Supreme Court Takes Up First Second Amendment Case in Ten Years

A year or two ago, there were media reports that sources said that the conservative justices were intentionally dodging all second amendment cases.

The reason? Chief Justice Roberts. They were pretty sure that Bush's Present to Conservatives would vote against the second amendment, and they didn't want to let this sad cuck closet-masturbator invent new precedent.

Maybe the court now senses that they have five conservative votes.

Roberts is simply a liberal. Straight up. Not a swing vote. A liberal.

Thanks Bush! Thanks, Federalist Society!

The case being taken up is whether people have a fundamental right to carry weapons outside their home, and whether the state can "regulate" that right into non-existence.

The Court decided to take up the case New York State Rifle et. al. v. Corlett, focusing on the question of "Whether the State’s denial of petitioners' applications for concealed-carry licenses for self-defense violated the Second Amendment."
Robert Nash and Brandon Koch applied for licenses to carry firearms outside their homes in New York, SCOTUS blog reported. The licensing officer denied their requests after determining that, under New York law, they had "failed to show 'proper cause' to carry a firearm in public for the purpose of self-defense, because [they] did not demonstrate a special need for self-defense that distinguished them from the general public."

The state wants to have very stringent conditions for carrying a gun, such as being a Democrat celebrity, and deny them to all people who don't fit that category.

Hopefully the Court will rule that people have a right to carry a gun, and the state cannot set up "conditions" that essentially render this right a nullity.

Posted by: Ace at 12:34 PM

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1 Bam

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 11:35 AM (kTF2Z)

2 Ill fetch the otters.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 11:35 AM (kTF2Z)

3 Otters called.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 11:35 AM (kTF2Z)

4 Mornin' Ace!

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (6ByH8)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)

6 Rounding third and going for home.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (kTF2Z)

7 On another note the Constitutional Carry here in Texas is back in play. There was such a backlash that they have re-opened the bill. We shall see.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (jvt6t)

8 Thrown out at home.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (kTF2Z)

9 I don't give a fuck what they rule.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (esxgB)

10 8 Thrown out at home.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (kTF2Z)

Meatloaf?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (jvt6t)

11 Because "shall not be infringed" is sofa king confusing.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

12 I have no confidence in these traitors.

Traitors because they chose to accept a coup and bless it and refuse to let the people's true votes be counted.

Fuck the Supremes. This is a lawless land.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Marcus Brasswang at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (uxJPn)

13 But Gorsuch

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (kcYij)

14 I don't trust the Amy

Posted by: kallisto at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (DJFLF)

15 I fear these guys will get punked again after a few bits of mob terror.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (lmikk)

16 On another note the Constitutional Carry here in Texas is back in play. There was such a backlash that they have re-opened the bill. We shall see.

Meaning no CPL required?

Posted by: clutch at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (9UmRs)

17 >>Because "shall not be infringed" is sofa king confusing.

You got emanations in my penumbras!

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (esxgB)

18

Don't blame the Fed Soc for Roberts' "growing" in office. They didn't force him to choose his cocktail party friends over the Consitution.

Posted by: imp at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (SFOr6)

19 12 I have no confidence in these traitors.

Traitors because they chose to accept a coup and bless it and refuse to let the people's true votes be counted.

Fuck the Supremes. This is a lawless land.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Marcus Brasswang at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (uxJPn)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (lmikk)

20 If we consider the 2A to be a tax, then the government can regulate it!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (0UNjH)

21 On another note the Constitutional Carry here in Texas is back in play. There was such a backlash that they have re-opened the bill. We shall see.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (jvt6t)

Fucking New Hampshire has it. Texas legislators should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

22 Meaning no CPL required?
Posted by: clutch at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (9UmRs)

Yes.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (jvt6t)

23 My theory is that most of SCOTUS just didn't want to touch the election cases out of self-preservation. If they "overturned" the vote by allowing actual investigation into the rampant cheating, they'd be marked for retribution. They're largely cowards for that.

I never thought it would extend to them bending the knee to every leftist wishlist item in the future, though. We were still going to be getting conservative victories. The balance of victories for the right vs. the left was going to continue to tilt towards the right, though we were never going to get blowout cases (Chevron still deserves to die, though).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (LvTSG)

24 Outlaw private security...they're mercenaries...they may already be outlawed.

Posted by: BignJames at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (AwYPR)

25 The phrase "shall not be infringed" has no standing. The Constitution is moot.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:39 AM (kcYij)

26 I'm not going to be disappointed on this because my expectations are on a Marianas level.

Posted by: f'd at April 26, 2021 11:39 AM (Tnijr)

27 Ok, you don't need a reason to receive a carry permit, there will be a $100,000 licensing fee to cover costs.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 26, 2021 11:39 AM (0UNjH)

28 If we consider the 2A to be a tax, then the government can regulate it!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (0UNjH)

It will be adjusted accordingly under the commerce clause.

Because FUCK YOU, that's why.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

29 Fucking New Hampshire has it. Texas legislators should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

They were ashamed. And the voters, me included, let them know it.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (jvt6t)

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Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (YYlyE)

31 I'm not going to be disappointed on this because my expectations are on a Marianas level.
Posted by: f'd at April 26, 2021 11:39 AM (Tnijr)

You and me both

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (GPwVZ)

32 Expect a narrow ruling that is only marginally useful as precedent.

Posted by: Boone at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (Scn9U)

33 Yep, John Roberts is a liberal. Ever since he stabbed us in the back with his ruling on Obamacare he has gone further left.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (NpAcC)

34 I never thought it would extend to them bending the knee to every leftist wishlist item in the future, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (LvTSG)

Not every one. Just every third. Or maybe just every time some group threatens them.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (kcYij)

35 A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Pretty fucking simple, and yet our most learned class of asshole argues for decades about what rights we're allowed to have, and how we're allowed to use them.

small aside, notice that the founders made specific mention of the militia, the state and the people as separate entities.

Case closed.

Except it isn't and never will be.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (z79tQ)

36 I have no confidence in these traitors.

Traitors because they chose to accept a coup and bless it and refuse to let the people's true votes be counted.

Fuck the Supremes. This is a lawless land.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Marcus Brasswang at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (uxJPn)

x1000

Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (KnJdm)

37 There was such a backlash that they have re-opened the bill. We shall see.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:36 AM (jvt6t)

They will run out the clock on the session and claim that they tried, but ran out of time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (0UNjH)

38 WALTHER PDP FULL SIZE OPTIC READY 9MM PISTOL - 5"; $650; https://bit.ly/3vjDhlB

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (YYlyE)

39 If you are going to live in NY you going to have to agree to live by their rules.

Posted by: f'd at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (Tnijr)

40 Taste My Emanation

Posted by: John King Kamehameha Roberts esq at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (kcYij)

41 30 Springfield ArmoryM1A SOCOM 7.62 BLK CQB CARBON; $2,000; https://bit.ly/3gFYLoA
Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (YYlyE)

I like the looks of those.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (lmikk)

42 Some are suggesting that we should gird our loins for disappointment because the Court only granted cert as to the following question:

Whether the State's denial of petitioners' applications for concealed-carry licenses for self-defense violated the Second Amendment.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (H5knJ)

43 It's. So. Thirsty... So very. Very. Thirsty.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (BDQo0)

44 Springfield ArmoryM1A SOCOM 7.62 BLK CQB CARBON; $2,000; https://bit.ly/3gFYLoA
Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM

Only until the idiots on Beacon Hill vote to make it illegal for S&W to manufacture them. Rationale: We shouldn't be allowing our companies to manufacture and sell to other states these hideous weapons of war that we ban in our own state. Yes. This bill is actually a thing.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 26, 2021 11:42 AM (m+jkK)

45 Of course you have the right to free speech under the First Amendment, just not outside of your house nor on the internet. Because anyone actually hearing your words are experiencing violence, Trumptard.
--SCOTUS 2022

Also, it's a tax. --Honorable John Roberts

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 26, 2021 11:42 AM (DXFDM)

46 They will run out the clock on the session and claim that they tried, but ran out of time.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 26, 2021 11:41 AM (0UNjH)

It's already back on the calendar. This caused an uproar here and everyone that cared and took the time to voice their displeasure sounded off on their ass. Like I said. We shall see.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:42 AM (jvt6t)

47 We need the Court to define just what the hell a RIGHT is. The idea that abortion is a Right, or Marriage, is a Right, is... wrong.

Yet somehow a Right explicitly written into the Constitution, CAN and will be infringed?

Roberts will call it a Tax, no doubt.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 11:43 AM (oHd/0)

48 Outlaw private security...they're mercenaries...they may already be outlawed.
Posted by: BignJames

I saw Outlaw Private Security open for the Stones at Altamont. Some of the crowd was floored!

Posted by: Tonypete at April 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Rvt88)

49 I just got a book deal. I know which way I'm voting.

Posted by: ACB at April 26, 2021 11:43 AM (EpDzw)

50 Gun Grabbing is a TAX!

Posted by: John Iscariot Roberts at April 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Bmy3R)

51 I sadly lost all respect for SCOTUS when they couldn't be bothered to take up the cases for saving the United States of America. They certainly aren't there to preserve our rights enshrined in the Constitution and granted by G*d. I have no faith left in them.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (O+I8R)

52 Fuck the Supremes. This is a lawless land.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Marcus Brasswang
____________

Yep. Illegal aliens get to ignore whatever laws they don't feel like complying with, with impunity. Blacks get special treatment. Leftists do whatever the f*ck they want. And courts, including the Supreme Court, just make up shit as they go and ignore the plain language of the constitution.

No reason in the world that the rest of us should obey the law. That's for suckers now.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (k4dH2)

53 In no context are the terms "conservative" and "liberal" more meaningless than in that of SCOTUS or the judiciary.

These are clerks, doing a mundane job of applying laws decided by others. Every bit of "doctrine" and schools of interpretation are transparent usurpation of legislative or executive authority. It is 100% the result of failure by those 2 other branches to do their job and exercise their authority, but this removes no bit of the stigma from courts acting unlawfully.

And by passing on the obviously unconstitutional election (it's a slam-dunk, simple, irrefutable case in PA and GA, where election process was determined unconstitutionally), SCOTUS completely discredited itself. It's a major factor in the hollowed-out state American institutions find themselves in today.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (OTzUX)

54 You can have a gun, depending on whether you intend to commit crimes with it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (EZebt)

55 I loved my M-14. The accuracy of that weapon was fantastic.

Posted by: Archer at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (gmo/4)

56 Darth Vader Ginsburg was unavailable for comment.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (kcYij)

57 You wanna protect the 2nd Amendment?

Abolish the State of New Yawk.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (nugqt)

58 Oh. That thing I did in your mouth for the last 10 years?? Swearsies won't happen again....now just open up.....

Posted by: John Boy Roberts at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (jvt6t)

59 You want to know how the Supreme Court will rule on pretty much any topic? Ask yourself, "What would a reasonably wealthy person who lived fulltime in DC for a couple of decades and hasn't had a non-government job in three or four decades want the result to be?" And there's your answer.

Posted by: The Ghost of Pandemic Present at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (dYe5S)

60 Biden has been playing up the pack the court thing recently. I would be surprised (though who knows anymore) if he actually pushed that though. But, FDR didn't need to actually push it though to scare the court enough to get with his program. I wonder if that is the case today.

Posted by: Keith at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (jdGlx)

61 No reason in the world that the rest of us should obey the law. That's for suckers now.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (k4dH2)

This.

Posted by: Archer at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (gmo/4)

62 They also know they've been forwarded. If the rulings don't start going the Communist Democrats' way, the court will be packed until they get the rulings they want.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (O+I8R)

63 In my letters to Patrick (up to 5 now), I have consistently used the line, " how can I, as a Texan be less free than a resident of 20 other states that have Constitutional Carry?" Followed by, "if this is what we get with Republican controlled government here, with solid majorities, why should I ever vote R again?" Doubt it is helping but can't hurt. God I hate these people and they are supposedly on my side.

Posted by: Only Context at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (xEIoY)

64 forwarded=forewarned

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (O+I8R)

65 They gave official sanction to all future election-stealing. Which will be all future "elections."

Final nail in the coffin of our Republic.

Fuck the Supremes.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (Bmy3R)

66 nullity

Only if I just happen to be in that mood. Also depends on the gravitational influences of Neptune.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (EFCBR)

67 My theory is that most of SCOTUS just didn't want to touch the election cases out of self-preservation. If they "overturned" the vote by allowing actual investigation into the rampant cheating, they'd be marked for retribution. They're largely cowards for that.

Roberts has been desperate to avoid any politically charged cases. He wants to avoid a Roe v Wade type decision during his tenure. The irony is that in trying to keep the court "non-political", he's only encouraged the worst sort of political gamesmanship from the left.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (jOcSX)

68 The Vice Presidency is for suckers now too.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (kcYij)

69 Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 26, 2021 11:40 AM (z79tQ)

The Militia WAS the people. It was all able bodied Men between certain ages, by Federal Law. They were instructed to have either a musket, or Rifle, which were the standard MILITARY arms of the day, so they could for the militia into units.

If we follow the intentions of the Founders, then each of us have a DUTY to have military Arms, so we can be called into, or form, a militia.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (oHd/0)

70 The Bush Crime Family were just libs the GOP punished the base with for shoving Reagan down their pencil necks for eight glorious years. I don't know how Poppy fucked up with Thomas other than he expected him to become more lib once in place.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (y7DUB)

71 Steiner will come.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (SjW3t)

72 Posted by: Only Context at April 26, 2021 11:45 AM (xEIoY

This is exactly the right thing to do. Hammer them on it.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:47 AM (jvt6t)

73 Special need for self defense? Defense of myself is very special to me.

Posted by: huerfano at April 26, 2021 11:47 AM (DzhEB)

74 Many on the right fir years held their noses and defended Bush . No more

Posted by: Avi at April 26, 2021 11:47 AM (4SHrQ)

75 "failed to show 'proper cause' to carry a firearm in public for the purpose of self-defense,

Everyone knows that the only proper cause to carry a firearm in public is to do drive-bys on mofos from rival gangs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 11:47 AM (csxDq)

76 Yep. Illegal aliens get to ignore whatever laws they don't feel like complying with, with impunity. Blacks get special treatment. Leftists do whatever the f*ck they want. And courts, including the Supreme Court, just make up shit as they go and ignore the plain language of the constitution.

No reason in the world that the rest of us should obey the law. That's for suckers now.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (k4dH2)

You forgot state nullification of federal law when leftist states feel like it, and federal nullification of state laws when the feds choose. i.e Sanctuary laws and Arizona not being able to enforce their section of the national border.

It's Calvinball, baby!

Pirate 1: Take what you can!
Pirate 2: Aye, and give nothing back.

The new national motto.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 26, 2021 11:47 AM (z79tQ)

77 Well I am not going to decide how I feel about this until I consult with Lebron

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 11:47 AM (GPwVZ)

78 Remember how the Bushes pretended to be proLife

Posted by: Avi at April 26, 2021 11:48 AM (4SHrQ)

79 One more thing... We are now at a place and time in this country when, if the Left doesn't get what it wants, they simply call up their lawless, violent street armies to riot, to stalk the Justices' homes, families, until they also echo the sentiments of all the others put in peril. "I was afraid at what they'd do and didn't want any more rioting and violence."

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2021 11:48 AM (O+I8R)

80 I fear these guys will get punked again after a few bits of mob terror.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 11:37 AM (lmikk)

Legally carrying a weapon is rayciss. Only white people can meet the criteria, so of course you can't make laws that disproportionately benefit one group, at the expense of gangbangers and illegal mexicans.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2021 11:48 AM (bsHXp)

81 Remember how the Bushes pretended to be proLife
Posted by: Avi at April 26, 2021 11:48 AM (4SHrQ)

Was that when they were pretending to be conservatives?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (GPwVZ)

82 The Militia WAS the people. It was all able bodied Men between certain ages, by Federal Law. They were instructed to have either a musket, or Rifle, which were the standard MILITARY arms of the day, so they could for the militia into units.

If we follow the intentions of the Founders, then each of us have a DUTY to have military Arms, so we can be called into, or form, a militia.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (oHd/0)

Anytime someone tries to throw the "well-regulated" line at second amendment supporters, the response should be, "So you would support mandatory gun ownership for all men over 18, along with militia training in all high schools?"

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (jOcSX)

83 I never thought it would extend to them bending the knee to every leftist wishlist item in the future, though. We were still going to be getting conservative victories. The balance of victories for the right vs. the left was going to continue to tilt towards the right, though we were never going to get blowout cases (Chevron still deserves to die, though).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 11:38 AM (LvTSG)

Only if it involves business. Otherwise, I would expect only very narrow conservative wins.

Posted by: WiNO at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (EpDzw)

84 Prediction: Roberts will align himself with the 'conservative' majority, so he'll have a crack at tailoring the ruling more towards a punt on the question.

There is no way that he's going to allow Clarence Thomas to draw the bright lines around the Second Amendment that he's wanted to do for years.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (mdjgu)

85 forwarded=forewarned

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (O+I8R)

=forearmed
*sobs*

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (KnJdm)

86 I carry all of the time anyway, so it's not that big of a deal personally. But I would like our elected dickheads to back us up for once.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (jvt6t)

87 I saw Outlaw Private Security open for the Stones at Altamont. Some of the crowd was floored!

Posted by: Tonypete at April 26, 2021 11:43 AM (Rvt8

I saw that show, too...piercing.

Posted by: BignJames at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (AwYPR)

88 There should be a word for using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political ends.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (kcYij)

89 Roberts has been desperate to avoid any politically charged cases. He wants to avoid a Roe v Wade type decision during his tenure. The irony is that in trying to keep the court "non-political", he's only encouraged the worst sort of political gamesmanship from the left.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (jOcSX)

History will remember Traitor Roberts as the Chief Justice overseeing the trashing of respect for the judiciary.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (y7DUB)

90 67
Roberts has been desperate to avoid any politically charged cases. He wants to avoid a Roe v Wade type decision during his tenure. The irony is that in trying to keep the court "non-political", he's only encouraged the worst sort of political gamesmanship from the left.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM (jOcSX)

==========

I never accused him of being particularly bright.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

91 Prediction: Roberts will align himself with the 'conservative' majority, so he'll have a crack at tailoring the ruling more towards a punt on the question.

There is no way that he's going to allow Clarence Thomas to draw the bright lines around the Second Amendment that he's wanted to do for years.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (mdjgu)

This is correct.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (jOcSX)

92 55 I loved my M-14. The accuracy of that weapon was fantastic.
Posted by: Archer at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (gmo/4)

One question I have on these: On the M14 you had a 22 inch barrel for a .308 round. When you go down to the 16.25" on these CQB things with the same round, how much difference does that make?

I'll hang up and listen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (lmikk)

93 There should be a word for using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political ends.
Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (kcYij)

There is: Anarchy.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (GPwVZ)

94 They will find a way not to issue a definitive ruling and then send it back to the lower court.

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 26, 2021 11:51 AM (xPl2J)

95 Ace: Hopefully the Court will rule that people have a right to carry a gun..."

Pretty sad that this is where we are. The very explicit 2nd Amdt isn't enough. When words don't matter and when emanations/penumbras do, what you really have is the tyranny of man.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2021 11:51 AM (aXxgO)

96 One might argue that a strict interpretation of the Founder's intents should mean that I could have a Bofors... and a Maxim, to boot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 11:52 AM (lmikk)

97 Anytime someone tries to throw the
"well-regulated" line at second amendment supporters, the response
should be, "So you would support mandatory gun ownership for all men
over 18, along with militia training in all high schools?"

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (jOcSX)
"well-regulated"= equipped, well-organized, and well-trained. History has spoken on those points.

Also, with regard to the "not weapons of war" objection. Muskets, cannons, and privateer vessels were THE weapons of war of their day.

Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 11:52 AM (KnJdm)

98 Don't worry, I'm sure Roberts will screw us over on this too, with a 5-4 narrow decision that omits as many references to the Heller case as possible.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 26, 2021 11:52 AM (I9kJ1)

99 There should be a word for using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political ends.
Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (kcYij)

There is. It's called Politics.

Posted by: Chairman Mao at April 26, 2021 11:52 AM (z79tQ)

100 "Bear", verb, transitive: to hold, carry, pack someone or something, especially while moving, e.g., three kings (or Greeks) bearing gifts.

A word. Of unambiguous meaning. Explicit in the text of the Constitution.

But, there is no telling what it means, if it means anything at all.

"Abortion", "homosexual sodomy", etc., on the other hand; you'd are a misogynistic bigot not to know those are in the Constitution.

Posted by: ray at April 26, 2021 11:52 AM (Men5k)

101 94 They will find a way not to issue a definitive ruling and then send it back to the lower court.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 26, 2021 11:51 AM (xPl2J)

New York will grant them their permits... and the case then becomes Moot.

Thus, restarting the clock as new cases would have to go through the years long pre Supreme Litigation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 11:53 AM (oHd/0)

102 There should be a word for using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political ends.
Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (kcYij)

There is. It's called diplomacy.

Posted by: State Department at April 26, 2021 11:53 AM (z79tQ)

103 If we follow the intentions of the Founders, then each of us have a DUTY to have military Arms, so we can be called into, or form, a militia.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 11:46 AM

Check your state's constitution and laws for "unorganized militia". For instance, here in Georgia, "...the unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied male residents of the state between the ages of 17 and 45 who are not serving in any force of the organized militia...".

Posted by: Bert G at April 26, 2021 11:53 AM (sAW0o)

104 Do we really still have five conservative Justices?

Posted by: Fedup at April 26, 2021 11:53 AM (68ya+)

105 Literal Handmaiden has a book deal?

prospective title: Profiles in Cowardice?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 26, 2021 11:53 AM (Bmy3R)

106 91 Prediction: Roberts will align himself with the 'conservative' majority, so he'll have a crack at tailoring the ruling more towards a punt on the question.
There is no way that he's going to allow Clarence Thomas to draw the bright lines around the Second Amendment that he's wanted to do for years.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (mdjgu)
This is correct.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (jOcSX)

=========

From what I understand about how SCOTUS works. The majority doesn't just agree on the winner, but the scope and breadth of the victory. Narrow or broad, to simplify things.

If, in conference, Roberts agrees with the 5 and then assigns himself the task of writing the opinion only to come out with a much more narrow version than what had been agreed upon, the other 5 will essentially write a concurrence that becomes the core opinion because of their numbers.

Roberts will only join with the right if he can actually narrow the decision with the other 5 agreeing. We'll see how that works.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

107 I wouldn't get too excited about SCOTUS hearing this case. In keeping with their recent antics, "if" they decide against NYS, it'll be such a narrow ruling it won't matter.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (N39Ws)

108 Bush Jr.: The most limp-wristed Christian Conservative of significant power in modern history. Went all out to protect the Religion of Peace, though.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (aXxgO)

109 Prediction: Roberts will align himself with the 'conservative' majority, so he'll have a crack at tailoring the ruling more towards a punt on the question.

There is no way that he's going to allow Clarence Thomas to draw the bright lines around the Second Amendment that he's wanted to do for years.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (mdjgu)

Hopefully Thomas will unleash a concurring opinion anyway.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (y7DUB)

110 "failed to show 'proper cause' to carry a firearm in public for the purpose of self-defense, because [they] did not demonstrate a special need for self-defense that distinguished them from the general public."

They're saying the quiet part out loud. The general public isn't allowed the means of self-defense. Anytime I argue this with leftists, they'll immediately bristle. "You're allowed self defense!" they scream. Then I point out that if you're a small 65 year old fighting a large 20 year old, you're going to lose if you don't have a weapon.

I actually had that argument with a Aussie cop on reddit the other day. Initially he told me they are allowed self defense in Oz, it just has to be reasonable and proportionate. When I pointed the old vs young large vs small fact, he suddenly switched to "well, murders in the US are much higher, so we still keep people safer here."

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (YYlyE)

111 What powers does the chief justice have?

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (cSyAR)

112 One might argue that a strict interpretation of the Founder's intents should mean that I could have a Bofors... and a Maxim, to boot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 11:52 AM (lmikk)

Yes, you could... even true artillery.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (oHd/0)

113 Maybe with Trump out of office, Roberts won't feel like he's doing his bidding.

I say 6-3

Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (HrMC1)

114 92 55 I loved my M-14. The accuracy of that weapon was fantastic.
Posted by: Archer at April 26, 2021 11:44 AM (gmo/4)

One question I have on these: On the M14 you had a 22 inch barrel for a .308 round. When you go down to the 16.25" on these CQB things with the same round, how much difference does that make?

I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

It will reduce velocity, might need a careful selection of barrel twist and ammo to get decent performance at medium ranges, say 500y

Posted by: Jean at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (hfIrP)

115 I read somewhere that Heller dude in the Heller v D.C. thing still isn't allowed a gun or something. Anybody got an update on how that all worked out?

Posted by: Eat The Eloi at April 26, 2021 11:55 AM (V3EEC)

116 56 Darth Vader Ginsburg was unavailable for comment.
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She's available, but she's busy right now.

Posted by: Barbed Cock of Satan at April 26, 2021 11:55 AM (sWM8x)

117 "The US Constitution generally, and the Second Amendment specifically, have no standing. Next!"

Posted by: ShainS at April 26, 2021 11:55 AM (QVW9v)

118 When you go down to the 16.25" on these CQB things with the same round, how much difference does that make?

I'll hang up and listen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (lmikk)

Average loss of 22.7 fps per inch.

https://tinyurl.com/7hbbwkyn

Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 11:55 AM (KnJdm)

119 You know.

If I'm in a situation where I feel the need to carry when I leave my home, I'm going to do it regardless. If I have to pull a weapon and kill someone it won't be because I was looking for trouble. It's because I was threatened and someone else broke the law first.

Fuck asking for permission.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (W2Pud)

120 .308 velocity and barrel length: https://tinyurl.com/4xpw2bxt

Basically, you're gonna lose 200~400 FPS going to the SOCOM depending on bullet weight

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Marcus Brasswang at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (uxJPn)

121 What powers does the chief justice have?
Posted by: Northern lurker at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM (cSyAR)

Whatever SCOTUS decides he has. The Constitution doesn't specify anything except that there is a SCOTUS and a Chief Justice, and the original and appellate jurisdictions.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (jOcSX)

122 Maybe with Trump out of office, Roberts won't feel like he's doing his bidding.

I say 6-3
Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2021 11:54 AM

When we start concerning ourselves with how a judge "feels", let alone the chief judge in the land, that's when it's time to hang it all up.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (kcYij)

123 By the way Fuck that cunt kerry. Israel should take him out as a clear and present danger to the State

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (GPwVZ)

124 The tiny, invisibly small character of anyone who would be in the least intimidated by the Beltway - especially after they've got a lifetime sinecure - is nearly impossible to exaggerate.

Of course that plays no part in the behavior of the dumb affirmative action Sotomayor, or the statist/authoritarian oblast-level party hack of a Kagan or Bryer. Roberts, possibly - though as usual people default to the bad fiction "explanation" for everything (fear, blackmail), and fail to consider just how poor the judgment or intellect of so many key people really can be.

The O-care decision is an outstanding example. There is no plausible substantive basis for what Roberts did, but instead of "fear", people fail to consider just how outlandishly stupid his reasoning might have been. To protect this stupid amorphous "stature" of the court - by beclowning the institution with an obviously capricious and indefensible decision favoring something that was also opposed by the populace? Huh?

Invisibly small character and sub-mediocre intellect and judgment are far more important in the Beltway's collapse into what it is now than so many people seem to understand.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (OTzUX)

125 Ace: Hopefully the Court will rule that people have a right to carry a gun..."

Pretty sad that this is where we are. The very explicit 2nd Amdt isn't enough. When words don't matter and when emanations/penumbras do, what you really have is the tyranny of man.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2021 11:51 AM (aXxgO)

Of COURSE you have the right to carry a gun. You just don't have a right to use* it.

*Use includes pointing it in the general direction of people who are threatening your person and property.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (bsHXp)

126 "this sad cuck closet-masturbator"
........

don't get any on your robes

Posted by: wth at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (v0R5T)

127 I thought it was SCROTUS from now on.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (kcYij)

128 111 What powers does the chief justice have?

Faster than a speeding stolen election
More powerful than any elected official
Able to leap the will of the people with a single gavel pound

It's a Progressive! It's a Liberal! It's John Iscariot Roberts!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (Bmy3R)

129 Do we really still have five conservative Justices?
Posted by: Fedup at April 26, 2021 11:53 AM (68ya+)

No. Kavanaugh is Kennedy 2 (and surely his condition of retiring) and ACB will be a major con job on crucial votes.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (y7DUB)

130 > Hopefully Thomas will unleash a concurring opinion anyway.

Isn't that just feel-good-ism? If Roberts writes the decision and it's decided on a one in a billion cases element, narrow, highly technical waffle, we haven't actually moved the needle.

I'm not a law-talking guy, so maybe I'm wrong, but aren't concurring opinions just non-binding commentary?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (YYlyE)

131 How much are 20mm rounds?

Can 'ammo seek' spurce some for me?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid with aa gun in front yard at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (n/szn)

132 99 There should be a word for using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political ends.
Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (kcYij)

There is. The word is, "government".

"Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us." - Leo Tolstoy.

Posted by: ray at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (Men5k)

133 Prediction: Roberts will align himself with the 'conservative' majority, so he'll have a crack at tailoring the ruling more towards a punt on the question.

There is no way that he's going to allow Clarence Thomas to draw the bright lines around the Second Amendment that he's wanted to do for years.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 26, 2021 11:49 AM (mdjgu)
++++
That's a sniveling, cowardly, fence-sitting approach, so it is likely correct.

The other possibility is that he just aligns with the Left and so narrowly interprets the second amendment that he ends it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2021 11:58 AM (Jsjd7)

134 When we start concerning ourselves with how a judge "feels", let alone the chief judge in the land, that's when it's time to hang it all up.
Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (kcYij)

I agree

Just noting that Roberts loathes Trump and feels like thwarting his agenda is his moral and patriotic duty.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2021 11:58 AM (HrMC1)

135 Fuck asking for permission.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (W2Pud)

Says a woman who intends to live free!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 26, 2021 11:58 AM (z79tQ)

136 Whatever happened with the time Schumer threatened the supreme court?

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 26, 2021 11:58 AM (cSyAR)

137 136 Whatever happened with the time Schumer threatened the supreme court?
Posted by: Northern lurker at April 26, 2021 11:58 AM (cSyAR)

===========

"I'm happy to be degraded by a moral man than respected by a bad man."
-Roberts

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 11:59 AM (LvTSG)

138 Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run

LMAO

In the democratic party I assume?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 11:59 AM (GPwVZ)

139 > Basically, you're gonna lose 200~400 FPS going to the SOCOM depending on bullet weight

If you're looking for a CQB rifle, or something that you're only going to use in urban environments out to 500ish yards, you're not losing much.

If you're looking for a rifle for match shooting out to 800+ yards, you probably don't want an M14 clone anyway. You want something more like an Accuracy International 338 Lapua bolt gun.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 11:59 AM (YYlyE)

140 138 Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run

LMAO

In the democratic party I assume?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 11:59 AM (GPwVZ)

========

It got her name in the papers. That's what's important.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 11:59 AM (LvTSG)

141 No standing.

Posted by: The *High* Court at April 26, 2021 11:59 AM (rXie1)

142 What are the rules in the Autonomous Zone?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 26, 2021 11:59 AM (63Dwl)

143 136 Whatever happened with the time Schumer threatened the supreme court?

Roberts sent him a pretend strongly-worded letter. They both had a good laugh about it later over cocktails.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 26, 2021 11:59 AM (Bmy3R)

144 I have no reason to trust the sc to protect my rights. I have no reason to believe the fed government will protect my rights. I definitely have no reason to expect my state to protect my rights. Shall not be infringed is a high bar for a reason. The moment the 2a falls is the moment it needs to be used.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (0OmEj)

145 That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed

Posted by: 1792 Militia Act at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (oHd/0)

146 Sometimes when I check the 'net I realize I'd be better off going back outside and watching Mr and Mrs Duck walking around the lawn in the middle of the cul-de-sac plucking worms out of the ground.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (8erNz)

147 My guess is that the court might have decided that they've already said everything that they needed to say, so why do more?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (KZzsI)

148 How does "outside the home" work if you're homeless? Do homeless people lose their right to keep and bear arms?

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (kD3S+)

149 Agree on Kerry, he went past Logan and acted as a traitor to this country with his Persian hijinks.

Posted by: Only Context at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (xEIoY)

150
We'd rather just sit here naked under our robes.

Posted by: The *High* Court at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (rXie1)

151 That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia, by the Captain or Commanding Officer of the company, within whose bounds such citizen shall reside, and that within twelve months after the passing of this Act.

Posted by: 1792 Militia Act at April 26, 2021 12:01 PM (oHd/0)

152 There should be a word for using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political ends.
Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (kcYij)

There is. The word is, "government". "Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us." - Leo Tolstoy.

Posted by: ray at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (Men5k)

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun - Mao Some truths are timeless.

Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 12:01 PM (KnJdm)

153 In fairness to both Bush and the federalist society they might not have known about whatever the left has on him at the time of his nomination

Posted by: datechguy at April 26, 2021 12:01 PM (l7wOs)

154 Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run

Republican voters are not ruling it IN

Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2021 12:01 PM (HrMC1)

155 >>Agree on Kerry, he went past Logan and acted as a traitor to this country with his Persian hijinks.

He should have had his neck stretched when he did this shit with the Palestinians.

Kerry has been working against US Interests, without authority, for well over 20 years.

He deserves something less honorable than a bullet.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:02 PM (esxgB)

156 Having given up on this institution quite a while ago, and the ridiculously easy and straightforward task of enforcing the simple clear requirements of the 2A, I haven't followed this case - but I thought NY beclowned itself by withdrawing/changing the law to render the case moot? Or was that another case?

The collapse of the US into such a ridiculous lawless place, with states playing pre-teen games with SCOTUS like that, is still amazing.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 26, 2021 12:02 PM (OTzUX)

157 HB1238 is the Constitutional Carry Bill. Pending in Committee at this time, but is scheduled to move out sometime this week. If you live in Texas, let the House Homeland Security & Public Safety Committee know how you feel.

As a bonus, the committee clerk is smoking hot.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:02 PM (jvt6t)

158 Guns? I'll show you some guns.

Posted by: Stacey Abrams, Topless at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (9vQJW)

159 Having given up on this institution quite a while ago, and the ridiculously easy and straightforward task of enforcing the simple clear requirements of the 2A, I haven't followed this case - but I thought NY beclowned itself by withdrawing/changing the law to render the case moot? Or was that another case?

I think they've done it a couple of times on various issues.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (jOcSX)

160 Shall not be infringed is a high bar for a reason. The moment the 2a falls is the moment it needs to be used.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (0OmEj)

TMEMOM EHT

Posted by: As seen from the rearview mirror at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (z79tQ)

161 If I'm in a situation where I feel the need to carry when I leave my home, I'm going to do it regardless. If I have to pull a weapon and kill someone it won't be because I was looking for trouble. It's because I was threatened and someone else broke the law first.

Fuck asking for permission.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (W2Pud)

Law says you have to call LeBron first.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

162 >>Posted by: 1792 Militia Act at April 26, 2021 12:01 PM (oHd/0)

Selective Service, my friend.

ALL Men over the age of 18 have been enrolled in the Federal Militia.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (esxgB)

163 Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run

I'm also not ruling out a bid to become the president of the Horde's hearts by 2024 either. Just thought you'd wanna know.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (H5knJ)

164 How much are 20mm rounds?

Can 'ammo seek' spurce some for me?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid with aa gun in front yard at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (n/szn)

20mm explosive rounds count as a 'destructive device', each. So very, very pricey for legal purchases.

20mm solid does exist...somewhere. Best bet is to buy overseas or maybe Anzio Ironworks, if they're still around might sell solids

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Marcus Brasswang at April 26, 2021 12:04 PM (uxJPn)

165 OT: House just passed DC statehood, so there is that.

Posted by: Joe Mama at April 26, 2021 12:04 PM (UYP1T)

166 Do we really still have five conservative Justices?
Posted by: Fedup

It's 7-2 liberal or 9-0 liberal depending on the question.
Remember, Alito and Thomas only wanted to hear Trump's election argument for the sake of appearances. They were never going to vote in the affirmative.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2021 12:04 PM (OCTRt)

167 Agree on Kerry, he went past Logan and acted as a traitor to this country with his Persian hijinks.

He should have had his neck stretched when he did this shit with the Palestinians.

Kerry has been working against US Interests, without authority, for well over 20 years.

He deserves something less honorable than a bullet.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:02 PM (esxgB)

Gerald Bull crossed Israel also...Just saying

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 12:04 PM (GPwVZ)

168 The very unPC show IN HOT WATER (Compound Media) is selling a limited number of guns I soo want one
https://tinyurl.com/b967y6ay

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 26, 2021 12:04 PM (+CTPk)

169 What they've done in NYC is to create a scheme that denies carry at their discretion. Many of the surrounding counties have done the same, except they create another level of scheme that includes a Sportsman/Residence license. That way they can't completely keep you from owning a handgun, just deny you the ability to carry at will. The only people they grant a "full" carry license to are LEO's and retired LEO's who are apparently the only people NY feels the Second Amendment covers.
I am glad they took this case. History, tradition and the Framers own writings indicate The Second Amendment was meant to exist outside the home. Denying people the right to carry was always the Democrats unchallenged subversion. But what I fear from a Roberts Court are more subversion of process for the Blue States disguised as "balance". That's the hallmark of this court. They just can't say "it is your right to carry and protect yourself outside the home" which is the key issue left unresolved from Heller.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (VpIIl)

170 Selective Service, my friend.

ALL Men over the age of 18 have been enrolled in the Federal Militia.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (esxgB)

I still laugh that I got a 'notice' that I had not registered for Selective Service... and it was sent to my Fleet Post Office Address.

My friends made fun of me for that for years.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (oHd/0)

171 >>OT: House just passed DC statehood, so there is that.

Blatantly Un-Constitutional.

DC is expressly forbidden from becoming a State.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (esxgB)

172 163 "Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run"

I'm also not ruling out a bid to become the president of the Horde's hearts by 2024 either. Just thought you'd wanna know.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (H5knJ)

*makes note to assassinate and collect check from HRC*

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (z5Vrg)

173 While the election process means diddly-poo, tell me that the establishment GOPe/Republicans/MAGA are not openly running and supporting Bruce Jenner in California.
Are they the real accelerationists after all?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (IdnEA)

174 Kerry has been working against US Interests, without authority, for well over 20 years.

He deserves something less honorable than a bullet.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:02 PM (esxgB)

Wasn't he in europe negotiating with the North Vietnamese while the war raged on?

Posted by: As seen from the rearview mirror at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (z79tQ)

175 Someone a while back mentioned something about Roberts that makes a lot of sense.

He doesn't want to make any really controversial decisions. He does not want the court to do that.

Its not impossible that this is driven by a desire to downplay the Supreme Court's status and importance, which has grown insanely out of control over the centuries. If so, that's a noble goal, but poorly executed. Dodging cases doesn't lower the power of the court, it just avoids dealing with real problems.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 26, 2021 12:06 PM (KZzsI)

176 145 That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock

So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it, and maybe those with sufficient space should have whatever M109 variant the Army has deemed surplus, and those with sufficient means should have whatever F-16 or F-18 variant the respective services have deemed surplus.

I'd be on board with that. Just make sure that neighbor with the M109A5 likes cornbread before you take it over.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:06 PM (8erNz)

177 How much are 20mm rounds?

Can 'ammo seek' spurce some for me?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid with aa gun in front yard at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (n/szn)

You gotta roll your own 20mm. I know of zero commercial sources.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at April 26, 2021 12:06 PM (N3El/)

178
Blatantly Un-Constitutional.

DC is expressly forbidden from becoming a State.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (esxgB)

It's cute you think that matters now.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

179 111 What powers does the chief justice have?
____________

The CJ presides over the court's public sessions, he presides over the court's private conferences (where they decide what cases they'll hear and vote on the cases they've heard), he decides who write the court's majority opinion (in those cases where he has voted with the majority; if he's in the minority, then the most senior judge in the majority decides who writes the opinion). The CJ is also the administrative head of the entire federal judiciary, and he chooses the members of important policy-making committees, among other things.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2021 12:06 PM (k4dH2)

180 > I have no reason to trust the sc to protect my rights.

Whaaaaaaaaaat? You mean the same body of intellectual sophisticates that said black people could never be Americans, that interring people for no reason other than their race was okie dokie, that child labor is cool, that forced sterilization was dope, that separate but equal was delicious, that the government can force you out of your property if a developer can improve your property and increase tax yields on it, that the government can force you to purchase a product you don't want from a private business. You mean those guys might not make a correct decision that protects rights?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (YYlyE)

181 "Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run"

I'm also not ruling out a bid to become the president of the Horde's hearts by 2024 either. Just thought you'd wanna know.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (H5knJ)

I am not ruling out making it with Kate Upton in 2021.

Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (KnJdm)

182 Gun rights? Court rulings? Whatever.

Posted by: Washington DC at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (2SdPm)

183 Liz Cheney lives in a bubble surrounded by yes men. Liz, forget about those polls showing the people of your own state hate you. You're loved everywhere else! Slay, Queen!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (kTF2Z)

184 >>It's cute you think that matters now.

Look. They expressly outlined it in our Founding Documents.

Fuck - Even allowing them Representation was unconsitutional.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (esxgB)

185 I agree that this is a lawless land. Full of capricious and unequal whim enforcement.

Posted by: Shirley Q. Liquor at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (PpDo3)

186 "Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run"

Liz Cheney also not ruling out in she will grow a dick in 2024.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:08 PM (VpIIl)

187 seems an overly optimistic view to me.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 26, 2021 12:08 PM (uk6Gp)

188 Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (YYlyE)

My favorite is still when the Supremes ruled that a Farmer growing grain to feed his OWN chickens, was somehow INTERSTATE Commerce.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 12:08 PM (oHd/0)

189 The moment the 2a falls is the moment it needs to be used.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at April 26, 2021 12:00 PM (0OmEj)

Nice turn of a phrase.
Im stealing it.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 26, 2021 12:08 PM (HPSCb)

190 I am not ruling out making it with Kate Upton in 2021.
Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (KnJdm)

You can bet your ass Verlander has a carry permit so be careful LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 12:08 PM (GPwVZ)

191 184 >>It's cute you think that matters now.

Look. They expressly outlined it in our Founding Documents.

Fuck - Even allowing them Representation was unconsitutional.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (esxgB)

It's almost like letting the court dominate the affairs of the country is a bad idea.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at April 26, 2021 12:08 PM (z5Vrg)

192 It would be hi-larious to see Kerry get wiped out while colluding with the mullahs. Israel issues a writ of My Bad while the good guys point and laugh.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (uhPTO)

193
Blatantly Un-Constitutional.

DC is expressly forbidden from becoming a State.
Posted by: garrett

Super-easy. Barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: DNC Pitch Guy at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (UYP1T)

194 I don't give a fuck what they rule.

Posted by: garrett

Ditto. Five bastards telling me my constitutional right has magically disappeared because they operate at an intellectual level above us serfs will get a go fvck yourself from me. I'll fucking open carry everywhere.

When all other rights are taken away, the right of rebellion is made perfect.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * ammo is still scarce so I bought me a frying pan at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (97gFB)

195 In fairness to both Bush and the federalist society they might not have known about whatever the left has on him at the time of his nomination
Posted by: datechguy at April 26, 2021 12:01 PM (l7wOs)

This is the main reason you vet someone. The confirmation hearings have turned into such lib dominated shit shows that this is another Failure Theater production where they sit on their dead asses and don't change a fucking thing.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (y7DUB)

196 So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

It's worked well for Israel.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (jvt6t)

197 Fuck - Even allowing them Representation was unconsitutional.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (esxgB)

===

She sits and bloviates, but has no vote.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (EZebt)

198
Look. They expressly outlined it in our Founding Documents.

Fuck - Even allowing them Representation was unconsitutional.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (esxgB)

Shall not be infringed hasn't stopped them. What other words do they need to adhere to?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)

199 You can bet your ass Verlander has a carry permit so be careful LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 12:08 PM (GPwVZ)

He seems like a big gun guy, so I am guessing .45.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:10 PM (lmikk)

200 HB1238 is the Constitutional Carry Bill. Pending in Committee at this time, but is scheduled to move out sometime this week. If you live in Texas, let the House Homeland Security & Public Safety Committee know how you feel.

As a bonus, the committee clerk is smoking hot.
Posted by: Jak Sucio

HB 1927 was the original CC Bill.
SB 2224 was the Senate Amended bill.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2021 12:10 PM (OCTRt)

201 Look. They expressly outlined it in our Founding Documents.

Fuck - Even allowing them Representation was unconsitutional.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (esxgB)

Lawless country.
This is the Land of Wolves now, as you should know.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Marcus Brasswang at April 26, 2021 12:10 PM (uxJPn)

202 Since Roberts undoubtedly will be in the dissent on this case, as he'll take the Biden Admin's threats to add four more justices to the court seriously and will knuckle under because of that threat, that means Associate Justice Thomas will be senior justice on the majority side, and will be the one to designate who writes the decision.

My guess is that Thomas will write it himself, and will write a decision that will make DC vs. Heller look like a Commie wrote it. As a last hurrah before the Court is destroyed by the DemonRats, Thomas must be thinking that a rock-solid decision that cements 2nd Amendment Rights in the individual citizenry is the way to go.

From my fingertips to Justice Thomas's keyboard.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2021 12:10 PM (GckyN)

203 And by 'big guns', I mean boobs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:10 PM (lmikk)

204 "Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run"
---
I wanna bear Liz Cheney's children.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at April 26, 2021 12:10 PM (sWM8x)

205 Whatever Scotus does, this case would not have been granted cert unless there were four votes--Thomas, Alito, certainly, and then probably Gorsuch and perhaps Kavanaugh (see his DC Circuit opinions for that prediction). If they thought ACB was shaky, they probably would not have voted to grant cert.

As far as Roberts goes, he can assign the initial opinion but what makes law is the final one that is actually issued. You still have to get five votes on who wins and who loses. After that, to make binding precedent, you need five justices on that final opinion issued.

Roberts will undoubtedly want to limit the scope of any ruling but not sure that he will be able to play that stunt this time. CJ Burger was known to be a political hack and played games with assigning opinions and granting cert. That earned him the dislike of pretty much all the other justices, liberal AND conservative. Burger left the court more or less because his influence on his colleagues was more or less nil by the end of his term as CJ. Roberts is probably heading down that same path.

Posted by: whig at April 26, 2021 12:10 PM (pO7gM)

206 None of this matters anymore since I lost my guns in that boating accident.

Posted by: dingbat at April 26, 2021 12:11 PM (7/eB9)

207 Dodging cases doesn't lower the power of the court, it just avoids dealing with real problems.

As I see it, the ideal court would constrain itself to trimming the ends off the legislative/ideological spectrum. But they've worked themselves into a box.

Do we yet have a Supreme Court ruling to ban civil asset forfeiture? This should be bipartisan low-hanging fruit, but...

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:11 PM (8erNz)

208 I am not ruling out making it with Kate Upton in 2021.
Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 12:07 PM (KnJdm)

You can bet your ass Verlander has a carry permit so be careful LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 12:08 PM (GPwVZ)

If he threw a fastball at your head, even without a warmup, you're still in deep kimchi.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (z79tQ)

209 Do we really still have five conservative Justices?
Posted by: Fedup at April 26, 2021 11:53 AM (68ya+)

Chances are pretty good in 50 states you'd still come up short.

Posted by: clutch cargo - 100% beef based beer at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (4FeUN)

210 206 None of this matters anymore since I lost my guns in that boating accident.
Posted by: dingbat at April 26, 2021 12:11 PM (7/eB9)

Davy Jones is very well armed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (lmikk)

211 196 So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

It's worked well for Israel.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (jvt6t)

Switzerland.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (oHd/0)

212 ALL Men over the age of 18 have been enrolled in the Federal Militia.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:03 PM (esxgB)

I still laugh that I got a 'notice' that I had not registered for Selective Service... and it was sent to my Fleet Post Office Address.

My friends made fun of me for that for years.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (oHd/0)

***

Still have my draft card.
Gonna burn it one day.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (HPSCb)

213 I never accused him of being particularly bright.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

And most certainly not courageous. What's he afraid of, losing his job?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (etdR+)

214 "Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run"

Is she getting kicked out of her Senate seat?

'Cause that would explain it. One last grasp to stick out her purse to scoop up retirement money.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (aXxgO)

215 It won't matter to me what they say. They lost all respect when they knifed the USA. I will do what I want.

Posted by: megthered at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (SM/op)

216 I'm not ruling out selling 8 million books in 2024.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 26, 2021 12:13 PM (KZzsI)

217 Michelle Obama has the right to bare arms at the gun show amirite?

Posted by: Liberal Renfields in 2010 at April 26, 2021 12:13 PM (+zMMh)

218 So does striking this down mean that carry is a constitutional right?

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:13 PM (yrol0)

219 So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

It's worked well for Israel.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (jvt6t)

And every citizen should have to serve 1 year in the armed forces, even if it's the fucking typing pool.

If they want to vote.

Posted by: clutch cargo - 100% beef based beer at April 26, 2021 12:13 PM (4FeUN)

220 Can ammoseek get me some rounds for my 155?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 26, 2021 12:14 PM (0UNjH)

221 SB 2224 was the Senate Amended bill.

And that was introduced on 4-22 as a companion to the original that was killed. They are getting the message, but now is the time to reach out and make yourself heard.

Thanks for the update.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:14 PM (jvt6t)

222 Somebody here has an Oerlikon 20mm they need to feed?

Impressive.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 26, 2021 12:14 PM (OTzUX)

223 Can't Grandpa Biden just sign an executive order telling the Supreme Court to go to hell, I'm in charge now. (Along with my side kick Kamala)

Posted by: Colin at April 26, 2021 12:14 PM (kdBTe)

224 Our current resident in chief is the one who abused Thomas the worst.

Posted by: Infidel at April 26, 2021 12:14 PM (E0OEG)

225 Since Roberts undoubtedly will be in the dissent on this case, as he'll take the Biden Admin's threats to add four more justices to the court seriously and will knuckle under because of that threat, that means Associate Justice Thomas will be senior justice on the majority side, and will be the one to designate who writes the decision.

Roberts is such a bedwetter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:15 PM (3J8sa)

226 196 So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

It's worked well for Israel.

And Switzerland, though not necessarily 5.56.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:15 PM (8erNz)

227 And every citizen should have to serve 1 year in the armed forces, even if it's the fucking typing pool.

The way the armed forces are leaning now, i am not sure that is a good thing.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 26, 2021 12:15 PM (0UNjH)

228 Black Lives Matter
@Blklivesmatter
Ma'Khia Bryant. We say her name.

Another Black life stolen. But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.

We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen.

Rest in power, Queen.

-
It was just a knife fight. You know, like the knife fight OJ got into.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2021 12:15 PM (VVEnO)

229 211 196 So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

It's worked well for Israel.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:09 PM (jvt6t)

Switzerland.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (oHd/0)

And probably a 9 in whatever the current platform is so that magazines are interchangeable.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:15 PM (yrol0)

230 > So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

I don't think anyone should buy a 3d printer, download files from thegatalog dot com, and never EVER print a lower.

Also you definitely should NOT learn how to make your own barrels using electrochemical machining, which is way too easy to do once you print up a few parts.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 12:15 PM (YYlyE)

231 Is she getting kicked out of her Senate seat?

'Cause that would explain it. One last grasp to stick out her purse to scoop up retirement money.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:12 PM (aXxgO)

She's not in the Senate. She got badly trounced when she primaried the incumbent, Mike Enzi iirc, years ago. Then she ran for the House seat.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:16 PM (y7DUB)

232 Rep. Liz Cheney not ruling out 2024 presidential run

--

In the parlance of today...

OMG and LOL!

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2021 12:16 PM (O+I8R)

233 I'm probably going to be willowed, but this is worth posting anyway.

Have you ever wanted to ask Paul Ryan how he was able to get such a conservative agenda passed for our standard-bearer, Donald Trump, while he was Speaker of the House?

Have you wanted to know how he's spent his post-Congressional career trying to continue the cause by stewarding Fox as a board member?

Have you simply wanted to thank him for his service to Conservatism, and to his hero Jack Kemp?

You'll have your chance on 10 May 2021, at 4:30 PM EDT. He's having a Conversation with the W.F. Buckley Program via Zoom.

Link in my nic.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 26, 2021 12:16 PM (mdjgu)

234 One hilarious exercise is to ask "how would one formulate a protection any more categorical and absolute than that which is done in the 2A? What would the phrasing be?"

I've done with a few people over the years.

Blank stares.

Yet our collapsed system pretends to believe that panels of unaccountable people are needed to interpret plain language of foundational laws.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 26, 2021 12:16 PM (OTzUX)

235 To clarify, the CJ gets to assign the INITIAL opinion to a justice if the CJ is in the majority. There have been times, particularly during Burger's tenure, where the final majority opinion of a decision is written by someone other than who was given the initial assignment because that initial opinion did not attract five justices signing on to it.

You have to have five at least to become the majority opinion at the time when it is issued publicly by the court. If less than five but a majority agrees on who wins (merits) but not why (the opinion),then generally it is a plurality opinion with concurrences and possibly dissents.

Posted by: whig at April 26, 2021 12:16 PM (pO7gM)

236 228 Black Lives Matter
@Blklivesmatter
Ma'Khia Bryant. We say her name. Another Black life stolen. But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.
We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen.
Rest in power, Queen.

-
It was just a knife fight. You know, like the knife fight OJ got into.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2021 12:15 PM (VVEnO)

==========

If BLM isn't approaching self-parody for large sections of the population now, then it never will.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

237 And every citizen should have to serve 1 year in the armed forces, even if it's the fucking typing pool.

If they want to vote.
Posted by: clutch cargo - 100% beef based beer at April 26, 2021 12:13 PM (4FeUN)

Have you read the Colonels books about Turnbull?

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:16 PM (yrol0)

238 Gun Thread!!

Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2021 12:17 PM (MVjcR)

239 What I would love to see Thomas Wright:

The constitution is very clear on this issue. The right of the people to keep and bear arms was not granted by congress and can not be infringed upon. If congress wishes to change the constitution, the founders included a mechanism for just that purpose. Short of that, the constitution means what it says; the people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Also, eat my shorts, John.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 12:17 PM (kTF2Z)

240 So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

Semiauto rifle in 5.56, 300 rounds of ammo, and a first aid kit.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 26, 2021 12:17 PM (jOcSX)

241 How much are 20mm rounds?

Can 'ammo seek' spurce some for me?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid with aa gun in front yard at April 26, 2021 11:57 AM (n/szn)

You gotta roll your own 20mm. I know of zero commercial sources.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at April 26, 2021 12:06 PM (N3El/)

I don't know if any of this stuff is useful...but it is pricey.

https://www.cdvs.us/product-category/large-bore/20mm/

Posted by: BignJames at April 26, 2021 12:17 PM (AwYPR)

242 Michelle Obama has the right to bare arms at the gun show amirite?
Posted by: Liberal Renfields in 2010 at April 26, 2021 12:13 PM (+zMMh)

Yes.

Posted by: Baby Arm Holding An Apple at April 26, 2021 12:17 PM (IdnEA)

243 So, somehow the oscars lost 50% of their viewers from last year, which was the lowest rated in history?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:18 PM (lmikk)

244 >>Black Lives Matter
@Blklivesmatter
Ma'Khia Bryant. We say her name. Another Black life stolen. But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.
We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen.
Rest in power, Queen.

Jesus. That's one way to keep the folks at the BabylonBee from doing their job.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:18 PM (esxgB)

245 Another Black life stolen. But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.

We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun, knifing people. Just being a teen.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:18 PM (3J8sa)

246 "Posted by: whig at April 26, 2021 12:10 PM (pO7gM)
"

Pretty close to what you said. Another hallmark of this court is to rule on narrow constitutional questions. In this case it will be- does the Second Amendment apply outside the home. The answer to that is- yes.

I grow uncertain from there as to what else comes out of this ruling. Will they outright state that people have a right to carry outside the home? Will they craft language that allows states to subvert the application process, having the same effect as a denial to carry? These are the real questions.

A clear ruling these schemes are subversion, and people can not be denied the right to freely carry, will cause people who already have a "limited" permit (sportsman, hunting, etc) to immediately gain a full carry permit as a result of the ruling, thus ending the usurpation of their rights. I doubt this court has the balls to let that happen

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:18 PM (VpIIl)

247 Fuck, practically every church in my town has BLM signs out front.

Churches pledging fealty to the communists who overthrew our Republic is not a good look. To me it isn't, anyway. But as an alien on my own planet, what do I know.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 26, 2021 12:19 PM (Bmy3R)

248 Fucking New Hampshire has it. Texas legislators should be ashamed of themselves.

Texas has an unusually high number of Communists and outright haters of Western Civilization (mostly CA and NY emigrants) They haven't become majority yet, but they are absolutely terrified of firearms and will harass the authorities to no end on the thought that a firearm may be within miles.

Also, Texas legislature meets rather infrequently so a lot of other business piles up, specifically what theater to show over the pasts and future energy collapses.

The grid and energy generation is so far behind and flakey that last weekend the State told Texans that they should go buy emergency supplies and generators and gave them a weekend tax holiday to help people save themselves from the shitty ERCOT criminals who permanently destroyed the grid.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 26, 2021 12:19 PM (9+XKm)

249 Israel should take him out as a clear and present danger to the State
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 26, 2021 11:56 AM (GPwVZ)

Sure. I mean acts of war are a wonderful way to do things.

I despise the man and this installed administration. However, foreign powers need to butt out.

Posted by: WiNO at April 26, 2021 12:19 PM (EpDzw)

250 Good news for Moron Nation: today is Lesbian Visibility Day. I understand there are visible lesbians on PronHub.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (ZGrMX)

251 243 So, somehow the oscars lost 50% of their viewers from last year, which was the lowest rated in history?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:18 PM (lmikk)

==========

You know the problem the Oscars have developed of nominating films that no one has seen or cares about?

Yeah, that got a whole lot worse this year when Hollywood cheered the closing down of all economic activity in order to get at Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

252 If the police had never arrived on the scene no one, absolutely no one, would have remember Ma'khai's victim's name.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (cSyAR)

253 It's positively criminal that a Ender-3 V2 3D Printer is currently $279 at Amazon.

https://amzn.to/3tXJ9AA

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (YYlyE)

254 If ~~Woody had gone to the Police~~ Ma'Khia had cleaned her room, this would never have happened.

Posted by: A Fritz Lang Joint at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (esxgB)

255 @Blklivesmatter
Ma'Khia Bryant. We say her name. Another Black life stolen. But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.
We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen.

--

BLM is a ludicrous joke. They are swiftly becoming beyond parody by others. They are parodying themselves.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (O+I8R)

256 So, somehow the oscars lost 50% of their viewers from last year, which was the lowest rated in history?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26,

Pssst. That's next thread.

Posted by: Beartooth at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (os3HJ)

257 Black Lives Matter
@Blklivesmatter
Ma'Khia Bryant. We say her name. Another Black life stolen. But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.
We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen.
Rest in power, Queen.

These people are such assholes
I hate how they have to make sure everyone knows their stupid names

I'm not heartless. It was a 15 year old girl. But that police officer prevented her from descending into Hell for killing that other girl.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (HrMC1)

258 @Blklivesmatter
Ma'Khia Bryant. We say her name. Another Black life stolen. But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.
We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen.
Rest in power, Queen.

Because teens of every race are trying to knife their friends all the time.

It's SOP for teens. No Lives Matter.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)

259 Ok, won't be using talk to text anymore.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (kTF2Z)

260 Fucking New Hampshire has it. Texas legislators should be ashamed of themselves.

Fucking Oklahoma has it. Talk about hiding your face in public.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (OCTRt)

261 I wonder if there is any truth to the rumor that clerks were essentially making a lot of the decisions on what gets reviewed for cert...

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (VpIIl)

262 241 How much are 20mm rounds?

20 buckshot, same as in town.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (w9Wax)

263 250 Good news for Moron Nation: today is Lesbian Visibility Day. I understand there are visible lesbians on PronHub.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (ZGrMX)

Busty?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (lmikk)

264 261 I wonder if there is any truth to the rumor that clerks were essentially making a lot of the decisions on what gets reviewed for cert...
Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (VpIIl)

==========

Clerks aren't writing 90% of the opinions?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a Lynchian nightmare at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

265 Damn alien drunken drivers!

SpaceX Starship Had Near Miss Collision With UFO

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (VVEnO)

266
Fucking Oklahoma has it. Talk about hiding your face in public.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (OCTRt)

Oklahoma had open carry for 25 years before Texas. It's mindboggling.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)

267 >> Fuck the Supremes.

Yeah Diana Ross was pretty hot back in the day.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (uWF4x)

268 > I still laugh that I got a 'notice' that I had not registered for Selective Service... and it was sent to my Fleet Post Office Address.

My Dad got drafted when he was in basic training.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (YYlyE)

269 DC is expressly forbidden from becoming a State.
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:05 PM (esxgB)

Well now it identifies as one

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (kcYij)

270 260 Fucking New Hampshire has it. Texas legislators should be ashamed of themselves.

Fucking Oklahoma has it. Talk about hiding your face in public.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (OCTRt)

That does not work as well in the age of masks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (lmikk)

271 A clear ruling these schemes are subversion, and people can not be denied the right to freely carry, will cause people who already have a "limited" permit (sportsman, hunting, etc) to immediately gain a full carry permit as a result of the ruling, thus ending the usurpation of their rights. I doubt this court has the balls to let that happen
Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:18 PM (VpIIl)

It will be narrow with a 20 step process to determine the Constitutionality of the permit requirements. Then there will be a dozen more lawsuits as jurisdictions ignore the clear meaning. SCOTUS will then refuse to hear those cases.

Posted by: WiNO at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (EpDzw)

272 263 250 Good news for Moron Nation: today is Lesbian Visibility Day. I understand there are visible lesbians on PronHub.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (ZGrMX)

So anyone who wants to can watch?

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (cSyAR)

273 Good news for Moron Nation: today is Lesbian Visibility Day. I understand there are visible lesbians on PronHub.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (ZGrMX)

Lesbian Visibility? Sounds like a Weather term,

"Lesbian Visibility will be low as the fag rolls in....."

Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (HrMC1)

274 John Roberts considers the 2nd Amendment a tax and he's going to regulate it.

Posted by: Jay in PA at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (OasaJ)

275 Because teens of every race are trying to knife their friends all the time.

It's SOP for teens. No Lives Matter.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)

Blacks' Knives Matter.

Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (KnJdm)

276 "Ma'Khia Bryant. She had her whole life ahead of her, including an upcoming cameo on Forged in Fire. We will miss her stabbyness"

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (VpIIl)

277 Why is the Texas senate balking over constitutional carry? Let me guess, "Wild Wild West and blood in the streets?"

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (kTF2Z)

278 So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

Semiauto rifle in 5.56, 300 rounds of ammo, and a first aid kit.
Posted by: Colorado Alex

Check, check & check.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (OCTRt)

279 And every citizen should have to serve 1 year in the armed forces, even if it's the fucking typing pool.

If they want to vote.

Y'know, my real potential military years were mostly Ford/Carter days, just post-draft, and it seemed like a bad idea. The mess at the end of Vietnam, the Mayaguez fuckup and Desert One kinda took any thought out of my mind.

In retrospect, this much later, I think it's a good idea. We had a much better citizenry after everyone was forced to mingle in WWII. My ne'er-do-well nephew came out of the Navy vastly better for his time.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (8erNz)

280 I don't trust the Amy
Posted by: kallisto

ISWYDT

Posted by: JT at April 26, 2021 12:23 PM (arJlL)

281 Fuck the Supremes.

Yeah Diana Ross was pretty hot back in the day.
Posted by: 40 Miles North at April 26, 2021 12:21 PM (uWF4x)

Mary Wilson> Diana Ross

Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2021 12:23 PM (HrMC1)

282 Good news for Moron Nation: today is Lesbian Visibility Day. I understand there are visible lesbians on PronHub.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (ZGrMX)

Busty?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Redheads with Thai friends?

Posted by: Jean at April 26, 2021 12:23 PM (hfIrP)

283 Wonder how many opposing replies to that stupid BLM Twatter post will be deleted and banned by the Twatternazis.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2021 12:23 PM (O+I8R)

284 I spoke with John Roberts' sister Peggy the night before his confirmation hearings began. She was terrified that anyone would ask her anything about her brother. Should have known then...

Posted by: Timon at April 26, 2021 12:23 PM (HMiTn)

285 >>Why is the Texas senate balking over constitutional carry? Let me guess, "Wild Wild West and blood in the streets?"

Everything is BIGGER in Texas.

This goes double for the Douchebags.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:23 PM (esxgB)

286 250 Good news for Moron Nation: today is Lesbian Visibility Day. I understand there are visible lesbians on PronHub.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (ZGrMX)

Maybe it was just a video of Ray Nitschke and Dick Butkus scissoring. Who would know the difference?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (ytArV)

287 >>>How much are 20mm rounds?
(3) 8' 2x4s/

Posted by: 4 at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (KnJdm)

288 > Semiauto rifle in 5.56, 300 rounds of ammo, and a first aid kit.

A good plate carrier and plates might be advisable as well.

reddit.com/r/TacticalGear/wiki/armor

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (YYlyE)

289 And if the guy had just let her stab the other woman to death, the story would have been 'White Cop just watches as Black woman is violently murdered!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (lmikk)

290 They're saying the quiet part out loud. The general public isn't allowed the means of self-defense. Anytime I argue this with leftists, they'll immediately bristle. "You're allowed self defense!" they scream. Then I point out that if you're a small 65 year old fighting a large 20 year old, you're going to lose if you don't have a weapon.

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For decades I've continued confounded those who want to ban guns with the following thought experiment: "You are on the Long island railroad, unarmed naturally, and Colin Ferguson us approaching your seat while blowing everybody's brains out in front of you. You bend over to kiss your ass goodbye, when miraculously you discover a handgun at your feet. Do you use it to defend yourself? If you do, you're a massive unprincipled, cowardly hypocrite ... and if you don't, you deserve to die because your own life is obviously not worth defending."

Posted by: ShainS at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (QVW9v)

291 "Semiauto rifle in 5.56, 300 rounds of ammo, and a first aid kit"

With lots of TQ's and Kerlix.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (VpIIl)

292 "Ma'Khia Bryant. She had her whole life ahead of her, including an upcoming cameo on Forged in Fire. We will miss her stabbyness"
Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:22 PM (VpIIl)

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Just think, had she gone ahead, knifed and killed the victim, she'd have gone to jail, gotten out early, because sentenced as a teenager, then, after she got out of prison, most certainly would have turned her life around, amiright?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (2SdPm)

293 Roberts isn't being blackmailed. He's a twat. McCain wasn't being blackmailed. Neither was Lindsay.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (kcYij)

294 218 So does striking this down mean that carry is a constitutional right?

***

They likely won't get there.

The question presented (QP) in the original petition for cert was this: "Whether the Second Amendment allows the government to prohibit ordinary law-abiding citizens from carrying handguns outside the home for self defense."

The SCOTUS granted cert to consider this more narrowly-drawn QP: "Whether the State's denial of petitioners' applications for concealed-carry licenses for self-defense violated the Second Amendment."

Josh Blackman (writing at Volkh) says: "I see this slippery change as a way for the Court to issue a very, very narrow decision that will leave the issue unsettled."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2021 12:25 PM (k4dH2)

295 "...But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments."

Who's "we"? Because she was really shining in the moment the public saw her for the first time. Little hard to unsee a truth.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2021 12:25 PM (aXxgO)

296 243 So, somehow the oscars lost 50% of their viewers from last year, which was the lowest rated in history?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:18 PM (lmikk)

I had no idea they were on last night and knew even less of the nominations. Last time I paid attention Micky Rourke was robbed for The Wrestler and before that watching Bill Murray die inside when he lost was even more devastating. Now that I think about it, it was something I only watched with my Boomer parents or with my friends and their Boomer parents while in high school and middle school.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 26, 2021 12:25 PM (IdnEA)

297 Gun Thread!!
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2021 12:17 PM (MVjcR)

Buzzwords that cause Weasel to unlurk...
.45
9mm
20mm
Gunz
2Amendment

Morning Mr Weasel!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 26, 2021 12:26 PM (HPSCb)

298 Personally I am waiting for substantive challenges to the GCA and NFA. I don't believe any of those have faced real, material challenges. The complete ban on new machineguns is clearly unconstitutional. Seriously.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:26 PM (VpIIl)

299 284 I spoke with John Roberts' sister Peggy the night before his confirmation hearings began. She was terrified that anyone would ask her anything about her brother. Should have known then...
Posted by: Timon at April 26, 2021 12:23 PM (HMiTn)

Is there anything that would have stopped GWB from elevating Clarence Thomas to Chief? Other than, of course, not wanting a conservative as CJ?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 26, 2021 12:26 PM (mdjgu)

300
Just think, had she gone ahead, knifed and killed the victim, she'd have gone to jail, gotten out early, because sentenced as a teenager, then, after she got out of prison, most certainly would have turned her life around, amiright?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (2SdPm)

It's like crime is a right of passage. Like Canadians and hockey.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

301 @Blklivesmatter
Ma'Khia Bryant. We say her name.

Another Black life stolen. But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.

We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen.

This just in: BLM has renamed itself as BLDM.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:26 PM (8LApR)

302 > Oklahoma had open carry for 25 years before Texas. It's mindboggling.

Not really. From Reconstruction through the early 90s, TX was a Democrat stronghold.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 26, 2021 12:26 PM (YYlyE)

303 Y'know, my real potential military years were mostly Ford/Carter days, just post-draft,

I still remember standing at the counter in the post office filling out my Selective Service card. Weird how we retain certain memories.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:27 PM (8erNz)

304 Posted by: Diogenes at April 26, 2021 12:26 PM (HPSCb)
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Howdy Diogenes!

Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2021 12:27 PM (MVjcR)

305 "...But we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments."

If we were, though...

Stabulatory Ballistic Gel Test might work.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:27 PM (esxgB)

306 261 Marcus T, Most justices rely on a cert pool of law clerks to review petitions but Alito and Gorsuch have their own clerks do it. Essentially, the cert pool and individual clerks in the chambers of Alito and Gorsuch screen the petitions based on Rule 10 and highlight the significance of the cases.

That being said, justices can always refer a case to conference for cert outside of the cert pool memos. These memos are most prominent as influence on granting cert during the summer recess to set up the next term of the court as the press of business is far greater at that time.

Posted by: whig at April 26, 2021 12:27 PM (pO7gM)

307 The way the armed forces are leaning now, I am not sure that is a good thing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

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We'll just bring back the draft, peon.

Everyone will do their fair share.

Posted by: Your Betters at April 26, 2021 12:27 PM (81B/j)

308 Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt: "She's not in the Senate. She got badly trounced when she primaried the incumbent, Mike Enzi iirc, years ago. Then she ran for the House seat."

Damn! How'd I miss that?!

Thanks for the heads up. I think I'll show myself out now.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (aXxgO)

309 3% of our population commits almost half the crime.

Posted by: torabora at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (C8cRz)

310 [ conceal carry application]

Q: Why do you need a gun

A: Because I'm a fuckin American

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (uVxft)

311 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InRC11vWBlU

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (AHq56)

312 It's worked well for Israel.

Posted by: Jak Sucio

Nobody fucks with Switzerland.

Every able bodied adult male is required to keep an automatic weapon in the house and the ammo to go with it.

They also are the secret repository of all the loot that the world's dictators steal from their citizens, but I like to think it's the guns/ammo that keeps them free.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (GckyN)

313 247 Fuck, practically every church in my town has BLM signs out front.

Churches pledging fealty to the communists who overthrew our Republic is not a good look. To me it isn't, anyway. But as an alien on my own planet, what do I know.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 26, 2021 12:19 PM (Bmy3R)

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and villages that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

Other than denying Christ what could be more anti-Christian??

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (yrol0)

314 By the way, where is vmom and bluebell? We're discussing stabbing and all and our resident experts aren't weighing in.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (2SdPm)

315 Not really. From Reconstruction through the early 90s, TX was a Democrat stronghold.

And it was Democrats who were terrified with the notion that freed slaves could shoot back when the Democrats came out to lynch them, so the party of the Klan passed gun laws to maintain a monopoly on violence.

Over a hundred years later and nothing has changed.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (7OQt9)

316 Q: Why do you need a gun

A: To shoot people who ask me stupid questions.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:29 PM (esxgB)

317 >>Why is the Texas senate balking over constitutional carry? Let me guess, "Wild Wild West and blood in the streets?"

Getting anything through the Legislature is difficult. But for the time it takes to type out a comment on this blog, an email to the Committee Members and your senator and state rep will do wonders.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:29 PM (jvt6t)

318 We uplift, celebrate & honor this Black child for what she loved- doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen.

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Don't forget being all stabby with other teens.

Posted by: SMH at April 26, 2021 12:29 PM (81B/j)

319 Please watch the video in comment 311 and send to all your friends. It is a summary of results from an Ivermectin Conference. It should make your blood boil.
I can no longer deal with this f*cking broken comment box.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at April 26, 2021 12:29 PM (AHq56)

320 Why is the Texas senate balking over constitutional carry? Let me guess, "Wild Wild West and blood in the streets?

People like John Cornyn.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM (i0ykY)

321 309 3% of our population commits almost half the crime.
Posted by: torabora at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (C8cRz)

I think that if you eliminate the illegal alien population you get rid of about 70% of all violent crime.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM (yrol0)

322 155 >>Agree on Kerry, he went past Logan and acted as a traitor to this country with his Persian hijinks.

He should have had his neck stretched when he did this shit with the Palestinians.

Kerry has been working against US Interests, without authority, for well over 20 years.

He deserves something less honorable than a bullet.
Posted by: garrett

50 years. he lost an election in the 70's and took that as a mandate to negotiate with North Vietnam. that probably left a mark in his military record since he was still in the reserves and that is why those records remain hidden.

Posted by: x4 at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM (oA+QO)

323 Let's see what the "staunch defender of the Constitution" Amy Coney Barrett will do? She loves the Constitution so much, oozed such sacred devotion from every pore in her hearings, shouldn't be any doubt, right?

Posted by: Homo Viator at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM (BA6Qv)

324 I'll sum it up :

Ivermectin works.

Ivermectin is cheap.

You can't have Ivermectin because that would spoil their fun.

Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM (esxgB)

325 For decades I've continued confounded those who want to ban guns with the following thought experiment: "You are on the Long island railroad, unarmed naturally, and Colin Ferguson us approaching your seat while blowing everybody's brains out in front of you. You bend over to kiss your ass goodbye, when miraculously you discover a handgun at your feet. Do you use it to defend yourself? If you do, you're a massive unprincipled, cowardly hypocrite ... and if you don't, you deserve to die because your own life is obviously not worth defending."
Posted by: ShainS at April 26, 2021 12:24 PM (QVW9v)

This is like death penalty opponents who qualify their opposition by saying "except in particularly heinous cases," or some such, as though supporters want to apply the death penalty to jaywalkers.

The choice is binary: yes, or no. No qualifiers allowed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM (8LApR)

326 People like John Cornyn.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM (i0ykY)

John Cornhole is Federal. This the Texas State Legislature.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:31 PM (jvt6t)

327 Q: Why do you need a gun

A: It's the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.

Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2021 12:31 PM (MVjcR)

328 324 I'll sum it up

Exactly!

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at April 26, 2021 12:31 PM (AHq56)

329 Hooah, Weasel!

Posted by: SMH at April 26, 2021 12:31 PM (81B/j)

330
Don't forget being all stabby with other teens.
Posted by: SMH at April 26, 2021 12:29 PM (81B/j)

I'm betting this was not her first experience with a knife and another human.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at April 26, 2021 12:32 PM (Zz0t1)

331 "doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen."
She was a STEM student.

Posted by: Stab The Evil Mutha! at April 26, 2021 12:32 PM (Tnijr)

332 ""Whether the State's denial of petitioners' applications for
concealed-carry licenses for self-defense violated the Second
Amendment."
"

Meaning that SCOTUS feels the application process is necessary, proper and reasonable to exercising that right. That should worry everyone, because the next question becomes what can a state add to that application process, and what constitutes constitutional grounds for denial? Which leads to SCOTUS waiting another 20 years for someone to be denied carry on another scheme, so they can come back and articulate what grounds are permitted.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:32 PM (VpIIl)

333 It is sad that I think of Ben Shapiro now every time I see or hear 'binary.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (lmikk)

334 Posted by: SMH at April 26, 2021 12:31 PM (81B/j)
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Howdy, SMH!!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (MVjcR)

335 So every citizen should have a 5.56 NATO rifle of some type, and the means to clean and maintain it

Semiauto rifle in 5.56, 300 rounds of ammo, and a first aid kit.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Should be in a kit with sn sdr radio and a simple chest rig.

Posted by: Jean at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (hfIrP)

336 321 309 3% of our population commits almost half the crime.
Posted by: torabora at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (C8cRz)

I think that if you eliminate the illegal alien population you get rid of about 70% of all violent crime.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM (yrol0)

I dunno about that. I think the homegrown contingent is responsible for the considerable majority of crime. See, e.g., murders.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (8LApR)

337 It always confounds me the whole "wild west blood in the streets" trope is always used as an argument against allowing people to exercise their constitutional rights.

Meanwhile, AZ has been open carry since they became a state, yet, the only blood regularly spilled is generally done by the cartels along the border.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (2SdPm)

338
I think that if you eliminate the illegal alien population you get rid of about 70% of all violent crime.
___________

Nope. 56% of the murders in the U.S. are committed by blacks, almost all of whom are citizens. They also commit most of the other violent crimes.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (k4dH2)

339 we refuse to define or remember Ma'Khia by her final moments.

They reserve that for white cops, defining them entirely by one moment in time

Ivermectin works.

It does, but only if you use it early. If you're at the "face turning blue, dying" phase, then its too late.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (KZzsI)

340 Anyone who said stabbing is a normal teenage activity needs to lose the right to vote.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (cSyAR)

341 Mah'kias' Tik-Tok videos have her describing different knives for different occasions.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (jvt6t)

342 Getting anything through the Legislature is difficult. But for the time it takes to type out a comment on this blog, an email to the Committee Members and your senator and state rep will do wonders.

I'm in California. Maybe I should spend my time packing and calling U-Haul.

Oh wait, I've got way too much shit for U-Haul. I need 4000sf of shop space with a bedroom in the corner.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (8erNz)

343 331 "doing her hair, making Tik Toks, having fun. Just being a teen."
She was a STEM student.
Posted by: Stab The Evil Mutha! at April 26, 2021 12:32 PM (Tnijr)

You bet. And an aspiring rapper. And she could read cursive!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:34 PM (8LApR)

344 Now that I'm no longer Supreme Courtin', I can get in two, sometimes three additional WODs!

Posted by: zombie RBG at April 26, 2021 12:34 PM (DMUuz)

345 The right to self-defense of life, liberty, and the just means to secure the inalienable rights of the popular sovereigns is a natural right. The Constitution was supposed to have designed and ordained a government that secured this and our other inalienable natural rights. The Second Amendment constrained the Federal government and the governments of the several States and their constituent communities from abrogating this and our other natural rights. We need to work to frame the debate more along these lines. The Second Amendment does not "Give us freedom to. . . " so much as it "Constrains the government(s) from. . . ." As long as we're arguing the former, we're implicitly ceding a notion that it's up to the government to provide the freedom, rather than the freedom being natural for a popular sovereign.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at April 26, 2021 12:34 PM (u6YyU)

346 "Posted by: whig at April 26, 2021 12:27 PM (pO7gM)
"
Thanks. Seemed a bit...convoluted, to say the least.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 26, 2021 12:34 PM (VpIIl)

347 Seventy Percent of Illegal Aliens in Federal Jails Convicted of Non-Immigration Crimes

https://tinyurl.com/ysyvkw2b

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:34 PM (yrol0)

348 Joe Biden just signed an executive order assigning himself the authority to over rule and federal court decision. Republicans declare the move as "not fair" and that this new presidential authority will surely be revoked by the next republican president when time and circumstances permit.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 26, 2021 12:34 PM (0UNjH)

349 It is sad that I think of Ben Shapiro now every time I see or hear 'binary.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (lmikk)

I think of him every time I hear the word 'twink'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Marcus Brasswang at April 26, 2021 12:35 PM (ifmtJ)

350 It does, but only if you use it early. If you're at the "face turning blue, dying" phase, then its too late.
BULLSHIT

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at April 26, 2021 12:35 PM (AHq56)

351 I dunno about that. I think the homegrown contingent is responsible for the considerable majority of crime. See, e.g., murders.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (8LApR)
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I believe CA state prisons are full of illegals who have committed heinous crimes.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 26, 2021 12:35 PM (2SdPm)

352 Nood. Cheney.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2021 12:35 PM (lmikk)

353 Oh wait, I've got way too much shit for U-Haul. I need 4000sf of shop space with a bedroom in the corner.
Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (8erNz)

Good Luck.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:36 PM (jvt6t)

354 Don't forget his dad gave us Souter.

Posted by: Ghost of John Brown at April 26, 2021 12:36 PM (PaX37)

355 The Census Bureau is supposed to release final data from the 2020 census this afternoon.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 26, 2021 12:36 PM (sWM8x)

356 Mah'kias' Tik-Tok videos have her describing different knives for different occasions.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (jvt6t)

Hard to beat a good steak/butcher knife for casual stabbin'.

Posted by: BignJames at April 26, 2021 12:36 PM (AwYPR)

357 Search for "Pierre Kory" if you want accurate information about what works for COVID and what doesn't. It's quite complex. There are other treatments that work as well.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at April 26, 2021 12:37 PM (AHq56)

358 22 inch barrel on the M-14 was standard. I never shot one with a shorter barrel. My guess is that 16 inch barrel isn't accurate at 500 yrds plus.

Most times, targets are engaged at 300 yards or closer.

Posted by: Archer at April 26, 2021 12:37 PM (gmo/4)

359 I'm in California. Maybe I should spend my time packing and calling U-Haul.

Oh wait, I've got way too much shit for U-Haul. I need 4000sf of shop space with a bedroom in the corner.
Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:33 PM (8erNz)

You can get some nice lots south of Houston for under a 100k. Your can put up a 2400 sq ft metal barn with 1000 sq of it being condo for about the same.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:37 PM (yrol0)

360 Nobody fucks with Switzerland.

Every able bodied adult male is required to keep an automatic weapon in the house and the ammo to go with it.

They also are the secret repository of all the loot that the world's dictators steal from their citizens, but I like to think it's the guns/ammo that keeps them free.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2021 12:28 PM (GckyN)

Plus all of those narrow easily defended mountain passes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:37 PM (YqDXo)

361 It's SOP for teens. No Lives Matter.

What is the expected outcome if CRT is introduced into the curriculum as early as the first grade?

"Good morning class, I want you people of color to turn around and punch the first white person you see in the face."

If the foundational principles of education are to hate your country, your family and your neighbor, and if your origins began in a primordial swamp, you barely escaped being aborted, there is no purpose in life and your existence is killing the planet then knifing someone to death is considered a virtue.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 26, 2021 12:37 PM (eK2Ct)

362 Watching the Supreme Court now is like playing the game "Who will betray us?" You know it's going to happen. Which one? Or more than one? Of course you know that every leftist judge will vote unswervingly leftist.

Posted by: Homo Viator at April 26, 2021 12:38 PM (BA6Qv)

363 It does, but only if you use it early. If you're at the "face turning blue, dying" phase, then its too late.

My covid experience was positive test and...oh, nothing for a week. Then 104degF fever and general weakness, and as I was out of town and 5000ft above my normal altitude at the time 'am I having a problem breathing or am I generally just weak?' That lasted four, five days then back to 98.6 and eventually normality.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:38 PM (8erNz)

364 People like John Cornyn.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 26, 2021 12:30 PM

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John Cornhole is Federal. This the Texas State Legislature.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:31 PM

Most of the Texas State Legislature = John Cornhole wannabes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 26, 2021 12:38 PM (DMUuz)

365 347 Seventy Percent of Illegal Aliens in Federal Jails Convicted of Non-Immigration Crimes
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Yes, but crimes like murder, assault, rape, etc., are generally not federal crimes. They're state crimes, and the convicts end up in state prisons, not federal jails.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2021 12:38 PM (k4dH2)

366 John Cornhole is Federal. This the Texas State Legislature.

Cornyn is the senior member of the federal GOP where the state GOP gets its a significant level of funding. I figure he swings a big stick. Just my opinion. YMMV

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 26, 2021 12:39 PM (i0ykY)

367 I believe CA state prisons are full of illegals who have committed heinous crimes.
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This is also true of AZ and TX state prisons.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2021 12:40 PM (k4dH2)

368 That aged well!

Georgias Experiment in Human Sacrifice
The state is about to find out how many people need to lose their lives to shore up the economy.

The Atlantic
AMANDA MULL
APRIL 29, 2020

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:40 PM (yrol0)

369 let's all move to some shit hole country and set up new management.

Not Venezuela. Everybody is already doing that. Also too humid. Maybe a white country so they won't think we're racist.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 26, 2021 12:40 PM (EFCBR)

370 In a country ruled by Sharkman, every able-bodied adult would own a Vulcan 20mm Prius, like the guys at BRCC do:

https://tinyurl.com/Vulcan-20MM-Prius-BRCC

Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2021 12:41 PM (GckyN)

371 Maybe a white country so they won't think we're racist.

Pretty sure we can take France

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 26, 2021 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

372 369 let's all move to some shit hole country and set up new management.

Not Venezuela. Everybody is already doing that. Also too humid. Maybe a white country so they won't think we're racist.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 26, 2021 12:40 PM (EFCBR)

Our current government spend its time wondering how to help Honduras and Guatemala and does not get a single flying fuck about you or me!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:42 PM (yrol0)

373 347 Seventy Percent of Illegal Aliens in Federal Jails Convicted of Non-Immigration Crimes

https://tinyurl.com/ysyvkw2b
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 26, 2021 12:34 PM (yrol0)

But that does not mean that 70% of all crimes are committed by illegal aliens. It means that 70% of them who are convicted are convicted of non-immigration crimes.

Huge difference.

Now I'm going to bat for illegal aliens, but ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:42 PM (MMB1n)

374 346 Marcus T.

The federal court system itself is overloaded and rife with poor case management. Realistically, the diversity jurisdiction of the federal courts needs to have the $ limit raised on civil cases heard. Large corporations often try to get cases sent to the diversity jurisdiction of federal courts as a way to delay any judgment and raise expenses for those challenging them.

In addition, judges need to adhere to strict time schedules for attorneys on filing motions and rule far more last minute delays by filing new motions as dilatory and punish the attorneys that do it. Justice delayed is justice denied.

Posted by: whig at April 26, 2021 12:42 PM (pO7gM)

375 Cornyn is the senior member of the federal GOP where the state GOP gets its a significant level of funding. I figure he swings a big stick. Just my opinion. YMMV
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 26, 2021 12:39 PM (i0ykY)

I get all of that. My point is that if you don't make yourself heard, on the record, you get what you get.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 26, 2021 12:43 PM (jvt6t)

376 Elites weighing in on the privileges of being elite and which of those should be denied to losers like me.

This is why we need 30 round magazines. They are coming for us and most of us who are worried about it are too old and fat to run fast.

Me in 2056, on my deathbed: "No sh!t...there we were, surrounded by hordes of xems and xers. Knee deep in spent brass and grenade pins...when they got close, we would start coughing up a super-spreader event...then we'd back-shoot those mask wearing lily-liberals while they retreated. All we had to do to provoke them into another attack was yell 'George Floyd was a criminal, yo!' and here they come. If it weren't for 30 round mags...they would still be nothing but pure carbon footprint, adding nothing to the human experience. And that's how the 30 round magazine saved the planet."

Posted by: thesgm at April 26, 2021 12:43 PM (y2v/7)

377 Georgias Experiment in Human Sacrifice
The state is about to find out how many people need to lose their lives to shore up the economy.

I expect if you make advised choices of such people you could do wonders for the economy. And lowering the crime rate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:44 PM (7UpF2)

378 My covid experience was positive test and...oh, nothing for a week. Then 104degF fever and general weakness,

So you're 'quarantined' in a hotel 1200 miles from home, you take the test, you walk half a mile to Wal-Mart and buy a thermometer but they've got no finger o2 clips. Order from Amazon. Test comes back positive, you're hiking a bit in the mountains you're feeling fine, four days later it hits...but five days later it's gone. I think it's opportunistic, it kills the weak, and apparently I wasn't weak enough.

I had the first Moderna shot a couple weeks ago and it flattened me for a day, I damn near couldn't move. But only a day. Second one this Friday.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:45 PM (8erNz)

379 371 Maybe a white country so they won't think we're racist.

Pretty sure we can take France
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 26, 2021 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

We can land our Higgins boats on the topless beaches of the Riveria!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:46 PM (7UpF2)

380 And if the guy had just let her stab the other woman to death, the story would have been 'White Cop just watches as Black woman is violently murdered!'

Sounds like what happens in abortion clinics thousands of times a day.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 26, 2021 12:48 PM (eK2Ct)

381 Nood.

Also, I may have a very significant job opportunity which would require me to move to (or near) Albuquerque, NM.

I know crime is bad, and there is significant poverty/homelessness in Abq proper, but do any of you guys know what it's like living around there?

You can email me, or I'll hang up and listen.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Single and #SuperStraight at April 26, 2021 12:48 PM (cvNl1)

382 I had the first Moderna shot a couple weeks ago and it flattened me for a day, I damn near couldn't move. But only a day. Second one this Friday.
Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2021 12:45 PM (8erNz)

For me, a sore shoulder, and a day of the blahs, for both shots. No biggie. Didn't even miss baseball practice on the day after that, in either case.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2021 12:48 PM (7UpF2)

383 I wouldn't put it past USSC to declare 2nd Amendment only applies to weapons that existed in 1791 and that they get to decide if any developments in weaponry gets Constitutional protection. And that would be a negatory. So the government can force you to be permitted to carry your black powder single shot pistols and rifles.

They're rascals. Worthy only of our contempt.

Posted by: torabora at April 26, 2021 12:49 PM (C8cRz)

384
Maybe a white country so they won't think we're racist.

Pretty sure we can take France

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 26, 2021 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

France is that white.

Posted by: Archer at April 26, 2021 12:54 PM (gmo/4)

385
Fucking Oklahoma has it. Talk about hiding your face in public.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2021 12:20 PM (OCTRt)

LOLOL. Everyone thinks moving to TX means freedom. LOLOL.

Posted by: Justsayin' at April 26, 2021 12:56 PM (Fs5vw)

386 "In sum, we hold that the District's ban on handgun possession in the home violates the Second Amendment, as does its prohibition against rendering any lawful firearm in the home operable for the purpose of immediate self-defense. Assuming that Heller is not disqualified from the exercise of Second Amendment rights, the District must permit him to register his handgun and must issue him a license to carry it in the home...

constitutional rights necessarily take certain policy choices off the table. These include the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home. Undoubtedly some think that the Second Amendment is outmoded in a society where our standing army is the pride of our Nation, where well-trained police forces provide personal security, and where gun violence is a serious problem. That is perhaps debatable, but what is not debatable is that it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct."--Scalia's Heller decision

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2021 01:11 PM (Ndje9)

387 Drunk-driving Michigan state reps hardest hit.

Posted by: Scott M at April 26, 2021 01:11 PM (vllms)

388 Greetings:

I grew up in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s. Back then and there, the Sullivan law controlled pistol permits. The local folk wisdom went if you aren't politically connected, a retired cop, or the owner of a cash business, forget about it. Meanwhile, on the block, a pistol could be had in several days or maybe a week or two for something special.

Back then, long guns weren't subject to any restrictions. But in the late '60s, our rulers came up with their "registration" scam which was only to identify who had what supposedly. Over the next decade, it became much, much more.

Posted by: 11B40 at April 26, 2021 02:10 PM (evgyj)

389 Applied for a NY carry permit in 1992Had my own business and at times carried five figures in cash on me.Also had clients in some of NYC's shit holes.I applied in Rockland county, my home.Had to get 5 associates to fill out 5 page references for me.Ask questions like."Have you ever witnessed applicant doing Drugs?Drinking?
Show any kind of mental distress?And pay $150Was denied due to a 1977 driving a vehicle with an expired inspection ticket.So I drove around to appointments with a shotgun instead.When I moved to NC.Had a pistol permit in 2 months

Posted by: NO MO NY at April 26, 2021 02:47 PM (9iCqK)

390 No faith in the SCOTUS. None.

Posted by: soulpile at April 26, 2021 03:01 PM (VTLGo)

391 If those liberal idiots cant read the last words on the 2nd Amendment THE RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED then they need to retie from Politics that gose espeicialy to the Democrats like Biden the Stupid

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 26, 2021 05:11 PM (FLiOE)

392 didn't the election tell us it's 7-2 bad guys?

Posted by: DJ3Way at April 26, 2021 05:31 PM (bhPL1)

393 I count two conservative votes, four fence sitters, three loons.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at April 26, 2021 10:57 PM (EcD5Y)

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