a whole thread on it.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (axyOa)
++++
I forfeit immediately, for two reasons:
1) He is an artist, where as I am more of a technician
2) He does Ginger Thursday on the ONT. Ginger Thursday is the best day of the week.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:50 PM (Jsjd7)

167 I'm thinking a grudge match Joe Mannix vs kbdabear!
Could do a whole thread on it.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (axyOa)



Giggity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:50 PM (mZUr4)

168
I figured out why Scott Adams hasn't been "canceled" and never will be: he's the perfect cuck.

Scott Adams believes everything he sees on Fake News and just tries to be a Better Manager of whatever bullshit-situation the Left throws at him (just like the Republican Shits).

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 12:50 PM (12J5H)

169 >> just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag


Go into business selling loosies!

Posted by: garrett at May 21, 2021 12:50 PM (VxtUn)

170 -----

Why would eugenicists and people who run out of other people's money want to dispense with the elderly and infirm?
Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (P/sKF)
----------------------

It succeeded in turning the world upside down.
Yep

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 12:50 PM (W9TB4)

171 My sister and I both got this before the world shut down. Local blood bank has said that they have found COVID antibodies from November of 2019. I thought everyone knew the March 2020 date was when we had a test, not when it arrived.
Posted by: Catherine at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (+CqU9)

**

Wait, so then how did the guy who flew into Seattle from Wuhan on January 15th or so (and was isolated and contained) become the first known case in the US?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:51 PM (XTk1T)

172 just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag

didn't notice til I got home
what to do
Posted by: DB


Save them for currency in the camps.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 21, 2021 12:51 PM (nI1Kq)

173
ruth without Consequences is just a bad Bob Barker game show.
Posted by: Dusty Boomer

Geeze I'm old.
Posted by: rickb223


Time's up!

Posted by: Beulah the buzzer at May 21, 2021 12:51 PM (63Dwl)

174 Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 12:47 PM (12J5H)

It has two purposes.

1. To tell people what to think the next day
2. To validate them for their thoughts the previous day

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:52 PM (P/sKF)

175 The ENTIRE purpose of Twitter is to tell stupid people What To Think -- it is literally "marching orders" for the day. And I do mean "day," because the orders can, and usually do, change the very next day.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 12:47 PM (12J5H)
---
I decided that I mince too many words. So, you mean Democrats. Democrats are that herd of people that can hear their leaders equate an event that killed 3000 people and event that resulted in the death of 1 of its "perpetrators" and simply think they really, really hate one, and 3000 people killed is nothing to smile at either, so they are "similar".

Face it, there is a *whole* lot of dumbing down going on, and the result is Democrat-voters.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 12:52 PM (cI7Oj)

176 Totally OT but if Weasel is reading...I just set up my Strikeman laser trainer.

AWESOME!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2021 12:52 PM (axyOa)

177 After living through this psyop for over a year and counting, who do you believe? The "experts" or your own lying eyes?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 12:52 PM (jvt6t)

178 >>>I'm thinking a grudge match Joe Mannix vs kbdabear!
Could do a whole thread on it.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (axyOa)

======

Natural vs Silicone

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs: Now fortified with Remdemsivir at May 21, 2021 12:52 PM (73KCX)

179
Yeah, the last time I got sick with flu-like symptoms was mid-December 2019.

Did I have the chinese-democrat virus? I dunno.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 12:52 PM (12J5H)

180 Midway through Season 6. "Choo Choo"!
Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (mZUr4)

Meeting Choo Choo is one of the best scenes in the whole show. I'm not following you.

6 is just jam packed with goodness.
Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:49 PM (P/sKF)



Agreed! I don't want to say too much more in case Nurse is here. She's still on Season 4 so I want to be mindful of spoilers.

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 12:53 PM (mZUr4)

181 Feynman:
"The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the SOLE JUDGE of scientific "truth."

from 6 Easy Pieces, 1963.

they all flunk his class.

Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:53 PM (Rbu5d)

182 just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag

didn't notice til I got home
what to do
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (iTXRQ)
+++++
Put together a circular rig of piping that your can wear around your neck, with 20 ports around the outside of it and a single tube reaching up toward your face. Make the size of the port hole larger around back than it is toward the front. Place a cigarette in each port and light it. You can then smoke a pack at a time for increased efficiency. This will require some dialing in to calibrate it for consistent burn rate, so the free carton will defray some of your R&D costs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:53 PM (Jsjd7)

183 Netflix has a movie called American Factory. It is a doc about a Chinese company that opens a plant in Ohio. The contempt the Chinese have for Americans is eye opening. And this is shit they said knowing cameras were rolling.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:53 PM (KMdgS)

184 Just wait until Season 14...

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 21, 2021 12:53 PM (2BgZB)

185 183 Netflix has a movie called American Factory. It is a doc about a Chinese company that opens a plant in Ohio. The contempt the Chinese have for Americans is eye opening. And this is shit they said knowing cameras were rolling.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:53 PM (KMdgS)

=========

Produced by Obama

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 12:54 PM (LvTSG)

186 In our system, there are three branches of govrnment:

the FBI, the CIA and the NSA.

The Washington Post is the CIA mouthpiece. What you are seeing is the Deep State getting ready to jettison
Dr. Franken-Fauci if need be. They will pin it all on him even though they were all in on the War Crime.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 21, 2021 12:54 PM (m6qV1)

187 Patton was George S Patton. Just S.
Posted by: torabora at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM



You're confusing George Smith Patton, Jr. with Harry S Truman.

Posted by: Bert G at May 21, 2021 12:54 PM (sAW0o)

188 131 OK first, King Sooper gave me 2 free tenderloins this morning

just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag

didn't notice til I got home
what to do
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (iTXRQ)

Truth is the store doesn't really care. Don't worry about it. It goes into "spoilage".

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (z5Vrg)

189 It spawned racist rumors like "Chinese labs sell their dead experimental animals in food markets."

It's not too farfetched to believe that a population deprived of basic protein sources wouldn't look too closely at what kind of meat was provided at a street vendor. Or that in a society of shared misery, someone was willing to be unethical to make some money.

Posted by: pookysgirl has never eaten yakitori at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (XKZwp)

190 My sister and I both got this before the world shut down. Local blood bank has said that they have found COVID antibodies from November of 2019. I thought everyone knew the March 2020 date was when we had a test, not when it arrived.
Posted by: Catherine at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (+CqU9)

**
Wait, so then how did the guy who flew into Seattle from Wuhan on January 15th or so (and was isolated and contained) become the first known case in the US?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:51 PM (XTk1T)

As mentioned previously, my Chinese students at the university where I don't teach anymore were told by their parents in early December NOT to come home for the Christmas and New Years holidays.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (axyOa)

191 I hadn't had the flu in 20 years until 2019 and it was the worst case of flu I can remember. I'm convinced it was chink bio-weapon flu.

Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (gmo/4)

192 Wait, so then how did the guy who flew into Seattle from Wuhan on January 15th or so (and was isolated and contained) become the first known case in the US?
Posted by: Moron Robbie


Because until they decided to name it, it was just the flu.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (OCTRt)

193 170 -----

Why would eugenicists and people who run out of other people's money want to dispense with the elderly and infirm?
Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:48 PM (P/sKF)
----------------------

It succeeded in turning the world upside down.
Yep
...
Saves us Medicaid bucks.

Posted by: Killin' Cuomo at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (Rbu5d)

194 In a year or two, we'll start seeing stories that say, "You know, maybe there WERE election irregularities--maybe even cheating. Massively. But many were so worried about the threat to "our Democracy" that Trump posed that they overlooked and played down evidence that seemed to run counter to their way of thinking ....."

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (HrMC1)

195 That.... is tight!!
Hubba hubba. I bet that wasn't her first drink, either.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (HaL55)

196 Feb 3 2020 friend stayed night before at friend's home. Didn't feel good. Drove home on motorcycle and dropped dead on porch. Covid ...who knows?

Posted by: torabora at May 21, 2021 12:56 PM (YrdOP)

197 "The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident?"


Maybe we will find out, maybe not. Regardless, the first step taken in the Wuhan Lab is the root cause of the mess we are experiencing: Creating a virus that is harmful to humans.

No such virus, no way it can get out of any lab, intentionally or unintentionally. Creating a harmful virus tempts fate, also known as Murphy's Law.

Republicans in Congress should be pounding Fauci about whether he advocates further work, anywhere in the world, on creation of human-harmful biologicals. If he does, why? If he does, what does Stumblin' Joe think about it? At least get the topic out there and TRY to get answers.

Posted by: Gref at May 21, 2021 12:56 PM (AMIL/)

198 It has two purposes.

1. To tell people what to think the next day
2. To validate them for their thoughts the previous day
Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 12:52 PM (P/sKF)
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The (unintended? evolved? emergent? ) purpose of Twitter is groupthink expression and enforcement.

Two things are rewarded. 1) The fastest reactor and 2) the most extreme summations or summary dismissals. #2 usually by humor which requires associating two things not normally associated together and hyperbole--but it could be just a straight up emotional spew.

Thus the left is training and re-training its most automatic and vehement reactions each day.

Theocracy is soon going to have nothing on this batch of batch-thinkers.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 12:56 PM (cI7Oj)

199 Totally OT but if Weasel is reading...I just set up my Strikeman laser trainer.

AWESOME!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2021 12:52 PM (axyOa)



Oooh, I want one of those!

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 21, 2021 12:56 PM (Ez6QX)

200 ..and I'm out. Lot's of work to do.

Bye!

Posted by: Flyover at May 21, 2021 12:57 PM (Rbu5d)

201 ... No such virus, no way it can get out of any lab, intentionally or unintentionally. Creating a harmful virus tempts fate, also known as Murphy's Law. ...
Posted by: Gref at May 21, 2021 12:56 PM (AMIL/)
++++
And don't forget the corollary to Murphy's Law:
"Murphy was an optimist."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:57 PM (Jsjd7)

202 Produced by Obama in name only. He probably spent a grand total of 5 mins on it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 12:57 PM (KMdgS)

203 just now, somehow the clerk at the convenience store managed to put an extra CARTON of cigarettes in my bag


Go into business selling loosies!
Posted by: garrett

You'll be FAMOUS !

Posted by: JT at May 21, 2021 12:57 PM (arJlL)

204 Because until they decided to name it, it was just the flu.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 12:55 PM (OCTRt)
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Not the basketball team that came home sick in October.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 12:57 PM (W9TB4)

205 "If the CCP plays around with this kind of shit, they deserve to be blown off the face of the earth by the US, and yes Russia, and every other nation with a nuke." joe


Trump was winning on that issue as well ... working on different supply lines, uniting "The Quad" (Aussies, India, Japan, US?) against China in the region. Probably also making headway with Europe on cutting off China "colonization" of the globe. So "They" had to stop that, put China back at top ... Fluckin Globalists ... American Liberty is their biggest enemy, then The West in general ... (I still assume the NWO thinks they can handle China later, but who knows?)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (Cus5s)

206 Wait, so then how did the guy who flew into Seattle from Wuhan on January 15th or so (and was isolated and contained) become the first known case in the US?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:51 PM (XTk1T)

Maybe he was specifically tested for it?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (HrMC1)

207 Posted by: Inspector kemp at May 21, 2021 12:39 PM (Szvj6)

You've been watching a lot of Tom Clancy movies, I gather. It isn't like a sample of uranium that can be traced back to Oak Ridge, TN. The virus could have been gain-of-functioned anywhere in the world.

Nobody is interested in what was going in Wuhan, a metro of 8+ million people, fall of 2019. They were having some yellow BLM problems, with pollution scandals among the usual Chicom corruption.

If somebody wanted to frame someone in local gov't or at the Wuhan Institute of Pandemic Tech -- the internationally esteemed "Old Ivy" of such coof ops, I'm informed by you 30-minute keyboard experts -- then this would be a great way to goose that along.

The virus could have developed anywhere. They don't have a recipe in a vault like Col. Sanders at Wuhan University.

Posted by: Swamposphere at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (6VCiI)

208 My knowledge of http predates Twitter. Why do embedded tweets take so much resources to load? How many megabytes are transferred per embedded tweet? How much CPU does a browser need to render the damn things?

Seems like an opportunity for some software entrepreneur to invent a tweet compression algorithm and offer it as a SaaS. Something that would OCR-extract all the text out of the fucking things, and just deliver the text without all the other crap.

Posted by: gp, aka Mr. Tact at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (qpX6U)

209 Huh. So this is interesting. There's bright, direct sun and a lot of greenery in the background. This implies that the setting is well into spring if not summer. Yet despite that, it's also chilly. Odd.
https://is.gd/JVUnfu

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (Jsjd7)

210 I read that.

Posted by: ungrateful servant at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (BYNHj)

211 Oooh, I want one of those!

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 21, 2021 12:56 PM (Ez6QX)


Not very expensive and I got a laser for both the 9mm and .380.
Very helpful.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (axyOa)

212 138 The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident? My money's on purpose. It fits Xi's MO

I'm not a big believe of the on-purpose theory. Why creates weapon that mostly kills the enemies aged and infirm? This is the exact opposite of what you would want to weaken an enemy.

Unless it was released specifically to cause panic, not kill, which it did better that they could have imagined.
Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2021 12:46 PM (MxEKc)

China has a lot of aged and infirm. War can be waged on your own people as well, though of course official numbers say China has barely been touched by Winnie the Flu.

Posted by: Bete at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (Ojki1)

213 Trump was winning on that issue as well ... working on different supply lines, uniting "The Quad" (Aussies, India, Japan, US?) against China in the region. Probably also making headway with Europe on cutting off China "colonization" of the globe. So "They" had to stop that, put China back at top ... Fluckin Globalists ... American Liberty is their biggest enemy, then The West in general ... (I still assume the NWO thinks they can handle China later, but who knows?)
Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (Cus5s)

Trump was also going o get us Greenland.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (HrMC1)

214 Now do Election fraud!

Posted by: Shaftoe at May 21, 2021 12:59 PM (1lOfI)

215 Liberal's bait and switch reactions be like:
---
"There is NO cannibalism in the British Navy, absolutely none.
And when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount."

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:00 PM (cI7Oj)

216 I thought everyone knew the March 2020 date was when we had a test, not when it arrived.
Posted by: Catherine at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM
**
Wait, so then how did the guy who flew into Seattle from Wuhan on January 15th or so (and was isolated and contained) become the first known case in the US?
***
Maybe he was specifically tested for it?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM

***

Still waiting to hear the answer on this one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 01:00 PM (XTk1T)

217 197 "The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident?"
----------------

And

Why didn't they tell us as soon as possible?
Why haven't they allowed our scientists to observe the lab and tests in order to make a better vaccine?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 01:00 PM (W9TB4)

218 The lab leak explanation was the only explanation that made sense because...

- The Chinese locked down Wuhan because a deadly virus was circulating among the population.

- There is a BS4 Virology Lab in Wuhan.

- THE FUCKING SCIENTIST THAT WORKED ON GAIN OF FUNCTION AT THE LAB SAID THE VIRUS LEAKED FROM THE LAB.


You know, using reason, logic and the fucking words of the people involved.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2021 01:01 PM (zJvA6)

219 Trump was winning on that issue as well ... working on different supply lines, uniting "The Quad" (Aussies, India, Japan, US?) against China in the region. ...
Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (Cus5s)
+++++
This was something that Bush 43 got very right and Trump lifted it wholesale. Bush 43 was working on the "4x4" alliance consisting of ... The US, Japan, India and Australia at the core, with aligned Pacific nations providing support (Korea, Taiwan, New Zealand).

Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Bush 43 wasn't 100% wrong. Just wrong a whole lot of the time. He strength was in foreign policy. He'd have made a much better SoS than president.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:01 PM (Jsjd7)

220 No such virus, no way it can get out of any lab, intentionally or unintentionally. Creating a harmful virus tempts fate, also known as Murphy's Law. ...
Posted by: Gref at May 21, 2021 12:56 PM (AMIL/)
---
Hubris!

Posted by: The Furies at May 21, 2021 01:01 PM (cI7Oj)

221 The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident? My money's on purpose. It fits Xi's MO

I'm not a big believe of the on-purpose theory. Why creates weapon that mostly kills the enemies aged and infirm? This is the exact opposite of what you would want to weaken an enemy.

Unless it was released specifically to cause panic, not kill, which it did better that they could have imagined.
Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2021 12:46 PM (MxEKc)

They want their old and infirm to die. They can't afford them.

And JoeF., I knew it wasn't the flu because I do not get the flu. Closest I've ever matched the symptoms, but negative for flu and strep at Urgent Care. A week of zPac and prednisone, another week of fatigue, and I was fine. Exposed at least four times to the China Flu afterward and never got sick. I don't need no stinking vaccine.

And whoever asked about the January case, tests were only available in hospitals around here until March 2020. I did hear about them going back and testing corpses for it to add to the COVID deaths.

Posted by: Catherine at May 21, 2021 01:01 PM (+CqU9)

222 Twitter has weaponized the online mob. The first thing Facebook did was dispense with individuality. The internet at one time was a very individual place full of free expression.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 01:01 PM (P/sKF)

223 the GOPe is butthole, they made me choose between voting for Mitt Romney or Obama

***

After paying attention over the last few months I'm pretty sure Romney won.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (XTk1T)


Fuck it, I don't care; one America hating grifting piece of shit versus another.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 21, 2021 01:02 PM (y7DUB)

224
What's also interesting in the time-line of the Scamdemic is how the Democrats downplayed the threat of the world-wide virus during the fake impeachment.

Why?
Because President Trump was sounding the alarm bell too soon. He was upsetting their plan to say Trump ignored the virus, which they and Fake News did, anyway.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 01:02 PM (12J5H)

225 Breibart has an article talking about Chinese labs selling lab animals when the experient is done. It was published 24 Feb 2020, entitled

Chinese scientists sell lab animals as meat on the black market.

Posted by: Lirio100 at May 21, 2021 01:02 PM (uFOGo)

226 the January 6 Capitol invasion.

Now it's an invasion. By a couple dozen people. Who were all citizens. Non-violent citizens. Into public government buildings. An invasion.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 21, 2021 01:02 PM (U7wke)

227 THE FUCKING SCIENTIST THAT WORKED ON GAIN OF FUNCTION AT THE LAB SAID THE VIRUS LEAKED FROM THE LAB.

You know, using reason, logic and the fucking words of the people involved.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


That's just silly. Like they know.

/the left

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 01:02 PM (OCTRt)

228 "There is NO cannibalism in the British Navy, absolutely none.

BUUUUUURRRRRRPPPP!

Posted by: JT at May 21, 2021 01:02 PM (arJlL)

229 We -- Republicans, conservatives -- could win the war against the Left is less than a year if we were united and determined. Their ideas are shit, and their champions are worse. It's a matter of will, guts and imagination. We'd slaughter them. Easy peezy. It would even be fun.

Posted by: Ordinary American at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (u9h5+)

230 Trump will get us Greenland.

By the time he is re-elected Denmark's economy will be in the dumper but we will still have enough cash to swing the deal.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (W9TB4)

231 Dr. Franken-Fauci if need be. They will pin it all on him even though they were all in on the War Crime.

I, for one, welcome our new tech overlords. BTW Mika, I want a divorce. We don't even need to cheat on each other.

Posted by: Mourning Joe Scarborough at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (Qs1bC)

232 At least Richard Rorty admitted that his criterion of truth was consensus, and consensus of "reasonable" people. He even admitted that meant liberals.

That is actually almost universal nowadays, but very few will admit it. To be fair, they don't entirely realize that is their view. Clarity of thought is another of their weak points.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (7X3UV)

233
Twitter's "trending now" feature is a nice touch, too

Really makes the day's Marching Orders for the Stupid really easy and fast to access.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (12J5H)

234

Amazon has temporarily shut down a new warehouse construction site in Connecticut after a seventh noose was found hanging over a beam, a series of incidents local police called "potential" hate crimes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (63Dwl)

235 Fuck it, I don't care; one America hating grifting piece of shit versus another.

***

I don't disagree one single bit, just that I'm pretty sure people voted Obama out of his second term but the levers they pulled weren't attached to anything on the other end.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (XTk1T)

236 234

Amazon has temporarily shut down a new warehouse construction site in Connecticut after a seventh noose was found hanging over a beam, a series of incidents local police called "potential" hate crimes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (63Dwl)

=========

"It's a spider web."

"All spiders must now take diversity courses."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

237 In Conclusion:



The ENTIRE purpose of Twitter is to tell stupid people What To Think
-- it is literally "marching orders" for the day. And I do mean "day,"
because the orders can, and usually do, change the very next day.


Stan seems particularly fond of that screen of his (one of the two beasts mentioned in Revelation). Confusing and contradictory messages beamed to people who always look to others for direction instead of their own experience and judgement is designed to drive the weak crazy. And it's doing a great job, I must say.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 01:04 PM (HaL55)

238 I love all of the liberals defending politifact using the term "new facts". Those aren't new facts, they were THE facts the whole time.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 21, 2021 01:04 PM (h1jJh)

239 Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2021 01:01 PM (zJvA6)

Welding people's apartment doors shut for them to die is only proof that the virus was *CIRCULATING* in Wuhan. Not that it originated there.

Posted by: Swamposphere at May 21, 2021 01:05 PM (6VCiI)

240 238 I love all of the liberals defending politifact using the term "new facts". Those aren't new facts, they were THE facts the whole time.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 21, 2021 01:04 PM (h1jJh)

=========

Conservatives keep ending up right over time a whole lot. Weird, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

241 ***

After paying attention over the last few months I'm pretty sure Romney won.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (XTk1T)
---------------------

Agreed
I think many elections have been won and lost that way.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 01:05 PM (W9TB4)

242 Not that Russia is a force of good in the world, but the difference between them and China is that if Russia had info that a pathogen leaked or escaped from one of their labs, they would have let the rest of the world know.

China is all about saving face.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 01:06 PM (HrMC1)

243 this is a good post, compelling and rich
Posted by: ace

smells of Corinthian leather

Posted by: Miklos, impressed at May 21, 2021 01:06 PM (QzkSJ)

244 >go back and pay for them.
Posted by: Flyover \\\



I returned them
had they been my brand I would have been in a horny dilemma

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:06 PM (iTXRQ)

245 241 Agreed
I think many elections have been won and lost that way.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 01:05 PM (W9TB4)

=========

Theory:

Gore was supposed to win in 2000 by agreement between the parties, but W won Florida's voters by too much.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

246 From MacNeil's article on Medium:

"And China's lack of candor is disturbing. It denies access to the institute's lab logs and whatever messages were swapped during its own investigations, took down 2018 statements critical of lab biosecurity protocols, retaliated against Australia for advocating an open investigation and sharply restricted the W.H.O. investigators."

Now, apply that logic to the Maricopa County investigation of the 2020 Presidential Election, and still tell me that there's nothing to see there.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 21, 2021 01:07 PM (mdjgu)

247 smells of Corinthian leather
Posted by: Miklos, impressed at May 21, 2021 01:06 PM (QzkSJ)
++++
CORINTH IS FAMOUS FOR ITS LEATHER!

Posted by: Archer (the cartoon character, not the regular poster) at May 21, 2021 01:07 PM (Jsjd7)

248 214 Now do Election fraud!
Posted by: Shaftoe at May 21, 2021 12:59 PM (1lOfI)

In America, election fraud do you!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:07 PM (jvt6t)

249 I just got to rub this in my son's face for saying I was a conspiracy theorist way back.

Told him he thinks he's not a leftist but falls for their OBVIOUS BULLSHIT

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (ySQBZ)

250 Now do Election fraud!
Posted by: Shaftoe at May 21, 2021 12:59 PM (1lOfI)
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Election fraud did me.

:: staggers away, rubbing his ass ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (Jsjd7)

251 I returned them
had they been my brand I would have been in a horny dilemma
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:06 PM (iTXRQ)

I'm listening.....

Posted by: Shep! at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (jvt6t)

252
The giveaway that the "pandemic" was planned was biden, in October 2019, reading the words prepared for him saying President Trump isn't ready for a pandemic.

At the very same time, the Democrats were downplaying the threat of a growing epidemic in several other countries.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (12J5H)

253 After paying attention over the last few months I'm pretty sure Romney won.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:45 PM (XTk1T)

Romney was acting like he already won, Obama was acting like he already lost.

Also, Michael Barone, whose prime focus is election data had Romney winning all the rust belt states.
He lost all or most of them

Trump would win them all in '16.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (HrMC1)

254 Twitter is a cesspool
Facebook is an outhouse
CNN is a danger to the democracy

Posted by: wth at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (v0R5T)

255 "The only question is was the bug released on purpose, or by accident?"
Accidentally on purpose.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 01:09 PM (HaL55)

256 I don't disagree one single bit, just that I'm pretty sure people voted Obama out of his second term but the levers they pulled weren't attached to anything on the other end.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (XTk1T)


I'm sure you're right. I've felt our elections haven't been on the up and up for a long time and what's happening in Arizona is bearing that out. And fuck Dominion; those shits are filthy as hell and kudos to Powell and Lindell for not knuckling under.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 21, 2021 01:09 PM (y7DUB)

257 can someone explain 'gain of function' to me

I'm not a scientist, but I have seen Son Of Flubber

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:09 PM (iTXRQ)

258 The giveaway that the "pandemic" was planned was biden, in October 2019, reading the words prepared for him saying President Trump isn't ready for a pandemic.

At the very same time, the Democrats were downplaying the threat of a growing epidemic in several other countries.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (12J5H)

Maybe Biden blabbed the secret and the Dems had to play down the threat of a pandemic.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 01:10 PM (HrMC1)

259 Also, Michael Barone, whose prime focus is election data had Romney winning all the rust belt states.
He lost all or most of them

Trump would win them all in '16.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (HrMC1)

***

I'll have to go dig up the post I saw where it compared the greater total number of counties Trump won to the total that First Historic Barry won, and Trump still lost to Biden as he won fewer counties than either.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 01:10 PM (XTk1T)

260 The lab leak hypothesis is the only viable one. Zoonotic spillover pretty much requires intermediate hosts between bats and humans, and none such have been found.

"Lab leak" has 3 variants:

1. Deliberate release, either by agents of the Deep State or the CCP, to the extent that they can be differentiated.

2. Simple incompetence, like doing Level 4 work in a Level 2 facility.

3. Venal employee stealing infected lab animals to sell in wet market, or even to eat at home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2021 01:10 PM (lob/Y)

261 >>China's lack of candor is disturbing.

Lack of candor? Really?

The fucking Chinese are still reporting a grand total of 4600 deaths since the Plandemic began.


Lack of candor?


These fucking people make me sick.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2021 01:11 PM (zJvA6)

262 Accidentally on purpose.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 01:09 PM (HaL55)
++++
The Jesus and Mary Chain featuring the staggeringly hot Hope Sandoval - Sometimes Always:
https://youtu.be/WdAcS4c0-Qk

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:11 PM (Jsjd7)

263 "It's a spider web."

"All spiders must now take diversity courses."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

Spins web.

Fuck that.

Posted by: Charlotte at May 21, 2021 01:11 PM (Ojki1)

264 At least Richard Rorty admitted that his criterion of truth was consensus, and consensus of "reasonable" people. He even admitted that meant liberals.

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So you need real "reasonable" people to reach a valuable consensus. So, what consensus tells you it's a quorum of "reasonable" people?

People try to add so much to "truth". But he's really saying that for everybody that the brain takes as a "reasonable" person there is a 1-to-1 mapping with a person accepted into the group.

So, people fuck up by trying to add to the simple correlation scheme some "consistency" of truth.

Yes, exactly what "correlates" between the brain and "reality" is problematic. But it is an unmistakable implication of "truth".

I usually argue that "consistency" is more about "meaning" than what is "truth". The "truth" is out there whether or not enough people know it to have a "consensus" about it or not. It's the utility of the mental model.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:11 PM (cI7Oj)

265 The new facts used to be alternative facts.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 01:11 PM (P/sKF)

266 I love all of the liberals defending politifact using the term "new facts". Those aren't new facts, they were THE facts the whole time.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks

Alternative facts

Posted by: Kayleigh McEnmiklos at May 21, 2021 01:11 PM (QzkSJ)

267 >>These fucking people make me sick.


The Chinaman is NOT the issue, Dude!

Posted by: garrett at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (VxtUn)

268 We paid for Hitler's war machine. Now we're paying the Chinese military to create bio weapons and for Iran to build nukes.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (ySQBZ)

269 If I was going to test my newly hatched bat flu I'd "accidently" infect some people and turn them loose in the wild to see how my bug worked.

Plausible deniability. Ooopsy. My bad. So sorry. It's not that bad, really.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (3H9h1)

270 The new facts used to be alternative facts.
Posted by: ...

Ha!

Posted by: Kayleigh McEnmiklos at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (QzkSJ)

271 Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (12J5H)

The Democrats response was completely reactive, no big-brain deep-state planning at any point ever. Just try to stampede everyone and play the odds, that's their entire strategic philosophy in one phrase. From "You're overreacting, you can't shut the holy open borders" (which side Trump initially appeared to be biased towards) to "You're not turning the country into a fascist hellscape quickly enough, you're sending a bad message to the children, WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE COOFING CHILDREN"

Posted by: Swamposphere at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (6VCiI)

272
Assume (and I'm not saying it's the case) that we obtain incontrovertible evidence that the COVID virus was made in a lab in China and escaped, even accidentally. What would we do?

I think part of the zeal to "debunk" and "discredit" comes from a horror of facing up to that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (mht8P)

273 NYC: Black Lives Matter And Pro-Palestinian Activists Chant 'Black Lives Matter, Crackers Don't Matter'

https://bit.ly/3wmrVOc

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Catchy!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (VVEnO)

274 TrumpPutin would win them all in '16.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 01:08 PM (HrMC1)
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FIFY

Posted by: Bitter Ender at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (cI7Oj)

275 Man, am I going to be busy digging holes for j-school grads come the revolution....
Posted by: Grave Digger at May 21, 2021 12:27 PM (7bRMQ)

You're going to be ripped.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (lob/Y)

276 Fresh facts, every ten minutes!
Free parking!

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (iTXRQ)

277 the January 6 Capitol invasion.

Now it's an invasion. By a couple dozen people. Who were all citizens. Non-violent citizens. Into public government buildings. An invasion.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
........

The People's House, now with more walls and National Guardsmen.

Posted by: wth at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (v0R5T)

278 Black Lives Matter And Pro-Palestinian Activists Chant 'Black Lives Matter, Crackers Don't Matter'

https://bit.ly/3wmrVOc ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (VVEnO)
++++
They rhymed "matter" with "matter?" Seriously? how about a little bit of quality control, folks?

"Black Lives Matter! Fry crackers in batter!"
I mean, that also sucks but it's still better than the original.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (Jsjd7)

279 Gotta love that CNN bit: "I asked a Chinese state scientist in the dictatorial communist Chinese government was to blame for Wuhan Flu and shockingly he said no"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)

280 as I recall, Trump's ideas about Greenland were private, but some leftist traitors inside leaked it to harm Trump. (and to make it harder to get a deal, as he was then openly rebuked by Greenland? (or by Denmark, I forget)

But yes, we need Greenland on our side at least, as Europe craters to leftists/globalists. Would be a very cold assignment though, to be on that base (not even sure it is still active, I think so)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (Cus5s)

281 Assume (and I'm not saying it's the case) that we obtain incontrovertible evidence that the COVID virus was made in a lab in China and escaped, even accidentally. What would we do?

I think part of the zeal to "debunk" and "discredit" comes from a horror of facing up to that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (mht8P)
--
Agreed. There would need to be some action, most especially in the case of intentional release.

Posted by: Revenant at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (I76dP)

282 >Assume (and I'm not saying it's the case) that we obtain incontrovertible evidence that the COVID virus was made in a lab in China and escaped, even accidentally. What would we do?


Condemn Israel!

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (iTXRQ)

283 Miklos here during the day! What's up, Mr Road Trip?!?

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 01:15 PM (mZUr4)

284 I'm not a scientist, but I have seen Son Of Flubber
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:09 PM (iTXRQ)
........

Hunter Biden?

Posted by: wth at May 21, 2021 01:15 PM (v0R5T)

285 @267

Wasn't remarking on the Chinese was remarking on the gullibility of the guy in the article that had his nose out of joint over China's "lack of candor."


This level of mendacity is too much to take.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2021 01:15 PM (zJvA6)

286 I mean, that also sucks but it's still better than the original.

I think they're pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:15 PM (KZzsI)

287 Greenland Uber Alles

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:15 PM (iTXRQ)

288 Gotta love that CNN bit: "I asked a Chinese state scientist in the dictatorial communist Chinese government was to blame for Wuhan Flu and shockingly he said no"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)
++++
It runs in the family. Remember when Ted Turner was their boss and he went on a state visit to North Korea and came back talking about North Korea - in the party quarters of Pyongyang - seemed pretty much alright and the only thing he noticed was that more people rode bicycles than drove cars?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:15 PM (Jsjd7)

289 So, I'm thinking that quite the sum of people who Rorty would consider "reasonable" thought the Russians won the election for Trump. So that's truth_Rorty.

Liberalism has shown itself to be too free-flowing to maintain the stricture that "reasonableness" would entail. Hence, you can barbeque that ass until the Seventh Sunday, it's never going to be brisket.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:15 PM (cI7Oj)

290 Journalist have to be able to present the story in such a way as to be believable by the most people, too.

Posted by: A Professional Journalist at May 21, 2021 01:15 PM (Tnijr)

291 The fucking Chinese are still reporting a grand total of 4600 deaths since the Plandemic began.

That's only the ones they sealed into their apartment tombs.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:16 PM (jvt6t)

292 "The truth is , we just don't know" he summed up.


WTF? Sick of hearing "We don't know" and using that to create more fear. Average homeless person could tell me the same thing as this vaunted expert.
=====

That's what has pissed me off throughout all this.

"There's just so much we don't know..."

But we do know "asymtomatic spread!!!11! reeeeee!" and "cytokine storm!!!!11! reeee! Just by walking past someone in a grocery store," "six feet apart!!11!! reeeeee!" etc etc ad nauseum.

But there's so much that we just don't know.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 21, 2021 01:16 PM (IytoW)

293 Would be a very cold assignment though, to be on that base (not even sure it is still active, I think so)


Thule is still there. My dad engineered the ice tunnel.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 21, 2021 01:16 PM (ySQBZ)

294 "Black Lives Matter! Fry crackers in batter!"
I mean, that also sucks but it's still better than the original.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (

Wouldn't cracker fried in batter splatter?

Posted by: Miklos, early shift at the Waffle House at May 21, 2021 01:16 PM (QzkSJ)

295 Gotta love that CNN bit: "I asked a Chinese state scientist in the dictatorial communist Chinese government was to blame for Wuhan Flu and shockingly he said no"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)
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All the police states of the world have the lowest Covid numbers.

Because police states is awesome!

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:17 PM (cI7Oj)

296 Theory:

Gore was supposed to win in 2000 by agreement between the parties, but W won Florida's voters by too much.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

I bring this up from time to time and I always get shot down for it.
I think BOTH sides cheated in Florida. The GOP knew the Dems were going to cheat, so they pulled a fast one. The Dems KNEW this by mid-afternoon, which is why they premptively began screaming about Butterfly Ballots and old Jewish ladies voting for Pat Buchanan by mistake.....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 01:17 PM (HrMC1)

297 I'm not sure why Proud Moderate wants to reinforce our point for us, but okay. Thanks.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 12:34 PM (XTk1T)

Stupid fag thinks Scientific American is a reliable source. Heh.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2021 01:17 PM (lob/Y)

298 Thule is still there. My dad engineered the ice tunnel.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 21, 2021 01:16 PM (ySQBZ)
++++
I hate to break it to you, I wasn't "engineered." I was born.

Posted by: Jill Biden at May 21, 2021 01:17 PM (Jsjd7)

299 >Wouldn't cracker fried in batter splatter?


we can bake it back better

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:17 PM (iTXRQ)

300 Looks like Krogers dropped the tard rag mandate "for fully vaccinated people" at least here in CO.

Just went to King Soopers and was so pleasantly surprised to see that. And I'd say about 30% of the customers and even - this really surprised me - a slightly less percentage of employees, maybe 20% but that still seemed high for employees.

Good to see. Nobody's asking to see your papers so I whipped off the tard rag and shopped free-faced for the first time in ages. Nice!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2021 01:17 PM (Bmy3R)

301 Man, am I going to be busy digging holes for j-school grads come the revolution....
Posted by: Grave Digger at May 21, 2021 12:27 PM (7bRMQ)

You're going to be ripped.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (lob/Y)


Use a mini.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 21, 2021 01:17 PM (vEZsX)

302 What's up, Mr Road Trip?!?
Posted by: Doof

Sunday away

Posted by: Miklos, camping the week it will hit 100 at May 21, 2021 01:18 PM (QzkSJ)

303 Man, am I going to be busy digging holes for j-school grads come the revolution....
Posted by: Grave Digger


Why? Buzzards gotta eat. Same as worms.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 01:18 PM (OCTRt)

304 WTF? Sick of hearing "We don't know" and using that to create more fear. Average homeless person could tell me the same thing as this vaunted expert.
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"I don't know--to be clear!" -- Joe Biden 2021

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:18 PM (cI7Oj)

305 Police states can do anything on paper.

Just try to prove they can't!

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:19 PM (cI7Oj)

306 Even for Jake Tapper, interviewing a Communist Chinese scientist about China's perfidy is kind of hilarious.

"So, Mr Goebbels, is there any truth to this rumor that you are systematically rounding up Jews, Epileptics and others to murder in special camps?"

"Ve are doing nussink of ze kind!"

"Well there you have it, proof, straight from the source. Back to you Edward R Murrow."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:19 PM (KZzsI)

307 300 Looks like Krogers dropped the tard rag mandate "for fully vaccinated people" at least here in CO.

Went to HEB and they still require it. I had it in my hand(the mask, you pervs!)looked at it, then put it in my pocket and shopped mask free. 70% were masked, but those of us who weren't grinned bigly at each other. A couple of 'em were pretty cute.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:19 PM (jvt6t)

308 Amazon has temporarily shut down a new warehouse construction site in Connecticut after a seventh noose was found hanging over a beam, a series of incidents local police called "potential" hate crimes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 21, 2021 01:03 PM (63Dwl)


So - if you don't want something built somewhere - you know what to do.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2021 01:19 PM (ZfRYq)

309 Assume (and I'm not saying it's the case) that we obtain incontrovertible evidence that the COVID virus was made in a lab in China and escaped, even accidentally. What would we do?

I think part of the zeal to "debunk" and "discredit" comes from a horror of facing up to that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (mht8P)

ABSOLUTELT THIS.
Now apply it to other things they automatically debunk.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 01:19 PM (HrMC1)

310 I admit to being a bit surprised the royal media court hasn't yet retrospectively declared the Jan. 6th Temple Holo-supercaust Land/Sea/Air Invasion: "worse than COVID-19, as well as worse than AIDS & the white-supremacist-facilitated so-called 'Black Plague' as it was racistly known."

Perhaps it's being saved for the midterm elections

Posted by: Swamposphere at May 21, 2021 01:19 PM (6VCiI)

311 Theory: Covid was supposed to happen during Hillary's 2 terms.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2021 01:20 PM (Bmy3R)

312 Ha!
Posted by: Kayleigh McEnmiklos at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (QzkSJ)

Heh

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 01:20 PM (P/sKF)

313 Third possibility -- The CCP developed it as a bioweapon and deliberately released it as part of their plan for world domination.

Posted by: Bob at May 21, 2021 01:20 PM (pft3j)

314 Drew manages to bring the heat to these media jackwagons every day. To be fair, it doesn't affect them in the slightest because getting called on their blatant hypocrisy and bullshit doesn't affect them at all. It *might* swing a few people who are still surprised that the media is full of shit.

Posted by: physics geek at May 21, 2021 01:20 PM (huQJB)

315 Wouldn't cracker fried in batter splatter?

This slogan is in tatters

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (KZzsI)

316 This slogan is in tatters
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (KZzsI)
++++
This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: The Mad Hatter at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (Jsjd7)

317 Thinking of punching holes in a mask for places that require them.

Ma'am we require masks

I have one on

But it has holes

And?

It doesn't do anything

It never did

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (ySQBZ)

318 >Even for Jake Tapper, interviewing a Communist Chinese scientist about China's perfidy is kind of hilarious.


"Hey! I covered it, okay? geez, you guys..."

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (iTXRQ)

319 What's up, Mr Road Trip?!?
Posted by: Doof

Sunday away
Posted by: Miklos, camping the week it will hit 100 at May 21, 2021 01:18 PM (QzkSJ)



Sunday, you say? Perhaps add this to your playlist...
https://youtu.be/-pob1sW4AjY

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (mZUr4)

320 Now it's an invasion. By a couple dozen people. Who were all citizens. Non-violent citizens. Into public government buildings. An invasion.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Without guns.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (HrMC1)

321 Went to HEB and they still require it. I had it in my hand(the mask, you pervs!)looked at it, then put it in my pocket and shopped mask free. 70% were masked, but those of us who weren't grinned bigly at each other. A couple of 'em were pretty cute.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:19 PM (jvt6t)


NOVA is schizophrenic on it. Many businesses still have the "by state order you must have face covering" sign or "to enter you must have a mask" sign. Others say "follow CDC guidance" Walmart says mask recommended.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (ZfRYq)

322 Alright who fucked the pangolin?

Posted by: DaveA at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (FhXTo)

323 Just checked, China, population 1.4 billion, has fewer reported deaths than Ireland, population 4 million.


Ain't that a pip.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (zJvA6)

324 Went to HEB and they still require it. I had it in my hand(the mask, you pervs!)looked at it, then put it in my pocket and shopped mask free. 70% were masked, but those of us who weren't grinned bigly at each other. A couple of 'em were pretty cute.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:19 PM (jvt6t)

I tried seeing what was what at all the other stores on the plaza as I walked by...going by the signs.

Office Max dropped it. Looks like PetCo did too.

Whole Foods still requiring them (shocka) and this asshoe locally owned liquor store that have been mask n*azi's all along. Owner must be a total Karen.

Going to have to start adding and dropping stores I will patronize based on this.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (Bmy3R)

325 Who do you believe?
___

The USS Curtis Wilbur conducted a freedom of navigation transit close to the Paracel Islands. This is disputed territory claimed by Vietnam, Taiwan, and China. The Chinese claimed that their naval and air assets caused the USS Wilbur to depart Paracel Island waters. The US Navy stated that the ship was sailing in accordance with international law and was not chased away.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=113811

Posted by: SMH at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (EKULy)

326 Third possibility -- The CCP developed it as a bioweapon and deliberately released it as part of their plan for world domination.


And we paid for it

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (ySQBZ)

327 You're going to be ripped.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2021 01:12 PM (lob/Y)

But my back will hurt like hell....

Posted by: Grave Digger at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (7bRMQ)

328 Went to HEB and they still require it. I had it in my hand(the mask, you pervs!)looked at it, then put it in my pocket and shopped mask free. 70% were masked, but those of us who weren't grinned bigly at each other. A couple of 'em were pretty cute.
Posted by: Jak Sucio


THAT'S when you should have had it in your hand.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (OCTRt)

329
Looks like Krogers dropped the tard rag mandate "for fully vaccinated people" at least here in CO.

It's company wide. The union (UFCW) is opposed to lifting the mask mandate.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (63Dwl)

330 This slogan is in tatters
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (KZzsI)
++++
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: The Mad Hatter at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (Jsjd7)



Or maybe us??
https://youtu.be/1BjQYQ5p2Ko

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (mZUr4)

331 But...But...But..Biden ended the war in the Middle East !

Posted by: James at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (yVV7Q)

332 Looks like Hamas *has* in fact had enough, for now. Ceasefire holding.

Though there was an incident at the 11th hour - terrorists dispatched into infiltration tunnel into Israel just as ceasefire time approached .... but they were neutralized by the jooos. Ooopsie!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (OTzUX)

333 Theory: Covid was supposed to happen during Hillary's 2 terms.
Quite possible. One thing I'm fairly certain of is that everything that was supposed to happen under Her Heinous' rule got accelerated because they fucked up and didn't actively prevent PDT from winning in '016.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 01:24 PM (HaL55)

334 NOVA is schizophrenic on it. Many businesses still have the "by state order you must have face covering" sign or "to enter you must have a mask" sign. Others say "follow CDC guidance" Walmart says mask recommended.
Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (ZfRYq)
++++
Here where I am (no mandates that I am aware of), a ton of stores still have the "masks required" signs up. The only two places where someone who worked there asked me to mask up are Costco (of course - Karen central) and a shitty little overpriced record store. I've been ignoring it with impunity for a while now.

What I've noticed over the past two weeks is that I am increasingly not in the minority. Preferences are cascading.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:24 PM (Jsjd7)

335 The CCP released Covid to stop the HK riots. It was that or start shooting protestors. But shooting protestors would have cause widespread unrest and potentially destabilized the government. The virus gave convenient cover to lock everyone down. They just didn't give a shit about the rest of the world. It was self preservation of China above all else.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 21, 2021 01:24 PM (GTsVL)

336 With all the catchy, sing along phrases coming out of Antifa/BLM they should cut a record.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 21, 2021 01:24 PM (3H9h1)

337 Ran in BJs at lunch time. Heard the harpy at the door screeching, "If you're fully vaccinated, you don't have to wear a mask!"

I identified as fully vaccinated and shopped with no mask.

I felt human again.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 21, 2021 01:24 PM (IytoW)

338 This slogan is in tatters
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (KZzsI)
++++
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: The Mad Hatter at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (Jsjd7)
---
You wish.

Posted by: The King In Yellow at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (cI7Oj)

339 Or maybe us??
https://youtu.be/1BjQYQ5p2Ko
Posted by: The Rolling Stones at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (mZUr4)
++++
"Some Girls" was a spectacular album.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (Jsjd7)

340 The best science is the science that claims certain things are not true and/or impossible.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (P/sKF)

341 "Note well: Science writers are not scientists, though, as usual, Communications Majors imagine themselves to be virtual scientists just because they occasionally talk to scientists."

It's the same thing with music writers/reviewers whose main area of knowledge is "musicology," an ethnic studeez-infused intellectual sewer powered by accusations of cultural appropriation, which of course only their finely attuned non-musical ear can pick up.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (wmaYv)

342 THAT'S when you should have had it in your hand.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (OCTRt)

Those plastic veggie bags are awesome.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (jvt6t)

343 The CCP released Covid to stop the HK riots. It was that or start shooting protestors. But shooting protestors would have cause widespread unrest and potentially destabilized the government. The virus gave convenient cover to lock everyone down. They just didn't give a shit about the rest of the world. It was self preservation of China above all else.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 21, 2021 01:24 PM (GTsVL)

I rate this as plausible.

Posted by: Catherine at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (+CqU9)

344 325 Who do you believe?
___

The USS Curtis Wilbur conducted a freedom of navigation transit close to the Paracel Islands. This is disputed territory claimed by Vietnam, Taiwan, and China. The Chinese claimed that their naval and air assets caused the USS Wilbur to depart Paracel Island waters. The US Navy stated that the ship was sailing in accordance with international law and was not chased away.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=113811
Posted by: SMH at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (EKULy)

Given the current make up of the Joint Chief's and those in high command? Gonna have to punt on the question of who to believe.

Posted by: Bete at May 21, 2021 01:26 PM (Ojki1)

345 Sunday, you say? Perhaps add this to your playlist...
https://youtu.be/-pob1sW4AjY
Posted by: Doof

Done!

Köszönöm!

Posted by: Miklos, at least there is a lake at May 21, 2021 01:26 PM (QzkSJ)

346 I love all of the liberals defending politifact using the term "new
facts". Those aren't new facts, they were THE facts the whole time.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks
======
They most certainly are "new facts. " The only way they were just plain facts all along is if the Jesus People were right. Since we all know that is unpossible, then it's obvious - these facts are indeed new.

Its just Science.


Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 21, 2021 01:26 PM (PGZ5N)

347 Just checked, China, population 1.4 billion, has fewer reported deaths than Ireland, population 4 million.
........

Must be the Sriracha.

Posted by: wth at May 21, 2021 01:26 PM (v0R5T)

348 "Some Girls" was a spectacular album.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (Jsjd7)

All I know is, I'm Gonna Walk Before They Make Me Run.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:26 PM (jvt6t)

349 L I B

Posted by: klaftern at May 21, 2021 01:27 PM (r4sI4)

350 "Some Girls" was a spectacular album.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (Jsjd7)

Yeah. A grand slam with that one, and just in the nick of time.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at May 21, 2021 01:27 PM (wmaYv)

351 Cease Fire is needed because Hamas has run out of rockets....

Posted by: James at May 21, 2021 01:27 PM (yVV7Q)

352 @335

Definitely part of the total spectrum of the Plandemic.

There were many lightbulb moments for Deep Donk and CCP throughout this nightmare.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2021 01:27 PM (zJvA6)

353 @259

Trump: 2547

Obama: 873

Biden: 509

Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:27 PM (AwPyG)

354 "Note well: Science writers are not scientists, though, as usual, Communications Majors imagine themselves to be virtual scientists just because they occasionally talk to scientists."
---
It's like going to cheerleaders to understand game strategy.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:28 PM (cI7Oj)

355 All I know is, I'm Gonna Walk Before They Make Me Run.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:26 PM (jvt6t)
++++
That's advisable, because I know you'll never be their Beast of Burden.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:28 PM (Jsjd7)

356 "Some Girls" was a spectacular album.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:25 PM (Jsjd7)



But was it real?

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 01:29 PM (mZUr4)

357 What I've noticed over the past two weeks is that I am increasingly not in the minority. Preferences are cascading.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:24 PM (Jsjd7)

It was great seeing human faces again and the interaction that comes with that. First time in over a year I've shopped "naked", so to speak.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:29 PM (jvt6t)

358 This is also why they made up the Asian Hate Crime hoax.

You were not only a conspiracy theorist if you blamed China, but a white supremacist who hates Asians.

And Congress passed laws based on this.

Posted by: zmdavid at May 21, 2021 01:29 PM (xqRaG)

359 I love all of the liberals defending politifact using the term "new
facts". Those aren't new facts, they were THE facts the whole time.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks
---
They are the people who will believe that chocolate rations have increased from 25 to 20.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:29 PM (cI7Oj)

360 Saw a blurb today where Israeli intelligence thinks Hamas still has a stash of over 30,000 rockets

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:29 PM (iTXRQ)

361 ITA, Some Girls is one hell of a great album. Not a dud on it. Even the filler is killer.

Another one I have framed on the mancave wall.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2021 01:30 PM (Bmy3R)

362 Don't think the assessment is that Hamas is out of ammo. They were definitely getting low on mid- and mid-high level commanders and underground infrastructure, however.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 21, 2021 01:30 PM (OTzUX)

363 Forget about this crap. More importantly, VP Harris bought a new purse yesterday.... We need pictures..

Posted by: James at May 21, 2021 01:30 PM (yVV7Q)

364 362 Don't think the assessment is that Hamas is out of ammo. They were definitely getting low on mid- and mid-high level commanders and underground infrastructure, however.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 21, 2021 01:30 PM (OTzUX)

Promotion season!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (z5Vrg)

365 Trump: 2547

Obama: 873

Biden: 509


Highest ever popular vote total for a presidential candidate before 2020: 69,498,516

Trump total official published count: 74,222,958

Oh but Biden got over 81 million, we're told. From where nobody can quite explain but there you have it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (KZzsI)

366 I'll have to go dig up the post I saw where it compared the greater total number of counties Trump won to the total that First Historic Barry won, and Trump still lost to Biden as he won fewer counties than either.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Watching the POS Biden Adventure at May 21, 2021 01:10 PM (XTk1T)



Let's give the libs their way with eliminating the Electoral College in favor of the popular vote. Every county in America gets 1 vote - determined by its popular vote.

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (mZUr4)

367 But was it real?
Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 01:29 PM (mZUr4)
++++
Is anything?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (Jsjd7)

368 It's company wide. The union (UFCW) is opposed to lifting the mask mandate.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (63Dwl)

Interesting. From what I just saw - and it will go nowhere but up and up and up - that was a pretty high percentage of free facers already today.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (Bmy3R)

369 can someone explain 'gain of function' to me

Bob Dole can explain this to you.

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (v0R5T)

370 Remember when there was a story for like two weeks a few years back that TV's had been built for years to spy on you even when they were off or unplugged?

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (P/sKF)

371 Saw a blurb today where Israeli intelligence thinks Hamas still has a stash of over 30,000 rockets
Posted by: DB- just DB

Think we'll ever see a blurb about where they got them ?

Neither do I

Posted by: JT at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (arJlL)

372
If it isn't already, "people who are faking they're vaccinated is a threat to our democracy" will be a huge Fake News story very soon.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (12J5H)

373 If you believe any data the CCP puts out you are a fucking imbecile. End of story.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (KMdgS)

374 Cease Fire is needed because Hamas has run out of rockets....
Posted by: James at May 21, 2021 01:27 PM (yVV7Q)


They've certainly been launching them in large numbers. Kind of like Clenis depleting NATO's munitions stockpile with his fake humanitarian war against the Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (y7DUB)

375 Forget about this crap. More importantly, VP Harris bought a new purse yesterday.... We need pictures..
Posted by: James at May 21, 2021 01:30 PM (yVV7Q)



Did she wow?!?!?! I just gotta know if she wowed!

Posted by: Doof at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (mZUr4)

376 Those plastic veggie bags are awesome.
Posted by: Jak Sucio


The long ones for zucchinis or the short ones for baby carrots?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (OCTRt)

377 It's company wide. The union (UFCW) is opposed to lifting the mask mandate.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 21, 2021 01:23 PM (63Dwl)

Interesting. From what I just saw - and it will go nowhere but up and up and up - that was a pretty high percentage of free facers already today.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (Bmy3R)
++++
Why do you expect the union to reflect the preferences, positions or interests of its membership?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (Jsjd7)

378 Just heard no mask required at Costco now. (not sure if it's the "fully vaccinated" bullshit or not, but I'm still identifying.)

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (IytoW)

379 "can someone explain 'gain of function' to me"

Godzilla is gain of function

Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (MxEKc)

380 Great compilation ACE. But Tapper, etal, even given their religious "debunking " will point to some fine print sentence on their Twitter feed that says "evidence to date. . ."

He'll, it's in Tappers screen posted.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 21, 2021 01:33 PM (wcbxS)

381 377 ++++
Why do you expect the union to reflect the preferences, positions or interests of its membership?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (Jsjd7)

========

Naivete.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 21, 2021 01:33 PM (LvTSG)

382 >Don't think the assessment is that Hamas is out of ammo. They were definitely getting low on mid- and mid-high level commanders and underground infrastructure, however.


"Guess we're gonna need some more Hamas guys."
-Dwayne T. Robinson

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 21, 2021 01:33 PM (iTXRQ)

383 @365

Not to mention that the two totals, added together, mean that more than 100 percent of registered voters in the entire country voted.

It was massive fraud, and very obvious.

Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:33 PM (AwPyG)

384 Of course this was all planned, but it was supposed to cover my activities as well. But whatever, it looks so big in their hands it's worth it.

Posted by: Bill Gates at May 21, 2021 01:33 PM (r3m4C)

385 >>"can someone explain 'gain of function' to me"


The Feather on a French Tickler.

Posted by: garrett at May 21, 2021 01:33 PM (Sonbq)

386 The long ones for zucchinis or the short ones for baby carrots?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (OCTRt)

Depends. Freezer aisle, or Office Supplies?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:33 PM (jvt6t)

387 Forget about this crap. More importantly, VP Harris bought a new purse yesterday.... We need pictures..
Posted by: James

Does it come with a free drool cup ?

Posted by: JT at May 21, 2021 01:34 PM (arJlL)

388 "Gain of function" is the candy coated way of saying "giving viruses the ability to attack humans".

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 01:34 PM (P/sKF)

389 God bless Florida.

The only reason the mask mandate is falling apart is because one state had some guts, and proved the point.

Everyone else was trying to promote the narrative.

Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:34 PM (AwPyG)

390 Depends. Freezer aisle, or Office Supplies?
Posted by: Jak Sucio



*snort

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 01:35 PM (OCTRt)

391 By the way the breakdown is even worse:

Trump won 25 states and Biden won 16. And Trump won 2496 counties to Biden's 477, showing that Trump won 84% of America and Biden won 16%.

https://tinyurl.com/4uvzwt62

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:35 PM (KZzsI)

392 If a man can identify as a mother then I can sure as fuck identify as someone who had the vaccine.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 01:35 PM (KMdgS)

393 Gain of function:

The bat cold virus could not infect human cells. Altering it so it can infect human cells is gain of function. Changing a virus so it can do something it couldn't do before.

Posted by: zmdavid at May 21, 2021 01:36 PM (xqRaG)

394 Biden: 509
Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:27 PM (AwPyG)

Neither the DNC nor the RNC has done the usual post mortem on the 2020 election because both organizations know everything was completely made up - there is nothing that can be gleaned from the results other than mass election fraud at even an insanely laughable level works just fine if enough people are afraid of the FBI, DOJ, the courts and the media.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2021 01:36 PM (5iUNf)

395 They will send the foxes to find out who robbed the henhouse

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2021 01:36 PM (Cxk7w)

396 can someone explain 'gain of function' to me
---
Most of the gene-splicing has been deleterious. It destroys a common function of that species.

So GOF is a general term of genetic engineers trying not simply to screw stuff up, and thus demonstrate "understanding" of a genetic feature.

In particular, Fauci's people wanted to get rich with a "Cure for the Common Cold" (so "common" it's an uncountable variations of coronavirus"), which they could then sell to Big Pharma.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:36 PM (cI7Oj)

397 Another one I have framed on the mancave wall.
My copy has Lucille Ball on the cover.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 01:37 PM (HaL55)

398 Traditional bellwether counties:

Trump: 18 of 19

Obama: 18 of 19

Biden: 1 of 19

Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:37 PM (AwPyG)

399 Gain of function occurs when the Viagra kicks in.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2021 01:37 PM (/MaDp)

400 It doesn't do anything

It never did
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 21, 2021 01:21 PM (ySQBZ)

I have one of the blue ones that I carefully cut apart and removed the middle layer, which is some non-woven filter medium. I then glued the inner liner back to the blue outer cover. Looks almost perfectly stock, but I can breathe through it no problem.

And, since they allow you to wear worthless home-made fabric masks it's perfectly legal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2021 01:37 PM (lob/Y)

401 Coattails:

Biden, who "won" lost seats in the H of R

Trump, who "lost", won seats

Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:37 PM (AwPyG)

402 US Navy stated that the ship was sailing in accordance with international law and was not chased away.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=113811
Posted by: SMH at May 21, 2021 01:22 PM (EKULy)
----------------------

Army has a new supersonic drone that can fly 1500 miles. They said, now we (island name here) can bomb the Chinese on Taiwan as they attack.

Wait. Why not put the drone on Taiwan and bomb Peking?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2021 01:38 PM (W9TB4)

403 397 Another one I have framed on the mancave wall.
My copy has Lucille Ball on the cover.

My late buddy (RIP Tony!) had one of those on his wall. Mine's the censored one LOL

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2021 01:38 PM (Bmy3R)

404 Hamas has/had tens of thousands of unguided rockets and a handful of "missiles." The difference being complexity. Given who populates Hamas as foot soldiers the "simple" unguided rockets are no doubt in short supply.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 21, 2021 01:39 PM (3H9h1)

405 @394

They lost in a landslide and almost everyone but the most gullible know it.

You can see the panic; the numbers must look awful

Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:39 PM (AwPyG)

406 Rolling Stones - Far Away Eyes
https://youtu.be/VyK1bZZ7E-s

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Jsjd7)

407 I assumed this story would come out later in the summer when people were completely back to their normal lives (except for the nujtobs).

Interesting timing.

Posted by: MJ at May 21, 2021 01:40 PM (gAMkn)

408 There is no doubt Biden stole it. But when Trumps own party refuses to acknowledge the obvious, it doesnt matter what he numbers say. Which is why the GOP is a dead party walking.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 21, 2021 01:40 PM (KMdgS)

409 Deliberate or accident. I said before. A nation with a tipping aging population finds a virus that kills mostly old people. Who'd thunk that? Logan's Run.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 21, 2021 01:40 PM (wcbxS)

410 I have one of the blue ones that I carefully cut apart and removed the middle layer, which is some non-woven filter medium. I then glued the inner liner back to the blue outer cover. Looks almost perfectly stock, but I can breathe through it no problem.

And, since they allow you to wear worthless home-made fabric masks it's perfectly legal.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


I had one that had the one way "valve" on it. Took it home, took the inside liner & rubber diaphragm out of it. Voila! Homemade.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2021 01:40 PM (OCTRt)

411 Not to mention that the two totals, added together, mean that more than 100 percent of registered voters in the entire country voted.

According to the US Census, about 133 million people were registered to vote in the US, and the total votes cast for just Trump and Biden were over 155 million. However, the census might be out of date, and there could have been more registered by the time of the election. 20 million seems like a pretty big ask (especially since people voted for other candidates or didn't vote for president at all, and some didn't vote period) but its theoretically possible.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:41 PM (KZzsI)

412 Can't find Shi Zhengli (bat lady) saying it came from her lab. Has that been scrubbed?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 21, 2021 01:41 PM (aW5/6)

413 I hope nobody finds out the role I played in screwing Trump and his voters. I would probably get lynched.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at May 21, 2021 01:42 PM (r3m4C)

414 From where nobody can quite explain but there you have it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:31 PM (KZzsI)

The vast majority of that 81M came from just a dozen or so large blue counties with turn out levels well over 90% of registered voters - turnouts that have never been achieved in the history of US Presidential elections. So, why hasn't the DNC crowed about that? Why hasn't the press lovingly poured over such fantastic numbers? For the same reason a thief is smart to never return to the scene of the crime days later to recover incriminating evidence - these people are sloppy and lazy and evil, but they aren't THAT stupid.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2021 01:42 PM (5iUNf)

415 20 million seems like a pretty big ask (especially since people voted for other candidates or didn't vote for president at all, and some didn't vote period) but its theoretically possible.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:41 PM (KZzsI)
++++
20 million new voters is out on the ragged edge of probability.

Every voter casting a ballot is way out past the edge of possibility.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:42 PM (Jsjd7)

416 @411

Check out the usual percentage of registered voters who cast a vote for president, though.

Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:43 PM (AwPyG)

417 406 Rolling Stones - Far Away Eyes
https://youtu.be/VyK1bZZ7E-s

The Horde's preferred dating demographic.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:43 PM (jvt6t)

418 409 Deliberate or accident. I said before. A nation with a tipping aging population finds a virus that kills mostly old people. Who'd thunk that? Logan's Run.

Right and look at China! Millions more old folks not contributing to the collective but the ancient veneration of elders meant you couldn't just kill 'em. But a virus that targets old folks...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2021 01:43 PM (Bmy3R)

419 Admit I haven't checked, but I think the traditional post-election campaign managers' forum at the JFK School at Harvard was usually in May - can't imagine they'll have one this time.

And not mostly, or even partly, because of the weird, vile, Weimar-ish mob demonization of Trump and his supporters and by extension his campaign staff.

I've watched some of these in the past. I've know people who were involved in them.

WTF would they discuss this time? Biden's "coalition" magically did *not* include black voters in Denver or LA or Dallas, but *did* - to historic levels - in Milwaukee? Same election? Huh? And Biden's "traction" throughout WI was dramatically less even than Hillary's, meaning a resounding defeat - yet magically in 2 counties it was higher by historic margins? Huh?

Dozens of implausible historically unprecedented vote patterns litter the 2020 presidential, only some of which get attention even by "skeptics".

But hey some idiots somehow got past the buffoonish Capitol Police for a little while in the Capitol - quick, Sen. Blackburn, change your position on what happened in several states 3 months before!!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 21, 2021 01:44 PM (OTzUX)

420 The Horde's preferred dating demographic.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:43 PM (jvt6t)
++++
Far away eyes.
Thousand yard stare.

Whatever.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:44 PM (Jsjd7)

421 406 Rolling Stones - Far Away Eyes

https://youtu.be/VyK1bZZ7E-s



The Horde's preferred dating demographic.

Also, great driving instructions.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 01:44 PM (HaL55)

422 When 30% of the opposing party think their candidate cheated and that you won, it should raise some eyebrows.

Posted by: ... at May 21, 2021 01:44 PM (P/sKF)

423 378 Just heard no mask required at Costco now. (not sure if it's the "fully vaccinated" bullshit or not, but I'm still identifying.)

Except in States which still have the mask mandate like CA.. Till June 15th anyway

Posted by: It's me donna at May 21, 2021 01:44 PM (Zmnko)

424 Not to mention that the two totals, added together, mean that more than 100 percent of registered voters in the entire country voted.

It was massive fraud, and very obvious.
Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:33 PM (AwPyG)

Especially as California, one of the most populace States, had less than a 60% turnout.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2021 01:45 PM (oHd/0)

425 Just heard no mask required at Costco now. (not sure if it's the "fully vaccinated" bullshit or not, but I'm still identifying.)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 21, 2021 01:32 PM (IytoW)
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I just got back from there. Sign requiring masks is gone. I didn't wear one, but almost everyone else did except two women shoppers and one male checkout guy. I got no dirty looks though!

Also didn't wear one at Aldi and Giant. I can breathe again!

I know over 50% of people around here are vaccinated, according to the state website, but 98% seem to be still wearing their masks. Fine with me. Just leave me alone.

Posted by: bluebell at May 21, 2021 01:45 PM (wyw4S)

426
Put simply: Whether it's scientists, or journalists, or "experts" in any field - America is a society and culture built on dishonesty. The coin of the realm is lies. I have less-than-zero confidence in anything I read or hear from anyone, because the vast majority of them are cynical manipulators.

Hopefully, our institutions can work on their integrity, and in a couple of hundred years, regain their credibility.

Until then, I'ma have to put this and everything else they say in the "bullshit bucket."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 21, 2021 01:45 PM (Uh2oA)

427 ... Dozens of implausible historically unprecedented vote patterns litter the 2020 presidential, only some of which get attention even by "skeptics". ...
Posted by: rhomboid at May 21, 2021 01:44 PM (OTzUX)
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If this had been a case of financial fraud rather than election fraud, the statistical assessment alone - even if no other evidence was available - would result in the board of directors being thrown in prison.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2021 01:45 PM (Jsjd7)

428 The Horde's preferred dating demographic.
Also, great driving instructions.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 21, 2021 01:44 PM (HaL55)

We've all been there......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:45 PM (jvt6t)

429 So, why hasn't the DNC crowed about that? Why hasn't the press lovingly poured over such fantastic numbers?

Over 70% of people polled think the election was fraudulent last I saw. Again: poll so worthless objectively but tells you that even the left can't find a majority who believes the election was real.

And yeah, that's a huge tell: they'd be crowing and praising and handing out awards for how great a job they did with get out the vote and so on, were this remotely accurate and true.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:45 PM (KZzsI)

430 See, the Science used to be "settled". DNA had a bunch of random, "junk" patches which probabilistically made useful sequences more "probable" (no P-function there though).

So, geneticists looked for the really telltale genes that they could turn off and on, and it had to be a limited set--because 90% of the strand is just random "junk" DNA.

Then by poking around in genes they found that they typically destroyed genetic information. Then they realized that genes actually contain something like a "checksum" (not exactly, but "genes" have turned out to be more than a singly-located).

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:45 PM (cI7Oj)

431 I know over 50% of people around here are vaccinated, according to the state website, but 98% seem to be still wearing their masks. Fine with me. Just leave me alone.
Posted by: bluebell at May 21, 2021 01:45 PM (wyw4S)

Same here, Bluebell! Of course our county is lagging behind the state because us ignorant rednecks need more time to "learn about" the vaccine.

Posted by: Jordan61-ONT riffraff at May 21, 2021 01:46 PM (ncE1D)

432 @414

I think something like 26 coutnies in Michigan had more votes than registered voters--some by 200 or 300 percent.

It was pretty obvious that they weren't ready for the scale of the landslide, and the funky programming of the machines wasn't going to be enough.

Think about it: the crucial states all shut down for a few days, and during that time lost chain of custody of the ballots. All eight states

Posted by: artemis at May 21, 2021 01:46 PM (AwPyG)

433 When 30% of the opposing party think their candidate cheated and that you won, it should raise some eyebrows.

"I SEE NOTHINK!!!!"
--Pence, Supreme Court, Lower Courts, "investigative" journalists, Senate, GOPe pundits

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:47 PM (KZzsI)

434 Nood Karens.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 21, 2021 01:47 PM (jvt6t)

435 OT, but this is Covid era insanity in a nutshell...

In FL and at theme parks...kids picked up the "Florida" or "cruise ship" crud. One of the kids is even vax'ed.

Since 2 only had it 24 hours, we kept them home from seeing spouse's sister today, but she was still happy to see her bro (they are both vax'ed).

So, we're supposed to see my family (1 bro, 2 sis) on Sat/Sun, but both dates already canceled by my NON-vax'd bro b/c they worry about catching anything. Hello, then get vax'ed.

So, I don't come down to FL every day, and I'm the immunocompromised one, and 2 of the kids already better within 24 hours, respectively, but we're gonna miss my family and it was decided ALREADY, not Sunday.

Now, time to make new weekend vacation plans, since I'm betting all my kids will be better tomorrow (and they'll be ready to go somewhere)...and FL theme parks are the land of 1000 viruses, just not Covid. We've been all over my area and vacay'd last year in Williamsburg, VA, and have not been sick since pre-Covid...til we were in FL...

Posted by: Nova local at May 21, 2021 01:48 PM (Lka26)

436 Same here, Bluebell! Of course our county is lagging behind the state because us ignorant rednecks need more time to "learn about" the vaccine.
Posted by: Jordan61-ONT riffraff at May 21, 2021 01:46 PM (ncE1D)
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Are you serious? They're delaying so people can "learn about the vaccine?" Just how do they think they are going to reach these mythical people who must be living in a cave or under a rock and have no way to communicate with the outside world?

I think the translation is "oh crap, these people don't want the vaccine and we have all this excess laying around."

Posted by: bluebell at May 21, 2021 01:49 PM (wyw4S)

437 Means by Necessary Any
Some assembly required....


Posted by: wytshus at May 21, 2021 01:49 PM (Edz8r)

438 354 "Note well: Science writers are not scientists, though, as usual, Communications Majors imagine themselves to be virtual scientists just because they occasionally talk to scientists."
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It's like going to cheerleaders to understand game strategy.
Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:28 PM (cI7Oj)
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https://babylonbee.com/news/white-house-press
-corps-replaced-with-team-of-cheerleaders

Posted by: zmdavid at May 21, 2021 01:50 PM (xqRaG)

439 Tight and limited points of view are usually the ones that can most quickly convince themselves that they are the best point of view. The more elaborate your view, the more open your view is to "unknowns". The more input you need and allow, thus the more you think you need to hear from other quarters.

People are throwing out information because their filters have told them that the people most receptive to this type of information are the "wrong type of people" (again something that a quickly closing paradigm can "easily decide").

We are seeing an amplified state of what Alan Bloom first observed in the Closing of the American Mind.

Societies don't just contain the most brilliant of intellects, they also contain the dumbest ones too. So, it's important to be able to identity the less sharp, and they must be held into place by conformity and viewpoint policing.

This forms in the greater effect of socialization (what I call) a "taboo society" which has at least the same effect as the dreaded "theocracy" which is a historic example of a taboo society. We're seeing the advent of a taboo society.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2021 01:53 PM (cI7Oj)

440 Forget about this crap. More importantly, VP Harris bought a new purse yesterday.... We need pictures..

Posted by: James at May 21, 2021 01:30 PM (yVV7Q)

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BREAKING: Dr. Jill Biden WOWS World With Kamala's Puss ... er, Purse!

Posted by: ShainS at May 21, 2021 01:53 PM (c3dw6)

441 Are you serious? They're delaying so people can "learn about the vaccine?" Just how do they think they are going to reach these mythical people who must be living in a cave or under a rock and have no way to communicate with the outside world?

I think the translation is "oh crap, these people don't want the vaccine and we have all this excess laying around."
Posted by: bluebell at May 21, 2021 01:49 PM (wyw4S)


They're not delaying, they're just saying that our side of the state isn't keeping up with the vaccination rate like the Seattle side of the state because we are stupid over here.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 21, 2021 01:53 PM (Ez6QX)

442 This headline. Hmmm...
"Suspect Arrested In Manhattan Antiemetic Attacks"

Posted by: Journalism Sucks! at May 21, 2021 01:53 PM (Tnijr)

443 Do I file this under 'Covid Information, 'Covid dis-information', Covid did-dis-information', or some other permutation of the words 'Covid' and 'information'?

Posted by: Dr. Mongo at May 21, 2021 02:06 PM (FJoyS)

444 Well, looks like amateur pro-trump "auditors" in Arizona completely contaminated the voting machines. Morons.

Posted by: Syd at May 21, 2021 02:17 PM (yXdD7)

445 This headline. Hmmm...
"Suspect Arrested In Manhattan Antiemetic Attacks"

Posted by: Journalism Sucks! at May 21, 2021 01:53 PM


*facepalm*

Headlines like this function as emetics.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 21, 2021 02:19 PM (m+jkK)

446 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2021 01:41 PM (KZzsI)

And at least a few % of those recorded 133 mil either died, fell into comas/senescence, fled the country, or just didn't care enough to bother voting in November.

I agree-- even assuming 98-plus percent turnout of those reg'd voters, a further splurge of 22-plus million magical ballots has to be a joke on its face.

Posted by: Swamposphere at May 21, 2021 04:21 PM (l4vYO)

447 Posted by: Swamposphere at May 21, 2021 12:58 PM (6VCiI)
"The virus could have been gain-of-functioned anywhere in the world." Sure but the outbreak was in Wuhan, about a stones throw from the Virus institute. If the outbreak had been across the street from the U.S. Army biomedical research center, I would be suspicious of that.

"If somebody wanted to frame someone in local gov't or at the Wuhan Institute of Pandemic Tech then this would be a great way to goose that along."

Now who is believing in Tom Clancy stories?

Your take is a goof ball one that it was intentionally released to frame China or Wuhan? Okay - then why is China covering up anything to do with the Wuhan institute? they are the victims in this scenario - why wouldn't they be trying to prove their innocence, rather than destroying evidence?

If someone frames me for murder, if I get out of jail, I don't destroy the records showing I was away when the murder happened, I publicize them.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 21, 2021 05:41 PM (Szvj6)

448 "If you're vaccinated -- what the fuck do you care what other people do?
This isn't about "health or safety."
This is what it's always about: Control by socialist sociopaths."

Ace, you're right this is about socialist sociopaths, but this particular talking point is a trap. They're using it as rhetorical judo to dissociate themselves from 20+ years of karens screaming about regular childhood vaccinations who used the exact same point.

In those cases, it *does* matter what other people do, because the vaccination effort requires a certain % of participation in order to be be effective due to the decay of efficacy over time for individuals.

For covid - it doesn't really matter because the vaccines are shit. But you're pissing into a couple of decades of wind on account of efforts to educate people, probably without realizing it because - like most sane people - you probably didn't pay much attention to karens screaming about little bobby getting autism from his MMR shot.

Posted by: somedood at May 21, 2021 05:46 PM (9hbbS)

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