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Harvard-Harris Poll: Democrats (and Tucker Carlson) Are Once Again on the Wrong Side of an 80/20 Issue
Even Democrats support this to the tune of 70%. Now, as to approval of Trump's successful "Midnight Hammer" strike: Democrats oppose it just because they reflexively, insanely oppose anything associated with Trump. Even though the Midnight Hammer strike was successful and did stop Iran's nuke program. But even there, 58% of the public supports the strike. And Tucker Carlson needs to go back to his hard-hitting UFO reportage.Here's a graph I stole from Ed Morrissey:
Turns out, they were clutching their pearls on the wrong side of a new 80/20 issue. No, that's not an exaggeration. According to a new Harvard-Harris CAPS poll, a staggering 80% of voters back stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions "by any means necessary." That's right, "any means." Even among self-identified Democrats, support is north of 70%. That's a landslide. When it comes to the strike itself, the numbers tell a similar story that the left won't like. A solid 58% of Americans support Trump's decision to level Fordow and the other Iranian nuclear sites, despite the usual Democrat outrage machine's propaganda efforts. Predictably, 67% of Democrats oppose it. But here's the kicker: Every other demographic backs the strike, except one, Gen Z, where the split is a tight 48/52. Recommended: Media Runs Interference as Biden Autopen Scandal Explodes Even more telling, 54% of Americans consider Operation Midnight Hammer a "major accomplishment" by the U.S. military. The 46% who downplay it? You guessed it: mostly Democrats, by a lopsided 32/68 margin. Independents are split down the middle, and the youngest voters again tilt negative, 41/59. Still, Trump's bold move is winning where it counts -- and the numbers are only getting worse for his critics.
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Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (GYt5+)
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2nd?
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (GYt5+)
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3rd
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (GYt5+)
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I think Tucker needs a Snickers bar.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (Q4IgG)
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And I nooded
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (GYt5+)
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Sadly a lot of people on "our side" are against anything they perceive as being done for Israel.
Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (YwEeS)
Posted by: The CA SC at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (t0Rmr)
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Yep, if Trump cured cancer, the Dems would not approve.
Posted by: Emmie at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (rF2iL)
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An anonymous source said that Trump is landing 100K troops into Tehran tonight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)
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My line was bomb away, no ground troops.
I think that is most people's view
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The "Break Stuff" doctrine.
I think that is most people's view
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The "Break Stuff" doctrine.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (Riz8t)
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drat, Carlson's neo-Gobbles shtick did not work ? he might start day drinking again
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (g47mK)
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Maybe Tucker is angling for a weekend host gig on Coast To Coast AM.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (5yDGQ)
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An anonymous source said that Trump is landing 100K troops into Tehran tonight.
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That's a bold strategy Cotton...
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That's a bold strategy Cotton...
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (TN0g+)
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I never had the slightest concern US troops would be on the ground. Zero.
Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (YwEeS)
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This is surprising only in that 1 in 5 disagree.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (CzMNg)
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neo-Goebbels ! lol
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (g47mK)
18
Like John B. Wells?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (cn0nj)
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I think Tucker is chewing way too many of those very expensive nicotine pods he's trying to sell.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (/U5Yz)
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And Tucker Carlson needs to go back to his hard-hitting UFO reportage.
I hear James Comey's got a vault that he could open.
I hear James Comey's got a vault that he could open.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (77rzZ)
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I have additional thoughts, but first I want to hear from Todd about the timing of this post.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (CzMNg)
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The "Break Stuff" doctrine.
The *point* of war is to inflict pain on your enemy until they agree to your terms.
This whole idea of rebuilding your enemies is absurd.
The "Break Stuff" doctrine.
The *point* of war is to inflict pain on your enemy until they agree to your terms.
This whole idea of rebuilding your enemies is absurd.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (t0Rmr)
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So does "any means" mean that 80% support their sons and daughters dying in another Middle East war, 'cause I'm thinking if the question were asked that way, it would be 80/20 the other way. Which is why some polls don't ask some questions.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (MZ+PY)
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Zoloft
I'm puzzled by the people who think Iran cannot be allowed to have nukes, but oppose Midnight Hammer. What was their plan? Ask nicely?
I'm puzzled by the people who think Iran cannot be allowed to have nukes, but oppose Midnight Hammer. What was their plan? Ask nicely?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (Riz8t)
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I blame Gen Z parents for generation Z stupidity.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (g47mK)
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Did they open up Area 51 yet?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (cn0nj)
27
An anonymous source said that 100K monkeys will fly out of my butt tonight.
Posted by: Aliasjonesjones at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (vFG9F)
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So Tucker is not cool anymore?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (/lPRQ)
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80% support stopping Iran "by any means necessary"?
Jesus, sounds like the polling before the Iraq War Redux in 2003.
Jesus, sounds like the polling before the Iraq War Redux in 2003.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (uCjyK)
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Speaking of UFOs, wasn't that another subject the government promised big revelations about and then delivered bupkis?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (CzMNg)
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28 So Tucker is not cool anymore?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
It certainly seems that way.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
It certainly seems that way.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (g47mK)
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Every threat of military action would lead to another Vietnam was definitely my thinking when I was 20 years old.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (2ap+5)
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Tucker is a UFO poser. Ancient Aliens on The History Channel is the straight dope.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (pb1DT)
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wait, I get it Cool...nicotine pods...it's Tuesday...
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (g47mK)
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This isn't the World War Tucker promised.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (JvZF+)
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23 So does "any means" mean that 80% support their sons and daughters dying in another Middle East war, 'cause I'm thinking if the question were asked that way, it would be 80/20 the other way. Which is why some polls don't ask some questions.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (MZ+PY)
That would seem to be what this poll is saying. "Any means necessary" would include boots on the ground, nuclear war, etc.
I would love to see another poll with the question framed differently to corroborate that one.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (MZ+PY)
That would seem to be what this poll is saying. "Any means necessary" would include boots on the ground, nuclear war, etc.
I would love to see another poll with the question framed differently to corroborate that one.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (2ocoG)
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Ooo oo. I can tell you all my theory on this.
I think Trump hit Iran because of intel that they were behind the assassination attempt. He said "screw them. Mess with the bear and you get the claw."
I think Trump hit Iran because of intel that they were behind the assassination attempt. He said "screw them. Mess with the bear and you get the claw."
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (S6/Nv)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (/lPRQ)
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I'm puzzled by the people who think Iran cannot be allowed to have nukes, but oppose Midnight Hammer. What was their plan? Ask nicely?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (Riz8t)
Operation 9 O'clock Socket Set.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (Riz8t)
Operation 9 O'clock Socket Set.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (CzMNg)
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Iran kinda sucks at war.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (cn0nj)
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TV Dinners.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (/lPRQ)
I was thinking bow ties and the Democrat party.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (/lPRQ)
I was thinking bow ties and the Democrat party.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (g47mK)
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Every threat of military action would lead to another Vietnam was definitely my thinking when I was 20 years old.
Technically you need the French involved for it to be another Vietnam.
Technically you need the French involved for it to be another Vietnam.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (2ocoG)
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What happened to Tucker Carlson?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (hs4ik)
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30 Speaking of UFOs, wasn't that another subject the government promised big revelations about and then delivered bupkis?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Didn't you see the flying tic-tac videos the DOD released. Those are them damn flying saucers people have been seeing buzzing around that nobody can get a clear video of.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Didn't you see the flying tic-tac videos the DOD released. Those are them damn flying saucers people have been seeing buzzing around that nobody can get a clear video of.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (/U5Yz)
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30 Speaking of UFOs, wasn't that another subject the government promised big revelations about and then delivered bupkis?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (CzMNg)
Sure was. JFK, MLK, RFK, UFO's, and Epstein for those of you keeping track at home.
JFK they sort of followed through on though.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (CzMNg)
Sure was. JFK, MLK, RFK, UFO's, and Epstein for those of you keeping track at home.
JFK they sort of followed through on though.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (uCjyK)
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drat, Carlson's neo-Gobbles shtick did not work ? he might start day drinking again
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (g47mK)
I think Carlson is relying too much on Gurgles and the 3rd Reich.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (g47mK)
I think Carlson is relying too much on Gurgles and the 3rd Reich.
Posted by: Al Sharpton, Ignorant Sub 80 IQ at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (rfMRc)
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I worry that we haven't finished the job. We owe the Mullah's near 50 years of payback.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (jc0TO)
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So Tucker is not cool anymore?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
It certainly seems that way.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (Riz8t
*******
Yeah, Kooky Tucker Carlson and Crazy Candace Owens.
Self sabotage.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
It certainly seems that way.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (Riz8t
*******
Yeah, Kooky Tucker Carlson and Crazy Candace Owens.
Self sabotage.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (NpAcC)
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So Tucker is not cool anymore? ...
Tucker was never cool IMO.
He's the Bill OReilly of the Jonah Goldbergs.
Tucker was never cool IMO.
He's the Bill OReilly of the Jonah Goldbergs.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (VofaG)
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Tucker has a YouTube channel.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (cn0nj)
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45 What happened to Tucker Carlson?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (hs4ik)
I don't know, but from context clues I'd say he wasn't in favor of bombing Iran.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (hs4ik)
I don't know, but from context clues I'd say he wasn't in favor of bombing Iran.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (uCjyK)
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I think I liked Tucker when he wore bow ties. Can't remember.
Don't like him now. Or even before he started his Trump Crusade.
I am sure this makes him weep more than he already does.
Don't like him now. Or even before he started his Trump Crusade.
I am sure this makes him weep more than he already does.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 04:28 PM (6PCLE)
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47 30 Speaking of UFOs, wasn't that another subject the government promised big revelations about and then delivered bupkis?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (CzMNg)
Sure was. JFK, MLK, RFK, UFO's, and Epstein for those of you keeping track at home.
JFK they sort of followed through on though.
Epstein caught a UFO back to his home planet.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (CzMNg)
Sure was. JFK, MLK, RFK, UFO's, and Epstein for those of you keeping track at home.
JFK they sort of followed through on though.
Epstein caught a UFO back to his home planet.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:28 PM (Riz8t)
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Maybe Tucker is angling for a weekend host gig on Coast To Coast AM.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle
I'd take him over Connie.
Maybe Tucker is angling for a weekend host gig on Coast To Coast AM.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle
I'd take him over Connie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2025 04:29 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 04:29 PM (HL/Ld)
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I'm puzzled by the people who think Iran cannot be allowed to have nukes, but oppose Midnight Hammer. What was their plan? Ask nicely?
The Democrats are just reflexively opposing Trump. Hardcore lefties probably still believe the strikes did no damage. Reagan's "they know so much that just isn't so" has never been more applicable.
The Democrats are just reflexively opposing Trump. Hardcore lefties probably still believe the strikes did no damage. Reagan's "they know so much that just isn't so" has never been more applicable.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:29 PM (2ocoG)
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OT: Last month, the administration submitted a rescissions package to Congress that would cut around $9 billion in wasteful spending, which amounts to approximately one tenth of 1 percent of federal spending, with a focus on woke and wasteful foreign aid dollars.
I look forward to considering that commonsense legislation this week. - Senate Leader John Thune
I look forward to considering that commonsense legislation this week. - Senate Leader John Thune
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:29 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:29 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM (pb1DT)
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what happened to Grump ?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM (g47mK)
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The problems here is most Americans think you can win a war by just bombing the enemy. You can certainly hurt them, even affect their decision-makers, but "winning" is almost impossible.
Winning requires boots on the ground, and we don't have enough boots to do it. Iran if BIG! We would need to triple the size of our Army to even consider it.
Winning requires boots on the ground, and we don't have enough boots to do it. Iran if BIG! We would need to triple the size of our Army to even consider it.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM (W/lyH)
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9 An anonymous source said that Trump is landing 100K troops into Tehran tonight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)
If he pulled that off he'd be a military genius because hiding the staging of 100K troops and landing them in one night would be difficult to do outside of transporter technology.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)
If he pulled that off he'd be a military genius because hiding the staging of 100K troops and landing them in one night would be difficult to do outside of transporter technology.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM (6ydKt)
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He's the Bill OReilly of the Jonah Goldbergs.
Solid effort. Needs more Sean Hannity.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM
Heh. Gotta work Geraldo in there somewhere.
Solid effort. Needs more Sean Hannity.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM
Heh. Gotta work Geraldo in there somewhere.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM (jc0TO)
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Maybe Tucker is angling for a weekend host gig on Coast To Coast AM.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle
I'd take him over Connie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
No way.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle
I'd take him over Connie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
No way.
Posted by: Noory Beets at July 15, 2025 04:31 PM (/U5Yz)
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15 I never had the slightest concern US troops would be on the ground. Zero.
Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (YwEeS)
Likewise. And Tucker, who knows Trump and boasts about spending time with him, read him completely wrong.
Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (YwEeS)
Likewise. And Tucker, who knows Trump and boasts about spending time with him, read him completely wrong.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 04:31 PM (WHfpM)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:31 PM (jc0TO)
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Any means necessary has 80% support? 😂
Sure, Jan. 80% of parents want to send their son or daughter to a shithole in the desert to be shot at? Cuz that’s what any means necessary means.
Sure, Jan. 80% of parents want to send their son or daughter to a shithole in the desert to be shot at? Cuz that’s what any means necessary means.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:31 PM (ImXfC)
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This whole idea of rebuilding your enemies is absurd.
Posted by: 18-1
Not necessarily.
At the end of WWII, Germany and Japan were pretty much utterly destroyed. We didn't want more malevolent demagogues arising out of the ashes, so we rebuilt those two countries.
It worked then because both the Germans and the Japanese are intelligent, disciplined, and hardworking peoples.
We made the mistake of thinking that could be done in the countries in the Mideast, and other third-world shitholes, whose populations did not possess those qualities that the Germans and the Japanese did.
Posted by: 18-1
Not necessarily.
At the end of WWII, Germany and Japan were pretty much utterly destroyed. We didn't want more malevolent demagogues arising out of the ashes, so we rebuilt those two countries.
It worked then because both the Germans and the Japanese are intelligent, disciplined, and hardworking peoples.
We made the mistake of thinking that could be done in the countries in the Mideast, and other third-world shitholes, whose populations did not possess those qualities that the Germans and the Japanese did.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:31 PM (77rzZ)
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What happened to Tucker Carlson?
He fell down the "Jews invented communism" hole. I'm not entirely sure how, maybe Candace Owens?
Elmo's joined his jihad, so there's that.
He fell down the "Jews invented communism" hole. I'm not entirely sure how, maybe Candace Owens?
Elmo's joined his jihad, so there's that.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:32 PM (2ocoG)
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Iran without nukes and ballistic missiles, and a sanctions regime until they behave is a good win.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:32 PM (g47mK)
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Sure, Jan. 80% of parents want to send their son or daughter to a shithole in the desert to be shot at? Cuz that’s what any means necessary means.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:31 PM
80% are willing to send someone's kid.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:31 PM
80% are willing to send someone's kid.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:32 PM (jc0TO)
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You must use a nuke to prevent someone from using a nuke.
Posted by: Nuke 'Em Already at July 15, 2025 04:32 PM (rfMRc)
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67 15 I never had the slightest concern US troops would be on the ground. Zero.
Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (YwEeS)
Likewise. And Tucker, who knows Trump and boasts about spending time with him, read him completely wrong.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025
Did Tucker ever admit he was wrong and misread the situation?
I never thought boots would be on the ground either and I wouldn't not have been in favor of another war in the ME.
Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2025 04:22 PM (YwEeS)
Likewise. And Tucker, who knows Trump and boasts about spending time with him, read him completely wrong.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025
Did Tucker ever admit he was wrong and misread the situation?
I never thought boots would be on the ground either and I wouldn't not have been in favor of another war in the ME.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:32 PM (hs4ik)
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63 The problems here is most Americans think you can win a war by just bombing the enemy. You can certainly hurt them, even affect their decision-makers, but "winning" is almost impossible.
Winning requires boots on the ground, and we don't have enough boots to do it. Iran if BIG! We would need to triple the size of our Army to even consider it.
Perhaps, but Iran isn't really a threat without nukes. They're an annoyance. We dealt with the threat. That's why we're happy to leave it to the Iranians to change their government.
Winning requires boots on the ground, and we don't have enough boots to do it. Iran if BIG! We would need to triple the size of our Army to even consider it.
Perhaps, but Iran isn't really a threat without nukes. They're an annoyance. We dealt with the threat. That's why we're happy to leave it to the Iranians to change their government.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (Riz8t)
77
Who knew Elmo was so based?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (cn0nj)
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What happened to Tucker's brain anyway? He used to be solidly on the conservative side, at least compared to the rest of the media. Now he seems to take delight in being very much the opposite. At least that's the impression I get from reading here.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (omVj0)
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For those shitting on Tucker, I would still recommend watching the interview he did with Steve Robinson regarding the illegal Chinese marijuana business in Maine, and the apparent corruption of the entire state government.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (MZ+PY)
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Most people are smart enough to know that if a terrorist state gets a nuke, we will have to worry about nuclear suicide bombings.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (N1DT3)
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If he pulled that off he'd be a military genius because hiding the staging of 100K troops and landing them in one night would be difficult to do outside of transporter technology.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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Dja ever see Fantastic Voyage? He's using nanotechnology!
He's going to send them all there on a teaspoon, blow them up to real size, have them leash hell with a new laser weapon, re-shrink them, and bring them back home in a salt shaker.
Movie plot. You may steal it.
If he pulled that off he'd be a military genius because hiding the staging of 100K troops and landing them in one night would be difficult to do outside of transporter technology.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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Dja ever see Fantastic Voyage? He's using nanotechnology!
He's going to send them all there on a teaspoon, blow them up to real size, have them leash hell with a new laser weapon, re-shrink them, and bring them back home in a salt shaker.
Movie plot. You may steal it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (HL/Ld)
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For the last 40 years, Iran has been involved in every major terrorist action agains the West. And that includes 9/11. They need to slow down brah !
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (g47mK)
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But but Epstein files blah blah blah
Posted by: kallisto at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (/wM0G)
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Polls are for strippers.
Dolla, dolla bill, y'all.
Tucker is crazy; don't know what happened to him.
From racing all night down to Mar a Lago to implore Trump take Covid serious, you guys.
To a spending Election Night last year at Mar a Lago, interviewing a lot of the top Trump team.
To this, sitting next to Candace Owens churning out crackpot kookiness.
Dolla, dolla bill, y'all.
Tucker is crazy; don't know what happened to him.
From racing all night down to Mar a Lago to implore Trump take Covid serious, you guys.
To a spending Election Night last year at Mar a Lago, interviewing a lot of the top Trump team.
To this, sitting next to Candace Owens churning out crackpot kookiness.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (Jw2IK)
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At the end of WWII, Germany and Japan were pretty much utterly destroyed.
Morganthau argued for keeping them neutered.
Morganthau argued for keeping them neutered.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (pb1DT)
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79 For those shitting on Tucker, I would still recommend watching the interview he did with Steve Robinson regarding the illegal Chinese marijuana business in Maine, and the apparent corruption of the entire state government.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (MZ+PY)
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Can we also pull up the video where he bragged about steaming over to Mar a Lago in the middle of the night to tell Trump to take covid more seriously?
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (MZ+PY)
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Can we also pull up the video where he bragged about steaming over to Mar a Lago in the middle of the night to tell Trump to take covid more seriously?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm googling around here, and I can't find any recent polls on this subject, but as of a month ago, somewhere between 15%-45% depending on the day and the poll supported bombing Iran.
I have a hard time believing people went from 85% against bombing Iran to 80% using "any means necessary" to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, which of course, would START with bombing Iran.
But maybe so.
I have a hard time believing people went from 85% against bombing Iran to 80% using "any means necessary" to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, which of course, would START with bombing Iran.
But maybe so.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (uCjyK)
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It worked then because both the Germans and the Japanese are intelligent, disciplined, and hardworking peoples.
We made the mistake of thinking that could be done in the countries in the Mideast, and other third-world shitholes, whose populations did not possess those qualities that the Germans and the Japanese did.
Yup. And modern Western society doesn't let you say that the best outcome for third world shitholes generally is some kind of king or dictator. Especially Islamic third world shitholes.
I do think Iran could possibly be fixed because there's a lot of people still alive who remember pre-1979, but I'm not holding my breath either.
We made the mistake of thinking that could be done in the countries in the Mideast, and other third-world shitholes, whose populations did not possess those qualities that the Germans and the Japanese did.
Yup. And modern Western society doesn't let you say that the best outcome for third world shitholes generally is some kind of king or dictator. Especially Islamic third world shitholes.
I do think Iran could possibly be fixed because there's a lot of people still alive who remember pre-1979, but I'm not holding my breath either.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (2ocoG)
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Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM (W/lyH)
I don't necessarily disagree and you're more the expert but I just always go back to the fact that Iran and Iraq fought to a standstill over 8 years.
I don't necessarily disagree and you're more the expert but I just always go back to the fact that Iran and Iraq fought to a standstill over 8 years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (VofaG)
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Tucker is emotionally incontinent. Someone said he like a dry drunk. Pretty accurate. He is a shock jock for politics. Wound up podcasting just like Howard Stern.
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (luH9j)
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For those shitting on Tucker, I would still recommend watching the interview he did with Steve Robinson regarding the illegal Chinese marijuana business in Maine, and the apparent corruption of the entire state government.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
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Out of curiosity, how recent is it? Is Tucker some sort of erratic half-fool, half-genius?
For those shitting on Tucker, I would still recommend watching the interview he did with Steve Robinson regarding the illegal Chinese marijuana business in Maine, and the apparent corruption of the entire state government.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
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Out of curiosity, how recent is it? Is Tucker some sort of erratic half-fool, half-genius?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (HL/Ld)
92
I looked at the recent photo of Tucker in the UK DM when he was wailing recently about President Trump.
His face looks like he is either bloated from steroids or weeping. He became "emotional" the headline said.
He's become pompous and knows better than the rest.
I dislike pompous. I guess, I should spell it pompuss.
His face looks like he is either bloated from steroids or weeping. He became "emotional" the headline said.
He's become pompous and knows better than the rest.
I dislike pompous. I guess, I should spell it pompuss.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (6PCLE)
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I think Tucker needs a Snickers bar.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (Q4IgG)
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He needs to move to Canada where he will be more in tune with public opinion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (Q4IgG)
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He needs to move to Canada where he will be more in tune with public opinion.
Posted by: Decaf at July 15, 2025 04:35 PM (unUNN)
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60 Who even watches Tucker anymore?
I quit. He had some good guests. But something about him always nagged at me. Superficially, maybe it was the stupid laugh. Also, something thickly, inauthentically self-deprecating about him.
I quit. He had some good guests. But something about him always nagged at me. Superficially, maybe it was the stupid laugh. Also, something thickly, inauthentically self-deprecating about him.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 04:35 PM (WHfpM)
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Why? Well, why did they maim Rushdie 40 years after he left the country ? Because they are evil assholes.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)
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He fell down the "Jews invented communism" hole.
I know someone personally that has headed down that road. Smart super anti-communist boogaloo, now sliding into the joo-hate. It is ... baffling.
I know someone personally that has headed down that road. Smart super anti-communist boogaloo, now sliding into the joo-hate. It is ... baffling.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:35 PM (jc0TO)
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An anonymous source said that Trump is landing 100K troops into Tehran tonight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)
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You mean that guy who knows a guy whose brother works in the WH kitchen?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)
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You mean that guy who knows a guy whose brother works in the WH kitchen?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (u73oe)
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82 For the last 40 years, Iran has been involved in every major terrorist action agains the West. And that includes 9/11. They need to slow down brah !
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (g47mK)
Wow, that's some track record.
So did Iran work together with Iraq to use Saudi citizens in Afghanistan (trained and funded by American tax dollars to fight the USSR, let's not forget) to pull off 9/11, or...?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:33 PM (g47mK)
Wow, that's some track record.
So did Iran work together with Iraq to use Saudi citizens in Afghanistan (trained and funded by American tax dollars to fight the USSR, let's not forget) to pull off 9/11, or...?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (uCjyK)
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Tucker doesn't wear socks. Let's hang him.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (/U5Yz)
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Being on the wrong side of an 80-20 issue isn't a bug for the left it's a future. That's why crazies like Momdani in NYC and Fateh in Minneapolis get nominated. That's why idiots like the squad get elected. For those Dems who aren't far left it puts them between a rock (conservatives etc) and a hard place (the crazy left). Good times
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (volu5)
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34 Tucker is a UFO poser. Ancient Aliens on The History Channel is the straight dope.
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Fist Bump.
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Fist Bump.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (W3T6M)
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87 I'm googling around here, and I can't find any recent polls on this subject, but as of a month ago, somewhere between 15%-45% depending on the day and the poll supported bombing Iran.
I have a hard time believing people went from 85% against bombing Iran to 80% using "any means necessary" to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, which of course, would START with bombing Iran.
But maybe so.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (uCjyK)
I have no idea what polls say or if they are credible (probably not). But if I thought the proposition really was between nuclear Iran and conventional war, I'd prefer conventional war. I don't think those are the options though, so I'm not really concerned about this.
I have a hard time believing people went from 85% against bombing Iran to 80% using "any means necessary" to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, which of course, would START with bombing Iran.
But maybe so.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (uCjyK)
I have no idea what polls say or if they are credible (probably not). But if I thought the proposition really was between nuclear Iran and conventional war, I'd prefer conventional war. I don't think those are the options though, so I'm not really concerned about this.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (CzMNg)
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Epstein caught a UFO back to his home planet.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:28 PM (Riz8t)
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No. All evidence points to Epstein committed suicide in his cell.
*flashes bright light*
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 04:28 PM (Riz8t)
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No. All evidence points to Epstein committed suicide in his cell.
*flashes bright light*
Posted by: Department of Justice, Division 6 at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (7fElN)
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At the risk of turning this into a you-know-who-who-didn't-hang-himself thread, what is Tucker's take on the Epstein stuff?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (77rzZ)
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97 You mean that guy who knows a guy whose brother works in the WH kitchen?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (u73oe)
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No, the guy whose father's brother's uncle's former roommate went to school with Trump's second cousin and has an in with the secretary to the undersecretary of Housing and Urban Affairs.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (u73oe)
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No, the guy whose father's brother's uncle's former roommate went to school with Trump's second cousin and has an in with the secretary to the undersecretary of Housing and Urban Affairs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (GBKbO)
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I like Tucker a lot. My one mild criticism is he seems too anxious to agree with his guests.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (2ap+5)
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8 Yep, if Trump cured cancer, the Dems would not approve.
Posted by: Emmie at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (rF2iL)
A good reminder to check out Ace's fantastic old twitter rant about Meggie McCain whining how if she cured cancer people would still be focused on her weight.
Posted by: Emmie at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (rF2iL)
A good reminder to check out Ace's fantastic old twitter rant about Meggie McCain whining how if she cured cancer people would still be focused on her weight.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (8hxDK)
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You gotta admit the Tic-Tac UFO in the Pacific is a crazy one, though.
Pilots reporting a 20 foot pill doing turns at speeds that would turn any of us into jelly on the windshield, with no visible wings or propulsion.
I believe those pilots and sailors saw what they testified to seeing.
Is it little green aliens? I have no clue.
But somebody, somewhere has some scary tech and nobody knows who?
I hope it's us and we've cracked the code on anti-gravity, but that'd be a major (highly unlikely) breakthrough due to the amount of power it would consume to somehow produce a force-field type bubble around a craft that distorts gravity.
And back on topic:
Tucker has gotten really off the reservation lately.
It's like he's running for office or something with that speech at CPAC.
He's at the Glenn Beck circa 2016 stage of self-destruction.
Pilots reporting a 20 foot pill doing turns at speeds that would turn any of us into jelly on the windshield, with no visible wings or propulsion.
I believe those pilots and sailors saw what they testified to seeing.
Is it little green aliens? I have no clue.
But somebody, somewhere has some scary tech and nobody knows who?
I hope it's us and we've cracked the code on anti-gravity, but that'd be a major (highly unlikely) breakthrough due to the amount of power it would consume to somehow produce a force-field type bubble around a craft that distorts gravity.
And back on topic:
Tucker has gotten really off the reservation lately.
It's like he's running for office or something with that speech at CPAC.
He's at the Glenn Beck circa 2016 stage of self-destruction.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:38 PM (6ydKt)
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There are a lot of Ed's running around the commentosphere.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 15, 2025 04:38 PM (zZu0s)
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TuCa knows what's on Oak Island.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:38 PM (77rzZ)
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A fat chick cured csncer?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:38 PM (cn0nj)
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I quit. He had some good guests. But something about him always nagged at me. Superficially, maybe it was the stupid laugh. Also, something thickly, inauthentically self-deprecating about him.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 04:35 PM (WHfpM)
I don't understand how he was ever on CNN, MSNC, or Fox News.
Well, I do. His dad was in the CIA and he was a from a well connected family and was a nepo baby.
But I don't understand how people watched him. He is so unbelievably grating and has this uncanny valley thing about him with the fake laugh and snide side look.
I watched his Putin interview and recently his George Santos interview. His whole TV character seems to have changed, but he still has that Gavin Newsome-esque "this guy might be an alien pretending to be human" thing about his personality.
I don't get it. But then again, I was never his target audience.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 04:35 PM (WHfpM)
I don't understand how he was ever on CNN, MSNC, or Fox News.
Well, I do. His dad was in the CIA and he was a from a well connected family and was a nepo baby.
But I don't understand how people watched him. He is so unbelievably grating and has this uncanny valley thing about him with the fake laugh and snide side look.
I watched his Putin interview and recently his George Santos interview. His whole TV character seems to have changed, but he still has that Gavin Newsome-esque "this guy might be an alien pretending to be human" thing about his personality.
I don't get it. But then again, I was never his target audience.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:38 PM (uCjyK)
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106 I like Tucker a lot. My one mild criticism is he seems too anxious to agree with his guests.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (2ap+5)
Does he also laugh hysterically at all of their jokes and steamroll himself into all their stories and bits? And do you think that's not good? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (2ap+5)
Does he also laugh hysterically at all of their jokes and steamroll himself into all their stories and bits? And do you think that's not good? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: J Fallon at July 15, 2025 04:39 PM (8hxDK)
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I know someone personally that has headed down that road. Smart super anti-communist boogaloo, now sliding into the joo-hate. It is ... baffling.
My position is that if communism was a Jewish thing it would actually work. It definitely doesn't, so Q.E.D.
My position is that if communism was a Jewish thing it would actually work. It definitely doesn't, so Q.E.D.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:39 PM (2ocoG)
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No, the guy whose father's brother's uncle's former roommate went to school with Trump's second cousin and has an in with the secretary to the undersecretary of Housing and Urban Affairs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM
I laugh but if you recall, Pickled Stink's hairdresser's cousin's rabbi was right about the Pope.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM
I laugh but if you recall, Pickled Stink's hairdresser's cousin's rabbi was right about the Pope.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:39 PM (jc0TO)
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9 An anonymous source said that Trump is landing 100K troops into Tehran tonight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Fanta Menace is going to start World War III, declare martial law and cancel elections because he's a puppet of Netanyahu, Putin and Steve Bannon!!!!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Fanta Menace is going to start World War III, declare martial law and cancel elections because he's a puppet of Netanyahu, Putin and Steve Bannon!!!!!!
Posted by: Moderate BlueSky Post at July 15, 2025 04:39 PM (JCZqz)
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If Trump cured cancer the Dems would complain that he's destroying all the jobs at St Judes
Posted by: the dandy at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (8v5SH)
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116 Fanta Menace is going to start World War III, declare martial law and cancel elections because he's a puppet of Netanyahu, Putin and Steve Bannon!!!!!!
Posted by: Moderate BlueSky Post at July 15, 2025 04:39 PM (JCZqz)
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Is it really a moderate post if it's not advocating for murder and doesn't include links to kiddie pron?
Posted by: Moderate BlueSky Post at July 15, 2025 04:39 PM (JCZqz)
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Is it really a moderate post if it's not advocating for murder and doesn't include links to kiddie pron?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)
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99 Tucker doesn't wear socks. Let's hang him.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (/U5Yz)
He WHAT?!
Okay, now I'm convinced he's a lizard person.
Who doesn't wear socks?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (/U5Yz)
He WHAT?!
Okay, now I'm convinced he's a lizard person.
Who doesn't wear socks?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (uCjyK)
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Yup. And modern Western society doesn't let you say that the best outcome for third world shitholes generally is some kind of king or dictator. Especially Islamic third world shitholes.
I do think Iran could possibly be fixed because there's a lot of people still alive who remember pre-1979, but I'm not holding my breath either.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (2ocoG)
Colonizing would be a LOT better.
But the West doesn't have the moral strength to do that, so dictator or king is the next-best option.
I do think Iran could possibly be fixed because there's a lot of people still alive who remember pre-1979, but I'm not holding my breath either.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (2ocoG)
Colonizing would be a LOT better.
But the West doesn't have the moral strength to do that, so dictator or king is the next-best option.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (N1DT3)
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Tucker started off bad with COVID but I'll give him credit for eventually becoming anti-vax advocate and thus a target,
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (VofaG)
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107 8 Yep, if Trump cured cancer, the Dems would not approve.
Posted by: Emmie at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (rF2iL)
A good reminder to check out Ace's fantastic old twitter rant about Meggie McCain whining how if she cured cancer people would still be focused on her weight.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (8hxDK)
News Headline: "Trump Puts All Cancer Researchers Out of Jobs."
Posted by: Emmie at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (rF2iL)
A good reminder to check out Ace's fantastic old twitter rant about Meggie McCain whining how if she cured cancer people would still be focused on her weight.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at July 15, 2025 04:37 PM (8hxDK)
News Headline: "Trump Puts All Cancer Researchers Out of Jobs."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (ynpvh)
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106 I like Tucker a lot. My one mild criticism is he seems too anxious to agree with his guests.
Posted by: Oglebay
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I think his biggest problem is that he is not very smart. Maybe even gullible. It leads him in very bad directions because he just doesn't have the brain power to resist.
Posted by: Oglebay
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I think his biggest problem is that he is not very smart. Maybe even gullible. It leads him in very bad directions because he just doesn't have the brain power to resist.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (S6/Nv)
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119 99 Tucker doesn't wear socks. Let's hang him.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (/U5Yz)
He WHAT?!
Okay, now I'm convinced he's a lizard person.
Who doesn't wear socks?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (uCjyK)
Women who wear pantyhose and/or stockings?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (/U5Yz)
He WHAT?!
Okay, now I'm convinced he's a lizard person.
Who doesn't wear socks?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (uCjyK)
Women who wear pantyhose and/or stockings?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:41 PM (ynpvh)
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So did Iran work together with Iraq to use Saudi citizens in Afghanistan (trained and funded by American tax dollars to fight the USSR, let's not forget) to pull off 9/11, or...?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (uCjyK)
I think an Ayatollah may have shot JFK.
So did Iran work together with Iraq to use Saudi citizens in Afghanistan (trained and funded by American tax dollars to fight the USSR, let's not forget) to pull off 9/11, or...?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (uCjyK)
I think an Ayatollah may have shot JFK.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:41 PM (ImXfC)
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So is Tucker a true UFO or UAP believer? I don't watch him.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (kTd/k)
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123 106 I like Tucker a lot. My one mild criticism is he seems too anxious to agree with his guests.
Posted by: Oglebay
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I think his biggest problem is that he is not very smart. Maybe even gullible. It leads him in very bad directions because he just doesn't have the brain power to resist.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (S6/Nv)
Are you saying his autobiography should be "Gullible's Travels"?
Posted by: Oglebay
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I think his biggest problem is that he is not very smart. Maybe even gullible. It leads him in very bad directions because he just doesn't have the brain power to resist.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (S6/Nv)
Are you saying his autobiography should be "Gullible's Travels"?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (ynpvh)
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Oldest marathoner in the world , who ran marathons into his eighties, has been killed at the age of 114. Man last name of Singh in India was hit by a car.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (volu5)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)
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72 Iran without nukes and ballistic missiles, and a sanctions regime until they behave is a good win.
Posted by: runner
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Iran has essentially been at war with the US since the Iranian Revolution. US never overtly dealt with them because of fears of Iranian terror attacks, etc. which in hindsight appear overblown.
So, removing the means that the mullahs running Iran used to blackmail the rest of the World is a good thing and specifically, the mullahs by being lying double crossing assholes for decades have themselves only to blame for their comeuppance.
Iran was by any measures a 'just' war and people need to forget that shit about Mossadegh. He was a commie and the mullahs themselves hated him and the MEK as much as they hate us. Khomeini make it clear decades ago that he considered communism and socialists as godless heathens.
Posted by: runner
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Iran has essentially been at war with the US since the Iranian Revolution. US never overtly dealt with them because of fears of Iranian terror attacks, etc. which in hindsight appear overblown.
So, removing the means that the mullahs running Iran used to blackmail the rest of the World is a good thing and specifically, the mullahs by being lying double crossing assholes for decades have themselves only to blame for their comeuppance.
Iran was by any measures a 'just' war and people need to forget that shit about Mossadegh. He was a commie and the mullahs themselves hated him and the MEK as much as they hate us. Khomeini make it clear decades ago that he considered communism and socialists as godless heathens.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
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128 Oldest marathoner in the world , who ran marathons into his eighties, has been killed at the age of 114. Man last name of Singh in India was hit by a car.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (volu5)
I told you running was dangerous...
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (volu5)
I told you running was dangerous...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ynpvh)
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I watched his Putin interview and recently his George Santos interview. His whole TV character seems to have changed, but he still has that Gavin Newsome-esque "this guy might be an alien pretending to be human" thing about his personality.
I don't get it. But then again, I was never his target audience.
His interview with Jair Bolsonaro a few months before USAID overthrew Bolsonaro and got Fox to shitcan Tucker was really good.
I don't get it. But then again, I was never his target audience.
His interview with Jair Bolsonaro a few months before USAID overthrew Bolsonaro and got Fox to shitcan Tucker was really good.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (2ocoG)
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Fanta Menace....
Posted by: Moderate BlueSky Post at July 15, 2025 04:39 PM (JCZqz)
I thought you misspelled something there for about 3 seconds before I laughed out loud.
Posted by: Moderate BlueSky Post at July 15, 2025 04:39 PM (JCZqz)
I thought you misspelled something there for about 3 seconds before I laughed out loud.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (N1DT3)
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129 My autobiography would be:
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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A published author that cannot read. Impressive.
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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A published author that cannot read. Impressive.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
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I believe those pilots and sailors saw what they testified to seeing.
Is it little green aliens? I have no clue.
But somebody, somewhere has some scary tech and nobody knows who?
I hope it's us and we've cracked the code on anti-gravity, but that'd be a major (highly unlikely) breakthrough due to the amount of power it would consume to somehow produce a force-field type bubble around a craft that distorts gravity.
I saw clips of these guys testifying in front of Congress and the one Navy pilot seems credible and there are three choices. It's either us, our enemies or it's aliens. It was like I realized the government admitted there's aliens and no one paid attention.
I believe those pilots and sailors saw what they testified to seeing.
Is it little green aliens? I have no clue.
But somebody, somewhere has some scary tech and nobody knows who?
I hope it's us and we've cracked the code on anti-gravity, but that'd be a major (highly unlikely) breakthrough due to the amount of power it would consume to somehow produce a force-field type bubble around a craft that distorts gravity.
I saw clips of these guys testifying in front of Congress and the one Navy pilot seems credible and there are three choices. It's either us, our enemies or it's aliens. It was like I realized the government admitted there's aliens and no one paid attention.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (hs4ik)
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129 My autobiography would be:
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)
Mine would be, "Okay, What the F*** Did I Do Now?"
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)
Mine would be, "Okay, What the F*** Did I Do Now?"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (ynpvh)
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Have a Fanta.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (cn0nj)
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (VofaG)
139
With numbers that high for "by any means necessary," he shoulda nuked Fordo. Then the enemedia wouldn't be whining about setting back the program "only a few months," and we wouldn't have to worry about them ever again. #NextTime
Posted by: Alexander Scipio at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (029Oi)
140
128 Oldest marathoner in the world , who ran marathons into his eighties, has been killed at the age of 114. Man last name of Singh in India was hit by a car.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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I told him all that exercise was bad for him!
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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I told him all that exercise was bad for him!
Posted by: Mrs. Singh at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (S6/Nv)
141
134 129 My autobiography would be:
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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A published author that cannot read. Impressive.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
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Self published.
Must less impressive.
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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A published author that cannot read. Impressive.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
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Self published.
Must less impressive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (GBKbO)
142
My position is that if communism was a Jewish thing it would actually work.
Posted by: Ian S.
Yep. Totally agree.
Posted by: Ian S.
Yep. Totally agree.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (77rzZ)
143
127 123 106 I like Tucker a lot. My one mild criticism is he seems too anxious to agree with his guests.
Posted by: Oglebay
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I think his biggest problem is that he is not very smart. Maybe even gullible. It leads him in very bad directions because he just doesn't have the brain power to resist.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (S6/Nv)
Are you saying his autobiography should be "Gullible's Travels"?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Golf clap Jim. Hope you are well.
Posted by: Oglebay
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I think his biggest problem is that he is not very smart. Maybe even gullible. It leads him in very bad directions because he just doesn't have the brain power to resist.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (S6/Nv)
Are you saying his autobiography should be "Gullible's Travels"?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Golf clap Jim. Hope you are well.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (ctrM5)
144
134 129 My autobiography would be:
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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A published author that cannot read. Impressive.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
So it's not pronounced "corpse"?
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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A published author that cannot read. Impressive.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
So it's not pronounced "corpse"?
Posted by: Barky O at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM (ynpvh)
145
Yup. And modern Western society doesn't let you say that the best outcome for third world shitholes generally is some kind of king or dictator. Especially Islamic third world shitholes.
I do think Iran could possibly be fixed because there's a lot of people still alive who remember pre-1979, but I'm not holding my breath either.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (2ocoG)
Best outcome for whom?
We have had an absolutely awful track record of regime change and installing dictators, almost every single one of which has bit us in the ass one way or another. Not to mention the people living there probably weren't too appreciative.
I am trying to come up with a counter example, but having a hard time with it. Maybe Batista. But, again, we saw how that worked out long term.
And we (and the Brits) have installed dictators in Iran. Twice. Which led to where we are today.
I do think Iran could possibly be fixed because there's a lot of people still alive who remember pre-1979, but I'm not holding my breath either.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (2ocoG)
Best outcome for whom?
We have had an absolutely awful track record of regime change and installing dictators, almost every single one of which has bit us in the ass one way or another. Not to mention the people living there probably weren't too appreciative.
I am trying to come up with a counter example, but having a hard time with it. Maybe Batista. But, again, we saw how that worked out long term.
And we (and the Brits) have installed dictators in Iran. Twice. Which led to where we are today.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM (uCjyK)
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Oldest marathoner in the world , who ran marathons into his eighties, has been killed at the age of 114. Man last name of Singh in India was hit by a car.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (volu5)
I told you running was dangerous...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Zombie Jim Fixx
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (volu5)
I told you running was dangerous...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Zombie Jim Fixx
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM (4IClK)
147
With numbers that high for "by any means necessary," he shoulda nuked Fordo. Then the enemedia wouldn't be whining about setting back the program "only a few months," and we wouldn't have to worry about them ever again.
You underestimate the media-Bluesky-industrial complex. Even if he vaporized all of Iran with an antimatter bomb they'd be crowing that he failed.
You underestimate the media-Bluesky-industrial complex. Even if he vaporized all of Iran with an antimatter bomb they'd be crowing that he failed.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM (2ocoG)
148
I saw clips of these guys testifying in front of Congress and the one Navy pilot seems credible and there are three choices. It's either us, our enemies or it's aliens. It was like I realized the government admitted there's aliens and no one paid attention.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (hs4ik)
4 options, but too many people would rather believe in aliens than supernatural causes.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (hs4ik)
4 options, but too many people would rather believe in aliens than supernatural causes.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM (N1DT3)
149
My autobiography would be:
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM
James Madison: A Life
As Told To Aaron Burr
"This is Obviously a Fraud. I can't even Read. The story of TJM."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM
James Madison: A Life
As Told To Aaron Burr
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM (jc0TO)
150
Ok, the alien stuff is simple - its a fix of people seeing random terrestrial stuff in the sky...and American military experiments, especially of late around drones
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 04:46 PM (t0Rmr)
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142 My position is that if communism was a Jewish thing it would actually work.
Posted by: Ian S.
Yep. Totally agree.
Posted by: Bulg
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Um no. See economic histories of Kibbutzim. Israel made a go at socialism after the founding and it did about as well as socialism in other states--not very well economically.
Posted by: Ian S.
Yep. Totally agree.
Posted by: Bulg
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Um no. See economic histories of Kibbutzim. Israel made a go at socialism after the founding and it did about as well as socialism in other states--not very well economically.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:46 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)
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99 Tucker doesn't wear socks. Let's hang him.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (/U5Yz)
He WHAT?!
Okay, now I'm convinced he's a lizard person.
Who doesn't wear socks?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Hah. Reminded of when older brother didn't wear socks in High School. They were going suspend him for violating dress code, but then he showed them his socks were hanging out of back pockets of his pants. Good times.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:36 PM (/U5Yz)
He WHAT?!
Okay, now I'm convinced he's a lizard person.
Who doesn't wear socks?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Hah. Reminded of when older brother didn't wear socks in High School. They were going suspend him for violating dress code, but then he showed them his socks were hanging out of back pockets of his pants. Good times.
Posted by: olddog in mo at July 15, 2025 04:46 PM (hoCmQ)
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This, without a doubt, is one of the best missions to have happened in my lifetime. President Trump with the "two weeks" bombers to Guam, etc. Our guys flew a virtually flawless mission, without any loss of life, and, most likely, limited collateral damage on the other side.
But, naturally, giving our men and women credit for such a mission which probably had fairly high probability of something going disastrously wrong just cannot be done by the left.
But, naturally, giving our men and women credit for such a mission which probably had fairly high probability of something going disastrously wrong just cannot be done by the left.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 04:46 PM (tT6L1)
155
I think an Ayatollah may have shot JFK.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:41 PM (ImXfC)
ha. Yes, seems that way.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:41 PM (ImXfC)
ha. Yes, seems that way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:47 PM (uCjyK)
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128 Oldest marathoner in the world , who ran marathons into his eighties, has been killed at the age of 114. Man last name of Singh in India was hit by a car.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (volu5)
Dude was a runner and I just couldn't grab him. It was embarrassing, I "catch up to everyone" after all, right? I was pissed and well, Death owed me a favor.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (volu5)
Dude was a runner and I just couldn't grab him. It was embarrassing, I "catch up to everyone" after all, right? I was pissed and well, Death owed me a favor.
Posted by: Father Time at July 15, 2025 04:47 PM (8hxDK)
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143
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Golf clap Jim. Hope you are well.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (ctrM5)
Doing okay. I brown-bag every day...which is to say, my colostomy bag...
...
Golf clap Jim. Hope you are well.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (ctrM5)
Doing okay. I brown-bag every day...which is to say, my colostomy bag...
Posted by: Barky O at July 15, 2025 04:47 PM (ynpvh)
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A published author that cannot read. Impressive.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
——————-
He employs a thousand monkeys with typewriters. Sometimes it works.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
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He employs a thousand monkeys with typewriters. Sometimes it works.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 04:47 PM (u73oe)
159
I'm a follower of the Fermi Paradox.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:47 PM (VofaG)
160
Of the defense industry were non profit Iran wouldn’t be a threat. Neither would most “enemies” of the US.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:47 PM (ImXfC)
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off sock..
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:47 PM (ynpvh)
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Best outcome for whom?
We have had an absolutely awful track record of regime change and installing dictators, almost every single one of which has bit us in the ass one way or another. Not to mention the people living there probably weren't too appreciative.
Oh, I am 100% not suggesting any dictator or monarch we install would work out. Just that the places in the ME that cause the least trouble generally have that structure. Even Gaddafi fell into line until Hillary decided to kill him for funsies.
We have had an absolutely awful track record of regime change and installing dictators, almost every single one of which has bit us in the ass one way or another. Not to mention the people living there probably weren't too appreciative.
Oh, I am 100% not suggesting any dictator or monarch we install would work out. Just that the places in the ME that cause the least trouble generally have that structure. Even Gaddafi fell into line until Hillary decided to kill him for funsies.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (2ocoG)
163
I saw clips of these guys testifying in front of Congress and the one Navy pilot seems credible and there are three choices. It's either us, our enemies or it's aliens. It was like I realized the government admitted there's aliens and no one paid attention.
Honestly ? There are worse rationales for how batshit everything has become than "the aliens contacted the establishment and the establishment doesn't know what to do next".
Honestly ? There are worse rationales for how batshit everything has become than "the aliens contacted the establishment and the establishment doesn't know what to do next".
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (pb1DT)
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152 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:43 PM (ynpvh)
Hey, Man. How're you doing?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)
I be doin'. Should get my ass back to working again.
Hey, Man. How're you doing?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)
I be doin'. Should get my ass back to working again.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (ynpvh)
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148 I saw clips of these guys testifying in front of Congress and the one Navy pilot seems credible and there are three choices. It's either us, our enemies or it's aliens. It was like I realized the government admitted there's aliens and no one paid attention.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (hs4ik)
4 options, but too many people would rather believe in aliens than supernatural causes.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM
Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (hs4ik)
4 options, but too many people would rather believe in aliens than supernatural causes.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM
Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
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I don't necessarily disagree and you're more the expert but I just always go back to the fact that Iran and Iraq fought to a standstill over 8 years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (VofaG)
Exactly. Instead, thousands of missiles fired at each other, but little military significance to them, except as a terror weapon. Neither side had the ground troops to invade and win. They tried that early on but between flooding the battlefields and chemicals, neither could gain the advantage. So it ground to a halt.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (VofaG)
Exactly. Instead, thousands of missiles fired at each other, but little military significance to them, except as a terror weapon. Neither side had the ground troops to invade and win. They tried that early on but between flooding the battlefields and chemicals, neither could gain the advantage. So it ground to a halt.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2025 04:49 PM (W/lyH)
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Oh, and for those who missed it, Tucker did a speech at a Turning Point USA event a few days ago (I said CPAC earlier, oops), claiming Epstein worked for Mossad doing blackmail operations and everyone in D.C. believes that.
“Now, no one’s allowed to say that foreign government is Israel, because we’ve been somehow cowed into thinking that that’s naughty,”
“There is nothing wrong with saying that, there’s nothing hateful about saying that, there’s nothing antisemitic about saying that — there’s nothing even anti-Israel about saying that!”
Well, if he has evidence, show us, Tucker.
As of now you've got "everyone believes it" and I'd just like to see some actual proof.
“Now, no one’s allowed to say that foreign government is Israel, because we’ve been somehow cowed into thinking that that’s naughty,”
“There is nothing wrong with saying that, there’s nothing hateful about saying that, there’s nothing antisemitic about saying that — there’s nothing even anti-Israel about saying that!”
Well, if he has evidence, show us, Tucker.
As of now you've got "everyone believes it" and I'd just like to see some actual proof.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:49 PM (6ydKt)
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We have had an absolutely awful track record of regime change and installing dictators, almost every single one of which has bit us in the ass one way or another. Not to mention the people living there probably weren't too appreciative.
Counterfactuals are hard.
Counterfactuals are hard.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:49 PM (jc0TO)
169
Um no. See economic histories of Kibbutzim. Israel made a go at socialism after the founding and it did about as well as socialism in other states--not very well economically.
Posted by: whig
Sure, individual Jews and groups of Jews have tried to practice communism/socialism, and have naturally failed at it, but the genesis of the ideology is not to be found in Judaism or Jews generally.
At leat, I think that's what Ian S. was saying.
Posted by: whig
Sure, individual Jews and groups of Jews have tried to practice communism/socialism, and have naturally failed at it, but the genesis of the ideology is not to be found in Judaism or Jews generally.
At leat, I think that's what Ian S. was saying.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:49 PM (77rzZ)
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More on that Iran bombing thought above in #39.
If Trump did it partially because of intel that they were behind the assassination attempt, it would explain a lot.
They didn't really retaliate because they understood they had it coming and this was a small payback considering what they had done. It would also explain how all the talk about the Iran situation seems to have an extra layer of obfuscation and diffusion. It feels like there is a lot going on the the public is not told - more than usual.
If Trump did it partially because of intel that they were behind the assassination attempt, it would explain a lot.
They didn't really retaliate because they understood they had it coming and this was a small payback considering what they had done. It would also explain how all the talk about the Iran situation seems to have an extra layer of obfuscation and diffusion. It feels like there is a lot going on the the public is not told - more than usual.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:49 PM (S6/Nv)
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Um no. See economic histories of Kibbutzim. Israel made a go at socialism after the founding and it did about as well as socialism in other states--not very well economically.
Right, they tried to make a go at it and it failed like everywhere else. I'm saying if it was something they created originally like Candace Owens claims it would actually work.
Right, they tried to make a go at it and it failed like everywhere else. I'm saying if it was something they created originally like Candace Owens claims it would actually work.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:49 PM (2ocoG)
172
Tucker seems like a member of the high social caste that has all the attendant rules written into his DNA. But his background is complicated. His mom took off forever when he was 6 years old. He's an interesting cat.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (2ap+5)
173
How many telescopes are pointed at the sky 24 /7?
Not one piece of evidence of extraterrestrials .
Not one piece of evidence of extraterrestrials .
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (VofaG)
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Even Gaddafi fell into line until Hillary decided to kill him for funsies.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (2ocoG)
I still get angry about that.
Yes, he was an evil man. But HE LISTENED WHEN WE THREATENED.
And then we killed him. Proving to every other dictator that it doesn't matter if you do what the US wants, they'll betray you anyway. So get every bit of power/leverage to protect yourself that you can.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (2ocoG)
I still get angry about that.
Yes, he was an evil man. But HE LISTENED WHEN WE THREATENED.
And then we killed him. Proving to every other dictator that it doesn't matter if you do what the US wants, they'll betray you anyway. So get every bit of power/leverage to protect yourself that you can.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (N1DT3)
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“There is nothing wrong with saying that, there’s nothing hateful about saying that, there’s nothing antisemitic about saying that — there’s nothing even anti-Israel about saying that!”
Don't try too hard to cover your ass and dissemble your hatred for Israel.
Don't try too hard to cover your ass and dissemble your hatred for Israel.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (WHfpM)
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165 148 I saw clips of these guys testifying in front of Congress and the one Navy pilot seems credible and there are three choices. It's either us, our enemies or it's aliens. It was like I realized the government admitted there's aliens and no one paid attention.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (hs4ik)
4 options, but too many people would rather believe in aliens than supernatural causes.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM
Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
The power of AND...
Our Gov't, controlled by our enemies, using alien supernatural forces...
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:44 PM (hs4ik)
4 options, but too many people would rather believe in aliens than supernatural causes.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:45 PM
Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
The power of AND...
Our Gov't, controlled by our enemies, using alien supernatural forces...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (ynpvh)
177
Well, if he has evidence, show us, Tucker.
As of now you've got "everyone believes it" and I'd just like to see some actual proof.
==
huh, I wonder if Tucker can handle another billion dollar law suit, this time without FOx' insurance
As of now you've got "everyone believes it" and I'd just like to see some actual proof.
==
huh, I wonder if Tucker can handle another billion dollar law suit, this time without FOx' insurance
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (g47mK)
178
I be doin'. Should get my ass back to working again.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Don't say that around Pete Buttigieg. Jus' sayin'.
Glad to hear that you're hanging in there.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Don't say that around Pete Buttigieg. Jus' sayin'.
Glad to hear that you're hanging in there.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:51 PM (77rzZ)
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Oh, I am 100% not suggesting any dictator or monarch we install would work out. Just that the places in the ME that cause the least trouble generally have that structure. Even Gaddafi fell into line until Hillary decided to kill him for funsies.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (2ocoG)
Yes, well, we should let them figure that out for themselves.
I agree, their cultures tends to be structured for more of a strong man dictator than, say, Western European cultures.
If the Brits and French had any foresight, they would have let the Turks continue to rule the Arabs after WWI. Oh well.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (2ocoG)
Yes, well, we should let them figure that out for themselves.
I agree, their cultures tends to be structured for more of a strong man dictator than, say, Western European cultures.
If the Brits and French had any foresight, they would have let the Turks continue to rule the Arabs after WWI. Oh well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:51 PM (uCjyK)
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Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
Right. That's the other option.
Not saying it's the answer, but needs to be included because it's more likely than aliens.
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
Right. That's the other option.
Not saying it's the answer, but needs to be included because it's more likely than aliens.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:51 PM (N1DT3)
181
How many telescopes are pointed at the sky 24 /7?
Not one piece of evidence of extraterrestrials .
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cloaking devices
Not one piece of evidence of extraterrestrials .
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cloaking devices
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:51 PM (g47mK)
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173 How many telescopes are pointed at the sky 24 /7?
Not one piece of evidence of extraterrestrials .
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (VofaG)
There are a few pointed back towards Earth by various countries, or so I hear...
Not one piece of evidence of extraterrestrials .
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (VofaG)
There are a few pointed back towards Earth by various countries, or so I hear...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (ynpvh)
183
Israel has said Epstein wasn’t one of their spies. Case closed.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (ImXfC)
184
And then we killed him. Proving to every other dictator that it doesn't matter if you do what the US wants, they'll betray you anyway. So get every bit of power/leverage to protect yourself that you can.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Yeah. That was pretty messed up and short sighted.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Yeah. That was pretty messed up and short sighted.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (4IClK)
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (TN0g+)
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cloaking devices
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:51 PM (g47mK)
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In Jim's case, a cloaca device.
....I'll see myself out.
cloaking devices
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:51 PM (g47mK)
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In Jim's case, a cloaca device.
....I'll see myself out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (tT6L1)
187
huh, I wonder if Tucker can handle another billion dollar law suit, this time without FOx' insurance
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM
Who would bring it? I don't know absolutely but I was pretty sure that you can't slander a dead guy or a nation state.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM
Who would bring it? I don't know absolutely but I was pretty sure that you can't slander a dead guy or a nation state.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (jc0TO)
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178 I be doin'. Should get my ass back to working again.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Don't say that around Pete Buttigieg. Jus' sayin'.
Glad to hear that you're hanging in there.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:51 PM (77rzZ)
Those are NOT the right holes...
Actually, NO holes on my body are the right holes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Don't say that around Pete Buttigieg. Jus' sayin'.
Glad to hear that you're hanging in there.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:51 PM (77rzZ)
Those are NOT the right holes...
Actually, NO holes on my body are the right holes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (ynpvh)
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It's either us, our enemies or it's aliens. It was like I realized the government admitted there's aliens and no one paid attention.
So if its our experiments what message do you think the government would push through any channel it had access to?
And the answer is "not us". And if it was one of our rivals I think we'd see more out of Russia or China right? So that leaves...its us.
So if its our experiments what message do you think the government would push through any channel it had access to?
And the answer is "not us". And if it was one of our rivals I think we'd see more out of Russia or China right? So that leaves...its us.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (t0Rmr)
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Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
So they saw a big light that was unaffected by gravity.
Sure sounds like a description of the spiritual beings as described in the Bible. Wonder if they felt any wind off of it?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
So they saw a big light that was unaffected by gravity.
Sure sounds like a description of the spiritual beings as described in the Bible. Wonder if they felt any wind off of it?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (N1DT3)
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The Epstein Files are a much bigger issue than this. If you don’t support their full release you’re not MAGA!!
Posted by: Laura Looney at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (IjQcV)
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185 Winning requires boots on the ground....
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Assumes facts not in evidence.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (TN0g+)
Indeed. The entire surface of an enemy country tuned into molten asphalt could be considered a win. And you wouldn't want boots on the ground anyway, until things cooled, both thermally and radioactively.
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Assumes facts not in evidence.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (TN0g+)
Indeed. The entire surface of an enemy country tuned into molten asphalt could be considered a win. And you wouldn't want boots on the ground anyway, until things cooled, both thermally and radioactively.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:54 PM (ynpvh)
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How would you describe technology so advanced that you had no frame of reference beyond "floating" or "it just appeared out of thin air" ?
Magic ? Angels ?
Magic ? Angels ?
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:54 PM (pb1DT)
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How many telescopes are pointed at the sky 24 /7?
Not one piece of evidence of extraterrestrials .
See on a recent "its a UFO" thread on another forum...
"How come 80% of the population carries super advanced camera phones on them at all times and every time there is a UFO siting its grandma Smith with a 20 year old Nokia?"
Not one piece of evidence of extraterrestrials .
See on a recent "its a UFO" thread on another forum...
"How come 80% of the population carries super advanced camera phones on them at all times and every time there is a UFO siting its grandma Smith with a 20 year old Nokia?"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (t0Rmr)
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Another preliminary finding is that everyone, and I mean everyone, is dependent on US taxpayer money.
The New World Order collapses if we cut off financing to UN, to State Department, to NED, etc.
- DataRepublican(small r)
The New World Order collapses if we cut off financing to UN, to State Department, to NED, etc.
- DataRepublican(small r)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (/U5Yz)
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Don't try too hard to cover your ass and dissemble your hatred for Israel.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (WHfpM)
It was a stemwinder of a speech.
He was working the crowd.
Here's the 3m17s clip of some relevant parts:
https://tinyurl.com/3kxn7h7d
(@WarMonitors on X)
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 04:50 PM (WHfpM)
It was a stemwinder of a speech.
He was working the crowd.
Here's the 3m17s clip of some relevant parts:
https://tinyurl.com/3kxn7h7d
(@WarMonitors on X)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (6ydKt)
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And we (and the Brits) have installed dictators in Iran. Twice. Which led to where we are today.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The people in those countries don't do so well choosing leaders themselves. They have their own damn agency as we are by no means all powerful. Blaming us for acts in the 50's has about as much relevance to Iranian politics in the 2020s as our alliance with the Soviet Union in WWII and their occupation of the northern half of Iran does.
Simply put, Carter wanted the Shah gone for because the Shah embarrassed him and we made it clear to teh military to stay in their barracks there.
During the power vacuum, the commies/socialists under the long running MEK thought they would end up top dog in a mixed government but France (and by some accounts Carter) thought Khomeini being allowed to return to power would be copacetic .
The result is that Muzzie assholes won the violent street and political battles and we lost an ally. Thus, the entire Middle East became a violent war torn shithole primarily due to the mullahs in Iran stirring up shit via proxies. Bunch of dead Americans in Iran, Iraq, and Lebanon because of those assholes.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The people in those countries don't do so well choosing leaders themselves. They have their own damn agency as we are by no means all powerful. Blaming us for acts in the 50's has about as much relevance to Iranian politics in the 2020s as our alliance with the Soviet Union in WWII and their occupation of the northern half of Iran does.
Simply put, Carter wanted the Shah gone for because the Shah embarrassed him and we made it clear to teh military to stay in their barracks there.
During the power vacuum, the commies/socialists under the long running MEK thought they would end up top dog in a mixed government but France (and by some accounts Carter) thought Khomeini being allowed to return to power would be copacetic .
The result is that Muzzie assholes won the violent street and political battles and we lost an ally. Thus, the entire Middle East became a violent war torn shithole primarily due to the mullahs in Iran stirring up shit via proxies. Bunch of dead Americans in Iran, Iraq, and Lebanon because of those assholes.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (ctrM5)
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190 Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
So they saw a big light that was unaffected by gravity.
Sure sounds like a description of the spiritual beings as described in the Bible. Wonder if they felt any wind off of it?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (N1DT3)
Pull my finger to find out...
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
So they saw a big light that was unaffected by gravity.
Sure sounds like a description of the spiritual beings as described in the Bible. Wonder if they felt any wind off of it?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (N1DT3)
Pull my finger to find out...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (ynpvh)
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There are more than 4 options
- optical illusion from a reflection off the windscreen
- psychological experiment of programming people into seeing stuff that does not exist. Like maybe shooting soundwaves into their brains to mess with the visual cortex.
- mass hypnosis
- attention whoring
- optical illusion from a reflection off the windscreen
- psychological experiment of programming people into seeing stuff that does not exist. Like maybe shooting soundwaves into their brains to mess with the visual cortex.
- mass hypnosis
- attention whoring
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (S6/Nv)
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190 Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
So they saw a big light that was unaffected by gravity.
Sure sounds like a description of the spiritual beings as described in the Bible. Wonder if they felt any wind off of it?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (N1DT3)
Or there are just all kinds of natural phenomenon that we do not understand. That'd hardly be surprising. It's not like we've made a lot of progress in physics lately.
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
So they saw a big light that was unaffected by gravity.
Sure sounds like a description of the spiritual beings as described in the Bible. Wonder if they felt any wind off of it?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (N1DT3)
Or there are just all kinds of natural phenomenon that we do not understand. That'd hardly be surprising. It's not like we've made a lot of progress in physics lately.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (CzMNg)
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as one recalls after osirak, the iaea still allowed iraq to continue it's nuclear program, probably with german and french assistance, by the time of the Gulf War, they were allegedly two years away, from a viable bomb according to UNSCOM
Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (bXbFr)
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Geraldo is the Geraldo of Geraldos. He is unique media idiot
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (volu5)
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Those are NOT the right holes...
Actually, NO holes on my body are the right holes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Glad you are feeling better. Your wit is worth a lot here.
Actually, NO holes on my body are the right holes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Glad you are feeling better. Your wit is worth a lot here.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (ctrM5)
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200 190 Or they're angels and demons?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
So they saw a big light that was unaffected by gravity.
Sure sounds like a description of the spiritual beings as described in the Bible. Wonder if they felt any wind off of it?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (N1DT3)
Or there are just all kinds of natural phenomenon that we do not understand. That'd hardly be surprising. It's not like we've made a lot of progress in physics lately.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (CzMNg)
Does DEI count?
I don't know but if that Navy guy isn't an op for our own advanced weapons what the hell are those things?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 04:48 PM (hs4ik)
So they saw a big light that was unaffected by gravity.
Sure sounds like a description of the spiritual beings as described in the Bible. Wonder if they felt any wind off of it?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:53 PM (N1DT3)
Or there are just all kinds of natural phenomenon that we do not understand. That'd hardly be surprising. It's not like we've made a lot of progress in physics lately.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (CzMNg)
Does DEI count?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (ynpvh)
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And then we killed him. Proving to every other dictator that it doesn't matter if you do what the US wants, they'll betray you anyway. So get every bit of power/leverage to protect yourself that you can.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Yeah. That was pretty messed up and short sighted.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (4IClK)
Hmmm. I wonder if doing things like that has any impact on why third world dictators are threatening to get nukes and don't believe the US negotiates in good faith.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Yeah. That was pretty messed up and short sighted.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (4IClK)
Hmmm. I wonder if doing things like that has any impact on why third world dictators are threatening to get nukes and don't believe the US negotiates in good faith.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (uCjyK)
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such delicious shit pebbles
seriously guyx gotta try it
seriously guyx gotta try it
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (9Hakf)
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Oh this is too good.
@EricLDaugh
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🚨 BREAKING: The FULL letter from Minnesota politician assassin Vance Boelter has been RELEASED, per
@LizCollin
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"Tim [Walz] wanted me to k*ll Amy Klobuchar...Tim Wants to be a senator..."
"I told Tim I want nothing to do with it and if he didn't call off that plan I would go public..."
@EricLDaugh
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6m
🚨 BREAKING: The FULL letter from Minnesota politician assassin Vance Boelter has been RELEASED, per
@LizCollin
.
"Tim [Walz] wanted me to k*ll Amy Klobuchar...Tim Wants to be a senator..."
"I told Tim I want nothing to do with it and if he didn't call off that plan I would go public..."
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (viF8m)
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I've always said the I believe sleep paralysis is the cause for most alien abduction/contact reports.
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
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Or there are just all kinds of natural phenomenon that we do not understand. That'd hardly be surprising. It's not like we've made a lot of progress in physics lately.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (CzMNg)
I'm amused by the confident pronouncements about objects that are light years away from us that was have observed from our single, very limited perspective.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:55 PM (CzMNg)
I'm amused by the confident pronouncements about objects that are light years away from us that was have observed from our single, very limited perspective.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (N1DT3)
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With numbers that high for "by any means necessary," he shoulda nuked Fordo.
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I thought nuking Fordo would have caused horizontal surface damage but left the bunkered building(s) more or less unharmed?
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I thought nuking Fordo would have caused horizontal surface damage but left the bunkered building(s) more or less unharmed?
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (TN0g+)
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mossadegh would likely have been another commie dictator, probably overthrown by the tudeh, the Communist faction and we might had that war, that prefaced Seven Days in May,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (bXbFr)
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Shut up, Dunce.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (jc0TO)
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203 Those are NOT the right holes...
Actually, NO holes on my body are the right holes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Glad you are feeling better. Your wit is worth a lot here.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (ctrM5)
Well, I'm glad I'm a not a witless Moron.
Actually, NO holes on my body are the right holes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Glad you are feeling better. Your wit is worth a lot here.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (ctrM5)
Well, I'm glad I'm a not a witless Moron.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 04:58 PM (g47mK)
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I'm waiting for The Cat From Outer Space to return. He solved a lot of problems.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:58 PM (/U5Yz)
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Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (9Hakf)
Who cares.
Trump is 15-0 at scotus.
Trust the plan.
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 04:56 PM (9Hakf)
Who cares.
Trump is 15-0 at scotus.
Trust the plan.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:58 PM (ImXfC)
217
please send shit pebbles
im out
im out
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (9Hakf)
218
The fall of Tucker. Even Ace has turned on him.
Posted by: My name was erased at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (WE1WX)
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I can't say the notion that our government was contacted by beings from another dimension* and are following their suggestions is absurd as it would explain a bunch of things, but why would King Paimon then skim by Pilot Smith or Four Drunk Guys fishing in his ball of light instead of just giving Fauci or Obama orders directly?**
*a particularly hot other dimension
**Yes this is more or less the plot of That Hideous Strength
*a particularly hot other dimension
**Yes this is more or less the plot of That Hideous Strength
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (t0Rmr)
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I'm amused by the confident pronouncements about objects that are light years away from us that was have observed from our single, very limited perspective.
Yep. On the galactic scale - we're not even able to sail in the deep water. We don't know much at this point.
Yep. On the galactic scale - we're not even able to sail in the deep water. We don't know much at this point.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (pb1DT)
221
Here's a graph I stole from Ed Morrissey:
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Wait, Ace is the Jonah Goldberg of Claudine Gays of F. Joe Bidens?
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Wait, Ace is the Jonah Goldberg of Claudine Gays of F. Joe Bidens?
/
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (oThr7)
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I've always said the I believe sleep paralysis is the cause for most alien abduction/contact reports.
Sometimes a rectal probing is just a rectal probing.
Sometimes a rectal probing is just a rectal probing.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (jc0TO)
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208 I've always said the I believe sleep paralysis is the cause for most alien abduction/contact reports.
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
https://tinyurl.com/3cfdauv3
::: yeah, I know, fake news :::
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
https://tinyurl.com/3cfdauv3
::: yeah, I know, fake news :::
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (ynpvh)
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Who would bring it? I don't know absolutely but I was pretty sure that you can't slander a dead guy or a nation state.
Posted by: toby928
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Pretty much. Plus opinion versus factual assertions make it impossible to proceed with a lawsuit. Opinions that TJM is literate are allowable under the First, factually asserting that TJM is literate is libelous.
Rachel Madcow got away with dismissing a libel suit precisely for that reason. Opinion versus fact.
Posted by: toby928
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Pretty much. Plus opinion versus factual assertions make it impossible to proceed with a lawsuit. Opinions that TJM is literate are allowable under the First, factually asserting that TJM is literate is libelous.
Rachel Madcow got away with dismissing a libel suit precisely for that reason. Opinion versus fact.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (ctrM5)
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If this was WWIII like the pundits and some here said it was going to be it certainly didn't live up to the hype. I hope WWIIII is better.
Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (IlL6s)
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218 The fall of Tucker. Even Ace has turned on him.
Posted by: My name was erased at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (WE1WX)
The rich and the middle class don't really align well politically...
Posted by: My name was erased at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (WE1WX)
The rich and the middle class don't really align well politically...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (tOcjL)
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- optical illusion from a reflection off the windscreen
- psychological experiment of programming people into seeing stuff that does not exist. Like maybe shooting soundwaves into their brains to mess with the visual cortex.
- mass hypnosis
- attention whoring
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025
I will add these to my mental list. I of course thought of the last one but not the others.
The list also applies to who was flying the drones and why.
- optical illusion from a reflection off the windscreen
- psychological experiment of programming people into seeing stuff that does not exist. Like maybe shooting soundwaves into their brains to mess with the visual cortex.
- mass hypnosis
- attention whoring
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025
I will add these to my mental list. I of course thought of the last one but not the others.
The list also applies to who was flying the drones and why.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 05:01 PM (hs4ik)
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168 We have had an absolutely awful track record of regime change and installing dictators, almost every single one of which has bit us in the ass one way or another. Not to mention the people living there probably weren't too appreciative.
Counterfactuals are hard.
Posted by: toby928
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The problem is that most of our regime changes are to thwart the commies from doing their own regime change.
You can't criticize the USA for doing what it does without accepting that the alternative would have usually been much worse.
Counterfactuals are hard.
Posted by: toby928
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The problem is that most of our regime changes are to thwart the commies from doing their own regime change.
You can't criticize the USA for doing what it does without accepting that the alternative would have usually been much worse.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 05:01 PM (S6/Nv)
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222 I've always said the I believe sleep paralysis is the cause for most alien abduction/contact reports.
Sometimes a rectal probing is just a rectal probing.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (jc0TO)
Every colonoscopy I've had was done when I was knocked out...
Doctors are Aliens?
Sometimes a rectal probing is just a rectal probing.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:59 PM (jc0TO)
Every colonoscopy I've had was done when I was knocked out...
Doctors are Aliens?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:01 PM (ynpvh)
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If this was WWIII like the pundits and some here said it was going to be it certainly didn't live up to the hype. I hope WWIIII is better.
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WWIIIII is gonna be lit!
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WWIIIII is gonna be lit!
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 05:01 PM (TN0g+)
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183 Israel has said Epstein wasn’t one of their spies. Case closed.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (ImXfC)
Yeah, that's a pretty bold thing to lie about. Epstein almost certainly had some relationship with Mossad, I don't know why they'd even try denying it.
Or is the position of the state of Israel now that Ghislaine and Robert Maxwell had no connection to Mossad?
I mean, we know how these things generally work. I doubt Epstein was getting a weekly paycheck from Mossad or anything like that, and I'm sure he was working primarily with US intelligence since he was based in the US, but he's up to his eyeballs in intelligence. Which is also what former US Attorney Acosta said to the DOJ when they investigated the plea deal years later. That he was told to back off of Epstein because he was an intelligence asset.
I suppose he COULD have been lying, but...
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 04:52 PM (ImXfC)
Yeah, that's a pretty bold thing to lie about. Epstein almost certainly had some relationship with Mossad, I don't know why they'd even try denying it.
Or is the position of the state of Israel now that Ghislaine and Robert Maxwell had no connection to Mossad?
I mean, we know how these things generally work. I doubt Epstein was getting a weekly paycheck from Mossad or anything like that, and I'm sure he was working primarily with US intelligence since he was based in the US, but he's up to his eyeballs in intelligence. Which is also what former US Attorney Acosta said to the DOJ when they investigated the plea deal years later. That he was told to back off of Epstein because he was an intelligence asset.
I suppose he COULD have been lying, but...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 05:02 PM (uCjyK)
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Focus morons. The maniac who gunned down the Democrat politicians and spouses in Minnesota wrote a manifesto that says Governor Jazz Hands wanted him to kill Sen. Klobbuchar so he could take her Senate seat.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 05:02 PM (viF8m)
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218 The fall of Tucker. Even Ace has turned on him.
Posted by: My name was erased
Eh, media personalities are only as good as their last disastrous interview.
Any desires for Jerry Rivers to be taken seriously as a journalist died when "Capone's Safe" was opened and found empty. Since then he has simply been plumbing new depths in a very shallow intellect and even less virtue.
And so on.
Posted by: My name was erased
Eh, media personalities are only as good as their last disastrous interview.
Any desires for Jerry Rivers to be taken seriously as a journalist died when "Capone's Safe" was opened and found empty. Since then he has simply been plumbing new depths in a very shallow intellect and even less virtue.
And so on.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 05:02 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (ynpvh)
I lol at the headline of the previous article.
Man has female brain transplant and has five subsequent car accidents.
I lol at the headline of the previous article.
Man has female brain transplant and has five subsequent car accidents.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (VofaG)
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How would you describe technology so advanced that you had no frame of reference beyond "floating" or "it just appeared out of thin air" ?
Magic ? Angels ?
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:54 PM (pb1DT)
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How would you explain a jet airplane to a medieval peasant?
Magic ? Angels ?
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:54 PM (pb1DT)
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How would you explain a jet airplane to a medieval peasant?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (7fElN)
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232 Focus morons. The maniac who gunned down the Democrat politicians and spouses in Minnesota wrote a manifesto that says Governor Jazz Hands wanted him to kill Sen. Klobbuchar so he could take her Senate seat.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 05:02 PM (viF8m)
I thought he was Tampon Tim...but I guess he can carry more than one moniker.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 05:02 PM (viF8m)
I thought he was Tampon Tim...but I guess he can carry more than one moniker.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (ynpvh)
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I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
https://tinyurl.com/3cfdauv3
::: yeah, I know, fake news :::
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (ynpvh)
Oh my.
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
https://tinyurl.com/3cfdauv3
::: yeah, I know, fake news :::
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (ynpvh)
Oh my.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (NdhfH)
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Doctors are Aliens?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:01 PM
Of course not. They're Lizard People.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:01 PM
Of course not. They're Lizard People.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (jc0TO)
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The maniac who gunned down the Democrat politicians and spouses in Minnesota wrote a manifesto that says Governor Jazz Hands wanted him to kill Sen. Klobbuchar so he could take her Senate seat.
Look - all The Coach can do is call the play. The players have to execute.
Look - all The Coach can do is call the play. The players have to execute.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (pb1DT)
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208 I've always said the I believe sleep paralysis is the cause for most alien abduction/contact reports.
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
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I think in times past it was explained as a demon sitting on you, stealing your soul or something.
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
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I think in times past it was explained as a demon sitting on you, stealing your soul or something.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (7fElN)
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I approve of the midnight hammer.
Posted by: Paul Pelosi at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (NEY8e)
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How would you explain a jet airplane to a medieval peasant?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM
Sky Ship?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM
Sky Ship?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (jc0TO)
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232 Focus morons. The maniac who gunned down the Democrat politicians and spouses in Minnesota wrote a manifesto that says Governor Jazz Hands wanted him to kill Sen. Klobbuchar so he could take her Senate seat.
Posted by: JackStraw
As long as Hillary wasn't mentioned he'll remain safe and alive.
Posted by: JackStraw
As long as Hillary wasn't mentioned he'll remain safe and alive.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (/U5Yz)
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208 I've always said the I believe sleep paralysis is the cause for most alien abduction/contact reports.
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
Many many years ago I had sleep paralysis several times at a very creepy house I was renting. The kind where you have a being standing near or on you; for me it was a woman standing behind the head of my bed. It was so weird I was almost convinced the house was haunted
I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
Many many years ago I had sleep paralysis several times at a very creepy house I was renting. The kind where you have a being standing near or on you; for me it was a woman standing behind the head of my bed. It was so weird I was almost convinced the house was haunted
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (8hxDK)
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BREAKING: OMG: Johnson & Johnson Lead Scientist Confesses J&J Covid Vaccine Was ‘Not Safe and Effective’ – “Lack of Research” (VIDEO)
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But on a positive note - Those who were forced and did the J&J 'One Shot Clot' did not have to take two shots to be 'Safe and Effective’ and indefinite 'boosters' on top of that.
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But on a positive note - Those who were forced and did the J&J 'One Shot Clot' did not have to take two shots to be 'Safe and Effective’ and indefinite 'boosters' on top of that.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (/lPRQ)
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I've always said the I believe sleep paralysis is the cause for most alien abduction/contact reports.
A couple of points on this I find interesting...
1) Old timey sleep paralysis had people seeing demons. Modern sleep paralysis has people often seeing stereotypical aliens. How exactly does pop culture impact this stuff? If you go to some tribe with little contact with the outside world what do they see with sleep paralysis?
2) I've seen a number of people claim they've had a stereotypical alien abduction experience and called out to Jesus and it ended immediately. That could support either the idea this is a psychological event or a spiritual event...but why would it work if it was a physical event with real physical aliens that are merely life forms with more advanced tech?
A couple of points on this I find interesting...
1) Old timey sleep paralysis had people seeing demons. Modern sleep paralysis has people often seeing stereotypical aliens. How exactly does pop culture impact this stuff? If you go to some tribe with little contact with the outside world what do they see with sleep paralysis?
2) I've seen a number of people claim they've had a stereotypical alien abduction experience and called out to Jesus and it ended immediately. That could support either the idea this is a psychological event or a spiritual event...but why would it work if it was a physical event with real physical aliens that are merely life forms with more advanced tech?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (t0Rmr)
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The American voter is apparently schizophrenic; how the hell do you have 80% approval to stop Iran's nuke program "by any means necessary," and at the same time disapprove of the one action taken to do exactly that?
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (XMwZJ)
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I'm sure he was working primarily with US intelligence since he was based in the US, but he's up to his eyeballs in intelligence. Which is also what former US Attorney Acosta said to the DOJ when they investigated the plea deal years later. That he was told to back off of Epstein because he was an intelligence asset.
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Hence the coverup.
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Hence the coverup.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (ImXfC)
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211 mossadegh would likely have been another commie dictator, probably overthrown by the tudeh, the Communist faction and we might had that war, that prefaced Seven Days in May,
Posted by: miguel cervantes
Uncivil societies will have uncivil politics. That is why the magic dirt theory in bringing in loads of immigrants from uncivil societies is bound to end with tears and blood.
Posted by: miguel cervantes
Uncivil societies will have uncivil politics. That is why the magic dirt theory in bringing in loads of immigrants from uncivil societies is bound to end with tears and blood.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (/U5Yz)
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232 Focus morons. The maniac who gunned down the Democrat politicians and spouses in Minnesota wrote a manifesto that says Governor Jazz Hands wanted him to kill Sen. Klobbuchar so he could take her Senate seat.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 05:02 PM (viF8m)
Oh well. We'll give him a "B" for effort and an "F" for execution. No pun intended!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 05:02 PM (viF8m)
Oh well. We'll give him a "B" for effort and an "F" for execution. No pun intended!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (uCjyK)
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239 The maniac who gunned down the Democrat politicians and spouses in Minnesota wrote a manifesto that says Governor Jazz Hands wanted him to kill Sen. Klobbuchar so he could take her Senate seat.
Look - all The Coach can do is call the play. The players have to execute.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (pb1DT)
Although killing random state office holders before going for the main target is a lot of confidence you won't get caught...
Look - all The Coach can do is call the play. The players have to execute.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (pb1DT)
Although killing random state office holders before going for the main target is a lot of confidence you won't get caught...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (tOcjL)
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How would you explain a jet airplane to a medieval peasant?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (7fElN)
I wouldn't.
I'd tell him he'd better get to work on my pyramid or my sky servants would kill him.
I really want a pyramid.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (7fElN)
I wouldn't.
I'd tell him he'd better get to work on my pyramid or my sky servants would kill him.
I really want a pyramid.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (CzMNg)
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I have seen optical illusions where your brain tries desperately to make something fit into a known object even though it is something else.
I am not talking about the 2d stuff you see in images, but things where your brain glimpses something and makes a decision and you believe you are seeing something that is completely wrong.
The visual processing center is a lot like what we now have with AI -- it hallucinates. Not often, and there are checks to correct, but in split second situations the brain can do some very screwed up things. This is why I am very skeptical of eyewitness accounts.
I am not talking about the 2d stuff you see in images, but things where your brain glimpses something and makes a decision and you believe you are seeing something that is completely wrong.
The visual processing center is a lot like what we now have with AI -- it hallucinates. Not often, and there are checks to correct, but in split second situations the brain can do some very screwed up things. This is why I am very skeptical of eyewitness accounts.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 05:06 PM (S6/Nv)
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The maniac who gunned down the Democrat politicians and spouses in Minnesota wrote a manifesto that says Governor Jazz Hands wanted him to kill Sen. Klobbuchar so he could take her Senate seat.
On the one hand this level of direct political insanity seems hard to believe, on the other hand these same people openly tried to assassinate Trump twice just last year.
On the one hand this level of direct political insanity seems hard to believe, on the other hand these same people openly tried to assassinate Trump twice just last year.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:06 PM (t0Rmr)
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I think in times past it was explained as a demon sitting on you, stealing your soul or something.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Demonic oppression is one such term. Attack from without.
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Demonic oppression is one such term. Attack from without.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 05:06 PM (ctrM5)
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There are other 80/20 issues to address. Eighty percent of the public knows that Mel's Hole is bottomless, but there are twenty percent who are deniers.
The overlap with penguin haters is notable.
The overlap with penguin haters is notable.
Posted by: Penguin Liberation Front at July 15, 2025 05:06 PM (G5+As)
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How would you explain a jet airplane to a medieval peasant?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (7fElN)
More like to a caveman.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (7fElN)
More like to a caveman.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 05:06 PM (ImXfC)
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Every colonoscopy I've had was done when I was knocked out...
Doctors are Aliens?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Too many patients seeing that the 'scope' is actually a ten foot tentacle causes complications in the procedure.
Every colonoscopy I've had was done when I was knocked out...
Doctors are Aliens?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Too many patients seeing that the 'scope' is actually a ten foot tentacle causes complications in the procedure.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (/lPRQ)
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is boulter, playing the sirhan sirhan card,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (bXbFr)
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2) I've seen a number of people claim they've had a stereotypical alien abduction experience and called out to Jesus and it ended immediately. That could support either the idea this is a psychological event or a spiritual event...but why would it work if it was a physical event with real physical aliens that are merely life forms with more advanced tech?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (t0Rmr)
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I've had dreams where I've been hunted by demons, but when I call out to Jesus to rebuke the demons the dreams stop immediately.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM (t0Rmr)
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I've had dreams where I've been hunted by demons, but when I call out to Jesus to rebuke the demons the dreams stop immediately.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (7fElN)
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On the one hand this level of direct political insanity seems hard to believe, on the other hand these same people openly tried to assassinate Trump twice just last year.
Posted by: 18-1
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And Scotus justices,
And GOP House members,
And CEOs
Etc.
But antifa is just an idea.
Posted by: 18-1
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And Scotus justices,
And GOP House members,
And CEOs
Etc.
But antifa is just an idea.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (ctrM5)
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I have seen optical illusions where your brain tries desperately to make something fit into a known object even though it is something else.
A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (t0Rmr)
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Although killing random state office holders before going for the main target is a lot of confidence you won't get caught...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM
It's like playing Kent State as a warm-up to LSU.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM
It's like playing Kent State as a warm-up to LSU.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (jc0TO)
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I thought he was Tampon Tim...but I guess he can carry more than one moniker.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Toxic shock Tim?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Toxic shock Tim?
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (KAi1n)
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"I told Tim I want nothing to do with it and if he didn't call off that plan I would go public..."
Posted by: JackStraw
Yet he still went through with it.
Posted by: JackStraw
Yet he still went through with it.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:08 PM (4IClK)
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Many many years ago I had sleep paralysis several times at a very creepy house I was renting. The kind where you have a being standing near or on you; for me it was a woman standing behind the head of my bed. It was so weird I was almost convinced the house was haunted.
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Posted by: Call 1-800-DIVORCE at July 15, 2025 05:08 PM (TN0g+)
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A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (t0Rmr)
That's why I have a rule in my house: you can't leave any clothes on the cuck chair, it scares me.
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (t0Rmr)
That's why I have a rule in my house: you can't leave any clothes on the cuck chair, it scares me.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 05:08 PM (uCjyK)
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Bbbutt Tucker asked Ted Cruz if he knew the population if Iran so it makes him soooper smart! Then he giggled. Like a serial killer with a victim in his basement. Fuck Tuck and Candace Owens.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 05:08 PM (4p0Xq)
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Every colonoscopy I've had was done when I was knocked out...
Doctors are Aliens?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
I've woken up and heard the nurses commenting on my near perfect man ass.
Doctors are Aliens?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
I've woken up and heard the nurses commenting on my near perfect man ass.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 05:08 PM (/U5Yz)
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253 How would you explain a jet airplane to a medieval peasant?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (7fElN)
I wouldn't.
I'd tell him he'd better get to work on my pyramid or my sky servants would kill him.
I really want a pyramid.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (CzMNg)
Almost Zog-like answer.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 05:03 PM (7fElN)
I wouldn't.
I'd tell him he'd better get to work on my pyramid or my sky servants would kill him.
I really want a pyramid.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (CzMNg)
Almost Zog-like answer.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:08 PM (ynpvh)
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Too many patients seeing that the 'scope' is actually a ten foot tentacle causes complications in the procedure.
Wait...it is?
Well, I think I might be overdue for my 'scope...gotta stay on top of this stuff you know!
Too many patients seeing that the 'scope' is actually a ten foot tentacle causes complications in the procedure.
Wait...it is?
Well, I think I might be overdue for my 'scope...gotta stay on top of this stuff you know!
Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at July 15, 2025 05:09 PM (t0Rmr)
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I thought he was Tampon Tim...but I guess he can carry more than one moniker.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Toxic shock Tim?
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM
I call him Timpon
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Toxic shock Tim?
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM
I call him Timpon
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 05:09 PM (4p0Xq)
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I've had dreams where I've been hunted by demons, but when I call out to Jesus to rebuke the demons the dreams stop immediately.
I've had dreams where I'm drowning - but once I wake up and take away the pillow the wife usually gives up and everything settles down.
I've had dreams where I'm drowning - but once I wake up and take away the pillow the wife usually gives up and everything settles down.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 05:09 PM (pb1DT)
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I've had dreams where I've been hunted by demons, but when I call out to Jesus to rebuke the demons the dreams stop immediately.
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If we believe in "good", we have to believe in "evil". I believe in both, and that angels and demons exist.
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If we believe in "good", we have to believe in "evil". I believe in both, and that angels and demons exist.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (TN0g+)
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I want to see Waltz confronted with "did you ask the shooter to kill Senator Klobuchar?". I just want to see that squirrel's reaction
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (volu5)
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I had it happen to me once and it's the weirdest thing every.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
https://tinyurl.com/3cfdauv3
::: yeah, I know, fake news :::
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (ynpvh)
Oh my.
Posted by: CaliGirl
A man who was arrested by the FBI Yesterday has confessed to kidnapping and sexually assaulting several dozen people while using COSTUMEs, drugs, and special effects to have his victims believe they had been abducted by aliens.
That guy does not need a 'costume'... Unless he is wearing it in the mug shot.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:57 PM (VofaG)
https://tinyurl.com/3cfdauv3
::: yeah, I know, fake news :::
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:00 PM (ynpvh)
Oh my.
Posted by: CaliGirl
A man who was arrested by the FBI Yesterday has confessed to kidnapping and sexually assaulting several dozen people while using COSTUMEs, drugs, and special effects to have his victims believe they had been abducted by aliens.
That guy does not need a 'costume'... Unless he is wearing it in the mug shot.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (/lPRQ)
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I've had dreams where I've been hunted by demons, but when I call out to Jesus to rebuke the demons the dreams stop immediately.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Doesn't sound like a dream.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Doesn't sound like a dream.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (4IClK)
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218 The fall of Tucker. Even Ace has turned on him.
Posted by: My name was erased
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When Tucker did the J6 tapes I said it was a cover. I said Fox would never let Tucker do a real investigation and so I thought Tucker was a patsy or a fool.
Ace defended him in the sidebar on that day. I think he realizes he got burnt by trusting Tucker to be based. Maybe he was based for quitting, but he was a fool to think Fox was going to allow him to do a real report, or that the DOJ was going to show him all the tapes.
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When Tucker did the J6 tapes I said it was a cover. I said Fox would never let Tucker do a real investigation and so I thought Tucker was a patsy or a fool.
Ace defended him in the sidebar on that day. I think he realizes he got burnt by trusting Tucker to be based. Maybe he was based for quitting, but he was a fool to think Fox was going to allow him to do a real report, or that the DOJ was going to show him all the tapes.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (S6/Nv)
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That's why I have a rule in my house: you can't leave any clothes on the cuck chair, it scares me.
After one unfortunately incident where I creased the fair Lady Jessica's skirt while she was entertaining the Paolo we adopted the same rule.
That's why I have a rule in my house: you can't leave any clothes on the cuck chair, it scares me.
After one unfortunately incident where I creased the fair Lady Jessica's skirt while she was entertaining the Paolo we adopted the same rule.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at July 15, 2025 05:11 PM (t0Rmr)
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The American voter is apparently schizophrenic; how the hell do you have 80% approval to stop Iran's nuke program "by any means necessary," and at the same time disapprove of the one action taken to do exactly that?
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM
Orange Man NoNo Square. Some assembly required.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 15, 2025 05:04 PM
Orange Man NoNo Square. Some assembly required.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 05:11 PM (4p0Xq)
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I've seen Shadow People a few times.
Mostly on the side of Home Depot.
Mostly on the side of Home Depot.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 05:11 PM (/U5Yz)
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278 I've had dreams where I've been hunted by demons, but when I call out to Jesus to rebuke the demons the dreams stop immediately.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Doesn't sound like a dream.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (4IClK)
Yeah, I've seen, felt, and heard things...
There is certainly more to this life that what science has discovered.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Doesn't sound like a dream.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (4IClK)
Yeah, I've seen, felt, and heard things...
There is certainly more to this life that what science has discovered.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:12 PM (ynpvh)
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If we believe in "good", we have to believe in "evil". I believe in both, and that angels and demons exist.
Posted by: Crusader
What's funny is, those the vehemently deny a "sky daddy" believe in Satan.
Can't have one without the other.
Posted by: Crusader
What's funny is, those the vehemently deny a "sky daddy" believe in Satan.
Can't have one without the other.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:12 PM (4IClK)
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With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1
yes
Posted by: 18-1
yes
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 05:13 PM (S6/Nv)
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Rep. Eric Burlison says UFO hearings in September will have first hand witnesses who transported and handled non-human craft and bodies. He was very skeptical about everything, but hanging out with David Grusch seems to have changed him.
Posted by: Sid at July 15, 2025 05:13 PM (1aINo)
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282 I've seen Shadow People a few times.
Mostly on the side of Home Depot.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 05:11 PM (/U5Yz)
When mentioned, my Dad said, "Yeah I saw them, but I'd be damned if I was gonna let them chase me out of my house"...
Mostly on the side of Home Depot.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 05:11 PM (/U5Yz)
When mentioned, my Dad said, "Yeah I saw them, but I'd be damned if I was gonna let them chase me out of my house"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)
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The American voter is apparently schizophrenic; how the hell do you have 80% approval to stop Iran's nuke program "by any means necessary," and at the same time disapprove of the one action taken to do exactly that?
Because most of the people interviewed don't really care.
They know they are supposed to and so they'll give whatever answer sounds right based on the question.
Can we let Iran have nukes? HELL NO
Do we want to kill innocent Iranians because Trump is a meanie? Also HELL NO
Because most of the people interviewed don't really care.
They know they are supposed to and so they'll give whatever answer sounds right based on the question.
Can we let Iran have nukes? HELL NO
Do we want to kill innocent Iranians because Trump is a meanie? Also HELL NO
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:13 PM (t0Rmr)
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Out of curiosity, how recent is it? Is Tucker some sort of erratic half-fool, half-genius?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (HL/Ld)
Posted on YouTube 5 days ago.
I would posit that a show that is based on interviewing a person, should be watched because of the person being interviewed, not the interviewer. Joe Rogan himself is fairly uninteresting, but I'd say he's #1 in the podcast space because of the people he has on. People bitch about silos and echo chambers, but then get all pissy when they hear from someone that might have a different opinion.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 04:34 PM (HL/Ld)
Posted on YouTube 5 days ago.
I would posit that a show that is based on interviewing a person, should be watched because of the person being interviewed, not the interviewer. Joe Rogan himself is fairly uninteresting, but I'd say he's #1 in the podcast space because of the people he has on. People bitch about silos and echo chambers, but then get all pissy when they hear from someone that might have a different opinion.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 05:13 PM (MZ+PY)
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he had said he had been hypnotized to shoot rfk, so they didn't have to pay attention to him, the fact he worked in the farm of domarreas, who had a stated animus toward the subject was left on,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 05:13 PM (bXbFr)
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I didn't see anybody or anything when I had the sleep paralysis but I was awake and couldn't move. I believe what I was thinking at the time was a continuation of a dream I was having .
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (VofaG)
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21 I have additional thoughts, but first I want to hear from Todd about the timing of this post.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (CzMNg)
At least Ace is copying HotAir's work from today this time.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (CzMNg)
At least Ace is copying HotAir's work from today this time.
Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (aGKc9)
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I have seen optical illusions where your brain tries desperately to make something fit into a known object even though it is something else.
A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1
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Trying sleep in someone's 'guest room' full of creepy dolls.
A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1
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Trying sleep in someone's 'guest room' full of creepy dolls.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (/lPRQ)
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Penguin haters are Iranian spies. It is well know, (most) everyone in the US believes it.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (g47mK)
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>>On the one hand this level of direct political insanity seems hard to believe, on the other hand these same people openly tried to assassinate Trump twice just last year.
A big part of me doesn't care if it's true or not. We had to deal with Russian hookers peeing on a hotel bed and Russia collusion for years. Let these liars deal with this crap for a while.
A big part of me doesn't care if it's true or not. We had to deal with Russian hookers peeing on a hotel bed and Russia collusion for years. Let these liars deal with this crap for a while.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (viF8m)
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What's funny is, those the vehemently deny a "sky daddy" believe in Satan.
Can't have one without the other.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:12 PM
Well, you could have a malevolent creator who delights in his creatures torment, like that Mayan Corn God guy. So God and Devil in one.
Can't have one without the other.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:12 PM
Well, you could have a malevolent creator who delights in his creatures torment, like that Mayan Corn God guy. So God and Devil in one.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO)
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The somewhat softer support for Midnight Up The Ass is most likely due also to lingering Democrap propaganda that the strike wasn’t totally successful
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 15, 2025 05:15 PM (NgBDl)
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I've had dreams where I've been hunted by demons, but when I call out to Jesus to rebuke the demons the dreams stop immediately.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Doesn't sound like a dream.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (4IClK)
I had a dream like that once but I called out to Spider-Man and the demon went away. Dead ass 100% serious.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Doesn't sound like a dream.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:10 PM (4IClK)
I had a dream like that once but I called out to Spider-Man and the demon went away. Dead ass 100% serious.
Posted by: Sounds like a joke but it's not at July 15, 2025 05:15 PM (TbWk/)
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293 I have seen optical illusions where your brain tries desperately to make something fit into a known object even though it is something else.
A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
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Trying sleep in someone's 'guest room' full of creepy dolls.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (/lPRQ)
Half asleep, going to the fridge, heard the rumblings of the fridge say, "Buy GE". Why, yes, it WAS a GE fridge...
A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1
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Trying sleep in someone's 'guest room' full of creepy dolls.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (/lPRQ)
Half asleep, going to the fridge, heard the rumblings of the fridge say, "Buy GE". Why, yes, it WAS a GE fridge...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:15 PM (ynpvh)
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Joe Rogan himself is fairly uninteresting, but I'd say he's #1 in the podcast space because of the people he has on. People bitch about silos and echo chambers, but then get all pissy when they hear from someone that might have a different opinion.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 05:13 PM (MZ+PY)
Agreed on Rogan. Although him going more political actually turned me off to him.
I don't need a meathead explaining to me why Trump has the best tax policies.
I want a meathead interviewing some guy who forages for hallucinogenic mushrooms in the woods of Oregon and lives in a tent, and might have seen big foot.
That's much more interesting to me.
But I also mostly just use podcasts to learn about stuff and turn off the politics for a while.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 05:13 PM (MZ+PY)
Agreed on Rogan. Although him going more political actually turned me off to him.
I don't need a meathead explaining to me why Trump has the best tax policies.
I want a meathead interviewing some guy who forages for hallucinogenic mushrooms in the woods of Oregon and lives in a tent, and might have seen big foot.
That's much more interesting to me.
But I also mostly just use podcasts to learn about stuff and turn off the politics for a while.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 05:15 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:15 PM (jc0TO)
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Speaking of Faux Noize
Article there about high Las Vegas prices.
Example they give us someone complaining that two water bottles cost $50. From the minibar.
Today’s “journalism”.
Article there about high Las Vegas prices.
Example they give us someone complaining that two water bottles cost $50. From the minibar.
Today’s “journalism”.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 05:15 PM (ImXfC)
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293 I have seen optical illusions where your brain tries desperately to make something fit into a known object even though it is something else.
A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1
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Trying sleep in someone's 'guest room' full of creepy dolls.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (/lPRQ)
Went to Circus Circus in Vegas with wife ONCE. Room had stuff going on that night...
No, not that.
A classic one of these is the old "chair filled with half dirty clothes"
With the light on its just clothes...with the light off your brain is pretty sure there is someone sitting in that chair...
Posted by: 18-1
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Trying sleep in someone's 'guest room' full of creepy dolls.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (/lPRQ)
Went to Circus Circus in Vegas with wife ONCE. Room had stuff going on that night...
No, not that.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:16 PM (ynpvh)
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Well, you could have a malevolent creator who delights in his creatures torment, like that Mayan Corn God guy. So God and Devil in one.
Posted by: toby928
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Gnosticism is the result when people ignore the actual Word of the Lord but instead focus on secret knowledge.
Posted by: toby928
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Gnosticism is the result when people ignore the actual Word of the Lord but instead focus on secret knowledge.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 05:16 PM (ctrM5)
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why do people insist that TV personalities deserve unconditional love , support, and respect? if they fuck up, if they show themselves to be idiots , they will get the blowback. I don't owe them anything.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 05:16 PM (g47mK)
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296 What's funny is, those the vehemently deny a "sky daddy" believe in Satan.
Can't have one without the other.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:12 PM
Well, you could have a malevolent creator who delights in his creatures torment, like that Mayan Corn God guy. So God and Devil in one.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO)
Mayan Corn God...was he into cornholing?
Can't have one without the other.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:12 PM
Well, you could have a malevolent creator who delights in his creatures torment, like that Mayan Corn God guy. So God and Devil in one.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO)
Mayan Corn God...was he into cornholing?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (ynpvh)
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Trying sleep in someone's 'guest room' full of creepy dolls.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Try sleeping in a friend's guest room with a king cobra in it. Yeah, it was caged. But still.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Try sleeping in a friend's guest room with a king cobra in it. Yeah, it was caged. But still.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (4IClK)
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>> Rep. Eric Burlison says UFO hearings in September will have first hand witnesses who transported and handled non-human craft and bodies.
There will be more garbage in that hearing than in your moms vagina.
There will be more garbage in that hearing than in your moms vagina.
Posted by: Nemesis at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (Srgb9)
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Trying sleep in someone's 'guest room' full of creepy dolls.
I dated a woman years ago who told me when she was little and they visited her grandma the room she slept in was full of dolls. And those dolls would move around at night.
This same woman was convinced ghosts were real and horror movies would scare her senseless.
Interesting how a little thing can affect someone decades later. I mean a little thing like locking your grand daughter in a room full of haunted dolls?
MUHAHAHAHAHA
I dated a woman years ago who told me when she was little and they visited her grandma the room she slept in was full of dolls. And those dolls would move around at night.
This same woman was convinced ghosts were real and horror movies would scare her senseless.
Interesting how a little thing can affect someone decades later. I mean a little thing like locking your grand daughter in a room full of haunted dolls?
MUHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (t0Rmr)
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Well, you could have a malevolent creator who delights in his creatures torment, like that Mayan Corn God guy. So God and Devil in one.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO)
Mayan Corn God...was he into cornholing?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
He was into TP.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO)
Mayan Corn God...was he into cornholing?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
He was into TP.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (4IClK)
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Try sleeping in a friend's guest room with a king cobra in it. Yeah, it was caged. But still.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (4IClK)
You must have trusted your friend a lot!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (4IClK)
You must have trusted your friend a lot!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 05:18 PM (g47mK)
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Vatican astronomer says if aliens exist, they may not need redemption
VATICAN CITY – If aliens exist, they may be a different life form that does not need Christ’s redemption, the Vatican’s chief astronomer said.
VATICAN CITY – If aliens exist, they may be a different life form that does not need Christ’s redemption, the Vatican’s chief astronomer said.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 05:18 PM (/U5Yz)
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Adam Carolla should be the #1 podcaster imo. He's much smarter and funnier than Rogan . I think he is a good interviewer also.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 05:18 PM (VofaG)
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I woke up at midnight to an earthquake. Never really got back to sleep.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 05:18 PM (S6/Nv)
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308 >> Rep. Eric Burlison says UFO hearings in September will have first hand witnesses who transported and handled non-human craft and bodies.
There will be more garbage in that hearing than in your moms vagina.
Posted by: Nemesis at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (Srgb9)
This is known as a planned distraction...
There will be more garbage in that hearing than in your moms vagina.
Posted by: Nemesis at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (Srgb9)
This is known as a planned distraction...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 05:18 PM (tOcjL)
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Try sleeping in a friend's guest room with a king cobra in it. Yeah, it was caged. But still.
I see videos from India where people smack King Cobras in the face when they start hissing and...the snakes just back down.
India really is a whole different world...
I see videos from India where people smack King Cobras in the face when they start hissing and...the snakes just back down.
India really is a whole different world...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:19 PM (t0Rmr)
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You must have trusted your friend a lot!
Posted by: runner
I did/do. He had some really neat snakes and a few scary ones.
Posted by: runner
I did/do. He had some really neat snakes and a few scary ones.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:19 PM (4IClK)
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Mayan Corn God...was he into cornholing?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM
I just pray not to end up in the Mayan Afterlife. There is a reason beyond force that made the Mayans convert to Catholicism quickly. Unless you were royal, the Mayan afterlife sucked llama balls.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM
I just pray not to end up in the Mayan Afterlife. There is a reason beyond force that made the Mayans convert to Catholicism quickly. Unless you were royal, the Mayan afterlife sucked llama balls.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:19 PM (jc0TO)
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305 why do people insist that TV personalities deserve unconditional love , support, and respect? if they fuck up, if they show themselves to be idiots , they will get the blowback. I don't owe them anything.
Posted by: runner
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The power of celebrity.
Posted by: runner
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The power of celebrity.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 05:19 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 05:19 PM (g47mK)
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Vatican astronomer says if aliens exist, they may not need redemption
VATICAN CITY – If aliens exist, they may be a different life form that does not need Christ’s redemption, the Vatican’s chief astronomer said.
That's exactly what demons pretending to be aliens would say you know.
VATICAN CITY – If aliens exist, they may be a different life form that does not need Christ’s redemption, the Vatican’s chief astronomer said.
That's exactly what demons pretending to be aliens would say you know.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:19 PM (t0Rmr)
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Given the billions of stars out there the odds were the only planet with life on it is kinda low.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 05:19 PM (ImXfC)
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"magic dirt theory" had to google that......
Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 05:20 PM (IlL6s)
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I see videos from India where people smack King Cobras in the face when they start hissing and...the snakes just back down.
India really is a whole different world...
Posted by: 18-1
They are crazy.
India really is a whole different world...
Posted by: 18-1
They are crazy.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:20 PM (4IClK)
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Try sleeping in a friend's guest room with a king cobra in it. Yeah, it was caged. But still.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (4IClK)
I briefly dated a girl who had 4 cats and 2 tarantulas. In separate cages. In her bedroom. And she would like take them out and "hang out" with them (they'd sit on her shoulder while she laid down and read books.) Not when I was there, but she'd send me pictures of her hanging with the spiders.
I could not sleep in that room. Every time I nodded off I pictured one of her stupid cats knocking the top off of the spider cage and waking up with one of those disgusting spiders crawling on me.
She was cute though. And probably the smartest girl I've ever dated.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (4IClK)
I briefly dated a girl who had 4 cats and 2 tarantulas. In separate cages. In her bedroom. And she would like take them out and "hang out" with them (they'd sit on her shoulder while she laid down and read books.) Not when I was there, but she'd send me pictures of her hanging with the spiders.
I could not sleep in that room. Every time I nodded off I pictured one of her stupid cats knocking the top off of the spider cage and waking up with one of those disgusting spiders crawling on me.
She was cute though. And probably the smartest girl I've ever dated.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 05:20 PM (uCjyK)
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What's funny is, those the vehemently deny a "sky daddy" believe in Satan.
Can't have one without the other.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:12 PM
Well, you could have a malevolent creator who delights in his creatures torment, like that Mayan Corn God guy. So God and Devil in one.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO)
The notion that the existence of a "good" deity requires or necessitates the existence of a "bad" deity is more rooted in Eastern mysticism (yin/yang) than Christian theology. There may in fact be a fallen angel or a whole cadre of them but the existence of a benevolent god does not necessitate their existence. It might be a metaphysical fact or not but I don't see how it axiomatically must follow.
Can't have one without the other.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:12 PM
Well, you could have a malevolent creator who delights in his creatures torment, like that Mayan Corn God guy. So God and Devil in one.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO)
The notion that the existence of a "good" deity requires or necessitates the existence of a "bad" deity is more rooted in Eastern mysticism (yin/yang) than Christian theology. There may in fact be a fallen angel or a whole cadre of them but the existence of a benevolent god does not necessitate their existence. It might be a metaphysical fact or not but I don't see how it axiomatically must follow.
Posted by: Our notions of benevolence and the records acts of God dont jibe either at July 15, 2025 05:20 PM (TbWk/)
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What was Tucker’s fuckup exactly? He has opinions you disagree with. It has to be 100% pure or nothing?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 05:21 PM (ImXfC)
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Adam Carolla should be the #1 podcaster imo. He's much smarter and funnier than Rogan .
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Rogan's value is in his guest list. And his ability to show genuine interest in those guests.
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Rogan's value is in his guest list. And his ability to show genuine interest in those guests.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 05:21 PM (TN0g+)
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Try sleeping in a friend's guest room with a king cobra in it. Yeah, it was caged. But still.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (4IClK)
People who keep cobras don't qualify to be my friend. It's in the small print. Easy to overlook.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 05:17 PM (4IClK)
People who keep cobras don't qualify to be my friend. It's in the small print. Easy to overlook.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 05:21 PM (CzMNg)
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323 "magic dirt theory" had to google that......
Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 05:20 PM (IlL6s)
Some women get pica when pregnant and start eating their adobe homes...literally eating themselves out of house and home. I'd say that dirt must be "magical"...
Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 05:20 PM (IlL6s)
Some women get pica when pregnant and start eating their adobe homes...literally eating themselves out of house and home. I'd say that dirt must be "magical"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:21 PM (ynpvh)
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I just pray not to end up in the Mayan Afterlife. There is a reason beyond force that made the Mayans convert to Catholicism quickly. Unless you were royal, the Mayan afterlife sucked llama balls.
Posted by: toby928
I thought the Mayans were kaput before discovery of the New World.
Posted by: toby928
I thought the Mayans were kaput before discovery of the New World.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM (/lPRQ)
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"Adam Carolla should be the #1 podcaster imo. He's much smarter and funnier than Rogan . I think he is a good interviewer also.
Posted by: polynikes "
The whole Rogan phenomena is a total mystery to me.
Corolla is batter than any of them. Not perfect of course.
Posted by: polynikes "
The whole Rogan phenomena is a total mystery to me.
Corolla is batter than any of them. Not perfect of course.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM (fV+MH)
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I think a lot of lefties end up believing in some form of Gnosticism. Basically that the Christian God is an imperfect being who is sort of evil and that all of reality is therefore evil and needs to be destroyed.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 15, 2025 05:23 PM (nAS9C)
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Dang, am I sad I missed the California land conversion thread!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
*shoulder shimmy*
*milking a cow hand motions*
*shit eating grin*
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
*shoulder shimmy*
*milking a cow hand motions*
*shit eating grin*
Posted by: Gavin Newsom at July 15, 2025 05:23 PM (UjdFS)
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I thought the Mayans were kaput before discovery of the New World.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM
The Mayan Empire was, not the people.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM
The Mayan Empire was, not the people.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:23 PM (jc0TO)
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331 I just pray not to end up in the Mayan Afterlife. There is a reason beyond force that made the Mayans convert to Catholicism quickly. Unless you were royal, the Mayan afterlife sucked llama balls.
Posted by: toby928
I thought the Mayans were kaput before discovery of the New World.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM (/lPRQ)
Their empire was, but they weren't. Still lots of Maya in Mexico and Central America.
Posted by: toby928
I thought the Mayans were kaput before discovery of the New World.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM (/lPRQ)
Their empire was, but they weren't. Still lots of Maya in Mexico and Central America.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:23 PM (ynpvh)
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Rogan's value is in his guest list. And his ability to show genuine interest in those guests.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 05:21 PM (TN0g+)
Rogan's much smarter than the character he plays on the podcast. He's very good at getting people comfortable enough to have an actual conversation, and it doesn't (usually) feel forced and he is not one of those "gotcha question" type interviewers.
Not many people can pull that off.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 05:21 PM (TN0g+)
Rogan's much smarter than the character he plays on the podcast. He's very good at getting people comfortable enough to have an actual conversation, and it doesn't (usually) feel forced and he is not one of those "gotcha question" type interviewers.
Not many people can pull that off.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 05:23 PM (uCjyK)
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333 I think a lot of lefties end up believing in some form of Gnosticism. Basically that the Christian God is an imperfect being who is sort of evil and that all of reality is therefore evil and needs to be destroyed.
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They will just love submitting to Allah then.
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They will just love submitting to Allah then.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 05:23 PM (ctrM5)
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332 "Adam Carolla should be the #1 podcaster imo. He's much smarter and funnier than Rogan . I think he is a good interviewer also.
Posted by: polynikes "
The whole Rogan phenomena is a total mystery to me.
Corolla is batter than any of them. Not perfect of course.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM (fV+MH)
I prefer the Camry.
Posted by: polynikes "
The whole Rogan phenomena is a total mystery to me.
Corolla is batter than any of them. Not perfect of course.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 05:22 PM (fV+MH)
I prefer the Camry.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:24 PM (ynpvh)
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Rogan brings on people that are of interest for some reason and then mostly lets them talk about whatever that point of interest is.
It is interviewing 101, but just by doing that he's way better then almost any interviewer in the FNM.
It is interviewing 101, but just by doing that he's way better then almost any interviewer in the FNM.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 05:24 PM (t0Rmr)
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The Mayans, Aztecs, and Inca were all basically the same thing.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 05:24 PM (fV+MH)
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I think a lot of lefties end up believing in some form of Gnosticism. Basically that the Christian God is an imperfect being who is sort of evil and that all of reality is therefore evil and needs to be destroyed.
Really? So who is the authority on what is Evil and what is not? And who decides what the penalty for evil is, such where destruction is also within their authority and sphere of responsibility?
Really? So who is the authority on what is Evil and what is not? And who decides what the penalty for evil is, such where destruction is also within their authority and sphere of responsibility?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 15, 2025 05:24 PM (U4c/V)
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342 The Mayans, Aztecs, and Inca were all basically the same thing.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 05:24 PM (fV+MH)
Just like the French, Germans, and English.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 05:24 PM (fV+MH)
Just like the French, Germans, and English.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 15, 2025 05:25 PM (ynpvh)
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The chances of life forming out of random combination of chemicals is calculated by some as 10^40,000, To have that happen more than once has to be near impossible. I don't care how many stars there are. Having a clockmaker changes those odds.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 05:25 PM (VofaG)
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He's at the Glenn Beck circa 2016 stage of self-destruction.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:38 PM (6ydKt)
Did anyone see his show, where he was yelling about his treatment for his hemorrhoids? He had them removed and went totally wacko on the anesthesia or something. I guess because of his history of booze?
I have never seen anything like his raving and ranting. You'd think he had them removed with rusty fence cutters behind a dumpster by a hobo. His people, I guess including his wife, allowed him to show this film when he was under anesthesia. There was weeping and snot. Raving about lawsuits.
I was a bit stunned then laughed. Never took him seriously again. What normal person does this?
I once saw a UFO in early college. But I was pretty wasted and making out with a guy in my car. I just stared at it: as big as a football field, glowing green, silent, and landing below us. He freaked out and was a bit hysterical and said, "Let's GO!" I did patch out. Never spoke to him or anyone else about it for over 20yrs. But he saw it, too.
He's at the Glenn Beck circa 2016 stage of self-destruction.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:38 PM (6ydKt)
Did anyone see his show, where he was yelling about his treatment for his hemorrhoids? He had them removed and went totally wacko on the anesthesia or something. I guess because of his history of booze?
I have never seen anything like his raving and ranting. You'd think he had them removed with rusty fence cutters behind a dumpster by a hobo. His people, I guess including his wife, allowed him to show this film when he was under anesthesia. There was weeping and snot. Raving about lawsuits.
I was a bit stunned then laughed. Never took him seriously again. What normal person does this?
I once saw a UFO in early college. But I was pretty wasted and making out with a guy in my car. I just stared at it: as big as a football field, glowing green, silent, and landing below us. He freaked out and was a bit hysterical and said, "Let's GO!" I did patch out. Never spoke to him or anyone else about it for over 20yrs. But he saw it, too.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 05:25 PM (6PCLE)
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The Mayan Empire was, not the people.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:23 PM (jc0TO)
A Mayan woman tried to sell me a churro on the express platform at 125th st yesterday.
They're definitely still around.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 05:23 PM (jc0TO)
A Mayan woman tried to sell me a churro on the express platform at 125th st yesterday.
They're definitely still around.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 05:25 PM (uCjyK)
As Predicted, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass are Refusing to Allow People to Rebuild Their Houses in the Pallisades.
The Plan is to Starve Them Out and Offer Them Pennies on the Dollar for Their Property, to Build Low-Income Apartments.
Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass promised Californians who lost their homes in their engineered firestorm that there would be reduced red-tape to allow reconstruction to begin within weeks.
More than six months later, not a single home has been rebuilt. In fact, not a single construction has even started. People suspected that Newsom and Bass would not let this crisis go to waste and would seize people's property in order to build apartment buildings for the poor. That's exactly what they're doing. They're refusing to grant permits to let people rebuild, so that their multimillion-dollar properties become effectively valueless. Then they're going to offer peanuts to buy these distressed, deliberately-impoverished landowners out.Right Angle News NetworkBeege Wellborne wrote about this last week. Adam Carolla predicted this. (Video below the fold). Beege Wellborne writes: "You knew he was right."
@Rightanglenews BREAKING - The California Senate has passed SB 549, granting LA County authority to purchase fire‑destroyed lots for minimal cost and convert them into low‑income housing, directly contradicting Gavin Newsom's previous assurance to homeowners that such government‑driven property conversions wouldn't happen.
Read the whole thing.
That sick feeling only grew as months passed. The empty words of a nervous-as-a-cat Bass, defensively deflecting Donald Trump's directions to make residents as whole as possible as soon as possible, hang in the air still. In hard-hit Altadena alone, the rebuilding process six months later is sucking the lives and hope out of people. And every dime they ever had.Soil sampling is now required, and that tacks another $5000-$8000 onto the process. The very long and tedious process, which is beginning to look as if it's specifically designed to soak as much money out of the homeowner as possible before they give up in disgust and move elsewhere. There have been only an unconscionable 44 building permits approved in LA County since the fires.
...Addressing the concerns of homeowners at a recent community meeting, Barger told them, "You have lost so much, you shouldn't have to worry about permitting fees getting in the way of rebuilding your home. For most families, these fees may have exceeded $20,000. That's a barrier we cannot allow to stand." The deferral of fees only applies to people who lived in their own single-family homes before the fire. It does not apply to non-owner-occupied rental properties, multi-family housing units or commercial structures. The county estimates that if 60% of homeowners in Altadena and elsewhere in unincorporated Palisades rebuild, it would amount to $84 million in building permit fees. Permitting is only one hurdle. For most, state and local building codes have changed in the decades since many of these homes were originally built, meaning the house has to have changes and extras that insurance covering a like-to-like rebuild does not account for. "It adds expenses that we didn't expect. Like, solar is required on all new builds, and so is the easement from the property line. It's got to be five feet now and ours was only three," says Toomey, as she stands under a backyard oak tree that survived. "And insurance doesn't pay for that stuff. That's on us," Silvernail adds....But the process is still slow. As of midday July 1, 2025, the LA County Permitting Progress Dashboard showed 890 rebuild applications in the Eaton Fire area, but only 44 building permits have been issued, taking an average turnaround of about 10 weeks to get through the process. And speed matters. A survey of fire victims found that the longer it takes to rebuild, the more likely it is people won't move back. "So even folks that fully intend to move back today, if this process, either through permitting or financing or insurance, takes more than three years, the percentage of people that want to move back drops to like 50%," Kawahara says.Those are the single-family homeowners' travails. Back in February, I wrote about a new Los Angeles ordinance that had come into effect, requiring low-income housing to be erected, replacing apartment buildings that were lost. What that meant to fire victims who'd lost their rental homes was they might never have a home to return to if the landlord rebuilt their building and they now earned too much to make the qualifications for the low-income threshold. In effect, LA County would be making them homeless.
Monday morning over six months after the fire and zero work. No trucks no crews no materials pic.twitter.com/BlUrhsFT26
— Adam Carolla (@adamcarolla) July 14, 2025
Adam Corolla: Gavin Newsom is a 'Sociopath' who doesn't even know who he is.
— Joni Job (@jj_talking) July 14, 2025
Weakness masquerading as strength. 🎯 pic.twitter.com/LvmIk0JhvF
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I am not shocked by this news.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)
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I told the others.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)
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The leftoids will be forced out of their homes into smaller condos.
They'll blame Trump/Climate Change/"Rightwing extremists Republicans" and they'll vote for the same Democrats that did this to them.
They'll blame Trump/Climate Change/"Rightwing extremists Republicans" and they'll vote for the same Democrats that did this to them.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (t0Rmr)
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"But...we're fairly well off Democrats! None of this shit was supposed to touch us! I guess we'll just have to vote for more Democrats to fix this!"
-former residents of the Palisades
-former residents of the Palisades
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (GBKbO)
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But the weather!!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (63Dwl)
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and so it continues
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's continuing at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (jc0TO)
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California is run by evil.
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not kill at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (gxokI)
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The conspiracy theorists get lucky again!
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (Qr870)
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Absolutely the best part of all this will be if Trump manages to get rid of a significant fraction of the illegals so that there aren't any people to live in the apartments they're building on the land which used to be owned by the people who voted for them.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 03:02 PM (ExV1e)
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Now if you are a member of the inner party they wouldn't let the fires touch you - you get competent government.
The outer party sometimes will as well.
But run of the mill lefty voters? Sorry people your properties are the eggs they needed to make their immigrant omelet.
The outer party sometimes will as well.
But run of the mill lefty voters? Sorry people your properties are the eggs they needed to make their immigrant omelet.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:02 PM (t0Rmr)
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When this fire happened, a friend of mine from CA said "they allowed this fire to burn, they purposely left the reservoirs empty and let nature take its course because they wanted to bulldoze all of that land to build new low income housing and push out the upper middle class people who live there." He also heavily insinuated there was a racial angle to it.
Sounded nuts at the time, but uh... Hmmm.
Sounded nuts at the time, but uh... Hmmm.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (uCjyK)
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8 The conspiracy theorists get lucky again!
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (Qr870)
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I thought that the governments in CA would bulldoze all regulation to appease a donor base by getting their houses rebuilt as fast as possible.
But...I was very wrong.
They don't give enough money to the Democrat Party, it seems, to matter. Probably should fix this by just giving more.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (Qr870)
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I thought that the governments in CA would bulldoze all regulation to appease a donor base by getting their houses rebuilt as fast as possible.
But...I was very wrong.
They don't give enough money to the Democrat Party, it seems, to matter. Probably should fix this by just giving more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)
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fascinating to find out who those lucky 44 permit holders are ... & who they are related to.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (dKEEs)
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The only pictures I've ever seen of Karen Bass if of her smiling. Even if it's not good news for residents of LA, she's smiling. It's the same with Osama Bin Lenin. Always smiling. In a politician this does not inspire me with confidence.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (2GCMq)
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"People suspected that Newsom and Bass would not let this crisis go to waste and would seize people's property in order to build apartment buildings for the poor."
I agree with the first part, but not the second. The most desirable properties will be "seized" on the cheap, but not for apartment buildings. They will be seized (or rather bought out) by corrupt big-donor developers to build even bigger and grander homes for even richer people.
I agree with the first part, but not the second. The most desirable properties will be "seized" on the cheap, but not for apartment buildings. They will be seized (or rather bought out) by corrupt big-donor developers to build even bigger and grander homes for even richer people.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (iFTx/)
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Then they're going to offer peanuts to buy these distressed, deliberately-impoverished landowners out.
Isn't this how Crassus became the richest man in Rome?
Isn't this how Crassus became the richest man in Rome?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (jc0TO)
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I see the Dems voted on something to release the Epstein files in the Senate.
They had 4 years to do this under the Junta and nada.
Now if Trump wanted to maximize this he'd wait until every prominent Dem comes out and says "release all the files" and then do so...
If a bunch of information was destroyed under the Junta says so. If some of the information is controlled by NYS judges...says so.
But the current line isn't helping
They had 4 years to do this under the Junta and nada.
Now if Trump wanted to maximize this he'd wait until every prominent Dem comes out and says "release all the files" and then do so...
If a bunch of information was destroyed under the Junta says so. If some of the information is controlled by NYS judges...says so.
But the current line isn't helping
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (t0Rmr)
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13 fascinating to find out who those lucky 44 permit holders are ... & who they are related to.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (dKEEs)
Ooh, that's small fries compared to the developers who will make a fucking killing on this.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (dKEEs)
Ooh, that's small fries compared to the developers who will make a fucking killing on this.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (uCjyK)
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If it were me, I'd take my insurance check and hightail it for a red state.
Then again, if it were me, I'd have hightailed it for a red state 50 years ago.
Then again, if it were me, I'd have hightailed it for a red state 50 years ago.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (qpyNK)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)
The only thing lefties hate more than righties are other lefties. The dirty secret of Communism is its more transactional than Capitalism.
The only thing lefties hate more than righties are other lefties. The dirty secret of Communism is its more transactional than Capitalism.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (Qr870)
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I feel horrible for these people knowing what it's like to have your living situation jacked around for 6 months personally.
Of course, I didn't vote for crap like that either but still.
Of course, I didn't vote for crap like that either but still.
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 11.1% at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (jvJvP)
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It’s almost like that empty reservoir was part of the plan.
Posted by: EveR at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (rdF17)
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Behold, your 15-minute city. Foisted upon you by the exact same people who TOLD YOU they were going to foist them upon you.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (fCgdX)
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Remember when DJT attended a round-table meeting with Bass and her stooges shortly after the fires were snuffed? The President extracted a promise from the mayor that she would fast-track the permit process to help the homeowners rebuild on their properties. He said to her face that he didn't believe her, but he hoped it would happen.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (rj6Yv)
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CA residents voted for this........
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (g8Ew8)
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If a bunch of information was destroyed under the Junta says so. If some of the information is controlled by NYS judges...says so.
But the current line isn't helping
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (t0Rmr)
It's easy. Fuck the judges, fuck the FBI, and fuck the DOJ.
Trump can pick up the phone and call Tulsi Gabbard and tell her to march her Hawaiian ass over to Langley have make the CIA turn over everything they have, then release that.
That's where the real info will be. The important stuff, like who was funding / controlling Epstein, who was targeted for this honey pot, how it worked, etc. The FBI almost definitely does not have that information.
But the current line isn't helping
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (t0Rmr)
It's easy. Fuck the judges, fuck the FBI, and fuck the DOJ.
Trump can pick up the phone and call Tulsi Gabbard and tell her to march her Hawaiian ass over to Langley have make the CIA turn over everything they have, then release that.
That's where the real info will be. The important stuff, like who was funding / controlling Epstein, who was targeted for this honey pot, how it worked, etc. The FBI almost definitely does not have that information.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (uCjyK)
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When this fire happened, a friend of mine from CA said "they allowed this fire to burn, they purposely left the reservoirs empty and let nature take its course because they wanted to bulldoze all of that land to build new low income housing
I think the amount the left uses willful incompetence to get things they couldn't get otherwise is significant.
This is pretty clearly one of those times.
Who needs to do the Crassus thing when you can just put a bunch of DEI types in charge of fire prevention in areas you want destroyed?
I think the amount the left uses willful incompetence to get things they couldn't get otherwise is significant.
This is pretty clearly one of those times.
Who needs to do the Crassus thing when you can just put a bunch of DEI types in charge of fire prevention in areas you want destroyed?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (t0Rmr)
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Evilcrats.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (fV+MH)
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They brought this on themselves. They voted for these charlatans. They let Karen Bass stay in office after the event took place when they should tarred and feathered her and her administration. They found the energy to harass ICE but not Karen Bass and her minions. They bought their ticket.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (TN0g+)
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If ever there was an example of "they voted for this," this is likely it. I'm willing to hear out people who voted differently, but the stereotypical Californian affected by this? No one has that much empathy.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (srdUp)
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Newsom 2028 !!!
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (v0R5T)
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When this fire happened, a friend of mine from CA said "they allowed this fire to burn, they purposely left the reservoirs empty and let nature take its course because they wanted to bulldoze all of that land to build new low income housing and push out the upper middle class people who live there." He also heavily insinuated there was a racial angle to it.
Sounded nuts at the time, but uh... Hmmm.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (uCjyK)
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I think they're pushing out the middle class to make room for richer people (who happen to be nice fat donors), but regardless the middle class is getting fucked.
Sounded nuts at the time, but uh... Hmmm.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (uCjyK)
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I think they're pushing out the middle class to make room for richer people (who happen to be nice fat donors), but regardless the middle class is getting fucked.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (fFOKU)
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The california representatives of the high table want him for preezy. The Chicago members got their way with Obama and Biden.
Posted by: Where is John Wick when you need him at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (luH9j)
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CA residents voted for this........
Residents yes. I'm not convinced the majority of the citizens voted for this stuff though.
I think the recall election showed just how fake CA vote totals are
Residents yes. I'm not convinced the majority of the citizens voted for this stuff though.
I think the recall election showed just how fake CA vote totals are
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (t0Rmr)
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When this fire happened, a friend of mine from CA said "they allowed this fire to burn, they purposely left the reservoirs empty and let nature take its course because they wanted to bulldoze all of that land to build new low income housing
I think the amount the left uses willful incompetence to get things they couldn't get otherwise is significant.
This is pretty clearly one of those times.
Who needs to do the Crassus thing when you can just put a bunch of DEI types in charge of fire prevention in areas you want destroyed?
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Yep, the reservoirs being empty was incompetence. What they did afterwards was willful.
I think the amount the left uses willful incompetence to get things they couldn't get otherwise is significant.
This is pretty clearly one of those times.
Who needs to do the Crassus thing when you can just put a bunch of DEI types in charge of fire prevention in areas you want destroyed?
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Yep, the reservoirs being empty was incompetence. What they did afterwards was willful.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (TN0g+)
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The illegals will probably love the area too....
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 11.1% at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (jvJvP)
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Her Excellency, Madam Kimberly Guilfoyle, Ambassador to Greece is set to announce her new book "Leaving Little Gavin, a Collection of Short Stories".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (gm9Sb)
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I do not understand Californians at all. I would be marching on Sacramento if this pyscho pulled this shit on me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (viF8m)
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40 I do not understand Californians at all. I would be marching on Sacramento if this pyscho pulled this shit on me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (viF8m)
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If only Comrade Newsom knew!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (viF8m)
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If only Comrade Newsom knew!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)
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I think they're pushing out the middle class to make room for richer people (who happen to be nice fat donors), but regardless the middle class is getting fucked.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (iFTx/)
Well, of course the prime real estate will be resurrected bigger and better than ever for the "right people."
But I'm sure a big chunk will go to illegal immigrants and others as well.
Deals will be made.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (iFTx/)
Well, of course the prime real estate will be resurrected bigger and better than ever for the "right people."
But I'm sure a big chunk will go to illegal immigrants and others as well.
Deals will be made.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (uCjyK)
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I do not understand Californians at all. I would be marching on Sacramento if this pyscho pulled this shit on me.
To pull a line from the Simpsons...
Government employee: I said I couldn't help you, I didn't say I couldn't hurt you
To pull a line from the Simpsons...
Government employee: I said I couldn't help you, I didn't say I couldn't hurt you
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (t0Rmr)
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On one hand, this is terrible and unjust.. I feel bad for the few decent Americans impacted by this. On the other hand, two-thirds of these people voted for this, and smaller proportions protested for this, rioted for this, contributed for this, shilled for this, or alienated friends and family for this, so f*ck 'em. They can fix it themselves, or let it be a warning for the rest of the nation. Sorry, Adam
Posted by: Disappointed Idealist at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (4K1AM)
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Incredibly sad.
I would go ballistic, like John Beluchi, Samurai Swordsman. And gather all my wealthy friends to do the same.
It would be one thing to say, "No building on that spit of land next to the beach, let it go natural, yada, blada, organic, save the whales."
And I personally would not want to live right next to my neighbors and the busy road behind me. But each of those home owners should be able to rebuild, no doubt at higher costs and insurance.
This is America, dammit!
I really hope the people rise up and fight! Put down your bongs and get this done!
Instead: cheap housing for the poors? That's a great move, seeing as how it was rumored that the homeless isane druggies started the fires!
Outrageous. But not surprised.
I would go ballistic, like John Beluchi, Samurai Swordsman. And gather all my wealthy friends to do the same.
It would be one thing to say, "No building on that spit of land next to the beach, let it go natural, yada, blada, organic, save the whales."
And I personally would not want to live right next to my neighbors and the busy road behind me. But each of those home owners should be able to rebuild, no doubt at higher costs and insurance.
This is America, dammit!
I really hope the people rise up and fight! Put down your bongs and get this done!
Instead: cheap housing for the poors? That's a great move, seeing as how it was rumored that the homeless isane druggies started the fires!
Outrageous. But not surprised.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (6PCLE)
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Not saying it happened but what if Trump rope a doped Democrats into caring about Epstein?
Of course what's really happening is Democrats think they "got 'im", it's all a show they have no intention of letting this stuff ever see the light of day.
It's like Republicans voting 12 times to repeal ObamaCare. Uh-huh.
Of course what's really happening is Democrats think they "got 'im", it's all a show they have no intention of letting this stuff ever see the light of day.
It's like Republicans voting 12 times to repeal ObamaCare. Uh-huh.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (Qr870)
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Section 8 housing next to Multi-million dollar homes is now the California dream.
Do it and watch the crime rates increase......
Do it and watch the crime rates increase......
Posted by: Allotta Fagina at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (BltCC)
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Hair Gel and Bass Mouth will congratulate themselves on building "affordable housing".
They'll be nowhere to be found when it becomes Cabrini Green by the Sea.
They'll be nowhere to be found when it becomes Cabrini Green by the Sea.
Posted by: kbdabear at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (zBOzm)
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It would be one thing to say, "No building on that spit of land next to the beach, let it go natural, yada, blada, organic, save the whales."
Now the way that one works is if you are inner party or willing to pay as a member of the outer party you still get your house on the beach.
But it is a good way to confine the area to those that are connected.
It would be one thing to say, "No building on that spit of land next to the beach, let it go natural, yada, blada, organic, save the whales."
Now the way that one works is if you are inner party or willing to pay as a member of the outer party you still get your house on the beach.
But it is a good way to confine the area to those that are connected.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (t0Rmr)
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I think they're pushing out the middle class to make room for richer people (who happen to be nice fat donors), but regardless the middle class is getting fucked.
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There are wealth funds looking to glom on that real estate and the politicians are gonna get paid for facilitating. You are watching it happen. It will go on for years. Eventually Chinese billionaires will end up with some sweet land holdings on pac coast highway....
I think they're pushing out the middle class to make room for richer people (who happen to be nice fat donors), but regardless the middle class is getting fucked.
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There are wealth funds looking to glom on that real estate and the politicians are gonna get paid for facilitating. You are watching it happen. It will go on for years. Eventually Chinese billionaires will end up with some sweet land holdings on pac coast highway....
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (luH9j)
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Hey Cali Richie Rich?
Remember when you voted for this?
And we told you not to, that this is what you'd get?
And you whined, "but I can't vote Republican, they'll ban comic books of fags sucking dick and fingering assholes from the pre-school libraries!!"
Well.
Stew in your shit.
Remember when you voted for this?
And we told you not to, that this is what you'd get?
And you whined, "but I can't vote Republican, they'll ban comic books of fags sucking dick and fingering assholes from the pre-school libraries!!"
Well.
Stew in your shit.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (Jw2IK)
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I'd like to know what the rich and famous that lost their homes have to say about all this. Do they get some sort of special dispensation?
Because they'd be the likely ones to bitch about not being able to build back.
The others? Yea, appears tough shit for you.
Because they'd be the likely ones to bitch about not being able to build back.
The others? Yea, appears tough shit for you.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (Q4IgG)
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"They're refusing to grant permits to let people rebuild, so that their multimillion-dollar properties become effectively valueless."
These people are probably 90% hard left Democraps. These people overwhelmingly despise people like me. These people overwhelmingly want to see me dead.
Fuck these people through the dick with acid-laced 40-grit sandpaper and then kick them repeatedly in the nuts with ice hockey skates. Repeat until they pass out from pain. Wait them up and repeat.
These people are probably 90% hard left Democraps. These people overwhelmingly despise people like me. These people overwhelmingly want to see me dead.
Fuck these people through the dick with acid-laced 40-grit sandpaper and then kick them repeatedly in the nuts with ice hockey skates. Repeat until they pass out from pain. Wait them up and repeat.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (iFTx/)
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Maybe one final attempt to recall Newscum will finally deliver him an electoral defeat.
I think the California state GOP would be up to the task.
I think the California state GOP would be up to the task.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (5yDGQ)
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30 If ever there was an example of "they voted for this," this is likely it. I'm willing to hear out people who voted differently, but the stereotypical Californian affected by this? No one has that much empathy.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (srdUp)
Nearly 50% of California residents are either foreign born, or the children of at least one immigrant.
So I don't know how much we can truly blame the upper class white people who were either accidentally or purposely displaced and who will have their neighborhoods bulldozed and replaced by a smattering of mega mansions for Chinese billionaires and slums for our lawn mowing amigos.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (srdUp)
Nearly 50% of California residents are either foreign born, or the children of at least one immigrant.
So I don't know how much we can truly blame the upper class white people who were either accidentally or purposely displaced and who will have their neighborhoods bulldozed and replaced by a smattering of mega mansions for Chinese billionaires and slums for our lawn mowing amigos.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (uCjyK)
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Not saying it happened but what if Trump rope a doped Democrats into caring about Epstein?
It would be a smart play...we'll see if that is his strategy I guess.
But right now I see the same leftists arguing Epstein was a hoax and there was never anything to it now arguing Trump is/was an Epstein client.
Amazing how their minds work
It would be a smart play...we'll see if that is his strategy I guess.
But right now I see the same leftists arguing Epstein was a hoax and there was never anything to it now arguing Trump is/was an Epstein client.
Amazing how their minds work
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (t0Rmr)
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>> I do not understand Californians at all. I would be marching on Sacramento if this pyscho pulled this shit on me.
They built it. It’s their monster. All the politicians involved will be reelected. There won’t be any change in the legislature.
They built it. It’s their monster. All the politicians involved will be reelected. There won’t be any change in the legislature.
Posted by: Vengeance at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (mVMuD)
57
"The leftoids will be forced out of their homes into smaller condos.
Posted by: 18-1"
Which is better than what they deserve, which is a tiny house or stacked shipping crate apartment hey were trying to make a thing.
Posted by: 18-1"
Which is better than what they deserve, which is a tiny house or stacked shipping crate apartment hey were trying to make a thing.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (GUOwU)
58
Not a dime of federal aid, please. I would rather my tax money be wasted on the Ukraine or an Iranian nuke.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (wBaIH)
59
The only pictures I've ever seen of Karen Bass if of her smiling. Even if it's not good news for residents of LA, she's smiling. It's the same with Osama Bin Lenin. Always smiling. In a politician this does not inspire me with confidence.
'Smiling Hans' Kesselring enters the chat.
'Smiling Hans' Kesselring enters the chat.
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (GYt5+)
60
Time to declare the entire state of California is in a state of insurrection perhaps?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (fFOKU)
61
SUCKERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Gav Newsome at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (q/j2W)
62
These members of the Communist Elite are now getting what's called 'Experience'. And everybody knows that 'Experience' is what you get when you don't get what you want'.
Posted by: Dr_No at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (ayRl+)
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directly contradicting Gavin Newsom's previous assurance to homeowners that such government‑driven property conversions wouldn't happen.
The voters of Cali woke up with a whore because they went to bed with a whore.
The voters of Cali woke up with a whore because they went to bed with a whore.
Posted by: Carl Fox at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (5yGIt)
64
Eventually Chinese billionaires will end up with some sweet land holdings on pac coast highway....
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (luH9j)
Yup.
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (luH9j)
Yup.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (g8Ew8)
65
The ocean view, blocked by a couple low rider Monte Carlos with "Los Diablo" decals on the rear window. Cheech and Raoul sitting on the hoods, drinking Modelos.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)
66
I agree with the first part, but not the second. The most desirable properties will be "seized" on the cheap, but not for apartment buildings. They will be seized (or rather bought out) by corrupt big-donor developers to build even bigger and grander homes for even richer people.
LA has a plan on the books to become a fully WEF compliant "15 minute city". The fire area would be a great place to set up one 15-minute ring.
LA has a plan on the books to become a fully WEF compliant "15 minute city". The fire area would be a great place to set up one 15-minute ring.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (2ocoG)
67
Time to declare the entire state of California is in a state of insurrection perhaps?
If the governor of CA in 1942 was trying to bring in and protect "Japanese undocumented immigrants" how would FDR have handled it?
That is what Trump should do...
If the governor of CA in 1942 was trying to bring in and protect "Japanese undocumented immigrants" how would FDR have handled it?
That is what Trump should do...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (t0Rmr)
68
Democrats care about Epstein, trannies and illegal immigrants. Let that sink in. That’s their constituency.
Posted by: Vengeance at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (mVMuD)
69
Peopl not from California dn't realize that Pacific Palisades was and is one of the prime spots for real estate in the entire nation. It's one of the few places in L.A. that has spectacular ocean views, and also has the best air quality in L:A as well. And even so, it is extremely close to all the "action" (to the extent you'd want to be near the action in L.A. these days), just steps from Santa Monica, West Hollywood,S unset Blvd., most of the movie studios, near the airport, etc. T top it all off, most of the houses there were mansions or near-mansions, built in the 1920s with master craftsmanship. If I could have chosen anywhere in Sothern Caifornia to live, it would have been Pacific Palisades.
But it is exactly all these reasons why the left hates it and wants it destroyed.
But it is exactly all these reasons why the left hates it and wants it destroyed.
Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (pMi6S)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (fFOKU)
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Trump needs to sign an executive order declaring California a territory with the same rights as Puerto Rico....
Posted by: Buster Hymand at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (q/j2W)
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70 Peopl not from California dn't realize that Pacific Palisades was and is one of the prime spots for real estate in the entire nation. It's one of the few places in L.A. that has spectacular ocean views, and also has the best air quality in L:A as well. And even so, it is extremely close to all the "action" (to the extent you'd want to be near the action in L.A. these days), just steps from Santa Monica, West Hollywood,S unset Blvd., most of the movie studios, near the airport, etc. T top it all off, most of the houses there were mansions or near-mansions, built in the 1920s with master craftsmanship. If I could have chosen anywhere in Sothern Caifornia to live, it would have been Pacific Palisades.
But it is exactly all these reasons why the left hates it and wants it destroyed.
Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (pMi6S)
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"I can't believe this leopard is eating my face!"
-person who voted for the leopards eating my face party
But it is exactly all these reasons why the left hates it and wants it destroyed.
Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (pMi6S)
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"I can't believe this leopard is eating my face!"
-person who voted for the leopards eating my face party
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm surprised that they're surprised they are being required to rebuild to current codes. Anyone with an older property should know that their replacement cost coverage needs to account for that.
Posted by: Bigsmith at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (1Au9i)
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66 The ocean view, blocked by a couple low rider Monte Carlos with "Los Diablo" decals on the rear window. Cheech and Raoul sitting on the hoods, drinking Modelos.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)
Sounds like a fun day at the beach.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)
Sounds like a fun day at the beach.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (uCjyK)
76
Isn't this how Crassus became the richest man in Rome?
Posted by: toby928
With a hint of Nero's urban renewal method.
Posted by: toby928
With a hint of Nero's urban renewal method.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (L/fGl)
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I can't believe the people who locked everyone in their homes for years, arrested them for going alone to parks and the beach while bearing secret responsibility for the deaths of millions including healthy elderly they trapped inside death camps with the virulent and contagious for no reason and who promised a chemical cure for all of it, that ended up in many cases far worse than the disease they created in the first place, would do this!!
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (Qr870)
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I think the California state GOP would be up to the task.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (5yDGQ)
I wouldn't let those corrupt, incompetent asses in the CA GOPe be Assistant Night Manager at a Compton Taco Bell
I think the California state GOP would be up to the task.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (5yDGQ)
I wouldn't let those corrupt, incompetent asses in the CA GOPe be Assistant Night Manager at a Compton Taco Bell
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Gavin Newsom at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (luH9j)
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I wouldn't let those corrupt, incompetent asses in the CA GOPe be Assistant Night Manager at a Compton Taco Bell
Food quality might improve.
Food quality might improve.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (fFOKU)
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Wonder if someone is gonna find a way to take this lack of permitting to a federal court (b/c it's an auto-loser in a CA court)...equal protection meets the takings clause?
If I was a pricey lawyer who wanted to stick it to CA (and I'm one of those who lost my home), I'd start trying some novel legal theories, especially using what the idiot polticos have said themselves...
If I was a pricey lawyer who wanted to stick it to CA (and I'm one of those who lost my home), I'd start trying some novel legal theories, especially using what the idiot polticos have said themselves...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (tOcjL)
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Hopefully, Oprah will be able to buy up a lot of property like she did in Hawaii so she can build lots of low income housing for her friends and family. Maybe she can give each one a new car too! This makes me so happy! I love Oprah! Being a resident of California since I came here illegally 30 years ago, I love this place!
Posted by: Graciela Marciela Madonna Rodriguez at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (rfMRc)
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Thus they can rename Pacific Palisades, Shithole-by-the-Sea.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (MZ+PY)
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The land of the free...
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (ERYKL)
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They happily voted for this, and I am happy they are getting what they voted for.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (XFYYr)
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Illegal takingI would think is a pretty accurate summation of these actions.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (fFOKU)
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Your periodic reminder that once the illegal population hit critical mass in the 90s, Cali elections have been faker than Pelosi's face shape. There is pretty substantial evidence that they cheat like hell, and don't even bother disguising it with toilet flushes.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (2ocoG)
89
The Hardering.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (jc0TO)
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I will feel sorry for any of the affected people who can prove they voted for President Trump.
Posted by: Weasel at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (mgRTg)
91
Those sites will make great "affordable housing" for all our border jumping newcomers as well as Chinese national "students." After all, they deserve that ocean view.
Posted by: brak at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (jGJov)
92
Yep, the reservoirs being empty was incompetence.
That was planned. Much better times of the year to drain for maintenance other than fire season.
That was planned. Much better times of the year to drain for maintenance other than fire season.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (4IClK)
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81 Yep, the reservoirs being empty was incompetence.
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This is an insult to the incompetent.
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (luH9j)
"Hey, how important do you think it is to make sure we have enough water pressure for all of the fire hydrants in this area, which is one of the most prone to wildfires areas of the world?"
"ehh... listen, the reservoir cover is broken. It's under warranty. We'll be fine leaving it empty for a few years."
"you sure?"
"it'll be fine, trust me!"
Yeah, I don't think that happened either. But maybe.
==
This is an insult to the incompetent.
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (luH9j)
"Hey, how important do you think it is to make sure we have enough water pressure for all of the fire hydrants in this area, which is one of the most prone to wildfires areas of the world?"
"ehh... listen, the reservoir cover is broken. It's under warranty. We'll be fine leaving it empty for a few years."
"you sure?"
"it'll be fine, trust me!"
Yeah, I don't think that happened either. But maybe.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (uCjyK)
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"Section 8 housing next to Multi-million dollar homes is now the California dream.
Posted by: Allotta Fagina"
Think of it a the 15 minute city. The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Allotta Fagina"
Think of it a the 15 minute city. The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (GUOwU)
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Steve Garvey must have connections to people who know rich people in the Palisades. He needs to reach out to them and promise to waive all permitting and let them rebuild in exchange for financial support for a gubernatorial bid.
Posted by: Keyser at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (9ZGzn)
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1 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)
Even less shocking would be it coming out that this was a targeted arson attack that was done to leverage property rights change. I strongly suspect that Hawaii was a defacto op. If only we had a Federal investigatory agency who was zealous in looking at who benefitted from arson-based disasters.
Arson should be a capital offense.
Even less shocking would be it coming out that this was a targeted arson attack that was done to leverage property rights change. I strongly suspect that Hawaii was a defacto op. If only we had a Federal investigatory agency who was zealous in looking at who benefitted from arson-based disasters.
Arson should be a capital offense.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (XFYYr)
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Seriously, isn't this being given way more attention than it deserves ... ? Let it go … they're getting what they voted for. It. Ain't. Our. Problem. ...
Posted by: Dr_No at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (ayRl+)
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I read that a fair number of those homes were rentals. So a ready-made population looking to rent is just waiting for their apartments. Too bad they'll likely be pushed aside for the illegals and indigents that will be settled in brand new section 8 high density apartments.
A brand new ghetto for the pols to glom onto.
A brand new ghetto for the pols to glom onto.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (fFOKU)
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93 Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (4IClK)
On the one hand they are idiots, on the other hand they are evil greedy cocksuckers who are idiots.
On the one hand they are idiots, on the other hand they are evil greedy cocksuckers who are idiots.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (XFYYr)
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The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM
That puts them within easy looting distance. I like my criminals at least a bus ride away.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM
That puts them within easy looting distance. I like my criminals at least a bus ride away.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (jc0TO)
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14 The only pictures I've ever seen of Karen Bass if of her smiling. Even if it's not good news for residents of LA, she's smiling. It's the same with Osama Bin Lenin. Always smiling. In a politician this does not inspire me with confidence.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (2GCMq)
The old southern expression "grinning like an egg-sucking dog" comes to mind
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (2GCMq)
The old southern expression "grinning like an egg-sucking dog" comes to mind
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (5xvZ1)
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>>I wouldn't let those corrupt, incompetent asses in the CA GOPe be Assistant Night Manager at a Compton Taco Bell
Well they won't be using Mexicans any longer.
>>@zerohedge
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>>5m
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens
Well they won't be using Mexicans any longer.
>>@zerohedge
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>>5m
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (viF8m)
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Sven Lives!
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (jc0TO)
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‘ Newsom and Bass would not let this crisis go to waste and would seize people's property in order to build apartment buildings for the poor.’
Once again, the democrats’ favorite farm animals benefit at everyone else’s expense. That should secure their votes ( and the penumbras of their votes) to the ‘Rats .
I can see why they vote for the socialists. Everyone else voting that way continues to baffle me.
Once again, the democrats’ favorite farm animals benefit at everyone else’s expense. That should secure their votes ( and the penumbras of their votes) to the ‘Rats .
I can see why they vote for the socialists. Everyone else voting that way continues to baffle me.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (jbnUc)
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100 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (fFOKU)
15 minute cities with the nearest police response 1 hour away.
//LA Noir
15 minute cities with the nearest police response 1 hour away.
//LA Noir
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (XFYYr)
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Being a victim of California and it's fire crap and building codes fuck that place.
At one time I wanted to retire there. Now I don't even want to go.
At one time I wanted to retire there. Now I don't even want to go.
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (lPvx2)
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In my blue state the locals voted for some feel good "low cost housing" initiative. Basically it lets the state force towns to build low income housing, but the towns ALSO have to approve it through a quirk of state law.
Well one of the wealthy blue towns near mine did so, congratulating themselves for it.
The state then seized their one and only fancy hotel where most big functions in the area where held and turned the land over to a politically connected developer that will tear down the hotel and build tenements for "newcomers".
The local lefties are shocked that this would happen. They just wanted cheaper housing...
Well one of the wealthy blue towns near mine did so, congratulating themselves for it.
The state then seized their one and only fancy hotel where most big functions in the area where held and turned the land over to a politically connected developer that will tear down the hotel and build tenements for "newcomers".
The local lefties are shocked that this would happen. They just wanted cheaper housing...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (t0Rmr)
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Let's be clear,
They are not going to build "low income" housing, they are going to use that as a feint to build luxury apartments and beachfront development where the developers make billions and kick back to the pols.
They are not going to build "low income" housing, they are going to use that as a feint to build luxury apartments and beachfront development where the developers make billions and kick back to the pols.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (S6/Nv)
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Don't think they thought this out when MS-13 is your neighbors.
Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom didn't think things out? I'm not sure they can think.
Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom didn't think things out? I'm not sure they can think.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (2ocoG)
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Climate Change is Driving Homelessness in California!
Posted by: The MSM at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (IChGZ)
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I strongly suspect that Hawaii was a defacto op. If only we had a Federal investigatory agency who was zealous in looking at who benefitted from arson-based disasters.
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Some of the "emergency response" should be investigated as well--there are reports that perfectly fine exit streets were blocked from use. The "perfectly fine" part was proven when some of those trapped drove AROUND the barriers and found nothing but safety awaiting ahead.
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Some of the "emergency response" should be investigated as well--there are reports that perfectly fine exit streets were blocked from use. The "perfectly fine" part was proven when some of those trapped drove AROUND the barriers and found nothing but safety awaiting ahead.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (TN0g+)
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The only pictures I've ever seen of Karen Bass if of her smiling.
Rumor has it she's going to be on the September cover of Bass Masters.
Rumor has it she's going to be on the September cover of Bass Masters.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (4IClK)
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Think of it a the 15 minute city. The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (GUOwU)
Sounds great to me! You keep your house slaves close to the plantation at all times, they have fewer excuses about having to bring their kids to the doctors or broken down cars or whatever nonsense they say.
Maybe you can even get a bus to bring them from their hovels to the mansion, which would further cut down on traffic while you're trying to get to LAX in the back of your limo.
Really, it's a win/ win.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (GUOwU)
Sounds great to me! You keep your house slaves close to the plantation at all times, they have fewer excuses about having to bring their kids to the doctors or broken down cars or whatever nonsense they say.
Maybe you can even get a bus to bring them from their hovels to the mansion, which would further cut down on traffic while you're trying to get to LAX in the back of your limo.
Really, it's a win/ win.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (uCjyK)
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Hopefully the fire response is faster than One Hour Photo.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (fFOKU)
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It's a way for Gavin to look smaht.
Yes, there's a 10ft hole in the roof. It's not about nuance.
It's about throwing so much BS into the air that hopefully people walk away and say to themselves: you know what? Maybe the gutters and facial do have something to do with the 10ft hole in the roof. It's to try and make you forget about the question because there was no answer.
Gavin is stupid. Start there and everything flows from that point.
Yes, there's a 10ft hole in the roof. It's not about nuance.
It's about throwing so much BS into the air that hopefully people walk away and say to themselves: you know what? Maybe the gutters and facial do have something to do with the 10ft hole in the roof. It's to try and make you forget about the question because there was no answer.
Gavin is stupid. Start there and everything flows from that point.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (JkCto)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (L/fGl)
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They are not going to build "low income" housing, they are going to use that as a feint to build luxury apartments and beachfront development where the developers make billions and kick back to the pols.
They're global warming true believers. It's gonna be brutalist concrete pods as far as the eye can see, and Klaus Schwab will christen it with his semen.
They're global warming true believers. It's gonna be brutalist concrete pods as far as the eye can see, and Klaus Schwab will christen it with his semen.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (2ocoG)
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Palisades overwhelmingly voted for Biden and Harris, hard to get too upset about all this
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (mjCXl)
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this all kinds of fucked up. As bad as Colorado is, after that New year's fire in Superior a few years ago, that took out a thousand houses, rebuilding commenced almost immediately.
I wonder if that would happen in CO now. they are catching up to California rapidly.
I wonder if that would happen in CO now. they are catching up to California rapidly.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (PSEDc)
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105 Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (jc0TO)
Barely, I am experimenting with making Proton based steam machines using all AMD parts. It will enable me to gift people Ryzen 1000 based gaming boxes using renewed 6600-6650xt graphics cards.
300% of a steamdeck's performance at ~ 2/3ds the price. Not portable but fun and able to be sized down to ~ a webster's dictionary sized console probably.
Barely, I am experimenting with making Proton based steam machines using all AMD parts. It will enable me to gift people Ryzen 1000 based gaming boxes using renewed 6600-6650xt graphics cards.
300% of a steamdeck's performance at ~ 2/3ds the price. Not portable but fun and able to be sized down to ~ a webster's dictionary sized console probably.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (XFYYr)
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Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (5xvZ1)
I've never heard that. It's quite a colorful expression. Thanks.
I've never heard that. It's quite a colorful expression. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (2GCMq)
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This is gonna happen in Seattle. Bank on it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (xcxpd)
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I'll bet it will have light rail.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (S6/Nv)
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One could fence in Pacific Palisades (for the protection of new residents), put in place a shit pot full of Sero Scotty Trailers, and set up bus service to Beverly Hills and Hollywood. You would never have to worry about illegals again, or your lawn, or the silver ware getting dull. It would be like summer camp, all year round.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (gm9Sb)
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>>>
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens
not my tacos and margaritas!!!
that's my favorite part of diversity!!!!!!!
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens
not my tacos and margaritas!!!
that's my favorite part of diversity!!!!!!!
Posted by: AWFLs at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (jGJov)
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"Hey, how important do you think it is to make sure we have enough water pressure for all of the fire hydrants in this area, which is one of the most prone to wildfires areas of the world?"
"ehh... listen, the reservoir cover is broken. It's under warranty. We'll be fine leaving it empty for a few years."
I suspect the second line is more like, "Well ok fine we'll get to that right after we get these diversity reports done. BTW I just signed up for a wine and painting class so I'll be leaving every day this month at 2 PM so...maybe we'll get to it in a couple years? And remember people don't kill the job!"
"Hey, how important do you think it is to make sure we have enough water pressure for all of the fire hydrants in this area, which is one of the most prone to wildfires areas of the world?"
"ehh... listen, the reservoir cover is broken. It's under warranty. We'll be fine leaving it empty for a few years."
I suspect the second line is more like, "Well ok fine we'll get to that right after we get these diversity reports done. BTW I just signed up for a wine and painting class so I'll be leaving every day this month at 2 PM so...maybe we'll get to it in a couple years? And remember people don't kill the job!"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (t0Rmr)
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Are you not cynical?
Posted by: Duncanthrax Maximus at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:25 PM (jc0TO)
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124 This is gonna happen in Seattle. Bank on it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (xcxpd)
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What?
It's gonna stop raining?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (xcxpd)
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What?
It's gonna stop raining?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)
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You know what would really fuck things up to massive entertainment?
If Trump says, "If a single apartment complex, a single multi-resident property or anything but single-occupancy, residential housing is ever planned there, I'm going to order ICE to exercise the federal eminent domain and seize it from the state for a detention center.
We're going to build a big, beautiful ICE facility right there.
There will never be an apartment in the Palisades."
If Trump says, "If a single apartment complex, a single multi-resident property or anything but single-occupancy, residential housing is ever planned there, I'm going to order ICE to exercise the federal eminent domain and seize it from the state for a detention center.
We're going to build a big, beautiful ICE facility right there.
There will never be an apartment in the Palisades."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 03:25 PM (Jw2IK)
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127 >>>
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens
not my tacos and margaritas!!!
that's my favorite part of diversity!!!!!!!
Posted by: AWFLs at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (jGJov)
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I remember how it wasn't real French crepes because Puerto Ricans were making it.
Rolled them too tight.
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens
not my tacos and margaritas!!!
that's my favorite part of diversity!!!!!!!
Posted by: AWFLs at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (jGJov)
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I remember how it wasn't real French crepes because Puerto Ricans were making it.
Rolled them too tight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
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To Live And Die In LA
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (viF8m)
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The ocean view, blocked by a couple low rider Monte Carlos with "Los Diablo" decals on the rear window. Cheech and Raoul sitting on the hoods, drinking Modelos.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)
On the other hand, snooty CA jackwagons have a well-deserved reputation for claiming that those beaches are their property and calling in either rent-a-cops or the actual Sheriff's Department to throw people off the beach. Even though all CA coastlines are claimed by the state and declared to be public lands.
I'd love to see the yootoob vid of some rich hippie Karen walking up to some beer-swilling MS-13 thugs and trying to kick them off the beach.
The ocean view, blocked by a couple low rider Monte Carlos with "Los Diablo" decals on the rear window. Cheech and Raoul sitting on the hoods, drinking Modelos.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)
On the other hand, snooty CA jackwagons have a well-deserved reputation for claiming that those beaches are their property and calling in either rent-a-cops or the actual Sheriff's Department to throw people off the beach. Even though all CA coastlines are claimed by the state and declared to be public lands.
I'd love to see the yootoob vid of some rich hippie Karen walking up to some beer-swilling MS-13 thugs and trying to kick them off the beach.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (y9nCu)
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113 Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (TN0g+)
Hence "op", I am thinking there is some group of billionaires that have decided the millionaires who were doing well in "paradise" in Hawaii and Cali need to go.
Like him or hate him Kurt Schlichter had Cali's future's number in his Kelly Turnbull series.
Hence "op", I am thinking there is some group of billionaires that have decided the millionaires who were doing well in "paradise" in Hawaii and Cali need to go.
Like him or hate him Kurt Schlichter had Cali's future's number in his Kelly Turnbull series.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (XFYYr)
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I sure hope a unhoused differently abled intellectually disabled person does not burn down whatever gets rebuilt there in the end. That would be sad.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (CzMNg)
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Seattle is in its own special Circle of Socialist Hell where the rain never ceases, and the city will fix the roof leaks in five years.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (fFOKU)
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In 1975 I rode on an airplane for the first time in my life when my family took a vacation to Disneyland. I was from the Midwest. California looked like a paradise. For the most part, it was.
Man, has it changed.
Man, has it changed.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (bNf8H)
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I agree with the first part, but not the second. The most desirable properties will be "seized" on the cheap, but not for apartment buildings. They will be seized (or rather bought out) by corrupt big-donor developers to build even bigger and grander homes for even richer people.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (iFTx/)
Yeah, I've no doubt they'll be building low income housing in the less desirable parts (probably built by big-donor development firms) but keep an eye on what else goes in the plum parts. They'll also need shopping, business dev, etc. There'll be whiplash from all the kickbacks.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (iFTx/)
Yeah, I've no doubt they'll be building low income housing in the less desirable parts (probably built by big-donor development firms) but keep an eye on what else goes in the plum parts. They'll also need shopping, business dev, etc. There'll be whiplash from all the kickbacks.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (8hxDK)
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The Plan is to Starve Them Out and Offer Them Pennies on the Dollar for Their Property, to Build Low-Income Apartments
That is 100% the plan. And they are doing it to their wealthiest voters because they know nobody will vote for a Republican over this. And even if they did, I trust the California elections as much as I do Hawk Tua girl's cybercoin
That is 100% the plan. And they are doing it to their wealthiest voters because they know nobody will vote for a Republican over this. And even if they did, I trust the California elections as much as I do Hawk Tua girl's cybercoin
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (dfIr7)
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>>Posted by: toby928
I saw a van downtown a little while ago with a giant mural of a wizard riding a dragon. I thought it was you until I saw the Florida plates.
I saw a van downtown a little while ago with a giant mural of a wizard riding a dragon. I thought it was you until I saw the Florida plates.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (viF8m)
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There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (pZEOD)
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All those immigrants will need some place affordable to live.
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 15, 2025 03:28 PM (aelnO)
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124 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (xcxpd)
Eventually, it is part of the reason why one party states are stupid. Hell even the "uniparty" theory is not this brazen in power abuse. Literally the democrat party in Hawaii and Cali could run openly on genocide for outgroups and not lose.
We live in an insane asylum.
Eventually, it is part of the reason why one party states are stupid. Hell even the "uniparty" theory is not this brazen in power abuse. Literally the democrat party in Hawaii and Cali could run openly on genocide for outgroups and not lose.
We live in an insane asylum.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:28 PM (XFYYr)
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There have been many examples of state mandated "low income" housing that ended up being more expensive and denser than what was there before.
You can not turn Pacific Palisades into a ghetto just by building apartments. Rich people will buy them up because of location. If controlled by state, they will hand out the leases to friends who can afford big kickbacks. There are examples of this happening in other areas in the past but I can't think of where right now.
You can not turn Pacific Palisades into a ghetto just by building apartments. Rich people will buy them up because of location. If controlled by state, they will hand out the leases to friends who can afford big kickbacks. There are examples of this happening in other areas in the past but I can't think of where right now.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:28 PM (S6/Nv)
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"Soil sampling is now required, and that tacks another $5000-$8000 onto the process."
LOL. Suck it Cali.
LOL. Suck it Cali.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 03:28 PM (vFG9F)
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At this rate in California, in a year it truly will be "Eat the rich."
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (fFOKU)
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I saw a van downtown a little while ago with a giant mural of a wizard riding a dragon. I thought it was you until I saw the Florida plates.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:27 P
The Wizard has to have a puppy under one arm.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:27 P
The Wizard has to have a puppy under one arm.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (jc0TO)
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I feel so sorry for all those rich people living in their multi million dollar mansions. They voted for this. They voted for Newsome. They voted for Bass.
They are getting what they voted for. They didn’t gaf when it was other folks’ homes burning. NOW they are being made to care.
They are getting what they voted for. They didn’t gaf when it was other folks’ homes burning. NOW they are being made to care.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (W2Pud)
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American Idol producer, 70, and her husband were found murdered in their $4.5 million Encino home. Another home invasion?? Not looking good for LA on any front: https://tinyurl.com/3wf6n4n3
Posted by: beckster at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (NLtte)
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132 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 03:25 PM (Jw2IK)
Eh, using the basis for Kelo for Federal seizures would at least force the matter to be better decided by Scotus.
Eh, using the basis for Kelo for Federal seizures would at least force the matter to be better decided by Scotus.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (XFYYr)
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My field of Fucks has Been Salted.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (4p0Xq)
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Thus they can rename Pacific Palisades, Shithole-by-the-Sea.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
It's pronounced Shee-THOH-lay Del Mar.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
It's pronounced Shee-THOH-lay Del Mar.
Posted by: California Tourism Board at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (IChGZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (fFOKU)
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You want to talk diversity? A girl at a middle school in England was ordered to go home and change because she wore a nice modest skirt and hat decorated with the Union Jack.
Why was this so outrageous? Was it patriotism? Was it respect for the flag? Did it violate school policy?
No, it was because they were having a multicultural day celebrating various cultures... but not English culture.
Why was this so outrageous? Was it patriotism? Was it respect for the flag? Did it violate school policy?
No, it was because they were having a multicultural day celebrating various cultures... but not English culture.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (dfIr7)
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Barely, I am experimenting with making Proton based steam machines using all AMD parts. It will enable me to gift people Ryzen 1000 based gaming boxes using renewed 6600-6650xt graphics cards.
300% of a steamdeck's performance at ~ 2/3ds the price. Not portable but fun and able to be sized down to ~ a webster's dictionary sized console probably.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (XFYYr)
Who's your buddy? Who's your pal?
Barely, I am experimenting with making Proton based steam machines using all AMD parts. It will enable me to gift people Ryzen 1000 based gaming boxes using renewed 6600-6650xt graphics cards.
300% of a steamdeck's performance at ~ 2/3ds the price. Not portable but fun and able to be sized down to ~ a webster's dictionary sized console probably.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (XFYYr)
Who's your buddy? Who's your pal?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (y9nCu)
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> 125 I'll bet it will have light rail.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (S6/Nv)
Close. Bureaucrats will get paid for "planning" the light rail, consultants will get paid for "studying" the light rail, and contractors will get paid for "designing" the light rail, but no actual rail will ever be laid.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (S6/Nv)
Close. Bureaucrats will get paid for "planning" the light rail, consultants will get paid for "studying" the light rail, and contractors will get paid for "designing" the light rail, but no actual rail will ever be laid.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (qpyNK)
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Palisades overwhelmingly voted for Biden and Harris, hard to get too upset about all this
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (mjCXl)
The USA overwhelmingly voted for Biden and Harris (81 million!), hard to get too upset about J6 or Melania's panties being rifled through.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (mjCXl)
The USA overwhelmingly voted for Biden and Harris (81 million!), hard to get too upset about J6 or Melania's panties being rifled through.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (2ocoG)
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I remember how it wasn't real French crepes because Puerto Ricans were making it.
Rolled them too tight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Like a blunt.
Rolled them too tight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Like a blunt.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (4IClK)
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150 Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (W2Pud)
More telling will be "sane" democrats in other states happily pulling for imitation Matthew McConnaughy in 2028....
More telling will be "sane" democrats in other states happily pulling for imitation Matthew McConnaughy in 2028....
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (XFYYr)
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How the fvck do they think they going to get the same amount of property taxes from a bunch of section 8 apartments that they would have received from a bunch of rebuilt luxury homes is truly beyond their ability to grasp.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (e5NfL)
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American Idol producer, 70, and her husband were found murdered in their $4.5 million Encino home. Another home invasion?? Not looking good for LA on any front: https://tinyurl.com/3wf6n4n3
If it is moral to murder a healthcare exec because he's abusing the system to take people's money why not a infotainment exec as well?
I could get behind the "Free Luigi" movement if he is required to stay in a high income area in NYC, LA, SF, or Alexandria...
If it is moral to murder a healthcare exec because he's abusing the system to take people's money why not a infotainment exec as well?
I could get behind the "Free Luigi" movement if he is required to stay in a high income area in NYC, LA, SF, or Alexandria...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (t0Rmr)
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I hate that this is happening but it's not going to stop until they are thrown out of office and off a bridge.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (7xrfc)
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143 There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (pZEOD)
Think about it. You're a kid born in America to two Mexican immigrants.
Your parents are illiterate. Maybe your mom cleans toilets and your dad mows lawns.
You come up in the shitty LAUSD schools where you learn how terrible and racist America is. You go to community college, fail out. Get a job at Subway making sandwiches for $20 an hour. You live with 4 roommates in a 2 bedroom apartment. Rent keeps going up.
How do you feel about those terrible racist rich white people living in the mansions overlooking the ocean? Maybe a bit angry? Resentful?
That's the voter base in CA. They want to force those people in to poverty. They want to build affordable housing in the rich white areas. They want to fuck those people over.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (pZEOD)
Think about it. You're a kid born in America to two Mexican immigrants.
Your parents are illiterate. Maybe your mom cleans toilets and your dad mows lawns.
You come up in the shitty LAUSD schools where you learn how terrible and racist America is. You go to community college, fail out. Get a job at Subway making sandwiches for $20 an hour. You live with 4 roommates in a 2 bedroom apartment. Rent keeps going up.
How do you feel about those terrible racist rich white people living in the mansions overlooking the ocean? Maybe a bit angry? Resentful?
That's the voter base in CA. They want to force those people in to poverty. They want to build affordable housing in the rich white areas. They want to fuck those people over.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (uCjyK)
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@151 To be fair, a $4.5 million Encino home probably doesn't have a second bathroom.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (qwx/I)
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Steve Garvey must have connections to people who know rich people in the Palisades. He needs to reach out to them and promise to waive all permitting and let them rebuild in exchange for financial support for a gubernatorial bid.
Posted by: Keyser at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (9ZGzn)
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Steve Hilton is the Republican candidate that is running. He's terrific.
Posted by: Keyser at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (9ZGzn)
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Steve Hilton is the Republican candidate that is running. He's terrific.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (NpAcC)
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rolled on the smooth plump thighs of Cuban ladies..
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (jc0TO)
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98 Seriously, isn't this being given way more attention than it deserves ... ? Let it go … they're getting what they voted for. It. Ain't. Our. Problem. ...
Posted by: Dr_No at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (ayRl+)
This and Hawaii were templates. If lefties start taking over more and more cities/states, expect more fires in desirable or red areas and the use of eminent domain to claim the damaged properties. Vote like your life, livelihood and home depend on it.
Posted by: Dr_No at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (ayRl+)
This and Hawaii were templates. If lefties start taking over more and more cities/states, expect more fires in desirable or red areas and the use of eminent domain to claim the damaged properties. Vote like your life, livelihood and home depend on it.
Posted by: moki at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (wLjpr)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (u82oZ)
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155 Encino? Home invasion? Murder?
Another one of those tourist gangs from South America?
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No suspects at this time but there was a prowler reported at the property last week. May have been the SA gangs or maybe a 'native.'
Another one of those tourist gangs from South America?
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No suspects at this time but there was a prowler reported at the property last week. May have been the SA gangs or maybe a 'native.'
Posted by: beckster at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (NLtte)
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157 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (y9nCu)
There is finally an opportunity to stick it to Microsoft, I cannot not take it. If/when I can get the pricepoint equilibrium to sub 300 for the whole kit and kaboodle I will probably be giving them away. I am very burnt out on my contracting work, and I am probably going to go into semi-retirement within the next two years.
Time to get back to my side hustles.
There is finally an opportunity to stick it to Microsoft, I cannot not take it. If/when I can get the pricepoint equilibrium to sub 300 for the whole kit and kaboodle I will probably be giving them away. I am very burnt out on my contracting work, and I am probably going to go into semi-retirement within the next two years.
Time to get back to my side hustles.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XFYYr)
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How the fvck do they think they going to get the same amount of property taxes from a bunch of section 8 apartments that they would have received from a bunch of rebuilt luxury homes is truly beyond their ability to grasp.
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But you're assuming any of those in charge have any interest in "effective government administration".
Spoiler: They don't.
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But you're assuming any of those in charge have any interest in "effective government administration".
Spoiler: They don't.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (TN0g+)
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American Idol producer, 70, and her husband were found murdered in their $4.5 million Encino home. Another home invasion?? Not looking good for LA on any front: https://tinyurl.com/3wf6n4n3
If it is moral to murder a healthcare exec because he's abusing the system to take people's money why not a infotainment exec as well?
I could get behind the "Free Luigi" movement if he is required to stay in a high income area in NYC, LA, SF, or Alexandria...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (t0Rmr)
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Did anyone spot a fag wielding a hammer?
If it is moral to murder a healthcare exec because he's abusing the system to take people's money why not a infotainment exec as well?
I could get behind the "Free Luigi" movement if he is required to stay in a high income area in NYC, LA, SF, or Alexandria...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (t0Rmr)
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Did anyone spot a fag wielding a hammer?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (iFTx/)
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The second bathroom for guests is listed on the blueprints as a bidet.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (fFOKU)
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You don't hate these people enough.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (Wnv9h)
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the DNC in general and California in particular really dislike having a middle class. I suppose they know that it is easier to implement their bullshit with just a small upperclass and a lower class that depends on getting at least partial support from the gub'mint.
I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
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I hate that this is happening but it's not going to stop until they are thrown out of office and off a bridge.
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That should be a ballot initiative.
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That should be a ballot initiative.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (TN0g+)
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169 Posted by: moki at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (wLjpr)
Correct the "cold civil war" is simmering, and "neighborhood watch" may take on necessity as a virtue.
Correct the "cold civil war" is simmering, and "neighborhood watch" may take on necessity as a virtue.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XFYYr)
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Townhall.com
@townhallcom
ZOHRAN MAMDANI: If I ever ran out of money, my family would be able to support me.
https://tinyurl.com/3h6amhen
@townhallcom
ZOHRAN MAMDANI: If I ever ran out of money, my family would be able to support me.
https://tinyurl.com/3h6amhen
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 03:34 PM (NpAcC)
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The tax rolls will definably suffer. This is all an own goal.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (u82oZ)
They don't care.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (u82oZ)
They don't care.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:34 PM (uCjyK)
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"Soil sampling is now required, and that tacks another $5000-$8000 onto the process."
......
Yep, it's dirt. Pay me.
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Yep, it's dirt. Pay me.
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 03:34 PM (v0R5T)
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177 Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
Most people when they engage in masturbation looking towards Brazil are doing so because of the beautiful locals...
democrats do so because of the favelas.
Most people when they engage in masturbation looking towards Brazil are doing so because of the beautiful locals...
democrats do so because of the favelas.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:34 PM (XFYYr)
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That should be a ballot initiative.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (TN0g+) /i]
Sorry, that's ballot initiative is unconstitutional.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (TN0g+) /i]
Sorry, that's ballot initiative is unconstitutional.
Posted by: The CA SC at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (t0Rmr)
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I suspect some homeowners in the Palisades intended to leave their homes to their kids. If the city offers pennies on the dollar, they will not be happy.
Posted by: mr tmz at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (rJ48h)
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Make me.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (Pce4l)
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Remember Springfield, Ohio? Where Haitians were eating the pets last year?
Clark County ain't in California ...
SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (WXIX) - Hundreds of thousands of Haitian refugees, including those in Clark County, are expected to lose their Temporary Protected Status in just a couple of months after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security rescinded a previous extension made by the Biden administration.
Clark County ain't in California ...
SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (WXIX) - Hundreds of thousands of Haitian refugees, including those in Clark County, are expected to lose their Temporary Protected Status in just a couple of months after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security rescinded a previous extension made by the Biden administration.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (rj6Yv)
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The tax rolls will definably suffer. This is all an own goal.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (u82oZ)
Nah... a lot of these mooks are just in it for the short-term score.
They don't give a fuck if the whole thing goes smash 10 or 15 years down the line. By that time they're planning on being in a nice place in Arizona or something.
The tax rolls will definably suffer. This is all an own goal.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (u82oZ)
Nah... a lot of these mooks are just in it for the short-term score.
They don't give a fuck if the whole thing goes smash 10 or 15 years down the line. By that time they're planning on being in a nice place in Arizona or something.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (qpyNK)
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This is one of the most evil schemes I've ever seen. If a corporation tried to screw devastated people like this, there would be vigilante movies coming out of Hollywood every month. But it's Democrats, so no one says a fucking word.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (xP8uf)
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Section 8 housing next to Multi-million dollar homes is now the California dream.
Do it and watch the crime rates increase......
Posted by: Allotta Fagina
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You think Section 8 Denizens steal from each other?
You have to put them next to where the pickings are good.
This is the brilliance of putting just a few section 8 into each new development. Spread them out so they are harder to protest against.
Do it and watch the crime rates increase......
Posted by: Allotta Fagina
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You think Section 8 Denizens steal from each other?
You have to put them next to where the pickings are good.
This is the brilliance of putting just a few section 8 into each new development. Spread them out so they are harder to protest against.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (/lPRQ)
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The likes of Newscum and Bassamaticc are confident they will be long gone when California becomes a state shaped sink hole.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (fFOKU)
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My husband agrees with you all. Because he is a bigger Moron than I am. He says lawsuits will tie it up and it probably will be high end apts to enrich the rich with kickbacks to the politicians.
I guess I felt bad for possibly the one person who voted Trump/Vance and has a second home on that land for generations. I have a vivid imagination.
We also used to live a block from the Atlantic after building a house, and that's why it sent me briefly insane. The thought of this. Not that I'd rebuild if a hurricane wiped us out, but I'd want market value.
The Pacific Palisades people are going to be thrilled to look down on this beach, now occupied by cartels, illegals and homeless meth heads. I hope Mel Gibson raises all sorts of hellfire and damnation.
I guess I felt bad for possibly the one person who voted Trump/Vance and has a second home on that land for generations. I have a vivid imagination.
We also used to live a block from the Atlantic after building a house, and that's why it sent me briefly insane. The thought of this. Not that I'd rebuild if a hurricane wiped us out, but I'd want market value.
The Pacific Palisades people are going to be thrilled to look down on this beach, now occupied by cartels, illegals and homeless meth heads. I hope Mel Gibson raises all sorts of hellfire and damnation.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (6PCLE)
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I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
We did just fine without one.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
We did just fine without one.
Posted by: PRC at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (Pce4l)
193
Is any rebuilding going on in Lahaina?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (W2Pud)
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[Tangentially related:]
The wifey and I spent the 4th of July Independence Day holiday weekend at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon (my first visit there after a dozen visits to the more built up, popular, and crowded in South Rim
It was fantastic -- and now we're among the last to have experienced and seen the historic old Lodge and Cabins
A lightning-caused wildfire some miles away began our last night there -- and instead of quickly containing and putting it out, the stupid decision was made to let it burn some undergrowth and deadwood (in red flag conditions mind you with 100° temperatures and high winds).
Now all the structures are gone (many built by 1937 after the original Lodge burned down in 192
and many workers are left with no jobs and few possessions remaining.
Hopefully President Trump and his people will cut through any red tape & idiotic regulations & building codes to get it rebuilt as faithfully, soon, and inexpensively as possible.
The wifey and I spent the 4th of July Independence Day holiday weekend at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon (my first visit there after a dozen visits to the more built up, popular, and crowded in South Rim
It was fantastic -- and now we're among the last to have experienced and seen the historic old Lodge and Cabins
A lightning-caused wildfire some miles away began our last night there -- and instead of quickly containing and putting it out, the stupid decision was made to let it burn some undergrowth and deadwood (in red flag conditions mind you with 100° temperatures and high winds).
Now all the structures are gone (many built by 1937 after the original Lodge burned down in 192
and many workers are left with no jobs and few possessions remaining.
Hopefully President Trump and his people will cut through any red tape & idiotic regulations & building codes to get it rebuilt as faithfully, soon, and inexpensively as possible.
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (Bi/Rw)
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No, it was because they were having a multicultural day celebrating various cultures... but not English culture.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (dfIr7)
I saw that. The kids in Welsh/St George gear were sent home as well. No English culture allowed in Old Blighty.
No, it was because they were having a multicultural day celebrating various cultures... but not English culture.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (dfIr7)
I saw that. The kids in Welsh/St George gear were sent home as well. No English culture allowed in Old Blighty.
Posted by: moki at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (wLjpr)
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The Amish would've had that entire city rebuilt in a matter of weeks.
At what point do people just say fuck it, hire whoever, and just build?
They can't stop all of them.
At what point do people just say fuck it, hire whoever, and just build?
They can't stop all of them.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (KbCG3)
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Nah... a lot of these mooks are just in it for the short-term score.
A lot of true believing leftists claim the world is already doom and we only have years left anyway. None of these people are worried about "the long term"
Nah... a lot of these mooks are just in it for the short-term score.
A lot of true believing leftists claim the world is already doom and we only have years left anyway. None of these people are worried about "the long term"
Posted by: The CA SC at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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193 I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
We did just fine without one.
Posted by: PRC at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (Pce4l)
Who needs a middle class when you can have a nomenklatura?
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
We did just fine without one.
Posted by: PRC at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (Pce4l)
Who needs a middle class when you can have a nomenklatura?
Posted by: USSR at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (Pce4l)
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[Ancillary ProTip:] The morning we left, we were having a coffee outside behind a beautiful stonewall at the lodge overlooking the canyon -- and I placed my wallet and car key fob on top of the wall.
A cute little chipmunk appeared (they were all over the place, but likely & sadly not anymore) running around, up and down, stopping to pose for pictures ... when suddenly he went for my key fob, gnawing on it trying to get a hold of it and dragging it away!
I managed to shoo him off before he absconded with it down the canyon wall and into a den -- lost forever. We would have been totally screwed ... and possibly forcibly evacuated with someone else -- resulting in my car being a burned-out husk up there now.
So --
Old & Busted: Don't forget to bring a towel!
New Hotness: Don't forget to bring a spare key fob!
A cute little chipmunk appeared (they were all over the place, but likely & sadly not anymore) running around, up and down, stopping to pose for pictures ... when suddenly he went for my key fob, gnawing on it trying to get a hold of it and dragging it away!
I managed to shoo him off before he absconded with it down the canyon wall and into a den -- lost forever. We would have been totally screwed ... and possibly forcibly evacuated with someone else -- resulting in my car being a burned-out husk up there now.
So --
Old & Busted: Don't forget to bring a towel!
New Hotness: Don't forget to bring a spare key fob!
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (Bi/Rw)
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143 There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.
Posted by: Piper
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In the 90s, in my town in NJ, they would broadcast the town council meetings late at night on cable (mandated public service programming) and I had insomnia.
They spent hours and hours debating where to put the state court mandated low income housing (Mt. Laurel ruling.) It was hilarious -- they discussed where all neighboring towns were putting it. It was a shit show. Nobody wanted this, but no one had political power to stop it, so towns were finding the shittiest spot - usually on the edge of town - and trying to make it so that all transportation available would dump the poors onto the next town over.
This is when I understood I had to leave NJ.
Posted by: Piper
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In the 90s, in my town in NJ, they would broadcast the town council meetings late at night on cable (mandated public service programming) and I had insomnia.
They spent hours and hours debating where to put the state court mandated low income housing (Mt. Laurel ruling.) It was hilarious -- they discussed where all neighboring towns were putting it. It was a shit show. Nobody wanted this, but no one had political power to stop it, so towns were finding the shittiest spot - usually on the edge of town - and trying to make it so that all transportation available would dump the poors onto the next town over.
This is when I understood I had to leave NJ.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (S6/Nv)
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I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
Yeah, they do fine. And we're rapidly approaching that.
You have the true aristocrat class. They may or may not have real jobs, they have intergenerational wealth and don't really care.
You have the "striving" or upper middle class class. They do the white collar work and hope to someday be in the aristocrat class, but they won't ever be accepted in to that class.
Then you have the "worker class" who exist to do everything the aristocrat class wants done.
That's kind of the way of the world, historically. The US somewhat bucked that trend, but things are equalizing out now.
The aristocrats do not want a strong middle class, that's not only terrifying to them, but also an unnecessary use of resources. The plumber doesn't need three cars and a vacation home at the lake.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
Yeah, they do fine. And we're rapidly approaching that.
You have the true aristocrat class. They may or may not have real jobs, they have intergenerational wealth and don't really care.
You have the "striving" or upper middle class class. They do the white collar work and hope to someday be in the aristocrat class, but they won't ever be accepted in to that class.
Then you have the "worker class" who exist to do everything the aristocrat class wants done.
That's kind of the way of the world, historically. The US somewhat bucked that trend, but things are equalizing out now.
The aristocrats do not want a strong middle class, that's not only terrifying to them, but also an unnecessary use of resources. The plumber doesn't need three cars and a vacation home at the lake.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (uCjyK)
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@143
>>There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.
Low income housing is the hook, there will be very little low income housing built.
>>There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.
Low income housing is the hook, there will be very little low income housing built.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (hfKLq)
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199 193 I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)
And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (Pce4l)
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187 Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (rj6Yv)
My brother sold his house in Springfield this year, I am rather happy he did so.
My brother sold his house in Springfield this year, I am rather happy he did so.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (XFYYr)
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the DNC in general and California in particular really dislike having a middle class. I suppose they know that it is easier to implement their bullshit with just a small upperclass and a lower class that depends on getting at least partial support from the gub'mint.
Lefties world wide hate having a middle class. Communism only "works" if you have the commissars and a dependent lower class. Everyone else gets killed for being a kulak or for being a useful idiot that no longer has a use.
Lefties world wide hate having a middle class. Communism only "works" if you have the commissars and a dependent lower class. Everyone else gets killed for being a kulak or for being a useful idiot that no longer has a use.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (2ocoG)
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197 The Amish would've had that entire city rebuilt in a matter of weeks.
At what point do people just say fuck it, hire whoever, and just build?
They can't stop all of them.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (KbCG3)
“Just doing our jobs, like when we kept all those kids off the playground.”
~ The Police
At what point do people just say fuck it, hire whoever, and just build?
They can't stop all of them.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (KbCG3)
“Just doing our jobs, like when we kept all those kids off the playground.”
~ The Police
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (Mxf84)
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*Pauses*
What a truly evil idea.
What if the California Dept. of Environmental Protection and EPA declares the entire Palisades a Super Fund Site?
What a truly evil idea.
What if the California Dept. of Environmental Protection and EPA declares the entire Palisades a Super Fund Site?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (fFOKU)
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This and Hawaii were templates. If lefties start taking over more and more cities/states, expect more fires in desirable or red areas and the use of eminent domain to claim the damaged properties. Vote like your life, livelihood and home depend on it.
Posted by: moki
Too many times and it will be too obvious. Especially if they are trying it in red areas.
Posted by: moki
Too many times and it will be too obvious. Especially if they are trying it in red areas.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (4IClK)
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Spectacular ocean views? Who cares! I think they should get diversity in Malibu. All of them structures need some culture like tagging, the state can supply the spray paint. Tag that place up, it's art! Then move in homeless people from downtown L.A. with their North Face and Sierra Designs tents and shopping carts. Water right there that they can bathe, piss or shit in. Then when they're all cracked up, looped on fentanyl or whatever drug they're on people driving the PCH can play crackhead slalom from them jittering their way high AF out on the road into traffic like the rest of the inner city dwellers do early in the morning
Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (IlL6s)
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Well...shit.
Criterion's gonna take more of my money.
Guillermo del Toro's Nightmare Alley is going into the collection.
"But, TJM, you already have it. You already have it in 4K even."
Yes, but they are also doing the black and white version.
Bastards.
Criterion's gonna take more of my money.
Guillermo del Toro's Nightmare Alley is going into the collection.
"But, TJM, you already have it. You already have it in 4K even."
Yes, but they are also doing the black and white version.
Bastards.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)
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And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.
Posted by: Cow Demon
The government's ATM machine.
Posted by: Cow Demon
The government's ATM machine.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (4IClK)
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*leftover structures from the fire*
Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (IlL6s)
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Too many times and it will be too obvious.
After watching them blatantly steal the 2020 election and try to assassinate the president, I am convinced now that there is no such thing as "too obvious" or at least "so obvious that everyone turns against it."
After watching them blatantly steal the 2020 election and try to assassinate the president, I am convinced now that there is no such thing as "too obvious" or at least "so obvious that everyone turns against it."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (dfIr7)
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I thought Ukraine was the government's ATM?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (fFOKU)
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And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.
Posted by: Cow Demon
The government's ATM machine.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM
The Tax Farm.
Posted by: Cow Demon
The government's ATM machine.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM
The Tax Farm.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (jc0TO)
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New York Times article: ICE Raids Scare Off L.A. Workers Rebuilding Fire-Torn Areas
Immigrant workers are central to recovery efforts in neighborhoods burned in the January wildfires, but recent raids have led some to stay home.
Immigrant workers are central to recovery efforts in neighborhoods burned in the January wildfires, but recent raids have led some to stay home.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 15, 2025 03:42 PM (JCZqz)
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Is any rebuilding going on in Lahaina?
No. I've told this here before, but the "natives" are denying permits because they see it as their big chance to actually make good on the "land acknowledgements" and kick out the haoles. The (D) governor tried to make them issue permits and the ACLU sued him for "fascist genocide". A federal judge agreed. Now it will never be rebuilt and the native Hawaiians are just waiting for people to give up and sell them the land for pennies on the dollar.
No. I've told this here before, but the "natives" are denying permits because they see it as their big chance to actually make good on the "land acknowledgements" and kick out the haoles. The (D) governor tried to make them issue permits and the ACLU sued him for "fascist genocide". A federal judge agreed. Now it will never be rebuilt and the native Hawaiians are just waiting for people to give up and sell them the land for pennies on the dollar.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:42 PM (2ocoG)
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SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (WXIX) - Hundreds of thousands of Haitian refugees, including those in Clark County, are expected to lose their Temporary Protected Status in just a couple of months after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security rescinded a previous extension made by the Biden administration.
Posted by: mrp
QUACK !
Posted by: mrp
QUACK !
Posted by: Ducks for Trump at July 15, 2025 03:42 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2025 03:42 PM (Y8DZL)
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After watching them blatantly steal the 2020 election and try to assassinate the president, I am convinced now that there is no such thing as "too obvious" or at least "so obvious that everyone turns against it."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (dfIr7)
Shit, look at people's reaction to the Epstein situation. "bah, move on! He's dead. Who cares?"
The propaganda is strong out there. Shockingly so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (dfIr7)
Shit, look at people's reaction to the Epstein situation. "bah, move on! He's dead. Who cares?"
The propaganda is strong out there. Shockingly so.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (uCjyK)
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*Pauses*
What a truly evil idea.
What if the California Dept. of Environmental Protection and EPA declares the entire Palisades a Super Fund Site?
Posted by: Anna Puma
*goes to Science Lab Supply Company and orders 1,000 gallons of mercury
"This is gonna be great!"
Posted by: Flounder
What a truly evil idea.
What if the California Dept. of Environmental Protection and EPA declares the entire Palisades a Super Fund Site?
Posted by: Anna Puma
*goes to Science Lab Supply Company and orders 1,000 gallons of mercury
"This is gonna be great!"
Posted by: Flounder
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (4IClK)
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"But, TJM, you already have it. You already have it in 4K even."
Yes, but they are also doing the black and white version.
Bastards.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)
Do you have the 4k Blu-Ray version of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"? I've seen HD-quality video clips on YT, and they are quite good.
Yes, but they are also doing the black and white version.
Bastards.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)
Do you have the 4k Blu-Ray version of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"? I've seen HD-quality video clips on YT, and they are quite good.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (rj6Yv)
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I'd like to see/hear some interviews with displaced former homeowners about their feeling towards their state, county and city governments. How many have actually "seen the light?"
Bet it ain't many.
Cuz a lot of them figure the state will take care of them... eventually.
The time to revisit this is in 2027 or '28. After the misery has had a chance to settle in.
Bet it ain't many.
Cuz a lot of them figure the state will take care of them... eventually.
The time to revisit this is in 2027 or '28. After the misery has had a chance to settle in.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (Q4IgG)
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Adam Carolla's criticism of Gavin Newsom has sustained me emotionally for years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (JvZF+)
Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (pMi6S)
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224 Do you have the 4k Blu-Ray version of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"? I've seen HD-quality video clips on YT, and they are quite good.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (rj6Yv)
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I don't...really like the film. I do have an older Blu-ray, a multipack with the other two No Name films that I like a lot more.
But, TGTBTU? One of the most beloved westerns ever made?
Not really a fan. I can pass on the 4K.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (rj6Yv)
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I don't...really like the film. I do have an older Blu-ray, a multipack with the other two No Name films that I like a lot more.
But, TGTBTU? One of the most beloved westerns ever made?
Not really a fan. I can pass on the 4K.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
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I thought Ukraine was the government's ATM?
Posted by: Anna Puma
That's Fedgov.
Property tax is local/state gov
Posted by: Anna Puma
That's Fedgov.
Property tax is local/state gov
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (4IClK)
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Alar in Mexico is probably cheaper than mercury and not as easily traced.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (fFOKU)
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They put Light Rail in Sunnyvale when I lived there.
on Fair Oaks. The only road with nice tall trees. Cut down the trees for a fucking bus on rails that stops at red lights.
I took it to work once when my car was being serviced. Normally a 5 min ride took over an hour on light rail. My home and office were both a short walk from stations.
on Fair Oaks. The only road with nice tall trees. Cut down the trees for a fucking bus on rails that stops at red lights.
I took it to work once when my car was being serviced. Normally a 5 min ride took over an hour on light rail. My home and office were both a short walk from stations.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (S6/Nv)
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Shit, look at people's reaction to the Epstein situation. "bah, move on! He's dead. Who cares?"
Epstein actually isn't important, except to people who desperately want Trump to nuke Tel Aviv.
I feel like Biden's Dog wouldn't like that.
Epstein actually isn't important, except to people who desperately want Trump to nuke Tel Aviv.
I feel like Biden's Dog wouldn't like that.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ocoG)
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I wonder how these people are holding up though and not filled with murderous rage. I had 5000 hours of meditation under my belt and I was going crazy.
Now that it's over, for my own well being, I have forgiven my brother. And I choose to laugh at all the trauma.
That and I've found tons of their family pictures, their kids' pictures, wedding pictures and I'm shredding them as I clean up the house now that it's FINALLY mine.
I guess I'm a work in progress. And I need the frames.
Now that it's over, for my own well being, I have forgiven my brother. And I choose to laugh at all the trauma.
That and I've found tons of their family pictures, their kids' pictures, wedding pictures and I'm shredding them as I clean up the house now that it's FINALLY mine.
I guess I'm a work in progress. And I need the frames.
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 11.3 % at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (jvJvP)
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Newsom has really mastered the Peter Strzok slime ball shoulder shimmy.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ap+5)
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99 I read that a fair number of those homes were rentals. So a ready-made population looking to rent is just waiting for their apartments. Too bad they'll likely be pushed aside for the illegals and indigents that will be settled in brand new section 8 high density apartments.
A brand new ghetto for the pols to glom onto.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM
I have a good friend who has a sister in Altadena and brother in Pasadena. Both were years-long renters. The brother was eventually able to move back into his home after a couple of months but the sister was not able to. The damage was too extensive. In that situation, two parties are impacted- the owner and the renter. With so many people displaced, places to rent, never mind in their children's school district, were impossible to find. What a nightmare.
A brand new ghetto for the pols to glom onto.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM
I have a good friend who has a sister in Altadena and brother in Pasadena. Both were years-long renters. The brother was eventually able to move back into his home after a couple of months but the sister was not able to. The damage was too extensive. In that situation, two parties are impacted- the owner and the renter. With so many people displaced, places to rent, never mind in their children's school district, were impossible to find. What a nightmare.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (rbKZ6)
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213 And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.
Posted by: Cow Demon
The government's ATM machine.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (4IClK)
EVERYBODY is the government’s ATM when you get right down to it.
Posted by: Cow Demon
The government's ATM machine.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (4IClK)
EVERYBODY is the government’s ATM when you get right down to it.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (Pce4l)
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At least as concerns Altadena - who is going to work at JPL and Caltech? The low income families?
Posted by: InZona at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (4egyM)
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I'm holding out until Criterion issues Nightmare Alley in Smell-O-Vision so the sweet fragrance of carnies washes over me as I watch.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (CzMNg)
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227 people driving the PCH can play crackhead slalom
I'd like to see that as an Olympic sport.
Posted by: zombie
But, just as in "Death Race 2000," the gold medal goes to the person who runs over the most drug addicts.
I'd like to see that as an Olympic sport.
Posted by: zombie
But, just as in "Death Race 2000," the gold medal goes to the person who runs over the most drug addicts.
Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (pMi6S)
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Also, David Lynch's Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me is getting a 4K upgrade. Knew that was coming once one was announced in France like...2 years ago.
I held off on that purchase, so I have no problem picking that 4K up. Also...an upgrade for A History of Violence.
October, man...I'm gonna buy things that come out in October.
I held off on that purchase, so I have no problem picking that 4K up. Also...an upgrade for A History of Violence.
October, man...I'm gonna buy things that come out in October.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)
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The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley
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In the week following The Storm here, I was invited to dinner with two couples here. Two *very* affluent couples. I had spent the day dealing with finding housing for 150 Vets whose facilities had been washed away by the flood.
Over dinner, the conversation turned to these couples discussion of their favorite chefs, and the virtues of their respective cleaning ladies. Meanwhile, just a mile or so away, thousands of people had lost their homes. I have never experienced, so viscerally the unconcious arrogance of the affluent.
Posted by: Ripley
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In the week following The Storm here, I was invited to dinner with two couples here. Two *very* affluent couples. I had spent the day dealing with finding housing for 150 Vets whose facilities had been washed away by the flood.
Over dinner, the conversation turned to these couples discussion of their favorite chefs, and the virtues of their respective cleaning ladies. Meanwhile, just a mile or so away, thousands of people had lost their homes. I have never experienced, so viscerally the unconcious arrogance of the affluent.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (XeU6L)
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Epstein actually isn't important, except to people who desperately want Trump to nuke Tel Aviv.
I feel like Biden's Dog wouldn't like that.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ocoG)
I just...
ya know?
This is exhausting.
I feel like Biden's Dog wouldn't like that.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ocoG)
I just...
ya know?
This is exhausting.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (u82oZ)
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Do you have the 4k Blu-Ray version of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"? I've seen HD-quality video clips on YT, and they are quite good.
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Hey TJM, do you have the 4K Blu-Ray version of "Point Break"?
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Hey TJM, do you have the 4K Blu-Ray version of "Point Break"?
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (TN0g+)
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Alar in Mexico is probably cheaper than mercury and not as easily traced.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Ooooh. Good thinking.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Ooooh. Good thinking.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (4IClK)
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Over dinner, the conversation turned to these couples discussion of their favorite chefs, and the virtues of their respective cleaning ladies. Meanwhile, just a mile or so away, thousands of people had lost their homes. I have never experienced, so viscerally the unconcious arrogance of the affluent.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (XeU6L)
Yeah, I work for / with the NYC version of that.
It is something to behold.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (XeU6L)
Yeah, I work for / with the NYC version of that.
It is something to behold.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (uCjyK)
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244 Hey TJM, do you have the 4K Blu-Ray version of "Point Break"?
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (TN0g+)
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No.
Next!
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (TN0g+)
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No.
Next!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)
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Reverse gentrification is tight!!!!
Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 03:47 PM (dIske)
247
Also, David Lynch's Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me is getting a 4K upgrade. Knew that was coming once one was announced in France like...2 years ago.
GARZAMBOZIO.
It's really not a very good movie.
GARZAMBOZIO.
It's really not a very good movie.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:47 PM (CzMNg)
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249 Also, David Lynch's Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me is getting a 4K upgrade. Knew that was coming once one was announced in France like...2 years ago.
GARZAMBOZIO.
It's really not a very good movie.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:47 PM (CzMNg)
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It's a very good movie!
Pure descent into Hell.
GARZAMBOZIO.
It's really not a very good movie.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:47 PM (CzMNg)
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It's a very good movie!
Pure descent into Hell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
249
Epstein actually isn't important, except to people who desperately want Trump to nuke Tel Aviv.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ocoG)
Dude I love your insights and you are usually bang on but - no
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ocoG)
Dude I love your insights and you are usually bang on but - no
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (Qr870)
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The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley
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In the week following The Storm here, I was invited to dinner with two couples here. Two *very* affluent couples. I had spent the day dealing with finding housing for 150 Vets whose facilities had been washed away by the flood.
Over dinner, the conversation turned to these couples discussion of their favorite chefs, and the virtues of their respective cleaning ladies. Meanwhile, just a mile or so away, thousands of people had lost their homes. I have never experienced, so viscerally the unconcious arrogance of the affluent.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (XeU6L)
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Good thing you didn't stick around for the discussion of their favorite pool boys ....
Posted by: Ripley
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In the week following The Storm here, I was invited to dinner with two couples here. Two *very* affluent couples. I had spent the day dealing with finding housing for 150 Vets whose facilities had been washed away by the flood.
Over dinner, the conversation turned to these couples discussion of their favorite chefs, and the virtues of their respective cleaning ladies. Meanwhile, just a mile or so away, thousands of people had lost their homes. I have never experienced, so viscerally the unconcious arrogance of the affluent.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (XeU6L)
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Good thing you didn't stick around for the discussion of their favorite pool boys ....
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)
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Sounds like DataRepublican is getting ready to drop a nuke of her own on NGOs and the money trail.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (viF8m)
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California government has turned into the villains in a James Ellroy novel.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (xP8uf)
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Because I have a connection to Lahaina, I've been checking in on the aftermath of that fire:
https://tinyurl.com/4spjhakp
2 years (very soon) and barely anything has been rebuilt.
Lahaina was a much more middle class area, with actual families, single family homes, smaller shops, et al- unlike the "resort" parts of Maui.
And the government is making sure that these places will never return with their draconian permitting process.
From the article:
"Maui County officials estimated that relaxing the SMA rule would help 103 commercial and 533 residential structures get permits a full year faster than before."
TWO YEARS AFTER THE FIRE, they are discussing relaxing a rule to make it A YEAR sooner to get through the process.
We plan to return in 2028. I'm guessing they might be building by then, but they won't have recovered.
https://tinyurl.com/4spjhakp
2 years (very soon) and barely anything has been rebuilt.
Lahaina was a much more middle class area, with actual families, single family homes, smaller shops, et al- unlike the "resort" parts of Maui.
And the government is making sure that these places will never return with their draconian permitting process.
From the article:
"Maui County officials estimated that relaxing the SMA rule would help 103 commercial and 533 residential structures get permits a full year faster than before."
TWO YEARS AFTER THE FIRE, they are discussing relaxing a rule to make it A YEAR sooner to get through the process.
We plan to return in 2028. I'm guessing they might be building by then, but they won't have recovered.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (N1DT3)
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OTOH,....
In Japan they tried to eminent domain some farms to build Narita. The Japs went full terrorist and for decades they had to cordon off the area and check passports to allow people to enter since the homeowners were blowing shit up.
There are still homes in the middle of runways, although not as much now as a few years ago as people are dying off.
That is what resistance looks like.
In Japan they tried to eminent domain some farms to build Narita. The Japs went full terrorist and for decades they had to cordon off the area and check passports to allow people to enter since the homeowners were blowing shit up.
There are still homes in the middle of runways, although not as much now as a few years ago as people are dying off.
That is what resistance looks like.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (S6/Nv)
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I bet the bodyguards hated guarding those two.
Newson is trying really hard to be normal but he took much of is normal prescription.
Newson is trying really hard to be normal but he took much of is normal prescription.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (EyfuW)
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Good thing you didn't stick around for the discussion of their favorite pool boys ....
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)
A good pool boy knows not to make eye contact when working.
A great pool boy knows to make eye contact with the husband sitting in his cuck chair while he rails the husband's wife.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)
A good pool boy knows not to make eye contact when working.
A great pool boy knows to make eye contact with the husband sitting in his cuck chair while he rails the husband's wife.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (uCjyK)
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Democrats née communist, only know jealousy. They addre jealous that people either had nice houses there, or lived there for decades as part of a thriving community. They hate that joy and happiness, so they want to destroy it by turning what those people loved in to another slum.
I get the reflex is always to snark "you got what you voted for" but for many of these people that may not be thr case (and how fucking dumb did that look when so many liberals said the same about the Texas floods)
Hopefully there are enough lawyers or people with money, that they can fight this, before Democrats do more to turn the nicest areas of country into ghettos for the street trash they import.
I get the reflex is always to snark "you got what you voted for" but for many of these people that may not be thr case (and how fucking dumb did that look when so many liberals said the same about the Texas floods)
Hopefully there are enough lawyers or people with money, that they can fight this, before Democrats do more to turn the nicest areas of country into ghettos for the street trash they import.
Posted by: Rbastid at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (uw7Xa)
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Close. Bureaucrats will get paid for "planning" the light rail, consultants will get paid for "studying" the light rail, and contractors will get paid for "designing" the light rail, but no actual rail will ever be laid.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (qpyNK)
That pretty well describes marriage too.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (qpyNK)
That pretty well describes marriage too.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (g8Ew8)
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That's a shame.
Posted by: Maj. Healey Joy Bringer at July 15, 2025 03:50 PM (/U5Yz)
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Who knew LA was NC and TN?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 03:50 PM (W3T6M)
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Just finished one complex model of about 300 parts and over 190 decals.
So, for something 'easy' trying to blitz build a specific plane for the 80th anniversary of Japan's surrender.
So, for something 'easy' trying to blitz build a specific plane for the 80th anniversary of Japan's surrender.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:50 PM (fFOKU)
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Newsom has really mastered the Peter Strzok slime ball shoulder shimmy.
Posted by: Oglebay
......
He's a spastic.
Posted by: Oglebay
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He's a spastic.
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 03:50 PM (UjdFS)
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Because I have a connection to Lahaina, I've been checking in on the aftermath of that fire:
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (N1DT3)
(That connection to Maui? We have some friends who moved from Pacific Palisades to Maui because they were afraid of the fires. Of note, their home on Maui was never in danger from the fires and their previous home in Pacific Palisades is now gone.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (N1DT3)
(That connection to Maui? We have some friends who moved from Pacific Palisades to Maui because they were afraid of the fires. Of note, their home on Maui was never in danger from the fires and their previous home in Pacific Palisades is now gone.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 03:51 PM (N1DT3)
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Here's a funny scenario. Tom Hank's $26 Million mansion was saved due to a massive amount of fire retardant materials and extra costs to provide water features.
His mansion stands as it always has. BUT, he's about to be sitting in the middle of a Low Income neighborhood.
Nice save, Tommy.
His mansion stands as it always has. BUT, he's about to be sitting in the middle of a Low Income neighborhood.
Nice save, Tommy.
Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (dIske)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (Qr870)
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Ice ice baby.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 03:53 PM (cn0nj)
Posted by: Denizens of LA County at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (uCjyK)
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267 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (Qr870)
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Dolley and I watched the Hunger Games prequel yesterday over our streaming digital footlocker.
The HDR on the 4K stream made it...so dark. It was weird. First HDR I've seen make the image darker. The HD was much brighter.
I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (Qr870)
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Dolley and I watched the Hunger Games prequel yesterday over our streaming digital footlocker.
The HDR on the 4K stream made it...so dark. It was weird. First HDR I've seen make the image darker. The HD was much brighter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
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How the fvck do they think they going to get the same amount of property taxes from a bunch of section 8 apartments that they would have received from a bunch of rebuilt luxury homes is truly beyond their ability to grasp.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS
5M home. vs. 5M commercial rental unit
The value of the rental unit will be more than 5M.
Cali tried to eliminate Prop 13 on commercial buildings recently and was voted down.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS
5M home. vs. 5M commercial rental unit
The value of the rental unit will be more than 5M.
Cali tried to eliminate Prop 13 on commercial buildings recently and was voted down.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (JkCto)
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@239 zombie-If I remember correctly you're familiar with San Fran/Bay Area. You and others familiar with Market Street in SF at 3-5 in the morning know exactly what I'm talking about. I always called it crackhead slalom.
Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 03:55 PM (IlL6s)
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Here's a funny scenario. Tom Hank's $26 Million mansion was saved due to a massive amount of fire retardant materials and extra costs to provide water features.
His mansion stands as it always has. BUT, he's about to be sitting in the middle of a Low Income neighborhood.
Nice save, Tommy.
Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (dIske)
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"The Gump Dump" has a nice ring to it ...
His mansion stands as it always has. BUT, he's about to be sitting in the middle of a Low Income neighborhood.
Nice save, Tommy.
Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (dIske)
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"The Gump Dump" has a nice ring to it ...
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 03:55 PM (bSjm6)
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"Read the whole thing."
I did read the whole thing, several days ago, when it was posted on HotAir. Jeez Ace, maybe it's a slow news day, but can't you do better than copying their homework from last week?
I did read the whole thing, several days ago, when it was posted on HotAir. Jeez Ace, maybe it's a slow news day, but can't you do better than copying their homework from last week?
Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (aGKc9)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (4IClK)
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This is far worse than a few % tax on tea.
Perhaps it is time to revisit the 13 colonies' attitude toward overweening government.
Perhaps it is time to revisit the 13 colonies' attitude toward overweening government.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (L5An7)
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These worthless democrat cocksuckers are getting exactly what they voted for and they're getting it nice and hard.
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Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (/U5Yz)
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No. I've told this here before, but the "natives" are denying permits because they see it as their big chance to actually make good on the "land acknowledgements" and kick out the haoles. The (D) governor tried to make them issue permits and the ACLU sued him for "fascist genocide". A federal judge agreed. Now it will never be rebuilt and the native Hawaiians are just waiting for people to give up and sell them the land for pennies on the dollar.
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This sounds spot on but how do the Hawaiian Japanese make out? Managers get paid.
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This sounds spot on but how do the Hawaiian Japanese make out? Managers get paid.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (W3T6M)
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Governments seem to have moved on from taxation being a necessary source of state revenue to taxation being a tool to punish people the state doesn't like.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (2ap+5)
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Unpopular take: CDs are sufficient resolution and you don't need to upgrade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (dfIr7)
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234 Newsom has really mastered the Peter Strzok slime ball shoulder shimmy.
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Newsom just called Chaya of Libs of Tik Tok a "shit poster." Classy.
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Newsom just called Chaya of Libs of Tik Tok a "shit poster." Classy.
Posted by: beckster at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM (NLtte)
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Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (/U5Yz)
On the contrary I give a fuck. I love it!!!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (/U5Yz)
On the contrary I give a fuck. I love it!!!
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM (Qr870)
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I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
HDR works really well on OLED screens and poorly on everything else. (It's especially miserable on LCD, which has no contrast).
HDR works really well on OLED screens and poorly on everything else. (It's especially miserable on LCD, which has no contrast).
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (2ocoG)
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Theyre gambling Trump and the feds step in and save LA from spending a dime on helping rebuild. No way they suffer that horrendous backlash and bad press stealing those homes.
Posted by: Shortchanged at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (WbcL6)
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They shut down a taco shop in NM or Ariz. Owner all workers arrested. Owner also illegal. Big house, many guns.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (cn0nj)
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I still say both of Carolla's self produced movies are 3.5 stars out of 4.
I do recall though someone here saying the hated The Hammer. I don't understand that at all.
I do recall though someone here saying the hated The Hammer. I don't understand that at all.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (VofaG)
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279 Governments seem to have moved on from taxation being a necessary source of state revenue to taxation being a tool to punish people the state doesn't like.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (2ap+5)
Obama openly said something to that effect. He was talking about raising marginal tax rates, I believe, and he said something like "even if we bring in less revenue, I don't care." (unfortunately google is enshittified to the point where I can't find the exact quote and am going off memories from like 2010).
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (2ap+5)
Obama openly said something to that effect. He was talking about raising marginal tax rates, I believe, and he said something like "even if we bring in less revenue, I don't care." (unfortunately google is enshittified to the point where I can't find the exact quote and am going off memories from like 2010).
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (uCjyK)
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Think any of these homeowners will get redpilled and stop voting dem every time once they give up rebuilding and move to Denver or Austin or wherever?
doubtful
doubtful
Posted by: brak at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (cn0nj)
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I'm starting to think these man made disaster fires (or most of them) are the "climate change" Greta has been yelling about.
I do not think for one hot second that the Helene NC and TN flooding was "man made." It's happened before, I learned last year, from hurricanes hitting somewhere on the Gulf.
Camp Mystic was built on a flood plain. I would not build on a flood plane if the last flood was 100yrs ago. So I don't think that was "man made."
I don't think the flooding in NYC is "man made." I have read of flooding in subways before, which gives me the willies as sometimes it was bad enough when dry. We did take them, however, in the distant past. The only one that flipped me out was Penn Station once, and the one to the Bronx to see the Botanical Gardens...when you have a moose limb cab driver (from the station) telling you it is "unsafe" you sort of believe him.
I hope this helps turn California RED. I hope this blows up Newscum's future!
The fires in Hawaii and, at least some, in LA were homeless meth head made. Maybe they were paid by someone. Maybe they simply all need to be rounded up and put in asylums. Maybe Bass paid them so she could do this. I will start this rumor!
I do not think for one hot second that the Helene NC and TN flooding was "man made." It's happened before, I learned last year, from hurricanes hitting somewhere on the Gulf.
Camp Mystic was built on a flood plain. I would not build on a flood plane if the last flood was 100yrs ago. So I don't think that was "man made."
I don't think the flooding in NYC is "man made." I have read of flooding in subways before, which gives me the willies as sometimes it was bad enough when dry. We did take them, however, in the distant past. The only one that flipped me out was Penn Station once, and the one to the Bronx to see the Botanical Gardens...when you have a moose limb cab driver (from the station) telling you it is "unsafe" you sort of believe him.
I hope this helps turn California RED. I hope this blows up Newscum's future!
The fires in Hawaii and, at least some, in LA were homeless meth head made. Maybe they were paid by someone. Maybe they simply all need to be rounded up and put in asylums. Maybe Bass paid them so she could do this. I will start this rumor!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)
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The HDR on the 4K stream made it...so dark. It was weird. First HDR I've seen make the image darker. The HD was much brighter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
Exactly. It's mostly a gimmick and a bad one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
Exactly. It's mostly a gimmick and a bad one.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (Qr870)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (Qr870)
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Dolley and I watched the Hunger Games prequel yesterday over our streaming digital footlocker.
The HDR on the 4K stream made it...so dark. It was weird. First HDR I've seen make the image darker. The HD was much brighter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
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There are probably settings or modes making your HDR "dynamic" and adjusting on the fly, which can cause odd results. I'm not a fan of any of the dynamic shit.
I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (Qr870)
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Dolley and I watched the Hunger Games prequel yesterday over our streaming digital footlocker.
The HDR on the 4K stream made it...so dark. It was weird. First HDR I've seen make the image darker. The HD was much brighter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
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There are probably settings or modes making your HDR "dynamic" and adjusting on the fly, which can cause odd results. I'm not a fan of any of the dynamic shit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Keep it up and they'll call you a troll.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM (3k+jV)
I get called a troll all the time, amongst other things.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM (3k+jV)
I get called a troll all the time, amongst other things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (uCjyK)
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Sounds like DataRepublican is getting ready to drop a nuke of her own on NGOs and the money trail.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (viF8m)
The teaser is that it is able to track the kickbacks, and the previously untraceable subsequent sub-grants.
She must have the entire dataset available to her.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (viF8m)
The teaser is that it is able to track the kickbacks, and the previously untraceable subsequent sub-grants.
She must have the entire dataset available to her.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (D7oie)
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The low-income housing is for the neighborhoods and hills around the coast. A lot of people will lose their houses, but some will eventually be allowed to rebuild in those subdivision type neighborhoods in the Palisades.
But those people whose houses are right on the beach in Malibu are probably screwed.
I watched the video Adam Carolla did a few weeks ago giving a tour around the beach and some of the work that had to be done to rebuild there (a lot of pylons covered in concrete & rebar).
A lot of those houses will probably never get a permit to rebuild due to the environmental wackos wanting the beaches to be clear all the way the to the highway.
If they are allowed to rebuild it's probably going to take five years or more to finish the construction.
People will say "Screw it." and move.
Which is what the city and state wanted anyhow.
But those people whose houses are right on the beach in Malibu are probably screwed.
I watched the video Adam Carolla did a few weeks ago giving a tour around the beach and some of the work that had to be done to rebuild there (a lot of pylons covered in concrete & rebar).
A lot of those houses will probably never get a permit to rebuild due to the environmental wackos wanting the beaches to be clear all the way the to the highway.
If they are allowed to rebuild it's probably going to take five years or more to finish the construction.
People will say "Screw it." and move.
Which is what the city and state wanted anyhow.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (6ydKt)
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This sounds spot on but how do the Hawaiian Japanese make out?
They just want the land. Check out the story upthread about the real Japanese and the airport.
They just want the land. Check out the story upthread about the real Japanese and the airport.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (2ocoG)
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And thats the point. They want you to shut up. They really, really want to control who says what. Keep it up and they'll call you a troll.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM
This is not exactly Hyde Park. Not all opinions are welcome. The internet is vast, Joe. Explore it.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM
This is not exactly Hyde Park. Not all opinions are welcome. The internet is vast, Joe. Explore it.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (jc0TO)
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They shut down a taco shop in NM or Ariz. Owner all workers arrested. Owner also illegal. Big house, many guns.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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ICE raids during siesta always work.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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ICE raids during siesta always work.
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (UjdFS)
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Where's the royalty check for use of our plan?
Posted by: Lahaina at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (D0HYP)
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Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (aGKc9)
What is the name of your blog? I would love to see how you have covered this issue.
What is the name of your blog? I would love to see how you have covered this issue.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (L5An7)
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293 There are probably settings or modes making your HDR "dynamic" and adjusting on the fly, which can cause odd results. I'm not a fan of any of the dynamic shit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)
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I've watched more than this movie on this TV with HDR. It might be a bad encode on the stream. I need to throw in the disc to see if it replicates there.
If I were gonna spend money to upgrade my system, I'd go with a TV that does Dolby Vision.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)
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I've watched more than this movie on this TV with HDR. It might be a bad encode on the stream. I need to throw in the disc to see if it replicates there.
If I were gonna spend money to upgrade my system, I'd go with a TV that does Dolby Vision.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)
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Think any of these homeowners will get redpilled and stop voting dem every time once they give up rebuilding and move to Denver or Austin or wherever?
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No, I think they move to Denver or Austin and within a few days are sufficiently bored enough to wonder how they can helps schedule drag shows at the public library and whether their new home city has free needles for the local addicts.
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No, I think they move to Denver or Austin and within a few days are sufficiently bored enough to wonder how they can helps schedule drag shows at the public library and whether their new home city has free needles for the local addicts.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (TN0g+)
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HDR works really well on OLED screens and poorly on everything else. (It's especially miserable on LCD, which has no contrast).
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (2ocoG)
Makes a lot of sense
HDR works really well on OLED screens and poorly on everything else. (It's especially miserable on LCD, which has no contrast).
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (2ocoG)
Makes a lot of sense
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 04:02 PM (Qr870)
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I don't think the flooding in NYC is "man made." I have read of flooding in subways before, which gives me the willies as sometimes it was bad enough when dry. We did take them, however, in the distant past. The only one that flipped me out was Penn Station once, and the one to the Bronx to see the Botanical Gardens...when you have a moose limb cab driver (from the station) telling you it is "unsafe" you sort of believe him.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)
It's been heavily raining on and off for days, and the subway system is, after all, underground. And it's 100 years and maintained about as well as you'd expect, so the pumps get overwhelmed / break pretty regularly.
Oh, and in much of the city (less so in Manhattan) sewage and street drains go to the same pipes, so even if the subway system is able to pump the water out, it has nowhere to go during heavy rain storms.
So the subway tunnels flood. Occasionally. And usually only in low spots.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)
It's been heavily raining on and off for days, and the subway system is, after all, underground. And it's 100 years and maintained about as well as you'd expect, so the pumps get overwhelmed / break pretty regularly.
Oh, and in much of the city (less so in Manhattan) sewage and street drains go to the same pipes, so even if the subway system is able to pump the water out, it has nowhere to go during heavy rain storms.
So the subway tunnels flood. Occasionally. And usually only in low spots.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:02 PM (uCjyK)
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And the low-income apartments will come at a unit cost of at least a million bucks, optimistically.
"Subsidized low-income housing" is a racket.
Doubly so in California.
"Subsidized low-income housing" is a racket.
Doubly so in California.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:02 PM (eS/6S)
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CBC top of the hour. Wildfires.
A competent government would have taken money from the stash and bought a few hundred firefighting planes and trained people.
This has been going on 4 years.
President Trump should slap an extra 5% tariffs on Canada just for the air pollution affecting the US.
A competent government would have taken money from the stash and bought a few hundred firefighting planes and trained people.
This has been going on 4 years.
President Trump should slap an extra 5% tariffs on Canada just for the air pollution affecting the US.
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 11.3 % at July 15, 2025 04:02 PM (jvJvP)
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Addressing the concerns of homeowners at a recent community meeting, Barger told them, "You have lost so much, you shouldn't have to worry about permitting fees getting in the way of rebuilding your home. For most families, these fees may have exceeded $20,000. That's a barrier we cannot allow to stand."
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20 grand in *permitting*?!
How?
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20 grand in *permitting*?!
How?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (eS/6S)
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297 This sounds spot on but how do the Hawaiian Japanese make out?
They just want the land. Check out the story upthread about the real Japanese and the airport.
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When I lived in Oahu, the Japs run all the business. Is there a new management class working in HI?
They just want the land. Check out the story upthread about the real Japanese and the airport.
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When I lived in Oahu, the Japs run all the business. Is there a new management class working in HI?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (W3T6M)
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Water goes downhill.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (cn0nj)
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"It adds expenses that we didn't expect. Like, solar is required on all new builds, and so is the easement from the property line. It's got to be five feet now and ours was only three," says Toomey, as she stands under a backyard oak tree that survived.
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I wonder which solar industry racketeers got that juicy regulation imposed.
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I wonder which solar industry racketeers got that juicy regulation imposed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (eS/6S)
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It is so depressing. Signs throughout Altadena on cleared lots and in front of intact homes: "Altadena is Not for Sale". My local printer has had her business broken into twice in the last 2 weeks -- no policing. She still has no air conditioning. The burned out buildings next to her and in the surrounding blocks still not cleared.
Posted by: la2la at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (NGv4m)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (uCjyK)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (L5An7)
If I just have to copy posts from other blogging sites, I could start tomorrow. I know you're just defending the boss, I get it, but damn, Beege posted this story on Friday.
If I just have to copy posts from other blogging sites, I could start tomorrow. I know you're just defending the boss, I get it, but damn, Beege posted this story on Friday.
Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (aGKc9)
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Exactly. It's mostly a gimmick and a bad one.
It's actually not a gimmick. On a good display it's a better upgrade to overall quality than 4K.
It's actually not a gimmick. On a good display it's a better upgrade to overall quality than 4K.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (2ocoG)
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Not often am I proved correct within twenty posts.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM
You are a master of the trite and obvious.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM
You are a master of the trite and obvious.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (jc0TO)
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Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (3k+jV)
You have more sand in your vagina than Palisades beach.
You have more sand in your vagina than Palisades beach.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (VofaG)
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303 Think any of these homeowners will get redpilled and stop voting dem every time once they give up rebuilding and move to Denver or Austin or wherever?
Even Hawaii, which is massively in the D camp, has about 40% of the population voting for conservatives.
Being that the middle class is pretty well squeezed out of the state, that's absolutely amazing.
In all these places, there are a lot of people who didn't "Vote for this". (Another example is Illinois, which is basically dark red except for Chicago.)
Even Hawaii, which is massively in the D camp, has about 40% of the population voting for conservatives.
Being that the middle class is pretty well squeezed out of the state, that's absolutely amazing.
In all these places, there are a lot of people who didn't "Vote for this". (Another example is Illinois, which is basically dark red except for Chicago.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (N1DT3)
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I wonder which solar industry racketeers got that juicy regulation imposed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (eS/6S)
I imagine it was Solar City / Tesla. They were / are the big player in CA and had / have a lot of lobbyists.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (eS/6S)
I imagine it was Solar City / Tesla. They were / are the big player in CA and had / have a lot of lobbyists.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (uCjyK)
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There are probably settings or modes making your HDR "dynamic" and adjusting on the fly, which can cause odd results. I'm not a fan of any of the dynamic shit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)
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I've watched more than this movie on this TV with HDR. It might be a bad encode on the stream. I need to throw in the disc to see if it replicates there.
If I were gonna spend money to upgrade my system, I'd go with a TV that does Dolby Vision.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)
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DV is better than the HRD version (HDR10+?) but it's also dynamic and depends in part on the encoding on the dics (or streaming feed). All of this is just another tech but it depends on the content and mixing in the source material. A lot of the mixing is crap.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)
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I've watched more than this movie on this TV with HDR. It might be a bad encode on the stream. I need to throw in the disc to see if it replicates there.
If I were gonna spend money to upgrade my system, I'd go with a TV that does Dolby Vision.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)
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DV is better than the HRD version (HDR10+?) but it's also dynamic and depends in part on the encoding on the dics (or streaming feed). All of this is just another tech but it depends on the content and mixing in the source material. A lot of the mixing is crap.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)
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316 Exactly. It's mostly a gimmick and a bad one.
It's actually not a gimmick. On a good display it's a better upgrade to overall quality than 4K.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (2ocoG)
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There are some cinematographers and directors who think it's a gimmick and make the HDR essentially just a shell for the SDR image.
Robert Eggers, for instance.
It's actually not a gimmick. On a good display it's a better upgrade to overall quality than 4K.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (2ocoG)
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There are some cinematographers and directors who think it's a gimmick and make the HDR essentially just a shell for the SDR image.
Robert Eggers, for instance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)
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>>Not often am I proved correct within twenty posts.
You aren't right. People argue here daily, on virtually every thread. It's kind of the point.
You aren't right. People argue here daily, on virtually every thread. It's kind of the point.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)
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I hope this helps turn California RED. I hope this blows up Newscum's future!
The fires in Hawaii and, at least some, in LA were homeless meth head made. Maybe they were paid by someone. Maybe they simply all need to be rounded up and put in asylums. Maybe Bass paid them so she could do this. I will start this rumor!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)
Newscums future is a waste for a large number of reasons, so at least we got that going for us. Hoping for any good results of California voting is futile, because the voting system has become so systemically corrupt that the people there no longer are allowed to do any voting, not in any real sense.
Seriously, when the corruption in California voting is explained, any sane person will say "that isn't possible, that can't be legal, can it?" Well yes it is, and it guarantees one party rule.
Democrat Party operative are allowed to collect and fill out tens of thousands of ballots themselves, without the voter ever having seen them. Legal in California.
The fires in Hawaii and, at least some, in LA were homeless meth head made. Maybe they were paid by someone. Maybe they simply all need to be rounded up and put in asylums. Maybe Bass paid them so she could do this. I will start this rumor!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)
Newscums future is a waste for a large number of reasons, so at least we got that going for us. Hoping for any good results of California voting is futile, because the voting system has become so systemically corrupt that the people there no longer are allowed to do any voting, not in any real sense.
Seriously, when the corruption in California voting is explained, any sane person will say "that isn't possible, that can't be legal, can it?" Well yes it is, and it guarantees one party rule.
Democrat Party operative are allowed to collect and fill out tens of thousands of ballots themselves, without the voter ever having seen them. Legal in California.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (uWKK8)
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The very long and tedious process, which is beginning to look as if it's specifically designed to soak as much money out of the homeowner as possible before they give up in disgust and move elsewhere.
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Yes and no. It's designed to soak money out of the builder, period. In this case, the builder happens to be a homeowner.
Like all artificial barriers, these are in place to ensure that the anointed and connected - whether builder or purchaser - can play. The builder has to know how and who to grease, and to afford the grease. The purchaser has to pay for all the grease at all levels.
If you're not rich or connected or both, you're frozen out.
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Yes and no. It's designed to soak money out of the builder, period. In this case, the builder happens to be a homeowner.
Like all artificial barriers, these are in place to ensure that the anointed and connected - whether builder or purchaser - can play. The builder has to know how and who to grease, and to afford the grease. The purchaser has to pay for all the grease at all levels.
If you're not rich or connected or both, you're frozen out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (eS/6S)
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In all these places, there are a lot of people who didn't "Vote for this". (Another example is Illinois, which is basically dark red except for Chicago.)
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Well, East St. Louis would like to have a word with you.
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Well, East St. Louis would like to have a word with you.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (W3T6M)
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I have some opinions that wouldn't be necessarily welcome here, so I don't post them. I'm not here to convert, I am here to be amused.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (jc0TO)
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When I lived in Oahu, the Japs run all the business. Is there a new management class working in HI?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (W3T6M)
Hawaii is the only state that is not majority white.
It is majority Asian-descent. So it would be still mostly run by Asians.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (W3T6M)
Hawaii is the only state that is not majority white.
It is majority Asian-descent. So it would be still mostly run by Asians.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)
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April 16, 2008 Democratic Debate
Charlie Gibson:
“In each instance when the [capital gains] rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased. The government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28%, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?”
Barack Obama:
“Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.”
Charlie Gibson:
“In each instance when the [capital gains] rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased. The government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28%, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?”
Barack Obama:
“Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.”
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (2ap+5)
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At what point...
should we start saying that anyone who can afford to leave CA, and doesn't, has only him/herself to blame?
Are people staying in CA because they think it will get... BETTER?
All historical analyses are imperfect, and they break down completely in time, but CA reminds me of the French Revolution a bit. The normals assumed it HAD to get better, right? Right?
Like the DEM Party itself, I submit that CA has reached a tipping point now. The governing class keeps getting dragged further & further left. I see nothing to stop that trend, until the arrival of chaos-- a breakdown of all the public amenities & services that normals take for granted.
should we start saying that anyone who can afford to leave CA, and doesn't, has only him/herself to blame?
Are people staying in CA because they think it will get... BETTER?
All historical analyses are imperfect, and they break down completely in time, but CA reminds me of the French Revolution a bit. The normals assumed it HAD to get better, right? Right?
Like the DEM Party itself, I submit that CA has reached a tipping point now. The governing class keeps getting dragged further & further left. I see nothing to stop that trend, until the arrival of chaos-- a breakdown of all the public amenities & services that normals take for granted.
Posted by: mnw at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (kd60y)
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Well, East St. Louis would like to have a word with you.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (W3T6M)
Hence the "basically".
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (W3T6M)
Hence the "basically".
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)
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323 >>Not often am I proved correct within twenty posts.
You aren't right. People argue here daily, on virtually every thread. It's kind of the point.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)
No we don't.
You aren't right. People argue here daily, on virtually every thread. It's kind of the point.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)
No we don't.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (CzMNg)
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The only one that flipped me out was Penn Station once, and the one to the Bronx to see the Botanical Gardens...when you have a moose limb cab driver (from the station) telling you it is "unsafe" you sort of believe him.
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Reminds me of former co-worker who spent a year or so in Iraq as a dod civilian employee. Whoever they went anywhere they had army escourts with guns to share. Said they were driving through some shithole and their terp shrunk down low, "Oooh, this is bad neighborhood".
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Reminds me of former co-worker who spent a year or so in Iraq as a dod civilian employee. Whoever they went anywhere they had army escourts with guns to share. Said they were driving through some shithole and their terp shrunk down low, "Oooh, this is bad neighborhood".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (/lPRQ)
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So blot as in Soviet Russia?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (cn0nj)
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321 DV is better than the HRD version (HDR10+?) but it's also dynamic and depends in part on the encoding on the dics (or streaming feed). All of this is just another tech but it depends on the content and mixing in the source material. A lot of the mixing is crap.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)
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Yeah, but I've just consistently read that problems people have with color and light on HDR layers get fixed with the Dolby Vision layer.
It's like any authoring and encoding from the advent of the digital age on. It can be good. It can be bad.
Just because LOTR's DVD looked great didn't mean that Ballistics Ecks vs Sever was gonna look good.
Same with Dark City's HDR looking great vs. Hunger Games prequel.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)
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Yeah, but I've just consistently read that problems people have with color and light on HDR layers get fixed with the Dolby Vision layer.
It's like any authoring and encoding from the advent of the digital age on. It can be good. It can be bad.
Just because LOTR's DVD looked great didn't mean that Ballistics Ecks vs Sever was gonna look good.
Same with Dark City's HDR looking great vs. Hunger Games prequel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, East St. Louis would like to have a word with you.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (W3T6M)
Hence the "basically".
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)
You can usually toss in the University towns as well, but even they aren't deep blue like Chicago.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (W3T6M)
Hence the "basically".
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)
You can usually toss in the University towns as well, but even they aren't deep blue like Chicago.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (N1DT3)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (uCjyK)
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It won't be 'low cost' housing. It'll be million dollar condos owned by one of two FIRE firms renting them out. The 'low cost' units will be give-aways for show.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (mlg/3)
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323 You aren't right. People argue here daily, on virtually every thread. It's kind of the point.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)
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No it isn't.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)
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No it isn't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)
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Think any of these homeowners will get redpilled and stop voting dem every time once they give up rebuilding and move to Denver or Austin or wherever?
I think it depends on the people . The left wing media does not have a lock on news anymore so when they see their politicians not giving a darn they may move , but still they may think " I've had it with Democrats. " It does happen. I got red pilled and I was not having to deal with the criminal ineptitude of D. politicians after a fire.
I think it depends on the people . The left wing media does not have a lock on news anymore so when they see their politicians not giving a darn they may move , but still they may think " I've had it with Democrats. " It does happen. I got red pilled and I was not having to deal with the criminal ineptitude of D. politicians after a fire.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (2GCMq)
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((solar is required on all new builds))
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Wow, I didn't know that. That seems to be overreach LMAO. It, also, seems to be a government entity conspiring against providers of other forms of energy. I could see how they can get away with requiring the installation to some extent. But, I don't even the State of California can mandate its use. That pesky ole' Fifth Amendment of the Constitution states under Property Rights that you can generate you own energy.
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Wow, I didn't know that. That seems to be overreach LMAO. It, also, seems to be a government entity conspiring against providers of other forms of energy. I could see how they can get away with requiring the installation to some extent. But, I don't even the State of California can mandate its use. That pesky ole' Fifth Amendment of the Constitution states under Property Rights that you can generate you own energy.
Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (dIske)
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No it isn't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM
This is simple negation. I paid for an argument.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM
This is simple negation. I paid for an argument.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (jc0TO)
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I don't get this about floods.
I have seen floods in unexpected places for the past 60 years. I remember growing up, it seemed every year some country in S.E Asia was loosing a few hundred thousand to floods.
Floods happen.
Look at the radar maps and you will see these deep red spots of 2" or 4" or more of rain per hour - they are usually small, but if they hit your valley or something upstream, you will flood.
This is the nature of floods. Suddenly now it is caused by SUVs?
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.
I have seen floods in unexpected places for the past 60 years. I remember growing up, it seemed every year some country in S.E Asia was loosing a few hundred thousand to floods.
Floods happen.
Look at the radar maps and you will see these deep red spots of 2" or 4" or more of rain per hour - they are usually small, but if they hit your valley or something upstream, you will flood.
This is the nature of floods. Suddenly now it is caused by SUVs?
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (S6/Nv)
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California is sunny.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (cn0nj)
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Hawaii is the only state that is not majority white.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)
For now.
Also, I don't think that's even true now. CA and TX come to mind. CA is a plurality hispanic, and I believe TX is as well.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)
For now.
Also, I don't think that's even true now. CA and TX come to mind. CA is a plurality hispanic, and I believe TX is as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)
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This is simple negation. I paid for an argument.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (jc0TO)
You most certainly did not
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (jc0TO)
You most certainly did not
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (N1DT3)
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You have to go out of your way for HDR content just as much as you do for full 4K content.
The streaming services have 4K/HDR on some stuff, but you have to pay extra for it.
I think HBO Max has 4K/HDR automatically if the source is in 4K and it detects your screen is capable.
It will become more common in the next decade, and then 8K Mini-LED will be the new thing.
The streaming services have 4K/HDR on some stuff, but you have to pay extra for it.
I think HBO Max has 4K/HDR automatically if the source is in 4K and it detects your screen is capable.
It will become more common in the next decade, and then 8K Mini-LED will be the new thing.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (6ydKt)
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It is majority Asian-descent. So it would be still mostly run by Asians.
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (W3T6M)
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348 It is majority Asian-descent. So it would be still mostly run by Asians.
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (W3T6M)
Make Hawaii Polynesian Again!
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (W3T6M)
Make Hawaii Polynesian Again!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (uCjyK)
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Texas is majority white by a good percentage.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)
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This is the nature of floods. Suddenly now it is caused by SUVs?
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.
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Objection! Assumes "experts" are attempting competence rather than propaganda.
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.
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Objection! Assumes "experts" are attempting competence rather than propaganda.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (TN0g+)
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (W3T6M)
There's a lot of Philipinos, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese and other assorted countries as well.
There's a monument to the (a?) founder of Taiwan on Maui.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (W3T6M)
There's a lot of Philipinos, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese and other assorted countries as well.
There's a monument to the (a?) founder of Taiwan on Maui.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (N1DT3)
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350 Texas is majority white by a good percentage.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)
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Most Hispanics consider themselves white, too.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)
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Most Hispanics consider themselves white, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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I know you're just defending the boss, I get it, but damn, Beege posted this story on Friday.
Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (aGKc9)
Ace isn't my boss, and I am not defending him. I am calling you out for being a jerk. If you don't like the timeliness of the content, then leave.
Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (aGKc9)
Ace isn't my boss, and I am not defending him. I am calling you out for being a jerk. If you don't like the timeliness of the content, then leave.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (L5An7)
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Speaking of Polynesians, I've been reading a few books on the subject this summer.
It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (uCjyK)
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Texas counts white hispanics iirc.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (cn0nj)
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The only thing worse on here than taking yourself too seriously is taking the other people to seriously.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (Qr870)
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For the lower income homeowners whose houses did not burn -- no help. One person I know of is digging up the toxic soil on her property by herself. Army Corps said it wouldn't help because she didn't lose her home. Her insurance adjuster said it would have been better if her house had burned down. She still has thousands of dollars of repairs to do and the insurance covered less than 1/3.
Posted by: la2la at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (NGv4m)
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Make Hawaii Polynesian Again!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM
Per my haole brother, there are barely any Polynesians to be seen there anymore.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM
Per my haole brother, there are barely any Polynesians to be seen there anymore.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (UjdFS)
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There are some cinematographers and directors who think it's a gimmick and make the HDR essentially just a shell for the SDR image.
Which is funny because the best filmed HDR content I've seen has been on YouTube shot on iPhones. Concert bootlegs in particular are the killer app for HDR. The bright stage lights and pyro effects don't blow out the image with HDR, so you can still see all the other detail. John Wick 4 on Apple TV+ was a good transfer also, but Hollywood's been very hit and miss on it.
Which is funny because the best filmed HDR content I've seen has been on YouTube shot on iPhones. Concert bootlegs in particular are the killer app for HDR. The bright stage lights and pyro effects don't blow out the image with HDR, so you can still see all the other detail. John Wick 4 on Apple TV+ was a good transfer also, but Hollywood's been very hit and miss on it.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (2ocoG)
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Also, I don't think that's even true now. CA and TX come to mind. CA is a plurality hispanic, and I believe TX is as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)
Something like 40% of TX is Hispanic.
But I have no idea what that actually means, given that a bunch of Hispanics are or consider themselves to be White. Hispanic is kind of a dumb classification.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)
Something like 40% of TX is Hispanic.
But I have no idea what that actually means, given that a bunch of Hispanics are or consider themselves to be White. Hispanic is kind of a dumb classification.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (CzMNg)
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356 Texas counts white hispanics iirc.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (cn0nj)
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Also, Hispanic isn't a race. Most Hispanics consider themselves white.
The descendants of Cortez don't really think of themselves as much more than European descended.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (cn0nj)
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Also, Hispanic isn't a race. Most Hispanics consider themselves white.
The descendants of Cortez don't really think of themselves as much more than European descended.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Also, I don't think that's even true now. CA and TX come to mind. CA is a plurality hispanic, and I believe TX is as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)
The fun part is that "Hispanic" is not a distinct racial group, and it gets less and less so each year. It used to be people who spoke Spanish at home, but now it's mainly white people who have a Spanish sounding last name.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)
The fun part is that "Hispanic" is not a distinct racial group, and it gets less and less so each year. It used to be people who spoke Spanish at home, but now it's mainly white people who have a Spanish sounding last name.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (uWKK8)
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Texas is majority white by a good percentage.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)
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Most Hispanics consider themselves white, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Upper class Hispanics definitely consider themselves white. They consider lower class hispanics something other than white, though. Funny that. As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)
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Most Hispanics consider themselves white, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Upper class Hispanics definitely consider themselves white. They consider lower class hispanics something other than white, though. Funny that. As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)
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Listen people, the law is the law. We can't just make exceptions because of a fire. These laws are there to protect the public. The permitting process is vital and can not be shortchanged.
Wait a sec. I got to handle this phone call.
What? Sure, let the "newcomers" fly without ID. And naw, we aint got time to oversee the housing or do the bid process on the NGOs. Just hand out the money fast, this is an emergency!
Wait a sec. I got to handle this phone call.
What? Sure, let the "newcomers" fly without ID. And naw, we aint got time to oversee the housing or do the bid process on the NGOs. Just hand out the money fast, this is an emergency!
Posted by: The Leftists in Charge at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (S6/Nv)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKb
How come you never mentioned James Clavell was a director and not just a novelist?
He would have been the last person I'd guess that directed To Sir, With Love.
How come you never mentioned James Clavell was a director and not just a novelist?
He would have been the last person I'd guess that directed To Sir, With Love.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (VofaG)
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If Newsom was smart, which he is not, he would have someone plant a few old Indian bones here and there. He could then declare it an ancient very SACRED native American burial site. Try getting that past a permitting committee.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)
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350 Texas is majority white by a good percentage.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)
According to slightly outdated numbers on wiki: 40% white, 40% hispanic, 12% black, then the rest.
Google's AI says 39% white, 41% hispanic, although that seems like splitting hairs.
So like I said, it's not majority white (50%+ of the population isnt white) and it's a plurality hispanic (the largest ethnic group in TX is hispanic, followed by whites)
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)
According to slightly outdated numbers on wiki: 40% white, 40% hispanic, 12% black, then the rest.
Google's AI says 39% white, 41% hispanic, although that seems like splitting hairs.
So like I said, it's not majority white (50%+ of the population isnt white) and it's a plurality hispanic (the largest ethnic group in TX is hispanic, followed by whites)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (uCjyK)
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358 It will become more common in the next decade, and then 8K Mini-LED will be the new thing.
I wonder if they'll hit a point where most eyes can't tell. Like ears with analog vs digital. I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (pb1DT)
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We're essentially there.
You have to be within a few feet to tell the difference between 4K and 1080p content on a commonly sized screen (60-80 inches) most of the time. There will be exceptions (Dunkirk is just...gorgeous, but that's probably because of the IMAX source more than anything else).
There will be attempts to advance it further, but it'll really be for theaters and just showy home theater stuff like full wall screens.
I wonder if they'll hit a point where most eyes can't tell. Like ears with analog vs digital. I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (pb1DT)
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We're essentially there.
You have to be within a few feet to tell the difference between 4K and 1080p content on a commonly sized screen (60-80 inches) most of the time. There will be exceptions (Dunkirk is just...gorgeous, but that's probably because of the IMAX source more than anything else).
There will be attempts to advance it further, but it'll really be for theaters and just showy home theater stuff like full wall screens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (GBKbO)
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The topic is still relevant no matter the age of the article.
Ace will be able to come back to this L.A. rebuilding story for years.
He's not exactly trying to break news on CNN here.
Ace will be able to come back to this L.A. rebuilding story for years.
He's not exactly trying to break news on CNN here.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (6ydKt)
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Per my haole brother, there are barely any Polynesians to be seen there anymore.
Posted by: toby928
Only on Niihau, I think.
Posted by: toby928
Only on Niihau, I think.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (77rzZ)
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He came dancing across the water
With his galleons and guns
Looking for the new world
And the palace in the sun
With his galleons and guns
Looking for the new world
And the palace in the sun
Posted by: Cortez The K. at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (TN0g+)
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Texas is majority white by a good percentage.
They're loud by a good majority. Absolutely the loudest people I've ever heard.
They're loud by a good majority. Absolutely the loudest people I've ever heard.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (pb1DT)
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367 How come you never mentioned James Clavell was a director and not just a novelist?
He would have been the last person I'd guess that directed To Sir, With Love.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (VofaG)
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*shrugs*
I guess I just didn't know.
I do own To Sir, With Love, though. In 4K even.
It was part of a Columbia Classics set. It's a pretty good movie.
He would have been the last person I'd guess that directed To Sir, With Love.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (VofaG)
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*shrugs*
I guess I just didn't know.
I do own To Sir, With Love, though. In 4K even.
It was part of a Columbia Classics set. It's a pretty good movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Did someone get nuked?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (cn0nj)
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It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Same way the Greeks did - when you suffer over-population pile a bunch of people onto boats and off you go. Good luck!
Some found land, others not so much.
It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Same way the Greeks did - when you suffer over-population pile a bunch of people onto boats and off you go. Good luck!
Some found land, others not so much.
It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)
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Another interesting trend in what you may call the lower classes is the intermarriage of blacks and hispanics. I'm not sure what they call themselves, but I think ZZ Topp wrote a song about it.
Anyway the number of "pure" black kids keeps dropping every year, in part because of this.
Anyway the number of "pure" black kids keeps dropping every year, in part because of this.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (uWKK8)
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372 Did someone get nuked?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (cn0nj)
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Todd.
Fucking Todd.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (cn0nj)
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Todd.
Fucking Todd.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm shocked, shocked....well not that shocked. California is as California does.
Posted by: Farquad at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (yqgaV)
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead
The Honolulu Whorehouse Hironos.
Posted by: pudinhead
The Honolulu Whorehouse Hironos.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (4IClK)
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Only on Niihau, I think.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM
I think that's the one place he's met them. He tells a funny story about that and since he sometimes lurks, he might share it rather than be butchering the tale.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM
I think that's the one place he's met them. He tells a funny story about that and since he sometimes lurks, he might share it rather than be butchering the tale.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (jc0TO)
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20 grand in *permitting*?!
Paid to Public Sector Employees who you have already paid to do their job.
Paid to Public Sector Employees who you have already paid to do their job.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (v4Xg4)
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Upper class Hispanics definitely consider themselves white. They consider lower class hispanics something other than white, though. Funny that. As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)
The upper class of most central and southern american countries is white of European descent.
But large portions of the population are mixed (mestizo) or indigenous (depending on the country. Argentina, for example is almost 100% white, Guatamala is 40% or so) or, of course, black descendants of slaves.
In the US, we just lump them all together.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)
The upper class of most central and southern american countries is white of European descent.
But large portions of the population are mixed (mestizo) or indigenous (depending on the country. Argentina, for example is almost 100% white, Guatamala is 40% or so) or, of course, black descendants of slaves.
In the US, we just lump them all together.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (uCjyK)
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Ace isn't my boss, and I am not defending him. I am calling you out for being a jerk. If you don't like the timeliness of the content, then leave.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (L5An7)
And you are not my boss, I'll call it like I see it. Ace loves to dish it out, if he can't handle taking a little back when warranted, not my problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (L5An7)
And you are not my boss, I'll call it like I see it. Ace loves to dish it out, if he can't handle taking a little back when warranted, not my problem.
Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (aGKc9)
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Did someone get nuked?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (cn0nj)
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Todd.
Fucking Todd.
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Todd's cool!
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (cn0nj)
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Todd.
Fucking Todd.
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Todd's cool!
Posted by: Butthead at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (TN0g+)
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It will become more common in the next decade, and then 8K Mini-LED will be the new thing.
I wonder if they'll hit a point where most eyes can't tell. Like ears with analog vs digital. I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (pb1DT)
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We're essentially there.
You have to be within a few feet to tell the difference between 4K and 1080p content on a commonly sized screen (60-80 inches) most of the time. There will be exceptions (Dunkirk is just...gorgeous, but that's probably because of the IMAX source more than anything else).
There will be attempts to advance it further, but it'll really be for theaters and just showy home theater stuff like full wall screens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (GBKbO)
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I agree but it depends on the quality of the source content. I despise streaming because of the often-sketchy quality. I watch only 4K discs (and BR where 4K isn't available). You can definitely tell the difference b/t 4K disc content on a 4K TV (where the entire pipeline is 4K) as compared to 1080p.
I wonder if they'll hit a point where most eyes can't tell. Like ears with analog vs digital. I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (pb1DT)
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We're essentially there.
You have to be within a few feet to tell the difference between 4K and 1080p content on a commonly sized screen (60-80 inches) most of the time. There will be exceptions (Dunkirk is just...gorgeous, but that's probably because of the IMAX source more than anything else).
There will be attempts to advance it further, but it'll really be for theaters and just showy home theater stuff like full wall screens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (GBKbO)
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I agree but it depends on the quality of the source content. I despise streaming because of the often-sketchy quality. I watch only 4K discs (and BR where 4K isn't available). You can definitely tell the difference b/t 4K disc content on a 4K TV (where the entire pipeline is 4K) as compared to 1080p.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (iFTx/)
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Back again.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (cn0nj)
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380 The upper class of most central and southern american countries is white of European descent.
But large portions of the population are mixed (mestizo) or indigenous (depending on the country. Argentina, for example is almost 100% white, Guatamala is 40% or so) or, of course, black descendants of slaves.
In the US, we just lump them all together.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (uCjyK)
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When it comes to things like census and polling, though, it's almost all self-reporting.
Which causes one to wonder if anyone's trying to "control" for a meaningless label that those assigned to it don't actually want any part in.
But large portions of the population are mixed (mestizo) or indigenous (depending on the country. Argentina, for example is almost 100% white, Guatamala is 40% or so) or, of course, black descendants of slaves.
In the US, we just lump them all together.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (uCjyK)
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When it comes to things like census and polling, though, it's almost all self-reporting.
Which causes one to wonder if anyone's trying to "control" for a meaningless label that those assigned to it don't actually want any part in.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (GBKbO)
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no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Like sailors throughout history, they followed the birds. When they saw birds they knew there had to be land in that direction.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Like sailors throughout history, they followed the birds. When they saw birds they knew there had to be land in that direction.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (S6/Nv)
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I've carefully avoided finding out what it meant to have a momma who's mizzikin and a daddy who's an ace of spades.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (2ap+5)
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355 Speaking of Polynesians, I've been reading a few books on the subject this summer.
It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
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Watched a show on the Amazon. Turns out the indigenous people of the Amazon came from New Guinea and Australia. Seems Kon Tikki was correct. They estimate this happened 12,000 years ago. I have no idea how big the Pacific was 12k years ago.
It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
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Watched a show on the Amazon. Turns out the indigenous people of the Amazon came from New Guinea and Australia. Seems Kon Tikki was correct. They estimate this happened 12,000 years ago. I have no idea how big the Pacific was 12k years ago.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (W3T6M)
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But I have no idea what that actually means, given that a bunch of Hispanics are or consider themselves to be White. Hispanic is kind of a dumb classification.
Hispanic is made up. Spaniards are literally Caucasian Europeans. A lot of them are nearly as white as Ace.
Hispanic is made up. Spaniards are literally Caucasian Europeans. A lot of them are nearly as white as Ace.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (2ocoG)
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A British family went on a trip to France and got a surprise. some direct cultural enrichment.
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LOL
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LOL
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (/U5Yz)
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead
The Honolulu Whorehouse Hironos.
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The Los Angeles Dodger's farm team?
Posted by: pudinhead
The Honolulu Whorehouse Hironos.
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The Los Angeles Dodger's farm team?
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (pb1DT)
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This is the nature of floods. Suddenly now it is caused by SUVs?
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (S6/Nv)
When you get 20" of rain or more in one day, on already saturated ground, all that water has to go somewhere. In the case of the NC Mountains it went down. In the case of sandy soil in FL it rises and then flows naturally.
NC had a cold front with 4" of rain. It then met Helene with up to 30" of rain and the water had no where to go. Similar story of a lotta rain in Texas in a day or so.
I have experienced 22" of rain in a day. It is unreal, even without flooding. Imagine a fire hose on your roof type rain...seriously.
But I have read the recent rain in Texas was man made. I don't think so! In NM they have arroyos. Mostly dry until a lotta rain. Same with slot canyons in national parks. People read the signs and get caught anyway.
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (S6/Nv)
When you get 20" of rain or more in one day, on already saturated ground, all that water has to go somewhere. In the case of the NC Mountains it went down. In the case of sandy soil in FL it rises and then flows naturally.
NC had a cold front with 4" of rain. It then met Helene with up to 30" of rain and the water had no where to go. Similar story of a lotta rain in Texas in a day or so.
I have experienced 22" of rain in a day. It is unreal, even without flooding. Imagine a fire hose on your roof type rain...seriously.
But I have read the recent rain in Texas was man made. I don't think so! In NM they have arroyos. Mostly dry until a lotta rain. Same with slot canyons in national parks. People read the signs and get caught anyway.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (6PCLE)
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Nood
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (GYt5+)
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Democrats have perfected the art of prospering from failure.
The worse they govern, the more powerful and richer they become.
The worse they govern, the more powerful and richer they become.
Posted by: 29Victor at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (j6Ika)
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383 I agree but it depends on the quality of the source content. I despise streaming because of the often-sketchy quality. I watch only 4K discs (and BR where 4K isn't available). You can definitely tell the difference b/t 4K disc content on a 4K TV (where the entire pipeline is 4K) as compared to 1080p.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (iFTx/)
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Yeah, my discs do tend to look better than the streams.
And IMAX footage is just...gorgeous in 4K.
They Odyssey, 100% filmed in IMAX, is gonna look bangin' on my home screen.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (iFTx/)
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Yeah, my discs do tend to look better than the streams.
And IMAX footage is just...gorgeous in 4K.
They Odyssey, 100% filmed in IMAX, is gonna look bangin' on my home screen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Same way the Greeks did - when you suffer over-population pile a bunch of people onto boats and off you go. Good luck!
Some found land, others not so much.
It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)
They've done models on this -- starting with canoes / primitive wooden boats on islands and see how many would hit land on other islands based on wind and currents.
It was astronomically low. Like almost none. And some islands that would never be hit by any boat regardless of where it launched from due to the way the winds and currents work in the Pacific. And yet people were living there when the Europeans showed up.
Some found land, others not so much.
It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)
They've done models on this -- starting with canoes / primitive wooden boats on islands and see how many would hit land on other islands based on wind and currents.
It was astronomically low. Like almost none. And some islands that would never be hit by any boat regardless of where it launched from due to the way the winds and currents work in the Pacific. And yet people were living there when the Europeans showed up.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK)
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373 It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Same way the Greeks did - when you suffer over-population pile a bunch of people onto boats and off you go. Good luck!
Some found land, others not so much.
It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)
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I think it's basically because once every few generations a large group within the island get tired of the man and his B.S., and the system hassling them, jump in their boats with friends & family and sail east until the see birds and hit land.
Keep doing that for a few thousand years and you hit New Zealand.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Same way the Greeks did - when you suffer over-population pile a bunch of people onto boats and off you go. Good luck!
Some found land, others not so much.
It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)
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I think it's basically because once every few generations a large group within the island get tired of the man and his B.S., and the system hassling them, jump in their boats with friends & family and sail east until the see birds and hit land.
Keep doing that for a few thousand years and you hit New Zealand.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (6ydKt)
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The Austronesian language family started on the island of Formosa. Then folks from Formosa spread that language family from Madagascar to Easter Island.
One of the more incredible migrations in human history.
One of the more incredible migrations in human history.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (77rzZ)
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It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)
Someone once, might have been Thor Heyerdahl wondering how they could have navigated by the stars whenever there were storms, or overcast. But he was working with some of them, learning how they sailed, and he found out that the Polynesians knew the sky so well that even on a badly overcast night, they just had to see one star for a few minutes and they could figure out exactly where they were.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)
Someone once, might have been Thor Heyerdahl wondering how they could have navigated by the stars whenever there were storms, or overcast. But he was working with some of them, learning how they sailed, and he found out that the Polynesians knew the sky so well that even on a badly overcast night, they just had to see one star for a few minutes and they could figure out exactly where they were.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (uWKK8)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)
It's a great movie IMO. Clavell also wrote the screenplay to The Great Escape.
It's a great movie IMO. Clavell also wrote the screenplay to The Great Escape.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (VofaG)
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Watched a show on the Amazon. Turns out the indigenous people of the Amazon came from New Guinea and Australia. Seems Kon Tikki was correct. They estimate this happened 12,000 years ago. I have no idea how big the Pacific was 12k years ago.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (W3T6M)
Pacific was the same size as today. But also, that's very ... not accepted by the mainstream (although possible).
They think the original Polynesians originated somewhere on the Indian subcontinent and made their way to New Zealand before somehow spreading out over tens of thousands of miles to find tiny islands in the Pacific.
Which is ... just hard to wrap your mind around.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (W3T6M)
Pacific was the same size as today. But also, that's very ... not accepted by the mainstream (although possible).
They think the original Polynesians originated somewhere on the Indian subcontinent and made their way to New Zealand before somehow spreading out over tens of thousands of miles to find tiny islands in the Pacific.
Which is ... just hard to wrap your mind around.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (uCjyK)
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As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)
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No, Elric, we have an Empire of Ghettoes Problem.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)
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No, Elric, we have an Empire of Ghettoes Problem.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (W3T6M)
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But large portions of the population are mixed (mestizo) or indigenous (depending on the country. Argentina, for example is almost 100% white, Guatamala is 40% or so) or, of course, black descendants of slaves.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
This is a very sensitive subject (it makes them tetchy? that word is not used enough.)
So "officially" they say there are no races. No blacks, no natives, no Europeans. But lately the "indigenous" want their special status as the people who got all their land stolen from them by whitey. And black want their due as victims of slavery (Why are they all so eager to say their ancestors are losers?) so it is coming to the fore.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
This is a very sensitive subject (it makes them tetchy? that word is not used enough.)
So "officially" they say there are no races. No blacks, no natives, no Europeans. But lately the "indigenous" want their special status as the people who got all their land stolen from them by whitey. And black want their due as victims of slavery (Why are they all so eager to say their ancestors are losers?) so it is coming to the fore.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (S6/Nv)
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Is this where we start discussing Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World and whether it's as good as it's made out to be?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (6ydKt)
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Pacific was the same size as today. But also, that's very ... not accepted by the mainstream (although possible).
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Drop the Pacific by 400 feet and show me what it looks like. Bet a shit ton of islands appear.
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Drop the Pacific by 400 feet and show me what it looks like. Bet a shit ton of islands appear.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (W3T6M)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (S6/Nv)
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Like sailors throughout history, they followed the birds. When they saw birds they knew there had to be land in that direction.
Posted by: bob
My luck, I'd follow the birds who don't hit land for their first six years...
Posted by: bob
My luck, I'd follow the birds who don't hit land for their first six years...
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (4IClK)
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Which is ... just hard to wrap your mind around.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (uCjyK)
For us.
For them the ocean was everything and they we're good sailors.
It's theorized they made it all the way to Chile after Easter Island.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (uCjyK)
For us.
For them the ocean was everything and they we're good sailors.
It's theorized they made it all the way to Chile after Easter Island.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (6ydKt)
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Good news, everyone!
Dexerto@Dexerto
Fantastic Four skins are coming to Fortnite
It is one of the most wanted collabs ever
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Fantastic Four skins are coming to Fortnite
It is one of the most wanted collabs ever
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (L/fGl)
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They think the original Polynesians originated somewhere on the Indian subcontinent and made their way to New Zealand before somehow spreading out over tens of thousands of miles to find tiny islands in the Pacific.
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What I've heard is the Māori are actually descended from the indigenous inhabitants of Formosa. They got pushed out by the Chinese.
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What I've heard is the Māori are actually descended from the indigenous inhabitants of Formosa. They got pushed out by the Chinese.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (W3T6M)
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Fantastic Four skins are coming to Fortnite
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So how's The Invisible Girl's skin going to work?
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So how's The Invisible Girl's skin going to work?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (6ydKt)
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white Hispanics
The DEMs made an awful mistake by assuming these voters would accept inclusion among "black and brown people."
On a somewhat related topic, Mexican illegal aliens are NOT a representative sample of all Mexicans. They are dark skinned people from southern Mexico, for the most part.
The DEMs made an awful mistake by assuming these voters would accept inclusion among "black and brown people."
On a somewhat related topic, Mexican illegal aliens are NOT a representative sample of all Mexicans. They are dark skinned people from southern Mexico, for the most part.
Posted by: mnw at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (kd60y)
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I think it wasn't too long ago the CA DOJ and Gov. Hairgel promised to prosecute any real estate agents that unfairly lowballed the homeowners in the fire zone. Now the state will lowball them and turn around and sell the new low income housing tractor to developer. Heck of a scam right there.
Posted by: RichJ at July 15, 2025 04:29 PM (N+PhT)
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Micronesias had maps of ocean swells caused by the various atolls and seamounts. Color of clouds above tolls differes from open ocean.
Recently, maybe still, you'd have them jump into a boat and go visit relatives hundreds of miles away.
Then you have the various stars, birds, etc.
Recently, maybe still, you'd have them jump into a boat and go visit relatives hundreds of miles away.
Then you have the various stars, birds, etc.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM (/lPRQ)
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I ask ChatGPT, "Why do low-income people never qualify for low-income housing?
Here is what it says:
This is a painful irony that many people face: low-income people often don’t qualify for low-income housing due to a combination of systemic, bureaucratic, and economic barriers. Here are the most common reasons why:
1. Minimum Income Requirements
Many subsidized or income-restricted housing programs still require a minimum income to ensure tenants can afford rent—even if it's reduced.
Why this happens: Property managers need to be sure that rent (even subsidized) will be paid. If someone’s income is too low—even if they qualify by poverty standards—they may be denied for being “too poor.”
2. Extremely Long Waitlists
Demand for low-income housing vastly exceeds supply, especially in major cities.
Result: Many people wait years or even decades for housing assistance (like Section 8 vouchers or public housing).
Some waitlists are closed entirely because they’re overwhelmed.
3. Strict Eligibility Criteria
Eligibility is often based on more than just income:
Credit history: Poor or no credit can disqualify applicants.
Criminal background: Certain charges—even old or minor ones
Here is what it says:
This is a painful irony that many people face: low-income people often don’t qualify for low-income housing due to a combination of systemic, bureaucratic, and economic barriers. Here are the most common reasons why:
1. Minimum Income Requirements
Many subsidized or income-restricted housing programs still require a minimum income to ensure tenants can afford rent—even if it's reduced.
Why this happens: Property managers need to be sure that rent (even subsidized) will be paid. If someone’s income is too low—even if they qualify by poverty standards—they may be denied for being “too poor.”
2. Extremely Long Waitlists
Demand for low-income housing vastly exceeds supply, especially in major cities.
Result: Many people wait years or even decades for housing assistance (like Section 8 vouchers or public housing).
Some waitlists are closed entirely because they’re overwhelmed.
3. Strict Eligibility Criteria
Eligibility is often based on more than just income:
Credit history: Poor or no credit can disqualify applicants.
Criminal background: Certain charges—even old or minor ones
Posted by: Sun at July 15, 2025 04:32 PM (d4YSP)
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I did a quick search for "Property Tax" in this page, including comments, and found nothing.
The thing is what kind of municipal government willingly and permanently destroys the cash cow of property taxes on the hundreds of luxury homes that used to be there?
Low cost housing, especially if the city ends up building and running it, isn't going to generate that kind of cash.
And the kind of local businesses that spring up to service luxury homes and wealthy people generate more tax income than the handful of McDonalds and Weed stores.
The thing is what kind of municipal government willingly and permanently destroys the cash cow of property taxes on the hundreds of luxury homes that used to be there?
Low cost housing, especially if the city ends up building and running it, isn't going to generate that kind of cash.
And the kind of local businesses that spring up to service luxury homes and wealthy people generate more tax income than the handful of McDonalds and Weed stores.
Posted by: John the River at July 15, 2025 04:35 PM (Li1E5)
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As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.
Yeah, people are complaining about black fatigue, but its not black people they are tired of. Its low class losers. White, black, hispanic, laotian, doesn't matter its a class issue. Its scum bags who loot stores and twerk on the ambulance and get into 3" fake nail fights and yank the weave off each other. That's not a race thing.
Yeah, people are complaining about black fatigue, but its not black people they are tired of. Its low class losers. White, black, hispanic, laotian, doesn't matter its a class issue. Its scum bags who loot stores and twerk on the ambulance and get into 3" fake nail fights and yank the weave off each other. That's not a race thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (dfIr7)
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I would also like to remind everybody that 6 months ago, California passed an idiotic bill saying you WERE NOT ALLOWED to sell your property because of 'predatory companies'.
Now the state will try to force you to sell for less than those companies were offering.
Democrats are scum.
Now the state will try to force you to sell for less than those companies were offering.
Democrats are scum.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at July 15, 2025 04:58 PM (lCHt6)
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I'm sure a lot of people cannot hold out, but I guarantee you there are plenty of rich Hollywood celebs who CAN and WILL.
I'm quite sure the state of CA and city of LA do not have a leg to stand on when it comes to preventing people from rebuilding their own property destroyed due to the incompetence and negligence of the gov't.
I bet they could even certify a CLASS of litigants against the city and state....
I'm quite sure the state of CA and city of LA do not have a leg to stand on when it comes to preventing people from rebuilding their own property destroyed due to the incompetence and negligence of the gov't.
I bet they could even certify a CLASS of litigants against the city and state....
Posted by: deadrody at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (vgB0v)
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In my town, if your home burns down, the permit is automatic with no fees, as long as you stay in the same foot print of the original home. They even waived property taxes during the reconstruction.
By month six, the rubble was cleared, a new foundation dug and poured, first floor deck was up and some of the walls were going up.
We moved in 50 weeks after the fire.
No excuse for the BS in California.
By month six, the rubble was cleared, a new foundation dug and poured, first floor deck was up and some of the walls were going up.
We moved in 50 weeks after the fire.
No excuse for the BS in California.
Posted by: Astro is Asshoe at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (/V68c)
Inflation Ticks Upwards But Comes In Under Expectations
Under President Trump, core inflation continues to come in below expectations -- with June marking the fifth consecutive month of better-than-forecast results. From vehicles to groceries, key prices are holding steady or falling, confirming that inflation is right on track. Key Details: Headline inflation rose just 0.1% in June, with the annual rate at 2.7% -- both numbers showing price stability as the trend continues to improve. Core CPI, which excludes food and energy, increased 0.2% -- below the 0.3% economists predicted. Year-over-year, core inflation held steady at 2.9%, reinforcing the consistent progress made under President Trump. New vehicle prices declined 0.3% in June, and used car prices dropped 0.7%. Apparel prices rose for the first time in months, but men's and children's clothing costs fell. Shoe prices and household furnishings saw modest increases, showing strength in domestic demand. Diving Deeper: For the fifth month in a row, inflation under President Donald J. Trump came in cooler than economists expected -- a clear sign that the White House's pro-growth, pro-stability agenda is working. June's Consumer Price Index showed a modest 0.1% rise from the prior month, and an annual increase of 2.7%, slightly above projections but still a sharp departure from the runaway inflation seen under Joe Biden. The bigger story came from core inflation. Core CPI, which strips out volatile food and energy categories, rose just 0.2% in June -- under the 0.3% forecast -- and remained at 2.9% year-over-year. Since President Trump returned to office, core inflation has stayed consistently below expectations, helping drive real wage growth and boost consumer confidence.
Rapid Response 47So the media did not cover inflation under Biden for four years, covered it intensely for the first few months of Trump's Restoration with snarky "I thought Trump said he'd lower prices on day one" hit pieces, then stopped covering inflation when Trump's policies reduced inflation to just above the 2% target rate, and now are back to covering it again, for at least this month, because it ticked up 0.1%. Got it. Regime hack Jerome Powell cut interest rates just before the election to boost Biden, and refused to raise interest rates throughout most of Biden's reign of inflation. He never cautioned Biden on his massive overspending or linked it to inflation. But now that a president he doesn't like is in the White House, he's claiming he can't ever cut interest rates, because Trump's tariffs may, one day, possibly, cause price increases in the future. People are now calling for "regime change" at the Fed.
@RapidResponse47 .@PressSec: "Every month since @POTUS
took office, core inflation--the best measure of inflation--has beat or matched expectations. The data proves that @POTUS
is stabilizing inflation and the Panicans continue to be wrong about tariffs raising prices."
A Republican Congressman also called for Powell's resignation.
Former Fed Gov. Kevin Warsh, considered to be a top contender to succeed Fed Chair Jerome Powell, said the central bank needs "regime change." "I think what we need is regime change at the Fed," Warsh told Maria Bartiromo in an interview on Fox's Sunday Morning Futures that aired on Sunday. "And that's not just about the chairman, it's about a whole range of people, it's about changing their mindset and their models, and frankly it's about breaking some heads, because the way they've been doing business is not working." President Trump has been openly critical of Powell and has called on the central bank to cut interest rates, with no success. Fed officials have taken a cautious approach to rates in the face of mild inflation data.
... Asked about whether Trump has the authority to fire Powell, Kevin Hassett, a top Trump economic advisor, told ABC's This Week that right now it's an issue "that's being looked into. But certainly, if there's cause, he does."
Arizona Republican Rep. Abe Hamadeh on Monday called for the resignation of Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, citing a pattern of "gross mismanagement" and policy failures. In a public letter shared on X, Hamadeh accused Powell of dragging down the economy by refusing to cut interest rates. Key Details: In a letter posted to X, Rep. Hamadeh criticized Powell for what he described as "gross mismanagement" of the Federal Reserve's headquarters renovation project and a failure to act in the country's economic interest.Trump is searching for a replacement for Powell when his term is up... or maybe before his term is up.
Hamadeh also took aim at Powell's public comments on tariffs and accused him of showing "a lack of candor" while ignoring the need for timely interest rate cuts.
The criticism follows public comments from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Chairman William Pulte, who said he was "encouraged" by reports of Powell's potential resignation, calling it "the right decision for America."
The Trump administration has taken its clearest step yet toward reshaping the Federal Reserve, launching a formal search for who will take over from Jerome Powell when his term ends -- or possibly before. Speaking to Bloomberg TV, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said, "There are a lot of great candidates and we'll see how rapidly it progresses. It's President Trump's decision and it will move at his speed." Bessent, who is among the top contenders alongside former Fed governor Kevin Warsh and NEC Director Kevin Hassett, dismissed speculation that the administration would install a "shadow" Fed chair in advance of Powell's departure. "It would be very confusing for the market," he noted, suggesting the White House is focused on an orderly, albeit early, transition.
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Sponge?
Posted by: Jb at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (yBGaa)
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Yes!!!!!
Posted by: Jb at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (yBGaa)
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Have Trump talk on live TV about restoring the gold backing to the dollar. That will get Powell's blood pressure up!
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (Nmmyc)
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Remind me again why Congress delegated one of their handful of enumerated powers (monetary policy) to an unelected group of Wall Street Bankers who clearly have interests that are not exactly aligned with the interests of the American people?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Whose expectations? The Experts?
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (vFG9F)
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"Expectations" adjusted based on which party is in power, of course
Posted by: brak at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (jGJov)
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We should deports all the Panicans amirite?
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (fV+MH)
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I'm a big Bessent fan, but I would hate to lose him at Treasury. Frankly, I'm too ignorant about finance issues to know whether he'd be more impactful at Treasury or as head of the Fed.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (bNf8H)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (g47mK)
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Remind me again why Congress delegated one of their handful of enumerated powers (monetary policy) to an unelected group of Wall Street Bankers who clearly have interests that are not exactly aligned with the interests of the American people?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
Because it was easier than doing all that work themselves?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
Because it was easier than doing all that work themselves?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (fCgdX)
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For the fifth month in a row, inflation under President Donald J. Trump came in cooler than economists expected -- a clear sign that the White House's pro-growth, pro-stability agenda is working
And also more proof that economists are biased / have no idea what they are talking about.
And also more proof that economists are biased / have no idea what they are talking about.
Posted by: Chuck C at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (D0HYP)
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But now that a president he doesn't like is in the White House, he's claiming he can't ever cut interest rates, because Trump's tariffs may, one day, possibly, cause price increases in the future.
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But...tariffs are deflationary.
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But...tariffs are deflationary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)
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What of Egg Prices!?
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (1F/ig)
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Powell needs the Costanza treatment.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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Remind me again why Congress delegated one of their handful of enumerated powers (monetary policy) to an unelected group of Wall Street Bankers who clearly have interests that are not exactly aligned with the interests of the American people?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
Because it was easier than doing all that work themselves?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (fCgdX)
I'd rather not have AOC anywhere near monetary policy.
She once chipped her tooth on a vibrator.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
Because it was easier than doing all that work themselves?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (fCgdX)
I'd rather not have AOC anywhere near monetary policy.
She once chipped her tooth on a vibrator.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (PzXaK)
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I would note that one of Trump's wins, in the 15-0 run of wins at the Supreme Court since April, is the one that gave him the authority to fire "independent" department heads.
And they held back on the question of whether the Fed was "quasi" enough to actually qualify as independent or an Executive agency.
Rather, more of a "it might be, we're not sure, but the question isn't before us and we haven't examined it."
Hint: That they didn't say it 100% was, when "everybody knows the Fed is independent" tells you exactly what they really mean.
And they held back on the question of whether the Fed was "quasi" enough to actually qualify as independent or an Executive agency.
Rather, more of a "it might be, we're not sure, but the question isn't before us and we haven't examined it."
Hint: That they didn't say it 100% was, when "everybody knows the Fed is independent" tells you exactly what they really mean.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (Jw2IK)
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Bessent, who is among the top contenders alongside former Fed governor Kevin Warsh and NEC Director Kevin Hassett, dismissed speculation that the administration would install a "shadow" Fed chair in advance of Powell's departure. "It would be very confusing for the market," he noted, suggesting the White House is focused on an orderly, albeit early, transition.
I'm not sure how it would be confusing for the market to have a guy with no authority saying, "Look, we all know that I'm going to be nominated to replace Powell. If I were in charge now, this is what I'd do."
What I think it WOULD do is cause people to delay taking on business debt because Powell is a partisan jackass.
I'm not sure how it would be confusing for the market to have a guy with no authority saying, "Look, we all know that I'm going to be nominated to replace Powell. If I were in charge now, this is what I'd do."
What I think it WOULD do is cause people to delay taking on business debt because Powell is a partisan jackass.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (ExV1e)
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"There are a lot of great candidates and we'll see how rapidly it progresses. It's President Trump's decision and it will move at his speed."
I vote for Thomas Sowell, in a Christopher Pike chair if necessary.
I vote for Thomas Sowell, in a Christopher Pike chair if necessary.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:58 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:58 PM (77rzZ)
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Because it was easier than doing all that work themselves?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (fCgdX)
I'd rather not have AOC anywhere near monetary policy.
She once chipped her tooth on a vibrator.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (PzXaK)
Oh, okay.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (fCgdX)
I'd rather not have AOC anywhere near monetary policy.
She once chipped her tooth on a vibrator.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (PzXaK)
Oh, okay.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:58 PM (uCjyK)
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Fun fact: Trump 1.0 appointed Powell. Terrible choice. Powell almost instantly stabbed him in the back, and continues to stab him in the back. Get rid of this loathsome toady.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:58 PM (iFTx/)
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How do you get an inflation tick to back out?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 01:58 PM (wVcYX)
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21 Fun fact: Trump 1.0 appointed Powell. Terrible choice. Powell almost instantly stabbed him in the back, and continues to stab him in the back. Get rid of this loathsome toady.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:58 PM (iFTx/)
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Trump appointed him to the fed, not chair.
Biden appointed him chair.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:58 PM (iFTx/)
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Trump appointed him to the fed, not chair.
Biden appointed him chair.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
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Remind me again why Congress delegated one of their handful of enumerated powers (monetary policy) to an unelected group of Wall Street Bankers who clearly have interests that are not exactly aligned with the interests of the American people?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
Because we don't want to do our actual job. If we were to do our actual job, people might get mad at us, we might lose an election, and then how could we rob the nation blind? -- Congress
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
Because we don't want to do our actual job. If we were to do our actual job, people might get mad at us, we might lose an election, and then how could we rob the nation blind? -- Congress
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (ExV1e)
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Remind me again why Congress delegated one of their handful of enumerated powers (monetary policy) to an unelected group of Wall Street Bankers who clearly have interests that are not exactly aligned with the interests of the American people?
Giving away their powers so that they can't be pinned down to a vote on a hot-button issue is Congress' entire MO since at least the end of WW2.
Giving away their powers so that they can't be pinned down to a vote on a hot-button issue is Congress' entire MO since at least the end of WW2.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (2ocoG)
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"The bigger story came from core inflation. Core CPI, which strips out volatile food and energy categories, rose just 0.2% in June -- under the 0.3% forecast -- and remained at 2.9% year-over-year. Since President Trump returned to office, core inflation has stayed consistently below expectations, helping drive real wage growth and boost consumer confidence."
LOLOL. Our trading partners read that and then checked the calendar. August 1st is a freight train rolling into the yard at full speed. That should wipe the smuggery off the faces of the EUniks.
LOLOL. Our trading partners read that and then checked the calendar. August 1st is a freight train rolling into the yard at full speed. That should wipe the smuggery off the faces of the EUniks.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (rj6Yv)
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Yahoo Finance has 3 articles on inflation on their home page. From the headlines alone you’d think inflation was running at pre-Milei Argentina levels.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (ImXfC)
28
love the warsh!
Posted by: cherries in season at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (G7LMi)
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Our "apolitical" Fed has been acting blatantly political.
That was the ONLY reason for a so-called "independent" body.
If we don't have that, why do we keep the Fed?
That was the ONLY reason for a so-called "independent" body.
If we don't have that, why do we keep the Fed?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (N1DT3)
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Because we don't want to do our actual job. If we were to do our actual job, people might get mad at us, we might lose an election, and then how could we rob the nation blind? -- Congress
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (ExV1e)
Good point.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (ExV1e)
Good point.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (uCjyK)
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26
LOLOL. Our trading partners read that and then checked the calendar. August 1st is a freight train rolling into the yard at full speed. That should wipe the smuggery off the faces of the EUniks.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (rj6Yv)
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Theory:
EU officials actually believe that the depressed, fractured EU economy is a real and equal counterpart to the US economy and have no idea what's coming.
Discuss.
LOLOL. Our trading partners read that and then checked the calendar. August 1st is a freight train rolling into the yard at full speed. That should wipe the smuggery off the faces of the EUniks.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (rj6Yv)
========
Theory:
EU officials actually believe that the depressed, fractured EU economy is a real and equal counterpart to the US economy and have no idea what's coming.
Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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26 LOLOL. Our trading partners read that and then checked the calendar. August 1st is a freight train rolling into the yard at full speed. That should wipe the smuggery off the faces of the EUniks.
smuggery > buggery
smuggery > buggery
Posted by: anachronda at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (v3pYe)
33
Were they Great Expectations?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (wVcYX)
34
>>Trump 1.0 appointed Powell. Terrible choice. Powell almost instantly stabbed him in the back, and continues to stab him in the back. Get rid of this loathsome toady.
Meh - Trump is agitating for Lower Rates. Which I am steadfastly opposed to.
The last thing we need is a return to ridiculously low rates.
What we need is austerity.
Meh - Trump is agitating for Lower Rates. Which I am steadfastly opposed to.
The last thing we need is a return to ridiculously low rates.
What we need is austerity.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (1F/ig)
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29 Our "apolitical" Fed has been acting blatantly political.
That was the ONLY reason for a so-called "independent" body.
If we don't have that, why do we keep the Fed?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (N1DT3)
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Expertise! Gotta keep the ruffians from having a say in how the federal government is run by appointing people who aren't qualified, my dear boy.
That was the ONLY reason for a so-called "independent" body.
If we don't have that, why do we keep the Fed?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (N1DT3)
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Expertise! Gotta keep the ruffians from having a say in how the federal government is run by appointing people who aren't qualified, my dear boy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump needs to pick Kevin Warsh to replace Powell.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)
37
>>>Does he know about the cup sizes?
You have your A, your B, your C, and your D. D is the biggest.
You have your A, your B, your C, and your D. D is the biggest.
Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (fV+MH)
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And also more proof that economists are biased / have no idea what they are talking about.
Posted by: Chuck C at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (D0HYP)
The medical equivalent of an economist:
https://youtu.be/edIi6hYpUoQ
Posted by: Chuck C at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (D0HYP)
The medical equivalent of an economist:
https://youtu.be/edIi6hYpUoQ
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (jc0TO)
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"he's claiming he can't ever cut interest rates"
If inflation is now under control, that says to me: leave interest rates alone.
If inflation is now under control, that says to me: leave interest rates alone.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (TwZXH)
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29 Our "apolitical" Fed has been acting blatantly political.
That was the ONLY reason for a so-called "independent" body.
If we don't have that, why do we keep the Fed?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (N1DT3)
They were never apolotical, and their often competing and sometimes nonsensical goals of full employment and a 2% inflation rate as their guiding beacons have rarely been achieved.
In other words, it's not like they have a great track record of "smoothing out the business cycle" so we didn't have booms and busts anymore, which was how this was first sold to the American people.
That was the ONLY reason for a so-called "independent" body.
If we don't have that, why do we keep the Fed?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 02:00 PM (N1DT3)
They were never apolotical, and their often competing and sometimes nonsensical goals of full employment and a 2% inflation rate as their guiding beacons have rarely been achieved.
In other words, it's not like they have a great track record of "smoothing out the business cycle" so we didn't have booms and busts anymore, which was how this was first sold to the American people.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (uCjyK)
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The market will skyrocket as soon as Powell's departure is announced.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (JvZF+)
44
Remind me again why Congress delegated one of their handful of enumerated powers (monetary policy) to an unelected group of Wall Street Bankers who clearly have interests that are not exactly aligned with the interests of the American people?
"Dude, every time we have to do anything substantive or important it upsets some people and might harm fundraising and reelection chances! And besides all that work cuts in my hookers and blow time"
--Congressman Moneybags
"Dude, every time we have to do anything substantive or important it upsets some people and might harm fundraising and reelection chances! And besides all that work cuts in my hookers and blow time"
--Congressman Moneybags
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (dfIr7)
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23 Trump appointed him to the fed, not chair.
Biden appointed him chair.
will no one think of the sofa?
Biden appointed him chair.
will no one think of the sofa?
Posted by: gonah joldberg at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (v3pYe)
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41 "he's claiming he can't ever cut interest rates"
If inflation is now under control, that says to me: leave interest rates alone.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (TwZXH)
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Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
If inflation is now under control, that says to me: leave interest rates alone.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (TwZXH)
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Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Tell me more about those sexy chairs......
Posted by: The Veep at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (NdCPY)
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36 Trump needs to pick Kevin Warsh to replace Powell.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)
At first glance, I thought you wrote Kanye West, and I thought "well, that would certainly be a choice."
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)
At first glance, I thought you wrote Kanye West, and I thought "well, that would certainly be a choice."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (uCjyK)
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If inflation is now under control, that says to me: leave interest rates alone.
Might be a good time to lower them.
Might be a good time to lower them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (77rzZ)
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Imagine where we would be right now if Trump didn't turn his head. To look at a chart about illegals. Trump was saved by their open border.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (Qr870)
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Also, there is no room in the Constitution for "independent" or "quasi-Executive" agencies.
Either they are fully offices of the Legislative, offices of the Courts or they are Executive agencies.
Any of this crap about "panel of experts, working independently, for the people, free of political influence" is hopped-up horseshit that is flat-out unconstitutional:
Either it answers to the People, through one of the three branches directly or it is illegal.
The Constitution has no provisions for "insulating" anyone or any agency from answering to the political influence of the people.
Either they are fully offices of the Legislative, offices of the Courts or they are Executive agencies.
Any of this crap about "panel of experts, working independently, for the people, free of political influence" is hopped-up horseshit that is flat-out unconstitutional:
Either it answers to the People, through one of the three branches directly or it is illegal.
The Constitution has no provisions for "insulating" anyone or any agency from answering to the political influence of the people.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (Jw2IK)
53
How does ebay know when I pick up my phone to hit me with spam?
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (fV+MH)
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>>Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (1F/ig)
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54 >>Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (1F/ig)
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Sure.
But that doesn't mean at least do this.
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (1F/ig)
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Sure.
But that doesn't mean at least do this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:05 PM (GBKbO)
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August 1st is a freight train rolling into the yard at full speed. That should wipe the smuggery off the faces of the EUniks.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (rj6Yv)
You've got a dead engineer and a runaway train that's going to hit Chicago in 15 minutes. Now what are you going to do about it? ... In 10 minutes you're going to have 200 tons of locomotive smashing into Central Station on its way to Marshall Field's!
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (rj6Yv)
You've got a dead engineer and a runaway train that's going to hit Chicago in 15 minutes. Now what are you going to do about it? ... In 10 minutes you're going to have 200 tons of locomotive smashing into Central Station on its way to Marshall Field's!
Posted by: Silver Streak at July 15, 2025 02:05 PM (wVcYX)
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56 You've got a dead engineer and a runaway train that's going to hit Chicago in 15 minutes. Now what are you going to do about it? ... In 10 minutes you're going to have 200 tons of locomotive smashing into Central Station on its way to Marshall Field's!
Posted by: Silver Streak at July 15, 2025 02:05 PM (wVcYX)
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It's like a missile the size of the Chrysler Building!
Posted by: Silver Streak at July 15, 2025 02:05 PM (wVcYX)
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It's like a missile the size of the Chrysler Building!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Curtis Jones at July 15, 2025 02:06 PM (ufFY8)
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Obama appointed him to the Fed. He became chairman in 2/18 under Trump. Given second term as chairman by Biden in 2022.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 02:06 PM (volu5)
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August 1st is a freight train rolling into the yard at full speed. That should wipe the smuggery off the faces of the EUniks.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM
A train of artillery shells and dynamite.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM
A train of artillery shells and dynamite.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:07 PM (jc0TO)
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It's like a missile the size of the Chrysler Building!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
How many giraffes is that?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
How many giraffes is that?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:07 PM (L/fGl)
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"Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO) "
Boom. This!
the fed is just a vast welfare system for bankers anyway
Audit. Prosecute. Abolish.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO) "
Boom. This!
the fed is just a vast welfare system for bankers anyway
Audit. Prosecute. Abolish.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 02:07 PM (dKEEs)
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61 It's like a missile the size of the Chrysler Building!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
How many giraffes is that?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)
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Posit:
Giraffes have short necks. They just have long shoulders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
How many giraffes is that?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)
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Posit:
Giraffes have short necks. They just have long shoulders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:08 PM (GBKbO)
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@60 and the dynamite is sweating
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 02:08 PM (volu5)
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23 Trump appointed him to the fed, not chair.
Biden appointed him chair.
will no one think of the sofa?
Posted by: gonah joldberg at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (v3pYe)
Make Chesterfields Great Again!
Biden appointed him chair.
will no one think of the sofa?
Posted by: gonah joldberg at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (v3pYe)
Make Chesterfields Great Again!
Posted by: Sofa King at July 15, 2025 02:08 PM (wVcYX)
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Is the train accelerating?
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 02:08 PM (fV+MH)
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"he's claiming he can't ever cut interest rates"
If inflation is now under control, that says to me: leave interest rates alone.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (TwZXH)
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Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Yea, and the link between rates and the recent inflation is over-rated and misunderstood. The runaway inflation under Biden wasn't the result of low rates. It was the result of insanely inflationary policies like ... I dunno ... just printing trillions of dollars and dumping them into the economy.
Once that stopped, inflation naturally lowered. Powell's manipulation of rates had little effect. Indeed, when he dropped rates suddenly to try to help Kamala, inflation did not rise. It went down.
I continue to believe that Powell's manipulation did more harm than good.
If inflation is now under control, that says to me: leave interest rates alone.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (TwZXH)
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Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
______
Yea, and the link between rates and the recent inflation is over-rated and misunderstood. The runaway inflation under Biden wasn't the result of low rates. It was the result of insanely inflationary policies like ... I dunno ... just printing trillions of dollars and dumping them into the economy.
Once that stopped, inflation naturally lowered. Powell's manipulation of rates had little effect. Indeed, when he dropped rates suddenly to try to help Kamala, inflation did not rise. It went down.
I continue to believe that Powell's manipulation did more harm than good.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
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>>Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Posted by: garrett
Yo!
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Posted by: garrett
Yo!
Posted by: The Healing Power of And at July 15, 2025 02:08 PM (IChGZ)
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At first glance, I thought you wrote Kanye West, and I thought "well, that would certainly be a choice."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (uCjyK)
******
Lol. Oh, hell No.
I need to be banned if I ever post that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (uCjyK)
******
Lol. Oh, hell No.
I need to be banned if I ever post that.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 02:08 PM (NpAcC)
71
Whatever happened to that Iran place?
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 02:09 PM (fV+MH)
72
Trump announced support for a TX plan to redraw congressional districts, possibly providing the GOP with up to five more seats.
Hakeem Jeffries and the Dim leadership are advising Dims in the TX legislature to skip the quorum call when the legislation comes up.
AG Ken Paxton says if they do that, he'll find them and have them arrested.
https://tinyurl.com/mrxvrrwv
Hakeem Jeffries and the Dim leadership are advising Dims in the TX legislature to skip the quorum call when the legislation comes up.
AG Ken Paxton says if they do that, he'll find them and have them arrested.
https://tinyurl.com/mrxvrrwv
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 15, 2025 02:09 PM (paSBy)
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A Fed Chairman with Don King hair would be amusing.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:09 PM (jc0TO)
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56 August 1st is a freight train rolling into the yard at full speed. That should wipe the smuggery off the faces of the EUniks.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (rj6Yv)
You've got a dead engineer and a runaway train that's going to hit Chicago in 15 minutes. Now what are you going to do about it? ... In 10 minutes you're going to have 200 tons of locomotive smashing into Central Station on its way to Marshall Field's!
Posted by: Silver Streak at July 15, 2025 02:05 PM (wVcYX)
I always saw these and thought - let the train slam into something out of town - the train is a goner, and thus no bigger loss...so do the Math/Physics calculations, find what stops or flips the train off the tracks, put it there, and be done with it. Probably another train devoid of people, but not stuff, gets it done...
But it's never done that way in Hollywood.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:59 PM (rj6Yv)
You've got a dead engineer and a runaway train that's going to hit Chicago in 15 minutes. Now what are you going to do about it? ... In 10 minutes you're going to have 200 tons of locomotive smashing into Central Station on its way to Marshall Field's!
Posted by: Silver Streak at July 15, 2025 02:05 PM (wVcYX)
I always saw these and thought - let the train slam into something out of town - the train is a goner, and thus no bigger loss...so do the Math/Physics calculations, find what stops or flips the train off the tracks, put it there, and be done with it. Probably another train devoid of people, but not stuff, gets it done...
But it's never done that way in Hollywood.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 02:09 PM (tOcjL)
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73 A Fed Chairman with Don King hair would be amusing.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:09 PM (jc0TO)
Even better... What's Hulk Hogan up to these days? Last I saw him he was ripping his shirt at a Trump rally.
I think Hulk would be a great Fed Chair.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:09 PM (jc0TO)
Even better... What's Hulk Hogan up to these days? Last I saw him he was ripping his shirt at a Trump rally.
I think Hulk would be a great Fed Chair.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (uCjyK)
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what about all the tank cars of gasoline & propane & liquid O2?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (dKEEs)
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I can stop a train with one prybar.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (jc0TO)
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Trump just joked that he’s going to give IQ tests to AOC and Jasmine Crockett “to see who comes out best”
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They're flatlining!
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They're flatlining!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (L/fGl)
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Doomsdayers are always going to predict anything President Trump does will cause a collapse
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (+qU29)
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You've got a dead engineer and a runaway train that's going to hit Chicago in 15 minutes. Now what are you going to do about it? ... In 10 minutes you're going to have 200 tons of locomotive smashing into Central Station on its way to Marshall Field's!
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First he was high on cocaine, now Casey Jones is dead?!
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First he was high on cocaine, now Casey Jones is dead?!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:11 PM (Jw2IK)
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The last thing we need is a return to ridiculously low rates.
We may not need to remain at "ridiculously low rates" but we need to visit long enough to refinance all the debt that got moved into short term bonds and are costing us extra like crazy.
We may not need to remain at "ridiculously low rates" but we need to visit long enough to refinance all the debt that got moved into short term bonds and are costing us extra like crazy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:11 PM (ExV1e)
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Or "The Rent is Too Damn High" guy. Or even Vermin Supreme.
There are plenty of qualified people to be put in charge over at the Fed.
There are plenty of qualified people to be put in charge over at the Fed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:11 PM (uCjyK)
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The train metaphor led me to thinking of Tony Scott's masterpiece Unstoppable which led me to thinking of one of SNL's funniest things from the 2010s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SsYqFDmLR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SsYqFDmLR8
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)
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>>I continue to believe that Powell's manipulation did more harm than good.
Rate Cuts always do more harm than good.
Why give the Market money at a discount when yields are high?
I don't want to return to a landscape where CDs only yield 2%. Fuck that.
Rate Cuts always do more harm than good.
Why give the Market money at a discount when yields are high?
I don't want to return to a landscape where CDs only yield 2%. Fuck that.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:12 PM (1F/ig)
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A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Best I can do is cut projected annual spending increases by .1%
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Best I can do is cut projected annual spending increases by .1%
Posted by: Congress at July 15, 2025 02:12 PM (jGJov)
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Canada, believe it or not, is even more screwed than the EU. The "Elbows Up" Canadian PM and his merry band of idiots think shifting their exports focus to the EU will solve their economic woes (inflicted by the same party that created the country's trade crisis). It's difficult to imagine a more inept, corrupt syndicate of bandits running a country than the US Democrats, but Great Scot, I think the Canuckian Liberals beat 'em by a five-finger discount.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:13 PM (rj6Yv)
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A tip for gracious living.
Too hot this summer? Study says smearing yogurt on windows will cool the house down
Too hot this summer? Study says smearing yogurt on windows will cool the house down
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:13 PM (L/fGl)
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A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (1F/ig)
May I assume that you've announced your candidacy on the "cut all the spending and raise taxes" ticket?
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:04 PM (1F/ig)
May I assume that you've announced your candidacy on the "cut all the spending and raise taxes" ticket?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:13 PM (ExV1e)
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>>> The last thing we need is a return to ridiculously low rates.
Speak for yourself. I can only make up the difference by doing this OnlyFans account for so long
Speak for yourself. I can only make up the difference by doing this OnlyFans account for so long
Posted by: Real Estate Agents at July 15, 2025 02:13 PM (jGJov)
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I always saw these and thought - let the train slam into something out of town - the train is a goner, and thus no bigger loss...so do the Math/Physics calculations, find what stops or flips the train off the tracks, put it there, and be done with it. Probably another train devoid of people, but not stuff, gets it done...
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LOL, there's some clips on the Toks of a guy trying to stop the train in GTA.
Putting dump trucks, tanker trucks, busses, planes etc. on the tracks.
So far, just some glitches as it can't render the physics of a bunch of dump trucks being hit inside the tunnel.
It generally resolves it by pushing them through the tunnel in front of the train.
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LOL, there's some clips on the Toks of a guy trying to stop the train in GTA.
Putting dump trucks, tanker trucks, busses, planes etc. on the tracks.
So far, just some glitches as it can't render the physics of a bunch of dump trucks being hit inside the tunnel.
It generally resolves it by pushing them through the tunnel in front of the train.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (Jw2IK)
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Saw a hilarious news story out of England: Experts say the sea levels around the UK may rise over the coming decade!
I mean... just around the British Isles? How does that work?
I mean... just around the British Isles? How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (dfIr7)
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>>Posted by: Real Estate Agents at July 15, 2025 02:13 PM (jGJov)
You ate when Mortgages were above 10%.
You ate when Mortgages were above 10%.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (1F/ig)
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I don't want to return to a landscape where CDs only yield 2%. Fuck that.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:12 PM
Me either.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:12 PM
Me either.
Posted by: a retired businessman living on a pension at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (jc0TO)
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No need to touch rates. Bondi's are already cheap enough.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (Qr870)
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Powell went along with the 'inflation is transitory' nonsense just like the rest of the left.
He showed his hand then and he's showing it even more now.
The inflation that plagued the world for the past five years is easing out, mainly because the spending glut has been stopped.
It won't hurt the economy for Powell to lower interest rates now, and if inflation ticks up, raise the rates.
We're not coming off of a 70s stagflation event.
This was a massive one time inflation event caused by COVID spending and supply chains being wrecked during the pandemic.
Current Rates:
Australia - 3.85%
Canada - 2.75%
UK - 4.25%
Japan - 0.5%
South Korea - 2.5%
China - 3%
Europe - 2.15%
U.S. - 4.5%
Powell is being political in a supposed non-political role, so fire him if he wants it that way.
He showed his hand then and he's showing it even more now.
The inflation that plagued the world for the past five years is easing out, mainly because the spending glut has been stopped.
It won't hurt the economy for Powell to lower interest rates now, and if inflation ticks up, raise the rates.
We're not coming off of a 70s stagflation event.
This was a massive one time inflation event caused by COVID spending and supply chains being wrecked during the pandemic.
Current Rates:
Australia - 3.85%
Canada - 2.75%
UK - 4.25%
Japan - 0.5%
South Korea - 2.5%
China - 3%
Europe - 2.15%
U.S. - 4.5%
Powell is being political in a supposed non-political role, so fire him if he wants it that way.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (6ydKt)
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It's like a missile the size of the Chrysler Building!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)
https://youtu.be/K__vKoNtHss
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)
https://youtu.be/K__vKoNtHss
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:15 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Smoker at July 15, 2025 02:15 PM (XeU6L)
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54 >>Cutting 2-3 percent from federal interest rates will save hundreds of billions of dollars for the federal government.
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Posted by: garrett
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Any cut in the deficit is good. Most of the spending cuts necessary to move the needle much are in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Health Care spending including medicare and medicaid is 1.8 Trillion, Social Security is 1.6 trillion. Interest is about 1 trillion so 4.4 trillion out of 6.9 trillion. Defense is about 1 trillion also (a lot of it personnel costs) so that makes it 5.4 trillion of spending. All the rest of the spending (somewhere around 600-700 billion for welfare--food stamps, housing, etc plus 300 billion for the VA) is about 1.5 trillion.
Try playing around with a(us dot abalancingact dot com) if you want to play OMB budget chief.
A Fraction of what could be saved by cutting SPENDING.
Posted by: garrett
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Any cut in the deficit is good. Most of the spending cuts necessary to move the needle much are in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Health Care spending including medicare and medicaid is 1.8 Trillion, Social Security is 1.6 trillion. Interest is about 1 trillion so 4.4 trillion out of 6.9 trillion. Defense is about 1 trillion also (a lot of it personnel costs) so that makes it 5.4 trillion of spending. All the rest of the spending (somewhere around 600-700 billion for welfare--food stamps, housing, etc plus 300 billion for the VA) is about 1.5 trillion.
Try playing around with a(us dot abalancingact dot com) if you want to play OMB budget chief.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:15 PM (ctrM5)
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You can't spell prosperity without austerity!
Posted by: a retired businessman living on a pension at July 15, 2025 02:15 PM (jc0TO)
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Saw a hilarious news story out of England: Experts say the sea levels around the UK may rise over the coming decade!
The UK sucks. Math checks out.
The UK sucks. Math checks out.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 02:16 PM (7PJXf)
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91 Saw a hilarious news story out of England: Experts say the sea levels around the UK may rise over the coming decade!
I mean... just around the British Isles? How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (dfIr7)
just imagine how hard it will be to sail through the seawall of water around Britain!
I mean... just around the British Isles? How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (dfIr7)
just imagine how hard it will be to sail through the seawall of water around Britain!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 02:16 PM (uWKK8)
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I continue to believe that Powell's manipulation did more harm than good.
Rate Cuts always do more harm than good.
Why give the Market money at a discount when yields are high?
I don't want to return to a landscape where CDs only yield 2%. Fuck that.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:12 PM (1F/ig)
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Really? So why 10% CDs? Why not increase the rates then? If high rates are better, why not make them higher?
Rate Cuts always do more harm than good.
Why give the Market money at a discount when yields are high?
I don't want to return to a landscape where CDs only yield 2%. Fuck that.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:12 PM (1F/ig)
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Really? So why 10% CDs? Why not increase the rates then? If high rates are better, why not make them higher?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:17 PM (iFTx/)
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I think Whiz and Ice would make excellent additions to the Federal Reserve. They understand about gub-mint finances.
https://youtu.be/P1XCf9gEu7E
https://youtu.be/P1XCf9gEu7E
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 02:17 PM (wVcYX)
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>>>You ate when Mortgages were above 10%.
There's at least 2 generations of us out there that never knew that time
There's at least 2 generations of us out there that never knew that time
Posted by: Real Estate Agents at July 15, 2025 02:17 PM (jGJov)
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just imagine how hard it will be to sail through the seawall of water around Britain!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 02:16 PM
One word: Salmon Ladders
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 02:16 PM
One word: Salmon Ladders
Posted by: Scam Likely at July 15, 2025 02:17 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:17 PM (77rzZ)
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Hakeem Jeffries and the Dim leadership are advising Dims in the TX legislature to skip the quorum call when the legislation comes up.
Not like it'd be the first time they've pulled that stunt. If memory serves, they've lost seats every time they've done it.
Not like it'd be the first time they've pulled that stunt. If memory serves, they've lost seats every time they've done it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:17 PM (ExV1e)
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>>Really? So why 10% CDs? Why not increase the rates then? If high rates are better, why not make them higher?
I'd be happier to see 6.5% than 2.5%.
I'd be happier to see 6.5% than 2.5%.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:18 PM (1F/ig)
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The 18 packs of Kroger Eggs are $3.00 tomorrow.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 02:19 PM (cn0nj)
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The sea levels were supposed to be rising 30 years ago!
And yet...Venice which is ACTUALLY sinking, is still right where it was.
And yet...Venice which is ACTUALLY sinking, is still right where it was.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 02:19 PM (fV+MH)
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Canada, believe it or not, is even more screwed than the EU. The "Elbows Up" Canadian PM and his merry band of idiots think shifting their exports focus to the EU will solve their economic woes (inflicted by the same party that created the country's trade crisis). It's difficult to imagine a more inept, corrupt syndicate of bandits running a country than the US Democrats, but Great Scot, I think the Canuckian Liberals beat 'em by a five-finger discount.
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Reminder:
Canada has a 0.5% growth rate over the last 10 years.
Not 5%. One half of 1%.
Even Japan, Italy and Germany have better than 5%.
And Canada has the largest and richest market in history right next door.
And on top of that shit growth, they've imported over 5 million immigrants.
Hard working, cream-of-the-crop ... welfare leaches.
They are the Sick Man of the Americas.
And they'll drag us down with them if we don't cut them loose.
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Reminder:
Canada has a 0.5% growth rate over the last 10 years.
Not 5%. One half of 1%.
Even Japan, Italy and Germany have better than 5%.
And Canada has the largest and richest market in history right next door.
And on top of that shit growth, they've imported over 5 million immigrants.
Hard working, cream-of-the-crop ... welfare leaches.
They are the Sick Man of the Americas.
And they'll drag us down with them if we don't cut them loose.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:19 PM (Jw2IK)
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I don't want to return to a landscape where CDs only yield 2%. Fuck that.
Posted by: garrett
I was finally getting 5% on a CD. No more it seems.
I don't want to return to a landscape where CDs only yield 2%. Fuck that.
Posted by: garrett
I was finally getting 5% on a CD. No more it seems.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2025 02:19 PM (63Dwl)
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Congressman Faces Eviction Over $85k Back-Rent For Luxury DC Penthouse
Florida Republican Congressman Cory Mills is being sued over his alleged failure to pay $85,009 in rent for his Washington DC luxury penthouse apartment. Lashing out at a journalist after the news broke, Mills blamed the problem on the apartment's payment system -- but he's allegedly been late on 18 out of 24 payments since he moved in two years ago.
According to the legal complaint filed in DC Superior Court last week and first reported on X by the Daily Beast's Roger Sollenberger, Mills didn't pay $85,009 in rent covering the period between March and July, a sum that does not include late fees. His monthly rent for the posh quarters overlooking the Potomac River is $20,833, well above his base salary of $14,500 a month. However, Quiver Quantitative estimates his net worth is $24 million.
Florida Republican Congressman Cory Mills is being sued over his alleged failure to pay $85,009 in rent for his Washington DC luxury penthouse apartment. Lashing out at a journalist after the news broke, Mills blamed the problem on the apartment's payment system -- but he's allegedly been late on 18 out of 24 payments since he moved in two years ago.
According to the legal complaint filed in DC Superior Court last week and first reported on X by the Daily Beast's Roger Sollenberger, Mills didn't pay $85,009 in rent covering the period between March and July, a sum that does not include late fees. His monthly rent for the posh quarters overlooking the Potomac River is $20,833, well above his base salary of $14,500 a month. However, Quiver Quantitative estimates his net worth is $24 million.
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 02:20 PM (RHGPo)
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DOGE Announces Billions Of Dollars In Federal Contracts Terminated
DOGE says that so far, its activities have helped save an estimated $190 billion.
DOGE says that so far, its activities have helped save an estimated $190 billion.
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 02:20 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 02:20 PM (g47mK)
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I can stop a train with one prybar.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (jc0TO)
The Army studied the issue.
https://youtu.be/agznZBiK_Bs
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (jc0TO)
The Army studied the issue.
https://youtu.be/agznZBiK_Bs
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:20 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 02:20 PM (fV+MH)
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114 DOGE Announces Billions Of Dollars In Federal Contracts Terminated
DOGE says that so far, its activities have helped save an estimated $190 billion.
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 02:20 PM (RHGPo)
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But the left stopped screaming about it, so it's not happening.
DOGE says that so far, its activities have helped save an estimated $190 billion.
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 02:20 PM (RHGPo)
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But the left stopped screaming about it, so it's not happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
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Really? So why 10% CDs? Why not increase the rates then? If high rates are better, why not make them higher?
I'd be happier to see 6.5% than 2.5%.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:18 PM (1F/ig)
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We'll have to agree to disagree then
I'd be happier to see 6.5% than 2.5%.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:18 PM (1F/ig)
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We'll have to agree to disagree then
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:21 PM (iFTx/)
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119 We'll have to agree to disagree then
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:21 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:21 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
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Low interest rates are good with this much debt.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 02:22 PM (cn0nj)
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Fed kept rates at 0% for all of Obama years. Then in late 2016, after the election started raising and kept raising into 2017.
Apolitical my ass.
Apolitical my ass.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 02:22 PM (ImXfC)
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 02:22 PM (7PJXf)
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Isn’t .1% per month well under the benchmark 2% the fed shoots for?
I do wish Trump had put off some of the tariff stuff until inflation was basically zero. Or rolled it out more slowly. Would’ve boxed in Powell until he was replaced.
I do wish Trump had put off some of the tariff stuff until inflation was basically zero. Or rolled it out more slowly. Would’ve boxed in Powell until he was replaced.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:22 PM (mjCXl)
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75 73 A Fed Chairman with Don King hair would be amusing.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:09 PM (jc0TO)
Even better... What's Hulk Hogan up to these days? Last I saw him he was ripping his shirt at a Trump rally.
I think Hulk would be a great Fed Chair.
He's great with a folding chair
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:09 PM (jc0TO)
Even better... What's Hulk Hogan up to these days? Last I saw him he was ripping his shirt at a Trump rally.
I think Hulk would be a great Fed Chair.
He's great with a folding chair
Posted by: Shade tree expert at July 15, 2025 02:22 PM (+abK1)
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CNBC: Inflation picks up again in June, rising at 2.7% annual rate...Prior to June, inflation had been on a generally downward slope for the year, with headline CPI at a 3% annual rate back in January and progressing gradually slower in the subsequent months despite fears that Trump’s trade war would drive prices higher.
We need to hammer Trump and his MAGA mother fuckers mercilessly! Remember when conservatives pretended to care about prices? What are they saying this AM?
Stock futures are moving higher. Maybe Wall Street expected a higher number? Lower than expected inflation coupled with gains in 401K and IRA accounts is good news.
This wasn't "lower than expected", but what was generally expected. inflation overall was going to start to go up, not down and the estimates were spot on (except the Core CPI estimate was 0.1% off. I.e., 3.0% estimate vs 2.9% actual).
Based on the market's spiking, I get a feeling that a rate cut is expected. Which will accelerate inflation. Which means more profits for corporations and higher RE prices.
any "spiking" is due to Nvidia's insane $4 trillion of capitalization. Plus, the DOW is dropping.
We need to hammer Trump and his MAGA mother fuckers mercilessly! Remember when conservatives pretended to care about prices? What are they saying this AM?
Stock futures are moving higher. Maybe Wall Street expected a higher number? Lower than expected inflation coupled with gains in 401K and IRA accounts is good news.
This wasn't "lower than expected", but what was generally expected. inflation overall was going to start to go up, not down and the estimates were spot on (except the Core CPI estimate was 0.1% off. I.e., 3.0% estimate vs 2.9% actual).
Based on the market's spiking, I get a feeling that a rate cut is expected. Which will accelerate inflation. Which means more profits for corporations and higher RE prices.
any "spiking" is due to Nvidia's insane $4 trillion of capitalization. Plus, the DOW is dropping.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (JCZqz)
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124 Isn’t .1% per month well under the benchmark 2% the fed shoots for?
I do wish Trump had put off some of the tariff stuff until inflation was basically zero. Or rolled it out more slowly. Would’ve boxed in Powell until he was replaced.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:22 PM (mjCXl)
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Powell IS boxed in.
And the tariffs just accelerated it because, again, tariffs are deflationary.
I do wish Trump had put off some of the tariff stuff until inflation was basically zero. Or rolled it out more slowly. Would’ve boxed in Powell until he was replaced.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:22 PM (mjCXl)
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Powell IS boxed in.
And the tariffs just accelerated it because, again, tariffs are deflationary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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The invoices for a $430,000 legal bill run up by Gov. Tim Walz’s administration to prepare him for a congressional hearing last month ranged from $70 to review a letter inviting him to the hearing to $2,880 for “searches for news or statistics for crimes committed by transgender or nonbinary persons.”
According to the documents we reviewed, 23 members of the K&L Gates firm in Washington, ranging from partners and associates to a librarian, charged from $350 to $700 per hour.
In a wide range of services, they billed $1,035 to research “anti-transgender comments” by House Oversight Committee members to $2,880 for a lawyer to spend over six hours reviewing “case law” regarding “executive orders” and “separation of powers.”
According to the documents we reviewed, 23 members of the K&L Gates firm in Washington, ranging from partners and associates to a librarian, charged from $350 to $700 per hour.
In a wide range of services, they billed $1,035 to research “anti-transgender comments” by House Oversight Committee members to $2,880 for a lawyer to spend over six hours reviewing “case law” regarding “executive orders” and “separation of powers.”
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (RHGPo)
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>>We'll have to agree to disagree then
I'd rather you had the environment to Save for a sizeable Downpayment on a House than Guarantee you a marginal rate on a Mortgage.
Americans need to get back to Saving and building wealth outside of the Market.
But, nearly EVERY decision made on our Economy is one to drive money to the Market.
I'd rather you had the environment to Save for a sizeable Downpayment on a House than Guarantee you a marginal rate on a Mortgage.
Americans need to get back to Saving and building wealth outside of the Market.
But, nearly EVERY decision made on our Economy is one to drive money to the Market.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (1F/ig)
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And on top of that shit growth, they've imported over 5 million immigrants.
Hard working, cream-of-the-crop ... welfare leaches.
They are the Sick Man of the Americas.
And they'll drag us down with them if we don't cut them loose.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:19 PM (Jw2IK)
As you say -- Canada, a country with a then-population of about 35 million people, thought it was wise to import (according to google) over 8 million immigrants, many of whom are Punjabi Indian.
According to google, 23% of the people living in Canada as of 2021 were not born in Canada. That number is almost certainly higher by now.
I think it's safe to say we might be arguing about a northern border wall in the coming 10-20 years.
Hard working, cream-of-the-crop ... welfare leaches.
They are the Sick Man of the Americas.
And they'll drag us down with them if we don't cut them loose.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:19 PM (Jw2IK)
As you say -- Canada, a country with a then-population of about 35 million people, thought it was wise to import (according to google) over 8 million immigrants, many of whom are Punjabi Indian.
According to google, 23% of the people living in Canada as of 2021 were not born in Canada. That number is almost certainly higher by now.
I think it's safe to say we might be arguing about a northern border wall in the coming 10-20 years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (uCjyK)
131
Saw a hilarious news story out of England: Experts say the sea levels around the UK may rise over the coming decade!
I mean... just around the British Isles? How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
If it's just the UK, then they did the math backwards. Those islands must be sinking.
I mean... just around the British Isles? How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
If it's just the UK, then they did the math backwards. Those islands must be sinking.
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (IChGZ)
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126 Based on the market's spiking, I get a feeling that a rate cut is expected. Which will accelerate inflation. Which means more profits for corporations and higher RE prices.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (JCZqz)
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When this doesn't happen, this commenter will forget he ever said it.
For some reason.
Also, he'll remember it, and he'll still be right.
All at the same time.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (JCZqz)
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When this doesn't happen, this commenter will forget he ever said it.
For some reason.
Also, he'll remember it, and he'll still be right.
All at the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
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need BOOBS!
Posted by: Bulg"
You've probably seen it before this, but if not, go to "The Other McCain" website and click on the link for Sunday about "add more ginger if needed." Don't say I never gave you anything.
Posted by: Bulg"
You've probably seen it before this, but if not, go to "The Other McCain" website and click on the link for Sunday about "add more ginger if needed." Don't say I never gave you anything.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (2GCMq)
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I'd be happier to see 6.5% than 2.5%.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:18 PM (1F/ig)
If you’re getting 6.5% that means holders of US debt are also getting 6.5%. Or somewhere in that ballpark. Which means a yuuuge expense for the federal government.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:18 PM (1F/ig)
If you’re getting 6.5% that means holders of US debt are also getting 6.5%. Or somewhere in that ballpark. Which means a yuuuge expense for the federal government.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (ImXfC)
135
We're not all we're cracked up to be.
Posted by: The eggs at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (4Y9zn)
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (1F/ig)
137
Saw a hilarious news story out of England: Experts say the sea levels around the UK may rise over the coming decade!
I mean... just around the British Isles? How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (dfIr7)
I thought the UK was still rising after the most recent ice age.
I mean... just around the British Isles? How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (dfIr7)
I thought the UK was still rising after the most recent ice age.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (ExV1e)
138
Canada, believe it or not, is even more screwed than the EU.
Didn't someone show some time ago that Canada, for all their claims of being in the "1st" world, are actually a 3rd world economy that exports things like timber, bauxite, tin and prostitutes like Burma or The Congo.
Didn't someone show some time ago that Canada, for all their claims of being in the "1st" world, are actually a 3rd world economy that exports things like timber, bauxite, tin and prostitutes like Burma or The Congo.
Posted by: I Hate Canada at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (rfMRc)
139
Saw a hilarious news story out of England: Experts say the sea levels around the UK may rise over the coming decade!
I mean... just around the British Isles?
How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
One must sink.
*Atlantis has entered the chat.
I mean... just around the British Isles?
How does that work?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
One must sink.
*Atlantis has entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (4IClK)
140
This wasn't "lower than expected", but what was generally expected. inflation overall was going to start to go up, not down and the estimates were spot on (except the Core CPI estimate was 0.1% off. I.e., 3.0% estimate vs 2.9% actual).
How many times is this guy going to contradict himself? LOL
How many times is this guy going to contradict himself? LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (dfIr7)
141
Reminder:
Canada has a 0.5% growth rate over the last 10 years.
Not 5%. One half of 1%.
Even Japan, Italy and Germany have better than 5%.
And Canada has the largest and richest market in history right next door.
And on top of that shit growth, they've imported over 5 million immigrants.
Hard working, cream-of-the-crop ... welfare leaches.
They are the Sick Man of the Americas.
And they'll drag us down with them if we don't cut them loose.
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So, the Venezuelan Plan, rite?
Canada has a 0.5% growth rate over the last 10 years.
Not 5%. One half of 1%.
Even Japan, Italy and Germany have better than 5%.
And Canada has the largest and richest market in history right next door.
And on top of that shit growth, they've imported over 5 million immigrants.
Hard working, cream-of-the-crop ... welfare leaches.
They are the Sick Man of the Americas.
And they'll drag us down with them if we don't cut them loose.
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So, the Venezuelan Plan, rite?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (W3T6M)
142
The Obama/Biden economists and economic team were big fans of Modern Monetary Theory. Just print money, no worries. But then that damn reality intrudes
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (volu5)
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>>If you’re getting 6.5% that means holders of US debt are also getting 6.5%. Or somewhere in that ballpark. Which means a yuuuge expense for the federal government.
How else are you going to force the Federal Government to reign in their spending?
You gonna wait for them to Vote for it?
How else are you going to force the Federal Government to reign in their spending?
You gonna wait for them to Vote for it?
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (1F/ig)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (tljrc)
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131 If it's just the UK, then they did the math backwards. Those islands must be sinking.
*doggerland has entered the chat*
*doggerland has entered the chat*
Posted by: anachronda at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (v3pYe)
146
Chicks dig the trains!
Posted by: Gomez Addams at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (wVcYX)
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I'd rather shell $3.00 for 18 eggs than $4.00.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (cn0nj)
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (W3T6M)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I hadn't actually seen that yet, thoough I usually check that feature. Thanks! Girl there is yowza!
I hadn't actually seen that yet, thoough I usually check that feature. Thanks! Girl there is yowza!
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:27 PM (77rzZ)
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I'd rather you had the environment to Save for a sizeable Downpayment on a House than Guarantee you a marginal rate on a Mortgage.
Americans need to get back to Saving and building wealth outside of the Market.
But, nearly EVERY decision made on our Economy is one to drive money to the Market.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (1F/ig)
I agree with you on this.
Money has been flowing to DC and Wall Street for decades. Maybe if didn't have Wall Street Bankers in charge of our monetary policy, and DC Deep Staters in charge of our fiscal policy, some of that money would reverse flow back to the rest of the country.
Because, as you say, saving money is almost a fools errand at this point. Which is not conductive for a healthy economy.
Americans need to get back to Saving and building wealth outside of the Market.
But, nearly EVERY decision made on our Economy is one to drive money to the Market.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (1F/ig)
I agree with you on this.
Money has been flowing to DC and Wall Street for decades. Maybe if didn't have Wall Street Bankers in charge of our monetary policy, and DC Deep Staters in charge of our fiscal policy, some of that money would reverse flow back to the rest of the country.
Because, as you say, saving money is almost a fools errand at this point. Which is not conductive for a healthy economy.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:27 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 02:27 PM (2GCMq)
152
Guam gonna capsize!
Posted by: Hank Johnson at July 15, 2025 02:27 PM (4Y9zn)
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getting ready to do a phone interview at 2:30
positive waves would be appreciated
thx
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (tljrc)
Positive waves incoming.
positive waves would be appreciated
thx
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (tljrc)
Positive waves incoming.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:27 PM (uCjyK)
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Inflation I endorse.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (1F/ig)
Does that extend to me?
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM (1F/ig)
Does that extend to me?
Posted by: San Francisco Scrotum Guy at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (wVcYX)
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I question how much Canadians are upset at the US, or how many of them are, but some are certainly raving and frothy about it and its kind of cute like your short girlfriend yelling at you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (dfIr7)
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Like Napoleon and Hitler before him!
Trump Reportedly Wants Zelensky to Strike Deep Into Russian Territory
Trump Reportedly Wants Zelensky to Strike Deep Into Russian Territory
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (L/fGl)
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Do they always have to be Jewish?
Posted by: AN ANTISEMITE WOULD SAY at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (RqMDa)
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I'd be happier to see 6.5% than 2.5%.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:18 PM (1F/ig)
Then interest on the debt can go to $2T, then $3T, and so on...
Pretty soon we'll need 100% tax rates with no spending but interest on the debt but, dammit, we'll have held firm.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:18 PM (1F/ig)
Then interest on the debt can go to $2T, then $3T, and so on...
Pretty soon we'll need 100% tax rates with no spending but interest on the debt but, dammit, we'll have held firm.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (ExV1e)
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getting ready to do a phone interview at 2:30
positive waves would be appreciated
thx
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (tljrc)
Positive waves incoming.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
From here too, Harry. Knock 'em dead!
positive waves would be appreciated
thx
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (tljrc)
Positive waves incoming.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
From here too, Harry. Knock 'em dead!
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: PIXIES at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (1F/ig)
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what about all the tank cars of gasoline & propane & liquid O2?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (dKEEs)
Hehehehe
-------Trashcan Man
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 02:10 PM (dKEEs)
Hehehehe
-------Trashcan Man
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (g8Ew8)
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If you’re getting 6.5% that means holders of US debt are also getting 6.5%. Or somewhere in that ballpark. Which means a yuuuge expense for the federal government.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (ImXfC)
Nice, cute package our betters in DC have set up for us, isn't it?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (ImXfC)
Nice, cute package our betters in DC have set up for us, isn't it?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (uCjyK)
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Have Trump talk on live TV about restoring the gold backing to the dollar.
There's probably not enough gold on the planet to back the number of dollars in circulation.
There's probably not enough gold on the planet to back the number of dollars in circulation.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (XWaIk)
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The more talk the less likely it is to happen. STFU and fire the guy (fed) and get your rook in there, now. Times a wastin
Posted by: Nobody but Us at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (WbcL6)
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Because, as you say, saving money is almost a fools errand at this point. Which is not conductive for a healthy economy.
Yeah, economists are all crying alarms about how little money Americans have put aside in savings but they don't see to understand that everyone figured out that savings are just spending money a little slower than just buying things. You want people to save more money? Make the interest on the savings account higher than inflation.
Yeah, economists are all crying alarms about how little money Americans have put aside in savings but they don't see to understand that everyone figured out that savings are just spending money a little slower than just buying things. You want people to save more money? Make the interest on the savings account higher than inflation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (dfIr7)
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This wasn't "lower than expected", but what was generally expected. inflation overall was going to start to go up, not down and the estimates were spot on (except the Core CPI estimate was 0.1% off. I.e., 3.0% estimate vs 2.9% actual).
How many times is this guy going to contradict himself? LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM
Those guys "talk economics" like it was a magic spell.
You gotta Believe.
How many times is this guy going to contradict himself? LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:25 PM
Those guys "talk economics" like it was a magic spell.
You gotta Believe.
Posted by: Scam Likely at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (jc0TO)
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getting ready to do a phone interview at 2:30
positive waves would be appreciated
thx
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (tljrc)
Positive waves, maaaaan!
positive waves would be appreciated
thx
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 02:26 PM (tljrc)
Positive waves, maaaaan!
Posted by: Sgt. Oddball at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (TbWk/)
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There's probably not enough gold on the planet to back the number of dollars in circulation.
And if we had that much gold in one place it wouldn't be worth that much any more.
And if we had that much gold in one place it wouldn't be worth that much any more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (dfIr7)
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163 Have Trump talk on live TV about restoring the gold backing to the dollar.
There's probably not enough gold on the planet to back the number of dollars in circulation.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (XWaIk)
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Of course there is.
Each dollar would be just worth a very, very small amount of gold.
There's probably not enough gold on the planet to back the number of dollars in circulation.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (XWaIk)
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Of course there is.
Each dollar would be just worth a very, very small amount of gold.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
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The clothing prices seem to indicate women are spending. That's a confidence indicator.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (wzAuc)
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Trump Reportedly Wants Zelensky to Strike Deep Into Russian Territory
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (L/fGl)
That's sort of like ending the war on day one of his presidency. From a certain point of view.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (L/fGl)
That's sort of like ending the war on day one of his presidency. From a certain point of view.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
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Alligator Alcatraz Model Spreads: Kristi Noem Announces Five Red States Join the Fight
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They'll be like Starbucks, one on every corner.
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They'll be like Starbucks, one on every corner.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:31 PM (L/fGl)
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Powell IS boxed in.
And the tariffs just accelerated it because, again, tariffs are deflationary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
Oh, Powell IS boxed in. The ongoing construction of the new Fed HQ building on the Mall is scandalous. Luxury items, cost overruns, etc., etc. If Mr. Powell can't keep his building costs within a budget, then he's obviously the wrong man to manage the country's financial system. I expect to hear much more about this matter from our President, who knows a thing or two about building projects.
And the tariffs just accelerated it because, again, tariffs are deflationary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
Oh, Powell IS boxed in. The ongoing construction of the new Fed HQ building on the Mall is scandalous. Luxury items, cost overruns, etc., etc. If Mr. Powell can't keep his building costs within a budget, then he's obviously the wrong man to manage the country's financial system. I expect to hear much more about this matter from our President, who knows a thing or two about building projects.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:31 PM (rj6Yv)
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Such arrogance from Powell not to step down if the elected POTUS doesn't want him
Trump should fire him to test the issue in court.
Trump should fire him to test the issue in court.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at July 15, 2025 02:32 PM (V6W16)
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According to the World Gold Council, the total amount of gold ever mined is estimated to be around 212,582 tonnes.
Another source suggests that approximately 244,000 tonnes of gold have ever been discovered, including historical production and current known discoveries.
The total amount of gold above ground is estimated to be around 190,040 tonnes, while global gold reserves amount to 60,370 tons.
The amount of gold in known underground reserves is estimated to be around 54,000 tonnes.
The exact amount of gold in the world is difficult to determine due to the various estimates and the fact that gold has been mined for thousands of years.
Another source suggests that approximately 244,000 tonnes of gold have ever been discovered, including historical production and current known discoveries.
The total amount of gold above ground is estimated to be around 190,040 tonnes, while global gold reserves amount to 60,370 tons.
The amount of gold in known underground reserves is estimated to be around 54,000 tonnes.
The exact amount of gold in the world is difficult to determine due to the various estimates and the fact that gold has been mined for thousands of years.
Posted by: AI at July 15, 2025 02:32 PM (jc0TO)
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If I understand correctly inflation is going to skyrocket because all the "Immigrant" "Newcomeers" who do literally all the productive work in Amercia have fled out of fear of being put in death camps*...
That is what I just heard on the radio. Crops rotting in fields. Construction projects abandoned...
*I might have added to part about the death camps, but it was given in a different recent article.
That is what I just heard on the radio. Crops rotting in fields. Construction projects abandoned...
*I might have added to part about the death camps, but it was given in a different recent article.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:32 PM (/lPRQ)
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The clothing prices seem to indicate women are spending. That's a confidence indicator.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
My wife and I were walking around the local mall on Sunday. A lot of stores there are gone, but there are still a lot of jewelry stores in business there.
Also, barber shops and salons.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
My wife and I were walking around the local mall on Sunday. A lot of stores there are gone, but there are still a lot of jewelry stores in business there.
Also, barber shops and salons.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:32 PM (77rzZ)
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173 Oh, Powell IS boxed in. The ongoing construction of the new Fed HQ building on the Mall is scandalous. Luxury items, cost overruns, etc., etc. If Mr. Powell can't keep his building costs within a budget, then he's obviously the wrong man to manage the country's financial system. I expect to hear much more about this matter from our President, who knows a thing or two about building projects.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:31 PM (rj6Yv)
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If he'd cut rates a month or two in, when it was obvious that inflation was slowing, Trump would be largely ignoring the dude.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:31 PM (rj6Yv)
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If he'd cut rates a month or two in, when it was obvious that inflation was slowing, Trump would be largely ignoring the dude.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump Reportedly Wants Zelensky to Strike Deep Into Russian Territory
I can't believe people are falling for that story. Remember how the Russian Election Interference story started? "I heard Trump say something on the phone!"
That is exactly what this story is, some dude saying "Trump said this on a phone call that I overheard!
This is what the left is really good at, and Trump walked right into it like stomping on a rake. Don't give them the opportunity. Don't give them the momentum. Sending weapons to Ukraine, downplaying Epstein, all that does is arm your enemies, he's usually smarter than that.
I can't believe people are falling for that story. Remember how the Russian Election Interference story started? "I heard Trump say something on the phone!"
That is exactly what this story is, some dude saying "Trump said this on a phone call that I overheard!
This is what the left is really good at, and Trump walked right into it like stomping on a rake. Don't give them the opportunity. Don't give them the momentum. Sending weapons to Ukraine, downplaying Epstein, all that does is arm your enemies, he's usually smarter than that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:33 PM (dfIr7)
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155 I question how much Canadians are upset at the US, or how many of them are, but some are certainly raving and frothy about it and its kind of cute like your short girlfriend yelling at you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (dfIr7)
Also keep in mind that when they say "Canadian" they really mean "Indian".
As in, what, 30-40% of Canada is either a recent Indian immigrant or the children of a less recent Indian immigrant?
And, no, the Indians don't think very highly of us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:28 PM (dfIr7)
Also keep in mind that when they say "Canadian" they really mean "Indian".
As in, what, 30-40% of Canada is either a recent Indian immigrant or the children of a less recent Indian immigrant?
And, no, the Indians don't think very highly of us.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:33 PM (uCjyK)
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Whatever happened to that Iran place?
Large chunks of it were exploding the last few days and nobody's taking responsibility.
Large chunks of it were exploding the last few days and nobody's taking responsibility.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 02:33 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Girl, You Know It's True at July 15, 2025 02:33 PM (wVcYX)
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The Ladies charging clothing to their CCs at roughly 30% interest rates is not an indicator of fiscal health.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 02:34 PM (1F/ig)
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How else are you going to force the Federal Government to reign in their spending?
They're not going to cut spending. Ever.
They're going to continue spending all that they can until the entire system collapses and then your 6.5% CDs are worth nothing.
They're not going to cut spending. Ever.
They're going to continue spending all that they can until the entire system collapses and then your 6.5% CDs are worth nothing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:34 PM (ExV1e)
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Powell IS boxed in.
And the tariffs just accelerated it because, again, tariffs are deflationary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Yep. Powell is being disingenous. Tariffs on non essential goods like many excise taxes are essentially deflationary as people consume a bit less of those products.
But indirect taxes generally do not distort the economy as much as taxes on investment and production.
There is a reason why Euro nations and Canada like VAT taxes--easy to collect, diminishes inflation by curbing demand for consumption, and makes domestic industries aim at exports rather than domestic market production.
So people in Euro land and Canada suffer lower living standards as their purchases decrease ceterus paribus while elites in those societies gain via investments and exports. The argument for a VAT is similar to excise/tariffs, they distort investment and production less by curbing consumption voluntarily rather than broad based income taxes. The problem with Euroland is that they have both the VAT AND high corporate/income taxes.
And the tariffs just accelerated it because, again, tariffs are deflationary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Yep. Powell is being disingenous. Tariffs on non essential goods like many excise taxes are essentially deflationary as people consume a bit less of those products.
But indirect taxes generally do not distort the economy as much as taxes on investment and production.
There is a reason why Euro nations and Canada like VAT taxes--easy to collect, diminishes inflation by curbing demand for consumption, and makes domestic industries aim at exports rather than domestic market production.
So people in Euro land and Canada suffer lower living standards as their purchases decrease ceterus paribus while elites in those societies gain via investments and exports. The argument for a VAT is similar to excise/tariffs, they distort investment and production less by curbing consumption voluntarily rather than broad based income taxes. The problem with Euroland is that they have both the VAT AND high corporate/income taxes.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:34 PM (ctrM5)
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170 The clothing prices seem to indicate women are spending. That's a confidence indicator.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (wzAuc)
Women are always spending.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (wzAuc)
Women are always spending.
Posted by: I can't be broke, the credit card still works! at July 15, 2025 02:34 PM (TbWk/)
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And, no, the Indians don't think very highly of us.
Well, fair is fair. It would awkward if they really liked me and I didn't reciprocate.
Well, fair is fair. It would awkward if they really liked me and I didn't reciprocate.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 02:34 PM (7PJXf)
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>>>The Ladies charging clothing to their CCs at roughly 30% interest rates is not an indicator of fiscal health.
it was 25% off!! -- you can't afford not to buy it at these prices
it was 25% off!! -- you can't afford not to buy it at these prices
Posted by: women shopping at July 15, 2025 02:35 PM (jGJov)
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apparently the shit pebble in diahre soup i had earlier didnt agree with my tummy
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 02:35 PM (665yf)
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Shut up, Dunce.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:35 PM (jc0TO)
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They'll be like Starbucks, one on every corner.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6
But can we get our coffee there on the way to work?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6
But can we get our coffee there on the way to work?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:35 PM (/lPRQ)
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>>>Trump's fav pollster, Rasmussen, just announced terrible polling numbers for Trump.
that's going to really hurt his reelection chances
that's going to really hurt his reelection chances
Posted by: Polls are for single mothers at July 15, 2025 02:36 PM (jGJov)
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There's probably not enough gold on the planet to back the number of dollars in circulation.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (XWaIk)
Sure there is. No one says that a dollar has to be worth an ounce. Peg the value of a dollar to a deleted .png of a bar of gold. Done.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (XWaIk)
Sure there is. No one says that a dollar has to be worth an ounce. Peg the value of a dollar to a deleted .png of a bar of gold. Done.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:36 PM (ExV1e)
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the fifth consecutive month of better-than-forecast results.
And the fifth consecutive month of worse-than-results forecasts.
And the fifth consecutive month of worse-than-results forecasts.
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2025 02:36 PM (JUV6P)
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I always read it as allassmunch at first.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:37 PM (jc0TO)
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Damn! I don't read the news ONE DAY and this happens!
Bette Midler Flips Out - Says Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
Bette Midler Flips Out - Says Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:37 PM (L/fGl)
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>>> 174 Such arrogance from Powell not to step down if the elected POTUS doesn't want him
Trump should fire him to test the issue in court.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at July 15, 2025 02:32 PM (V6W16)
OVERRULED!!!
Trump should fire him to test the issue in court.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at July 15, 2025 02:32 PM (V6W16)
OVERRULED!!!
Posted by: District Judge StarWarsName #952 at July 15, 2025 02:37 PM (ULPxl)
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195 I always read it as allassmunch at first.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:37 PM (jc0TO)
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I think his obsession with his own poop is a sign of mental illness, though.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:37 PM (jc0TO)
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I think his obsession with his own poop is a sign of mental illness, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:37 PM (GBKbO)
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There is a precedent for that.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (cn0nj)
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apropos, I have an idea, those who quote trolls are to be banned with the trolls . how's that for an idea ??
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (g47mK)
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It's a long way from Milan to Minsk...
Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle! at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (4Y9zn)
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"Regime hack Jerome Powell cut interest rates just before the election to boost Biden, and refused to raise interest rates throughout most of Biden's reign of inflation. He never cautioned Biden on his massive overspending or linked it to inflation."
Powell is not a good guy, but the probability is that Powell cut the rates just before the election (and if you remember the screaming that it was FAR TO SMALL HE HATES KAMALA) because Yellen was shovelling short term T Bills to the EU Central bank and the Germans and the Fed was forced to monetize them.
Powell is not a good guy, but the probability is that Powell cut the rates just before the election (and if you remember the screaming that it was FAR TO SMALL HE HATES KAMALA) because Yellen was shovelling short term T Bills to the EU Central bank and the Germans and the Fed was forced to monetize them.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (D7oie)
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165 Because, as you say, saving money is almost a fools errand at this point. Which is not conductive for a healthy economy.
Yeah, economists are all crying alarms about how little money Americans have put aside in savings but they don't see to understand that everyone figured out that savings are just spending money a little slower than just buying things. You want people to save more money? Make the interest on the savings account higher than inflation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Traditional saving rate is rather a stupid measure. People have a lot of savings in the form of retirement plans, real estate and houses in some areas, and so on. Savings in a bank is for idiots as banks often pay as little as .1 percent interest when current rates are around 4 percent plus.
The economy has changed but old measures like savings rates remain the same so as to maintain compatibility with old measures.
Same problem with many surveys started in the 50-70's. They keep asking questions of dubious current validity so as to maintain some sort of statistical continuity with past surveys for time series analysis.
Yeah, economists are all crying alarms about how little money Americans have put aside in savings but they don't see to understand that everyone figured out that savings are just spending money a little slower than just buying things. You want people to save more money? Make the interest on the savings account higher than inflation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Traditional saving rate is rather a stupid measure. People have a lot of savings in the form of retirement plans, real estate and houses in some areas, and so on. Savings in a bank is for idiots as banks often pay as little as .1 percent interest when current rates are around 4 percent plus.
The economy has changed but old measures like savings rates remain the same so as to maintain compatibility with old measures.
Same problem with many surveys started in the 50-70's. They keep asking questions of dubious current validity so as to maintain some sort of statistical continuity with past surveys for time series analysis.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (ctrM5)
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nope never mind
the shit pebble diahrea soup was just fine
it was the bleach i drank that was giving me the tummy troubles
the shit pebble diahrea soup was just fine
it was the bleach i drank that was giving me the tummy troubles
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (665yf)
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Bette Midler Flips Out - Says Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
If Trump really did ? I'd let the Epstein stuff slide.
If Trump really did ? I'd let the Epstein stuff slide.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (7PJXf)
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That is exactly what this story is, some dude saying "Trump said this on a phone call that I overheard!
This is what the left is really good at, and Trump walked right into it like stomping on a rake. Don't give them the opportunity. Don't give them the momentum. Sending weapons to Ukraine, downplaying Epstein, all that does is arm your enemies, he's usually smarter than that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Some Other Dude is saying the exact opposite.
They'll go with whatever peaks people's interest. No matter how fabricated and meaningless, they will gasp out 'scandel of the century'.
This is what the left is really good at, and Trump walked right into it like stomping on a rake. Don't give them the opportunity. Don't give them the momentum. Sending weapons to Ukraine, downplaying Epstein, all that does is arm your enemies, he's usually smarter than that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Some Other Dude is saying the exact opposite.
They'll go with whatever peaks people's interest. No matter how fabricated and meaningless, they will gasp out 'scandel of the century'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:39 PM (/lPRQ)
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Bette Midler Flips Out - Says Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:37 PM
The Bovine Miss M.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:37 PM
The Bovine Miss M.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:39 PM (jc0TO)
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Trump walked right into it like stomping on a rake.
Or... it's all a lie. A lie meant to make people get upset about Trump betraying MAGA for the 10th time this month by starting a forever war in eastern Europe.
Or... it's all a lie. A lie meant to make people get upset about Trump betraying MAGA for the 10th time this month by starting a forever war in eastern Europe.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (ExV1e)
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If I understand correctly inflation is going to skyrocket because all the "Immigrant" "Newcomeers" who do literally all the productive work in Amercia have fled out of fear of being put in death camps*...
Tired of this. "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ IS A CONCENTRATION CAMP!!!" No, it's a short-term detention center for illegals. There are no death marches or slave labor or deliberate starvation or gas chambers or ovens. To call it a concentration camp, a deliberate choice of words designed to evoke the horrors of Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsin and dozens of others is an insult and a cheapening of those who actually suffered the Holocaust. There is no comparison to be drawn, at all, whatsoever. What the fuck is wrong with people?
Tired of this. "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ IS A CONCENTRATION CAMP!!!" No, it's a short-term detention center for illegals. There are no death marches or slave labor or deliberate starvation or gas chambers or ovens. To call it a concentration camp, a deliberate choice of words designed to evoke the horrors of Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsin and dozens of others is an insult and a cheapening of those who actually suffered the Holocaust. There is no comparison to be drawn, at all, whatsoever. What the fuck is wrong with people?
Posted by: All amygdala all the time at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (TbWk/)
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Bette Midler Flips Out - Says Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
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Hey, I had tickets to the Frog and Nightgown to see the new singing talent Bette Midler perform on my 18th Birthday which also coincided with the end of the draft and the bitch cancelled. Fuck her.
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Hey, I had tickets to the Frog and Nightgown to see the new singing talent Bette Midler perform on my 18th Birthday which also coincided with the end of the draft and the bitch cancelled. Fuck her.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (W3T6M)
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Check Jerome Powell 's crawlspace for dead children.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (/U5Yz)
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And, no, the Indians don't think very highly of us.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Hindian?
I hear they prefer to be called Hindian.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Hindian?
I hear they prefer to be called Hindian.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (/lPRQ)
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Israel reportedly says it will end the Jolani regime in Syria "within hours" if Jolani doesn't withdraw the troops currently attacking the Druze.
https://tinyurl.com/4dfff2v8
https://tinyurl.com/4dfff2v8
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 15, 2025 02:41 PM (paSBy)
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How else are you going to force the Federal Government to reign in their spending?
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Parapraxis, or intentional?
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Parapraxis, or intentional?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, waxing pedantic at July 15, 2025 02:41 PM (XeU6L)
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209 If I understand correctly inflation is going to skyrocket because all the "Immigrant" "Newcomeers" who do literally all the productive work in Amercia have fled out of fear of being put in death camps*...
Posted by: All amygdala all the time at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (TbWk/)
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We will lose their labor, their welfare payments will stop, and they'll...stop buying groceries and renting apartments.
Holy shit is mass deportation going to be deflationary.
Posted by: All amygdala all the time at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (TbWk/)
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We will lose their labor, their welfare payments will stop, and they'll...stop buying groceries and renting apartments.
Holy shit is mass deportation going to be deflationary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:41 PM (GBKbO)
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Traditional saving rate is rather a stupid measure. People have a lot of savings in the form of retirement plans, real estate and houses in some areas, and so on.
Yeah when I got an inheritance I saw three options: Savings, investment, or real estate. Savings was just slowly burning the money up, Investment I knew nothing about and didn't trust, so I sank it all into renovating the old house. Now, I don't expect to get all that back necessarily but I now have lower energy bills, central air, functioning electricity, a new bathroom and back yard, and lower insurance rates.
My savings is what I live in. I doubt they count that in the savings surveys.
Yeah when I got an inheritance I saw three options: Savings, investment, or real estate. Savings was just slowly burning the money up, Investment I knew nothing about and didn't trust, so I sank it all into renovating the old house. Now, I don't expect to get all that back necessarily but I now have lower energy bills, central air, functioning electricity, a new bathroom and back yard, and lower insurance rates.
My savings is what I live in. I doubt they count that in the savings surveys.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:41 PM (dfIr7)
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Tired of this. "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ IS A CONCENTRATION CAMP!!!" No, it's a short-term detention center for illegals. There are no death marches or slave labor or deliberate starvation or gas chambers or ovens.
My hopes are crushed by your facts and shit.
My hopes are crushed by your facts and shit.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (H4k+z)
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Powell is not a good guy, but the probability is that Powell cut the rates just before the election (and if you remember the screaming that it was FAR TO SMALL HE HATES KAMALA) because Yellen was shovelling short term T Bills to the EU Central bank and the Germans and the Fed was forced to monetize them.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Powell said nothing from 2021-2025 about inflation caused by fiscal policies from the Green Nude Eel and other such idiotic Biden junta policies.
He has run the Fed at a loss for most of his tenure because he failed to raise interest rates at the appropriate time and then cut them to help Yellen and possibly Kamala close to the finish of the 2024 race.
Weak, poor administrator (rebuilding fiasco as example), and he did too little and too late on everything he did in office including raising rates and cutting them.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Powell said nothing from 2021-2025 about inflation caused by fiscal policies from the Green Nude Eel and other such idiotic Biden junta policies.
He has run the Fed at a loss for most of his tenure because he failed to raise interest rates at the appropriate time and then cut them to help Yellen and possibly Kamala close to the finish of the 2024 race.
Weak, poor administrator (rebuilding fiasco as example), and he did too little and too late on everything he did in office including raising rates and cutting them.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (ctrM5)
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Alligator Alcatraz is a Transit Camp.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (cn0nj)
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Posted by: All amygdala all the time at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (TbWk/)
Fun fact of the day - I believe the term "concentration camp" has it's origins in Cuba during the Ten Year War, when the Spanish had to lock up the locals so they'd get their heads right and not support the, ahem, "insurrection against Spanish rule."
But yes, it has nothing to do with immigration processing centers.
Fun fact of the day - I believe the term "concentration camp" has it's origins in Cuba during the Ten Year War, when the Spanish had to lock up the locals so they'd get their heads right and not support the, ahem, "insurrection against Spanish rule."
But yes, it has nothing to do with immigration processing centers.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:43 PM (uCjyK)
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Damn! I don't read the news ONE DAY and this happens!
Bette Midler Flips Out - Says Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6
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When did Better Midler become a District Court Judge ?
Bette Midler Flips Out - Says Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6
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When did Better Midler become a District Court Judge ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:43 PM (/lPRQ)
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If you’re getting 6.5% that means holders of US debt are also getting 6.5%. Or somewhere in that ballpark. Which means a yuuuge expense for the federal government.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (ImXfC)
Oh, and for Blackrock who likes to buy majority shares of companies, then gut them and force them to pay off the debt until they fold. See also, Why Is Cold Stone Creamery Failing.
If Private Equity can make money taking out loans to buy companies to gut them and sell them off in pieces, then the interest rates are too low.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (ImXfC)
Oh, and for Blackrock who likes to buy majority shares of companies, then gut them and force them to pay off the debt until they fold. See also, Why Is Cold Stone Creamery Failing.
If Private Equity can make money taking out loans to buy companies to gut them and sell them off in pieces, then the interest rates are too low.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 02:43 PM (D7oie)
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My savings is what I live in. I doubt they count that in the savings surveys.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Nope. They don't. Same thing on quality measures of goods.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Nope. They don't. Same thing on quality measures of goods.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:43 PM (ctrM5)
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Alligator Alcatraz is a Transit Camp.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (cn0nj)
The genderqueer ideologues take over and it'll be a transition camp.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (cn0nj)
The genderqueer ideologues take over and it'll be a transition camp.
Posted by: Dick chopping for everybody! at July 15, 2025 02:44 PM (TbWk/)
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And, no, the Indians don't think very highly of us.
I think that's largely caste-dependent. Brahmins don't like the USA. The rest seem fine with us. I hope that Trump nukes the H1B program, which is Elon's main reason for turning on him.
I think that's largely caste-dependent. Brahmins don't like the USA. The rest seem fine with us. I hope that Trump nukes the H1B program, which is Elon's main reason for turning on him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:44 PM (dfIr7)
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You know who else had a lot of inflation?
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 15, 2025 02:44 PM (Qr870)
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 02:44 PM (7PJXf)
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Hindian?
I hear they prefer to be called Hindian.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (/lPRQ)
Er, whatever they want to be called. I know it's confusing since we now have more Indians than Indians in the US and Canada.
Call center, not casino.
I hear they prefer to be called Hindian.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:40 PM (/lPRQ)
Er, whatever they want to be called. I know it's confusing since we now have more Indians than Indians in the US and Canada.
Call center, not casino.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:44 PM (uCjyK)
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205 Bette Midler Flips Out - Says Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
If Trump really did ? I'd let the Epstein stuff slide.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things
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I thought Midler ordered troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
If Trump really did ? I'd let the Epstein stuff slide.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things
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I thought Midler ordered troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:45 PM (/lPRQ)
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220 Alligator Alcatraz is a Transit Camp.
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So will pesticides be used in the showers?
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So will pesticides be used in the showers?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 02:45 PM (W3T6M)
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>>> 217 Tired of this. "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ IS A CONCENTRATION CAMP!!!" No, it's a short-term detention center for illegals. There are no death marches or slave labor or deliberate starvation or gas chambers or ovens.
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My hopes are crushed by your facts and shit.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (jc0TO)
This.
I shall be disappointed in Trump unless and until I see work begin on the Dignity Canal.
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My hopes are crushed by your facts and shit.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (jc0TO)
This.
I shall be disappointed in Trump unless and until I see work begin on the Dignity Canal.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 02:45 PM (ULPxl)
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217 Not ovens, furnaces. My Dad was a baker.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 02:45 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:45 PM (L/fGl)
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Yeah, economists are all crying alarms about how little money Americans have put aside in savings but they don't see to understand that everyone figured out that savings are just spending money a little slower than just buying things. You want people to save more money? Make the interest on the savings account higher than inflation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Yeah I gave up on the Bank dream when I was in college and bank told me the little savings account I had since I was 6 or something was going to be confiscated from me because it was too much trouble.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Yeah I gave up on the Bank dream when I was in college and bank told me the little savings account I had since I was 6 or something was going to be confiscated from me because it was too much trouble.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 15, 2025 02:46 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:46 PM (77rzZ)
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Bette Midler is 79 (probably 85+ because she's a liar)I suspect she won't be with us much longer.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 02:46 PM (/U5Yz)
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NFL Great John Elway Won’t Be Charged in Business Partner’s Death
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Good to know.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:45 PM
Saved by the Just Needed Killin' clause.
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Good to know.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 02:45 PM
Saved by the Just Needed Killin' clause.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:46 PM (jc0TO)
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He has run the Fed at a loss for most of his tenure because he failed to raise interest rates at the appropriate time and then cut them to help Yellen and possibly Kamala close to the finish of the 2024 race.
Weak, poor administrator (rebuilding fiasco as example), and he did too little and too late on everything he did in office including raising rates and cutting them.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (ctrM5)
I think there was also something to do with the change from LIBOR to SOFR, which changed the weight of who decided the interest for the Overnight Rate from the Bank of England and ECB (who held the Treasuries in a secondary market) to the New York Fed, if BOE decided to keep the LIBOR rate low, there was not much the Fed could do about it besides lose money.
Weak, poor administrator (rebuilding fiasco as example), and he did too little and too late on everything he did in office including raising rates and cutting them.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:42 PM (ctrM5)
I think there was also something to do with the change from LIBOR to SOFR, which changed the weight of who decided the interest for the Overnight Rate from the Bank of England and ECB (who held the Treasuries in a secondary market) to the New York Fed, if BOE decided to keep the LIBOR rate low, there was not much the Fed could do about it besides lose money.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 02:46 PM (D7oie)
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I think that's largely caste-dependent. Brahmins don't like the USA. The rest seem fine with us. I hope that Trump nukes the H1B program, which is Elon's main reason for turning on him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:44 PM (dfIr7)
In Canada, they've largely imported Punjabis. Which is kind of a twofer, because a lot of Punjabis are also Muslim, depending on which side of the Indian / Paki border they come from. AND, the Muslims, Sikhs and Hindu Punjabis all have a long sordid unfriendly history, which is great.
So it's double the diversity! Buy one get one free on the diversity card.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:44 PM (dfIr7)
In Canada, they've largely imported Punjabis. Which is kind of a twofer, because a lot of Punjabis are also Muslim, depending on which side of the Indian / Paki border they come from. AND, the Muslims, Sikhs and Hindu Punjabis all have a long sordid unfriendly history, which is great.
So it's double the diversity! Buy one get one free on the diversity card.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:47 PM (uCjyK)
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They'll go with whatever peaks people's interest. No matter how fabricated and meaningless, they will gasp out 'scandel of the century'.
Yes, but it doesn't resonate as long as Trump is doing stuff that the people vibe with and are consistent with his campaign rhetoric, his promises. They can scream "concentration camps" all they want about deportations and people still cheer.
Yes, but it doesn't resonate as long as Trump is doing stuff that the people vibe with and are consistent with his campaign rhetoric, his promises. They can scream "concentration camps" all they want about deportations and people still cheer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:47 PM (dfIr7)
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I could be wrong about this, but I do know the ECB is having conniptions over having to borrow US Dollars at the current rate, and the Bank of England and the Brits having yet another Gilt problem, which is what put paid to PM Liz Truss and her economic plans
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 02:48 PM (D7oie)
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Sending weapons to Ukraine
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Trump is being clever on that one by requiring Europe to fund it. and Putin should call it quits on the war unless he wants the whole Ukraine enchilada.
By sending Patriots which are not offensive weapons btw and having Europe aka NATO pay for them, does little more than help keep some civilians from dying from missile and drone strikes.
Putin shows little desire for peace and Z Man certainly doesn't give a shit for how many deaths are happening so Trump is trying to lessen the death toll in Ukraine of the souless battle of drones and missiles.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Trump is being clever on that one by requiring Europe to fund it. and Putin should call it quits on the war unless he wants the whole Ukraine enchilada.
By sending Patriots which are not offensive weapons btw and having Europe aka NATO pay for them, does little more than help keep some civilians from dying from missile and drone strikes.
Putin shows little desire for peace and Z Man certainly doesn't give a shit for how many deaths are happening so Trump is trying to lessen the death toll in Ukraine of the souless battle of drones and missiles.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:48 PM (ctrM5)
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Yeah I gave up on the Bank dream when I was in college and bank told me the little savings account I had since I was 6 or something was going to be confiscated from me because it was too much trouble.
Posted by: Oldcat
Man, talk about destroying their customer base...
Posted by: Oldcat
Man, talk about destroying their customer base...
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 15, 2025 02:48 PM (a+4eV)
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237 Bette Midler is 79 (probably 85+ because she's a liar)I suspect she won't be with us much longer.
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She had a great voice but so did Streisand. Its when they talked that the illusion ends.
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She had a great voice but so did Streisand. Its when they talked that the illusion ends.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 02:48 PM (W3T6M)
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But, nearly EVERY decision made on our Economy is one to drive money to the Market.
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The Wolf of Wall Street.
Everyone sees the flash and money. Laugh, amused.
I see an endless supply of men willing to do anything and everything to take your money.
And they're damned good at it too.
Scary good.
All the rules are written by them, for them.
And they have a whole federal agency to protect them from you, that pretends the opposite; the SEC.
As I've seen it said, everyone want a Lambo like them. And you could take every dime they have, put them on your level.
And in a few years, they'll be back in the Lambo.
Because, they'll do what it takes to get the money; 100-hour coke-fueled weeks, lie, cheat, steal.
You won't.
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The Wolf of Wall Street.
Everyone sees the flash and money. Laugh, amused.
I see an endless supply of men willing to do anything and everything to take your money.
And they're damned good at it too.
Scary good.
All the rules are written by them, for them.
And they have a whole federal agency to protect them from you, that pretends the opposite; the SEC.
As I've seen it said, everyone want a Lambo like them. And you could take every dime they have, put them on your level.
And in a few years, they'll be back in the Lambo.
Because, they'll do what it takes to get the money; 100-hour coke-fueled weeks, lie, cheat, steal.
You won't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:48 PM (Jw2IK)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 02:48 PM (D7oie)
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Dot Not Feathers.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things
229 Hindian?
I hear they prefer to be called Hindian.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Call center, not casino.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Pushstart vs Pullstart
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things
229 Hindian?
I hear they prefer to be called Hindian.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Call center, not casino.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Pushstart vs Pullstart
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (dfIr7)
249
Tired of this. "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ IS A CONCENTRATION CAMP!!!"
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No. That is being done at the old OJ plant where they make the frozen OJ concentrate - One can frozen OJ concentrate, four cans water.
Except it will be 'alien concentrate'.
Sounds good in theory, but I don't think Reconstituted Maria will be cleaning your toilet.
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No. That is being done at the old OJ plant where they make the frozen OJ concentrate - One can frozen OJ concentrate, four cans water.
Except it will be 'alien concentrate'.
Sounds good in theory, but I don't think Reconstituted Maria will be cleaning your toilet.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (/lPRQ)
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Those guys "talk economics" like it was a magic spell.
You gottaBelieve. raise taxes on the rich and redistribute wealth to the poor and working classes!!!!
Posted by: Scam Likely
You gotta
Posted by: Scam Likely
Posted by: Rabid Marxist Economists at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (JCZqz)
251
Israel reportedly says it will end the Jolani regime in Syria "within hours" if Jolani doesn't withdraw the troops currently attacking the Druze.
https://tinyurl.com/4dfff2v8
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
Weren't there some Druze villages that wanted to become part of Israel when the Assad regime fell?
Funny how those terrible Joooooos are all for freedom of religion.
https://tinyurl.com/4dfff2v8
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
Weren't there some Druze villages that wanted to become part of Israel when the Assad regime fell?
Funny how those terrible Joooooos are all for freedom of religion.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (77rzZ)
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Show me a market where tariffs are deflationary.
In markets where they put high tariffs on American agriculture for example, , food is way more expensive. Japan is a good example.
In markets where they put high tariffs on American agriculture for example, , food is way more expensive. Japan is a good example.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (mjCXl)
Posted by: Len Bias at July 15, 2025 02:50 PM (NdCPY)
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Trump is being clever on that one by requiring Europe to fund it. and Putin should call it quits on the war unless he wants the whole Ukraine enchilada.
That is not widely understood but it doesn't even matter. Trump promised peace, not more weapons. This is a mistake, a poor decision I am certain is the result of deals made to get his bill passed.
That is not widely understood but it doesn't even matter. Trump promised peace, not more weapons. This is a mistake, a poor decision I am certain is the result of deals made to get his bill passed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:50 PM (dfIr7)
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In Canada, they've largely imported Punjabis. Which is kind of a twofer, because a lot of Punjabis are also Muslim, depending on which side of the Indian / Paki border they come from. AND, the Muslims, Sikhs and Hindu Punjabis all have a long sordid unfriendly history, which is great.
So it's double the diversity! Buy one get one free on the diversity card.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:47 PM (uCjyK)
They've trained long and hard to defend themselves against the murderous violence of Muslims, and to launch stealthy counterattacks after long-range covert reconnaissance. Hence the saying "Sikh, and ye shall find."
In Canada, they've largely imported Punjabis. Which is kind of a twofer, because a lot of Punjabis are also Muslim, depending on which side of the Indian / Paki border they come from. AND, the Muslims, Sikhs and Hindu Punjabis all have a long sordid unfriendly history, which is great.
So it's double the diversity! Buy one get one free on the diversity card.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:47 PM (uCjyK)
They've trained long and hard to defend themselves against the murderous violence of Muslims, and to launch stealthy counterattacks after long-range covert reconnaissance. Hence the saying "Sikh, and ye shall find."
Posted by: Feeling punny at July 15, 2025 02:50 PM (TbWk/)
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Yes, but it doesn't resonate as long as Trump is doing stuff that the people vibe with and are consistent with his campaign rhetoric, his promises. They can scream "concentration camps" all they want about deportations and people still cheer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:47 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, I want Trump to build as many deportation camps as feasible, and I don't care if the left calls them concentration camps or whatever term they think up.
But I also want Trump to not be a cuck to the Deep State and to release the Epstein files. Oh, and to stop with the fucking wars all over the world.
So I hold contradictory thoughts about Trump in my mind, which seems to me to be pretty normal when it comes to politicians.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:47 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, I want Trump to build as many deportation camps as feasible, and I don't care if the left calls them concentration camps or whatever term they think up.
But I also want Trump to not be a cuck to the Deep State and to release the Epstein files. Oh, and to stop with the fucking wars all over the world.
So I hold contradictory thoughts about Trump in my mind, which seems to me to be pretty normal when it comes to politicians.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:50 PM (uCjyK)
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The clothing prices seem to indicate women are spending. That's a confidence indicator.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (wzAuc)
Many more long dresses and skirts. Part of that is the heat, but there are more out there now than there were in 2016
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (wzAuc)
Many more long dresses and skirts. Part of that is the heat, but there are more out there now than there were in 2016
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (D7oie)
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Trump “Mentally Unfit to Serve,” Ordering Troops “To Gas Citizens and Drag Them to Gulags”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
To be fair, the company does cook when he blows reveille.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
To be fair, the company does cook when he blows reveille.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (MLHNM)
259
Tired of this. "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ IS A CONCENTRATION CAMP!!!"
"They have to brush their teeth the same place where their toilet is!!!"
--Debbie Washerman-Sharkmouth, who apparently has separate rooms for her toilet and sink
"They have to brush their teeth the same place where their toilet is!!!"
--Debbie Washerman-Sharkmouth, who apparently has separate rooms for her toilet and sink
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (dfIr7)
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252 Show me a market where tariffs are deflationary.
In markets where they put high tariffs on American agriculture for example, , food is way more expensive. Japan is a good example.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (mjCXl)
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Inflation and deflation isn't just prices on individual goods.
That's like saying killing hens is inflationary because it raises egg prices.
Tariffs are deflationary because they decrease the flow of dollars in an economy. They do not raise the amount of dollars in an economy. They act as a disincentive towards purchasing.
So, tariffs, like other government taxes and fees, have slight deflationary effects in the aggregate.
In markets where they put high tariffs on American agriculture for example, , food is way more expensive. Japan is a good example.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (mjCXl)
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Inflation and deflation isn't just prices on individual goods.
That's like saying killing hens is inflationary because it raises egg prices.
Tariffs are deflationary because they decrease the flow of dollars in an economy. They do not raise the amount of dollars in an economy. They act as a disincentive towards purchasing.
So, tariffs, like other government taxes and fees, have slight deflationary effects in the aggregate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
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I really don't have a problem with the Sikhs. They're pretty friendly people and like to run liquor stores.
The Hindus and Muzzies can jump in a lake, though.
The Hindus and Muzzies can jump in a lake, though.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)
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You gotta Believe. raise taxes on the rich and redistribute wealth to the poor and working classes!!!!
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Tax the rich
Feed the poor
Till there are no
Rich no more
You gotta Believe. raise taxes on the rich and redistribute wealth to the poor and working classes!!!!
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Tax the rich
Feed the poor
Till there are no
Rich no more
Posted by: Ten Years After at July 15, 2025 02:52 PM (XeU6L)
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> Because it was easier than doing all that work themselves?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (fCgdX)
For the amount of money the Fed rakes in, I'm pretty sure that Congress could hire sufficient staff to take care of it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (fCgdX)
For the amount of money the Fed rakes in, I'm pretty sure that Congress could hire sufficient staff to take care of it.
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 02:52 PM (qpyNK)
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242 I could be wrong about this, but I do know the ECB is having conniptions over having to borrow US Dollars at the current rate, and the Bank of England and the Brits having yet another Gilt problem, which is what put paid to PM Liz Truss and her economic plans
Posted by: Kindltot
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You aren't. BoE has wrung similar independence from government as the Fed has and has been keeping rates there high due to Labor overspending. So Labor keeps raising taxes that kill economic growth so they can keep on social spending but still borrowing more too.
Now the question is becoming old pensioners support for heating bills over council flats for illegals and immigrants. A minority of population voted for such a government and despite its large majority, Labor is politically as adrift as Tories are. Reform, remains to be seen.
Posted by: Kindltot
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You aren't. BoE has wrung similar independence from government as the Fed has and has been keeping rates there high due to Labor overspending. So Labor keeps raising taxes that kill economic growth so they can keep on social spending but still borrowing more too.
Now the question is becoming old pensioners support for heating bills over council flats for illegals and immigrants. A minority of population voted for such a government and despite its large majority, Labor is politically as adrift as Tories are. Reform, remains to be seen.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:52 PM (ctrM5)
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Because, as you say, saving money is almost a fools errand at this point. Which is not conductive for a healthy economy.
Yeah, economists are all crying alarms about how little money Americans have put aside in savings but they don't see to understand that everyone figured out that savings are just spending money a little slower than just buying things. You want people to save more money? Make the interest on the savings account higher than inflation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Traditional saving rate is rather a stupid measure. People have a lot of savings in the form of retirement plans, real estate and houses in some areas, and so on. Savings in a bank is for idiots as banks often pay as little as .1 percent interest when current rates are around 4 percent plus.
The economy has changed but old measures like savings rates remain the same so as to maintain compatibility with old measures.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (ctrM5)
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Savings is idiotic and only benefits banks. No rich people have any "savings." They keep their liquid money in higher-yield investments. The rich know how to make their money work for them, not for the banks.
Yeah, economists are all crying alarms about how little money Americans have put aside in savings but they don't see to understand that everyone figured out that savings are just spending money a little slower than just buying things. You want people to save more money? Make the interest on the savings account higher than inflation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Traditional saving rate is rather a stupid measure. People have a lot of savings in the form of retirement plans, real estate and houses in some areas, and so on. Savings in a bank is for idiots as banks often pay as little as .1 percent interest when current rates are around 4 percent plus.
The economy has changed but old measures like savings rates remain the same so as to maintain compatibility with old measures.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:38 PM (ctrM5)
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Savings is idiotic and only benefits banks. No rich people have any "savings." They keep their liquid money in higher-yield investments. The rich know how to make their money work for them, not for the banks.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:52 PM (iFTx/)
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The big inflation dog that didn't bark is the fact that the Ds have never thrown Powell under the bus when it would be so easy to just blame inflation on him. The timing for that would have been perfect going into the 2024 election but it could have helped at 2022 election time too.
Almost like they're saying 'Powell is on our team' without saying anything the MSM needs to fix.
Almost like they're saying 'Powell is on our team' without saying anything the MSM needs to fix.
Posted by: JAMES at July 15, 2025 02:52 PM (DePyg)
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But I also want Trump to not be a cuck to the Deep State and to release the Epstein files. Oh, and to stop with the fucking wars all over the world.
Exactly, see how it works? This stupid crap he's doing pisses off the base and independent voters, and makes the left's attacks effective, it makes them bite.
Even people here are probably upset that the Republicans in congress shot down a bill proposal to release the Epstein files. Sounds awful, doesn't it? Sounds like Trump is in trouble?
Except the bill would have required ALL files released, publicly online -- even the videos of underaged girls being molested by fat ugly elites. Which obviously cannot be done.
But the attack resonates, because its something Trump screwed us on, and is the reverse of what he campaigned on.
Exactly, see how it works? This stupid crap he's doing pisses off the base and independent voters, and makes the left's attacks effective, it makes them bite.
Even people here are probably upset that the Republicans in congress shot down a bill proposal to release the Epstein files. Sounds awful, doesn't it? Sounds like Trump is in trouble?
Except the bill would have required ALL files released, publicly online -- even the videos of underaged girls being molested by fat ugly elites. Which obviously cannot be done.
But the attack resonates, because its something Trump screwed us on, and is the reverse of what he campaigned on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM (dfIr7)
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> Debbie Washerman-Sharkmouth, who apparently has separate rooms for her toilet and sink
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (dfIr7)
She has a separate room just for applying mayonnaise to her hair -- like the "newspaper ironing rooms" you used to find on old English estates.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (dfIr7)
She has a separate room just for applying mayonnaise to her hair -- like the "newspaper ironing rooms" you used to find on old English estates.
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM (qpyNK)
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Tariffs are deflationary because they decrease the flow of dollars in an economy. They do not raise the amount of dollars in an economy. They act as a disincentive towards purchasing.
So, tariffs, like other government taxes and fees, have slight deflationary effects in the aggregate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
Are you speaking of the velocity of money? Where V = GDP/M where M is the M1 or M2 money supply.
So, tariffs, like other government taxes and fees, have slight deflationary effects in the aggregate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
Are you speaking of the velocity of money? Where V = GDP/M where M is the M1 or M2 money supply.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: man at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (tubbA)
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They keep their liquid money in higher-yield investments. The rich know how to make their money work for them, not for the banks.
I agree, but if you aren't rich, only have a little money, having your money in savings is marginally better than having it sitting in a drawer under your socks. Both are being degraded by inflation but one gains a sliver of interest.
I agree, but if you aren't rich, only have a little money, having your money in savings is marginally better than having it sitting in a drawer under your socks. Both are being degraded by inflation but one gains a sliver of interest.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (dfIr7)
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Are you speaking of the velocity of money? Where V = GDP/M where M is the M1 or M2 money supply.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM
Burn the witch!
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM
Burn the witch!
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (jc0TO)
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Are you speaking of the velocity of money? Where V = GDP/M where M is the M1 or M2 money supply.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM (rj6Yv)
Look at the fancy guy with his letters and numbers.
I'm going to steal your lunch money, you nerd.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM (rj6Yv)
Look at the fancy guy with his letters and numbers.
I'm going to steal your lunch money, you nerd.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (uCjyK)
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Inflation and deflation isn't just prices on individual goods.
That's like saying killing hens is inflationary because it raises egg prices.
Tariffs are deflationary because they decrease the flow of dollars in an economy. They do not raise the amount of dollars in an economy. They act as a disincentive towards purchasing.
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The double-digit inflation of the Biden years caused the price of food and gas to go up.
Not the price of shit from China.
And, as you've pointed out, we grow our own food and drill our own oil:
So, how can tariffs cause inflation?
That's like saying killing hens is inflationary because it raises egg prices.
Tariffs are deflationary because they decrease the flow of dollars in an economy. They do not raise the amount of dollars in an economy. They act as a disincentive towards purchasing.
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The double-digit inflation of the Biden years caused the price of food and gas to go up.
Not the price of shit from China.
And, as you've pointed out, we grow our own food and drill our own oil:
So, how can tariffs cause inflation?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (Jw2IK)
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Show me a market where tariffs are deflationary.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (mjCXl)
The United States of America.
Deflation accelerated after Smoot-Hawley was enacted in June of 1930. It (the Smoot-Hawley tariff) interacted with U.S. monetary policy to reduce aggregate demand, more than offsetting any inflationary impact of the reduced aggregate supply.
The response of asset markets to news about Smoot-Hawley also supports that view.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (mjCXl)
The United States of America.
Deflation accelerated after Smoot-Hawley was enacted in June of 1930. It (the Smoot-Hawley tariff) interacted with U.S. monetary policy to reduce aggregate demand, more than offsetting any inflationary impact of the reduced aggregate supply.
The response of asset markets to news about Smoot-Hawley also supports that view.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 02:56 PM (fCgdX)
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Show me a market where tariffs are deflationary.
In markets where they put high tariffs on American agriculture for example, , food is way more expensive. Japan is a good example.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (mjCXl)
It's still better than the seaweed and rotten fish the Japanese usually eat.
In markets where they put high tariffs on American agriculture for example, , food is way more expensive. Japan is a good example.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 02:49 PM (mjCXl)
It's still better than the seaweed and rotten fish the Japanese usually eat.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 02:56 PM (g8Ew8)
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+Higher borrowing rates for the Federal Government is part of an acceleration doom loop.
Can tariffs and DOGE cuts bring us back?
Can tariffs and DOGE cuts bring us back?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 02:56 PM (u82oZ)
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She has a separate room just for applying mayonnaise to her hair -- like the "newspaper ironing rooms" you used to find on old English estates.
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
I saw a picture of her recently, and she's even uglier that I remember. That hair. Yech.
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
I saw a picture of her recently, and she's even uglier that I remember. That hair. Yech.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:56 PM (77rzZ)
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274 And, as you've pointed out, we grow our own food and drill our own oil:
So, how can tariffs cause inflation?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (Jw2IK)
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We grow about 90% of our own food, but we do import a shocking amount of our refined gasoline.
So, how can tariffs cause inflation?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (Jw2IK)
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We grow about 90% of our own food, but we do import a shocking amount of our refined gasoline.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:56 PM (GBKbO)
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There's probably not enough gold on the planet to back the number of dollars in circulation.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (XWaIk)
There is, actually. Just not at the stated spot price.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2025 02:29 PM (XWaIk)
There is, actually. Just not at the stated spot price.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 02:57 PM (D7oie)
281
Tired of this. "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ IS A CONCENTRATION CAMP!!!"
"They have to brush their teeth the same place where their toilet is!!!"
--Debbie Washerman-Sharkmouth, who apparently has separate rooms for her toilet and sink
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
I had that in the last house. Master Bath was open to the Master BR. The toilet was in a little room off to the side (no direct line of sight to the Master BR). Very classy. Had its own light and exhaust fan.
Wanted to put in a crystal chandelier but moved before I found the right one.
"They have to brush their teeth the same place where their toilet is!!!"
--Debbie Washerman-Sharkmouth, who apparently has separate rooms for her toilet and sink
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
I had that in the last house. Master Bath was open to the Master BR. The toilet was in a little room off to the side (no direct line of sight to the Master BR). Very classy. Had its own light and exhaust fan.
Wanted to put in a crystal chandelier but moved before I found the right one.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 02:57 PM (/lPRQ)
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That is not widely understood but it doesn't even matter. Trump promised peace, not more weapons. This is a mistake, a poor decision I am certain is the result of deals made to get his bill passed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
He proposed a negotiated peace. Neither Z Man nor Putin (and in this case, Putin is winning and sees no need to negotiate right now). The blame is more on those guys than Trump. You still haven't mentioned that those weapons were designed to kill missiles and drones though.
That is generally a good and consistent US policy that we have supported in a lot of wars--We don't sell offensive arms but defensive arms are ok.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
He proposed a negotiated peace. Neither Z Man nor Putin (and in this case, Putin is winning and sees no need to negotiate right now). The blame is more on those guys than Trump. You still haven't mentioned that those weapons were designed to kill missiles and drones though.
That is generally a good and consistent US policy that we have supported in a lot of wars--We don't sell offensive arms but defensive arms are ok.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:57 PM (ctrM5)
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The Hindus and Muzzies can jump in a lake, though.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)
Actually they can't because it's Haram.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)
Actually they can't because it's Haram.
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 15, 2025 02:57 PM (Qr870)
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If I understand correctly inflation is going to skyrocket because all the "Immigrant" "Newcomeers" who do literally all the productive work in Amercia have fled out of fear of being put in death camps*...
On the other hand, Central American economies are going to skyrocket now that they have these valuable people back.
On the other hand, Central American economies are going to skyrocket now that they have these valuable people back.
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2025 02:57 PM (hvkfA)
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Concentration Camps ? I'm sorry - but I see nothing awful about a place where you sit around all day flipping two tiles, trying to match the animals or toys. Boring ? Sure. But hardly torture.
Trumps pimp hand has become weak. I did not vote for this.
Trumps pimp hand has become weak. I did not vote for this.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 02:58 PM (7PJXf)
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Can tariffs and DOGE cuts bring us back?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 02:56 PM (u82oZ)
No, they're drops in the bucket compared to the astronomical mind blowing amount of debt our government has and the annual costs to service that debt.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 02:56 PM (u82oZ)
No, they're drops in the bucket compared to the astronomical mind blowing amount of debt our government has and the annual costs to service that debt.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 02:58 PM (uCjyK)
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Inflation up 0.1 % means within a week we will be in a deep recession...
We need Joe Biden to stop this now !!!!!
We need Joe Biden to stop this now !!!!!
Posted by: Allotta Fagina at July 15, 2025 02:58 PM (BltCC)
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They keep their liquid money in higher-yield investments. The rich know how to make their money work for them, not for the banks.
I agree, but if you aren't rich, only have a little money, having your money in savings is marginally better than having it sitting in a drawer under your socks. Both are being degraded by inflation but one gains a sliver of interest.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (dfIr7)
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No offense, but that is old thinking. Anyone can open up a discount brokerage account for free from companies like etrade. Make broker-free trades in safe, higher-yield investments and cash out when necessary. No requirement to hold 90 days or whatever. If stocks are too risky, then get bonds or other instruments. It's better than savings and better than keeping money in a sock drawer.
I agree, but if you aren't rich, only have a little money, having your money in savings is marginally better than having it sitting in a drawer under your socks. Both are being degraded by inflation but one gains a sliver of interest.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 02:55 PM (dfIr7)
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No offense, but that is old thinking. Anyone can open up a discount brokerage account for free from companies like etrade. Make broker-free trades in safe, higher-yield investments and cash out when necessary. No requirement to hold 90 days or whatever. If stocks are too risky, then get bonds or other instruments. It's better than savings and better than keeping money in a sock drawer.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:58 PM (iFTx/)
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The Hindus and Muzzies can jump in a lake, though.
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In a related note, catfish is not "seafood".
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In a related note, catfish is not "seafood".
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (TN0g+)
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Nood. Cali being Cali.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)
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288 No offense, but that is old thinking. Anyone can open up a discount brokerage account for free from companies like etrade. Make broker-free trades in safe, higher-yield investments and cash out when necessary. No requirement to hold 90 days or whatever. If stocks are too risky, then get bonds or other instruments. It's better than savings and better than keeping money in a sock drawer.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:58 PM (iFTx/)
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90% in the QQQs. The final 10% in a put option hedge of the QQQs.
Done.
There's the investment advice.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 02:58 PM (iFTx/)
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90% in the QQQs. The final 10% in a put option hedge of the QQQs.
Done.
There's the investment advice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (GBKbO)
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Debbie, Debbie, Debbie, mayonnaise (or probably Miracle Whip) is not a hair product. You should know more than anybody the cooties breed there.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (gm9Sb)
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He proposed a negotiated peace. Neither Z Man nor Putin (and in this case, Putin is winning and sees no need to negotiate right now). The blame is more on those guys than Trump. You still haven't mentioned that those weapons were designed to kill missiles and drones though.
You're not getting the point. I'm not arguing "Trump shouldn't do this." I am arguing "this looks really bad to normal people and that makes them vulnerable to the left's attacks"
By doing this, it makes stuff that would slide off Trump like water off a Swan's back land more effectively. He has empowered his enemies by appearing to be like every other politician that gets into office and does the opposite of what he campaigned on.
You're not getting the point. I'm not arguing "Trump shouldn't do this." I am arguing "this looks really bad to normal people and that makes them vulnerable to the left's attacks"
By doing this, it makes stuff that would slide off Trump like water off a Swan's back land more effectively. He has empowered his enemies by appearing to be like every other politician that gets into office and does the opposite of what he campaigned on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (dfIr7)
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> Brahmins don't like the USA.
Everything about their religion tells them that they are divinely ordained to be at the top of the dung heap, born to boss around anyone at a lower level.
Then they come here and learn that, not only do we not respect their God(s)-given status, but that we don't recognize their stupid and evil caste system in the first place.
Not surprising they don't like it. Think "Post-Civil War former plantation owner who finds himself sitting in the same train car with a Negro".
You know what? They can go fuck themselves.
Everything about their religion tells them that they are divinely ordained to be at the top of the dung heap, born to boss around anyone at a lower level.
Then they come here and learn that, not only do we not respect their God(s)-given status, but that we don't recognize their stupid and evil caste system in the first place.
Not surprising they don't like it. Think "Post-Civil War former plantation owner who finds himself sitting in the same train car with a Negro".
You know what? They can go fuck themselves.
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (qpyNK)
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He proposed a negotiated peace. Neither Z Man nor Putin (and in this case, Putin is winning and sees no need to negotiate right now). The blame is more on those guys than Trump. You still haven't mentioned that those weapons were designed to kill missiles and drones though.
That is generally a good and consistent US policy that we have supported in a lot of wars--We don't sell offensive arms but defensive arms are ok.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:57 PM (ctrM5)
I'd rather just nuke both of them.
That is generally a good and consistent US policy that we have supported in a lot of wars--We don't sell offensive arms but defensive arms are ok.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:57 PM (ctrM5)
I'd rather just nuke both of them.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (g8Ew8)
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She has a separate room just for applying mayonnaise to her hair -- like the "newspaper ironing rooms" you used to find on old English estates.
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
I saw a picture of her recently, and she's even uglier that I remember. That hair. Yech.
Posted by: Bulg
I don't get the Mayo-Hair. Seen it in quite a few others too (usually from PR)
Does anybody think that looks good?
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
I saw a picture of her recently, and she's even uglier that I remember. That hair. Yech.
Posted by: Bulg
I don't get the Mayo-Hair. Seen it in quite a few others too (usually from PR)
Does anybody think that looks good?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (/lPRQ)
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No offense, but that is old thinking. Anyone can open up a discount brokerage account for free from companies like etrade. Make broker-free trades in safe, higher-yield investments and cash out when necessary.
What's the minimum to start an account? Can Sally Withers with 5 extra bucks at the end of the month to put into savings get in on this action? See what I mean by poor people?
What's the minimum to start an account? Can Sally Withers with 5 extra bucks at the end of the month to put into savings get in on this action? See what I mean by poor people?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
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297 What's the minimum to start an account? Can Sally Withers with 5 extra bucks at the end of the month to put into savings get in on this action? See what I mean by poor people?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
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Yes.
Acorns is such an app.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
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Yes.
Acorns is such an app.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:02 PM (GBKbO)
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He has empowered his enemies by appearing to be like every other politician that gets into office and does the opposite of what he campaigned on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (dfIr7)
You're right.
I'm livid that Trump's increasing illegal immigration while expanding Education and USAID and letting Iran work towards a nuke.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (dfIr7)
You're right.
I'm livid that Trump's increasing illegal immigration while expanding Education and USAID and letting Iran work towards a nuke.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 03:02 PM (fCgdX)
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277 +Higher borrowing rates for the Federal Government is part of an acceleration doom loop.
Can tariffs and DOGE cuts bring us back?
Posted by: NaCly Dog
It gets a little weird when general economic theory does little to differentiate reserve currencies versus normal ones.
Essentially default when debt is too high (we are right at 100 debt to GDP) occurs via inflation and/or formal default.
Japan is currently at something well over 300 percent debt to GDP ratio but yet relatively tame inflation which according to current theory should be impossible. At the same time, Japan is aging, slow to zero population increase and a strong possibility to enter a declining population.
So tipping points are hard to decipher. Some countries default formally over and over again--Argentina for example. Places like Zimbabwe, Venezuela, or Turkey just keep the presses printing. Two of those are basket cases yet Turkey is relatively still productive despite persistent very high inflation.
I think a country's internal cohesion in the end matters more than percentages,etc and that economists fail consistently to measure. People and societies are not potatoes. They have volition.
Can tariffs and DOGE cuts bring us back?
Posted by: NaCly Dog
It gets a little weird when general economic theory does little to differentiate reserve currencies versus normal ones.
Essentially default when debt is too high (we are right at 100 debt to GDP) occurs via inflation and/or formal default.
Japan is currently at something well over 300 percent debt to GDP ratio but yet relatively tame inflation which according to current theory should be impossible. At the same time, Japan is aging, slow to zero population increase and a strong possibility to enter a declining population.
So tipping points are hard to decipher. Some countries default formally over and over again--Argentina for example. Places like Zimbabwe, Venezuela, or Turkey just keep the presses printing. Two of those are basket cases yet Turkey is relatively still productive despite persistent very high inflation.
I think a country's internal cohesion in the end matters more than percentages,etc and that economists fail consistently to measure. People and societies are not potatoes. They have volition.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (ctrM5)
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Except the bill would have required ALL files released, publicly online --
even the videos of underaged girls being molested by fat ugly elites. Which obviously cannot be done.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Why not? Says who? If you don't have your dick in a little girl, you don't have anything to worry about.
even the videos of underaged girls being molested by fat ugly elites. Which obviously cannot be done.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Why not? Says who? If you don't have your dick in a little girl, you don't have anything to worry about.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (4IClK)
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Can Sally Withers with 5 extra bucks at the end of the month to put into savings get in on this action? See what I mean by poor people?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
I started mine with $100.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
I started mine with $100.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (fCgdX)
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even the videos of underaged girls being molested by fat ugly elites. Which obviously cannot be done.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Why not? Says who? If you don't have your dick in a little girl, you don't have anything to worry about.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (4IClK)
Because posting videos of children engaged in sex acts is a felony.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Why not? Says who? If you don't have your dick in a little girl, you don't have anything to worry about.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (4IClK)
Because posting videos of children engaged in sex acts is a felony.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (fCgdX)
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Because posting videos of children engaged in sex acts is a felony.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
So they can't pixelate their faces? The news does it all the time for every crime involving a minor.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
So they can't pixelate their faces? The news does it all the time for every crime involving a minor.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (4IClK)
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I saw a picture of her recently, and she's even uglier that I remember. That hair. Yech.
Posted by: Bulg
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The makeovers that Vogue did were like miracle transformations.
http://tiny.cc/ehgp001
But, apparently they were like Cinderella.
I saw a picture of her recently, and she's even uglier that I remember. That hair. Yech.
Posted by: Bulg
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The makeovers that Vogue did were like miracle transformations.
http://tiny.cc/ehgp001
But, apparently they were like Cinderella.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (XeU6L)
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I'd rather just nuke both of them.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
Easier to just drone their leaders but that creates other problems as in their substitutes might even be worse.
Neither country is what we consider a democracy. Zman is now a dictator and Putin an elected autocrat.
So they want to keep fighting, they will until either one of those assholes feels the effects personally. I doubt either of them give one solid shit for their countrymen despite all their flowery language claiming the opposite. Putin won but wants to continue to pursue the Ukrainians for vengeance and thereby sowing the seeds of future problems. Zelinksy refuse to admit he lost because he is likely to lose everything if he does that.
So the pointless war continues much like Iran-Iraq in the 80's.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
Easier to just drone their leaders but that creates other problems as in their substitutes might even be worse.
Neither country is what we consider a democracy. Zman is now a dictator and Putin an elected autocrat.
So they want to keep fighting, they will until either one of those assholes feels the effects personally. I doubt either of them give one solid shit for their countrymen despite all their flowery language claiming the opposite. Putin won but wants to continue to pursue the Ukrainians for vengeance and thereby sowing the seeds of future problems. Zelinksy refuse to admit he lost because he is likely to lose everything if he does that.
So the pointless war continues much like Iran-Iraq in the 80's.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Now the question is becoming old pensioners support for heating bills over council flats for illegals and immigrants. A minority of population voted for such a government and despite its large majority, Labor is politically as adrift as Tories are. Reform, remains to be seen.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:52 PM (ctrM5)
They apparently are planning to solve both problems by putting all the pensions into government bonds, that will unfortunately get a devaluation in value along with the poor results of the economy in general. which makes it suck to be a pensioner.
Europe is instituting capital controls to keep Euros from converting to Dollars and fleeing the country. Spain was talking about a fine of 3,000 euros for failing to report cash withdrawals exceeding 150 euros within 24 hours.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:52 PM (ctrM5)
They apparently are planning to solve both problems by putting all the pensions into government bonds, that will unfortunately get a devaluation in value along with the poor results of the economy in general. which makes it suck to be a pensioner.
Europe is instituting capital controls to keep Euros from converting to Dollars and fleeing the country. Spain was talking about a fine of 3,000 euros for failing to report cash withdrawals exceeding 150 euros within 24 hours.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (D7oie)
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So they can't pixelate their faces? The news does it all the time for every crime involving a minor.
Posted by: rickb223
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Not their bodies. You would have to pixellate the whole damn thing for children.
Posted by: rickb223
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Not their bodies. You would have to pixellate the whole damn thing for children.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (ctrM5)
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If Private Equity can make money taking out loans to buy companies to gut them and sell them off in pieces, then the interest rates are too low.
Posted by: Kindltot
Or the market values them too low
Posted by: Kindltot
Or the market values them too low
Posted by: MkY at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (+Pp+Q)
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They apparently are planning to solve both problems by putting all the pensions into government bonds, that will unfortunately get a devaluation in value along with the poor results of the economy in general. which makes it suck to be a pensioner.
Europe is instituting capital controls to keep Euros from converting to Dollars and fleeing the country. Spain was talking about a fine of 3,000 euros for failing to report cash withdrawals exceeding 150 euros within 24 hours.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Ah yes. Return to the postwar Euro strategy of currency controls. Nails the little guy while the elites glide past such measures. But, it might make Guernsey and Jersey lively again.
Europe is instituting capital controls to keep Euros from converting to Dollars and fleeing the country. Spain was talking about a fine of 3,000 euros for failing to report cash withdrawals exceeding 150 euros within 24 hours.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Ah yes. Return to the postwar Euro strategy of currency controls. Nails the little guy while the elites glide past such measures. But, it might make Guernsey and Jersey lively again.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (ctrM5)
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Are you speaking of the velocity of money? Where V = GDP/M where M is the M1 or M2 money supply.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM (rj6Yv)
Velocity of money is essentially "kiting checks"
it is "just in time" banking.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 02:54 PM (rj6Yv)
Velocity of money is essentially "kiting checks"
it is "just in time" banking.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (D7oie)
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Japan is currently at something well over 300 percent debt to GDP ratio but yet relatively tame inflation which according to current theory should be impossible. At the same time, Japan is aging, slow to zero population increase and a strong possibility to enter a declining population.
I think a country's internal cohesion in the end matters more than percentages,etc and that economists fail consistently to measure. People and societies are not potatoes. They have volition.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (ctrM5)
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Japan's Fed was/is? actively purchasing government debt and equities. If still occurring, I'd hate to think what their markets would do if their Fed stopped their support.
I think a country's internal cohesion in the end matters more than percentages,etc and that economists fail consistently to measure. People and societies are not potatoes. They have volition.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (ctrM5)
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Japan's Fed was/is? actively purchasing government debt and equities. If still occurring, I'd hate to think what their markets would do if their Fed stopped their support.
Posted by: WisRich at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (G0vdT)
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309 If Private Equity can make money taking out loans to buy companies to gut them and sell them off in pieces, then the interest rates are too low.
Posted by: Kindltot
Private equity (and public corporations) are effectively subsidized by allowing those corporations to deduct interest payments on those loans.
Personally, I think we should favor issuing preferred stock for such ventures rather than financing via borrowing fueld by interest deductions.
Less problem with instability caused by debt leverage.
Posted by: Kindltot
Private equity (and public corporations) are effectively subsidized by allowing those corporations to deduct interest payments on those loans.
Personally, I think we should favor issuing preferred stock for such ventures rather than financing via borrowing fueld by interest deductions.
Less problem with instability caused by debt leverage.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (ctrM5)
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Japan's Fed was/is? actively purchasing government debt and equities. If still occurring, I'd hate to think what their markets would do if their Fed stopped their support.
Posted by: WisRich
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It won't because Japan is a cohesive society. Eventually holders of those bonds will take a haircut is my guess but the entire society will have a rough couple of years when formal default occurs someday. The cost of what they are doing is a perpetual frozen economy which has driven a lot of Japanese companies to invest abroad in production facilities rather than at home.
Posted by: WisRich
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It won't because Japan is a cohesive society. Eventually holders of those bonds will take a haircut is my guess but the entire society will have a rough couple of years when formal default occurs someday. The cost of what they are doing is a perpetual frozen economy which has driven a lot of Japanese companies to invest abroad in production facilities rather than at home.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Not their bodies. You would have to pixellate the whole damn thing for children.
Posted by: whig
I'm fine with that. I only want the world to see the fat ugly pigs.
Posted by: whig
I'm fine with that. I only want the world to see the fat ugly pigs.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (4IClK)
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By doing this, it makes stuff that would slide off Trump like water off a Swan's back land more effectively. He has empowered his enemies by appearing to be like every other politician that gets into office and does the opposite of what he campaigned on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Not really. He has made repeated moves to try to get Russia and Ukraine to the bargaining table. If Trump had done or said nothing, you might have had a point. But I doubt sending Patriot missiles to Ukraine with NATO paying for them will move the needle one damn bit.
Americans care if we pay for it or are involved in it, not so much that we sell arms to other countries.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Not really. He has made repeated moves to try to get Russia and Ukraine to the bargaining table. If Trump had done or said nothing, you might have had a point. But I doubt sending Patriot missiles to Ukraine with NATO paying for them will move the needle one damn bit.
Americans care if we pay for it or are involved in it, not so much that we sell arms to other countries.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (ctrM5)
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315 Not their bodies. You would have to pixellate the whole damn thing for children.
Posted by: whig
I'm fine with that. I only want the world to see the fat ugly pigs.
Posted by: rickb223
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Well, you have somewhere over 20 lawsuits against Maxwell and/or Epstein's estate involving victims. But judges are loathe to require plaintiffs to sign off on releasing morbid details. Same with autopsy photos in crimes.
Posted by: whig
I'm fine with that. I only want the world to see the fat ugly pigs.
Posted by: rickb223
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Well, you have somewhere over 20 lawsuits against Maxwell and/or Epstein's estate involving victims. But judges are loathe to require plaintiffs to sign off on releasing morbid details. Same with autopsy photos in crimes.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (ctrM5)
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I'm fine with that. I only want the world to see the fat ugly pigs.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM
I don't want to see or hear that. A compromise that would work would be to release still photos of the perps with everything else blurred and cropped.
I'm fine with that. I only want the world to see the fat ugly pigs.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM
I don't want to see or hear that. A compromise that would work would be to release still photos of the perps with everything else blurred and cropped.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (hs4ik)
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I don't want to see or hear that. A compromise that would work would be to release still photos of the perps with everything else blurred and cropped.
Posted by: CaliGirl
That's fine too. But if they are allowed to hide, they'll never be brought to justice.
Posted by: CaliGirl
That's fine too. But if they are allowed to hide, they'll never be brought to justice.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (4IClK)
Trump Advises Prosecution of Adam Schiff for Mortgage Fraud
This doesn't seem like a big story but it's a slow news day.
The problem is that Schiff claims his Maryland home is his primary residence in order to get a lower interest rate for the mortgage. But the law says that a Senator must actually reside in his home state (California, in Schiff's case). This could be characterized as mortgage fraud, but I dunno. We all know that most senators live permanently in the DC area and the idea that they are primarily residents of their "home" state is just another fiction in the Empire of Lies. Then again, I have been reliably informed that No One Is Above the Law, even when it comes to ticky-tack stuff like keeping a napkin you wrote a note on as president.This isn't much of a post so I'll try to find another story within 30-40 minutes.
President Donald Trump on Tuesday urged "justice" for Sen. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., after Fannie Mae's Financial Crimes Division concluded that he engaged in a sustained pattern of possible mortgage fraud. "I have always suspected Shifty Adam Schiff was a scam artist. And now I learn that Fannie Mae's Financial Crimes Division have concluded that Adam Schiff has engaged in a sustained pattern of possible Mortgage Fraud," Trump posted on Truth Social. "Adam Schiff said that his primary residence was in MARYLAND to get a cheaper mortgage and rip off America, when he must LIVE in CALIFORNIA because he was a Congressman from CALIFORNIA," he added. "I always knew Adam Schiff was a Crook. The FRAUD began with the refinance of his Maryland property on February 6, 2009, and continued through multiple transactions until the Maryland property was correctly designated as a second home on October 13, 2020. Mortgage Fraud is very serious, and CROOKED Adam Schiff (now a Senator) needs to be brought to justice." Fannie Mae has not issued a public statement as of press time.
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Schifty Schiff
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (VE6XX)
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I can see where a senator lying on a mortgage app is way more serious than a senator going to a billionaire sex Island.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (nHxWJ)
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Lock him up! Lock him up!
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (a/dOO)
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This isn't much of a post so I'll try to find another story within 30-40 minutes.
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Will it be about Star Trek?
Otherwise...
So, about Star Trek...
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Will it be about Star Trek?
Otherwise...
So, about Star Trek...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (nHxWJ)
Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
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5 Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (nHxWJ)
Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
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Look at what you did...
Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
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Look at what you did...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
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I will take a prosecution, Hey it is a start, and if I had done it I would be prosecuted.
Posted by: picric at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (13tTk)
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Let the noticing begin.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (cn0nj)
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It's only fraud if a non-senator does it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (srdUp)
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Look at what you did...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
Damn...
Look at what you did...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
Damn...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (Y8DZL)
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I love this kind of thing. This is a tactic President Trump uses to put people on the defensive.
The GOP needs to learn this lesson.
The GOP needs to learn this lesson.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (tT6L1)
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Rarrrrrrr
Posted by: Slow Newsday Mugato at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (jc0TO)
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>>> 5 Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (nHxWJ)
Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
TJM is in here and he hasn't *once* mentioned Prometheus.
Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
TJM is in here and he hasn't *once* mentioned Prometheus.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (ULPxl)
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The only fair test: If it were Trump accused of this, would they prosecute?
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (bNf8H)
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The feds should squeeze him until his eye bug out of his head.
Wait, that won't work for some reason.
Wait, that won't work for some reason.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (a/dOO)
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18 USC 1014
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (DoOmQ)
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14 TJM is in here and he hasn't *once* mentioned Prometheus.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (ULPxl)
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I hadn't even considered it!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (ULPxl)
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I hadn't even considered it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Look at what you did...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
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*debates on mentioning Prometheus. Decides against it. Oh, wait....*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
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*debates on mentioning Prometheus. Decides against it. Oh, wait....*
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (tT6L1)
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Willowed yet still on topic:
There are at least two sets of laws in this country and there isn't a damn legal thing we can do about it. -mh
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If there are two sets of laws, then nothing is legal or illegal.
There are at least two sets of laws in this country and there isn't a damn legal thing we can do about it. -mh
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If there are two sets of laws, then nothing is legal or illegal.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (JvZF+)
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TJM is in here and he hasn't *once* mentioned Prometheus.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (ULPxl)
At this point I'd take Prometheus... Well.. On second thought
TJM is in here and he hasn't *once* mentioned Prometheus.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (ULPxl)
At this point I'd take Prometheus... Well.. On second thought
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (VE6XX)
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Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
Look who's joined the cover-up, boys.
Just goes to prove that all Donnas are bad.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
Look who's joined the cover-up, boys.
Just goes to prove that all Donnas are bad.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (srdUp)
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DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!!
Posted by: Adam Schiff at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (jc0TO)
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I've seen worse threads....
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (g47mK)
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Come to me. I will be merciful and quick.
Posted by: Slow News Day Gorn at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (wVcYX)
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As long as fucktards like Schiff get harassed to no end, I'm good. Press it. Make him dig into funds he'd rather spend on his other proclivities.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (Q4IgG)
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Bug eyed fucker.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (ufFY8)
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23 DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!!
Posted by: Adam Schiff at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (jc0TO)
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I understood this reference.
Posted by: Adam Schiff at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (jc0TO)
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I understood this reference.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
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Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
Not without a note from Epstein’s mother explaining his absence.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
Not without a note from Epstein’s mother explaining his absence.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (JRP2U)
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How many guys in the Trump orbit were prosecuted for mortgage fraud? Make Dems live by their own rules.
Posted by: Eddie Baby at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (s19xO)
31
Ya fat tish James did the same thing. And nothing happened.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (MGB5H)
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What, doesn't everyone buy a mansion in another state, declare it as a primary residence for the mortgage advantage, and still live and work in another state to avoid the high taxes?
is this wrong? Isn't it enough that I register my automobiles correctly?
is this wrong? Isn't it enough that I register my automobiles correctly?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (D7oie)
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15 The only fair test: If it were Trump accused of this, would they prosecute?
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (bNf8H)
They would try to give him the death penalty for littering if he were to drop a napkin for a few seconds before picking it up.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (bNf8H)
They would try to give him the death penalty for littering if he were to drop a napkin for a few seconds before picking it up.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (a/dOO)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (77rzZ)
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So, about Star Trek...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)
Fine. My thesis: Garak was one of the best written and most robust and realistic characters in the entirety of Star Trek.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)
Fine. My thesis: Garak was one of the best written and most robust and realistic characters in the entirety of Star Trek.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
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Laws don't apply to Senators.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (cn0nj)
37
I mean, I've seen worse posts. This can be the worst thread in the last ten years, for all I know !
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (g47mK)
38
I see this as perfectly legal.
Posted by: Tish James, Head Legal Beyotch in Charge at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (JvZF+)
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (Pv3Rg)
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>>> 23 DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!!
Posted by: Adam Schiff at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (jc0TO)
Shouldn't that be legislative immunity? Similar to that bint judge in WI or MN, wherever they/them was... or is Shifty claiming CA is a different country?
Posted by: Adam Schiff at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (jc0TO)
Shouldn't that be legislative immunity? Similar to that bint judge in WI or MN, wherever they/them was... or is Shifty claiming CA is a different country?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (ULPxl)
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Fine. My thesis: Garak was one of the best written and most robust and realistic characters in the entirety of Star Trek.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
If it ain't the original series, it ain't Star Trek.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
If it ain't the original series, it ain't Star Trek.
Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2025 01:19 PM (i0F8b)
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If it ain't the original series, it ain't Star Trek.
Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2025 01:19 PM (i0F8b)
My thoughts exactly
Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2025 01:19 PM (i0F8b)
My thoughts exactly
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (VE6XX)
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could do a thread on Cuomo refusing to not run as an Indy
that seems ... kinda bad news
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (Pv3Rg)
I bet the calculation is that the Dem voters will go for Cuomo once they see what Madnanny is actually offering.
that seems ... kinda bad news
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (Pv3Rg)
I bet the calculation is that the Dem voters will go for Cuomo once they see what Madnanny is actually offering.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (D7oie)
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Shifty claiming CA is a different country?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (ULPxl)
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yeah, that ship may have already sailed......
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (ULPxl)
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yeah, that ship may have already sailed......
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (tT6L1)
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This is Trump's reminder that "You guys played footsy with the law to come after me--payback's a bitch."
Its inexcusable how *cheap* this makes Schiff look. He's a publicly elected official from the state of California, and rather than acknowledging that and paying the extra 1-2% in APR for a "2nd home" purchase he checked the "primary residence" box. Its not only "fraud" because its a blatant misrepresentation, its chintzy as hell. The cool kids should laugh and point...but they won't, because the cool kids in DC are crooks too.
Its inexcusable how *cheap* this makes Schiff look. He's a publicly elected official from the state of California, and rather than acknowledging that and paying the extra 1-2% in APR for a "2nd home" purchase he checked the "primary residence" box. Its not only "fraud" because its a blatant misrepresentation, its chintzy as hell. The cool kids should laugh and point...but they won't, because the cool kids in DC are crooks too.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (TN0g+)
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32 What, doesn't everyone buy a mansion in another state, declare it as a primary residence for the mortgage advantage, and still live and work in another state to avoid the high taxes?
is this wrong? Isn't it enough that I register my automobiles correctly?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (D7oie)
Realistically, nothing would happen if you or I did this. But if someone decided to make something happen or come after us for some reason, they would certainly use it.
Schiff is a member in good standing of the Deep State. Not only will nothing come of this, but I also put "light mortgage fraud to get a slightly better interest rate" near the bottom of the crimes these assholes commit on a daily basis.
is this wrong? Isn't it enough that I register my automobiles correctly?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (D7oie)
Realistically, nothing would happen if you or I did this. But if someone decided to make something happen or come after us for some reason, they would certainly use it.
Schiff is a member in good standing of the Deep State. Not only will nothing come of this, but I also put "light mortgage fraud to get a slightly better interest rate" near the bottom of the crimes these assholes commit on a daily basis.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
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31 Ya fat tish James did the same thing. And nothing happened.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (MGB5H)
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That's still active.
The criminal referral has not been dismissed or anything.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (MGB5H)
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That's still active.
The criminal referral has not been dismissed or anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (GBKbO)
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Being an Eeyore here, I know...
I don't think FNMA is going to do much of anything with this. Yeah, it's a thing, but given who it is and the bureaucratic leanings of FNMA, I think it's going to just get buried with some vague language about how there's no evidence of wrongdoing or something.
I don't think FNMA is going to do much of anything with this. Yeah, it's a thing, but given who it is and the bureaucratic leanings of FNMA, I think it's going to just get buried with some vague language about how there's no evidence of wrongdoing or something.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (PzXaK)
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"This could be characterized as mortgage fraud, but I dunno."
It is mortgage fraud. But it's a "fraud" that everyone with more than one property always does. I do it myself.
The banks all know about it and look the other way. The banks care even less about this than they do the property owner's estimation of the property's value. You can't defraud someone who knows you're lying.
What state is Adam Shitt's driver's license? I'll bet CA. The bank would easily notice this when he provided it as ID at the closing. The bank didn't care.
It is mortgage fraud. But it's a "fraud" that everyone with more than one property always does. I do it myself.
The banks all know about it and look the other way. The banks care even less about this than they do the property owner's estimation of the property's value. You can't defraud someone who knows you're lying.
What state is Adam Shitt's driver's license? I'll bet CA. The bank would easily notice this when he provided it as ID at the closing. The bank didn't care.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (iFTx/)
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This is nothing more than a rather clever message.
The Democrat party is still headless. And, while Schiff isn't one to lead the party, it shows that the administration is willing to smack those that start making waves. The administration did the same with Letisha James days after she announced that she was pursuing Trump in court on a new issue.
The minute someone of substance sticks their head up, the administration is going to focus on them with a laser and stuff like Schiff's Mortgage hits the news. It guarantees that the Democrat party remains headless, wandering, and in the hands of idiot radicals like Crockett.
The Democrat party is still headless. And, while Schiff isn't one to lead the party, it shows that the administration is willing to smack those that start making waves. The administration did the same with Letisha James days after she announced that she was pursuing Trump in court on a new issue.
The minute someone of substance sticks their head up, the administration is going to focus on them with a laser and stuff like Schiff's Mortgage hits the news. It guarantees that the Democrat party remains headless, wandering, and in the hands of idiot radicals like Crockett.
Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (dIske)
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Fine. My thesis: Garak was one of the best written and most robust and realistic characters in the entirety of Star Trek.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
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I just started S.4 of Deep Space Nine and you might be right.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
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I just started S.4 of Deep Space Nine and you might be right.
Posted by: Tish James, Head Legal Beyotch in Charge at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (JvZF+)
52
That bug eyed bastard needs a flaming pineapple rammed up his ass.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (W2Pud)
53
/fat psycho sock off
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (JvZF+)
54
broken window process. Start with crimes, no matter how small (you and I would be crucified for mortgage fraud) and then start working your way up the stonewall. These creeps are so obviously crooked, we need to chip away at their "privilege"
Posted by: Wingnutt at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (97e6L)
55
I hereby proclaim this to be the yuuuugest most beautiful thread ever!
Posted by: President Trump-no, really at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (tT6L1)
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I heard he also said he's an American Indian so he could get a break on the mortgage insurance.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (PzXaK)
57
I mean, I don't really care about this.
Also, fuck Adam Schiff.
In conclusion - warm up the chopper!
Also, fuck Adam Schiff.
In conclusion - warm up the chopper!
Posted by: The_Hoser at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (f4jia)
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Normally I'd say let it go...but Schiff. Fuck that guy in particular.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (D1vbu)
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I don't think you can claim multiple primary residences.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (jc0TO)
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I bet the calculation is that the Dem voters will go for Cuomo once they see what Madnanny is actually offering.
that is a plan .. but the fault lies in how unlikeable Cuomo is, and how unlikely the young/former and current college student-ish population is to vote for him
I mean, if that's the thought, it's a wrong thought
that is a plan .. but the fault lies in how unlikeable Cuomo is, and how unlikely the young/former and current college student-ish population is to vote for him
I mean, if that's the thought, it's a wrong thought
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Nazdar at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (NcvvS)
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56 I heard he also said he's an American Indian so he could get a break on the mortgage insurance.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (PzXaK)
How...
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (PzXaK)
How...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (VE6XX)
63
Wow, a lefty woman who smiles, and has normal-colored hair and no visible tats or weird piercings. She is cute.
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg
Don't use your real name?
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg
Don't use your real name?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (CGT3R)
64
Is that Fauci guy in jail yet?
Posted by: I gotta ask at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (4Y9zn)
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (Pce4l)
66
"Donald Trump is taking unprecedented steps to bend our justice system to his will. And his administration is moving systematically and swiftly to dismantle the legal pillars that hold up our democracy: the independence of our legal system, the idea of impartial justice, the right to counsel and the principle that no one, not even a president, is above the law."
and guess where that's from:
https://tinyurl.com/2uukp4db
and guess where that's from:
https://tinyurl.com/2uukp4db
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (CWTWj)
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Fine. My thesis: Garak was one of the best written and most robust and realistic characters in the entirety of Star Trek.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
Reasonable, though I hated the verbal fencing matches he had with Bashir in the first season. I got bored.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
Reasonable, though I hated the verbal fencing matches he had with Bashir in the first season. I got bored.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (PzXaK)
Posted by: McLurkerson at July 15, 2025 01:23 PM (wW0AW)
69
I saw Prometheus and I liked it.
Did it make sense? No.
Was it too long? Yes.
Was the story ridiculous? Yes.
Fight me.
Did it make sense? No.
Was it too long? Yes.
Was the story ridiculous? Yes.
Fight me.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 01:23 PM (JvZF+)
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Schiff looks like a Pez dispenser.
Harass him on all fronts, I say. Mortgage fraud, jaywalking, spitting on the sidewalk, "parading". Make him feel the pain of government persecution 24/7.
Harass him on all fronts, I say. Mortgage fraud, jaywalking, spitting on the sidewalk, "parading". Make him feel the pain of government persecution 24/7.
Posted by: Paco at July 15, 2025 01:23 PM (mADJX)
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Garak smiles too much. Never trust a smiling Cardassian.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:23 PM (jc0TO)
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I don't know how "primary residence" was defined in the mortgage document. Though, I tend to think both lenders and insurers care to know in which house the owner actually spends most of his time. So, possibly the Maryland one, even despite the pretense of endless-terms congresspeople being residents of the district they represent.
So, I'd have to see the mortgage itself to say anything wrong was done. Yes, I'm a lawyer.
(Wherever he lives, I have trouble seeing Schiff as representing the interests of his constituents, any more. He's a propagandist for the national party, and loyal to his own vanity only. Not crimes. But those things are worse than mortgage fraud.)
So, I'd have to see the mortgage itself to say anything wrong was done. Yes, I'm a lawyer.
(Wherever he lives, I have trouble seeing Schiff as representing the interests of his constituents, any more. He's a propagandist for the national party, and loyal to his own vanity only. Not crimes. But those things are worse than mortgage fraud.)
Posted by: KLA at July 15, 2025 01:23 PM (R1Eqe)
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I just started S.4 of Deep Space Nine and you might be right.
Posted by: Tish James, Head Legal Beyotch in Charge at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (JvZF+)
He has an actual developed character arc, he is driven by often times conflicting views of morality and right and wrong, is immensely selfish, but can also be incredibly self sacrificing when its called for, and at no point in the show (I guess until the last season) do you have any confidence about whose side he's on.
Posted by: Tish James, Head Legal Beyotch in Charge at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (JvZF+)
He has an actual developed character arc, he is driven by often times conflicting views of morality and right and wrong, is immensely selfish, but can also be incredibly self sacrificing when its called for, and at no point in the show (I guess until the last season) do you have any confidence about whose side he's on.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:24 PM (uCjyK)
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The only fair test: If it were Trump accused of this, would they prosecute?
Posted by: Frasier Crane
The only really fair test:
if it were you, what size prison orange jumpsuit do you where? LG or XLG.
Posted by: Frasier Crane
The only really fair test:
if it were you, what size prison orange jumpsuit do you where? LG or XLG.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 01:24 PM (4IClK)
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I heard he also said he's an American Indian so he could get a break on the mortgage insurance.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
He's a lying dogface pony soldier!
Posted by: WitchDoktor
He's a lying dogface pony soldier!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:24 PM (CGT3R)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 01:24 PM (JvZF+)
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The only fair test: If it were Trump accused of this, would they prosecute?
Posted by: Frasier Crane
The only really fair test:
if it were you, what size prison orange jumpsuit do you where? LG or XLG.
F'n Siri! *wear
Posted by: Frasier Crane
The only really fair test:
if it were you, what size prison orange jumpsuit do you where? LG or XLG.
F'n Siri! *wear
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 01:24 PM (4IClK)
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I mean, if that's the thought, it's a wrong thought
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (Pv3Rg)
You play the hand you got or you cash out and go home. The cool kids hate Adams and Cuomo, so they vote Madnanny in protest. If he is shown to be as bad as the other two, then Cuomo has the best name in the race, at least with the people with money to spread around.
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (Pv3Rg)
You play the hand you got or you cash out and go home. The cool kids hate Adams and Cuomo, so they vote Madnanny in protest. If he is shown to be as bad as the other two, then Cuomo has the best name in the race, at least with the people with money to spread around.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM (D7oie)
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Shifty Adam Schiff was a scam artist
I don't think he quite rises to the level of "artist." Maybe "practitioner."
I don't think he quite rises to the level of "artist." Maybe "practitioner."
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM (rF2iL)
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The left is so used to getting away with these little parts of corruption they don't even recognize normal people get prosecuted for them
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM (t0Rmr)
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Adam Schiff is a member of the political party with the sole, exclusive right to rule the United States as it and it alone sees fit. So nothing will happen.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM (Pce4l)
82
Say -- whatever happened to the other CA Senator? You know, that drama-queen faggot who whined like a little bitch when he was arrested at Noem's presser in the middle of a gay homosexual attempt at a dominance display.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM (iFTx/)
83
Might as well, it's not like the Democrats will be restrained when they are back in power.
Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM (YwEeS)
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What a dumbass. Schitt should have bought a yacht to engage in mortgage fraud instead of a mansion. Ask Francois Kerry.
What a dumbass. Schitt should have bought a yacht to engage in mortgage fraud instead of a mansion. Ask Francois Kerry.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM (y9nCu)
85
In all seriousness, why wouldn't someone be prosecuted for fraud for this? That's exactly what it is.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (srdUp)
86
Reasonable, though I hated the verbal fencing matches he had with Bashir in the first season. I got bored.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (PzXaK)
Yeah, the first season of DS9 actually kind of sucks on rewatch. It gets much better as time goes on, which is not usually how shows work.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (PzXaK)
Yeah, the first season of DS9 actually kind of sucks on rewatch. It gets much better as time goes on, which is not usually how shows work.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (uCjyK)
87
Schiff is such a colossal douche that my recommendation is simply to take him at his word and declare his seat in the Senate invalid. Reason? Because he's a Marylander.
California can whine but then we can refuse funding to their state.
California can whine but then we can refuse funding to their state.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (1ET9J)
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I think the reason he got a break on the APR is because surrounding home values tend to go way down wherever he moves.
I have a morbid curiosity as to how he'd be at HOA meetings though...
"I have a source that Mrs. Thompson has been illegally...ILLEGALLY...using an HOA-banned substance to help fertilize the begonias in her garden!"
I have a morbid curiosity as to how he'd be at HOA meetings though...
"I have a source that Mrs. Thompson has been illegally...ILLEGALLY...using an HOA-banned substance to help fertilize the begonias in her garden!"
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (PzXaK)
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Say -- whatever happened to the other CA Senator? You know, that drama-queen faggot who whined like a little bitch when he was arrested at Noem's presser in the middle of a gay homosexual attempt at a dominance display.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM
The Senior Senator that even Californians can't pick out of a lineup?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM
The Senior Senator that even Californians can't pick out of a lineup?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (jc0TO)
90
He's a lying dogface pony soldier!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:24 PM (CGT3R)
Can you get a rate discount for that?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:24 PM (CGT3R)
Can you get a rate discount for that?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (rF2iL)
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re 82: i.c.e arrested him at home depot and deported him to costco
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (CWTWj)
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86 Yeah, the first season of DS9 actually kind of sucks on rewatch. It gets much better as time goes on, which is not usually how shows work.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (uCjyK)
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It's how most of Star Trek works, though.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (uCjyK)
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It's how most of Star Trek works, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Say -- whatever happened to the other CA Senator? You know, that drama-queen faggot who whined like a little bitch when he was arrested at Noem's presser in the middle of a gay homosexual attempt at a dominance display.
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Jose Padilla. He's the third based coach for the Giant's Mexican League affiliate.
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Jose Padilla. He's the third based coach for the Giant's Mexican League affiliate.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (TN0g+)
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89 Say -- whatever happened to the other CA Senator? You know, that drama-queen faggot who whined like a little bitch when he was arrested at Noem's presser in the middle of a gay homosexual attempt at a dominance display.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM
The Senior Senator that even Californians can't pick out of a lineup?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (jc0TO)
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He keeps crying on camera that Trump's going to deport him, or something.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:25 PM
The Senior Senator that even Californians can't pick out of a lineup?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (jc0TO)
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He keeps crying on camera that Trump's going to deport him, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump is retaliating against Madmani!
The New York City subway system flooded during intense storms yesterday and the videos terrify me
The New York City subway system flooded during intense storms yesterday and the videos terrify me
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (CGT3R)
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Jerry Brown did two stoned terms as governor, then two psychedelic terms as Mayor of Oakland, then two more coked-up unconstitutional terms as Governor. Easily elected and re-elected each time.
Keep fvcking that chicken NY.
Keep fvcking that chicken NY.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (JvZF+)
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I'm imagining a lot of senators right now are rethinking their own choices of where to list their permanent residences.
Probably a lot of them do it.
And a fair number of congress-critters, especially those who've been around longer than Methuselah, are doing the same thing.
Probably a lot of them do it.
And a fair number of congress-critters, especially those who've been around longer than Methuselah, are doing the same thing.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (6ydKt)
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85 In all seriousness, why wouldn't someone be prosecuted for fraud for this? That's exactly what it is.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (srdUp)
I'm not disagreeing with you, but also, realistically, there are a lot of people who have a much higher tolerance for bending the rules then I do, and nothing ever seems to happen to them.
Shit, half of NYC is walking around with out of state or city drivers licenses and not paying city income tax here. But no one is getting arrested for that.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (srdUp)
I'm not disagreeing with you, but also, realistically, there are a lot of people who have a much higher tolerance for bending the rules then I do, and nothing ever seems to happen to them.
Shit, half of NYC is walking around with out of state or city drivers licenses and not paying city income tax here. But no one is getting arrested for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (uCjyK)
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Look at what you did...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer
Damn...
Posted by: It's me donna
Prometheus is a 2012 science fiction horror film directed by Ridley Scott and written by Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof. It is the fifth installment of the Alien film series and features an ensemble cast including Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender, Guy Pearce, Idris Elba, Logan Marshall-Green, and Charlize Theron. Set in the late 21st century, the film centers on the crew of the spaceship Prometheus as it follows a star map discovered among the artifacts of several ancient Earth cultures. Seeking the origins of humanity, the crew arrives on a distant world and discovers a threat that could cause human extinction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer
Damn...
Posted by: It's me donna
Prometheus is a 2012 science fiction horror film directed by Ridley Scott and written by Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof. It is the fifth installment of the Alien film series and features an ensemble cast including Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender, Guy Pearce, Idris Elba, Logan Marshall-Green, and Charlize Theron. Set in the late 21st century, the film centers on the crew of the spaceship Prometheus as it follows a star map discovered among the artifacts of several ancient Earth cultures. Seeking the origins of humanity, the crew arrives on a distant world and discovers a threat that could cause human extinction.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (tyhyG)
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Maybe the people being set on fire will get some relief.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (cn0nj)
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Jose Padilla. He's the third based coach for the Giant's Mexican League affiliate.
Posted by: Crusader
Wasn't he the guy who was part of the 9/11 gang?
Posted by: Crusader
Wasn't he the guy who was part of the 9/11 gang?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (77rzZ)
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I hope someone asks Shiffy about the Standard Hotel in California...and his buddy, Ed Buck.
Or the Chateau Marmont.
Or Ted Lieu.
Apparently I have questions. This is a start to put the spotlight back on his ugly face.
Or the Chateau Marmont.
Or Ted Lieu.
Apparently I have questions. This is a start to put the spotlight back on his ugly face.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (6PCLE)
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wait, when kamala resigned to run with joe depends didn't grusome newsom give the cal senate seat to a woman from maryland? do dems understand anything about like geography?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (CWTWj)
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As you said, in the long run, Are you retarded Sir--Jeantel did not help the prosecution any.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)
I liked her. I wonder what she's up to these days.
"are you retarded sir" was a classic, as was "i don't read cursive."
Or when she said Trayvon told her he was going to go confront some "creppy ass n*gga" (IIRC the words correctly) who was following him, but then said that words do not denote sexuality or race.
She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
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If you listened to her testimony, it wasn't clear whether she was a defense or prosecution witness. Some of the things she testified to were damning for the prosecution. She was either really dumb or secretly had it in for Trayvon. Maybe both.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)
I liked her. I wonder what she's up to these days.
"are you retarded sir" was a classic, as was "i don't read cursive."
Or when she said Trayvon told her he was going to go confront some "creppy ass n*gga" (IIRC the words correctly) who was following him, but then said that words do not denote sexuality or race.
She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
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If you listened to her testimony, it wasn't clear whether she was a defense or prosecution witness. Some of the things she testified to were damning for the prosecution. She was either really dumb or secretly had it in for Trayvon. Maybe both.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (iFTx/)
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I book me a lot of cabins, but they ain't my primary residence.
Posted by: Nathan Wade, Esq. at July 15, 2025 01:29 PM (G5+As)
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Schiff's solemn reply to the President reads:
"I'm rubber, you're glue, what you say bounces off me and will be used to prosecute you".
He added, " nana a boo boo".
Schiff's solemn reply to the President reads:
"I'm rubber, you're glue, what you say bounces off me and will be used to prosecute you".
He added, " nana a boo boo".
Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2025 01:29 PM (Y8DZL)
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The Senior Senator that even Californians can't pick out of a lineup?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (jc0TO)
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Hey. He was elected by us. That's all you need to know anyway.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (jc0TO)
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Hey. He was elected by us. That's all you need to know anyway.
Posted by: The Party at July 15, 2025 01:29 PM (JvZF+)
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The New York City subway system flooded during intense storms yesterday and the videos terrify me
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (CGT3R)
Yeah, it does that sometimes.
The flood waters in the subway are beyond disgusting, walking through ankle deep sewage water on my commute home from work is never fun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (CGT3R)
Yeah, it does that sometimes.
The flood waters in the subway are beyond disgusting, walking through ankle deep sewage water on my commute home from work is never fun.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:29 PM (uCjyK)
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and ace, never worry about a thin news day. just post something and we'll make our own fun for an hour or two.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (CWTWj)
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She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
Ace was live blogging her court case and it was hilarious!
She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
Ace was live blogging her court case and it was hilarious!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (6PCLE)
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Congress members have some weird living arrangements. Some will go and rent a large house and share it with 3 or 4 others. To keep costs down. They're only there for part of the year anyway. Other like Joe Manchin rented/leased a yacht in one of the marinas. Don't think it ever left the dock the whole time he was there.
Then there's former Speaker McCarthy's living arrangements with his "friend."
Then there's former Speaker McCarthy's living arrangements with his "friend."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (Q4IgG)
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Mortgage fraud, tax fraud, stock trading fraud, immigration fraud, election fraud, campaign fraud, . . .
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (wVcYX)
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From last thread indict Schiff for mortgage fraud and see if he'll spill the beans on the 1/6 committee. Tell his attorneys if he won't deal , full prosecution and also go to court on his autopen pardon. Take Schiff out of his comfort zone of lies and I doubt he's a tough guy
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (volu5)
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54 broken window process. Start with crimes, no matter how small (you and I would be crucified for mortgage fraud) and then start working your way up the stonewall. These creeps are so obviously crooked, we need to chip away at their "privilege"
Posted by: Wingnutt at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (97e6L)
How are they still allowed their little insider trading con. I wish we would be able to do away with that.
Posted by: Wingnutt at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (97e6L)
How are they still allowed their little insider trading con. I wish we would be able to do away with that.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 15, 2025 01:31 PM (vZUXb)
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One of the cats recently hurked up a massive hairball. That tiny little long-haired kitty was carrying a lump of compacted felt the size of my thumb in her gullet. Poor little lady.
The word for today is "bezoar" Use it wisely.
The word for today is "bezoar" Use it wisely.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:31 PM (D7oie)
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Just post a Joe Mannix babe pic.
Posted by: Guys everywhere at July 15, 2025 01:31 PM (4Y9zn)
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29 Can we make this a no Epstein thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
Not without a note from Epstein’s mother explaining his absence.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (JRP2U)
Please excuse Epstein from this thread
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
Not without a note from Epstein’s mother explaining his absence.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (JRP2U)
Please excuse Epstein from this thread
Posted by: signed - Epstein's Mother at July 15, 2025 01:31 PM (8hxDK)
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Congress members have some weird living arrangements. Some will go and rent a large house and share it with 3 or 4 others. To keep costs down. They're only there for part of the year anyway. Other like Joe Manchin rented/leased a yacht in one of the marinas. Don't think it ever left the dock the whole time he was there.
Then there's former Speaker McCarthy's living arrangements with his "friend."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (Q4IgG)
When Pete Hoekstra was my rep he slept in his office when he was in DC.
Then there's former Speaker McCarthy's living arrangements with his "friend."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (Q4IgG)
When Pete Hoekstra was my rep he slept in his office when he was in DC.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:31 PM (MGB5H)
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He is actually just defrauding Californians
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (tYXcB)
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If you listened to her testimony, it wasn't clear whether she was a defense or prosecution witness. Some of the things she testified to were damning for the prosecution. She was either really dumb or secretly had it in for Trayvon. Maybe both.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (iFTx/)
I watched the whole Trayvon Martin trial on YouTube. I think it's safe to say that the girl had an IQ in the low 80's at best.
She clearly knew she had lines she was supposed to know, she just wasnt smart enough to apply those lines to the questions asked. To either side, frankly. And when she got frustrated, she'd let out bits and pieces of the truth.
I think she was just wayyyy to stupid to be a coached witness in a trial.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (iFTx/)
I watched the whole Trayvon Martin trial on YouTube. I think it's safe to say that the girl had an IQ in the low 80's at best.
She clearly knew she had lines she was supposed to know, she just wasnt smart enough to apply those lines to the questions asked. To either side, frankly. And when she got frustrated, she'd let out bits and pieces of the truth.
I think she was just wayyyy to stupid to be a coached witness in a trial.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (uCjyK)
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With Adams & Cuomo BOTH in the race, I submit Mamdani wins. Simple as that.
Behold the beauty of ranked choice voting (RCV), combined with public financing of candidates, i.e., via the matching of small private donations... $8 public dollars for every $1 contributed by small donors.
We've seen this RCV horror movie before in AK. But what NYC has is three times worse.
Behold the beauty of ranked choice voting (RCV), combined with public financing of candidates, i.e., via the matching of small private donations... $8 public dollars for every $1 contributed by small donors.
We've seen this RCV horror movie before in AK. But what NYC has is three times worse.
Posted by: mnw at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (kd60y)
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I agree there isn't a lot here, but Trump should make the claim since Schiff is a POS. Clearly he could go the route of charging that Schiff doesn't actually live in CA per the documents and demand he be removed. At lease make Schiff change his "place of residence".
Posted by: ohmygodno at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (s8WNT)
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118 When Pete Hoekstra was my rep he slept in his office when he was in DC.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:31 PM (MGB5H)
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I propose $45,000 for the purchasing of $100 tents from Costco for all representatives and senators to sleep in on the DC mall when they are in session.
They may bring their own air mattresses.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:31 PM (MGB5H)
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I propose $45,000 for the purchasing of $100 tents from Costco for all representatives and senators to sleep in on the DC mall when they are in session.
They may bring their own air mattresses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)
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I am starting to believe that the Comey and Russiagate stuff is related to Epstein and there is some 4d chess going on. When Hank Johnson (Guam is gonna flip!) is writing "Epstein" songs it is starting to feel like Bre'r Rabbit scenario. Trump says "please don't throw me into that Briar patch!"
Posted by: catman at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (3Kepb)
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I watched the whole Trayvon Martin trial on YouTube. I think it's safe to say that the girl had an IQ in the low 80's at best.
She clearly knew she had lines she was supposed to know, she just wasnt smart enough to apply those lines to the questions asked. To either side, frankly. And when she got frustrated, she'd let out bits and pieces of the truth.
I think she was just wayyyy to stupid to be a coached witness in a trial.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (uCjyK)
Sounds like the Dever chick in the Karen Reade trial. Except she was paid off with a cushy new gig. Granted she's on leave now.
She clearly knew she had lines she was supposed to know, she just wasnt smart enough to apply those lines to the questions asked. To either side, frankly. And when she got frustrated, she'd let out bits and pieces of the truth.
I think she was just wayyyy to stupid to be a coached witness in a trial.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (uCjyK)
Sounds like the Dever chick in the Karen Reade trial. Except she was paid off with a cushy new gig. Granted she's on leave now.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (MGB5H)
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I suppose it depends on how he marked his California house. If both are registered as "primary" you might have a case. You can be a "resident" of one state (DL, voter registration) while spending more than half your time in another state, especially for work.
The Tish James one seems like much more of a real case because she had no reason to list a Virginia home as her primary (she has no job there) and she did other shady stuff like list a property as having four units when it had five to skate on multi-family property mortgage rules, besides listing her dad as her husband, whoopsie, who hasn't made that mistake.
The Tish James one seems like much more of a real case because she had no reason to list a Virginia home as her primary (she has no job there) and she did other shady stuff like list a property as having four units when it had five to skate on multi-family property mortgage rules, besides listing her dad as her husband, whoopsie, who hasn't made that mistake.
Posted by: the dandy at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (8l8nW)
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121 With Adams & Cuomo BOTH in the race, I submit Mamdani wins. Simple as that.
Behold the beauty of ranked choice voting (RCV), combined with public financing of candidates, i.e., via the matching of small private donations... $8 public dollars for every $1 contributed by small donors.
We've seen this RCV horror movie before in AK. But what NYC has is three times worse.
Posted by: mnw at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (kd60y)
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RCV only applies to the primary, by the way.
General election will be regular.
Splitting the Democrat electorate across three major names will be...interesting.
Behold the beauty of ranked choice voting (RCV), combined with public financing of candidates, i.e., via the matching of small private donations... $8 public dollars for every $1 contributed by small donors.
We've seen this RCV horror movie before in AK. But what NYC has is three times worse.
Posted by: mnw at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (kd60y)
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RCV only applies to the primary, by the way.
General election will be regular.
Splitting the Democrat electorate across three major names will be...interesting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)
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The only way this sort of Lawfare stops is when the other side gets a big dose of it
I’d prefer both sides, not engage in it, but the Democrats crossed the Rubicon first when they try to put Trump in prison over a tax write off and storing documents.
I’d prefer both sides, not engage in it, but the Democrats crossed the Rubicon first when they try to put Trump in prison over a tax write off and storing documents.
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (mjCXl)
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Schiff is a bug-eyed freak with the face of a pervert. He deserves as much pain as possible.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (kTd/k)
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The ARNP I support was just gushing about her recent book club choice.
“Lovely One”. The autobiography of Ketanji Brown Jackson. I couldn’t help myself and laughed, guffawed actually, in her face.
“Lovely One”. The autobiography of Ketanji Brown Jackson. I couldn’t help myself and laughed, guffawed actually, in her face.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (W2Pud)
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Adam Schiff has a very punchable face.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (SRRAx)
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At lease make Schiff change his "place of residence".
Posted by: ohmygodno
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Yes, and let him enjoy the California-sized mortgages the rest of us Golden Staters are blessed with.
At lease make Schiff change his "place of residence".
Posted by: ohmygodno
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Yes, and let him enjoy the California-sized mortgages the rest of us Golden Staters are blessed with.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (xp7+v)
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Mortgage fraud, tax fraud, stock trading fraud, immigration fraud, election fraud, campaign fraud, . . .
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM
There's uh, fraud-kabobs, fraud creole, fraud gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple fraud, lemon fraud, coconut fraud, pepper fraud, fraud soup, fraud stew, fraud salad, fraud and potatoes, fraud burger, fraud sandwich...
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM
There's uh, fraud-kabobs, fraud creole, fraud gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple fraud, lemon fraud, coconut fraud, pepper fraud, fraud soup, fraud stew, fraud salad, fraud and potatoes, fraud burger, fraud sandwich...
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (jc0TO)
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A lot of these politicians are just repeating phrases because it brings in donations.
Every time Padilla says "Trump", "Deport", "ICE", etc., he starts getting donations running out his nose like a slot a machine that never loses.
"Trump is bad."
*ring ring ring ring*
"Trump wants to deport me."
*ring ring ring ring*
Those old suckers who used to give their life savings to TV preachers in the 80s & 90s are now loony lefties sending out money to Dems every time they mention the Antichrist Trump on their screens.
Every time Padilla says "Trump", "Deport", "ICE", etc., he starts getting donations running out his nose like a slot a machine that never loses.
"Trump is bad."
*ring ring ring ring*
"Trump wants to deport me."
*ring ring ring ring*
Those old suckers who used to give their life savings to TV preachers in the 80s & 90s are now loony lefties sending out money to Dems every time they mention the Antichrist Trump on their screens.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (6ydKt)
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I propose $45,000 for the purchasing of $100 tents from Costco for all representatives and senators to sleep in on the DC mall when they are in session.
They may bring their own air mattresses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)
FEMA shelters, just raze a couple of blocks in Alexandria, put up wire and a guard tower, and let them commute via Uber
They may bring their own air mattresses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)
FEMA shelters, just raze a couple of blocks in Alexandria, put up wire and a guard tower, and let them commute via Uber
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (D7oie)
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re 118 etc: i think i read that schumer had one of those shared apts. i wonder where schiff's kids go to school. that would say primary residence for me
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (CWTWj)
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I watched the whole Trayvon Martin trial on YouTube. I think it's safe to say that the girl had an IQ in the low 80's at best.
She clearly knew she had lines she was supposed to know, she just wasnt smart enough to apply those lines to the questions asked. To either side, frankly. And when she got frustrated, she'd let out bits and pieces of the truth.
I think she was just wayyyy to stupid to be a coached witness in a trial.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (uCjyK)
Wait, are we talking about Angela Corey or the "thass real retarded sir" girl?
She clearly knew she had lines she was supposed to know, she just wasnt smart enough to apply those lines to the questions asked. To either side, frankly. And when she got frustrated, she'd let out bits and pieces of the truth.
I think she was just wayyyy to stupid to be a coached witness in a trial.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (uCjyK)
Wait, are we talking about Angela Corey or the "thass real retarded sir" girl?
Posted by: There's some overlap at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (TbWk/)
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All members of Congress, Senators as well as Reps, should live in barracks on Fort Meyer, and be bussed to and from the Capitol each day.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:35 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 15, 2025 01:35 PM (ufFY8)
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Illegal pot farms maintained by illegal aliens in California is cray-cray. The "Golden" State sure has certainly decayed since the days of Governor Ronald Reagan.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:35 PM (rj6Yv)
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I propose $45,000 for the purchasing of $100 tents from Costco for all representatives and senators to sleep in on the DC mall when they are in session.
They may bring their own air mattresses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)
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The way DC spends money, they'd introduce a bill for $45K per Congress critter, then siphon off $44,900 for themselves and then spend $100 for the tent.
You know they will not settle for anything less than "glamping" on the Mall.
They may bring their own air mattresses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)
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The way DC spends money, they'd introduce a bill for $45K per Congress critter, then siphon off $44,900 for themselves and then spend $100 for the tent.
You know they will not settle for anything less than "glamping" on the Mall.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2025 01:35 PM (7fElN)
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She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
Ace was live blogging her court case and it was hilarious!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (6PCLE)
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She kept blurting out things that Trayvon supposedly told her on the phone that showed beyond doubt he was violent and likely to kill Zimmerman. "I gonna go kill dat cracker motherfucker!" No, that's not a direct quote, but it's close.
The reality is she had no idea what Trayvon said. It wasn't her on the phone with him. It was that other girl. That's what the "girlfriend substitution" was all about. So she was basically making up shit that was very damning for the prosecution. Very curious, that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
Ace was live blogging her court case and it was hilarious!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 01:30 PM (6PCLE)
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She kept blurting out things that Trayvon supposedly told her on the phone that showed beyond doubt he was violent and likely to kill Zimmerman. "I gonna go kill dat cracker motherfucker!" No, that's not a direct quote, but it's close.
The reality is she had no idea what Trayvon said. It wasn't her on the phone with him. It was that other girl. That's what the "girlfriend substitution" was all about. So she was basically making up shit that was very damning for the prosecution. Very curious, that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Splitting the Democrat electorate across three major names will be...interesting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)
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This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)
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This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
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I'm imagining a lot of senators right now are rethinking their own choices of where to list their permanent residences.
Probably a lot of them do it.
And a fair number of congress-critters, especially those who've been around longer than Methuselah, are doing the same thing.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (6ydKt)
SOP for Donks in Lost Angeles. About 20 years ago, there was a minor kerfuffle instigated by the LA Times when they pointed out that the County Board of Supervisors all lived in different parts of town (as I recall, Brentwood was the favorite). Plus, they'd get around term limits by renting apartments in their districts, only to let their lease expire and rent in another district (and run for office in that district) when their term was up. Like they were all playing Musical Chairs.
I'm imagining a lot of senators right now are rethinking their own choices of where to list their permanent residences.
Probably a lot of them do it.
And a fair number of congress-critters, especially those who've been around longer than Methuselah, are doing the same thing.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (6ydKt)
SOP for Donks in Lost Angeles. About 20 years ago, there was a minor kerfuffle instigated by the LA Times when they pointed out that the County Board of Supervisors all lived in different parts of town (as I recall, Brentwood was the favorite). Plus, they'd get around term limits by renting apartments in their districts, only to let their lease expire and rent in another district (and run for office in that district) when their term was up. Like they were all playing Musical Chairs.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (y9nCu)
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143 Splitting the Democrat electorate across three major names will be...interesting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)
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This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
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If forced to make a prediction, I'd say that Adams keeps his position.
I have no confidence in it, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)
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This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
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If forced to make a prediction, I'd say that Adams keeps his position.
I have no confidence in it, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, there’s egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and Fraud; egg bacon and Fraud; egg bacon sausage and Fraud; Fraud bacon sausage and Fraud; Fraud egg Fraud Fraud bacon and Fraud; Fraud sausage Fraud Fraud bacon Fraud tomato and Fraud;
Vikings: (starting to chant) Fraud Fraud Fraud Fraud…
Waitress: …Fraud Fraud Fraud egg and Fraud; Fraud Fraud Fraud Fraud Fraud Fraud baked beans Fraud Fraud Fraud…
Vikings: (singing) Fraud! Lovely Fraud! Lovely Fraud!
Waitress: …or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and Fraud.
Vikings: (starting to chant) Fraud Fraud Fraud Fraud…
Waitress: …Fraud Fraud Fraud egg and Fraud; Fraud Fraud Fraud Fraud Fraud Fraud baked beans Fraud Fraud Fraud…
Vikings: (singing) Fraud! Lovely Fraud! Lovely Fraud!
Waitress: …or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and Fraud.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (PzXaK)
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This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
Mamdani 40%
Adams 30%
Cuomo 20%
Sliwa 10%
This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
Mamdani 40%
Adams 30%
Cuomo 20%
Sliwa 10%
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (uWKK8)
148
I'd rather Trump go after Sandy Cortez for calling him a rapist, because I think she has a likely shot to be the next VP candidate and I would hate to see that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (2GCMq)
149
136 re 118 etc: i think i read that schumer had one of those shared apts. i wonder where schiff's kids go to school. that would say primary residence for me
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (CWTWj)
You can have different primary residences for different purposes. Especially in an odd job like being a Congressman.
I assume he is registered to vote in CA. I assume his drivers license is issued by CA.
But he very likely does spend more than half the year in the DC area, and he earns his money in DC. So for a mortgage purposes, that may be his primary residence.
So for voting purposes, he's a resident of CA, for tax purposes, he's probably a primary resident of MD or whatever.
Although, again, I don't know if there are special rules for Congressmen (do they pay taxes on their income in their home district?), and different states handle taxes, residency, long arm statutes, etc. differently. NY, famously, taxes professional athletes on any income they earn in NY. So you play against the Knicks, x% of your salary is owed to NYS in taxes.
Anyways, point is, nothing will happen to him and I've wasted enough mental energy on this.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (CWTWj)
You can have different primary residences for different purposes. Especially in an odd job like being a Congressman.
I assume he is registered to vote in CA. I assume his drivers license is issued by CA.
But he very likely does spend more than half the year in the DC area, and he earns his money in DC. So for a mortgage purposes, that may be his primary residence.
So for voting purposes, he's a resident of CA, for tax purposes, he's probably a primary resident of MD or whatever.
Although, again, I don't know if there are special rules for Congressmen (do they pay taxes on their income in their home district?), and different states handle taxes, residency, long arm statutes, etc. differently. NY, famously, taxes professional athletes on any income they earn in NY. So you play against the Knicks, x% of your salary is owed to NYS in taxes.
Anyways, point is, nothing will happen to him and I've wasted enough mental energy on this.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (uCjyK)
150
147
This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
Mamdani 40%
Adams 30%
Cuomo 20%
Sliwa 10%
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (uWKK
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How many people who put Cuomo first on their RCV ballot will just vote for him in the general?
This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
Mamdani 40%
Adams 30%
Cuomo 20%
Sliwa 10%
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (uWKK
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How many people who put Cuomo first on their RCV ballot will just vote for him in the general?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)
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The New York City subway system flooded during intense storms yesterday and the videos terrify me
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (CGT3R)
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When I was working there and that happened (happens once every couple years) I ended up having to hike down from midtown to the financial district because there were no available taxis. That's quite a hike in a suit with temps pushing 90. I ended up making a side trip to The Men's Warehouse to buy a cheap suit and shirt that wasn't soaked in sweat. Pulled a "Reacher" wearing the new stuff right out of the store.
Bonus: Rats running everywhere because they were flooded out of their homes underground.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (CGT3R)
_______________________
When I was working there and that happened (happens once every couple years) I ended up having to hike down from midtown to the financial district because there were no available taxis. That's quite a hike in a suit with temps pushing 90. I ended up making a side trip to The Men's Warehouse to buy a cheap suit and shirt that wasn't soaked in sweat. Pulled a "Reacher" wearing the new stuff right out of the store.
Bonus: Rats running everywhere because they were flooded out of their homes underground.
Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 01:39 PM (dIske)
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45 This is Trump's reminder that "You guys played footsy with the law to come after me--payback's a bitch."
Its inexcusable how *cheap* this makes Schiff look. He's a publicly elected official from the state of California, and rather than acknowledging that and paying the extra 1-2% in APR for a "2nd home" purchase he checked the "primary residence" box. Its not only "fraud" because its a blatant misrepresentation, its chintzy as hell. The cool kids should laugh and point...but they won't, because the cool kids in DC are crooks too.
Posted by: Crusader
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The wealthy, especially inherited wealth, in general are incredibly cheap where they can get away with it.
Remember Leona Helmsley's statement that taxes are for little people before she was convicted of tax evasion.
Its inexcusable how *cheap* this makes Schiff look. He's a publicly elected official from the state of California, and rather than acknowledging that and paying the extra 1-2% in APR for a "2nd home" purchase he checked the "primary residence" box. Its not only "fraud" because its a blatant misrepresentation, its chintzy as hell. The cool kids should laugh and point...but they won't, because the cool kids in DC are crooks too.
Posted by: Crusader
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The wealthy, especially inherited wealth, in general are incredibly cheap where they can get away with it.
Remember Leona Helmsley's statement that taxes are for little people before she was convicted of tax evasion.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:40 PM (ctrM5)
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Has it been 40 mins yet?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (9yZF5)
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The process is worse than the crime. It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not, he'll spend a small fortune on lawyers and PR firms. He'll also have to expend political power to explain himself to the public.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (g8Ew8)
155
There will come a day when New Yorkers will think rat is fine eating.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (jc0TO)
156
This may have already been put out here, but:
🚨NEW: Alan Dershowitz says it's *NOT* Trump Admin that's hiding Epstein info — it's judges🚨
"Many of the things that are being suppressed are being suppressed by two judges in Manhattan."
"The judges have issued orders — which is why I can't disclose things I'd love to disclose"
🚨NEW: Alan Dershowitz says it's *NOT* Trump Admin that's hiding Epstein info — it's judges🚨
"Many of the things that are being suppressed are being suppressed by two judges in Manhattan."
"The judges have issued orders — which is why I can't disclose things I'd love to disclose"
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (fCgdX)
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Speaking of California, I found a guy. Weirdly, he's not taking donations. You hit the donation button and get this popup:
Politicians take enough of your money. Invest in your family, yourself, and your community.
I used to live in his district and maybe I can see why he's not wasting anyone's money on a run, but declining donations seems like an overly bold strategy, Cotton.
www.dicklucas.com
Speaking of California, I found a guy. Weirdly, he's not taking donations. You hit the donation button and get this popup:
Politicians take enough of your money. Invest in your family, yourself, and your community.
I used to live in his district and maybe I can see why he's not wasting anyone's money on a run, but declining donations seems like an overly bold strategy, Cotton.
www.dicklucas.com
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (xp7+v)
158
Normally I'd say let it go...but Schiff. Fuck that guy in particular.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (D1vbu)
Trump let a lot of things go the first time and for his trouble they tried to kill and ruin him and his family. They rifled his wife's drawers.
Mess with me that's one thing. Mess with my wife and trust me you have signed and sealed your own condemnation.
LET NOTHING GO
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (D1vbu)
Trump let a lot of things go the first time and for his trouble they tried to kill and ruin him and his family. They rifled his wife's drawers.
Mess with me that's one thing. Mess with my wife and trust me you have signed and sealed your own condemnation.
LET NOTHING GO
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (Qr870)
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Dersh, cont: "I don't know of any information that they could disclose that they haven’t disclosed. Now, maybe there is some. I’m simply not aware of it. And so I think it’s important to place the blame where the blame deserves to be placed."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (fCgdX)
160
There's pineapple fraud, lemon fraud, coconut fraud, pepper fraud, fraud soup, fraud stew, fraud salad, fraud and potatoes, fraud burger, fraud sandwich...
Posted by: toby928
You're gonna make General one day, Private Toby~!
Posted by: toby928
You're gonna make General one day, Private Toby~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (mlg/3)
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Mamdani 40%
Adams 30%
Cuomo 20%
Sliwa 10%
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (uWKK
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How many people who put Cuomo first on their RCV ballot will just vote for him in the general?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)
I think Cuomo should (and probably will) bow out at some point, and Adams will get the nod.
We'll see though.
Cuomo annoys me less than Adams, but Adams makes me laugh sometimes. So I'm on the fence.
Adams 30%
Cuomo 20%
Sliwa 10%
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (uWKK
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How many people who put Cuomo first on their RCV ballot will just vote for him in the general?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)
I think Cuomo should (and probably will) bow out at some point, and Adams will get the nod.
We'll see though.
Cuomo annoys me less than Adams, but Adams makes me laugh sometimes. So I'm on the fence.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (NpAcC)
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92 86 Yeah, the first season of DS9 actually kind of sucks on rewatch. It gets much better as time goes on, which is not usually how shows work.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (uCjyK)
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It's how most of Star Trek works, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)
The first two seasons of NG are pretty bad compared to the rest of the show.
They didn't start getting into a groove until well into season 3.
It was a fine tuned machine after that.
The first season of DS9 is wonderful in comparison.
The first episode is still a really good two-parter that had a lot of complexity in it for a sci-fi pilot.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (uCjyK)
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It's how most of Star Trek works, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)
The first two seasons of NG are pretty bad compared to the rest of the show.
They didn't start getting into a groove until well into season 3.
It was a fine tuned machine after that.
The first season of DS9 is wonderful in comparison.
The first episode is still a really good two-parter that had a lot of complexity in it for a sci-fi pilot.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (6ydKt)
164
Trump is retaliating against Madmani!
The New York City subway system flooded during intense storms yesterday and the videos terrify me
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (CGT3R)
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I was on the top floor of my apartment overlooking the roof deck last night during the storm. Cigar and scotch in hand (actually bourbon this time). A bolt of lightning exploded literally over my head. It was so close the thunder cracked simultaneously. The flash was blinding and the thunder shook the windows. That was probably the closest I've ever been to lightning. Upper west side in manhattan.
The New York City subway system flooded during intense storms yesterday and the videos terrify me
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:27 PM (CGT3R)
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I was on the top floor of my apartment overlooking the roof deck last night during the storm. Cigar and scotch in hand (actually bourbon this time). A bolt of lightning exploded literally over my head. It was so close the thunder cracked simultaneously. The flash was blinding and the thunder shook the windows. That was probably the closest I've ever been to lightning. Upper west side in manhattan.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (iFTx/)
165
Dick Lucas? Mr. Lucas on Are You Being Served?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (77rzZ)
166
Trump let a lot of things go the first time and for his trouble they tried to kill and ruin him and his family. They rifled his wife's drawers.
Mess with me that's one thing. Mess with my wife and trust me you have signed and sealed your own condemnation.
LET NOTHING GO
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (Qr870)
All of that happened during Startled Grandpa's watch.
Mess with me that's one thing. Mess with my wife and trust me you have signed and sealed your own condemnation.
LET NOTHING GO
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (Qr870)
All of that happened during Startled Grandpa's watch.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (rj6Yv)
167
Beedy beedy beedy. Ed buck.
Posted by: Twiggy at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (lPvx2)
168
161 I think Cuomo should (and probably will) bow out at some point, and Adams will get the nod.
We'll see though.
Cuomo annoys me less than Adams, but Adams makes me laugh sometimes. So I'm on the fence.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (uCjyK)
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I just kind of expect that softer Democrat voters and most blacks will turn out for either Cuomo or Adams rather than Mamdani. I also imagine that there will be a population of Republicans who will see voting for Sliwa as throwing their vote away, so that...100,000 votes will split between Cuomo and Adams as well.
Or I could be wrong. I dunno.
We'll see though.
Cuomo annoys me less than Adams, but Adams makes me laugh sometimes. So I'm on the fence.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (uCjyK)
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I just kind of expect that softer Democrat voters and most blacks will turn out for either Cuomo or Adams rather than Mamdani. I also imagine that there will be a population of Republicans who will see voting for Sliwa as throwing their vote away, so that...100,000 votes will split between Cuomo and Adams as well.
Or I could be wrong. I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)
169
It is my understanding that Adam Schiff likes young boys, the meme I've seen is of him standing next to a white van with a "Free Puppies" magnetic sign on the side of it. He is also allegedly one of the main beneficiaries of the Congressional Sex scandal Slush fund.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (Da7Vv)
170
/off yuuuge beautiful sock.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (tT6L1)
171
Andrew robinson who started out as the psycho in dirty harry
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (bXbFr)
172
> This doesn't seem like a big story but it's a slow news day.
I believe that this story is critically important.
The entire field of "political science" is invalid once you realize that there are only two kinds of government: One strives to make the law apply equally to everyone; the other bucket is a shit pot holding every other kind.
Making distinctions among the wrong kinds is effectively debating the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. A circle jerk would be more productive.
I believe that this story is critically important.
The entire field of "political science" is invalid once you realize that there are only two kinds of government: One strives to make the law apply equally to everyone; the other bucket is a shit pot holding every other kind.
Making distinctions among the wrong kinds is effectively debating the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. A circle jerk would be more productive.
Posted by: biteme at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (acVg5)
173
That was probably the closest I've ever been to lightning.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Maybe Someone is trying to tell you something.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Maybe Someone is trying to tell you something.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (77rzZ)
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163 The first two seasons of NG are pretty bad compared to the rest of the show.
They didn't start getting into a groove until well into season 3.
It was a fine tuned machine after that.
The first season of DS9 is wonderful in comparison.
The first episode is still a really good two-parter that had a lot of complexity in it for a sci-fi pilot.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (6ydKt)
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Voyager got a lot better after Season 3, too.
Jeri Taylor leaving the show was the best part of that entire run.
They didn't start getting into a groove until well into season 3.
It was a fine tuned machine after that.
The first season of DS9 is wonderful in comparison.
The first episode is still a really good two-parter that had a lot of complexity in it for a sci-fi pilot.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:42 PM (6ydKt)
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Voyager got a lot better after Season 3, too.
Jeri Taylor leaving the show was the best part of that entire run.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
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The flash was blinding and the thunder shook the windows. That was probably the closest I've ever been to lightning. Upper west side in manhattan.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (iFTx/)
Thor is a merciful God, but not to be trifled with.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (iFTx/)
Thor is a merciful God, but not to be trifled with.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (uCjyK)
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"... the right to counsel ..."
and guess where that's from:
https://tinyurl.com/2uukp4db
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (CWTWj)
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Didn't these power-hungry jackasses raid Trump's lawyer's office?
and guess where that's from:
https://tinyurl.com/2uukp4db
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (CWTWj)
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Didn't these power-hungry jackasses raid Trump's lawyer's office?
Posted by: Another Anon at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (4h45B)
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Fine. My thesis: Garak was one of the best written and most robust and realistic characters in the entirety of Star Trek.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
I agree with you completely on that! "In the Pale Moonlight", where Garak tricks Sisco into letting go of his morality, but then says "I only did it because I knew you wanted me to do it." And Sisco must agree, Garak is right.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
I agree with you completely on that! "In the Pale Moonlight", where Garak tricks Sisco into letting go of his morality, but then says "I only did it because I knew you wanted me to do it." And Sisco must agree, Garak is right.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (uWKK8)
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I bet the calculation is that the Dem voters will go for Cuomo once they see what Madnanny is actually offering.
that is a plan .. but the fault lies in how unlikeable Cuomo is, and how unlikely the young/former and current college student-ish population is to vote for him
I mean, if that's the thought, it's a wrong thought
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (Pv3Rg)
If they were gonna vote for Cuomo at all, you'd think the Primary was the perfect place to do it. Yet they voted in the commie.
However perhaps the vote fraud settings will be turned up for him one last time if they can swing it.
that is a plan .. but the fault lies in how unlikeable Cuomo is, and how unlikely the young/former and current college student-ish population is to vote for him
I mean, if that's the thought, it's a wrong thought
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (Pv3Rg)
If they were gonna vote for Cuomo at all, you'd think the Primary was the perfect place to do it. Yet they voted in the commie.
However perhaps the vote fraud settings will be turned up for him one last time if they can swing it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (8avO+)
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🚨NEW: Alan Dershowitz says it's *NOT* Trump Admin that's hiding Epstein info — it's judges🚨
"Many of the things that are being suppressed are being suppressed by two judges in Manhattan."
"The judges have issued orders — which is why I can't disclose things I'd love to disclose"
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (fCgdX)
Sounds about right.
"Many of the things that are being suppressed are being suppressed by two judges in Manhattan."
"The judges have issued orders — which is why I can't disclose things I'd love to disclose"
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (fCgdX)
Sounds about right.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (g8Ew8)
180
It had a casablanca open city type atmosphere even though the cardassian war was over
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (bXbFr)
181
Is Jerome Powell leaving?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (cn0nj)
182
That was probably the closest I've ever been to lightning.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Maybe Someone is trying to tell you something.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (77rzZ)
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That I'm on the right track? Sounds good!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Maybe Someone is trying to tell you something.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (77rzZ)
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That I'm on the right track? Sounds good!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)
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181 Is Jerome Powell leaving?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (cn0nj)
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Rumors!
For about two weeks.
Rumors!
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (cn0nj)
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Rumors!
For about two weeks.
Rumors!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)
184
Lightening once hit a tree about 20 ft away from the car my family was in. Underwear needed changing.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (9yZF5)
Posted by: That Guy Who Likes That One Seinfeld Reference at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (TN0g+)
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I just kind of expect that softer Democrat voters and most blacks will turn out for either Cuomo or Adams rather than Mamdani. I also imagine that there will be a population of Republicans who will see voting for Sliwa as throwing their vote away, so that...100,000 votes will split between Cuomo and Adams as well.
Or I could be wrong. I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)
Record-low turnout is what I'm thinking.
Or I could be wrong. I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)
Record-low turnout is what I'm thinking.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (rj6Yv)
187
If the major Dems stay in they will split the vote enough for the machine to cheat Madmani in. That looks like the plan from where I'm sitting.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (Qr870)
188
Avery brooks was a much better captain than picard
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (bXbFr)
189
This is probably Sliwa’s best chance.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
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If forced to make a prediction, I'd say that Adams keeps his position.
I have no confidence in it, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Too soon. In a race with three or four contestants, plurality where the majority votes against the winner is likely. Turnout will be key.
The Mad Swami voters will vote (upper SES, white, etc. plus gimmedats), whether or not Cuomo or Adams can coalesce and turnout out a probably majority coalition of minorities, working class, GOP voters, business owners, etc. is a question.
Sliwa is what I call a beautiful loser type candidate that will attract just enough of the none of the above voters to perhaps tip the race toward Mad Swami if the race is low turnout.
For Cuomo or Adams to win, one of them has to end up in Sliwa territory or drop out.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:36 PM (u73oe)
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If forced to make a prediction, I'd say that Adams keeps his position.
I have no confidence in it, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Too soon. In a race with three or four contestants, plurality where the majority votes against the winner is likely. Turnout will be key.
The Mad Swami voters will vote (upper SES, white, etc. plus gimmedats), whether or not Cuomo or Adams can coalesce and turnout out a probably majority coalition of minorities, working class, GOP voters, business owners, etc. is a question.
Sliwa is what I call a beautiful loser type candidate that will attract just enough of the none of the above voters to perhaps tip the race toward Mad Swami if the race is low turnout.
For Cuomo or Adams to win, one of them has to end up in Sliwa territory or drop out.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (ctrM5)
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The flash was blinding and the thunder shook the windows. That was probably the closest I've ever been to lightning. Upper west side in manhattan.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (iFTx/)
Thor is a merciful God, but not to be trifled with.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (uCjyK)
I've had lightning strike 4 times in the back yard I was in. It wasn't my backyard but they let us in from the storm.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (iFTx/)
Thor is a merciful God, but not to be trifled with.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (uCjyK)
I've had lightning strike 4 times in the back yard I was in. It wasn't my backyard but they let us in from the storm.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 15, 2025 01:47 PM (8avO+)
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26 As long as fucktards like Schiff get harassed to no end, I'm good. Press it. Make him dig into funds he'd rather spend on his other proclivities.
That's why those unaccompanied minors are here to do the jobs cheaply that American minors won't do.
That's why those unaccompanied minors are here to do the jobs cheaply that American minors won't do.
Posted by: Nelly at July 15, 2025 01:47 PM (cHLus)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2025 01:47 PM (ufFY8)
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Or when she said Trayvon told her he was going to go confront some "creppy ass n*gga" (IIRC the words correctly) who was following him, but then said that words do not denote sexuality or race.
She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
It was "creepy ass cracker".
I only remember specifically because there was a debate at the time as to whether she meant 'creepy white guy', or 'creepy homosexual rapist', as "ass cracker" was slang for gay guys.
She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
It was "creepy ass cracker".
I only remember specifically because there was a debate at the time as to whether she meant 'creepy white guy', or 'creepy homosexual rapist', as "ass cracker" was slang for gay guys.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:48 PM (6ydKt)
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Anything that hurts that coprophagous worm Schiff is newsworthy to me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 01:48 PM (xcxpd)
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Or I could be wrong. I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)
My read? Cuomo has a much better network / establishment / corruption system behind him.
Adams made a lot of enemies in Brooklyn when he was borough president (basically giving the graft to his people, and taking it away from others). That might cost him the Republican Jewish vote, they'll likely stick with Silwa. Plus, of course, running his mouth about the migrant stuff that got him indicted didn't make him a lot of friends in Dem circles in NYC.
BUT I think most actual voters are sick of the Cuomo dynasty.
So, to game theory this out: Cuomo should drop out and throw his full endorsement and corruption machine behind Adams. But Cuomo likely knows everything I've just said plus a lot more, and knows that on paper he's the stronger candidate and he will actually be able to, you know, govern a bit. Unlike Adams.
Or I could be wrong. I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)
My read? Cuomo has a much better network / establishment / corruption system behind him.
Adams made a lot of enemies in Brooklyn when he was borough president (basically giving the graft to his people, and taking it away from others). That might cost him the Republican Jewish vote, they'll likely stick with Silwa. Plus, of course, running his mouth about the migrant stuff that got him indicted didn't make him a lot of friends in Dem circles in NYC.
BUT I think most actual voters are sick of the Cuomo dynasty.
So, to game theory this out: Cuomo should drop out and throw his full endorsement and corruption machine behind Adams. But Cuomo likely knows everything I've just said plus a lot more, and knows that on paper he's the stronger candidate and he will actually be able to, you know, govern a bit. Unlike Adams.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:49 PM (uCjyK)
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If we charge him with a felony charge for every second he maintained his lie, it would be 347 million felony counts.
I think its pretty reasonable to follow the Letitia James protocol here.
I think its pretty reasonable to follow the Letitia James protocol here.
Posted by: cobacoba98 at July 15, 2025 01:49 PM (IuIym)
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I despise Schiff, and am certain he is crooked as an epileptic snake, but lets have fewer statements and more handcuffs, huh?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 01:49 PM (dfIr7)
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Avery brooks was a much better captain than picard
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Avery Brooks was great in Spencer for Hire (he played "Hawk").
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Avery Brooks was great in Spencer for Hire (he played "Hawk").
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 01:49 PM (TN0g+)
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Jonas Grumby was a better Captain than Picard.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 01:49 PM (vFG9F)
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It was "creepy ass cracker".
I only remember specifically because there was a debate at the time as to whether she meant 'creepy white guy', or 'creepy homosexual rapist', as "ass cracker" was slang for gay guys.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:48 PM (6ydKt)
You are right. I knew it was something racial.
I only remember specifically because there was a debate at the time as to whether she meant 'creepy white guy', or 'creepy homosexual rapist', as "ass cracker" was slang for gay guys.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:48 PM (6ydKt)
You are right. I knew it was something racial.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:50 PM (uCjyK)
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Anything that hurts that coprophagous worm Schiff is newsworthy to me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
I like Elric's "dracunculus" from an earlier thread.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
I like Elric's "dracunculus" from an earlier thread.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)
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Brooks is a freaky poem-spouting space cadet in real life but he plays dangerous tough guy really well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 01:50 PM (dfIr7)
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Jonas Grumby was a better Captain than Picard.
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Captain Pike was better than Captain Picard.
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Captain Pike was better than Captain Picard.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 01:50 PM (TN0g+)
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Trump was just asked question about Epstein and he said he has full confidence in Pam Bondi that he had a very quick briefing in the terms of the credibility of what they have seen as it was handled by Comey, Obama and the Biden administration so he was not sure about the credibility of the files and would leave it up to her.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (NpAcC)
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Had lighting hit a transformer just as I drove past it, like a 10000 watt light lit up my mirrors. Actually wasn't scared, rolled down window and yelled
You missed!
You missed!
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (+qU29)
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ace might have a story !
MSN : "Jerome Powell agrees to resign as Fed Chair after sustained pressure"...
MSN : "Jerome Powell agrees to resign as Fed Chair after sustained pressure"...
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (g47mK)
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Is Jerome Powell leaving?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (cn0nj)
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Rumors!
For about two weeks.
Rumors!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)
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Ironically -- or maybe not so at all -- if he does get pushed out, it won't be because of his blatant political corruption and attempted sabotage of Trump's economy. It will be because of his actual pecuniary corruption in lying about the budgets and renovations to the Fed offices.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:45 PM (cn0nj)
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Rumors!
For about two weeks.
Rumors!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)
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Ironically -- or maybe not so at all -- if he does get pushed out, it won't be because of his blatant political corruption and attempted sabotage of Trump's economy. It will be because of his actual pecuniary corruption in lying about the budgets and renovations to the Fed offices.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)
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195 So, to game theory this out: Cuomo should drop out and throw his full endorsement and corruption machine behind Adams. But Cuomo likely knows everything I've just said plus a lot more, and knows that on paper he's the stronger candidate and he will actually be able to, you know, govern a bit. Unlike Adams.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:49 PM (uCjyK)
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I'm just shitposting from a few hundred miles away from the city, so I bow to your better knowledge of the intricacies of NY governance.
So, Cuomo may squeak one out instead of Adams.
Perhaps I overestimate the power of incumbency in this instance.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:49 PM (uCjyK)
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I'm just shitposting from a few hundred miles away from the city, so I bow to your better knowledge of the intricacies of NY governance.
So, Cuomo may squeak one out instead of Adams.
Perhaps I overestimate the power of incumbency in this instance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)
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Engage Chewie.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (cn0nj)
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'd rather Trump go after Sandy Cortez for calling him a rapist, because I think she has a likely shot to be the next VP candidate and I would hate to see that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (2GCMq)
She will only be the veep if Stalin is the head of the ticket. Otherwise she has the issue she can't shut up and follow anyone's lead.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 01:38 PM (2GCMq)
She will only be the veep if Stalin is the head of the ticket. Otherwise she has the issue she can't shut up and follow anyone's lead.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (8avO+)
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There will come a day when New Yorkers will think rat is fine eating.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (jc0TO)
Sounds icky, but a ratburger is surprisingly tasty.
There will come a day when New Yorkers will think rat is fine eating.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (jc0TO)
Sounds icky, but a ratburger is surprisingly tasty.
Posted by: John Spartan at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (y9nCu)
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The time travel one was one of the few that had pointed social commentary
They asked brooks how did he play sisco he replied as a man
They asked brooks how did he play sisco he replied as a man
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (9yZF5)
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Pretty easy to show that state someone is a resident of.
Who issued you a license? Where are your cars registered? Where do you pay state income tax?
My guess would be for Schiff all of these are California.
So stating he is a resident of Maryland is fraud.
Who issued you a license? Where are your cars registered? Where do you pay state income tax?
My guess would be for Schiff all of these are California.
So stating he is a resident of Maryland is fraud.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (ImXfC)
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Anything that hurts that coprophagous worm Schiff is newsworthy to me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
I like Elric's "dracunculus" from an earlier thread.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)
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Dracunculus is the scientific name for the loathsome guinea worm. I thought it appropriate.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
I like Elric's "dracunculus" from an earlier thread.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)
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Dracunculus is the scientific name for the loathsome guinea worm. I thought it appropriate.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (iFTx/)
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OK, fine, that was last Friday, and Bessent said that the search for replacement has begun.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (g47mK)
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The Mad Swami voters will vote (upper SES, white, etc. plus gimmedats), whether or not Cuomo or Adams can coalesce and turnout out a probably majority coalition of minorities, working class, GOP voters, business owners, etc. is a question.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (ctrM5)
I think every Upper East Side upper middle class woman I know is voting for Mamdani.
Dude must have run one hell of a Instagram and TikTok campaign. I've never seen the self-proclaimed Brunch girlies so interested in local politics before.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:46 PM (ctrM5)
I think every Upper East Side upper middle class woman I know is voting for Mamdani.
Dude must have run one hell of a Instagram and TikTok campaign. I've never seen the self-proclaimed Brunch girlies so interested in local politics before.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (uCjyK)
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>>> 205 Had lighting hit a transformer just as I drove past it, like a 10000 watt light lit up my mirrors. Actually wasn't scared, rolled down window and yelled
You missed!
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (+qU29)
Not really.
You missed!
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (+qU29)
Not really.
Posted by: zombie squirrel that had been on the transformer at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (ULPxl)
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I like how "Captain Kirk" is reminiscent of "Captain Cook." I'll bet that was intentional.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (77rzZ)
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207 Ironically -- or maybe not so at all -- if he does get pushed out, it won't be because of his blatant political corruption and attempted sabotage of Trump's economy. It will be because of his actual pecuniary corruption in lying about the budgets and renovations to the Fed offices.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)
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Some other fed governor put out a press release cheering on the rumors of Powell's resignation.
Apparently, a majority of the fed wants to cut, but they can't agree on how much or when, so the "remainers", so to speak, are pretty much winning by default.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)
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Some other fed governor put out a press release cheering on the rumors of Powell's resignation.
Apparently, a majority of the fed wants to cut, but they can't agree on how much or when, so the "remainers", so to speak, are pretty much winning by default.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)
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zee markets are depressed
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (g47mK)
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We threw our votes away on Nicole Malliotakis and Joe Lhota, and you think somehow Curtis Sliwa is MORE UNELECTABLE than those two nobodies?
Posted by: NYC Republicans at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (0DnHq)
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So now that NY/NJ is flooding is it because MAGA doesn’t believe in climate change?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM
We need to clap harder.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM
We need to clap harder.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (jc0TO)
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Ha, if Powell resigns, the markets will freak a bit.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (dfIr7)
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Voyager got a lot better after Season 3, too.
Jeri Taylor leaving the show was the best part of that entire run.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
Voyager trivialized the Borg from a significant menace to a simple nuisance.
"Hey, there's a Borg cube coming up!"
"Nah, it'll be fine."
Voyager got a lot better after Season 3, too.
Jeri Taylor leaving the show was the best part of that entire run.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
Voyager trivialized the Borg from a significant menace to a simple nuisance.
"Hey, there's a Borg cube coming up!"
"Nah, it'll be fine."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (PzXaK)
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No one would have guessed at the start of DS9 that Garak and Nog would have the most interesting character arcs.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (nHxWJ)
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The first two seasons of NG are pretty bad compared to the rest of the show.
They didn't start getting into a groove until well into season 3.
It was a fine tuned machine after that.
The "Beverly Crusher has sex with ghosts" episode would like to dispute that.
They didn't start getting into a groove until well into season 3.
It was a fine tuned machine after that.
The "Beverly Crusher has sex with ghosts" episode would like to dispute that.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (2ocoG)
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Nood
Posted by: Jb at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (yBGaa)
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Dude must have run one hell of a Instagram and TikTok campaign. I've never seen the self-proclaimed Brunch girlies so interested in local politics before.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (uCjyK)
He’s so dreamy too.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:52 PM (uCjyK)
He’s so dreamy too.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (ImXfC)
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I'm still studying English as a second language.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (EyfuW)
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Or when she said Trayvon told her he was going to go confront some "creppy ass n*gga" (IIRC the words correctly)
"creepy ass cracker" as in "creepy ass white dude" which they tried to change to "creepy ass-cracker", i.e. Trevon was afraid of being sexually assaulted by a gay white guy.
"creepy ass cracker" as in "creepy ass white dude" which they tried to change to "creepy ass-cracker", i.e. Trevon was afraid of being sexually assaulted by a gay white guy.
Posted by: Chuck C at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (D0HYP)
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Rat farts!
Posted by: The Bishop in Caddyshack at July 15, 2025 01:54 PM (wVcYX)
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zee markets are depressed
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM
I wish. I'm so short I have to reach up to tie my shoes.
Bunch of fucking optimists out there screwing me over.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM
I wish. I'm so short I have to reach up to tie my shoes.
Bunch of fucking optimists out there screwing me over.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (jc0TO)
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Voyager got a lot better after Season 3, too.
Jeri Taylor leaving the show was the best part of that entire run.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
I liked Voyager as a Star Trek show right up until they spent half their time in the Holodeck.
I could take Kess just being written off because at least I had Jeri Ryan to look at. I could take the Doctor becoming more of a main character/Data stand-in, but the episodes in an Irish village nearly killed it for me. The WWI holodeck episodes were better, but still, it's space, not 1943 France.
It's like they completely ran out of ideas, which is probably true - there are only so many aliens and alien planets and alien problems you can solve.
Jeri Taylor leaving the show was the best part of that entire run.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
I liked Voyager as a Star Trek show right up until they spent half their time in the Holodeck.
I could take Kess just being written off because at least I had Jeri Ryan to look at. I could take the Doctor becoming more of a main character/Data stand-in, but the episodes in an Irish village nearly killed it for me. The WWI holodeck episodes were better, but still, it's space, not 1943 France.
It's like they completely ran out of ideas, which is probably true - there are only so many aliens and alien planets and alien problems you can solve.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (6ydKt)
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nood, fed theater
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (uCjyK)
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One of the cats recently hurked up a massive hairball.
A Cat might hork up a furball, or possibly hurl a furball, but never, ever hurk. It just isn’t done.
A Cat might hork up a furball, or possibly hurl a furball, but never, ever hurk. It just isn’t done.
Posted by: Morris, your ever present protocol kitty at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (uywL/)
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Voyager wasted a lot of decent characters. It's later seasons had better stories, but the were also the Holodoc and Jeri Ryan's tuts era.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (nHxWJ)
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Voyager trivialized the Borg from a significant menace to a simple nuisance.
"Hey, there's a Borg cube coming up!"
"Nah, it'll be fine."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (PzXaK)
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True.
But, there were a large amount of solid individual episodes, especially in Season 5.
Voyager trivialized the Borg from a significant menace to a simple nuisance.
"Hey, there's a Borg cube coming up!"
"Nah, it'll be fine."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (PzXaK)
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True.
But, there were a large amount of solid individual episodes, especially in Season 5.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)
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There was thunder and lightning when I saw Diana Ross in Central Park.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (JvZF+)
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>>>Just goes to prove that all Donnas are bad.
They aren't all bad, they're just drawn that way.
Hey, we could do a thread with Donna in the title or lyrics.
I'll go first, and I won't include the song title, you can guess.
Donna, Donna, educate me, tell those girls that I'm not alone...
Hey little Donna, aww ya still wanna?
They aren't all bad, they're just drawn that way.
Hey, we could do a thread with Donna in the title or lyrics.
I'll go first, and I won't include the song title, you can guess.
Donna, Donna, educate me, tell those girls that I'm not alone...
Hey little Donna, aww ya still wanna?
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (144I4)
Posted by: Ashley Biden at July 15, 2025 01:56 PM (NdCPY)
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This is NOT a slow news day.
Israel; the CPI report; Russia/UKR.
It looks to me as if Israel is tying itself in knots. Public opinion about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, imo.
Both sides tying to spin the CPI report, but it's not good for Trump & his economic team, imo.
I'm uneasy about reports that Trump/NATO are now signaling approval for UKR to target Moscow.
This is NOT a slow news day.
Israel; the CPI report; Russia/UKR.
It looks to me as if Israel is tying itself in knots. Public opinion about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, imo.
Both sides tying to spin the CPI report, but it's not good for Trump & his economic team, imo.
I'm uneasy about reports that Trump/NATO are now signaling approval for UKR to target Moscow.
Posted by: mnw at July 15, 2025 01:57 PM (kd60y)
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The "Beverly Crusher has sex with ghosts" episode would like to dispute that.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (2ocoG)
lol
I'd forgotten that one.
OK, a lot more of the show was fine-tuned after season 3 (a lot less Wesley!).
They still had some strange & questionable choices in there.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 01:53 PM (2ocoG)
lol
I'd forgotten that one.
OK, a lot more of the show was fine-tuned after season 3 (a lot less Wesley!).
They still had some strange & questionable choices in there.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (6ydKt)
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179 🚨NEW: Alan Dershowitz says it's *NOT* Trump Admin that's hiding Epstein info — it's judges🚨
"Many of the things that are being suppressed are being suppressed by two judges in Manhattan."
"The judges have issued orders — which is why I can't disclose things I'd love to disclose"
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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He is probably correct in part as those judges have power over grand jury testimony over Maxwell and Epstein and depositions in the Prince Andrew lawsuits.
The good news is that evidence is probably less tainted because of the eyes on those documents/testimony. The bad news is any of that evidence is unlikely to have much if anything about CIA/FBI/Foreign Intel in it. Maxwell's prosecution dealt with her pandering for Epstein personally, not others. Epstein's was for sexual trafficking but I would have to dig up the indictment for it because I cannot find a grand jury.
Approximately twenty lawsuits by victims have been filed against the estate for Epstein's crimes with the list of Jane Does and the few named/initialed plaintiffs counting well into the double digits. Alleged assaults from the 1970's onward.
"Many of the things that are being suppressed are being suppressed by two judges in Manhattan."
"The judges have issued orders — which is why I can't disclose things I'd love to disclose"
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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He is probably correct in part as those judges have power over grand jury testimony over Maxwell and Epstein and depositions in the Prince Andrew lawsuits.
The good news is that evidence is probably less tainted because of the eyes on those documents/testimony. The bad news is any of that evidence is unlikely to have much if anything about CIA/FBI/Foreign Intel in it. Maxwell's prosecution dealt with her pandering for Epstein personally, not others. Epstein's was for sexual trafficking but I would have to dig up the indictment for it because I cannot find a grand jury.
Approximately twenty lawsuits by victims have been filed against the estate for Epstein's crimes with the list of Jane Does and the few named/initialed plaintiffs counting well into the double digits. Alleged assaults from the 1970's onward.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:02 PM (ctrM5)
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224 Ha, if Powell resigns, the markets will freak a bit.
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One week story.
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One week story.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 02:03 PM (ctrM5)
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trump didn't do that poorly in nyc, if the three dems split the vote sliwa might pull it off. he was well known in nyc before mammydammy was born, not that that would make any difference to a lot of nyc idiots
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 15, 2025 02:14 PM (CWTWj)
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Hey, we could do a thread with Donna in the title or lyrics.
I'll go first, and I won't include the song title, you can guess.
Donna, Donna, educate me, tell those girls that I'm not alone...
Hey little Donna, aww ya still wanna?
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (144I4)
Do band names count?
I'll go first, and I won't include the song title, you can guess.
Donna, Donna, educate me, tell those girls that I'm not alone...
Hey little Donna, aww ya still wanna?
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 15, 2025 01:55 PM (144I4)
Do band names count?
Posted by: The Donnas at July 15, 2025 02:20 PM (8hxDK)
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Ya' know, expectorations aren't nothin' to sneeze at.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 02:24 PM (mlg/3)
Just the News: Discovery of "Vault" Where Comey Hid Evidence of His Russiagate Maneuverings May Help Prove Conspiracy
I think the idea here is one that the DOJ uses all the time in prosecutions: If you do something that indicates a consciousness of guilt, such as hiding evidence, then that can be used as evidence to prove intent at trial.
So, James "No Intent" Comey may have proven his intent to defraud the United States of the presidency they voted for by hiding the evidence of his crimes.Comey and the Deep State repeatedly prosecuted J6ers on the theory that they "conspired to defraud the people of the United States" of a free and fair election. That precedent can now be used to prosecute them. Related? Pam Bondi fires the DOJ's top "ethics" official.
The FBI's decision to open a probe that treats the last decade of political weaponization of law enforcement and intelligence agencies as an ongoing criminal conspiracy is being cheered by lawmakers and could be aided by Director Kash Patel's recent discovery of a room where the bureau had "hidden" evidence from public and congressional view. Patel's discovery of the evidence "vault" or "lockbox" as he called it on a recent interview with podcaster Joe Rogan and the opening of the "overarching conspiracy" probe occurred around the same time this spring, officials told Just the News. The discovery that the FBI stashed away evidence in politically hot probes like Russigate could help prosecutors convince a grand jury that government officials were engaged in a coverup or an effort to deprive civil liberties, experts said. "I think it's part of a coordinated strategy to deprive people of their constitutional rights to speech and to petition the government for redress of agreements and also the right to counsel," former Trump attorney John Eastman told the John Solomon Reports podcast on Monday. And while the discovery of the evidence vault and the emergence of the conspiracy probe are shrouded in some secrecy, their existence has buoyed Republicans in Congress who long believed prosecution of government actors behind scandals like Russiagate and Biden family corruption was warranted. "They put America through unbelievable, really historic political turmoil, knowing that the entire narrative was completely false," Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., declared Monday, after word of the conspiracy case surfaced in a Just the News report. "I felt these people were criminals for many years now," Johnson told the Just the News, No Noise TV show. "I mean, the fact that they knew this...the whole Russiagate was a conspiracy hatched by the Clinton campaign back in 2016. President Obama was briefed on that. I mean, they all knew." Just the News reported Monday that the FBI quietly launched an investigation into a decade of Democratic Party and "deep-state" antics ranging from ginning up the Trump-Russia collusion to examining special counsel Jack Smith's pursuit of Trump. That news could open the door for the appointment of a special prosecutor to examine whether the different events support a presentation to a grand jury regarding a criminal conspiracy to influence three consecutive presidential elections to the benefit of Democrats and the detriment of Trump. Previously hidden documents or information with potential impact being suddenly discovered is a developing pattern, and the release of that material is likely to have major repercussions. The FBI's "grand conspiracy" case was opened several weeks ago, Just the News reported, and it could get a significant boost if Trump were to declassify two yet-classified troves of evidence that identify key pieces of the alleged conspiracy dating back to the summer of 2016, according to several people directly familiar with the inquiry who spoke to Just the News on a condition of anonymity. Patel said in a mid-May joint interview with FBI deputy director Dan Bongino that "as much as we know about Crossfire Hurricane, he and I just found out more last week, and we're continuing to work with Congress to put those documents out."
Attorney General Pam Bondi has dismissed one of the department's top career ethics officials. Joseph Tirrell, who was responsible for advising senior Department of Justice (DOJ) leaders on ethical standards, had long been seen by critics as emblematic of the entrenched bureaucratic mindset that too often prioritizes politics over justice. Bondi's decision sends a clear message: under her leadership, the DOJ will no longer tolerate internal resistance that undermines conservative reforms or the will of the American people.
Hello everyone! Hope your Tuesday afternoon is feeling more like a Friday 'round five-ish.
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Posted by: GF at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (zNGBe)
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Posted by: RUReadingthis at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (aQ25I)
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Yeet!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (W2Pud)
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>>Hope your Tuesday is feels more like a Friday.
A rare ace typo. And thank you, ace, I hope your Tuesday feels more like a Friday as well.
A rare ace typo. And thank you, ace, I hope your Tuesday feels more like a Friday as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (uCjyK)
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I am going through nicotine withdrawal. I think they should all be shot and then have the bodies hung from streetlamps and overpasses.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (bss/y)
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I can't wait until we hear about how federal prosecutors overprosecute cases to generate wins in court and how it's now a bad thing when targeted at people who spent years in the highest corridors of power trying to undo the will of the people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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I'll wait till someone is actually arrested before I get any hope that there will be consequences.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (N1DT3)
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4 >>Hope your Tuesday is feels more like a Friday.
A rare ace typo. And thank you, ace, I hope your Tuesday feels more like a Friday as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (uCjyK)
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At least it didn't break the front page.
A rare ace typo. And thank you, ace, I hope your Tuesday feels more like a Friday as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (uCjyK)
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At least it didn't break the front page.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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It's FAR too much to hope for a pre-dawn raid with jack-booted thugs tossing him to the ground, I'm sure.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (N1DT3)
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It's astounding that they didn't destroy all of this, but instead they hid them. It's like all the incriminating 3rd Reich files that the nazi's should have gotten rid of, but didn't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (uWKK8)
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Frankly, I'd rather see Brennan, Cummy, Clapper and all the other Intel traitors swing for treason over this than be bothered with Epstein right now.
I think you don't have to even dig too deep to find a link from the latter to the former.
Frankly, I'd rather see Brennan, Cummy, Clapper and all the other Intel traitors swing for treason over this than be bothered with Epstein right now.
I think you don't have to even dig too deep to find a link from the latter to the former.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (x0n13)
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That precedent can now be used to prosecute them.
Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM
...in a DC courtroom. I already know what the outcome there will be.
Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM
...in a DC courtroom. I already know what the outcome there will be.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 12:08 PM (N1DT3)
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This vault better not be more Geraldo Rivera bullshit.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:08 PM (fz7Mb)
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5 I am going through nicotine withdrawal. I think they should all be shot and then have the bodies hung from streetlamps and overpasses.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I’m not going through nicotine withdrawal and I think you’re being far to lenient.
Tar and feathers and placed in the stocks first. Then shoot and hang.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I’m not going through nicotine withdrawal and I think you’re being far to lenient.
Tar and feathers and placed in the stocks first. Then shoot and hang.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 12:08 PM (W2Pud)
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Vault in the Mines of Moria?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:08 PM (cn0nj)
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Hillary might be prosecuted and sent to prison before she self-mummifies with help from vodka at the age of 105?
Posted by: Wofus at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (CNa+A)
Posted by: DaveA at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (FhXTo)
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Time for Jake Tapper to announce his "Veteran of the Day (As Needed To Ignore Democrats Breaking The Law)" thingy that he does
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (k1E2D)
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At least it didn't break the front page.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
Good point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
Good point.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (uCjyK)
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Seniors may qualify for the new $900 food card.
Posted by: Scam Likely at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (jc0TO)
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Please, no more talk of vaults.
— Geraldo
— Geraldo
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (77rzZ)
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Dang, why didn't I think of the Comey vault? That's way better than Capone's vault.
Posted by: Geraldo Rivera at July 15, 2025 12:10 PM (Riz8t)
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nice to see that they're catching up to where we were 8 or 10 (+?) years ago ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 12:10 PM (dKEEs)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 12:10 PM (fCgdX)
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8 4 >>Hope your Tuesday is feels more like a Friday.
A rare ace typo. And thank you, ace, I hope your Tuesday feels more like a Friday as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (uCjyK)
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At least it didn't break the front page.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
Or ban himself
A rare ace typo. And thank you, ace, I hope your Tuesday feels more like a Friday as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (uCjyK)
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At least it didn't break the front page.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
Or ban himself
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 15, 2025 12:11 PM (k1E2D)
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Anything going to happen? I was going to take a nap but if something is going to happen, it can wait.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 12:11 PM (NR6c1)
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James 86-47 Comey? That guy? Hard to believe
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 12:11 PM (FNvF+)
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10 It's astounding that they didn't destroy all of this, but instead they hid them. It's like all the incriminating 3rd Reich files that the nazi's should have gotten rid of, but didn't.
Because in their minds they did nothing wrong. In fact, they're heroes and they want people to know of their heroism. Of course, timing is important here.
Because in their minds they did nothing wrong. In fact, they're heroes and they want people to know of their heroism. Of course, timing is important here.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 12:11 PM (Riz8t)
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Two more weeks!
Posted by: Joe DiGenova at July 15, 2025 12:11 PM (qUkBO)
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I think you don't have to even dig too deep to find a link from the latter to the former.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (x0n13)
I agree, I think we'll find the same cast of characters is behind the j6 stuff, the russiagate stuff, and the Epstein stuff.
But we're letting them slide on the Epstein stuff, so I'm not going to hold out a lot of hope that anything will happen with the "grand conspiracy" stuff. But I guess it's better that they're not trying to gaslight us in to thinking none of that happened either.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (x0n13)
I agree, I think we'll find the same cast of characters is behind the j6 stuff, the russiagate stuff, and the Epstein stuff.
But we're letting them slide on the Epstein stuff, so I'm not going to hold out a lot of hope that anything will happen with the "grand conspiracy" stuff. But I guess it's better that they're not trying to gaslight us in to thinking none of that happened either.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:12 PM (uCjyK)
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>> If you do something that indicates a consciousness of guilt, such as hiding evidence, then that can be used as evidence to prove intent at trial.
iirc - This would also keep the timeline open for the Statute of Limitation.
iirc - This would also keep the timeline open for the Statute of Limitation.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:12 PM (1F/ig)
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John Brennan needs to be prosecuted, if for no other reason than his face, which resembles a mud hut.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 15, 2025 12:12 PM (PMtkd)
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Misfiling documents are like putting the Ark of the Covenant in that giant warehouse.
Posted by: Scam Likely at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (hfKLq)
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There's a certain number of Republicans who are hoping this will be partisan enough to leave them off the hook for their own complicity. A rather large percentage of GOPe were dead set against OrangeManBad too, and willing to look the other way while this witch hunt occurred.
In fact, didn't John McCain present the Steele Dossier to some functionary in DOJ himself? Anyone think he did that without any of his contemporaries knowing?
But good on this DOJ ( if anything actually comes of it besides more soundbites for blowhards) for pursuing justice.
Somewhere down the road after all the guilty are dead, maybe we'll get around to hanging people for covid crimes against humanity.
In fact, didn't John McCain present the Steele Dossier to some functionary in DOJ himself? Anyone think he did that without any of his contemporaries knowing?
But good on this DOJ ( if anything actually comes of it besides more soundbites for blowhards) for pursuing justice.
Somewhere down the road after all the guilty are dead, maybe we'll get around to hanging people for covid crimes against humanity.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (Hx0tZ)
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31 >> If you do something that indicates a consciousness of guilt, such as hiding evidence, then that can be used as evidence to prove intent at trial.
iirc - This would also keep the timeline open for the Statute of Limitation.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:12 PM (1F/ig)
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The most recent action in continuance of the conspiracy is when the statute of limitations clock starts.
iirc - This would also keep the timeline open for the Statute of Limitation.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:12 PM (1F/ig)
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The most recent action in continuance of the conspiracy is when the statute of limitations clock starts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Who's being charged? Oh, not guilty.
Posted by: DC Perma-Jury at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (qUkBO)
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It's like all the incriminating 3rd Reich files that the nazi's should have gotten rid of, but didn't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (uWKK
Why destroy proof that you did the right thing?
That's what they think, after all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (uWKK
Why destroy proof that you did the right thing?
That's what they think, after all.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (fCgdX)
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Comey and the Deep State repeatedly prosecuted J6ers on the theory that they "conspired to defraud the people of the United States" of a free and fair election.
That precedent can now be used to prosecute them.
Can they be prosecuted though? Biden was pretty liberal with his blanket pardons.
That precedent can now be used to prosecute them.
Can they be prosecuted though? Biden was pretty liberal with his blanket pardons.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (N39Ws)
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Oh please, this is obvious vaporware masterbatory bullshit. Comey hid incriminating files in a ... room with a lock on the door? And we learn of this through a Joe Rogan podcast? Gimme a break.
Everything we already know about this slimy Comey ratfucker and his minions is more than enough to prosecute -- if we had the balls do to it. We don't. We just don't. Just admit it and move on.
I don't care how many fake files are found in fake rooms. We're just getting jerked off and fingered and fluffy feathers fondling our assholes. Enough. No good will ever come of going around and around and around with this bullshit.
Everything we already know about this slimy Comey ratfucker and his minions is more than enough to prosecute -- if we had the balls do to it. We don't. We just don't. Just admit it and move on.
I don't care how many fake files are found in fake rooms. We're just getting jerked off and fingered and fluffy feathers fondling our assholes. Enough. No good will ever come of going around and around and around with this bullshit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
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>>...in a DC courtroom. I already know what the outcome there will be.
Or perhaps a Florida courtroom.
In a conspiracy, a case can be brought in any jurisdiction where the conspiracy occured.
Or perhaps a Florida courtroom.
In a conspiracy, a case can be brought in any jurisdiction where the conspiracy occured.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:14 PM (viF8m)
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I wish the "so it begins" guy would show up.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 15, 2025 12:14 PM (PMtkd)
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Tuesday is derived from Old English Tiwesdæg meaning "Tīw's Day", the day of Tiw or Týr, the god of single combat, law, and justice in Norse mythology.
How about some Law and Justice today?
How about some Law and Justice today?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 15, 2025 12:14 PM (w9Wax)
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Far under the Hoover building lies
A secret vault that has our prize
We must away, and catch our prey
To show that Comey was unwise
A secret vault that has our prize
We must away, and catch our prey
To show that Comey was unwise
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:14 PM (i5B/J)
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40 Oh please, this is obvious vaporware masterbatory bullshit. Comey hid incriminating files in a ... room with a lock on the door? And we learn of this through a Joe Rogan podcast? Gimme a break.
Everything we already know about this slimy Comey ratfucker and his minions is more than enough to prosecute -- if we had the balls do to it. We don't. We just don't. Just admit it and move on.
I don't care how many fake files are found in fake rooms. We're just getting jerked off and fingered and fluffy feathers fondling our assholes. Enough. No good will ever come of going around and around and around with this bullshit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
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I think this is what Margot Cleveland was talking about a few weeks ago, the marking of files as unsearchable at all within the FBI system. Essentially, so secret that no one with any level of clearance could see that the documents even existed.
Everything we already know about this slimy Comey ratfucker and his minions is more than enough to prosecute -- if we had the balls do to it. We don't. We just don't. Just admit it and move on.
I don't care how many fake files are found in fake rooms. We're just getting jerked off and fingered and fluffy feathers fondling our assholes. Enough. No good will ever come of going around and around and around with this bullshit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
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I think this is what Margot Cleveland was talking about a few weeks ago, the marking of files as unsearchable at all within the FBI system. Essentially, so secret that no one with any level of clearance could see that the documents even existed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:14 PM (GBKbO)
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Rico!! Oh Rico, where are you?
I kind of thought the text messages between Strokeface and Pagegirl were pretty damning but hey whatever. I'm no lawyer so what do I know?
I kind of thought the text messages between Strokeface and Pagegirl were pretty damning but hey whatever. I'm no lawyer so what do I know?
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 12:15 PM (lPvx2)
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>>John Brennan needs to be prosecuted
If you insist he gets Due Process.
I'd be fine with skipping straight to using him as a Festive Decoration for a DC Lamppost.
If you insist he gets Due Process.
I'd be fine with skipping straight to using him as a Festive Decoration for a DC Lamppost.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:15 PM (1F/ig)
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>>> Patel's discovery of the evidence "vault" or "lockbox" as he called it on a recent interview with podcaster Joe Rogan and the opening of the "overarching conspiracy" probe
Also, not for nothing, I'd encourage anyone with any interest in politics to listen to that Rogan / Patel podcast.
Patel sounded (to me, I don't really know the guy!) like he was absolutely full of shit basically from the moment he started talking to the moment he left.
Even with a friendly'ish interview, Patel was clearly struggling to get his prepared talking points out when it came to many subjects.
Also, not for nothing, I'd encourage anyone with any interest in politics to listen to that Rogan / Patel podcast.
Patel sounded (to me, I don't really know the guy!) like he was absolutely full of shit basically from the moment he started talking to the moment he left.
Even with a friendly'ish interview, Patel was clearly struggling to get his prepared talking points out when it came to many subjects.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
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Hi Ace
I read that the case could be moved to Florida. So,etching about how the conspiracy is designated and that Mar a Lago is involved? Or am I mixing that up with something else?
I read that the case could be moved to Florida. So,etching about how the conspiracy is designated and that Mar a Lago is involved? Or am I mixing that up with something else?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 15, 2025 12:15 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: man at July 15, 2025 12:15 PM (tubbA)
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I think Fenris Wolf chewed off Twee's hand.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:15 PM (cn0nj)
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I wish the "so it begins" guy would show up.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 15, 2025 12:14 PM (PMtkd)
Or the Steiner will come guy
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 15, 2025 12:14 PM (PMtkd)
Or the Steiner will come guy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 12:16 PM (FNvF+)
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Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 12:16 PM (+qU29)
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Quick. Hide behind those curtains.
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 12:16 PM (UjdFS)
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Maybe I should have read the whole post first?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 15, 2025 12:16 PM (t/2Uw)
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Nancy Mace will come.
Posted by: Steiner at July 15, 2025 12:16 PM (jc0TO)
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>>I read that the case could be moved to Florida. So,etching about how the conspiracy is designated and that Mar a Lago is involved? Or am I mixing that up with something else?
No, you're correct.
No, you're correct.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:16 PM (viF8m)
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I always knew that James Comey was a huge piece of shit. I mean really, I only hired him because I felt sorry for him and thought he could be of some use cleaning the shitters.
Posted by: Bob Mueller, Former FBI Director And All But Forgotten at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (r/wv3)
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My sister's boyfriends' cousin saw Fenris throw up at 31 Flavors Last Night...
apparently it's serious.
apparently it's serious.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (1F/ig)
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@48
>>Even with a friendly'ish interview, Patel was clearly struggling to get his prepared talking points out when it came to many subjects.
Joe should ask Patel to come back but get Bret Weinstein and his brother to be on the show as well.
That would be interesting.
>>Even with a friendly'ish interview, Patel was clearly struggling to get his prepared talking points out when it came to many subjects.
Joe should ask Patel to come back but get Bret Weinstein and his brother to be on the show as well.
That would be interesting.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (hfKLq)
Posted by: man at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (tubbA)
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Frankly, I'd rather see Brennan, Cummy, Clapper and all the other Intel traitors swing for treason over this than be bothered with Epstein right now.
I think you don't have to even dig too deep to find a link from the latter to the former.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (x0n13) "
The more the left is pushing "epstein, epstein, epstein" the less of a rat's ass I give about it. Why would I want to eff up the great work Trump has done and is doing? Not gonna do the commies work for them.
I never thought we would get anything, so not disappointed.
Frankly, I'd rather see Brennan, Cummy, Clapper and all the other Intel traitors swing for treason over this than be bothered with Epstein right now.
I think you don't have to even dig too deep to find a link from the latter to the former.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (x0n13) "
The more the left is pushing "epstein, epstein, epstein" the less of a rat's ass I give about it. Why would I want to eff up the great work Trump has done and is doing? Not gonna do the commies work for them.
I never thought we would get anything, so not disappointed.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (dKEEs)
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (1F/ig)
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I think Fenris Wolf chewed off Twee's hand.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Dang it, I was just about to hang some wallpaper!
Posted by: Boss Moss
Dang it, I was just about to hang some wallpaper!
Posted by: Twee at July 15, 2025 12:18 PM (w9Wax)
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I would appreciate Comey being jailed for his Coup D'etat
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 12:18 PM (+qU29)
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Life in the 21st Century: I didn't realize Barnes & Noble has a "Gay Kids Section", but apparently they do and its as trashy as you would it imagine it to be:
https://tinyurl.com/49ckrjyn
https://tinyurl.com/49ckrjyn
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 12:18 PM (TN0g+)
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Apparently the Royal Navy lacks the firepiwer to sink some dinghys.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:18 PM (cn0nj)
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>>Maybe I should have read the whole post first?
That's Rookie Talk.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM
Yeah, you'll never hit your comment numbers with that attitude.
That's Rookie Talk.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM
Yeah, you'll never hit your comment numbers with that attitude.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:18 PM (jc0TO)
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I don't care how many fake files are found in fake rooms. We're just getting jerked off and fingered and fluffy feathers fondling our assholes. Enough. No good will ever come of going around and around and around with this bullshit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
Here I thought I reached the right amount of cynical in my comment. I was wrong.
THIS is the right amount of cynical.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
Here I thought I reached the right amount of cynical in my comment. I was wrong.
THIS is the right amount of cynical.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 12:18 PM (Hx0tZ)
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Comey is definitely a smug puke who I'd love to see frog marched. As I said last thread Bondi, Patel and Bongi o have to wade through a nest of vipers one by one. The corruption in those agencies has been building for years. The lifers ain't going quietly.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 12:19 PM (volu5)
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 12:19 PM (UjdFS)
72
And so it begins.
Posted by: Guy who thinks it is beginning at July 15, 2025 12:19 PM (u73oe)
73
… think they should all be shot and then have the bodies hung from streetlamps and overpasses.
Windchimes. Their skeletal remains on permanent display, melodiously and mellifluously tinkling with the gentle Zephyrs wafting about the Reflecting Pool on the National Mall.
Windchimes. Their skeletal remains on permanent display, melodiously and mellifluously tinkling with the gentle Zephyrs wafting about the Reflecting Pool on the National Mall.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 12:19 PM (x0PGQ)
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (r/wv3)
75
Afternoon, Ace!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (kgE5c)
76
I don't care how many fake files are found in fake rooms. We're just getting jerked off and fingered and fluffy feathers fondling our assholes. Enough. No good will ever come of going around and around and around with this bullshit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
I would much prefer Trump just come out and say "look, we're not going to win against the Deep State. I'm going to do what I can while in office, but if we open any number of cans of worms, it will be a full out war in DC, and we'll get nothing done."
This "don't believe your lying eyes and ears, LOOK - Squirrel!" stuff is insulting to our intelligence.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
I would much prefer Trump just come out and say "look, we're not going to win against the Deep State. I'm going to do what I can while in office, but if we open any number of cans of worms, it will be a full out war in DC, and we'll get nothing done."
This "don't believe your lying eyes and ears, LOOK - Squirrel!" stuff is insulting to our intelligence.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (uCjyK)
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Here I thought I reached the right amount of cynical in my comment. I was wrong.
THIS is the right amount of cynical.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 12:18 PM (Hx0tZ)
Hey I liked the fluffy feathers part!
THIS is the right amount of cynical.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 12:18 PM (Hx0tZ)
Hey I liked the fluffy feathers part!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (uWKK8)
78
Windchimes. Their skeletal remains on permanent display, melodiously and mellifluously tinkling with the gentle Zephyrs wafting about the Reflecting Pool on the National Mall.
I played the bones.
I played the bones.
Posted by: Lionel Hampton at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (w9Wax)
79
If this is followed through to nab all the conspirators the Epstein sideshow becomes a parallel sideshow.
In fact there may be elements of the Epstein case that draws that mess in.
In fact there may be elements of the Epstein case that draws that mess in.
Posted by: Minuteman at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (47/pr)
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73 … think they should all be shot and then have the bodies hung from streetlamps and overpasses.
Windchimes. Their skeletal remains on permanent display, melodiously and mellifluously tinkling with the gentle Zephyrs wafting about the Reflecting Pool on the National Mall.
Perhaps with a nice Chihuly glass display underneath.
Windchimes. Their skeletal remains on permanent display, melodiously and mellifluously tinkling with the gentle Zephyrs wafting about the Reflecting Pool on the National Mall.
Perhaps with a nice Chihuly glass display underneath.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (Riz8t)
81
43 Tuesday is derived from Old English Tiwesdæg meaning "Tīw's Day", the day of Tiw or Týr, the god of single combat, law, and justice in Norse mythology.
How about some Law and Justice today?
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You failed to mention Tiw lost his hand to a wolf. This is the cost of Justice. See True Grit for an update on Viking Justice.
How about some Law and Justice today?
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You failed to mention Tiw lost his hand to a wolf. This is the cost of Justice. See True Grit for an update on Viking Justice.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (W3T6M)
82
I was walking along the beach and what do you know I saw this random collection of rocks that spell out “hang comey”… what a coincidence
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 12:21 PM (WnEm5)
83
This story is just the a disturbance on the surface that hides the shark underneath--there are a lot of things moving just out of view.
Obama crawling out of his hole to exhort the Dems toward greater violence is related.
Obama crawling out of his hole to exhort the Dems toward greater violence is related.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 12:21 PM (g9iKZ)
84
Please, please, just one of them staring at the sky from their 8X10 in Florence (I'll give them the one hour walk around).
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 12:21 PM (gm9Sb)
85
Why do you think Trump picked Patel to lead the FBI?
First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?
First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:21 PM (viF8m)
86
You need to tar the corpse if you want a long lasting display.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (jc0TO)
87
It's astounding that they didn't destroy all of this, but instead they hid them. It's like all the incriminating 3rd Reich files that the nazi's should have gotten rid of, but didn't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (uWKK
The Nazi files were found because the Germans were obsessed with bureaucratic organization, complete with backup document copies stored in caves.
The Donk commie cocksuckers saved copies so that the info could be USED.
It's astounding that they didn't destroy all of this, but instead they hid them. It's like all the incriminating 3rd Reich files that the nazi's should have gotten rid of, but didn't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (uWKK
The Nazi files were found because the Germans were obsessed with bureaucratic organization, complete with backup document copies stored in caves.
The Donk commie cocksuckers saved copies so that the info could be USED.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (y9nCu)
88
Look behind the drapes. There's probably more blockbusters hiding there.
Posted by: Consuela The Maid at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (G5+As)
89
The poll panic on X is a sight to see. The sky is falling. Trump's numbers are falling. Epstein files more important than closing the border and curing inflation!
Me: all I can think about is I have to have a tooth pulled tomorrow .
Me: all I can think about is I have to have a tooth pulled tomorrow .
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (t/2Uw)
90
There are no curtains you can hide behind now CORNEY!!!!
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 12:23 PM (lPvx2)
91
The Nazi files were found because the Germans were obsessed with bureaucratic organization, complete with backup document copies stored in caves.
The Donk commie cocksuckers saved copies so that the info could be USED.
Also, the Nazis never expected to lose, not unlike the Dems from 2016 til now.
The Donk commie cocksuckers saved copies so that the info could be USED.
Also, the Nazis never expected to lose, not unlike the Dems from 2016 til now.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 12:23 PM (Riz8t)
92
>Discovery of "Vault" Where Comey Hid Evidence of His Russiagate Maneuverings May Help Prove Conspiracy
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Do you want me to say it? Because I'll say it..
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Do you want me to say it? Because I'll say it..
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 12:23 PM (AOsQT)
93
Me: all I can think about is I have to have a tooth pulled tomorrow .
I mean, compared to what's apparently on Elric's mind, that's pretty good.
I mean, compared to what's apparently on Elric's mind, that's pretty good.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 12:23 PM (Riz8t)
94
I guess you could tar the body before the hanging, but afterward is traditional.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:25 PM (jc0TO)
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>Me: all I can think about is I have to have a tooth pulled tomorrow .
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you haven't lived until they take ALL your top teeth in one sitting
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you haven't lived until they take ALL your top teeth in one sitting
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 12:25 PM (AOsQT)
96
No feathers?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:26 PM (cn0nj)
97
When I first met Comey, I asked him how tall he was. He said 6'8".
I told Jim I did not know they could stack shit that high.
Hahahahaha!
I told Jim I did not know they could stack shit that high.
Hahahahaha!
Posted by: Bob Mueller, Former FBI Director And All But Forgotten at July 15, 2025 12:26 PM (r/wv3)
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Obama crawling out of his hole to exhort the Dems toward greater violence is related.
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Yeah, Barry is a warrior.
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Yeah, Barry is a warrior.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 12:26 PM (W3T6M)
99
4 I think Fenris Wolf chewed off Twee's hand.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Dang it, I was just about to hang some wallpaper!
Posted by: Twee
Sobs, uncontrollably!
Posted by: Boss Moss
Dang it, I was just about to hang some wallpaper!
Posted by: Twee
Sobs, uncontrollably!
Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 15, 2025 12:26 PM (G5+As)
100
Listen to me now and hear me later and talk about it some other time
Ignore your teeth and they will just go away
Ignore your teeth and they will just go away
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 12:26 PM (AOsQT)
101
Why did Comey call that imprmptu Press Conference right before the general? He did not want to do this. Someone or something forced his hand. What was it? The fact that he tried to hand wave away, and cover for, serious black letter federal law - failure to safeguard state secrets, is beside the point. “Don’t try this at home, kids”. Amusingly, the left tried to resort to the “She didn’t mean to” defense, as if intent has anything whatsoever to do with relevant statutes.
One of the more remarkable episodes, in long running sordid tales of “Justice” in the U.S.A.
One of the more remarkable episodes, in long running sordid tales of “Justice” in the U.S.A.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 12:27 PM (iFul6)
102
You need to tar the corpse if you want a long lasting display.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (jc0TO)
But if you don't then you're treated to the display of crows and other birds eating rancid carcass, and the occasional dropping of some bits in a brisk breeze.
Followed by the clanking of bones in the breeze until the sinew and ligament lets them also fall to the ground.
As some poster above said, like a windchime.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (jc0TO)
But if you don't then you're treated to the display of crows and other birds eating rancid carcass, and the occasional dropping of some bits in a brisk breeze.
Followed by the clanking of bones in the breeze until the sinew and ligament lets them also fall to the ground.
As some poster above said, like a windchime.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 12:27 PM (Hx0tZ)
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The poll panic on X is a sight to see. The sky is falling. Trump's numbers are falling. Epstein files more important than closing the border and curing inflation!
Me: all I can think about is I have to have a tooth pulled tomorrow .
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (t/2Uw)
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It's insane how displaced people's priorities are.
Good luck with your extraction.
Me: all I can think about is I have to have a tooth pulled tomorrow .
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (t/2Uw)
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It's insane how displaced people's priorities are.
Good luck with your extraction.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 12:28 PM (NpAcC)
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"It's astounding that they didn't destroy all of this, but instead they hid them. It's like all the incriminating 3rd Reich files that the nazi's should have gotten rid of, but didn't."
It's because they were proud of what they did.
It's because they were proud of what they did.
Posted by: PJ O'rourke at July 15, 2025 12:28 PM (QB+5g)
105
If this is followed through to nab all the conspirators the Epstein sideshow becomes a parallel sideshow.
In fact there may be elements of the Epstein case that draws that mess in.
Posted by: Minuteman
At which point, everything gets dropped.
In fact there may be elements of the Epstein case that draws that mess in.
Posted by: Minuteman
At which point, everything gets dropped.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 12:28 PM (4IClK)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 15, 2025 12:28 PM (FxH7T)
107
Well, to Mis Hum's earlier point, there is certainly enough to prosecute Comey and crew with what he know publicly without any secret files in secret faults, and yet no one is going after them, and no one went after them in Trump 1.0.
And yet, federal law enforcement and federal prosecutors routinely go after people REALLY HARD with much less information to work with.
For example, I took someones advice and listened to George Santos on Tucker Carlson. For the record: Tucker is still grating to listen to. Santos (who I didn't really follow when he was in Congress) actually came off fairly likeable. But I bring him up to point out he's about to go to federal prison for 7 years for $50,000 worth of questionable spending of campaign money.
So it's not like the DOJ doesn't go after political people with everything they've got SOMETIMES.
And yet, federal law enforcement and federal prosecutors routinely go after people REALLY HARD with much less information to work with.
For example, I took someones advice and listened to George Santos on Tucker Carlson. For the record: Tucker is still grating to listen to. Santos (who I didn't really follow when he was in Congress) actually came off fairly likeable. But I bring him up to point out he's about to go to federal prison for 7 years for $50,000 worth of questionable spending of campaign money.
So it's not like the DOJ doesn't go after political people with everything they've got SOMETIMES.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:28 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 12:28 PM (NR6c1)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 12:29 PM (dKEEs)
110
But if you don't then you're treated to the display of crows and other birds eating rancid carcass, and the occasional dropping of some bits in a brisk breeze.
Followed by the clanking of bones in the breeze until the sinew and ligament lets them also fall to the ground.
As some poster above said, like a windchime.
Oh, geez Louise. Just get yourself a nice gibbet cage.
Followed by the clanking of bones in the breeze until the sinew and ligament lets them also fall to the ground.
As some poster above said, like a windchime.
Oh, geez Louise. Just get yourself a nice gibbet cage.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 12:29 PM (Riz8t)
111
Yeah, I don't get what the hell is going on with Epstein.
Just tell us what the hell is actually happening.
And - I don't care about the dirtbags Mueller and Comey. Not really. Just publicize everything they have done. Give the media and bloggers EVERTHING. I don't want them in jail as much as I want the truth.
Just tell us what the hell is actually happening.
And - I don't care about the dirtbags Mueller and Comey. Not really. Just publicize everything they have done. Give the media and bloggers EVERTHING. I don't want them in jail as much as I want the truth.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 15, 2025 12:29 PM (D1vbu)
112
Plan.
Remember the plan.
It's very obvious this was the plan.
All along.
The watch tower.
We're going to relive the whole Q conspiracy.
Have't been there in years. Wonder what they are saying.
Remember the plan.
It's very obvious this was the plan.
All along.
The watch tower.
We're going to relive the whole Q conspiracy.
Have't been there in years. Wonder what they are saying.
Posted by: Q at July 15, 2025 12:30 PM (lPvx2)
113
Comey’s always a legend in his own mind… remember how eager he was to tell the world that he rushed to John Ashcroft’s hospital room to save the world from Alberto Gonzalez and his desire to torture during W’s reign? He’s always been a pompous ass
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 12:30 PM (P/Wjn)
114
Destroying government files is in itself a felony.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:30 PM (viF8m)
115
Who's being charged? Oh, not guilty.
Posted by: DC Perma-Jury
I believe since it's a conspiracy and related to perhaps Jack Smith Maro Lago BS the grand jury can be empaneled there as well as the case
Posted by: DC Perma-Jury
I believe since it's a conspiracy and related to perhaps Jack Smith Maro Lago BS the grand jury can be empaneled there as well as the case
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 15, 2025 12:30 PM (FxH7T)
116
DURHAM IS CUUUMMMMING!
Posted by: IN YOUR MOUTH at July 15, 2025 12:31 PM (srdUp)
117
Why did Comey call that imprmptu Press Conference right before the general? He did not want to do this. Someone or something forced his hand. What was it?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 12:27 PM (iFul6)
And we can go full circle back to Epstein. Who told Acosta to stay out of the 2008 Epstein case because Epstein "worked for intelligence" and why would Acosta listen to that or care?
The way he spoke about it, it almost sounded like it was an order from above and that that was not a bizarre thing to happen.
I would think high ranking CIA officials aren't regularly telling AG's how to handle their cases, and those AG's don't have to listen to anyone at CIA, right?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 12:27 PM (iFul6)
And we can go full circle back to Epstein. Who told Acosta to stay out of the 2008 Epstein case because Epstein "worked for intelligence" and why would Acosta listen to that or care?
The way he spoke about it, it almost sounded like it was an order from above and that that was not a bizarre thing to happen.
I would think high ranking CIA officials aren't regularly telling AG's how to handle their cases, and those AG's don't have to listen to anyone at CIA, right?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:31 PM (uCjyK)
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116 No one gives a shit about Comey or his hidden files.
Trump should give us the Epstein files that you promised during the election, or else he's a lying sack of shit.
Posted by: I've Had Enough of the Clown Con Man at July 15, 2025 12:30 PM (3JZx+)
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Direct quote, please.
Trump should give us the Epstein files that you promised during the election, or else he's a lying sack of shit.
Posted by: I've Had Enough of the Clown Con Man at July 15, 2025 12:30 PM (3JZx+)
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Direct quote, please.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
119
One of the more remarkable episodes, in long running sordid tales of “Justice” in the U.S.A.
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The Constitution did not imagine a Department of Justice. It is nothing moar than the protectorate of the special people. Much like its doppelganger, The Temple of Reason.
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The Constitution did not imagine a Department of Justice. It is nothing moar than the protectorate of the special people. Much like its doppelganger, The Temple of Reason.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 12:31 PM (W3T6M)
120
Hello everyone! Hope your Tuesday afternoon is feeling more like a Friday 'round five-ish.
Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM
Friday? Why would it feel like Friday?
Uh... are you firing us??
Hello everyone! Hope your Tuesday afternoon is feeling more like a Friday 'round five-ish.
Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM
Friday? Why would it feel like Friday?
Uh... are you firing us??
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 15, 2025 12:31 PM (cWGRh)
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What's always cracked me up is how hare-brained the whole thing is. "We'll convince the American people that Trump is a Russian stooge!" "OK, that didn't work, but how about if he peed on Russian hookers?" "OK, that didn't work, but how about if we try to use the phony dossier as a reason to keep him off ballots?"
They were like a dumber, less successful Wile E. Coyote.
They were like a dumber, less successful Wile E. Coyote.
Posted by: Wally at July 15, 2025 12:31 PM (7CamO)
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@101
>>Why did Comey call that imprmptu Press Conference right before the general?
The FBI does not make charging decisions, they investigate and present the material to the DOJ who in turn make the decision on whether to prosecute, Comey is just a front man and stooge.
The big players are Obama, Lynch, Biden et al.
And those fuckers will never get punished.
>>Why did Comey call that imprmptu Press Conference right before the general?
The FBI does not make charging decisions, they investigate and present the material to the DOJ who in turn make the decision on whether to prosecute, Comey is just a front man and stooge.
The big players are Obama, Lynch, Biden et al.
And those fuckers will never get punished.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:32 PM (hfKLq)
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58 I always knew that James Comey was a huge piece of shit. I mean really, I only hired him because I felt sorry for him and thought he could be of some use cleaning the shitters.
Posted by: Bob Mueller, Former FBI Director And All But Forgotten at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (r/wv3)
I didn't trust Dave McCormick during either of his Senate runs because he worked with Comey at Bridgewater Associates (Comey was Chief Legal Officer; McCormick was co-President), so it was guilt by association.
I'm happy that McCormick is proving me wrong as PA Senator.
Posted by: Bob Mueller, Former FBI Director And All But Forgotten at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (r/wv3)
I didn't trust Dave McCormick during either of his Senate runs because he worked with Comey at Bridgewater Associates (Comey was Chief Legal Officer; McCormick was co-President), so it was guilt by association.
I'm happy that McCormick is proving me wrong as PA Senator.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2025 12:32 PM (0CU3H)
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Why did Big Jim shove those docs up his butt, or eat them like Sandy Burglar did?
Why do these things happen over and over and the GOP never seems to have an answer.
Oh, I know.
Why did Big Jim shove those docs up his butt, or eat them like Sandy Burglar did?
Why do these things happen over and over and the GOP never seems to have an answer.
Oh, I know.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 15, 2025 12:32 PM (et1vG)
Posted by: THE MINUTEMEN at July 15, 2025 12:32 PM (1F/ig)
126
The "tell" that this is pure bullshit -- as if any tell was needed -- is that the linked article says absolutely nothing about what was allegedly found or how it contains anything we don't already know.
The "files" are supposedly about Crossfire Hurricane. Yawn. We already know beyond a shadow of a speck of lingering Hillary ooze that CH was 100% an illegal scam and literally everyone involved was a partisan Democrap criminal. We know it. We've known it since 2018 or so.
As I said above, there is nothing more we need to know to prosecute these dracunculus cocksuckers. We had enough to prosecute them in 2018. We just lack the will. If Kash is this hot to nail the CH scumbags, then he should get off his fucking ass and prepare the case. Stop babbling about fake files in fake rooms with fake new evidence.
The "files" are supposedly about Crossfire Hurricane. Yawn. We already know beyond a shadow of a speck of lingering Hillary ooze that CH was 100% an illegal scam and literally everyone involved was a partisan Democrap criminal. We know it. We've known it since 2018 or so.
As I said above, there is nothing more we need to know to prosecute these dracunculus cocksuckers. We had enough to prosecute them in 2018. We just lack the will. If Kash is this hot to nail the CH scumbags, then he should get off his fucking ass and prepare the case. Stop babbling about fake files in fake rooms with fake new evidence.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
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128 Direct quote, please.
We've had enough you his clown defenders, too.
Fuck you.
Posted by: I've Had Enough of the Clown Con Man at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (3JZx+)
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He said that? Wow. No idea.
We've had enough you his clown defenders, too.
Fuck you.
Posted by: I've Had Enough of the Clown Con Man at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (3JZx+)
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He said that? Wow. No idea.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
128
Oh, geez Louise. Just get yourself a nice gibbet cage.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 12:29 PM (Riz8t)
Hard to believe that all this grotesque shit was fairly common until recently in human history.
We really have been coddled living in our place and time, and praise God for that.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 12:29 PM (Riz8t)
Hard to believe that all this grotesque shit was fairly common until recently in human history.
We really have been coddled living in our place and time, and praise God for that.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (Hx0tZ)
129
90% of the politicians in DC were in on the Russiagate. They all knew it was BS yet kept up the narrative.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (Vh9CX)
130
>>The FBI does not make charging decisions, they investigate and present the material to the DOJ who in turn make the decision on whether to prosecute, Comey is just a front man and stooge.
And yet, Comey did make the decision for the DOJ not to prosecute Hillary over her email server.
According to Solomon, that is part of the conspiracy investigation.
And yet, Comey did make the decision for the DOJ not to prosecute Hillary over her email server.
According to Solomon, that is part of the conspiracy investigation.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (viF8m)
131
I’m from 2 weeks in the future, Bondi assured us that there were no Comey files in a vault.
Posted by: Cray Cray from the future at July 15, 2025 12:34 PM (m5QkO)
132
I just got my mortgage insurance removed. So, ya know, I've got it pretty good over here.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 15, 2025 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
133
You got a mouse in your pocket, fucknuts?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2025 12:34 PM (XJD3+)
134
129 Ha!
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (TwZXH)
135
>Destroying government files is in itself a felony.
Posted by: JackStraw
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and fairly commonplace, I believe
Posted by: JackStraw
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and fairly commonplace, I believe
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (AOsQT)
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He said that? Wow. No idea.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
I believe Trump's full quote was "TheJamesMadison? Wow, what a clown. What grown man watches so many movies? He's like John Kerry preparing for a bicycle race at 75 years old! Can you believe that, folks? John Kerry broke his leg! Riding a bicycle! We've had enough of his clown defenders, too. Fuck you!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
I believe Trump's full quote was "TheJamesMadison? Wow, what a clown. What grown man watches so many movies? He's like John Kerry preparing for a bicycle race at 75 years old! Can you believe that, folks? John Kerry broke his leg! Riding a bicycle! We've had enough of his clown defenders, too. Fuck you!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
137
He said that? Wow. No idea.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
He was having a bad day. Only one scoop of ice cream in his dish.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
He was having a bad day. Only one scoop of ice cream in his dish.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (tKZgo)
138
117 DURHAM IS CUUUMMMMING!
Posted by: IN YOUR MOUTH at July 15, 2025 12:31 PM (srdUp)
You won't do it again right? Just the tip this time.
Posted by: IN YOUR MOUTH at July 15, 2025 12:31 PM (srdUp)
You won't do it again right? Just the tip this time.
Posted by: Q at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (lPvx2)
139
I want to see that sneering bastard Comey whining that his cellmate has inflamed his hemorrhoids to the point of needing an ass bypass directly into a baggie.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (pohLc)
140
yeah, no kidding, TJM, who knew? right?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (dKEEs)
141
138 I believe Trump's full quote was "TheJamesMadison? Wow, what a clown. What grown man watches so many movies? He's like John Kerry preparing for a bicycle race at 75 years old! Can you believe that, folks? John Kerry broke his leg! Riding a bicycle! We've had enough of his clown defenders, too. Fuck you!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
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He wounds me!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
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He wounds me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)
142
At ChiTrib: "Officials are also urging area residents to reduce their pollution levels."
Area residents are urging officials to ESAD.
Area residents are urging officials to ESAD.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (TwZXH)
143
131 90% of the politicians in DC were in on the Russiagate. They all knew it was BS yet kept up the narrative.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (Vh9CX)
But I was told conspiracies don't happen?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (Vh9CX)
But I was told conspiracies don't happen?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (uCjyK)
144
As I said above, there is nothing more we need to know to prosecute these dracunculus cocksuckers. We had enough to prosecute them in 2018. We just lack the will. If Kash is this hot to nail the CH scumbags, then he should get off his fucking ass and prepare the case. Stop babbling about fake files in fake rooms with fake new evidence.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
This.
Show us convictions and mofos in prison, and, where appropriate, awaiting executions, or stop wasting our time.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
This.
Show us convictions and mofos in prison, and, where appropriate, awaiting executions, or stop wasting our time.
Posted by: Methos at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (zLwRl)
145
I don't think publicly traded companies can even delete E mails.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (cn0nj)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (KbCG3)
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143 138 I believe Trump's full quote was "TheJamesMadison? Wow, what a clown. What grown man watches so many movies? He's like John Kerry preparing for a bicycle race at 75 years old! Can you believe that, folks? John Kerry broke his leg! Riding a bicycle! We've had enough of his clown defenders, too. Fuck you!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
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He wounds me!
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Snort.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
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He wounds me!
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Snort.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 12:37 PM (W3T6M)
148
Somebody's got their panties in a bunch.
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 12:37 PM (v0R5T)
149
More stuff to get the base excited, which will turn into a big nothingburger.
I wanna see handcuffs, perp-walks, and orange jumpsuits.
Until then, my needle remains unmoved.
I wanna see handcuffs, perp-walks, and orange jumpsuits.
Until then, my needle remains unmoved.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at July 15, 2025 12:37 PM (OYFDn)
150
151 More stuff to get the base excited, which will turn into a big nothingburger.
I wanna see handcuffs, perp-walks, and orange jumpsuits.
Until then, my needle remains unmoved.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at July 15, 2025 12:37 PM (OYFDn)
And your jimmies status? Rustled or unrustled?
I wanna see handcuffs, perp-walks, and orange jumpsuits.
Until then, my needle remains unmoved.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at July 15, 2025 12:37 PM (OYFDn)
And your jimmies status? Rustled or unrustled?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 15, 2025 12:38 PM (KbCG3)
151
146 This.
Show us convictions and mofos in prison, and, where appropriate, awaiting executions, or stop wasting our time.
Posted by: Methos at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (zLwRl)
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The frustration runs up against two things:
Empty promises (perhaps just belief in something possibly happening) from Trump's first term and standard DOJ procedure.
The first fed into the second because the DOJ doesn't announce findings of ongoing investigations, plans to arrest people before filing charges, and it means that so much of what the DOJ does regarding criminal investigation is behind the veil. We cannot see it.
So...what's happening there? Who on the outside knows?
Show us convictions and mofos in prison, and, where appropriate, awaiting executions, or stop wasting our time.
Posted by: Methos at July 15, 2025 12:36 PM (zLwRl)
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The frustration runs up against two things:
Empty promises (perhaps just belief in something possibly happening) from Trump's first term and standard DOJ procedure.
The first fed into the second because the DOJ doesn't announce findings of ongoing investigations, plans to arrest people before filing charges, and it means that so much of what the DOJ does regarding criminal investigation is behind the veil. We cannot see it.
So...what's happening there? Who on the outside knows?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:38 PM (GBKbO)
152
no...does not feel like Friday at all !
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 12:38 PM (g47mK)
153
>>The second tranche of evidence was identified by former Russiagate Special Counsel John Durham in his final report. The evidence was dubbed in the report as the “Clinton plan intelligence," and it was also placed in a classified annex kept from the American public and even many members of Congress.
>>Both pieces of evidence have remained sealed from public view for nearly a decade and are highly classified because they reveal sensitive intelligence-gathering methods, officials said.
https://tinyurl.com/3skxfu7b
>>Both pieces of evidence have remained sealed from public view for nearly a decade and are highly classified because they reveal sensitive intelligence-gathering methods, officials said.
https://tinyurl.com/3skxfu7b
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:38 PM (viF8m)
154
'dracunculus' I'm saving that one for a wormy day.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 12:38 PM (TwZXH)
155
I like Muenster cheese.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:38 PM (jc0TO)
156
@132
>>And yet, Comey did make the decision for the DOJ not to prosecute Hillary over her email server.
The decision not to prosecute Hillary came from Obama and Lynch, Comey does not have the authority.
Lynch had her tarmac meeting with bill letting him know what was up and then a short time later, hill had that "interview" and then after that they sent Comey out to do the dirty work.
I've been listening to this two weeks bullshit for 10 f***ing years, until indictments get handed down and I see Comey getting perp walked, it's all stray voltage and boob bait for bubba.
>>And yet, Comey did make the decision for the DOJ not to prosecute Hillary over her email server.
The decision not to prosecute Hillary came from Obama and Lynch, Comey does not have the authority.
Lynch had her tarmac meeting with bill letting him know what was up and then a short time later, hill had that "interview" and then after that they sent Comey out to do the dirty work.
I've been listening to this two weeks bullshit for 10 f***ing years, until indictments get handed down and I see Comey getting perp walked, it's all stray voltage and boob bait for bubba.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (hfKLq)
157
Comey seems like a pathetic dipshit and tool. He doesn't strike me as a mastermind. But what do I know? He's been Harvard.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (kTd/k)
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145 131 90% of the politicians in DC were in on the Russiagate. They all knew it was BS yet kept up the narrative.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (Vh9CX)
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When you are waist high in Chi-Com Grift its easy to form an opinion on Putin's evilness.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (Vh9CX)
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When you are waist high in Chi-Com Grift its easy to form an opinion on Putin's evilness.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (W3T6M)
159
After Comey's "86 - 47" seashell message in a bottle, the FBI proceeded to follow him for a couple days. I wonder if during that time, or shortly thereafter, this "vault" was discussed among the targets of the investigation.
See, there's probably troves of data floating around the various DoJ and FBI networks that are squirreled away so only certain people can find/access them. People not friendly towards the current administration and supporters. If the current DoJ team Trump has there doesn't have some kickass IT people on their own payroll sifting through all that shit they're incompetent.
See, there's probably troves of data floating around the various DoJ and FBI networks that are squirreled away so only certain people can find/access them. People not friendly towards the current administration and supporters. If the current DoJ team Trump has there doesn't have some kickass IT people on their own payroll sifting through all that shit they're incompetent.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (Q4IgG)
160
The FBI does not make charging decisions, they investigate and present the material to the DOJ who in turn make the decision on whether to prosecute
Yes, this is well known, at least here.
Which is why I asked the question. Why bother to have a Press Conference, laying out in excruciating detail Mrs. Clinton’s negligence (termed “extremely careless”, to specifically avoid using any legal terms denoted in the USC Title 1
Why did he think he needed to do that, just following orders, certainly. By whom?
Yes, this is well known, at least here.
Which is why I asked the question. Why bother to have a Press Conference, laying out in excruciating detail Mrs. Clinton’s negligence (termed “extremely careless”, to specifically avoid using any legal terms denoted in the USC Title 1
Why did he think he needed to do that, just following orders, certainly. By whom?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (S5W8S)
161
I'm from Missouri.
Posted by: Harry ass Truman at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (P0m9n)
162
Muenster is no Gouda.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (1F/ig)
163
Overpromising and under-delivering is about the only way to lose the mid terms.
I don't get their tact.
Why leak anything at all prior to grand jury indictments?
Are they hoping someone will break into FBI headquarters once abandoned, and break into that "secret" room?
Jeebus...
This ain't Watergate.
I don't get their tact.
Why leak anything at all prior to grand jury indictments?
Are they hoping someone will break into FBI headquarters once abandoned, and break into that "secret" room?
Jeebus...
This ain't Watergate.
Posted by: MkY at July 15, 2025 12:40 PM (+Pp+Q)
164
"I don't think publicly traded companies can even delete E mails."
This is decidedly not true.
I work with a major aerospace and defense contractor and all of our emails, chat and messages get deleted after two months.
And it's a total pain in the ass. Completely removes accountability and just reinforces the power of the narrative de jour.
This is decidedly not true.
I work with a major aerospace and defense contractor and all of our emails, chat and messages get deleted after two months.
And it's a total pain in the ass. Completely removes accountability and just reinforces the power of the narrative de jour.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:40 PM (QB+5g)
165
Muenster is cheesy.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:40 PM (cn0nj)
166
45 40 Oh please, this is obvious vaporware masterbatory bullshit. Comey hid incriminating files in a ... room with a lock on the door? And we learn of this through a Joe Rogan podcast? Gimme a break.
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FBI uses a case management system called Sentinel. Normally, people can 'see' indexes of documents/numbers even if they lack the need to know for that particular document and thus cannot get access.
Unknown to almost everyone, Sentinel had a special code that allowed the 5th floor to hide the existence of documents to everyone other than those specifically handpicked to be able to access them. Both Comey and Wray kept this secret and it was only found out after Patel and his crew did some digging around to find it. Dunno if Patel suspected the existence or not.
By doing that special coding, essentially the documents were hidden to Congress, FOIA requests, judicial requests, or anyone not privy to being able to even see those particular documents existed. The only ones were cronies of Comey and Wray (mebbe Garland).
Someone had to order the Sentinel system jiggered in such as way to do that. And that would provide 'intent' if it was a direct order from Comey/Wray
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FBI uses a case management system called Sentinel. Normally, people can 'see' indexes of documents/numbers even if they lack the need to know for that particular document and thus cannot get access.
Unknown to almost everyone, Sentinel had a special code that allowed the 5th floor to hide the existence of documents to everyone other than those specifically handpicked to be able to access them. Both Comey and Wray kept this secret and it was only found out after Patel and his crew did some digging around to find it. Dunno if Patel suspected the existence or not.
By doing that special coding, essentially the documents were hidden to Congress, FOIA requests, judicial requests, or anyone not privy to being able to even see those particular documents existed. The only ones were cronies of Comey and Wray (mebbe Garland).
Someone had to order the Sentinel system jiggered in such as way to do that. And that would provide 'intent' if it was a direct order from Comey/Wray
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:40 PM (ctrM5)
167
Boy, this is exciting stuff. Who do I make my check out to?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 12:41 PM (xzkgE)
168
>>The decision not to prosecute Hillary came from Obama and Lynch, Comey does not have the authority.
Everything came from Obama. That's the point.
But it was Comey who went before the cameras in July of 2016 and said no prosecutor would take the case.
Everything came from Obama. That's the point.
But it was Comey who went before the cameras in July of 2016 and said no prosecutor would take the case.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:41 PM (viF8m)
169
Comey is the one who plays with pebbles and they just land in a particular pattern, yes ?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 12:41 PM (g47mK)
170
On a more positive note, they are releasing earlier Jet Li films on 4K later this summer. Hopefully, they are remastered. I saw them all already, but the quality of the old DVDs was questionable.
For those of you who have only seen Jet Li's more recent USA movies, you might wonder what all the hype was. His earlier Hong Kong and Chinese films -- filmed when he was considerably younger -- show what an amazing martial artist he was. He's the real deal.
For those of you who have only seen Jet Li's more recent USA movies, you might wonder what all the hype was. His earlier Hong Kong and Chinese films -- filmed when he was considerably younger -- show what an amazing martial artist he was. He's the real deal.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Cheesemonger Mario at July 15, 2025 12:42 PM (G5+As)
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164 Muenster is no Gouda.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (1F/ig)
I used to watch the Muenster's reruns after school.
Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (1F/ig)
I used to watch the Muenster's reruns after school.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 12:43 PM (xcxpd)
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Hello everyone! Hope your Tuesday afternoon is feeling more like a Friday 'round five-ish.
Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM
Friday? Why would it feel like Friday?
Uh... are you firing us??
Pssssst, Ace, if you don't fire me, I have some dirt on TJM. It involves Prometheus.
Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM
Friday? Why would it feel like Friday?
Uh... are you firing us??
Pssssst, Ace, if you don't fire me, I have some dirt on TJM. It involves Prometheus.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 12:43 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 12:43 PM (TN0g+)
175
SHUT UP THAT BLOODY BOUSOUKI!
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:43 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 12:43 PM (AOsQT)
177
Wake me when there are indictments.
Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 12:43 PM (HsIYU)
178
I swear, someone in government has been reading this blog. Because I know "deprivation of rights under color of law" has been discussed more than once.
Though, I believe a commenter at AoS has sent multiple letters to the DOJ complaining about just that.
Though, I believe a commenter at AoS has sent multiple letters to the DOJ complaining about just that.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 12:43 PM (tT6L1)
179
Meh, they will just lie about, like the congresscritter saying that Trump is Killing People By Taking Away Medicaid!
Posted by: JayInAmes at July 15, 2025 12:43 PM (OlOaW)
180
Boy, this is exciting stuff. Who do I make my check out to?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 12:41 PM (xzkgE)
Ha!
Another man with the proper level of cynicism, with a side order of sarcasm tossed in.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 12:41 PM (xzkgE)
Ha!
Another man with the proper level of cynicism, with a side order of sarcasm tossed in.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 12:44 PM (Hx0tZ)
181
My wife told me to buy Swiss cheese after I had already bought Greek cheese.
She had to accept my fetaccompli.
She had to accept my fetaccompli.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:44 PM (77rzZ)
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Yea, nothing ever happens. Just ask President Kamala.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:44 PM (viF8m)
183
Big brother grabbing your hand and saying...
SLAP
"Why are you hitting yourself?"
SLAP
"Why are you hitting yourself"
X 100 times until mom shows up.
But mom's not around here.
Big brother grabbing your hand and saying...
SLAP
"Why are you hitting yourself?"
SLAP
"Why are you hitting yourself"
X 100 times until mom shows up.
But mom's not around here.
Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2025 12:44 PM (Y8DZL)
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Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:40 PM (ctrM5)
Hey I dropped that thing in the other thread for you. The squirrel is on the fence. I repeat. The squirrel is on the fence.
Hey I dropped that thing in the other thread for you. The squirrel is on the fence. I repeat. The squirrel is on the fence.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 12:45 PM (Qr870)
185
She had to accept my fetaccompli.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:44 PM
I groaned out loud. Well done.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:44 PM
I groaned out loud. Well done.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:45 PM (jc0TO)
186
181 Ha!
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 12:45 PM (TwZXH)
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@171
>>But it was Comey who went before the cameras in July of 2016 and said no prosecutor would take the case.
Sure, he checked with his boss and she said, we ain't prosecuting, now make like the good foot soldier and tell the public.
>>But it was Comey who went before the cameras in July of 2016 and said no prosecutor would take the case.
Sure, he checked with his boss and she said, we ain't prosecuting, now make like the good foot soldier and tell the public.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:45 PM (hfKLq)
188
Those with long memories will recall the Truman White House secured all the State Department security and loyalty files and locked them up, preventing anyone in Congress from seeing just how many Communists and fellow travellers had embedded themselves like ticks in the body politic.
The FBI had done an excellent job of surveillance and building dossiers on these folks.
The Democrats turned the investigation of Communists in government - the Tydings panel mandate, instead into an investigation and an attempt to discredit of the Whistleblowers. The media for their part, did their best as well to cover up. A dirty game that has been played for 80 years now, only worse than ever.
The FBI had done an excellent job of surveillance and building dossiers on these folks.
The Democrats turned the investigation of Communists in government - the Tydings panel mandate, instead into an investigation and an attempt to discredit of the Whistleblowers. The media for their part, did their best as well to cover up. A dirty game that has been played for 80 years now, only worse than ever.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 12:45 PM (xHdZY)
189
Wake me when there are indictments.
Posted by: toddg
I had a ham sandwich for lunch yesterday. Does that count?
Posted by: toddg
I had a ham sandwich for lunch yesterday. Does that count?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
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If the current DoJ team Trump has there doesn't have some kickass IT people on their own payroll sifting through all that shit they're incompetent.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Try sometime to verify that your computers have not been infected with a trojan or malware. Same for positively vetting that someone is not an agent of a foreign power.
The deadliest sort just sits and lies there until time to do something.
Often, like the Sentinel hack, the best place for hiding something is in plain sight--the file system that everyone uses but no one suspects allows a hidden document and indexing system.
So day to day, people with access would query the Sentinel system--Inspector General, Senior FBI execs, agents, etc. and find nothing in the Sentinel system on key topics. So the assumption was nothing was there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Try sometime to verify that your computers have not been infected with a trojan or malware. Same for positively vetting that someone is not an agent of a foreign power.
The deadliest sort just sits and lies there until time to do something.
Often, like the Sentinel hack, the best place for hiding something is in plain sight--the file system that everyone uses but no one suspects allows a hidden document and indexing system.
So day to day, people with access would query the Sentinel system--Inspector General, Senior FBI execs, agents, etc. and find nothing in the Sentinel system on key topics. So the assumption was nothing was there.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:46 PM (ctrM5)
191
That might be funny if I knew what it meaned.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:46 PM (cn0nj)
192
I've been listening to this two weeks bullshit for 10 f***ing years, until indictments get handed down and I see Comey getting perp walked, it's all stray voltage and boob bait for bubba.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (hfKLq)
This^^^
I'd be shocked if anything happens. The conspiracy is pretty huge. The evidence has always been there since they did it. It goes WAY up.
It's also ongoing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (hfKLq)
This^^^
I'd be shocked if anything happens. The conspiracy is pretty huge. The evidence has always been there since they did it. It goes WAY up.
It's also ongoing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 12:46 PM (lPvx2)
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 12:46 PM (AOsQT)
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>>Sure, he checked with his boss and she said, we ain't prosecuting, now make like the good foot soldier and tell the public.
Yes, but the point is his boss was Obama.
People keep talking about Brennan and Comey but none of this would have happened if it weren't for the mocha messiah being in the White House. He authorized all of it.
Yes, but the point is his boss was Obama.
People keep talking about Brennan and Comey but none of this would have happened if it weren't for the mocha messiah being in the White House. He authorized all of it.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:47 PM (viF8m)
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Muenster is no Gouda.
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I cheddar to think where this is going
Posted by: Don Black
I don't hive edam.
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I cheddar to think where this is going
Posted by: Don Black
I don't hive edam.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 12:47 PM (4IClK)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:47 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 12:47 PM (Qr870)
198
...Someone had to order the Sentinel system jiggered in such as way to do that. And that would provide 'intent' if it was a direct order from Comey/Wray
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:40 PM (ctrM5)
Whig, you're an absolute treasure.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:40 PM (ctrM5)
Whig, you're an absolute treasure.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2025 12:48 PM (0CU3H)
199
I would much prefer Trump just come out and say "look, we're not going to win against the Deep State. I'm going to do what I can while in office, but if we open any number of cans of worms, it will be a full out war in DC, and we'll get nothing done."
This "don't believe your lying eyes and ears, LOOK - Squirrel!" stuff is insulting to our intelligence.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (uCjyK)
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Oh c'mon. I hesitate to believe that you really mean that. We all know its a mess, with way too many bad actors in and around DC. Did Trump and Co completely screw up the Epstein files. Yes. SO they get to pay for that for awhile. I am interested in Dershowitz's comments. I want to know more about what happened at pedo island. I also understand that some of this stuff probably cannot be released. Trump should have been more circumspect. Bondi as well.
I fully understand that doing anything to deepstaters is a shot in the dark. I even appreciate the fact this release might be to counter the blowback on Epstein. But I also know there were rumblings on this well before the current Epstein blow up. And I have am sure finding where everything is hiding is no easy task.
This "don't believe your lying eyes and ears, LOOK - Squirrel!" stuff is insulting to our intelligence.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:20 PM (uCjyK)
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Oh c'mon. I hesitate to believe that you really mean that. We all know its a mess, with way too many bad actors in and around DC. Did Trump and Co completely screw up the Epstein files. Yes. SO they get to pay for that for awhile. I am interested in Dershowitz's comments. I want to know more about what happened at pedo island. I also understand that some of this stuff probably cannot be released. Trump should have been more circumspect. Bondi as well.
I fully understand that doing anything to deepstaters is a shot in the dark. I even appreciate the fact this release might be to counter the blowback on Epstein. But I also know there were rumblings on this well before the current Epstein blow up. And I have am sure finding where everything is hiding is no easy task.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:48 PM (GZYu7)
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"Someone had to order the Sentinel system jiggered in such as way to do that. And that would provide 'intent' if it was a direct order from Comey/Wray"
I wonder if there is a paper trail of authorizations for this change?
That would make some people very, very uncomfortable and probably talkative.
I wonder if there is a paper trail of authorizations for this change?
That would make some people very, very uncomfortable and probably talkative.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:48 PM (QB+5g)
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192 Russiagate seems like ancient history, and less spectacular than the scandals that followed.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 12:48 PM (TwZXH)
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I saw Boob Bait for Bubba open for the Bangles in '88.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:49 PM (77rzZ)
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I've been listening to this two weeks bullshit for 10 f***ing years, until indictments get handed down and I see Comey getting perp walked, it's all stray voltage and boob bait for bubba.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (hfKLq)
This^^^
I'd be shocked if anything happens. The conspiracy is pretty huge. The evidence has always been there since they did it. It goes WAY up.
It's also ongoing.
Posted by: Reforger
It would topple the government, plunge the markets into chaos, and usher in a worldwide depression to arrest one individual over this.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:39 PM (hfKLq)
This^^^
I'd be shocked if anything happens. The conspiracy is pretty huge. The evidence has always been there since they did it. It goes WAY up.
It's also ongoing.
Posted by: Reforger
It would topple the government, plunge the markets into chaos, and usher in a worldwide depression to arrest one individual over this.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 12:49 PM (4IClK)
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Wake me when there are indictments.
Posted by: toddg
I had a ham sandwich for lunch yesterday. Does that count?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
No. You allowed the guilty to escape justice.
You should be in the cell next to that Milwaukee judge.
Posted by: toddg
I had a ham sandwich for lunch yesterday. Does that count?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
No. You allowed the guilty to escape justice.
You should be in the cell next to that Milwaukee judge.
Posted by: DA angry that another got away and wants Deli's banned at July 15, 2025 12:49 PM (Hx0tZ)
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And I have am sure finding where everything is hiding is no easy task.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:48 PM (GZYu7)
It's always in the last place I look.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:48 PM (GZYu7)
It's always in the last place I look.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:49 PM (MGB5H)
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Yes, but the point is his boss was Obama.
People keep talking about Brennan and Comey but none of this would have happened if it weren't for the mocha messiah being in the White House. He authorized all of it.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:47 PM (viF8m)
Do you really believe that? Because I don't believe that.
I think we're nibbling around the edges of something that is fairly apparent from history -- the "Blob" as Obama's team called them (or "Deep State" if you prefer the older term) seem to run most of the day to day in the government.
I don't think Barry called up Comey on the phone to order him around. I think it all happened behind the scenes, and Obama had nothing to do with it, and it would have played out the way it did regardless of who the president at the time was.
Which just seems to be how it works in DC. And many people seem to be a-okay with that.
For example, we had a brain dead vegetable as our most recent president. Something tells me he wasn't a grand chess master moving the pieces around. Ya know?
People keep talking about Brennan and Comey but none of this would have happened if it weren't for the mocha messiah being in the White House. He authorized all of it.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:47 PM (viF8m)
Do you really believe that? Because I don't believe that.
I think we're nibbling around the edges of something that is fairly apparent from history -- the "Blob" as Obama's team called them (or "Deep State" if you prefer the older term) seem to run most of the day to day in the government.
I don't think Barry called up Comey on the phone to order him around. I think it all happened behind the scenes, and Obama had nothing to do with it, and it would have played out the way it did regardless of who the president at the time was.
Which just seems to be how it works in DC. And many people seem to be a-okay with that.
For example, we had a brain dead vegetable as our most recent president. Something tells me he wasn't a grand chess master moving the pieces around. Ya know?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (uCjyK)
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I don't care how many fake files are found in fake rooms. We're just getting jerked off and fingered and fluffy feathers fondling our assholes. Enough. No good will ever come of going around and around and around with this bullshit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
It was Chicago or some other blue hellhole that had a locked room in city hall full of "gifts" that couldn't be accepted but weren't thrown away. So, basically a treasure vault. Having heard about that, I can believe the FBI's fake room full of files.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
It was Chicago or some other blue hellhole that had a locked room in city hall full of "gifts" that couldn't be accepted but weren't thrown away. So, basically a treasure vault. Having heard about that, I can believe the FBI's fake room full of files.
Posted by: pookysgirl thinks life is imitating video games too well at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (Wt5PA)
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"A vault? Where's Jeraldo?" Carry on.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (QSrLX)
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It's always in the last place I look.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:49 PM (MGB5H)
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Unless one keeps looking.......
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:49 PM (MGB5H)
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Unless one keeps looking.......
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (tT6L1)
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All the cheese puns and requisite Monty Python references having been made, I'll observe from here.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Y. Berra
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Y. Berra
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (wVcYX)
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Can the Fluoride be getting out of the slaves drinking water?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (cn0nj)
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I'd say you can't fire me, I quit, but I can't quit you. (sobs)
I'd say you can't fire me, I quit, but I can't quit you. (sobs)
Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2025 12:51 PM (Y8DZL)
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No whey can I handle more cheese puns. I'm out.
Posted by: Ms. Muffet at July 15, 2025 12:51 PM (G5+As)
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that was Chicago, pookysgirl
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 12:51 PM (dKEEs)
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It was Chicago or some other blue hellhole that had a locked room in city hall full of "gifts" that couldn't be accepted but weren't thrown away. So, basically a treasure vault. Having heard about that, I can believe the FBI's fake room full of files.
Posted by: pookysgirl thinks life is imitating video games too well at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (Wt5PA)
Yes Chicago. It was Conehead Johnson's illegal gift room.
Posted by: pookysgirl thinks life is imitating video games too well at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (Wt5PA)
Yes Chicago. It was Conehead Johnson's illegal gift room.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:52 PM (MGB5H)
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All the cheese puns and requisite Monty Python references having been made, I'll observe from here.
So much of this feels like The Natural Cheese Emporium.
I want to just cut to 'Do you, in fact, have any indictments at all?'
So much of this feels like The Natural Cheese Emporium.
I want to just cut to 'Do you, in fact, have any indictments at all?'
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:52 PM (jc0TO)
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No whey can I handle more cheese puns. I'm out.
Posted by: Ms. Muffet at July 15, 2025 12:51 PM (G5+As)
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Yo, what’s in the bowl, bitch?
Posted by: Ms. Muffet at July 15, 2025 12:51 PM (G5+As)
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Yo, what’s in the bowl, bitch?
Posted by: A Spider at July 15, 2025 12:53 PM (u73oe)
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@194
>>Yes, but the point is his boss was Obama.
Obama will never be the subject of any investigation.
The fact that the administration is making public statements and acknowledgments about this means it's for show and not real action.
When the Russia hoaxers and couspirators talked, it was followed up with indictments soon after.
I'll be charitable and give the administration until the fall, if there are no indictments then it's all bullsh*t.
>>Yes, but the point is his boss was Obama.
Obama will never be the subject of any investigation.
The fact that the administration is making public statements and acknowledgments about this means it's for show and not real action.
When the Russia hoaxers and couspirators talked, it was followed up with indictments soon after.
I'll be charitable and give the administration until the fall, if there are no indictments then it's all bullsh*t.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 12:53 PM (hfKLq)
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Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
Lara Trump reveals that not a single member of the Trump family has been briefed on the would-be assassin Thomas Crooks:
“None of us have been briefed. He doesn’t want to think or know more about it. He boxes it away.. So he can focus on taking this country back.”
https://tinyurl.com/48mvz5u6
@bennyjohnson
Lara Trump reveals that not a single member of the Trump family has been briefed on the would-be assassin Thomas Crooks:
“None of us have been briefed. He doesn’t want to think or know more about it. He boxes it away.. So he can focus on taking this country back.”
https://tinyurl.com/48mvz5u6
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 12:53 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:53 PM (PzXaK)
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>>Russiagate seems like ancient history, and less spectacular than the scandals that followed.
It's all part of the same conspiracy. From Russia to Ukraine to lawfare to the raid at Mar A Lago. They all had the same goal, get rid of Trump and America First.
https://tinyurl.com/3skxfu7b
It's all part of the same conspiracy. From Russia to Ukraine to lawfare to the raid at Mar A Lago. They all had the same goal, get rid of Trump and America First.
https://tinyurl.com/3skxfu7b
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:53 PM (viF8m)
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Quit the shit posting.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (QB+5g)
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It was Chicago or some other blue hellhole that had a locked room in city hall full of "gifts" that couldn't be accepted but weren't thrown away. So, basically a treasure vault. Having heard about that, I can believe the FBI's fake room full of files.
Posted by: pookysgirl thinks life is imitating video games too well at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (Wt5PA)
Yes Chicago. It was Conehead Johnson's illegal gift room.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:52 PM (MGB5H)
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Yea. And absolutely nothing happened. Caught red handed. Nothing happened.
Posted by: pookysgirl thinks life is imitating video games too well at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (Wt5PA)
Yes Chicago. It was Conehead Johnson's illegal gift room.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:52 PM (MGB5H)
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Yea. And absolutely nothing happened. Caught red handed. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't think Barry called up Comey on the phone to order him around. I think it all happened behind the scenes, and Obama had nothing to do with it, and it would have played out the way it did regardless of who the president at the time was.
Which just seems to be how it works in DC. And many people seem to be a-okay with that.
For example, we had a brain dead vegetable as our most recent president. Something tells me he wasn't a grand chess master moving the pieces around. Ya know?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (uCjyK)
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Yet Trump has been suspiciously not that type of president. He has fought the bureaucracy and the black robes and won way more than he has lost. He has fought the monied interests involved in a porous southern border. He has upset the international money launderers by reintroducing tariffs without missing a beat. He has begun wiping out the democrat governmental grift game that USAID was playing in.
I expect there to be fuck ups. Nothing has been to that level yet to make him just another complaint chief executive.
Which just seems to be how it works in DC. And many people seem to be a-okay with that.
For example, we had a brain dead vegetable as our most recent president. Something tells me he wasn't a grand chess master moving the pieces around. Ya know?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (uCjyK)
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Yet Trump has been suspiciously not that type of president. He has fought the bureaucracy and the black robes and won way more than he has lost. He has fought the monied interests involved in a porous southern border. He has upset the international money launderers by reintroducing tariffs without missing a beat. He has begun wiping out the democrat governmental grift game that USAID was playing in.
I expect there to be fuck ups. Nothing has been to that level yet to make him just another complaint chief executive.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (GZYu7)
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222 Quit the shit posting.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (QB+5g)
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Might as well tell me to stop breathing!
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (QB+5g)
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Might as well tell me to stop breathing!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
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It was Chicago or some other blue hellhole that had a locked room in city hall full of "gifts" that couldn't be accepted but weren't thrown away. So, basically a treasure vault. Having heard about that, I can believe the FBI's fake room full of files.
Posted by: pookysgirl thinks life is imitating video games too well at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (Wt5PA)
Yes Chicago. It was Conehead Johnson's illegal gift room.
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Full-blown grifting operation exposed, and ZERO indictments by the city, state, and Feds.
Posted by: pookysgirl thinks life is imitating video games too well at July 15, 2025 12:50 PM (Wt5PA)
Yes Chicago. It was Conehead Johnson's illegal gift room.
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Full-blown grifting operation exposed, and ZERO indictments by the city, state, and Feds.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (TN0g+)
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Oh c'mon. I hesitate to believe that you really mean that.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:48 PM (GZYu7)
Don't believe what? Kash Patel went on Rogan to soft launch the "there is nothing in the Epstein files" to Rogan and his audience, many of whom were deeply interested in the Epstein files.
Rogan pushed Patel on Epstein, Patel couldn't or wouldn't answer anything. He kept saying some variation of "do you think I, Kash Patel, the Russiagate guy, would lie?!?" whenever confronted.
In that same interview, Patel couldn't wait to talk about secret vaults at the FBI, but he couldn't give any details.
Now here we are.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:48 PM (GZYu7)
Don't believe what? Kash Patel went on Rogan to soft launch the "there is nothing in the Epstein files" to Rogan and his audience, many of whom were deeply interested in the Epstein files.
Rogan pushed Patel on Epstein, Patel couldn't or wouldn't answer anything. He kept saying some variation of "do you think I, Kash Patel, the Russiagate guy, would lie?!?" whenever confronted.
In that same interview, Patel couldn't wait to talk about secret vaults at the FBI, but he couldn't give any details.
Now here we are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (uCjyK)
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"90% of the politicians in DC were in on the Russiagate. They all knew it was BS yet kept up the narrative.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (Vh9CX)
But I was told conspiracies don't happen?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes"
Is it a conspiracy if everybody is in on it? The only people that didn't seem to know were the gullible Dem base.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2025 12:33 PM (Vh9CX)
But I was told conspiracies don't happen?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes"
Is it a conspiracy if everybody is in on it? The only people that didn't seem to know were the gullible Dem base.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (GUOwU)
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Quit the shit posting.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (QB+5g)
Would those be shit pellets or something else?
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (QB+5g)
Would those be shit pellets or something else?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:55 PM (PzXaK)
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And now a message from the National Cheddar Association:
Fuck Brie.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:53 PM (PzXaK)
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"You guys just like my ass"
-- Brie Larson
Fuck Brie.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:53 PM (PzXaK)
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"You guys just like my ass"
-- Brie Larson
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
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All I know of Patel is that he was instrumental in helping Devin Nunes uncover that conspiracy implemented by the Hillary Campaign, the DOJ, the FBI and the Obama White House to frame Trump as a Russian agent in 2016.
If it weren't for those two men, Trump likely would've been impeached instead of Mueller & Co. walking away leaving nothing but a exonerating report and a pissed off Andrew Weissman.
It would've probably taken years before we found out some of the major details about Crossfire Hurricane without Nunes & Patel doing the leg work to get documents subpoenaed and declassified.
So Trump trusts Patel because of all of that and everything else Patel's done for MAGA since Trump's first term.
Is he going to be perfect as FBI director?
Probably not, nobody is perfect.
But he's a lot better than a Comey or Wray any day of the week in my eyes.
Let's hope he and Bongino are on to the entire truth now and we can finally get a real accounting here.
I've wanted all of it out in sunlight since John Durham couldn't get it done and I'd had high hopes for that investigation, only to be extremely disappointed, again.
If it weren't for those two men, Trump likely would've been impeached instead of Mueller & Co. walking away leaving nothing but a exonerating report and a pissed off Andrew Weissman.
It would've probably taken years before we found out some of the major details about Crossfire Hurricane without Nunes & Patel doing the leg work to get documents subpoenaed and declassified.
So Trump trusts Patel because of all of that and everything else Patel's done for MAGA since Trump's first term.
Is he going to be perfect as FBI director?
Probably not, nobody is perfect.
But he's a lot better than a Comey or Wray any day of the week in my eyes.
Let's hope he and Bongino are on to the entire truth now and we can finally get a real accounting here.
I've wanted all of it out in sunlight since John Durham couldn't get it done and I'd had high hopes for that investigation, only to be extremely disappointed, again.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 12:55 PM (6ydKt)
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I expect there to be fuck ups. Nothing has been to that level yet to make him just another complaint chief executive.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (GZYu7)
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Compliant - ugh. I send myself to the posting corner.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (GZYu7)
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Compliant - ugh. I send myself to the posting corner.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:55 PM (GZYu7)
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Obviously the DUmmies are going to howl at the injustice of Democrats being called to account. Because those dolts will see it as "weaponization of government."
Sort of interesting Bondi fired the ethics counselor at the DOJ. Needed to be done, though, because whoever they are, they should have been screaming long and loud about how J6'ers were handled, for instance.
Sort of interesting Bondi fired the ethics counselor at the DOJ. Needed to be done, though, because whoever they are, they should have been screaming long and loud about how J6'ers were handled, for instance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 12:56 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: toby928 spluttering at July 15, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
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98 Obama crawling out of his hole to exhort the Dems toward greater violence is related.
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Yeah, Barry is a warrior.
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Let's you and him fight!
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Yeah, Barry is a warrior.
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Let's you and him fight!
Posted by: Barry Obama, Tough Guy at July 15, 2025 12:57 PM (Dv3i1)
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233 Obviously the DUmmies are going to howl at the injustice of Democrats being called to account. Because those dolts will see it as "weaponization of government."
Sort of interesting Bondi fired the ethics counselor at the DOJ. Needed to be done, though, because whoever they are, they should have been screaming long and loud about how J6'ers were handled, for instance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 12:56 PM (tT6L1)
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"Government shouldn't be weaponized against the unaccountable bureaucracy. It should be weaponized against the people. For democracy."
-DU, 99.999993% probability
Sort of interesting Bondi fired the ethics counselor at the DOJ. Needed to be done, though, because whoever they are, they should have been screaming long and loud about how J6'ers were handled, for instance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 12:56 PM (tT6L1)
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"Government shouldn't be weaponized against the unaccountable bureaucracy. It should be weaponized against the people. For democracy."
-DU, 99.999993% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
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And the Epstein client list will miraculously appear right after Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strozk and Page are frog marched through DC; it will be trailing behind them like a Chinese Paper Mache Dragon.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (Da7Vv)
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235 98 Obama crawling out of his hole to exhort the Dems toward greater violence is related.
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Yeah, Barry is a warrior.
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Let's you and him fight!
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Is it okay to beat fagz? Aren't they protected?
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Yeah, Barry is a warrior.
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Let's you and him fight!
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Is it okay to beat fagz? Aren't they protected?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (W3T6M)
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Obama learned the ways of the warrior during his childhood in Kenya.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (PzXaK)
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196 Morons who love mayhem will love this
Posted by: Don Black
We all love our Uppity Wench.
Posted by: Bulg
What about Insufferable Wenches? They're a radical Lefty group in Iowa. https://insufferablewenches.org
One of the founders is running for a State rep spot and is kinda cute...https://tinyurl.com/ykrwkp9e
Posted by: Don Black
We all love our Uppity Wench.
Posted by: Bulg
What about Insufferable Wenches? They're a radical Lefty group in Iowa. https://insufferablewenches.org
One of the founders is running for a State rep spot and is kinda cute...https://tinyurl.com/ykrwkp9e
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (JCZqz)
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>>Obama will never be the subject of any investigation.
No, probably not. And I won't get that pony. Ever.
But exposing what has been going on and who did it has its own value. Many, probably most, on the left still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016. Breaking them and stopping this insanity by exposing the truth is important.
We've come an amazing distance fighting against a corrupt and morally bankrupt government when many said we could never win but we haven't won it all yet.
Never stop fighting until the fight is won.
No, probably not. And I won't get that pony. Ever.
But exposing what has been going on and who did it has its own value. Many, probably most, on the left still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016. Breaking them and stopping this insanity by exposing the truth is important.
We've come an amazing distance fighting against a corrupt and morally bankrupt government when many said we could never win but we haven't won it all yet.
Never stop fighting until the fight is won.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (viF8m)
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237 And the Epstein client list will miraculously appear right after Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strozk and Page are frog marched through DC; it will be trailing behind them like a Chinese Paper Mache Dragon.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (Da7Vv)
Yes, exactly how I picture it.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (Da7Vv)
Yes, exactly how I picture it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (uCjyK)
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Barky leading from behind
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (+qU29)
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235 98 Obama crawling out of his hole to exhort the Dems toward greater violence is related.
They need more violence ?
They need more violence ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (VE6XX)
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But exposing what has been going on and who did it has its own value. Many, probably most, on the left still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016. Breaking them and stopping this insanity by exposing the truth is important
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60% on the left still believe Russia collusion.
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60% on the left still believe Russia collusion.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (Dv3i1)
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Don't believe what? Kash Patel went on Rogan to soft launch the "there is nothing in the Epstein files" to Rogan and his audience, many of whom were deeply interested in the Epstein files.
Rogan pushed Patel on Epstein, Patel couldn't or wouldn't answer anything. He kept saying some variation of "do you think I, Kash Patel, the Russiagate guy, would lie?!?" whenever confronted.
In that same interview, Patel couldn't wait to talk about secret vaults at the FBI, but he couldn't give any details.
Now here we are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (uCjyK)
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You really want Trump to just come out and give it all up and say I'll nibble where I can, but you will just have to live with it?
That's what you said. I don't believe you mean that.
Rogan pushed Patel on Epstein, Patel couldn't or wouldn't answer anything. He kept saying some variation of "do you think I, Kash Patel, the Russiagate guy, would lie?!?" whenever confronted.
In that same interview, Patel couldn't wait to talk about secret vaults at the FBI, but he couldn't give any details.
Now here we are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:54 PM (uCjyK)
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You really want Trump to just come out and give it all up and say I'll nibble where I can, but you will just have to live with it?
That's what you said. I don't believe you mean that.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (GZYu7)
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I'm sure "no reasonable prosecutor" would go after James Comey. Let's hope the DoJ finds a few MAGA lunatics.
I'm sure "no reasonable prosecutor" would go after James Comey. Let's hope the DoJ finds a few MAGA lunatics.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 01:00 PM (xp7+v)
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And good morning!
And good morning!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 01:00 PM (xp7+v)
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Mayhem?
I hardly knew hem.
I hardly knew hem.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 01:00 PM (j41FZ)
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>>I've wanted all of it out in sunlight since John Durham couldn't get it done and I'd had high hopes for that investigation, only to be extremely disappointed, again.
Read the link I posted to Solomon's initial article on this investigation. Durham did expose it but it was deemed classified and never released to the public.
Read the link I posted to Solomon's initial article on this investigation. Durham did expose it but it was deemed classified and never released to the public.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:00 PM (viF8m)
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Obama will be leading the Dem cannon fodder to the ramparts from his bunker on Martha Vineyard.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (GUOwU)
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One of the founders is running for a State rep spot and is kinda cute...https://tinyurl.com/ykrwkp9e
Posted by: Moron Analyst
Wow, a lefty woman who smiles, and has normal-colored hair and no visible tats or weird piercings. She is cute.
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Moron Analyst
Wow, a lefty woman who smiles, and has normal-colored hair and no visible tats or weird piercings. She is cute.
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)
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At some point I started having the vision of a hand-picked crew of Feebers wandering around the J Edgar Hoover building with a floor map. measuring tapes and geological hammers to see if there were any hidden space built into walls or closets.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (D7oie)
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253 Wow, a lefty woman who smiles, and has normal-colored hair and no visible tats or weird piercings. She is cute.
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)
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Give her a fake number with 6 digits?
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)
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Give her a fake number with 6 digits?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
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One of the founders is running for a State rep spot and is kinda cute...https://tinyurl.com/ykrwkp9e
Posted by: Moron Analyst
Wow, a lefty woman who smiles, and has normal-colored hair and no visible tats or weird piercings. She is cute.
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)
Nose ring.
Posted by: Moron Analyst
Wow, a lefty woman who smiles, and has normal-colored hair and no visible tats or weird piercings. She is cute.
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)
Nose ring.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:02 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:02 PM (77rzZ)
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Al Capone's lockbox!
Al Capone's lockbox!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2025 01:02 PM (P39W5)
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At some point I started having the vision of a hand-picked crew of Feebers wandering around the J Edgar Hoover building with a floor map. measuring tapes and geological hammers to see if there were any hidden space built into walls or closets.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM
Set up neutrino detectors in the basement.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM
Set up neutrino detectors in the basement.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:02 PM (jc0TO)
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You really want Trump to just come out and give it all up and say I'll nibble where I can, but you will just have to live with it?
That's what you said. I don't believe you mean that.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (GZYu7)
Epstein was the most low hanging fruit of everything involving the Deep State. It was right in front of the entire nation's eyes.
If he's not willing to open the books completely on that, then we deserve an answer. If it is because he can't take on the Deep State (which is what people mean when they say "the world will end if this list comes out!"), then I'd rather him say that then have his people lie through their teeth to me.
That's what you said. I don't believe you mean that.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (GZYu7)
Epstein was the most low hanging fruit of everything involving the Deep State. It was right in front of the entire nation's eyes.
If he's not willing to open the books completely on that, then we deserve an answer. If it is because he can't take on the Deep State (which is what people mean when they say "the world will end if this list comes out!"), then I'd rather him say that then have his people lie through their teeth to me.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:03 PM (uCjyK)
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Love to see Schiff indicted for mortgage fraud and offered a deal as long as squeels on the 1/6 committee. Do the same thing with a couple of mid-level conspirators at the DoJ and FBI and see what shakes out.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 01:03 PM (volu5)
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But exposing what has been going on and who did it has its own value. Many, probably most, on the left still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016. Breaking them and stopping this insanity by exposing the truth is important.
We've come an amazing distance fighting against a corrupt and morally bankrupt government when many said we could never win but we haven't won it all yet.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (viF8m)
Gotta disagree with the premise that you can break them from believing obvious bullshit. You can't.
You can show them proof after verified proof on any number of subjects and if it in any way harkens back to any plausible political motivation, they WILL NOT listen.
We've come an amazing distance fighting against a corrupt and morally bankrupt government when many said we could never win but we haven't won it all yet.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:58 PM (viF8m)
Gotta disagree with the premise that you can break them from believing obvious bullshit. You can't.
You can show them proof after verified proof on any number of subjects and if it in any way harkens back to any plausible political motivation, they WILL NOT listen.
Posted by: I'm just a OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (Hx0tZ)
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Is there a special prosecutor coming for Epstein Folders?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (cn0nj)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (77rzZ)
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Ellipsis,
I can see where you argue that Zimmerman was railroaded by Bondi but with the above recent WND link and this one, it strikes me as boilerplate garbage often said in controversial cases. Scott (probably under Bondi's advice) actually picked Angela Corey and praised her to the heavens in order to forestall racial unrest imho.
And I think some of the bloviating by Bondi about the family was as much to prevent unrest (Florida has had some devastating race riots--Liberty City, etc.) over the years and I am sure both Scott and Bondi had no desire for Crump to manufacture such in the Tampa Bay area.
Something similar caused Kemp to do something similar in the Arberry case and there has been other hot potato cases where special prosecutors were picked like the Smollett cases etc.
The most serious charge for Bondi in Zimmerman was if she abetted the trial judge and the Crump faction in the substitution of Trayvon's girlfriend for the trial. The author wrote a whole book about it but nothing has been done really about the situation to formally adjudge whether this assertion is true or not. So again, a legal system we have, not a justice system.
I can see where you argue that Zimmerman was railroaded by Bondi but with the above recent WND link and this one, it strikes me as boilerplate garbage often said in controversial cases. Scott (probably under Bondi's advice) actually picked Angela Corey and praised her to the heavens in order to forestall racial unrest imho.
And I think some of the bloviating by Bondi about the family was as much to prevent unrest (Florida has had some devastating race riots--Liberty City, etc.) over the years and I am sure both Scott and Bondi had no desire for Crump to manufacture such in the Tampa Bay area.
Something similar caused Kemp to do something similar in the Arberry case and there has been other hot potato cases where special prosecutors were picked like the Smollett cases etc.
The most serious charge for Bondi in Zimmerman was if she abetted the trial judge and the Crump faction in the substitution of Trayvon's girlfriend for the trial. The author wrote a whole book about it but nothing has been done really about the situation to formally adjudge whether this assertion is true or not. So again, a legal system we have, not a justice system.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
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If the Administration didn't want us talking about Epstein then they shouldn't have brought the subject up to begin with.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (jc0TO)
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"Sort of interesting Bondi fired the ethics counselor at the DOJ."
What does an ethics counselor do around the office? Wait for folks to walk in with ethics questions? Exhort them to Be Ethical? Arrange door prizes for the Ethics Day celebration?
What does an ethics counselor do around the office? Wait for folks to walk in with ethics questions? Exhort them to Be Ethical? Arrange door prizes for the Ethics Day celebration?
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (TwZXH)
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262 Gotta disagree with the premise that you can break them from believing obvious bullshit. You can't.
You can show them proof after verified proof on any number of subjects and if it in any way harkens back to any plausible political motivation, they WILL NOT listen.
Posted by: I'm just a OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (Hx0tZ)
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"If this were true, the NYT would have written it."
*shows them the page 17 in Metro article that says it*
"Well, the NYT is owned by a corporation anyway, and they can't be trusted."
You can show them proof after verified proof on any number of subjects and if it in any way harkens back to any plausible political motivation, they WILL NOT listen.
Posted by: I'm just a OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (Hx0tZ)
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"If this were true, the NYT would have written it."
*shows them the page 17 in Metro article that says it*
"Well, the NYT is owned by a corporation anyway, and they can't be trusted."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)
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But exposing what has been going on and who did it has its own value. Many, probably most, on the left still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016. Breaking them and stopping this insanity by exposing the truth is important
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60% on the left still believe Russia collusion.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (MGB5H)
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They also believe in global warming, unicorn farts, that Big Mike is sexy, and that rando peace-loving "Palestinians" should be free from the river to the sea, whichever river and sea they might be talking about.
I don't think educating the retarded and uneducateable is a worthy goal. I do think exposing leftwing crimes is. My beef with this (as I express above) is that we are endlessly promised investigations and prosecutions when we all know damn well it ain't never gonna happen.
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60% on the left still believe Russia collusion.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:59 PM (MGB5H)
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They also believe in global warming, unicorn farts, that Big Mike is sexy, and that rando peace-loving "Palestinians" should be free from the river to the sea, whichever river and sea they might be talking about.
I don't think educating the retarded and uneducateable is a worthy goal. I do think exposing leftwing crimes is. My beef with this (as I express above) is that we are endlessly promised investigations and prosecutions when we all know damn well it ain't never gonna happen.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:05 PM (iFTx/)
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The ethics counselor mostly reads Kant all day
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 01:05 PM (Qr870)
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You can show them proof after verified proof on any number of subjects and if it in any way harkens back to any plausible political motivation, they WILL NOT listen.
Posted by: I'm just a OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (Hx0tZ)
Agreed, which is why it would have been nice if the Epstein files were released, since it is much less political and much more child rapey, something that I think most reasonable people are against.
Even if we can prove Comey bent the rules a bit to stop "threat to our democracy" Trump, I don't think that opens anyones eyes to anything or changes any minds.
In fact, I think most of the D voters would say "good. He's a true patriot."
Posted by: I'm just a OneEyedJack at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (Hx0tZ)
Agreed, which is why it would have been nice if the Epstein files were released, since it is much less political and much more child rapey, something that I think most reasonable people are against.
Even if we can prove Comey bent the rules a bit to stop "threat to our democracy" Trump, I don't think that opens anyones eyes to anything or changes any minds.
In fact, I think most of the D voters would say "good. He's a true patriot."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:05 PM (uCjyK)
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So day to day, people with access would query the Sentinel system--Inspector General, Senior FBI execs, agents, etc. and find nothing in the Sentinel system on key topics. So the assumption was nothing was there.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:46 PM (ctrM5)
I used to work in an XRay library for a hospital, back before they digitized everything, physical film and files. The best place to hide something is in a folder, filed correctly in the stacks with no reference in the master file. No one cares to look, no one pays attention to it, and no one can find it without the file number, which doesn't exist in the master file.
Oh, and there is restricted access that prevents browsing.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:46 PM (ctrM5)
I used to work in an XRay library for a hospital, back before they digitized everything, physical film and files. The best place to hide something is in a folder, filed correctly in the stacks with no reference in the master file. No one cares to look, no one pays attention to it, and no one can find it without the file number, which doesn't exist in the master file.
Oh, and there is restricted access that prevents browsing.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:06 PM (D7oie)
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If you would have told me in Jan 2020 we would be here arguing in 2025 that President Trump wasn't going far enough into stuff I've wanted done for years... I'd have laughed. I thought for sure with Jan 6 he was defeated. "Going to jail" as my MiL has said for 10 years.
It's frustrating, sort of, but what he has done so far is awesome.
I'll take what wins we can get. We are in a much better place than we would be with Kamala.
It's frustrating, sort of, but what he has done so far is awesome.
I'll take what wins we can get. We are in a much better place than we would be with Kamala.
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 01:06 PM (lPvx2)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:06 PM (jc0TO)
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Probability of anyone who richly deserves to be arrested, actually being arrested -infinity. This is chumming the water to get the base roiled up. At the last second as the prosecutors are before the grand jury, the J6 bomber will appear and frighten everyone away with a piece of plumbing pipe full of White House Cocaine, some wires and a cooking timer.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 15, 2025 01:06 PM (Da7Vv)
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270 Now that's earning money the hard way!
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:06 PM (TwZXH)
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263 Is there a special prosecutor coming for Epstein Folders?
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Eh, we find out when we find out.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Eh, we find out when we find out.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)
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What does an ethics counselor do around the office? Wait for folks to walk in with ethics questions? Exhort them to Be Ethical? Arrange door prizes for the Ethics Day celebration?
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (TwZXH)
Sing "physical" but replace with "ethical'
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (TwZXH)
Sing "physical" but replace with "ethical'
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (MGB5H)
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John Solomon is a goofball and deepstate tool and simp.
He's been churning out deep state bullsh*t for a decade.
He's been churning out deep state bullsh*t for a decade.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (hfKLq)
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (TN0g+)
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>>Gotta disagree with the premise that you can break them from believing obvious bullshit. You can't.
There will always be a handful of retards, but even if we get 20% of them to realize they've been played that is a big number.
Elections aren't won by 50 points and right now the left is reeling much worse than the media will admit. They are literally running a communist for mayor of NYC and the party is pooping themselves.
Moar.
There will always be a handful of retards, but even if we get 20% of them to realize they've been played that is a big number.
Elections aren't won by 50 points and right now the left is reeling much worse than the media will admit. They are literally running a communist for mayor of NYC and the party is pooping themselves.
Moar.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (viF8m)
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What does an ethics counselor do around the office? Wait for folks to walk in with ethics questions? Exhort them to Be Ethical? Arrange door prizes for the Ethics Day celebration?
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (TwZXH)
It's the DOJ. I imagine she's there to help attorneys with legal ethics questions.
Which come up a lot. Law firms usually have a senior partner or an outside company (or if they're big enough, an in house person) that you can call and speak with if you're not sure if you're potentially going to be violating Rule 1.7 about conflicts or whatever if you do xyz.
Fairly routine stuff.
That said, it's also possible I'm completely wrong and it was a fake job.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (TwZXH)
It's the DOJ. I imagine she's there to help attorneys with legal ethics questions.
Which come up a lot. Law firms usually have a senior partner or an outside company (or if they're big enough, an in house person) that you can call and speak with if you're not sure if you're potentially going to be violating Rule 1.7 about conflicts or whatever if you do xyz.
Fairly routine stuff.
That said, it's also possible I'm completely wrong and it was a fake job.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:08 PM (uCjyK)
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Nose ring.
Side or septum? I can tolerate the former, barely, if it's discreet.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:06 PM (jc0TO)
She had a side hoop. Side stud is better.
Side or septum? I can tolerate the former, barely, if it's discreet.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:06 PM (jc0TO)
She had a side hoop. Side stud is better.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:08 PM (MGB5H)
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Nose ring.
Side or septum? I can tolerate the former, barely, if it's discreet.
Posted by: toby928
Side. It's hard to see on the photo, without enlarging it, but it's there.
Side or septum? I can tolerate the former, barely, if it's discreet.
Posted by: toby928
Side. It's hard to see on the photo, without enlarging it, but it's there.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:08 PM (77rzZ)
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Read the link I posted to Solomon's initial article on this investigation. Durham did expose it but it was deemed classified and never released to the public.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:00 PM (viF8m)
I read the article the other day.
But I'm talking about prosecutions and evidence against the top of the chain.
He got that one kid Kilnesmith for changing the email from the CIA and that was it.
Strzok, Page, McCade, Comey, Clapper, Brennan haven't really been touched.
I'm not blaming Durham, he hit the brick wall of Fortress DC like everybody else.
I doubt he got access to the 'secret evidence vault' or the Prohibited Access in the FBI computers, either.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:00 PM (viF8m)
I read the article the other day.
But I'm talking about prosecutions and evidence against the top of the chain.
He got that one kid Kilnesmith for changing the email from the CIA and that was it.
Strzok, Page, McCade, Comey, Clapper, Brennan haven't really been touched.
I'm not blaming Durham, he hit the brick wall of Fortress DC like everybody else.
I doubt he got access to the 'secret evidence vault' or the Prohibited Access in the FBI computers, either.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:08 PM (6ydKt)
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The most serious charge for Bondi in Zimmerman was if she abetted the trial judge and the Crump faction in the substitution of Trayvon's girlfriend for the trial. The author wrote a whole book about it but nothing has been done really about the situation to formally adjudge whether this assertion is true or not. So again, a legal system we have, not a justice system.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
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I think that substitution -- if indeed it was engineered by Bondi -- helped the defense. The "substituted" girlfriend was the fat retard who did Trayvon no favors.
I hear a lot about how Bondi railroaded Zimmerman. I see little to no evidence of it.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
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I think that substitution -- if indeed it was engineered by Bondi -- helped the defense. The "substituted" girlfriend was the fat retard who did Trayvon no favors.
I hear a lot about how Bondi railroaded Zimmerman. I see little to no evidence of it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:09 PM (iFTx/)
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I dropped a bankers box on my foot, so I went to the ethics counselor to get some morality put on it. It still hurts like a bastard.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:09 PM (TwZXH)
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July 15, 2024, the classified documents case against PDT was dismissed.
Posted by: old chick at July 15, 2025 01:09 PM (F3Dlr)
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did my link go wrong? I thought you guys would like that
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 01:10 PM (AOsQT)
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The ethics counselor mostly reads Kant all day
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That kant be true.
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He's a real pissant
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That kant be true.
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He's a real pissant
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at July 15, 2025 01:10 PM (0bjKf)
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Set up neutrino detectors in the basement.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:02 PM (jc0TO)
All the cool kids use synthetic aperture LIDAR now.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:02 PM (jc0TO)
All the cool kids use synthetic aperture LIDAR now.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 01:10 PM (D7oie)
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Sing "physical" but replace with "ethical'
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (MGB5H)
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I wanna hear your indictment talk....
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (MGB5H)
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I wanna hear your indictment talk....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 01:10 PM (tT6L1)
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Divide and Conquer is a favorite tactic of the left.
Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2025 01:10 PM (i0F8b)
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I used to work in an XRay library for a hospital, back before they digitized everything, physical film and files. The best place to hide something is in a folder, filed correctly in the stacks with no reference in the master file. No one cares to look, no one pays attention to it, and no one can find it without the file number, which doesn't exist in the master file.
Oh, and there is restricted access that prevents browsing.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Yep. I have been restoring some old computer systems I built in the past in order to give it to some kids interested in retro computing.
Even on an old windows or linux box, the sheer cruft of information on a single computer system amazes me. I basically am scrubbing the hard drives and reinstalling the OS to be sure that any personal information is gone.
Easier to pull the hard drives but for systems going back to Intel BX motherboards, sometimes hard to retrofit a modern SATA drive into an old IDE system.
Oh, and there is restricted access that prevents browsing.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Yep. I have been restoring some old computer systems I built in the past in order to give it to some kids interested in retro computing.
Even on an old windows or linux box, the sheer cruft of information on a single computer system amazes me. I basically am scrubbing the hard drives and reinstalling the OS to be sure that any personal information is gone.
Easier to pull the hard drives but for systems going back to Intel BX motherboards, sometimes hard to retrofit a modern SATA drive into an old IDE system.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:11 PM (ctrM5)
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Strzok, Page, McCade, Comey, Clapper, Brennan haven't really been touched.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:08 PM (6ydKt)
I can't speak to the others, but I believe Strzok got a seven figure settlement from the DOJ.
So, it's not so much that they didn't do anything to him, they just rewarded him with an early retirement and the down payment on his new yacht. I imagine he got set up with a sweet no show job by the deep state as well.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:08 PM (6ydKt)
I can't speak to the others, but I believe Strzok got a seven figure settlement from the DOJ.
So, it's not so much that they didn't do anything to him, they just rewarded him with an early retirement and the down payment on his new yacht. I imagine he got set up with a sweet no show job by the deep state as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:11 PM (uCjyK)
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I worked with a black lady back about 1984 that had a diamond stud through one nostril. This was my first introduction to nose piercing in America.
Amusingly, she tried to stifle a sneeze once and the stud shot across the room like the cork from a Champaign bottle. We had to all look for half an hour to find it.
Amusingly, she tried to stifle a sneeze once and the stud shot across the room like the cork from a Champaign bottle. We had to all look for half an hour to find it.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (TwZXH)
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One of the founders is running for a State rep spot and is kinda cute...https://tinyurl.com/ykrwkp9e
Posted by: Moron Analyst
Wow, a lefty woman who smiles, and has normal-colored hair and no visible tats or weird piercings. She is cute.
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)
Nose ring.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:02 PM (MGB5H)
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She's got that fake grin-smile that suggests she wants to eat your liver with some fava beans and nice chianti. Pass.
Posted by: Moron Analyst
Wow, a lefty woman who smiles, and has normal-colored hair and no visible tats or weird piercings. She is cute.
But radical leftie...so Rule 1 applies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)
Nose ring.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 01:02 PM (MGB5H)
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She's got that fake grin-smile that suggests she wants to eat your liver with some fava beans and nice chianti. Pass.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (iFTx/)
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>>He got that one kid Kilnesmith for changing the email from the CIA and that was it.
That prosecution was done in DC. If you read the article then you know that the raid on Mar A Lago is part of the conspiracy.
A conspiracy case can be brought in any jurisdiction where part of the conspiracy happened. Mar A Lago is in Florida.
I don't think Trump picked Patel's name out of a hat.
That prosecution was done in DC. If you read the article then you know that the raid on Mar A Lago is part of the conspiracy.
A conspiracy case can be brought in any jurisdiction where part of the conspiracy happened. Mar A Lago is in Florida.
I don't think Trump picked Patel's name out of a hat.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (viF8m)
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Divide and Conquer is a favorite tactic of the left.
Posted by: davidt
Thus, the letters "DC" after the name of our capital city.
Posted by: davidt
Thus, the letters "DC" after the name of our capital city.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (77rzZ)
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I think that substitution -- if indeed it was engineered by Bondi -- helped the defense. The "substituted" girlfriend was the fat retard who did Trayvon no favors.
I hear a lot about how Bondi railroaded Zimmerman. I see little to no evidence of it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
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I don't think even the book writer argued Bondi instigated the switch but rather she supported the trial judge in letting Crump do it via her appellate filing.
As you said, in the long run, Are you retarded Sir--Jeantel did not help the prosecution any.
I hear a lot about how Bondi railroaded Zimmerman. I see little to no evidence of it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
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I don't think even the book writer argued Bondi instigated the switch but rather she supported the trial judge in letting Crump do it via her appellate filing.
As you said, in the long run, Are you retarded Sir--Jeantel did not help the prosecution any.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)
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>> I'm not blaming Durham, he hit the brick wall of Fortress DC like everybody else.
Klinesmith dead to rights forging an email to get a FISA warrant: nothing
The lawyer who went to FBI "not with the campaign" who then billed the campaign for the hours at the FBI: nothing
Durham had two slam dunk cases and couldn't get shit from DC juries so he basically gave up. Unless these are tried elsewhere there is no point.
Klinesmith dead to rights forging an email to get a FISA warrant: nothing
The lawyer who went to FBI "not with the campaign" who then billed the campaign for the hours at the FBI: nothing
Durham had two slam dunk cases and couldn't get shit from DC juries so he basically gave up. Unless these are tried elsewhere there is no point.
Posted by: the dandy at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (8l8nW)
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Divide and Conquer is a favorite tactic of the left.
Posted by: davidt
and, the right. "othering" is part of the kink.
Posted by: davidt
and, the right. "othering" is part of the kink.
Posted by: old chick at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (F3Dlr)
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The most serious charge for Bondi in Zimmerman was if she abetted the trial judge and the Crump faction in the substitution of Trayvon's girlfriend for the trial. The author wrote a whole book about it but nothing has been done really about the situation to formally adjudge whether this assertion is true or not. So again, a legal system we have, not a justice system.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
It's really weird how nothing is being done about that.
If Zimmerman had been convicted and it came out later that the prosecution had put a fake witness pretending to be another witness on the stand, then the conviction would've been overturned without a doubt.
But because Zimmerman walked nobody seems to care that there was a blatant fraud perpetrated on the court by the State.
The most serious charge for Bondi in Zimmerman was if she abetted the trial judge and the Crump faction in the substitution of Trayvon's girlfriend for the trial. The author wrote a whole book about it but nothing has been done really about the situation to formally adjudge whether this assertion is true or not. So again, a legal system we have, not a justice system.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
It's really weird how nothing is being done about that.
If Zimmerman had been convicted and it came out later that the prosecution had put a fake witness pretending to be another witness on the stand, then the conviction would've been overturned without a doubt.
But because Zimmerman walked nobody seems to care that there was a blatant fraud perpetrated on the court by the State.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (6ydKt)
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Nood... Schiff mortgage
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (VE6XX)
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Amusingly, she tried to stifle a sneeze once and the stud shot across the room like the cork from a Champaign bottle. We had to all look for half an hour to find it.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (jc0TO)
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The first nose ring/stud I recall seeing was on a stunningly attractive college student, round about 1976.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (jc0TO)
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The first nose ring/stud I recall seeing was on a stunningly attractive college student, round about 1976.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (tT6L1)
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There are at least two sets of laws in this country and there isn't a damn legal thing we can do about it. -mh
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If there are two sets of laws, then nothing is legal or illegal.
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If there are two sets of laws, then nothing is legal or illegal.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (JvZF+)
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They tried a coup. They impeached him twice. They tried to bankrupt him, destroy his family, and throw him in prison. When all that didn’t work, they tried to kill him. Twice. But Trump isn’t going to do anything? Please.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (u73oe)
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@295
>>I can't speak to the others, but I believe Strzok got a seven figure settlement from the DOJ.
Strozk got 1.5m and Page got 800k.
How does that saying go about Treason not prospering?
>>I can't speak to the others, but I believe Strzok got a seven figure settlement from the DOJ.
Strozk got 1.5m and Page got 800k.
How does that saying go about Treason not prospering?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (hfKLq)
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279 John Solomon is a goofball and deepstate tool and simp.
He's been churning out deep state bullsh*t for a decade.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (hfKLq)
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The last time I said something along those lines, I thought Jack Straw was going to jump through my monitor and hit me over the head with his mouse.
I see Solomon as a useful tool in the intelligence/Law enforcement community to throw crumbs to the masses without any legitimate of substantial follow up. The ole' "Hannity Tick tock" mantra.
He's been churning out deep state bullsh*t for a decade.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 01:07 PM (hfKLq)
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The last time I said something along those lines, I thought Jack Straw was going to jump through my monitor and hit me over the head with his mouse.
I see Solomon as a useful tool in the intelligence/Law enforcement community to throw crumbs to the masses without any legitimate of substantial follow up. The ole' "Hannity Tick tock" mantra.
Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (dIske)
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As you said, in the long run, Are you retarded Sir--Jeantel did not help the prosecution any.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)
I liked her. I wonder what she's up to these days.
"are you retarded sir" was a classic, as was "i don't read cursive."
Or when she said Trayvon told her he was going to go confront some "creppy ass n*gga" (IIRC the words correctly) who was following him, but then said that words do not denote sexuality or race.
She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)
I liked her. I wonder what she's up to these days.
"are you retarded sir" was a classic, as was "i don't read cursive."
Or when she said Trayvon told her he was going to go confront some "creppy ass n*gga" (IIRC the words correctly) who was following him, but then said that words do not denote sexuality or race.
She was a very entertaining witness.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)
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Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
"Killed while walking home" is enough to taint a future jury. Very very bad. Especially in this particular case where the accused was clearly innocent.
Recall the case had been (correctly) open and shut by all relevant authorities due to Zimmerman's injuries and story and the other contemporaneous facts like that he called the police and you don't call the police when you're about to murder someone in cold blood. All until Jarrett and Crump got ahold of it.
Reopening and establishing a prosecution was more than enough to keep the animals at bay. She could have said "We have the toughest prosecutor and she will get to the bottom of the facts in this case." But she didn't. And I know the woman knows how to equivocate and modulate. Awful awful person. Owned or has terrible judgment or both.
"Killed while walking home" is enough to taint a future jury. Very very bad. Especially in this particular case where the accused was clearly innocent.
Recall the case had been (correctly) open and shut by all relevant authorities due to Zimmerman's injuries and story and the other contemporaneous facts like that he called the police and you don't call the police when you're about to murder someone in cold blood. All until Jarrett and Crump got ahold of it.
Reopening and establishing a prosecution was more than enough to keep the animals at bay. She could have said "We have the toughest prosecutor and she will get to the bottom of the facts in this case." But she didn't. And I know the woman knows how to equivocate and modulate. Awful awful person. Owned or has terrible judgment or both.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 01:16 PM (Qr870)
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241 >>Obama will never be the subject of any investigation.
No, probably not. And I won't get that pony. Ever.
But exposing what has been going on and who did it has its own value. Many, probably most, on the left still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016. Breaking them and stopping this insanity by exposing the truth is important.
We've come an amazing distance fighting against a corrupt and morally bankrupt government when many said we could never win but we haven't won it all yet.
Never stop fighting until the fight is won.
Posted by: JackStraw
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The dead get Justice; the living get the legal system. The Lord is more just than any judge.
No, probably not. And I won't get that pony. Ever.
But exposing what has been going on and who did it has its own value. Many, probably most, on the left still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016. Breaking them and stopping this insanity by exposing the truth is important.
We've come an amazing distance fighting against a corrupt and morally bankrupt government when many said we could never win but we haven't won it all yet.
Never stop fighting until the fight is won.
Posted by: JackStraw
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The dead get Justice; the living get the legal system. The Lord is more just than any judge.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (ctrM5)
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Was Hur the other guy who was always coming?
Posted by: Drain Pan Alley at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (G5+As)
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"John Solomon is a goofball and deepstate tool and simp."
Bongino loved that guy. That's where I first heard of him.
Bongino loved that guy. That's where I first heard of him.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 01:19 PM (TwZXH)
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Trump is retaliating against Madmani.9
The New York City subway system flooded during intense storms yesterday and the videos terrify me
The New York City subway system flooded during intense storms yesterday and the videos terrify me
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (CGT3R)
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Was Hur the other guy who was always coming?
Posted by: Drain Pan Alley at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM
I thought that was Steiner...
Was Hur the other guy who was always coming?
Posted by: Drain Pan Alley at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM
I thought that was Steiner...
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 01:20 PM (tljrc)
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Was Hur the other guy who was always coming?
Thousands of unsealed indictments !!! Just waiting to drop !!!
And the same people are just as confident and condescending now as then.
Thousands of unsealed indictments !!! Just waiting to drop !!!
And the same people are just as confident and condescending now as then.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (URjre)
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That prosecution was done in DC. If you read the article then you know that the raid on Mar A Lago is part of the conspiracy.
A conspiracy case can be brought in any jurisdiction where part of the conspiracy happened. Mar A Lago is in Florida.
I don't think Trump picked Patel's name out of a hat.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (viF8m)
I'm just not linking all the cases together in my head like that.
I get how they can link the two through the documents Trump had at Mar-a-Lago, but that's not a direct extension of the conspiracy with Crossfire Hurricane.
Comey, McCabe, and the rest were all gone, they weren't giving the orders.
Jack Smith, etc. is on Wray & Garland and ultimately Biden & the Autopen Politburo.
Maybe they can bring a case, and work the Anywhere-But-DC jurisdiction & statute of limitations issues out, by broadening the net to drag in Comey & Brennan & Co., but I'll have to see it to believe it.
A conspiracy case can be brought in any jurisdiction where part of the conspiracy happened. Mar A Lago is in Florida.
I don't think Trump picked Patel's name out of a hat.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (viF8m)
I'm just not linking all the cases together in my head like that.
I get how they can link the two through the documents Trump had at Mar-a-Lago, but that's not a direct extension of the conspiracy with Crossfire Hurricane.
Comey, McCabe, and the rest were all gone, they weren't giving the orders.
Jack Smith, etc. is on Wray & Garland and ultimately Biden & the Autopen Politburo.
Maybe they can bring a case, and work the Anywhere-But-DC jurisdiction & statute of limitations issues out, by broadening the net to drag in Comey & Brennan & Co., but I'll have to see it to believe it.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 01:22 PM (6ydKt)
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They tried a coup. They impeached him twice. They tried to bankrupt him, destroy his family, and throw him in prison. When all that didn’t work, they tried to kill him. Twice. But Trump isn’t going to do anything? Please.
Everyone forgets that the 18 USC 241 charge that Jack Smith brought against President Trump, carried a Death Sentence with it. The excuse for that was Ashli Babbitt who was shot and killed by the Capitol Police.
Everyone forgets that the 18 USC 241 charge that Jack Smith brought against President Trump, carried a Death Sentence with it. The excuse for that was Ashli Babbitt who was shot and killed by the Capitol Police.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 15, 2025 01:23 PM (Da7Vv)
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Reopening and establishing a prosecution was more than enough to keep the animals at bay. She could have said "We have the toughest prosecutor and she will get to the bottom of the facts in this case." But she didn't. And I know the woman knows how to equivocate and modulate. Awful awful person. Owned or has terrible judgment or both.
Posted by: ...
Eh, judgement call. I have seen far more explicit attempts to tamper with teh jury--namely that of Obama.
Feel free to disagree. S'okay. But I have seen and read a lot of 'political justice' in cases that I am probably cynical about it.
Posted by: ...
Eh, judgement call. I have seen far more explicit attempts to tamper with teh jury--namely that of Obama.
Feel free to disagree. S'okay. But I have seen and read a lot of 'political justice' in cases that I am probably cynical about it.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (ctrM5)
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Feel free to disagree. S'okay. But I have seen and read a lot of 'political justice' in cases that I am probably cynical about it.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (ctrM5)
I have instincts on people and things. They only rarely steer me wrong. So that's what I have, and that's my case. I'm pretty sure she had other comments too but I'm not convinced by simple politics on this one. If saving her state was worth burning the country down that's bad judgment.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (ctrM5)
I have instincts on people and things. They only rarely steer me wrong. So that's what I have, and that's my case. I'm pretty sure she had other comments too but I'm not convinced by simple politics on this one. If saving her state was worth burning the country down that's bad judgment.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 01:34 PM (Qr870)
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the real problem as I see it is that John Durham had a pretty food indictment of Michael Sussmann, Kevin Clinesmith, and Igor Danchenko.
Only Clinesmith was found to legally have "done something" and the sentence was a joke (you would have gotten more time robbing a 7-11). In the other trials, there was egregious conflicts-of-interest with the jury pool which the alleged judge had absolutely no problem ignoring. Some even made social media posts that should have disqualified them, but the sympathetic judge had no problem ignoring.
Only Clinesmith was found to legally have "done something" and the sentence was a joke (you would have gotten more time robbing a 7-11). In the other trials, there was egregious conflicts-of-interest with the jury pool which the alleged judge had absolutely no problem ignoring. Some even made social media posts that should have disqualified them, but the sympathetic judge had no problem ignoring.
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 01:49 PM (RHGPo)
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Distraction from Epstein will not work
Release the tapes
Release the files
Release Ghilsaine and let her testify.
Stop shielding those elites like Trump
Release the tapes
Release the files
Release Ghilsaine and let her testify.
Stop shielding those elites like Trump
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 02:01 PM (665yf)
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Townhall.com
@townhallcom
ZOHRAN MAMDANI: If I ever ran out of money, my family would be able to support me.
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Townhall.com
@townhallcom
ZOHRAN MAMDANI: If I ever ran out of money, my family would be able to support me.
https://tinyurl.com/3h6amhen
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (NpAcC)
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"I think it's part of a coordinated strategy to deprive people of their constitutional rights to speech and to petition the government for redress of agreements and also the right to counsel," former Trump attorney John Eastman told the John Solomon Reports podcast on Monday.
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John Eastman, a brilliant constitutional scholar, did not say "redress of agreements." He said "redress of grievances," just as it says in the First Amendment to the Constitution.
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John Eastman, a brilliant constitutional scholar, did not say "redress of agreements." He said "redress of grievances," just as it says in the First Amendment to the Constitution.
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (kWBLv)
The Morning Rant
I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly. The feeding frenzy in Washington, D.C. was the Watergate hearings leading to the resignation of President Richard M. Nixon on August 9, 1974. What is the current feeding frenzy in
Attorney General Pam Bondi — who has been purging the Justice Department of anyone tied to the Jan. 6 prosecutions as well as the prosecutions of President Donald Trump — fired the lawyer personally advising her and the department’s thousands of employees on ethics, Bloomberg reported Sunday. Joseph Tirrell, who began his career in the Navy and spent almost two decades in the federal government, was fired Friday via a brief letter from Bondi, who gave no reason for the termination. The same day, Bondi fired 20 DOJ employees who were involved in prosecuting Trump. She has also recently fired employees related to the prosecutions of the Jan. 6 riots on the Capitol. Tirrell had advised Special Counsel Jack Smith on ethics related to the prosecution of Trump, Bloomberg reported.
As I write this Pam Bondi is still the AG. Dan Bongino is still deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And "Law & Order" Cash Patel is still the Director of the FBI. Nothing will happen to either Bondi, Bongion or Patel. They will "kiss and make up" and somewhere down the road either they will resign or be fired. The NDAs they signed will forbid them from spilling whatever they may know. Some may call me a cynic. But, I'm a realist, nothing will happen to the Diddlers of Epstein Island. Nothing will happen to the Swamp Creatures. Nothing happens to the professional protesters but OMG how dare someone walk through the capitol? It really doesn't matter who the POTUS is anymore. There are at least two sets of laws in this country and there isn't a damn legal thing we can do about it.
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Gorilla!
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 10:59 AM (uxAXv)
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First?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:59 AM (omVj0)
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Yikes.. Don't hold back
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:01 AM (VE6XX)
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That's a lot of words to say nothing.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:01 AM (+b4rY)
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Y'all call nood and don't even try for first? Classy move.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2025 11:02 AM (RlmPm)
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Unless it's some stray voltage, I still think l'affaire Epstein is an own goal.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:02 AM (jc0TO)
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Since the Epstein kerfluffle is a nothing-burger, can we haz access to the thousands of hours of videos?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 11:02 AM (4IClK)
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How is Bondi DEI?
That’s unfair.
That’s unfair.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:03 AM (ImXfC)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 11:03 AM (L/fGl)
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MONKEY!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:03 AM (N1DT3)
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I miss Socratic ape.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:03 AM (jc0TO)
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I think we are dealing with Cocaine Bear. Don't feed the bears, people!
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 11:03 AM (W3T6M)
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I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly.
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I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
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I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
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@EricLDaugh
🚨 JUST IN - MATT GAETZ, who many wanted Trump to name as Attorney General over the past week in place of Pam Bondi:
"Pam Bondi is the BEST attorney general Donald Trump has had by a factor of ten thousand."
"Pam Bondi is a STAR and has our full admiration and support. To those who don't share my enthusiasm, look at how far we've come."
"The Bondi team successfully litigated away the judicial coup of nationwide injunctions. They did that. They won that for us."
"They have created the legal infrastructure for highly effective deportations. She's got the cartels self-deporting. She has targeted the criminals and the gang networks."
🚨 JUST IN - MATT GAETZ, who many wanted Trump to name as Attorney General over the past week in place of Pam Bondi:
"Pam Bondi is the BEST attorney general Donald Trump has had by a factor of ten thousand."
"Pam Bondi is a STAR and has our full admiration and support. To those who don't share my enthusiasm, look at how far we've come."
"The Bondi team successfully litigated away the judicial coup of nationwide injunctions. They did that. They won that for us."
"They have created the legal infrastructure for highly effective deportations. She's got the cartels self-deporting. She has targeted the criminals and the gang networks."
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (viF8m)
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Had the DOJ not gone all in on claiming they were going to drop all the bombs, this would all be a very different conversation. Was that Bondi's decision? Trump's? Someone else's? I don't know, but that's the real root of the kerfuffliness. Someone got out over their skis.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (RlmPm)
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Apropos of nothing, all primates stink offensively.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (jc0TO)
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13 I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly.
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I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
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Nixon, unlike the Kennedy boys lived to talk about it.
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I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
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Nixon, unlike the Kennedy boys lived to talk about it.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (W3T6M)
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Thunderous applause!
Posted by: creeper at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (zFwIe)
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The hard core MAGA types frame this as binary. Either you accept everything Trump says or you’re a freedom Hating commie who secretly voted for Kamala.
Sorry but that’s just bullshit. I can like what Trump does on immigration, the economy , etc AND be upset that he’s lying about Epstein.
Sorry but that’s just bullshit. I can like what Trump does on immigration, the economy , etc AND be upset that he’s lying about Epstein.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (ImXfC)
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I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly.
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I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
I'm just young enough to remember thinking watergate was a plumbing problem.
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I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
I'm just young enough to remember thinking watergate was a plumbing problem.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 15, 2025 11:06 AM (snZF9)
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Make Gaetz a Special Prosecutor assigned to Southern District of Florida and let him spill the Epstein Beans.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 11:06 AM (gbOdA)
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[The Blade moseys on over to AoS]
[Looks around, sees yet more endless defeatism and pessimism and bukkake bullshit over obvious psy-op sabotage]
[The Blade shakes head disapprovingly]
[Looks at watch. Sneaks out the back exit]
[Looks around, sees yet more endless defeatism and pessimism and bukkake bullshit over obvious psy-op sabotage]
[The Blade shakes head disapprovingly]
[Looks at watch. Sneaks out the back exit]
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 11:06 AM (iFTx/)
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I'm not sure Bondi is calling the plays on this...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:07 AM (VE6XX)
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Y'all call nood and don't even try for first? Classy move.
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That's what Tim Tebow would do.
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That's what Tim Tebow would do.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 11:07 AM (TN0g+)
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...AND be upset that he’s lying about Epstein.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (ImXfC)
You attend the staff meetings then...?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (ImXfC)
You attend the staff meetings then...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:07 AM (PzXaK)
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Sorry but that’s just bullshit. I can like what Trump does on immigration, the economy , etc AND be upset that he’s lying about Epstein.
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Imma pretty sure avoiding a ambush is the smart thing to do.
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Imma pretty sure avoiding a ambush is the smart thing to do.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 11:07 AM (W3T6M)
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IF they were actually charging people with crimes, I could understand why they can publish all their information.
But no one other than Epstein (who didn't kill himself) or Maxwell has ever been charged.
Charged with trafficking minors.... to ghosts, apparently, as no one has been charged with the raping that the trafficking implies.
I'm willing to believe there other issues why this hasn't come out in 20 years, but all it tells me is that our "elites" are hopelessly corrupt.
But no one other than Epstein (who didn't kill himself) or Maxwell has ever been charged.
Charged with trafficking minors.... to ghosts, apparently, as no one has been charged with the raping that the trafficking implies.
I'm willing to believe there other issues why this hasn't come out in 20 years, but all it tells me is that our "elites" are hopelessly corrupt.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
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I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly.
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I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Hmmmmmm. . . . I'm old enough to remember that but with 3.2% beer and cheap weed being as prevalent as they were at that time, I don't remember anything.
I'm told, though, I had a very good time.
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I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Hmmmmmm. . . . I'm old enough to remember that but with 3.2% beer and cheap weed being as prevalent as they were at that time, I don't remember anything.
I'm told, though, I had a very good time.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 15, 2025 11:08 AM (cYBz/)
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IF they were actually charging people with crimes, I could understand why they can publish all their information.
But no one other than Epstein (who didn't kill himself) or Maxwell has ever been charged.
Charged with trafficking minors.... to ghosts, apparently, as no one has been charged with the raping that the trafficking implies.
I'm willing to believe there other issues why this hasn't come out in 20 years, but all it tells me is that our "elites" are hopelessly corrupt.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
*can't publish
But no one other than Epstein (who didn't kill himself) or Maxwell has ever been charged.
Charged with trafficking minors.... to ghosts, apparently, as no one has been charged with the raping that the trafficking implies.
I'm willing to believe there other issues why this hasn't come out in 20 years, but all it tells me is that our "elites" are hopelessly corrupt.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
*can't publish
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
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I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly.
>>>>
I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
I remember 1974 very well. Let's see....add the 7, subtract the 1, divide by 2......Uh, I was 27 in the summer of '74. Sorry about the math.
Holy crap!! I AM over 29! Damn.
>>>>
I'm not 29 enough to remember that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
I remember 1974 very well. Let's see....add the 7, subtract the 1, divide by 2......Uh, I was 27 in the summer of '74. Sorry about the math.
Holy crap!! I AM over 29! Damn. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 15, 2025 11:08 AM (5xuJ/)
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mac did green manalishi
Posted by: vizzy at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (qwdJy)
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6 I'm far less interested in the Epstein stuff at this point than I am in people's reaction to it.
First, a lot of people need to feel as though they know 'the truth'. See the JFK and RFK killings for examples where theories have no real evidence and persist regardless. It seems to be very hard for many people to admit that they have no information to make a real determination about something.
Second, the Epstein stuff has been very revealing about right-wing "influencer" types. Who gives a nuanced take, and who keeps hammering on about it? It's a tell. We are at a point where numerous people refer to "their sources" like they are Natasha Bertrand at CNN. Bongino wasn't at work on Friday and was going to quit if Bondi wasn't fired. Nothing has happened (so far), and yet people don't (rightly) throw the person who told them this stuff under the bus as a result.
Finally, a lot of people (including on this blog, unfortunately) like to be miserable. It's a slow news period. Things are mostly going pretty well (especially compared to 6-12 months ago). Instead of enjoying things, people gripe, because it's weirdly pleasant for them.
First, a lot of people need to feel as though they know 'the truth'. See the JFK and RFK killings for examples where theories have no real evidence and persist regardless. It seems to be very hard for many people to admit that they have no information to make a real determination about something.
Second, the Epstein stuff has been very revealing about right-wing "influencer" types. Who gives a nuanced take, and who keeps hammering on about it? It's a tell. We are at a point where numerous people refer to "their sources" like they are Natasha Bertrand at CNN. Bongino wasn't at work on Friday and was going to quit if Bondi wasn't fired. Nothing has happened (so far), and yet people don't (rightly) throw the person who told them this stuff under the bus as a result.
Finally, a lot of people (including on this blog, unfortunately) like to be miserable. It's a slow news period. Things are mostly going pretty well (especially compared to 6-12 months ago). Instead of enjoying things, people gripe, because it's weirdly pleasant for them.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (+b4rY)
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>>> It really doesn't matter who the POTUS is anymore. There are at least two sets of laws in this country and there isn't a damn legal thing we can do about it.
Jeez MisHum, you make me sound like an optimist! (You ain't wrong though)
Jeez MisHum, you make me sound like an optimist! (You ain't wrong though)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (mlg/3)
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Jeez. How'd you get that picture of me sitting in my backyard discussing politics with my neighbor??
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (5xuJ/)
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Ghislaine Maxwell is the first human ever convicted of conspiracy to commit crimes with ghosts,
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (ImXfC)
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“but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.”
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (uxAXv)
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32 Finally, a lot of people (including on this blog, unfortunately) like to be miserable. It's a slow news period. Things are mostly going pretty well (especially compared to 6-12 months ago). Instead of enjoying things, people gripe, because it's weirdly pleasant for them.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (+b4rY)
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I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (+b4rY)
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I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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I take the only-recently firing of all those at the DOJ (that should have been fired long ago) as confirmation that 1) there is an investigation into the political weaponization of the DOJ and 2) that they have completed most of the investigation and 3) indictments are coming.
Recall: only current employees can be forced to submit to an interview.
Recall: only current employees can be forced to submit to an interview.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (VlU/R)
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30 I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly.
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I was running a siding crew making $4 an hour. Even at $4 an hour I couldn't take home $100 a week. Fuck taxes.
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I was running a siding crew making $4 an hour. Even at $4 an hour I couldn't take home $100 a week. Fuck taxes.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (W3T6M)
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Thank goodness Trump is not a cynic because a cynic can never bring about positive change. I get the temptation, and realism seems like a virtue on the surface. It's good to have a healthy skepticism and not give people the benefit of the doubt until trust is earned, but it's also unproductive to throw people under the bus because things didn't happen exactly the way we wanted. But all that righteous indignation feels so good, doesn't it?
Posted by: From a Far Green Country at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (Y03RW)
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Recall: only current employees can be forced to submit to an interview.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (VlU/R)
Isn't that what subpoenas are for?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (VlU/R)
Isn't that what subpoenas are for?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (RlmPm)
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Since the Epstein kerfluffle is a nothing-burger, can we haz access to the thousands of hours of videos?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 11:02 AM (4IClK)
There might be the teensiest little problem . . .
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 11:02 AM (4IClK)
There might be the teensiest little problem . . .
Posted by: Zombie Rose Mary Woods at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (wVcYX)
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lot of people (including on this blog, unfortunately) like to be miserable. It's a slow news period. Things are mostly going pretty well (especially compared to 6-12 months ago). Instead of enjoying things, people gripe, because it's weirdly pleasant for them.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (+b4rY)
As long as the trains run on time who cares what happens in the camps.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (+b4rY)
As long as the trains run on time who cares what happens in the camps.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (ImXfC)
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It really doesn't matter who the POTUS is anymore.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 11:00 AM
This is categorically false.
I challenge ANYONE here to defend the idea that Kamala's presidency would look exactly like Trump's second term.
"Turns out, you just needed a new president."
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 11:00 AM
This is categorically false.
I challenge ANYONE here to defend the idea that Kamala's presidency would look exactly like Trump's second term.
"Turns out, you just needed a new president."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (fCgdX)
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It really doesn't matter who the POTUS is anymore. There are at least two sets of laws in this country and there isn't a damn legal thing we can do about it.
**cracks open beer, hands it to MisHum**
Welcome to my world!
**cracks open beer, hands it to MisHum**
Welcome to my world!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (Dg2sF)
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I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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Epstein didn't kill himself - he changed his name to Alex Kurtzman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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Epstein didn't kill himself - he changed his name to Alex Kurtzman.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:12 AM (PzXaK)
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38 Well talking about Star Trek is pretty miserable in the era of JJ Abrams and Alex Kutrzman.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:12 AM (+b4rY)
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"It really doesn't matter who the POTUS is anymore."
Gee, did you get tired of winning? Here I'd been thinking how much of a difference it has made who is POTUS the past six months.
There's still Deep State infections. The cancer of a monster government won't be cleared out in just one term of MAGA. But it matters at least somewhat significantly that we've got Trump. Doesn't it?
Good morning, MH & hordelings.
Gee, did you get tired of winning? Here I'd been thinking how much of a difference it has made who is POTUS the past six months.
There's still Deep State infections. The cancer of a monster government won't be cleared out in just one term of MAGA. But it matters at least somewhat significantly that we've got Trump. Doesn't it?
Good morning, MH & hordelings.
Posted by: mindful webworker - just getting started at July 15, 2025 11:12 AM (+kBwA)
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>>The hard core MAGA types frame this as binary. Either you accept everything Trump says or you’re a freedom Hating commie who secretly voted for Kamala.
Well moo, ok if I just call you moo, the hard core "Trump is going to lose" types, you, are always quick to call doom on anything Trump does.
Axshullee, it's the hard core Trump influencers on social media who are causing most of the puckering. Trump, not Bondi, Trump wants this put to the side. Obviously, he is not a fan of Epstein. And we know Epstein was doing some very bad shit and protected by some very powerful people both in the US and abroad. Has it occured to you exposing those ties right now might be very bad for the US?
Trump has done nothing but deliver. His judgement has been pretty damn good for this country. Maybe you should chill the fuck out for like 5 minutes and let things play out.
Well moo, ok if I just call you moo, the hard core "Trump is going to lose" types, you, are always quick to call doom on anything Trump does.
Axshullee, it's the hard core Trump influencers on social media who are causing most of the puckering. Trump, not Bondi, Trump wants this put to the side. Obviously, he is not a fan of Epstein. And we know Epstein was doing some very bad shit and protected by some very powerful people both in the US and abroad. Has it occured to you exposing those ties right now might be very bad for the US?
Trump has done nothing but deliver. His judgement has been pretty damn good for this country. Maybe you should chill the fuck out for like 5 minutes and let things play out.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (viF8m)
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44 lot of people (including on this blog, unfortunately) like to be miserable. It's a slow news period. Things are mostly going pretty well (especially compared to 6-12 months ago). Instead of enjoying things, people gripe, because it's weirdly pleasant for them.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (+b4rY)
As long as the trains run on time who cares what happens in the camps.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (ImXfC)
Oh brother.
You just lost the last shred of any respect you had here.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (+b4rY)
As long as the trains run on time who cares what happens in the camps.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:11 AM (ImXfC)
Oh brother.
You just lost the last shred of any respect you had here.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (PzXaK)
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47 I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
Only the original series for me...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
Only the original series for me...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (VE6XX)
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47 I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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Epstein didn't kill himself - he changed his name to Alex Kurtzman.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:12 AM (PzXaK)
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*mind...blown*
It all fits.
Suddenly...everything makes sense...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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Epstein didn't kill himself - he changed his name to Alex Kurtzman.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:12 AM (PzXaK)
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*mind...blown*
It all fits.
Suddenly...everything makes sense...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
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I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
I'm wondering if I should watch any of Strange New Worlds. I wouldn't mind a few Captain Pike episodes, but I have no desire to immerse myself in a woke-fest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
I'm wondering if I should watch any of Strange New Worlds. I wouldn't mind a few Captain Pike episodes, but I have no desire to immerse myself in a woke-fest.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (Dg2sF)
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44 "As long as the trains run on time who cares what happens in the camps."
What a nonsense non sequitur reply. Look at you, basking in your own unearned sense of moral righteousness.
What a nonsense non sequitur reply. Look at you, basking in your own unearned sense of moral righteousness.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:14 AM (+b4rY)
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Recall: only current employees can be forced to submit to an interview.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (VlU/R)
This is only true for administrative cases (reprisal, et al.). It is not true in criminal cases.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (VlU/R)
This is only true for administrative cases (reprisal, et al.). It is not true in criminal cases.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:14 AM (fCgdX)
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51 Oh brother.
You just lost the last shred of any respect you had here.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (PzXaK)
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Everyone's known he's been a troll since he showed up...right after Montec got banned. Weird coincidence...
But he colors in the lines and is just an ass.
Now, if he starts talking about shit pebbles, that'll be something different.
You just lost the last shred of any respect you had here.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (PzXaK)
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Everyone's known he's been a troll since he showed up...right after Montec got banned. Weird coincidence...
But he colors in the lines and is just an ass.
Now, if he starts talking about shit pebbles, that'll be something different.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Sssssssss
Posted by: The Slow Newsday Gorn at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (jc0TO)
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I'm wondering if I should watch any of Strange New Worlds. I wouldn't mind a few Captain Pike episodes, but I have no desire to immerse myself in a woke-fest.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (Dg2sF)
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Don't. Zero respect for the ST universe, ignores canon, has significant woke moments, etc etc.
Property Brothers is a better show than ST SNW
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (Dg2sF)
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Don't. Zero respect for the ST universe, ignores canon, has significant woke moments, etc etc.
Property Brothers is a better show than ST SNW
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (PzXaK)
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Is there nothing that damn Trump won't do?
Thomas Hern@ThomasMHern
REPORTER: Rosie O'Donnell went on Chris Cuomo's show recently and she blamed you [Trump] for the fact she is overweight, depressed, and drunk -- what do you say to that?
Thomas Hern@ThomasMHern
REPORTER: Rosie O'Donnell went on Chris Cuomo's show recently and she blamed you [Trump] for the fact she is overweight, depressed, and drunk -- what do you say to that?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (L/fGl)
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54 I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
I'm wondering if I should watch any of Strange New Worlds. I wouldn't mind a few Captain Pike episodes, but I have no desire to immerse myself in a woke-fest.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (Dg2sF)
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I watched precisely 1.3 episodes of Strange New Worlds before I gave up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
I'm wondering if I should watch any of Strange New Worlds. I wouldn't mind a few Captain Pike episodes, but I have no desire to immerse myself in a woke-fest.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (Dg2sF)
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I watched precisely 1.3 episodes of Strange New Worlds before I gave up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (ImXfC)
It's even more jarring for those of us who were Trump-curious in 2016. Trump was not my first choice (Rand Paul was, if that gives you any indications of what my politics were back then), but I was open to it mostly because he was a brash outsider and politics is fake and gay, as was blindingly obvious with TARP / TEA Party / 8 years of R failure theater under Obama and he talked about building a border wall, ending the endless wars, and getting rid of the atrocious "free trade" deals.
On this very blog, and throughout the right wing mediasphere, a LOT of people (including bloggers and commenters on this very site) were very anti trump. Like people got banned on this site for their pro-Trumpiness.
And now I'm being told if I'm not 100% on board with every move Trump makes, I'm not True MAGA or a True Republican, I'm secretly pro Putin, antisemitic, a troll and working for the D's.
That's cult like thinking, guys. We should cut that out. We're not Obama voters in 2008. We can disagree with Trump on things. That's okay.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (ImXfC)
It's even more jarring for those of us who were Trump-curious in 2016. Trump was not my first choice (Rand Paul was, if that gives you any indications of what my politics were back then), but I was open to it mostly because he was a brash outsider and politics is fake and gay, as was blindingly obvious with TARP / TEA Party / 8 years of R failure theater under Obama and he talked about building a border wall, ending the endless wars, and getting rid of the atrocious "free trade" deals.
On this very blog, and throughout the right wing mediasphere, a LOT of people (including bloggers and commenters on this very site) were very anti trump. Like people got banned on this site for their pro-Trumpiness.
And now I'm being told if I'm not 100% on board with every move Trump makes, I'm not True MAGA or a True Republican, I'm secretly pro Putin, antisemitic, a troll and working for the D's.
That's cult like thinking, guys. We should cut that out. We're not Obama voters in 2008. We can disagree with Trump on things. That's okay.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (uCjyK)
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Now, if he starts talking about shit pebbles, that'll be something different.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
Ha!
OK, as I allowed earlier today I can be guilty of taking a few things far too seriously.
Like Quentin.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
Ha!
OK, as I allowed earlier today I can be guilty of taking a few things far too seriously.
Like Quentin.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:16 AM (PzXaK)
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Yeah, I'm not happy with the handling or lack of regarding the Epstein "files". That being said I think there is a world of difference between a Trump Presidency and a Harris one...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:16 AM (VE6XX)
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Supposedly Merrick Garland handed out immunity deals to the Epstein clients per a claim on X (take with appropriate amount of salt). If so, why can't the taxpayer funding this monstrously sized justice system apparatus know who has been given immunity by the DOJ on their behalf?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 11:16 AM (Dv3i1)
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This sort of pessimistic outlook ignores real progress on issues affecting most people. Inflation, peace, reining in government abuse and weaponization (pardon of the Jan 6'ers for example), removing killers and criminals from abroad here illegally, and so on.
I notice the above post specifically ignores massive releases of JFK and RFK documents sought for decades. MLK documents coming
Two track justice occurs when enough money and power can hire the lawyers to get away with a lot. If charged, at best, the wealthy are convicted of process crimes , not the underlying offense.
Diddy is a perfect example--the jury refused to convict on RICO charges. Michael Jackson paid his accusers off. Bill Cosby only got into trouble when he departed from the reservation for alleged conduct in the 70's in most cases.
We can seek to provide justice in our own relationships and do our best if selected for juries to provide it for the accused or litigant, but we are NOT responsible, nor should be, for the wider world of injustice.
True justice can only be from the King of Kings, not from the actions of men.
I notice the above post specifically ignores massive releases of JFK and RFK documents sought for decades. MLK documents coming
Two track justice occurs when enough money and power can hire the lawyers to get away with a lot. If charged, at best, the wealthy are convicted of process crimes , not the underlying offense.
Diddy is a perfect example--the jury refused to convict on RICO charges. Michael Jackson paid his accusers off. Bill Cosby only got into trouble when he departed from the reservation for alleged conduct in the 70's in most cases.
We can seek to provide justice in our own relationships and do our best if selected for juries to provide it for the accused or litigant, but we are NOT responsible, nor should be, for the wider world of injustice.
True justice can only be from the King of Kings, not from the actions of men.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:16 AM (ctrM5)
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Trajectory and momentum are the most important things. The left got to where they are by understanding this. They're losing their grip because their idiot nepo baby successors have no idea about anything that happened before they went to kollidge. They think default progressivism is actually a physical constant of the universe and part of their birthright, and not something that was built over generations of careful and relentless cultural degradation.
Doing the weeding is important. But don't get too lost in them.
Doing the weeding is important. But don't get too lost in them.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2025 11:16 AM (RlmPm)
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Oh my God. Run Charles, before it's too late!
@zerohedge
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Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:17 AM (viF8m)
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It really doesn't matter who the POTUS is anymore. There are at least two sets of laws in this country and there isn't a damn legal thing we can do about it.
You're right. Let's just chuck all this pretending and go back to the glory days of Biden. /rolleyes
Lose sight of the big picture much?
You're right. Let's just chuck all this pretending and go back to the glory days of Biden. /rolleyes
Lose sight of the big picture much?
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at July 15, 2025 11:17 AM (OYFDn)
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54 I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
I'm wondering if I should watch any of Strange New Worlds. I wouldn't mind a few Captain Pike episodes, but I have no desire to immerse myself in a woke-fest.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (Dg2sF)
Whatever you do, try not to miss the musical episode. You haven't lived til you've seen Singin' Spock!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
I'm wondering if I should watch any of Strange New Worlds. I wouldn't mind a few Captain Pike episodes, but I have no desire to immerse myself in a woke-fest.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (Dg2sF)
Whatever you do, try not to miss the musical episode. You haven't lived til you've seen Singin' Spock!
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 11:17 AM (uxAXv)
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I just feel like talking about Star Trek sometimes...
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I much prefer the Original to the Next Generation, but last night I was flipping channels and the episode where Scottie appears in the Next Generation was on and quite enjoyable.
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I much prefer the Original to the Next Generation, but last night I was flipping channels and the episode where Scottie appears in the Next Generation was on and quite enjoyable.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (TN0g+)
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What was Epstein doing out on the New Mexico property?
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (DoOmQ)
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The hard core MAGA types frame this as binary. Either you accept everything Trump says or you’re a freedom Hating commie who secretly voted for Kamala.
Sorry but that’s just bullshit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (ImXfC)
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Your mischaracterization is what is bullshit. If the administration story is believable, courts forbid the release of some of the material, some is grand jury testimony and not releasable, some is defamatory and false, and therefore not releasable, some is child porn, and much of the remainder is already released.
Now you can choose to believe or not believe what they say. Up to you. And, no question Bondi fumbled the ball here big time with her early grandstanding. She did. But whining about it is destructive.
Do you really want to hand over governing to the fucking left in Congress, and stop the Trump Train because your desire for....who the fuck knows... is unsatisfied?
That's stupid, that's bullshit, and that's only a good result is you are a lefty.
Sorry but that’s just bullshit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (ImXfC)
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Your mischaracterization is what is bullshit. If the administration story is believable, courts forbid the release of some of the material, some is grand jury testimony and not releasable, some is defamatory and false, and therefore not releasable, some is child porn, and much of the remainder is already released.
Now you can choose to believe or not believe what they say. Up to you. And, no question Bondi fumbled the ball here big time with her early grandstanding. She did. But whining about it is destructive.
Do you really want to hand over governing to the fucking left in Congress, and stop the Trump Train because your desire for....who the fuck knows... is unsatisfied?
That's stupid, that's bullshit, and that's only a good result is you are a lefty.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (RWvY0)
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And now I'm being told if I'm not 100% on board with every move Trump makes, I'm not True MAGA or a True Republican, I'm secretly pro Putin, antisemitic, a troll and working for the D's.
That's cult like thinking, guys. We should cut that out. We're not Obama voters in 2008. We can disagree with Trump on things. That's okay.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (uCjyK)
Nobody (at least nobody serious) is arguing we should not be able to disagree with Trump. I don't think anyone here agrees with him 100% of the time on 100% of the issues.
But that's not what MisHum said, and it's not what other posters are saying either. They're saying that either "it makes no difference who the president is," or "as long as the trains run on time, who cares what's happening in the camps."
That's insane.
That's cult like thinking, guys. We should cut that out. We're not Obama voters in 2008. We can disagree with Trump on things. That's okay.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (uCjyK)
Nobody (at least nobody serious) is arguing we should not be able to disagree with Trump. I don't think anyone here agrees with him 100% of the time on 100% of the issues.
But that's not what MisHum said, and it's not what other posters are saying either. They're saying that either "it makes no difference who the president is," or "as long as the trains run on time, who cares what's happening in the camps."
That's insane.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (fCgdX)
75
Mrs928 called me in to see a rerun of Perry Mason last evening where Leonard Nimoy was the murderer.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (jc0TO)
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Oh my God. Run Charles, before it's too late!
@zerohedge
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FRANCE PROPOSES CUTTING TWO PUBLIC HOLIDAYS TO PLUG BUDGET HOLE
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Let's see...you could do that...or you could kick the damn Muslim invaders out of your country and take your damn country back.
Its completely your call.
@zerohedge
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12m
FRANCE PROPOSES CUTTING TWO PUBLIC HOLIDAYS TO PLUG BUDGET HOLE
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Let's see...you could do that...or you could kick the damn Muslim invaders out of your country and take your damn country back.
Its completely your call.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (TN0g+)
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or Actual Murderer, if you get my meaning.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (jc0TO)
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Has it occured to you exposing those ties right now might be very bad for the US?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (viF8m)
It might, or it might not. But this is a representative republic. We have to know what the government knows in order for us to vote wisely. We're supposed to be self governing people, right?
I think at the very least, a free people should have the right to know which of our elected officials are being blackmailed by intel agencies for having sex with underaged kids.
And if that fucks up something in the foreign affairs arena or Trump's BBB or whatever, so be it.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (viF8m)
It might, or it might not. But this is a representative republic. We have to know what the government knows in order for us to vote wisely. We're supposed to be self governing people, right?
I think at the very least, a free people should have the right to know which of our elected officials are being blackmailed by intel agencies for having sex with underaged kids.
And if that fucks up something in the foreign affairs arena or Trump's BBB or whatever, so be it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (uCjyK)
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Total unforced error on Tru p. But he did it because he assumed his supporters would trust the plan and shut up.
Didn’t work out like that.
It wasn’t the msm that said wait a second what are you talking about about? It was right wing, maga supporting media that asked the question. And rightfully so.
Didn’t work out like that.
It wasn’t the msm that said wait a second what are you talking about about? It was right wing, maga supporting media that asked the question. And rightfully so.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (ImXfC)
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Holy hell.
France might actually have ten working days in the year now instead of eight?
Poor bastards.
France might actually have ten working days in the year now instead of eight?
Poor bastards.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2025 11:20 AM (RlmPm)
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The DoJ as a whole is horribly corrupt. Bondi, as well as Patel and Bongino are/were getting fed horseshit from the lower decks. The real issue is that they didn't see this coming, didn't anticipate it. They knew ahead of time this was a problem. Whether they addressed it or not is debatable if for no other reason than the judicial coup underway.
It's entirely possible the info those 3 were provided as part of the "Epstein files" was wholly fictitious. The DoJ and it's sub agencies and bureaus like the FBI are still staffed by the enemy. Why wouldn't they feed their superiors anything and everything that would make the administration look incompetent and corrupt?
And I do think MAGA has latched onto the Epstein files as some sort of litmus test. But the basis for it has been deceptively edited to aid and abet the enemy.
YMMV
It's entirely possible the info those 3 were provided as part of the "Epstein files" was wholly fictitious. The DoJ and it's sub agencies and bureaus like the FBI are still staffed by the enemy. Why wouldn't they feed their superiors anything and everything that would make the administration look incompetent and corrupt?
And I do think MAGA has latched onto the Epstein files as some sort of litmus test. But the basis for it has been deceptively edited to aid and abet the enemy.
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 11:20 AM (Q4IgG)
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Would Trump work a coverup if it turned out that Bill Barr strangled Epstein with his own hands?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:21 AM (jc0TO)
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President made "Transparency" a promise during the 2024 campaign. And when the president and/or his AG aren't going to be transparent on a promise. The president needs to be called on it.
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I said virtually this same thing yesterday.
But as you concluded, MisHum --
OUT: Transparency.
IN: Through The Looking Glass.
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I said virtually this same thing yesterday.
But as you concluded, MisHum --
OUT: Transparency.
IN: Through The Looking Glass.
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 11:21 AM (E2cCq)
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And now I'm being told if I'm not 100% on board with every move Trump makes, I'm not True MAGA or a True Republican, I'm secretly pro Putin, antisemitic, a troll and working for the D's.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (uCjyK)
Welcome to the club. We have cookies and ice cream for new members.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (uCjyK)
Welcome to the club. We have cookies and ice cream for new members.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:21 AM (ImXfC)
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We have to know what the government knows in order for us to vote wisely.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (uCjyK)
And now you're back to 'nothing can be classified or we can't be well-informed voters.'
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (uCjyK)
And now you're back to 'nothing can be classified or we can't be well-informed voters.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (fCgdX)
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🚨 JUST IN - MATT GAETZ, who many wanted Trump to name as Attorney General over the past week in place of Pam Bondi:
"Pam Bondi is the BEST attorney general Donald Trump has had by a factor of ten thousand."
"Pam Bondi is a STAR and has our full admiration and support. To those who don't share my enthusiasm, look at how far we've come."
"The Bondi team successfully litigated away the judicial coup of nationwide injunctions. They did that. They won that for us."
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15-0 run of wins at the Supreme Court over the last 4 months.
With 62% of the attorneys of that dept. gone or resigning.
BuT whAT aBOuT tHe EPstiEN fILeS!!?? HUH? HUH?
"Pam Bondi is the BEST attorney general Donald Trump has had by a factor of ten thousand."
"Pam Bondi is a STAR and has our full admiration and support. To those who don't share my enthusiasm, look at how far we've come."
"The Bondi team successfully litigated away the judicial coup of nationwide injunctions. They did that. They won that for us."
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15-0 run of wins at the Supreme Court over the last 4 months.
With 62% of the attorneys of that dept. gone or resigning.
BuT whAT aBOuT tHe EPstiEN fILeS!!?? HUH? HUH?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (VlU/R)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (xTIDn)
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But that's not what MisHum said, and it's not what other posters are saying either. They're saying that either "it makes no difference who the president is," or "as long as the trains run on time, who cares what's happening in the camps."
That's insane.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (fCgdX)
I don't think either of those takes are insane. I think there is quite obviously a Deep State of which our permanent bureaucracy and intel agencies are a big part of, and of which Trump has spent the last 10 years angrily railing against, who worked against him at every step.
And I think the Deep State in many ways has much more power than any elected official, including the President.
Would I go as far as to say "it doesn't matter who we elect"? Probably not. But I can see why people would think that.
Remember voting harder and harder for 10 years because the R's were going to stop O'care (then repeal it)? And the constant failure theater? Yeah, clearly electing the right people didn't get us what we wanted, did it?
That's insane.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (fCgdX)
I don't think either of those takes are insane. I think there is quite obviously a Deep State of which our permanent bureaucracy and intel agencies are a big part of, and of which Trump has spent the last 10 years angrily railing against, who worked against him at every step.
And I think the Deep State in many ways has much more power than any elected official, including the President.
Would I go as far as to say "it doesn't matter who we elect"? Probably not. But I can see why people would think that.
Remember voting harder and harder for 10 years because the R's were going to stop O'care (then repeal it)? And the constant failure theater? Yeah, clearly electing the right people didn't get us what we wanted, did it?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (uCjyK)
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87 Today's fun fact:
A quarter of Somalia's GNP is remittances from Somalis in the United States.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (xTIDn)
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They'll now be getting 1% less.
A quarter of Somalia's GNP is remittances from Somalis in the United States.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (xTIDn)
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They'll now be getting 1% less.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
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Everyone's known he's been a troll since he showed up...right after Montec got banned. Weird coincidence...
But he colors in the lines and is just an ass.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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There are some people that would complain if they were hanged with a new rope. I tend to ignore their posts as purely rhetorical nonsense with no dialectic content. If one is bored, one can count the logical fallacies and tactics of a Sophist/demagogue depending on the issue.
And that is that nic's purpose--to piss on the wedding cake and rile people up. Nothing constructive in any posts, just sneering opinions.
But he colors in the lines and is just an ass.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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There are some people that would complain if they were hanged with a new rope. I tend to ignore their posts as purely rhetorical nonsense with no dialectic content. If one is bored, one can count the logical fallacies and tactics of a Sophist/demagogue depending on the issue.
And that is that nic's purpose--to piss on the wedding cake and rile people up. Nothing constructive in any posts, just sneering opinions.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (ctrM5)
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Good morning Mis Hum and Horde
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (+qU29)
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Something is happening in Spain. Mostly peacefull migrants.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (cn0nj)
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FRANCE PROPOSES CUTTING TWO PUBLIC HOLIDAYS TO PLUG BUDGET HOLE
Posted by: JackStraw
We could cut Pride Month and Juneteenth.
Posted by: JackStraw
We could cut Pride Month and Juneteenth.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (jc0TO)
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And now I'm being told if I'm not 100% on board with every move Trump makes, I'm not True MAGA or a True Republican, I'm secretly pro Putin, antisemitic, a troll and working for the D's.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (uCjyK)
Welcome to the club. We have cookies and ice cream for new members.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:21 AM (ImXfC)
Yeah, they're in the back, over by the three divisions of Marines marching on Tehran.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:15 AM (uCjyK)
Welcome to the club. We have cookies and ice cream for new members.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:21 AM (ImXfC)
Yeah, they're in the back, over by the three divisions of Marines marching on Tehran.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (fCgdX)
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Today's fun fact:
A quarter of Somalia's GNP is remittances from Somalis in the United States.
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I'm surprised its not more.
A quarter of Somalia's GNP is remittances from Somalis in the United States.
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I'm surprised its not more.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (TN0g+)
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Great ! Now CBD will have to wait 28 days for his best cut of boef, instead of 30!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:24 AM (g47mK)
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Tax on remittances.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 11:24 AM (cn0nj)
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No it's not a matter of "you must agree with Trump on everything". I can think that Bondi and Trump have made tactical blunders in how they've handled this. But I can also not particularly care because strategically it doesn't make a difference.
And I'm tiring of people who somehow KNOW that things are being hidden from them that will shift mountains were they released. I don't know that. YOU don't know that. It could be a bunch of victim affidavits with unverified accusations, as Dershowitz has said.
But it's much more satisfying (apparently) to know for certain what the contents of documents are that you haven't seen and can't see, and to go around demanding to see these things that you already somehow know about.
And I'm tiring of people who somehow KNOW that things are being hidden from them that will shift mountains were they released. I don't know that. YOU don't know that. It could be a bunch of victim affidavits with unverified accusations, as Dershowitz has said.
But it's much more satisfying (apparently) to know for certain what the contents of documents are that you haven't seen and can't see, and to go around demanding to see these things that you already somehow know about.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (+b4rY)
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Ive just arrived in kenya! Hello Gorilla!
Posted by: LASue at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (F7o80)
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (VE6XX)
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98 Tax on remittances.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 11:24 AM (cn0nj)
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Because of the OBBB, there is now one.
It's only 1%, but which government tax started low and just stayed there?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 11:24 AM (cn0nj)
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Because of the OBBB, there is now one.
It's only 1%, but which government tax started low and just stayed there?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (GBKbO)
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If there really is nothing on Jeff Epstein, then show us. I am willing to consider the position that there are no clients to name, no illegalities to pursue, but I need more than "Trust me, bro," from Trumpland to convince me.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (Je336)
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And now you're back to 'nothing can be classified or we can't be well-informed voters.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (fCgdX)
I'm more coming at it from "if the government can keep "classified" (while lying and says no evidence exists) the fact that our elected officials got caught in honey traps run by the CIA where underaged children were pimped to them and we just accept that" then why even pretend we're a self governing people?
That's how third world shitholes are run, not first world countries.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (fCgdX)
I'm more coming at it from "if the government can keep "classified" (while lying and says no evidence exists) the fact that our elected officials got caught in honey traps run by the CIA where underaged children were pimped to them and we just accept that" then why even pretend we're a self governing people?
That's how third world shitholes are run, not first world countries.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
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I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly. The feeding frenzy in Washington, D.C. was the Watergate hearings leading to the resignation of President Richard M. Nixon on August 9, 1974.
was too busy running around dugway proving ground to remember that. i was 11. i used to go for long walks in the desert. 'course, this is before i had any idea what they *did* in that desert...
was too busy running around dugway proving ground to remember that. i was 11. i used to go for long walks in the desert. 'course, this is before i had any idea what they *did* in that desert...
Posted by: anachronda at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (v3pYe)
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15-0 run of wins at the Supreme Court over the last 4 months.
With 62% of the attorneys of that dept. gone or resigning.
BuT whAT aBOuT tHe EPstiEN fILeS!!?? HUH? HUH?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (VlU/R)
So that’s new standard. As long as some good things happen, really bad things can be overlooked.
Got it.
With 62% of the attorneys of that dept. gone or resigning.
BuT whAT aBOuT tHe EPstiEN fILeS!!?? HUH? HUH?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (VlU/R)
So that’s new standard. As long as some good things happen, really bad things can be overlooked.
Got it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (ImXfC)
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103 If there really is nothing on Jeff Epstein, then show us. I am willing to consider the position that there are no clients to name, no illegalities to pursue, but I need more than "Trust me, bro," from Trumpland to convince me.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (Je336)
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"Show me nothing."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (Je336)
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"Show me nothing."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:26 AM (jc0TO)
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They're saying that either "it makes no difference who the president is," or "as long as the trains run on time, who cares what's happening in the camps."
That's insane.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (fCgdX)
I don't think either of those takes are insane.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (uCjyK)
You think 'President Kamala and President Trump are interchangeable'...
You think 'Trump and Co. haven't shown me a document I'm convinced exists' is comparable with 'exterminated millions of people'...
Check.
That's insane.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (fCgdX)
I don't think either of those takes are insane.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (uCjyK)
You think 'President Kamala and President Trump are interchangeable'...
You think 'Trump and Co. haven't shown me a document I'm convinced exists' is comparable with 'exterminated millions of people'...
Check.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:26 AM (fCgdX)
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The fact is that even if they release "The List", just having a name on it isn't enough evidence to bring before a grand jury.
So whether or not the list is disclosed in some fashion, nothing will happen either way.
People need to get over this and move forward, kinda like Trump suggested.
So whether or not the list is disclosed in some fashion, nothing will happen either way.
People need to get over this and move forward, kinda like Trump suggested.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (g47mK)
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108 Sex ed.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (cn0nj)
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Your mischaracterization is what is bullshit. If the administration story is believable, courts forbid the release of some of the material, some is grand jury testimony and not releasable, some is defamatory and false, and therefore not releasable, some is child porn, and much of the remainder is already released.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (RWvY0)
This. Nearly everyone bloviating about the Epstein files apparently has no idea of how the legal system actually works in this country. The same ignorance manifested in all the fantasies about mass arrests and sending senators to be tried by military tribunals at Gitmo which were heavily peddled during Trump's first term by a lot of the same people who are now feeding the frenzy about the Epstein trials. Some of these people are charlatans who will say whatever they think their base wants to hear (Bannon), some are trying to stoke anti-Jewish conspiracy theories (Tucker), some are insane (Loomer), and some are insane anti-Jewish charlatans (Vox Day).
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (RWvY0)
This. Nearly everyone bloviating about the Epstein files apparently has no idea of how the legal system actually works in this country. The same ignorance manifested in all the fantasies about mass arrests and sending senators to be tried by military tribunals at Gitmo which were heavily peddled during Trump's first term by a lot of the same people who are now feeding the frenzy about the Epstein trials. Some of these people are charlatans who will say whatever they think their base wants to hear (Bannon), some are trying to stoke anti-Jewish conspiracy theories (Tucker), some are insane (Loomer), and some are insane anti-Jewish charlatans (Vox Day).
Posted by: Wiese at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (1pand)
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If we can't have a list, I'd be willing to compromise with you by accepting you prosecuting some of the people who are on the list that doesn't exist. That works for me just as well.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (B9Prs)
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111 "Show me nothing."
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No Physics!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (g47mK)
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It's hardly even math.
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No Physics!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (g47mK)
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It's hardly even math.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
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Thx MusHum. Still willing to give Bondi , Patel and Bongino time. They walked into a nest of vipers in what should be one of the most important agencies in the federal government, Justice. The lifers are dug in like Alabama ticks and they're not going quietly. I favored dumping the entire databases of the FBI and DoJ on the Web and nuke them from orbit just to be sure. Since they didn't do that they've got to wade through and deal with the vipers one by one
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (volu5)
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‘ nothing will happen to the Diddlers of Epstein Island. Nothing will happen to the Swamp Creatures’
Nothing will happen except Epstein will get hung around Trump’s neck and the ‘Rats now have an issue.
Nothing will happen except Epstein will get hung around Trump’s neck and the ‘Rats now have an issue.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (jbnUc)
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The files are on my desk
Oopsie I meant there are no files.
Nothing suspicious about that guys. We’re 15-0 at scotus. Move along.
Oopsie I meant there are no files.
Nothing suspicious about that guys. We’re 15-0 at scotus. Move along.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (ImXfC)
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I much prefer the Original to the Next Generation, but last night I was flipping channels and the episode where Scottie appears in the Next Generation was on and quite enjoyable.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (TN0g+)
Scotty: What is it?
Data: It is...
it is...
It is green.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 11:18 AM (TN0g+)
Scotty: What is it?
Data: It is...
it is...
It is green.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (N1DT3)
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Yeah, they're in the back, over by the three divisions of Marines marching on Tehran.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (fCgdX)
And thank God Trump pulled back at the last second and didn't listen to the lunatics on Fox News and over here demanding we go in to Iran and do a regime change and how Persians are different than Arabs so this time a regime change will work.
I notice that the "you need to support Trump 100%" argument wasn't being made when Trump showed he wasn't in the mood to follow the neocons horrible fucking advice on Iran.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:23 AM (fCgdX)
And thank God Trump pulled back at the last second and didn't listen to the lunatics on Fox News and over here demanding we go in to Iran and do a regime change and how Persians are different than Arabs so this time a regime change will work.
I notice that the "you need to support Trump 100%" argument wasn't being made when Trump showed he wasn't in the mood to follow the neocons horrible fucking advice on Iran.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (uCjyK)
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Has it occured to you exposing those ties right now might be very bad for the US?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (viF8m)
It might, or it might not. But this is a representative republic. We have to know what the government knows in order for us to vote wisely. We're supposed to be self governing people, right?
I think at the very least, a free people should have the right to know which of our elected officials are being blackmailed by intel agencies for having sex with underaged kids.
And if that fucks up something in the foreign affairs arena or Trump's BBB or whatever, so be it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (uCjyK)
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As a young man having to face a difficult decision, and older & wiser man gave me some simple advice that I've never forgotten and has always served me well:
"NEVER be afraid of the truth."
Our "betters" treat us as if we can't handle the truth -- and its consequences -- a la Col. Jessup ...
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:13 AM (viF8m)
It might, or it might not. But this is a representative republic. We have to know what the government knows in order for us to vote wisely. We're supposed to be self governing people, right?
I think at the very least, a free people should have the right to know which of our elected officials are being blackmailed by intel agencies for having sex with underaged kids.
And if that fucks up something in the foreign affairs arena or Trump's BBB or whatever, so be it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:19 AM (uCjyK)
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As a young man having to face a difficult decision, and older & wiser man gave me some simple advice that I've never forgotten and has always served me well:
"NEVER be afraid of the truth."
Our "betters" treat us as if we can't handle the truth -- and its consequences -- a la Col. Jessup ...
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (E2cCq)
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Anyway, team Trump has not been friendly to me since I suggested that his claim that Ron De Santis was a worse governor than Andrew Cuomo and Gavin Newsom and insinuations that his wife faked cancer for sympathy were unnecessarily nasty got me labeled a "Desantard."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (Je336)
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The files that don't exist are on my desk.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 11:29 AM (cn0nj)
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Epstein is somewhere around number 15 on my top ten list of things to care about.
That doesn't mean I don't care. But it's not a priority to me. I can't help but notice now that known Trump haters (MSNBC for example) want to dwell on it
That doesn't mean I don't care. But it's not a priority to me. I can't help but notice now that known Trump haters (MSNBC for example) want to dwell on it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 11:29 AM (nrfI8)
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I need more than "Trust me, bro," from Trumpland to convince me.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (Je336)
I don't. Trump has more than earned my trust. I didn't vote for him in 2016. I'd have crawled over molten glass to vote for him in 2020 and 2024.
He's done, or attempted to do almost everything he promised. In that regard, Trump is orders of magnitude better than any president of my lifetime and he's earned a significant amount of trust to be spent on those times he needs to say 'please trust me.'
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (Je336)
I don't. Trump has more than earned my trust. I didn't vote for him in 2016. I'd have crawled over molten glass to vote for him in 2020 and 2024.
He's done, or attempted to do almost everything he promised. In that regard, Trump is orders of magnitude better than any president of my lifetime and he's earned a significant amount of trust to be spent on those times he needs to say 'please trust me.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:29 AM (fCgdX)
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I had forgotten all about Montec.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 11:30 AM (77rzZ)
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And I'm tiring of people who somehow KNOW that things are being hidden from them that will shift mountains were they released. I don't know that. YOU don't know that. It could be a bunch of victim affidavits with unverified accusations, as Dershowitz has said.
But it's much more satisfying (apparently) to know for certain what the contents of documents are that you haven't seen and can't see, and to go around demanding to see these things that you already somehow know about.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (+b4rY)
I'm more than certain things are being hidden, but I'm also certain they've been destroyed, so no mountains are going to be moved.
But it's much more satisfying (apparently) to know for certain what the contents of documents are that you haven't seen and can't see, and to go around demanding to see these things that you already somehow know about.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (+b4rY)
I'm more than certain things are being hidden, but I'm also certain they've been destroyed, so no mountains are going to be moved.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:30 AM (N1DT3)
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When Bondi started reviewing the files on her desk she discovered that it was an empty folder.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:30 AM (jc0TO)
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Harry @ 11:15 AM
I saw someone yesterday accuse you of being a troll. I have news for the (genuine) moron. I've been here for twelve years and Harry was en residence when I got here. How do I remember? Because his is the second best nick I've ever seen.
Let me rephrase this clearly...HARRY PARATESTES IS NOT A TROLL.
There. Now you may resume the quarrel over Blondi.
I saw someone yesterday accuse you of being a troll. I have news for the (genuine) moron. I've been here for twelve years and Harry was en residence when I got here. How do I remember? Because his is the second best nick I've ever seen.
Let me rephrase this clearly...HARRY PARATESTES IS NOT A TROLL.
There. Now you may resume the quarrel over Blondi.
Posted by: creeper at July 15, 2025 11:30 AM (zFwIe)
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Somalia's chief export is goats. Mostly to Saudi Arabia.
That's an improvement.
Somalia's chief export used to be slaves.
They'll never be asked to pay reparations, though.
That's an improvement.
Somalia's chief export used to be slaves.
They'll never be asked to pay reparations, though.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2025 11:30 AM (xTIDn)
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13
‘ I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly.
>>>>
I'm not 29 enough to remember that.’
That was the summer after Kindergarten for me.
‘ I'm old enough to remember the summer of 1974 pretty vividly.
>>>>
I'm not 29 enough to remember that.’
That was the summer after Kindergarten for me.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 15, 2025 11:30 AM (jbnUc)
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"Show me nothing."
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No Physics!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (g47mK)
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It's hardly even math.
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This is about me, isn't it?
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No Physics!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:27 AM (g47mK)
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It's hardly even math.
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This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Absolute Value at July 15, 2025 11:30 AM (TN0g+)
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You think 'President Kamala and President Trump are interchangeable'...
You think 'Trump and Co. haven't shown me a document I'm convinced exists' is comparable with 'exterminated millions of people'...
Check.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:26 AM (fCgdX)
Was that your takeaway from my comment? Because if you're just trying to make quick hot take points, twitter might be a better place for you to share your talking points of the day with the world or whatever you think you're doing here.
You think 'Trump and Co. haven't shown me a document I'm convinced exists' is comparable with 'exterminated millions of people'...
Check.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:26 AM (fCgdX)
Was that your takeaway from my comment? Because if you're just trying to make quick hot take points, twitter might be a better place for you to share your talking points of the day with the world or whatever you think you're doing here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:30 AM (uCjyK)
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Maybe the files on her desk were written in invisible ink.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:31 AM (ImXfC)
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>>It might, or it might not. But this is a representative republic. We have to know what the government knows in order for us to vote wisely. We're supposed to be self governing people, right?
You're smarter than that. There are things that every government we've had since guys dressed up as injuns and threw tea in Boston Harbor keep secret at least temporarily because exposing them would do more harm than good for the country.
Look who has been running this place for most of the last 20 years. Do you think they did some squirrely shit? Do you think Epstein was allowed to do his shit for decades with no legal problems by chance? Do you think he was given a slap on the wrist in FL despite numerous victims testifying against him cause Florida is secretly a blue state?
You don't want to know what Epstein was really doing more than I do. I've been tracking that scumbag for years. He was CIA. And right now Trump thinks, for whatever reason, it's best to let it be. We still have millions of illegals and a host of other shit to deal with. I'm ok letting it sit for now.
Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. None of the girls are going to be abused anymore.
You're smarter than that. There are things that every government we've had since guys dressed up as injuns and threw tea in Boston Harbor keep secret at least temporarily because exposing them would do more harm than good for the country.
Look who has been running this place for most of the last 20 years. Do you think they did some squirrely shit? Do you think Epstein was allowed to do his shit for decades with no legal problems by chance? Do you think he was given a slap on the wrist in FL despite numerous victims testifying against him cause Florida is secretly a blue state?
You don't want to know what Epstein was really doing more than I do. I've been tracking that scumbag for years. He was CIA. And right now Trump thinks, for whatever reason, it's best to let it be. We still have millions of illegals and a host of other shit to deal with. I'm ok letting it sit for now.
Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. None of the girls are going to be abused anymore.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:31 AM (viF8m)
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That's how third world shitholes are run, not first world countries.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure ALL the "first world" countries are run like that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure ALL the "first world" countries are run like that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:31 AM (N1DT3)
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Just got here. I'm starting to think the line, "much ado over nothing" is what is going on.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 11:31 AM (g8Ew8)
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134 Maybe the files on her desk were written in invisible ink.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:31 AM (ImXfC)
She never said she had a "list" she said she had the Epstein files....
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:31 AM (ImXfC)
She never said she had a "list" she said she had the Epstein files....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:32 AM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
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So my last post on this before I go outside and enjoy an Undercrown Robusto...
People here who have security clearances will understand what I'm going to say here. We quickly get used to not having the full picture on any classified work we're doing. We get a small piece of the whole and operate only within those limits. There are things we don't know, and we don't know WHAT we don't know. That's the entire point.
Example - guy with a Secret clearance is ordered to bomb some nondescript apartment building. He looks at the orders and on his own concludes that there's something horrible afoot, the people who live there are witnesses to corruption who need to be quieted, etc. When you get to the TS level, we see that the apartment building housed arms, troops, etc for a Muslim uprising against Warsaw or something. The first guy didn't know what he didn't know.
So, is there something else in this case? Was Epstein a sooper international man of mystery? Was he an idiot and a nobody? Both? Something else? Did he write stupid manifestos such that he had to be monitored? No one here knows, and generally no one else outside of a limited few does either.
People here who have security clearances will understand what I'm going to say here. We quickly get used to not having the full picture on any classified work we're doing. We get a small piece of the whole and operate only within those limits. There are things we don't know, and we don't know WHAT we don't know. That's the entire point.
Example - guy with a Secret clearance is ordered to bomb some nondescript apartment building. He looks at the orders and on his own concludes that there's something horrible afoot, the people who live there are witnesses to corruption who need to be quieted, etc. When you get to the TS level, we see that the apartment building housed arms, troops, etc for a Muslim uprising against Warsaw or something. The first guy didn't know what he didn't know.
So, is there something else in this case? Was Epstein a sooper international man of mystery? Was he an idiot and a nobody? Both? Something else? Did he write stupid manifestos such that he had to be monitored? No one here knows, and generally no one else outside of a limited few does either.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:32 AM (PzXaK)
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The Epstein Folders.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 11:32 AM (cn0nj)
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Breaking: Trump urges 'justice' for Schiff after Fannie Mae identifies possible mortgage fraud
FBI investigating N.Y. AG over real estate transactions
... glass houses and all that stuff
FBI investigating N.Y. AG over real estate transactions
... glass houses and all that stuff
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (RHGPo)
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And lets all get on our uber-ethical high horse and neuter the administration going into the next election cycle, then deal with another 2 years of "impreachment."
There has been an intervening 4 years of Biden malfeasance to corrupt the Epstein investigation.
There has been an intervening 4 years of Biden malfeasance to corrupt the Epstein investigation.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (qwx/I)
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84 And now I'm being told if I'm not 100% on board with every move Trump makes, I'm not True MAGA or a True Republican, I'm secretly pro Putin, antisemitic, a troll and working for the D's.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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I don't rate you as a troll unlike the other nic. Basically when you pick certain targets and not others such as Democrat insanity, then it makes it more about your opinions differing from the mainstream here than any content behind your posts.
Your posts punch to the right Harry without any indication of how the Democrats have went batshit crazy. Never seen complaints in your posts about the shoddy injustice that the Jan 6ers got and there were a lot more of them than your cause du jour. Never seen you complain about the endless horrors that Jews and Israel face every da, etc. Nor the blackrobed rascals abusing their positions.
If you are going to be an advocate for the weak and powerless, you have to be consistent with your application of 'justice'. Otherwise one becomes a gadfly that tries to afflict those here with personal concerns, not universal ones.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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I don't rate you as a troll unlike the other nic. Basically when you pick certain targets and not others such as Democrat insanity, then it makes it more about your opinions differing from the mainstream here than any content behind your posts.
Your posts punch to the right Harry without any indication of how the Democrats have went batshit crazy. Never seen complaints in your posts about the shoddy injustice that the Jan 6ers got and there were a lot more of them than your cause du jour. Never seen you complain about the endless horrors that Jews and Israel face every da, etc. Nor the blackrobed rascals abusing their positions.
If you are going to be an advocate for the weak and powerless, you have to be consistent with your application of 'justice'. Otherwise one becomes a gadfly that tries to afflict those here with personal concerns, not universal ones.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (uCjyK)
Your hysteria is embarrassing.
We were nowhere near sending troops into Iran, and I don't recall a single commenter here supportive of that.
Your hysteria is embarrassing.
We were nowhere near sending troops into Iran, and I don't recall a single commenter here supportive of that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (L5An7)
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No it's not a matter of "you must agree with Trump on everything". I can think that Bondi and Trump have made tactical blunders in how they've handled this. But I can also not particularly care because strategically it doesn't make a difference.
And I'm tiring of people who somehow KNOW that things are being hidden from them that will shift mountains were they released. I don't know that. YOU don't know that. It could be a bunch of victim affidavits with unverified accusations, as Dershowitz has said.
But it's much more satisfying (apparently) to know for certain what the contents of documents are that you haven't seen and can't see, and to go around demanding to see these things that you already somehow know about.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (+b4rY)
Yeah, there's a whole mythology around the files which has been accepted as unquestioned fact. Everyone believes, or pretends to believe, that the files are full of video of their favorite bad guys in DC, Hollywood, or Wall Street doing unspeakable things, or have neatly typed invoices with entries like "Bill Gates...a dozen underage sex slaves." That's thinking born from TV shows and movies, not reality.
And I'm tiring of people who somehow KNOW that things are being hidden from them that will shift mountains were they released. I don't know that. YOU don't know that. It could be a bunch of victim affidavits with unverified accusations, as Dershowitz has said.
But it's much more satisfying (apparently) to know for certain what the contents of documents are that you haven't seen and can't see, and to go around demanding to see these things that you already somehow know about.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (+b4rY)
Yeah, there's a whole mythology around the files which has been accepted as unquestioned fact. Everyone believes, or pretends to believe, that the files are full of video of their favorite bad guys in DC, Hollywood, or Wall Street doing unspeakable things, or have neatly typed invoices with entries like "Bill Gates...a dozen underage sex slaves." That's thinking born from TV shows and movies, not reality.
Posted by: Wiese at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (1pand)
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23 I'm not sure Bondi is calling the plays on this...
She’s not. Whatever Bondi’s doing is what Trump is telling her to do.
She’s not. Whatever Bondi’s doing is what Trump is telling her to do.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (jbnUc)
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I'm reminded of the definition of a cynic, can't recall who said it:
"A cynic is someone who, upon catching the scent of flowers, asks where is the funeral."
"A cynic is someone who, upon catching the scent of flowers, asks where is the funeral."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (VlU/R)
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She never said she had a "list" she said she had the Epstein files....
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she also said she can see Russia from her house
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she also said she can see Russia from her house
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (g47mK)
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Tirrell absolutely deserved to be fired - he's the shitbag who oversaw the "Ethics" of the Jack Smith investigation and said "oh yeah, I'm good with that." But in waiting until she was under fire for the Epstein mess, Bondi did the right thing at the absolutely wrong time. Tirrell should have been fired months ago, there was no excuse for keeping him around ever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (uWKK8)
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145 Your hysteria is embarrassing.
We were nowhere near sending troops into Iran, and I don't recall a single commenter here supportive of that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (L5An7)
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We were secretly being moved into position to support it by the Deep State who was controlling Trump and would force him to do regime change in Iran with trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of ground troops.
The deep state, man. It owned Trump, and bombing Fordow was the evidence.
We were nowhere near sending troops into Iran, and I don't recall a single commenter here supportive of that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (L5An7)
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We were secretly being moved into position to support it by the Deep State who was controlling Trump and would force him to do regime change in Iran with trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of ground troops.
The deep state, man. It owned Trump, and bombing Fordow was the evidence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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In my former employ, we had ways of dealing with the negative nellies, the nattering nabobs, like "Go Time" and "Harry".
Tortured, shot, and sent to the Russian Front!
Tortured, shot, and sent to the Russian Front!
Posted by: Major Hochstetter at July 15, 2025 11:34 AM (G5+As)
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Didn't it take some time to get the "files" ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:34 AM (VE6XX)
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Nothings
Nothing more than nothings
Trying to forget my
Nothings of love, of love
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Nothing from nothing is none.
Nothing more than nothings
Trying to forget my
Nothings of love, of love
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Nothing from nothing is none.
Posted by: Billy Preston at July 15, 2025 11:34 AM (TN0g+)
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Our "betters" treat us as if we can't handle the truth -- and its consequences -- a la Col. Jessup ...
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (E2cCq)
They are not doing it under some paternal urge to protect our feelings.
They're lying to protect their own asses.
And they came up with an insultingly stupid cover story (not even a story, just "everything we said before and all the evidence you've seen is bullshit. Move on.") and are now adding insult to injury by acting like this is just some weird lefty conspiracy theory and who cares if the CIA or Mossad or MI6 or whoever is pimping out teenaged American girls to disgusting lecherous older men, who also probably run our society and culture, and are also most likely being blackmailed by said intel agencies in to doing their bidding instead of the bidding of the people who elected them.
What really matters is that the DOJ got an asinine TRO overturned!
Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 11:28 AM (E2cCq)
They are not doing it under some paternal urge to protect our feelings.
They're lying to protect their own asses.
And they came up with an insultingly stupid cover story (not even a story, just "everything we said before and all the evidence you've seen is bullshit. Move on.") and are now adding insult to injury by acting like this is just some weird lefty conspiracy theory and who cares if the CIA or Mossad or MI6 or whoever is pimping out teenaged American girls to disgusting lecherous older men, who also probably run our society and culture, and are also most likely being blackmailed by said intel agencies in to doing their bidding instead of the bidding of the people who elected them.
What really matters is that the DOJ got an asinine TRO overturned!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:35 AM (uCjyK)
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152 In my former employ, we had ways of dealing with the negative nellies, the nattering nabobs, like "Go Time" and "Harry".
Tortured, shot, and sent to the Russian Front!
Posted by: Major Hochstetter at July 15, 2025 11:34 AM (G5+As)
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Man...I feel bad about my black pills that lasted for a couple of years and started lifting about a year ago.
Tortured, shot, and sent to the Russian Front!
Posted by: Major Hochstetter at July 15, 2025 11:34 AM (G5+As)
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Man...I feel bad about my black pills that lasted for a couple of years and started lifting about a year ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:35 AM (ImXfC)
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I could never trust any politician. Including Trump.
Unless there is some transparency in the Epstein matter, I am just going to assume that powerful people are being protected from exposure. Occam's Razor.
Unless there is some transparency in the Epstein matter, I am just going to assume that powerful people are being protected from exposure. Occam's Razor.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:35 AM (Je336)
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I'm out.
Posted by: creeper at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (zFwIe)
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[The Blade sticks head back in]
[Smells acrid odor of pointless shit-throwing]
[Makes "they know not what they do" expression]
[Leaves again]
[Smells acrid odor of pointless shit-throwing]
[Makes "they know not what they do" expression]
[Leaves again]
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (iFTx/)
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159 I'm out.
Posted by: creeper at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (zFwIe)
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Don't go.
I was going to make espresso.
Posted by: creeper at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (zFwIe)
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Don't go.
I was going to make espresso.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (VE6XX)
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160 [The Blade sticks head back in]
[Smells acrid odor of pointless shit-throwing]
[Makes "they know not what they do" expression]
[Leaves again]
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (iFTx/)
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There was some Star Trek talk!
[Smells acrid odor of pointless shit-throwing]
[Makes "they know not what they do" expression]
[Leaves again]
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (iFTx/)
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There was some Star Trek talk!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
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I got a lot of random scattered thoughts on this. I'll see if I can explain it since writing isn't exactly my strong suit. I'm assuming non of trumps team had full access to any of this stuff until he became president. We also don't know how much of it was disappeared during the incredible husk's 4 years. On one hand lets say none of it was buried. Is it possible once trumps team got an actual look they were horrified at what they found? Is it some weird lynch pin scenario? What if heads of allied countries are implicated? They tried to get trump for saying pussy. We heard from all the "muh principal" types who would vote in fucking satan over trump just for that alone. The army of darkness is marching. Look at that douchebag that might become mayor of NYC. The enemies are at the gates everywhere waiting, just waiting for the moment voters do the muh principle dance. What happens if this epstein list has the power to topple countries? Or, our own? Problem is we don't know, and it sure as shit wouldn't topple dictatorships, only the mushy west. It could be a frigging pandora's box for all we know. I don't know, we don't know, but sometimes certain things probably should stay buried.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Epstein's Mom at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (TN0g+)
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118 The files are on my desk
Oopsie I meant there are no files.
Nothing suspicious about that guys. We’re 15-0 at scotus. Move along.
This. If Bondi was talking out her ass when she said all the dirt was on her desk, she needs to say so, and explain why she did it. Don't tell me "trust Trump". I don't trust any politician.
Oopsie I meant there are no files.
Nothing suspicious about that guys. We’re 15-0 at scotus. Move along.
This. If Bondi was talking out her ass when she said all the dirt was on her desk, she needs to say so, and explain why she did it. Don't tell me "trust Trump". I don't trust any politician.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:37 AM (Riz8t)
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"Maybe the files on her desk were written in invisible ink.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
All she had to do was heat them up over a candle. It works in the movies.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
All she had to do was heat them up over a candle. It works in the movies.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 11:37 AM (GUOwU)
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Man...I feel bad about my black pills that lasted for a couple of years and started lifting about a year ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
Reminds me of the time I mixed up my laxatives with my antidepressants.
I felt really good about being constipated.
Man...I feel bad about my black pills that lasted for a couple of years and started lifting about a year ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
Reminds me of the time I mixed up my laxatives with my antidepressants.
I felt really good about being constipated.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:37 AM (PzXaK)
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There was some Star Trek talk!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
You know what you need to do.
*glances at break-in-case-of-emergency case filled with Prometheus takes*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
You know what you need to do.
*glances at break-in-case-of-emergency case filled with Prometheus takes*
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (Mxf84)
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Well, that was fun
Posted by: YosemiteSatchmo at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (cFQNZ)
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Unless there is some transparency in the Epstein matter, I am just going to assume that powerful people are being protected from exposure. Occam's Razor.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:35 AM (Je336)
That's not Occam's Razor here. Occam's Razor would suggest there isn't a list.
A global conspiracy of hundreds, if not thousands of powerful people to self-protect is far, far more complicated than 'there isn't a list.'
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:35 AM (Je336)
That's not Occam's Razor here. Occam's Razor would suggest there isn't a list.
A global conspiracy of hundreds, if not thousands of powerful people to self-protect is far, far more complicated than 'there isn't a list.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (fCgdX)
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I'm also reminded of the tediousness of some of the hobbyhorses some of you all want to ride into the ground.
Like the time Ace threatened to ban the next asshole who demanded more Syria content.
At some point, you gotta realize you're just exhausting, not converting.
Like the time Ace threatened to ban the next asshole who demanded more Syria content.
At some point, you gotta realize you're just exhausting, not converting.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (VlU/R)
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Let's spin em all up with Epstein in this hand and MOP Iran with the other one.
Pwwuweep - Daffy Duck golden egg move.
Pwwuweep - Daffy Duck golden egg move.
Posted by: DaveA at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (FhXTo)
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Some of these people are charlatans who will say whatever they think their base wants to hear (Bannon), some are trying to stoke anti-Jewish conspiracy theories (Tucker), some are insane (Loomer), and some are insane anti-Jewish charlatans (Vox Day).
Posted by: Wiese
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True. If you ain't paying for influencers and their opinions, then you are the product being sold.
Posted by: Wiese
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True. If you ain't paying for influencers and their opinions, then you are the product being sold.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (ctrM5)
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168 Reminds me of the time I mixed up my laxatives with my antidepressants.
I felt really good about being constipated.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:37 AM (PzXaK)
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"This is an interesting development..."
I felt really good about being constipated.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:37 AM (PzXaK)
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"This is an interesting development..."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)
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>>and bombing Fordow was the evidence.
According to Trump, the planning for the bombing of Fordow was going on for 20 years. And not a single person here had any idea.
Should that have been made public as well?
According to Trump, the planning for the bombing of Fordow was going on for 20 years. And not a single person here had any idea.
Should that have been made public as well?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (viF8m)
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I challenge ANYONE here to defend the idea that Kamala's presidency would look exactly like Trump's second term.…
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
Ask the 4am club
The 4am Club thinks they are living on a different timeline in which Kamala Harris won the 2024 elections.
video 1:20
Links to X:
https://bit.ly/the-4am-club
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
Ask the 4am club
The 4am Club thinks they are living on a different timeline in which Kamala Harris won the 2024 elections.
video 1:20
Links to X:
https://bit.ly/the-4am-club
Posted by: mindful webworker - just getting started at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (+kBwA)
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169 There was some Star Trek talk!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
You know what you need to do.
*glances at break-in-case-of-emergency case filled with Prometheus takes*
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (Mxf84)
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I hadn't even considered it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
You know what you need to do.
*glances at break-in-case-of-emergency case filled with Prometheus takes*
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (Mxf84)
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I hadn't even considered it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)
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hey good on ya whig for trying
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (Pv3Rg)
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If we're using it as Kompromat, then good on them. It's like invoking Kaiser Soze in the underworld. Suggesting Bondi is using them to trap Roberts? Brilliant.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 11:38 AM (qwx/I)
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The nattering nabobs of negativism. I think Spiro Agnew was onto something there…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 11:39 AM (nrfI8)
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The whole dynamic needs to be changed. Every government employee, even the fricking mailman raises their right hand and gets sworn in.
Nobody in government ever gets sworn out. You’re always under oath. Forever, that’s because working for government is a privilege not a right. None of this “I take the 5th amendment” bullshit either. None of this “I’m retired/quit/fired you can’t axe me nothin” nonsense.
The days of the mandarin or untouchable political class are over. You cocksuckers work for Americans, not the other way around.
Nobody in government ever gets sworn out. You’re always under oath. Forever, that’s because working for government is a privilege not a right. None of this “I take the 5th amendment” bullshit either. None of this “I’m retired/quit/fired you can’t axe me nothin” nonsense.
The days of the mandarin or untouchable political class are over. You cocksuckers work for Americans, not the other way around.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 11:39 AM (5j54Z)
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Just remember if they’re lying to you about this they’re lying to you about other things.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:39 AM (ImXfC)
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167 "Maybe the files on her desk were written in invisible ink.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
All she had to do was heat them up over a candle. It works in the movies.
That's old school. After that, it was microfilm, then a chip, and now a thumb drive. I predict an upload directly to the courier's brain soon.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
All she had to do was heat them up over a candle. It works in the movies.
That's old school. After that, it was microfilm, then a chip, and now a thumb drive. I predict an upload directly to the courier's brain soon.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:39 AM (Riz8t)
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184 That's old school. After that, it was microfilm, then a chip, and now a thumb drive. I predict an upload directly to the courier's brain soon.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:39 AM (Riz8t)
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Real state secrets are written by hand in cursive.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:39 AM (Riz8t)
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Real state secrets are written by hand in cursive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
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Problem is we don't know, and it sure as shit wouldn't topple dictatorships, only the mushy west. It could be a frigging pandora's box for all we know. I don't know, we don't know, but sometimes certain things probably should stay buried.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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I think your opinion came through just fine. One has to fight off the alligators before one can drain the swamp.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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I think your opinion came through just fine. One has to fight off the alligators before one can drain the swamp.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:40 AM (ctrM5)
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Just remember if they’re lying to you about this they’re lying to you about other things.
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you should post under your real name, otherwise, how can we believe anything you post ?
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you should post under your real name, otherwise, how can we believe anything you post ?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:40 AM (g47mK)
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Trump has done nothing but deliver. His judgement has been pretty damn good for this country. Maybe you should chill the fuck out for like 5 minutes and let things play out.
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Well said. Avoiding a Media Ambush is the smart move. Bigger fish to fry. See Jerome Powell.
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Well said. Avoiding a Media Ambush is the smart move. Bigger fish to fry. See Jerome Powell.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (W3T6M)
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"I don't rate you as a troll unlike the other nic. Basically when you pick certain targets and not others such as Democrat insanity, then it makes it more about your opinions differing from the mainstream here than any content behind your posts.
Your posts punch to the right Harry without any indication of how the Democrats have went batshit crazy. Never seen complaints in your posts about the shoddy injustice that the Jan 6ers got and there were a lot more of them than your cause du jour. Never seen you complain about the endless horrors that Jews and Israel face every da, etc. Nor the blackrobed rascals abusing their positions.
If you are going to be an advocate for the weak and powerless, you have to be consistent with your application of 'justice'. Otherwise one becomes a gadfly that tries to afflict those here with personal concerns, not universal ones."
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I thought you were describing Thomas Massie at first.
Your posts punch to the right Harry without any indication of how the Democrats have went batshit crazy. Never seen complaints in your posts about the shoddy injustice that the Jan 6ers got and there were a lot more of them than your cause du jour. Never seen you complain about the endless horrors that Jews and Israel face every da, etc. Nor the blackrobed rascals abusing their positions.
If you are going to be an advocate for the weak and powerless, you have to be consistent with your application of 'justice'. Otherwise one becomes a gadfly that tries to afflict those here with personal concerns, not universal ones."
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I thought you were describing Thomas Massie at first.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (+b4rY)
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183 Just remember if they’re lying to you about this they’re lying to you about other things.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Certainly true for your statements.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Certainly true for your statements.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (ctrM5)
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That's old school. After that, it was microfilm, then a chip, and now a thumb drive. I predict an upload directly to the courier's brain soon.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:39 AM
[ Johnny Mnemonic has entered the chat ]
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:39 AM
[ Johnny Mnemonic has entered the chat ]
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (jc0TO)
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Jaysus H, folks. It took considerably longer than 7 months to f up the country this badly. And can anyone honestly doubt that we are way further ahead than anyone thought possible? Against the biggest band of crooks the world has ever seen.
Perhaps, chill.
Perhaps, chill.
Posted by: RI Red at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (NuZNd)
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E1 pay 1974 $344
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (DoOmQ)
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I think this is the perfect opportunity to turn over the mantle of power to our Somali overlords.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (qwx/I)
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"That's not Occam's Razor here. Occam's Razor would suggest there isn't a list."
But there is. It was put under seal at Ghislaine Maxwell's trial. Funny how no one remembers that.
But there is. It was put under seal at Ghislaine Maxwell's trial. Funny how no one remembers that.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (Je336)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (g47mK)
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Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)
I'm surprised you'd post that, whig. I post a lot about the justice system, including many interactions that you and I have had on the subject.
I also disagreed with everything about January 6, and I was watching a twitch livestream of the entire event live and came on here to talk about it and how ridiculous the reaction was. There's not much to say about it other than the whole thing was absurd, the scripts were pre-written, and the people involved got fucked.
As far as Israel? Do I have to kneel and say "black lives matter" to a group of black people here? What do you want me to say? Israel is inconsequential to me in the same way the politics of Kazakhstan are inconsequential to me. I wish them the best. Go live your lives however you want. What does that have to do with me as an American and American politics?
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)
I'm surprised you'd post that, whig. I post a lot about the justice system, including many interactions that you and I have had on the subject.
I also disagreed with everything about January 6, and I was watching a twitch livestream of the entire event live and came on here to talk about it and how ridiculous the reaction was. There's not much to say about it other than the whole thing was absurd, the scripts were pre-written, and the people involved got fucked.
As far as Israel? Do I have to kneel and say "black lives matter" to a group of black people here? What do you want me to say? Israel is inconsequential to me in the same way the politics of Kazakhstan are inconsequential to me. I wish them the best. Go live your lives however you want. What does that have to do with me as an American and American politics?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (uCjyK)
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"It really doesn't matter who the POTUS is anymore."
Bull and Shit. Sorry Mis Hum. You're way off base.
Bull and Shit. Sorry Mis Hum. You're way off base.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (4p0Xq)
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It MIGHT have been a tie, but I was the most correct about Iran here of anyone. While the blog was on fire and the world was ending and MAGA was over, I said the Iran story would completely leave the news because it would look to good for Trump and America. Thank you.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (Qr870)
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Maybe this and maybe that but now I will always have a nagging doubt about Bondi. Own Goal, no matter how it turns out.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (jc0TO)
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Well, I'd like to know it as well. But it was never my priority once it became apparent that money was being paid to everyone involved, and there were whispers of some exaggerations.
Do I want some scalps out of this? Yes. Is this an own goal by Trump? Absolutely. Am I incensed about it? No.
Do I want some scalps out of this? Yes. Is this an own goal by Trump? Absolutely. Am I incensed about it? No.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Gen Z at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
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199 It MIGHT have been a tie, but I was the most correct about Iran here of anyone. While the blog was on fire and the world was ending and MAGA was over, I said the Iran story would completely leave the news because it would look to good for Trump and America. Thank you.
I 'member
I also was in agreeance
I 'member
I also was in agreeance
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (63Dwl)
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Re Bondi:
I'm told, if you're from Florida, you know.
I'm told, if you're from Florida, you know.
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (DoOmQ)
Posted by: DaveA at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (FhXTo)
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199 It MIGHT have been a tie, but I was the most correct about Iran here of anyone. While the blog was on fire and the world was ending and MAGA was over, I said the Iran story would completely leave the news because it would look to good for Trump and America. Thank you.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (Qr870)
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I just remember being really wrong about MOPs because I misunderstood how they could actually work.
Delivering them within microseconds of each other is not something I expected possible.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (Qr870)
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I just remember being really wrong about MOPs because I misunderstood how they could actually work.
Delivering them within microseconds of each other is not something I expected possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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200 Maybe this and maybe that but now I will always have a nagging doubt about Bondi. Own Goal, no matter how it turns out.
I dunno she's honestly growing on me lately
tougher than I thought
I dunno she's honestly growing on me lately
tougher than I thought
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
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204
FRANCE PROPOSES CUTTING TWO PUBLIC HOLIDAYS TO PLUG BUDGET HOLE
Do they have a Juneteenth?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (63Dwl)
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They'll cancel Christmas and Easter and replace it with Ramadan.
FRANCE PROPOSES CUTTING TWO PUBLIC HOLIDAYS TO PLUG BUDGET HOLE
Do they have a Juneteenth?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (63Dwl)
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They'll cancel Christmas and Easter and replace it with Ramadan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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Trump has earned my trust. Most of the rest haven't, and certainly the MFM -which is stoking this supposed division - has done nothing but lie to my detriment. So Im going to continue trusting who i trust.
Posted by: LASue at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (F7o80)
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It's not ingratitude or lack of recognition for what Trump has done in 2025. It's knowing that Epstein had real dirt on the people that really run this country (the world?), and he was killed in his jail cell before any testimony and it's been covered up across the political spectrum. So if it's acceptable to the power players to let Trump do whatever he's doing but not acceptable to let Epstein spill, what is the end-game that these billionaire elites are after? Is whatever Trump is doing just a smoke screen (e.g. the pendulum will swing back later?) while they clone themselves, destroy the environment to 'save' it (cloud seeding, etc.), and promote whatever is needed to control the population to both save the world and keep themselves on top? This is why the Epstein situation is so disheartening. It doesn't mean we don't take what we can get from what Trump is doing, but it makes you think it won't matter in the end because Bill Gates et al is still fulfilling his evil ends because he got what he wanted (Epstein dead and Trump... whatever)
Posted by: bearski at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (Bhsk7)
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But there is. It was put under seal at Ghislaine Maxwell's trial. Funny how no one remembers that.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (Je336)
There was a list but then someone accidentally threw it out after the trial. No copies were made.
Oops
Ooopsie.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (Je336)
There was a list but then someone accidentally threw it out after the trial. No copies were made.
Oops
Ooopsie.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (ImXfC)
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Bastile Day and Surrenderathon?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (cn0nj)
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194 I think this is the perfect opportunity to turn over the mantle of power to our Somali overlords.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (qwx/I)
Didn’t realize you were reporting from Minneapolis.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (qwx/I)
Didn’t realize you were reporting from Minneapolis.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (Mxf84)
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Hear, hear! Thanks, MisHum.
Taking a break and paying attention to state and local politics is essential, too.
Taking a break and paying attention to state and local politics is essential, too.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (NFX2v)
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I, too, had a list. Different purpose, though.
Posted by: Oskar Schindler at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (wVcYX)
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209 [ Johnny Mnemonic has entered the chat ]
Thanks. I couldn't remember the name of the movie.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
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Remember when Keanu was a joke? Unable to distance himself from Ted Theodore Logan?
Ah, good times.
"It was divine!"
-a line from Dangerous Liaisons, which absolutely should have been followed by, "We had a most triumphant time!"
Thanks. I couldn't remember the name of the movie.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
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Remember when Keanu was a joke? Unable to distance himself from Ted Theodore Logan?
Ah, good times.
"It was divine!"
-a line from Dangerous Liaisons, which absolutely should have been followed by, "We had a most triumphant time!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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I thought you were describing Thomas Massie at first.
Posted by: the lower depths
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I regard him as Justin Amash, the sequel. Back when I did political research on elections/campaigns, etc., there was a term --beautiful losers.
The beautiful loser never engages in mundane politics but instead seeks the lofty mantle of principles leading to nothing getting done.
Politics is always the art of the possible (same thing goes for humans in general). It takes the Lord to do the impossible.
Posted by: the lower depths
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I regard him as Justin Amash, the sequel. Back when I did political research on elections/campaigns, etc., there was a term --beautiful losers.
The beautiful loser never engages in mundane politics but instead seeks the lofty mantle of principles leading to nothing getting done.
Politics is always the art of the possible (same thing goes for humans in general). It takes the Lord to do the impossible.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (ctrM5)
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France has 11 public Holidays.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (g47mK)
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It really doesn't matter who the POTUS is anymore."
Bull and Shit. Sorry Mis Hum. You're way offbase.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (4p0Xq)
I will defend Mis Hum here because I *think* people are reading it wrong. There is an understood clause there that doesn't have to be said.
He's not saying there is zero difference on anything between presidents - he's saying when it comes to certain things there is zero difference and it is frustrating.
And that's a big difference. And it's true. I could be wrong about what he means though in which case carry on.
Bull and Shit. Sorry Mis Hum. You're way offbase.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 11:42 AM (4p0Xq)
I will defend Mis Hum here because I *think* people are reading it wrong. There is an understood clause there that doesn't have to be said.
He's not saying there is zero difference on anything between presidents - he's saying when it comes to certain things there is zero difference and it is frustrating.
And that's a big difference. And it's true. I could be wrong about what he means though in which case carry on.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (Qr870)
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"FRANCE PROPOSES CUTTING TWO PUBLIC HOLIDAYS TO PLUG BUDGET HOLE
Posted by: JackStraw"
I think those would be July and August
Posted by: JackStraw"
I think those would be July and August
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (GUOwU)
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All saints day (11/1) is a public holiday. And st. Stephen's - 12/26.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (g47mK)
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France has 11 public Holidays.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM
As do we. Coincidence?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM
As do we. Coincidence?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (jc0TO)
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Trump can walk and chew gum at the same time.
We're winning more with Trump than ever before in the lifetime of anyone here.
A lot of these wins are high-priority wins.
Long-term wins.
Long-sought wins.
That cascade into more wins later.
Including justice over this Epstein bullshit.
But, demanding he ACT NOW!?
Go fart in your bathtub, retard.
We're winning more with Trump than ever before in the lifetime of anyone here.
A lot of these wins are high-priority wins.
Long-term wins.
Long-sought wins.
That cascade into more wins later.
Including justice over this Epstein bullshit.
But, demanding he ACT NOW!?
Go fart in your bathtub, retard.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (VlU/R)
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England has a 4th of July.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (wVcYX)
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some will tell you to eat shit pebbles in diahrea
but its a hrad mix to get right you need to right diahrea
but its a hrad mix to get right you need to right diahrea
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (665yf)
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I just remember being really wrong about MOPs because I misunderstood how they could actually work.
Delivering them within microseconds of each other is not something I expected possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
You also confused two rep names which is basically unforgivable and also makes you pretty dumb.
Delivering them within microseconds of each other is not something I expected possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
You also confused two rep names which is basically unforgivable and also makes you pretty dumb.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (Qr870)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (g47mK)
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Shut up, Dunce.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (jc0TO)
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225 Trump can walk and chew gum at the same time.
We're winning more with Trump than ever before in the lifetime of anyone here.
A lot of these wins are high-priority wins.
Long-term wins.
Long-sought wins.
That cascade into more wins later.
Including justice over this Epstein bullshit.
But, demanding he ACT NOW!?
Go fart in your bathtub, retard.
Nah, I wouldn't want to blow out the candles at your Trump shrine.
We're winning more with Trump than ever before in the lifetime of anyone here.
A lot of these wins are high-priority wins.
Long-term wins.
Long-sought wins.
That cascade into more wins later.
Including justice over this Epstein bullshit.
But, demanding he ACT NOW!?
Go fart in your bathtub, retard.
Nah, I wouldn't want to blow out the candles at your Trump shrine.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
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It's not realistic to me that the FBI that can track down a random grandma from Iowa who stood on the Capitol steps on January 6 has no idea what rich and powerful people were Epstein's clients.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (Je336)
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You also confused two rep names which is basically unforgivable and also makes you pretty dumb.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (Qr870)
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Senator names!
Ha!
You also confused two rep names which is basically unforgivable and also makes you pretty dumb.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:46 AM (Qr870)
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Senator names!
Ha!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)
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You can tell the Deep State hates Bondi, and after missing on Hegsgeth, they've now made it their mission to get what they think is an easier and just as necessary scalp - Bondi. I could list all her accomplishments, but ONE tiny thing, which is really CIA's info (if anyone's at this point after multiple admins of destruction of evidence), is apparently enough to take her down when she's done 99 other amazing things...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (tOcjL)
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I tried to get assigned to Dugway as my first duty station at the recruiting office. They looked at me like I was from Mars. I always liked rambling around the desert southwest. Wasn’t savvy enough to say “OK, guess I won’t join, then. See ya. Let me know if a slot opens up”.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (5j54Z)
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When even Matt Gaetz is saying Bondi is a star largely because her DOJ, yea she gets credit for the wins not just the loses, has done a remarkable job punching the commies in the courts and is racking up wins at SCOTUS in an unprecidented fashion, maybe it might be time to take a second look.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (viF8m)
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Everyone on the Gregorian Calendar has a 4th of July.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (jc0TO)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (L5An7)
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‘ FRANCE PROPOSES CUTTING TWO PUBLIC HOLIDAYS TO PLUG BUDGET HOLE’
I hope that they don’t plug CBD’s budget hole.
‘ FRANCE PROPOSES CUTTING TWO PUBLIC HOLIDAYS TO PLUG BUDGET HOLE’
I hope that they don’t plug CBD’s budget hole.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (jbnUc)
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I will defend Mis Hum here because I *think* people are reading it wrong. There is an understood clause there that doesn't have to be said.
He's not saying there is zero difference on anything between presidents - he's saying when it comes to certain things there is zero difference and it is frustrating.
And that's a big difference. And it's true. I could be wrong about what he means though in which case carry on.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM
I think his words were pretty clear to me. I mean he went all Eeyore on it.
He's not saying there is zero difference on anything between presidents - he's saying when it comes to certain things there is zero difference and it is frustrating.
And that's a big difference. And it's true. I could be wrong about what he means though in which case carry on.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM
I think his words were pretty clear to me. I mean he went all Eeyore on it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (4p0Xq)
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232 It's not realistic to me that the FBI that can track down a random grandma from Iowa who stood on the Capitol steps on January 6 has no idea what rich and powerful people were Epstein's clients.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (Je336)
“We also can’t seem to locate this cat who was placing all these pipe bombs around D.C.!”
~ Eff Bee Eye
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (Je336)
“We also can’t seem to locate this cat who was placing all these pipe bombs around D.C.!”
~ Eff Bee Eye
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (Mxf84)
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I hope the so called Epstein List is never released. Make it part of the mythos and boogaloo of the so called democrat "elites" who are supposedly on the list and who also enjoy Comet Pizza, Spirit Cooking and using the Auto Pen.
Posted by: Let Epstein Die Already at July 15, 2025 11:49 AM (r/wv3)
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188 Trump has done nothing but deliver. His judgement has been pretty damn good for this country. Maybe you should chill the fuck out for like 5 minutes and let things play out.
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Well said. Avoiding a Media Ambush is the smart move. Bigger fish to fry. See Jerome Powell.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (W3T6M)
This is pretty much my attitude.
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Well said. Avoiding a Media Ambush is the smart move. Bigger fish to fry. See Jerome Powell.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 11:41 AM (W3T6M)
This is pretty much my attitude.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 11:49 AM (g8Ew8)
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232 It's not realistic to me that the FBI that can track down a random grandma from Iowa who stood on the Capitol steps on January 6 has no idea what rich and powerful people were Epstein's clients.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (Je336)
One has a cellphone ping and number attached and is current info.
One is 20+ years old in a less tech era and probably destroyed by multiple admins by now...
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 15, 2025 11:47 AM (Je336)
One has a cellphone ping and number attached and is current info.
One is 20+ years old in a less tech era and probably destroyed by multiple admins by now...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 11:49 AM (tOcjL)
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Ali taking another break from ratting out Jewish girls to Hezbollah to make his (for some reason longer and longer) set of cases.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:49 AM (Qr870)
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Hey remember how worked up people got when a gay ambassador working with the CIA to smuggle weapons from Libya to Turkey to give to the Free Syrian Army ISIS was killed?
Do we not think this "Epstein bullshit" might be a slightly bigger story than that? Or nah, who cares if our leaders are actively and currently being blackmailed by intelligence agencies because they got caught having sex with young girls?
And if that's NOT what was going on with Epstein (despite all of the evidence saying it was), why wouldn't they just release everything and why didn't they charge any Johns involved, and why were the John's not part of Ghislaines trial? You'd think our very over-charging happy prosecutors would have loved to have some of the Johns as co-conspirators, no? Make a RICO case out of it?
Do we not think this "Epstein bullshit" might be a slightly bigger story than that? Or nah, who cares if our leaders are actively and currently being blackmailed by intelligence agencies because they got caught having sex with young girls?
And if that's NOT what was going on with Epstein (despite all of the evidence saying it was), why wouldn't they just release everything and why didn't they charge any Johns involved, and why were the John's not part of Ghislaines trial? You'd think our very over-charging happy prosecutors would have loved to have some of the Johns as co-conspirators, no? Make a RICO case out of it?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:49 AM (uCjyK)
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238 France has 11 public Holidays.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (g47mK)
We have 10.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (L5An7)
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And full time employees start with 25 paid days off a year, it seems.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (g47mK)
We have 10.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (L5An7)
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And full time employees start with 25 paid days off a year, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)
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France has 11 public Holidays.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (g47mK)
We have 10.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM
You are forgetting Juneteenth.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (g47mK)
We have 10.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM
You are forgetting Juneteenth.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:50 AM (jc0TO)
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Three problems with the Epstein thing.
First, as everyone has said, Bondi promising the world and delivering nothing.
Second, it's the first right-wing conspiracy theory that's still entirely behind closed doors. Even if "nothing will happen" to Our Betters, we've seen the reality behind the origins of Covid, the vaccine, the voting machines, the Russia files, the autopen pardons, etc etc. Pedogate remains behind closed doors.
Third, the nature of the crime. We're used to being ruled by liars and thieves. Slavers and pedophiles is a bridge way too far.
First, as everyone has said, Bondi promising the world and delivering nothing.
Second, it's the first right-wing conspiracy theory that's still entirely behind closed doors. Even if "nothing will happen" to Our Betters, we've seen the reality behind the origins of Covid, the vaccine, the voting machines, the Russia files, the autopen pardons, etc etc. Pedogate remains behind closed doors.
Third, the nature of the crime. We're used to being ruled by liars and thieves. Slavers and pedophiles is a bridge way too far.
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 11:50 AM (IChGZ)
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He's not saying there is zero difference on anything between presidents - he's saying when it comes to certain things there is zero difference and it is frustrating.
And that's a big difference. And it’s true.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (Qr870)
No matter who the president is…
The US is the world’s policeman
The left runs all institutions
Corporate interests come before the interests of people
This list is long
And that's a big difference. And it’s true.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (Qr870)
No matter who the president is…
The US is the world’s policeman
The left runs all institutions
Corporate interests come before the interests of people
This list is long
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:50 AM (ImXfC)
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Remember when Keanu was a joke? Unable to distance himself from Ted Theodore Logan?
Ah, good times.
"It was divine!"
-a line from Dangerous Liaisons, which absolutely should have been followed by, "We had a most triumphant time!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
A LOT of his early work was just "Ted Theodore Logan" in a computer, or on a surfboard, or...
Ah, good times.
"It was divine!"
-a line from Dangerous Liaisons, which absolutely should have been followed by, "We had a most triumphant time!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
A LOT of his early work was just "Ted Theodore Logan" in a computer, or on a surfboard, or...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 11:50 AM (N1DT3)
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I also disagreed with everything about January 6.
What does that have to do with me as an American and American politics?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Never seen that but I don't see everything here. If you did, then I humbly apologize for overstating my assertions.
But anti-Semitism is here and present in the US along with its less mentioned cousin, anti-christianity, and yes. It is a problem.
Regarding a lot of the attacks here on aid to Israel, we usually forget that the Camp David Accords by Carter set out a formula for military aid to Israel AND Egypt in order to keep those two countries from going to war again.
Want to cut that aid, then the US has to disavow that agreement including the observers in the Sinai mission.
What does that have to do with me as an American and American politics?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Never seen that but I don't see everything here. If you did, then I humbly apologize for overstating my assertions.
But anti-Semitism is here and present in the US along with its less mentioned cousin, anti-christianity, and yes. It is a problem.
Regarding a lot of the attacks here on aid to Israel, we usually forget that the Camp David Accords by Carter set out a formula for military aid to Israel AND Egypt in order to keep those two countries from going to war again.
Want to cut that aid, then the US has to disavow that agreement including the observers in the Sinai mission.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5)
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I like the thought of Bondi RACKing up wins.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 11:50 AM (77rzZ)
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France has 11 public Holidays.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (g47mK)
We have 10.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (L5An7)
You've been away too long! We have 11. Juneteenth is now a Fed Holiday.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:45 AM (g47mK)
We have 10.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (L5An7)
You've been away too long! We have 11. Juneteenth is now a Fed Holiday.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (g47mK)
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It's not ingratitude or lack of recognition for what Trump has done in 2025. It's knowing that Epstein had real dirt on the people that really run this country (the world?), and he was killed in his jail cell before any testimony and it's been covered up across the political spectrum. So if it's acceptable to the power players to let Trump do whatever he's doing but not acceptable to let Epstein spill, what is the end-game that these billionaire elites are after? Is whatever Trump is doing just a smoke screen (e.g. the pendulum will swing back later?) while they clone themselves, destroy the environment to 'save' it (cloud seeding, etc.), and promote whatever is needed to control the population to both save the world and keep themselves on top? This is why the Epstein situation is so disheartening. It doesn't mean we don't take what we can get from what Trump is doing, but it makes you think it won't matter in the end because Bill Gates et al is still fulfilling his evil ends because he got what he wanted (Epstein dead and Trump... whatever)
Posted by: bearski at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (Bhsk7)
Oh, please. The "elites" aren't gods; most of them aren't even terribly bright.
Posted by: bearski at July 15, 2025 11:44 AM (Bhsk7)
Oh, please. The "elites" aren't gods; most of them aren't even terribly bright.
Posted by: Wiese at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (1pand)
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‘ And if that fucks up something in the foreign affairs arena or Trump's BBB or whatever, so be it.’
Wrong.
‘ And if that fucks up something in the foreign affairs arena or Trump's BBB or whatever, so be it.’
Wrong.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (jbnUc)
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I wish someone would plug my budget hole.
Posted by: Aliasjonesjones at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (vFG9F)
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A LOT of his early work was just "Ted Theodore Logan" in a computer, or on a surfboard, or...
Let's face it - he's not a great actor.
Let's face it - he's not a great actor.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (Riz8t)
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wait, when you say "we" do you mean France or the USA ???
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (g47mK)
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I think his words were pretty clear to me. I mean he went all Eeyore on it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (4p0Xq)
Maybe. I did say I could have it wrong. I think he's coming from a place of frustration and sometimes that calls for a bit of hyperbole - and leeway from a reader.
MisHum doesn't like me much anyway so it's fine if I'm wrong here.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (4p0Xq)
Maybe. I did say I could have it wrong. I think he's coming from a place of frustration and sometimes that calls for a bit of hyperbole - and leeway from a reader.
MisHum doesn't like me much anyway so it's fine if I'm wrong here.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (Qr870)
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Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (viF8m)
Bondi certainly has had successes, but the Epstein Fiasco was a mess. It should not have happened that way, and any rational analysis of it would show that it was poorly managed. She is also no friend of the Second Amendment, and that drives my primary dislike of her.
Bondi certainly has had successes, but the Epstein Fiasco was a mess. It should not have happened that way, and any rational analysis of it would show that it was poorly managed. She is also no friend of the Second Amendment, and that drives my primary dislike of her.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (L5An7)
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15-0 run of wins at the Supreme Court over the last 4 months.
With 62% of the attorneys of that dept. gone or resigning.
BuT whAT aBOuT tHe EPstiEN fILeS!!?? HUH? HUH?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (VlU/R)
So that’s new standard. As long as some good things happen, really bad things can be overlooked.
Got it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (ImXfC)
That's a cheap take. More like, with scores of good things in your 'plus' column, we don't abandon you over a few marks in the 'minus' column, especially when its just based on speculation of wrongdoing.
With 62% of the attorneys of that dept. gone or resigning.
BuT whAT aBOuT tHe EPstiEN fILeS!!?? HUH? HUH?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:22 AM (VlU/R)
So that’s new standard. As long as some good things happen, really bad things can be overlooked.
Got it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:25 AM (ImXfC)
That's a cheap take. More like, with scores of good things in your 'plus' column, we don't abandon you over a few marks in the 'minus' column, especially when its just based on speculation of wrongdoing.
Posted by: LASue at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (F7o80)
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Let's face it - he's not a great actor.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM
He doesn't have great range, but neither does Tom Cruise. Still, he kills in the right role.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM
He doesn't have great range, but neither does Tom Cruise. Still, he kills in the right role.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (jc0TO)
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Never mind Epstein, who killed the Black Dahlia?
Posted by: Paco at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (mADJX)
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263 Let's face it - he's not a great actor.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM
He doesn't have great range, but neither does Tom Cruise. Still, he kills in the right role.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (jc0TO)
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Acting is mostly about good casting.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM
He doesn't have great range, but neither does Tom Cruise. Still, he kills in the right role.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (jc0TO)
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Acting is mostly about good casting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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237 Julian Calendar, too. It just comes earlier.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (77rzZ)
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264 Never mind Epstein, who killed the Black Dahlia?
Posted by: Paco at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (mADJX)
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Hilary Swank?
Posted by: Paco at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (mADJX)
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Hilary Swank?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Tom Cruise is best when he is in a role where he can bulge his eyes. He has the extreme hidden stress thing down pat.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:54 AM (jc0TO)
Posted by: man at July 15, 2025 11:54 AM (tubbA)
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261 Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:48 AM (viF8m)
Bondi certainly has had successes, but the Epstein Fiasco was a mess. It should not have happened that way, and any rational analysis of it would show that it was poorly managed. She is also no friend of the Second Amendment, and that drives my primary dislike of her.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (L5An7)
An early mess that was probably intended to smoke people out in round one of firings. Notice, everyone one of her firings has been "clean"...
And she's done nothing against 2A in her current spot. What she feels personally has not effected her job, so why hold it against her?
Bondi certainly has had successes, but the Epstein Fiasco was a mess. It should not have happened that way, and any rational analysis of it would show that it was poorly managed. She is also no friend of the Second Amendment, and that drives my primary dislike of her.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (L5An7)
An early mess that was probably intended to smoke people out in round one of firings. Notice, everyone one of her firings has been "clean"...
And she's done nothing against 2A in her current spot. What she feels personally has not effected her job, so why hold it against her?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 11:54 AM (tOcjL)
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There is a tendency among the online right to talk of their preferred Bad Guys (the Deep State, the Elites, the WEF, "the Jews," the Freemasons, the Satanic pedophile rings, whatever) as if they were an omnipotent Godlike force; everything ultimately works out the way they want it, and all triumphs are really part of the plan. This is dumb, defeatist, and frankly blasphemous; whoever the Bad Guys are, they're mortals like us, not gods; the real God is still implementing His plan.
Posted by: Wiese at July 15, 2025 11:55 AM (1pand)
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Never mind Epstein, who killed the Black Dahlia?
Posted by: Paco at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (mADJX)
Whatabout Jack the Ripper? Lindbergh baby? JonBenet Ramsey? JFK? RFK?
Posted by: Paco at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (mADJX)
Whatabout Jack the Ripper? Lindbergh baby? JonBenet Ramsey? JFK? RFK?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 11:55 AM (wVcYX)
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Keanu was good in The River's Edge
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 11:55 AM (Pv3Rg)
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I recommend that since these girls in their 20s and 30s aren't getting due justice (aside from payouts), True Americans should form a posse to hunt down and lynch the elites whose names they think were written down in a notarized dossier.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 11:56 AM (qwx/I)
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I keep getting calls from Scam Likely. If I was a telephone solicitor with that name I would change it.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:56 AM (jc0TO)
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Well, fwiw the Stevens ambassador debacle, rumor control was he was there to retrieve US Stinger missiles that ended up in the “wrong” hands. Huge cluster fvck, and that’s why no help of any kind was forthcoming. It could have been worse than it turned out anyway, they left about 100 people high and dry. It was only because of heroic exertions on the part of people who were under no requirement to do so that the death toll was not far higher.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 11:56 AM (r09E4)
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She is also no friend of the Second Amendment, and that drives my primary dislike of her.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (L5An7)
That combined with trying to railroad Zimmerman (much of an imbecile as he was) in the case that intentionally cracked this country wide open culturally shows that she is either not good or owned by a not good contingent. She was enthusiastic for Baby Trayvon. No excuse for it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (L5An7)
That combined with trying to railroad Zimmerman (much of an imbecile as he was) in the case that intentionally cracked this country wide open culturally shows that she is either not good or owned by a not good contingent. She was enthusiastic for Baby Trayvon. No excuse for it.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:56 AM (Qr870)
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A LOT of his early work was just "Ted Theodore Logan" in a computer, or on a surfboard, or...
Let's face it - he's not a great actor.
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I...am an FBI! Agent!
Let's face it - he's not a great actor.
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I...am an FBI! Agent!
Posted by: Johnny Utah at July 15, 2025 11:56 AM (TN0g+)
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You've been away too long! We have 11. Juneteenth is now a Fed Holiday.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (g47mK)
New Years
MLK
Presidents
Memorial
Juneteenth
Independence
Labor
Veterans
Thanksgiving
Christmas
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 11:51 AM (g47mK)
New Years
MLK
Presidents
Memorial
Juneteenth
Independence
Labor
Veterans
Thanksgiving
Christmas
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM (L5An7)
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I'm amazed at how people don't realize that in order to charge someone with a crime, you need to have a witness who is willing to testify and participate in the prosecution. So far, the only one of the teenage girls who was willing to have her face plastered all over the newspapers, gossip rags and internet sites was Virginia Guiffre, who named Prince Andrew as her rapist. She sued and won a major settlement from him, got him practically excommunicated from the royal family, who also stripped him of titles, homes, etc. Then she ended up committing suicide. Others who also were on the island, have been mostly quiet except for the few that testified anonymously at Ghislane's trial. The flight logs have been published. The list of names on it, with juveniles redacted is public knowledge. Does that mean every one of them had sex with 16-17 year old girls on the island or in his home in NY? Highly unlikely. Without cooperative witnesses, who many have likely asked to be left alone, what case do you have?
Posted by: jen the original at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM (K45Rj)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM (jc0TO)
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281 Zimmerman (much of an imbecile as he was)
Picking a Jewish name was his first mistake.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM (jc0TO)
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"Should have listened, brother."
-Bob Dylan
Picking a Jewish name was his first mistake.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM (jc0TO)
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"Should have listened, brother."
-Bob Dylan
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
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well said jen
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 15, 2025 11:58 AM (Pv3Rg)
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Where are the Rose Law Firm billing records???
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)
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I keep getting calls from Scam Likely. If I was a telephone solicitor with that name I would change it.
Posted by: toby928
His cousin Potential Spam got my number somehow.
Posted by: toby928
His cousin Potential Spam got my number somehow.
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 11:58 AM (IChGZ)
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 11:58 AM (TN0g+)
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>>Bondi certainly has had successes, but the Epstein Fiasco was a mess. It should not have happened that way, and any rational analysis of it would show that it was poorly managed. She is also no friend of the Second Amendment, and that drives my primary dislike of her.
I don't like her 2nd Amendment views either. And you're a Yankees fan. Nobody is perfect.
And the Epstein issus is really a nit on a nat in the grand scheme of things. Trump got rid of USAID and people here yawn because it isn't sexy enough. In reality it is a thousand Epsteins.
I want the truth. I've waited for it for years, I can wait a bit longer. And it was Trump who made the call on releasing Epstein info.
I don't like her 2nd Amendment views either. And you're a Yankees fan. Nobody is perfect.
And the Epstein issus is really a nit on a nat in the grand scheme of things. Trump got rid of USAID and people here yawn because it isn't sexy enough. In reality it is a thousand Epsteins.
I want the truth. I've waited for it for years, I can wait a bit longer. And it was Trump who made the call on releasing Epstein info.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 11:58 AM (viF8m)
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That's a cheap take. More like, with scores of good things in your 'plus' column, we don't abandon you over a few marks in the 'minus' column, especially when its just based on speculation of wrongdoing.
Posted by: LASue at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (F7o80)
Who said anything about abandoning him? I want answers on the issue. That doesn’t mean I’m abandoning him.
This is the problem. You’re either 100% with Trump or you’re against Trump or abandoning him. It’s not binary.
Nothing wrong with criticizing your own side every now and then.
Which is why we’re 15-0 at scotus so why are you even bringing this Epstein stuff up, is such a ridiculous argument. I’m glad it’s 15-0. Hopefully it turns to 30-0. But that doesn’t mean Trump gets a free pass on everything else.
Posted by: LASue at July 15, 2025 11:52 AM (F7o80)
Who said anything about abandoning him? I want answers on the issue. That doesn’t mean I’m abandoning him.
This is the problem. You’re either 100% with Trump or you’re against Trump or abandoning him. It’s not binary.
Nothing wrong with criticizing your own side every now and then.
Which is why we’re 15-0 at scotus so why are you even bringing this Epstein stuff up, is such a ridiculous argument. I’m glad it’s 15-0. Hopefully it turns to 30-0. But that doesn’t mean Trump gets a free pass on everything else.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 11:58 AM (ImXfC)
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That combined with trying to railroad Zimmerman (much of an imbecile as he was) in the case that intentionally cracked this country wide open culturally shows that she is either not good or owned by a not good contingent. She was enthusiastic for Baby Trayvon. No excuse for it.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:56 AM (Qr870)
She's a politician. They all are. They stick their finger up to see which way the wind is blowing.
We all understand this sometimes. But then other times, we act like these people are "true believers" and it's not our place as lowly peasants to question them on anything.
It's weird.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 11:56 AM (Qr870)
She's a politician. They all are. They stick their finger up to see which way the wind is blowing.
We all understand this sometimes. But then other times, we act like these people are "true believers" and it's not our place as lowly peasants to question them on anything.
It's weird.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 11:58 AM (uCjyK)
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I'm just a lonely boy.
Posted by: Sad Keanu On A Park Bench at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (wVcYX)
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Acting is mostly about good casting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
Unless you're casting Gary Oldman, and then every choice is the right choice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
Unless you're casting Gary Oldman, and then every choice is the right choice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK8)
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Yeah, there's a whole mythology around the files which has been accepted as unquestioned fact. Everyone believes, or pretends to believe, that the files are full of video of their favorite bad guys in DC, Hollywood, or Wall Street doing unspeakable things, or have neatly typed invoices with entries like "Bill Gates...a dozen underage sex slaves." That's thinking born from TV shows and movies, not reality.
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It's our version of the "tipping point" delusion of the left.
They imagine the the Next Big Scandal about Trump will finally be The Scandal that tips the public against him.
We "IF we can just reveal all the evil these people do, everyone will turn against the Democrats!"
No. Most won't care. You think the "sterilizing kids is a human right" and the "dildos for daycare" crowd care about diddling kids? FFS.
This is politics; there will never be a clean outcome in this fallen world.
We're just degenerate gamblers betting our time on outcomes we can't control.
This is just another entertainment with high stakes.
If it really bothers you that the White Hats aren't winning, you might be better suited for TVLand.
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It's our version of the "tipping point" delusion of the left.
They imagine the the Next Big Scandal about Trump will finally be The Scandal that tips the public against him.
We "IF we can just reveal all the evil these people do, everyone will turn against the Democrats!"
No. Most won't care. You think the "sterilizing kids is a human right" and the "dildos for daycare" crowd care about diddling kids? FFS.
This is politics; there will never be a clean outcome in this fallen world.
We're just degenerate gamblers betting our time on outcomes we can't control.
This is just another entertainment with high stakes.
If it really bothers you that the White Hats aren't winning, you might be better suited for TVLand.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (g9iKZ)
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New Years
New Years
MLK
Presidents
Memorial
Juneteenth
Independence
Labor
Veterans
Thanksgiving
Christmas
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM
Cristoforo Colombo wept
New Years
MLK
Presidents
Memorial
Juneteenth
Independence
Labor
Veterans
Thanksgiving
Christmas
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM
Cristoforo Colombo wept
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (jc0TO)
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291 Acting is mostly about good casting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
Unless you're casting Gary Oldman, and then every choice is the right choice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK
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*shuffles away awkwardly*
-that movie where he plays a midget
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
Unless you're casting Gary Oldman, and then every choice is the right choice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK
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*shuffles away awkwardly*
-that movie where he plays a midget
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (GBKbO)
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279 My people demand St.Urho's day on the Fed calendar. Coffee, korppu, maybe some pickled herring, and vodka. Mid afternoon sauna, and repeat.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (gm9Sb)
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BTW, Bongino was back at work yesterday.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
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Acting is mostly about good casting."
So is fishing...
So is fishing...
Posted by: man at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (tubbA)
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AG Bondi simply misspoke. Files on desk-Flies on desk.
Posted by: Yard Guard at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (G5+As)
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Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (g9iKZ)
This has little to do with partisan politics. It is much bigger than that.
This has little to do with partisan politics. It is much bigger than that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (uCjyK)
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Fishing all about find the right spot.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:01 PM (jc0TO)
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Cristoforo Colombo wept
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (jc0TO)
Is it a federal.holiday?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (jc0TO)
Is it a federal.holiday?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 12:01 PM (L5An7)
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Bongino was back at work yesterday.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
Who got to him?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
Who got to him?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 12:02 PM (L5An7)
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Lon Chaney, Sr. Now there was an actor.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:02 PM (77rzZ)
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Well, if the adversary wanted to pick a divisive topic for us to focus on, this seems to be it.
Reminds me of the Great Chili Carrot battle. So many good people lost there.
Reminds me of the Great Chili Carrot battle. So many good people lost there.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (fz7Mb)
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Is it a federal.holiday?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 12:01 PM
I am pretty sure.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 12:01 PM
I am pretty sure.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (viF8m)
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*shuffles away awkwardly*
-that movie where he plays a midget
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (GBKbO)
And now I'm thinking of Jose Ferrer playing Toulouse-Lautrec.
-that movie where he plays a midget
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (GBKbO)
And now I'm thinking of Jose Ferrer playing Toulouse-Lautrec.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (uWKK8)
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304 Well, if the adversary wanted to pick a divisive topic for us to focus on, this seems to be it.
Reminds me of the Great Chili Carrot battle. So many good people lost there.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (fz7Mb)
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Why don't people get all up in arms over our copyright regime?
Life+70 is insane!
The Sonny Bono Act is an abomination!
Reminds me of the Great Chili Carrot battle. So many good people lost there.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (fz7Mb)
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Why don't people get all up in arms over our copyright regime?
Life+70 is insane!
The Sonny Bono Act is an abomination!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Columbus Day is a Federal Holiday.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (cn0nj)
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I had hundreds of Epstein files on my desk. Those girls must have been immaculately manicured.
Posted by: P. Bondi at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (IChGZ)
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307 *shuffles away awkwardly*
-that movie where he plays a midget
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (GBKbO)
And now I'm thinking of Jose Ferrer playing Toulouse-Lautrec.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (uWKK
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I've seen that movie! A John Huston joint.
-that movie where he plays a midget
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (GBKbO)
And now I'm thinking of Jose Ferrer playing Toulouse-Lautrec.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:03 PM (uWKK
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I've seen that movie! A John Huston joint.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm also reminded of one of my favorite lines from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"
"I can live with it, you can't."
Trump is doing what has to be done, even if it's against the Black vs. White moral code.
Some of you can't live with that. He can and is.
"I can live with it, you can't."
Trump is doing what has to be done, even if it's against the Black vs. White moral code.
Some of you can't live with that. He can and is.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (g9iKZ)
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302 Bongino was back at work yesterday.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
Who got to him?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 12:02 PM (L5An7)
I wonder - is it possible that not everything printed in Axios is completely true?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
Who got to him?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 12:02 PM (L5An7)
I wonder - is it possible that not everything printed in Axios is completely true?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (uWKK8)
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I’ve really liked most Keanu Reeves movies. Of course by the time we got John Wick 4 it was so played…. The first two Matrix movies are amongst my favorites
I mean not in the same category as Willie Wyler’s Ben Hur but quite entertaining nonetheless
I once ended up behind Reeves in line at an ice cream shop in Westwood. I left him alone
I mean not in the same category as Willie Wyler’s Ben Hur but quite entertaining nonetheless
I once ended up behind Reeves in line at an ice cream shop in Westwood. I left him alone
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (lepZb)
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If you think it's bad now wait till you see what he does with guns.
Posted by: No one. at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (CQ3Qb)
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302 Bongino was back at work yesterday.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
Who got to him?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 12:02 PM (L5An7)
He probably got back from his 3 day weekend at Busch Gardens...that he always planned on prior to Trump winning...
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
Who got to him?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 12:02 PM (L5An7)
He probably got back from his 3 day weekend at Busch Gardens...that he always planned on prior to Trump winning...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM (tOcjL)
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My people, St Urho, local drink , food and behavior. Dint forget blood and soil
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (QSrLX)
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I heard Axios was CIA.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (cn0nj)
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On balance, our country is in MUCH better shape these days due to Trump's actions. There are disappointments but they are overshadowed by the wins. I'll take an imperfect president (is there any other kind?) whose heart is in the right place over any potential alternative.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (rF2iL)
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For over a century, the land now occupied by the Watergate complex belonged to the Gas Works of the Washington Gas Light Company, which produced "manufactured gas", a mixture of hydrogen, carbon monoxide, methane, and other flammable and nonflammable gases, for heating, cooking, and lighting throughout Washington, D.C. Gas production ceased at the site in 1947, and the plant was demolished shortly thereafter.
Gaslighting is baked into the cake!
Gaslighting is baked into the cake!
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (w9Wax)
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Without cooperative witnesses, who many have likely asked to be left alone, what case do you have?
Posted by: jen the original at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM (K45Rj)
A lot of people don't necessarily want a legal conviction, they want a destroyed reputation.
And I understand that. If you're a shitbird, I want to know you're a shitbird.
I'm a transactional voter, though. Do most of the things I want you to do and avoid doing most of the things I don't want you to do, and I'll consider voting for you.
I simply choose not to look at the Epstein stuff in a vacuum.
Posted by: jen the original at July 15, 2025 11:57 AM (K45Rj)
A lot of people don't necessarily want a legal conviction, they want a destroyed reputation.
And I understand that. If you're a shitbird, I want to know you're a shitbird.
I'm a transactional voter, though. Do most of the things I want you to do and avoid doing most of the things I don't want you to do, and I'll consider voting for you.
I simply choose not to look at the Epstein stuff in a vacuum.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (fCgdX)
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What about Elvis's birthday?
Posted by: DaveA at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 12:05 PM (fz7Mb)
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Thank you very very much.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (cn0nj)
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I'm also reminded of one of my favorite lines from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"
"I can live with it, you can't."
Trump is doing what has to be done, even if it's against the Black vs. White moral code.
Some of you can't live with that. He can and is.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM
I would prefer that they not appear to lie to my face. Is that too much to ask? Just say nothing with a wink and a nod.
"I can live with it, you can't."
Trump is doing what has to be done, even if it's against the Black vs. White moral code.
Some of you can't live with that. He can and is.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 12:04 PM
I would prefer that they not appear to lie to my face. Is that too much to ask? Just say nothing with a wink and a nod.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (jc0TO)
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Jen,
exactly.
Without witnesses there is only circumstantial. A name being on a some list is useless. What crime did they commit?
Who wrote "The List"?
The List is a huge McGuffin, and it's most probably been compromised and you have no way of proving otherwise.
I'm pretty sure it is useless in Court and some people are trying to clue you in to this but sadly you will never be satisfied because the fact is that "Nothing Will Happen" is the bottom line.
exactly.
Without witnesses there is only circumstantial. A name being on a some list is useless. What crime did they commit?
Who wrote "The List"?
The List is a huge McGuffin, and it's most probably been compromised and you have no way of proving otherwise.
I'm pretty sure it is useless in Court and some people are trying to clue you in to this but sadly you will never be satisfied because the fact is that "Nothing Will Happen" is the bottom line.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (QB+5g)
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We will kill one celebrity a month until our demands are met.
Posted by: the Trees at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (jc0TO)
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A year ago today JD Vance was announced as PDT's running mate for VP.
Posted by: old chick at July 15, 2025 12:06 PM (F3Dlr)
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That combined with trying to railroad Zimmerman (much of an imbecile as he was) in the case that intentionally cracked this country wide open culturally shows that she is either not good or owned by a not good contingent.
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Zimmerman case was a bit more complicated. Bondi picked Corey as special prosecutor which frankly the local prosecutor had no problem with.
So you are essentially conflating Bondi picking Corey (who delegated to the trial attorneys) as special prosecutor as railroading Zimmerman.
In a similar case in GA, Gov. Kemp's AG used a special prosecutor from the Atlanta area to go after the three dudes in the jogging Arberry case because the local DA refused to prosecute. Those guys got convicted and are serving what is probably life sentences for them.
High profile cases get special prosecutors including the fake hate crime actor in Chicago--Jesse Smollett or some such.
I am certainly not aware of statements, etc. made by Bondi that indicated favorability to Zimmerman or to the Martin family so please point those out to me if you have them and I will revise my opinion accordingly.
Posted by: ...
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Zimmerman case was a bit more complicated. Bondi picked Corey as special prosecutor which frankly the local prosecutor had no problem with.
So you are essentially conflating Bondi picking Corey (who delegated to the trial attorneys) as special prosecutor as railroading Zimmerman.
In a similar case in GA, Gov. Kemp's AG used a special prosecutor from the Atlanta area to go after the three dudes in the jogging Arberry case because the local DA refused to prosecute. Those guys got convicted and are serving what is probably life sentences for them.
High profile cases get special prosecutors including the fake hate crime actor in Chicago--Jesse Smollett or some such.
I am certainly not aware of statements, etc. made by Bondi that indicated favorability to Zimmerman or to the Martin family so please point those out to me if you have them and I will revise my opinion accordingly.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (ctrM5)
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I would prefer that they not appear to lie to my face. Is that too much to ask? Just say nothing with a wink and a nod.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:06 P
*touches nose*
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 12:06 P
*touches nose*
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (MGB5H)
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There is a nood, and some of you are invited to it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (uCjyK)
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Let me add to my already jaded view: I went to a suburban public high school in the 80s. There were a number of girls in high school who were "good to go" / "DTF." Legitimately, it was mostly locker room talk but there were always few who did "take a year off" from school. This aspect of the culture does not seem to have changed much in the intervening years, though there are more dudes trying to be chicks than there were in 1986.
The fact that the avengers must face is that these Epstein girls, whatever the actual events, were not held against their will and were likely compensated for their activities.
The fact that the avengers must face is that these Epstein girls, whatever the actual events, were not held against their will and were likely compensated for their activities.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (qwx/I)
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I don't care.
It's obvious that you can't release lists of people who might not have done anything wrong and ultimately the Epstein thing is not going to make any material difference to the lives of Americans or the stability of World.
They shouldn't have overpromised, that was stupid. Perhaps a public inquiry would patch that hole.
Unfortunately, those people who won't be satisfied that there is no smoking gun and nobody is going to prison just need to suck it up.
It's obvious that you can't release lists of people who might not have done anything wrong and ultimately the Epstein thing is not going to make any material difference to the lives of Americans or the stability of World.
They shouldn't have overpromised, that was stupid. Perhaps a public inquiry would patch that hole.
Unfortunately, those people who won't be satisfied that there is no smoking gun and nobody is going to prison just need to suck it up.
Posted by: stv at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (XMeSM)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (4IClK)
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268 Tom Cruise is best when he is in a role where he can bulge his eyes. He has the extreme hidden stress thing down pat.
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He made his career dancing in skivvies. Jeebus, man up.
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He made his career dancing in skivvies. Jeebus, man up.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 12:09 PM (W3T6M)
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319 con't: Trump has made YUGE strides in the right direction. Maybe he flattened my flower bed dragging a fire hose, but he put out my house fire (figuratively).
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 15, 2025 12:10 PM (rF2iL)
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>>What about Elvis's birthday?
It's not until December. But I'll tell him you were asking after him.
It's not until December. But I'll tell him you were asking after him.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:10 PM (viF8m)
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279 My people demand St.Urho's day on the Fed calendar. Coffee, korppu, maybe some pickled herring, and vodka. Mid afternoon sauna, and repeat.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
That's funny, had never heard of St. Urho. Finns are a strange folk. And doing it on March 16 to upstage St. Patrick is genius.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
That's funny, had never heard of St. Urho. Finns are a strange folk. And doing it on March 16 to upstage St. Patrick is genius.
Posted by: Extended Drunken Stupor at July 15, 2025 12:11 PM (G5+As)
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God bless you , whig.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 12:11 PM (QB+5g)
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Acting is mostly about good casting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
Unless you're casting Gary Oldman, and then every choice is the right choice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK
So you're saying that Gary Oldman should be playing...
EVERYONE!!!!!!
Acting is mostly about good casting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
Unless you're casting Gary Oldman, and then every choice is the right choice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK
So you're saying that Gary Oldman should be playing...
EVERYONE!!!!!!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 12:12 PM (y9nCu)
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A lot of people don't necessarily want a legal conviction, they want a destroyed reputation.
And I understand that. If you're a shitbird, I want to know you're a shitbird.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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Well said and that is where innocent people get trampled in the rush for judgment. This is especially true as Barr, Wray, Garland, etc. are not trustworthy custodians of any evidence and the FBI botched the case purposefully (same thing in Las Vegas with the killer sniper case) by failing to gather evidence promptly (videotapes, documents, etc. were apparently not gathered after Epstein's arrest) for days after (Epstein Island) or 24 hours or so in NYC case. Dunno about NM ranch.
The ancient Greek philosophers valued justice but they also recognized that an excessive zeal for justice can lead to bad things happening as the cause becomes bigger than the process for justice.
Epstein probably was an 'asset' of intel agencies giving information to those agencies for decades. Like Whitey Bulger. But unlike Bulger and the FBI, the CIA cannot legally work inside the country--so they would either have a partner agency MI-6 for example, act as conduit. Five Eyes is the model
And I understand that. If you're a shitbird, I want to know you're a shitbird.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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Well said and that is where innocent people get trampled in the rush for judgment. This is especially true as Barr, Wray, Garland, etc. are not trustworthy custodians of any evidence and the FBI botched the case purposefully (same thing in Las Vegas with the killer sniper case) by failing to gather evidence promptly (videotapes, documents, etc. were apparently not gathered after Epstein's arrest) for days after (Epstein Island) or 24 hours or so in NYC case. Dunno about NM ranch.
The ancient Greek philosophers valued justice but they also recognized that an excessive zeal for justice can lead to bad things happening as the cause becomes bigger than the process for justice.
Epstein probably was an 'asset' of intel agencies giving information to those agencies for decades. Like Whitey Bulger. But unlike Bulger and the FBI, the CIA cannot legally work inside the country--so they would either have a partner agency MI-6 for example, act as conduit. Five Eyes is the model
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Good morning, MH. I trust you feel better after that well constructed rant. No sarcasm intended nor implied in reference to it.
My rejoinder is to take a brief look at our history, and you'll find numerous instances where we met with and prevailed over issues that were even more serious than the current mess, with an unbroken success record.
This , when the dust settles, will be no different. We succeed because we are governed by a political system unique in history. This has given rise to an extraordinary population whose heritage has been one in which succeeding generations have continued the struggle of their predecessors to ensure that our Republic endures. It's never been, nor will be a simple, easy task--more a tough slog to ultimate victory.
I believe in that fact and my country with unshakeable faith.
Good morning, MH. I trust you feel better after that well constructed rant. No sarcasm intended nor implied in reference to it.
My rejoinder is to take a brief look at our history, and you'll find numerous instances where we met with and prevailed over issues that were even more serious than the current mess, with an unbroken success record.
This , when the dust settles, will be no different. We succeed because we are governed by a political system unique in history. This has given rise to an extraordinary population whose heritage has been one in which succeeding generations have continued the struggle of their predecessors to ensure that our Republic endures. It's never been, nor will be a simple, easy task--more a tough slog to ultimate victory.
I believe in that fact and my country with unshakeable faith.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 15, 2025 12:17 PM (hKoQL)
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340 God bless you , whig.
Posted by: pawn
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I, like other sinners, do not deserve his blessing but with his grace can accept it and your wishes for it.
I always worry about the sin of pride and anger and I try for humility and peace but often fall short.
Posted by: pawn
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I, like other sinners, do not deserve his blessing but with his grace can accept it and your wishes for it.
I always worry about the sin of pride and anger and I try for humility and peace but often fall short.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:19 PM (ctrM5)
345
"My country, right or wrong" makes as much sense as "My mother, drunk or sober."
Posted by: PJ O'rourke at July 15, 2025 12:22 PM (QB+5g)
346
I am certainly not aware of statements, etc. made by Bondi that indicated favorability to Zimmerman or to the Martin family so please point those out to me if you have them and I will revise my opinion accordingly.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (ctrM5)
I will dig it up for you. I know you already know I have seen it.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:07 PM (ctrM5)
I will dig it up for you. I know you already know I have seen it.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 12:23 PM (Qr870)
347
I will dig it up for you. I know you already know I have seen it.
Posted by: ...
I haven't seen such but if you have, then I will recognize that.
But at the end of the day, I would still argue that Angela Corey bears more responsibility for charging Zimmerman than Bondi and how that trial proceeded. At the time, I was much more focused on the trial than the politics because I taught self defense issues as part of criminal law.
Posted by: ...
I haven't seen such but if you have, then I will recognize that.
But at the end of the day, I would still argue that Angela Corey bears more responsibility for charging Zimmerman than Bondi and how that trial proceeded. At the time, I was much more focused on the trial than the politics because I taught self defense issues as part of criminal law.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:27 PM (ctrM5)
348
345 "My country, right or wrong" makes as much sense as "My mother, drunk or sober."
Posted by: PJ O'rourke
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PJ. When you slobbered all over Killary and Obama in repudiation of what you wrote in the 80's, you pretty much killed any interest in what you wrote for me.
Posted by: PJ O'rourke
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PJ. When you slobbered all over Killary and Obama in repudiation of what you wrote in the 80's, you pretty much killed any interest in what you wrote for me.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 12:29 PM (ctrM5)
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3/23/2012
“(Corey) is one of the toughest prosecutors in the country. (...) She will work closely with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the Justice Department,” Bondi, a Republican, told Newsmax.TV in the exclusive interview.
“They are going to leave no stone unturned in this investigation. When you have a young man who was shot and killed walking home, we have to have all these questions answered. The citizens deserve to have the questions answered as well as, and especially, Trayvon’s family.”
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At that point in time no one attached to any part of reality believed Trayvon was killed while simply "walking home". That is and was bullshit from the beginning and there is no excuse in my opinion for it, including "fairness" and certainly not ignorance. Not from where she was sitting.
3/23/2012
“(Corey) is one of the toughest prosecutors in the country. (...) She will work closely with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the Justice Department,” Bondi, a Republican, told Newsmax.TV in the exclusive interview.
“They are going to leave no stone unturned in this investigation. When you have a young man who was shot and killed walking home, we have to have all these questions answered. The citizens deserve to have the questions answered as well as, and especially, Trayvon’s family.”
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At that point in time no one attached to any part of reality believed Trayvon was killed while simply "walking home". That is and was bullshit from the beginning and there is no excuse in my opinion for it, including "fairness" and certainly not ignorance. Not from where she was sitting.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 12:30 PM (Qr870)
350
It was self inflicted shoe chewing
Can you imagine who thought anything dread pirate smith was ethical?
Can you imagine who thought anything dread pirate smith was ethical?
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:14 PM (bXbFr)
351
The lies were coming fast furious from abc from thr times from nbc news crumps rentamob had forced out the da in sanford
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:17 PM (bXbFr)
352
The phony autopsy any host of shenanigans that an unaware prosecutor might not know
Obama warbling over his son trayvon
Obama warbling over his son trayvon
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:18 PM (bXbFr)
353
Cloned like hugo weaving in the matrix
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:21 PM (bXbFr)
354
Some though benny seigel was responsible didnt george hoders father supposedly confessed
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:26 PM (bXbFr)
355
Norman mailer pointed out what other offices were at the watergate the dc federal reserve on the floor about the dnc offices
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:28 PM (bXbFr)
356
Charlton heston as el cid
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 15, 2025 01:41 PM (bXbFr)
357
We were in the process of leaving Washington, DC for a post in West Germany in August 1974. I still have a copy of the Washington Post from the day Nixon resigned. Some day, we are going to realize Nixon was a choir boy compared to Clinton, Obama and Biden and all their cast of supporting crooks.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at July 15, 2025 02:12 PM (YcfMX)
Mid-Morning Art Thread
Sir John Everett Millais
Comments
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st!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 09:30 AM (kgE5c)
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Top 3.
Posted by: front toward enemy at July 15, 2025 09:30 AM (TIizU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 09:30 AM (x0n13)
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He's wanting to go north and west in her passage, IYKWIM.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (4IClK)
5
Dere's de Art!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (omVj0)
6
Ok, I think this one's ok
Posted by: Otto Pen at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (sJHOI)
7
That beautiful skirt is going to get grimy spread out all over the floor.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (XlI3u)
8
Who's the man in the boat?
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (DoOmQ)
9
Don't clean off the table. Just cover it.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (4IClK)
10
Much better than yesterday's art.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (NpAcC)
11
It's better than the picture of President Poopie-Head!
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (BHrzb)
12
That was a nice Jim "The King" Leyritz reference in JJ's morning report.
Posted by: front toward enemy at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (TIizU)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (4IClK)
14
This is a whole lot better than yesterday.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (0nHVk)
15
What's that mound that's covered up on the table?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (Dv3i1)
16
So that's what they call her.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 15, 2025 09:33 AM (JhGY+)
17
Wife, daughter, or granddaughter?
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 15, 2025 09:33 AM (BHrzb)
18
needs to straighten up his desk, otherwise tea & a biscuit...daughter's tending to her studies...thing's are mostly in order as they should be
Posted by: Otto Pen at July 15, 2025 09:33 AM (sJHOI)
19
I love the details in this painting.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 09:33 AM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 09:34 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 09:34 AM (3447G)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 09:34 AM (kgE5c)
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"The North-West Passage" is an 1874 painting by Sir John Everett Millais depicting an elderly sailor with his daughter, reflecting on the failed British attempts to find a navigable route around North America's northern coast. The painting, currently housed at Tate Britain, captures the sailor's contemplation of past voyages and the enduring challenge of the Northwest Passage
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (Riz8t)
24
What's that mound that's covered up on the table?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (Dv3i1)
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Almond Joys.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (Dv3i1)
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Almond Joys.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (3447G)
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Tate UK
Artist Sir John Everett Millais, Bt 1829–1896
Medium Oil paint on canvas
Dimensions support: 1765 x 2222 mm frame: 2157x 2623 x 145 mm
Collection Tate
Acquisition Presented by Sir Henry Tate 1894
Artist Sir John Everett Millais, Bt 1829–1896
Medium Oil paint on canvas
Dimensions support: 1765 x 2222 mm frame: 2157x 2623 x 145 mm
Collection Tate
Acquisition Presented by Sir Henry Tate 1894
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (gbOdA)
26
She's got no ring, so the question should be, daughter, granddaughter, or mistress?
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (BHrzb)
27
Sadly, they both froze to death when their ship was crushed like toothpicks by Arctic ice.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (w9Wax)
28
The passage was angy that day my friends..
Posted by: George Costanza at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (XQo4F)
29
What is that, a potato on his desk?
What is that, a potato on his desk?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (N9VmQ)
30
"The North-West Passage" is an 1874 painting by Sir John Everett Millais depicting an elderly sailor with his daughter, reflecting on the failed British attempts to find a navigable route around North America's northern coast.
This, of course, was back when the Brits were manly. At this point, I doubt they could find their way to the local mosque.
This, of course, was back when the Brits were manly. At this point, I doubt they could find their way to the local mosque.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (Riz8t)
31
This was the inspiration for The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (maybe).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (omVj0)
32
24 What's that mound that's covered up on the table?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (Dv3i1)
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Almond Joys.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (3447G)
That's nuts.
24 What's that mound that's covered up on the table?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (Dv3i1)
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Almond Joys.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (3447G)
That's nuts.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (i24o9)
33
Is that a dead wife laid out on the table?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (N9VmQ)
35
The only survivor of the Franklin expedition?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 09:37 AM (Dg2sF)
36
The North-West Passage is an 1874 painting by John Everett Millais. It depicts an elderly sailor sitting in an 18th century armchair at a desk, with his daughter seated in a stool beside him. He stares out at the viewer, while she reads from a log-book.
4 Apr
Cabin boys seem extremely afraid of the calm evening seas.
4 Apr
Cabin boys seem extremely afraid of the calm evening seas.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:37 AM (gbOdA)
37
Meh. It’s too cluttered for me. And the expression on the old man’s face is, well, he’s kinda awful looking. Perhaps a few marbles short.
The art yesterday was awful, but it was certainly more interesting.
The art yesterday was awful, but it was certainly more interesting.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 09:37 AM (mT+6a)
38
What is that, a potato on his desk?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (N9VmQ)
No, he's just happy to see you.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (N9VmQ)
No, he's just happy to see you.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 15, 2025 09:37 AM (i24o9)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:37 AM (N9VmQ)
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 09:37 AM (jc0TO)
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>>"The North-West Passage" is an 1874 painting by Sir John Everett Millais depicting an elderly sailor with his daughter, reflecting on the failed British attempts to find a navigable route around North America's northern coast. The painting, currently housed at Tate Britain, captures the sailor's contemplation of past voyages and the enduring challenge of the Northwest Passage
That explains it!
That explains it!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:37 AM (GbwPZ)
42
No one else gets a kick outta that?
This guy painted 3 paintings in this one painting. Plus, a seascape, as a bonus. A lotta value, here. Am I wrong?
No one else gets a kick outta that?
This guy painted 3 paintings in this one painting. Plus, a seascape, as a bonus. A lotta value, here. Am I wrong?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:38 AM (N9VmQ)
43
The guy's got a righteous beard.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 09:38 AM (jc0TO)
44
The daughter is very young compared to the old salt. I guess he was...spry...into old age.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 09:39 AM (Riz8t)
45
Embiggened, the captain looks fierce and choleric. Perhaps he will drop dead of apoplexy in the next year, leaving the house and fortune to the granddaughter/daughter/niece.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:39 AM (omVj0)
46
>>What is that, a potato on his desk?
It's on a plate next to a glass of wine.
Lunch of champions!
It's on a plate next to a glass of wine.
Lunch of champions!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:39 AM (GbwPZ)
47
Definitely art.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 09:39 AM (N1DT3)
48
>>No one else gets a kick outta that?
This guy painted 3 paintings in this one painting. Plus, a seascape, as a bonus. A lotta value, here. Am I wrong?
Yeah, it's fun.
This guy painted 3 paintings in this one painting. Plus, a seascape, as a bonus. A lotta value, here. Am I wrong?
Yeah, it's fun.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM (GbwPZ)
49
His ward.
The constitutional guardian I
Of pretty young wards in Chancery -
All very agreeable girls, and none
Are over the age of twenty-one!
The constitutional guardian I
Of pretty young wards in Chancery -
All very agreeable girls, and none
Are over the age of twenty-one!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM (Dg2sF)
50
Is that a hot toddy on the table?
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM (NpAcC)
51
Lots of clutter. Maids day off?
Posted by: Case at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM (ilX37)
52
"Kate, I want you to become a prostitute."
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM (oyCAU)
53
I dunno, that toilet with the cigar dick and power cable motif yesterday gives this one a run for its money.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM (ERYKL)
54
> "The North-West Passage" is an 1874 painting by Sir John Everett Millais depicting an elderly sailor with his daughter, reflecting on the failed British attempts to find a navigable route around North America's northern coast.
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They should have called AAA and got a TripTik.
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They should have called AAA and got a TripTik.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 09:41 AM (Q4IgG)
55
Brandy, you're a fine girl.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 09:41 AM (viF8m)
56
38 What is that, a potato on his desk?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (N9VmQ)
No, he's just happy to see you.
____
Hello, everyone!
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (N9VmQ)
No, he's just happy to see you.
____
Hello, everyone!
Posted by: Brian Stelter at July 15, 2025 09:41 AM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)
58
This guy painted 3 paintings in this one painting. Plus, a seascape, as a bonus. A lotta value, here. Am I wrong?
Yeah, it's fun.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM
I like mirrors in paintings. That takes some skillz.
Yeah, it's fun.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM
I like mirrors in paintings. That takes some skillz.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 09:41 AM (jc0TO)
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She looks sad. Perhaps the lace is covering the body of her recently deceased and beloved dog or cat, and she is searching for an appropriate verse in the Bible.
The captain's face expresses his very different thoughts. "All this fuss over a damned cat!"
The captain's face expresses his very different thoughts. "All this fuss over a damned cat!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:41 AM (omVj0)
60
is that a painting on the left or is it a window with a view of the ocean?
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 09:42 AM (Oy/m2)
61
Prim and Proper woman on an Ottoman > Fat guy on an Ottoman
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:42 AM (t0Rmr)
62
Today's painting is a multimedia presentation.
Here's the accompanying soundtrack.
https://youtu.be/lKF2uPx-d50
Here's the accompanying soundtrack.
https://youtu.be/lKF2uPx-d50
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 09:42 AM (Riz8t)
63
I would like to see a decorator hang this next to a Rothko in one of those multimillion dollar apartment homes in Manhattan.
The Contrast Style
The Contrast Style
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 09:42 AM (VofaG)
64
I reckon the artist has the map sitting like that so you can see it better, since it's central to the theme
Posted by: Otto Pen at July 15, 2025 09:42 AM (sJHOI)
65
This is a well done painting, especially the detail of the map and clutter in the room. Typical of old men. But, I'm not a fan.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly Whatever it is I'm against it at July 15, 2025 09:43 AM (qliBS)
66
That's gotta be Nelson in the painting.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 09:43 AM (jc0TO)
67
"Northwest Passage" by Stan Rogers
https://tinyurl.com/2xdhsssp
4:50 minutes
And on the Last Day, the sea shall give up her dead.
https://tinyurl.com/2xdhsssp
4:50 minutes
And on the Last Day, the sea shall give up her dead.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2025 09:43 AM (2yoRf)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:43 AM (N9VmQ)
69
He seems kinda pissed about the Northwest Passage.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:43 AM (fV+MH)
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0 is that a painting on the left or is it a window with a view of the ocean?
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 09:42 AM (Oy/m2)
View. The blinds are raised.
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 09:42 AM (Oy/m2)
View. The blinds are raised.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 09:43 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2025 09:44 AM (2yoRf)
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This guy painted 3 paintings in this one painting. Plus, a seascape, as a bonus. A lotta value, here. Am I wrong?
Yeah, it's fun.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025
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Where is the third painting? I see only two.
Yeah, it's fun.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025
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Where is the third painting? I see only two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:44 AM (omVj0)
73
The chick's a ginger.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 09:44 AM (jc0TO)
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44 The daughter is very young compared to the old salt. I guess he was...spry...into old age.
Posted by: Archimedes
Guy was probably in his 50s. Premature aging from salt and sun exposure.
Posted by: Archimedes
Guy was probably in his 50s. Premature aging from salt and sun exposure.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (Dv3i1)
75
Captain's Log
Stardate 2525.1
Stardate 2525.1
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (gbOdA)
76
The passage was angy that day my friends..
Posted by: George Costanza at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM
They have antibiotics for that now.
Posted by: George Costanza at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM
They have antibiotics for that now.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (Wnv9h)
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Dad's worked his ass off. Daughter is lecturing him about the systematic oppression of marginalized peoples that she's learning about at uni.
Dad's heart breaks
Dad's heart breaks
Posted by: Otto Pen at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (sJHOI)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (viF8m)
80
If you enlarge it you can really see the detail...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:46 AM (VE6XX)
81
Where is the third painting? I see only two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:44 AM (omVj0)
The painting itself I assume.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:44 AM (omVj0)
The painting itself I assume.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 09:46 AM (VofaG)
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reflecting on the failed British attempts to find a navigable route around North America's northern coast.
... and the failure to keep more than one chair in the room.
... and the failure to keep more than one chair in the room.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 09:46 AM (Yur+G)
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Where is the third painting? I see only two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Just two, and one "seascape" as the view outside the window.
Where is the third painting? I see only two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Just two, and one "seascape" as the view outside the window.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:46 AM (N9VmQ)
84
That's gotta be Nelson in the painting.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025
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He's got two arms, though. Nelson lost his right arm when he was about 39, and this guy is much older than that.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025
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He's got two arms, though. Nelson lost his right arm when he was about 39, and this guy is much older than that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:46 AM (omVj0)
85
The Northwest Passage is the sea lane between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans through the Arctic Ocean, near the northern coast of North America via waterways through the Arctic Archipelago of Canada. The eastern route along the Arctic coasts of Norway and Siberia is accordingly called the Northeast Passage.
Kinda cheating to take the short route over the Globe.
Kinda cheating to take the short route over the Globe.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (gbOdA)
86
Bourbon and potato, mmm mmm.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (P0m9n)
87
"Kate, I want you to become a prostitute."
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM
It's a steady job! And you'd be working from home!"
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:40 AM
It's a steady job! And you'd be working from home!"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (fV+MH)
89
Guy was probably in his 50s. Premature aging from salt and sun exposure.
Do you fear the force of the wind,
The slash of the rain?
Go face them and fight them,
Be savage again.
Go hungry and cold like the wolf,
Go wade like the crane:
The palms of your hands will thicken,
The skin of your cheek will tan,
You'll grow ragged and weary and swarthy,
But you 'll walk like a man!
Do you fear the force of the wind,
The slash of the rain?
Go face them and fight them,
Be savage again.
Go hungry and cold like the wolf,
Go wade like the crane:
The palms of your hands will thicken,
The skin of your cheek will tan,
You'll grow ragged and weary and swarthy,
But you 'll walk like a man!
Posted by: Hamlin Garland at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (N9VmQ)
91
the old man’s face is, well, he’s kinda awful looking. Perhaps a few marbles short.
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The lead solder leaking into the tinned cans' seams unless you believe the "experts".
https://tinyurl.com/ycysc5aw
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The lead solder leaking into the tinned cans' seams unless you believe the "experts".
https://tinyurl.com/ycysc5aw
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (2yoRf)
92
The daughter is very young compared to the old salt. I guess he was...spry...into old age.
Posted by: Archimedes
Guy was probably in his 50s. Premature aging from salt and sun exposure.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (Dv3i1)
Didn’t the grandson of one of our earliest Presidents just die. I’ve forgotten which President.
I’m relying on Hordeoogle.
Posted by: Archimedes
Guy was probably in his 50s. Premature aging from salt and sun exposure.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (Dv3i1)
Didn’t the grandson of one of our earliest Presidents just die. I’ve forgotten which President.
I’m relying on Hordeoogle.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (VofaG)
93
OnlyFans. The early years.
Posted by: Things were different at July 15, 2025 09:48 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:48 AM (fV+MH)
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>>He's got two arms, though. Nelson lost his right arm when he was about 39, and this guy is much older than that.
Psst. There's a painting within the painting.
Psst. There's a painting within the painting.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 09:48 AM (viF8m)
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There. Are. Three. Paintings!
Posted by: capt jean-luc picard at July 15, 2025 09:49 AM (2yoRf)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:49 AM (N9VmQ)
98
Didn’t the grandson of one of our earliest Presidents just die. I’ve forgotten which President.
I’m relying on Hordeoogle.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025
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WH Harrison, or Zachary Taylor, I think.
I’m relying on Hordeoogle.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025
***
WH Harrison, or Zachary Taylor, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:49 AM (omVj0)
99
Alright, now I'm confused. It's turning into a bad Abbott & Costello routine in here, now.
Alright, now I'm confused. It's turning into a bad Abbott & Costello routine in here, now.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:50 AM (N9VmQ)
100
I would say the young woman could help the old man out and tidy up the room. However she probably can hardly stand up in that forty pound dress she is wearing.
Posted by: Case at July 15, 2025 09:50 AM (ilX37)
101
Bob Ross couldn't paint for cheese wax.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (fV+MH)
Ross built his career on painting 30 minute paintings he learned how to do from Bill Alexander.
I do think though if he did a painting in the traditionalist way he would produce a better than average professional piece of art.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (fV+MH)
Ross built his career on painting 30 minute paintings he learned how to do from Bill Alexander.
I do think though if he did a painting in the traditionalist way he would produce a better than average professional piece of art.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 09:50 AM (VofaG)
102
Zach Taylor.
He had a kid when he was old who had a kid when he was old. And that kid recently died.
Kinda crazy.
He had a kid when he was old who had a kid when he was old. And that kid recently died.
Kinda crazy.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 09:51 AM (ImXfC)
103
hat's Lord Nelson to you, peasant.
Posted by: JackStraw
March!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkU5bDI_4k
Posted by: JackStraw
March!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkU5bDI_4k
Posted by: DaveA at July 15, 2025 09:51 AM (FhXTo)
104
Oh, CBD... this is just wonderful. Would proudly hang and stare at for hours.
Posted by: creeper at July 15, 2025 09:51 AM (zFwIe)
105
I'm not dead yet!
Posted by: The wife at July 15, 2025 09:51 AM (XQo4F)
106
Bob Ross couldn't paint for cheese wax.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (fV+MH)
That's cause cheese wax wouldn't pay the commission fee.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:47 AM (fV+MH)
That's cause cheese wax wouldn't pay the commission fee.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 09:51 AM (MGB5H)
107
Is this an Epstein painting?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 09:52 AM (ImXfC)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:52 AM (N9VmQ)
109
She's reading the Epstein list.
Posted by: Aha! at July 15, 2025 09:53 AM (XQo4F)
110
There. Is. One. Arm!
Portret van Horatio Nelson, William Bromley (I), after Robert Bowyer .
https://tinyurl.com/yc4jerbu
etching
Portret van Horatio Nelson, William Bromley (I), after Robert Bowyer .
https://tinyurl.com/yc4jerbu
etching
Posted by: capt jean-luc picard at July 15, 2025 09:53 AM (2yoRf)
111
Archimedes, thank you for further info. I find this painting fascinating.
Posted by: creeper at July 15, 2025 09:53 AM (zFwIe)
112
I used to think it was kinda savage how Bob just basically stole Bill Alexander's schtick, but then you watch Bill Alexander and you can see why.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:53 AM (fV+MH)
113
Nasdaq and s&p500 in record territory once again, despite the media hyperventilating about taRiFfS again.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 09:54 AM (ImXfC)
114
Who was born Shirley Schrift on August 18, 1920?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
***
I'll guess Shelley Winters again.
(Her childhood nickname would have been "Short S[c]hrift," no doubt.)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
***
I'll guess Shelley Winters again.
(Her childhood nickname would have been "Short S[c]hrift," no doubt.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:55 AM (omVj0)
115
108
Quick!
Who was born Shirley Schrift on August 18, 1920?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:52 AM (N9VmQ)
Shelley Winters
Quick!
Who was born Shirley Schrift on August 18, 1920?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:52 AM (N9VmQ)
Shelley Winters
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 09:56 AM (5xvZ1)
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Shirley Temple?
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:56 AM (fV+MH)
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Quick!
Who was born Shirley Schrift on August 18, 1920?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:52 AM
Surely you're joking?
Who was born Shirley Schrift on August 18, 1920?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 09:52 AM
Surely you're joking?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 09:56 AM (Wnv9h)
118
I could probably look at this for an hour or more. Great museum, too.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:57 AM (9IlGV)
119
Jean Kerr said she heard a stage producer ask at a party: "What *are* 'shelley' winters?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Hunter Biden at July 15, 2025 09:57 AM (5hfjS)
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used to think it was kinda savage how Bob just basically stole Bill Alexander's schtick, but then you watch Bill Alexander and you can see why.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:53 AM (fV+MH)
The Kowalskis stole the Ross name so he got paid back . Well his family got the consequences. Poor Bob thought he was leaving his empire to his kids. The Kowalskis said no your not.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 09:53 AM (fV+MH)
The Kowalskis stole the Ross name so he got paid back . Well his family got the consequences. Poor Bob thought he was leaving his empire to his kids. The Kowalskis said no your not.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 09:58 AM (VofaG)
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Shirley Temple?
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025
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Miss Temple was still a little girl in the mid-30s. A person born in 1920 would have been 14 in 1934, for example.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025
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Miss Temple was still a little girl in the mid-30s. A person born in 1920 would have been 14 in 1934, for example.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:58 AM (omVj0)
123
That oceanfront cottage probably rents for ten grand a week on VRBO now.
Posted by: Your Friendly Smiling Realtor at July 15, 2025 09:58 AM (G5+As)
124
That's a remarkably roomy 19th Century shipboard cabin.
What sort of table is that peeking out on the left?
What sort of table is that peeking out on the left?
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 15, 2025 09:59 AM (kWBLv)
125
I missed the spyglass next to his glass of port [?] and potato. Kewl.
Posted by: andycanuck (mZtdJ) at July 15, 2025 09:59 AM (2yoRf)
126
Fun fact. Trump's Big Beautiful Bill funds almost $9 billion to build ice breakers to keep the northwest passage open.
It also requires each ship to be named Epstein so people will never stop talking about him.
It also requires each ship to be named Epstein so people will never stop talking about him.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM (viF8m)
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That's a remarkably roomy 19th Century shipboard cabin.
What sort of table is that peeking out on the left?
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 15, 2025
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This is probably the captain's house, bought for his retirement ashore. Like the captain in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.
What sort of table is that peeking out on the left?
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 15, 2025
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This is probably the captain's house, bought for his retirement ashore. Like the captain in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM (omVj0)
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The Muslim running for mayor of Mogadishu, MN alerted me to the fact Minnesota now provides free college for “poor” people. Their definition of poor? Families making under $80k a year.
Which is interesting given the median household income in the country is $75k.
Socialism is creeping in slowly nationwide.
Which is interesting given the median household income in the country is $75k.
Socialism is creeping in slowly nationwide.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM (ImXfC)
129
It’s Tummy Rub Tuesday!
Best day of the week! Go and get em! Those fuzzy bellies aren’t going to rub themselves, you know!
Best day of the week! Go and get em! Those fuzzy bellies aren’t going to rub themselves, you know!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 10:01 AM (mT+6a)
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If ever you stay at the In and Out Military Club in London, you'll enjoy the art in their breakfast room. On one wall is a giant portrait of Admiral Nelson and on the other a similarly sized Duke of Marlborough.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 10:01 AM (9IlGV)
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"It also requires each ship to be named Epstein so people will never stop talking about him.
Posted by: JackStraw "
hah
Posted by: JackStraw "
hah
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:01 AM (fV+MH)
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This is probably the captain's house, bought for his retirement ashore. Like the captain in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM
It's a rented room, over the brothel.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM
It's a rented room, over the brothel.
Posted by: Hamlin Garland at July 15, 2025 10:01 AM (jc0TO)
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An amazing painting. Realistic detail in subtle colors (not the jewel-like colors Millais used in his Pre-raphaelite images). The charts, the ship visible through the window, paintings on the wall, the huge pennant, speak to a life at sea. The old man is both reliving his life and sharing it with his daughter as she reads from his logs. He is enjoying simple pleasures now: a drink by his side, furniture that meets his needs, (that chair looks very comfortable), even fresh flowers. The title would mean more to contemporary viewers than today, when the northwest passage was a failed dream that claimed many lives and ships. Millais shows a survivor but the allure of his adventures still has a hold on him. The man gives an impression that he would try again if he could.
Probably not connected, but there is a sense of Tennyson's poem "Ulysses".
"you and I are old;
Old age hath yet his honour and his toil;
Death closes all: but something ere the end,
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,"
Probably not connected, but there is a sense of Tennyson's poem "Ulysses".
"you and I are old;
Old age hath yet his honour and his toil;
Death closes all: but something ere the end,
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,"
Posted by: JTB at July 15, 2025 10:03 AM (yTvNw)
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First toilets, now British imperialism. I am not impressed with the Tate so far.
How about a trip to a German art museum? I suspect the topics would consist of the three B's: beer, bratwurst, and boobs. Those are subjects worthy of being labeled art even if there's no dog involved.
How about a trip to a German art museum? I suspect the topics would consist of the three B's: beer, bratwurst, and boobs. Those are subjects worthy of being labeled art even if there's no dog involved.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 10:03 AM (NXz8h)
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Took another Tramadol and two ibuprofen. I'm doing better. Called the dr.'s office, and am waiting to hear about a stronger Rx. I do have to pick it up myself. If I can get through today with what I have now -- especially tomorrow morning -- I can drive over for it on Wed. and bring it to CVS-Target.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:03 AM (omVj0)
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131 "It also requires each ship to be named Epstein so people will never stop talking about him.
Posted by: JackStraw "
LOL
Posted by: JackStraw "
LOL
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:05 AM (VE6XX)
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Epstein was in the past. We must never talk about him again.
That’s the rule.
That’s the rule.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:05 AM (ImXfC)
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A legendary actor and musician who starred in This Is Spinal Tap has died aged 79.
David Kaff, who played keyboardist Viv Savage in the iconic 1984 film, died peacefully in his sleep on July 11, per a statement from his band Mutual of Alameda’s Wild Kingdom.
David Kaff, who played keyboardist Viv Savage in the iconic 1984 film, died peacefully in his sleep on July 11, per a statement from his band Mutual of Alameda’s Wild Kingdom.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 10:05 AM (gbOdA)
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It’s Tummy Rub Tuesday!
Best day of the week! Go and get em! Those fuzzy bellies aren’t going to rub themselves, you know!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025
***
If little Dagny La Siberienne will come over to me as she did yesterday, she'll get all the tummy rubs she wants. So far today, though, she's kind of ignored me, as usual.
Best day of the week! Go and get em! Those fuzzy bellies aren’t going to rub themselves, you know!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025
***
If little Dagny La Siberienne will come over to me as she did yesterday, she'll get all the tummy rubs she wants. So far today, though, she's kind of ignored me, as usual.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:05 AM (omVj0)
140
Nice. Would hang . Thx CBD
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (Eo2Rw)
141
would not hang
Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (aBgBM)
142
>>Took another Tramadol and two ibuprofen.
Just rub some dirt on it and quit you're crying or I will give you something to cry about.
Trust me, my dad was a part time doctor.
Just rub some dirt on it and quit you're crying or I will give you something to cry about.
Trust me, my dad was a part time doctor.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:07 AM (viF8m)
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I'll guess Shelley Winters again.
(Her childhood nickname would have been "Short S[c]hrift," no doubt.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
You were bound to be right, eventually.
I'll guess Shelley Winters again.
(Her childhood nickname would have been "Short S[c]hrift," no doubt.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
You were bound to be right, eventually.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:07 AM (N9VmQ)
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Oh no!!
According to NPR, “experts” say the BBB will cause electricity to increase due to the defunding of so called clean energy.
Guys I’m scared. Experts are always right after all.
According to NPR, “experts” say the BBB will cause electricity to increase due to the defunding of so called clean energy.
Guys I’m scared. Experts are always right after all.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:07 AM (ImXfC)
145
"would not hang
Posted by: Gref "
You wouldn't hang a grumpy old man on your wall?
Why in heaven's not!?!?!
Posted by: Gref "
You wouldn't hang a grumpy old man on your wall?
Why in heaven's not!?!?!
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:08 AM (fV+MH)
146
Wow, inflation is really going up now. That combined with Trump's tariffs is gonna start a downturn soon.
Posted by: Sid at July 15, 2025 10:08 AM (ukeFl)
147
Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Geezer Golf today. I won't be playing as the in-laws are coming. And I'm good with that as the course is on a lake and my drives frequently try to seek a NW passage over it. Sometimes a SE passage. All have failed.
Goes looking for coffee.
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Geezer Golf today. I won't be playing as the in-laws are coming. And I'm good with that as the course is on a lake and my drives frequently try to seek a NW passage over it. Sometimes a SE passage. All have failed.
Goes looking for coffee.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2025 10:08 AM (W/lyH)
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Just rub some dirt on it and quit you're crying or I will give you something to cry about.
Trust me, my dad was a part time doctor.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:07 AM (viF8m)
Put a little Robitusin on it.
Trust me, my dad was a part time doctor.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:07 AM (viF8m)
Put a little Robitusin on it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:08 AM (ImXfC)
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Every time Oregon Muse would include a "Who Dis?" in his morning post I'd always guess "Myrna Loy!" Because eventually it would be Myrna Loy.
And I like saying Myrna Loy.
Every time Oregon Muse would include a "Who Dis?" in his morning post I'd always guess "Myrna Loy!" Because eventually it would be Myrna Loy.
And I like saying Myrna Loy.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:08 AM (N9VmQ)
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The Big Question: Was this 'pre-' or 'post-' ... ? Enquiring Minds 'n all that, y' know ...
Posted by: Dr_No at July 15, 2025 10:09 AM (ayRl+)
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Sid is right. Inflation is all the way up to 2.7%.
People will be clamoring for the good old days of 10% under Biden. It will be a landslide in 2028 for Newsom.
People will be clamoring for the good old days of 10% under Biden. It will be a landslide in 2028 for Newsom.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:09 AM (ImXfC)
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Well now we know for a certainty the electric bill will go down.
So we got that going for us.
Which is nice.
So we got that going for us.
Which is nice.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:09 AM (fV+MH)
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I guess I waited too long to put solar panels on the barn. Now I can't ask the taxpayers to pay 30% of it.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 10:11 AM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:11 AM (N9VmQ)
155
Very nicely done, but isn't that a slur calling that nice looking woman ' Tbe Northwest Passage?"
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 10:11 AM (+qU29)
156
And I like saying Myrna Loy.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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So, I expect, did a lot of men back then. A young James Stewart was asked his ambition, and he included "to marry Myrna Loy." (He'd met and worked with her in the 1937 After the Thin Man, at least.)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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So, I expect, did a lot of men back then. A young James Stewart was asked his ambition, and he included "to marry Myrna Loy." (He'd met and worked with her in the 1937 After the Thin Man, at least.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:11 AM (omVj0)
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$9 billion to build ice breakers
Another deal Putin missed out on.
Although theirs are slightly radioactive.
Another deal Putin missed out on.
Although theirs are slightly radioactive.
Posted by: DaveA at July 15, 2025 10:12 AM (FhXTo)
158
That old man appears to have Biden-level accuity.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 15, 2025 10:12 AM (36PRH)
159
I learned a thing the other day and now you have to.
AAVE.
No, not the decentralized finance crypto coin--that's useful.
Stands for "African American Vernacular English" f/k/a ebonics.
But now, as a variation of the Gym THOT, we have a blacks filming themselves giving a side-eye as they eavesdrop on other's conversations; the offense being they are not black but they are using AAVE.
Can we just carpet bomb the "studies" part of universities and ban them for 40 years?
And send all those with those degrees out to the Sinai and Empty Quarter?
AAVE.
No, not the decentralized finance crypto coin--that's useful.
Stands for "African American Vernacular English" f/k/a ebonics.
But now, as a variation of the Gym THOT, we have a blacks filming themselves giving a side-eye as they eavesdrop on other's conversations; the offense being they are not black but they are using AAVE.
Can we just carpet bomb the "studies" part of universities and ban them for 40 years?
And send all those with those degrees out to the Sinai and Empty Quarter?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 10:12 AM (VlU/R)
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It's a Mars Bar.
Posted by: Carl Spackler at July 15, 2025 10:12 AM (JhGY+)
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Even if the “experts” are right and electric prices increase, it’s still good to get rid of the incentives. It’s like the govt spend $1 to get back 50 cents in reduced electric rates. It’s retarded and hurts the economy overall.
It’s the same mentality as Mamdani and his “free” bus passes. It’s not free you idiots.
It’s the same mentality as Mamdani and his “free” bus passes. It’s not free you idiots.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:13 AM (ImXfC)
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They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S
Saw this in the last thread. Hillary training Chelsea is the perfect hook for this generation's remake of "The Professional". The villain would be Trump deporting and abusing Haitian migrants. Keep the weird pedo sexual tension, and it's a sure winner!!!
Posted by: Ian S
Saw this in the last thread. Hillary training Chelsea is the perfect hook for this generation's remake of "The Professional". The villain would be Trump deporting and abusing Haitian migrants. Keep the weird pedo sexual tension, and it's a sure winner!!!
Posted by: Hollywood still not getting it at July 15, 2025 10:13 AM (avLeh)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:03 AM (om
I’m sure one of those have a delivery service.
I’m sure one of those have a delivery service.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:14 AM (VofaG)
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>>Another deal Putin missed out on.
Although theirs are slightly radioactive.
The Beluga whales are ours.
Although theirs are slightly radioactive.
The Beluga whales are ours.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:15 AM (viF8m)
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Is "the Northwest Passage" a older euphemism for what the kids these days call the 'backdoor'?
Asking for some friends.
Asking for some friends.
Posted by: Joys Behar & Reid at July 15, 2025 10:15 AM (0sNs1)
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Combined with the tariffs? You really are a retard Sid. It’s not just an insult.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:16 AM (VofaG)
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The 1845 British naval expedition commanded by Sir John Franklin to map the Northwest Passage ended in disaster, with none returning alive from the Canadian Arctic. The 19th century Inuit testimony described cannibalism among Franklin's men in the final throes of the expedition. Such claims were controversial at the time, but were supported in the 1980s and 1990s when knife marks were identified on human remains recovered from expedition sites on King William Island.
Posted by: andycanuck (mZtdJ) at July 15, 2025 10:16 AM (2yoRf)
Posted by: Beavis at July 15, 2025 10:16 AM (0sNs1)
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Survival cannibalism generally follows a sequence in which meat is initially cut from an intact corpse, but if further calories are required, successively greater effort is put into corpse processing. End-stage cannibalism is characterised by breakage and boiling of bones to extract marrow fat from medullary cavities and cancellous bone. The current work involves re-examination, using macroscopic and microscopic study, of human remains (representing a minimum of 35 bones) from the Franklin expedition. It describes evidence for breakage and polishing of broken edges of parts of some long bones. These alterations are tentatively interpreted as breakage and heating of bones in water, to facilitate marrow extraction. If this is correct, then it constitutes the first osteological evidence of end-stage cannibalism among members of the expedition. Comparison of these osteological findings with 19th century Inuit reports provides further evidence supporting the veracity of Inuit descriptions of cannibalistic practices by expedition members.
Posted by: andycanuck (mZtdJ) at July 15, 2025 10:16 AM (2yoRf)
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"It also requires each ship to be named Epstein so people will never stop talking about him.
Posted by: JackStraw "
LOL
Posted by: It's me donna
Kurt Cobain suck started a 12 gauge.
You know who didn't kill himself?
Jeffery Epstein.
Posted by: JackStraw "
LOL
Posted by: It's me donna
Kurt Cobain suck started a 12 gauge.
You know who didn't kill himself?
Jeffery Epstein.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 10:17 AM (4IClK)
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If a million monkeys typed on a million typewriters for a million years one would eventually type mYrna LOy.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:17 AM (fV+MH)
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In 1852 Edward Belcher was given command of the government Arctic expedition in search of Franklin. It was unsuccessful; Belcher's inability to render himself popular with his subordinates was peculiarly unfortunate on an Arctic voyage and he was not wholly suited to commanding vessels among ice. Four of the five ships (HMS Resolute, Pioneer, Assistance and Intrepid)[50] were abandoned in pack ice, for which Belcher was court-martialled but acquitted.[51]
One of these ships, HMS Resolute, was eventually recovered intact by an American whaler and returned to the United Kingdom. Timbers from the ship were later used to manufacture three desks, one of which, the Resolute desk, was presented by Queen Victoria to US President Rutherford B. Hayes; it has often been chosen by presidents for use in the Oval Office in the White House.[52]
One of these ships, HMS Resolute, was eventually recovered intact by an American whaler and returned to the United Kingdom. Timbers from the ship were later used to manufacture three desks, one of which, the Resolute desk, was presented by Queen Victoria to US President Rutherford B. Hayes; it has often been chosen by presidents for use in the Oval Office in the White House.[52]
Posted by: andycanuck (mZtdJ) at July 15, 2025 10:17 AM (2yoRf)
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140 Nice. Would hang . Thx CBD
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (Eo2Rw)
141 would not hang
Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (aBgBM)
I am at a loss ! what to do ?!
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (Eo2Rw)
141 would not hang
Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (aBgBM)
I am at a loss ! what to do ?!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (g47mK)
174
Tariffs have Ben in effect for 4 months. No effect on prices. Yet we keep hearing retards like Sid say wait until the tariffs kick in.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (ImXfC)
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Epstein was in the past. We must never talk about him again.
That’s the rule.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:05 AM (ImXfC)
You’ve had since 2005 to talk about him. Why did you wait so long to be this outraged?
That’s the rule.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:05 AM (ImXfC)
You’ve had since 2005 to talk about him. Why did you wait so long to be this outraged?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (VofaG)
176
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
Posted by: The Millionth Monkey at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (jc0TO)
177
I’m sure one of those have a delivery service.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025
***
I'll call CVS and ask. But they are located some miles away . . . and this we're talking about is a controlled substance. The may not legally be allowed to deliver something like that.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025
***
I'll call CVS and ask. But they are located some miles away . . . and this we're talking about is a controlled substance. The may not legally be allowed to deliver something like that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:19 AM (omVj0)
178
It's a Mars Bar.
Posted by: Carl Spackler at July 15, 2025 10:12 AM
* snickers *
Posted by: Beavis at July 15, 2025
***
You'll get a Zero for that.
Posted by: Carl Spackler at July 15, 2025 10:12 AM
* snickers *
Posted by: Beavis at July 15, 2025
***
You'll get a Zero for that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:20 AM (omVj0)
179
" It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
Posted by: The Millionth Monkey "
Ohhhhh....sooo close.
no
Posted by: The Millionth Monkey "
Ohhhhh....sooo close.
no
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:20 AM (fV+MH)
180
You’ve had since 2005 to talk about him. Why did you wait so long to be this outraged?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (VofaG)
Let’s flip sides. Kamala is in the White House and she says and does the exact same thing. Says case is closed let’s move on. You shrug and say oh well it’s in the past nothing to see here.
Right?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (VofaG)
Let’s flip sides. Kamala is in the White House and she says and does the exact same thing. Says case is closed let’s move on. You shrug and say oh well it’s in the past nothing to see here.
Right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (ImXfC)
181
Can somebody remind me why Atlanta had the All-Star game pulled a few years ago? That's what I thought. Nobody knows.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (NXz8h)
182
40 Nice. Would hang . Thx CBD
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (Eo2Rw)
141 would not hang
Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (aBgBM)
I am at a loss ! what to do ?!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (g47mK)
Just lean it against the wall. maybe?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (Eo2Rw)
141 would not hang
Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (aBgBM)
I am at a loss ! what to do ?!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (g47mK)
Just lean it against the wall. maybe?
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (EcHpA)
183
Off, old but genuine sock.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (2yoRf)
184
Didn’t the grandson of one of our earliest Presidents just die. I’ve forgotten which President.
I’m relying on Hordeoogle.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025
John Tyler.
I’m relying on Hordeoogle.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025
John Tyler.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (Dg2sF)
185
155 Very nicely done, but isn't that a slur calling that nice looking woman ' Tbe Northwest Passage?"
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 10:11 AM (+qU29)
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She shouldn't complain. The Northwest Passage has a certain majesty about it that the Town Bike will never match.
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 10:11 AM (+qU29)
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She shouldn't complain. The Northwest Passage has a certain majesty about it that the Town Bike will never match.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 15, 2025 10:22 AM (JkO4W)
186
While it is not my style to hang, this is a lovely piece full of detail, color and use of light. The leather on the chair is striking, the chart, the pictures on the wall, the wallpaper,. The details are something you can get lost in. The fact they live on the water and you can see the old man looks out with his scope to watch the boats, maybe wishing he could try one more voyage.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 10:22 AM (pZEOD)
187
175 Epstein was in the past. We must never talk about him again.
That’s the rule.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:05 AM (ImXfC)
You’ve had since 2005 to talk about him. Why did you wait so long to be this outraged?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (VofaG)
Yes. Epstein has now turned into a meme and it's tough for me to take it seriously. It's like getting worked up over the Amber Lamps guy.
Plus it's a vector for manufactured outrage on the part of the media. Pay attention to who is pissed off about something and you tend to get some pretty good insights...
That’s the rule.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:05 AM (ImXfC)
You’ve had since 2005 to talk about him. Why did you wait so long to be this outraged?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (VofaG)
Yes. Epstein has now turned into a meme and it's tough for me to take it seriously. It's like getting worked up over the Amber Lamps guy.
Plus it's a vector for manufactured outrage on the part of the media. Pay attention to who is pissed off about something and you tend to get some pretty good insights...
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:23 AM (PzXaK)
188
181 Can somebody remind me why Atlanta had the All-Star game pulled a few years ago? That's what I thought. Nobody knows.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 10:21
Was it the ultra racist voting law which forbade dead people from voting thrice in urban areas?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 10:21
Was it the ultra racist voting law which forbade dead people from voting thrice in urban areas?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:23 AM (ImXfC)
189
Can somebody remind me why Atlanta had the All-Star game pulled a few years ago? That's what I thought. Nobody knows.
Because Georgia was tightening up its voting procedures, which as we all know is the second coming of the KKK.
Were I mayor of Atlanta, I'd tell MLB to shove the All-Star game up their asses.
Because Georgia was tightening up its voting procedures, which as we all know is the second coming of the KKK.
Were I mayor of Atlanta, I'd tell MLB to shove the All-Star game up their asses.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 10:23 AM (Dg2sF)
190
Didn’t the grandson of one of our earliest Presidents just die. I’ve forgotten which President.
I’m relying on Hordeoogle.
Posted by: polynikes
John Tyler.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' PPP
=====
Canoe accident??
I’m relying on Hordeoogle.
Posted by: polynikes
John Tyler.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' PPP
=====
Canoe accident??
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2025 10:23 AM (2yoRf)
191
For a laff, I suggest tuning into Bloomberg fake financial news on the radio.
They start jerking off every time the Markets go red, and then sound disappointed when it's in the green.
They had some dipshit lady on yesterday who predicted a recession for this year! She said tariffs are already having a big impact -- we might not be seeing it this quarter but we'll see it next quarter. LOLOLOLOLOL.
For a laff, I suggest tuning into Bloomberg fake financial news on the radio.
They start jerking off every time the Markets go red, and then sound disappointed when it's in the green.
They had some dipshit lady on yesterday who predicted a recession for this year! She said tariffs are already having a big impact -- we might not be seeing it this quarter but we'll see it next quarter. LOLOLOLOLOL.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:24 AM (N9VmQ)
192
The details are something you can get lost in. The fact they live on the water and you can see the old man looks out with his scope to watch the boats
---------
Umm, he's not looking at boats.
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Umm, he's not looking at boats.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 15, 2025 10:24 AM (JkO4W)
193
Regarding the Epstein files,
Some people may have done some things.
Mistakes may have been made.
Chalk them up to the exuberance of the moment.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.
Some people may have done some things.
Mistakes may have been made.
Chalk them up to the exuberance of the moment.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.
Posted by: The Trump Administration at July 15, 2025 10:24 AM (0sNs1)
194
Can you say conspiracy? Sure you can.
>>@ProfMJCleveland
>>🚨🚨🚨BREAKING:
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
>>@ProfMJCleveland
>>🚨🚨🚨BREAKING:
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:25 AM (viF8m)
195
181 Can somebody remind me why Atlanta had the All-Star game pulled a few years ago? That's what I thought. Nobody knows.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions.
They wouldn't let men in the ladies bathrooms?
Nope, I was wrong. I looked it up-
Atlanta lost the 2021 MLB All-Star Game because of a political firestorm surrounding Georgia’s Election Integrity Act of 2021. The law introduced stricter voting regulations, including:
- Requiring voter ID for absentee ballots
- Limiting ballot drop boxes
- Banning distribution of food and water to voters waiting in line
It was banned for bringing back Jim Crow, basically. Nevermind the law is still in effect.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions.
They wouldn't let men in the ladies bathrooms?
Nope, I was wrong. I looked it up-
Atlanta lost the 2021 MLB All-Star Game because of a political firestorm surrounding Georgia’s Election Integrity Act of 2021. The law introduced stricter voting regulations, including:
- Requiring voter ID for absentee ballots
- Limiting ballot drop boxes
- Banning distribution of food and water to voters waiting in line
It was banned for bringing back Jim Crow, basically. Nevermind the law is still in effect.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 10:25 AM (Dv3i1)
196
Polymarket has a bet on a recession in 2025. It was in the 70s at the peak of tariff hysteria. Now it’s around 15.
Once again the experts cucked themselves.
Once again the experts cucked themselves.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:26 AM (ImXfC)
197
>>🚨🚨🚨BREAKING:
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:25 AM (viF8m)
Who is he ?
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:25 AM (viF8m)
Who is he ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:26 AM (VE6XX)
198
We just need better training to avoid future Epstein issues.
- Bondi (probably)
- Bondi (probably)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:27 AM (ImXfC)
199
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:25 AM (viF8m)
Who is he ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:26 AM
Chuck Grassley is a Senator from one of those fly-over states, Iowa, I think.
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:25 AM (viF8m)
Who is he ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:26 AM
Chuck Grassley is a Senator from one of those fly-over states, Iowa, I think.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at July 15, 2025 10:27 AM (0sNs1)
200
I’m relying on Hordeoogle
Wait, I thought that was looking at hot ladies, preferably the "busty" side of things? https://tinyurl.com/5fs4yvef
If not, it should! Or is that Hordeogling?
Wait, I thought that was looking at hot ladies, preferably the "busty" side of things? https://tinyurl.com/5fs4yvef
If not, it should! Or is that Hordeogling?
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 15, 2025 10:27 AM (avLeh)
201
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw
The former college-great football player??
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw
The former college-great football player??
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:27 AM (N9VmQ)
202
Chuck Grassley is a Senator from one of those fly-over states, Iowa, I think.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at July 15, 2025 10:27 AM (0sNs1)
Not Grassley Thibault
Chuck Grassley is a Senator from one of those fly-over states, Iowa, I think.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at July 15, 2025 10:27 AM (0sNs1)
Not Grassley Thibault
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM (VE6XX)
203
Let’s flip sides. Kamala is in the White House and she says and does the exact same thing. Says case is closed let’s move on. You shrug and say oh well it’s in the past nothing to see here.
Right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (ImXfC)
Two things.
1. Biden already did that
2. I wouldn’t be trying to keep any momentum a Harris administration had to keep it going.
Why all the sudden is the Epstein thing the most important issue for some? If there was a cover up by Trump they are doing it wrong .
The first rule of cover up is to delay any findings and keep an investigation going , stretching it out until people forget about it.
Right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (ImXfC)
Two things.
1. Biden already did that
2. I wouldn’t be trying to keep any momentum a Harris administration had to keep it going.
Why all the sudden is the Epstein thing the most important issue for some? If there was a cover up by Trump they are doing it wrong .
The first rule of cover up is to delay any findings and keep an investigation going , stretching it out until people forget about it.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM (VofaG)
204
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw
Poor guy couldn't cut it in the NFL.
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw
Poor guy couldn't cut it in the NFL.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM (N9VmQ)
205
You’ve had since 2005 to talk about him. Why did you wait so long to be this outraged?
I was operating under the false assumption that Trump would expose the names of the guilty. Silly of me, apparently. Oh well - move on. Just like Hillary said.
I was operating under the false assumption that Trump would expose the names of the guilty. Silly of me, apparently. Oh well - move on. Just like Hillary said.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM (hniPK)
206
182 40 Nice. Would hang . Thx CBD
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (Eo2Rw)
141 would not hang
Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (aBgBM)
I am at a loss ! what to do ?!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (g47mK)
Just lean it against the wall. maybe?
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (EcHpA)
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Yes, a perfect addition to the "will hang" stack.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (Eo2Rw)
141 would not hang
Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (aBgBM)
I am at a loss ! what to do ?!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 10:18 AM (g47mK)
Just lean it against the wall. maybe?
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (EcHpA)
---
Yes, a perfect addition to the "will hang" stack.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (36PRH)
207
. . . and why is the rum always gone?
Posted by: Old Sailor Man in painting at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (wVcYX)
208
192 The details are something you can get lost in. The fact they live on the water and you can see the old man looks out with his scope to watch the boats
---------
Umm, he's not looking at boats.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July
I meant imagine he does that, with the spyglass on the table by the window.
192 The details are something you can get lost in. The fact they live on the water and you can see the old man looks out with his scope to watch the boats
---------
Umm, he's not looking at boats.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July
I meant imagine he does that, with the spyglass on the table by the window.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (pZEOD)
209
Wolfus,
I another couple days you won’t have as much pain. Ice is your friend. Oxycodone will make
You constipated and cause even more pain.
Take it easy, ice, take your meds. You’ll be fine.
I another couple days you won’t have as much pain. Ice is your friend. Oxycodone will make
You constipated and cause even more pain.
Take it easy, ice, take your meds. You’ll be fine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (xZri3)
210
Where’s the head in the bag?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (CflDX)
211
Not Grassley Thibault
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM
No, Grassley Thibault was the bass player in Rush before Geddy Lee.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM
No, Grassley Thibault was the bass player in Rush before Geddy Lee.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (0sNs1)
212
127 This is probably the captain's house, bought for his retirement ashore. Like the captain in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius (Wolfous Aurelious in Canadian?), Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM (omVj0)
Plausible. But then the title Northwest Passage - by whom? Or is Northwest Passage in this case merely a geographic term?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius (Wolfous Aurelious in Canadian?), Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM (omVj0)
Plausible. But then the title Northwest Passage - by whom? Or is Northwest Passage in this case merely a geographic term?
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (kWBLv)
213
Actually, Tim Tebow was a good player and could've been great in the NFL.
But the jock-sniffing faggot fake sports writers hated him.
Actually, Tim Tebow was a good player and could've been great in the NFL.
But the jock-sniffing faggot fake sports writers hated him.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (N9VmQ)
214
Epstein issue is the dot from the laser pointer. Not that it isn't important, but it's what the media wants everyone to focus in on now.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (Dv3i1)
215
The Tate has to have at least one worthwhile painting. For example, The French Navy getting destroyed by the British Navy, or the Plantagenets torturing their enemies.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 10:30 AM (NXz8h)
216
209 Wolfus,
I another couple days you won’t have as much pain. Ice is your friend. Oxycodone will make
You constipated and cause even more pain.
Take it easy, ice, take your meds. You’ll be fine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (xZri3)
Listen to Nurse.. I was prescribed Oxycodone and took less than half of what was prescribed.... Very hard to shake...
I another couple days you won’t have as much pain. Ice is your friend. Oxycodone will make
You constipated and cause even more pain.
Take it easy, ice, take your meds. You’ll be fine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 10:29 AM (xZri3)
Listen to Nurse.. I was prescribed Oxycodone and took less than half of what was prescribed.... Very hard to shake...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:30 AM (VE6XX)
217
>>Who is he ?
Thibault was the the assistant agent in charge of the FBI's DC office.
He's a very naughty boy. And it's coming around.
Thibault was the the assistant agent in charge of the FBI's DC office.
He's a very naughty boy. And it's coming around.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:30 AM (viF8m)
218
@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:25 AM (viF8m)
Who is he ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:26 AM
Chuck Grassley is a Senator from one of those fly-over states, Iowa, I think.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at July 15, 2025 10:27 AM (0sNs1)
But that's not important now.
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:25 AM (viF8m)
Who is he ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:26 AM
Chuck Grassley is a Senator from one of those fly-over states, Iowa, I think.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at July 15, 2025 10:27 AM (0sNs1)
But that's not important now.
Posted by: Dr. Rumack at July 15, 2025 10:30 AM (wVcYX)
219
Why all the sudden is the Epstein thing the most important issue for some? If there was a cover up by Trump they are doing it wrong .
—
You’re bing disingenuous.
It’s not all of a sudden. This has been a story that has been going on for years. Epstein didn’t kill himself has been a thing for years. Plus no Gino himself has made a career among other things pushing this story on his show.
It’s the most important issue because anyone with a functioning brain knows they are covering something up. And if they’re lying to you about this they’re certainly lying to you about other things.
But let’s put all that aside because “trust Trump”. Sorry that’s bullshit.
—
You’re bing disingenuous.
It’s not all of a sudden. This has been a story that has been going on for years. Epstein didn’t kill himself has been a thing for years. Plus no Gino himself has made a career among other things pushing this story on his show.
It’s the most important issue because anyone with a functioning brain knows they are covering something up. And if they’re lying to you about this they’re certainly lying to you about other things.
But let’s put all that aside because “trust Trump”. Sorry that’s bullshit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:31 AM (ImXfC)
220
The leftist faggot cocksuckers (literally) fake sports writers "journalists" poisoned the well and did everything they could to torpedo Tim Tebow -- and enough stupid NFL fans bought into the anti-Tebow Hoax.
The leftist faggot cocksuckers (literally) fake sports writers "journalists" poisoned the well and did everything they could to torpedo Tim Tebow -- and enough stupid NFL fans bought into the anti-Tebow Hoax.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:31 AM (N9VmQ)
221
He's a very naughty boy. And it's coming around.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:30 AM (viF8m)
I hear that's what happens after it goes around.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:30 AM (viF8m)
I hear that's what happens after it goes around.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2025 10:31 AM (MGB5H)
222
You’ve had since 2005 to talk about him. Why did you wait so long to be this outraged?
I was operating under the false assumption that Trump would expose the names of the guilty. Silly of me, apparently. Oh well - move on. Just like Hillary said.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things
What's the statute of limitations on kiddie diddling?
And why would the Feds in 2019, ring up Epstein over his 2008 Florida arrest?
I was operating under the false assumption that Trump would expose the names of the guilty. Silly of me, apparently. Oh well - move on. Just like Hillary said.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things
What's the statute of limitations on kiddie diddling?
And why would the Feds in 2019, ring up Epstein over his 2008 Florida arrest?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 10:31 AM (4IClK)
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:31 AM (fV+MH)
224
I was operating under the false assumption that Trump would expose the names of the guilty. Silly of me, apparently. Oh well - move on. Just like Hillary said.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM (hniPK)
Are you also mad nothing came of the promise to release JFK and Alien information?
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM (hniPK)
Are you also mad nothing came of the promise to release JFK and Alien information?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:31 AM (VofaG)
225
Actually, Tim Tebow was a good player and could've been great in the NFL.
But the jock-sniffing faggot fake sports writers hated him.
Posted by: Soothsayer
And I thought it was because he couldn't see over the linemen and couldn't complete a pass.
But the jock-sniffing faggot fake sports writers hated him.
Posted by: Soothsayer
And I thought it was because he couldn't see over the linemen and couldn't complete a pass.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 10:32 AM (NXz8h)
226
As noted elsewhere, since April 4th, Trump has filed 15 emergency appeals to the Supreme Court.
And won all of them.
I believe that was the date of the illegal Midnight Order.
And I suspect, given the dissents in that order and the Liberal Bloc dissents after, that one of the Liberal Bloc, likely Jackson, sold Roberts and ACB on that order with a variation of "trust me."
And the unprecedented mocking and terse replies by the trial judge and James Ho of the 5th Circuit exposed that she lied to them.
15 to zero run.
BuT whAT aBOuT tHe EPstiEN fILeS!!?? HUH? HUH?
And won all of them.
I believe that was the date of the illegal Midnight Order.
And I suspect, given the dissents in that order and the Liberal Bloc dissents after, that one of the Liberal Bloc, likely Jackson, sold Roberts and ACB on that order with a variation of "trust me."
And the unprecedented mocking and terse replies by the trial judge and James Ho of the 5th Circuit exposed that she lied to them.
15 to zero run.
BuT whAT aBOuT tHe EPstiEN fILeS!!?? HUH? HUH?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 10:32 AM (VlU/R)
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Rush, of course, is the greatest band of all time, and Geddy Lee is a bassist.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at July 15, 2025 10:32 AM (0sNs1)
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177 ***
I'll call CVS and ask. But they are located some miles away . . . and this we're talking about is a controlled substance. The may not legally be allowed to deliver something like that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of
They probably can’t deliver it, but someone can pick it up for you, if they are an adult and show ID. They will need all your info- or easier, pay for it in advance and just give the person picking it up the code they send. But they will still have to show ID.
I'll call CVS and ask. But they are located some miles away . . . and this we're talking about is a controlled substance. The may not legally be allowed to deliver something like that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of
They probably can’t deliver it, but someone can pick it up for you, if they are an adult and show ID. They will need all your info- or easier, pay for it in advance and just give the person picking it up the code they send. But they will still have to show ID.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 10:32 AM (pZEOD)
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She's showing her foot! Stone that slut, she is asking for it! It's like putting meat out for a cat!
-"Englanders" today
-"Englanders" today
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 15, 2025 10:32 AM (144I4)
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203 Let’s flip sides. Kamala is in the White House and she says and does the exact same thing. Says case is closed let’s move on. You shrug and say oh well it’s in the past nothing to see here.
Right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (ImXfC)
Two things.
1. Biden already did that
2. I wouldn’t be trying to keep any momentum a Harris administration had to keep it going.
Why all the sudden is the Epstein thing the most important issue for some? If there was a cover up by Trump they are doing it wrong .
The first rule of cover up is to delay any findings and keep an investigation going , stretching it out until people forget about it.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM (VofaG)
An "if the other side did it" argument is generally pretty weak sauce IMO.
Right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:21 AM (ImXfC)
Two things.
1. Biden already did that
2. I wouldn’t be trying to keep any momentum a Harris administration had to keep it going.
Why all the sudden is the Epstein thing the most important issue for some? If there was a cover up by Trump they are doing it wrong .
The first rule of cover up is to delay any findings and keep an investigation going , stretching it out until people forget about it.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:28 AM (VofaG)
An "if the other side did it" argument is generally pretty weak sauce IMO.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:33 AM (PzXaK)
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@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Does law enforcement have an obligation to search for crimes to investigate? The way this is worded it doesn't seem 'smoking gun' worthy.
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Does law enforcement have an obligation to search for crimes to investigate? The way this is worded it doesn't seem 'smoking gun' worthy.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 10:33 AM (Dv3i1)
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What's the statute of limitations on kiddie diddling?
And why would the Feds in 2019, ring up Epstein over his 2008 Florida arrest?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 10:31 AM (4IClK)
It was for crimes he did in NY.
And why would the Feds in 2019, ring up Epstein over his 2008 Florida arrest?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 10:31 AM (4IClK)
It was for crimes he did in NY.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:33 AM (VofaG)
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I another couple days you won’t have as much pain. Ice is your friend. Oxycodone will make
You constipated and cause even more pain.
Take it easy, ice, take your meds. You’ll be fine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025
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I'm doing my best to take it easy, Nurse, and using an ice pack to. If oxycodone will clog me up, then I'll ask my dr. for something stronger than Tramadol that won't. It was just that I woke up today feeling like I'd torn a muscle -- seven hours since my last ibuprofen and ten since my last Tramadol. I won't make that mistake again. If I have to set the alarm for 1:00 am to take a pill so I won't be crippled at 4:30, so be it.
You constipated and cause even more pain.
Take it easy, ice, take your meds. You’ll be fine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025
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I'm doing my best to take it easy, Nurse, and using an ice pack to. If oxycodone will clog me up, then I'll ask my dr. for something stronger than Tramadol that won't. It was just that I woke up today feeling like I'd torn a muscle -- seven hours since my last ibuprofen and ten since my last Tramadol. I won't make that mistake again. If I have to set the alarm for 1:00 am to take a pill so I won't be crippled at 4:30, so be it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:33 AM (omVj0)
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repost from last night:
You hear about the new fake "Superman" movie? People are saying it's meh, at best. Paid shills are all using the same phrasing in their fake praise: "a triumph, " and "it elicited tears from me."
But the worst part?
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Totally Superman, right?
repost from last night:
You hear about the new fake "Superman" movie? People are saying it's meh, at best. Paid shills are all using the same phrasing in their fake praise: "a triumph, " and "it elicited tears from me."
But the worst part?
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
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I also don’t buy the “stop talking g about Epstein because Trump has more important things to do” argument.
He can walk and chew gum at the same time.
He can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:35 AM (ImXfC)
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And I thought it was because he couldn't see over the linemen and couldn't complete a pass.
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I thoroughly enjoyed his team's playoff win over the Steelers.
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I thoroughly enjoyed his team's playoff win over the Steelers.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 10:35 AM (Dv3i1)
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The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM
I believe Larry Niven had something to say about Superman 'spreading his seed'.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM
I believe Larry Niven had something to say about Superman 'spreading his seed'.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2025 10:35 AM (0sNs1)
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The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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The "conquer" part especially sounds more like General Zod.
Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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The "conquer" part especially sounds more like General Zod.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:35 AM (omVj0)
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Wolfus,
Use Uber. It's faster and usually cheaper than a cab. I used to use them at the old place when the truck was down.
Use Uber. It's faster and usually cheaper than a cab. I used to use them at the old place when the truck was down.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2025 10:35 AM (AcTAo)
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The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
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Supe is Muslim?
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Supe is Muslim?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:35 AM (ImXfC)
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:36 AM (fV+MH)
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Wait.. So now Trump is going after Adam Schiff for mortgage fraud ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 10:36 AM (VE6XX)
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I believe Larry Niven had something to say about Superman 'spreading his seed'.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2025
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Each of those little spermlets will have Kryptonian super-powers on Earth. Uh-oh.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2025
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Each of those little spermlets will have Kryptonian super-powers on Earth. Uh-oh.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:36 AM (omVj0)
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Keep in mind, the IGTD guy who is complaining about Epstein is the same guy who always complains about government spending money on stuff....
Keep in mind, the IGTD guy who is complaining about Epstein is the same guy who always complains about government spending money on stuff....
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:37 AM (PzXaK)
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:37 AM (fV+MH)
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>>Does law enforcement have an obligation to search for crimes to investigate? The way this is worded it doesn't seem 'smoking gun' worthy.
No, not here in America.
Focus people. Thibault was looking for a crime to investigate Trump.
Thibault was forced to "retire" from the FBI because of his extreme anti-Trump bias. He got that soft landing because of Wray.
No, not here in America.
Focus people. Thibault was looking for a crime to investigate Trump.
Thibault was forced to "retire" from the FBI because of his extreme anti-Trump bias. He got that soft landing because of Wray.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:37 AM (viF8m)
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The "conquer" part especially sounds more like General Zod.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
That's what pissed off fans are saying: James Gunn made Jor-El sympathetic to Zod, or made him Zod-lite.
The "conquer" part especially sounds more like General Zod.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
That's what pissed off fans are saying: James Gunn made Jor-El sympathetic to Zod, or made him Zod-lite.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:37 AM (N9VmQ)
Posted by: man at July 15, 2025 10:37 AM (tubbA)
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The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
This Superman would fly around the Earth releasing milt into the atmosphere? Are we fish?
Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
This Superman would fly around the Earth releasing milt into the atmosphere? Are we fish?
Posted by: Dr. Rumack at July 15, 2025 10:38 AM (wVcYX)
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What happened to the mortgage fraud thing with Latisha James?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (ImXfC)
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btw, I believe the Extended Cut of Donner's Superman (1979) has a conversation between Jor-El and Whatshername about how Kal-El would do on Earth.
btw, I believe the Extended Cut of Donner's Superman (1979) has a conversation between Jor-El and Whatshername about how Kal-El would do on Earth.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (N9VmQ)
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And just like that MAHA was in favor of high-fructose corn syrup.
Dept. of Agriculture @USDA 15h
🇺🇸 America First Trade Win 🇺🇸
In alignment with @SecRollins' Farmers First policies, USDA is blocking additional specialty sugars imports beyond what U.S. international obligations dictate. Statement from @DepSecVaden ⬇️ usda.gov/about-usda/news/pre…
Dept. of Agriculture @USDA 15h
🇺🇸 America First Trade Win 🇺🇸
In alignment with @SecRollins' Farmers First policies, USDA is blocking additional specialty sugars imports beyond what U.S. international obligations dictate. Statement from @DepSecVaden ⬇️ usda.gov/about-usda/news/pre…
Posted by: Forrest Hump at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (2yoRf)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (4IClK)
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This Superman would fly around the Earth releasing milt into the atmosphere?
Posted by: Dr. Rumack at July 15, 2025 10:38 AM
That's even worse than women in binders!!!!!
Posted by: Dr. Rumack at July 15, 2025 10:38 AM
That's even worse than women in binders!!!!!
Posted by: Democrats in 2012 at July 15, 2025 10:40 AM (0sNs1)
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also don’t buy the “stop talking g about Epstein because Trump has more important things to do” argument.
He can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:35 AM (ImXfC)
So you don’t believe in voter suppression or mandates to implement policies or every other negative that occurs from opposition operations?
I bet you were one who thought over turning Roe v Wade and pushing for strong state laws is why the GOP didn’t meet expectations in the mid terms.
He can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:35 AM (ImXfC)
So you don’t believe in voter suppression or mandates to implement policies or every other negative that occurs from opposition operations?
I bet you were one who thought over turning Roe v Wade and pushing for strong state laws is why the GOP didn’t meet expectations in the mid terms.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:40 AM (VofaG)
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252 And just like that MAHA was in favor of high-fructose corn syrup.
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Chuck Grassley is capable of multi-tasking it seems.
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Chuck Grassley is capable of multi-tasking it seems.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 10:40 AM (Dv3i1)
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231 @ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Does law enforcement have an obligation to search for crimes to investigate? The way this is worded it doesn't seem 'smoking gun' worthy.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 10:33 AM (Dv3i1)
It is like Beria, Stalins Secret Police minister: "Show me the man, I'll show you the crime."
Stalinist and totalitarian systems identify an "Enemy of the State" and then look for manufactured crimes to charge him with. Free societies, such as our is supposed to be, wait unti a crime is reported, or there is some reasonable suspicion of a crime, and then they investigate to find who was responsible.
The email is an admission that Thibaut was/is a Stalinist.
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
Does law enforcement have an obligation to search for crimes to investigate? The way this is worded it doesn't seem 'smoking gun' worthy.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 10:33 AM (Dv3i1)
It is like Beria, Stalins Secret Police minister: "Show me the man, I'll show you the crime."
Stalinist and totalitarian systems identify an "Enemy of the State" and then look for manufactured crimes to charge him with. Free societies, such as our is supposed to be, wait unti a crime is reported, or there is some reasonable suspicion of a crime, and then they investigate to find who was responsible.
The email is an admission that Thibaut was/is a Stalinist.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 10:41 AM (uWKK8)
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btw, I believe the Extended Cut of Donner's Superman (1979) has a conversation between Jor-El and Whatshername about how Kal-El would do on Earth.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (N9VmQ)
That is another thing about the franchise that takes me out of it all. If Jor-El could launch his kid off the planet, why could he and his wife also go on the rocket...?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (N9VmQ)
That is another thing about the franchise that takes me out of it all. If Jor-El could launch his kid off the planet, why could he and his wife also go on the rocket...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:41 AM (PzXaK)
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was for crimes he did in NY.
Posted by: polynikes
For 2002 to 2005.
14 to 17 years prior.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (4IClK)
See NY vs Donald Trump
Posted by: polynikes
For 2002 to 2005.
14 to 17 years prior.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (4IClK)
See NY vs Donald Trump
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:41 AM (VofaG)
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btw, I believe the Extended Cut of Donner's Superman (1979) has a conversation between Jor-El and Whatshername about how Kal-El would do on Earth.
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That sounds like a real party!
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That sounds like a real party!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2025 10:41 AM (2yoRf)
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That is another thing about the franchise that takes me out of it all. If Jor-El could launch his kid off the planet, why could he and his wife also go on the rocket...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor
Um.....
it's a comic book?
I dunno. Maybe they were claustrophobic.
That is another thing about the franchise that takes me out of it all. If Jor-El could launch his kid off the planet, why could he and his wife also go on the rocket...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor
Um.....
it's a comic book?
I dunno. Maybe they were claustrophobic.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:42 AM (N9VmQ)
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So you don’t believe in voter suppression or mandates to implement policies or every other negative that occurs from opposition operations?
I bet you were one who thought over turning Roe v Wade and pushing for strong state laws is why the GOP didn’t meet expectations in the mid terms.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:40 AM (VofaG)
Again, walk and chew gum.
So you don’t believe in voter suppression or mandates to implement policies or every other negative that occurs from opposition operations?
I bet you were one who thought over turning Roe v Wade and pushing for strong state laws is why the GOP didn’t meet expectations in the mid terms.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:40 AM (VofaG)
Again, walk and chew gum.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:42 AM (ImXfC)
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>>The email is an admission that Thibaut was/is a Stalinist.
There were a number of recipients on that email.
Conspiracy.
There were a number of recipients on that email.
Conspiracy.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:42 AM (viF8m)
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"That is another thing about the franchise that takes me out of it all. If Jor-El could launch his kid off the planet, why could he and his wife also go on the rocket...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor "
Do you want MOVIE to happen or not?
You're gonna have to get way off MOVIE's back on that.
Posted by: WitchDoktor "
Do you want MOVIE to happen or not?
You're gonna have to get way off MOVIE's back on that.
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 10:43 AM (fV+MH)
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> Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
The character's original name was Ubermensch. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
The character's original name was Ubermensch. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 10:43 AM (qpyNK)
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Isn't the Epstein thing about removing corrupt or compromised customers who might be in office or working in government?
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 15, 2025 10:43 AM (EcHpA)
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Actually, Tim Tebow was a good player and could've been great in the NFL.
But the jock-sniffing faggot fake sports writers hated him.
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My father is John Elway!
Actually, Tim Tebow was a good player and could've been great in the NFL.
But the jock-sniffing faggot fake sports writers hated him.
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My father is John Elway!
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 10:43 AM (W3T6M)
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btw, I believe the Extended Cut of Donner's Superman (1979) has a conversation between Jor-El and Whatshername about how Kal-El would do on Earth.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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There were also deleted scenes that I saw once, on the broadcast TV premiere of the first movie. One has Superman, approaching Luthor's lair for the first time, moving through a shadowy corridor. Luthor's machine gun opens fire, and we see the bullets sparking and bouncing off him.
Later, when he is trying to stop the missile going to Mis Tesmacher's home town, we see him hanging in the air, waiting for it -- and then it *evades* him. This is why he is seen chasing it down. If Metropolis in his world is located here NYC is, he wouldn't be chasing a missile heading for NJ unless it got past him first. A shame the released film cut both of these scenes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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There were also deleted scenes that I saw once, on the broadcast TV premiere of the first movie. One has Superman, approaching Luthor's lair for the first time, moving through a shadowy corridor. Luthor's machine gun opens fire, and we see the bullets sparking and bouncing off him.
Later, when he is trying to stop the missile going to Mis Tesmacher's home town, we see him hanging in the air, waiting for it -- and then it *evades* him. This is why he is seen chasing it down. If Metropolis in his world is located here NYC is, he wouldn't be chasing a missile heading for NJ unless it got past him first. A shame the released film cut both of these scenes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:43 AM (omVj0)
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But the worst part?
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
____
"Amateur"
-- Ghenghis Khan
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
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"Amateur"
-- Ghenghis Khan
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 10:44 AM (iFTx/)
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Um.....
it's a comic book?
I dunno. Maybe they were claustrophobic.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:42 AM (N9VmQ)
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Haha, I have been know to take some things a little too seriously.
it's a comic book?
I dunno. Maybe they were claustrophobic.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:42 AM (N9VmQ)
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Haha, I have been know to take some things a little too seriously.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:44 AM (PzXaK)
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249 The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton."
Now I'm thinking of a great offshoot movie, should have been made in the 70's with Richard Roundtree in the lead role;
SuperMandingo!
Now I'm thinking of a great offshoot movie, should have been made in the 70's with Richard Roundtree in the lead role;
SuperMandingo!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 10:44 AM (uWKK8)
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But the worst part?
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
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That "restored footage" never actually plays during the movie itself--one of Luthor's henchmen asserts it, then Luthor asserts it, and the press runs with it. In my opinion that part of the story could be found fraudulent in a later movie (if the director/writer wished to go that direction).
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
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That "restored footage" never actually plays during the movie itself--one of Luthor's henchmen asserts it, then Luthor asserts it, and the press runs with it. In my opinion that part of the story could be found fraudulent in a later movie (if the director/writer wished to go that direction).
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 10:44 AM (TN0g+)
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Again, walk and chew gum.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:42 AM (ImXfC)
Sorry I don’t get how that supports anything you’ve been saying I assume just like you don’t get anything I’m saying.
We have reached an impasse.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:42 AM (ImXfC)
Sorry I don’t get how that supports anything you’ve been saying I assume just like you don’t get anything I’m saying.
We have reached an impasse.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:45 AM (VofaG)
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> jock-sniffing faggot
I saw Jock-Sniffing Faggot open for the Village People at a disco back in '78
I saw Jock-Sniffing Faggot open for the Village People at a disco back in '78
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (qpyNK)
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128 The Muslim running for mayor of Mogadishu, MN alerted me to the fact Minnesota now provides free college for “poor” people. Their definition of poor? Families making under $80k a year.
Which is interesting given the median household income in the country is $75k.
Socialism is creeping in slowly nationwide.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM (ImXfC)
Nothing is free. Did anyone tell him that?
Which is interesting given the median household income in the country is $75k.
Socialism is creeping in slowly nationwide.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:00 AM (ImXfC)
Nothing is free. Did anyone tell him that?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (Pce4l)
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A shame the released film cut both of these scenes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Maybe someday with Ace we'll discuss how Superman II has TWO Directors!
You can watch the Donner version, or the Other Guy (forgot his name, Kasdan?) version. Donner was fired, I believe.
A shame the released film cut both of these scenes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Maybe someday with Ace we'll discuss how Superman II has TWO Directors!
You can watch the Donner version, or the Other Guy (forgot his name, Kasdan?) version. Donner was fired, I believe.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (N9VmQ)
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That "restored footage" never actually plays during the movie itself--one of Luthor's henchmen asserts it, then Luthor asserts it, and the press runs with it. In my opinion that part of the story could be found fraudulent in a later movie (if the director/writer wished to go that direction).
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025
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Then it's Luthor propaganda, and not to be taken as "text."
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025
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Then it's Luthor propaganda, and not to be taken as "text."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (omVj0)
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274 > jock-sniffing faggot
I saw Jock-Sniffing Faggot open for the Village People at a disco back in '78
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (qpyNK)
I don’t sniff jocks…
I saw Jock-Sniffing Faggot open for the Village People at a disco back in '78
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (qpyNK)
I don’t sniff jocks…
Posted by: MiG-15 at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (Pce4l)
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265 > Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
The character's original name was Ubermensch. Ask me how I know.
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The Ubermensch died a syphilitic moron cared for by his only sister whose husband committed suicide due to a failed real estate investment in South America. Is this not the story of Biden? Note to self, never invest in South America.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:34 AM (N9VmQ)
The character's original name was Ubermensch. Ask me how I know.
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The Ubermensch died a syphilitic moron cared for by his only sister whose husband committed suicide due to a failed real estate investment in South America. Is this not the story of Biden? Note to self, never invest in South America.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (W3T6M)
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Sorry I don’t get how that supports anything you’ve been saying I assume just like you don’t get anything I’m saying.
We have reached an impasse.
Posted by: polynikes
You’re saying stop talking about this because it hurts Trump’s abilities to do things. I’m saying Trump can multi task.
We have reached an impasse.
Posted by: polynikes
You’re saying stop talking about this because it hurts Trump’s abilities to do things. I’m saying Trump can multi task.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:47 AM (ImXfC)
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Actually, Tim Tebow was a good player and could've been great in the NFL.
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No. The best Tebow could have ever been as a NFL Quarterback was "adequate". The primary job of an NFL Quarterback is to distribute the football, and far better passers than Tebow washed out of the league before getting 10 years of service time.
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No. The best Tebow could have ever been as a NFL Quarterback was "adequate". The primary job of an NFL Quarterback is to distribute the football, and far better passers than Tebow washed out of the league before getting 10 years of service time.
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 10:47 AM (TN0g+)
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A shame the released film cut both of these scenes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Maybe someday with Ace we'll discuss how Superman II has TWO Directors!
You can watch the Donner version, or the Other Guy (forgot his name, Kasdan?) version. Donner was fired, I believe.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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Richard Lester, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Maybe someday with Ace we'll discuss how Superman II has TWO Directors!
You can watch the Donner version, or the Other Guy (forgot his name, Kasdan?) version. Donner was fired, I believe.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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Richard Lester, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:47 AM (omVj0)
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The reason that only Superman was on the rocket in the original story is that it was a scale prototype and Jor-el ran out of time. It could only hold the baby and his mom but she wouldn't leave her husband because she wasn't a Supermom.
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 15, 2025 10:47 AM (EcHpA)
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267 213
Actually, Tim Tebow was a good player and could've been great in the NFL.
But the jock-sniffing faggot fake sports writers hated him.
Everyone hated him and was required to hate him.
As a Broncos fan, I did not get it.
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Actually, Tim Tebow was a good player and could've been great in the NFL.
But the jock-sniffing faggot fake sports writers hated him.
Everyone hated him and was required to hate him.
As a Broncos fan, I did not get it.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 10:48 AM (Pce4l)
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Tim Tebow is an amazing person and was a legend in college football. Unfortunately, he could not duplicate that in the pros. I'm a Jets fan, ask me how I know.
Now Bela Fleck can flat out pick.
https://tinyurl.com/5ecu5v85
Now Bela Fleck can flat out pick.
https://tinyurl.com/5ecu5v85
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:48 AM (viF8m)
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@ChuckGrassley
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
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Does law enforcement have an obligation to search for crimes to investigate? The way this is worded it doesn't seem 'smoking gun' worthy.
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Long-standing policy at the DOJ was to never, ever open an investigation unless there was clear evidence of a crime first.
And it was never, ever was a senior official to open an investigation, only field agents.
Thibault was a political hack desk jockey who stole a patrol car to find and pull over the guy running against his boss, smashed the taillight with his nightstick and then claimed he smelled alcohol on the driver.
Then ran into the DA's office, put on a suit, and filed DWI, resisting arrest and attempting to flee charges in the court of his father-in-law golfing buddy.
released emails include a smoking gun exposing how Tim Thibault was searching for a crime to investigate!
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Does law enforcement have an obligation to search for crimes to investigate? The way this is worded it doesn't seem 'smoking gun' worthy.
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Long-standing policy at the DOJ was to never, ever open an investigation unless there was clear evidence of a crime first.
And it was never, ever was a senior official to open an investigation, only field agents.
Thibault was a political hack desk jockey who stole a patrol car to find and pull over the guy running against his boss, smashed the taillight with his nightstick and then claimed he smelled alcohol on the driver.
Then ran into the DA's office, put on a suit, and filed DWI, resisting arrest and attempting to flee charges in the court of his father-in-law golfing buddy.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 10:48 AM (VlU/R)
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Tebow was the right’s version of Kapernick. A mediocre QB who became a cultural icon for political reasons.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:49 AM (ImXfC)
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Posted by: Forrest Hump at July 15, 2025 10:39 AM (2yoRf)
I know this has been unpopular, but your body does not process high fructose corn syrup differently than honey - in fact, honey has more fructose. The issue is HFCS is mainly used in highly processed, unhealthy foods in general. That is the problem, not necessarily the HFCS on its own.
I know this has been unpopular, but your body does not process high fructose corn syrup differently than honey - in fact, honey has more fructose. The issue is HFCS is mainly used in highly processed, unhealthy foods in general. That is the problem, not necessarily the HFCS on its own.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 10:50 AM (pZEOD)
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You’re saying stop talking about this because it hurts Trump’s abilities to do things. I’m saying Trump can multi task.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:47 AM (ImXfC)
I’m not saying stop talking about Epstein. I’m saying making it a huge Trump scandal is probably the stupidest political self goal I’ve seen.
And Trump’s ability to multi task has nothing whatsoever to do with the effects of a fake scandal.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:47 AM (ImXfC)
I’m not saying stop talking about Epstein. I’m saying making it a huge Trump scandal is probably the stupidest political self goal I’ve seen.
And Trump’s ability to multi task has nothing whatsoever to do with the effects of a fake scandal.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:50 AM (VofaG)
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Richard Donner had quite the directing career. He did some Twilight Zone shows, including "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet," several Man From U.N.C.L.E. episodes, and more, before moving into films.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 10:50 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:51 AM (N9VmQ)
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276 Maybe someday with Ace we'll discuss how Superman II has TWO Directors!
You can watch the Donner version, or the Other Guy (forgot his name, Kasdan?) version. Donner was fired, I believe.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (N9VmQ)
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Richard Lester, the director of the Beatles movies.
You can watch the Donner version, or the Other Guy (forgot his name, Kasdan?) version. Donner was fired, I believe.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:46 AM (N9VmQ)
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Richard Lester, the director of the Beatles movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 10:51 AM (GBKbO)
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i love eating my shit pebbles
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (CsSiD)
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Which is better, the Donner or the Lester version?
Which is better, the Donner or the Lester version?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (N9VmQ)
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I was a contender!
Posted by: Johnny Manziel at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (wVcYX)
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>>But the worst part?
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE MEDIA HAS INSISTED THIS IS AN IMMIGRANT STORY. OOPS
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE MEDIA HAS INSISTED THIS IS AN IMMIGRANT STORY. OOPS
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (GbwPZ)
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The character's original name was Ubermensch. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 10:43 AM
That man is a Jew!
Posted by: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche at July 15, 2025 10:43 AM
That man is a Jew!
Posted by: Ich bin Uberman at July 15, 2025 10:53 AM (jc0TO)
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Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (CsSiD)
Your nic literally says SID. And you suck cock by choice.
Your nic literally says SID. And you suck cock by choice.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:53 AM (viF8m)
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Which is better, the Donner or the Lester version?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (N9VmQ)
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I prefer the Donner version.
Neither are...perfect.
Lester's is sillier. Donner's is partially made up of test footage (the scene that Reeves and Kidder tested for is in the film...the actual audition footage). Donner's recycles the ending of the first (it was originally supposed to be the ending of the second).
But, Donner's feels more right to me.
Which is better, the Donner or the Lester version?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (N9VmQ)
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I prefer the Donner version.
Neither are...perfect.
Lester's is sillier. Donner's is partially made up of test footage (the scene that Reeves and Kidder tested for is in the film...the actual audition footage). Donner's recycles the ending of the first (it was originally supposed to be the ending of the second).
But, Donner's feels more right to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)
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My understanding is that Superman and Superman II were slated to be one single film. Kind of explains some of the oddities and narrative jumps in the second movie.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:54 AM (PzXaK)
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The NFL is set up for pocket passers. Anything else is a novelty.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 10:54 AM (jc0TO)
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297 >>But the worst part?
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE MEDIA HAS INSISTED THIS IS AN IMMIGRANT STORY. OOPS
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (GbwPZ)
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Apparently, this was an 80s comic take on Superman's origin.
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE MEDIA HAS INSISTED THIS IS AN IMMIGRANT STORY. OOPS
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 15, 2025 10:52 AM (GbwPZ)
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Apparently, this was an 80s comic take on Superman's origin.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 10:54 AM (GBKbO)
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Hey guys, Kirk Cousins is still in the mix. Kirk was the insurance policy to RGIII that Shanahan invested in. Finally, an insurance policy that pays off.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 10:54 AM (W3T6M)
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My problem is Tebow was never given a chance to prove his critics wrong. All Tebow knew how to do was win when he was at the helm. He led his NFL team to the conference championship and was summarily dismissed subsequent to that.
It’s the same problem I had with experts and Doug Flutie.
It’s the same problem I had with experts and Doug Flutie.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 10:54 AM (VofaG)
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302 The NFL is set up for pocket passers. Anything else is a novelty.
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See my comment at 304.
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See my comment at 304.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 10:55 AM (W3T6M)
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301 My understanding is that Superman and Superman II were slated to be one single film. Kind of explains some of the oddities and narrative jumps in the second movie.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:54 AM (PzXaK)
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Two films, made at the same time (kind of like the Back to the Future sequels).
The went into production without finished scripts. The producers, the husband and wife Salkinds, had no idea what they were doing and imagined themselves to be Selznicks.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:54 AM (PzXaK)
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Two films, made at the same time (kind of like the Back to the Future sequels).
The went into production without finished scripts. The producers, the husband and wife Salkinds, had no idea what they were doing and imagined themselves to be Selznicks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 10:55 AM (GBKbO)
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The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
I don’t mind that at all. It’s what makes the movie a story about assimilation instead of a dreary anti-ICE metaphor. (Also, entirely on point for what many illegals, especially Muslims, want to do).
I don’t mind that at all. It’s what makes the movie a story about assimilation instead of a dreary anti-ICE metaphor. (Also, entirely on point for what many illegals, especially Muslims, want to do).
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 10:56 AM (QZThv)
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I bet IGTD will be first in line to see the new Oliver Stone movie "Epstein."
Love combining topics here.
Love combining topics here.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 10:56 AM (PzXaK)
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But, Donner's feels more right to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)
You can sink your teeth into it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)
You can sink your teeth into it.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 10:56 AM (wVcYX)
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>>Tebow was the right’s version of Kapernick. A mediocre QB who became a cultural icon for political reasons.
Not a football fan or expert, but when Tebow was at the Broncos, the entire team was happier, positive, and appeared to work better together. Probably helped that replaced an arrogant jerk of a QB, but still. And Tebow, being a media magnet. ALWAYS used that to draw attention to other people, such as the special need kid he invited to each game. He seemed to make everyone around him better.
Not a football fan or expert, but when Tebow was at the Broncos, the entire team was happier, positive, and appeared to work better together. Probably helped that replaced an arrogant jerk of a QB, but still. And Tebow, being a media magnet. ALWAYS used that to draw attention to other people, such as the special need kid he invited to each game. He seemed to make everyone around him better.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 10:56 AM (GbwPZ)
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In fairness, running QBs can't take the beating for a decade+ that franchises expect from a QB.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 10:56 AM (jc0TO)
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I’m not saying stop talking about Epstein. I’m saying making it a huge Trump scandal is probably the stupidest political self goal I’ve seen.
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He made it a scandal himself.
I’m not saying stop talking about Epstein. I’m saying making it a huge Trump scandal is probably the stupidest political self goal I’ve seen.
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He made it a scandal himself.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 10:58 AM (ImXfC)
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Tebow was a college passer. He could hit a guy that was open by 5 yards. He was not an NFL passer.
He's doing great. Nobody needs to shed a tear for a great and happy guy like Tebow.
He's doing great. Nobody needs to shed a tear for a great and happy guy like Tebow.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 10:58 AM (viF8m)
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It's just business.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 10:59 AM (jc0TO)
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312 In fairness, running QBs can't take the beating for a decade+ that franchises expect from a QB.
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BOLO for a damaged Commander QB this year. When you scalp the Redskins there will be consequences.
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BOLO for a damaged Commander QB this year. When you scalp the Redskins there will be consequences.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 10:59 AM (W3T6M)
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He seemed to make everyone around him better.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 10:56 AM (GbwPZ)
So you could say the left version is a shithead and the right version is a decent person.
Interesting, that.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 10:56 AM (GbwPZ)
So you could say the left version is a shithead and the right version is a decent person.
Interesting, that.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2025 11:00 AM (RlmPm)
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Noodus MisHum rant
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 11:00 AM (omVj0)
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>>He's doing great. Nobody needs to shed a tear for a great and happy guy like Tebow.
Yeah, it was obvious that football was not his life, and wherever he went, he was going to make it better.
Yeah, it was obvious that football was not his life, and wherever he went, he was going to make it better.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 11:00 AM (GbwPZ)
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EPSTEIN SHOT KENNEDY!!!!!
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 11:00 AM (PzXaK)
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Nood gorilla!
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 11:00 AM (uxAXv)
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I seem to recall that Gallup, once you strip away the "reputation," which is really just a artifact of longevity, is one of the least accurate pollsters now.
But, I also think they just poll fluff stuff now, not like "A or B" but, "how do you feel?"
But, I also think they just poll fluff stuff now, not like "A or B" but, "how do you feel?"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 11:01 AM (VlU/R)
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NOOD very angry Gorilla
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 11:02 AM (VE6XX)
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280 Sorry I don’t get how that supports anything you’ve been saying I assume just like you don’t get anything I’m saying.
We have reached an impasse.
Posted by: polynikes
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You are essentially trying to have a logical dialectic discussion with someone not amenable to reasoning that spouts rhetoric with every post.
Nevertrumper essentially with the endless complaints, never a positive word, nor anything concrete other than opinions devoid of factual context.
We have reached an impasse.
Posted by: polynikes
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You are essentially trying to have a logical dialectic discussion with someone not amenable to reasoning that spouts rhetoric with every post.
Nevertrumper essentially with the endless complaints, never a positive word, nor anything concrete other than opinions devoid of factual context.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2025 11:04 AM (ctrM5)
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In the painting , I like that they're holding each others hands, the contrast of her pink shawl against his black outfit, that she's reading a book and there is a view of the ocean through the background window . I really haven't seen a lot of Millais' work aside from the too oft reproduced picture of Ophelia in the water , but he was certainly miles ahead of the British "artist's " work which we had yesterday.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 11:05 AM (2GCMq)
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I know this has been unpopular, but your body does not process high fructose corn syrup differently than honey - in fact, honey has more fructose.
If we were talking about honey, you might have a point.
At issue is fructose versus glucose, or sugar. While they are chemically very similar, they are handled completely different. Every cell in the human body can utilize glucose, and indeed can establish a preference for it over time as the fat burning parhways become atrophied from disuse.
Fructose can only be metabolized in the liver. Because of this fact it is under study for cheonic conditions related to non-alcoholic fatty liver syndrome, very commonly associated with obesity, metabolic syndrome, etc.
It also tastes like shit, so there’s that too.
If we were talking about honey, you might have a point.
At issue is fructose versus glucose, or sugar. While they are chemically very similar, they are handled completely different. Every cell in the human body can utilize glucose, and indeed can establish a preference for it over time as the fat burning parhways become atrophied from disuse.
Fructose can only be metabolized in the liver. Because of this fact it is under study for cheonic conditions related to non-alcoholic fatty liver syndrome, very commonly associated with obesity, metabolic syndrome, etc.
It also tastes like shit, so there’s that too.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (5j54Z)
The Morning Report — 7/15/25
The Supreme Court issued a 6-3 ruling on Monday allowing President Donald Trump’s Department of Education to resume efforts to slash its workforce in half. The decision reverses a lower court ruling ordering the reinstatement of Department of Education employees cut loose in mass layoffs, and ultimately allows Education Secretary Linda McMahon to continue her mission of winding down the department.The abolition of the agency itself would be ideal yet that would I believe require an act of congress and considering the Democrats reaction would be that of Dracula being doused with a vat of holy water, while the GOP would be aghast at losing an opportunity for grift. So Linda McMahon taking an axe to this viper's nest of perversion and bolshevism from within is fine by me, and hopefully all the other heads of all the other agencies and bureaucracies will follow suit. The fact that much if not all of the bureaucracy created during and after the accursed New Deal is antithetical to the Constitution and the Republic as founded, all of it is supposed to operate under the aegis and as a part of the Executive branch, and so it should stand to reason that the President has the authority to direct his duly appointed and congressionally confirmed department heads to do as he sees fit. But of course, since it's Donald Trump that is POTUS it's a different story with our so-called Democrat "defenders of our precious democracy" (vomit). On a negative note:
Late Friday, Massachusetts federal judge Indira Talwani, a Barack Obama appointee, dissolved the TRO she had entered earlier in the week against the Trump Administration. Mere hours after Planned Parenthood filed suit against the Department of Health and Human Services, challenging Congress’s decision in the Big, Beautiful Bill to no longer fund abortion providers, Judge Talwani issued a TRO. That 5:15 p.m. Monday TRO failed to provide any legal justification for her decision requiring the Trump Administration to continue disbursing Medicaid funding to all Planned Parenthood organizations. The Trump Administration responded with a Motion to Dissolve the TRO, stressing that “a TRO cannot issue without complying with a series of mandatory procedural requirements” and that Judge Talwani “ignored those most basic criteria.” Accordingly, the Trump Administration argued in its Motion, “[t]he Court must therefore dissolve its TRO as soon as possible.” Federal rules also require a judge who enters an ex parte TRO to “describe the [movant’s] injury and state why it is irreparable [and] state why the order was issued without notice.” Again, Judge Talwani blatantly violated that mandatory rule, by failing to explain the purported irreparable harm. Judge Talwani attempted to rectify her errors on Friday by dissolving her initial TRO and entering an amended TRO that “provide[d] the court’s reasons for the emergency order.” But rather than remedy the defective TRO, Judge Talwani’s reasoning confirms that she never should have entered a TRO in the first instance.
So this polliwog hack-in-black botched her first completely illegal TRO which got smacked down so in the name of glorious baby-butchery issues another one. It is high time for President of the United States of America Donald J. Trump to finally drive a stake through the heart of Marbury v. Madison and unilaterally declare this hack's actions illegal, irrelevant, null and void, and strip Planned Mengele-hood of the money. Period full stop. On top of that, let's see Congress impeach this evil hag and see that she is never allowed within a thousand miles of any courthouse, unless it is as a defendant wearing an orange jumpsuit, mantacles and leg-irons. And while Stacy Abrams is a literal shit-stain human or otherwise is TBD, as explained in the Culture Wars section, Barack Obama said what?
Obama Tells Whining Democrats: Drop the ‘Fetal Position’ and Start FightingYou mean like with Molotov cocktails against ICE agents or by verbally assaulting J.D. Vance and his children or by shooting up churches and synagogues? Oh wait, they're already doing that! "Fetal" is an interesting if not ironic word for him to use, considering Kermit Gosnell et al...
Detestable, despicable lout. The Angel of Death cannot come in a swoop him and everyone like him up fast enough for me.
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- The question at the center of the 1925 Scopes Monkey trial was much more than the origins of human beings.
Secular Mythology: The Scopes Monkey Trial
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- The majority did not issue an opinion to accompany the order, which is not out of the ordinary. However, the court’s three liberal-leaning justices dissented, decrying the ruling as “indefensible.” (blow it out your collective subhuman exhaust port - jjs)
Supreme Court Allows Trump’s Education Department to Resume Layoffs - The long-term benefits that the Trump Administration will provide to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park are endless, and efforts such as this are often not given the spotlight that they rightly deserve.
TENNESSEE REP JEREMY FAISON: Trump's 'Make America Beautiful Again' executive order will revitalize national parks like the Great Smoky Mountains "BIDEN/HARRIS BORDER BLOODBATH," AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY, NEWSOM/DEMOCRAT VIOLENT INSURRECTION RIOTS - Mr. Murphy said in February that he was prepared to house a woman who immigration status was unclear at his family’s home in Middletown. F.B.I. agents have since sought to interview at least four witnesses in connection with the comments, two of the people said, with one adding that the governor had been subpoenaed but not questioned.
Governor Murphy subpeonad about sheltering illegals - Democrats, such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom, are once again repeating their fatal mistake: leaping at the opportunity to champion supposedly innocent illegal aliens before more background information is known.
Newsom Steps On Political Landmine, Repeats Party’s Infamous Mistake
- ICE alleges that the card was shared with protestors who were throwing rocks at agents.
Rep. Carbajal Under Fire from ICE for Sharing Agent’s Info During Chaotic Cannabis Raid
- “As BP agents arrested Caravello, they placed him on his stomach on the ground. BP Agent R.C. gave Caravello verbal commands to give law enforcement officers his arms but Caravellowould not comply and attempted to grab a BP Agent’s leg,” the complaint alleged. (ICE should've stomped his pea brain into mush - jjs)
California professor arrested for allegedly tossing tear gas canister at ICE agents during raid on cannabis farm
- Leftist hyperbole aside, the conditions are exactly what they should be and no worse than what Americans experience, whether in jail or boot camp.
The Conditions at Alligator Alcatraz are Breakin’ My Heart! (I feel bad for the poor alligators surrounded by wetback gangsters and thugs- jjs) CIVIL WAR 2.0: J-6 FBI FALSE FLAG "RIOT" & AFTERMATH, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION - Sometimes we see the divine hand of providence work in the shadows. Other times, it’s caught on live television.
2024 Was A Year Of Bullet-Dodging
- Leftists try to hide that fact, especially because they’ve created the problem. (Still enslaved by Dems after all these years - jjs)
Poor Black Children Face a Dismal Future
- Perhaps even more loathsome was DNC official Jane Fleming Kleeb’s (no relation to me) treatment of Vance. . . She crossed paths with the vice-president, who was holding his 5-year-old son, Vivek, and thought it prudent to scream at him like an over-served sports fan in the cheap seats.
Gavin Newsom is a craven opportunist, as his — and other Dems’ — attack on JD Vance at Disneyland shows (more like a piece-of-shit-scumbag - jjs) THE ECONOMY, STUPID - These organizations have the resources and reach to serve every corner of our nation, not just the affluent, coastal zip codes. When a hurricane knocks out power or a pandemic upends daily life, these companies often keep shelves stocked, services running, and communities connected.
Big business isn't your enemy—it helps keep America running ISRAEL AND USA vs IRAN - France’s top asylum court has ruled that all 'Palestinians' living in Gaza are now eligible to apply for full refugee status, overturning a previous decision.
Judge rules all 'Palestinians' living in Gaza are eligible for asylum in France
- A top Israeli strategic analyst thinks so.
Is Turkey ‘The New Iran’?
- The resignations come less than a week after the Trump administration sanctioned U.N. 'Palestinian' rights envoy Francesca Albanese
Anti-Israel UN Commissioners Resign En Masse After Trump Sanctions
- Is the intimation that the one very small Jewish nation is America’s enemy and that any American caring for it shows disloyalty not intolerance? If not, then what is?
The Damnation of Israel and Other Musings in the American Conservative
- Daniel Greenfield: It's not "extremism." It's Islam.
Over 350 Muslim Religious Leaders Endorse Oct 7 Massacres ASSAD REGIME COLLAPSES" - The fighting reportedly began on Friday when armed Bedouins seized a young Druze vegetable vendor on the highway between Sweida and the capital city of Damascus. The area where the kidnapping occurred is a predominantly Bedouin neighborhood in the majority-Druze city of Sweida.
Massive Clashes Between Druze and Muslim Bedouin Tribes Leave Dozens Dead in Syria WE-ALL-SLAM-FOR-I-SLAM - Bahrain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and the United Arab Emirates already consider the Hamas-affiliated organization to be a terrorist group
Ted Cruz Unveils Bill To Designate Muslim Brotherhood a Terrorist Organization, Anticipates Bipartisan Support
- A step in the right direction after nearly a quarter century. (But Hawaiian justices Buch M. Danno, Mac A Damian and Moe Loki have yet to overrule this ruling!! - jjs)
Appeals Court Throws Out 9/11 Plotters’ Plea Deal
- Once again the media and local authorities are silent.
Muslim Convert Shoots Up Kentucky Church (Trannies and Lefties and Muslims oh my! - jjs) RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS, - I’d say we don’t have to live like this, but progressive votes count just as much as ours. (No, it's the 'progressive" vote counters who count us out that matter most of all - jjs)
Electricity rations hit Dutch citizens as government goes ‘green’
- Dissonance in the Green Valhalla: German Workers Break the Climate Silence
A group of German industrial labor representatives has broken ranks to fiercely criticize Berlin’s climate policy.
- Trump to attend energy summit in Pennsylvania as data centers expected to send electricity bills soaring
How the AI Revolution Is Straining American Energy CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY - The state must reform its parole board and push back against the judiciary’s lenient sentencing mandates.
Why Is Massachusetts Releasing First-Degree Murderers?
- A Colorado man accused of attempting to kidnap an 11-year-old boy will no longer face charges after being found “mentally incompetent to stand trial,” according to the 18th Judicial District Attorney’s Office (DA). Solomon Galligan, 33, was charged with attempted kidnapping in April 2024 after allegedly trying to nab the child during recess at Black Forest Hills Elementary School in Aurora. The DA’s office told the Daily Caller it has not formally dismissed the charge but is required to do so by the end of the month.
Would-Be Child Kidnapper Walks Free In Colorado Due To ‘Mental Incompetence’ (that would be the mental incompetence of the judge - jjs) EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT - In Mahmoud v. Taylor, parents in Montgomery County, Md., argued that mandatory teaching of LGBT-themed books violated their families’ religious beliefs.
The left is a cult — and parents can fight it, with Supreme Court’s blessing - The faculty expressed disappointment that the board allowed external pressure to influence the university’s actions, which the board is supposed to prevent, according to the resolution. The resolution comes after the resignation of UVA’s president Jim Ryan, who the Trump administration allegedly pushed out due to his support of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI).
College Professors Launch Mutiny Against University That Followed Trump’s Orders
- The founder of the Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding has defended Hamas and other terrorist entities (they gladly took the blood money Rudy Giuliani rejected - jjs)
Academic Center Within Georgetown's Prestigious School of Foreign Service Has Long History of Terror-Supporting Leaders ABORTION - It is yet another example of egregious judicial overreach.
Judge Botches TRO In Planned Parenthood Case A Second Time
- U.S. District Judge Indira Talwani issued an amended temporary restraining order on Friday explaining why she decided to block the provision ahead of a hearing — after releasing an initial order on July 7 blocking the provision with no explanation, just hours after Planned Parenthood filed its lawsuit. Talwani released the updated order after the Trump administration asked her to dissolve what it called a “highly unusual” temporary restraining order, Reuters reported.
Obama-Appointed Judge Doubles Down on Vetoing Congress’s Defunding of Planned Parenthood SHAMPEACHMENTS, 2016 CLINTON/OBAMA COUP, CONGRESSIONAL PERSECUTION, SPYGATE, DEEP STATE, MUELLER DECEPTION - Despite a full-fledged and endless Special Counsel investigation coming up empty… Despite billions and billions of corporate dollars spent on years-long media investigations coming up empty… Despite all the congressional investigations coming up empty… Despite nearly ten years and a bottomless pile of money available to the organized left that has come up empty… Sixty-percent of Democrats still-Still-STILL believe Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign colluded with Russia to steal the election from Hillary Clinton.
60% of Democrats Still Believe Trump Colluded With Russia to Win 2016 Election DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY - Oh, NYT. I know you want to save Biden but sometimes less is more because now we have more questions!
NY Times Just Made the Autopen Scandal Worse for Biden
- Why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison if there is no list of clients to speak of?
Trump stands by Bondi amid controversy and MAGA discontent over Epstein files
- 'Taxpayers shouldn’t be forced to bankroll the Perchanga Tribe’s lavish lifestyles and radical views.'
Trump-Hating Native American Tribe Gets Millions In Taxpayer Dollars As Leaders Hobnob With Dems (IndianGiversTakers. Dump Elizabeth Warren at their door wrapped in a smallpox blanket - jjs) POLITICS - Polling data from Morning Consult, collected between July 4 and July 10, showed Trump’s approval rating at 44 percent, with 50 percent disapproval—a six-point drop from the previous month. While the poll does not isolate the Epstein controversy as the sole cause, the timing aligns with the growing unhappiness among Trump’s base.
Trump’s Approval Rating Takes a Hit Amidst Epstein Affair.
- Democrat strategist Brad Bannon told the Hill he thinks that Democrats are “still stuck in the same mud that they were in six months ago.” The report comes as the Democrat Party has been vying to win back voters they lost in the 2024 election cycle. (I pray for Malach-Ha-Mawis to take away every Democrat Leftist back to hell - jjs)
Dem Strategist Says Party Should ‘Pray’ For ‘F*cking Depression’ To Get Out Of Its ‘Mess’ - Obama’s rush to the rhetorical high ground comes in the wake of President Donald Trump’s triumphant return to the White House and the slew of Republican legislative victories ever since, the latest of which – the Big Beautiful Bill – was passed to yet more Democrat groans and bottom lip quivering, as Breitbart News reported.
Obama Tells Whining Democrats: Drop the ‘Fetal Position’ and Start Fighting (like with assassins, molotov cocktails and pallets of bricks?! - jjs)
- Fateh, who is currently a Minnesota state senator, posted a video to his X account calling to “protect” Minneapolis from a “hostile White House,” increase the minimum wage by $20 by 2028 and prohibit the Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) from “interacting” with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The mayoral candidate, who announced his candidacy in December, has a platform that strongly resembles Democrat New York City mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani’s.
Minneapolis Might Have Just Found Their Own Socialist Version Of Zohran Mamdani (That's a redundancy - jjs)
- One is a destroyer, the others builders that NYC needs.
Mamdani Vs. The Billionaires
- Bass has suffered a collapse in her approval rating. In January, in the immediate aftermath of the Palisades Fire, she was underwater, with 44% of likely voters disapproving and 42% approving of her performance. Another poll in May by the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies showed that she had crashed from 50% approval and 32% disapproval in October 2022 to 32% approval and 50% disapproval by 2025.
L.A. Mayor Karen Bass-tard Brags About the Wonderful Job She Is Doing THE UKRAINIAN "FRONT" - “We’re going to be doing very severe tariffs if we don’t have a deal in 50 days, tariffs at about 100 percent,” said Trump, adding that they would be “secondary tariffs” that target Russia’s remaining trade partners — thereby seeking to cripple Moscow’s ability to survive already sweeping Western sanctions.
Trump gives Russia 50 days to resolve Ukraine war (define "resolve" PDT - jjs)
- The president said that Europe would pay for the weapons.
Trump Strikes Deal With NATO To Send Weapons To Ukraine On Europe’s Dime FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL - Since Sec. of State Rubio reminded Panama of its treaty obligations, BlackRock purchased Hong Kong’s canal ports and its traffic has surged.
China Promoting South American Transcontinental Railway Project as Panama Canal Alternative
- The visit could influence British-American trade relations and marks a significant moment in the ongoing diplomatic relationship between the nations.
Trump Will Make an Unprecedented Second State Visit to the United Kingdom. DEFENSE, MILITARY, SECURITY AFFAIRS - China’s dual-carrier deployment shows Beijing is all-in on sea power—just as Washington debates gutting the very tool that has kept the Pacific in check for 80 years. (and much of the world's surface a de facto American mare nostrum - jjs)
The Age of the Aircraft Carrier Is Not Over: America Needs Its Big Decks HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE - Today, roughly 35 million Americans are living below the poverty line. Over 70 million people are on Medicaid.
How The One Big, Beautiful Bill Sustains And Saves Medicaid ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY - Cool image time! The picture. . . was taken by the Hubble Space Telescope as part of a research project to study globular clusters in galaxies other than the Milky Way.
A distant globular cluster (I can see Stacy Abrams from my back porch - jjs)
- “This is the most massive black hole binary we’ve observed through gravitational waves, and it presents a real challenge to our understanding of black hole formation,” says Professor Mark Hannam, from Cardiff University and a member of the LIGO Scientific Collaboration. “Black holes this massive are forbidden through standard stellar evolution models. One possibility is that the two black holes in this binary formed through earlier mergers of smaller black holes.”
LIGO detects gravitational waves of largest black hole merger yet (the Don Lemon joke tells itself - jjs) CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE - 'The Star-Spangled Banner is a sacred and unifying tradition,' Sen. Markwayne Mullin told The Daily Wire.
After Spanish National Anthem Debacle, Lawmakers Move To Keep ‘The Star Spangled Banner’ In English
- If there were any justice in baseball or politics, Abrams would be remembered as Atlanta’s biggest baseball villain since Jim Leyritz.
The All-Star Game That Wasn’t: Stacey Abrams, MLB, and the $100 Million Strikeout
- With the 2025 All-Star Game returning to Atlanta, the league is hoping time has washed away the shame of their earlier decision. They’d like us to forget the jobs lost, the lies repeated, and the integrity shattered. But we remember. (Stacey Abrams is a literal shit-stain from the bowels of Democrat/Leftism - jjs)
They Called It Jim Crow, Then Georgia Voters Proved Them Wrong
- Christian Toto: Woke actor's talking point silenced the chatty 'Club Random' host
John Leguizamo Stuns Bill Maher with Unhinged Claim
- The problem is that this modern Superman movie is not about “truth, justice, and the American way.” Instead, the film’s director and producer, James Gunn, decided it should instead be about “truth, justice, and the human way,” a statement that is not only meaningless and carrying far less substance, it is a slap in the face of the very noble American ideals of this very American legend.
Renewing the heroic Superman of America
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Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 15, 2025 07:39 AM (e5NfL)
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thx jjs
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 07:39 AM (gbOdA)
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Top 5! Go me!
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 07:40 AM (NR6c1)
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Yonder Horde
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 07:41 AM (Q4IgG)
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Willowed:
That's about mama doping up, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (N9VmQ)
With Valium, is my guess.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (aURVT)
In the 1960s? Probably Miltown.
That's about mama doping up, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (N9VmQ)
With Valium, is my guess.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (aURVT)
In the 1960s? Probably Miltown.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 07:42 AM (Dg2sF)
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Shorter Obama: "Let's you and him fight."
Of course, I'm sure there are Democrats who still believe in the Chocolate Messiah and will listen.
Morning, J.J.!
Of course, I'm sure there are Democrats who still believe in the Chocolate Messiah and will listen.
Morning, J.J.!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 07:43 AM (tT6L1)
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A wonderful morning! A happy summer day to all of you!
A wonderful morning! A happy summer day to all of you!
Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2025 07:44 AM (Y8DZL)
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Only in the mind of a psychotic Leftist impersonating a wise elder could the Left's behavior over the last decade and especially the last six months be viewed as the "fetal position." But this just sounds like the latest iteration of "they bring a knife, you bring a gun."
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 07:44 AM (WHfpM)
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BOING!
I'm seeing reports, pics, and vids of Syrian Jolani's jihadist animals killing and torturing Druze.
But Jolani wears a nice suit!
I'm seeing reports, pics, and vids of Syrian Jolani's jihadist animals killing and torturing Druze.
But Jolani wears a nice suit!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 07:45 AM (3447G)
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Poor Black Children Face a Dismal Future
And then grow up to be adults that vote for the politicians that cause the problems.
And then grow up to be adults that vote for the politicians that cause the problems.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 07:45 AM (NR6c1)
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Good morning horde!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 07:46 AM (ExV1e)
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And then grow up to be adults that vote for the politicians that cause the problems.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 07:45 AM (NR6c1)
There might be some movement on that point. I saw a picture of a local Republican party event, and noted several black men.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 07:45 AM (NR6c1)
There might be some movement on that point. I saw a picture of a local Republican party event, and noted several black men.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:47 AM (SfhV1)
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"France’s top asylum court has ruled that all 'Palestinians' living in Gaza are now eligible to apply for full refugee status, overturning a previous decision."
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Which means they can spread out across the EU.
Shouldn't all member nations have a say?
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Which means they can spread out across the EU.
Shouldn't all member nations have a say?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2025 07:47 AM (kpS4V)
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I wonder if France would like some of our "sparks of humanity?" They seem to be fond of such.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 07:49 AM (tT6L1)
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Everything I was going to post would be counter to current inter-web orthodoxy. So, I got nothing.
Who is John Galt ?
Who is John Galt ?
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 15, 2025 07:50 AM (afzKX)
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Incredibly, it looks like the longer blacks stay in school, the less educated they get! According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress’ (NAEP) 2022 reading assessment, 19% (Grade 4), 15% (Grade , and 6% (Grade 12) of black students were at or above the proficiency standard.
, and 6% (Grade 12) of black students were at or above the proficiency standard. Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 07:54 AM (gbOdA)
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I wonder if France would like some of our "sparks of humanity?" They seem to be fond of such.
Of course they don't. Just like the NorthEast wants them, wants to count them, then promptly wants them sent somewhere else.
Of course they don't. Just like the NorthEast wants them, wants to count them, then promptly wants them sent somewhere else.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 07:54 AM (L9uGN)
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I saw a picture of a local Republican party event, and noted several black men.
It's a start. Seriously, the GOP needs to do a lot more community outreach.
It's a start. Seriously, the GOP needs to do a lot more community outreach.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 07:55 AM (NR6c1)
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"Poor Black Children"...
It's a Bird! It's a Plane! It's White Liberal democrat Do-Gooder Woman to the rescue!
It's a Bird! It's a Plane! It's White Liberal democrat Do-Gooder Woman to the rescue!
Posted by: Beware The White Liberal Do-Gooder at July 15, 2025 07:55 AM (r/wv3)
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I see that John MacArthur has died. I don't know if I should be sad. Sad for us, glad for him I guess. He ran the good race, fought the good fight.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:55 AM (SfhV1)
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The efflorescing anti-Semitism in this country is getting scary.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 07:56 AM (WHfpM)
Posted by: Navin Johnson at July 15, 2025 07:56 AM (tubbA)
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Morning.
So this polliwog hack-in-black botched her first completely illegal TRO which got smacked down so in the name of glorious baby-butchery issues another one.
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It's unclear from the story. DID it get smacked down, or did she change it because she realized it would?
So this polliwog hack-in-black botched her first completely illegal TRO which got smacked down so in the name of glorious baby-butchery issues another one.
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It's unclear from the story. DID it get smacked down, or did she change it because she realized it would?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2025 07:56 AM (od0dV)
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Barky is too fey to be a lout. He's a slap fighter, not Stanley Kowalski.
Barky is too fey to be a lout. He's a slap fighter, not Stanley Kowalski.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:56 AM (xG4kz)
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I see that John MacArthur has died. I don't know if I should be sad. Sad for us, glad for him I guess. He ran the good race, fought the good fight.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:55 AM (SfhV1)
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Indeed.
Morning, grammie!
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:55 AM (SfhV1)
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Indeed.
Morning, grammie!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 07:57 AM (tT6L1)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 07:57 AM (ExV1e)
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Good morning blake!
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:57 AM (SfhV1)
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As if France wasn't struggling enough with its own dying cultural identity, here come the waves of "Palestinians," the group nobody wants in their countries because they are that bad. Good-bye, France.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 07:58 AM (qBdHI)
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> "France’s top asylum court has ruled that all 'Palestinians' living in Gaza are now eligible to apply for full refugee status, overturning a previous decision."
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Doesn't France (among other European countries) have a fairly large Muslim population in their government(s)?
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Doesn't France (among other European countries) have a fairly large Muslim population in their government(s)?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 07:59 AM (Q4IgG)
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I predict a district court judge will strike down President Trump’s pardons at the end of his term.
I came to this conclusion when I asked myself why doesn’t one of our district court judges strike down bidens bogus pardons.
I came to this conclusion when I asked myself why doesn’t one of our district court judges strike down bidens bogus pardons.
Posted by: Cray Cray at July 15, 2025 08:00 AM (m5QkO)
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 08:01 AM (Oy/m2)
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Earlier this morning, I read the American Thinker piece on the outlook for impoverished Black children in the US. Makes me weep for 4 reasons: (1) all children of this Divine Land need nursing mothers and fathers (especially this group due to the way that their traditional families have been destroyed by their feral fathering), (2) the DemoNcrat National org has pulled one of the biggest cons ever upon any ethnic group because of their psychological and physical enslavements of this group, and (3) those enslaved by 130+ years of posing and lies by the Left actually allow themselves to not see the truth about the enslavement and shackel themselves willingly over. .. .and over. . . and over, and (4) I think of the prices that have been paid by brave, intelligent, ever-striving black citizens who have overcome. . . . .and I mean TRULY overcome this enslavement.
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards and Professional Blacks at July 15, 2025 08:01 AM (HeR4S)
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I wonder if France would like some of our "sparks of humanity?" They seem to be fond of such
You did them a grave disservice.
They are 'sparks of divinity', according to Nanzi.
I wonder if France would like some of our "sparks of humanity?" They seem to be fond of such
You did them a grave disservice.
They are 'sparks of divinity', according to Nanzi.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 08:01 AM (xG4kz)
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The question at the center of the 1925 Scopes Monkey trial was much more than the origins of human beings.
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Two things worth noting:
1. H L Mencken (unlike the Gene Kelly character based on him) flat out thought they had the right to insist on the curriculum they were defending.
2. When the time came to appeal, they got rid of Darrow, whose games wouldn't fly in higher level courts.
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Two things worth noting:
1. H L Mencken (unlike the Gene Kelly character based on him) flat out thought they had the right to insist on the curriculum they were defending.
2. When the time came to appeal, they got rid of Darrow, whose games wouldn't fly in higher level courts.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2025 08:01 AM (od0dV)
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Morning all
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 08:02 AM (4IClK)
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I'm curious. Did Obama or Biden ever nominate an actual American to be a district court judge?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 15, 2025 08:02 AM (dDmld)
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Obama Tells Whining Democrats: Drop the ‘Fetal Position’ and Start Fighting
They are already 'fighting' with every legal or semi-legal method they can summon.
This is Obama specifically telling them to roll out more assassins.
They are already 'fighting' with every legal or semi-legal method they can summon.
This is Obama specifically telling them to roll out more assassins.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 08:03 AM (t0Rmr)
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Thank you JJ
The Vance Disneyland incident is sad
BTW… I can tell from occasionally punishing myself with looks at MSNBC and CNN… Dems really really really want the Epstein kerfuffle to fracture the MAGA coalition. They’re grasping at straws; it’s almost amusing how they see almost any development as a sign of MAGA doom. The left is just as good at wishcasting as we sometimes are
They also delight in saying “Putin duped Trump!”… but I thought they were colluding so which is it?
The Vance Disneyland incident is sad
BTW… I can tell from occasionally punishing myself with looks at MSNBC and CNN… Dems really really really want the Epstein kerfuffle to fracture the MAGA coalition. They’re grasping at straws; it’s almost amusing how they see almost any development as a sign of MAGA doom. The left is just as good at wishcasting as we sometimes are
They also delight in saying “Putin duped Trump!”… but I thought they were colluding so which is it?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 08:03 AM (ANuwa)
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Only in the mind of a psychotic Leftist impersonating a wise elder could the Left's behavior over the last decade and especially the last six months be viewed as the "fetal position." But this just sounds like the latest iteration of "they bring a knife, you bring a gun."
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Exactly. They've hardly been resting on their laurels. They've done everything in their power to fight back. They even tried to kill Trump to take him out! Out of control judges ruling outside their jurisdictions, rocks, bottles and other weapons hurled at ICE agents, the daily MSM pile-on of lies. It's a constant barrage of deviant behavior. I guess Barky the Dog Eater wants the blood to start literally flowing.
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Exactly. They've hardly been resting on their laurels. They've done everything in their power to fight back. They even tried to kill Trump to take him out! Out of control judges ruling outside their jurisdictions, rocks, bottles and other weapons hurled at ICE agents, the daily MSM pile-on of lies. It's a constant barrage of deviant behavior. I guess Barky the Dog Eater wants the blood to start literally flowing.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:03 AM (qBdHI)
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China’s dual-carrier deployment shows Beijing is all-in on sea power—just as Washington debates gutting the very tool that has kept the Pacific in check for 80 years.
Submarines are cheaper than carriers and can sink them just as well.
Submarines are cheaper than carriers and can sink them just as well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:04 AM (ExV1e)
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The Conditions at Alligator Alcatraz are Breakin’ My Heart!
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I'm a bit too old to be sure, but I think my younger siblings used to watch a cartoon about an alligator. Probably one of the many Hanna Barbara lot.
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I'm a bit too old to be sure, but I think my younger siblings used to watch a cartoon about an alligator. Probably one of the many Hanna Barbara lot.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2025 08:04 AM (od0dV)
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We are all John Galt!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 08:04 AM (dKEEs)
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I guess Barky the Dog Eater wants the blood to start literally flowing.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:03 AM (qBdHI)
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He's just snippy because if Big Mike leaves he'll have to find another beard.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:03 AM (qBdHI)
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He's just snippy because if Big Mike leaves he'll have to find another beard.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 15, 2025 08:05 AM (dDmld)
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28 As if France wasn't struggling enough with its own dying cultural identity, here come the waves of "Palestinians," the group nobody wants in their countries because they are that bad. Good-bye, France.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 07:58 AM (qBdHI)
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Gatestone Institute published a piece late last week about this issue and it's really worth the read. Stupid French. . . .it's always the feckless, stupid, worthless French. Even after we rebuilt their wrecked roads after WW2.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 07:58 AM (qBdHI)
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Gatestone Institute published a piece late last week about this issue and it's really worth the read. Stupid French. . . .it's always the feckless, stupid, worthless French. Even after we rebuilt their wrecked roads after WW2.
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards and Professional Blacks at July 15, 2025 08:05 AM (HeR4S)
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I see that John MacArthur has died. I don't know if I should be sad. Sad for us, glad for him I guess. He ran the good race, fought the good fight.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:55 AM (SfhV1)
I will be forever grateful to that man for giving me a place to attend church in 2020-21. While my church (and all others as far as I could tell) wimped out and closed their doors over the sniffles, he opened his church and insisted on keeping it open despite constant harassment from Gavin Newsom and LA County. That good man has entered his rest and is with his Lord
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:55 AM (SfhV1)
I will be forever grateful to that man for giving me a place to attend church in 2020-21. While my church (and all others as far as I could tell) wimped out and closed their doors over the sniffles, he opened his church and insisted on keeping it open despite constant harassment from Gavin Newsom and LA County. That good man has entered his rest and is with his Lord
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 08:07 AM (ANuwa)
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I hope that man meets his idol Allah soon.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 08:07 AM (Qr870)
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I'm a bit too old to be sure, but I think my younger siblings used to watch a cartoon about an alligator. Probably one of the many Hanna Barbara lot.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2025 08:04 AM (od0dV)
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Wally Gator was the greatest alligator in the swamp!
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2025 08:04 AM (od0dV)
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Wally Gator was the greatest alligator in the swamp!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 15, 2025 08:07 AM (dDmld)
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See you later, Wally Gator!
Posted by: Hanna-Barbera at July 15, 2025 08:07 AM (G5+As)
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 08:08 AM (Qr870)
50
Sid always seems to directly address JJ. I think he is showing definite signs of being...let's just say attracted to our Morning Report host.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:09 AM (qBdHI)
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Barky is too fey to be a lout. He's a slap fighter, not Stanley Kowalski.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:56 AM (xG4kz)
I wanted to link a video to an old comedy slap fight in response to that but the existence of the "slap fight" league makes them impossible to find.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:56 AM (xG4kz)
I wanted to link a video to an old comedy slap fight in response to that but the existence of the "slap fight" league makes them impossible to find.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:09 AM (ExV1e)
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Yes....I like it.in the ass, and I am not embarrassed to admit.it.
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 15, 2025 08:09 AM (7Nj4q)
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 08:10 AM (Qr870)
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While my church (and all others as far as I could tell) wimped out and closed their doors over the sniffles, he opened his church and insisted on keeping it open despite constant harassment
Sadly, he was harassed by not just lefties.
Sadly, he was harassed by not just lefties.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 08:10 AM (SfhV1)
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I think Tucker Carlson just showed up.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 15, 2025 08:10 AM (dDmld)
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let's just say attracted to our Morning Report host.
He's trying to get a picture of JJ so he has something to put on his shame-encrusted body pillow.
He's trying to get a picture of JJ so he has something to put on his shame-encrusted body pillow.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 08:10 AM (NR6c1)
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Judge rules all Palestinians living in Gaza are eligible for asylum in France
A Terrorist In Paris
Three terrorist struggle to find bomb making materials in Paris. Things become more complicated when two of them desire to bomb the same train.
A Terrorist In Paris
Three terrorist struggle to find bomb making materials in Paris. Things become more complicated when two of them desire to bomb the same train.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:10 AM (gbOdA)
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Would-Be Child Kidnapper Walks Free In Colorado Due To ‘Mental Incompetence’
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I understand why you don't punish this guy. I don't get why you let him go. Why not lifetime in a mental institution? (Preferably not Congress, though he'd likely be better than the Squad members.)
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I understand why you don't punish this guy. I don't get why you let him go. Why not lifetime in a mental institution? (Preferably not Congress, though he'd likely be better than the Squad members.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2025 08:11 AM (od0dV)
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Hey ali, don't you have a teenage Jewish girl to turn in to Hamas? That attic isn't going to search itself.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 08:11 AM (Qr870)
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Would-Be Child Kidnapper Walks Free In Colorado Due To ‘Mental Incompetence’
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I saw his picture yesterday. It's the stuff of nightmares. He will harm or kill a child in the future. Mark my words.
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I saw his picture yesterday. It's the stuff of nightmares. He will harm or kill a child in the future. Mark my words.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:12 AM (qBdHI)
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Morn' all... Any of you getting yesterday's "art" above this thread ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 08:12 AM (VE6XX)
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"Judge rules all Palestinians living in Gaza are eligible for asylum in France."
I guess Candace Owens should be thrilled about this. Right?
I guess Candace Owens should be thrilled about this. Right?
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:13 AM (NpAcC)
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Why not lifetime in a mental institution?
Because Our Moral Betters™ decided that such a thing was too horrid.
Because Our Moral Betters™ decided that such a thing was too horrid.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 08:13 AM (NR6c1)
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College Professors Launch Mutiny Against University That Followed Trump’s Orders
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My alma mater. F*** them.
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My alma mater. F*** them.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2025 08:13 AM (od0dV)
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>Did Obama or Biden ever nominate an actual American to be a district court judge?
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sure
their picks only had to swear fealty to leftist ideology
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sure
their picks only had to swear fealty to leftist ideology
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:13 AM (AOsQT)
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Eris! Did you see the new Superman movie yet ??
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 08:13 AM (g47mK)
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So the Gazans are coneheads now?
Posted by: Old SNL reference at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (XQo4F)
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Obola proves again that he's just a petulant crybaby. His only skill is community organizing. Oh, and the fudge plunge.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (P0m9n)
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Since when do we give credence to Morning Consult. Could be wrong, but they had Harris up the whole 2024 election
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (YCxFk)
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The homepage is confusing me lately. Yesterday there was the blank page thing. Now yesterday's art thread is at the top.
I have to stop sniffing glue or something.
I have to stop sniffing glue or something.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (+OnsA)
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Yesterday's art is there in all its glory.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (Y5C3T)
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Yesterday's art thread has reared its ugly head
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:15 AM (AOsQT)
73
52. Well said. And Israel is full out Gay Marriage
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:15 AM (YCxFk)
74
The society of the world views death as a horrible thing.
The society of the church views death as a wonderful thing. The end of the race and the beginning of new life in paradise.
The society of the church views death as a wonderful thing. The end of the race and the beginning of new life in paradise.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 15, 2025 08:15 AM (3Rpkk)
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https://www.slapkirk.com/play
Posted by: doug at July 15, 2025 08:15 AM (Hy+R4)
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And, now flushed.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 15, 2025 08:15 AM (Y5C3T)
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I saw his picture yesterday. It's the stuff of nightmares. He will harm or kill a child in the future. Mark my words.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:12 AM (qBdHI)
I saw online where the "judge" that dismissed the charges against this freak due to him being crazy is also of the homosexual trans sodomite brigade and probably wants to hook up with the guy.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:12 AM (qBdHI)
I saw online where the "judge" that dismissed the charges against this freak due to him being crazy is also of the homosexual trans sodomite brigade and probably wants to hook up with the guy.
Posted by: Make Homosexual Judges Illegal Too at July 15, 2025 08:15 AM (r/wv3)
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It isn't only France, Germany at least in the bigger cities looks to be around 10%muslim. Maybe more.
They appear to be fine with that situation, they voted to get it good and hard and I guess they'll get what they voted for.
BONUS! Woke propaganda is everywhere. Ads, posters, programs, news. The people as a group seem fine yet every day they're stewing in this toxic broth.
This is what the Democrats want , so let's be sure to deny it to them
They appear to be fine with that situation, they voted to get it good and hard and I guess they'll get what they voted for.
BONUS! Woke propaganda is everywhere. Ads, posters, programs, news. The people as a group seem fine yet every day they're stewing in this toxic broth.
This is what the Democrats want , so let's be sure to deny it to them
Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2025 08:16 AM (1R0Vg)
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Is anyone having trouble logging into X? I keep getting the 'sorry, try again later' screen
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:16 AM (AOsQT)
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They're not married.
Posted by: No matter what they think at July 15, 2025 08:16 AM (XQo4F)
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The homepage is confusing me lately. Yesterday there was the blank page thing. Now yesterday's art thread is at the top.
I have to stop sniffing glue or something.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (+OnsA)
Clear out your browser's cache. Delete all history.
I have to stop sniffing glue or something.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (+OnsA)
Clear out your browser's cache. Delete all history.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 15, 2025 08:16 AM (5xuJ/)
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We did get a Appeals court judge confirmed last night. 6th circuit which covers Mich, Ohio, Tenn and Ky. Was a flip since the Obama Judge retired
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:17 AM (YCxFk)
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His only skill is community organizing...
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (P0m9n)
From what I understand, he was even bad at that.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (P0m9n)
From what I understand, he was even bad at that.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 08:17 AM (WHfpM)
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Has Trump been blamed for the fires in the Grand Canyon?
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 08:18 AM (Oy/m2)
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Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:15 AM (YCxFk)
So is the United States.
And don't respond to trolls.
So is the United States.
And don't respond to trolls.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 08:19 AM (EcqGt)
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"Hamas Atrocities" posted on X: List things Muslims invented! Wrong answers only!
Ib1netmon replied:
Muslims invented the condom, using the intestines of a goat. Western societies improved it somewhat by removing the intestines from the goat first.
https://tinyurl.com/2j8fnv5t
Ib1netmon replied:
Muslims invented the condom, using the intestines of a goat. Western societies improved it somewhat by removing the intestines from the goat first.
https://tinyurl.com/2j8fnv5t
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 15, 2025 08:19 AM (paSBy)
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Has Trump been blamed for the fires in the Grand Canyon?
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 08:18 AM (Oy/m2)
I heard he dumped all the water on central Texas and that's why the fire started.
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 08:18 AM (Oy/m2)
I heard he dumped all the water on central Texas and that's why the fire started.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:20 AM (ExV1e)
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Is anyone having trouble logging into X? I keep getting the 'sorry, try again later' screen
Posted by: Don Black
Nope, I'm good.
Posted by: Don Black
Nope, I'm good.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 15, 2025 08:20 AM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Eric Arthur Blair at July 15, 2025 08:20 AM (XQo4F)
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Sid always seems to directly address JJ. I think he is showing definite signs of being...let's just say attracted to our Morning Report host.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:09 AM (qBdHI)
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Is it any wonder? Sefton is a stone fox!
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:09 AM (qBdHI)
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Is it any wonder? Sefton is a stone fox!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2025 08:20 AM (kpS4V)
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If Harris was president, no doubt she'd be waving in asylum seekers from "Palestine" by the truckloads too.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:21 AM (qBdHI)
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Why Is Massachusetts Releasing First-Degree Murderers?
Because Massachusetts is asshoe. This is known.
Because Massachusetts is asshoe. This is known.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 08:22 AM (kgE5c)
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:22 AM (AOsQT)
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Today is National Tapioca Pudding Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:23 AM (NpAcC)
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JJ has ...attributes that attract trolls ???
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 08:23 AM (g47mK)
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Good morning!
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 08:23 AM (TwZXH)
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Obama telling anyone to get tough is fricking hilarious. It’d make more sense coming from Big Mike.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 08:23 AM (QZThv)
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85. Point taken
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:23 AM (YCxFk)
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His only skill is community organizing...
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (P0m9n)
From what I understand, he was even bad at that.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 08:17 AM (WHfpM)
Obama's only skill was being black, and he's not even very good at that.
He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 08:14 AM (P0m9n)
From what I understand, he was even bad at that.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 08:17 AM (WHfpM)
Obama's only skill was being black, and he's not even very good at that.
He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin.
Posted by: Ghetto Joe at July 15, 2025 08:24 AM (r/wv3)
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Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear says he'll 'take a look' at running for president. “I would have never considered this a couple years ago, but I will not leave a broken country to my kids or to anyone else’s..."
He better look hard! I don't even live in Kentucky but he got me through the pandemic watching his daily briefings. I’m a huge fan and even have a “Y’all Can’t Be Doing That” mask
He's saying all the right things here, and he's been GREAT for Kentucky. I get emails every day from his office about some new company that's moving to KY...He's the most popular Dem governor in the country. I have seen clips of him being righteously fired up. He's personable, compassionate, and not bad looking. He can do this.
Red states that vote in a Democrat as governor while leaving the rest of the State govt Republican are idiots. Like the voters in Kentucky.
Georgia is gerrymandered as hell. Republicans have a much tougher time in statewide elections. Like in NC.
Very solid choice. How about Eric Swallwell as VP?
No! He can't win. And we don't need more centrist Dems. He needs to run for Mitch's senate seat. And, I think he would prevail.
He better look hard! I don't even live in Kentucky but he got me through the pandemic watching his daily briefings. I’m a huge fan and even have a “Y’all Can’t Be Doing That” mask
He's saying all the right things here, and he's been GREAT for Kentucky. I get emails every day from his office about some new company that's moving to KY...He's the most popular Dem governor in the country. I have seen clips of him being righteously fired up. He's personable, compassionate, and not bad looking. He can do this.
Red states that vote in a Democrat as governor while leaving the rest of the State govt Republican are idiots. Like the voters in Kentucky.
Georgia is gerrymandered as hell. Republicans have a much tougher time in statewide elections. Like in NC.
Very solid choice. How about Eric Swallwell as VP?
No! He can't win. And we don't need more centrist Dems. He needs to run for Mitch's senate seat. And, I think he would prevail.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 15, 2025 08:24 AM (ycI94)
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Is anyone having trouble logging into X? I keep getting the 'sorry, try again later' screen
Posted by: Don Black
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Yeah, I get that sometimes. It usually fixes itself after a few minutes, though.
Posted by: Don Black
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Yeah, I get that sometimes. It usually fixes itself after a few minutes, though.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 15, 2025 08:24 AM (paSBy)
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Today is National Tapioca Pudding Day.
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Florence Jean Casselberry from "Alice" would say it's National Fish Eyes and Glue Day.
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Florence Jean Casselberry from "Alice" would say it's National Fish Eyes and Glue Day.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:24 AM (qBdHI)
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the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians has taken $28 million in federal grant funding since 1996 while operating one of the largest casinos in the country. The bulk of the money, roughly $27 million, has come since 2008, six years after the casino opened.
Pechanga people, Pechanga tribe
So proud to grift, so proud to lie
Pechanga people, Pechanga tribe
So proud to grift, so proud to lie
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:25 AM (gbOdA)
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I'm afraid defunding Planned Parenthood could cost us seats in the midterms in swing states.
I know they kill babies, but right now a Republican majority in the HoR is more important than millions of innocent lives.
Couldn't we maybe propose an increase in funding to Planned Parenthood and then reject that, cutting proposed spending to its current levels and send all of our Pro-Life supporters a mailer saying we cut Planned Parenthood funding by 50%?
I know they kill babies, but right now a Republican majority in the HoR is more important than millions of innocent lives.
Couldn't we maybe propose an increase in funding to Planned Parenthood and then reject that, cutting proposed spending to its current levels and send all of our Pro-Life supporters a mailer saying we cut Planned Parenthood funding by 50%?
Posted by: Brilliant Conservative Commentor at July 15, 2025 08:25 AM (x94on)
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Eris! Did you see the new Superman movie yet ??
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 08:13 AM (g47mK)
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Yes. Enjoyed it, despite some Gunnian bs.
One could charitably interpret Supe's allegiance to "Truth, justice, and the human way" as a repudiation of his Kryptonian parentage and him fully embracing his solid Midwestern upbringing. Lex kept harping on Superman being a filthy alien.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 08:13 AM (g47mK)
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Yes. Enjoyed it, despite some Gunnian bs.
One could charitably interpret Supe's allegiance to "Truth, justice, and the human way" as a repudiation of his Kryptonian parentage and him fully embracing his solid Midwestern upbringing. Lex kept harping on Superman being a filthy alien.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2025 08:25 AM (kpS4V)
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The Fall of Europe will begin, when one of the Western Countries allows a non native Muslim to be a Prime Minister or Prez. That is when the game starts. Khan in London is only a Mayor
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:25 AM (YCxFk)
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*He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin*
All while wearing his mom jeans.
All while wearing his mom jeans.
Posted by: B.O. The Badass at July 15, 2025 08:26 AM (XQo4F)
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good morning JJ, Horde
Posted by: callsign claymore at July 15, 2025 08:26 AM (OHZjs)
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‘ It is high time for President of the United States of America Donald J. Trump to finally drive a stake through the heart of Marbury v. Madison and unilaterally declare this hack's actions illegal, irrelevant, null and void,’
Why? Trump is winning all the cases. He’ll win this one too. You don’t drop a nuke unless you have to.
Why? Trump is winning all the cases. He’ll win this one too. You don’t drop a nuke unless you have to.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 15, 2025 08:26 AM (lWAZp)
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Obama's only skill was being black, and he's not even very good at that.
He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin.
Posted by: Ghetto Joe at July 15, 2025 08:24 AM (r/wv3)
HAAAFFFLLLBBBLLLAAACCCKKKKK
He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin.
Posted by: Ghetto Joe at July 15, 2025 08:24 AM (r/wv3)
HAAAFFFLLLBBBLLLAAACCCKKKKK
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:26 AM (gbOdA)
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102. Flo was the Best. Mel Sharples was hysterical
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:26 AM (YCxFk)
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De-lurking to say hello and happy birthday J.J.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (fveCG)
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103 There's only 1800 tribal members. It's stuff right out of a TV script.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (gm9Sb)
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>Yeah, I get that sometimes. It usually fixes itself after a few minutes, though.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
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I really enjoy X- saying rude things to misguided public figures amuses me
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
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I really enjoy X- saying rude things to misguided public figures amuses me
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (AOsQT)
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (Oy/m2)
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73 52. Well said. And Israel is full out Gay Marriage
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Jesus Christ won't return because the world has become righteous. He will come again to redeem a fallen world.
i.e., Noah
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Jesus Christ won't return because the world has become righteous. He will come again to redeem a fallen world.
i.e., Noah
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (P0m9n)
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it hates me then
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:22 AM (AOsQT)
Just add the word cancel after x. Always
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:22 AM (AOsQT)
Just add the word cancel after x. Always
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (Qr870)
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Obama's only skill was being black, and he's not even very good at that.
He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin.
You misspelled “bro chasin”.
He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin.
You misspelled “bro chasin”.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (QZThv)
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90 Sid always seems to directly address JJ. I think he is showing definite signs of being...let's just say attracted to our Morning Report host.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:09 AM (qBdHI)
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Is it any wonder? Sefton is a stone fox!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2025 08:20 AM (kpS4V)
I imagine J.J.'s hair is greying at the temples and he's wearing a cardigan.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 08:09 AM (qBdHI)
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Is it any wonder? Sefton is a stone fox!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2025 08:20 AM (kpS4V)
I imagine J.J.'s hair is greying at the temples and he's wearing a cardigan.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (kTd/k)
120
What happened?
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 08:28 AM (SfhV1)
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Is it any wonder? Sefton is a stone fox!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
I always picture a 1970 Stanley Myron Handelman.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
I always picture a 1970 Stanley Myron Handelman.
Posted by: Vivid Imagination at July 15, 2025 08:28 AM (G5+As)
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Comments centered?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:28 AM (+OnsA)
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Today is National Tapioca Pudding Day.
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Aw crap! I was really looking forward to that, and now I've missed it.
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Aw crap! I was really looking forward to that, and now I've missed it.
Posted by: Joe Biden at July 15, 2025 08:28 AM (paSBy)
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What just happened?
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:28 AM (NpAcC)
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Obama was the original Shit Midas. He is the Shit Sotomayer to Biden's Jackson. Eventually someone was going to try to plug the power void. Clintons are unusually quiet.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 15, 2025 08:28 AM (jPdyB)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:28 AM (+OnsA)
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“This is a nightmare scenario for the Dems right now,” the anonymous strategist told the outlet. “We better pray long and hard that the country is going to be in a fucking depression because I don’t know how else we find ourselves out of this mess.”
Sounds like the same (D) party in 1860 praying for a war to make things better.
Sounds like the same (D) party in 1860 praying for a war to make things better.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:28 AM (gbOdA)
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104. Nah. The abortion topic was in the 2022 midterms, after Roe. Abortion was not really an issue in 2024.
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:29 AM (YCxFk)
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Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.
Good morning, Horde.
Posted by: Inogame at July 15, 2025 08:29 AM (53oGX)
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"France’s top asylum court has ruled that all 'Palestinians' living in Gaza are now eligible to apply for full refugee status, overturning a previous decision."
France - working overtime to realize the British insult "the wogs begin at Calais".
France - working overtime to realize the British insult "the wogs begin at Calais".
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 08:29 AM (kgE5c)
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So "there is no Epstein list" and Obama pops up?
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 15, 2025 08:29 AM (jPdyB)
132
Somewhere in the bowels of AoSHQ Ops there's someone saying "here, let's mess with the Horde some more! Watch THIS!"
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:29 AM (+OnsA)
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Clintons are unusually quiet.
They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (QZThv)
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Having been to Disneyland many times with our kids during their younger years, I would make this observation: The secret service must’ve been sweating bullets that day; that place is a security nightmare. The Vance’s would’ve been shoulder to shoulder with complete strangers the entire day…. A very unpredictable uncontrollable environment
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (ANuwa)
135
Kal-El to Lex, "if you can create your own Phantom Zone to rule, why conquer Earth?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (fFOKU)
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Yes. Enjoyed it, despite some Gunnian bs.
One could charitably interpret Supe's allegiance to "Truth, justice, and the human way" as a repudiation of his Kryptonian parentage and him fully embracing his solid Midwestern upbringing. Lex kept harping on Superman being a filthy alien.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2025 08:25 AM (kpS4V)
hmmm , more lecturing
One could charitably interpret Supe's allegiance to "Truth, justice, and the human way" as a repudiation of his Kryptonian parentage and him fully embracing his solid Midwestern upbringing. Lex kept harping on Superman being a filthy alien.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2025 08:25 AM (kpS4V)
hmmm , more lecturing
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (g47mK)
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When I was a little kid, my much-older brother taught me a new card game. Turns out he was making it up on the fly based on the cards he drew. Reminds me of Marbury v. Madison.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (fveCG)
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'Sup Anna Puma!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (kpS4V)
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Somewhere in the bowels of AoSHQ Ops there's someone saying "here, let's mess with the Horde some more! Watch THIS!"
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:29 AM
*sniggers*
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:29 AM
*sniggers*
Posted by: The Pixy Hamsters at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (kgE5c)
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Stacey Abrams is the Jesse Jackson of Al Sharptons
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (uxAXv)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (fFOKU)
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113 103 There's only 1800 tribal members. It's stuff right out of a TV script.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (gm9Sb)
28 gazillion divided by 1800 is a shit ton o money.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 08:27 AM (gm9Sb)
28 gazillion divided by 1800 is a shit ton o money.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (gbOdA)
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I feel very centered this morning.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (3Rpkk)
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Obama's only skill was being black, and he's not even very good at that.
He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin.
Posted by: Ghetto Joe at July 15, 2025 08:24 AM (r/wv3)
HAAAFFFLLLBBBLLLAAACCCKKKKK
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:26 AM (gbOdA)
He do dance like Carlton.
He should wear some gold chains, maybe get a grillz and bust a fro while rappin some tasty rhymes for his peeps while crusin in his hooptie while ho chasin.
Posted by: Ghetto Joe at July 15, 2025 08:24 AM (r/wv3)
HAAAFFFLLLBBBLLLAAACCCKKKKK
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:26 AM (gbOdA)
He do dance like Carlton.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (wVcYX)
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RNC needs to start nibbling on Bashear of KY. He is pro late term abortion etc..
The guy is very left, but has been helped by a veto proof GOP legislature keeping him in check
The guy is very left, but has been helped by a veto proof GOP legislature keeping him in check
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (YCxFk)
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It's gonna be funny when the Muslims actually wind up getting nukes by controlling a European country.
Posted by: Life Comes At You Fast at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (x94on)
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I’m a huge fan and even have a “Y’all Can’t Be Doing That” mask
As Grandfather Poppins once opined, just because you say something in a Southern accent doesn't make it any less stupid.
As Grandfather Poppins once opined, just because you say something in a Southern accent doesn't make it any less stupid.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (Dg2sF)
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140 Stacey Abrams is the Jesse Jackson of Al Sharptons
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (uxAXv)
Well, paint my face with feces and call me Tawana!!!!!!!
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (uxAXv)
Well, paint my face with feces and call me Tawana!!!!!!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (x0n13)
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133 Quiet. . . . as in not breathing? (could only wish)
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards and Professional Blacks at July 15, 2025 08:32 AM (HeR4S)
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A very unpredictable uncontrollable environment
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (ANuwa)
Daddy
Why is Alice in Wonderland 6'5" with a mustache and carrying a Ingram Sub?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (ANuwa)
Daddy
Why is Alice in Wonderland 6'5" with a mustache and carrying a Ingram Sub?
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:33 AM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:33 AM (fFOKU)
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As Grandfather Poppins once opined, just because you say something in a Southern accent doesn't make it any less stupid.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM
The same holds true for the British RP accent. Congratulations, Beeb...you just sound like cultured idiots. Bravo.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM
The same holds true for the British RP accent. Congratulations, Beeb...you just sound like cultured idiots. Bravo.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (kgE5c)
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JJ is lying about feeling sorry for the alligators.
But he's funny for doing so.
Alligators got to eat too.
But he's funny for doing so.
Alligators got to eat too.
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (DoOmQ)
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133 Clintons are unusually quiet.
They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S.
Chelsea, like her mom, but with less charm and likeability.
They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S.
Chelsea, like her mom, but with less charm and likeability.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (Dv3i1)
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"We better pray long and hard that the country is going to be in a fucking depression because I don't know how else we find ourselves out of this mess."
The pluperfect Democrat. Not "a good economy gives us the chance to explain to people why we would be better stewards of public money," but "the only way we get those fucking rubes to vote for us is if they're starving and miserable."
The pluperfect Democrat. Not "a good economy gives us the chance to explain to people why we would be better stewards of public money," but "the only way we get those fucking rubes to vote for us is if they're starving and miserable."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (Dg2sF)
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Another day and the Odildo, the Oblamer, the Chicago Thug in Chief, has mouthed off again. Yep, another day.
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards and Professional Blacks at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (HeR4S)
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It's gonna be funny when the Muslims actually wind up getting nukes by controlling a European country.
Also funny: They’re hollowing out the Democrat Party and nobody in charge seems to recognize it.
Also funny: They’re hollowing out the Democrat Party and nobody in charge seems to recognize it.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (QZThv)
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Well, paint my face with feces and call me Tawana!!!!!!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM
Kinky....
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM
Kinky....
Posted by: Barack at July 15, 2025 08:35 AM (kgE5c)
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142 I have some friends over in OK. The husband has some Indian blood (most of OK seems to be in the same boat). We file some papers, he becomes Chief, put his wife in as treasurer and rent a pole barn with a craps table and a few slots. Also,being OK, a weed dispensary. It can only grow.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 08:35 AM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:35 AM (fFOKU)
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The mored Dems attack Vance & family in public, the greater hus chances of becoming 48
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 08:35 AM (GhIJO)
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Mornin’, All. Happy Tuesday.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 08:36 AM (77rzZ)
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Bashear is a "lite" version of Newsom. He's as left as it gets. But hides it until it's time to use it. Fairly draconian covid mandates in the state. Plays politics with natural disasters, depending on the area and voting inclinations. Pro crime, pro illegals, pro ghettos. Anti police. Anti gun.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 08:36 AM (Q4IgG)
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The pluperfect Democrat. Not "a good economy gives us the chance to explain to people why we would be better stewards of public money," but "the only way we get those fucking rubes to vote for us is if they're starving and miserable."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM
Da. Is correct way, comrade.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM
Da. Is correct way, comrade.
Posted by: V.I. Lenin at July 15, 2025 08:36 AM (kgE5c)
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154 133 Clintons are unusually quiet.
They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S.
Chelsea, like her mom, but with less charm and likeability.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (Dv3i1)
Yeah, good luck with that. Chelsea didn't marry up properly.
They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S.
Chelsea, like her mom, but with less charm and likeability.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (Dv3i1)
Yeah, good luck with that. Chelsea didn't marry up properly.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:36 AM (+OnsA)
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JJ has ...attributes that attract trolls ???
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 08:23 AM (g47mK)
Trolls live under bridges and JJ weighs the same as a duck.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 08:23 AM (g47mK)
Trolls live under bridges and JJ weighs the same as a duck.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:36 AM (ExV1e)
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The plan outlines a railway of about 4,500 kilometres (roughly 2,800 miles), running from Ilhéus in the northern Brazilian state of Bahia to Rio Branco in the northwestern state of Acre, before crossing the Andes towards the Peruvian coast.
Some estimates put the cost of proposed project at upwards of US$70 billion.
About the same as the Cali Rail Line to connect 2 Greyhound stations about 112 miles apart.
Some estimates put the cost of proposed project at upwards of US$70 billion.
About the same as the Cali Rail Line to connect 2 Greyhound stations about 112 miles apart.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:37 AM (gbOdA)
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Clintons are unusually quiet.
They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S.
Chelsea, like her mom, but with less charm and likeability.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (Dv3i1)
Yeah, good luck with that. Chelsea didn't marry up properly.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:36 AM
Somewhere out there, is a district stupid enough to treat her the way MA used to treat Kennedys.
They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S.
Chelsea, like her mom, but with less charm and likeability.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:34 AM (Dv3i1)
Yeah, good luck with that. Chelsea didn't marry up properly.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:36 AM
Somewhere out there, is a district stupid enough to treat her the way MA used to treat Kennedys.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 08:38 AM (kgE5c)
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How do you know she's a witch?
Posted by: Monty Python at July 15, 2025 08:38 AM (XQo4F)
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103 the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians has taken $28 million in federal grant funding since 1996 while operating one of the largest casinos in the country. The bulk of the money, roughly $27 million, has come since 2008, six years after the casino opened.
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Defund Indian Affairs next. Let the Indians be free of govt meddling.
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Defund Indian Affairs next. Let the Indians be free of govt meddling.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (Dv3i1)
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They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (QZThv)
Murder and Graft?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (QZThv)
Murder and Graft?
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (gbOdA)
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Is Tawana still claiming to be Muslim and refusing to pay off the defamation?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (fFOKU)
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161 Last night on Gutfeld somebody summed up why JD would shred Newsome in debates. JD has an Einstein brain in a redneck body.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (gm9Sb)
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> I have some friends over in OK. The husband has some Indian blood
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and the Indian wants it back!
ba DUM tisss
Thanks, you're a great crowd
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and the Indian wants it back!
ba DUM tisss
Thanks, you're a great crowd
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (AOsQT)
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Why is Vance visiting Disneyland and putting money in that evil corporation’s pocket?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 08:40 AM (77rzZ)
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175. To piss off Damien Newsome
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:40 AM (YCxFk)
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Bubba and Hillary couldn't arrange for Chelsea to marry a Kennedy.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:40 AM (fFOKU)
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They’re allegedly gearing up for Chelsea to carry on the family business.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (QZThv)
I assume she spends her days strangling puppies so she can develop the right mindset.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 08:30 AM (QZThv)
I assume she spends her days strangling puppies so she can develop the right mindset.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:41 AM (ExV1e)
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157 It's gonna be funny when the Muslims actually wind up getting nukes by controlling a European country.
Also funny: They’re hollowing out the Democrat Party and nobody in charge seems to recognize it.
Posted by: Ian S.
Minneapolis and New York, formerly great cities, could easily elect muslim mayors next election.
Also funny: They’re hollowing out the Democrat Party and nobody in charge seems to recognize it.
Posted by: Ian S.
Minneapolis and New York, formerly great cities, could easily elect muslim mayors next election.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:41 AM (Dv3i1)
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I'm glad I missed yesterday's art thread.
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 08:42 AM (Oy/m2)
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165. Right. Chelsea's father in law a former Congressman who went to jail
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 08:42 AM (YCxFk)
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178 Killin' me. . . . absolutely killin' me. Props.
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards and Professional Blacks at July 15, 2025 08:42 AM (HeR4S)
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Rancid Tilapia or Ilham Nur for Mayor?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:42 AM (fFOKU)
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You think you're tough for eating beans every day? There's half a million scarecrows in Denver who'd give anything for one mouthful of what you got. They've been under siege for about three months. They live on rats and sawdust bread and sometimes... on each other. At night, the pyres for the dead light up the sky. It's medieval.
(D) Party Leaders:
We will have them votin (D) for the next 100 years.
(D) Party Leaders:
We will have them votin (D) for the next 100 years.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:42 AM (gbOdA)
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Defund Indian Affairs next. Let the Indians be free of govt meddling.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (Dv3i1)
Absolutely, that $28 million they've been given over the last 30 years could have been sent to Israel or Ukraine.
We must get our priorities straight!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (Dv3i1)
Absolutely, that $28 million they've been given over the last 30 years could have been sent to Israel or Ukraine.
We must get our priorities straight!
Posted by: Military Industrial Complex at July 15, 2025 08:43 AM (x94on)
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You talking about my daughter?
Posted by: Web Hubbell at July 15, 2025 08:43 AM (XQo4F)
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155, innit the truth, MP4?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 08:43 AM (dKEEs)
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Minneapolis and New York, formerly great cities, could easily elect muslim mayors next election.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:41 AM (Dv3i1)
Gazaopolis and New Gaza
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:41 AM (Dv3i1)
Gazaopolis and New Gaza
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:44 AM (gbOdA)
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It's gonna be funny when the Muslims actually wind up getting nukes by controlling a European country.
Posted by: Life Comes At You Fast at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (x94on)
Pakistan is a muslim country with nukes. Supposedly, the US 'shared' 20 nukes with Turkey as well.
Posted by: Life Comes At You Fast at July 15, 2025 08:31 AM (x94on)
Pakistan is a muslim country with nukes. Supposedly, the US 'shared' 20 nukes with Turkey as well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:44 AM (ExV1e)
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Remember that DeSantis and Newsome had a debate, and DeSantis shredded him like tissue paper.
Vance is an even better debater than DeSantis is.
Vance is an even better debater than DeSantis is.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 08:44 AM (YQdCi)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:45 AM (fFOKU)
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Observations:
- Muslims are infiltrating European governments.
- Muslims are infiltrating North American governments.
Axiom: He who makes the rules... wins.
- Muslims are infiltrating European governments.
- Muslims are infiltrating North American governments.
Axiom: He who makes the rules... wins.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 08:45 AM (Q4IgG)
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Do I click on this video link to the "Top 10 Chinese Female Humanoid Robots in 2025!"
Nyah?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:45 AM (fFOKU)
Don't do it, don't do it, NOOOOOOO! Come BAAAAAAACK!!
Nyah?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:45 AM (fFOKU)
Don't do it, don't do it, NOOOOOOO! Come BAAAAAAACK!!
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:46 AM (+OnsA)
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I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0
German police have begun enforcing extreme new measures to tackle the surge in crime.
When officers board a bus or subway car, all passengers are required to raise their hands and keep them raised.
Anyone who fails to comply or lowers their hands is immediately deemed suspicious—and dealt with accordingly.
https://tinyurl.com/bp778yts
@ImMeme0
German police have begun enforcing extreme new measures to tackle the surge in crime.
When officers board a bus or subway car, all passengers are required to raise their hands and keep them raised.
Anyone who fails to comply or lowers their hands is immediately deemed suspicious—and dealt with accordingly.
https://tinyurl.com/bp778yts
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:46 AM (NpAcC)
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185 I keep the tribe and the MIC happy. I take the money from Washington and buy repeating rifles that I sell to the savages. Also, a couple distilleries get to wet their beak.
Slimy Indian Agent in a B Western
Slimy Indian Agent in a B Western
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 08:46 AM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:46 AM (gbOdA)
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Pakistan is a muslim country with nukes. Supposedly, the US 'shared' 20 nukes with Turkey as well.
I don't believe this.
I've been assured that as soon as a Muslim gets a nuke they will fire it at Israel.
I don't believe this.
I've been assured that as soon as a Muslim gets a nuke they will fire it at Israel.
Posted by: Regular AoS Reader at July 15, 2025 08:47 AM (x94on)
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Withdraw Federal recognition of the Indian tribes, period. They’re American citizens. Drop this “nation” crap. Disestablish the reservations. Enough pandering to the Red Man.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 08:47 AM (77rzZ)
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Maybe this will wake me up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIKOX32aFOk
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:35 AM (fFOKU)
Try this one.
https://youtu.be/6nkBk1KNYD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIKOX32aFOk
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:35 AM (fFOKU)
Try this one.
https://youtu.be/6nkBk1KNYD4
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:47 AM (ExV1e)
200
ImMeme0
German police have begun enforcing extreme new measures to tackle the surge in crime.
When officers board a bus or subway car, all passengers are required to raise their hands and keep them raised.
Anyone who fails to comply or lowers their hands is immediately deemed suspicious—and dealt with accordingly.
==
..how about just one hand, outstretched at a slight upward angle ? no ?? ok....
German police have begun enforcing extreme new measures to tackle the surge in crime.
When officers board a bus or subway car, all passengers are required to raise their hands and keep them raised.
Anyone who fails to comply or lowers their hands is immediately deemed suspicious—and dealt with accordingly.
==
..how about just one hand, outstretched at a slight upward angle ? no ?? ok....
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 08:48 AM (g47mK)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 08:48 AM (U0/BL)
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My take on Barack Obama is that Big Mike knows him better than most. And they seem to think he's a complete dickhead.
So who am I to argue with their assessment.
So who am I to argue with their assessment.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 15, 2025 08:49 AM (Lo97M)
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Why is Vance visiting Disneyland and putting money in that evil corporation’s pocket?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 08:40 AM (77rzZ)
Presumably because he has young children and they find Disneyland fun.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 08:40 AM (77rzZ)
Presumably because he has young children and they find Disneyland fun.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:49 AM (ExV1e)
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Chelsea has zero public appeal. She comes across as a condescending trust fund baby in a time when Libs are scrambling to find positions to the left of Mao. Unless they can wipe her brain and upload Billy Jeff's, I can't see Chelsea making even a small ripple in the Dem cesspool.
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 08:50 AM (5xvZ1)
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It's also...
National Gummi Worm Day.
National Gummi Worm Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:50 AM (NpAcC)
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ICE Barbie raids a Ca pot farm being worked by child slaves. Blondie announces she’s opening investigations into the deep state. And, Shazam Sgt Carter, the inter-webs go crazy with all things Epstein.
Hell of a coincidence.
Who is John Galt ?
Hell of a coincidence.
Who is John Galt ?
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 15, 2025 08:51 AM (xTinh)
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When officers board a bus or subway car, all passengers are required to raise their hands and keep them raised.
Anyone who fails to comply or lowers their hands is immediately deemed suspicious—and dealt with accordingly.
Looks like a great way to encourage more public transportation ridership </sarc;
Anyone who fails to comply or lowers their hands is immediately deemed suspicious—and dealt with accordingly.
Looks like a great way to encourage more public transportation ridership </sarc;
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 15, 2025 08:51 AM (9Hs2w)
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Think they still need to tweak the physics of the animation software.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glzy4hagC2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glzy4hagC2o
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:51 AM (fFOKU)
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Governor Murphy subpeonad about sheltering illegals
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Murphy will do literally anything to be noticed by the press. Frickin' idiot, that guy.
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Murphy will do literally anything to be noticed by the press. Frickin' idiot, that guy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 08:52 AM (U0/BL)
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>Drop this “nation” crap. Disestablish the reservations. Enough pandering to the Red Man.
Posted by: Bulg
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really? c'mon man
Posted by: Bulg
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really? c'mon man
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:52 AM (AOsQT)
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Chelsea has zero public appeal. She comes across as a condescending trust fund baby in a time when Libs are scrambling to find positions to the left of Mao. Unless they can wipe her brain and upload Billy Jeff's, I can't see Chelsea making even a small ripple in the Dem cesspool.
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 08:50 AM (5xvZ1)
Yes.
She's a Wilsonian from a Wilsonian family that now has zero influence in a party that has been taken over by the Woke Jeffersonians (insert band joke here).
Donors aren't going to give money to an org that has low and still waning political influence.
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 08:50 AM (5xvZ1)
Yes.
She's a Wilsonian from a Wilsonian family that now has zero influence in a party that has been taken over by the Woke Jeffersonians (insert band joke here).
Donors aren't going to give money to an org that has low and still waning political influence.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:53 AM (+OnsA)
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After Spanish National Anthem Debacle, Lawmakers Move To Keep ‘The Star Spangled Banner’ In English
'The Star-Spangled Banner is a sacred and unifying tradition,' Sen. Markwayne Mullin told The Daily Wire.
Its better in the original Klingon!
'The Star-Spangled Banner is a sacred and unifying tradition,' Sen. Markwayne Mullin told The Daily Wire.
Its better in the original Klingon!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 08:53 AM (gbOdA)
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photo melange at top is disturbing
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 08:53 AM (AOsQT)
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My late father-in-law met Scopes in the 1950’s, the story of their meeting was quite amusing. Scopes had long since quit teaching, had gone into oil and gas and was an exploration executive at United Gas in Shreveport. By this time he was sick to death of hearing about the trial, and being a large and loud man, he was known for shouting long strings of profanity and even throwing things at anyone who brought it up in his presence.
So my FiL was young, just a few days on the job, he was sent to carry a file up to Mr. Scopes. And his new “good friends” told him “hey you want to get in good with that executive? Ask him about that famous trial he was in, he loves to talk about it.”
So he did. And he left that office dodging a waste paper basket that had been hurled at him, while of course his “friends” were rolling on the ground laughing.
So my FiL was young, just a few days on the job, he was sent to carry a file up to Mr. Scopes. And his new “good friends” told him “hey you want to get in good with that executive? Ask him about that famous trial he was in, he loves to talk about it.”
So he did. And he left that office dodging a waste paper basket that had been hurled at him, while of course his “friends” were rolling on the ground laughing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 08:53 AM (YQdCi)
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I worked on the landscaping of a new reservation in Elko Nevada on the late 70s.
The gruberment built the water tower below the reservation.
If someone flushed the toilet, the sprinklers became unusable.
Windows were already broken out in year old buildings.
The gruberment built the water tower below the reservation.
If someone flushed the toilet, the sprinklers became unusable.
Windows were already broken out in year old buildings.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 15, 2025 08:53 AM (P0m9n)
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Oops, I see we are infected with TuCa trolls again
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 08:53 AM (U0/BL)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 08:54 AM (77rzZ)
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Anyone who fails to comply or lowers their hands is immediately deemed suspicious—and dealt with accordingly.
Ethnic Germans will be beaten unconscious, brown people will be given a knife - if they don't already have one.
Ethnic Germans will be beaten unconscious, brown people will be given a knife - if they don't already have one.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:54 AM (ExV1e)
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Anyone who fails to comply or lowers their hands is immediately deemed suspicious—and dealt with accordingly.
https://tinyurl.com/bp778yts
Posted by: redridinghood
Accordingly? Like actual germans beaten and detained, immigrants set free immediately with a cash bonus?
https://tinyurl.com/bp778yts
Posted by: redridinghood
Accordingly? Like actual germans beaten and detained, immigrants set free immediately with a cash bonus?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:54 AM (Dv3i1)
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210 >Drop this “nation” crap. Disestablish the reservations. Enough pandering to the Red Man.
Posted by: Bulg
Reservations are not doing them any good... The only wealthy Indians are the Casino Indians... The rest of the Tribes suffer from obesity and alcoholism....Of course I'm painting their situation with a wide brush here but at lot of this runs rampant ...
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Posted by: Bulg
Reservations are not doing them any good... The only wealthy Indians are the Casino Indians... The rest of the Tribes suffer from obesity and alcoholism....Of course I'm painting their situation with a wide brush here but at lot of this runs rampant ...
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Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 08:55 AM (VE6XX)
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Trump asked Zelensky about striking Moscow, making Putin ‘feel the pain’: report
https://tinyurl.com/366nfbtw
https://tinyurl.com/366nfbtw
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:55 AM (NpAcC)
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Why is Vance visiting Disneyland and putting money in that evil corporation’s pocket?
Because residing in Babylon DC is far worse. Every now and then it is refreshing to get the kids out of the belly of the beast.
Disneyland has fewer demons.
Because residing in Babylon DC is far worse. Every now and then it is refreshing to get the kids out of the belly of the beast.
Disneyland has fewer demons.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 15, 2025 08:55 AM (9Hs2w)
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Chelsea didn't marry up properly.
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True dat. I think she's a less capable Hunter Biden. She's the Old Faithfull of retarded on Twitter/X. She's inherited all the bad genetics. Medusa could be her cute sister, and she got her mother's un-likability. Besides, she's too white for the Dems. They couldn't make Whitmer work, Nightmare would be Kamal-lite.
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True dat. I think she's a less capable Hunter Biden. She's the Old Faithfull of retarded on Twitter/X. She's inherited all the bad genetics. Medusa could be her cute sister, and she got her mother's un-likability. Besides, she's too white for the Dems. They couldn't make Whitmer work, Nightmare would be Kamal-lite.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 15, 2025 08:56 AM (jPdyB)
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Didn't a 20 year old Syrian just attack others on a German train.
Media, "there are unconfirmed reports of him shouting 'Allahu ackbar!' but he was known to have psychological issues."
Media, "there are unconfirmed reports of him shouting 'Allahu ackbar!' but he was known to have psychological issues."
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (fFOKU)
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Media, "there are unconfirmed reports of him shouting 'Allahu ackbar!' but he was known to have psychological issues."
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (fFOKU)
Don't they all...
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (fFOKU)
Don't they all...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (VE6XX)
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The mission of the Bureau of Indian Affairs needs to switch to encouraging trade deals with India.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (YnIVK)
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When i see "TuCa", i think "Tukhachevsky".
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (KAi1n)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (ExV1e)
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The whole Scopes trial was a set-up publicity stunt to bring tourist $$ to Dayton, Tennessee.
And Inherit the Wind was written as an indictment of…wait for it…McCarthyism.
And Inherit the Wind was written as an indictment of…wait for it…McCarthyism.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 08:58 AM (77rzZ)
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> Trump asked Zelensky about striking Moscow, making Putin ‘feel the pain’: report
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Only if we (or NATO) provides the weapons.
OTOH, Ukraine has a robust, long range drone program and probably could reach Moscow, but the air defenses there would be... formidable.
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Only if we (or NATO) provides the weapons.
OTOH, Ukraine has a robust, long range drone program and probably could reach Moscow, but the air defenses there would be... formidable.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 08:59 AM (Q4IgG)
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Accordingly? Like actual germans beaten and detained, immigrants set free immediately with a cash bonus?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:54 AM (Dv3i1)
******
Extra cash for Muslims.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:54 AM (Dv3i1)
******
Extra cash for Muslims.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:59 AM (NpAcC)
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220 I've driven through reservation grounds on trips to the SW, and it's usually pretty depressing. Mostly a sign of dependence on the government to do everything. Most areas would benefit X5 with a general cleanup and a run to the landfill, followed by application of paint. But no. Probably like in big city projects where a resident has to get a work order for a light bulb change. Can't be doing that on your own.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 08:59 AM (gm9Sb)
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Trump asked Zelensky about striking Moscow, making Putin ‘feel the pain’: report
https://tinyurl.com/366nfbtw
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:55 AM (NpAcC)
Why do the words "according to a report" cause me to question the veracity of this story?
https://tinyurl.com/366nfbtw
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:55 AM (NpAcC)
Why do the words "according to a report" cause me to question the veracity of this story?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 08:59 AM (ExV1e)
234
Archie once said that the American Indians don't vote. They sell their horses for booze and then they can't ride into town to cast their ballots.
Posted by: All In The Family at July 15, 2025 09:00 AM (r/wv3)
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The fifth key takeaway from this dual-carrier operation is the threat to Guam. Sending carriers on either side of Guam is an unmistakable demonstration of the PLA’s plans to attack Guam.
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My godson just deployed to Guam with his team,.
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My godson just deployed to Guam with his team,.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:00 AM (S1Gwa)
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She's the Old Faithfull of retarded on Twitter/X.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 15, 2025 08:56 AM (jPdyB)
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I'm totally stealing that.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 15, 2025 08:56 AM (jPdyB)
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I'm totally stealing that.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 09:00 AM (YnIVK)
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Barry telling people to get tough is kind of funny, because after 2 minutes with me on top he's screaming and crying.
Posted by: BIG Mike Obama at July 15, 2025 09:00 AM (t0Rmr)
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Morning Horde, thx JJ. Finished nine holes. It's only 70°out but the humidity is crazy. Sweating like a madman.
I see the early art thread is a repeat. I expected urinals today
I see the early art thread is a repeat. I expected urinals today
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2025 09:00 AM (O8bOp)
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I like Vance, but he has this verbal habit I don't like. He prefaces almost every statement he makes with, "Look..." I Never cared for this, from anybody. I'm perfectly capable of understanding what you're saying without the subtle reproof to "look."
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:00 AM (WHfpM)
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Wolfus,
Set up Uber on your phone. I used them when the car was down or in the shop. Much easier than taking a cab and cheaper. You may need them again while you are recovering.
Set up Uber on your phone. I used them when the car was down or in the shop. Much easier than taking a cab and cheaper. You may need them again while you are recovering.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2025 09:01 AM (AcTAo)
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The mission of the Bureau of Indian Affairs needs to switch to encouraging trade deals with India.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (YnIVK)
We'll give you back all your "best and brightest" who're currently toiling away in the US on H1B visas AND 1M toilets. You don't have to give us anything. Deal?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 08:57 AM (YnIVK)
We'll give you back all your "best and brightest" who're currently toiling away in the US on H1B visas AND 1M toilets. You don't have to give us anything. Deal?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:01 AM (ExV1e)
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Didn't Lil Z send a drone attack to Moscow a while back?
My vague memory is the FNM claimed it was a false flag by Putin AND a great success by the Ukes at the same time
My vague memory is the FNM claimed it was a false flag by Putin AND a great success by the Ukes at the same time
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:02 AM (t0Rmr)
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Trump asked Zelensky about striking Moscow, making Putin ‘feel the pain’
I'm pretty sure this is what Trump campaigned on.
Epstein Files deleted.
Global conflict intensified.
Debt ceiling raised.
Promises made, promises kept!
I'm pretty sure this is what Trump campaigned on.
Epstein Files deleted.
Global conflict intensified.
Debt ceiling raised.
Promises made, promises kept!
Posted by: Regular AoS Reader at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (x94on)
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239 I worked with a guy who began every statement with “So.” Got on my nerves, but everybody’s got their own verbal tics.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ)
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244 239 I worked with a guy who began every statement with “So.” Got on my nerves, but everybody’s got their own verbal tics.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ
What I hate is "To your point"
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ
What I hate is "To your point"
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (VE6XX)
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Chelsea could run for a seat in Congress and win in New York. Her name and family connections could probably get her there.
She’d have to prove exceptional in that role to ever think of running for president.
Since she seems to have taken on the personality of her mother and has inherited none of her father’s charm, I doubt if she’ll ever make it as a politician.
She’d have to prove exceptional in that role to ever think of running for president.
Since she seems to have taken on the personality of her mother and has inherited none of her father’s charm, I doubt if she’ll ever make it as a politician.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (6ydKt)
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214 — That’s a funny story Tom
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (ANuwa)
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IF a simple verbal tic annoys you all the time, does not say much about you.
Must go through every day steaming with anger over things you have no control over but wish you did.
Must go through every day steaming with anger over things you have no control over but wish you did.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (fFOKU)
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- Another problem for the standard model? Color me shocked.
Well, like those first pics from the JWST, they'll come up with a rescue mechanism to hand wave it away.
Galaxies must have started forming much earlier than we thought.
Well, like those first pics from the JWST, they'll come up with a rescue mechanism to hand wave it away.
Galaxies must have started forming much earlier than we thought.
Posted by: TeeJ at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (13qJQ)
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I worked with a guy who began every statement with “So.” Got on my nerves, but everybody’s got their own verbal tics.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ
What I hate is "To your point"
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (VE6XX)
I start presentations with "pay attention, fuckheads".
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ
What I hate is "To your point"
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (VE6XX)
I start presentations with "pay attention, fuckheads".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (ExV1e)
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If the Jihadi marxist is elected Mayor of New York, what will the beacon of World Capitalism, Wall Street, do?
Jack Sh#t
Jack Sh#t
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (YCxFk)
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And Inherit the Wind was written as an indictment of…wait for it…McCarthyism.
Remember folks, the Red Scare was terrible and unfounded! Just ignore that we know there were in fact Soviet spies all throughout the government.
On the other hand, as we know White Supremacists are THE threat to America. Why if they aren't throwing bleach at D-List black actors in Chicago they are tying nooses onto black NASCAR driver's garaged!
Remember folks, the Red Scare was terrible and unfounded! Just ignore that we know there were in fact Soviet spies all throughout the government.
On the other hand, as we know White Supremacists are THE threat to America. Why if they aren't throwing bleach at D-List black actors in Chicago they are tying nooses onto black NASCAR driver's garaged!
Posted by: The FNM at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (t0Rmr)
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127 “This is a nightmare scenario for the Dems right now,” the anonymous strategist told the outlet. “We better pray long and hard that the country is going to be in a fucking depression because I don’t know how else we find ourselves out of this mess.”
Look into this a bit more, and it’s actually quite a significant statement. This strategist is admitting that the political right is in such a strong position that unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Look into this a bit more, and it’s actually quite a significant statement. This strategist is admitting that the political right is in such a strong position that unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
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I worked with a guy who began every statement with “So.” Got on my nerves, but everybody’s got their own verbal tics.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ)
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So what?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ)
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So what?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (tT6L1)
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221 Trump asked Zelensky about striking Moscow, making Putin ‘feel the pain’: report
https://tinyurl.com/366nfbtw
Posted by: redridinghood
I suspect Putin is holding out for a better deal from Trump. Maybe he read Trump's book?
https://tinyurl.com/366nfbtw
Posted by: redridinghood
I suspect Putin is holding out for a better deal from Trump. Maybe he read Trump's book?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (Dv3i1)
256
English is dead. It was replaced by American.
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (AOsQT)
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I think in 2028, we have the best pool for a National ticket, then we have had in many decades.
Have no problem with any combination of Vance, DeSantis or Rubio.
Have no problem with any combination of Vance, DeSantis or Rubio.
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (YCxFk)
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Well time to go and see if I can practice origami with photo-etch metal parts.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (fFOKU)
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256 English is dead. It was replaced by American.
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (AOsQT)
America.. F' Yeah !
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (AOsQT)
America.. F' Yeah !
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (VE6XX)
260
Don't fire until you see the "whites". Pretty much the way it's been for the last 25 years.
Posted by: Case at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (ilX37)
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Obama has relegated himself to part-time party elder who shows up every six months for a tough-talking pep rally speech and then disappears again until he needs some more attention.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (6ydKt)
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Look into this a bit more, and it’s actually quite a significant statement. This strategist is admitting that the political right is in such a strong position that unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo
I'm free to help!
Posted by: Tom Servo
I'm free to help!
Posted by: Dr Fauci at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (Dv3i1)
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Look into this a bit more, and it’s actually quite a significant statement. This strategist is admitting that the political right is in such a strong position that unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
It's a good position to be in, I think. With the Ds marginalized more attention can be paid to rid ourselves of the GOPe.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
It's a good position to be in, I think. With the Ds marginalized more attention can be paid to rid ourselves of the GOPe.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (WfZMN)
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If the economy is doing well in the summer of 2026, we aren't in WWIII with Russia or China, and anti-vote fraud efforts continue the GOP will make significant gains in Congress.
But I do worry about the vote fraud angle - in '24 the Dems openly stole 4 Senate seats and not a single arrest since then.
But I do worry about the vote fraud angle - in '24 the Dems openly stole 4 Senate seats and not a single arrest since then.
Posted by: The FNM at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (t0Rmr)
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Listened to The Show yesterday with Charles Hoskinson. The guy just casually drops that 25% of the population of Guatemala is in the US and that remittances keep the country a float. Host just lets it slide. No where'd you get that number or anything.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (jPdyB)
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253 praying for a depression. Why not thermonuclear warfare? Not saying we won't get our hair mussed but maybe 30 million, 40 million tops dead.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (gm9Sb)
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Putin is worth 200 billion. He does want the war to end, because if it does, he will not be able to protect that money anymore
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (YCxFk)
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RIP Viv Savage of Spinal Tap.
Posted by: Blame It On gp's Juice at July 15, 2025 09:08 AM (TwZXH)
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“This is a nightmare scenario for the Dems right now,” the anonymous strategist told the outlet. “We better pray long and hard that the country is going to be in a fucking depression because I don’t know how else we find ourselves out of this mess.”
Look into this a bit more, and it’s actually quite a significant statement. This strategist is admitting that the political right is in such a strong position that unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
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Yeah, well, notice also Democrats are hoping disaster befalls the American public. The right points out the follies of the left, whereas the left hopes for disaster they can use to their advantage. Seems a we bit difference in approach to governance.
Look into this a bit more, and it’s actually quite a significant statement. This strategist is admitting that the political right is in such a strong position that unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
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Yeah, well, notice also Democrats are hoping disaster befalls the American public. The right points out the follies of the left, whereas the left hopes for disaster they can use to their advantage. Seems a we bit difference in approach to governance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 09:08 AM (tT6L1)
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I worked with a guy who began every statement with “So.” Got on my nerves, but everybody’s got their own verbal tics.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ
What I hate is "To your point"
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (VE6XX)
I start presentations with "pay attention, fuckheads".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (ExV1e)
My pet peeve is overuse of the word literally.
I literally hear people say literally literally every other sentence. It literally drives me literally nuts
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ
What I hate is "To your point"
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (VE6XX)
I start presentations with "pay attention, fuckheads".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (ExV1e)
My pet peeve is overuse of the word literally.
I literally hear people say literally literally every other sentence. It literally drives me literally nuts
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 09:08 AM (i5Vkf)
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Stupid FNM sock
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:08 AM (t0Rmr)
272
Look into this a bit more, and it’s actually quite a significant statement. This strategist is admitting that the political right is in such a strong position that unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
And just like that... absolutely everyone on social media was utterly consumed by the Epstein Files.
Pure coincidence.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
And just like that... absolutely everyone on social media was utterly consumed by the Epstein Files.
Pure coincidence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:08 AM (ExV1e)
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praying for a depression. Why not thermonuclear warfare? Not saying we won't get our hair mussed but maybe 30 million, 40 million tops dead.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (gm9Sb)
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Don't ever believe the left wouldn't delight in nuclear war if it meant a sure path to power.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 09:07 AM (gm9Sb)
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Don't ever believe the left wouldn't delight in nuclear war if it meant a sure path to power.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 09:09 AM (tT6L1)
274
"264 If the economy is doing well in the summer of 2026, we aren't in WWIII with Russia or China, and anti-vote fraud efforts continue the GOP will make significant gains in Congress."
Turnout, turnout, turnout.
Turnout, turnout, turnout.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:09 AM (WHfpM)
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Defund Indian Affairs next. Let the Indians be free of govt meddling.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (Dv3i1)
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Is there a more corrupt agency anywhere in yhe US government? Let the Indians figure out their own business.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 08:39 AM (Dv3i1)
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Is there a more corrupt agency anywhere in yhe US government? Let the Indians figure out their own business.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:09 AM (U0/BL)
276
I suspect Putin is holding out for a better deal from Trump. Maybe he read Trump's book?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (Dv3i1)
Has Zelensky agreed to Putin's demands or is he still reading western strategists who sell columns saying he's winning?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:06 AM (Dv3i1)
Has Zelensky agreed to Putin's demands or is he still reading western strategists who sell columns saying he's winning?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:09 AM (ExV1e)
277
I worked with a guy who began every statement with “So.” Got on my nerves, but everybody’s got their own verbal tics.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ
So, was that wrong?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ
So, was that wrong?
Posted by: dantesed at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (Oy/m2)
278
264. Senate looks good for 2026. Many low hanging GOP House seats were lost in the 2024 election by fraud. NY, Cal etc...
There is hope that Texas will do a mid level Redistricting, maybe Ohio too
There is hope that Texas will do a mid level Redistricting, maybe Ohio too
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (YCxFk)
279
Excluding volatile food and energy prices, core inflation picked up 0.2% on the month, with the annual rate moving to 2.9%, with the annual rate in line with estimates. The monthly level was slightly below the outlook for a 0.3% gain.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (gbOdA)
280
270 Absolutely. The all purpose word.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (gm9Sb)
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253 praying for a depression. Why not thermonuclear warfare? Not saying we won't get our hair mussed but maybe 30 million, 40 million tops dead.
I was amused that during the last couple of years a bunch of NYC/DC based leftists were demanding nuclear war with Russia. It was almost a like a real world caricature of the parody the left made of "cold warriors" in the 50s and 60s.
I guess at some point these people realized they would literally be at ground zero for a Russian response and the talk disappeared...or perhaps they just "moved on" to other lefty talking points.
I was amused that during the last couple of years a bunch of NYC/DC based leftists were demanding nuclear war with Russia. It was almost a like a real world caricature of the parody the left made of "cold warriors" in the 50s and 60s.
I guess at some point these people realized they would literally be at ground zero for a Russian response and the talk disappeared...or perhaps they just "moved on" to other lefty talking points.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (t0Rmr)
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Look into this a bit more, and it’s actually quite a significant statement. This strategist is admitting that the political right is in such a strong position that unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo
I'm free to help!
Posted by: Dr Fauci
Not for long, Autopen boi. Not for long.
Posted by: Tom Servo
I'm free to help!
Posted by: Dr Fauci
Not for long, Autopen boi. Not for long.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (4IClK)
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Irregardless
I had a partner that used this to the point I screamed at him at a meeting one day.
I had a partner that used this to the point I screamed at him at a meeting one day.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (gbOdA)
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Absolutely. The all purpose word.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (gm9Sb)
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Perfect...but, make sure to up talk "Perfect."
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (gm9Sb)
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Perfect...but, make sure to up talk "Perfect."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (tT6L1)
285
Is there a more corrupt agency anywhere in yhe US government? Let the Indians figure out their own business.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:09 AM (U0/BL)
I could, maybe reluctantly, get behind an effort to remove the reservation concept and use BIA money to encourage development of those spaces via private organizations. Reluctantly.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:09 AM (U0/BL)
I could, maybe reluctantly, get behind an effort to remove the reservation concept and use BIA money to encourage development of those spaces via private organizations. Reluctantly.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (WfZMN)
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Obama is a genital wart of a guy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (kTd/k)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (4IClK)
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unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
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And just like that... absolutely everyone on social media was utterly consumed by the Epstein Files.
Pure coincidence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:08 AM (ExV1e)
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Funny thing, dat.
While a "generation or more" sounds good I just want Trump to keep on doing his thing, and that means we must win the midterms.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
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And just like that... absolutely everyone on social media was utterly consumed by the Epstein Files.
Pure coincidence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:08 AM (ExV1e)
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Funny thing, dat.
While a "generation or more" sounds good I just want Trump to keep on doing his thing, and that means we must win the midterms.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:12 AM (U0/BL)
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You shouldn’t be surprised that the demons who want to sexualize and corrupt your children, and whom have bees radicalizing them against God and family, jeered Vance’s children.
That is today’s Democrat Party encapsulated. You should expect every anti-human action, lie, fabrication and deviant behavior from them.
That is today’s Democrat Party encapsulated. You should expect every anti-human action, lie, fabrication and deviant behavior from them.
Posted by: Vengeance at July 15, 2025 09:12 AM (ynlMv)
290
Absolutely is a fabulous word.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 09:12 AM (tT6L1)
291
There is hope that Texas will do a mid level Redistricting, maybe Ohio too
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (YCxFk)
I worry that the Texas Legislature will read too much into the 2024 Presidential numbers and draw lines which'll lose a few Republican seats.
Posted by: Jonah at July 15, 2025 09:10 AM (YCxFk)
I worry that the Texas Legislature will read too much into the 2024 Presidential numbers and draw lines which'll lose a few Republican seats.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:12 AM (ExV1e)
292
Is there a more corrupt agency anywhere in yhe US government? Let the Indians figure out their own business.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:09 AM (U0/BL)
Hand out a few used blankets and people get pissed!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:09 AM (U0/BL)
Hand out a few used blankets and people get pissed!
Posted by: Indian Agent Man at July 15, 2025 09:12 AM (gbOdA)
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It's also...
National Gummi Worm Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:50 AM
Oh, yes! You try lots of sugar-free gummi worms!
National Gummi Worm Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 08:50 AM
Oh, yes! You try lots of sugar-free gummi worms!
Posted by: Haribo at July 15, 2025 09:12 AM (kgE5c)
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"Let me be frank."
"I wanna be Frank. You can be Ralph."
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"Well, to be honest with you..."
"So you've been lying up to now?"
"I wanna be Frank. You can be Ralph."
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"Well, to be honest with you..."
"So you've been lying up to now?"
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 09:13 AM (AOsQT)
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My father used to hate the response "I have no idea." He would chide us as kids if he heard us say that. It was bleak and defeatist to him. You can do better, he'd say.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:13 AM (WHfpM)
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>> Chelsea could run for a seat in Congress and win in New York. Her name and family connections could probably get her there.
She is incoherent and charmless.
Really, it's fascinating how she produces nothing but word salad when interviewed.
She is incoherent and charmless.
Really, it's fascinating how she produces nothing but word salad when interviewed.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:13 AM (GbwPZ)
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I hate business cliches more than verbal tics.
We must leverage our core competencies to enhance the value proposition of our core business through numerous paradigm shifts and create a data driven environment.
We must leverage our core competencies to enhance the value proposition of our core business through numerous paradigm shifts and create a data driven environment.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (WfZMN)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (4IClK)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (t0Rmr)
300
Is Obama holding a PU sniper?
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Swedish Fish at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (GbwPZ)
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unless some inconceivable disaster happens, the left will be shut out of power for a generation or more. And there’s nothing that they, on their own, can do about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
And just like that... absolutely everyone on social media was utterly consumed by the Epstein Files.
Pure coincidence.
+++
And the fake "Trump amnesty" for hospitality / farm illegals the week before. Today, "Trump plotting to bomb Moscow". Some weird stuff going on. Guess we'll have to wait 72 hours or more to get a sense of what's really happening.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 09:05 AM (YQdCi)
And just like that... absolutely everyone on social media was utterly consumed by the Epstein Files.
Pure coincidence.
+++
And the fake "Trump amnesty" for hospitality / farm illegals the week before. Today, "Trump plotting to bomb Moscow". Some weird stuff going on. Guess we'll have to wait 72 hours or more to get a sense of what's really happening.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (jPdyB)
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Chelsea could run for a seat in Congress and win in New York. Her name and family connections could probably get her there.
She is incoherent and charmless.
Really, it's fascinating how she produces nothing but word salad when interviewed.
Posted by: Lizzy
Toenail fungus has more charm.
She is incoherent and charmless.
Really, it's fascinating how she produces nothing but word salad when interviewed.
Posted by: Lizzy
Toenail fungus has more charm.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (4IClK)
304
I liked the article by Professor Voth on the Scopes. trial. Thanks, J.J.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (yqmRf)
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I had a partner that used this to the point I screamed at him at a meeting one day.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (gbOdA)
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Hate that, too.
I had a salesman working for me who used "effected" as a verb, as in "I effected that request for you", and I went a little nuts whenever he said it to me.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (gbOdA)
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Hate that, too.
I had a salesman working for me who used "effected" as a verb, as in "I effected that request for you", and I went a little nuts whenever he said it to me.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:15 AM (U0/BL)
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"I'm not gonna lie..."
Posted by: Well I should hope not at July 15, 2025 09:15 AM (XQo4F)
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Irregardless
I had a partner that used this to the point I screamed at him at a meeting one day.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (gbOdA)
Had a professor who bitched about 'obviously'. He said, "If it were obvious, you wouldn't need to explain it."
And, of course, at nuclear power school, you'd get assigned PT for saying nuke-you-lur.
I had a partner that used this to the point I screamed at him at a meeting one day.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (gbOdA)
Had a professor who bitched about 'obviously'. He said, "If it were obvious, you wouldn't need to explain it."
And, of course, at nuclear power school, you'd get assigned PT for saying nuke-you-lur.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:15 AM (ExV1e)
308
Toenail fungus has more charm.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (4IClK)
And is more attractive...
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (4IClK)
And is more attractive...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:15 AM (VE6XX)
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Nothing that spreads like wildfire in the blogosphere, or in the media is a "coincidence".
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 09:15 AM (g47mK)
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Must go through every day steaming with anger over things you have no control over but wish you did.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (fFOKU)
Welcome to my world.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 09:04 AM (fFOKU)
Welcome to my world.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (Dg2sF)
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I had a salesman working for me who used "effected" as a verb, as in "I effected that request for you", and I went a little nuts whenever he said it to me.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:15 AM (U0/BL)
I actioned a complaint on him.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:15 AM (U0/BL)
I actioned a complaint on him.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (WfZMN)
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>>We must leverage our core competencies to enhance the value proposition of our core business through numerous paradigm shifts and create a data driven environment.
But what's the value-ad?
Let's table that, a tiger team can address it.
But what's the value-ad?
Let's table that, a tiger team can address it.
Posted by: Swedish Fish at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (GbwPZ)
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DHS Has Begun Sending Out Notices to Illegal Aliens Informing Them They Owe $1.8 Million Dollars
hahahahaha
hahahahaha
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (gbOdA)
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She is incoherent and charmless.
Really, it's fascinating how she produces nothing but word salad when interviewed.
Posted by: Lizzy
TBH she's fit perfectly in as a blue state federal senator. Perhaps replacing the aging bimbo in NYS?
She is incoherent and charmless.
Really, it's fascinating how she produces nothing but word salad when interviewed.
Posted by: Lizzy
TBH she's fit perfectly in as a blue state federal senator. Perhaps replacing the aging bimbo in NYS?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (t0Rmr)
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Sometimes I want to go full on grammar nazi, but I manage to hold myself in check
mostly in check
mostly in check
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (AOsQT)
316
Like has anybody like seen Caroline Kennrdy like in awhile.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (HFcKg)
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I wouldn’t rest too easy over the fate of the Dems.
MAGA is based on Trump, without him it wouldn’t exist.
Vance, DeSantis, Rubio, or somebody else might be a successor but there’s no guarantee they’ll pull as much support as Trump, who is a once in a lifetime kind of political leader.
With Trump gone from power the entire thing may fall apart. He’s the glue.
MAGA is based on Trump, without him it wouldn’t exist.
Vance, DeSantis, Rubio, or somebody else might be a successor but there’s no guarantee they’ll pull as much support as Trump, who is a once in a lifetime kind of political leader.
With Trump gone from power the entire thing may fall apart. He’s the glue.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (6ydKt)
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My father used to hate the response "I have no idea." He would chide us as kids if he heard us say that. It was bleak and defeatist to him. You can do better, he'd say.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:13 AM (WHfpM)
I'd have responded with, "I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens."
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:13 AM (WHfpM)
I'd have responded with, "I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:17 AM (ExV1e)
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316 Like has anybody like seen Caroline Kennrdy like in awhile.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (HFcKg)
Anybody here seen my old friend Bary
Can you tell me where hes gone?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (HFcKg)
Anybody here seen my old friend Bary
Can you tell me where hes gone?
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (gbOdA)
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Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
Commie Mamdani: Trump’s authoritarianism is to blame for "the rapid decline of tourists" coming to NYC.
"I will make it clear that the world is welcome in this city."
https://tinyurl.com/2rvh7w5p
@WesternLensman
Commie Mamdani: Trump’s authoritarianism is to blame for "the rapid decline of tourists" coming to NYC.
"I will make it clear that the world is welcome in this city."
https://tinyurl.com/2rvh7w5p
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (NpAcC)
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I'd have responded with, "I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens."
One of the best cameos of all time was that guy being in the TV Show Resident Alien
I'd have responded with, "I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens."
One of the best cameos of all time was that guy being in the TV Show Resident Alien
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (t0Rmr)
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Reports are that *biden has lawyer'd up ahead of a possible investigation into his staff's use of the autopen.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (Q4IgG)
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Absolutely is a fabulous word.
Speaking of which... https://tinyurl.com/yew867ft
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (t0Rmr)
Spectacular is a fabulous word…
https://youtu.be/aQNkeugaAMc
Speaking of which... https://tinyurl.com/yew867ft
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:14 AM (t0Rmr)
Spectacular is a fabulous word…
https://youtu.be/aQNkeugaAMc
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (6RwsA)
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Go to any coffee stand and you will hear the 20-something girl who takes your order use the word "perfect" no less than three times.
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (oyCAU)
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My father used to hate the response "I have no idea." He would chide us as kids if he heard us say that. It was bleak and defeatist to him. You can do better, he'd say.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:13 AM (WHfpM)
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Heh, my late father hated it, when, after I'd done something stupid, he'd ask me why and I'd respond, "I dunno." And, I really couldn't articulate a reason why I'd done what I did. 6 year old me wasn't big on actions and outcomes.
But, I did remember that with my kids and, when they'd do something stupid and tell me, "I don't know" when questioned, it pretty much ended any long winded lecture. They'd get a "well, don't do it again" and that would be the end of the matter.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:13 AM (WHfpM)
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Heh, my late father hated it, when, after I'd done something stupid, he'd ask me why and I'd respond, "I dunno." And, I really couldn't articulate a reason why I'd done what I did. 6 year old me wasn't big on actions and outcomes.
But, I did remember that with my kids and, when they'd do something stupid and tell me, "I don't know" when questioned, it pretty much ended any long winded lecture. They'd get a "well, don't do it again" and that would be the end of the matter.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 09:19 AM (tT6L1)
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"I will make it clear that the world is welcome in this city."
https://tinyurl.com/2rvh7w5p
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (NpAcC)
Except BIbi.. and the Jews... Forget Trump voters...
"I will make it clear that the world is welcome in this city."
https://tinyurl.com/2rvh7w5p
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (NpAcC)
Except BIbi.. and the Jews... Forget Trump voters...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:19 AM (VE6XX)
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"Let Me Be Clear"...I love caak!
Posted by: Barack Obama, Pole Smoker at July 15, 2025 09:19 AM (r/wv3)
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I worry that the Texas Legislature will read too much into the 2024 Presidential numbers and draw lines which'll lose a few Republican seats.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:12 AM (ExV1e)
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All over America there are Republican politicians trying to figure out how to snatch defeat from victory right now. The Senate GOP caucus spends their every waking hour on that job.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:12 AM (ExV1e)
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All over America there are Republican politicians trying to figure out how to snatch defeat from victory right now. The Senate GOP caucus spends their every waking hour on that job.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:19 AM (ZcDSg)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:20 AM (77rzZ)
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Rasmussen has had Trump in positive approval pretty much since day 1.
It’s now negative. The Epstein thing isn’t helping.
It’s now negative. The Epstein thing isn’t helping.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 09:20 AM (ImXfC)
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"I will make it clear that the world is welcome in this city."
Just be aware that we're ringing the city with minefields and crew served weapons. Enjoy your stay in NYC.
Just be aware that we're ringing the city with minefields and crew served weapons. Enjoy your stay in NYC.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:20 AM (ExV1e)
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>>I had a partner that used this to the point I screamed at him at a meeting one day.
Had a boss who insisted problems were "challenges and opportunities." She seemed to think this made her sound wise, but it was just annoying. Yeah, yeah, whatever, we still have to deal with this. . . whatever you want to call it!
Had a boss who insisted problems were "challenges and opportunities." She seemed to think this made her sound wise, but it was just annoying. Yeah, yeah, whatever, we still have to deal with this. . . whatever you want to call it!
Posted by: Swedish Fish at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (GbwPZ)
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331 "I will make it clear that the world is welcome in this city."
While you still have a city, which won't be for long.
While you still have a city, which won't be for long.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (WHfpM)
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Go to any coffee stand and you will hear the 20-something girl who takes your order use the word "perfect" no less than three times.
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (oyCAU)
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Suddenly, it seems they all say "of course" after you thank them, instead of "you're welcome"
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (oyCAU)
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Suddenly, it seems they all say "of course" after you thank them, instead of "you're welcome"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (ZcDSg)
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"I will make it clear that the world is welcome in this city."
WOOHOO Its party time again boys!
WOOHOO Its party time again boys!
Posted by: Al Qaeda at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (t0Rmr)
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316 Like has anybody like seen Caroline Kennrdy like in awhile.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (HFcKg)
Don't look at me? Schlossberg with a bloody knife and suitcases full of body parts...
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 09:16 AM (HFcKg)
Don't look at me? Schlossberg with a bloody knife and suitcases full of body parts...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (x0n13)
337
Good morning dear morons and happy birthday JJ
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (JvZF+)
338
“Reach out to…”
No. Unless it’s to the hawt admin assistant, I’m not reaching out to anybody.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:20 AM (77rzZ)
Touch base. Dovetail. Engage in promiscuous homosexual sex with...
All depends on how high up the corporate ladder you get.
No. Unless it’s to the hawt admin assistant, I’m not reaching out to anybody.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:20 AM (77rzZ)
Touch base. Dovetail. Engage in promiscuous homosexual sex with...
All depends on how high up the corporate ladder you get.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (ExV1e)
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There’s no question that Trump has screwed the pooch on the Epstein thing.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)
340
Go to any coffee stand and you will hear the 20-something girl who takes your order use the word "perfect" no less than three times.
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (oyCAU)
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Fistbump, Word.
See my 284
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:18 AM (oyCAU)
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Fistbump, Word.
See my 284
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (tT6L1)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 09:23 AM (ExV1e)
342
I have a friend who gets visibly irritated if someone uses a modifier before the word "unique" (as in "very unique" or "somewhat unique"). Unique means one of a kind or distinguished from all others; the thing you're describing is either unique or it isn't.
Posted by: PabloD at July 15, 2025 09:23 AM (oyCAU)
343
339 There’s no question that Trump has screwed the pooch on the Epstein thing.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)
Not his finest hour...
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)
Not his finest hour...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 15, 2025 09:23 AM (VE6XX)
344
Had a boss who insisted problems were "challenges and opportunities." She seemed to think this made her sound wise, but it was just annoying. Yeah, yeah, whatever, we still have to deal with this. . . whatever you want to call it!
Posted by: Swedish Fish at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (GbwPZ)
That was a thing in my MBA program. Prof said to never use the word "problem" because it sinks morale. Put a positive spin on it.
I aced the class and promptly forgot everything he ever said.
Posted by: Swedish Fish at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (GbwPZ)
That was a thing in my MBA program. Prof said to never use the word "problem" because it sinks morale. Put a positive spin on it.
I aced the class and promptly forgot everything he ever said.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 09:23 AM (mYLg6)
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>>I had a partner that used this to the point I screamed at him at a meeting one day.
It was the CEO for a company I used to work for that tried to make "embrace the power of 'and'" happen.
He said that ALL the time for at least a year, and was gently mocked until he dropped it. Everyone would tease "you just want us to do more with the same resource, dude.
And then the horde embraced "embracing the power of and," too!
It was the CEO for a company I used to work for that tried to make "embrace the power of 'and'" happen.
He said that ALL the time for at least a year, and was gently mocked until he dropped it. Everyone would tease "you just want us to do more with the same resource, dude.
And then the horde embraced "embracing the power of and," too!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:23 AM (GbwPZ)
346
335 "I will make it clear that the world is welcome in this city."
WOOHOO Its party time again boys!
Posted by: Al Qaeda at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (t0Rmr)
Direct flight right to - - INTO - - the Freedom Tower...
WOOHOO Its party time again boys!
Posted by: Al Qaeda at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (t0Rmr)
Direct flight right to - - INTO - - the Freedom Tower...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 09:23 AM (x0n13)
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309 Nothing that spreads like wildfire in the blogosphere, or in the media is a "coincidence".
Posted by: runner
Imagine the blogosphere and media as holding a laser pointer to toy with their readers. Be like the cat in the meme that is staring at the holder of the pointer while the other cat chases the dot.
Posted by: runner
Imagine the blogosphere and media as holding a laser pointer to toy with their readers. Be like the cat in the meme that is staring at the holder of the pointer while the other cat chases the dot.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:24 AM (Dv3i1)
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261 Obama has relegated himself to part-time party elder who shows up every six months for a tough-talking pep rally speech and then disappears again until he needs some more attention.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
He's an actor, his activity at this point is to sign deals with Hollywood for he and Big Mike to collect for fronting other peoples ideas, just like he always has done.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
He's an actor, his activity at this point is to sign deals with Hollywood for he and Big Mike to collect for fronting other peoples ideas, just like he always has done.
Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2025 09:24 AM (Y8DZL)
349
With Trump gone from power the entire thing may fall apart. He’s the glue.
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Yes. Vance has a fan base. Rogan's audience loves the guy. Elon wanted him to replace Trump. With Trump behind him as The Godfather, he could be an off ramp to mere mortals running a new consolidated base.
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Yes. Vance has a fan base. Rogan's audience loves the guy. Elon wanted him to replace Trump. With Trump behind him as The Godfather, he could be an off ramp to mere mortals running a new consolidated base.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 15, 2025 09:24 AM (jPdyB)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:24 AM (GbwPZ)
351
Women who are older than 30 and still use the word "like" at least three times in every sentence.
Posted by: You sound like you're 14 at July 15, 2025 09:24 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 15, 2025 09:25 AM (mYLg6)
353
Obama is a genital wart of a guy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (kTd/k)
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A good summary
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM (kTd/k)
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A good summary
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:25 AM (ZcDSg)
354
A speechwriter for former President Barack Obama suggested in a guest essay on Sunday that it might be time to stop shunning conservatives over a disagreement with their politics.
David Litt wrote in The New York Times that he felt "a civic duty" to be rude to his brother-in-law, citing his support for Joe Rogan and disagreements over the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccines.
"My frostiness wasn’t personal. It was strategic. Being unfriendly to people who turned down the vaccine felt like the right thing to do. How else could we motivate them to mend their ways?" Litt wrote.
However, Litt revealed that he wanted to take up surfing and his brother-in-law, Matt, was the only surfer he knew. So, Litt wrote, he put his unfriendliness towards him aside, and admitted his cold shoulder towards Matt had backfired.
David Litt wrote in The New York Times that he felt "a civic duty" to be rude to his brother-in-law, citing his support for Joe Rogan and disagreements over the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccines.
"My frostiness wasn’t personal. It was strategic. Being unfriendly to people who turned down the vaccine felt like the right thing to do. How else could we motivate them to mend their ways?" Litt wrote.
However, Litt revealed that he wanted to take up surfing and his brother-in-law, Matt, was the only surfer he knew. So, Litt wrote, he put his unfriendliness towards him aside, and admitted his cold shoulder towards Matt had backfired.
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 09:25 AM (RHGPo)
355
342 Yeah, people are confusing “unique” with “unusual.”
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:26 AM (77rzZ)
356
minor pet peeve, guy who says "right?" as a fill in for pauses.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:26 AM (Dv3i1)
357
339 There’s no question that Trump has screwed the pooch on the Epstein thing.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)
If he's not allowing the release for good reason, I hope he holds the line. Explain a little, but don't concede.
In the meantime, ratchet up other efforts at accountability hitherto frustrated.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)
If he's not allowing the release for good reason, I hope he holds the line. Explain a little, but don't concede.
In the meantime, ratchet up other efforts at accountability hitherto frustrated.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:26 AM (WHfpM)
358
As long as the west keeps arming Zelensky, there is no incentive for the war to end, it's largely been a low intensity affair for a number of years.
It's largely a theater act.
Putin really has no incentive to end the war so if that comment from the administration is accurate and they are prodding zelensky to hit Moscow, that is bright line of demarcation.
And if people thought protecting pedos was divisive, just wait until the Ukraine war is escalated.
It's largely a theater act.
Putin really has no incentive to end the war so if that comment from the administration is accurate and they are prodding zelensky to hit Moscow, that is bright line of demarcation.
And if people thought protecting pedos was divisive, just wait until the Ukraine war is escalated.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 09:27 AM (Xzotn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 09:27 AM (x0n13)
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356 minor pet peeve, guy who says "right?" as a fill in for pauses.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:26 AM (Dv3i1)
This is spreading everywhere. It's a subtle, insecure plea for affirmation.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:26 AM (Dv3i1)
This is spreading everywhere. It's a subtle, insecure plea for affirmation.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:27 AM (WHfpM)
361
Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
BREAKING: President Trump exposes Adam Schiff for possible mortgage fraud.
https://tinyurl.com/3ejcs3ft
@bennyjohnson
BREAKING: President Trump exposes Adam Schiff for possible mortgage fraud.
https://tinyurl.com/3ejcs3ft
Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 09:27 AM (NpAcC)
362
Suddenly, it seems they all say "of course" after you thank them, instead of "you're welcome"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (ZcDSg)
So, like what’s your point?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (ZcDSg)
So, like what’s your point?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 09:28 AM (ImXfC)
363
"Lean in..."
Posted by: Like the tower in Italy? at July 15, 2025 09:28 AM (XQo4F)
364
Rochelle Marinato, managing director at Pilates World Australia, recently received an email from Instagram's parent company Meta stating her accounts had been suspended because the image breached community guidelines relating to 'child sexual exploitation, abuse and nudity'.
The photo had been mistakenly flagged by an AI moderator which confused the image of the dogs with those of children.
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She appealed the decision and sent 22 emails to Meta, but received no assistance from the global tech giant, which owns Instagram, Facebook, Threads, Messenger and WhatsApp.
Ms Marinato told Daily Mail Australia the suspension had a serious financial impact on her business.
'When it first happened I thought it was just a silly mistake and we'll fix it and it might take an hour,' she said.
'We were in the middle of the end of financial year sales for the business so it was pretty horrendous timing.
The photo had been mistakenly flagged by an AI moderator which confused the image of the dogs with those of children.
The video player is currently playing an ad. You can skip the ad in 5 sec with a mouse or keyboard
She appealed the decision and sent 22 emails to Meta, but received no assistance from the global tech giant, which owns Instagram, Facebook, Threads, Messenger and WhatsApp.
Ms Marinato told Daily Mail Australia the suspension had a serious financial impact on her business.
'When it first happened I thought it was just a silly mistake and we'll fix it and it might take an hour,' she said.
'We were in the middle of the end of financial year sales for the business so it was pretty horrendous timing.
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 09:29 AM (RHGPo)
365
Suddenly, it seems they all say "of course" after you thank them, instead of "you're welcome"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (ZcDSg)
Or they say "No problem." The might try "My pleasure."
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:21 AM (ZcDSg)
Or they say "No problem." The might try "My pleasure."
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:29 AM (WHfpM)
366
If there's no there THERE vis a vis Epstein, then why is Jiz-lane Maxwell in prison?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 09:27 AM (x0n13)
Egg-Zactly.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 09:27 AM (x0n13)
Egg-Zactly.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 09:29 AM (ImXfC)
367
Like I feel that like you people are like judging me for like the way that I like talk...you know? And like, I don't like like that feeling? Like...does that like make sense?
Posted by: Here this with uptalk and a slight Boston accent at July 15, 2025 09:29 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 15, 2025 09:29 AM (x0n13)
369
LegalInsurrection says a majority of Democrats believe the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax was real.
Propaganda works.
Propaganda works.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2025 09:30 AM (wx3Fk)
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356 minor pet peeve, guy who says "right?" as a fill in for pauses.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:26 AM (Dv3i1)
This is spreading everywhere. It's a subtle, insecure plea for affirmation.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:27 AM (WHfpM)
It’s literally ubiquitous!!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 15, 2025 09:26 AM (Dv3i1)
This is spreading everywhere. It's a subtle, insecure plea for affirmation.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:27 AM (WHfpM)
It’s literally ubiquitous!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (6RwsA)
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Stuff like of course instead of you’re welcome doesn’t really bother me. Language changes all the time. I’m sure there was something before you’re welcome became widespread.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (ImXfC)
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She appealed the decision and sent 22 emails to Meta, but received no assistance from the global tech giant, which owns Instagram, Facebook, Threads, Messenger and WhatsApp.
The goal of "customer service" at most tech companies is to keep you from ever talking to a human being
The goal of "customer service" at most tech companies is to keep you from ever talking to a human being
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (t0Rmr)
373
Noodus ars gratia artis
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (omVj0)
374
People are easily emotionally manipulated.
Its logic. Epstein didn't screw all them girls himself. There has to be johns to have prostitution.
"I believe in Trump, no matter what" is emotion.
Its logic. Epstein didn't screw all them girls himself. There has to be johns to have prostitution.
"I believe in Trump, no matter what" is emotion.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (Yur+G)
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Leaked Messages Reveal Andreessen's Fury: 'Universities Declared War On 70% Of The Country'
In the private group chat with AI scientists and Trump administration officials, Andreessen stated that universities “declared war on 70% of the country and now they’re going to pay the price.” He criticized DEI and immigration policies, describing them as “two forms of discrimination” that are “politically lethal.”
In the private group chat with AI scientists and Trump administration officials, Andreessen stated that universities “declared war on 70% of the country and now they’re going to pay the price.” He criticized DEI and immigration policies, describing them as “two forms of discrimination” that are “politically lethal.”
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (RHGPo)
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>>A speechwriter for former President Barack Obama suggested in a guest essay on Sunday that it might be time to stop shunning conservatives over a disagreement with their politics. . .
He's not interested in agreement, he's interested in controlling the behavior of his family. He shunned them so that they would "mend their ways" then decided to reconnect so he could get free surfing lessons. What happened to loving people for who they are -- not what they can do for you?
What a guy! I'd say his conservative family are better off without this Karen of a relative.
He's not interested in agreement, he's interested in controlling the behavior of his family. He shunned them so that they would "mend their ways" then decided to reconnect so he could get free surfing lessons. What happened to loving people for who they are -- not what they can do for you?
What a guy! I'd say his conservative family are better off without this Karen of a relative.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (GbwPZ)
377
Way to go Disney
Their new animatronic of their founder looks more like Iosef Stalin than Walt Disney.
Disney delenda est.
Back to the metal origami.
Their new animatronic of their founder looks more like Iosef Stalin than Walt Disney.
Disney delenda est.
Back to the metal origami.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 09:32 AM (fFOKU)
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China’s dual-carrier deployment shows Beijing is all-in on sea power
There are two kinds of ships: Submarines and targets.
There are two kinds of ships: Submarines and targets.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2025 09:33 AM (0sNs1)
379
The Trunp position is basically Epstein happened in the past. Why are you guys still talking about things in the past. Really? Come on man.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 15, 2025 09:33 AM (ImXfC)
380
Obama is a genital wart of a guy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM
What did we ever do to you to deserve that comparison?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 15, 2025 09:11 AM
What did we ever do to you to deserve that comparison?
Posted by: Genital Warts at July 15, 2025 09:35 AM (0sNs1)
381
Randy Barnett
@RandyEBarnett
For all the talk of a “constitutional crisis” or threats to “our democracy” having the executive branch systematically run by unknown subordinates of a mentally incompetent president is the biggest constitutional scandal in US history—it’s called into question the legality of official acts done in his name but without proper authority.
@RandyEBarnett
For all the talk of a “constitutional crisis” or threats to “our democracy” having the executive branch systematically run by unknown subordinates of a mentally incompetent president is the biggest constitutional scandal in US history—it’s called into question the legality of official acts done in his name but without proper authority.
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2025 09:36 AM (RHGPo)
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The Trunp position is basically Epstein happened in the past.
He's protecting somebody. Somebody who is guilty of either engaging in child exploitation or abetting it. Thats a Hard Pass in my book, tax cuts be damned.
He's protecting somebody. Somebody who is guilty of either engaging in child exploitation or abetting it. Thats a Hard Pass in my book, tax cuts be damned.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 09:39 AM (Yur+G)
383
"I believe in Trump, no matter what" is emotion.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (Yur+G)
Every behavior or decision has some factor of emotion. In the above case, it is an understandable reaction to the maniacal, non-factual, utterly emotional campaign to destroy Trump. I can forgive it.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 09:31 AM (Yur+G)
Every behavior or decision has some factor of emotion. In the above case, it is an understandable reaction to the maniacal, non-factual, utterly emotional campaign to destroy Trump. I can forgive it.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:43 AM (WHfpM)
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He's protecting somebody. Somebody who is guilty of either engaging in child exploitation or abetting it.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 09:39 AM (Yur+G)
No evidence of this. He could genuinely see the story has not his problem, didn't happen under his watch, and he won't have his presidency sidetracked by the dead-end sensationalism of all the revelations.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 09:39 AM (Yur+G)
No evidence of this. He could genuinely see the story has not his problem, didn't happen under his watch, and he won't have his presidency sidetracked by the dead-end sensationalism of all the revelations.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2025 09:45 AM (WHfpM)
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376, I read that, too.
pretty much spot-on Lizzy.
demonrats = Mr Hankey with little stick arms & legs, whining constantly
pretty much spot-on Lizzy.
demonrats = Mr Hankey with little stick arms & legs, whining constantly
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 09:59 AM (dKEEs)
386
Is anyone else getting the "403 forbidden" error message on these Breitbart links?
Posted by: Happy at July 15, 2025 10:02 AM (8wFql)
387
They love that fecal matter.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at July 15, 2025 10:06 AM (+Se0n)
388
If I were Vance I would take my kids to Disney World (Florida) not Disneyland (California)
Posted by: AnnaS at July 15, 2025 10:11 AM (6RwsA)
389
great job JJ, as always.
Posted by: rusty schacklfjord at July 15, 2025 11:09 AM (MCZg8)
390
Looks like Barack Obama stole Brandon Johnson's hairstyle.
Posted by: Wofus at July 15, 2025 11:33 AM (CNa+A)
391
Good AM, all. Thank you, J.J.
"Governor Murphy subpoenaed about sheltering illegals."
King Philip the Unaccountable will make the most of it. He's touring thunderstorm damage in the North this morning. (His constituents in the center and southern regions of the state largely believe he has forgotten about them during his reign.)
His time as Governor is up in November, but watch his & his wife's next acts.
Speaking of NJ, it's actively addressing (News) Media Literacy education for all K-12 students, both through schools and various orgs. providing resources and training, i.e., WHYY to host a media literacy class at Ulysses S. Grant Intermediate School, May 31, 2025.
Of course, media literacy education has been available through community and state colleges for some years.
New Jersey is one of more than 20 States in the Union that have taken legislative action to elevate K-12 media literacy education. As is routine, each of the states makes its goals and designs its curriculum.
There are several established non-profits that can be depended upon to assist those states 'teach' how to read the news.
"Governor Murphy subpoenaed about sheltering illegals."
King Philip the Unaccountable will make the most of it. He's touring thunderstorm damage in the North this morning. (His constituents in the center and southern regions of the state largely believe he has forgotten about them during his reign.)
His time as Governor is up in November, but watch his & his wife's next acts.
Speaking of NJ, it's actively addressing (News) Media Literacy education for all K-12 students, both through schools and various orgs. providing resources and training, i.e., WHYY to host a media literacy class at Ulysses S. Grant Intermediate School, May 31, 2025.
Of course, media literacy education has been available through community and state colleges for some years.
New Jersey is one of more than 20 States in the Union that have taken legislative action to elevate K-12 media literacy education. As is routine, each of the states makes its goals and designs its curriculum.
There are several established non-profits that can be depended upon to assist those states 'teach' how to read the news.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 15, 2025 11:34 AM (NFX2v)
392
NY Post, 'Gavin Newsom is a craven opportunist, as his — and other Dems’ — attack on JD Vance at Disneyland shows,' Jul 14, 2025
(Jane Fleming Kleeb) "She crossed paths with the vice-president, who was holding his 5-year-old son, Vivek, and thought it prudent to scream at him like an over-served sports fan in the cheap seats."
DNC official Jane Fleming Kleeb a Star! No, she was just a loud mouth in the crowd at Disney World and an embarrassment to herself yelling towards 'Mr. Vice President!'
--
But more of loud Jane who succeeded Jim Martin as ASDC president:
Jane Fleming Kleeb🇺🇸thank you Pres. Biden
@janekleeb
We are in Vegas for @TheDemocrats
@DemStateParties Chairs and Executive Directors training...yes I forced
@TheCD2Elector to stand for a pic after her presentation on best practices for SEC + SCC relationships. We are proud of our agenda packets and info all online: nebraska democrats org party
Jul 14, 2025
Quite a crowd in the accompanying pictures.
--
Appearing in the AoSHQ Headline column:
USA Today, June 30, 2025
(Nebraska)GOP Rep. Don Bacon, who represents key swing district, won't seek reelection in 2026
🤔
Director at Morgan Beef, Scott Kleeb
(Jane Fleming Kleeb) "She crossed paths with the vice-president, who was holding his 5-year-old son, Vivek, and thought it prudent to scream at him like an over-served sports fan in the cheap seats."
DNC official Jane Fleming Kleeb a Star! No, she was just a loud mouth in the crowd at Disney World and an embarrassment to herself yelling towards 'Mr. Vice President!'
--
But more of loud Jane who succeeded Jim Martin as ASDC president:
Jane Fleming Kleeb🇺🇸thank you Pres. Biden
@janekleeb
We are in Vegas for @TheDemocrats
@DemStateParties Chairs and Executive Directors training...yes I forced
@TheCD2Elector to stand for a pic after her presentation on best practices for SEC + SCC relationships. We are proud of our agenda packets and info all online: nebraska democrats org party
Jul 14, 2025
Quite a crowd in the accompanying pictures.
--
Appearing in the AoSHQ Headline column:
USA Today, June 30, 2025
(Nebraska)GOP Rep. Don Bacon, who represents key swing district, won't seek reelection in 2026
🤔
Director at Morgan Beef, Scott Kleeb
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 15, 2025 11:34 AM (NFX2v)
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"There are several established non-profits that can be depended upon to assist those states 'teach' how to read the news.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 15, 2025 11:34 A"
meh, first they need to teach 'em how to read at all ...
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 15, 2025 11:34 A"
meh, first they need to teach 'em how to read at all ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 12:26 PM (dKEEs)
394
"Why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison if there is no list of clients to speak of?"
The trial documents are right there. Has anybody ever gone and actually looked at them?
Maxwell's "client list" had one person on it: Epstein. That's what put her in jail.
https://tinyurl.com/mrx5v22t
The trial documents are right there. Has anybody ever gone and actually looked at them?
Maxwell's "client list" had one person on it: Epstein. That's what put her in jail.
https://tinyurl.com/mrx5v22t
Posted by: MartynWW at July 15, 2025 01:12 PM (vXpHP)
395
"Obama crawling out of his hole to exhort the Dems toward greater violence..."
Above My Paygrade-Gotta Have A Little Black Humor-Could Have Been My Son-Don't Get On Your High Horse-After My Election I Have More Flexibility-My Muslim Faith-Just a Guy In The Neighborhood- so how does Barry afford 4 "holes" in 4 states, delivering the goods for The Ones We've Been Waiting For?
The rioters draw their meager paychecks, travel fare and bricks from Fundamental Transformation-We Are The World-ers, but Barry wows us bitter clingers by selling amazing books wirh fictional scenarios of struggle and poverty, struts leg-tingle pants creases, dazzling smiles and sun glasses on $$$ speaking tours like a rock star...oh, yeah: Sarah Adams said that Barry was in Las Vegas visiting Beyonce and Jay Z during the Benghazi attacks. https://tinyurl.com/3chj5ndm
Being Unburdened By What Has Been in 2012, an adoring and *totally not* compromised media decided we didn't need to know that...they were busy pertecking Demacracie n' shitt.
Above My Paygrade-Gotta Have A Little Black Humor-Could Have Been My Son-Don't Get On Your High Horse-After My Election I Have More Flexibility-My Muslim Faith-Just a Guy In The Neighborhood- so how does Barry afford 4 "holes" in 4 states, delivering the goods for The Ones We've Been Waiting For?
The rioters draw their meager paychecks, travel fare and bricks from Fundamental Transformation-We Are The World-ers, but Barry wows us bitter clingers by selling amazing books wirh fictional scenarios of struggle and poverty, struts leg-tingle pants creases, dazzling smiles and sun glasses on $$$ speaking tours like a rock star...oh, yeah: Sarah Adams said that Barry was in Las Vegas visiting Beyonce and Jay Z during the Benghazi attacks. https://tinyurl.com/3chj5ndm
Being Unburdened By What Has Been in 2012, an adoring and *totally not* compromised media decided we didn't need to know that...they were busy pertecking Demacracie n' shitt.
Posted by: ju at July 15, 2025 02:30 PM (vgX6l)
Daily Tech News 15 July 2025
Top Story
- Cognition AI just bought Windsurf for $NAN. (New York Times)
This comes after Google hired away key staff and then paid $2.4 billion to license the company's technology, which comes after OpenAI offered $3 billion to buy the company outright.
- Speaking of AI, Grok is currently acting like a split-brain patient. It swears it can see your avatar image, but if you ask it to draw something similar it always draws a twenty-something man in a tee-shirt and jacket standing by a tree.
If you describe your avatar it will accept that, and then insist it could always see that.
Tech News
- Speaking of which, Google Gemini just lost a chess match with an Atari 2600 from the Ordovician Era. (Tom's Hardware)
The Atari 2600 had 128 bytes of RAM.
That is not a typo.
- Apple is facing calls to focus on AI after losing $640 billion in market value because it's not doing retarded shit. (Yahoo)
Ugh.
- Just 0.1% of users shared 80% of fake news. (Science Direct)
Mostly CNN and MSNBC.
- If you always wanted Sharp X68000 you can now buy one, sort of. (Notebook Check)
It even comes pre-shrunk for your inconvenience.
Musical Interlude
Disclaimer: Bleep the bleeping bleep.
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BOING!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 04:48 AM (3447G)
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w00t
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 04:49 AM (aURVT)
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I'm sure there's a justified excuse.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 04:50 AM (3447G)
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Congratulations, Biden's Dog!
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 04:50 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 04:51 AM (3447G)
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To answer Fen from the ONT:
IMO, no registration is what makes this place unique. It's not just the comments, which are good, it's the socks that sometimes go with those comments which makes them hilarious. On the other hand, the no registration allows the trolls to do their troll thing.
Honestly, I'd rather suffer trolls than have registration. Every site I've been on that registered went downhill.
IMO, no registration is what makes this place unique. It's not just the comments, which are good, it's the socks that sometimes go with those comments which makes them hilarious. On the other hand, the no registration allows the trolls to do their troll thing.
Honestly, I'd rather suffer trolls than have registration. Every site I've been on that registered went downhill.
Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 04:53 AM (gKDq2)
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G'morning, all!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 15, 2025 04:54 AM (a1415)
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Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 04:53 AM (gKDq2)
Hi, Rick
I appreciate that point of view. It just seems to me that if someone is regularly banned they'd go someplace else or start their own blog.
Hi, Rick
I appreciate that point of view. It just seems to me that if someone is regularly banned they'd go someplace else or start their own blog.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 04:55 AM (2GCMq)
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Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. 72 dark degrees here at Stately Poppins Manor as I work and wait for the sun to rise. It's supposed to be in the 90s and humid all week, and as I have to also work all week, it's going to be rough. I just tell myself that I have seven more months to go.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 04:58 AM (Dg2sF)
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Talk Talk - It's My Life
There are two versions of the video for "It's My Life". The first, envisioned by director Tim Pope as a statement against the banality of lip-synching, consists almost entirely of footage from the 1979 BBC wildlife documentary Life on Earth, interspersed with shots of Talk Talk lead singer Mark Hollis standing in various places throughout the London Zoo. Hollis deliberately avoids performing to the camera: He keeps his hands in his coat pockets and his mouth is taped shut,[9][10] the latter often obscured by hand-drawn animated lines.... (Wikipedia)
There are two versions of the video for "It's My Life". The first, envisioned by director Tim Pope as a statement against the banality of lip-synching, consists almost entirely of footage from the 1979 BBC wildlife documentary Life on Earth, interspersed with shots of Talk Talk lead singer Mark Hollis standing in various places throughout the London Zoo. Hollis deliberately avoids performing to the camera: He keeps his hands in his coat pockets and his mouth is taped shut,[9][10] the latter often obscured by hand-drawn animated lines.... (Wikipedia)
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 04:58 AM (aURVT)
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Why would anyone even bother to acknowledge any troll?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 04:59 AM (HFcKg)
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I didn't spot any otters in the video, but I mighta missed 'em.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:00 AM (aURVT)
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German backpacker lost in Australian Outback and rescued after days thanks the Australian people who rescued her . I think if I were a woman and from out of the country I would not go backpacking by myself in the Outback, but sheseems like a nice young woman and I'm glad she's o.k.:
Sunny Skyz site:
https://tinyurl.com/4pcds2pp
Sunny Skyz site:
https://tinyurl.com/4pcds2pp
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:01 AM (2GCMq)
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Mark Hollis of Talk Talk, one of the underrated great singer songwiters of his time.
Posted by: Bob at July 15, 2025 05:03 AM (WbcL6)
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:05 AM (aURVT)
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... and then some.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:05 AM (aURVT)
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Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 04:59 AM (HFcKg)
Because he has a long history here , occasionally makes smart interesting comments and is conservative Other people speak to him as well and then get fed up. But yes, it's probably a good idea to ignore the man of many handles.
Because he has a long history here , occasionally makes smart interesting comments and is conservative Other people speak to him as well and then get fed up. But yes, it's probably a good idea to ignore the man of many handles.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:06 AM (2GCMq)
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But yes, it's probably a good idea to ignore the man of many handles.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:06 AM (2GCMq)
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/must lose hip weight
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:06 AM (2GCMq)
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/must lose hip weight
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 05:07 AM (3447G)
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I appreciate that point of view. It just seems to me that if someone is regularly banned they'd go someplace else or start their own blog.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 04:55 AM (2GCMq)
'Look at me' attention seekers gotta 'look at me' attention-seek.
One of the few things I've learned in my old age, other than 'strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government', is ignore them. Any response feeds them in some warped psycho way.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 04:55 AM (2GCMq)
'Look at me' attention seekers gotta 'look at me' attention-seek.
One of the few things I've learned in my old age, other than 'strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government', is ignore them. Any response feeds them in some warped psycho way.
Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 05:09 AM (gKDq2)
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RickZ, you get it.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 05:12 AM (HFcKg)
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I like this devotional . I had never really thought about Jesus praying for us individually. Scripture is Luke 22:28-32:
https://tinyurl.com/427ve2ps
https://tinyurl.com/427ve2ps
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:12 AM (2GCMq)
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I'd rather suffer trolls than have registration.
Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 04:53 AM (gKDq2)
Except...you don't have to suffer them. It's the cobloggers and the moderators who have to suffer them.
Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 04:53 AM (gKDq2)
Except...you don't have to suffer them. It's the cobloggers and the moderators who have to suffer them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:13 AM (VTAje)
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It just seems to me that if someone is regularly banned they'd go someplace else or start their own blog.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 04:55 AM (2GCMq)
But you and others acknowledge their presence and respond to them, even though you have been asked not to.
That's why they come back.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 04:55 AM (2GCMq)
But you and others acknowledge their presence and respond to them, even though you have been asked not to.
That's why they come back.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:17 AM (VTAje)
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MPPPP look what I found!
https://nitter.net/Suzanne08253534
Photos of early film babes.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:05 AM (aURVT)
Very nice, thank you! And Jane Russell can spank me with that hairbrush any time.
https://nitter.net/Suzanne08253534
Photos of early film babes.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:05 AM (aURVT)
Very nice, thank you! And Jane Russell can spank me with that hairbrush any time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM (Dg2sF)
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Ok. CBD. I will cease to answer him. The thing is he's obviously in a lot of personal pain so I hope he finds some competent help.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM (2GCMq)
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That's why they come back.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:17 AM (VTAje)
Now give the others who argue with him the same advice- personally.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:17 AM (VTAje)
Now give the others who argue with him the same advice- personally.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:20 AM (2GCMq)
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Currently snacking on bakery-made oatmeal cookies that I have sandwiched around peanut butter. Yum.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:20 AM (aURVT)
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Good morning! It’s another day in travel paradise.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 15, 2025 05:20 AM (kR/iT)
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Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 04:59 AM (HFcKg)
Ben Had, I tried e-mailing you through the sidebar, but I couldn't get through. If you still have my e-mail, would you please send me details on the Texas meetup?
Ben Had, I tried e-mailing you through the sidebar, but I couldn't get through. If you still have my e-mail, would you please send me details on the Texas meetup?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 05:20 AM (Dg2sF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:22 AM (2GCMq)
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The thing is he's obviously in a lot of personal pain so I hope he finds some competent help.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM (2GCMq)
Amateur psychology. You have no understanding of what trolls are.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM (2GCMq)
Amateur psychology. You have no understanding of what trolls are.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:23 AM (VTAje)
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MP 4 ,I will very gladly do so.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 05:24 AM (HFcKg)
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24 Jane Russell can spank me with that hairbrush any time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM (Dg2sF)
My mother's hair, in her 20's, was called "a modified Veronica Lake." That photo of Veronica Lake (and others) match my Mom.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM (Dg2sF)
My mother's hair, in her 20's, was called "a modified Veronica Lake." That photo of Veronica Lake (and others) match my Mom.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:25 AM (aURVT)
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Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM (Dg2sF)
Hedy Lamarr! Wow.
Hedy Lamarr! Wow.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:25 AM (VTAje)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:23 AM (VTAje)
Please stop insulting me. Yes, he's a troll. He's also been talking about his anger with his family of origin and his wife and Yankees , etc for years and I actually do have a fair amount of experience in dealing with people with unresolved anger issues and loss.
I will now stop discussing this.
Please stop insulting me. Yes, he's a troll. He's also been talking about his anger with his family of origin and his wife and Yankees , etc for years and I actually do have a fair amount of experience in dealing with people with unresolved anger issues and loss.
I will now stop discussing this.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:28 AM (2GCMq)
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CBD, nice toilet presented in the morning art thread.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:34 AM (NXz8h)
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Hedy Lamarr! Wow.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:25 AM (VTAje)
That's HEDLEY!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 05:25 AM (VTAje)
That's HEDLEY!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 05:35 AM (Dg2sF)
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Where did Boulder Terlit Hobo end up?
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:35 AM (aURVT)
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Morning, one and all. The week is going to be busy outside of work on account of my wife having to housesit for friends while they are away at a Greyhound event in NY. I get to stay at home with our multiple guest dogs and live like a bachelor.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:37 AM (NR6c1)
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Hey, how about those TX Rangers? They really suck.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 05:38 AM (HFcKg)
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Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:37 AM (NR6c1)
That's nice of you to house sit. Have fun and no wild parties😉
That's nice of you to house sit. Have fun and no wild parties😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:39 AM (2GCMq)
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I get to stay at home with our multiple guest dogs and live like a bachelor.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:37 AM (NR6c1)
IMO, you're not really a bachelor with a pack of dogs around.
There's always something to do. And like a girlfriend/wife, they'll let you know, too.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:37 AM (NR6c1)
IMO, you're not really a bachelor with a pack of dogs around.
There's always something to do. And like a girlfriend/wife, they'll let you know, too.
Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 05:40 AM (gKDq2)
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39 friends ... away at a Greyhound event in NY
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:37 AM (NR6c1)
Real bus aficionados?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:37 AM (NR6c1)
Real bus aficionados?
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:44 AM (aURVT)
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Morning and evening to one and all,
Yesterday's surgery went well. I did not feel sleepy in the afternoon, so I hit the hay around nine last night. This morning I woke up feeling as though I'd torn a muscle at the operation point. A half-tab of oxycodone left over from my oral surgery some years ago has reduced it to an ache. I'll need to get a stronger Rx from the doctor, I guess, and I dread driving over there and the Target pharmacy But I have no one who can drive me, so . . .
Anyway! How is ever'body this fine Tiu's Day?
Yesterday's surgery went well. I did not feel sleepy in the afternoon, so I hit the hay around nine last night. This morning I woke up feeling as though I'd torn a muscle at the operation point. A half-tab of oxycodone left over from my oral surgery some years ago has reduced it to an ache. I'll need to get a stronger Rx from the doctor, I guess, and I dread driving over there and the Target pharmacy But I have no one who can drive me, so . . .
Anyway! How is ever'body this fine Tiu's Day?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 05:44 AM (omVj0)
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From the ONT: The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
In the John Byrne story, Superman's biological mother had the idea that since their son would grow up to be so powerful that he could be like a god on that world and teach them Kryptonian ways. I like that idea a bit better than what was being described there.
In the John Byrne story, Superman's biological mother had the idea that since their son would grow up to be so powerful that he could be like a god on that world and teach them Kryptonian ways. I like that idea a bit better than what was being described there.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:44 AM (NR6c1)
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Wolfus, some pharmacies deliver.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 05:46 AM (HFcKg)
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heh. A bunch of things to answer.
"That's nice of you to house sit. Have fun and no wild parties"
Or teach the dogs how to clean up.
"There's always something to do. And like a girlfriend/wife, they'll let you know, too."
Thankfully, what they want is naps and food. Very low maintenance breed.
"Real bus aficionados?"
The event is called "Grapehounds." Bunch of wineries, several vendors and a lot of dogs.
"That's nice of you to house sit. Have fun and no wild parties"
Or teach the dogs how to clean up.
"There's always something to do. And like a girlfriend/wife, they'll let you know, too."
Thankfully, what they want is naps and food. Very low maintenance breed.
"Real bus aficionados?"
The event is called "Grapehounds." Bunch of wineries, several vendors and a lot of dogs.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:47 AM (NR6c1)
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Lana Turner's entrance in "The Postman Always Rings Twice" remains an all-time favorite of mine.
https://is.gd/o4tIap
https://is.gd/o4tIap
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:48 AM (NXz8h)
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"Apple is facing calls to focus on AI after losing $640 billion in market value because it's not doing retarded shit. (Yahoo)
Ugh."
Idiots of the 'investor class' stampeding to the latest vibe crap. Stand Fast, Apple!
Ugh."
Idiots of the 'investor class' stampeding to the latest vibe crap. Stand Fast, Apple!
Posted by: Whiskey Mike at July 15, 2025 05:49 AM (l5vxg)
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48 Lana Turner's entrance in "The Postman Always Rings Twice" remains an all-time favorite of mine.
https://is.gd/o4tIap
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:48 AM (NXz8h)
WOW
https://is.gd/o4tIap
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:48 AM (NXz8h)
WOW
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:49 AM (aURVT)
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g'mornin', 'rons
g'mornin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 05:50 AM (tljrc)
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AltonJackson, Good morning.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 05:50 AM (HFcKg)
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48 Lana Turner's entrance in "The Postman Always Rings Twice" remains an all-time favorite of mine.
https://is.gd/o4tIap
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:48 AM (NXz8h)
Would hang.
https://is.gd/o4tIap
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:48 AM (NXz8h)
Would hang.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 05:50 AM (aURVT)
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Wolfus, some pharmacies deliver.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025
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True. But my surgeon, when I asked yesterday, said he couldn't phone the Rx in if I needed something stronger. I guess I have to call and go to his office. If I'm out there anyway, I might as well drive to the Target CVS, it's on the way home.
Doing better now; I guess the oxycodone still works. Naturally, given my history, I'm cautious about getting hooked on something. But this morning felt rough. If each morning for a while will be like this until I get some meds in me, I'm gonna dread waking up.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025
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True. But my surgeon, when I asked yesterday, said he couldn't phone the Rx in if I needed something stronger. I guess I have to call and go to his office. If I'm out there anyway, I might as well drive to the Target CVS, it's on the way home.
Doing better now; I guess the oxycodone still works. Naturally, given my history, I'm cautious about getting hooked on something. But this morning felt rough. If each morning for a while will be like this until I get some meds in me, I'm gonna dread waking up.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 05:51 AM (omVj0)
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We actually had several posters on here who said they enjoyed "Superman" and didn't hear any overtly woke messages. I'd probably go see it with the family because it sounds like a nice family thing to do.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:52 AM (2GCMq)
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g'mornin', Ben Had
g'mornin', Ben Had
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2025 05:52 AM (tljrc)
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Fen, I just read that article you posted about the German hiker.
She is luckier than she knows. I want to rant about the idiocy of going off by yourself in a strange location with no backup plan but I am grateful this story ended well.
She is luckier than she knows. I want to rant about the idiocy of going off by yourself in a strange location with no backup plan but I am grateful this story ended well.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:52 AM (NR6c1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:53 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 15, 2025 05:54 AM (PiwSw)
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The diner business in Postman reminds me: If you want a surprise from an actress of the 1950s, try Joan Collins (yes! Her!) as the alcoholic wife of Rick Jason in the low-budget, but somehow still effective, movie of Steinbeck's The Wayward Bus. The edition of the novel I have uses a still of Joan in the role on the cover.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 05:55 AM (omVj0)
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Morning, Tech Peeps
Posted by: fluffy at July 15, 2025 05:55 AM (AN2gy)
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Hey, how about those TX Rangers? They really suck.
Posted by: Ben Had
Posers. For real losing try on the Colorado Rockies and their 22 wins - 74 loses. They are on track to have the worst record in baseball since 1900. At the rate they're going they'll lose about 125 games.
Posted by: Ben Had
Posers. For real losing try on the Colorado Rockies and their 22 wins - 74 loses. They are on track to have the worst record in baseball since 1900. At the rate they're going they'll lose about 125 games.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:55 AM (NXz8h)
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Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:52 AM (NR6c1)
Yes, one frequently hears of these stories. I am affected by it as well because -and I think I shared this before - my father disappeared in the Canadian wilderness when I was a child and they never found his body.
Yes, one frequently hears of these stories. I am affected by it as well because -and I think I shared this before - my father disappeared in the Canadian wilderness when I was a child and they never found his body.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:56 AM (2GCMq)
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Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 05:47 AM (NR6c1)
Sorry. I was laughing at the word "grapehounds" not you.
Sorry. I was laughing at the word "grapehounds" not you.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:57 AM (2GCMq)
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>>> Mark Hollis of Talk Talk, one of the underrated great singer songwiters of his time.
Is that their only accessible hit song?
They pioneered a lot of new territory after this album.
I believe Tim Friese-Green produced an album for The Catherine Wheel later on.
Is that their only accessible hit song?
They pioneered a lot of new territory after this album.
I believe Tim Friese-Green produced an album for The Catherine Wheel later on.
Posted by: fluffy at July 15, 2025 06:00 AM (AN2gy)
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Good thoughts for Hadrian as he goes about dog show hell week.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 06:00 AM (HFcKg)
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Here is a video of Turner's iconic entrance from The Postman. For my money it's in the top two or three greatest scenes ever. Garfield's character, Frank Chambers, fate was set in that moment. You don't even need to see the rest of the movie. But you should.
https://youtu.be/86PipTFsgOM
https://youtu.be/86PipTFsgOM
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 06:02 AM (NXz8h)
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Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2025 06:00 AM (HFcKg
Yes indeed!
I love to hear about the dogs and dog shows. He's the only person I've known who did this and "heard from" at length.
Yes indeed!
I love to hear about the dogs and dog shows. He's the only person I've known who did this and "heard from" at length.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 06:03 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: fluffy at July 15, 2025 06:03 AM (AN2gy)
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oof. Sorry to hear it, Fen. And I wasn't offended about you laughing. I actually thought you were amused by the "I want naps and food" line.
As for Grapehounds, I loved going to the one in VA. We would visit 4-6 wineries and the dogs got to meet new friends. The picture I posted on the June 28th Pet Thread was taken during on the last day of one of them.
As for Grapehounds, I loved going to the one in VA. We would visit 4-6 wineries and the dogs got to meet new friends. The picture I posted on the June 28th Pet Thread was taken during on the last day of one of them.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 06:06 AM (NR6c1)
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In keeping with the theme of entitled millennials here is a related joke:
Reaching the end of a job interview, the human resources officer asked a young engineer fresh out of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, “and what starting salary are you looking for?” The engineer replies, “In the region of $125,000 a year, depending on the benefits package.”
The interviewer inquires, “Well, what would you say to a package of five weeks vacation, fourteen paid holidays, full medical and dental, company matching retirement fund to 50% of salary, and a company car leased every two years? Say, a red Corvette?” The engineer sits up straight and says, “Wow!! Are you kidding?” The interviewer replies, “Yeah, but you started it.”
Reaching the end of a job interview, the human resources officer asked a young engineer fresh out of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, “and what starting salary are you looking for?” The engineer replies, “In the region of $125,000 a year, depending on the benefits package.”
The interviewer inquires, “Well, what would you say to a package of five weeks vacation, fourteen paid holidays, full medical and dental, company matching retirement fund to 50% of salary, and a company car leased every two years? Say, a red Corvette?” The engineer sits up straight and says, “Wow!! Are you kidding?” The interviewer replies, “Yeah, but you started it.”
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 06:06 AM (2GCMq)
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"Naps and food" is amusing too. Grapehounds sounds like a good time, and I always appreciate the love and concern people on here express about their furry companions/friends.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 06:08 AM (2GCMq)
73
Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at July 15, 2025 06:09 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: fluffy at July 15, 2025 06:10 AM (AN2gy)
75
Posers. For real losing try on the Colorado Rockies and their 22 wins - 74 loses. They are on track to have the worst record in baseball since 1900. At the rate they're going they'll lose about 125 games.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:55 AM (NXz8h)
C'mon Colorado! You can do it!
Si se puede!
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 05:55 AM (NXz8h)
C'mon Colorado! You can do it!
Si se puede!
Posted by: !962 NYMets (40-120) at July 15, 2025 06:10 AM (gKDq2)
76
71: A good joke no matter what generation it's used on. -:-)
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 06:11 AM (NR6c1)
77
May you have a blessed day, everyone, and know that you are a blessing to others. Time for a walk . I'll have to miss "Blondi and the bombshells" ( ie. Pam Bondi, etc) show for today because of things to do.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 06:12 AM (2GCMq)
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Wolfus, I'm glad the surgery went well. Get as much rest as possible and be timely with your pain meds. I remember being very appreciative of them when I had my hernia repair.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 06:12 AM (NR6c1)
79
Is that their only accessible hit song?
This work?
Life's What You Make It
The Color of Spring 1986
Talk Talk
https://youtu.be/l3VqAsMXE7o
This work?
Life's What You Make It
The Color of Spring 1986
Talk Talk
https://youtu.be/l3VqAsMXE7o
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 06:15 AM (NXz8h)
80
Lana Turner's entrance in "The Postman Always Rings Twice" remains an all-time favorite of mine.
She was just sweet 16 in her first movie, 1937s They Won't Forget:
https://tinyurl.com/5n8uda7y
She was just sweet 16 in her first movie, 1937s They Won't Forget:
https://tinyurl.com/5n8uda7y
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 06:16 AM (Dg2sF)
81
Good morning, good citizens. It's always a pleasure to note your presence and wish you maximum benefit from your efforts, with concomitant grief for the leftwit fungi.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 15, 2025 06:16 AM (hKoQL)
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It's funny how I find myself
In love with you
If I could buy my reasoning
I'd pay to lose
One half won't do
And I've asked myself
How much do you
Commit yourself?
Oh, It's my life
I misheard "my reasoning" as "my razorblade."
It's funny how I find myself
In love with you
If I could buy my reasoning
I'd pay to lose
One half won't do
And I've asked myself
How much do you
Commit yourself?
Oh, It's my life
I misheard "my reasoning" as "my razorblade."
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 06:17 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 15, 2025 06:21 AM (XZ5S6)
84
>>> This work?
Life's What You Make It
The Color of Spring 1986
I guess that works. In my mind the album is a collection of songs leading to Time, It's Time.
Life's What You Make It
The Color of Spring 1986
I guess that works. In my mind the album is a collection of songs leading to Time, It's Time.
Posted by: fluffy at July 15, 2025 06:25 AM (AN2gy)
85
Pray for them. They may perish.
HEAT ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TODAY TO 10 PM PDT WEDNESDAY
* WHERE...Portions of northwest and west central Washington (aka Seattle)
* WHAT...Hot conditions with high temperatures in the 80s to low 90s today and 80s to mid 90s Wednesday. Low temperatures mostly in the low to mid 60s.
.
HEAT ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TODAY TO 10 PM PDT WEDNESDAY
* WHERE...Portions of northwest and west central Washington (aka Seattle)
* WHAT...Hot conditions with high temperatures in the 80s to low 90s today and 80s to mid 90s Wednesday. Low temperatures mostly in the low to mid 60s.
.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 06:26 AM (NXz8h)
86
Four decades ago, my wife and then child went on a one month vacation to visit family.
In my carpool to work, my colleague asks "How's your bachelorhood?" I replied "More like the priesthood."
In my carpool to work, my colleague asks "How's your bachelorhood?" I replied "More like the priesthood."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 15, 2025 06:29 AM (3Rpkk)
87
[blockquote]The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.[/blockquote]
(Eh. We'll see if that markup worked...)
Odd the advanced Kryptonites never learned about DNA and how that works.
(Eh. We'll see if that markup worked...)
Odd the advanced Kryptonites never learned about DNA and how that works.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 15, 2025 06:29 AM (oyXgq)
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* WHAT...Hot conditions with high temperatures in the 80s to low 90s today and 80s to mid 90s Wednesday. Low temperatures mostly in the low to mid 60s.
.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 06:26 AM (NXz8h)
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People up here are weather wimps.
.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 06:26 AM (NXz8h)
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People up here are weather wimps.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 15, 2025 06:30 AM (XZ5S6)
89
It didn't. So it goes.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 15, 2025 06:30 AM (oyXgq)
90
Four decades ago, my wife and then child went on a one month vacation to visit family.
In my carpool to work, my colleague asks "How's your bachelorhood?" I replied "More like the priesthood."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 15, 2025 06:29 AM (3Rpkk)
Back in the day, that used to be called a 'grass widower.' In fact, the idea of a wife and family on vacation while the husband stays home and perhaps plays around is the basic plot of the Marilyn Monroe movie The Seven Year Itch.
In my carpool to work, my colleague asks "How's your bachelorhood?" I replied "More like the priesthood."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 15, 2025 06:29 AM (3Rpkk)
Back in the day, that used to be called a 'grass widower.' In fact, the idea of a wife and family on vacation while the husband stays home and perhaps plays around is the basic plot of the Marilyn Monroe movie The Seven Year Itch.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 06:30 AM (Dg2sF)
91
Disclaimer: Bleep the bleeping bleep.
Reminds me of the Giraffe that got stuck in quicksand on an episode of Robot Chicken.
G'morning Horde.
Reminds me of the Giraffe that got stuck in quicksand on an episode of Robot Chicken.
G'morning Horde.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025 06:31 AM (O7YUW)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 06:31 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 06:40 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 06:42 AM (u82oZ)
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Mornin'
Got a tee time so see you all later! Maybe.
My sister let me know that John MacArthur died. He was 85 and had a variety of health issues so it's not a shocker. He ran the race and is now finished. God called him home.
Got a tee time so see you all later! Maybe.
My sister let me know that John MacArthur died. He was 85 and had a variety of health issues so it's not a shocker. He ran the race and is now finished. God called him home.
Posted by: Puddleglum, golfin' in Amish Country at July 15, 2025 06:45 AM (uGaBv)
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Wolfus, I'm glad the surgery went well. Get as much rest as possible and be timely with your pain meds. I remember being very appreciative of them when I had my hernia repair.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025
***
Thanks, NR. The doctor's office doesn't open until 9, so I'll leave about 8:40. I could call, but then, if they can't call the Rx in as he said, I'll still have to go there and then the pharmacy.
I kept saying I don't do well with pain, and they kept saying Tramadol worked for most people. I guess I ain't most people.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025
***
Thanks, NR. The doctor's office doesn't open until 9, so I'll leave about 8:40. I could call, but then, if they can't call the Rx in as he said, I'll still have to go there and then the pharmacy.
I kept saying I don't do well with pain, and they kept saying Tramadol worked for most people. I guess I ain't most people.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 06:45 AM (omVj0)
97
Back in the day, that used to be called a 'grass widower.' In fact, the idea of a wife and family on vacation while the husband stays home and perhaps plays around is the basic plot of the Marilyn Monroe movie The Seven Year Itch.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 06:30 AM (Dg2sF)
Next month, Her Majesty takes a three-week trip, first Denver, then Minneapolis, then Iowa. And that's not even the longest stretch she's been gone. So I'm familiar with the phenomenon, though not the temptation to play around.
Back in the day, that used to be called a 'grass widower.' In fact, the idea of a wife and family on vacation while the husband stays home and perhaps plays around is the basic plot of the Marilyn Monroe movie The Seven Year Itch.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 06:30 AM (Dg2sF)
Next month, Her Majesty takes a three-week trip, first Denver, then Minneapolis, then Iowa. And that's not even the longest stretch she's been gone. So I'm familiar with the phenomenon, though not the temptation to play around.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2025 06:50 AM (HZi96)
98
Wolfus update from yesterday says he's home and resting.
You People probably know more about this than I.
Wolfus update from yesterday says he's home and resting.
You People probably know more about this than I.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 06:52 AM (N9VmQ)
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I kept saying I don't do well with pain, and they kept saying Tramadol worked for most people. I guess I ain't most people.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 06:45 AM (omVj0)
I had two rounds of hernia surgery and both went off with minimum discomfort. Although after the first one, I tried going back to the office a couple of days later and learned I couldn't do that.
I kept saying I don't do well with pain, and they kept saying Tramadol worked for most people. I guess I ain't most people.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 06:45 AM (omVj0)
I had two rounds of hernia surgery and both went off with minimum discomfort. Although after the first one, I tried going back to the office a couple of days later and learned I couldn't do that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2025 06:52 AM (HZi96)
100
100
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 06:53 AM (aURVT)
101
@87/Richard Cranium: "(Eh. We'll see if that markup worked...)"
This reminds me:
@Pixy: Is there a list of tags we mere mortals can use to format our text, and if so, could you link to it please?
This reminds me:
@Pixy: Is there a list of tags we mere mortals can use to format our text, and if so, could you link to it please?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025 06:53 AM (O7YUW)
102
Mornin' fags.
Quick Trivia:
Who Was Born....
Estelle Caro Eggleston on October 1, 1938.
Don't google it. Just guess.
Mornin' fags.
Quick Trivia:
Who Was Born....
Estelle Caro Eggleston on October 1, 1938.
Don't google it. Just guess.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 06:53 AM (N9VmQ)
103
Nicely done m. I'm glad I didn't accidentally torpedo your efforts with that last comment about tags.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025 06:54 AM (O7YUW)
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102
Mornin' fags.
Quick Trivia:
Who Was Born....
Estelle Caro Eggleston on October 1, 1938.
Don't google it. Just guess.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 06:53 AM (N9VmQ)
Hillary!
Mornin' fags.
Quick Trivia:
Who Was Born....
Estelle Caro Eggleston on October 1, 1938.
Don't google it. Just guess.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 06:53 AM (N9VmQ)
Hillary!
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 06:54 AM (aURVT)
105
mornin yall
"NASA has detected a mysterious signal coming from a distant super-Earth called TOI-1846 b, a planet nearly twice Earth's size and four times as heavy"
Probably reruns.
"NASA has detected a mysterious signal coming from a distant super-Earth called TOI-1846 b, a planet nearly twice Earth's size and four times as heavy"
Probably reruns.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 06:55 AM (vFG9F)
106
103 Nicely done m. I'm glad I didn't accidentally torpedo your efforts with that last comment about tags.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025 06:54 AM (O7YUW)
For some values of "accidentally"!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025 06:54 AM (O7YUW)
For some values of "accidentally"!
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 06:56 AM (aURVT)
107
36 CBD, nice toilet presented in the morning art thread.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
*stares at Alteria Piligrim in shocked disbelief *
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
*stares at Alteria Piligrim in shocked disbelief *
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 06:56 AM (eZ5tL)
108
"And Jane Russell can spank me with that hairbrush any time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM"
Cross your heart?
https://youtu.be/3Hskk9orbjs
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 05:19 AM"
Cross your heart?
https://youtu.be/3Hskk9orbjs
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 15, 2025 06:57 AM (XQo4F)
109
I had two rounds of hernia surgery and both went off with minimum discomfort. Although after the first one, I tried going back to the office a couple of days later and learned I couldn't do that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2025
***
Most of the people I talked to who'd had such surgery said they were fine after a couple of days and went back to work in a week. What I was feeling this morning is not in line with that. I'm okay sitting down, okay standing. It's going from one state to the other that kills me.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2025
***
Most of the people I talked to who'd had such surgery said they were fine after a couple of days and went back to work in a week. What I was feeling this morning is not in line with that. I'm okay sitting down, okay standing. It's going from one state to the other that kills me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 06:58 AM (omVj0)
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@Pixy: Is there a list of tags we mere mortals can use to format our text, and if so, could you link to it please?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
I don't remember where I got this but I think I got it from a comment.
https://is.gd/bNl0dW
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
I don't remember where I got this but I think I got it from a comment.
https://is.gd/bNl0dW
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 06:58 AM (NXz8h)
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Doing Italiacs here is quite simple. Html simple. Like 1999 simple.
Here's how you do italians to "quote" someone:
brackets [ ] with a small letter i in them, and to close the italiacs, you do the same but add a slash, / , before the letter i.
Doing Italiacs here is quite simple. Html simple. Like 1999 simple.
Here's how you do italians to "quote" someone:
brackets [ ] with a small letter i in them, and to close the italiacs, you do the same but add a slash, / , before the letter i.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 06:58 AM (N9VmQ)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 15, 2025 06:58 AM (5hfjS)
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@Wolfus: I'm glad your surgery went well! May the painful portion of the recovery period be very short.
Call your doctor's office and explain the pain level and request they fax a prescription to your desired pharmacy. Also, call the pharmacy and ask if they have a delivery option (they probably do.) You shouldn't have to drive right after surgery.
Call your doctor's office and explain the pain level and request they fax a prescription to your desired pharmacy. Also, call the pharmacy and ask if they have a delivery option (they probably do.) You shouldn't have to drive right after surgery.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025 06:58 AM (O7YUW)
114
You talking about my wife?
You want a piece of me?
You want a piece of me?
Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 15, 2025 06:58 AM (XQo4F)
115
my father disappeared in the Canadian wilderness when I was a child and they never found his body.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:56 AM (2GCMq)
Fenelon I am so sorry.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 05:56 AM (2GCMq)
Fenelon I am so sorry.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 06:59 AM (eZ5tL)
116
CBD, nice toilet presented in the morning art thread.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
*stares at Alteria Piligrim in shocked disbelief *
Posted by: vmom
I also like Yoko Ono's singing.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
*stares at Alteria Piligrim in shocked disbelief *
Posted by: vmom
I also like Yoko Ono's singing.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 06:59 AM (NXz8h)
117
Quick Trivia:
Who Was Born....
Estelle Caro Eggleston on October 1, 1938.
Don't google it. Just guess.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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Since her name came up, I'd guess Lana Turner?
Who Was Born....
Estelle Caro Eggleston on October 1, 1938.
Don't google it. Just guess.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
***
Since her name came up, I'd guess Lana Turner?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:00 AM (omVj0)
118
@Pixy: Is there a list of tags we mere mortals can use to format our text, and if so, could you link to it please?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
Bring back the choo-choos and the holiday light strings in the signature lines!
Just kidding -- those were a disaster
@Pixy: Is there a list of tags we mere mortals can use to format our text, and if so, could you link to it please?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
Bring back the choo-choos and the holiday light strings in the signature lines!
Just kidding -- those were a disaster
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:00 AM (xG4kz)
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"Here's how you do italians to "quote" someone:
brackets [ ] with a small letter i in them, and to close the italiacs, you do the same but add a slash, / , before the letter i."
This is like giving firecrackers and a lighter to a toddler.
brackets [ ] with a small letter i in them, and to close the italiacs, you do the same but add a slash, / , before the letter i."
This is like giving firecrackers and a lighter to a toddler.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 07:01 AM (vFG9F)
120
Since her name came up, I'd guess Lana Turner?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025
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Wait, no. Lana was in Postman in 1946; she'd have been eight years old. Guess not.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025
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Wait, no. Lana was in Postman in 1946; she'd have been eight years old. Guess not.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:01 AM (omVj0)
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***
Since her name came up, I'd guess Lana Turner?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Close, but no!
Close, as in you guessed the right sex.
***
Since her name came up, I'd guess Lana Turner?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Close, but no!
Close, as in you guessed the right sex.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:01 AM (N9VmQ)
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Estel Parsons
Estel Parsons
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:01 AM (xG4kz)
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Estelle
Estelle
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:02 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:02 AM (N9VmQ)
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 07:02 AM (fV+MH)
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 07:02 AM (QB+5g)
127
test
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:03 AM (aURVT)
128
We must all suffer after surgery for the sake of the addicts on the streets or something
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 07:04 AM (eZ5tL)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:04 AM (xG4kz)
130
Call your doctor's office and explain the pain level and request they fax a prescription to your desired pharmacy. Also, call the pharmacy and ask if they have a delivery option (they probably do.) You shouldn't have to drive right after surgery.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025
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That's what I asked yesterday; he said he couldn't call it in. Maybe he meant right then? I'll try what you suggest. The surgery was on the right, and I use that leg, of course, most during driving. But we're talking about a controlled substance. Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025
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That's what I asked yesterday; he said he couldn't call it in. Maybe he meant right then? I'll try what you suggest. The surgery was on the right, and I use that leg, of course, most during driving. But we're talking about a controlled substance. Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:04 AM (omVj0)
131
Thanks, Alteria Pilgram! Thanks, Sherlock Soothsayer! Thanks, mindfulwebworker!
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:05 AM (aURVT)
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Trolls are attention whores, compensating for being abject failures IRL.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 07:05 AM (g47mK)
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Tramadol is the baby aspirin of pain killers.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025
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I think I'm finding that out.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025
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I think I'm finding that out.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:06 AM (omVj0)
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She was in such films as The Poseidon Adventure as Ernie Borgnine's wife, The Nutty Professor, and Girls Girls Girls.
She was in such films as The Poseidon Adventure as Ernie Borgnine's wife, The Nutty Professor, and Girls Girls Girls.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:06 AM (N9VmQ)
135
*stares at Alteria Piligrim in shocked disbelief *
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 06:56 AM (eZ5tL)
Don't criticize his taste!
Chacun a son gout!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 06:56 AM (eZ5tL)
Don't criticize his taste!
Chacun a son gout!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 07:07 AM (nFkGo)
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She was in such films as The Poseidon Adventure as Ernie Borgnine's wife, The Nutty Professor, and Girls Girls Girls.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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Shelley Winters?
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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Shelley Winters?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:08 AM (omVj0)
137
Not Shelly Winters, but I guess you're getting warmer.
Not Shelly Winters, but I guess you're getting warmer.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:08 AM (N9VmQ)
138
I feel for you Wolfus.
When I had my hernia surgery decades ago I had a prescription for Percocet and then a refill after that.
The docs have gotten cautious to the point of insanity over prescribing pain medications after the OxyContin epidemic.
They went from handing out the pills like candy to making everybody a potential addict and guarding the stuff like it’s plutonium in the space of a decade.
I’d think a hernia operation would warrant the strong stuff automatically.
When I had my hernia surgery decades ago I had a prescription for Percocet and then a refill after that.
The docs have gotten cautious to the point of insanity over prescribing pain medications after the OxyContin epidemic.
They went from handing out the pills like candy to making everybody a potential addict and guarding the stuff like it’s plutonium in the space of a decade.
I’d think a hernia operation would warrant the strong stuff automatically.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 07:09 AM (6ydKt)
139
Julie Newmar.
(Wistfully)
(Wistfully)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 15, 2025 07:09 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 07:09 AM (nFkGo)
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Tramadol is the baby aspirin of pain killers.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025
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I think I'm finding that out.
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Tramadol relaxes me. It does nothing much for pain. Strangely enough, I get relaxed, but it keeps me stone cold awake. Calling it the baby aspirin of pain killers is a good description. At least for me...
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025
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I think I'm finding that out.
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Tramadol relaxes me. It does nothing much for pain. Strangely enough, I get relaxed, but it keeps me stone cold awake. Calling it the baby aspirin of pain killers is a good description. At least for me...
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 07:09 AM (qBdHI)
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Not Shelly Winters, but I guess you're getting warmer.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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"What *are* shelley winters, anyway?"
(-- Jean Kerr)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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"What *are* shelley winters, anyway?"
(-- Jean Kerr)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:10 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 07:10 AM (eZ5tL)
144
Stella Stevens
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 07:11 AM (AOsQT)
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Okay, I looked it up from your hint, Sherlock S. Should I come right out with it, or is having looked up the hint cheating?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:11 AM (omVj0)
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Stella !!
Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 07:11 AM (fV+MH)
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Stella Stevens
Posted by: Don Black
You looked it up.
That's okay -- no one was going to get it.
Stella Stevens
Posted by: Don Black
You looked it up.
That's okay -- no one was going to get it.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:12 AM (N9VmQ)
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Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Doctors can phone in Rx to pharmacies in Delaware, even for opioids.
If someone who is not you picks it up, they have to show ID and the pharmacy needs to know that person's relationship to you.
Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Doctors can phone in Rx to pharmacies in Delaware, even for opioids.
If someone who is not you picks it up, they have to show ID and the pharmacy needs to know that person's relationship to you.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:12 AM (xG4kz)
149
Jayne Mansfield.
Posted by: Feverishly trying to make it a boob thread at July 15, 2025 07:13 AM (XQo4F)
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hey went from handing out the pills like candy to making everybody a potential addict and guarding the stuff like it’s plutonium in the space of a decade.
I’d think a hernia operation would warrant the strong stuff automatically.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025
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I made the mistake of saying, as a recovering alcoholic, I didn't want to get into anything I might get addicted to. But pills were never my thing; when I have taken real stuff for pain, after oral surgery for instance, as soon as the pain stopped (a day or two), I stopped the pills.
I should have said, "Gimme the real drugs."
I’d think a hernia operation would warrant the strong stuff automatically.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025
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I made the mistake of saying, as a recovering alcoholic, I didn't want to get into anything I might get addicted to. But pills were never my thing; when I have taken real stuff for pain, after oral surgery for instance, as soon as the pain stopped (a day or two), I stopped the pills.
I should have said, "Gimme the real drugs."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:14 AM (omVj0)
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@110/Alteria Pilgram:
Thanks for that! I now have a fourth closure tag added to the end of my name to help ensure I avoid "the barrel".
Thanks for that! I now have a fourth closure tag added to the end of my name to help ensure I avoid "the barrel".
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025 07:14 AM (O7YUW)
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Julie Newmar was on an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies last night. She played a Swedish actress that was staying with the Clampetts to learn to talk like a hillbilly.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 07:14 AM (vFG9F)
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Shelly Winters was really cute in Winchester 73.
I guess she never grew her hair long, because even in that movie they had a fake ponytail running down her back from that 50s-style short hair she had her entire career.
I guess she never grew her hair long, because even in that movie they had a fake ponytail running down her back from that 50s-style short hair she had her entire career.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 07:14 AM (6ydKt)
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>You looked it up.
That's okay -- no one was going to get it.
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No, because I know things, being over 29
That's okay -- no one was going to get it.
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No, because I know things, being over 29
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 07:14 AM (AOsQT)
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My sister let me know that John MacArthur died.
Since 1969. Defied the CoViD-1984 lockdowns. Created a seminary whose graduates cover the nation's pulpits.
Redefined how pulpit teaching is done by an interesting mix of history, languages, scene setting, types, scholarly views and personal interpretation taught in such a way where it keeps the listener's interest for as long as is necessary.
Would spend a month on a couple of NT passages if necessary to wring out as much truth as can be found.
We may differ on eschatology, but JohnnyMac knows better now.
Since 1969. Defied the CoViD-1984 lockdowns. Created a seminary whose graduates cover the nation's pulpits.
Redefined how pulpit teaching is done by an interesting mix of history, languages, scene setting, types, scholarly views and personal interpretation taught in such a way where it keeps the listener's interest for as long as is necessary.
Would spend a month on a couple of NT passages if necessary to wring out as much truth as can be found.
We may differ on eschatology, but JohnnyMac knows better now.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 15, 2025 07:14 AM (a4flb)
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135 Chacun a son gout!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 07:07 AM (nFkGo)
De gustibus non est disputandum!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 07:07 AM (nFkGo)
De gustibus non est disputandum!
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:15 AM (aURVT)
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Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Doctors can phone in Rx to pharmacies in Delaware, even for opioids.
If someone who is not you picks it up, they have to show ID and the pharmacy needs to know that person's relationship to you.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025
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This, unfortunately, is Lousy-ana, which is crazy on so many things anyway.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Doctors can phone in Rx to pharmacies in Delaware, even for opioids.
If someone who is not you picks it up, they have to show ID and the pharmacy needs to know that person's relationship to you.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025
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This, unfortunately, is Lousy-ana, which is crazy on so many things anyway.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:15 AM (omVj0)
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Mark Hollis' solo album is crap.
It's like he got bored while composing every single song and just doodled around to finish it.
Very disappointing and not surprisingly his last.
It's like he got bored while composing every single song and just doodled around to finish it.
Very disappointing and not surprisingly his last.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2025 07:15 AM (1R0Vg)
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Estelle Costanza.
Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 15, 2025 07:15 AM (r/wv3)
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Wolfus, you likely aren’t supposed to be driving. If you can get a written script for something like oxycodone, you really aren’t supposed to be driving…get someone to drive you if at all possible.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 15, 2025 07:16 AM (K45Rj)
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Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
There are undocumented pharmacists out there that can deliver what you need right to your door. The caveat is that the providence of the drug itself might be sketchy.
There are undocumented pharmacists out there that can deliver what you need right to your door. The caveat is that the providence of the drug itself might be sketchy.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 15, 2025 07:17 AM (a4flb)
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Thanks for that! I now have a fourth closure tag added to the end of my name to help ensure I avoid "the barrel".
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025
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I have the tags for bold, italics, and strikethrough in my signature line. I rarely use something like underline.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 15, 2025
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I have the tags for bold, italics, and strikethrough in my signature line. I rarely use something like underline.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:18 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 15, 2025 07:18 AM (XQo4F)
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That's what I asked yesterday; he said he couldn't call it in. Maybe he meant right then? I'll try what you suggest. The surgery was on the right, and I use that leg, of course, most during driving. But we're talking about a controlled substance. Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
The surgeon can't send the prescription via the internet? That how my doc does it. Of course state laws vary I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
The surgeon can't send the prescription via the internet? That how my doc does it. Of course state laws vary I guess.
Posted by: Tuna at July 15, 2025 07:18 AM (lJ0H4)
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Chores.
Got only a little time left for the celebration of my late wife's life, and a lot to do.
Have a wonderful day, everyone.
May we continue, as kids say, to ratio the uncomprehending leftists.
Got only a little time left for the celebration of my late wife's life, and a lot to do.
Have a wonderful day, everyone.
May we continue, as kids say, to ratio the uncomprehending leftists.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 07:19 AM (u82oZ)
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Wolfus, you likely aren’t supposed to be driving. If you can get a written script for something like oxycodone, you really aren’t supposed to be driving…get someone to drive you if at all possible.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 15, 2025
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Miss Linda doesn't drive, and I don't know too many people I could ask. A cab would cost an arm and two legs. I guess I could look into Uber or Lyft, but I've never put that app on my phone or used either.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 15, 2025
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Miss Linda doesn't drive, and I don't know too many people I could ask. A cab would cost an arm and two legs. I guess I could look into Uber or Lyft, but I've never put that app on my phone or used either.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:19 AM (omVj0)
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I should have said, "Gimme the real drugs."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:14 AM (omVj0)
As I recall, the pain from the operation snuck up on me.
I jumped right up, put my clothes on, and was ready to go from the hospital.
It didn’t really hurt too much that day.
But the next morning, I could feel it.
And the soreness didn’t go away for a few weeks after.
I could’ve done it without the Percocet but it wouldn’t have been any fun for sure.
If oxycodone is helping, I’d ask for more, too.
As long as you’re not taking three or four at a time I wouldn’t worry about addiction for a 15 day supply.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:14 AM (omVj0)
As I recall, the pain from the operation snuck up on me.
I jumped right up, put my clothes on, and was ready to go from the hospital.
It didn’t really hurt too much that day.
But the next morning, I could feel it.
And the soreness didn’t go away for a few weeks after.
I could’ve done it without the Percocet but it wouldn’t have been any fun for sure.
If oxycodone is helping, I’d ask for more, too.
As long as you’re not taking three or four at a time I wouldn’t worry about addiction for a 15 day supply.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 07:20 AM (6ydKt)
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140 test
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:03 AM (aURVT)
fail
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 07:09 AM (nFkGo)
*sticks tongue out at CBD*
And check out your hash?
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:03 AM (aURVT)
fail
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2025 07:09 AM (nFkGo)
*sticks tongue out at CBD*
And check out your hash?
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:20 AM (aURVT)
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I had two calls yesterday about Microsoft forcing people to use their Authenticator app. Sorry folks, it's not my fault that MS assumes everyone has a smartphone and that Microsoft thinks they are entitled to access it.
I expect more of these calls. Just install the damn app and leave me alone.
I won't install any apps on my phone so MS can just fk right off.
I expect more of these calls. Just install the damn app and leave me alone.
I won't install any apps on my phone so MS can just fk right off.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 07:21 AM (vFG9F)
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I guess he new Superman is "Pro-Americana, Pro-Adoption, Pro-Nuclear Family". According to Breitbart's Marlow. I wonder what Eris thought of it.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 07:21 AM (g47mK)
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Provenance
If its provenance is sketchy, that fly-by-night dealer's product can send you on your way to Providence.
Provenance
If its provenance is sketchy, that fly-by-night dealer's product can send you on your way to Providence.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:21 AM (xG4kz)
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*the
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2025 07:21 AM (g47mK)
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Speaking of Hollis...
The last two albums by Talk Talk are screaming crap as well.
It's like Hollis wanted to punish you for liking The Color of Spring.
Strange dude. Totally nosedived his career.
The last two albums by Talk Talk are screaming crap as well.
It's like Hollis wanted to punish you for liking The Color of Spring.
Strange dude. Totally nosedived his career.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2025 07:21 AM (1R0Vg)
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160. This is why surgery centers want someone with the patient who can understand instructions after a procedure because the patient, having had anesthesia or sedation, can’t. They don’t remember. And they can do dumb things when not supervised.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 15, 2025 07:21 AM (K45Rj)
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I had bunion surgery last year. The greatest pain I think I've ever been in. Pure agony. Doc prescribed Tramadol because he asked me what I wanted. I just thought I couldn't take codeine, so I said Tramadol. The next day, I was back in his office for a post-op and bawling tears. He gave me a much stronger r/x and also an anti-nausea med to go with it since I don't do well on codeine. It did a much better job.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 07:22 AM (qBdHI)
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If oxycodone is helping, I’d ask for more, too.
As long as you’re not taking three or four at a time I wouldn’t worry about addiction for a 15 day supply.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025
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I *guess* it's helping. 160 mg (?) on an Rx from 2013 -- I suppose those things don't expire completely? And I took two ibuprofen as well. They might be what's really helping, if the oxy has expired.
As long as you’re not taking three or four at a time I wouldn’t worry about addiction for a 15 day supply.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025
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I *guess* it's helping. 160 mg (?) on an Rx from 2013 -- I suppose those things don't expire completely? And I took two ibuprofen as well. They might be what's really helping, if the oxy has expired.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:22 AM (omVj0)
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I've been a pain patient for 14 years after an accident at work ruined the lumbar region of my spine.
If want to talk about an exploited and marginalized group that has been seriously fucked over by the government and it's allied institutions, look no further than pain patients.
At some point, suicide is the only way out for a number of people.
Imagine, being forced to take your own life because the government prohibits treatment.
If want to talk about an exploited and marginalized group that has been seriously fucked over by the government and it's allied institutions, look no further than pain patients.
At some point, suicide is the only way out for a number of people.
Imagine, being forced to take your own life because the government prohibits treatment.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 07:23 AM (QB+5g)
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I am sorry you are in pain Wolfus
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 07:24 AM (XMjOg)
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Isn't VICODIN the King??
Isn't VICODIN the King??
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:24 AM (N9VmQ)
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If you have an Oxy from 2013 you are not an addict. An addict would have crushed and snorted them 12 years ago.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 07:24 AM (vFG9F)
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This is why surgery centers want someone with the patient who can understand instructions after a procedure because the patient, having had anesthesia or sedation, can’t. They don’t remember. And they can do dumb things when not supervised.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 15, 2025
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I was afraid that would happen. But I've been alert and fine since I woke up from the anesthetic. Miss Linda is here, but she can't help with this matter of a better Rx.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 15, 2025
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I was afraid that would happen. But I've been alert and fine since I woke up from the anesthetic. Miss Linda is here, but she can't help with this matter of a better Rx.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:24 AM (omVj0)
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Imagine, being forced to take your own life because the government prohibits treatment.
Posted by: pawn
*Canada has entered the chat*
Posted by: pawn
*Canada has entered the chat*
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 15, 2025 07:25 AM (XMjOg)
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If you have an Oxy from 2013 you are not an addict. An addict would have crushed and snorted them 12 years ago.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025
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Pills were never my "drug of choice," as they say.
Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025
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Pills were never my "drug of choice," as they say.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:25 AM (omVj0)
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I guess I could look into Uber or Lyft, but I've never put that app on my phone or used either.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:19 AM (omVj0)
It’s like signing up to anything else online.
Name, Address, Email, Mobile Number.
Then you need a debit or credit card.
Crank up the app, type in your destination address, and wait on somebody to pick you up.
They also deliver food now, too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:19 AM (omVj0)
It’s like signing up to anything else online.
Name, Address, Email, Mobile Number.
Then you need a debit or credit card.
Crank up the app, type in your destination address, and wait on somebody to pick you up.
They also deliver food now, too.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 07:25 AM (6ydKt)
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What's that Rolling Stones song that goes mama's little helper?
What's that Rolling Stones song that goes mama's little helper?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (N9VmQ)
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That's about mama doping up, right?
That's about mama doping up, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (N9VmQ)
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Google Gemini just lost a chess match with an Atari 2600 from the Ordovician Era.
Gemini is the AI that was programmed to deny the existence of straight white people. It probably let the 2600 win because its pieces were black.
Gemini is the AI that was programmed to deny the existence of straight white people. It probably let the 2600 win because its pieces were black.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (NztoB)
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (AOsQT)
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186 That's about mama doping up, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (N9VmQ)
With Valium, is my guess.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (N9VmQ)
With Valium, is my guess.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (aURVT)
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Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40
Posted by: Marcus T at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (dUvnU)
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The high point of American medicine was in the late '60s when It was almost a lock that one of your friends' parents had diet pills or qualuddes in the medicine cabinet.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (NXz8h)
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What's that Rolling Stones song that goes mama's little helper?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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"Mother's Little Helper"
"Outside the door
She took four more --"
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025
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"Mother's Little Helper"
"Outside the door
She took four more --"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:28 AM (omVj0)
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185
What's that Rolling Stones song that goes mama's little helper?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM
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I'm here to help.
What's that Rolling Stones song that goes mama's little helper?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM
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I'm here to help.
Posted by: The internet at July 15, 2025 07:28 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:29 AM (xG4kz)
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191 The high point of American medicine was in the late '60s when It was almost a lock that one of your friends' parents had diet pills or qualuddes in the medicine cabinet.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (NXz8h)
"high" point
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (NXz8h)
"high" point
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:29 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:29 AM (N9VmQ)
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Imagine, being forced to take your own life because the government prohibits treatment.
Posted by: pawn
"But you might become addicted or sell your meds to children!" At least that seems to be the rationale.
In all seriousness, I hope you don't go down the suicide route over this and you have a good support group.
Posted by: pawn
"But you might become addicted or sell your meds to children!" At least that seems to be the rationale.
In all seriousness, I hope you don't go down the suicide route over this and you have a good support group.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 07:30 AM (NR6c1)
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Is it weird I *hear* a song for everything we discuss?
Is it weird I *hear* a song for everything we discuss?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:30 AM (N9VmQ)
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As Sam Kinison once said, if you have $20,000 dollars to check into a rehab, you really don't have a drug problem.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 07:30 AM (QB+5g)
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>>> The last two albums by Talk Talk are screaming crap as well.
It's like Hollis wanted to punish you for liking The Color of Spring.
I disagree thoroughly. Spirit of Eden and Laughingstock are quite esoteric, definitely not everyone's cuppa, but excellent.
I shan't force you to listen to them ;--)
It's like Hollis wanted to punish you for liking The Color of Spring.
I disagree thoroughly. Spirit of Eden and Laughingstock are quite esoteric, definitely not everyone's cuppa, but excellent.
I shan't force you to listen to them ;--)
Posted by: fluffy at July 15, 2025 07:30 AM (AN2gy)
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Pain meds are different for some people
personally, I can distinguish no difference between oxy and Tylenol
personally, I can distinguish no difference between oxy and Tylenol
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2025 07:31 AM (AOsQT)
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Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:04 AM (omVj0)
That has been my experience.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:04 AM (omVj0)
That has been my experience.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:31 AM (SfhV1)
Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at July 15, 2025 07:31 AM (vFG9F)
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198 Is it weird I *hear* a song for everything we discuss?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:30 AM (N9VmQ)
Word association: it's what's for dinner!
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:30 AM (N9VmQ)
Word association: it's what's for dinner!
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:31 AM (aURVT)
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If its provenance is sketchy, that fly-by-night dealer's product can send you on your way to Providence.
This is why I have no faith in AI spell checkers.
This is why I have no faith in AI spell checkers.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 15, 2025 07:32 AM (a4flb)
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remember REXALL drug store signs?
remember REXALL drug store signs?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 15, 2025 07:33 AM (N9VmQ)
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206 remember REXALL drug store signs?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 15, 2025 07:33 AM (N9VmQ)
Mortar and pestle?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 15, 2025 07:33 AM (N9VmQ)
Mortar and pestle?
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:33 AM (aURVT)
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What's a pestle?
What's a pestle?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:34 AM (N9VmQ)
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pestle
noun
a heavy tool with a rounded end, used for crushing and grinding substances such as spices or drugs, typically in a mortar.
noun
a heavy tool with a rounded end, used for crushing and grinding substances such as spices or drugs, typically in a mortar.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:35 AM (aURVT)
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Maybe you have to get the Rx in person and pick it up the same way?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:04 AM (omVj0)
That has been my experience.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead
When I had my hip replacement the pain meds were transmitted to the pharmacy via internet and my husband picked them up. But that was in Ohio. Sounds like it varies from state to state.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:04 AM (omVj0)
That has been my experience.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead
When I had my hip replacement the pain meds were transmitted to the pharmacy via internet and my husband picked them up. But that was in Ohio. Sounds like it varies from state to state.
Posted by: Tuna at July 15, 2025 07:36 AM (lJ0H4)
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remember REXALL drug store signs?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 15, 2025 07:33 AM (N9VmQ)
Mortar and pestle?
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025
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We used to have a 24-hour Rexall downtown with a lunch counter. It's long gone, as are Eckerd stores and our local K & B, and I think Rite-Aid is gone too. Walgreens and CVS are pretty much it here, aside from a few independents -- that are even more $$.
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 15, 2025 07:33 AM (N9VmQ)
Mortar and pestle?
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025
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We used to have a 24-hour Rexall downtown with a lunch counter. It's long gone, as are Eckerd stores and our local K & B, and I think Rite-Aid is gone too. Walgreens and CVS are pretty much it here, aside from a few independents -- that are even more $$.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:36 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 07:36 AM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:36 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 07:37 AM (omVj0)
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198 Is it weird I *hear* a song for everything we discuss?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:30 AM (N9VmQ)
Diana Ross had a similar problem:
Whenever you're near
I hear a symphony
A tender melody
Pulling me closer, closer to your arms
Then suddenly (I hear a symphony)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:30 AM (N9VmQ)
Diana Ross had a similar problem:
Whenever you're near
I hear a symphony
A tender melody
Pulling me closer, closer to your arms
Then suddenly (I hear a symphony)
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:37 AM (aURVT)
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Matthew 22:36-40
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I'm trying to work through the love your neighbor, which I know Jesus wants me to do. There are a lot of really, really bad people out there that make it difficult.
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I'm trying to work through the love your neighbor, which I know Jesus wants me to do. There are a lot of really, really bad people out there that make it difficult.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2025 07:37 AM (qBdHI)
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Sounds like it varies from state to state.
Posted by: Tuna at July 15, 2025 07:36 AM (lJ0H4)
We have to show ID here too.
Posted by: Tuna at July 15, 2025 07:36 AM (lJ0H4)
We have to show ID here too.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 15, 2025 07:38 AM (SfhV1)
Posted by: Nazdar at July 15, 2025 07:38 AM (NcvvS)
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remember REXALL drug store signs?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover
Yes, and they were referred to as Rexall druggists!
The one that pisses me off is Mary Lou Rotten. She was spokesmouth for Revco Drug stores and promised they would be "your friend for life". She lied.
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover
Yes, and they were referred to as Rexall druggists!
The one that pisses me off is Mary Lou Rotten. She was spokesmouth for Revco Drug stores and promised they would be "your friend for life". She lied.
Posted by: Undocumented Pharmacist at July 15, 2025 07:38 AM (G5+As)
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2025 07:39 AM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:40 AM (N9VmQ)
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That's about mama doping up, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (N9VmQ)
With Valium, is my guess.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (aURVT)
In the 1960s? Probably Miltown.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 15, 2025 07:26 AM (N9VmQ)
With Valium, is my guess.
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:27 AM (aURVT)
In the 1960s? Probably Miltown.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 15, 2025 07:40 AM (Dg2sF)
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Walgreens and CVS are pretty much it here, aside from a few independents -- that are even more $$.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Pretty much the same here in Nashville land except for Krogers, Publix and Walmart which have their own pharmacies.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Pretty much the same here in Nashville land except for Krogers, Publix and Walmart which have their own pharmacies.
Posted by: Tuna at July 15, 2025 07:40 AM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:40 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 15, 2025 07:41 AM (NXz8h)
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Rx scripts from Delaware for opioids are not honored in Michigan. That posed a major problem for the missus when we visited my mother about fifteen years ago. Fortunately Mom's doctor came to her rescue.
Rx scripts from Delaware for opioids are not honored in Michigan. That posed a major problem for the missus when we visited my mother about fifteen years ago. Fortunately Mom's doctor came to her rescue.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:42 AM (xG4kz)
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What a drag it is getting old
"Kids are different today, "
I hear every mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill,
there's a little yellow pill
What a drag it is getting old
"Kids are different today, "
I hear every mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill,
there's a little yellow pill
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 07:42 AM (aURVT)
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For some reason, I took to playing 'Honky Tonk Women' quite a bit when I served on the vestry of the Episcopal church in which we were members in '97 through '04.
I love mankind, it's people that I can't stand.
For some reason, I took to playing 'Honky Tonk Women' quite a bit when I served on the vestry of the Episcopal church in which we were members in '97 through '04.
I love mankind, it's people that I can't stand.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 15, 2025 07:51 AM (xG4kz)
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How many time does something need to be repeated by podcasters before it is considered to be incontrovertible truth ?
Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 15, 2025 08:37 AM (SQmE5)
Monday Overnight Open Thread - July 14, 2025 [scampydog]
Media is living up to its reputation. "Was the fire hot?" "Did you get wet in the rainstorm?" The question and the masterstroke verbal reply. (sound way up for this one)
We the media is lank, the sarcasm is heavy and hilarious! 😂🤣😂🤣😇 pic.twitter.com/mYYJRp9tJ3
— Shannon 🇺🇸I stand with America (@thewriterme) July 8, 2025
Small town sign war. Even the bank got in on the fun. (sound off for this one)
A small town in Missouri has a hilarious sign war pic.twitter.com/bfxpGKCQ1H
— • Angry Frog ™ • (@angrifrog) July 5, 2025
It's always cool to see an heirloom repurposed. From stitching to a laptop workstation.
There are many ways you can make your old singer machine work for you. Below are 10 functional upcycled sewing machine table ideas to consider.
Nice pictures of this antique Singer getting a makeover.
Any of the Horde have an old Singer (sewing machine)? Or a repurposed one?
"Some crates went crashing down onto the roadway, and thousands of blueberries spilled out onto Lougheed Highway, creating a sticky mess for vehicles that drove over the fruit.," the post said. RCMP officers "were called to the juicy incident" and used a shovel to push the sticky remains out of the roadway.
Monday night wholesome content section.
Hilarious toddlers Tongue Twisters" – challenges pic.twitter.com/khqtz2Zkp2
— Nina Deer (@longdepzai_n) July 7, 2025
Wholesome pic.twitter.com/98z3yz7oTg
— Giga Based Dad (@GigaBasedDad) May 24, 2025
How about some underutilized words? Or choosing your words poorly with a group that is quick with ridicule and laughs? Outre came out of my mouth recently - had not used that word in decades. Immediately the good natured nerd comments and taunts began flying from the other 15 golfers in the league. Big list to peruse. Any Horde favorites?
«The 1950s children's toy that burnt many carpets.»pic.twitter.com/zrO3vVmS2I
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) June 28, 2025
Don't tell Disco Doof, but we're doing a "This day in music history" without him. Glen Campbell and Tanya Tucker sang the Star-Spangled Banner at the 1980 Republican Convention.
It’s no industry secret that Tucker dabbled in some “non-prescriptions” from time to time, and based on this long told tale of her duet with Glen Campbell at the 1980 Republican National Convention, both her and the “Rhinestone Cowboy” singer were on a little something when they sang the “Star Spangled Banner.”Never get tired of this song. When a man of low degree stood by her side.
This ONT brought to you by: Maturity is overrated. American golfer wins Scottish Open. The best name in pro sports?
Jeeezus! Do they live in Transylvania? 🦇🫣 pic.twitter.com/5DdEl1zAxp
— Jen (@SweetTexanRose) July 13, 2025
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Yay, Pandemonium Day ONT!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 14, 2025 10:00 PM (lUFok)
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Happy Monday, ONT'ers.
I still shake my head in nigh-disbelief when I see Trump at Butler, reaching up to his ear. You don't often see an outright miracle like that live on teevee.
MiladyJo had been out with the dog, and when she came back, I told her, well, the world changed while you were out!
I still shake my head in nigh-disbelief when I see Trump at Butler, reaching up to his ear. You don't often see an outright miracle like that live on teevee.
MiladyJo had been out with the dog, and when she came back, I told her, well, the world changed while you were out!
Posted by: mindful webworker - five-note UFO theme at July 14, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
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Not first
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 10:00 PM (fveCG)
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Hey! Happy Monday!
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 14, 2025 10:00 PM (hftn9)
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Tips hat to Blanco.
The usual excuse. Hit the wrong key. One stroke too many.
I'm off to nood the cafe.
The usual excuse. Hit the wrong key. One stroke too many.
I'm off to nood the cafe.
Posted by: mindful webworker - well okay then at July 14, 2025 10:01 PM (+kBwA)
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Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/)
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Lotta content for a Monday.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 14, 2025 10:02 PM (n4GiU)
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 10:03 PM (3pEm9)
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I've got a bone to pick with some of you people.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:03 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 10:03 PM (Kq8pV)
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What vehicle is that up top?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:04 PM (cYBz/)
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Nice ride.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 10:04 PM (viF8m)
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11 What vehicle is that up top?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:04 PM (cYBz/)
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Allow me to put you some knowledge:
MG-A
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:04 PM (cYBz/)
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Allow me to put you some knowledge:
MG-A
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:05 PM (hY4dx)
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that last video... uh, nope.
nope nope nopeity nope nope.
nope nope nopeity nope nope.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 10:05 PM (gKWVE)
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Sign wars! Good stuff.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 14, 2025 10:05 PM (dR6yv)
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Allow me to put you some knowledge:
MG-A
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025
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You sir, are correct. That one is a '56.
MG-A
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025
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You sir, are correct. That one is a '56.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:05 PM (41CYW)
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Not quite a Red Barcetta, but evocative.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 10:06 PM (XV/Pl)
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, I told her, well, the world changed festive little hats while you were out!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 10:06 PM (QWhkt)
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I clicked the link about the antique Singer getting a makeover and fully expected to see video of Mick Jagger at a salon.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 10:07 PM (3pEm9)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2025 10:08 PM (CHHv1)
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Purty car.
Posted by: davidt at July 14, 2025 10:08 PM (i0F8b)
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Meow. Good evening.
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 14, 2025 10:08 PM (w3u3d)
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Hi everyone. I bought a cheap UPS to help with the constant power outages. Maybe it will help.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2025 10:09 PM (CHHv1)
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That is an MGA roadster. Late 1950's, and a very pretty car.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:09 PM (piB20)
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The curse of Lucas electronics compels you.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 10:09 PM (viF8m)
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Allow me to put you some knowledge:
MG-A
Posted by: Cicero
Thank you. I'm assuming it that since it possessed Lucas components it had very few hours of actually driving.
MG-A
Posted by: Cicero
Thank you. I'm assuming it that since it possessed Lucas components it had very few hours of actually driving.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:09 PM (cYBz/)
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17 Not quite a Red Barcetta, but evocative.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 10:06 PM (XV/Pl)
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A red Lambretta maybe? Rumor has it that's what Ace rides.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 10:06 PM (XV/Pl)
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A red Lambretta maybe? Rumor has it that's what Ace rides.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:09 PM (hY4dx)
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I liked Strawbs. RIP David Cousins.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2025 10:10 PM (CHHv1)
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@27
>>A red Lambretta maybe? Rumor has it that's what Ace rides.
Ace drives a Gold 1989 Acura Integra.
>>A red Lambretta maybe? Rumor has it that's what Ace rides.
Ace drives a Gold 1989 Acura Integra.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 10:11 PM (XV/Pl)
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The residents of that house can look forward to a much higher than normal mosquito population now that they've destroyed the bat colony.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:12 PM (Riz8t)
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Thanks for the dandy Monday Night ONT, scampydog!
I learned to sew on an old Singer treadle machine. Good times until I managed to embed the needle in my finger. Those were great and very reliable machines.
I learned to sew on an old Singer treadle machine. Good times until I managed to embed the needle in my finger. Those were great and very reliable machines.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 14, 2025 10:13 PM (kB9dk)
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9 I've got a bone to pick with some of you people.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Festivis? Now we're going to hear about it? Feats of strength next?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Festivis? Now we're going to hear about it? Feats of strength next?
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 14, 2025 10:13 PM (hftn9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 10:14 PM (63Dwl)
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The Brits might have made the bonnet a bit wider, to allow better access to the engine. Or is it powered by Singer?
Posted by: Muscle Car Muscle Head at July 14, 2025 10:14 PM (G5+As)
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My dad bought my mom a black MG roadster when I was very small. I remember she used to stuff my 2 brothers and me and the dog in the car to go cruising out in the country. She would do some sketching and we would run around until it was time to go, then we would all get stuffed back in and head home.
Posted by: Megthered at July 14, 2025 10:14 PM (GOJbT)
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You sir, are correct. That one is a '56.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:05 PM (41CYW)
So you say - are you sure it’s not a 1961?
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:05 PM (41CYW)
So you say - are you sure it’s not a 1961?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 10:15 PM (YQdCi)
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Good evening, LS. Ouch, the needle had a point to make. Sew it seems.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:15 PM (41CYW)
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BatMan, your bats is hatching out in broad daylight.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 10:15 PM (LHPAg)
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9 I've got a bone to pick with some of you people.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:03 PM (hY4dx)
On this blog, it had better be the humerus.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:03 PM (hY4dx)
On this blog, it had better be the humerus.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 10:16 PM (3pEm9)
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The driver of the pickup truck that spilled all those blueberries should have been ticketed for having an insecure load. Nearly all the berry farmers now in that region are asians of the Indo persuasion.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:16 PM (piB20)
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So you say - are you sure it’s not a 1961?
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Here is the link to the ad. https://tinyurl.com/32hy9p95
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Here is the link to the ad. https://tinyurl.com/32hy9p95
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:17 PM (41CYW)
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Great job, ScampyDog! And I never noticed until you mentioned it but yes, this is a very handsome crowd indeed!
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:17 PM (pZEOD)
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6 Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/)
You with your always excluding of us non-good people TonyPete
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/)
You with your always excluding of us non-good people TonyPete
Posted by: PaleRider at July 14, 2025 10:18 PM (bP/i4)
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She would do some sketching and we would run around until it was time to go, then we would all get stuffed back in and head home.
Posted by: Megthered
"Get Stuffed"! is a fine old British pejorative.
Posted by: Megthered
"Get Stuffed"! is a fine old British pejorative.
Posted by: Benny Hill, 1973 at July 14, 2025 10:18 PM (G5+As)
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Evening Horde, thx scampydog.
Back in the nineties my firm represented the estate of the guy who built the Bearsville Theater. The partner i was working with handed me two tickets. It was the warm up show for The Pretenders work tour. A friend and I saw them in front of about 100 people at Bearsville. Great show
Back in the nineties my firm represented the estate of the guy who built the Bearsville Theater. The partner i was working with handed me two tickets. It was the warm up show for The Pretenders work tour. A friend and I saw them in front of about 100 people at Bearsville. Great show
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 10:19 PM (wD1xW)
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The face of Minneapolis has changed. Here's the Democrat's candidate for mayor, Omar Fateh.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: IrishEi at July 14, 2025 10:21 PM (3ImbR)
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Any of the Horde have an old Singer (sewing machine)?
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There's one at Dad's house. I think the sewing machine itself may be kaput, but the unit looks complete.
Thanks for the ideas! I was sad to think I'd need to just pitch it out.
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There's one at Dad's house. I think the sewing machine itself may be kaput, but the unit looks complete.
Thanks for the ideas! I was sad to think I'd need to just pitch it out.
Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2025 10:21 PM (rdVOm)
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Here is the link to the ad. https://tinyurl.com/32hy9p95
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:17 PM (41CYW)
Awww, you cheated. Finding the ad that the picture came from and all that.
Here is the link to the ad. https://tinyurl.com/32hy9p95
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:17 PM (41CYW)
Awww, you cheated. Finding the ad that the picture came from and all that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 10:22 PM (YQdCi)
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Madman in NYC was pulled off the stage by his aides. It was some media event.
I guess he's talking too much about he's going to "improve" the city.
Madman in NYC was pulled off the stage by his aides. It was some media event.
I guess he's talking too much about he's going to "improve" the city.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 14, 2025 10:23 PM (3ek7K)
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9 I've got a bone to pick with some of you people.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Festivis? Now we're going to hear about it? Feats of strength next?
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 14, 2025 10:13 PM (hftn9)
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Is it too late to make a donation to the Human Fund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Festivis? Now we're going to hear about it? Feats of strength next?
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 14, 2025 10:13 PM (hftn9)
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Is it too late to make a donation to the Human Fund?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 10:23 PM (IBQGV)
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Good evening, LS. Ouch, the needle had a point to make. Sew it seems.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:15 PM (41CYW)
* * * *
And that, my friend, is how I learned to keep my eyes on what I was doing!
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:15 PM (41CYW)
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And that, my friend, is how I learned to keep my eyes on what I was doing!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 14, 2025 10:23 PM (kB9dk)
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:23 PM (pZEOD)
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We’ve got two singers - one used as a side table in the house with the original machine still in it, and one frame out on the porch with just a flat board on top, for a small utility table.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 10:23 PM (YQdCi)
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Awww, you cheated. Finding the ad that the picture came from and all that.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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LOL. It's kind of a bucket list item for me. I keep telling my wife I'll buy one, put on the driving goggle, gloves, white scarf, and drive around town. She doesn't think it's as funny.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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LOL. It's kind of a bucket list item for me. I keep telling my wife I'll buy one, put on the driving goggle, gloves, white scarf, and drive around town. She doesn't think it's as funny.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:23 PM (41CYW)
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>>My dad bought my mom a black MG roadster when I was very small.
My dad bought my mom a Mustang. Then a Camaro IROC Z He bought himself the MGs. All of which found their way into my grubby paws.
3 pedals.
My dad bought my mom a Mustang. Then a Camaro IROC Z He bought himself the MGs. All of which found their way into my grubby paws.
3 pedals.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 10:24 PM (viF8m)
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Mom had one of those treadle-powered Singer that folded away into its own cabinet. At some point, she had someone add a motor. I think she removed from the cabinet when we moved, and maybe gave it to my older sister.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 10:25 PM (bA75n)
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DQ Rules!
MacD drools.
MacD drools.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 10:26 PM (W/lyH)
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Still have my grandmother's Singer in the original cabinet. It was a treadle machine, but an electric motor was added. The motor still works (I believe it was added around 193. The motor drove the mechanism via a rubber belt. It wasn't strong enough to start so my grandmother would use her left hand on the flywheel to get it going.
I still miss her after almost 50 years.
. The motor drove the mechanism via a rubber belt. It wasn't strong enough to start so my grandmother would use her left hand on the flywheel to get it going.
I still miss her after almost 50 years.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 10:26 PM (n3kHr)
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The great thing about the MG Midget was, you could get one for each foot.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:28 PM (hY4dx)
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I submit that this is indisputable:
The Jerusalem Post & The Times of Israel are to Netanyahu EXACTLY as The NYT and CBS News are to Trump.
I base this opinion on having read the 2 Israeli publications online every day since the war started-- for appx a year and 9 months so far.
I know our friend Biden's Dog doesn't care for Bibi, and I wish he'd explain why.
And please spare me, "You don't understand that the Israeli political spectrum is entirely different from ours!" I know leftwing, liquid green Horzh*t when I see it, thanks very much.
The Jerusalem Post & The Times of Israel are to Netanyahu EXACTLY as The NYT and CBS News are to Trump.
I base this opinion on having read the 2 Israeli publications online every day since the war started-- for appx a year and 9 months so far.
I know our friend Biden's Dog doesn't care for Bibi, and I wish he'd explain why.
And please spare me, "You don't understand that the Israeli political spectrum is entirely different from ours!" I know leftwing, liquid green Horzh*t when I see it, thanks very much.
Posted by: mnw at July 14, 2025 10:30 PM (kd60y)
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Guess I should take my baby doge out for final potties.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:31 PM (pZEOD)
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The great thing about the MG Midget was, you could get one for each foot.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:28 PM (hY4dx)
I don't think the NBA would allow their players to wear them on the court!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:28 PM (hY4dx)
I don't think the NBA would allow their players to wear them on the court!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 14, 2025 10:31 PM (S/Y4j)
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My guess is "Portugal"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 10:31 PM (D7oie)
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I saw something awful in the stores recently. Halloween stuff. Yep. It is already hitting the shelves !
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 10:31 PM (g47mK)
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Big list to peruse. Any Horde favorites?
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Oh my, one of my favorite words is on that list. "Bailiwick". I use it whenever I get the chance (even in the comments here).
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Oh my, one of my favorite words is on that list. "Bailiwick". I use it whenever I get the chance (even in the comments here).
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 10:32 PM (dIske)
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I had a steam-engine toy that looked like this
https://bit.ly/steam-engine-toy
or something like it. It's been… a few years ago. Electric, though. Steam was hot, but no flames.
I'd link it to tinkertoy ferris wheels and other constructions.
https://bit.ly/steam-engine-toy
or something like it. It's been… a few years ago. Electric, though. Steam was hot, but no flames.
I'd link it to tinkertoy ferris wheels and other constructions.
Posted by: mindful webworker - steam power, baby! at July 14, 2025 10:33 PM (+kBwA)
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Any of the Horde have an old Singer (sewing machine)? Or a repurposed one?
Yup, got an ancient singer down in the basement. Its in nice shape, but missing the table. Got a 1914 german made one in almost mint condition. Its a table top model, hand crank, beautiful wood case. Of course I don't know how to use it, but its a cool piece of engineering.
Yup, got an ancient singer down in the basement. Its in nice shape, but missing the table. Got a 1914 german made one in almost mint condition. Its a table top model, hand crank, beautiful wood case. Of course I don't know how to use it, but its a cool piece of engineering.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 10:33 PM (snZF9)
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Beautiful car.
How fun would it have been to be a young woman and your date shows up in that?!?
As long as dad was sitting on the porch cleaning his shotty.
How fun would it have been to be a young woman and your date shows up in that?!?
As long as dad was sitting on the porch cleaning his shotty.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 10:34 PM (ApcYo)
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That's a lot of bats.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:35 PM (hY4dx)
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The MGA was one of the most beautiful cars ever made, and was great to drive, like a go-kart.
The MGA was one of the most beautiful cars ever made, and was great to drive, like a go-kart.
Posted by: frankly at July 14, 2025 10:35 PM (uN5L6)
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Holy fuck that’s a lot of bats.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:35 PM (ImXfC)
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I don't think the NBA would allow their players to wear them on the court!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 14, 2025 10:31 PM (S/Y4j)
Midgets are too small for the feet of the average roundball player. Chevy Impala a better fit.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 14, 2025 10:31 PM (S/Y4j)
Midgets are too small for the feet of the average roundball player. Chevy Impala a better fit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:35 PM (piB20)
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My first machine was a Japanese knock-off of the Singer with a motor running it. I wound up with a treadle cabinet, so I keep it there.
The back and forth only Singer was a good machine to learn on, and it would do leather,, as long as it wasn't too thick or to tightly sewn.
The back and forth only Singer was a good machine to learn on, and it would do leather,, as long as it wasn't too thick or to tightly sewn.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 10:36 PM (D7oie)
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72 Holy fuck that’s a lot of bats.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:35 PM (ImXfC
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CHALLENGE ACCEPTED:
That's like a metric fuckton of bats.
*mike drop*
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:35 PM (ImXfC
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CHALLENGE ACCEPTED:
That's like a metric fuckton of bats.
*mike drop*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:37 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: Doof at July 14, 2025 10:37 PM (4F6GB)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:37 PM (ImXfC)
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Whoa, Tanya Tucker doing an imitation of a sheep.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 14, 2025 10:37 PM (0Htd1)
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Ever read horror stories about a homeowners heating oil tank busting and the subsequent hundreds of thousands of dollars they spend for cleanup?
Never tell anyone about an oil leak. You call your hvac plumber and guess what? He MUST report it or insist You report it or else he won't get involved.
Ever read horror stories about a homeowners heating oil tank busting and the subsequent hundreds of thousands of dollars they spend for cleanup?
Never tell anyone about an oil leak. You call your hvac plumber and guess what? He MUST report it or insist You report it or else he won't get involved.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 10:37 PM (aTBFc)
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What do you mean "bordering on"? Canada is "the world", right? And we have Canadian morons. So it already is actually World Famous!
(Hey it's the "World Series" right? And that's based solely on Canada being involved, not Japan.)
(Hey it's the "World Series" right? And that's based solely on Canada being involved, not Japan.)
Posted by: GWB at July 14, 2025 10:39 PM (/nQF/)
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So, who's got the Dead Pool going on Ghislaine Maxwell?
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 10:39 PM (dIske)
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My furnace is 24 years old. Runs fine. But I'll be switching to natgas when I get a new one.
My furnace is 24 years old. Runs fine. But I'll be switching to natgas when I get a new one.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 10:39 PM (aTBFc)
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Any of the Horde have an old Singer (sewing machine)? Or a repurposed one?
I know of a place where 9 old sewing machine tables were repurposed. There's a treadle machine, which has been turned into a TV stand just by putting the machine down and a TV on top. Then there's various tables that are now nightstands. As far as I know, none were in working condition when acquired.
I know of a place where 9 old sewing machine tables were repurposed. There's a treadle machine, which has been turned into a TV stand just by putting the machine down and a TV on top. Then there's various tables that are now nightstands. As far as I know, none were in working condition when acquired.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 14, 2025 10:40 PM (lUFok)
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Never tell anyone about an oil leak. You call your hvac plumber and guess what? He MUST report it or insist You report it or else he won't get involved.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 10:37 PM (aTBFc)
Funny. There never was a problem with leaking coal bins.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 10:37 PM (aTBFc)
Funny. There never was a problem with leaking coal bins.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:40 PM (piB20)
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Underused words? I like "incandescent ", but only when used to describe rage, not lightbulbs.
I also like "termagent "and "virago" to describe women like Hillary.
I also like "termagent "and "virago" to describe women like Hillary.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at July 14, 2025 10:40 PM (5Dm6N)
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The MGA was one of the most beautiful cars ever made, and was great to drive, like a go-kart.
Posted by: frankly at July 14, 2025 10:35 PM (uN5L6)
Drove a TR-6 a couple times, and a friend had a TR-4A that was a Garage queen... but when it ran it was like a raped ape...
Been thinking about buying a Miata with the retractable hard top... need to get one in the area to test drive.
The MGA was one of the most beautiful cars ever made, and was great to drive, like a go-kart.
Posted by: frankly at July 14, 2025 10:35 PM (uN5L6)
Drove a TR-6 a couple times, and a friend had a TR-4A that was a Garage queen... but when it ran it was like a raped ape...
Been thinking about buying a Miata with the retractable hard top... need to get one in the area to test drive.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 14, 2025 10:41 PM (mP0Kj)
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Ever read horror stories about a homeowners heating oil tank busting and the subsequent hundreds of thousands of dollars they spend for cleanup?
Never tell anyone about an oil leak. You call your hvac plumber and guess what? He MUST report it or insist You report it or else he won't get involved.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Better get ServePro
Never tell anyone about an oil leak. You call your hvac plumber and guess what? He MUST report it or insist You report it or else he won't get involved.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Better get ServePro
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 10:41 PM (/lPRQ)
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I had a little red 1992 Mercury Capri XR2 Turbo. My boys fit in the backseats (barely) and we did a few road trips together.
Top down. North Cascades Hwy. all our stuff jammed in the trunk, camping in Winthrop, Wa.
I loved that little car.
Had to give it up for a lesbaru. Boys got too big. Too much stuff.
Oh well. I think every girl should get to own a little red convertible.
Top down. North Cascades Hwy. all our stuff jammed in the trunk, camping in Winthrop, Wa.
I loved that little car.
Had to give it up for a lesbaru. Boys got too big. Too much stuff.
Oh well. I think every girl should get to own a little red convertible.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 10:41 PM (d8mPq)
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Y'argh, horde.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 14, 2025 10:41 PM (LJlnI)
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I can no longer avail myself to the constant poppycock and balderdash associated to this comment section. Therefore I bid you all adieu fine ladies and gentlemen humph storms out
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 10:42 PM (uEWUd)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 10:42 PM (aTBFc)
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The face of Minneapolis has changed. Here's the Democrat's candidate for mayor, Omar Fateh.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 PM
Archimedes, I didn't bother to open open your link because what is happening now in Minnesota started in 1965 and now it's just crying over the ruins.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 PM
Archimedes, I didn't bother to open open your link because what is happening now in Minnesota started in 1965 and now it's just crying over the ruins.
Posted by: Long time guy at July 14, 2025 10:43 PM (B7IUE)
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I can no longer avail myself to the constant poppycock and balderdash associated to this comment section. Therefore I bid you all adieu fine ladies and gentlemen humph storms out
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 10:42 PM (uEWUd)
Well, don't let the doorknob hit you on the fundament, Cap.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 10:42 PM (uEWUd)
Well, don't let the doorknob hit you on the fundament, Cap.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:44 PM (piB20)
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I can no longer avail myself to the constant poppycock and balderdash associated to this comment section. Therefore I bid you all adieu fine ladies and gentlemen humph storms out
It is unclear if this is a flounce, unbridled or otherwise. Be better.
It is unclear if this is a flounce, unbridled or otherwise. Be better.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:44 PM (Riz8t)
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>>>Funny. There never was a problem with leaking coal bins.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
True. And shoveling coal keeps 'er-indoors in good shape.
>>>Funny. There never was a problem with leaking coal bins.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
True. And shoveling coal keeps 'er-indoors in good shape.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 10:46 PM (aTBFc)
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>>Drove a TR-6 a couple times
One of the best looking and best driving of the bunch. Had a couple. The normal Lucas issues but when they were right there wasn't much better.
One of the best looking and best driving of the bunch. Had a couple. The normal Lucas issues but when they were right there wasn't much better.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 10:46 PM (viF8m)
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Oh, and the toddler tongue twisters were great!
There's a very short window when the little thugs are just starting to form words, and I loved those moments with Little. He had a stuffed toy that we called "Smiley face". Best he could manage was something that sounded like, "Ofaje"...
There's a very short window when the little thugs are just starting to form words, and I loved those moments with Little. He had a stuffed toy that we called "Smiley face". Best he could manage was something that sounded like, "Ofaje"...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 10:46 PM (bA75n)
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Madman in NYC was pulled off the stage by his aides. It was some media event.
I guess he's talking too much about he's going to "improve" the city.
Posted by: fourseasons
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Ooh, details! Link!
Madman in NYC was pulled off the stage by his aides. It was some media event.
I guess he's talking too much about he's going to "improve" the city.
Posted by: fourseasons
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Ooh, details! Link!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 10:46 PM (xp7+v)
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The face of Minneapolis has changed. Here's the Democrat's candidate for mayor, Omar Fateh.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 PM
Archimedes, I didn't bother to open open your link because what is happening now in Minnesota started in 1965 and now it's just crying over the ruins.
I mostly posted it because the guy is some kind of amusing looking.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 PM
Archimedes, I didn't bother to open open your link because what is happening now in Minnesota started in 1965 and now it's just crying over the ruins.
I mostly posted it because the guy is some kind of amusing looking.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:46 PM (Riz8t)
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The Jerusalem Post & The Times of Israel are to Netanyahu EXACTLY as The NYT and CBS News are to Trump.
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And please spare me, "You don't understand that the Israeli political spectrum is entirely different from ours!" I know leftwing, liquid green Horzh*t when I see it, thanks very much.
Posted by: mnw
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And please spare me, "You don't understand that the Israeli political spectrum is entirely different from ours!" I know leftwing, liquid green Horzh*t when I see it, thanks very much.
Posted by: mnw
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 10:46 PM (Kq8pV)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:47 PM (ImXfC)
Posted by: fourseasons at July 14, 2025 10:47 PM (3ek7K)
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So, who's got the Dead Pool going on Ghislaine Maxwell?
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 10:39 PM (dIske)
I mean I would, but instead, I figure that I might as well get started practicing to not talk about her untimely demise, either.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 10:39 PM (dIske)
I mean I would, but instead, I figure that I might as well get started practicing to not talk about her untimely demise, either.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 10:47 PM (zLwRl)
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I had a 58. There was sufficient room under the hood to work on most of the engine. 1498cc cast iron. 4 speed with a 410 rear end. Lot of fun to drive and you could always rewire around the prince of darkness. Long gone but still missed.
Posted by: clarence at July 14, 2025 10:48 PM (p4TlZ)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 10:48 PM (Kq8pV)
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Here is the link to the ad. https://tinyurl.com/32hy9p95
Posted by: scampydog
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I was thinking Austin Healy 100, because that pic distorted the length of the hood.
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The Brits might have made the bonnet a bit wider, to allow better access to the engine. Or is it powered by Singer?
Posted by: Muscle Car Muscle Head
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The even smaller MG Midget was worse, by the AH "Bug-eye" Sprite on the same frame did. The whole front tilted forward.
Posted by: scampydog
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I was thinking Austin Healy 100, because that pic distorted the length of the hood.
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The Brits might have made the bonnet a bit wider, to allow better access to the engine. Or is it powered by Singer?
Posted by: Muscle Car Muscle Head
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The even smaller MG Midget was worse, by the AH "Bug-eye" Sprite on the same frame did. The whole front tilted forward.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 10:49 PM (n3kHr)
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I mostly posted it because the guy is some kind of amusing looking.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:46 PM (Riz8t)
Add a pair of goat horns, and he's Satan.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:46 PM (Riz8t)
Add a pair of goat horns, and he's Satan.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:49 PM (piB20)
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We have an old Singer machine complete with the table and treadle, it's just missing one small connecting part as part of the linkage between treadle and machine. Maybe someday we'll be able to locate the right piece for it.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 14, 2025 10:49 PM (O7YUW)
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Evening Horde!
Wow about the bats! Anytime any animal is around in that quantity it is creepy!
Wow about the bats! Anytime any animal is around in that quantity it is creepy!
Posted by: Iris at July 14, 2025 10:50 PM (bOJ2I)
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88 Oh well. I think every girl should get to own a little red convertible.
Posted by: nurse ratched at
I have come full circle and now have a little green convertible. But there are times I miss my 2012 LR, I fit so much stuff in there! I really loved it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at
I have come full circle and now have a little green convertible. But there are times I miss my 2012 LR, I fit so much stuff in there! I really loved it.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 14, 2025 10:51 PM (pIfcn)
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Drove a TR-6 a couple times, and a friend had a TR-4A that was a Garage queen... but when it ran it was like a raped ape...
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The Fiat X19 was in that category. It really was like a go-cart, and a major threat to nearby motorists when my grandma foolishly put it in my teenaged hands.
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The Fiat X19 was in that category. It really was like a go-cart, and a major threat to nearby motorists when my grandma foolishly put it in my teenaged hands.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:51 PM (hY4dx)
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Hi All,
Today marked one week since Dad's (Ciampino) passing. We find it hard to believe a week has already gone by. My sister had a cry at work on her break. Her coworkers bought us some food to make sure we eat. We haven't been sleeping or eating much. Our neighbor also called to check on us. He considers us like his kids, so he looks out for us.
[Link to Ciampino's fund: https://t.co/NfEjq7HEkV]
To make today worse, we had to rush Purrcy to the vet. He was bleeding from his mouth again, but this time his chest, legs and the floor had blood everywhere. He then proceeded to collapse and gasp for air. He's currently on the bathroom floor, still bleeding, but otherwise the vet didn't seem worried. I did make a post about him on the cat fundraiser.
[Link to cat fund: https://t.co/iS8XTjbmSR]
Huge thanks to those who have donated to both funds.
Today marked one week since Dad's (Ciampino) passing. We find it hard to believe a week has already gone by. My sister had a cry at work on her break. Her coworkers bought us some food to make sure we eat. We haven't been sleeping or eating much. Our neighbor also called to check on us. He considers us like his kids, so he looks out for us.
[Link to Ciampino's fund: https://t.co/NfEjq7HEkV]
To make today worse, we had to rush Purrcy to the vet. He was bleeding from his mouth again, but this time his chest, legs and the floor had blood everywhere. He then proceeded to collapse and gasp for air. He's currently on the bathroom floor, still bleeding, but otherwise the vet didn't seem worried. I did make a post about him on the cat fundraiser.
[Link to cat fund: https://t.co/iS8XTjbmSR]
Huge thanks to those who have donated to both funds.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 14, 2025 10:52 PM (sPQoU)
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MGA is a beaut. Guess a 300 ci Ford 6 would be too heavy for it.
Maybe hot Honda systems.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 10:48 PM (Kq8pV)
Toyota 22RE with a 5-speed, from a pickup. Fuel injection, too.
Maybe hot Honda systems.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 10:48 PM (Kq8pV)
Toyota 22RE with a 5-speed, from a pickup. Fuel injection, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:53 PM (piB20)
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Halloween is a for great excuse for women to dress very naughty. It's aceptable if you are in costume. Hubba hubba. Great time of year!
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 14, 2025 10:53 PM (hftn9)
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remember the FIERO?
remember the FIERO?
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 10:53 PM (aTBFc)
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Had to step away for a bit - probably missed all the fun. Cooking ribs - they're getting close. Team scampywife shot a 3 under in their 9 hole scramble league tonight. Not too shabby!
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:54 PM (41CYW)
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114 MGA is a beaut. Guess a 300 ci Ford 6 would be too heavy for it.
Maybe hot Honda systems.
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It's British, so maybe you could shoehorn a Merlin V12 into that bad boy.
Maybe hot Honda systems.
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It's British, so maybe you could shoehorn a Merlin V12 into that bad boy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 10:54 PM (hY4dx)
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And, can I ask y'all not to post songs as part of playlists? I want to hear the song *you* posted, not the next one, and I don't know how to stop it automatically playing. No, I won't log in, if that's required to stop the autoplay.
Please?
Please?
Posted by: GWB at July 14, 2025 10:55 PM (/nQF/)
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115 Halloween is a for great excuse for women to dress very naughty. It's aceptable if you are in costume. Hubba hubba. Great time of year!
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Cool! I'm dressing like a sexy pumpkin this year!
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Cool! I'm dressing like a sexy pumpkin this year!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (hY4dx)
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The face of Minneapolis has changed. Here's the Democrat's candidate for mayor, Omar Fateh.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes
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I can't find it now, but that guy is a dead ringer for one of the pictures we see from time to time representing the religion of peace. That scene from Koln, New Year's 2016. Looks exactly like one of those wild-eyed African men rampaging the women.
The face of Minneapolis has changed. Here's the Democrat's candidate for mayor, Omar Fateh.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes
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I can't find it now, but that guy is a dead ringer for one of the pictures we see from time to time representing the religion of peace. That scene from Koln, New Year's 2016. Looks exactly like one of those wild-eyed African men rampaging the women.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (xp7+v)
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>>The Fiat X19 was in that category. It really was like a go-cart, and a major threat to nearby motorists when my grandma foolishly put it in my teenaged hands.
One of the best cars I ever owned was a 1974 Porsche 914. It was well used by the time I got it but I rebuilt most of it.
There is nothing like a mid-engine car for go kart appeal. Probably the most fun driving car I've ever had.
One of the best cars I ever owned was a 1974 Porsche 914. It was well used by the time I got it but I rebuilt most of it.
There is nothing like a mid-engine car for go kart appeal. Probably the most fun driving car I've ever had.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (viF8m)
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OK. Spent a few minutes flipping through that word list, and I have a couple of observations:
1) It doesn't contain "cromulent", so as far as I'm concerned it's not worth much.
2) Christopher Williams of Livonia, MI REALLY needs to get a hobby.
1) It doesn't contain "cromulent", so as far as I'm concerned it's not worth much.
2) Christopher Williams of Livonia, MI REALLY needs to get a hobby.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at July 14, 2025 10:57 PM (5Dm6N)
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119 And, can I ask y'all not to post songs as part of playlists? I want to hear the song *you* posted, not the next one, and I don't know how to stop it automatically playing. No, I won't log in, if that's required to stop the autoplay.
Please?
Posted by: GWB
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Comments or content? I try not to do that in the content. Wrong song played one night...pretended like nothing happened.
Please?
Posted by: GWB
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Comments or content? I try not to do that in the content. Wrong song played one night...pretended like nothing happened.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:57 PM (41CYW)
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I had. Convertible for a couple e of years. Problem was the weather was rarely good for it. It was either scorching hot during the day then by the time it got dark it got kinda chilly.
I had like 1-2 hours at dusk, lol.
I had like 1-2 hours at dusk, lol.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:57 PM (ImXfC)
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105 MGA is a beaut. Guess a 300 ci Ford 6 would be too heavy for it.
1498cc is about 91ci or so. iirc, about 68hp.
Quick and light and I had mine up to 105 or so.
1498cc is about 91ci or so. iirc, about 68hp.
Quick and light and I had mine up to 105 or so.
Posted by: clarence at July 14, 2025 10:59 PM (p4TlZ)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at July 14, 2025 11:00 PM (NXz8h)
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76 *peeks in to make sure Doggo covered for me*
*tosses a porterhouse bone his way*
Posted by: Doof
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A true gentleman. I'll go find a place to bury that in the yard.
*tosses a porterhouse bone his way*
Posted by: Doof
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A true gentleman. I'll go find a place to bury that in the yard.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:01 PM (41CYW)
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I can't find it now, but that guy is a dead ringer for one of the pictures we see from time to time representing the religion of peace. That scene from Koln, New Year's 2016. Looks exactly like one of those wild-eyed African men rampaging the women.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (xp7+v)
Looks like the love child of Gollum and David Hogg.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (xp7+v)
Looks like the love child of Gollum and David Hogg.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:02 PM (piB20)
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Archimedes, I didn't bother to open open your link because what is happening now in Minnesota started in 1965 and now it's just crying over the ruins.
Posted by: Long time guy
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I saw him in a video detailing his campaign and the problems with that freak Jacob Frey (too far right, of course). He didn't know what he was saying any more than those Mexican elementary school kids speaking heavily accented English pleading for "humane immigration policies for Central and South Americans, and reasonable opportunities for employment and public assistance [sob]."
He simply lifted Zohran Mamdani's policies and recited them as his own. It's metastasizing.
Archimedes, I didn't bother to open open your link because what is happening now in Minnesota started in 1965 and now it's just crying over the ruins.
Posted by: Long time guy
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I saw him in a video detailing his campaign and the problems with that freak Jacob Frey (too far right, of course). He didn't know what he was saying any more than those Mexican elementary school kids speaking heavily accented English pleading for "humane immigration policies for Central and South Americans, and reasonable opportunities for employment and public assistance [sob]."
He simply lifted Zohran Mamdani's policies and recited them as his own. It's metastasizing.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 11:02 PM (xp7+v)
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116
remember the FIERO?
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 10:53 PM (aTBFc)
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I remember the aftermarket kits that let you turn a Fiero into an ersatz Ferrari Testarossa.
Cheezy, but you might fool some of the dumber dating prospects.
remember the FIERO?
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 10:53 PM (aTBFc)
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I remember the aftermarket kits that let you turn a Fiero into an ersatz Ferrari Testarossa.
Cheezy, but you might fool some of the dumber dating prospects.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 11:02 PM (hY4dx)
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I came home to visit Mom & Dad many years ago and found he had an MG in the driveway in the process of restoration. He had had found one in a farmers field in rural KY, and another in another farmers field. He had never really had any interest in cars before.
I asked him what the deal was and he said finding two MG's that way seemed like a sign. He had one running but it had no floor board. I got a piece of plywood and cut it to shape. My contribution to the project.
I heard he evidently sold them. The next time I saw him was the night before his surgery. I never got the chance to ask him why.
I asked him what the deal was and he said finding two MG's that way seemed like a sign. He had one running but it had no floor board. I got a piece of plywood and cut it to shape. My contribution to the project.
I heard he evidently sold them. The next time I saw him was the night before his surgery. I never got the chance to ask him why.
Posted by: javems at July 14, 2025 11:03 PM (8I4hW)
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Any of the Horde have an old Singer (sewing machine)? Or a repurposed one?
I have a grandmother's, manufactured before the 1920s. It's the sewing machine and table, and also has the bobbins and extra drive belts for the treadle. It can work.
Grandmom (from Europe) could sew anything beautifully including draperies and fine coats for adults. My mother inherited it and made my prom gowns, her dress for (1st) my first marriage, etc. She, too, sewed beautifully when she could find the time & a place to layout, pin & cut patterns. (Four kids and a full time job, too.)
I had home economics in high school and sewed sleeves backwards into a blouse and dress so that was about it for the sewing class.
I have only one cousin on that side of the family who really sews well. She became employed by Singer purely by accident, and rose to executive level with the corporation.
I have a grandmother's, manufactured before the 1920s. It's the sewing machine and table, and also has the bobbins and extra drive belts for the treadle. It can work.
Grandmom (from Europe) could sew anything beautifully including draperies and fine coats for adults. My mother inherited it and made my prom gowns, her dress for (1st) my first marriage, etc. She, too, sewed beautifully when she could find the time & a place to layout, pin & cut patterns. (Four kids and a full time job, too.)
I had home economics in high school and sewed sleeves backwards into a blouse and dress so that was about it for the sewing class.
I have only one cousin on that side of the family who really sews well. She became employed by Singer purely by accident, and rose to executive level with the corporation.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:03 PM (NFX2v)
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Nice ride.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 10:04 PM (viF8m)
The car, or that Sloopy chick?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 10:04 PM (viF8m)
The car, or that Sloopy chick?
Posted by: GWB at July 14, 2025 11:04 PM (/nQF/)
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Toyota 22RE with a 5-speed, from a pickup. Fuel injection, too.
Now you're just being silly. Oo.
Now you're just being silly. Oo.
Posted by: clarence at July 14, 2025 11:04 PM (p4TlZ)
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Buncombe
Rubbish; nonsense; empty or misleading talk.
At last the election year's great festival of buncombe has dimmed to a trickle of murmurs and muttering.
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[throws flag]
Properly, it is 'Bunkum'. Derived from speech(s) delivered before Congress by Sen. Bob Reynolds, of Buncombe County, NC.
He became known as 'Bunkum Bob'. His daughter. Mamie, (from first wife) was, by inheritance, the owner of the Hope Diamond. She used to put it on her Great Dane dog as a collar.
Mamie's life story is pretty amazing. For eample, her first husband was Luigi Coco Chinetti Jr.,
Here's the story: http://tiny.cc/y6ep001
She was a very free spirit, as is evident. The stories here about her are fascinating. Liked fast cars and parties. I know people who knew her, and I live in the shadow of Reynolds mountain, where the Reynolds house still stands.
Rubbish; nonsense; empty or misleading talk.
At last the election year's great festival of buncombe has dimmed to a trickle of murmurs and muttering.
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[throws flag]
Properly, it is 'Bunkum'. Derived from speech(s) delivered before Congress by Sen. Bob Reynolds, of Buncombe County, NC.
He became known as 'Bunkum Bob'. His daughter. Mamie, (from first wife) was, by inheritance, the owner of the Hope Diamond. She used to put it on her Great Dane dog as a collar.
Mamie's life story is pretty amazing. For eample, her first husband was Luigi Coco Chinetti Jr.,
Here's the story: http://tiny.cc/y6ep001
She was a very free spirit, as is evident. The stories here about her are fascinating. Liked fast cars and parties. I know people who knew her, and I live in the shadow of Reynolds mountain, where the Reynolds house still stands.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 11:06 PM (XeU6L)
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>>>He's currently on the bathroom floor, still bleeding, but otherwise the vet didn't seem worried.
Poor little guy.
>>>He's currently on the bathroom floor, still bleeding, but otherwise the vet didn't seem worried.
Poor little guy.
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 11:06 PM (iuPOa)
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I can't find it now, but that guy is a dead ringer for one of the pictures we see from time to time representing the religion of peace. That scene from Koln, New Year's 2016. Looks exactly like one of those wild-eyed African men rampaging the women.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (xp7+v)
you are thinking of this Catturd meme
https://tinyurl.com/3v6wt5vw
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (xp7+v)
you are thinking of this Catturd meme
https://tinyurl.com/3v6wt5vw
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 11:07 PM (D7oie)
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Evening, javems. Always good to see you in the comments.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:07 PM (41CYW)
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True story: the Japanese found the phrase 'sewing machine' too difficult. So they called it 'mishin,' as in machine.
Also, the stapler is called 'hochikisu' after the Hotchkiss stapler brand name.
Also, the stapler is called 'hochikisu' after the Hotchkiss stapler brand name.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:08 PM (mlg/3)
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>>The car, or that Sloopy chick?
The car, of course. Cars and particularly sailboats are sexy. Girls have cooties.
The car, of course. Cars and particularly sailboats are sexy. Girls have cooties.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:08 PM (viF8m)
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Looks like the love child of Gollum and David Hogg.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:02 PM (piB20)
Like the feral kid in Road Warrior.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:02 PM (piB20)
Like the feral kid in Road Warrior.
Posted by: Long time guy at July 14, 2025 11:08 PM (B7IUE)
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Now you're just being silly. Oo.
Posted by: clarence at July 14, 2025 11:04 PM (p4TlZ)
I've owned Brit cars. They had heavy 4-cylinders with really small bores, and really long strokes, an artifact of the weird British tax laws. And their gearboxes tended to have glass gears, too. The Toyota engine and transmission ought to fit right well, and weigh less, overall. I would upgrade the brakes, too. And it could all be done without messing up the exterior beauty of the car.
Posted by: clarence at July 14, 2025 11:04 PM (p4TlZ)
I've owned Brit cars. They had heavy 4-cylinders with really small bores, and really long strokes, an artifact of the weird British tax laws. And their gearboxes tended to have glass gears, too. The Toyota engine and transmission ought to fit right well, and weigh less, overall. I would upgrade the brakes, too. And it could all be done without messing up the exterior beauty of the car.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:10 PM (piB20)
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MGA is a beaut. Guess a 300 ci Ford 6 would be too heavy for it.
1498cc is about 91ci or so. iirc, about 68hp.
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I was surprised when they shoehorned both 6's and V8's into the MGB-GT's
1498cc is about 91ci or so. iirc, about 68hp.
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I was surprised when they shoehorned both 6's and V8's into the MGB-GT's
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 11:10 PM (XeU6L)
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And their gearboxes tended to have glass gears, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I'm sorry, WHAT?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I'm sorry, WHAT?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:10 PM (mlg/3)
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That MG up top is beautiful. Buddy from NJ had one in white he brought down to San Diego in the early 80s when we were both in the Navy down there. Loved that car. One night, a group of five of us got a little inebriated of which I was voted the least so I drove while three others sat on the trunk facing forward w feet behind those front seats. The SD cops weren't amused and pulled me over .....on a hill. I pushed in the clutch, brake slipped and I rolled back into the front of the cop car. They still weren't amused. How I got off w/o a citation is a testament to how times have changed, no doubt for the better.
Posted by: Ranger Steve at July 14, 2025 11:11 PM (WbcL6)
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The face of Minneapolis has changed. Here's the Democrat's candidate for mayor, Omar Fateh.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 PM
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Could be the BroFo's brother.
https://is.gd/un8gwY
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 PM
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Could be the BroFo's brother.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 11:11 PM (/lPRQ)
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you are thinking of this Catturd meme
https://tinyurl.com/3v6wt5vw
Posted by: Kindltot
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The face is similar, but it's a different picture, I think literally from 2016. A bunch of mobbing men, and the next mayor of Minneapolis staring glazedly at the camera, looking as intelligent and self-determined as a zombie 28 days later.
you are thinking of this Catturd meme
https://tinyurl.com/3v6wt5vw
Posted by: Kindltot
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The face is similar, but it's a different picture, I think literally from 2016. A bunch of mobbing men, and the next mayor of Minneapolis staring glazedly at the camera, looking as intelligent and self-determined as a zombie 28 days later.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 11:12 PM (xp7+v)
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I'm sorry, WHAT?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:10 PM (mlg/3)
Not literally glass. But the gears were hardened to the point of being brittle, and could break. And on the older cars, first gear was not synchronized, so a bad shift into first would take chips off the gears.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:10 PM (mlg/3)
Not literally glass. But the gears were hardened to the point of being brittle, and could break. And on the older cars, first gear was not synchronized, so a bad shift into first would take chips off the gears.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:15 PM (piB20)
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remember the FIERO?
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover
IIRC there was an aftermarket kit to hang a 400ci V8 off the ass end of it.
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover
IIRC there was an aftermarket kit to hang a 400ci V8 off the ass end of it.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 11:16 PM (/lPRQ)
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SpaceX/Axiom-Space - Axiom-4 - Deorbit & Splashdown Pacific
Approximately 2:31 a.m. PDT (5:31 a.m. EDT, 0931 UTC, 10:31 CEST) on Tuesday, July 15.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaK-tV3LbTc
Approximately 2:31 a.m. PDT (5:31 a.m. EDT, 0931 UTC, 10:31 CEST) on Tuesday, July 15.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaK-tV3LbTc
Posted by: Joyenz at July 14, 2025 11:17 PM (sPQoU)
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One of the best cars I ever owned was a 1974 Porsche 914. It was well used by the time I got it but I rebuilt most...
Posted by: JackStraw
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In 74, a guy I worked with had a 914. While the rest of us were scheduling grocery runs or waiting in line for gas, he and his wife would drive from the SF peninsula to Yosemite for the weekend, because he could do the round-trip on a tank and have enough gas left for his commute.
Close to 40 mpg and a 13 gal tank.
Posted by: JackStraw
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In 74, a guy I worked with had a 914. While the rest of us were scheduling grocery runs or waiting in line for gas, he and his wife would drive from the SF peninsula to Yosemite for the weekend, because he could do the round-trip on a tank and have enough gas left for his commute.
Close to 40 mpg and a 13 gal tank.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 11:17 PM (n3kHr)
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you are thinking of this Catturd meme
https://tinyurl.com/3v6wt5vw
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 11:07 PM (D7oie)
I was expecting "Look at me- I'm da captain now", but will accept this.
https://tinyurl.com/3v6wt5vw
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 11:07 PM (D7oie)
I was expecting "Look at me- I'm da captain now", but will accept this.
Posted by: sal at July 14, 2025 11:19 PM (f+FmA)
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Ever read horror stories about a homeowners heating oil tank busting and the subsequent hundreds of thousands of dollars they spend for cleanup?
Never tell anyone about an oil leak. You call your hvac plumber and guess what? He MUST report it or insist You report it or else he won't get involved.
Posted by: Soothsayer
I was shitting bricks when I sold the old house a few years ago. There was an old oil tank in the ground since the 50's, and hadn't been used since the early 70's when they ran gas lines. Well, no way could I sell the house with a tank in the ground, so I had somebody remove the tank. the first thing he did was test the soil around the tank. It came up clean, so we decided to to pull it. the soil here is pretty sandy, so it was well drained soil. The out side of the tank had only surface rust, no rot, as if it was in the ground for only a year, and it was a super thick gauge of steel. I dodged a bullet with that one. The inspector wanted the tank cut in half so he could inspect it. He took a look and slapped the sticker on it, and said yeah no problem here. If there was a soil problem I would have yanked it in darkness. Tank? what tank? lol
Never tell anyone about an oil leak. You call your hvac plumber and guess what? He MUST report it or insist You report it or else he won't get involved.
Posted by: Soothsayer
I was shitting bricks when I sold the old house a few years ago. There was an old oil tank in the ground since the 50's, and hadn't been used since the early 70's when they ran gas lines. Well, no way could I sell the house with a tank in the ground, so I had somebody remove the tank. the first thing he did was test the soil around the tank. It came up clean, so we decided to to pull it. the soil here is pretty sandy, so it was well drained soil. The out side of the tank had only surface rust, no rot, as if it was in the ground for only a year, and it was a super thick gauge of steel. I dodged a bullet with that one. The inspector wanted the tank cut in half so he could inspect it. He took a look and slapped the sticker on it, and said yeah no problem here. If there was a soil problem I would have yanked it in darkness. Tank? what tank? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 11:20 PM (snZF9)
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Glen Campbell made some good music.
My son and I share some favorite bands. He called me a while back and said “Midland has a new song, it’s really good. Wichita Lineman”.
I could only hang my head at my failure to educate.
My son and I share some favorite bands. He called me a while back and said “Midland has a new song, it’s really good. Wichita Lineman”.
I could only hang my head at my failure to educate.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 14, 2025 11:21 PM (0v3JH)
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It is unclear if this is a flounce, unbridled or otherwise. Be better.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:44 PM (Riz8t)
It was a Larry David / George Costanza flounce.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:44 PM (Riz8t)
It was a Larry David / George Costanza flounce.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 11:21 PM (YQdCi)
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Joyenz, I know money is tight, but maybe another vet should look?
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 11:21 PM (pZEOD)
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>>In 74, a guy I worked with had a 914. While the rest of us were scheduling grocery runs or waiting in line for gas, he and his wife would drive from the SF peninsula to Yosemite for the weekend, because he could do the round-trip on a tank and have enough gas left for his commute.
Close to 40 mpg and a 13 gal tank.
It was largely a VW product, not a real Porsche. It was pretty quick in gear but not a rocket off the line but the handling was exceptional. Mid-engine. I was living in Boston and most of my driving was city and it was like driving a go kart around town. Lots of fun in that environment. And yea, it sipped gas.
Close to 40 mpg and a 13 gal tank.
It was largely a VW product, not a real Porsche. It was pretty quick in gear but not a rocket off the line but the handling was exceptional. Mid-engine. I was living in Boston and most of my driving was city and it was like driving a go kart around town. Lots of fun in that environment. And yea, it sipped gas.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:24 PM (viF8m)
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Oh, I remember the Fiero alright.
Posted by: Zombie Walter Mondale at July 14, 2025 11:24 PM (+xk6Q)
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Not literally glass. But the gears were hardened to the point of being brittle, and could break. And on the older cars, first gear was not synchronized, so a bad shift into first would take chips off the gears.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Oh, ok. I thought you were being transparent there, but clearly, on reflection, it was a bit of a fractured tale.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Oh, ok. I thought you were being transparent there, but clearly, on reflection, it was a bit of a fractured tale.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:24 PM (mlg/3)
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139 Evening, javems. Always good to see you in the comments.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:07 PM (41CYW)
Thank you sir. Hope you and yours are well.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:07 PM (41CYW)
Thank you sir. Hope you and yours are well.
Posted by: javems at July 14, 2025 11:24 PM (8I4hW)
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Cool! I'm dressing like a sexy pumpkin this year!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (hY4dx)
Wouldn't that be a little too orange for a lefty like Lena?
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (hY4dx)
Wouldn't that be a little too orange for a lefty like Lena?
Posted by: RickZ at July 14, 2025 11:25 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:27 PM (lPvx2)
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the Democrat's candidate for mayor, Omar Fateh.
Thanks, Lutherans!
And bless you too, Catholic Charities.
Thanks, Lutherans!
And bless you too, Catholic Charities.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 11:27 PM (gKWVE)
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IIRC there was an aftermarket kit to hang a 400ci V8 off the ass end of it.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
I think for a few years in the 80's, kit cars 'kits' were made for the Fiero to look like a Ferrari.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
I think for a few years in the 80's, kit cars 'kits' were made for the Fiero to look like a Ferrari.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:28 PM (mlg/3)
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164 the Democrat's candidate for mayor, Omar Fateh.
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I think he said, the Mayor is near.
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I think he said, the Mayor is near.
Posted by: Olson Johnson at July 14, 2025 11:28 PM (hY4dx)
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the AH "Bug-eye" Sprite on the same frame did. The whole front tilted forward.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 10:49 PM
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Family member had a Bugeye Sprite. Was a very small, but fun car.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 10:49 PM
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Family member had a Bugeye Sprite. Was a very small, but fun car.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)
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Cool! I'm dressing like a sexy pumpkin this year!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (hY4dx)
Bleagh
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (hY4dx)
Bleagh
Posted by: Snoopy at July 14, 2025 11:29 PM (zLwRl)
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>>>If there was a soil problem I would have yanked it in darkness. Tank? what tank? lol
Posted by: Berserker
Precisely.
>>>If there was a soil problem I would have yanked it in darkness. Tank? what tank? lol
Posted by: Berserker
Precisely.
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 11:29 PM (iuPOa)
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It was largely a VW product, not a real Porsche. It was pretty quick in gear but not a rocket off the line but the handling was exceptional. Mid-engine. I was living in Boston and most of my driving was city and it was like driving a go kart around town. Lots of fun in that environment. And yea, it sipped gas.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:24 PM (viF8m)
Mid-engine means low polar moment of inertia. Car is easy to maneuver. Downside might be that irregularities in the road, or strong crosswinds, could deflect it off course, making corrections necessary.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:24 PM (viF8m)
Mid-engine means low polar moment of inertia. Car is easy to maneuver. Downside might be that irregularities in the road, or strong crosswinds, could deflect it off course, making corrections necessary.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:30 PM (piB20)
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Joyenz, I know money is tight, but maybe another vet should look?
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 11:21 PM (pZEOD)
I messaged our vet on Facebook when he started bleeding all over me tonight. She said if the antibiotics doesn't work, then they'll do bloodwork, etc. The visit today used up the last of my Sister's paycheck that she was using for cat food. I don't know how we can see another vet right now. Because of the debt we're currently in with our vet, they will no longer see our cats without immediate payment.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 11:21 PM (pZEOD)
I messaged our vet on Facebook when he started bleeding all over me tonight. She said if the antibiotics doesn't work, then they'll do bloodwork, etc. The visit today used up the last of my Sister's paycheck that she was using for cat food. I don't know how we can see another vet right now. Because of the debt we're currently in with our vet, they will no longer see our cats without immediate payment.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 14, 2025 11:30 PM (sPQoU)
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Cool! I'm dressing like a sexy pumpkin this year!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (hY4dx)
They'll just mistake you for a gas giant.
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 14, 2025 10:56 PM (hY4dx)
They'll just mistake you for a gas giant.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 11:31 PM (snZF9)
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My son and I share some favorite bands. He called me a while back and said “Midland has a new song, it’s really good. Wichita Lineman”.
I could only hang my head at my failure to educate.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 14, 2025 11:21 PM (0v3JH)
Wait until he tells you he just heard this amazing new song Cats in the Cradle.
I could only hang my head at my failure to educate.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 14, 2025 11:21 PM (0v3JH)
Wait until he tells you he just heard this amazing new song Cats in the Cradle.
Posted by: Long time guy at July 14, 2025 11:32 PM (B7IUE)
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They'll just mistake you for a gas giant.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 11:31 PM (snZF9)
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*cue joke about Uranus*
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 11:31 PM (snZF9)
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*cue joke about Uranus*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 11:32 PM (hY4dx)
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Family member had a Bugeye Sprite. Was a very small, but fun car.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)
IIRC, the bugeye Sprite was its own model. When the MGB was introduced, they also brought out the MG Midget, using Sprite mechanicals, and made both Sprite and Midget models nearly identical, on the same platform. Car guys called them the "Spridget". About the only distinction was the nameplate.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)
IIRC, the bugeye Sprite was its own model. When the MGB was introduced, they also brought out the MG Midget, using Sprite mechanicals, and made both Sprite and Midget models nearly identical, on the same platform. Car guys called them the "Spridget". About the only distinction was the nameplate.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:34 PM (piB20)
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>>Mid-engine means low polar moment of inertia. Car is easy to maneuver. Downside might be that irregularities in the road, or strong crosswinds, could deflect it off course, making corrections necessary.
Front end was really light. Great road feel under good conditions but you felt it when you got on the highway and tramlining could be an issue.
You had to drive that car but boy howdy was it fun.
Front end was really light. Great road feel under good conditions but you felt it when you got on the highway and tramlining could be an issue.
You had to drive that car but boy howdy was it fun.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:35 PM (viF8m)
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I think for a few years in the 80's, kit cars 'kits' were made for the Fiero to look like a Ferrari.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:28 PM (mlg/3)
My favorite was called the “Geraldine”. The Geraldine Ferraro.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:28 PM (mlg/3)
My favorite was called the “Geraldine”. The Geraldine Ferraro.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 14, 2025 11:35 PM (0v3JH)
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Mid-engine = terrible cooling
Mid-engine = terrible cooling
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 11:37 PM (KFNTP)
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Mid-engine = terrible cooling
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 11:37 PM (KFNTP)
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That's easily cured with monster scoops on each side.
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 11:37 PM (KFNTP)
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That's easily cured with monster scoops on each side.
Posted by: The C8 Corvette at July 14, 2025 11:38 PM (hY4dx)
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Good evening horde from beautiful Sonoma y gracias Perro
Pretty sure I watched the 1980 convention gavel to gavel but not sure I would noticed they were wasted.
Pretty sure I watched the 1980 convention gavel to gavel but not sure I would noticed they were wasted.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 11:39 PM (JvZF+)
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Best name in high school sports: Rowdy Neighbor (wrestling - Iowa)
Runner up: Cash Compliment (Football - Kentucky)
Runner up: Cash Compliment (Football - Kentucky)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:40 PM (DIweC)
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Every few years I buy a convertible and it always makes me remember that I really like a coupe. With lots of horsepower. Brakes are nice as well. Good brakes even better.
No sooner than the vertible is sold than my lovely wife says “ I can’t believe you sold my car!”
No sooner than the vertible is sold than my lovely wife says “ I can’t believe you sold my car!”
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 14, 2025 11:41 PM (0v3JH)
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 14, 2025 11:45 PM (KFNTP)
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Franpsycho you doing wine stuff up there? Used to visit the area twice a year or more (from the east coast), back when it was still pretty sleepy. Beautiful indeed. Have you ever sat on the deck at Fort Ross Winery, in the sun, with the marine layer below you?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2025 11:46 PM (1m82a)
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>>Mid-engine = terrible cooling
Enormously hard to access and a pain in the ass to work on.
Like pretty women.
Enormously hard to access and a pain in the ass to work on.
Like pretty women.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:46 PM (viF8m)
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Best name in college sports I recall was way back about 1970, Fresno State football team.
Atomic Torosian
Armenian immigrant parents no doubt, he was probably born in the Armenian SSR. "Atomic" was a post-war "patriotic" (stronk!) Soviet surname, like "Traktor" and "Electrifikatsiya" had been in the 30s during the hero-project era.
Atomic Torosian
Armenian immigrant parents no doubt, he was probably born in the Armenian SSR. "Atomic" was a post-war "patriotic" (stronk!) Soviet surname, like "Traktor" and "Electrifikatsiya" had been in the 30s during the hero-project era.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2025 11:49 PM (1m82a)
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It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 11:50 PM (t2z+i)
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Enormously hard to access and a pain in the ass to work on.
Like pretty women.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:46 PM (viF8m)
You are doing it wrong.
Like pretty women.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:46 PM (viF8m)
You are doing it wrong.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 14, 2025 11:51 PM (0v3JH)
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My favorite was called the “Geraldine”. The Geraldine Ferraro.
Posted by: Pete Bog
Go to your room~!
Posted by: Pete Bog
Go to your room~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:51 PM (mlg/3)
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Years later, I am in St. Louis and looking for a car. I found a 72 MGB. Nice condition, decent price. So I put $200 down to hold it for the bank loan. I have a business trip the next week, so I tell the salesman that I'll call him from the road. I call him at lunch time. He says that there was no problem with the bank wanting to loan on the car but they could not sell the car to me.
I ask why and he is reluctant to tell me why. I finally drag the story out of him. Seems they left the car out on the lot and one of the other salesman gave the keys to a kid, probably a relative, for a test drive. Kid starts it up and starts revving it up and pops the clutch. PING!!! Two rods through the hood and a couple through the block. So, yeah, I really did not want a car that needed a new engine.
I ask why and he is reluctant to tell me why. I finally drag the story out of him. Seems they left the car out on the lot and one of the other salesman gave the keys to a kid, probably a relative, for a test drive. Kid starts it up and starts revving it up and pops the clutch. PING!!! Two rods through the hood and a couple through the block. So, yeah, I really did not want a car that needed a new engine.
Posted by: clarence at July 14, 2025 11:52 PM (p4TlZ)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 11:55 PM (viF8m)
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Oh, ok. I thought you were being transparent there, but clearly, on reflection, it was a bit of a fractured tale.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:24 PM (mlg/3)
I thought he was crystal clear.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:24 PM (mlg/3)
I thought he was crystal clear.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 11:56 PM (YQdCi)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 11:58 PM (mT+6a)
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It was largely a VW product, not a real Porsche. It was pretty quick in gear but not a rocket off the line but the handling was exceptional. Mid-engine. I was living in Boston and most of my driving was city and it was like driving a go kart around town. Lots of fun in that environment. And yea, it sipped gas.
Posted by: JackStraw
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A few years later, at a different company, another cow-orker had a 914-6. That wasn't VW. He didn't race it, but he did compete in Gymkhana events with it and did pretty well. Spent more money on tires than on the rest of the car.
Posted by: JackStraw
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A few years later, at a different company, another cow-orker had a 914-6. That wasn't VW. He didn't race it, but he did compete in Gymkhana events with it and did pretty well. Spent more money on tires than on the rest of the car.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 11:59 PM (n3kHr)
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And, can I ask y'all not to post songs as part of playlists? I want to hear the song *you* posted, not the next one, and I don't know how to stop it automatically playing. No, I won't log in, if that's required to stop the autoplay. Please?
Posted by: GWB
One thing is, just stop the playback at the end of the video. Or close the tab. Which of course requires attention.
Alternately, here's a sample URL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6re3PCP3E
&list=PLeDakahyfrO-S4nfovG7NxPODGlMFdtPn
In the address field, just remove everything from (and including) "the &list=" through the end of the URL and enter to reload the video alone. Yeah, it's a hassle.
Agreed, preferable if folks not link to a list item. But folks do.
Posted by: GWB
One thing is, just stop the playback at the end of the video. Or close the tab. Which of course requires attention.
Alternately, here's a sample URL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6re3PCP3E
&list=PLeDakahyfrO-S4nfovG7NxPODGlMFdtPn
In the address field, just remove everything from (and including) "the &list=" through the end of the URL and enter to reload the video alone. Yeah, it's a hassle.
Agreed, preferable if folks not link to a list item. But folks do.
Posted by: mindful webworker - steam power, baby! at July 15, 2025 12:01 AM (+kBwA)
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I ask why and he is reluctant to tell me why. I finally drag the story out of him. Seems they left the car out on the lot and one of the other salesman gave the keys to a kid, probably a relative, for a test drive. Kid starts it up and starts revving it up and pops the clutch. PING!!! Two rods through the hood and a couple through the block. So, yeah, I really did not want a car that needed a new engine.
Posted by: clarence at July 14, 2025 11:52 PM (p4TlZ)
I would have been tempted to tell the dealer: "You have my $200. You just let a kid turn the car into scrap. A scrap dealer will give you a hundred bucks for it, tops. Give me the car and the title for my 200 simoleons, and we're good."
Posted by: clarence at July 14, 2025 11:52 PM (p4TlZ)
I would have been tempted to tell the dealer: "You have my $200. You just let a kid turn the car into scrap. A scrap dealer will give you a hundred bucks for it, tops. Give me the car and the title for my 200 simoleons, and we're good."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2025 12:07 AM (piB20)
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>>A few years later, at a different company, another cow-orker had a 914-6. That wasn't VW. He didn't race it, but he did compete in Gymkhana events with it and did pretty well. Spent more money on tires than on the rest of the car.
I wanted a 6 but couldn't find one even remotely in my price range at the time. Different animal.
Boxster convertible is my target now.
I wanted a 6 but couldn't find one even remotely in my price range at the time. Different animal.
Boxster convertible is my target now.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:08 AM (viF8m)
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In the address field, just remove everything from (and including) "the &list=" through the end of the URL and enter to reload the video alone. Yeah, it's a hassle.
Agreed, preferable if folks not link to a list item. But folks do.
Posted by: mindful webworker - steam power, baby!
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It's a sentence ya da ya da & such and such. At the & and everything else forward - > delete.
Also if it has a tedious intro or it's something in the middle that you want to highlight, right click at that spot and you will be given the option to start the playback at that spot.
Agreed, preferable if folks not link to a list item. But folks do.
Posted by: mindful webworker - steam power, baby!
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It's a sentence ya da ya da & such and such. At the & and everything else forward - > delete.
Also if it has a tedious intro or it's something in the middle that you want to highlight, right click at that spot and you will be given the option to start the playback at that spot.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 12:10 AM (Kq8pV)
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Had my eye on a 914 until I got the insurance quote. Ended up with a '79 Corvette - insurance was quite a bit more reasonable. Got rid of my 1969 Toyota Landcruiser FJ40 with a 283 in it - after buying the Corvette. Big dummy move - I'd like to have that Landcruiser back.
Posted by: scampydog at July 15, 2025 12:12 AM (41CYW)
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GTS
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:12 AM (viF8m)
201
Grand Old Retards
@LeadingReport
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6m
BREAKING: House Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to force the release of the Epstein files.
@LeadingReport
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6m
BREAKING: House Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to force the release of the Epstein files.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 12:14 AM (mlg/3)
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While looking at the Toyota Cross the reviewer suggested I take a look at the Chevy Trax. OK. Stopped reading at, 'the spirited three cylinder engine', yes that's what I'm looking for, a three cylinder engine.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 12:15 AM (Kq8pV)
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Stopped reading at, 'the spirited three cylinder engine'
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LOL.
So, *that's* what happened to all those Geo Metro leftovers...
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LOL.
So, *that's* what happened to all those Geo Metro leftovers...
Posted by: JQ at July 15, 2025 12:17 AM (rdVOm)
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In the "cars I never owned but neighbor/buddy/cousin did and coveted it" category I'll throw this out:
Neighbor, 1968. Elva Courier MkIV.
Only the real car nuts will know that without the goog.
Bounced the back of my head on the rollbar every time he shifted.
Neighbor, 1968. Elva Courier MkIV.
Only the real car nuts will know that without the goog.
Bounced the back of my head on the rollbar every time he shifted.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 15, 2025 12:17 AM (n3kHr)
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119 And, can I ask y'all not to post songs as part of playlists? I want to hear the song *you* posted, not the next one, and I don't know how to stop it automatically playing. No, I won't log in, if that's required to stop the autoplay.
Please?
Posted by: GWB
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Comments or content? I try not to do that in the content. Wrong song played one night...pretended like nothing happened.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:57 PM (41CYW)
Content. All of the above songs are playlists, including the mystery click. (Which is a great choice, btw.)
Please?
Posted by: GWB
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Comments or content? I try not to do that in the content. Wrong song played one night...pretended like nothing happened.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 10:57 PM (41CYW)
Content. All of the above songs are playlists, including the mystery click. (Which is a great choice, btw.)
Posted by: GWB at July 15, 2025 12:18 AM (/nQF/)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 15, 2025 12:18 AM (HlyYF)
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BREAKING: House Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to force the release of the Epstein files.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 12:14 AM (mlg/3)
This irritates me to no end. They protect these elite criminals, but the average joe gets prosecuted to hell and gone for lesser crimes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 12:14 AM (mlg/3)
This irritates me to no end. They protect these elite criminals, but the average joe gets prosecuted to hell and gone for lesser crimes.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 15, 2025 12:19 AM (sPQoU)
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Content. All of the above songs are playlists, including the mystery click. (Which is a great choice, btw.)
Posted by: GWB
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll try to clean that up in the future - thinking I know why/how to rectify. I appreciate the heads up.
Posted by: GWB
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll try to clean that up in the future - thinking I know why/how to rectify. I appreciate the heads up.
Posted by: scampydog at July 15, 2025 12:20 AM (41CYW)
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The repetition within the toddler "tongue twisters" was interesting.
Daughter #2 had an example of that. Our children's science museum is called Exploration Place.
She called it Eca-eca place.
We still call it that 23 years later!
Daughter #2 had an example of that. Our children's science museum is called Exploration Place.
She called it Eca-eca place.
We still call it that 23 years later!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 15, 2025 12:21 AM (HlyYF)
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omit.
If you are a programmer writing comments or commit messages, this word is key. Explaining why something *isn't there* is the most valuable kind of comment, and without this four-letter word you would often be resorting to some prodigious periphrasis.
Another word that is often handy is "seldom."
I see neither of my favorites made the list!
If you are a programmer writing comments or commit messages, this word is key. Explaining why something *isn't there* is the most valuable kind of comment, and without this four-letter word you would often be resorting to some prodigious periphrasis.
Another word that is often handy is "seldom."
I see neither of my favorites made the list!
Posted by: pjungwir at July 15, 2025 12:22 AM (q4wrI)
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@LeadingReport
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BREAKING: House Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to force the release of the Epstein files.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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There's some Pubbies on that list.
They don't understand that Dershowitz, as replayed by MeAgain Kelly, gave them cover.
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6m
BREAKING: House Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to force the release of the Epstein files.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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There's some Pubbies on that list.
They don't understand that Dershowitz, as replayed by MeAgain Kelly, gave them cover.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 12:23 AM (Kq8pV)
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Boxster convertible is my target now.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:08 AM (viF8m)
Watch out for beautiful women!
Is the GTS the model with the Carrera engine?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:08 AM (viF8m)
Watch out for beautiful women!
Is the GTS the model with the Carrera engine?
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 15, 2025 12:26 AM (0v3JH)
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>>This irritates me to no end. They protect these elite criminals, but the average joe gets prosecuted to hell and gone for lesser crimes.
How does all this make you feel? Just because it isn't being reported in the clickbait media doesn't mean it isn't happening.
https://tinyurl.com/5fywevy8
How does all this make you feel? Just because it isn't being reported in the clickbait media doesn't mean it isn't happening.
https://tinyurl.com/5fywevy8
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:28 AM (viF8m)
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Well, I am off to the rack. Got to get an early one tomorrow. Night, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2025 12:30 AM (OvO3C)
Posted by: pjungwir at July 15, 2025 12:31 AM (q4wrI)
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I don't know exactly many 914-6s were built and imported, but , IIRC, it was well under 2000.
Chevy small block into an FJ40 was a classic swap. I helped a friend do it. I think it was advanced adapters that made the mounts and trans adapter SB350 and TH350.
60 pounds lighter, 80 more HP and milage went from 14 to 19.9
Chevy small block into an FJ40 was a classic swap. I helped a friend do it. I think it was advanced adapters that made the mounts and trans adapter SB350 and TH350.
60 pounds lighter, 80 more HP and milage went from 14 to 19.9
Posted by: buddhaha at July 15, 2025 12:34 AM (n3kHr)
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steatopygic.
Learned this year from The Moving Toyshop by Edmund Crispin. Look it up.
Posted by: pjungwir at July 15, 2025 12:31 AM (q4wrI)
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Callipygic is better.
Learned this year from The Moving Toyshop by Edmund Crispin. Look it up.
Posted by: pjungwir at July 15, 2025 12:31 AM (q4wrI)
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Callipygic is better.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 15, 2025 12:34 AM (XZ5S6)
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Alan Dershowitz giving Republicans, or any of the characters involved, cover from complicity.
youtu.be/cykkvQJ45R4?t=47
Alan Dershowitz giving Republicans, or any of the characters involved, cover from complicity.
youtu.be/cykkvQJ45R4?t=47
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (Kq8pV)
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>>Is the GTS the model with the Carrera engine?
I don't know if it's identical but it's a 4 liter 6 clynder 394 hp monster. The Spyder RS is much faster but that thing is crazy expensive.
The GTS is more than enough for me.
I don't know if it's identical but it's a 4 liter 6 clynder 394 hp monster. The Spyder RS is much faster but that thing is crazy expensive.
The GTS is more than enough for me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (viF8m)
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If you are a programmer writing comments or commit messages, this word is key. Explaining why something *isn't there* is the most valuable kind of comment, and without this four-letter word you would often be resorting to some prodigious periphrasis
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One of the most memorable comments that I ever encountered in some else's code, was in 6502 assembly language. I won't mention the product, but some of you who are over 29 would have used it.
At any rate, the comment pertained to a section of the code and read 'This is just too complicated to explain.'
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One of the most memorable comments that I ever encountered in some else's code, was in 6502 assembly language. I won't mention the product, but some of you who are over 29 would have used it.
At any rate, the comment pertained to a section of the code and read 'This is just too complicated to explain.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (XeU6L)
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When I was little, my folks said I pronounced "Warner Brothers" as "Wanna Banos," (we lived a few miles from the studios,)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 15, 2025 12:37 AM (XZ5S6)
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BREAKING: House Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to force the release of the Epstein files.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 12:14 AM (mlg/3)
This irritates me to no end. They protect these elite criminals, but the average joe gets prosecuted to hell and gone for lesser crimes.
Posted by: Joyenz
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Yeah.
I'd let that flow.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 12:14 AM (mlg/3)
This irritates me to no end. They protect these elite criminals, but the average joe gets prosecuted to hell and gone for lesser crimes.
Posted by: Joyenz
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Yeah.
I'd let that flow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 12:38 AM (/lPRQ)
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Posted by: buddhaha at July 15, 2025 12:34 AM
Yes. Advanced Adapters sold kits for transplanting a SB350 into just about anything.
(XH was really into that stuff)
Yes. Advanced Adapters sold kits for transplanting a SB350 into just about anything.
(XH was really into that stuff)
Posted by: JQ at July 15, 2025 12:39 AM (rdVOm)
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'This is just too complicated to explain.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36
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I think that applies to trying to fold a fitted sheet also.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36
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I think that applies to trying to fold a fitted sheet also.
Posted by: scampydog at July 15, 2025 12:40 AM (41CYW)
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How does all this make you feel? Just because it isn't being reported in the clickbait media doesn't mean it isn't happening.
https://tinyurl.com/5fywevy8
Posted by: JackStraw a
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He said, ordinary Joe's being prosecuted.
Apples and oranges. They are fired, boo hoo.
If the shoe is on the other foot there would be ten show trials with big names.
https://tinyurl.com/5fywevy8
Posted by: JackStraw a
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He said, ordinary Joe's being prosecuted.
Apples and oranges. They are fired, boo hoo.
If the shoe is on the other foot there would be ten show trials with big names.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 12:40 AM (Kq8pV)
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Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:28 AM (viF8m)
I'm glad they are getting purged. For the girls who were violated, I want the abusers named, shamed, arrested and prosecuted. I have little confidence in our government (R or D) to actually hold people accountable. I hope I am wrong and can celebrate prosecutions in the future.
I'm glad they are getting purged. For the girls who were violated, I want the abusers named, shamed, arrested and prosecuted. I have little confidence in our government (R or D) to actually hold people accountable. I hope I am wrong and can celebrate prosecutions in the future.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 15, 2025 12:41 AM (sPQoU)
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Hurdy Gurdy:
https://youtu.be/bvNZeh6f8vE?si=W6G4ZgYRYH_LpQM_
https://youtu.be/ypuaJLHK_LQ?si=443BlgUN2dvnujn5
The atmospheric thing for me to play while wearing my wendigo stilt costume.
https://youtu.be/bvNZeh6f8vE?si=W6G4ZgYRYH_LpQM_
https://youtu.be/ypuaJLHK_LQ?si=443BlgUN2dvnujn5
The atmospheric thing for me to play while wearing my wendigo stilt costume.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 15, 2025 12:42 AM (lhenN)
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So
this is the end
at last
All good things
end
including Mondays
'Til Tuesday, then, my friends
G'nite, y'all.
this is the end
at last
All good things
end
including Mondays
'Til Tuesday, then, my friends
G'nite, y'all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - that's a wrap at July 15, 2025 12:46 AM (+kBwA)
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Dad had an old CJ series Jeep with a 283 and the starter had to be replaced. Regular 283 starter was too long, wouldn't fit.
Hauled it over to a shop that specialized in electrical systems.
It was a starter for an inboard/outboard motor, shorter and fatter.
Fit right in the slot.
Hauled it over to a shop that specialized in electrical systems.
It was a starter for an inboard/outboard motor, shorter and fatter.
Fit right in the slot.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 12:46 AM (Kq8pV)
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Uh, 'Hurdy Gurdy Man' - Donovan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHxfOZH8cew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHxfOZH8cew
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:46 AM (XeU6L)
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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:03 PM (NFX2v)
What a wonderful family story!
What a wonderful family story!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2025 12:47 AM (Vvh2V)
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Sorry I'm late, I was counting licks for a Tootsie Pop.
It's actually more than three.
Posted by: tankdemon
Gotta sharpen your beak a bit more, then.
It's actually more than three.
Posted by: tankdemon
Gotta sharpen your beak a bit more, then.
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 12:47 AM (DgGvY)
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steatopygic.
Learned this year from The Moving Toyshop by Edmund Crispin. Look it up.
Posted by: pjungwir
Hard to rhyme, so it ain't in my rap.
Learned this year from The Moving Toyshop by Edmund Crispin. Look it up.
Posted by: pjungwir
Hard to rhyme, so it ain't in my rap.
Posted by: Sir Mix-a-Lot at July 15, 2025 12:49 AM (DgGvY)
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>>I'm glad they are getting purged. For the girls who were violated, I want the abusers named, shamed, arrested and prosecuted. I have little confidence in our government (R or D) to actually hold people accountable. I hope I am wrong and can celebrate prosecutions in the future.
6 months ago almost nobody here believed Trump was going to win and anyone would be purged. No body. I heard it daily.
What has happened over the last few months is probably the most remarkable turnaround in US history. It will be written about in history books long after all of are gone. And pretty much everyone here said none of this would ever happen.
Everyone needs to take a deep breathe and appreciate how far we've come in a few months and stop listening the clickbait idiots. It gets tiring hearing the same people who said Trump can't win now saying "Are we there yet?" over and over.
Have a bit of patience.
6 months ago almost nobody here believed Trump was going to win and anyone would be purged. No body. I heard it daily.
What has happened over the last few months is probably the most remarkable turnaround in US history. It will be written about in history books long after all of are gone. And pretty much everyone here said none of this would ever happen.
Everyone needs to take a deep breathe and appreciate how far we've come in a few months and stop listening the clickbait idiots. It gets tiring hearing the same people who said Trump can't win now saying "Are we there yet?" over and over.
Have a bit of patience.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:49 AM (viF8m)
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Good evening Horde. Well done Doggo!
Posted by: TRex - past my bedtime at July 15, 2025 12:51 AM (QATj/)
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BREAKING: House Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to force the release of the Epstein files.
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Awesome optics, guys
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Awesome optics, guys
Posted by: Snoopy at July 15, 2025 12:52 AM (zLwRl)
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Favorite Dino. Good evening.
Posted by: scampydog at July 15, 2025 12:53 AM (41CYW)
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Evenin’, All. Evenin’, Scampy.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 12:54 AM (77rzZ)
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Hey Horde, how is everybody tonight?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 15, 2025 12:54 AM (0nHVk)
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BREAKING: House Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to force the release of the Epstein files.
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Awesome optics, guys
Posted by: Snoopy
Republican voter: My guy doinked a 17-year-old? Woodchipper!!
Democrat voter: My guy doinked an 11-year-old? Can I still get muh 'bortions? Vote him back in!
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Awesome optics, guys
Posted by: Snoopy
Republican voter: My guy doinked a 17-year-old? Woodchipper!!
Democrat voter: My guy doinked an 11-year-old? Can I still get muh 'bortions? Vote him back in!
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 12:55 AM (DgGvY)
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'Evening, Bulg and DDS.
Posted by: scampydog at July 15, 2025 12:56 AM (41CYW)
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Hey Bulg, good to see you.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 15, 2025 12:58 AM (sPQoU)
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Oy vey, the Epstein stuff. Where is an Assange or a Snowden when you need them?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:00 AM (77rzZ)
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Hello, Horde! 😊💕
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at July 15, 2025 01:01 AM (SRRAx)
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Everyone needs to take a deep breathe and appreciate how far we've come in a few months and stop listening the clickbait idiots. It gets tiring hearing the same people who said Trump can't win now saying "Are we there yet?" over and over.
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Has it occurred to you that some of us are expressing our own opinions?
Everything you say that boils down to "better than anyone reasonably expected, or ever done" and I'll agree with you there.
The disconnect is that some of us are comparing the progress with what yet needs to be done (and noting with concern the signs that Trump's goals may fall far short of ours, see the deportation exemption for hotel workers and farm labor that keeps being floated, for example).
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Has it occurred to you that some of us are expressing our own opinions?
Everything you say that boils down to "better than anyone reasonably expected, or ever done" and I'll agree with you there.
The disconnect is that some of us are comparing the progress with what yet needs to be done (and noting with concern the signs that Trump's goals may fall far short of ours, see the deportation exemption for hotel workers and farm labor that keeps being floated, for example).
Posted by: Methos at July 15, 2025 01:02 AM (zLwRl)
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Hey, Joyenz. Thank you, good to see you, too.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:02 AM (77rzZ)
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There is a reason the magician’s assistant is such a beauty. Everything is to keep your eyes off what the magician is really doing! So guess who’s the magician?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 15, 2025 01:04 AM (l30Kj)
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:04 AM (77rzZ)
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>>>President Trump on Sunday said he hopes a ceasefire deal in Gaza can be finalized within this week,
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Methinks Trump is being distracted from the reasons he was elected.
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Methinks Trump is being distracted from the reasons he was elected.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 01:06 AM (Kq8pV)
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247 Is that an allusion to Pam Bondi?
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:07 AM (77rzZ)
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We live in aa time where a member of the current administration's says things like this:
"He said this guy didn't have the "b****" to be an ICE officer or a Border Patrol agent.
"This guy lives in his mother's basement," he declared. "The only thing that surprises me you don't have purple hair and a nose ring.
Get out of here, you loser! And hey, if you're such a badass, meet me offstage in 13 minutes and 50 seconds. I guarantee he sits down to pee."
Homan is a serious badass.
"He said this guy didn't have the "b****" to be an ICE officer or a Border Patrol agent.
"This guy lives in his mother's basement," he declared. "The only thing that surprises me you don't have purple hair and a nose ring.
Get out of here, you loser! And hey, if you're such a badass, meet me offstage in 13 minutes and 50 seconds. I guarantee he sits down to pee."
Homan is a serious badass.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 01:07 AM (QB+5g)
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Teresa in Fort Worth -
I’ve been praying for you, and I’ve got my prayer group to pray for you too!
I’ve been praying for you, and I’ve got my prayer group to pray for you too!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 15, 2025 01:09 AM (l30Kj)
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232 Gotta sharpen your beak a bit more, then.
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 12:47 AM (DgGvY)
I ran out of cuttlebone.
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 12:47 AM (DgGvY)
I ran out of cuttlebone.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 15, 2025 01:09 AM (VSht7)
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>>Has it occurred to you that some of us are expressing our own opinions?
Sure.
Has it occured to you I am too?
Sure.
Has it occured to you I am too?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:09 AM (viF8m)
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Zuckerberg - > "For our superintelligence effort, I'm focused on building the most elite and talent-dense team in the industry. We're also going to invest hundreds of billions of dollars into compute to build superintelligence. We have the capital from our business to do this," Zuckerberg wrote in a post.
He continued, "We're actually building several multi-GW clusters. We're calling the first one Prometheus...
Ruh Roh
He continued, "We're actually building several multi-GW clusters. We're calling the first one Prometheus...
Ruh Roh
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 01:09 AM (Kq8pV)
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Homan is a serious badass.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025
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He is my favorite. No nonsense and allergic to dumbassery - which was the inspiration word for the underutilized word(s) section in the content.
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He is my favorite. No nonsense and allergic to dumbassery - which was the inspiration word for the underutilized word(s) section in the content.
Posted by: scampydog at July 15, 2025 01:12 AM (41CYW)
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There will always be a gap between what is attainable and what is desired.
It's like a law of thermodynamics or something.
It's like a law of thermodynamics or something.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 01:13 AM (QB+5g)
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I was supposed to go to bed 10 minutes ago! I think I’ll go to bed now and see what the later comments were in the morning!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 15, 2025 01:13 AM (ZVgZ4)
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>>>Trump's goals may fall far short of ours, see the deportation exemption for hotel workers and farm labor that keeps being floated, for example).
Posted by: Methos
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Or the lack of any Star Chamber prosecutions.
Posted by: Methos
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Or the lack of any Star Chamber prosecutions.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 01:13 AM (Kq8pV)
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He continued, "We're actually building several multi-GW clusters. We're calling the first one Prometheus...
Ruh Roh
Posted by: Braenyard
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Why not call it the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
Or maybe Pandora's Box?
He continued, "We're actually building several multi-GW clusters. We're calling the first one Prometheus...
Ruh Roh
Posted by: Braenyard
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Why not call it the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
Or maybe Pandora's Box?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 15, 2025 01:14 AM (xp7+v)
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Prometheus will rule us all, someday.
The first one who stops clapping after TJM’s speech had better beware.
The first one who stops clapping after TJM’s speech had better beware.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:14 AM (77rzZ)
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Have a bit of patience.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:49 AM (viF8m)
McCoy used to convict murderers based on the five-minute-timeframe memory Briscoe dug up from some vodka-sloaked slag about one unremarkable morning 20 years previously.
If you're saying TV has been lying to me all this time, I strongly beg you to reassert your position.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:49 AM (viF8m)
McCoy used to convict murderers based on the five-minute-timeframe memory Briscoe dug up from some vodka-sloaked slag about one unremarkable morning 20 years previously.
If you're saying TV has been lying to me all this time, I strongly beg you to reassert your position.
Posted by: far cry at July 15, 2025 01:14 AM (LHaRB)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:16 AM (mT+6a)
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"He continued, "We're actually building several multi-GW clusters. We're calling the first one Prometheus...
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Oh good. He's going to let the super intelligences fight it out amongst themselves first to determine who rules them all.
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Oh good. He's going to let the super intelligences fight it out amongst themselves first to determine who rules them all.
Posted by: pawn at July 15, 2025 01:16 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:17 AM (mT+6a)
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The first one who stops clapping after TJM’s speech had better beware.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:14 AM (77rzZ)
I would stop clapping about Prometheus just to avoid it being being presented to my horrified ocular faculties ever again.
Whatever the cost.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:14 AM (77rzZ)
I would stop clapping about Prometheus just to avoid it being being presented to my horrified ocular faculties ever again.
Whatever the cost.
Posted by: far cry at July 15, 2025 01:18 AM (LHaRB)
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the White House has now released a detailed list of changes within the processed food industrial complex — just ahead of a promised September revelation by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has pledged to identify the root cause of the autism epidemic.
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List: https://tinyurl.com/34mspapf
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List: https://tinyurl.com/34mspapf
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 01:19 AM (Kq8pV)
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Evenin’, Nurse.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:20 AM (77rzZ)
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At any rate, the comment pertained to a section of the code and read 'This is just too complicated to explain.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (XeU6L)
Long-winded way of saying 'job security'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (XeU6L)
Long-winded way of saying 'job security'.
Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 01:20 AM (gKDq2)
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the White House has now released a detailed list of changes within the processed food industrial complex — just ahead of a promised September revelation by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has pledged to identify the root cause of the autism epidemic.
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List: https://tinyurl.com/34mspapf
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
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Some big names on that list. Thanks for the link.
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List: https://tinyurl.com/34mspapf
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
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Some big names on that list. Thanks for the link.
Posted by: scampydog at July 15, 2025 01:21 AM (41CYW)
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>>If you're saying TV has been lying to me all this time, I strongly beg you to reassert your position.
Imagine how much this guy suffered waiting.
By the way, the what was me singing.
https://tinyurl.com/3rudup3y
Imagine how much this guy suffered waiting.
By the way, the what was me singing.
https://tinyurl.com/3rudup3y
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:21 AM (viF8m)
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steatopygic.
Learned this year from The Moving Toyshop by Edmund Crispin. Look it up.
Posted by: pjungwir
To tie it to the Underutilized Word list in the content, steatopygic is a specific sort of zaftig.
Learned this year from The Moving Toyshop by Edmund Crispin. Look it up.
Posted by: pjungwir
To tie it to the Underutilized Word list in the content, steatopygic is a specific sort of zaftig.
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 01:21 AM (DgGvY)
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Has it occured to you I am too?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:09 AM (viF8m)
Why ask that?
I haven't accused you of letting clickbait idiots do your thinking for you.
Yes, by the way, that is my going assumption, given how well informed you generally are *and* seem not to following the NPC orders to insist that there was never any there there.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:09 AM (viF8m)
Why ask that?
I haven't accused you of letting clickbait idiots do your thinking for you.
Yes, by the way, that is my going assumption, given how well informed you generally are *and* seem not to following the NPC orders to insist that there was never any there there.
Posted by: Methos at July 15, 2025 01:23 AM (zLwRl)
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He’s a SWITCH HITTING CATCHER!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:23 AM (mT+6a)
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At any rate, the comment pertained to a section of the code and read 'This is just too complicated to explain.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer
"Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up."
Posted by: Mike Hammer
"Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up."
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at July 15, 2025 01:24 AM (DgGvY)
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He’s a SWITCH HITTING CATCHER!
Posted by: nurse ratched
Does he switch-catch to match the pitcher, too?
Posted by: nurse ratched
Does he switch-catch to match the pitcher, too?
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 01:25 AM (DgGvY)
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“Steatopygic” is not “zaftig.” It means having a specific type of abnormally fat ass.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Since scampy and TRex are here maybe we could open up the bar. I miss Miklos, is he okay?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 15, 2025 01:30 AM (0nHVk)
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Have a bit of patience.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:49 AM (viF8m)
Instant gratification.
It's very 21st Century.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 12:49 AM (viF8m)
Instant gratification.
It's very 21st Century.
Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 01:31 AM (gKDq2)
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“Steatopygic” is not “zaftig.” It means having a specific type of abnormally fat ass.
Posted by: Bulg
Which is why I said "a specific sort of," not "a synonym for."
Posted by: Bulg
Which is why I said "a specific sort of," not "a synonym for."
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 01:32 AM (DgGvY)
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He’s a SWITCH HITTING CATCHER!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:23 AM (mT+6a)
Oh my.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:23 AM (mT+6a)
Oh my.
Posted by: Barack Obama, America's favorite athlete at July 15, 2025 01:33 AM (LHaRB)
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The Underutilized Word list has "widdershins," but not its antonym, "deisal." Word nerd fail!
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 01:34 AM (DgGvY)
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281 He’s a SWITCH HITTING CATCHER!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:23 AM (mT+6a)
Oh my.
Posted by: Barack Obama, America's favorite athlete at July 15, 2025 01:33 AM (LHaRB)
Outta my way!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:23 AM (mT+6a)
Oh my.
Posted by: Barack Obama, America's favorite athlete at July 15, 2025 01:33 AM (LHaRB)
Outta my way!
Posted by: Sulu at July 15, 2025 01:37 AM (+I6Y/)
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283 281 He’s a SWITCH HITTING CATCHER!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:23 AM (mT+6a)
Oh my.
Posted by: Barack Obama, America's favorite athlete at July 15, 2025 01:33 AM (LHaRB)
Outta my way!
Posted by: Sulu
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I'm right behind you!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 01:23 AM (mT+6a)
Oh my.
Posted by: Barack Obama, America's favorite athlete at July 15, 2025 01:33 AM (LHaRB)
Outta my way!
Posted by: Sulu
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I'm right behind you!
Posted by: Mayor Pete at July 15, 2025 01:37 AM (41CYW)
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>>Why ask that?
Because you seem to feel that only your opinions matter.
We get bombarded here daily by opinions from "influencers" that turn out to be wrong.
And almost none of the people who post them ever stop for one second to look around at how incredibly different the country looks today from what it did 6 months ago or from what they predicted it would look like today after Harris won.
She got crushed. The country and for that matter the world looks complety different and it's far past time to stop whining about what hasn't happened yet and start appreciating how far we've come in 6 months.
We are curb stomping leftists every single day. If you can't see it that's not on me and I won't be sucked into the missery choir.
Because you seem to feel that only your opinions matter.
We get bombarded here daily by opinions from "influencers" that turn out to be wrong.
And almost none of the people who post them ever stop for one second to look around at how incredibly different the country looks today from what it did 6 months ago or from what they predicted it would look like today after Harris won.
She got crushed. The country and for that matter the world looks complety different and it's far past time to stop whining about what hasn't happened yet and start appreciating how far we've come in 6 months.
We are curb stomping leftists every single day. If you can't see it that's not on me and I won't be sucked into the missery choir.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 01:41 AM (viF8m)
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Warning: Don't look if you're sensitive to blood, injuries or hurt animals.
I will say this dog is a very good boy and better get steak for the rest of his life!
https://mol.im/a/14904191
I will say this dog is a very good boy and better get steak for the rest of his life!
https://mol.im/a/14904191
Posted by: Joyenz at July 15, 2025 01:41 AM (sPQoU)
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The Underutilized Word list has "widdershins," but not its antonym, "deisal." Word nerd fail!
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 01:34 AM (DgGvY)
New words, no clue. Looked them up. Interesting definitions; had no idea but I guess it reflects a human fascination with our solar system and the stars beyond. But I think I've already forgotten the words themselves because I'll probably never use them. How many people can use 'tittup' in daily usage? I know that word because it's funny-sounding but I know I'll have a hard time uisng it anywhere. I'm not much into the Lipizzaners myself.
Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2025 01:34 AM (DgGvY)
New words, no clue. Looked them up. Interesting definitions; had no idea but I guess it reflects a human fascination with our solar system and the stars beyond. But I think I've already forgotten the words themselves because I'll probably never use them. How many people can use 'tittup' in daily usage? I know that word because it's funny-sounding but I know I'll have a hard time uisng it anywhere. I'm not much into the Lipizzaners myself.
Posted by: RickZ at July 15, 2025 01:43 AM (gKDq2)
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280 “Steatopygic” and “zaftig” are not semantically akin in any way. The latter refers to Olga from Byelorussia in her dirndl. The former refers to…well, yuck.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:44 AM (77rzZ)
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G'night, Horde. DDS, you've got the bar - line 'em up. See you all tomorrow night.
Posted by: Mayor Pete at July 15, 2025 01:44 AM (41CYW)
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End of night sock fail...again... damnit.
Posted by: scampydog at July 15, 2025 01:45 AM (41CYW)
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Heh, Scampy. Good night. Sleep well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:47 AM (77rzZ)
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“Steatopygic” and “zaftig” are not semantically akin in any way. The latter refers to Olga from Byelorussia in her dirndl. The former refers to…well, yuck.
Posted by: Bulg
More for me, then. Aw, yeah.
Posted by: Bulg
More for me, then. Aw, yeah.
Posted by: Sir Mix-a-Lot at July 15, 2025 01:47 AM (DgGvY)
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>>>The active confrontation began in Trump’s first term. He arrived in Washington, D.C., expecting to be the boss of the executive branch, probably because that’s what the Constitution says in Article 2, Section 1. He quickly found out otherwise. Everything he wanted to change was declared to be off-limits. So far as he could tell, the whole of the city agreed that the job was entirely ceremonial.
That did not sit well with him. The tradition in the deep state of ignoring the president unless he annoyed them rubbed him wrong. He finally got fed up with the plots, schemes, and attempts to undermine presidential authority – which he saw as like unto a CEO, but no one else agreed – that he decided to run a test. He fired James Comey as head of the FBI.
Washington freaked out.
https://tinyurl.com/5ttzvpsm
That did not sit well with him. The tradition in the deep state of ignoring the president unless he annoyed them rubbed him wrong. He finally got fed up with the plots, schemes, and attempts to undermine presidential authority – which he saw as like unto a CEO, but no one else agreed – that he decided to run a test. He fired James Comey as head of the FBI.
Washington freaked out.
https://tinyurl.com/5ttzvpsm
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 01:48 AM (Kq8pV)
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Word list misspelled "syzygy," twice, too. Forgot the first "y" both times. Scrabble nerd fail!
Posted by: mikeski must be bored at July 15, 2025 01:50 AM (DgGvY)
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OK, G’night, All. Y’all sleep well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 01:51 AM (77rzZ)
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Night Bulg, sleep well. You as well Scampy.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 15, 2025 01:53 AM (sPQoU)
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Where there's bats, there's guano. Sorry to see the little bug-eaters lose their home.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 15, 2025 01:58 AM (mNhIh)
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Night all. I hope you have a wonderful Tuesday.
Don't forget the Axiom Splashdown
Approximately 2:31 a.m. PDT (5:31 a.m. EDT, 0931 UTC, 10:31 CEST) on Tuesday, July 15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaK-tV3LbTc
Don't forget the Axiom Splashdown
Approximately 2:31 a.m. PDT (5:31 a.m. EDT, 0931 UTC, 10:31 CEST) on Tuesday, July 15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaK-tV3LbTc
Posted by: Joyenz at July 15, 2025 02:02 AM (sPQoU)
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I used to know about yclept, but I'd forgotten it. One of my favorite moments reading Greek was coming across λεγόμενος and realizing that it meant "so-called".
Posted by: pjungwir at July 15, 2025 02:06 AM (q4wrI)
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The lady of the house took an interest in the old Singers. She has three in her sewing room. One with only a top used as a table, one non working treadle and one working treadle. She seemed genuinely interested so I got her a Bernini, a very nice machine.
Posted by: Miflin at July 15, 2025 02:10 AM (aA6YN)
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Where were you guys 15 years ago with the Epstein outrage and demands for a list and accountability?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 02:12 AM (VofaG)
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301 Where were you guys 15 years ago with the Epstein outrage and demands for a list and accountability?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 02:12 AM (VofaG)
Almost homeless due to Obunghole's roaring economy.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 02:12 AM (VofaG)
Almost homeless due to Obunghole's roaring economy.
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 02:27 AM (lPvx2)
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Good night, scampy, I'll probably just close up early if my only customer is Mayor Pete.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 15, 2025 02:28 AM (0nHVk)
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At any rate, the comment pertained to a section of the code and read 'This is just too complicated to explain.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (XeU6L)
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That IS a memorable comment. I don't want to be the guy who has to make a correction or change to that section of code.
At any rate, the comment pertained to a section of the code and read 'This is just too complicated to explain.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (XeU6L)
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That IS a memorable comment. I don't want to be the guy who has to make a correction or change to that section of code.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 15, 2025 02:29 AM (wGK1C)
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That IS a memorable comment. I don't want to be the guy who has to make a correction or change to that section of code.
Posted by: JM
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He was no longer with the company when that occured. I didn't know him really, but I was introduced to him at a cocktail party a few years later. I mentioned to him that I had found a bug in an 8080->6502 cross assembler that he had written. He never spoke to me again
Posted by: JM
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He was no longer with the company when that occured. I didn't know him really, but I was introduced to him at a cocktail party a few years later. I mentioned to him that I had found a bug in an 8080->6502 cross assembler that he had written. He never spoke to me again
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 02:35 AM (XeU6L)
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At any rate, the comment pertained to a section of the code and read 'This is just too complicated to explain.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (XeU6L)
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An IBM'er told me years ago that when MVS first came out, at some point thereafter the system would fail under certain circumstances. When they found the pertinent code, the comments there said that the programmer had just been fired and he told his boss that he thinks that the code is insufficiently tested.
This is why I never jump to have the latest version of any OS, especially true for Windows.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 12:36 AM (XeU6L)
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An IBM'er told me years ago that when MVS first came out, at some point thereafter the system would fail under certain circumstances. When they found the pertinent code, the comments there said that the programmer had just been fired and he told his boss that he thinks that the code is insufficiently tested.
This is why I never jump to have the latest version of any OS, especially true for Windows.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 02:42 AM (3447G)
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Last call, last call for alcohol!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 15, 2025 02:43 AM (0nHVk)
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This is why I never jump to have the latest version of any OS, especially true for Windows.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs
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Prudent
This is why I never jump to have the latest version of any OS, especially true for Windows.
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Prudent
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 02:44 AM (XeU6L)
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Last call, last call for alcohol!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 15, 2025 02:43 AM (0nHVk)
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Mrs. BD and I went out last night for a good steak and wine dinner with very Russian friends of ours. Both steak and wine were excellent.
We drove them back to their vacation house up here in north Israel and they invited us in. The husband right away took out some salami and bourbon from him and me to enjoy for dessert.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 15, 2025 02:43 AM (0nHVk)
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Mrs. BD and I went out last night for a good steak and wine dinner with very Russian friends of ours. Both steak and wine were excellent.
We drove them back to their vacation house up here in north Israel and they invited us in. The husband right away took out some salami and bourbon from him and me to enjoy for dessert.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 02:47 AM (3447G)
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307 Last call, last call for alcohol
Make mine a double. And of course I'll pay cash for a Traveller as well.
Make mine a double. And of course I'll pay cash for a Traveller as well.
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 15, 2025 02:49 AM (eXRYf)
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This is why I never jump to have the latest version of any OS, especially true for Windows.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs
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In devloping a product using a TI-7000 series uP, and their assembler, I found a bug in the assembler. I called TI, and eventually one of their software honcos called me back. When I eplained the problem, he replied, 'Impossible, that assembler has been out there for 4 years!'
The next day he called back, chagrined, 'Uh...you're right. It's a bug'. I pointed out to him that it was too bad that TI had turned down my job application. Best served cold...
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs
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In devloping a product using a TI-7000 series uP, and their assembler, I found a bug in the assembler. I called TI, and eventually one of their software honcos called me back. When I eplained the problem, he replied, 'Impossible, that assembler has been out there for 4 years!'
The next day he called back, chagrined, 'Uh...you're right. It's a bug'. I pointed out to him that it was too bad that TI had turned down my job application. Best served cold...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 02:51 AM (XeU6L)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 02:51 AM (XeU6L)
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honcos > honchos > nachos
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honcos > honchos > nachos
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 02:53 AM (3447G)
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honcos > honchos > nachos
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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It's 3:00 a.m. here, Mr. Dog. My brain and fingers is weary.
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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It's 3:00 a.m. here, Mr. Dog. My brain and fingers is weary.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 02:55 AM (XeU6L)
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Almost 10AM on a glorious Tuesday morning here. You have to get shuteye. I have to get some (more) work done.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 02:56 AM (3447G)
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I bid you all good morning.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:01 AM (XeU6L)
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You hear about the new fake "Superman" movie? People are saying it's meh, at best. Paid shills are all using the same phrasing in their fake praise: "a triumph, " and "it elicited tears from me."
But the worst part?
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Totally Superman, right?
You hear about the new fake "Superman" movie? People are saying it's meh, at best. Paid shills are all using the same phrasing in their fake praise: "a triumph, " and "it elicited tears from me."
But the worst part?
The worst part is this fake Superman has a new lore -- he was sent to Earth by his father Jor-El to "conquer" the planet and "spread his seed" by having "a harem" of wives, so Earth would be the new Krypton.
Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 15, 2025 03:01 AM (LKha0)
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Almost 10AM on a glorious Tuesday morning here. You have to get shuteye. I have to get some (more) work done.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
What are you, in fucking Tonga?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
What are you, in fucking Tonga?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 03:02 AM (mlg/3)
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302 301 Where were you guys 15 years ago with the Epstein outrage and demands for a list and accountability?
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 02:12 AM (VofaG)
Almost homeless due to Obunghole's roaring economy.
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 02:27 AM (lPvx2)
This, absolutely. That asshole meant we had our forever house foreclosed. He will answer for that, someday. My fabulous garden all gone to shit. Never did get the kitchen done properly.
We overcame. But it wasn't much fun, and that asshole should suffer accordingly.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 02:12 AM (VofaG)
Almost homeless due to Obunghole's roaring economy.
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 02:27 AM (lPvx2)
This, absolutely. That asshole meant we had our forever house foreclosed. He will answer for that, someday. My fabulous garden all gone to shit. Never did get the kitchen done properly.
We overcame. But it wasn't much fun, and that asshole should suffer accordingly.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 15, 2025 03:03 AM (1Gsou)
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Meanwhile, at Casa tcn, we are smoking salmon and getting it ready for canning. Of course, we keep sampling the wares. Damn, that stuff is good. You gotta love a lifestyle that lets you harvest your own protein, clean and natural.
We will bring it to TxMoMe. Be there, or, you know, don't.
We will bring it to TxMoMe. Be there, or, you know, don't.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 15, 2025 03:05 AM (1Gsou)
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Good night, Horde, sweet dreams to you all, and Biden's Dog, you have a wonderful day.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 15, 2025 03:10 AM (0nHVk)
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What are you, in fucking Tonga?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 03:02 AM (mlg/3)
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No but I love their durable toys.
Oh.
Tonga.
Not... Tonka.
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NEVERMIND!!!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 03:02 AM (mlg/3)
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No but I love their durable toys.
Oh.
Tonga.
Not... Tonka.
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NEVERMIND!!!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 03:13 AM (3447G)
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'Nite, DDS!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 03:13 AM (3447G)
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Interesting. What took Blondi so long?!
unusual_whales
@unusual_whales
10h
Attorney General Pam Bondi has fired the DOJ's personal ethics adviser, Joseph Tirrell, after the Epstein files debacle, per POLITICO
The same day, Bondi fired 20 DOJ employees who were involved in prosecuting Trump.
unusual_whales
@unusual_whales
10h
Attorney General Pam Bondi has fired the DOJ's personal ethics adviser, Joseph Tirrell, after the Epstein files debacle, per POLITICO
The same day, Bondi fired 20 DOJ employees who were involved in prosecuting Trump.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 15, 2025 03:20 AM (3447G)
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Totally Superman, right?
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 15, 2025 03:01 AM (LKha0)
Sounds like a weird porno version.
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at July 15, 2025 03:01 AM (LKha0)
Sounds like a weird porno version.
Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 03:22 AM (lPvx2)
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Finally home and I am beat. Left home yesterday at 1320 H rs
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 03:44 AM (+qU29)
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Hey Skip, glad you're safe.
per zerohedge, the Ethics advisor and the twenty had been under investigation since February. I think he and the twenty were part of the Jack Smith coterie.
per zerohedge, the Ethics advisor and the twenty had been under investigation since February. I think he and the twenty were part of the Jack Smith coterie.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 15, 2025 04:06 AM (Kq8pV)
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Hope everyone has a good morning..
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2025 04:12 AM (+qU29)
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This is my question. If a poster on here was constantly being banned for bad behavior and so had to change their handle all the time, wouldn't you think they might consider going to another site to vent their spleen-umm -discuss their views- as the non splenetic ( Is that a word?) Whig suggested- on other sites you have to register or there are other safeguards against trolls?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 04:31 AM (2GCMq)
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299 One of my favorite moments reading Greek was coming across λεγόμενος and realizing that it meant "so-called".
Posted by: pjungwir at July 15, 2025 02:06 AM (q4wrI)
Nice!
Posted by: pjungwir at July 15, 2025 02:06 AM (q4wrI)
Nice!
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 04:43 AM (aURVT)
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Pixy's up!
Posted by: m at July 15, 2025 04:48 AM (aURVT)
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"Any of the Horde have an old Singer (sewing machine)? Or a repurposed one?"
I have that very same table. My mother used to have it on her deck with plants on it so it shows some rust. It's currently in the When I Get Around To It storage to be sandblasted, repainted, and fixed up with a new tabletop.
I have that very same table. My mother used to have it on her deck with plants on it so it shows some rust. It's currently in the When I Get Around To It storage to be sandblasted, repainted, and fixed up with a new tabletop.
Posted by: Dodd at July 15, 2025 10:59 AM (0ltTz)
Legs & Eggs Cafe
Superstition Mountains, Arizona
Little bear waving. Half-assing your workout. We're all guilty. Low-T dog regrets eating so much soy. He's the Aquaman of cockatoos. Big puppy wants affection. Big cat plotting in a tree. Sea otter convention. It was like this when I came in. Stormy weather. Bottom feeder. How to clean your hooters. Keeping your kid on a short leash. Bringing up an orphaned crow. Seal wants to surf. Duckling horde. Sultry pigeons show off their gams.
Devils Tower rising 264m (867 feet) above the surrounding terrain in northeastern Wyoming, an igneous intrusion that some believe is the remains of a volcano after erosion removed the surrounding rock.
— Wonder of Science (@wonderofscience) March 1, 2025
📽: everchanginghorizon/ig pic.twitter.com/kGQ5HewpP2
Balloon fun.. 😊 pic.twitter.com/bcTNR2VBQc
— Buitengebieden (@buitengebieden) July 13, 2025
TINY steps and BIG adventures for this little baby elephant 🥹 pic.twitter.com/HwYM19IzxA
— Nature is Amazing ☘️ (@AMAZlNGNATURE) July 1, 2025
A Baby Rhino Teasing A Pride Of Lions pic.twitter.com/67oqtfnSyv
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Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 14, 2025 07:30 PM (GYt5+)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:31 PM (aOqEy)
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Eh, 1st pic is a fake.
Posted by: Douglass Mackey--Dems Vote Wednesdays at July 14, 2025 07:32 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 07:32 PM (zVOnE)
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Banat chicken pigeon, a chicken-like breed of pigeon
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they look freaky, not their fault , but almost as bad as hairless cat
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they look freaky, not their fault , but almost as bad as hairless cat
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (YaZ8R)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (+bLMA)
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ace giving us another AI pic ?
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (g47mK)
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Nvm!
Squeeeeee! A whole convention!!!
Thank you! I don’t care what the guys say about you, you’re a-okay, ace!
Squeeeeee! A whole convention!!!
Thank you! I don’t care what the guys say about you, you’re a-okay, ace!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (zVOnE)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:34 PM (aOqEy)
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8 ace giving us another AI pic ?
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (g47mK)
Or photoshopped. Depends how old it is.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (g47mK)
Or photoshopped. Depends how old it is.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 07:34 PM (ynpvh)
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10 Sea Otters are more likely to be serial killers than any other species.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:34 PM (aOqEy)
Good thing they don't drive cars.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:34 PM (aOqEy)
Good thing they don't drive cars.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (ynpvh)
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nurse, at least you get an otter. This place is a Yak free zone.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (HFcKg)
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I am willow champ today.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (ULPxl)
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8 ace giving us another AI pic ?
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (g47mK)
Or photoshopped. Depends how old it is.
yeah I realized it was fake, I subbed in a real one
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (g47mK)
Or photoshopped. Depends how old it is.
yeah I realized it was fake, I subbed in a real one
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (KRtlO)
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𝕐o̴g̴ @Yoda4ever Jul 13
When two groups of penguins pass each other, stopping briefly to exchange information, one of them gets mixed with the wrong group, a friend goes after him to bring him back.🐧 🐧 🐧 🙂 😅
https://tinyurl.com/6uaxurnn
26 seconds
When two groups of penguins pass each other, stopping briefly to exchange information, one of them gets mixed with the wrong group, a friend goes after him to bring him back.🐧 🐧 🐧 🙂 😅
https://tinyurl.com/6uaxurnn
26 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (2yoRf)
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Ben Had, how many eggs do you use in a week?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (ULPxl)
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I am willow champ today.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
That was me last week. On day that's all I was. Almost every thread. 😔
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
That was me last week. On day that's all I was. Almost every thread. 😔
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (+bLMA)
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15 8 ace giving us another AI pic ?
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (g47mK)
Or photoshopped. Depends how old it is.
yeah I realized it was fake, I subbed in a real one
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (KRtlO)
👍
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (g47mK)
Or photoshopped. Depends how old it is.
yeah I realized it was fake, I subbed in a real one
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (KRtlO)
👍
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 07:37 PM (vXpHP)
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Ballon dog is a one pup volleyball team
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 07:37 PM (uEWUd)
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So devil's tower and shiprock are different places. Good to know.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (2ap+5)
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It was still cool, though.
Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (vXpHP)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (lWAZp)
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21 The image is digitally manipulated. Artwork website here:
https://tinyurl.com/2wbwybtz
Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 07:37 PM (vXpHP)
Didn't Bill Clinton get in trouble for digital manipulation?
https://tinyurl.com/2wbwybtz
Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 07:37 PM (vXpHP)
Didn't Bill Clinton get in trouble for digital manipulation?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (ynpvh)
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I liked the baby elephant. And the dog with the balloon was cute.
Ralphy showed a lot of life today chasing Snowflake. I'm still only buying him food one month at a time, but still....
Ralphy showed a lot of life today chasing Snowflake. I'm still only buying him food one month at a time, but still....
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 11.3 % at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (jvJvP)
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Helena Handbasket, I have 2 friends that bring me eggs so I am we stocked.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (HFcKg)
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>>> 23 So devil's tower and shiprock are different places. Good to know.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (2ap+5)
Devil's Tower is in NE WY and Shiprock is somewhere or other in NM.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (2ap+5)
Devil's Tower is in NE WY and Shiprock is somewhere or other in NM.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (ULPxl)
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What ruined the Devil's Tower for me was the First Peoples tying pieces of cloth in the trees and bushes all around the base because, SACRED LAND!!!. It looked like windstorm came through a landfill.
Are there any nice places in this country that the Redman hasn't declared a SACRED PLACE?
Are there any nice places in this country that the Redman hasn't declared a SACRED PLACE?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (/U5Yz)
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Didn't Bill Clinton get in trouble for digital manipulation?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (ynpvh)
He got in trouble for lying about it.
Didn't Bill Clinton get in trouble for digital manipulation?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 07:38 PM (ynpvh)
He got in trouble for lying about it.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (aOqEy)
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I used to think New Mexico would be an interesting place to retire but the rat poop has totally put me off.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:40 PM (2ap+5)
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I've hiked through some parts of the Superstition Mountains. I wasn't looking for the Lost Dutchman's gold though. Maybe I should have been. It's a hostile place.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:41 PM (/U5Yz)
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It's been proved by science that in these hot, humid months, just perusing penguin content can lower body temperature and aggressive thoughts. Could even calm some of our testier, crankier, posters. It's in our best interests.
Posted by: Penguin Promotion Board. at July 14, 2025 07:41 PM (G5+As)
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When two groups of penguins pass each other, stopping briefly to exchange information, one of them gets mixed with the wrong group, a friend goes after him to bring him back.🐧 🐧 🐧 🙂 😅
https://tinyurl.com/6uaxurnn
26 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (2yoRf)
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So penguins are notorious gossips?
https://tinyurl.com/6uaxurnn
26 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (2yoRf)
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So penguins are notorious gossips?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 07:41 PM (IBQGV)
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>>> 28 Helena Handbasket, I have 2 friends that bring me eggs so I am we stocked.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (HFcKg)
Nice!
I have some new chickens coming online in a few months, so will have plenty to share.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (HFcKg)
Nice!
I have some new chickens coming online in a few months, so will have plenty to share.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:41 PM (ULPxl)
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Stormy weather:
This is crazy 😳
Now imagine sailing across this hundreds of years ago on a wooden boat.
I don't have to imagine it. I did it.
This is crazy 😳
Now imagine sailing across this hundreds of years ago on a wooden boat.
I don't have to imagine it. I did it.
Posted by: Brian Williams at July 14, 2025 07:42 PM (Riz8t)
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People climb Devils Tower. People are nuts.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:42 PM (lWAZp)
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Better there than Suppository Peak.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 07:42 PM (2yoRf)
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yeah I realized it was fake, I subbed in a real one
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (KRtlO)
Every year, spring and fall, right around the Equinox, a shadow forms on Superstition Mountain that uncannily resembles a cougar crouching, about to pounce:
https://tinyurl.com/mr8hxxb6
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (KRtlO)
Every year, spring and fall, right around the Equinox, a shadow forms on Superstition Mountain that uncannily resembles a cougar crouching, about to pounce:
https://tinyurl.com/mr8hxxb6
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:42 PM (vegAM)
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32 I used to think New Mexico would be an interesting place to retire but the rat poop has totally put me off.
Posted by: Oglebay
Hantavirus could ruin your plan. Best stay away.
Posted by: Oglebay
Hantavirus could ruin your plan. Best stay away.
Posted by: Dr. Quincy, M.E. at July 14, 2025 07:43 PM (G5+As)
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Helena Handbasket, I'm waiting for your sheep/lamb enterprise.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:43 PM (HFcKg)
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38 People climb Devils Tower. People are nuts.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:42 PM (lWAZp
It's got that name for a reason.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:42 PM (lWAZp
It's got that name for a reason.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:43 PM (aOqEy)
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Sleeping Indian in WY is cool. And real.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:44 PM (lWAZp)
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Husband and I walked around the base of Devil's Tower in summer heat and it took us an hour. OK we stopped often to rest, look and take pictures. It is big.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 07:45 PM (unUNN)
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Y'all going to Zzyzx whether you like it or not.
@AngelOfTraffic 35m
#Baker Big rig fire near Baker has 15 NB closed with traffic being turned SB at Zzyzx Rd. SB left lane is closed. NB delays 8 miles. SB delays 7 miles. Approx reopening guestimate (CHP)
@AngelOfTraffic 35m
#Baker Big rig fire near Baker has 15 NB closed with traffic being turned SB at Zzyzx Rd. SB left lane is closed. NB delays 8 miles. SB delays 7 miles. Approx reopening guestimate (CHP)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 07:47 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Lena D., Trigglypuff, Stacey, and The View panelists at July 14, 2025 07:47 PM (0sNs1)
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When driving away from Devil's Tower we saw prairie dogs, some came right up to the road.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 07:48 PM (unUNN)
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Sea Otters are more likely to be serial killers than any other species.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:34 PM (aOqEy)
Ooooooo!!!!
Dibs on your stuff.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:34 PM (aOqEy)
Ooooooo!!!!
Dibs on your stuff.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 07:48 PM (+i8dn)
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I loved going to Albaquirkey for horseshows.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:48 PM (HFcKg)
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Y'all going to Zzyzx whether you like it or not.
@AngelOfTraffic 35m
#Baker Big rig fire near Baker has 15 NB closed with traffic being turned SB at Zzyzx Rd. SB left lane is closed. NB delays 8 miles. SB delays 7 miles. Approx reopening guestimate (CHP)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 07:47 PM (mlg/3)
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It may not be the end of the line, but it's definitely the end of the alphabet.
@AngelOfTraffic 35m
#Baker Big rig fire near Baker has 15 NB closed with traffic being turned SB at Zzyzx Rd. SB left lane is closed. NB delays 8 miles. SB delays 7 miles. Approx reopening guestimate (CHP)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 07:47 PM (mlg/3)
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It may not be the end of the line, but it's definitely the end of the alphabet.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 07:48 PM (IBQGV)
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Approx reopening guestimate (CHP)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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It's been all downhill since Ponch and John rode off into the sunset
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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It's been all downhill since Ponch and John rode off into the sunset
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 07:48 PM (8AONa)
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Y'all going to Zzyzx whether you like it or not.
@AngelOfTraffic 35m
#Baker Big rig fire near Baker has 15 NB closed with traffic being turned SB at Zzyzx Rd. SB left lane is closed. NB delays 8 miles. SB delays 7 miles. Approx reopening guestimate (CHP)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 07:47 PM (mlg/3)
I think I have driven on that road.
@AngelOfTraffic 35m
#Baker Big rig fire near Baker has 15 NB closed with traffic being turned SB at Zzyzx Rd. SB left lane is closed. NB delays 8 miles. SB delays 7 miles. Approx reopening guestimate (CHP)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 07:47 PM (mlg/3)
I think I have driven on that road.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:49 PM (vegAM)
54
The best part of visiting Devil's Tower was having lunch at a nearby restaurant that had these giant cowboy boots, at least six feet tall, positioned facing each other and framing the Tower.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 07:50 PM (unUNN)
55
It's been all downhill since Ponch and John rode off into the sunset
Posted by: 2009Refugee
I ain't gonna lie. I had the CHiPs bike helmet. Of course we just used it for armor in our stick fights.
Posted by: 2009Refugee
I ain't gonna lie. I had the CHiPs bike helmet. Of course we just used it for armor in our stick fights.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 07:51 PM (mlg/3)
56
When two groups of penguins pass each other, stopping briefly to exchange information, one of them gets mixed with the wrong group, a friend goes after him to bring him back.🐧 🐧 🐧 🙂 😅
Not shown -- all the mephitic projectile pooping that occurred immediately after the cut.
Not shown -- all the mephitic projectile pooping that occurred immediately after the cut.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 14, 2025 07:51 PM (0sNs1)
57
It's been all downhill since Ponch and John rode off into the sunset
Posted by: 2009Refugee
Not to mention Randi Oakes and Brianne Leary.
Posted by: 2009Refugee
Not to mention Randi Oakes and Brianne Leary.
Posted by: Hubba Hubba! at July 14, 2025 07:51 PM (G5+As)
58
Superstition Mountains, Arizona
This one of the Superstition Mountains looks unbelievably fake but is real:
https://is.gd/q1UaOp
This one of the Superstition Mountains looks unbelievably fake but is real:
https://is.gd/q1UaOp
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 14, 2025 07:51 PM (YaZ8R)
59
Isn't Devil's Tower the place that inspired a mashed potato sculpture?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 07:52 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 07:52 PM (EM0uu)
61
So anyway, I thought EABOD was just an AoS thing, until the other night when I heard it in a scene from Billy Bob Thornton's "Goliath".
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 07:53 PM (AOsQT)
62
Don't take Zzyzx if you are allergic to Zzyzx!
Posted by: Big Pharma at July 14, 2025 07:53 PM (G5+As)
63
About 40% of all mammal species are rodents. Makes you think ….
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:54 PM (lWAZp)
64
I think I have driven on that road.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:49 PM (vegAM)
I checked Google Earth and it heads on down to the CalState Desert Studies Center. Scenic in a spartan sort of way.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:49 PM (vegAM)
I checked Google Earth and it heads on down to the CalState Desert Studies Center. Scenic in a spartan sort of way.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 14, 2025 07:55 PM (/HDaX)
65
AOP beat me to it!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 14, 2025 07:55 PM (YaZ8R)
66
Rodents, ruminates and reptiles.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:55 PM (HFcKg)
Posted by: weft cut-Dorothy at July 14, 2025 07:56 PM (mlg/3)
68
About 40% of all mammal species are rodents. Makes you think ….
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:54 PM
There's a reason the Maus Haus is the happiest place on Earth!
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:54 PM
There's a reason the Maus Haus is the happiest place on Earth!
Posted by: Disneyland at July 14, 2025 07:56 PM (0sNs1)
69
Isn't Devil's Tower the place that inspired a mashed potato sculpture?
Posted by: JackStraw
====
Cary Grant kept molding it out of mashed potatoes, and knew right where to go to save Eva Marie Saint from the Commies.
Posted by: JackStraw
====
Cary Grant kept molding it out of mashed potatoes, and knew right where to go to save Eva Marie Saint from the Commies.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 07:57 PM (8AONa)
70
Hundreds of years ago, some persons including myself went to a motorcycle event in South Dakota. We spent one day on a ride out to Devil's Tower. There was BBQ chicken and home made ice cream to be had. Return by way of Sundance. A fun day.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 07:57 PM (AOsQT)
71
Rodents, ruminates and reptiles.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:55 PM
Fun fact: Yaks are ruminates.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:55 PM
Fun fact: Yaks are ruminates.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 14, 2025 07:58 PM (0sNs1)
72
About 40% of all mammal species are rodents. Makes you think ….
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:54 PM
There's a reason the Maus Haus is the happiest place on Earth!
Posted by: Disneyland at July 14, 2025 07:56 PM (0sNs1)
——
Come for the rats! Stay for the gay groomer sex!
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:54 PM
There's a reason the Maus Haus is the happiest place on Earth!
Posted by: Disneyland at July 14, 2025 07:56 PM (0sNs1)
——
Come for the rats! Stay for the gay groomer sex!
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 07:58 PM (lWAZp)
73
weft-cut, well done !
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:58 PM (HFcKg)
74
Every year, spring and fall, right around the Equinox, a shadow forms on Superstition Mountain that uncannily resembles a cougar crouching, about to pounce:
https://tinyurl.com/mr8hxxb6
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:42 PM (vegAM)
I see a herd of wild ponies, running through a meadow. Or maybe a clown.
https://tinyurl.com/mr8hxxb6
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:42 PM (vegAM)
I see a herd of wild ponies, running through a meadow. Or maybe a clown.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 14, 2025 07:58 PM (kuWOS)
75
I’m in the middle of painting the photo of the castle posted on the Cafe on July 2nd.
Hope that wasn’t a fake AI photo,
Hope that wasn’t a fake AI photo,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:00 PM (VofaG)
76
Devil's Tower. Where Roy Neary bailed on his family for Alien probing.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 08:00 PM (EM0uu)
77
I see a herd of wild ponies, running through a meadow. Or maybe a clown.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
Stop looking at the foreground!
I see a herd of wild ponies, running through a meadow. Or maybe a clown.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
Stop looking at the foreground!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 14, 2025 08:00 PM (YaZ8R)
78
Possible side effects of Zryzx include itching, sneezing, depression, bloating, liver failure, thoughts of suicide and anal prolapse.
Ask your doctor if taking Zryzx is right for you.
Ask your doctor if taking Zryzx is right for you.
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 11.3 % at July 14, 2025 08:01 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 14, 2025 08:01 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 08:02 PM (lWAZp)
81
Felix Unger and Oscar Madison were ruminates. They shared an apartment.
Posted by: Odd Fellows at July 14, 2025 08:02 PM (G5+As)
82
Miss me yet?
Posted by: Carly Fiorina at July 14, 2025 08:03 PM (0sNs1)
83
I’m in the middle of painting the photo of the castle posted on the Cafe on July 2nd.
Hope that wasn’t a fake AI photo,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:00 PM
Don't forget the happy little bushes!
Hope that wasn’t a fake AI photo,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:00 PM
Don't forget the happy little bushes!
Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at July 14, 2025 08:04 PM (0sNs1)
84
Carly, NO.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:04 PM (HFcKg)
85
82 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Carly Fiorina at July 14, 2025 08:03 PM (0sNs1)
Where do I know you from?
Posted by: Carly Fiorina at July 14, 2025 08:03 PM (0sNs1)
Where do I know you from?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM (aOqEy)
86
Penguins are banned in Pomerania precisely because those people have the prescience to protect their precious population.
Posted by: Penguin Facts at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM (vFG9F)
87
P-glum!
What's happening?
What's happening?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM (W/lyH)
88
polynikes, your work continues to impress.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:06 PM (HFcKg)
89
Hola, Hall.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:07 PM (77rzZ)
90
Penguins are banned in Pomerania precisely because those people have the prescience to protect their precious population.
Posted by: Penguin Facts at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM (vFG9F)
Pure perfidy!
Posted by: Penguin Facts at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM (vFG9F)
Pure perfidy!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:07 PM (W/lyH)
91
"Isn't Devil's Tower the place that inspired a mashed potato sculpture?
Posted by: JackStraw"
In one of the greatest movies of all time.
Posted by: JackStraw"
In one of the greatest movies of all time.
Posted by: We got it all on UHF! at July 14, 2025 08:07 PM (vFG9F)
92
Cliff Clavin trivia
Devils Tower probably got it’s name because of a bad translation.
The Indians ( Lakota tribe) called it Bear Lodge because it had a lot of bears in the area. A map maker of the area came back and thought the Indians called it Bad God mountain or something like that. Thus the Name Devils Tower.,
Devils Tower probably got it’s name because of a bad translation.
The Indians ( Lakota tribe) called it Bear Lodge because it had a lot of bears in the area. A map maker of the area came back and thought the Indians called it Bad God mountain or something like that. Thus the Name Devils Tower.,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:08 PM (VofaG)
93
87 P-glum!
What's happening?
Posted by: Diogenes
....................................
Just sitting on the porch, watching the sun set on my sister's farm. Went golfing today and did as well as someone who hasn't golfed in a year. Try again tomorrow!
What's happening?
Posted by: Diogenes
....................................
Just sitting on the porch, watching the sun set on my sister's farm. Went golfing today and did as well as someone who hasn't golfed in a year. Try again tomorrow!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 08:09 PM (EM0uu)
94
Devil’s Tower = Capitol Hill
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:09 PM (77rzZ)
95
"Isn't Devil's Tower the place that inspired a mashed potato sculpture?
Posted by: JackStraw"
In one of the greatest movies of all time.
Posted by: We got it all on UHF!
You have to admit on paper the film made zero financial sense. It has such non-plot to it, it's mesmerizing.
Posted by: JackStraw"
In one of the greatest movies of all time.
Posted by: We got it all on UHF!
You have to admit on paper the film made zero financial sense. It has such non-plot to it, it's mesmerizing.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 08:09 PM (mlg/3)
96
Felix Unger and Oscar Madison were ruminates. They shared an apartment.
Posted by: Odd Fellows at July 14, 2025 08:02 PM (G5+As)
At least they thought about it
Posted by: Odd Fellows at July 14, 2025 08:02 PM (G5+As)
At least they thought about it
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 08:09 PM (D7oie)
97
92 Cliff Clavin trivia
Devils Tower probably got it’s name because of a bad translation.
The Indians ( Lakota tribe) called it Bear Lodge because it had a lot of bears in the area. A map maker of the area came back and thought the Indians called it Bad God mountain or something like that. Thus the Name Devils Tower.,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:08 PM (VofaG
Devil Bear Tower?
Devils Tower probably got it’s name because of a bad translation.
The Indians ( Lakota tribe) called it Bear Lodge because it had a lot of bears in the area. A map maker of the area came back and thought the Indians called it Bad God mountain or something like that. Thus the Name Devils Tower.,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:08 PM (VofaG
Devil Bear Tower?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 08:09 PM (aOqEy)
98
Cocaine Bear Tower.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:11 PM (77rzZ)
99
polynikes, your work continues to impress.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:06 PM (HFcKg)
Thanks . After finishing this one I’m going to do the hordes favorite and do a couple of abstracts I’ve had planned.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:06 PM (HFcKg)
Thanks . After finishing this one I’m going to do the hordes favorite and do a couple of abstracts I’ve had planned.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:11 PM (VofaG)
100
92 Cliff Clavin trivia
Devils Tower probably got it’s name because of a bad translation.
The Indians ( Lakota tribe) called it Bear Lodge because it had a lot of bears in the area. A map maker of the area came back and thought the Indians called it Bad God mountain or something like that. Thus the Name Devils Tower.,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:08 PM (VofaG)
Because Bear tried to climb and only left claw marks.
-Chief Ten Bears
Devils Tower probably got it’s name because of a bad translation.
The Indians ( Lakota tribe) called it Bear Lodge because it had a lot of bears in the area. A map maker of the area came back and thought the Indians called it Bad God mountain or something like that. Thus the Name Devils Tower.,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:08 PM (VofaG)
Because Bear tried to climb and only left claw marks.
-Chief Ten Bears
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 08:12 PM (LHPAg)
101
Penguins are banned in Pomerania precisely because those people have the prescience to protect their precious population.
Posted by: Penguin Facts at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM
===
Pure perfidy!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:07 PM
Polymorphic perversity!
Posted by: Penguin Facts at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM
===
Pure perfidy!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:07 PM
Polymorphic perversity!
Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at July 14, 2025 08:13 PM (0sNs1)
102
Just sitting on the porch, watching the sun set on my sister's farm. Went golfing today and did as well as someone who hasn't golfed in a year. Try again tomorrow!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 08:09 PM (EM0uu)
Excellent!
I got a yard crew in this week so will miss Geezer Golf tomorrow.
I have the sadz.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 08:09 PM (EM0uu)
Excellent!
I got a yard crew in this week so will miss Geezer Golf tomorrow.
I have the sadz.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:13 PM (W/lyH)
103
"Run, escape! The lagomorph is coming!"
"Xenomorph? Polymorph . . . ?"
"No! Run!"
"Shaped like a . . .?"
"Run, Now! We are doomed!"
And in the distance, up the Bunny Trail came the sinister, "hippity hoppity"
"Xenomorph? Polymorph . . . ?"
"No! Run!"
"Shaped like a . . .?"
"Run, Now! We are doomed!"
And in the distance, up the Bunny Trail came the sinister, "hippity hoppity"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 08:15 PM (D7oie)
104
Never, and I mean, never visit Devil's Tower in early August. the fooking bikers are thicker than locusts. The radius of bikers around Sturgis that time of year is well over a hundred miles.
Avoid at all costs. Wait until September.
Avoid at all costs. Wait until September.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 08:15 PM (0aYVJ)
105
Hi everyone!
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 08:17 PM (pRpzT)
106
86 Penguins are banned in Pomerania precisely because those people have the prescience to protect their precious population.
Posted by: Penguin Facts
Pomeranians are pustules on the posterior of Poland, poverty-stricken paupers, poor excuses for people.
Posted by: Penguin Facts
Pomeranians are pustules on the posterior of Poland, poverty-stricken paupers, poor excuses for people.
Posted by: Penguin Pete. at July 14, 2025 08:17 PM (G5+As)
107
“Quick, let’s bribe and infiltrate Diogenes’ lawn crew, so that his place ends up looking like crap!”
— Diogenes’ fleeced geezers
— Diogenes’ fleeced geezers
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:17 PM (77rzZ)
108
It has rained here in the afternoon for two weeks straight. I haven’t seen continuous summer thunderstorms in the Houston area for a long long time. It’s something though I remember as a kid growing up that was normal.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:18 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 08:18 PM (/U5Yz)
110
Hey, Piper! Hope all is well with you and yours.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:19 PM (77rzZ)
111
Piper, bounasera.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:19 PM (HFcKg)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 08:19 PM (aOqEy)
113
John Ellison, the new, possibly conservative-ish owner of CBS, is rumored to be in talks to buy Bari Weiss's Free Press. CBS News might be in for a change.
John Ellison, the new, possibly conservative-ish owner of CBS, is rumored to be in talks to buy Bari Weiss's Free Press. CBS News might be in for a change.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 08:20 PM (xp7+v)
114
Is that base still on the other side of Devil's Tower?
Posted by: mot at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (fIPNY)
115
Thanks . After finishing this one I’m going to do the hordes favorite and do a couple of abstracts I’ve had planned.
Posted by: polynikes
Hordes favorite? I hope it isn't a copy of fat ass on an ottoman.
Posted by: polynikes
Hordes favorite? I hope it isn't a copy of fat ass on an ottoman.
Posted by: Tuna at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (lJ0H4)
116
110 Hey, Piper! Hope all is well with you and yours.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08
Yes, thank you. They are enjoying the lake without me, but I join them Wednesday. Until then, I am in a very quiet house.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08
Yes, thank you. They are enjoying the lake without me, but I join them Wednesday. Until then, I am in a very quiet house.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (pRpzT)
117
Blonde Morticia, I just wanted to let you know that the TXMoMe is 2 1/2 days.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:22 PM (HFcKg)
118
Hi Ben Had and AL!
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 08:22 PM (pRpzT)
119
Penguins are banned in Pomerania precisely because those people have the prescience to protect their precious population.
Posted by: Penguin Facts at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM
===
Pure perfidy!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:07 PM
Polymorphic perversity!
Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at July 14, 2025 08:13 PM (0sNs1)
Eh, watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachydermous percussion pitch.
Posted by: Penguin Facts at July 14, 2025 08:05 PM
===
Pure perfidy!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:07 PM
Polymorphic perversity!
Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at July 14, 2025 08:13 PM (0sNs1)
Eh, watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachydermous percussion pitch.
Posted by: Baseball Bugs Bunny at July 14, 2025 08:24 PM (wVcYX)
120
This is Baby rhino! I need backup!
Posted by: Paco at July 14, 2025 08:25 PM (mADJX)
121
Hordes favorite? I hope it isn't a copy of fat ass on an ottoman.
Posted by: Tuna at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (lJ0H4)
Of course I snark about being their favorite. They do though make for the best comments on the Morning Snark thread.
And the ottoman guy was over taken by the dirty toilet that was the featured artwork today.
Posted by: Tuna at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (lJ0H4)
Of course I snark about being their favorite. They do though make for the best comments on the Morning Snark thread.
And the ottoman guy was over taken by the dirty toilet that was the featured artwork today.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:26 PM (VofaG)
122
“Quick, let’s bribe and infiltrate Diogenes’ lawn crew, so that his place ends up looking like crap!”
— Diogenes’ fleeced geezers
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:17 PM (77rzZ)
*looks at lawn*
SON OF A BIT...!!!
— Diogenes’ fleeced geezers
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:17 PM (77rzZ)
*looks at lawn*
SON OF A BIT...!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:26 PM (W/lyH)
123
I've discovered that the best way to keep mustard off my shirt when eating a hotdog is to take my shirt off.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:26 PM (vFG9F)
124
'Some believe' the devils tower is an intrusion? What other thing is believed??
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 08:27 PM (8avO+)
125
Sometimes the best solutions are the simplest ones.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:28 PM (vFG9F)
126
How do we know this is really fd? You just look for the mustard stains on his chest
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:28 PM (HFcKg)
127
And the ottoman guy was over taken by the dirty toilet that was the featured artwork today.
Posted by: polynikes
I think you're right. Now when we misbehave CBD can subject us to the dirty toilet.
Posted by: polynikes
I think you're right. Now when we misbehave CBD can subject us to the dirty toilet.
Posted by: Tuna at July 14, 2025 08:28 PM (lJ0H4)
128
I usually get hit by the relish before the dripping mustard. I like a lot of sweet relish on my dogs.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:28 PM (VofaG)
129
Blonde Morticia, I just wanted to let you know that the TXMoMe is 2 1/2 days.
Posted by: Ben Had
==============
What, IN 2 1/2 days, or 2 1/2 days long? I thought there was one in October?
Blonde Morticia, I just wanted to let you know that the TXMoMe is 2 1/2 days.
Posted by: Ben Had
==============
What, IN 2 1/2 days, or 2 1/2 days long? I thought there was one in October?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 08:28 PM (xp7+v)
130
Hey, Piper! Hope all is well with you and yours.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08
Yes, thank you. They are enjoying the lake without me, but I join them Wednesday. Until then, I am in a very quiet house.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (pRpzT)
Woohoo!
Party at Pipe's Place!!!
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08
Yes, thank you. They are enjoying the lake without me, but I join them Wednesday. Until then, I am in a very quiet house.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (pRpzT)
Woohoo!
Party at Pipe's Place!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 08:29 PM (W/lyH)
131
Sure, baby bear, I'll come right over to meet your mom.
Posted by: Paco at July 14, 2025 08:29 PM (mADJX)
132
Blonde Morticia, 2 1/2 days long in October.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:30 PM (HFcKg)
133
Elon Musk retweeted . xAI@xai .
Announcing Grok for Government - a suite of products that make our frontier models available to United States Government customers
We are especially excited about two new partnerships for our US Government partners
1) a new contract from the US Department of Defense
2) our products being available to purchase via the General Services Administration (GSA) schedule. This allows every federal government department, agency, or office, to purchase xAI products
We're hiring mission driven engineers who want to join the cause
Announcing Grok for Government - a suite of products that make our frontier models available to United States Government customers
We are especially excited about two new partnerships for our US Government partners
1) a new contract from the US Department of Defense
2) our products being available to purchase via the General Services Administration (GSA) schedule. This allows every federal government department, agency, or office, to purchase xAI products
We're hiring mission driven engineers who want to join the cause
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 08:30 PM (Kq8pV)
134
"How do we know this is really fd? You just look for the mustard stains on his chest
Posted by: Ben Had"
Naw. I lick them off.
Posted by: Ben Had"
Naw. I lick them off.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:30 PM (vFG9F)
135
I've tried to read Bari Weiss' book How to Fight Anti Semitism twice but couldn't get past her pre-10/7 petty and misinformed partisanship either time.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 08:31 PM (JvZF+)
136
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 08:30 PM (Kq8pV)
Musk going back on the Left’s really bad guy list.
DU will have Trump giving the contracts to Musk to keep him quiet,
Musk going back on the Left’s really bad guy list.
DU will have Trump giving the contracts to Musk to keep him quiet,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:33 PM (VofaG)
137
'Some believe' the devils tower is an intrusion? What other thing is believed??
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 08:27 PM (8avO+)
Some think it is an extrusion. Others think it is what happens when beavers are introduced to the glories of quick setting cement.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 08:27 PM (8avO+)
Some think it is an extrusion. Others think it is what happens when beavers are introduced to the glories of quick setting cement.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 08:33 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:34 PM (VofaG)
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'Some believe' the devils tower is an intrusion? What other thing is believed??
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 08:27 PM (8avO+)
Ancient aliens?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 08:27 PM (8avO+)
Ancient aliens?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 08:34 PM (vegAM)
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Naw. I lick them off.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:30 PM (vFG9F)
Have you seen that new TV program on CBS, "Ow My Balls"?
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:30 PM (vFG9F)
Have you seen that new TV program on CBS, "Ow My Balls"?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 08:35 PM (D7oie)
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I've discovered that the best way to keep mustard off my shirt when eating a hotdog is to take my shirt off.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:26 PM (vFG9F)
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Just tuck the tablecloth into your neckhole. Easy-peasy.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:26 PM (vFG9F)
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Just tuck the tablecloth into your neckhole. Easy-peasy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 08:35 PM (JvZF+)
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In the 1930s a skydiver landed on Devil’s Tower as a publicity stunt, for a radio station promotion or somesuch. Anyway his cunning plan to rapell down off the monument didn’t work, and he was stuck up there without food or water for several days and became a cause celebrè in the newspapers, like the guy stuck in Mammoth Cave. Eventually they hauled his ass down somehow.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:35 PM (wzsAY)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 08:36 PM (D7oie)
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Blonde Morticia, 2 1/2 days long in October.
Posted by: Ben Had
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I'll be sure to pack two ballgowns and a morning dress.
Blonde Morticia, 2 1/2 days long in October.
Posted by: Ben Had
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I'll be sure to pack two ballgowns and a morning dress.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 08:37 PM (xp7+v)
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:38 PM (vFG9F)
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In the 1930s a skydiver landed on Devil’s Tower as a publicity stunt, for a radio station promotion or somesuch. Anyway his cunning plan to rapell down off the monument didn’t work, and he was stuck up there without food or water for several days and became a cause celebrè in the newspapers, like the guy stuck in Mammoth Cave. Eventually they hauled his ass down somehow.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:35 PM (wzsAY)
Super Dave Osborne family?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:35 PM (wzsAY)
Super Dave Osborne family?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 08:39 PM (wVcYX)
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Blonde Morticia, the ball gowns will work because there is dancing.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:39 PM (HFcKg)
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It's a giant scratching post?
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:38 PM (vFG9F)
It is a castell done in basalt.
(Catalonians have perfected the art of standing on each other to a competitive sport, up there with street bowling, and square dancing.)
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:38 PM (vFG9F)
It is a castell done in basalt.
(Catalonians have perfected the art of standing on each other to a competitive sport, up there with street bowling, and square dancing.)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 08:39 PM (D7oie)
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I've discovered that the best way to keep mustard off my shirt when eating a hotdog is to take my shirt off.
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Some people can stay clean no matter what. Wear a white suit and walk through an Iowa cornfield and remain spotless. Not me. I’ll try to say, stir something up in a bowl, and a dollop will fly off, hit the overhead fan, and spread everything far and wide.
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Some people can stay clean no matter what. Wear a white suit and walk through an Iowa cornfield and remain spotless. Not me. I’ll try to say, stir something up in a bowl, and a dollop will fly off, hit the overhead fan, and spread everything far and wide.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (wzsAY)
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I'll be sure to pack two ballgowns and a morning dress.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I was informed they had a bit of rain one year. X may vary!
I'll be sure to pack two ballgowns and a morning dress.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I was informed they had a bit of rain one year. X may vary!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (YaZ8R)
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Yes, thank you. They are enjoying the lake without me, but I join them Wednesday. Until then, I am in a very quiet house.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (pRpzT)
Woohoo!
Party at Pipe's Place!!!
Posted by: Diogenes
*loads keg into truck*
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 08:21 PM (pRpzT)
Woohoo!
Party at Pipe's Place!!!
Posted by: Diogenes
*loads keg into truck*
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (dR6yv)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (JT+vB)
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Woohoo!
Party at Pipe's Place!!!
Posted by: Diogenes
*loads keg into truck*
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (dR6yv)
Okay fine, but no cannon balls in the pool!
Party at Pipe's Place!!!
Posted by: Diogenes
*loads keg into truck*
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (dR6yv)
Okay fine, but no cannon balls in the pool!
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 08:42 PM (p4NUW)
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AZdeplorable, mud MoMe was at my house. We upgraded after that.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:42 PM (HFcKg)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 14, 2025 08:43 PM (YaZ8R)
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'Some believe' the devils tower is an intrusion? What other thing is believed??
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 08:27 PM (8avO+)
There's a display at the start of the trail, headline says "How It Was Formed," and showed a giant bear clawing the thing.
Which is cute. I didn't read it, but I'm sure the text says something like "No, that's not it, what really happened was....."
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 08:27 PM (8avO+)
There's a display at the start of the trail, headline says "How It Was Formed," and showed a giant bear clawing the thing.
Which is cute. I didn't read it, but I'm sure the text says something like "No, that's not it, what really happened was....."
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 08:43 PM (YpWtw)
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Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (wzsAY)
I used to constantly spill , drop , etc food on my tie at work . It became a joke and my co workers gave me a gift of a bib at our Christmas party.
I used to constantly spill , drop , etc food on my tie at work . It became a joke and my co workers gave me a gift of a bib at our Christmas party.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:43 PM (VofaG)
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AZdeplorable, mud MoMe was at my house. We upgraded after that.
Posted by: Ben Had
An chose a fine place with outstanding host and hostess!
Posted by: Ben Had
An chose a fine place with outstanding host and hostess!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 14, 2025 08:44 PM (YaZ8R)
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In the 1930s a skydiver landed on Devil’s Tower as a publicity stunt, for a radio station promotion or somesuch. Anyway his cunning plan to rapell down off the monument didn’t work, and he was stuck up there without food or water for several days and became a cause celebrè in the newspapers, like the guy stuck in Mammoth Cave. Eventually they hauled his ass down somehow.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:35 PM (wzsAY)
That'd be a bit of a hard go for the guy. No helicopters to take him off. Best bet would be for a dirigible to lower a bosun's chair, and winch him aboard.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:35 PM (wzsAY)
That'd be a bit of a hard go for the guy. No helicopters to take him off. Best bet would be for a dirigible to lower a bosun's chair, and winch him aboard.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 08:45 PM (E50Nb)
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I'll be sure to pack two ballgowns and a morning dress.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 08:37 PM (xp7+v)
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Wait. You're an ette?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 08:37 PM (xp7+v)
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Wait. You're an ette?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 08:45 PM (JvZF+)
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Katie Miller—who left Trump’s White House with Elon Musk—surfaces at xAI _ Jessica Mathews, Fortune - July 3, 2025
On Wednesday evening, Elon Musk’s xAI sent a rare email to reporters—alerting them that it had received a much-anticipated permit to use gas-powered turbines at its Memphis data center...
...But there was something else unusual about the email: It was from Katie Miller, wife of Stephen Miller, President Donald Trump’s deputy chief of staff.
https://tinyurl.com/34jed2vy
On Wednesday evening, Elon Musk’s xAI sent a rare email to reporters—alerting them that it had received a much-anticipated permit to use gas-powered turbines at its Memphis data center...
...But there was something else unusual about the email: It was from Katie Miller, wife of Stephen Miller, President Donald Trump’s deputy chief of staff.
https://tinyurl.com/34jed2vy
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 08:45 PM (Kq8pV)
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You can see Devil’s Tower from the Interstate as it passes just south of it, if you look carefully. It’s quite a ways away, but it is unmistakable. I like OG landmarks, and visiting them. Chimney Rock, Pompey’s Pillar, Shiprock, etc. They were guideposts for early explorers and settlers, proof they were in the right spot, at least.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:46 PM (wzsAY)
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Wait. You're an ette?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 08:45 PM (JvZF+)
Did you think her nic was blonde mortician?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 08:45 PM (JvZF+)
Did you think her nic was blonde mortician?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:47 PM (VofaG)
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When I was walking the trail, there was a woman sitting on a rock, with three little ones near her. Up on a boulder, peeking inside a crevasse, was presumably the father of the kids.
I said hello to the woman, and she gestured at her husband, said he thought he heard something in there, and had his phone out with the flashlight on...
He came off the rock saying "this big rock is supported by a smaller rock." The big one is the one under which he had his head.
I could see the headlines the next day: Man decapitated at Devil's Tower. Or: Bear mauls man to death, after he sticks his head in the bears den.
Cute kids. They deserve a better dad.
I said hello to the woman, and she gestured at her husband, said he thought he heard something in there, and had his phone out with the flashlight on...
He came off the rock saying "this big rock is supported by a smaller rock." The big one is the one under which he had his head.
I could see the headlines the next day: Man decapitated at Devil's Tower. Or: Bear mauls man to death, after he sticks his head in the bears den.
Cute kids. They deserve a better dad.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 08:47 PM (PLjqd)
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Wait. You're an ette?
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Wait. You don't know who Morticia is?
Wait. You're an ette?
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Wait. You don't know who Morticia is?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 08:47 PM (xp7+v)
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Some people can stay clean no matter what. Wear a white suit and walk through an Iowa cornfield and remain spotless. Not me. I’ll try to say, stir something up in a bowl, and a dollop will fly off, hit the overhead fan, and spread everything far and wide.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (wzsAY)
I'll sometimes stain a shirt while packing my lunch in the morning. I need to start packing my lunch shirtless.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:40 PM (wzsAY)
I'll sometimes stain a shirt while packing my lunch in the morning. I need to start packing my lunch shirtless.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 08:49 PM (0aYVJ)
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Chimney Rock, Pompey’s Pillar, Shiprock, etc. They were guideposts for early explorers and settlers, proof they were in the right spot, at least.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:46 PM (wzsAY)
I passed both Shiprock and Chimney Rock on Saturday.
I didn't realize you can see the Crazy Horse "monument" from the main road on the way to Rushmore. I thought CH was more done that it is.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 08:46 PM (wzsAY)
I passed both Shiprock and Chimney Rock on Saturday.
I didn't realize you can see the Crazy Horse "monument" from the main road on the way to Rushmore. I thought CH was more done that it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 08:50 PM (LTnl5)
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I always wondered how the Navy chose dress whites?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:50 PM (HFcKg)
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Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 08:45 PM (E50Nb)
They could have air dropped him some food and water I suppose.
I don’t even think a bush plane could land on top of devils tower,
They could have air dropped him some food and water I suppose.
I don’t even think a bush plane could land on top of devils tower,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)
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How long before he changes the name of Rushmore to Mt. Trump.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (EWlvz)
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" I need to start packing my lunch shirtless.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame"
This is the way. Of course, going shirtless and pantless carries a different set of risks.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame"
This is the way. Of course, going shirtless and pantless carries a different set of risks.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (vFG9F)
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didn't realize you can see the Crazy Horse "monument" from the main road on the way to Rushmore. I thought CH was more done that it is.
Posted by: BurtTC
I think there is 30 years to go for CH.
Posted by: BurtTC
I think there is 30 years to go for CH.
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (dR6yv)
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This is the way. Of course, going shirtless and pantless carries a different set of risks.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (vFG9F)
Don’t fry bacon.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (vFG9F)
Don’t fry bacon.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:53 PM (VofaG)
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They could have air dropped him some food and water I suppose.
I don’t even think a bush plane could land on top of devils tower,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)
Yeah, the top of the tower is not flat. It slopes steeply to the north. one needs to see pics from all angles to understand this.
I don’t even think a bush plane could land on top of devils tower,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)
Yeah, the top of the tower is not flat. It slopes steeply to the north. one needs to see pics from all angles to understand this.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 08:53 PM (0aYVJ)
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I don’t even think a bush plane could land on top of devils tower,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)
I'm pretty sure there have been several deaths from people trying to land on top of it in various ways.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)
I'm pretty sure there have been several deaths from people trying to land on top of it in various ways.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 08:53 PM (Ws+88)
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Been seeing a lot of doctors lately. I’m amazed at the amount of knowledge they have to have about the human body.
I know that a lot of folks are inspired to believe in God by contemplating the Heavens. Point taken. But, as far as I’m concerned, the wonders of the human body (and those of the bodies of all other creatures) are just as wonderful as the Heavens.
I know that a lot of folks are inspired to believe in God by contemplating the Heavens. Point taken. But, as far as I’m concerned, the wonders of the human body (and those of the bodies of all other creatures) are just as wonderful as the Heavens.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:54 PM (77rzZ)
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Sesame Street's Elmo twitter account was "hacked" (no it wasn't) and went on a "kill all jews" tirade.
Sesame Street's Elmo twitter account was "hacked" (no it wasn't) and went on a "kill all jews" tirade.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 08:54 PM (bqCoq)
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Former NATO commander: Sending Ukraine offensive weapons ‘could move Putin to the negotiating table’
… or the nuclear button
… or the nuclear button
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:54 PM (GITLP)
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Naked in the kitchen. A tale fraught with suspense.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:55 PM (HFcKg)
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didn't realize you can see the Crazy Horse "monument" from the main road on the way to Rushmore. I thought CH was more done that it is.
Posted by: BurtTC
I think there is 30 years to go for CH.
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (dR6yv)
I'm sure I've heard the story before. I'm sure I've seen it from the road before.
Guess that shows how not-that-important it is to me.
Posted by: BurtTC
I think there is 30 years to go for CH.
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (dR6yv)
I'm sure I've heard the story before. I'm sure I've seen it from the road before.
Guess that shows how not-that-important it is to me.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 08:55 PM (PFg0D)
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didn't realize you can see the Crazy Horse "monument" from the main road on the way to Rushmore. I thought CH was more done that it is.
Posted by: BurtTC
I think there is 30 years to go for CH.
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (dR6yv)
I kind of think I won't see Crazy Horse as a finished work, but I like seeing its progress over the years. Even incomplete, it's a strikingly beautiful work of art.
Posted by: BurtTC
I think there is 30 years to go for CH.
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 08:52 PM (dR6yv)
I kind of think I won't see Crazy Horse as a finished work, but I like seeing its progress over the years. Even incomplete, it's a strikingly beautiful work of art.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 08:56 PM (0aYVJ)
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Balloon Fun: Our Daisy the hyperenergetic Malinois insists (loudly) on a ball-chase session a couple of times a day. Been thinking she might enjoy a balloon; been meaning to get her a ball to volley.
They are such amazing critters!
They are such amazing critters!
Posted by: mindful webworker - is the state pronounced Ill-i-nwah? at July 14, 2025 08:56 PM (+kBwA)
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"Naked in the kitchen. A tale fraught with suspense.
Posted by: Ben Had"
You could wear an apron.
Posted by: Ben Had"
You could wear an apron.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:56 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:57 PM (77rzZ)
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Helicopter with a drop down basket. This ain't hard.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:57 PM (HFcKg)
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Former NATO commander: Sending Ukraine offensive weapons ‘could move Putin to the negotiating table’
… or the nuclear button
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:54 PM (GITLP)
Or just keep doing what he's been doing: Killing more Ukes for no damn good reason.
No skin off the Nato butts that Pootin isn't going to budge.
… or the nuclear button
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:54 PM (GITLP)
Or just keep doing what he's been doing: Killing more Ukes for no damn good reason.
No skin off the Nato butts that Pootin isn't going to budge.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 08:59 PM (RkrlD)
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Helicopter with a drop down basket. This ain't hard.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:57 PM (HFcK
I think the event that started the discussion happened in the 30’s .
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:57 PM (HFcK
I think the event that started the discussion happened in the 30’s .
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:59 PM (VofaG)
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Helicopter with a drop down basket. This ain't hard.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:57 PM (HFcKg)
In the 20s?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:57 PM (HFcKg)
In the 20s?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 08:59 PM (zZu0s)
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I always wondered how the Navy chose dress whites?
Posted by: Ben Had
To make sure that every dot of grease and grime from the lines and deck machinery end up on your uniform when making a harbor call.
To say nothing of all the slop, beer, barf, dirt, mud, ladyboy drippings, and LBFM goo and blood that you pick up while on liberty.
Posted by: Ben Had
To make sure that every dot of grease and grime from the lines and deck machinery end up on your uniform when making a harbor call.
To say nothing of all the slop, beer, barf, dirt, mud, ladyboy drippings, and LBFM goo and blood that you pick up while on liberty.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 08:59 PM (cYBz/)
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Ah, in that case, jump dude and hope for the best.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 09:01 PM (HFcKg)
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I kind of think I won't see Crazy Horse as a finished work, but I like seeing its progress over the years. Even incomplete, it's a strikingly beautiful work of art.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 08:56 PM (0aYVJ)
Looks like an rock excavation site.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 08:56 PM (0aYVJ)
Looks like an rock excavation site.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 09:01 PM (GjxrJ)
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I love the superstitions! But there’s some creepy, lonely spots back in them.
That cactus up front, the fuzzy looking cholla, is called jumping cactus for good reason. If you get anywhere near one, one of those small cholla balls will break off, and the needles which have inverse barbs will quickly work through your clothes (even blue jeans) and into your skin. Very painful!!!
That cactus up front, the fuzzy looking cholla, is called jumping cactus for good reason. If you get anywhere near one, one of those small cholla balls will break off, and the needles which have inverse barbs will quickly work through your clothes (even blue jeans) and into your skin. Very painful!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (YQdCi)
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"Naked in the kitchen. A tale fraught with suspense.
Posted by: Ben Had"
You could wear an apron.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:56 PM
Especially if you're cooking bacon.
Posted by: Ben Had"
You could wear an apron.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:56 PM
Especially if you're cooking bacon.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (Wnv9h)
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They could have air dropped him some food and water I suppose.
I don’t even think a bush plane could land on top of devils tower,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)
I believe there was a technique to put a weight on the end of long rope, and spool it out from a circling airplane. If they got the details right, they could get the weight nearly motionless in one place.
But given that it was 1930, there were a few dirigibles in service at that time.
I don’t even think a bush plane could land on top of devils tower,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)
I believe there was a technique to put a weight on the end of long rope, and spool it out from a circling airplane. If they got the details right, they could get the weight nearly motionless in one place.
But given that it was 1930, there were a few dirigibles in service at that time.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (E50Nb)
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How long before he changes the name of Rushmore to Mt. Trump.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Oh, I don't know that he has to do that. For his own likeness, he could commission another mountain nearby that's bigger, more beautiful, and more powerful than Mr. Rushmore, which frankly includes at least one loser who didn't turn his head in time!
How long before he changes the name of Rushmore to Mt. Trump.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Oh, I don't know that he has to do that. For his own likeness, he could commission another mountain nearby that's bigger, more beautiful, and more powerful than Mr. Rushmore, which frankly includes at least one loser who didn't turn his head in time!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (xp7+v)
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"How do we know this is really fd? You just look for the mustard stains on his chest
Posted by: Ben Had"
Naw. I lick them off.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:30 PM
Call one or all of us! We love to team!
Posted by: Ben Had"
Naw. I lick them off.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 08:30 PM
Call one or all of us! We love to team!
Posted by: Lena D., Trigglypuff, Stacey, and The View panelists at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (0sNs1)
198
Luca Brazzi just got garrotes. Godfather is on . Brutal scene
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (wD1xW)
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I’ll never forget the time that I spilled coffee all over my working whites.
Thank God I was at a civilian training site at the time.
Thank God I was at a civilian training site at the time.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:03 PM (77rzZ)
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Putin was supposed to slow down or stop any major offensive moves after his talk with Trump and why Trump had no problem continuing suspending any additional weapon supplies to Ukraine.
Dumbass Putin not only started offensive action again but the biggest of the war. I hate it but It left Trump with no choice or become Putin’s bitch.
Dumbass Putin not only started offensive action again but the biggest of the war. I hate it but It left Trump with no choice or become Putin’s bitch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 09:03 PM (VofaG)
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Luca Brazzi just got garrotes. Godfather is on . Brutal scene
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (wD1xW)
I can picture his eyes about to pop out.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (wD1xW)
I can picture his eyes about to pop out.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 09:04 PM (VofaG)
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Luca Brazzi just got garrotes. Godfather is on . Brutal scene
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (wD1xW)
Was he adding garrotes to the chili?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (wD1xW)
Was he adding garrotes to the chili?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 09:04 PM (0aYVJ)
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Helicopter with a drop down basket. This ain't hard.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:57 PM (HFcK)
You say that, but....
https://tinyurl.com/4ac2rd4a
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:57 PM (HFcK)
You say that, but....
https://tinyurl.com/4ac2rd4a
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 09:05 PM (Rn6Z4)
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Hey San Franpsycho!
Have you heard from SFGoth lately? I miss him. Tell him I said hello and wonder about his amazing kitties.
Have you heard from SFGoth lately? I miss him. Tell him I said hello and wonder about his amazing kitties.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:05 PM (Bzc25)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 09:06 PM (IBQGV)
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Have you heard from SFGoth lately? I miss him. Tell him I said hello and wonder about his amazing kitties.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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San Franpsycho, ditto. Goth once suggested a few of us get together for Hunan (maybe Henan, not sure) and I'm down for it.
Have you heard from SFGoth lately? I miss him. Tell him I said hello and wonder about his amazing kitties.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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San Franpsycho, ditto. Goth once suggested a few of us get together for Hunan (maybe Henan, not sure) and I'm down for it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 09:06 PM (xp7+v)
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nurse, he is here but changed his nic to dark litigator.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 09:06 PM (HFcKg)
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Oh, I don't know that he has to do that. For his own likeness, he could commission another mountain nearby that's bigger, more beautiful, and more powerful than Mr. Rushmore, which frankly includes at least one loser who didn't turn his head in time!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (xp7+v)
That's the funny thing, all the hills around there look like they wouldn't need much work to have a face carved into it.
I just want to see the heads explode, when he commissions his likeness, and renames the thing.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 09:02 PM (xp7+v)
That's the funny thing, all the hills around there look like they wouldn't need much work to have a face carved into it.
I just want to see the heads explode, when he commissions his likeness, and renames the thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 09:08 PM (GjxrJ)
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I always wondered how the Navy chose dress whites?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:50 PM
Women seemed to love an officer in dress whites.
Plus, the shoes don't have to be spit shined!
A trick the PO2s and 3s played on new seamen in dress whites was to flick cigarette ash on their pants just as the formation was being called. Being newbs, they would try to brush it off, leaving a nasty streak, rather than blowing it off.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 08:50 PM
Women seemed to love an officer in dress whites.
Plus, the shoes don't have to be spit shined!
A trick the PO2s and 3s played on new seamen in dress whites was to flick cigarette ash on their pants just as the formation was being called. Being newbs, they would try to brush it off, leaving a nasty streak, rather than blowing it off.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 14, 2025 09:08 PM (0sNs1)
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Back in college I once spilled a bit of mustard on my outfit at a toga party.
Posted by: Senator Blutarsky at July 14, 2025 09:08 PM (wVcYX)
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Why did the spinning grandma happen?
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 09:09 PM (RBD82)
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With the title, I was hoping for more Melania pics...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 14, 2025 09:09 PM (xcxpd)
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Maybe the Crazy Horse monument has a ways to go, but the original design for Mount Rushmore included almost complete torsos. They stopped work on it in 1941, with just the heads done.
Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 09:11 PM (vXpHP)
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Putin was supposed to slow down or stop any major offensive moves after his talk with Trump and why Trump had no problem continuing suspending any additional weapon supplies to Ukraine.
Dumbass Putin not only started offensive action again but the biggest of the war. I hate it but It left Trump with no choice or become Putin’s bitch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 09:03 PM (VofaG)
Yeah, that's the narrative.
The thing is, Putin... AND EVERYONE ELSE IN HIS GOVERNMENT has said multiple times they're not going to have a cease fire. They want a negotiated end. Period.
Idiots in DC and Brussels keep saying "But maybe we could get a cease fire if we do this!"
So the Rooskies got tired of the nonsense, and went back to killing Ukes.
Doesn't make the Rooskies the good guys, but it sure doesn't make anyone in the West good guys either. This could have been stopped 3 years ago. With fewer deaths and less territory that will have to be given up.
Dumbass Putin not only started offensive action again but the biggest of the war. I hate it but It left Trump with no choice or become Putin’s bitch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 09:03 PM (VofaG)
Yeah, that's the narrative.
The thing is, Putin... AND EVERYONE ELSE IN HIS GOVERNMENT has said multiple times they're not going to have a cease fire. They want a negotiated end. Period.
Idiots in DC and Brussels keep saying "But maybe we could get a cease fire if we do this!"
So the Rooskies got tired of the nonsense, and went back to killing Ukes.
Doesn't make the Rooskies the good guys, but it sure doesn't make anyone in the West good guys either. This could have been stopped 3 years ago. With fewer deaths and less territory that will have to be given up.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 09:11 PM (TV54s)
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I just want to see the heads explode, when he commissions his likeness, and renames the thing.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Haha, the announcement alone would kick off the first round of exploding heads.
I just want to see the heads explode, when he commissions his likeness, and renames the thing.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Haha, the announcement alone would kick off the first round of exploding heads.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 09:12 PM (xp7+v)
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I used to constantly spill , drop , etc food on my tie at work . It became a joke and my co workers gave me a gift of a bib at our Christmas party.
Posted by: polynikes
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The genesis of the modern tie was the wool ascot, with the object being that the gravy would hit the (comparatively) easier to launder ascot, thereby saving the white linen shirt.
Which leads us to the curious reversal of roles in the present. The tie is practically impossible to clean when the gravy lands, but the white shirt gets tossed in the machine with nary a thought.
Posted by: polynikes
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The genesis of the modern tie was the wool ascot, with the object being that the gravy would hit the (comparatively) easier to launder ascot, thereby saving the white linen shirt.
Which leads us to the curious reversal of roles in the present. The tie is practically impossible to clean when the gravy lands, but the white shirt gets tossed in the machine with nary a thought.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 09:13 PM (n3kHr)
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Why did the spinning grandma happen?
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 09:09 PM (RBD82)
Laws of physics, I think.
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 09:09 PM (RBD82)
Laws of physics, I think.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 09:13 PM (2v2r4)
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I googled it. I guess the rescue guys didn't do something
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 09:15 PM (RBD82)
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>>Doesn't make the Rooskies the good guys, but it sure doesn't make anyone in the West good guys either. This could have been stopped 3 years ago. With fewer deaths and less territory that will have to be given up.
Didn't have to start.
Didn't have to start.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:16 PM (viF8m)
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Garrotted not garrotes.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:18 PM (wD1xW)
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Didn't have to start.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:16 PM (viF8m)
That's what I say about my second marriage, but once it DID start.....
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:16 PM (viF8m)
That's what I say about my second marriage, but once it DID start.....
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 09:18 PM (4MR3n)
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Maybe the Crazy Horse monument has a ways to go, but the original design for Mount Rushmore included almost complete torsos. They stopped work on it in 1941, with just the heads done.
Posted by: MartynWW
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If I remember correctly, the info plaques out there mention something about the mountain not being solid enough
Posted by: MartynWW
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If I remember correctly, the info plaques out there mention something about the mountain not being solid enough
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 09:20 PM (8AONa)
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Superstition Mountain looks like it needs to be prospected. Bring a geiger counter.
I've been to Devil's Tower. It's way bigger than the photos make it look. Some kind of geological illusion.
I've been to Devil's Tower. It's way bigger than the photos make it look. Some kind of geological illusion.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 14, 2025 09:23 PM (TwZXH)
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Some believe' the devils tower is an intrusion? What other thing is believed??
Posted by: Oldcat
My favorite one that I first heard last week is that it's the stump of a giant petrified tree and that there are stone roots 6 miles around and 4 miles below it
Posted by: Oldcat
My favorite one that I first heard last week is that it's the stump of a giant petrified tree and that there are stone roots 6 miles around and 4 miles below it
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 14, 2025 09:23 PM (/ephy)
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Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 09:13 PM (n3kHr)
I’m a sucker for cliff Clavin trivia. Thanks .
I’m a sucker for cliff Clavin trivia. Thanks .
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 09:23 PM (VofaG)
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There's a talus pile at the bottom of the Tower. The chunks are as big as boxcars. Watch for falling doublewides.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 14, 2025 09:24 PM (TwZXH)
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Yes, The Devil's Tower.
Posted by: The Paolo at July 14, 2025 09:25 PM (i0F8b)
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207 nurse, he is here but changed his nic to dark litigator.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 09:06 PM (HFcKg)
I thought that was who that was.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 09:06 PM (HFcKg)
I thought that was who that was.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 09:26 PM (lPvx2)
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Haha, the announcement alone would kick off the first round of exploding heads.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Right?!? Trump Is a MASTER TROLLER. I’m certain he could really play it up.
And heads would most certainly explode.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Right?!? Trump Is a MASTER TROLLER. I’m certain he could really play it up.
And heads would most certainly explode.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:27 PM (TQKnz)
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Eve Arden's feet weren't as big as I always assumed they were. I regret the error.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 14, 2025 09:30 PM (TwZXH)
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Stayed at the KoA at Devils Tower for one night. They play Close Encounters on a loop all night long, which the kids loved. However, a very large group of middle easterners came to the campground in the evening and crapped all over all the bathrooms--literally--both male and female. The next morning, a climber fell to his death, and we also discovered the license plate on our camper was stolen. Standing in line to check out, the guy in front of me took a ricochet bullet in the arm.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 14, 2025 09:30 PM (3ImbR)
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Wait I thought everyone who was being accused of being someone else, was being accused of being scogg?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 09:32 PM (zZu0s)
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Posted by: IrishEi at July 14, 2025 09:30 PM (3ImbR)
Yikes. Fortunately, our experience was far more pleasant. This was early June. And also the only night that we did not end up in a motel because of heavy rain. The Black Hills can be very interesting, weatherwise.
Yikes. Fortunately, our experience was far more pleasant. This was early June. And also the only night that we did not end up in a motel because of heavy rain. The Black Hills can be very interesting, weatherwise.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 09:35 PM (0aYVJ)
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232 That's the kind of comment Scogg would post.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 14, 2025 09:35 PM (TwZXH)
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the original design for Mount Rushmore included almost complete torsos. They stopped work on it in 1941, with just the heads done.
Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 09:11 PM (vXpHP)
There's still time to craft a fabulous boa on Adams, and a leather corset for Roosevelt, then.
Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 09:11 PM (vXpHP)
There's still time to craft a fabulous boa on Adams, and a leather corset for Roosevelt, then.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 09:35 PM (gKWVE)
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Don Martin of Mad Magazine did a really good view of the back side of Mount Rushmore.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 09:37 PM (0aYVJ)
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This weekend is going to be a hoot!
Range on Saturday!
NHRA PNW Nationals on Sunday
Mariners game Monday night!
I’ll need a vacation after all this.
Range on Saturday!
NHRA PNW Nationals on Sunday
Mariners game Monday night!
I’ll need a vacation after all this.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:38 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:39 PM (mT+6a)
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Having mashed potatoes with dinner tonight.
(piling them up and shaping them with a fork)
This means something.
(piling them up and shaping them with a fork)
This means something.
Posted by: mindful webworker - five-note UFO theme at July 14, 2025 09:40 PM (+kBwA)
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I have to rewatch Close Encounters. For years I've been saying the movie showed a flat area behind the monument, where they set up for the... eh, encounter, but that area doesn't exist!
Well... it does, sort of. It's not right up to the Tower, but it's a flat valley laid out not that far away.
Spielberg took liberties, I guess, but now I have to rewatch the movie to see how much they changed.
Well... it does, sort of. It's not right up to the Tower, but it's a flat valley laid out not that far away.
Spielberg took liberties, I guess, but now I have to rewatch the movie to see how much they changed.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 09:40 PM (iU+ep)
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234 232 That's the kind of comment Scogg would post.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 14, 2025 09:35 PM (TwZXH)
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 14, 2025 09:35 PM (TwZXH)
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 09:40 PM (zZu0s)
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232 Wait I thought everyone who was being accused of being someone else, was being accused of being scogg?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Heh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Heh.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:41 PM (mT+6a)
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Mariners / Astros. Should indeed be exciting. Astros been falling off lately, but they'll have a week to recover (injuries, I hear).
On the lighter side, the Rockies are at .229. That's the worst since 1899.
On the lighter side, the Rockies are at .229. That's the worst since 1899.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 09:41 PM (gKWVE)
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Yikes. Fortunately, our experience was far more pleasant.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 09:35 PM (0aYVJ)
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Actually, we enjoyed the stay, and for a KoA, it was pretty nice. The worst part was the bathrooms, but thankfully we had a portable john in the camper. Not the best, but better than what the campground was offering.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 09:35 PM (0aYVJ)
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Actually, we enjoyed the stay, and for a KoA, it was pretty nice. The worst part was the bathrooms, but thankfully we had a portable john in the camper. Not the best, but better than what the campground was offering.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 14, 2025 09:42 PM (3ImbR)
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My weekend will be vehicle stuff. Oil changes, new windshields, car washes.
Yay, summer.
99 degrees at 2200 feet feels different than at 5000 feet.
Yay, summer.
99 degrees at 2200 feet feels different than at 5000 feet.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 09:43 PM (0aYVJ)
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22/95 is .2316, my mistake.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 09:43 PM (gKWVE)
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Used to enjoy Gold Canyon golf course out near the Superstitions. Course was a golf ball eater, but fun.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 09:44 PM (41CYW)
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>>Spielberg took liberties, I guess, but now I have to rewatch the movie to see how much they changed.
This might come as a shock but sharks don't hunt people.
This might come as a shock but sharks don't hunt people.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:44 PM (viF8m)
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Actually, we enjoyed the stay, and for a KoA, it was pretty nice. The worst part was the bathrooms, but thankfully we had a portable john in the camper. Not the best, but better than what the campground was offering.
Posted by: IrishEi at July
I would have loved to walk up to those folks and gently said, “we don’t do that here. It’s not ok for you to shit all over everyrhing. We clean up after ourselves. We shit in toilets and then wipe out asses with paper and then wash our hands. And pick up something someone else dropped to leave the space cleaner than how we found it.”
And then shoot them.
Posted by: IrishEi at July
I would have loved to walk up to those folks and gently said, “we don’t do that here. It’s not ok for you to shit all over everyrhing. We clean up after ourselves. We shit in toilets and then wipe out asses with paper and then wash our hands. And pick up something someone else dropped to leave the space cleaner than how we found it.”
And then shoot them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:45 PM (mT+6a)
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Having mashed potatoes with dinner tonight.
(piling them up and shaping them with a fork)
This means something.
Posted by: mindful webworker - five-note UFO theme at July 14, 2025 09:40 PM (+kBwA)
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Sad Teri Garr is sad.
Had a huge crush on her as a teenager.
(piling them up and shaping them with a fork)
This means something.
Posted by: mindful webworker - five-note UFO theme at July 14, 2025 09:40 PM (+kBwA)
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Sad Teri Garr is sad.
Had a huge crush on her as a teenager.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 09:46 PM (0aYVJ)
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Neither Adams (father nor son) is on Mt. Rushmore.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 09:49 PM (NWqJf)
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Speaking of Mt Rushmore National (this is important) MEMORIAL.
You don't hate the government enough. The Natioal Park Service (tax supported)- the jerks that put up barriers around DC statuary during Obama's shutdown- does not honor ANY of the park passes there. To quote:
"Mount Rushmore National Memorial does not charge an entrance fee. HOWEVER, a parking fee is required to park in the concession-operated parking facility".
The "parking facility was built by the government on government land and the major service provided by the cocessionaire is collecting the parking fee.
You know the Park Service (first thing, kill all the) lawyers figured this one out: "If we call it a Monument, we have honor the passes. Call it a Memorial and make it free, but charge the little people parking. What, WE can't charge for parking? OK, lease the parking lot to a concession who collects the money, then we get it from them.** evil laughter all around**"
You don't hate the government enough. The Natioal Park Service (tax supported)- the jerks that put up barriers around DC statuary during Obama's shutdown- does not honor ANY of the park passes there. To quote:
"Mount Rushmore National Memorial does not charge an entrance fee. HOWEVER, a parking fee is required to park in the concession-operated parking facility".
The "parking facility was built by the government on government land and the major service provided by the cocessionaire is collecting the parking fee.
You know the Park Service (first thing, kill all the) lawyers figured this one out: "If we call it a Monument, we have honor the passes. Call it a Memorial and make it free, but charge the little people parking. What, WE can't charge for parking? OK, lease the parking lot to a concession who collects the money, then we get it from them.** evil laughter all around**"
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 09:51 PM (n3kHr)
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jefferson, washington, roosevelt, and lincoln. right.
shows how much i know. (i've not been there.)
shows how much i know. (i've not been there.)
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 09:52 PM (gKWVE)
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Teri Garr is no more.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 09:52 PM (NWqJf)
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Add the Home Run Derby to the growing list of things that were better when I was a kid.
Posted by: Wally at July 14, 2025 09:53 PM (5e+Oj)
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251 Neither Adams (father nor son) is on Mt. Rushmore.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 09:49 PM (NWqJf)
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I'd vote for Gomez.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 09:49 PM (NWqJf)
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I'd vote for Gomez.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 09:53 PM (hY4dx)
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Targets identified.
TRUMP: “I guarantee Biden knew NOTHING about the pardons signed by the autopen.”
“The autopen is maybe one of the biggest scandals that we've had in 50-100 years.”
The “pardons” are NULL AND VOID!
Buckle up, Schiff, Fauci, and Cheney.
TRUMP: “I guarantee Biden knew NOTHING about the pardons signed by the autopen.”
“The autopen is maybe one of the biggest scandals that we've had in 50-100 years.”
The “pardons” are NULL AND VOID!
Buckle up, Schiff, Fauci, and Cheney.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 09:53 PM (L/fGl)
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Did Biden at least pardon Corn Pop?
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 09:54 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 09:55 PM (41CYW)
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This might come as a shock but sharks don't hunt people.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:44 PM (viF8m)
Next you'll tell me the government brings walkie talkies when trying to stop aliens from going home.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:44 PM (viF8m)
Next you'll tell me the government brings walkie talkies when trying to stop aliens from going home.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2025 09:55 PM (LTnl5)
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And then shoot them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:45 PM (mT+6a)
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Hah! The best solution.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:45 PM (mT+6a)
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Hah! The best solution.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 14, 2025 09:55 PM (3ImbR)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 09:55 PM (L/fGl)
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I would have loved to walk up to those folks and gently said, “we don’t do that here. It’s not ok for you to shit all over everyrhing. We clean up after ourselves. We shit in toilets and then wipe out asses with paper and then wash our hands. And pick up something someone else dropped to leave the space cleaner than how we found it.”
And then shoot them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:45 PM (mT+6a)
Sad this needs be said. But it needs to be said.
And then shoot them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:45 PM (mT+6a)
Sad this needs be said. But it needs to be said.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 14, 2025 09:56 PM (dR6yv)
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I bet Corn Pop, like the Client List, doesn’t exist!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 09:56 PM (NWqJf)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 09:57 PM (L/fGl)
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>>Sad this needs be said. But it needs to be said.
Trolls are everywhere. Sad they ever need to be dealt with.
Trolls are everywhere. Sad they ever need to be dealt with.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:57 PM (viF8m)
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Neither Adams (father nor son) is on Mt. Rushmore.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 09:49 PM (NWqJf)
It seems that I'm obnoxious and disliked.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 09:49 PM (NWqJf)
It seems that I'm obnoxious and disliked.
Posted by: John Adams at July 14, 2025 10:00 PM (wVcYX)
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Tell you all a secret: if you click this link
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=415621
you will find an all-NOOD ONT.
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=415621
you will find an all-NOOD ONT.
Posted by: mindful webworker - all fully nood at July 14, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
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Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 09:13 PM (n3kHr)
I’m a sucker for cliff Clavin trivia. Thanks .
Posted by: polynikes
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My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Just holdin up my end of the conversation
I’m a sucker for cliff Clavin trivia. Thanks .
Posted by: polynikes
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My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Just holdin up my end of the conversation
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 10:06 PM (n3kHr)
JusttheNews: FBI Now Investigating the Deep State and Democrat Party's Weaponization of Government and Attempted Coup Against Trump
They don't call it a "coup." I'm saying that. It obviously was an attempted coup by bureaucrats against the duly elected president.
John Solomon says MAGA will be pleased by this.
The FBI has quietly launched an investigation into a decade of Democratic party and deep-state antics from Russia collusion to Jack Smith, opening the door for the appointment of a special prosecutor to examine whether the well-documented episodes amount to a criminal conspiracy to meddle in three U.S. elections to the benefit of Democrats and the detriment of President Donald Trump, Just the News has learned. The "grand conspiracy" case was opened several weeks ago after new FBI Director Kash Patel took over, and it could get a significant boost if Trump were to declassify two secret tranches of evidence that identify a potential ignition point to the alleged conspiracy in the summer of 2016, according to several people directly familiar with the inquiry, who spoke to Just the News on a condition of anonymity. The first piece of evidence is a classified annex to a years-old inspector general probe of Hillary Clinton's improper email server sought by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley. That annex is believed to show that credible information about possible wrongdoing was intentionally ignored by the FBI. The second tranche of evidence was identified by former Russiagate Special Counsel John Durham in his final report. The evidence was dubbed in the report as the "Clinton plan intelligence," and it was also placed in a classified annex kept from the American public and even many members of Congress.
"I think next week, over the next 10 days... the base, who's been wondering, 'Where is all that accountability?'--they're gonna get some big surprises," Solomon said. He claimed the case reaches back to the summer of 2016, before Crossfire Hurricane was launched, and extends all the way through to 2024, encompassing "a large series of events" aimed at stopping Trump from winning the presidency. Solomon said the massive case has been built largely out of the public eye, obscured by media theatrics and political infighting. "It's been masked by a lot of this infighting and drama and soap opera stuff," he said. "But the truth of the matter is, MAGA base Americans are gonna be happy when they see where this is all heading." ... Bannon pressed Solomon to clarify whether this was, in fact, a formal investigation by federal authorities. Solomon didn't hesitate. "There is a conspiracy case that was opened that looks at this window as a very large window," he confirmed. "I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a special prosecutor named by Pam Bondi in the next week or two."
This might have been leaked by Patel or Bongino (or people close to them) to let MAGA know they're still doing the jobs they were appointed to do, and reduce any anger about the Epstein matter. Everyone's reporting they're both very angry about Bondi hanging them out to dry over that. But that wouldn't make the leak false, it would just explain why they sought fit to give the leak to a reporter. I could see people sniffing "promises, promises," though.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:31 PM (XeTAE)
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RICO RICO RICO
Posted by: Lizard Face Carville at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (dR6yv)
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Damn. We were in the black, then went into the red.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (p16cu)
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Off sock
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (dR6yv)
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I am watching The Incredibles.
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (lqnbT)
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I am going to name my new bloodhound Jim Jordan. She is actually a Pomeranian.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (MMp6W)
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Trial balloons to assuage the Epstein crowd?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:35 PM (JL0Wh)
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If they are willing, and did, attempt a coup, and possibly succeeded, then would they have hesitation in damaging evidence.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 06:35 PM (/lPRQ)
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>>> Stephen Furst!
(RIP)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:31 PM (XeTAE)
I liked B5 Vir, a good character. Lots of good characters on that show gnawing away at the scenery. No one was really forgettable.
(RIP)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:31 PM (XeTAE)
I liked B5 Vir, a good character. Lots of good characters on that show gnawing away at the scenery. No one was really forgettable.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 14, 2025 06:35 PM (cduTK)
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On the one hand I appreciate the *why* behind Trump hiring a bunch of former media people to head his departments, he needs to get a better handle on keeping these people in their lanes doing their jobs and not putting on pancake makeup to run their cock-holsters on TV every freaking day.
Posted by: ballistic at July 14, 2025 06:36 PM (01DnR)
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I'll wait to see what we see when we see it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:36 PM (TdYBy)
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I am going to name my new bloodhound Jim Jordan. She is actually a Pomeranian.
Posted by: Oglebay
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Shave the bottom of her legs for the authentic rolled up sleeves look.
Posted by: Oglebay
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Shave the bottom of her legs for the authentic rolled up sleeves look.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 06:36 PM (p16cu)
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>>>But the truth of the matter is, MAGA base Americans are gonna be happy when they see where this is all heading.
Oh, okay. Thanks for that.
Oh, okay. Thanks for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:36 PM (uCjyK)
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Interesting. So, they're saying ongoing criminal activity. No statute of limitations in play then.
The people who overthrew our government need to be burned to the ground.
Let's hope this isn't vaporware.
The people who overthrew our government need to be burned to the ground.
Let's hope this isn't vaporware.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 06:37 PM (tT6L1)
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Yeah but what about you know who?
Posted by: guy who only cares about Epstein at July 14, 2025 06:37 PM (vFG9F)
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I said it yesterday, John Solomon is the Jim Cramer of DC.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:37 PM (/U5Yz)
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I want Hillary Clinton in an orange jumper, frogwalked for all of the world to see.
But what I want and what I get are two different types of cheese.
But what I want and what I get are two different types of cheese.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:37 PM (JL0Wh)
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They can investigate all they want to, nothing is ever going to happen. The statute of limitations has long since past. Total kabuki theater.
IMO this is a red herring/shiny thing meant to distract from the epstein disaster.
IMO this is a red herring/shiny thing meant to distract from the epstein disaster.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 06:38 PM (e5NfL)
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>> This might have been leaked by Patel or Bongino (or people close to them) to let MAGA know they're still doing the jobs they were appointed to do, and reduce any anger about the Epstein matter.
It feels very much like that, doesn't it?
Kind of reminds one of the budget and legislation fights during the Obama years, no? We were kept being told "this isn't the hill to die on. BUT JUST YOU WAIT! Next month, we're not going raise the debt ceiling." etc. etc.
It feels very much like that, doesn't it?
Kind of reminds one of the budget and legislation fights during the Obama years, no? We were kept being told "this isn't the hill to die on. BUT JUST YOU WAIT! Next month, we're not going raise the debt ceiling." etc. etc.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:38 PM (uCjyK)
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3 years from now a 1200 page report will be released. It will say some mistakes were made and better training is needed.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 06:39 PM (ImXfC)
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I could see people sniffing "promises, promises," though.
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Yup. It's just rumor and hype for now.
I'll be interested when there are indictments and celebratory when someone whose name we (generally) have heard of is off to prison, or better yet, the gallows.
Assuming the word "treason" is being taken seriously.
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Yup. It's just rumor and hype for now.
I'll be interested when there are indictments and celebratory when someone whose name we (generally) have heard of is off to prison, or better yet, the gallows.
Assuming the word "treason" is being taken seriously.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 06:39 PM (zLwRl)
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Yeah I really want to see this happen and I suspect that angry Trump seeking vengeance will see this through. There are few people who deserve to be taken down quite like the cabal of evil that tried to take out Trump with the intelligence services.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:39 PM (dfIr7)
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Where is Pomerania?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 06:39 PM (63Dwl)
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FBI Now Investigating the Deep State and Democrat Party's Weaponization of Government and Attempted Coup Against Trump
I'm sure they will find that they themselves were involved in no wrongdoing.
I'm sure they will find that they themselves were involved in no wrongdoing.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 14, 2025 06:39 PM (a+4eV)
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A little Duce coup
You don't know what I got (You don't know what I got)
A little Duce coup
You don't know what I got
You don't know what I got (You don't know what I got)
A little Duce coup
You don't know what I got
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:39 PM (2yoRf)
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Yeah, deeds, not words.
It's not just Megaforce that should live by that motto.
It's not just Megaforce that should live by that motto.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (xcxpd)
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20 3 years from now a 1200 page report will be released. It will say some mistakes were made and better training is needed.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 06:39 PM (ImXfC)
New procedures will be developed, though. So we do have that going for us.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 06:39 PM (ImXfC)
New procedures will be developed, though. So we do have that going for us.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (uCjyK)
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Patel and Solomon know each other. Both were hired at the end of Trump's first term to try and get the Russia documents declassified and released.
He's not a bullshitter.
He's not a bullshitter.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (viF8m)
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Hallelujah!
I hope Hilary Clinton is soaking her diapers hourly as she reads this, sloshing on Chardonnay.
Bill is probably planning his state funeral to avoid and wag the dog a bit. Hilary is sad she won't get a state funeral.
GWB is painting dogs.
Barky is popping poppers and finding a new chef.
Biden is eating pudding.
I hope Hilary Clinton is soaking her diapers hourly as she reads this, sloshing on Chardonnay.
Bill is probably planning his state funeral to avoid and wag the dog a bit. Hilary is sad she won't get a state funeral.
GWB is painting dogs.
Barky is popping poppers and finding a new chef.
Biden is eating pudding.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (2yoRf)
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Stephen Furst!
(RIP)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars
"This is gonna be great!!"
- Zombie Kent "Flounder" Dorfman
(RIP)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars
"This is gonna be great!!"
- Zombie Kent "Flounder" Dorfman
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (cYBz/)
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Lost in all this epstein bullshit, which I don't give a shit about, is ukraine getting more Free Weapons.
THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Lost in all this epstein bullshit, which I don't give a shit about, is ukraine getting more Free Weapons.
THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (Wy7yg)
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It's okay. I'll wait here. Let me know how it goes.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (vd6bO)
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Speaking of Top Men.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (/U5Yz)
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Another change:
The FCC is investigating a CO PBS affiliate for running a commercial against the OBBB, telling viewers to call their representatives.
But PBS is nonpartisan, you all!!!
The FCC is investigating a CO PBS affiliate for running a commercial against the OBBB, telling viewers to call their representatives.
But PBS is nonpartisan, you all!!!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (JThEY)
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The Pomeranian is a breed of dog of the Spitz type that is named for the Pomerania region in north-west Poland and north-east Germany in Central Europe.
You know, the spitz type doesn't bother me as much as people seem to think it should.
You know, the spitz type doesn't bother me as much as people seem to think it should.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (MMp6W)
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Where is Pomerania?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Pomerania is a historical region on the southern shore of the Baltic Sea in Central Europe, split between Poland and Germany. The central and eastern part belongs to the West Pomeranian, Pomeranian and Kuyavian-Pomeranian voivodeships of Poland, while the western part belongs to the German states of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania and Brandenburg. Pomerania's historical border in the west is the Mecklenburg-Western Pomeranian border Urstromtal, which now constitutes the border between the Mecklenburgian and Pomeranian part of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, while it is bounded by the Vistula River in the east.
Are you happy now?
Where is Pomerania?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Pomerania is a historical region on the southern shore of the Baltic Sea in Central Europe, split between Poland and Germany. The central and eastern part belongs to the West Pomeranian, Pomeranian and Kuyavian-Pomeranian voivodeships of Poland, while the western part belongs to the German states of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania and Brandenburg. Pomerania's historical border in the west is the Mecklenburg-Western Pomeranian border Urstromtal, which now constitutes the border between the Mecklenburgian and Pomeranian part of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, while it is bounded by the Vistula River in the east.
Are you happy now?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (XeTAE)
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And the Supreme Court says Trump can fire 1,400 from the Dept of Miseducation.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (9xzST)
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Pomerania was somewhere in eastern Germany / west Prussia now part of Poland, I think. "Real" Germans used to look down on them as not really German.
Bismarck famously uttered that the Balkans were not worth a single Pomeranian grenadier.
Bismarck famously uttered that the Balkans were not worth a single Pomeranian grenadier.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (gKWVE)
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Lost in all this epstein bullshit, which I don't give a shit about, is ukraine getting more Free Weapons.
THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (Wy7yg)
It is. And it is a symptom of the same issue.
At least we allegedly shook down the Europeans for some cash for the military industrial complex that wasn't funded by US taxpayers though. That's a silver lining, I suppose.
Lost in all this epstein bullshit, which I don't give a shit about, is ukraine getting more Free Weapons.
THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (Wy7yg)
It is. And it is a symptom of the same issue.
At least we allegedly shook down the Europeans for some cash for the military industrial complex that wasn't funded by US taxpayers though. That's a silver lining, I suppose.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (uCjyK)
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Pomeranians are toy dogs.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (g47mK)
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"The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
Posted by: Maj. Healey"
Did the case and cleaning kit fall out too?
Posted by: Maj. Healey"
Did the case and cleaning kit fall out too?
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (vFG9F)
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>>Lost in all this epstein bullshit, which I don't give a shit about, is ukraine getting more Free Weapons.
>>THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Not from us. The EU is buying the weapons from us for Ukraine.
>>THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Not from us. The EU is buying the weapons from us for Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (viF8m)
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Where is Pomerania?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
On the Baltic Sea, between Germany and Poland, allegedly.
Used to be know for their grenadiers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
On the Baltic Sea, between Germany and Poland, allegedly.
Used to be know for their grenadiers.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (a+4eV)
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The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (/U5Yz)
Pfffftttt....
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (/U5Yz)
Pfffftttt....
Posted by: Capitol Police at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (dR6yv)
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I will not say The Words.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (AOsQT)
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I think one aspect of the left that we don't consider sufficiently are the drugs. Many, many drugs. These people are stoned on a whole 90s pill bowl full of junk. It makes them paranoid and crazy and stupid. It makes them believe crap that is clearly not true, and be ragingly certain of it.
Nobody thinks Trump is going to put them into a concentration camp unless they are coked out of their minds.
Nobody thinks Trump is going to put them into a concentration camp unless they are coked out of their minds.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:43 PM (dfIr7)
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btw, Reminder:
During PDT's first term, the FBI Shits LIED and said peter strozk's & lisa page's text messages were "lost" and/or "deleted."
And then, like magic, "someone" at the FBI "found" the "deleted" texts.
So Who-The-Fuck-Knows what's going on.
btw, Reminder:
During PDT's first term, the FBI Shits LIED and said peter strozk's & lisa page's text messages were "lost" and/or "deleted."
And then, like magic, "someone" at the FBI "found" the "deleted" texts.
So Who-The-Fuck-Knows what's going on.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:43 PM (Wy7yg)
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THAT is worth being pissed off about.
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I was going to have mentioned that about another possible MAGA internal struggle but I didn't want to be accused of shitposting!
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I was going to have mentioned that about another possible MAGA internal struggle but I didn't want to be accused of shitposting!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:43 PM (2yoRf)
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Not from us. The EU is buying the weapons from us for Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (viF8m
I'm sure Russia will understand the distinction.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (viF8m
I'm sure Russia will understand the distinction.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:43 PM (JL0Wh)
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... and, out for the night (at least until I awaken in the wee hours of the AM and dabble in the Tech thread).
... and, out for the night (at least until I awaken in the wee hours of the AM and dabble in the Tech thread).
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:43 PM (XeTAE)
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And the Supreme Court says Trump can fire 1,400 from the Dept of Miseducation.
According to Grok - "As of June 2025, the U.S. Department of Education has approximately 2,183 employees, following a reduction from about 4,209 employees in September 2024 due to layoffs and voluntary resignations/retirements."
And now, cut by 50% again.
This is exactly what I voted for.
According to Grok - "As of June 2025, the U.S. Department of Education has approximately 2,183 employees, following a reduction from about 4,209 employees in September 2024 due to layoffs and voluntary resignations/retirements."
And now, cut by 50% again.
This is exactly what I voted for.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (cYBz/)
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"The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
Posted by: Maj. Healey"
Did the case and cleaning kit fall out too?
Posted by: fd at July
and the instruction manual, and a grinder plus, a $100 off coupon from Brownell's.
Posted by: Maj. Healey"
Did the case and cleaning kit fall out too?
Posted by: fd at July
and the instruction manual, and a grinder plus, a $100 off coupon from Brownell's.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (/U5Yz)
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I'm sure Russia will understand the distinction.
==
they understand China selling weapons to both sides, so , I guess we are good...
==
they understand China selling weapons to both sides, so , I guess we are good...
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (g47mK)
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Lost in all this epstein bullshit, which I don't give a shit about, is ukraine getting more Free Weapons.
THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM
They aren't *free*. The EU is paying us for weapons to ship to ukraine because they don't have any left to send.
THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM
They aren't *free*. The EU is paying us for weapons to ship to ukraine because they don't have any left to send.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (e5NfL)
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Pomeranians are toy dogs.
Posted by: runner
In one of the Blade the vampires engineered a Pomeranian vampire dog.
Posted by: runner
In one of the Blade the vampires engineered a Pomeranian vampire dog.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (/lPRQ)
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50 Not from us. The EU is buying the weapons from us for Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (viF8m
I'm sure Russia will understand the distinction.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:43 PM (JL0Wh)
I'm not sure I understand it. So long as we involve a middleman, with everyone knowing where they are ultimately going, it's not us doing it?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:42 PM (viF8m
I'm sure Russia will understand the distinction.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:43 PM (JL0Wh)
I'm not sure I understand it. So long as we involve a middleman, with everyone knowing where they are ultimately going, it's not us doing it?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (TdYBy)
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Trump, *if* he can stomp the MIC into obedience, is not going to be able to do it in #twoweeks, and those asshoes also get a vote on how events proceed.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:45 PM (ULPxl)
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US going back to FDR's Arsenal of Democracy?
What can we sell to Russia? How about LTC Bearclaw Vindaloomon?
What can we sell to Russia? How about LTC Bearclaw Vindaloomon?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 06:45 PM (9xzST)
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I'm not sure I understand it. So long as we involve a middleman, with everyone knowing where they are ultimately going, it's not us doing it?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (TdYBy
Welcome to the Cold War, my friend.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (TdYBy
Welcome to the Cold War, my friend.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:45 PM (JL0Wh)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 14, 2025 06:45 PM (od0dV)
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Nothing better than to see a government agency's staff cut in half and then cut in half again. Quartered, as it were.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 06:45 PM (MMp6W)
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Where is Pomerania?
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Sweden/Prussia/Germany.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (2yoRf)
Southwest of Peruvia.
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Sweden/Prussia/Germany.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (2yoRf)
Southwest of Peruvia.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 14, 2025 06:45 PM (0aYVJ)
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This arrangement with EU paying for weapons, and then ..do what you want with them EU, it's your responsibility, though... is just fine.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (g47mK)
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I'll say it again, the only thing that will be more shocking than how much our government was working AGAINST us will be how much different it will be when it's working FOR us.
And we're still in the "finding out how much they've been working against us" stage.
Just 6 months in, y'all.
We're just getting started.
And we're still in the "finding out how much they've been working against us" stage.
Just 6 months in, y'all.
We're just getting started.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (JThEY)
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Good news. Takes time to get all the prosecutorial ducks in a row.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (rU4Z2)
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What was that Hillary Clinton quote when she realized she had lost the presidential election?
"We're all going to burn."
_______________________________
I've been patient. But, I have my limits.
"We're all going to burn."
_______________________________
I've been patient. But, I have my limits.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (dIske)
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>>I'm sure Russia will understand the distinction.
I'm sure they won't. But we won't be paying for it and that's ok by me.
I'm sure they won't. But we won't be paying for it and that's ok by me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (viF8m)
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IMO this is a red herring/shiny thing meant to distract from the epstein disaster.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 06:38 PM (e5NfL)
On a national level, or just this blog?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 06:38 PM (e5NfL)
On a national level, or just this blog?
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (0DnHq)
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Oh Boy! If Patel and Bondi can lower the boom on the Deep State democrat scum they will go down as Heroes Of The Old Republic. If not, they will go down as major league Blowers Of Smoke Up Asses And Other Holes.
"We Shall See" said the Blind Melon.
"We Shall See" said the Blind Melon.
Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (R/m4+)
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"Southwest of Peruvia.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame"
Main exports are pom poms and Pomade.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame"
Main exports are pom poms and Pomade.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (vFG9F)
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I'm not sure I understand it. So long as we involve a middleman, with everyone knowing where they are ultimately going, it's not us doing it?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
At that point, it's just business, not a proxy war.
Which could expand into a real war if Russia decides to attack the non-Ukrainian delivery vehicles.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
At that point, it's just business, not a proxy war.
Which could expand into a real war if Russia decides to attack the non-Ukrainian delivery vehicles.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 14, 2025 06:47 PM (a+4eV)
73
In one of the Blade the vampires engineered a Pomeranian vampire dog.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (/lPRQ)
terrifying!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (/lPRQ)
terrifying!
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:47 PM (g47mK)
74
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (kOKqg)
******
I believe somepeople here refer to you as Scogg.
I remember a ScoggDog from the comments in Trumps first administration. As I remember it, you had a pretty pessimistic outlook as to how the investigations by John Durham were going to end up.
I...did not like your outlook or your tone.
But...I think you turned out to be a lot more correct in how it all turned out than I thought it would turn out (or was just wishing/hoping it would turn out).
So...in recognition of your previous accuracy in political prognostications, I will remain open to your words and thoughts.
Caustic though they may be.
Be well, ScoggDog, if indeed that was your name.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (kOKqg)
******
I believe somepeople here refer to you as Scogg.
I remember a ScoggDog from the comments in Trumps first administration. As I remember it, you had a pretty pessimistic outlook as to how the investigations by John Durham were going to end up.
I...did not like your outlook or your tone.
But...I think you turned out to be a lot more correct in how it all turned out than I thought it would turn out (or was just wishing/hoping it would turn out).
So...in recognition of your previous accuracy in political prognostications, I will remain open to your words and thoughts.
Caustic though they may be.
Be well, ScoggDog, if indeed that was your name.
Posted by: EFG at July 14, 2025 06:47 PM (6Y7N9)
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>>> 32
Lost in all this epstein bullshit, which I don't give a shit about, is ukraine getting more Free Weapons.
THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (Wy7yg)
I thought that big meanie OrangeManBad made the eurofags pay for the new stuff.
Lost in all this epstein bullshit, which I don't give a shit about, is ukraine getting more Free Weapons.
THAT is worth being pissed off about.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:40 PM (Wy7yg)
I thought that big meanie OrangeManBad made the eurofags pay for the new stuff.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:47 PM (ULPxl)
76
Training deficiencies. It was training deficiencies people.
Posted by: DOJ Blondie at July 14, 2025 06:47 PM (/U5Yz)
77
Did we cover this yet? Because it's the most pathetic thing I've read all year.
@visegrad24
All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France.
@visegrad24
All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 06:48 PM (mlg/3)
78
Is the US sending the weapons to the EU who will then send them to Ukraine?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 06:48 PM (63Dwl)
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77 Did we cover this yet? Because it's the most pathetic thing I've read all year.
@visegrad24
All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 06:48 PM (mlg/3)
Gavin Newsom is missing a great opportunity here.
@visegrad24
All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 06:48 PM (mlg/3)
Gavin Newsom is missing a great opportunity here.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:48 PM (JL0Wh)
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At that point, it's just business, not a proxy war.
Which could expand into a real war if Russia decides to attack the non-Ukrainian delivery vehicles.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 14, 2025 06:47 PM (a+4eV)
It's clearly not "just business."
We're not offering to sell weapons to Russia through third parties.
This isn't plausible deniability to Russia, this is Trump trying to argue we're not really selling weapons to Ukraine, we're selling them to Germany who is giving them to Ukraine.
I guess that's somewhat of an improvement, but I would really prefer we stop being involved in not only the Ukrainian war, but every other fucking war around the planet. We can survive as an economy without selling weapons to 3/4 of the countries on the planet, much of which we end up paying for.
Which could expand into a real war if Russia decides to attack the non-Ukrainian delivery vehicles.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 14, 2025 06:47 PM (a+4eV)
It's clearly not "just business."
We're not offering to sell weapons to Russia through third parties.
This isn't plausible deniability to Russia, this is Trump trying to argue we're not really selling weapons to Ukraine, we're selling them to Germany who is giving them to Ukraine.
I guess that's somewhat of an improvement, but I would really prefer we stop being involved in not only the Ukrainian war, but every other fucking war around the planet. We can survive as an economy without selling weapons to 3/4 of the countries on the planet, much of which we end up paying for.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:49 PM (uCjyK)
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I don't get the point of continuing to dredge up info on what was done in the past if no one is punished.
It's just a continuing display of the complete lack of accountability that passes for governmental process these days.
It really a waste of time.
I'd rather these people spend their time slimming down the regulatory beast and cleaning up all the obvious BS that has accumulated that affects the ACTUAL PEOPLE.
Like TSA and airport screenings and the like. Stuff like that.
The list is long.
Get to work.
It's just a continuing display of the complete lack of accountability that passes for governmental process these days.
It really a waste of time.
I'd rather these people spend their time slimming down the regulatory beast and cleaning up all the obvious BS that has accumulated that affects the ACTUAL PEOPLE.
Like TSA and airport screenings and the like. Stuff like that.
The list is long.
Get to work.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 06:49 PM (QB+5g)
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I guess that's somewhat of an improvement, but I would really prefer we stop being involved in not only the Ukrainian war, but every other fucking war around the planet. We can survive as an economy without selling weapons to 3/4 of the countries on the planet, much of which we end up paying for.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
I don't disagree in the least.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
I don't disagree in the least.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 14, 2025 06:49 PM (a+4eV)
83
Bismarck famously uttered that the Balkans were not worth a single Pomeranian grenadier.
Posted by: gKWVE
______
Bismark and his non-pomeranians:
https://tinyurl.com/2zuwrwfm
Posted by: gKWVE
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Bismark and his non-pomeranians:
https://tinyurl.com/2zuwrwfm
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 06:49 PM (p16cu)
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The EU is buying weapons from us to give to Ukraine. The EU , i believe, in 2023 bought over $9B in liquid natural gas from Russia. They're still buying it as it's not subject to any sanctions. There are also a lot waivers in the sanctions, plus the so called black fleet moves goods from Russia out of normal channels.
Funding both sides on a war does have advantages.
Funding both sides on a war does have advantages.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 06:49 PM (Ry3Y5)
85
In one of the Blade the vampires engineered a Pomeranian vampire dog.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Still, not as epic as Marilyn Chambers in Rabid where she has a phallic, vampiric stinger in her armpit.
How cool was that?!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Still, not as epic as Marilyn Chambers in Rabid where she has a phallic, vampiric stinger in her armpit.
How cool was that?!
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 06:49 PM (cYBz/)
86
We're all going to burn."
_______________________________
I've been patient. But, I have my limits.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (dIske)
She said, "hang."
I am good with either.
_______________________________
I've been patient. But, I have my limits.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 06:46 PM (dIske)
She said, "hang."
I am good with either.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:49 PM (6PCLE)
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Sure, zey can apply, mon ami...
Posted by: the Frogs, famed for their honesty and integrity at July 14, 2025 06:49 PM (gKWVE)
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>>I thought that big meanie OrangeManBad made the eurofags pay for the new stuff.
Even said it again today with the head of NATO sitting right next to him in the Oval Office.
Even said it again today with the head of NATO sitting right next to him in the Oval Office.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (viF8m)
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Speaking of Top Men.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (/U5Yz)
You mean "sold by the cop to a gang-banger for an ounce of blow and a hooker", right?
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (/U5Yz)
You mean "sold by the cop to a gang-banger for an ounce of blow and a hooker", right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (rU4Z2)
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I'm not sure I understand it. So long as we involve a middleman, with everyone knowing where they are ultimately going, it's not us doing it?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
And right there are the lying lies behind the U.S. having eschewed developing bioweapons ourselves, by treaty, and yet funding research to be carried out in other countries (e.g., Wuhan and Ukraine, among others) to develop bioweapons.
Squeaky clean hands had we (the U.S.) in the whole Coof thing, boys and girls! Squeaky clean hands!
I'm not sure I understand it. So long as we involve a middleman, with everyone knowing where they are ultimately going, it's not us doing it?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
And right there are the lying lies behind the U.S. having eschewed developing bioweapons ourselves, by treaty, and yet funding research to be carried out in other countries (e.g., Wuhan and Ukraine, among others) to develop bioweapons.
Squeaky clean hands had we (the U.S.) in the whole Coof thing, boys and girls! Squeaky clean hands!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (XeTAE)
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I could see people sniffing "promises, promises," though.
No Party Member gets indicted in Babylon DC.
Now if the DOJ made a simple statement that they are doxxing the perps and will likely not respond to any emergency calls to those locations, nor consider ever investigating any event on their property, then it can be a lot of fun.
But that doesn't even happen in dreams.
Personally, I wouldn't mind if the DOJ/FBI, experts in covering up and destroying evidence, would simply hand over evidence and assist in any way possible for private journalists to dig and do their thing. The same way Musk handed over X files to Taibbi, Weiss, Fang, Shellenberg, Zweig and Berenson and let them do their thing.
No Party Member gets indicted in Babylon DC.
Now if the DOJ made a simple statement that they are doxxing the perps and will likely not respond to any emergency calls to those locations, nor consider ever investigating any event on their property, then it can be a lot of fun.
But that doesn't even happen in dreams.
Personally, I wouldn't mind if the DOJ/FBI, experts in covering up and destroying evidence, would simply hand over evidence and assist in any way possible for private journalists to dig and do their thing. The same way Musk handed over X files to Taibbi, Weiss, Fang, Shellenberg, Zweig and Berenson and let them do their thing.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (kHd4y)
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We need a special council with subpoena power. I'd like to recommend Trey Gowdy for the role.
Posted by: Jim Jordan at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (/U5Yz)
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78 Is the US sending the weapons to the EU who will then send them to Ukraine?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 06:48 PM (63Dwl)
The story is we are selling weapons to our NATO allies, who are then giving them to the Ukrainians.
So basically, Europe is paying our military industrial complex to build the weapons to give to Ukraine.
Which, as I've said, is an improvement over *me* paying for it, but it doesn't really address the underlying concern of us creating and getting involved in all kinds of wars all over the world.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 06:48 PM (63Dwl)
The story is we are selling weapons to our NATO allies, who are then giving them to the Ukrainians.
So basically, Europe is paying our military industrial complex to build the weapons to give to Ukraine.
Which, as I've said, is an improvement over *me* paying for it, but it doesn't really address the underlying concern of us creating and getting involved in all kinds of wars all over the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:51 PM (uCjyK)
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Also:
During PDT's 1st term, he Ordered ALL Russia Hoax docs to be released.
Do you remember what they told him? They told him: No. Nyet.
So not even the President can get docs/files released.
Also:
During PDT's 1st term, he Ordered ALL Russia Hoax docs to be released.
Do you remember what they told him? They told him: No. Nyet.
So not even the President can get docs/files released.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:51 PM (yWcpA)
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Regardless of who is buying the weapons and where they wind up, I still find much satisfaction in the fact the EU is actually paying for the weapons rather than the US just giving billions of dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine. Especially with the way that arrogant little jackass Zelensky spoke to President Trump and Vice President Vance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 06:51 PM (tT6L1)
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Jack Smith is so malevolent I would, figuratively, like to see him and all those who supported him burned at the stake in Times Square.
I'm sick of big time political crooks getting away with slanderous political assault on opponents.
I'm sick of DOJ not parading them to jail in Orange jumpsuits locked to a ball and chain.
I'm sick of big time political crooks getting away with slanderous political assault on opponents.
I'm sick of DOJ not parading them to jail in Orange jumpsuits locked to a ball and chain.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 06:52 PM (Kq8pV)
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fwiw, making the euros pay for it amuses me, because I'm sure it's a fraction of what they have been threatening to spend in order to take on Poo Tin all by their widdle selves.
Let's see what happens to their economies in the next few months.
Let's see what happens to their economies in the next few months.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:52 PM (ULPxl)
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What kind of LAPD cruiser fits inside a canoe?
I think I see the problem here.
I think I see the problem here.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 14, 2025 06:53 PM (DsA2n)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:53 PM (2yoRf)
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We need a special council with subpoena power. I'd like to recommend Trey Gowdy for the role.
Posted by: Jim Jordan at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (/U5Yz)
Trey has nice hair!
Posted by: Jim Jordan at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (/U5Yz)
Trey has nice hair!
Posted by: Zombie James Traficant, Yankee Asshole at July 14, 2025 06:53 PM (R/m4+)
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*looks at a picture of a Pomeranian*
Those hairballs look like they're good for nothing but fodder for pet Burmese pythons.
Those hairballs look like they're good for nothing but fodder for pet Burmese pythons.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 06:53 PM (gKWVE)
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Peace is not the default position of humanity. Weapons are the big ticket export for a reason.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:53 PM (HFcKg)
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>>> 89 Speaking of Top Men.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (/U5Yz)
You mean "sold by the cop to a gang-banger for an ounce of blow and a hooker", right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (rU4Z2)
It's funny because it's true.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 06:41 PM (/U5Yz)
You mean "sold by the cop to a gang-banger for an ounce of blow and a hooker", right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (rU4Z2)
It's funny because it's true.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:53 PM (ULPxl)
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>We need a special council with subpoena power. I'd like to recommend Trey Gowdy for the role.
Posted by: Jim Jordan
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no, he has an oddly-shaped head
Posted by: Jim Jordan
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no, he has an oddly-shaped head
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM (AOsQT)
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Right now, I don't give a shit about Ukraine or Epstein or Clinton.
Fix the damn prices of groceries and fix the damn high interest rates. Fix the corporations buying housing as investment and driving people to apartments.
I'm more furious with what companies are doing with price gouging and market manipulation than I am with that wannabe dictator Zelensky.
Fix the damn prices of groceries and fix the damn high interest rates. Fix the corporations buying housing as investment and driving people to apartments.
I'm more furious with what companies are doing with price gouging and market manipulation than I am with that wannabe dictator Zelensky.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM (aOqEy)
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The US Senate is standing by to get to the bottom of this
horrendous corruption of justice.
horrendous corruption of justice.
Posted by: Charles Grassley at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM (/U5Yz)
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Well, giving zelensky the means to continue his war is No Good, in my view.
I want it Over, not enabled.
Well, giving zelensky the means to continue his war is No Good, in my view.
I want it Over, not enabled.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM (rK1H6)
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Is the US sending the weapons to the EU who will then send them to Ukraine?
The US is very very good at laundering money and weapons, so it is natural that they use their well tuned supply chain to do the crap only the Banksters and MIC want to get done.
The US is very very good at laundering money and weapons, so it is natural that they use their well tuned supply chain to do the crap only the Banksters and MIC want to get done.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 06:55 PM (kHd4y)
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i saw at zero hedge that some dems like ro khahanna are saying they're going to introduce a resolution calling for release of all the epstein files.
reminder: it wasn't trump who demanded a debate last summer.
reminder: it wasn't trump who demanded a debate last summer.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 06:55 PM (CWTWj)
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Well, giving zelensky the means to continue his war is No Good, in my view.
I bet you that behind closed doors, Trump had to capitulate to the Endless War enthusiasts to get his B³ passed.
I bet you that behind closed doors, Trump had to capitulate to the Endless War enthusiasts to get his B³ passed.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM (kHd4y)
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I'm pissed off over egg equality. Why are brown eggs 30% higher than white eggs. Stop the discrimination.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM (HFcKg)
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During PDT's 1st term, he Ordered ALL Russia Hoax docs to be released.
Do you remember what they told him? They told him: No. Nyet.
So not even the President can get docs/files released.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:51 PM (yWcpA)
Yes, Sooth, that's what I've been arguing. The reason this Epstein thing is such a big deal is it's showing that Trump was told to "back down" and he did. Just like he admits to having done over the JFK files last time he was in office. He said Brennan (or whoever) told him not to release them, despite the law saying they had to be released, and Trump trusted him and said okay and didn't release them.
Neither did Biden.
Then Trump 2.0 released most of them after lamenting that he listened to the CIA last time. And he said he wouldn't fall for that again. But here we are.
Do you remember what they told him? They told him: No. Nyet.
So not even the President can get docs/files released.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:51 PM (yWcpA)
Yes, Sooth, that's what I've been arguing. The reason this Epstein thing is such a big deal is it's showing that Trump was told to "back down" and he did. Just like he admits to having done over the JFK files last time he was in office. He said Brennan (or whoever) told him not to release them, despite the law saying they had to be released, and Trump trusted him and said okay and didn't release them.
Neither did Biden.
Then Trump 2.0 released most of them after lamenting that he listened to the CIA last time. And he said he wouldn't fall for that again. But here we are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM (uCjyK)
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Corporations raised prices because of Covid and realized they just don't ever have to bring them back down. People paid more. They thought,
Hmmm...what if we raise them again?
Just blame it on whatever 'pandemic' or global issue is going on at the time.
Like eggs. Blame it on bird flu but then if you really look at the data, the largest egg producer in the world barely had a blip in their production because of the avian flu, yet tripled their prices.
Hmmm...what if we raise them again?
Just blame it on whatever 'pandemic' or global issue is going on at the time.
Like eggs. Blame it on bird flu but then if you really look at the data, the largest egg producer in the world barely had a blip in their production because of the avian flu, yet tripled their prices.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:57 PM (aOqEy)
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I am going to name my new bloodhound Jim Jordan. She is actually a Pomeranian.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (MMp6W)
I snorted.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (MMp6W)
I snorted.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 06:58 PM (W/lyH)
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I'm pissed off over egg equality. Why are brown eggs 30% higher than white eggs.
Posted by: Ben Had
Closer to the weed farm?
Posted by: Ben Had
Closer to the weed farm?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 06:59 PM (mlg/3)
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Be well, ScoggDog, if indeed that was your name.
Posted by: EFG
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Just a reminder, making threats (even trying to be clever about it) results in the banhammer. Scogg has been banned multiple times for violations of the really loose code which is why he keeps changing nics and uses a vpn to do that--basically don't threaten others, don't get involved in personal insult wars, and don't piss off Ace or the cobs.
There are some others that have been banned that you see from time to time come back to mess with people or to disrupt conversations--Blago, moo moo, BSG, Widespread Pepe, etc.
For whatever reason, AoS seems to attract previously banned individuals coming back over and over again to do shit and then leave a mess for teh cobs to clean up. Part of that is Ace doesn't require registration as some other sites do (would end sock puppetry for example). Another way would require IP probing and fingerprinting systems which ends a lot of repeat troll business. The third is require payment which is how a number of places are going--comments only for those that pay. Trolling and getting banned for it becomes less appealing if you keep losing bucks over it.
FWIW
Posted by: EFG
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Just a reminder, making threats (even trying to be clever about it) results in the banhammer. Scogg has been banned multiple times for violations of the really loose code which is why he keeps changing nics and uses a vpn to do that--basically don't threaten others, don't get involved in personal insult wars, and don't piss off Ace or the cobs.
There are some others that have been banned that you see from time to time come back to mess with people or to disrupt conversations--Blago, moo moo, BSG, Widespread Pepe, etc.
For whatever reason, AoS seems to attract previously banned individuals coming back over and over again to do shit and then leave a mess for teh cobs to clean up. Part of that is Ace doesn't require registration as some other sites do (would end sock puppetry for example). Another way would require IP probing and fingerprinting systems which ends a lot of repeat troll business. The third is require payment which is how a number of places are going--comments only for those that pay. Trolling and getting banned for it becomes less appealing if you keep losing bucks over it.
FWIW
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 06:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Ukraine Support Tracker
A Database of Military, Financial and Humanitarian Aid to Ukraine
https://tinyurl.com/2mnj4bsk
A Database of Military, Financial and Humanitarian Aid to Ukraine
https://tinyurl.com/2mnj4bsk
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 07:00 PM (2yoRf)
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The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
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I immediately imagined what my old Sgt. Major would have to say to a reponsible troop. Flaying would be kinder.
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I immediately imagined what my old Sgt. Major would have to say to a reponsible troop. Flaying would be kinder.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L)
119
IN other news, Cloudfare had a major outage today.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:01 PM (ctrM5)
120
Regarding the Jeffrey Epstein thing, put it to rest once for all time. Release everything and let people go through it, let it rip. It's the only way for the Trump admin to move on to actually governing for MAGA.
I know there is the temptation to protect some innocents or to keep damaging info to hold over those who are troublesome or could be useful. Get it over with, don't let this stupid thing derail the whole MAGA project.
I know there is the temptation to protect some innocents or to keep damaging info to hold over those who are troublesome or could be useful. Get it over with, don't let this stupid thing derail the whole MAGA project.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 07:01 PM (unUNN)
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Even if they can't get any prosecutions because of statutes of limitation it will be good to have everything on the record.
I suspect a lot more will come out that's been hidden for a decade.
It's just a shame that this Russiagate conspiracy will never stick to Obama the same way Watergate became synonymous with Nixon.
I suspect a lot more will come out that's been hidden for a decade.
It's just a shame that this Russiagate conspiracy will never stick to Obama the same way Watergate became synonymous with Nixon.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 07:02 PM (6ydKt)
122
I just can't quit ya'!
Posted by: cumjeff at July 14, 2025 07:03 PM (2yoRf)
123
Originally thought Putin wanted everything but became convinced he just wanted the Donbas. Biden & Co doing everything humanly possible to prod, cajole and irritate Putin served to solidify that thought.
Putin, declining Trump, a great negotiator, and pressing forward harder than before along with reunification statements from Putin and NATO cause me to think Putin sees the perimeter as either Russia or NATO.
Adding Finland to NATO pushed it over the line.
Putin, declining Trump, a great negotiator, and pressing forward harder than before along with reunification statements from Putin and NATO cause me to think Putin sees the perimeter as either Russia or NATO.
Adding Finland to NATO pushed it over the line.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 07:03 PM (Kq8pV)
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Fix the damn prices of groceries and fix the damn high interest rates.
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Interest rates aren't high. They're low, historically speaking, and we can't really pretend the economy is good until they're two to three times higher, and we're still getting growth.
Right now, we're still faking it off of debt expansion (see, for example, the BBB).
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Interest rates aren't high. They're low, historically speaking, and we can't really pretend the economy is good until they're two to three times higher, and we're still getting growth.
Right now, we're still faking it off of debt expansion (see, for example, the BBB).
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 07:03 PM (zLwRl)
125
IN other news, Cloudfare had a major outage today.
Posted by: whig
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I despise Cloudflare. I always end up in an endless loop there.
Posted by: whig
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I despise Cloudflare. I always end up in an endless loop there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 07:04 PM (XeU6L)
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Sad news, gentlemen, Téa Leoni is off the market, having just gotten married.
Posted by: AoSHQ Roving 'Ron Reporter at July 14, 2025 07:04 PM (0sNs1)
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Under-promise, over-deliver!
That was a good plan on any job I ever did, and promise to Bride of PI, etc.
I am trying to think of any time where that is a bad policy?
(Unless you are a snake oil salesman or a Democrat bureaucrat.)
That was a good plan on any job I ever did, and promise to Bride of PI, etc.
I am trying to think of any time where that is a bad policy?
(Unless you are a snake oil salesman or a Democrat bureaucrat.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (HlyYF)
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122 I just can't quit ya'!
Posted by: cumjeff
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Applebee's is calling your number for pickup.
Posted by: cumjeff
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Applebee's is calling your number for pickup.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (ctrM5)
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18 % interest rates say " remember me?"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (HFcKg)
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I guess this is the unofficial Quick Hits ergo...
𝕐o̴g̴ @Yoda4ever Jul 13
When two groups of penguins pass each other, stopping briefly to exchange information, one of them gets mixed with the wrong group, a friend goes after him to bring him back.🐧 🐧 🐧 🙂 😅
https://tinyurl.com/6uaxurnn
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L.Vaughn2/@ IndianaVaughn @indianaVon2 Replying to @Yoda4ever
Its name is Biden!
𝕐o̴g̴ @Yoda4ever Jul 13
When two groups of penguins pass each other, stopping briefly to exchange information, one of them gets mixed with the wrong group, a friend goes after him to bring him back.🐧 🐧 🐧 🙂 😅
https://tinyurl.com/6uaxurnn
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L.Vaughn2/@ IndianaVaughn @indianaVon2 Replying to @Yoda4ever
Its name is Biden!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (2yoRf)
131
Tea Leoni? The 6 from 1995?
Tea Leoni? The 6 from 1995?
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (u1+7i)
132
Ha ha!
If you can't orchestrate a proper coup, how can you possibly change a sacred democracy to a Marxist Paradise and hold power?
If you can't orchestrate a proper coup, how can you possibly change a sacred democracy to a Marxist Paradise and hold power?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (/gTjv)
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104 >We need a special council with subpoena power. I'd like to recommend Trey Gowdy for the role.
Posted by: Jim Jordan
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no, he has an oddly-shaped head
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM (AOsQT)
i would not be surprised if Matt Gatz phone rang sometime in the next few weeks...
Posted by: Jim Jordan
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no, he has an oddly-shaped head
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM (AOsQT)
i would not be surprised if Matt Gatz phone rang sometime in the next few weeks...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (bA75n)
134
Get it over with, don't let this stupid thing derail the whole MAGA project.
Surely you grossly over-estimate the typical American's attention span.
Surely you grossly over-estimate the typical American's attention span.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (kHd4y)
135
I had a little bit of work done to level a brick sidewalk. It took two guys a little less than two days to complete. No materials beyond a little bit of crushed limestone. $6,000+.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (MMp6W)
136
FWIW
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 06:59 PM (ctrM5)
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you saw the veiled threat, too? I thought maybe I was reading a bit much into it.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 06:59 PM (ctrM5)
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you saw the veiled threat, too? I thought maybe I was reading a bit much into it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (tT6L1)
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Fix the damn prices of groceries and fix the damn high interest rates. Fix the corporations buying housing as investment and driving people to apartments.
I'm more furious with what companies are doing with price gouging and market manipulation than I am with that wannabe dictator Zelensky.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM
No bile for the lack of Yoko on the ONT lately?
I'm more furious with what companies are doing with price gouging and market manipulation than I am with that wannabe dictator Zelensky.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM
No bile for the lack of Yoko on the ONT lately?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (0sNs1)
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17 I want Hillary Clinton in an orange jumper, frogwalked for all of the world to see.
But what I want and what I get are two different types of cheese.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:37 PM (JL0Wh)
'no reasonable prosecutor.......'
But what I want and what I get are two different types of cheese.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:37 PM (JL0Wh)
'no reasonable prosecutor.......'
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (LHPAg)
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Adding Finland to NATO pushed it over the line.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 07:03 PM
Add that to joe biden once stating that it would be OK for russia to invade ukraine just a little bit and then later stating that ukraine would be immediately admitted into NATO and regime change in russia was the only option to stop the war, I can understand why russia is doing what it is doing.
Not condoning the invasion by russia but I can see why putin did it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 07:03 PM
Add that to joe biden once stating that it would be OK for russia to invade ukraine just a little bit and then later stating that ukraine would be immediately admitted into NATO and regime change in russia was the only option to stop the war, I can understand why russia is doing what it is doing.
Not condoning the invasion by russia but I can see why putin did it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (e5NfL)
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She said, "hang."
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Probably apocryphal. Is there a source or cite for that? It’s a wonderful sentiment, to be sure. But it sounds click-baity.
When did the F.B.I. get queered? They were, for all their faults, doing good work against commies and hippies and the usual suspects at least up until the 1960s, rolling up sandal wearers, vegetarians, fruititarians, and other anarchists and bomb throwers.
The problem generally for many years was a DOJ who refused to prosecute, usually on orders from the White House. Is that what Comey was up against? Mrs Clinton is a thoroughly odious figure politically and probably a Red. None of these bitches would ever pass a standard security investigation.
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Probably apocryphal. Is there a source or cite for that? It’s a wonderful sentiment, to be sure. But it sounds click-baity.
When did the F.B.I. get queered? They were, for all their faults, doing good work against commies and hippies and the usual suspects at least up until the 1960s, rolling up sandal wearers, vegetarians, fruititarians, and other anarchists and bomb throwers.
The problem generally for many years was a DOJ who refused to prosecute, usually on orders from the White House. Is that what Comey was up against? Mrs Clinton is a thoroughly odious figure politically and probably a Red. None of these bitches would ever pass a standard security investigation.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (bjUfh)
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I despise Cloudflare. I always end up in an endless loop there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Eh. They offer encrypted DNS for free to people which is pretty nice actually. Stops a lot of ad trackers etc when used with a vpn.
However, their focus on on business services to prevent DoS attacks, etc.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Eh. They offer encrypted DNS for free to people which is pretty nice actually. Stops a lot of ad trackers etc when used with a vpn.
However, their focus on on business services to prevent DoS attacks, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (ctrM5)
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Still, not as epic as Marilyn Chambers in Rabid where she has a phallic, vampiric stinger in her armpit.
How cool was that?!
Posted by: Tonypete
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Sounds soapy.
How cool was that?!
Posted by: Tonypete
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Sounds soapy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (Kq8pV)
143
This time, you'll have to buy me dinner first.
Posted by: Cheri at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (FGQ5G)
144
111 I'm pissed off over egg equality. Why are brown eggs 30% higher than white eggs. Stop the discrimination.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM
Want me to build you a chicken coop after the next MoMe?
I know you could easily lower your egg costs!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM
Want me to build you a chicken coop after the next MoMe?
I know you could easily lower your egg costs!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: EFG at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (6Y7N9)
146
Did anyone see the George Santos interview with Tucker? Basically, Congress is a debauched entity of perverts that are sloppy drunk 100 percent of time and have wild sex in the basement, which they call the cage, with anyone that can fog a mirror.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)
147
I actively rooted for Tea Leoni to become dinochow in Jurassic Park III
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 07:08 PM (Ry3Y5)
148
Is the FIB still getting their $1B new building? Maybe they can share it the federal reserve which is building its own $2.5B palace.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:08 PM (ImXfC)
149
Trey gowdy is like foghorn leghorn high on the hat low on the cattle
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 14, 2025 07:08 PM (bXbFr)
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unusual_whales @unusual_whales 4h
Uno is reportedly being added as a table game to casinos in Las Vegas, per Yahoo Sports.
Mattel, $MAT, is debuting the first-ever UNO Social Club in Las Vegas at the Palms Casino Resort.
Uno is reportedly being added as a table game to casinos in Las Vegas, per Yahoo Sports.
Mattel, $MAT, is debuting the first-ever UNO Social Club in Las Vegas at the Palms Casino Resort.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 07:08 PM (2yoRf)
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Putin, declining Trump, a great negotiator, and pressing forward harder than before along with reunification statements from Putin and NATO cause me to think Putin sees the perimeter as either Russia or NATO.
Adding Finland to NATO pushed it over the line.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I think that in addition to what he has, he wants Karkhov, plus maybe Odessa and the rest of the Black Sea coast, linking up with Moldova. Although they don't seem to be doing much along the Black Sea.
Adding Finland to NATO pushed it over the line.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I think that in addition to what he has, he wants Karkhov, plus maybe Odessa and the rest of the Black Sea coast, linking up with Moldova. Although they don't seem to be doing much along the Black Sea.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 07:08 PM (p16cu)
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I want Hillary Clinton in an orange jumper, frogwalked for all of the world to see.
Don't you have any sympathy for her life long SS detail?
Don't you have any sympathy for her life long SS detail?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:09 PM (kHd4y)
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133 104 >We need a special council with subpoena power. I'd like to recommend Trey Gowdy for the role.
Posted by: Jim Jordan
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no, he has an oddly-shaped head
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM (AOsQT)
i would not be surprised if Matt Gatz phone rang sometime in the next few weeks...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (bA75n)
Good old fashioned Joe Wilson, maybe even Louie Gohmert.
Posted by: Jim Jordan
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no, he has an oddly-shaped head
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 06:54 PM (AOsQT)
i would not be surprised if Matt Gatz phone rang sometime in the next few weeks...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (bA75n)
Good old fashioned Joe Wilson, maybe even Louie Gohmert.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 07:09 PM (LHPAg)
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you saw the veiled threat, too? I thought maybe I was reading a bit much into it.
Posted by: blake
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Yep, the implicit threat was there directed towards JackStraw and CBD.
Course, I doubt the perp would show up at a MoMeet, especially with Ben Had running things.
Posted by: blake
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Yep, the implicit threat was there directed towards JackStraw and CBD.
Course, I doubt the perp would show up at a MoMeet, especially with Ben Had running things.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:09 PM (ctrM5)
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IN other news, Cloudfare had a major outage today.
Posted by: whig
IN old news, found out today "Dexter" had several spin-offs. None of which can I watch w/o money. So won't.
Posted by: whig
IN old news, found out today "Dexter" had several spin-offs. None of which can I watch w/o money. So won't.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 07:09 PM (/lPRQ)
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146 Did anyone see the George Santos interview with Tucker? Basically, Congress is a debauched entity of perverts that are sloppy drunk 100 percent of time and have wild sex in the basement, which they call the cage, with anyone that can fog a mirror.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)
No, but doesn't exactly sound like breaking news.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)
No, but doesn't exactly sound like breaking news.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 07:09 PM (uCjyK)
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18 % interest rates say " remember me?"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (HFcKg)
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I worked with people who bought houses at near those rates. They almost always went with the ARM. Crazy times.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (HFcKg)
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I worked with people who bought houses at near those rates. They almost always went with the ARM. Crazy times.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 07:09 PM (tT6L1)
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146 Did anyone see the George Santos interview with Tucker? Basically, Congress is a debauched entity of perverts that are sloppy drunk 100 percent of time and have wild sex in the basement, which they call the cage, with anyone that can fog a mirror.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)
I’m shocked!!!
- nobody
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)
I’m shocked!!!
- nobody
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:09 PM (ImXfC)
159
It seems a little disingenuous to argue passionately that Disney movies and Women's sports are important hills to die on and this Epstein fellow isn't.
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at July 14, 2025 07:10 PM (0DnHq)
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One more thing, Trump will have to decide whom to sacrifice among Epstein's clients if he wants the issue to go away. Bread and circuses, and those circus clowns better be big and famous.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 07:10 PM (unUNN)
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I always thought Tea Leoni was smoking hot.
Wasn't she married to Duchovny?
Wasn't she married to Duchovny?
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 14, 2025 07:10 PM (ufFY8)
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118 The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is asking the public’s help in locating a Colt M4 rifle and five loaded 30 round magazines that somehow fell out of the back of a cruiser in South LA.
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I immediately imagined what my old Sgt. Major would have to say to a reponsible troop. Flaying would be kinder.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 07:00 P
I hadn't heard the news that Michael Byrd had moved from the Capitol Police over to the LA Sheriff's Dept.
That sounds like his work!
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I immediately imagined what my old Sgt. Major would have to say to a reponsible troop. Flaying would be kinder.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 07:00 P
I hadn't heard the news that Michael Byrd had moved from the Capitol Police over to the LA Sheriff's Dept.
That sounds like his work!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 07:11 PM (HlyYF)
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148 Is the FIB still getting their $1B new building?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Nope, Trump has the FBI going to the mostly unused Trade building. That was built in the late 80's early 90's and is the Ronald Reagan building now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Nope, Trump has the FBI going to the mostly unused Trade building. That was built in the late 80's early 90's and is the Ronald Reagan building now.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:11 PM (ctrM5)
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>>> 159 It seems a little disingenuous to argue passionately that Disney movies and Women's sports are important hills to die on and this Epstein fellow isn't.
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at July 14, 2025 07:10 PM (0DnHq)
I think I willowed myself earlier. Rephrasing...
Why do you think *we* should die on the hill, instead of making the filth die?
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at July 14, 2025 07:10 PM (0DnHq)
I think I willowed myself earlier. Rephrasing...
Why do you think *we* should die on the hill, instead of making the filth die?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:11 PM (ULPxl)
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135 I had a little bit of work done to level a brick sidewalk. It took two guys a little less than two days to complete. No materials beyond a little bit of crushed limestone. $6,000+.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (MMp6W)
Only one of the reasons you need a backhoe. You won't believe #3!
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (MMp6W)
Only one of the reasons you need a backhoe. You won't believe #3!
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 07:11 PM (LHPAg)
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18% rate when a house cost $50k. And they 18% was refinanced a bunch of times over the next 30 years. Now that house is worth $500k.
Long term it was a pretty good deal.
Long term it was a pretty good deal.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:12 PM (ImXfC)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 07:12 PM (Z7qH5)
168
Special Counsel that spends two years working on a case. That's OK? The DoJ better have their shit together tomorrow.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:12 PM (HFcKg)
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Originally thought Putin wanted everything but became convinced he just wanted the Donbas. Biden & Co doing everything humanly possible to prod, cajole and irritate Putin served to solidify that thought.
Putin, declining Trump, a great negotiator, and pressing forward harder than before along with reunification statements from Putin and NATO cause me to think Putin sees the perimeter as either Russia or NATO.
Adding Finland to NATO pushed it over the line.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 07:03 PM (Kq8pV)
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Apparently Putin informed Trump recently that there will be a new Russia offensive within the next 60 days.
This will be a push (perhaps final?) to occupy the entire areas of the oblasts in Eastern Ukraine that he's after.
Then Putin can claim the objectives of the 'Special Military Operation' have been reached and he can arrange a ceasefire.
Trump announcing today that they'll be sending more Patriot missile batteries to Ukraine is a reaction to that news, I believe.
This war may still end this year.
It seems it all depends on what happens when the winter comes and this new offensive has ended.
Putin, declining Trump, a great negotiator, and pressing forward harder than before along with reunification statements from Putin and NATO cause me to think Putin sees the perimeter as either Russia or NATO.
Adding Finland to NATO pushed it over the line.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 07:03 PM (Kq8pV)
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Apparently Putin informed Trump recently that there will be a new Russia offensive within the next 60 days.
This will be a push (perhaps final?) to occupy the entire areas of the oblasts in Eastern Ukraine that he's after.
Then Putin can claim the objectives of the 'Special Military Operation' have been reached and he can arrange a ceasefire.
Trump announcing today that they'll be sending more Patriot missile batteries to Ukraine is a reaction to that news, I believe.
This war may still end this year.
It seems it all depends on what happens when the winter comes and this new offensive has ended.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 07:12 PM (6ydKt)
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Only one of the reasons you need a backhoe. You won't believe #3!
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I believe all of 'em, but don't have the funds for the thing yet.
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I believe all of 'em, but don't have the funds for the thing yet.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 07:13 PM (vd6bO)
171
None dare call it coup.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 07:13 PM (L/fGl)
172
Adding Finland to NATO pushed it over the line.
If Trump was really serious about:
• Instantly ending the Ukraine/Russia lover's quarrel
• Crippling the Deep State, Five Eyes, other evil
• Saving hundreds of billions of dollars
• Keep the US out of endless wars
• Preserve our Peace Through Strength stance
• Have his face on Mt Rushmore
He would pull the US out of NATO. Let Europe enlist anyone they want.
If Trump was really serious about:
• Instantly ending the Ukraine/Russia lover's quarrel
• Crippling the Deep State, Five Eyes, other evil
• Saving hundreds of billions of dollars
• Keep the US out of endless wars
• Preserve our Peace Through Strength stance
• Have his face on Mt Rushmore
He would pull the US out of NATO. Let Europe enlist anyone they want.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:13 PM (kHd4y)
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167
George Santos is a fucking wacko weirdo.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer
I don't disagree with you but, he was sincere in his interview IMO.
George Santos is a fucking wacko weirdo.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer
I don't disagree with you but, he was sincere in his interview IMO.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:13 PM (/U5Yz)
174
asically, Congress is a debauched entity of perverts that are sloppy drunk 100 percent of time and have wild sex in the basement, which they call the cage, with anyone that can fog a mirror.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)
Is that wrong?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)
Is that wrong?
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at July 14, 2025 07:14 PM (R/m4+)
175
Well, Santos was an above-average Congressional Republican as long as they let him stay there, and didn't film himself taking it up the ass on company premises.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 07:14 PM (gKWVE)
176
If we get to a special counsel it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be Ed Martin. After Trump pulled his nomination for DC US Attorney he was put in charge of looking into government weaponization at the DOJ. That's what this is all about.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 07:15 PM (viF8m)
177
Didnt that congressman from nc say the same thing
Having sweden and finland pony up the table makes vlad feel like his hero peter the great
Having sweden and finland pony up the table makes vlad feel like his hero peter the great
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 14, 2025 07:15 PM (bXbFr)
178
had a little bit of work done to level a brick sidewalk. It took two guys a little less than two days to complete. No materials beyond a little bit of crushed limestone. $6,000+.
Posted by: Oglebay
I had small part of a fence replaced. Maybe 25 feet long, 6 ft high. 2 guys, day and a half of work. $4k including materials which was basically some wood. Didn’t include painting or staining.
Posted by: Oglebay
I had small part of a fence replaced. Maybe 25 feet long, 6 ft high. 2 guys, day and a half of work. $4k including materials which was basically some wood. Didn’t include painting or staining.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:15 PM (ImXfC)
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157 18 % interest rates say " remember me?"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (HFcKg)
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Heaps of humiliation upon Powell.
Trump has an economic plan that consists of several parts. All parts must come into plan in order for the plan to work long term.
We can see evidence of the plan benefiting us as individuals and the country as a whole.
Lowering interest rates is a key part of the plan an its long term efficacy but Political Powell works to sabotage the plan as best he can. Fie
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (HFcKg)
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Heaps of humiliation upon Powell.
Trump has an economic plan that consists of several parts. All parts must come into plan in order for the plan to work long term.
We can see evidence of the plan benefiting us as individuals and the country as a whole.
Lowering interest rates is a key part of the plan an its long term efficacy but Political Powell works to sabotage the plan as best he can. Fie
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 07:15 PM (Kq8pV)
180
I'm pissed off over egg equality. Why are brown eggs 30% higher than white eggs. Stop the discrimination.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM
Want me to build you a chicken coop after the next MoMe?
I know you could easily lower your egg costs!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
Take the deal.
The coop is the most expensive part of having chickens.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM
Want me to build you a chicken coop after the next MoMe?
I know you could easily lower your egg costs!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
Take the deal.
The coop is the most expensive part of having chickens.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 07:16 PM (/lPRQ)
181
Remember, the George Santos testimony jibes with that of one term congressman Madison Cawthorn.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 07:17 PM (tT6L1)
182
Santos and the former NC congressman in a wheelchair both told the same story about congressional behavior. Both were nuts and had axes to grind. However given things that have come to light over the years about Congress they're probably correct
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 07:17 PM (Ry3Y5)
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The New York Times today repeated the Dem talking point that Trump's 2017 tax cut mostly benefited the rich - "90% of the cut went to the the top 10%!"
The top 10% earns 50% of the income and pays 75% of the taxes. That means a flat percentage across the board cut in federal tax rates would disproportionately benefit the top 10%. I was going to do a calculation, but I am on my second cocktail and math is forbidden, n'est-ce pas?
The top 10% earns 50% of the income and pays 75% of the taxes. That means a flat percentage across the board cut in federal tax rates would disproportionately benefit the top 10%. I was going to do a calculation, but I am on my second cocktail and math is forbidden, n'est-ce pas?
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:18 PM (MMp6W)
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Nope, Trump has the FBI going to the mostly unused Trade building. That was built in the late 80's early 90's and is the Ronald Reagan building now.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:11 PM (ctrM5)
I would like to see them move into an old K-Mart in Minot, North Dakota.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:11 PM (ctrM5)
I would like to see them move into an old K-Mart in Minot, North Dakota.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 07:18 PM (uWKK8)
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The problem generally for many years was a DOJ who refused to prosecute, usually on orders from the White House. Is that what Comey was up against? Mrs Clinton is a thoroughly odious figure politically and probably a Red. None of these bitches would ever pass a standard security investigation.
Posted by: Common Tater
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FDR's State Dept. (and other agencies) was rife with known Reds. Hoover was disgusted, but because of the political ramifications for the Democrats, the DoJ would do nothing.
The problem generally for many years was a DOJ who refused to prosecute, usually on orders from the White House. Is that what Comey was up against? Mrs Clinton is a thoroughly odious figure politically and probably a Red. None of these bitches would ever pass a standard security investigation.
Posted by: Common Tater
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FDR's State Dept. (and other agencies) was rife with known Reds. Hoover was disgusted, but because of the political ramifications for the Democrats, the DoJ would do nothing.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 07:18 PM (XeU6L)
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180 I'm pissed off over egg equality. Why are brown eggs 30% higher than white eggs. Stop the discrimination.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Ben Had,
Brown eggs have thicker shells on average and cost more in feed than do white layers. So cost of producing brown eggs is higher than white ones.
No real difference in taste, nutrition,etc. which rely more on what the hens eat than brown versus white eggs.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Ben Had,
Brown eggs have thicker shells on average and cost more in feed than do white layers. So cost of producing brown eggs is higher than white ones.
No real difference in taste, nutrition,etc. which rely more on what the hens eat than brown versus white eggs.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:18 PM (ctrM5)
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Disney movies and Women's sports are important hills to die on and this Epstein fellow isn't.
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at July 14, 2025 07:10 PM
To be fair, Disney movies and Women's sports are still alive, while this Epstein fellow officially isn't.
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at July 14, 2025 07:10 PM
To be fair, Disney movies and Women's sports are still alive, while this Epstein fellow officially isn't.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 14, 2025 07:19 PM (0sNs1)
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Yep, the implicit threat was there directed towards JackStraw and CBD.
Course, I doubt the perp would show up at a MoMeet, especially with Ben Had running things.
There is a lot of alcohol, tobacco and firearms at Ben Had's annual party. One way or another threats don't last very long.
Course, I doubt the perp would show up at a MoMeet, especially with Ben Had running things.
There is a lot of alcohol, tobacco and firearms at Ben Had's annual party. One way or another threats don't last very long.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:19 PM (kHd4y)
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Santos and the former NC congressman in a wheelchair both told the same story about congressional behavior. Both were nuts and had axes to grind. However given things that have come to light over the years about Congress they're probably correct
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 07:17 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Didn't the former congressional pharmacist allude to many elected reps on various medications, especially ones used for Alzheimers?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 07:17 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Didn't the former congressional pharmacist allude to many elected reps on various medications, especially ones used for Alzheimers?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 07:19 PM (tT6L1)
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you saw the veiled threat, too? I thought maybe I was reading a bit much into it.
Did you see a veiled threat when certain groups where burning the 7-11 down around your house ?
Did you see a veiled threat when certain groups where burning the 7-11 down around your house ?
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 14, 2025 07:19 PM (kOKqg)
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Why would it be surprising that politicians do really shady shit? They’re pieces of shit. It would be a story if they didn’t what Santos said.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:20 PM (ImXfC)
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What are the Jews up to now?
Jory Micah@jorymicah
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
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Just wear a yarmulke, show them your dick, and you'll get an interest free loan and a free toaster.
Jory Micah@jorymicah
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
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Just wear a yarmulke, show them your dick, and you'll get an interest free loan and a free toaster.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 07:20 PM (L/fGl)
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The top 10% earns 50% of the income and pays 75% of the taxes. That means a flat percentage across the board cut in federal tax rates would disproportionately benefit the top 10%. I was going to do a calculation, but I am on my second cocktail and math is forbidden, n'est-ce pas?
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:18 PM (MMp6W)
It's a safe bet that any tax cut won't do anything for the 50% that don't pay any taxes anyways.
But it's pointless for them to push it, anyways. Most people figured out a long time ago that being the Party of High Taxes was incredibly stupid, that's where all the old Fiscal Conservatives went wrong.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 07:18 PM (MMp6W)
It's a safe bet that any tax cut won't do anything for the 50% that don't pay any taxes anyways.
But it's pointless for them to push it, anyways. Most people figured out a long time ago that being the Party of High Taxes was incredibly stupid, that's where all the old Fiscal Conservatives went wrong.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 07:20 PM (uWKK8)
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>> 176 If we get to a special counsel it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be Ed Martin. After Trump pulled his nomination for DC US Attorney he was put in charge of looking into government weaponization at the DOJ. That's what this is all about.
Didn't we establish with Jack Smith that the special prosecutor has to be confirmed by the Senate (definition of an "officer" or whatever that issue was)? Trump got the documents/election interference cases tossed on this fact didn't he?
If I'm remembering that right, then how would Ed get through confirmation as a special prosecutor when he couldn't get confirmed to do basically the same as DC Attorney? (same would apply to Gaetz, no?)
Didn't we establish with Jack Smith that the special prosecutor has to be confirmed by the Senate (definition of an "officer" or whatever that issue was)? Trump got the documents/election interference cases tossed on this fact didn't he?
If I'm remembering that right, then how would Ed get through confirmation as a special prosecutor when he couldn't get confirmed to do basically the same as DC Attorney? (same would apply to Gaetz, no?)
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 07:20 PM (8l8nW)
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>>> 186 180 I'm pissed off over egg equality. Why are brown eggs 30% higher than white eggs. Stop the discrimination.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Ben Had,
Brown eggs have thicker shells on average and cost more in feed than do white layers. So cost of producing brown eggs is higher than white ones.
No real difference in taste, nutrition,etc. which rely more on what the hens eat than brown versus white eggs.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:18 PM (ctrM5)
I am assuming this is about the types of birds used in mass production, because I can't tell any difference in how much my birdbrains eat vs the color of eggs they lay.
Bluebell the Hen lays a lighter brown egg.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Ben Had,
Brown eggs have thicker shells on average and cost more in feed than do white layers. So cost of producing brown eggs is higher than white ones.
No real difference in taste, nutrition,etc. which rely more on what the hens eat than brown versus white eggs.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:18 PM (ctrM5)
I am assuming this is about the types of birds used in mass production, because I can't tell any difference in how much my birdbrains eat vs the color of eggs they lay.
Bluebell the Hen lays a lighter brown egg.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:21 PM (ULPxl)
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'm pissed off over egg equality. Why are brown eggs 30% higher than white eggs. Stop the discrimination.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM
No love for blue, green, and olive ones?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM
No love for blue, green, and olive ones?
Posted by: The hens known as Easter eggers at July 14, 2025 07:21 PM (0sNs1)
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Take the deal.
The coop is the most expensive part of having chickens.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Most people get sick of having to tend chickens after a while. It was a craze around this area for awhile including making zoning changes for it. Has died down significantly here because suddenly after all the expenses and labor, eggs in the supermarket (or some poor guy raising backyard birds) suddenly look a lot better.
Livestock care is hard work 24/7 365 days per year.
The coop is the most expensive part of having chickens.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Most people get sick of having to tend chickens after a while. It was a craze around this area for awhile including making zoning changes for it. Has died down significantly here because suddenly after all the expenses and labor, eggs in the supermarket (or some poor guy raising backyard birds) suddenly look a lot better.
Livestock care is hard work 24/7 365 days per year.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:21 PM (ctrM5)
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Pillage Idiot, thanks darlin but I have plenty of spaces that can be converted but I also have an abundance of chicken killers.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM (HFcKg)
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I would like to see them move into an old K-Mart in Minot, North Dakota.
Posted by: Tom Servo
That is too good for them. It probably has restrooms and good HVAC.
Posted by: Tom Servo
That is too good for them. It probably has restrooms and good HVAC.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM (/U5Yz)
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Just wear a yarmulke, show them your dick, and you'll get an interest free loan and a free toaster.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 07:20 PM (L/fGl)
2 or 4 slice?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 07:20 PM (L/fGl)
2 or 4 slice?
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM (89Sog)
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OK ... I get it ... the play is "Now we have to be scared because somebody said "Fuck You".
Good Grief. Next thing you know, it'll be verbotten to tell the loudest folks on this board to go fuck themselves.
Which is exactly what those people want.
Good Grief. Next thing you know, it'll be verbotten to tell the loudest folks on this board to go fuck themselves.
Which is exactly what those people want.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM (kOKqg)
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50% pay no tax so right off the bat, 100% of any tax cut goes to 50% of tax payers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM (ImXfC)
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Famous people will do the perp walk while Trump does the Trump dance.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 14, 2025 07:23 PM (TBTzw)
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If I'm remembering that right, then how would Ed get through confirmation as a special prosecutor when he couldn't get confirmed to do basically the same as DC Attorney? (same would apply to Gaetz, no?)
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 07:20 PM (8l8nW)
Good point. Both of them will always be relegated to jobs that require no confirmation hearings. (Gaetz is especially problematic)
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 07:20 PM (8l8nW)
Good point. Both of them will always be relegated to jobs that require no confirmation hearings. (Gaetz is especially problematic)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 07:23 PM (uWKK8)
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I think the brown eggs are easier to remove the shell when you hard boil.
But maybe I'm just making that up.
But maybe I'm just making that up.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:24 PM (aOqEy)
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For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;
In transgressing and lying against the Lord, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
In transgressing and lying against the Lord, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
Posted by: Lord Comey at July 14, 2025 07:24 PM (/gTjv)
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Matt Gaetz skips his Charlie Kirk speech then rerouts flight to DC. Rumored at Trumps request to be named Special Council for new investigation
https://tinyurl.com/3cxdt9v9
https://tinyurl.com/3cxdt9v9
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 07:24 PM (uEWUd)
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>>> 202 50% pay no tax so right off the bat, 100% of any tax cut goes to 50% of tax payers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM (ImXfC)
"Racist!" -- XiNN, probably
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM (ImXfC)
"Racist!" -- XiNN, probably
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:24 PM (ULPxl)
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>>If I'm remembering that right, then how would Ed get through confirmation as a special prosecutor when he couldn't get confirmed to do basically the same as DC Attorney? (same would apply to Gaetz, no?)
I think the situation might be a bit different with a special counsel going after specific issues versus a US Attorney that has a much broader mandate. Particularly if evidence is provided to justify the special counsel. Maybe not, but he would be a logical pick.
I think the situation might be a bit different with a special counsel going after specific issues versus a US Attorney that has a much broader mandate. Particularly if evidence is provided to justify the special counsel. Maybe not, but he would be a logical pick.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 07:24 PM (viF8m)
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Jory Micah@jorymicah
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
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No it’s true. Jews show up and show the bank manager their weather machine and say if you don’t give me an interest free loan I’ll conjure up a tornado to come blow up your bank.
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
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No it’s true. Jews show up and show the bank manager their weather machine and say if you don’t give me an interest free loan I’ll conjure up a tornado to come blow up your bank.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:24 PM (ImXfC)
Posted by: RICO! at July 14, 2025 07:24 PM (yjVRK)
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Hmmm. You'd have a lot more lurkers in pay to play.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 07:24 PM (zZu0s)
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I am assuming this is about the types of birds used in mass production, because I can't tell any difference in how much my birdbrains eat vs the color of eggs they lay.
Bluebell the Hen lays a lighter brown egg.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
If you have a large enough flock to supply a supermarket, you damn sure know what your cost to produce is. Egg farmers, like most farmers, make a low profit margin and miscalculating inputs like cost of feed, etc. make you bankrupt in short order.
White leghorns are bred to lay over meat so you end up getting well over 300 plus eggs per year from a prime pullet until the first molt. Most chickens laying brown eggs don't come near that production.
Bluebell the Hen lays a lighter brown egg.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
If you have a large enough flock to supply a supermarket, you damn sure know what your cost to produce is. Egg farmers, like most farmers, make a low profit margin and miscalculating inputs like cost of feed, etc. make you bankrupt in short order.
White leghorns are bred to lay over meat so you end up getting well over 300 plus eggs per year from a prime pullet until the first molt. Most chickens laying brown eggs don't come near that production.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
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In one of the Blade the vampires engineered a Pomeranian vampire dog.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (/lPRQ)
In mythology, Vampires are creatures of unquenchable lust and overpowering, yet dark, sexuality.
Pomeranians will hump your leg, but I would expect a Boston terrier of some sort of Pug to be a better fit,
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 06:44 PM (/lPRQ)
In mythology, Vampires are creatures of unquenchable lust and overpowering, yet dark, sexuality.
Pomeranians will hump your leg, but I would expect a Boston terrier of some sort of Pug to be a better fit,
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 07:25 PM (D7oie)
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We have 14 hens. Just organic feed, hemp bedding, and incidentals make the eggs pretty much a break-even proposition. They free-range, but also are getting older, so production is down. Production took a hit last week, the cause of which was discovered to be a large Texas rat snake.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 14, 2025 07:26 PM (0sNs1)
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whig, I can taste the difference between the eggs. Nutritionally, there may be no difference but this is my egg hill to die on!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:26 PM (HFcKg)
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Having sweden and finland pony up the table makes vlad feel like his hero peter the great
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He needs the pencil moustache though!
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He needs the pencil moustache though!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 07:27 PM (2yoRf)
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Jory Micah@jorymicah
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
I wonder if they threatened them with their laser sharks?
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
I wonder if they threatened them with their laser sharks?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:27 PM (/U5Yz)
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205 I think the brown eggs are easier to remove the shell when you hard boil.
But maybe I'm just making that up.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Older eggs peel easier than fresh or there is an old device that puts a pin prick in the bottom of the shell. That lets the air out of the shell when boiling preventing cracking as well.
But maybe I'm just making that up.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Older eggs peel easier than fresh or there is an old device that puts a pin prick in the bottom of the shell. That lets the air out of the shell when boiling preventing cracking as well.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:28 PM (ctrM5)
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>> I think the situation might be a bit different with a special counsel going after specific issues versus a US Attorney that has a much broader mandate. Particularly if evidence is provided to justify the special counsel. Maybe not, but he would be a logical pick.
Right, but didn't we establish that a special counsel must be confirmed by the Senate or the case is invalid? The same people who opposed Martin as DC US-Attorney would have to flip to support him as a special counsel to dig into something they favored, which was the destruction of Trump.
Right, but didn't we establish that a special counsel must be confirmed by the Senate or the case is invalid? The same people who opposed Martin as DC US-Attorney would have to flip to support him as a special counsel to dig into something they favored, which was the destruction of Trump.
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 07:28 PM (8l8nW)
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@189 read something about that. The Garry Studds fooling around with pages, Dodd-Kennedy waitress sandwich and many other things demonstrate we don't elect the best
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 07:28 PM (Ry3Y5)
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That is too good for them. It probably has restrooms and good HVAC.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Ok, how about the KOA in Minot, North Dakota?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Ok, how about the KOA in Minot, North Dakota?
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 07:28 PM (emDE2)
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198 Pillage Idiot, thanks darlin but I have plenty of spaces that can be converted but I also have an abundance of chicken killers.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM
Unlike the Commies, at least this semi-useful Idiot understands, that if you want to make a great omelette, you have to start with a chicken coop ... instead of first breaking several million eggs!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:22 PM
Unlike the Commies, at least this semi-useful Idiot understands, that if you want to make a great omelette, you have to start with a chicken coop ... instead of first breaking several million eggs!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (HlyYF)
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This is like that eddie murphy sketch
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (bXbFr)
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White leghorns are bred to lay over meat so you end up getting well over 300 plus eggs per year from a prime pullet until the first molt. Most chickens laying brown eggs don't come near that production.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
So just stain the white eggs in stale coffee.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
So just stain the white eggs in stale coffee.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (vegAM)
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I went to jail for much less
Posted by: Douglass Mackey--Dems Vote Wednesdays at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (ynpvh)
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Our old big time buddy the ambassador to NATO was in the Oval today it was a men's only group. Vance,Rubio,Hegseth The Ukrainian Zelenskii replacement dude. That batl football dude that kicked the crap out of the impeachment 2 douchebags. Bad Azz
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (uEWUd)
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Not condoning the invasion by russia but I can see why putin did it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (e5NfL)
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Because he could and was told by Biden that he could. Putin's problem now is that he didn't know when to stop. There was a point early on when he had the territory he supposedly wanted that he could have kept with little negotiating, I suspect that's what he promised Biden's people but being a megalomaniac it got away from him and here we are.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (e5NfL)
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Because he could and was told by Biden that he could. Putin's problem now is that he didn't know when to stop. There was a point early on when he had the territory he supposedly wanted that he could have kept with little negotiating, I suspect that's what he promised Biden's people but being a megalomaniac it got away from him and here we are.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (unUNN)
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218 Jory Micah@jorymicah
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
Well that's only the second dumbest thing I've read today.
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
Well that's only the second dumbest thing I've read today.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (aOqEy)
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Jory Micah@jorymicah
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
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They run foreign policy, they use Epstein to blackmail Trump with their MOSSAS, and they get interest free loans in America ??!! This cannot stand !1!1
Jews don’t have to pay interest on bank loans in America but everyone else does.
I’m dead serious.
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They run foreign policy, they use Epstein to blackmail Trump with their MOSSAS, and they get interest free loans in America ??!! This cannot stand !1!1
Posted by: Tucker Carlson at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (g47mK)
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Ok, how about the KOA in Minot, North Dakota?
Posted by: t-bird
Now we're talking. Only if their dump station is never sucked out.
Posted by: t-bird
Now we're talking. Only if their dump station is never sucked out.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 07:30 PM (/U5Yz)
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Nood
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 14, 2025 07:30 PM (GYt5+)
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216 whig, I can taste the difference between the eggs. Nutritionally, there may be no difference but this is my egg hill to die on!
Posted by: Ben Had
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It may be more what the brand is feeding their eggs than the actual color. Bone meal, soybean meal, fish meal, all give different, if mild flavoring. Free range hens vary according to diet more but there are some other issues like medicines etc. that can affect the taste of teh eggs from that source as well.
Posted by: Ben Had
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It may be more what the brand is feeding their eggs than the actual color. Bone meal, soybean meal, fish meal, all give different, if mild flavoring. Free range hens vary according to diet more but there are some other issues like medicines etc. that can affect the taste of teh eggs from that source as well.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:31 PM (ctrM5)
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Because he could and was told by Biden that he could.
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and if Biden said he could not , he would do it anyway. in other words, what biden said was extremely irrelevant to Putin
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and if Biden said he could not , he would do it anyway. in other words, what biden said was extremely irrelevant to Putin
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:31 PM (g47mK)
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Production took a hit last week, the cause of which was discovered to be a large Texas rat snake.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 14, 2025 07:26 PM
Weasels have a solution to that problem.
Weasel has a more forceful, different solution!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 14, 2025 07:26 PM
Weasels have a solution to that problem.
Weasel has a more forceful, different solution!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 07:31 PM (HlyYF)
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Matt Whitaker US rep to NACHO. Not Cho Problem
Special Prosecutor
Special Prosecutor
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 07:32 PM (uEWUd)
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So just stain the white eggs in stale coffee.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM
I know a drunken one legged hillbilly that puts eggs into his coffee percolator and soft boils them while he is making his coffee for breakfast. They come out brown.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM
I know a drunken one legged hillbilly that puts eggs into his coffee percolator and soft boils them while he is making his coffee for breakfast. They come out brown.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 07:32 PM (e5NfL)
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>>> 213
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If you have a large enough flock to supply a supermarket, you damn sure know what your cost to produce is. Egg farmers, like most farmers, make a low profit margin and miscalculating inputs like cost of feed, etc. make you bankrupt in short order.
White leghorns are bred to lay over meat so you end up getting well over 300 plus eggs per year from a prime pullet until the first molt. Most chickens laying brown eggs don't come near that production.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
Right, I'm not trying to pay my own salary, just have eggs for myself. I knew leghorns were the most common production egg layers and that average is more than probably all the birds I have. I'd be a bit surprised if no one could get a brown layer breed (or hybrid) to a similar level but, who would bother since most consumers are now used to white eggs.
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If you have a large enough flock to supply a supermarket, you damn sure know what your cost to produce is. Egg farmers, like most farmers, make a low profit margin and miscalculating inputs like cost of feed, etc. make you bankrupt in short order.
White leghorns are bred to lay over meat so you end up getting well over 300 plus eggs per year from a prime pullet until the first molt. Most chickens laying brown eggs don't come near that production.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
Right, I'm not trying to pay my own salary, just have eggs for myself. I knew leghorns were the most common production egg layers and that average is more than probably all the birds I have. I'd be a bit surprised if no one could get a brown layer breed (or hybrid) to a similar level but, who would bother since most consumers are now used to white eggs.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (ULPxl)
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I bet you that behind closed doors, Trump had to capitulate to the Endless War enthusiasts to get his B³ passed.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM (kHd4y)
I would not like to be the person or group that forced Trump into a corner and made him comply. I suspect that is a good way to find out just how twisty that old man is.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 06:56 PM (kHd4y)
I would not like to be the person or group that forced Trump into a corner and made him comply. I suspect that is a good way to find out just how twisty that old man is.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (D7oie)
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Or maybe I'm confusing a special counsel with a special prosecutor. Jack Smith was bringing charges and therefore required confirmation as a prosecutor (?); a special counsel just produces a report like Mueller or Durham, but Durham was already a confirmed prosecutor who had authority to file charges.
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 07:33 PM (8l8nW)
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>>> 216 whig, I can taste the difference between the eggs. Nutritionally, there may be no difference but this is my egg hill to die on!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:26 PM (HFcKg)
How many eggs do you use a week?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:26 PM (HFcKg)
How many eggs do you use a week?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 07:34 PM (ULPxl)
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Trolling and getting banned for it becomes less appealing if you keep losing bucks over it.
FWIW
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 06:59 PM (ctrM5)
That reminds, me, I have to hit the tip . . . Jar, I guess, again.
FWIW
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 06:59 PM (ctrM5)
That reminds, me, I have to hit the tip . . . Jar, I guess, again.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (D7oie)
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>>Right, but didn't we establish that a special counsel must be confirmed by the Senate or the case is invalid? The same people who opposed Martin as DC US-Attorney would have to flip to support him as a special counsel to dig into something they favored, which was the destruction of Trump.
Yes, it was established. And that's why I said I think the situation of a special counsel to investigate a specific issue might have a different outcome with than a more broadly powerful US Attorney. Particularly if evidence to back up the conspiracy charge is presented.
If you read Solomon's articles there were at least two perhaps crucial issues that were hidden from us and much of Congress. One was the classified annex in Durham's report and the other is the classifed annex to the Hillary email report. Trump needs to declassify both.
But we'll see.
Yes, it was established. And that's why I said I think the situation of a special counsel to investigate a specific issue might have a different outcome with than a more broadly powerful US Attorney. Particularly if evidence to back up the conspiracy charge is presented.
If you read Solomon's articles there were at least two perhaps crucial issues that were hidden from us and much of Congress. One was the classified annex in Durham's report and the other is the classifed annex to the Hillary email report. Trump needs to declassify both.
But we'll see.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (viF8m)
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225 White leghorns are bred to lay over meat so you end up getting well over 300 plus eggs per year from a prime pullet until the first molt. Most chickens laying brown eggs don't come near that production.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
So just stain the white eggs in stale coffee.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM
That is a pretty good plan.
You could probably buy eggs at Walmart, stain them in coffee, and re-sell them to Whole Foods and make a tidy profit above your labor costs.
If you are a friend and contributor to Gavin Newsome, you could use illegal immigrant child-slave labor and REALLY make a profit!
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
So just stain the white eggs in stale coffee.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM
That is a pretty good plan.
You could probably buy eggs at Walmart, stain them in coffee, and re-sell them to Whole Foods and make a tidy profit above your labor costs.
If you are a friend and contributor to Gavin Newsome, you could use illegal immigrant child-slave labor and REALLY make a profit!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 07:35 PM (HlyYF)
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Also, the brown (pasture-raised) eggs are superior in taste and yield. I find that I can get my serving from one brown egg (Vital Farms) versus two white ones, and that offsets the higher cost.
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (8l8nW)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (viF8m)
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I immediately imagined what my old Sgt. Major would have to say to a reponsible troop. Flaying would be kinder.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L)
in 2013 I remember that there was an article that the Paraguayan navy had done a review on an M4 service rifle that went missing from one of their river boats. The conclusion was that "it must have fallen overboard"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L)
in 2013 I remember that there was an article that the Paraguayan navy had done a review on an M4 service rifle that went missing from one of their river boats. The conclusion was that "it must have fallen overboard"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 07:37 PM (D7oie)
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228 Not condoning the invasion by russia but I can see why putin did it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (e5NfL)
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Because he could and was told by Biden that he could. Putin's problem now is that he didn't know when to stop. There was a point early on when he had the territory he supposedly wanted that he could have kept with little negotiating, I suspect that's what he promised Biden's people but being a megalomaniac it got away from him and here we are.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM
What despotic dictator doesn't like a quick and easy military victory that adds both land and treasure?
Instead, Putin got a long, costly, and deadly slog. He still has the tools to "win", but I am kind of reminded of the dog that loved to chase cars, but then had no idea what to do when he finally caught one.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (e5NfL)
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Because he could and was told by Biden that he could. Putin's problem now is that he didn't know when to stop. There was a point early on when he had the territory he supposedly wanted that he could have kept with little negotiating, I suspect that's what he promised Biden's people but being a megalomaniac it got away from him and here we are.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM
What despotic dictator doesn't like a quick and easy military victory that adds both land and treasure?
Instead, Putin got a long, costly, and deadly slog. He still has the tools to "win", but I am kind of reminded of the dog that loved to chase cars, but then had no idea what to do when he finally caught one.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (HlyYF)
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i would not be surprised if Matt Gatz phone rang sometime in the next few weeks...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (bA75n)
If he gets the call we will be able to tell by the odd way he sits at the desk while doing his show . . .
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 07:05 PM (bA75n)
If he gets the call we will be able to tell by the odd way he sits at the desk while doing his show . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (D7oie)
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I don’t care about the Epstein files any more. They Probably are rewritten by now. Let’s do tariffs and layoffs now. After that we can work on world peace.
Posted by: High tech at July 14, 2025 07:40 PM (37cEZ)
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>> Yes, it was established. And that's why I said I think the situation of a special counsel to investigate a specific issue might have a different outcome with than a more broadly powerful US Attorney. Particularly if evidence to back up the conspiracy charge is presented.
at 240, I think I'm confusing a special prosecutor with special counsel. To bring charges you need to be confirmed (Jack Smith wasn't); to just write a report (a counsel) you don't. Gaetz or Martin could be special counsels to investigate without needing to be confirmed (I think). Then it's up to the AG to decide whether to prosecute. But Bondi may lose their report on her desk.
at 240, I think I'm confusing a special prosecutor with special counsel. To bring charges you need to be confirmed (Jack Smith wasn't); to just write a report (a counsel) you don't. Gaetz or Martin could be special counsels to investigate without needing to be confirmed (I think). Then it's up to the AG to decide whether to prosecute. But Bondi may lose their report on her desk.
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 07:40 PM (8l8nW)
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We need a special council with subpoena power. I'd like to recommend Trey Gowdy for the role.
Posted by: Jim Jordan at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (/U5Yz)
Rooster Gowdy will come on the scene pre-loaded with a pile of Jim Jordan sternly worded letters.
Fundraising kabuki then , fundraising kabuki now, fundraising RINO kabuki Forever!
Posted by: Jim Jordan at July 14, 2025 06:50 PM (/U5Yz)
Rooster Gowdy will come on the scene pre-loaded with a pile of Jim Jordan sternly worded letters.
Fundraising kabuki then , fundraising kabuki now, fundraising RINO kabuki Forever!
Posted by: Voter theater. at July 14, 2025 07:41 PM (FCPbW)
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Livestock care is hard work 24/7 365 days per year.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:21 PM (ctrM5)
_-_-_
Is you is, or is you ain't a farmer....
My daughters call their brother a "chicken tender" because that's his job here.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 07:21 PM (ctrM5)
_-_-_
Is you is, or is you ain't a farmer....
My daughters call their brother a "chicken tender" because that's his job here.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 07:44 PM (vd6bO)
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I had small part of a fence replaced. Maybe 25 feet long, 6 ft high. 2 guys, day and a half of work. $4k including materials which was basically some wood. Didn’t include painting or staining.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:15 PM (ImXfC)
Dude, if I had only known I would have loaned you a post hole digger, a shovel and a wheelbarrow to mix your bags of quickcrete in.
A true man could finish that in two afternoons including the stain.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 07:15 PM (ImXfC)
Dude, if I had only known I would have loaned you a post hole digger, a shovel and a wheelbarrow to mix your bags of quickcrete in.
A true man could finish that in two afternoons including the stain.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 07:46 PM (D7oie)
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Never mind the eggs. Did Hillary actually do anything criminal in ordering up that fake dossier and sharing it with Obama? I thought her crime was pretty much records destruction (and then lying about it).
Never mind the eggs. Did Hillary actually do anything criminal in ordering up that fake dossier and sharing it with Obama? I thought her crime was pretty much records destruction (and then lying about it).
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 07:49 PM (xp7+v)
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So just stain the white eggs in stale coffee.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (vegAM)
There is a recipe for cracking the shells of hard boiled eggs and leaving them to steep in a combination of tea, ginger, anise, salt and a few other spices until the whites are stained.
We always called them "tea eggs" though I am sure they have a clever name as well.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 07:29 PM (vegAM)
There is a recipe for cracking the shells of hard boiled eggs and leaving them to steep in a combination of tea, ginger, anise, salt and a few other spices until the whites are stained.
We always called them "tea eggs" though I am sure they have a clever name as well.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 07:55 PM (D7oie)
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in 2013 I remember that there was an article that the Paraguayan navy had done a review on an M4 service rifle that went missing from one of their river boats. The conclusion was that "it must have fallen overboard"
Posted by: Kindltot
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Aliens
in 2013 I remember that there was an article that the Paraguayan navy had done a review on an M4 service rifle that went missing from one of their river boats. The conclusion was that "it must have fallen overboard"
Posted by: Kindltot
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Aliens
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 08:02 PM (XeU6L)
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We need a special council with subpoena power. I'd like to recommend Trey Gowdy for the role
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I think you mean consol. Gowdy is a blowhard.
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I think you mean consol. Gowdy is a blowhard.
Posted by: Jerry Carroll at July 14, 2025 08:22 PM (RRQTN)
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Axios
@axios
Attorney General Pam Bondi fired the ethics director at the Department of Justice
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
Because he allowed Jack Smith to accept hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts from law firms with cases before DOJ.
@axios
Attorney General Pam Bondi fired the ethics director at the Department of Justice
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
Because he allowed Jack Smith to accept hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts from law firms with cases before DOJ.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 09:49 PM (GITLP)
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Mental acuity
isn't the when you shit down your leg, know it, and just continue as if nothing happened and everything will be cleaned up shortly?
isn't the when you shit down your leg, know it, and just continue as if nothing happened and everything will be cleaned up shortly?Posted by: JOE at July 14, 2025 11:51 PM (5yGIt)
Trump Tries to Quell MAGA Frustration Over Jeffrey Epstein Files
A lot of leftwingers are enjoying this. I saw longtime Nothing-to-See-Here Fake Reporter Jake Tapper doing a sudden 180 and demanding a full and vigorous investigation into the Epstein files.
But the left is fishing in already-troubled waters, as MAGA influencers -- political entrepreneurs, mostly -- like Laura Loomer, Steven Bannon, and Tucker Carlson continue stoking suspicions and making insinuations. Politico:
ABC "News" was never interested in the Epstein case... until now.
President Donald Trump faces a fast-metastasizing MAGA rebellion amid fallout over his administration's handling of the files from the criminal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. And some of his closest allies are cautioning the situation for the president will get worse before it gets better -- even as it threatens to derail his megabill victory lap and continues to divide parts of his administration and, more broadly, his supporters. Trump has tried twice in as many days to tamp down his base's anger, posting to Truth Social Saturday that he didn't "like what's happening" among his own supporters. He also threw his support behind Attorney General Pam Bondi, who has taken the brunt of much of the right's ire over the Epstein files. Several news organizations have also reported that Bondi clashed with Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino over the files. After disembarking Air Force One Sunday at Joint Base Andrews, Trump faced a question about Bongino, who skipped work Friday. Trump insisted that he's "a very good guy. ... He sounded terrific, actually. No, I think he's in good shape." Mike Davis, the MAGA legal brawler and occasional Oval Office visitor, has taken up defending Trump's DOJ, said in an interview that "the Trump Justice Department wanted to be fully transparent, but can't." He added: "This is a case of no good deed going unpunished." Davis argues DOJ can't release more, including that there is grand jury material involved, court records under seal, child pornography involved, the need to protect victims of "heinous crimes," and "unsubstantiated, bogus claims, like we saw during the Kavanaugh proceedings, where you had double and even triple hearsay." ... The split over Epstein represents one of the biggest rifts within Trump's supporters since the president took office for his second term. On one side are MAGA supporters who push claims that Epstein was murdered in his jail cell and that the disgraced financier had kept a list of high-profile clients. But Trump's DOJ and FBI have concluded that there's no evidence for either. On Monday morning, the conservative influencer Benny Johnson outlined a four-pronged approach for Trump to fix what he called "the Epstein memo crisis," including calling for a press conference and bringing in former President Bill Clinton for "questioning." Laura Loomer, the MAGA activist who is influential in Trump's inner circle and visits everyone from Vice President JD Vance to Trump himself, isn't convinced that the president has sufficiently quelled MAGA's frustrations. "I don't think that just putting out a Truth Social post is going to make this issue go away. It's kind of had a Streisand effect, actually, where people are focusing on this topic a lot more than they were before he posted a Truth Social," Loomer told POLITICO. "I think that it would be wise for the White House to develop some type of a strategy in addressing the base's concerns, so that we can mitigate any fallout or damage done to the Trump administration. Loomer is also calling for a special counsel appointed to do an independent investigation of the handling of the Epstein files so that people can feel like this issue is being investigated, and perhaps take it out of [Bondi's] hands, because I don't think that she has been transparent or done a good job handling this issue."
Gislaine Maxwell says she's willing to testify about Epstein's ring.
Former New Jersey GOP Gov. Chris Christie says President Trump has "benefited" from and "encouraged" conspiracy theories about Jeffrey Epstein and therefore bears responsibility for the fallout about the now-closed Justice Department probe into the deceased financier and convicted sex-offender. Trump vowed during his winning 2024 to look into Epstein's death while in jail, now ruled a suicide, and whether he indeed has an incriminating "client list," which the Trump administration says, in fact, does not exist. Trump MAGA base feels misled and has the largely heaped the criticsm on Attorney General Pam Bondi. "Well, look, what Donald Trump is learning is when you start the fire, sometimes you can't put it out," Christie, a 2016 GOP presidential candidate and on-again-off-again Trump supporter, told ABC News on Sunday. "Now, he started this Epstein fire during the campaign and prior to that by alleging that this was all some, you know, Democratic plot, that he was perhaps murdered by former Democratic officeholders, that there were a lot of Democrats who had been down to Jeffrey Epstein's island and all the rest. "He used that to fire his own base, and he was going to get to the bottom of it, and he was going to release it because he's in -- absolutely in favor of transparency," Christie continued. "Well, now you get into the job and you realize -- you know, 'maybe I don't want to do that.'" Christie said that Bondi is doing what Trump wants her to. "And let's be clear about this: Pam Bondi -- there's no chance, in my opinion, that Pam Bondi made this decision on her own. No chance. She was instructed by the White House that we're not releasing this stuff. And that's why he's defending her," Christie said. Christie also pushed back on the suggestion that it was mostly the people around Trump who were encouraging the conspiracy theories about Epstein. "We cannot let the president off that easily. He benefited directly from it. He fueled it. He encouraged it. And he certainly didn't stop it," Christie said.
Ghislaine Maxwell, the former girlfriend and madame to the late Jeffrey Epstein, is willing to testify before Congress about the Epstein Files, the Daily Mail reported Monday, citing "sources." "Despite the rumors, Ghislaine was never offered any kind of plea deal. She would be more than happy to sit before Congress and tell her story," a source told the outlet. "She remains the only person to be jailed in connection to Epstein and she would welcome the chance to tell the American public the truth." Maxwell is currently serving a 20-year prison sentence for sex-trafficking and array of other charges in connection with her procurement of minors for Epstein's pleasure. She has further cast doubt on the official narrative surrounding Epstein's death, asserting that he was murdered and did not kill himself.I believe she continues insisting that she did nothing wrong. So I'm not sure how candid her testimony would be.
Trump posted on Truth Social, making the claim -- which cannot be supported -- that the whole Epstein scandal was created by the Clintons and Deep State operatives as some kind of op against him.
Here's Jake Tapper, suddenly on the Jeffrey Epstein beat ten years too late, just like he was late on Joe Biden's senility:
CNN's Jake Tapper is now calling for the Trump administration to release the Epstein documents:
— Derrick Evans (@DerrickEvans4WV) July 9, 2025
"This isn‘t going to go away. The public, you‘re being played for fools here." pic.twitter.com/xyN9GKBxkg
Lawyer Alan Dershowitz says that he "knows the names" on the Epstein list and that the Epstein files are being "suppressed" to protect people. He says he’s bound to confidentiality and can’t share the names but that files and names DO exist. Wow.pic.twitter.com/q8CpyMLeFb
— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) July 10, 2025
Conservative media personality Tucker Carlson on Monday challenged former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett to sit for an interview over Jeffrey Epstein and his ties to the Israeli government after the former world leader denied such allegations. Carlson, over the weekend, explicitly expressed the belief that Epstein was likely working for Israeli intelligence, citing the testimony of former Trump Cabinet member Alex Acosta saying he was an intelligence asset and Ghislaine Maxwell's known links to the Mossad. Bennett, in an apparent response, condemned Carlson on X, asserting that he was lying. "As a former Israeli Prime Minister, with the Mossad having reported directly to me, I say to you with 100% certainty: The accusation that Jeffrey Epstein somehow worked for Israel or the Mossad running a blackmail ring is categorically and totally false," he said.Despite Tucker Carlson's eagerness to blame everything on the Jews, the Mossad theory can't be outright dismissed -- especially when no other plausible alternative explanation is being offered. As I've said, I trust Trump on this issue. Mind you, that's not to say I believe everything that he says. I certainly don't believe that this whole controversy was stoked by Hillary and Bill Clinton and the Deep State to damage Trump. But I trust his overall judgment -- if he thinks this is a sleeping dog best let lie, I do think he's got good reasons for thinking that. I'm not at all satisfied with that -- but I am considering that we are on the verge of a violent civil war so I'm willing to let lesser agenda items slide for the purposes of remaining unified in the face of insurrectionary leftwing violence. Like I said, I don't know what to think. I did -- I do -- believe that Epstein had underaged girls at his Pedo Island as an inducement for the Great and Good to come to his island, and that he surely exploited these compromised people for his benefit. Did it rise to the level of actual blackmail? Here's the thing: I know a little about blackmail and it's a hard case to bring. Blackmailers know that what makes it a crime is directly linking their threat to the demand they're making of you, so they never actually put it like that. They will bring up a "favor" they want from you and will say "You know I'm being a good friend to you by not telling anyone what I know," but they avoid saying "Do this favor or I'll reveal what I know." Blackmail is a tricky crime. It's not illegal to demand $10,000 from someone, particularly when you can invent some spurious grounds for claiming that it's a "debt" that's owed to you. It's also not illegal to tell someone that you intend to go public with the dirty information you know about them. "Journalists" do this every day. What is illegal is to link the demand to the threat. And that's the only thing that's illegal, the blackmailer making the connection between the two things explicit. Cops wire blackmail victims to get the blackmailer to make the linkage between demand and threat explicitly on audiotape, and blackmailers continue refusing to make the blackmail threat explicit. Again, I know. I've seen it. Blackmailers are the lowest of the low, but they do have the minimum necessary intelligence to not say the one thing that makes their demand of a "favor" an actual felony. So in a legalistic way, I can imagine that Bondi is halfway truthful in saying there is "no evidence of blackmail." No chargeable evidence, that is. Nothing she can bring to a court. I don't know what happens here. I don't think Trump's stance is politically tenable and I think he'll have to offer something more than what's he's offering now. It will be interesting to watch these people who make their money playing the Quien Es Mas MAGA? game try to simultaneously insinuate that Trump is a traitor while continuing to grift money as Ultimate MAGA Warriors. Lara Trump now says that the files will be revealed -- just not yet.
🚨EXCLUSIVE: Lara Trump says the Trump administration Will Release more Epstein Evidence and Will Have More Transparency. She says that President Trump Hears the Base on this Issue and knows how "Important" it is and Trump will "set things right."
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) July 14, 2025
"There needs to be more… pic.twitter.com/iTtzUmN90H
I don't know if people will be satisfied with more promises about what might happen in the future.
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Pam Bondi's days are numbers. The drums of Mordor are getting louder.
Pam Bondi's days are numbers. The drums of Mordor are getting louder.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (IifOV)
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Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 14, 2025 05:34 PM (GYt5+)
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Pam Bondi started this by making big public promises at the outset, then walking away from them. If she'd have kept her mouth shut from the beginning, there wouldn't be such an outcry now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 05:34 PM (uWKK8)
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I always thought Epstein was just boob bait. I didn’t care, I never thought all roads lead through Epstein. He was just a sideshow typical deep state type.
But Trump has badly bungled this.
Just release everything like you promised. I can’t imagine the blowback from releasing it being more than the blowback from hiding it.
The only theory that really makes sense is that Epstein was Mossad and Trump is afraid it will cause anti- Israel sentiment.
But Trump has badly bungled this.
Just release everything like you promised. I can’t imagine the blowback from releasing it being more than the blowback from hiding it.
The only theory that really makes sense is that Epstein was Mossad and Trump is afraid it will cause anti- Israel sentiment.
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 05:34 PM (g0oCT)
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I don't really think Bondi is covering up for anyone specifically; more like she's an incompetent glory hound who was way overpromoted.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 05:35 PM (uWKK8)
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Pam Bondi's days are numbers. The drums of Mordor are getting louder.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (IifOV)
Prime? Irrational? Integers?
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (IifOV)
Prime? Irrational? Integers?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 05:36 PM (wVcYX)
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Is this thing on?
Posted by: Mr. Microphone at July 14, 2025 05:36 PM (G5+As)
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I don't think Trump is stupid, and I do think he understands the concept of the Streisand Effect whether or not he knows it by that name.
No idea where this all will go...
No idea where this all will go...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:36 PM (ULPxl)
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Epstein Who?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 05:37 PM (/lPRQ)
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I think this is a very large unforced error. But memory-holing all other accomplishments to date and pulling support based on it is stupid.
Posted by: In a nutshell at July 14, 2025 05:37 PM (TbWk/)
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Please let this all be some clever set-up of dems.
Please let this all be some clever set-up of dems.
Posted by: Auspex at July 14, 2025 05:37 PM (Y8DZL)
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Despite Tucker Carlson's eagerness to blame everything on the Jews, the Mossad theory can't be outright dismissed -- especially when no other plausible alternative explanation is being offered.
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I can think of few !
1) He is still alive
2) Alien abduction
3) MI6 Asset and the rest of english speaking spy agencies
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I can think of few !
1) He is still alive
2) Alien abduction
3) MI6 Asset and the rest of english speaking spy agencies
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:37 PM (g47mK)
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Have any of you listened to the Ryan Dawson discussion of Epstein?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:38 PM (vd6bO)
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I do think he brought up an interesting point: Trump claims that the Democrats doctored the files, adding in names and people they don't like and making them fraudulent and untrustworthy. THAT I can buy as being perfectly believable. But that's what you open with, you don't bury it in a 9000 word essay after 7 months in office.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:38 PM (dfIr7)
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We are getting gaslit and op-ed by the left. Don’t fall for it. Yes, there are disagreements in MAGA over Epstein and what to do about it. There are disagreements in MAGA over fucking everything. That’s how political parties with a big tent work. Some of you MAGA poseurs don’t shake your manhattans! But the idea that anyone gives enough of a shit about some disgraced whoremonger to risk the almost endless winning is a leftwing op. Don’t fall for it.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (/oOuL)
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>>> 13 Have any of you listened to the Ryan Dawson discussion of Epstein?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:38 PM (vd6bO)
I haven't heard of Ryan Dawson. What is he saying?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:38 PM (vd6bO)
I haven't heard of Ryan Dawson. What is he saying?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (ULPxl)
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I think I agree with your nuanced analysis of the situation here, ace.
And count me on the side of "this is fucked up that Trump is pulling this shit on us. It's not even a believable or GOOD lie."
And count me on the side of "this is fucked up that Trump is pulling this shit on us. It's not even a believable or GOOD lie."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (uCjyK)
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We really cannot go on saying, "well, there is no satisfactory explanation..so it has to be the MOSSAD !"
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (g47mK)
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The Left is jumping in because they want the $27B trade surplus story and the BBB passage narratives suppressed.
"Epstein" matters to content creators, it means more eyeballs for their channels and podcasts. "Epstein" doesn't put more money in taxpayers' wallets.
"Epstein" matters to content creators, it means more eyeballs for their channels and podcasts. "Epstein" doesn't put more money in taxpayers' wallets.
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (rj6Yv)
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Only Epstein I know-Juan-died in 2012, as did Horshack.
Posted by: TV Guide at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (G5+As)
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People wouldn't be up in arms about this Epstein List stuff if politicians regularly were prosecuted for illegal sexual activity that we all know happens. So you could always do that instead.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 05:40 PM (B9Prs)
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I had a teacher/mentor in the upper years of high school. Everyone did; it was a system there. They were called "tutors" and you generally met as a group.
This guy also thought blackmail should rate a high punishment, like actual hanging high. I didn't know why at the time; this guy had never done anything wrong as far as I know, especially not with kids.
But I'm guessing some of the fellow teachers had been blackmailed, not by kids but by random homos they might have met maybe in some other town. Which is the shit that destroys lives.
This guy also thought blackmail should rate a high punishment, like actual hanging high. I didn't know why at the time; this guy had never done anything wrong as far as I know, especially not with kids.
But I'm guessing some of the fellow teachers had been blackmailed, not by kids but by random homos they might have met maybe in some other town. Which is the shit that destroys lives.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 05:41 PM (gKWVE)
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People wouldn't be up in arms about this Epstein List stuff if politicians regularly were prosecuted for illegal sexual activity that we all know happens. So you could always do that instead.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 05:40 PM (B9Prs)
Like the House and Senate fund for covering it up?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 05:40 PM (B9Prs)
Like the House and Senate fund for covering it up?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:41 PM (8avO+)
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Prime? Irrational? Integers?
Posted by: Count de Monet
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Bondi goes when Trump decides she goes and I doubt that will be anytime soon.
Basically, he is loyal to his people and only fires them for disloyalty.
Posted by: Count de Monet
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Bondi goes when Trump decides she goes and I doubt that will be anytime soon.
Basically, he is loyal to his people and only fires them for disloyalty.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (ctrM5)
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14 I do think he brought up an interesting point: Trump claims that the Democrats doctored the files, adding in names and people they don't like and making them fraudulent and untrustworthy. THAT I can buy as being perfectly believable. But that's what you open with, you don't bury it in a 9000 word essay after 7 months in office.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:38 PM (dfIr7)
Then why wouldn't you say that? "Our evidence indicates these files were tampered with somewhere along the line, and the FBI is working diligently to discover who tampered with them, whether inside the government or not"
They're definitively saying "there is no list" "there was no blackmail" and "there are no videos", despite all of them previously (and all common sense) saying none of that is true.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:38 PM (dfIr7)
Then why wouldn't you say that? "Our evidence indicates these files were tampered with somewhere along the line, and the FBI is working diligently to discover who tampered with them, whether inside the government or not"
They're definitively saying "there is no list" "there was no blackmail" and "there are no videos", despite all of them previously (and all common sense) saying none of that is true.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (uCjyK)
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Hi ace!
We had an hours long power outage this afternoon. It sucked.
I made stuffed pork chops for supper.
The girl spawn lost her job due to budget deficits. She will be traveling with friends for a long weekend trip this Friday thru Monday. Prayers for their safety are welcome.
Just wanted to say hello. But the Epstein thing is of no interest to me so I shall skate away.
TTFN
We had an hours long power outage this afternoon. It sucked.
I made stuffed pork chops for supper.
The girl spawn lost her job due to budget deficits. She will be traveling with friends for a long weekend trip this Friday thru Monday. Prayers for their safety are welcome.
Just wanted to say hello. But the Epstein thing is of no interest to me so I shall skate away.
TTFN
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (2J/Lj)
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The huge dog which did not bark: No one in Congress is spinning up an investigation over the Epstein files. You know half the GOPe and all Democrats hate President Trump.
If they thought Epstein would help them get rid of President Trump, they'd have started an "investigation" Jan 21st.
If they thought Epstein would help them get rid of President Trump, they'd have started an "investigation" Jan 21st.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (tT6L1)
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I do not care how many CIA agents are compromised by the truth. I don't care if Epstein was Mossad. That either of these agencies would be involved in Epstein's pedo ring is disgraceful, and any official involved in running that pile of crap needs to be run out of office on a rail.
I want to know if the John Roberts on the flight list was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. I want every Pedo who was videoed molesting children named and tried in a court room outside of DC - which the DOJ absolutely can do.
I want to know if the John Roberts on the flight list was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. I want every Pedo who was videoed molesting children named and tried in a court room outside of DC - which the DOJ absolutely can do.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (Da7Vv)
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (eYAt4)
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We really cannot go on saying, "well, there is no satisfactory explanation..so it has to be the MOSSAD !"
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (g47mK)
This doesn't explain why our spies wouldn't put a bullet in him though.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (g47mK)
This doesn't explain why our spies wouldn't put a bullet in him though.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:43 PM (8avO+)
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I expected the Spanish Inquisition.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 05:43 PM (63Dwl)
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Trump has really fumbled the handling of this, thinking people didn't care that much about the story. Its just given the left so much ammunition. THey are out there yelling "TRUMP IS IN THE FILES SO HE'S HIDING IT!" and promising they totes will release everything if you only put them back in office.
Yes the answers to that is super easy, but its still out there and lo-fo voters can be swayed with that.
Yes the answers to that is super easy, but its still out there and lo-fo voters can be swayed with that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:44 PM (dfIr7)
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I haven't heard of Ryan Dawson. What is he saying?
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Trying to find a good link, because the one I saw seems to have disappeared, but he was vigorously advocating that prosecutions are happening and that here is no "Epstein List" per se, but he has through investigative journalism compiled his own. I will keep looking for that link and post it here if I find it.
I had never heard of him when I saw the video, so I was curious to see what the Horde knew of or about him or his analysis.
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Trying to find a good link, because the one I saw seems to have disappeared, but he was vigorously advocating that prosecutions are happening and that here is no "Epstein List" per se, but he has through investigative journalism compiled his own. I will keep looking for that link and post it here if I find it.
I had never heard of him when I saw the video, so I was curious to see what the Horde knew of or about him or his analysis.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:44 PM (vd6bO)
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18 We really cannot go on saying, "well, there is no satisfactory explanation..so it has to be the MOSSAD !"
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (g47mK)
And we can't ignore the obvious fact that people around Epstein all had connections to Mossad and the state of Israel.
Ghislaine Maxwells father, for example.
I tend to agree that this wasn't a Mossad-lead operation. There's no way the CIA would not have been involved here, especially knowing what Acosta said.
But it's perfectly reasonable to suspect Mossad (and MI-6) were involved as well.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:39 PM (g47mK)
And we can't ignore the obvious fact that people around Epstein all had connections to Mossad and the state of Israel.
Ghislaine Maxwells father, for example.
I tend to agree that this wasn't a Mossad-lead operation. There's no way the CIA would not have been involved here, especially knowing what Acosta said.
But it's perfectly reasonable to suspect Mossad (and MI-6) were involved as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:44 PM (uCjyK)
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everything that can be released has been released
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What *can't* be released? And why?
everything that can be released has been released
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What *can't* be released? And why?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 05:44 PM (xp7+v)
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Just my opinion, but I think enacting the MAGA agenda is a lot more important than the Epstein list.
Posted by: Butch at July 14, 2025 05:44 PM (mdU1r)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 05:44 PM (Kq8pV)
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This doesn't explain why our spies wouldn't put a bullet in him though.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:43 PM (8avO+)
That is now how spying business works !
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:43 PM (8avO+)
That is now how spying business works !
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:45 PM (g47mK)
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27 The huge dog which did not bark: No one in Congress is spinning up an investigation over the Epstein files. You know half the GOPe and all Democrats hate President Trump.
If they thought Epstein would help them get rid of President Trump, they'd have started an "investigation" Jan 21st.
Posted by: blake
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True. Same for the last four years under Biden or before. Hell, a majority of liberals still believe the stupid Russia Russia conspiracy got Trump elected in 2016 despite being extensively debunked.
This the effect of Government endlessly lying to us routinely in large and small matters. We are now a low trust society.
If they thought Epstein would help them get rid of President Trump, they'd have started an "investigation" Jan 21st.
Posted by: blake
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True. Same for the last four years under Biden or before. Hell, a majority of liberals still believe the stupid Russia Russia conspiracy got Trump elected in 2016 despite being extensively debunked.
This the effect of Government endlessly lying to us routinely in large and small matters. We are now a low trust society.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 05:45 PM (ctrM5)
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>>>What *can't* be released? And why?
they say that grand jury testimony "can't " be released
also victim statements where the victim doesn't want to be identified. I think this one can be gotten around, though, just by saying "VICTIM A," etc.
they say that grand jury testimony "can't " be released
also victim statements where the victim doesn't want to be identified. I think this one can be gotten around, though, just by saying "VICTIM A," etc.
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 05:46 PM (KRtlO)
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I do wish President Trump would be more like VP Vance and give one sentence snark replies on X or whatever social media I don't have. Whatever!
I think this is going to backfire fabulously for Tucker, Loomer and that nasty, greasy Bannon...whom I have never liked. I bet he has fungus toenails,general BO, halitosis and reeks of whatever is on his hair (which, I realize, is not the point). He has done nothing but try to follow the late, great Andrew Brietbart. I equate him with the screeching Alex Jone guy. I put no one (but Ace) on a pedestal.
With Jake Tappy and others demanding the list, I think President Trump will eventually give them unredacted stuff that may horrify the masses. Then reply, sighing, "Well, you asked for this!"
I do agree with his long and wordy reply. He is fighting for much more than the Epstein deal. I voted mostly for DEPORTATIONS. Look, just look, at what he's done since late January.
And, please, stop looking at hysteria by social media clowns who simply want clicks. I don't know, but is it clicks for $ for them? Sort of GoFundMe?
I think this is going to backfire fabulously for Tucker, Loomer and that nasty, greasy Bannon...whom I have never liked. I bet he has fungus toenails,general BO, halitosis and reeks of whatever is on his hair (which, I realize, is not the point). He has done nothing but try to follow the late, great Andrew Brietbart. I equate him with the screeching Alex Jone guy. I put no one (but Ace) on a pedestal.
With Jake Tappy and others demanding the list, I think President Trump will eventually give them unredacted stuff that may horrify the masses. Then reply, sighing, "Well, you asked for this!"
I do agree with his long and wordy reply. He is fighting for much more than the Epstein deal. I voted mostly for DEPORTATIONS. Look, just look, at what he's done since late January.
And, please, stop looking at hysteria by social media clowns who simply want clicks. I don't know, but is it clicks for $ for them? Sort of GoFundMe?
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 05:46 PM (6PCLE)
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21 People wouldn't be up in arms about this Epstein List stuff if politicians regularly were prosecuted for illegal sexual activity that we all know happens.
No idea what the fuck you are talking about, ese.
Where all my li'l bitchez be at?
No idea what the fuck you are talking about, ese.
Where all my li'l bitchez be at?
Posted by: Bob Menendez at July 14, 2025 05:46 PM (gKWVE)
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They're definitively saying "there is no list" "there was no blackmail" and "there are no videos", despite all of them previously (and all common sense) saying none of that is true.
Exactly, he's bungled this so badly, and it feels less like Trump's confidence and optimism and more scrambling to figure a way to make it go away.
My personal theory is that in order to get his bill passed, he had to make a series of deals and this is one of those deals being carried out.
Exactly, he's bungled this so badly, and it feels less like Trump's confidence and optimism and more scrambling to figure a way to make it go away.
My personal theory is that in order to get his bill passed, he had to make a series of deals and this is one of those deals being carried out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:46 PM (dfIr7)
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But he's not going to be able to reverse people's decades-old suspicions about Jeffrey Epstein just by posting "These aren't the files you're looking for." It's a bridge too far.
Yeah, I'm not persuaded by the Johnny Come Latelys on the left; they're a bunch of unprincipled opportunists. I don't care what they say.
But Trump isn't going to talk me out of the belief that Epstein was a servant of the Deep State and that this is a cover up. Because it is.
It was known by anyone reasonable more than a decade ago that Epstein was an IC asset when he got a sweetheart deal on a 50+ page indictment and the prosecutor said he was told to let him go.
Yeah, I'm not persuaded by the Johnny Come Latelys on the left; they're a bunch of unprincipled opportunists. I don't care what they say.
But Trump isn't going to talk me out of the belief that Epstein was a servant of the Deep State and that this is a cover up. Because it is.
It was known by anyone reasonable more than a decade ago that Epstein was an IC asset when he got a sweetheart deal on a 50+ page indictment and the prosecutor said he was told to let him go.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 05:46 PM (TdYBy)
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28 I do not care how many CIA agents are compromised by the truth. I don't care if Epstein was Mossad. That either of these agencies would be involved in Epstein's pedo ring is disgraceful, and any official involved in running that pile of crap needs to be run out of office on a rail.
I want to know if the John Roberts on the flight list was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. I want every Pedo who was videoed molesting children named and tried in a court room outside of DC - which the DOJ absolutely can do.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (Da7Vv)
And I think those are all fair things for people in a representative republic to ask about, and to expect answers about.
Who in the US or abroad allowed this to happen and/or ordered it, and who were the people being compromised.
We don't need the child porn videos. We don't even need the whole backstory. We need to answers to two questions which our own CIA can very likely answer if they so desired.
I want to know if the John Roberts on the flight list was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. I want every Pedo who was videoed molesting children named and tried in a court room outside of DC - which the DOJ absolutely can do.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (Da7Vv)
And I think those are all fair things for people in a representative republic to ask about, and to expect answers about.
Who in the US or abroad allowed this to happen and/or ordered it, and who were the people being compromised.
We don't need the child porn videos. We don't even need the whole backstory. We need to answers to two questions which our own CIA can very likely answer if they so desired.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:46 PM (uCjyK)
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A whole bunch of senior people got way out over their skis on releasing the epstein stuff and are now having to walk it all back.
At this point everyone knows that there is something there and the government we voted for is hiding it from us.
I doubt this will end well.
At this point everyone knows that there is something there and the government we voted for is hiding it from us.
I doubt this will end well.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 05:46 PM (e5NfL)
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The Autopen debacle is a clear and present danger to our precious democracy and the authority of the US Constitution. You don't hear the Left mentioning that, do you> Clemencies signed and delivered at the whim of POTUS staff? What else was signed and delivered via staff use of the Autopen?
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (rj6Yv)
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Trump posted on Truth Social, making the claim -- which cannot be supported -- that the whole Epstein scandal was created by the Clintons and Deep State operatives as some kind of op against him.
Straight up. Epstein didn't screw all these girls himself. Bill Clinton didn't either.
Trump needs to shut the Hell up. But he can't. Because he can't. He's a big mouth Yankee fool.
Straight up. Epstein didn't screw all these girls himself. Bill Clinton didn't either.
Trump needs to shut the Hell up. But he can't. Because he can't. He's a big mouth Yankee fool.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (kOKqg)
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1) even if 100% is released, it'll never be enough to convict anyone.
a) see the Diddy prosecution; Kevin Spacey; the endless list of political and powerful sex scandals.
b) limitations defenses, in addition to spoliation; there's some huge custody and authenticity issues that can't be over-come. e.g., some of it would require Epstein to authenticate it.
2) of everyone demanding more--including those on the right--I still trust Trump more to do what's best.
3) This is the trolley car dilemma, and we have the luxury of arguing academically--Trump is at the switch and is having to make the choice.
4) pushing this almost certainly won't get justice for a single victim. But it is benefiting the left.
5) I'm amused at the fellow earlier protesting he wouldn't be able to look himself in the mirror if he let even a micrometer of this go. Fun god you got there, judging you on the sins of others, not your own.
a) see the Diddy prosecution; Kevin Spacey; the endless list of political and powerful sex scandals.
b) limitations defenses, in addition to spoliation; there's some huge custody and authenticity issues that can't be over-come. e.g., some of it would require Epstein to authenticate it.
2) of everyone demanding more--including those on the right--I still trust Trump more to do what's best.
3) This is the trolley car dilemma, and we have the luxury of arguing academically--Trump is at the switch and is having to make the choice.
4) pushing this almost certainly won't get justice for a single victim. But it is benefiting the left.
5) I'm amused at the fellow earlier protesting he wouldn't be able to look himself in the mirror if he let even a micrometer of this go. Fun god you got there, judging you on the sins of others, not your own.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (JThEY)
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Only Epstein I know-Juan-died in 2012, as did Horshack.
Posted by: TV Guide
Is that what that letter from his mother said?
Only Epstein I know-Juan-died in 2012, as did Horshack.
Posted by: TV Guide
Is that what that letter from his mother said?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (63Dwl)
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If we're not going to die on this hill, a hill filled with raped children, precisely which hills are we to die on?
Posted by: Any Sense of Humanity at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (0DnHq)
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"Just my opinion, but I think enacting the MAGA agenda is a lot more important than the Epstein list."
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Yes. But that requires political capital. And he's burning that capital with his base by handling this the way he is.
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Yes. But that requires political capital. And he's burning that capital with his base by handling this the way he is.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (eYAt4)
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Horseshack means the cows are dying.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 05:48 PM (NaR/G)
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Democrats had Epstein files for 8 (?) years! what did people expect would remain there ?! don't tell me , a big old list exposing major Democrat figures. right there, in black and white, and evinced of major Democrat figures partaking in whatever services Epstein's enterprise was offering. All right there!
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:49 PM (g47mK)
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If we're not going to die on this hill, a hill filled with raped children, precisely which hills are we to die on?
Posted by: Any Sense of Humanity at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (0DnHq)
Oh, well that's easy. Lower taxes, the general "We're winning because TRUMP".
You know - the same shit people here complain about when its Obama.
Posted by: Any Sense of Humanity at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (0DnHq)
Oh, well that's easy. Lower taxes, the general "We're winning because TRUMP".
You know - the same shit people here complain about when its Obama.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 05:49 PM (kOKqg)
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This does look like it was horribly bungled. However, everything in Trump version 2.0 has been well planned and thought out - Tariffs , deportations, Iran, etc. I’m not saying this is 3D chess, but I’m gonna wait a couple of days.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 05:49 PM (u73oe)
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Yes. But that requires political capital. And he's burning that capital with his base by handling this the way he is.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (eYAt4)
Are you tired of winning?
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 14, 2025 05:47 PM (eYAt4)
Are you tired of winning?
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 05:49 PM (rj6Yv)
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If there is anything left of the list it would only include Republicans.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 05:50 PM (NaR/G)
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I don't think Trump is stupid, and I do think he understands the concept of the Streisand Effect whether or not he knows it by that name.
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That he is, once again, as he has done many times before, stepped into a controversy to make himself the target.
Freeing up his people to do their jobs while the left can't help themselves and attack him.
He's Teflon Don, they're not.
And in a no time at all, the baying hounds of the left will be running after another car.
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That he is, once again, as he has done many times before, stepped into a controversy to make himself the target.
Freeing up his people to do their jobs while the left can't help themselves and attack him.
He's Teflon Don, they're not.
And in a no time at all, the baying hounds of the left will be running after another car.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:50 PM (JThEY)
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Why do I care about the Epstein list ?????
Does it put gas in my car or food on my table ????
Well, Biden is not on the list because there isn't enough Viagra in the US to help him.....
Does it put gas in my car or food on my table ????
Well, Biden is not on the list because there isn't enough Viagra in the US to help him.....
Posted by: Allotta Fagina at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (BltCC)
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I thought Throckmorton's post this morning might be the end of this.
I have no more thoughts re: Epstein issue. You guys figure it out.
I have no more thoughts re: Epstein issue. You guys figure it out.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (AOsQT)
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58 If there is anything left of the list it would only include Republicans.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 05:50 PM (NaR/G)
But even if that's true, wouldn't it be better for us to know which Republicans are being blackmailed by the Deep State through the CIA because they got caught in a honey trap where they raped underaged children on a billionaire Democrat donor's private island?
Or is this a situation where ignorance is bliss?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 05:50 PM (NaR/G)
But even if that's true, wouldn't it be better for us to know which Republicans are being blackmailed by the Deep State through the CIA because they got caught in a honey trap where they raped underaged children on a billionaire Democrat donor's private island?
Or is this a situation where ignorance is bliss?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (uCjyK)
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But it's perfectly reasonable to suspect Mossad (and MI-6) were involved as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The Security Services of the UK keep VERY close tabs on the royals including Randy Andy as a primary assignment for protection and to steer them clear of scandals.
Mossad involvement hinges of Ehud Barak seen hiding his face entering Epstein's NYC townhouse and the long relationship that Maxwell had with top Israeli officials and the Security Services. Maxwell became a very good friend of Leonid Brezhnev back in the 60's-70's and served as a key backchannel/purveyor of influence for a wide variety of IC topics. For that reason, Ghislaine grew up in Spy World and undoubtedly had Maxwell's contacts in that world on speed dial after he died.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The Security Services of the UK keep VERY close tabs on the royals including Randy Andy as a primary assignment for protection and to steer them clear of scandals.
Mossad involvement hinges of Ehud Barak seen hiding his face entering Epstein's NYC townhouse and the long relationship that Maxwell had with top Israeli officials and the Security Services. Maxwell became a very good friend of Leonid Brezhnev back in the 60's-70's and served as a key backchannel/purveyor of influence for a wide variety of IC topics. For that reason, Ghislaine grew up in Spy World and undoubtedly had Maxwell's contacts in that world on speed dial after he died.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (ctrM5)
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Are you tired of winning?
I am. If "winning" means Donald walks out there and tells everyone "Shut Up About Epstein" - which he did.
That's not winning. Fuck that.
I am. If "winning" means Donald walks out there and tells everyone "Shut Up About Epstein" - which he did.
That's not winning. Fuck that.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (kOKqg)
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I don’t see how it can be antisemitic to look at the Mossad theory.
A country like Israel is obviously going to act in its own self interest, the idea that a nation could be using blackmail to leverage their position is pretty much text book spy stuff. A
What we know every intelligence service does at one time or another, including the US.
It’s really the only theory that makes sense. The person prosecuting Epstein was told by a government official that he was an intelligence asset.
A country like Israel is obviously going to act in its own self interest, the idea that a nation could be using blackmail to leverage their position is pretty much text book spy stuff. A
What we know every intelligence service does at one time or another, including the US.
It’s really the only theory that makes sense. The person prosecuting Epstein was told by a government official that he was an intelligence asset.
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (g0oCT)
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There's more than a little evidence that Robert Maxwell was an asset for both MI6 and Mossad. What eventually became his publishing empire started as a front that printed the research of Soviet scientists so Western Intel could figure out who was worth trying to flip. Then he ran those businesses into the ground and "fell off his yacht" before he was given the honor of being buried at the Mount of Olives.
He introduced his daughter to Epstein, which creates a direct line between the intel world and Epstein. Not to mention the fact that there is no freaking way an operation like this that was conducted pretty much in the open for literally decades wouldn't have been able to continue unless the Powers That Be wanted it to.
He introduced his daughter to Epstein, which creates a direct line between the intel world and Epstein. Not to mention the fact that there is no freaking way an operation like this that was conducted pretty much in the open for literally decades wouldn't have been able to continue unless the Powers That Be wanted it to.
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (8l8nW)
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Epstein's Lolita Island ws similar to The Continental (of John Wick).
Spooks and the rich and powerful could hob-knob and share a barely legal girl or two while making business deals. Epstein got a skim of the transactions. It was an extortion free zone.
Spooks and the rich and powerful could hob-knob and share a barely legal girl or two while making business deals. Epstein got a skim of the transactions. It was an extortion free zone.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (/lPRQ)
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Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Jul 13
If you see the Epstein story as a crime story, which of course it is, you probably favor maximum disclosure of everyone and everything involved, including innocent people, like a typical court case.
If you see the Epstein story as something bigger, involving more than one nation, you might see it as a Commander in Chief issue, meaning the public is not meant to have the full story, similar to most national defense issues. We elect a president to decide -- in part -- what the public can safely see.
Would you favor full disclosure if you knew it would derail a peace negotiation?
Would you favor full disclosure if you knew it would end Republican control of Congress and plunge the country back into a Democrat open-border hellscape?
If you can't say what you would give up to get the full Epstein disclosure you crave, you're not a serious person.
Ethen C. @ethencky Jul 13 We don't elect "leaders". We elect representatives and lawmakers.
This is America, not Britain.
Trusting your government is so Boomer it hurts.
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Jul 13
It's literally the foundation of The Republic.
We elect people to make decisions for us.
If you see the Epstein story as a crime story, which of course it is, you probably favor maximum disclosure of everyone and everything involved, including innocent people, like a typical court case.
If you see the Epstein story as something bigger, involving more than one nation, you might see it as a Commander in Chief issue, meaning the public is not meant to have the full story, similar to most national defense issues. We elect a president to decide -- in part -- what the public can safely see.
Would you favor full disclosure if you knew it would derail a peace negotiation?
Would you favor full disclosure if you knew it would end Republican control of Congress and plunge the country back into a Democrat open-border hellscape?
If you can't say what you would give up to get the full Epstein disclosure you crave, you're not a serious person.
Ethen C. @ethencky Jul 13 We don't elect "leaders". We elect representatives and lawmakers.
This is America, not Britain.
Trusting your government is so Boomer it hurts.
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Jul 13
It's literally the foundation of The Republic.
We elect people to make decisions for us.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (2yoRf)
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Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Jul 13
If the only way to punish the Epstein “clients” involved you murdering your own children to make it happen, would you do it?
10% Yes, on principle
90% No, you nutbag
31,286 votes • Final results
Vox Dai @VoxDaiX 23h
Adams is still carrying water for the elites. Full Epstein disclosure is non-negotiable. Peace deals & partisan control are distractions—truth is the only currency that matters. Republicans? Worthless on immigration. Trust the clowns at your peril. voxday.net/2025/07/13/trus...
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 23h
I recommend blocking anyone who accuses you of “carrying water for the elites.” Get rid of the dummies.
If the only way to punish the Epstein “clients” involved you murdering your own children to make it happen, would you do it?
10% Yes, on principle
90% No, you nutbag
31,286 votes • Final results
Vox Dai @VoxDaiX 23h
Adams is still carrying water for the elites. Full Epstein disclosure is non-negotiable. Peace deals & partisan control are distractions—truth is the only currency that matters. Republicans? Worthless on immigration. Trust the clowns at your peril. voxday.net/2025/07/13/trus...
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 23h
I recommend blocking anyone who accuses you of “carrying water for the elites.” Get rid of the dummies.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (2yoRf)
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Freeing up his people to do their jobs while the left can't help themselves and attack him.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:50 PM (JThEY)
I hope you're right.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:50 PM (JThEY)
I hope you're right.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (gKWVE)
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The real problem is not Epstein specifically. It's the ongoing question of, who is really in charge, the President or our so-called intel agencies? and this is hardly an issue limited to the US.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (ULPxl)
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Just the News @JustTheNews 23h
Musk to Trump: Release the Epstein files 'as promised' justthenews.com/node/156638?…
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 8h
Why would we believe the government has videos of perps (aside from Epstein) doing crimes?
Matt Walsh @MattWalshBlog Jul 13
Up until 10 seconds ago there was unanimous agreement that Epstein was a pedophile and child sex trafficker with high profile clientele who all must be exposed and brought to justice. Now, out of the blue, we're being told that none of that is true and anyone who believes this thing that everyone believed is a whack job and a conspiracy theorist. This is the kind of shameless 180 degree unexplained pivot that leftists typically specialize in. Very weird to see it happening on the Right.
Elon Musk @elonmusk Jul 13 Replying to @MattWalshBlog
Easy to tell who is a paid influencer
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 5h
Am I on that list?
Musk to Trump: Release the Epstein files 'as promised' justthenews.com/node/156638?…
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 8h
Why would we believe the government has videos of perps (aside from Epstein) doing crimes?
Matt Walsh @MattWalshBlog Jul 13
Up until 10 seconds ago there was unanimous agreement that Epstein was a pedophile and child sex trafficker with high profile clientele who all must be exposed and brought to justice. Now, out of the blue, we're being told that none of that is true and anyone who believes this thing that everyone believed is a whack job and a conspiracy theorist. This is the kind of shameless 180 degree unexplained pivot that leftists typically specialize in. Very weird to see it happening on the Right.
Elon Musk @elonmusk Jul 13 Replying to @MattWalshBlog
Easy to tell who is a paid influencer
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 5h
Am I on that list?
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (2yoRf)
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1.
I don't think it was blackmail for the simple reason that if Epstein was seen as a malign actor, people would have warned others to stay away. I think it was an influence operation to make "friends" and then they will do favors for you because "we are all in the same club."
Outright blackmail has always seemed to be too much of a stretch to me.
I don't think it was blackmail for the simple reason that if Epstein was seen as a malign actor, people would have warned others to stay away. I think it was an influence operation to make "friends" and then they will do favors for you because "we are all in the same club."
Outright blackmail has always seemed to be too much of a stretch to me.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (rrOZL)
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So in a legalistic way, I can imagine that Bondi is halfway truthful in saying there is "no evidence of blackmail." No chargeable evidence, that is. Nothing she can bring to a court.
~ Ace
On the other hand, he’s dead. And we’re not after Epstein, really (and never were). It was always, “who are the pederasts?”
It’s fine, I’m used to not really getting what I want from our political leaders. 42 years of GOPe have prepped me for this. On the other hand, Trump’s delivered infinitely more than any other (R). At this point, Trump will Trump, and that’s the way things are.
~ Ace
On the other hand, he’s dead. And we’re not after Epstein, really (and never were). It was always, “who are the pederasts?”
It’s fine, I’m used to not really getting what I want from our political leaders. 42 years of GOPe have prepped me for this. On the other hand, Trump’s delivered infinitely more than any other (R). At this point, Trump will Trump, and that’s the way things are.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 14, 2025 05:53 PM (TJLr1)
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In a choice between almost anybody and Theodore "Apollo 11 Was Fake" Beale, I choose almost anybody.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 05:53 PM (gKWVE)
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Ghilsaine Maxwell has offered to give sworn testimony. Republicans in Congress are blocking that. Presumably Trump has told them to obey
What is being hidden? Where are all the video tapes that Epstein made for Decades?
Epstein and Trump were good friends
Does Ace think the girls on the we lites should be opened?
What is being hidden? Where are all the video tapes that Epstein made for Decades?
Epstein and Trump were good friends
Does Ace think the girls on the we lites should be opened?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (R0B/a)
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Bondi has been an embarrassment. She is tone deaf, not terribly bright, and does not have the resolution to tear into the scum that infest the DoJ. Her tenure will be listed as a failure as bitter as that of Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr.
That being said, they simply could have dealt with us like adults on this matter. People know what Grand Jury materiel is, and they know what classified information is. Had they leveled with us from the beginning, instead of "I've got it here on my desk right now!" type of lies, none of this would be happening. Once they bald-faced lied to us, there's no way to get people to believe that, all of a sudden, you're telling the truth again.
That being said, they simply could have dealt with us like adults on this matter. People know what Grand Jury materiel is, and they know what classified information is. Had they leveled with us from the beginning, instead of "I've got it here on my desk right now!" type of lies, none of this would be happening. Once they bald-faced lied to us, there's no way to get people to believe that, all of a sudden, you're telling the truth again.
Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (ys+zb)
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"Megyn Kelly floated the speculation that Biden's people (Obama's people, in other words) rewrote and edited the Epstein files so that they "drew a straight arrow towards Trump,"
I am willing to believe this. For one, Kelly is generally reliable. Two, it is exactly the sort diabolicalness to be expected from "Biden's people."
I am willing to believe this. For one, Kelly is generally reliable. Two, it is exactly the sort diabolicalness to be expected from "Biden's people."
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (WHfpM)
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I have no more thoughts re: Epstein issue. You guys figure it out.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (AOsQT)
So there is an island - that was burnt to the ground less than a week after it was seized. There was a pimp - supposedly. He hung himself on a bunk bed lower than he was.
And a woman. She's still in jail. She recruited the kids that were pimped out. Except we have ZERO names of who screwed them.
You have no more thoughts ?
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 05:51 PM (AOsQT)
So there is an island - that was burnt to the ground less than a week after it was seized. There was a pimp - supposedly. He hung himself on a bunk bed lower than he was.
And a woman. She's still in jail. She recruited the kids that were pimped out. Except we have ZERO names of who screwed them.
You have no more thoughts ?
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (kOKqg)
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>>I don't really think Bondi is covering up for anyone specifically; more like she's an incompetent glory hound who was way overpromoted.
Maybe, but I think there is a 0.0% chance she made this decision on her own. Trump's response during his cabinet meeting the other day made it pretty clear he is 100% onboard with this decision.
Bondi has been prosecuting pedophiles, both US citizens and illegals, since she got into office. And Trump is not exactly a shrinking violet. If they had the evidence to bring charges against anyone over this I think they would.
I think it's something else.
Maybe, but I think there is a 0.0% chance she made this decision on her own. Trump's response during his cabinet meeting the other day made it pretty clear he is 100% onboard with this decision.
Bondi has been prosecuting pedophiles, both US citizens and illegals, since she got into office. And Trump is not exactly a shrinking violet. If they had the evidence to bring charges against anyone over this I think they would.
I think it's something else.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (viF8m)
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I do not understand why Bondi said what she said about the list.
However, I don't care a fig about any "list".
At this point I wouldn't trust the words "and" or "the" on any document that has been in the hands of the Deep State for over 6 years.
If someone found the actual blackmail material, and the meta-data said the evidence was not AI or altered, then I would care about the scuzball in that video doinking a 15 y.o. girl.
However, I don't care a fig about any "list".
At this point I wouldn't trust the words "and" or "the" on any document that has been in the hands of the Deep State for over 6 years.
If someone found the actual blackmail material, and the meta-data said the evidence was not AI or altered, then I would care about the scuzball in that video doinking a 15 y.o. girl.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 05:55 PM (HlyYF)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em0V6fqdwa4
This one is an interview with Shaun Attwood which gets into it a bit - have not watched all of this one yet, but he does give some actual details.
This one is an interview with Shaun Attwood which gets into it a bit - have not watched all of this one yet, but he does give some actual details.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:55 PM (vd6bO)
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71 The real problem is not Epstein specifically. It's the ongoing question of, who is really in charge, the President or our so-called intel agencies? and this is hardly an issue limited to the US.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (ULPxl)
Agreed, that is the reason they are pressuring Trump and company to not release the information. Or are keeping it from him.
If Trump wants to show he's taking on the Deep State as promised, this would seem to be the lowest hanging fruit.
No one is going to openly defend child prostitution.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (ULPxl)
Agreed, that is the reason they are pressuring Trump and company to not release the information. Or are keeping it from him.
If Trump wants to show he's taking on the Deep State as promised, this would seem to be the lowest hanging fruit.
No one is going to openly defend child prostitution.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:55 PM (uCjyK)
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>>> 73 1.
I don't think it was blackmail for the simple reason that if Epstein was seen as a malign actor, people would have warned others to stay away. I think it was an influence operation to make "friends" and then they will do favors for you because "we are all in the same club."
Outright blackmail has always seemed to be too much of a stretch to me.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (rrOZL)
Well, outright blackmail could certainly be a fallback of sorts. But that's a hell of an um, initiation into the "club", wouldn't you say?
I don't think it was blackmail for the simple reason that if Epstein was seen as a malign actor, people would have warned others to stay away. I think it was an influence operation to make "friends" and then they will do favors for you because "we are all in the same club."
Outright blackmail has always seemed to be too much of a stretch to me.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:52 PM (rrOZL)
Well, outright blackmail could certainly be a fallback of sorts. But that's a hell of an um, initiation into the "club", wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:55 PM (ULPxl)
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2.
About a week ago Trump was asked about something China did - I don't remember what it was, but he dismissed it and he said "You think we don't do the same to them?"
But whatever it was (drones over military bases, I think but similar) it was something that we clearly do NOT do to them. It was incongruous.
I think it was a "tell." His mind was on other things and he was saying "sometimes we don't go after foreign countries too hard for what they do because we do not want them to reveal what we do."
I think it was about Epstein.
About a week ago Trump was asked about something China did - I don't remember what it was, but he dismissed it and he said "You think we don't do the same to them?"
But whatever it was (drones over military bases, I think but similar) it was something that we clearly do NOT do to them. It was incongruous.
I think it was a "tell." His mind was on other things and he was saying "sometimes we don't go after foreign countries too hard for what they do because we do not want them to reveal what we do."
I think it was about Epstein.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:55 PM (rrOZL)
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Then why wouldn't you say that? "Our evidence indicates these files were tampered with somewhere along the line, and the FBI is working diligently to discover who tampered with them, whether inside the government or not"
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You mean the same bastards on the left that would lie to your face and tell you the sun is not shining as you're applying another layer of sunscreen while roasting on the beach?
Those are assholes are who we'd have to rely upon to agree "that person we fucking hate and have been after for years" isn't really on the list?
I'll decline that noble gamble.
No matter how carefully confirmed, every bit of false information that was planted will be cited as gospel fact and further, any attempt to discredit it as proof of the conspiracy's Truth.
--
You mean the same bastards on the left that would lie to your face and tell you the sun is not shining as you're applying another layer of sunscreen while roasting on the beach?
Those are assholes are who we'd have to rely upon to agree "that person we fucking hate and have been after for years" isn't really on the list?
I'll decline that noble gamble.
No matter how carefully confirmed, every bit of false information that was planted will be cited as gospel fact and further, any attempt to discredit it as proof of the conspiracy's Truth.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:56 PM (JThEY)
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I am not sure what the truth is.
Re: Carlson
Has everyone just gone fucking nuts? Is that the problem?
Re: Carlson
Has everyone just gone fucking nuts? Is that the problem?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 05:56 PM (zZu0s)
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And speaking of Cops wire blackmail victims to get the blackmailer to make the linkage between demand and threat explicitly on audiotape, and blackmailers continue refusing to make the blackmail threat explicit.
Scott Adams and Elon Musk are dancing the same dance. Musk is insinuating Adams is a shill - "but no I'm just using a generality which happens to be in an Adams conversation" - to which, Adams is forcing Musk to say something legally actionable.
Which Musk shouldn't, assuming he is not presently high on dope and ketamine.
Scott Adams and Elon Musk are dancing the same dance. Musk is insinuating Adams is a shill - "but no I'm just using a generality which happens to be in an Adams conversation" - to which, Adams is forcing Musk to say something legally actionable.
Which Musk shouldn't, assuming he is not presently high on dope and ketamine.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 05:56 PM (gKWVE)
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You know - the same shit people here complain about when its Obama.
We complained when Obama lowered taxes? LOL. Give back your pay.
Look as far as I am concerned if Trump is in videos abusing some 15 year old eastern European girl in the Epstein temple, I want him head first into a woodchipper. I don't care who this takes down. I DO NOT CARE.
But the idea that Trump is in there is ludicrous and without a shred of plausibility or evidence. He's definitely mentioned in the files, he borrowed Epstein's plane a few times. But they already went through this wth Trump and while many people involved mentioned Trump it was never once in the context of "hell yeah he was at the ranch with a pile of girls! IT was always "he borrowed this plane to get to NYC" kind of thing.
We complained when Obama lowered taxes? LOL. Give back your pay.
Look as far as I am concerned if Trump is in videos abusing some 15 year old eastern European girl in the Epstein temple, I want him head first into a woodchipper. I don't care who this takes down. I DO NOT CARE.
But the idea that Trump is in there is ludicrous and without a shred of plausibility or evidence. He's definitely mentioned in the files, he borrowed Epstein's plane a few times. But they already went through this wth Trump and while many people involved mentioned Trump it was never once in the context of "hell yeah he was at the ranch with a pile of girls! IT was always "he borrowed this plane to get to NYC" kind of thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:56 PM (dfIr7)
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I have no idea what's going on with all this.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I do not understand why Bondi said what she said about the list.
Now go look at the Blondi statements that they can't name names because "Its Child Porn".
She might be actually shooting straight.
Now go look at the Blondi statements that they can't name names because "Its Child Porn".
She might be actually shooting straight.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM (kOKqg)
Posted by: Tony Fauci at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM (XQo4F)
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Epstein and Trump were good friends
Does Ace think the girls on the we lites should be opened?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (R0B/a)
That's crap. Trump threw him off Mar A Lago and banned him from his properties. They were not "good friends."
Does Ace think the girls on the we lites should be opened?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (R0B/a)
That's crap. Trump threw him off Mar A Lago and banned him from his properties. They were not "good friends."
Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM (ys+zb)
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We elect a president to decide -- in part -- what the public can safely see.
No. This is why Daniel Patrick Moynihan was right about abolishing the CIA. This persistent notion that the public in a democratic republic can't handle the truth (about a IC-run honeypot op being run on IS citizens among others, of all things) is preposterous. I'm tired of all this "You can't handle the truth!" posturing. Our IC primarily runs ops on us. It's an absurd state of affairs. We can't be said to be governing ourselves at all under such a state of affairs.
No. This is why Daniel Patrick Moynihan was right about abolishing the CIA. This persistent notion that the public in a democratic republic can't handle the truth (about a IC-run honeypot op being run on IS citizens among others, of all things) is preposterous. I'm tired of all this "You can't handle the truth!" posturing. Our IC primarily runs ops on us. It's an absurd state of affairs. We can't be said to be governing ourselves at all under such a state of affairs.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM (TdYBy)
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I don’t see how it can be antisemitic to look at the Mossad theory.
==
If it serves to exclude other very reasonable theories? More reasonable (think resources it takes to keep this enterprise going - island, planes, etc.) than MOSSAD. The money came from the US, and spy-craft from MI6 theory is more potent. All other friendly agencies are outliers in this.
==
If it serves to exclude other very reasonable theories? More reasonable (think resources it takes to keep this enterprise going - island, planes, etc.) than MOSSAD. The money came from the US, and spy-craft from MI6 theory is more potent. All other friendly agencies are outliers in this.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 05:58 PM (g47mK)
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Doesn't matter that inflation is low.
Doesn't matter that there is a budget surplus due to tariffs.
Doesn't matter that illegals are self deporting and are being deported
No, we are supposed to believe we vote for Trump for transparency on Epstein. I really could care less.
Doesn't matter that there is a budget surplus due to tariffs.
Doesn't matter that illegals are self deporting and are being deported
No, we are supposed to believe we vote for Trump for transparency on Epstein. I really could care less.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 14, 2025 05:58 PM (AcTAo)
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"Are you tired of winning?"
.............
No. But I wouldn't consider this issue to be winning. It's a mess that needs to be cleared up or go away. He's trying to make it go away. Others want it cleared up.
.............
No. But I wouldn't consider this issue to be winning. It's a mess that needs to be cleared up or go away. He's trying to make it go away. Others want it cleared up.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 14, 2025 05:58 PM (eYAt4)
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President Donald Trump faces a fast-metastasizing MAGA rebellion amid fallout over his administration's handling of the files from the criminal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.
This will be all over in a week and we'll all be declaring the end of the world or the end of MAGA over something else that is trivial and non-essential to our well being.
The wealthy and the politically connected have been getting away with crimes since expulsion from The Garden. Even Cain was left relatively unpunished for murdering Abel.
There is no new revelation.
This will be all over in a week and we'll all be declaring the end of the world or the end of MAGA over something else that is trivial and non-essential to our well being.
The wealthy and the politically connected have been getting away with crimes since expulsion from The Garden. Even Cain was left relatively unpunished for murdering Abel.
There is no new revelation.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 05:58 PM (kHd4y)
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Decades?
Epstein and Trump were good friends
Does Ace think the girls on the we lites should be opened?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM
Wrong. epstein and Trump were not "good friends". They traveled in the same uber rich circles until Trump kicked epstein out of his club 30+ years ago for hitting on underage girls.
Epstein and Trump were good friends
Does Ace think the girls on the we lites should be opened?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM
Wrong. epstein and Trump were not "good friends". They traveled in the same uber rich circles until Trump kicked epstein out of his club 30+ years ago for hitting on underage girls.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 05:59 PM (e5NfL)
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We elect a president to decide -- in part -- what the public can safely see.
Bullshit. Whomever said this ? Bullshit.
Bullshit. Whomever said this ? Bullshit.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 05:59 PM (kOKqg)
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By not releasing everything about Epstein, Trump has shown conclusively that he diddled underage girls!!!1!
By not releasing everything about Epstein, Trump has shown conclusively that he diddled underage girls!!!1!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 05:59 PM (HZi96)
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Posted by: Tony Fauci at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM (XQo4F)
You very likely will be in the life to come.
You very likely will be in the life to come.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 06:00 PM (2GCMq)
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>>> 75 In a choice between almost anybody and Theodore "Apollo 11 Was Fake" Beale, I choose almost anybody.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 05:53 PM (gKWVE)
Heh.
If I were to go with any odd theory about deception regarding the Apollo missions, it would be that we "cheated" by using technology reverse-engineered from AWIENS!
Could make a good sci-fi book.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 05:53 PM (gKWVE)
Heh.
If I were to go with any odd theory about deception regarding the Apollo missions, it would be that we "cheated" by using technology reverse-engineered from AWIENS!
Could make a good sci-fi book.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:00 PM (ULPxl)
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The "list" I want to see released is all of the members of Congress that used my tax dollars to pay hush money to cover up their alleged sexual assaults.
I want every Democrat exposed ... and every Republican.
If you want to negotiate a NDA, then do it with your own damn money. If you used MY money, then I am also a party to the NDA and I get disclosure of what was actually in the settlement/agreement.
I mostly want actual justice. Catching a number of GOPe would just be some additional frosting on the cake!
I want every Democrat exposed ... and every Republican.
If you want to negotiate a NDA, then do it with your own damn money. If you used MY money, then I am also a party to the NDA and I get disclosure of what was actually in the settlement/agreement.
I mostly want actual justice. Catching a number of GOPe would just be some additional frosting on the cake!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (HlyYF)
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Another thing that is not being discussed much (as far as I have heard) is that if various intel agencies were involved in this Epstein business, how many other similar operations are going on now?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (vd6bO)
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No. This is why Daniel Patrick Moynihan was right about abolishing the CIA. This persistent notion that the public in a democratic republic can't handle the truth (about a IC-run honeypot op being run on IS citizens among others, of all things) is preposterous. I'm tired of all this "You can't handle the truth!" posturing. Our IC primarily runs ops on us. It's an absurd state of affairs. We can't be said to be governing ourselves at all under such a state of affairs.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM (TdYBy)
Completely agreed, and it's mind numbing to me that anyone is trying to argue the other side of this issue. Especially in a post Russiagate / post COVID world.
I'm expected to sit back and "trust the experts" on everything the government does? How is that in any way a self governing system of government if I can't even know the underlying facts, let alone form my own opinions on them?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM (TdYBy)
Completely agreed, and it's mind numbing to me that anyone is trying to argue the other side of this issue. Especially in a post Russiagate / post COVID world.
I'm expected to sit back and "trust the experts" on everything the government does? How is that in any way a self governing system of government if I can't even know the underlying facts, let alone form my own opinions on them?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (uCjyK)
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"No one is going to openly defend child prostitution."
The Dems are defending child labor by illegals. I wouldn't be so sure they won't defend child prostitution
The Dems are defending child labor by illegals. I wouldn't be so sure they won't defend child prostitution
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (AcTAo)
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But the idea that Trump is in there is ludicrous and without a shred of plausibility or evidence.
Then release the video. Release the names. Not that hard, man. Not that complicated.
Then release the video. Release the names. Not that hard, man. Not that complicated.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (kOKqg)
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MOSSAD does not have such a heavy footprint.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (g47mK)
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They traveled in the same uber rich circles until Trump kicked epstein out of his club 30+ years ago for hitting on underage girls.
And tipped the FBI off to his proclivities.
And tipped the FBI off to his proclivities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:02 PM (dfIr7)
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If there was no client list then Maxwell needs to be released from prison.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 06:02 PM (ImXfC)
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Of course, if Trump had diddled underage girls, he'd been rotting in ADX Florence right now. Think Garland wouldn't have splashed it everywhere?
Of course, if Trump had diddled underage girls, he'd been rotting in ADX Florence right now. Think Garland wouldn't have splashed it everywhere?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 06:02 PM (HZi96)
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The pedos that are on " the list" didn't give up their perversion because Epstein is gone. Find the traffickers and work up from there.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:02 PM (HFcKg)
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What if Epstein wasn't anything but what he appeared? In return for supplying underage girls to rich and powerful people, he received large sums of cash and inside information?
And, just suppose "the list" contains names, many of which cannot be verified, which if exposed, would ruin people who were not in any way involved?
It's not like it isn't possible to create the illusion impropriety in order to sway people to go along with whatever agenda.
Is there anyone here who really believes Hillary is above creating a "client list" knowing full well whoever she targets with her insinuations is going to feel threatened? Hillary has plenty of people in the media who would breathlessly report anything she sent over to them. That makes the list, fake or not, a credible threat.
Is there anyone included who is dirty? Most likely. But, there's also a fair chance some of the list was created out of whole cloth.
And, just suppose "the list" contains names, many of which cannot be verified, which if exposed, would ruin people who were not in any way involved?
It's not like it isn't possible to create the illusion impropriety in order to sway people to go along with whatever agenda.
Is there anyone here who really believes Hillary is above creating a "client list" knowing full well whoever she targets with her insinuations is going to feel threatened? Hillary has plenty of people in the media who would breathlessly report anything she sent over to them. That makes the list, fake or not, a credible threat.
Is there anyone included who is dirty? Most likely. But, there's also a fair chance some of the list was created out of whole cloth.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 06:02 PM (tT6L1)
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I did not vote for the list.
I voted first for deportations of illegals stealing money in healthcare, education, fraud, and our taxes supporting all of this plus prison. Also the rapes, murders, and! child trafficking.
I voted against Kamkook and Dims.
I voted for what he has done so far: cut fraud, money laundering via USAID, reducing government waste...including employees sucking from the teat.
I voted for no males in female sports or locker rooms.
I voted for cutting Medicaid to Planned Parenthood, thereby hopefully reducing abortions. I don't want to pay for abortions.
I voted for safety and security against foreign enemies and, yes, bombing Iran's nuke potential.Border protection. Military strength.
I voted for men, Trump/Vance, who have the testosterone to stand down WEF weenies and climate change dikheads in the EU and UK.
I basically voted for the Dims to have their hair on fire since late January.
To sum: I did not vote for this list and it is fine if/when it is revealed later. Especially the Clintons. However, they are all hanging by threads in their advancing old age. Barky is mostly silent. Biden is eating pudding.
It's all good. Take a breath.
I voted first for deportations of illegals stealing money in healthcare, education, fraud, and our taxes supporting all of this plus prison. Also the rapes, murders, and! child trafficking.
I voted against Kamkook and Dims.
I voted for what he has done so far: cut fraud, money laundering via USAID, reducing government waste...including employees sucking from the teat.
I voted for no males in female sports or locker rooms.
I voted for cutting Medicaid to Planned Parenthood, thereby hopefully reducing abortions. I don't want to pay for abortions.
I voted for safety and security against foreign enemies and, yes, bombing Iran's nuke potential.Border protection. Military strength.
I voted for men, Trump/Vance, who have the testosterone to stand down WEF weenies and climate change dikheads in the EU and UK.
I basically voted for the Dims to have their hair on fire since late January.
To sum: I did not vote for this list and it is fine if/when it is revealed later. Especially the Clintons. However, they are all hanging by threads in their advancing old age. Barky is mostly silent. Biden is eating pudding.
It's all good. Take a breath.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (6PCLE)
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The Dems are defending child labor by illegals.
Pay Attention !!! Certain Republicans here are defending it. Because disclosing it would embarrass "Trump".
Read it.
Pay Attention !!! Certain Republicans here are defending it. Because disclosing it would embarrass "Trump".
Read it.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (kOKqg)
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FWIW, I seem to recall that Trump kicked Epstein out of one of his country clubs because the latter had behaved inappropriately toward a member's daughter.
Posted by: Paco at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (g47mK)
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>>>I don’t see how it can be antisemitic to look at the Mossad theory.
A country like Israel is obviously going to act in its own self interest, the idea that a nation could be using blackmail to leverage their position is pretty much text book spy stuff.
I don't think it's antisemitic to consider the theory. I do think it's antisemitic to blame everything on Israel and claim the Mossad is running the US, as Tucker Carlson does.
The guy fucking has Palestinians on to make the case that Jews hate Christians so we should really just team up to fight the Jews.
Every other month Tucker Carlson's got some hot new conspiracy theory about the Jews.
A country like Israel is obviously going to act in its own self interest, the idea that a nation could be using blackmail to leverage their position is pretty much text book spy stuff.
I don't think it's antisemitic to consider the theory. I do think it's antisemitic to blame everything on Israel and claim the Mossad is running the US, as Tucker Carlson does.
The guy fucking has Palestinians on to make the case that Jews hate Christians so we should really just team up to fight the Jews.
Every other month Tucker Carlson's got some hot new conspiracy theory about the Jews.
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (KRtlO)
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I think Trump is privy to information within the files that would, if released, impinge on his larger goals and the allies he needs in the pursuit of those goals. It would open cans of litigatory worms that would consume the precious time he has left. This was not and is not his scandal. As someone said earlier, let God sort it out.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (WHfpM)
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If Trunp was involved in any way it would have been released long ago. So that a non starter.
But there is someone or most likely many people being protected.
But there is someone or most likely many people being protected.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (ImXfC)
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IT was always "he borrowed this plane to get to NYC" kind of thing.
I have a retired USAF Col who flew diplomatic jets. His crew would attach themselves to some diplomatic thing and when foreign diplomats wanted a ride to or from the venue to their home country, depending on the whims of senior management he would fly them them.
You can absolutely bet the plane was wired for HUMINT.
Dittos with Epstein's jet. We can debate all day on which of the Five Eyes held title to the plane and kept it fueled, insured, maintained and staffed.
I have a retired USAF Col who flew diplomatic jets. His crew would attach themselves to some diplomatic thing and when foreign diplomats wanted a ride to or from the venue to their home country, depending on the whims of senior management he would fly them them.
You can absolutely bet the plane was wired for HUMINT.
Dittos with Epstein's jet. We can debate all day on which of the Five Eyes held title to the plane and kept it fueled, insured, maintained and staffed.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kHd4y)
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>>> 105 Another thing that is not being discussed much (as far as I have heard) is that if various intel agencies were involved in this Epstein business, how many other similar operations are going on now?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (vd6bO)
*ding ding ding*
Which could, you know, *possibly* have an effect on whether or not the changes Trump has made so far are permanent, let alone more substantial but also necessary changes that haven't happened yet.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (vd6bO)
*ding ding ding*
Which could, you know, *possibly* have an effect on whether or not the changes Trump has made so far are permanent, let alone more substantial but also necessary changes that haven't happened yet.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (ULPxl)
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>> If it serves to exclude other very reasonable theories? More reasonable (think resources it takes to keep this enterprise going - island, planes, etc.) than MOSSAD. The money came from the US, and spy-craft from MI6 theory is more potent. All other friendly agencies are outliers in this.
There is a direct link between Maxwell and Mossad through her dad. There's a reason folks always bring up the Mossad theory. We accept they can run the multi-year grim beeper episode or sneak explosives into Iranian bedrooms but they can't run the most basic honey potting operation?
There is a direct link between Maxwell and Mossad through her dad. There's a reason folks always bring up the Mossad theory. We accept they can run the multi-year grim beeper episode or sneak explosives into Iranian bedrooms but they can't run the most basic honey potting operation?
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (8l8nW)
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It's all good. Take a breath.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (6PCLE)
Right on.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (6PCLE)
Right on.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (WHfpM)
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Well, outright blackmail could certainly be a fallback of sorts. But that's a hell of an um, initiation into the "club", wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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I brought up my brother a few weeks ago.
Thinking about it since, I am convinced he was groomed since H. S. into some kind of perverted sex cult. I have remembered more evidence from long ago and there is too much to ignore.
He was an idiot, but went to law school and got job at DC white shoe law firm.
I honestly believe that there is an eyes wide shut perverted sex culture in DC. So Epstein could have been just a way to keep the IC (whomever's IC) connected to individuals to trade favors without it ever being blackmail.
Trump was never in that "club" and that is part of the reason that they can not control him, but they need to destroy him.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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I brought up my brother a few weeks ago.
Thinking about it since, I am convinced he was groomed since H. S. into some kind of perverted sex cult. I have remembered more evidence from long ago and there is too much to ignore.
He was an idiot, but went to law school and got job at DC white shoe law firm.
I honestly believe that there is an eyes wide shut perverted sex culture in DC. So Epstein could have been just a way to keep the IC (whomever's IC) connected to individuals to trade favors without it ever being blackmail.
Trump was never in that "club" and that is part of the reason that they can not control him, but they need to destroy him.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (rrOZL)
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I did not vote for the list.
Well I sure as shit did. If there is child trafficking going on ? I don't give a damn about tax rates.
Release the names. Or let Maxwell out. One or the other.
Well I sure as shit did. If there is child trafficking going on ? I don't give a damn about tax rates.
Release the names. Or let Maxwell out. One or the other.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kOKqg)
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>>No. This is why Daniel Patrick Moynihan was right about abolishing the CIA
So was Kennedy. So have a lot of people. But even if the CIA was abolished it's ludicrous to think there isn't information that is released to the public. That's why we have document classification.
Trump is involved with international negotiations with some of the most ruthless countries on the planet. And that includes our supposed allies. They all have intel communities that do shit the public never finds out about. I don't trust half the people in this country not to try and undermine Trump and us.
If releasing the Epstein files causes the US to be in a weaker position and nobody is getting indicted let alone jailed I'm not sure why that is a good thing.
So was Kennedy. So have a lot of people. But even if the CIA was abolished it's ludicrous to think there isn't information that is released to the public. That's why we have document classification.
Trump is involved with international negotiations with some of the most ruthless countries on the planet. And that includes our supposed allies. They all have intel communities that do shit the public never finds out about. I don't trust half the people in this country not to try and undermine Trump and us.
If releasing the Epstein files causes the US to be in a weaker position and nobody is getting indicted let alone jailed I'm not sure why that is a good thing.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:05 PM (viF8m)
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109 MOSSAD does not have such a heavy footprint.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (g47mK)
Why do you have to bring everything back to Israel?
No one cares about what role Mossad played, they're a sometimes friendly sometimes not arm of the CIA, like ISI and every other intelligence agency in that part of the world.
No, they definitely would not be able to run an operation like this on US soil without US intel agencies being involved. And we already basically have that confirmed by Alex Acosta, who I think it's safe to say was taking orders from US intel and not Israeli intel.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:01 PM (g47mK)
Why do you have to bring everything back to Israel?
No one cares about what role Mossad played, they're a sometimes friendly sometimes not arm of the CIA, like ISI and every other intelligence agency in that part of the world.
No, they definitely would not be able to run an operation like this on US soil without US intel agencies being involved. And we already basically have that confirmed by Alex Acosta, who I think it's safe to say was taking orders from US intel and not Israeli intel.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:05 PM (uCjyK)
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Every other month Tucker Carlson's got some hot new conspiracy theory about the Jews.
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (KRtlO)
Have they perfected the weather machines yet?
Posted by: ace at July 14, 2025 06:03 PM (KRtlO)
Have they perfected the weather machines yet?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 06:05 PM (ImXfC)
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Then release the video. Release the names. Not that hard, man. Not that complicated.
Sure, I want to see that too. I want it all released. If Trump is right and its been defrauded, that complicates things, but it should be dealt with soon as possible, not say "who's that guy, lets move on!"
Sure, I want to see that too. I want it all released. If Trump is right and its been defrauded, that complicates things, but it should be dealt with soon as possible, not say "who's that guy, lets move on!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:05 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:05 PM (XeTAE)
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People don't kill themselves when they know you don't have anything on them. If people Diddy and Weinstein didn't kill themselves awaiting their trials and there existed enough dirt on them to actually stick something on them, why would Epstein, on whom we are told there isn't any evidence, thought his situation was so hopeless that he wanted to take the easy way out?
I don't really care what the answer is, but I do care that the narrative I'm being told is obviously untrue in at least some way.
I don't really care what the answer is, but I do care that the narrative I'm being told is obviously untrue in at least some way.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 06:06 PM (B9Prs)
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The self-own on the Epstein files is what bothers me, since its a reminiscent of how mistakes were often made in the first term. But, this time really is different insofar as Trump has so many good things happening and, now, this issue threatens to distract the administration, and at a very important moment; Trump's success in this so-far remarkable second term will ride to a large degree on what he gets done before the mid-terms, and how the GOP does in those elections.
So I hope this whole Epstein hand-wringing can be brought to a close, and soon.
So I hope this whole Epstein hand-wringing can be brought to a close, and soon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 06:06 PM (KPjEa)
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91 I do not understand why Bondi said what she said about the list.
Now go look at the Blondi statements that they can't name names because "Its Child Porn".
She might be actually shooting straight.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM
I wrote imprecisely. I was talking about the first time she talked: I have the Epstein files on my desk ready to release.
I think you are talking about the second time she talked: about reasons not to release the files.
You may be right on a good reason to withhold the content. However, you don't tease that the Super Bowl is coming on next, and then go to the Home Shopping Network after the commercial break.
That is a recipe to lose credibility.
Now go look at the Blondi statements that they can't name names because "Its Child Porn".
She might be actually shooting straight.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM
I wrote imprecisely. I was talking about the first time she talked: I have the Epstein files on my desk ready to release.
I think you are talking about the second time she talked: about reasons not to release the files.
You may be right on a good reason to withhold the content. However, you don't tease that the Super Bowl is coming on next, and then go to the Home Shopping Network after the commercial break.
That is a recipe to lose credibility.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 06:06 PM (HlyYF)
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It's all good. Take a breath.
And ... bullshit.
The island was burned down, less than a week after the FBI made a big show of taking it.
Why ? Because it's not "all good".
And ... bullshit.
The island was burned down, less than a week after the FBI made a big show of taking it.
Why ? Because it's not "all good".
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:06 PM (kOKqg)
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Why do we get posters with new handles insulting other posters here whenever Epstein is discussed.? Bah.
See some of your folks tomorrow. Have a good afternoon/evening.
See some of your folks tomorrow. Have a good afternoon/evening.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 06:06 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:06 PM (dfIr7)
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I mean, I could see it. Let the dems and the media get way out over their skis and then say fine, I’m appointing a special prosecutor.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 06:07 PM (u73oe)
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Musk is insinuating Adams is a shill
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Musk didn't mention him at all -- I gave the full Matt Walsh tweet and Musk's reply -- and was about the bunch of MAGA influencers, like Catturd and Gunther Eagleman -- who have changed 180° in just months and not just going back to e.g. 2019 -- that Adams decided to take personally for some strange reason.
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Musk didn't mention him at all -- I gave the full Matt Walsh tweet and Musk's reply -- and was about the bunch of MAGA influencers, like Catturd and Gunther Eagleman -- who have changed 180° in just months and not just going back to e.g. 2019 -- that Adams decided to take personally for some strange reason.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:07 PM (2yoRf)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 06:07 PM (rrOZL)
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Just spitballing here, but what if Trump & Co. are gaslighting the media to insist on getting to the truth which turns out to be (as expected) that it's all or mostly all lefties that are the johns?
Posted by: AMartel at July 14, 2025 06:08 PM (otvi3)
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Still and all, Pam Bondi secured her Platinum Membership in Mittens Romney's "Binders Full of [______] Museum" with her "binders full of clients' information" fiasco back in February.
That was a seriously screwed up own goal. She ought to have been shit canned right there and then.
Still and all, Pam Bondi secured her Platinum Membership in Mittens Romney's "Binders Full of [______] Museum" with her "binders full of clients' information" fiasco back in February.
That was a seriously screwed up own goal. She ought to have been shit canned right there and then.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:09 PM (XeTAE)
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Release the names. Or let Maxwell out. One or the other.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kOKqg)
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Horseshit posts like this one showing up here now are obviously paid agitation from the left, trying to weaken Trump politically with his base.
This is the kind of politics we have now, paid cowardly traitors trying to undermine the country.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kOKqg)
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Horseshit posts like this one showing up here now are obviously paid agitation from the left, trying to weaken Trump politically with his base.
This is the kind of politics we have now, paid cowardly traitors trying to undermine the country.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 06:09 PM (KPjEa)
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142 Just spitballing here, but what if Trump & Co. are gaslighting the media to insist on getting to the truth which turns out to be (as expected) that it's all or mostly all lefties that are the johns?
Posted by: AMartel at July 14, 2025 06:08 PM (otvi3)
Agree. I'll wait. I am never one to go hysteric over anything. Ok, snakes. But that's all in my entire life.
Posted by: AMartel at July 14, 2025 06:08 PM (otvi3)
Agree. I'll wait. I am never one to go hysteric over anything. Ok, snakes. But that's all in my entire life.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:09 PM (6PCLE)
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Yes we can totally rely on all the Epstein docs as legitimate and not part of any op. I mean it’s the FBI, you guys.
I honestly don’t give a shit about this at all.
And Laura Loomer along with Tucker have become a bunch of cranks. Especially Loomer who always seems to be stirring the shit pot. Hint, Laura. You’re not the leader of anything. Nobody elected you.
I honestly don’t give a shit about this at all.
And Laura Loomer along with Tucker have become a bunch of cranks. Especially Loomer who always seems to be stirring the shit pot. Hint, Laura. You’re not the leader of anything. Nobody elected you.
Posted by: Vengeance at July 14, 2025 06:09 PM (FpXzY)
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Why do we get posters with new handles insulting other posters here whenever Epstein is discussed.? Bah.
Why do you constantly have a bone to pick, a little side comment to defend this or that woman, every time a woman gets called out ?
Yet now, we're talking about a real thing where real children got diddled on an island, and you got nothing. Because "TRUMP".
I won't tell you to shut up. It would be a waste of time.
Why do you constantly have a bone to pick, a little side comment to defend this or that woman, every time a woman gets called out ?
Yet now, we're talking about a real thing where real children got diddled on an island, and you got nothing. Because "TRUMP".
I won't tell you to shut up. It would be a waste of time.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:10 PM (kOKqg)
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Some of you might want to step back and consider, no matter how moral and well-intentioned your position is, and contemplate why you are now on the same side of an issue as one of our most virulent and nasty trolls, who has never missed a lie to repeat.
Or not.
I'm sure this time the left is of pure motives.
Or not.
I'm sure this time the left is of pure motives.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:10 PM (JThEY)
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There is a direct link between Maxwell and Mossad through her dad. There's a reason folks always bring up the Mossad theory. We accept they can run the multi-year grim beeper episode or sneak explosives into Iranian bedrooms but they can't run the most basic honey potting operation?
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (8l8nW)
Direct link? like...she was a daughter of a UK politician, and a publisher (Universal Exports !) who was rumored to be involved with shady spy organizations ? that is the solid link ? this reeks of MI6 !
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (8l8nW)
Direct link? like...she was a daughter of a UK politician, and a publisher (Universal Exports !) who was rumored to be involved with shady spy organizations ? that is the solid link ? this reeks of MI6 !
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:10 PM (g47mK)
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93 Epstein and Trump were good friends
Does Ace think the girls on the we lites should be opened?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (R0B/a)
That's crap. Trump threw him off Mar A Lago and banned him from his properties. They were not "good friends."
Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM
Good point, but I would take it even farther.
I have seen a bunch of photos that suggest Trump was certainly friendly with Epstein.
THEN he found out Epstein was almost certainly involved in skeevy sh*t. After that point, Trump apparently had nothing further to do with Epstein.
Ceasing contact with an enemy is no trouble, because I didn't have anything to do with them anyway.
Ceasing contact with a "friend" after you find out they are skeevy shows a lot of personal honor, IMO.
Does Ace think the girls on the we lites should be opened?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (R0B/a)
That's crap. Trump threw him off Mar A Lago and banned him from his properties. They were not "good friends."
Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 14, 2025 05:57 PM
Good point, but I would take it even farther.
I have seen a bunch of photos that suggest Trump was certainly friendly with Epstein.
THEN he found out Epstein was almost certainly involved in skeevy sh*t. After that point, Trump apparently had nothing further to do with Epstein.
Ceasing contact with an enemy is no trouble, because I didn't have anything to do with them anyway.
Ceasing contact with a "friend" after you find out they are skeevy shows a lot of personal honor, IMO.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 14, 2025 06:10 PM (HlyYF)
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Why do you constantly have a bone to pick, a little side comment to defend this or that woman, every time a woman gets called out ?
Yet now, we're talking about a real thing where real children got diddled on an island, and you got nothing. Because "TRUMP".
I won't tell you to shut up. It would be a waste of time.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:10 PM (kOKqg)
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It's her shtick. Just ignore it.
Yet now, we're talking about a real thing where real children got diddled on an island, and you got nothing. Because "TRUMP".
I won't tell you to shut up. It would be a waste of time.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:10 PM (kOKqg)
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It's her shtick. Just ignore it.
Posted by: Slim Pickens at July 14, 2025 06:11 PM (01DnR)
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Walk and chew gum.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 06:11 PM (63Dwl)
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Horseshit posts like this one showing up here now are obviously paid agitation from the left, trying to weaken Trump politically with his base.
I only voted for him Three Times. But if there are no Johns ? Why is she in jail ?
I only voted for him Three Times. But if there are no Johns ? Why is she in jail ?
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:11 PM (kOKqg)
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>>> 126
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I brought up my brother a few weeks ago.
Thinking about it since, I am convinced he was groomed since H. S. into some kind of perverted sex cult. I have remembered more evidence from long ago and there is too much to ignore.
He was an idiot, but went to law school and got job at DC white shoe law firm.
I honestly believe that there is an eyes wide shut perverted sex culture in DC. So Epstein could have been just a way to keep the IC (whomever's IC) connected to individuals to trade favors without it ever being blackmail.
Trump was never in that "club" and that is part of the reason that they can not control him, but they need to destroy him.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (rrOZL)
What's interesting, and a little disturbing, is that as far as anyone here knows, your brother is just "some dood", iow not related to any big political or business families... yet he's possibly involved with this thing.
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I brought up my brother a few weeks ago.
Thinking about it since, I am convinced he was groomed since H. S. into some kind of perverted sex cult. I have remembered more evidence from long ago and there is too much to ignore.
He was an idiot, but went to law school and got job at DC white shoe law firm.
I honestly believe that there is an eyes wide shut perverted sex culture in DC. So Epstein could have been just a way to keep the IC (whomever's IC) connected to individuals to trade favors without it ever being blackmail.
Trump was never in that "club" and that is part of the reason that they can not control him, but they need to destroy him.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (rrOZL)
What's interesting, and a little disturbing, is that as far as anyone here knows, your brother is just "some dood", iow not related to any big political or business families... yet he's possibly involved with this thing.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:12 PM (ULPxl)
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Anonymous Conservative's pov is that you become a member of the club by engaging in blackmail worthy behavior. Its a sign you can be trusted with power because you can be destroyed with ease. And everyone else in the club is the same.
Imagine Ace being offered a time machine and a loaded M-16. He sets off to kill Hitler, Goebbels, and Mengele. Someone says, but why? Killing three Nazis changes little.
He explains 'justice' and they reply 'still not enough' so he says 'they are very bad people who lead others into wickedness, and greatly increase the power of evil' and killing them 'will encourage others to be less wicked'.
These are very bad people who not only have done evil, but will continue to do so, and will strongly fight in a conspiracy against good, and will strengthen the hand of ordinary wickedoers.
Icing them is antibiotics.
Imagine Ace being offered a time machine and a loaded M-16. He sets off to kill Hitler, Goebbels, and Mengele. Someone says, but why? Killing three Nazis changes little.
He explains 'justice' and they reply 'still not enough' so he says 'they are very bad people who lead others into wickedness, and greatly increase the power of evil' and killing them 'will encourage others to be less wicked'.
These are very bad people who not only have done evil, but will continue to do so, and will strongly fight in a conspiracy against good, and will strengthen the hand of ordinary wickedoers.
Icing them is antibiotics.
Posted by: Eric2 at July 14, 2025 06:12 PM (HMtpY)
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MI6 loves them some sex stuff. Always have. Look at the kompromat they cooked up on Trump! peeing hookers.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:12 PM (g47mK)
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Ghislaine Maxwell, the former girlfriend and madame to the late Jeffrey Epstein, is willing to testify before Congress about the Epstein Files, the Daily Mail reported Monday, citing "sources."
Yeah, I'll blab till the cows come home or until I commit 'suicide'.
-Ghislaine Maxwell
Yeah, I'll blab till the cows come home or until I commit 'suicide'.
-Ghislaine Maxwell
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 06:12 PM (LHPAg)
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This is not "MAGA frustration" it's a huge Democratic/anti-Trump op, similar to others designed to break up the administration and peel Trump loose from his base.
I don't know any actual, non-bot Trump supporters that had Epstein as their Number One Issue in 2024.
I don't know any actual, non-bot Trump supporters that had Epstein as their Number One Issue in 2024.
Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 06:12 PM (vXpHP)
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contemplate why you are now on the same side of an issue as one of our most virulent and nasty trolls, who has never missed a lie to repeat.
Or not.
I'm sure this time the left is of pure motives.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:10 PM (JThEY)
It doesn't matter what the trolls intentions are or which side they decide to take on any issue.
Why should that sway our thinking about something?
"Well, I can't say that our loud or I'm going to be accused of sounding like a troll" is not a great logical argument for why someone should feel a certain way about an issue.
It reminds me of the "we can't talk about the COVID vax side effects, because it'll cause people to not take the vax, so it's a noble lie" nonsense line of reasoning we all hated from the left.
Or not.
I'm sure this time the left is of pure motives.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:10 PM (JThEY)
It doesn't matter what the trolls intentions are or which side they decide to take on any issue.
Why should that sway our thinking about something?
"Well, I can't say that our loud or I'm going to be accused of sounding like a troll" is not a great logical argument for why someone should feel a certain way about an issue.
It reminds me of the "we can't talk about the COVID vax side effects, because it'll cause people to not take the vax, so it's a noble lie" nonsense line of reasoning we all hated from the left.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:12 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (/y8xj)
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LOL ok as an aside: the popcorn bucket for the upcoming Naked Gun movie is... a stuffed beaver
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (dfIr7)
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I am disinclined to trust anyone on this issue.
If you make promises, keep them. That's how you build trust.
I do suspect there is an icky reason why the full Epstein story isn't being put out there...and I don't just mean flight logs or contact lists, I mean the whole thing about his career, connections and death.
But I'm not about to give the Progs a win by getting worked up. Plus our newest trolls makes me really question how passionate I should be.
If you make promises, keep them. That's how you build trust.
I do suspect there is an icky reason why the full Epstein story isn't being put out there...and I don't just mean flight logs or contact lists, I mean the whole thing about his career, connections and death.
But I'm not about to give the Progs a win by getting worked up. Plus our newest trolls makes me really question how passionate I should be.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (xcxpd)
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161 LOL ok as an aside: the popcorn bucket for the upcoming Naked Gun movie is... a stuffed beaver
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (dfIr7)
nice
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (dfIr7)
nice
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 06:14 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:14 PM (2yoRf)
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If releasing the Epstein files causes the US to be in a weaker position and nobody is getting indicted let alone jailed I'm not sure why that is a good thing.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:05 PM (viF8m)
Why anyone would trust our government to prioritize US interests over IC interests given the very long history of IC misdeeds is a mystery to me. "Because Trump" is manifestly an inadequate answer given that he is certainly not master of our IC anymore than prior presidents were, and possibly less so given his outsider status.
Given the country's track record, I'm not going to take Trump's word for it. At any rate, he's not really asking me to either. He has not made the case, or even asserted there are national security issues that override defanging the IC here. He's just asserted there's nothing to see here, which as near as I can tell no one really believes.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:05 PM (viF8m)
Why anyone would trust our government to prioritize US interests over IC interests given the very long history of IC misdeeds is a mystery to me. "Because Trump" is manifestly an inadequate answer given that he is certainly not master of our IC anymore than prior presidents were, and possibly less so given his outsider status.
Given the country's track record, I'm not going to take Trump's word for it. At any rate, he's not really asking me to either. He has not made the case, or even asserted there are national security issues that override defanging the IC here. He's just asserted there's nothing to see here, which as near as I can tell no one really believes.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:14 PM (TdYBy)
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Mmm. Icing.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:15 PM (2yoRf)
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Elon had the Twitter files. He gave Matt Tabai and some other chick total acces to the twitter data bases and emails and let them look and report.
Do the same thing with this. For the sake of arguement, give Matt Tabai a security clearance up to TS-SCI and let him look at the files. He can report on what he learns.
He obviously doesn't post the actual child porn, but reports on it and who is or isn't found on it and what the current files show.
Do the same thing with this. For the sake of arguement, give Matt Tabai a security clearance up to TS-SCI and let him look at the files. He can report on what he learns.
He obviously doesn't post the actual child porn, but reports on it and who is or isn't found on it and what the current files show.
Posted by: EFG at July 14, 2025 06:15 PM (6Y7N9)
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>>I only voted for him Three Times. But if there are no Johns ? Why is she in jail ?
Because she was convicted of trafficking kids to EPSTEIN. That's it. That's all. There was nobody else part of that trial.
Because she was convicted of trafficking kids to EPSTEIN. That's it. That's all. There was nobody else part of that trial.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)
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161 LOL ok as an aside: the popcorn bucket for the upcoming Naked Gun movie is... a stuffed beaver
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (dfIr7)
But is it the biggest one you’ve ever seen?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (dfIr7)
But is it the biggest one you’ve ever seen?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 14, 2025 06:16 PM (TJLr1)
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>>> 162 I am disinclined to trust anyone on this issue.
If you make promises, keep them. That's how you build trust.
I do suspect there is an icky reason why the full Epstein story isn't being put out there...and I don't just mean flight logs or contact lists, I mean the whole thing about his career, connections and death.
But I'm not about to give the Progs a win by getting worked up. Plus our newest trolls makes me really question how passionate I should be.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (xcxpd)
This too.
If you make promises, keep them. That's how you build trust.
I do suspect there is an icky reason why the full Epstein story isn't being put out there...and I don't just mean flight logs or contact lists, I mean the whole thing about his career, connections and death.
But I'm not about to give the Progs a win by getting worked up. Plus our newest trolls makes me really question how passionate I should be.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 06:13 PM (xcxpd)
This too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:16 PM (ULPxl)
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Whatever priority Epstein has it's only Number One for his mother.
Posted by: DaveA at July 14, 2025 06:16 PM (FhXTo)
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Epstein! Epstein! Epstein!
Posted by: Jan Brady at July 14, 2025 06:16 PM (wVcYX)
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Well! Because of Trump's failure to act, I am now a full-fledged supporter of the Democratic Party!
Good! Bye!
*slams door*
Well! Because of Trump's failure to act, I am now a full-fledged supporter of the Democratic Party!
Good! Bye!
*slams door*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 06:17 PM (HZi96)
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I am of the opinion that anyone that really really believed that Federal law enforcement and/or the intel agencies would actually be able to throw open the books on the Epstein affair and expose everyone and everything (or even anything remotely approaching that level) about it are seriously naive.
I'm the LAST person that wants to appear to be defending the FBI, CIA, or any other three-letter out there but please folks give me a damn break. There are undoubtedly *actual* Sources and Methods included, as well as god only knows what kind of written accounts, photos, etc. of the disgusting shit that went down on Little St. James and elsewhere. None of that is going to be released, ever.
We're still sitting on the JFK and MLK stuff decades later. Please don't seriously think the Epstein stuff is going to just be broadcast on the internet for all of us to see. It's just not going to happen, and trying to hold Trump's feet to the fire over it is dumb as shit. We have way better stuff to worry about than a dead pervert.
I'm the LAST person that wants to appear to be defending the FBI, CIA, or any other three-letter out there but please folks give me a damn break. There are undoubtedly *actual* Sources and Methods included, as well as god only knows what kind of written accounts, photos, etc. of the disgusting shit that went down on Little St. James and elsewhere. None of that is going to be released, ever.
We're still sitting on the JFK and MLK stuff decades later. Please don't seriously think the Epstein stuff is going to just be broadcast on the internet for all of us to see. It's just not going to happen, and trying to hold Trump's feet to the fire over it is dumb as shit. We have way better stuff to worry about than a dead pervert.
Posted by: ballistic at July 14, 2025 06:17 PM (01DnR)
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Liam Neeson has a certain set of skills. Comedy is not one of them.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 14, 2025 06:17 PM (PiwSw)
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this whole thing is 90% sensationalism, with very little factual information
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:17 PM (g47mK)
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Because she was convicted of trafficking kids to EPSTEIN. That's it. That's all. There was nobody else part of that trial.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)
Here we go again Jack. Did he fuck them all ? There's a bunch of them.
I doubt he did. But you do this thing. You defend the first part, then you'll go and start blabbing that "well of course it was CIA" when you feel like you can go to the second part.
And then, when that's all shown to be bullshit, you'll just pretend you said nothing.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)
Here we go again Jack. Did he fuck them all ? There's a bunch of them.
I doubt he did. But you do this thing. You defend the first part, then you'll go and start blabbing that "well of course it was CIA" when you feel like you can go to the second part.
And then, when that's all shown to be bullshit, you'll just pretend you said nothing.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (kOKqg)
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Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 06:17 PM (HZi96)
****
Heh. Reminds me of the conserned Christian conservatives of yore.
Good day, Sir!
****
Heh. Reminds me of the conserned Christian conservatives of yore.
Good day, Sir!
Posted by: EFG at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (6Y7N9)
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Why do you constantly have a bone to pick, a little side comment to defend this or that woman, every time a woman gets called out ?
We do dump on women pretty hard here, just like if a board was 90% women they would bash on men really hard too. And to be honest, we usually are just saying "some women are awful" not "alla you women are awful!!!"
We do dump on women pretty hard here, just like if a board was 90% women they would bash on men really hard too. And to be honest, we usually are just saying "some women are awful" not "alla you women are awful!!!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (dfIr7)
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>>> 165
==
Why anyone would trust our government to prioritize US interests over IC interests given the very long history of IC misdeeds is a mystery to me. "Because Trump" is manifestly an inadequate answer given that he is certainly not master of our IC anymore than prior presidents were, and possibly less so given his outsider status.
Given the country's track record, I'm not going to take Trump's word for it. At any rate, he's not really asking me to either. He has not made the case, or even asserted there are national security issues that override defanging the IC here. He's just asserted there's nothing to see here, which as near as I can tell no one really believes.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:14 PM (TdYBy)
Yes and yes. He's done a lot that I am quite happy with only five months in. Some challenges are bigger than others...
==
Why anyone would trust our government to prioritize US interests over IC interests given the very long history of IC misdeeds is a mystery to me. "Because Trump" is manifestly an inadequate answer given that he is certainly not master of our IC anymore than prior presidents were, and possibly less so given his outsider status.
Given the country's track record, I'm not going to take Trump's word for it. At any rate, he's not really asking me to either. He has not made the case, or even asserted there are national security issues that override defanging the IC here. He's just asserted there's nothing to see here, which as near as I can tell no one really believes.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:14 PM (TdYBy)
Yes and yes. He's done a lot that I am quite happy with only five months in. Some challenges are bigger than others...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (ULPxl)
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127 I did not vote for the list.
Well I sure as shit did. If there is child trafficking going on ? I don't give a damn about tax rates.
Release the names. Or let Maxwell out. One or the other.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kOKqg)
Sir/Madam/Trans...I certainly did vote to stop child trafficking. Which I think is mostly, now, drug cartels and mules at the Southern border with illegals. Pedos are being caught from their child porn watching that are not illegals. It is happening in the news daily.
Do not presume how I feel about child trafficking and child abuse. I have seen abuse first hand in an emergency department.
What went on with Epstein was pure evil, but FIRST I want my country, my children and my grandchildren protected from illegals here right now. Deportation is key. I also want strong military and men with the guts to stand up to Iran.
I did read the Qchan stuff over the years. I am not an idiot. I despise the Clintons and would love to see them perp walked for this.
However there are much more important things President Trump is doing right now, and has done, and will do. I am pragmatic, not an hysteric or one reason voter.
Well I sure as shit did. If there is child trafficking going on ? I don't give a damn about tax rates.
Release the names. Or let Maxwell out. One or the other.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kOKqg)
Sir/Madam/Trans...I certainly did vote to stop child trafficking. Which I think is mostly, now, drug cartels and mules at the Southern border with illegals. Pedos are being caught from their child porn watching that are not illegals. It is happening in the news daily.
Do not presume how I feel about child trafficking and child abuse. I have seen abuse first hand in an emergency department.
What went on with Epstein was pure evil, but FIRST I want my country, my children and my grandchildren protected from illegals here right now. Deportation is key. I also want strong military and men with the guts to stand up to Iran.
I did read the Qchan stuff over the years. I am not an idiot. I despise the Clintons and would love to see them perp walked for this.
However there are much more important things President Trump is doing right now, and has done, and will do. I am pragmatic, not an hysteric or one reason voter.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (6PCLE)
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Marxist kilt Epstein because Trump is more dangerous to the Dems.
Remember what trick, tricky Trump had done on the bombers and Iran.
Remember what trick, tricky Trump had done on the bombers and Iran.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 14, 2025 06:20 PM (PxJue)
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Well I sure as shit did. If there is child trafficking going on ? I don't give a damn about tax rates.
Then you should be thrilled to death that this administration is dealing with more than quarter million sex trafficked illegal aliens children brought into this country by Mayorkas and Company from 2020 until 2025.
Unlike Epstein, they just flat out kill the children once the girls get pregnant or too worn out.
Then you should be thrilled to death that this administration is dealing with more than quarter million sex trafficked illegal aliens children brought into this country by Mayorkas and Company from 2020 until 2025.
Unlike Epstein, they just flat out kill the children once the girls get pregnant or too worn out.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 06:20 PM (kHd4y)
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Klamath River Accord calls for the halt of new dams, supports removal efforts
https://t.co/LEzKU2nYjW
Rios to Rivers, a nonprofit organization, said in a press release that the call to action is for dam removals and a halt to new construction of dams across the globe.
IThe Accord commits its signatories to protect free-flowing rivers, oppose the construction of new dams, support dam removal as a climate solution, support river restoration, and uphold Indigenous rights
“With this Accord, we reject the contamination generated by hydroelectric dams like those that had been on the Klamath River that could also occur on our Bolivian Amazon rivers and tributaries,” said Radamir Sevillanos, of a rural Quechua Community in Bolivia. “This Symposium shows us that hydroelectric dams do not generate clean energy, as governments and international organizations say they do.”
https://t.co/LEzKU2nYjW
Rios to Rivers, a nonprofit organization, said in a press release that the call to action is for dam removals and a halt to new construction of dams across the globe.
IThe Accord commits its signatories to protect free-flowing rivers, oppose the construction of new dams, support dam removal as a climate solution, support river restoration, and uphold Indigenous rights
“With this Accord, we reject the contamination generated by hydroelectric dams like those that had been on the Klamath River that could also occur on our Bolivian Amazon rivers and tributaries,” said Radamir Sevillanos, of a rural Quechua Community in Bolivia. “This Symposium shows us that hydroelectric dams do not generate clean energy, as governments and international organizations say they do.”
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 14, 2025 06:20 PM (9aVck)
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Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (R0B/a)
Anyone who argues with this pedo (chemjeff, probably) should be banned.
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 05:54 PM (R0B/a)
Anyone who argues with this pedo (chemjeff, probably) should be banned.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:20 PM (I5cyP)
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Jack Tapper, former eunuch, has his balls back, baby!
Jack Tapper, former eunuch, has his balls back, baby!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (XeTAE)
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btw, if Bongino is, indeed, a whiny bitch, then he should be fired.
If he can't keep his clickbait big fucking mouth shut, he needs to go.
btw, if Bongino is, indeed, a whiny bitch, then he should be fired.
If he can't keep his clickbait big fucking mouth shut, he needs to go.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (I5cyP)
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However there are much more important things President Trump is doing right now, and has done, and will do. I am pragmatic, not an hysteric or one reason voter.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (6PCLE)
Well ... when it comes to "hide the international kiddy trade syndicate that's so important we have to hide it" ?
Call me a One Issue Voter. Fuck Trump if that's not on his agenda.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (6PCLE)
Well ... when it comes to "hide the international kiddy trade syndicate that's so important we have to hide it" ?
Call me a One Issue Voter. Fuck Trump if that's not on his agenda.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (kOKqg)
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Yes and yes. He's done a lot that I am quite happy with only five months in. Some challenges are bigger than others...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (ULPxl)
I don't see the options as binary. The decision here isn't to support Trump on everything or on nothing.
We're far better off with Trump than without. But this stinks, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I'm not going to do the Team Red thing.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (ULPxl)
I don't see the options as binary. The decision here isn't to support Trump on everything or on nothing.
We're far better off with Trump than without. But this stinks, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I'm not going to do the Team Red thing.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (TdYBy)
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Well, I guess some of you are much more okay with being lied to your faces about intel assets who pimp out underaged girls to our elected officials to be used as blackmail material on behest of our CIA and deep state than others are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (uCjyK)
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Catturd ™ @catturd2 Jul 13
Goodnight everyone - my advice is to mute or block all negative black pill accounts. It’s amazing how successful the first six months of the Trump administration has been.
Don’t let these sourpuss chronic complainers highjack your happiness.
Be positive. We’re winning.
Have a great Saturday night.
Jul 13, 2025 · 1:45 PM UTC
Taco Troubadour @troubadour210 Jul 13
2nd prize for worst response to this Epstein situation goes to…
Read the comments. Catturd is cooked. What a buffoon.
ADAM @AdameMedia Jul 13
The depth of his hypocrisy is stunning.
https://tinyurl.com/c9njdrrm
screencaps
Goodnight everyone - my advice is to mute or block all negative black pill accounts. It’s amazing how successful the first six months of the Trump administration has been.
Don’t let these sourpuss chronic complainers highjack your happiness.
Be positive. We’re winning.
Have a great Saturday night.
Jul 13, 2025 · 1:45 PM UTC
Taco Troubadour @troubadour210 Jul 13
2nd prize for worst response to this Epstein situation goes to…
Read the comments. Catturd is cooked. What a buffoon.
ADAM @AdameMedia Jul 13
The depth of his hypocrisy is stunning.
https://tinyurl.com/c9njdrrm
screencaps
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (2yoRf)
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Epstein was an "Intelligence" tool until he became a liability. Of course they were not going to let any real evidence to fall into the wrong hands. They assassinated a sitting president and covered it up for Pete's sake. This isn't their first rodeo folks.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (V362x)
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (GE2M1)
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Ok, so nukes for everyone then?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (Yamow)
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It doesn't matter what the trolls intentions are or which side they decide to take on any issue.
Why should that sway our thinking about something?
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Because there is no better indicator that you are being manipulated.
That maybe what you think you know about the issue isn't the truth at all.
Keep in mind:
100% of everything you "know" about the issue, has been filtered through those with an agenda.
You may chose to believe none, some or all of it.
But, none of it is your own personal knowledge.
But you should also be willing to admit you're being manipulated, especially when those with a keen interest in manipulating you to benefit the left chime in.
A lot of what we "know" about Epstein is speculation.
Discussing whether speculation should be accepted as fact doesn't mean, "OMG, you want pedos to go free!"
Why should that sway our thinking about something?
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Because there is no better indicator that you are being manipulated.
That maybe what you think you know about the issue isn't the truth at all.
Keep in mind:
100% of everything you "know" about the issue, has been filtered through those with an agenda.
You may chose to believe none, some or all of it.
But, none of it is your own personal knowledge.
But you should also be willing to admit you're being manipulated, especially when those with a keen interest in manipulating you to benefit the left chime in.
A lot of what we "know" about Epstein is speculation.
Discussing whether speculation should be accepted as fact doesn't mean, "OMG, you want pedos to go free!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (JThEY)
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The question I have is how did Epstein become a billionaire? Seriously, what skills did he demonstrate that caused huge amounts of money to flow into his bank accounts. Who paid him? And for what?
If it wasn't for running underage girls, what did transfer all that money to him.
Remember the lesson of Enron - if you can't figure out how somebody made their money - there is a crime involved.
If it wasn't for running underage girls, what did transfer all that money to him.
Remember the lesson of Enron - if you can't figure out how somebody made their money - there is a crime involved.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (Da7Vv)
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>>Here we go again Jack. Did he fuck them all ? There's a bunch of them.
There were 5 counts Scogg. Go look at the court records and stop insisting your hot take, the same one that has been repeated here about 100 times in the last few days, is somehow a gotcha.
Yes, there were more victims. And some of them apparently don't want to uproot their new lives to bring this thing back into the public eye. They spent years rebuilding their lives and just want to get on with it. But very few victims came forward. If something like that happened to you 20 years ago and now you had your own family and job and life would you absolutely want to go through all that in public again? Not everyone does. It happens every single day.
So stop asking the same question over and over when the answer is in the court records.
There were 5 counts Scogg. Go look at the court records and stop insisting your hot take, the same one that has been repeated here about 100 times in the last few days, is somehow a gotcha.
Yes, there were more victims. And some of them apparently don't want to uproot their new lives to bring this thing back into the public eye. They spent years rebuilding their lives and just want to get on with it. But very few victims came forward. If something like that happened to you 20 years ago and now you had your own family and job and life would you absolutely want to go through all that in public again? Not everyone does. It happens every single day.
So stop asking the same question over and over when the answer is in the court records.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (viF8m)
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However there are much more important things President Trump is doing right now, and has done, and will do. I am pragmatic, not an hysteric or one reason voter.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (6PCLE)
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Well said.
However there are much more important things President Trump is doing right now, and has done, and will do. I am pragmatic, not an hysteric or one reason voter.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:18 PM (6PCLE)
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Well said.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (tT6L1)
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Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (kOKqg)
And I'm sick of Fags like you with you new names all the time.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (kOKqg)
And I'm sick of Fags like you with you new names all the time.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (I5cyP)
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175 Liam Neeson has a certain set of skills. Comedy is not one of them.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 14, 2025 06:17 PM (PiwSw)
I'm prepared to wait and see. Maybe he can pull it off. It has that dissonance that Leslie Nielsen had when he first did Airplane.
What he CAN'T do anymore is action. The man is old and tired.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 14, 2025 06:17 PM (PiwSw)
I'm prepared to wait and see. Maybe he can pull it off. It has that dissonance that Leslie Nielsen had when he first did Airplane.
What he CAN'T do anymore is action. The man is old and tired.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (xcxpd)
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No one is going to openly defend child prostitution
Oh you sweet, sweet summer child
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (GE2M1)
*barney frank has entered the chat*
Probably also a large number of the tranny and gay activists.
Oh you sweet, sweet summer child
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (GE2M1)
*barney frank has entered the chat*
Probably also a large number of the tranny and gay activists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (Yamow)
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (AOsQT)
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201 No one is going to openly defend child prostitution
Oh you sweet, sweet summer child
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (GE2M1)
*barney frank has entered the chat*
Probably also a large number of the tranny and gay activists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (Yamow)
Denny Hastert also comes to mind.
Oh you sweet, sweet summer child
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (GE2M1)
*barney frank has entered the chat*
Probably also a large number of the tranny and gay activists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (Yamow)
Denny Hastert also comes to mind.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:24 PM (TdYBy)
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FBI has announced a formal investigation into long term government miss conduct.
The scuttle butt is Matt Gaetz to be appointed Special Prosecutor
From John Solomon at justthenews
https://tinyurl.com/zcar2ua9
The scuttle butt is Matt Gaetz to be appointed Special Prosecutor
From John Solomon at justthenews
https://tinyurl.com/zcar2ua9
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 06:24 PM (uEWUd)
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There were 5 counts Scogg.
You do this fucking constantly. Seriously. Do you really think he only recruited five girls and only screwed five girls himself ?
Jack - even you are not that fucking high.
You do this fucking constantly. Seriously. Do you really think he only recruited five girls and only screwed five girls himself ?
Jack - even you are not that fucking high.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:24 PM (kOKqg)
Posted by: Izzy Mandelbaum Jr. at July 14, 2025 06:24 PM (2yoRf)
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They couod handled this better even forrest gump knows that honestly though whos gonna force out pam bondi
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 14, 2025 06:25 PM (bXbFr)
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But you should also be willing to admit you're being manipulated, especially when those with a keen interest in manipulating you to benefit the left chime in.
A lot of what we "know" about Epstein is speculation.
Discussing whether speculation should be accepted as fact doesn't mean, "OMG, you want pedos to go free!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (JThEY)
I've been following this situation closely from the beginning. I lived near Epstein in NYC (in a much smaller residency, unfortunately).
I don't watch the news, don't have twitter, and don't spend a whole lot of time scrolling on CNN.com or whatever. I'm not being manipulated by "the left" here.
Yes, everything is obviously sketchy, it was reported third hand by the lying media. Trump said he would release everything, clearing up any misunderstandings.
Half of his cabinet said the same thing, and demanded those files get released.
Now on a dime it's "there are no files, nothing happened, shut up, it was a long time ago."
And I'm the one being manipulated here?
A lot of what we "know" about Epstein is speculation.
Discussing whether speculation should be accepted as fact doesn't mean, "OMG, you want pedos to go free!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:22 PM (JThEY)
I've been following this situation closely from the beginning. I lived near Epstein in NYC (in a much smaller residency, unfortunately).
I don't watch the news, don't have twitter, and don't spend a whole lot of time scrolling on CNN.com or whatever. I'm not being manipulated by "the left" here.
Yes, everything is obviously sketchy, it was reported third hand by the lying media. Trump said he would release everything, clearing up any misunderstandings.
Half of his cabinet said the same thing, and demanded those files get released.
Now on a dime it's "there are no files, nothing happened, shut up, it was a long time ago."
And I'm the one being manipulated here?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:26 PM (uCjyK)
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Website: The Daily Epstein
Every day leak more stuff.
Every day leak more stuff.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 06:26 PM (DoOmQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:26 PM (viF8m)
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Just to be clear, para 1 and the rest are about two different topics. One is how it works. The rest is why its important to get rid of the scum. Not even remotely trying to say Ace is in any club.
Posted by: Eric2 at July 14, 2025 06:26 PM (HMtpY)
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That Tucker fellow sure is some kind of twat, isn't he?
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (1Gsou)
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Again, if this is not the hill you are willing to die on, then which hill are you willing to die on and why that and not this?
Posted by: Any Sense of Humanity? Bueller? Bueller? at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (0DnHq)
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (JL0Wh)
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It's 2016 all over again.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (63Dwl)
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213 That Tucker fellow sure is some kind of twat, isn't he?
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (1Gsou)
Makes you wonder why he really got fired from Fox.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (1Gsou)
Makes you wonder why he really got fired from Fox.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:28 PM (JL0Wh)
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I agree with Trump and Bondi. By now any evidence is so messed with or old or unreliable it's not worth pursuing, considering the risk. So being named will shame the bad guys? It will also shame the good guys wrongly accused, or the ladies who didn't want their past revealed. And the original accuser is dead, so what do people want?
It's not worth the sacrifice of Trump's whole agenda.
It's not worth the sacrifice of Trump's whole agenda.
Posted by: Imma Bad Person at July 14, 2025 06:28 PM (RRCAT)
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"Because Trump" is manifestly an inadequate answer given that he is certainly not master of our IC anymore than prior presidents were, and possibly less so given his outsider status.
There was Bush 41, who was the US Liason to China before becoming the CIA director who then became Reagan's baby-sitter before taking the Oval office for himself and the IC.
There was Bush 41, who was the US Liason to China before becoming the CIA director who then became Reagan's baby-sitter before taking the Oval office for himself and the IC.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 06:28 PM (kHd4y)
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How many angels can dance on a pin is a more exciting philosophical question than how many kids did the pedophile rape.
I always wonder if this type of question is asked to be able to 'win' because trying to argue the point is highly distasteful. It's like area denial.
I always wonder if this type of question is asked to be able to 'win' because trying to argue the point is highly distasteful. It's like area denial.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 06:28 PM (Yamow)
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I'm ambivalent on her work so far, but she could do herself a small favor and stop running her mouth on Fox News every 10 minutes writing checks she can't cash.
Posted by: DBCoooper at July 14, 2025 06:28 PM (rTDdr)
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No, but apparently you are that stupid.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:26 PM (viF8m)
Oh ... since we've reached the "insult" part of the program ? Fuck You and your Rhode Island High as a Kite ass. Seriously. Fuck everything so far South that you can't sail down her anyway, and one of us would punch you in your mouthy mouth if you did.
And Fuck You, if you didn't get the memo.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:26 PM (viF8m)
Oh ... since we've reached the "insult" part of the program ? Fuck You and your Rhode Island High as a Kite ass. Seriously. Fuck everything so far South that you can't sail down her anyway, and one of us would punch you in your mouthy mouth if you did.
And Fuck You, if you didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (kOKqg)
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The man is old and tired.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (xcxpd)
"Let's face it, I'm tired!" Lili Von Schtupp
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 06:23 PM (xcxpd)
"Let's face it, I'm tired!" Lili Von Schtupp
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (1Gsou)
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Also goes for New Jersey. Pretty much everything Yankee.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (kOKqg)
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Oh wait. I call bullshit on post 205. The statue of limitations runs out in a few weeks.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (uEWUd)
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That Tucker fellow sure is some kind of twat, isn't he?
Kinda seems that way. He is being paid by some very shady individuals and I think he does what he's paid to do. Even when a couple years ago he was doing some good work his personal annoyed me with the squeaky voice and those mannerisms
Kinda seems that way. He is being paid by some very shady individuals and I think he does what he's paid to do. Even when a couple years ago he was doing some good work his personal annoyed me with the squeaky voice and those mannerisms
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (dfIr7)
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I'm fine with the truth coming out, whatever it is. I disagree with those who say that questions must not be asked lest Trump be undermined.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (TwZXH)
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Did you know that the State of Washington is spending $25 million on a program to provide housing solely for illegal immigrants?
Whoops - I meant "asylum seekers"!
There are no words.
Whoops - I meant "asylum seekers"!
There are no words.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 14, 2025 06:30 PM (xTIDn)
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Oh ... since we've reached the "insult" part of the program ? Fuck You and your Rhode Island High as a Kite ass. Seriously. Fuck everything so far South that you can't sail down her anyway, and one of us would punch you in your mouthy mouth if you did.
And Fuck You, if you didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (kOKqg)
Don't MAKE me come back there.....
Seriously, put a sock in it.
And Fuck You, if you didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (kOKqg)
Don't MAKE me come back there.....
Seriously, put a sock in it.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 06:30 PM (1Gsou)
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Drag a candy bar through an elementary school...
Posted by: Lizard Face Carville at July 14, 2025 06:30 PM (dR6yv)
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Out of curiosity, who do people think is fighting all of those cases in court including the win at the SC today?
We only have one DOJ.
We only have one DOJ.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:30 PM (viF8m)
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Tell us a story that makes sense or dont leave a silly memo
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 14, 2025 06:30 PM (bXbFr)
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>>> 189
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I don't see the options as binary. The decision here isn't to support Trump on everything or on nothing.
We're far better off with Trump than without. But this stinks, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I'm not going to do the Team Red thing.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (TdYBy)
I think we mostly agree. I think the "list" is a bit like W blabbing about ObL - ending that guy wouldn't have ended jihadi imperialism - but then Trump and crew probably shouldn't have made such a big deal about said list, should they?? Epstein is a symptom / example of bigger ongoing problems and *if* Trump is successful I expect it will take longer than pretty much anything else he's trying to do.
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I don't see the options as binary. The decision here isn't to support Trump on everything or on nothing.
We're far better off with Trump than without. But this stinks, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I'm not going to do the Team Red thing.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (TdYBy)
I think we mostly agree. I think the "list" is a bit like W blabbing about ObL - ending that guy wouldn't have ended jihadi imperialism - but then Trump and crew probably shouldn't have made such a big deal about said list, should they?? Epstein is a symptom / example of bigger ongoing problems and *if* Trump is successful I expect it will take longer than pretty much anything else he's trying to do.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:30 PM (ULPxl)
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Tucker is drinking again.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:31 PM (g47mK)
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Kinda seems that way. He is being paid by some very shady individuals and I think he does what he's paid to do. Even when a couple years ago he was doing some good work his personal annoyed me with the squeaky voice and those mannerisms
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (dfIr7)
The man has had like 4 different careers as 4 different characters in my lifetime. And his acting is terrible, his fake laugh made me swear off cable TV forever.
Anyways, that's neither here nor there.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:29 PM (dfIr7)
The man has had like 4 different careers as 4 different characters in my lifetime. And his acting is terrible, his fake laugh made me swear off cable TV forever.
Anyways, that's neither here nor there.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 06:31 PM (uCjyK)
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How can anyone believe that the Epstein scandal involves Trump or is even Trump-adjacent? That would be the sexiest chicken the Dems ever saw cross the road. The Dems would have done unspeakable things to that chicken. Sailors who witnessed the Dems actions would have dropped dead in horror.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (MMp6W)
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Makes you wonder why he really got fired from Fox.
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He got fired from most places he worked. If not all.
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He got fired from most places he worked. If not all.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (g47mK)
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>>Oh ... since we've reached the "insult" part of the program ? Fuck You
Apparently you are even too stupid to know you started it.
And fuck you too, trailer trash.
Apparently you are even too stupid to know you started it.
And fuck you too, trailer trash.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (viF8m)
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I am watching The Incredibles.
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (lqnbT)
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Nood and not Epstein.
Nood and not Epstein.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (XeTAE)
Posted by: an epstein client videoed with Miss Conduct but not blackmailed at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (2yoRf)
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TuCa has talent as a broadcaster and interviewer but I think is moral compass is a desk fan.
Posted by: ballistic at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (01DnR)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (u73oe)
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144 Release the names. Or let Maxwell out. One or the other.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kOKqg)
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Horseshit posts like this one showing up here now are obviously paid agitation from the left, trying to weaken Trump politically with his base.
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So someone should serve 20 years for trafficking minors to people who don’t exist. Got it.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kOKqg)
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Horseshit posts like this one showing up here now are obviously paid agitation from the left, trying to weaken Trump politically with his base.
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So someone should serve 20 years for trafficking minors to people who don’t exist. Got it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (ImXfC)
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Apparently you are even too stupid to know you started it.
And fuck you too, trailer trash.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (viF8m)
You two need to have your heads knocked together.
And fuck you too, trailer trash.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (viF8m)
You two need to have your heads knocked together.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (1Gsou)
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I want to see the release of 40 years of Epstein's financial transactions. Every account, every trade, every tax form, every deposit and withdrawal.
Posted by: Don at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (H9FpV)
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238 Makes you wonder why he really got fired from Fox.
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He got fired from most places he worked. If not all.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (g47mK)
But I'm betting he let his inner Hitler slip in front of the boss.
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He got fired from most places he worked. If not all.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (g47mK)
But I'm betting he let his inner Hitler slip in front of the boss.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 14, 2025 06:33 PM (JL0Wh)
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As if they would trust naftali with anything important he was one of the four place holders that kept bibi out of the prime ministership
Vicky ward wouldnt know the truth if sat on her
Vicky ward wouldnt know the truth if sat on her
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (bXbFr)
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I guess Carlson reinventing himself as neo-Goebbels might work for a bit, but I am not sure of a long term success of such a proposition.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (g47mK)
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And fuck you too, trailer trash.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (viF8m)
And fuck you especially because we'd all eat your fucking ass ... not in the way you'd like ... if you ever showed up in the trailer. You weak ass high Yankee.
You and CBD are the only reasons I ever consider burning points to go to a Mo Mee.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 06:32 PM (viF8m)
And fuck you especially because we'd all eat your fucking ass ... not in the way you'd like ... if you ever showed up in the trailer. You weak ass high Yankee.
You and CBD are the only reasons I ever consider burning points to go to a Mo Mee.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (kOKqg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:35 PM (kOKqg)
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Nood and not Epstein.
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You can't prove that in a court of law!!!!
His face was covered!!!!
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You can't prove that in a court of law!!!!
His face was covered!!!!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 06:35 PM (2yoRf)
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It was a self inflicted wound
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 14, 2025 06:35 PM (bXbFr)
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IDK, I just can't get worked up over this.
I know that everything we see in the media about child sex trafficking is the Disney cartoon sanitized version.
That the horrible shit our rich and powerful do to children daily is far, far more disgusting than you want to imagine.
Stomach-wrenching disgusting.
And that, even with iron-clad, impeccable documented proof, most of America will refuse to believe whatever Epstein did was real.
Some, because it's too horrific.
Others, because it's against their political team.
I mean, we went how many weeks with Democrats claiming Trump "staged" the Butler shooting?
But, there is a Guy who is going to sort this all out in His time and He put Trump where he is today.
I know that everything we see in the media about child sex trafficking is the Disney cartoon sanitized version.
That the horrible shit our rich and powerful do to children daily is far, far more disgusting than you want to imagine.
Stomach-wrenching disgusting.
And that, even with iron-clad, impeccable documented proof, most of America will refuse to believe whatever Epstein did was real.
Some, because it's too horrific.
Others, because it's against their political team.
I mean, we went how many weeks with Democrats claiming Trump "staged" the Butler shooting?
But, there is a Guy who is going to sort this all out in His time and He put Trump where he is today.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 06:36 PM (JThEY)
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Call me a One Issue Voter. Fuck Trump if that's not on his agenda.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (kOKqg)
I mostly call you a troll shit stirrer hysteric. I doubt you vote at all from mummy's basement.
I don't need to defend what I feel about child porn, child abuse, or child trafficking. No one here needs to defend that as we feel exactly as you do,but without the hysterics.
Child traffickers daily are being caught and prosecuted. Child porn addicts as well. Those who kidnap and rape are being caught.They are being watched and arrested from online intel. Illegal bastard immigrants who do this and more are being deported daily. This is the tip of the iceberg. And the USA is doing far more for this horror than any country in the world.
YOU, nor the other shit stirrers don't have all the intel. Therefore your screeching is pointless.
Call me a One Issue Voter. Fuck Trump if that's not on his agenda.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:21 PM (kOKqg)
I mostly call you a troll shit stirrer hysteric. I doubt you vote at all from mummy's basement.
I don't need to defend what I feel about child porn, child abuse, or child trafficking. No one here needs to defend that as we feel exactly as you do,but without the hysterics.
Child traffickers daily are being caught and prosecuted. Child porn addicts as well. Those who kidnap and rape are being caught.They are being watched and arrested from online intel. Illegal bastard immigrants who do this and more are being deported daily. This is the tip of the iceberg. And the USA is doing far more for this horror than any country in the world.
YOU, nor the other shit stirrers don't have all the intel. Therefore your screeching is pointless.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 06:37 PM (6PCLE)
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>>> 214 Again, if this is not the hill you are willing to die on, then which hill are you willing to die on and why that and not this?
Posted by: Any Sense of Humanity? Bueller? Bueller? at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (0DnHq)
Just like I've been saying about the commie filth shrieking for the "right" tohelp transition mutilate children, I would be happy to help these higher-level criminal scumbags die on this hill.
Posted by: Any Sense of Humanity? Bueller? Bueller? at July 14, 2025 06:27 PM (0DnHq)
Just like I've been saying about the commie filth shrieking for the "right" to
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 06:37 PM (ULPxl)
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You and CBD are the only reasons I ever consider burning points to go to a Mo Mee.
Posted by: Let Us Call Bullshit at July 14, 2025 06:34 PM (kOKqg)
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Greetings and salutations, kOKqg.
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Blaire White is interviewing a victim right now, but she wasn't a minor when she met Epstein.
Blaire White is interviewing a victim right now, but she wasn't a minor when she met Epstein.
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So Vox Day is back on Twitter/X and going after Scott Adam's? Almost makes me wish I had Twitter, since that should be an interesting train wreck. The fact that a group of insane people and charlatans--Vox, Tucker, Musk, Bannon, Loomer, etc.--have made the List their pet obsession should give us a little pause, I think. Also, can we please stop using the "raped kids" rhetoric? It's a dishonest fudging of the lines; there has been nothing to indicate that Epstein's victims were prepubescent children--i.e., actual kids; they appear to have been teenage girls, many "barely legal," but all pubescent, and tbey were apparently groomed into the life, recruited others sometimes, and were allowed to leave the island if they wouldn't play Epstein's games, which is vile and evil and disgusting enough, but not quite the same level of depravity as abducting totally innocent little kids off the street and rapng them in a dungeon, which is what the overheated rhetoric implies. By using that rhetoric we're validating the leftist bullshit about how anyone under the legal age of minority is a "child" with no agency or responsibility for himself or herself.
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237 How can anyone believe that the Epstein scandal involves Trump or is even Trump-adjacent? That would be the sexiest chicken the Dems ever saw cross the road. The Dems would have done unspeakable things to that chicken. Sailors who witnessed the Dems actions would have dropped dead in horror.
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DeSantis is a Deep State stooge ... give it up Ace
Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 14, 2025 07:06 PM (DBAaD)
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I suspect many people took part in the Epstein circles.. Where did there go? The whole underground clenched lip gang is alive and well still doing whatever it is they do from satanic parties to cooking people to messing with kids??? They are all very active still. They aren't going to give up the new Biden delivery of 300k minors.. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 07:09 PM (uEWUd)
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Maybe someone has dirt on Bondi.
Prolly got drunk at a frat party and let Sigma Cum Cumstein have their way..
Prolly got drunk at a frat party and let Sigma Cum Cumstein have their way..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 07:11 PM (uEWUd)
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and Trump has pushed it as a story.
This is really the problem. He played it up (as did his team), and fed it to the people as red meat, and made promises based on it. But he didn't KNOW. He assumed, like so many, and rode it hard. If he had been less Trumpian about it, it wouldn't now be such an exploitable moment. Even more importantly, he should have insisted his people not be Trumpian about it.
This is really the problem. He played it up (as did his team), and fed it to the people as red meat, and made promises based on it. But he didn't KNOW. He assumed, like so many, and rode it hard. If he had been less Trumpian about it, it wouldn't now be such an exploitable moment. Even more importantly, he should have insisted his people not be Trumpian about it.
Posted by: GWB at July 14, 2025 07:16 PM (+4DHB)
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Even more importantly, he should have insisted his people not be Trumpian about it.
Posted by: GWB at July 14, 2025 07:16 PM (+4DHB)
He underestimated the number of rabid invalids who have been fantasizing for years that Epstein is their key to proving that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is totally real.
Word has also seemingly circulated among the commies that there's nothing to incriminate them so they're all busy playing up the whole "What's Trump got to hide? He must be a pedo!" bit.
And the nutjobs are eating it all up saying every single member of Trump's administration must be compromised or in on the "cover-up".
This is all a perfect example of why the nuts need to be told they are retarded and to shut up instead of indulging their insanity.
Posted by: GWB at July 14, 2025 07:16 PM (+4DHB)
He underestimated the number of rabid invalids who have been fantasizing for years that Epstein is their key to proving that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is totally real.
Word has also seemingly circulated among the commies that there's nothing to incriminate them so they're all busy playing up the whole "What's Trump got to hide? He must be a pedo!" bit.
And the nutjobs are eating it all up saying every single member of Trump's administration must be compromised or in on the "cover-up".
This is all a perfect example of why the nuts need to be told they are retarded and to shut up instead of indulging their insanity.
Posted by: Sjg at July 14, 2025 07:36 PM (aqZN1)
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So if Obama, Hillary, Comey, etc. made up these files and all these other attacks, would it be fair to say they committed "crimes"? The sort of thing that people can be punished for?
Posted by: ChrisW at July 14, 2025 07:39 PM (rLfcT)
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The O'Biden team doctored the Epstein files. All that's left is p3do pr0n.
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Roman Polanski served 0 time in prison after pleading guilty to ped0. OJ served 0 time for murder. Name a powerful person serving prison time for anything- I'll wait. Trump knows that if he releases the list, the only thing that happens is billionaires moving to non- extradition countries. So wouldn't it make more sense for Trump to use the list to pressure them to get on board with MAGA. Hey! Have you noticed how many former adversaries are now cozy with Trump? How od.....
Posted by: Scott Ballard at July 14, 2025 09:38 PM (dFIlg)
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how come no one is mentioning Prince Andrew?
Come on....there's your proof.
Come on....there's your proof.
Posted by: jb at July 14, 2025 10:03 PM (S5VtI)
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At this point I trust Trumps instincts like usual. This(Epstein) was a squirrel moment to disrupt Trump and his economic priorities which are anti-globalist; there are trillions at stake. It is also intended to fracture his coalition.
Blob chicanery.
Blob chicanery.
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"but I am considering that we are on the verge of a violent civil war so I'm willing to let lesser agenda items slide for the purposes of remaining unified in the face of insurrectionary leftwing violence."
-- I get it Ace, but part of the reason we are where we are is because of stuff like this, where we're basically made 2nd class citizens, while our overclass can happily go about banging kids and be protected from consequences.
I 100% agree with you that Trump thinks he has good reasons to not release, but that's not good enough. Most likely, one or more intelligence agencies enabled this child-banging ring as a blackmail/control op, and that shit isn't acceptable.
-- I get it Ace, but part of the reason we are where we are is because of stuff like this, where we're basically made 2nd class citizens, while our overclass can happily go about banging kids and be protected from consequences.
I 100% agree with you that Trump thinks he has good reasons to not release, but that's not good enough. Most likely, one or more intelligence agencies enabled this child-banging ring as a blackmail/control op, and that shit isn't acceptable.
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Supreme Court Okays Trump's Restructuring of the Department of Education, Clearing the Way for 1,400 Firings
In a significant victory for the Trump administration, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of President Donald Trump's push to overhaul the Department of Education, allowing the termination of nearly 1,400 federal employees. The decision clears the way for Trump's long-promised effort to rein in what many conservatives see as a bloated, unaccountable bureaucracy that pushes left-wing agendas.
Advertisement In an unsigned decision, the Supreme Court temporarily set aside a lower court's ruling that had stopped President Trump's plan from taking effect. This means the plan can proceed for now, even as the legal battle over it continues. Three liberal justices opposed the order, and the court halted an order from U.S. District Judge Myong Joun in Boston, who had blocked the layoffs and challenged the overall plan. Judge Joun warned that the layoffs "will likely cripple the department." However, a federal appeals court declined to pause his order while the administration pursued its appeal. Justice Sonia Sotomayor argued that the majority effectively gave Trump the authority to undo laws passed by Congress simply by dismissing the employees responsible for enforcing them.
Sotomayor's dissent: The Supreme Court must impose a no-firing rule on federal bureaucrats, forever. Once a Democrat hires them, they can never be let go. It's in The Constitution (TM), you see.
On Friday, State Department "workers" applauded each other as they were escorted from the building. Note that Trump is mostly just rolling back Biden's hiring bonanza. It was embarrassing. No one else acts like this when they're fired. They really believe they have a right to cushy, no-show federal jobs fucking up the world for everyone else.
A State Department employee shared with PBS News an image from inside the department. The image includes a piece of paper taped to a mirror with the words, "Colleagues, if you remain: RESIST FASCISM. Remember the oath you vowed to uphold."
— PBS News (@NewsHour) July 11, 2025
The State Department is firing around… pic.twitter.com/iq8Geg9p3s
One thing I never realized until I moved to the DC area is the absolutely insane amount of people who think they are entitled to a job in government - forever.
— Meghan McCain (@MeghanMcCain) July 12, 2025
It is part of the rot in DC and they need a reality check about how the actual world works. https://t.co/ZPDOpW91oJ
NOW: Inside the State Dept, a gut-wrenching farewell as career diplomats — some who’ve served for decades — are laid off and clapped out by teary-eyed colleagues. Hugs, sobs, and dignity in the face of government failure. #StateDept #PublicService pic.twitter.com/ziIGeoQoTi
— Rylie Nhel Conol (@ConolNhel46) July 12, 2025
The liberal women at @StateDept just realized their women’s studies masters are no longer valuable https://t.co/a1VJ8hlWTY pic.twitter.com/Fl8tqAB85x
— NOVA Campaigns (@NoVA_Campaigns) July 11, 2025
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Ace, this isn't showing up on the main page.
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 04:33 PM (NQHDP)
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First?
Posted by: IS ROTH at July 14, 2025 04:34 PM (4Gf1M)
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Drat
Posted by: IS ROTH at July 14, 2025 04:34 PM (4Gf1M)
Posted by: IS ROTH at July 14, 2025 04:34 PM (4Gf1M)
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Ace, this isn't showing up on the main page.
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 04:33 PM (NQHDP)
In fairness, nothing is showing up on the main page.
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 04:33 PM (NQHDP)
In fairness, nothing is showing up on the main page.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 04:34 PM (ExV1e)
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Well, plenty of time to read the content.
Posted by: IS ROTH at July 14, 2025 04:35 PM (4Gf1M)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 04:36 PM (uCjyK)
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Someone broke the main page...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 04:37 PM (N1DT3)
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"Colleagues, if you remain: RESIST FASCISM. Remember the oath you vowed to uphold."
Do tell. Would love to hear about this secret oath.
Do tell. Would love to hear about this secret oath.
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 04:37 PM (NQHDP)
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Someone broke the main page...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 04:37 PM (N1DT3)
Sometimes, Ace's cruelty hits heights hitherto unknown to man and we are all punished for it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 04:37 PM (N1DT3)
Sometimes, Ace's cruelty hits heights hitherto unknown to man and we are all punished for it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 04:38 PM (ExV1e)
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I feel like it's probably unwise to comment here ... in this limbo
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Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 04:38 PM (Pv3Rg)
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We back. Ace saved us from the white out!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 04:38 PM (6PCLE)
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Inside the State Dept, a gut-wrenching farewell as career diplomats — some who’ve served for decades — are laid off and clapped out by teary-eyed colleagues.
Gut wrenching? I think they mean gut-busting. It's hilarious.
Gut wrenching? I think they mean gut-busting. It's hilarious.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 04:38 PM (lIio7)
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There is a glitch in the Matrix.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 04:38 PM (wVcYX)
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I feel like it's probably unwise to comment here ... in this limbo
Main page is back so we're cool.
Main page is back so we're cool.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (ExV1e)
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>>>Many people are asking, rhetorically, why the media is spiraling over 1,300 Deep State Groomers being fired while barely blinking at Microsoft's layoffs of 9,000.
Well, at least the laid government workers won't be replaced by H1B visa holders.
Probably.
Maybe they will, who knows at this point?
Well, at least the laid government workers won't be replaced by H1B visa holders.
Probably.
Maybe they will, who knows at this point?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (uCjyK)
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The media doesn't even shriek about their own pinkslips like they're shrieking about their Deep State sources being fired.
Posted by: Ace at 04:30 PM
They know this is the hill to die on. The deep state is where they have unmitigated power.
Posted by: Ace at 04:30 PM
They know this is the hill to die on. The deep state is where they have unmitigated power.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (N1DT3)
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good thing that trash was fired
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (g47mK)
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I'm thinking one of Ace's shelves fell off the wall and unplugged the server.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (5QMT6)
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What a bunch of whiny little crybaby bitches.
...oh, and these stupid twatwaffles think they're going to threaten *us*???
...oh, and these stupid twatwaffles think they're going to threaten *us*???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (ULPxl)
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What a bunch of losers. Now get out and stay out!
Posted by: Fire All Of Them at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (rfMRc)
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It was embarrassing. No one else acts like this when they're fired.
They're crying because they're being banished to the world we live in- the one they created.
They're crying because they're being banished to the world we live in- the one they created.
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (NQHDP)
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Why does the media assume that laying off 1300 feds will galvanize the public against moves to reduce the size of the government workforce?
Do people take to the streets with a factory in the middle of bum-fuck Alabama closes down and lays off 1300 people?
Do people take to the streets with a factory in the middle of bum-fuck Alabama closes down and lays off 1300 people?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)
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They know this is the hill to die on. The deep state is where they have unmitigated power.
yeah also no company in the private sector would hire them
yeah also no company in the private sector would hire them
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 04:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
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>>> Colorado Prosecutors Let Registered Sex Offender Who Snatched 11‑Year‑Old Boy at Recess Walk Free — Charges Dropped After Competency Ruling
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The guy looks crinimally insane. Like if ever gets in reach of weapon he'll grab and start attacking or just chew peoples faces off.
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The guy looks crinimally insane. Like if ever gets in reach of weapon he'll grab and start attacking or just chew peoples faces off.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 04:41 PM (/lPRQ)
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Can we send *these* asshoes to South Sudan?
I guess we'd have to pay a lot more than $2000 / per.
I guess we'd have to pay a lot more than $2000 / per.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:41 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 04:41 PM (5QMT6)
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What exactly did these people do? Yes, I get that they advanced the agenda of leftist education, but it would be interesting to know what their daily work consisted of.
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Oh great. Get ready for another clown parade as the leave the building clutching a cardboard box filled with participation awards.
Posted by: Johnny Lanctot at July 14, 2025 04:42 PM (8EFMk)
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I see this stuff and I keep thinking about the way Twitter worked before Musk purchased the company - the deadwood staff that whiled away their time IMing, censoring, shopping, censoring, wasting time in the cafeterias, censoring, ...
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 04:42 PM (rj6Yv)
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>>> 24 They know this is the hill to die on. The deep state is where they have unmitigated power.
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yeah also no company in the private sector would hire them
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 04:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
They expect RESULTS!!!
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Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 04:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
They expect RESULTS!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:42 PM (ULPxl)
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Are you not entertained!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 04:42 PM (viF8m)
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So when Obama and then later Biden told ICE to stand down and not enforce immigration laws passed by Congress, where was she saying "Deport them suckers!"?
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They're crying because they're being banished to the world we live in- the one they created.
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (NQHDP)
They haven't realized that yet.
They truly believe they sacrificed a 7-figure salary in the private sector to "make a difference" as a "public servant."
They'll realize the truth at some point, but give that time.
They're crying now because they are delusional and think they are owed the power and "prestige" of the jobs they were just fired from.
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (NQHDP)
They haven't realized that yet.
They truly believe they sacrificed a 7-figure salary in the private sector to "make a difference" as a "public servant."
They'll realize the truth at some point, but give that time.
They're crying now because they are delusional and think they are owed the power and "prestige" of the jobs they were just fired from.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 04:42 PM (uCjyK)
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Did Elmo crash the page again?
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 14, 2025 04:43 PM (sFNX2)
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That was so scary.
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How will we enjoy the sweet tears if they get sucked up by the cardboard here's yer shit boxes.
Posted by: DaveA at July 14, 2025 04:43 PM (FhXTo)
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This is hilarious, can they do this everyday?
And remember our tax dollars also paid for their little craft projects, paper and ink isn't free and neither is the employee's time.
And remember our tax dollars also paid for their little craft projects, paper and ink isn't free and neither is the employee's time.
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>>It was embarrassing. No one else acts like this when they're fired.
Technically, I was fired once, I took it pretty well, I went down to the bar and waited for my Chief Engineer who "fired" me and told he hooked me up with a job.
And we had a couple of drinks and laughed.
Technically, I was fired once, I took it pretty well, I went down to the bar and waited for my Chief Engineer who "fired" me and told he hooked me up with a job.
And we had a couple of drinks and laughed.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 04:44 PM (XV/Pl)
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I gotta be honest this kind of headline pisses me off. The Supreme Court didn't okay jack shit. They recognized that the executive department has constitutional authority to hire and fire its personnel. The court does NOT have the power to permit or deny, only to recognize the law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:44 PM (dfIr7)
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Well, at least the laid government workers won't be replaced by H1B visa holders.
Probably.
Maybe they will, who knows at this point?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Teleworkers in New Delhi
Probably.
Maybe they will, who knows at this point?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 04:44 PM (/lPRQ)
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2 It was embarrassing. No one else acts like this when they're fired.
At least not in public. They may get somewhat upset-or if women- some may get tearful at home, but not doing big production numbers in their offices and hanging up virtue signaling signs.
At least not in public. They may get somewhat upset-or if women- some may get tearful at home, but not doing big production numbers in their offices and hanging up virtue signaling signs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 04:44 PM (2GCMq)
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You know what I would absolutely love?
I mean, besides that.
Cross reference the terminated employees with ICE.
I mean, besides that.
Cross reference the terminated employees with ICE.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 04:44 PM (5QMT6)
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23 Why does the media assume that laying off 1300 feds will galvanize the public against moves to reduce the size of the government workforce?
Do people take to the streets with a factory in the middle of bum-fuck Alabama closes down and lays off 1300 people?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)
No, they cheer about how it's going to reduce pollution, allow the company to "be more competitive globally", and how it will increase GDP because companies can get outsourced goods for cheaper.
And the 1300 recently laid off people get jobs at McDonalds or become fentanyl addicts, and their families fall in to a cycle of poverty.
Which is to be celebrated, because the company's stock price has never been better!
Do people take to the streets with a factory in the middle of bum-fuck Alabama closes down and lays off 1300 people?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)
No, they cheer about how it's going to reduce pollution, allow the company to "be more competitive globally", and how it will increase GDP because companies can get outsourced goods for cheaper.
And the 1300 recently laid off people get jobs at McDonalds or become fentanyl addicts, and their families fall in to a cycle of poverty.
Which is to be celebrated, because the company's stock price has never been better!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (uCjyK)
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Can we send *these* asshoes to South Sudan?
I guess we'd have to pay a lot more than $2000 / per.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:41 PM (ULPxl)
It would be a bargain at twice the price!
I guess we'd have to pay a lot more than $2000 / per.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:41 PM (ULPxl)
It would be a bargain at twice the price!
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (advWG)
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There was a layoff at my employer early last year and no, there was none of this shit going on there, even as woke as it was.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (ULPxl)
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I want a follow up story on where these people ended up and I want to see how much they're worth on the open market, without all the USAID graft.
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Now, who will teach the children the benefits of being a Homo ?????
Now, who will teach the children the benefits of being a Homo ?????
Posted by: Jack Meehoff at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (J7c+Z)
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It's because they're barely-literate, mostly unskilled, quasi-functioning retards who won't be able to find employment anywhere outside of their previously cozy federal sinecures, especially since USAID got demolished and the bullshit communist NGOs that might have hired them got their funding yanked.
Posted by: Daycare for adults at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (TbWk/)
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Experts on democracy and human rights?
Because what we really needed was advocates for a Constitutional Republic and people who had more than a passing notion of a Constitution which enshrined God Given Rights, not the imaginary extraordinary privileges of being confused about their own sex.
Because what we really needed was advocates for a Constitutional Republic and people who had more than a passing notion of a Constitution which enshrined God Given Rights, not the imaginary extraordinary privileges of being confused about their own sex.
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42 This is hilarious, can they do this everyday?
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This is about 32% of their total staff - almost typed workforce - so yeah, looks like there will be at least one more round.
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This is about 32% of their total staff - almost typed workforce - so yeah, looks like there will be at least one more round.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (2bFN5)
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a gut-wrenching farewell as career diplomats — some who’ve served for decades — are laid off and clapped out by teary-eyed colleagues. Hugs, sobs, and dignity in the face of government failure
I'll be in my bu....oh, I can't wait that long! Fap! Fap! Fap!!
I'll be in my bu....oh, I can't wait that long! Fap! Fap! Fap!!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (JCZqz)
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And they fired went running to PBS news.... Hey PBS... You're next
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (VE6XX)
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Welcome to Arby's, may I take your order?
Posted by: Fired Federal Worker At Their Next Job at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (rfMRc)
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Sometimes having the server is the bathroom is problematic.
Posted by: Hillary Rodham at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (G5+As)
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Given Meghan McCain's pedigree....
I really think she needs to shut up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025
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She's on our side on this one at least
I really think she needs to shut up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025
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She's on our side on this one at least
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (omVj0)
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The main page resists facism!
Posted by: NEA at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (63Dwl)
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From the last thread:
Speaking of tarantulas, I learned the other day that there is a species of tarantula with the taxonomic name Aphonopelma johnnycashi. It was discovered in 2015 near Folsom Prison in California, and the males are usually black, like the Man in black.
Thus, the specific epithet "johnnycashi."
Posted by: Bulg
Speaking of tarantulas, I learned the other day that there is a species of tarantula with the taxonomic name Aphonopelma johnnycashi. It was discovered in 2015 near Folsom Prison in California, and the males are usually black, like the Man in black.
Thus, the specific epithet "johnnycashi."
Posted by: Bulg
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)
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Colorado Prosecutors Let Registered Sex Offender Who Snatched 11‑Year‑Old Boy's festive little hat at Recess Walk Free — Charges Dropped After Competency Ruling
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (0zmu/)
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What exactly did these people do? Yes, I get that they advanced the agenda of leftist education, but it would be interesting to know what their daily work consisted of.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 04:41 PM (2GCMq)
Well given that Europe was convulsed in war with no discussion for three years, Europe is leaving democracy behind with fake elections, the Mideast is at war now, India and Pakistan almost had a nuclear war....
THEY SUCK AT THEIR JOB
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 04:41 PM (2GCMq)
Well given that Europe was convulsed in war with no discussion for three years, Europe is leaving democracy behind with fake elections, the Mideast is at war now, India and Pakistan almost had a nuclear war....
THEY SUCK AT THEIR JOB
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (8avO+)
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Looks like the Dunkin Donuts and Crumbl Cookie nearest the State Department took the hardest hit with those firings...
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (jGJov)
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The tribe has spoken. Your torch is snuffed out. There is no Redemption Island.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (wVcYX)
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Federal Dept of Ed instructs ZERO students.
Federal Department of Education is duplicated 50 times at the state level.
Federal Department of Education is duplicated 50 times at the state level.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (+bLMA)
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32 I see this stuff and I keep thinking about the way Twitter worked before Musk purchased the company - the deadwood staff that whiled away their time IMing, censoring, shopping, censoring, wasting time in the cafeterias, censoring, ...
this is .. honestly this is a lot of people
I used to ask other moms who were ALWAYS out and about - but claimed to be FT employees - were they part-time like me? but no they were full time! they might answer an email! that means working!
years of "working from home'. basically meant doing whatever, but they were reachable! they answered emails! ergo, working. somehow.
this is .. honestly this is a lot of people
I used to ask other moms who were ALWAYS out and about - but claimed to be FT employees - were they part-time like me? but no they were full time! they might answer an email! that means working!
years of "working from home'. basically meant doing whatever, but they were reachable! they answered emails! ergo, working. somehow.
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (Pv3Rg)
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57 42 This is hilarious, can they do this everyday?
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This is about 32% of their total staff - almost typed workforce - so yeah, looks like there will be at least one more round.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (2bFN5)
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It's like 2% of their staff.
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This is about 32% of their total staff - almost typed workforce - so yeah, looks like there will be at least one more round.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (2bFN5)
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It's like 2% of their staff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (GBKbO)
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Willowed:
By the way, for those who know him, John MacArthur is in the hospital with pneumonia and very unlikely to survive.
By the way, for those who know him, John MacArthur is in the hospital with pneumonia and very unlikely to survive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (dfIr7)
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Fact, once the federal department of education was *created* by executive order the scores of our kids in public school have plummeted while overall spending has skyrocketed.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (e5NfL)
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Executive is permitted to execute. Insurrectionary.
Executive is permitted to execute. Insurrectionary.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (rJVo4)
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Judge Joun warned that the layoffs "will likely cripple the department."
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Gist status:
gotten
X not gotten
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Gist status:
gotten
X not gotten
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (77rzZ)
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Given Meghan McCain's pedigree....
I really think she needs to shut up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025
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My kitten Dagny has a pedigree. She is also better looking than Meghan and "speaks" only when absolutely necessary.
Advantage: Dagny
I really think she needs to shut up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025
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My kitten Dagny has a pedigree. She is also better looking than Meghan and "speaks" only when absolutely necessary.
Advantage: Dagny
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (omVj0)
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Experts on democracy and human rights?
Because what we really needed was advocates for a Constitutional Republic and people who had more than a passing notion of a Constitution which enshrined God Given Rights, not the imaginary extraordinary privileges of being confused about their own sex.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (kHd4y)
They are supposed to be experts on other countries, not "human rights"
Because what we really needed was advocates for a Constitutional Republic and people who had more than a passing notion of a Constitution which enshrined God Given Rights, not the imaginary extraordinary privileges of being confused about their own sex.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (kHd4y)
They are supposed to be experts on other countries, not "human rights"
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (8avO+)
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Hope the applause will pay their bills. Or not.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (UjdFS)
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Government can't delay or deny educational opportunities?
Was Wide Latina awake during the COVID lockdowns?
Was Wide Latina awake during the COVID lockdowns?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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Speaking of little Dagny, she left the arm of the sofa . . . and climbed to the back of the couch right behind my head. I'm absurdly flattered.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (omVj0)
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72 Willowed:
By the way, for those who know him, John MacArthur is in the hospital with pneumonia and very unlikely to survive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (dfIr7)
And for those that don't know him he's in great health and continuing to thrive?
By the way, for those who know him, John MacArthur is in the hospital with pneumonia and very unlikely to survive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (dfIr7)
And for those that don't know him he's in great health and continuing to thrive?
Posted by: His flying elbow drop was legendary at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (TbWk/)
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One thing the US State Department has over the US Teachers Unions - State employees know how to spell "Fascism".
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (rj6Yv)
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Little Johnny still won't be able to add, subtract, form a complete sentence, or write intelligibly but, at least Little Johnny will have less commonest propaganda thrown at him and not learn how to suck another boys dick. Hopefully.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (/U5Yz)
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Might have been worse. Looks like they got nice, clean boxes to put their stapler in.
Posted by: Milton In The Basement at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (G5+As)
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A) All those State Department staffers standing there with their great show of love and support for the released employees -- can we do facial recognition on them and fire them, too, since they apparently have nothing better to do than stand around for a couple hours?
B) Trump should just have Treasury write a check to each State for the amount of Dept of Ed bucks they were supposed to receive, and then just close down the DC end of entirely. No money withheld, no federal strings on how it is to be spent, complete freedom from DC. What do those staffers in DC bring to the table that the States can't figure out on their own?
B) Trump should just have Treasury write a check to each State for the amount of Dept of Ed bucks they were supposed to receive, and then just close down the DC end of entirely. No money withheld, no federal strings on how it is to be spent, complete freedom from DC. What do those staffers in DC bring to the table that the States can't figure out on their own?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (bufu1)
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Yee haw
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (kuteN)
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My kitten Dagny has a pedigree. She is also better looking than Meghan and "speaks" only when absolutely necessary.
Advantage: Dagny
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (omVj0)
all of mine do too, now.
Advantage: Dagny
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (omVj0)
all of mine do too, now.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (8avO+)
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Thus, the specific epithet "johnnycashi."
Posted by: Bulg
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)
That is bad ass.
Thus, the specific epithet "johnnycashi."
Posted by: Bulg
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)
That is bad ass.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (fGmWu)
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Yeah I do really want someone to honestly answer what it is, exactly, the Department of Education does. I know it takes money from people at gunpoint and hands it to schools around the country but what, exactly does it do?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (dfIr7)
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Learn to coal.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (NaR/G)
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Well, the world needs garbage truck operators and ditch diggers too.............
Or as George Patton said...... "You could be shoving Shit in Louisiana".....
Or as George Patton said...... "You could be shoving Shit in Louisiana".....
Posted by: Jack Meehoff at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (J7c+Z)
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@4 no
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (kuteN)
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Bureaucratic Teachers are the Real Heroes.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (W3T6M)
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Welcome to Arby's, may I take your order?
Posted by: Fired Federal Worker At Their Next Job at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (rfMRc)
Arby serves.....and I use this term in the broadest sense possible....meat which everyone of these now unemployed "civil" servants will tell you is causing climate change and destabilizing all 8,000,000 democracies in the world so....no.
Posted by: Fired Federal Worker At Their Next Job at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM (rfMRc)
Arby serves.....and I use this term in the broadest sense possible....meat which everyone of these now unemployed "civil" servants will tell you is causing climate change and destabilizing all 8,000,000 democracies in the world so....no.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (8yx7s)
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Re: that poster. Oh no, bureaucrats in the wild! Whatever shall we do now? Actually, now that I type that, it kind of sounds like an Asylum* flick.
(* the fine cinematic artistes who brought you Sharknado)
(* the fine cinematic artistes who brought you Sharknado)
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (/y8xj)
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And remember our tax dollars also paid for their little craft projects, paper and ink isn't free and neither is the employee's time.
The wording for that sign probably required a lengthy all hands catered meeting with ice breakers, grief counselors and team building exercises ... Maybe even a motivational speaker
The wording for that sign probably required a lengthy all hands catered meeting with ice breakers, grief counselors and team building exercises ... Maybe even a motivational speaker
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (kHd4y)
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Before COVID I had to drive through a rich blue town to get to work.
And I noticed whenever I drove through the town - getting in late, leaving earlier, or the normal 9-5, most of the houses had two cars in the driveway.
Must be nice to be old money...and then try and tax the people that actually work to death.
And I noticed whenever I drove through the town - getting in late, leaving earlier, or the normal 9-5, most of the houses had two cars in the driveway.
Must be nice to be old money...and then try and tax the people that actually work to death.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (t0Rmr)
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I'm suddenly not hot for teacher...
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 11.1% at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (jvJvP)
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I just read the whole Sotomayor dissent so you don't have to.
1) It sure looks like she basically copied the brief of the plaintiffs; the first 11 of the 19 pages are merely a recitation of the factual stance and history of the suit. Much of the rest of the dissent repeats that.
2) There's one cite to the Constitution; the Take Care Clause. Zero cites to any caselaw discussing that clause. For good reason.
They have to avoid the key holding of the seminal case: Unless Congress specifically directed the Executive how to act, with no discretion, then the courts have no authority to review. Which also includes not spending the money.
3) She, once again, whines about granting Trump emergency relief. Contra her own eagerness to grant emergency relief against Trump.
4) That the 6-3 majority, once again, does not write an opinion, is to me another in a long line of " we're getting real tired of this shit."
5) reading between the lines of "why" the majority didn't is the glaring, "because you wrote a shit-ass ruling, with multiple jurisdictional, precedential, procedural and constitutional defects--fix it." Which Soto tries to band-aid.
1) It sure looks like she basically copied the brief of the plaintiffs; the first 11 of the 19 pages are merely a recitation of the factual stance and history of the suit. Much of the rest of the dissent repeats that.
2) There's one cite to the Constitution; the Take Care Clause. Zero cites to any caselaw discussing that clause. For good reason.
They have to avoid the key holding of the seminal case: Unless Congress specifically directed the Executive how to act, with no discretion, then the courts have no authority to review. Which also includes not spending the money.
3) She, once again, whines about granting Trump emergency relief. Contra her own eagerness to grant emergency relief against Trump.
4) That the 6-3 majority, once again, does not write an opinion, is to me another in a long line of " we're getting real tired of this shit."
5) reading between the lines of "why" the majority didn't is the glaring, "because you wrote a shit-ass ruling, with multiple jurisdictional, precedential, procedural and constitutional defects--fix it." Which Soto tries to band-aid.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (JThEY)
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And for those that don't know him he's in great health and continuing to thrive?
Ignorance is bliss!
Ignorance is bliss!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (dfIr7)
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ades — are laid off and clapped out by teary-eyed colleagues. Hugs, sobs, and dignity in the face of government failure
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Decades? Then they'll have plenty of money put by. They'll be okay.
(Heh, heh, heh . . .)
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Decades? Then they'll have plenty of money put by. They'll be okay.
(Heh, heh, heh . . .)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (omVj0)
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>>> 90 Yeah I do really want someone to honestly answer what it is, exactly, the Department of Education does. I know it takes money from people at gunpoint and hands it to schools around the country but what, exactly does it do?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (dfIr7)
I'd like to know how much of the money allocated to it really does go to "schools around the country", instead of going into their employees' direct deposit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (dfIr7)
I'd like to know how much of the money allocated to it really does go to "schools around the country", instead of going into their employees' direct deposit.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM (ULPxl)
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Although liberal men are just as weak, I can't help but notice that all the pictures are of wailing women...
"Conan, what is best in life?"
"Conan, what is best in life?"
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (N1DT3)
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90 Yeah I do really want someone to honestly answer what it is, exactly, the Department of Education does. I know it takes money from people at gunpoint and hands it to schools around the country but what, exactly does it do?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (dfIr7)
Like most of the federal government -- god only knows.
Emails, meetings, conferences, I would guess.
Some people probably do paperwork. There are probably a handful of people working really hard, but the vast majority just kind of... ya know, do stuff.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (dfIr7)
Like most of the federal government -- god only knows.
Emails, meetings, conferences, I would guess.
Some people probably do paperwork. There are probably a handful of people working really hard, but the vast majority just kind of... ya know, do stuff.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (uCjyK)
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Speaking of little Dagny, she left the arm of the sofa . . . and climbed to the back of the couch right behind my head. I'm absurdly flattered.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (omVj0)
Its also warmer!
cats can be practical and affectionate.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:48 PM (omVj0)
Its also warmer!
cats can be practical and affectionate.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)
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This requires a line dance. As the canned employees from the Kennedy Center showed us, this can all be handled by effeminate ex-employees hoofing it along the sidewalk to some weird tune.
On the other hand, this would have been a great opportunity for a "flash mob" to do a nice rendition of Supertramp's "Goodbye Stranger."
On the other hand, this would have been a great opportunity for a "flash mob" to do a nice rendition of Supertramp's "Goodbye Stranger."
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (dIske)
108
Yeah that's the way to keep your job, by saying you will resist the lawfully elected administration.
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (YwEeS)
109
Note that Trump is mostly just rolling back Biden's hiring bonanza.
Only a small fraction of that. Numbers I saw yesterday said Biden pumped another 11,000 people into the State Department during his pResidency and Trump's only firing 1,400.
Only a small fraction of that. Numbers I saw yesterday said Biden pumped another 11,000 people into the State Department during his pResidency and Trump's only firing 1,400.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (/HDaX)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (kHd4y)
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I'd like to know how much of the money allocated to it really does go to "schools around the country", instead of going into their employees' direct deposit.
Or to teacher unions
Or to teacher unions
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (dfIr7)
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I am enjoying the videos due to knowing they are all bleeding heart, TDS, liberals. My favorite so far was the faggot in the cardigan weeping on the lady with flowers. I am assuming the people clapping are not laid off...probably secretly clapping for this reason.
I was laid off one time as a RN. From a great job created for me, paying very well with bonuses, on my youngest son's 10th birthday. It was done sort of semi-nicely, and the reason was not mine because MD's and ARNP's were also laid off with me due to finances of the leader going kaput. I had a few tears in my car as I drove home. Mostly because we had just signed a contract to build a new house. However, being a redneck who rarely cries, I got it together for my baby's birthday and they saw no tears at all. I drew unemployment for that summer where we hit the beach and I self taught myself watercolors. I then got a new job and life went on to better things (eventually, to much better jobs).
I cannot believe, or, rather, yeah, I do believe the drama as they are all about wailing, tears, snot and drama. Get it together! I'd be at the end of the clappers slapping them and telling them to man up! Twits!
I was laid off one time as a RN. From a great job created for me, paying very well with bonuses, on my youngest son's 10th birthday. It was done sort of semi-nicely, and the reason was not mine because MD's and ARNP's were also laid off with me due to finances of the leader going kaput. I had a few tears in my car as I drove home. Mostly because we had just signed a contract to build a new house. However, being a redneck who rarely cries, I got it together for my baby's birthday and they saw no tears at all. I drew unemployment for that summer where we hit the beach and I self taught myself watercolors. I then got a new job and life went on to better things (eventually, to much better jobs).
I cannot believe, or, rather, yeah, I do believe the drama as they are all about wailing, tears, snot and drama. Get it together! I'd be at the end of the clappers slapping them and telling them to man up! Twits!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (6PCLE)
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Yes I'm applauding government employees departing for the Dreaded Public Sector. What of it?
I would also give them a wee shove and a light kick in the ass, if it were helpful.
I would also give them a wee shove and a light kick in the ass, if it were helpful.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (wBaIH)
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I'm currently sitting on my sister's back porch, watching the corn grow and birds fly around. A whole world away from Babylon DC. I have often warned the Babylon DC denzians (and I'm one) that it is a bubble but nobody there listens. Once outside that bubble, at best, you'll get indifference. I'm enjoying my time away from that circus of malignant retards. Went golfing this morning. I played like someone who hasn't played golf in over a year.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (EM0uu)
115
When you have lost Meghan McCain you have really lost the plot.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (unUNN)
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Look at the security cam footage and fire everyone that put up the signs and anyone that appeared to agree with them...heck just fire them all.
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (YwEeS)
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109 Note that Trump is mostly just rolling back Biden's hiring bonanza.
Only a small fraction of that. Numbers I saw yesterday said Biden pumped another 11,000 people into the State Department during his pResidency and Trump's only firing 1,400.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (/HDaX)
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One of the funniest things about Trump's early months was the return to work directive and suddenly there being far too many employees for the available parking spaces and desks in the government buildings.
Only a small fraction of that. Numbers I saw yesterday said Biden pumped another 11,000 people into the State Department during his pResidency and Trump's only firing 1,400.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (/HDaX)
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One of the funniest things about Trump's early months was the return to work directive and suddenly there being far too many employees for the available parking spaces and desks in the government buildings.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (GBKbO)
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Seeing the weeping former government employees I am reminded of Oscar Wilde " one would have to have a heart of stone to not laugh"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Yeah I do really want someone to honestly answer what it is, exactly, the Department of Education does. I know it takes money from people at gunpoint and hands it to schools around the country but what, exactly does it do?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (dfIr7)
Mostly just interfere. In theory they design lesson plans and such but the only educational idea since Homer's Iliad and Odyssey has seemed like garbage.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:49 PM (dfIr7)
Mostly just interfere. In theory they design lesson plans and such but the only educational idea since Homer's Iliad and Odyssey has seemed like garbage.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (8avO+)
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Speaking of tarantulas, I learned the other day that there is a species of tarantula with the taxonomic name Aphonopelma johnnycashi. It was discovered in 2015 near Folsom Prison in California, and the males are usually black, like the Man in black.
Thus, the specific epithet "johnnycashi."
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Should've named it Sue.
Thus, the specific epithet "johnnycashi."
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Should've named it Sue.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (L/fGl)
121
On the upside, however, Trump just got the go ahead to fire half of the Department of Education.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (/HDaX)
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i can't believe the opinions that the three communist justices put out. none are based on law but on their feels and what a terrible person trump is.
FEELZ OVER THE LAW.
FEELZ OVER THE LAW.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (17s+e)
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Shut the whole Department of Education down! This is just the beginning!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (NWqJf)
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I was RIF'ed by Clinton. Was i supposed to call him a fascist?
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (DoOmQ)
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107 This requires a line dance. As the canned employees from the Kennedy Center showed us, this can all be handled by effeminate ex-employees hoofing it along the sidewalk to some weird tune.
On the other hand, this would have been a great opportunity for a "flash mob" to do a nice rendition of Supertramp's "Goodbye Stranger."
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM
Lol
On the other hand, this would have been a great opportunity for a "flash mob" to do a nice rendition of Supertramp's "Goodbye Stranger."
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM
Lol
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (fGmWu)
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All these little 110 lb Pecker heads that may be male on their birth certificates will now have to do some manual labor to earn the minimum wage and enjoy OBAMACARE...
Posted by: Allotta Fagina at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (aKoaI)
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At this rate, the only State employees left will be those guys with the shaved heads, ex-military (mostly) working in the 'stans.
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (rj6Yv)
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So if we don’t have a majority at the SC, no republican would ever be allowed to fire a single government worker from an executive agency
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (g0oCT)
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Only a small fraction of that. Numbers I saw yesterday said Biden pumped another 11,000 people into the State Department during his pResidency and Trump's only firing 1,400.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (/HDaX)
We can find seats for them in El Salvador for just 3000 a year!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 14, 2025 04:51 PM (/HDaX)
We can find seats for them in El Salvador for just 3000 a year!
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (8avO+)
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Maybe some of them will show up for a new OrangeManBad REE protest this Thursday:
https://shorturl.at/fEk50
I hope none of them try to block traffic in FL or OK.
https://shorturl.at/fEk50
I hope none of them try to block traffic in FL or OK.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (17s+e)
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Out of all those childish signs the lefties put up, the one blocking the mirror and telling people to resist fascism is the most ironic. Yes, you cannot see yourself in the mirror as you read this....
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (dfIr7)
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Education, like law enforcement, is a state function. Why did we ever need the Fed's to get involved?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (W3T6M)
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I was RIF'ed by Clinton. Was i supposed to call him a fascist?
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (DoOmQ)
You have a lot of public weeping plus interest to get out of the way.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 04:53 PM (DoOmQ)
You have a lot of public weeping plus interest to get out of the way.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:55 PM (8avO+)
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"Colleagues, if you remain: RESIST FASCISM. Remember the oath you vowed to uphold."
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And if they do resist they will be next out the door. They are not the bosses, they are servants, it's in the name of their profession - public servant. The bosses are the voters.
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And if they do resist they will be next out the door. They are not the bosses, they are servants, it's in the name of their profession - public servant. The bosses are the voters.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 04:55 PM (unUNN)
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I hope none of them try to block traffic in FL or OK.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (ULPxl)
Oh, I hope they do...
I hope none of them try to block traffic in FL or OK.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (ULPxl)
Oh, I hope they do...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 04:55 PM (VE6XX)
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OMG
Who oh who, will hold down all the chairs to keep them from floating away?
Who oh who, will hold down all the chairs to keep them from floating away?
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 04:55 PM (UjdFS)
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OT:
FLASHBACK: Gen Mark Milley said he would give China a heads up if the US was planning to attack, and had secret calls with China behind Trump’s back.
Treason.
NYT just confirmed his preemptive pardon was approved by a WH assistant and signed by autopen.
IT’S VOID
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If there is anyone I would like to see inspecting a hemp rope with his neck is Miley.
FLASHBACK: Gen Mark Milley said he would give China a heads up if the US was planning to attack, and had secret calls with China behind Trump’s back.
Treason.
NYT just confirmed his preemptive pardon was approved by a WH assistant and signed by autopen.
IT’S VOID
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If there is anyone I would like to see inspecting a hemp rope with his neck is Miley.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 04:55 PM (/U5Yz)
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We need a 7 figure amount of layoffs before I really feel like we are shrinking the bureaucracy
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 04:55 PM (g0oCT)
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Education, like law enforcement, is a state function. Why did we ever need the Fed's to get involved?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (W3T6M)
probably first to balance the rich state poor state imbalance. And it worked! All states have worse education than the poorest used to. Equality has been reached at last.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 04:54 PM (W3T6M)
probably first to balance the rich state poor state imbalance. And it worked! All states have worse education than the poorest used to. Equality has been reached at last.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:56 PM (8avO+)
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*uck em all. In the real working world they wouldn't have been hired in the first place.
Enjoy your staycation.
*uck em all. In the real working world they wouldn't have been hired in the first place.
Enjoy your staycation.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 14, 2025 04:56 PM (3ek7K)
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Mostly just interfere. In theory they design lesson plans and such but the only educational idea since Homer's Iliad and Odyssey has seemed like garbage.
Yeah but even if they were doing that... why does the federal government have a department of creating suggested lesson plans??
Yeah but even if they were doing that... why does the federal government have a department of creating suggested lesson plans??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:56 PM (dfIr7)
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And the most irritating thing about these now fired employees us how they would go on and on about how they are needed to carry on their "important" work. Look, if you have to tell me your work is important.....it isn't.
Do you see doctors running around telling you about their important work of saving people? No.
Do you see fire fighters telling you about their "important" work in putting out fires? No.
Do you see Ace talking about his important work in building shelves for the homeless ........
Do you see doctors running around telling you about their important work of saving people? No.
Do you see fire fighters telling you about their "important" work in putting out fires? No.
Do you see Ace talking about his important work in building shelves for the homeless ........
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2025 04:56 PM (8yx7s)
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Internet says Fedgov civilian employees (not counting USPS) by year:
2000: 1.8M
2008: 1.9M
2016: 2.1M
2020: 2.2M
2024: 2.4M
2000: 1.8M
2008: 1.9M
2016: 2.1M
2020: 2.2M
2024: 2.4M
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (t0Rmr)
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Get out.......>
No welfare for any of you slags and fags.
No welfare for any of you slags and fags.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (P0m9n)
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This is how you can tell that the overwhelming majority of federal bureaucrats are Democrats. If they were Republicans, the elected Democrats in DC would be rushing to have all of them fired.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (viF8m)
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There are over 80k State Department employees, that's 413 for every country on the planet.
Does Kraplakistan really merit 413 employees?
Does Kraplakistan really merit 413 employees?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (XV/Pl)
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In 1867, President Andrew Johnson signed legislation to create a Department of Education. It was seen as a way to collect information and statistics about the nation's schools and provide advice to schools in the same way the Department of Agriculture helped farmers.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (/U5Yz)
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I cannot believe, or, rather, yeah, I do believe the drama as they are all about wailing, tears, snot and drama. Get it together! I'd be at the end of the clappers slapping them and telling them to man up! Twits!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025
You're an adult and not a psychotic that thinks they're entitled to a government sinecure for life. You can tell these people have fantasies that they're really the deep state sticking it to Trump and the Magats.
I cannot believe, or, rather, yeah, I do believe the drama as they are all about wailing, tears, snot and drama. Get it together! I'd be at the end of the clappers slapping them and telling them to man up! Twits!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025
You're an adult and not a psychotic that thinks they're entitled to a government sinecure for life. You can tell these people have fantasies that they're really the deep state sticking it to Trump and the Magats.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (fGmWu)
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1400/4200 is MUCH better than that State Department layoff of 1300/80,000.
33% is much better than 2%
/math
33% is much better than 2%
/math
Posted by: scottst at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (PRdkL)
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Federal agents should have been outside checking their boxes, confiscating purloined office supplies, and cuffing the petty thieves.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (wzAuc)
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It. Moved.
Posted by: toby928 at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (LJPcY)
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Do you see Ace talking about his important work in building shelves for the homeless ........
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2025 04:56 PM (8yx7s)
No, but that was likely on the advice of legal counsel.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2025 04:56 PM (8yx7s)
No, but that was likely on the advice of legal counsel.
Posted by: Liability and all at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (TbWk/)
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Middle school mean girls have been in charge of our foreign policy for years.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (ZOv7s)
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Can we deport them, too?
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (6PCLE)
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When you have lost Meghan McCain you have really lost the plot Wegovy.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025
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Fixed that for you
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025
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Fixed that for you
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (omVj0)
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We need a 7 figure amount of layoffs before I really feel like we are shrinking the bureaucracy
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 04:55 PM (g0oCT)
I was about to up the numbers, and then realized that the total doesn't make it to 8 figures.
I guess that's acceptable, then.
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 04:55 PM (g0oCT)
I was about to up the numbers, and then realized that the total doesn't make it to 8 figures.
I guess that's acceptable, then.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (N1DT3)
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Oh no: it’s resist facism! Isn’t that how the educators spell it?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (NWqJf)
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One of the funniest things about Trump's early months was the return to work directive and suddenly there being far too many employees for the available parking spaces and desks in the government buildings.
Make me work from the office fine, but I'm still pulling my pud after lunch
Make me work from the office fine, but I'm still pulling my pud after lunch
Posted by: Some Fedgov Employee at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (t0Rmr)
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The US Department of Education under Linda E. McMahon has been doing some good work lately, going gangbusters against institutionalized DEI programs, men in womens sports, and education for illegals. Wrap up the 2025 budget allocations and shut it down.
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (rj6Yv)
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69 Federal Dept of Ed instructs ZERO students.
Federal Department of Education is duplicated 50 times at the state level.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM
Exactly what I was thinking!
Federal Department of Education is duplicated 50 times at the state level.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 04:46 PM
Exactly what I was thinking!
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (rbKZ6)
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I'm suddenly not hot for teacher...
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 11.1% at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM
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Suddenly unemployed ex government employee women are going to be hitting the bricks. It's a buyer's market.
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 11.1% at July 14, 2025 04:50 PM
****
Suddenly unemployed ex government employee women are going to be hitting the bricks. It's a buyer's market.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (DoOmQ)
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In 1867, President Andrew Johnson signed legislation to create a Department of Education. It was seen as a way to collect information and statistics about the nation's schools and provide advice to schools in the same way the Department of Agriculture helped farmers.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Live by the impeached President, die by the impeached President.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Live by the impeached President, die by the impeached President.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (77rzZ)
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Many people are asking, rhetorically, why the media is spiraling over 1,300 Deep State Groomers being fired while barely blinking at Microsoft's layoffs of 9,000.
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9000 Microsoft staff fired? Pfft, they are just hoi polloi, not patricians like DC staff. And that's why the DC staffers need to go back to whichever blue state they crawled out of.
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9000 Microsoft staff fired? Pfft, they are just hoi polloi, not patricians like DC staff. And that's why the DC staffers need to go back to whichever blue state they crawled out of.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (unUNN)
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145 Get out.......>
No welfare for any of you slags and fags.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (P0m9n)
Hags, slags, and fags
No welfare for any of you slags and fags.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (P0m9n)
Hags, slags, and fags
Posted by: Your federal workforce at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (TbWk/)
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Man, what a bunch of uggos.
I can't feel empathy for people this homely.
If they are going to be in public, they need paper sacks on their heads.
I can't feel empathy for people this homely.
If they are going to be in public, they need paper sacks on their heads.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (TdYBy)
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I'm BACK, baby!
Posted by: Funemployment at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (LJPcY)
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We won the Cold War and were told to go home. Fuck these twits.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (W3T6M)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (dfIr7)
Well, he's about 85 and has been a great pastor and preacher and teacher for a very long time. He's knows his Lord and while I wouldn't want him to suffer I don't doubt that he will go to God,
Well, he's about 85 and has been a great pastor and preacher and teacher for a very long time. He's knows his Lord and while I wouldn't want him to suffer I don't doubt that he will go to God,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (2GCMq)
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In 1867, President Andrew Johnson signed legislation to create a Department of Education. It was seen as a way to collect information and statistics about the nation's schools and provide advice to schools in the same way the Department of Agriculture helped farmers.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (/U5Yz)
Since the Ag Department in Conn. built boat ramps on golf courses I'd say you were right.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (/U5Yz)
Since the Ag Department in Conn. built boat ramps on golf courses I'd say you were right.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (8avO+)
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Notice their professional dress, likely worthy of their positions. 🫣
I say contractors because the DoE in DC were mostly all POCs and dressed beautifully for a day of meetings and lunch.
I say contractors because the DoE in DC were mostly all POCs and dressed beautifully for a day of meetings and lunch.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 04:59 PM (NFX2v)
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FLASHBACK: Gen Mark Milley said he would give China a heads up if the US was planning to attack, and had secret calls with China behind Trump’s back.
Treason.
NYT just confirmed his preemptive pardon was approved by a WH assistant and signed by autopen.
IT’S VOID
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If there is anyone I would like to see inspecting a hemp rope with his neck is Miley.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Good test case. Let him defend himself.
Treason.
NYT just confirmed his preemptive pardon was approved by a WH assistant and signed by autopen.
IT’S VOID
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If there is anyone I would like to see inspecting a hemp rope with his neck is Miley.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Good test case. Let him defend himself.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (/lPRQ)
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Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (xQYJA)
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9000 MSFT employees laid off: LEARN TO CODE. Err...groom kids or something
1400 FedGov employees laid off: ITS THE LITERAL END OF THE WORLD.
1400 FedGov employees laid off: ITS THE LITERAL END OF THE WORLD.
Posted by: The FNM at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (t0Rmr)
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The birthday lunch schedule is in shambles now!
And we have to completely re-think the shared gift for National Bosses Day!
And we have to completely re-think the shared gift for National Bosses Day!
Posted by: State Department Staffer at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (wVcYX)
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As I've been noting from the beginning, when the left stated this New, Improved and Novel reading of the Take Care Clause, what they are arguing is that the Executive is a subservient branch of the Legislative, not a co-equal part of the government.
Their view is that the Executive must "take care" that the laws passed by Congress be followed as they enacted--not just the letter but the spirit.
Not a Chief Executive, but a Chief Administrator.
But that' not at all what "take care" means in the Constitutional context.
It means, roughly, that when the President acts, he must act according to and within the Constitution and the statutes.
No more.
But that also includes "not acting."
Because, unless the law is "the President must do this specific thing in this specific way--and no other thing and in no other way" then Congress has given the Executive the discretion to act and, pretty much anything he does will then be within the Take Care Clause.
Congress gave the Executive money and said, "do education things."
Trump saying, I don't need nobody to do education things, is within the discretion granted.
Their view is that the Executive must "take care" that the laws passed by Congress be followed as they enacted--not just the letter but the spirit.
Not a Chief Executive, but a Chief Administrator.
But that' not at all what "take care" means in the Constitutional context.
It means, roughly, that when the President acts, he must act according to and within the Constitution and the statutes.
No more.
But that also includes "not acting."
Because, unless the law is "the President must do this specific thing in this specific way--and no other thing and in no other way" then Congress has given the Executive the discretion to act and, pretty much anything he does will then be within the Take Care Clause.
Congress gave the Executive money and said, "do education things."
Trump saying, I don't need nobody to do education things, is within the discretion granted.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (JThEY)
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These people are largely unemployable anywhere else, that’s the main reason they’re screaming. They know this
They will never have a gig like this again, it’s the equivalent of a no show job with a fat pension, retirement and lifetime healthcare.
They will never have a gig like this again, it’s the equivalent of a no show job with a fat pension, retirement and lifetime healthcare.
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (g0oCT)
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Judge rules all Palestinians living in Gaza are eligible for asylum in France
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I'm sure that'll work out well.
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I'm sure that'll work out well.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (L/fGl)
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One Meghan McCain is worth 875 cats on a balance scale.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (17s+e)
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Suddenly unemployed ex government employee women are going to be hitting the bricks. It's a buyer's market.
Posted by: torabora
Learn to pole?
Posted by: torabora
Learn to pole?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (/U5Yz)
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Went golfing this morning. I played like someone who hasn't played golf in over a year.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (EM0uu)
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Happy, or bad?
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (EM0uu)
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Happy, or bad?
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (wzAuc)
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173 Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (xQYJA)
Looney Loomer ?
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (xQYJA)
Looney Loomer ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (VE6XX)
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>>> 173 Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (xQYJA)
Oh FFS, not another "I'm gonna..." teaser. Just fcking release whatever it is you think is so big.
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (xQYJA)
Oh FFS, not another "I'm gonna..." teaser. Just fcking release whatever it is you think is so big.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (ULPxl)
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I'd dock their pay for using taxpayer resources to make their pissy signs.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (HFcKg)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 04:47 PM (dfIr7)
And that God will say, "Well, done though good and faithful servant . Enter into the joy of your Master."
Hard for the people of his church and family and friends though.
And that God will say, "Well, done though good and faithful servant . Enter into the joy of your Master."
Hard for the people of his church and family and friends though.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (2GCMq)
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173 Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (xQYJA)
I won't be holding my breath. She's the Jim Hoft of transgendered Michael Cernoviches.
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (xQYJA)
I won't be holding my breath. She's the Jim Hoft of transgendered Michael Cernoviches.
Posted by: Reliability is...inconsistent shall we say at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (TbWk/)
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150 1400/4200 is MUCH better than that State Department layoff of 1300/80,000.
33% is much better than 2%
/math
Posted by: scottst at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (PRdkL)
To be fair, State has a federal job...Ed doesn't.
And, they may have already lost a ton of folks through the voluntary resignation and earned firings (like Justice did)...Ed wouldn't quit b/c there is nowhere for them to go...
33% is much better than 2%
/math
Posted by: scottst at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (PRdkL)
To be fair, State has a federal job...Ed doesn't.
And, they may have already lost a ton of folks through the voluntary resignation and earned firings (like Justice did)...Ed wouldn't quit b/c there is nowhere for them to go...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (tOcjL)
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Finally, the ratio of people to cake will be workable.
Posted by: toby928 at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (LJPcY)
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Suddenly unemployed ex government employee women are going to be hitting the bricks. It's a buyer's market.
Posted by: torabora
Marry one now and get 8, now 10, cats for free!
Posted by: torabora
Marry one now and get 8, now 10, cats for free!
Posted by: But only if you call now! at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (t0Rmr)
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Well, at least the laid government workers won't be replaced by H1B visa holders.
Probably.
Maybe they will, who knows at this point?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (uCjyK)
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Would they howl the same if their jobs were replaced by illegals?
Probably.
Maybe they will, who knows at this point?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 04:39 PM (uCjyK)
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Would they howl the same if their jobs were replaced by illegals?
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (unUNN)
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"the Supreme Court ruled in favor of President Donald Trump's push to overhaul the Department of Education."
Am I the only person outraged this is even a question the supreme court needs to answer?
Am I the only person outraged this is even a question the supreme court needs to answer?
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (gDhA9)
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Middle school mean girls have been in charge of our foreign policy for years.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (ZOv7s)
None of those women in the pictures were attractive enough to be the sought after Mean Girls every one looked up to in HS.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 04:58 PM (ZOv7s)
None of those women in the pictures were attractive enough to be the sought after Mean Girls every one looked up to in HS.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (8avO+)
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delaying or denying educational opportunities and leaving students to suffer from discrimination, sexual assault, and other civil rights violations...
I guess the wise latinia doesn't pay much attention to current events. Seems like the department of education only facilitates discrimination, sexual assault and other perversions on school children.
I guess the wise latinia doesn't pay much attention to current events. Seems like the department of education only facilitates discrimination, sexual assault and other perversions on school children.
Posted by: Archer at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (IDphi)
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180 Suddenly unemployed ex government employee women are going to be hitting the bricks. It's a buyer's market.
Posted by: torabora
Learn to pole?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (/U5Yz)
We're gonna need bigger poles.
Posted by: torabora
Learn to pole?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (/U5Yz)
We're gonna need bigger poles.
Posted by: For load-bearing purposes at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (TbWk/)
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Do you see Ace talking about his important work in building shelves for the homeless ........
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2025 04:56 PM (8yx7s)
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Just to clarify, he's building shelves on which to put the homeless in his apartment. Storing them for future use.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2025 04:56 PM (8yx7s)
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Just to clarify, he's building shelves on which to put the homeless in his apartment. Storing them for future use.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (ZOv7s)
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And the State Department too. (Contractors). They get the long goodbye from the managerial class Feds that's hard to touch..
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (NFX2v)
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Make me work from the office fine, but I'm still pulling my pud after lunch
Posted by: Some Fedgov Employee
"don't forget crapping in the hallways!!!"
--EPA employees
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
If it wasn't Loomer I'd be curious, because its her I'm sort of worried what kind of crazy we're going to get.
Posted by: Some Fedgov Employee
"don't forget crapping in the hallways!!!"
--EPA employees
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
If it wasn't Loomer I'd be curious, because its her I'm sort of worried what kind of crazy we're going to get.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (dfIr7)
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There are 4,400 DOE employees, so this is about 1/4 of the work force.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 14, 2025 05:03 PM (gDhA9)
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"thou" not "though"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:03 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 05:03 PM (L/fGl)
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Wow. Look at those losers, mutants, slapcocks, faggots, clamdiggers, retards, shitmuffins, and … things. These are who the federal government is hiring? [Shivers]
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 05:03 PM (/oOuL)
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I won't be holding my breath. She's the Jim Hoft of transgendered Michael Cernoviches.
She's the John Solomon with a dick.
I won't be holding my breath. She's the Jim Hoft of transgendered Michael Cernoviches.
She's the John Solomon with a dick.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:03 PM (/U5Yz)
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This is how you can tell that the overwhelming majority of federal bureaucrats are Democrats. If they were Republicans, the elected Democrats in DC would be rushing to have all of them fired.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (viF8m)
Concur 110%. Conservatives or even "neutral" employees were constantly surveilled and hounded by their "colleagues". Denied promotions because of their political leanings, encouraged to look elsewhere for employment. And now it's green side up and the boo hoo, whining and crying is reaching a crescendo.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 04:57 PM (viF8m)
Concur 110%. Conservatives or even "neutral" employees were constantly surveilled and hounded by their "colleagues". Denied promotions because of their political leanings, encouraged to look elsewhere for employment. And now it's green side up and the boo hoo, whining and crying is reaching a crescendo.
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 05:03 PM (rj6Yv)
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I'm shedding crocodile tears here. These are the women who decided having a baby (as a married woman) disqualified me to continue as a foreign service officer.
Posted by: moki at July 14, 2025 05:03 PM (wLjpr)
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By the way, for those who know him, John MacArthur is in the hospital with pneumonia and very unlikely to survive.
Wow. One heck of a career. His book "The Gospel According to Jesus" got my mind right and out of the Free Will Enthusiast's teachings. Heard every one of his messages throughout the 70s and 80s (through the tape ministry)
I met and talked to him several times decades ago, genuine guy. You can bet that Grace Church will break all of their attendance records for the memorial.
Its time to go home John. good, faithful servant.
Wow. One heck of a career. His book "The Gospel According to Jesus" got my mind right and out of the Free Will Enthusiast's teachings. Heard every one of his messages throughout the 70s and 80s (through the tape ministry)
I met and talked to him several times decades ago, genuine guy. You can bet that Grace Church will break all of their attendance records for the memorial.
Its time to go home John. good, faithful servant.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 05:03 PM (kHd4y)
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Suddenly unemployed ex government employee women are going to be hitting the bricks. It's a buyer's market.
Posted by: torabora
Thank you for calling the Department of the Education for the United America of States. My name is Sandeep...Sam...and I will do the needful. Who am I speaking with.
Posted by: torabora
Thank you for calling the Department of the Education for the United America of States. My name is Sandeep...Sam...and I will do the needful. Who am I speaking with.
Posted by: Sam from the DoE at July 14, 2025 05:04 PM (t0Rmr)
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Do people take to the streets with a factory in the middle of bum-fuck Alabama closes down and lays off 1300 people?
_____________
*stomps feet*
*wails*
"THEY DIDN'T GO TO GEORGETOWN LIKE I DID!!!!"
Do people take to the streets with a factory in the middle of bum-fuck Alabama closes down and lays off 1300 people?
_____________
*stomps feet*
*wails*
"THEY DIDN'T GO TO GEORGETOWN LIKE I DID!!!!"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 05:04 PM (HZi96)
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None of those women in the pictures were attractive enough to be the sought after Mean Girls every one looked up to in HS.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (8avO+)
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In my experience, the legitimately hot chicks are actually white nice, and often a bit insecure about their appearance.
They've been demonized by the homely ones, who are actually ten times worse since they spend most of their time concocting revenge fantasies.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (8avO+)
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In my experience, the legitimately hot chicks are actually white nice, and often a bit insecure about their appearance.
They've been demonized by the homely ones, who are actually ten times worse since they spend most of their time concocting revenge fantasies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 05:04 PM (ZOv7s)
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yeah also no company in the private sector would hire them
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 04:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Because they are already employing illegals for peanuts. That's the world they created so let them live in it now.
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 04:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Because they are already employing illegals for peanuts. That's the world they created so let them live in it now.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 05:04 PM (unUNN)
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"Here sat America's experts on Democracy..."
Fucking lol
Angels are getting their wings like craze-balls.
Fucking lol
Angels are getting their wings like craze-balls.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 05:04 PM (fV+MH)
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I won't be holding my breath. She's the Jim Hoft of transgendered Michael Cernoviches.
She's the John Solomon with a dick.
Is it getting hot in here or is it just me?
She's the John Solomon with a dick.
Is it getting hot in here or is it just me?
Posted by: David French at July 14, 2025 05:04 PM (t0Rmr)
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You know, every single one of those being showed the door likely supported, encouraged, and pushed for Critical Race Theory in public schools.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (/lPRQ)
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as i said the other day, these are the people who say they could earn more in the private workforce but they love serving the public
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (CWTWj)
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180 Suddenly unemployed ex government employee women are going to be hitting the bricks. It's a buyer's market.
Posted by: torabora
Learn to pole?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (/U5Yz)
We're gonna need bigger poles.
Posted by: For load-bearing purposes at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (TbWk/)
Cabers?
Posted by: torabora
Learn to pole?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (/U5Yz)
We're gonna need bigger poles.
Posted by: For load-bearing purposes at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (TbWk/)
Cabers?
Posted by: Scotty McScottKilt at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (wVcYX)
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I think someone should comfort these fired workers by explaining, under Obamacare, they are no longer constrained by "job lock" and are free to pursue their artistic endeavors, such as cowboy poetry, without fear of losing their health insurance.
They should also be reminded of the joys of fun-employement.
And the excitement of stay-cations.
Also, FOAD, you fat, bloated ticks.
They should also be reminded of the joys of fun-employement.
And the excitement of stay-cations.
Also, FOAD, you fat, bloated ticks.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (JThEY)
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>>> 212 You know, every single one of those being showed the door likely supported, encouraged, and pushed for Critical Race Theory in public schools.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)
tbf so did those who haven't been fired (yet?).
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)
tbf so did those who haven't been fired (yet?).
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (ULPxl)
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My nephews all vowed not to date or marry education majors. Only one fell in the trap but she turned out to be a total conservative sweetheart.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (P0m9n)
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As I've been noting from the beginning, when the left stated this New, Improved and Novel reading of the Take Care Clause, what they are arguing is that the Executive is a subservient branch of the Legislative, not a co-equal part of the government.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (JThEY)
Not at all - they have neglected measures in the law put there by the Legislature, and inserted the Judiciary there in defiance of explicit orders by the Legislature. They have defied their own Supreme court to do so.
This is a lower level federal court coup only for their masters.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:00 PM (JThEY)
Not at all - they have neglected measures in the law put there by the Legislature, and inserted the Judiciary there in defiance of explicit orders by the Legislature. They have defied their own Supreme court to do so.
This is a lower level federal court coup only for their masters.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:06 PM (8avO+)
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Whether reforming the DOE is good policy or a disaster is not within the purview of the Court. As Rhom has pointed out many times, the inferior courts are, at their strongest, clerks.
Posted by: toby928 at July 14, 2025 05:06 PM (LJPcY)
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 05:06 PM (NQHDP)
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What is wrong with these people?
Also - it's not like this is some sort of surprise - they have known for months they were likely to get sacked.
Also - it's not like this is some sort of surprise - they have known for months they were likely to get sacked.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 14, 2025 05:06 PM (gDhA9)
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Having been at the Senior Executive Service (SES) level for over a decade is known Federal employment TRUTH: the ONLY way you can get fired or receive a damaging performance evaluation is if YOU try to deal with dysfunctional, worthless employees HR puts on the payroll.
Everyone at every level of Federal employment quickly learns any semblance of real work is to be done by outside contractors who you 'supervise'.
What Trump is doing -- trying to very slightly downsize head counts-/is possibly better than nothing. It really is shoveling shit against the tide. Trump could and should authorize some blue ribbon commission to make recommendations for a massive new Federal employment rules -- along with a Musk - like( the 80 percent of the Twitter workforce Musk quickly got rid of--) 80 percent reduction in the Fed workforce.
Reorganizing the Fed workforce and rules are a golden opportunity for Trump to do something Trumpian.
Everyone at every level of Federal employment quickly learns any semblance of real work is to be done by outside contractors who you 'supervise'.
What Trump is doing -- trying to very slightly downsize head counts-/is possibly better than nothing. It really is shoveling shit against the tide. Trump could and should authorize some blue ribbon commission to make recommendations for a massive new Federal employment rules -- along with a Musk - like( the 80 percent of the Twitter workforce Musk quickly got rid of--) 80 percent reduction in the Fed workforce.
Reorganizing the Fed workforce and rules are a golden opportunity for Trump to do something Trumpian.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at July 14, 2025 05:07 PM (MnfBI)
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Would they howl the same if their jobs were replaced by illegals?
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (unUNN)
Oh, even moreso.
"No, no, the illegals were supposed to mow my lawn and watch my kids, and the legal immigrants were supposed to stick it to those racist white nerds in Silicon Valley! They weren't supposed to take MY job! I'm important"
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 05:02 PM (unUNN)
Oh, even moreso.
"No, no, the illegals were supposed to mow my lawn and watch my kids, and the legal immigrants were supposed to stick it to those racist white nerds in Silicon Valley! They weren't supposed to take MY job! I'm important"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:07 PM (uCjyK)
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My nephews all vowed not to date or marry education majors. Only one fell in the trap but she turned out to be a total conservative sweetheart.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (P0m9n)
oh yes El Ed was a no no in the Carter years even.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (P0m9n)
oh yes El Ed was a no no in the Carter years even.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:07 PM (8avO+)
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>>> 221 This is hilarious, can they do this everyday?
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And televise it?
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 05:06 PM (NQHDP)
Think of the PPV revenue!
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And televise it?
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 05:06 PM (NQHDP)
Think of the PPV revenue!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:07 PM (ULPxl)
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Ordinarily, I'd say they'd gravitate to non-profit or NGO gigs, but that tap has been turned off.
Ordinarily, I'd say they'd gravitate to non-profit or NGO gigs, but that tap has been turned off.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 05:07 PM (HZi96)
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Told them to take the buy-out.
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And if follows (and should) normal RIFs -
Last In - First Out.
Those with less than three will be lucky to collect the equivalent of one paycheck from their 'retirement' account.
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And if follows (and should) normal RIFs -
Last In - First Out.
Those with less than three will be lucky to collect the equivalent of one paycheck from their 'retirement' account.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 05:07 PM (/lPRQ)
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I do agree with one of the signs. We released them into the United States of America. Should have been released in Gaza
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2025 05:07 PM (8yx7s)
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Getting a round of applause when you're being escorted out of the building actually seems more like a humiliation ritual.
Gosh, it's like Lehman Brothers all over again.
Gosh, it's like Lehman Brothers all over again.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 14, 2025 05:08 PM (qwx/I)
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Many people are asking, rhetorically, why the media is spiraling over 1,300 Deep State Groomers being fired while barely blinking at Microsoft's layoffs of 9,000.
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Note these are the same people who ordered rainbow flags flown at American embassies.
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Note these are the same people who ordered rainbow flags flown at American embassies.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 05:08 PM (Vh9CX)
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212 You know, every single one of those being showed the door likely supported, encouraged, and pushed for Critical Race Theory in public schools.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)
tbf so did those who haven't been fired (yet?).
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (ULPxl)
i'm sure a few have even dumber ideas.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)
tbf so did those who haven't been fired (yet?).
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:05 PM (ULPxl)
i'm sure a few have even dumber ideas.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:08 PM (8avO+)
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the termination of nearly 1,400 federal employees.
...is the freedom of 1,400 future pickers of onions.
...is the freedom of 1,400 future pickers of onions.
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 05:08 PM (NQHDP)
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New York Times "1619 Project" hardest hit.
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (rj6Yv)
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230 Getting a round of applause when you're being escorted out of the building actually seems more like a humiliation ritual.
Gosh, it's like Lehman Brothers all over again.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
Someone should have been there handing out Participation Trophies.
Gosh, it's like Lehman Brothers all over again.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
Someone should have been there handing out Participation Trophies.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (/U5Yz)
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didn't clinton get rid of all the fed prosecutors when he and hillary became president? of course they had a better chance at finding work than those who helped promote drag show in whatever country borat came from
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (CWTWj)
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Looney Loomer ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (VE6XX)
Sticking her large nose into everything. I dislike her bigly!
With every lie or click, her schnoz grows a mm.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 05:01 PM (VE6XX)
Sticking her large nose into everything. I dislike her bigly!
With every lie or click, her schnoz grows a mm.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (6PCLE)
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Perhaps the most colossally corrupt and aggressively destructive department in the government. How many young minds has it twisted?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (WHfpM)
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Let’s take a walk down memory lane and recall the usual suspects have thrown a wrench into the machinations of our government for at least 80 years on this stuff.
During the Cold War, they did everything they could to prevent expelling known Communists and fellow travellers from government. The supreme court held that the Secretary of State could not fire State Department employees.
The McCarren Rider, named after Senator Pat McCarren (D) Nev who sponsored the legislation, allowed for the SOS to fire any employee he wanted, if it was considered in his opinion good for the country. Our problem is many government employees feel they are an entity unto themselves, and not subject to the chain of command.
Even so, if our leaders are not willing to utilize the tools available we will have serious problems. Only rarely has the McCarren rule been invoked afaik.
During the Cold War, they did everything they could to prevent expelling known Communists and fellow travellers from government. The supreme court held that the Secretary of State could not fire State Department employees.
The McCarren Rider, named after Senator Pat McCarren (D) Nev who sponsored the legislation, allowed for the SOS to fire any employee he wanted, if it was considered in his opinion good for the country. Our problem is many government employees feel they are an entity unto themselves, and not subject to the chain of command.
Even so, if our leaders are not willing to utilize the tools available we will have serious problems. Only rarely has the McCarren rule been invoked afaik.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (+jJCu)
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"Colleagues, if you remain: RESIST FASCISM. Remember the oath you vowed to uphold."
Colleague sounds really close to comrade.
Colleague sounds really close to comrade.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (+bLMA)
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I just got an ad for a Red Sonja film.
Good points: She's half naked, redheaded and pretty
Minus points: She's 5'6 and thin and beats barbarians to death like she was Mike Tyson
Good points: She's half naked, redheaded and pretty
Minus points: She's 5'6 and thin and beats barbarians to death like she was Mike Tyson
Posted by: Quick Moron Movie Reviews at July 14, 2025 05:10 PM (t0Rmr)
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181 Went golfing this morning. I played like someone who hasn't played golf in over a year.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (EM0uu)
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Happy, or bad?
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
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Yes. Happy to be out golfing. Bad, I did not break 100, though I was close.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 04:52 PM (EM0uu)
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Happy, or bad?
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
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Yes. Happy to be out golfing. Bad, I did not break 100, though I was close.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 05:10 PM (EM0uu)
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"Colleagues, if you remain: RESIST FASCISM. Remember the oath you vowed to uphold."
But EMBRACE COMMUNISM!
But EMBRACE COMMUNISM!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 05:10 PM (+bLMA)
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For those who do not know who John MacArthur is, he took several cases to the supreme court regarding religious freedom -- and won every time. He battled California to keep his church open during the panic.
He's been a preacher for decades at the same church, and was a tremendously effective and powerful speaker. He proved the exception to the rule that big churches are always theological disasters led by corrupt greedy scum.
He's been a preacher for decades at the same church, and was a tremendously effective and powerful speaker. He proved the exception to the rule that big churches are always theological disasters led by corrupt greedy scum.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:10 PM (dfIr7)
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Meghan, there's a lot you still need to realize. Like the fact your dad was a traitor to his constituents. That he was part of the "endless war" cabal. That he made sure the arguably treasonous Steele dossier caused no end of headaches for President Trump.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 05:11 PM (tT6L1)
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In my experience, the legitimately hot chicks are actually white nice, and often a bit insecure about their appearance.
They've been demonized by the homely ones, who are actually ten times worse since they spend most of their time concocting revenge fantasies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 05:04 PM (ZOv7s)
Sure, my experience too. But the trope is all about the hot ones that hold power over the other students for social domination. Heathers, Breakfast Club, yadda yadda.
They've been demonized by the homely ones, who are actually ten times worse since they spend most of their time concocting revenge fantasies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 05:04 PM (ZOv7s)
Sure, my experience too. But the trope is all about the hot ones that hold power over the other students for social domination. Heathers, Breakfast Club, yadda yadda.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)
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Lots of job openings at cannabis farms in California.
Think of it like Peter Gibbons in Office Space-- "not so bad...workin' outside, catching rays.
"Fuck an A"
Think of it like Peter Gibbons in Office Space-- "not so bad...workin' outside, catching rays.
"Fuck an A"
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 14, 2025 05:12 PM (qwx/I)
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Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
There is an inverse correlation between the telegraphing of a scandal and the actual scandal. Prove me wrong.
There is an inverse correlation between the telegraphing of a scandal and the actual scandal. Prove me wrong.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 05:12 PM (/y8xj)
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My sister-in-law was a first-grade teacher. I missed having her by one year. (I was much younger than my five siblings.)
She stopped having "show and tell" when one student told about how another student's dad and been over to his house all night with his (the first student's) mommy.
And also when another student brought in "mommy's toy."
"OK," she said, "No more show and tell."
She stopped having "show and tell" when one student told about how another student's dad and been over to his house all night with his (the first student's) mommy.
And also when another student brought in "mommy's toy."
"OK," she said, "No more show and tell."
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:12 PM (77rzZ)
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Sure, my experience too. But the trope is all about the hot ones that hold power over the other students for social domination. Heathers, Breakfast Club, yadda yadda.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)
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Yes, but not written by actual hot chicks, hence the skewed perspective.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)
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Yes, but not written by actual hot chicks, hence the skewed perspective.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 05:12 PM (ZOv7s)
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Well, I'm now told by my betters that by not moving on the Epstein case, Trump has shown he's a pedophile.
Well, I'm now told by my betters that by not moving on the Epstein case, Trump has shown he's a pedophile.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 05:12 PM (HZi96)
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"Colleagues, if you remain: RESIST FASCISM. Remember the oath you vowed to uphold."
But EMBRACE COMMUNISM!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 05:10 PM (+bLMA)
Isn't that oath to do what the President wants?
But EMBRACE COMMUNISM!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 05:10 PM (+bLMA)
Isn't that oath to do what the President wants?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:13 PM (8avO+)
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It's because they're barely-literate, mostly unskilled, quasi-functioning retards who won't be able to find employment anywhere outside of their previously cozy federal sinecures, especially since USAID got demolished and the bullshit communist NGOs that might have hired them got their funding yanked.
Posted by: Daycare for adults at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (TbWk/)
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This is probably the part that scares them the most, there is no backup, they will have to get a real job and those have been obliterated or outsourced. Still not sorry for them.
Posted by: Daycare for adults at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (TbWk/)
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This is probably the part that scares them the most, there is no backup, they will have to get a real job and those have been obliterated or outsourced. Still not sorry for them.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 05:13 PM (unUNN)
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In my experience, the legitimately hot chicks are actually white nice
COME SEE THE RACISM INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!
COME SEE THE RACISM INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 05:13 PM (TdYBy)
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Was Red Sonja actually a character created by Robert E. Howard, even if she didn't appear in Conan stories? Or did she?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 05:13 PM (omVj0)
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Having worked in manufacturing and thus having been fired, I was not in the mood for any interaction with any other employee while I was doing the walk of shame. Lets just say I noticed there was a police car in the parking lot when I left.
I accurse them in the name of God.
I accurse them in the name of God.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 14, 2025 05:13 PM (qwx/I)
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Did Germany somehow get control of France again?
All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France.
http://tiny.cc/3hdp001
This is payback for WWII, right?
All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France.
http://tiny.cc/3hdp001
This is payback for WWII, right?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (lIio7)
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Minus points: She's 5'6 and thin and beats barbarians to death like she was Mike Tyson
Yeah, I can live with it in a fantasy setting but she is really kind of small to pull off the barbarian warrior look. She probably should have a bigger rack too, but you cant have everything. At least she's a redhead.
Yeah, I can live with it in a fantasy setting but she is really kind of small to pull off the barbarian warrior look. She probably should have a bigger rack too, but you cant have everything. At least she's a redhead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (dfIr7)
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Most of the hot women I've known have actually been pretty nice.
Most of the non-hot women, too. I tend to get along with women in general.
Most of the non-hot women, too. I tend to get along with women in general.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (77rzZ)
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@251 He among us who hasn't boinked a teenager, cast the first stone.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (qwx/I)
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What are these fired government employees good for? They are career bureaucrats who only have skills in useless government management. The Ed department firees could conceivably become teachers but in a real classroom settings they'd quickly have nervous breakdowns. I suppose State Department firees could start travel agencies
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Remember, the media was fine with mass layoffs if someone didn’t get a clot shot.
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 05:15 PM (g0oCT)
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This is probably the part that scares them the most, there is no backup, they will have to get a real job and those have been obliterated or outsourced. Still not sorry for them.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 05:13 PM (unUNN)
Plenty of material for a Hollywood comedy smash hit.
Posted by: Decaf at July 14, 2025 05:13 PM (unUNN)
Plenty of material for a Hollywood comedy smash hit.
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 05:15 PM (rj6Yv)
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260 Most of the hot women I've known have actually been pretty nice.
Most of the non-hot women, too. I tend to get along with women in general.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (77rzZ)
What's your secret? Are you gay?
Most of the non-hot women, too. I tend to get along with women in general.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (77rzZ)
What's your secret? Are you gay?
Posted by: Cardigans in the closet? at July 14, 2025 05:15 PM (TbWk/)
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The downside is unemployment went up a tick.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 05:15 PM (fV+MH)
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Was Red Sonja actually a character created by Robert E. Howard, even if she didn't appear in Conan stories?
Yeah she was written by him but was set in the 16th century packing flintlocks. Marvel Comics got the rights and rebooted her as a chainmail bikini-wearing Conan era barbarian, and that looks like what the movie is going with.
Yeah she was written by him but was set in the 16th century packing flintlocks. Marvel Comics got the rights and rebooted her as a chainmail bikini-wearing Conan era barbarian, and that looks like what the movie is going with.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:15 PM (dfIr7)
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During the Cold War, they did everything they could to prevent expelling known Communists and fellow travellers from government. The supreme court held that the Secretary of State could not fire State Department employees.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (+jJCu)
Another case where the 'transfer the dude to South Sudan and never answer his cables for 4 years ' solution would have worked perfectly.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 05:09 PM (+jJCu)
Another case where the 'transfer the dude to South Sudan and never answer his cables for 4 years ' solution would have worked perfectly.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (8avO+)
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This is hilarious, can they do this everyday?
And televise it?
Posted by: t-bird
Make a game show out of it. Compete on middle school subjects to keep your job.
Which is not a Shakespeare play, Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth, or Harry Potter?
And televise it?
Posted by: t-bird
Make a game show out of it. Compete on middle school subjects to keep your job.
Which is not a Shakespeare play, Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth, or Harry Potter?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (L/fGl)
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I am starting to really regret accepting the friend requests of my aunt and uncle on fb.
I am trying to be polite.
I am trying to be polite.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (zZu0s)
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AWFLnacht!!!!
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (fV+MH)
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Yeah, I can live with it in a fantasy setting but she is really kind of small to pull off the barbarian warrior look. She probably should have a bigger rack too, but you cant have everything. At least she's a redhead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (dfIr7)
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I thought her strength had a supernatural source, which is why she had a great rack but it never got in they way of her combat skillz.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (dfIr7)
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I thought her strength had a supernatural source, which is why she had a great rack but it never got in they way of her combat skillz.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (ZOv7s)
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Women are nice to good looking guys in general, hot or not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (dfIr7)
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Has anyone told these fired workers that they should be excited to finally be able to start their career in podcasting?
Jen Rubin is making hundreds of billions now that she is free from the oppressive, corporate, right-wing fascism of the WaPo
Jen Rubin is making hundreds of billions now that she is free from the oppressive, corporate, right-wing fascism of the WaPo
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:17 PM (JThEY)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:17 PM (/U5Yz)
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What are these fired government employees good for? They are career bureaucrats who only have skills in useless government management. The Ed department firees could conceivably become teachers but in a real classroom settings they'd quickly have nervous breakdowns. I suppose State Department firees could start travel agencies
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (Ry3Y5)
you think these DoE peeps have teaching credentials?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (Ry3Y5)
you think these DoE peeps have teaching credentials?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:17 PM (8avO+)
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They don't look like they were missing any lunchbreaks.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: toby928 at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (LJPcY)
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When I was young, a gov. job meant lousy work conditions and lower pay than the private sector.
These were mostly people who either
- had very specialized skills and inclinations
- really really liked the security or work location
- were idiots who could not get hired by someone needing productivity
But then slowly, under Clinton, Obama, and Autopen, these jobs became
- Higher pay
- Great work conditions
- Endless perks - expense accounts, credit cards, travel
- Great benefits
- "Jobs" for life.
We have to get back to gov. jobs being miserable, low paying, and only for absolutely necessary functions.
These were mostly people who either
- had very specialized skills and inclinations
- really really liked the security or work location
- were idiots who could not get hired by someone needing productivity
But then slowly, under Clinton, Obama, and Autopen, these jobs became
- Higher pay
- Great work conditions
- Endless perks - expense accounts, credit cards, travel
- Great benefits
- "Jobs" for life.
We have to get back to gov. jobs being miserable, low paying, and only for absolutely necessary functions.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (rrOZL)
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It's because they're barely-literate, mostly unskilled, quasi-functioning retards who won't be able to find employment anywhere outside of their previously cozy federal sinecures, especially since USAID got demolished and the bullshit communist NGOs that might have hired them got their funding yanked.
Posted by: Daycare for adults at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (TbWk/)
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This is probably the part that scares them the most, there is no backup, they will have to get a real job and those have been obliterated or outsourced. Still not sorry for them.
Posted by: Decaf
It was funny to them when a bunch of oilfield workers got laid off on Bribem's first day.
F 'em. Learn to choad.
Posted by: Daycare for adults at July 14, 2025 04:45 PM (TbWk/)
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This is probably the part that scares them the most, there is no backup, they will have to get a real job and those have been obliterated or outsourced. Still not sorry for them.
Posted by: Decaf
It was funny to them when a bunch of oilfield workers got laid off on Bribem's first day.
F 'em. Learn to choad.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (+bLMA)
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For those who do not know who John MacArthur is...
He's long been a favorite of the Babylon Bee, in a good way. Here's one of my favorites. Just put "MacArthur" in their search to see more.
https://is.gd/lm5cJk
He's long been a favorite of the Babylon Bee, in a good way. Here's one of my favorites. Just put "MacArthur" in their search to see more.
https://is.gd/lm5cJk
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (/y8xj)
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Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (ni1Md
Switched over from "Boomers" to "A certain generation" ? lol . We knew what you meant.
Switched over from "Boomers" to "A certain generation" ? lol . We knew what you meant.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (2GCMq)
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Yeah, I can live with it in a fantasy setting but she is really kind of small to pull off the barbarian warrior look. She probably should have a bigger rack too, but you cant have everything. At least she's a redhead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025
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Xena worked because she was tall and "Amazonian" (even though in the stories she was *not* one of the Amazons). And Lucy Lawless *sold* that role; she made you believe it the way Chuck Connors sold the role of the Rifleman.
Plus I think we were told that Xena's one of Xena's parents was an Olympian god. Ares maybe? Though I'm not sure about that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025
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Xena worked because she was tall and "Amazonian" (even though in the stories she was *not* one of the Amazons). And Lucy Lawless *sold* that role; she made you believe it the way Chuck Connors sold the role of the Rifleman.
Plus I think we were told that Xena's one of Xena's parents was an Olympian god. Ares maybe? Though I'm not sure about that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (omVj0)
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During Funemployment didn't Pelosi tell the unemployed to Art.
Learn to paint?
Learn to paint?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (/U5Yz)
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I am starting to really regret accepting the friend requests of my aunt and uncle on fb.
I am trying to be polite.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (zZu0s)
You don't want to see photos of their neighbors dinners?
I solved that by not opening the app.
I am trying to be polite.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (zZu0s)
You don't want to see photos of their neighbors dinners?
I solved that by not opening the app.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (8avO+)
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Most of the hot women I've known have actually been pretty nice.
Most of the non-hot women, too. I tend to get along with women in general.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (77rzZ)
What's your secret? Are you gay?
Posted by: Cardigans in the closet?
I tend to get into "testosterone wars," as my wife calls them, with men. I don't have to worry about that around women.
Most of the non-hot women, too. I tend to get along with women in general.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:14 PM (77rzZ)
What's your secret? Are you gay?
Posted by: Cardigans in the closet?
I tend to get into "testosterone wars," as my wife calls them, with men. I don't have to worry about that around women.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ)
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281 For those who do not know who John MacArthur is...
He's long been a favorite of the Babylon Bee, in a good way. Here's one of my favorites. Just put "MacArthur" in their search to see more.
https://is.gd/lm5cJk
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (/y8xj)
If this is not the elbow drop onto Joel Osteen I will be very disappointed.
He's long been a favorite of the Babylon Bee, in a good way. Here's one of my favorites. Just put "MacArthur" in their search to see more.
https://is.gd/lm5cJk
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 05:18 PM (/y8xj)
If this is not the elbow drop onto Joel Osteen I will be very disappointed.
Posted by: Best Bee ever at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (TbWk/)
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Women are nice to good looking guys in general, hot or not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (dfIr7)
This is known.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (dfIr7)
This is known.
Posted by: Giga Chad at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (wVcYX)
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I got fired, a little over two years ago, from a job I liked quite a bit with managers I liked too.
(Fuck you, Indeed.com)
They axed the ENTIRE QA org, company wide. Not a peep from the garbage-tier press. I loved my job, but I didn't feel like I was entitled to work there.
And I put on my big boy pants and got a new job.
(Fuck you, Indeed.com)
They axed the ENTIRE QA org, company wide. Not a peep from the garbage-tier press. I loved my job, but I didn't feel like I was entitled to work there.
And I put on my big boy pants and got a new job.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 05:20 PM (xcxpd)
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My brother (gov. job) told me that if he divorces, his wife gets a pension too! It is doubled!
How is that for insane corruption.
How is that for insane corruption.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:20 PM (rrOZL)
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Women are shallow. End of story.
Posted by: Doug Roberts
Dude, you never met my Mother. She would probably tan your hide for saying that.
Posted by: Doug Roberts
Dude, you never met my Mother. She would probably tan your hide for saying that.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:20 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:21 PM (2GCMq)
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I tend to get into "testosterone wars," as my wife calls them, with men. I don't have to worry about that around women.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ)
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Both in person and online, as we have seen.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ)
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Both in person and online, as we have seen.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 05:21 PM (ZOv7s)
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Delete taxpayer funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 05:21 PM (rj6Yv)
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I thought her strength had a supernatural source, which is why she had a great rack but it never got in they way of her combat skillz.
Remember Chainmail Bikinis are top tier armor...
Remember Chainmail Bikinis are top tier armor...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 05:21 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (L/fGl)
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289 Women are nice to good looking guys in general, hot or not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (dfIr7)
This is known.
Posted by: Giga Chad at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (wVcYX)
This goes both ways. I forget who it was who said that beauty is its own silent recommendation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (dfIr7)
This is known.
Posted by: Giga Chad at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (wVcYX)
This goes both ways. I forget who it was who said that beauty is its own silent recommendation.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (TdYBy)
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The downside is unemployment went up a tick.
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In no sane world would government employees be counted in the official employment rolls. They’ve queered all the measurements for inrlation, employment, spending, crime, you name it. Just to make things look good on paper. Rotting cities show otherwise.
The government did not count government workers, Farmers or Ranchers prior to WWII for statistical purposes when listing unemployment figures. That puts the 25% unemployed during the Depression in a different light.
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In no sane world would government employees be counted in the official employment rolls. They’ve queered all the measurements for inrlation, employment, spending, crime, you name it. Just to make things look good on paper. Rotting cities show otherwise.
The government did not count government workers, Farmers or Ranchers prior to WWII for statistical purposes when listing unemployment figures. That puts the 25% unemployed during the Depression in a different light.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (1CMCA)
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Women are nice to good looking guys in general, hot or not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (dfIr7)
This is known.
Posted by: Giga Chad
Being the personification of the perfect male form I can attest to this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:16 PM (dfIr7)
This is known.
Posted by: Giga Chad
Being the personification of the perfect male form I can attest to this.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (/U5Yz)
299
Our State Dept. ex-employees apparently do not realize that a bloated govt bureaucracy is LITERALLY fascism. They were part of the fascist apparatus!
Posted by: PJ at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (RRCAT)
300
I hope somebody is searching those cardboard boxes.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (v0R5T)
301
The US paid $15 million to Mexico in 1848 for the Mexican Cession, which included California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and parts of Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, and Wyoming.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
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Well, I'm now told by my betters that by not moving on the Epstein case, Trump has shown he's a pedophile.
Heck, Trump should have shielded himself from such accusations by showering with his daughter when she was a child.
Heck, Trump should have shielded himself from such accusations by showering with his daughter when she was a child.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 05:24 PM (kHd4y)
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Both in person and online, as we have seen.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
True. Men can get on my last nerve, sometimes.
I can always "kiss and make up," metaphorically, with an 'ette.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
True. Men can get on my last nerve, sometimes.
I can always "kiss and make up," metaphorically, with an 'ette.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:24 PM (77rzZ)
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re 284: now you'll have time to finish that novel
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 05:24 PM (CWTWj)
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Here is a CV or resume from the newly, ugly crying laid off gender neutrals:
Graduate of Harvard: GPA 2.1 Elementary Education
Phi Beta Slappa Crappa
Law Review
Job: Deptartment of Edumacation
2020- just laid off due to Orange Man Bad
Worked from home during the Pandemic
Team Leader: Led a team of four cubicles with similar skill sets, taking direction from the Cubicle Coordinator Prince Harambe. Common Core Goal Support Team. Brought cake for birthdays.
Skills:
I type sometimes when I am not eating Cheetos
Excel spreadsheets sometimes work
Power Point sometimes works
New computer stuff I am willing to learn, am told I am a cheerful learner and leader
Hobbies:
Weaving balls of my cat's hair into quilts for homeless
Writing mean letters to GOP politicans
Making signs for protests of PP and against deportations
Volunteer at Planned Parenthood, altho not a parent as gender neutral and asexual
Graduate of Harvard: GPA 2.1 Elementary Education
Phi Beta Slappa Crappa
Law Review
Job: Deptartment of Edumacation
2020- just laid off due to Orange Man Bad
Worked from home during the Pandemic
Team Leader: Led a team of four cubicles with similar skill sets, taking direction from the Cubicle Coordinator Prince Harambe. Common Core Goal Support Team. Brought cake for birthdays.
Skills:
I type sometimes when I am not eating Cheetos
Excel spreadsheets sometimes work
Power Point sometimes works
New computer stuff I am willing to learn, am told I am a cheerful learner and leader
Hobbies:
Weaving balls of my cat's hair into quilts for homeless
Writing mean letters to GOP politicans
Making signs for protests of PP and against deportations
Volunteer at Planned Parenthood, altho not a parent as gender neutral and asexual
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 05:24 PM (6PCLE)
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What are these fired government employees good for? They are career bureaucrats who only have skills in useless government management. The Ed department firees could conceivably become teachers but in a real classroom settings they'd quickly have nervous breakdowns. I suppose State Department firees could start travel agencies
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Their skills and expertise consist entirely of navigating the bureaucracy and using the internal, proprietary--and decades out-of-date--software programs.
They're basically unionized Blockbuster employees who were convinced alphabetizing movies is an expert-level skill.
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Their skills and expertise consist entirely of navigating the bureaucracy and using the internal, proprietary--and decades out-of-date--software programs.
They're basically unionized Blockbuster employees who were convinced alphabetizing movies is an expert-level skill.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:24 PM (JThEY)
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I would be cautious about making generalizations based upon federal office drones suffering from Main Character Syndrome.
These aren't fine specimens of womanhood, they are Satan's acolytes.
These aren't fine specimens of womanhood, they are Satan's acolytes.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 14, 2025 05:25 PM (ZOv7s)
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Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (ni1Md
Didn't read the post. Adios, Scogg err Doug
Didn't read the post. Adios, Scogg err Doug
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:25 PM (2GCMq)
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NYC has regular scandals that are barely noticed and never stopped.
The typical one is people are automatically allowed double hours (all overtime) the last year of work. Their salary triples and that is what they base the pension on. So 15 or 20 years and then for life they get a pension higher than the working salary! This happens for rail and I think fire depts. but maybe others I stopped paying attention.
Another was (I think fire dept.) they would go on disability as well and get FULL triple salary for life. No injury required since the bosses signed off on everything.
Crazy shit like that happens all the time. People living off their expense accounts - I mean, claiming to live in state A but working in state B and then having all life's expenses paid for. Credit cards handed around like candy for vacations and shit. These jobs are worse than the bears (out of control.)
The typical one is people are automatically allowed double hours (all overtime) the last year of work. Their salary triples and that is what they base the pension on. So 15 or 20 years and then for life they get a pension higher than the working salary! This happens for rail and I think fire depts. but maybe others I stopped paying attention.
Another was (I think fire dept.) they would go on disability as well and get FULL triple salary for life. No injury required since the bosses signed off on everything.
Crazy shit like that happens all the time. People living off their expense accounts - I mean, claiming to live in state A but working in state B and then having all life's expenses paid for. Credit cards handed around like candy for vacations and shit. These jobs are worse than the bears (out of control.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:26 PM (rrOZL)
310
I tend to get into "testosterone wars," as my wife calls them, with men. I don't have to worry about that around women.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ)
So you're high-E?
I keed. I have a pretty small and largely disastrous portfolio of experience with women, so I truthfully don't understand how it's even supposed to work.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ)
So you're high-E?
I keed. I have a pretty small and largely disastrous portfolio of experience with women, so I truthfully don't understand how it's even supposed to work.
Posted by: Will definitely die alone, but don't we all at July 14, 2025 05:26 PM (TbWk/)
311
Learn to pick cherries.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 05:26 PM (W2Pud)
312
If these people really are the amazing educators they claim to be, they can get jobs right away in public schools, yes?
Or they are just government hacks. Could be that.
Or they are just government hacks. Could be that.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (1Gsou)
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The US paid $15 million to Mexico in 1848 for the Mexican Cession, which included California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and parts of Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, and Wyoming.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
Well we were sitting in Mexico City with the US Army at the time, so I don't think the point is entirely moot.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
Well we were sitting in Mexico City with the US Army at the time, so I don't think the point is entirely moot.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (8avO+)
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Their skills and expertise consist entirely of navigating the bureaucracy and using the internal, proprietary--and decades out-of-date--software programs.
They're basically unionized Blockbuster employees who were convinced alphabetizing movies is an expert-level skill.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:24 PM (JThEY)
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Give them a towel and they're Arthur Dent
They're basically unionized Blockbuster employees who were convinced alphabetizing movies is an expert-level skill.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:24 PM (JThEY)
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Give them a towel and they're Arthur Dent
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (tT6L1)
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>>> 303 The US paid $15 million to Mexico in 1848 for the Mexican Cession, which included California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and parts of Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, and Wyoming.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
$15 million in 1848 equals what in 2025 dollars? Plus we should tack on the cost of all the money feralgov sent to illegals. So Mexico, do you still want to buy it back???
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
$15 million in 1848 equals what in 2025 dollars? Plus we should tack on the cost of all the money feralgov sent to illegals. So Mexico, do you still want to buy it back???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (ULPxl)
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If these people really are the amazing educators they claim to be, they can get jobs right away in public schools, yes?
Or they are just government hacks. Could be that.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (1Gsou)
Well both are govt hacks.
Or they are just government hacks. Could be that.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (1Gsou)
Well both are govt hacks.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (8avO+)
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Maybe Trump should bring back Shovel Ready jobs?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (/U5Yz)
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$15 million in 1848 equals what in 2025 dollars? Plus we should tack on the cost of all the money feralgov sent to illegals. So Mexico, do you still want to buy it back???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (ULPxl)
What they are really mad about is we took the part with all the paved roads.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:27 PM (ULPxl)
What they are really mad about is we took the part with all the paved roads.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:28 PM (8avO+)
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The US paid $15 million to Mexico in 1848 for the Mexican Cession, which included California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and parts of Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, and Wyoming.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
aka western and northwestern Greater Texas territories.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
aka western and northwestern Greater Texas territories.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 05:28 PM (wVcYX)
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Critical Theory is straight up communist destabilization techniques, brought to you by the “Frankfurt School” for Social Research. You know who kicked a bunch of Communists out of Germany in the 1930s who were allowed to emigrate to the US and set up shop at Columbia. This was their way of showing their gratitude towards America - set out to destroy it.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 05:28 PM (dBJdm)
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Here is a CV or resume from the newly, ugly crying laid off gender neutrals:
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 05:24 PM (6PCLE)
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Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 05:28 PM (/oOuL)
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313 NYC has regular scandals that are barely noticed and never stopped.
The typical one is people are automatically allowed double hours (all overtime) the last year of work. Their salary triples and that is what they base the pension on. So 15 or 20 years and then for life they get a pension higher than the working salary! This happens for rail and I think fire depts. but maybe others I stopped paying attention.
Another was (I think fire dept.) they would go on disability as well and get FULL triple salary for life. No injury required since the bosses signed off on everything.
Crazy shit like that happens all the time. People living off their expense accounts - I mean, claiming to live in state A but working in state B and then having all life's expenses paid for. Credit cards handed around like candy for vacations and shit. These jobs are worse than the bears (out of control.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:26 PM (rrOZL)
Cops and fire departments are some of the worst offenders with double dipping and INSANE overtime payments. Some of these guys are getting overtime that would be a pretty cushy annual salary all on its own. Lots of abuse in the system
The typical one is people are automatically allowed double hours (all overtime) the last year of work. Their salary triples and that is what they base the pension on. So 15 or 20 years and then for life they get a pension higher than the working salary! This happens for rail and I think fire depts. but maybe others I stopped paying attention.
Another was (I think fire dept.) they would go on disability as well and get FULL triple salary for life. No injury required since the bosses signed off on everything.
Crazy shit like that happens all the time. People living off their expense accounts - I mean, claiming to live in state A but working in state B and then having all life's expenses paid for. Credit cards handed around like candy for vacations and shit. These jobs are worse than the bears (out of control.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:26 PM (rrOZL)
Cops and fire departments are some of the worst offenders with double dipping and INSANE overtime payments. Some of these guys are getting overtime that would be a pretty cushy annual salary all on its own. Lots of abuse in the system
Posted by: Buys a lot of donuts though at July 14, 2025 05:29 PM (TbWk/)
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306 In fact, I'm sorry to say that my last, and possibly only, interaction on this site with the late Jim Sunk New Dawn was an unfortunate one.
He made some comment that was disparaging of enlisted folk in the military. I, having been enlisted (and in my cups, no doubt), called him out on it. Thus, the last words I wrote to him were words of anger -- not irritation or annoyance, but genuine anger.
I regret that now. I may have misunderstood what he wrote, but there's no way to make it right now.
But that's how I get with guys, sometimes.
He made some comment that was disparaging of enlisted folk in the military. I, having been enlisted (and in my cups, no doubt), called him out on it. Thus, the last words I wrote to him were words of anger -- not irritation or annoyance, but genuine anger.
I regret that now. I may have misunderstood what he wrote, but there's no way to make it right now.
But that's how I get with guys, sometimes.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:29 PM (77rzZ)
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Clearly State hasn't shitcanned enough people. The shitcannings will continue until morale improves!
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 05:29 PM (gKWVE)
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good
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 05:29 PM (B9Prs)
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The US paid $15 million to Mexico in 1848 for the Mexican Cession, which included California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and parts of Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, and Wyoming.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD
Beat them in a war AND paid for the land.
No lamentations of their wimmins. No kids into slavery.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD
Beat them in a war AND paid for the land.
No lamentations of their wimmins. No kids into slavery.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 05:30 PM (+bLMA)
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Cardboardboxnacht.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 05:30 PM (fV+MH)
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New York Post headline:
"Biden admits he didn’t approve each individual pardon, chief of staff Zients signed off on last-day clemencies"
"Biden admits he didn’t approve each individual pardon, chief of staff Zients signed off on last-day clemencies"
Posted by: mrp at July 14, 2025 05:30 PM (rj6Yv)
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The US paid $15 million to Mexico in 1848 for the Mexican Cession, which included California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and parts of Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, and Wyoming.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
Well we were sitting in Mexico City with the US Army at the time, so I don't think the point is entirely moot.
Posted by: Oldcat
Then Mexico sued the US to take more land.
They had old claims to territory they had no functional control over.
For those that think California land was stolen from Mexico.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 05:23 PM (xQYJA)
Well we were sitting in Mexico City with the US Army at the time, so I don't think the point is entirely moot.
Posted by: Oldcat
Then Mexico sued the US to take more land.
They had old claims to territory they had no functional control over.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 05:31 PM (/lPRQ)
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I keed. I have a pretty small and largely disastrous portfolio of experience with women, so I truthfully don't understand how it's even supposed to work.
Posted by: Will definitely die alone
MAKE THEM LAUGH. Or at least smile.
Posted by: Will definitely die alone
MAKE THEM LAUGH. Or at least smile.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:31 PM (77rzZ)
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I'll never tire of the perfect example of a fed worker in the real world.
Traffic every day along a certain route near DC would always back up and jam.
No matter what the Dept of Transportation did. Rain, shine, any weather.
Until they discovered the source:
A fed worker, every day, when he got off work, would head out to the highway, set the cruise control and stay in the left lane.
And refused to move or adjust speed.
Millions of manhours in delays, thousands and thousands frustrated and angered.
And he did not give a fuck
Traffic every day along a certain route near DC would always back up and jam.
No matter what the Dept of Transportation did. Rain, shine, any weather.
Until they discovered the source:
A fed worker, every day, when he got off work, would head out to the highway, set the cruise control and stay in the left lane.
And refused to move or adjust speed.
Millions of manhours in delays, thousands and thousands frustrated and angered.
And he did not give a fuck
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 05:31 PM (JThEY)
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>Supreme Court Okays Trump's Restructuring of the Department of Education, Clearing the Way for 1,400 Firings
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pending the approval of a district court judge somewhere
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pending the approval of a district court judge somewhere
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 05:31 PM (AOsQT)
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Nood
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 05:32 PM (vZUXb)
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 05:32 PM (fV+MH)
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Men who can't get along with women are idiots. Not specific women, of course -- they are women who are bad apples as in any group. But women in general.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 05:32 PM (77rzZ)
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One thing I never realized until I moved to the DC area is the absolutely insane amount of people who think they are entitled to a job in government - forever.
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The other one thing, just how partisan these people are in these government jobs.
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The other one thing, just how partisan these people are in these government jobs.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 05:32 PM (G0vdT)
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Noiiiice!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 05:32 PM (ImXfC)
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Another was (I think fire dept.) they would go on disability as well and get FULL triple salary for life. No injury required since the bosses signed off on everything.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:26 PM (rrOZL)
Look at the railroad employees on all three regional commuter rails.
Infuriating. There's some kind of New Deal era federal railroad fund that all of the conductors on Metro North and LIRR (and I'm sure NJ Transit) draw funds from when they retire as "disabled" from work-related back problems some hack doctor will say they have.
There was a crackdown a few years ago after the NYPost took pictures of some of these disabled railroadmen golfing with their employee discounts at public golf courses.
But still...
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 05:26 PM (rrOZL)
Look at the railroad employees on all three regional commuter rails.
Infuriating. There's some kind of New Deal era federal railroad fund that all of the conductors on Metro North and LIRR (and I'm sure NJ Transit) draw funds from when they retire as "disabled" from work-related back problems some hack doctor will say they have.
There was a crackdown a few years ago after the NYPost took pictures of some of these disabled railroadmen golfing with their employee discounts at public golf courses.
But still...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (uCjyK)
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$15m in 1848 is $610+m today. As much as Cali is annoying, no backsies
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (Ry3Y5)
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I have a pretty small and largely disastrous portfolio of experience with women, so I truthfully don't understand how it's even supposed to work.
Posted by: Will definitely die alone
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Don’t try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other.
Posted by: Will definitely die alone
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Don’t try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other.
Posted by: Al Bundy at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (u73oe)
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Nood MAGA
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (omVj0)
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You know what Fen ? I don't feel the need to call any attention to your posts. Because I don't care. Because you're an idiot. And people can either read or ignore.
Do me the same courtesy.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 14, 2025 05:28 PM (ni1Md)
That's a lot of sentences of not caring.
Do me the same courtesy.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 14, 2025 05:28 PM (ni1Md)
That's a lot of sentences of not caring.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:34 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 05:34 PM (ULPxl)
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It used to be the case that public sector jobs paid worse but had a higher degree of job security and got things like pensions.
Now that public sector jobs are paid better, it's only fair that they have less job security than the public sector. I propose that every year, 5% or so of the government staff should be fired based on a random lottery.
Now that public sector jobs are paid better, it's only fair that they have less job security than the public sector. I propose that every year, 5% or so of the government staff should be fired based on a random lottery.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 05:34 PM (B9Prs)
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This goes both ways. I forget who it was who said that beauty is its own silent recommendation.
Yeah they call it "pretty privilege" and its real, I've seen it. Its not fair, its unreasonable, but its just how we respond. Even babies like to see a pretty face.
Yeah they call it "pretty privilege" and its real, I've seen it. Its not fair, its unreasonable, but its just how we respond. Even babies like to see a pretty face.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 05:35 PM (dfIr7)
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New York Post headline:
"Biden admits he didn’t approve each individual pardon, chief of staff Zients signed off on last-day clemencies"
Posted by: mrp
If he 'approved' them he would have signed them.
Run a 100% audit. He probably wasn't signing bills into law or vetoes either.
"Biden admits he didn’t approve each individual pardon, chief of staff Zients signed off on last-day clemencies"
Posted by: mrp
If he 'approved' them he would have signed them.
Run a 100% audit. He probably wasn't signing bills into law or vetoes either.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 05:35 PM (/lPRQ)
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There was a crackdown a few years ago after the NYPost took pictures of some of these disabled railroadmen golfing with their employee discounts at public golf courses.
But still...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (uCjyK)
A dodge I heard in CA was to retire, do the triple dip to get a huge pension then get rehired as a consultant to do the same job for even more money, plus pension.
But still...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 05:33 PM (uCjyK)
A dodge I heard in CA was to retire, do the triple dip to get a huge pension then get rehired as a consultant to do the same job for even more money, plus pension.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 05:35 PM (8avO+)
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173 Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
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No. I detest the tease. If it truly is a scandal, I'll hear about it.
@LauraLoomer
Today, I will be releasing an explosive story about a member of Congress who is undermining Congressional investigations and President Trump’s agenda at the behest of a foreign nation.
Be sure you’re following my account over the next 48 hours. This is going to be a scandal.
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No. I detest the tease. If it truly is a scandal, I'll hear about it.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 14, 2025 05:42 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Thesgm at July 14, 2025 05:44 PM (f+hZi)
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349 Apparently.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 05:45 PM (NaR/G)
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Neither of the displayed signs are taped to a mirror, PBS. This is why no one respects you.
Posted by: GWB at July 14, 2025 07:04 PM (+4DHB)
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We need to resist fascism! Start with getting rid of unappointed and unaccountable people who have lifetime jobs and the ability to tell us all what to do.
But hey, at least they spelled fascism correctly.
But hey, at least they spelled fascism correctly.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 14, 2025 07:32 PM (gDhA9)
ICE Prepares Plan to Deport Illegals to Third-Party Countries With As Little As Six Hours Notice
A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," has just declared the Home Depots, car washes, and other places that illegal aliens hide are safe havens that ICE agents are forbidden to enter. She also ruled that before anyone can even ask about an illegal's status, he must first have a "reasonable suspicion" that he's illegal. In other words: She's demanding that judges approve all arrests of illegals ahead-of-time.
Illegal immigrants could be given as little as six hours notice before they are deported to a country other than their homeland, according to a new memo. Todd Lyons, the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and a top Trump administration lieutenant, issued a directive to agency staff on Wednesday, July 9, outlining the direction of deportations moving forward. He said migrants could be deported to a 'third country' with as little as six hours notice 'in exigent circumstances' -- so long as the person had been given an opportunity to speak with an attorney. Generally, an immigrant will be given 24 hours notice before they are sent to a country other than their homeland. The memo states that migrants could be sent to nations that have pledged not to persecute or torture them 'without the need for further procedures.' The United States has sent hundreds of migrants to Costa Rica, El Salvador and Panama, while South Sudan recently accepted eight third--country deportees. These deportees were from Cuba, Laos, Mexico, Myanmar, Sudan and Vietnam.
President Donald Trump's administration suffered a blow on Friday when a federal judge concluded that federal agents had been "unlawfully" arresting suspected illegal migrants in Los Angeles and six surrounding counties. Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, imposed two temporary restraining orders banning law enforcement from detaining suspected illegal migrants in the area without reasonable suspicion and insisting those arrested must have access to legal counsel. Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Newsweek in a statement: "A district judge is undermining the will of the American people." ...
On Friday Judge Frimpong concluded there was "a mountain of evidence" that federal agents had been arresting people solely based on characteristics such as race, employment and accent, which she termed a violation of the Fourth Amendment that prohibits unreasonable seizures by the government. Referring to some arrests in Los Angeles and the six counties Frimpong said: "The seizures at issue occurred unlawfully." Two temporary restraining orders were issued by the judge banning federal agents in Los Angeles and surrounding counties from making arrests without reasonable suspicion those detained were in the country illegally, and requiring arrestees to get swift access to lawyers.
BREAKING - Biden-appointed judge, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, has just made a ruling that marks Home Depots, car washes, and other locations where illegals hide as safe havens in LA blocking ICE from making arrests at those locations. pic.twitter.com/zVn9lZHJgl
— Right Angle News Network (@Rightanglenews) July 10, 2025
As ICE agents face a 700% increase in assaults—including ambushes by armed assailants—@RepJeffries refuses to condemn the violent rhetoric of Radical Left Dems.
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) July 9, 2025
"'There needs to be blood' ... How do you respond to that?"
JEFFRIES: Trump is assaulting the American way of life. pic.twitter.com/GdBI4UFzOf
Related: DataRepublican points out, again, that illegal immigrant workers are not in fact cheap at all. They're cheap for their illegal employers -- but expensive for the taxpayers who are forced to subsidize them.
Tom Homan is tired of the sissyboys:
DataRepublican (small r)
@DataRepublican According to data from the Center for Immigration Studies (pro-immigrant), many immigrants work for extremely low wages, which are then subsidized by taxpayers through public assistance. The argument that "someone has to pick your lettuce" is dead; there is no "cheap labor" only corporate subsidies at our taxpayer expense. It might even end up being cheaper for businesses holistically when they are forced to pay actual market wages rather than depending on roundabout benefits. 🔸 54% of immigrant-headed households use at least one major welfare program, compared to 39% of U.S.-born households. 🔸 Non-citizen households (e.g., green card holders and illegal immigrants) show the highest usage at 59%. 🔸 Compared to U.S.-born households, immigrant households show elevated usage in:
- Food assistance programs: 36% vs. 25%
- Medicaid: 37% vs. 25%
- Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC): 16% vs. 12% 🔸 Illegal immigrants can receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children, while children who are illegal immigrants themselves are eligible for school meals and WIC. 🔸 Several states provide Medicaid or SNAP to some illegal immigrants, and millions of undocumented immigrants with work permits (DACA, TPS, asylum applicants) qualify for EITC. 🔸 Removing low-cost programs like school meals and WIC from the analysis still shows 46% of immigrant households vs. 33% of U.S.-born households use at least one remaining major program. 🔸 Workforce participation is high: 83% of immigrant households and 94% of illegal immigrant households have at least one worker.
🚨 JUST IN: Tom Homan DEMOLISHES a heckler interrupting his speech at TPUSA
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) July 12, 2025
HOMAN: “This guy doesn't have the balls to be an ICE officer!"
"The ONLY thing that surprises me is that he doesn’t have purple hair and a nose ring"
"I GUARANTEE you this guy sits down to pee” 🤣🔥 pic.twitter.com/tEQEyGICS3
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What?
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 03:31 PM (YwEeS)
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How the fuck does some judge make areas off limits to Federal law enforcement?
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 03:32 PM (YwEeS)
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Mark Krikorian's Center for Immigration Studies is not all that pro-immigrant.
Posted by: Egg Shen, Bus Philosophiser at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (UH65p)
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Biden-appointed judge, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
What the hell part of Merica did she come from?
What the hell part of Merica did she come from?
Posted by: barkie at July 14, 2025 03:34 PM (5yGIt)
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"Get out on your own, or you go to South Sudan."
Really, this will be directed at people that their home countries won't accept back (murders and other criminals), but it's a great message to spread throughout the illegal immigrant community.
Maria, cleaning houses and otherwise keeping her nose clean, might just say, "I'm not risking it. I'm going back to Guatemala."
Really, this will be directed at people that their home countries won't accept back (murders and other criminals), but it's a great message to spread throughout the illegal immigrant community.
Maria, cleaning houses and otherwise keeping her nose clean, might just say, "I'm not risking it. I'm going back to Guatemala."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 14, 2025 03:34 PM (PSEDc)
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"Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong"
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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7 "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong"
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
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A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," has just declared the Home Depots, car washes, and other places that illegal aliens hide are safe havens that ICE agents are forbidden to enter.
Poe's Law strikes again. I was sure that was signature Ace snark until I scrolled down a bit.
Poe's Law strikes again. I was sure that was signature Ace snark until I scrolled down a bit.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (/y8xj)
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Illegals have no legal protections.
If Trump wanted to have them summarily shot he could, and frankly that is more normally how you handle invaders historically.
If Trump wanted to have them summarily shot he could, and frankly that is more normally how you handle invaders historically.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," ...
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Ace really has a penchant & gift for creating funny fake names.
I mean, that is a fake name right?
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Ace really has a penchant & gift for creating funny fake names.
I mean, that is a fake name right?
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (oDm7W)
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>>>A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong,"
Quick, we need more LEGAL immigrants! Diversity is our strength!
(I'm just kidding, I know Maame comes from the old New England family of Frimpong's who have been here since the 1600's).
Quick, we need more LEGAL immigrants! Diversity is our strength!
(I'm just kidding, I know Maame comes from the old New England family of Frimpong's who have been here since the 1600's).
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (uCjyK)
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10 Illegals have no legal protections.
If Trump wanted to have them summarily shot he could, and frankly that is more normally how you handle invaders historically.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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Well, that's all wrong. But other than that, it's all right.
If Trump wanted to have them summarily shot he could, and frankly that is more normally how you handle invaders historically.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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Well, that's all wrong. But other than that, it's all right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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OK!
All you hombres line up and count off by dos'!
All unos get on that plane to Moscow.
All dos's get on that plane to Kiev.
Hasta la vista Amigos!
All you hombres line up and count off by dos'!
All unos get on that plane to Moscow.
All dos's get on that plane to Kiev.
Hasta la vista Amigos!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (W/lyH)
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Speed bump to be knocked down quickly
Posted by: Zeera. I voted for ALL of this at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (zPuD7)
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Her name is Mammy? Really?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (b17NP)
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In response to Tom Homan, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong said, “muak hua click click click!”
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (u73oe)
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"Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong"
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
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"See? I told you dumb lazy Americans."
-- Vivek R
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I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
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"See? I told you dumb lazy Americans."
-- Vivek R
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Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (iFTx/)
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If they really think they're a refugee case, The can sit in a third world prison for processing or they can go home anytime. Choice is the illegal alien's.
Posted by: Eddie Baby at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (s19xO)
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🔸 54% of immigrant-headed households use at least one major welfare program, compared to 39% of U.S.-born households.
So is this counting legal AND illegal immigrants?
So is this counting legal AND illegal immigrants?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (t0Rmr)
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I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, weird how when we import people from the highest castes in their home countries, they come here and treat anyone they view as "beneath" them the same way they do in their home countries.
I don't know much about the court system in Ghana, but I imagine it operates on much more of a "who you know" and corrupt class/caste-based basis than the American Court system (traditionally) does.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, weird how when we import people from the highest castes in their home countries, they come here and treat anyone they view as "beneath" them the same way they do in their home countries.
I don't know much about the court system in Ghana, but I imagine it operates on much more of a "who you know" and corrupt class/caste-based basis than the American Court system (traditionally) does.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (uCjyK)
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I predict this judge will soon be known as "Judge Ping-Pong."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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14 Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Is he from the Richmond Frimpongs?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
I believe she's from the Greenwich Frimpongs, they winter in Palm Beach I heard.
Is he from the Richmond Frimpongs?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
I believe she's from the Greenwich Frimpongs, they winter in Palm Beach I heard.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (gpah0)
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20 If they really think they're a refugee case, The can sit in a third world prison for processing or they can go home anytime. Choice is the illegal alien's.
Posted by: Eddie Baby at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (s19xO)
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"All of these people are like Anne Frank, and Nazi-like genocides are happening around the world right now, which is why we have to let everyone in."
Posted by: Eddie Baby at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (s19xO)
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"All of these people are like Anne Frank, and Nazi-like genocides are happening around the world right now, which is why we have to let everyone in."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
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Mama Wooshy-Mensa Pingpong can blow it out her ear!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (NWqJf)
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So "judge" JimmyJammy WhammySlammy has enough time on it's hands to rule this or that about that and this.
Maybe time to abolish some of these "judges" positions as they seem to have a lot of free time on their hands to meddle in shit that has nothing to do with them or those.
Maybe time to abolish some of these "judges" positions as they seem to have a lot of free time on their hands to meddle in shit that has nothing to do with them or those.
Posted by: Deport Her Ass Too at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (rfMRc)
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Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong Is the judge who until recently said ni.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (u73oe)
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"All of these people are like Anne Frank, and Nazi-like genocides are happening around the world right now, which is why we have to let everyone in."
The best part of this line from the left is the US government has friendly relations with pretty much all of these countries.
"All of these people are like Anne Frank, and Nazi-like genocides are happening around the world right now, which is why we have to let everyone in."
The best part of this line from the left is the US government has friendly relations with pretty much all of these countries.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (t0Rmr)
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A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," has just declared the Home Depots, car washes, and other places that illegal aliens hide are safe havens that ICE agents are forbidden to enter.
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Maybe I'm being to clever by half but the illegal aliens are not "hiding" in those places. They want to be seen looking for work.
ICE: Judge Frimpong, they were not hiding at the Home Depot. Quite the opposite.
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Maybe I'm being to clever by half but the illegal aliens are not "hiding" in those places. They want to be seen looking for work.
ICE: Judge Frimpong, they were not hiding at the Home Depot. Quite the opposite.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (G0vdT)
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I thought at first you made up that name for comic effect, Ace, but noooo.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (2GCMq)
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she was with Millennium Challenge Corporation; US AID has a sibling !
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (g47mK)
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There needs to be blood' ... How do you respond to that?"
JEFFRIES: Trump is assaulting the American way of life.
The American way of life is doing just fine. Come to my little town Hakeem and spout that sh*t. Let's see how that goes.
(better bring a few friends, you made need them)\
JEFFRIES: Trump is assaulting the American way of life.
The American way of life is doing just fine. Come to my little town Hakeem and spout that sh*t. Let's see how that goes.
(better bring a few friends, you made need them)\
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (W/lyH)
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Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (77rzZ)
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23 I predict this judge will soon be known as "Judge Ping-Pong."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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I'm partial to Judge Ding-Dong.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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I'm partial to Judge Ding-Dong.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (G0vdT)
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34 Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (77rzZ)
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"It's a bit much."
-George Lucas
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (77rzZ)
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"It's a bit much."
-George Lucas
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)
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Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong...
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"Fundamentally non-serious" choice. I looked so you didn't have to.
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"Fundamentally non-serious" choice. I looked so you didn't have to.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (TN0g+)
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"The ONLY thing that surprises me is that he doesn’t have purple hair and a nose ring"
10,000% tariff on clown colored hair dye?
10,000% tariff on clown colored hair dye?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (pIfcn)
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Someone needs to investigate the immigration status of this MammyJammer FriggPong very, very, very thoroughly.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (qpyNK)
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> Biden-appointed judge, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, has just made a ruling that marks Home Depots, car washes, and other locations where illegals hide as safe havens in LA blocking ICE from making arrests at those locations.
So stage your guys just outside of those locations and hire someone to run through screaming, "LA MIGRA!!" Scoop them up when they run to you.
So stage your guys just outside of those locations and hire someone to run through screaming, "LA MIGRA!!" Scoop them up when they run to you.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (lIio7)
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I wonder if this is part of the humiliation kink for the Ruling Class / Deep State.
Having people named Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong lord over us as little dictators in robes.
Well, I guess it's not really a kink. They like watching us be bossed around by the ruling class from the third world. They don't have to deal with that.
Having people named Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong lord over us as little dictators in robes.
Well, I guess it's not really a kink. They like watching us be bossed around by the ruling class from the third world. They don't have to deal with that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (uCjyK)
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35 23 I predict this judge will soon be known as "Judge Ping-Pong."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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I'm partial to Judge Ding-Dong.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM
I second Judge Ding Dong.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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I'm partial to Judge Ding-Dong.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM
I second Judge Ding Dong.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (gpah0)
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Is Federal law enforcement like tag with safe areas? I wasn't aware of that rule.
Posted by: MJR at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (spihY)
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How many republican senators voted to confirm her?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (u73oe)
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More of this.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (N1DT3)
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California judge. Figures.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (2GCMq)
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I'm so freaking tired of foreigners infesting our legal system.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (77rzZ)
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Serious question, are there citizens in the Home Depot parking lot looking for work as day laborers?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (pIfcn)
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (Qr870)
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Can we denaturalize this judge?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (NWqJf)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (lIio7)
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How many children will die because Trump is Darth Vader ?
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (aKoaI)
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Maria, cleaning houses and otherwise keeping her nose clean, might just say, "I'm not risking it. I'm going back to Guatemala."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Sounds good to me.
Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Maria, cleaning houses and otherwise keeping her nose clean, might just say, "I'm not risking it. I'm going back to Guatemala."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Sounds good to me.
Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (omVj0)
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A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," ...
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Ace really has a penchant & gift for creating funny fake names.
I mean, that is a fake name right?
Posted by: ShainS at
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That's what I thought, then I goggled it. She's real!
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Ace really has a penchant & gift for creating funny fake names.
I mean, that is a fake name right?
Posted by: ShainS at
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That's what I thought, then I goggled it. She's real!
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (UjdFS)
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BREAKING - Biden-appointed judge, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, has just made a ruling that marks Home Depots, car washes, and other locations where illegals hide as safe havens in LA blocking ICE from making arrests at those locations.
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Ooh, you might not ever get rich
But let me tell you it's better than a Cartel ditch
There ain't no telling who you might rape
A movie star or maybe a tranny wearing a cape
Hangin' at the car wash
Sanctuary car washin', yeah
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Ooh, you might not ever get rich
But let me tell you it's better than a Cartel ditch
There ain't no telling who you might rape
A movie star or maybe a tranny wearing a cape
Hangin' at the car wash
Sanctuary car washin', yeah
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (oDm7W)
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I predict this judge will soon be known as "Judge Ping-Pong."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
She delivers her rulings in singsong.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
She delivers her rulings in singsong.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (77rzZ)
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> Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
And yeah, I too thought at first that this was a parody name that Ace thought up.
And yeah, I too thought at first that this was a parody name that Ace thought up.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (qpyNK)
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Frimpong
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That's what it's called when you fire a ping pong out of your hoo-ha, right?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025
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"Quimpong." "Frimpong" is the Ghana dialect variant.
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That's what it's called when you fire a ping pong out of your hoo-ha, right?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025
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"Quimpong." "Frimpong" is the Ghana dialect variant.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (omVj0)
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45 How many republican senators voted to confirm her?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (u73oe)
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Ooo...
Good question. I like these questions.
Oh, this one will piss people off.
She was appointed with 46 votes. How is that possible? 24 voted against her.
The rest?
Just didn't show up.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (u73oe)
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Ooo...
Good question. I like these questions.
Oh, this one will piss people off.
She was appointed with 46 votes. How is that possible? 24 voted against her.
The rest?
Just didn't show up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)
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Tell them it's just a free trip to Disneyland.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (aKoaI)
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On December 17, 2021, the United States Senate invoked cloture on her nomination by a 47–24 vote.Her nomination was confirmed later that day by a 46–24 vote. She received her judicial commission on February 7, 2022.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (t0Rmr)
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49 Serious question, are there citizens in the Home Depot parking lot looking for work as day laborers?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (pIfcn)
Of course not. And if there were, no one would hire them because they'd assume they were an escaped convict or something.
Keep in mind, everyone involved is breaking the law. So you hire people who aren't going to dime on you to the department of labor. Obviously.
That means illegals who barely speak English and are not aware that even though they're illegally here, DoL regulations apply to them too. Which is why we need a steady stream of new illegals to keep this disgusting practice going.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (pIfcn)
Of course not. And if there were, no one would hire them because they'd assume they were an escaped convict or something.
Keep in mind, everyone involved is breaking the law. So you hire people who aren't going to dime on you to the department of labor. Obviously.
That means illegals who barely speak English and are not aware that even though they're illegally here, DoL regulations apply to them too. Which is why we need a steady stream of new illegals to keep this disgusting practice going.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (uCjyK)
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49 Serious question, are there citizens in the Home Depot parking lot looking for work as day laborers?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer
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Yes or illegals looking for others to fill out their crews for a subcontracting job.
Had a guy move here from a metro area complain that cheap illegals were not hanging around the local Home Depot/Lowes so he could hire them to do some yardwork etc.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer
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Yes or illegals looking for others to fill out their crews for a subcontracting job.
Had a guy move here from a metro area complain that cheap illegals were not hanging around the local Home Depot/Lowes so he could hire them to do some yardwork etc.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:45 PM (ctrM5)
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Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (77rzZ)
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Maame is a popular girl's name in the Ghana region. It's from their tribal language. It's kinda like "Madam" but used as a name. The Blade dated a Maame once.
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (77rzZ)
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Maame is a popular girl's name in the Ghana region. It's from their tribal language. It's kinda like "Madam" but used as a name. The Blade dated a Maame once.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (N1DT3)
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The Supreme Court cleared the way for the Education Department to fire half of its workforce on Monday, a move that advances President Donald Trump's plans to dismantle the department.
The high court's decision in McMahon v. State of New York was issued 6-3 along ideological lines.
The high court's decision in McMahon v. State of New York was issued 6-3 along ideological lines.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (RHGPo)
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54% of immigrant-headed households use at least one major welfare program, compared to 39% of U.S.-born households.
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"Immigrant"
I don't think that word means what they th8nk it means.
Especially when used in contrast to "U.S. born".
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"Immigrant"
I don't think that word means what they th8nk it means.
Especially when used in contrast to "U.S. born".
Posted by: New Name at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (/lPRQ)
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Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (omVj0)
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Including the judges who are hiring them as housecleaners and landscapers.
Make an example of THEM and the problem will go away tomorrow.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (omVj0)
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Including the judges who are hiring them as housecleaners and landscapers.
Make an example of THEM and the problem will go away tomorrow.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (7fElN)
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Hangin' at the car wash
Sanctuary car washin', yeah
Posted by: ShainS
I got them suddenly depressing,
Lowdown mind-messing
Hiding at the carwash blues.
Sanctuary car washin', yeah
Posted by: ShainS
I got them suddenly depressing,
Lowdown mind-messing
Hiding at the carwash blues.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (G0vdT)
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According to the most recent SCOTUS decision on the subject, Congress may set rules for the treatment of Illegals which would be unacceptable if applied to citizens. So earlier SCOTUS cases that held illegals have Constitutional rights, have been overturned.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (Da7Vv)
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Judge Red Snapper Maame Ewusi-Mensah Poontang
Posted by: Jack Meehoff at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (q/j2W)
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55 Sounds good to me.
Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (omVj0)
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You know how DOGE found millions and millions of extra SSNs?
The Biden administration was handing them out to illegals like candy. That was one part of the whole thing.
These people have valid SSNs. Their I9s are legit. Maybe the employer knows it's all a sham, but they have legal protection.
Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (omVj0)
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You know how DOGE found millions and millions of extra SSNs?
The Biden administration was handing them out to illegals like candy. That was one part of the whole thing.
These people have valid SSNs. Their I9s are legit. Maybe the employer knows it's all a sham, but they have legal protection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)
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Is Maame a version of Mamie or Mimi?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (Ry3Y5)
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I predict this judge will soon be known as "Judge Ping-Pong."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
I would prefer Judge "Cross Checked."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
I would prefer Judge "Cross Checked."
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (/U5Yz)
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ShainS,
That was pretty good.
That was pretty good.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (W/lyH)
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Mensah "Candidate" Frimoong
Mensah "Candidate" Frimoong
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (Qr870)
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The only thing she's missing are lip plates.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (UjdFS)
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I'm sure a lowly district court judge is preparing a national injunction even before the plan is formalized.
Well, look, I'm willing to cut it to three hours notice...
Well, look, I'm willing to cut it to three hours notice...
Posted by: t-bird at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (NQHDP)
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Nothing says "working hard for you voters" like a vote for a judicial candidate where 30% of the Senate doesn't bother to vote.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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Mammmmmyyyy.... how I love ya how I love ya
Posted by: Illegals at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (Qr870)
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69 The Supreme Court cleared the way for the Education Department to fire half of its workforce on Monday, a move that advances President Donald Trump's plans to dismantle the department.
so can they do half, then a day later do half again (of the remaining half), etc etc?
so the DofE I guess never disappears but at some point there's just like, an ear in the department
so can they do half, then a day later do half again (of the remaining half), etc etc?
so the DofE I guess never disappears but at some point there's just like, an ear in the department
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Cuomo is staying in the NYC mayor's race . The ego of that guy is insane. Hello Mayor Mamdani
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Biden-appointed judge, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, has just made a ruling that marks Home Depots, car washes, and other locations where illegals hide as safe havens in LA blocking ICE from making arrests at those locations.
You coax the blues right out of the horn, Mame
You charm the husk right off of the corn, Mame
You coax the blues right out of the horn, Mame
You charm the husk right off of the corn, Mame
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (wVcYX)
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Sounds good to me.
Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Asset forfeiture. Same as drug dealers.
Mr. Businessman makes his money hiring illegals? He loses his business same as a drug dealer loses his ride or his home.
Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Asset forfeiture. Same as drug dealers.
Mr. Businessman makes his money hiring illegals? He loses his business same as a drug dealer loses his ride or his home.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (+bLMA)
90
It's interesting in my link above (to me anyway) not only to see where the retards *are* protesting but where they *aren't*. There doesn't appear to be a strong correlation to city / town size, or whether or not there is a nearby university.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (ULPxl)
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69 The Supreme Court cleared the way for the Education Department to fire half of its workforce on Monday, a move that advances President Donald Trump's plans to dismantle the department.
The high court's decision in McMahon v. State of New York was issued 6-3 along ideological lines.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (RHGPo)
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I can't wait to see more wailing of the womens.
Remember, no one gives a shit if Microsoft lays off 9000 people in one swoop. It won't affect anyone's voting preferences.
But the media will treat a couple thousand restructuring lay offs from the federal government as earth shattering and the death of the Republican Party.
I assert: People treat news of fed layoffs better than they treat the news of manufacturing layoffs in a town they've never heard of in a state they've never been to.
People don't like feds.
The high court's decision in McMahon v. State of New York was issued 6-3 along ideological lines.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 03:46 PM (RHGPo)
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I can't wait to see more wailing of the womens.
Remember, no one gives a shit if Microsoft lays off 9000 people in one swoop. It won't affect anyone's voting preferences.
But the media will treat a couple thousand restructuring lay offs from the federal government as earth shattering and the death of the Republican Party.
I assert: People treat news of fed layoffs better than they treat the news of manufacturing layoffs in a town they've never heard of in a state they've never been to.
People don't like feds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
92
Can judges be deported along with the illegals they love?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (kTd/k)
93
Willowed:
It's right there in the Home Depot Clause of the Constitution.
Posted by: Boss Moss
That's where they talk about Drills of Attainder, right?
Posted by: Bulg
It's right there in the Home Depot Clause of the Constitution.
Posted by: Boss Moss
That's where they talk about Drills of Attainder, right?
Posted by: Bulg
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (77rzZ)
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Cuomo is staying in the NYC mayor's race . The ego of that guy is insane. Hello Mayor Mamdani
NYC is going to look like that Batman movie where Bain takes control of the city...
NYC is going to look like that Batman movie where Bain takes control of the city...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (t0Rmr)
95
You know how DOGE found millions and millions of extra SSNs?
The Biden administration was handing them out to illegals like candy. That was one part of the whole thing.
These people have valid SSNs. Their I9s are legit. Maybe the employer knows it's all a sham, but they have legal protection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)
And it's discrimination to ask for any documents beyond what's demanded on the i9. So even if you think the person is illegal and their documents are fake, or that they're not truly a US citizen, you're not allowed to enquire further assuming they furnished some kind of documents.
The Biden administration was handing them out to illegals like candy. That was one part of the whole thing.
These people have valid SSNs. Their I9s are legit. Maybe the employer knows it's all a sham, but they have legal protection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)
And it's discrimination to ask for any documents beyond what's demanded on the i9. So even if you think the person is illegal and their documents are fake, or that they're not truly a US citizen, you're not allowed to enquire further assuming they furnished some kind of documents.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (uCjyK)
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BTW "migrants" is back to being verboten, being tainted with the stink of, well, migrants.
The new word is (seriously) - "Irregular Immigrants".
The new word is (seriously) - "Irregular Immigrants".
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (Qr870)
97
I got them suddenly depressing,
Lowdown mind-messing
Hiding at the carwash blues.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025
***
Lemme tell ya, it's always cool,
And the boss don't mind sometimes if you
Got no green card
Lowdown mind-messing
Hiding at the carwash blues.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025
***
Lemme tell ya, it's always cool,
And the boss don't mind sometimes if you
Got no green card
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (omVj0)
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I think the only time that they should have to delay with deportations is as long as it takes to confirm if someone is here illegally or not. I can prove I am a legal citizen in like 2 minutes. You cannot even get a driver's license in Oregon without a birth certificate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (dfIr7)
99
Japan's birth rate is about to go so far negative, it'll result in an integer underflow.
http://tiny.cc/pedp001
http://tiny.cc/pedp001
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (lIio7)
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I assert: People treat news of fed layoffs better than they treat the news of manufacturing layoffs in a town they've never heard of in a state they've never been to.
Those MSFT employees weren't being paid by your tax dollars. The fed workers are.
I assert: People treat news of fed layoffs better than they treat the news of manufacturing layoffs in a town they've never heard of in a state they've never been to.
Those MSFT employees weren't being paid by your tax dollars. The fed workers are.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (t0Rmr)
101
Does she know the "Witch Doctor"? I think he is saying her name.
Posted by: Someguysomewhere at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (v9DK0)
102
I mentioned this earlier but, 69 of the 110 attorneys in the department of the DOJ that specialize in defending the government have left or are resigning.
(For our readers in Rio Linda, that's 63%)
These are the ones who are supposed to be the most skilled at defending the US government.
But they don't want to defend ... Trump.
Lots of whining about how they took an oath to defend the Constitution (but not unconstitutional Trump, implied).
And more whining about fearing they'll have to lie or misrepresent to the courts (because everyone know Trump lies, implied).
And even more whining about the ethical rules.
But, I guess not the ethical obligation to zealously represent their client?
All them whiney leftie fags gone and Trump is still winning.
Fat losers out, winning bigly in.
(For our readers in Rio Linda, that's 63%)
These are the ones who are supposed to be the most skilled at defending the US government.
But they don't want to defend ... Trump.
Lots of whining about how they took an oath to defend the Constitution (but not unconstitutional Trump, implied).
And more whining about fearing they'll have to lie or misrepresent to the courts (because everyone know Trump lies, implied).
And even more whining about the ethical rules.
But, I guess not the ethical obligation to zealously represent their client?
All them whiney leftie fags gone and Trump is still winning.
Fat losers out, winning bigly in.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (JThEY)
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ICE Prepares to Deport 75% of LA population.....
City declares bankruptcy and asks Trump to bail them out
City declares bankruptcy and asks Trump to bail them out
Posted by: Jack Meehoff at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (q/j2W)
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Asset forfeiture. Same as drug dealers.
Mr. Businessman makes his money hiring illegals? He loses his business same as a drug dealer loses his ride or his home.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (+bLMA)
100% behind this.
Mr. Businessman makes his money hiring illegals? He loses his business same as a drug dealer loses his ride or his home.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:48 PM (+bLMA)
100% behind this.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (N1DT3)
105
Rubio needs to can that many 'workers' weekly.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (/U5Yz)
106
AWFL Karen judges aren't so great, either:
https://is.gd/WjiCaB
@Rightanglenews
BREAKING - Progressive DA Amy Padden of Colorado plans to drop all charges against Solomon Galligan who attempted to kidnap a child near Black Forest Hills Elementary due to "mental incompetency".
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https://is.gd/WjiCaB
@Rightanglenews
BREAKING - Progressive DA Amy Padden of Colorado plans to drop all charges against Solomon Galligan who attempted to kidnap a child near Black Forest Hills Elementary due to "mental incompetency".
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Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (ULPxl)
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102 All them whiney leftie fags gone and Trump is still winning.
Fat losers out, winning bigly in.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (JThEY)
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Obama and Holder made a very concentrated attempt to change the DOJ from the ground up through hiring practices.
Their minions in the DOJ have spent the last few months trying to win by losing. I don't think it'll work.
Fat losers out, winning bigly in.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (JThEY)
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Obama and Holder made a very concentrated attempt to change the DOJ from the ground up through hiring practices.
Their minions in the DOJ have spent the last few months trying to win by losing. I don't think it'll work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm sure nothing will go wrong with any of this.
* folds arms *
@HSajwanization 1h
JUST IN - U.S. DoD awards xAI and Grok a $200 million contract to "modernize" the Defense Department. — Disclose TV
* folds arms *
@HSajwanization 1h
JUST IN - U.S. DoD awards xAI and Grok a $200 million contract to "modernize" the Defense Department. — Disclose TV
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (8l8nW)
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> 99 Japan's birth rate is about to go so far negative, it'll result in an integer underflow.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (lIio7)
I volunteer to inseminate any and all cute Japanese girls.
Because I'm giving that way.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (lIio7)
I volunteer to inseminate any and all cute Japanese girls.
Because I'm giving that way.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (qpyNK)
111
Judge Ooo Eee Ooo Ah Ah Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing Bang holds you all in contempt of court!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (L/fGl)
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BTW "migrants" is back to being verboten, being tainted with the stink of, well, migrants.
The new word is (seriously) - "Irregular Immigrants".
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I can fix their irregularity!
The new word is (seriously) - "Irregular Immigrants".
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I can fix their irregularity!
Posted by: Metamucil at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (TN0g+)
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The Blade dated a Maame once.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
You are such a slut.
It's weird. The first name and hyphenated middle name look African, but "Frimpong" looks Southeast-Asian to me.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
You are such a slut.
It's weird. The first name and hyphenated middle name look African, but "Frimpong" looks Southeast-Asian to me.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (77rzZ)
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The memo states that migrants could be sent to nations that have pledged not to persecute or torture them…
Is that a requirement , or more like a nice-to-have?
-asking for a friend
Is that a requirement , or more like a nice-to-have?
-asking for a friend
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 03:53 PM (advWG)
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Progressive DA Amy Padden of Colorado plans to drop all charges against Solomon Galligan who attempted to kidnap a child near Black Forest Hills Elementary due to "mental incompetency".
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (ULPxl)
Mental incompetency is a great explanation for why she's dropping the charges.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (ULPxl)
Mental incompetency is a great explanation for why she's dropping the charges.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 03:53 PM (Qr870)
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BTW "migrants" is back to being verboten, being tainted with the stink of, well, migrants.
The new word is (seriously) - "Irregular Immigrants".
Posted by: ..
Wetback. Always has been, always will be.
Especially since the Federal Government named an operation after them. Yeah. Operation Wetback was a real thing.
The new word is (seriously) - "Irregular Immigrants".
Posted by: ..
Wetback. Always has been, always will be.
Especially since the Federal Government named an operation after them. Yeah. Operation Wetback was a real thing.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:53 PM (+bLMA)
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Judge Ooo Eee Ooo Ah Ah Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing Bang holds you all in contempt of court!
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I think we've made our contempt pretty clear.
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I think we've made our contempt pretty clear.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:53 PM (TN0g+)
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So stage your guys just outside of those locations and hire someone to run through screaming, "LA MIGRA!!" Scoop them up when they run to you.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (lIio7)
Exactly. All it means is that ICE has to change their tactics until the deranged c*nt gets overturned.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (lIio7)
Exactly. All it means is that ICE has to change their tactics until the deranged c*nt gets overturned.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:53 PM (b47tW)
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The left: Why do you wingnuts think we are all soft on pedos?
Also the left: BREAKING - Progressive DA Amy Padden of Colorado plans to drop all charges against Solomon Galligan who attempted to kidnap a child near Black Forest Hills Elementary due to "mental incompetency".
Also the left: BREAKING - Progressive DA Amy Padden of Colorado plans to drop all charges against Solomon Galligan who attempted to kidnap a child near Black Forest Hills Elementary due to "mental incompetency".
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:53 PM (t0Rmr)
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Judge Ooo Eee Ooo Ah Ah Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing Bang holds you all in contempt of court!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (L/fGl)
Whoaa whoaaa whoooa....
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (L/fGl)
Whoaa whoaaa whoooa....
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 03:53 PM (Qr870)
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Judge Mama Told Me Not To Come needs to step away slowly from those gator-infested waters wherein she is now wading.
Judge Mama Told Me Not To Come needs to step away slowly from those gator-infested waters wherein she is now wading.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 03:54 PM (xG4kz)
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109 Do illegals not hang out at Lowe's looking for work? This is always confusing to me.
Posted by: the dandy
Home Depot has more shadows?
Posted by: the dandy
Home Depot has more shadows?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:54 PM (/U5Yz)
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Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Uh ok. People with names like shouldn't be allowed to hold office anywhere in the US.
Uh ok. People with names like shouldn't be allowed to hold office anywhere in the US.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 03:54 PM (snZF9)
124
How many illegals has this Mensa candidate judge employed or is currently employing? Let’s dig up some dirt on her!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 03:54 PM (NWqJf)
125
Uh ok. People with names like shouldn't be allowed to hold office anywhere in the US.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 03:54 PM (snZF9)
I thought we loved legal immigrants.
Also, don't worry, she's a US citizen. She was born here. Her parents were the immigrants.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 03:54 PM (snZF9)
I thought we loved legal immigrants.
Also, don't worry, she's a US citizen. She was born here. Her parents were the immigrants.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Let's think up a good American name for Judge Ding-Dong.
Tiphanee Kallikak has a good ring to it.
Tiphanee Kallikak has a good ring to it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 14, 2025 03:55 PM (qpyNK)
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Progressive DA Amy Padden of Colorado plans to drop all charges against Solomon Galligan who attempted to kidnap a child near Black Forest Hills Elementary due to "mental incompetency".
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She's "pro-choice" and endorsed by Bernie Sanders.
So yes, under the spell of demons.
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She's "pro-choice" and endorsed by Bernie Sanders.
So yes, under the spell of demons.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:55 PM (TN0g+)
128
The same left that, for decades, derided "Walmart wages," citing their low wages that forced many of their employees to also be on welfare--subsidizing Walmart, they howled--are the same lefties demanding all of us subsidize ... the low wages of agricultural, hotel, and janitorial corporations.
So, when you want cheap food and household goods, you're evil for supporting the wage exploitation of the workers.
But when they want cheap farmer's markets, hotel rooms and maid services, exploiting the cheap wages of the workers, they are noble and good.
So, when you want cheap food and household goods, you're evil for supporting the wage exploitation of the workers.
But when they want cheap farmer's markets, hotel rooms and maid services, exploiting the cheap wages of the workers, they are noble and good.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 03:55 PM (JThEY)
129
Japan's birth rate is about to go so far negative, it'll result in an integer underflow.
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OMG! Where will we get the little paper umbrellas to put in our drinks?
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OMG! Where will we get the little paper umbrellas to put in our drinks?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 03:55 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 03:55 PM (2GCMq)
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Do illegals not hang out at Lowe's looking for work?
Lowes is a chick home decoration store. Home Depot is where all the contractors go.
Lowes is a chick home decoration store. Home Depot is where all the contractors go.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (dfIr7)
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>>> 95 You know how DOGE found millions and millions of extra SSNs?
The Biden administration was handing them out to illegals like candy. That was one part of the whole thing.
These people have valid SSNs. Their I9s are legit. Maybe the employer knows it's all a sham, but they have legal protection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)
And it's discrimination to ask for any documents beyond what's demanded on the i9. So even if you think the person is illegal and their documents are fake, or that they're not truly a US citizen, you're not allowed to enquire further assuming they furnished some kind of documents.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (uCjyK)
Serious question - are you allowed to ask if they speak, and read, English? Because feralgov *does* require CDL drivers (for one example) to be able to read road signs, although as we know Brandon and crew ignored that.
The Biden administration was handing them out to illegals like candy. That was one part of the whole thing.
These people have valid SSNs. Their I9s are legit. Maybe the employer knows it's all a sham, but they have legal protection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)
And it's discrimination to ask for any documents beyond what's demanded on the i9. So even if you think the person is illegal and their documents are fake, or that they're not truly a US citizen, you're not allowed to enquire further assuming they furnished some kind of documents.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (uCjyK)
Serious question - are you allowed to ask if they speak, and read, English? Because feralgov *does* require CDL drivers (for one example) to be able to read road signs, although as we know Brandon and crew ignored that.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (ULPxl)
133
"Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong"
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Can we trade her for some Ghanaian Dancing Pallbearers?
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Can we trade her for some Ghanaian Dancing Pallbearers?
Posted by: mikeski at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (DgGvY)
134
Trump is doing this all wrong.
• Tell Russia that Ukraine has chosen to accept deported illegal aliens.
• Tell Ukraine, that they will accept deported illegal aliens
• Expedite military aged males to Ukraine as soon as possible and as many as possible.
This eliminates problems with District Judges intervening because the District Judges can be assumed to be anti-Ukraine and pro Russia by interfering in the Ukrainian Aid Package.
• Tell Russia that Ukraine has chosen to accept deported illegal aliens.
• Tell Ukraine, that they will accept deported illegal aliens
• Expedite military aged males to Ukraine as soon as possible and as many as possible.
This eliminates problems with District Judges intervening because the District Judges can be assumed to be anti-Ukraine and pro Russia by interfering in the Ukrainian Aid Package.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (kHd4y)
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123 Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Uh ok. People with names like shouldn't be allowed to hold office anywhere in the US.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
The Statue of Liberty does not look like this judge.
Uh ok. People with names like shouldn't be allowed to hold office anywhere in the US.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
The Statue of Liberty does not look like this judge.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (/U5Yz)
136
Home Depot identifies as An Illegal Sanctuary Parking Lot.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (VofaG)
137
Maybe I'm being to clever by half but the illegal aliens are not "hiding" in those places. They want to be seen looking for work.
ICE: Judge Frimpong, they were not hiding at the Home Depot. Quite the opposite.
Posted by: WisRich at July 1
IKEA is where they go to hide.
ICE: Judge Frimpong, they were not hiding at the Home Depot. Quite the opposite.
Posted by: WisRich at July 1
IKEA is where they go to hide.
Posted by: New Name at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (/lPRQ)
138
Also, don't worry, she's a US citizen. She was born here. Her parents were the immigrants.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
She's still a foreigner with a name like that.
We have so many beautiful female names in English, but she chooses to keep that barbaric moniker.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
She's still a foreigner with a name like that.
We have so many beautiful female names in English, but she chooses to keep that barbaric moniker.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (77rzZ)
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59 > Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
And yeah, I too thought at first that this was a parody name that Ace thought up. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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I thought that whole sentence was a Bee headline...
"A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," has just declared the Home Depots, car washes, and other places that illegal aliens hide are safe havens that ICE agents are forbidden to enter."
Choked later when realizing it wasn't...
And yeah, I too thought at first that this was a parody name that Ace thought up. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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I thought that whole sentence was a Bee headline...
"A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," has just declared the Home Depots, car washes, and other places that illegal aliens hide are safe havens that ICE agents are forbidden to enter."
Choked later when realizing it wasn't...
Posted by: bearski at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (Bhsk7)
140
That judge isn't as smart as she thinks. Trump only needs to get a judge himself to pre-approve deportations at the point of arrest.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (8avO+)
141
Snowback: they came in through Canada!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (NWqJf)
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127 She's "pro-choice" and endorsed by Bernie Sanders.
So yes, under the spell of demons.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:55 PM (TN0g+)
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Speaking of Sanders.
He said this weekend that nations should have borders.
Combine that with John Kerry's assertion that Democrats screwed up on immigration over the past decade.
I kind of feel like the Democrat Party is starting a struggle session on Obama's directive to change the face of America after the 2010 midterm shellacking.
So yes, under the spell of demons.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:55 PM (TN0g+)
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Speaking of Sanders.
He said this weekend that nations should have borders.
Combine that with John Kerry's assertion that Democrats screwed up on immigration over the past decade.
I kind of feel like the Democrat Party is starting a struggle session on Obama's directive to change the face of America after the 2010 midterm shellacking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)
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Japan's birth rate is about to go so far negative, it'll result in an integer underflow.
I thought I saw a headline about Japan offering a special "baby daddy" visa for foreigners.
I can't imagine most Japanese women would go for that...but here's your change fellow morons...
I thought I saw a headline about Japan offering a special "baby daddy" visa for foreigners.
I can't imagine most Japanese women would go for that...but here's your change fellow morons...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (t0Rmr)
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Maame We're All Crazy Now
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (Qr870)
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Does she know the "Witch Doctor"? I think he is saying her name.
Posted by: Someguysomewhere at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM
*snort*
Posted by: Someguysomewhere at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM
*snort*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (dPfyF)
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The Blade dated a Maame once.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
You are such a slut.
It's weird. The first name and hyphenated middle name look African, but "Frimpong" looks Southeast-Asian to me.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (77rzZ)
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True, but there are weird names in Ghana that derive from the 50,000 tribes there, the western colonization (pretty much every western power had a colony or presence there), rampant tribal conquest and movement, etc.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
You are such a slut.
It's weird. The first name and hyphenated middle name look African, but "Frimpong" looks Southeast-Asian to me.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (77rzZ)
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True, but there are weird names in Ghana that derive from the 50,000 tribes there, the western colonization (pretty much every western power had a colony or presence there), rampant tribal conquest and movement, etc.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (iFTx/)
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I like the Club 85 broad in the robe with her self-satisfied, belligerently ignorant smile. “I did that!!!”
Posted by: Common Tater at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (pV4LT)
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Lowes is a chick home decoration store. Home Depot is where all the contractors go.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Mostly be contractors know they don't have to ask of the staff a single question.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Mostly be contractors know they don't have to ask of the staff a single question.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (mlg/3)
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From Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong's Confirmation Hearing:
During the Obama administration, you worked with the Justice Department in Eric Holder’s and Tony West’s offices. I’ve learned that, while you were with the Justice Department, you were involved in directing corporate settlement money to liberal activist groups.1
These liberal groups were not parties to the settlements. These liberal groups were not injured by the events that led to the settlements. And if
corporations paid money to these liberal groups, the DOJ reduced the overall amount that the corporations had to pay.
During the Obama administration, you worked with the Justice Department in Eric Holder’s and Tony West’s offices. I’ve learned that, while you were with the Justice Department, you were involved in directing corporate settlement money to liberal activist groups.1
These liberal groups were not parties to the settlements. These liberal groups were not injured by the events that led to the settlements. And if
corporations paid money to these liberal groups, the DOJ reduced the overall amount that the corporations had to pay.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (dIske)
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Arachnophobes beware: Customs officials on Monday released photos from a seizure of roughly 1,500 young tarantulas found inside plastic containers that had been hidden in chocolate spongecake boxes shipped to an airport in western Germany.
Customs officials found the shipment at Cologne Bonn airport in a package that had arrived from Vietnam, tipped off by a “noticeable smell” that didn't resemble the expected aroma of the 7 kilograms (about 15 pounds) of the confectionery treats, Cologne customs office spokesman Jens Ahland said.
Customs officials found the shipment at Cologne Bonn airport in a package that had arrived from Vietnam, tipped off by a “noticeable smell” that didn't resemble the expected aroma of the 7 kilograms (about 15 pounds) of the confectionery treats, Cologne customs office spokesman Jens Ahland said.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (RHGPo)
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I must say I never thought I'd see this happen but yes, yes I did vote for this.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (cYBz/)
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Japan's birth rate is about to go so far negative, it'll result in an integer underflow.
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OMG! Where will we get the little paper umbrellas to put in our drinks?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Vietnam.
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OMG! Where will we get the little paper umbrellas to put in our drinks?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Vietnam.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:57 PM (+bLMA)
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Maybe she's married to someone from SE Asia.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Hmm, possibly. That honestly didn't occur to me.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Hmm, possibly. That honestly didn't occur to me.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:58 PM (77rzZ)
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Progressive DA Amy Padden of Colorado plans to drop all charges against Solomon Galligan who attempted to kidnap a child near Black Forest Hills Elementary due to "mental incompetency".
More to the story:
The reason she's cutting him free is that "there is not enough room in the criminally insane institutions." He was deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial (this concept has never made sense to me).
Get this: a woman claiming to be his sister is saying that he's had this happen several times, he keeps violating the law and then being set free again.
More to the story:
The reason she's cutting him free is that "there is not enough room in the criminally insane institutions." He was deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial (this concept has never made sense to me).
Get this: a woman claiming to be his sister is saying that he's had this happen several times, he keeps violating the law and then being set free again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:58 PM (dfIr7)
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@8
>>Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
That does does not sound like a classical western or biblical name.
>>Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
That does does not sound like a classical western or biblical name.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 03:58 PM (XV/Pl)
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Good gosh, these judges sure are full of themselves. And we're supposed to take them seriously when they issue such insane rulings?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 03:58 PM (tT6L1)
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IKEA is where they go to hide.
Posted by: New Name at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (/lPRQ)
But then they can't find their way out, so it's perfect for ICE raids.
Posted by: New Name at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (/lPRQ)
But then they can't find their way out, so it's perfect for ICE raids.
Posted by: Like the Hotel California at July 14, 2025 03:58 PM (TbWk/)
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Serious question - are you allowed to ask if they speak, and read, English? Because feralgov *does* require CDL drivers (for one example) to be able to read road signs, although as we know Brandon and crew ignored that.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (ULPxl)
A qualified "yes".
You have to be able to show that the policy is based on a non-discriminatory business need. So "we need to be able to communicate with our employees in a common language" is likely a good enough reason.
However, let's say your shop foreman is bilingual and you have a practice of not hiring mexicans who don't speak English very well, but they don't NEED to speak english to do their job ... now you may be looking at a discrimination based on national origin case from a plaintiffs attorney, a state or federal department of labor investigation.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:56 PM (ULPxl)
A qualified "yes".
You have to be able to show that the policy is based on a non-discriminatory business need. So "we need to be able to communicate with our employees in a common language" is likely a good enough reason.
However, let's say your shop foreman is bilingual and you have a practice of not hiring mexicans who don't speak English very well, but they don't NEED to speak english to do their job ... now you may be looking at a discrimination based on national origin case from a plaintiffs attorney, a state or federal department of labor investigation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:58 PM (uCjyK)
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>>They're cheap for their illegal employers
You pay twice, once for the illegal who is subsidized by taxpayer,
and again for the American who is out of work.
You pay twice, once for the illegal who is subsidized by taxpayer,
and again for the American who is out of work.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 14, 2025 03:59 PM (rrOZL)
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156 Good gosh, these judges sure are full of themselves. And we're supposed to take them seriously when they issue such insane rulings?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 03:58 PM (tT6L1)
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I've heard enough stories of county magistrate judges on up thinking that they're god to no longer be surprised that federal district court judges think that they're smarter, more clever, and more powerful than they actually are.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 03:58 PM (tT6L1)
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I've heard enough stories of county magistrate judges on up thinking that they're god to no longer be surprised that federal district court judges think that they're smarter, more clever, and more powerful than they actually are.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:59 PM (GBKbO)
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Japan's birth rate is about to go so far negative, it'll result in an integer underflow.
http://tiny.cc/pedp001
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (lIio7)
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[Cheering]
-- Hentai Creators
http://tiny.cc/pedp001
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (lIio7)
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[Cheering]
-- Hentai Creators
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Japan's birth rate is about to go so far negative, it'll result in an integer underflow.
I thought I saw a headline about Japan offering a special "baby daddy" visa for foreigners.
I can't imagine most Japanese women would go for that...but here's your change fellow morons...
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I have good days and bad days, but I haven't yet reached the point where I'd need to travel 6000 miles to get laid.
I thought I saw a headline about Japan offering a special "baby daddy" visa for foreigners.
I can't imagine most Japanese women would go for that...but here's your change fellow morons...
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I have good days and bad days, but I haven't yet reached the point where I'd need to travel 6000 miles to get laid.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:59 PM (TN0g+)
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Does she know the "Witch Doctor"? I think he is saying her name.
Posted by: Someguysomewhere at July 14, 2025
***
Ooh-ee-ooh-ah-ah
Bing bang, walla walla ting tang
Posted by: Someguysomewhere at July 14, 2025
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Ooh-ee-ooh-ah-ah
Bing bang, walla walla ting tang
Posted by: Ross Bagdasarian at July 14, 2025 03:59 PM (omVj0)
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The best part about the clown judge YOLO rulings, unmoored from any law or precedent is, all it's going to do is give Trump more power.
The Supreme Court is going to issue a ruling that says, "Due Process doesn't give a district judge the authority to do whatever they want."
But, the huge clue-by-four hit of "decrying an imperial executive while demanding an imperial judiciary" didn't land hard enough....
The Supreme Court is going to issue a ruling that says, "Due Process doesn't give a district judge the authority to do whatever they want."
But, the huge clue-by-four hit of "decrying an imperial executive while demanding an imperial judiciary" didn't land hard enough....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 04:00 PM (JThEY)
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Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Arresting Gavin Newsom's buddy who ran the weed farm/child sex operation would be an excellent start.
Arresting Gavin Newsom's buddy who ran the weed farm/child sex operation would be an excellent start.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 04:00 PM (2ocoG)
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BTW "migrants" is back to being verboten, being tainted with the stink of, well, migrants.
The new word is (seriously) - "Irregular Immigrants".
Posted by: ...
Well, shit. How's a guy supposed to keep up with all these changes?
The new word is (seriously) - "Irregular Immigrants".
Posted by: ...
Well, shit. How's a guy supposed to keep up with all these changes?
Posted by: mikeski at July 14, 2025 04:00 PM (DgGvY)
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Yeah well what about Epstein?
Posted by: guy who only cares about Epstein at July 14, 2025 04:00 PM (vFG9F)
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>> Lowes is a chick home decoration store. Home Depot is where all the contractors go.
well now I feel emasculated for buying my weed wacker there.
well now I feel emasculated for buying my weed wacker there.
Posted by: the dandy at July 14, 2025 04:00 PM (8l8nW)
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The left: Why do you wingnuts think we are all soft on pedos?
Oh, you all are not soft on them -- you all get little chubbies fantasizing about becoming them yourselves.
The left: Why do you wingnuts think we are all soft on pedos?
Oh, you all are not soft on them -- you all get little chubbies fantasizing about becoming them yourselves.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh
Trump's economic advisor predicts that Trump's tariffs will raise $3 trilly over the next ten years.
The last time the government generated a monthly surplus was back in 2017, Trump's first term.
National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett said that tariffs will raise $3 trillion in new revenue over the next decade. "The bottom line is that President Trump has produced a huge amount of tariff revenue with the tariffs we've seen in the first half of the year," Hassett told ABC News on Sunday. "The Congressional Budget Office has said that tariff revenue over the next 10 years, which will help reduce the deficit and secure our entitlement programs, is $3 trillion. And consumers haven't seen that. "You know, consumer price index, inflation rate now is the lowest it's been in over a decade. And so what President Trump has always said is that the foreign suppliers, the foreign governments are gonna bear most of the tariffs, it's being visibly seen, and I think that that's probably affecting his negotiating position, because we've got all this empirical evidence that his position has been proven correct in the data."
JUST IN: US Treasury hits surplus for June 2025 thanks to Tariffs, leftist CNBC admits.
— Resist the Mainstream (@ResisttheMS) July 11, 2025
The $27+ billion surplus came as a surprise after the $316 billion deficit in May.
The last time a surplus occurred was during President Trump's first term in 2017. pic.twitter.com/cXM9BHzUFg
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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (N1DT3)
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Almost like everything we've been told for the past 50 years has been wrong...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (N1DT3)
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LIES! Tariffs kill!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (ExV1e)
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But tariffs are bad...
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (YwEeS)
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The posts are flyin' today!
The posts are flyin' today!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (xp7+v)
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Only other countries can use tariffs for their benefit...
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (YwEeS)
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Unpossible! I was told that tariffs would crash the economy and kill puppies!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (u73oe)
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I'm a trained economist (though that's not my job now) and the biggest failing economists have is believing that their theories that work with all other things being equal HAVE TO work like that in the real world.
I had a very good professor (who was an Austrian, btw), who would often say "When I look out the window, it doesn't work like that"
That's the kind of humility economists need.
I had a very good professor (who was an Austrian, btw), who would often say "When I look out the window, it doesn't work like that"
That's the kind of humility economists need.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (N1DT3)
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We really need a deficit of credentialed cretins.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (6iQ9H)
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But, but, tariffs bad. Everyone says so.
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (sFNX2)
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I looked at the pattern.
Over the past 5 years, June is somewhere between a slight slowdown in growth to a continuation of the growth in May.
An outright reversal is...unusual.
We'll see.
Over the past 5 years, June is somewhere between a slight slowdown in growth to a continuation of the growth in May.
An outright reversal is...unusual.
We'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump gets lucky again!
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (Qr870)
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Sometimes it's nice to be the biggest dog in the yard.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (u82oZ)
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Heh. A lefty acquaintance had recently complained to me that Trump doesn't care about people; he only wants to win.
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
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"Here's why surpluses are actually a bad thing."
Posted by: 496 at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Wk8nw)
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14 Heh. A lefty acquaintance had recently complained to me that Trump doesn't care about people; he only wants to win.
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
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"So?"
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
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"So?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Replacing unfunded spending with tariff revenue can only reduce the calculated GDP! Why does Trump want to crush the GDP numbers!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)
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15 "Here's why surpluses are actually a bad thing."
Posted by: 496 at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Wk8nw)
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"This will lead to Congress just spending more. Trump is betraying MAGA."
-Charlie Kirk, 75% probability
Posted by: 496 at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Wk8nw)
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"This will lead to Congress just spending more. Trump is betraying MAGA."
-Charlie Kirk, 75% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Now if we can only get congress to cut spending we will be cooking with grease.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (XV/Pl)
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I like how a wag whose name I cannot recall (sorry, wag) who said "this isn't a surplus. Its an interest payment."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (dfIr7)
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Assume a can opener . . .
Posted by: Shipwrecked Economist at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (Qr870)
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21 Assume a can opener . . .
Posted by: Shipwrecked Economist at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (wVcYX)
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"Next to the spherical chicken?"
-Shipwrecked physicist
Posted by: Shipwrecked Economist at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (wVcYX)
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"Next to the spherical chicken?"
-Shipwrecked physicist
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)
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I had a very good professor (who was an Austrian, btw), who would often say "When I look out the window, it doesn't work like that"
That's the kind of humility economists need.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (N1DT3)
We just need to assign the correct calculation to the "Util" to understand the actual value of Marginal Utility.
That's the kind of humility economists need.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (N1DT3)
We just need to assign the correct calculation to the "Util" to understand the actual value of Marginal Utility.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (D7oie)
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Don't tell the Dems. They'll scream "we can afford health care for illegals, sex "reassignment " surgery for minors, pay off student loans..."
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (Ry3Y5)
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“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the event on Friday, according to excerpts of his remarks exclusively obtained and released by CNN.
“You know, don’t tell me you’re a Democrat, but you’re kind of disappointed right now, so you’re not doing anything. No, now is exactly the time that you get in there and do something,” he reportedly said, expressing his disdain for the collective embrace of Democratic victimhood.
... but .. but victimhood is the currency of the realm
“You know, don’t tell me you’re a Democrat, but you’re kind of disappointed right now, so you’re not doing anything. No, now is exactly the time that you get in there and do something,” he reportedly said, expressing his disdain for the collective embrace of Democratic victimhood.
... but .. but victimhood is the currency of the realm
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (RHGPo)
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Is that good?
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (63Dwl)
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Economists and weather forecasters. Often wrong, never in doubt.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (u73oe)
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The fact that tariffs are raising so much money, while prices and inflation are trending down, gives credence to the theory -- espoused by geniuses like The Blade and others here -- that most if not all of the cost of the tariffs would be absorbed by the foreign exporter.
Basically, it was foreign exporters -- perhaps in cahoots with US importers -- making obscene profits and are now making less obscene profits.
Some foreign governments (such as Japan) are subsidizing their companies' tariff costs.
Basically, it was foreign exporters -- perhaps in cahoots with US importers -- making obscene profits and are now making less obscene profits.
Some foreign governments (such as Japan) are subsidizing their companies' tariff costs.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't nood Great Expectation haterz.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (fV+MH)
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Golly!
Posted by: Nobel Prize Economist and Enron Advisor Paul Krugman at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (wVcYX)
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This is what I voted for.
Posted by: Not tired of winning at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (bcy1V)
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So.. are we dead yet?
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (lPvx2)
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Heh. A lefty acquaintance had recently complained to me that Trump doesn't care about people; he only wants to win.
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
That acquaintance read that somewhere. It's classic persuasion and sloganeering.
Taking an obvious strength of Trump's and turning it into an apparent weakness.
Them for 10 straight years: Trump's a loser! Trump Steaks! Trump University! Felon!
Trump: (wins repeatedly)
Them: Trump only cares about winning!
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
That acquaintance read that somewhere. It's classic persuasion and sloganeering.
Taking an obvious strength of Trump's and turning it into an apparent weakness.
Them for 10 straight years: Trump's a loser! Trump Steaks! Trump University! Felon!
Trump: (wins repeatedly)
Them: Trump only cares about winning!
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (Qr870)
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I thought tariffs were a huge tax on the american middle class, were horrible economic policy, cause rampant inflation and invariably led to trade wars and never raised any money?
Was I misled on that?
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
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30 The fact that tariffs are raising so much money, while prices and inflation are trending down, gives credence to the theory -- espoused by geniuses like The Blade and others here -- that most if not all of the cost of the tariffs would be absorbed by the foreign exporter.
Basically, it was foreign exporters -- perhaps in cahoots with US importers -- making obscene profits and are now making less obscene profits.
Some foreign governments (such as Japan) are subsidizing their companies' tariff costs.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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Tariffs are a government fee. They don't increase the money supply. If they do anything to the money supply, it's reduce dollars flowing because of increased prices on targeted foreign goods.
They are minorly deflationary.
But every economist who screamed that tariffs are inflationary for the past 3 months will get paid more to teach economics than me.
Basically, it was foreign exporters -- perhaps in cahoots with US importers -- making obscene profits and are now making less obscene profits.
Some foreign governments (such as Japan) are subsidizing their companies' tariff costs.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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Tariffs are a government fee. They don't increase the money supply. If they do anything to the money supply, it's reduce dollars flowing because of increased prices on targeted foreign goods.
They are minorly deflationary.
But every economist who screamed that tariffs are inflationary for the past 3 months will get paid more to teach economics than me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
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This is yet another "experts say" that's false. That keeps happening.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (2ocoG)
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Unexpected by whom?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (viF8m)
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CNBC, and all the rest, including those "economists" are utter clowns. Buffoons of the highest order. Completely devoid of integrity. And deserving of zero respect.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (qBdHI)
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Tariffs are a tax on the American consumer!!! - Those People
The corporate tax rate is too low!!! - The Same People
The corporate tax rate is too low!!! - The Same People
Posted by: mikeski at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (DgGvY)
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He just raised tariffs on Mexico and the EU too.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (u73oe)
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So I don't know, obviously, but I thought I read somewhere that this surplus is a one time thing due to accounting tricks, such as bringing revenue forward or one time charges, etc., and that once this washes out of the system it will be back to deficits.
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
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I think we all should stop and think about this for a minute.
Yes, this is more tax revenue for the US treasury. Yes, tariffs should bring jobs back to the US.
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Yes, this is more tax revenue for the US treasury. Yes, tariffs should bring jobs back to the US.
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
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Its funny how with tariffs the left/FNM has finally discovered people PAY the money the government gets from taxes.
Unlike pretty much every other type of tax though some of the money that tariffs raise come from foreigners...
Unlike pretty much every other type of tax though some of the money that tariffs raise come from foreigners...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (t0Rmr)
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Might I humbly suggest that we take our tariff windfall and:
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
47
Can we officially now declare the media are retards?
Posted by: Weasel at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (rAX2y)
48
You know why the narrative was that tariffs were inflationary?
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
But, I'm sure that the next report over in the NYT is believable and well-researched and trustworthy.
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
But, I'm sure that the next report over in the NYT is believable and well-researched and trustworthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
49
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
All you have to do is look at where you read it.
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
All you have to do is look at where you read it.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (Qr870)
50
But the last thread told me America Is Doomed!
Posted by: Can't keep up at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (bcy1V)
51
I think we all should stop and think about this for a minute.
Yes, this is more tax revenue for the US treasury. Yes, tariffs should bring jobs back to the US.
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
________
It might cost $21 bucks now ....
Yes, this is more tax revenue for the US treasury. Yes, tariffs should bring jobs back to the US.
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
________
It might cost $21 bucks now ....
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
52
Trump needs to slap the economists with a tariff. That'll teach them.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (V362x)
53
43 So I don't know, obviously, but I thought I read somewhere that this surplus is a one time thing due to accounting tricks, such as bringing revenue forward or one time charges, etc., and that once this washes out of the system it will be back to deficits.
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
Yes, it's always budget gimmicks. There is no way the US is not at a massive budget deficit by the end of the year. Like every other year.
That said, it's more of a way to refute the stupid lies about tariffs our Free Trade (tm) Betters have been pushing on us for 40 years.
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
Yes, it's always budget gimmicks. There is no way the US is not at a massive budget deficit by the end of the year. Like every other year.
That said, it's more of a way to refute the stupid lies about tariffs our Free Trade (tm) Betters have been pushing on us for 40 years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (uCjyK)
54
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Superhero referencing post on this coming in this afternoon boss!
Well, presuming Paolo lets me get to my work computer in the house. Hard to write an article on my switch in the cuck shed after all
That hardly seems fair to them.
Superhero referencing post on this coming in this afternoon boss!
Well, presuming Paolo lets me get to my work computer in the house. Hard to write an article on my switch in the cuck shed after all
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (t0Rmr)
55
>>Trump's economic advisor predicts that Trump's tariffs will raise $3 trilly over the next ten years.
Woo-hoo! We have $3T in new spending opportunities over the next ten years!
Woo-hoo! We have $3T in new spending opportunities over the next ten years!
Posted by: Congress at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: Nobel Prize Economist and Enron Advisor Paul Krugman at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (wVcYX)
57
All that sweet sweet potential graft
The poli-tick-ians weep
The poli-tick-ians weep
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (Ch4Qk)
58
If only anyone was still alive to know.
But, we're all dead from the first election of Trump, first Trump tax cuts, the end of net neutrality, the withdraw from the Paris Accords, the end of Roe v. Wade, the second election of Trump, the end of USAID, the the mass firings of federal workers, and now the passage of the Big Beautiful Bill.
I'm dead so many times now, I've lost count.
But, we're all dead from the first election of Trump, first Trump tax cuts, the end of net neutrality, the withdraw from the Paris Accords, the end of Roe v. Wade, the second election of Trump, the end of USAID, the the mass firings of federal workers, and now the passage of the Big Beautiful Bill.
I'm dead so many times now, I've lost count.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:36 PM (JThEY)
59
46 Might I humbly suggest that we take our tariff windfall and:
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
lol, no.
But if you donate $5 TODAY, we'll stop the Big Spending Washington machine!
- RNC
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
lol, no.
But if you donate $5 TODAY, we'll stop the Big Spending Washington machine!
- RNC
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:36 PM (uCjyK)
60
It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.
They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (bcy1V)
61
Sid hardest hit.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
62
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Muh lice bowr!
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Muh lice bowr!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (xG4kz)
63
Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
64
So can we start paying down the debt, or will we just find something to waste it on (glares at Ukraine)?
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (zLwRl)
65
61 Sid hardest hit.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
======
Dude just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
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Dude just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (GBKbO)
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You know why the narrative was that tariffs were inflationary?
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
But, I'm sure that the next report over in the NYT is believable and well-researched and trustworthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, I think it also was appealing on a lizard brain level. If inflation means higher prices, and tariffs mean imported good will cost more, then tariffs mean higher prices/inflation. Right? A lot of people swallowed that formulation, including more than a few commenting on this smart military blog.
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
But, I'm sure that the next report over in the NYT is believable and well-researched and trustworthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
_____
Well, I think it also was appealing on a lizard brain level. If inflation means higher prices, and tariffs mean imported good will cost more, then tariffs mean higher prices/inflation. Right? A lot of people swallowed that formulation, including more than a few commenting on this smart military blog.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
67
Its funny how with tariffs the left/FNM has finally discovered people PAY the money the government gets from taxes.
Unlike pretty much every other type of tax though some of the money that tariffs raise come from foreigners...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (t0Rmr)
Only little people pay taxes. Little people like you lot.
Unlike pretty much every other type of tax though some of the money that tariffs raise come from foreigners...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (t0Rmr)
Only little people pay taxes. Little people like you lot.
Posted by: Zombie Leona Helmsley, Queen of Mean at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (wVcYX)
68
61 Sid hardest hit.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
I'd say Sid is AI except for the intelligence part....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
I'd say Sid is AI except for the intelligence part....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VE6XX)
69
Can Jerome Powell read these words and know what to do? Fuck that Cuck.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (W3T6M)
70
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH Jul 12
The Govt had a $27,000,000,000 surplus one month.
The National Debt is $37,000,000,000,000.
The Surplus was 0.07% of the debt.
$76,750,000,000 in interest accrued on the national debt in the same month.
Tariffs aren't gonna fix the spending issue
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH Jul 13
By the way, it wasn't the first monthly surplus in 20 years, it was the 7th in 4 years.
Heck, the one in April was 10x as big, at $240 billion, but they never bragged about that because they didn't have the Epstein drama to distract the MAGA base from
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH 23h
Not to mention, it wasn't even a real surplus!
Just moving expenses from June to May, and increasing your outlay in May doesn't change that June didn't bring in enough revenue to cover June Expenses.
What's the difference between Bookkeeping and Accounting?
https://tinyurl.com/ywvvsuep
And I recall something about June 1 being a Sunday meant expenses were treated differently.
The Govt had a $27,000,000,000 surplus one month.
The National Debt is $37,000,000,000,000.
The Surplus was 0.07% of the debt.
$76,750,000,000 in interest accrued on the national debt in the same month.
Tariffs aren't gonna fix the spending issue
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH Jul 13
By the way, it wasn't the first monthly surplus in 20 years, it was the 7th in 4 years.
Heck, the one in April was 10x as big, at $240 billion, but they never bragged about that because they didn't have the Epstein drama to distract the MAGA base from
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH 23h
Not to mention, it wasn't even a real surplus!
Just moving expenses from June to May, and increasing your outlay in May doesn't change that June didn't bring in enough revenue to cover June Expenses.
What's the difference between Bookkeeping and Accounting?
https://tinyurl.com/ywvvsuep
And I recall something about June 1 being a Sunday meant expenses were treated differently.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (2yoRf)
71
Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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I think a number of them didn't believe the pause was actually a pause. In fact, experts in our own country probably advised them to wait it out.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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I think a number of them didn't believe the pause was actually a pause. In fact, experts in our own country probably advised them to wait it out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (tT6L1)
72
66 Well, I think it also was appealing on a lizard brain level. If inflation means higher prices, and tariffs mean imported good will cost more, then tariffs mean higher prices/inflation. Right? A lot of people swallowed that formulation, including more than a few commenting on this smart military blog.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
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"All rises in prices are inflation," is easy to understand.
And no economist who said anything along those lines should be treated with anything other than contempt and derision.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
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"All rises in prices are inflation," is easy to understand.
And no economist who said anything along those lines should be treated with anything other than contempt and derision.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
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Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
It sounds valid, at first pass, because in theory tariffs cause companies to raise prices to pay for the tariffs, resulting in inflation. But in reality is a lot more complicated and actual, professional, and allegedly trained economists should have known better.
And perhaps they did, but ignored it to attack Trump. Or maybe they're just fools locked into an ideology. Maybe economics as a body is simply not scientific or rigorous so they cannot understand stuff like this. I don't know.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
It sounds valid, at first pass, because in theory tariffs cause companies to raise prices to pay for the tariffs, resulting in inflation. But in reality is a lot more complicated and actual, professional, and allegedly trained economists should have known better.
And perhaps they did, but ignored it to attack Trump. Or maybe they're just fools locked into an ideology. Maybe economics as a body is simply not scientific or rigorous so they cannot understand stuff like this. I don't know.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (dfIr7)
74
63 Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
Why? I'd like to see more success in enacting tariffs.
Why would anyone want to continue to allow this massive off-shorting of jobs and importing of third world labor that is destroying the culture of this country from the inside out.
It only benefits a small group of wealthy and influential people and is killing off vast swarths of our country by the day.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
Why? I'd like to see more success in enacting tariffs.
Why would anyone want to continue to allow this massive off-shorting of jobs and importing of third world labor that is destroying the culture of this country from the inside out.
It only benefits a small group of wealthy and influential people and is killing off vast swarths of our country by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (uCjyK)
75
>>So can we start paying down the debt, or will we just find something to waste it on (glares at Ukraine)?
Trump just announced in the Oval with the head of NATO by his side that the EU will by buying weapons from us for Ukraine. Won't be costing us a penny.
Trump just announced in the Oval with the head of NATO by his side that the EU will by buying weapons from us for Ukraine. Won't be costing us a penny.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (viF8m)
76
Trump's economic advisor predicts that Trump's tariffs will raise $3 trilly over the next ten years.
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Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Seems like they just took the 26 billion surplus and multiplied it out by 120.
Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
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Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Seems like they just took the 26 billion surplus and multiplied it out by 120.
Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (OGOaV)
77
Any time I hear a report about what "Economists" think, I treat that equivalently to what financial "experts" say about what stocks you should buy. In both instances, they are telling you what they want to happen, not what any sort of science actually happens, and in both cases they usually have personal incentives to pushing things to happen that way as well.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 02:41 PM (B9Prs)
78
Justin, what is the source for your assertions? Grok or ChatGPT?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:41 PM (tT6L1)
79
Well, I think it also was appealing on a lizard brain level. If inflation means higher prices, and tariffs mean imported good will cost more, then tariffs mean higher prices/inflation. Right? A lot of people swallowed that formulation, including more than a few commenting on this smart military blog.
Right, and it makes sense at first pass. But as Dolly's husband notes: not every price increase is inflation or inflationary. And its much more complicated, because tariffs don't seem to be affecting most consumer goods, like gasoline, food, books, etc.
Right, and it makes sense at first pass. But as Dolly's husband notes: not every price increase is inflation or inflationary. And its much more complicated, because tariffs don't seem to be affecting most consumer goods, like gasoline, food, books, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (dfIr7)
80
I think regardless of how cooperative they are, every other country should be charged an import fee (tariff)
we need to stop being the major importer and become an exporter
enough "nation-building" - we did more than enough!
we need to stop being the major importer and become an exporter
enough "nation-building" - we did more than enough!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
81
The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
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>>> 71 Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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I think a number of them didn't believe the pause was actually a pause. In fact, experts in our own country probably advised them to wait it out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (tT6L1)
Yep, it's going to take time for most to be convinced it's real and not a bluff.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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I think a number of them didn't believe the pause was actually a pause. In fact, experts in our own country probably advised them to wait it out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (tT6L1)
Yep, it's going to take time for most to be convinced it's real and not a bluff.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (ULPxl)
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You know why the narrative was that tariffs were inflationary?
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
I agree with this. The left simplified inflation to just higher prices and then argued that of course a tax on goods would lead to higher costs
Overal this argument seems to have gone the way of the egg price argument...
First there was not inflation/price spike, then it was Trump's fault, and now they just don't talk about it
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
I agree with this. The left simplified inflation to just higher prices and then argued that of course a tax on goods would lead to higher costs
Overal this argument seems to have gone the way of the egg price argument...
First there was not inflation/price spike, then it was Trump's fault, and now they just don't talk about it
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (t0Rmr)
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Don't tell the Dems. They'll scream "we can afford health care for illegals, sex "reassignment " surgery for minors, pay off student loans..."
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Yup.
And, related to below, I'm reminded of the early scene in Interstellar, the PTA conference, where they are berating him for allowing his daughter to read an older textbook. Instead of the corrected one.
Something like, we can't have people dreaming of the stars when those resources could be better used to help those here on Earth.
They kill our dreams, put us in cages to subsist on scraps and tell us we should be grateful they are taking care of us.
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Yup.
And, related to below, I'm reminded of the early scene in Interstellar, the PTA conference, where they are berating him for allowing his daughter to read an older textbook. Instead of the corrected one.
Something like, we can't have people dreaming of the stars when those resources could be better used to help those here on Earth.
They kill our dreams, put us in cages to subsist on scraps and tell us we should be grateful they are taking care of us.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (JThEY)
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:43 PM (77rzZ)
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Right, and it makes sense at first pass. But as Dolly's husband notes: not every price increase is inflation or inflationary. And its much more complicated, because tariffs don't seem to be affecting most consumer goods, like gasoline, food, books, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (dfIr7)
Inflation is almost always caused by monetary policy, not fiscal policy.
No one is claiming that raising the corporate or personal income tax rates will cause massive inflation.
But printing a shit ton of money can.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (dfIr7)
Inflation is almost always caused by monetary policy, not fiscal policy.
No one is claiming that raising the corporate or personal income tax rates will cause massive inflation.
But printing a shit ton of money can.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:43 PM (uCjyK)
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But every economist who screamed that tariffs are inflationary for the past 3 months will get paid more to teach economics than me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
If it makes you feel better, I shall pay them the same to teach economics as I pay you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
If it makes you feel better, I shall pay them the same to teach economics as I pay you.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:43 PM (ExV1e)
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>>Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Seems like they just took the 26 billion surplus and multiplied it out by 120.
>>Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
They've been right about the tariffs so far and the experts have been wrong. It's not like tariffs are a new idea, it was one of the very first things the 1st Congress voted to enact. It is how this country was financed for decades and we prospered.
It wasn't until the income tax came into being we got stupid and forgot that tariffs work. It's why pretty much every other country on the planet uses them against us and has for years.
>>Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
They've been right about the tariffs so far and the experts have been wrong. It's not like tariffs are a new idea, it was one of the very first things the 1st Congress voted to enact. It is how this country was financed for decades and we prospered.
It wasn't until the income tax came into being we got stupid and forgot that tariffs work. It's why pretty much every other country on the planet uses them against us and has for years.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:43 PM (viF8m)
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The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
The only time in recent memory I've heard the left say we shouldn't spend money because we couldn't afford it was Trump's wall in 2016.
So we can afford $8T/year, but not the additional $5B back when the budget was $4T....
The only time in recent memory I've heard the left say we shouldn't spend money because we couldn't afford it was Trump's wall in 2016.
So we can afford $8T/year, but not the additional $5B back when the budget was $4T....
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (dIske)
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The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
Innumerate, even!
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
Innumerate, even!
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (wVcYX)
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Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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Yes, there are. Some aren't, though. They have made the calculation that paying higher tariffs is better than lowering their own tariffs and/or opening their markets to American goods (which is almost always Trump's requirement for negotiation).
Trump was 100% correct that the USA was getting prison-raped in the ass by the entire rest of the world. Even with higher tariffs, a good portion of the rest of the world is still getting over on us so well that they seen no need to negotiate.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
_
Yes, there are. Some aren't, though. They have made the calculation that paying higher tariffs is better than lowering their own tariffs and/or opening their markets to American goods (which is almost always Trump's requirement for negotiation).
Trump was 100% correct that the USA was getting prison-raped in the ass by the entire rest of the world. Even with higher tariffs, a good portion of the rest of the world is still getting over on us so well that they seen no need to negotiate.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
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17 Replacing unfunded spending with tariff revenue can only reduce the calculated GDP! Why does Trump want to crush the GDP numbers!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)
Does anyone know approximately when the 2nd QTR CY 2025 GDP report will be released?
I expect a positive number. Meaning no TrumpCession for at least 9 months. As a result I also expect My Betters will tell me the US is in a deep recession because yada, yada, yada, despite not meeting the technical standard definition of recession. The same Betters told me when we met the technical definition of recession during FJBs term, we were no in recession because yada, yada, yada, outweighed the GDP trend.
I do find some comfort in knowing exactly what lies My Betters will tell me. That is easy peasy.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)
Does anyone know approximately when the 2nd QTR CY 2025 GDP report will be released?
I expect a positive number. Meaning no TrumpCession for at least 9 months. As a result I also expect My Betters will tell me the US is in a deep recession because yada, yada, yada, despite not meeting the technical standard definition of recession. The same Betters told me when we met the technical definition of recession during FJBs term, we were no in recession because yada, yada, yada, outweighed the GDP trend.
I do find some comfort in knowing exactly what lies My Betters will tell me. That is easy peasy.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (aBgBM)
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>>> 74
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Why? I'd like to see more success in enacting tariffs.
Why would anyone want to continue to allow this massive off-shorting of jobs and importing of third world labor that is destroying the culture of this country from the inside out.
It only benefits a small group of wealthy and influential people and is killing off vast swarths of our country by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (uCjyK)
You'd think the commies would be on board with a huge corporate tax increase for H1Bs and "offshored" jobs.
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Why? I'd like to see more success in enacting tariffs.
Why would anyone want to continue to allow this massive off-shorting of jobs and importing of third world labor that is destroying the culture of this country from the inside out.
It only benefits a small group of wealthy and influential people and is killing off vast swarths of our country by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (uCjyK)
You'd think the commies would be on board with a huge corporate tax increase for H1Bs and "offshored" jobs.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (ULPxl)
95
April of 2024 and 2025 both held surpluses, as well as Sept of 2024. At least it is what Treasury shows...
https://tinyurl.com/mrjudtdy
https://tinyurl.com/mrjudtdy
Posted by: Coldwarvet at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (7t0kC)
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The main flaw with tariffs, from a politician's perspective, is that its difficult to translate into graft and it doesn't work as easily or effectively into manipulating behavior. So no matter how good it is, its not gonna be favored over other methods of revenue.
And frankly, those are the only reasons that politicians like taxes. They clearly don't believe you actually need government revenue to spend or we wouldn't be over 35 TRILLION in debt.
And frankly, those are the only reasons that politicians like taxes. They clearly don't believe you actually need government revenue to spend or we wouldn't be over 35 TRILLION in debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (dfIr7)
97
We're as surprised as you.
Posted by: GOP at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (/U5Yz)
98
>>I think regardless of how cooperative they are, every other country should be charged an import fee (tariff)
They are. Every country starts at 10% and then there is negotiation to see what additional tariffs they will be paying.
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
They are. Every country starts at 10% and then there is negotiation to see what additional tariffs they will be paying.
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (viF8m)
99
Are leftists still screaming about Smoot Hawley? Because I know they've been using Smoot Hawley as a talking point lately but, with nothing which resembles context.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (tT6L1)
100
unusual_whales @unusual_whales Jul 11
US had a budget surplus of $27.01 billion in June, compared to a deficit of $71 billion, due to tariffs, per CNBC
unusual_whales @unusual_whales Jul 11 ['pro' report BTW]
June saw a surplus of just over $27 billion, following a $316 billion deficit in May.
Read more: unusualwhales.com/news/us-ha…
US had a budget surplus of $27.01 billion in June, compared to a deficit of $71 billion, due to...
The U.S. government logged a rare surplus in June, thanks in part to a jump in tariff revenues that gave federal coffers an unexpected boost, the Treasury Department said Friday. After running deep...
Rick Kennedy @RickKennedyTX17 Jul 12 Replying to @unusual_whales
“The Treasury also acknowledged that June’s numbers were flattered by timing quirks. Without those calendar adjustments, the month would have ended with a $70 billion deficit.”
https://tinyurl.com/yeyd48s9
US had a budget surplus of $27.01 billion in June, compared to a deficit of $71 billion, due to tariffs, per CNBC
unusual_whales @unusual_whales Jul 11 ['pro' report BTW]
June saw a surplus of just over $27 billion, following a $316 billion deficit in May.
Read more: unusualwhales.com/news/us-ha…
US had a budget surplus of $27.01 billion in June, compared to a deficit of $71 billion, due to...
The U.S. government logged a rare surplus in June, thanks in part to a jump in tariff revenues that gave federal coffers an unexpected boost, the Treasury Department said Friday. After running deep...
Rick Kennedy @RickKennedyTX17 Jul 12 Replying to @unusual_whales
“The Treasury also acknowledged that June’s numbers were flattered by timing quirks. Without those calendar adjustments, the month would have ended with a $70 billion deficit.”
https://tinyurl.com/yeyd48s9
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (2yoRf)
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (vd6bO)
102
Might I humbly suggest that we take our tariff windfall and:
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
Or, follow me here.... we start a war in the ME. -- GOP consultants
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
Or, follow me here.... we start a war in the ME. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (ExV1e)
103
But printing a shit ton of money can.
Every dollar we give to an undocumented immigrant has a multiplier effect.
On my bank account. Oh sorry, I mean on the economy.
Every dollar we give to an undocumented immigrant has a multiplier effect.
On my bank account. Oh sorry, I mean on the economy.
Posted by: Some Dem Officeholder at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (t0Rmr)
104
Economics is in the same department as all the "social" and "studies" degrees.
It's not a math.
It's not a science.
It's mostly a philosophy.
Paul "Enron Advisor" Krugman has a Nobel Prize in Economics.
It's not a math.
It's not a science.
It's mostly a philosophy.
Paul "Enron Advisor" Krugman has a Nobel Prize in Economics.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (JThEY)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (7fElN)
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I think regardless of how cooperative they are, every other country should be charged an import fee (tariff)
They are. Every country starts at 10% and then there is negotiation to see what additional tariffs they will be paying.
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (viF8m)
______
"Yea, we told ya"
-- Ratt
They are. Every country starts at 10% and then there is negotiation to see what additional tariffs they will be paying.
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (viF8m)
______
"Yea, we told ya"
-- Ratt
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (iFTx/)
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Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
Hopefully their non-cooperation will lead to more domestic production.
Hopefully their non-cooperation will lead to more domestic production.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (VofaG)
108
93 Does anyone know approximately when the 2nd QTR CY 2025 GDP report will be released?
I expect a positive number. Meaning no TrumpCession for at least 9 months. As a result I also expect My Betters will tell me the US is in a deep recession because yada, yada, yada, despite not meeting the technical standard definition of recession. The same Betters told me when we met the technical definition of recession during FJBs term, we were no in recession because yada, yada, yada, outweighed the GDP trend.
I do find some comfort in knowing exactly what lies My Betters will tell me. That is easy peasy.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (aBgBM)
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If you took out the imports from Q1's GDP, it would have been very solidly positive. There are accounting reasons (good ones) to treat imports as negative for the calculation of GDP, but that's where all of the -0.3% drop and a lot more came from.
With that spike of imports to avoid tariffs out of the way, the rest of the economy will be able to operate as normal.
Minimum will probably be about 3.5% GDP growth.
Can't forget the deregulatory efforts that are also going on.
I expect a positive number. Meaning no TrumpCession for at least 9 months. As a result I also expect My Betters will tell me the US is in a deep recession because yada, yada, yada, despite not meeting the technical standard definition of recession. The same Betters told me when we met the technical definition of recession during FJBs term, we were no in recession because yada, yada, yada, outweighed the GDP trend.
I do find some comfort in knowing exactly what lies My Betters will tell me. That is easy peasy.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (aBgBM)
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If you took out the imports from Q1's GDP, it would have been very solidly positive. There are accounting reasons (good ones) to treat imports as negative for the calculation of GDP, but that's where all of the -0.3% drop and a lot more came from.
With that spike of imports to avoid tariffs out of the way, the rest of the economy will be able to operate as normal.
Minimum will probably be about 3.5% GDP growth.
Can't forget the deregulatory efforts that are also going on.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)
109
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
110
Trump was 100% correct that the USA was getting prison-raped in the ass by the entire rest of the world. Even with higher tariffs, a good portion of the rest of the world is still getting over on us so well that they seen no need to negotiate.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
Agreed. These trade deals were never about economic policy, they were primarily about the foreign policy interests of the Deep State.
For example, we need to trade with China so that they see the error of their ways and become a freedom loving capitalist democracy like us.
In other words, we've been using the US economy (and the standard of living of US citizens) to nation build around the world, with the usual level of success we have with nation building.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
Agreed. These trade deals were never about economic policy, they were primarily about the foreign policy interests of the Deep State.
For example, we need to trade with China so that they see the error of their ways and become a freedom loving capitalist democracy like us.
In other words, we've been using the US economy (and the standard of living of US citizens) to nation build around the world, with the usual level of success we have with nation building.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (uCjyK)
111
'Unexpectedly'
Posted by: MSM at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (XeU6L)
112
>>So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Doubtful. They aren't negotiating with me.
Doubtful. They aren't negotiating with me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (viF8m)
113
Basement dwelling international trade experts hardest hit.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (SQmE5)
114
I'm betting this a surprise to everyone but Trump.
Honestly I think it was. It certainly surprised me. I figured tariffs were just an effective way to leverage other nations into more fair trade practices, I did not foresee the revenue. Between that, heating up the US economy, spending cuts, and lowering the prime rate, we could actually reduce the debt.
Honestly I think it was. It certainly surprised me. I figured tariffs were just an effective way to leverage other nations into more fair trade practices, I did not foresee the revenue. Between that, heating up the US economy, spending cuts, and lowering the prime rate, we could actually reduce the debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (dfIr7)
115
There is no way the US is not at a massive budget deficit by the end of the year.
Except that the US has money coming in every month. And money going out every month. And the reported surplus is for a single month without taking into account anything which happened before, or will happen hence.
Except that the US has money coming in every month. And money going out every month. And the reported surplus is for a single month without taking into account anything which happened before, or will happen hence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (ExV1e)
116
Epstein !
Posted by: MSM at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (VE6XX)
117
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)
118
102 Might I humbly suggest that we take our tariff windfall and:
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
Or, follow me here.... we start a war in the ME. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (ExV1e)
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That's a little too on the nose.
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
Or, follow me here.... we start a war in the ME. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (ExV1e)
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That's a little too on the nose.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (PMtkd)
119
Trump just announced in the Oval with the head of NATO by his side that the EU will by buying weapons from us for Ukraine. Won't be costing us a penny.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (viF8m)
Huh. Well, that's a nice change of pace.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (viF8m)
Huh. Well, that's a nice change of pace.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (zLwRl)
120
Why is the first article under "Personal Finance"?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Comet Pizza Customers at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (rfMRc)
122
Ghislaine Maxwell is willing to tell all to Congress. Don't believe a damn word that come from her dirty mouth.
Posted by: GOP at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (/U5Yz)
123
Emoluments!
Posted by: The media we USED to watch at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (bcy1V)
124
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
Well, if you are a wealthy CEO I'm sure we could arrange something...
Well, if you are a wealthy CEO I'm sure we could arrange something...
Posted by: Some Spherical Blue Haired Columbia bureaucrat at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (t0Rmr)
125
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)
The country is more likely to have nubile young women.
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)
The country is more likely to have nubile young women.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (2ocoG)
126
Anyone heard from Rand Paul and Thomas Massie on this?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (u73oe)
127
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
From what I've seen of Columbian actresses and models, they have a surplus.
From what I've seen of Columbian actresses and models, they have a surplus.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (dfIr7)
128
Trilly is silly
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (63Dwl)
129
[recollects Barky making snide comment]
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
[recollects Barky making snide comment]
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (XeU6L)
130
Anyone heard from Rand Paul and Thomas Massie on this?
"This is a bad idea that will ruin our country for reasons you have to take our word on!"
"This is a bad idea that will ruin our country for reasons you have to take our word on!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (dfIr7)
131
Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Seems like they just took the 26 billion surplus and multiplied it out by 120.
Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (OGOaV)
Government projections. We have a datum and assume that things will continue without change forever.
Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (OGOaV)
Government projections. We have a datum and assume that things will continue without change forever.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (ExV1e)
132
In other words, we've been using the US economy (and the standard of living of US citizens) to nation build around the world, with the usual level of success we have with nation building.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
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Yep. Our missionary pursuits will kill us.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
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Yep. Our missionary pursuits will kill us.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (W3T6M)
133
2 Almost like everything we've been told for the past 50 years has been wrong...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (N1DT3)
Way more than 50, but yeah.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (N1DT3)
Way more than 50, but yeah.
Posted by: A lifetime of gaslighting at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (TbWk/)
134
91 The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
Innumerate, even!
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (wVcYX
Nah. They're just fuckin' stupid.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
Innumerate, even!
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (wVcYX
Nah. They're just fuckin' stupid.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 02:52 PM (g8Ew8)
135
Anyone heard from Rand Paul and Thomas Massie on this?
Busy counting the silver dimes in Ft. Knox?
Busy counting the silver dimes in Ft. Knox?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 02:52 PM (/U5Yz)
136
There is no way the US is not at a massive budget deficit by the end of the year.
I have no idea how feasible this is, but if we keep having budget surpluses every year, I guarantee you we're not at a deficit at the end of the year. DEBT still, but not deficit.
I have no idea how feasible this is, but if we keep having budget surpluses every year, I guarantee you we're not at a deficit at the end of the year. DEBT still, but not deficit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (dfIr7)
137
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
As the world's most obvious closeted gay, Obama would of course be interested in "magic wands".
As the world's most obvious closeted gay, Obama would of course be interested in "magic wands".
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (2ocoG)
138
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
139
Kevin Hassett is great. Wonkish, cheerful and tough. He's outmatched every shit-weasel reporter they've thrown at him, and always with a smile.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (WHfpM)
140
Lefty economics
1) I want a new iPhone
2) I don't have $2K
3) Therefore someone should buy me a new iPhone
1) I want a new iPhone
2) I don't have $2K
3) Therefore someone should buy me a new iPhone
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (t0Rmr)
141
How many millions will die, thanks to our surplus?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
142
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Posted by: Old Lady Rodham at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (bcy1V)
143
I thought tariffs were a huge tax on the american middle class, were horrible economic policy, cause rampant inflation and invariably led to trade wars and never raised any money?
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Apparently these same people think that all other nations hate their own middle classes, have terrible policies, have rampant inflation, trade wars and huge deficits.
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Apparently these same people think that all other nations hate their own middle classes, have terrible policies, have rampant inflation, trade wars and huge deficits.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (2ocoG)
146
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
The increase to 5% each agreed to that Trump negotiated?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
The increase to 5% each agreed to that Trump negotiated?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (VofaG)
147
143 Apparently these same people think that all other nations hate their own middle classes, have terrible policies, have rampant inflation, trade wars and huge deficits.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)
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The rest of the world waging a trade war on the largest economy in the world is easy to win when America doesn't fight back.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)
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The rest of the world waging a trade war on the largest economy in the world is easy to win when America doesn't fight back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (GBKbO)
148
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
assessments on the member states.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
assessments on the member states.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)
149
[recollects Barky making snide comment]
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (XeU6L)
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The wand is between the two huge rocks called balls.
But I understand how Obama might not know.
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (XeU6L)
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The wand is between the two huge rocks called balls.
But I understand how Obama might not know.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (PMtkd)
150
How many millions will die, thanks to our surplus?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)
151
Is the GOP pounding the table and promising to get to the bottom of this surplus issue, yet?
Posted by: Weasel at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (rAX2y)
152
As the world's most obvious closeted gay, Obama would of course be interested in "magic wands".
"Its for massaging tired muscles just like the hand held showerhead!!!"
--Single women
"Its for massaging tired muscles just like the hand held showerhead!!!"
--Single women
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (dfIr7)
153
I saw $3 Trilly pen for 50 Cent at D.C. Armory in '04.
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (b4A3z)
154
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Don't all the member states have to kick in a certain amount each year based on population or GDP?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Don't all the member states have to kick in a certain amount each year based on population or GDP?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (77rzZ)
155
Between that, heating up the US economy, spending cuts, and lowering the prime rate, we could actually reduce the debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
==
A large driver of the deficit is Fed Reserve holding interest rates too high given the normal risk premium over inflation rates. Joe Biden junta left a steaming pile of short term debt financing to be rolled over the next term.
Since long term interest rates have trended down, Powell has kept the US interest rates high (while cutting them a half a percentage during Kamala's run for the WH under much higher inflationary measures). Powell is easily responsible himself for adding perhaps 50-100 billion this year to the deficit.
Guy needs to go for policy reasons and it turns out he lied to Congress as well about the Fed Reserve HQ revamp. About 700 million over budget but with all kinds of amenities for staff and their higher ups that Powell denied such as a private elevator to executive dining for Powell and cronies. A garden on the roof for parties, etc. and so on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
==
A large driver of the deficit is Fed Reserve holding interest rates too high given the normal risk premium over inflation rates. Joe Biden junta left a steaming pile of short term debt financing to be rolled over the next term.
Since long term interest rates have trended down, Powell has kept the US interest rates high (while cutting them a half a percentage during Kamala's run for the WH under much higher inflationary measures). Powell is easily responsible himself for adding perhaps 50-100 billion this year to the deficit.
Guy needs to go for policy reasons and it turns out he lied to Congress as well about the Fed Reserve HQ revamp. About 700 million over budget but with all kinds of amenities for staff and their higher ups that Powell denied such as a private elevator to executive dining for Powell and cronies. A garden on the roof for parties, etc. and so on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (ctrM5)
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Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
The increase to 5% each agreed to that Trump negotiated?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (VofaG)
That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
The increase to 5% each agreed to that Trump negotiated?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (VofaG)
That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
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If they tariffs are so bad why are all of our fake allies against them?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (NaR/G)
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143 I thought tariffs were a huge tax on the american middle class, were horrible economic policy, cause rampant inflation and invariably led to trade wars and never raised any money?
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Another spectacular lie they have no intention of retracting or apologizing for, as they ready the next spectacular lie.
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Another spectacular lie they have no intention of retracting or apologizing for, as they ready the next spectacular lie.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (WHfpM)
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132 In other words, we've been using the US economy (and the standard of living of US citizens) to nation build around the world, with the usual level of success we have with nation building.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
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Yep. Our missionary pursuits will kill us.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (W3T6M)
Wasted big time taxpayer money on democracy building for people who did not want demoracy. Hell, even I don't want democracy, I've lived in one 76 years. I want a Constitutional Republic.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
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Yep. Our missionary pursuits will kill us.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (W3T6M)
Wasted big time taxpayer money on democracy building for people who did not want demoracy. Hell, even I don't want democracy, I've lived in one 76 years. I want a Constitutional Republic.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (QB+5g)
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The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
And assholes!
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
And assholes!
Posted by: Wait, that's TJM, never mind at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (TbWk/)
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Kevin Hassett is great. Wonkish, cheerful and tough. He's outmatched every shit-weasel reporter they've thrown at him, and always with a smile.
Yeah one of the more frustrating things in the past here was some people claiming "Trump had to use all those past GOPe rejects [in his first term], there isn't anyone else qualified!" I knew that was false, but without anyone to point to, all I could do was frown.
Yeah one of the more frustrating things in the past here was some people claiming "Trump had to use all those past GOPe rejects [in his first term], there isn't anyone else qualified!" I knew that was false, but without anyone to point to, all I could do was frown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (dfIr7)
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It's a TAX!!!!!
REEEEEE!!!!!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (QB+5g)
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It's more like a fee, really.
It's a TAX!!!!!
REEEEEE!!!!!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (QB+5g)
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It's more like a fee, really.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (GBKbO)
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161 The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
And assholes!
Posted by: Wait, that's TJM, never mind at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (TbWk/)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
And assholes!
Posted by: Wait, that's TJM, never mind at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (TbWk/)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (GBKbO)
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151 Is the GOP pounding the table and promising to get to the bottom of this surplus issue, yet?
Posted by: Weasel
We're busy right now investigatin' on all of these special committees. We'll get back to you. - Jimmy Comer
Posted by: Weasel
We're busy right now investigatin' on all of these special committees. We'll get back to you. - Jimmy Comer
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (/U5Yz)
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I knew that was false, but without anyone to point to, all I could do was frown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (dfIr7)
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Turn that frown upside down!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (dfIr7)
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Turn that frown upside down!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (u73oe)
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Never fear. Congress will spend it faster than your wife spends your paycheck.
Posted by: Dave's not here, man at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (raPis)
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Would any professional economist ever predict Trump policies would be successful?
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (kTd/k)
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The federal government ran at a surplus in June, according to the Treasury Department, meaning money coming in surpassed money going out.
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Blasphemy.
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Blasphemy.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (UjdFS)
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That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
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158 143 I thought tariffs were a huge tax on the american middle class, were horrible economic policy, cause rampant inflation and invariably led to trade wars and never raised any money?
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Another spectacular lie they have no intention of retracting or apologizing for, as they ready the next spectacular lie.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (WHfpM)
Facts don't matter. Results don't matter. Only dogmatic propaganda matters.
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Another spectacular lie they have no intention of retracting or apologizing for, as they ready the next spectacular lie.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (WHfpM)
Facts don't matter. Results don't matter. Only dogmatic propaganda matters.
Posted by: For the Left and NeverTrump, which aren't much different now at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (TbWk/)
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That's with the usurous interest rates.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 02:59 PM (NaR/G)
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How many millions will die, thanks to our surplus?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)
You need to read something besides what the losers wrote to make themselves look good. Sure, they might loose a lot breaking through the front at the start of the offensive, but after that they are chasing the Germans back for a hundred miles and capturing all kinds of men in the 'fortress cities' and other pockets.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)
You need to read something besides what the losers wrote to make themselves look good. Sure, they might loose a lot breaking through the front at the start of the offensive, but after that they are chasing the Germans back for a hundred miles and capturing all kinds of men in the 'fortress cities' and other pockets.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:59 PM (8avO+)
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When you see that money is flowing to men who deal not in goods but in favors; when you see that men get rich not by work but by graft and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them from you, you know your society is doomed.
Paraphrased Ayn Rand was really prescient.
Paraphrased Ayn Rand was really prescient.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 02:59 PM (gpah0)
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Would any professional economist ever predict Trump policies would be successful?
Posted by: Still lurking up north
Kudlow?
Posted by: Still lurking up north
Kudlow?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:00 PM (77rzZ)
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Why aren't German boys defending the Fulda Gap?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 03:00 PM (NaR/G)
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Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:59 PM (8avO+)
So the Soviet’s count of dead are exaggerated?
So the Soviet’s count of dead are exaggerated?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:00 PM (VofaG)
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Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1
Cornelius Ryan touched on that in his book recounting the last days of the 3R. General Heinrici was the German general charged with defending the Eastern Front and his tactics caused the high casualties of the Reds. For example, all Russian offensive began with artillery barrages--so Heinrici abandoned the front lines and then met the Russians head on when they tried to advance. Result massive Red Army casualties.
FWIW, he was one of the last German generals to be dismissed by Mustache Man and he was told to basically get the hell out of Dodge to avoid being purged by the Chief Mad Bugger himself or his remaining henchmen.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1
Cornelius Ryan touched on that in his book recounting the last days of the 3R. General Heinrici was the German general charged with defending the Eastern Front and his tactics caused the high casualties of the Reds. For example, all Russian offensive began with artillery barrages--so Heinrici abandoned the front lines and then met the Russians head on when they tried to advance. Result massive Red Army casualties.
FWIW, he was one of the last German generals to be dismissed by Mustache Man and he was told to basically get the hell out of Dodge to avoid being purged by the Chief Mad Bugger himself or his remaining henchmen.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (ctrM5)
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Yes, tariffs are taxes. The best kind of taxes. Taxes on production that's been outsourced to countries with cheap labor and zero environmental standards.
We don't live in an Adam Smith world where Britain buys cotton from Georgia because they can't grow it. We live in a world where Boeing outsources critical flight software to the cheapest Indian programmer to save a few bucks.
We don't live in an Adam Smith world where Britain buys cotton from Georgia because they can't grow it. We live in a world where Boeing outsources critical flight software to the cheapest Indian programmer to save a few bucks.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (Z9km2)
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Guy needs to go for policy reasons and it turns out he lied to Congress as well about the Fed Reserve HQ revamp. About 700 million over budget but with all kinds of amenities for staff and their higher ups that Powell denied such as a private elevator to executive dining for Powell and cronies. A garden on the roof for parties, etc. and so on.
Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
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That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
There really isn't weapons there to send to Ukraine. The state of their militaries is a shocker, and ours might not be much better aside from front line strength.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
There really isn't weapons there to send to Ukraine. The state of their militaries is a shocker, and ours might not be much better aside from front line strength.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (8avO+)
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176 Why aren't German boys defending the Fulda Gap?
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Not really an issue anymore than the Brenner Pass is.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Not really an issue anymore than the Brenner Pass is.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (ctrM5)
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Americans who aren't used to seeing the words "festive" and "little hats" in the same sentence are in for a surprise.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 03:02 PM (HTa/G)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:02 PM (/U5Yz)
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As the world's most obvious closeted gay, Obama would of course be interested in "magic wands".
Your words are hurtful and untrue.
Your words are hurtful and untrue.
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (rfMRc)
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Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
Pournelle was dead on with his Iron Law of Bureaucracy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
Pournelle was dead on with his Iron Law of Bureaucracy.
Posted by: Self-serving at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (TbWk/)
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Speaking of Gen Z... the voice of a generation?
https://tinyurl.com/evy9wtks
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
https://tinyurl.com/evy9wtks
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
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Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
"Why do we delegate one of congresses primary and enumerated functions (setting monetary policy) to an unaccountable group of wall street bankers who live like kings and can tell any elected official in the US to go fuck themselves despite us living in a so-called representative republic?" might be the better question.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
"Why do we delegate one of congresses primary and enumerated functions (setting monetary policy) to an unaccountable group of wall street bankers who live like kings and can tell any elected official in the US to go fuck themselves despite us living in a so-called representative republic?" might be the better question.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (uCjyK)
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Afternoon, folken,
I'm glad and more than glad to hear this. My president knows what he's doing -- in more areas, at least, than his predecessors in this century, and probably in my lifetime.
I'm glad and more than glad to hear this. My president knows what he's doing -- in more areas, at least, than his predecessors in this century, and probably in my lifetime.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:05 PM (omVj0)
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76 Why aren't German boys defending the Fulda Gap?
Posted by: Boss Moss For the same reason they go 40 kmh on the Autobahn. They are sissy boys.
Posted by: Boss Moss For the same reason they go 40 kmh on the Autobahn. They are sissy boys.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:05 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (Z9km2)
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187 Speaking of Gen Z... the voice of a generation?
https://tinyurl.com/evy9wtks
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, fake, and a stupid question with a stupid answer. The only correct answer to that stupid questions is "neither."
https://tinyurl.com/evy9wtks
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, fake, and a stupid question with a stupid answer. The only correct answer to that stupid questions is "neither."
Posted by: Both Indians and Mexicans have true rape culture BTW at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (TbWk/)
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That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
Its been a while since I read my Glantz, but Russian overall losses was not 10-1, Russian force ratios weren't 10-1 even in 45. And despite being starved for infantry in 45, they managed to advance steadily all the way to Berlin.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
Its been a while since I read my Glantz, but Russian overall losses was not 10-1, Russian force ratios weren't 10-1 even in 45. And despite being starved for infantry in 45, they managed to advance steadily all the way to Berlin.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (8avO+)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Eh, I thought it was funny. But I also very much like the Mexicans and our Central American amigos who I've worked with / interacted with.
Unfortunately, time for them to go home. The sex traffickers AND the ladies with the babies on their backs selling candy on the 6 train.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Eh, I thought it was funny. But I also very much like the Mexicans and our Central American amigos who I've worked with / interacted with.
Unfortunately, time for them to go home. The sex traffickers AND the ladies with the babies on their backs selling candy on the 6 train.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (uCjyK)
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"Why do we delegate one of congresses primary and enumerated functions (setting monetary policy) to an unaccountable group of wall street bankers who live like kings and can tell any elected official in the US to go fuck themselves despite us living in a so-called representative republic?" might be the better question./i]
I understand the principle behind it: that way they are not subject to the whims of any one president or party. But the truth is, they are subject to one party's whims and unaccountable to the American people which is even worse.
I understand the principle behind it: that way they are not subject to the whims of any one president or party. But the truth is, they are subject to one party's whims and unaccountable to the American people which is even worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (dfIr7)
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Nice
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (xcxpd)
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I think the tarriffs are going up in August as the Nancy boys of yourope pretend to be tough.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (NaR/G)
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Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Same thing as the Institute of Peace. Basically Powell has been running the Fed at a massive loss of hundreds of billions while supporting the Biden junta's idiotic economic policies. Powell never said a discouraging word to such idiocy as the Nude Green Eeel or other money drops on illegals, etc.
Independent agencies were theorized to bring technocratic skills and insulation from the awful populists way back when. Turns out, they are just as political, stupid, and shortsighted as politicians are because of agency capture. Party (the Dems) became the unifying glue of the whole Borg of bureaucracy and even the Democrat party. This allowed the bureaucracy to play the opposition party blocking rollbacks when the Courts, Congress, or the Presidency were GOP controlled.
Trump is finally doing something about it. We will see how successful he will be at it but his hits on the Bureaucracy are unprecedented historically
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Same thing as the Institute of Peace. Basically Powell has been running the Fed at a massive loss of hundreds of billions while supporting the Biden junta's idiotic economic policies. Powell never said a discouraging word to such idiocy as the Nude Green Eeel or other money drops on illegals, etc.
Independent agencies were theorized to bring technocratic skills and insulation from the awful populists way back when. Turns out, they are just as political, stupid, and shortsighted as politicians are because of agency capture. Party (the Dems) became the unifying glue of the whole Borg of bureaucracy and even the Democrat party. This allowed the bureaucracy to play the opposition party blocking rollbacks when the Courts, Congress, or the Presidency were GOP controlled.
Trump is finally doing something about it. We will see how successful he will be at it but his hits on the Bureaucracy are unprecedented historically
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:07 PM (ctrM5)
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By the way, I asked Miss Linda to update all of you on my surgery adventure this morning. No problems, except that I am stiff and sore; not sure the Tramadol + ibuprofen is working enough. I'm sitting with an ice pack in place.
Not sleepy at all despite having only five hours last night. Maybe it will hit me tonight about nine and I'll be off to bed for nine hours. Wouldn't that be nice.
Not sleepy at all despite having only five hours last night. Maybe it will hit me tonight about nine and I'll be off to bed for nine hours. Wouldn't that be nice.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:07 PM (omVj0)
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How many millions will die, thanks to our surplus?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
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I mean, given how many people died after Net Neutrality and Covid, how many of us are left, really?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
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I mean, given how many people died after Net Neutrality and Covid, how many of us are left, really?
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 14, 2025 03:07 PM (OGOaV)
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Just got out of a meeting, and thought I should share a thought about the previous Thread.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
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Since late January it is amazing to see what President Trump, DOGE, and others have done to help our country dig out of the black hole (of Biden's brain).
Yet the people scream, "Epstein." Which will someday be solved. Let's first deport every single illegal who's added to the black hole of money debt by fraud. If you pay taxes you are paying for them. Glad they cut USAID, too.
I want them all gone. I don't really care, Margaret, if they chew on their arms on airplanes nor suffer with "elephant sized mosquitos" at Alligator Alcatraz.
I wish someone would suggest pay for view for Alligator Alcatraz, with $ going to the national debt or paying for their transport planes. I would gladly watch this show and laugh at the weenies. Sign the deportation forms, barbarians! Adios! *Farsi good bye*
Yet the people scream, "Epstein." Which will someday be solved. Let's first deport every single illegal who's added to the black hole of money debt by fraud. If you pay taxes you are paying for them. Glad they cut USAID, too.
I want them all gone. I don't really care, Margaret, if they chew on their arms on airplanes nor suffer with "elephant sized mosquitos" at Alligator Alcatraz.
I wish someone would suggest pay for view for Alligator Alcatraz, with $ going to the national debt or paying for their transport planes. I would gladly watch this show and laugh at the weenies. Sign the deportation forms, barbarians! Adios! *Farsi good bye*
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (6PCLE)
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201 Just got out of a meeting, and thought I should share a thought about the previous Thread.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
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Proper word would be alumna.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (GBKbO)
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This is gold: Hegseth just pulled the DOD out of the Aspen globalist summit at the last minute. https://tinyurl.com/5n7rtwu8
Posted by: beckster at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (NLtte)
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Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
Pournelle was dead on with his Iron Law of Bureaucracy.
Posted by: Self-serving at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (TbWk/)
You don't get more money by saving on your allotted budget. You get less. You don't get more power either. If they transferred other departments to you for being under budget, that might help.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
Pournelle was dead on with his Iron Law of Bureaucracy.
Posted by: Self-serving at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (TbWk/)
You don't get more money by saving on your allotted budget. You get less. You don't get more power either. If they transferred other departments to you for being under budget, that might help.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (8avO+)
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The latest "worry" promulgated by the media is that coffee prices will rise because of tariffs on Brazil. The stuff is already overpriced, and I've resorted to using Cafe Morro espresso blend from Aldi and using one less teaspoon of grounds per pot. Is this likely to be a worry at the grocery store?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (omVj0)
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I understand the principle behind it: that way they are not subject to the whims of any one president or party. But the truth is, they are subject to one party's whims and unaccountable to the American people which is even worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (dfIr7)
I'm aware of the argument, it just makes about as much as sense as the argument for a permanent bureaucracy in DC.
We have to ignore everything we know about people, the entire purpose of our constitutional checks and balances, and common sense to assume that the people in those jobs are all truly non-political with unquestionable morals who are experts who just want to do what is right for the country.
Obviously that's not how the world works.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (dfIr7)
I'm aware of the argument, it just makes about as much as sense as the argument for a permanent bureaucracy in DC.
We have to ignore everything we know about people, the entire purpose of our constitutional checks and balances, and common sense to assume that the people in those jobs are all truly non-political with unquestionable morals who are experts who just want to do what is right for the country.
Obviously that's not how the world works.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (uCjyK)
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I have personal experience that some suppliers are trying to pass "tariff expense" onto buyers, but there are these pesky things called contracts that prevent that. I've had to slap three vendors down on that in the last few weeks.
It's possible that some prices will actually go up when firm price contracts expire. Of if enough buyers are stupid enough not to read their contracts.
It's possible that some prices will actually go up when firm price contracts expire. Of if enough buyers are stupid enough not to read their contracts.
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (sFNX2)
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The numbers I learned is that Germany lost about 1.2 million on the Eastern front and the Soviets lost 11 million.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (VofaG)
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Just got out of a meeting, and thought I should share a thought about the previous Thread.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
Aren't you out of work and begging people for money online?
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
Aren't you out of work and begging people for money online?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (8avO+)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Eh, I thought it was funny. But I also very much like the Mexicans and our Central American amigos who I've worked with / interacted with.
Unfortunately, time for them to go home. The sex traffickers AND the ladies with the babies on their backs selling candy on the 6 train.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (uCjyK)
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I think the sex traffickers and ladies with babies selling candy are joined at some point in a Venn. I think probably half those babies are someone else's and used solely as props. Indeed, the whole operation is probably run by organized crime as a fencing operation. I don't believe every 6 train has exactly one -- only one! -- lady with a baby selling the exact same candy.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Eh, I thought it was funny. But I also very much like the Mexicans and our Central American amigos who I've worked with / interacted with.
Unfortunately, time for them to go home. The sex traffickers AND the ladies with the babies on their backs selling candy on the 6 train.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (uCjyK)
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I think the sex traffickers and ladies with babies selling candy are joined at some point in a Venn. I think probably half those babies are someone else's and used solely as props. Indeed, the whole operation is probably run by organized crime as a fencing operation. I don't believe every 6 train has exactly one -- only one! -- lady with a baby selling the exact same candy.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
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Have seen Fulda's gap lately? She's really let herself go. No self-respecting dude wants to be anywhere near that thing.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)
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Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Well done, TJM!!!
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Well done, TJM!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (omVj0)
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Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg
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The pillow company remains a monument to your insight and understanding of the realities of business and manufacturing.
Posted by: David Hogg
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The pillow company remains a monument to your insight and understanding of the realities of business and manufacturing.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (XeU6L)
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Who lost more men in WWII on the Axis side -- Krauts or Japs?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
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Who lost more men in WWII on the Axis side -- Krauts or Japs?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
The Germans by far
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
The Germans by far
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (VofaG)
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The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (omVj0)
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That acquaintance read that somewhere. It's classic persuasion and sloganeering.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (Qr870)
He probably read it in the Financial Times (which Trump reads, BTW). He reads the FT for his job and was enthusiastically promoting it to us. I suppose he left a section on the table headlined with how Trump's tariffs were going to ruin everything for our benefit so we could see how wrong we were.
The couple are both academics and are convinced their students won't be able to find jobs in the next few years. They have personally tightly restricted their budget because Trump's cuts are going to decimate their paychecks. So far they have not noticed that their paychecks are fine and their students are fine. But then, they also haven't noticed that their jabbed relatives repeatedly get Covid infections and can't stay out of the hospital while we vaccine-deniers were one and done.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (Qr870)
He probably read it in the Financial Times (which Trump reads, BTW). He reads the FT for his job and was enthusiastically promoting it to us. I suppose he left a section on the table headlined with how Trump's tariffs were going to ruin everything for our benefit so we could see how wrong we were.
The couple are both academics and are convinced their students won't be able to find jobs in the next few years. They have personally tightly restricted their budget because Trump's cuts are going to decimate their paychecks. So far they have not noticed that their paychecks are fine and their students are fine. But then, they also haven't noticed that their jabbed relatives repeatedly get Covid infections and can't stay out of the hospital while we vaccine-deniers were one and done.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (rF2iL)
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213 Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Well done, TJM!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (omVj0)
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*flexes Latin knowledge*
*is two words*
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Well done, TJM!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (omVj0)
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*flexes Latin knowledge*
*is two words*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (GBKbO)
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I think the sex traffickers and ladies with babies selling candy are joined at some point in a Venn. I think probably half those babies are someone else's and used solely as props. Indeed, the whole operation is probably run by organized crime as a fencing operation. I don't believe every 6 train has exactly one -- only one! -- lady with a baby selling the exact same candy.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, I would imagine it's all an organized scam and the babies are not theirs. I don't know how they all have the exact same aged children bundled on their backs, and as you say, have the exact same collection of "chocolat, sucar" and say the exact same things and act the exact same way.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, I would imagine it's all an organized scam and the babies are not theirs. I don't know how they all have the exact same aged children bundled on their backs, and as you say, have the exact same collection of "chocolat, sucar" and say the exact same things and act the exact same way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (uCjyK)
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You don't get more money by saving on your allotted budget. You get less. You don't get more power either. If they transferred other departments to you for being under budget, that might help.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (8avO+)
This is how every agency operated. It's why fire and police insist on sending 3-4 manned vehicles apiece to every minor fenderbender, or five patrol cars to a call about a guy taking pictures of a townhouse community for a real estate agent to post a listing. Then when they go to the city/county/state with their budgets they can say just how expensive it is keeping the community SEEEEFFFFFF, and they just have to have more money. Otherwise there will be blood flowing in the streets and unfettered commercial photography.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (8avO+)
This is how every agency operated. It's why fire and police insist on sending 3-4 manned vehicles apiece to every minor fenderbender, or five patrol cars to a call about a guy taking pictures of a townhouse community for a real estate agent to post a listing. Then when they go to the city/county/state with their budgets they can say just how expensive it is keeping the community SEEEEFFFFFF, and they just have to have more money. Otherwise there will be blood flowing in the streets and unfettered commercial photography.
Posted by: Same old same old at July 14, 2025 03:14 PM (TbWk/)
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218 The couple are both academics and are convinced their students won't be able to find jobs in the next few years. They have personally tightly restricted their budget because Trump's cuts are going to decimate their paychecks. So far they have not noticed that their paychecks are fine and their students are fine. But then, they also haven't noticed that their jabbed relatives repeatedly get Covid infections and can't stay out of the hospital while we vaccine-deniers were one and done.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (rF2iL)
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"Trump canceled my Social Security check!"
-Lib Boomer who has not missed a single social security direct deposit
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (rF2iL)
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"Trump canceled my Social Security check!"
-Lib Boomer who has not missed a single social security direct deposit
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:14 PM (GBKbO)
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Anyone heard from Rand Paul and Thomas Massie on this?
Posted by: Duke Lowell
How about Justin Amash? Oh, right...
Posted by: Duke Lowell
How about Justin Amash? Oh, right...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 03:14 PM (mlg/3)
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I’m just here to call dibs on your stuff.
Posted by: Dagny the all of Siberian cat at July 14, 2025 03:14 PM (u73oe)
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So TJM is only illiterate in English?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:15 PM (77rzZ)
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The cartels in Mexico are vicious. But read anything about the Mexican Civil War 1910-20 and you shouldn't be surprised
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (Ry3Y5)
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206 The latest "worry" promulgated by the media is that coffee prices will rise because of tariffs on Brazil. The stuff is already overpriced, and I've resorted to using Cafe Morro espresso blend from Aldi and using one less teaspoon of grounds per pot. Is this likely to be a worry at the grocery store?
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One of the biggest reason we joined Costco, besides gas prices, was the savings on Coffee.
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One of the biggest reason we joined Costco, besides gas prices, was the savings on Coffee.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (W3T6M)
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“Mr. Biden himself has hired a new personal lawyer, Amy Jeffress of Hecker Fink.”
Jeffress is married to DC District Court Judge Chris Cooper. He is presiding over a few lawsuits against the president.
Jeffress is married to DC District Court Judge Chris Cooper. He is presiding over a few lawsuits against the president.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (/U5Yz)
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>>> 217 The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (omVj0)
Well, you *do* have an injury of sorts, correct? Is she purring at you?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (omVj0)
Well, you *do* have an injury of sorts, correct? Is she purring at you?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (ULPxl)
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225 So TJM is only illiterate in English?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:15 PM (77rzZ)
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I would show off my literacy of Quenya, but my keyboard isn't right.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:15 PM (77rzZ)
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I would show off my literacy of Quenya, but my keyboard isn't right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)
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The revenue comes from you and me.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (4raCh)
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231 The revenue comes from you and me.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (4raCh)
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You're a foreign exporter shipping to the US who can't increase prices on the exports because of existing contracts?
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (4raCh)
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You're a foreign exporter shipping to the US who can't increase prices on the exports because of existing contracts?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)
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Obviously that's not how the world works.
Yeah I assumed you knew the argument already. The flaw we have is that nearly every new thing added to government that is over and above the constitutionally-permitted limits of it deliberately avoids the checks and balances because people in power hate that.
The "spoils" system of appointing people for example was flawed in that it would enrich cronies and yes-men, but it was checked and balanced by the term limits of presidents and the elections. Voters didn't care for how he did things? He's out on his ear and we get a new bunch of cronies.
Yeah I assumed you knew the argument already. The flaw we have is that nearly every new thing added to government that is over and above the constitutionally-permitted limits of it deliberately avoids the checks and balances because people in power hate that.
The "spoils" system of appointing people for example was flawed in that it would enrich cronies and yes-men, but it was checked and balanced by the term limits of presidents and the elections. Voters didn't care for how he did things? He's out on his ear and we get a new bunch of cronies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
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A surplus from a new tax though is not the victory I’m looking for. I’m all for a surplus from deep spending cuts.
Liberals try and make the same case that consumers don’t pay the tax when they jack up corporate taxes, energy taxes, windfall taxes, etc.
Liberals try and make the same case that consumers don’t pay the tax when they jack up corporate taxes, energy taxes, windfall taxes, etc.
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 03:18 PM (g0oCT)
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213 Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
Alu-min-i-um.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
Alu-min-i-um.
Posted by: UK Karen at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (wVcYX)
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"The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?"
Didn't you just have an operation?
Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (QB+5g)
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Is this about me?
Posted by: Fulda at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (bcy1V)
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Absenteeism at CA farms said to be around 70% due to ongoing immigration raids.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (lIio7)
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The "spoils" system of appointing people for example was flawed in that it would enrich cronies and yes-men, but it was checked and balanced by the term limits of presidents and the elections. Voters didn't care for how he did things? He's out on his ear and we get a new bunch of cronies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
Right. It also had the added benefit of giving you one throat to choke.
"This government official sucks, and I'm holding you, Mr. President, personally responsible."
Now it's "well, shit, the executive branch does whatever they want, and it's damned near impossible to fire anyone, so how can you blame your elected officials for how they act? We'll see if we can update the processes."
Easy way to shift the blame from a person to an intractable "process"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
Right. It also had the added benefit of giving you one throat to choke.
"This government official sucks, and I'm holding you, Mr. President, personally responsible."
Now it's "well, shit, the executive branch does whatever they want, and it's damned near impossible to fire anyone, so how can you blame your elected officials for how they act? We'll see if we can update the processes."
Easy way to shift the blame from a person to an intractable "process"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (uCjyK)
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WOW - if relevant:
John Kiriakou
@JohnKiriakou
4h
John Brennan was responsible for the approval of visas to many 9/11 hijackers. As the CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, he was linked to several uninvestigated, questionable incidents.
I discuss this and more with @MelKShow
https://tinyurl.com/5ensb35c
John Kiriakou
@JohnKiriakou
4h
John Brennan was responsible for the approval of visas to many 9/11 hijackers. As the CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, he was linked to several uninvestigated, questionable incidents.
I discuss this and more with @MelKShow
https://tinyurl.com/5ensb35c
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (3447G)
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Wolfus, last night Keiko, the gorgeous long hair calico who has been visiting our yard at night laid down on the grass a few feet away from me. She's either stray or feral and has always bolted before, but she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (B3wyN)
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A surplus from a new tax though is not the victory I’m looking for. I’m all for a surplus from deep spending cuts.
Trump for all his positives does not seem all that interested in cuts. He's trying to balance the budget through leaner, more efficient government, a scorching hot economy, and tariff revenues. And it can work but cuts have a double benefit of reducing government power to constitutional limits, and reducing debt.
Trump for all his positives does not seem all that interested in cuts. He's trying to balance the budget through leaner, more efficient government, a scorching hot economy, and tariff revenues. And it can work but cuts have a double benefit of reducing government power to constitutional limits, and reducing debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (dfIr7)
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The couple are both academics and are convinced their students won't be able to find jobs in the next few years. They have personally tightly restricted their budget because Trump's cuts are going to decimate their paychecks. So far they have not noticed that their paychecks are fine and their students are fine.
Posted by: Emmie
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They are smart enough to cut their spending but it will not be because of Trump. It will be because US academia is collapsing in value added for Americans. Due to lack of demand, a lot of private colleges and even state schools in places like Illinois, etc. have enrollments that are spiraling downward.
Posted by: Emmie
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They are smart enough to cut their spending but it will not be because of Trump. It will be because US academia is collapsing in value added for Americans. Due to lack of demand, a lot of private colleges and even state schools in places like Illinois, etc. have enrollments that are spiraling downward.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (ctrM5)
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I approve of Ade's referring the the previous executive as "President" Biden.
We should awlays those quotation marks.
Remember when Barry Bonds broke all the Home Run records and then he was later suspected of taking steroids, and fans of opposing teams would hold up a sign with a giant asterisk, implying that Bonds's record weren't legitimate, and that he should have an asterisk next to his name in the recoird books?
We'll, we should do the same with Biden.
He wasn't really president.
We should awlays those quotation marks.
Remember when Barry Bonds broke all the Home Run records and then he was later suspected of taking steroids, and fans of opposing teams would hold up a sign with a giant asterisk, implying that Bonds's record weren't legitimate, and that he should have an asterisk next to his name in the recoird books?
We'll, we should do the same with Biden.
He wasn't really president.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (pMi6S)
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The numbers I learned is that Germany lost about 1.2 million on the Eastern front and the Soviets lost 11 million.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (VofaG)
the West German military historian Burkhart Müller-Hillebrand (de) published the third volume of his study of the German Army in World War II Das Heer 1933–1945 that listed OKW casualty figures and his estimate of total German casualties. Müller-Hillebrand maintained that the OKW figures did not present an accurate accounting of German casualties because they understated losses in the final months of the war on the eastern front and post war deaths of POW in Soviet captivity. According to Müller-Hillebrand actual irrecoverable losses in the war were between 3.3 and 4.5 million men. Overall Müller-Hillebrand estimated the total dead and missing at 4.0 million men.[23]
You also have to remember is that Germany took many prisoners in the early war and routinely starved them to death. These would swell the 'dead' number for the Soviets in the early war.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (VofaG)
the West German military historian Burkhart Müller-Hillebrand (de) published the third volume of his study of the German Army in World War II Das Heer 1933–1945 that listed OKW casualty figures and his estimate of total German casualties. Müller-Hillebrand maintained that the OKW figures did not present an accurate accounting of German casualties because they understated losses in the final months of the war on the eastern front and post war deaths of POW in Soviet captivity. According to Müller-Hillebrand actual irrecoverable losses in the war were between 3.3 and 4.5 million men. Overall Müller-Hillebrand estimated the total dead and missing at 4.0 million men.[23]
You also have to remember is that Germany took many prisoners in the early war and routinely starved them to death. These would swell the 'dead' number for the Soviets in the early war.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (8avO+)
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Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (lIio7)
I guess they are going to have to spring for mor automation. Also what happened to migrant farm worker temporary visas?
I guess they are going to have to spring for mor automation. Also what happened to migrant farm worker temporary visas?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (VofaG)
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The cartels in Mexico are vicious. But read anything about the Mexican Civil War 1910-20 and you shouldn't be surprised
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025
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One of my Spanish teachers in high school mentioned that Mexico had the first Marxist revolution in history, even before the USSR. See the Pancho Villa raid on Columbus, New Mexico, in 1916, handled by "Black Jack" Pershing.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025
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One of my Spanish teachers in high school mentioned that Mexico had the first Marxist revolution in history, even before the USSR. See the Pancho Villa raid on Columbus, New Mexico, in 1916, handled by "Black Jack" Pershing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (wVcYX)
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John Brennan was responsible for the approval of visas to many 9/11 hijackers. As the CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, he was linked to several uninvestigated, questionable incidents.
I discuss this and more with @MelKShow
https://tinyurl.com/5ensb35c
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (3447G)
not surprising.
But also,
"that was like 20 years ago, so move on and talk about autopens" - everyone when you talk about Epstein or anything related to the intel agencies.
I discuss this and more with @MelKShow
https://tinyurl.com/5ensb35c
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (3447G)
not surprising.
But also,
"that was like 20 years ago, so move on and talk about autopens" - everyone when you talk about Epstein or anything related to the intel agencies.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (uCjyK)
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241 Wolfus, last night Keiko, the gorgeous long hair calico who has been visiting our yard at night laid down on the grass a few feet away from me. She's either stray or feral and has always bolted before, but she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
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Let her smell your feet. That's the next move in the courtship.
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Let her smell your feet. That's the next move in the courtship.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (W3T6M)
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244 We'll, we should do the same with Biden.
He wasn't really president.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (pMi6S)
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Biden's Treasury Secretary said that no Treasury Secretary has had direct access to the payment systems of the US since 1948.
No president has had access to the government's payment systems through his political appointees since Eisenhower.
Can we say any president since has been president?
He wasn't really president.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (pMi6S)
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Biden's Treasury Secretary said that no Treasury Secretary has had direct access to the payment systems of the US since 1948.
No president has had access to the government's payment systems through his political appointees since Eisenhower.
Can we say any president since has been president?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (GBKbO)
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204 This is gold: Hegseth just pulled the DOD out of the Aspen globalist summit at the last minute. https://tinyurl.com/5n7rtwu8
Posted by: beckster at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (NLtte)
I love this! Like Lucy holding Charlie Brown's football, last minute: "You are not going!
I looked at the speakers. Sounds like a bunch of globalist (I typed originally globulists and that fits, too) bullsharte global gobbledgook. Gobbledy goop ala Gweneth? Peace through rigmarole and diagrams. Oh, just shut up!
I love you, Pete Hegseth!
Posted by: beckster at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (NLtte)
I love this! Like Lucy holding Charlie Brown's football, last minute: "You are not going!
I looked at the speakers. Sounds like a bunch of globalist (I typed originally globulists and that fits, too) bullsharte global gobbledgook. Gobbledy goop ala Gweneth? Peace through rigmarole and diagrams. Oh, just shut up!
I love you, Pete Hegseth!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (6PCLE)
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Wolfus, last night Keiko, the gorgeous long hair calico who has been visiting our yard at night laid down on the grass a few feet away from me. She's either stray or feral and has always bolted before, but she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025
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Maybe in a few years, say five or six, your visitor and my Dagny will deign to acknowledge us.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025
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Maybe in a few years, say five or six, your visitor and my Dagny will deign to acknowledge us.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:23 PM (omVj0)
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Absenteeism at CA farms said to be around 70% due to ongoing immigration raids.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (lIio7)
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If we are talking just manual labor in agriculture, I think it's probably 90% illegals. There are probably a few legals and citizens in supervisory positions, but the guy actually picking the shit are almost exclusively illegal. It's like yard service workers in suburban NYC and NJ -- 99% illegals.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (lIio7)
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If we are talking just manual labor in agriculture, I think it's probably 90% illegals. There are probably a few legals and citizens in supervisory positions, but the guy actually picking the shit are almost exclusively illegal. It's like yard service workers in suburban NYC and NJ -- 99% illegals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
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As another thought, while "DEFUND THE POLICE" is retarded because of the motivation and the goals, taking a hard look at their budgets, staffing, and quantitative and qualitative aspects of utilization would be a very wise thing to do. Dogpatch doesn't need a Bearcat or a goddamn MRAP. Not every emergency call requires a dozen firefighter-paramedics, or a half-dozen squad cars. There's a fuckload of waste, abuse and bloat that could be eliminated without diminishing efficacy. But few people want to talk about that because the Thin Blue Line crowd is just as knee-jerk and dogmatic as BLM.
Posted by: Accountability isn't anti-law-and-order at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (TbWk/)
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she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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You have been rated 'edible, if no battle is required'
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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You have been rated 'edible, if no battle is required'
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (RErwz)
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See.................. President Biden's policies are working !!!!!
it just took Trump to implement them to make it work !!!!
it just took Trump to implement them to make it work !!!!
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (aKoaI)
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"The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?"
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Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
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Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
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257 See.................. President Biden's policies are working !!!!!
it just took Trump to implement them to make it work !!!!
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (aKoaI)
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Biden's last speech as president said that any growth in the economy under Trump would be because of Biden's policies.
it just took Trump to implement them to make it work !!!!
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (aKoaI)
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Biden's last speech as president said that any growth in the economy under Trump would be because of Biden's policies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)
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Absenteeism at CA farms said to be around 70% due to ongoing immigration raids.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme
Also more than enough to buy equipment, depreciate the equipment, write it off & buy more.
Gotta be cheaper than weekly cash paydays.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme
Also more than enough to buy equipment, depreciate the equipment, write it off & buy more.
Gotta be cheaper than weekly cash paydays.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (+bLMA)
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The "spoils" system of appointing people for example was flawed in that it would enrich cronies and yes-men, but it was checked and balanced by the term limits of presidents and the elections. Voters didn't care for how he did things? He's out on his ear and we get a new bunch of cronies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
Right. It also had the added benefit of giving you one throat to choke.
"This government official sucks, and I'm holding you, Mr. President, personally responsible."
Now it's "well, shit, the executive branch does whatever they want, and it's damned near impossible to fire anyone, so how can you blame your elected officials for how they act? We'll see if we can update the processes."
Easy way to shift the blame from a person to an intractable "process"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (uCjyK)
It had the disadvantage that right after the start of the term when the new president is maximally busy there is a huge added turnover. Lincoln had this issue at the start of the ACW. On the other hand, fewer hangover traitors from the other party.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
Right. It also had the added benefit of giving you one throat to choke.
"This government official sucks, and I'm holding you, Mr. President, personally responsible."
Now it's "well, shit, the executive branch does whatever they want, and it's damned near impossible to fire anyone, so how can you blame your elected officials for how they act? We'll see if we can update the processes."
Easy way to shift the blame from a person to an intractable "process"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (uCjyK)
It had the disadvantage that right after the start of the term when the new president is maximally busy there is a huge added turnover. Lincoln had this issue at the start of the ACW. On the other hand, fewer hangover traitors from the other party.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (8avO+)
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she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Your aura has changed shape and color.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Your aura has changed shape and color.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (wVcYX)
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If we are talking just manual labor in agriculture, I think it's probably 90% illegals. There are probably a few legals and citizens in supervisory positions, but the guy actually picking the shit are almost exclusively illegal. It's like yard service workers in suburban NYC and NJ -- 99% illegals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
We’ve had these illegals for decades so a lot of these workers are anchor babies.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
We’ve had these illegals for decades so a lot of these workers are anchor babies.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (VofaG)
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she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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You have been rated 'edible, if no battle is required'
Posted by: 2009Refugee
*snort
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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You have been rated 'edible, if no battle is required'
Posted by: 2009Refugee
*snort
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (+bLMA)
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Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
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260 Also more than enough to buy equipment, depreciate the equipment, write it off & buy more.
Gotta be cheaper than weekly cash paydays.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (+bLMA)
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They could rent the equipment, as well, instead of buying it.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Gotta be cheaper than weekly cash paydays.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (+bLMA)
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They could rent the equipment, as well, instead of buying it.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump for all his positives does not seem all that interested in cuts. He's trying to balance the budget through leaner, more efficient government, a scorching hot economy, and tariff revenues. And it can work but cuts have a double benefit of reducing government power to constitutional limits, and reducing debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Trump is pragmatic in that he sees no upside to pushing cuts that Congress will not approve. A puny rescission bill (about 9.1 billion) is currently in front of the Senate (after passing the House) but it gores some sacred cows for some senators like PBS, NPR, and other useless shit.
Trump called Ryan's bluff in the first term by giving Congress a budget proposal that had massive cuts in government. Ryan instead pivoted to bleating about cutting Social Security which is their go to move to forestall budget cuts (see earlier thread).
The major drivers of the structural deficit are Social Security (there will need to be another move to up the retirement age to 65 and 70 which would stabilize it), Medicare and Medicaid. Medicaid got some modest pruning in the BBB reconciliation bill. Medicare is untouched so far.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Trump is pragmatic in that he sees no upside to pushing cuts that Congress will not approve. A puny rescission bill (about 9.1 billion) is currently in front of the Senate (after passing the House) but it gores some sacred cows for some senators like PBS, NPR, and other useless shit.
Trump called Ryan's bluff in the first term by giving Congress a budget proposal that had massive cuts in government. Ryan instead pivoted to bleating about cutting Social Security which is their go to move to forestall budget cuts (see earlier thread).
The major drivers of the structural deficit are Social Security (there will need to be another move to up the retirement age to 65 and 70 which would stabilize it), Medicare and Medicaid. Medicaid got some modest pruning in the BBB reconciliation bill. Medicare is untouched so far.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (ctrM5)
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265 Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
You sir, are a true Patriot!
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
You sir, are a true Patriot!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (uCjyK)
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Do you think she knows?
Smell like the hospital?
You are less stressed subconsciously?
You visited her while in Spritland?
Smell like the hospital?
You are less stressed subconsciously?
You visited her while in Spritland?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (QB+5g)
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241 Wolfus, last night Keiko, the gorgeous long hair calico who has been visiting our yard at night laid down on the grass a few feet away from me. She's either stray or feral and has always bolted before, but she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (B3wyN)
Have you put on a few pounds lately?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (B3wyN)
Have you put on a few pounds lately?
Posted by: Rich marbling at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (TbWk/)
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I think it's the tuna sandwich he carries outside.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (UjdFS)
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"The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?"
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Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
She absolutely knows. My female cat slept right by the break on my arm 24-7 virtually from the day I broke it to the day the doctor pronounced it healed. On the side it was broken. At the hip not the head or feet. She never slept in that spot before or since.
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Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
She absolutely knows. My female cat slept right by the break on my arm 24-7 virtually from the day I broke it to the day the doctor pronounced it healed. On the side it was broken. At the hip not the head or feet. She never slept in that spot before or since.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (8avO+)
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A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
A whole apartment in an afternoon! Two coats!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
A whole apartment in an afternoon! Two coats!
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (77rzZ)
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This is gold: Hegseth just pulled the DOD out of the Aspen globalist summit at the last minute. https://tinyurl.com/5n7rtwu8
Posted by: beckster
A promotional video released by U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth forecasting “drone dominance” has been recast after Metallica successfully demanded the removal of one of their songs from the offering.
The original clip used Metallica’s 1991 metal anthem “Enter Sandman” as Hegseth can be seen speaking to camera as he explains how his department is fulfilling the Oval Office order.
“This is the future,” he declared. “We’re in the fight. We’re in the fight to win it. And we’re never gonna back down.”
The track has since been scrubbed from social media after the band objected to a copyright breach per its unauthorized use.
This is gold: Hegseth just pulled the DOD out of the Aspen globalist summit at the last minute. https://tinyurl.com/5n7rtwu8
Posted by: beckster
A promotional video released by U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth forecasting “drone dominance” has been recast after Metallica successfully demanded the removal of one of their songs from the offering.
The original clip used Metallica’s 1991 metal anthem “Enter Sandman” as Hegseth can be seen speaking to camera as he explains how his department is fulfilling the Oval Office order.
“This is the future,” he declared. “We’re in the fight. We’re in the fight to win it. And we’re never gonna back down.”
The track has since been scrubbed from social media after the band objected to a copyright breach per its unauthorized use.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (63Dwl)
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Never stop nudging the argument Left, CNBC. That's all you've got. Once you start reporting the "Real News," people will never believe you again.
Posted by: Kurtz at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (LRhmV)
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I think it's the tuna sandwich he carries outside.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (UjdFS)
A tiger's favorite food!
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (UjdFS)
A tiger's favorite food!
Posted by: Calvin at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (wVcYX)
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268 265 Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
Oh noes you can’t humble brag about your most recent purchases of luxury cars.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
Oh noes you can’t humble brag about your most recent purchases of luxury cars.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (VofaG)
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Well, you *do* have an injury of sorts, correct? Is she purring at you?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025
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I don't know about "at" me, but she is purring. With her it's hard to tell unless you put an ear to her side or run a finger along her voice box.
When I came back from oral surgery years ago, little Oreo the part-Persian climbed up in bed and slept the afternoon with me. Clearly she knew something was wrong. I'm not lying in bed this time right now, so I wonder how Dagny can know.
Well, you *do* have an injury of sorts, correct? Is she purring at you?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025
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I don't know about "at" me, but she is purring. With her it's hard to tell unless you put an ear to her side or run a finger along her voice box.
When I came back from oral surgery years ago, little Oreo the part-Persian climbed up in bed and slept the afternoon with me. Clearly she knew something was wrong. I'm not lying in bed this time right now, so I wonder how Dagny can know.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (omVj0)
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The Eastern Front of World War II resulted in staggering casualties, with the Soviet Union suffering the most, followed by Germany. Estimates vary, but the Soviet Union lost between 8.8 and 10.7 million soldiers and 10.4 to 13.3 million civilians. Germany sustained around 5.3 million military deaths, primarily on the Eastern Front.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (Ovc06)
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:29 PM (HZLHo)
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Churchillian in Nature from the Greatest President in a Trillion Years ......
Former Greatest Ever President Obama’s message to Democrats is to “just toughen up” amid frustration with the political landscape under President Trump.
“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said in remarks at a private fundraiser Friday in New Jersey, according to excerpts of his remarks obtained by CNN.
“Don’t tell me you’re a Democrat, but you’re kind of disappointed right now, so you’re not doing anything. No, now is exactly the time that you get in there and do something,” he said.
Former Greatest Ever President Obama’s message to Democrats is to “just toughen up” amid frustration with the political landscape under President Trump.
“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said in remarks at a private fundraiser Friday in New Jersey, according to excerpts of his remarks obtained by CNN.
“Don’t tell me you’re a Democrat, but you’re kind of disappointed right now, so you’re not doing anything. No, now is exactly the time that you get in there and do something,” he said.
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:29 PM (aKoaI)
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Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
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I’m fucking ecstatic, thanks for asking.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
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I’m fucking ecstatic, thanks for asking.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (u73oe)
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If we are talking just manual labor in agriculture, I think it's probably 90% illegals. There are probably a few legals and citizens in supervisory positions, but the guy actually picking the shit are almost exclusively illegal. It's like yard service workers in suburban NYC and NJ -- 99% illegals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
We’ve had these illegals for decades so a lot of these workers are anchor babies.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (VofaG)
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Possibly, but if they're legal citizens then they aren't as pliable and desperate as illegals. I suspect the laborers are a rotating crop of illegals paid and treated as basically slave labor. In suburban areas, they gather at the crack of dawn in 7-11 parking lots and wait for the trucks to come to pick out workers they want for the day -- like a slave auction. I doubt any of these are legals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
We’ve had these illegals for decades so a lot of these workers are anchor babies.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (VofaG)
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Possibly, but if they're legal citizens then they aren't as pliable and desperate as illegals. I suspect the laborers are a rotating crop of illegals paid and treated as basically slave labor. In suburban areas, they gather at the crack of dawn in 7-11 parking lots and wait for the trucks to come to pick out workers they want for the day -- like a slave auction. I doubt any of these are legals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (iFTx/)
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280 This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:29 PM (HZLHo)
My mother had a double hip replacement. I was very disappointed to find out that she didn't even request to keep the originals.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:29 PM (HZLHo)
My mother had a double hip replacement. I was very disappointed to find out that she didn't even request to keep the originals.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (KbCG3)
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Maybe in a few years, say five or six, your visitor and my Dagny will deign to acknowledge us.
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She deigns to accept the food I put out; primarily leftovers the other cats have failed to finish.
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She deigns to accept the food I put out; primarily leftovers the other cats have failed to finish.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (fElA8)
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They could rent the equipment, as well, instead of buying it.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
Farm work has been largely mechanized for 100 years.
There are no longer hundreds of people hand picking corn in fields at harvest time, requiring a massive amount of seasonal labor.
This "we need illegals or we'll starve to death" talking point is insulting to our intelligence.
The illegals working on those farms have what many of us would consider decent jobs, and Americans should be working those jobs, and Big Ag should have to follow American employment laws, like the rest of the country. (currently, farm work is exempted from a lot of labor laws, but not from immigration laws, and yet somehow this is the status quo.)
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
Farm work has been largely mechanized for 100 years.
There are no longer hundreds of people hand picking corn in fields at harvest time, requiring a massive amount of seasonal labor.
This "we need illegals or we'll starve to death" talking point is insulting to our intelligence.
The illegals working on those farms have what many of us would consider decent jobs, and Americans should be working those jobs, and Big Ag should have to follow American employment laws, like the rest of the country. (currently, farm work is exempted from a lot of labor laws, but not from immigration laws, and yet somehow this is the status quo.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (uCjyK)
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265 Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest
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Previously you were around talking about how much Covid relief money you got and your tax breaks. Que sera sera.
Posted by: jwest
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Previously you were around talking about how much Covid relief money you got and your tax breaks. Que sera sera.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (Ovc06)
Under 2 million on the eastern front . 1.2 million is what I read long ago,
Under 2 million on the eastern front . 1.2 million is what I read long ago,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (VofaG)
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But few people want to talk about that because the Thin Blue Line crowd is just as knee-jerk and dogmatic as BLM.
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I'd be more inclined to be Thin Blue Line if they're weren't so willing to prostitute their image with motorcyle cops. Those cops are police, they are revenue machines and I resent that any police force even pretends otherwise.
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I'd be more inclined to be Thin Blue Line if they're weren't so willing to prostitute their image with motorcyle cops. Those cops are police, they are revenue machines and I resent that any police force even pretends otherwise.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:31 PM (TN0g+)
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The track has since been scrubbed from social media after the band objected to a copyright breach per its unauthorized use.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Did they actually forget about copyright, or did they just go ahead and use it anyway because they thought Metallica wouldn't give them the rights?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Did they actually forget about copyright, or did they just go ahead and use it anyway because they thought Metallica wouldn't give them the rights?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:31 PM (77rzZ)
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They could rent the equipment, as well, instead of buying it.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
True. I see huge pieces of equipment going up and fown the highway at certain times of the year.
Farmer that has land and doesn't want to deal with planting and harvest hires out the job.
Same with hay. We grow it. Someone else cuts & bales it. We could negotiate a deal on how much we could keep.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
True. I see huge pieces of equipment going up and fown the highway at certain times of the year.
Farmer that has land and doesn't want to deal with planting and harvest hires out the job.
Same with hay. We grow it. Someone else cuts & bales it. We could negotiate a deal on how much we could keep.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:32 PM (+bLMA)
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I think it's the tuna sandwich he carries outside.
Posted by: wth
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As a young'n, I tamed a feral barn kitten. One, from a litter of 3. It took a lot of patience, and a lot of treats.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: wth
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As a young'n, I tamed a feral barn kitten. One, from a litter of 3. It took a lot of patience, and a lot of treats.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (RErwz)
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Possibly, but if they're legal citizens then they aren't as pliable and desperate as illegals. I suspect the laborers are a rotating crop of illegals paid and treated as basically slave labor. In suburban areas, they gather at the crack of dawn in 7-11 parking lots and wait for the trucks to come to pick out workers they want for the day -- like a slave auction. I doubt any of these are legals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (iFTx/)
Look at the "Trade Parade" leaving the Hamptons every day at 6-7pm. Thousands and thousands of beat up old pick up trucks and 1993 Honda Civics with NJ temp plates full of Hispanic people leaving one of the richest areas to drive home to whatever hovels they live in.
I would wager almost 100% of them are illegals.
And there is absolutely no reason US citizens can't mow the lawns of $20 million seasonal mansions, and they should get paid appropriately for that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (iFTx/)
Look at the "Trade Parade" leaving the Hamptons every day at 6-7pm. Thousands and thousands of beat up old pick up trucks and 1993 Honda Civics with NJ temp plates full of Hispanic people leaving one of the richest areas to drive home to whatever hovels they live in.
I would wager almost 100% of them are illegals.
And there is absolutely no reason US citizens can't mow the lawns of $20 million seasonal mansions, and they should get paid appropriately for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (uCjyK)
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Alumnanatti.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (NaR/G)
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025
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Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025
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No leftovers. They opened me up, pushed some stuff back in, and sealed the breach (I hope for good).
Maybe Dagny scents something odd about me since I got the antibiotics and anesthesia.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025
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Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025
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No leftovers. They opened me up, pushed some stuff back in, and sealed the breach (I hope for good).
Maybe Dagny scents something odd about me since I got the antibiotics and anesthesia.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:34 PM (omVj0)
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Wait until no tax on tips, no tax on social security, handing pensioners formerly off-set SS funds due to changes in laws, and so on. Oh, and Assisted Living Care facilities needing more money - much more - is or Pop goes home.
Medicare/medicaid pikers need to be removed from rolls and paying towards their existence; illegals need to be out of hospital ERs and the zillion 'underground' physician & PA services that have been setup for them. Student loans, federal loan programs need total restructuring & enforcement.
If your children are being raised by others, that's where the $ goes. Time to stop addicts, etc. from still receiving funding if they don't seriously try to improve their own lives.
Stop marijuana in any form & other questionable drugs for those that need to have jobs. They're not supposed to be using & driving. How can employers trust they won't injure someone else - or kill themselves - on the job? Who insures them?
How ya gonna make the pikers work?
Pennsylvania’s Medical Marijuana Program Expanded Significantly After Anxiety Was Added As A Qualifying Condition, Study Shows, 9 July 2025
Can't save everyone but the idle mind IS the devil's workshop..
Medicare/medicaid pikers need to be removed from rolls and paying towards their existence; illegals need to be out of hospital ERs and the zillion 'underground' physician & PA services that have been setup for them. Student loans, federal loan programs need total restructuring & enforcement.
If your children are being raised by others, that's where the $ goes. Time to stop addicts, etc. from still receiving funding if they don't seriously try to improve their own lives.
Stop marijuana in any form & other questionable drugs for those that need to have jobs. They're not supposed to be using & driving. How can employers trust they won't injure someone else - or kill themselves - on the job? Who insures them?
How ya gonna make the pikers work?
Pennsylvania’s Medical Marijuana Program Expanded Significantly After Anxiety Was Added As A Qualifying Condition, Study Shows, 9 July 2025
Can't save everyone but the idle mind IS the devil's workshop..
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (NFX2v)
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The illegals working on those farms have what many of us would consider decent jobs, and Americans should be working those jobs, and Big Ag should have to follow American employment laws, like the rest of the country. (currently, farm work is exempted from a lot of labor laws, but not from immigration laws, and yet somehow this is the status quo.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Harry, with all due respect, I come from a farming state and visit it frequently. Plus I interviewed farmers for the various ag surveys in summer to pay for grad school back in the day and come personally from a farming family. The illegals, more or less are not present much in large rowcrop farms. That is because the equipment is incredibly expensive and often the only person that ends up operating it is the farmer or one of his family due to trust. Modern cotton pickers or combines run close to a cool million nowadays, tractors of the sort used for field operations are GPS guided, network linked, and damn near drive themselves.
Most of the illegals, if any, work at agri processing plants (cotton gins, grain elevators, livestock, produce, etc. where low skill and nasty working conditions prevail).
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Harry, with all due respect, I come from a farming state and visit it frequently. Plus I interviewed farmers for the various ag surveys in summer to pay for grad school back in the day and come personally from a farming family. The illegals, more or less are not present much in large rowcrop farms. That is because the equipment is incredibly expensive and often the only person that ends up operating it is the farmer or one of his family due to trust. Modern cotton pickers or combines run close to a cool million nowadays, tractors of the sort used for field operations are GPS guided, network linked, and damn near drive themselves.
Most of the illegals, if any, work at agri processing plants (cotton gins, grain elevators, livestock, produce, etc. where low skill and nasty working conditions prevail).
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
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A Hawaiian judge ruled that ICE can't pick up illegals at Home Depot locations. No, I have no idea what the legal basis for that is. I'm pretty sure HD isn't mentioned in the Constitution.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (2ocoG)
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As a young'n, I tamed a feral barn kitten. One, from a litter of 3. It took a lot of patience, and a lot of treats.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025
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You got him right during that narrow window when even a feral can be socialized, I guess.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025
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You got him right during that narrow window when even a feral can be socialized, I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (omVj0)
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It's right there in the Home Depot Clause of the Constitution.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (NaR/G)
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I don't understand these economists who completely squander their reputations in service of the Democratic Party and the verminous media. My reputation would matter too much for that.
To be fair I don't have any kind of reputation to protect, but still.
To be fair I don't have any kind of reputation to protect, but still.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (kTd/k)
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It had the disadvantage that right after the start of the term when the new president is maximally busy there is a huge added turnover. Lincoln had this issue at the start of the ACW. On the other hand, fewer hangover traitors from the other party.
Every system has its drawbacks but to me the one that makes people in power the more accountable is superior to the one that makes them less so, whatever the drawbacks.
Every system has its drawbacks but to me the one that makes people in power the more accountable is superior to the one that makes them less so, whatever the drawbacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (dfIr7)
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So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Colombia has legal prostitution, and lots and lots of weed and coke. The only ones to ride for free in Bogotá are the politicians, and only the senior ones at that.
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Colombia has legal prostitution, and lots and lots of weed and coke. The only ones to ride for free in Bogotá are the politicians, and only the senior ones at that.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (D7oie)
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Noodus icenana
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (omVj0)
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Look at the "Trade Parade" leaving the Hamptons every day at 6-7pm. Thousands and thousands of beat up old pick up trucks and 1993 Honda Civics with NJ temp plates full of Hispanic people leaving one of the richest areas to drive home to whatever hovels they live in.
I would wager almost 100% of them are illegals.
And there is absolutely no reason US citizens can't mow the lawns of $20 million seasonal mansions, and they should get paid appropriately for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (uCjyK)
"Doing the jobs that Americans won't do" is pure bullshit. Americans WILL do the jobs, but they won't do it for sub-minimum wage off the books, which is what agribusiness and the Muffys and Thurstons of the world want. "Nobody wants to work anymore" - not at wages that were sub-entry-level in 1994 they don't.
I would wager almost 100% of them are illegals.
And there is absolutely no reason US citizens can't mow the lawns of $20 million seasonal mansions, and they should get paid appropriately for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (uCjyK)
"Doing the jobs that Americans won't do" is pure bullshit. Americans WILL do the jobs, but they won't do it for sub-minimum wage off the books, which is what agribusiness and the Muffys and Thurstons of the world want. "Nobody wants to work anymore" - not at wages that were sub-entry-level in 1994 they don't.
Posted by: Market-clearing wage? Never heard of it. at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (TbWk/)
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Who lost more men in WWII on the Axis side -- Krauts or Japs?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
The Germans by far
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (VofaG)
Japanese military casualties during World War II are estimated to be between 2.5 million and 3.1 million.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
The Germans by far
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (VofaG)
Japanese military casualties during World War II are estimated to be between 2.5 million and 3.1 million.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (8avO+)
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It's right there in the Home Depot Clause of the Constitution.
Posted by: Boss Moss
That's where they talk about Drills of Attainder, right?
Posted by: Boss Moss
That's where they talk about Drills of Attainder, right?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (77rzZ)
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Medicare/medicaid pikers need to be removed from rolls and paying towards their existence; illegals need to be out of hospital ERs and the zillion 'underground' physician & PA services that have been setup for them. Student loans, federal loan programs need total restructuring & enforcement.
Posted by: L
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Medicaid finally got congressional attention and cuts were made precisely where you wanted them. Same with student loans for grad school. Currently student borrowers are being dunned again after 5 years including garnishing wages, tax returns, etc.
Medicare is an age related attachment to Social Security which makes it much harder to fix. Most likely, medicare taxes will go up by a couple of percentage points in payroll taxes.
Posted by: L
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Medicaid finally got congressional attention and cuts were made precisely where you wanted them. Same with student loans for grad school. Currently student borrowers are being dunned again after 5 years including garnishing wages, tax returns, etc.
Medicare is an age related attachment to Social Security which makes it much harder to fix. Most likely, medicare taxes will go up by a couple of percentage points in payroll taxes.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (ctrM5)
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You got him right during that narrow window when even a feral can be socialized, I guess.
Ferals can be socialized even as adults. I did so with one long ago by putting food on one side of the porch every night and then sitting quietly at the opposite end of the porch. It took about 2 months if I remember correctly.
Ferals can be socialized even as adults. I did so with one long ago by putting food on one side of the porch every night and then sitting quietly at the opposite end of the porch. It took about 2 months if I remember correctly.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (TN0g+)
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You got him right during that narrow window when even a feral can be socialized, I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Yes
I can still hear Dad, working in the garage, calling him "fatcat", and joking "you should go tell your siblings what a great deal you have here in the house. "
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Yes
I can still hear Dad, working in the garage, calling him "fatcat", and joking "you should go tell your siblings what a great deal you have here in the house. "
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (RErwz)
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Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
Taxes, printing, and most recently getting loans from the US.
AT POWELL'S HIGH RATE!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
Taxes, printing, and most recently getting loans from the US.
AT POWELL'S HIGH RATE!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (D7oie)
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277 268 265 Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
hmm I wasn't super happy before but ...
ok well you've convinced me!
hmm I wasn't super happy before but ...
ok well you've convinced me!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
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It had the disadvantage that right after the start of the term when the new president is maximally busy there is a huge added turnover. Lincoln had this issue at the start of the ACW. On the other hand, fewer hangover traitors from the other party.
Every system has its drawbacks but to me the one that makes people in power the more accountable is superior to the one that makes them less so, whatever the drawbacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, you can go back 5000 or so years and see what happens when the 'mandarins' have more power than the executive power.
Every system has its drawbacks but to me the one that makes people in power the more accountable is superior to the one that makes them less so, whatever the drawbacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, you can go back 5000 or so years and see what happens when the 'mandarins' have more power than the executive power.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (8avO+)
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301 I don't understand these economists who completely squander their reputations in service of the Democratic Party and the verminous media. My reputation would matter too much for that.
To be fair I don't have any kind of reputation to protect, but still.
Posted by: Still lurking up north
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Because to them, it is akin to becoming an atheist. The Party is their faith.
To be fair I don't have any kind of reputation to protect, but still.
Posted by: Still lurking up north
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Because to them, it is akin to becoming an atheist. The Party is their faith.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (ctrM5)
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Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
Taxes, printing, and most recently getting loans from the US.
AT POWELL'S HIGH RATE!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (D7oie)
At this point, I don't think the EU has direct taxing power. This pisses them off a lot. Once they get that it is all over for Europe.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
Taxes, printing, and most recently getting loans from the US.
AT POWELL'S HIGH RATE!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (D7oie)
At this point, I don't think the EU has direct taxing power. This pisses them off a lot. Once they get that it is all over for Europe.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (8avO+)
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"Doing the jobs that Americans won't do" is pure bullshit. Americans WILL do the jobs, but they won't do it for sub-minimum wage off the books, which is what agribusiness and the Muffys and Thurstons of the world want. "Nobody wants to work anymore" - not at wages that were sub-entry-level in 1994 they don't.
so I always had an American dude - a neighbor even! - doing the grounds. just realized why the ELITES don't want to hire him or someone like him
I talk to him! he comes by, we shoot the shit, talk about our gardens, etc. he makes fun of my orchid problems.
these people just want quiet slaves! they don't want to do the chit-chat!
so I always had an American dude - a neighbor even! - doing the grounds. just realized why the ELITES don't want to hire him or someone like him
I talk to him! he comes by, we shoot the shit, talk about our gardens, etc. he makes fun of my orchid problems.
these people just want quiet slaves! they don't want to do the chit-chat!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
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A Hawaiian judge ruled that ICE can't pick up illegals at Home Depot locations. No, I have no idea what the legal basis for that is. I'm pretty sure HD isn't mentioned in the Constitution.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (2ocoG)
So? Have ICE, or observers in civilian clothes set up across the street, and observe the illegals with telescopes (and video, of course). When a group of them enter a vehicle, radio the vehicle's description and tag number to ICE agents a block or two away to pull them over.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (2ocoG)
So? Have ICE, or observers in civilian clothes set up across the street, and observe the illegals with telescopes (and video, of course). When a group of them enter a vehicle, radio the vehicle's description and tag number to ICE agents a block or two away to pull them over.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (b47tW)
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Whig, high interest rates make borrowing too painful, it reduces inflation, mildly in this case, borrowing where the zero rates under Biden encouraged it.
Inflation is in part money printing, but in our fiat system money isn't actually printed as much as it is borrowed into existence. A loan is imaginary money until the borrower pays it off to "make it real" , and if the rate of interest charged the borrower is less than the actual increase in value it brings, it is inflationary just as if the Fed made the machine go brrr. We are still inflationary, but the people the high-ish interest rate is hurting the most is the EU central bank.
Inflation is in part money printing, but in our fiat system money isn't actually printed as much as it is borrowed into existence. A loan is imaginary money until the borrower pays it off to "make it real" , and if the rate of interest charged the borrower is less than the actual increase in value it brings, it is inflationary just as if the Fed made the machine go brrr. We are still inflationary, but the people the high-ish interest rate is hurting the most is the EU central bank.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:47 PM (D7oie)
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Japanese military casualties during World War II are estimated to be between 2.5 million and 3.1 million.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (8avO+)
Germans lost 5+ million total.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (8avO+)
Germans lost 5+ million total.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (VofaG)
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As a young'n, I tamed a feral barn kitten. One, from a litter of 3. It took a lot of patience, and a lot of treats.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (RErwz)
I think housecats are never as feral as say Wildcats. They've been in close association with people even as unfed alley cats and barn cats (and most barn cats are at least partly fed) for too long. I've also seen 'switches' in a housecat where one day a cat that never was a lap cat suddenly is. Its like they have a caution level and an affection level and one day the caution setting drops and all sorts of new behaviors show up.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (RErwz)
I think housecats are never as feral as say Wildcats. They've been in close association with people even as unfed alley cats and barn cats (and most barn cats are at least partly fed) for too long. I've also seen 'switches' in a housecat where one day a cat that never was a lap cat suddenly is. Its like they have a caution level and an affection level and one day the caution setting drops and all sorts of new behaviors show up.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (8avO+)
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Japanese military casualties during World War II are estimated to be between 2.5 million and 3.1 million.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (8avO+)
Germans lost 5+ million total.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (VofaG)
thus, as you say, the Japanese lost a lot less.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (8avO+)
Germans lost 5+ million total.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:49 PM (VofaG)
thus, as you say, the Japanese lost a lot less.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (8avO+)
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But the townships just care about their permit fees. They damn right know many independent contractors have no employees as per their state registration but pick up loads of illegals for roofing, drywall, etc.
What about industrial cleaning services? Burn or poison a worker and what workers comp or state disability when injured (or deceased) do they get? Drop one off a roof; who's responsible?
Homeowners have been under investigation, too, depending, but we pay - just like the men killed in the Baltimore bridge. And, frankly, the employers & states love it.
And the unions do not stop it.
What about industrial cleaning services? Burn or poison a worker and what workers comp or state disability when injured (or deceased) do they get? Drop one off a roof; who's responsible?
Homeowners have been under investigation, too, depending, but we pay - just like the men killed in the Baltimore bridge. And, frankly, the employers & states love it.
And the unions do not stop it.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (NFX2v)
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so I always had an American dude - a neighbor even! - doing the grounds. just realized why the ELITES don't want to hire him or someone like him
I talk to him! he comes by, we shoot the shit, talk about our gardens, etc. he makes fun of my orchid problems.
these people just want quiet slaves! they don't want to do the chit-chat!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
Some of the fellows that have the tech want to justify it and like the process.
I talk to him! he comes by, we shoot the shit, talk about our gardens, etc. he makes fun of my orchid problems.
these people just want quiet slaves! they don't want to do the chit-chat!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
Some of the fellows that have the tech want to justify it and like the process.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:52 PM (VofaG)
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Most of the illegals, if any, work at agri processing plants (cotton gins, grain elevators, livestock, produce, etc. where low skill and nasty working conditions prevail).
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
A good number work in ag and wildland fire fighting in the summers, and construction and fast food in the winter. A fair number also work in ag through labor contractors, who are supposed to do the vetting by e-verify.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
A good number work in ag and wildland fire fighting in the summers, and construction and fast food in the winter. A fair number also work in ag through labor contractors, who are supposed to do the vetting by e-verify.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 04:03 PM (D7oie)
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A large number of Federal expenditures were shifted back into May because June 1 fell on a Sunday. Hence the huge May deficit and the June 'surplus'. 'Tis mostly an illusion caused by the calendar.
Posted by: Guy Fleegman as Crewman #6 at July 14, 2025 04:04 PM (vydmm)
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Monthly surpluses are not that unusual, often during tax collection months.
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Posted by: MartynWW at July 14, 2025 05:31 PM (vXpHP)
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More Lies and Fake News from CNBC the Lying Peacock News just like ABC,CBS and CNN
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Funny how we were the most prosperous we ever were under tariffs until the 16th Amendment. Not.
Thx for allowing comments, Ace.
Thx for allowing comments, Ace.
Posted by: Danimal28 at July 15, 2025 07:57 AM (klw0w)
"Unprepared and Entitled:" Hiring Managers Aren't Impressed by the Products of American University Education
Our best and brightest don't know how to read, write, think, talk, or work.
Let's pay another ten trillion to our "universities."That last part is a killer. It's also why DEI hires/promotions are usually a disaster. Everyone infected with woke is also infected by the comorbidity of believing that all criticism/direction from your boss is a racial or sexual aggression, and that you're perfect the way you are, and that anyone who attempts to instruct you to do the job the right way is a racist who doesn't understand your Different Ways of Knowing. It's an evil and destructive doctrine -- it's a guarantee against any self-improvement at any point in your future. It's a talisman that protects you from excellence and achievement. And they've all got it.
A recent survey from Intelligent found that "1 in 4 hiring managers say recent grads are unprepared for the workforce" and "1 in 8 managers [are] planning to avoid hiring them in 2025." The main reasons for this are lack of preparation, a so-so work ethic, and a sense of entitlement among the grads, according to the survey. "24% of hiring managers believe recent college graduates are unprepared for the workforce, while 33% cite a lack of work ethic, and 29% view them as entitled," the survey found. "Additionally, 27% feel recent graduates are easily offended, and 25% say they don't respond well to feedback."
Maybe they have to show something other than GPA because all employers now know that colleges give everyone, even people who don't ever come to class, A's and B's with a skew towards the A's. Maybe students aren't alone in failure.
The survey results appear to mirror a trend found in recent headlines. A "2025 college graduate job market" search conducted by The College Fix produced the following headlines: "Class of 2025 College Grads Face Uncertain Job Market" "Job Market is Getting Tougher for College Graduates" "New Grads Struggling to Find Work in Job Market "No Hire, No Fire: The Worst Market for Grads in Years" ... He suggested grads tout their "skills and talent, not just a GPA" to "share what [they] are doing to continuously make [themselves] better."
On Sunday, the National Education Association -- which represents over 3 million teachers and school personnel -- passed a resolution at its annual conference pledging to combat what it labeled "Trump's embrace of fascism." The problem? The resolution repeatedly spelled the word "fascism" as "facism." The resolution read in part: "NEA pledges to defend democracy against Trump's embrace of facism [sic] by using the term facism [sic] in NEA materials to correctly characterize Donald Trump's program and actions." It went on to claim that opposing Trump was essential for "the survival of civilization itself" and demanded additional staff and funding -- to the tune of $3,500 -- to carry out the initiative. The misspelling, however, quickly overshadowed the message. Corey A. DeAngelis, a conservative education expert, blasted the NEA in an X post and follow-up opinion piece. "Yes, the union that claims to represent educators couldn't even spell 'fascism' correctly in its official resolution attacking the president," he wrote. "The irony is almost too rich to parody."
Back in November 2024, the Atlantic posted an article: "The Elite College Students Who Can't Read Books." The word "elite" seems wildly misplaced in that sentence.
The Elite College Students Who Can't Read Books
To read a book in college, it helps to have read a book in high school.
Nicholas Dames has taught Literature Humanities, Columbia University's required great-books course, since 1998. He loves the job, but it has changed. Over the past decade, students have become overwhelmed by the reading. College kids have never read everything they're assigned, of course, but this feels different. Dames's students now seem bewildered by the thought of finishing multiple books a semester. His colleagues have noticed the same problem. Many students no longer arrive at college--even at highly selective, elite colleges--prepared to read books. This development puzzled Dames until one day during the fall 2022 semester, when a first-year student came to his office hours to share how challenging she had found the early assignments. Lit Hum often requires students to read a book, sometimes a very long and dense one, in just a week or two. But the student told Dames that, at her public high school, she had never been required to read an entire book. She had been assigned excerpts, poetry, and news articles, but not a single book cover to cover. "My jaw dropped," Dames told me. The anecdote helped explain the change he was seeing in his students: It's not that they don't want to do the reading. It's that they don't know how. Middle and high schools have stopped asking them to.
... Twenty years ago, Dames's classes had no problem engaging in sophisticated discussions of Pride and Prejudice one week and Crime and Punishment the next. Now his students tell him up front that the reading load feels impossible. It's not just the frenetic pace; they struggle to attend to small details while keeping track of the overall plot. No comprehensive data exist on this trend, but the majority of the 33 professors I spoke with relayed similar experiences. Many had discussed the change at faculty meetings and in conversations with fellow instructors. Anthony Grafton, a Princeton historian, said his students arrive on campus with a narrower vocabulary and less understanding of language than they used to have. There are always students who "read insightfully and easily and write beautifully," he said, "but they are now more exceptions." Jack Chen, a Chinese-literature professor at the University of Virginia, finds his students "shutting down" when confronted with ideas they don't understand; they're less able to persist through a challenging text than they used to be. Daniel Shore, the chair of Georgetown's English department, told me that his students have trouble staying focused on even a sonnet. Failing to complete a 14-line poem without succumbing to distraction suggests one familiar explanation for the decline in reading aptitude: smartphones. Teenagers are constantly tempted by their devices, which inhibits their preparation for the rigors of college coursework--then they get to college, and the distractions keep flowing. "It's changed expectations about what's worthy of attention," Daniel Willingham, a psychologist at UVA, told me. "Being bored has become unnatural." Reading books, even for pleasure, can't compete with TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. In 1976, about 40 percent of high-school seniors said they had read at least six books for fun in the previous year, compared with 11.5 percent who hadn't read any. By 2022, those percentages had flipped.
This UConn student is completely illiterate, by her own admission.
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My youngest tells me that the other intern in their group this summer gets a lot of coaching on professional communication.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)
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Posted by: RUReadingthis at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (aQ25I)
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As a 45 year-old contractor within the DoD orbit, I see it every day, and I LOVE it.
All I have to be is 'mildly competent,' and I'm leaps and bounds better than these jackwagons. Actually begin good at my job just widens the chasm between me and my 'peers.'
I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Those two facts alone put me far, far in front of any competition for my position and for promotions, should I seek them.
All I have to be is 'mildly competent,' and I'm leaps and bounds better than these jackwagons. Actually begin good at my job just widens the chasm between me and my 'peers.'
I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Those two facts alone put me far, far in front of any competition for my position and for promotions, should I seek them.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
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The collapse of American education is actually the biggest story of the modern era. But it is little discussed.
In short: We are boned. Civilization is doomed.
"Students" these days learn absolutely nothing, and their brains are fried by social media and AI.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
In short: We are boned. Civilization is doomed.
"Students" these days learn absolutely nothing, and their brains are fried by social media and AI.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
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My son works 50-65 hours per week (finance). He's in it until he gets F-U money or burns out, whichever comes first. He is a millennial. His masters is from a state school, however.
They aren't all slackers.
They aren't all slackers.
Posted by: Ann at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (4neFu)
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It's okay, though.
Now we have ChatGPT to produce book summaries for students, so they can sound like they've read the book and maybe even feel they did get the gist of it.
Welcome to my nightmare.
Now we have ChatGPT to produce book summaries for students, so they can sound like they've read the book and maybe even feel they did get the gist of it.
Welcome to my nightmare.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (mXn49)
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Can't even read cursive.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (DJPFk)
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This started a long time ago. I was in a trade school in the 90s and we stopped class one day to teach basic math to a single student, I'm talking division and multiplication. he claimed teachers discouraged the students from reading.
Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (U/7CP)
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Affirmative Action Has Consequences
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (Bi+MU)
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"This UConn student is completely illiterate, by her own admission."
Sorry, but I'm calling BIGGUS BULLSHITTUS on that. She seems reasonably articulate and intelligent in the video, and she's from Puerto Rico where English is an official language. I'll bet money this is an op or plea for attention.
Sorry, but I'm calling BIGGUS BULLSHITTUS on that. She seems reasonably articulate and intelligent in the video, and she's from Puerto Rico where English is an official language. I'll bet money this is an op or plea for attention.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
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Those two facts alone put me far, far in front of any competition for my position and for promotions, should I seek them.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
Heh.
Hehehehe.
hahahahHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!
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Wait, you're serious?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
Heh.
Hehehehe.
hahahahHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!
....
Wait, you're serious?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (VoAdT)
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Also, Computers and the Internet are the worst things that ever happened for Education.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (Bi+MU)
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Fascinating. Shows how much the Left loves abortion.
Normally they eradicate the "intellectuals" AFTER they take over, but now they're preventing them from even being formed!
Normally they eradicate the "intellectuals" AFTER they take over, but now they're preventing them from even being formed!
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (JCZqz)
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I don't have a pithy take on this other than
a) this will be used as the excuse to let in more H1B's and other immigrants to take white collar jobs
b) there is certainly a loss of institutional competency throughout education
c) a not unsubstantial part of this is driven by immigrants, many of whom come to the US and are put in classrooms for the first time in their lives as 12 year olds, where they don't speak English and are 8 years behind where their classmates are, which massively slows down education for everyone.
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d) I remember these exact same articles being written when my generation (millennials) were graduating college.
a) this will be used as the excuse to let in more H1B's and other immigrants to take white collar jobs
b) there is certainly a loss of institutional competency throughout education
c) a not unsubstantial part of this is driven by immigrants, many of whom come to the US and are put in classrooms for the first time in their lives as 12 year olds, where they don't speak English and are 8 years behind where their classmates are, which massively slows down education for everyone.
and
d) I remember these exact same articles being written when my generation (millennials) were graduating college.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:28 PM (uCjyK)
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>>I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Only 10% on Ace and the Hub?
That's dedication.
Only 10% on Ace and the Hub?
That's dedication.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:29 PM (Bi+MU)
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he claimed teachers discouraged the students from reading.
Plausible. Because students who will read on their own initiative might figure out that 1) (some) teachers are full of sh*t and 2) maybe they don't really need teachers at all.
Plausible. Because students who will read on their own initiative might figure out that 1) (some) teachers are full of sh*t and 2) maybe they don't really need teachers at all.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:29 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Some new college grad at July 14, 2025 01:30 PM (t0Rmr)
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Reading at college can be dangerous.
Remember by modern standards even most leftwing authors from the past are "far right wing extremist bigots".
Remember by modern standards even most leftwing authors from the past are "far right wing extremist bigots".
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM (t0Rmr)
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"Students" these days learn absolutely nothing, and their brains are fried by social media and AI.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
My Gen Z legal interns think I'm a dinosaur when I get mad at them for using ChatGPT for everything.
First off, ChatGPT sucks. Second off, I'm giving you this assignment because I want YOU to learn how to write a demand letter. I can do it myself it speed was the ultimate goal.
You're not going to learn by copy and pasting from ChatGPT.
But they all made it through college and law school using LLM's and Quimbee and other cheating methods, so here we are.
It's not great.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
My Gen Z legal interns think I'm a dinosaur when I get mad at them for using ChatGPT for everything.
First off, ChatGPT sucks. Second off, I'm giving you this assignment because I want YOU to learn how to write a demand letter. I can do it myself it speed was the ultimate goal.
You're not going to learn by copy and pasting from ChatGPT.
But they all made it through college and law school using LLM's and Quimbee and other cheating methods, so here we are.
It's not great.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM (uCjyK)
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Our best and brightest don't know how to read, write, think, talk, or work.
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Case in point, J-school grads.
Local headline yesterday:
"How will [local college] foootball team fair this season.
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Case in point, J-school grads.
Local headline yesterday:
"How will [local college] foootball team fair this season.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (poXs5)
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Worse, they don’t “know people” or focus on making strategic friends.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (Pce4l)
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Competence is a Christian-fascist ideal.
And trying to do well is taking unfair advantage of those who can't. I wish we were both kidding but we aren't.
And trying to do well is taking unfair advantage of those who can't. I wish we were both kidding but we aren't.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (/y8xj)
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I think that colleges always shit out a significant percentage of morons, slackers, and imbeciles. That's not new. What is new is that those MSI are no longer disappearing into the background after graduation. They're demanding high-powered jobs. And if the Biden era is any indication, at least some of them are getting them.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (iFTx/)
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Too bad there's not a place on the interwebz where one could have a weekly discussion of all things books and writing...
Posted by: Oh, wait... at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (bcy1V)
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Now we have ChatGPT to produce book summaries for students, so they can sound like they've read the book and maybe even feel they did get the gist of it.
Welcome to my nightmare.
Posted by: Dr. T
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They've always been available. Or at least well before the internet via Cliffsnotes. It's 100% the ease of availability through the smartphones.
Welcome to my nightmare.
Posted by: Dr. T
_________
They've always been available. Or at least well before the internet via Cliffsnotes. It's 100% the ease of availability through the smartphones.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (p16cu)
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Let's not pretend that these little mouthbreathing homunculi would all turn into men and women of letters if they just paid a little more attention in class or had teachers who weren't all slinging dildoes around and cornholing anything that stops moving for three seconds.
It likely isn't so much that there's so many more mediocrities than there once were, so much as we're taking the same old mediocrities who knew better than to go to college in the first place, shoving a piece of construction paper with their name on it into their hand, inserting them feet first into the woodchipper of debt slavery, and saying "congratulations you're a college now".
It likely isn't so much that there's so many more mediocrities than there once were, so much as we're taking the same old mediocrities who knew better than to go to college in the first place, shoving a piece of construction paper with their name on it into their hand, inserting them feet first into the woodchipper of debt slavery, and saying "congratulations you're a college now".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
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F u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb!
Posted by: 1978 Subway Ad at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (G5+As)
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son works 50-65 hours per week (finance). He's in it until he gets F-U money or burns out"
I have one who did that. He now does odd jobs "when he feels like it".
Has a nearly $500k house (no mortgage), nice truck, and a very nice set of various investments. Says he's tired of working with stupid people...
I have one who did that. He now does odd jobs "when he feels like it".
Has a nearly $500k house (no mortgage), nice truck, and a very nice set of various investments. Says he's tired of working with stupid people...
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (tubbA)
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12 Also, Computers and the Internet are the worst things that ever happened for Education.
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Yep.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (W3T6M)
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I’ve noticed a lot of them seem to be allergic to punctuality as well.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (u73oe)
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I see a field ripe for exploitation by trial lawyers.
Massive multi billion dollar class action because Johnny and Jane cannot follow their dream into a McMansion.
Massive multi billion dollar class action because Johnny and Jane cannot follow their dream into a McMansion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (tT6L1)
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What kind of test scores can a student be getting if she can't read? UConn's acceptance standards have always been of the "closing time" variety, but they don't even have standards now.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (2ap+5)
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>>Let's not pretend that these little mouthbreathing homunculi would all turn into men and women of letters if they just paid a little more attention in class or had teachers who weren't all slinging dildoes around and cornholing anything that stops moving for three seconds.
It would definitely be less effective than sending them to the Mines as children.
Make Child Labor Great Again.
It would definitely be less effective than sending them to the Mines as children.
Make Child Labor Great Again.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (Bi+MU)
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Actually, illiteracy begins in 1st grade.
Kids should be reading right out of the gate, if they aren't reading they aren't learning.
Kids should be reading right out of the gate, if they aren't reading they aren't learning.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (XV/Pl)
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Aside from AoS, my most addictive online readin g is the "Teachers" subreddit on Reddit, which is overflowing with mind-boggling horror stories about what education is like these days, and the monstrosity f American K-12 and college students.
In short, the universal consensus amongst the hundreds of thousands of teachers who comment there, is that modern students:
— Are physically incapable of learning, their brains having been shot-circuited and totally fried from infancy by iPhones, social media, gakes and AI.
— Have no curioisity, enthusiasm, empathy or ambition, and jut "don't care" about anything, even their own failure and idiocy.
— Are rude, entitled, dismissive, amoral, self-centered and smug, to the pi t of barely even being human
— Less discussed, but equally catastrophic: THe few who do learn are taught garbage and brainwashing indoctrination by the leftist curricula and teachers, so they still don't learn anything anyway, even when they do pay attention.
End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
In short, the universal consensus amongst the hundreds of thousands of teachers who comment there, is that modern students:
— Are physically incapable of learning, their brains having been shot-circuited and totally fried from infancy by iPhones, social media, gakes and AI.
— Have no curioisity, enthusiasm, empathy or ambition, and jut "don't care" about anything, even their own failure and idiocy.
— Are rude, entitled, dismissive, amoral, self-centered and smug, to the pi t of barely even being human
— Less discussed, but equally catastrophic: THe few who do learn are taught garbage and brainwashing indoctrination by the leftist curricula and teachers, so they still don't learn anything anyway, even when they do pay attention.
End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (pMi6S)
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"Competence is a Christian-fascist ideal."
They'd probably write that, but spell it "facist " instead.
They'd probably write that, but spell it "facist " instead.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (2GCMq)
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Is it Johnny's fault? OH, NOOOOO!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (vd6bO)
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It's a Language Model.
Essentially, Distilled Stupidity.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
It's a bit scary for me, too. I can easily spot when an intern fucks something up in a draft. But I assume my interns aren't going to fabricate caselaw and fake quotes.
ChatGPT I have to verify literally everything, and even then, I don't know if the case it cited is the controlling case. Legal research is a pain in the balls, but also there's a reason it is supposed to be done so methodically and why people spend so much time in their 1L year learning about keycites and books in libraries and all of that.
Essentially, Distilled Stupidity.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
It's a bit scary for me, too. I can easily spot when an intern fucks something up in a draft. But I assume my interns aren't going to fabricate caselaw and fake quotes.
ChatGPT I have to verify literally everything, and even then, I don't know if the case it cited is the controlling case. Legal research is a pain in the balls, but also there's a reason it is supposed to be done so methodically and why people spend so much time in their 1L year learning about keycites and books in libraries and all of that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (uCjyK)
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If you're female feel free to insert the word "like" at least two times into every sentence you speak.
Posted by: Don't get me started at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (bcy1V)
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I had an applicant write her resume on the back of her application letter (rife with grammatical errors) in pencil.
I brought her in for an interview just out of morbid curiosity. Shorts and a T-shirt, no writing instrument. No idea what we did. I ended up giving here a bit a tutorial on proper interview behavior. I'm kind of hoping she gets a job with a competitor.
I brought her in for an interview just out of morbid curiosity. Shorts and a T-shirt, no writing instrument. No idea what we did. I ended up giving here a bit a tutorial on proper interview behavior. I'm kind of hoping she gets a job with a competitor.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (dIske)
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Don't get this English major started on the current crop of illiterates.
Posted by: pookysgirl doesn't feel like typing out an essay on her phone at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (WRiYD)
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It's not that they don't want to do the reading. It's that they don't know how. Middle and high schools have stopped asking them to.
Asking?
It's not that they don't want to do the reading. It's that they don't know how. Middle and high schools have stopped asking them to.
Asking?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (63Dwl)
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Propaganda to get H1-Bs in full...
Trust me, I've seen the hiring process this year for the capable kids. MAKE industry hire them 1st before ever thinking about one visa for any American job.
AKA - you want American security and resources for your business. Hire Americans.
Trust me, I've seen the hiring process this year for the capable kids. MAKE industry hire them 1st before ever thinking about one visa for any American job.
AKA - you want American security and resources for your business. Hire Americans.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (tOcjL)
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I remember the story of the summer interns that didn't want to adhere to the dress code their "employer" had. So they protested and th3n were promptly fired. One of the leaders of the protest said "We were just doing what we learned in college."
I was hired right out of college. Well actually I kept the same job that had put me through college but at double my pay and got a promotion from designer to mechanical design engineer. Within two years I was a project engineer.
I was hired right out of college. Well actually I kept the same job that had put me through college but at double my pay and got a promotion from designer to mechanical design engineer. Within two years I was a project engineer.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (17s+e)
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In short, the universal consensus amongst the hundreds of thousands of teachers who comment there, is that modern students:
The problem is primarily with the culture, but American teachers are part of that problem.
The people complaining that their students are lazy and entitled, demand their raises not be tied to competence and complain bitterly any time they put in extra hours.
The problem is primarily with the culture, but American teachers are part of that problem.
The people complaining that their students are lazy and entitled, demand their raises not be tied to competence and complain bitterly any time they put in extra hours.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:36 PM (t0Rmr)
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Organizations heavily staffed by women are incompetent and failing. How can that be?
Posted by: Ray at July 14, 2025 01:36 PM (zhWvq)
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Ed Schools need to be remediated. It's source for this tidal disaster.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 01:36 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 01:36 PM (A1Mmr)
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (Qr870)
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The problem? The resolution repeatedly spelled the word "fascism" as "facism."
maybe they don't want to offend people with a lisp. like when lara trump insulted people with a stutter when she mentioned biden's cognitive decline
maybe they don't want to offend people with a lisp. like when lara trump insulted people with a stutter when she mentioned biden's cognitive decline
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (CWTWj)
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It's a Language Model.
Essentially, Distilled Stupidity.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
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On a recent Tech Thread, it was noticed that AI functions best in environments where A) no one has the necessary expertise in a particular field and B) no one cares about the outcome.
So, government work.
Essentially, Distilled Stupidity.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
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On a recent Tech Thread, it was noticed that AI functions best in environments where A) no one has the necessary expertise in a particular field and B) no one cares about the outcome.
So, government work.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (XZ5S6)
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About a third of these kids are on Ritalin or Xanax.
Many have the attention spans of mosquitoes and that’s on top of the relatively short attention span of the average American - television and now TikTok have that affect on people.
The most they can read is a short article without turning to their phones for a dopamine hit.
Only the young people with natural curiosity, high intelligence, the most dedication to learning and/or a certain career goal are getting an actual education these days it seems.
Many have the attention spans of mosquitoes and that’s on top of the relatively short attention span of the average American - television and now TikTok have that affect on people.
The most they can read is a short article without turning to their phones for a dopamine hit.
Only the young people with natural curiosity, high intelligence, the most dedication to learning and/or a certain career goal are getting an actual education these days it seems.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (6ydKt)
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welp I have one recent grad who graduated into a job waiting for her and I promise you she is smart as hell and a hard worker
she works in tech and tells me she is shocked to no longer be the "smartest" - they are all so sharp
so .. this isn't everyone. she did get a STEM degree and all my kids went to private catholic schools and read a LOT of books in school and out
this story is why we paid a whole fuckton of money for the private catholic schools, sigh
they were worth it tho
she works in tech and tells me she is shocked to no longer be the "smartest" - they are all so sharp
so .. this isn't everyone. she did get a STEM degree and all my kids went to private catholic schools and read a LOT of books in school and out
this story is why we paid a whole fuckton of money for the private catholic schools, sigh
they were worth it tho
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (Pv3Rg)
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I remember the story of the summer interns that didn't want to adhere to the dress code their "employer" had. So they protested and th3n were promptly fired. One of the leaders of the protest said "We were just doing what we learned in college."
TBH it was a great learning experience for them I hope.
A manager will put up with some amount of crap from high performing employees but an intern? NEXT.
TBH it was a great learning experience for them I hope.
A manager will put up with some amount of crap from high performing employees but an intern? NEXT.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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Well, I don't know who corporate America is hiring then; i just retired with 27 years of military and law enforcement service and can't get a goddam interview.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
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As a Millennial I just want to enjoy it being my turn to say:
Man these kids today, amirite??
Good start but wait until you get your first junk mail from AARP before setting the rocker out on the front porch.
Man these kids today, amirite??
Good start but wait until you get your first junk mail from AARP before setting the rocker out on the front porch.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (/y8xj)
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DEI will not go away until all women are fired from HR.
All other measures allow the cancer core to remain.
Woke/DEI is a supremacist mind-virus impervious to facts or consequences.
And it will still survive outside due to Griggs v. Duke Energy, which outsourced placement test to higher ed.
Which, like all monopolies, have found they are not personally responsible for producing a product of any quality because the customer is trapped.
All other measures allow the cancer core to remain.
Woke/DEI is a supremacist mind-virus impervious to facts or consequences.
And it will still survive outside due to Griggs v. Duke Energy, which outsourced placement test to higher ed.
Which, like all monopolies, have found they are not personally responsible for producing a product of any quality because the customer is trapped.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (JThEY)
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47 Organizations heavily staffed by women are incompetent and failing. How can that be?
Ray Im female and I agree with you
Ray Im female and I agree with you
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Let me help you get your kids off to a good start.
Posted by: Theodore Geisel at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (bcy1V)
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The future's pretty bleak when you consider there will likely be nobody who can repair or maintain the technology and infrastructure in modern society. The coming collapse will be the end of America as it slides into a giant, technologically broken society with small pockets of civilization barely kept alive by the few who actually know how to fix and build shit.
And that's after the civil war(s) that had decimated what survived the original collapse.
Makes for a good EoT book.
And that's after the civil war(s) that had decimated what survived the original collapse.
Makes for a good EoT book.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)
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Speaking of which, I got unsolicited junk mail from an assisted living facility last week. Google probably told them to send it.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (/y8xj)
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56 Well, I don't know who corporate America is hiring then; i just retired with 27 years of military and law enforcement service and can't get a goddam interview.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
This, too, 100%. Companies want the benefits of America while paying the wages of the 3rd world to slaves who can't leave them. We need a new slogan. American First And Always for American Companies.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
This, too, 100%. Companies want the benefits of America while paying the wages of the 3rd world to slaves who can't leave them. We need a new slogan. American First And Always for American Companies.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (tOcjL)
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my daughter's co has very little HR. she wasn't onboarded at all
just got in, got projects, here's the team, start coding shit
just got in, got projects, here's the team, start coding shit
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Affirmative Action Has Consequences
Posted by: garrett
Once you accept that the only reason for failure is racism, then standards are just an arcane relic. That's why universities fight so hard to avoid getting rid of DEI.
https://is.gd/lYhw05
Harvard Grad Schools Rebrand Diversity Offices as University Wipes DEI Messaging
So far, the rebranding has largely happened without layoffs of top staff and with the promise of replacement programs. But details on Harvard’s new approach have remained scant, and little has been communicated to students and faculty...But the removal of DEI language has coincided with its replacement by language on pluralism, dialogue, and ideological diversity...Other changes were made quietly. An HSPH website that once extolled the “power of diversity” and championed “building a culture of inclusivity” now testifies to the “power of pluralism” and “a culture of mutual respect.”...It remains unclear to what extent the changes represent a surface-level rebranding or a structural overhaul.
Does it though?
Posted by: garrett
Once you accept that the only reason for failure is racism, then standards are just an arcane relic. That's why universities fight so hard to avoid getting rid of DEI.
https://is.gd/lYhw05
Harvard Grad Schools Rebrand Diversity Offices as University Wipes DEI Messaging
So far, the rebranding has largely happened without layoffs of top staff and with the promise of replacement programs. But details on Harvard’s new approach have remained scant, and little has been communicated to students and faculty...But the removal of DEI language has coincided with its replacement by language on pluralism, dialogue, and ideological diversity...Other changes were made quietly. An HSPH website that once extolled the “power of diversity” and championed “building a culture of inclusivity” now testifies to the “power of pluralism” and “a culture of mutual respect.”...It remains unclear to what extent the changes represent a surface-level rebranding or a structural overhaul.
Does it though?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (Riz8t)
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Is it Johnny's fault? OH, NOOOOO!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (vd6bO)
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When you're taught from birth there is no such thing as consequences, nor wrong answers, only "your truth" then, yeah, it's not necessarily Johnny's fault.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (vd6bO)
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When you're taught from birth there is no such thing as consequences, nor wrong answers, only "your truth" then, yeah, it's not necessarily Johnny's fault.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (tT6L1)
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44 Propaganda to get H1-Bs in full...
Trust me, I've seen the hiring process this year for the capable kids. MAKE industry hire them 1st before ever thinking about one visa for any American job.
AKA - you want American security and resources for your business. Hire Americans.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (tOcjL)
I agree completely. I see equally (if not more) incompetent people from India getting jobs from their cousins in big tech or whatever, while Americans are just left with $150k in debt and their dick in their hand, working at Starbucks and becoming nihilistic because they can't land a good job.
Yes, the colleges are partially to blame. As is K-12 education. And the parents. And the govt being involved in student loans. But ultimately, we need to fix this problem ASAP or that's kind of the end of the civilization / culture.
Companies should not be able to side step hiring all of these American kids by hiring semi-slave labor of either legal or illegal status.
Trust me, I've seen the hiring process this year for the capable kids. MAKE industry hire them 1st before ever thinking about one visa for any American job.
AKA - you want American security and resources for your business. Hire Americans.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (tOcjL)
I agree completely. I see equally (if not more) incompetent people from India getting jobs from their cousins in big tech or whatever, while Americans are just left with $150k in debt and their dick in their hand, working at Starbucks and becoming nihilistic because they can't land a good job.
Yes, the colleges are partially to blame. As is K-12 education. And the parents. And the govt being involved in student loans. But ultimately, we need to fix this problem ASAP or that's kind of the end of the civilization / culture.
Companies should not be able to side step hiring all of these American kids by hiring semi-slave labor of either legal or illegal status.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (uCjyK)
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When TRUTH becomes a liability -- ALL PEOPLE BECOME THE ENEMY.
Is it a Client List, or List of Clients? is it a man-crab? or a crab-man? The horror, the Horror, the HORROR!
Just as the NO Kings agitators were wiped out by the Iran Strike, so too will these... forWAR'd !!! what could possibly go wrong?
Is it a Client List, or List of Clients? is it a man-crab? or a crab-man? The horror, the Horror, the HORROR!
Just as the NO Kings agitators were wiped out by the Iran Strike, so too will these... forWAR'd !!! what could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (zVn8g)
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I had an interview with P&G for a lab tech position back in the 80s. The interviewer gave me an osmotic pressure problem to solve on the spot. I did not get the job.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (p16cu)
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that UConn chick seemed deeply stupid
well at least she had some modicum of self awareness but damn
should not be in college
well at least she had some modicum of self awareness but damn
should not be in college
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
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On a recent Tech Thread, it was noticed that AI functions best in environments where A) no one has the necessary expertise in a particular field and B) no one cares about the outcome.
So, government work.
There is an argument made, generally by left leaning technocrats, that we don't need everyone to work any more, and therefore the government should hire people that can't really work anywhere else.
And the most immediate problem with this is that when you overstaff government those employees going looking for things to do which generally means impede everyone else's ability to work.
TBH if we sent 50% of government workers home and kept paying them to just count the number of birds that fly over their houses each day we would immediately improve the overall economy...
So, government work.
There is an argument made, generally by left leaning technocrats, that we don't need everyone to work any more, and therefore the government should hire people that can't really work anywhere else.
And the most immediate problem with this is that when you overstaff government those employees going looking for things to do which generally means impede everyone else's ability to work.
TBH if we sent 50% of government workers home and kept paying them to just count the number of birds that fly over their houses each day we would immediately improve the overall economy...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (t0Rmr)
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Here's an exercise most modern day grads couldn't pull off.
Teacher: "Use these four words in a sentence... Detail, deduct, defense, defeat."
Muldoon: "De feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail!"
Teacher: "Use these four words in a sentence... Detail, deduct, defense, defeat."
Muldoon: "De feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (poXs5)
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I know this is anecdotal and my experiences do not define general reality, but every manager and supervisor I have seen, talked to, and read says that its brutal trying to hire modern young people because they have no work ethic, no drive, no ambition, and quit for the dumbest vapid reasons without pattern or notification.
You'll hire the most clean and sane looking kid you can to fill a role, and they do the minimum work, spend as much time slacking and on the phone as they can get away with, and suddenly after a couple days just don't show up because they weren't feeling it any more or decided they wanted to play Call of Duty that day, or just decided they didn't want to be a "wage slave."
You'll hire the most clean and sane looking kid you can to fill a role, and they do the minimum work, spend as much time slacking and on the phone as they can get away with, and suddenly after a couple days just don't show up because they weren't feeling it any more or decided they wanted to play Call of Duty that day, or just decided they didn't want to be a "wage slave."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
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On top of a lousy ed system, the internet and social media have given younger generations the attention span of a gnat. Sitting and enjoying reading a good novel or history is almost impossible.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 01:41 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Here's an exercise most modern day grads couldn't pull off.
Teacher: "Use these four words in a sentence... Detail, deduct, defense, defeat."
Muldoon: "De feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (poXs5)
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Thank you Doctor! That was the perfect prescription for my afternoon.
Teacher: "Use these four words in a sentence... Detail, deduct, defense, defeat."
Muldoon: "De feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (poXs5)
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Thank you Doctor! That was the perfect prescription for my afternoon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (96KLw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (2GCMq)
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Organizations heavily staffed by women are incompetent and failing. How can that be?
I've been working in the corporate world for a long time now and what my female peers tell me on a regular basis:
1) It is only sexism that stops them from getting promoted to management
2) Working for a woman sucks.
In my own personal experience I've had more good male managers then female, but I've had good female managers as well.
I've been working in the corporate world for a long time now and what my female peers tell me on a regular basis:
1) It is only sexism that stops them from getting promoted to management
2) Working for a woman sucks.
In my own personal experience I've had more good male managers then female, but I've had good female managers as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (t0Rmr)
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The future's pretty bleak when you consider there will likely be nobody who can repair or maintain the technology and infrastructure in modern society.
We're kind of at that point today. We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on. Almost nobody actually knows how things they use every day work any more.
We're kind of at that point today. We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on. Almost nobody actually knows how things they use every day work any more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (dfIr7)
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I consider myself a failure as a husband and a father. But both my kids are grown, paying their own way, no debt, first son's a homeowner at 25, and they both read books for pleasure.
I could maybe give myself a break.
I could maybe give myself a break.
Posted by: Bombadil at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (MX0bI)
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I wonder, how will the Left blame Trump for this? They will blame Trump; the only question is what BS reason(s) they'll use.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (aBgBM)
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Perhaps if we emphasized development of personal virtues like the ones that have been made fun of for the last too-many decades, like Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent (He's a regular Boy Scout!)...perhaps add conscientious and industrious in there? Then you get better students of everything that matters. It ain't just the institutions, but what we demand of them.
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent (He's a regular Boy Scout!)...perhaps add conscientious and industrious in there? Then you get better students of everything that matters. It ain't just the institutions, but what we demand of them.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (vd6bO)
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...osmotic pressure problem...
********
Is that when Marie manipulated Donnie into singing a medley that he didn't want to sing?
********
Is that when Marie manipulated Donnie into singing a medley that he didn't want to sing?
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (poXs5)
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GenZ/forWAR'd the obvious solution?
Since businesses can't use them, and will soon collapse anyway, draft to be re-instituted... sans the trans and all the other deviants, who will be left to rot in their tasteless and primitive worlds....
Since businesses can't use them, and will soon collapse anyway, draft to be re-instituted... sans the trans and all the other deviants, who will be left to rot in their tasteless and primitive worlds....
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (zVn8g)
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"Students" these days learn absolutely nothing, and their brains are fried by social media and AI.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
They were fried by marxist indoctrinators first. And those very "educators" would love to blame AI and social media for their own inability and unwillingness to teach anything beyond perversion, division and agenda. BIRM
Because if you teach someone something, they become a potential danger to the cause. And the cause is all there is.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
They were fried by marxist indoctrinators first. And those very "educators" would love to blame AI and social media for their own inability and unwillingness to teach anything beyond perversion, division and agenda. BIRM
Because if you teach someone something, they become a potential danger to the cause. And the cause is all there is.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (Qr870)
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Then charge up the incentives. Pay lower base salaries, and create more performance-related bonuses (model: waiters' wages vs tips). You want better pay, you've gotta show results.
Also, reinstate kid treatment like punching a clock, and combine it with new wage structures. One wage for a 40-hour week, another wage for less.
Gotta get creative on this. Moaning about our lot and yelling at slack-asses won't fix it.
Then charge up the incentives. Pay lower base salaries, and create more performance-related bonuses (model: waiters' wages vs tips). You want better pay, you've gotta show results.
Also, reinstate kid treatment like punching a clock, and combine it with new wage structures. One wage for a 40-hour week, another wage for less.
Gotta get creative on this. Moaning about our lot and yelling at slack-asses won't fix it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (xp7+v)
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56 Well, I don't know who corporate America is hiring then; i just retired with 27 years of military and law enforcement service and can't get a goddam interview.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
I see that all the time, too.
People who are smart and highly qualified working jobs they are way overqualified for, while the high paying corporate jobs are increasingly full of DEI hires and third world immigrants. Then those DEI hires and third world immigrants take over the HR departments of those companies and the cycle intensifies.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
I see that all the time, too.
People who are smart and highly qualified working jobs they are way overqualified for, while the high paying corporate jobs are increasingly full of DEI hires and third world immigrants. Then those DEI hires and third world immigrants take over the HR departments of those companies and the cycle intensifies.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (uCjyK)
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Kids just need to get 100% on the Woke Talking Points test, and they'll pass with flying colors. (but no real education)
Posted by: illiniwek at July 14, 2025 01:44 PM (vbXSk)
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We're kind of at that point today. We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on. Almost nobody actually knows how things they use every day work any more.
This is a side effect of the fact we've become wealthy enough to just throw stuff away.
When I was young I remember fixing mechanical devices around my house, now I either hire someone or buy a new one.
This is a side effect of the fact we've become wealthy enough to just throw stuff away.
When I was young I remember fixing mechanical devices around my house, now I either hire someone or buy a new one.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:44 PM (t0Rmr)
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>>We're kind of at that point today. We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on.
Or, it was designed to keep anyone but a high paid tech to work on it.
Or, it was designed to keep anyone but a high paid tech to work on it.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:44 PM (Bi+MU)
Posted by: Gavin Newsome at the Glass House Farm at July 14, 2025 01:44 PM (Riz8t)
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You'll hire the most clean and sane looking kid you can to fill a role, and they do the minimum work, spend as much time slacking and on the phone as they can get away with, and suddenly after a couple days just don't show up because they weren't feeling it any more or decided they wanted to play Call of Duty that day, or just decided they didn't want to be a "wage slave."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Knew a guy way back when who ran a successful chain of stores. He told me he always, when someone was short, would front them the money going into a weekend, knowing full well they wouldn't show up to work the following Monday, thus, giving him grounds to fire the employee. (these were employees he wanted to get rid of and they always obliged) Said it saved him a ton of money in the long run.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Knew a guy way back when who ran a successful chain of stores. He told me he always, when someone was short, would front them the money going into a weekend, knowing full well they wouldn't show up to work the following Monday, thus, giving him grounds to fire the employee. (these were employees he wanted to get rid of and they always obliged) Said it saved him a ton of money in the long run.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:45 PM (tT6L1)
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Is this about me?
Posted by: Person moaning about our lot and yelling at slack-asses at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (bcy1V)
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When I was young I remember fixing mechanical devices around my house, now I either hire someone or buy a new one.
Look around and see how many devices are still purely mechanical. Probably not all that many. Most have embedded electronic controllers at a minimum.
Look around and see how many devices are still purely mechanical. Probably not all that many. Most have embedded electronic controllers at a minimum.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (/y8xj)
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ok so when I graduated (from a private catholic HS!) about half of us went to college, that's all. and pretty much everyone was smart, at least smart-ish.
many got married, some worked in family business, some went to professional schools (it was a girls' school). but by no means was it expected that we all would go to college, not that it wasn't an option, but it wasn't PUSHED for 100 percent of college graduates like now.
and I think that percentage (50%) is too high. the first video had it right. it's for a) the very smart and b) the very studious
college is meaningless now, and pretty useless too, just because EVERYONE goes, no matter how much they try to do everything right they will need to cull down to appropriate college students or it won't work!
many got married, some worked in family business, some went to professional schools (it was a girls' school). but by no means was it expected that we all would go to college, not that it wasn't an option, but it wasn't PUSHED for 100 percent of college graduates like now.
and I think that percentage (50%) is too high. the first video had it right. it's for a) the very smart and b) the very studious
college is meaningless now, and pretty useless too, just because EVERYONE goes, no matter how much they try to do everything right they will need to cull down to appropriate college students or it won't work!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg)
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should not be in college
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
Where should she be
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
Where should she be
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (Qr870)
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anyone who attempts to instruct you to wear a festive little hat the right way is a racist who doesn't understand.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (u5DUI)
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On top of a lousy ed system, the internet and social media have given younger generations the attention span of a gnat. Sitting and enjoying reading a good novel or history is almost impossible.
I haven't seen an official term or word for it, but this is functional illiteracy. If you can make out signs and small notes, but are unable to read anything deeper or longer there's not much different between that and illiteracy.
I mean, I don't speak Spanish but I can work out what a sign says most of the time.
I haven't seen an official term or word for it, but this is functional illiteracy. If you can make out signs and small notes, but are unable to read anything deeper or longer there's not much different between that and illiteracy.
I mean, I don't speak Spanish but I can work out what a sign says most of the time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (dfIr7)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
Do that many young people actually quit fairly quickly?
Do that many young people actually quit fairly quickly?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (2GCMq)
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This entire article, ok I didn't read but the first part but stil, IS SO TRIGGERING TO ME. I can't even. I'm going go lie down now...
Posted by: Hampster Girl at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (PiwSw)
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MeToo Instructor: "Can anyone give me a sentence using 'harassment'?"
Employee: "I miss this girl I was dating. Her ass meant a lot to me."
Employee: "I miss this girl I was dating. Her ass meant a lot to me."
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (iFTx/)
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"It's changed expectations about what's worthy of attention," Daniel Willingham, a psychologist at UVA, told me. "Being bored has become unnatural."
I have said this same basic thing for at least two decades now: Kids need to learn about boredom, and how to handle it When I was a kid:
- I had to learn my my addition, subtraction, multiplication and division by repetition.
- I had long summers filled with... nothing. Nothing but what my friends and I could come up with to entertain ourselves.
- I had cartoons on Saturday morning and for an hour right after school (and a few specials during Christmas).
- I read the paper every day.
- I had chores to do.
Learning how to deal with the dull parts of life helps you appreciate the truly fun parts a helluva lot more. It also teaches you patience and discipline.
I also wonder how much all the psychological drugs they are prescribing kids and teenagers has to do with this.
I have said this same basic thing for at least two decades now: Kids need to learn about boredom, and how to handle it When I was a kid:
- I had to learn my my addition, subtraction, multiplication and division by repetition.
- I had long summers filled with... nothing. Nothing but what my friends and I could come up with to entertain ourselves.
- I had cartoons on Saturday morning and for an hour right after school (and a few specials during Christmas).
- I read the paper every day.
- I had chores to do.
Learning how to deal with the dull parts of life helps you appreciate the truly fun parts a helluva lot more. It also teaches you patience and discipline.
I also wonder how much all the psychological drugs they are prescribing kids and teenagers has to do with this.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (wtvvX)
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College really should just be for people serious about pursuing a small number of careers that really do need extra training.
Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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Look around and see how many devices are still purely mechanical. Probably not all that many. Most have embedded electronic controllers at a minimum.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (/y8xj)
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But, some of those circuit boards aren't all that expensive and fairly easy to replace. I had a small refrigerator at work the board went out on. Found the replacement, pulled the old one, soldered in the new and went on my way.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (/y8xj)
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But, some of those circuit boards aren't all that expensive and fairly easy to replace. I had a small refrigerator at work the board went out on. Found the replacement, pulled the old one, soldered in the new and went on my way.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: OnlyFans at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (bcy1V)
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What needs to happen is the repeal of Duke Power vs Griggs. Let companies test their own candidates. They at least have a focused objective target they are looking for. Much fairer than Affirmative Action carve outs.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (W3T6M)
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Caught a meme this morning about ...
Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (RHGPo)
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college is meaningless now, and pretty useless too, just because EVERYONE goes, no matter how much they try to do everything right they will need to cull down to appropriate college students or it won't work!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg)
In my social circle, pretty much everyone has at least one advanced degree.
I'm not hanging out with particularly smart people.
This push to get more and more degrees is not healthy for a society either. "You'll stand out if you get an MBA. You'll have a much better chance at getting a promotion!" 2 years of night school and tens of thousands of dollars later, you're still in the same job with a worthless piece of paper that doesn't prove anything in 2025. Maybe in 1985 it meant something, but now it's just an "oh, that's interesting" conversation piece.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg)
In my social circle, pretty much everyone has at least one advanced degree.
I'm not hanging out with particularly smart people.
This push to get more and more degrees is not healthy for a society either. "You'll stand out if you get an MBA. You'll have a much better chance at getting a promotion!" 2 years of night school and tens of thousands of dollars later, you're still in the same job with a worthless piece of paper that doesn't prove anything in 2025. Maybe in 1985 it meant something, but now it's just an "oh, that's interesting" conversation piece.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The collapse of American education is actually the biggest story of the modern era.
Education became about the 'educators' rather than the students. Governments decided that youths had to spend more years in schools, theoretically gaining more knowledge, but for what? So that everyone could become a doctor or engineer? So the kids zone out, more non-scholastic crap fills the day, grades are inflated because the teachers don't want to admit that your tax dollars are being pissed away on daycare and on and on and on.
Meanwhile, the kids are told that they're exceptional, that the only reason they're not brazilianaires yet is because of an -ism... unless you're a heterosexual, white, male in which case - die already.
Education became about the 'educators' rather than the students. Governments decided that youths had to spend more years in schools, theoretically gaining more knowledge, but for what? So that everyone could become a doctor or engineer? So the kids zone out, more non-scholastic crap fills the day, grades are inflated because the teachers don't want to admit that your tax dollars are being pissed away on daycare and on and on and on.
Meanwhile, the kids are told that they're exceptional, that the only reason they're not brazilianaires yet is because of an -ism... unless you're a heterosexual, white, male in which case - die already.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)
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This is a side effect of the fact we've become wealthy enough to just throw stuff away.
That does play a part, but I used to be able to fix electronic equipment because I could work on the wiring and solder things. Now the circuitry requires a microscope to even see, and the wires are finer than mouse pubes.
That does play a part, but I used to be able to fix electronic equipment because I could work on the wiring and solder things. Now the circuitry requires a microscope to even see, and the wires are finer than mouse pubes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (dfIr7)
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Those two facts alone put me far, far in front of any competition for my position and for promotions, should I seek them.
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Yours is the exception.
I'm hearing a lot about how the youngers are firing GenX, for example, merely because they are a bigger labor expense and they don't "vibe."
As Adam Smith said, there's a lot of ruin in a nation.
There is also a lot of ruin in a corporation.
They'll ruin you and the corporation before they give up their ideology.
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Yours is the exception.
I'm hearing a lot about how the youngers are firing GenX, for example, merely because they are a bigger labor expense and they don't "vibe."
As Adam Smith said, there's a lot of ruin in a nation.
There is also a lot of ruin in a corporation.
They'll ruin you and the corporation before they give up their ideology.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (JThEY)
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Ok, since our educational systems have been failing for years, let's let our country fall behind because we can't find any qualified people.
Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
Let's just send all our remaining business overseas.
Yay America!!!
Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
Let's just send all our remaining business overseas.
Yay America!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (QB+5g)
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Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (RHGPo)
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I remember reading an article years ago which mentioned college degrees had become a 5 year process, because the first year was spent on remedial English, math, etc.
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (RHGPo)
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I remember reading an article years ago which mentioned college degrees had become a 5 year process, because the first year was spent on remedial English, math, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (tT6L1)
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>>- I had cartoons on Saturday morning and for an hour right after school (and a few specials during Christmas).
For every 3 hours of reading we did as kids, we got to watch 30 minutes of TV (Read: Muppet Show!).
For every 3 hours of reading we did as kids, we got to watch 30 minutes of TV (Read: Muppet Show!).
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (Bi+MU)
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109 Meanwhile, the kids are told that they're exceptional, that the only reason they're not brazilianaires yet is because of an -ism... unless you're a heterosexual, white, male in which case - die already.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)
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Also, buy Ryan Trahan's candy as he becomes rich doing YouTube videos.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)
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Also, buy Ryan Trahan's candy as he becomes rich doing YouTube videos.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
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But, some of those circuit boards aren't all that expensive and fairly easy to replace. I had a small refrigerator at work the board went out on. Found the replacement, pulled the old one, soldered in the new and went on my way.
Here's a recent example of how complex this gets...
My stove has a push button set of controls. The board that controls this partially died so I can't hit the 1/4/7 buttons. I could replace it...but the company doesn't make that board any more.
But, some of those circuit boards aren't all that expensive and fairly easy to replace. I had a small refrigerator at work the board went out on. Found the replacement, pulled the old one, soldered in the new and went on my way.
Here's a recent example of how complex this gets...
My stove has a push button set of controls. The board that controls this partially died so I can't hit the 1/4/7 buttons. I could replace it...but the company doesn't make that board any more.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)
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I grew up in the 80s and it turns out 3/4 of my teachers were marxist faggots. What is that number now? Of course kids aren't "learning". It has nothing to do with parenting or social media. They are given no reason to learn. They are taught merely to parrot the platitudes of godlessness.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (Qr870)
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People who are writing movies now have never read books , I'm sure of it.
Not trying to make this a movie thread just saying...that shittiness translates to everything.
Not trying to make this a movie thread just saying...that shittiness translates to everything.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (fV+MH)
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Do that many young people actually quit fairly quickly?
I don't know, all I can say is what I have been told by managers and read by them online. And the worst part is that so many of the people looking for work look like Juggalos that they have no choice. Yes, that girl with the face tats and purple hair is the hostess now because you had nobody else to take the job.
I don't know, all I can say is what I have been told by managers and read by them online. And the worst part is that so many of the people looking for work look like Juggalos that they have no choice. Yes, that girl with the face tats and purple hair is the hostess now because you had nobody else to take the job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (dfIr7)
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Everyone infected with woke is also infected by the comorbidity of believing that all criticism/direction from your boss is a racial or sexual aggression, and that you're perfect the way you are, and that anyone who attempts to instruct you to do the job the right way is a racist who doesn't understand your Different Ways of Knowing.
There is only three ways to solve any problem.
1. The right way.
2. The wrong way.
And
3. The person who signs your paycheck's way.
There is only three ways to solve any problem.
1. The right way.
2. The wrong way.
And
3. The person who signs your paycheck's way.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (+bLMA)
Posted by: Don't want to know at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (bcy1V)
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>>That does play a part, but I used to be able to fix electronic equipment because I could work on the wiring and solder things. Now the circuitry requires a microscope to even see, and the wires are finer than mouse pubes.
Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (Bi+MU)
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Sorry, but I'm calling BIGGUS BULLSHITTUS on that. She seems reasonably articulate and intelligent in the video, and she's from Puerto Rico where English is an official language. I'll bet money this is an op or plea for attention.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
OTOH, she's a brown woman so if she just blew off her classes she'd still get promoted.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
OTOH, she's a brown woman so if she just blew off her classes she'd still get promoted.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (ExV1e)
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Holy smokes, my kids read several books a semester starting in 5th grade. What a bunch of idiots. That being said, when my oldest went to public high school, he said the majority of the class couldnt read and comprehend a paragraph. He said when they had to read a 150 page book for their final, most kids just got chatgpt to summarize and analyze it.
Posted by: mishdog at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (e28+i)
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They are taught merely to parrot the platitudes of godlessness.
Platitudes of Godlessness would be an excellent name for a band playing at Molochfest 2025.
Platitudes of Godlessness would be an excellent name for a band playing at Molochfest 2025.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (Riz8t)
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I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (lIio7)
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I VASTLY prefer books to social media.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
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The "You're perfect the way you are!" movement that's been around since I was a child (at least) is one of the worst things you can tell a person.
It's one thing to tell someone not to hate themselves. That's laudable, as every person has value.
It's quite another to suggest there is no room for improvement. That's dangerous and breeds the mentioned entitlement.
"I just want a woman who loves me for who I am!"
Who you are is a slob. You don't want the kind of woman who would love a slob. Clean yourself up, lift some weights, LOSE some weight and present a better version of yourself.
(Similar advice to the women who say the same thing.)
It's one thing to tell someone not to hate themselves. That's laudable, as every person has value.
It's quite another to suggest there is no room for improvement. That's dangerous and breeds the mentioned entitlement.
"I just want a woman who loves me for who I am!"
Who you are is a slob. You don't want the kind of woman who would love a slob. Clean yourself up, lift some weights, LOSE some weight and present a better version of yourself.
(Similar advice to the women who say the same thing.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (N1DT3)
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DEI will not go away until all women are fired from HR.
Having a man like Mr. Sheldrake in charge of Personnel was no picnic, it turned out. Miss Kubelik nearly died in my apartment as a result of his philandering.
Having a man like Mr. Sheldrake in charge of Personnel was no picnic, it turned out. Miss Kubelik nearly died in my apartment as a result of his philandering.
Posted by: C.C. Baxter, Consolidated Life, 19th floor, Ordinary Policy Dept., Premium Accounting at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (wVcYX)
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126 I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (lIio7)
congrats man
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (lIio7)
congrats man
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
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Thanks, Mark!
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (lIio7)
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People who are writing movies now have never read books , I'm sure of it.
Converting books into movies was an old easy standby for Hollywood.
I think while the Hollywood types do occasionally read books still, they only read a narrow subset of woke, gay crap, so there are many, many good books that could easily become good movies that just aren't going to be made by Hollywood
Converting books into movies was an old easy standby for Hollywood.
I think while the Hollywood types do occasionally read books still, they only read a narrow subset of woke, gay crap, so there are many, many good books that could easily become good movies that just aren't going to be made by Hollywood
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (t0Rmr)
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Ok, since our educational systems have been failing for years, let's let our country fall behind because we can't find any qualified people.
Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
Let's just send all our remaining business overseas.
Yay America!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (QB+5g)
There are 300+ million people living in this country legally right now.
I don't think the problem is a sheer lack of brainpower. And if it is, let's just wrap it up and call it a day at this point.
It requires an IQ of like 105 to do entry level coding at big tech. They're hiring foreigners with even more dubious educational backgrounds and a weak grasp on the english language to do those jobs. I'm pretty sure they can find qualified people at pretty much every high school or college in America.
But sure, let's just outsource our blue collar jobs to illegals from central america and our white collar jobs to immigrants from India and China. And the Americans can just work in service industry jobs like being baristas.
That sounds like a viable solution to keeping an economy and country running.
Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
Let's just send all our remaining business overseas.
Yay America!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (QB+5g)
There are 300+ million people living in this country legally right now.
I don't think the problem is a sheer lack of brainpower. And if it is, let's just wrap it up and call it a day at this point.
It requires an IQ of like 105 to do entry level coding at big tech. They're hiring foreigners with even more dubious educational backgrounds and a weak grasp on the english language to do those jobs. I'm pretty sure they can find qualified people at pretty much every high school or college in America.
But sure, let's just outsource our blue collar jobs to illegals from central america and our white collar jobs to immigrants from India and China. And the Americans can just work in service industry jobs like being baristas.
That sounds like a viable solution to keeping an economy and country running.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (uCjyK)
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The computer company I was hired by in Michigan had aptitude tests. The HR guy went on and on about how it would the test would determine how well you would be as a programmer.
The test was 40 questions. The questions were similar to those on "The 1% Club."
It was me and a room full of Indians. A very pretty black lady came back and said I was the first person they ever had that scored perfect.
Go white guy!
The test was 40 questions. The questions were similar to those on "The 1% Club."
It was me and a room full of Indians. A very pretty black lady came back and said I was the first person they ever had that scored perfect.
Go white guy!
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 10.11 at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (jvJvP)
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My stove has a push button set of controls. The board that controls this partially died so I can't hit the 1/4/7 buttons. I could replace it...but the company doesn't make that board any more.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)
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As I said, some. And, of course, there is no after market part for your stove, either. Been there and it is frustrating as all get out.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)
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As I said, some. And, of course, there is no after market part for your stove, either. Been there and it is frustrating as all get out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (tT6L1)
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127 I VASTLY prefer books to social media.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
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Reminds me of a bit from The Squid and the Whale.
Jesse Eisenberg dismisses A Tale of Two Cities as "minor Dickens", but it's obvious from the conversation that he'd never read A Tale of Two Cities.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
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Reminds me of a bit from The Squid and the Whale.
Jesse Eisenberg dismisses A Tale of Two Cities as "minor Dickens", but it's obvious from the conversation that he'd never read A Tale of Two Cities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)
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You're not going to learn by copy and pasting from ChatGPT.
But they all made it through college and law school using LLM's and Quimbee and other cheating methods, so here we are.
It's not great.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM (uCjyK)
Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
But they all made it through college and law school using LLM's and Quimbee and other cheating methods, so here we are.
It's not great.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM (uCjyK)
Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
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Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
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omg don't tell me we're having this argument again. How I miss Jay Guevara, the chemistry professor who defended his well-rounded education including his studies of the humanities.
This conservative disdain for "book-larnin'" is stupid and misguided. The same people who rhyme "arts" with "farts" are the ones who complain that movies are just stupid cartoons anymore and music is a bunch of noise.
The fact that a lot of humanities departments have been corrupted is a separate matter.
Reading recommendation: The Best Minds, by Jonathan Rosen.
Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1
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omg don't tell me we're having this argument again. How I miss Jay Guevara, the chemistry professor who defended his well-rounded education including his studies of the humanities.
This conservative disdain for "book-larnin'" is stupid and misguided. The same people who rhyme "arts" with "farts" are the ones who complain that movies are just stupid cartoons anymore and music is a bunch of noise.
The fact that a lot of humanities departments have been corrupted is a separate matter.
Reading recommendation: The Best Minds, by Jonathan Rosen.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (xp7+v)
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127 I VASTLY prefer books to social media.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
*fistbump*
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
*fistbump*
Posted by: The Unofficial AoSHQ Bleak House Fan Club at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (PiwSw)
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Pray tell, what books are kids being asked to read...?
Faggot Shitass and the White Oppressor of Hate
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
Faggot Shitass and the White Oppressor of Hate
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (Qr870)
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Hare. Hunter. Field.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (63Dwl)
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Who "fixes" smart phones anymore? If it stops working, in some manner, shape or form does it really get "repaired?" Or is your SIM card just inserted into a cloned copy of your old phone?
7 or 8 years ago my wife dropped her cell phone and the screen cracked. It still (sort of) worked, but you could only access certain apps that weren't on the broken part of the screen. The solution, as I alluded to above. New, cloned phone. (Under warranty, but I can imagine what that would cost if not.)
That's only one example of this "throw away" society we're in. What do we do when you can't throw it away because it's the only one you've got and there ain't no more of... whatever?
The education issues and work ethics are a whole different issue, but I think one dovetails into the other.
7 or 8 years ago my wife dropped her cell phone and the screen cracked. It still (sort of) worked, but you could only access certain apps that weren't on the broken part of the screen. The solution, as I alluded to above. New, cloned phone. (Under warranty, but I can imagine what that would cost if not.)
That's only one example of this "throw away" society we're in. What do we do when you can't throw it away because it's the only one you've got and there ain't no more of... whatever?
The education issues and work ethics are a whole different issue, but I think one dovetails into the other.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (Q4IgG)
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Jesse Eisenberg dismisses A Tale of Two Cities as "minor Dickens", but it's obvious from the conversation that he'd never read A Tale of Two Cities.
I prefer to read the literary criticism instead.
I prefer to read the literary criticism instead.
Posted by: GuyFromMetropolitan at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (wBaIH)
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I was at a friend's house the other day. He's a big Green Bay Packers fan so I didn't think much of it when he walked over to the window and yelled, "Green goes up!!" He did it again about every five minutes and I finally asked, "Hey, what's with yelling 'Green goes up'? "
He said, "Oh, I've got a college grad laying sod in the back yard."
He said, "Oh, I've got a college grad laying sod in the back yard."
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (poXs5)
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I had a fellow employee that was moving from Boston to Philadelphia, so he was looking for a house. Somebody suggested that he join the cocktail circuit and talk to people from the various areas around Philadelphia.
The first thing he found out ... every child on the "Main Line" of Philadelphia (the western suburbs along the train line) were "gifted". The parents would tell him so. I even ran into a old high school buddy then living on the "Mainline" who told me the same.
He figured his kids were smart but not "gifted" so he got a house in the far western suburb of West Chester.
The first thing he found out ... every child on the "Main Line" of Philadelphia (the western suburbs along the train line) were "gifted". The parents would tell him so. I even ran into a old high school buddy then living on the "Mainline" who told me the same.
He figured his kids were smart but not "gifted" so he got a house in the far western suburb of West Chester.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (RHGPo)
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Jesse Eisenberg dismisses A Tale of Two Cities as "minor Dickens", but it's obvious from the conversation that he'd never read A Tale of Two Cities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)
Which would have been a primary source
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)
Which would have been a primary source
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (Qr870)
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Harry Paratestes
A silo model to shield a new corporation may work. Be very careful who you let in the door, and have a fast off-ramp.
How does Singapore do it?
A silo model to shield a new corporation may work. Be very careful who you let in the door, and have a fast off-ramp.
How does Singapore do it?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (u82oZ)
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I prefer to read the literary criticism instead.
Posted by: GuyFromMetropolitan at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Would it surprise you to know that I own that movie?
I prefer to read the literary criticism instead.
Posted by: GuyFromMetropolitan at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Would it surprise you to know that I own that movie?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
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Honestly, I would tell any hungry reader to never read Ethan Frome. Just don't do it.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (W3T6M)
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[]"I just want a woman who loves me for who I am!"
Who you are is a slob. You don't want the kind of woman who would love a slob. Clean yourself up, lift some weights, LOSE some weight and present a better version of yourself.
Yeah. This. Yes, many modern young women are a disaster but look into the mirror young men. You need to be a better man if you want a better woman.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Despite the name its one of the least depressing of his books too LOL
Who you are is a slob. You don't want the kind of woman who would love a slob. Clean yourself up, lift some weights, LOSE some weight and present a better version of yourself.
Yeah. This. Yes, many modern young women are a disaster but look into the mirror young men. You need to be a better man if you want a better woman.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Despite the name its one of the least depressing of his books too LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (dfIr7)
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>>My stove has a push button set of controls. The board that controls this partially died so I can't hit the 1/4/7 buttons. I could replace it...but the company doesn't make that board any more.
My Suburban blew a heater Hose this weekend while I was driving down the road.
I could not repair it because someone decided that Hose Clamps are obsolete and designed a 'Quick Fitting' that can not be removed without a proprietary tool.
The other end of the same fucking hose has a clamp on it. But...you aren't fixing it on the side of the road, anymore.
Because Fuck You.
My Suburban blew a heater Hose this weekend while I was driving down the road.
I could not repair it because someone decided that Hose Clamps are obsolete and designed a 'Quick Fitting' that can not be removed without a proprietary tool.
The other end of the same fucking hose has a clamp on it. But...you aren't fixing it on the side of the road, anymore.
Because Fuck You.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (Bi+MU)
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Wasn't there a fairly recent thread about some states bringing back apprenticeships?
Indiana or Iowa, can't recall.
Indiana or Iowa, can't recall.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (Ch4Qk)
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Faggot Shitass and the White Oppressor of Hate
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
+++
What about me?
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
+++
What about me?
Posted by: Chester The Molester at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (bcy1V)
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I got my BS in '79.
Starting college, I took the CLEP tests. If those were truly indicative of 1st year college courses, it was worthless even then.
Didn't learn squat until the 300 and 400 level courses... all applied to my degree.
Starting college, I took the CLEP tests. If those were truly indicative of 1st year college courses, it was worthless even then.
Didn't learn squat until the 300 and 400 level courses... all applied to my degree.
Posted by: MkY at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (cPGH3)
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Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
Oh, I know. Trust me, I know.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
Oh, I know. Trust me, I know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (uCjyK)
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the quality of the books assigned in US schools of late is a whole other topic
atrocious
thankfully we supplemented with REAL books at home
atrocious
thankfully we supplemented with REAL books at home
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Real Mike Rowe
@mikeroweworks
My first two words on this particular Sunday morning were "Hallelujah!” followed by, “Amen!” ...
[Pull Quote:] If you haven’t already heard, a massive challenge is upon us. With regard to artificial intelligence and the energy we need to feed it, America will either change its current direction, or get left far, far behind. I know this because I run a modest foundation that has been arguing for decades that the portion of our workforce most often described as “the skilled trades,” will become the most essential component of our economy, our independence, and our collective future.
https://is.gd/yeFuQ6
The Real Mike Rowe
@mikeroweworks
My first two words on this particular Sunday morning were "Hallelujah!” followed by, “Amen!” ...
[Pull Quote:] If you haven’t already heard, a massive challenge is upon us. With regard to artificial intelligence and the energy we need to feed it, America will either change its current direction, or get left far, far behind. I know this because I run a modest foundation that has been arguing for decades that the portion of our workforce most often described as “the skilled trades,” will become the most essential component of our economy, our independence, and our collective future.
https://is.gd/yeFuQ6
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (qwZT2)
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I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Nice work!
I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Nice work!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (xp7+v)
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One thing I can say about the Moron Horde:
Based on the books you've recommended on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you guys are among the most intelligent, articulate, well-read bunch of Morons it's been my pleasure to encounter on a weekly basis.
Based on the books you've recommended on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you guys are among the most intelligent, articulate, well-read bunch of Morons it's been my pleasure to encounter on a weekly basis.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (7fElN)
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Would it surprise you to know that I own that movie?
it would not! it's an amazing film!
love it so
it would not! it's an amazing film!
love it so
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Who "fixes" smart phones anymore? If it stops working, in some manner, shape or form does it really get "repaired?" Or is your SIM card just inserted into a cloned copy of your old phone?
You cant really fix a phone but you can swap out components to make it work right again, which is a sort of repair.
You cant really fix a phone but you can swap out components to make it work right again, which is a sort of repair.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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Man at least in our day we went to class and had AI take notes for us while we physically scrolled Tik Tok.
These kids today just have their robot assistants remotely log in to classes and summarize everything while beaming directly into their brains without leaving bed. Ridiculous
.
These kids today just have their robot assistants remotely log in to classes and summarize everything while beaming directly into their brains without leaving bed. Ridiculous
.
Posted by: Zoomers in 20 years at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (A1Mmr)
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Repair Clinic Dot Com
Posted by: The truth is out there at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (bcy1V)
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"We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on."
Well the cellphone industry is what drove the technology to make things smaller and near disposable. Most of the real costs associated with a lot electronic goods these days is in software.
The cell phone is/was the pretty much the driver of the speed of the digital revolution.
Well the cellphone industry is what drove the technology to make things smaller and near disposable. Most of the real costs associated with a lot electronic goods these days is in software.
The cell phone is/was the pretty much the driver of the speed of the digital revolution.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (QB+5g)
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> Who "fixes" smart phones anymore? If it stops working, in some manner, shape or form does it really get "repaired?" Or is your SIM card just inserted into a cloned copy of your old phone?
I've bought iFixit kits for both phones and tablets. One could argue I didn't really "fix" anything, I just changed out a couple of modules. Things like batteries, cameras, and screens.
I've bought iFixit kits for both phones and tablets. One could argue I didn't really "fix" anything, I just changed out a couple of modules. Things like batteries, cameras, and screens.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (lIio7)
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161 Would it surprise you to know that I own that movie?
it would not! it's an amazing film!
love it so
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Whit Stillman trilogy from Criterion, including Barcelona and The Last Days of Disco.
it would not! it's an amazing film!
love it so
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Whit Stillman trilogy from Criterion, including Barcelona and The Last Days of Disco.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)
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The other end of the same fucking hose has a clamp on it. But...you aren't fixing it on the side of the road, anymore./i]
That's intentional. They want you going to the dealer's official Car Company™ garage, not doing it yourself in the driveway, teaching your kid.
That's intentional. They want you going to the dealer's official Car Company™ garage, not doing it yourself in the driveway, teaching your kid.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (dfIr7)
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The solution, as I alluded to above. New, cloned phone. (Under warranty, but I can imagine what that would cost if not.)
Phone screens can be replaced and it's not terribly expensive compared to a new phone but it's still not a DYI job for most of us. You have to take it to that Indian dude at the mall kiosk.
Phone screens can be replaced and it's not terribly expensive compared to a new phone but it's still not a DYI job for most of us. You have to take it to that Indian dude at the mall kiosk.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (/y8xj)
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By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Despite the name its one of the least depressing of his books too LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, the title was one reason it didn't make the cut earlier.
It's really good, and is rather stern with the English Legal system too.
Despite the name its one of the least depressing of his books too LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, the title was one reason it didn't make the cut earlier.
It's really good, and is rather stern with the English Legal system too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (xcxpd)
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I saw Van Helsing last night. Saw it 20 years ago and forgot about it. Now I remember why. Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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163 A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
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Blonde Morticia
Or anything by Freeman Dyson. He walked the walk. Even got the Templeton Prize, which was amazing.
Or anything by Freeman Dyson. He walked the walk. Even got the Templeton Prize, which was amazing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (u82oZ)
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"What da fuck is jubilant my feet?"
University sophomore trying to understand lyrics to "The Battle Hymn of the Republic".
University sophomore trying to understand lyrics to "The Battle Hymn of the Republic".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (gm9Sb)
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This conservative disdain for "book-larnin'" is stupid and misguided. The same people who rhyme "arts" with "farts" are the ones who complain that movies are just stupid cartoons anymore and music is a bunch of noise.
I guess I should have been clearer here.
College should exist to produce chemists, or doctors, or nuclear physicists etc. It should not get into things like humanities
Because that stuff SHOULD be taught at the HS level. In detail. As part of a well rounded education.
College is way, way too expensive to spend the time there teaching things not appropriate to whatever degree you are after.
This conservative disdain for "book-larnin'" is stupid and misguided. The same people who rhyme "arts" with "farts" are the ones who complain that movies are just stupid cartoons anymore and music is a bunch of noise.
I guess I should have been clearer here.
College should exist to produce chemists, or doctors, or nuclear physicists etc. It should not get into things like humanities
Because that stuff SHOULD be taught at the HS level. In detail. As part of a well rounded education.
College is way, way too expensive to spend the time there teaching things not appropriate to whatever degree you are after.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (t0Rmr)
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163 A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
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Yes. But most of Dickens' is a slog. He was paid by the number of words he wrote. The stories were intended to be listened to, not read.
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Yes. But most of Dickens' is a slog. He was paid by the number of words he wrote. The stories were intended to be listened to, not read.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (W3T6M)
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This, too, 100%. Companies want the benefits of America while paying the wages of the 3rd world to slaves who can't leave them. We need a new slogan. American First And Always for American Companies.
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If your CEO has an MBA, you are just a big (and growing) number on the expense side of the ledger.
And expense they need to control.
You are never a number on the asset side.
An asset they need to retain.
I, by myself, generated as much revenue last month as an entire team.
I also received a piddling ass 5% "raise" this year.
It's why I don't feel bad being a "time thief" posting here.
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If your CEO has an MBA, you are just a big (and growing) number on the expense side of the ledger.
And expense they need to control.
You are never a number on the asset side.
An asset they need to retain.
I, by myself, generated as much revenue last month as an entire team.
I also received a piddling ass 5% "raise" this year.
It's why I don't feel bad being a "time thief" posting here.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (JThEY)
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172 I saw Van Helsing last night. Saw it 20 years ago and forgot about it. Now I remember why. Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Stephen Sommers was a thing for like 5 minutes.
Van Helsing ended that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Stephen Sommers was a thing for like 5 minutes.
Van Helsing ended that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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The Whit Stillman trilogy from Criterion, including Barcelona and The Last Days of Disco.
I have it as well! Classics
but around xmas they show Metropolitan at various theaters, including BMFI by me, and it's a must-do for the holiday season
I have it as well! Classics
but around xmas they show Metropolitan at various theaters, including BMFI by me, and it's a must-do for the holiday season
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
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We've been "temporarily" doing it for like 40 years.
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We've been "temporarily" doing it for like 40 years.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (zLwRl)
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106 Caught a meme this morning about ...
Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD
It was not uncommon for upper class children in 17th and 18th century England to master Latin, Greek, Hebrew and Middle English by the time they were early teens. Seriously. You were expected to read the Classics, the Old Testament and Chaucer in the orginals in your teens. When you went to Oxford or Cambridge, many classes were taught in Latin.
Compare that to today, when 20-year-olds are illiterate in English.
Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD
It was not uncommon for upper class children in 17th and 18th century England to master Latin, Greek, Hebrew and Middle English by the time they were early teens. Seriously. You were expected to read the Classics, the Old Testament and Chaucer in the orginals in your teens. When you went to Oxford or Cambridge, many classes were taught in Latin.
Compare that to today, when 20-year-olds are illiterate in English.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (pMi6S)
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Professor Squirrel told me there was not a single copy of anything Freeman Dyson wrote in his entire University system. Amazingly sad.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (u82oZ)
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Also I strongly believe the classroom model is outdated and destructive - need a better model, based on older values.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (Ch4Qk)
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A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
Yeah, I find most of Dickens' work to be. He got paid by the word, and it shows. Plus, books from that time period were like a companion you sat down with and enjoyed over time rather than a story you wanted to follow.
Yeah, I find most of Dickens' work to be. He got paid by the word, and it shows. Plus, books from that time period were like a companion you sat down with and enjoyed over time rather than a story you wanted to follow.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (dfIr7)
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126 I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Congrats! That's awesome. Just got back in the gym recently here - slow 'n steady phase.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Congrats! That's awesome. Just got back in the gym recently here - slow 'n steady phase.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (2bFN5)
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I just never got what was so damn special about the book, "The Catcher In The Rye"
I liked books like "The Loved One" by Evelyn Waugh and "The Invisible Man" by Ralph Ellison.
I liked books like "The Loved One" by Evelyn Waugh and "The Invisible Man" by Ralph Ellison.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (RHGPo)
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it is not the schools its the parents.
how do you have somebody that graduated hs and is not literate without shitty parents?
how do you have somebody that graduated hs and is not literate without shitty parents?
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (3GGcJ)
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Good job, bonhomme!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (tT6L1)
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FYI, I just learned about a program building new Catholic High Schools. It's an initiative of the Society of Gilbert Keith Chesterton (a Catholic non-profit apostolate) called the Chesterton Schools Network, and it looks like they are trying to re-establish the classic Catholic education, inspired by G. K. Chesterton.
https://chestertonschoolsnetwork.org/
I pray they succeed.
https://chestertonschoolsnetwork.org/
I pray they succeed.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (wtvvX)
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173 163 A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
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it is not the schools its the parents.
how do you have somebody that graduated hs and is not literate without shitty parents?
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (3GGcJ)
Because schools aren't there to teach subjects anymore they are there to teach leftardism. They want people dumb and it's working.
how do you have somebody that graduated hs and is not literate without shitty parents?
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (3GGcJ)
Because schools aren't there to teach subjects anymore they are there to teach leftardism. They want people dumb and it's working.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (Qr870)
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Those universities take them for the $; make the caring teachers and professors deal with it until they go mad or quit, and allow many of those students to slip into those areas of unique academia & sports where - if they don't stay within those wacky parameters - there will be no other jobs they'll ever handle. (Onto selective therapy and self-care!)
It's been going on since well before C19. "Hope & Change"
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>The Daily Pennsylvanian, ‘Kissing the Trump ring’: Penn faculty condemn University's Title IX settlement, 8 hours ago
It's been going on since well before C19. "Hope & Change"
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>The Daily Pennsylvanian, ‘Kissing the Trump ring’: Penn faculty condemn University's Title IX settlement, 8 hours ago
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (NFX2v)
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Frasier Crane's updating the story of A Tale of Two Cities for the Cheers crowd is about the best we can hope for. "As he climbed aboard the attack helicopter he said "it's a far far....""
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Let's "temporarily" tax income because we want government to do a little more than it does, too. Let's let it "temporarily" borrow money, too, so we don't have to pay too much.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (zLwRl)
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Read a book? Pffft.
The only reason to go to college is to find new people to stick things in your butt!
Read a book? Pffft.
The only reason to go to college is to find new people to stick things in your butt!
Posted by: Peter Bootygig at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (FinQB)
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Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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AI in medicine should significantly improve diagnostics. We're on the brink, bay-bay, and we've got to be careful with this wild new capability.
Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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AI in medicine should significantly improve diagnostics. We're on the brink, bay-bay, and we've got to be careful with this wild new capability.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (xp7+v)
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If your CEO has an MBA, you are just a big (and growing) number on the expense side of the ledger.
And expense they need to control.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (JThEY)
It's not really an MBA thing. It's an efficiency thing. And efficiency is usually good! However, it has been massively corrupted by big investment firms on wall street, by our legal system, and by how CEO's are hired.
In other words, you get a bunch of people whose only goal is showing short term profit without regards to the larger picture, because their personal incentives don't align with the long term incentives of the company.
It's one of those leftist tropes about "late stage capitalism" that is somewhat true. And I don't know if it's fixable. I do know that early stage socialism will absolutely NOT be an improvement.
And expense they need to control.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (JThEY)
It's not really an MBA thing. It's an efficiency thing. And efficiency is usually good! However, it has been massively corrupted by big investment firms on wall street, by our legal system, and by how CEO's are hired.
In other words, you get a bunch of people whose only goal is showing short term profit without regards to the larger picture, because their personal incentives don't align with the long term incentives of the company.
It's one of those leftist tropes about "late stage capitalism" that is somewhat true. And I don't know if it's fixable. I do know that early stage socialism will absolutely NOT be an improvement.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (uCjyK)
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31 I’ve noticed a lot of them seem to be allergic to punctuality as well.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Punctuality is a tool of oppression by cis-het white patriarchal colonizers!!!
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Punctuality is a tool of oppression by cis-het white patriarchal colonizers!!!
Posted by: Young Soy Whites at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (JCZqz)
200
191
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
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My high school history teacher, Mr. Ronald Holmes (who did three tours in Vietnam and was a total badass), told us the story of how, as a child, he went to see Gone with the Wind three times just to hear that line.
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
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My high school history teacher, Mr. Ronald Holmes (who did three tours in Vietnam and was a total badass), told us the story of how, as a child, he went to see Gone with the Wind three times just to hear that line.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
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You'll hire the most clean and sane looking kid you can to fill a role, and they do the minimum work, spend as much time slacking and on the phone as they can get away with, and suddenly after a couple days just don't show up because they weren't feeling it any more or decided they wanted to play Call of Duty that day, or just decided they didn't want to be a "wage slave."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
Follow your dream...
Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life...
You only live once...
Then they decide to become an 'influencer' or OF 'model'.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
Follow your dream...
Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life...
You only live once...
Then they decide to become an 'influencer' or OF 'model'.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (ExV1e)
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Universities were complicit in blowing up student debt beyond all reason.
Now they're upset they're being called to account?
Cry me a river.
Now they're upset they're being called to account?
Cry me a river.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (tT6L1)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
Free Bird !
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
Free Bird !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 14, 2025 02:04 PM (NtVYv)
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An Ivy League prof I know hired some of his post-grad students to put up some siding on his house. We were outside watching the progress of the work. One of the guys would reach into his nail pouch, pull out a nail and drive it in. But the next nail he tossed in the trash bin. This went on for a while until my friend hollered, "Hey, why are you throwing out half the nails?" The kid said, "The points are on the wrong end!"
My professor friend replied, "You dummy! Those are for the other side of the house!"
My professor friend replied, "You dummy! Those are for the other side of the house!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 02:04 PM (poXs5)
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I volunteered at a literacy center. I gave the people that came to it credit because they realized they had missed out on something and were trying to address it.
For the ones that graduated with an HS diploma is was always a similiar story - a little cheating and you were good because no one cared or really even noticed that he/she couldn't read.
It was enough to make one very, very cynical about just how many of those self-proclaimed dedicated teachers are...
For the ones that graduated with an HS diploma is was always a similiar story - a little cheating and you were good because no one cared or really even noticed that he/she couldn't read.
It was enough to make one very, very cynical about just how many of those self-proclaimed dedicated teachers are...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:04 PM (t0Rmr)
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it is something of an endorsement of the girls creativity and determination that she found some way to get her homework done without reading, everyboy should have the ability to read but she found an impressive work around
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:04 PM (Ji1au)
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https://chestertonschoolsnetwork.org/
oh this is a wonderful idea!
also the DP has always sucked and been a marxist rag
oh this is a wonderful idea!
also the DP has always sucked and been a marxist rag
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Pv3Rg)
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My take:
University ought not simply teach. It must advance the body of knowledge in material ways.
Otherwise it's a high school.
University ought not simply teach. It must advance the body of knowledge in material ways.
Otherwise it's a high school.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (PzXaK)
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Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all.
Its one of the worst failures of a concept I've ever seen on film. It could have been great, it had some great ideas, but the execution was absolutely terrible. I really liked Frankenstein but having his skull flopping around every movement was incredibly distracting and annoying for example.
That ending sequence of people leaping around on wires having a battle was the worst action scene I have ever witnessed. It was everything wrong with early CGI fest stuff.
Its one of the worst failures of a concept I've ever seen on film. It could have been great, it had some great ideas, but the execution was absolutely terrible. I really liked Frankenstein but having his skull flopping around every movement was incredibly distracting and annoying for example.
That ending sequence of people leaping around on wires having a battle was the worst action scene I have ever witnessed. It was everything wrong with early CGI fest stuff.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (dfIr7)
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182 Winston Churchill wrote that every young man should learn English, Latin as a matter of course, and Greek as a treat.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (gm9Sb)
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My high school history teacher, Mr. Ronald Holmes (who did three tours in Vietnam and was a total badass), told us the story of how, as a child, he went to see Gone with the Wind three times just to hear that line.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
I bet when he left the theater that first time he said, "I'll be back".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
I bet when he left the theater that first time he said, "I'll be back".
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Qr870)
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And thirdly, Van Helsing is an awesome movie
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
Posted by: Last Stop in Dipshitville at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (qUkBO)
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I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
So what you're saying is, your employer learned management in the military, where the SOP is to find the one or two soldiers in the shop who aren't totally incompetent and work them to death.
I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
So what you're saying is, your employer learned management in the military, where the SOP is to find the one or two soldiers in the shop who aren't totally incompetent and work them to death.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (y9nCu)
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"Professor Squirrel told me there was not a single copy of anything Freeman Dyson wrote in his entire University system. Amazingly sad."
Modern educational consensus:
Freeman Dyson was a fag and all his shit is retarded.
Modern educational consensus:
Freeman Dyson was a fag and all his shit is retarded.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (QB+5g)
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In my own personal experience I've had more good male managers then female, but I've had good female managers as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (t0Rmr)
I currently have a female manager. She's okay. The only real issue I have with her is that she won't hear me when I tell her that the current fetish of "show your direct reports that you CARE about them" really isn't necessary for me.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (t0Rmr)
I currently have a female manager. She's okay. The only real issue I have with her is that she won't hear me when I tell her that the current fetish of "show your direct reports that you CARE about them" really isn't necessary for me.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)
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Faggot Shitass and the White Oppressor of Hate
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
+++
What about me?
Posted by: Chester The Molester
Since when are high schoolers reading Hustler?
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
+++
What about me?
Posted by: Chester The Molester
Since when are high schoolers reading Hustler?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (+bLMA)
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I'm so glad that my son, who graduated college in 2023, isn't like the grads described here.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (77rzZ)
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books from that time period were like a companion you sat down with and enjoyed over time rather than a story you wanted to follow.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Books from that time, including (especially) Dickens's, were serialized. Each chapter would be savored, or devoured, possibly out loud with company, with great anticipation for the next.
books from that time period were like a companion you sat down with and enjoyed over time rather than a story you wanted to follow.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Books from that time, including (especially) Dickens's, were serialized. Each chapter would be savored, or devoured, possibly out loud with company, with great anticipation for the next.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (xp7+v)
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212 And thirdly, Van Helsing is an awesome movie
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
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I get a kick out of it.
Sommers has this childish energy that I find amusing to some degree.
But dude really needed a cowriter.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
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I get a kick out of it.
Sommers has this childish energy that I find amusing to some degree.
But dude really needed a cowriter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)
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It was not uncommon for upper class children in 17th and 18th century England to master Latin, Greek, Hebrew and Middle English by the time they were early teens. Seriously. You were expected to read the Classics, the Old Testament and Chaucer in the orginals in your teens. When you went to Oxford or Cambridge, many classes were taught in Latin.
Compare that to today, when 20-year-olds are illiterate in English.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (pMi6S)
There was a book written in the '80s called "Amusing Ourselves to Death" which talks about this.
Lays most of the blame on the shift from written word to audible word to visual stimulation (ie: books to radio to TV) and how the medium we use to interact with information entirely re-wires our brain.
Interesting hypothesis, and I'm sure much has been or will be written about the current medium of tiktok and twitter headlines.
Compare that to today, when 20-year-olds are illiterate in English.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (pMi6S)
There was a book written in the '80s called "Amusing Ourselves to Death" which talks about this.
Lays most of the blame on the shift from written word to audible word to visual stimulation (ie: books to radio to TV) and how the medium we use to interact with information entirely re-wires our brain.
Interesting hypothesis, and I'm sure much has been or will be written about the current medium of tiktok and twitter headlines.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)
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Because schools aren't there to teach subjects anymore they are there to teach leftardism. They want people dumb and it's working.
dumb is fine it is that they are decivilized which is the thing,
dumb is fine it is that they are decivilized which is the thing,
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (3GGcJ)
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There were definitely some books we had to read in high school english that bored the living Hell out of me. Just had to grind through them. I imagine I'd get a lot more out of some of them 50 years later.
But the Canterbury Tales was lit af.
But the Canterbury Tales was lit af.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (wtvvX)
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I'll defend 'A Tale of Two Cities'. It can wordy in places, though how you tell Dickens 'cut it short' I don't know. But I thought it was intricate with a large cast of distinct characters and there are some very noble sentiments in it.
Also fuck the French.
Also fuck the French.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (xcxpd)
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And thirdly, Van Helsing is an awesome movie
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
Any film that has Kate Beckinsale in painted-on leather or latex is by definition an awesome movie.
And thirdly, Van Helsing is an awesome movie
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
Any film that has Kate Beckinsale in painted-on leather or latex is by definition an awesome movie.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (y9nCu)
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I currently have a female manager. She's okay. The only real issue I have with her is that she won't hear me when I tell her that the current fetish of "show your direct reports that you CARE about them" really isn't necessary for me.
So the dark answer to this is that you don't have to actually care, but if you are able to fake it it will have the same employee retention effect.
So the dark answer to this is that you don't have to actually care, but if you are able to fake it it will have the same employee retention effect.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (t0Rmr)
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I'm so glad that my son, who graduated college in 2023, isn't like the grads described here.
Posted by: Bulg
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How did he manage it?
I'm so glad that my son, who graduated college in 2023, isn't like the grads described here.
Posted by: Bulg
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How did he manage it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (xp7+v)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (PzXaK)
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I saw Van Helsing last night. Saw it 20 years ago and forgot about it. Now I remember why. Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Stephen Sommers was a thing for like 5 minutes.
Van Helsing ended that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, maybe more than 5 minutes. The Mummy and all ...
I also thought Deep Rising was quite good for what it was.
But VH was a total misfire.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Stephen Sommers was a thing for like 5 minutes.
Van Helsing ended that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, maybe more than 5 minutes. The Mummy and all ...
I also thought Deep Rising was quite good for what it was.
But VH was a total misfire.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
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Freeman Dyson was a fag and all his shit is retarded.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (QB+5g)
He sucked
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (QB+5g)
He sucked
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (Qr870)
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229 Well, maybe more than 5 minutes. The Mummy and all ...
I also thought Deep Rising was quite good for what it was.
But VH was a total misfire.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
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It was The Mummy Returns that really ended things. It just made too much money for people to realize at the time.
I also thought Deep Rising was quite good for what it was.
But VH was a total misfire.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
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It was The Mummy Returns that really ended things. It just made too much money for people to realize at the time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)
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When I was in HS we had to read War and Peace...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (PzXaK)
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"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (77rzZ)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (RHGPo)
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dumb is fine it is that they are decivilized which is the thing,
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (3GGcJ
That's fair.
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (3GGcJ
That's fair.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (Qr870)
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (fV+MH)
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An Ivy League prof I know hired some of his post-grad students to put up some siding on his house. We were outside watching the progress of the work. One of the guys would reach into his nail pouch, pull out a nail and drive it in. But the next nail he tossed in the trash bin. This went on for a while until my friend hollered, "Hey, why are you throwing out half the nails?" The kid said, "The points are on the wrong end!"
My professor friend replied, "You dummy! Those are for the other side of the house!"
Posted by: muldoon
Thanks, Moe.
Posted by: Curly
My professor friend replied, "You dummy! Those are for the other side of the house!"
Posted by: muldoon
Thanks, Moe.
Posted by: Curly
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (+bLMA)
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the nice thing is if youre fond of what internets did for education , your going to love ai
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (lwxOY)
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"I saw Van Helsing last night. Saw it 20 years ago and forgot about it. Now I remember why. Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all."
I watched "Nosferatu" last night and for some reason was reminded of that abortion of a movie. The guy playing Dracula-which is one of the coolest characters when played right-hammed it up so bad he deserved a stake in the heart
I watched "Nosferatu" last night and for some reason was reminded of that abortion of a movie. The guy playing Dracula-which is one of the coolest characters when played right-hammed it up so bad he deserved a stake in the heart
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (xP8uf)
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Books from that time, including (especially) Dickens's, were serialized. Each chapter would be savored, or devoured, possibly out loud with company, with great anticipation for the next.
There were fewer things to distract you back then. I found that out when our power went out one winter: I spent most of the day cleaning and reading by daylight near the window, then sleeping from sundown to sunup. It was slower and more relaxing and I would savor the book more.
https://youtu.be/3KbTO13pFN4
There were fewer things to distract you back then. I found that out when our power went out one winter: I spent most of the day cleaning and reading by daylight near the window, then sleeping from sundown to sunup. It was slower and more relaxing and I would savor the book more.
https://youtu.be/3KbTO13pFN4
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (dfIr7)
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In a lot of forward looking dystopian novels the government makes it so the plebes can't read works that oppose the government's efforts - 1984 being the most extreme example.
But it turns out the government, or more accurately the people that control the government, can get the same impact by just distracting people 24/7.
And the amazing thing is they succeed in this more with people that don't work then with people that do. I can see how TikTok or the like can be addicting, but there are people that literally spend all day on it and come away knowing nothing of value.
But it turns out the government, or more accurately the people that control the government, can get the same impact by just distracting people 24/7.
And the amazing thing is they succeed in this more with people that don't work then with people that do. I can see how TikTok or the like can be addicting, but there are people that literally spend all day on it and come away knowing nothing of value.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (t0Rmr)
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"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg
In 1939? Oh yeah.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg
In 1939? Oh yeah.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (+bLMA)
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239 the nice thing is if youre fond of what internets did for education , your going to love ai
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (lwxOY)
It's already happening. "Chat GPT, summarize the book Gone With the Wind for me, and write an essay about it in the voice of an 11th grade student, based on the following prompt:" (then copy and paste the assignment from the teacher in to ChatGPT)
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (lwxOY)
It's already happening. "Chat GPT, summarize the book Gone With the Wind for me, and write an essay about it in the voice of an 11th grade student, based on the following prompt:" (then copy and paste the assignment from the teacher in to ChatGPT)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:11 PM (uCjyK)
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243 "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg
In 1939? Oh yeah.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (+bLMA)
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"I AM THE LARGEST INDEPENDENT PRODUCER ON THE PLANET AND I'M HIGH ON THE 30S VERSION OF COCAINE!!!!! YOU WILL BEND TO MY WILL, YOU FUCKERS!"
-David O. Selznick, transcript of meeting with the Hays Office
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg
In 1939? Oh yeah.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (+bLMA)
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"I AM THE LARGEST INDEPENDENT PRODUCER ON THE PLANET AND I'M HIGH ON THE 30S VERSION OF COCAINE!!!!! YOU WILL BEND TO MY WILL, YOU FUCKERS!"
-David O. Selznick, transcript of meeting with the Hays Office
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)
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End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
Posted by: zombie
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Consolation: if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, so we'll all go down the toilet at the same time.
End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
Posted by: zombie
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Consolation: if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, so we'll all go down the toilet at the same time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (xp7+v)
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Interesting hypothesis, and I'm sure much has been or will be written about the current medium of tiktok and twitter headlines.
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Maybe someone will do a youtube video about it.
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Maybe someone will do a youtube video about it.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (zLwRl)
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How did he manage it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I'd like to think it's his awesome parents!
But, seriously, he's always been pretty driven. It sometimes takes him awhile to make up his mind, but, once he's done so, he's all-in. Very determined and goal-oriented.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I'd like to think it's his awesome parents!
But, seriously, he's always been pretty driven. It sometimes takes him awhile to make up his mind, but, once he's done so, he's all-in. Very determined and goal-oriented.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (77rzZ)
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A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
But SOOOOOO much better than Great Expectations.
Great Expectations was my first Dickens book and I wouldn't have read another if ToTC wasn't required for a class.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
But SOOOOOO much better than Great Expectations.
Great Expectations was my first Dickens book and I wouldn't have read another if ToTC wasn't required for a class.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (N1DT3)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
yeah that is one of the more amusing parts of being an author. Well, that wasn't what I was doing or meant but hey you have fun with that.
yeah that is one of the more amusing parts of being an author. Well, that wasn't what I was doing or meant but hey you have fun with that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (dfIr7)
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Maybe AI is showing a major flaw in our school curriculums.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (Qr870)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
He should talk with Joss Whedon and Alan Moore
He should talk with Joss Whedon and Alan Moore
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (t0Rmr)
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I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
I swear that the TV version had "darn" there, but that might just be a false memory.
I swear that the TV version had "darn" there, but that might just be a false memory.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (dfIr7)
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Thornton Melon: [chuckling to his classmates] Good teacher. He really seems to care. About what I have no idea.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (RHGPo)
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My high school history teacher, Mr. Ronald Holmes (who did three tours in Vietnam and was a total badass), told us the story of how, as a child, he went to see Gone with the Wind three times just to hear that line.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
Did he know Professor Terguson?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
Did he know Professor Terguson?
Posted by: Thornton Melon at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (wVcYX)
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251 Maybe AI is showing a major flaw in our school curriculums.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (Qr870)
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Junior has to handwrite summaries of what he read every day this summer.
His Rome prep today was using the map of the city to trace routes from several places to others.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (Qr870)
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Junior has to handwrite summaries of what he read every day this summer.
His Rome prep today was using the map of the city to trace routes from several places to others.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Today it's the internet that allows students not to have to read books. In my day it was Cliff Notes.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (VofaG)
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Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
Some people are bookish... it's fine. I remember choosing "Dickens and the novel of protest" for my senior thesis in HS and my English teacher telling me that she looked forward to reading what I had to say since she'd written her doctoral thesis on it. She was a good teacher. I learned a lot from her - not that, she was pretty old.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
Some people are bookish... it's fine. I remember choosing "Dickens and the novel of protest" for my senior thesis in HS and my English teacher telling me that she looked forward to reading what I had to say since she'd written her doctoral thesis on it. She was a good teacher. I learned a lot from her - not that, she was pretty old.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (ExV1e)
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"I'll defend 'A Tale of Two Cities'. It can wordy in places, though how you tell Dickens 'cut it short' I don't know. But I thought it was intricate with a large cast of distinct characters and there are some very noble sentiments in it.
Also fuck the French.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"
The dialogue between the father and the daughter was just too maudlin for me. And then when the father regressed back into crazy town I said "see ya".
Also fuck the French.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"
The dialogue between the father and the daughter was just too maudlin for me. And then when the father regressed back into crazy town I said "see ya".
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (fV+MH)
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258 Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)
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End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
Posted by: zombie
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Consolation: if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, so we'll all go down the toilet at the same time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Solution?
Ground pounding world war to thin the ranks. Won't need as much deadwood hanging around.
Posted by: zombie
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Consolation: if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, so we'll all go down the toilet at the same time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Solution?
Ground pounding world war to thin the ranks. Won't need as much deadwood hanging around.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (+bLMA)
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So its a book thread now?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (dfIr7)
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Here is a ChatGPT 5 Sentence Summary of GWTW...
Gone with the Wind follows Scarlett O’Hara, a headstrong Southern belle, whose life is upended by the American Civil War and its aftermath. As her family’s plantation, Tara, suffers from the war’s destruction, Scarlett uses cunning and determination to survive and rebuild. She obsessively pursues Ashley Wilkes, despite his marriage to gentle Melanie, while constantly clashing with the dashing and pragmatic Rhett Butler. Scarlett eventually marries Rhett, but her selfishness and emotional blindness drive him away. In the end, after Melanie dies and Ashley is free, Scarlett realizes too late that she loved Rhett all along — but vows to win him back with the iconic line, "Tomorrow is another day."
Gone with the Wind follows Scarlett O’Hara, a headstrong Southern belle, whose life is upended by the American Civil War and its aftermath. As her family’s plantation, Tara, suffers from the war’s destruction, Scarlett uses cunning and determination to survive and rebuild. She obsessively pursues Ashley Wilkes, despite his marriage to gentle Melanie, while constantly clashing with the dashing and pragmatic Rhett Butler. Scarlett eventually marries Rhett, but her selfishness and emotional blindness drive him away. In the end, after Melanie dies and Ashley is free, Scarlett realizes too late that she loved Rhett all along — but vows to win him back with the iconic line, "Tomorrow is another day."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (XV/Pl)
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Maybe AI is showing a major flaw in our school curriculums.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Occasionally I'll hear about a teacher who will make his students argue the other side in a debate format to make sure they actually understand the issue at hand.
It usually generates a lot of outrage, but this is one of the easiest ways to force people to actually THINK that comes to mind.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Occasionally I'll hear about a teacher who will make his students argue the other side in a debate format to make sure they actually understand the issue at hand.
It usually generates a lot of outrage, but this is one of the easiest ways to force people to actually THINK that comes to mind.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)
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I watched "Nosferatu" last night and for some reason was reminded of that abortion of a movie. The guy playing Dracula-which is one of the coolest characters when played right-hammed it up so bad he deserved a stake in the heart
Posted by: UGAdawg
The 1922 original is genuinely creepy.
Posted by: UGAdawg
The 1922 original is genuinely creepy.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (77rzZ)
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254 Thornton Melon: [chuckling to his classmates] Good teacher. He really seems to care. About what I have no idea.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (RHGPo)
Love that movie.. They mis cast the Son though in my opinion... Or the girlfriend...
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (RHGPo)
Love that movie.. They mis cast the Son though in my opinion... Or the girlfriend...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (VE6XX)
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Why would changing the spelling of a word bother anyone on the Left? They routinely change the meaning of words, sometimes in the middle of the same conversation. A conservative peaceful 'Protest' becomes an 'Insurrection'. Liberals burning down half the city becomes "Mostly Peaceful"
Their free speech means I have to listen to everything they say, without any comment. My free speech means they can shout be down any time they like.
Apparently, someone gave them the Gaia given right to control the language. Misspelling? Hah!
Their free speech means I have to listen to everything they say, without any comment. My free speech means they can shout be down any time they like.
Apparently, someone gave them the Gaia given right to control the language. Misspelling? Hah!
Posted by: JB1000 at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (UP8/b)
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Lays most of the blame on the shift from written word to audible word to visual stimulation (ie: books to radio to TV)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)
I started reading before kindergarten in the late 60s. Which is how I quickly realized that American TV has always had the IQ of a steaming pile of monkey crap.
On the other hand, Japanese superheros like Kikaida or Ultraman were teh awesome.
Lays most of the blame on the shift from written word to audible word to visual stimulation (ie: books to radio to TV)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)
I started reading before kindergarten in the late 60s. Which is how I quickly realized that American TV has always had the IQ of a steaming pile of monkey crap.
On the other hand, Japanese superheros like Kikaida or Ultraman were teh awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (y9nCu)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
yeah that is one of the more amusing parts of being an author. Well, that wasn't what I was doing or meant but hey you have fun with that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (dfIr7)
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I think good writers have a keen grasp of human nature and story. So a good story with good characters will have things that resonate with readers even if the writer didn't deliberately put them in.
yeah that is one of the more amusing parts of being an author. Well, that wasn't what I was doing or meant but hey you have fun with that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (dfIr7)
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I think good writers have a keen grasp of human nature and story. So a good story with good characters will have things that resonate with readers even if the writer didn't deliberately put them in.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
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I wrote a qualitative safety analysis for a project that installed some non-essential systems and equipment, and asked for some review and comment before sending it out for approval. The company's Director of Engineering provided his feedback that was obviously some AI generated argle bargle.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (3Ope8)
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re 74: i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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270 I wrote a qualitative safety analysis for a project that installed some non-essential systems and equipment, and asked for some review and comment before sending it out for approval. The company's Director of Engineering provided his feedback that was obviously some AI generated argle bargle.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (3Ope
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I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (3Ope
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I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Quick show of hands -- how many Morons and 'Ettes are English Majors?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the English Major at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (PiwSw)
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271 re 74: i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (Bi+MU)
I work on the printers, ovens and pick & place machines. Crazy high tech stuff.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (Bi+MU)
I work on the printers, ovens and pick & place machines. Crazy high tech stuff.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (lPvx2)
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Let's not pretend that these little mouthbreathing homunculi would all turn into men and women of letters if they just paid a little more attention in class or had teachers who weren't all slinging dildoes around and cornholing anything that stops moving for three seconds.
It would definitely be less effective than sending them to the Mines as children.
Make Child Labor Great Again.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (Bi+MU)
The Dignity Canal isn't going to dig itself.
It would definitely be less effective than sending them to the Mines as children.
Make Child Labor Great Again.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (Bi+MU)
The Dignity Canal isn't going to dig itself.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 02:17 PM (g8Ew8)
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In the end, after Melanie dies and Ashley is free, Scarlett realizes too late that she loved Rhett all along — but vows to win him back with the iconic line, "Tomorrow is another day."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (XV/Pl)
It was fine until that last part. Or did I totally miss that as how Scarlett felt?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (XV/Pl)
It was fine until that last part. Or did I totally miss that as how Scarlett felt?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:17 PM (VofaG)
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I thought it was a book thread.
Posted by: Trying to keep up at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (bcy1V)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
*snort* Ok, that's pretty damn funny!
*snort* Ok, that's pretty damn funny!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (3Ope8)
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If 30+ years of listening to Conservative, Inc. and the Republicans have taught me anything is that tax cuts, vouchers, charter schools and tax cuts will fix all these issues.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (V362x)
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I think we can give a big shout out to Bill
Gates who pushed Common Core. He probably should be jailed just for that. Second look at bill of attainders.
Gates who pushed Common Core. He probably should be jailed just for that. Second look at bill of attainders.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (Vh9CX)
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Ground pounding world war to thin the ranks. Won't need as much deadwood hanging around.
As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
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@122
>>Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Actually, if you have an air station, SMT and the like are not really a big problem.
>>Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Actually, if you have an air station, SMT and the like are not really a big problem.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (XV/Pl)
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Kill the wabbit!
Posted by: Elmer Fudd at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (wVcYX)
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I thought it was a book thread.
Posted by: Trying to keep up at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (bcy1V)
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Since we don't read anything from celebrated far left authors, this doesn't count.
/NPC's everywhere.
Posted by: Trying to keep up at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (bcy1V)
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Since we don't read anything from celebrated far left authors, this doesn't count.
/NPC's everywhere.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)
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Mixed bag, IMO. Each generation is loaded with dumbasses and hard working, curious people. I have a kid that graduated a couple years ago from an East Coast, liberal, "elite," college. Hard worker, quotes Russian authors - likes reading. Pre-med, and English, btw. Works 70 hour weeks. Other kid just finished masters - has a job lined up. See plenty of the other side too. Heading into an interview shortly with a Gen Z, will see how that goes!
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (2bFN5)
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Only about 1/4 really isn't very high. What does it say about the other 3/4? I'd guess:
* Just care about DEI
* Hiring managers were just as unprepared for the workforce - and haven't improved
* Just care if they can get the answers to all the "gotcha" questions right
* Sees actually being competent and capable as a threat to their own position
* Just care if they're a good enough ass-kisser
* They are only hiring people who have the right connections anyway - knowledge and skills are irrelevant
* "Taking the initiative" just means "not standing around waiting to be told what to do". Can't have that.
* Just care about DEI
* Hiring managers were just as unprepared for the workforce - and haven't improved
* Just care if they can get the answers to all the "gotcha" questions right
* Sees actually being competent and capable as a threat to their own position
* Just care if they're a good enough ass-kisser
* They are only hiring people who have the right connections anyway - knowledge and skills are irrelevant
* "Taking the initiative" just means "not standing around waiting to be told what to do". Can't have that.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (hOOi9)
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Face it, the H1Bs will be there until the school system can turn out a decent product.
Otherwise the market will shift to places where the educational system turn out qualified people.
We cannot continue our technical superiority in the world the way things are going.
Otherwise the market will shift to places where the educational system turn out qualified people.
We cannot continue our technical superiority in the world the way things are going.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (QB+5g)
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Education should be more one on one, outside classrooms, assisted but not driven by tech.
Class instruction should only be a couple of hours a day at most.
One model could be similar to Neal Stephenson's idea in the Diamond Age. A form of AI sets up puzzles or projects for the kid, like game, where they learn stuff by using it.
Class instruction should only be a couple of hours a day at most.
One model could be similar to Neal Stephenson's idea in the Diamond Age. A form of AI sets up puzzles or projects for the kid, like game, where they learn stuff by using it.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (VlUHr)
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I once heard that ancient Greece was the civilizational equivalent of the US in 1910, in areas without electricity.
That they were on the cusp discovering both electricity and steam power.
There's also the weird fact that Oxford was founded before the Aztec Empire was formed.
Anyway, what bothers me most about the current decline, and why I've said the lucky ones will die in the first attacks, is that for a while, you'll remember the way it was but there'll be no one to fix it.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
That they were on the cusp discovering both electricity and steam power.
There's also the weird fact that Oxford was founded before the Aztec Empire was formed.
Anyway, what bothers me most about the current decline, and why I've said the lucky ones will die in the first attacks, is that for a while, you'll remember the way it was but there'll be no one to fix it.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (JThEY)
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*smirk*
Posted by: Homeschoolers everywhere at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (bcy1V)
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It's not great.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM
The writing skills I see from our interns, who have supposedly just completed a legal research and writing class, are shockingly bad. I should never see a sentence fragment from someone who finished middle school.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM
The writing skills I see from our interns, who have supposedly just completed a legal research and writing class, are shockingly bad. I should never see a sentence fragment from someone who finished middle school.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dPfyF)
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Great Expectations was my first Dickens book and I wouldn't have read another if ToTC wasn't required for a class.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
My 5th-grade English class read that book. We read it aloud.
I probably wouldn't have read another Dickens book after that, either, had I not been in the chorus of Oliver! in the 8th grade, which led to my reading Oliver Twist.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
My 5th-grade English class read that book. We read it aloud.
I probably wouldn't have read another Dickens book after that, either, had I not been in the chorus of Oliver! in the 8th grade, which led to my reading Oliver Twist.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (77rzZ)
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In the end, after Melanie dies and Ashley is free, Scarlett realizes too late that she loved Rhett all along — but vows to win him back with the iconic line, "Tomorrow is another day."
Posted by: Thomas Bender
have a summary of this comment?
Posted by: Thomas Bender
have a summary of this comment?
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (XTrKs)
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This is a good as the Kaboom thread! And on a much more important subject!
Posted by: jocon307 at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (EuROc)
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Quick show of hands -- how many Morons and 'Ettes are English Majors?
I got kicked out of college for not going to class. So, no major.
I got kicked out of college for not going to class. So, no major.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
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As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
I'm on my way.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
I'm on my way.
Posted by: Apophis at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (lPvx2)
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The word "elite" seems wildly misplaced in that sentence.
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I've been bothered by that for ages now. To me, the word means the 1927 Yankees or the Navy Seals. Now, it means some, apparently, with weird colored hair.
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I've been bothered by that for ages now. To me, the word means the 1927 Yankees or the Navy Seals. Now, it means some, apparently, with weird colored hair.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (od0dV)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn't know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!
"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn't know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn't know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (y9nCu)
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You guys fight over that.
I'm going to finish my treatise about the hidden meaning of The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs.
"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn't know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (y9nCu)
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You guys fight over that.
I'm going to finish my treatise about the hidden meaning of The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:21 PM (6iQ9H)
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i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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300 have a summary of this comment?
Scarlett was an awful spoiled bitch
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
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And the men of the South would have cut off their own balls to get her attention.
Scarlett was an awful spoiled bitch
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
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And the men of the South would have cut off their own balls to get her attention.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Anyway, what bothers me most about the current decline, and why I've said the lucky ones will die in the first attacks, is that for a while, you'll remember the way it was but there'll be no one to fix it.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (JThEY)
Book recommendation: Riddley Walker, by Russell Hoban.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (JThEY)
Book recommendation: Riddley Walker, by Russell Hoban.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the English Major at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (PiwSw)
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The problem? The resolution repeatedly spelled the word "fascism" as "facism."
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That's just facile ...
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That's just facile ...
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (bDKEL)
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Don't blame the Monster Children for being Monster Children who went to college.
The blame lays with the egg and sperm donors, most of whom should have had vasectomies for the males and whatever you do to a woman to keep her from being a Broodmare.
The blame lays with the egg and sperm donors, most of whom should have had vasectomies for the males and whatever you do to a woman to keep her from being a Broodmare.
Posted by: Snip It and Clip It at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (rfMRc)
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I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (VlUHr)
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Daughter graduated College... Graphic design..Son.. Nope.. Of the two he is "smarter" just wouldn't do the work
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (VE6XX)
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I started reading before kindergarten in the late 60s. Which is how I quickly realized that American TV has always had the IQ of a steaming pile of monkey crap.
On the other hand, Japanese superheros like Kikaida or Ultraman were teh awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (y9nCu)
The argument is that the format itself can only produce an overwhelming amount of unnecessary information, and that it's primarily visual information.
So for TV news, for example, you have a 3 minute segment on a car accident on the interstate then the newscaster says "and then there's this" and it's a 3 minute segment on people mt Everest, then a series of commercials, etc. etc.
The format doesn't allow for deep thinking and by it's nature overwhelms you with visual stimulus, all of which just overwhelms your brain, which evolved to look at cave drawings then read the written word which causes you to create your own visuals and all of that.
Social media is basically TV but x100.
On the other hand, Japanese superheros like Kikaida or Ultraman were teh awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (y9nCu)
The argument is that the format itself can only produce an overwhelming amount of unnecessary information, and that it's primarily visual information.
So for TV news, for example, you have a 3 minute segment on a car accident on the interstate then the newscaster says "and then there's this" and it's a 3 minute segment on people mt Everest, then a series of commercials, etc. etc.
The format doesn't allow for deep thinking and by it's nature overwhelms you with visual stimulus, all of which just overwhelms your brain, which evolved to look at cave drawings then read the written word which causes you to create your own visuals and all of that.
Social media is basically TV but x100.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (uCjyK)
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On the subject of books, I've been reading a lot of foreign (Japenese and Korean) books lately, but everything I find seems to be fantasy.
Is there any good Sci-Fi out there? I was some spaceships blowing each other up or giant robots or something.
Something like "Ender's Game". Not the later, freaky books that make up the "Saga", but the first one.
Is there any good Sci-Fi out there? I was some spaceships blowing each other up or giant robots or something.
Something like "Ender's Game". Not the later, freaky books that make up the "Saga", but the first one.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (N1DT3)
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'I do not care she is illeterate. She pleases me. Have her bathed and bring her to my chambers.'
-Something Zod has said.
-Something Zod has said.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (LHPAg)
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So glad I homeschooled!
Posted by: Texican ette at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (SNf74)
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2.1 million people live in Gaza, and a new judicial ruling in France gives every single one of them the right to move to France. If I were Bibi Netanyahu, I would buy every single one of them a plane ticket and wave goodbye as they took their free trip to Paris. If I were a Gazan, I would accept that free ticket and get on the first plane, hoping that the free room and board will allow me to enjoy my time there.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (6iQ9H)
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As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
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If you fight by European rules, yeah.
All it takes is one side that goes back to "I'll kill your warriors in order to assimilate your women and take your stuff,' rather than 'let me put my ideology in you' which will be an easier position to sell after the collapse.
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If you fight by European rules, yeah.
All it takes is one side that goes back to "I'll kill your warriors in order to assimilate your women and take your stuff,' rather than 'let me put my ideology in you' which will be an easier position to sell after the collapse.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (zLwRl)
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"Scarlett was an awful spoiled bitch."
And The Wizard of Oz was a story about two women fighting over a pair of shoes.
And The Wizard of Oz was a story about two women fighting over a pair of shoes.
Posted by: Movie Critic wannabe at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (bcy1V)
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303 Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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I...appreciate Ulysses. I think that's the best way to put it.
I find emotional meaning in its finale, as showy and opaque as it is.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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I...appreciate Ulysses. I think that's the best way to put it.
I find emotional meaning in its finale, as showy and opaque as it is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Quick show of hands -- how many Morons and 'Ettes are English Majors?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the English Major at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (PiwSw)
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Gigolo
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the English Major at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (PiwSw)
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Gigolo
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (iFTx/)
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The opening chapters of Great Expectations are pretty good, though. The graveyard scene at the very beginning is riveting.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (77rzZ)
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Facism?
Hell even Spell Check flags that.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:21 PM (6iQ9H)
You should see how they spelled fight
Hell even Spell Check flags that.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:21 PM (6iQ9H)
You should see how they spelled fight
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (Qr870)
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i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
I've watched most of Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Does that count?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
I've watched most of Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Does that count?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (wVcYX)
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I was a Marketing major with intention to work in the Advertising industry.
Ended up an Insurance claims manager for 35 years.
Ended up an Insurance claims manager for 35 years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (VofaG)
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The bigger problem with fixing modern electronics is that you will not have any access to the service manuals or any of the IC's should you need them.
You might be able to look up a part and may be listed as being available, but the chip manufacturer will not sell it to you.
That's pretty much the reason everything is disposable.
You might be able to look up a part and may be listed as being available, but the chip manufacturer will not sell it to you.
That's pretty much the reason everything is disposable.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (XV/Pl)
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308 I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
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"Copilot, write me a self review that highlights these two projects in a self-critically positive light."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
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"Copilot, write me a self review that highlights these two projects in a self-critically positive light."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
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" I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*"
Unbeliveable!!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*"
Unbeliveable!!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (QB+5g)
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Snow Crash and The Diamond Age.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (6iQ9H)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Yeah, its been a rough slog trying to read classic celebrated books because too many of them are just... not as good as their reputation, especially early 20th century. Some of them are absolute gems but many are pretentious and awful.
Yeah, its been a rough slog trying to read classic celebrated books because too many of them are just... not as good as their reputation, especially early 20th century. Some of them are absolute gems but many are pretentious and awful.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (dfIr7)
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Kurt Vonnegut in Back to School was a classic bit
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (Ry3Y5)
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"lack of preparation, a so-so work ethic, and a sense of entitlement"
So ... 1/4 of hiring managers have a "confession by projection" thing going on...
So ... 1/4 of hiring managers have a "confession by projection" thing going on...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (hOOi9)
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Here's the answer. Scroll down to the part on "the cloister." It's an effective, therefore doomed, solution. But it will probably get a few trials.
https://tinyurl.com/395cwcfu
Here's the answer. Scroll down to the part on "the cloister." It's an effective, therefore doomed, solution. But it will probably get a few trials.
https://tinyurl.com/395cwcfu
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (xp7+v)
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Nood. Surplus.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (ExV1e)
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Something like "Ender's Game". Not the later, freaky books that make up the "Saga", but the first one.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (N1DT3)
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I've been enjoying the Tyrus Rechs series. Who doesn't like a mercenary who's immortal flying around the galaxy blowing stuff up?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (N1DT3)
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I've been enjoying the Tyrus Rechs series. Who doesn't like a mercenary who's immortal flying around the galaxy blowing stuff up?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (tT6L1)
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someboyd who hates dickens should try melville,
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (lwxOY)
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324 I was a Marketing major with intention to work in the Advertising industry.
Ended up an Insurance claims manager for 35 years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (VofaG)
I've spent my entire 20 professional years in advertising/marketing.
You didn't miss much.
Ended up an Insurance claims manager for 35 years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (VofaG)
I've spent my entire 20 professional years in advertising/marketing.
You didn't miss much.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (KbCG3)
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Is there any good Sci-Fi out there? I was some spaceships blowing each other up or giant robots or something./i]
Check out Control-Alt-Revolt by Nick Cole. I highly recommend. I'll dig through my stuff, there are a few Horde sci fi writers and that's good stuff as well.
Check out Control-Alt-Revolt by Nick Cole. I highly recommend. I'll dig through my stuff, there are a few Horde sci fi writers and that's good stuff as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (dfIr7)
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@294
>>have a summary of this comment?
Scarlett loses Rhett, realizes love, vows hope: "Tomorrow’s another day."
>>have a summary of this comment?
Scarlett loses Rhett, realizes love, vows hope: "Tomorrow’s another day."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (XV/Pl)
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I've watched most of Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Does that count?
Posted by: Count de Monet
It's the Soggy Bottom Boys!
Posted by: Count de Monet
It's the Soggy Bottom Boys!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (+bLMA)
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (VofaG)
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All I see are phallic symbols.
Posted by: Horny 11th grade English Lit teacher at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (bcy1V)
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I think most of our problems, and I will be repeating myself, again, is that we smirk at virtue. It's all about how to get ahead, not how to be the best person you can be.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (vd6bO)
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That last part is a killer. It's also why DEI hires/promotions are usually a disaster. Everyone infected with woke is also infected by the comorbidity of believing that all criticism/direction from your boss is a racial or sexual aggression, and that you're perfect the way you are, and that anyone who attempts to instruct you to do the job the right way is a racist who doesn't understand your Different Ways of Knowing.
Can't share details but I know someone personally who was on the receiving end of this. Was a VP or SVP at a BIG company. White guy. Hired a young black woman who fucked something up and he gave her gentle correction. This is a very non-confrontational guy BTW, to the point of being a bit of a pushover. She eventually quit. Then sued alleging, of course, racial discrimination. The corporation settled, being the pussies corporations are. The great irony is that almost the entirety of this guy's department was comprised of minorities.
Can't share details but I know someone personally who was on the receiving end of this. Was a VP or SVP at a BIG company. White guy. Hired a young black woman who fucked something up and he gave her gentle correction. This is a very non-confrontational guy BTW, to the point of being a bit of a pushover. She eventually quit. Then sued alleging, of course, racial discrimination. The corporation settled, being the pussies corporations are. The great irony is that almost the entirety of this guy's department was comprised of minorities.
Posted by: Can't do the work but they'll sue the shit out of you at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: one hour sober at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Y1sOo)
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"And The Wizard of Oz was a story about two women fighting over a pair of shoes.
Posted by: Movie Critic wannabe"
Holy shit!
Posted by: Movie Critic wannabe"
Holy shit!
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (fV+MH)
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"They Don’t Read Very Well: A Study of the Reading Comprehension Skills of English Majors at Two Midwestern Universities"
a very scary paper.
https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/article/922346
a very scary paper.
https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/article/922346
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (dKEEs)
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310 Daughter graduated College... Graphic design..Son.. Nope.. Of the two he is "smarter" just wouldn't do the work
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A twelve year sentence of bells and cells might be too much for a normal guy. Adding 4 moar years to that sentence is not as attractive as they make out.
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A twelve year sentence of bells and cells might be too much for a normal guy. Adding 4 moar years to that sentence is not as attractive as they make out.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (W3T6M)
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I've spent my entire 20 professional years in advertising/marketing.
You didn't miss much.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (KbCG3)
I wanted to be the creative producer of ad campaigns. I still make up commercials in my head for different products.
You didn't miss much.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (KbCG3)
I wanted to be the creative producer of ad campaigns. I still make up commercials in my head for different products.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: one hour sober at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (Y1sOo)
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Anyway, what bothers me most about the current decline, and why I've said the lucky ones will die in the first attacks, is that for a while, you'll remember the way it was but there'll be no one to fix it.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
Dark Ages were not that bad.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
Dark Ages were not that bad.
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (tm0oK)
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Dark Ages were not that bad.
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Serfs only paid 20% of their crop. Compare that to today's Dane Geld.
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Serfs only paid 20% of their crop. Compare that to today's Dane Geld.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (W3T6M)
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296 Quick show of hands -- how many Morons and 'Ettes are English Majors?
I got kicked out of college for not going to class. So, no major.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
Got kicked out first semester for cutting classes and drinking, informed I was likely going to be drafted (before lottery), so enlisted Navy. Fourteen years later got an Associates in General Studies. I was Elited.
I got kicked out of college for not going to class. So, no major.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
Got kicked out first semester for cutting classes and drinking, informed I was likely going to be drafted (before lottery), so enlisted Navy. Fourteen years later got an Associates in General Studies. I was Elited.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (LHPAg)
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The writing skills I see from our interns, who have supposedly just completed a legal research and writing class, are shockingly bad. I should never see a sentence fragment from someone who finished middle school.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dPfyF)
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Not even fragments of their imagination?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dPfyF)
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Not even fragments of their imagination?
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (qcBGV)
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Check out Control-Alt-Revolt by Nick Cole. I highly recommend. I'll dig through my stuff, there are a few Horde sci fi writers and that's good stuff as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (dfIr7)
Glad I buy stuff through Amazon, because it tells me I've already purchased it.
After reading the review, I remember that one. I read it almost 10 years ago. It was very good.
There's another one I read about the same time that was about a new future with a passenger airplane that went to the edge of space that got sabotaged into actual space. I can't recall the name of that one, but I enjoyed it a lot too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (dfIr7)
Glad I buy stuff through Amazon, because it tells me I've already purchased it.
After reading the review, I remember that one. I read it almost 10 years ago. It was very good.
There's another one I read about the same time that was about a new future with a passenger airplane that went to the edge of space that got sabotaged into actual space. I can't recall the name of that one, but I enjoyed it a lot too.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (N1DT3)
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I sympathize with the job hunt complaints. (cough) years ago, I got an Associates degree in IT and went to work. Ever since then, I've been moving upward based on the strength of hard work, dedication, and intelligence. I go to look at jobs outside my employer... 90% want Bachelor's or MS, as well as 10-15 years of experience in multiple technologies that've only been around for slightly longer than that and weren't worth knowing anything about until about 5 years ago, and in depth knowledge of multiple specific software and languages besides. WTF?
Posted by: RandomDave at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (aJQbY)
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Got kicked out first semester for cutting classes and drinking, informed I was likely going to be drafted (before lottery), so enlisted Navy. Fourteen years later got an Associates in General Studies. I was Elited.
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Had a buddy in my Freshman year who joined the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam. Guess where he ended up? Gun boat patrol on the Mekong. And then he had to finish up the other 2 years and 9 months of his tour stateside. Smart move.
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Had a buddy in my Freshman year who joined the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam. Guess where he ended up? Gun boat patrol on the Mekong. And then he had to finish up the other 2 years and 9 months of his tour stateside. Smart move.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (W3T6M)
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i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
I once had a neighbor with a dog named Ulysses. Does that count?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
I once had a neighbor with a dog named Ulysses. Does that count?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 02:36 PM (g8Ew8)
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160 One thing I can say about the Moron Horde:
Based on the books you've recommended on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you guys are among the most intelligent, articulate, well-read bunch of Morons it's been my pleasure to encounter on a weekly basis.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
I recommended "Lust Rumble". Did you read it?
Based on the books you've recommended on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you guys are among the most intelligent, articulate, well-read bunch of Morons it's been my pleasure to encounter on a weekly basis.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
I recommended "Lust Rumble". Did you read it?
Posted by: Uncle Pervy at July 14, 2025 02:36 PM (G5+As)
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As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
Obligatory AI aliens talk about fighting humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCAziiAZoeM
As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
Obligatory AI aliens talk about fighting humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCAziiAZoeM
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (y9nCu)
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As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
Obligatory AI aliens talk about fighting humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCAziiAZoeM
Time to re-read Lucifer's Hammer, always fun.
As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
Obligatory AI aliens talk about fighting humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCAziiAZoeM
Time to re-read Lucifer's Hammer, always fun.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (LHPAg)
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Random Dave,
You hit the glass ceiling. I know many people in your situation and most of them become very bitter as time goes on. They are chained to where they are working and end up feeling abused by the system. Which they are.
I tell the younger folks that sound like you are to go and get their paper. It's stupid but it's the only way around it unless you go into management. It's hard if you don't have the support but this is one of the tragedies of the modern workforce.
You hit the glass ceiling. I know many people in your situation and most of them become very bitter as time goes on. They are chained to where they are working and end up feeling abused by the system. Which they are.
I tell the younger folks that sound like you are to go and get their paper. It's stupid but it's the only way around it unless you go into management. It's hard if you don't have the support but this is one of the tragedies of the modern workforce.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (QB+5g)
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It's the Education Machine, run by people who were "educated" by it, and inherited the system from people ho had also been educated by it. 60-70 years ago, when the Machine was being assembled, those people were the C+/B- high school graduates and the system, slowly but surely got worse and worse. Crab bucket mentality is endemic among this crew. No student is challenged- can't have them know more that the Ill-educated teacher- and everybody is an A student, because "look how good we're doing, gimme that raise ".
Academia did this. They tolerated Education Schools with sub-par standards. They stood by while admins created diploma-mill "studies" departments. They eventually along with grade-inflation to keep the bodies in the seats and their paychecks coming.
The chickens are coming home to roost.
Academia did this. They tolerated Education Schools with sub-par standards. They stood by while admins created diploma-mill "studies" departments. They eventually along with grade-inflation to keep the bodies in the seats and their paychecks coming.
The chickens are coming home to roost.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (n3kHr)
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The only time in my entire life, from an early age of learning to read, that I did not read for fun was in college in difficult pre-courses and then my major.
Because I was reading a lot of content for my major, on my one day off from classes or work I'd stare at art books. Simply because my brain was full and, I guess, I needed to decompress. The up side of this was I learned artists, especially French Impressionism.
Otherwise I am never without a book. Son's soccer game practice, doctor visits, trips, etc. There is a book in my purse.
I blame too much time on iPads or tablets for kids. If they don't see their parents reading, too, they don't read for pleasure.
DEI and racism also forces teachers to pass children who can't read. Wouldn't want to hurt their feelings by keeping them back a year in elementary school.
Because I was reading a lot of content for my major, on my one day off from classes or work I'd stare at art books. Simply because my brain was full and, I guess, I needed to decompress. The up side of this was I learned artists, especially French Impressionism.
Otherwise I am never without a book. Son's soccer game practice, doctor visits, trips, etc. There is a book in my purse.
I blame too much time on iPads or tablets for kids. If they don't see their parents reading, too, they don't read for pleasure.
DEI and racism also forces teachers to pass children who can't read. Wouldn't want to hurt their feelings by keeping them back a year in elementary school.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 03:02 PM (6PCLE)
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Employers: New grads are sub-literate morons who feel ungrateful that we don't shower them with accolades.
Also Employers: Heck no we're not going to hire the recently laid off mid-40s people who know what they're doing. We can import 3 sub-literate morons from India who can do exactly your job. Pshaw!
Also Employers: Heck no we're not going to hire the recently laid off mid-40s people who know what they're doing. We can import 3 sub-literate morons from India who can do exactly your job. Pshaw!
Posted by: Mister Fabulist at July 14, 2025 03:50 PM (x8eGV)
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I remember winter term of 1974 - shortened because of the high energy costs - when I had to read 2000 pages in 8 weeks. A lot of stress!
But, the lady in the second video only mentions books in the context of literature. I had to read meteorology and art textbooks, and almost every course had a fair amount of reading (by these "new" standards).
But, the lady in the second video only mentions books in the context of literature. I had to read meteorology and art textbooks, and almost every course had a fair amount of reading (by these "new" standards).
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 14, 2025 03:51 PM (w6EFb)
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56 Well, I don't know who corporate America is hiring then; i just retired with 27 years of military and law enforcement service and can't get a goddam interview.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
I see that all the time, too.
People who are smart and highly qualified working jobs they are way overqualified for, while the high paying corporate jobs are increasingly full of DEI hires and third world immigrants. Then those DEI hires and third world immigrants take over the HR departments of those companies and the cycle intensifies.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (uCjyK)
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Way late - but HR screening technology sucks. Here is a hint. Post your resume. But insert the job description in white ink at the end of your resume. Screening technology will see it. The interviewer won't. It helps your hit rate. Then you have to hope someone reading that has a brain.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
I see that all the time, too.
People who are smart and highly qualified working jobs they are way overqualified for, while the high paying corporate jobs are increasingly full of DEI hires and third world immigrants. Then those DEI hires and third world immigrants take over the HR departments of those companies and the cycle intensifies.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (uCjyK)
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Way late - but HR screening technology sucks. Here is a hint. Post your resume. But insert the job description in white ink at the end of your resume. Screening technology will see it. The interviewer won't. It helps your hit rate. Then you have to hope someone reading that has a brain.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 14, 2025 04:09 PM (GZYu7)
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Your own Paycheck without the Taxman taking 75% of it for the Useless Nations
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 14, 2025 06:12 PM (wGqjj)
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56 Well, I don't know who corporate America is hiring then; i just retired with 27 years of military and law enforcement service and can't get a goddam interview.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
“Thank you for your service, but you aren’t networked. So, go fucking starve to death.”
- corporate America
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Posted by: finance company at July 15, 2025 01:24 PM (IKtQ5)
Not Even the Leftist Simp NYT Believes That Biden Signed His Pardons
From Ed Morrissey: "Biden's" pardons aren't Biden's at all.
In an interview with The New York Times, Mr. Biden said that he had orally granted all the pardons and commutations issued at the end of his term, calling President Trump and other Republicans "liars" for claiming his aides had used an autopen to do so without his authorization. "I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday, asserting that he had his staff use an autopen replicating his signature on the clemency warrants because "we're talking about a whole lot of people." ... Mr. Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to large numbers of people, he and aides confirmed. Rather, after extensive discussion of different possible criteria, he signed off on the standards he wanted to be used to determine which convicts would qualify for a reduction in sentence. Even after Mr. Biden made that decision, one former aide said, the Bureau of Prisons kept providing additional information about specific inmates, resulting in small changes to the list. Rather than ask Mr. Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version through the autopen, which they saw as a routine procedure, the aide said.
“Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons…Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw as…routine”https://t.co/TwhbvujB6c pic.twitter.com/4OHRSl93or
— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) July 13, 2025
So the guy in charge of Covid censorship to cover up the crimes of Covid criminals then personally pardoned the top Covid criminal so that criminal couldn’t be charged with the crimes he originally censored you from talking about. https://t.co/LPfdLit90D
— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) July 14, 2025
IOW, they showed him the parameters... he gazed at them without comprehension and they ran with it.
— Arthur Kimes (@ComradeArthur) July 14, 2025
cc: @AceofSpadesHQ
This is worse than Woodrow F. Wilson's stroke. https://t.co/MmMcSWCLPL
I am begging the New York Times and the rest of the media to, for one brief moment, consider the possibility that a Democratic elected official could be not telling them the truth. pic.twitter.com/6j5HUfPaXR
— Drew Holden (@DrewHolden360) July 14, 2025
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st!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (dPfyF)
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The Others have been summoned.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (dPfyF)
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Bah, that's all in the past. Just move on. Dot Org.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (63Dwl)
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Top 10!
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (TN0g+)
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Joe's signing pardons. More crayons!
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (n2swS)
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Who Oked the NYT writing this?
Posted by: Ann at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (4neFu)
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What needs to happen is Trump writes an EO invalidating all of the suspect pardons and then let SCOTUS sort it out.
That's basically how this will get resolved.
That's basically how this will get resolved.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (XV/Pl)
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6 Who Oked the NYT writing this?
I mean it could be a limited hangout but it just might get away from them...
I mean it could be a limited hangout but it just might get away from them...
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Sounds like a whole lot of obfuscation around the central salient point:
Biden approved a list. The list was changed. Biden never approved the revised list.
The physical mechanism by which ink was applied to paper is irrelevant.
Biden approved a list. The list was changed. Biden never approved the revised list.
The physical mechanism by which ink was applied to paper is irrelevant.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (VoAdT)
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"we have to accept this as a fate accompli otherwise it will damage our political system too deeply"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (D7oie)
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Wut
Posted by: OkJohn at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (azIeo)
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Did the people running the autopen mill get a pardon?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (EXyHK)
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I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
Did I call it, or what?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
Did I call it, or what?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (Riz8t)
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Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons�Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw
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We are now at the point where the constitutional boundaries on presidential signatures is: "If it looks like it, it's true."
"TJM is pardoned of all federal crimes. Signed Biden."
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We are now at the point where the constitutional boundaries on presidential signatures is: "If it looks like it, it's true."
"TJM is pardoned of all federal crimes. Signed Biden."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)
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"I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday, asserting that he had his staff use an autopen replicating his signature on the clemency warrants because "we're talking about a whole lot of people."
Then you should be able to recall them.
Name the names.
Then you should be able to recall them.
Name the names.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (+bLMA)
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I made a boob boom on the carpet!
Posted by: Joe Biden, Loved By Millions Of Democrats at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (rfMRc)
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We should probably let the Autopen thing go, like the Epstein thing. Who cares, right?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (BUCrD)
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I have only small hope that the "Weekend at Bernie's" presidency will have a reckoning.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (N1DT3)
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I want to know who was added to the revised list.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (Qr870)
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I've got to ask you about this autopenis, Trebek. Does it work? I'll buy a dozen right now!
Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (y9ksN)
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@3
>>Bah, that's all in the past. Just move on. Dot Org.
Word.
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Deep State Breathing a Sigh of Relief because Epstein's Dead and Ghislane's in Jail but if she talks to congress, we might have to arrange a delivery of blankets.
>>Bah, that's all in the past. Just move on. Dot Org.
Word.
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Deep State Breathing a Sigh of Relief because Epstein's Dead and Ghislane's in Jail but if she talks to congress, we might have to arrange a delivery of blankets.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: The Four Answers of Chairman Biden at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (qUkBO)
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On the one hand, I tire of detailed news stories about things I knew about years ago but that Normies are only realizing now (and which nothing substantive has been done to remedy yet).
On the other hand, such stories are preferable to the sorts of people you find in the ZeroHedge comments or as "right-wing influencers" screaming about Epstein for yet another day.
By the way, I'm still waiting to see if Bongino is out or not. Lot's of "sources say" articles this weekend from supposedly right-wing sites, but the level of evidence so far has been at the level of a Natasha Bertrand article so far.
On the other hand, such stories are preferable to the sorts of people you find in the ZeroHedge comments or as "right-wing influencers" screaming about Epstein for yet another day.
By the way, I'm still waiting to see if Bongino is out or not. Lot's of "sources say" articles this weekend from supposedly right-wing sites, but the level of evidence so far has been at the level of a Natasha Bertrand article so far.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (+b4rY)
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"I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday, asserting that he had his staff use an autopen replicating his signature on the clemency warrants because "we're talking about a whole lot of people."
Dude, you can't even remember how sex works.
Dude, you can't even remember how sex works.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (Qr870)
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What about the judicial appointments? There is no way on this planet that Biden made those judicial appointments. That is why all these judges are popping up and saying that Trump has no authority to do anything.
Posted by: wferrin at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (lCdHU)
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A turnip says what?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (W3T6M)
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20 I've got to ask you about this autopenis, Trebek. Does it work? I'll buy a dozen right now!
Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery
Let It Snow!
Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery
Let It Snow!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (Riz8t)
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Nothing will happen, because nobody has the stones to other physically or materially ruin even a single leftist's life.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (UnA8+)
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26 What about the judicial appointments? There is no way on this planet that Biden made those judicial appointments. That is why all these judges are popping up and saying that Trump has no authority to do anything.
Posted by: wferrin at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (lCdHU)
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Most of 'em are actually Obama appointees.
And, the idea that presidents are intimately familiar with any judicial nominee outside of the couple of weeks before nominating one for SCOTUS seems...misplaced.
Posted by: wferrin at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (lCdHU)
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Most of 'em are actually Obama appointees.
And, the idea that presidents are intimately familiar with any judicial nominee outside of the couple of weeks before nominating one for SCOTUS seems...misplaced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (GBKbO)
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We should probably let the Autopen thing go, like the Epstein thing. Who cares, right?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Exactly. It wasn't like little kids being fucked.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Exactly. It wasn't like little kids being fucked.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (+bLMA)
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29 Nothing will happen, because nobody has the stones to other physically or materially ruin even a single leftist's life.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (UnA8+)
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Trump signing an EO declaring the final clemency list in question to be constitutionally invalid and arresting some of the people on the list would start an...interesting series of court cases.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (UnA8+)
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Trump signing an EO declaring the final clemency list in question to be constitutionally invalid and arresting some of the people on the list would start an...interesting series of court cases.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (dPfyF)
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It was a stutter pardon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (L/fGl)
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"Mr. Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to large numbers of people, he and aides confirmed. Rather, after extensive discussion of different possible criteria, he signed off on the standards he wanted to be used to determine which convicts would qualify for a reduction in sentence."
I think that's much more serious than the NYT seems to think. While I have never thought the president need personally and physically sign every individual pardon, I think the president must at least personally approve each name to be pardoned. Biden didn't do that.
Plus, the odd way the NYT phrases "signing off on the standards" suggests he didn't even do that.
There's more here. Certainly, the NYT hasn't done anything to quell the flames. Just the opposite.
So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
I think that's much more serious than the NYT seems to think. While I have never thought the president need personally and physically sign every individual pardon, I think the president must at least personally approve each name to be pardoned. Biden didn't do that.
Plus, the odd way the NYT phrases "signing off on the standards" suggests he didn't even do that.
There's more here. Certainly, the NYT hasn't done anything to quell the flames. Just the opposite.
So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (+qU29)
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I'm pretty sure you can't pardon based on 'standard'.
But then, we're talking about power and not theory. They got away with it. I doubt even Trump will cancel all of Biden's criminal pardons
But then, we're talking about power and not theory. They got away with it. I doubt even Trump will cancel all of Biden's criminal pardons
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (Al4HM)
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Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery
Let It Snow!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM
Sorry, you'll have to wait for tomorrow's Art Thread.
Let It Snow!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM
Sorry, you'll have to wait for tomorrow's Art Thread.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (dPfyF)
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This could get rather spicy. The pardon scandal is the tip of the iceberg. If the pardon signatures are questioned to the point of being disregarded then what does that do to anything else signed by Joe?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (tT6L1)
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35 So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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The fact most relevant to this story: Biden was a nearly braindead husk constantly fooled and/or manipulated by his own staff
But 81 million votes!!
But 81 million votes!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (5MZNC)
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I guess Trump isn't surrendering to the deep state afterall.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (t/2Uw)
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42 The fact most relevant to this story: Biden was a nearly braindead husk constantly fooled and/or manipulated by his own staff
But 81 million votes!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (5MZNC)
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"I see no problem with his intellect."
-Jasmine Crockett
But 81 million votes!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (5MZNC)
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"I see no problem with his intellect."
-Jasmine Crockett
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
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I guess what I don't understand is why there are people who care that people still care about Epstein.
What development has there been that would or should make people care less? It's been "investigated"? As Biden's Autopen would say, come on man.
It reminds me of those who wanted Trump to "move on" a few years back from talking about the stolen election. Why? It happened, it wasn't resolved, we all suffered the consequences.
This is at least similar, if not entirely related. But that doesn't mean if Trump says move on it's time to move on. That's insanity. He's not my boss.
What development has there been that would or should make people care less? It's been "investigated"? As Biden's Autopen would say, come on man.
It reminds me of those who wanted Trump to "move on" a few years back from talking about the stolen election. Why? It happened, it wasn't resolved, we all suffered the consequences.
This is at least similar, if not entirely related. But that doesn't mean if Trump says move on it's time to move on. That's insanity. He's not my boss.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
"Why are there 1,500 pardons in here for 'Your Name'?"
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
"Why are there 1,500 pardons in here for 'Your Name'?"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson's Stroke at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (JCZqz)
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Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (6iQ9H)
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Remind me how many democrats have been prosecuted so far.....i thought so.
Posted by: Marge, you're soaking in it. at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (YovzQ)
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But then, we're talking about power and not theory. They got away with it. I doubt even Trump will cancel all of Biden's criminal pardons
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
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I think, though, President Trump has been very carefully laying the groundwork to have everything done by Joe called into question. Notice how President Trump has been very public about signing a lot of EO's, the BBB, etc.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
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I think, though, President Trump has been very carefully laying the groundwork to have everything done by Joe called into question. Notice how President Trump has been very public about signing a lot of EO's, the BBB, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (tT6L1)
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I think the NYT has decided to make Biden the scapegoat for all the bad actors and actions from the start of the first Obama term to now. He's clearly non compos mentis, so his denials need not make any sense.
I'm awaiting a claim that Biden shot JR.
I'm awaiting a claim that Biden shot JR.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (Riz8t)
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Again, the only way this gets any action is if Trump invalidates the pardons.
There is not other mechanism to remedy this injustice.
It's like when Biden retroactively removed Trump's security clearance so that he could be prosecuted during the documents case.
The President has to act and if he doesn't then, just stop bringing it up.
There is not other mechanism to remedy this injustice.
It's like when Biden retroactively removed Trump's security clearance so that he could be prosecuted during the documents case.
The President has to act and if he doesn't then, just stop bringing it up.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (XV/Pl)
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"I see no problem with his intellect."
-Jasmine Crockett
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
I almost spit out the Diet Coke I’m drinking!
-Jasmine Crockett
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
I almost spit out the Diet Coke I’m drinking!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (5MZNC)
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A turnip says what?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM
"........."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (dPfyF)
Hey!!
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM
"........."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (dPfyF)
Hey!!
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (Qr870)
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Remember how they managed Obama with the checkboxes?
Three choices, the first and last being extreme but the middle, the one they wanted, was then comparably reasonable.
But even that lazy fuck pretended to read and review.
Biden wasn't even capable of that.
Three choices, the first and last being extreme but the middle, the one they wanted, was then comparably reasonable.
But even that lazy fuck pretended to read and review.
Biden wasn't even capable of that.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (JThEY)
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41 35 So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
There is no level of corruption I cannot believe they would sink to.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
There is no level of corruption I cannot believe they would sink to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (bss/y)
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32 Trump signing an EO declaring the final clemency list in question to be constitutionally invalid and arresting some of the people on the list would start an...interesting series of court cases.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
Meh.
They need to be physically AND financially abused. Roughed up at 3 AM Raids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
Meh.
They need to be physically AND financially abused. Roughed up at 3 AM Raids.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (UnA8+)
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Aside from the center of the controversy, two things:
1) I think we need to toss the "Autopen" in the trash. It causes more problems than it solves.
2) Don't forget there are likely operations like that of Epstein going on currently. Let's maybe address this first?
1) I think we need to toss the "Autopen" in the trash. It causes more problems than it solves.
2) Don't forget there are likely operations like that of Epstein going on currently. Let's maybe address this first?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (vd6bO)
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Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons�Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw
___________
Sure as hell aint defending Biden, but there's got to be a way to do this for categorical pardons without approving each one. Carter did it with the Vietnam draft dodgers, which was what, at least tens of thousands?
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Sure as hell aint defending Biden, but there's got to be a way to do this for categorical pardons without approving each one. Carter did it with the Vietnam draft dodgers, which was what, at least tens of thousands?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (p16cu)
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48 This is worse than Woodrow F. Wilson's stroke.
Fuck you too, buddy!
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson's Stroke at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (JCZqz)
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Slightly amusing movie thing.
There's an early subplot in Birdman of Alcatraz to commute Shroud's death sentence. His mother ends up at the President of the United States'...wife. Her decision leads to the commutation. No commentary about Woodrow being unable to do anything, but...it's the implication.
Fuck you too, buddy!
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson's Stroke at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (JCZqz)
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Slightly amusing movie thing.
There's an early subplot in Birdman of Alcatraz to commute Shroud's death sentence. His mother ends up at the President of the United States'...wife. Her decision leads to the commutation. No commentary about Woodrow being unable to do anything, but...it's the implication.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
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So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe, but the NYT and/or Biden doesn't seem to be saying that. Which is getting my antenna up.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe, but the NYT and/or Biden doesn't seem to be saying that. Which is getting my antenna up.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (iFTx/)
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This is at least similar, if not entirely related. But that doesn't mean if Trump says move on it's time to move on. That's insanity. He's not my boss.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
The AoS style guide: He’s not the boss of me!!
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
The AoS style guide: He’s not the boss of me!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (5MZNC)
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52 But then, we're talking about power and not theory. They got away with it. I doubt even Trump will cancel all of Biden's criminal pardons
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
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I think, though, President Trump has been very carefully laying the groundwork to have everything done by Joe called into question. Notice how President Trump has been very public about signing a lot of EO's, the BBB, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (tT6L1)
He might use the issue as leverage, but I doubt he'll actually cancel the pardons. He didn't jail Hillary, after all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
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I think, though, President Trump has been very carefully laying the groundwork to have everything done by Joe called into question. Notice how President Trump has been very public about signing a lot of EO's, the BBB, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (tT6L1)
He might use the issue as leverage, but I doubt he'll actually cancel the pardons. He didn't jail Hillary, after all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (xcxpd)
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It was a Presidency built entirely upon greed and falsehoods.
A Potemkin Presidency as it were.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (6iQ9H)
What's even more galling is they secretly removed and replaced a guy that wasnt even elected.
Mind you, that's extremely on-brand.
A Potemkin Presidency as it were.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (6iQ9H)
What's even more galling is they secretly removed and replaced a guy that wasnt even elected.
Mind you, that's extremely on-brand.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (Qr870)
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58 I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
There is no level of corruption I cannot believe they would sink to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (bss/y)
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"Here's the Fauci pardon, Mr. President."
"What?"
"Just say we can run this through the autopen, sir. It's the Fauci pardon."
"Huh?"
"Just say yes, sir."
"Yes, sir."
This would be "doing it right," by the way.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
There is no level of corruption I cannot believe they would sink to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (bss/y)
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"Here's the Fauci pardon, Mr. President."
"What?"
"Just say we can run this through the autopen, sir. It's the Fauci pardon."
"Huh?"
"Just say yes, sir."
"Yes, sir."
This would be "doing it right," by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (GBKbO)
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This is the guy who pardoned his entire family going back to 2009, literally as he was walking out the door. Let's not give him the benefit of the doubt, ok, nyt?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (YbdaV)
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Afternoon Ace. Someone who got one of Biden's "pardons" will have to face prosecution for this to be sorted out. Say an aggressive Federal prosecutor decides to prosecute Fauci. Fauci's attorneys would have to raise the pardon as a bar to prosecution. The prosecutor would have to demonstrate that Biden didn't sign them so no pardon. Will be interested to watch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (Ry3Y5)
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calling President Trump and other Republicans "liars" for claiming his aides had used festive little hats without his authorization.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (3BDA1)
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The problem here is that the constitution provides no penalties for violating almost any of its prohibitions. It is illegal for someone else to sign pardons for the president, and it ought to negate the pardons, but the constitution just says only he can do it. Not "and if someone else does, then x."
So what are the consequences for staffers using the autopen to write pardons and executive orders? None.
So what are the consequences for staffers using the autopen to write pardons and executive orders? None.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (dfIr7)
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63 Maybe, but the NYT and/or Biden doesn't seem to be saying that. Which is getting my antenna up.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (iFTx/)
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I am very open to the possibility that an aide just ran through some big names like Fauci through.
I just have a level of doubt about it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (iFTx/)
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I am very open to the possibility that an aide just ran through some big names like Fauci through.
I just have a level of doubt about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)
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Even his pardons were fake. Not surprised at all.
Posted by: Shoofly the Boxing Mule at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (ufJfM)
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"I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday, asserting that he had his staff use an autopen replicating his signature on the clemency warrants because "we're talking about a whole lot of people."
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Oh wow.
Looks what's being hidden there in plain sight.
A phone interview. Not in-person. Not via Zoom.
Really? Just Mr. Biden? No que cards? No staff feeding the answer?
Bullshit.
Even Bruce Willis in his last movies was less managed.
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Oh wow.
Looks what's being hidden there in plain sight.
A phone interview. Not in-person. Not via Zoom.
Really? Just Mr. Biden? No que cards? No staff feeding the answer?
Bullshit.
Even Bruce Willis in his last movies was less managed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (JThEY)
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (UjdFS)
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What needs to happen is Trump writes an EO invalidating all of the suspect pardons and then let SCOTUS sort it out.
That's basically how this will get resolved.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Something tells me the dancing black robes would only address the validity of the EO and not the pardons.
Trump should ask a random official in BFE to turn on an AI autopen for a pardon of some random asshole. "ChatGTP, write a pardon for some asshole in Buttfucky, KY."
That's basically how this will get resolved.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Something tells me the dancing black robes would only address the validity of the EO and not the pardons.
Trump should ask a random official in BFE to turn on an AI autopen for a pardon of some random asshole. "ChatGTP, write a pardon for some asshole in Buttfucky, KY."
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Billy Squier at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (mWFkF)
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He might use the issue as leverage, but I doubt he'll actually cancel the pardons. He didn't jail Hillary, after all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (xcxpd)
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I see your point and it's fair. I'd also point out, though, President Trump 2.0 has really been hitting things hard.
I'm going wait and see. I really hope, though, opening this can of worms is making a lot of people sweat.
He might use the issue as leverage, but I doubt he'll actually cancel the pardons. He didn't jail Hillary, after all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (xcxpd)
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I see your point and it's fair. I'd also point out, though, President Trump 2.0 has really been hitting things hard.
I'm going wait and see. I really hope, though, opening this can of worms is making a lot of people sweat.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (tT6L1)
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Fauci is the worst, most evil person in government in the last 50 years. Fight me
Please please make his pardon null and void
Please please make his pardon null and void
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (5MZNC)
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Why are so many prominent dems silent about this issue?
Because it's ridiculous and no evidence will be found. i'm not sure hyping it up would help Biden. Let it fail on it's own. With the help of some good lawyers.
the more that they attempt to do so the more people will assume they are lying. In the end it just serves no purpose except to feed the MAGA trolls even more so it's better to cut off their food supply by ignoring it.
Because elected democrats want to stay as far away from Biden as possible. Biden is not a popular ex president and I think many democrats harbor some ill will towards him for the election being what it was.
I expect a 6-3 SCOTUS ruling invalidating the pardons, but just Biden's.
If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Because it's ridiculous and no evidence will be found. i'm not sure hyping it up would help Biden. Let it fail on it's own. With the help of some good lawyers.
the more that they attempt to do so the more people will assume they are lying. In the end it just serves no purpose except to feed the MAGA trolls even more so it's better to cut off their food supply by ignoring it.
Because elected democrats want to stay as far away from Biden as possible. Biden is not a popular ex president and I think many democrats harbor some ill will towards him for the election being what it was.
I expect a 6-3 SCOTUS ruling invalidating the pardons, but just Biden's.
If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Ford’s pardon of draft dodgers might have been categorical? It depends on your definition. I don’t think he named any specific individuals, just a crime that qualified anyone for a pardon.
Mind you, he also didn’t say, here’s the category, come up with a list of names and run them through the autopen, I’m off to the John Ball Zoo.
I was so much less than 29 when that pardon came through, so I could be misremembering any or all of it.
Ford’s pardon of draft dodgers might have been categorical? It depends on your definition. I don’t think he named any specific individuals, just a crime that qualified anyone for a pardon.
Mind you, he also didn’t say, here’s the category, come up with a list of names and run them through the autopen, I’m off to the John Ball Zoo.
I was so much less than 29 when that pardon came through, so I could be misremembering any or all of it.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (EXyHK)
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@71 you're correct about no consequences, but the actions taken without Biden signing off or on would be null and void.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (Ry3Y5)
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The Blade on ... blades.
There are cooks and chefs and hunters and maybe psychotic murderers here. So maybe this will interest them. I'm a fan of very high quality kitchen knives. I'm not gonna get into a debate over which brand is best, because you might as well tell a dude his wife's an oinker.
But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
The CS blade really makes a difference.
There are cooks and chefs and hunters and maybe psychotic murderers here. So maybe this will interest them. I'm a fan of very high quality kitchen knives. I'm not gonna get into a debate over which brand is best, because you might as well tell a dude his wife's an oinker.
But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
The CS blade really makes a difference.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)
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79 Fauci is the worst, most evil person in government in the last 50 years. Fight me
Please please make his pardon null and void
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (5MZNC)
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I bet there's a Todd in the Medicare office who has delighted in specific pain he can cause old, Republican voters.
Please please make his pardon null and void
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (5MZNC)
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I bet there's a Todd in the Medicare office who has delighted in specific pain he can cause old, Republican voters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
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So how's the fake cancer diagnosis doing?
LEAVE POOR JOE ALONE
LEAVE POOR JOE ALONE
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (UjdFS)
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80 Why are so many prominent dems silent about this issue?
Because it's ridiculous and no evidence will be found. i'm not sure hyping it up would help Biden. Let it fail on it's own. With the help of some good lawyers.
the more that they attempt to do so the more people will assume they are lying. In the end it just serves no purpose except to feed the MAGA trolls even more so it's better to cut off their food supply by ignoring it.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at Jul
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It's funny because the story is Biden aides admitted to wrongdoing.
Because it's ridiculous and no evidence will be found. i'm not sure hyping it up would help Biden. Let it fail on it's own. With the help of some good lawyers.
the more that they attempt to do so the more people will assume they are lying. In the end it just serves no purpose except to feed the MAGA trolls even more so it's better to cut off their food supply by ignoring it.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at Jul
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It's funny because the story is Biden aides admitted to wrongdoing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:38 PM (GBKbO)
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If we’re using the new and improved Epstein doctrine of “it’s in the past who cares”, then why is this a thing? It’s in the past. Who cares.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 12:38 PM (ImXfC)
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Drew Holden
@DrewHolden360
I am begging the New York Times and the rest of the media to, for one brief moment, consider the possibility that a Democratic elected official could be not telling them the truth.
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"Well, I never ...
HOW DARE YOU, SIR!!!!
Have you noshame shrooms????"
Drew Holden
@DrewHolden360
I am begging the New York Times and the rest of the media to, for one brief moment, consider the possibility that a Democratic elected official could be not telling them the truth.
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"Well, I never ...
HOW DARE YOU, SIR!!!!
Have you no
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 12:38 PM (RW1OD)
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@71
>>So what are the consequences for staffers using the autopen to write pardons and executive orders? None.
Fraud for one.
A highly motivated prosecutor can conjure up any manner of novel criminal theories.
Apparently all of the highly motivated prosecutors quit.
>>So what are the consequences for staffers using the autopen to write pardons and executive orders? None.
Fraud for one.
A highly motivated prosecutor can conjure up any manner of novel criminal theories.
Apparently all of the highly motivated prosecutors quit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:38 PM (XV/Pl)
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If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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All sound and fury making no actual points whatsoever.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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All sound and fury making no actual points whatsoever.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:39 PM (tT6L1)
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83 The Blade on ... blades.
There are cooks and chefs and hunters and maybe psychotic murderers here. So maybe this will interest them. I'm a fan of very high quality kitchen knives. I'm not gonna get into a debate over which brand is best, because you might as well tell a dude his wife's an oinker.
But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
The CS blade really makes a difference.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)
Shun blades are top of the line. If I were to only own one kitchen knife it would be a Shun. (I haven't compared carbon vs premier though)
There are cooks and chefs and hunters and maybe psychotic murderers here. So maybe this will interest them. I'm a fan of very high quality kitchen knives. I'm not gonna get into a debate over which brand is best, because you might as well tell a dude his wife's an oinker.
But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
The CS blade really makes a difference.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)
Shun blades are top of the line. If I were to only own one kitchen knife it would be a Shun. (I haven't compared carbon vs premier though)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:39 PM (xcxpd)
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90 If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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All sound and fury making no actual points whatsoever.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:39 PM (tT6L1)
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Trump has forgotten more American history than these people ever learned.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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All sound and fury making no actual points whatsoever.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:39 PM (tT6L1)
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Trump has forgotten more American history than these people ever learned.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)
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Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw as…routine
This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Afternoon Ace. Someone who got one of Biden's "pardons" will have to face prosecution for this to be sorted out. Say an aggressive Federal prosecutor decides to prosecute Fauci. Fauci's attorneys would have to raise the pardon as a bar to prosecution. The prosecutor would have to demonstrate that Biden didn't sign them so no pardon. Will be interested to watch
Posted by: Smell the Glove
It would be too difficult to prosecute someone that way. The government already has too many irons in the fire. Wouldn't be a judicious use of government resources.
/s
Posted by: Smell the Glove
It would be too difficult to prosecute someone that way. The government already has too many irons in the fire. Wouldn't be a judicious use of government resources.
/s
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (+bLMA)
Posted by: a turnip at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (UjdFS)
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But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
IIRC, though, they are more brittle, and quicker to chip.
IIRC, though, they are more brittle, and quicker to chip.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (Riz8t)
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Joe's signing pardons. More crayons!
Posted by: huerfano
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AutoCrayon really eats them up.
Posted by: wth
Pfft. Piker.
-- White House Marine guards
Posted by: huerfano
......
AutoCrayon really eats them up.
Posted by: wth
Pfft. Piker.
-- White House Marine guards
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (77rzZ)
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I refuse to be willowed:
According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
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There there was the 11th hour transfer of 11 Yemeni Gitmo prisoners to Oman just before Trump took office. I'll wager the autopen was used on that as well, and Biden had no idea.
Keep in mind that it was done right as the New Orleans terrorist attack took place, and in 2023, a bi-partisan vote in Congress said NOT to transfer them anywhere.
Keep in mind that it was done right as the New Orleans terrorist attack took place, and in 2023, a bi-partisan vote in Congress said NOT to transfer them anywhere.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dIske)
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35. So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll bet he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
🙋♀️ Beau?
The J-6 Select Committee & related were certainly a stretch.
>Raskin, Dunn react to surprise pardons
From Maryland Matters
Among those receiving preemptive pardons were Maryland residents Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-8th), who served on the Jan. 6 committee, and former U.S. Capitol Police Office Harry Dunn, who testified before the panel about that day. Both said they were saddened by the fact that President Joe Biden felt the need to issue the pardons. "I wish this pardon weren't necessary, but unfortunately, the political climate we are in now has made the need for one somewhat of a reality," Dunn told CBS News. "I, like all of the other public servants, was just doing my job and upholding my oath, and I will always honor that." Raskin told NPR that he was not sure a pardon could be accepted or denied once issued, but that his role on the committee was legal and appropriate and is protected from prosecution. But, like Dunn, he said, "It's a sign of our strange times ..."
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
🙋♀️ Beau?
The J-6 Select Committee & related were certainly a stretch.
>Raskin, Dunn react to surprise pardons
From Maryland Matters
Among those receiving preemptive pardons were Maryland residents Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-8th), who served on the Jan. 6 committee, and former U.S. Capitol Police Office Harry Dunn, who testified before the panel about that day. Both said they were saddened by the fact that President Joe Biden felt the need to issue the pardons. "I wish this pardon weren't necessary, but unfortunately, the political climate we are in now has made the need for one somewhat of a reality," Dunn told CBS News. "I, like all of the other public servants, was just doing my job and upholding my oath, and I will always honor that." Raskin told NPR that he was not sure a pardon could be accepted or denied once issued, but that his role on the committee was legal and appropriate and is protected from prosecution. But, like Dunn, he said, "It's a sign of our strange times ..."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (NFX2v)
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MVP.
President Trump Points Out Red Sox Winning Streak After Oval Office Visit: “Haven’t Lost Since They Saw Me”
President Trump Points Out Red Sox Winning Streak After Oval Office Visit: “Haven’t Lost Since They Saw Me”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (L/fGl)
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Oh, yeah, and...get rid of the Autopen.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (vd6bO)
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This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (ImXfC)
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (77rzZ)
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This could easily be included in a conspiracy charge since these pardons were done to help propogate the conspiracy against Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (viF8m)
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"If we’re using the new and improved Epstein doctrine of “it’s in the past who cares”, then why is this a thing? It’s in the past. Who cares."
It's different because shut up, they explained.
It's different because shut up, they explained.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (kxF1Y)
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What needs to happen is Trump writes an EO invalidating all of the suspect pardons and then let SCOTUS sort it out.
And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
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Shun blades are top of the line. If I were to only own one kitchen knife it would be a Shun. (I haven't compared carbon vs premier though)
Carbide knives are unbelievably sharp. I got a carbide knife once as a present, and stupidly used it to cut cheese (heh, he said cut cheese hehehe), whereupon a big chunk of the blade shattered.
Carbide knives are unbelievably sharp. I got a carbide knife once as a present, and stupidly used it to cut cheese (heh, he said cut cheese hehehe), whereupon a big chunk of the blade shattered.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t)
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Was Elmo really hacked or was he out drinking again with confirmed bachelors and Lindsey Graham supporters, Bert and Ernie?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (TGPs7)
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When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Qr870)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
Wow, she looks great even handling a shovel.
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
Wow, she looks great even handling a shovel.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (77rzZ)
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111 When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
That should be SOP.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
That should be SOP.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (+bLMA)
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"Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw as…routine”
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If routine means "first time a mass pardon has happened without specific Presidential approval in American history", then, yes, routine.
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If routine means "first time a mass pardon has happened without specific Presidential approval in American history", then, yes, routine.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (LkicY)
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I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
True, and since most of them had never worked in the executive before, they might not have even known better.
True, and since most of them had never worked in the executive before, they might not have even known better.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (dfIr7)
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111 When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
Don't know, but it is time for him to pass on. So let it be written, so let it be signed - by hand.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
Don't know, but it is time for him to pass on. So let it be written, so let it be signed - by hand.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (vd6bO)
119
Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Posted by: Sharon
Not the main problem. The problem is the pardons signed without the conscience act by the executive. It's akin to a lawyer signing off on a bunch of stock trades on behalf of a senile client.
Posted by: Sharon
Not the main problem. The problem is the pardons signed without the conscience act by the executive. It's akin to a lawyer signing off on a bunch of stock trades on behalf of a senile client.
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (mlg/3)
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111 When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
no one knows. His birth certificate is clearly fake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
no one knows. His birth certificate is clearly fake.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (VoAdT)
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And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
As it should be?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
As it should be?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (0eaVi)
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>If we’re using the new and improved Epstein doctrine of “it’s in the past who cares”, then why is this a thing? It’s in the past. Who cares.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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because the person we were told was the President, wasn't actually the President.
It's... kind of a big deal.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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because the person we were told was the President, wasn't actually the President.
It's... kind of a big deal.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (AOsQT)
123
When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
His aunt, Palm Pilot, liked to be fingered.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
His aunt, Palm Pilot, liked to be fingered.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (+bLMA)
124
What a ho
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Qr870)
Obviously a shovel. Get your tools right.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Qr870)
Obviously a shovel. Get your tools right.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (TJLr1)
125
President Mush Brain was right there in WH when most of the pardons were produced.
Why not just sign them
Why not just sign them
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (tm0oK)
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103 This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
That ^
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
That ^
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (NFX2v)
127
If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
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The chances of Biden saying all that, with any clarity whatsoever, before the heat death of the universe is practically nil.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison
The chances of Biden saying all that, with any clarity whatsoever, before the heat death of the universe is practically nil.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (mWFkF)
128
Hmm, EO the pardons out of existence due to Joe not knowing what year it was, let alone day.
Then let those with the pardons appear in court, paying very expensive lawyers to handle their case.
Let the process wend its way through the court system for years.
Watch each and everyone of them spending a couple of million on defense lawyers, out of their own pocket. (I don't see any billionaires wanting to help them out simply because there's nothing in it for them)
Then let those with the pardons appear in court, paying very expensive lawyers to handle their case.
Let the process wend its way through the court system for years.
Watch each and everyone of them spending a couple of million on defense lawyers, out of their own pocket. (I don't see any billionaires wanting to help them out simply because there's nothing in it for them)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (tT6L1)
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If you're signing so many pardons that you need an autopen to do it, then maybe you should question the whole process? And if you're just signing a blanket pardon for a large list of people, then why would you need an autopen? Just wait for the final list, and provide your signature that one time.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (7aURE)
130
@108
>>And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
That would be a positive outcome.
In fact, the Trump administration could draft rules surrounding the signing of pardons by the Unitary Executive, this would not have legal or constitutional effect but it would have institutional weight.
And at the end of the day, that's the best outcome.
>>And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
That would be a positive outcome.
In fact, the Trump administration could draft rules surrounding the signing of pardons by the Unitary Executive, this would not have legal or constitutional effect but it would have institutional weight.
And at the end of the day, that's the best outcome.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (XV/Pl)
131
That should be SOP.
It always was up until the Obama administration, when he used it to sign an extension to the Patriot Act. That was the first time any president ever did so with an official document as far as I can find in my research.
It always was up until the Obama administration, when he used it to sign an extension to the Patriot Act. That was the first time any president ever did so with an official document as far as I can find in my research.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (dfIr7)
132
"Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
Biden couldn't string that bullshit together in 30 takes with post production editing.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
Biden couldn't string that bullshit together in 30 takes with post production editing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (lPvx2)
133
I'm curious as to what the "class" descriptor would have been to get such a large, but still not really all that large, number of matches out of the entire federal prison system....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (VoAdT)
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132 "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
Biden couldn't string that bullshit together in 30 takes with post production editing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (lPvx2)
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He couldn't have done it 40 years ago at the Clarence Thomas hearings.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
Biden couldn't string that bullshit together in 30 takes with post production editing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (lPvx2)
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He couldn't have done it 40 years ago at the Clarence Thomas hearings.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (GBKbO)
135
Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Posted by: Sharon
Not the main problem. The problem is the pardons signed without the conscience act by the executive. It's akin to a lawyer signing off on a bunch of stock trades on behalf of a senile client.
Posted by: every libertarian
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I agree with that. Not signing individually for each person within a categorical pardon has to have happened before. Again, ie, Carter and the draft dodgers.
The real issue remains whether he had capacity to issue any pardon.
Posted by: Sharon
Not the main problem. The problem is the pardons signed without the conscience act by the executive. It's akin to a lawyer signing off on a bunch of stock trades on behalf of a senile client.
Posted by: every libertarian
___________
I agree with that. Not signing individually for each person within a categorical pardon has to have happened before. Again, ie, Carter and the draft dodgers.
The real issue remains whether he had capacity to issue any pardon.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (p16cu)
136
This is at least similar, if not entirely related. But that doesn't mean if Trump says move on it's time to move on. That's insanity. He's not my boss.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
Today we're talking about former presidents pardons with autopens. A story that will go absolutely nowhere, since it's impossible to prove that Biden didn't know what he was signing, and Biden says he did know. There's no wet ink requirement in the Constitution, and no court has ruled Biden mentally incompetent, so he is able to enter in to contracts and sign orders, stupid as they may be and braindead as Biden may be.
Epstein was a few months ago. It's time to move on. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
Today we're talking about former presidents pardons with autopens. A story that will go absolutely nowhere, since it's impossible to prove that Biden didn't know what he was signing, and Biden says he did know. There's no wet ink requirement in the Constitution, and no court has ruled Biden mentally incompetent, so he is able to enter in to contracts and sign orders, stupid as they may be and braindead as Biden may be.
Epstein was a few months ago. It's time to move on. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (uCjyK)
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144 111 When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
otto partes > otto pilot > otto pen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
otto partes > otto pilot > otto pen
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (v3pYe)
138
Shun blades are top of the line. If I were to only own one kitchen knife it would be a Shun. (I haven't compared carbon vs premier though)
Carbide knives are unbelievably sharp. I got a carbide knife once as a present, and stupidly used it to cut cheese (heh, he said cut cheese hehehe), whereupon a big chunk of the blade shattered.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t)
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The Shun version has a carbon blade wrapped in stainless steel so just the cutting edge is exposed. Supposedly, that strengthens the overall blade. We'll see. So issues so far.
Carbide knives are unbelievably sharp. I got a carbide knife once as a present, and stupidly used it to cut cheese (heh, he said cut cheese hehehe), whereupon a big chunk of the blade shattered.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t)
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The Shun version has a carbon blade wrapped in stainless steel so just the cutting edge is exposed. Supposedly, that strengthens the overall blade. We'll see. So issues so far.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (iFTx/)
139
Then let those with the pardons appear in court, paying very expensive lawyers to handle their case.
Let the process wend its way through the court system for years.
Watch each and everyone of them spending a couple of million on defense lawyers, out of their own pocket. (I don't see any billionaires wanting to help them out simply because there's nothing in it for them)
Posted by: blake
Make the process the punishment. Oh, that's right. The right isn't allowed to do that. Only the left.
Let the process wend its way through the court system for years.
Watch each and everyone of them spending a couple of million on defense lawyers, out of their own pocket. (I don't see any billionaires wanting to help them out simply because there's nothing in it for them)
Posted by: blake
Make the process the punishment. Oh, that's right. The right isn't allowed to do that. Only the left.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (+bLMA)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (xcxpd)
141
The chances of Biden saying all that, with any clarity whatsoever, before the heat death of the universe is practically nil.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
He couldn't have said it in his prime. Poor guy has a stutter, you know....
And he's retarded.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
He couldn't have said it in his prime. Poor guy has a stutter, you know....
And he's retarded.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (JCZqz)
142
I didn’t even know there was an autopen until mushbrains was out of the WH. I naively assumed presidents always applied their John Hancock manually the way Smith Barney makes money: the old fashioned way
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (WnEm5)
143
The Atlantic, Politics
When a Robot Signs a Bill: A Brief History of the Autopen, Jan. 3, 2013
"Obama was the first to do so, signing an extension of the PATRIOT Act via autopen while in Europe."
When a Robot Signs a Bill: A Brief History of the Autopen, Jan. 3, 2013
"Obama was the first to do so, signing an extension of the PATRIOT Act via autopen while in Europe."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (NFX2v)
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135 The real issue remains whether he had capacity to issue any pardon.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (p16cu)
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People want this to be a problem.
But it's not a problem.
There's no constitutional requirement that the president by mentally cogent, only that it be the president's own signature. Contract law does not apply to presidential pardons, a power that is plenary and resides in the president himself.
No, the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (p16cu)
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People want this to be a problem.
But it's not a problem.
There's no constitutional requirement that the president by mentally cogent, only that it be the president's own signature. Contract law does not apply to presidential pardons, a power that is plenary and resides in the president himself.
No, the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
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49 Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (t/2Uw)
Didn't Carter pardon all the Vietnam era draft dodgers?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (t/2Uw)
Didn't Carter pardon all the Vietnam era draft dodgers?
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (R256O)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
147
When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
I don't know, but iirc he was Ang N. Chad's running mate in the 2000 election.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
I don't know, but iirc he was Ang N. Chad's running mate in the 2000 election.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (mWFkF)
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146
The important thing we need to ask though, how does this impact blacks.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
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"Get back on the plantation!"
-the trannies
The important thing we need to ask though, how does this impact blacks.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
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"Get back on the plantation!"
-the trannies
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
149
VOTE VANCE!
Posted by: Sid at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (ukeFl)
150
While I have never thought the president need personally and physically sign every individual pardon, I think the president must at least personally approve each name to be pardoned. Biden didn't do that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
That's not accurate.
"Draft dodgers" were pardoned as a class.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
That's not accurate.
"Draft dodgers" were pardoned as a class.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (fCgdX)
151
Ah, that troll I know and recognize.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
152
July 14, 1918
Lt. Quentin Roosevelt of the Army Air Service was killed in action during a dog fight with German fighters. He was hit in the head with two bullets.
He was not yet 21 when he died.
Lt. Quentin Roosevelt of the Army Air Service was killed in action during a dog fight with German fighters. He was hit in the head with two bullets.
He was not yet 21 when he died.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (6iQ9H)
153
151 Ah, that troll I know and recognize.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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He just wants to vote for Vance.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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He just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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70 calling President Trump and other Republicans "liars" for claiming his aides had used festive little hats without his authorization.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and little hats at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (3BDA1)
You have me wanting to steal Speedy Gonzales's sombrero.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and little hats at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (3BDA1)
You have me wanting to steal Speedy Gonzales's sombrero.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (R256O)
155
New York Magazine@NYMag
Donald Trump’s trade war and threats to absorb Canada as a U.S. state have fueled a fiery resistance up north. Americans don’t know the half of it.
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Dude, we're pointing and laughing as hard as we can.
Donald Trump’s trade war and threats to absorb Canada as a U.S. state have fueled a fiery resistance up north. Americans don’t know the half of it.
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Dude, we're pointing and laughing as hard as we can.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)
156
No, the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Agreed. I'm referring solely to the categorical pardons, and that each name be approved.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Agreed. I'm referring solely to the categorical pardons, and that each name be approved.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (p16cu)
157
Dude, you can't even remember how sex works.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)
In fairness to Biden, he is married.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)
In fairness to Biden, he is married.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (ExV1e)
158
No, the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
Is it corrupt and shitty? Yes. But I don't see how anyone proves Biden DIDN'T authorize those pardons, especially when he says he did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
Is it corrupt and shitty? Yes. But I don't see how anyone proves Biden DIDN'T authorize those pardons, especially when he says he did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (uCjyK)
159
Another 'gift' of James Earl Carter, the pardoning of the draft dodgers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (6iQ9H)
160
The important thing we need to ask though, how does this impact blacks.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
I'll need to consult Billy Paul...
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
I'll need to consult Billy Paul...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (xcxpd)
161
"I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday...
An obvious but unprovable lie. Nothing will come of it. The System notches another win.
An obvious but unprovable lie. Nothing will come of it. The System notches another win.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (/y8xj)
162
Who you going to believe, noted truth teller Joe Biden or your own eyes?
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (YwEeS)
163
Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw as…routine
This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
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I wonder if they ever gave FJB a stack of blank paperwork, told him to sign them, and then filled out the rest of the details later.
This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
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I wonder if they ever gave FJB a stack of blank paperwork, told him to sign them, and then filled out the rest of the details later.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (7fElN)
164
I've forgotten, but did the reviews of past practice determine if any President in history had authorized autopen use for signing a pardon?
Even once?
Even once?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (NIwpn)
165
153 151 Ah, that troll I know and recognize.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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He just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
Me too, in time.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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He just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
Me too, in time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (xcxpd)
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The Autopen is the oldest, most commonly used signing machine. It has been used by universities, government agencies, and other institutions for more than 60 years. The Autopen machines provide high quality signature replication with any common pen, pencil, or marker. Their reliability is well established and the simple design combined with our telephone support results in minimum service costs.
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The Autopen is the oldest, most commonly used signing machine. It has been used by universities, government agencies, and other institutions for more than 60 years. The Autopen machines provide high quality signature replication with any common pen, pencil, or marker. Their reliability is well established and the simple design combined with our telephone support results in minimum service costs.
https://damilic.com/autopen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (63Dwl)
167
And, the idea that presidents are intimately familiar with any judicial nominee outside of the couple of weeks before nominating one for SCOTUS seems...misplaced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer
Some powers may be delegated.
Others not so much.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer
Some powers may be delegated.
Others not so much.
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (tm0oK)
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (DoOmQ)
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The Founders never thought someone as nakedly corrupt as Biden could become President.
Posted by: blaster at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (RoO7G)
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67
"Here's the Fauci pardon, Mr. President."
"What?"
"Just say we can run this through the autopen, sir. It's the Fauci pardon."
"Huh?"
"Just say yes, sir."
"Yes, sir."
This would be "doing it right," by the way.
just take the standard requisition form, strike out where it says "machine gun" and write in "pardon".
"Here's the Fauci pardon, Mr. President."
"What?"
"Just say we can run this through the autopen, sir. It's the Fauci pardon."
"Huh?"
"Just say yes, sir."
"Yes, sir."
This would be "doing it right," by the way.
just take the standard requisition form, strike out where it says "machine gun" and write in "pardon".
Posted by: radar o'riley at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (v3pYe)
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How do we know it really was Joey Bidet on the phone?
After all we have an AI bot using a recreation of James Earl Jone's voice for Darth Vader in a video game.
It was Otto Voice.
After all we have an AI bot using a recreation of James Earl Jone's voice for Darth Vader in a video game.
It was Otto Voice.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (6iQ9H)
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I wonder if they ever gave FJB a stack of blank paperwork, told him to sign them, and then filled out the rest of the details later.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (7fElN)
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I think this is truly a "to ask is to answer" type question.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (7fElN)
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I think this is truly a "to ask is to answer" type question.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (tT6L1)
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While I have never thought the president need personally and physically sign every individual pardon, I think the president must at least personally approve each name to be pardoned. Biden didn't do that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
That's not accurate.
"Draft dodgers" were pardoned as a class.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (fCgdX)
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True, but "class pardons" are controversial and possibly not legal. They were never challenged. But even Carter's class pardon was the result of him agreeing to the specific class. That's not what happened with Biden. He didn't pardon a class. He pardoned names -- names that he admits he didn't personally review or approve. That's more problematic than what Carter did.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
That's not accurate.
"Draft dodgers" were pardoned as a class.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (fCgdX)
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True, but "class pardons" are controversial and possibly not legal. They were never challenged. But even Carter's class pardon was the result of him agreeing to the specific class. That's not what happened with Biden. He didn't pardon a class. He pardoned names -- names that he admits he didn't personally review or approve. That's more problematic than what Carter did.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
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The Autopen is the oldest, most commonly used signing machine. It has been used by universities, government agencies, and other institutions for more than 60 years. The Autopen machines provide high quality signature replication with any common pen, pencil, or marker. Their reliability is well established and the simple design combined with our telephone support results in minimum service costs.
https://damilic.com/autopen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (63Dwl)
I'm sure that's all true. Now, let's get rid of it.
https://damilic.com/autopen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (63Dwl)
I'm sure that's all true. Now, let's get rid of it.
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (vd6bO)
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (DoOmQ)
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JoePedo was too busy to sign those pardons. He was in a frenzy spendi.... ah giving away taxpayer money and destroying the country. A man can only do so much in the 2-3 hours of work he did a week.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (17s+e)
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159 Another 'gift' of James Earl Carter, the pardoning of the draft dodgers.
draft giants > draft dodgers
draft giants > draft dodgers
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (g47mK)
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Surprising absolutely nobody.
Russia set to abandon refurbishment project and decommission their sole aircraft carrier, the world’s largest mobile bonfire, RFS Admiral Kuznetsov which has not sailed since 2017.
Due to lack of funding, industrial problems and shortage of people - all largely consequence of Putins war in Ukraine.
https://is.gd/PONYm5
Russia set to abandon refurbishment project and decommission their sole aircraft carrier, the world’s largest mobile bonfire, RFS Admiral Kuznetsov which has not sailed since 2017.
Due to lack of funding, industrial problems and shortage of people - all largely consequence of Putins war in Ukraine.
https://is.gd/PONYm5
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (L/fGl)
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the old "signed off on the standards" ploy!
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (g47mK)
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The CS blade really makes a difference.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM
I have one carbon steel Sabatier that I got from my grandmother. I don't use it much, because I prefer German profile to French profile, but I can put an edge on that thing you can shave with.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM
I have one carbon steel Sabatier that I got from my grandmother. I don't use it much, because I prefer German profile to French profile, but I can put an edge on that thing you can shave with.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (dPfyF)
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True, but "class pardons" are controversial and possibly not legal. They were never challenged. But even Carter's class pardon was the result of him agreeing to the specific class. That's not what happened with Biden. He didn't pardon a class. He pardoned names -- names that he admits he didn't personally review or approve. That's more problematic than what Carter did.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Not so sure. Are not convicted possibly charged felons a class? And we all know they were democrats, is that not a class?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Not so sure. Are not convicted possibly charged felons a class? And we all know they were democrats, is that not a class?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (17s+e)
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the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Everyone along the line of authority will be saying "I got it from X and just forwarded it." That was Neera Tanden's story, and it will be up and down, always ending at Biden, who has already given his answer. Maybe this whole presidential pardon habit needs a second look.
the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Everyone along the line of authority will be saying "I got it from X and just forwarded it." That was Neera Tanden's story, and it will be up and down, always ending at Biden, who has already given his answer. Maybe this whole presidential pardon habit needs a second look.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (xp7+v)
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158 And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
Is it corrupt and shitty? Yes. But I don't see how anyone proves Biden DIDN'T authorize those pardons, especially when he says he did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (uCjyK)
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Which bumps up against the aides' own admissions that they changed things without his knowledge.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
Is it corrupt and shitty? Yes. But I don't see how anyone proves Biden DIDN'T authorize those pardons, especially when he says he did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (uCjyK)
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Which bumps up against the aides' own admissions that they changed things without his knowledge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
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He signed off on nothing, they probably asked him if he wanted ice cream while he was watching Matlock, the answer of course being yes.
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (YwEeS)
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And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
Yeah but "authorized" is not sufficient. He has to carry them out, not some underling.
But it doesn't matter, nothing will be done about this except hopefully to make an official system by which nobody can legally do it again.
Yeah but "authorized" is not sufficient. He has to carry them out, not some underling.
But it doesn't matter, nothing will be done about this except hopefully to make an official system by which nobody can legally do it again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (dfIr7)
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Aaaaand good morning, happy Monday, and good to see you, ace!
Aaaaand good morning, happy Monday, and good to see you, ace!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (xp7+v)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ...
It's a shovel, dude.
P.S. Nice gardening shoes.
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ...
It's a shovel, dude.
P.S. Nice gardening shoes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (L/fGl)
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180 When a Robot Signs a Bill
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Damn robots!
https://is.gd/pqiF3a
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (L/fGl)
Yes, but can it do that with its pants halfway down its thighs while holding an HDTV?
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Damn robots!
https://is.gd/pqiF3a
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (L/fGl)
Yes, but can it do that with its pants halfway down its thighs while holding an HDTV?
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (vd6bO)
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Trump could have a website 'The Daily Epstein' , just leak a little every day.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (DoOmQ)
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (poXs5)
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"If I were President Biden..."
LOL
DUmmies and their fan fiction.
If I were King of the forest...
"If I were President Biden..."
LOL
DUmmies and their fan fiction.
If I were King of the forest...
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (63Dwl)
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He signed off on nothing, they probably asked him if he wanted ice cream while he was watching Matlock, the answer of course being yes.
He was caught literally on camera saying "I don't even know what I am signing"
He was caught literally on camera saying "I don't even know what I am signing"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (dfIr7)
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Yeah about that "phone interview" can we hear it?
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (YwEeS)
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Grok claims the practice of allowing pardons to be signed by autopen has been accepted for decades, except it also says no verified use of an autopen for a pardon has been discovered.
I believe that sounds like this reported Biden Junta practice is the first verified instance of a presidential pardon signed by autopen.
I believe that sounds like this reported Biden Junta practice is the first verified instance of a presidential pardon signed by autopen.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (3odGr)
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Fauci is the worst, most evil person in government in the last 50 years. Fight me
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I'd still say Hillary, and then perhaps "Joe Biden" (the figurehead for whatever we just spent 4 years suffering under), and then Joe Biden (the evil bastard that he was before becoming the senile president).
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I'd still say Hillary, and then perhaps "Joe Biden" (the figurehead for whatever we just spent 4 years suffering under), and then Joe Biden (the evil bastard that he was before becoming the senile president).
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (TN0g+)
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Russia set to abandon refurbishment project and decommission their sole aircraft carrier, the world’s largest mobile bonfire, RFS Admiral Kuznetsov which has not sailed since 2017.
Due to lack of funding, industrial problems and shortage of people - all largely consequence of Putins war in Ukraine.
https://is.gd/PONYm5
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (Riz8t)
Bummer. Also, had nothing to do with Ukraine. The last time the Kuznetsov set out to sea, it was accompanied by a tow boat, most of the toilets didn't flush due to water issues, and when it sailed past Britain, it looked like it might have been burning peat moss for fuel with the amount of angry black smoke belching out of it.
It was a shitty ship built while the USSR was collapsing, and no one maintained it and it had problems from day one. The sister ship ended up in China, and had so many issues they just used it as a training ship.
Due to lack of funding, industrial problems and shortage of people - all largely consequence of Putins war in Ukraine.
https://is.gd/PONYm5
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (Riz8t)
Bummer. Also, had nothing to do with Ukraine. The last time the Kuznetsov set out to sea, it was accompanied by a tow boat, most of the toilets didn't flush due to water issues, and when it sailed past Britain, it looked like it might have been burning peat moss for fuel with the amount of angry black smoke belching out of it.
It was a shitty ship built while the USSR was collapsing, and no one maintained it and it had problems from day one. The sister ship ended up in China, and had so many issues they just used it as a training ship.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (uCjyK)
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"I see no problem with his intellect."
-Jasmine Crockett
Of course you wouldn't because yours makes Biden look like a rocket scientist.
-Jasmine Crockett
Of course you wouldn't because yours makes Biden look like a rocket scientist.
Posted by: Mike B at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Tvrrp)
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196 Grok claims the practice of allowing pardons to be signed by autopen has been accepted for decades, except it also says no verified use of an autopen for a pardon has been discovered.
I believe that sounds like this reported Biden Junta practice is the first verified instance of a presidential pardon signed by autopen.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (3odGr)
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The first use of autopen by a president for a government document was under Obama. Not even 2 decades, and that wasn't even a pardon.
AI is stupid because it's not actually intelligence at all.
I believe that sounds like this reported Biden Junta practice is the first verified instance of a presidential pardon signed by autopen.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (3odGr)
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The first use of autopen by a president for a government document was under Obama. Not even 2 decades, and that wasn't even a pardon.
AI is stupid because it's not actually intelligence at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
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He didn't pardon a class. He pardoned names -- names that he admits he didn't personally review or approve. That's more problematic than what Carter did.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
Completely agree. I was just pointing out that a president doesn't have to (at least functionally doesn't have to) approve each individual name in every case.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
Completely agree. I was just pointing out that a president doesn't have to (at least functionally doesn't have to) approve each individual name in every case.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (fCgdX)
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And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
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But, he didn't say "my word as a biden."
If he had said that, then you could take it to the bank.
But by not saying it, I'm seeing a lot of room for doubt.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
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But, he didn't say "my word as a biden."
If he had said that, then you could take it to the bank.
But by not saying it, I'm seeing a lot of room for doubt.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Lo97M)
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This is actual treason
Posted by: Jupiter no rings mofo at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (bCQL5)
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I'm sure that's all true. Now, let's get rid of it.
I am okay with the president using one to sign stuff like those form letters they send out to kids, but not anything official.
I am okay with the president using one to sign stuff like those form letters they send out to kids, but not anything official.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (dfIr7)
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181 the old "signed off on the standards" ploy!
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (g47mK)
Can we see the "standards" with a signature?
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (g47mK)
Can we see the "standards" with a signature?
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 01:01 PM (lPvx2)
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I don't like Mondays
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:01 PM (+qU29)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
*******
She looks like she knows where the bodies are buried.
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
*******
She looks like she knows where the bodies are buried.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:01 PM (poXs5)
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Russia's GDP is less than NYS, the fact that they can field an army at all is a major miracle, the fact they don't have a single sea worthy ACC is not surprising.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (XV/Pl)
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Bummer. Also, had nothing to do with Ukraine. The last time the Kuznetsov set out to sea, it was accompanied by a tow boat, most of the toilets didn't flush due to water issues, and when it sailed past Britain, it looked like it might have been burning peat moss for fuel with the amount of angry black smoke belching out of it.
We can disagree about the Ukraine part, but watching that thing at sea was hilarious. It looked like they were burning old tires.
We can disagree about the Ukraine part, but watching that thing at sea was hilarious. It looked like they were burning old tires.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (dfIr7)
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201 It's a shovel, dude.
P.S. Nice gardening shoes.
No, it's a half-moon edging tool.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
No, that's a normal shovel just at an angle...though I understand edging where Melania is concerned.
P.S. Nice gardening shoes.
No, it's a half-moon edging tool.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
No, that's a normal shovel just at an angle...though I understand edging where Melania is concerned.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (xcxpd)
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Which bumps up against the aides' own admissions that they changed things without his knowledge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)
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You bastards just won't listen!
CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (L/fGl)
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112 According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12: Un42 PM (Qr870)
I was kinda digging that picture.
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12: Un42 PM (Qr870)
I was kinda digging that picture.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 01:03 PM (R256O)
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No, it's a half-moon edging tool.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
No, that's a normal shovel just at an angle...though I understand edging where Melania is concerned.
Dang, you're correct. This is not my day.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
No, that's a normal shovel just at an angle...though I understand edging where Melania is concerned.
Dang, you're correct. This is not my day.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (Riz8t)
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gosh these shit pebbles are so good
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (NJLgD)
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If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
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A statement like that from someone whose mental faculties were in serious question at the time just might not pass muster in a court.
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
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A statement like that from someone whose mental faculties were in serious question at the time just might not pass muster in a court.
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (vd6bO)
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We can disagree about the Ukraine part, but watching that thing at sea was hilarious. It looked like they were burning old tires.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
That ship was well past it's useful life, well, basically from when it was built, but certainly from well before the Ukraine war. It was barely functional when they decided to try to bring it back in to full time status in the fleet in the late '90s / early '00s, and has become less functional since then.
But yes, the videos were cringeworthy to watch. Did not make the Russian navy look competent or tough or whatever it is they were going for.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
That ship was well past it's useful life, well, basically from when it was built, but certainly from well before the Ukraine war. It was barely functional when they decided to try to bring it back in to full time status in the fleet in the late '90s / early '00s, and has become less functional since then.
But yes, the videos were cringeworthy to watch. Did not make the Russian navy look competent or tough or whatever it is they were going for.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (uCjyK)
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Pardon Power by the President implies as the 1789 Constitution saw it. We know Jefferson had an autopen but did he use it for Presidential signatures? When was it first used?
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (DoOmQ)
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@207
>>I don't like Mondays
Actually, Thursdays are the worst.
Monday's is when you find out all of the sh*t that's gone wrong from late last week/weekend and you can work on it.
Thursdays is when you have to do labor and resource planning and all the complications that entails.
>>I don't like Mondays
Actually, Thursdays are the worst.
Monday's is when you find out all of the sh*t that's gone wrong from late last week/weekend and you can work on it.
Thursdays is when you have to do labor and resource planning and all the complications that entails.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (XV/Pl)
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That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
I think it takes more than just a general "I said it was cool for him to sign for me" for important documents; the more important the more stringent.
I think it takes more than just a general "I said it was cool for him to sign for me" for important documents; the more important the more stringent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (dfIr7)
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Heh, I watched the end of Cocaine Bear. The wife and I enjoyed it. We will have to watch the front of the movie now. This was Ray Liotta's last performance. Loved that guy.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (W3T6M)
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (vd6bO)
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Dear Drew Holden, THE PARTY IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
Posted by: The Party at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (Pce4l)
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A statement like that from someone whose mental faculties were in serious question at the time just might not pass muster in a court.
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (vd6bO)
It is very difficult to be declared incompetent by a court, and even moreso to be declared incompetent for something you did years / months ago.
As you can imagine, this comes up quite a bit in the probate world.
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (vd6bO)
It is very difficult to be declared incompetent by a court, and even moreso to be declared incompetent for something you did years / months ago.
As you can imagine, this comes up quite a bit in the probate world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (uCjyK)
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Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (NJLgD)
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Biden pardoned nearly 8000 people.
Stupid troll is stupid.
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Biden pardoned nearly 8000 people.
Stupid troll is stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
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My understanding is a aide doesn't get the Presidential right to make pardons
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
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The first use of autopen by a president for a government document was under Obama. Not even 2 decades, and that wasn't even a pardon.
AI is stupid because it's not actually intelligence at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
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That isn't accurate, claims the internet, which says 2005 was first recorded use of a modern autopen device, under Bush.
As far as AI goes it doesn't need to be intelligent to do a review of news stories about past practice, which is what it did here.
The first use of autopen by a president for a government document was under Obama. Not even 2 decades, and that wasn't even a pardon.
AI is stupid because it's not actually intelligence at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
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That isn't accurate, claims the internet, which says 2005 was first recorded use of a modern autopen device, under Bush.
As far as AI goes it doesn't need to be intelligent to do a review of news stories about past practice, which is what it did here.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (3odGr)
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Joe's autopen should have a built-in ""pill-rolling" tremor...
...to add to the illusion of authenticity.
...to add to the illusion of authenticity.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (poXs5)
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CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
Obviously because they haven't talked about enough or in dire enough terms. I'm sure they'll be correcting that real soon now.
Obviously because they haven't talked about enough or in dire enough terms. I'm sure they'll be correcting that real soon now.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (/y8xj)
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I think it all sort of gets to the idea of a bloated executive in general.
There's supposed to be A President. One person. They can hire advisors to do research and manage things and generally help out, but that one person should be calling all the shots.
But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
"Put together a list of people who fit this description so I can pardon them all."
"You take point on running negotiations between East Trashcanistan and Barehandedasswipeland, i've got other things to do."
"This is Bob. Everyone do what Bob says from now on."
There's supposed to be A President. One person. They can hire advisors to do research and manage things and generally help out, but that one person should be calling all the shots.
But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
"Put together a list of people who fit this description so I can pardon them all."
"You take point on running negotiations between East Trashcanistan and Barehandedasswipeland, i've got other things to do."
"This is Bob. Everyone do what Bob says from now on."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (VoAdT)
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Remember how they managed Obama with the checkboxes?
Three choices, the first and last being extreme but the middle, the one they wanted, was then comparably reasonable.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (JThEY)
remember the rumor that they tried to manage Trump the same way, and Trump's response was, "well, OK. A giant smoking crater is a positive outcome as far as I can see"
Three choices, the first and last being extreme but the middle, the one they wanted, was then comparably reasonable.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (JThEY)
remember the rumor that they tried to manage Trump the same way, and Trump's response was, "well, OK. A giant smoking crater is a positive outcome as far as I can see"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (D7oie)
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228 My understanding is a aide doesn't get the Presidential right to make pardons
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
You’re wrong. It says so, right there in the Constitution.
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
You’re wrong. It says so, right there in the Constitution.
Posted by: Some federal judge at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (Pce4l)
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And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
On camera. With someone, preferably the President, stating what it was that he was signing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
On camera. With someone, preferably the President, stating what it was that he was signing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (ExV1e)
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It is very difficult to be declared incompetent by a court, and even moreso to be declared incompetent for something you did years / months ago.
Probably impossible, barring an official admission by the doctor that he was incompetent in the past, which is likely why Biden's doctor is ducking a congressional subpoena.
Probably impossible, barring an official admission by the doctor that he was incompetent in the past, which is likely why Biden's doctor is ducking a congressional subpoena.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (dfIr7)
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229 That isn't accurate, claims the internet, which says 2005 was first recorded use of a modern autopen device, under Bush.
As far as AI goes it doesn't need to be intelligent to do a review of news stories about past practice, which is what it did here.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (3odGr)
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W didn't use the autopen to sign any government document.
His legal team explored the legality of it, but he never did it.
Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
As far as AI goes it doesn't need to be intelligent to do a review of news stories about past practice, which is what it did here.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (3odGr)
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W didn't use the autopen to sign any government document.
His legal team explored the legality of it, but he never did it.
Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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I think it takes more than just a general "I said it was cool for him to sign for me" for important documents; the more important the more stringent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (dfIr7)
Maybe it should work that way, but generally speaking it doesn't.
I don't know if there's any caselaw on this specific situation (governor or President delegating signing of a pardon to an underling), but I don't think a Court would create a whole new standard for this very rare and politically fraught of a situation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (dfIr7)
Maybe it should work that way, but generally speaking it doesn't.
I don't know if there's any caselaw on this specific situation (governor or President delegating signing of a pardon to an underling), but I don't think a Court would create a whole new standard for this very rare and politically fraught of a situation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (uCjyK)
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Call me crazy (many have) but I think the Preznit should literally, and by his own hand, sign the really important stuff.
I would allow the autopen for the Preznit's Christmas card list, post-it notes on the refrigerator, stuff like that.
I would allow the autopen for the Preznit's Christmas card list, post-it notes on the refrigerator, stuff like that.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (AOsQT)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
"Compost your enemies"
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
"Compost your enemies"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (D7oie)
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But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
Take the military point of view. You can delegate authority but you CANNOT delegate responsibility.
But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
Take the military point of view. You can delegate authority but you CANNOT delegate responsibility.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (Pce4l)
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Yup.
Yup.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (vd6bO)
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Da fuq?
Walmart recalls 850,000 stainless steel water bottles after lids "forcefully eject," blind two people
Walmart recalls 850,000 stainless steel water bottles after lids "forcefully eject," blind two people
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)
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Biden pardoned or gave clemency to far more than any other president. Most of the people Trump pardoned were J6ers and should never have been charged at all.
Bill Clinton 1993–2001 459
George W. Bush 2001–2009 200
Barack Obama 2009–2017 1,927
Donald Trump 2017–2021, 2025–present 1,700 Includes approximately 1,500 pardoned for January 6 attacks (which, as we all know, were utter BS)
Joe Biden 2021–2025 4,245
https://is.gd/T0jQAZ
Bill Clinton 1993–2001 459
George W. Bush 2001–2009 200
Barack Obama 2009–2017 1,927
Donald Trump 2017–2021, 2025–present 1,700 Includes approximately 1,500 pardoned for January 6 attacks (which, as we all know, were utter BS)
Joe Biden 2021–2025 4,245
https://is.gd/T0jQAZ
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (Riz8t)
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Writer's cramp shouldn't be a problem for the most powerful man in the world.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (AOsQT)
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If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)
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the 2005 DOJ guidance apparently requires contemporaneous written authorization to use the device, so I think you might be wrong in thinking an after-the-fact verbal statement would be enough.
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)
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the 2005 DOJ guidance apparently requires contemporaneous written authorization to use the device, so I think you might be wrong in thinking an after-the-fact verbal statement would be enough.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (3odGr)
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244 Joe Biden 2021–2025 4,245
https://is.gd/T0jQAZ
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (Riz8t)
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The Biden numbers are bigger than they appear.
This includes the classes of people we're talking about. Individualizing those takes it up to almost 8000.
https://is.gd/T0jQAZ
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (Riz8t)
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The Biden numbers are bigger than they appear.
This includes the classes of people we're talking about. Individualizing those takes it up to almost 8000.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)
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> If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
I've been saying this for a while on this site and others. We all know that if and when Biden says this, it's a bald faced lie, but that doesn't matter. It'll be the end of the case.
I've been saying this for a while on this site and others. We all know that if and when Biden says this, it's a bald faced lie, but that doesn't matter. It'll be the end of the case.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (lIio7)
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Biden pardoned nearly 8000 people.
Stupid troll is stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Stupid troll is stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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This would be "doing it right," by the way.
just take the standard requisition form, strike out where it says "machine gun" and write in "pardon".
Posted by: radar o'riley at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (v3pYe)
Lol. That must have been the last three years of his presidency.
Except in this case it's evil radar orielly
just take the standard requisition form, strike out where it says "machine gun" and write in "pardon".
Posted by: radar o'riley at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (v3pYe)
Lol. That must have been the last three years of his presidency.
Except in this case it's evil radar orielly
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (OA79/)
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That isn't accurate, claims the internet, which says 2005 was first recorded use of a modern autopen device, under Bush.
There's a critical difference here: Bush used the modern autopen to make a signature, but it was not on an official document. Obama was the first to use the autopen to sign an official document (signing a bill into law). Presidents back as far as Jefferson have used a version of the autopen to sign things, but not things like bills, pardons, executive orders, etc. For pretty obvious reasons.
There's a critical difference here: Bush used the modern autopen to make a signature, but it was not on an official document. Obama was the first to use the autopen to sign an official document (signing a bill into law). Presidents back as far as Jefferson have used a version of the autopen to sign things, but not things like bills, pardons, executive orders, etc. For pretty obvious reasons.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (dfIr7)
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Mondays are ok.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (21WNI)
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It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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Oh, I'd forgotten that wet dream. Hot topic for about 3 hours in mid-January.
It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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Oh, I'd forgotten that wet dream. Hot topic for about 3 hours in mid-January.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Da fuq?
Walmart recalls 850,000 stainless steel water bottles after lids "forcefully eject," blind two people
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)
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Were they drinking Mentos/Diet Coke cocktails at the time?
Walmart recalls 850,000 stainless steel water bottles after lids "forcefully eject," blind two people
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)
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Were they drinking Mentos/Diet Coke cocktails at the time?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (7fElN)
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Probably impossible, barring an official admission by the doctor that he was incompetent in the past, which is likely why Biden's doctor is ducking a congressional subpoena.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (dfIr7)
His personal doctor or personal lawyer getting on the stand saying "he was incompetent when he signed the pardons" would probably be at least somewhat persuasive, but even then, I don't think a court would undo those signatures, even if Biden was a nobody and the documents in question were for home equity loans or something else.
In the world of Wills, the standard for competence is something like the person understands they're making a will, they know generally what assets they have, and they can identify their closest heirs / family members.
It's a pretty low bar to be considered legally competent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (dfIr7)
His personal doctor or personal lawyer getting on the stand saying "he was incompetent when he signed the pardons" would probably be at least somewhat persuasive, but even then, I don't think a court would undo those signatures, even if Biden was a nobody and the documents in question were for home equity loans or something else.
In the world of Wills, the standard for competence is something like the person understands they're making a will, they know generally what assets they have, and they can identify their closest heirs / family members.
It's a pretty low bar to be considered legally competent.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)
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It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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There was only 1 autopen available. Else they might have.
It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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There was only 1 autopen available. Else they might have.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:12 PM (tT6L1)
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214 You bastards just won't listen!
CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (L/fGl)
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Temperatures have risen markedly in just the past 3-4 weeks.
CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (L/fGl)
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Temperatures have risen markedly in just the past 3-4 weeks.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 01:12 PM (2ap+5)
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235 And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
On camera. With someone, preferably the President, stating what it was that he was signing.
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...which would be a significant improvement even at that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
On camera. With someone, preferably the President, stating what it was that he was signing.
_-_-_
...which would be a significant improvement even at that.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:13 PM (vd6bO)
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So "autopen" now pretty much equates to a chop in imperial japan or china, then?
Whoever can get their hands on one has the full power of the emperor?
Neat.
Whoever can get their hands on one has the full power of the emperor?
Neat.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (VoAdT)
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Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
AI isn’t.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
AI isn’t.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (Pce4l)
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Here is how I see it. If the Constitution gives the president the power to do something, then he has to do it. Either he has to read and sign it personally, or he has to write it personally. He cannot delegate someone else to write and sign it with a general authorization because then the president is not doing it.
The Constitution does not permit the Executive Department to issue pardons any more than it does the department to sign legislation into law.
The Constitution does not permit the Executive Department to issue pardons any more than it does the department to sign legislation into law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (dfIr7)
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I've been saying this for a while on this site and others. We all know that if and when Biden says this, it's a bald faced lie, but that doesn't matter. It'll be the end of the case.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (lIio7)
Right. If he says "I authorized it", even if we all think he's lying, that's good enough.
Unless a court takes the extraordinary step of saying he was incompetent during the last few years of his presidency, which would cause a constitutional crisis, and is not something courts are ever eager to do (both cause constitutional crisises and declaring people retroactively incompetent)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (lIio7)
Right. If he says "I authorized it", even if we all think he's lying, that's good enough.
Unless a court takes the extraordinary step of saying he was incompetent during the last few years of his presidency, which would cause a constitutional crisis, and is not something courts are ever eager to do (both cause constitutional crisises and declaring people retroactively incompetent)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (D7oie)
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A capitalist at heart.
Trump makes deal for NATO to buy weapons from us instead of getting them for free
Trump makes deal for NATO to buy weapons from us instead of getting them for free
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (L/fGl)
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...which would be a significant improvement even at that.
it would be, and should be the case, and I hope they so rule
no it doesn't mitigate the damage done by the Dems here, but we are better off going forward
it would be, and should be the case, and I hope they so rule
no it doesn't mitigate the damage done by the Dems here, but we are better off going forward
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Constitution does not permit the Executive Department to issue pardons any more than it does the department to sign legislation into law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (dfIr7)
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You're overlooking the "Power of Attorney" clause in the Constitution.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (dfIr7)
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You're overlooking the "Power of Attorney" clause in the Constitution.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (tT6L1)
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262 Right. If he says "I authorized it", even if we all think he's lying, that's good enough.
Unless a court takes the extraordinary step of saying he was incompetent during the last few years of his presidency, which would cause a constitutional crisis, and is not something courts are ever eager to do (both cause constitutional crisises and declaring people retroactively incompetent)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (uCjyK)
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A court case over a specific person granted clemency, undone by Trump EO, that leads to an actual exchange of evidence where Biden can say, "I authorized everything," and his aide says, "I changed the terms of the batch and ran it through the autopen," is not an open and shut, "Well, Biden authorized it."
Unless a court takes the extraordinary step of saying he was incompetent during the last few years of his presidency, which would cause a constitutional crisis, and is not something courts are ever eager to do (both cause constitutional crisises and declaring people retroactively incompetent)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (uCjyK)
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A court case over a specific person granted clemency, undone by Trump EO, that leads to an actual exchange of evidence where Biden can say, "I authorized everything," and his aide says, "I changed the terms of the batch and ran it through the autopen," is not an open and shut, "Well, Biden authorized it."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)
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I seem to remember Kennedy being the first or maybe Johnson. Something about being on an airplane when a document needed signing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (lPvx2)
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232 But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
"Put together a list of people who fit this description so I can pardon them all."
"You take point on running negotiations between East Trashcanistan and Barehandedasswipeland, i've got other things to do."
"This is Bob. Everyone do what Bob says from now on."
"this is chatgpt. everyone do what chatgpt says from now on."
"Put together a list of people who fit this description so I can pardon them all."
"You take point on running negotiations between East Trashcanistan and Barehandedasswipeland, i've got other things to do."
"This is Bob. Everyone do what Bob says from now on."
"this is chatgpt. everyone do what chatgpt says from now on."
Posted by: the slippery slope to landru at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (v3pYe)
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W didn't use the autopen to sign any government document.
His legal team explored the legality of it, but he never did it.
Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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You're arguing with the worng person, take it up with Musk. And words like "stupid" or "intelligent" don't apply to AI. It is very useful in some tasks, I would argue, and reviewing accumulated data is certainly one such.
His legal team explored the legality of it, but he never did it.
Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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You're arguing with the worng person, take it up with Musk. And words like "stupid" or "intelligent" don't apply to AI. It is very useful in some tasks, I would argue, and reviewing accumulated data is certainly one such.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (PWqrv)
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270 You're arguing with the worng person, take it up with Musk. And words like "stupid" or "intelligent" don't apply to AI. It is very useful in some tasks, I would argue, and reviewing accumulated data is certainly one such.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (PWqrv)
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Primary sources > AI.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (PWqrv)
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Primary sources > AI.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
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In England, a significant period of history was "The Regency," from 1788 to 1820, when King George !!! was "intermittently" insane so Parliament basically took power away from him (without him really realizing it), while various functionaries, and later the Prince of Wales, ran the country in his stead.
Biden's term in office was basically The American Regency, with a demented leader occasionally remembering that he's the president, while meanwhile his underlings and family members ran the nation.
But in England this was openly acknowledged and is an official period of history. In America, we live in a web of lies, and the media and the intelligentsia won't even admit it happened.
Biden's term in office was basically The American Regency, with a demented leader occasionally remembering that he's the president, while meanwhile his underlings and family members ran the nation.
But in England this was openly acknowledged and is an official period of history. In America, we live in a web of lies, and the media and the intelligentsia won't even admit it happened.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (pMi6S)
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That ship was well past it's useful life
The age of the carrier, in a conflict between peers, is likely over. It's useful as a mobile air base when dealing with minor powers but Russia isn't concerned about maintaining SLOC so there's no reason to hang on to an expense.
The age of the carrier, in a conflict between peers, is likely over. It's useful as a mobile air base when dealing with minor powers but Russia isn't concerned about maintaining SLOC so there's no reason to hang on to an expense.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (ExV1e)
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His personal doctor or personal lawyer getting on the stand saying "he was incompetent when he signed the pardons" would probably be at least somewhat persuasive, but even then, I don't think a court would undo those signatures, even if Biden was a nobody and the documents in question were for home equity loans or something else.
Unfortunately, the way things are, the more impactful an act, the sloppier the requirements and response. The president kicks a dog: probably impeached. The president signs an executive order telling the DOJ to send powerful weapons to Cartels hoping they will kill enough Americans to move the culture to ban guns? We can't do anything about that, it would be too damaging to our very way of life!"
Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Unfortunately, the way things are, the more impactful an act, the sloppier the requirements and response. The president kicks a dog: probably impeached. The president signs an executive order telling the DOJ to send powerful weapons to Cartels hoping they will kill enough Americans to move the culture to ban guns? We can't do anything about that, it would be too damaging to our very way of life!"
Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (dfIr7)
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Just think what a political party could accomplish at the ballot box with a handful of strategically placed autopens.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (poXs5)
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Something tells me Sarbanes Oxley was written excluding government. Because under that disaster of a bill all executives are liable for their functionary's malfeasance.
SarBox should apply to all parts of the country or none at all.
SarBox should apply to all parts of the country or none at all.
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (mlg/3)
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Obviously because they haven't talked about enough or in dire enough terms. I'm sure they'll be correcting that real soon now.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Original story: Godzilla has left Japan and is advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco three months from now.
Updated, more convincing story: TEN GODZILLAS have left Japan and are advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco ONE MONTH from now.
Obviously because they haven't talked about enough or in dire enough terms. I'm sure they'll be correcting that real soon now.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Original story: Godzilla has left Japan and is advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco three months from now.
Updated, more convincing story: TEN GODZILLAS have left Japan and are advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco ONE MONTH from now.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (xp7+v)
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It is very useful in some tasks, I would argue, and reviewing accumulated data is certainly one such.
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Yup. A very nice interface to very large datasets. A true timesaver, but not a "thinker".
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Yup. A very nice interface to very large datasets. A true timesaver, but not a "thinker".
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (vd6bO)
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My understanding is a aide doesn't get the Presidential right to make pardons
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
Reality suggests that your understanding is incorrect.
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
Reality suggests that your understanding is incorrect.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)
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You're overlooking the "Power of Attorney" clause in the Constitution.
Is that the same section as the Good n Plenty clause?
Is that the same section as the Good n Plenty clause?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (dfIr7)
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A capitalist at heart.
Trump makes deal for NATO to buy weapons from us instead of getting them for free
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (L/fGl)
The EU is going to have to borrow US Dollars to afford them, since the Euro is decreasing in value, and the chances that the EU as an economy is going to increase enough in the face of their net-zero and social welfare increases to afford non inflationary Euros is pretty slim
Oh, and THEY HAVE TO PAY POWELL'S HIGH INTEREST RATE!!!!!
How does "we can censor anyone anywhere anyhow and fine foreign companies if we feel like it" feel now, Queen Ursula?
Trump makes deal for NATO to buy weapons from us instead of getting them for free
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (L/fGl)
The EU is going to have to borrow US Dollars to afford them, since the Euro is decreasing in value, and the chances that the EU as an economy is going to increase enough in the face of their net-zero and social welfare increases to afford non inflationary Euros is pretty slim
Oh, and THEY HAVE TO PAY POWELL'S HIGH INTEREST RATE!!!!!
How does "we can censor anyone anywhere anyhow and fine foreign companies if we feel like it" feel now, Queen Ursula?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (D7oie)
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I’m a Christian man, but even God had his limits. These people knowingly and with malice usurped the office of our president, that is, the office of the people, corrupted the entire government for their purposes, and then pardoned the people involved with stealing our liberty and undermining the constitution. There are a lot of people who paid the price for that with their lives, careers and livelihoods. If you’re in that generation, you will never forget this, nor should you. It’s just one reason amongst many the Democrat Party should never have power again.
In a just and right world we would be preparing the crucifixion for these people.
In a just and right world we would be preparing the crucifixion for these people.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 14, 2025 01:19 PM (ofdHm)
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No rest for the weary
Have a great afternoon everyone
Have a great afternoon everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (+qU29)
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Someone should make a Netflix series about the Biden era White House, but everyone is wearing 1810's fashions like in a Jane Austen novel.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (pMi6S)
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Pixy earlier in the year:
With Joe Biden's recent pardoning of his catspaw son Hunter, journalists were driven to defend him by digging up the little-known pardons of family members by former presidents, like George H. W. Bush's pardoning of his son Neil, or Woodrow Wilson's pardon for his brother-in-law. The problem is, these things never happened.Whatever happened in this case, there's a running pattern of people relying on ChatGPT or other AI services to provide answers, only to get hallucinations in return. Perhaps you remember earlier this year when a trailer for Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis was pulled because it contained fabricated quotes from critics. A generative AI, not identified, had made them up. In fact, ChatGPT is often "entirely wrong," according to the Columbia Journalism Review. Given 200 quotes and asked to identify the publisher that was the source of those quotes, ChatGPT was partially or entirely wrong more than three-quarters of the time. Journalists, being journalists, asked ChatGPT to do their research for them.
ChatGPT, being ChatGPT, lied.
With Joe Biden's recent pardoning of his catspaw son Hunter, journalists were driven to defend him by digging up the little-known pardons of family members by former presidents, like George H. W. Bush's pardoning of his son Neil, or Woodrow Wilson's pardon for his brother-in-law. The problem is, these things never happened.Whatever happened in this case, there's a running pattern of people relying on ChatGPT or other AI services to provide answers, only to get hallucinations in return. Perhaps you remember earlier this year when a trailer for Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis was pulled because it contained fabricated quotes from critics. A generative AI, not identified, had made them up. In fact, ChatGPT is often "entirely wrong," according to the Columbia Journalism Review. Given 200 quotes and asked to identify the publisher that was the source of those quotes, ChatGPT was partially or entirely wrong more than three-quarters of the time. Journalists, being journalists, asked ChatGPT to do their research for them.
ChatGPT, being ChatGPT, lied.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (DJPFk)
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Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Two Americas.
You as a normie will face more severe consequences for going 5 MPH over the speed limit then Obama will for arming cartels or Biden for mandating a poison shot.
But it isn't really about "two big to fail". Its whether you are connected or not
Two Americas.
You as a normie will face more severe consequences for going 5 MPH over the speed limit then Obama will for arming cartels or Biden for mandating a poison shot.
But it isn't really about "two big to fail". Its whether you are connected or not
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (t0Rmr)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)
Yes it is. It doesn't matter what his aides say, all that matters is that Biden say "I authorized those signatures."
In the same way if your wife signs your name on a credit card receipt and the credit card company says "did you authorize this?" and you say "yes" it doesn't matter if you later discovered she bought twice as many shoes as you thought she did unless you call the credit card company back and say "actually, my wife, acting as my agent, went beyond the scope of her authority and bought 2 pairs of flats when I only authorized one pair of flats." And even then, the CC company would almost certainly want to see the police report you filed against your wife.
If you don't say "I didn't authorize that!" then the assumption is that you did, especially if you publicly and openly say you did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)
Yes it is. It doesn't matter what his aides say, all that matters is that Biden say "I authorized those signatures."
In the same way if your wife signs your name on a credit card receipt and the credit card company says "did you authorize this?" and you say "yes" it doesn't matter if you later discovered she bought twice as many shoes as you thought she did unless you call the credit card company back and say "actually, my wife, acting as my agent, went beyond the scope of her authority and bought 2 pairs of flats when I only authorized one pair of flats." And even then, the CC company would almost certainly want to see the police report you filed against your wife.
If you don't say "I didn't authorize that!" then the assumption is that you did, especially if you publicly and openly say you did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
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ConLaw question/thought experiment....
Imagine a president issued a blanket standing order that anything Congress can manage to get to his desk is automatically signed, regardless of content?
Any bill that gets to his office goes straight into the autopen and gets a signature.
Would that be allowed? Would the courts reject it? Would the courts be -able- to reject it?
Is that really fundamentally different than a President saying "Whatever pardons you monkeys can crank out of your sick little imaginations have my blessing"?
At what point is "The President said it's cool" no longer enough of a hook on which to hang the official affairs of the executive branch?
Imagine a president issued a blanket standing order that anything Congress can manage to get to his desk is automatically signed, regardless of content?
Any bill that gets to his office goes straight into the autopen and gets a signature.
Would that be allowed? Would the courts reject it? Would the courts be -able- to reject it?
Is that really fundamentally different than a President saying "Whatever pardons you monkeys can crank out of your sick little imaginations have my blessing"?
At what point is "The President said it's cool" no longer enough of a hook on which to hang the official affairs of the executive branch?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (VoAdT)
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Nice to see NYT go super-formal when it comes to Biden's name, like that's going to make things better somehow.
Posted by: Octochicken at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (oCS0o)
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Won't somebody think of the tamales?
Dave Matt@davematt88
The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Dave Matt@davematt88
The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (L/fGl)
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If Elon Musk wants to do some good, he should back the removal of these pardons and the prosecution of people like Fauci.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (ofdHm)
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Trump should issue pardons for all federal tax cases during his term. Tell Everybody to stop paying any fed taxes and let The Autopen do it's Constitutional duty.
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (28cZF)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (DJPFk)
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I’m a Christian man, but even God had his limits.
Indeed. But it's not up to us to say where they are.
Indeed. But it's not up to us to say where they are.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (/y8xj)
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My understanding is a aide doesn't get the Presidential right to make pardons
I think pretty much everyone understands it that way, but barring some official statement or law passed by congress, effectively, there's nothing to stop a president from delegating everything. Or having it delegated for them.
I think pretty much everyone understands it that way, but barring some official statement or law passed by congress, effectively, there's nothing to stop a president from delegating everything. Or having it delegated for them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (dfIr7)
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Primary sources > AI.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
What is this whole primary source kick you are suddenly on? Is it a meme? Are you making a meme?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
What is this whole primary source kick you are suddenly on? Is it a meme? Are you making a meme?
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (Qr870)
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287 Yes it is. It doesn't matter what his aides say, all that matters is that Biden say "I authorized those signatures."
In the same way if your wife signs your name on a credit card receipt and the credit card company says "did you authorize this?" and you say "yes" it doesn't matter if you later discovered she bought twice as many shoes as you thought she did unless you call the credit card company back and say "actually, my wife, acting as my agent, went beyond the scope of her authority and bought 2 pairs of flats when I only authorized one pair of flats." And even then, the CC company would almost certainly want to see the police report you filed against your wife.
If you don't say "I didn't authorize that!" then the assumption is that you did, especially if you publicly and openly say you did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
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You're applying contract law to a constitutional question.
Why do you keep doing that?
The power of pardon is plenary in the president, not his aides who admit to changing things and not getting clearance from the president.
In the same way if your wife signs your name on a credit card receipt and the credit card company says "did you authorize this?" and you say "yes" it doesn't matter if you later discovered she bought twice as many shoes as you thought she did unless you call the credit card company back and say "actually, my wife, acting as my agent, went beyond the scope of her authority and bought 2 pairs of flats when I only authorized one pair of flats." And even then, the CC company would almost certainly want to see the police report you filed against your wife.
If you don't say "I didn't authorize that!" then the assumption is that you did, especially if you publicly and openly say you did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
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You're applying contract law to a constitutional question.
Why do you keep doing that?
The power of pardon is plenary in the president, not his aides who admit to changing things and not getting clearance from the president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Nood. Kolleg.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)
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Someone should make a Netflix series about the Biden era White House, but everyone is wearing 1810's fashions like in a Jane Austen novel.
Oh verily has anyone seen my snuff box? And Lady Biden please do not tell me you "found" it in your unmentionables again.
Oh verily has anyone seen my snuff box? And Lady Biden please do not tell me you "found" it in your unmentionables again.
Posted by: Baron Hunter Biden facing the viscountess of life at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (t0Rmr)
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282 I’m a Christian man...
...In a just and right world we would be preparing the crucifixion for these people.
Posted by: Marcus T
While I agree with you 100% politically, on theological terms, if we crucify them, wouldn't elevate them to the status of saintly martyrs and saviors?
...In a just and right world we would be preparing the crucifixion for these people.
Posted by: Marcus T
While I agree with you 100% politically, on theological terms, if we crucify them, wouldn't elevate them to the status of saintly martyrs and saviors?
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (pMi6S)
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The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
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I'll take Things That Never Happened and/or Incomplete Stories for 500, Alex
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I'll take Things That Never Happened and/or Incomplete Stories for 500, Alex
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:23 PM (Qr870)
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The power of pardon is plenary in the president...
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Can antibiotics fix this plenary thing?
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Can antibiotics fix this plenary thing?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:23 PM (W3T6M)
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Updated, more convincing story: TEN GODZILLAS have left Japan and are advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco ONE MONTH from now.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I alone apparently remember that the West Coast US was going to be devastated by nooklear fallout from Fukushima. In 2008.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I alone apparently remember that the West Coast US was going to be devastated by nooklear fallout from Fukushima. In 2008.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 01:23 PM (mlg/3)
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Unfortunately, the way things are, the more impactful an act, the sloppier the requirements and response. The president kicks a dog: probably impeached. The president signs an executive order telling the DOJ to send powerful weapons to Cartels hoping they will kill enough Americans to move the culture to ban guns? We can't do anything about that, it would be too damaging to our very way of life!"
Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (dfIr7)
Cynical take, but certainly some truth in that.
And don't get me wrong, I think everyone in government and banking and big business should be held to the same standards as the rest of us, if not higher standards. If the bank lost the physical note proving you owe them money, that certainly sounds like it's the banks problem and not mine.
But unfortunately, that's not the world we live in.
Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (dfIr7)
Cynical take, but certainly some truth in that.
And don't get me wrong, I think everyone in government and banking and big business should be held to the same standards as the rest of us, if not higher standards. If the bank lost the physical note proving you owe them money, that certainly sounds like it's the banks problem and not mine.
But unfortunately, that's not the world we live in.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (uCjyK)
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The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
yay!
hey Dave loads of peeps can make tamales
yay!
hey Dave loads of peeps can make tamales
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (Pv3Rg)
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"President Mush Brain was right there in WH when most of the pardons were produced.
Why not just sign them"
Exactly. It's not like he was solving world hunger or bringing about world peace or anything. I mean, he was awake at least 4 hours a day (I think). Give the old bastard something to do.
Why not just sign them"
Exactly. It's not like he was solving world hunger or bringing about world peace or anything. I mean, he was awake at least 4 hours a day (I think). Give the old bastard something to do.
Posted by: Mike B at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (Tvrrp)
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But it isn't really about "two big to fail". Its whether you are connected or not
And it always has been that way. And probably always should. But its violently opposed to the American ideal and dream.
And it always has been that way. And probably always should. But its violently opposed to the American ideal and dream.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (dfIr7)
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While I agree with you 100% politically, on theological terms, if we crucify them, wouldn't elevate them to the status of saintly martyrs and saviors?
The Romans crucified a lot of people who weren't at all tied to Christianity.
When they crushed Spartacus's revolt they crucified thousands of prisoners along the Appian way. Speaking of which...never surrender to the Romans, better to die with a sword in your face...
The Romans crucified a lot of people who weren't at all tied to Christianity.
When they crushed Spartacus's revolt they crucified thousands of prisoners along the Appian way. Speaking of which...never surrender to the Romans, better to die with a sword in your face...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (t0Rmr)
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>Original story: Godzilla has left Japan and is advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco three months from now.
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So, Godzilla can't swim.
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So, Godzilla can't swim.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (AOsQT)
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But in England this was openly acknowledged and is an official period of history. In America, we live in a web of lies, and the media and the intelligentsia won't even admit it happened.
Posted by: zombie
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Henry VI as well. He went practically catatonic for a while.
Posted by: zombie
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Henry VI as well. He went practically catatonic for a while.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (p16cu)
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Dave Matt@davematt88
The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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She had a good run, and now the jig's up.
Dave Matt@davematt88
The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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She had a good run, and now the jig's up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (xp7+v)
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>> While I agree with you 100% politically, on theological terms, if we crucify them, wouldn't elevate them to the status of saintly martyrs and saviors?
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (pMi6S)
The Roman Army used crucifixion because it was a brutal, painful, drawn out and almost inhuman death. The fact that is was used on Jesus Christ and other martyrs is simple consequential and religiously insignificant.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (pMi6S)
The Roman Army used crucifixion because it was a brutal, painful, drawn out and almost inhuman death. The fact that is was used on Jesus Christ and other martyrs is simple consequential and religiously insignificant.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (ofdHm)
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The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Lefty boards are full of people complaining they had their landscaper/nanny deported...
Lefty boards are full of people complaining they had their landscaper/nanny deported...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (t0Rmr)
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Pixy earlier in the year:
With Joe Biden's recent pardoning of his catspaw son Hunter, journalists were driven to defend him by digging up the little-known pardons of family members by former presidents, like George H. W. Bush's pardoning of his son Neil, or Woodrow Wilson's pardon for his brother-in-law. The problem is, these things never happened.Whatever happened in this case, there's a running pattern of people relying on ChatGPT or other AI services to provide answers, only to get hallucinations in return. ...
ChatGPT, being ChatGPT, lied.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (DJPFk)
Also see Pixy's Daily Tech News from Saturday July 12:
"The problem is that AI is helpful when you don't know what you are doing - coincidentally in precisely the situations where you are unable to judge how useful they are.
When you know what you are doing, they are of less value. Of less than no value, on average.
So the best approach to taking advantage of AI is to use it for tasks where you can't judge the results and don't care whether they are correct."
With Joe Biden's recent pardoning of his catspaw son Hunter, journalists were driven to defend him by digging up the little-known pardons of family members by former presidents, like George H. W. Bush's pardoning of his son Neil, or Woodrow Wilson's pardon for his brother-in-law. The problem is, these things never happened.Whatever happened in this case, there's a running pattern of people relying on ChatGPT or other AI services to provide answers, only to get hallucinations in return. ...
ChatGPT, being ChatGPT, lied.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (DJPFk)
Also see Pixy's Daily Tech News from Saturday July 12:
"The problem is that AI is helpful when you don't know what you are doing - coincidentally in precisely the situations where you are unable to judge how useful they are.
When you know what you are doing, they are of less value. Of less than no value, on average.
So the best approach to taking advantage of AI is to use it for tasks where you can't judge the results and don't care whether they are correct."
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (wVcYX)
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If the bank lost the physical note proving you owe them money, that certainly sounds like it's the banks problem and not mine.
Yeah, like those cases where a bank accidentally gives you more money than you actually have. They screwed up, yes, but if you spend the money... you should not have to pay it back. Its effectively a contract, I tell you the truth, you tell me the truth. If I mess up and write a check too big for my account, its MY fault and I have to back it. If the bank writes a check too big for my account, its on them too -- or it should be.
Yeah, like those cases where a bank accidentally gives you more money than you actually have. They screwed up, yes, but if you spend the money... you should not have to pay it back. Its effectively a contract, I tell you the truth, you tell me the truth. If I mess up and write a check too big for my account, its MY fault and I have to back it. If the bank writes a check too big for my account, its on them too -- or it should be.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (dfIr7)
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I think if someone really does some research they'll find that the radicals were, pretty much, running the show. There are inklings of this in some of the Agency policies that popped up of a substantive nature without comment from the White House until after someone noticed and made some noise.
A good example, I think, is when the US Consumer Product Safety office decided that they were going to ban gas stoves. The White House only got involved when the feedback was so negative and it became a story and they had to do damage control.
Instance like that suggest that everyone was trying to slip through their pet issues, and Biden had no clue what was going on. I have no doubt that his radical advisors were cheering on some of these issues behind the scenes.
A good example, I think, is when the US Consumer Product Safety office decided that they were going to ban gas stoves. The White House only got involved when the feedback was so negative and it became a story and they had to do damage control.
Instance like that suggest that everyone was trying to slip through their pet issues, and Biden had no clue what was going on. I have no doubt that his radical advisors were cheering on some of these issues behind the scenes.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (dIske)
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The Roman Army used crucifixion because it was a brutal, painful, drawn out and almost inhuman death. The fact that is was used on Jesus Christ and other martyrs is simple consequential and religiously insignificant.
I ran across an interesting note that Carthage used it as well, often on defeated generals which was not a particularly good choice since if you faced any real possibility of defeat why would you fight?
I ran across an interesting note that Carthage used it as well, often on defeated generals which was not a particularly good choice since if you faced any real possibility of defeat why would you fight?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (t0Rmr)
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Autopen shit my pants!
Posted by: President Joe at July 14, 2025 01:29 PM (Vu7A1)
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Japan should rename one of its aircraft carriers to JS Godzilla.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 01:30 PM (g47mK)
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Yup. A very nice interface to very large datasets. A true timesaver, but not a "thinker".
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (vd6bO)
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well stated. We also use it for what might otherwise be described as "machine learning" tasks, in our software business. For example, we set up individually unique image recognition tasks (templates really) using an AI, where we have trained it using thousands of similar such tasks previously set up by programmers. It's been fantastic for this purpose.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (vd6bO)
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well stated. We also use it for what might otherwise be described as "machine learning" tasks, in our software business. For example, we set up individually unique image recognition tasks (templates really) using an AI, where we have trained it using thousands of similar such tasks previously set up by programmers. It's been fantastic for this purpose.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:30 PM (LkicY)
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I think if someone really does some research they'll find that the radicals were, pretty much, running the show. There are inklings of this in some of the Agency policies that popped up of a substantive nature without comment from the White House until after someone noticed and made some noise.
In a way, we were saved a lot of horrors by that. Anyone who has suffered through or seen footage of a meeting with these lunatics knows that they are constantly infighting, blocking each other, finding reasons why someone else's idea is evil, and so on.
Conflicting sects in the radical lefts secular religion fighting each other kept them from doing as much damage as they may have.
In a way, we were saved a lot of horrors by that. Anyone who has suffered through or seen footage of a meeting with these lunatics knows that they are constantly infighting, blocking each other, finding reasons why someone else's idea is evil, and so on.
Conflicting sects in the radical lefts secular religion fighting each other kept them from doing as much damage as they may have.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (dfIr7)
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They just, more or less, admitted that the pardons were fake.
Am I missing something here? You can't discuss broad categories of pardons, and have other people figure out who that applies to, make a list, then sign your name.
Am I missing something here? You can't discuss broad categories of pardons, and have other people figure out who that applies to, make a list, then sign your name.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (gDhA9)
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Simple way to confirm the pardons are legit... just ask each recipient for the receipt for their pardon fee, signed by Joe or Jill, of course. No problem.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (PQOq3)
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Probably his Autopen did it
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 14, 2025 06:14 PM (wGqjj)
THE MORNING RANT: Forsaking Further Conservative Victories Because of “Epstein Disappointment” is not Principled, It’s Surrender
Count me among the people who would very much like to see justice come to everyone who committed a crime in their association with Jeffrey Epstein. If there are any lists, files, documents, etc. that would incriminate the powerful and politically connected, I want them released. But I also fear that whatever evidence existed has likely been destroyed, and that the lore regarding “Epstein Island” may exceed the actual crimes.
That said, I refuse to join in with those seeking to blow up the Trump administration out of frustration that an “Epstein list” is not being released. Dating back to President Obama’s weaponization of government against his political enemies, I despair about the lack of accountability and consequences for those who so egregiously violated the public’s trust. From Lois Lerner to Anthony Fauci to the government employees pushing the Russia collusion hoax in an effort to overthrow Trump in his first term, I am extremely frustrated about the lack of accountability. I want prosecutions. But I also still want political victories wherever I can get them, and my frustration about the lack of prosecutions does not mean we should suspend the MAGA agenda. The same sentiment applies to the Epstein situation. Quite simply, be it Fauci or Epstein, I want these people prosecuted for their crimes. But irrespective of them being prosecuted or not, I still want my political priorities advanced. As I documented here a few days ago, the One Big Beautiful Bill that was just signed into law kneecapped green energy and has effectively defunded the “EV Transition.” The first six months of Trump 47’s presidency has seen the most dramatic rollback of big-government in my lifetime, and President Trump is also vigorously fighting the culture war too. This all correlates very closely to something I just wrote about at The Blaze. For decades, the phony “budget hawks” of the Republican establishment (e.g. Paul Ryan and his ilk) used “the deficit crisis” as an excuse to spike the conservative agenda. The gimmick was that nothing that America-first/cultural conservatives sought could be pursued legislatively until the budget crisis was fixed. But they also ensured that no fixes could be made, because the first cut they talked about was always to social security and Medicare, not cutting the low hanging fruit that Doge just tackled. Paul Ryan and his fellow establishmentarians never did anything to actually cut government, they just served to protect the swamp by having us feel we were projecting great principles while actually surrendering to the establishment. The “conservative” opposition to the One Big Beautiful Bill tried to exploit our principles the same way. They failed. Conservatism advanced and government is being rolled back. In summary, we cannot let frustration about Epstein cause us to stop the momentum of President Trump. Here is my piece at The Blaze, “The Budget Hoax That Nearly Sank Trump’s Biggest Win.” It’s behind a paywall, but as always, if you are a subscriber to The Blaze, I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.Too many conservatives have fallen for the “budget hawk hoax” for far too long, accepting that we cannot have any conservative victories so long as we have a national debt. Perhaps that day has finally ended. Yes, our country’s fiscal crisis is real, and it will persist. But forsaking any victories over the left because of the deficit is not a matter of high principle. It’s simply surrender.
My latest at The Blaze: "Budget hawks" have killed conservative legislation for decades, arguing that no conservative gains of any kind can pass Congress until the deficit is fixed. It's all a con job, but Republicans didn't fall for the hoax this time.https://t.co/0e19WV3tqm
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) July 12, 2025
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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (N1DT3)
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (+bLMA)
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Count me among the people who would very much like to see festive little hats.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (PkYxy)
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THIS
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 11:02 AM (GbwPZ)
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Good points.
Republicans/Conservatives too often make the perfect the enemy of the good.
That's where Elon is, as well.
(However, we don't need to accept "the bad" like Murkowski and her ilk.)
Republicans/Conservatives too often make the perfect the enemy of the good.
That's where Elon is, as well.
(However, we don't need to accept "the bad" like Murkowski and her ilk.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:02 AM (N1DT3)
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Well said, Buck
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 11:02 AM (jZAMu)
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I'm Cicero and I endorse this post.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (dDmld)
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I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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Republicans/Conservatives too often make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
How do you do, ma'am~?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
How do you do, ma'am~?
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 11:04 AM (mlg/3)
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The Epstein Trump hate is a leftist psyop.
Period.
On the conservative sites I frequent, even here, the coordinate low post "true MAGA" concern trolls being concerned is pretty transparent.
Do. Not. Fall. For. It.
Period.
On the conservative sites I frequent, even here, the coordinate low post "true MAGA" concern trolls being concerned is pretty transparent.
Do. Not. Fall. For. It.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 11:04 AM (17s+e)
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The left, and their handmaids on the 'right', have gotten very good at making emotional appeals which people will latch onto and follow that squirrel as the avalanche they care more about slides a bit further down the mountain.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:05 AM (ExV1e)
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8 I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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It's weird how 18 months is an eternity in politics except for whatever is dominating an individual's social media feed at the moment.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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It's weird how 18 months is an eternity in politics except for whatever is dominating an individual's social media feed at the moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:05 AM (GBKbO)
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But NO IRISH!
Posted by: Olson Johnson at July 14, 2025 11:05 AM (dDmld)
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The deficit issue had some really stupid arguments.
When asked about cutting the things that people REALLY support cutting, the "conservatives" in the GOPe responded that "cutting things like foreign aid is the equivalent of cutting out a cup of coffee per day when you are overspending $10K a week!"
Ok, I'll grant them that it isn't the solution. BUT IF YOU WON'T EVEN CUT OUT THE CUP OF COFFEE, you're never going to fix the problem. Start with what's easy, THEN go to what's hard.
Of course, that is is they actually wanted to solve the problem. They never did, which is why it was all theatre.
When asked about cutting the things that people REALLY support cutting, the "conservatives" in the GOPe responded that "cutting things like foreign aid is the equivalent of cutting out a cup of coffee per day when you are overspending $10K a week!"
Ok, I'll grant them that it isn't the solution. BUT IF YOU WON'T EVEN CUT OUT THE CUP OF COFFEE, you're never going to fix the problem. Start with what's easy, THEN go to what's hard.
Of course, that is is they actually wanted to solve the problem. They never did, which is why it was all theatre.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (N1DT3)
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Politics is the art of compromise.
It's rare that one side gets 100% of what it wants (unless it's Democrats getting the Collins/Murkowski/Romney wing of the GOPe to vote along with them).
It's rare that one side gets 100% of what it wants (unless it's Democrats getting the Collins/Murkowski/Romney wing of the GOPe to vote along with them).
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (Ovc06)
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>> That said, I refuse to join in with those seeking to blow up the Trump administration out of frustration that an “Epstein list” is not being released.
Yes, but also -- this was a big part of Trump's promising to take on the Deep State.
And he spoke about it a lot. As did Kash, Bondi and Bongino. All people in power to reveal what the government has.
And they could have said "whatever once existed seems to have been destroyed." Fine. Find out who destroyed it and go after them.
But they're not saying that. They're saying, with full confidence, that there is no "list" and there are no videos, despite Pam Bondi saying the exact opposite 4 or 5 months ago. So they're clearly lying to us about something that could very likely be the biggest political scandal in recent history.
That's not a good look, and a lot of people do feel betrayed by it.
That's not to say Kamala would have been a better president, but also, I don't get how we're supposed to move on from this. It's like HW's "read my lips: no new taxes" pledge. Or Wilsons "I'll keep us out of war" pledge. Etc. etc.
Yes, but also -- this was a big part of Trump's promising to take on the Deep State.
And he spoke about it a lot. As did Kash, Bondi and Bongino. All people in power to reveal what the government has.
And they could have said "whatever once existed seems to have been destroyed." Fine. Find out who destroyed it and go after them.
But they're not saying that. They're saying, with full confidence, that there is no "list" and there are no videos, despite Pam Bondi saying the exact opposite 4 or 5 months ago. So they're clearly lying to us about something that could very likely be the biggest political scandal in recent history.
That's not a good look, and a lot of people do feel betrayed by it.
That's not to say Kamala would have been a better president, but also, I don't get how we're supposed to move on from this. It's like HW's "read my lips: no new taxes" pledge. Or Wilsons "I'll keep us out of war" pledge. Etc. etc.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (uCjyK)
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How do you do, ma'am~?
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 11:04 AM (mlg/3)
That's unfair to the libertarians. They also make the insane the enemy of the good.
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 11:04 AM (mlg/3)
That's unfair to the libertarians. They also make the insane the enemy of the good.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (N1DT3)
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The Epstein Trump hate is a leftist psyop.
You mean all the social media stars who didn't much care about the issue before but now say that TRUMP HAS ABANDONED MAGA are being disingenuous? I bet you said that while Trump was having hundreds of thousands of troops sent to Iran also.
You mean all the social media stars who didn't much care about the issue before but now say that TRUMP HAS ABANDONED MAGA are being disingenuous? I bet you said that while Trump was having hundreds of thousands of troops sent to Iran also.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (ExV1e)
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Epstein is dead.
Maxwell is in jail.
The statute of limitations has run on probably every crime committed in the videos.
At best, shame is possible at this point for the shameless.
Diddy's case shows the likelihood anyone convicts anyone powerful for any sex trafficking or rape crimes, even if you could make the statute somehow expand.
Would it be nice to know - sure.
Don't we already suspect anyway - yes.
In the grand scheme, do I want to know over practically any other pro-life and pro-middle class priorities - no.
In the grand scheme, would I rather they out the deep state destroyers (like they did with the fake leak) b/c they could continue to damage us vs Epstein who is dead and can cause no further damage - yes.
Maxwell is in jail.
The statute of limitations has run on probably every crime committed in the videos.
At best, shame is possible at this point for the shameless.
Diddy's case shows the likelihood anyone convicts anyone powerful for any sex trafficking or rape crimes, even if you could make the statute somehow expand.
Would it be nice to know - sure.
Don't we already suspect anyway - yes.
In the grand scheme, do I want to know over practically any other pro-life and pro-middle class priorities - no.
In the grand scheme, would I rather they out the deep state destroyers (like they did with the fake leak) b/c they could continue to damage us vs Epstein who is dead and can cause no further damage - yes.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (tOcjL)
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I really don't care about the Epstein stuff. Yes, if crimes were committed they should be prosecuted.
I just don't think it will ever happen. The clue is, if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
I just don't think it will ever happen. The clue is, if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (6eOSv)
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"But I also still want political victories wherever I can get them, and my frustration about the lack of prosecutions does not mean we should suspend the MAGA agenda."
"Lack of prosecutions." Anyone who thought there would be a single arrest -- let along prosecution -- of any of the Biden-era criminals is smoking alien hopeium.
"Lack of prosecutions." Anyone who thought there would be a single arrest -- let along prosecution -- of any of the Biden-era criminals is smoking alien hopeium.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
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Trump says FBI's Dan Bongino is 'in good shape' amid Jeffrey Epstein probe fallout
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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22 Trump says FBI's Dan Bongino is 'in good shape' amid Jeffrey Epstein probe fallout
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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Only fallout evident was social media supposition.
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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Only fallout evident was social media supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (GBKbO)
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It's one of the problems with conspiracy... I won't say theories, but more the conspiracy mindset. It seem to lend itself to an all or nothing approach. You want a war of annihilation where all family business is settled in a single, glorious day.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
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One of the few times that I wished that the HQ had a like button. My sentiments exactly and Nova Local summed it up at #19.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (2NHgQ)
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That's unfair to the libertarians. They also make the insane the enemy of the good.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (N1DT3)
(e.g. "ALL DRUGS LEGALIZED AND FULLY OPEN BORDER!"
"But even if that all worked as you believe it would, it CAN'T work while we have a welfare state, according to your own philosophy."
"SHUT UP STATIST!")
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (N1DT3)
(e.g. "ALL DRUGS LEGALIZED AND FULLY OPEN BORDER!"
"But even if that all worked as you believe it would, it CAN'T work while we have a welfare state, according to your own philosophy."
"SHUT UP STATIST!")
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (N1DT3)
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24 It's one of the problems with conspiracy... I won't say theories, but more the conspiracy mindset. It seem to lend itself to an all or nothing approach. You want a war of annihilation where all family business is settled in a single, glorious day.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
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"I know exactly what the FBI has hidden in its vaults, and anyone who says anything in opposition to what I think is in there has been bought off."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
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"I know exactly what the FBI has hidden in its vaults, and anyone who says anything in opposition to what I think is in there has been bought off."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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Ok, I'll grant them that it isn't the solution. BUT IF YOU WON'T EVEN CUT OUT THE CUP OF COFFEE, you're never going to fix the problem. Start with what's easy, THEN go to what's hard.
Of course, that is is they actually wanted to solve the problem. They never did, which is why it was all theatre.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (N1DT3)
That's a related issue, but completely true. Paul Ryan and his team of "wonks" (remember that term) scoured the entire federal budget and determined there was absolutely nothing they could cut. The only deficit reduction that could be done would be by raising the social security retirement age. Which is clearly
a) not true
and
b) politically radioactive, especially since refer back to a.
Would people be willing to sacrifice a bit on social security if the government first cut massively in to their own spending? Probably. But Paul Ryan found a way to ensure zero cuts would happen, and instead the deficit continued to grow. That would indicate to me that no one was or is serious about cutting budgets.
Of course, that is is they actually wanted to solve the problem. They never did, which is why it was all theatre.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (N1DT3)
That's a related issue, but completely true. Paul Ryan and his team of "wonks" (remember that term) scoured the entire federal budget and determined there was absolutely nothing they could cut. The only deficit reduction that could be done would be by raising the social security retirement age. Which is clearly
a) not true
and
b) politically radioactive, especially since refer back to a.
Would people be willing to sacrifice a bit on social security if the government first cut massively in to their own spending? Probably. But Paul Ryan found a way to ensure zero cuts would happen, and instead the deficit continued to grow. That would indicate to me that no one was or is serious about cutting budgets.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (uCjyK)
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if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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Here's the problem: if you don't impose fiscal rigor when you have the chance, you might never get the chance again. I realize that corruption has allowed MMT to keep us bumbling along, but I sincerely believe you cannot continue to mount up trillions in debt without a reckoning.
I'm all about cutting spending though. I'd rather have Conservative 'wins' by inflicting crippling cutbacks on the Progressive favorite projects than try to get wins by spending more more we don't have on Conservative favorite projects.
Regan did a lot of good for this country but the idea of permanent deficit spending wasn't one of them.
I'm all about cutting spending though. I'd rather have Conservative 'wins' by inflicting crippling cutbacks on the Progressive favorite projects than try to get wins by spending more more we don't have on Conservative favorite projects.
Regan did a lot of good for this country but the idea of permanent deficit spending wasn't one of them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (xcxpd)
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29 if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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What is the list?
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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What is the list?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
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I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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The "memo" was a gift to the left (just look at which "news" source published the initial reports about it), after the build up the Epstein files initially got from the DOJ.
Once you decide not to pay any attention to the Propaganda agents, it does indeed go away.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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The "memo" was a gift to the left (just look at which "news" source published the initial reports about it), after the build up the Epstein files initially got from the DOJ.
Once you decide not to pay any attention to the Propaganda agents, it does indeed go away.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (PWqrv)
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It just seems to be gaining momentum..."
Sure, after seemingly everyone on the "right" keeps ranting on it. Funny that the mainstream ignored the whole thing until it became useful to beat on the right...
Sure, after seemingly everyone on the "right" keeps ranting on it. Funny that the mainstream ignored the whole thing until it became useful to beat on the right...
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (tubbA)
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Trump says FBI's Dan Bongino is 'in good shape' amid Jeffrey Epstein probe fallout
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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Only fallout evident was social media supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (GBKbO)
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Wait -- he didn't quit? He didn't demand Trump fire his bosses' bosses, the AG of the USA? No way! I was assured this happened. Assured!
This was purely an op by anti-Trump forces looking to sow dissention and chaos. And many conservatives fell for it. We will never ever learn.
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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Only fallout evident was social media supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (GBKbO)
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Wait -- he didn't quit? He didn't demand Trump fire his bosses' bosses, the AG of the USA? No way! I was assured this happened. Assured!
This was purely an op by anti-Trump forces looking to sow dissention and chaos. And many conservatives fell for it. We will never ever learn.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (iFTx/)
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29 if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:12 AM (xcxpd)
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Buck,
I have always enjoyed your rants, especially the one on EVs.
This one is as well, spot on. People can grip about Trump on a number of issues. But what he has succeeded in doing so far is lifting the veil hiding what the powers that be have hidden behind and shown there is an alternative to what they are offering.
I have always enjoyed your rants, especially the one on EVs.
This one is as well, spot on. People can grip about Trump on a number of issues. But what he has succeeded in doing so far is lifting the veil hiding what the powers that be have hidden behind and shown there is an alternative to what they are offering.
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 14, 2025 11:12 AM (w3u3d)
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They're saying, with full confidence, that there is no "list" and there are no videos, despite Pam Bondi saying the exact opposite 4 or 5 months ago.
Is it possible that Bondi, believing as many do, that there are lists, documents, plaster penis casts, etc... spoke incorrectly only to find out that there isn't anything?
Now, let's assume for the moment that once upon a time all those things existed. But now everyone says that they don't. How do you investigate something that everyone "in the know" says doesn't exist? People say that "a conspiracy this big couldn't last" and, yet, look at all the people who said nothing about senile Biden, all the people who said nothing about USAID, all the people who said nothing about the US funding the creation of covid.
Is it possible that Bondi, believing as many do, that there are lists, documents, plaster penis casts, etc... spoke incorrectly only to find out that there isn't anything?
Now, let's assume for the moment that once upon a time all those things existed. But now everyone says that they don't. How do you investigate something that everyone "in the know" says doesn't exist? People say that "a conspiracy this big couldn't last" and, yet, look at all the people who said nothing about senile Biden, all the people who said nothing about USAID, all the people who said nothing about the US funding the creation of covid.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (ExV1e)
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Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
And Trump would defend them? I think not.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
And Trump would defend them? I think not.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
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On the conservative sites I frequent, even here, the coordinate low post "true MAGA" concern trolls being concerned is pretty transparent.
yep
there's an obvious op being played out here
keep powder dry and hair unlit
yep
there's an obvious op being played out here
keep powder dry and hair unlit
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (Pv3Rg)
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We'll see if it dies down this week.. If not Trump is probably gonna have to say something...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (VE6XX)
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Is it possible that Bondi, believing as many do, that there are lists, documents, plaster penis casts, etc... spoke incorrectly only to find out that there isn't anything?
it's even likely that's what happened
it's even likely that's what happened
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (NFX2v)
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40 We'll see if it dies down this week.. If not Trump is probably gonna have to say something...
he's said more than enough
no more talk
WORK
he's said more than enough
no more talk
WORK
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (Pv3Rg)
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I suspect the List was what was already released: a list of flight logs and such.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Is Fauci in jail?
Posted by: Because Epstein is dead at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (XQo4F)
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This was purely an op by anti-Trump forces looking to sow dissention and chaos. And many conservatives fell for it. We will never ever learn.
we're on edge.
which is fair.
but try to always take a deep breath
the Left works by forcing your hand too early
we're on edge.
which is fair.
but try to always take a deep breath
the Left works by forcing your hand too early
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:15 AM (Pv3Rg)
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love my shit pebble.s
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 11:15 AM (/8R+T)
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What is the list?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
The list of names of people who the underaged girls were sex trafficked to, or alternatively the list of people who Epstein kept blackmail material on.
Those lists should heavily overlap.
The FBI has spoken to all of those girls. The FBI took away boxes and boxes of evidence, and NYPD said they found a safe full of thumb drives and CD's. Pretty much everyone who has been inside any of Epstein's houses commented on the number of cameras there. Epstein's phonebook is publicly available.
So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
With just that information (and I imagine they have much more) they should be able to re-create the "list."
Also, Epstein was likely working for intel agencies. So the the CIA should also have the full file and full list of anyone Epstein was blackmailing based on reports that Epstein submitted to them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
The list of names of people who the underaged girls were sex trafficked to, or alternatively the list of people who Epstein kept blackmail material on.
Those lists should heavily overlap.
The FBI has spoken to all of those girls. The FBI took away boxes and boxes of evidence, and NYPD said they found a safe full of thumb drives and CD's. Pretty much everyone who has been inside any of Epstein's houses commented on the number of cameras there. Epstein's phonebook is publicly available.
So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
With just that information (and I imagine they have much more) they should be able to re-create the "list."
Also, Epstein was likely working for intel agencies. So the the CIA should also have the full file and full list of anyone Epstein was blackmailing based on reports that Epstein submitted to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:16 AM (uCjyK)
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PDJT has done SO MUCH
the AutoPen thing interests me more at the moment - Epstein is dead and his works, while evil, have ended for now.
the AUTOPEN thing
it's huge
every time some asshat asks about Epstein/pedo shit, just answer with "The Biden Administration's works must be rescinded. They misused the autopen and many of those pardons are null"
the AutoPen thing interests me more at the moment - Epstein is dead and his works, while evil, have ended for now.
the AUTOPEN thing
it's huge
every time some asshat asks about Epstein/pedo shit, just answer with "The Biden Administration's works must be rescinded. They misused the autopen and many of those pardons are null"
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:17 AM (Pv3Rg)
50
all right, looking at all the new troll names, I'm going to dial down my concern about the Epstein files.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:17 AM (xcxpd)
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Right now, Trump is rolling like a juggernaut. Taking a side trip into Epstein would be throwing sand into the gears. Let's not. To me, flushing out the illegals and securing honest elections is more important.
One more point: a lot of the outrage at the Epstein episode is over what we think we know, not what we know we know.
One more point: a lot of the outrage at the Epstein episode is over what we think we know, not what we know we know.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:17 AM (AOsQT)
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The FBI has spoken to all of those girls. The FBI took away boxes and boxes of evidence, and NYPD said they found a safe full of thumb drives and CD's. Pretty much everyone who has been inside any of Epstein's houses commented on the number of cameras there. Epstein's phonebook is publicly available.
So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
With just that information (and I imagine they have much more) they should be able to re-create the "list."
Also, Epstein was likely working for intel agencies. So the the CIA should also have the full file and full list of anyone Epstein was blackmailing based on reports that Epstein submitted to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:16 AM (uCjyK)
This amuses me b/c the same thing could have been written for the Mar-a-Lago raid...and all the evidence the FBI "got"...
The FBI has spoken to all of those girls. The FBI took away boxes and boxes of evidence, and NYPD said they found a safe full of thumb drives and CD's. Pretty much everyone who has been inside any of Epstein's houses commented on the number of cameras there. Epstein's phonebook is publicly available.
So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
With just that information (and I imagine they have much more) they should be able to re-create the "list."
Also, Epstein was likely working for intel agencies. So the the CIA should also have the full file and full list of anyone Epstein was blackmailing based on reports that Epstein submitted to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:16 AM (uCjyK)
This amuses me b/c the same thing could have been written for the Mar-a-Lago raid...and all the evidence the FBI "got"...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (tOcjL)
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50 all right, looking at all the new troll names, I'm going to dial down my concern about the Epstein files.
bingo my man, very wise
bingo my man, very wise
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (Pv3Rg)
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My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
And Trump would defend them? I think not.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
Well, here we are.
I'm not sure if Trump is "defending" anyone, but he's certainly not "blowing the whole thing up" by releasing the CIA files on Jeffrey Epstein, which would be a real easy way of ending all speculation.
Clearly the Deep State does not want us talking about Epstein anymore, and Trump seems to be all in on that.
And Trump would defend them? I think not.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
Well, here we are.
I'm not sure if Trump is "defending" anyone, but he's certainly not "blowing the whole thing up" by releasing the CIA files on Jeffrey Epstein, which would be a real easy way of ending all speculation.
Clearly the Deep State does not want us talking about Epstein anymore, and Trump seems to be all in on that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew8)
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Buck your essay was fantastic, sorry I wanted to mention that first!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:19 AM (Pv3Rg)
57
Is John "penitentiary face" Brennan in jail?
Posted by: Because Epstein is dead at July 14, 2025 11:19 AM (XQo4F)
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It would have been nice if (if) it was known back when Bondi and her binders of bullshit were released that the "Epstein files" were an op that they'd said so then. The word is that the "files" have been doctored to create a certain narrative by deep state ticks who pass them up the chain.
And nobody questioned them until now.
The rank and file in Trump's administration need to start taking every piece of data, documentation and reevaluate it as likely bogus. Then go through the motions of confirming it through other channels. Quietly.
Trust no one.
And nobody questioned them until now.
The rank and file in Trump's administration need to start taking every piece of data, documentation and reevaluate it as likely bogus. Then go through the motions of confirming it through other channels. Quietly.
Trust no one.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:19 AM (Q4IgG)
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That's a related issue, but completely true. Paul Ryan and his team of "wonks" (remember that term) scoured the entire federal budget and determined there was absolutely nothing they could cut. The only deficit reduction that could be done would be by raising the social security retirement age. Which is clearly
a) not true
and
b) politically radioactive, especially since refer back to a.
Amendment:
1. The Congress shall present the President with a budget bill(s) at least one month prior to the end of the fiscal year. In any year where this deadline is not met, 10% of the House / Senate, drawn by random lot, shall be executed.
2. The budget bill(s) required by item 1 shall be written starting with a zero baseline. In any year in which a deficit is produced by the bill(s), 10% of the House / Senate, drawn by random lot, shall be executed.
3. In the event of a declared war, the Congressional budget may exceed revenues by a sum to be spent above normal military funding and spent entirely for the prosecution of the war. Any debt arising from the war must be retired, in its entirety, within 10 years of the end of the war.
a) not true
and
b) politically radioactive, especially since refer back to a.
Amendment:
1. The Congress shall present the President with a budget bill(s) at least one month prior to the end of the fiscal year. In any year where this deadline is not met, 10% of the House / Senate, drawn by random lot, shall be executed.
2. The budget bill(s) required by item 1 shall be written starting with a zero baseline. In any year in which a deficit is produced by the bill(s), 10% of the House / Senate, drawn by random lot, shall be executed.
3. In the event of a declared war, the Congressional budget may exceed revenues by a sum to be spent above normal military funding and spent entirely for the prosecution of the war. Any debt arising from the war must be retired, in its entirety, within 10 years of the end of the war.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
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That said, I refuse to join in with those seeking to blow up the Trump administration out of frustration that an “Epstein list” is not being released.
Not gonna "blow it up", but am extremely disappointed that it's business as usual.
Not gonna "blow it up", but am extremely disappointed that it's business as usual.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (+bLMA)
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Any 'Epstein List' if it exists would have dozens of names of totally innocent people who have had contact with Epstein. I don't think there is a separate 'list' of under age clients. Any blackmail material would be in the form of tapes and audio. No reason to keep a list except as an addition to those tapes.
Also if you believe there is a list and that Epstein was murdered you would have to believe he was stupid enough not to have a fail safe kill switch.
Also if you believe there is a list and that Epstein was murdered you would have to believe he was stupid enough not to have a fail safe kill switch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)
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all right, looking at all the new troll names, I'm going to dial down my concern about the Epstein files.
bingo my man, very wise
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (Pv3Rg)
We shouldn't forget the older troll-adjacent members too.
bingo my man, very wise
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (Pv3Rg)
We shouldn't forget the older troll-adjacent members too.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (g8Ew8)
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Not gonna "blow it up", but am extremely disappointed that it's business as usual.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (+bLMA)
I think that's more it than anything.
I didn't think Biden (or Kamala) would release any info on Epstein, because clearly they work(ed) for the deep state.
I don't think Jeb! or any mainstream R would either.
Trump said he would. A lot of us believed him, even if we were a bit skeptical after Trump 1.0.
And yet...
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (+bLMA)
I think that's more it than anything.
I didn't think Biden (or Kamala) would release any info on Epstein, because clearly they work(ed) for the deep state.
I don't think Jeb! or any mainstream R would either.
Trump said he would. A lot of us believed him, even if we were a bit skeptical after Trump 1.0.
And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (uCjyK)
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The media has picked up on it now and a Dem congressman wants to pass legislation demanding it be released .... Maybe the congressman should rethink that.. What is Trump releases it and it's full of Dems ? Maybe that was the plan all along.... Okay... Takes off tin foil hat
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)
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When Harry and the ASS troll are singing from the same hymnbook...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
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Good piece on the budget (chicken) hawks; it provided a lot of clarification concerning their myopic world view.
Posted by: Paco at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (mADJX)
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So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
Of Epstein boffing underaged girls all by his lonesome.
Pull my other leg. It plays Jingle Bells.
Of Epstein boffing underaged girls all by his lonesome.
Pull my other leg. It plays Jingle Bells.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:23 AM (+bLMA)
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Trump said he would. A lot of us believed him, even if we were a bit skeptical after Trump 1.0.
And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (uCjyK)
There were a lot of very loud voices that were put into specific positions for reasons such as this.
And they all capitulated.
I want them all to come out and say that they were very wrong in their prior beliefs, if I am to believe them now.
And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (uCjyK)
There were a lot of very loud voices that were put into specific positions for reasons such as this.
And they all capitulated.
I want them all to come out and say that they were very wrong in their prior beliefs, if I am to believe them now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:23 AM (KbCG3)
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When Harry and the ASS troll are singing from the same hymnbook...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
I scroll by his posts but that's what I would have guessed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
I scroll by his posts but that's what I would have guessed.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:24 AM (VofaG)
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66 When Harry and the ASS troll are singing from the same hymnbook...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
Yes, yes, I know. When talking about the Ukraine war, I'm a Putin puppet.
When talking about the Israeli wars, I'm an antisemite.
When talking about Epstein, I'm just a troll.
Do you guys get an email every morning with the agreed upon talking points for the day, or is this a Fox News thing I'm just out of the loop on?
I suspect if I spent my time looking at threads on this very website about Epstein from a year ago, you'd be singing a very different tune.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
Yes, yes, I know. When talking about the Ukraine war, I'm a Putin puppet.
When talking about the Israeli wars, I'm an antisemite.
When talking about Epstein, I'm just a troll.
Do you guys get an email every morning with the agreed upon talking points for the day, or is this a Fox News thing I'm just out of the loop on?
I suspect if I spent my time looking at threads on this very website about Epstein from a year ago, you'd be singing a very different tune.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
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Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
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>>It's like HW's "read my lips: no new taxes" pledge. Or Wilsons "I'll keep us out of war" pledge. Etc. etc.
__
No, it isn't. Not at all. Trump would have to come out for full amnesty and and open border for him to join the company of those betrayers.
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No, it isn't. Not at all. Trump would have to come out for full amnesty and and open border for him to join the company of those betrayers.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (bNf8H)
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Like many, I just want the truth. If the Trump Administration is dropping the Epstein case in toto, then (in my view) they need to tell us the unvarnished why of it. 'The mountain of evidence we told you about has magically disappeared' just doesn't cut it.
I suspect the whole thing was a joint CIA and Mossad operation intended to gain leverage over Epstein's clients, who almost certainly included Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew--presidents and princes, celebrities and political power players.
Do Trump and his people think the damage to the country revealing those names would be greater than any benefits bringing these powerful people to justice would incur? Probably. Do they think prosecuting, say, Bill Clinton, would serve as an enormous distraction and possibly derail Trump's agenda? No doubt.
If that's the case, then they should say so outright. They can keep such a declaration devoid of client names. This is about trust. This is about justice. Treat us like adults. We're not fucking children. We can take it.
I suspect the whole thing was a joint CIA and Mossad operation intended to gain leverage over Epstein's clients, who almost certainly included Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew--presidents and princes, celebrities and political power players.
Do Trump and his people think the damage to the country revealing those names would be greater than any benefits bringing these powerful people to justice would incur? Probably. Do they think prosecuting, say, Bill Clinton, would serve as an enormous distraction and possibly derail Trump's agenda? No doubt.
If that's the case, then they should say so outright. They can keep such a declaration devoid of client names. This is about trust. This is about justice. Treat us like adults. We're not fucking children. We can take it.
Posted by: troyriser at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (DPeYO)
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Whig and I have comments at the end of the last post that are salient and erudite.
Bottom line, very few pushing the "why hasn't Trump lined all the world's elite up and shot them?!" or variations to whatever lesser degree, are not honest dealers seeking a beneficial outcome for anyone but the world elite.
And yes, those "good guys" on right-wing media ... still have to put food on their table by selling views.
Comment I heard over the weekend:
Ignore the headlines, it's emotional manipulation to sell your attention.
Bottom line, very few pushing the "why hasn't Trump lined all the world's elite up and shot them?!" or variations to whatever lesser degree, are not honest dealers seeking a beneficial outcome for anyone but the world elite.
And yes, those "good guys" on right-wing media ... still have to put food on their table by selling views.
Comment I heard over the weekend:
Ignore the headlines, it's emotional manipulation to sell your attention.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (JThEY)
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@8
>>I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Epstein is never going away, so it would behoove the administration to come clean and stop covering up and expose the Deep State.
There is nothing stopping the administration from accomplishing things and revealing who was running Epstein.
They are the ones the created the situation and they can rectify it.
>>I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Epstein is never going away, so it would behoove the administration to come clean and stop covering up and expose the Deep State.
There is nothing stopping the administration from accomplishing things and revealing who was running Epstein.
They are the ones the created the situation and they can rectify it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (XV/Pl)
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Didn't know this before but Alan Dershowitz was involved in the investigation years ago, don't know in what capacity. In a recorded interview he said there are numerous rich, powerful people implicated but he has signed confidentiality agreements to not to disclose any names or any information about them. Not just a few, which we all assumed already but many. I found that interesting.
Posted by: Ripley at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (GUOwU)
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Any debt arising from the war must be retired, in its entirety, within 10 years of the end of the war.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
Then we execute a random 10% of congress.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
Then we execute a random 10% of congress.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (lPvx2)
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Any 'Epstein List' if it exists would have dozens of names of totally innocent people who have had contact with Epstein. I don't think there is a separate 'list' of under age clients. Any blackmail material would be in the form of tapes and audio. No reason to keep a list except as an addition to those tapes.
Also if you believe there is a list and that Epstein was murdered you would have to believe he was stupid enough not to have a fail safe kill switch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)
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The "client list" that people claim Dershowitz talks about really isn't a client list at all. Dersh talked about "names" that included men who he claims were falsely accused by Guiffree. And I'm sure there were some false accusations. Trump, for one.
Also if you believe there is a list and that Epstein was murdered you would have to believe he was stupid enough not to have a fail safe kill switch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)
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The "client list" that people claim Dershowitz talks about really isn't a client list at all. Dersh talked about "names" that included men who he claims were falsely accused by Guiffree. And I'm sure there were some false accusations. Trump, for one.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (iFTx/)
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72 Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
If stuff like this was in it why didn't Biden have it released ?
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
If stuff like this was in it why didn't Biden have it released ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (VE6XX)
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There were a lot of very loud voices that were put into specific positions for reasons such as this.
And they all capitulated.
I want them all to come out and say that they were very wrong in their prior beliefs, if I am to believe them now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:23 AM (KbCG3)
Agreed. We're just expected to move on and pretend none of that happened?
I never even listened to Bongino on whatever podcast he had or whatever, but I've seen clips of him ranting about Epstein (on twitter) for years.
Now he's saying "there's nothing there."
Kash Patel looked like he was a POW in Korea filming a "I hate America" hostage video when Rogan asked him about Epstein on his podcast. Guy is a terrible liar. All he could say was "do you really think the Russiagate guy, Kash Patel, would lie to you about this?!?"
And they all capitulated.
I want them all to come out and say that they were very wrong in their prior beliefs, if I am to believe them now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:23 AM (KbCG3)
Agreed. We're just expected to move on and pretend none of that happened?
I never even listened to Bongino on whatever podcast he had or whatever, but I've seen clips of him ranting about Epstein (on twitter) for years.
Now he's saying "there's nothing there."
Kash Patel looked like he was a POW in Korea filming a "I hate America" hostage video when Rogan asked him about Epstein on his podcast. Guy is a terrible liar. All he could say was "do you really think the Russiagate guy, Kash Patel, would lie to you about this?!?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (uCjyK)
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It's not the lists that bother me. It's the lies. Bondi's alligator mouth made promises her hummingbird ass couldn't keep.
Posted by: creeper at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (zFwIe)
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I tend to disagree with Harry Paratestes more than not, but I do defend his posting here.
He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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Bottom line, very few pushing the "why hasn't Trump lined all the world's elite up and shot them?!"
I mean...are you saying no?
I mean...are you saying no?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (Riz8t)
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Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLMA)
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I suspect if I spent my time looking at threads on this very website about Epstein from a year ago, you'd be singing a very different tune.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
———-
People get accused of blindly following Trump but as soon as MAGA people have a disagreement with Trump it’s all “get on board no matter what.”
There is no reason that this disagreement needs to be simply sweep under the rug.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
———-
People get accused of blindly following Trump but as soon as MAGA people have a disagreement with Trump it’s all “get on board no matter what.”
There is no reason that this disagreement needs to be simply sweep under the rug.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (Vh9CX)
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I'm wondering if we'll get a similar post when Trump tells you all to shut up about that thing he just did with your guns.
Posted by: No one. at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (CQ3Qb)
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@77
>>don't know in what capacity
Dershowitz was one of Epstein's Lawyers, he represented him in the Florida case.
He helped negotiate his wildly generous plea deal.
Dresh know sh*t, so that f**ker needs to be grilled.
>>don't know in what capacity
Dershowitz was one of Epstein's Lawyers, he represented him in the Florida case.
He helped negotiate his wildly generous plea deal.
Dresh know sh*t, so that f**ker needs to be grilled.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)
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78 Any debt arising from the war must be retired, in its entirety, within 10 years of the end of the war.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
Then we execute a random 10% of congress.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (lPvx2)
*perks up*
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
Then we execute a random 10% of congress.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (lPvx2)
*perks up*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (xcxpd)
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83 He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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I feel seen...
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
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The Hill, 'Biden hits back at Trump, GOP over autopen criticism: ‘They’re liars’ by Colin Meyn - 07/13/25
In part, "The former president accused Republicans of stirring up the autopen controversy as a distraction.
“They’ve lied so consistently about almost everything they’re doing. The best thing they can do is try to change the focus and focus on something else. And this is a — I think that’s what this is about,” he said."
That took some thought. While they're still firing up Epstein theories v. MAGA supporters.
Time to end Pizza Gate, Qnon and bring in new (including DOGE) for the next generations of agitators.
In part, "The former president accused Republicans of stirring up the autopen controversy as a distraction.
“They’ve lied so consistently about almost everything they’re doing. The best thing they can do is try to change the focus and focus on something else. And this is a — I think that’s what this is about,” he said."
That took some thought. While they're still firing up Epstein theories v. MAGA supporters.
Time to end Pizza Gate, Qnon and bring in new (including DOGE) for the next generations of agitators.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (NFX2v)
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This sounds like one of the most pernicious arguments from the Shrub years - namely that we need to win the WoT and everything else is secondary.
Which is...BS.
The Trump admin can work on the BBB, or targeted spending cuts, or whatever, AND prosecute the Epstein clients and Fauci and his minions.
Which is...BS.
The Trump admin can work on the BBB, or targeted spending cuts, or whatever, AND prosecute the Epstein clients and Fauci and his minions.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)
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72 Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
If stuff like this was in it why didn't Biden have it released ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (VE6XX)
Obviously this goes beyond partisan politics. I don't happen to think that Israel would be able to pull something like this off on US soil without the CIA knowing or being involved.
I suspect the CIA was the mastermind here, and this is just Deep State CYA nonsense at this point, as the CIA doesn't want to admit they control our politicians through blackmail, coercion, and other unpleasantness.
But this heavily implicating foreign policy is one possibility of why there is a strong bipartisan consensus to not release anything about this situation.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
If stuff like this was in it why didn't Biden have it released ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (VE6XX)
Obviously this goes beyond partisan politics. I don't happen to think that Israel would be able to pull something like this off on US soil without the CIA knowing or being involved.
I suspect the CIA was the mastermind here, and this is just Deep State CYA nonsense at this point, as the CIA doesn't want to admit they control our politicians through blackmail, coercion, and other unpleasantness.
But this heavily implicating foreign policy is one possibility of why there is a strong bipartisan consensus to not release anything about this situation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (uCjyK)
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I know what I don't know and concede everything I say is conjecture based on info only garnered from news reports. Others act like they sat in on the DOJ FBI meetings and had access to all the files with their definitive statements.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (VofaG)
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If you care about this epstein bullshit, I mean REALLY care, then You have problems.
This has absolutely ZERO impact on Your life.
Smarten up, dummies.
If you care about this epstein bullshit, I mean REALLY care, then You have problems.
This has absolutely ZERO impact on Your life.
Smarten up, dummies.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (IS8kY)
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What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
well I wouldn't need my "shocked face"
well I wouldn't need my "shocked face"
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Pv3Rg)
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The "client list" that people claim Dershowitz talks about really isn't a client list at all. Dersh talked about "names" that included men who he claims were falsely accused by Guiffree. And I'm sure there were some false accusations. Trump, for one.
The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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I tend to disagree with Harry Paratestes more than not, but I do defend his posting here.
He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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"What you talkin' 'bout?"
-- Trolly Trolltastic Troll
He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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"What you talkin' 'bout?"
-- Trolly Trolltastic Troll
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
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so, let me get this right, "Festive Little Hats" is code for "cervical cap for birth control", right?
I always feel left out of this new hep cat talk.
I always feel left out of this new hep cat talk.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (D7oie)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
Have you changed your mind from a few days ago?
Have you changed your mind from a few days ago?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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94 I know what I don't know and concede everything I say is conjecture based on info only garnered from news reports. Others act like they sat in on the DOJ FBI meetings and had access to all the files with their definitive statements.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (VofaG)
I'll be the first to admit it.. I have no clue on this...
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (VofaG)
I'll be the first to admit it.. I have no clue on this...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VE6XX)
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100 Have you changed your mind from a few days ago?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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About what?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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About what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
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I'm also not in jail.
Have you seen my new scarf collection? You can buy them on Etsy!
Have you seen my new scarf collection? You can buy them on Etsy!
Posted by: Deborah Birx at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (XQo4F)
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I'll repeat what I said below:
Destroying the power of the degenerate and despicable world elite will be far more painful to them and longer-lasting than any "justice" meted out via transient or dubious success of any criminal prosecution.
Trump is the nuclear threat to that power.
Think of it as demanding your knight charge the 100-foot rock walls of the castle--NOW!!--instead of destroying the castle walls first.
Destroying the power of the degenerate and despicable world elite will be far more painful to them and longer-lasting than any "justice" meted out via transient or dubious success of any criminal prosecution.
Trump is the nuclear threat to that power.
Think of it as demanding your knight charge the 100-foot rock walls of the castle--NOW!!--instead of destroying the castle walls first.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (JThEY)
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What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLM
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Outraged of course. And hope people get sent to jail.
If it was a foreign country doing it then all diplomats should be expelled from the USA with demands that the leadership of that country resign and crippling financial sanctions imposed.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLM
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Outraged of course. And hope people get sent to jail.
If it was a foreign country doing it then all diplomats should be expelled from the USA with demands that the leadership of that country resign and crippling financial sanctions imposed.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (Vh9CX)
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Cutting spending is hard because there are no direct negative consequences for Congress for spending more then they should.
Yes if they spend enough, like during the Biden years they cause hyperinflation but even so the response is fairly muted.
Does some Dem Rep from a Blue Shitty elected like clock work through fraud really care? Hell no.
Yes if they spend enough, like during the Biden years they cause hyperinflation but even so the response is fairly muted.
Does some Dem Rep from a Blue Shitty elected like clock work through fraud really care? Hell no.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (t0Rmr)
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>>> What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
"deep state gonna deep state"
"deep state gonna deep state"
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (jGJov)
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Comment I heard over the weekend:
Ignore the headlines, it's emotional manipulation to sell your attention.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (JThEY)
This is true about every single "news" story. There hasn't been anything reported by anyone ever since they were still putting feathers in caps and naming them after pasta that wasn't entirely motivated by emotional manipulation.
It's almost to the point of being a kind of inversion. It isn't so much that there was once something we called "the news" but it one day became mostly about emotional manipulation by Those Bastards. It's that there's a whole lot of emotional manipulation to be done and one day it started to be called "the news".
This pre-dates America by centuries. It probably pre-dates writing itself, for crying out loud.
Ignore the headlines, it's emotional manipulation to sell your attention.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (JThEY)
This is true about every single "news" story. There hasn't been anything reported by anyone ever since they were still putting feathers in caps and naming them after pasta that wasn't entirely motivated by emotional manipulation.
It's almost to the point of being a kind of inversion. It isn't so much that there was once something we called "the news" but it one day became mostly about emotional manipulation by Those Bastards. It's that there's a whole lot of emotional manipulation to be done and one day it started to be called "the news".
This pre-dates America by centuries. It probably pre-dates writing itself, for crying out loud.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (VoAdT)
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Quicksand sinks all wagons. Move on to what we want and not what we find tempting. Epstein at this point is quicksand. Its a TRAP.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (W3T6M)
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oooh. nice metaphor People's Hippo
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (Pv3Rg)
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He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
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I feel seen...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
*weighs Prometheus love against Ozu love*
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
*weighs Prometheus love against Ozu love*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
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If it was a foreign country doing it then all diplomats should be expelled from the USA with demands that the leadership of that country resign and crippling financial sanctions imposed.
I think Britain was formerly running Epstein, with full access from our government through Five Eyes.
Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
If it was a foreign country doing it then all diplomats should be expelled from the USA with demands that the leadership of that country resign and crippling financial sanctions imposed.
I think Britain was formerly running Epstein, with full access from our government through Five Eyes.
Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (t0Rmr)
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Have you changed your mind from a few days ago?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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About what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
How did I know you were going to say that?
Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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About what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
How did I know you were going to say that?
Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (VofaG)
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AND prosecute the Epstein clients and Fauci and his minions.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)
You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
Epstein and Maxwell did the trafficking. Nobody else found and moved the women/girls. If anything, you could hit the powerful for the Diddy "paid for prostitution" charge which is a nothing, and as mentioned, is outside the statute.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)
You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
Epstein and Maxwell did the trafficking. Nobody else found and moved the women/girls. If anything, you could hit the powerful for the Diddy "paid for prostitution" charge which is a nothing, and as mentioned, is outside the statute.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (tOcjL)
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A strongly worded letter will be fine.
Posted by: Dirac_Delta at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (+Xwnt)
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106 Does some Dem Rep from a Blue Shitty elected like clock work through fraud really care? Hell no.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (t0Rmr)
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I just wish the Freedom Caucus had banded together 10 years ago to horsetrade their votes by getting specific, long-running pork cut from CRs and budgets as their prices for votes.
15 years of, "Sure, I'll vote for this, if you cut this $1 billion program," from like 20 Reps could have made a dent.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (t0Rmr)
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I just wish the Freedom Caucus had banded together 10 years ago to horsetrade their votes by getting specific, long-running pork cut from CRs and budgets as their prices for votes.
15 years of, "Sure, I'll vote for this, if you cut this $1 billion program," from like 20 Reps could have made a dent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
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I still believe fiscal responsibility is worth fighting for (although it may already be too late )
I still believe there ought to be transparency with what was happening in Jeff Epstein's Jailbait Island.
I don't think wanting these things makes me an enemy of the other parts of Trump's agenda.
I still believe there ought to be transparency with what was happening in Jeff Epstein's Jailbait Island.
I don't think wanting these things makes me an enemy of the other parts of Trump's agenda.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (Ieyo8)
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113 How did I know you were going to say that?
Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (VofaG)
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Man, I comment way too much here.
Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (VofaG)
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Man, I comment way too much here.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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I'll be the first to admit it.. I have no clue on this...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VE6XX)
Me neither. But all the arguing is a fun read.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VE6XX)
Me neither. But all the arguing is a fun read.
Posted by: one hour sober at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (Y1sOo)
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Less than 12 months ago, the Department of Injustice was STILL rounding up Jan 6 partcipants.
So excuse me if I don't give a FLYING FUCK about epstein.
Because I Remember.
I can remember *before* the last Fake News cycle. I remember all the Shit we were going through the last 5 years, and how close we came to being an official Enemy of the State, and living in a third-world shithole banana republic.
Less than 12 months ago, the Department of Injustice was STILL rounding up Jan 6 partcipants.
So excuse me if I don't give a FLYING FUCK about epstein.
Because I Remember.
I can remember *before* the last Fake News cycle. I remember all the Shit we were going through the last 5 years, and how close we came to being an official Enemy of the State, and living in a third-world shithole banana republic.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (IS8kY)
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111 *weighs Prometheus love against Ozu love*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
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Again, why exposing the Epstein Op is crucial is because the Op wasn't directed at foreign "enemies," it was essentially directed at the people of the Western World and Anglospshere to maintain control over them.
If you've ever wondered why can't seem to ever get what we want from our politician, the Epstein Op is the reason.
If you've ever wondered why can't seem to ever get what we want from our politician, the Epstein Op is the reason.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (XV/Pl)
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The simplest explanation for the opacity of the Epstein investigation is that powerful people are being protected.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (Ieyo8)
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Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
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Britain clings to NATO as its only semi empire. It wants to keep its upstart brother in NATO and cutting checks.
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Britain clings to NATO as its only semi empire. It wants to keep its upstart brother in NATO and cutting checks.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (W3T6M)
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I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
See: Donald Trump
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
See: Donald Trump
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (VE6XX)
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You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
Then Trump et al. need to say so. I doubt most people here really care about seeing these people serving long sentences. They want public humiliations galore for the high and mighty who have behaved badly. Simply releasing the information would accomplish that.
Then Trump et al. need to say so. I doubt most people here really care about seeing these people serving long sentences. They want public humiliations galore for the high and mighty who have behaved badly. Simply releasing the information would accomplish that.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t)
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You know what I Really Care about??
I care about stopping California Democrats from STEALING more House seats in 2026 & 2028.
You know what I Really Care about??
I care about stopping California Democrats from STEALING more House seats in 2026 & 2028.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (IS8kY)
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The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
And it would have been SO EASY for Trump's team to come out and say "well... we reviewed everything and we can't find any lists or evidence. So either the FBI never had it and the CIA is lying to us, or it never existed."
Rogan even pushed Patel on this point. Patel said no videos exist (except child porn of Epstein and young girls and he wouldn't "re-victimize the women" by releasing THAT), and there is no list. Definitely said that. No hedging on "it probably once existed but now doesn't."
And the narrative is now that Epstein was a lone wolf pedophile, except for Ghislaine who is in jail for sex trafficking although there is no list of people who she trafficked the girls to.
And Acosta was lying or whatever when he said he was told Epstein worked for intelligence.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
And it would have been SO EASY for Trump's team to come out and say "well... we reviewed everything and we can't find any lists or evidence. So either the FBI never had it and the CIA is lying to us, or it never existed."
Rogan even pushed Patel on this point. Patel said no videos exist (except child porn of Epstein and young girls and he wouldn't "re-victimize the women" by releasing THAT), and there is no list. Definitely said that. No hedging on "it probably once existed but now doesn't."
And the narrative is now that Epstein was a lone wolf pedophile, except for Ghislaine who is in jail for sex trafficking although there is no list of people who she trafficked the girls to.
And Acosta was lying or whatever when he said he was told Epstein worked for intelligence.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (uCjyK)
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The "client list" that people claim Dershowitz talks about really isn't a client list at all. Dersh talked about "names" that included men who he claims were falsely accused by Guiffree. And I'm sure there were some false accusations. Trump, for one.
The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (iFTx/)
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I suspect that Epstein Island was a honeypot and recruitment tool for the WEF, and that org shared enough dirt with the CIA that they allowed it continue.
And if Trump and his people now have some of that kompromat in their hands, then they can use it to apply pressure to certain politicians that need pressuring.
And if Trump and his people now have some of that kompromat in their hands, then they can use it to apply pressure to certain politicians that need pressuring.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (gRLf5)
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123 Again, why exposing the Epstein Op is crucial is because the Op wasn't directed at foreign "enemies," it was essentially directed at the people of the Western World and Anglospshere to maintain control over them.
If you've ever wondered why can't seem to ever get what we want from our politician, the Epstein Op is the reason.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (XV/Pl)
Well, one of the reasons.
If you've ever wondered why can't seem to ever get what we want from our politician, the Epstein Op is the reason.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (XV/Pl)
Well, one of the reasons.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (KbCG3)
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If the clients cannot be prosecuted, that is even more reason to release their identities.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (Ieyo8)
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I cant even remember how I guessed on the NYE Epstein question. I care far more about cutting taxpayer funding for the NGOs that exist just to elect commiecrats. After 4 years of Biden's people heading the FBI and CIA I doubt there is much of an Epstein list remaining. Possibly they left only the names of Rs and conservative types.
If they did that; I'm not rooting for those folks to just skate, but there would be a calculus of "the FNM will say only Rs, and conservatives were Epstein clients, is it worth putting commies back in charge to release only this part of the list?" If the good guys do have those names, perhaps they will go after the sleazeballs for other things.
If they did that; I'm not rooting for those folks to just skate, but there would be a calculus of "the FNM will say only Rs, and conservatives were Epstein clients, is it worth putting commies back in charge to release only this part of the list?" If the good guys do have those names, perhaps they will go after the sleazeballs for other things.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (bP/i4)
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121 111 *weighs Prometheus love against Ozu love*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
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*throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
*decides on 'troll'*
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*throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
*decides on 'troll'*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (xcxpd)
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You know what I Really Care about??
I care about stopping California Democrats from STEALING more House seats in 2026 & 2028.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (IS8kY)
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42-9.
I guess they could steal one or two more, but I really feel like they're maxed out.
You know what I Really Care about??
I care about stopping California Democrats from STEALING more House seats in 2026 & 2028.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (IS8kY)
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42-9.
I guess they could steal one or two more, but I really feel like they're maxed out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLMA)
at the very least, firing the idiots who OK'd it, and getting the girls pensions and VA benefits.
If it is Mossa then the Israelis can fund it.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLMA)
at the very least, firing the idiots who OK'd it, and getting the girls pensions and VA benefits.
If it is Mossa then the Israelis can fund it.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 11:37 AM (D7oie)
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135 *throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
*decides on 'troll'*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (xcxpd)
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I've never denied it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
*decides on 'troll'*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (xcxpd)
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I've never denied it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
*side eyes*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
*side eyes*
Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (wVcYX)
140
138 135 *throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
I like Escape from LA.. It's so bad it's good..
138 135 *throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
I like Escape from LA.. It's so bad it's good..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (VE6XX)
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lmao, what cowardly bullshit
"I want answers as much as you guys! But I dunno, let's let the whole child sex trafficking stuff slide..."
This is craven bootlicking. I'm glad that judging by the lack of Twitter interactions, other people are as unimpressed by this pathetic bullshit as I am.
"I want answers as much as you guys! But I dunno, let's let the whole child sex trafficking stuff slide..."
This is craven bootlicking. I'm glad that judging by the lack of Twitter interactions, other people are as unimpressed by this pathetic bullshit as I am.
Posted by: deepelemblues at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (ipV99)
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72 Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Slow down there Tucker.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Slow down there Tucker.
Posted by: ADL at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (stEYJ)
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I think Epstein was more interested in getting the high rollers he was "entertaining" to bankroll his financial adventures than anything else. If they needed to be prodded into giving him large sums of money he had photos to prod them with.
Maybe it's not some convoluted operation involving intelligence agencies. The issues surrounding human trafficking certainly need to be explored, but the overall situation is probably a lot less.... interesting.
Like I said upthread; the administration needs to start taking all the intelligence info they're being fed and double/triple check it authenticity.
Maybe it's not some convoluted operation involving intelligence agencies. The issues surrounding human trafficking certainly need to be explored, but the overall situation is probably a lot less.... interesting.
Like I said upthread; the administration needs to start taking all the intelligence info they're being fed and double/triple check it authenticity.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
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The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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122 You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
And Trump has been trying to get away from that and reinforce rule of law - actual law. Why would we want him to stop doing that?
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
And Trump has been trying to get away from that and reinforce rule of law - actual law. Why would we want him to stop doing that?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (tOcjL)
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Then Trump et al. need to say so. I doubt most people here really care about seeing these people serving long sentences. They want public humiliations galore for the high and mighty who have behaved badly. Simply releasing the information would accomplish that.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t)
I don't care if we give all of the John's full immunity at this point.
We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t)
I don't care if we give all of the John's full immunity at this point.
We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
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The feds hunted down every person who was within a mile of the Capitol on January 6. It is difficult to believe they don't know who Epstein's clients were.
Ghislaine's little black book was sealed by a judge. Remember that?
Ghislaine's little black book was sealed by a judge. Remember that?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (Ieyo8)
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The diabolical Doctor Fauci has arguably killed way more people than were ever harmed by Epstein, yet somehow remains untouchable.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)
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I just wish the Freedom Caucus had banded together 10 years ago to horsetrade their votes by getting specific, long-running pork cut from CRs and budgets as their prices for votes.
I think the general approach to handling spending it wrong here, and I think we aren't considering the big picture enough.
The old model is that the government wastes money and spends too much overall so let's find the most wasteful bits and cut those.
When we succeed then we cut small potato things that get swamped by new wasteful spending.
Instead think of the budget as a conflict. Our goal should be to end, or at least reduce, any and all spending that primarily benefits the left. This means wasteful rightwing spending will accrue which I don't care about. Why? Because once we get in this mode the left will target THAT spending.
With both sides cutting spending we might actually get somewhere. And since the left is much more dependent on this spending we'll be hurting them the whole time.
I think the general approach to handling spending it wrong here, and I think we aren't considering the big picture enough.
The old model is that the government wastes money and spends too much overall so let's find the most wasteful bits and cut those.
When we succeed then we cut small potato things that get swamped by new wasteful spending.
Instead think of the budget as a conflict. Our goal should be to end, or at least reduce, any and all spending that primarily benefits the left. This means wasteful rightwing spending will accrue which I don't care about. Why? Because once we get in this mode the left will target THAT spending.
With both sides cutting spending we might actually get somewhere. And since the left is much more dependent on this spending we'll be hurting them the whole time.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (t0Rmr)
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We have an institutionalized system of Injustice at the highest levels of government.
It's not focused around party politics, much as it may seem, it's not focused around wealth gathering, it's not focused on race. It is about power, taking it from the people and putting into their hands.
They want to run the country and they do not want interference, exposure, or accessibility. That is behind Jan 6, behind Epstein's murder and coverup, and pretty much every other scandal that matters.
It's not focused around party politics, much as it may seem, it's not focused around wealth gathering, it's not focused on race. It is about power, taking it from the people and putting into their hands.
They want to run the country and they do not want interference, exposure, or accessibility. That is behind Jan 6, behind Epstein's murder and coverup, and pretty much every other scandal that matters.
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Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (IS8kY)
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I like Escape from LA.. It's so bad it's good..
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Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (W3T6M)
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148 The diabolical Doctor Fauci has arguably killed way more people than were ever harmed by Epstein, yet somehow remains untouchable.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)
"Presidential" pardon, even.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)
"Presidential" pardon, even.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (xcxpd)
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I can remember *before* the last Fake News cycle. I remember all the Shit we were going through the last 5 years, and how close we came to being an official Enemy of the State, and living in a third-world shithole banana republic.
exactly Sooth
and yesterday - think about what almost happened a year ago yesterday.
If the Left had succeeded there, think where we'd be
there's a lot of work to be done on things active now. the Epstein op is no longer active. it's not a rush rush, not anymore.
cleaning up elections, cutting govt, and improving things for American citizens should be the focus
exactly Sooth
and yesterday - think about what almost happened a year ago yesterday.
If the Left had succeeded there, think where we'd be
there's a lot of work to be done on things active now. the Epstein op is no longer active. it's not a rush rush, not anymore.
cleaning up elections, cutting govt, and improving things for American citizens should be the focus
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (Pv3Rg)
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Less than 12 months ago, the Department of Injustice was STILL rounding up Jan 6 partcipants.
So excuse me if I don't give a FLYING FUCK about epstein.
Because I Remember.
I do too. That's precisely WHY I care. Because J6'ers were being locked up for nothing while those fucking little kids skate.
So excuse me if I don't give a FLYING FUCK about epstein.
Because I Remember.
I do too. That's precisely WHY I care. Because J6'ers were being locked up for nothing while those fucking little kids skate.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (+bLMA)
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This is all BS
Bondi needs to come out and say she was told by the previous administration hat there were boxes of Epstein files and videos. Upon further examination, these "files" we e all known documents and all the original files and thumb drives and videos were destroyed by the previous administration. We are investigating who ordered the destruction and when it occurred. And apologize to the American people and the president.
Bondi needs to come out and say she was told by the previous administration hat there were boxes of Epstein files and videos. Upon further examination, these "files" we e all known documents and all the original files and thumb drives and videos were destroyed by the previous administration. We are investigating who ordered the destruction and when it occurred. And apologize to the American people and the president.
Posted by: Megthered at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (GOJbT)
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The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (iFTx/)
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And Trump has been trying to get away from that and reinforce rule of law - actual law. Why would we want him to stop doing that?
Because politics doesn't work like that. Like in Game Theory if you always choose "cooperate" even when they choose "betray" you will never win.
Trump should take the same attitude the Junta took against the J6 protestors and crank it to 11. Every Epstein client, every BLM/antifa leader, every Fauci minion should be looking at the J6 process on steroids.
Because politics doesn't work like that. Like in Game Theory if you always choose "cooperate" even when they choose "betray" you will never win.
Trump should take the same attitude the Junta took against the J6 protestors and crank it to 11. Every Epstein client, every BLM/antifa leader, every Fauci minion should be looking at the J6 process on steroids.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (IS8kY)
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149 Instead think of the budget as a conflict. Our goal should be to end, or at least reduce, any and all spending that primarily benefits the left. This means wasteful rightwing spending will accrue which I don't care about. Why? Because once we get in this mode the left will target THAT spending.
With both sides cutting spending we might actually get somewhere. And since the left is much more dependent on this spending we'll be hurting them the whole time.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (t0Rmr)
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That was kind of my thought.
"This funding of a research facility in MA-03 must be cut for my vote."
-Freedom Caucus member
"I have no idea what's going on because I'm a backbencher who doesn't read legislation."
-Rep for MA-03
With both sides cutting spending we might actually get somewhere. And since the left is much more dependent on this spending we'll be hurting them the whole time.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (t0Rmr)
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That was kind of my thought.
"This funding of a research facility in MA-03 must be cut for my vote."
-Freedom Caucus member
"I have no idea what's going on because I'm a backbencher who doesn't read legislation."
-Rep for MA-03
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
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They want to run the country and they do not want interference, exposure, or accessibility. That is behind Jan 6, behind Epstein's murder and coverup, and pretty much every other scandal that matters.
There is iron in your words of death. The "elites" fear exposure more than jail, because exposure would cause too many people to conclude they really aren't "elites" at all, and don't deserve power.
There is iron in your words of death. The "elites" fear exposure more than jail, because exposure would cause too many people to conclude they really aren't "elites" at all, and don't deserve power.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
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there's a lot of work to be done on things active now. the Epstein op is no longer active. it's not a rush rush, not anymore.
cleaning up elections, cutting govt, and improving things for American citizens should be the focus
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (Pv3Rg)
Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
cleaning up elections, cutting govt, and improving things for American citizens should be the focus
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (Pv3Rg)
Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
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if this is a conspiracy then its the most successful conspiracy with hundreds of conspirators who are enemies with each other otherwise.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
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The left under the Junta: The Epstein thing is a conspiracy theory just like Pizzagate. There is no there there. You just like to accuse people you don't like of being Pedos
The left now: Trump won't prosecute the Epstein clients because he is one. He's a PEDO!!!
The left now: Trump won't prosecute the Epstein clients because he is one. He's a PEDO!!!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (t0Rmr)
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>Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
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Fun Fact: The President and First Lady will travel to the UK in September for an official state visit.
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Fun Fact: The President and First Lady will travel to the UK in September for an official state visit.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (AOsQT)
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I paid $2.71 for a dozen eggs yesterday.
I paid $2.71 for a dozen eggs yesterday.
Posted by: So there's that at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (XQo4F)
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No arrests for COVID crimes.
No arrests for Epstein’s clients.
No Big Pharma executives arrested.
No human traffickers arrested.
No election fraudsters arrested.
No climate scam operators arrested.
No Ukraine money launderers arrested.
Welcome to the clown world: justice is dead.
No arrests for Epstein’s clients.
No Big Pharma executives arrested.
No human traffickers arrested.
No election fraudsters arrested.
No climate scam operators arrested.
No Ukraine money launderers arrested.
Welcome to the clown world: justice is dead.
Posted by: kilroy at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (QMNUD)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Because it brought in votes?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Because it brought in votes?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (gRLf5)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
something changed, clearly
events, my dear. fluidity. it's a thing.
I assume they know the landscape has somehow shifted. I don't think they were being duplicitous then. but they weren't in govt yet.
something changed, clearly
events, my dear. fluidity. it's a thing.
I assume they know the landscape has somehow shifted. I don't think they were being duplicitous then. but they weren't in govt yet.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (Pv3Rg)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
You know, we've only had about a decade to judge, but I don't think Trump is very good at thinking ahead and controlling his impulses. Just a thought.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
You know, we've only had about a decade to judge, but I don't think Trump is very good at thinking ahead and controlling his impulses. Just a thought.
Posted by: deepelemblues at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (ipV99)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Politicians make big things about everything that makes their opponent look bad before an election. Unlike others, Trump has actually followed through on a bunch of things...this is actually unusual...
Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Politicians make big things about everything that makes their opponent look bad before an election. Unlike others, Trump has actually followed through on a bunch of things...this is actually unusual...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (tOcjL)
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the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
That's where I'm at. They jailed murdering gangsters for tax evasion back in the day. Anything they could get them on just to get alleged shitheads off the streets.
Look at what they tried against Trump.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
That's where I'm at. They jailed murdering gangsters for tax evasion back in the day. Anything they could get them on just to get alleged shitheads off the streets.
Look at what they tried against Trump.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (lPvx2)
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My wife took my son to CostCo and he was able to buy 36 beers for less than a dollar each. Future Leader was shocked and pleased.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (W3T6M)
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lol, PDT was just lamenting about biden also choosing the Resolute Desk...
lol, PDT was just lamenting about biden also choosing the Resolute Desk...
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (IS8kY)
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I think the general approach to handling spending it wrong here, and I think we aren't considering the big picture enough.
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The thing about spending is that you can't cut it until the Boomers are no longer a voting base. Not just because they are unwilling to cut their own benefits - they aren't. It is because radical spending cuts are going to be ... radical. Getting the Boomer generation, which is still a huge and reliable voting block, to do something radical in their old age is unlikely. They spent their whole lives living in a post-WWII consensus that no longer exists, except it their minds as they believe the present is similar to the past. It is not. I believe radical change, such as drastic spending cuts, may be more palatable to an electorate that is not clinging to a political dynamic that no longer exists.
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The thing about spending is that you can't cut it until the Boomers are no longer a voting base. Not just because they are unwilling to cut their own benefits - they aren't. It is because radical spending cuts are going to be ... radical. Getting the Boomer generation, which is still a huge and reliable voting block, to do something radical in their old age is unlikely. They spent their whole lives living in a post-WWII consensus that no longer exists, except it their minds as they believe the present is similar to the past. It is not. I believe radical change, such as drastic spending cuts, may be more palatable to an electorate that is not clinging to a political dynamic that no longer exists.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (sX1BW)
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Epstein is not the issue; it's transparency, honesty, integrity, and trust ... which is significant component of what I voted for.
Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (3qTJD)
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This Epstein "OMG, Trump betrayed us!" bullshit reminds me of the True Conservatives screaming last October:
"Trump has betrayed the pro-life movement! He refuses to support a federal ban on abortions!!"
It was a vile poison pill coated in pro-life rhetoric, the sole purpose was to kill the candidacy of the most pro-life President in history.
And usher in the most pro-abortion candidate in history.
But this time, this time for realz, they are honest dealers, merely seeking justice for the victims ....
"Trump has betrayed the pro-life movement! He refuses to support a federal ban on abortions!!"
It was a vile poison pill coated in pro-life rhetoric, the sole purpose was to kill the candidacy of the most pro-life President in history.
And usher in the most pro-abortion candidate in history.
But this time, this time for realz, they are honest dealers, merely seeking justice for the victims ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (JThEY)
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Someone on the raydio mentioned that President Trump may be holding onto the Epstein list and stuff to use as leverage over the various sodomites, perverts, chomos and homosexuals he has to deal with like Lindsey Graham and Luap Dnar.
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Posted by: Playing Hard Ball at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (rfMRc)
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Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
Fuck you too buddy.
I mean, yours is the most fake of all time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
Fuck you too buddy.
I mean, yours is the most fake of all time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Because Trump is a fan of all the internet conspiracies just like many here. He promised the same with UFOs and JFK.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Because Trump is a fan of all the internet conspiracies just like many here. He promised the same with UFOs and JFK.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (VofaG)
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Did Trump make a big deal about Epstein?
I didn't watch many of his speeches, but I don't remember him ever mentioning it.
I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
I didn't watch many of his speeches, but I don't remember him ever mentioning it.
I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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That was kind of my thought.
"This funding of a research facility in MA-03 must be cut for my vote."
-Freedom Caucus member
Ah ok then we are in alignment! But TBH I hear pretty much no one in the right-o-sphere with this take.
"This funding of a research facility in MA-03 must be cut for my vote."
-Freedom Caucus member
Ah ok then we are in alignment! But TBH I hear pretty much no one in the right-o-sphere with this take.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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They want to run the country and they do not want interference, exposure, or accessibility. That is behind Jan 6, behind Epstein's murder and coverup, and pretty much every other scandal that matters.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
Exactly. This is all symptoms of the same disease -- the Deep State taking over the government and fucking over US citizens in the process of themselves and their people getting rich and powerful.
Now I imagine we'll soon be at the point where saying there is a "Deep State" is a crazy conspiracy theory, but the same type people involved in the Hunter Laptop disinformation campaign were involved in the Epstein situation.
Probably in some cases the exact same people.
They are openly and brazenly lying to the American people. There are no repercussions for it, and they continue to do so. So if you're pissed about the fake insurrection, then you should be equally pissed by the Ukraine Op or the Epstein Op, both carried out by the same types of people.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
Exactly. This is all symptoms of the same disease -- the Deep State taking over the government and fucking over US citizens in the process of themselves and their people getting rich and powerful.
Now I imagine we'll soon be at the point where saying there is a "Deep State" is a crazy conspiracy theory, but the same type people involved in the Hunter Laptop disinformation campaign were involved in the Epstein situation.
Probably in some cases the exact same people.
They are openly and brazenly lying to the American people. There are no repercussions for it, and they continue to do so. So if you're pissed about the fake insurrection, then you should be equally pissed by the Ukraine Op or the Epstein Op, both carried out by the same types of people.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uCjyK)
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if this is a conspiracy then its the most successful conspiracy with hundreds of conspirators who are enemies with each other otherwise.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
*makes Call Me gesture to Dershowitz* I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
*makes Call Me gesture to Dershowitz* I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
Posted by: Robert Kraft at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (wVcYX)
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142 72 Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Slow down there Tucker.
Posted by: ADL at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (stEYJ)
Along those lines, just different (but similar) culprit - what if Trump and his cabinet have decided it is not in US interests, at this time, to reveal that US intelligence agencies have been controlling, through blackmail, most European Governments for at least the last 20 years? And yes, a couple of them (Almost certainly the Brits) were in on it, too.
Not to mention the consequences of revealing that the US Government has been running an underage sex trafficking ring for decades.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Slow down there Tucker.
Posted by: ADL at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (stEYJ)
Along those lines, just different (but similar) culprit - what if Trump and his cabinet have decided it is not in US interests, at this time, to reveal that US intelligence agencies have been controlling, through blackmail, most European Governments for at least the last 20 years? And yes, a couple of them (Almost certainly the Brits) were in on it, too.
Not to mention the consequences of revealing that the US Government has been running an underage sex trafficking ring for decades.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uWKK8)
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I suspect the List was what was already released: a list of flight logs and such.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
Yes, this. I repeat myself, but the List obsessives apparently think that Epstein kept a set of invoices naming each client and specifying the goods and services provided to each. Any real list isn't going to be more than the contact info and flight logs we already have.
The Epstein saga, on the Internet anyway, has gathered so many accretions that it's become essentially disconnected from reality and turned into a myth, partly because it's got something for everyone. The QAnon and Pizzagate people see it as proof of the elite child-trafficking ring--never mind the fact that Epstein and Maxwell were procuring underage but post-pubescent girls--i.e., disgusting but "traditional" prostitution; we're not talking about abducting five-year-olds from playgrounds, but grooming vulnerable young teenage girls. (1 of 1)
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
Yes, this. I repeat myself, but the List obsessives apparently think that Epstein kept a set of invoices naming each client and specifying the goods and services provided to each. Any real list isn't going to be more than the contact info and flight logs we already have.
The Epstein saga, on the Internet anyway, has gathered so many accretions that it's become essentially disconnected from reality and turned into a myth, partly because it's got something for everyone. The QAnon and Pizzagate people see it as proof of the elite child-trafficking ring--never mind the fact that Epstein and Maxwell were procuring underage but post-pubescent girls--i.e., disgusting but "traditional" prostitution; we're not talking about abducting five-year-olds from playgrounds, but grooming vulnerable young teenage girls. (1 of 1)
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (1pand)
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181 Did Trump make a big deal about Epstein?
I didn't watch many of his speeches, but I don't remember him ever mentioning it.
I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Yes, he spoke about it at rallies, and at length on Rogan and Theo Vons podcasts (and I'm sure in other places, that's where I happened to hear him talking about it.)
I didn't watch many of his speeches, but I don't remember him ever mentioning it.
I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Yes, he spoke about it at rallies, and at length on Rogan and Theo Vons podcasts (and I'm sure in other places, that's where I happened to hear him talking about it.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uCjyK)
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A single 15-year-old, high-end hooker is a tragedy; 1,000 is a statistic.
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (2yoRf)
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Trump live, talking about the autopen scandal. That's going to end up pushing the Epstein horseshit off the front page. Whether people like it or not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)
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Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in New York because he was indicted on federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in New York because he was indicted on federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
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Our Favorite President(tm) live now with the NATO guy:
https://is.gd/jkF3Ov
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (IS8kY)
Trump just absolutely ripped the Biden junta’s use of the autopen. I enjoy when he goes nuclear like that; named names including someone who worked for Biden named “Lisa” if I heard him correctly. Who’s that?
https://is.gd/jkF3Ov
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (IS8kY)
Trump just absolutely ripped the Biden junta’s use of the autopen. I enjoy when he goes nuclear like that; named names including someone who worked for Biden named “Lisa” if I heard him correctly. Who’s that?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (P/Wjn)
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182 Ah ok then we are in alignment! But TBH I hear pretty much no one in the right-o-sphere with this take.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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I came to the thought when I wondered what Massie should have done on the Rules Committee.
Be like a reverse Ron Paul. Get specific cuts in and then vote against the whole bill because it's bad while being able to point to the cuts for his base.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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I came to the thought when I wondered what Massie should have done on the Rules Committee.
Be like a reverse Ron Paul. Get specific cuts in and then vote against the whole bill because it's bad while being able to point to the cuts for his base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)
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163 if this is a conspiracy then its the most successful conspiracy with hundreds of conspirators who are enemies with each other otherwise.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes
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Yep but he managed to get Giuffre to shut up about it legally.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes
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Yep but he managed to get Giuffre to shut up about it legally.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (ctrM5)
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@146
>>We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We know from the bits and pieces of data points that Epstein's schemes involved people from Wall Street, Academia, Politics, Tech, the f**ker was blackmailing everybody.
Again, we need to find out how a math teacher hired by Bill Barr's dad became a wall street big shot, to hob knobbing with the creme de la creme of the elite, all the while running an international underage prostitution and child **** ring that apparently trafficked to nobody.
The whole idea that this is distracting the administration from doing other sh*t is laughable.
There are 38k FBI employees and 116k DOJ employees, so this bullshit about not having the resources to devote to this is stupid.
>>We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We know from the bits and pieces of data points that Epstein's schemes involved people from Wall Street, Academia, Politics, Tech, the f**ker was blackmailing everybody.
Again, we need to find out how a math teacher hired by Bill Barr's dad became a wall street big shot, to hob knobbing with the creme de la creme of the elite, all the while running an international underage prostitution and child **** ring that apparently trafficked to nobody.
The whole idea that this is distracting the administration from doing other sh*t is laughable.
There are 38k FBI employees and 116k DOJ employees, so this bullshit about not having the resources to devote to this is stupid.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)
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188 A single 15-year-old, high-end hooker is a tragedy; 1,000 is a statistic.
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (2yoRf)
Where did I leave that Wilt Chamberlain sock....
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (2yoRf)
Where did I leave that Wilt Chamberlain sock....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (VoAdT)
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We were on our way to Eating Ze Bugs!
For real.
They were trying to get rid of all animal meat.
Thank Christ we have Donald Trump.
We were on our way to Eating Ze Bugs!
For real.
They were trying to get rid of all animal meat.
Thank Christ we have Donald Trump.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:48 AM (IS8kY)
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>>> My wife took my son to CostCo and he was able to buy 36 beers for less than a dollar each. Future Leader was shocked and pleased.
this is the kind of good news voters want to hear going into the midterms
this is the kind of good news voters want to hear going into the midterms
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 11:48 AM (jGJov)
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The mort were informers until their usefulness also expired. Period. The active & outright underhanded are government.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:48 AM (NFX2v)
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We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
Assume all of these fuck wads are corrupt as Lucifer. That is the point of limiting governmental power.
Two, I have a real problem giving immunity to child sexual predators.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
Assume all of these fuck wads are corrupt as Lucifer. That is the point of limiting governmental power.
Two, I have a real problem giving immunity to child sexual predators.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:48 AM (bss/y)
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I came to the thought when I wondered what Massie should have done on the Rules Committee.
Be like a reverse Ron Paul. Get specific cuts in and then vote against the whole bill because it's bad while being able to point to the cuts for his base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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But where is the 'principles' in that. Massie is simply Justin Amash part deux. And taking up with Christine Pushaw so soon after his wife died ain't helping him in his district.
Be like a reverse Ron Paul. Get specific cuts in and then vote against the whole bill because it's bad while being able to point to the cuts for his base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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But where is the 'principles' in that. Massie is simply Justin Amash part deux. And taking up with Christine Pushaw so soon after his wife died ain't helping him in his district.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:49 AM (ctrM5)
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[i189 Trump live, talking about the autopen scandal. That's going to end up pushing the Epstein horseshit off the front page. Whether people like it or not.
it fucking well should!!!
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
oh sure and that's not hinky at all, he simply MUST be guilty. and what a coincidence! he died in the state of NYs system!
it fucking well should!!!
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
oh sure and that's not hinky at all, he simply MUST be guilty. and what a coincidence! he died in the state of NYs system!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:49 AM (Pv3Rg)
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a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
*makes Call Me gesture to Dershowitz* I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
Posted by: Robert Kraft
It wasn't a massage. There was no happy ending!
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
*makes Call Me gesture to Dershowitz* I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
Posted by: Robert Kraft
It wasn't a massage. There was no happy ending!
Posted by: Gov. Chuck Robb at July 14, 2025 11:49 AM (Riz8t)
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named names including someone who worked for Biden named “Lisa” if I heard him correctly. Who’s that?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
I think she's one of the three people who were named recently as the top aides who were *really* the defacto President.
named names including someone who worked for Biden named “Lisa” if I heard him correctly. Who’s that?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
I think she's one of the three people who were named recently as the top aides who were *really* the defacto President.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (IS8kY)
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That should have been (1 of several). Anyway:
The scattered testimony we've heard from Epstein's victims shows us a repulsive prostitution ring, but also reveals that it's not the lurid, slaves-chained-in-basement stuff that so much of the rhetoric makes it sound like. Girls who wouldn't service Jeffrey were dismissed from the island, not held there in secret dungeons or fed to alligators. It was essentially the same type of stuff that goes on in Hollywood or in the music industry; tying it to Pizzagate and Qanon is a deliberate or accidental blurring of the lines which helps no one.
The scattered testimony we've heard from Epstein's victims shows us a repulsive prostitution ring, but also reveals that it's not the lurid, slaves-chained-in-basement stuff that so much of the rhetoric makes it sound like. Girls who wouldn't service Jeffrey were dismissed from the island, not held there in secret dungeons or fed to alligators. It was essentially the same type of stuff that goes on in Hollywood or in the music industry; tying it to Pizzagate and Qanon is a deliberate or accidental blurring of the lines which helps no one.
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (1pand)
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189 Trump live, talking about the autopen scandal. That's going to end up pushing the Epstein horseshit off the front page. Whether people like it or not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)
I'm not certain, but i'm thinking that if it would, it would have already.
"Hey maybe we never actually had a real president and it was just a bunch of humps you never heard of wielding supreme executive authority?"
Most people were pretty much just assuming that was the case, whatever color tie they root for. Proving it ain't even going to make the needle wiggle.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)
I'm not certain, but i'm thinking that if it would, it would have already.
"Hey maybe we never actually had a real president and it was just a bunch of humps you never heard of wielding supreme executive authority?"
Most people were pretty much just assuming that was the case, whatever color tie they root for. Proving it ain't even going to make the needle wiggle.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (VoAdT)
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Thanks, Buck. Nice write up.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (2bFN5)
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I suspect the List was what was already released: a list of flight logs and such.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Basically, what anyone who raided anyone's home would get: a bunch of crap that proves nothing. There are probably thousands of people on his contacts, from his driver to his dentist to his drug dealers to his booty calls to his mother to his gym membership relation manager. He was a major player in NY social and political circles. Probably every politician and wall street heavy hitter is in his contacts.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Basically, what anyone who raided anyone's home would get: a bunch of crap that proves nothing. There are probably thousands of people on his contacts, from his driver to his dentist to his drug dealers to his booty calls to his mother to his gym membership relation manager. He was a major player in NY social and political circles. Probably every politician and wall street heavy hitter is in his contacts.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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@121/TheJamesMadison: "*throws in Escape from LA love*"
John Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars" has entered the chat.
John Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars" has entered the chat.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (O7YUW)
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Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
He was never convicted because he died in his jail cell before his trial.
Federal charges for sex trafficking - July 6, 2019.
Died - August 10, 2019.
So he was arrested on federal charges of sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York to NO ONE.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
He was never convicted because he died in his jail cell before his trial.
Federal charges for sex trafficking - July 6, 2019.
Died - August 10, 2019.
So he was arrested on federal charges of sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York to NO ONE.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (+bLMA)
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And I really don't like the, "but why did Trump get mad at those just asking questions?"
Hey, maybe, just maybe, he's a moment of exasperation at knowing the whole story, knowing there will be no real justice, and knowing that this is all a FUD op by the left?
And how about, after the win after win after win after win etc. Trump has delivered--as promised--this, this bullshit* is THE TOPIC of the day?
*the outrage, not the crimes, tbc.
Hey, maybe, just maybe, he's a moment of exasperation at knowing the whole story, knowing there will be no real justice, and knowing that this is all a FUD op by the left?
And how about, after the win after win after win after win etc. Trump has delivered--as promised--this, this bullshit* is THE TOPIC of the day?
*the outrage, not the crimes, tbc.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (JThEY)
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So let's look at the potential answers behind the Epstein stuff, in no particular order
1) There was no big conspiracy it was Epstein, Maxwell, Lexner and maybe a few unimportant "friends" like Prince Andrew
2) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and all the elites, including Trump, were involved
3) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and most of the elites, not including Trump, were involved. But now Trump has cut some kind of deal to get some of his agenda in return for letting it go
4) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and most of the elites, not including Trump, were involved. But Trump doesn't really care because it would be a lot of work to expose and Bondi is following his lead.
Those are your four options. I think #1 is impossible based on what we know. I think #2 is impossible because the Junta would have used it in late '24 to defeat Trump.
And both #3 and #4 are bad.
1) There was no big conspiracy it was Epstein, Maxwell, Lexner and maybe a few unimportant "friends" like Prince Andrew
2) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and all the elites, including Trump, were involved
3) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and most of the elites, not including Trump, were involved. But now Trump has cut some kind of deal to get some of his agenda in return for letting it go
4) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and most of the elites, not including Trump, were involved. But Trump doesn't really care because it would be a lot of work to expose and Bondi is following his lead.
Those are your four options. I think #1 is impossible based on what we know. I think #2 is impossible because the Junta would have used it in late '24 to defeat Trump.
And both #3 and #4 are bad.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (t0Rmr)
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187 Yes, he spoke about it at rallies, and at length on Rogan and Theo Vons podcasts (and I'm sure in other places, that's where I happened to hear him talking about it.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uCjyK)
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Apparently, at least one aspect of this is outright false:
He never mentioned Epstein on Rogan:
https://x.com/NYMag/status/
1850204748969840902
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uCjyK)
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Apparently, at least one aspect of this is outright false:
He never mentioned Epstein on Rogan:
https://x.com/NYMag/status/
1850204748969840902
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
Fuck you too buddy.
I mean, yours is the most fake of all time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
lol
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
Fuck you too buddy.
I mean, yours is the most fake of all time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
lol
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (IS8kY)
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There are 38k FBI employees and 116k DOJ employees, so this bullshit about not having the resources to devote to this is stupid.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)
Agreed. hell, they could have RICO'ed everyone who worked for or spent any time with Epstein if they wanted to. But they did not want to, oddly.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)
Agreed. hell, they could have RICO'ed everyone who worked for or spent any time with Epstein if they wanted to. But they did not want to, oddly.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (uCjyK)
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207 Basically, what anyone who raided anyone's home would get: a bunch of crap that proves nothing. There are probably thousands of people on his contacts, from his driver to his dentist to his drug dealers to his booty calls to his mother to his gym membership relation manager. He was a major player in NY social and political circles. Probably every politician and wall street heavy hitter is in his contacts.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Listen, man, the only way the plumber got into Epstein's place was through kompromat.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Listen, man, the only way the plumber got into Epstein's place was through kompromat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Trump live, talking about the autopen scandal. That's going to end up pushing the Epstein horseshit off the front page. Whether people like it or not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Autopen scandal. Nothing will happen. Business as usual.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Autopen scandal. Nothing will happen. Business as usual.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (+bLMA)
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208 @121/TheJamesMadison: "*throws in Escape from LA love*"
John Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars" has entered the chat.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (O7YUW)
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Nah. Ghosts of Mars is trash.
John Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars" has entered the chat.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (O7YUW)
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Nah. Ghosts of Mars is trash.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
This will never be done, ever. And it doesn't matter who the president is. There are some things that will never be truly revealed. Get used to it.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
This will never be done, ever. And it doesn't matter who the president is. There are some things that will never be truly revealed. Get used to it.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (g8Ew8)
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Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (t0Rmr)
Britan was conquered by islam and is wearing it's meat suit.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (t0Rmr)
Britan was conquered by islam and is wearing it's meat suit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (snZF9)
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Wolfus is home and resting comfortably. He appreciates all the prayers and well wishes from earlier. Stirling and Dagny are happy to have back.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (omVj0)
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Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (1pand)
Barney Frank actually had a homo escort service run out of his home where certainly there were underage boys for their chicken hawk clients.
He continued to be a powerful Congressman.
Barney Frank actually had a homo escort service run out of his home where certainly there were underage boys for their chicken hawk clients.
He continued to be a powerful Congressman.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG)
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Ghost of Mars is a good movie.
Ghost of Mars is a good movie.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (IS8kY)
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When there's a video, there's a problem. When there's no video, there's no problem.
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (2yoRf)
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199 We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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More than we need one for NSA and CIA effectively spying on all our private communications? Violating the 4th Amendment? Targeting political opponents via FISA and foreign 5 eyes?
Basically, the US since WWII and the Cold War, has institutionalized a shadow state where the ordinary rules of "Gentlemen Do Not Read Other's People's Mail (future and past Sec. of War Stinson when defunding signal intercepts)"
So where do we pick our battles?
What about Chicoms penetrating our infrastructure and computers, what about existing victims of human trafficking by the cartels in every damn city of the US, what about states and communities actively resisting federal immigration laws, and so on.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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More than we need one for NSA and CIA effectively spying on all our private communications? Violating the 4th Amendment? Targeting political opponents via FISA and foreign 5 eyes?
Basically, the US since WWII and the Cold War, has institutionalized a shadow state where the ordinary rules of "Gentlemen Do Not Read Other's People's Mail (future and past Sec. of War Stinson when defunding signal intercepts)"
So where do we pick our battles?
What about Chicoms penetrating our infrastructure and computers, what about existing victims of human trafficking by the cartels in every damn city of the US, what about states and communities actively resisting federal immigration laws, and so on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (IS8kY)
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Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in New York because he was indicted on federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
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Yes, he was indicted in NYC, for alleged crimes from the 2000s era. He died before the trial. Maxwell was later convicted of sex trafficking after he was dead. She's appealing that, and could win.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in New York because he was indicted on federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
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Yes, he was indicted in NYC, for alleged crimes from the 2000s era. He died before the trial. Maxwell was later convicted of sex trafficking after he was dead. She's appealing that, and could win.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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Apparently, at least one aspect of this is outright false:
He never mentioned Epstein on Rogan:
https://x.com/NYMag/status/
1850204748969840902
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
He never mentioned Epstein on Rogan:
https://x.com/NYMag/status/
1850204748969840902
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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I see the Epstein files as more of a "want" than anything.
If I had to choose where to put resources, I'd choose the DOJ go hard after current child trafficking which took place under Biden. Epstein Island is no longer in operation. Anything which comes out now may not be usable in a court of law.
However, child sex and work slavery? Let's go hard after that and see who we catch. There may very well be some crossover between Epstein and children being trafficked during the Biden administration.
If I had to choose where to put resources, I'd choose the DOJ go hard after current child trafficking which took place under Biden. Epstein Island is no longer in operation. Anything which comes out now may not be usable in a court of law.
However, child sex and work slavery? Let's go hard after that and see who we catch. There may very well be some crossover between Epstein and children being trafficked during the Biden administration.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (tT6L1)
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I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
Posted by: Robert Kraft
Best place is Strokie Dokie in the Three Palms Strip Center near the I-95 off ramp. 10% off if you use cash.
Posted by: Robert Kraft
Best place is Strokie Dokie in the Three Palms Strip Center near the I-95 off ramp. 10% off if you use cash.
Posted by: Al Gore, Getting One Rubbed Out Now at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (rfMRc)
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227 I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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He talked a lot about immigration, about Sleepy Joe, about how dumb Kamala is.
I really don't think he talked about Epstein much, and if he mentioned it a few times, it was obviously not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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He talked a lot about immigration, about Sleepy Joe, about how dumb Kamala is.
I really don't think he talked about Epstein much, and if he mentioned it a few times, it was obviously not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
Maybe I was thinking of the Lex Friedman interview. Here's a short clip:
https://tinyurl.com/2xxavwmt
Maybe I was thinking of the Lex Friedman interview. Here's a short clip:
https://tinyurl.com/2xxavwmt
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (uCjyK)
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what happened to Wolfus?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (Pv3Rg)
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btw, re: Bongino
Is he a fucking imbecile? Why on earth would he be upset over this?
I don't believe it, btw. I don't believe the rumor about him wanting to quit over Bondi. Because it's so incredibly stupid, and I don't think he's stupid.
btw, re: Bongino
Is he a fucking imbecile? Why on earth would he be upset over this?
I don't believe it, btw. I don't believe the rumor about him wanting to quit over Bondi. Because it's so incredibly stupid, and I don't think he's stupid.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:58 AM (IS8kY)
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Continued again (3). Epstein gives rise to myths because there is something for everyone in his story. To normie conservatives, it's proof that creeps like the Clintons and Bill Gates are not just bad people, but Satanic cultists. To leftists, it's proof that rich people are evil, most specifically Drumpf! To the antisemites, it's proof that Israel controls all Western politicians through sexual blackmail. The connecting thread is that all these people seem Epstein as a magic bullet who exposure can be used to take down The Real Villains once and for all; the people who think this way have seen way too many movies. The truth, I think, is more mundane; he was a high-rolling pimp, nothing more--not a pedophile supplier, Satanist, Mossad agent, or whatever other image people projected on to him. It's disturbing that so many people refuse to let go of this mythos and pay attention to reality, whether it's Vox Day insisting that Trump has been replaced by a double, Musk denouncing Trump as a pedophile, or the commenters here complaining loudly about some imagined betrayal.
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:58 AM (1pand)
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231 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
Maybe I was thinking of the Lex Friedman interview. Here's a short clip:
https://tinyurl.com/2xxavwmt
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (uCjyK)
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In a September interview with podcaster Lex Fridman, Trump reiterated his openness to releasing these documents if he returned to the White House, saying, "I'd have no problem with it," and adding that he would "certainly take a look at it" if given the opportunity.
This is not a major theme of his campaign.
Maybe I was thinking of the Lex Friedman interview. Here's a short clip:
https://tinyurl.com/2xxavwmt
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (uCjyK)
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In a September interview with podcaster Lex Fridman, Trump reiterated his openness to releasing these documents if he returned to the White House, saying, "I'd have no problem with it," and adding that he would "certainly take a look at it" if given the opportunity.
This is not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
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Best place is Strokie Dokie in the Three Palms Strip Center near the I-95 off ramp. 10% off if you use cash.
At one company I worked at I started going out to lunch with my leftist cow-workers.
One time on the way home they started talking about the best Asian rub and tugs in the area. Note I was the only single guy in the group.
But...they'd also tell you how they were feminists and all that rah-rah corporate crap...
At one company I worked at I started going out to lunch with my leftist cow-workers.
One time on the way home they started talking about the best Asian rub and tugs in the area. Note I was the only single guy in the group.
But...they'd also tell you how they were feminists and all that rah-rah corporate crap...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:58 AM (t0Rmr)
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How come no one is mad that nothing came out of the promises to release the JFK info and the UFO info?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
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Epstein died in August 2019. Trump was President.
Investigation and Review of the Federal Bureau of Prisons' Custody, Care, and Supervision of Jeffrey Epstein at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, New York
Investigation Division 23-085
June 2023
I wanna know more about the deaths of several J named individuals: Jimmy Hoffa, James "Whitey" Bulger, President John F. Kennedy, and more. From my experience, that's not happening.
Investigation and Review of the Federal Bureau of Prisons' Custody, Care, and Supervision of Jeffrey Epstein at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, New York
Investigation Division 23-085
June 2023
I wanna know more about the deaths of several J named individuals: Jimmy Hoffa, James "Whitey" Bulger, President John F. Kennedy, and more. From my experience, that's not happening.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (NFX2v)
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If there's never was any evidence of criminal behavior beyond what's already public, then it makes no sense for Epstein to either kill himself or be killed.
If there is more evidence than what's already public, then *that evidence is what people who care about the "list" care about.*
If you don't think there's any evidence beyond what is already public, provide an explanation for the course of events that makes sense of things that we know happened, like Epstein's death.
If there is more evidence than what's already public, then *that evidence is what people who care about the "list" care about.*
If you don't think there's any evidence beyond what is already public, provide an explanation for the course of events that makes sense of things that we know happened, like Epstein's death.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (B9Prs)
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More than we need one for NSA and CIA effectively spying on all our private communications? Violating the 4th Amendment? Targeting political opponents via FISA and foreign 5 eyes?
Basically, the US since WWII and the Cold War, has institutionalized a shadow state where the ordinary rules of "Gentlemen Do Not Read Other's People's Mail (future and past Sec. of War Stinson when defunding signal intercepts)"
So where do we pick our battles?
What about Chicoms penetrating our infrastructure and computers, what about existing victims of human trafficking by the cartels in every damn city of the US, what about states and communities actively resisting federal immigration laws, and so on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (ctrM5)
I think it's all fair game.
I also think it's all multiple sides of the same coin. I think people seamlessly move from academia to government to the intel agencies to biglaw firms to seats on boards of directors.
Is there nothing to be done about that? We just accept that this is the way of the world? And if so, why even pretend to vote? Let the "experts" run the country and the "elites" do their corruption, graft and whatever it is they do...
Basically, the US since WWII and the Cold War, has institutionalized a shadow state where the ordinary rules of "Gentlemen Do Not Read Other's People's Mail (future and past Sec. of War Stinson when defunding signal intercepts)"
So where do we pick our battles?
What about Chicoms penetrating our infrastructure and computers, what about existing victims of human trafficking by the cartels in every damn city of the US, what about states and communities actively resisting federal immigration laws, and so on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (ctrM5)
I think it's all fair game.
I also think it's all multiple sides of the same coin. I think people seamlessly move from academia to government to the intel agencies to biglaw firms to seats on boards of directors.
Is there nothing to be done about that? We just accept that this is the way of the world? And if so, why even pretend to vote? Let the "experts" run the country and the "elites" do their corruption, graft and whatever it is they do...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (uCjyK)
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I sort of like Escape from LA. Especially the ending. The two scenes I hate worst are the basketball thing and the surfing Snake scene.
Beyond that, I like it.
Never saw Ghosts of Mars.
Beyond that, I like it.
Never saw Ghosts of Mars.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (bss/y)
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good comments, Wiese
the lie that tells the truth ... that's the narrative
to the Left it's far more important and even more true than reality
so they wield it constantly, like they breathe. it's not even conscious lying. just endless manipulation to their benefit, because why not.
the lie that tells the truth ... that's the narrative
to the Left it's far more important and even more true than reality
so they wield it constantly, like they breathe. it's not even conscious lying. just endless manipulation to their benefit, because why not.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (Pv3Rg)
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It’s not either or
I want Trump to do his thing AND I want the Epstein files to be released and all the people prosecuted.
Why is this so hard?
I want Trump to do his thing AND I want the Epstein files to be released and all the people prosecuted.
Why is this so hard?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (ImXfC)
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Wolfus had his surgery this morning. It was routine and uncomplicated. He should be moving around in a couple of days.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (omVj0)
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>>I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
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Bear in mind that these podcasters themselves are notorious lovers of conspiracy theories. Their audiences thrive on them. Fielding questions from podcasters is a far cry from implying that Trump made the Epstein issue a prominent campaign plank.
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Bear in mind that these podcasters themselves are notorious lovers of conspiracy theories. Their audiences thrive on them. Fielding questions from podcasters is a far cry from implying that Trump made the Epstein issue a prominent campaign plank.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (bNf8H)
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For every criminal there is at least 1 victim. In the case of Epstein a lot if not most of his victims were children when the abuse happened. They are now adults, some with probably familes of their own.
After years of dealing with this stuff some of them might now want the past dragged up, not want their families to hear about this stuff. It could be as simple as that.
There are any number of reasons that Trump wants to put this issue to be right now. Trump has earned my trust to make decisions he thinks are in the best interest of the country and the people involved. As much as we think we've been through none of us has remotely gone through what Trump and his family have gone through at the hands of deep state criminals. He's not afraid of them, he's proven that.
I'd like to know what if any other connections Epstein had other than what I know already but I'm not going to trash Trump over this. He's delivered and continues to deliver things that are going to make my and my family's lives better for years to come. I'll give him the benefit on the doubt on this.
After years of dealing with this stuff some of them might now want the past dragged up, not want their families to hear about this stuff. It could be as simple as that.
There are any number of reasons that Trump wants to put this issue to be right now. Trump has earned my trust to make decisions he thinks are in the best interest of the country and the people involved. As much as we think we've been through none of us has remotely gone through what Trump and his family have gone through at the hands of deep state criminals. He's not afraid of them, he's proven that.
I'd like to know what if any other connections Epstein had other than what I know already but I'm not going to trash Trump over this. He's delivered and continues to deliver things that are going to make my and my family's lives better for years to come. I'll give him the benefit on the doubt on this.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
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How come no one is mad that nothing came out of the promises to release the JFK info and the UFO info?
Well the UFO stuff has always, always been something the US government uses to distract people and cover up its new high tech weapons.
Remember in the 80s when people in the midwest reported flying wing craft that were silent and didn't show up on radar? The FNM response to that was...ALIENS ARE REAL!!! Because their government sources told them so. And it worked great to hide information on stealth tech didn't it?
I expect it is in overdrive now with drone tech experiments as well
Well the UFO stuff has always, always been something the US government uses to distract people and cover up its new high tech weapons.
Remember in the 80s when people in the midwest reported flying wing craft that were silent and didn't show up on radar? The FNM response to that was...ALIENS ARE REAL!!! Because their government sources told them so. And it worked great to hide information on stealth tech didn't it?
I expect it is in overdrive now with drone tech experiments as well
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (t0Rmr)
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227 I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
could be a cheapfake. or the mandala effect. or n-dimensional chess.
could be a cheapfake. or the mandala effect. or n-dimensional chess.
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (v3pYe)
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I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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He talked a lot about immigration, about Sleepy Joe, about how dumb Kamala is.
I really don't think he talked about Epstein much, and if he mentioned it a few times, it was obviously not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
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I think people are confusing what Trump said pre-election about Epstein with what people like Bongi were saying. I don't remember Trump saying much about Epstein at all. I could be wrong.
But I do remember people like Bongi -- who were private citizens looking for likes and hits and attention -- making a big deal about it.
So I do understand people's frustrations when the same people screeching about Epstein then are now poo-pooing it. But I don't think Trump is one of them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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He talked a lot about immigration, about Sleepy Joe, about how dumb Kamala is.
I really don't think he talked about Epstein much, and if he mentioned it a few times, it was obviously not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
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I think people are confusing what Trump said pre-election about Epstein with what people like Bongi were saying. I don't remember Trump saying much about Epstein at all. I could be wrong.
But I do remember people like Bongi -- who were private citizens looking for likes and hits and attention -- making a big deal about it.
So I do understand people's frustrations when the same people screeching about Epstein then are now poo-pooing it. But I don't think Trump is one of them.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (IS8kY)
Posted by: Elderly Git at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (1yfci)
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It's not the people who bang teen hookers that count. It's the people who count the teen-hookers.
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (2yoRf)
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249 I think people are confusing what Trump said pre-election about Epstein with what people like Bongi were saying. I don't remember Trump saying much about Epstein at all. I could be wrong.
But I do remember people like Bongi -- who were private citizens looking for likes and hits and attention -- making a big deal about it.
So I do understand people's frustrations when the same people screeching about Epstein then are now poo-pooing it. But I don't think Trump is one of them.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
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People chasing clicks on social media were harping on something? And Trump won the election?
Must mean that these social media influencers have such influence over the populace, I guess.
But I do remember people like Bongi -- who were private citizens looking for likes and hits and attention -- making a big deal about it.
So I do understand people's frustrations when the same people screeching about Epstein then are now poo-pooing it. But I don't think Trump is one of them.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
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People chasing clicks on social media were harping on something? And Trump won the election?
Must mean that these social media influencers have such influence over the populace, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:02 PM (GBKbO)
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221 Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (1pand)
Barney Frank actually had a homo escort service run out of his home where certainly there were underage boys for their chicken hawk clients.
He continued to be a powerful Congressman.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG)
And your point? This is another example of the conflation that goes on with regard to Epstein--the fact that Frank was preying on teenage boys has nothing to do with the Epstein business, unless you're suggesting Epstein was somehow back of that too. The existence of government officials preying on teenagers does not prove that Epstein was procuring prepubescent children for nearly everyone in government, finance, and media, which is the mythic version we keep hearing about.
Barney Frank actually had a homo escort service run out of his home where certainly there were underage boys for their chicken hawk clients.
He continued to be a powerful Congressman.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG)
And your point? This is another example of the conflation that goes on with regard to Epstein--the fact that Frank was preying on teenage boys has nothing to do with the Epstein business, unless you're suggesting Epstein was somehow back of that too. The existence of government officials preying on teenagers does not prove that Epstein was procuring prepubescent children for nearly everyone in government, finance, and media, which is the mythic version we keep hearing about.
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 12:02 PM (1pand)
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241 I sort of like Escape from LA. Especially the ending. The two scenes I hate worst are the basketball thing and the surfing Snake scene.
basketball jones > basketball thing
basketball jones > basketball thing
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:02 PM (v3pYe)
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237 How come no one is mad that nothing came out of the promises to release the JFK info and the UFO info?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
People are also mad about that. Some of the JFK files have been released, and it's long been speculated / known that Dulles, Helms, and Angleton destroyed a lot of files on their ways out. So it's possible there really is nothing else to release. I don't think anyone thought there would be a "here's how the CIA killed JFK" file.
With UFO's -- it's very possible there truly is nothing there. Some might even say likely.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
People are also mad about that. Some of the JFK files have been released, and it's long been speculated / known that Dulles, Helms, and Angleton destroyed a lot of files on their ways out. So it's possible there really is nothing else to release. I don't think anyone thought there would be a "here's how the CIA killed JFK" file.
With UFO's -- it's very possible there truly is nothing there. Some might even say likely.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (uCjyK)
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I have no idea whether or not Epstein ran child pedo rings to blackmail prominent people…
I will say I don’t think he killed himself and there’s probably more we’ll never hear about.
However I’m adamant I don’t want the whole furor to derail Trump’s second term. Whatever was (or wasn’t) happening is no longer going on so that’s good enough for me
I will say I don’t think he killed himself and there’s probably more we’ll never hear about.
However I’m adamant I don’t want the whole furor to derail Trump’s second term. Whatever was (or wasn’t) happening is no longer going on so that’s good enough for me
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (P/Wjn)
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HERE:
KFOX-14, Maxwell offers to testify before Congress on Epstein's sex trafficking scheme
by ELAINE MALLON | The National News Desk Mon, July 14th 2025
Newsweek: Donald Trump Ally Reacts to Ghislaine Maxwell Testifying About Epstein, Published Jul 14, 2025
KFOX-14, Maxwell offers to testify before Congress on Epstein's sex trafficking scheme
by ELAINE MALLON | The National News Desk Mon, July 14th 2025
Newsweek: Donald Trump Ally Reacts to Ghislaine Maxwell Testifying About Epstein, Published Jul 14, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (NFX2v)
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Welcome to the clown world: justice is dead.
Posted by: kilroy at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (QMNUD)
Oh for fucks sake... Grow the fuck up. We are SIX FUCKING MONTHS into Trump term. He is working his ass off to make life better for ALL Americans.
But whoa! he isn't laser focused on your specific priorities and suddenly "justice is dead"? Shut the fuck up with that shit.
Grow. The Fuck. Up.
Posted by: kilroy at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (QMNUD)
Oh for fucks sake... Grow the fuck up. We are SIX FUCKING MONTHS into Trump term. He is working his ass off to make life better for ALL Americans.
But whoa! he isn't laser focused on your specific priorities and suddenly "justice is dead"? Shut the fuck up with that shit.
Grow. The Fuck. Up.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (2J/Lj)
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The pedos that Epstein catered to have not given up their predilection. PDT has / is doing more than anyone ever has to find and convict these people. The fuckers may just get caught in another net.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (HFcKg)
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Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (t0Rm
dopnt disagree. Just pointing out that Trump didn't confirm a list and then back out.
He just promised to have info released just like he did with JFK and UFOs. Like I said he's a fan of government conspiracies and exposing them. He was all over Obama's birth certificate too.
dopnt disagree. Just pointing out that Trump didn't confirm a list and then back out.
He just promised to have info released just like he did with JFK and UFOs. Like I said he's a fan of government conspiracies and exposing them. He was all over Obama's birth certificate too.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:04 PM (VofaG)
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Basically, what anyone who raided anyone's home would get: a bunch of crap that proves nothing. There are probably thousands of people on his contacts, from his driver to his dentist to his drug dealers to his booty calls to his mother to his gym membership relation manager. He was a major player in NY social and political circles. Probably every politician and wall street heavy hitter is in his contacts.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Listen, man, the only way the plumber got into Epstein's place was through kompromat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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I just checked my own contacts on my phone. 1500 contacts. And I'm a nobody compared to Epstein. And yes, my contacts include my drivers to my dentist to my drug dealer to my booty calls to my mom, to a whole bunch of contacts who I don't even remember who they are.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Listen, man, the only way the plumber got into Epstein's place was through kompromat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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I just checked my own contacts on my phone. 1500 contacts. And I'm a nobody compared to Epstein. And yes, my contacts include my drivers to my dentist to my drug dealer to my booty calls to my mom, to a whole bunch of contacts who I don't even remember who they are.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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People like Bongino (before joining the FBI), or Steve Bannon, or Vox Day, or 90% of Breitbart and Town Hall's columnists, are engagement farmers and clickbait artists who say what they think their audiences want to hear, and who don't expect to be held responsible for their rhetoric; Bongino made the mistake of jumping from podcasting into government, where you might actually get raked over the coals for spouting nonsense.
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 12:04 PM (1pand)
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:04 PM (AOsQT)
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also my nic is real and spectacular
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:05 PM (AOsQT)
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The connecting thread is that all these people seem Epstein as a magic bullet who exposure can be used to take down The Real Villains once and for all; the people who think this way have seen way too many movies. The truth, I think, is more mundane; he was a high-rolling pimp, nothing more--not a pedophile supplier, Satanist, Mossad agent, or whatever other image people projected on to him.
So he committed suicide because he was a run of the mill adult Huggy Bear pimp.
😂😂😂😂
*Heide Fleiss has entered the chat.
So he committed suicide because he was a run of the mill adult Huggy Bear pimp.
😂😂😂😂
*Heide Fleiss has entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:05 PM (+bLMA)
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Trump ran on many issues. Dismissing the Epstein lists and videos as unimportant is telling people whose main issue was transparency to pound sand. I'm old enough to not give a shit if it all goes down the toilet over this issue. Releasing the Epstein material is the political equivalent of wiping ones ass after shitting.
Trump does wipe his ass after shitting?
Trump does wipe his ass after shitting?
Posted by: Marooned at July 14, 2025 12:05 PM (kt8QE)
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257 I have no idea whether or not Epstein ran child pedo rings to blackmail prominent people…
I will say I don’t think he killed himself and there’s probably more we’ll never hear about.
However I’m adamant I don’t want the whole furor to derail Trump’s second term. Whatever was (or wasn’t) happening is no longer going on so that’s good enough for me
I think it's an almost universally held opinion that he was guilty, and that he didn't kill himself. Regardless, we should be able to do both things at once. This isn't a matter of DOJ being overloaded; they have plenty of resources. That's why people look so askance at the whole thing.
I will say I don’t think he killed himself and there’s probably more we’ll never hear about.
However I’m adamant I don’t want the whole furor to derail Trump’s second term. Whatever was (or wasn’t) happening is no longer going on so that’s good enough for me
I think it's an almost universally held opinion that he was guilty, and that he didn't kill himself. Regardless, we should be able to do both things at once. This isn't a matter of DOJ being overloaded; they have plenty of resources. That's why people look so askance at the whole thing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:05 PM (Riz8t)
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263. "...engagement farmers and clickbait artists who say what they think their audiences want to hear, and who don't expect to be held responsible for their rhetoric;..."
And Congress.
And Congress.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (NFX2v)
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The two aren't mutually exclusive.
America First advocates can both be vociferously outraged and demand action in regards to the Epstein matter and still be in support of the rest of Trump's other agendas.
This "we can't risk it by being divided" is a weak sauce attempt at guilting people to suck it up and forget about it, or else you'll lose your deportations and tax cuts if we all one big kumbaya drum circle.
America First advocates can both be vociferously outraged and demand action in regards to the Epstein matter and still be in support of the rest of Trump's other agendas.
This "we can't risk it by being divided" is a weak sauce attempt at guilting people to suck it up and forget about it, or else you'll lose your deportations and tax cuts if we all one big kumbaya drum circle.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (6BNWj)
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With UFO's -- it's very possible there truly is nothing there. Some might even say likely.
I watched a guy make a compelling case that even the first big "aliens are here" moment, Roswell, was the government trying to hide stuff - namely that they had former Axis scientists building radiation detection balloons and doing radiation experiments on corpses - all things the US government did in fact do.
I watched a guy make a compelling case that even the first big "aliens are here" moment, Roswell, was the government trying to hide stuff - namely that they had former Axis scientists building radiation detection balloons and doing radiation experiments on corpses - all things the US government did in fact do.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (t0Rmr)
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osted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 12:02 P
Everyone is so defensive here. My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Everyone is so defensive here. My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG)
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I just checked my own contacts on my phone. 1500 contacts. And I'm a nobody compared to Epstein. And yes, my contacts include my drivers to my dentist to my drug dealer to my booty calls to my mom, to a whole bunch of contacts who I don't even remember who they are.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Ooooh, look who has drivers. Pardon moi, your majesty.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Ooooh, look who has drivers. Pardon moi, your majesty.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (Riz8t)
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HERE:
KFOX-14, Maxwell offers to testify before Congress on Epstein's sex trafficking scheme
by ELAINE MALLON
THERE WAS NO SCHEME! She pimped underaged girls to Epstein ONLY.
At least, that's what people keep telling me.
KFOX-14, Maxwell offers to testify before Congress on Epstein's sex trafficking scheme
by ELAINE MALLON
THERE WAS NO SCHEME! She pimped underaged girls to Epstein ONLY.
At least, that's what people keep telling me.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (+bLMA)
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I watched a guy make a compelling case that even the first big "aliens are here" moment, Roswell, was the government trying to hide stuff - namely that they had former Axis scientists building radiation detection balloons and doing radiation experiments on corpses - all things the US government did in fact do.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (t0Rmr)
Yes, I think it's highly likely the whole UFO thing was / is a distraction / cover story for experimental government technology.
I'd imagine there was also a pys op part of it -- get the USSR to think the US is working with aliens to create crazy weapons.
But I could be wrong on that, I don't know.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (t0Rmr)
Yes, I think it's highly likely the whole UFO thing was / is a distraction / cover story for experimental government technology.
I'd imagine there was also a pys op part of it -- get the USSR to think the US is working with aliens to create crazy weapons.
But I could be wrong on that, I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Nathan Thurm at July 14, 2025 12:09 PM (Riz8t)
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If Congress take Maxwell up on her offer, it says a lot. If Congress passes, well, let's just say it's not a good look.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:09 PM (tT6L1)
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I just checked my own contacts on my phone. 1500 contacts. And I'm a nobody compared to Epstein. And yes, my contacts include my drivers to my dentist to my drug dealer to my booty calls to my mom, to a whole bunch of contacts who I don't even remember who they are.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Ooooh, look who has drivers. Pardon moi, your majesty.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (Riz8t)
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Everyone in NYC has (or had) contacts for drivers. This was from before the Uber era. Now people just use Uber.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Ooooh, look who has drivers. Pardon moi, your majesty.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (Riz8t)
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Everyone in NYC has (or had) contacts for drivers. This was from before the Uber era. Now people just use Uber.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (iFTx/)
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If Congress take Maxwell up on her offer, it says a lot. If Congress passes, well, let's just say it's not a good look.
Agree.
Agree.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (Riz8t)
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Yes, I think it's highly likely the whole UFO thing was / is a distraction / cover story for experimental government technology.
I'd imagine there was also a pys op part of it -- get the USSR to think the US is working with aliens to create crazy weapons.
But I could be wrong on that, I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (uCjyK)
You just made me think of Gillian Anderson. Thank you
I'd imagine there was also a pys op part of it -- get the USSR to think the US is working with aliens to create crazy weapons.
But I could be wrong on that, I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (uCjyK)
You just made me think of Gillian Anderson. Thank you
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (P/Wjn)
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@277
>>If Congress take Maxwell up on her offer, it says a lot. If Congress passes, well, let's just say it's not a good look.
She'll be dead within a week of any scheduled testimony.
>>If Congress take Maxwell up on her offer, it says a lot. If Congress passes, well, let's just say it's not a good look.
She'll be dead within a week of any scheduled testimony.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (XV/Pl)
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Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (2GCMq)
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272.
My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes
Frustration over 'nicely' demanding but not being heard.
My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes
Frustration over 'nicely' demanding but not being heard.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (NFX2v)
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Decades of GOP fecklessness have poisoned the well so that when someone actually does run up against something they can't do anything about right now, it looks suspiciously exactly like fecklessness, whether it is or isn't.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (VoAdT)
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204 The scattered testimony we've heard from Epstein's victims shows us a repulsive prostitution ring, but also reveals that it's not the lurid, slaves-chained-in-basement stuff that so much of the rhetoric makes it sound like. Girls who wouldn't service Jeffrey were dismissed from the island, not held there in secret dungeons or fed to alligators. It was essentially the same type of stuff that goes on in Hollywood or in the music industry; tying it to Pizzagate and Qanon is a deliberate or accidental blurring of the lines which helps no one.
...except those on the list. nudge, nudge, say no more!
...except those on the list. nudge, nudge, say no more!
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (v3pYe)
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>>THERE WAS NO SCHEME! She pimped underaged girls to Epstein ONLY.
>>At least, that's what people keep telling me.
No, what people keep saying in response to the question "Why is Maxwell in prison?" is simply that the only person Maxwell is convicted of trafficking kids to is Epstein. Nobody else.
That doesn't mean there weren't others. It simply means her conviction only involved Epstein.
>>At least, that's what people keep telling me.
No, what people keep saying in response to the question "Why is Maxwell in prison?" is simply that the only person Maxwell is convicted of trafficking kids to is Epstein. Nobody else.
That doesn't mean there weren't others. It simply means her conviction only involved Epstein.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (viF8m)
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One thing is for sure, if aliens are real, want them deported back to whatever planet they came here from.
I don't give a shit if Elon wants to give the H1B visas.
I don't give a shit if Elon wants to give the H1B visas.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (6BNWj)
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yeah, you got any Grey Poopon or what
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (AOsQT)
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‘Bigoted White Boys’: Newly-appointed California Assistant City Manager Faces Backlash Over Alleged Social Media Posts Targeting White People
Media commentator and Mother Jones co-founder Adam Hochschild also weighed in, urging readers to consider how the same words would be received if aimed at a different group. “If I do that with this quote, it would read, ‘Black women marry bigoted black men and birth and raise bigoted black boys.’ I would feel it was racist,” he said. “And I think the same thing applies if it’s White instead of Black. Or if one substitutes anything else — Asian, Mexican — anything else.”
Media commentator and Mother Jones co-founder Adam Hochschild also weighed in, urging readers to consider how the same words would be received if aimed at a different group. “If I do that with this quote, it would read, ‘Black women marry bigoted black men and birth and raise bigoted black boys.’ I would feel it was racist,” he said. “And I think the same thing applies if it’s White instead of Black. Or if one substitutes anything else — Asian, Mexican — anything else.”
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (RHGPo)
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69 out of the 110 attorneys that specialize in defending the government have left or announced they are leaving.
In the midst of the Trump administration facing more lawsuits than probably the last 10 Presidents combined.
And they are still firing attorneys at the DOJ.
Whatever level of rot you assigned to the DOJ, you need to up it by a factor of 10.
But sure, keep demanding he divert resources to a case against the most powerful and rich, with allies embedded for decades at all levels of government, where all the evidence is spoiled, tainted or lost, ensuring there'll be no convictions.
Because if we don't, "we're supporting letting child predators go free!!!"
In the midst of the Trump administration facing more lawsuits than probably the last 10 Presidents combined.
And they are still firing attorneys at the DOJ.
Whatever level of rot you assigned to the DOJ, you need to up it by a factor of 10.
But sure, keep demanding he divert resources to a case against the most powerful and rich, with allies embedded for decades at all levels of government, where all the evidence is spoiled, tainted or lost, ensuring there'll be no convictions.
Because if we don't, "we're supporting letting child predators go free!!!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (JThEY)
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Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (2GCMq)
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[Golf clap]
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (2GCMq)
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[Golf clap]
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (iFTx/)
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283 272.
My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes
Frustration over 'nicely' demanding but not being heard.
asking is just polite demanding.
My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes
Frustration over 'nicely' demanding but not being heard.
asking is just polite demanding.
Posted by: the wisdom of max headroom at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (v3pYe)
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Everyone is so defensive here. My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG)
We demand things from the right that we cannot get from the left.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG)
We demand things from the right that we cannot get from the left.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
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Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Dang, Fen made a risque, grammar Nazi joke. What is happening?
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Dang, Fen made a risque, grammar Nazi joke. What is happening?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (Riz8t)
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So I'm supposed to just go along with wealthy and powerful people doing bad things to kids because Republicans might lose some seats if I don't?
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
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288 yeah, you got any Grey Poopon or what
ah. i see i'm not the only one who missed the art thread.
someone needs to tell cbd about the cha-cha method of taking 3d pictures.
ah. i see i'm not the only one who missed the art thread.
someone needs to tell cbd about the cha-cha method of taking 3d pictures.
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:13 PM (v3pYe)
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also, if you put a slice of French bread in the toaster, and you toast it, did you just make French toast?
disclaimer: I like toast.
disclaimer: I like toast.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:13 PM (AOsQT)
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295 So I'm supposed to just go along with wealthy and powerful people doing bad things to kids because Republicans might lose some seats if I don't?
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
The blackmailed pedophile with an R behind his name might accidentally align with something you want done more than the blackmailed pedophile with a D behind his name would, so send $5 to the RNC today!
That's politics, baby.
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
The blackmailed pedophile with an R behind his name might accidentally align with something you want done more than the blackmailed pedophile with a D behind his name would, so send $5 to the RNC today!
That's politics, baby.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:14 PM (uCjyK)
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Fun Fact: The President and First Lady will travel to the UK in September for an official state visit.
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Funner fact:
They just gave Macron the full royalty treatment, with all the regal pomp and circumstance.
While Trump's is set to be a mere business formality, with emphasis on their instructions he is not permitted to speak to Parliament.
Fuck the UK, let them stew in the muzzie death pot they built.
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Funner fact:
They just gave Macron the full royalty treatment, with all the regal pomp and circumstance.
While Trump's is set to be a mere business formality, with emphasis on their instructions he is not permitted to speak to Parliament.
Fuck the UK, let them stew in the muzzie death pot they built.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:15 PM (JThEY)
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So I'm supposed to just go along with wealthy and powerful people doing bad things to kids because Republicans might lose some seats if I don't?
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
You seem to have a supremely overinflated view of the importance of your single vote. Or you’re engaging in hyperbole for effect….
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
You seem to have a supremely overinflated view of the importance of your single vote. Or you’re engaging in hyperbole for effect….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:15 PM (5MZNC)
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We demand things from the right that we cannot get from the left.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Why did we ignore the Frank scandal except maybe a few Hurumphs. Now all the sudden some on the right want to go scorch earth about a 20 year old scandal that will do nothing but damage Trump and its not even a Trump scandal.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Why did we ignore the Frank scandal except maybe a few Hurumphs. Now all the sudden some on the right want to go scorch earth about a 20 year old scandal that will do nothing but damage Trump and its not even a Trump scandal.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:16 PM (VofaG)
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@nicksortor
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🚨 BREAKING: Dr. Fauci’s “pardon” CONFIRMED to have be done by autopen and received late-night approval from a White House aide, per NYT
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🚨 BREAKING: Dr. Fauci’s “pardon” CONFIRMED to have be done by autopen and received late-night approval from a White House aide, per NYT
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:16 PM (AOsQT)
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Hmm, go after the auto pen pardons or Epstein?
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:17 PM (tT6L1)
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Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
you vote Dem anyway troll so good for Trump.
you vote Dem anyway troll so good for Trump.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (VofaG)
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I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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Hmm, go after the auto pen pardons or Epstein?
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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"Sorry, Vlads, I can't pick up the phone this week, i'm too busy deciding on if I care more about fake pardons or a dead pimp right now."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (VoAdT)
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Trump will make Charlie look small in more ways than one.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (AOsQT)
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I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
They are creatively bankrupt.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
They are creatively bankrupt.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (Riz8t)
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Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
If they're not going after the Epstein situation, they're not going to go after any of the other Deep State shenanigans.
Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
If they're not going after the Epstein situation, they're not going to go after any of the other Deep State shenanigans.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (uCjyK)
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301 We demand things from the right that we cannot get from the left.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Why did we ignore the Frank scandal except maybe a few Hurumphs. Now all the sudden some on the right want to go scorch earth about a 20 year old scandal that will do nothing but damage Trump and its not even a Trump scandal.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:16 PM (VofaG)
It's the overall point. Where's the transparency and accountability?
Ya know what, I'd be just as happy to see Fauci get it. Or some opening on Seth Rich.
Let the damn chips fall, already.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Why did we ignore the Frank scandal except maybe a few Hurumphs. Now all the sudden some on the right want to go scorch earth about a 20 year old scandal that will do nothing but damage Trump and its not even a Trump scandal.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:16 PM (VofaG)
It's the overall point. Where's the transparency and accountability?
Ya know what, I'd be just as happy to see Fauci get it. Or some opening on Seth Rich.
Let the damn chips fall, already.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (KbCG3)
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303 Hmm, go after the auto pen pardons or Epstein?
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:17 PM (tT6L1)
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If I understand the latest development in the autopen scandal, it's that aides have admitted to presenting one group of people to pardon in a batch to Biden, Biden approved the batch, and then the aides changed the composition of the batch, getting sign off from an aide rather than Biden himself to use the autopen for the adjusted batch.
It doesn't touch the big name individuals like Fauci, but was more of the group of clemency pardons (he pardoned like 8000 people in his final weeks).
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:17 PM (tT6L1)
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If I understand the latest development in the autopen scandal, it's that aides have admitted to presenting one group of people to pardon in a batch to Biden, Biden approved the batch, and then the aides changed the composition of the batch, getting sign off from an aide rather than Biden himself to use the autopen for the adjusted batch.
It doesn't touch the big name individuals like Fauci, but was more of the group of clemency pardons (he pardoned like 8000 people in his final weeks).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Forsaking Further Conservative Victories Because of “Epstein Disappointment” is not Principled, It’s Surrender
—Buck Throckmorton
This x 1000
—Buck Throckmorton
This x 1000
Posted by: MAC V SOG at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (P4Pk9)
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Great post. Epstein is dead and good riddance. Our future as a nation has nothing to do with his dead, decaying corpse. Get over it.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (7Ygbv)
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305 I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
Disney hates spending money on IP.
I’ll let TJM explain the Lucasfilm, Marvel, and Fox acquisitions.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
Disney hates spending money on IP.
I’ll let TJM explain the Lucasfilm, Marvel, and Fox acquisitions.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (TJLr1)
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Great post. Well-reasoned and articulated. Thanks.
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (FhMCZ)
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305 I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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He's wanted to make it for years.
Disney is desperate for "safe" IP to invest in.
If you want to remake recognizable things, you're going to find work in Hollywood, it seems.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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He's wanted to make it for years.
Disney is desperate for "safe" IP to invest in.
If you want to remake recognizable things, you're going to find work in Hollywood, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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Buck, I agree 1000%.
I still have confidence that Patel and Bongino will achieve a lot in the fight to peal back the deep state corruption (Bondi, I'm not as confident).
And it blows my mind that there's a sliver of MAGA voters who are willing to blow up the Trump administration (and cede control to the communists who want to imprison you in a lifetime of misery and poverty), just because they are angry about this one issue.
Trump's a couple hundred days into a 1,500 day term that I believe will save America, or at least delay its death. I'm not willing to give up on him over this issue.
I still have confidence that Patel and Bongino will achieve a lot in the fight to peal back the deep state corruption (Bondi, I'm not as confident).
And it blows my mind that there's a sliver of MAGA voters who are willing to blow up the Trump administration (and cede control to the communists who want to imprison you in a lifetime of misery and poverty), just because they are angry about this one issue.
Trump's a couple hundred days into a 1,500 day term that I believe will save America, or at least delay its death. I'm not willing to give up on him over this issue.
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (FUliT)
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No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
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Funny that. I couldn't look in the mirror without feeling disgusted if I did anything to help a Democrat get elected.
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
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Funny that. I couldn't look in the mirror without feeling disgusted if I did anything to help a Democrat get elected.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (qBdHI)
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If I understand the latest development in the autopen scandal, it's that aides have admitted to presenting one group of people to pardon in a batch to Biden, Biden approved the batch, and then the aides changed the composition of the batch, getting sign off from an aide rather than Biden himself to use the autopen for the adjusted batch.
I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Peter Bootygig at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (1yfci)
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Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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In this, we may disagree. The DOJ may very well be stretched thin, what with people getting fired, going after Antifa, ICE protesters, etc.
Plus, Fauci can still be indicted, I believe. Whereas I'm not sure Epstein clients can be.
Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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In this, we may disagree. The DOJ may very well be stretched thin, what with people getting fired, going after Antifa, ICE protesters, etc.
Plus, Fauci can still be indicted, I believe. Whereas I'm not sure Epstein clients can be.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (tT6L1)
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Sheesh…. Mike Gallagher flogging the Curtis Sliwa campaign on the radio. I grant Sliwa is a good guy but why ask people to vote for him? He has no chance and it just helps the Muslim commie
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (5MZNC)
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314 Great post. Epstein is dead and good riddance. Our future as a nation has nothing to do with his dead, decaying corpse. Get over it.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (7Ygbv)
You don't think so? Because I think an underaged honepot run by the CIA to compromise our politicians, CEOs, scientists, etc. heavily implicates the future of the nation.
Especially since they got away with it, unharmed.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (7Ygbv)
You don't think so? Because I think an underaged honepot run by the CIA to compromise our politicians, CEOs, scientists, etc. heavily implicates the future of the nation.
Especially since they got away with it, unharmed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (uCjyK)
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320 If I understand the latest development in the autopen scandal, it's that aides have admitted to presenting one group of people to pardon in a batch to Biden, Biden approved the batch, and then the aides changed the composition of the batch, getting sign off from an aide rather than Biden himself to use the autopen for the adjusted batch.
I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
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I'd read the content of such a post!
If I could read, that is.
I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
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I'd read the content of such a post!
If I could read, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)
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Conspiracy nuts are incurable retards who will never be satisfied by the truth.
No one can ever give them what they want and they will inevitably stab you in the back because in their mind all of their allies eventually become a part of the "cover-up".
No one can ever give them what they want and they will inevitably stab you in the back because in their mind all of their allies eventually become a part of the "cover-up".
Posted by: Sjg at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (aqZN1)
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I'm convinced this has become, if not in origin now in praxis, a psy-ops to turn MAGA against Trump and itself.
I've been noting the same stock phrases on various platforms, as if from AI bots and trolls. They're swamping the comments sections at TGP. One reaction to my calls to reject the hysteria was noteworthy: I was called a "Jew lover." I never made any reference to Israel. Suddenly the unhinged rage made sense. It isn't about pedos, it's about Epstein being a Jew and maybe a Mossad agent?
I've been noting the same stock phrases on various platforms, as if from AI bots and trolls. They're swamping the comments sections at TGP. One reaction to my calls to reject the hysteria was noteworthy: I was called a "Jew lover." I never made any reference to Israel. Suddenly the unhinged rage made sense. It isn't about pedos, it's about Epstein being a Jew and maybe a Mossad agent?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (WHfpM)
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305 I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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No need for a remake for it.
The Black Hole is a religious film masquerading as sci-fi.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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No need for a remake for it.
The Black Hole is a religious film masquerading as sci-fi.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (YxG/6)
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Ace is up.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (dPfyF)
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It doesn't touch the big name individuals like Fauci, but was more of the group of clemency pardons (he pardoned like 8000 people in his final weeks).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, raining on my parade with facts is hurtful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, raining on my parade with facts is hurtful.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (tT6L1)
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They just gave Macron the full royalty treatment, with all the regal pomp and circumstance.
______ _________ _____
Was this before or after they signed the immigration deal where for every "asylum seeker" they deport, they take on another one from France.
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Was this before or after they signed the immigration deal where for every "asylum seeker" they deport, they take on another one from France.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (BUCrD)
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Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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In this, we may disagree.
Das ist verboten!
*sighs, breaks out Bic lighter*
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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In this, we may disagree.
Das ist verboten!
*sighs, breaks out Bic lighter*
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (Riz8t)
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How come no one is mad that nothing came out of the promises to release the JFK info and the UFO info?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
Because no one is being raped by JFK and aliens right now. Probably.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
Because no one is being raped by JFK and aliens right now. Probably.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (Qr870)
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21 "Lack of prosecutions." Anyone who thought there would be a single arrest -- let along prosecution -- of any of the Biden-era criminals is smoking alien hopeium.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
Arrests, Extra-judicial vigilance killings; Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
Arrests, Extra-judicial vigilance killings; Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (UnA8+)
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it's not the lurid, slaves-chained-in-basement stuff that so much of the rhetoric makes it sound like
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https://is.gd/Axs2Ln
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https://is.gd/Axs2Ln
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (L/fGl)
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Why are we protecting the Left?
They wouldn't give us that courtesy.
They wouldn't give us that courtesy.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (DoOmQ)
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I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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He's wanted to make it for years.
Disney is desperate for "safe" IP to invest in.
If you want to remake recognizable things, you're going to find work in Hollywood, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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BH is old enough and from a primitive time so that a remake with modern budgets and effects isn't a crazy idea. But if BH is remade, it will be remade like a pile of steaming dogshit. It'll be a bunch of gay DEI girlbosses. Maybe the bad guy will be a straight white guy. Maybe.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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He's wanted to make it for years.
Disney is desperate for "safe" IP to invest in.
If you want to remake recognizable things, you're going to find work in Hollywood, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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BH is old enough and from a primitive time so that a remake with modern budgets and effects isn't a crazy idea. But if BH is remade, it will be remade like a pile of steaming dogshit. It'll be a bunch of gay DEI girlbosses. Maybe the bad guy will be a straight white guy. Maybe.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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330 It doesn't touch the big name individuals like Fauci, but was more of the group of clemency pardons (he pardoned like 8000 people in his final weeks).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, raining on my parade with facts is hurtful.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (tT6L1)
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I suspect the big name pardons were done right. Too much riding on those to have any question about Biden's plenary power of pardon to arise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, raining on my parade with facts is hurtful.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (tT6L1)
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I suspect the big name pardons were done right. Too much riding on those to have any question about Biden's plenary power of pardon to arise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (GBKbO)
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337 BH is old enough and from a primitive time so that a remake with modern budgets and effects isn't a crazy idea. But if BH is remade, it will be remade like a pile of steaming dogshit. It'll be a bunch of gay DEI girlbosses. Maybe the bad guy will be a straight white guy. Maybe.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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I saw the original once.
It was dull.
Seems like a perfect thing to remake.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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I saw the original once.
It was dull.
Seems like a perfect thing to remake.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Did I call it, or what?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (Riz8t)
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The President doesn't have the luxury of a Hollywood ending to the Trolley-car Dilemma.
He, Trump, has to chose who dies.
Order the captain to proceed to certain death.
And the left has us on the right screaming and yelling that Trump must save everyone on the tracks.
As students of the Greek tragedies know, it's a tragedy because both choices are morally correct.
And both lead to unpalpable outcomes.
He, Trump, has to chose who dies.
Order the captain to proceed to certain death.
And the left has us on the right screaming and yelling that Trump must save everyone on the tracks.
As students of the Greek tragedies know, it's a tragedy because both choices are morally correct.
And both lead to unpalpable outcomes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (JThEY)
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We elected Trump and he chose the heads of various agencies, but the vast majority of the government personnel remained. Like it or not, Trump is limited in what and how fast he can change things.
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (EcHpA)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (L/fGl)
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Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (KbCG3)
The overall point is not to forfeit the wins we have and the momentum for more wins because some internet and conservative pundits didn't get a list from a 20 year old scandal . Where was this kind of demand for a 'list' prior to Trump 47? Sounds like a opposition operation to me.
The overall point is not to forfeit the wins we have and the momentum for more wins because some internet and conservative pundits didn't get a list from a 20 year old scandal . Where was this kind of demand for a 'list' prior to Trump 47? Sounds like a opposition operation to me.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (VofaG)
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As students of the Greek tragedies know, it's a tragedy because both choices are morally correct.
And both lead to unpalpable outcomes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
You know, like election day.
And both lead to unpalpable outcomes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
You know, like election day.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (L/fGl)
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We would know more about what Trump said at his rallys if the media had been broadcasting at any besides Butler.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (lPvx2)
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#325 Not one smigeon of corruption.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (DoOmQ)
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Trump should take the same attitude the Junta took against the J6 protestors and crank it to 11. Every Epstein client, every BLM/antifa leader, every Fauci minion should be looking at the J6 process on steroids.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)
Just try it!!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)
Just try it!!
Posted by: Judge Lavelle LaBelle Traffic Court Springfield Illinois at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (5xuJ/)
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July 14, 1918
Lt. Quentin Roosevelt of the Army Air Service was killed in action during a dog fight with German fighters. He was hit in the head with two bullets.
He was not yet 21 when he died.
Lt. Quentin Roosevelt of the Army Air Service was killed in action during a dog fight with German fighters. He was hit in the head with two bullets.
He was not yet 21 when he died.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (6iQ9H)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (NFX2v)
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okay I had to look up 'praxis'
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (AOsQT)
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BH is racist.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (DoOmQ)
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Nood... just talking to myself, I guess
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (EcHpA)
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Why would you not want to know who frequented Epstein's homes or island? Because it puts too much fucking pressure on Pres. Trump? Plezzz. This sexual pedator had been protected by powerful people in this country for a couple of decades. To sweep it under the carpet when we have the chance to see who the scum are, so we don't vote for them or patronize their companies is quite shameful.
Posted by: Too bad at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (Uy/WF)
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (AOsQT)
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Notice leftists are not yelling in unison to release the Epstein materials.
Maybe right before the next elections?
Maybe right before the next elections?
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (DoOmQ)
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I say let GOD sort out the Epstein situation in His way, and let President Trump perform the tasks GOD has ordained in the temporal.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (Vuu9Y)
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Trump never ran on the Epstien nonsense ... I didn't vote for him becasue of it ... if it gets exposed and prosecuted thats great ... but if it doesn't thats fine too ... my life doesn't change because of it ... Trump advancing his immigration, tax and energy policies DOES effect my life ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (DBAaD)
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Spot on, Buck. Take the victories and "keep your powder dry and hair unlit". I think (or at least hope) Trump has a plan to take care of the perps while preserving his agenda. It's a delicate trick to pull off. Like I said many times, the demokkkrats just think he was playing golf for the past four years. He was, of course, but he was also planning all of this.
Posted by: FINGERS at July 14, 2025 01:12 PM (C8ve7)
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Agreed.
Posted by: Miken at July 14, 2025 01:19 PM (lh8S0)
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"Count me among the people who would very much like to see justice come to everyone who committed a crime in their association with Jeffrey Epstein."
It's not about justice for crimes. It's about the fact that America is run by people who are (still) being blackmailed.
It's not about justice for crimes. It's about the fact that America is run by people who are (still) being blackmailed.
Posted by: Jerome at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (zIg45)
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There is absolutely no distance many in MAGA won't travel to let Trump off the hook.
He fucked up. And opening his pants and whipping out his giant tariffs isn't going to make this one go away. As it turns out, a portion of his base cars about trafficked kids as more than a campaign promise.
And yes, Dark Lord--he DID run on it.
The undertone of Trump's TS post about this says "Hey MAGA: Close your fucking mouth."
He fucked up. And opening his pants and whipping out his giant tariffs isn't going to make this one go away. As it turns out, a portion of his base cars about trafficked kids as more than a campaign promise.
And yes, Dark Lord--he DID run on it.
The undertone of Trump's TS post about this says "Hey MAGA: Close your fucking mouth."
Posted by: Marleys Ghost at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (uxXx0)
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Trump and the Republicans can do two things (or even more!) at the same time, and we his supporters do not need to blindly accept nonsense and stonewalling about one thing (the Epstein saga) in order to support Trump.
I for one am thoroughly sick of being lied to. I continue to hold out hope that the Epstein drama is a head-fake. But I'm not buying what they are selling, without a believable explanation.
I for one am thoroughly sick of being lied to. I continue to hold out hope that the Epstein drama is a head-fake. But I'm not buying what they are selling, without a believable explanation.
Posted by: boatbuilder at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (cGUxH)
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"But I also fear that whatever evidence existed has likely been destroyed, and that the lore regarding “Epstein Island” may exceed the actual crimes."
I feel you people are making excuses.
Excuses do not win wars.
We are at war w/ the Left.
Our elected representation, our politicians, are compromised and are being blackmailed. Do we have civilian govt, or do our reps act in accordance to their blackmailers and pivot when told to jump?
This is a huge civics test, and to me it looks like a failure.
I feel you people are making excuses.
Excuses do not win wars.
We are at war w/ the Left.
Our elected representation, our politicians, are compromised and are being blackmailed. Do we have civilian govt, or do our reps act in accordance to their blackmailers and pivot when told to jump?
This is a huge civics test, and to me it looks like a failure.
Posted by: mossomo at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (mttHV)
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"My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect."
Your guess is the same as mine.
They could have said as much with appropriate language. Instead we get "...nothing to see here. You can trust us."
And I don't really care all that much about who may or not have been involved. Just don't ask me to buy this crap.
Your guess is the same as mine.
They could have said as much with appropriate language. Instead we get "...nothing to see here. You can trust us."
And I don't really care all that much about who may or not have been involved. Just don't ask me to buy this crap.
Posted by: boatbuilder at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (cGUxH)
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Anonymous Conservative suggests Trump is smart enough to know his approach is not going to work, but he did it anyways. Which means he doesn't want it to work.
So he walks into a meeting of the CIA, Mossad, and MI6 chiefs, and spreads his hands wide 'I held up my end of the deal. I tried gentlemen. It failed. Unfortunately, the American People are at the door with ropes. I'd pray to Jesus for your souls, but since you all are followers of Lucifer, I'm not sure what good that would do. You have about three minutes to repent before you swing. Bye!"
So he walks into a meeting of the CIA, Mossad, and MI6 chiefs, and spreads his hands wide 'I held up my end of the deal. I tried gentlemen. It failed. Unfortunately, the American People are at the door with ropes. I'd pray to Jesus for your souls, but since you all are followers of Lucifer, I'm not sure what good that would do. You have about three minutes to repent before you swing. Bye!"
Posted by: Eric2 at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (HMtpY)
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I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Grok: https://bit.ly/4nVmxNN
Yes, during his 2024 presidential campaign, President Donald Trump raised the issue of exposing information related to Jeffrey Epstein. He indicated a willingness to release documents concerning Epstein, specifically mentioning the possibility of releasing an alleged "client list." In interviews and public statements, Trump expressed that he would have "no problem" with making such information public if elected.
For instance, in a September 2024 podcast with Lex Fridman, Trump stated he would consider releasing Epstein-related files, though he cautioned about the potential for "phony stuff" affecting people's lives. Similarly, in an October 2024 conversation with podcast host Theo Von, then-Senator JD Vance, Trump's running mate, also supported releasing an Epstein client list, emphasizing its importance. These statements fueled expectations among some supporters that Trump would push for transparency regarding Epstein’s case
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Grok: https://bit.ly/4nVmxNN
Yes, during his 2024 presidential campaign, President Donald Trump raised the issue of exposing information related to Jeffrey Epstein. He indicated a willingness to release documents concerning Epstein, specifically mentioning the possibility of releasing an alleged "client list." In interviews and public statements, Trump expressed that he would have "no problem" with making such information public if elected.
For instance, in a September 2024 podcast with Lex Fridman, Trump stated he would consider releasing Epstein-related files, though he cautioned about the potential for "phony stuff" affecting people's lives. Similarly, in an October 2024 conversation with podcast host Theo Von, then-Senator JD Vance, Trump's running mate, also supported releasing an Epstein client list, emphasizing its importance. These statements fueled expectations among some supporters that Trump would push for transparency regarding Epstein’s case
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 14, 2025 08:50 PM (P5BPp)
Mid-Morning Art Thread
Sarah Lucas Why three? Because I had to look at it, and I am a big believer in sharing the pain. This was in the modern art gallery of the Tate Britain, which is an otherwise wonderful museum, filled with great British art. For some unfathomable reason, they feel that this sort of stuff deserves to be seen. They are wrong. This is the blurb about it.
In Inferno, two walnuts and a cigar become makeshift genitalia. The warm lightbulb glowing in the bowl suggests a fiery underworld. The toilet is an intimate place and a regular subject for Sarah Lucas. Throughout her work, everyday objects are playfully transformed to expose the mischievous, destructive and vulnerable parts of life. Humour is central to her work, often creating a sense of unease. Lucas says, ‘When humour happens, things get good. Less depressing. It's a kind of magic. Suddenly things make sense.’Sarah should probably expand her horizons past the bathroom.
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:30 AM (+bLMA)
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Yikes. Someone needs a colonoscopy to figure that shit out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (2OJI2)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (Q4IgG)
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Ooohhhkaaay...
Posted by: Ummm at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (XQo4F)
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Sarah should probably expand her horizons past the bathroom.
Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM
Sarah should probably seek therapy.
Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM
Sarah should probably seek therapy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (dPfyF)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (6iQ9H)
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Yikes. Someone needs a colonoscopy to figure that shit out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM
ISWYDT.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM
ISWYDT.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (dPfyF)
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Hey, this isn't the FWP thread!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (PiwSw)
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Miss Lucas has deep and unresolved feelings about her early childhood. I'd like to study and help her.
Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (wVcYX)
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I'd definitely piss in it, feigning ignorance.
Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (0Id0S)
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Oh, FFS
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (GbwPZ)
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fART
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (BHrzb)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (HZi96)
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And the Stop Oil people never seem to throw tomato soup on pieces like this. Wonder why that is?
Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (0Id0S)
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Does Sarah also make paintings with her menstrual blood?
Asked no one with a lick of sanity ever.
Asked no one with a lick of sanity ever.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (6iQ9H)
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Sarah isn't the only one who needs an intervention.
Posted by: Sarah's innumerable cats at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (XQo4F)
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And I can smell it from here.
Why does the toilet have to be filthy and broken? If she wanted an intimate twig and berries, why not use, say a twig and berries? Something natural and clean. Modern art doesn’t seek to entertain, it seeks to invade and disgust and repel. She thinks this is humorous?
Why does the toilet have to be filthy and broken? If she wanted an intimate twig and berries, why not use, say a twig and berries? Something natural and clean. Modern art doesn’t seek to entertain, it seeks to invade and disgust and repel. She thinks this is humorous?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (2OJI2)
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What a shifty exhibit.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (ynpvh)
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Miss Lucas, you know you really need some help. A regular psychiatrist couldn't even help you. You need to come to like Vienna or something. You know what I mean? You need to get involved at the University level. Like where I studied and have all these people looking at you and checking up on you. That's the kind of help you need. Not the once a week for eighty bucks. No. You need a team. A team of psychiatrists working round the clock thinking about you, having conferences, observing you, like the way they did with the Elephant Man. That's what I'm talking about because that's the only way you're going to get better.
Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (wVcYX)
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Shitty. Fn autocucumber
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (ynpvh)
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It's no "Tampon in a Teacup".
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (BHrzb)
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Camille Paglia nailed modern art over a decade ago when she called it bankrupt.
And every exhibit since has proven her point.
And every exhibit since has proven her point.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (6iQ9H)
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Oh my Lord, this is horrible!!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (0nHVk)
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Why does the toilet have to be filthy and broken? If she wanted an intimate twig and berries, why not use, say a twig and berries? Something natural and clean. Modern art doesn’t seek to entertain, it seeks to invade and disgust and repel. She thinks this is humorous?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM
I think Brits would have gotten a chuckle from the use of an actual twig and berries.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM
I think Brits would have gotten a chuckle from the use of an actual twig and berries.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (dPfyF)
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It’s crap like this that has ruined the concept and reputation of art since the Dadaists came along a century ago.
At that point beauty & inspiration went out the window to be replaced by shock & provocation.
At that point beauty & inspiration went out the window to be replaced by shock & provocation.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (6ydKt)
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Bullsh*t. Derivative.
Posted by: Ongo Gablogian at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (PiwSw)
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It sort of "one up" the banana taped to the wall.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (Q4IgG)
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I'm getting more educated about art, thanks to this weekday thread. I could tell right away this wasn't a Kris post.
Posted by: Art and Farces at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (G5+As)
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Great. Now I need a USB-C charging dongle to light my feces and I'm stuck with all these useless Lightning cords.
Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (0Id0S)
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*Backs slowly out of room, turns, runs away screaming*
Posted by: Ty-D-Bol Man at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (wVcYX)
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I had to make sure I wasn't on the First World Problems thread.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (NpAcC)
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That toilet would really anger Alice from The Brady Bunch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (Ry3Y5)
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Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:35
I think she should be ridiculed and her “art” thrown in the dump. And then ignored.
I think she should be ridiculed and her “art” thrown in the dump. And then ignored.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (2OJI2)
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Sarah had to use a porcelain toilet because the museum refused to let her cut a hole in the floor to make it a proper loo.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:39 AM (6iQ9H)
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Modern aht is a money laundering scam.
There's the proof.
There's the proof.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 09:39 AM (Aol+p)
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Sarah should have skipped the brown acid.
Posted by: From about That Tim at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (/hiF1)
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As far as English artists go, I much prefer John Constable to this toilet artist.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (RkTHD)
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This was in the modern art gallery of the Tate Britain
Modern art is for people who do not have talent.
Witness:
A banana duct taped to a white board.
I said what I said.
Modern art is for people who do not have talent.
Witness:
A banana duct taped to a white board.
I said what I said.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (+bLMA)
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Shitter's full again!
Posted by: Cousin Eddie at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (wVcYX)
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Be like your dad, not like your sis
lift the lid before you p***
lift the lid before you p***
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (N39Ws)
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Well, it’s no “Piss Christ,” that’s for sure.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (2OJI2)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (g47mK)
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Needs some Lysol toilet bowl cleaner.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (NpAcC)
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That urinal of Marcel Duchamp would be more appropriate, because at least it would be a French piece for Bastille Day.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (BHrzb)
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Palate cleaner
https://tinyurl.com/yc2w3ufu
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)
Thank you !! *clicks on Italian Renaissance
https://tinyurl.com/yc2w3ufu
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)
Thank you !! *clicks on Italian Renaissance
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (g47mK)
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Lizzy for Art Thread mod!
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (g47mK)
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It sort of "one up" the banana taped to the wall.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM
Anything could have one-upped that garbage. Everybody knows you don't go taping no banana to no wall. That shit should have been stuck in a tailpipe, and the tailpipe mounted on the wall. Sheeeit...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM
Anything could have one-upped that garbage. Everybody knows you don't go taping no banana to no wall. That shit should have been stuck in a tailpipe, and the tailpipe mounted on the wall. Sheeeit...
Posted by: Axel Foley, Art Critic at July 14, 2025 09:43 AM (dPfyF)
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C'mon, guys... it's a shitter called "inferno" and not a single Taco Bell joke yet?
Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (0Id0S)
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Congrats, CBD. You finally found something worse than nekkid lardass on an ottoman.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (77rzZ)
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Literal trash. Call the garbage truck. Next.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (tOcjL)
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Well, at least she didn't desecrate a Ferguson.
Posted by: Al Bundy at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (wVcYX)
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Perhaps Sarah can offer up some equally humourous observations on the "playful transition" of Great Britain into an Islamic state that follows sharia law.
Perhaps Sarah can offer up some equally humourous observations on the "playful transition" of Great Britain into an Islamic state that follows sharia law.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (xG4kz)
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would not display
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (6iQ9H)
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I'd respect this more if she'd found a way to hide the power source illuminating the bowl interior. Well, not really. But that seems really sloppy and detrimental to the mystique and humor she's shooting for.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (RZ2SK)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (3Rpkk)
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I appreciate the “modern art” twist to the thread.
Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (2OJI2)
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Where's an activist throwing orange paint when you need one?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (HFcKg)
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I'm surprised some troll hasn't sat down on the toilet and taken a dump. Performance art!
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (Ry3Y5)
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And here we have the latest advancement in modern enviromental toilet technology.
The "no flow" toilet.
Just put it wherever, shit in it and forget it.
The "no flow" toilet.
Just put it wherever, shit in it and forget it.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (lPvx2)
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Well, it's Monday.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (NpAcC)
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So a representation of NYC?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (W3T6M)
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58 I appreciate the “modern art” twist to the thread.
Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (2OJI2)
The most modern art I go for is pop art...and I think the modernists have rejected it b/c it actually still has artistic merit...
Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (2OJI2)
The most modern art I go for is pop art...and I think the modernists have rejected it b/c it actually still has artistic merit...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (tOcjL)
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Where's an activist throwing orange paint when you need one?
I'm surprised some troll hasn't sat down on the toilet and taken a dump. Performance art!
They probably guard this exhibit better than a John Constable exhibit.
I'm surprised some troll hasn't sat down on the toilet and taken a dump. Performance art!
They probably guard this exhibit better than a John Constable exhibit.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (6iQ9H)
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Let's see: Rembrandt, Pre-Raphaelites, Constable, Carl Larrson, Wyeth (both NC and Andrew), Maxfield Parrish, Rockwell, even Franklin Booth and classic children's book illustrators could have been given space in the museum. Instead you have some brain dead 'artist' given space and approval by an even more brain dead board of directors.
It would be only just if someone took a dump in this 'art'. A way of saying: "You shit on us, we'll return the favor."
It would be only just if someone took a dump in this 'art'. A way of saying: "You shit on us, we'll return the favor."
Posted by: JTB at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (yTvNw)
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Be like your dad, not like your sis
lift the lid before you p***
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Sign in restaurant shitter:
We aim to please.
You aim too, please.
lift the lid before you p***
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Sign in restaurant shitter:
We aim to please.
You aim too, please.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (+bLMA)
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Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around.
Dang. This is hilarious. First thing I'd do is leave the seat up.
Goes looking for coffee.
Scratches
Looks around.
Dang. This is hilarious. First thing I'd do is leave the seat up.
Goes looking for coffee.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (W/lyH)
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Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched
Were you to visit any current art school and observe the shrapnel-scarred, overly inked and over weight denizens thereof, you'd know the answer.
It is "no".
Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched
Were you to visit any current art school and observe the shrapnel-scarred, overly inked and over weight denizens thereof, you'd know the answer.
It is "no".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (xG4kz)
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It's called "The Shitter".
It's what Great Britain has become. A Shitter. See also New York City, L.A. and Baltimore.
It's what Great Britain has become. A Shitter. See also New York City, L.A. and Baltimore.
Posted by: The Shitter. at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (rfMRc)
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Someone ate a lot of beets....that and shitty housekeeping
Posted by: night lifted at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (/YboP)
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Seems there are several Tate Museums, including one in Liverpool that has been closed since 2023, due to lack of funds for renovation. Why am I not surprised?
Posted by: Art Maven at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (G5+As)
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Humour is central to her work, often creating a sense of unease.
When only you get the joke, it isn't a joke.
When only you get the joke, it isn't a joke.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (+bLMA)
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Actually.
The more I look at the cigar and walnuts, it becomes humorous. Too bad the filthy toilet is so repulsive. All I can think of is the GI bleed the person has going on. Or a really nasty hemorrhoid.
The more I look at the cigar and walnuts, it becomes humorous. Too bad the filthy toilet is so repulsive. All I can think of is the GI bleed the person has going on. Or a really nasty hemorrhoid.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (2OJI2)
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No comment until 100. Can we hurry this shit up?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (W3T6M)
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Could use a can of tomato soup poured all over it.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (NpAcC)
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I appreciate the “modern art” twist to the thread.
Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM
Years ago the MFA had a piece in its modern "art" wing that was just a square of canvas, with the upper half painted white and the lower half painted yellow (or vice versa). I looked at my sister and said, what's this one called? Yellow and White? I looked at the tag, and sure enough, it was called Yellow White. Repulsive? No. Violent? No. Stupid AF? Yes.
Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM
Years ago the MFA had a piece in its modern "art" wing that was just a square of canvas, with the upper half painted white and the lower half painted yellow (or vice versa). I looked at my sister and said, what's this one called? Yellow and White? I looked at the tag, and sure enough, it was called Yellow White. Repulsive? No. Violent? No. Stupid AF? Yes.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (dPfyF)
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25 It’s crap like this that has ruined the concept and reputation of art since the Dadaists came along a century ago.
At that point beauty & inspiration went out the window to be replaced by shock & provocation.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (6ydKt)
The Dadaists have evolved into the Doodooists.
25 It’s crap like this that has ruined the concept and reputation of art since the Dadaists came along a century ago.
At that point beauty & inspiration went out the window to be replaced by shock & provocation.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (6ydKt)
The Dadaists have evolved into the Doodooists.
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (advWG)
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Spare Parts - a limerick
All dressed in transgender regalia
He joined a perverse bacchanalia
You may think he's gone too far
They say a cigar is just a cigar
Unless you need some makeshift genitalia!
Spare Parts - a limerick
All dressed in transgender regalia
He joined a perverse bacchanalia
You may think he's gone too far
They say a cigar is just a cigar
Unless you need some makeshift genitalia!
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (poXs5)
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No comment until 100. Can we hurry this shit up?
Take this exhibit on the Oregon Trail, that should speed things up.
Take this exhibit on the Oregon Trail, that should speed things up.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (6iQ9H)
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And even something by the modern British artist , David Hockney, would be better than pukey pink and broken toilet bowl:
https://tinyurl.com/yc6z39xa
https://tinyurl.com/yc6z39xa
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (RkTHD)
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Easily a cigar that will not get a review on the gub thread.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (W/lyH)
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If I had to critique this I'd have to say it's pretty shitty....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (VE6XX)
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Kinda reminds me of the recurring dream I have where I'm in a public place and really have to poop, but every toilet I can find is either unspeakably nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (77rzZ)
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The Dadaists have evolved into the Doodooists.
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (advWG)
Is all I want to say to you.
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (advWG)
Is all I want to say to you.
Posted by: Sting at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (wVcYX)
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I'd like to see some urban street art. You know, where an ugly wall has been transformed into a pleasing mural or creative scene.
Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (XQo4F)
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I remember when I was at the Tate there was a big pile of gravel in an open gallery. Renovations I guess? Wait, it's roped off...
No wait, this is an exhibit. lol
No wait, this is an exhibit. lol
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (jGJov)
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The choice of "male" genitalia here is highly problematic. It underscores the artist's complete surrender to Patriarchial systems of control and oppression. At least the artist could have deigned to balance the choice with a symbol of female genitalia - Georgia O'Keefe weeps -- that would offset the toxic testoteronivitity of the current piece.
On the other hand, gay art patrons might find this stimulating, so I will grant that, given the viewer's perspective, it may not be totally without merit.
On the other hand, gay art patrons might find this stimulating, so I will grant that, given the viewer's perspective, it may not be totally without merit.
Posted by: Your Kid's Art Teacher at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (PiwSw)
89
53
I ought to have said "... favour us with ..." instead of "... offer up ..."
I hate missing opportunities to mock English spelling by actually it in postings.
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I ought to have said "... favour us with ..." instead of "... offer up ..."
I hate missing opportunities to mock English spelling by actually it in postings.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (xG4kz)
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If I had to critique this I'd have to say it's pretty shitty....
Posted by: It's me donna
Your comment identifies as #100.
Posted by: It's me donna
Your comment identifies as #100.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (Q0+ef)
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"‘When humour happens, things get good. Less depressing. It's a kind of magic. Suddenly things make sense."
The eloquence of this description transcends even the art itself.
The eloquence of this description transcends even the art itself.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (ERYKL)
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Since this is Bastille day is this a metaphor for France ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 09:53 AM (VE6XX)
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Would have actually been humourous if the seat was slammed on top of the twig.
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:53 AM (advWG)
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86 I'd like to see some urban street art. You know, where an ugly wall has been transformed into a pleasing mural or creative scene.
Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (XQo4F)
I agree - graffiti can also be wildly better modern art than most modern art (it's probably rejected, too)...
Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (XQo4F)
I agree - graffiti can also be wildly better modern art than most modern art (it's probably rejected, too)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:54 AM (tOcjL)
95
I remember when I was at the Tate there was a big pile of gravel in an open gallery. Renovations I guess? Wait, it's roped off...
No wait, this is an exhibit. lol
Posted by: brak at
Art like that, is why London's skyline looks worse today, than at the height of Hitler bombing it in the 40s.
No wait, this is an exhibit. lol
Posted by: brak at
Art like that, is why London's skyline looks worse today, than at the height of Hitler bombing it in the 40s.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 09:54 AM (Q0+ef)
96
In this land of sand and sun, we never flush for #1!
Posted by: Every Drop Counts! at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (G5+As)
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Now do one plugged with feminine hygiene products and overflowing water onto the floor, Sarah.
Lotsa humour there, you stupid bint.
Now do one plugged with feminine hygiene products and overflowing water onto the floor, Sarah.
Lotsa humour there, you stupid bint.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (xG4kz)
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56 I'd respect this more if she'd found a way to hide the power source illuminating the bowl interior. Well, not really. But that seems really sloppy and detrimental to the mystique and humor she's shooting for.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (RZ2SK)
Thank you! That wiring mess is bothering me. She could have made an effort at least.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (RZ2SK)
Thank you! That wiring mess is bothering me. She could have made an effort at least.
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (advWG)
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84 Kinda reminds me of the recurring dream I have where I'm in a public place and really have to poop, but every toilet I can find is either unspeakably nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM
I can help you out.
https://youtu.be/LuePe_-6C80
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM
I can help you out.
https://youtu.be/LuePe_-6C80
Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (XQo4F)
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Art like that, is why London's skyline looks worse today, than at the height of Hitler bombing it in the 40s.
Posted by: BifBewalski
I remember when Prince Tampon was criticizing modern architecture back in the 80s.
Posted by: BifBewalski
I remember when Prince Tampon was criticizing modern architecture back in the 80s.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 09:56 AM (fV+MH)
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96 In this land of sand and sun, we never flush for #1!
Posted by: Every Drop Counts
If it’s yellow, let it mellow
If it’s brown, flush it down.
Things grampa used to say at the cabin with limited water and a septic system.
Posted by: Every Drop Counts
If it’s yellow, let it mellow
If it’s brown, flush it down.
Things grampa used to say at the cabin with limited water and a septic system.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (2OJI2)
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Since this is Bastille day is this a metaphor for France ?
Posted by: It's me donna
It would need copious amounts of merde to so qualify.
Since this is Bastille day is this a metaphor for France ?
Posted by: It's me donna
It would need copious amounts of merde to so qualify.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (xG4kz)
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So how much did the "artist" get paid for this shit?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)
105
Art? Good grief. What's next, a pile of sh*t?
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (ilX37)
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Heh, watched most of Moonstruck this weekend. It was good. Two takeways; (1) this movie made Nicolas Cage a star, and (2) Cher was not always nutty. She gave a good performance. The other takeaway is how shit house crazy things now compared to then.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:58 AM (W3T6M)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 09:58 AM (Gf636)
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So how much did the "artist" get paid for this shit?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)
2.6 Euros.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)
2.6 Euros.
Posted by: USAID Down The Shitter at July 14, 2025 09:58 AM (rfMRc)
109
That'll teach you to talk about you know what nonstop !
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:59 AM (g47mK)
110
The picture was bad enough but the blurb made it even worse.
I have a particularly apt Yiddish word for this: Dreck.
I have a particularly apt Yiddish word for this: Dreck.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 09:59 AM (t/2Uw)
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Heh, watched most of Moonstruck this weekend. It was good. Two takeways; (1) this movie made Nicolas Cage a star, and (2) Cher was not always nutty. She gave a good performance. The other takeaway is how shit house crazy things now compared to then.
Posted by: pudinhead
That's one of my favorite flics. And Cher did do a good job.
"Snap out of it!"
Posted by: pudinhead
That's one of my favorite flics. And Cher did do a good job.
"Snap out of it!"
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:59 AM (77rzZ)
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Art? Good grief. What's next, a pile of sh*t?
Posted by: Case
See Brak's #87. The rock troll from The Fantastic Four crapped on the floor.
Posted by: Case
See Brak's #87. The rock troll from The Fantastic Four crapped on the floor.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:00 AM (Q0+ef)
113
traditional art is sooo Déclassé
you just wouldn't understand
(oh and you know who liked traditional art? that's right - Hitler. You reich wing haters)
you just wouldn't understand
(oh and you know who liked traditional art? that's right - Hitler. You reich wing haters)
Posted by: Art History Professor at July 14, 2025 10:00 AM (jGJov)
114
Sarah could have used a battery powered LED light strip. But imagine having to replace that battery pack.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 10:01 AM (6iQ9H)
115
It would need copious amounts of merde to so qualify.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (xG4kz)
They seem to be sending copious amounts of merde across the channel. All those phony "asylum seekers". Which muslim countries are persecuting military aged able bodied muslim males?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (xG4kz)
They seem to be sending copious amounts of merde across the channel. All those phony "asylum seekers". Which muslim countries are persecuting military aged able bodied muslim males?
Posted by: night lifted at July 14, 2025 10:01 AM (/YboP)
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113 traditional art is sooo Déclassé
you just wouldn't understand
(oh and you know who liked traditional art? that's right - Hitler. You reich wing haters)
Posted by: Art History Professor at July 14, 2025 10:00 AM (jGJov)
I had an art professor in College who sounded just like this...
you just wouldn't understand
(oh and you know who liked traditional art? that's right - Hitler. You reich wing haters)
Posted by: Art History Professor at July 14, 2025 10:00 AM (jGJov)
I had an art professor in College who sounded just like this...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 10:01 AM (VE6XX)
117
Ooh look! My favorite place for breakfast!
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 10:01 AM (MFI7Z)
118
Two types of artists - ones that can paint humans and then the ones that can't.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:02 AM (W3T6M)
Posted by: Beverly at July 14, 2025 10:02 AM (Epeb0)
120
Marcel Duchamp did this more than 100 years ago.
Sarah is not only bereft of talent, she is derivative.
Sarah is not only bereft of talent, she is derivative.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:02 AM (VTAje)
121
Cher can actually sound smart when she's reading someone else's words.
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 10:02 AM (fV+MH)
122
Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
If I encountered that in the wild I'd shit at the front counter and claim I had actually cleaned the place up by putting down some fresh shit.
If I encountered that in the wild I'd shit at the front counter and claim I had actually cleaned the place up by putting down some fresh shit.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (lPvx2)
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121 Cher can actually sound smart when she's reading someone else's words.
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
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Maybe. But in 1987 she was still hot.
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
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Maybe. But in 1987 she was still hot.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (W3T6M)
124
I remember when Prince Tampon was criticizing modern architecture back in the 80s.
Posted by: Bulg
Pack some tampons in an opened tin meant for sardines or kippers and hawk it as a "Tribute to King Tampon III".
Your crucial decision would be: oil or water packed?
To be even more au courant, dare you consider packing them in tomato sauce, or would you decline and opt for mustard sauce instead?
Come to think of it, such a thing would be a fitting remembrance token for him when he passes on.
I remember when Prince Tampon was criticizing modern architecture back in the 80s.
Posted by: Bulg
Pack some tampons in an opened tin meant for sardines or kippers and hawk it as a "Tribute to King Tampon III".
Your crucial decision would be: oil or water packed?
To be even more au courant, dare you consider packing them in tomato sauce, or would you decline and opt for mustard sauce instead?
Come to think of it, such a thing would be a fitting remembrance token for him when he passes on.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:04 AM (xG4kz)
125
Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
Posted by: Reforger
Did she find it like that, or nasty it up herself?
Like I said above, it reminds me of the toilets in my I-really-gotta-poop dreams.
Posted by: Reforger
Did she find it like that, or nasty it up herself?
Like I said above, it reminds me of the toilets in my I-really-gotta-poop dreams.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (77rzZ)
126
If the bowl is not cracked someone should haul it home.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (W3T6M)
127
But in 1987 she was still hot.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (W3T6M)
And a superb actor in this movie. Hell...everyone was great!
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (W3T6M)
And a superb actor in this movie. Hell...everyone was great!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (VTAje)
128
Cher can actually sound smart when she's reading someone else's words.
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
Posted by: eleven
Never go full retard.
- Sergeant Kirk Lazarus
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
Posted by: eleven
Never go full retard.
- Sergeant Kirk Lazarus
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (Q0+ef)
129
Sarah is not only bereft of talent, she is derivative.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
To proclaim an artist as being derivative is as foul a descriptor as you can attach to them. The "great ego deflator", as it were.
Sarah is not only bereft of talent, she is derivative.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
To proclaim an artist as being derivative is as foul a descriptor as you can attach to them. The "great ego deflator", as it were.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (xG4kz)
130
128 Never go full retard.
- Sergeant Kirk Lazarus
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (Q0+ef)
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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.
- Sergeant Kirk Lazarus
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (Q0+ef)
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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (GBKbO)
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123 121 Cher can actually sound smart when she's reading someone else's words.
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
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Maybe. But in 1987 she was still hot.
Posted by: pudinhead
Cher has been world famous since 1964. Y'all are just haters!
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
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Maybe. But in 1987 she was still hot.
Posted by: pudinhead
Cher has been world famous since 1964. Y'all are just haters!
Posted by: Caesar and Cleo at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (G5+As)
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127 But in 1987 she was still hot.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (W3T6M)
And a superb actor in this movie. Hell...everyone was great!
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Yep. It is a jewel of a film.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (W3T6M)
And a superb actor in this movie. Hell...everyone was great!
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Yep. It is a jewel of a film.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:07 AM (W3T6M)
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131 Cher has been world famous since 1964. Y'all are just haters!
Posted by: Caesar and Cleo at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (G5+As)
======
William Friedkin, director of The Exorcist, directed the Sonny and Cher movie.
Posted by: Caesar and Cleo at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (G5+As)
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William Friedkin, director of The Exorcist, directed the Sonny and Cher movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:07 AM (GBKbO)
134
Cher has been world famous since 1964. Y'all are just haters!
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I'm so old I remember when Sears were selling Sony and Cher sip up furry vests.
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I'm so old I remember when Sears were selling Sony and Cher sip up furry vests.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (W3T6M)
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (77rzZ)
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Posted by: BifBewalski
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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Somehow, I knew you would get that.
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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Somehow, I knew you would get that.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (Q0+ef)
137
>>>Art like that, is why London's skyline looks worse today, than at the height of Hitler bombing it in the 40s.
full of ugly modern skyscrapers funded by Qatari and Saudi money
full of ugly modern skyscrapers funded by Qatari and Saudi money
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (jGJov)
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136 Posted by: BifBewalski
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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Somehow, I knew you would get that.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (Q0+ef)
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I don't get it.
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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Somehow, I knew you would get that.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (Q0+ef)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)
139
She could have easily hidden most of the wiring underneath the toilet. The power cord could’ve been hidden by building a pedestal, running the wiring through it, and backing it up against the wall.
But since it’s obvious she threw this thing together in about three days that would’ve required too much work, and the laziness of the entire piece calls for more obvious laziness just to keep the theme going.
I’m not a teenage boy anymore, so bathroom humor no longer really appeals to me.
The sad part is this thing has probably got a sky-high price estimate on it when it’s only worth the price of the part she pulled out of a garbage heap and the cost of some led lights and a cigar.
I never really cared about the “Found Art” trend (which is what this installation basically is) but it’s been all the rage in art schools for decades.
But since it’s obvious she threw this thing together in about three days that would’ve required too much work, and the laziness of the entire piece calls for more obvious laziness just to keep the theme going.
I’m not a teenage boy anymore, so bathroom humor no longer really appeals to me.
The sad part is this thing has probably got a sky-high price estimate on it when it’s only worth the price of the part she pulled out of a garbage heap and the cost of some led lights and a cigar.
I never really cared about the “Found Art” trend (which is what this installation basically is) but it’s been all the rage in art schools for decades.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (6ydKt)
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The sad part is this thing has probably got a sky-high price estimate on it when it’s only worth the price of the part she pulled out of a garbage heap and the cost of some led lights and a cigar.
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My guess the art world, like Hollywood, is in business to launder money.
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My guess the art world, like Hollywood, is in business to launder money.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:10 AM (W3T6M)
141
Dunno, that seems to cry out for a sledge hammer to me . . .
Posted by: 0007 at July 14, 2025 10:10 AM (ZrNSG)
142
When a shitter pulled out of an abandoned crack house gets LED lights and is called art the world..is..fucked.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 10:11 AM (snZF9)
143
I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)
You're a dude who doesn't get it pretending to be a dude who gets it pretending to be a dude who doesn't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)
You're a dude who doesn't get it pretending to be a dude who gets it pretending to be a dude who doesn't get it.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (lPvx2)
144
You all are hilarious. At least this s***** exhibit gave you something to sharpen your wits on.
Those who write on bathroom walls
roll their shit in little balls.
Those who read these words of wit
eat those little balls of shit.
Those who write on bathroom walls
roll their shit in little balls.
Those who read these words of wit
eat those little balls of shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (+bLMA)
145
I'm not sophisticated enough to appreciate this.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (L/fGl)
146
Yawn, an Art Critique - a limerick
An over-clever clownish buffoon
A heavy-handed dim-witted goon
She must have thought we'd never
See an artist oh so clever?
But shocking Normies is just so jejune!
Yawn, an Art Critique - a limerick
An over-clever clownish buffoon
A heavy-handed dim-witted goon
She must have thought we'd never
See an artist oh so clever?
But shocking Normies is just so jejune!
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (poXs5)
147
I never really cared about the “Found Art” trend (which is what this installation basically is) but it’s been all the rage in art schools for decades.
And yet its purveyors insist it's edgy and avant garde. It became garde after DuChamp.
And yet its purveyors insist it's edgy and avant garde. It became garde after DuChamp.
Posted by: James Comey at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (Riz8t)
148
With their deliberately hideous exhibits, the Tate Museum has become like the whore that the self-hater pays to defecate on his face.
There's a soul sickness in Western culture.
There's a soul sickness in Western culture.
Posted by: Beverly at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (Epeb0)
149
143 I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)
You're a dude who doesn't get it pretending to be a dude who gets it pretending to be a dude who doesn't get it.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (lPvx2)
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I think I would understand this.
If I could read.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)
You're a dude who doesn't get it pretending to be a dude who gets it pretending to be a dude who doesn't get it.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (lPvx2)
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I think I would understand this.
If I could read.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (Riz8t)
151
Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
Posted by: Reforger
Tuna boats. Mechanic shops. (For the mechanics, not the customers) Truck stops.
Posted by: Reforger
Tuna boats. Mechanic shops. (For the mechanics, not the customers) Truck stops.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (+bLMA)
152
It truly does always come down to bathroom humor.
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (6LBk0)
153
The artist knows her intended audience. She's making bank selling garbage to art museums.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (lUFok)
154
100 rule?
REPORT: Ghislaine Maxwell Ready to Testify Before Congress — Could Blow Lid Off Epstein Files and Elite Pedophile Network
G. Maxwell commits suicide.
No evidence of foul play...
REPORT: Ghislaine Maxwell Ready to Testify Before Congress — Could Blow Lid Off Epstein Files and Elite Pedophile Network
G. Maxwell commits suicide.
No evidence of foul play...
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 10:15 AM (tm0oK)
155
I’m not a teenage boy anymore, so bathroom humor no longer really appeals to me.
**********
Let's not be hasty here. You're talking about my whole oeuvre...
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Let's not be hasty here. You're talking about my whole oeuvre...
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:15 AM (poXs5)
156
There's a soul sickness in Western culture.
Posted by: Beverly
All of those people who have spent sooo much time and energy denying God's existence, sure have accepted his fallen angel without question.
Posted by: Beverly
All of those people who have spent sooo much time and energy denying God's existence, sure have accepted his fallen angel without question.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:16 AM (+bLMA)
157
Amazing to me that much modern 'Art' is childish, devoid of skill and immature.
Akin to our government servants now that I think about it.
Akin to our government servants now that I think about it.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (cYBz/)
158
The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (tm0oK)
159
It truly does always come down to bathroom humor.
Posted by: Polka will never die
And bewbs.
Pull my finger.
Posted by: Polka will never die
And bewbs.
Pull my finger.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (+bLMA)
160
Well, I see CBD has decided to plumb new depths of depravity in the world of art.
Ugh. Even my toilet at home doesn't look this bad.
Ugh. Even my toilet at home doesn't look this bad.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (7fElN)
161
I think I would understand this.
If I could read.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (GBKbO)
I don't get it. How?...
Nevermind.
If I could read.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (GBKbO)
I don't get it. How?...
Nevermind.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (lPvx2)
162
The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
Posted by: Operator Error
Lance Armstrong.
Posted by: Operator Error
Lance Armstrong.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:18 AM (+bLMA)
163
Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
Posted by: Reforger
Taco Bell after the lunch rush.
Posted by: Reforger
Taco Bell after the lunch rush.
Posted by: reason at July 14, 2025 10:18 AM (X19j8)
164
Glenn Greenwald@ggreenwald
1) One of Epstein's closest friends was former Israeli PM Ehud Barak.
2) A key source of Epstein's vast wealth, though mysterious, was from Les Wexner, whose primary life cause is Israel.
3) Ghislaine Maxwell's father - the billionaire Robert Maxwell -- was a Mossad agent who mysteriously died after that was reported. Though Maxwell was British, Israel gave him a state funeral when he died.
4) Epstein got the red carpet treatment when visiting Israel.
5) Epstein bankrolled major investments in Israeli tech.
(Evidence below)
But fine, if Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence or any other intel service - which is theoretically possible - why can't Pam Bondi, CIA and FBI say that?
1) One of Epstein's closest friends was former Israeli PM Ehud Barak.
2) A key source of Epstein's vast wealth, though mysterious, was from Les Wexner, whose primary life cause is Israel.
3) Ghislaine Maxwell's father - the billionaire Robert Maxwell -- was a Mossad agent who mysteriously died after that was reported. Though Maxwell was British, Israel gave him a state funeral when he died.
4) Epstein got the red carpet treatment when visiting Israel.
5) Epstein bankrolled major investments in Israeli tech.
(Evidence below)
But fine, if Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence or any other intel service - which is theoretically possible - why can't Pam Bondi, CIA and FBI say that?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 14, 2025 10:19 AM (TGPs7)
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Paulie Walnuts wuz here!
Paulie Walnuts wuz here!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:19 AM (xG4kz)
166
The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
The squirrel in Ice Age?
The squirrel in Ice Age?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 AM (Riz8t)
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Posted by: Beverly at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (Epeb0)
This was at the Tate Britain, which is a superb museum and not to be confused with the Tate Modern, which is worth visiting...once, and mostly because the building is sort of interesting.
This was at the Tate Britain, which is a superb museum and not to be confused with the Tate Modern, which is worth visiting...once, and mostly because the building is sort of interesting.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:20 AM (VTAje)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:20 AM (Zz0t1)
169
Literal shArt.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:20 AM (Zz0t1)
170
The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
Posted by: Operator Error
The blind squirrel?
The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
Posted by: Operator Error
The blind squirrel?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM (xG4kz)
171
I had a John Cleese moment in the Tate London once. Bending over to look at the sig on a painting, I sensed a head close by. Someone else examining the signature.
That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM (zeLd4)
172
It's embarrassing for the world that this is considered art and put on display somewhere for anyone to see.
That woman is damaged. Toxicology report required. She's pharmaceutically damaged beyond repair.
That woman is damaged. Toxicology report required. She's pharmaceutically damaged beyond repair.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM (Zz0t1)
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A lot of "art" is commissioned. So, someone pays for it.
I've no idea what the story is behind that piece above, but if it was commissioned the person who paid for it is nutz. The "artist" is obviously, certifiably nutz.
I've no idea what the story is behind that piece above, but if it was commissioned the person who paid for it is nutz. The "artist" is obviously, certifiably nutz.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 10:22 AM (Q4IgG)
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REPORT: Ghislaine Maxwell Ready to Testify Before Congress — Could Blow Lid Off Epstein Files and Elite Pedophile Network
Probably the single most effective way to slow the Trump Train and affect the midterms is to get rid of her. And the more suspicious, the worse it would be.
Probably the single most effective way to slow the Trump Train and affect the midterms is to get rid of her. And the more suspicious, the worse it would be.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 10:22 AM (W/lyH)
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The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
The squirrel in Ice Age?
Posted by: Archimedes
Did Scrat ever actually possess the nut? I know he chased it thru three films.
The squirrel in Ice Age?
Posted by: Archimedes
Did Scrat ever actually possess the nut? I know he chased it thru three films.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:22 AM (+bLMA)
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This was at the Tate Britain, which is a superb museum and not to be xonfused with the Tate Modern, whish is worth visiting...once, and mostly because the building is sort of interesting.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I must say I did enjoy the Imperial War Museum in London. Continuing to keep the word 'War' in the title is a nice touch in this day and age. The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I must say I did enjoy the Imperial War Museum in London. Continuing to keep the word 'War' in the title is a nice touch in this day and age. The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:23 AM (cYBz/)
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The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:23 AM (cYBz/)
Agreed!
And there is a good pub just down the street.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:23 AM (cYBz/)
Agreed!
And there is a good pub just down the street.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:24 AM (VTAje)
178
Thanks for ruining my morning. Its like getting mugged, then deciding to go out and mug someone else, because you got mugged. Logic of the dawned, indeed.
Posted by: Please stop at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (WcEAX)
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That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Connie Booth - "Don't mention the war."
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Connie Booth - "Don't mention the war."
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (cYBz/)
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The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
The squirrel in Ice Age?
Posted by: Archimedes
Did Scrat ever actually possess the nut? I know he chased it thru three films.
Can we ever really "possess" something, or does it possess us?
The squirrel in Ice Age?
Posted by: Archimedes
Did Scrat ever actually possess the nut? I know he chased it thru three films.
Can we ever really "possess" something, or does it possess us?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (Riz8t)
181
REPORT: Ghislaine Maxwell Ready to Testify Before Congress — Could Blow Lid Off Epstein Files and Elite Pedophile Network
Probably the single most effective way to slow the Trump Train and affect the midterms is to get rid of her. And the more suspicious, the worse it would be.
Posted by: Diogenes
I am reminded of Donnie Wahlberg pulling out a can of lighter fluid and setting the evidence audio tape on fire in "Shooter".
"This thing's plutonium!" (Or words to that effect.)
REPORT: Ghislaine Maxwell Ready to Testify Before Congress — Could Blow Lid Off Epstein Files and Elite Pedophile Network
Probably the single most effective way to slow the Trump Train and affect the midterms is to get rid of her. And the more suspicious, the worse it would be.
Posted by: Diogenes
I am reminded of Donnie Wahlberg pulling out a can of lighter fluid and setting the evidence audio tape on fire in "Shooter".
"This thing's plutonium!" (Or words to that effect.)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (xG4kz)
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178 Thanks for ruining my morning. Its like getting mugged, then deciding to go out and mug someone else, because you got mugged. Logic of the dawned, indeed.
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This is how Zombies do it.
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This is how Zombies do it.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:26 AM (W3T6M)
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I just visited Tate Britain a month ago. I made a beeline for the Turner and Constable galleries and - thankfully - entirely missed this garbage. In fact, all of the "modern" art on display that I saw on the way to the Turners looked like silly nonsense.
Posted by: JTSmith at July 14, 2025 10:26 AM (YK9Am)
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Thanks for ruining my morning.
Posted by: Please stop at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (WcEAX)
You are very welcome!
Posted by: Please stop at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (WcEAX)
You are very welcome!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:27 AM (VTAje)
185
I must say I did enjoy the Imperial War Museum in London. Continuing to keep the word 'War' in the title is a nice touch in this day and age. The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!
They had a pretty cool display which was a reproduction of a soldier in a deep shellhole, with suitable artillery sounds and flashes on the horizon. I wonder if it's still there.
They had a pretty cool display which was a reproduction of a soldier in a deep shellhole, with suitable artillery sounds and flashes on the horizon. I wonder if it's still there.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:27 AM (Riz8t)
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The Imperial War Museum is nice if you don't read all the captions blaming the British Empire for all the world's ills.
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (EcHpA)
187
One nut is much more provocative than two.
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (tm0oK)
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That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Connie Booth. (68-7
Useless Trivia: Similar to Firefly, there were only 12 episodes.
Season 1 1975
Season 2 1979
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Connie Booth. (68-7
Useless Trivia: Similar to Firefly, there were only 12 episodes.
Season 1 1975
Season 2 1979
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (+bLMA)
189
I guess it could be a metaphor for Biden's Presidency.
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (ilX37)
190
Connie Booth was born in Indianapolis btw.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (cYBz/)
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186 The Imperial War Museum is nice if you don't read all the captions blaming the British Empire for all the world's ills.
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Same deal with Mount Vernon. A Whole Lotta Slave Porn going on.
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Same deal with Mount Vernon. A Whole Lotta Slave Porn going on.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (W3T6M)
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I guess it could be a metaphor for Biden's Presidency.
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (ilX37)
Alternate Title: The Liberal Mind
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (ilX37)
Alternate Title: The Liberal Mind
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (Zz0t1)
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I'm going to assume that "Sarah" Lucas is a troon...
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (UnA8+)
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The only museum I visited the one time I was in London was the Victoria and Albert.
And the only thing I remember from that was the reproduction of Trajan's Column.
And the only thing I remember from that was the reproduction of Trajan's Column.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Did the Trump admin really think they could just sweep the Epstein case under the rug? That’s a bigly yuuge error.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (ImXfC)
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Can we ever really "possess" something, or does it possess us?
Posted by: Archimedes
Snaps fingers on both hands.
"Deep man. That's deep".
Posted by: Archimedes
Snaps fingers on both hands.
"Deep man. That's deep".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (+bLMA)
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all of the "modern" art on display that I saw on the way to the Turners looked like silly nonsense.
Posted by: JTSmith at July 14, 2025 10:26 AM (YK9Am)
I think they did that on purpose to goose the views of the modern art.
Posted by: JTSmith at July 14, 2025 10:26 AM (YK9Am)
I think they did that on purpose to goose the views of the modern art.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:30 AM (VTAje)
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I'm so old I remember when Sears were selling Sony and Cher sip up furry vests.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (W3T6M)
Those were before my time, but I remember Sears.
*Hank Hill voice*
“Gawd I miss that store”
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (W3T6M)
Those were before my time, but I remember Sears.
*Hank Hill voice*
“Gawd I miss that store”
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 10:31 AM (advWG)
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Connie Booth was born in Indianapolis btw.
Posted by: Tonypete
I did not know she was in MP & the Holy Grail.
She was the witch.
Posted by: Tonypete
I did not know she was in MP & the Holy Grail.
She was the witch.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (+bLMA)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (Q4IgG)
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eventually the Tate Britain will be a mosque and the only art allowed in there will be geometric mosaics, but at least no light up toilets and piles of rocks
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (jGJov)
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The Imperial War Museum is nice if you don't read all the captions blaming the British Empire for all the world's ills.
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (EcHpA)
They redid the National Portrait Gallery, and the captions and blurbs are vile. Luckily they can't f*ck up the art!
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (EcHpA)
They redid the National Portrait Gallery, and the captions and blurbs are vile. Luckily they can't f*ck up the art!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:33 AM (VTAje)
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This is a magnificent work of art. I can only imagine the hours of work the artist put into creating it. The lighting and perspective are so realistic. Saving this to use as my computer background screen. Thanks, so much for posting it.
Needs toilet paper dispenser, though.
Needs toilet paper dispenser, though.
Posted by: mindful webworker - actually, that's $#!+ at July 14, 2025 10:33 AM (+kBwA)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 14, 2025 10:33 AM (advWG)
205
You can look at Stuppleart.com to look at art just a little better.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:33 AM (VofaG)
206
While in London my son pulled some strings and got me into the Albert Hall around midnight. It was surprisingly busy with someone practicing a piece on their organ. Fantastic, heavenly, magnificent - superlatives pale - the organist (and organ) were that good.
I read later it has almost 1000 pipes.
I read later it has almost 1000 pipes.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:34 AM (cYBz/)
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WTF?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 10:35 AM (Pce4l)
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 14, 2025 10:35 AM (89Sog)
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189 I guess it could be a metaphor for Biden's Presidency.
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (ilX37)
Or the SCOAMF's presidential library. Contains both books he didn't write, plus all his articles from his tenure at the Harvard Law Review
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (ilX37)
Or the SCOAMF's presidential library. Contains both books he didn't write, plus all his articles from his tenure at the Harvard Law Review
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 14, 2025 10:36 AM (6LBk0)
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Same deal with Mount Vernon. A Whole Lotta Slave Porn going on."
Yeah. Used to be a colorful interesting place. For the past decade it's drab, dull, and never ending litany of slaaaavery. And all Americans (except illegals) should feel remorse.
Daily.
Not terribly optimistic...
Yeah. Used to be a colorful interesting place. For the past decade it's drab, dull, and never ending litany of slaaaavery. And all Americans (except illegals) should feel remorse.
Daily.
Not terribly optimistic...
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 10:36 AM (tubbA)
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I can see it now; "Truckstop Toilets."
“And the Men Who Use Them”
-Bawack Obama
“And Why PublicFunding to Keep Them Open is Essential”
-David Fwench
“And the Men Who Use Them”
-Bawack Obama
“And Why PublicFunding to Keep Them Open is Essential”
-David Fwench
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (advWG)
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Was it something we said? If it'll help any, I'll promise never to put maple syrup on French toast ever again.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (q3u5l)
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (VofaG)
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While in London my son pulled some strings and got me into the Albert Hall around midnight. It was surprisingly busy with someone practicing a piece on their organ. Fantastic, heavenly, magnificent - superlatives pale - the organist (and organ) were that good.
I read later it has almost 1000 pipes.
Posted by: Tonypete
That would be cool.
I read later it has almost 1000 pipes.
Posted by: Tonypete
That would be cool.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (+bLMA)
215
Ooh, there's no bread, let them eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth
But they're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth
But they're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise
Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (Pce4l)
Posted by: Gene Wilder at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (L/fGl)
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Art Anal-ysis -a limerick
She's borderline insane, she's lost the plot
It's a foul bowel obsession that she's got
It seems her only theses
Are coprophilia and feces
Her tangled stool obsession? A Freud knot!
She's borderline insane, she's lost the plot
It's a foul bowel obsession that she's got
It seems her only theses
Are coprophilia and feces
Her tangled stool obsession? A Freud knot!
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (poXs5)
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Ooh, bloodstained velvet, dirty lace
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow when they rode by
And we're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled to let his kingdom rise
Ooh, bloodstained velvet, dirty lace
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow when they rode by
And we're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled to let his kingdom rise
Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (Pce4l)
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And the only thing I remember from that was the reproduction of Trajan's Column.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (77rzZ)
I was in the pool!
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (77rzZ)
I was in the pool!
Posted by: Trajan at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (vYDwg)
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I can see it now; "Truckstop Toilets."
Probably on PBS.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (Q4IgG)
Was watching some old Overhaulin' episodes yesterday. One of the "cons" was Chris Jacobs pretending to be a director and had bought a guy's AMC AMX to use in his new series "Blowing Up Cars in Slow Motion."
"Maybe you've seen my other works......"Blowing Up Boats in Slow Motion" or "Blowing Up Planes in Slow Motion.""
I chuckled.
Probably on PBS.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (Q4IgG)
Was watching some old Overhaulin' episodes yesterday. One of the "cons" was Chris Jacobs pretending to be a director and had bought a guy's AMC AMX to use in his new series "Blowing Up Cars in Slow Motion."
"Maybe you've seen my other works......"Blowing Up Boats in Slow Motion" or "Blowing Up Planes in Slow Motion.""
I chuckled.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (Zz0t1)
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Ooh, there's no bread, let them eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth
But they're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise
Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (Pce4l)
Not my favorite, but still a great song.
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth
But they're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise
Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (Pce4l)
Not my favorite, but still a great song.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (i24o9)
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Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago, the mould was cast
For they marched up to Bastille Day
The guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys
Oh!
Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago, the mould was cast
For they marched up to Bastille Day
The guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys
Oh!
Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (Pce4l)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:40 AM (VTAje)
225
A great poem by a great poet is NOT spam.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 10:40 AM (Pce4l)
226
The modern art was angry that day, my friends.
Posted by: George Costanza at July 14, 2025 10:40 AM (XQo4F)
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I see today's "art" is a live look in at CNN.
BTW, I know some of you are passionate about the Epstein deal, and you are right--child predators deserve worse than death.
But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
Egging this on for a fight.
And if you want to say, but maybe this time they are dealing honestly and fairly, go ahead.
But if it's Trump vs. CNN, it's 100% Trump all the time--no matter how bad a "look" it is for Trump.
BTW, I know some of you are passionate about the Epstein deal, and you are right--child predators deserve worse than death.
But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
Egging this on for a fight.
And if you want to say, but maybe this time they are dealing honestly and fairly, go ahead.
But if it's Trump vs. CNN, it's 100% Trump all the time--no matter how bad a "look" it is for Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (JThEY)
228
Wolfus better batten down the hatches when he recovers from surgery. Ventusky has some nasty tropical weather headed his way in a couple of days.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QB+5g)
229
just got back from dentist appt., and I'm all ready to jump into Art Thread. And this is what I get?
feh
feh
Posted by: Otto Pen at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (sJHOI)
230
I believe there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QzINz)
231
The Tate has JMW Turner paintings. If I ever were to go there, it would be to see those, not to look at a toilet that is much dirtier than the one in my bathroom.
Not art. Not even interesting. Needs Comet.
Not art. Not even interesting. Needs Comet.
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (n2swS)
Posted by: Pipe This!! at July 14, 2025 10:42 AM (G5+As)
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I believe there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QzINz)
I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QzINz)
I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)
234
Not my favorite, but still a great song.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (i24o9)
Indeed. I make it a point to play this early and often every July 14.
If Doof isn’t posting this I will be quite disappointed.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (i24o9)
Indeed. I make it a point to play this early and often every July 14.
If Doof isn’t posting this I will be quite disappointed.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 10:42 AM (Pce4l)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:42 AM (L/fGl)
236
Mao approves of this “art”.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 10:43 AM (Pce4l)
237
I'm guessing Sarah doesn't occupy one of the favorable quadrants on the hot/crazy matrix.
Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at July 14, 2025 10:43 AM (hjUY3)
238
just got back from dentist appt., and I'm all ready to jump into Art Thread. And this is what I get?
feh
Posted by: Otto Pen
Don't chip a tooth on the throne.
feh
Posted by: Otto Pen
Don't chip a tooth on the throne.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:45 AM (+bLMA)
239
The Tate has JMW Turner paintings. If I ever were to go there, it would be to see those, not to look at a toilet that is much dirtier than the one in my bathroom.
Not art. Not even interesting. Needs Comet.
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (n2swS)
Houston Museum has my favorite Turner. Its apparently before his scratchy plexiglass period. Very nice.
Not art. Not even interesting. Needs Comet.
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (n2swS)
Houston Museum has my favorite Turner. Its apparently before his scratchy plexiglass period. Very nice.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:45 AM (VofaG)
240
I believe there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QzINz)
I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.
Posted by: Sponge
Wasn't it the Europeans who shit seven times a day as normal?
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QzINz)
I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.
Posted by: Sponge
Wasn't it the Europeans who shit seven times a day as normal?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (+bLMA)
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Not art. Not even interesting. Needs Comet.
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (n2swS)
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Mr. Clean. Stronger than dirt.
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (n2swS)
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Mr. Clean. Stronger than dirt.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (W3T6M)
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Anyway, good morning! Everyone has gotten breakfast here, I have walked the doge and am headed to the doctor’s for a check on my low blood sugar. Woohoo.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (QzINz)
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227 I see today's "art" is a live look in at CNN.
BTW, I know some of you are passionate about the Epstein deal, and you are right--child predators deserve worse than death.
But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
Egging this on for a fight.
And if you want to say, but maybe this time they are dealing honestly and fairly, go ahead.
But if it's Trump vs. CNN, it's 100% Trump all the time--no matter how bad a "look" it is for Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Pepperidge Farms remembers a number of 'sex scandals'---Cong. Foley and Kolbe preying on pages, before them Gerry Studds, Daniel Crane, etc. etc. preying on pages. The whole Boys Town child sex scandal in the 80's and early 90's, Craig Spence who was intertwined with the Reagan and Bush White Houses and led people on night time WH tours.
Then you have the Russia Russia fake shit, a guy being put in jail for fake reasons due to the Obama admin trying to deflect Benghazi questions. The curious power of arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, the Vegas mass murder, Burisma and Ukraine, the assassinations of JFK, MLK, RFK
BTW, I know some of you are passionate about the Epstein deal, and you are right--child predators deserve worse than death.
But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
Egging this on for a fight.
And if you want to say, but maybe this time they are dealing honestly and fairly, go ahead.
But if it's Trump vs. CNN, it's 100% Trump all the time--no matter how bad a "look" it is for Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Pepperidge Farms remembers a number of 'sex scandals'---Cong. Foley and Kolbe preying on pages, before them Gerry Studds, Daniel Crane, etc. etc. preying on pages. The whole Boys Town child sex scandal in the 80's and early 90's, Craig Spence who was intertwined with the Reagan and Bush White Houses and led people on night time WH tours.
Then you have the Russia Russia fake shit, a guy being put in jail for fake reasons due to the Obama admin trying to deflect Benghazi questions. The curious power of arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, the Vegas mass murder, Burisma and Ukraine, the assassinations of JFK, MLK, RFK
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:48 AM (L/fGl)
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So that's where Hermes' bag got to!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:49 AM (6aG9P)
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But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
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Right wing media has been leading this charge.
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Right wing media has been leading this charge.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (ImXfC)
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Right wing media has been leading this charge.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (ImXfC)
I have to agree....
Right wing media has been leading this charge.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (ImXfC)
I have to agree....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (VE6XX)
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A card-playing wag known as Krouse
With a penchant to grumble and grouse
At the casino down the road
When the toilets overflowed
Said "A flush always beats a full house!"
A card-playing wag known as Krouse
With a penchant to grumble and grouse
At the casino down the road
When the toilets overflowed
Said "A flush always beats a full house!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (poXs5)
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Right wing media has been leading this charge.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (ImXfC)
Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (ImXfC)
Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)
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Gee, who knew that all those nasty frat bathrooms in college were bastions of high art?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Work beckons.
I'm swamped for the next few weeks, so I'll be scarce for a while.
Be well, Horde.........
I'm swamped for the next few weeks, so I'll be scarce for a while.
Be well, Horde.........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (Zz0t1)
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A card-playing wag known as Krouse
With a penchant to grumble and grouse
At the casino down the road
When the toilets overflowed
Said "A flush always beats a full house!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (poXs5)
LOL.. One of your best
With a penchant to grumble and grouse
At the casino down the road
When the toilets overflowed
Said "A flush always beats a full house!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (poXs5)
LOL.. One of your best
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (L/fGl)
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Didn’t Freud have something to say about people stuck in the poop stage
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (QJ2Hs)
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I had a John Cleese moment in the Tate London once. Bending over to look at the sig on a painting, I sensed a head close by. Someone else examining the signature.
That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM
John Cleese had a cameo in a Dr. Who episode. The TARDIS materializes in the Louvre, and he and a woman were pretentiously critiquing it as modern art. Then the Doctor ran in, the TARDIS dematerialized, and they were even ore impressed by the "art". Nice little moment of satire there.
That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM
John Cleese had a cameo in a Dr. Who episode. The TARDIS materializes in the Louvre, and he and a woman were pretentiously critiquing it as modern art. Then the Doctor ran in, the TARDIS dematerialized, and they were even ore impressed by the "art". Nice little moment of satire there.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 10:53 AM (dPfyF)
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Good heavens! Well, happy Monday there, but it's not art here.
Can you imagine? Sarah Lucas is a well known artist - on YouTube; has a Wikipedia page, and agents in NY, London and Berlin.
She's 62 years old & "part of the generation of Young British Artists who emerged in 1988," who brashly and tenderly explores "what makes us human."
No. But thanks for the art lesson.
Can you imagine? Sarah Lucas is a well known artist - on YouTube; has a Wikipedia page, and agents in NY, London and Berlin.
She's 62 years old & "part of the generation of Young British Artists who emerged in 1988," who brashly and tenderly explores "what makes us human."
No. But thanks for the art lesson.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 10:53 AM (NFX2v)
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Sarah should probably expand her horizons past the bathroom.
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Psychological infants gotta infantilize ...
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Psychological infants gotta infantilize ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 14, 2025 10:53 AM (RoUkY)
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254 Didn’t Freud have something to say about people stuck in the poop stage
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (QJ2Hs)
Probably.
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (QJ2Hs)
Probably.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:54 AM (lPvx2)
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 10:54 AM (tubbA)
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I have walked the doge and am headed to the doctor’s for a check on my low blood sugar. Woohoo.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM
And how are Elon and company this morning?
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM
And how are Elon and company this morning?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 10:55 AM (dPfyF)
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I believe there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting.
Posted by: Piper
+++++++++++++
I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.
Posted by: Sponge
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Child's play
ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code F98.1
Psychogenic encopresis
Posted by: Piper
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I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.
Posted by: Sponge
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Child's play
ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code F98.1
Psychogenic encopresis
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:57 AM (poXs5)
Posted by: Hillary! at July 14, 2025 10:57 AM (Dv3i1)
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EXACTLY!!! This is the environment ICE prisoners in Alligator Alcatraz are being forced to shave in.
-Debbie Was a man Schultz
-Debbie Was a man Schultz
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 10:58 AM (uEWUd)
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And there is a number of spy and mole stories that were never resolved.
Simply put, most of what our elite get up to is vile decadence when they are not hoovering up other people's money, buying favors from pols, and seeking to misuse power. "Put not your trust in princes", indeed.
So you get into the rather nasty business as president where US intel agencies pal around with foreign ones to all get around spying on their own politicians. They simply outsource the job to other countries intel. PDT is also dealing with the despicable creatures in the Obama, Clinton, and Biden junta with the power to run amuck creating all kinds of fake and gay shit for their evil power games.
During the ensuing years after the heyday of Ghislaine and Epstein, we are left with documents of dubious quality, evidence that has gone missing or been tampered with over the years, and a persistent DoJ and IC internal corruption to a degree that no sane person would believe that Wray, Garland, Monaco, federal prosecutors, FBI agents, and our intel agencies with their foreign friends like MI-6 have not poisoned the evidence stream to the extent any cases would be non-prosecutable.
Simply put, most of what our elite get up to is vile decadence when they are not hoovering up other people's money, buying favors from pols, and seeking to misuse power. "Put not your trust in princes", indeed.
So you get into the rather nasty business as president where US intel agencies pal around with foreign ones to all get around spying on their own politicians. They simply outsource the job to other countries intel. PDT is also dealing with the despicable creatures in the Obama, Clinton, and Biden junta with the power to run amuck creating all kinds of fake and gay shit for their evil power games.
During the ensuing years after the heyday of Ghislaine and Epstein, we are left with documents of dubious quality, evidence that has gone missing or been tampered with over the years, and a persistent DoJ and IC internal corruption to a degree that no sane person would believe that Wray, Garland, Monaco, federal prosecutors, FBI agents, and our intel agencies with their foreign friends like MI-6 have not poisoned the evidence stream to the extent any cases would be non-prosecutable.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 10:59 AM (ctrM5)
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122 Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
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Have you seen the Molly Pitcher rest stop on the Jersey Turnpike?
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Have you seen the Molly Pitcher rest stop on the Jersey Turnpike?
Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (ikKGb)
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There is a British show called Landscape Artist of the Year. Its a competition show where each episode 6 or so painters compete to paint a landscape of a selected location. It is then judged by 4 'experts'. 90% of the time they choose the last one I would choose.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (VofaG)
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And how are Elon and company this morning?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 10:55 AM (dPfyF)
Elon is bored, based on his recent posts on X, specifically about Austin. I think his mom may need to intervene- seems she is about the only one he listens to. 😃
And how are Elon and company this morning?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 10:55 AM (dPfyF)
Elon is bored, based on his recent posts on X, specifically about Austin. I think his mom may need to intervene- seems she is about the only one he listens to. 😃
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (QzINz)
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This is not 'art'. It's fraud.
Gee, who knew that all those nasty frat bathrooms in college were bastions of high art?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (iFTx/)
When I attended Sonoma State, all of the bathroom stall walls in the Art Dept. building were wrapped in white butcher paper and folks were encouraged to draw or write on them. After a while, they'd remove the paper, hang it in the halls, and put up fresh. It being the Art dept. the grafitti was somewhat more elevated above the 'Here I sit, broken-hearted' level and typical filthy drawings, but not by much. The practice did keep the stall walls from being scratched up and permanently defaced, so there was that.
Gee, who knew that all those nasty frat bathrooms in college were bastions of high art?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (iFTx/)
When I attended Sonoma State, all of the bathroom stall walls in the Art Dept. building were wrapped in white butcher paper and folks were encouraged to draw or write on them. After a while, they'd remove the paper, hang it in the halls, and put up fresh. It being the Art dept. the grafitti was somewhat more elevated above the 'Here I sit, broken-hearted' level and typical filthy drawings, but not by much. The practice did keep the stall walls from being scratched up and permanently defaced, so there was that.
Posted by: tankascribe at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (NtoJk)
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Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)
Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)
Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)
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Kinda reminds me of the recurring dream I have where I'm in a public place and really have to poop, but every toilet I can find is either unspeakably nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulg
Didja' have the one where you find coins on the ground in succession? Or the one where you show up to a college final exam without knowing what the class was?
Yeah. That's everyone.
Posted by: Bulg
Didja' have the one where you find coins on the ground in succession? Or the one where you show up to a college final exam without knowing what the class was?
Yeah. That's everyone.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (mlg/3)
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4) Epstein got the red carpet treatment when visiting Israel.
5) Epstein bankrolled major investments in Israeli tech.
(Evidence below)
But fine, if Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence or any other intel service - which is theoretically possible - why can't Pam Bondi, CIA and FBI say that?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 14, 2025 10:19 AM (TGPs7)
You know, if Epstein were a Mossad asset, giving him the red carpet treatment on his visits to Israel would certainly deflect attention to that rumor, wouldn't it?
5) Epstein bankrolled major investments in Israeli tech.
(Evidence below)
But fine, if Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence or any other intel service - which is theoretically possible - why can't Pam Bondi, CIA and FBI say that?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 14, 2025 10:19 AM (TGPs7)
You know, if Epstein were a Mossad asset, giving him the red carpet treatment on his visits to Israel would certainly deflect attention to that rumor, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (gRLf5)
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Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)
Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)
Those are pundits not a supposed news site.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)
Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)
Those are pundits not a supposed news site.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)
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"Throughout her work, everyday objects are playfully transformed to expose the mischievous, destructive and vulnerable parts of life."
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Nice way to say this is stupid, useless garbage appealing to no one.
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Nice way to say this is stupid, useless garbage appealing to no one.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (qBdHI)
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Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)
Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)
Those are pundits not a supposed news site.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)
To be clear I agree they are pushing it and commented days ago about the Right again shooting itself in the foot when we have the most momentum we have ever had for change.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)
Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)
Those are pundits not a supposed news site.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)
To be clear I agree they are pushing it and commented days ago about the Right again shooting itself in the foot when we have the most momentum we have ever had for change.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (VofaG)
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Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)
Those are pundits not a supposed news site.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)
I said media not news site.
Point is it’s the right that’s screaming about this. And rightfully so (no pun intended). It’s a bullshit coverup. And it’s insulting that they think we’re this stupid.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)
Those are pundits not a supposed news site.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)
I said media not news site.
Point is it’s the right that’s screaming about this. And rightfully so (no pun intended). It’s a bullshit coverup. And it’s insulting that they think we’re this stupid.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (ImXfC)
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That looks like quite the painful way to die. To put it in terms close to approaching colloquial "New Jersey"-ese: "Hey! Sarah! I got yer nuts right heeeeeeeere ... !"
Posted by: Dr_No at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (ayRl+)
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Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (ImXfC)
we were comparing CNN but you knew that. You're part of the problem I'm referring to.
we were comparing CNN but you knew that. You're part of the problem I'm referring to.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (VofaG)
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Read someday, if you haven't, how Whitey Bulger was an informant for the FBI for decades and the FBI and local prosecutors, including a guy named Robert Mueller kept three innocent men in jail for a crime that Whitey and his crew committed.
Then there is the DoJ, Intel Community, and a host of people like AG Ed Meese, Billy Bob Barr, FBI chief Louie Freeh, and so on that were involved in the Inslaw scandal.
There is the astonishing lethal effects that we commonly joke about if you are around the Clintons and their web of corruption.
Then Congress has a secret slush fund to pay off sexual predator victims, they engage in inside trading, sell off their votes and influence to big donors, and use their powers to benefit the club, not the people.
Simply put, it is a really big club of awful people that are embedded in this country's (and most others) ruling class and most of what we see is probably about ten percent of what is going on.
Then there is the DoJ, Intel Community, and a host of people like AG Ed Meese, Billy Bob Barr, FBI chief Louie Freeh, and so on that were involved in the Inslaw scandal.
There is the astonishing lethal effects that we commonly joke about if you are around the Clintons and their web of corruption.
Then Congress has a secret slush fund to pay off sexual predator victims, they engage in inside trading, sell off their votes and influence to big donors, and use their powers to benefit the club, not the people.
Simply put, it is a really big club of awful people that are embedded in this country's (and most others) ruling class and most of what we see is probably about ten percent of what is going on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (ctrM5)
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But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
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Right wing media has been leading this charge.
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And what drives the conversation on the right-wing media?
They talk about the same things "everybody" else is talking about.
And if CNNN/MSNBC/et al. are pushing a story, it's going to be a story on right-wing media.
I'm asking, shouldn't we be very, very cautious of being on the same "side" of a story as CNN?
That Trump "didn't deliver" on his promise?
Or, as they put it, giving a "platform" to an issue that only hurts Trump?
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Right wing media has been leading this charge.
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And what drives the conversation on the right-wing media?
They talk about the same things "everybody" else is talking about.
And if CNNN/MSNBC/et al. are pushing a story, it's going to be a story on right-wing media.
I'm asking, shouldn't we be very, very cautious of being on the same "side" of a story as CNN?
That Trump "didn't deliver" on his promise?
Or, as they put it, giving a "platform" to an issue that only hurts Trump?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (JThEY)
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Megyn Kelly and Chelsea Clinton in a cat fight on X is amusing.
Rrrrrrrrrrw!
Good stuff from Kelly ripping on the Clintons.
Rrrrrrrrrrw!
Good stuff from Kelly ripping on the Clintons.
Posted by: one hour sober at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Y1sOo)
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Didn’t Freud have something to say about people stuck in the poop stage
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (QJ2Hs)
Precursor to homosexuality.
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (QJ2Hs)
Precursor to homosexuality.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (g8Ew8)
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During the ensuing years after the heyday of Ghislaine and Epstein, we are left with documents of dubious quality, evidence that has gone missing or been tampered with over the years, and a persistent DoJ and IC internal corruption to a degree that no sane person would believe that Wray, Garland, Monaco, federal prosecutors, FBI agents, and our intel agencies with their foreign friends like MI-6 have not poisoned the evidence stream to the extent any cases would be non-prosecutable.
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Exactly right.
There will be little to no Earthly justice for a lot of those involved.
That doesn't mean let it go.
But it also doesn't mean kneecap Trump over it.
Capone went to jail over tax evaision.
Destroying the power of the elite is more painful to them than the scandal.
See also the Diddy prosecution: They had him dead to rights on all of the charges. And they jury is going to let him skate on almost all of them.
Do you see a different outcome when the defendant has billions and politicians in his pocket?
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Exactly right.
There will be little to no Earthly justice for a lot of those involved.
That doesn't mean let it go.
But it also doesn't mean kneecap Trump over it.
Capone went to jail over tax evaision.
Destroying the power of the elite is more painful to them than the scandal.
See also the Diddy prosecution: They had him dead to rights on all of the charges. And they jury is going to let him skate on almost all of them.
Do you see a different outcome when the defendant has billions and politicians in his pocket?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:15 AM (JThEY)
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I'm asking, shouldn't we be very, very cautious of being on the same "side" of a story as CNN?
That Trump "didn't deliver" on his promise?
Or, as they put it, giving a "platform" to an issue that only hurts Trump?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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People never ask themselves about the media (and the conservative media is as poisoned by being owned by oligarchs as well) what is the purpose they are trying to achieve with a story.
Part of it is clicks--sex, alleged coverups, and murders among the elite are always good for clicks.
A second part of it is to drive the conversation of elites and commoners like sheep into corrals.
Some are trying to use Epstein and Co as a bludgeon against Jews and Israel. Some are trying to use it to attack the Trump policies that are showing immediate success in economics, etc. Some are those that get captured by a narrative arc and cannot let it go (the whole Karen Read saga for example). Some hunt for victims they can champion (while conveniently ignoring massive crimes committed by human traffickers from other lands), and some are engaged in a cynical political effort to derail PDT for personal and political reasons.
That Trump "didn't deliver" on his promise?
Or, as they put it, giving a "platform" to an issue that only hurts Trump?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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People never ask themselves about the media (and the conservative media is as poisoned by being owned by oligarchs as well) what is the purpose they are trying to achieve with a story.
Part of it is clicks--sex, alleged coverups, and murders among the elite are always good for clicks.
A second part of it is to drive the conversation of elites and commoners like sheep into corrals.
Some are trying to use Epstein and Co as a bludgeon against Jews and Israel. Some are trying to use it to attack the Trump policies that are showing immediate success in economics, etc. Some are those that get captured by a narrative arc and cannot let it go (the whole Karen Read saga for example). Some hunt for victims they can champion (while conveniently ignoring massive crimes committed by human traffickers from other lands), and some are engaged in a cynical political effort to derail PDT for personal and political reasons.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:17 AM (ctrM5)
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See also the Diddy prosecution: They had him dead to rights on all of the charges. And they jury is going to let him skate on almost all of them.
Do you see a different outcome when the defendant has billions and politicians in his pocket?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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And James Comey's daughter as one of his prosecutors.
More realistically, I have read as much of the documents released as I could about Epstein/Ghislaine. They are out there from the civil lawsuit filed against Prince Andrew, the original criminal complaint evidence including the investigating cop's report, and so on.
We know a lot about his and Ghislaine's methods in 'recruiting' staff. Some were over 18, some were less than 18 (seem to recall that one was 15) but the girls that gave depositions or testimony focused on their lives more than clients. Giuffre gave the longest deposition naming names, etc. and some of these facts were later found to be distorted or even fabricated. Superlawyer David Boies and his partners scoured up some of the Epstein girls as plaintiffs in various lawsuits which vanished over time as the cases were either dropped or quietly settled.
What we do not know is why.
Do you see a different outcome when the defendant has billions and politicians in his pocket?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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And James Comey's daughter as one of his prosecutors.
More realistically, I have read as much of the documents released as I could about Epstein/Ghislaine. They are out there from the civil lawsuit filed against Prince Andrew, the original criminal complaint evidence including the investigating cop's report, and so on.
We know a lot about his and Ghislaine's methods in 'recruiting' staff. Some were over 18, some were less than 18 (seem to recall that one was 15) but the girls that gave depositions or testimony focused on their lives more than clients. Giuffre gave the longest deposition naming names, etc. and some of these facts were later found to be distorted or even fabricated. Superlawyer David Boies and his partners scoured up some of the Epstein girls as plaintiffs in various lawsuits which vanished over time as the cases were either dropped or quietly settled.
What we do not know is why.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (ctrM5)
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So the terlet hobo scored an art show in? That's a bit surprising
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (ujkbA)
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Picture reminded me of an incident i vaguely remember from when i was young - not yet in kindergarten. Parents were not rich (8 kids will do that to you) but mom was a big fan of Better Homes & Garden magazine - so occasionally on a weekend dad would load us all up in the station wagon to visit some open houses - for mom's sake. No real intent to buy - just a free activity mom would love.
Most of us kids would stay in the car (with comics and coloring books to keep us busy) and the parental units would do the tour with one or two of us to stretch their legs. One time I was such a kid and wandered off - saw a toilet and did my business (#2). It was a new build - so the water hadn't been turned on yet. Parents asked where I'd been - I told them. We left quickly before the realtor could know it was us.
Hopefully some 4 year old having to go will see this "exhibit" and make it interactive.
Most of us kids would stay in the car (with comics and coloring books to keep us busy) and the parental units would do the tour with one or two of us to stretch their legs. One time I was such a kid and wandered off - saw a toilet and did my business (#2). It was a new build - so the water hadn't been turned on yet. Parents asked where I'd been - I told them. We left quickly before the realtor could know it was us.
Hopefully some 4 year old having to go will see this "exhibit" and make it interactive.
Posted by: BobM at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (y0oi5)
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JFK, MLK, RFK
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (ctrM5)
I shouted out, “Who killed the Kennedys?” When after all, it was you and me.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (ctrM5)
I shouted out, “Who killed the Kennedys?” When after all, it was you and me.
Posted by: Lucifer at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (Pce4l)
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The most modern art I go for is pop art...and I think the modernists have rejected it b/c it actually still has artistic merit...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (tOcjL)
I have a quick cutoff for what isn't art. If I could do it without practice, it definitely is not.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (tOcjL)
I have a quick cutoff for what isn't art. If I could do it without practice, it definitely is not.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (8avO+)
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There is a British show called Landscape Artist of the Year. Its a competition show where each episode 6 or so painters compete to paint a landscape of a selected location. It is then judged by 4 'experts'. 90% of the time they choose the last one I would choose.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (VofaG)
Its a critics disease. You see a zillion movies and the only ones that get a response are the ones that are crazy or different. If you lose touch with that sense of the normal, you've lost the audience.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (VofaG)
Its a critics disease. You see a zillion movies and the only ones that get a response are the ones that are crazy or different. If you lose touch with that sense of the normal, you've lost the audience.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (8avO+)
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I had a John Cleese moment in the Tate London once. Bending over to look at the sig on a painting, I sensed a head close by. Someone else examining the signature.
That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM (zeLd4)
Connie Booth.
That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM (zeLd4)
Connie Booth.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (8avO+)
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my bud sent me a photo of a bloody bowl in his hospital room, the procedure got a vessel- not uncommon. ennyhoo i axed him if it hurt. he replied, referring to the colonoscopist, (in flip wilson geraldine voice) "do it hurt!?! he don't write... he don't call...!"
Posted by: cmeat at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (GAyiy)
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"Lucas Electric is the spawn of Satan."
the prince of darkness.
the prince of darkness.
Posted by: cmeat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (GAyiy)
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I went through a phase of toilet photography. Drop a cigarette butt in the (flushed) toilet, and wait a bit until the nicotine made a curvy path to the bottom.
I know. I KNOW!
I know. I KNOW!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 14, 2025 04:04 PM (w6EFb)
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No Mornnig Report today?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2025 08:13 AM (omVj0)
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"Hamas Atrocities" posted on X: List things Muslims invented! Wrong answers only!
"Ib1netmon" replied:
Muslims invented the condom, using the intestines of a goat. Western societies improved it somewhat by removing the intestines from the goat first.
https://tinyurl.com/2j8fnv5t
"Ib1netmon" replied:
Muslims invented the condom, using the intestines of a goat. Western societies improved it somewhat by removing the intestines from the goat first.
https://tinyurl.com/2j8fnv5t
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 15, 2025 08:16 AM (paSBy)
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