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Tucker Carlson: "Why Isn't There A Criminal Investigation Into Tony Fauci's Role in This Pandemic?"

Good report from Carlson, reported by Breitbart.

Grammie Winger asked a good question in the last thread: Why are people making these deadly Frankenviruses at all?

The answer is -- supposedly! -- that if scientists can create possible future mutated forms of virus, we'll have a head start in vaccinating against them/curing them if/when they do arise.

This seems absurd to me, given that viruses are very sloppy reproducers are mutate at the drop of a hat, so it seems we could never predict what form a future mutation would take.

But maybe they mean we'll just glean vague "insights" from this gene splicing of new plagues?

I don't know. But that's the supposed rationale for this extraordinarily dangerous work, which almost surely resulted in the covid pandemic which locked down the world for coming up on two years and killed 3,000,000.

Fauci's determination to rule out the lab-leak hypothesis is deliberately withholding from the public absolutely critical information: If we are to evaluate the costs and benefits of making new viruses to study them and cure future viruses, we have to know how often these invented frankenviruses escape the lab and kill people. And what the monetary costs of such outbreaks are.

We need to know, bluntly, how many people we're killing or will kill via inevitable outbreaks of our artificial viruses versus how many people will die if we don't make these frankenviruses.

We need to know this to have any kind of an informed view of the matter.

But Fauci will absolutely not concede that it is likely or even possible that the Wuhan Institute of Virology, whose Dr. Shi specialized in experimenting in bat viruses to make them infect humans, was involved in spreading a bat virus which could infect humans in Wuhan, blocks away from the Wuhan Institute.

He's denying us an honest appraisal of the risks and costs of his demented drive to create new plagues.

Carlson's indictment of Fauci is very persuasive:


Millions of people have died of COVID-19. So it's not a matter of score-settling or blame assignment to figure out where it came from. If you want to prevent the next global pandemic, you have to figure out how this one started.

And so the World Health Organization said it would get to the bottom of it. The World Health Organization, of course, is beholden to China, and so it tried to hide the basic facts of the origins of this pandemic. And to hide those facts, WHO appointed none other than Peter Daszak as the only America-based representative on the investigative team looking into where the virus came from.

In what turned out to be a sham report, that team concluded that it is quote, "extremely unlikely" that the virus came from the Wuhan lab. Again, that's not true.

The WHO's investigation in the origins of the virus was fraudulent and that matters to public health globally. But one thing you'll notice is that Tony Fauci did not say that. Why? Because once again, he is implicated in it personally. The gain-of-function research that Peter Daszak was bragging about in the video we just showed you had in fact, been banned explicitly by the U.S. government.

There was a federal moratorium on the funding of exactly the kind of gain-of-function experiments that went on at the Wuhan lab due to disastrous effects. So why didn’t the U.S. government halt its funding of the lab in Wuhan? That is a central question and Nicholas Wade, to his great credit, looked into it. And here's what he found, quote, "Someone wrote a loophole into the moratorium. The moratorium specifically barred funding of any gain-of-function research that increased the pathogenicity of the flu, MERS or SARS viruses. But then a footnote on page two of the moratorium document states that quote, 'an exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the U.S. government funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security.'"

And that's exactly the loophole that was exploited. Who signed off on this? Tony Fauci, possibly, along with Francis Collins, the Director of the NIH invoked that special exemption in order to keep funding the Wuhan lab and the deadly experiments that were going on there, the experiments that clearly went so wrong.

According to Richard Ebright quote, "Unfortunately, the NIAID Director (that would be Fauci) and the NIH Director exploited this loophole to issue exemptions to projects subject to pause, preposterously asserting that the exempted research was, quote, 'urgently necessary to protect public health or national security and thereby nullifying the pause.'"

This wouldn’t have happened if Tony Fauci didn't allow it to happen. That is clear.

It’s an amazing story. It is a shocking story.

In a functional country, there would be a criminal investigation currently underway into Tony Fauci's role in the COVID pandemic that has killed millions and halted our country and changed it forever. So why isn't there a criminal investigation into Tony Fauci's role in this pandemic?

Because we're not a functional country, obviously.

Carlson's report notes another important fact: Viruses mutate, but, as in any evolutionary process, it takes many thousands of cycles of evolution to turn one thing into another.

Now, viruses mutate and replicate very quickly, but there should still be exemplars of various transitional forms in any virus' chain of mutation.

A Harvard biologist concluded that Covid-19 was artificially made for a simple reason: the virus did not show the signs of an incremental evolution over trillions of reproductions.

Rather, it seems to have sprung into being fully-formed, Athena-like, and without prior transitional states.

In other words, it seems to have not evolved but to have been made by an "intelligent designer," if you will -- not God, in this case, but a scientist simply attaching a protein spike known to infect humans onto the genome of a bat virus.

She determined this in the very beginning of the outbreak.

This is obviously extremely compelling evidence that the virus did not mutate naturally over trillions of replications, but was simply made by genetic splicing.

But Fauci and his Media Praetorians say that this is a discredited, debunked conspiracy theory, and if you can't trust the zero hours of science training of our entire media, what can you trust?

Posted by: Ace at 05:15 PM




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Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 11, 2021 04:15 PM (H5knJ)

2 Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2021 04:15 PM (lmikk)

3
Fausti

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 04:15 PM (RbGzi)

4 Knew another was coming

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 04:16 PM (Cxk7w)

5 Because we don't live in America anymore.

Posted by: Curly Bill Brocious at May 11, 2021 04:16 PM (jvt6t)

6 The answer is -- supposedly! -- that if scientists can create possible future mutated forms of virus, we'll have a head start in vaccinating against them/curing them if/when they do arise.

Sweet. Let's make Supercancer. And SuperAIDS. And Superebola. You know, for the children.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 11, 2021 04:16 PM (H5knJ)

7 Disinformationist Insurrectionists!

Posted by: Democrazi Uniparty at May 11, 2021 04:16 PM (5RTdG)

8

A Harvard biologist concluded that Covid-19 was artificially made for a
simple reason: the virus did not show the signs of an incremental
evolution over trillions of reproductions.

Rather, it seems to have sprung into being fully-formed and without prior transitional states.





If true, this alone proves beyond a reasonable doubt the virus was engineered in a lab.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 11, 2021 04:17 PM (dDc9Z)

9 Next up, autonomous armed Boston Dynamics drones. What's the worst that could happen?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 11, 2021 04:17 PM (ifmtJ)

10 Personally thing they want the virus key for themselves not to save humanity.

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 04:17 PM (Cxk7w)

11 Off Cowboy sock.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 11, 2021 04:18 PM (jvt6t)

12 The NIH under Fauci funded and guided a CCP lab that worked on bioweapons. Lots of us knew that last year.

Now, here's the fun part: you know that spike protein that's in the CCP lung flu injections? The spike protein that some are finding to be really dangerous now? Pfizer got that from China. They isolated it.

Think about it.

Posted by: shibumi at May 11, 2021 04:18 PM (Z/QB3)

13 I'm sure Merrick Garland will give this a high priority.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 11, 2021 04:18 PM (y7DUB)

14 shoot I got willowed but here was my comment:

did anyone mention the recent study that despite looking at animals ALL OVER China they were unable to find any SARS II virus in any of them?

I mean I think that's pertinent.

it clearly wasn't a naturally occurring virus that passed from animal to human. if it were we'd have found the animal by now.

it was engineered. I figured that right away b/c the Very Smart people I knew in medicine were chill to start, but after about a month of poo poo-ing my concerns suddenly did a complete 180. they got the word that it was man made then, I think.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 11, 2021 04:18 PM (j9HX3)

15 ALSO I agree with Grammie. there is NO REASON to be monkeying around with viruses. NONE.

there's no good reason to do it. only evil ones.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 11, 2021 04:19 PM (j9HX3)

16 The Roadrunner bought all those ACME Anvils for W.E.C. so he/she could practice getting out of the way.

Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2021 04:19 PM (RuIsu)

17 "Why Isn't There A Criminal Investigation Into Tony Fauci's Role in This Pandemic?"

China does not desire there to be any investigation.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 11, 2021 04:19 PM (KZzsI)

18 The wheels are coming off this administration even earlier than I expected.

Interesting times.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 11, 2021 04:19 PM (jvt6t)

19 So I wouldn't leave out the nefarious notion they want population control.

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 04:19 PM (Cxk7w)

20 what we need are Fauci's real email accounts.

not the gov one, the ones he uses for "business"

Posted by: Gonna need an autist at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (sKIZ3)

21 "This seems absurd to me, given that viruses are very sloppy reproducers are mutate at the drop of a hat, so it seems we could never predict what form a future mutation would take."

As I understand it our yearly flu vaccine is a series of guesses at what this year's variants will be. So maybe not that implausible. I think you only need to get close at any rate.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (z5Vrg)

22 Okay here's my conspiracy theory sundae:
CIA was secretly involved in making sure Wuhan was doing Dr Evil experiments on gain-of-function, and had intelligence and/or surveillance on the lab: effectively outsourcing our own bioweapons program while keeping tabs on what our adversaries were doing.

Posted by: Zek at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (5RTdG)

23 This is an old story (months). Maybe Tucker can have a similar revelation about putting people in jail who stole the election.

Posted by: Valiant at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (3MiF8)

24 Fauci has the protection of the Deep State... Untouchable

Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (Zmnko)

25 What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Hillary! at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (DMUuz)

26 Rather, it seems to have sprung into being fully-formed and without prior transitional states.


===

It's the Venus of viruses !

-Dr. Fauci

Posted by: runner at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (V13WU)

27 Well, we always knew these people were killers.

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (0OP+5)

28 Tucker is preaching to the choir. Or shouting into the wind, if you prefer.

Not a tale told by an idiot, but one full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Because nothing is what will happen, other than ever-more-draconian lockdowns, ever-more-restrictive rules to force vaccination and the creation of a handy tool for the Ruling Class to stamp out congregationing and dissent whenever the serfs get too sporty.

It's a pity my faith is practically non-existent, because I would like to think this malignant dwarf would spend eternity as Satan's jerk sock. But, like Scankles, Snack Barr, St Comey and thousands of other traitors, he will die safely and securely in bed, with not even his hair mussed.

A rotten, hollowed-out man emblematic of a rotten, hollowed-out country.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 11, 2021 04:21 PM (2JVJo)

29 The NIH under Fauci funded and guided a CCP lab that worked on bioweapons. Lots of us knew that last year.

Now, here's the fun part: you know that spike protein that's in the CCP lung flu injections? The spike protein that some are finding to be really dangerous now? Pfizer got that from China. They isolated it.

Think about it.
==
Yup.

Pharma is balls deep into china. And the only question is whether or not China is willing or not.

Posted by: no coincidences at May 11, 2021 04:21 PM (j37DN)

30 You can remember where a lot of bodies are buried when you're around for 53 years. Right, doc?

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at May 11, 2021 04:22 PM (10eMQ)

31 The last time someone favored by the Democrat-Media Complex was officially found to have violated laws or major Federal rules and regulations, and was given more than a slap on the wrist for it, was...?

Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 04:22 PM (AMIL/)

32 I'm thinking guillotines, lamp posts and helicopters are in order, but what do I know?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 11, 2021 04:22 PM (jvt6t)

33 Tucker Carlson didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 11, 2021 04:22 PM (kTF2Z)

34 It is almost as if someone read the first 5 chapters of "The Stand" by Stephen King and thought "What a Great Idea."

Posted by: Picric at May 11, 2021 04:22 PM (3QnyK)

35 I've never understood Fauciworship. At best he's just another bureaucrat promoted beyond his level of competence.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2021 04:22 PM (cSyAR)

36 This Administration DOJ will never look into Fauci

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 04:22 PM (Cxk7w)

37 Fauci has the protection of the Deep State... Untouchable
==
True. I am the highest paid Federal employee. Not for the money -- I make quite a bit more on the side. Its a badge. Its a sign that I am untouchable.

Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 11, 2021 04:23 PM (j37DN)

38
What's that dong that goes "looks like we made it," by that fanook?

That's the song the chinese shits are singing right now

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 04:23 PM (RbGzi)

39 Is Tucker Carlson the only guy on FOX that is breaking any real news over there? Chris Wallace et al in the 'news' division are simply the Praetorian Guard for the FICUS. Gutfeld is the Court Jester, and Ingraham is...what, exactly. Hannity - well, enough said about him.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2021 04:23 PM (hKTv8)

40 I dunno, I think I'm going to go for the easier explanation--that this was a conspiracy to commit mass murder for the express purpose of ushering in world wide communion.

See: Build back better.

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:23 PM (AwPyG)

41 communism.

communion is too nice

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:24 PM (AwPyG)

42 This was suppose to be a helpful pandemic...

Only a handful of children died. Healthy men of military age and women of breeding age were relatively untouched. Even middle age producers fared well.

Who died? The weak, the old, the expensive.

If you led a country with 1.5 billion people, coming up with a virus like this would be a pretty good idea. How it migrated from a lab and over to your leading competitor is a mystery. Why would you want to help them eliminate their most costly, unproductive sector of the population?

Of course, it could have been the geniuses that run our CIA who engineered the transfer of the virus here, but we'll never know.

Posted by: jwest at May 11, 2021 04:24 PM (/BlEx)

43 Fraudchi has an infectious laugh.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 11, 2021 04:24 PM (WmGrA)

44 Tucker Carlson didn't kill himself.

Interesting you say that because last night as I was watching I kept thinking.. someones gonna disappear this guy.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2021 04:24 PM (nxdel)

45 We need to put a stop to this shit.. This kind of research is what Sci Fi end-of-mankind plots are built off of..
As Barney Fife would say.. You gotta nip it.. nip it in the bud!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 11, 2021 04:24 PM (CjFDo)

46 The Eco Freaks deliberately invested in a designer virus, to see just how much havoc they could create, as a trial run toward creating a much more deadly virus aimed at eliminating a good portion of human beings on this planet.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 04:25 PM (2SdPm)

47 As I understand it our yearly flu vaccine is a series of guesses at what this year's variants will be. So maybe not that implausible. I think you only need to get close at any rate.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (z5Vrg)


Correct. I get one because my doctor recommends them while knowing I could be exposed to another variety. That said my track record might be spotless assuming I didn't pick something up my body's immune system was otherwise effectively defensive against.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 11, 2021 04:25 PM (y7DUB)

48 Hey let he who has never stolen a national election and killed 500,000 people cast the first stone.

Posted by: Zek at May 11, 2021 04:25 PM (5RTdG)

49 Not to mention he's creepy looking, like so many of them are. I guess evil does that to you

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:25 PM (AwPyG)

50 Oh, I can answer this without Val or Jill giving me the answer:

A: Fauci has been sainted and you can't ever turn back on a saint. Unless they're Gina Carano.

Posted by: President NPC at May 11, 2021 04:25 PM (FPuSC)

51 Do people not read science fiction anymore? This is very much like a science fiction story come to horrifying life before our eyes. 90% of science fiction is a WARNING for humanity--stop before we go over the edge! Instead, the powers that be think to themselves, "Hey, that's a neat idea. Nothing could EVER go wrong." And we all pay the price for their hubris. Idiots.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 11, 2021 04:26 PM (ZIoLS)

52 35 I've never understood Fauciworship. At best he's just another bureaucrat promoted beyond his level of competence.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker



And this right here describes our Federal Government. It's full of bureaucrats who "Failed Upwards" at all departments, agencies, commissions, etc.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 11, 2021 04:26 PM (tIeQ9)

53 I believe that there are patriots out there ready to help. They just need a spark of leadership to get the ball rolling.

I believe this.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 11, 2021 04:26 PM (jvt6t)

54 @44

But when push came to shove, Tucker towed the deep state line

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:26 PM (AwPyG)

55 Notice how even though scientists were quick to recommend people go into complete lockdown, of all the biohazard safety levels, none of them include "no one is allowed to leave the building until we're sure they're not infected." Maybe if they had to stay on premises until declared safe, they'd be a bit more careful. The ISS astronauts go up in a tin can for months at a time, these people can't stay in a quarantine zone for a few weeks?

Posted by: GrapeDrink at May 11, 2021 04:27 PM (GAPhN)

56 I dunno, I think I'm going to go for the easier explanation--that this was a conspiracy to commit mass murder for the express purpose of ushering in world wide communion.
==
Well, we've kept our options open. You see this virus itself isn't so much a killer, except for the non productives. However, the vaccines do give us a vector into the vaccinated, where, with a subsequent tailored iteration of the virus, we can trigger a much more robust event and cytocine storm which would lead to mega deaths. This is something that we like to have in case we need it. Ultimately, its about control.

Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 11, 2021 04:27 PM (KUe/D)

57 Forget the Yellowstone Caldera, SMOD, alien invasion, Gorebull Enwarmening, and all the rest of that stuff. What's eventually going to destroy humanity is two bit scientists in labs creating all kinds of new frankenviruses that escape and wipe us out. At least the dinosaurs had an excuse.

Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at May 11, 2021 04:27 PM (VNmG1)

58 and Ingraham is...what, exactly.

Someone who will fuck dogs if they're high exposure enough. Maybe that's what killed Bo.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 11, 2021 04:27 PM (y7DUB)

59 The vaccine (yes I know, many of you call it the non-vaccine) was developed without gain of function research.

None of these gain of function research helped in any way to produce anything useful. They are only evil produced by out of control govt hacks.

Fausci needs to be tried for High Treason and hung by the neck if found guilty.

Posted by: Loki, looking to water the Tree of Liberty at May 11, 2021 04:27 PM (7fQjO)

60

It was interesting to see how quickly people defended China and guiltily deflected to calling these things MUH UK VARIANT

The media war is just weird t watch unfold.

No gas lines remember, at least those cocksuckers in the 70s at Time mag told us there was a MUH OIL CRISIS...we dont even get that now.

Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (NuVOb)

61 20 what we need are Fauci's real email accounts.

not the gov one, the ones he uses for "business"
Posted by: Gonna need an autist at May 11, 2021 04:20 PM (sKIZ3)

==

I can help with that!

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (FPuSC)

62 But when push came to shove, Tucker towed the deep state line
Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:26 PM (AwPyG)

True, but I don't see any real Americans backing him up either.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (jvt6t)

63 @29

Even better, Fauci has the patent on the "spike"

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (AwPyG)

64
But Fauci will absolutely not concede that it is likely or even possible that the Wuhan Institute of Virology, whose Dr. Shi specialized in experimenting in bat viruses to make them infect humans, was involved in spreading a bat virus which could infect humans in Wuhan, blocks away from the Wuhan Institute.

----

Million to one shot, doc.

Posted by: Annoying Geriatric Know-it-all with Giant Virus Stuck Up His Ass at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (Ux/Bl)

65 We've known about this shit since last year. They repressed it then, and nothing's going to come of it now.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (Mzdiz)

66 I personally know a woman that has miscarried shortly after getting the second mRNA shot. My own daughter is having catastrophic reproductive issues 2 weeks after getting the second shot.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (WmGrA)

67 46 The Eco Freaks deliberately invested in a designer virus, to see just how much havoc they could create, as a trial run toward creating a much more deadly virus aimed at eliminating a good portion of human beings on this planet.

Prove me wrong.
Posted by: blake



"The 12 Monkeys" as an instructional movie? Sure, why not, what the hell.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 11, 2021 04:29 PM (tIeQ9)

68 When China takes over the US, they won't want a bunch of doddering old retirees around. It would be very helpful if everybody over 45 just vaporized.

Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2021 04:29 PM (RuIsu)

69 Tucker Carlson didn't kill himself.

Interesting you say that because last night as I was watching I kept thinking.. someones gonna disappear this guy.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2021 04:24 PM (nxdel)


I'm surprised fox hasn't let him go, I guess even they like the money a bit more than making their masters happy. If they really wanted to disappear him, they'd put him on CNN.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at May 11, 2021 04:29 PM (wAnMi)

70 Mentioned a few times a Chiropractor ( finally saw what medical office it was on today) has had a sign for months outside its building
We Love You Dr Ben

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 04:29 PM (Cxk7w)

71 I personally know a woman that has miscarried shortly after getting the second mRNA shot. My own daughter is having catastrophic reproductive issues 2 weeks after getting the second shot.
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (WmGrA)
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There was a video linked on the sidebar a while back wherein a doctor discussed the fact it appeared the vaccine has an adverse reaction, as in spontaneous abortion, on pregnant women.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 04:30 PM (2SdPm)

72 Dr Faci is just perfect to fit that role.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 11, 2021 04:30 PM (o89XP)

73 What this horrifying, cruel, deadly, unbelievably contagious end-of-the-world man-made disease turned out to be was just another annual flu season.

Unreasonable, over-the-top panic and fear made it deadly.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 11, 2021 04:30 PM (Fs5vw)

74 Looks like communism is getting a head start on their body count here in the 21st Century. They definitely don't think the 100 million or so dead bodies from the 20th century was enough, so here's yet another way to kill people.
WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 11, 2021 04:31 PM (HaL55)

75 @56

You may not be wrong. There's a theory going around Gab that this virus was to stampede everyone into getting the vaccine, which would make it difficult to recover from your next usual flu or cold.

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:31 PM (AwPyG)

76 The ISS astronauts go up in a tin can for months at a time, these people can't stay in a quarantine zone for a few weeks?
Posted by: GrapeDrink at May 11, 2021 04:27 PM (GAPhN)

lol "space"

Posted by: PurpleDrank at May 11, 2021 04:31 PM (YReMH)

77 68 When China takes over the US, they won't want a bunch of doddering old retirees around. It would be very helpful if everybody over 45 just vaporized.
Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2021 04:29 PM (RuIsu)

Forget China. It was Andrew Cuomo and Gretchen Whitmer who didn't want a bunch of doddering old medical dollar vacuums laying around the nursing homes sucking up the state's money.

Posted by: jwest at May 11, 2021 04:31 PM (/BlEx)

78 I've had discussions about LIVs, essentially how many trillions of dollars they are willing to spend on COVID lockdowns, and the answer I've gotten consistently is ALL OF THE MONEY "WE" HAVE.

Obviously we haven't been able to have reasonable discussions of risk/reward for a long time in this country but it is now officially absurd.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 11, 2021 04:32 PM (DpkTQ)

79 Of course, it could have been the geniuses that run our CIA who engineered the transfer of the virus here, but we'll never know.
==
Well, you could follow the money. Whose selling vaccines? Whose brother has a seat on a board of a company that sells masks? China's a patsy. We had them build a virus that we'd knew they'd leak because they can't help it. They built it to spec and we now get to sell vax. Yea - us! Because when you're a sociopath, you gotta sociopath.

Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 11, 2021 04:32 PM (79Rsc)

80 has had a sign for months outside its building

Tik Tok nurses

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 11, 2021 04:32 PM (KZzsI)

81 But Fauci will absolutely not concede that it is likely or even possible that the Wuhan Institute of Virology, whose Dr. Shi specialized in experimenting in bat viruses to make them infect humans, was involved in spreading a bat virus which could infect humans in Wuhan, blocks away from the Wuhan Institute.
----
Million to one shot, doc.
Posted by: Annoying Geriatric Know-it-all with Giant Virus Stuck Up His Ass

My spit-ballin' guess is that he has a file cabinet somewhere with progress reports from the Wuhan Lab on gain of function research. Maybe he moved it to his house, and out of a Federal building where he works.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at May 11, 2021 04:32 PM (vcOmj)

82 Fauci deserves to hang. or his head needs a pike. As a warning.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at May 11, 2021 04:32 PM (0OmEj)

83 I personally know a woman that has miscarried
shortly after getting the second mRNA shot. My own daughter is having
catastrophic reproductive issues 2 weeks after getting the second shot.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 11, 2021 04:28 PM (WmGrA)

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There was a video linked on the sidebar a while back wherein a
doctor discussed the fact it appeared the vaccine has an adverse
reaction, as in spontaneous abortion, on pregnant women.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 04:30 PM

Not wanting to fling $hit, but why would a pregnant woman want to get an experimental vaccine that has not been tested long term?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 11, 2021 04:33 PM (JUOKG)

84 @73

But don't forget it was an "emergency" that allowed state governors to assert "emergency" powers over how votes can be cast.

Even though the USSC said even the civil war didn't allow a state to suspend normal voting procedures in a Presidential election.

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:33 PM (AwPyG)

85 Why? Because then people will beg you to vaccinate them. If it just so happens to cause a little genetic re-engineering, well, so be it.

Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2021 04:33 PM (ELgVT)

86 Any person who becomes a professional scientific researcher likely has delusions of grandeur -- they are going to be the next famous scientist that kids read about in their high school science books.

We now, for the first time ever, have the ability to manipulate DNA, have the ability to change evolution, have the ability, to, well, play god. (sort of. Still in the early stages of it, obviously.)

Non scientists are VERY uncomfortable (for obvious reasons) with this being done on humans or primates or most other animals. That pisses off scientists, because they want to discover new break throughs that could change humans and the world for the better. So they find other ways of studying the same thing, of learning the essentials, until people "come around" to allowing them to use gene editing on humans. Viruses are one of those things they can use as a proxy. Is any of the data they get from it particularly useful as far as the virus goes? Probably not. As ace mentioned, viruses mutate in very unpredictable and sloppy ways in nature. But could this be useful for future human gene editing? Could be.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:33 PM (UPoLF)

87 Not wanting to fling $hit, but why would a pregnant woman want to get an experimental vaccine that has not been tested long term?
Posted by: Mister Scott

Because her "friends" did?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 04:33 PM (OCTRt)

88 Trumps biggest failure was not firing this guy (along with the rest of the bureaucracy in DC, spare me the 'it's illegal to do that' bullshit).

Posted by: T-Rex at May 11, 2021 04:33 PM (bhPL1)

89 Every talking head on MegaCorp GloboHomo TV and Radio is a gatekeeper. There are zero exceptions to this rule. Same for newspapers and digital media.

Posted by: PurpleDrank at May 11, 2021 04:34 PM (YReMH)

90 Not wanting to fling $hit, but why would a pregnant woman want to get an experimental vaccine that has not been tested long term?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 11, 2021 04:33 PM (JUOKG)
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DES and Thalidomide are but long forgotten memories, I guess.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 04:34 PM (2SdPm)

91 Tucker Carlson: "Why Isn't There A Criminal Investigation Into Tony Fauci's Role in This Pandemic?"

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Because everything he did worked in the Swamp's favor. Nobody important died.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 11, 2021 04:34 PM (RMGKK)

92 When China takes over the US, they won't want a bunch of doddering old retirees around. It would be very helpful if everybody over 45 just vaporized.
Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2021 04:29 PM (RuIsu)

Forget China. It was Andrew Cuomo and Gretchen Whitmer who didn't want a bunch of doddering old medical dollar vacuums laying around the nursing homes sucking up the state's money.
===
TBF, I sort of decided that 75 years is enough for anyone. And "coincidentally" that's about where they put the mortality trigger on the virus spec. Totally coincidental? Um, no.

Posted by: Zeke Emanuel at May 11, 2021 04:34 PM (j37DN)

93 I believe that there are patriots out there ready to help. They just need a spark of leadership to get the ball rolling.

I wish I could believe that.

In "leadership," I mean.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 11, 2021 04:34 PM (2JVJo)

94
Not wanting to fling $hit, but why would a pregnant woman want to get an experimental vaccine that has not been tested long term?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS)

Because angry sociopaths in our government want to hurt people.
No good OB-GYN would EVER recommend that any pregnant woman take any "experimental" substance".
It's sick. Really, really sick.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at May 11, 2021 04:34 PM (vcOmj)

95 > I personally know a woman that has miscarried shortly after getting the second mRNA shot.

I personally know a guy who got hit by a bus shortly after eating at Taco Bell.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 11, 2021 04:34 PM (JZT2F)

96 Joe Mama, yes - very sorry to hear of your daughter's troubles.

Some women are getting hit hard by the mRna, from bizarre periods through miscarriages to grouped inflammation in breast tissue.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (KmkAz)

97 When has Fauci last done any scientific research?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (cSyAR)

98 Fausci needs to be tried for High Treason and hung by the neck if found guilty.
I knew we weren't a serious country when Trump's rather milquetoast response to COVID was a travel ban and people called it rayciss and extreme.

Whether China created COVID or not they INTENTIONALLY sent it to the US and Europe. That is both an act of war and terrorism.

AQ took down the twin towers and we destroyed their allies in Afghanistan and Iraq (well for a while at least). China does more and we do...nothing.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (DpkTQ)

99 Why, indeed. SARS-COVID-2 is a WMD, by any calculation, and he oversaw efforts to fund and create it, then, by CYA, by malfeasance, or by ineptness, help prevent adequate treatments from being disseminated while he lurched from one nonsensical recommendation, to another completely contrary recommendation.

As in the last thread, he deserves crimes against humanity charges, along with bat lady and the NY guy who also tried to CYA, punishable by death by hanging.

He's a fraud and a conman.

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (KnJdm)

100 EcoHealth Alliance. More eco than health.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (cI7Oj)

101 A good friend was pro-vaccine, and then her 30 year old, healthy daughter was hospitalized for blood clots in her lungs.

I asked, "was it the vaccine?" and she stared at me blankly. Had no idea there was a possible connection.

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (AwPyG)

102 I hope Tucker Carlson has some private security protection or does concealed carry because the Deep State is the political version of Organized Crime.

Everyday I pray that Fauci would be held accountable for his actions, and of course that the eyes of his heart are opened-and "Remove this thorn, Lord from our side" (and no, I'm not suggesting that I want him bumped off).

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (k39e/)

103 I heard on Facebook and Twitter that anyone who questions Dr Fauci is a white supremacist.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 11, 2021 04:36 PM (+ekc/)

104 Nicholas Wade wrote a book a few years ago about race and genetics. So if this story starts to gain any mainstream traction look for the media to use this as a line of attack against him. I'm surprised it hasn't started yet.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2021 04:36 PM (xPl2J)

105 Now, the question is, where was Fraudci when the AIDs virus emerged?

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:36 PM (cI7Oj)

106 My spit-ballin' guess is that he has a file cabinet somewhere with progress reports from the Wuhan Lab on gain of function research. Maybe he moved it to his house, and out of a Federal building where he works.
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Oh he's got a homebrew server somewhere. Its not in his bathroom, and he's probably got better security than Hillary. Pharma's behind him.

Posted by: Gonna need an autist at May 11, 2021 04:36 PM (j37DN)

107 #BringBackMeanTweets!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 11, 2021 04:36 PM (dDc9Z)

108 Some women are getting hit hard by the mRna, from bizarre periods through miscarriages to grouped inflammation in breast tissue.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (KmkAz)

But they are the same people being clobbered by Covid...damned if you do, damned if you don't if you can't stay home for all 9 months and hibernate...

PS - And there's the explanation for the birth rate being in the dumps, even when everyone couldn't go anywhere...

Posted by: Nova local at May 11, 2021 04:36 PM (b1h2x)

109 Fauci's state funeral will be larger and longer than McCain's.


Posted by: Just Saying at May 11, 2021 04:37 PM (EBFfR)

110 Any person who becomes a professional scientific researcher likely has
delusions of grandeur -- they are going to be the next famous scientist
that kids read about in their high school science books.


We need a name for that particular mental illness. Something along the lines of the Frankenstein Syndrome. Or the Fauci Disorder.

Something snappy and that POPS! Something that people will remember for the revulsion. The grosser, the better.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 11, 2021 04:37 PM (HaL55)

111 > When China takes over the US, they won't want a bunch of doddering old retirees around.

They aren't gonna want any young people around either.

If there's one thing they don't have a shortage of, it's people.

I see that WitchMer in Michigan has shut down one of the major Great Lakes gasoline pipelines. Because this is such an awesome time to be doing that.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 11, 2021 04:37 PM (JZT2F)

112 The President worries about wearing a mask outdoors while the Mid-East burns, America runs out of gasoline, and inflation skyrockets.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 11, 2021 04:37 PM (i7Q7S)

113 I heard on Facebook and Twitter that anyone who questions Dr Fauci is a white supremacist.
Posted by: Joe XiDen


Y'all can just call me Massa then.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 04:37 PM (OCTRt)

114 And know who won't get a state funeral?


Drumpf

Posted by: Just Saying at May 11, 2021 04:38 PM (EBFfR)

115 Not wanting to fling $hit, but why would a pregnant woman want to get an experimental vaccine that has not been tested long term?

***

Because we as a nation of educated and otherwise intelligent people have deferred our knowledge and thinking skills to Sxiens Expertz With Credentials.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:38 PM (XTk1T)

116 Idk but having a genetic disease with no treatment or cure has put me on the side of crisper. Just one mutation on one gene screws my genetics hard. And 50% of my kids.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at May 11, 2021 04:38 PM (0OmEj)

117 I think you guys are attributing to malice what could easily be explained by stupidity.

Have you not noticed that our entire "elite" class is full of nepots and functioning idiots?

I really don't think they thought this far ahead. I think the scientists were pushing for as much gain of function research as possible (so they could become famous by coming up with some amazing break throughs, like possibly curing cancer in humans or something down the line), and doing everything to hide what they were doing from the stupid rubes and our dumb politicians.

It didn't occur to anyone that "oh, shit, this could be catastrophically dangerous" because only super duper smart people like them are involved, and super duper smart people like them never fuck anything up. Obviously.

And when they DID fuck up, it went in to full on panic and CYA mode.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:38 PM (UPoLF)

118 I heard on Facebook and Twitter that anyone who questions Dr Fauci is a white supremacist.
Posted by: Joe XiDen

**

Well, other than developing, discovering, and advancing pretty much everything, white people have never accomplished sh*t.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (XTk1T)

119 I've said it before, his name ought to be legally changed to "AIDS Failure Fraudci".

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (cI7Oj)

120 I took two viagra and my gain-on-function was off the charts! My consort may never walk again.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (2goRJ)

121 Traditionally we run clinic trials for years, and openly share the results before foisting new medical tech onto the whole world.

We are blind sided with fake COVID numbers - everyone WITH COVID that dies is counted as a COVID death, even though we don't treat other diseases that way.

Conversely we are told not to take the adverse vaccine data the same way...but that gets us closer to apples to apples, even if they are very flawed apples.

So 500K people with COVID died, and 3K people who took the "vaccine" died. Based on the available data the virus is about 150X more dangerous then the vaccine. Period. But since almost all COVID deaths are the elderly, there is a certain age at which the vaccine is more dangerous then the disease.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (DpkTQ)

122 I have this mental image of Fauci sneering whenever he announces some stupid restriction?
I'm probably mistaken.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (cSyAR)

123 Now, the question is, where was Fraudci when the AIDs virus emerged?
Posted by: Axeman


Baffhouses.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (OCTRt)

124 I hope Tucker Carlson has some private security protection or does
concealed carry because the Deep State is the political version of
Organized Crime.

================
He has his family stashed on an island with one bridge on/off and cameras watching. Won't matter, though; when the Democrats send Antifa after them (again), there is no place they aren't allowed to go.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (dDc9Z)

125 " ... covid pandemic which locked down the world for coming up on two years and killed 3,000,000."

Ace, Ace, Ace, just last Friday the vaunted CDC said deaths in the USA with NO comorbidities is 29,000 so far. They also said the official "death" toll includes those with up to FOUR comorbidities. As we all know they are counting those who died of anything but if they tested positive for covid flu then they are counted as covid flu deaths, and I think we all know that's a lie also, as far as them even testing those people.
Most amazing Hoax for Tyranny evah!

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (sme/E)

126 "They aren't gonna want any young people around either."
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 11, 2021 04:37 PM (JZT2F)


A big part of the plan is to get money freed up and moving. Want to see the economy go into overdrive? Drop hundreds of thousands into the laps of the young through inheritance.

Posted by: jwest at May 11, 2021 04:39 PM (/BlEx)

127 Where China screwed up is by releasing it in China. It's possible that was indeed a lab accident.

If they'd just spread it via the zillions of "Confucius Institutes" they've got entrenched in every major university in the Western Hemisphere, no one would be the wiser.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 11, 2021 04:40 PM (JZT2F)

128 This level of corruption will convince the population that every viral epidemic has been engineered. How it gets out is immaterial. As things stand I would go along with it.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 11, 2021 04:40 PM (RMGKK)

129 I'm tired of big things trying to engineer my life. Tired. Go home and Clockwork Orange your children.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 11, 2021 04:40 PM (o89XP)

130 Hey America, tired of losing yet?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 11, 2021 04:41 PM (dDc9Z)

131 I think you guys are attributing to malice what could easily be explained by stupidity.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:38 PM (UPoLF)
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Yeah, that's not me. There is such a negligence as it is considered criminal. Fraudci was told he couldn't do his experiments in the USA, so he shipped them to China, and then when he was told the government wouldn't just fund his research, he made it a matter of "national security".

There is too much intentional decision-making there.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:41 PM (cI7Oj)

132 A big part of the plan is to get money freed up and moving. Want to see the economy go into overdrive? Drop hundreds of thousands into the laps of the young through inheritance.
==
Guess who else inherits your wealth when you die . . .

Posted by: Uncle Sammykins at May 11, 2021 04:41 PM (j37DN)

133 This level of corruption will convince the population that every viral epidemic has been engineered.
Every flu virus for the last hundred years or so seems to have come out of China - yes including the "Spanish" Flu.

Even if China didn't send COVID here intentionally - and they did however it was created - we should have started a complete blockade of them decades ago.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 11, 2021 04:42 PM (DpkTQ)

134 116 Idk but having a genetic disease with no treatment or cure has put me on the side of crisper. Just one mutation on one gene screws my genetics hard. And 50% of my kids.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at May 11, 2021 04:38 PM (0OmEj)

I get that. But the simple fact is that we would be fucking with the entire human species if we start editing genes. And we can't be entirely sure what would happen if we, say, edit one gene. Could it have 100% good outcomes? Sure. Could it damn you and every one of your descendants and everyone else who had that "edit" to incubating and spreading some crazy mutation of the common cold or something to the rest of the species?

...We don't know. Hopefully not. But that's probably not something we just jump in to blindly, for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:42 PM (UPoLF)

135 I'm tired of big things trying to engineer my life. Tired. Go home and Clockwork Orange your children.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 11, 2021 04:40 PM (o89XP)
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I don't have a ceramic penis.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:42 PM (cI7Oj)

136 Ace, Ace, Ace, just last Friday the vaunted CDC said deaths in the USA with NO comorbidities is 29,000 so far. They also said the official "death" toll includes those with up to FOUR comorbidities. As we all know they are counting those who died of anything but if they tested positive for covid flu then they are counted as covid flu deaths, and I think we all know that's a lie also, as far as them even testing those people.
Most amazing Hoax for Tyranny evah!
Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit


Yeah. Those gunshot deaths and motorcycle accidents sure are from Covid.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 04:42 PM (OCTRt)

137 So it's apparently national news that a tiger is loose in Houston, but multiple east coast states being without gasoline is not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:42 PM (XTk1T)

138 Easier explanation is old people tend to be more conservative. Not to mention they have memories of communism.

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:42 PM (AwPyG)

139 There is too much intentional decision-making there.
==
Which inures to the benefit of my benefactors . . .

but its all just a coincidence! Such luck!
*grins maliciously*

Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 11, 2021 04:43 PM (j37DN)

140 Yeah, that's not me. There is such a negligence as it is considered criminal. Fraudci was told he couldn't do his experiments in the USA, so he shipped them to China, and then when he was told the government wouldn't just fund his research, he made it a matter of "national security".

There is too much intentional decision-making there.
Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:41 PM (cI7Oj)

Yeah, I completely believe he did all of that. I believe everyone in our government and institutions does shit like that so often that they don't even think about it. It's why Big Pharma does clinical drug trials in third world countries. Oops, a few hundred people died. Well, back to the drawing board!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:43 PM (UPoLF)

141 I'm starting to think that, maybe, voting harder is a losing strategy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 11, 2021 04:43 PM (dDc9Z)

142
As in the last thread, he deserves crimes against humanity charges, along with bat lady and the NY guy who also tried to CYA, punishable by death by hanging.

He's a fraud and a conman.
Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:35 PM (KnJdm)


Disagree. The only charges he's guilty of is racketeering and enabling voter fraud.

The politicians and most of the US population is responsible for the rest.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 11, 2021 04:44 PM (Fs5vw)

143 Nova local, I hear you.

We're getting stampeded into getting the mRna injections even though Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine / zpac / zinc cure CV19.

Meanwhile in Goa, India, they're giving away Ivermectin to protect their people.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 11, 2021 04:44 PM (KmkAz)

144 Not wanting to fling $hit, but why would a pregnant woman want to get an experimental vaccine that has not been tested long term?
Posted by: Mister Scott

Because her "friends" did?
Posted by: rickb223

Because every third ad on radio and TV is telling EVERYONE to get vaxxed?

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 11, 2021 04:45 PM (WmGrA)

145 Fauci, everyone in Research, Intel and world Govt leaders all knew right away it was a bio-weapon. I figured it was when nearly every Country on the planet was shutting down. What other reason was there for such a vast reaction? Otherwise, they would've handled it the same way they did with Sars, Swine Flu, etc.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at May 11, 2021 04:45 PM (cRbt7)

146 >>>Fauci's state funeral will be larger and longer than McCain's<<<
>When Fauci croaks I will place pennies on his eyes and feed him to the blue crabs.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 11, 2021 04:45 PM (2goRJ)

147 Oops, a few hundred people died. Well, back to the drawing board!
==
Mr. Gates had some "unfortunate" outcomes in Africa, which thankfully our media doesn't dwell on. . .

Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 11, 2021 04:45 PM (j37DN)

148 Now, the question is, where was Fraudci when the AIDs virus emerged?
Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:36 PM (cI7Oj)

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Didn't he say he used to go to bath houses to observe? What if he went there to plant a certain pathogen to observe the reaction?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 11, 2021 04:46 PM (RMGKK)

149 Not wanting to fling $hit, but why would a pregnant woman want to get an experimental vaccine that has not been tested long term?

Posted by: Mister Scott
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Perhaps you haven't seen the Orwellian commercial that Whitmer did in Michigan. It's Satanic.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:46 PM (cI7Oj)

150 @145

And another damning fact was the smearing of anyone who mentioned there was a cheap, over the counter cure in HCQ

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:46 PM (AwPyG)

151 Speaking of criminal investigations, why wait until the last minute?

This Morning
@thismorning
'We love him so much. We're so proud of him and the choice that he's made.'

At the age of two, Stormy told his family, 'I'm not a girl, I think I'm a boy'. We speak to his parents, Matthew and Klara, who hope that their story helps raise awareness for other families.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2021 04:46 PM (VVEnO)

152 Fauci's state funeral will be larger and longer than McCain's
>When Fauci croaks I will place pennies on his eyes and feed him to the blue crabs.
==
There is no one here who will not taste death, before I.

Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 11, 2021 04:46 PM (j37DN)

153 And when they DID fuck up, it went in to full on panic and CYA mode.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:38 PM (UPoLF)

Most probable scenario, IMO.

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:46 PM (KnJdm)

154 Mr. Gates had some "unfortunate" outcomes in Africa, which thankfully our media doesn't dwell on. .


Mr. Gates is not allowed back into India. However, much of that info has been scrubbed from the interwebs.

Posted by: shibumi at May 11, 2021 04:47 PM (0Yiin)

155 Joe Mama, yes. Massive pressure is being applied to get people injected.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 11, 2021 04:47 PM (KmkAz)

156 145 "What other reason was there for such a vast reaction?"

What color is an orange POTUS?

Posted by: Fool Otto at May 11, 2021 04:47 PM (DB16e)

157 Where China screwed up is by releasing it in China. It's possible that was indeed a lab accident.

If they'd just spread it via the zillions of "Confucius Institutes" they've got entrenched in every major university in the Western Hemisphere, no one would be the wiser.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Look at the timing of the Chinese New Year in 2020. This is/was the largest movement of people ever for the whole World and history.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 11, 2021 04:47 PM (o89XP)

158 The theory that China released this as some kind of population control to eliminate the old/unproductive/expensive doesn't make sense when you consider that they shut down air travel within the country but allowed it to continue out of the country. That screams "making lemonade out of lemons" by making it the rest of the world's problem, too, rather than a botched effort at population control.

Posted by: the dandy at May 11, 2021 04:47 PM (cLNTv)

159 Infrashtrucshure

Posted by: dartist at May 11, 2021 04:47 PM (+ya+t)

160 I'm starting to think that, maybe, voting harder is a losing strategy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 11, 2021 04:43 PM (dDc9Z)

I'm starting to question whether government of the people, by the people, and for the people can ever endure, even in the most debased sense, beyond a span of 300 years.

It seems to me that when people become too comfortable in liberty, they assume it is the natural state of man, and stop guarding it.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at May 11, 2021 04:48 PM (oKmLc)

161 Dixie is right up there with Russia when it comes to our Ruling, Donor, and Overlord classes' pathological hatred.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 11, 2021 04:48 PM (YReMH)

162 There is too much intentional decision-making there.
Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:41 PM (cI7Oj)

Yeah, I completely believe he did all of that. I believe everyone in our government and institutions does shit like that so often that they don't even think about it. It's why Big Pharma does clinical drug trials in third world countries. Oops, a few hundred people died. Well, back to the drawing board!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:43 PM (UPoLF)
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Oh, no doubt, if you get to a certain level of government, it's probably harder to take no for an answer, seeing that you "know better" than anybody else.

And all that motivational stimulus flies under the conscious radar for the most part.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:48 PM (cI7Oj)

163 >>> When China takes over the US, they won't want a bunch of doddering old retirees around. It would be very helpful if everybody over 45 just vaporized.
Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2021 04:29 PM (RuIsu)


Carrousel!

Posted by: banana Dream at May 11, 2021 04:48 PM (bYTQR)

164 Mr. Gates is not allowed back into India. However, much of that info has been scrubbed from the interwebs.
==
that'll happen when you render a few million teenage girls sterile with your vaccine.

Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 11, 2021 04:48 PM (8zF4t)

165 Disagree. The only charges he's guilty of is racketeering and enabling voter fraud.



The politicians and most of the US population is responsible for the rest.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 11, 2021 04:44 PM (Fs5vw)

Add that to the list of charges, sure. But otherwise, we'll agree to disagree.

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:49 PM (KnJdm)

166 Willowed but still relevant to the thread:

Again, I mention this article called Bad News Wrapped in Protein from April 2020:

https://tinyurl.com/Bad-News-Wrapped-Bacon

In the "Spike Protein" section of the paper the authors talk about a sequence of nucleobases that has been inserted "ccucggcgggca" that helps the bat virus bind to a human cell. And at the end of the article they mention that the virus has 33 straight adenine nucleobases, which I am told is also unnatural.

It was manufactured in a lab.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 11, 2021 04:49 PM (Ytivl)

167 Yeah. Those gunshot deaths and motorcycle accidents sure are from Covid.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 04:42 PM (OCTRt)


I make sure that I dip my bullets in CoViD before I go on a drive-by - its how I help out my community.

Posted by: Thug at May 11, 2021 04:49 PM (OPD+s)

168 The pressure is on, people, radio and sure if I watched TV all saying get vaccinated.

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 04:49 PM (Cxk7w)

169
At the age of two, Stormy told his family, 'I'm not a girl, I think I'm a boy'. We speak to his parents, Matthew and Klara, who hope that their story helps raise awareness for other families.

***

Yeah, kids say all kinds of stupid sh*t because they don't know anything yet. Your job as a parent is to say "No, you're a boy." and that's the end of it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:49 PM (XTk1T)

170 Didn't he say he used to go to bath houses to observe? What if he went there to plant a certain pathogen to observe the reaction?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 11, 2021 04:46 PM (RMGKK)

They're pretty sure they figured out where HIV came from. Likely some hunter got infected with it in the 1910's / 1920's, after hunting monkeys for meat, as you do, and getting monkey blood in a cut. Of course, it was a monkey disease and was unlikely to spread from human to human.

But apparently the Belgians were doing a vaccination campaign, and used local workers to vaccinate the locals. Unfortunately, corruption and graft being what it was, needles were reused en masse, and the HIV blood got spread around and somehow it mutated in someones body to be sexually transmissible to other humans. Long story short, prostitutes and gay men took care of the rest.

That's the leading theory at least. Although we don't talk about it much.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:50 PM (UPoLF)

171 The theory that China released this as some kind of population control to eliminate the old/unproductive/expensive doesn't make sense when you consider that they shut down air travel within the country but allowed it to continue out of the country. That screams "making lemonade out of lemons" by making it the rest of the world's problem, too, rather than a botched effort at population control.
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Yes. What he said. Please to look at miserable little two faced shit fauci.

Posted by: Xinnie the pooh at May 11, 2021 04:50 PM (8zF4t)

172 @145

And another damning fact was the smearing of anyone who mentioned there was a cheap, over the counter cure in HCQ

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:46 PM (AwPyG)
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Yeah. That was fucking bizarre.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:50 PM (cI7Oj)

173 Masks - nonscientific CDC/Fraudci guidance.

Lockdowns - no difference in case numbers

6 foot social distance guidance - rando, drawn out of the hat nonscientific CDC/Fauci guidance.

Outdoor transmission rates - pulled out of Fraudci's nethers.
All of it, complete bullshit.

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:50 PM (KnJdm)

174 >>I think you guys are attributing to malice what could easily be explained by stupidity. . . I really don't think they thought this far ahead.


There was a time when I would quickly agree with you.However, there have been other recent events that would suggest otherwise, including the Event 201 pandemic practice, Bill Gates' obsession with vaccines curing overpopulation, the odd social media crackdown on anti-vaxxers back in 2018(of all the conspiracy theories they targeted anti-vaxxers first), etc.. Doesn't mean this was intentionally unleashed, but it feels like they knew that there was a good possiblility it could get messy and they wanted to have everything in place to make sure they benefitted the most should it happen, and it did.

I have becme so cynical, and probably a little too willing to see conspiray theories. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2021 04:51 PM (bDqIh)

175 I would hope that just the fu gene could be made normal. Probably never happen though. My disease is one in a million. So fixing it is not worth the trouble. Drugs too. I get leftover treatment that might help specific symptoms. Right now.... Magnesium for cramps might or might not work. My feet cramp so bad i have trouble walking any distance. Randomly occurring cramps are easing a bit.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at May 11, 2021 04:51 PM (0OmEj)

176 raise awareness for other families.

I'm really sick to death of that phrase "raise awareness"

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2021 04:51 PM (nxdel)

177 The theory that China released this as some kind of population control to eliminate the old/unproductive/expensive doesn't make sense when you consider that they shut down air travel within the country but allowed it to continue out of the country. That screams "making lemonade out of lemons" by making it the rest of the world's problem, too, rather than a botched effort at population control.


I don't believe China did this on purpose, but they did figure out how to make it work for them. It is also in line with the globalist views on population, and it gave them the opportunity to destroy economies and get everyone on board with The Great Reset. So it was all good. They are saving money on social security, culling the population, transferring money to the mega corps, getting rid of small business and teaching the proles to be obedient sheep.

/everyone wondered how they were going to cope with Social Security when all the Baby Boomers started collecting. The problem is solved now!

Posted by: shibumi at May 11, 2021 04:52 PM (WAylS)

178 Just to remind everyone: The government had good information on the progression of COVID within a few weeks, yet, let their totalitarian freak flag fly, and, are probably still in shock that so many American were so easily cowed and or bought into the scam.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 04:52 PM (2SdPm)

179 Or girl. Whatever the kid is, that's what it is. The end.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:52 PM (XTk1T)

180 Oh, and since the pregant woman question was asked:

"McDonald's is teaming up with the White House to help get the word out on COVID-19 vaccines."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:52 PM (XTk1T)

181 Quibbles from last thread, which is same topic, so, not OT, technically.

Tracey's silly comments about a New Cold War with China are so ridiculous they sort of devastate his credibility, at least for anything beyond factual reporting. And Miller - I think these were his words, not repeated ones - that Fauci was the antithesis to President Trump - WTFF? OK, maybe he's just relaying the *MSM*'s portrayal of Fauci as somehow a counter to Trump. But he doesn't bother to correct the outlandish lie of all that.

Has it been documented that Trump didn't agree to a single thing - even one single thing - that Fauci & Co., the disastrously incompetent "task force" - recommended?

If so, I've missed it. Trump over-ruled them to impose the January China travel ban (i.e. the "experts" reco'd against a stringent measure, Trump went for it anyway - tho this is a weird chapter because travel bans like almost all mitigation measures against an already prevalent pathogen like this are pointless).

Remember: every single sentence, almost every word, contains an intentional or intentional or unknowing lie or distortion.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2021 04:53 PM (OTzUX)

182 You know who else had a virus?

Posted by: NPC_00001001 at May 11, 2021 04:53 PM (DMUuz)

183 Outdoor transmission rates - pulled out of Fraudci's nethers.
All of it, complete bullshit.
Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:50 PM (KnJdm)
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My favorite one: Using a bacteria culture to show how a virus can be spread.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 04:53 PM (2SdPm)

184 @173

Yeah--obviously not just "negligence" especially the throttling of oppositional voices.

All churches were immediately shut down, but not markets or big box stores. The corona bros fought like tigers to cancel all sports. This was targeted.

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 04:53 PM (AwPyG)

185 raise awareness for other families.

I'm really sick to death of that phrase "raise awareness"

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2021 04:51 PM (nxdel)


We are through "raising awareness," then. Let's all join hands and begin "lowering ignorance."

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:54 PM (KnJdm)

186 I'm starting to question whether government of the people, by the people, and for the people can ever endure, even in the most debased sense, beyond a span of 300 years.

It seems to me that when people become too comfortable in liberty, they assume it is the natural state of man, and stop guarding it.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at May 11, 2021 04:48 PM (oKmLc)

I think our system is just too easy to game. I mean, so did the founders. They said it would only work with "moral, religious, hardworking" or whatever people. They also tried to set up a much more complex system then we have, with a weak fed gov, strong states, senators who were beholden to states, not to the people, a week executive, and splitting out different functions as much as possible, and hoping every group would fight mightily to retain their power and most shit would just stay in gridlock indefinitely. Most states at the time also severely limited who could vote and influence policy.

Anyways, like I said -- it's too easy to game in it's current incarnation. I think any system like ours is destined to end up a corrupt failed state.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:54 PM (UPoLF)

187 raise awareness for other families.

***

Hey families, kids say stupid sh*t.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:54 PM (XTk1T)

188 In the "Spike Protein" section of the paper the authors talk about a sequence of nucleobases that has been inserted "ccucggcgggca" that helps the bat virus bind to a human cell. And at the end of the article they mention that the virus has 33 straight adenine nucleobases, which I am told is also unnatural.

It was manufactured in a lab.
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FFS people. Evolution has been ticking away for eons, and no bat human virus. We start dicking around with bat virus in lab, with mice that have human skin spliced on their bodies, and an affinity to the ACE2 protein and this happens. Its natural. The timing is just coincidental.

*looks over top glasses, while holding newspaper out*

Posted by: Your no longer amused Dad at May 11, 2021 04:54 PM (sKIZ3)

189 Yeah, I can't find it on YouTube, but in Michigan, they're running a PSA of a Mom who got the vaccine *because* she was pregnant, and she wanted her girl to enter a vaccinated world "free of Covid".

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:54 PM (cI7Oj)

190 > 3K people who took the "vaccine" died

3,000 people died after taking the vaccine is not the same thing as 3,000 people died BECAUSE of the vaccine. Not even close.

Especially not when around 100 million people have been vaccinated, a disproportionate number of whom were old and/or infirm to begin with.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 11, 2021 04:55 PM (JZT2F)

191 3,000 people died after taking the vaccine is not the same thing as 3,000 people died BECAUSE of the vaccine. Not even close.

***

THIS GUY GETS IT!

- Hank Aaron

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:56 PM (XTk1T)

192 Hey, a friend of mine thinks she may have covid. Symptoms seem to suggest it. It's not bad but just dragging on. How long have Morons who've had it been sick? (She's taking the multi-vitamins/minerals/herb pills, fluids, etc.)

Posted by: SFGoth at May 11, 2021 04:56 PM (KAi1n)

193 Yeah, I can't find it on YouTube, but in Michigan,
they're running a PSA of a Mom who got the vaccine *because* she was
pregnant, and she wanted her girl to enter a vaccinated world "free of
Covid".

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:54 PM (cI7Oj)

So she can sit it on a shelf and watch it die. Since when has the left ever cared about kids, other than to harvest body parts or use them in their indoctrination centers.

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:56 PM (KnJdm)

194 Now, viruses mutate and replicate very quickly, but there should still be exemplars of various transitional forms in any virus' chain of mutation.

A Harvard biologist concluded that Covid-19 was artificially made for a simple reason: the virus did not show the signs of an incremental evolution over trillions of reproductions.


The Piltdown variant is the missing link.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated american at May 11, 2021 04:56 PM (4I/2K)

195 And at the end of the article they mention that the virus has 33 straight adenine nucleobases, which I am told is also unnatural.

It was manufactured in a lab.
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It's like they put "This strand left intentionally blank" in a protein chain. Why not A, is a good letter.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:57 PM (cI7Oj)

196 Came up yesterday on The Federalist, tax payer funding for Trannys is coming

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 04:57 PM (Cxk7w)

197 Fuck Biden and every idiot who "voted" for him. .


Maybe off topic, but always correct

Posted by: LASue at May 11, 2021 04:57 PM (Ed8Zd)

198 190 > 3K people who took the "vaccine" died

3,000 people died after taking the vaccine is not the same thing as 3,000 people died BECAUSE of the vaccine. Not even close.

Especially not when around 100 million people have been vaccinated, a disproportionate number of whom were old and/or infirm to begin with.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 11, 2021 04:55 PM (JZT2F)

I agree with your take, Rodrigo, but I have one nagging question that comes with that:

If what has taken place under the EUA is basically a Phase IV trial involving a hundred million people, and only 3K have died from a correlative (not causative) standpoint, what is holding the FDA up from simply approving the vaccine right now?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2021 04:58 PM (hKTv8)

199 Hey, a friend of mine thinks she may have covid. Symptoms seem to suggest it. It's not bad but just dragging on. How long have Morons who've had it been sick? (She's taking the multi-vitamins/minerals/herb pills, fluids, etc.)
Posted by: SFGoth at May 11, 2021 04:56 PM (KAi1n)

***

Untreated it was a couple of weeks. There are options like Ivermectin (sp?) now, so she should talk to a doctor and be done with it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:58 PM (XTk1T)

200 So she can sit it on a shelf and watch it die. Since when has the left ever cared about kids, other than to harvest body parts or use them in their indoctrination centers.
Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 04:56 PM (KnJdm)
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They know that's not the way the other side feels. They are trying to get *you* vaccinatedset up for genetic reprogramming.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:58 PM (cI7Oj)

201
Yes, I'm pretty sure Covid is not a bioweapon. It was a leak from the Wuhan lab due to sloppy containment (and for this kind of thing, I don't how much containment is enough -- me, this is the kind of thing you would do on the Moon, not on Earth, and have a nuclear self-destruct mechanism that would vaporize the whole thing if need be before anything or anyone could get out).

However, this GOF shit is very much "dual use". By learning how to make viruses easily infect humans, you then have the delivery means for your real bioweapons.

Covid is not Capt. Trips, but once you perfect this, you can then attach the spike proteins and whatever else you've learned to the real Capt. Trips.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2021 04:59 PM (Mzdiz)

202 Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2021 04:51 PM (bDqIh)

I used to be more in to theories like that, but I just am having a hard time finding that level of competence anywhere in our government or elite institutions.

Maybe it's because I know people who work in government, finance, media, big tech, and big business and they are all, almost to a t, fucking idiots.

Like they mindlessly buy the company line and don't think for themselves at all. And the only way to advance in those companies is to be a drone who follows the "mission statement" and speaks in nonsense corporate talk. I have one friend who isn't like that, who works in the mortgage backed securities market for one of the biggest banks in the country, and he'll say stuff like "dude, this shit is ridiculous. It makes no sense. We're moving trillions of dollars in fake money around all the time, and literally makes no sense. It's just banks loaning banks money to buy dubious assets from banks to sell to other banks. I don't understand how this is a thing." But he makes good money, so he pretends to be a mindless drone at work.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 04:59 PM (UPoLF)

203 > what is holding the FDA up from simply approving the vaccine right now?

Well, I see that it's been approved for 12 and older as of this week.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 11, 2021 04:59 PM (JZT2F)

204 Hey, a friend of mine thinks she may have covid. Symptoms seem to suggest it. It's not bad but just dragging on. How long have Morons who've had it been sick? (She's taking the multi-vitamins/minerals/herb pills, fluids, etc.)
Posted by: SFGoth at May 11, 2021 04:56 PM (KAi1n)

5 days, give or take. Plus very tired for a few days afterwards. Have her take high dose vitamin c, zinc, and vitamin D. Also gummy vites, the magical cure for everything, and delicious, too.

Posted by: LASue at May 11, 2021 04:59 PM (Ed8Zd)

205 If what has taken place under the EUA is basically a Phase IV trial involving a hundred million people, and only 3K have died from a correlative (not causative) standpoint, what is holding the FDA up from simply approving the vaccine right now?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2021 04:58 PM (hKTv
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I'm pretty sure, given the litigious standards, liability would kick in. Or, there would be a clear demarcation of damages you can sue for and those you can't.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:00 PM (cI7Oj)

206 What the hell is a trannie?

Posted by: Lick at May 1

$20 same as in town.

Posted by: OMG LOL at May 11, 2021 05:00 PM (KHXdf)

207 197 why do dogs lick?
same as anyone else: to get to the center of the tootsiepop

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 11, 2021 05:00 PM (sGtp+)

208 And Ivermectin.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:00 PM (xopIz)

209 O/T: Why are nearly all of the "refugees from violence and corruption, who struggled across a thousand tortuous miles to get to the United States in hope of a better life," overweight, wearing clean clothes, and looking like they recently bathed when they get to our border? Why aren't they malnourished, dirty, and wearing raggedy, dirty clothes? I am puzzled. But I'll bet no one in the Biden Regime is puzzled.

Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:01 PM (AMIL/)

210 If samples of the mRna and the J&J drugs found their way to independent labs, what would they find?

Nano tech?

A stealth payload of sterilant, like they found in the Kenyan tetanus vaccines?

Other?

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 11, 2021 05:01 PM (KmkAz)

211 Chinese SKSs w/ bayonet $500 at PSA.

Posted by: Spork at May 11, 2021 05:01 PM (+AASJ)

212 "Well, I see that it's been approved for 12 and older as of this week. "


Approved....or authorized?


The difference is non-trivial.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at May 11, 2021 05:01 PM (S7VTO)

213 We can have John Durham stage an FBI 4am no-knock arrest of Fauci while subpeona all ghey bath houses in a 50 mile radius around Fauci's residence for computer and communication records.

#TwoWeeks

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at May 11, 2021 05:02 PM (tkKv1)

214 Yeah, I can't find it on YouTube, but in Michigan, they're running a PSA of a Mom who got the vaccine *because* she was pregnant,

and she wanted her girl to enter a vaccinated world "free of Covid".
Posted by: Axeman


Yet the vaccine doesn't keep you from catching it.
So how's that work?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:02 PM (OCTRt)

215 My follow up question to Grammie's question:

If there is a moratorium on this research, why would Fauci sign off using the loophole, when their name would be so clearly attached to it?

What was it about Shi's research that they thought was so important to take such a legal risk?

I mean sure, as it turns out he isn't even going to get a slap on the wrist for killing 3M people (Stalin shakes his fist in jealous anger from hell), but he didn't know that at the time.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 11, 2021 05:02 PM (5p7BC)

216 Does anybody or anything "run" the CIA?

Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2021 05:02 PM (RuIsu)

217 And at the end of the article they mention that the virus has 33 straight adenine nucleobases, which I am told is also unnatural.

It was manufactured in a lab.
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It's like they put "This strand left intentionally blank" in a protein chain. Why not A, is a good letter.
Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 04:57 PM (cI7Oj)


"This strand available for rent."

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2021 05:02 PM (dWwl8)

218 what is holding the FDA up from simply approving the vaccine right now?
==
Its not approved. It has been granted an emergency use authorization. It is experimental.

It has to complete clinical trials. Not till next year. All of them. Don't forgot that. No matter how much the media keeps pounding it.

It. Is. Not. Approved. It is emergency use authorization.

Which means there can be no other viable therapeutic options - which is why they had to destroy HCQ and Zinc Ivermectic as potential treatments. If other treatments become available and useful, then authorization is PULLED.

Posted by: Your no longer amused Dad at May 11, 2021 05:03 PM (8gPhE)

219 Rhomboid,
are you saying that we are not in a cold war with China?

I disagree. It does not look like the old cold war, but wars evolve in response to changing technology and new information.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 11, 2021 05:03 PM (idcaC)

220 The vaccine has emergency authorization, which I assume is what the 12-15 year old age group "approval" means.

IIRC actual approval takes months if not years of monitoring, which is part of what you agree to when you sign the papers saying you'd like to participate in the trials before you receive the chemical.

Or am I mistaken?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:03 PM (XTk1T)

221 At the age of two, Stormy told his family, 'I'm not a girl, I think I'm a boy'. We speak to his parents, Matthew and Klara, who hope that their story helps raise awareness for other families.

***

Yeah, kids say all kinds of stupid sh*t because they don't know anything yet. Your job as a parent is to say "No, you're a boy." and that's the end of it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 04:49 PM (XTk1T)

When I was 8 or 9 I truly thought the only difference between girls and boys was the length of their hair and what kind of pants they wore. I would not have been the best judge of whether or not I should be biological girl or boy, and thank goodness that was not an issue.

Posted by: LASue at May 11, 2021 05:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

222 "Fuck Biden and every idiot who "voted" for him. . "


Shout it loud and proud.

Posted by: Tuna at May 11, 2021 05:03 PM (gLRfa)

223 You know, Bill, there's one thing I learned in all my years. Sometimes you just gotta say, "What the fuck, make your move.

Bill Gates: You are so right.

Posted by: Joel Goodson at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (4I/2K)

224 Came up yesterday on The Federalist, tax payer funding for Trannys is coming

So we interviewed some 40s something heavy, out of shape hippie looking dude to join our technical team. Seems competent and eager to go. So we make an offer. He accepts.

Director: "So we made an offer to Robert, but he announced he is transitioning and will be going by the name Roe... anyone have a problem with that?"

(we all know that there is only one acceptable answer)

I'm thinking to myself. Why on earth would some dude that looks like a roadie for Grateful Dead want to LARP an aging 1950s house wife?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (OPD+s)

225 Hey, a friend of mine thinks she may have covid. Symptoms seem to suggest it. It's not bad but just dragging on. How long have Morons who've had it been sick? (She's taking the multi-vitamins/minerals/herb pills, fluids, etc.)
Posted by: SFGoth at May 11, 2021 04:56 PM (KAi1n)
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I had it and only had mild symptoms for a few days, BUT on the 11th day I woke up feeling like I had been run over by a Mack truck. That was the only symptom I had, but three days of taking ivermectin did nothing to help (too late) and I was sent to the ER for a chest X-ray. I had Covid pneumonia - with no fever, a bit of a cough that showed up mainly when I got to the hospital, and the fatigue as the only other symptom.

My advice to anyone who thinks they have covid is to find a doctor who will prescribe ivermectin and get on it right away. I wish I had. I only called my doctor after it was too late because my symptoms had been so mild.

Posted by: bluebell at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (wyw4S)

226
Getting a vaccine for a bullshit pandemic to return to Normal is not "normal."

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (aqrfx)

227 All it takes for things to get back to normal is to stop testing healthy people.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (XTk1T)

228 221 what is holding the FDA up from simply approving the vaccine right now?
==
Its not approved. It has been granted an emergency use authorization. It is experimental.

It has to complete clinical trials. Not till next year. All of them. Don't forgot that. No matter how much the media keeps pounding it.

It. Is. Not. Approved. It is emergency use authorization.

Which means there can be no other viable therapeutic options - which is why they had to destroy HCQ and Zinc Ivermectic as potential treatments. If other treatments become available and useful, then authorization is PULLED.
Posted by: Your no longer amused Dad at May 11, 2021 05:03 PM (8gPhE)

This one gets it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (hKTv8)

229 182 You know who else had a virus?
gary coleman?

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 11, 2021 05:05 PM (v3pYe)

230 "Well, I see that it's been approved for 12 and older as of this week. "

Approved....or authorized?

The difference is non-trivial.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice


Approved for "emergency use". Which is why you see more commercials for plaque psoriasis than you do for Covid. Because they can't advertise a drug that isn't FDA approved.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:05 PM (OCTRt)

231 Kids want to eat candy all day, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:05 PM (XTk1T)

232 If there is a moratorium on this research, why would Fauci sign off using the loophole, when their name would be so clearly attached to it?

Because it was the only way we could do it. And I am untouchable.

What was it about Shi's research that they thought was so important to take such a legal risk?

Shi's a patsy. She takes the blame, we get a product designed to spec, and distributed NOT BY US, and then we get to sell vax.

Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 11, 2021 05:05 PM (TzXwW)

233 The CIA is Skynet without the robots

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 05:05 PM (Cxk7w)

234 The pressure is on, people, radio and sure if I watched TV all saying get vaccinated.
Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2021 04:49 PM (Cxk7w)


Hell, the towns around me are putting up actual metal signs - like stop or speed limit signs - saying "wear the mask, take the vax, do the task!"

FTS hard and long.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (2JVJo)

235 Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 11, 2021 05:02 PM (5p7BC)

I think I answered that upthread.

The Science Industrial Complex wants to do this research because it could, theoretically, lead to some great scientific breakthroughs in humans, and they're not allowed to do gene editing on humans yet.

So when they wrote the legislation, the lobbyists for the Science Industrial Complex wrote in ways around listening to the stupid politicians and their silly voters. And no one was smart enough to say "shit, this may not be a good idea..." because, I mean, cmon, we're talking about the smartest people to have ever existed on this planet, obviously. they would never fuck up. No one told Oppenheimer he couldn't fuck around with world changing ways to make bombs, so who the hell is Joe Sixpack to try to stop them?

And then, oops, turns out they fucked up. so CYA time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (UPoLF)

236 It is my firm belief that COVID was developed by the ChiComs as a doomsday weapon to stop a revolt and prevent the collapse of their government. It was close with the HK riots and other internal turmoil. Suddenly, it all went away. The fact that the virus went global was of no concern to China but turned out to be a net positive for the Maoist movement in general.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (uBAt0)

237 Which means there can be no other viable therapeutic options - which is why they had to destroy HCQ and Zinc Ivermectic as potential treatments. If other treatments become available and useful, then authorization is PULLED.

***

Yeah, what would probably make the required $1200 quarterly boosters tough to sell.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (XTk1T)

238 Fauci deserves to hang. or his head needs a pike. As a warning.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at May 11, 2021 04:32 PM

This is true right now for hundreds, if not thousands, of people in America. It is a pressing need, lest we suffer the deaths of millions at their hands.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (OssQ4)

239 Technically, the FDA cannot approve a vaccine when other treatments (e.g. ivermectin) are effective.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (xopIz)

240 Which means there can be no other viable therapeutic options - which is why they had to destroy HCQ and Zinc Ivermectic as potential treatments. If other treatments become available and useful, then authorization is PULLED.

Even better, if the "vaccine" kills you, your life-insurance won't pay off because you took an optional experimental and unapproved medication.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 11, 2021 05:07 PM (OPD+s)

241 Untreated it was a couple of weeks. There are options like Ivermectin (sp?) now, so she should talk to a doctor and be done with it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

She's not getting ivermectin in S.F., not legitimately anyway.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 11, 2021 05:07 PM (KAi1n)

242 Kids want to eat candy all day, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:05 PM (XTk1T)
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They identify as perpetual candy-eaters, got to let them.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:07 PM (cI7Oj)

243 Hey, a friend of mine thinks she may have covid. Symptoms seem to suggest it. It's not bad but just dragging on. How long have Morons who've had it been sick? (She's taking the multi-vitamins/minerals/herb pills, fluids, etc.)
Posted by: SFGoth


Four days felt like crap. Then "poof", right as rain.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:07 PM (OCTRt)

244 Does Dr. Evil, I mean Dr. Fauci own a cat?

Posted by: Glenn John at May 11, 2021 05:07 PM (LilNs)

245 MANY KIDS WANT THE FUCKING VACCINE. ASK THEM.
Posted by: Lick at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (U3yUz)


Many kids want to play video games all day. Ask them.

Fuckstick.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 11, 2021 05:07 PM (2JVJo)

246 "Gentlemen" - no, not saying that at all. Just noting Tracey's silly statement saying he feared a new cold war with China. I think it is a meaningful indicator of his limited/faulty analytical framework. Of course we're in a cold war with China, have been for years.

In a weird parallel to the situation with Iran, only during the Trump years (well, actually also the Bush years, WRT Iran), did the US acknowledge and act like it was in a serious conflict - meanwhile China and Iran were prosecuting their side of the conflict non-stop.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2021 05:08 PM (OTzUX)

247 244 Technically, the FDA cannot approve a vaccine when other treatments (e.g. ivermectin) are effective.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (xopIz)

By the way, this tells you everything that a layman needs to know about what to do if you caught COVID in the early stages.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2021 05:08 PM (hKTv8)

248 And Ivermectin.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:00 PM (xopIz)
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Don't worry, your secret is safe with us.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:08 PM (cI7Oj)

249 The Eco Freaks deliberately invested in a designer virus, to see just how much havoc they could create, as a trial run toward creating a much more deadly virus aimed at eliminating a good portion of human beings on this planet.
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Plot of Rainbow Six

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 11, 2021 05:08 PM (5p7BC)

250 She's not getting ivermectin in S.F., not legitimately anyway.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 11, 2021 05:07 PM (KAi1n)

**

Some moron (Jim?) posted a link to the doctors in Texas that will do phone consultations and prescriptions, but like Bluebell said, it might be too late. Maybe worth a call, though. I'll see if I can track it down.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:09 PM (XTk1T)

251 "Approved for "emergency use". "

I think that if you look closely...

it is authorized for emergency use, not approved for emergency use..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at May 11, 2021 05:09 PM (S7VTO)

252 I have becme so cynical, and probably a little too willing to see conspiray theories. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2021 04:51 PM


You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 11, 2021 05:09 PM (DMUuz)

253 IIRC actual approval takes months if not years of monitoring, which is part of what you agree to when you sign the papers saying you'd like to participate in the trials before you receive the chemical.

Or am I mistaken?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:03 PM (XTk1T)

usually (always?) takes years, which is a big reason why Big Pharma is always bitching about 20 year patents.

"Yeah, we file the patent, but then we have to go through 7 years of clinical trials to get FDA approval, so we really only get exclusivity for 13 years..." they whine.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:09 PM (UPoLF)

254 I am really tired of that CDC ad that tries to pander to "trump people" with the awww shucks narrator with generic midwest farmer drawl. Washing hands, wearing masks and social distancing is all good stuff, and I am going to get my vaccine when it is my turn!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:09 PM (uBAt0)

255 I identify as a person who can stay up and watch movies until 10

Posted by: A Kid These Days at May 11, 2021 05:10 PM (cI7Oj)

256 Personally my wife and I would not have gotten the shot but she had TB many years ago. If I got sick the chances of her getting sick would be high and she wouldn't make it.

Posted by: harleycowboy at May 11, 2021 05:10 PM (+9AX9)

257
Cynical?

I woke up this morning with the thought of Justice Scalia being killed by obama and his cia.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 05:10 PM (aqrfx)

258 MANY KIDS WANT THE FUCKING VACCINE. ASK THEM.


Posted by: Lick at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (U3yUz)

Many kids want a pony. Seen and not heard, like old ways.

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (KnJdm)

259 She's not getting ivermectin in S.F., not legitimately anyway.
Posted by: SFGoth


Any place that sells pet supplies for equine or dogs. Fresh, apple tasting dewormer too!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (OCTRt)

260 It is my firm belief that COVID was developed by the ChiComs as a doomsday weapon to stop a revolt and prevent the collapse of their government. It was close with the HK riots and other internal turmoil. Suddenly, it all went away. The fact that the virus went global was of no concern to China but turned out to be a net positive for the Maoist movement in general.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (uBAt0)

Maybe, but if so, it's a pretty shitty doomsday virus. Maybe they expected / hoped it would be deadlier, and closer to the original SARS.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (UPoLF)

261 244 Technically, the FDA cannot approve a vaccine when other treatments (e.g. ivermectin) are effective.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:06 PM (xopIz)


Serious question: If the above is true, why do we have flu vaccines routinely available each year? Is each year's vaccine given an emergency approval, or is there a carve-out for flu vaccines in the laws or FDA regulations?

Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (AMIL/)

262 To me the troubling thing in all of this is the extreme arrogance and hubris of virologists thinking they can control the experimental viruses they create in the lab. We know Fauci has said that he didn't take societal or economic factors into account, he just deals with the virological aspects. I think many virologists exist in a similar bubble of the laboratory, with the assumption that their lab protocols will be effective. If this virus leaked from the Wuhan lab, whether through an infected lab worker walking home one night shedding virus into the population, or some schlub taking an infected mouse home as a pet for his kids, or however, obviously the protocols didn't work. One big oopsie, but hey, you caan't blame us, we followed the safety protocols. It's not OUR fault. Hubris writ large.And extremely dangerous.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (Fc5rx)

263 Plot of Rainbow Six
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 11, 2021 05:08 PM (5p7BC)
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I still wonder at the sudden demise of Tom Clancy.

By the way, I've not read the book.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (2SdPm)

264 I am really tired of that CDC ad that tries to pander to "trump people" with the awww shucks narrator with generic midwest farmer drawl. Washing hands, wearing masks and social distancing is all good stuff, and I am going to get my vaccine when it is my turn!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:09 PM (uBAt0)
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Pepperidge Farms remembers wearing a mask.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms Country Bumpkin at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (cI7Oj)

265 I was listening to CBC Radio 1 on the drive home. The Canadian neighbours are learning about the Whitmer decision to shut down Pipeline No. 5.

The freak-out is real. The pipeline provides more than half of Ontario crude and 66% of Quebec propane. Chemical Valley industries in Sarnia are screwed immediately.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 11, 2021 05:12 PM (/+bwe)

266 Is LICK a troll?

Or stupid.

Or.....both?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at May 11, 2021 05:12 PM (S7VTO)

267 Because we're not a functional country, obviously.
.......

I want a refund.

Posted by: wth at May 11, 2021 05:12 PM (v0R5T)

268 MANY KIDS WANT THE FUCKING VACCINE. ASK THEM.
Posted by: Lick at May 11, 2021 05:04 PM (U3yUz)

Given the current school curriculums I don't think kids need a vaccine in order to know how to fuck.

Posted by: too much tongue at May 11, 2021 05:12 PM (k39e/)

269
A good rule of thumb, which I follow, is to wait 5 - 10 years before taking any new treatment. It takes about that long for the *long term* side effects and problems to show up in the larger population. This stuff will not be caught in the short term clinical trials.

An example that comes to mind: The put my father on high dose niacin (for cholesterol control), then a while back took him off it completely. Why, long term data showed the risks outweighed the benefits.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2021 05:12 PM (Mzdiz)

270 For anyone who has never seen it this is an interesting website that has collected, for over a year, every study of Hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness against The 'Rona and other viruses:

https://c19hcq.com/

Posted by: Sharkman at May 11, 2021 05:13 PM (Ytivl)

271 Technically, the FDA cannot approve a vaccine when other treatments (e.g. ivermectin) are effective.

****

I don't think that is correct.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 11, 2021 05:13 PM (Fc5rx)

272 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:09 PM (uBAt0)

To be fair, I'm all for people washing their hands. Like Trump, I'm a bit of a germophobe and some things (like QR code menus instead of gross laminated never-cleaned menus covered in god knows what, and people washing their hands more often) have been welcomed for me.

The rest of the stuff though? C'mon.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:13 PM (UPoLF)

273 She's not getting ivermectin in S.F., not legitimately anyway.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 11, 2021 05:07 PM (KAi1n)
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myfreedoctor.com might get the job done.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 05:13 PM (2SdPm)

274 The arrogance of the biologists brings Matthew 24:22 into view.
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And if those days had not been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:14 PM (cI7Oj)

275 261 Personally my wife and I would not have gotten the shot but she had TB many years ago. If I got sick the chances of her getting sick would be high and she wouldn't make it.
Posted by: harleycowboy at May 11, 2021 05:10 PM (+9AX9)

I think that people can make a reasonable risk calculation on their own, given enough information. From a global standpoint, there was every reason to go ahead with Operation Warp Speed and develop something safe and effective (at least in the short term). Without something, our global economy would grind to a halt right now. From a macro standpoint, EUA makes sense in this environment (taking away, for the moment, the effectiveness of HCQ, etc.)

From an individual standpoint, however, it's different. If you have less than a 1% chance of getting sick and dying, it's one calculation. If think you're high-risk, it's quite another. YMMV. No judgments from me.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2021 05:14 PM (hKTv8)

276
Remember when that little cocksucker bill maher in 2019 said he wished for "depression" just so President Trump would lose because he KNEW President Trump was easily going to win another term?

The Democrats and china heard him and said way ahead of you! They delivered a Plague to Shut Down our economy and change election rules.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (aqrfx)

277 You can buy Ivermectin OTC at any farm supply.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (xopIz)

278 WTFF is going on with the pipeline in MI? How can it just be shut down? Canuckistan gotta be jumpin' mad about this.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (OTzUX)

279 Serious question: If the above is true, why do we have flu vaccines routinely available each year? Is each year's vaccine given an emergency approval, or is there a carve-out for flu vaccines in the laws or FDA regulations?
Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (AMIL/)

As I understand it, the vaccines have been around for a long time, they just guess which strain of flu will be prevalent in any given year and they give that one.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (UPoLF)

280 rhomboid,

Oh, OK.
I think he was just saying that a lot of people used that as an excuse -- don't poke the bear. ("If there is a bear.")

So I did not agree with Tracy, but I did not think it was ludicrous, only reflected the misguided conventional wisdom.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (idcaC)

281 Yeah, lick, about that back to normal thing: don't forget to wear your mask at all times, even though you're vaccinated.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 05:16 PM (2SdPm)

282 285 WTFF is going on with the pipeline in MI? How can it just be shut down? Canuckistan gotta be jumpin' mad about this.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (OTzUX)

Good, fuck 'em and their passive aggressive kindness.

(just kidding, that sucks. Double whammy for them after Biden killed Keystone XL)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:16 PM (UPoLF)

283 You can buy it online quite easily.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:16 PM (xopIz)

284 Something big just happened in Israel........ Building collapses and reported rocket attacks and air strikes....

GOOD JOB BLO JIDEN.... Transgender rights is more important than the ME burning .....

Posted by: James at May 11, 2021 05:16 PM (rWWna)

285 All I know is I gots my first shot today. YeeeeHaaaaaa, back to normal in not too much longer. Just practicing.
Posted by: Lick at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (U3yUz)
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^^^^ Somebody who doesn't sound like he's been listening to the CDC or Fraudci.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (cI7Oj)

286 Serious question: If the above is true, why do we have flu vaccines routinely available each year? Is each year's vaccine given an emergency approval, or is there a carve-out for flu vaccines in the laws or FDA regulations?
Posted by: Gref


The process for making a flu vaccine is old. The "variants" have been around a long time. It's not like they are coming up with a new, untried medicine.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (OCTRt)

287 I still wonder at the sudden demise of Tom Clancy.

By the way, I've not read the book.
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If you want the ultimate conspiracy that fits the facts of Covid, read Rainbow Six.

In that book's plot the vaccine would be the second wave that is intended to kill the majority of the population.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (5p7BC)

288 Y'all realize lick is a troll, right?

Posted by: SMH at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (wparq)

289 Look up Dr Stella Immanuel's clinic. They will set her up with a doctor that will help.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (YynYJ)

290 see even china fucks up everything

this deadly virus kills 20 per 1,000 of people over 70

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (bTQ72)

291 Maybe, but if so, it's a pretty shitty doomsday virus. Maybe they expected / hoped it would be deadlier, and closer to the original SARS.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (UPoLF)

It was as deadly as it needed to be. Scared people enough to go along with the lockdowns and shut down the protests without the army having to open fire on protesters, which is what they were close to doing.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (uBAt0)

292 WTFF is going on with the pipeline in MI? How can it just be shut down? Canuckistan gotta be jumpin' mad about this.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (OTzUX)

Good, fuck 'em and their passive aggressive kindness.

(just kidding, that sucks. Double whammy for them after Biden killed Keystone XL)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:16 PM (UPoLF)

The same Canada that's arresting pastors?
Yeah, they can go screw.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (ifmtJ)

293 >>MANY KIDS WANT THE FUCKING VACCINE. ASK THEM.



They want to go back to enjoying their dang childhood.
They want to play sports, hang out with friends after school, go on vacation, go to camp, go to prom, go to parties, make-out with that cute boy ir girl who sits near them in History class, etc..

Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (bDqIh)

294 Scalia died of Natchual Causes. Trust me.

Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2021 05:17 PM (RuIsu)

295 Technically, the FDA cannot approve a vaccine when other treatments (e.g. ivermectin) are effective.

****

I don't think that is correct.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 11, 2021 05:13 PM (Fc5rx)

As I understand it (from a law perspective, not a medical perspective, since I know very little about nerdy shit like science, and am just a moron), emergency use for drugs is only supposed to be granted if there isn't a viable alternative that's already FDA approved.

Which I think is what the previous poster meant to say.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:18 PM (UPoLF)

296 I doubt they'll lay a glove on Fauci. He's a lifetime deep state minion.

Posted by: Ordinary American at May 11, 2021 05:18 PM (uiux8)

297 Yeah, lick, about that back to normal thing: don't forget to wear your mask at all times, even though you're vaccinated.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 05:16 PM (2SdPm)
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Don't forget you can get it, carry it, and pass it on, having been "immunized" against the current strain of the virus.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:18 PM (cI7Oj)

298 The gun fights over gasoline, toilet paper and cigarettes will come before Tony Fauci's indictment.

The end of American civility is here.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 11, 2021 05:18 PM (YA914)

299 IDF spokesman's twatters not updated since this morning. Odd. Fair amount of festivities going on (Israeli targeted strikes in Gaza).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2021 05:19 PM (OTzUX)

300 picked up kids at elementary school today

everyone but 20 kids or so and 3 parents had a mask on, outside ....

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:19 PM (bTQ72)

301 myfreedoctor.com might get the job done.

***

That's what I was looking for. Thanks.

Related, it's fascinating how that doesn't come up easily in search engine results.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:20 PM (yK9py)

302 Maybe, but if so, it's a pretty shitty doomsday virus. Maybe they expected / hoped it would be deadlier, and closer to the original SARS.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (UPoLF)
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The money for the real conspiracy theorists is on the vaccine.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:20 PM (cI7Oj)

303 306 My shot has been proven in the real world to be 99.991 percent effective. Once I am immune, fuck your masks wear them or not.
Posted by: Lick at May 11, 2021 05:19 PM (U3yUz)

I agree, which is why all however many millions of us who have had covid or suspect we have had it shouldn't have to wear masks either.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:20 PM (UPoLF)

304 Y'all realize lick is a troll, right?
Posted by: SMH


If we set up a gofundme, can we get a higher quality troll?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:20 PM (OCTRt)

305 What is an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)?
An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. Taking into consideration input from the FDA, manufacturers decide whether and when to submit an EUA request to FDA." From the FDA.

Posted by: Nova local at May 11, 2021 05:20 PM (b1h2x)

306 AKA - Nothing would be officially approved for Covid-19 in the timeline, so everything is in play as EUA only in this pandemic. Prescribing a med for off-use would be all docs could do anyway, and would never interfere in the vax getting & maintaining EUA. If you watch The Great Courses on Pediatrics, you find out that off use is used all the time for kids b/c the time and energy to get approval for meds and uses is enormous, and they don't usually include kids...

Posted by: Nova local at May 11, 2021 05:21 PM (b1h2x)

307 Technically, the FDA cannot approve a vaccine when other treatments (e.g. ivermectin) are effective.



****



I don't think that is correct.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 11, 2021 05:13 PM (Fc5rx)

I've heard that tossed around twice here now. I've not seen any info confirming that.

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 05:21 PM (KnJdm)

308 @310

This. A lot of chatter that the goal is the vaccine, which will mess up your immunity system so that you can't recover.

It would keep the bad guys' hands clean.

Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2021 05:21 PM (AwPyG)

309 305 The gun fights over gasoline, toilet paper and cigarettes will come before Tony Fauci's indictment.

The end of American civility is here.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 11, 2021 05:18 PM (YA914)

I was walking by the gas station today in my undisclosed southern city hide out and laughed at the absolute traffic jam of cars honking at each other trying to get gas.

On the walk back, there was a big sign that said "no gas." Seemed less funny.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:21 PM (UPoLF)

310 trolls really went down hill after machine tools and pipe fittings left

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:21 PM (bTQ72)

311 myfreedoctor.com might get the job done.

That's what I was looking for. Thanks.
Related, it's fascinating how that doesn't come up easily in search engine results.
Posted by: Moron Robbie


Also, doxycycline from fish/aquarium stores for those of us that are allergic to penicillin.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:22 PM (OCTRt)

312 If we set up a gofundme, can we get a higher quality troll?
Posted by: rickb223
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Why bother?

Seems this troll is getting enough attention.

Posted by: SMH at May 11, 2021 05:22 PM (wparq)

313 Technically, the FDA cannot approve a vaccine when other treatments (e.g. ivermectin) are effective.

****

I don't think that is correct.
==
So the rub is "approve" vs. "authorize" for an emergency use authorization you can't have any therapeutics that work.

People hear from the Media constantly that its APPROVED for this or that. it isn't its an experimental emergency use authorization. PERIOD. It won't be approved until it finishes clinical trials sometime next year. All of them.

Posted by: its not his fault, they a gaslighting everyone at May 11, 2021 05:22 PM (79Rsc)

314 I've heard that tossed around twice here now. I've not seen any info confirming that.


Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 05:21 PM (KnJdm)

I stand corrected at 313. I think that is a fair if not polyanna-ish reading in our post-law society.

Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 05:22 PM (KnJdm)

315
I had to got get an inner tube for a tractor tire this afternoon and was listening to a local talk show during the trip. Gas stations in Greenville, SC are running out of gas and shutting down, and there are panicking lunatics trying to hoard gas. They were talking about some idiot had put some big tank on a trailer behind his pickup, maybe 300 gal. for the look of it, and was trying to fill it up with gas.

And then they played Jen Psaki addressing the problem. Have no fear, Biden is here. She said that all Americans should not worry because Biden was using all the resources and expertise of the govt. to address these problems. Those on the East coast and the Southeast shouldn't worry because, direct quote, "the government is all over this."

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2021 05:23 PM (Mzdiz)

316 "trolls really went down hill after machine tools and pipe fittings left"

No shit.


These cheap chinese knock-off trolls are pretty pathetic.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at May 11, 2021 05:23 PM (S7VTO)

317 Y'all realize lick is a troll, right?
Posted by: SMH


If we set up a gofundme, can we get a higher quality troll?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:20 PM (OCTRt)


last time that happened he stayed and asked for more

Posted by: runner at May 11, 2021 05:23 PM (V13WU)

318 Posted by: its not his fault, they a gaslighting everyone at May 11, 2021 05:22 PM (79Rsc)

I mean none of this really matters, nothing is approved for on label covid use anyways, and the FDA would just waive any requirements that got in the way of issuing the vaccines.

I don't think that's what is at play here.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:23 PM (UPoLF)

319
what was the lace troll?

lace whigs? that does not sound right

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:23 PM (bTQ72)

320 I would pay good money to watch a butcher flay Fauci. Not a good butcher but a really bad one with pretty dull knives. But I would still pay for a good butcher with razor sharp knives flaying Fauci.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 11, 2021 05:24 PM (w5raC)

321 They made him into a hero for the same reasons they made Cuomo into a hero.

Posted by: ... at May 11, 2021 05:24 PM (uEbPt)

322 The money for the real conspiracy theorists is on the vaccine.


***

"Gosh, sorry guys, but it looks like there was a problem with the genetic-coding element, and you're going to need to take these shots every month in order to not have the cancerous side effects. How much will each shot cost? No more than $10K. $12K tops. We'll let you know."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:24 PM (yK9py)

323 Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. Taking into consideration input from the FDA, manufacturers decide whether and when to submit an EUA request to FDA." From the FDA.

Posted by: Nova local


Sounds like what they've been saying.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:24 PM (OCTRt)

324 I believe Trump elevated Fauci to Covid Czar under the "you broke it, you fix it" approach that is a very common sentiment among business leaders.

Posted by: Desultory joe at May 11, 2021 05:24 PM (L9P9s)

325
Did Ace forgot to post today's Quick Hits post?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 05:24 PM (aqrfx)

326 "But I would still pay for a good butcher with razor sharp knives flaying Fauci. "

No knives.


Use a flail.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at May 11, 2021 05:25 PM (S7VTO)

327 And then they played Jen Psaki addressing the problem. Have no fear, Biden is here. She said that all Americans should not worry because Biden was using all the resources and expertise of the govt. to address these problems. Those on the East coast and the Southeast shouldn't worry because, direct quote, "the government is all over this."
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2021 05:23 PM (Mzdiz)
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PDT team versus the Biden team when it comes to emergency response.

I feel for the South and NE.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 11, 2021 05:25 PM (2SdPm)

328 last time that happened he stayed and asked for more
Posted by: runner at May 11, 2021 05:23 PM (V13WU)
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Trolls need to be evaluated on spec.

Let's see what you can do as a troll, then we pay you.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:25 PM (cI7Oj)

329 So the rub is "approve" vs. "authorize" for an emergency use authorization you can't have any therapeutics that work.

People hear from the Media constantly that its APPROVED for this or that. it isn't its an experimental emergency use authorization. PERIOD. It won't be approved until it finishes clinical trials sometime next year. All of them.
Posted by: its not his fault, they a gaslighting everyone at May 11, 2021 05:22 PM (79Rsc)

This is true, especially if you consider that when Chuck Todd asked Francis Collins, point-blank a couple of weeks ago on Meet The Press, about when the vaccine would be fully approved by the FDA, Collins didn't give an answer. This is why, while he strongly recommends that his employees at the NIH take the vaccine, he can't mandate that they do. It can't be mandated until/unless it's approved by the FDA.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2021 05:25 PM (hKTv8)

330 and in other news

Zimbabwean father, 66, with 16 wives and 151 children has a strict four-times-a-night sex schedule to keep his family growing

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:25 PM (bTQ72)

331 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2021 05:23 PM (Mzdiz)

I know I am filled with hope and pride in my government when a major piece of our energy infrastructure can be shut down by some neck beards doing a ransomware attack and our government can't do shit about it, despite god knows how many dollars invested in god knows how many intelligence and law enforcement agencies over the last 60+ years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (UPoLF)

332 It is recorded that in the days of our forefathers the invocation "Green" served to keep the trolls away.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (DMUuz)

333 Those on the East coast and the Southeast shouldn't worry because, direct quote, "the government is all over this."

I feel safer already.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (HaL55)

334 Zimbabwean father, 66, with 16 wives and 151 children has a strict four-times-a-night sex schedule to keep his family growing
Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:25 PM (bTQ72)

Man, he must eat a lot of sandwiches.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (UPoLF)

335 picked up kids at elementary school today

everyone but 20 kids or so and 3 parents had a mask on, outside ....
Posted by: will choose a nic later

And all the kids with masks, being taught to hate the kids without. Immeasurable psychological damage is being done to their generation. I pray that justice will be done to those responsible. And by justice I mean capital punishment.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (OssQ4)

336 "not worry because Biden was using all the resources and expertise of the govt. to address these problems."
I don't know about anybody else here but that is one of the most frightening things I have ever heard. Ten times that because it is Buydong's government.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (w5raC)

337 3
Fausti
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 04:15 PM (RbGzi)


THAT is a winner.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (s2VJv)

338 Same to you, Pixy.

I'm out.

Posted by: creeper at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (XxJt1)

339 I mean none of this really matters, nothing is approved for on label covid use anyways, and the FDA would just waive any requirements that got in the way of issuing the vaccines.

**

I thought it was neat how any six year old who thinks he's a girl can be prescribed whatever the doctor thought would help f*ck him up even more, but HCQ was borderline illegal if not actually illegal and making doctors and pharmacists lose their licenses.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (yK9py)

340 I've heard that tossed around twice here now. I've not seen any info confirming that.
Posted by: 4 at May 11, 2021 05:21 PM (KnJdm)
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I think the reason people are saying that is because Dr. Ryan Cole said that in that video that was on the sidebar a month or so ago. That's where I heard it, anyway.

Posted by: bluebell at May 11, 2021 05:27 PM (wyw4S)

341 Zimbabwean father, 66, with 16 wives and 151 children has a strict four-times-a-night sex schedule to keep his family growing
Posted by: will choose a nic later


Birthday presents must be a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:27 PM (OCTRt)

342 I know I am filled with hope and pride in my government when a major piece of our energy infrastructure can be shut down by some neck beards doing a ransomware attack and our government can't do shit about it, despite god knows how many dollars invested in god knows how many intelligence and law enforcement agencies over the last 60+ years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:26 PM (UPoLF)

.....

They are hot on the trail of that Granny that took selfies at the Capitol, so there is that.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 11, 2021 05:27 PM (YA914)

343 This is true, especially if you consider that when Chuck Todd asked Francis Collins, point-blank a couple of weeks ago on Meet The Press, about when the vaccine would be fully approved by the FDA, Collins didn't give an answer. This is why, while he strongly recommends that his employees at the NIH take the vaccine, he can't mandate that they do. It can't be mandated until/unless it's approved by the FDA.
==
and once it is approved, that's when you will get the vaccine passports and two tier citizenship.

Posted by: its not his fault, they are gaslighting everyone at May 11, 2021 05:27 PM (TzXwW)

344 Biden's idea to stop the Keystone Pipeline was another brilliant idea.

Biden is not even smart enough to screw up a wet dream.

Where is VP Horris lately ??? Awfully quiet ? Maybe her mouth is full ?

Posted by: James at May 11, 2021 05:27 PM (rWWna)

345
JJ, did you hear that former "actor" Fisher Stevens "regrets" his role as an indian in Short Circuit?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 05:28 PM (aqrfx)

346 Notice that the only one on this board that puts "hoax" directly with "virus" is a troll.

The response to the virus is the hoax, not the virus.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:28 PM (cI7Oj)

347 286 Serious question: If the above is true, why do we have flu vaccines routinely available each year? Is each year's vaccine given an emergency approval, or is there a carve-out for flu vaccines in the laws or FDA regulations?
Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:11 PM (AMIL/)

As I understand it, the vaccines have been around for a long time, they just guess which strain of flu will be prevalent in any given year and they give that one.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:15 PM (UPoLF)


I worded my question poorly, so here's another go: Are there no treatments for the flu? If there are, why are vaccines permitted and recommended by CDC each year?

Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:28 PM (AMIL/)

348 Did Ace forgot to post today's Quick Hits post?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 05:24 PM


After today's content, there probably won't be bats in the Cafe, either.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 11, 2021 05:28 PM (DMUuz)

349 They are hot on the trail of that Granny that took selfies at the Capitol, so there is that.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 11, 2021 05:27 PM (YA914)

That's true, at least the violent insurrectionists will be taken care of. Even if we have to go back to buying gasoline in Jerry Cans out of the back of a truck.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:29 PM (UPoLF)

350 know I am filled with hope and pride in my government when a major piece of our energy infrastructure can be shut down by some neck beards doing a ransomware attack and our government can't do shit about it,


Because Trump didn't have a plan.... Joe Biden has been coding night and day to reroute hacker traffic. This one slipped by while he was dealing with another crisis caused by Trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:29 PM (uBAt0)

351 Birthday presents must be a bitch.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:27 PM (OCTRt)
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The wives probably handle that. Imagine instead trying to keep all those wedding anniversaries straight.

Posted by: bluebell at May 11, 2021 05:29 PM (wyw4S)

352
After today's content, there probably won't be bats in the Cafe, either.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


You people expect teh bats every night.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (aqrfx)

353 I had an interesting conversation with one of my counterparts in San Diego about a month ago over drinks (yes, we were out for drinks in San Diego, it is possible).

The gist is that he is the most pro-vax person in the world, used to work medical military details in some of the world hot spots. Has had more vaccines than anyone, including for anthrax.

He won't get the vax because it was developed too fast. For context, we build space qualified hardware that has to be perfect. His statement was, "How many times have we built hardware that absolutely can't fail, only to see it fail on orbit? Let someone else go first."

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (5p7BC)

354 JJ, did you hear that former "actor" Fisher Stevens "regrets" his role as an indian in Short Circuit?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales

I regret my role as someone who paid to watch cinema.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (OssQ4)

355 Zimbabwe was better off when it was Rhodesia. In fact the whole African continent was better off. Communism fcuks up everything. Eventually.

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (0OP+5)

356 I worded my question poorly, so here's another go: Are there no treatments for the flu? If there are, why are vaccines permitted and recommended by CDC each year?
Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:28 PM (AMIL/)

There are. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

It's about the Emergency Use Authorization for the covid vaccine. Technically, EUA's are only supposed to be issued if there isn't already an FDA approved drug for that condition. Otherwise, the drug or vaccine has to go through the normal FDA approval process with clinical trials and whatnot.

In other words, pretty much all diseases / maladies / ailments / etc. have multiple FDA-approved drugs that could be used.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (UPoLF)

357 The Democ-Rats are just trying to protect their own corruption and their dark little secrets

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (FLiOE)

358 Zimbabwean father, 66, with 16 wives and 151 children has a strict four-times-a-night sex schedule to keep his family growing
Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:25 PM


Is he a 4-in-1 or a 1-in-4 kind of guy?

Posted by: Asking the important question at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (DMUuz)

359 memorze 151 kids names, stat!

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (bTQ72)

360 After today's content, there probably won't be bats in the Cafe, either.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

They're in Louisville.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at May 11, 2021 05:31 PM (vcOmj)

361 That's true, at least the violent insurrectionists will be taken care of. Even if we have to go back to buying gasoline in Jerry Cans out of the back of a truck.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:29 PM (UPoLF)

.....

Insurrectionists can't storm the Capitol if they can't drive there.

Very proactive by the new regime....er....I mean administration.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 11, 2021 05:31 PM (YA914)

362 Y'all realize lick is a troll, right?

THIS time I caught on SMH! lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2021 05:31 PM (nxdel)

363 The Colonial Pipeline attack was a test run..........

Posted by: James at May 11, 2021 05:31 PM (rWWna)

364 I am sure the Enbridge lobbyists will pay off the right people and be allowed to keep the pipeline open. This is a shakedown, pure and simple.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:31 PM (uBAt0)

365 "wives"..more like concubines proly

Posted by: runner at May 11, 2021 05:32 PM (V13WU)

366

nood

wqiuck hits

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 11, 2021 05:32 PM (aqrfx)

367 statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. Taking into consideration input from the FDA, manufacturers decide whether and when to submit an EUA request to FDA." From the FDA.

Posted by: Nova local


Sounds like what they've been saying.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:24 PM (OCTRt)

No, b/c nothing is approved to treat Covid-19. It's a NEW illness. All of the suggested alternatives (HCQ, invermectin, etc) were NEVER approved officially for use in this disease, and probably not even for generic corona viruses (although that, I'd have to check). So, their use would require their own EUA pursuit, or they stay off-label, and not in play for being in the way of preventing EUA for the vax.

Posted by: Nova local at May 11, 2021 05:32 PM (b1h2x)

368 Zimbabwe is better than the way we had.

Posted by: Axeman at May 11, 2021 05:32 PM (cI7Oj)

369 lol Jewells!

Now if only the others would...

Posted by: SMH at May 11, 2021 05:32 PM (wparq)

370 Zimbabwe was better off when it was Rhodesia. In fact the whole African
continent was better off. Communism fcuks up everything. Eventually.

Here hold my beer.

Posted by: Black Communists at May 11, 2021 05:32 PM (w5raC)

371 memorze 151 kids names, stat!
Posted by: will choose a nic later


Well, George Forman named all his boys....George.

See, what an easy technique that was.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at May 11, 2021 05:32 PM (vcOmj)

372 His statement was, "How many times have we built
hardware that absolutely can't fail, only to see it fail on orbit? Let
someone else go first."

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM

Technology always fails, always. It's just a matter of time.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 11, 2021 05:32 PM (JUOKG)

373 Ooh. Inger Stevens in a "Twilight Zone."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:33 PM (xopIz)

374 I worded my question poorly, so here's another go: Are there no treatments for the flu? If there are, why are vaccines permitted and recommended by CDC each year?
Posted by: Gref


A real vaccine keeps you from contracting a disease. Smallpox, measles, mumps rubella, flu, etc.
Vaccine. Not treatment. Treatment is for after catching a disease.
There are no other treatments that I know of that keeps you from contracting the flu other than the shot.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2021 05:33 PM (OCTRt)

375 memorze 151 kids names, stat!
Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (bTQ72)

I have a solution!

Posted by: George Foreman at May 11, 2021 05:33 PM (JVUo0)

376 373 I am sure the Enbridge lobbyists will pay off the right people and be allowed to keep the pipeline open. This is a shakedown, pure and simple.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:31 PM (uBAt0)

Yeah, the government is claiming is regular old ransomware. You know, they find some zero day vulnerability in your unsecured Windows 7 computer and take it over and say "give us 1 bitcoin or we'll delete all your files."

And of course a major pipeline company is about as insecure as grandma's Acer laptop. Because why wouldn't it be?

But to be fair, colleges, police departments, etc. have been fit with similar attacks.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:33 PM (UPoLF)

377 365 I worded my question poorly, so here's another go: Are there no treatments for the flu? If there are, why are vaccines permitted and recommended by CDC each year?
Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:28 PM (AMIL/)

There are. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

It's about the Emergency Use Authorization for the covid vaccine. Technically, EUA's are only supposed to be issued if there isn't already an FDA approved drug for that condition. Otherwise, the drug or vaccine has to go through the normal FDA approval process with clinical trials and whatnot.

In other words, pretty much all diseases / maladies / ailments / etc. have multiple FDA-approved drugs that could be used.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 11, 2021 05:30 PM (UPoLF)


Then a blanket assertion that vaccines are not allowed, covered by insurance, approved, whatever, when there is an effective treatment available, is incorrect?

Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:33 PM (AMIL/)

378 SOOTH
QUICK HITS NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at May 11, 2021 05:34 PM (Cxk7w)

379 Whitmers husband will start an energy consulting business and get paid several million to consult enbridge on anchor strike mitigation, despite having no experience with pipelines or anchors.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, not a DHS informant at May 11, 2021 05:34 PM (uBAt0)

380 In primitive cultures, the wives and children are that man's slaves.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:34 PM (xopIz)

381 I read that in one of Will Durant's histories.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 11, 2021 05:34 PM (xopIz)

382 All the numbers shifted. Looks like the troll is momentarily gone.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 11, 2021 05:35 PM (5p7BC)

383 memorze 151 kids names, stat!
Posted by: will choose a nic later

******

George!

/George Foreman

Posted by: Muldoon at May 11, 2021 05:35 PM (Fc5rx)

384 I worded my question poorly, so here's another go: Are there no treatments for the flu? If there are, why are vaccines permitted and recommended by CDC each year?
==
Here's what you are struggling with. THe flu vac are not emergency use authorizations. They are approved, safe and effective and clinical trials, yearly variants not withstanding. They aren't designer MRNA vax's which aren't really vac's. They are dead or attenuated virus, so its not experimental. Its been around since smallpox vaccine. The MRNA version is totes experimental. That's not the flu vax. Frankly its not a vax at all. Whether or not there are other treatments for the flu does not matter because the flue vax is approved. Decades of experience with them. Safety data available. No so much for MRNA vax.

There is a difference between "approval" multi year process with clinical trials and data and authorized for emergency use. They don't re trial flu vax every year since its only a variant not a whole new disease. This is not so much a new disease, but the MRNA is new.

There are treatments for flu. Pretty recent - Tamiflu. Etc.

Posted by: its not his fault, they are gaslighting everyone at May 11, 2021 05:35 PM (8zF4t)

385 There is a difference between treatments, cures, and prevention (vaccines)

Posted by: Muldoon at May 11, 2021 05:36 PM (Fc5rx)

386 and in other news

Zimbabwean father, 66, with 16 wives and 151 children has a strict four-times-a-night sex schedule to keep his family growing
Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 11, 2021 05:25 PM (bTQ72)

Yatahe!

Posted by: Little Big Man at May 11, 2021 05:37 PM (4I/2K)

387 385 There is a difference between treatments, cures, and prevention (vaccines)
Posted by: Muldoon at May 11, 2021 05:36 PM (Fc5rx)

This is a point that I would like to learn more about, because it's quite possible (what am I talking about - it's highly likely) that my assertions haven't taken this into account (HCQ vs 'the Moderna').

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2021 05:40 PM (hKTv8)

388
Then a blanket assertion that vaccines are not allowed, covered by insurance, approved, whatever, when there is an effective treatment available, is incorrect?

==
Sheesh.

If the FDA is giving an EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION, there has to be no effective alternative treatment.

If it is already approved, that means there have been sufficient clinical trials and data on safety collected and it made it out of committee and was blessed. APPROVAL takes maybe years.

The typical yearly flu vax is not an MRNA designed in a lab, gimcrack that builds a special protein in your body. It is a bit of the virus, killed, or weakend and then injected into your body so your immune system will recognize the virus and kill it, which I can be cause its dead or already dying when they inject you. It then keeps the "wanted poster" for that virus so if it sees it again, it jumps it before it can replicate and make you sick.

Your flu vax is approved. COvid Jabs are Emergency Use Authorized only.

Posted by: its not his fault, they are gaslighting everyone at May 11, 2021 05:41 PM (qWF52)

389 Enbridge told investors on its call today that it isn't shutting down its pipeline, for what it's worth.

Posted by: the dandy at May 11, 2021 05:42 PM (cLNTv)

390 385 There is a difference between treatments, cures, and prevention (vaccines)

Posted by: Muldoon at May 11, 2021 05:36 PM (Fc5rx)



Yeah, and because this is a Smart Military Blog, I'm trying to determine if the assertion, that the US Gov't does not approve a vaccine when effective treatments for a disease are available, is correct. This assertion has been posted in comments on more threads than this one recently.

Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2021 05:43 PM (AMIL/)

391 I would get altering viruses we already have a handle on, to make a boilerplate vaccine that can possibly be altered based on what new threats show up, but taking a deadly virus that has no known connection to humans and allowing it so it can infect us seems a bit dubious.

The CIA and other intelligence agencies for decades have been trying to create viruses that attack specific DNA holders and can't be cured, this altering of new viruses to be able to attack humans seems like another one if thier plans (and like all things CIA they again failed miserably.....or did they)

Posted by: Rbastid at May 11, 2021 06:46 PM (gZevz)

392 Can we callz it the Fauci Flu?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 11, 2021 08:43 PM (9dzlp)

393 If this is true then Trump was on a level of cluelessness and incompetence far beyond that imagined by his enemies.

Posted by: B Moe at May 12, 2021 01:06 AM (lxioR)

394 Why didn't Trump stop that funding ?

Posted by: Kurt at May 12, 2021 05:45 AM (p09y2)

395 Probably we funded so that we can observe what the Chinese are doing

Posted by: Kurt at May 12, 2021 05:46 AM (p09y2)

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