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HGK Quarantine1.jpg

The graphic is not too far from the reality in Hong Kong, which is suffering draconian social control in the guise of preventing widespread Wuhan flu infection.

And in this country, primarily in the blue states we have armies of Karen's ruthlessly enforcing offensive "emergency" regulations designed to control our behavior for the same amorphous goal...controlling a viral disease that is probably ubiquitous and empirically with about the same mortality and morbidity as a bad seasonal flu. And more disturbing, much less dangerous than other diseases that are allowed to run rampant in our country. Think back to the 1980s, when AIDS was uncontrollable, but the powers-that-be, in particular Anthony Fauci, refused to use proven public health methods to isolate carriers of the disease, and in fact allowed them to infect the nation's blood supply, which condemned to death thousands of hemophiliacs.

So spare me the tired and easily refuted claim that our current situation is simply a scientific response to a dangerous disease. Similar responses to dangerous situations would never be accepted, and would trigger immediate and appropriate legal responses. Just imagine if Fredo The Elder (Andrew Cuomo) announced that until the murder rate in the worst precincts in NYC dropped to the background level of the rest of the country, all people above a certain age were subject to search for weapons. Or that policemen would be posted in every supermarket to search all morbidly overweight people for prohibited foods.

Those are ridiculous and unacceptable examples of government overreach, yet we are currently tolerating similar insults to our rights, and looming on the horizon are even more insidious measures. Vaccine passports, segregation of the vaccinated from the unvaccinated, and many more degradations of our rights as free people are coming, and soon.

How different is a vaccine passport compared to the yellow star of Nazi Germany, or a letter from the Red Guards allowing travel to the cities, or an ID card allowing one entrance into a communist party food store in Moscow?

The advent of incredibly fast computers, completely interconnected, and vast databases that can be accessed from literally anywhere with a cellular connection makes the Nazis and the Soviets and the Chinese communists mere dilettantes compared to the current surveillance state.

Papers could be forged...badges could be manufactured...the authorities could be evaded (at least for a time). But how many of us have the technical knowledge and skills to evade a vaccine passport requirement? Or avoid being tracked with our cell phones and internet log-ons and electronic toll systems and credit cards and facial recognition systems and license plate readers and on and on and on.

We are in the midst of a profound shift to authoritarian rule, but this time the tools available to those in power are orders of magnitude more powerful than even the infamous East German Ministry For State Security had!

The dystopian novels of the past predicted exactly this, but they were warnings...and we ignored them.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 I know thedrill

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:00 AM (Cxk7w)

2 Mothers>Mommy State.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 09, 2021 11:02 AM (U2p+3)

3 It's been said there is no need for a gulag nowadays, a virtual house arrest by denying work, communication and travel is all possible.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:03 AM (Cxk7w)

4 When you accept the reason for the lockdowns is not medical it all makes sense, it make it no more pleasant but it does make it logical.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2021 11:03 AM (Lzpvj)

5 Only question is will the population go quietly or will it stand up to tyranny?

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:04 AM (Cxk7w)

6 3 Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:03 AM (Cxk7w)

If we inflicted these restrictions on a conquered nation it would correctly be called "genocidal intent."

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2021 11:05 AM (Lzpvj)

7 You know who else created society of informers ?

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:05 AM (V13WU)

8 'Sup! Tha' lil' puddin head baby got her letter from school a couple of weeks ago, saying she had to have proof of vaccination to enroll for the fall semester.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 09, 2021 11:06 AM (AL0d+)

9 For the many lockdown protests in Europe I have yet to see one here like that.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:08 AM (Cxk7w)

10 It's especially neat how we're seeing it progress in the US, when this is apparently still the official/accepted means of determining potential transmission per the CDC and has been for over a year:

"Individual who has had close contact (within 6 feet for a total of 15 minutes or more)"

https://tinyurl.com/6w6c2w5d

It's terrifying to understand that we've thrown actual science completely out the window, and the majority of the population - up to and including college educated and doctoral level individuals - are completely okay with it because they're caught up in the mass hysteria and deferring to authority.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 09, 2021 11:08 AM (XTk1T)

11 Went out to eat at an Eyetie place not far from me.

The only masked fools were the dozen or so old farts going in or out who should know better.

What Daniel Day said....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 09, 2021 11:09 AM (R/m4+)

12 she had to have proof of vaccination to enroll for the fall semester.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 09, 2021 11:06 AM (AL0d+)

Are there religious or health waivers available?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2021 11:09 AM (Q9lwr)

13 I always believed the WuFlu was released to shut down the Hong Kong protests. I also believe China has given financial support to Antifa /BLM as revenge for the USA support of the Hong Kong protests.

Posted by: Can't help myself at May 09, 2021 11:10 AM (2DOZq)

14 How different is a vaccine passport compared to the yellow star of Nazi Germany, or a letter from the Red Guards allowing travel to the cities, or an ID card allowing one entrance into a communist party food store in Moscow?

If it saves just one life. Stay safe.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 09, 2021 11:10 AM (W4eKo)

15 Skip @5.
This nails it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:10 AM (axyOa)

16 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 09, 2021 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

17 she had to have proof of vaccination to enroll for the fall semester.

***

IIRC vaccines are FDA approved, and it's impossible to receive proof of vaccination for the COVIDs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 09, 2021 11:11 AM (XTk1T)

18
Too many people think the government is looking out for the best intersts of the country.

People who go into "public service" are no better human material than those who work for corporations but their potential reach and the damage they can do is much greater.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 11:11 AM (mht8P)

19 Happy Mother's Day to all the moms.

Not the muthas, tho.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 09, 2021 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

20 If you're vaccinated, and your vaccination works, it doesn't matter one tiny little bit to your health if anyone else if vaccinated.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 09, 2021 11:12 AM (XTk1T)

21 It doesn't matter that all the studies on masking have reported the same thing: Masks are not effective at stopping the spread of the Wuflu and in fact, are better at increasing upper respiratory infections.
In AZ the Gov and head nurse 'Chris' (something or other) keep the mask mandate and use the local TV channels to spread their propaganda.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 09, 2021 11:12 AM (uyM8s)

22 Are there religious or health waivers available?

I didn't ask her. She's in med school, so she's had to be vaxed to do her hospital work.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 09, 2021 11:13 AM (AL0d+)

23 Only question is will the population go quietly or will it stand up to tyranny?
Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:04 AM (Cxk7w)

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There's a not insignificant chunk of the population that will not only go along with it, but happily help enforce it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2021 11:14 AM (kTF2Z)

24 Asian hate? Y'mean like Filipinos giving me the stink eye for maskless bicycle riding on a sunny day?

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at May 09, 2021 11:14 AM (bwVNm)

25 Heard 2 old guys who appeared not to know each other behind me both were saying they were done with mask charade.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:15 AM (Cxk7w)

26 Scallops and lobster tail for Mrs. Aspirin Factory tonight.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 09, 2021 11:15 AM (89T5c)

27 Average mask = 3 microns.

Covid-19 = .3 microns.


You do the math, just not on this blog.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 09, 2021 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

28 People who go into "public service" are no better human material than those who work for corporations but their potential reach and the damage they can do is much greater.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 11:11 AM (mht8P)


And those that do go into public service (except those who's mommy's and daddy's are already there grabbing the graft) are NOT from the top of their classes. My little towns attorney is an idiot. And the town engineer is hopeless.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:16 AM (axyOa)

29 Heard 2 old guys who appeared not to know each other behind me both were saying they were done with mask charade.
Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:15 AM (Cxk7w)


I'm starting to see more and more of the olds roaming around without masks on.

Makes me smile.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 09, 2021 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

30 How different is a vaccine passport compared to the yellow star of Nazi Germany

They're technically opposite, aren't they? Those of us who refuse the experiment are the ones who are going to be denied Rights (or what the compliant view as 'privileges').

Posted by: Methos at May 09, 2021 11:18 AM (kOpft)

31 Happy Moms Day to all youse ladies!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:18 AM (axyOa)

32 It's been not-so-subtly implied that I am not welcome in a family member's home until I have been jabbed. Not going to happen, so yet another family divided by this hysteria. *spits*

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 09, 2021 11:18 AM (W4eKo)

33 Yeah I don't see any way out of this trajectory we're in, this side of incredible disaster.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2021 11:18 AM (KZzsI)

34 Heard 2 old guys who appeared not to know each other behind me both were saying they were done with mask charade.

*

This is key.

It's up to people to stop wearing the masks. The government won't give them permission. And when one freedom-curious person sees another person being free, he'll try it, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:19 AM (O3VVw)

35 10 states have banned vaccine passports and yesterday's news said interest in getting the vaccine has waned. IMO, they'll make another push to enforce compliance thru schools, jobs and travel but then the lawsuits challenging those restrictions will start.

Posted by: LASue at May 09, 2021 11:19 AM (Ed8Zd)

36 31 Happy Moms Day to all youse ladies!
---------
Happy Mother's day to all the mothers who've done so much to love, help, and cherish us through the years. Thanks Mom!

Posted by: exdem13 at May 09, 2021 11:19 AM (W+kMI)

37 My little towns attorney is an idiot. And the town engineer is hopeless.

*

Ah yes, diversity is our greatest strength.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:20 AM (O3VVw)

38 Positive trend anecdotally over the last 3 Saturdays running along SoCal beaches:
4/24 (PM) - 50% masked outdoors (at beach)
5/1 (AM) - 25% masked outdoors (at beach)
5/8 (AM) - 20% masked outdoors (at beach)

I count as I run; the sample size each time is about 200 people. And our neighbors had a large gathering in their house last night (grad celebration for daughter). We didn't go and it was still glorious to see... cars parked up and down the block. No Karen called to complain (as far as I know).

The elites WANT to continue the tyranny; I'm not so sure the masses will let them...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2021 11:20 AM (pcsoT)

39 For the many lockdown protests in Europe I have yet to see one here like that.

There was that one in Michigan where folks showed up, with arms, and got inside the capitol. Then the BLMtifa riots took off and our side stopped showing up for the most part.

Posted by: Methos at May 09, 2021 11:20 AM (kOpft)

40 The wife works at a private university. We've alreaxy decided that if they tell her she has to get the needle, she's gonna turn in her notice and we'll be looking for a lawyer.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 09, 2021 11:21 AM (AL0d+)

41 Ponder this.

The word vaccination came from Jenner's (Edward not Bruce) use of cowpox inoculum to provoke an immune response against the much deadlier smallpox. Vaccine comes from the Latin vaccina, pertaining to a cow. Now the public is being cowed into mandatory vaccination against COwVID. And internet rumors abound concerning the growth of a horn from your forehead after getting the Pfizer poke. A cow poke, if you will...

Whoa, man. Circles within circles.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:22 AM (Fc5rx)

42
About the only place I've worn a mask recently is to church. The 7:00 AM Mass I go to is for "at-risk" parishoners but none of the other four Sunday Masses require them, nor do any of the weekday Masses. But I expect the requirement for even this one will be dropped soon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 11:22 AM (mht8P)

43 The wife works at a private university. We've alreaxy decided that if they tell her she has to get the needle, she's gonna turn in her notice and we'll be looking for a lawyer.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 09, 2021 11:21 AM (AL0d+)

At the local university where I don't teach anymore, they announced that they plan to resume classes in the Fall. Vaccination is required for students, optional for faculty and staff.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:25 AM (axyOa)

44 40 The wife works at a private university. We've alreaxy decided that if they tell her she has to get the needle, she's gonna turn in her notice and we'll be looking for a lawyer.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 09, 2021 11:21 AM (AL0d+)

Reverse that trajectory. The lawyer will be the most difficult to obtain (unless you have a "medical sob story" that he/she can sell), so you want to make sure you have one in hand before you take the step, not after.

Lawyers have seen what happens when they step out of line in the Chauvin case, and if you don't think that has a chilling effect on what they are willing to step out on with little possibility of any real payoff...well...again, I've said previously that those who want to avoid the vaccine need to fund a group of lawyers independently who don't have to worry where their next job will come from, and just need to worry about trying a case (notice, I didn't say win it, b/c that's also gonna be very, very hard in the current environment)...this is what homeschoolers did when homeschooling wasn't popular, and it has worked, and worked greatly.

PS - Maybe the ACLU used to be this lawyer set, but it's obviously not now...

Posted by: Nova local at May 09, 2021 11:25 AM (b1h2x)

45 Muldoon:

https://tinyurl.com/yk6mxdva

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 09, 2021 11:26 AM (WGara)

46 Vaccination is required for students, optional for faculty and staff.

*

Ah, Science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:26 AM (O3VVw)

47 The wife works at a private university. We've alreaxy decided that if they tell her she has to get the needle, she's gonna turn in her notice and we'll be looking for a lawyer.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 09, 2021 11:21 AM (AL0d+)

It may be better to make them fire her, but you might want to discuss this with a lawyer beforehand.

Posted by: LASue at May 09, 2021 11:26 AM (Ed8Zd)

48 Now the public is being cowed into mandatory vaccination against COwVID. And internet rumors abound concerning the growth of a horn from your forehead after getting the Pfizer poke. A cow poke, if you will...

Whoa, man. Circles within circles.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:22 AM


So. Herd immunity is real!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:26 AM (axyOa)

49
So. Herd immunity is real!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:26 AM (axyOa)

________

Where are they trying to steer us?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 11:27 AM (mht8P)

50 Herd immunity existed before this silliness even started. When 85% of the population is naturally immune, and 85% of that remaining population has to be told that they are sick...

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:27 AM (O3VVw)

51 Vaccination is required for students, optional for faculty and staff.


The people making the rules insist that everyone else take the risk.

Posted by: Methos at May 09, 2021 11:28 AM (kOpft)

52 You wanted Brave New World
You would settle for 1984
You got The Gular Archipelagos

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:28 AM (yrol0)

53 I could offer up my opinion about COVID vaccination, and the government's proper role in that process, but the short form blog comment construct is not the best way to get into it. Better a couple three hours over a couple three adult beverages.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:28 AM (Fc5rx)

54 The wife works at a private university. We've alreaxy decided that if they tell her she has to get the needle, she's gonna turn in her notice and we'll be looking for a lawyer.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Insomniac is a lawyer.

And he ain't doin' nuthin' these days.......

Posted by: JT at May 09, 2021 11:29 AM (arJlL)

55 And the town engineer is hopeless.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:16 AM (axyOa)

Ours is unbelievably rigid and stupid. I think it is the main requirement for the job.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2021 11:29 AM (42i16)

56 I refuse.

Whatever it is, I refuse.

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 09, 2021 11:29 AM (iTXRQ)

57 About a year ago I lost my mom. She and my dad were living in a retirement community in North Carolina. Early May 2020 was when there was some seriously fucked up shit going on and many states were completely shut down. I remember driving from Kentucky to her place in Burlington, NC. The interstates were nearly empty... even the ubiquitous semi's were gone. It was surreal and a bit freaky. I have the photos.

Flash forward to today. Some states haven't gotten out of that mindset, a fucking year (and more) later. There are some completely broken individuals who will never be free of COVID hysteria... ever.

My point here is that the retirement community where my folks used to live is STILL using visitor protocols from a year ago. Masks, take your temperature, social distancing and I need to be "pre screened" to go visit their burial site.

What in the absolute fuck is wrong with these people?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2021 11:30 AM (3H9h1)

58 Can you appeal to the vaccine boards for death or illness for the China Flu vax?

PS Death toll now approaching 5000.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:30 AM (yrol0)

59 I am going to donate my vaccine to some poor child living in a third-world shit hole.

How many virtue signalling points do I get for that?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 09, 2021 11:30 AM (ju2Fy)

60 Around here (rural southern AZ) the masks are getting scarcer. Corporate owned places may require them but locally owned places don't. It's becoming more of a political affiliation symbol than anything else. Except for some of the very elderly, who you still might see driving in their cars with the windows up wearing one. Probably a result of watching the TV a lot and still believing in its general truthfulness like 50 years ago when the general view of big media was that it might have a lefty bias but it wouldn't tell complete whoppers.

Posted by: azjaeger at May 09, 2021 11:30 AM (3/XaG)

61 You got The Gular Archipelagos
Posted by: rhennigantx

I do not !

I wore a condom !

Posted by: JT at May 09, 2021 11:30 AM (arJlL)

62 Better a couple three hours over a couple three adult beverages.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:28 AM (Fc5rx)

I headed to Pluckers on 145 in Webster now. Ill buy the first 2 rounds.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:31 AM (yrol0)

63 Do any states still require a VD test before issuing a marriage license?

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 09, 2021 11:31 AM (QZxDR)

64 The story is now taught as stressing that the west has no right to inflict civilization.

-
Civilization!
Uh!
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothin'!
Say it again.

Posted by: Edwin Starr at May 09, 2021 11:31 AM (VVEnO)

65 Do any states still require a VD test before issuing a marriage license?

==


valid driverslicence?

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:32 AM (V13WU)

66 61 You got The Gular Archipelagos
Posted by: rhennigantx

I do not !

I wore a condom !
Posted by: JT at May 09, 2021 11:30 AM (arJlL)

HIV virus about 10x to 100x smaller than the membrane of a latex condom. Your fucked!

PS Gulag Gulag Gulag

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:32 AM (yrol0)

67 "And in this country, primarily in the blue states we have armies of Karen's ruthlessly enforcing offensive "emergency" regulations designed to control our behavior for the same amorphous goal...controlling a viral disease that is probably ubiquitous and empirically with about the same mortality and morbidity as a bad seasonal flu."

The Democrat-Media Complex put the fear of death into them - the fear of a nearly unavoidable death by disease. The politicians then tried to ease the fear they created, by doing something visible, even if useless: Masks and Social Distancing.

Then the Blue Area politicians soon cowardly realized that they needed to keep-up the useless fear-reducing measures, lest they be defeated in the next election. Defeated by a politician who won the Karen vote, saying untold thousands died - and you're next - because the Governor eased the mask and social distancing measures too soon. Because there is NO DATA to prove or disprove that non-N95 or better masks reduce infection rate. Fear is their campaign weapon. So here we are, in a country totally messed-up by Karens and by fear-mongering politicians who are also cowards and on a control-trip.

Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2021 11:32 AM (AMIL/)

68 Muldoon:

https://tinyurl.com/yk6mxdva
Posted by: Captain Obvious


****

I love that picture. Very mooving!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:32 AM (Fc5rx)

69 63 Do any states still require a VD test before issuing a marriage license?
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 09, 2021 11:31 AM (QZxDR)

Texas dropped by 1984 when I got my first marriage contract.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:33 AM (yrol0)

70 @53
The vaccines are bullshit and the world reached herd immunity in June/July of last year, now we're just chicken fucking "cases."

How's that for brevity?

Or alternatively..

This was all a scam and op from jump street.

The fact that the scientific and medical community allowed themselves to be sucked into the Op is frightening.

But here we are 15 months later and no end in sight.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2021 11:34 AM (IZ4ib)

71 "20 If you're vaccinated, and your vaccination works, it doesn't matter one tiny little bit to your health if anyone else if vaccinated.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 09, 2021 11:12 AM (XTk1T)"

From a very general standpoint, this is not only not true, it's also an exceptionally retarded talking point. Vaccines that work require a certain % of penetration into the population to dampen transmission to/between those who don't have it AND for those where it wasn't effective or has worn off.

But here is the thing: these rushed vaccines suck, to the point of being marginally useful - if at all - for preventing transmission. Their purpose isn't to work, it's to (1) help justify a framework for app-based social credit systems and (2) support blatantly stupid talking points - like yours here - that they've seeded with sock puppets.

The non-left is consistently dropping the ball when it comes to understanding what the left is actually doing here, and how. Recognize the real threats.

Posted by: somedood at May 09, 2021 11:34 AM (BRmwW)

72 Why would I need papers when they can just fire a chip into your brainpan?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 09, 2021 11:35 AM (2goRJ)

73 But here we are 15 months later and no end in sight.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2021 11:34 AM (IZ4ib)

25% of people think masked are needed forever.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:35 AM (yrol0)

74 So. Herd immunity is real!
Posted by: Diogenes


*****

Touché

Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:36 AM (Fc5rx)

75 Wanna play games?
Fine.

A fake Covid card will be available on the internet soon, from the same good folks that now sell college kids fake ID's.

It's how capitalism works, silly government.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 09, 2021 11:36 AM (sy5kK)

76 I am going to donate my vaccine to some poor child living in a third-world shit hole.

How many virtue signalling points do I get for that?
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 09, 2021 11:30 AM (ju2Fy)

According to the Official Virtue Signaling Point Card, that's worth 40 VS Points; triple points if you wear a mask while announcing your donation, and quadruple points if you also berate 5 maskless people.

Posted by: LASue at May 09, 2021 11:36 AM (Ed8Zd)

77 To be clear - you really *do not* want to get any of these jabs, for a number of specific reasons; the active elements they're using for antibody formation are some of the most harmful parts of the actual virus. But don't fall into the trap of parroting the sock-puppeted stupid arguments against them.

Posted by: somedood at May 09, 2021 11:36 AM (BRmwW)

78 This ain't nothin' when compared with the future. They will try to control and enact laws to do so and then when those laws are universally ignored they will either hire those that they will vet for the correct attitude to police and arrest those who do not comply and/or enable more and more robotic objects to perform more of the observation and identification (with the misidentification that machinery can bring) and their expansion of use for actual arrest and seizure and home invasion. Ultimately they will be armed. At first with non lethal means (holding people for live police to come and arrest) then actual lethal means if they manage to escape.

Probably a lot of illegals will be formed into companies of unarmed surveillance troops then expanded to actual arrest, seizure and armed confrontation. Why illegals? They will be glad for the job at very high pay. They already have lived under regimes much more restrictive than the US and are not used to the assumption of rights that citizens do since birth. Sure there will be some who won't go along but there's millions to choose from and their politics and loyalty will be towards the state.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 11:36 AM (dLws2)

79 63 Do any states still require a VD test before issuing a marriage license?
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 09, 2021 11:31 AM (QZxDR)

https:// www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/ chart-state-marriage-license- blood-29019.html

Yes - blood tests are required for DC and Mississippi (both), Montana (women only), and NY (kinda - for African American and Hispanic only for sickle cell)

Posted by: Nova local at May 09, 2021 11:36 AM (b1h2x)

80 Wanna play games?
Fine.

A fake Covid card will be available on the internet soon, from the same good folks that now sell college kids fake ID's.

It's how capitalism works, silly government.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 09, 2021 11:36 AM (sy5kK)

I may or may not already have a few.

Posted by: LASue at May 09, 2021 11:37 AM (Ed8Zd)

81 I am going to donate my vaccine to some poor child living in a third-world shit hole.
======================
I like telling people I'm in the control group not getting the vaccine.
Also, we were on a Zoom call w/this German Company we're doing biz with. They're ALL IN on the hysteria. The one guy mentioned he was getting his second shot later in the week. I *almost* said, yeah, I had my second shot Thursday night at Billy G's. Closely followed by my third and forth...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 09, 2021 11:37 AM (7Fj9P)

82 Been wanting to read Gulag Archipelago again

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:37 AM (Cxk7w)

83 When I ask fearful people if they believe the government has their best interests at heart they never have an answer.

Posted by: Northern lurker at May 09, 2021 11:38 AM (cSyAR)

84 "Average mask = 3 microns. Covid-19 = .3 microns."

They say Covid can be carried aerosolized form, which is one micron or maybe less. I'm fairly certain it is also carried in "suspension" ... which would be larger droplets. I don't know that the virus survives alone in the air.


BUT perhaps (just a conspiracy theory on how they are actually spreading the virus via masks) having the little droplets (from someone infected, screaming at someone not wearing a mask) fall to the ground would be safer than aerosolizing those Covid droplets by forcing them through a mask?

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2021 11:39 AM (Cus5s)

85 Dood. Swing and a miss.

Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench at May 09, 2021 11:40 AM (uFCZe)

86 25% of people think masked are needed forever.
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My jaw dropped when I heard Oregon was considering a *permanent* mandate.
And that was not in Babylon Bee.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 09, 2021 11:40 AM (7Fj9P)

87 I went shopping at the nearby tourist trap town last week. 6 out of the 8 stores I visited did not require masks. In fact, two of the no-mask stores had employees who went on a rant about the whole Covid thing being of de debil.


One of the two yes-mask stores had a sign that read something like "We would love to have you shop with us. We respect your right not to wear a mask, but out of courtesy we ask that you do." I thought that was fine.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2021 11:41 AM (45fpk)

88 @73

Well at least half of this country is completely out of their fucking minds, so 25 pct is actually less than I would have expected.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2021 11:41 AM (IZ4ib)

89 From a very general standpoint, this is not only not true, it's also an exceptionally retarded talking point. Vaccines that work require a certain % of penetration into the population to dampen transmission to/between those who don't have it AND for those where it wasn't effective or has worn off.

*

Not at all.

Beyond the vast majority of the population being clearly naturally immune to this cold virus, if the president can take his mask off when visiting elderly people who don't reside in his household, it's because the vaccine works.

We're post actual science. We can only use their Science against them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:41 AM (O3VVw)

90 NY (kinda - for African American and Hispanic only for sickle cell)
=========================
I'm shocked that some ACLU type hasn't challenged that becauseraciss.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 09, 2021 11:42 AM (7Fj9P)

91 Second look at Putin for president?

MOSCOW (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin marked the anniversary of the end of World War II in Europe with a speech warning that Nazi beliefs remain strong.

Speaking to the annual military parade on Moscow's Red Square, Putin on Sunday decried "attempts to rewrite history, to justify traitors and criminals, on whose hands lies the blood of hundreds of thousands of peaceful people."

"Unfortunately, many of the ideologies of the Nazis, those who were obsessed with the delusional theory of their exclusiveness, are again trying to be put into service," he said, without citing specifics.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 09, 2021 11:43 AM (VVEnO)

92 Tales of sciencey hypocrisy once again:

My parish has set aside a section of the church for those that don't give two shits about social distancing. It was full this morning. BUT, they still only allow seating in every other pew.

Person immediately to your left or right? - Safe!!

Person a bit farther away either behind or in front of you? - Not Safe!!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2021 11:44 AM (Rvt88)

93 And the town engineer is hopeless.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:16 AM (axyOa)

Ours is unbelievably rigid and stupid. I think it is the main requirement for the job.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2021 11:29 AM (42i16)

It's like they know they are lacking so they put up this facade. We had a big sewer issue last year. A guy in our HOA was a real engineer and his smack down of the city guy was epic.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:44 AM (axyOa)

94 ok, here is brilliant idea - open states, states that done away with mask mandates should forbid visitors from states that are mask nazis. You hear that Florida ?

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:44 AM (V13WU)

95 that should cut down on brawl at airports for one

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:44 AM (V13WU)

96 Happy Mother's Day to all the horde moms.

Remembering me dear old Mum (pbuh) 1935-2018.

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 09, 2021 11:45 AM (iTXRQ)

97 MOSCOW (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin marked the anniversary of the end of World War II in Europe with a speech warning that Nazi beliefs remain strong.

Speaking to the annual military parade on Moscow's Red Square, Putin on Sunday decried "attempts to rewrite history, to justify traitors and criminals, on whose hands lies the blood of hundreds of thousands of peaceful people."

"Unfortunately, many of the ideologies of the Nazis, those who were obsessed with the delusional theory of their exclusiveness, are again trying to be put into service," he said, without citing specifics.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 09, 2021 11:43 AM (VVEnO)

Red Storm Rising

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 09, 2021 11:45 AM (kuGco)

98 "Unfortunately, many of the ideologies of the Nazis, those who were obsessed with the delusional theory of their exclusiveness, are again trying to be put into service," he said, without citing specifics.

==

who did he mean?

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:46 AM (V13WU)

99 se Pa is still mask country, even single person walking a dog wears one more often than not.
Sheeple

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:46 AM (Cxk7w)

100 From a very general standpoint, this is not only not true, it's also an exceptionally retarded talking point. Vaccines that work require a certain % of penetration into the population to dampen transmission to/between those who don't have it AND for those where it wasn't effective or has worn off.

Posted by: somedood at May 09, 2021 11:34 AM (BRmwW)

Agreed. If you want to take a personal stand against the vaccine, you can't get the basics wrong, or you've lost your case before you started.

There are reasons to be against the vaccine, but the "a vaccinated person is okay in a sea of non-vaccinated, so it doesn't need to concern me now" isn't it...for any vaccine.

Posted by: Nova local at May 09, 2021 11:47 AM (b1h2x)

101 >who did he mean?
Posted by: runner


Us

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 09, 2021 11:47 AM (iTXRQ)

102 it is acceptable since the reverse has been done

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:47 AM (V13WU)

103 Insomniac is a lawyer.

And he ain't doin' nuthin' these days.......
Posted by: JT at May 09, 2021 11:29 AM (arJlL)


Insomniac's unemployed?

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 09, 2021 11:47 AM (y7DUB)

104
ok, here is brilliant idea - open states, states that done away with mask mandates should forbid visitors from states that are mask nazis. You hear that Florida ?
Posted by: runner


Florida needs their money.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2021 11:47 AM (63Dwl)

105 Unfortunately, many of the ideologies of the Nazis, those who were obsessed with the delusional theory of their exclusiveness, are again trying to be put into service," he said, without citing specifics.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 09, 2021 11:43 AM (VVEnO)


So...Democrats.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:47 AM (axyOa)

106 But this is all infinitely depressing.

Posted by: m at May 09, 2021 11:48 AM (TZgEk)

107 One would almost think blood tests and reports of what percent of the population already had antibodies would be the first step before mandatory injections and travel restrictions.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:48 AM (O3VVw)

108 who did he mean?
Posted by: runner

Whoever he needs for it to mean.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 09, 2021 11:48 AM (VVEnO)

109 So my Wife and I got our second shots, me Thursday and she Friday. HOLY CRAP the side effect hit me really hard, Chills, Fever of 102 and Fatigue, my wife is just fatigue. Also my shoulder hurts like a MOTHER

They keep talking about Booster shots I don't think I will. My Wife did work the KungFlu floor at one time.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 09, 2021 11:48 AM (dKiJG)

110 Florida needs their money.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2021 11:47 AM (63Dwl)

eh; the'll get it anyway, do like blue states!

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:49 AM (V13WU)

111 Probably a lot of illegals will be formed into companies of unarmed surveillance troops then expanded to actual arrest, seizure and armed confrontation. Why illegals? They will be glad for the job at very high pay. They already have lived under regimes much more restrictive than the US and are not used to the assumption of rights that citizens do since birth. Sure there will be some who won't go along but there's millions to choose from and their politics and loyalty will be towards the state.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 11:36 AM (dLws2)

The Firemen in F 451 were not created by Big Govt but by the KARENS that wanted people not to think bad thought. IT eventually became any thoughts.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:50 AM (yrol0)

112 I, for one, am waiting for wolf pack immunity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 09, 2021 11:50 AM (VVEnO)

113 Good news: Son #6 out of the Hospital with only a badly broken collar bone, moderate road rash and a totally consumed set of leathers. Praise God.

He wants to visit with Mrs. TP today who is not his natural mother. But she is the Mom that took a crushed little boy and his brother and instilled happiness back into them after their devastating loss.

Mom is just thrilled.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2021 11:50 AM (Rvt88)

114 antibody tests are not that accurate..at least that is what some doc told me..

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:50 AM (V13WU)

115 Far too many people treat the various aspects of COVID (in its entirety) as absolutes.

If you're exposed to it you'll catch it. If you are anywhere near someone who has it you'll get it. If Grandma gets it she's gonna die. If I wear a mask I won't get it. If everyone wears a mask nobody will get. If somebody gets it, it was because that guy at the grocery store didn't wear his mask. If you have a positive PCR test you have the disease. If you get the vaccination you won't get the disease, unless someone doesn't wear a mask. As long as there is one person with the virus the pandemic will continue, and so on and so on.

All of these things involve nuance, gradations, varying degrees of risk assessment and massive ranges of individual variability in terms of susceptibility, innate immunity, personal risk factors and personal value systems. None of this is amenable to a one-size-fits-all top-down heavy-handed governmental micromangerial approach.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:51 AM (Fc5rx)

116 But this is all infinitely depressing.
Posted by: m at May 09, 2021 11:48 AM (TZgEk)


Not at all. In fact it is amazingly liberating. The govies have made it easy to tell them to fu*k off on something easy. Now it'll be easier for the more taxing regulations.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:51 AM (axyOa)

117 I don't think y'all understand.

The vaccine either works or it doesn't.

Make them explain to the public - the same public that is so terrified that they're masked while driving alone - that the vaccine doesn't work.

Make them own it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:51 AM (O3VVw)

118 Want to take more control of a population?
First find a threat (it can be real or made up)
Let the population get alarmed and fearful of attack (put forth lies on what it is and how deadly it really is.
Claim that certain steps will control or lessen the threat but the steps needed take away freedom and cooperation amongst the population.
Promote the idea of a state controlled solution. All other potential solutions from outside actors will either be claimed to be more of a threat or ineffective.
Claim that a solution has been found and make available to population. If too low an acceptance make the solution mandatory and have those who have complied a part of the surveillance and enforcement.

After population becomes used to requirements, increase them for reasons (threat has mutated, other threats found). Use mandatory injections as the first step in genetic and/or intoxication of the population to make them more pliable and willing to cooperate.
Begin to abolish or lessen the power of any agencies that also can control the populations thoughts and deeds.
Announce the assumption of controlling unelected council and Chairman.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 11:51 AM (dLws2)

119 Glad to hear TP.
God bless him in the healing.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 11:52 AM (axyOa)

120 73

25% of people think masked are needed forever.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:35 AM

One fourth of Americans are retards.

https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/vo3txi/
south-park-9-11-all-over-again

Posted by: Kyle at May 09, 2021 11:52 AM (Do5/p)

121 antibody tests are not that accurate..at least that is what some doc told me..

*

Now do pcr tests.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:52 AM (O3VVw)

122 107 One would almost think blood tests and reports of what percent of the population already had antibodies would be the first step before mandatory injections and travel restrictions.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:48 AM (O3VVw)

Texas antigen + Rates:
2.93%, 3.09%, 3.20%, 3.16%, 3.38%, 3.38%, 3.47%
3.40%
Last 7 days rolling 7 days ave. Newest date (05/06) first.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:53 AM (yrol0)

123
Happy that TPSon is on the mend.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 11:53 AM (mht8P)

124 Now do pcr tests.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:52 AM (O3VVw)

What is 2 raised to the fortieth power??

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:53 AM (yrol0)

125 I know quite a few men that think masks are useless but wear them anyway because their wives insist. It's a chick thing.

Rush, again, was right. This country has been chickified.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 09, 2021 11:53 AM (ouuG7)

126 35 10 states have banned vaccine passports and yesterday's news said interest in getting the vaccine has waned. IMO, they'll make another push to enforce compliance thru schools, jobs and travel but then the lawsuits challenging those restrictions will start.
Posted by: LASue at May 09, 2021 11:19 AM (Ed8Zd)

This is happy!

Posted by: m at May 09, 2021 11:53 AM (TZgEk)

127 If Ioseb or Adolf had access to subcutaneous microchips there never would have been a pressing need for papers.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 09, 2021 11:53 AM (2goRJ)

128 123
Happy that TPSon is on the mend.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 11:53 AM (mht8P)

Damn I forgot the cover sheet on my TPS report.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:54 AM (yrol0)

129 Gulag Archipelago is free on pdf, would rather a real book but will check it out a bit

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 11:54 AM (Cxk7w)

130 at the BEE:

Non-Menstruating Partner Wishes Menstruating Partner A Happy Birthing Person's Day

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:55 AM (yrol0)

131 Actual science isn't going to get us out of a place actual science didn't get us into.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:55 AM (SuBvs)

132 Damn I forgot the cover sheet on my TPS report.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Boss - Peter, you seem to have been missing a lot of work.

Peter - Oh, I wouldn't say I've been missing it.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2021 11:55 AM (Rvt88)

133 Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:51 AM (Fc5rx)


You nailed it, sir.

Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2021 11:56 AM (AMIL/)

134 132 Damn I forgot the cover sheet on my TPS report.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Boss - Peter, you seem to have been missing a lot of work.

Peter - Oh, I wouldn't say I've been missing it.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2021 11:55 AM (Rvt8

When I needed a mental health day I would tell people I have vision issues and just could not see myself coming in.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 09, 2021 11:57 AM (yrol0)

135 I can't spare this man. He writes.

Posted by: David Prince at May 09, 2021 11:57 AM (hjuAg)

136 antibody tests are not that accurate..at least that is what some doc told me..

*

Now do pcr tests.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:52 AM (O3VVw)

genius

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2021 11:58 AM (V13WU)

137 "the tools available to those in power are orders of magnitude more powerful than even the infamous East German Ministry For State Security had!"


really good point. And even though the internet also enables good people to communicate and learn in order to stop such terror, the left (or whatever DeepState really is) has seized power to break up any functional groups that arise ... to the point of now labeling any dissent (of the fraud in the vote, for example) as actual terrorism.


They are finding effective communicators and trying to destroy them via lawfare, or worse ... FBI fabricating crimes is lawfare squared (or whatever). So Oath Keepers are now terrorists, in the eyes of The State (the junta). But "the internet" is still one of our best weapons against them ... along with "community organizing".

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2021 11:58 AM (Cus5s)

138 Watched the parade and Vlad's speech last night, as always. Was immediately struck that, for the first time since I've been watching it, he ventured (just a bit) out of general platitudes and strict focus on WWII to allude to current issues, even a little. Hasn't happened before.

Alas I have not been following things at the Kremlin as I used to, so not sure exactly what was behind these remarks, or who the object was. It's not normal for him to comment on things that don't directly affect Russia, at least in high-profile events like this. Even in his recent annual address to parliament/govt., he had only one or two lines about foreign policy.

And the only interesting one: to those who harm or menace Russia, the response will be "fast, asymmetric, and harsh".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2021 11:59 AM (OTzUX)

139
I can assure you that I didn't go to the trouble of getting two shots just so I could be told nothing changes. We'll soon be at a point where anyone who wants the vaccine can get it. Then, as far as anyone should be concerned, any justification for masking, social distancing and capacity restrictions disappears.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 12:00 PM (mht8P)

140 If some entity tells you to get the vax or you're fired, let them fire you.

Then you have provable damage. A suit does no good if you leave voluntarily even if you were provoked. Make them take a provable action that damages you.

Then you can file for rights violation, contract violation, equal opportunity violation, defamation. Keep account of all expenses and make sure you demand they pay your lawyer if you win.

It's not cheap so don't make it easy for them.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 12:02 PM (dLws2)

141 Mrs D has the tv wand of power.
So is it just me or is Hallmark turning every Erin Krakow role into a slightly slutty tease?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2021 12:03 PM (axyOa)

142 So my Wife and I got our second shots, me Thursday and she Friday. HOLY CRAP the side effect hit me really hard, Chills, Fever of 102 and Fatigue, my wife is just fatigue. Also my shoulder hurts like a MOTHER

They keep talking about Booster shots I don't think I will. My Wife did work the KungFlu floor at one time.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 09, 2021 11:48 AM (dKiJG)

Sounds no different than actually having it.
Maybe worse. I heard 50% of people haven't returned for their second shot- this may be why.

Posted by: LASue at May 09, 2021 12:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

143 Whole theory of herd immunity I take it is some point, say %70, either get it, or are vaccinated its not spreading and the %30 without can't spread it enough.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 12:04 PM (Cxk7w)

144
I can assure you that I didn't go to the trouble of getting two shots just so I could be told nothing changes. We'll soon be at a point where anyone who wants the vaccine can get it. Then, as far as anyone should be concerned, any justification for masking, social distancing and capacity restrictions disappears.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 12:00 PM (mht8P)


But yet, you bought into the scam enough to where you were willing to inject a hastily concocted substance into your body.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 09, 2021 12:05 PM (lEaS0)

145
I got sick after the second Moderna shot. Chills, aching and exhausted, though I felt much better the next day.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 12:06 PM (mht8P)

146 And the only interesting one: to those who harm or menace Russia, the response will be "fast, asymmetric, and harsh".

-
Yeah? Well, Joe's response will be slow, incomprehensible, and sniveling.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 09, 2021 12:06 PM (VVEnO)

147 Corporations will be the tip of the spear in the vaccine passports/social media scores.

They are always the gov'ts second line of demanding something that they population is against and would/has reject outright.

Using corporations makes it seem to be a choice whether you can or can't but it usually is something few can bypass.

In some places the only grocery stores are all large regional or national.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 12:07 PM (dLws2)

148 I don't even know how to hot wire a golf cart.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 09, 2021 12:07 PM (o89XP)

149 Looking forward, what will happen when Putin expires?

Should be fun....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 09, 2021 12:07 PM (R/m4+)

150 Whole theory of herd immunity I take it is some point, say %70, either get it, or are vaccinated its not spreading and the %30 without can't spread it enough.

*

Didn't the WHO change the settled science because Trump said pussy in order to tell everyone our 100+ year old development and understanding of herd immunity is impossible and we've always had it wrong so we're starting over?

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 12:08 PM (O3VVw)

151 Last week our parish priest gave homily admonishing our conservative bishops who were considering not giving communion to Biden.
I was looking fwd to this weeks homily but unfortunately the livestream died before I could catch it. Was hoping for a sermon against this vaccine bullying.

Posted by: Rex B at May 09, 2021 12:08 PM (vtzJH)

152 81 I like telling people I'm in the control group not getting the vaccine.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 09, 2021 11:37 AM (7Fj9P)

heh

Posted by: m at May 09, 2021 12:09 PM (TZgEk)

153 143 Whole theory of herd immunity I take it is some point, say %70, either get it, or are vaccinated its not spreading and the %30 without can't spread it enough.
Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 12:04 PM (Cxk7w)

Right - that when one-off cases crop up (and they still can and do), the virus runs into a "wall" where it can't spread to others. So, you have a "herd immunity".

Herd immunity can be had in "regions" (aka, the US may not get there, but certain areas of the US might), so they are expecting my area to hit full herd immunity in July 2021, although I do live in an area with great vaccination rates. There is less certainty the rest of the state will get there in 2021.

Posted by: Nova local at May 09, 2021 12:10 PM (b1h2x)

154 Are flu shots going to be mandatory? Probably not since the flu has been eradicated. /s

Posted by: Can't help myself at May 09, 2021 12:10 PM (2DOZq)

155 I'm doing my part in fighting white supremacy by not getting the shot until every person of color has been vaccinated.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2021 12:11 PM (kTF2Z)

156 And the only interesting one: to those who harm or menace Russia, the response will be "fast, asymmetric, and harsh".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2021 11:59 AM (OTzUX)

A warning to China?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 09, 2021 12:11 PM (ufFY8)

157 Was reading about the Calgary Polish expat priest and was thinking that line in 30 years war book that in Florence Italy officials prevented church services to stop black plague and were excommunicated by the church.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 12:12 PM (Cxk7w)

158 Nice M, I like it.

Stolen.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2021 12:12 PM (Rvt88)

159 Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 12:07 PM (dLws2)

Yup, this is the legal flanking of our Rights.

Corporations can use private property 'rights' to say what you do on their property. Government TELLS them, do X or we will rescind your business license.

Thus, the Company is forced to enforce the government edict on its customers, or be forced out of business.

But really? Its the government taking your Right.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2021 12:12 PM (oHd/0)

160 The local news had an article this morning entitled "What to do if attending a wedding during Covid." Every response is similar to this one:

"I am going to a wedding and enjoying it, just as I have enjoyed all the weddings I have been to in my life. I didn't realize we needed to check with the authorities for permission on how to be a human being."

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2021 12:12 PM (45fpk)

161
https://tinyurl.com/3cjkyjsf
A peer-reviewed research has claimed that global ivermectin use can end the COVID-19 pandemic, as the medicine significantly reduces the risk of contracting the deadly respiratory disease when used regularly.
The common antiparasitic ivermectin is being touted as a miracle cure for COVID-19 by doctors and campaigners the world over.
Peer reviewed by medical experts that included three US government senior scientists and published in the American Journal of Therapeutics, the research is the most comprehensive review of the available data taken from clinical, in vitro, animal, and real-world studies......

Obviously Heretics.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 09, 2021 12:13 PM (sy5kK)

162 Erin Krakow - she has "overgum exposure" as my husband and I used to say. Shows too much gum when she smiles.

Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2021 12:14 PM (6lKe4)

163 "'Sup! Tha' lil' puddin head baby got her letter from school a couple of weeks ago, saying she had to have proof of vaccination to enroll for the fall semester."

If she is okay with being sterilized, sure go for it!

Otherwise, get her transferred elsewhere.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 09, 2021 12:14 PM (xopIz)

164 My point is until Congress and administration believe the vaccine works why would I get it?
Joint session of Congress, all are vaccinated but masked and 6 feet apart, don't tell me they think it works or they are doing it only for control it's one or other.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 12:15 PM (Cxk7w)

165 CV19 is gonna get exposed as a Big Lie. Maybe one of the biggest frauds in history.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 09, 2021 12:15 PM (Ypy+s)

166 I worry that my son's college will eventually mandate the Covid vaccine, when it becomes FDA approved. He has two more years to go. And he had Covid two months ago.

The school sends out a health update every day, with new cases and total cases. For the last week they have had 0 new cases and 4 total cases, in a school of over 15,000 kids. The most active cases they had this semester was, I think, 40.

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 12:15 PM (wyw4S)

167 Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 12:02 PM (dLws2)

Word. Noted.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 09, 2021 12:16 PM (AL0d+)

168 Erin Krakow - she has "overgum exposure" as my husband and I used to say. Shows too much gum when she smiles.
Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2021 12:14 PM (6lKe4)

I know, looks terrible.....

Posted by: Arsenio Hall, washed up celebrity at May 09, 2021 12:16 PM (R/m4+)

169 To comment on the topic:
I love the idea of the team of lawyers for the vaccine resistant. I would even contribute - although I had the Pfizer vaccine. Zero side effects, btw.

The whole powerplay has me deep in tinfoil territory. People say that those with the vaccine might be made susceptible to some dire future experiment - but it seems more plausible to me that the ones who DON'T take the vaccine are the population that the oligarchs would be targeting...

Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2021 12:18 PM (6lKe4)

170 Erin Krakow - she has "overgum exposure" as my husband and I used to say. Shows too much gum when she smiles.
Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2021 12:14 PM (6lKe4)

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Your comments are hurtful.

Posted by: Lisa Page at May 09, 2021 12:18 PM (kTF2Z)

171 My gut feel is that Florida and some other States banning a requirement for a vaccine passport will not give them total freedom from passports, because Blue States may require vaccine passports to do much of anything other than stepping into your own backyard. Unfortunately.

What happens when a Blue City tells it's aviation and police departments that only persons with a vaccine passport will be allowed to get off of a plane arriving from Florida? Or when people from Florida without a vaccine passport are not allowed in most stores and business offices in a Blue State? These are extreme examples, and may not come to pass. But I would not bet against it, and G-d-only knows how Federal Courts will rule on this sort of stuff.

I believe it's safe to predict how the several Federal agencies that control travel and commerce will initially rule on disputes about inter-state passport requirements. Constitution? Hah!

Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2021 12:18 PM (AMIL/)

172 Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 12:15 PM (wyw4S)

I hope they don't, bluebell. So far here WSU has made is mandatory, EWU says they won't make it mandatory, and Gonzaga is still on the fence.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2021 12:19 PM (s9fsa)

173 IIRC vaccines are NOT FDA approved, and it's impossible to receive proof of vaccination for the COVIDs.

Technically, the FDA cannot approve them because there are other effective treatments, e.g HCQ and Ivermectin.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 09, 2021 12:19 PM (xopIz)

174 But yet, you bought into the scam enough to where you were willing to inject a hastily concocted substance into your body.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 09, 2021 12:05 PM (lEaS0)


People have the freedom (so far) to chose to get or not get the vaccine. Everyone's circumstances are different. I got the Moderna vaccine for reasons of my own and I'm perfectly okay with my choice.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2021 12:21 PM (45fpk)

175 I hope they don't, bluebell. So far here WSU has made is mandatory, EWU says they won't make it mandatory, and Gonzaga is still on the fence.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2021 12:19 PM (s9fsa)
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No schools have in Virginia that I know of, but I worry that once one goes, the rest go like dominoes. This is one of those times I wish we had a lawyer in the family. I don't even know what kind of lawyer one would hire to fight this.

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 12:21 PM (wyw4S)

176 I believe it's safe to predict how the several Federal agencies that control travel and commerce will initially rule on disputes about inter-state passport requirements. Constitution? Hah!
Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2021 12:18 PM (AMIL/)

Si! You just can't let people travel here and there willy nilly....next thing you know people will be streaming across the border.

El horror, el horror.

Posted by: Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez at May 09, 2021 12:22 PM (R/m4+)

177 Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2021 12:18 PM (6lKe4)

This is a power play to convince the people that they must relinquish all control, to the Government.

They are 'programing' us into compliance.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2021 12:22 PM (oHd/0)

178 My city's mask ordinance expired. I only wear a mask to Mass (because my Bishop is an imbecile, which I am so very sorry about).

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 09, 2021 12:23 PM (xopIz)

179 Again with the "bad seasonal flu" nonsense. Ace.mu.nu instructed the horde last year that about six percent of Rona-19 deaths occur without serious comorbidititties. The deaths from the Commie Cough (19) amount to about six percent of a bad seasonal flu.

Posted by: Marooned at May 09, 2021 12:23 PM (5TnwH)

180 IIRC vaccines are NOT FDA approved, and it's impossible to receive proof of vaccination for the COVIDs.

Technically, the FDA cannot approve them because there are other effective treatments, e.g HCQ and Ivermectin.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 09, 2021 12:19 PM (xopIz)
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I thought they give you a card when you get the vaccine, and also there is an electronic record.

And the federal government refuses to admit that there are effective treatments.

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 12:24 PM (wyw4S)

181 >>> I could offer up my opinion about COVID vaccination, and the government's proper role in that process, but the short form blog comment construct is not the best way to get into it. Better a couple three hours over a couple three adult beverages.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 09, 2021 11:28 AM (Fc5rx)

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Last week all four house members got the rona. The other three all had very mild symptoms. Mine developed into pneumonia. The acute care doc said it may have been because I was taking Prednisone at the time. Long story short, I would have taken the vaccine when I had the option (i turned it down on two occasions). Not sure I've ever felt this bad in my life.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at May 09, 2021 12:25 PM (Pxs3T)

182 176 I believe it's safe to predict how the several Federal agencies that control travel and commerce will initially rule on disputes about inter-state passport requirements. Constitution? Hah!
Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2021 12:18 PM (AMIL/)

Si! You just can't let people travel here and there willy nilly....next thing you know people will be streaming across the border.

El horror, el horror.

Posted by: Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez at May 09, 2021 12:22 PM (R/m4+)


Passport? Passport?! I don' need no steenkeeng passport!!!

Posted by: Every person in the world who calims to be under the age of18 at May 09, 2021 12:26 PM (AMIL/)

183 fauci now wants us to wear masks for ever...fuck you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2021 12:26 PM (85Gof)

184 Note: if the FDA approves fully the "vaccine" (something I don't believe will happen with current drugs) then they will have to release the data of all the tests and results.

And that will make some interesting reading. Which is why I don't believe they'll get full approval. FDA will say it's not needed because so many have already gotten the shot.

But what if some side effects (and I'm not talking the aches and pains that come with an energizing of the immune system) won't show up for months/years?

And what if they are only say 5% or less of the injected? At what level is it considered "safe". And by the way they have yet to really produce verifiable deaths directly from covid as a percent of population and/or infected. And what the infection rates are and what means the covid virus uses to infect people.

They've made a lot of statements about what to DO but nothing about the proof that any of it works.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 12:26 PM (dLws2)

185 Not sure I've ever felt this bad in my life.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at May 09, 2021 12:25 PM (Pxs3T)


I hope you will be feeling better very soon.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2021 12:26 PM (45fpk)

186 JAS, yes, emergency authorization for the CV19 injections was obtained by fraud.

Hydroxychloroquine / zpac / zinc and Ivermectin cure CV19. There's plenty of data on that.

Meanwhile, what's the latest body count in the U.S. for the mRna drugs? 4,000 dead? 100,000 plus adverse events?

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 09, 2021 12:27 PM (Ypy+s)

187 How long until Fauci accuses Tucker Carlson of spreading Russian disinformation?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2021 12:27 PM (kTF2Z)

188 Want to change the trajectory of all this? Get out and protest. I'm not talking "insurrection", running around the streets like Rambo or John Wick. Thousands need to organize and show up on CEO's and politicians doorsteps. Waiting for a politician(savior) or political party to do something is absolute foolishness. If you're too old to go outside then help organize something.

For now we have the freedom to read our clever comments and say the same shit over n over on a blog, but soon that'll come to an end too. We need to do what the left does and get out in the streets and show a presence. We need to put an inkling of fear in these a-holes. We have given them no reasons to blink.

Posted by: JROD at May 09, 2021 12:27 PM (0jZnq)

189 Swinging', did they give you Regeneron? I got Covid pneumonia too, but I had Covid more than ten days before I got the pneumonia so they couldn't give me that. I got one dose of an oral steroid, z-pack and a couple of inhalers. Started feeling better right away.

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 12:28 PM (wyw4S)

190 Posted by: Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez at May 09, 2021 12:22 PM (R/m4+)

Also known as THE RAT.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 12:29 PM (dLws2)

191 bluebell - I did not realize that you had Covid plus pneumonia!

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2021 12:30 PM (45fpk)

192 Augustus McCrae would say Fauci's the type of man it's a pleasure to hang.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 09, 2021 12:32 PM (y7DUB)

193 Sitrep:sitting at Albert Ice House drinking a beer and eating a cheeseburger. Carry on.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 09, 2021 12:33 PM (WvFyS)

194 The fun thing is, you pay anywhere from $60-$200 a month to have yourself monitored, in addition to the monitoring device you purchase, of which you eagerly await the latest model's release.

Just about 15 years ago I was sitting in a bar somewhere saying "Why the hell would anyone need to check the Internet in their cellphone?" and I was happy with my Nokia cell phone that had Tetris on it.

We pretend life isn't possible without smartphones, but it just isn't so. In those days before smartphones, I used a road atlas, then Mapquest searches (remember those!) that I printed off, and finally a Garmin GPS.

And only people that knew me had instant access to me through a cell number. Everyone else left a message at home or at work. But now I don't even have a home phone and my business phone rings straight through to my cell when I'm out of the office.

But none of it has to be that way. We just like it that way. We like our permanent tracking devices that keep us on call 24/7. Hell, we are addicted to them!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 09, 2021 12:34 PM (djoaS)

195 I did, Grammie, in mid March. We almost all got Covid, very mild symptoms, felt fine within a few days. But on the day I got out of quarantine, I woke up feeling very fatigued. The days later my doc sent me to the hospital for a chest X-ray and I had Covid pneumonia. I was the only one in the family who got that. Luckily, I have no underlying conditions, so it was an easy recovery. Those three days of fatigue were strange though. Nothing hurt, no fever, just exhausted, but not tired, if that makes sense.

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 12:34 PM (wyw4S)

196 Sitrep:sitting at Albert Ice House drinking a beer and eating a cheeseburger. Carry on.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 09, 2021 12:33 PM (WvFyS)

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You gonna finish those fries?

Posted by: Meghan McCain at May 09, 2021 12:34 PM (kTF2Z)

197 183 fauci now wants us to wear masks for ever...fuck you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2021 12:26 PM (85Gof)


Predictable. Fauci and Biden will say crap like this by the end of the year: "As long as one person in the world has COVID, it can spread! The US will be unprepared for another wave of the disease if no one's wearing masks and less than 99.99999 percent of our population is vaccinated! We can't take the risk of another hundred thousand or more deaths! Be a patriot - Mask Up!"

Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2021 12:34 PM (AMIL/)

198 You gonna finish those fries?
Posted by: Meghan McCain at May 09, 2021 12:34 PM

Back off FatBack...

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 09, 2021 12:35 PM (WvFyS)

199 Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 12:15 PM (wyw4S)

I hope they don't, bluebell. So far here WSU has made is mandatory, EWU says they won't make it mandatory, and Gonzaga is still on the fence.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2021 12:19 PM (s9fsa)

In 5 years or so when the birth defects and other adverse effects from these vaccines come to the forefront, the schools and employers who required vaccinations may end up on the hook for serious damages. Especially since the manufacturers are immune from liability by statute.

Posted by: LASue at May 09, 2021 12:36 PM (Ed8Zd)

200 ...And whether or not this comes to pass, fear of litigation is a good motivator for these employers and schools to rethink, deeply, their actions in stepping in to the fray by making a vaccine they know little about mandatory.

Posted by: LASue at May 09, 2021 12:37 PM (Ed8Zd)

201 Don't think KT has posted today, wonder how she is doing

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2021 12:37 PM (Cxk7w)

202 197: In the book thread we discussed characters we'd love to slap, I'd love to slap the "mask up" parrots

Posted by: CN at May 09, 2021 12:37 PM (ONvIw)

203 I wonder if people are going to start calling themselves "Covid survivors."

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2021 12:37 PM (s9fsa)

204 Are people actually being arrested for fake vaccine cards? How do they know its not real, especially if its scanned into your phone?

Posted by: Megthered at May 09, 2021 12:38 PM (/s13i)

205 203: they do

Posted by: CN at May 09, 2021 12:38 PM (ONvIw)

206 I wonder if people are going to start calling themselves "Covid survivors."
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2021 12:37 PM (s9fsa)
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Only those looking for attention.

Posted by: bluebell, Covid survivor at May 09, 2021 12:39 PM (wyw4S)

207 But for modern genetic science they would not be able to distinguish Kung Flu from any other annual flu variation. Any perceived bump in deaths would be better attributed to "dry tinder".

Posted by: Rose Mary Jane at May 09, 2021 12:39 PM (inaoS)

208 190 Posted by: Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez at May 09, 2021 12:22 PM (R/m4+)

Also known as THE RAT.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 09, 2021 12:29 PM (dLws2)


Nowadays, a jury of his peers probably wouldn't convict him for raping women of the white race. That's called Progress!

Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2021 12:39 PM (AMIL/)

209 Predictable. Fauci and Biden will say crap like this by the end of the year

The fear and punch of this virus is fading, time for another to "escape" the Wuhan lab

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 09, 2021 12:39 PM (KZzsI)

210 My point is until Congress and administration believe the vaccine works why would I get it?


This COVID injection does not meet the legal standards of a vaccine. It is gene therapy that does NOT stop the spread of the disease, and does not stop you from getting it. It may or may not mitigate the symptoms.

There are now something like 3,300 deaths attributed to the injection at VAERS. During the Swine Flu outbreak, there were 50 vaccine deaths and the FDA stopped the vaccines.

Posted by: vyx at May 09, 2021 12:40 PM (TMb1F)

211 And for all the people who say they've had the Wuflu; you know that for sure, how? Because the doc said so?

With all the disinformation. false statistics, and the pressure on doctors and hospitals to jack up the numbers for their government subsidies, how do you really know it isn't just a regular seasonal flu or cold?

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 09, 2021 12:41 PM (8f3g+)

212 So Commie DeBlasio allowed a cannibas parade to take place but will not allow a Memorial Day veterans parade. If the dam breaks it will catastrophic.

Posted by: Can't help myself at May 09, 2021 12:41 PM (ct0K5)

213 "Mine developed into pneumonia. The acute care doc said it may have been because I was taking Prednisone at the time."


hope you recover fully and soon. Makes me think of The Joker in Batman ... ingredients in hygiene and cosmetic products ... when certain ones were mixed, it gave people the crazy face (or did it just kill them?)


So conspiracy theory is the weaponized Covid19 does things to the body that make it more vulnerable when combined with other "things". Comorbidities we know about, but maybe other things (certain drugs? foods?) ... who knows?

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2021 12:41 PM (Cus5s)

214

Irish democracy and resistance; bribery to undermine the front line enforcers; degradation of the State systems; sabots in the mill gears....

Posted by: Ginormo Weinero at May 09, 2021 12:42 PM (uEauf)

215 it gave people the crazy face (or did it just kill them?)

Yes, both

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 09, 2021 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

216 Jordan61, How is your pup doing?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 09, 2021 12:42 PM (2XkiP)

217 I tested positive for antibodies, but don't remember having the Rona. A disease so horrible I had to get tested to know I had it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2021 12:42 PM (kTF2Z)

218 204: They are not very distinctive, double-sided though, so it would take effort to get it right on a copier

Posted by: CN at May 09, 2021 12:43 PM (ONvIw)

219 They arrested the polish pastor in canada yesterday. Tied him up and drug him out.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 09, 2021 12:44 PM (pnzcV)

220 NYC teacher caught sucking topless man's nipple during Zoom class

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 09, 2021 12:45 PM (iTXRQ)

221 I buy into the democrat Munchausen by Proxy case enough to cave on the jab, I have had my child and I can go.

I will fight him taking it as long as I can.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2021 12:45 PM (Lzpvj)

222 Feeling Melancholy.

https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=rSgTAJiWXvs

Posted by: Infidel at May 09, 2021 12:45 PM (E0OEG)

223 219 They arrested the polish pastor in canada yesterday. Tied him up and drug him out.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 09, 2021 12:44 PM (pnzcV)

And they want to believe this is about a respiratory disease that is not TB. They don't care about TB.

Posted by: CN at May 09, 2021 12:45 PM (ONvIw)

224 If your job and/or school requires the experimental COVID shot-- if you search The Solari Report, there is paperwork there that you can present to your employer/school. Solari Report is financial guru Catherine Austin Fitts.

BTW... OSHA has now said that if your job requires you to get it and you get sick, it's on your employer.

Posted by: vyx at May 09, 2021 12:46 PM (TMb1F)

225 Jordan61, How is your pup doing?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 09, 2021 12:42 PM (2XkiP)


Same as always. I still have to get out to the store and get some aspirin so I can give that a try.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2021 12:46 PM (iINbI)

226 217 Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2021 12:42 PM (kTF2Z)

Yes we must sacrifice all our economic liberty forever for the rona...

let we lose those same 3-10 pennies out of a 1000 we did for the uh "flu."

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2021 12:46 PM (Lzpvj)

227 219 They arrested the polish pastor in canada yesterday. Tied him up and drug him out.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 09, 2021 12:44 PM (pnzcV)

220 NYC teacher caught sucking topless man's nipple during Zoom class



Perfect back-to-back posts to illustrate the state of the world.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 09, 2021 12:46 PM (djoaS)

228 210 Posted by: vyx at May 09, 2021 12:40 PM (TMb1F)

They will destroy all economic liberty until society caves, and in not caving we are prolonging the destruction of the American work ethic which is the cornerstone of our experiment.

I made the choice to get the jab as a ransom for the future of America, and I will hate them until I die for their antics.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2021 12:48 PM (Lzpvj)

229 yes I regret my actions-
have a lot on my mind

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 09, 2021 12:48 PM (iTXRQ)

230 Anyone read much on the Novavax vaccine yet to be released? A commenter mentioned it this morning. I was not aware of it.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 09, 2021 12:48 PM (ju2Fy)

231 We can whine about this all we want, but what, precisely, is anyone doing about it? How do we go about fixing it?

I was out and about town yesterday and not once did I have to mask up to get service. The only place that seems to remain is at the grocery store, and only because they are watched.

Time to quit acquiescing. Once and for all.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 09, 2021 12:51 PM (SDdx5)

232 231 Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 09, 2021 12:51 PM (SDdx5)

I just went to Lowe's not a single customer other than my son and I were masked.

I masked up out of reflext because I am required to at my contracting job....

Lad like a good lad masked up so I would not be the only idiot in the valley.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2021 12:53 PM (Lzpvj)

233 "hey arrested the polish pastor in canada yesterday. Tied him up and drug him out."


and three girls at UMass (?) were kicked out of school for posting on social media, a picture of the three together Without Masks. School keeping their tuition ... (and classes were probably online anyway) ...

The Institutions controlled by the left/DS are acting in harmony with the Junta/Stasi.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2021 12:54 PM (Cus5s)

234 If your job and/or school requires the experimental COVID shot-- if you search The Solari Report, there is paperwork there that you can present to your employer/school. Solari Report is financial guru Catherine Austin Fitts.

Posted by: vyx at May 09, 2021 12:46 PM (TMb1F)
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I just looked that up - are you talking about the family financial report? That's from the family member taking the vaccine to the rest of the family. I don't see anything to do with paperwork to present to your employer or school. Can you guide me?

Posted by: bluebell, Covid survivor at May 09, 2021 12:55 PM (wyw4S)

235 Time to quit acquiescing. Once and for all.

This. And stop pretending that businesses have a right to demand behavior that government doesn't have. They are responding to fear of retaliation, and the only way to motivate them properly is to make it more fearful to support the Left's demands.

Posted by: Methos at May 09, 2021 12:55 PM (kOpft)

236 Anyone read much on the Novavax vaccine yet to be released? A commenter mentioned it this morning. I was not aware of it.

The problem with these injections is that they create spike proteins. It appears that the spike proteins are causing the blood clotting problems. ALL the current EXPERIMENTAL injections, including this one, create spike proteins.

Also.. this disease has a 99.73% or higher survival rate for most people. There are also treatments for it that do not require injections with an experimental serum that may cause death or irreversible health problems.

Posted by: vyx at May 09, 2021 12:56 PM (uxqZF)

237 >We can whine about this all we want, but what, precisely, is anyone doing about it? How do we go about fixing it?


Well, I live in Colorado, which is currently in the thrall of the homosexuals, socialists, and marijuana addicts in Denver. State-wide mask mandate, recently extended by the sodomite governor Polis into June. You can't enter a commercial establishment without the mask. Accordingly, I do not enter commercial establishments.

Mask compliance is high here- people wear them walking dogs, bicycling, driving alone in the cars, etc.

All I can do is refuse to comply, when and where I can.

And no shot.

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 09, 2021 12:56 PM (iTXRQ)

238 Whoops, time to get rid of that joke.

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 12:56 PM (wyw4S)

239
Luckily I live in a more rural county and most of the towns I have to travel to (Alvin, Angleton, Lake Jackson) are well south of Houston. Masking is becoming increasingly rare there. If I went to most parts of Harris County, I'm sure the Karenstaffel would be screaming at me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2021 12:57 PM (mht8P)

240 Vaccines that work require a certain % of penetration into the population to dampen transmission to/between those who don't have it AND for those where it wasn't effective or has worn off.
Posted by: somedood
You sure you are on our side? Vaccines that wear off? Ridiculous. I have a PhD in immunology. But even if I had just taken one course in immunology I would tell you that vaccines do not wear off.
Your immune system, mostly B an T cells, have an incredible memory for antigens they have seen in the past. That memory means that within minutes of seeing an antigen, the immune system responds in force and crushes the invading virus, bacteria, fungus, etc.
And while I am at it, herd immunity? You feel we need to push the vaccine for herd immunity? Covid 19 is not friggin polio. We do not need to push people to take a vaccine against basically the flu.

Posted by: MikeM at May 09, 2021 12:57 PM (5kpOR)

241 I just wanted to thank everyone for their prayers for the baptismal service. It all went fine and everyone seemed happy and now I am exhausted. One funny thing- and I hope this won't offend the high church types- I have kids process in the front and throw confetti as the baby is brought around to show to people, and we all sing "Jesus loves me" This confetti was small multi colored l paper circles and it floated in the air above the heating vent. It was pretty and they loved it.

And I have to clean it up on Tuesday because I made the mess. Nobody said I had to, I just always do that

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2021 12:57 PM (k39e/)

242 tcn in AK, a lot of people are refusing to get the CV19 injections. Word is getting out about the deaths, strokes, miscarriages, bizarre menstruation, and more.

A lot of people won't mask anymore.

Florida and other states are banning vaccine passports.

There's good momentum away from the CV19 psyop. So much so, that demand for the injections is plummeting.

Beyond this, lawsuits. Lots of lawsuits -- deprivation of civil rights under the color of law.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 09, 2021 12:58 PM (Ypy+s)

243 I just looked that up - are you talking about the family financial report? That's from the family member taking the vaccine to the rest of the family. I don't see anything to do with paperwork to present to your employer or school. Can you guide me?
Posted by: bluebell, Covid survivor

Here you go Bluebell:

https://tinyurl.com/2ae2pemy

Posted by: vyx at May 09, 2021 12:59 PM (uxqZF)

244 Most of the people are still wearing the mask but more and more now I see people having it below the nose or even hanging off the chin. I walked around for a few minutes in Walmart yesterday maskless but it didn't take long for a manager to ask me to put it on. So I did. On my chin.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 09, 2021 01:00 PM (nxdel)

245 And vyx, I do see the employer and school form on their homepage but when I click on it I just get the family form.

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 01:00 PM (wyw4S)

246
Time to quit acquiescing. Once and for all.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 09, 2021 12:51 PM (SDdx5)


And that's really all it takes. If you want to be free, then act like your free. Will this junta exact consequences on free behavior? Probably. But if enough people choose to live free as individuals, the junta will eventually become powerless.

Be willing to make a few sacrifices for your freedom. Quit living in fear.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 09, 2021 01:00 PM (Fs5vw)

247 Here you go Bluebell:

https://tinyurl.com/2ae2pemy
Posted by: vyx at May 09, 2021 12:59 PM (uxqZF)
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Thank you! That works. I don't know why I couldn't get to it directly, but your link got me there. Thank you.

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 01:01 PM (wyw4S)

248 FIRST NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at May 09, 2021 01:01 PM (Cxk7w)

249 I literally never seen anyone inside without masks, ever. And most people wear them outside, as well.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2021 01:02 PM (iINbI)

250 Fen, that's great! I was wondering how it went for you. And I'm "high church" but I think it's wonderful that you had such a nice celebration for the new baby Christian! Sorry about the cleanup though .

Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 01:03 PM (wyw4S)

251 Nood.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - The Original Fanilow (since 1974) at May 09, 2021 01:03 PM (SRRAx)

252 Solari Report PDF for Employers requiring COVID jab:

https://tinyurl.com/yjkbb4s

Solari Report PDF for schools requiring COVID jab;

https://tinyurl.com/57ufkmh8

This is for you to present to your employer/ educator if you do not want to participate in the stage 3 trials.

Posted by: vyx at May 09, 2021 01:04 PM (kFA7a)

253 Posted by: bluebell at May 09, 2021 01:03 PM (wyw4S)

Thanks; I'm used to it-our sexton is sort of "iffy" but we pay her because her husband whose mother was a member cuts the grass for free.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2021 01:04 PM (k39e/)

254 I have only worn the mask because of my job, which requires it because of local and state ordinances.

Also, because of the ordinances, I have been forced to wear it in stores, but you have to if you want to get groceries.

Other than that, I value my freedom.

If they tell me that I have to hate Jews at my job or to grocery shop, I will also do that. But not on my own time.

But I love freedom, big time. Huge patriot.

Posted by: Average Commentor at May 09, 2021 01:07 PM (djoaS)

255 241 Fenelon,
I think your practice at baptisms is just fine. There is a lot of joy that can be found in faith and its ceremonies and I think that your practice brings that out.

Sorry about you having to clean up though.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2021 01:20 PM (pO7gM)

256 This is key.

It's up to people to stop wearing the masks. The government won't give them permission. And when one freedom-curious person sees another person being free, he'll try it, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 11:19 AM (O3VVw)

Yep. As I read somewhere. Freedom is not something you can ask for. It is something you have to take.

Posted by: InCali at May 09, 2021 02:01 PM (ov5G+)

257 "Politics is downstream of culture." What are you doing to win back the culture?

Have you joined your local school board yet?

Posted by: Two Weeks at May 09, 2021 02:13 PM (ELnqd)

258 Thanks, Whig and Bluebell for your support. It certainly was a joyous occasion.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2021 02:25 PM (k39e/)

259 Florida and other states are banning vaccine passports.

There's good momentum away from the CV19 psyop. So much so, that demand for the injections is plummeting.

Beyond this, lawsuits. Lots of lawsuits -- deprivation of civil rights under the color of law.


Funny...correlation does not equal causation, but the number of Pfizersticks turning up with blood clottting in inconvenient places is getting notable. I've suggested my wife and daughter watch carefully for any shortness of breath or heart issues.

I've been through my second Moderna, and while I've had no long-term effects at this point the day after each shot I was basically incapable of doing anything more than getting up and stumbling to the bathroom to pee then back to bed.

Posted by: JEM at May 09, 2021 02:44 PM (8erNz)

260 257 "Politics is downstream of culture." What are you doing to win back the culture?

Have you joined your local school board yet?


I ran for school board here ten years ago, our district is one city of 30K and one city of 110K and while I was well enough known and liked to win the 30K town (especially on the main issue I was running on) the 110K place was a little adversarial and wanted one of their own.

The issue I ran on is just coming to pass now.

Posted by: JEM at May 09, 2021 02:47 PM (8erNz)

261 Occupation Governor Biden has proposed a new $5 billion Dept. of Health-land Security called HARPA.

They're selling it as a cancer cure, but we've had a Cancer Institute since 1937. This would be a Ministry of Forced Vaccinations and Social Credit Passports and would enforce whatever decrees Biden is ordered to enact by his Chinese owners.

The War on Cancer we need is against the metastasized Obama Machine that criminally installed this Puppet Government through massive Election Fraud.

Cure that.

link in nick

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 09, 2021 04:10 PM (Ndje9)

262 The total number of people killed by AIDS in the USA in the last 40years is just about the same as the total killed by covid in the last 15 months
The very same people complaining about intrusive government are the same people saying the government should control a woman's body, that is as silly as a guy combining about gay marriage with a dick in his mouth

Posted by: Kurt at May 09, 2021 05:16 PM (8N+UE)

263 If someone believes the 40 year aids death number is roughly the same as the covid related deaths since the first of 2020 they're an unserious actor with no understanding of the topics and someone who other people can easily ignore.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at May 09, 2021 05:24 PM (HepDI)

264 and someone who other people can easily ignore.

Which we do

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2021 07:57 PM (KZzsI)

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