C.S. Lewis was even smarter than I thought [KT]

Easter Saturday Greetings! I think this is a good time for reflection. We remember three men who died on November 22, 1963: JFK, C.S. Lewis, and Aldous Huxley. A book, Between Heaven and Hell, imagined their meeting in the afterlife.

This week, Jared Whitley wrote about a piece Lewis wrote shortly before he died:

"We now have an intelligentsia which, though very small, is very useful to the cause of Hell." -C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

A masterful piece of religious prose disguised as satire, C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters is a series of messages from senior devil Screwtape to his protege Wormwood on how best to corrupt mortals. Originally released during World War II, its tight 175 pages provide charming, timeless wisdom.
In an addendum released shortly before the author's death in 1963 - Screwtape Proposes a Toast - Lewis pivots from dispensing universal wisdom to directly criticizing social trends of his day, trends which have gone from mere whispers on college campuses 60 years ago to become orthodoxy with the power of law today. Reading it today, it feels like the author was more prophet than professor.

WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS?

In the 15-page essay - full text available here - the devil Screwtape outlines how the term democracy can be warped into destroying excellence, first in the halls of education then to society at large to make sure everyone stays "equal."

Go ahead and read it. It's not too long.

"Democracy is the word with which you must lead them by the nose," Screwtape tells his fellow devils. "The basic principle of the new education is to be that dunces and idlers must not be made to feel inferior to intelligent and industrious pupils. That would be 'undemocratic.' "

"Democracy is the word with which you must
lead them by the nose,"

Several examples are given at the link, with some not-too-obvious warnings about the wiles of tempting demons. And notes on the abolition of the middle class. Remarkable. And this (full of hyperlinks):

"For 'democracy' or the 'democratic spirit' (diabolical sense) leads to a nation without great men, a nation mainly of subliterates, full of the cocksureness which flattery breeds on ignorance, and quick to snarl or whimper at the first sign of criticism. And that is what Hell wishes every democratic people to be. For when such a nation meets in conflict a nation where children have been made to work at school, where talent is placed in high posts, and where the ignorant mass are allowed no say at all in public affairs, only one result is possible."

Whack!

Lewis also warns about changing the meaning of words. That's one of the ways we get to the state in the paragraph above.

Well, 1963 was a long time ago. Screwtape and his buddies have a head start. Time to wake up now?

I am going to repeat last year's Passover/Easter drama and music choices, because I think they were good ones:

Passover

Passover ends tomorrow. I think there are some messages with regard to slavery from the Passover celebration which we might want to pay attention to today. Also note that the "Equality Act" would be particularly hard on Orthodox Jews.

I still haven't found any Passover music that really sings to me. This scene from "Prince of Egypt" is dramatic.

Easter

BBC had some music suggestions. Here's one:

Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov: Russian Easter Festival Overture
This 1888 overture is named for the Svetliy prazdnik or 'Bright holiday', as Easter is known in Russia.
An avowed atheist, Rimsky-Korsakov wrote that he wanted to capture 'the transition from the solemnity and mystery of the evening of Passion Saturday to the unbridled pagan-religious celebrations of Easter Sunday morning'. The piece paints vividly the explosion of light and colour at the end of a long, hard Russian winter.
Religious and pagan themes are entwined at the very heart of the work: Rimsky-Korsakov borrowed themes from the Obikhod, a collection of Orthodox chants that since 1848 had been a mandatory part of the liturgy for every church in Russia.
These austere motifs shine through the wild textures of the orchestra, no more so than at 8'35 when a solo tenor trombone ('a piena voce') evokes the chanting of a priest.

Some older Russian music:

Moving into a major key with Handel, below is the largest virtual Hallelujah Chorus ever. Unless someone has done another one since 2016.

You can still learn to sing your part so you can sing along with the video.

More Handel

Do you have a favorite piece of Easter music?

More Easter photos from Larro below:

Ran across a "friend of a friend" on social media recently who thought that donating money to religious organizations and other charitable organizations rather than paying money in taxes was "hypocritical", because taxes "help all of us".

Democracy!

Wonder if this kind of thinking contributes to the decline in the number of people who say they belong to a religious congregation? Are we letting Screwtape win?

Wishing you a wonderful Easter or Passover weekend.

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1 Morning KT!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 03, 2021 10:25 AM (kTF2Z)

2 I'll call the otters.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 03, 2021 10:25 AM (kTF2Z)

3 Otters called.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 03, 2021 10:25 AM (kTF2Z)

4 Another smart guy said :

The inherent vice of Democracy is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of misery.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2021 10:27 AM (2DOZq)

5 I saw a production of screwtape in NYC about a dozen years ago. It made a lot of people uncomfortable

Posted by: CN at April 03, 2021 10:28 AM (ONvIw)

6 Sorry was reading, missed the first

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 10:29 AM (Cxk7w)

7 My wife is Russian Orthodox. Those churches are beautiful, but the greater beauty is the acoustics inherent in their design.

Posted by: Marty at April 03, 2021 10:30 AM (mSlty)

8 Humans are herd animals, and will be led around by fear. There isn't anything ingenious about how the left is doing this, and seeing it for what it is, isn't really all that brilliant either.

Sometimes I think it's rather pointless to keep pointing it out. "See?? See what they're doing there??? They want us all in cages!!"

Okie dokie then. So they do. What else is new.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2021 10:33 AM (hku12)

9 In the end, Screwtape won't win, but he sure has a lot of people in high places working for him.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 03, 2021 10:33 AM (kTF2Z)

10 Good morning, KT, good morning, Horde.

KT, thank you for the great content.

Posted by: callsign claymore at April 03, 2021 10:35 AM (vJZpZ)

11 From Handel's Messiah. Probably more appropriate for tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/vCcGqMHndxo

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 03, 2021 10:35 AM (4POC7)

12 9 if screwtape doesn't win it will be because people start believing in evil again

Posted by: CN at April 03, 2021 10:35 AM (ONvIw)

13 Can't begin to imagine the hours of work put into that stain glass window with thousands of individual cut pieces

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 10:36 AM (Cxk7w)

14 I read Screwtape a long time ago... putting it on my list to reread.

I know this CS Lewis quote on tyranny is a favorite of many here:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals."

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 10:36 AM (kTRt4)

15 >>>Humans are herd animals, and will be led around by fear. There isn't anything ingenious about how the left is doing this, and seeing it for what it is, isn't really all that brilliant either.
Sometimes I think it's rather pointless to keep pointing it out. "See?? See what they're doing there??? They want us all in cages!!"

I hate to sound naive but this is kind of a new idea to me. I used to think people wanted freedom. It's the final mask to fall, and it's made me depressed.

Posted by: Max Power at April 03, 2021 10:37 AM (QCc6B)

16 CS Lewis and JFK died on the same day. I wonder which one would be considered the greater tragedy today?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 03, 2021 10:38 AM (mdjgu)

17 I hate to sound naive but this is kind of a new idea to me. I used to think people wanted freedom.

Posted by: Max Power at April 03, 2021 10:37 AM (QCc6B)

Half do...the other half want to suppress/dominate you.

Posted by: BignJames at April 03, 2021 10:40 AM (AwYPR)

18 The stained glass at Notre Dame is something to see.

Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 10:42 AM (2veAp)

19 Ugh. Grandpa passed last night. He'd been on dialysis and sick and in pain. None of this was a shock, but mom is taking it hard.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 03, 2021 10:42 AM (jOcSX)

20 "CS Lewis and JFK died on the same day. I wonder which one would be considered the greater tragedy today?"

Lewis would have been memory holed long ago and Kennedy would still be worshiped because he's so dreamy.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2021 10:42 AM (4thlk)

21 I don't see any out of this if people keep thinking that the so-called Union of States must be maintained as it is. As long as that idea keeps afloat, there will be no solutions to this onslaught of totalitarian rule.

This country is so fucking boned.

P.S. It's not the rabble in DC that's governing us. The Chinese have almost total control now. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Justsayin' at April 03, 2021 10:43 AM (Fs5vw)

22 Probably more like 1/3s, 1/3 wants to be free, 1/3 wants security in life and 1/3 are totalitarian wanting to run everything

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 10:43 AM (Cxk7w)

23 My condolences, Alex.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 03, 2021 10:43 AM (kTF2Z)

24 So sorry for your loss, Alex. Prayers for you and your family.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (kTRt4)

25 Condolences, Alex. Prayers for him, you, and your family for peace.

Posted by: empire 1 at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (JJatH)

26 Posted by: BignJames at April 03, 2021 10:40 AM (AwYPR)

Being free carries with it the ~~curse~~ burden of being responsible, so for far too many, it is an easy decision.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (hOUT3)

27 Rarely comment here but The Screwtape Letters is one of the best books I have ever read, and I read a lot of crappy old books. Only 160 pages. Lewis said it was the only book he didn't enjoy writing because "making 'goods' bad and 'bads' good gets to be fatiguing."

Posted by: Marica at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (Q5P2S)

28 I hate to sound naive but this is kind of a new idea to me. I used to think people wanted freedom. It's the final mask to fall, and it's made me depressed.
Posted by: Max Power at April 03, 2021 10:37 AM (QCc6B)

Humans are tribal. We want to be part of a group, because there's safety in such. Hence there's always going to be a balancing act between personal freedom, and social stability.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (jOcSX)

29 KT, thanks so much for the wonderful Easter music!

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (kTRt4)

30 Alex.. Prayers

Posted by: White Males at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (Zmnko)

31 CO Alex, that is terrible news. Praying for peace for your mom right now.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (mdjgu)

32 19 Condolences, Alex

Posted by: CN at April 03, 2021 10:45 AM (ONvIw)

33 And so it begins.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 03, 2021 10:45 AM (vuisn)

34 Prayers up Alex, for you and your family.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 10:46 AM (hOUT3)

35 Alex, Condolences and prayers for your family.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at April 03, 2021 10:46 AM (7EjX1)

36
I hate to sound naive but this is kind of a new idea to me. I used to think people wanted freedom. It's the final mask to fall, and it's made me depressed.
Posted by: Max Power at April 03, 2021 10:37 AM (QCc6B)

This evidence has become much clearer to me also this past year.

Posted by: Justsayin' at April 03, 2021 10:46 AM (Fs5vw)

37 Prayers, Alex. Hard on a holiday weekend.

Posted by: KT at April 03, 2021 10:46 AM (BVQ+1)

38 Willowed

not sure if you meant this, but " A Good Walk Spoiled" was a very good book about the pga tour. The author is a lefty prick, but he did right a good book. Sure it is dated now, but no doubt it was a good read.

Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 10:24 AM (2veAp)

An excellent book about golf is The Match: The Day the Game of Golf Changed Forever by Mark Frost about a private match at Pebble Beach between Ben Hogan, Ken Venturi, Byron Nelson and a hotshot amateur Harvey Ward. It is very well written.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

39 Prayers for your family, Colorado Alex.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at April 03, 2021 10:47 AM (ju2Fy)

40 ..I hate to sound naive but this is kind of a new idea to me. I used to think people wanted freedom. It's the final mask to fall, and it's made me depressed. Posted by: Max Power at April 03, 2021 10:37 AM (QCc6B)

I realized that people, i.e; "my peers", were Herd Animals when I was in the 4th grade. When RFK was running for the (D) primary, and Nixon was the (R) flagbearer. And my "peers" were all agog over RFK because of his hair, his smile, and he's so handsome, etc. Being a Submariner's son, I asked them about supporting the military and foreign affairs, and was shouted down.

Been careful to maintain some degree of mental independence, ever since. Second sign of danger is to "run with the herd." FIRST sign of danger, is that there IS a herd.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 03, 2021 10:47 AM (QzJWU)

41 I went online to my library to see about getting a copy of the Screwtape Letters and there are multiple holds already. My thought was, wow, there are other people who think like us in my immediate area.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 03, 2021 10:48 AM (sd8p8)

42 Condolences Alex.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 10:48 AM (y7DUB)

43 I just dropped because very stressful chores are in progress, and I am glad I took this break to check the blog.

KT, thank you so much for this Easter Thread. It will be viewed and appreciated by many many people I am sure!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 10:48 AM (hOUT3)

44 Police In England Break Up A Good Friday Mass

https://bit.ly/3moyOuD

What a coincidence!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 03, 2021 10:48 AM (VVEnO)

45 "Make me a minx, a moron and a parasite."

Posted by: Mr. Barky at April 03, 2021 10:49 AM (qG5O9)

46 Being free carries with it the burden of being responsible, so for far too many, it is an easy decision.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
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Even as a freedom loving individual, there are times when faced with a major decision that I've wished someone could just tell me what to do.

Not the government, though-- I mean wise and trusted friends or family. I can seek and take advice but the responsibility for the decision and the consequences is mine. Took me awhile to realize that I really do prefer it that way.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 10:49 AM (kTRt4)

47 27. It was an eye opening experience to watch it performed. Reading it was great, but hearing it spoken with the required deviousness and cunning really drove the points home. I took a group of 14 people. The academics expressed irritation with it, especially the libs, but I suspect it's because it hit home. Screwtape was portrayed as a thoughtful professor at his desk in his library.

Posted by: CN at April 03, 2021 10:50 AM (ONvIw)

48 White supremacy made her fat!

https://bit.ly/3rS0rgB

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 03, 2021 10:50 AM (VVEnO)

49 41 I went online to my library to see about getting a copy of the Screwtape Letters and there are multiple holds already. My thought was, wow, there are other people who think like us in my immediate area.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 03, 2021 10:48 AM (sd8p

Either that or it's just another way of telling you that they've taken it off the shelf.

Posted by: Justsayin' at April 03, 2021 10:50 AM (Fs5vw)

50 Being free carries with it the curse burden of being responsible, so for far too many, it is an easy decision.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 10:44 AM (hOUT3)

At least a third of the country would prefer to be ruled. People tend to reflexively respond that they're for freedom without thinking about it.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 10:50 AM (y7DUB)

51 I need to move the "Letters" to the top of my very long reading list.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 10:51 AM (hOUT3)

52 Last month 916k new jobs were created. The MSM is orgasmic. The economy is back. Recovery summer!!

Meanwhile, between May and August of 2020,10 Million jobs were created. But the media said that meant nothing because reasons.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at April 03, 2021 10:52 AM (wyszq)

53 41 reassuring isn't it? I am always sort of pleased when a book I want is out of stock at thrift books or abe.

Posted by: CN at April 03, 2021 10:52 AM (ONvIw)

54 Am currently reading: "The Philosophy of Tolkien", by Peter Kreeft. Tolkien and CS Lewis were friends for decades and Kreeft spends a lot of time with Lewis' writings as well as Tolkien's in this book. It's a good read.

Also, my first Grandchild, a Handsome Prince named Jaxson Brian Caragiorgio, was born last night at 9:10 pm. Mother, Terrified Father and Son all doing well and healthy.

Grandpa is very pleased that he was born on Good Friday (certainly better than his Due Date, which was Hitler's birthday/international pothead day -- 4/20). This bodes well for the Lad, I think

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2021 10:52 AM (i4CI5)

55 Colorado Alex, condolences.

Posted by: callsign claymore at April 03, 2021 10:52 AM (vJZpZ)

56 Either that or it's just another way of telling you that they've taken it off the shelf.
Posted by: Justsayin'
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Nah, if it were withdrawn it shouldn't be visible in the catalog at all... at least in every library I've ever worked at; or it would be labeled lost, missing, withdrawn, etc. if it is visible.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 10:52 AM (kTRt4)

57 Sharkman, congratulations!

Posted by: callsign claymore at April 03, 2021 10:53 AM (vJZpZ)

58 Sharkman, congratulations!

And thanks for your recommendation of the Tolkien movie, I watched it this week and loved it.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 10:54 AM (kTRt4)

59 I hate to sound naive but this is kind of a new idea to me. I used to think people wanted freedom. It's the final mask to fall, and it's made me depressed.
Posted by: Max Power at April 03, 2021 10:37 AM (QCc6B)

I figured out that the US was an outlier, when I traveled the world in my 20's... we truly were different.

Note, the past tense, were.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2021 10:54 AM (oHd/0)

60 Either that or it's just another way of telling you that they've taken it off the shelf.
Posted by: Justsayin' at April 03, 2021 10:50 AM (Fs5vw)

Comrade, it is not like you really really need to read that book which was paid for with your tax dollars!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 10:54 AM (hOUT3)

61 Not the government, though-- I mean wise and trusted friends or family. I can seek and take advice but the responsibility for the decision and the consequences is mine.

Agreed. I have always enjoyed that. That's why getting older sucks. Less trusted family and friends to bounce ideas off of.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 10:55 AM (E0OEG)

62 It's so true - the word "democracy" is as abused by the left as the word "racism."
"Democracy is threatened if you don't allow socialists to stuff the ballot box." - The Media.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at April 03, 2021 10:55 AM (d9Cw3)

63 -at least in every library I've ever worked at; -

do you take naughty pics? tasteful naughty librarian pics?

asking for the other morons .....

Posted by: will choose a nic later at April 03, 2021 10:55 AM (r4bSV)

64 So sorry for your loss, Alex. There's nothing you can do to make it easier for your mom except to show her you love her.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at April 03, 2021 10:55 AM (YynYJ)

65 Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2021 10:52 AM (i4CI5)

Blessings on the lot of ye!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 10:55 AM (hOUT3)

66
Nah, if it were withdrawn it shouldn't be visible in the catalog at all... at least in every library I've ever worked at; or it would be labeled lost, missing, withdrawn, etc. if it is visible.
Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 10:52 A

What you mean is that in the old days that would've been true. These aren't the old days anymore.

Posted by: Justsayin' at April 03, 2021 10:57 AM (Fs5vw)

67 Packed full o' goodness! I will Stop! Collaborate and listen once I'm done with food prep. I'm now putting this potatoes au gratin recipe together:

https://tinyurl.com/3x3zx2bz

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at April 03, 2021 10:57 AM (Dc2NZ)

68 one thing the china virus has demonstrated is there seems to be many people who can be made afraid and a lot of people are unthinking rule followers, or it would seem

Posted by: will choose a nic later at April 03, 2021 10:58 AM (r4bSV)

69 Colorado Alex that's tough time for a holiday especially.

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 10:59 AM (Cxk7w)

70 Yes, it is available, just that there are 3 people in front of me and only 1 copy. That is the sad part. When I first got to Bethesda, I immediately signed up for library access. It took a little while to get used to the system, but now have a steady stream of books, ebooks and the library is literally a block away so easy walk when I have to pick something up.
I used to spend a fortune feeding my habit until I discovered that I could get $25 new release hardcovers just by reserving them instead of waiting a year for the paperback which still cost about $8. I can even request they get a book that they don't have. It is the one government service that directly benefits me.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 03, 2021 10:59 AM (sd8p8)

71 A Republic, If you can keep it ma'am.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 11:00 AM (E0OEG)

72 There are several free PDF versions of Screwtape Letters at the site pdfdrive dot com.

Posted by: Marica at April 03, 2021 11:02 AM (Q5P2S)

73 The Screwtape Letters is one book I'd recommend having a physical copy of. It's that relevant and timely...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at April 03, 2021 11:03 AM (ZSK0i)

74 Lewis had many writings that appear prophetic today. That Hideous Strength is one of my favourites.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:03 AM (lgiXo)

75 The library used to be my favorite place. I would check out big stacks of books and went every week. I haven't been to one in years. They have more computers and fewer books. And they are mostly homeless people using them so they have to have security guards. I buy books now.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at April 03, 2021 11:04 AM (YynYJ)

76 Ugh. Grandpa passed last night. He'd been on dialysis and sick and in pain. None of this was a shock, but mom is taking it hard.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 03, 2021 10:42 AM (jOcSX)

Condolences, Colorado Alex.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2021 11:05 AM (mzC78)

77 76 Ugh. Grandpa passed last night. He'd been on dialysis and sick and in pain. None of this was a shock, but mom is taking it hard.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 03, 2021 10:42 AM (jOcSX)

Condolences

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:05 AM (lgiXo)

78 "It's so true - the word "democracy" is as abused by the left as the word "racism.""

Democracy has been so widely accepted as a universal good you're evil if you mildly criticize it. There's nothing good about Democracy if the people install evil men to power through elections.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2021 11:05 AM (4thlk)

79 What you mean is that in the old days that would've been true. These aren't the old days anymore.
Posted by: Justsayin'
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Well, I still work in a library and it's pretty standard practice to suppress (or delete) records for withdrawn items, not to place holds on them and leave them showing in the catalog. Of course, I've always worked in academic libraries. AFAIK, practices are similar for public libraries. Having holds on withdrawn items would mess up stats and inventory management. Those of us in the back room still care about stuff like that.

However, having said all that, librarianship is of course insufferably woke. I've been in libraries for 20+ years and it's always been left leaning, but has become much more radical in the last few years. Some still give lip service to intellectual freedom, but it wouldn't surprise me to see that language disappear. The word "neutrality" used to be important in my subset of the field but neutrality is now considered wrongthink.

Sorry. I think my covfefe has kicked in.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 11:06 AM (kTRt4)

80 figured out that the US was an outlier, when I traveled the world in my 20's... we truly were different.

Note, the past tense, were.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April

Same here. In every bar/inn/pub/bierhall the locals always wanted to tell me how America was doing it wrong and just coincidentally their country was doing it right. So America should just turn everything over to them.

Posted by: Beartooth at April 03, 2021 11:07 AM (E26jI)

81 It's interesting how many totalitarian regimes like to stick the word democratic in the official name of the country, i.e. The People's Democratic Republic of China.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:08 AM (lgiXo)

82 An excellent book about golf is The Match: The Day
the Game of Golf Changed Forever by Mark Frost about a private match at
Pebble Beach between Ben Hogan, Ken Venturi, Byron Nelson and a hotshot
amateur Harvey Ward. It is very well written.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

I will read that on your recco. That is good enough for me.

Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 11:10 AM (2veAp)

83 De Tocqueville also forecast how democracy would destroy a society -- that democracy would be a great leveler: allowing no great men to appear and therefore allowing no inferior men to appear, either.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 03, 2021 11:10 AM (K58O6)

84 Oh, boy! One of the dogs left a Cadbury egg in the Lincoln Bedroom!

Posted by: Stumblin' Uncle Joe Biden at April 03, 2021 11:11 AM (W4eKo)

85 Condolences Colorado Alex. Prayers up for the family.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2021 11:11 AM (axyOa)

86 I regard CS Lewis as a prophet. His ability to see trends in culture and their long term effects and problems is as great as anyone in the 20th century. That ability encompasses religion, faith both religious and cultural, and linguistic. Add to that a talent for expressing his thoughts and a sense of humor or irony. It's a heady mixture.

Posted by: JTB at April 03, 2021 11:12 AM (7EjX1)

87 An excellent book about golf is The Match: The Day
the Game of Golf Changed Forever by Mark Frost about a private match at
Pebble Beach between Ben Hogan, Ken Venturi, Byron Nelson and a hotshot
amateur Harvey Ward. It is very well written.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

I will read that on your recco. That is good enough for me.
Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 11:10 AM (2veA

Fictional tale of a similar match is The Legend of Bagger Vance. As in most cases, the book is infinitely better than the movie. In top ten of my favorite books.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2021 11:12 AM (2DOZq)

88 "Are we letting Screwtape win?"

"free will charity" allows the individual to recognize a need and offer some help ... money is only part of it. But imo many institutional churches also want the parishioner to give to the church first, more than do the good works for their neighbors. ...

Certainly an organization has more power as a group, (same with necessary government) and needs base support to continue. But decentralizing control really means family first, then "love your neighbor" (the world is not your neighbor, especially in the culture of that time).

We have lost our voice with BigGov and BigChurch, but imagine if a majority of concerned Catholics cut off their donations to the church when fake pope Francis revealed his communist/activist beliefs. Same goes for Protestants, but they are more likely to split on issues like lesbian ministers being "normalized" ... which is good, and bad. (Good they split, bad that advocacy for LGBTQ is praised as normal, and they keep the "Christian" label).

We need strong groups in communities, but the efforts to divide/confuse us on multiple fronts has been Screwtapes plan for a long time.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 03, 2021 11:12 AM (Cus5s)

89 Democracy has been so widely accepted as a universal good you're evil if you mildly criticize it. There's nothing good about Democracy if the people install evil men to power through elections.
++++
That is why we are so unique in being a republic with the checks and balances on the rule of the mob. At least that was before the mob used fraud to overcome the system. True democracy is the rule of the majority which often doesn't care at all for the needs and wants of the minority. If 49% totally disagree with what 51% want, and there is no mechanism for their voices to be heard, that is a recipe for civil war.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 03, 2021 11:12 AM (sd8p8)

90 Half of these humans in Reno walk down the street wearing masks. Alone in the car with a magical mask on.
Solidarity.

There's a kid's game, Biden Says. So i say, Biden says bark like a gay chihuahua.

So bark gayly.

I say, read history.

If you read history, you fucking die because i didn't say, Biden says.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 03, 2021 11:12 AM (/rM6w)

91
"The trumpet shall sound. And the dead shall be raised incorruptible."

Handel had the hand of God penning his music. This one always gives me tears. Thanks so much KT. Happy Easter.

Now I have to find out the name of the man who is singing. Should I already know, and I've forgotten?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:13 AM (45fpk)

92 Does anyone watch RWBY? Any of you watched the last episode?

Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 11:14 AM (8LZuO)

93 I just ordered a set of CS Lewis books. Still cheap.

Posted by: Justsayin' at April 03, 2021 11:14 AM (Fs5vw)

94 What you mean is that in the old days that would've been true. These aren't the old days anymore.
Posted by: Justsayin' at April 03, 2021 10:57 AM (Fs5vw)

all it would take is a small cabal of leftists to put holds on "dangerous" books.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2021 11:14 AM (mzC78)

95 "Your message has been rejected because it looks like spam. If you aren't
a spammer, please try changing the text of your "

Be nice to have some idea what this actually means...

Posted by: lyford at April 03, 2021 11:15 AM (UFj/5)

96 Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 03, 2021 10:42 AM (jOcSX)

I'm very sorry about your grandpa, Alex.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:15 AM (45fpk)

97 Fictional tale of a similar match is The Legend of
Bagger Vance. As in most cases, the book is infinitely better than the
movie. In top ten of my favorite books.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2021 11:12 AM (2DOZq)

that is another I need to read. Probably the most weird golf book i read was Golf in the Kingdom. That one got off into some really weird stuff.

Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 11:15 AM (2veAp)

98 I've the same argument about Democracy my entire adult life, even with conservatives. It's not about Democracy or a Republic or a Dictatorship. It's about the underlying values and culture of a society. C.S. Lewis understood it was more about a Biblical Christian based set of values that could determine between good and evil. Most our Christian churches don't even understand that anymore.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2021 11:16 AM (4thlk)

99 Colorado Alex in Exile at April 03, 2021 10:42 AM (jOcSX)

Alex - May you and your family be Blessed with Peace and Strength at this terrible time. May your Grandfather be Honored with Memories of his example and wisdom ...

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at April 03, 2021 11:16 AM (LPnfS)

100 I love the stained glass windows in the top photos. The ability to create such beauty is awesome. When I was younger I read that science still could not recreate some of the colors. I wonder if that still applies.

Posted by: JTB at April 03, 2021 11:16 AM (7EjX1)

101 I had sushi last night. Restaurant was packed nobody was wearing masks not even the staff. I chuckle when I hear about people double masking while walking down the street in California or New York.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at April 03, 2021 11:16 AM (wyszq)

102 Today is the final countdown
4 3 21

SMOD? You listening?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2021 11:17 AM (axyOa)

103 Kinda tastes like Alpo but not bad at all.

Posted by: Stumblin' Uncle Joe Biden at April 03, 2021 11:17 AM (W4eKo)

104 Be nice to have some idea what this actually means...

Posted by: lyford at April 03, 2021 11:15 AM (UFj/5)

For me, it usually means one of two things. I've either used some wonky punctuation that Pixy doesn't recognize, or I have too many line breaks (carriage returns). I had trouble two posts ago. So I pasted it into Notepad, copied it and pasted it back here. Went through.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:17 AM (45fpk)

105 I will read that on your recco. That is good enough for me.
Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 11:10 AM (2veAp)

Wow, thank you. Give me feedback on the book thread when you read it, even in the unlikely case you don't like it.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 11:18 AM (y7DUB)

106 I need to read the Screwtape Letters. Seems the horde review is that it was a warning, not a manual.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 11:18 AM (E0OEG)

107 I guess nobody will get the chance this Easter to join with a chorale group in singing The Hallelujah Chorus--sad.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:19 AM (lgiXo)

108 I need to read the Screwtape Letters. Seems the horde review is that it was a warning, not a manual.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 11:18 AM (E0OEG)

It's almost eerie, the way he writes down decades ago, the things that are happening today.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:20 AM (45fpk)

109 BTW, I'm a little too self conscious about my voice to join in singing The Hallelujah Chorus.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:20 AM (lgiXo)

110 I will read that on your recco. That is good enough for me.

Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 11:10 AM (2veAp)

Wow, thank you. Give me feedback on the book thread when you read it, even in the unlikely case you don't like it.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 11:18 AM (y7DUB)

i will do so. Not sure when I will read it at this juncture, but it is on the list.

Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 11:20 AM (2veAp)

111 Be nice to have some idea what this actually means...
Posted by: lyford at April 03, 2021 11:15 AM (UFj/5)

It means you have run afoul of some of the anti-troll measures. Too many line breaks is one, also too many words in total. Also, the use of "smart" punctuation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2021 11:21 AM (mzC78)

112 I hate to sound naive but this is kind of a new idea to me. I used to think people wanted freedom. It's the final mask to fall, and it's made me depressed.
Posted by: Max Power

Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite ...

RA Heinlein

Posted by: Adriane the Crazy Years Critic ... at April 03, 2021 11:21 AM (LPnfS)

113 Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2021 11:16 AM (4thlk)

That's why I really dislike the term Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2021 11:21 AM (2DOZq)

114 I guess nobody will get the chance this Easter to join with a chorale group in singing The Hallelujah Chorus--sad.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:19 AM (lgiXo)

We should organize a Horde one. I'm not much of a singer, but I can play the French Horn parts.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:21 AM (45fpk)

115 do you take naughty pics? tasteful naughty librarian pics?

asking for the other morons .....
Posted by: will choose a nic later
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you don't want to see naughty pics of me, or of most librarians I know. Trust me on this...

I have caught students canoodling in the compact shelving, though. I don't scold them, though. Let them enjoy it until someone starts moving that range of shelves...

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 11:21 AM (kTRt4)

116 My favorite CS Lewis books, in order:
Mere fact Christianity
The Screwtape Letters
The Great Divorce
Get a physical copy of each and re-read them from time to time

Posted by: Greench at April 03, 2021 11:21 AM (whXtU)

117 I had sushi last night. Restaurant was packed nobody was wearing masks not even the staff. I chuckle when I hear about people double masking while walking down the street in California or New York.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at April 03, 2021 11:16 AM (wyszq)

I think the way to deal with those idiots who mask needlessly is to point at them, and then pretend to suppress a giggle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2021 11:24 AM (mzC78)

118 the trumpet shall sound makes me weep with hope every time.That guy really sold it.

Posted by: vivi at April 03, 2021 11:24 AM (USW1s)

119 We should organize a Horde one. I'm not much of a singer, but I can play the French Horn parts.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:21 AM (45fpk)

I play sax but I don't that fits in too well.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2021 11:24 AM (2DOZq)

120 I just dropped because very stressful chores are in progress, and I am glad I took this break to check the blog.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules!

Hope things turn out OK ...

Posted by: Adriane the Crazy Years Critic ... at April 03, 2021 11:24 AM (LPnfS)

121 the trumpet shall sound makes me weep with hope every time.That guy really sold it.

Posted by: vivi at April 03, 2021 11:24 AM (USW1s)

I know. Shivers.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:25 AM (45fpk)

122 Screwtape Toast:

In paragraph five, he refers to--well:

"undersexed morons"!

"undersexed morons who had blundered or trickled into the wrong beds in automatic response to sexy advertisements, or to make themselves feel modern and emancipated, or to reassure themselves about their virility or their 'normalcy,' or even because they had nothing else to do."

Posted by: m at April 03, 2021 11:25 AM (6dJKT)

123 I play sax but I don't that fits in too well.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2021 11:24 AM (2DOZq)

The Hallelujah Chorus in sax? Try it and see.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:26 AM (lgiXo)

124 I need to read a modern murder mystery. Something more challenging than The First 48 Hours.

In Chicago they had to rename the TVVVVVvvvvvvvv show, The First 2 Hours.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 03, 2021 11:26 AM (/rM6w)

125 "That's why I really dislike the term Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal."
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2021 11:21 AM (2DOZq)

I know, you're just announcing you're okay with our society and way of life destroying itself because you don't want to be associated with those that believe in a true Christian God.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2021 11:27 AM (4thlk)

126 Whenever I've attended a community presentation of the Messiah (or part) of it. I always get goose bumps when everyone stands for The Hallelujah Chorus.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:27 AM (lgiXo)

127 Has anyone bought from Christianbook......

They have a reasonable Screwtape book. Paperback.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 11:28 AM (E0OEG)

128 "It's not the rabble in DC that's governing us. The Chinese have almost total control now. Prove me wrong."

It is the shadow oligarchs, imo. They meet at Atlantic Council and IMF/CFR, and multiple tax free Foundations. There is surely an inner core of those, which includes the BigBanks that got massive bailouts, and hold incredible power (to avoid prosecution for running cartel money even). .. But China is colonizing around the world, including in the US ... I don't think they are above the "Globalist DeepState" ... but I have no proof. DS wants us to focus on China as THE enemy (they are AN enemy), while they collect trillions in this coup/junta/plandemic.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 03, 2021 11:29 AM (Cus5s)

129 "Lewis had many writings that appear prophetic today. That Hideous Strength is one of my favourites."

It's interesting to read That Hideous Strength and The Abolition of Man together. The Abolition of Man is one of the ones that I go back to over and over again, because he was so prescient about the destruction that was being wrought in the educational system. But in TAoM, he walks through the problems of relativism that he fictionally illustrates in That Hideous Strength (which is great, as almost all of his fiction was, albeit not, to me, as good as the first two books in the space trilogy.)

"In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful."

The Abolition of Man is a book that I have recommended many times over the years - it's nearly 80 years old, and time has only increased its relevancy.

Posted by: Lyford at April 03, 2021 11:29 AM (UFj/5)

130 C.S. Lewis is a rash throughout my quote file.

Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful. (The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment)

Of course, nowadays the word “justice” is one of his redefined ones.

Those who do not think about their own sins make up for it by thinking incessantly about the sins of others. (Miserable Offenders)

To the Materialist things like nations, classes, civilizations must be more important than individuals, because the individuals only live seventy odd years each and the group may last for centuries. But to the Christian, individuals are more important, for they live eternally; and races, civilizations and the like, are in comparison the creatures of a day. (Man or Rabbit)

This very obvious fact—that each generation is taught by an earlier generation—must be kept very firmly in mind… The moment we forget this we begin to talk nonsense about education. (On the Transmission of Christianity)

To call [the press] liars would be as undeserved a compliment as to say that a dog was bad at arithmetic. (Letters To An American Lady)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 03, 2021 11:29 AM (CX3cf)

131 “There is kindness in Love: but Love and kindness are not coterminous… Kindness consents very readily to the removal of its object—we have all met people whose kindness to animals is constantly leading them to kill animals lest they should suffer. Kindness, merely as such, cares not whether its object becomes good or bad, provided only that it escapes suffering.” (The Problem of Pain)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 03, 2021 11:30 AM (CX3cf)

132 Has anyone bought from Christianbook......

They have a reasonable Screwtape book. Paperback.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 11:28 AM (E0OEG)

Yes, I have. It's been a few years ago but I encountered no problems. Once you buy from them, you'll get their catalogs in the mail.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:31 AM (45fpk)

133
Alex, so sorry about your loss but be thankful that you had him in your life for such a long time. Both of my parents passed away at a young age and my kids never got to know them and they never got to know how wonderful my kids are. Now that I have grandkids of my own, I treasure every moment. He got to watch you grow up. There is nothing better.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 03, 2021 11:31 AM (sd8p8)

134 Nice stain glass windows. The ones in Jerusalem at Hadassah Hospital in Ein Karem are nice also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2021 11:31 AM (85Gof)

135 Agreed. I have always enjoyed that. That's why getting older sucks. Less trusted family and friends to bounce ideas off of.
Posted by: Infidel
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Yes. My brother has always been there for me as a voice of reason and the one person I trust more than any other. But I also want to pray for guidance and wisdom, and (this is the really hard part for me) recognize, listen to, and follow it when it comes. Because it's rarely as obvious as I need/want it to be, lol.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 11:32 AM (kTRt4)

136 Condolences, Colorado Alex. The trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised incorruptible.

Posted by: vivi at April 03, 2021 11:32 AM (USW1s)

137 screaming in digital, sister from another father!

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 11:33 AM (E0OEG)

138 Guess I'm on the lookout for these letters now.if I ever come across them.

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 11:33 AM (Cxk7w)

139 A dark Saturday, empty waiting for a joyous and light filled Easter Sunday.

At the suggestion of someone here Im reading CS Lewis preparing for Easter. Its very good

Posted by: LASue at April 03, 2021 11:33 AM (Ed8Zd)

140 Do the screwtapes have a newsletter?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at April 03, 2021 11:33 AM (W4eKo)

141 Infidel, *fistbump*

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 11:34 AM (kTRt4)

142 My name is a link to a tour of Chartres cathedral. Check page 2 for stained glass details. Chartres was built in the late 13th century. At the time it was the largest and most expensive building ever constructed. It is like stepping into the middle ages.

Happy Easter!

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at April 03, 2021 11:34 AM (vN+oL)

143 Until We Have Faces is one of the lesser known of Lewis's works. For some reason I have the urge to find and read it even though I honestly don't remember a lot of it.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:35 AM (lgiXo)

144 Sorry for your loss, CO Alex

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2021 11:35 AM (0o2qn)

145 Yes, I have. It's been a few years ago but I encountered no problems. Once you buy from them, you'll get their catalogs in the mail.
Posted by: grammie winger

Bonus! Thank you grammie.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 11:36 AM (E0OEG)

146 C.S. Lewis led me to George McDonald.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:37 AM (lgiXo)

147 When ever i have a religious experience, there is no language announcement, This experience was brought to you by God.

Me, i'm easy to please like a Sunday morning. To me when i discovered the fact that there are Zillgilion galaxies is an experience brought to you by

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 03, 2021 11:37 AM (/rM6w)

148 BTW, I'm a little too self conscious about my voice to join in singing.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:20 AM (lgiXo)

Never stopped Linda McCartney.

Posted by: BignJames at April 03, 2021 11:37 AM (AwYPR)

149 ..Yes. My brother has always been there for me as a voice of reason and the one person I trust more than any other. But I also want to pray for guidance and wisdom, and (this is the really hard part for me) recognize, listen to, and follow it when it comes. Because it's rarely as obvious as I need/want it to be, lol. Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 11:32 AM (kTRt4)

Teh Horde is a wonderful place to come to for advice on all manner of topics. "Slap a hot iron to it", answers a wide array of queries!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 03, 2021 11:37 AM (QzJWU)

150 I have a few of Lewis' books of essays on Kindle partly for cost and partly because physical copies are so hard to find. But the last few years has convinced me to get physical copies of his writings whenever possible. His thoughts and talent to express them are too dangerous to the current culture for the book burning mind set to ignore.

Posted by: JTB at April 03, 2021 11:38 AM (7EjX1)

151 Passover ? A celebration of God killing Egyptian kids?
Really ? That was the only esy yo handle it?/

Posted by: Proud Moderate at April 03, 2021 11:38 AM (4nJM3)

152 Lilith by George McDonald helped restore my faith. And that despite the fact he was a universalist.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (lgiXo)

153 KT linked to the later 'Screwtape Proposes a Toast' but here's the link to The Screwtape Letters.

https://tinyurl.com/pzuyruku

Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (4thlk)

154 Until We Have Faces is one of the lesser known of Lewis's works. For some reason I have the urge to find and read it even though I honestly don't remember a lot of it.
Posted by: Northern lurker
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This is another one I read long ago and should reread. Just checked and I still have my copy.

*adds to already out-of-control reading pile*

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (kTRt4)

155 I think Mussolini said something about democracy and that we here in the land of the freebies and RV's for the tame would come to see it sooner or later.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (R/m4+)

156 That Prince of Egypt video is neat.

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (Cxk7w)

157 Ted Torgenson - Pixy is not letting my full response to you go through but thank you for posting those pictures - gorgeous!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (45fpk)

158 The troll, oddly enough, has nothing to be proud of.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (lgiXo)

159 BTW, I'm a little too self conscious about my voice to join in singing.

Posted by: Northern lurker
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Don't worry we will all sing loud enough to drown you out!

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 11:41 AM (kTRt4)

160 BTW, I'm a little too self conscious about my voice to join in singing.

This is one of the things I love about going to Mass. Combined with a hundred other voices, I don’t feel so self-conscious.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 03, 2021 11:42 AM (CX3cf)

161 138 Guess I'm on the lookout for these letters now.if I ever come across them.
Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 11:33 AM (Cxk7w)

It's here:

http://www.samizdat.qc.ca/arts/lit/PDFs/ ScrewtapeLetters_CSL.pdf

Posted by: m at April 03, 2021 11:42 AM (6dJKT)

162
I hate to sound naive but this is kind of a new idea to me. I used to think people wanted freedom. It's the final mask to fall, and it's made me depressed.
Posted by: Max Power

"Mask to fall" is a phrase that would be humorous if it weren't so maddening considering the masks stay on.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 03, 2021 11:43 AM (63Dwl)

163 Hey, Jim! "Slap a hot iron" is timeless... if nothing else you will forget any other problems you have for awhile.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 11:44 AM (kTRt4)

164 I haven't sung the Hallelujah Chorus since high school when only two if us were actual basses. The director asked the two of us to try to fill the auditorium for those few bass segments. Back then I could. It felt glorious.

Posted by: JTB at April 03, 2021 11:45 AM (7EjX1)

165 153 KT linked to the later 'Screwtape Proposes a Toast' but here's the link to The Screwtape Letters.

https://tinyurl.com/pzuyruku
Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (4thlk)

Hadn't seen this when I posted a link (same link).

Posted by: m at April 03, 2021 11:45 AM (6dJKT)

166 Excellent post! Thank you, Open Blogger.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2021 11:46 AM (FMoYW)

167 Oben blogger...KT

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2021 11:46 AM (FMoYW)

168 The Old Testament is replete with God having commanded the People of Israel to slay entire populations. All for various reasons, but mostly boiling down to those being peoples who were not only separated from God, but given to the worship of (many) false idols and gods.

You know, like those who worship Fauci, kneel before Karen, sacrifice their 2 year olds to the Mask Idol, pray at the altar of Government Uber Alles, and more.

We're gonna have to get used to at least the idea of some of that Good Olde Testament Slaughter, towards the riddance of such false idols and "gods". I'd prefer that the "slaughter" occur at (only) the ballot box, but hold yet faint hope that such might still be.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 03, 2021 11:46 AM (QzJWU)

169 The troll, oddly enough, has nothing to be proud of.
Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (lgiXo)

Arabs fags be touchy, yo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2021 11:49 AM (mzC78)

170 #52
Your 10 million new job report overlooked the fact that the month before those 10 million were ctrayed
We lost 20 million jobs
Why did you leave that out ?

Posted by: Proud Moderate at April 03, 2021 11:49 AM (4nJM3)

171 Probably been mentioned a few times but Miserere by Allegri is very moving.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 03, 2021 11:50 AM (Q87rR)

172 >>Probably more like 1/3s, 1/3 wants to be free, 1/3 wants security in life and 1/3 are totalitarian wanting to run everything

Yep. And the 1/3 that want security are generally apolitical; they don't mind totalitarianism if they think it will bring security. So there is no longer anything close to a majority that will defend freedom for it's own sake.

Posted by: Bigsmith at April 03, 2021 11:51 AM (G/mW5)

173 52 Last month 916k new jobs were created. The MSM is orgasmic. The economy is back. Recovery summer!!

Meanwhile, between May and August of 2020,10 Million jobs were created. But the media said that meant nothing because reasons.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at April 03, 2021 10:52 AM (wyszq)

The FICUS wants to implement a jobs plan that will get '19 million people' good-paying jobs.

Question: There are 9 million unemployed, and he wants to create 19 million jobs. Who's supposed to get the other 10 million jobs he's proposing to create?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 03, 2021 11:52 AM (mdjgu)

174 It seems to me there's a flash mob Hallelujah Chorus that's worth watching.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:52 AM (lgiXo)

175 Heh. Butt-plowed Dodderate is sounding more and more like raimondo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2021 11:53 AM (mzC78)

176 Good to know the UK is utterly lost.

London police shut down mass on Good Friday, right in the middle of it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 03, 2021 11:55 AM (Q87rR)

177 And here it is.

https://youtu.be/SXh7JR9oKVE

It's obviously Christmas but never mind.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:56 AM (lgiXo)

178 The pic at the top reminds me of Chartes. Maybe Notre Dame?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 03, 2021 11:56 AM (AytXr)

179 >>> "Mask to fall" is a phrase that would be humorous if it weren't so maddening considering the masks stay on.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 03, 2021 11:43 AM (63Dwl)

I tried google searching for:
"in the time of masks the masks have fallen"

and only received one return.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 11:58 AM (Bwq3v)

180 The Russian Easter Overture is one of the pieces that I've used to demonstrate hi-fi gear.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 03, 2021 11:58 AM (AytXr)

181 you don't want to see naughty pics of me, or of most librarians I know. Trust me on this...

Posted by: screaming in digital

Now, now, let's not make any hasty decisions !

Hiya Screamie !

Posted by: JT at April 03, 2021 12:00 PM (arJlL)

182 m - hope I can figure it out, old tablet wouldn't read pdf but new ( on now) has a pdf reader, just have to figure out how to get it there.

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 12:01 PM (Cxk7w)

183 Hiya

Posted by: JT at April 03, 2021 12:02 PM (arJlL)

184 Hiya KT !

Happy Easter !

Posted by: JT at April 03, 2021 12:03 PM (arJlL)

185 182 OH, and learn French

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 12:04 PM (Cxk7w)

186 Hey there JT, how are you?

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 12:04 PM (kTRt4)

187 Great observations re C.S. Lewis. Well done, KT!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2021 12:05 PM (YqDXo)

188 The enemedia panty wetters are having a mass soaking over Peter Navarro calling out the Fauci fraud.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 12:07 PM (y7DUB)

189 Probably been mentioned a few times but Miserere by Allegri is very moving.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Ah. One of my favorites, The Tallis Scholars: tinyurl.com/mwsnzn5j

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 03, 2021 12:07 PM (DMQdU)

190 Once again hearing those dreadful words ......

Mom, Will you cut my hair?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 03, 2021 12:09 PM (Vxu+H)

191 I made my son read Screwtape. He isn't very good with satire, doesn't get the subtleties, but he understood what Screwtape was up to. Brilliant.

Even if my son has very little in the way of a conscience, he still believes in Jesus and goes to Confession before he receives Our Lord. We have a very good priest who tells us that, even though our son may be seriously off in the head, he goes to Mass, he is there with Our Lord, he receives His Grace, and I think that is very true.

Remember that His Grace is not a trickle, not withheld, not even a river, but a mighty flood and all we need to is reach out and receive it. Praised be His Holy Name.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:10 PM (N5Tno)

192 @ Jim, 168, I believe most of the people targeted for being wiped out by Israel in the OT were practicing child sacrifice.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 03, 2021 12:10 PM (2SdPm)

193 190 Once again hearing those dreadful words ......

Mom, Will you cut my hair?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 03, 2021 12:09 PM (Vxu+H)

Well, grab the clippers and go high and tight. The worse the haircut, the less chance of a repeat.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:11 PM (N5Tno)

194 185 182 OH, and learn French
Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 12:04 PM (Cxk7w)

Take the blank space out before the word Screwtape!

Or just use lowandslow's tinyurl here:

https://tinyurl.com/pzuyruku
Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2021 11:39 AM (4thlk)

Posted by: m at April 03, 2021 12:11 PM (6dJKT)

195 I really need to get outside and do some yard work. And some cooking. I think I over did it yesterday. My body hurts.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 12:12 PM (E0OEG)

196 18 The stained glass at Notre Dame is something to see.

When you are able to see it again, or if you are in Paris before that, be sure to go across the street from the plaza in from of Notre Dame to Sainte-Chapelle at the Conciergerie. Try to do it on a sunny day and try not to gasp when you get upstairs to the main chapel.

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at April 03, 2021 12:14 PM (IIOyJ)

197 I really need to get outside and do some yard work. And some cooking. I think I over did it yesterday. My body hurts.
Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 12:12 PM (E0OEG)

I just had to come in from yard work, I was very stressed, really losing my temper and in a very bad way!
Handel had the cure for that, at least temporarily!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 12:15 PM (hOUT3)

198 Hey there JT, how are you?
Posted by: screaming in digital

Quack-Quack !

Posted by: JT at April 03, 2021 12:16 PM (arJlL)

199 174 It seems to me there's a flash mob Hallelujah Chorus that's worth watching.
Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 11:52 AM (lgiXo)

That one in a Canadian mall? Yeah, that's great. Guaranteed to lift your spirits.

Since I am going to be very busy with cleaning, cooking, church and company today and tomorrow, an early Happy Easter to the Christian 'rons and 'ettes. Happy Passover to the Jews.

And Alex, you have my condolences.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at April 03, 2021 12:17 PM (HabA/)

200 Another particularly relevant essay from C.S. Lewis is "A Dream" from his outstanding posthumous collection Present Concerns. It's almost exclusively about social, political, and military issues. I posted an excerpt of "A Dream" here: http://agentintellect.blogspot.com/2011/11/quote-of-day.html

Posted by: Jim S. at April 03, 2021 12:17 PM (ynUnH)

201 {{{Commissar Hrothgar}}} Dear Sir!

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 12:17 PM (E0OEG)

202
@ Jim, 168, I believe most of the people targeted for being wiped out by Israel in the OT were practicing child sacrifice.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 03, 2021 12:10 PM (2SdPm)

Most of the time it's not an eliminationist imperative. The two that I can recall were against the Canaanites in the holy land, and one of them was specifically about their baby-killing ways (Hinnom/Gehenna).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2021 12:18 PM (Uh2oA)

203 Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at April 03, 2021 12:14 PM (IIOyJ)

Yes, it's stunning. I'm so glad that that window was not damaged in the fire.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at April 03, 2021 12:18 PM (HabA/)

204 Ran across a "friend of a friend" on social media recently who thought that donating money to religious organizations and other charitable organizations rather than paying money in taxes was "hypocritical", because taxes "help all of us".

Simply a cheapskate bastard, as is every Prog in my experience.

A big scam by wealthy Progs who feel the need to be seen as big-time charitable for PR reasons, is forming charitable foundations. 99.999 percent of the 'chartitable donations' money comes in from people other than the founder, but the founder can say he/she was responsible for $xx million in charity distributions to good causes in the past year.

For reference, see Clinton Global Initiative.

Posted by: Gref at April 03, 2021 12:18 PM (AMIL/)

205 44 Police In England Break Up A Good Friday Mass

https://bit.ly/3moyOuD

What a coincidence!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 03, 2021 10:48 AM (VVEnO)

There is no Mass on Good Friday. It is a service. Good Friday is the only day in the year when Mass is not said.

OTOH, were I the congregants, I would think a quiet word would be had with the authorities about overstepping bounds. They don't have our Bill of Rights, though, so what could or could not be done is questionable. Perhaps a late night call next week during Ramadan to tell the cops about the line of folks outside the local mosque?

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:19 PM (N5Tno)

206 Another beautiful Pascha/Easter hymn: https://youtu.be/BYwnhXCZ_lY

Posted by: Ann K. at April 03, 2021 12:19 PM (BeaRF)

207 {{{Posted by: Infidel}}}

My dear friend!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 12:20 PM (hOUT3)

208 >>> Heh. Butt-plowed Dodderate is sounding more and more like raimondo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2021 11:53 AM (mzC7

Stupidity has a morphology all its own. Bound to repetitive patterns of broken thought that have plagued mankind throughout its existence. We rise above it infrequently and get to glimpse the boundless variety of thought in the light and freedom of truth for only moments.

The "progress" and "future" offered by the left are undoubtedly old deeply worn ruts. Those who've looked to history will find the path these ruts lead familiar.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 12:20 PM (Bwq3v)

209 Ran across a "friend of a friend" on social media recently who thought that donating money to religious organizations and other charitable organizations rather than paying money in taxes was "hypocritical", because taxes "help all of us".

Well, that's true, in that if you donate to your Church, odds are that money won't go to pay for young Susie to transition to a semblance of a "man."

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:20 PM (N5Tno)

210
Also, a Happy Easter to the gentile Horde. May it be a brief respite in this turbulent year.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2021 12:21 PM (Uh2oA)

211 I wonder if police departments have provisions for conscientious objections.
You want me to break up a church service? Nope, not gonna do it. Send someone else.
In asking the question I'm pretty sure they don't.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 12:21 PM (lgiXo)

212 >>Good Friday is the only day in the year when Mass is not said.

Stacey Abrams fav day of the year!

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 12:22 PM (FgAzp)

213
Yeah the government totally *helps* people.

Yeah. That's what they do. They help.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2021 12:23 PM (Uh2oA)

214 Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:20 PM (N5Tno)

I'd also like to think the level of misuse of funds in the church is miniscule/non-existent when compared to the professional thievery that has been perfected within the tax code!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 12:23 PM (hOUT3)

215 When you are able to see it again, or if you are in Paris before that, be sure to go across the street from the plaza in from of Notre Dame to Sainte-Chapelle at the Conciergerie. Try to do it on a sunny day and try not to gasp when you get upstairs to the main chapel.
Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at April 03, 2021 12:14 PM (IIOyJ)

Ste Chappelle was built as a reliquary to house the crown of thorns, I believe. It is a one of a kind building and positively amazing. There is a 360 photo of the upper chapel so you can look at everything online, if, you are, like me, unlikely to visit in person.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:23 PM (N5Tno)

216 Here is a list of all the ebooks available (free) at Samizdat, including a lot of C. S. Lewis, and instructions to read the pdfs on Kindles and iPads and such:

http://www.samizdat.qc.ca//Ebooks/index.html

Posted by: m at April 03, 2021 12:23 PM (6dJKT)

217 My act of defiance.
Today I tied a mask to my radio antenna.
There it will stay.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2021 12:24 PM (axyOa)

218 Also, a Happy Easter to the gentile Horde. May it be a brief respite in this turbulent year.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

I am strangely calm and peaceful. Somehow, your comment washed over me. Thank you.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 12:24 PM (E0OEG)

219 There is no Mass on Good Friday. It is a service. Good Friday is the only day in the year when Mass is not said.

Posted by: tcn in AK

Do you think a single one of the modern Stasi forces or their supporters know or care?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 03, 2021 12:26 PM (pAjZN)

220 We might remember that the Easter miracle is a daily occurrence, and exists all year long. No matter how dark the days become or have been, He is with us, at all times and in all places. His Mercy endures forever.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (N5Tno)

221 Stupidity has a morphology all its own.

-
The Five Universal Laws of Human Stupidity

https://bit.ly/39Gqykt

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (VVEnO)

222 I went to an ecumenical Good Friday service at my church yesterday and left feeling dissatisfied. Instead of the traditional Catholic service 7 different priests and ministers of various denominations talked about the 7 last words of Christ. Not only did I miss the traditional service but the Lutheran minister annoyed me by talking about trans rights and the poor Palestinians oppressed by the Israelis. Hey, Rev., who's wiping out all those Christian villages in the ME? Who's targeted the Copts? Not the Jews.

He served as a perfect example of the SJW mainline churches who think the way to stay relevant is to harp on lefty politics.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (HabA/)

223 lowandslow did get it, somehow took up my browser, but in the quite time that is Saturday from 3:05pm - 5pm here will read it.

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (Cxk7w)

224 Do you think a single one of the modern Stasi forces or their supporters know or care?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 03, 2021 12:26 PM (pAjZN)

No, but He does. Which is more important?

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (N5Tno)

225 No, but He does. Which is more important?
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (N5Tno)

tcn, you are spot on today.
May your Easter Day be a blessing to you and yours!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 12:29 PM (hOUT3)

226 He served as a perfect example of the SJW mainline churches who think the way to stay relevant is to harp on lefty politics.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (HabA/)

Ecumenical was the first mistake. Either you believe something or you don't. Ecumenical says everyone has the truth, and every truth is equally valid. I doubt Jesus came to whine about inequality. That's not quite what I read in His book.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:29 PM (N5Tno)

227 Yeah the government totally *helps* people.

Yeah. That's what they do. They help.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Well, it has sure helped Hunter.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 03, 2021 12:30 PM (VVEnO)

228
Years ago, I heard a "rabbi" lecture us about our sins against the Arabs on Yom Kippur. I walked out. One other guy did, an old man with IDF insignia on his yarmulke.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2021 12:30 PM (Uh2oA)

229 Thanks for the C. S. Lewis reading, KT!

Posted by: m at April 03, 2021 12:31 PM (6dJKT)

230
Well, that's true, in that if you donate to your Church, odds are that money won't go to pay for young Susie to transition to a semblance of a "man."
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief

Department of Defense money is set aside for that.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 03, 2021 12:31 PM (63Dwl)

231 Donna haven't been to a church service in many years would have walked out when the Leftism service took over.

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 12:32 PM (Cxk7w)

232 tcn, you are spot on today.
May your Easter Day be a blessing to you and yours!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at April 03, 2021 12:29 PM (hOUT3)

And to everyone here, as well.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 03, 2021 12:32 PM (N5Tno)

233 Give your spare change to an alcoholic wanting a drink is a better use of your money than taxes.

Posted by: Northern lurker at April 03, 2021 12:33 PM (lgiXo)

234
Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls?

Luke 12:24

Posted by: Corner Stone at April 03, 2021 12:33 PM (NsI03)

235 one thing the china virus has demonstrated is there seems to be many people who can be made afraid and a lot of people are unthinking rule followers, or it would seem
Posted by: will choose a nic later at April 03, 2021 10:58 AM (r4bSV)

I am one of those rule followers. And I've thought about this a lot in the past number of years - why am I that way? It's obvious to me that in society, I'm the sucker. I know that. But I thrive in order, not chaos. And it may be a rationalization, but I think we need to follow rules for order and so that's why.

It REALLY pisses me off when everybody believes we need to reorder society due to this virus, but then don't follow the rules they make for everybody. If you're going to fuck everything up, then you need to live with the consequences not unlike blue state voters should not be allowed to move to prosperous red states.

I can't go out the door anymore without getting royally pissed off, so I'm stuck now.

Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 12:33 PM (9AFWN)

236 Not only did I miss the traditional service but the Lutheran minister annoyed me by talking about trans rights and the poor Palestinians oppressed by the Israelis. Hey, Rev., who's wiping out all those Christian villages in the ME? Who's targeted the Copts? Not the Jews.

He served as a perfect example of the SJW mainline churches who think the way to stay relevant is to harp on lefty politics.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (HabA/)
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Not one single Easter message from the Lutheran-based university where I teach. Not a single word.
I'm glad I'm not Lutheran.

Posted by: Former Prof at April 03, 2021 12:34 PM (axyOa)

237 Ignorant troll is an ignorant hard Lefty. I know this because it has all the mental defects of a Lefty. The latest it revealed was Presentism.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2021 12:34 PM (2DOZq)

238 Dear Horde, I've got stuff to accomplish before heading outside to enjoy this glorious day in SE Wyo, but here is the hymn I have playing right now and I thought some of y'all might enjoy it ... not an Easter hymn specifically, but about the surety of God's promises.

A Debtor to Mercy Alone (Indelible Grace version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ0Yo7qC9lc

Lyrics here: https://bit.ly/3mfJYSm

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 12:34 PM (kTRt4)

239 Oh, and I also found S retake difficult to read prefixes for the reason C.S.Lewis said it was unpleasant to write. It's hard to think and live in an Isaiah 5:20 world.

Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 12:35 PM (9AFWN)

240 That scientist video in the sidebar is worth watching. He has a bit of a long intro establishing his credentials etc but... then its a storm of data and facts, common sense, logic, and truth. Worth watching before it gets taken down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:36 PM (KZzsI)

241

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 03, 2021 12:37 PM (ZzcdE)

242 *Screwtape* not S retake.

Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 12:37 PM (9AFWN)

243 >>> I went to an ecumenical Good Friday service at my church yesterday and left feeling dissatisfied. Instead of the traditional Catholic service 7 different priests and ministers of various denominations talked about the 7 last words of Christ. Not only did I miss the traditional service but the Lutheran minister annoyed me by talking about trans rights and the poor Palestinians oppressed by the Israelis. Hey, Rev., who's wiping out all those Christian villages in the ME? Who's targeted the Copts? Not the Jews.

He served as a perfect example of the SJW mainline churches who think the way to stay relevant is to harp on lefty politics.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (HabA/)

A good thing I've seen was when our priest had a procession through town, carrying a cross along with leaders from the baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, etc.. The various congregants followed. They would all take turns carrying the cross. There were prayers and some solemn singing. This was Maundy Thursday I think but I'm not certain. A small town in northwest GA.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 12:37 PM (Bwq3v)

244 Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov: Russian Easter Festival Overture

My entry into classical music as a lad when my school orchestra performed it. Thanks, KT

Posted by: crisis du jour at April 03, 2021 12:37 PM (qVX10)

245 240That scientist video in the sidebar is worth watching. He has a bit of a
long intro establishing his credentials etc but... then its a storm of
data and facts, common sense, logic, and truth. Worth watching before
it gets taken down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:36 PM (KZzsI)

Seconded. Watch it. Book mark it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 03, 2021 12:37 PM (ZzcdE)

246 241
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 03, 2021 12:37 PM (ZzcdE)

EXACTLY how I feel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2021 12:38 PM (85Gof)

247 >>> That scientist video in the sidebar is worth watching. He has a bit of a long intro establishing his credentials etc but... then its a storm of data and facts, common sense, logic, and truth. Worth watching before it gets taken down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:36 PM (KZzsI)

I wish he was allowed to finish.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 12:38 PM (Bwq3v)

248 For example, he starts out pointing out that the average age of death from the Wuhan Fu is the same as... the average age of death overall for everyone.

Also he points out the significance of Vitamin D and how there's no such thing as a "flu season"... its just a Vitamin D deficiency season. You cannot synthesize Vitamin D from sunlight on your skin in the winter through most of America, and that results in lower defenses against illness.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:39 PM (KZzsI)

249 >>That scientist video in the sidebar is worth watching.

Lady introducing him is +1

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 12:39 PM (FgAzp)

250 The lyrics to the Russian lenten chant:

Let my prayer arise in thy sight as incense, and let the lifting up of my hands be an evening sacrifice.

Lord, I have called to thee, hear me! Attend to the voice of my prayer when I call to thee!

Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord, keep watch over the door around my lips!

Incline not my heart to words of evil, to invent excuses for my sins.

Let my prayer arise in Thy sight as incense, and let the lifting up of my hands be an evening sacrifice.

Posted by: m at April 03, 2021 12:39 PM (6dJKT)

251 Guy has only treated 350k patients.

Piker.

Posted by: Anthony Fauci at April 03, 2021 12:40 PM (FgAzp)

252 He further points out that the darker your skin is, the harder it is to synthesize vitamin D. This explains why duskier skin folks are having a worse problem with Wuhan Flu than crackers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

253 Interesting possibility from looking at crucifixion website descriptions is only the crossbar portion of the cross was forced on the condemned.

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 12:41 PM (Cxk7w)

254 I am one of those rule followers.
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As am I. I think most of us are. But there is a time to follow the rules and a time not to follow the rules. Personally I am almost fully persuaded that we are in a time to not follow the rules. Which is why I now invoke the ironic phrase of "law abiding citizen."

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 12:42 PM (IDhUW)

255 I am one of those rule followers. And I've thought about this a lot in the past number of years - why am I that way? It's obvious to me that in society, I'm the sucker. I know that.
---
InCali, #metoo and sometimes I hate myself for complying.

I believe there are/will be many ways to resist though.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 12:42 PM (kTRt4)

256 Interesting possibility from looking at crucifixion website descriptions is only the crossbar portion of the cross was forced on the condemned.

Was usually T-shaped too not t shaped.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:44 PM (KZzsI)

257 Christopher R Taylor, I've been meaning to tell you, I recently read one of your books and really enjoyed it. Very different from my usual fare but I stayed up til 1 AM reading a couple times, and I can't remember the last time that happened.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 12:45 PM (kTRt4)

258 I guess we are on Tejas time.

Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 12:45 PM (2veAp)

259 No, but He does. Which is more important?
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief

Odd that this jag is being regurgitated on Twitter by militant atheists by the thousands to excuse UK forces breaking up the services.

And here we are justifying it.

Odd that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 03, 2021 12:46 PM (pAjZN)

260 I recently read one of your books and really enjoyed it.

Thank you so much, that is very encouraging and makes me happy to read. I'm glad you liked my work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:46 PM (KZzsI)

261
More Handel for those observing Passover. The final chorus from the oratorio Israel in Egypt

https://youtu.be/U0nMXunT3A4

Sing ye to the Lord, for He hath triumphed gloriously.
The Lord shall reign forever and ever.
The horse and his rider hath He thrown into the sea.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 03, 2021 12:46 PM (mht8P)

262 OK. That pic of Ace in the Tootoo makes the whole video worth it.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 12:46 PM (ExAzx)

263 >>> Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:39 PM (KZzsI)

They cut him off I guess because of time constraints so he had to hurry up. But he laid his three main points:

1) You should take vitamin D. Most especially if you have darker skin and/or live north of Lat. 35.

2) Ivermectin is an effective treatment for covid.

3) The vaccinations are not vaccinations and he believes the possible risks of receiving it outway its possible benefits.

Watch the video for more details.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 12:46 PM (Bwq3v)

264 Also he points out the significance of Vitamin D and how there's no such thing as a "flu season"... its just a Vitamin D deficiency season. You cannot synthesize Vitamin D from sunlight on your skin in the winter through most of America, and that results in lower defenses against illness.
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Interesting and easy to explain to anyone open to listening about the ChiVi and flu season.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 12:47 PM (IDhUW)

265 I've really got to get out of here or I'll end up on the Wall of Shame. Where, I might point out, 'ettes are underrepresented. Clearly, this is SEXIST!!! /s

have a wonderful day, lovely 'ettes and handsome 'rons

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 12:48 PM (kTRt4)

266 I am one of those rule followers. And I've thought about this a lot in the past number of years - why am I that way? It's obvious to me that in society, I'm the sucker. I know that.
---
InCali, #metoo and sometimes I hate myself for complying.

I believe there are/will be many ways to resist though.
Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 12:42 PM (kTRt4)

Best way to resist? Live like a free American.

Posted by: Justsayin' at April 03, 2021 12:48 PM (Fs5vw)

267 My act of defiance.
Today I tied a mask to my radio antenna.
There it will stay.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2021 12:24 PM (axyOa)

Nice!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 03, 2021 12:49 PM (R/m4+)

268 Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 12:46 PM (Bwq3v)

Also, masks are BS.

And amazingly the list pretty much says what many of us who have been 'Fact Checked' have been saying for a year now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2021 12:49 PM (oHd/0)

269 Which is why I now invoke the ironic phrase of "law abiding citizen."
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 12:42 PM (IDhUW)
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I no longer refer to myself as a law abiding citizen, rather, I am a "peaceful" citizen.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 03, 2021 12:49 PM (2SdPm)

270 >>And amazingly the list pretty much says what many of us who have been 'Fact Checked' have been saying for a year now.

Surely that is luck.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 12:50 PM (DEGQX)

271 224 Do you think a single one of the modern Stasi forces or their supporters know or care?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 03, 2021 12:26 PM (pAjZN)

If they knew of the difference they likely would have chosen a different day. I'm sure Good Friday was chosen for a reason.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 12:51 PM (IDhUW)

272 The vaccinations are not vaccinations and he believes the possible risks of receiving it outway its possible benefits.

This is my concern, its my fear about the current shot: this is largely not known or understood. It could be incredibly harmful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:51 PM (KZzsI)

273
Garden nood

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 03, 2021 12:52 PM (mht8P)

274 That little bit about disease that have treaments CAN'T have Vaccines is a Giant Bombshell.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 12:52 PM (DEGQX)

275 I wish I hadn't mentioned The Masters. OF course the crazy left got cranked up this morning. I knew it like I knew the sun will set in the West. So Kieth Olbermann wants to boycott. I say good, that jagoff was never going to matter anyway.

Posted by: Quint at April 03, 2021 12:53 PM (2veAp)

276 He also points out what I have been saying for months now

WE ARE NO IN A PANDEMIC. We were, but are not now. Pandemic has a specific definition. We are not in that defined range. STOP CALLING IT A PANDEMIC

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:54 PM (KZzsI)

277 The COVID video does a good job of pulling together a bunch of scattered information and putting it all together into a cohesive format.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 03, 2021 12:55 PM (2SdPm)

278 >> The COVID video does a good job of pulling together a bunch of scattered information and putting it all together into a cohesive format.

Which explains why it will HAVE to be taken down.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 12:56 PM (DEGQX)

279 I no longer refer to myself as a law abiding citizen, rather, I am a "peaceful" citizen.
Posted by: blake
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How about a "mostly peaceful" citizen?

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 03, 2021 12:56 PM (kTRt4)

280 Not only did I miss the traditional service but the Lutheran minister annoyed me by talking about trans rights and the poor Palestinians oppressed by the Israelis. Hey, Rev., who's wiping out all those Christian villages in the ME? Who's targeted the Copts? Not the Jews.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at April 03, 2021 12:27 PM (HabA/)

"Men and women, He created them." So I guess God got it wrong with these trans people, minister. Guess we need to scratch "perfect" off the description of God. Which then raises the question of why worship Him?

Whole bunch of "Lutheran" synods have backed themselves into that because they want to force God to be in their image, and not the other way around. That has never worked out, and even if it did it'd make God a monster that varies as much as man, and makes Him just a version of the Greek and Roman gods, with less sex with random women.

I'll bet these leaders haven't put much thought into the parable of the Talents and Jesus line of to whom much has been given, much is required and that that includes leadership in the church.

Posted by: Bete at April 03, 2021 12:56 PM (Ojki1)

281 Which explains why it will HAVE to be taken down.

Panicked Karen: We have to follow the science!!!!

Experts in the field disagree with Fauci

PK: NOT THAT SCIENCE!!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 12:57 PM (KZzsI)

282 I can't say "the most disturbing part" because there are so many, but - in addition to realizing that people are clearly learning absolutely nothing in high school or college, or from listening to their moms and grandmothers when they're young - one of the most mind-blowing things for me is seeing how difficult it is to find information online now.

Search engines are actively *preventing* people from searching, finding, and receiving information on things like asymptomatic spread, which has been settled science for 100 years or so. Go try and find information on the cytokine storm that the COVID test animals suffered after re-exposure to the virus. Go on. I dare you to try and search for the information.

We have potential to hold the sum of human knowledge in our hands, and its use is actively thwarted.

Posted by: Lysenko -Official dot gov Wyoming COVID vaccination card link, should be 4.25x3.5 at April 03, 2021 12:57 PM (bm04m)

283 Maybe I'm not as much of a rule follower as I thought. Only my oldest child got the first set of vaccinations as an infant. I still regret that. Other children chose vaccination when entering college.

Any the gvt pushes strongly, I am suspicious of, always have been.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 12:57 PM (IDhUW)

284 The Ivermectin stuff is profoundly disturbing.

In as much that we have completely ignored its effects.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 12:58 PM (DEGQX)

285 Taking a beer break. Bacon is fried, potatoes are peeled, onions and celery are diced. Next is making the German Tater Salad and some Hot Bacon dressing for tomorrow.

Prolly will have another beer or 3 before starting that.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at April 03, 2021 12:59 PM (ju2Fy)

286 Go try and find information on the cytokine storm that the COVID test animals suffered after re-exposure to the virus. Go on. I dare you to try and search for the information.

Yeah, the core benefit of the internet is being destroyed by deliberate moves from companies who benefit financially and politically by doing so.

Its sad, I remember the golden age when everything was out there and people weren't politically censored. That age ended on the day the PRESIDENT OF THE FREAKING UNITED STATES WAS CENSORED ON TWITTER

Even other world leaders in the most left wing governments on earth were shocked and horrified by this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:00 PM (KZzsI)

287 >>I regard CS Lewis as a prophet. His ability to see trends in culture and their long term effects and problems is as great as anyone in the 20th century. That ability encompasses religion, faith both religious and cultural, and linguistic. Add to that a talent for expressing his thoughts and a sense of humor or irony. It's a heady mixture.
Posted by: JTB

Agreed on all counts. I have many/most of his writings.

An interesting and completely unrelated factoid, CS Lewis failed his driver's test 16 times. Not kidding.

Posted by: squeakywheel at April 03, 2021 01:00 PM (mL2J9)

288 As I searched for my copy of Mere Christianity, I came across a book which I read when my children were young, Withhold not Correction. Made me realize we have at least a couple of generations now who raised their kids without correction.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:01 PM (IDhUW)

289 Lewis was a genius and gifted by God on a level that is difficult to even understand. He was a gigantic titan astride the earth in intellect and talent. His insight and learning surpasses anyone alive today. The greatest thinkers of our time are on his shoulders, he was a modern Augustine or Anselm. Thinkers like him come along a few every millennia, not once a century.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:02 PM (KZzsI)

290 For example, he starts out pointing out that the average age of death from the Wuhan Fu is the same as... the average age of death overall for everyone.

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IIRC the average age of COVID death for males is five or six years older than average plain-old death for males.

Posted by: Lysenko -Official dot gov Wyoming COVID vaccination card link, should be 4.25x3.5 at April 03, 2021 01:03 PM (bm04m)

291 284 The Ivermectin stuff is profoundly disturbing.

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Summary?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:03 PM (IDhUW)

292 >>> Also, masks are BS.

And amazingly the list pretty much says what many of us who have been 'Fact Checked' have been saying for a year now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2021 12:49 PM (oHd/0)

Oh, Yeah. I forgot that because it seems so obvious. I don't think there's a single person alive that doesn't know the masks are bullshit.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 01:03 PM (Bwq3v)

293 289 Lewis was a genius and gifted by God on a level that is difficult to even understand. He was a gigantic titan astride the earth in intellect and talent. His insight and learning surpasses anyone alive today. The greatest thinkers of our time are on his shoulders, he was a modern Augustine or Anselm. Thinkers like him come along a few every millennia, not once a century.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:02 PM (KZzsI)

And modern leaders are trying hard through their control of education or social media pressure to make sure another one can't arise anytime soon.

Posted by: Bete at April 03, 2021 01:03 PM (Ojki1)

294 >>Summary?

50k overview :

It works EVERYWHERE it has been tried.

So. We officially refused to try it.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 01:04 PM (DEGQX)

295 292 >>> Also, masks are BS.

And amazingly the list pretty much says what many of us who have been 'Fact Checked' have been saying for a year now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2021 12:49 PM (oHd/0)

Oh, Yeah. I forgot that because it seems so obvious. I don't think there's a single person alive that doesn't know the masks are bullshit.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 01:03 PM (Bwq3v)

I know someone in the medical profession who is either a true believer in them or has some more sinister motive cause she went on at length on how good they are and how they helped keep the flu down this last year.

Posted by: Bete at April 03, 2021 01:05 PM (Ojki1)

296 Oh, yeah...

cost is under $30 per person in the US.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 01:06 PM (DEGQX)

297 And modern leaders are trying hard through their control of education or social media pressure to make sure another one can't arise anytime soon.

How many have been murdered through abortion? How many aren't being born because everyone is choosing to have only one child, or no children at all now?

Summary?

Its incredibly effective against virii, particularly Covid, giving positive results within 2 days, and has been tested on FIVE BILLION PEOPLE world wide since its introduction. THe problem is, like HCQ its off patent and dirt cheap, so nobody gets rich off it, so the US said it doesn't work and should not be used.

Europe uses it, lots of people use it around the world and its worked wonderfully. In India they started handing out blister packs of the stuff for 5 cents each to people and made a huge difference.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:06 PM (KZzsI)

298 Its sad, I remember the golden age when everything was out there and people weren't politically censored. That age ended on the day the PRESIDENT OF THE FREAKING UNITED STATES WAS CENSORED ON TWITTER

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That's always been my biggest gripe with the left, and it always bothered me that so many Democrat voters were willingly blind to it.

I'm beginning to appreciate that they weren't blind to it at all and were perfectly fine with using conservatives' "live and let live" approach against us.

Posted by: Lysenko -Official dot gov Wyoming COVID vaccination card link, should be 4.25x3.5 at April 03, 2021 01:07 PM (bm04m)

299 >>I know someone in the medical profession who is either a true believer in them or has some more sinister motive

My guess is she is an idiot with a degree.

No studies have ever shown masks to be effective and those studies all centered around proper masks with proper use.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 01:07 PM (DEGQX)

300 294 >>Summary?

50k overview :

It works EVERYWHERE it has been tried.

So. We officially refused to try it.

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Wow - thank you.

Family has animals and already know that they can get ivermectin from the vet and use it if necessary. Possibly already have some on hand.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:08 PM (IDhUW)

301 Is Ivermectin used as a prophylactic or cure, or either?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at April 03, 2021 01:08 PM (ju2Fy)

302 >>Is Ivermectin used as a prophylactic or cure, or either?

Both.

It's what they give you in areas where West Nile is prevalent.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 01:08 PM (DEGQX)

303 And modern leaders are trying hard through their control of education or social media pressure to make sure another one can't arise anytime soon.
Posted by: Bete at April 03, 2021 01:03 PM (Ojki1)

Letting students scurry to their safe places whenever confronted with a contrary thought guarantees no one will learn how to think.
Mentally ill professors don't help either.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 03, 2021 01:09 PM (lgiXo)

304 Is Ivermectin used as a prophylactic or cure, or either?

It attacks the virus and kills it. its not exactly a cure, but it gives your immune system the time to properly deal with the virus instead of going into berserk overdrive and killing you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:09 PM (KZzsI)

305 >>Is Ivermectin used as a prophylactic or cure, or either?

...and, from what I heard there, it works at ALL stages. Prevantative, Early and Late.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 01:10 PM (DEGQX)

306 cost is under $30 per person in the US.

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I'm pretty much 50-50 between "planned biowarfare step with next biological agent designed to interact with programming once 99% of the population is inoculated with this new RNA vaccine against a virus that doesn't kill 99% of the population" and "Fauci and lobbyists foresee quarterly $1200 injections for every man, woman, and child in perpetuity."

I guess it could be both, though.

Posted by: Lysenko -Official dot gov Wyoming COVID vaccination card link, should be 4.25x3.5 at April 03, 2021 01:10 PM (bm04m)

307 That scientist points out in not too subtle terms that the government and big bio are using this to get rich, by controlling who gets what treatments, shutting out cheap stuff, and pushing expensive.

He also warns very darkly about the dangers of the RNA manipulating "vaccine" pointing out very rightly that it is not a vaccine by proper terms, but a medical treatment.

He points out that previous RNA-based treatments have in the past had serious later reactions in people causing autoimmune problems and miscarriages in pregnant women.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:11 PM (KZzsI)

308 That's always been my biggest gripe with the left, and it always bothered me that so many Democrat voters were willingly blind to it.

I'm beginning to appreciate that they weren't blind to it at all and were perfectly fine with using conservatives' "live and let live" approach against us.
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It has taken me awhile to understand this as well. I have been too trusting in the good faith of most people. Been burned too many times, I've got to smarten up.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:11 PM (IDhUW)

309 Withhold not Correction. Made me realize we have at least a couple of generations now who raised their kids without correction.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel

I realize this has been a problem for years. I wasn't raised that way and neither were my children. It truly dawned on me seeing a stupid commercial how WASTF. When did kindergarten become a celebration with diplomas and gowns and hats?

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2021 01:12 PM (E0OEG)

310 He also points out that the "vaccine" was tested in-house entirely and not by any independent labs or checked by anyone except the companies that produced it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:12 PM (KZzsI)

311 >> He also points out that the "vaccine" was tested in-house entirely and not by any independent labs or checked by anyone except the companies that produced it.

A little different from what Fauci demanded of the HcQ Cocktail, in'it?

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 01:13 PM (DEGQX)

312 Thanks to those putting up ChiVi info here.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:14 PM (IDhUW)

313 No studies have ever shown masks to be effective and those studies all centered around proper masks with proper use.

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I know we're not allowed to discuss the science about them, but I'm the silly t-shirt masks and disposable single-use masks have been a major component of the spread because people touch their damn faces so much while they're wearing them.

I went to a meeting where the speaker was fucking nutso about everyone having a mask on, and when I got bored about five minutes in I started counting how many times he touched his face per minute over a 30 minute period.

Low: 4
High: 40

Posted by: Lysenko -Official dot gov Wyoming COVID vaccination card link, should be 4.25x3.5 at April 03, 2021 01:14 PM (bm04m)

314 >>Thanks to those putting up ChiVi info here.

Hit up that sidebar video and if you have the means to share it, do so.

Very enlightening and a ton of information packed in there.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2021 01:16 PM (DEGQX)

315 Low: 4
High: 40

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Addendum:

This was a very credentialed pro-virus enthusiast with a couple of advanced degrees.

Posted by: Lysenko -Official dot gov Wyoming COVID vaccination card link, should be 4.25x3.5 at April 03, 2021 01:17 PM (bm04m)

316 Also he points out the significance of Vitamin D and how there's no such thing as a "flu season"... its just a Vitamin D deficiency season. You cannot synthesize Vitamin D from sunlight on your skin in the winter through most of America, and that results in lower defenses against illness.
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Interesting and easy to explain to anyone open to listening about the ChiVi and flu season.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 12:47 PM (IDhUW)

Yeah, I moved from NJ to SoCal and crossed the, what is it, 35th latitude. I didn't have a cold for 15 or so years. Then I started using sunscreen much more. I'm not a big believer in vitamins, but there has to be something to this.

Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 01:18 PM (9AFWN)

317 Yeah, this "vaccine" scares the crap out of me now. But what is done is done. I got it since I have a heart condition like Breitbart and trusted my doctors. Now I'm not so sure.

Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 01:20 PM (9AFWN)

318 In my experience and personal observation, spread of cold and flu is most likely to spread thru touch. So why would I wear a mask and think that will protect me when I touch the thing you just handed me.

Wash your hands, people.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:20 PM (IDhUW)

319 Wash your hands, people.
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Posted here often, but always worth notiing. Your mom was smart:

Don't get right up on people.
Cover your mouth when you sneeze or cough.
Wash your hands.
Keep your fingers out of your nose and mouth.
If you don't feel good stay home so you don't get other people sick.

Posted by: Lysenko -Official dot gov Wyoming COVID vaccination card link, should be 4.25x3.5 at April 03, 2021 01:23 PM (bm04m)

320 >>> That's always been my biggest gripe with the left, and it always bothered me that so many Democrat voters were willingly blind to it.

I'm beginning to appreciate that they weren't blind to it at all and were perfectly fine with using conservatives' "live and let live" approach against us.
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It has taken me awhile to understand this as well. I have been too trusting in the good faith of most people. Been burned too many times, I've got to smarten up.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:11 PM (IDhUW)

Politics, which wasn't great honestly, has really ceased to be.

What we now have is sport. Less of the ball game type and more of the Christians being food for lions.

Leftists aren't really swayed by anything as much as they've chosen a side that they now must cheer on. They definitely don't want to be down with the lions. So, ... GO TEAM!

Posted by: banana Dream at April 03, 2021 01:23 PM (Bwq3v)

321 For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction , and many enter through it.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * el Lobo solitario at April 03, 2021 01:30 PM (Bp+QX)

322 I've been (re-)reading Narnia to my younger daughter lately after she had a bit of an existential crisis a couple of weeks ago.

As I've read, I've been seeing again how Lewis could throw a bit of a shade even in the Narnia series. I remembered things like "Logic!", freeing the school kids in Caspian, and Experiment House, of course. But I'd forgotten this line at the end of TLTWATW:

"And they made good laws and kept the peace and saved good trees from being unnecessarily cut down, and liberated young dwarfs and young satyrs from being sent to school, and generally stopped busybodies and interferers and encouraged ordinary people who wanted to live and let live."

Posted by: Bitblt at April 03, 2021 01:31 PM (RlmT3)

323 If you desire a bit more of Lewis's wisdom, I would suggest the Abolition of Man.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * el Lobo solitario at April 03, 2021 01:31 PM (Bp+QX)

324 One thing have done for years is always have something in my truck to clean my hands. Job sites rarely, unless all but finished, have running water or soap.

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2021 01:33 PM (Cxk7w)

325 >>> minister annoyed me by talking about trans rights and the poor Palestinians oppressed by the Israelis.
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That's the time to stand and call him on it.
If no one stands with you it's time to leave
and find a real church.

Posted by: Braenyard, T -584 days at April 03, 2021 01:33 PM (PHq7v)

326 Has anybody read Pilgrims Progress? It was hard to get used to the old vernacular, but was quite good.

Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 01:34 PM (9AFWN)

327 Don't get right up on people.
Cover your mouth when you sneeze or cough.
Wash your hands.
Keep your fingers out of your nose and mouth.
If you don't feel good stay home so you don't get other people sick.

Which should have been the answer all along instead of "two weeks to flatten the curve" and "social distancing" etc. That and some common sense business stuff (clean the shopping carts) and we'd have a lot less general illness around the country. Imagine the productivity we could see!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:36 PM (KZzsI)

328 Has anybody read Pilgrims Progress? It was hard to get used to the old vernacular, but was quite good.
Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 01:34 PM (9AFWN

Yes I have

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 03, 2021 01:37 PM (lgiXo)

329 Leftists aren't really swayed by anything as much as they've chosen a side that they now must cheer on. They definitely don't want to be down with the lions. So, ... GO TEAM!

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I am not a big talker and I know most people already have a fixed opinion. Sometimes I am surprised tho when I state something like,"that's what viruses do, they mutate" and there is a notable pause as something clicks for them.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:38 PM (IDhUW)

330 Lewis wrote a sort of sequel or companion to Pilgrim's Progress called "Pilgrim's Regress" where a Christian in an awful setting goes wild a while and finds out how empty it all is. Its a bit more difficult read, though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 01:40 PM (KZzsI)

331 326 Has anybody read Pilgrims Progress? It was hard to get used to the old vernacular, but was quite good.
Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 01:34 PM (9AFWN)

I was thinking of the Slough of Despond (is that right? It's been a while) just yesterday.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:40 PM (IDhUW)

332 327 Don't get right up on people.

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All of this, please give me space.

Although this too is cultural. In an all too brief visit to Ireland, I was giving space in a line and kept getting cut until I realized I was going to have to close in.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:43 PM (IDhUW)

333 the poor Palestinians oppressed by the Israelis.

That is flat out counterfactual Jew hating and needs to be called out constantly.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 01:44 PM (y7DUB)

334 and liberated young dwarfs and young satyrs from being sent to school, and generally stopped busybodies and interferers and encouraged ordinary people who wanted to live and let live."

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Love it! Let the young ones, especially boys, play!

I know, sexist, I don't denounce myself.

Make an environment that encourages what is good and discourages what is bad. Of course, my definition of good and bad is quite different than what is being promoted now.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:49 PM (IDhUW)

335 That is flat out counterfactual Jew hating and needs to be called out constantly.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at April 03, 2021 01:44 PM (y7DUB)

And publicly

Posted by: CN at April 03, 2021 01:52 PM (ONvIw)

336 Link below to a C.S. Lewis broadcast on Jesus and the Resurrection.
I found it wonderful

Happy Easter to all the Horde!

https://tinyurl.com/7tveebew

Posted by: groovy girl at April 03, 2021 02:02 PM (ybC9u)

337 Nood pets

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 03, 2021 02:02 PM (kTF2Z)

338 I was thinking of the Slough of Despond (is that right? It's been a while) just yesterday.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:40 PM (IDhUW)

Yes, I think that's right. I guess that's where the swamp of sadness from Neverending Story comes from. It's where I currently reside.

Posted by: InCali at April 03, 2021 02:04 PM (9AFWN)

339 Crockpot lamb is a complete success. Tender and succulent as a young [insert lust object of choice].

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at April 03, 2021 02:13 PM (Dc2NZ)

340 Yes, I think that's right. I guess that's where the swamp of sadness from Neverending Story comes from. It's where I currently reside.
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I'm sorry to hear that InCali. It is a tough slog out, but we are not alone. May God give you peace, rest, and moments of joy.

I often think of a line from a song, "God oft gives me days of gladness, shall I grieve if He gives seasons too of sadness. God is good, and tempers ever, all my ill, and He will wholly leave me never."

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 02:14 PM (IDhUW)

341 WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS?

Because it's out of fashion in academia. It's excluded from both the university and high school classroom, as is Chesterton. And although Tolkein may find his way in, the fact that Tolkein is Christian allegory is completely ignored.

Posted by: Jim at April 03, 2021 02:19 PM (rnwV8)

342 Give a listen to Screwtape Letters read by John Cleese. It will not disappoint. Hard to find though. I purchased my used cd set on Amazon a long time ago.
A blessed Easter to you all.

Posted by: OldDominion at April 03, 2021 02:22 PM (5Mx95)

343 Jim at 02:19 PM

I knew about the Screwtape letters. Didn't know about the later piece. Amazing how well it fits today.

Posted by: KT at April 03, 2021 02:29 PM (BVQ+1)

344 Free The Screwtape Letters ebook at fadedpage.com

Posted by: 13times at April 03, 2021 02:55 PM (K3B2k)

345 Are we letting Screwtape win?/i]

Yeah duh.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) is now retired at April 03, 2021 03:11 PM (yQpMk)

346 oops

Posted by: G'rump928(c) is now retired at April 03, 2021 03:12 PM (yQpMk)

347 I believe that America has come under Judgment. I do not know if anybody here agrees or not.

Posted by: Jmel at April 03, 2021 03:59 PM (vQZRB)

348 Well God knows our nation has judgment coming

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 03, 2021 04:09 PM (KZzsI)

349 God would have spared Sodom if there were only ten righteous men; 70,000,000 people voted for Trump and those people were voting for our Republic and our Republic was formed in covenant with God.

Posted by: Braenyard, T -584 days at April 03, 2021 04:25 PM (PHq7v)

350 If you can find a video of Dolly Parton singing "He's Alive!" in concert, check it out.

Posted by: MW at April 03, 2021 11:24 PM (KXr4W)

351 The Russian Orthodox won't be celebrating for another 4 weeks (May 2nd). In a curious way the Eastern and Western churches both agree that Easter is the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox and they even agree that the vernal equinox is March 21st. The disagreement is when March 21st is and when the full moon is. On a plus side they do agree on which day of the week is Sunday!

Posted by: Tfellow at April 03, 2021 11:27 PM (2Wzk1)

352 334 and liberated young dwarfs and young satyrs from being sent to school, and generally stopped busybodies and interferers and encouraged ordinary people who wanted to live and let live."[br/][br/]-----[br/][br/]Love it! Let the young ones, especially boys, play![br/][br/]I know, sexist, I don't denounce myself.[br/][br/]Make an environment that encourages what is good and discourages what is bad. Of course, my definition of good and bad is quite different than what is being promoted now.[br/][br/]Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:49 PM (IDhUW) [br/][br/]----- [br/][br/]Test #1

Posted by: ShainS at April 04, 2021 12:00 AM (CYgrT)

353 334 and liberated young dwarfs and young satyrs from being sent to school, and generally stopped busybodies and interferers and encouraged ordinary people who wanted to live and let live."

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Love it! Let the young ones, especially boys, play!

I know, sexist, I don't denounce myself.

Make an environment that encourages what is good and discourages what is bad. Of course, my definition of good and bad is quite different than what is being promoted now.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2021 01:49 PM (IDhUW)

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Test #2

Posted by: ShainS at April 04, 2021 12:03 AM (CYgrT)

354 Just talked to my daughter this morning.
She's a long-time sister in a Franciscan community. Her order is looking into closing down (they've been ailing for some time).
She looked for, and found, another community that is still getting, and accepting, new sisters. She is in the process of transferring to the new community (should happen this summer - it's an all but done deal).
The funny thing is, the new community is one that wears a habit. Her old community is not.
She will miss her community's sisters, but believes this is a good decision for her.
She will continue her work with Special Ed students, either in NJ or Pittsburgh, where the order has schools.

Posted by: Linda S Fox at April 21, 2021 08:12 AM (HZfQV)

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