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Posted by: Jordan61 at April 25, 2024 05:17 PM (DRSnL) 2
Throw them in jail without charge!
Deny them basic medical care! Maybe throw in a bit of torture and psyop tactics! Force them to confess to things they did not do! (Maybe hug a puppy or guide a Jewish grandma across the street.) Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 25, 2024 05:18 PM (W89wx) 3
What these college kids need is a nice wood shampoo
Posted by: Don Black at April 25, 2024 05:18 PM (/7KEl) 4
Hi Jordan!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 05:18 PM (PiwSw) 5
According to the Palestinian Health Authority, over one billion students were arrested.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (CHHv1) 6
Hi Jordan!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 05:18 PM (PiwSw) ===== Hi! Posted by: Jordan61 at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (DRSnL) 7
Abbott stands tall.
Posted by: huerfano at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (VGOMa) 8
We need Lawn Order
Posted by: Don Black at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (/7KEl) 9
Shouldn't these protesters be protesting the Arab countries who are not sending their armies in to defend Hamasistan?
Should they not harass Saudi Arabians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Emiratis, etc on campus? It seems a little bit... Inconsistent. Especially since the name countries are either at peace or making peace with israel. Posted by: Johnny at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (PmiZd) 10
That kind of $hit don't work here in Texas. The rest of the country needs to grow a set of balls and emulate us when dealing with these little punks.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 05:20 PM (QNSds) 11
I saw something at DM this morning; some of the protestors at NYU don't even know what they're protesting.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 25, 2024 05:20 PM (DRSnL) 12
UT usually lets just about any leftwing nutjob hang around the West Mall and demonstrate, so this group must have really pissed people off.
Posted by: brak at April 25, 2024 05:21 PM (AR07F) 13
It was the Fucking Around of times;
It was the Finding Out of times. Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 25, 2024 05:21 PM (OUMaO) Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:21 PM (W/lyH) 15
I don't think we control how much the left goes into authoritarianism, other than the ability to make them fear repercussions.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 25, 2024 05:22 PM (eYoxG) Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 25, 2024 05:22 PM (Q2P04) Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 05:22 PM (JeYYB) 18
>>>11 I saw something at DM this morning; some of the protestors at NYU don't even know what they're protesting.
What'd'ya got? Posted by: James Dean at April 25, 2024 05:23 PM (KRtlO) 19
Octopuses
Campuses Posted by: IrishEi at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (3ImbR) 20
Ooops, I had another Rogue Fart. Nurse mommy, change me. Posted by: Joe Biden at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (KRtlO) 21
Oh here it is: NYU anti-Israel demonstrator who says she's come down from Columbia to join activists admits she doesn't know what she's protesting about.
https://is.gd/dMwKiO Posted by: Jordan61 at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (DRSnL) 22
Just when I thought I couldn't take another news blurb of America's decay, this happens. HUZZAH!
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (JeYYB) 23
The more pro-terrorist skulls caved in, the better.
It is a shame this country tolerates this kind of terrorist love in public. Posted by: Jay in PA at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (i7Q7S) 24
I can't find that sketch on YouTube, but enjoy this barely-related one.
== oh yeah, I watched it recently. It is muy cómico ! Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (V13WU) 25
They arrested Student Protestors Protesting for Justice for Palestine?
Oh No! Anyway... the chick in that video has some nice cleavage. Thanks Ace! Clearly far more important that whatever the hippies are demanding. Posted by: SimoHayha at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (N/k1H) 26
giving motorists the right to run the f*ck over protesters if they're blocking the streets
Yeah baby! Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (Q2P04) 27
Sounds like the campus riots of the 60’s where I have read that non students came on to campus and got the heads full of mush all worked up to riot… along with government agents thrown intomthe mix…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (PCK5/) 28
10 That kind of $hit don't work here in Texas. The rest of the country needs to grow a set of balls and emulate us when dealing with these little punks.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 05:20 PM (QNSds) I know Austin is geographically in Texas, but culturally.... Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (PiwSw) 29
some answer found via google
The Latinate plural form campi is sometimes used, particularly with respect to colleges or universities; however, it is sometimes frowned upon. By contrast, the common plural form campuses is universally accepted. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 05:26 PM (KRtlO) Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 05:26 PM (mggQ3) 31
Pace, Ms. MacDonald, but the left is already using these tactics against us.
Posted by: butch at April 25, 2024 05:26 PM (4nut+) 32
@12 UT usually lets just about any leftwing nutjob hang around the West Mall and demonstrate, so this group must have really pissed people off.
-------- Even at USC (which shut down a protest yesterday, and is only allowing students and faculty on campus today) many non-Jewish students don't seem to like the protestors. There's an awareness that chanting about rivers and seas refers to genocide of the Israelis. Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 05:26 PM (JJ2jk) 33
Lady just called in to the Vince Coglianese show and said those kids whose 2020 high school graduation ceremonies were cancelled due to COVID, are now having their 2024 college graduation ceremonies cancelled due to idiot terrorist-sympathizer protests.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 25, 2024 05:27 PM (3ImbR) 34
What Butch said. Heather MacDonald does not know what time it is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 25, 2024 05:27 PM (xcxpd) 35
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — Fourteen people were arrested during a Thursday morning protest calling for a cease-fire in Gaza outside the Indiana Governor’s Residence on Meridian Street. Jewish Voice for Peace-Indiana, a group that says it’s made up of Indianapolis-based college students, staged the Seder IN Action rally around 7:30 a.m. at Tarkington Park to demand a cease-fire in Gaza and an end to U.S. aid to Israel. About half an hour later, the protesters had moved onto Meridian Street south of the park and were blocking intersections, forcing Indianapolis police to close the southbound lanes between 49th and 46th streets. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (63Dwl) 36
Is that Cory Booker's beard in that SNL skit?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (GPSZ3) 37
Is that Cory Booker's beard in that SNL skit?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (GPSZ3) ===== Yes. Posted by: Jordan61 at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (DRSnL) 38
I know Austin is geographically in Texas, but culturally....
right -- Austin has all the same leftwing crap as any other deep blue shithole; it. might as well be California Posted by: brak at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (AR07F) 39
36 Is that Cory Booker's beard in that SNL skit?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (GPSZ3) Yup. Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (PiwSw) 40
This is absolutely hilarious.
The beta male mayor of San Jose California runs into a black male constituent during an interview and "a random guy starts fighting the mayor's security." Note the mayor stands there and texts while these guys throw karate chops. Posted by: Jay in PA at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (i7Q7S) 41
Campodes.
Posted by: spindrift at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (OguvZ) 42
Punch a nazi, in action.
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (GLnHa) 43
That kind of $hit don't work here in Texas. The rest of the country needs to grow a set of balls and emulate us when dealing with these little punks.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 05:20 PM (QNSds) I know Austin is geographically in Texas, but culturally.... Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM And that is why the governor ordered the DPS in there to arrest all of those little $hits when it started. State University funded by taxpayers and he don't care that it is an extremely liberal city. We ain't gonna put up with that garbage. Cuff and stuff them. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (QNSds) 44
27 Sounds like the campus riots of the 60’s where I have read that non students came on to campus and got the heads full of mush all worked up to riot… along with government agents thrown intomthe mix…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (PCK5/) Trial of the Chicago 7 is calling... Posted by: Nova Local at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (exHjb) 45
I thought Austin would have erupted much earlier . I don’t consider it part of Texas. It’s more like a California embassy grounds.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:30 PM (MNhXM) 46
This is my idea as to what to do with antisemites (hamastanian supporting thugs) shutting down unis and causing havoc across the nation :
https://tinyurl.com/4tekwwkz Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:31 PM (V13WU) 47
Soro's son must be paying a shit ton organizing these protests across the country.
All the tents are the same in each protest. It's just like the BLM bullshit. Someone is buying in bulk. It's all very orchestrated. Who knew you could get so many dumbasses to support Hamas against Israel. Fuck these losers. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 05:32 PM (JeYYB) 48
very.organized.
Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:33 PM (V13WU) 49
In Pittsburgh, these people started camping out at Pitt.
They got them to move, but graduation is this Sunday and I can't see how these Nazi nuts will constrain themselves. Posted by: Jay in PA at April 25, 2024 05:33 PM (i7Q7S) Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 05:33 PM (KRtlO) 51
By contrast, the common plural form campuses is universally accepted.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 05:26 PM (KRtlO) It's not universal. I don't accept it. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 25, 2024 05:33 PM (nOjd9) 52
Fill up some Backpack Mounted Super Soaker tanks with 100% pure Capsaicin Oil, driven by an accompanying air tank, charged with enough compressed cubic volume to fully empty the Capsaicin tank.
Equip the front ranks of Riot Police with Super Soaker guns attached to said tanks, THE BEST GAS MASKS money can buy, and issue the FORWARD, MARCH! command. Spray everything and every one in front of them, who is in range. Including "journalists". Put it on Pay Per View, and all the Overtime would be covered in one. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at April 25, 2024 05:33 PM (e6UQI) 53
Ace es en espanol, si! No tengo pina.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 25, 2024 05:34 PM (w6EFb) 54
Note the mayor stands there and texts while these guys throw karate chops.
Posted by: Jay in PA at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (i7Q7S) Was everyone kung-fu fighting? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 25, 2024 05:34 PM (nOjd9) 55
Now that I've vented -- Heather MacDonald makes a great point that we must be careful not to endorse the left's own crackdown on dissenting views by deploying the same tactics. Otherwise the left will just go further in its own authoritarianism -- and right now, they control almost every single institution, private or governmental.
-------------- They already did it. What do you think J6 prosecutions and jailing are? We are way beyond any constrains on the government. Posted by: Decaf at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (unUNN) 56
Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at April 25, 2024 05:33 PM (e6UQI) ----- I like the way you think. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (JeYYB) 57
Don't know if anybody has brought up this editorial at the WSJ, yet:
--- The Media Say Crime Is Going Down. Don’t Believe It --- https://tinyl.io/Agay It's pretty good (if disheartening). Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (krQz2) 58
Ok the snl was actually funny. I'm shocked.
Posted by: Styx at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (Y6IkP) 59
Put it on Pay Per View, and all the Overtime would be covered in one.
Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX lol...not joking. I'd pay for it. Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (PwgSL) 60
Riots in Ireland as locals set fire to a new migrant center that was under construction.
It's high time the Irish woke up. Hoping, but not holding my breath. Posted by: IrishEi at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (3ImbR) 61
Crime's only "going down" because they aren't reporting it.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 25, 2024 05:36 PM (w6EFb) 62
USC has apparently cancelled its graduation ceremony. They had revoked a Hamas sympathizers permission to speak (she wasn't val- or salutorian ) and caught a bunch of flack. So screw everyone, it's cancelled
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 05:36 PM (aX7Uj) 63
lol...not joking. I'd pay for it.
Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (PwgSL) Reminds me of that "wants more government" meme. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 25, 2024 05:36 PM (w6EFb) 64
Pace, Ms. MacDonald, but the left is already using these tactics against us.
Posted by: butch at April 25, 2024 05:26 PM (4nut+) They are free to gather in a public park and bloviate, but the moment the block traffic, or harass innocent passers-by, kill them dead, and throw their bodies into the street, and do burnouts on their guts. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (8zz6B) 65
@58 that snl skit is probably 15 y old..
Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (V13WU) 66
Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper BREAKING: Pro-Palestinian protesters have stormed the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) in New York - OMG! Will there be a boa shortage?!!! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (FVME7) 67
I'm worried about Islamaphobia and the blow back on the Muslim community.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (LkLld) 68
If someone feels froggy and jumps, DON'T have a repeat of Kent State. I do NOT want some even more dickless version of that insufferable Neil Young song by Billie Eilish or whoever, playing until I go to my grave.
If it comes to that, gun down hundreds of these braindead, privileged little hothouse flowers. Make sure nobody ever wants to say another word about that day, let alone write up some faggoty song like that. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (0FoWg) 69
Parents have lost control of their kids.
They should have the talk that if you protest you will personally be expelled from school by your mother and father and not only will we not pay for their college, but they can start paying for their own cell phone too. Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 05:38 PM (NpAcC) 70
I know Austin is geographically in Texas, but culturally....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM And that is why the governor ordered the DPS in there to arrest all of those little $hits when it started. State University funded by taxpayers and he don't care that it is an extremely liberal city. We ain't gonna put up with that garbage. Cuff and stuff them. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (QNSds) *** Daughter of Diogenes #1 lives.in Austin. She says Yeah, they fot.their weird vibe.going, but every time they get out of hand, the real locals step in and put an end to it. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:38 PM (W/lyH) 71
Trade school for appliance repair /install, car mechanic, and welder looking better and better.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 25, 2024 05:38 PM (u82oZ) 72
I'm worried about Islamaphobia and the blow back on the Muslim community.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (LkLld) I've been worried about blowback on the Muslim community since 9/11. Always on guard. Could happen any minute. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 25, 2024 05:39 PM (w6EFb) 73
Think I saw a video where some of the UT protestors were "riding the lightning". Didn't look like Texas DPS was going to mess around too much with their antics.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 05:39 PM (N39Ws) 74
I thought Austin would have erupted much earlier . I don’t consider it part of Texas. It’s more like a California embassy grounds.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:30 PM (MNhXM) Their time would be better spent blockading I-35 between Austin and Round Rock. It would be a short time, but quite eventful. Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 05:39 PM (rj6Yv) 75
BREAKING: Pro-Palestinian protesters have stormed the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) in New York
== umm, why ??? Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:39 PM (V13WU) 76
I don't think we control how much the left goes into authoritarianism, other than the ability to make them fear repercussions.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 25, 2024 05:22 PM (eYoxG) Leftists always are authoritarian. Even the hippies were 99 percent hippie in the exact way as the others. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:40 PM (eoQWY) 77
I know Austin is geographically in Texas, but culturally....
----- It was TX State Troopers and not Austin city cops. The video/stills I saw anyway. Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 05:40 PM (vtyCZ) 78
Here is the SNL clip but somebody decided to make it better and ruined it.
https://tinyurl.com/4v2jkmrt Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (LkLld) 79
Even the hippies were 99 percent hippie in the exact way as the others.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:40 PM (eoQWY) We're all unique! Posted by: hippies at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (w6EFb) 80
Now that I've vented -- Heather MacDonald makes a great point that we must be careful not to endorse the left's own crackdown on dissenting views by deploying the same tactics. Otherwise the left will just go further in its own authoritarianism -- and right now, they control almost every single institution, private or governmental.
--- But it is the oblivious character of the left that they will charge that you are shutting down their speech if you arrest them for rioting and threatening Jews. Just like if a school, funded by the State, which used to be selections be put into the library receives word from the State, that they are not to place certain graphic books on the shelf, the left calls it "book burning". There are a lot of vanity press authors who would like some space on those shelves, but the State or the school has no obligation to give them space. So selecting curriculum is now called "banning" when the left needs it. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (krQz2) 81
BREAKING: Pro-Palestinian protesters have stormed the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) in New York
== umm, why ??? Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:39 PM (V13WU) The entire Ladies' Ready To Wear industry has been shamefully silent on the need for Israel to get its hands off Gaza. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (nOjd9) 82
Heather MacDonald makes a great point that we must be careful not to endorse the left's own crackdown on dissenting views by deploying the same tactics. Otherwise the left will just go further in its own authoritarianism -- and right now, they control almost every single institution, private or governmental.
------ Oh, ferpetessakes. I've been hearing this my whole life. "If we fight back using Tactic X after the Left has used it for many years with no remorse, then they might keep on using Tactic X with no remorse!" FTS. This is just ridiculous at this point. *rolls eyes* Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (0FoWg) 83
>>> Fill up some Backpack Mounted Super Soaker tanks with 100% pure Capsaicin Oil, driven by an accompanying air tank, charged with enough compressed cubic volume to fully empty the Capsaicin tank.
... Posted by: Jim at April 25, 2024 05:33 PM (e6UQI) So Jin-Roh, but thai hot Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 05:42 PM (Y6IkP) 84
Georgia State Troopers moved in on Emory University's Gaza Solidarity Camp with rubber bullets, teargas, and zip ties today.
Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 05:43 PM (vFG9F) 85
Where are the flash bangs and concussion grenades? Even the tear gas rounds. They were good enough for the J6 protestors. Surely these people are worthy of them as well.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 05:43 PM (N39Ws) 86
So the yankee government sends shock troops to Texas to gen up some blood, any blood will do.
Posted by: Eromero at April 25, 2024 05:43 PM (o2ZRX) 87
62 USC has apparently cancelled its graduation ceremony. They had revoked a Hamas sympathizers permission to speak (she wasn't val- or salutorian ) and caught a bunch of flack. So screw everyone, it's cancelled
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 05:36 PM (aX7Uj) Another of The Great Moments of Institutional Cowardice by American Academia. This is No. 149,050,372,658. Posted by: Gref at April 25, 2024 05:43 PM (5fDan) 88
BREAKING: Pro-Palestinian protesters have stormed the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) in New York
- OMG! Will there be a boa shortage?!!! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (FVME7) --- I'll take Places That Can't Exist for $200, Alex. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:43 PM (krQz2) 89
Columbia U always had a terrible stench. Rashid Khalidi - a "Palestenian-American" was a bid deal there. Spread his poison for years and they let him. Of course he was Orama's favorite prof.
Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:44 PM (V13WU) 90
The storming of FIT in NYC shows a bunch of people storming a lobby with some security trying to bar the doors. A few of the stormers are Hasidic Jews, those of whom don't believe Israel should exist because the Messiah hasn't returned. I wonder if they realize that the Koran doesn't differentiate between Zionist and non- Zionist Jews, saying they are all descendants of apes and pigs
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 05:45 PM (aX7Uj) 91
In other education news, the grade schoolers were driven to the High School to watch the High School student play "Mama Mia."
One kindergartner said "Ugh. They was kissing." Her friend, another kindergartener girl, said :"That was not real kissing." I made no comment. Sometimes I feel like I am on the set of Art Linkletter's Kids Say the Darndest Things. Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 25, 2024 05:45 PM (u82oZ) 92
If someone feels froggy and jumps, DON'T have a repeat of Kent State. I do NOT want some even more dickless version of that insufferable Neil Young song by Billie Eilish or whoever, playing until I go to my grave.
If it comes to that, gun down hundreds of these braindead, privileged little hothouse flowers. Make sure nobody ever wants to say another word about that day, let alone write up some faggoty song like that. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (0FoWg) There were worse riots at several other Ohio schools that went down normally. Kent had some pretty green National Guard fellows whose leaders marched them about aimlessly, got them kinda trapped by a fencing line and when trying to extricate themselves some few fired when the crowd chasing them surged to them. I think a couple of the ones that died weren't even involved in the riot. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:45 PM (eoQWY) 93
Video captured multiple students being approached by officers as they 'sprayed tear gas' according to a witness, and fired rubber bullets at them, which can be heard ringing out on video.
Other clips showed cops pin protestors to the ground as they restrained their hands behind their backs. Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 05:45 PM (vFG9F) 94
So, national guard or DPS? Headline says one thing story the other thing. National guard and DPS are not the same organizations. Posted by: Paul's Perianal Pustules at April 25, 2024 05:45 PM (3MhCT) 95
I'm worried about Islamaphobia and the blow back on the Muslim community.
Posted by: JackStraw I'm worried there won't be any. They're telling you what they want to do. I'm afraid people aren't listening. Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2024 05:46 PM (Jxvt5) 96
Parents have lost control of their kids.
They should have the talk that if you protest you will personally be expelled from school by your mother and father and not only will we not pay for their college, but they can start paying for their own cell phone too. Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 05:38 PM (NpAcC) --- It's not known whether the parents of these kids ever knew they should have control over their kids. I've seen arguments in grocery stores between kids and parents migrate from talking to their parents as peers to kids scolding their parents over the years. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:46 PM (krQz2) 97
We can't worry about them using the power against us if we use it. They ALREADY use it against us.
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 05:46 PM (FQmDC) 98
I love the smell of ozone in the air. It smells like winning. Watching the protestor cry out like a bitch while the electricity crackles from the taser to their body is a bonus.
Posted by: Apocalypse Now 2024 at April 25, 2024 05:46 PM (N39Ws) 99
Georgia State Troopers moved in on Emory University's Gaza Solidarity Camp with rubber bullets, teargas, and zip ties today.
Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 05:43 PM (vFG9F) Protesters tried that sh*t at THE Ohio State University today, but the cops moved in, told the bodies involved to tear down their tents, and arrested three who gave them lip. Tents down. Three to the pokey. Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 05:47 PM (rj6Yv) 100
So, national guard or DPS? Headline says one thing story the other thing. National guard and DPS are not the same organizations.
Posted by: Paul's Perianal Pustules Needs to arm & drill the Texas State Guard. They can't be federalized and sent out of state by Bribem. Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2024 05:47 PM (Jxvt5) 101
Hey y'all. All I taste is pennies.
Posted by: Tasered Protestors at April 25, 2024 05:47 PM (N39Ws) 102
Marina Medvin @MarinaMedvin 8h
Susan Sarandon says October 7 atrocities and rapes are a myth. While some stories that emerged from social media may have come from untrustworthy sources, everything reported by Israeli media was substantiated. The rapes have certainly been proven real. https://tinyurl.com/m9tv38x4 16 seconds Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 05:48 PM (vtyCZ) 103
Even the hippies were 99 percent hippie in the exact way as the others.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:40 PM (eoQWY) We're all unique! Posted by: hippies My take on hippies mirrors that South Park episode where hippies invade the town for a music fest and Cartman starts a hippie extermination business. Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 05:48 PM (PwgSL) 104
"Hey y'all. All I taste is pennies.
Posted by: Tasered Protestors" At first I thought you said "penises". Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 05:48 PM (vFG9F) 105
Oh, ferpetessakes. I've been hearing this my whole life.
"If we fight back using Tactic X after the Left has used it for many years with no remorse, then they might keep on using Tactic X with no remorse!" FTS. This is just ridiculous at this point. *rolls eyes* Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (0FoWg) A riot isn't a "view" it is an action. Protests have rules, a location, security provided by the state and you say your bit and go home. Actions of destruction and blocking traffic are not protests, if you care that much go to jail and be a martyr. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:49 PM (eoQWY) 106
>>>BREAKING: Pro-Palestinian protesters have stormed the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) in New York
lol Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 05:49 PM (KRtlO) Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 05:49 PM (LkLld) 108
Are they looking for a Kent State moment?
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 05:50 PM (FQmDC) 109
Marina Medvin @MarinaMedvin 8h
Susan Sarandon says October 7 atrocities and rapes are a myth. While some stories that emerged from social media may have come from untrustworthy sources, everything reported by Israeli media was substantiated. The rapes have certainly been proven real. https://tinyurl.com/m9tv38x4 16 seconds Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 05:48 PM (vtyCZ) Believe all women (except Jewish women). Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 05:50 PM (BhMhR) 110
May Allah shit down all their throats.
Posted by: Montec at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (6On2Z) 111
Marina Medvin @MarinaMedvin 8h
Susan Sarandon says October 7 atrocities and rapes are a myth. While some stories that emerged from social media may have come from untrustworthy sources, everything reported by Israeli media was substantiated. The rapes have certainly been proven real. https://tinyurl.com/m9tv38x4 16 seconds Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 05:48 PM (vtyCZ) Israel took out the Gaza internet early explicitly to slow the spread of the rape and murder pron that was about to be spread all over. Anyone who pretends that it didn't happen is a special type of evil. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (eoQWY) 112
Heather MacDonald makes a great point that we must be careful not to endorse the left's own crackdown on dissenting views by deploying the same tactics. Otherwise the left will just go further in its own authoritarianism -- and right now, they control almost every single institution, private or governmental.
Actually, we shouldn't employ the same tactics. We must do much much worse. They started it and need to be educated on why their authoritianism and violence will not be tolerated. Take it to an extreme that they realize what a mistake they made starting it. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (N39Ws) 113
Hundreds of students at the University of Texas at Austin walked out of class in support of Palestine.
Palestine, Texas is a nice place. It could, I suppose, use another BBQ place or two, but I'm not sure why the UT folks have their panties in a wad about supporting them. If you're thinking of visiting Palestine, here's some deets to help you decide: https://www.visitpalestine.com/ Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (a3Q+t) 114
Good afternoon Horde.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (eQRY8) Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (u82oZ) Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (roH4R) 117
Oh, ferpetessakes. I've been hearing this my whole life.
"If we fight back using Tactic X after the Left has used it for many years with no remorse, then they might keep on using Tactic X with no remorse!" FTS. This is just ridiculous at this point. *rolls eyes* Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (0FoWg) -------------- This. You want to put it into Lawfare against Trump and other conservatives? Why the f*ck aren't Texas, Florida, and other R AGs hauling The Biden Crime Family and every other D in the Deep State and Congress and Governors into multiple courts on multiple bogus Trumped-Up charges and indictments -- and bankrupting them with multi-billion dollars judgments and fines? THAT'S The Shitcago Way ... Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (XVXfM) 118
Of course, Florida cops are protecting the protesters by arresting them, because DeSantis signed a law giving motorists the right to run the f*ck over protesters if they're blocking the streets two years ago.
Yeah, but he wimped out by prohibiting motorists from driving back and forth multiple times over protestors. Posted by: Paco at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (njExo) 119
BREAKING: Pro-Palestinian protesters have stormed the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) in New York
== umm, why ??? Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:39 PM (V13WU) *** They did it in order to spread their message, and for the shit they can steal. But mostly for the shit they can steal. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:52 PM (W/lyH) 120
>>> Heather MacDonald makes a great point that we must be careful not to endorse the left's own crackdown on dissenting views by deploying the same tactics. Otherwise the left will just go further in its own authoritarianism -- and right now, they control almost every single institution, private or governmental.
------------------------- Sounds very apologetic. I say horses and billy clubs. Posted by: Braenyard - today, people don't understand the putting of one's foot DOWN at April 25, 2024 05:52 PM (lCWOD) 121
Are they looking for a Kent State moment?
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 05:50 PM (FQmDC) Empress Alex T. Chick, first of her name, is arguing just that on the Twats. Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 05:52 PM (BhMhR) 122
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (N39Ws)
I’m totally for this. Queensberry rules can FOAD until we agree to the same rules again. Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 05:52 PM (eQRY8) 123
Steve McGuire @sfmcguire79 20h
Huge SCOOP by @abigailandwords for @NRO: Princeton students are planning an encampment. A recruiting document shows they know they’re breaking the rules but don’t expect serious consequences. They say they “have a trained security team, pro bono legal support, and ‘faculty members on our side to negotiate with administration.’” Much more in the article linked below! Update: Abigail Anthony @abigailandwords Apr 24 UPDATE: VP Calhoun sent an email to all undergrads warning of arrests. An organizer of the protest called this "a partial bluff" and confirmed plans to continue with the encampment. “‘Arrest’ is not the same as ‘pressing charges,’” the organizer wrote. nationalreview.com/news/prin… Here are two emails, one from the Princeton admin and then the student response https://tinyurl.com/ynw64z39 Nitter three X posts. Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 05:52 PM (vtyCZ) Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM (eQRY8) 125
Calling all bad bag-pipers. We need you to practice near a protest.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM (u82oZ) 126
Read that teachers were more aggressive than students - setting an example for students. The following example should be them losing their job.
Posted by: Braenyard - today, people don't understand the putting of one's foot DOWN at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM (lCWOD) 127
*put AN END TO Lawfare ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM (XVXfM) 128
Of course, Florida cops are protecting the protesters by arresting them, because DeSantis signed a law giving motorists the right to run the f*ck over protesters if they're blocking the streets two years ago.
Yeah, but he wimped out by prohibiting motorists from driving back and forth multiple times over protestors. Posted by: Paco at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (njExo) Look, lunch plans change all the time at a moment's notice. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:54 PM (eoQWY) 129
From the University of NH:
"The University is deeply committed to the safety of our campus community. UNH police regularly monitor all available sources for potential threats. Despite the geopolitical unrest of the last several months, we have not experienced increased reports of threats or harassment from community members. UNH is similarly committed to its role as a public university in protecting free speech on campus. We will continue to protect the Constitutionally guaranteed right of our students, faculty, and the public to share their views in accordance with the law and university policy. No one exercising their free speech rights on campus speaks on behalf of the University of New Hampshire. Nor does the university promote or encourage the speech of one individual or group over another. " ---------- Encampments will be set up by this weekend. Count on it. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 05:55 PM (N39Ws) 130
>>Are they looking for a Kent State moment?
To what end? Most of them are blaming Biden and callng him Genocide Joe. If they get their Kent State moment the blame will fall on those in power not Trump. Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 05:55 PM (LkLld) 131
They never seem to steal the steel toe work boots.
Posted by: Wonder why at April 25, 2024 05:55 PM (jAber) 132
Palestine, Texas is a nice place. It could, I suppose, use another BBQ place or two, but I'm not sure why the UT folks have their panties in a wad about supporting them.
If you're thinking of visiting Palestine, here's some deets to help you decide: https://www.visitpalestine.com/ Posted by: Duncanthrax Home of the Coffield Unit of the Department of Corrections. Went on a Life Flight to pick up a stabbing victim. Long assed helicopter ride. Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2024 05:56 PM (Jxvt5) 133
I wonder what the student to non- student ratio is among the protesters?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:56 PM (W/lyH) 134
They did it in order to spread their message, and for the shit they can steal. But mostly for the shit they can
steal. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:52 PM (W/lyH) I guess Louis Vuitton has too many off duty cops guarding entry and exits ?? Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:56 PM (V13WU) Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 05:56 PM (eQRY8) 136
Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 05:52 PM (BhMhR)
She post here anymore? Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM (eQRY I hear she pops in on occasion. She's slippery, that one. Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 05:57 PM (BhMhR) 137
Protesters tried that sh*t at THE Ohio State University today, but the cops moved in, told the bodies involved to tear down their tents, and arrested three who gave them lip. Tents down. Three to the pokey.
___ Columbus is going left wing whacko, DeWine is a full RINO in good standing, OSU is well in the mainstream of left wing foolishness. But OSU admin and the Gov knows better than to let things get out of hand. Which is way better than that school up North. O-H - I-O! Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2024 05:57 PM (g/1eZ) 138
Calling all bad bag-pipers. We need you to practice near a protest.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM (u82oZ) I approve of this message !! Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:57 PM (V13WU) 139
Are they looking for a Kent State moment?
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 05:50 PM (FQmDC) Empress Alex T. Chick, first of her name, is arguing just that on the Twats. Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 05:52 PM (BhMhR) Even the Kent State moment wasn't a Kent State moment. The leftists turned it into a mythology but most normal people were in the "well that's why you head back to the dorms when the troops with guns show up" Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:57 PM (eoQWY) 140
Calling all bad bag-pipers. We need you to practice near a protest.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM TBF, that could lead to someone being kilt. Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 25, 2024 05:57 PM (a3Q+t) 141
Matt Walsh, who has been an otherwise sensible person and friend of the blog, has been tweeting that this was an absolutely horrible thing for Abbott to do, and he is just completely off base here. Makes me question him completely.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2024 05:58 PM (i9ffA) Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 05:59 PM (eQRY8) Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 05:59 PM (yikga) 144
Read that teachers were more aggressive than students - setting an example for students. The following example should be them losing their job.
Posted by: Braenyard - today, people don't understand the putting of one's foot DOWN at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM (lCWOD) Imagine being such dweebs that you would LET your teachers be in on your protest/riot. Words fail me. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:59 PM (eoQWY) 145
Susan Sarandon says October 7 atrocities and rapes are a myth.
___ She's calling Hamas liars. This should be pointed out to her. Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2024 05:59 PM (g/1eZ) 146
Sounds like a train wreck; I'd best go investigate! And by investigate, I mean being the pivot man at the Friday night drum circle queerbang... Posted by: Peter Buttplug at April 25, 2024 05:59 PM (3MhCT) 147
Matt Walsh must be an old hippy, who thinks he is still fighting the man, man.
Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 05:59 PM (V13WU) 148
Parents have lost control of their kids.
They should have the talk that if you protest you will personally be expelled from school by your mother and father and not only will we not pay for their college, but they can start paying for their own cell phone too. Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 05:38 PM (NpAcC) If angry parents cut-off their college child's financial support, Daddy Fed Gov will be happy to help with loans. UniParty Fed Gov is well on its way to providing care for everyone from their Day of Escape from Abortion to their Day of Euthanasia due to Inability to Usefully Serve the State. Posted by: Gref at April 25, 2024 06:00 PM (5fDan) Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 06:00 PM (krQz2) 150
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2024 05:58 PM (i9ffA)
The guy did 15 dissertation on Bluey. Guy has been riding “What Is A Woman” fame for awhile. However, I did hear that Abbot shot out a tweet that was….interesting to say the least. Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 06:00 PM (eQRY8) 151
Matt Walsh, who has been an otherwise sensible person and friend of the blog, has been tweeting that this was an absolutely horrible thing for Abbott to do, and he is just completely off base here. Makes me question him completely.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2024 05:58 PM (i9ffA) Some of the stuff that group does is decent work from a culture war standpoint. When they get past that into punditry the limits of them start to show. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 06:01 PM (eoQWY) 152
No one exercising their free speech rights on campus speaks on behalf of the University of New Hampshire. Nor does the university promote or encourage the speech of one individual or group over another. "
---------- Encampments will be set up by this weekend. Count on it. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 05:55 PM (N39Ws) *** It'd be hilarious if once set up, say a thousand pro-Israeli tents popped up too, surrounding the pro-Gaza faction. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 06:01 PM (W/lyH) 153
113 Hundreds of students at the University of Texas at Austin walked out of class in support of Palestine.
Palestine, Texas is a nice place. It could, I suppose, use another BBQ place or two, but I'm not sure why the UT folks have their panties in a wad about supporting them. If you're thinking of visiting Palestine, here's some deets to help you decide: https://www.visitpalestine.com/ Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (a3Q+t As I recall, they have a nice cookie place too. Posted by: Eromero at April 25, 2024 06:01 PM (o2ZRX) 154
Makes me glad I work at a small STEM institution in a small town. We don't EVER have those folks show up.
We had a DEI conference this week and by all accounts is was both well-attended and orderly. It was sponsored by a couple of our major corporate partners. We had a faculty senate meeting this afternoon and everyone was bright and cheerful...the only contention was with the policies of our mothership from on high. If we DID have a protest of this sort, our chief of police would crack down HARD. He's tough but fair. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 25, 2024 06:02 PM (BpYfr) Posted by: IrishEi at April 25, 2024 06:02 PM (3ImbR) 156
7 Abbott stands tall.
I love Abbott puns. Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2024 05:51 PM (roH4R) No standing. Posted by: John Roberts at April 25, 2024 06:02 PM (nvKZ7) 157
Hey y'all. All I taste is pennies.
Posted by: Tasered Protestors at April 25, 2024 05:47 PM (N39Ws) I read "penises." My bad. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 25, 2024 06:02 PM (w6EFb) 158
It'd be hilarious if once set up, say a thousand pro-Israeli tents popped up too, surrounding the pro-Gaza faction.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 06:01 PM (W/lyH) Need some Egyptian protestors on one side building a wall to hold them in. And flood another side with salt water. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 06:03 PM (eoQWY) 159
Hamas stormed the Fashion Institute because they want Anna Wintour to change her opinion of wearing plaids with stripes and forbidding white shoes before Easter.
I think she will cave. It’s fabulous. Posted by: Czech Chick at April 25, 2024 06:03 PM (I6NNh) 160
@133 I wonder what the student to non- student ratio is among the protesters?
-------- Another relevant question is how many people who aren't involved with the school are participating. After shutting down protests yesterday, USC started checking for student IDs at the edge of campus today. Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 06:04 PM (JJ2jk) 161
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'Backpack Mounted Super Soaker tanks with 100% pure Capsaicin Oil' Ha. I like the way you think. Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2024 06:04 PM (roH4R) 162
To what end? Most of them are blaming Biden and callng him Genocide Joe. If they get their Kent State moment the blame will fall on those in power not Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 05:55 PM (LkLld) The purpose of the protests is irrelevant. They need a Kent State moment to make sure it's another summer of violent protests for an election year. If it were to happen at UT or University of Florida or FSU, it gets framed against the "The Right". That's all it'll take. Posted by: DaisyB at April 25, 2024 06:04 PM (AbL8c) 163
before I show myself out I must ask how your brainiacs are not aware of the enormous evidence that yahoo's, that is, Ben Gvir's gov't were not in on 10/7 from the beginning. How many simultaneous security failures occurred, how many hostages were killed by the idf -- and then this outrageous mass murder of 40k souls, mostly women and kids? And now we're arresting college kids and protesters. Israel is led by murderous Kahanists. They hate you gentiles by the way. Our greatest ally indeed. Wake up, morons.
Posted by: Pastor Feltcher at April 25, 2024 06:02 PM (3MpUo) Don't see how the failures of the Israelis to protect their people from them justifies the actions they took afterward. And jailing todays college student would be more educational than they get at those expensive schools. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 06:05 PM (eoQWY) 164
All the protesters that were arrested yesterday were let out of jail already today. And you know Austin's DA isn't gonna do anything about it. They did bring in some more troopers from San Antonio and Houston today. We were told that they would be Using our lunch spot today, so to find somewhere else to eat.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 25, 2024 06:05 PM (PZo5T) 165
Calling all bad bag-pipers. We need you to practice near a protest.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 25, 2024 05:53 PM TBF, that could lead to someone being kilt. Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 25, 2024 05:57 PM (a3Q+t) *** You know, it's not all protests. In some of those tents, they are spreading sporan. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 06:05 PM (W/lyH) 166
Columbus is going left wing whacko, DeWine is a full RINO in good standing, OSU is well in the mainstream of left wing foolishness. But OSU admin and the Gov knows better than to let things get out of hand. Which is way better than that school up North.
O-H - I-O! Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2024 05:57 PM (g/1eZ) I worked at the Ohio State student union for two years while taking courses as a full-time student. Great school. Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 06:05 PM (rj6Yv) 167
@158 - that is the best parody yet! sure beats that Brattleboro gal !
Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 06:05 PM (V13WU) 168
Carryover from last thread:
Don't want none? Don't start none. Doesn't get any simpler than that. Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2024 06:06 PM (Jxvt5) 169
The purpose of the protests is irrelevant. They need a Kent State moment to make sure it's another summer of violent protests for an election year. If it were to happen at UT or University of Florida or FSU, it gets framed against the "The Right". That's all it'll take.
Posted by: DaisyB at April 25, 2024 06:04 PM (AbL8c) Nixon won the election after Kent State. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 06:06 PM (eoQWY) 170
Posted by: Pastor Feltcher at April 25, 2024 06:02 PM (
---- College protestors are getting arrested?! Oh noes! I couldn't give a shit less if they fuckin' napalmed these kids. And that's not because of Oct. 7th, or the Current Year Issue. It's because I went to school with them, and know them. Light 'em up. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 06:06 PM (0FoWg) 171
However, I did hear that Abbot shot out a tweet that was….interesting to say the least.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 06:00 PM (eQRY This was Abbott's tweet: "Arrests being made right now & will continue until the crowd disperses. These protesters belong in jail. Antisemitism will not be tolerated in Texas. Period. Students joining in hate-filled, antisemitic protests at any public college or university in Texas should be expelled." I'd say at least 75% of Texas agrees with him very strongly on that. Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2024 06:07 PM (i9ffA) 172
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'It's high time the Irish woke up.' The government had better watch out. The Irish know how to be unmanageable when they decide to be. Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2024 06:07 PM (roH4R) Posted by: DaisyB at April 25, 2024 06:07 PM (AbL8c) 174
The government had better watch out. The Irish know how to be unmanageable when they decide to be.
== and then what ? Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 06:07 PM (V13WU) 175
>>The purpose of the protests is irrelevant. They need a Kent State moment to make sure it's another summer of violent protests for an election year. If it were to happen at UT or University of Florida or FSU, it gets framed against the "The Right". That's all it'll take.
Yea, I'm not so sure they will get their way this time. Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming Trump got stained by the Floyd BLM/antifa riots but he was president. Genocide Joe is President now and the attempt to blame all things on Trump is starting to lose some of its mojo. These "students" are blaming Biden for what is happening in Gaza not Trump. Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 06:08 PM (LkLld) 176
Fines, there needs to be fines. $10,000 fine along with each arrest.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 25, 2024 06:08 PM (LfcYE) 177
>>>BREAKING: Pro-Palestinian protesters have stormed the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) in New York
lol Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 05:49 PM (KRtlO) --------------------- Did they run out of those stupid scarves and wanted more without paying? Posted by: Decaf at April 25, 2024 06:08 PM (unUNN) 178
Fines, there needs to be fines. $10,000 fine along with each arrest.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 25, 2024 06:08 PM (LfcYE) Tickets ! Ticket the bastards ! Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 06:08 PM (V13WU) 179
Home of the Coffield Unit of the Department of Corrections. Went on a Life Flight to pick up a stabbing victim. Long assed helicopter ride.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2024 05:56 PM (Jxvt5) --------------- I'll bet you've got enough stories from your career to fill a book or 10. Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 06:09 PM (sIAzz) 180
hiya
Posted by: JT at April 25, 2024 06:09 PM (T4tVD) 181
It's only JackStraw and I that got the Ace reference?
I mean, I know why the sketch can't be found. Mexican game show where the FBI busts in and arrests them? Problematic. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 06:09 PM (yikga) Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2024 06:09 PM (roH4R) 183
Another relevant question is how many people who aren't involved with the school are participating.
After shutting down protests yesterday, USC started checking for student IDs at the edge of campus today. Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 06:04 PM (JJ2jk) Back in my College Days in the 80s when the "Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade" showed up to burn a flag in the early 80s, I noticed they all were pretty long in the tooth for a college group. The counter protest the next week or so had far far more people there. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 06:09 PM (eoQWY) 184
NY Post: Women are paying $500 to get salmon sperm injected into their vaginas to boost sex lives
https://tinyurl.com/d9h4cvch Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 06:09 PM (BhMhR) 185
Another relevant question is how many people who aren't involved with the school are participating.
== I estimate...80% or more ? Posted by: runner at April 25, 2024 06:10 PM (V13WU) 186
How about we ID these leftists, the ones assaulting the cops, and instead of arresting them at the scene, wait a few weeks and give them the zero dark thirty assault on their residence, the same way that the ATF did the guy who sold guns and gun shows.
Bash in the door, shoot them with a rifle, right in the face. All without announcing. Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 25, 2024 06:10 PM (KiBMU) 187
Carryover from last thread:
- Tangentially related. Film starlet of the '40s and '50s, Linda Christian, was known as the Anatomic Bomb. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 06:10 PM (FVME7) Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 06:11 PM (eQRY8) 189
Can we start a fundraiser to rent jets to send all of these protestors to the bosom of gaza? They need to be mugged by reality. Gays for gaza or whatever can be the first ones shoved in the tunnels.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 25, 2024 06:11 PM (I6U7D) 190
Carryover from last thread:
- Tangentially related. Film starlet of the '40s and '50s, Linda Christian, was known as the Anatomic Bomb. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 06:10 PM (FVME7) That was when even the hack Hollywood writers could turn a phrase. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 06:12 PM (eoQWY) 191
Should send the IDF after thrm
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 06:12 PM (fwDg9) Posted by: Kreskin at April 25, 2024 06:12 PM (9WPyc) Posted by: Dinsdale Piranha at April 25, 2024 06:13 PM (3MhCT) Tucker Carlson: Dropping Two Nukes to End WWII Was "Prima Facie Evil"Tucker Carlson continues his headlong rush to the far left. He also seems to call for denuclearization. Even better. He showed off his newly woke philosophy for Joe Rogan, who is now certainly more rightwing than Tucker Carlson.I love, by the way, that people on my side -- I'll just admit it, on the Right -- have spent the last 80 years defending dropping nuclear weapons on civilians. Like, are you joking? That's just, like, prima facie evil. If you can't -- 'Well, if we hadn't done that, then this, that, the other thing, that was actually a great savings' -- like, no. It's wrong to drop nuclear weapons on people, and if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil. Like, it's not a tough one, right? It's not a hard call for me. So, with that in mind, like, why would you want nuclear weapons? It's like just a mindless, childish sort of intellectual exercise to justify, like, 'Oh no, it's really good because someone else could get' -- how about, no? How about spending all of your effort to prevent this from happening?I've become less and less interested in what this conspiracy-minded wreck thinks. He's been honeydicked by Glenn Greenwald. A lot of people support Tucker Carlson for opposing the GOP Establishment. That's great. But you know who else opposes the GOP Establishment? The far left. And more and more of Tucker Carlson's positions are from the hard left. Nevermind his conspiratorial fascination with UFOs, which I thought was all a ratings stunt but no, he seems to really Believe. By the end of Tucker's "evolution," he'll be telling us that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has "some serious ideas, which should be taken seriously." I oppose the American Deep State. That means I now have to believe in... Vladimir Putin?!? On Tucker Carlson, and some others of the right, I'm reminded of G.K. Chesterton's aphorism: "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything." I feel like a lot of people -- and I include myself in this -- long believed in (this is embarrassing) American institutions like the FBI, CIA, judiciary, and even the corporate class. (Oh Lord...) Now we no longer believe in those things. But, as Chesterton observed, the end of belief in some things often does not result in skepticism for everything -- it often results in the former believer seeking to believe in anything else. And for some (understandably) disappointed former righties, it results in finding new beliefs in the core dogmas of the far left. People have a need to believe, for belief makes order of chaos, and often those who abandon beliefs fly quickly into the arms of a fresh belief system. The old beliefs may have been rejected, but the need to believe remains. Rather than waking up and deciding to no longer believe in stupid nonsense, some, like Tucker Carlson, are on a spiritual quest to find new stupid nonsense to believe in. Below, Tucker Carlson insists he has knowledge that the intelligence agencies are blackmailing congressmen -- but also says he can't say who's confessed to being blackmailed. I would find this more compelling if he didn't make this announcement in the same rant in which he decries the cover-up of "UAPs" -- Unidentified Aerial Pheonomenon, which is the new term for "UFOs" so you can avoid saying "UFOs."
And when someone hides something, I conclude they have reason to hide it. That is, when someone acts as if their beliefs are shameful, I believe that person is probably right about those beliefs being shameful. Tucker Carlson seems to have some reason to hide his new improved beliefs -- and I think he's got enough self-awareness to know that spreading antisemitic "Jews control everything" conspiracy theories is slightly shameful. I know, I know -- he's just asking questions. He doesn't have any suggested answers in mind. His mind is just a blank page. If he has evidence to support his new suspicions, then he should present it. Just repeatedly muttering about all the congressmen who tell him this in secret isn't cutting it. More: What is "Project Aqua"? The more you know. There is often a very short step between "prophet" and "maniac." Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
He's wrong
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 04:10 PM (N1tpc) 2
Top 5?!?
Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 04:12 PM (pgwxJ) 3
That doesn't mean he's wrong about everything, but I can disagree with people on one point* and still think they have valid observations elsewhere.
*It can depend on the point- some and I'll start questioning everything else you've said. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 04:12 PM (N1tpc) 4
You know who invented the atom bomb.
Posted by: C. Tarlson at April 25, 2024 04:12 PM (9e2in) 5
Not only is he wrong, he must be smoking crack or something. Somebody has gotten to him. There is blackmail stuff or something out there.
Gonna go out on a limb but I half way expect to see a story soon that the fib has found child *pron* on his computer. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 04:12 PM (QNSds) 6
>>>1 He's wrong
sometimes it's not even that he's wrong. I can see arguments for this POV. It's his smug dogmatic pronouncements. He shares this in common with the leftwingers he's cozying up to. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM (KRtlO) 7
1 million not-dead Allied soldiers and 10 million not-dead Japanese civilians strongly disagree with Tu-Ca.
Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM (pgwxJ) 8
He'll be welcomed to hell by David French, Joe Scarborough, and David Brock.
Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box at April 25, 2024 04:14 PM (kvDvI) 9
>>>3 That doesn't mean he's wrong about everything, but I can disagree with people on one point* and still think they have valid observations elsewhere.
yes, but he is becoming a very unreliable compass. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:14 PM (KRtlO) Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2024 04:14 PM (QB+5g) 11
***I love, by the way, that people on my side -- I'll just admit it, on the Right -- have spent the last 80 years defending dropping nuclear weapons on civilians. Like, are you joking? That's just, like, prima facie evil. If you can't -- 'Well, if we hadn't done that, then this, that, the other thing, that was actually a great savings' -- like, no. It's wrong to drop nuclear weapons on people, and if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil.***
------------------------------------------- Ha! I like Tucker, he's loon. He should be locked in a room with Michelle Malkin. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 04:14 PM (lCWOD) 12
Wow, too bad about Chatsworth Osborne, Jr.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:14 PM (9yWhg) 13
It's wrong to drop nuclear weapons on people, and if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil.
======== What about incendiary bombs? Is that evil? War is evil. War should be avoided as much as possible. However, as we've seen, fighting war nicely is really not fighting it at all. It just extends the fight, accomplishes nothing, and creates an incentive structure to continue wars forever. Yes, nuclear weapons should be in the arsenal. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (GBKbO) 14
Whoever called Tucker in the last thread, collect your winnings…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (PCK5/) 15
He should be locked in a room with Michelle Malkin.
Posted by: Braenyard I can think of worse people to be locked in a room with. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (9yWhg) 16
It wasn't Chesterton who said that, though it's often attributed to him. It was Malcolm Muggeridge.
Posted by: Eeyore at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (1bNHn) 17
>>>Ha! I like Tucker, he's loon.
I wouldn't mind him so much because we do need dissidents, "wrongthinkers," and even loons, but I don't like that this particular loon continues to have such a hold on conservative thought. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (KRtlO) 18
I remember seeing pictures of him laughing it up with Trump and his family. Someone has something on him. He'll have to transition slowly so he's not so obvious, but it won't surprise me to see him speaking at the dem convention.
Posted by: Megthered at April 25, 2024 04:16 PM (4acn+) Posted by: The Cannibal That Ate Joe's Uncle at April 25, 2024 04:16 PM (sWgE+) 20
>>>Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) ===== You've just won a platinum membership. Please click the link and enter your credit card number so we can get you your winnings. Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 04:16 PM (GPSZ3) 21
He is wrong.
Saved thousands of lives American and Japanese Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:16 PM (mb6GH) 22
Ah, and now that I've read the rest, it seems he's pretty out there.
HOWEVER, given how much our government has been shown to lie, I understand people start believing EVERY conspiracy now. And, as you're pointing out, he's definitely starting (or is way down) onto the JEWWWWWWWWWS CONTROL EVERYTHING train. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 04:16 PM (N1tpc) 23
I be going to grandulate from Boring Flight Shcrool in Seaanttle next weak. I hopes Io cans be yoor pilot on my furst oversees flight from New Yolk to Jermany. I be grandulationing in the tops 10% of my Klass. I am the furst DEI Grandulate froms this schrool thanx tp Presdent Byedum's newt policiess
Posted by: Qieusha Nashala at April 25, 2024 04:16 PM (BKOUD) 24
I suppose it is possible that Mossad collaborated with CIA on Epstein. You know what would set this to rest? De-classifying that the CIA, FBI and whatever other bloated agency created to hide this kind of crap has on this topic.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (4hHmM) 25
I heard that Tucker clip about how nuking Japan was “evil”… heard it a few days ago (some radio talk guy played the clip). I think it’s clear that Carlson is losing his way…. Everyone needs some kind of tether to a community… to keep us grounded and to make sure we don’t start drinking our own bath water…. Now on the X platform he has no checks; Fox constrained him too much. He can’t find the sweet spot. Too bad…. Fox firing him did neutralize him, as they desired. Or rather he’s neutralizing himself….. for me his softball interview of Putin kinda started the downward spiral…. Then emphasizing civilian casualties in Gaza post 10/7 was the next warning he was losing perspective. It’s too bad
I shouldn’t have to even say this…. But his evil claim is just stupid. Pretty much any moral calculus would justify the dropping of the bomb. Japan was the aggressor country AND it demonstrably saved many human lives…. Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (xT8gx) 26
17 >>>Ha! I like Tucker, he's loon.
I wouldn't mind him so much because we do need dissidents, "wrongthinkers," and even loons, but I don't like that this particular loon continues to have such a hold on conservative thought. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (KRtlO) These days we can’t afford to be too picky, maybe. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (PCK5/) 27
It's wrong to eat people too. If they are capturing and eating us, can we drop a bomb on them then?
Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (vFG9F) 28
He sounds like a zoomer that just watched "Oppenheimer."
Posted by: brak at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (AR07F) 29
17 I wouldn't mind him so much because we do need dissidents, "wrongthinkers," and even loons, but I don't like that this particular loon continues to have such a hold on conservative thought.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (KRtlO) ======== Since my exposure to the right essentially amounts to this place, Insty, and the Babylon Bee, it seems to me like Tucker has little influence on the American right. But I'm in a bubble. I have no idea. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (GBKbO) 30
14 Whoever called Tucker in the last thread, collect your winnings…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (PCK5/) What do I win ? Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (Akjoo) 31
>>>HOWEVER, given how much our government has been shown to lie, I understand people start believing EVERY conspiracy now.
I get that, but in the worlds of Taylor Swift, "You Need to Calm Down." by "you" I mean "all of us." Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (KRtlO) 32
Carlson falls into the trap all libertarians fall into. The will forever denounce the right for the smallest policy difference, but will bend heaven and earth to seal a gulf with the left because of a slight policy agreement.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (PHukT) Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (Jj0+x) Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (KRtlO) 35
Fine. Firebombing it is. Besides, to get and burned and die takes longer to kill than nuclear heatwave. (rubs hands together)
Posted by: Disgusted at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (Z8Yh2) 36
Tucker Carlson?
Yeah, I'd eat him... Posted by: The Cannibal That Ate Joe's Uncle That Tuck, he's a fryer. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (9yWhg) 37
The more I learn about the bomb the more I'm cnvinced they had to use it...the ovt dedicated a whole lot of resources to it. They would look awfully stupid had they done that and not used it. It was more a necessity from that view, as well as a lesson to the assholes out there, and a big ol' dick swing than needed to stop Japan, which had it's ass totally kicked and was going to get beat up further with conventional weapons. Germany self-destructed on it's own, and had the scientists, but not the apparatus. So it's not cut and dry. I used to think it was certainly needed, because of whatever history books told me... Von Braun created Apollo not long after. Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (et1vG) 38
6 >>>1 He's wrong
sometimes it's not even that he's wrong. I can see arguments for this POV. It's his smug dogmatic pronouncements. He shares this in common with the leftwingers he's cozying up to. Posted by: ace ---------------------- He's lost his place. He's bringing forward voices that haven't been heard that should be heard. They should be heard because they are thoughtful people not because they are correct. He's lost his place, he's not on solid ground anymore. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (lCWOD) 39
>>>Ha! I like Tucker, he's loon.
He should be locked in a room with Michelle Malkin. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 04:14 PM (lCWOD) ===== What am I? Chopped liver? Posted by: Candice Owens at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (GPSZ3) 40
13 It's wrong to drop nuclear weapons on people, and if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil.
======== What about incendiary bombs? Is that evil? War is evil. War should be avoided as much as possible. However, as we've seen, fighting war nicely is really not fighting it at all. It just extends the fight, accomplishes nothing, and creates an incentive structure to continue wars forever. Yes, nuclear weapons should be in the arsenal. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (GBKbO) _______ The intellectually serious arguments against the bombing of H & N also exclude bombing civilians elsewhere, eg, Tokyo and Hamburg. It's not insane. Lewis and Tolkien thought so. Posted by: Eeyore at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (1bNHn) 41
30 14 Whoever called Tucker in the last thread, collect your winnings…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:15 PM (PCK5/) What do I win ? Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (Akjoo) Ask the Boss, he’s here… maybe a months worth of Faux Pas Indulgences?? Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (PCK5/) 42
I've never thought of TC as a conservative thought leader. He's in the news business for god's sake. That just entertainment for dull people.
Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (QB+5g) 43
Ok, that's a little more direct than I remembered, I didn't think he was calling people "defending" the Japan nooks as "prima facie evil."
Assuming that quote is accurate. I still think what he was decrying are the current war hawks who are callously marching us toward nukular war. But yeah, no. If you can't find room to accept that people have a moral argument to be made for dropping the bombs in '45, then you're kind of a dick. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:19 PM (dGCAG) 44
Tucker lost me forever when he went to bat for Hunter Biden.
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2024 04:19 PM (Lc5iI) 45
Dropping nukes on Japan was the only moral choice.
It is the CinC's job to win a war with as few American losses as possible. Dropping nukes accomplished that. If Japan didn't want to be nuked they shouldn't have started the war. Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:19 PM (ibTVg) 46
I suspect 'deep state/state' got ahold of him post Putin interview and showed him some 'TOP SECRET' inside UFO stuff and he lost it. I'll still watch him but his believable index has cratered faster then our oh-so Christian House Speakers. Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 25, 2024 04:19 PM (RKVpM) 47
if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil.
Worse than that, you're just plain inefficient. Posted by: Anthony Fauci at April 25, 2024 04:19 PM (Hgnyx) 48
Did Tucker have parents/relatives who served in WWII?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:19 PM (9yWhg) 49
It wasn't Chesterton who said that, though it's often attributed to him. It was Malcolm Muggeridge.
Posted by: Eeyore I believe it. Posted by: mikeski at April 25, 2024 04:20 PM (DgGvY) 50
Dafuq?
Seriously, dafuq? Seems like it's every week someone "on our side" seems to go batshit insane... Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 25, 2024 04:20 PM (OUMaO) 51
this really sucks. A year ago, I would have said Tucker was just about the smartest conservative out there....
He's Ann Coulter'd himself. Why? Looking at pics he shouldn't look at online? Paid off? threats against his family? sigh...thanks for posting this Ace Posted by: ziggggeeee at April 25, 2024 04:20 PM (K5Rdg) 52
1 million not-dead Allied soldiers and 10 million not-dead Japanese civilians strongly disagree with Tu-Ca.
Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM (pgwxJ) For about a year before Hiroshima the US had been mass firebombing every Japanese city of any size with the exceptions of a few reserved for A Bombs. The devastation was far larger than the A-bombs did and was repeated. If you care about civilian deaths, you have to include the fire bombing. A Bombs did little new aside from being all in one package. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:20 PM (eoQWY) 53
Sure Tucker The F**ker......... We should have invaded Japan and lost over a half million US Serviceman. We warned Japan and they said Blow Me. So Harry S. said fine ..... I will blow you a new strategic weapon we developed........
Say Hi to the "Enola Gay"............ Suckers .... Posted by: Ferd Berfall at April 25, 2024 04:20 PM (Qfk4E) 54
Oh and UFOs? They are clearly experimental drone/aircraft tech.
I assume by the US and the US's rivals. Remember in the 70s/80s where people in the midwest reported seeing flying wing UFOs that were quite, fast, and didn't show up on radar? Well those UFOs were simply stealth tech. And back then the government intentionally amped up the UFO notion to keep our rivals from looking too closely into the issue...and it worked. Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:21 PM (ibTVg) 55
What would Uncle Brosey say?
Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 04:21 PM (vFG9F) 56
Was dropping nukes on Japan evil ?
A few hundred-thousand residents of Nanking were unavailable for comment. Posted by: Next2Nothing at April 25, 2024 04:22 PM (tA1/w) 57
And onto the title foolish point:
Japan's industry was spread throughout the population. Hiroshima contained significant war industry and military importance. We didn't "drop a bomb on civilians". We bombed a city that was militarily important. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate targets. It's insane to claim that this was evil. I think this argument may be a roundabout way to say that Israel is evil because "civilians" get hit by attacks. It also encourages the war crimes that Hamas continues to commit by hiding among said "civilians." Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 04:22 PM (N1tpc) 58
The intellectually serious arguments against the bombing of H & N also exclude bombing civilians elsewhere, eg, Tokyo and Hamburg.
It's not insane. Lewis and Tolkien thought so. Posted by: Eeyore at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (1bNHn) And again, I think the relevant part of the quote up there is: "...and if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil." He's really talking about the here and now. He should walk back the comment, if he's not also condemning those who believed it was better to save American lives in '45. I suspect he won't, but he should. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:22 PM (dGCAG) 59
I don't think there's any question that Gislane's dad Robert Maxwell was an agent not just of Mossad, but of MI-6 as well. He introduced Epstein to his daughter and basically handed off the family business that was blackmail for intelligence agencies. There's no way you run a multi-decade sex trafficking operation that was essentially an open secret without being protected from on high, or having the dirt.
Posted by: the dandy at April 25, 2024 04:22 PM (w83EC) 60
The Gray Aliens probed Tucker, now he receives CNN just fine.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2024 04:22 PM (Jj0+x) 61
However, as we've seen, fighting war nicely is really not fighting it at all. It just extends the fight, accomplishes nothing, and creates an incentive structure to continue wars forever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison Examples: every war we've fought in my lifetime. (Gen X) Posted by: mikeski at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (DgGvY) 62
>>>If Japan didn't want to be nuked they shouldn't have started the war.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:19 PM (ibTVg) ====== The ultimate FAFO. Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (GPSZ3) 63
Oh and speaking of the morality of nukes...I'm amused the left claims it was immoral to use them but never seems to care they were not 100% sure they weren't going to set the atmosphere on fire and kill all life on earth.
Oopsie! Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (ibTVg) 64
Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki had production facilities and troop and transport centers for the war. They weren't just "civilian" targets. In a total war like WWII calling yourself a civilian is like calling yourself a sandbag
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (aX7Uj) Posted by: Trump at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (AD14M) 66
What is Carlson’s views on Trump? Biden? Illegals? Our economy?
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (PCK5/) 67
If Japan didn't want to be nuked they shouldn't have started the war.
Posted by: 18-1 This. When I was in college, I briefly kind-sorta dated a girl who was an Asian Studies major. I went with her to one of her classes once, and the TA was playing a song done by some Japanese dude on the atomic bombings, and how the people who did were "barbarians" and such. And the whole time I was thinking, "But who started the bloody war?" Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (9yWhg) 68
Building houses out of wood and paper is a crime against humanity.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (vtyCZ) 69
I haven't thrown Tucker in the rubbish bin yet. But I think he's wrong about the bomb and his "only my attitude is the correct attitude" smugness does him no favors.
I'm disappointed because there was quite a long time wherein I agreed with just about everything he said. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (JeYYB) 70
Meh. He's wrong about the nukes in Japan. So was Paul Johnson, and I still like him, so I reserve judgment.
But he's definitely right about the US government being completely satanic, and the GOP's key role in it. That's the core issue until both are dispensed with once and for all. One then the other. All else is distantly secondary in importance, decades old foreign policy decisions and UFOs. Don't know about antisemitism, haven't heard that from him yet, but I'll look into it sometime if I have nothing better to do. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (0FoWg) 71
":if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil."
How about "It was the least worst thing?" Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (vFG9F) 72
Wasn't it the Glenn Beck shtick to keep up with the "just asking question"? Before the border teddy bear craziness. I think South Park even made fun of it in the cartman dances with smurfs episode.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (Y6IkP) 73
I gotta admit, I find myself falling into the trap now of believing conspiracy theories that, oh, 10 years ago or so I would've laughed about.
For instance, a couple of weeks ago while watching the eclipse, I noticed there were many contrails in the sky. So I immediately thought, Hmm...might be something to that. Maybe they are poisoning us/cloud seeding. Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 04:24 PM (PwgSL) 74
Tucker is suffering from what a lot of modern people suffer from - putting contemporary morals and ideas and knowledge onto past actions and using that contemporary view to judge.
It's stupid. But so many people do it. Usually b/c they are lazy thinkers. Posted by: Nova Local at April 25, 2024 04:24 PM (exHjb) 75
I think "Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon" was what Eric Swalwell did in that TV interview.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 04:24 PM (PiwSw) 76
conservative thought.
Posted by: ace There's a novel thought, would be nice were there some conservative thought. Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:24 PM (RjBju) 77
When is Tucker gonna condemn William T. ("War Is Hell") Sherman?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:24 PM (9yWhg) 78
One night LeMay's B-29s burned out over four square miles of Tokyo and killed more than died at Hiroshima.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2024 04:24 PM (Jj0+x) 79
So, I'm a sandbag!
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 04:24 PM (vtyCZ) 80
Having visited both bomb sites, shed tears, it's hard to argue that it wasn't a great evil. I've also visited the Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor, shed tears.
Dresden firebombing site (the whole city) same thing. War in the Pacific theater was insanely brutal. To have been spared an invasion of Japan, any soldier would have rejoiced. War itself is a great evil, rarely a necessary one. Mankind has many dark hearts willing to engage in it, even now. Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (MeG8a) 81
People who have been Americans for hundreds of years understand that it's evil to argue for dropping the atomic bomb on Japan. We prefer carpet bombing cities, especially roasting civilians in firebombings.
Posted by: C. Tarlson at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (9e2in) 82
It actually was pretty evil; that’s war.
Posted by: Allen at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (lFLgt) 83
If you could stop WW3 by dropping a nuke on Kiev, would it be evil?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (PHukT) 84
I can think of worse people to be locked in a room with. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus --------------------------------- I've got a sweet spot for Michelle. She is a strong advocate; she believes incarcerating the Japanese was correct, that the bomb was correct and she is smart enough to take Tucker to the woodshed. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (lCWOD) Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (2UnvF) 86
Sure, Israel is not beyond criticism.
It's just when certain anti-Israel people go all "death to Jews!", I get a little uncomfortable. Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (Be/+i) 87
NOT dropping those nukes would have been stupid, suicidal, and evil; it would have substantially increased the number of both US and Japanese dead, would have extended the war for YEARS, and would have drained even more treasure from our treasury. The firebombing of Tokyo was far worse in terms of damage and dead; I guess that makes us evil too, nevermind what the Japanese did in places like Nanking and Shanghai.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (ynpvh) 88
What is Carlson’s views on Trump? Biden? Illegals? Our economy?
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (PCK5/) For, against, against, for. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (dGCAG) 89
67 If Japan didn't want to be nuked they shouldn't have started the war.
Posted by: 18-1 This. When I was in college, I briefly kind-sorta dated a girl who was an Asian Studies major. I went with her to one of her classes once, and the TA was playing a song done by some Japanese dude on the atomic bombings, and how the people who did were "barbarians" and such. And the whole time I was thinking, "But who started the bloody war?" Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (9yWhg) ====== Japan had to do it! They needed more oil to expand its already going war into China! Which it started. Which was the center of many of the warcrimes tried at the Tokyo Trials. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO) 90
If you could stop WW3 by dropping a nuke on Isfahan, would it be evil?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (PHukT) 91
He lost me after the Russia fiasco, especially after BS trip to the Russian supermarket. The whole trip was a joke.
Posted by: RobertM at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (rqWIE) 92
However, as we've seen, fighting war nicely is really not fighting it at all. It just extends the fight, accomplishes nothing, and creates an incentive structure to continue wars forever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison You can make a case that most American CinCs since FDR should have been arrested for and charged for dereliction of duty in getting American soldiers intentionally killed to minimize the loss of enemy civilians. Could you imagine in WWII a fortified German city where the bombers and artillery was NOT called out to soften them up/force them to surrender before sending the grunts in because there were also German civilians in the city? And yet this has been the norm since WWII. Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (ibTVg) 93
War is very much about degrading the opposition's will to fight. Sending countless men into a meat grinder in a Zerg rush often doesn't work because there's always a chance the other side will put up a better defense and win.
Demonstrating just how much destruction you can rain down from on high has a wonderful ability to focus one's mind on what's really important in this world. How many Japanese, upon witnessing that awful weapon, threw down their weapons and just wept because they *KNEW* they could not fight that? Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (7fElN) 94
Fire bombing of Coventry.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (Jj0+x) 95
Tucker … da fuq 😳
Posted by: browndog is petty that way at April 25, 2024 04:26 PM (dYc5F) 96
Well at least Tucker got rid of that bow tie. Some people just can rock 'em.
Posted by: George Will at April 25, 2024 04:26 PM (PiwSw) 97
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What am I? Chopped liver? Posted by: Candice Owens ------------------------ Honey, you don't hold a candle to Michelle. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 04:26 PM (lCWOD) 98
85 Is he a loon or is he chasing clicks?
What will he say next? Visit tucker dot com to find out! Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (2UnvF) Is he a loon? Is he from Canada? I hear they have Loonies up there for currency. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:26 PM (ynpvh) 99
Tucker will be handing out Teddy Bears on the Border in under 4 months.
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2024 04:26 PM (Lc5iI) 100
I've got a sweet spot for Michelle. She is a strong advocate; she believes incarcerating the Japanese was correct, that the bomb was correct and she is smart enough to take Tucker to the woodshed.
Posted by: Braenyard I saw her interviewed once. Besides being smart, she was clearly vamping for the camera when not speaking. Mmmmmm... Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:26 PM (9yWhg) Posted by: Tucker Carlson at April 25, 2024 04:27 PM (rJQdF) 102
I would find this more compelling if he didn't make this announcement in the same rant in which he decries the cover-up of "UAPs" -- Unidentified Aerial Pheonomenon, which is the new term for "UFOs" so you can avoid saying "UFOs."
I'm more worried about UTIs. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:27 PM (ynpvh) 103
Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki had production facilities and troop and transport centers for the war. They weren't just "civilian" targets. In a total war like WWII calling yourself a civilian is like calling yourself a sandbag Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM Pamphlets were dropped on major Japanese cities involved in the war effort to advise them to get out of Dodge. I suspect some did. They're known as survivors. Shame they started this shit, but someone had to end it. With two bombs. Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 25, 2024 04:27 PM (RKVpM) 104
A lot of people forget that it is fine to agree with people where you agree with them, and disagree where you don't.
Tucker has always seemed a bit of a fop to me, but I welcome his support where he provides it and oppose him where he does not. It is different for politicians whom we elect to promote certain policies and then we find out they never had any intention of promoting those policies. I have zero tolerance there. Posted by: Thatch at April 25, 2024 04:27 PM (LLNW4) 105
101 The use of longbows at Agincourt was evil. If you think about it. Just asking questions.
Posted by: Tucker Carlson at April 25, 2024 04:27 PM (rJQdF) No, the Pope said the use of CrossBows was evil if used on other Christians; pagans and heathens were Okay to use them on. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:27 PM (ynpvh) 106
He is a celebrity, he’s gonna take shit is my thought. We are celebrity obsessed.
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (PCK5/) 107
Ok. I'm done defending Tucker.
I'm assuming he's clickbaiting, maybe he's always been clickbaiting. Fuck him with a rusty katana. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (xcxpd) 108
My dad was drafted in October, 1945, when he turned 18. My mom had one brother island hopping with the Marines and another on a ship headed west across the Pacific. What are the odds they'd have survived an invasion of Japan?
Posted by: Nobel winner Paul Krugman at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (VGOMa) 109
1 million not-dead Allied soldiers and 10 million not-dead Japanese civilians strongly disagree with Tu-Ca. Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM (pgwxJ) Not to mention the 20+ million Chinese and several million other Asian people that the Japs slaughtered in an orgy of brutality that would make a Ukranian death camp guard working for the SS puke in disgust. Bloody vengeance is a perfectly justifiable reason to go to war. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (n+4am) 110
A serious west would have already ended conflict in the middle east by letting the Israelis move the Palis somewhere else in the Muslim world.
This happened in mass after WWII and like then it would have resolved most of the underlying issues. Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (ibTVg) 111
":if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil."
-------- How about "It was the least worst thing?" Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (vFG9F) There's a Christian concept that any sin is the turning away from God, and is therefore, evil. Obviously there are levels of evil. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (dGCAG) 112
Tucker is self sabotaging his career and his image.
Next thing you know he'll say Sandy Hook was a hoax. Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (NpAcC) 113
Tucker turned into the slightly less neurotic version of Alex Jones so quickly that I missed it.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (UJV30) 114
I've got a sweet spot for Michelle. She is a strong advocate; she believes incarcerating the Japanese was correct, that the bomb was correct and she is smart enough to take Tucker to the woodshed.
Posted by: Bra She was better when she made trampoline vids and wandered around in hot pants and high heels Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (RjBju) 115
If the text is accurate, his argument seems to be about keeping all citizens worldwide pinned by an international coalition of nuclear terror, forever.
Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (5IEcl) 116
109 Not to mention the 20+ million Chinese and several million other Asian people that the Japs slaughtered in an orgy of brutality that would make a Ukranian death camp guard working for the SS puke in disgust.
Bloody vengeance is a perfectly justifiable reason to go to war. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (n+4am) ======= Would China have gone communist without the Japanese taking of Manchukuo? I dunno. Just asking questions. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO) 117
The more I learn about the bomb the more I'm cnvinced they had to use it...the ovt dedicated a whole lot of resources to it. They would look awfully stupid had they done that and not used it.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at April 25, 2024 04:18 PM (et1vG) The resources for the bomb were trivial, all things considered. The real problem was that we were at an impasse. Japan's economy was in ruins, and the population was going to start starving since the Navy was cutting off nearly all shipping. The Japanese Army leadership was willing to die virtually to a man anyway, and the population would too if they acted anything like Japanese civilians on other islands we had taken. Hirohito was constrained by tradition to let the government work without his direct involvement. The A-Bombs broke the stalemate, convincing Hirohito to give orders and the Military to accept them rather than ignore them. There have been claims that something else might have done the same thing but the actual history says different. They could have opened channels up while Iwo and Okinawa were being fought over, the situation in the war was just as hopeless. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (eoQWY) 118
Plus, dropping the nukes sent an unmistakable message to our ally Joey Stalin.
Which he heeded, briefly, til he stole our stuff and made his own bomb. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (9yWhg) 119
42 I've never thought of TC as a conservative thought leader
Let’s bin the term “thought leader”. Forever. If you need one, everyone has stopped thinking. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (mggQ3) 120
111 ":if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil."
-------- How about "It was the least worst thing?" Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (vFG9F) There's a Christian concept that any sin is the turning away from God, and is therefore, evil. Obviously there are levels of evil. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (dGCAG) The Catholic faith even defines them... Posted by: Nova Local at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (exHjb) 121
These opponents of the bomb discount all the American lives that had already been lost. We were not ready to lose any more of our people. We put our foot down.
Posted by: Braenyard - today, people don't understand the putting of one's foot DOWN at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (lCWOD) 122
Ace, you magnificent bastard. You are right regarding Tucker.
Posted by: goatexchange at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (kfr/R) 123
Seems like it's every week someone "on our side" seems to go batshit insane...
Posted by: Brother Tim When governments around the world engage in open conspiracies, it's human behavior to start grabbing on to all of them. Man, if any of you are familiar with what happened to James Delingpole, this Tucker shit is just the trailer for his little 'journey.' Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (IG4Id) 124
Tucker turned into the slightly less neurotic version of Alex Jones so quickly that I missed it.
I remember when the left loved Jones, casting him in Through a Scanner Darkly as basically himself. That's when he was really only known for opposing the WoT and the left called him a "reasonable conservative" Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (ibTVg) 125
Truth be known many of us have beliefs and thoughts that are outliers --at best.
Tucker would do well to have someone with some authority or influence to prevent him from getting too far astray. Tucker could not be more wrong about Japan and the bomb. It was a horrible mess to drop the bombs but we saved lives on Both sides doing so, End of discussion. Still, will be listening to Tucker because when Tucker is good he is VERY good. Posted by: Voter theater. at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (FCPbW) 126
118 Plus, dropping the nukes sent an unmistakable message to our ally Joey Stalin.
Which he heeded, briefly, til he stole our stuff and made his own bomb. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (9yWhg) ======= "Scientists only adherence is to science. Also, Stalin needs some nukes, guys. Please share?" -Oppy Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO) 127
Which he heeded, briefly, til he stole our stuff and made his own bomb.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (9yWhg) This is about me, isn’t it? Posted by: Klaus Fuchs at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (mggQ3) 128
108 My dad was drafted in October, 1945, when he turned 18. My mom had one brother island hopping with the Marines and another on a ship headed west across the Pacific. What are the odds they'd have survived an invasion of Japan?
Posted by: Nobel winner Paul Krugman at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (VGOMa) My Dad was on a ship from the Philippines (where he had been a combat veteran in '45) to Japan when the bombs were dropped. He thought he'd die in Japan, but when he got there, the war was over. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (ynpvh) 129
How brave and noble to be willing for other people to die so you won't have to get your hands dirty.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (FVME7) 130
What is inherently evil about a nuclear weapon?
Why more so than a MOAB, a JDAM, a pistol, an arrow propelled by a bow (long, cross, horn etc.) or a rock clenched in my fist? Just degrees of lethality. Posted by: Pete Bog at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (AexFl) 131
TC has done gone off the rails.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (mggQ3) 132
130 What is inherently evil about a nuclear weapon?
Why more so than a MOAB, a JDAM, a pistol, an arrow propelled by a bow (long, cross, horn etc.) or a rock clenched in my fist? Just degrees of lethality. Posted by: Pete Bog at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (AexFl) ====== Jane Fonda should be able to answer this. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO) 133
A serious west would have already ended conflict in the middle east by letting the Israelis move the Palis somewhere else in the Muslim world.
This happened in mass after WWII and like then it would have resolved most of the underlying issues. Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (ibTVg) That is to assume the west (i.e. the U.S. of A.) wants an end to the conflict in the middle east. Seems pretty self-evident it doesn't. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (dGCAG) 134
126 118 Plus, dropping the nukes sent an unmistakable message to our ally Joey Stalin.
Which he heeded, briefly, til he stole our stuff and made his own bomb. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (9yWhg) ======= "Scientists only adherence is to science. Also, Stalin needs some nukes, guys. Please share?" -Oppy Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO) Didn't he say something about becoming Kali(fornia), the goddess of death and destruction? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:31 PM (ynpvh) 135
Ace, love the post.
Posted by: Harun at April 25, 2024 04:31 PM (c2WeP) 136
I've become more of an America First conservative. (Eff you, McConnell).
I don't want our money spent or our military dying in Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel, or anywhere else. There are exceptions. We gave 4 star hotel rooms to illegals but our vets have to fight for benefits. It appears when our Government or the CIA tries to manipulate other countries' politics it backfires or ends up costing us trillions or an obligation to take in a bunch of third-world animals. I'm over it. Would I choose to bomb Japan as Truman did? Hell yes. Again, America First. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:31 PM (JeYYB) 137
All this but no one is ever dragged into the Hague and made to appoligize in weeping confessions for canceling The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 04:31 PM (Y6IkP) 138
Tucker is self sabotaging his career and his image.
Next thing you know he'll say Sandy Hook was a hoax. Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (NpAcC) ---- We'll know he's scraping the bottom of the barrel when he teams up with Keith Olbermann and they broadcast from each others' basements.... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 25, 2024 04:31 PM (7fElN) 139
I really liked Tucker when he was on Fox.... Except the UFO thing... Maybe he has too much time on his hands now
Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (Akjoo) Posted by: Wesley Crusher at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (a3Q+t) 141
Hirohito realized that our God was stronger than their God.
Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (QB+5g) 142
130 What is inherently evil about a nuclear weapon?
Why more so than a MOAB, a JDAM, a pistol, an arrow propelled by a bow (long, cross, horn etc.) or a rock clenched in my fist? Just degrees of lethality. Posted by: Pete Bog at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (AexFl) If you're directly hit, you've vaporized, so not cruel. If you not directly incinerated by the heat blast, or blown to pulp by the pressure wave, well, not so much fun. Side effects include: vomitting, loss of hair, loss of appetite, hot dog fingers... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (ynpvh) 143
Is he wrong that hitting non combatants with buckts of sunshine qualifies as evil?
There was a good argument for it and I am not bothered by it but that does not mean it was good. Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (RjBju) 144
Could be the assessment of Carlson going the clickbait route is accurate… of course ALL the internet is, is clickbait…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (PCK5/) 145
Maybe he should go back to wearing the bowtie?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (R+EIn) 146
>>I don't think there's any question that Gislane's dad Robert Maxwell was an agent not just of Mossad, but of MI-6 as well. He introduced Epstein to his daughter and basically handed off the family business that was blackmail for intelligence agencies. There's no way you run a multi-decade sex trafficking operation that was essentially an open secret without being protected from on high, or having the dirt.
I have no doubt Epstein was working with various intel agencies including the CIA. He was allowed to operate with impunity on US soil for years, I don't think there's a chance in hell the CIA would allow foreign intel agencies to operate here without have their claws in the action. The Russia collusion scandal gave us a glimpse into how the intel community in various of our allies works with the CIA to achieve the results they want. Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (LkLld) 147
140 You know what's NOT a UAP?
A penguin! They can't fly! Posted by: Wesley Crusher at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (a3Q+t) ::: loading a penguin in my trebuchet ::: Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (ynpvh) 148
There's a Christian concept that any sin is the turning away from God, and is therefore, evil.
Obviously there are levels of evil. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (dGCAG) -------------------------------- And God thought that there were/are certain groups of people that should be eliminated. Posted by: Braenyard - today, people don't understand the putting of one's foot DOWN at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (lCWOD) 149
Would China have gone communist without the Japanese taking of Manchukuo?
I dunno. Just asking questions. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO) Mao had a fairly powerful faction and a decent base after the Long March in the hills inland in north China. But the real advantage came after the war when Russia took Manchuria and the Communists moved there. This made it impossible for Chiang to move against their army while they built up. The Nationalists might have been able to defeat them, or might have lost regardless. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (eoQWY) 150
Who gives a shit? Government is evil. There's never been one that wasn't. But it's central legitimate function is to wage war. Winning as quickly as possible is all that matters, period.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (0FoWg) 151
After Carlson touched the third rail at FNC with the tiny beginnings of a J6 investigative piece, he walked off the set, bumped into a guy he didn't know, then ducked into the mens'.
The stranger was an operator. TuCa had been pricked in the thigh with a needle, Guys in black took him from the mens' where he was slumped in a stall, and whisked him to a west side apartment where he was castrated and a chip was embedded in the back of his neck above the hairline. The result is a new TuCa, we'll call him Tu Two, and he is under 24/7 control, remotely, by a CIA team that is bunked in a shed in a secret location. Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (KiBMU) 152
Japan had to do it! They needed more oil to expand its already going war into China! Which it started. Which was the center of many of the warcrimes tried at the Tokyo Trials.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison Weird how they never want to discuss what happened to Korea on November 17, 1905. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (IG4Id) 153
Great writing Ace. Cogent argument, but gravamen ?
Does that go on potatoes, or is that like Gerry Nadler ? Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (NtVYv) 154
Yes, I am self-serving, I don't care. My father was in first waves of the Leyte invasion, and he likely would have been the same for Olympic or Coronet (40mm AAA on the beaches for the kamikazes... yeah). The troops all heaved a sigh of relief that our scientists used technology to end the fighting. The arm-chair moralists, then and now, can suck it.
Posted by: goatexchange at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (kfr/R) 155
Afternoon.
I think ole Tick is letting out his inner paleo-conservative. He'll go full John Birch Society before too long. As for UFOs...shit gets sketchy there, man. Something's going on. The truth is out there, motherfuckers. Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (BhMhR) 156
I think he is missing that 2 things can exist simultaneously. You can find civilian casualties and the aftermath of the nuclear bombs heartbreaking. I don’t think you are human if children being killed and maim doesn’t lay heavy on your heart. You can understand nuclear weapons are in all but the most dire of circumstances something you would want to avoid. At the same time, you can understand war is by its nature ugly. You can understand that not everyone is going to fight fairly and adhere to the ideal civilians are not going to be involved. You understand that if you are going to enter something as terrible as war, you should do so with the absolute goal of winning it. If you are going to go through hell, have it matter in the end and mattering can mean a deterrent going forward. You can understand, even with the goal of winning, nuclear weapons should be the last option, but an option when there is nothing else.
Posted by: Piper at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (ZdaMQ) 157
My Dad was on a ship from the Philippines (where he had been a combat veteran in '45) to Japan when the bombs were dropped. He thought he'd die in Japan, but when he got there, the war was over.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (ynpvh) There's also every US POW in Japan that the government planned to murder in the event of an invasion. Japan was prima facie evil in WWII. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (N1tpc) 158
>>>The result is a new TuCa, we'll call him Tu Two, and he is under 24/7 control, remotely, by a CIA team that is bunked in a shed in a secret location.
I can neither confirm nor deny. Posted by: " " " Tucker Carlson " " " at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (KRtlO) 159
TC has done gone off the rails.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:30 PM (mggQ3) Personally, I think it's the politicians in this country, and others in the so-called West, who are cumming all over themselves at the prospects of war with everyone, including dropping nooks all over the planet, who have gone off the rails. But that's just me. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (dGCAG) 160
'Tucker Carlson continues his headlong rush to the far left.'
this is no longer a Far Left position, the Far Left is fine with it since it gives them the basis for their power and something to beat the conservatives with. It is, however, an exhausted position since it seems to have justified so much since them. There was a school of thought, up until WWI when it was suddenly the most treasonous point of view ever (like a lot of other ones) that "In winning the war against Spain and taking her colonies, we have become Spain" and in the logic of controlling overseas colonies, we had in many ways become Spain. it may be we had no choice, and all of my uncles survived WWII in the Navy because of the bombings, but it also created a situation where the US became very similar to an imperial power, much in the way that the Romans winning the Third Punic war may have made the creation of the Imperial Roman state inevitable. Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (D7oie) 161
It is not just that he is wrong on many levels...he is also wrong on the facts.
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (Lc5iI) 162
That's when he was really only known for opposing the WoT and the left called him a "reasonable conservative"
Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 04:29 PM (ibTVg) ----- But he was right. Tell me the gains we made in the war on terror. On a scale, we killed some assholes, they killed and maimed a number of our military. I'm not sure we got our money's worth. 20 effing years. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (JeYYB) 163
Telling the king that his son, who just kidnapped and raped your sister, can marry her as long as all of the males in the city get circumcised, then massacring everyone in the city 3 days later while all of the men are incapacitated from said circumcision is better or worse than dropping a nuke?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (PHukT) 164
Hirohito realized that our God was stronger than their God.
Posted by: pawn And that he wasn't an effing god. Good. And he just went back to studying jellyfish. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (9yWhg) 165
>>>Maybe he has too much time on his hands now
Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (Akjoo) ===== You asked for it: https://youtu.be/fsOrty4RmSA?si=p_gQEaGp-uI7H-uG Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (GPSZ3) 166
I think that Tucker needed external controls like Fox News to avoid to much seat-of-the-pants thinking.
Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (krQz2) 167
81 People who have been Americans for hundreds of years understand that it's evil to argue for dropping the atomic bomb on Japan. We prefer carpet bombing cities, especially roasting civilians in firebombings.
Posted by: C. Tarlson at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (9e2in) It’s far better for women and children to be asphyxiated in bomb shelters because the firestorms from the bombings of Hamburg (for example) were so intense that it pulled in the oxygen from the shelters. That’ll help Mr. Carlson sleep at night. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (mggQ3) 168
Is he wrong that hitting non combatants with buckts of sunshine qualifies as evil?
There was a good argument for it and I am not bothered by it but that does not mean it was good. Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (RjBju) You can use that logic on anything. Napalm, Incendiaries, high explosives, bullets, clubs, your fist.... Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (eoQWY) 169
>>> I really liked Tucker when he was on Fox.... Except the UFO thing... Maybe he has too much time on his hands now
Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 04:32 PM (Akjoo) ^^ This Posted by: Styx at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (Y6IkP) 170
Didn't he say something about becoming Kali(fornia), the goddess of death and destruction?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:31 PM (ynpvh) ---------- Shiva. Quoting the Mahabharata. Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (Be/+i) 171
Alternate Headline: What Kompromat Does the Deep State Possess on Putin Spy Tucker Carlson.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (Q3+9O) 172
149 Would China have gone communist without the Japanese taking of Manchukuo?
I dunno. Just asking questions. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO) Mao had a fairly powerful faction and a decent base after the Long March in the hills inland in north China. But the real advantage came after the war when Russia took Manchuria and the Communists moved there. This made it impossible for Chiang to move against their army while they built up. The Nationalists might have been able to defeat them, or might have lost regardless. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (eoQWY) The Nationalists were pretty completely infiltrated with commies. Chiang Kai-shek's son was being held by the commies in Russia as additional leverage. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (ynpvh) 173
" Hell yes. Again, America First.
Posted by: Seems Legit" I don't think "isolationist" is a bad word. F' Mitch McConnell. Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (vFG9F) 174
sometimes it's not even that he's wrong. I can see arguments for this POV.
It's his smug dogmatic pronouncements. He shares this in common with the leftwingers he's cozying up to. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM This very same thing happened to howard stern. He was anti anything liberals in NYC did for years and years. He would call them stupid and idiots on his radio show constantly. After he started getting *famous* he did an almost immediate hard left turn and now he is a complete and total left wing zealot. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (QNSds) 175
And now for something completely different. This guy may have his economic ducks in a row but his relationship skills could use a little work. (
https://shorturl.at/ilDPV Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (FVME7) 176
Continuing pounding Japan into the ground would have killed hundreds of thousands
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (fwDg9) 177
And while I don't know that Jeffrey Epstein was an agent being run by Israel, I'm completely willing to believe it. It's not out of the question, certainly.
____________________________ Meh...the only way Clinton becomes a frequent flyer to that island is if it's being run by our guys....not Israel. Additionally, there was juice to limit the charges against Epstein when he got caught the first time. That only happens internally, not be an outside entity. Posted by: Orson at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (dIske) 178
I like Tucker Carlson. I watched his show regularly. But that also means I'm familiar with Tucker's overstating his case.
Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (krQz2) 179
That is to assume the west (i.e. the U.S. of A.) wants an end to the conflict in the middle east.
Yep. Israel was moving along just fine in normalizing relations with most of the Arab world. But we, the USA, could not keep our damn noses out of it. I swear, its the Old Football Fan approach to global politics. It there is a conflict somewhere, the old WarCocks want to see our boys in it. Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (i7drE) 180
>>>Personally, I think it's the politicians in this country, and others in the so-called West, who are cumming all over themselves at the prospects of war with everyone, including dropping nooks all over the planet, who have gone off the rails.
yes they have, but does that mean we have to go off the rails in the opposite direction? So we can "counter-balance" them with our own wacky stuff? Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (KRtlO) 181
@162 The defense contractors definitively got their moneys worth.
Posted by: Allen at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (lFLgt) 182
>>The result is a new TuCa, we'll call him Tu Two, and he is under 24/7 control, remotely, by a CIA team that is bunked in a shed in a secret location.
When Tucker first got out of school he applied for a job at his father's old company, the CIA. He was turned down so he went into the media. Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 04:37 PM (LkLld) 183
Personally, I think it's the politicians in this country, and others in the so-called West, who are cumming all over themselves at the prospects of war with everyone, including dropping nooks all over the planet, who have gone off the rails.
But that's just me. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (dGCAG) Yeah, but we are talking about TC’s moral preening over the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We need to rediscover DIME. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:37 PM (mggQ3) 184
John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at April 25, 2024 04:37 PM (sAmhv) 185
As a thought leader, I've come to the realization that we shouldn't have conducted any bombing, nuclear or otherwise. Candace Owens is right about the real victims of WWII.
Posted by: C. Tarlson at April 25, 2024 04:37 PM (9e2in) 186
>>>This very same thing happened to howard stern. He was anti anything liberals in NYC did for years and years. He would call them stupid and idiots on his radio show constantly. After he started getting *famous* he did an almost immediate hard left turn and now he is a complete and total left wing zealot.
yeah I think that was a whole different thing, that was just the ugly geek getting on TV (well, "America's Got Talent") and going Hollywood so he could finally sit at the cool kids' table. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:37 PM (KRtlO) 187
Winning as quickly as possible is all that matters, period.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (0FoWg) Ah, but there's where things have changed. Governments discovered it was way more profitable to never end the wars. And here we are. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:37 PM (dGCAG) 188
And Japan started it, so quit crying about it. Don't start a war then your not going to pay for it
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (fwDg9) 189
Did Malkin go loony? I joined Hotair when she ran the place; she always seemed levelheaded... and looked pretty good too. I see she's not writing anywhere anymore? She retired?
Posted by: SimoHayha at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (N/k1H) 190
It does seem hard to find someone sane. Please do not start dating AOC, Ace.
Posted by: PG at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (gQbO4) 191
180 yes they have, but does that mean we have to go off the rails in the opposite direction? So we can "counter-balance" them with our own wacky stuff?
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (KRtlO) ======= If one is to be generous, one might say that Tucker is arguing that governments should not have the power of nuclear weapons because they are untrustworthy today and would be more willing to use nuclear weapons on their own populations than anyone else. If one is to be generous. Honestly, quite generous. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (GBKbO) Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (KRtlO) 193
167 81 People who have been Americans for hundreds of years understand that it's evil to argue for dropping the atomic bomb on Japan. We prefer carpet bombing cities, especially roasting civilians in firebombings.
Posted by: C. Tarlson at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (9e2in) It’s far better for women and children to be asphyxiated in bomb shelters because the firestorms from the bombings of Hamburg (for example) were so intense that it pulled in the oxygen from the shelters. That’ll help Mr. Carlson sleep at night. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (mggQ3) ::: sieges of old have entered the chat ::: Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (ynpvh) 194
It Is easy to argue that Japan behaved more barbarically than we did in wwii and that is true.
The rape of Nanking was more evil than bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That does not mean that we do not benefit from striving to be more right. I am not interested in racing to the bottom of morality. Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (RjBju) 195
At what point in the A-bomb development and testing did we let the Brits in on it? Or were they a part of it pretty much from the beginning?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (9yWhg) 196
166 I think that Tucker needed external controls like Fox News to avoid to much seat-of-the-pants thinking.
Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (krQz2) ******* It's becoming apparently clear that he needed restraints. Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (NpAcC) 197
It’s funny but a lot of people who have Media access just say whatever shit pops into their heads for the world to observe…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (PCK5/) 198
But it's central legitimate function is to wage war. Winning as quickly as possible is all that matters, period.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice Well, I'd gild-the-lily in that "The primary charge of a government is the defense of its citizens and its borders," which includes making just war. But whatev's. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (IG4Id) 199
The Russia collusion scandal gave us a glimpse into how the intel community in various of our allies works with the CIA to achieve the results they want.
Posted by: JackStraw ---------------------------- 5 eyes are watching you, watching you Posted by: Braenyard - today, people don't understand the putting of one's foot DOWN at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (lCWOD) 200
188 And Japan started it, so quit crying about it. Don't start a war then your not going to pay for it
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (fwDg9) ======= "We didn't do anything." -Japan by the mid-50s, at the latest Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (GBKbO) 201
Yeah, but we are talking about TC’s moral preening over the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
We need to rediscover DIME. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:37 PM (mggQ3) I know that's what you're talking about. But it's really not what he was talking about, nor is it what matters now. What matters now is the headlong pursuit of nukular Armageddon that is coming, and people are mad at a talk show host who said something indelicate? Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (dGCAG) 202
170 Didn't he say something about becoming Kali(fornia), the goddess of death and destruction?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:31 PM (ynpvh) ---------- Shiva. Quoting the Mahabharata. Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 04:35 PM (Be/+i) Oh, Gesundheit. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (ynpvh) 203
None of these idiots ever address the Japanese policy of in home manufacturing during WWII.
The civilians were building components at their kitchen tables, all over the country. Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (Lc5iI) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (FVME7) 205
I disliked Tucker Carlson long before it was cool. To be fair though I dislike almost every political pundit.
I’ve always disliked Jonah Goldberg even at the height of his popularity because all of his opinion pieces had to show moral equivalence that the Right also did what he was currently criticizing the Left about. I always saw Tucker as another Glenn Beck and he would eventually self destruct. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (MNhXM) 206
There's something about an Aqua Velva man.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (63Dwl) 207
Yes, I am self-serving, I don't care. My father was in first waves of the Leyte invasion, and he likely would have been the same for Olympic or Coronet (40mm AAA on the beaches for the kamikazes... yeah). The troops all heaved a sigh of relief that our scientists used technology to end the fighting. The arm-chair moralists, then and now, can suck it.
Posted by: goatexchange at April 25, 2024 04:34 PM (kfr/R) Japanese plans were to have the kamikaze planes and Tokko suicide craft ignore warships and go for the landing ships exclusively. And even if all the troops were bulletproof the things they would have to do to give the Japanese to give up would form wounds in the psyche that would never heal. We saw that already on pretty much every island fight we had. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (eoQWY) 208
"We didn't do anything."
-Japan by the mid-50s, at the latest Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Wrote it before, if you press older Japanese on the nuke matter, they'll admit they would have used them on the US and anyone else in their way. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 04:40 PM (IG4Id) 209
One thing that's been nagging me...
When McCartgy was Speaker, he gave Tucker the video from the security cameras at the Capitol on January 6. Tucker showed the first of what was supposed to be multiple nights of coverage. And then he lost his job. And afaik, he never again showed any footage from January 6. What happened? If the video was left behind at Fox - who then buried it - is there a reason why new copies weren't made available to him? Why did Tucker seemingly never bring it up again? Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 04:40 PM (JJ2jk) 210
181 @162 The defense contractors definitively got their moneys worth.
Posted by: Allen at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (lFLgt) ------ This 100% Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:40 PM (JeYYB) 211
I liked his videos after the split from Murdoch News. Some good stuff there, IIRC. But I haven't watched any (on YT) lately, including his Putin interview. Not much interested in what Vlad has to say. When it comes to Russians, I pay attention to what they do, not to what they say. I disagree with a lot of people that we "lied" our way into the Second Gulf War, including Tucker and Ace. Eh. Tucker is just another voice. Maybe one day he'll have something interesting to say.
Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 04:40 PM (rj6Yv) 212
This very same thing happened to howard stern. He was anti anything liberals in NYC did for years and years. He would call them stupid and idiots on his radio show constantly. After he started getting *famous* he did an almost immediate hard left turn and now he is a complete and total left wing zealot.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) I loved Stern back in the 90s. He went national and one of the rock stations in Columbus, OH where I lived at the time started carrying him every morning. Listened to him almost every day. Loved the rebellious vibe he put out. Now he's a broken old man lefty NPC. I think Covid really broke him. Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 04:40 PM (PwgSL) 213
Using nukes in Japan just proves the theory that a short violent, decisive war is preferable to a longer drawn out one. We dropped two nukes, and hundreds of thousands of lives were saved that would of been lost over the next year or two. As it was, war over in a week.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 04:41 PM (W/lyH) Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 04:41 PM (MNhXM) 215
You can use that logic on anything. Napalm, Incendiaries, high explosives, bullets, clubs, your fist.... Posted by: Old Yes. And? Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:41 PM (RjBju) 216
176 Continuing pounding Japan into the ground would have killed hundreds of thousands
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (fwDg9) I thought the expectation was millions. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:41 PM (ynpvh) 217
yes they have, but does that mean we have to go off the rails in the opposite direction? So we can "counter-balance" them with our own wacky stuff?
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (KRtlO) While I absolute appreciate us being much more judicious about the use of a military option in various places all over the world, there are too many people here who want to go in the complete opposite direction and want America to be whiny and toothless. And if that means the PRC taking over the world, so be it. Too many people here just look at this country and cringe with embarrassment and overwhelming shame. I don’t. We need to use DIME when it comes to foreign policy again and use the M - military - as a last resort. But we also need to maintain the threat of power projection. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:41 PM (mggQ3) 218
We should have invaded, gassed the japs, and lost a million GIs.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (Q2P04) 219
There is no faster way to unmask a fallacious argument and find a contra intellectual fraud than to discuss Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's even more revealing that Tucker clearly knows the history of our island hopping campaign in WW II, the human costs, complete Japanese brutality, and the ultimately the potential costs of invading the Japanese mainland.
War is Hell. But Tucker wouldn't know that because he never fought in one and gets his information from nutcases like COL. MacGregor. But this is simple math. Do you want to see more Americans and allies die, or more Japanese who told us outright they would not only never surrender, but take as many of us with them as they could. In war, that's an easy choice. There are largely few moral arguments to be made about more and even less for aggressors who not only started it, but are true believers in insidious, complete and unrelenting murder to win. Tucker can kiss my ass and of my relative who fought in the South Pacific were alive, they would throat punch him. Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (5x1xh) 220
>>>Now he's a broken old man lefty NPC. I think Covid really broke him.
he had turned hard left years before that. He called his own audience racist for having previously enjoyed his racial material! He went full left 2015-2016, but people I know who kept listening to him (after he went on Sirius) say it was really America's Got Talent that changed him. He really thought he was a big Hollywood star. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (KRtlO) 221
Ah, but there's where things have changed. Governments discovered it was way more profitable to never end the wars.
And here we are. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 Yeah. Dragging your feet to deliberately lose your wars as slowly as possible so that you can get rich at the expense of your own troops' lives and your countrymen's security, while strengthening your enemies and increasing their prestige, is considerably more evil than frying a paltry few hundred thousand more bloodthirsty Nips so the boys can come back to Omaha. I was tired of this fuckin' argument by fifth grade. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (0FoWg) 222
So unexpected my balls hurt. ( not vouching for this, but this is their citation: )
https://tinyurl.com/ku92tzyu @sentdefender Israeli and U.N. Officials have both now Confirmed that during a recent Inspection of the Temporary Jetty in Central Gaza that will be utilized in conjunction with the U.S. Army’s Floating Dock to bring Humanitarian Aid into Gaza, they were Attacked by Hamas Mortar Fire resulting in Damage to several Pieces of Engineering Equipment while causing the U.N. Team to be Rushed to Shelters by IDF Soldiers. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (IG4Id) 223
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If one is to be generous, one might say that Tucker is arguing that governments should not have the power of nuclear weapons because they are untrustworthy today and would be more willing to use nuclear weapons on their own populations than anyone else. If one is to be generous. Honestly, quite generous. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda -------------------------------- That honesty is whistling at windmills. oh, the poor metaphor Posted by: Braenyard - today, people don't understand the putting of one's foot DOWN at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (lCWOD) 224
yes they have, but does that mean we have to go off the rails in the opposite direction? So we can "counter-balance" them with our own wacky stuff?
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM (KRtlO) Which part is the wacky stuff? The UFO biz? The Alex Jones as a profit thing? Remember where this was. It was a 3 hour conversation with Joe Rogan. Tucker says silly things, and in that setting, the stream of consciousness aspect of sitting there with Rogan gets to damn near everybody. Like I said up further, I think if you could get Tucker to admit it, he's acknowledge he was wrong to impugn the character of everyone who favored the Japan nooks. He probably won't say it, but I think he knows he was wrong. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (dGCAG) 225
Another own goal by the left.
@_johnnymaga 🚨David Pecker's testimony today destroyed the prosecution's case He testified that Trump "had no idea what [he] was talking about" when he asked about reimbursing Michael Cohen for the Stormy payment He also said the "catch & kill" scheme was devised by him & Cohen--NOT Trump Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (LkLld) 226
218 We should have invaded, gassed the japs, and lost a million GIs.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (Q2P04) ======= Alt history: Truman is considered history's greatest monster because he could have ended WWII with a pair of flashes, but he chose to go the route he considered the more moral. That moral path led to the 3 more years of war, killing millions of Japanese civilians in bloody, urban combat. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (GBKbO) 227
Honestly, had we not had the bomb we would have just firebombed Japan until they surrendered. Don’t really see any difference between the two except the novelty of the A-bomb.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (BjRQH) 228
208 "We didn't do anything."
-Japan by the mid-50s, at the latest Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Wrote it before, if you press older Japanese on the nuke matter, they'll admit they would have used them on the US and anyone else in their way. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 04:40 PM (IG4Id) Like da Nasties and Us, the Japs were trying to develop one. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (ynpvh) 229
>>>Tucker Carlson also embracing one of the 10 mental defects common in all Leftists.
Presentism What the fuck, man? Posted by: Santa Claus at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (KRtlO) 230
Oh, Gesundheit.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (ynpvh) ---------- Thank you. Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (Be/+i) 231
Something else Chesterton said: "War is not the best way of settling differences; it is the only way of preventing their being settled for you."
Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (LLJRz) 232
At what point in the A-bomb development and testing did we let the Brits in on it? Or were they a part of it pretty much from the beginning?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (9yWhg) I think we shared information with them and to a lesser extent the Russians but given that it took until 1952 to get a bomb of their own I don't think they were closely involved. Also reduces the chance of the Germans learning about it. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (eoQWY) 233
Mao had a fairly powerful faction and a decent base after the Long March in the hills inland in north China. But the real advantage came after the war when Russia took Manchuria and the Communists moved there. This made it impossible for Chiang to move against their army while they built up. The Nationalists might have been able to defeat them, or might have lost regardless. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:33 PM (eoQWY) I think it was simply that Mao decided to largely sit out the war in the north and let the Japs slaughter the KMT troops while the ChiComs built up for the inevitable civil war against Chiang, doing most of the work for him. If memory serves, the US had to basically threaten to cut off the ChiComs from US supplies in order to get them off their asses to attack the Japs. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (n+4am) 234
I don't trust any man these days. Nope the days full of deception. Ace let's not turn into a littlegreenfootball. Okay ? Okay.
Posted by: Plainoldtoast at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (ytSiK) 235
I've heard, and I don't know if it's actually true, that all Purple Hearts being awarded today still come from stock manufactured in WWII. They were expecting so many casualties from an attack on mainland Japan that they ordered a shitload of them.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (xPl2J) 236
he had turned hard left years before that. He called his own audience racist for having previously enjoyed his racial material!
He went full left 2015-2016, but people I know who kept listening to him (after he went on Sirius) say it was really America's Got Talent that changed him. He really thought he was a big Hollywood star. Posted by: ace Man, that's sad. I stopped listening to him around 2010 when he went over to pay radio. Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (PwgSL) 237
What matters now is the headlong pursuit of nukular Armageddon that is coming, and people are mad at a talk show host who said something indelicate?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:39 PM (dGCAG) Huh? Nuclear Armageddon is coming? Says who? (Idiots. I’ve heard that so damn much the past four years or so I’m just at the point of wake me when a nuke actually goes off. It’s all talk. Talk is cheap.) Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:45 PM (mggQ3) 238
I’ve always disliked Jonah Goldberg even at the height of his popularity because all of his opinion pieces had to show moral equivalence that the Right also did what he was currently criticizing the Left about.
Posted by: polynikes That and he was/is lazy; he was interviewed for his 'Liberal Fascism' book by a dozen rightie outlets and used the same exact marketing patter in each one. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 04:45 PM (IG4Id) 239
I look at the nukes in a purely strategic way.
We would have faced another two years of war, and well over a million American casualties as we killed women and children armed with spears, because the emperor told his people to die rather than surrender. The nukes saved both American lives and Japanese lives, and to an American, an American life is worth far more than a Japanese one. Sorry if that offends anyone, but it is the truth, and the kind of truth nobody seems to want to admit anymore. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 25, 2024 04:45 PM (lTGtQ) 240
Estimates from 100K to over a million GI casualties ? Yeah - drop the nukes. I would have glassed the place first.
Tucker's a man thats never faced personal moral danger. Never liked the limp-wristed bowtie wearing faggot in the first place. Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at April 25, 2024 04:45 PM (i7drE) 241
>>> I don't trust any man these days. Nope the days full of deception. Ace let's not turn into a littlegreenfootball. Okay ? Okay.
so I'm in danger of going littlegreenfootballs if I defend the *right* POV against a leftwing critique? Things are changing fast. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:45 PM (KRtlO) 242
did he apologize for storming over to Mar a Lago, freaking Trump out with his harridan-esque screeching, and pushing him to lock us down yet or nah?
nah, right? he was so very proud of doing that Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (s3qiR) 243
You know who else is waking up?
WaPo: George Will wakes up to see his monster. Stoking the passion that is their excuse for pandering - the nihilism of a febrile minority in their party - a majority of House Republicans - voted last Saturday to endanger civilization. Hoping to enhance their political security in their mostly safe seats, and for the infantile satisfaction of populist naughtiness (insulting a mostly fictitious “establishment”, they voted to assure Vladimir Putin’s attempt to erase a European nation...Tuesday’s Senate ratification of Ukrainian aid proves that Dwight Eisenhower’s baton of Republican internationalism was passed, via Ronald Reagan, to Mitch McConnell." I've always held George Will in low esteem, but he's a talented wordsmith nevertheless. "J.D. Vance, an itinerant Neville Chamberlain visiting green rooms". I am so stealing that. Right when our last living WW2 vets go to their reward, the GOPigs spit in these heroes' freedom-fighting faces. Will, like Buckley before him, fancies himself a conservative intellectual, though he was always careful to maintain a sanitary distance from the culture warriors. Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (JCZqz) 244
I think this is very fair analysis of where Tucker has gone, and I also respect people with the courage of their convictions and the honesty to state them clearly. So they can be honestly debunked.
Tucker is from the MSM, and you will pry the pretense of objectivity from their cold, dead hands. Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (RIvkX) 245
241 Things are changing fast.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:45 PM (KRtlO) ======== *considers mentioning Prometheus* *thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus* *does own part to keep thread Prometheus free* Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (GBKbO) 246
I thought the expectation was millions.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:41 PM (ynpvh) Millions of them. Hundreds of thousands of us. Not even a consideration. We had the edge. We used it. Everyone in the event benefitted from the decision. The only argument to be made against it was that we let the genie out of the bottle, that edge didn't last, the technology threatens the whole globe now, and the people in charge on our side are out of their fucking heads. But that was all unknowable at the time. Truman made the right call. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (0FoWg) 247
At what point in the A-bomb development and testing did we let the Brits in on it? Or were they a part of it pretty much from the beginning?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus The Brits gave us their nuclear research material. They had it first. See the Tizzard mission. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (lTGtQ) 248
Germany if they hadn't lost first could have been nuked
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (fwDg9) 249
226 218 We should have invaded, gassed the japs, and lost a million GIs.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (Q2P04) ======= Alt history: Truman is considered history's greatest monster because he could have ended WWII with a pair of flashes, but he chose to go the route he considered the more moral. That moral path led to the 3 more years of war, killing millions of Japanese civilians in bloody, urban combat. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (GBKbO) Heard that Truman, when vacillating on using nukes, was told by one of his advisors, "What will you do, three years from now during your impeachment, when it comes out you could have saved millions of GIs by dropping an atomic bomb?"... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (ynpvh) 250
tucker could be right or wrong or sideways
I don't care he squicks me; bad vibe and he seems very hesitant to be actually thoughtful Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (s3qiR) 251
I'm skeptical about everything now, except they want us to die.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (w6EFb) 252
248 Germany if they hadn't lost first could have been nuked
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (fwDg9) ======= It's my understanding the the original idea was the develop the nukes to be used on Germany. They just folded first. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (GBKbO) 253
221 Ah, but there's where things have changed. Governments discovered it was way more profitable to never end the wars.
And here we are. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 And being whiny and toothless is just so much better. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (mggQ3) 254
>>>242 did he apologize for storming over to Mar a Lago, freaking Trump out with his harridan-esque screeching, and pushing him to lock us down yet or nah?
oh right, he was one of the Covid Karens, wasn't he? I always forget that. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (KRtlO) 255
Glenn Beck is really good at doing one thing: selling Glenn Beck.
Posted by: And food insurance at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (jAber) 256
Now he's a broken old man lefty NPC. I think Covid really broke him.
Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 04:40 PM (PwgSL) --- Scratch a libertarian and ~50% of the time, you'll find a liberal/libertine underneath. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (krQz2) 257
242 did he apologize for storming over to Mar a Lago, freaking Trump out with his harridan-esque screeching, and pushing him to lock us down yet or nah?
nah, right? he was so very proud of doing that Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (s3qiR) ----- Who are you referring to? Serious question. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (JeYYB) 258
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus* *does own part to keep thread Prometheus free* Posted by: TheJamesMadison *considers mentioning guns* *thinks better of mentioning guns and does not mention guns* *does own part to keep thread gun free* Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2024 04:48 PM (Jxvt5) 259
DIME
Diplomatic Information Military Economic Seeks to avoid counterproductive and conflicting activities during tactical operations through mission planning and execution. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 04:48 PM (W/lyH) 260
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (KRtlO)
Yeah he was always Leftist. He was raised by Leftists parents . He built his career though by being a shit to everyone in power be it celebrity or politician. It was all schtick. I like listening because of the studio turmoil. It was like a hilarious soap opera. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 04:48 PM (MNhXM) 261
Jawbone of an ass > jawboning with Tucker
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 04:48 PM (FVME7) 262
>Below, Tucker Carlson insists he has knowledge that the intelligence agencies are blackmailing congressmen -- but also says he can't say who's confessed to being blackmailed.
Like Corey Feldman, always promising to name Hollywood pedophiles, but never actually doing it. Posted by: mr tmz at April 25, 2024 04:48 PM (rJ48h) 263
I'm embarrassed for you . There was no need to drop those bombs, the war was in effect, over.
Posted by: SAHMmy at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (vpXdH) 264
My uncle went to boot camp with his best friend in 1939. His friend went to the Fourth Marines, Mell went to the Fifth. His friend died at Bataan and his remains were never found. Mel went on to receive the Navy Cross for actions on Iwo Jima. To his dying day he hated all things Japanese.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (2UnvF) 265
232 At what point in the A-bomb development and testing did we let the Brits in on it? Or were they a part of it pretty much from the beginning?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:38 PM (9yWhg) I think we shared information with them and to a lesser extent the Russians but given that it took until 1952 to get a bomb of their own I don't think they were closely involved. Also reduces the chance of the Germans learning about it. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (eoQWY) They developed the...sloika?..."jelly-rol"l style of A-bomb, as I recall reading. Good enough design for bombs up to a certain size. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: sven at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (X0I7i) 267
Tucker sounds more like a 60s liberal than a modern leftist. A modern leftist would love to nuke a red state or city.
Posted by: Max Power at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (q177U) 268
Germany if they hadn't lost first could have been nuked
Posted by: Skip If Germany had had a rational leader, they would have had nukes and used them long before we did. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (lTGtQ) 269
>>> There was no need to drop those bombs, the war was in effect, over.
Japan didn't seem to think it was over. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (KRtlO) 270
But this is simple math. Do you want to see more Americans and allies die, or more Japanese who told us outright they would not only never surrender, but take as many of us with them as they could. In war, that's an easy choice.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 04:42 PM (5x1xh) That isn't quite the real equation. If the allies invade, not only do more of them die, but also far, far more Japanese fighters and civilians die. From war and starvation. You can make the same decision leaving out all consideration of Allied deaths. An invasion would likely have virtually exterminated the Japanese nation. They expected it to themselves. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (eoQWY) 271
263 I'm embarrassed for you . There was no need to drop those bombs, the war was in effect, over.
Posted by: SAHMmy at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (vpXdH) ======= Interesting alt-history right here. Why did it take 2 atomic blasts to convince Japan to surrender, then? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO) 272
Pamphlets were dropped on major Japanese cities involved in the war effort to advise them to get out of Dodge. I suspect some did. They're known as survivors.
Side note, there was actually one guy officially documented as present both times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Yamaguchi Monumentally shitty timing... (Side note, there may have been as many as 160 who were affected by both, this is just the one guy the Japanese government recognized.) Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (OUMaO) 273
Huh?
Nuclear Armageddon is coming? Says who? (Idiots. I’ve heard that so damn much the past four years or so I’m just at the point of wake me when a nuke actually goes off. It’s all talk. Talk is cheap.) Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:45 PM (mggQ3) Says Macron. Says every American politician who is talking about sending troops to Ukraine. Are you really not paying attention? Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (dGCAG) 274
It is very cheap virtue signaling to condemn earlier generations for decisions they had to make. They were the ones stuck dealing with imperial Japan, not someone pontificating 80 years later.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (roH4R) 275
233
... I think it was simply that Mao decided to largely sit out the war in the north and let the Japs slaughter the KMT troops while the ChiComs built up for the inevitable civil war against Chiang, doing most of the work for him. If memory serves, the US had to basically threaten to cut off the ChiComs from US supplies in order to get them off their asses to attack the Japs. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (n+4am) That's what I read too. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (ynpvh) 276
He probably won't say it, but I think he knows he was wrong. Posted by: BurtTC How many other things does he know he was wrong about? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (63Dwl) 277
263 u r a fag
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (0FoWg) 278
It's my understanding the the original idea was the develop the nukes to be used on Germany. They just folded first.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (GBKbO) -------------- Yup. Berlin would have caught a nuke had they hung on till August. Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (Be/+i) 279
254 Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (KRtlO)
Carlson has always been a tad histrionic, not like Grin Breck but still. Posted by: sven at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (X0I7i) 280
It's my understanding the the original idea was the develop the nukes to be used on Germany. They just folded first.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:47 PM (GBKbO) Yep. And it took longer to develop the first bomb due to the limitations of technology at the time. As I recall, what took 40,000 man-years of labor to do in the 1940s took India 2500 in the 1970s. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (mggQ3) 281
Who are you referring to? Serious question.
the beginning of COVID mania Trump was NOT going to lock us down. my husband watched tucker every night to my chagrin, so I heard him the whole week before going off like a ninny about how terrifying COVID was ... then he actually went (his own mouth!) to Mar a Lago and spent days haranguing Trump and convinced him to lock us down. I'll never forget the show after when he CROWED about it. I'll not forgive him, not that he ever admitted he was wrong. Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (s3qiR) 282
So believing that bombing civilians makes you left wing? I really don't know what tribe I'm supposed to be a part of anymore.
Nobody has a problem pointing out all the war crimes of our enemies, but turn a blind eye when our own team does it. This kind of doublethink has been going on since Pearl Harbor, as far as Japan is concerned. Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (NAuoi) 283
@226 That moral path led to the 3 more years of war, killing millions of Japanese civilians in bloody, urban combat.
-------- You forgot the part where the islands were resettled by Americans fter the war because the Japanese race was virtually extinct outside of the Nissei in the US. Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (JJ2jk) 284
Germany if they hadn't lost first could have been nuked
Posted by: Skip If Germany had had a rational leader, they would have had nukes and used them long before we did. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (lTGtQ) This is another myth from the peaceniks. If Germany had been standing by mid 1945, they absolutely would have been nuked. No question. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (eoQWY) Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (s3qiR) 286
Maybe a takeaway from thisis to put NO Media celebrity on any sort of pedestal… they pretty much all crave the money and attention.
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (PCK5/) 287
Every time I say millennials are the dumbest generation in Human history out pops a Boomer saying something really stupid about the greatest generation. Its easy to say in hindsight. A lot harder for a trooper that just Won the ETO be told they were going to have to invade Japan.
Posted by: Fisht at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (BHEHK) 288
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:45 PM (mggQ3)
Says Macron. Says every American politician who is talking about sending troops to Ukraine. Are you really not paying attention? Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (dGCAG) But congratulations to you. You have taken EXACTLY the same position as Biden's DoD. They laugh at the idea of taking Putin seriously. Because it hasn't happened. Yet. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (dGCAG) 289
I will again say this is a function of our deteriorating institutions. Between the response to Trump's win in 2016 and the response to Covid in 2019, a lot of things that were considered the realm of conspiracy theory has turned out to be true. This has unmoored a lot of people, not just Tucker. Turns out actually having to question EVERYTHING takes a toll.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (5C4od) 290
Tuck getting the Leftists touchy feely lately?
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (fwDg9) 291
They would have used a nuke on us. Germany would have too. It was not evil to stop them.
Posted by: fd at April 25, 2024 04:52 PM (vFG9F) 292
Honestly, had we not had the bomb we would have just firebombed Japan until they surrendered. Don’t really see any difference between the two except the novelty of the A-bomb.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (BjRQH) Firebombs and starvation. The Navy argued for their total blockade of Japan. Truman and/or his observers (and certainly MacArthur) saw the danger of that plan. It would certainly give the USSR plenty of time to consolidate its hold on northern China, possibly the entire Korean peninsula, and take China by means of Mao's army. Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 04:52 PM (rj6Yv) 293
The Troll is "in effect"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 04:52 PM (RIvkX) 294
Tucker needs to learn how to make provisional argument.
I think we should think deep and hard about justifying the frying of millions of civilians, women and children. He should have said "There is a CASE that it's PURE EVIL", which would simply be acknowledging Rogan's comparison. But, not everything is simple. People's impressions sometimes need to be taken into account, but what would have made Tucker look better is to say that he "GETS" the case that Rogan is comparing. Not just to overcorrect and have to walk back what was too broad of a take. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 04:52 PM (krQz2) 295
248 Germany if they hadn't lost first could have been nuked
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (fwDg9) Germany, if their program had not been sabotaged by the Allies, could've had the bomb first. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:52 PM (ynpvh) 296
>>>So believing that bombing civilians makes you left wing? I really don't know what tribe I'm supposed to be a part of anymore.
Nobody has a problem pointing out all the war crimes of our enemies, but turn a blind eye when our own team does it. This kind of doublethink has been going on since Pearl Harbor, as far as Japan is concerned. I believe it's very easy to take that position after the war had been ended. I think if you were an American living then, and had already faced four years of war and tens of thousands of casualties, you might have a different moral calculus. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:52 PM (KRtlO) 297
269 >>> There was no need to drop those bombs, the war was in effect, over.
Japan didn't seem to think it was over. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (KRtlO) They absolutely would have fought until there was nothing left of their country. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:52 PM (PCK5/) 298
In the American perspective, the instruments of national power are: Diplomacy, Information, Military, and Economic (DIME). According to Joint Publication 1, The ability of the US to advance its national interests is dependent on the effectiveness of the United States Government (USG) in employing the...
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 04:53 PM (vtyCZ) 299
Publishers, editors, producers, directors - sometimes they're worth it.
Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2024 04:53 PM (PMJuY) 300
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (s3qiR)
------ Interesting. Because he didn't get the shot and was pretty adamant about it. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:53 PM (JeYYB) 301
Continuing pounding Japan into the ground would have killed hundreds of thousands
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 04:36 PM Yep and that is an important point that most people forget. Without the bombs the war would have continued for 6 or more months with an invasion of the Japanese homelands and the continued bombing of the entire country. At that point in the war each large bombing raid was killing/wounding thousands of people every single raid. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 04:53 PM (QNSds) 302
War is evil.
Don't start one if you don't want evil upon you because your enemy will fight back. Japan literally hoped that America wouldn't fight back. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO) 303
Says Macron. Says every American politician who is talking about sending troops to Ukraine.
Are you really not paying attention? Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (dGCAG) I am, and it’s TALK until it happens. You can clutch your pearls listening to endless BULLSHIT all day long, but I will not buy it until I hear about a nuke going off. This has been going on for the past four fucking years or so AND NOTHING HAS FUCKING HAPPENED. Talk is cheap. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (mggQ3) 304
233
... I think it was simply that Mao decided to largely sit out the war in the north and let the Japs slaughter the KMT troops while the ChiComs built up for the inevitable civil war against Chiang, doing most of the work for him. If memory serves, the US had to basically threaten to cut off the ChiComs from US supplies in order to get them off their asses to attack the Japs. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (n+4am) That's what I read too. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (ynpvh) yes, it became a thing in Commie/Leftist history circles to say the exact reverse, that the Maoists did all the fighting. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (eoQWY) Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (KRtlO) 306
My Dad was in the South Pacific. Both he and my Mom believed he would not return. Last stationed in Guam, he thought the Japanese would never surrender. He thought the bomb a gift, bc of all the lives it saved. TC is insane.
Posted by: EveR at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (Z/h4+) 307
There's something about Carlson in his new environment that suggests he's surrounded by a bunch of halfwits and sycophants that just agree with him and never say "that's stupid boss."
Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (RjBju) 308
264 My uncle went to boot camp with his best friend in 1939. His friend went to the Fourth Marines, Mell went to the Fifth. His friend died at Bataan and his remains were never found. Mel went on to receive the Navy Cross for actions on Iwo Jima. To his dying day he hated all things Japanese.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (2UnvF) My dad was in the hospital a decade or so ago, and had finally come out of his induced coma. A therapist came by, and my Dad said, "Are you Japanese? I occupied your country." LOL, I couldn't believe my Dad told her that. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (ynpvh) 309
282 Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (NAuoi)
There were military installations in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you know what would have prevented their being bombed? The undeclared fucking attack on Pearl Harbor not happening. Posted by: sven at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (X0I7i) 310
OK, so, we don't drop the bombs. When does the war end? If the answer isn't August 15, 1945, you got some explaining to do. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (ro5Z0) 311
did he apologize for storming over to Mar a Lago, freaking Trump out with his harridan-esque screeching, and pushing him to lock us down yet or nah?
nah, right? he was so very proud of doing that Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:46 PM (s3qiR) I must have missed this. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (w6EFb) 312
"I've heard, and I don't know if it's actually true, that all Purple Hearts being awarded today still come from stock manufactured in WWII. "
I've read that also, I don't know why anyone would lie about it. Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (MeG8a) 313
I watched the whole interview. Don't agree with him about the bomb, don't agree with him on a number of things. But he doesn't bullshit you about where he stands and why. I'll take intellectual honesty over agreement all day long.
Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (h8c/W) 314
I'm embarrassed for you . There was no need to drop those bombs, the war was in effect, over.
Posted by: SAHMmy at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (vpXdH) That has to be a sock. No one is that WW2 illiterate. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (MNhXM) 315
Interesting alt-history right here.
Why did it take 2 atomic blasts to convince Japan to surrender, then? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda And an attempted coup by much of the military to stop the Emperor's broadcast of surrender to the people, so the war could continue. Hell, they definitely weren't going to surrender after the first bomb, and only barely did so after the second. Posted by: Military Moron at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (JCZqz) 316
I’m looking forward to Tucker’s reprocessing of the VietNam War … you know …the war where a Viet Cong became a student demonstrator by taking away his AK-47 .. either before or after he is dead
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (0OdlD) 317
Some trolls are forgetting about the Kamakazi attitude many had in Japan. More than just the pilots. It's win or die.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (JeYYB) 318
Because he didn't get the shot and was pretty adamant about it.
good for him! the lockdowns were still the worst thing (other than seeding nursing homes with sick young people and locking THEM in with COVID infected people and withholding antibiotics but I digress) I dont trust Tucker honestly. there's something off on his Very Tightly Held opinions Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (s3qiR) 319
Discussing alligator wrestling is much easier in a climate controlled studio than in the swamp up to your ass in alligators.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (FVME7) 320
315 And an attempted coup by much of the military to stop the Emperor's broadcast of surrender to the people, so the war could continue. Hell, they definitely weren't going to surrender after the first bomb, and only barely did so after the second.
Posted by: Military Moron at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (JCZqz) ======= The coup was because the military wanted to surrender even faster! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (GBKbO) 321
Firebombing Dresden and Tokyo was bad. We shouldn't have done that. Nuking the Japs was fine.
Why? What's the difference? One worked. The other didn't. End of story. It's simple. In a war, winning is the goal. You're going to do bad things. When the bad things end the war in your own favor, they become good things on balance. It's a life and death scenario. In those, the ends justify the means. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (0FoWg) 322
How many other things does he know he was wrong about?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (63Dwl) If you listen to him, he'll tell you. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (dGCAG) 323
271 263 I'm embarrassed for you . There was no need to drop those bombs, the war was in effect, over.
Posted by: SAHMmy at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (vpXdH) ======= Interesting alt-history right here. Why did it take 2 atomic blasts to convince Japan to surrender, then? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO) Because the military guys that wanted to kill Hirohito so he couldn't surrender were stopped. Otherwise it would've taken a few more. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (ynpvh) 324
watched the whole interview. Don't agree with him about the bomb, don't agree with him on a number of things. But he doesn't bullshit you about where he stands and why. I'll take intellectual honesty over agreement all day long.
Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (h8c/W) You like his intellectual take on COVID? Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (MNhXM) 325
Yup. Berlin would have caught a nuke had they hung on till August.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (Be/+i) Truman received the news of the successful test of the plutonium bomb at the Potsdam Conference. Close call, Berlin. Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (rj6Yv) 326
Honestly, had we not had the bomb we would have just firebombed Japan until they surrendered. Don’t really see any difference between the two except the novelty of the A-bomb.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 25, 2024 04:43 PM (BjRQH) --- It's not like Dresden had a "smart fire bomb" that would just take out the soldiers. And no, you can't celebrate Dresden, but you can understand it as a casualty of war. The Germans and the Japanese put us in a "State of War", and they suffered reprisals for their overreach. We would have lost soooo many men going down the shooting gallery of Tokyo Bay. I had a college instructor who was on one of the those ships scheduled to go through the killzone the Japanese had made Tokyo Bay He was socially, and mostly politically liberal, but he *loved* the bomb. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (krQz2) 327
At that point in the war each large bombing raid was killing/wounding thousands of people every single raid.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 04:53 PM (QNSds) Single firebombing raids of Tokyo killed more than either A Bomb. The Nagasaki one was kinda a fizzle in terms of death count, the primary target was clouded over and Nagasaki was a smaller place. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (eoQWY) 328
307 There's something about Carlson in his new environment that suggests he's surrounded by a bunch of halfwits and sycophants that just agree with him and never say "that's stupid boss."
I think he spends too much time on X Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (s3qiR) 329
I think the military was planning the war into 1947 if I remember correctly. It would have been a terrible bloodbath.
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (PCK5/) 330
Nearly always overlooked is that Japan, even at the time it surrendered, remained in control of most of southeast Asia, as well as a large part of China, and all of Korea. Those civilian populations would have experienced more suffering and death the longer the war persisted, as well as Japan's own military and civilian casualties, and --- most important from America's perspective --- Allied military casualties, especially Americans from an invasion of Japan that was expected to result in hundreds of thousands of American dead.
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (qcPWJ) 331
Little known fact … there 13 nuclear weapons in some level of assembly by the end of the war
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (0OdlD) 332
I'm embarrassed for you . There was no need to drop those bombs, the war was in effect, over.
Posted by: SAHMmy at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (vpXdH) That has to be a sock. No one is that WW2 illiterate. Posted by: polynikes Vox Populi would agree with our troll. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (9yWhg) 333
The bomb doesn’t have morals any more than a hammer does. It was a means to an end.
If you think the end was the right one one you use it. Posted by: Pete Bog at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (AexFl) 334
War is evil.
Don't start one if you don't want evil upon you because your enemy will fight back. Japan literally hoped that America wouldn't fight back. Posted by: The That's true, but that does not mean you have to be evil. Would you suggest we should had a rape of Tokyo the way the Japanese raped nanking? Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (RjBju) 335
@233 I think it was simply that Mao decided to largely sit out the war in the north
-------- Mao spent most of the war attacking Nationalist troops, and largely ignoring the IJA. IIRC, eventually Chiang got sick of Mao's double-dealing, and revoked the cease-fire with the Communists. But the war meant he couldn't take any serious action. The Soviets occupied Manchuria right before the end of the war, handed it over to Mao, and used the fact that it was neighboring the USSR to feed him supplies. There's more to it, and it's a complicated subject. But that's the major stuff. Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (JJ2jk) 336
>>> But he doesn't bullshit you about where he stands and why.
I think he does. After he caught flack for questioning Israel's right to defend itself on October 8th or 9th, he then claimed all he meant to do was be one guy standing up for America's self-interest. Then over the proceeding months he interviewed one guy after another calling Israel evil. He just had on a Palestinian Christian to complain that Christians are badly treated in Israel. Tucker Carlson "forgot" to mention the areas he was talking about where governed by the Palestinians. So he attempted to tell Christians that evil Jews were tricking him. But sure, he's very "upfront" about what he believes. Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (KRtlO) 337
Funny thing with nukes, 80 years after we glassed two Japanese cities, one could argue that they are better allies for the US now than the Limeys who've supposed to have been allies for nearly 200 years. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (n+4am) 338
There were military installations in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you know what would have prevented their being bombed?
The undeclared fucking attack on Pearl Harbor not happening. Posted by: sven Nuking two civilian cities was a war crime, and disproportionate use of force compared to Pearl Harbor...just like Israel's genocide in Gaza and Palestine!!!! Posted by: Radical Lefty Palestinian Apologists at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (JCZqz) 339
Germany, if their program had not been sabotaged by the Allies, could've had the bomb first.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) That, plus so many of their scientists fled to the west due to the nazis. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (lTGtQ) 340
324 Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (MNhXM)
Call in and ask me how I can destroy 7+ trillion dollars of global income in two quarters! //CUOMO19 Hysterics Posted by: sven at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (X0I7i) 341
I think the military was planning the war into 1947 if I remember correctly. _________ "Golden Gate in '48" Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (ro5Z0) 342
the lockdowns were still the worst thing (other than seeding nursing homes with sick young people and locking THEM in with COVID infected people and withholding antibiotics but I digress)
I dont trust Tucker honestly. there's something off on his Very Tightly Held opinions Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (s3qiR) ------ I 100% agree with you, BlackOrchid. I not only think it was the worst thing, as Tucker would say, I think it was evil. Not hyperbole. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (JeYYB) 343
But congratulations to you. You have taken EXACTLY the same position as Biden's DoD.
They laugh at the idea of taking Putin seriously. Because it hasn't happened. Yet. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (dGCAG) I take the position of Catch Thirty-Thr33, thanks, TALK IS CHEAP. When a nuke goes off, call me. Until that moment, this is all BULLSHIT you are worked up over, and you’re mad that I’m not going Chicken Little right with you. AND here’s this: one country has used nukes. NO ONE wants to be #2. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (mggQ3) 344
...AND NOTHING HAS FUCKING HAPPENED.
Talk is cheap. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (mggQ3) Apparently you haven't heard of the Ukraine war. Congratulations, you fit right in with Biden's DoD. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (dGCAG) 345
Did the flight of Jewish physicists like Einstein do much to hinder their atomic-bomb research?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (9yWhg) 346
Remember when Jon Stewart told Tucker Carlson that Tucker had turned Crossfire from a dignified cross-party debate show into a Springer screaming match?
Remember when everyone got bent out of shape and said Jon Stewart was "clown nose on, clown nose off" whenever Stewart tried to avoid responsibility for his advocacy? And now Tucker Carlson proclaims he is "just asking questions." Who's the bigger clown? No, no - not Stewart or Carlson. Carlson or the people who were taken in by him and thought he was a dignified journalist and commentator and not a populist entertainer. "Just asking questions and screaming at guests" on, clown nose off. Posted by: Sam at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (7jMef) 347
Bill Whittle's presentation on the pros and cons of nuking Japan was convincing to me.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (w6EFb) 348
But sure, he's very "upfront" about what he believes.
he's an op! I just feel it in my bones. I don't know what it all means, but he is a part of the Narrative, maybe some kind of counter narrative... Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (s3qiR) 349
Interesting alt-history right here.
Why did it take 2 atomic blasts to convince Japan to surrender, then? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO) Because the military guys that wanted to kill Hirohito so he couldn't surrender were stopped. Otherwise it would've taken a few more. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (ynpvh) They thought it might be a one-shot. The second conviced them it wasn't. If that didn't work we were gonna be making dozens of them like a factory. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (eoQWY) 350
317 Some trolls are forgetting about the Kamakazi attitude many had in Japan. More than just the pilots. It's win or die.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (JeYYB) For them their Emperor was a God. As long as he said “ fight” they would have done so. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (PCK5/) 351
Personally I couldn't give a Tinker's damn about Carlson. I'd be more interested in who is selected #166 in the NFL draft than anything he has to say. He left Fox with probably a half dozen stories under development that had been researched well. They made him sound good. But over time the research has dwindled to whatever he has now, and suddenly, the bloom is off the rose.
Meh. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (W/lyH) 352
287 Every time I say millennials are the dumbest generation in Human history out pops a Boomer saying something really stupid about the greatest generation. Its easy to say in hindsight. A lot harder for a trooper that just Won the ETO be told they were going to have to invade Japan.
Posted by: Fisht at April 25, 2024 04:51 PM (BHEHK) Um...he's NOT a Boomer. I'm older than him and I'm not a Boomer. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (ynpvh) 353
Everything I ever read on Germany's nuclear project is yes the allies did work to wreck it but Germany was way behind and no way had the money to get that far, they couldn't keep their armies supplied
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Funny thing with nukes, 80 years after we glassed two Japanese cities, one could argue that they are better allies for the US now than the Limeys who've supposed to have been allies for nearly 200 years. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (n+4am) ------ Agree. And if you see those cities now, they are beautiful, much better than most American cities. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (JeYYB) 355
I have family that fought in both the European Theater and Pacific Theater. The ones who fought in Europe largely went on with their lives after the war. The ones in the Pacific never forgave the Japanese until their dying day. A lot of contemporary arguments speciously leave out how brutal the Japanese had been. How you execute the battle of often becomes a part of your own fate.
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337 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (n+4am)
I used to believe that, of course I am now of the mind that the Japanese and Germans being subjected to our early adopter progressives and having their national pride outlawed is why we face this bullshit now. Posted by: sven at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (X0I7i) 357
I take the position of Catch Thirty-Thr33, thanks, TALK IS CHEAP. When a nuke goes off, call me. Until that moment, this is all BULLSHIT you are worked up over, and you’re mad that I’m not going Chicken Little right with you.
AND here’s this: one country has used nukes. NO ONE wants to be #2. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (mggQ3) Settle down, Francis. The adults are talking. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (dGCAG) 358
That's true, but that does not mean you have to be evil.
Would you suggest we should had a rape of Tokyo the way the Japanese raped nanking? Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (RjBju What does that gibberish even mean? Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (MNhXM) 359
If Israel secretly has tons of dirt on our regime, then they’re doing a terrible job of leveraging it
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (CnN/c) 360
Sam is correct! yes Sam
he's an entertainer. not particularly entertaining with the womanly screeching and goofy nervous laughing - well I think those are tells Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (s3qiR) 361
AGA War Room
@MAGAIncWarRoom Constitutional Law Attorney @CherkaskyKatie : "The case is very weak. It's obvious why Alvin Bragg originally didn't think this case should be the first one to go...it's not looking good. It's not shaping up to really be a clear example of any criminal conduct." https://tinyurl.com/45yx82tr Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (NpAcC) 362
if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil."
How about "It was the least worst thing?" Posted by: fd There's a Christian concept that any sin is the turning away from God, and is therefore, evil. Obviously there are levels of evil. Posted by: BurtTC Present Tucker with "the trolley problem." I guess his solution would be to go back in time and prevent the invention of the trolley? Not by killing the inventor, of course. Posted by: mikeski at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (DgGvY) 363
Is Bill Whittle still around? Haven't seen anything from him in ages.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (xPl2J) 364
So Carlson was a covid Karen? I never knew that or missed it…. But his views did change over time. I’d swear I saw his show lots of times before he left Fox where he really slammed all the Covid mania and gave a platform to Scott Atlas and Robert Malone…. Maybe he was an early Karen then thought better of it?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (xT8gx) 365
I always figured Okinawa sealed the deal. 100k lives lost in bitter fighting. The Japanese might have been defeated, but they were going to make us fight for every blade of grass.
A tough call and far easier to doubt it in the present day. A tired nation, USSR looming, new president, I probably would have made that call as well. Posted by: chicagovota at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (hH3ux) 366
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That's true, but that does not mean you have to be evil. Would you suggest we should had a rape of Tokyo the way the Japanese raped nanking? Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (RjBju) ======== No, I wouldn't. I'd recommend mass death until the enemy decides to stop fighting a war it started because it's imperialistic ambitions were far greater than its capabilities which led it to attack a non-combatant nation that vastly overpowered it in industrial might in the hopes that it would be able to get more oil afterwards. Seriously. In a world where weapons manufacture is done in civilian populations, once the war reaches those limits, civilians are going to die. A lot of them. Since the governments are supposedly instituted for the people's protection, it's up to the governments to decide when they can't go any further and try to end things. Since the Japanese government wasn't trying to end things, well, civilians around military targets are fair game. War sucks. They shouldn't be fought. But when they are fought, they should be fought to win. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO) 367
305 thanks for the explanation of DIME
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (KRtlO) I thought this was well-known…at least here! Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (mggQ3) 368
I chalk Tucker's recent weirdness up to the fact that he was basically a puppet of the increasingly leftwing Fox News management for the last number of years, and there are certainly things that are not allowed to be said on-air at Fox. Now being free from that, he feels like he can say what the fuck ever has been ruminating in his head all this time. It feels like just a brain dump rather than a careful examination of one's own beliefs and then saying some things out loud, leaving some unsaid.
I support Israel's right to self-defense purely on the Fuck Around and Find Out principle, and on the grounds that Hamas is a collection of prehistoric savages that the world wouldn't miss if they were all vaporized. However, it's hard to miss the knee-jerk reaction of nearly everyone on the right to accuse anyone who raises even a slight criticism of Israel of antisemitism, which is bug-fuck stupid, lazy, and annoying. It's also hard not to notice that for being a nation with the population of Georgia (the state), that they have a very outsized influence on our foreign policy and even our internal politics. I think that's something worth exploring. Posted by: ballistic at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (oqH4h) 369
Carlson is an Xer
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (s3qiR) 370
Did the flight of Jewish physicists like Einstein do much to hinder their atomic-bomb research?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (9yWhg) They had some good people left. I heard they went down a blind alley in some technical respects, and of course the RAF bombing their facilities didn't help. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (eoQWY) 371
four years of war and tens of thousands of casualties,
--- 300-400k American casualties in the Pacific theater. 100k+ KIA. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 05:01 PM (0FoWg) 372
304 233
... I think it was simply that Mao decided to largely sit out the war in the north and let the Japs slaughter the KMT troops while the ChiComs built up for the inevitable civil war against Chiang, doing most of the work for him. If memory serves, the US had to basically threaten to cut off the ChiComs from US supplies in order to get them off their asses to attack the Japs. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 04:44 PM (n+4am) That's what I read too. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 04:50 PM (ynpvh) yes, it became a thing in Commie/Leftist history circles to say the exact reverse, that the Maoists did all the fighting. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (eoQWY) In truth Mao sent those troops involved during those early years to the Chinese front lines in Korea to kill them off. No need to have anyone around to debunk the lies his kingdom was built on. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:01 PM (ynpvh) 373
345 of the Germans, I mean
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 05:01 PM (9yWhg) 374
Did the flight of Jewish physicists like Einstein do much to hinder their atomic-bomb research?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM Yep. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 05:01 PM (QNSds) 375
Like Woody Allen, except real:
@DissocialSpace 22m BREAKING NOW - In a bold move, the UN has removed the mask from the Climate Change hoax by inviting the Taliban to a series of talks in order to CON-vince the world to send them lots and lots of money to save them from the weather. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 05:01 PM (IG4Id) 376
As a side note more died in the fire-bombing of Tokyo, 90,000+, on March 9th 1945 than at Hiroshima.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (vHfLU) 377
"I've heard, and I don't know if it's actually true, that all Purple Hearts being awarded today still come from stock manufactured in WWII. "
I've read that also, I don't know why anyone would lie about it. Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (MeG8a) IIRC, there was an order placed for 600,000 Purple Hearts decoration sets as part of the prep for the invasion of Japan. Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (rj6Yv) 378
Settle down, Francis. The adults are talking. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (dGCAG) Which you are clearly not, given how you act as if history was invented when you were born. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (mggQ3) 379
364 So Carlson was a covid Karen? I never knew that or missed it…. But his views did change over time. I’d swear I saw his show lots of times before he left Fox where he really slammed all the Covid mania and gave a platform to Scott Atlas and Robert Malone…. Maybe he was an early Karen then thought better of it?
ok but to this day he has not apologized for pushing PDJT to lock us down. but I saw him with my own eyes gleefully stating he convinced the President to do the lockdown. I dont have video so you have to trust me I guess. I'll never ever forget it. that lockdown broke my heart; it took my country away from me. it was the most wrong thing. the most wrong. Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (s3qiR) 380
312 "I've heard, and I don't know if it's actually true, that all Purple Hearts being awarded today still come from stock manufactured in WWII. "
I've read that also, I don't know why anyone would lie about it. Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (MeG8a) So many were produced due to the expected casualties for the Japanese invasion. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (ynpvh) 381
Remember when Jon Stewart told Tucker Carlson that Tucker had turned Crossfire from a dignified cross-party debate show into a Springer screaming match?
Remember when everyone got bent out of shape and said Jon Stewart was "clown nose on, clown nose off" whenever Stewart tried to avoid responsibility for his advocacy? And now Tucker Carlson proclaims he is "just asking questions." Who's the bigger clown? Posted by: Sam at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (7jMef) --- That's really not the same thing at all. And you have a weird way of making that exchange about specifically Tucker. Stewart was talking about Crossfire as a brand, not just what Tucker had turned it into. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (krQz2) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (ro5Z0) 383
@241 ace no not saying that at all. It was tongue in cheak heavy sarcasm. And a little stupidity. Much love
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Read up on what the invasion of Kyushu would have entailed. It'll curl your hair. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (ro5Z0) ======= The Japanese laying down all arms and surrendering because they were essentially defeated? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (GBKbO) 385
The battle of Okinawa also factored heavily into the equation. The casualties were higher there than at Normandy and the Kamikazes were taking their toll on the Navy. The US public was growing war weary. I don't think an invasion of Japan was ever a possibility.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (2UnvF) 386
Ace has become unreadable...
Just kidding about that, but I would point out to him that there are such things as "control files" and look at the all the idiotic voters in Congress for whatever bloated Deep State program. I certainly think that these guys in the Deep State and the Breakaway Civilization types have the goods on a lot of Congressional Critters... Posted by: Mister Ghost at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (TGPs7) 387
376 Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (vHfLU)
Correct and Dresden was more effectively destroyed than a nuke would have accomplished.... of course Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki are all three nicer than Detroit and Baltimore two vital cities for the allied war effort. Democrats are deadlier than nukes. Posted by: sven at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (X0I7i) 388
I always find it amusing when atomic bombs, napalm, white phosphorus bombs, poison gas and cluster munitions are considered bad but TNT is okay. They are all 'chemical' weapons (atomics being on the fringe). What's the difference to dying from an incendiary bomb to getting blown to pieces by a 500lb bomb? A cannon shell? Same for poison gas. Yes, you may not die immediately but that also applies to the person holding his guts in his hands after being disemboweled by a nearby explosion or someone's bayonet. I could go on but enough for now. Rant over.
Posted by: Ciampino - and it's always the children at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (qfLjt) 389
There's more to it, and it's a complicated subject. But that's the major stuff. Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (JJ2jk) Oh, I know. My knowledge of internal Chinese WWII politics comes down to "Mao didn't raise a finger against the Japs". And getting a truthful story of those years out of the ChiComs is pretty much impossible. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 05:04 PM (n+4am) 390
I guess the long knives are out for Tucker on the right.
The circular firing squad on the right is always loaded and ready. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:04 PM (krQz2) 391
If Germany had had a rational leader, they would have had nukes and used them long before we did. Replace Hitler and the NAZIs with Kaiser Wilhelm I and Otto Von Bismark in 1939 and yeah...I think they win. But their winning would have been completely different from Hitler's idea of winning of course. Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 05:04 PM (ibTVg) 392
What does that gibberish even mean?
Do you need me to use emojii or ebonics? Shortbus threads are after hours. Do better man. Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 05:04 PM (RjBju) 393
305 thanks for the explanation of DIME
-------- I didn't know it either; I was thinking of another but military-only U.S. doctrine -- probably the Nuclear Triad was in my mind. Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 05:04 PM (vtyCZ) 394
I dont have video so you have to trust me I guess. I'll never ever forget it. that lockdown broke my heart; it took my country away from me.
it was the most wrong thing. the most wrong. Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 05:02 PM (s3qiR) I believe you. Didn’t mean to imply otherwise. I absolutely agree with you regarding the lockdowns. I’ll never forget that and I’ll never trust the government again. The worst government action in this country of my lifetime Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (xT8gx) 395
Apparently you haven't heard of the Ukraine war.
Congratulations, you fit right in with Biden's DoD. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:57 PM (dGCAG) I didn’t realize nukes were used in the Ukraine war. Go dig a bomb shelter, Chicken Little. Since you are so cock-sure nuclear war is inevitable. JFC, it’s like talking to a Leftist in the 1980s. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (mggQ3) 396
>> If he at least had the courage and integrity to state his suspicions out loud, I'd be less critical
No - he would get the Kanye treatment and be cancelled in a microsecond. Posted by: T at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (OC8EF) 397
By the time of Iwo Jima, Americans were weary of all the casualties. Lots of gold star families. And there was no sign of these slowing down, just the opposite. The astonishing thing is that VP Truman knew nothing about the Manhattan project. That didn't come until he was President.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (MeG8a) 398
392 Do better man.
Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 05:04 PM (RjBju) ====== Wars where civilians don't die are fantasy. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (GBKbO) 399
Like Woody Allen, except real:
@DissocialSpace 22m BREAKING NOW - In a bold move, the UN has removed the mask from the Climate Change hoax by inviting the Taliban to a series of talks in order to CON-vince the world to send them lots and lots of money to save them from the weather. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 05:01 PM (IG4Id) --- Sadly, far too many nations in the UN (including the US) will probably cave in and give the Taliban money--on the condition that it's laundered through various NGOs and "charities" of course. Grifters gotta grift. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (7fElN) 400
Democrats are deadlier than nukes. Posted by: sven at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (X0I7i) //////////////////////////////////////////// Spot on! Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (vHfLU) 401
I've heard it said they were ready to surrender but NOT unconditionally until the bombs dropped.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (63Dwl) 402
The decisive moral argument surrounding the atomic bombings of Japan are this: the Japanese were killing 100,000 innocent Asians in China, Indonesia, Vietnam, Burma, etc., in mid-to-late 1945. Any other manner of ending the war would have prolonged it and resulted in far more innocent Asians dying than Japanese, "innocent" or not. There is no other feasible way to end the war in August 1945 without the shock effect of atomic weapons. Any other approach - blockade, invasion, negotiations - would have taken far more time (certainly greater than 2 weeks, which is the time required for the number of other Asian deaths to equal the deaths at Hiroshima and Nagasaki) and resulted in far more deaths, including Japanese.
The dirty little secret of Carlson and all those who decry the atomic bombings as immoral irrespective of any other consideration, is that they would have given the Japanese militarists what they wanted - to remain in power at any cost. With that, the US would have faced the horror of fighting another even worse war with an even more twisted and insane Japanese leadership 20 years later, against a by-then nuclear armed Japan. Posted by: Sloucho at April 25, 2024 05:06 PM (Dv8DR) 403
350 317 Some trolls are forgetting about the Kamakazi attitude many had in Japan. More than just the pilots. It's win or die.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 04:55 PM (JeYYB) For them their Emperor was a God. As long as he said “ fight” they would have done so. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:58 PM (PCK5/) Which island (Okinawa?) were there only a handful of civillians lefte alive? They were willing to fight to the death. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:06 PM (ynpvh) 404
I always find it amusing when atomic bombs, napalm, white phosphorus bombs, poison gas and cluster munitions are considered bad but TNT is okay. They are all 'chemical' weapons (atomics being on the fringe). What's the difference to dying from an incendiary bomb to getting blown to pieces by a 500lb bomb? A cannon shell?
Posted by: Ciampino - and it's always the children at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (qfLjt) --- And of course we have the beneficial individually wrapped explosive shrapnel ball. Because the bank is so little. How about a Claymore? Those only shoot ball bearings one way. So they're half as disastrous as a full explosion. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:06 PM (krQz2) 405
Or cheek
Posted by: Plainoldtoast at April 25, 2024 05:06 PM (ytSiK) 406
Democrats are deadlier than nukes.
Posted by: sven I mean, some of the big blue cities kind of look like they were hit by a nuke these days. Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 05:06 PM (PwgSL) 407
okay I'm over it lol. whatever Tucker is an entertainer and he can be interesting
I have a personal grudge over the lockdown thing and I wish he would apologize for how he behaved with that. I think people deserve that, at the very least. it was a big, huge mistake. he wasn't alone but he really had PDJT's ear. personally something about him seems off to me, like I said I had to watch it every night on fox b/c that was treadmill time so I saw him a bunch. he just felt ... always something off for me. but that's just me. I'm sure he's fine. Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 05:07 PM (s3qiR) 408
Times were simpler and not so mean when we were all firing grapeshot at each other.
Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:07 PM (krQz2) 409
Yes, force marching, starving, decapitating for sport, torturing, raping, and murdering men, women and children is so much morally superior than dropping a nuclear bomb to get them to stop.
Honestly, who are you people. Tucker, is that you? Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 05:07 PM (5x1xh) 410
355 I have family that fought in both the European Theater and Pacific Theater. The ones who fought in Europe largely went on with their lives after the war. The ones in the Pacific never forgave the Japanese until their dying day. A lot of contemporary arguments speciously leave out how brutal the Japanese had been. How you execute the battle of often becomes a part of your own fate.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (5x1xh) My dad and his buddy made a pact that if it looked like the Japs were going to capture them, they'd shoot each other at the same time. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:07 PM (ynpvh) 411
I certainly think that these guys in the Deep State and the Breakaway Civilization types have the goods on a lot of Congressional Critters...
Posted by: Mister Ghost at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (TGPs7) ---- I mean the international foreign policy/intelligence blob just turned Mike Johnson into a quivering blob in about two hours flat. He goes into the SCIF one way, comes out 180 degrees the other. What's being shown to them is one of two things: 1) We are a LOT closer to global war than anyone is letting on or 2) Everyone is being blackmailed to hell and back. Posted by: ballistic at April 25, 2024 05:07 PM (oqH4h) 412
It feels like just a brain dump rather than a careful examination of one's own beliefs and then saying some things out loud, leaving some unsaid.
I support Israel's right to self-defense purely on the Fuck Around and Find Out principle, and on the grounds that Hamas is a collection of prehistoric savages that the world wouldn't miss if they were all vaporized. However, it's hard to miss the knee-jerk reaction of nearly everyone on the right to accuse anyone who raises even a slight criticism of Israel of antisemitism, which is bug-fuck stupid, lazy, and annoying. It's also hard not to notice that for being a nation with the population of Georgia (the state), that they have a very outsized influence on our foreign policy and even our internal politics. I think that's something worth exploring. Posted by: ballistic at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (oqH4h) -------- I'm interested in your newsletter. Kidding aside, well said. I'm pro-Israel, I like the principles of sound economics better. I'd like to seem them "handle" the Hamas problem without our interference. That includes our stupid "humanitarian aid." Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 05:07 PM (JeYYB) 413
Seriously. In a world where weapons manufacture is done in civilian populations, once the war reaches those limits, civilians are going to die. A lot of them.
War sucks. They shouldn't be fought. But when they are fought, they should be fought to win. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO) Think of a reverse situation where Japan can hit the US at will with bombs. All those cute Rosie the Riveter gals in the pictures helping build military aircraft are valid military targets in a total war scenario. That's why even in Ukraine for a while there were understood rules in place. Ever wonder why there was no fighting in Russia, in the north border and the area north of Kharkov? Because there was an understood agreement that neither side would do serious operations there. And for 2 years outside of some shelling and some terrorist actions by Ukraine, there still hasn't been. For quite a while Russia avoided hitting areas where NATO was doing intelligence and planning inside Ukraine. In the last few months that agreement has been dropped, and the French took some licks that explain why they are yapping about Troops. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:07 PM (eoQWY) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 05:08 PM (FVME7) 415
I was recently informed by staunch conservative leader, Senator McConnell, that Tucker Carlson is enemy #1 because he doesn't want to send all our money to Ukraine.
I guess we have our orders. Posted by: DaisyB at April 25, 2024 05:08 PM (AbL8c) 416
358 That's true, but that does not mean you have to be evil.
Would you suggest we should had a rape of Tokyo the way the Japanese raped nanking? Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 04:56 PM (RjBju What does that gibberish even mean? Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 04:59 PM (MNhXM) Dunno. War is brutal. When one side engages in brutality of the populace under the aegis of their regime, it is especially evil. Nuking rape. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:08 PM (ynpvh) 417
How about a Claymore? Those only shoot ball bearings one way. So they're half as disastrous as a full explosion.
I remember a movie scene were the hero didn't have a gun but did have a Claymore and one of those police ballistic shields so he strapped it on the shield and ran right at the bad guy. Hijinks ensued... Maybe a Statham movie? Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 05:08 PM (ibTVg) 418
Times were simpler and not so mean when we were all firing grapeshot at each other.
Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:07 PM (krQz2) Slicing the abdomen open of a dude at swords reach isn't any nicer of more fun. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:09 PM (eoQWY) 419
More Americans killed in the battle for Okinawa than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined .
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:09 PM (MNhXM) 420
As I've said about Tucker and even Candace, neither of whom I ever particularly loved, they get a small pass from me because we live in a world of lies under a great veil that has been cast by forces seen and unseen. That is not disputable to me and anyone with two open eyes must be able to see it by now.
And when you live under this veil it becomes perfunctory to find explanations that "fit". And unfortunately many things fit because that's what happens when you are engulfed in lies. You don't know what the lies are obscuring. So even these two numbskulls get a small pass from me, as do retroactively those who "questioned" 9/11 because they had a weird feeling that Bush and our government couldn't be trusted. They were right to ask questions and I was wrong to want to shut them up with Facts. That's doesn't mean we should accept their theories and explanations no matter how shitty. In fact it pretty much means the opposite. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 05:10 PM (lX8VI) 421
418 Slicing the abdomen open of a dude at swords reach isn't any nicer of more fun.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:09 PM (eoQWY) ========= Do you want to know why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You can't savor all the... little emotions. In... you see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are. So in a way, I know your friends better than you ever did. Would you like to know which of them were cowards? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 05:10 PM (GBKbO) 422
>>>I believe it's very easy to take that position after the war had been ended. I think if you were an American living then, and had already faced four years of war and tens of thousands of casualties, you might have a different moral calculus.
There was a large percentage of Americans at the time, who supported outright genocide of the Japanese, and only for what they did at Pearl Harbor. And even the Doolittle raid of Tokyo, very early in the war, had broad support. They were both war crimes, and it has nothing to do with weariness of war. It doesn't require one to be far left to believe this stuff was immoral. Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at April 25, 2024 05:10 PM (NAuoi) 423
Which island (Okinawa?) were there only a handful of civillians lefte alive? They were willing to fight to the death.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) Saipan, where the civilians threw their children off of cliffs and jumped after them, to ensure nobody was captured alive. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 25, 2024 05:10 PM (lTGtQ) 424
Japan also was savage to POWs
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 05:10 PM (fwDg9) 425
Wars where civilians don't die are fantasy.
Posted by: The Not saying they are not, however the decisions about how and when they are casualties is important to us. I am fine with hitting Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the fates of the civilians there were certainly preferable to those of Nanking. It should be something we are mindful of since those things shape our country Posted by: N at April 25, 2024 05:11 PM (RjBju) 426
I don't think anyone is attacking Carlson per se. They are attacking his fallacies and specious arguments.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 05:11 PM (5x1xh) 427
Wars where civilians don't die are fantasy. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (GBKbO) ------- Correct. The reason I'm anti-war now is because we don't want to fight them the way they need to be fought. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 05:11 PM (JeYYB) 428
thanks for the explanation of DIME
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (KRtlO) No worries. It's just a way for military planners to consider and evaluate military operations in a logical and encompassing way. I'm sure some staff officer got a medal for coming up with it. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:11 PM (W/lyH) 429
How about "It was the least worst thing?"
Posted by: fd --- Well, from my brief watch of it, both Rogan and Tucker touched on the idea that there is no "Control History", to which we can refer to see that something didn't really need to be done. That observation alone, should have prompted Tucker to use some moderation. But it didn't. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:12 PM (krQz2) 430
Which island (Okinawa?) were there only a handful of civillians lefte alive? They were willing to fight to the death.
Posted by: jim I've been listening to a lot of stories from Japanese survivors of the war, both military and civilian. Many didn't want to fight to the end, but were forced out of fear or obligation. When you're in a unit and told to "volunteer" for kamikaze duty, or else you and your family back home will suffer...well, look at that, people "volunteer". Civilians get told Americans will shoot them on site, so they need to help the Japanese troops and resist...they don't want to, and are terrified, but when threatened at gunpoint by their own troops...they comply. Sure, though...many officers and senior leaders WERE gung-ho Bushido die hards, but the vast majority were not. It only takes a few leaders, and societal pressure, to make the society as a whole comply, though. Posted by: Military Moron at April 25, 2024 05:12 PM (JCZqz) 431
yes three dots ... that makes sense
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 05:12 PM (s3qiR) 432
I always find it amusing when atomic bombs, napalm, white phosphorus bombs, poison gas and cluster munitions are considered bad but TNT is okay. They are all 'chemical' weapons (atomics being on the fringe). What's the difference to dying from an incendiary bomb to getting blown to pieces by a 500lb bomb? A cannon shell?
Posted by: Ciampino - and it's always the children at April 25, 2024 05:03 PM (qfLjt) Clusters used to be bad. But when we ran out of good shells suddenly they were good again, even though they were particularly useless against men in trenches with overhead cover like the Russians were. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:12 PM (eoQWY) 433
Japan was working on biological warfare against the US where they were going to send their balloons to release plague infected fleas on the mainland. That’s evil.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:12 PM (MNhXM) 434
More Americans killed in the battle for Okinawa than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined .
For anyone with a knowledge of history the FNM reporting on the progress of the WoT was insane. In the end we lost the war, so yes it was all pointless, but...5K losses was presented as more then any war in history at the time...as if Vietnam or Korea had never happened let alone WWII or before. Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 05:13 PM (ibTVg) 435
FFS it took the 2nd a-bomb to get their attention.
Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2024 05:13 PM (PMJuY) 436
"No worries.
It's just a way for military planners to consider and evaluate military operations in a logical and encompassing way. I'm sure some staff officer got a medal for coming up with it. Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:11 PM (W/lyH)" I look forward to the discussion of COIN, so I can beat it with a shovel. Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 05:13 PM (5x1xh) 437
Ace just wants to be cool like Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: tsj017 at April 25, 2024 05:14 PM (xakWh) 438
@401 I've heard it said they were ready to surrender but NOT unconditionally until the bombs dropped.
-------- There was a peace faction in the Imperial Japanese government, and it was scrambling to find a way out of the war. But it was in the minority, and didn't hold the reigns of power. It would be like claiming that the Republicans in the California legislature represented the positions of the California government. In reality, they're a super minority, and completely irrelevant. Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 05:14 PM (JJ2jk) 439
Dunno. War is brutal. When one side engages in brutality of the populace under the aegis of their regime, it is especially evil. Nuking rape.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:08 PM (ynpvh) Nuking is not equal to rape. Pixied again used Greater/less than together, was erased. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:15 PM (ynpvh) 440
FFS it took the 2nd a-bomb to get their attention.
Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2024 05:13 PM (PMJuY) --- Something people can forget in the heat of argument. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:15 PM (krQz2) 441
The reason I'm anti-war now is because we don't want to fight them the way they need to be fought.
Agreed. If you don't plan to do everything you can to win you shouldn't get the right to send one grunt to his death. I do not care how icky winning a war makes a politician feel. If you don't want to fight to win you can either: Resign Make the case to the public for not going to war The in between state of "fighting just enough so the voters don't vote me out and not enough to draw the ire of the NGOs" is absurd. Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2024 05:15 PM (ibTVg) 442
If Germany had had a rational leader, they would have had nukes and used them long before we did.
---- I don't know how they would have enriched Uranium. Something like Oak Ridge would have been bombed to pieces or sabotaged by SAS or similar. Posted by: Ciampino - Vitreous Humour is funny glass #201 at April 25, 2024 05:15 PM (qfLjt) 443
I look forward to the discussion of COIN, so I can beat it with a shovel.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 05:13 PM (5x1xh) So. Just gonna drop the dime? Bwahahaha!!! I crack myself up! Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:15 PM (W/lyH) 444
Which island (Okinawa?) were there only a handful of civillians lefte alive? They were willing to fight to the death.
Posted by: jim Saipan was the first time there were significant civilians. Near the end the GI's were shocked at the women and children and civilians killing themselves and each other. Okinawa had some civilians surrender and survive. Others did the same as Saipan. For Japan the military was planning for civilians to become suicide bombers. They might have stopped doing it sometime if we had invaded, but evidence to the contrary was all the other places. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:16 PM (eoQWY) 445
Ace just wants to be cool like Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: tsj017 at April 25, 2024 05:14 PM (xakWh) --- Not all of us can do what Ben Shapiro does without Helium. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:16 PM (krQz2) 446
419 More Americans killed in the battle for Okinawa than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined .
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:09 PM (MNhXM) How many died at Gettysburg? Antietam? Verdun? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:16 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 25, 2024 05:16 PM (pUI3J) 448
Which island (Okinawa?) were there only a handful of civillians lefte alive? They were willing to fight to the death. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:06 PM (ynpvh) Pretty sure you're thinking Saipan. The one with "Banzai Cliff". Okinawa is actually the first Japanese island which had a decent-sized survival rate for the civilians. But it's because most of the population weren't ethnically Japanese (Ainu?), and didn't have the suicidal motivations the Japs had. The Japs treated them like shit for decades. But there were still enough Japs on Okinawa to scare the shit out of the US when we considered the upcoming casualties for invading the home islands. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2024 05:17 PM (n+4am) 449
At least Tucker does his homework.
Posted by: the SS's drug-recognition exam at April 25, 2024 05:17 PM (gKWVE) 450
Ace just wants to be cool like Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: tsj017 Nobody thinks Ben Shapiro is cool. They just like his sister's tits. Posted by: Biergood at April 25, 2024 05:17 PM (PwgSL) 451
Ace just wants to be cool like Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: tsj017 at April 25, 2024 05:14 PM (xakWh) Ace has a hawt sister? Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:17 PM (W/lyH) 452
NOOD
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 25, 2024 05:17 PM (DRSnL) 453
One of modernity's fundamental misunderstandings is that war is something that just involves battles between opposing military forces. Once you lose sight of the need to compel the other side's entire population to submit, you can end up where Tucker is, claiming that any use of force against anyone other than combatants is immoral. One of the reasons I've become an isolationist is that we no longer understand war, so we can no longer win them. No point in supporting that.
Posted by: The Old Ways Are The Best Ways at April 25, 2024 05:17 PM (2DpKB) 454
424 Japan also was savage to POWs
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 05:10 PM (fwDg9) My dad saw the aftermath of the Bataan death march. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:18 PM (ynpvh) 455
So self defense is now evil. Seems to me we’re pretty close to justifying the confiscation of all firearms if that’s what you believe.
I found it pretty easy to dismiss Tucker Carlson when he went all in for Trump once again. Not even a hint of skepticism despite the fact he called Trump demonic in his private messages that were revealed in the lawsuit with Dominion. Posted by: Benchmark at April 25, 2024 05:18 PM (JHRFC) Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2024 05:18 PM (Jxvt5) 457
437 Ace just wants to be cool like Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: tsj017 I (assume) you're joking here, but I've always thought Ace was pretty authentic in his beliefs. He's waffled a bit here and there (especially with Trump), but it's genuine, reasonable, and most importantly, he still allows dissent and discourse on the site. Shapiro feigns allowing difference of opinion, but in actuality tries to suppress and successful voices too critical of Conservative Inc. Please, Ace, if you're going to sell out...you have to do it for more than Shapiro. Thats all I ask, because fuck that little guy. Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 25, 2024 05:18 PM (JCZqz) 458
In the American perspective, the instruments of national power are: Diplomacy, Information, Military, and Economic (DIME). According to Joint Publication 1, The ability of the US to advance its national interests is dependent on the effectiveness of the United States Government (USG) in employing the...
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 04:53 PM (vtyCZ) D - Do you know that we have a big stick? I - Let us tell you about our big stick M - We have the means to deliver our big stick anywhere in the world. E - Let's get rich Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (rj6Yv) 459
FFS it took the 2nd a-bomb to get their attention.
Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2024 05:13 PM Because the Japanese high command refused to surrender after the first one. They firmly believed that Americans were weak and would not have the guts to invade the home islands which would have generated over a million American casualties. They doubled down after the invasion of Okinawa and really thought they could fight us to a draw and have a peace they could live with. A big part of the issue was the unconditional surrender thing. We told them that their entire government was going to be replaced and the emperor along with that. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (QNSds) 460
Tangentially related. Film starlet of the '40s and '50s, Linda Christian, was known as the Anatomic Bomb.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (FVME7) 461
The astonishing thing is that VP Truman knew nothing about the Manhattan project. That didn't come until he was President.
-------- Stalin knew about it before President Truman did! Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (vtyCZ) 462
"So. Just gonna drop the dime?
Bwahahaha!!! I crack myself up! Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 05:15 PM (W/lyH)" As long as you drop it on Kilcullen's head we're good. I'm more of a Liddell Hart guy. Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (5x1xh) 463
@446 Cool, let’s ad more bodies to the pile.
Posted by: Allen at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (lFLgt) 464
Sure, though...many officers and senior leaders WERE gung-ho Bushido die hards, but the vast majority were not. It only takes a few leaders, and societal pressure, to make the society as a whole comply, though.
Posted by: Military Moron at April 25, 2024 05:12 PM (JCZqz) The lesson of every man, woman, and child the Army had met before 1945 says differently. They fought to the death, starved before giving up, and civilians mostly died. Men even lived on for thirty years in the backwoods of islands not surrendering. They had to take officers from Japan to islands to ORDER them to give up. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:20 PM (eoQWY) 465
@448 But it's because most of the population weren't ethnically Japanese (Ainu?),
-------- The Ainu live in the northernmost of the main islands. I understand there are also some in Siberia. Posted by: junior at April 25, 2024 05:21 PM (JJ2jk) 466
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:16 PM (ynpvh)
Verdin was basically WW1. I think about 11k killed in Gettysburg and Antietam. World Almanacs were my favorite things to read as a kid. Useless facts in my head. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:21 PM (MNhXM) 467
I don't think anyone is attacking Carlson per se. They are attacking his fallacies and specious arguments.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2024 05:11 PM (5x1xh) no, I see a lot of abuse here at Tucker for having those thoughts. Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:22 PM (D7oie) 468
I've always thought there was something 'hinky' about Tucker. The Gnostics claimed to have 'special knowledge' too.
Posted by: Debbie at April 25, 2024 05:22 PM (vPplw) 469
Tucker's position on the nukes reflects a distinct lack of intellectual seriousness.
My earlier departure from Tucker seems like I was ahead of the game. Goodnight Tucker. No longer worth listening to. Posted by: Black JEM at April 25, 2024 05:23 PM (UVyKP) 470
There were 9 days from Hiroshima and 6 days from Nagasaki before Japan announced its surrender and the another two weeks for the ceremony
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (0OdlD) 471
Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:22 PM (D7oie)
You are correct and he deserves all he gets. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (MNhXM) 472
466 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:16 PM (ynpvh)
Verdin was basically WW1. I think about 11k killed in Gettysburg and Antietam. World Almanacs were my favorite things to read as a kid. Useless facts in my head. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:21 PM (MNhXM) Yes, Verdun was WW1, with something like 900K casualties on both sides total. Yes, I know that casualties are more than just deaths (i.e. wounded, captured, missing). Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (ynpvh) 473
Men even lived on for thirty years in the backwoods of islands not surrendering. They had to take officers from Japan to islands to ORDER them to give up.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:20 PM (eoQWY) One man. His name was Hiro Onoda. He had an interesting story. waving a bloody shirt does not make your revenge justified. It just gets blood spattered everywhere. Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (D7oie) 474
Wars where civilians don't die are fantasy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (GBKbO) --- This is like how I realized that I *was* in some sense more authoritarian than a lefty. They believe the final state is for everybody to be autonomous, thus there is no need for authority. They may believe that the Leaders have to run me through a ringer to get me fit to enter this world (in Marx's head), but ultimately it's for NO AUTHORITY. Well, the end sounds great, but you're kind of making a point that authority is pragmatically necessary in purging mankind of dependence on authority. My acceptance that 1) authorities may always exist, 2) they should observe your civil rights--but you still have to defer to them, in some form, is what lefties consider "authoritarianism". That the world is not perfect and authority plays a role in that imperfect world...IS "authoritarianism" to the people that have convinced themselves that they need to seize control to save us from the pragmatic view that we may always need authority for law and order. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (krQz2) 475
When a man turns 50 years old he must become an expert in one of two things: WWII history or smoked meats.
Posted by: I have a Weber gas three burner at April 25, 2024 05:26 PM (jAber) 476
You are correct and he deserves all he gets.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (MNhXM) "he was better when he was controlled by Fox, the cable company that hates me and censors my ideals" is a terrible position to argue from. Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:27 PM (D7oie) 477
Tucker is Pat Buchanan, Jr. I don't see the philosophy as isolationist. It is keep our "investment" in the United States so that the return comes back to us.
I note how Congress can't find funds for its own citizens, but will pour billions into the coffers of other nations - with some skimmed off the top for the "policy makers". On Nuking Japan - Tucker is just wrong. Its easy to look back 80 years and think "I could have won it differently". That is just garbage. Think of the harm an additional 1million-1.5million dead US servicemen would have inflicted on our nation. Invading Japan without nuclear weapons would have been ruinous. On Israel/Hamas - Hamas are cave men with rockets. The only thing they get is "bonk bonk". Let the grups bonk-bonk the cavemen. Posted by: Jake Speed at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (Vu1jV) 478
I have read 2 books on the Rape of Nanking
I got no more sympathy to Fudal Japan than Muslims conquests Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (fwDg9) 479
D - Do you know that we have a big stick?
I - Let us tell you about our big stick M - We have the means to deliver our big stick anywhere in the world. Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 05:19 PM (rj6Yv) --- The Paolo, he can practice the DIM. Posted by: The Paolo at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (krQz2) 480
309 Posted by: sven at April 25, 2024 04:54 PM (X0I7i)
If targeting civilians is wrong when our enemies do it, at least have the balls to admit it's wrong when WE do it. This does not make someone "far left." There's lot of room to disagree over how WW2 should have been handled, but conservatives should at least have some principles involved in their positions. Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (NAuoi) 481
Tucker's position on the nukes reflects a distinct lack of intellectual seriousness.
My earlier departure from Tucker seems like I was ahead of the game. Goodnight Tucker. No longer worth listening to. Posted by: Black JEM at April 25, 2024 05:23 PM (UVyKP) I am very concerned about the flagrant way the West has crossed red lines versus a nuclear power and risked escalating to a possible mass nuclear war. I am disgusted that the incident shows that the US is not able to sustain a war for our potential survival due to insufficient weapons and munitions and industry yet diplomatically works toward one..or two...or three wars. People should be hung for this situation, it is treason. It doesn't follow that Nagasaki was a bad choice. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (eoQWY) 482
You are correct and he deserves all he gets.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:24 PM (MNhXM) "he was better when he was controlled by Fox, the cable company that hates me and censors my ideals" is a terrible position to argue from. Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:27 PM (D7oie) --- It doesn't have to be he was "controlled" by Fox. He just knew he had people he had to justify his content in front of. I don't think it was Fox, I think it was the knowledge that you had to have a solid line on what you were presenting. Posted by: The Paolo at April 25, 2024 05:30 PM (krQz2) 483
Men even lived on for thirty years in the backwoods of islands not surrendering. They had to take officers from Japan to islands to ORDER them to give up.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:20 PM (eoQWY) One man. His name was Hiro Onoda. He had an interesting story. waving a bloody shirt does not make your revenge justified. It just gets blood spattered everywhere. Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (D7oie) No, they did that for many islands in 1945 and following. Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:31 PM (eoQWY) 484
World Almanacs were my favorite things to read as a kid. Useless facts in my head.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:21 PM (MNhXM) You should see my collection. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 05:32 PM (mggQ3) 485
There was a faction within the J War Cabinet that was angling for peace towards the end if the war. The bombings allowed Japan to surrender without losing face. Science had defeated Japan. Science!
Else they’d have welcomed the mother of all invasions. Posted by: Rex B at April 25, 2024 05:33 PM (Mn5g+) 486
My acceptance that 1) authorities may always exist, 2) they should observe your civil rights--but you still have to defer to them, in some form, is what lefties consider "authoritarianism".
[ . . . ] Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 05:25 PM (krQz2) I don't know which decade you are living in, but this is no longer what the lefties consider authoritarianism. Maybe some birkenstock wearing granola head who still contributes to NPR for the stylish totebags, but the political left now wants deference to authority, as long as it is the right authority. Your argument is Hume, but IIRC Hume is a touch more complex than what you lay out. Hume also calls for social contract and not merely submission. Spooner is far more granular about formalizing social contracts for the community, though I would say he has not been shown to be able to scale to society level in general and relies on individual interraction. Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (D7oie) 487
The A bombs had a secondary effect in preventing the Cold War from going nuclear, IMO. The horror of what happened in Japan was enough to stay everyone's hands, I like to think.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 25, 2024 05:35 PM (vHfLU) Posted by: butch at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (4nut+) 489
Go dig a bomb shelter, Chicken Little. Since you are so cock-sure nuclear war is inevitable. JFC, it’s like talking to a Leftist in the 1980s.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 05:05 PM (mggQ3) you mean the most evil man in the world with an incompetent army who is bound to lose won't use nukes like every cold war simulation indicated they would? Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:37 PM (D7oie) 490
Tucker is losing it, spinning from reality. He's been all over in his career and, at 54, is completely untethered. He lacks definition & a solid conviction of anything and he's making poor choices.
Business Insider, 10/10/2017, 'Harvey Weinstein has donated over $1 million to Democrats since 2000 – here are some of the biggest names. (Very helpful chart, not linked here.) In part, "Since the 2000 election cycle, Weinstein has donated nearly $1 million in his own name in addition to collecting and providing roughly $1.5 million as a part of "bundled" donations, which the Center for Responsive Politics defines as contributions provided by "people with friends in high places who, after bumping against personal contribution limits, turn to those friends, associates, and, well, anyone who's willing to give, and deliver the checks to the candidate." Tucker, who worked for Weinstein decades ago, goes on Rogan's show & talks about him. Newsweek, 'Tucker Carlson Recalls Working for Harvey Weinstein—'He Was a Pig' published Apr 22, 2024. Now today we have: NBC News, 'Harvey Weinstein's 2020 rape conviction overturned by New York appeals court' $ or not, I'd be watching my back. Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 25, 2024 05:38 PM (NFX2v) 491
If targeting civilians is wrong when our enemies do it, at least have the balls to admit it's wrong when WE do it. This does not make someone "far left."
There's lot of room to disagree over how WW2 should have been handled, but conservatives should at least have some principles involved in their positions. Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at April 25, 2024 05:29 PM (NAuoi) First we weren’t targeting civilians. We were targeting military targets that unfortunately civilians are present. Second your moral equivalence of our enemies actions compared to ours is so ridiculously off base I shouldn’t even be addressing you. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:40 PM (MNhXM) 492
Just think about the fact that we only had two bombs. If Hirohito hadn't had his epiphany, the war would have continued.
Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (QB+5g) 493
tucker lost me when he only showed a few minutes of the Jan 6 videos. He had an opportunity to change the world and poured water on his powder.
Posted by: iandeal at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (rm+nU) 494
Just think about the fact that we only had two bombs. If Hirohito hadn't had his epiphany, the war would have continued.
Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2024 05:41 PM (QB+5g) We would have had five to seven more within 6-8 months. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:42 PM (MNhXM) 495
No, they did that for many islands in 1945 and following.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 25, 2024 05:31 PM (eoQWY) no, one man made it decades - only one man. The others went home when they got the word. Onoda got in his head that defeat was impossible and all the reports were disinformation. He had been an intelligence agent who had been chosen for "behind the line" sabotage tasks, and he decided to carry them out faithfully. It is an interesting book. Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 05:43 PM (D7oie) 496
I liked Tucker. It's a shame he lost his gig at Fox -- it was the only thing consistently worth watching. And I honestly haven't listened to his podcast. Since I'm on the computer 9 hours a day, going back to it after dinner seems an atrocious waste of time. But I did see the blurb on Rogan, where he proclaimed use of nukes to end WWII an inhuman thing. I don't know that it's a leftist slant to his thinking, or that it's just a stupidly over-simplistic take -- akin to an AI bot saying, "Let the world burn; I'm not going to say 'ni**er' in order to defuse the bomb, because that's a bad word." I always thought Carlson to be more nuanced than that.
Posted by: red speck at April 25, 2024 05:45 PM (0Id0S) 497
The argument FOR nuking two cities in Japan was "If we don't do this, tens of thousands more US soldiers will die....."
We'll never know that, of course. But that's IDENTICAL to the "If we don't save Ukraine, Putin will march on (pick your city) Paris, London, Utrecht, New York, Pittsburgh......" See how those arguments work? The Powers-That-Be have always, always, always, used BoogeyMan. Scare you sh*tless tactics. Why? Because it works, as it did in WWII, so in Iraq, then Covid 19, now Ukraine. A bit more cold, hard, flinty-eyed examination is in order, no? Posted by: dad29 at April 25, 2024 05:48 PM (yLOsE) 498
Tucker seems to have lost his moorings; that or there is a serious, deep state op out there to make the thinkers reject him; or perhaps something else. As was stated in the movie, Sniper or something, when they were speaking with the old sniper armorer expert guy who could barely see: " you see that there are all kinds of schemes the govt is carrying out and they have to fool a whole bunch of people to do it; if you think you've got it all figured out - they already have you".
There is a whole lot we don't know, and this group of Morons knows a lot. Collectively, probably the most well, accurately-informed group of strangers in the country if not the planet. Posted by: Bonecrusher at April 25, 2024 05:50 PM (ec6Sw) 499
Sad I missed this thread. Tucker is 100% wrong on this but the dude is awesome.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 25, 2024 05:50 PM (eQRY8) 500
491 Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 05:40 PM (MNhXM)
Dropping a nuke onto the center of a city is by definition targeting civilians. I don't see myself moral-equivalencing here. If one is going to say "x is wrong" I think that statement should be equally applicable to anyone engaging in "x." I haven't excused anything the Japanese did. But all of you people are doing the exact same thing you sneer at liberals for doing, when they say, "it's not wrong when WE do it." But you're too blind to see it. So if bombing entire cities is OK, is there a line in war we should not cross? Should we have rules? I'm not talking about what the enemy does. Should we, who consider ourselves the "good guys," have some kind of boundary? Or, since they threw the first punch, is it anything goes? Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at April 25, 2024 06:04 PM (NAuoi) Of Course: One of LA Soros DA George Gascon's Top Employees -- the Attorney "For Ethics and Integrity Operations" -- Illegally Accessed Police Files on Political OpponentsHow much degradation and brutalization by evil communists can this country withstand? Note she illegally read the records of opponents of his former boss, who was the LA Sheriff, not the opponents of George Gascon. (Although, of course, they share the same list of enemies.) Jen VanLaar from Red State:One of LA County District Attorney George Gascon's top employees, Assistant District Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations Diana Teran, has been arrested on 11 felony charges related to the "unauthorized use of data from confidential, statutorily-protected peace officer files."It's so Soviet that the employee in charge of criminal spying on political opponents has the title "Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations." Perfect. According to a press release from California Attorney General Rob Bonta, Teran "accessed computer data including numerous confidential peace officer files in 2018, while working as a Constitutional Policing Advisor at the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, and, after joining the LADA in January 2021, impermissibly used that data at the LADA." ... Starting in June 2018, when Alex Villanueva made a good showing in the primary election for LA County Sheriff against his former boss, then-incumbent Sheriff Jim McDonnell, Teran improperly accessed and downloaded the personnel files of Villanueva and other LASD employees who supported his campaign. Sources say this was done at the direction of county Inspector General Max Huntsman, who is also currently under investigation by AG Bonta. Teran's actions ramped up in November 2018 when underdog Villanueva unseated McDonnell, marking the first time an incumbent Sheriff lost re-election in 104 years. The weekend before Villanueva was sworn in, according to sources, Huntsman sent Teran into the Sheriff's office with an external hard drive and instructions to gather additional personnel files. About a month after Villanueva took office he got wind of what had happened and alerted the California AG's office and the FBI. The FBI told Villanueva's office they'd provide technical assistance but there was nothing they could really do, and the AG's office gave Villanueva's office the go-ahead to investigate themselves.Teran has been accused of political misconduct against Villaneuva before. See the article for details. But basically, Teran held off on announcing the office was not prosecuting alleged charges against Villaneuva's cops until after the election, so that the public wrongly believed he was running a dirty shop. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Of course
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 03:15 PM (2UnvF) 2
It's who they are
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (N1tpc) 3
BabylonBee: Palestine Protester Tries To Argue With Skinhead But They Just Agree On Everything
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (RHGPo) 4
Laws are for the little people. Not the ruling class.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (N1tpc) 5
Latest.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 25, 2024 03:17 PM (a/dOO) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 03:17 PM (63Dwl) 7
One of LA County District Attorney George Gascon's top employees, Assistant District Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations Diana Teran, has been arrested on 11 felony charges related to the "unauthorized use of data from confidential, statutorily-protected peace officer files."
++++ Time for a repeat of Mannix's Iron Law of Job Titles: Anyone who has the word "ethic" or any of its derivatives in his job title is a monster. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:17 PM (HnUIn) 8
Time for a repeat of Mannix's Iron Law of Job Titles:
Anyone who has the word "ethic" or any of its derivatives in his job title is a monster. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:17 PM (HnUIn) *fistbump* Peter Singer. Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 03:17 PM (PiwSw) 9
dem indicted by other dems? Wonder who she pissed off.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (2UnvF) 10
Damn it, we really are a third world country.
I use to think better of us, but then again I voted for Bush..and McCain. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (JeYYB) 11
It's LA county of course there were shenanigans.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (QNSds) 12
So… this happened almost 6 years ago and is only now coming out?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (Hkcdp) 13
It's so Soviet that the employee in charge of criminal spying on political opponents has the title "Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations." Perfect.
Everything is a mindfuck. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (R4t5M) 14
About a month after Villanueva took office he got wind of what had happened and alerted the California AG's office and the FBI. The FBI told Villanueva's office they'd provide technical assistance but there was nothing they could really do, and the AG's office gave Villanueva's office the go-ahead to investigate themselves.
++++ LOL. If a DeSantis-friendly guy had done exactly the same thing, the feds would be crawling all over the place. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (HnUIn) 15
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Posted by: Oddbob at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (/y8xj) 16
But basically, Teran held off on announcing the office was not prosecuting alleged charges against Villaneuva's cops until after the election, so that the public wrongly believed he was running a dirty shop.
++++ Sounds like election interference... Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (HnUIn) Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:19 PM (di6C2) Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 03:19 PM (OaZlZ) 19
15 New browser test...
Posted by: Oddbob at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (/y8xj) ----- I'm praying for you. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:19 PM (JeYYB) 20
13 It's so Soviet that the employee in charge of criminal spying on political opponents has the title "Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations." Perfect.
Everything is a mindfuck. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (R4t5M) Not worse that the Secretary of State running the election of her own run for governor. Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:20 PM (di6C2) 21
It's so Soviet that the employee in charge of criminal spying on political opponents has the title "Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations." Perfect.
----------- Atomic Tranny DogBoy would make an perfect "Ethics and Integrity Operations Czar" for The Junta. Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 03:20 PM (EDbIo) 22
Villanueva was one of the few sane officials during the lockdowns, refusing to enforce the more ridiculous mandates.
I think he was also pretty strong on 2A as well. It really sucked when he lost reelection. Posted by: Grudge Harbor at April 25, 2024 03:20 PM (hCzfy) 23
"How much degradation and brutalization by evil communists can this country withstand?"
And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?" They only answer, "more, more, more, more" . . . . Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 03:21 PM (iFTx/) 24
It's so Soviet that the employee in charge of criminal spying on political opponents has the title "Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations." Perfect.
------ Let's square the circle. How'd she get caught. Who'd she piss off to have anyone looking into this. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:21 PM (dGCAG) 25
Why is it when the FBI does this (while falsely claiming Section 702) that nobody ever gets arrested ?
Wasn't it last year that it was revealed the FBI misused intelligence database in a mere 278,000 searches .. and not one single arrest or indictment Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:21 PM (RHGPo) 26
20 Not worse that the Secretary of State running the election of her own run for governor.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:20 PM (di6C2) ======= Hey, at least in our system the SoS got a slap on the wrist for effectively turning off signature verification on mail in ballots...10 months after the election. The justice system works! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:21 PM (GBKbO) 27
It's so Soviet that the employee in charge of criminal spying on political opponents has the title "Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations." Perfect.
==== More properly, Commissar of Ethics. Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 03:21 PM (RIvkX) 28
Nothing will happen.
No one will be punished No problem. Republicans are RACIST. Continue please. Posted by: Czech Chick at April 25, 2024 03:21 PM (I6NNh) 29
28 Nothing will happen.
No one will be punished No problem. Republicans are RACIST. Continue please. Posted by: Czech Chick at April 25, 2024 03:21 PM (I6NNh) ======= Don't forget that Republicans hate the gays. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:22 PM (GBKbO) 30
BabylonBee: Palestine Protester Tries To Argue With Skinhead But They Just Agree On Everything
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (RHGPo) That's not true. Skinheads actually believe the things they say. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:22 PM (dGCAG) 31
Boy I hate woke technical language.
"There is one master node and two or more slave nodes in the cluster" is way too triggering. So now it's stupid shit like "There is one primary node and two or more worker nodes in the cluster." Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:23 PM (HnUIn) 32
I had already lost faith in this country by then, but after Joe the Plumber *asked Obama a question* and a day later the media published his convictions or drivers license suspensions or whatever, I knew sure as fuck we were done done done.
The Left hasn't changed a bit or "gone crazy" since then. This is what they are. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:23 PM (RQM8P) 33
"How much degradation and brutalization by evil communists can this country withstand?"
Decades more. If history has shown us anything, it's that well-connected and -organized commies can hold onto power for a very long time. China? Going on 80 years, including about 50 of the most repressive communism on the planet. Even the disorganized lunatics (Castro, Pol Pot, Idi, etc) manage to cling to power for much longer that you'd expect. Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 03:24 PM (iFTx/) 34
That's not true. Skinheads actually believe the things they say.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:22 PM (dGCAG) I dunno, the one I ran into was pretty stupid. Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:24 PM (di6C2) 35
31 Boy I hate woke technical language.
"There is one master node and two or more slave nodes in the cluster" is way too triggering. So now it's stupid shit like "There is one Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:23 PM (HnUIn) ======== Suggested edit. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:24 PM (GBKbO) 36
BabylonBee: Palestine Protester Tries To Argue With Skinhead But They Just Agree On Everything
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (RHGPo) That's not true. Skinheads actually believe the things they say. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:22 PM (dGCAG) And besides, Ryan Long already did this joke, months ago. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:24 PM (dGCAG) 37
"There is one primary node and two or more worker nodes in the cluster."
... just how does that fit in with proper Communist ideology in a workers paradise ? Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (RHGPo) 38
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:23 PM (HnUIn)
Wait until the Left finds out about the Masters Degree. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (RQM8P) 39
This is probably the worst rendition of a banana republic I've ever seen. No tanks in the streets. No strongman in an olive green jump suit, a sidearm and cool beret. No bodies swinging from lampposts. No fires burning in the capitol city.
Tyranny by judicial decree sucks. I think it should be more "hands on." Knives and tire irons instead of politically motivated lawsuits. I pine for the old traditions... Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (Q4IgG) 40
a leftist woman is unsurprising. ethics and integrity aren't their strong suits.
Posted by: x at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (Yfotv) 41
Max Huntsman is an American attorney who became the first Inspector General of Los Angeles County,
------- So not like Sargent Shriver? Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (vtyCZ) 42
That's not true. Skinheads actually believe the things they say.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:22 PM (dGCAG) I dunno, the one I ran into was pretty stupid. Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:24 PM (di6C2) Well sure, of course he's stupid, I'm just saying he believes in his cause. He's not a paid Soros operative, like these college protesters are. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (dGCAG) 43
39 This is probably the worst rendition of a banana republic I've ever seen. No tanks in the streets. No strongman in an olive green jump suit, a sidearm and cool beret. No bodies swinging from lampposts. No fires burning in the capitol city.
Tyranny by judicial decree sucks. I think it should be more "hands on." Knives and tire irons instead of politically motivated lawsuits. I pine for the old traditions... Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (Q4IgG) ====== So, which is the best Banana Republic? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO) 44
Suggested edit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:24 PM (GBKbO) ++++ Nah. There is one People's Kommissar node and two or more Loyal Comrade nodes! Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (HnUIn) 45
"There is one master node and two or more slave nodes in the cluster" is way too triggering. So now it's stupid shit like "There is one primary node and two or more worker nodes in the cluster."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:23 PM (HnUIn) You notice how their language for slave is 'worker'? Not secondary or support. Or even power. Also 'primary' for master. Primary, first among equals. They look at circuits or mechanical designs like politics. In their minds they are the bosses and the slaves are their workers. They just want the names changed. Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (di6C2) 46
44 There is one People's Kommissar node and two or more Loyal Comrade nodes!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (HnUIn) ======== Does that imply different classes?! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO) 47
Her last name is “Teran?” Sounds awfully close to “Tehran” to me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:27 PM (9yWhg) 48
You notice how their language for slave is 'worker'? Not secondary or support. Or even power. Also 'primary' for master. Primary, first among equals.
They look at circuits or mechanical designs like politics. In their minds they are the bosses and the slaves are their workers. They just want the names changed. Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (di6C2) ++++ I don't think they're thinking that much about it. They were ordered to wokify the language, so they did it. I see lots of options. "Primary" and "Secondary" "Coordinator" and "Worker" My favorite I have ever seen is "Primary" and "Minion." Never mind that the two don't even go together. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (HnUIn) 49
At this point will it make any difference?
Posted by: Disgusted at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (Z8Yh2) 50
Suggested edit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:24 PM (GBKbO) Nah, they want to fit in the paradigm. They want to be the master cylinder, but they want to change the names of them being a master directing the slaves. Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (di6C2) 51
Another democrat broad who just does what she wants, when she wants and goes out of her way to fuck other people over while blaming everything on The Old White Man.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (R/m4+) 52
39 This is probably the worst rendition of a banana republic I've ever seen. No tanks in the streets. No strongman in an olive green jump suit, a sidearm and cool beret. No bodies swinging from lampposts. No fires burning in the capitol city.
Tyranny by judicial decree sucks. I think it should be more "hands on." Knives and tire irons instead of politically motivated lawsuits. I pine for the old traditions... Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (Q4IgG) -------- Lol Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (JeYYB) 53
43 39 This is probably the worst rendition of a banana republic I've ever seen. No tanks in the streets. No strongman in an olive green jump suit, a sidearm and cool beret. No bodies swinging from lampposts. No fires burning in the capitol city.
Tyranny by judicial decree sucks. I think it should be more "hands on." Knives and tire irons instead of politically motivated lawsuits. I pine for the old traditions... Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (Q4IgG) ====== So, which is the best Banana Republic? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO) __________ https://www.pinterest.com/pin/241575967508140061/ Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (iFTx/) 54
This is probably the worst rendition of a banana republic I've ever seen. No tanks in the streets. No strongman in an olive green jump suit, a sidearm and cool beret. No bodies swinging from lampposts. No fires burning in the capitol city.
Tyranny by judicial decree sucks. I think it should be more "hands on." Knives and tire irons instead of politically motivated lawsuits. I pine for the old traditions... Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (Q4IgG) ++++ You'll get them. Eventually. We're still in the "keeping up appearances" stage. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:29 PM (HnUIn) 55
Don't turn around, wa-uh-oh (yeah-yeah)
Der Kommissar's in town, wa-uh-oh You're in his eye and you'll know why The more you live, the faster you will die Alles klar, Herr Kommissar? Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 25, 2024 03:29 PM (NtVYv) 56
At the very least this piece of crap should be disbarred. Of course even if she is the Dems will find her a new cushy job where she can continue being a political operative
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 03:29 PM (aX7Uj) 57
Wasn't Banana Republic a clothing brand? They still around?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 25, 2024 03:29 PM (di6C2) Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 03:29 PM (MNhXM) 59
Don't forget the chest full of medals.
Posted by: Disgusted at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (Z8Yh2) 60
Laws are for the little people. Not the ruling class.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (N1tpc) ... Can I get an exception here? Posted by: Robert Reich at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (z/ifB) 61
49 At this point will it make any difference?
Posted by: Disgusted at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (Z8Yh2) ----- Shut up, Hillary. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (JeYYB) 62
My favorite I have ever seen is "Primary" and "Minion." Never mind that the two don't even go together.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (HnUIn) Next it'll be Dark Prince and Legion Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (RQM8P) 63
"Assistant District Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations Diana Teran, has been arrested."
Lol. Ethics and Integrity. Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (NpAcC) Posted by: RHCP at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (og5mY) 65
Time for a repeat of Mannix's Iron Law of Job Titles:
Anyone who has the word "ethic" or any of its derivatives in his job title is a monster. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:17 PM (HnUIn) *fistbump* Peter Singer. Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes Fauci's wife, too, IIRC. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:31 PM (9yWhg) 66
Taren Capel was a scientist who tried to instigate a robot revolution on Kaldor in the late 29th century. https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Taren_Capel Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 03:31 PM (63Dwl) 67
There is one master node and two or more slave nodes in the cluster" is way too triggering. So now it's stupid shit like "There is one primary node and two or more worker nodes in the cluster."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:23 PM (HnUIn) ... Nobody's car brakes are going to work in about two years. Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2024 03:31 PM (z/ifB) Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 25, 2024 03:32 PM (KbuES) 69
> So, which is the best Banana Republic?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO) ___________ Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Botswana all were good ones. Panama too. Haiti's probably the "best" Banana Republic today. "Best" being subjective. Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:32 PM (Q4IgG) 70
At the moment we are in the Banana in Your Tailpipe Republic stage
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 03:32 PM (aX7Uj) 71
Personhole.
Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2024 03:32 PM (RH/fb) 72
So, which is the best Banana Republic?
Chiquita Posted by: RHCP at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (og5mY) I thought you guys liked boobs. Posted by: Tropicana at April 25, 2024 03:33 PM (z/ifB) 73
Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 03:33 PM (MNhXM) 74
I assumed that was the whole point of people striving for those positions, so what's the problem?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:33 PM (9Ct69) 75
So, which is the best Banana Republic?
------------ "The Banana-in-the-Tailpipe Republic, of course, silly." /obligatory George Takei Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 03:33 PM (EDbIo) 76
Another democrat broad who just does what she wants, when she wants and goes out of her way to fuck other people over while blaming everything on The Old White Man.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (R/m4+) Squad member Cori Boosh is being challenge for her House seat by the guy who is currently the St. Louis County Prosecutor. There was a headline on one of the local rags today: See which billionaires are supporting each candidate. I thought "well that's odd, acknowledging black pols are being backed by billionaires." But the more I think about it, the more I assume Bell's (the challenger) billionaires must be more darkly sinister than Boosh's, in the eyes of the media. I wonder if Musk is one of them. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:34 PM (dGCAG) 77
69 > So, which is the best Banana Republic?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO) ___________ Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Botswana all were good ones. Panama too. Haiti's probably the "best" Banana Republic today. "Best" being subjective. Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:32 PM (Q4IgG) ____________ "Fluck you!" -- Burma Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 03:34 PM (iFTx/) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:34 PM (9yWhg) 79
So, which is the best Banana Republic?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO) ... Maybe we can get jobs running the plant for Dole or like a rubber plantation or something. Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2024 03:34 PM (z/ifB) Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 03:35 PM (vr92T) 81
So, which is the best Banana Republic?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO) In spite of everything, I'd still say the United States of America. I don't want to live anywhere else, all my stuff's here. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:36 PM (dGCAG) 82
How about the President's wife receiving the FBI files on political opponents?
That's still acceptable, right? Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:36 PM (yikga) 83
So, which is the best Banana Republic?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO) ++++ Gaddafi's Libya was pretty functional until ValJar decided to topple it. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (HnUIn) 84
Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 03:33 PM (MNhXM) -------------- After Dear Leader Chairman Xi is "elected" in '28, his first Executive Order will be to rename the USA to "New North Korea." /only half-joking Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (EDbIo) 85
This is actually kind of surprising.
CA Atty General Rob Bonta is a full-blown leftist partisan hack who's trying to impress Newsom so he can be his "wingman" when Newsom inherits the Oval Office. As CA AG, Bonta is also the successor to Kamala, so he has very big shoes to fill, though he will never match her in either eloquence or dick-handling skill. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (nOjd9) 86
"Assistant District Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations Diana Teran, has been arrested."
... nothing less that seppuku is acceptable. Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (RHGPo) 87
How about the President's wife receiving the FBI files on political opponents?
That's still acceptable, right? Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:36 PM (yikga) ++++ Depends on the president. Posted by: The FBI at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (HnUIn) 88
So Biden is up in Syracuse today talking about $6b in chip manufacturing grants to build plants in Syracuse and Boise, Idaho. Why do I think this will end up being a boondoggle?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (aX7Uj) 89
Micron got a huge Federal bribe to build a microchip plant in NY.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (MNhXM) 90
Assistant District Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations Diana Teran, has been arrested."
Lol. Ethics and Integrity. Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (NpAcC) I'm guessing more like District Attorney of Interest and Ethnicity Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:38 PM (RQM8P) 91
Take the Gascon ... hell NO ... take the gas pipe
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:38 PM (RHGPo) 92
New browser test...
----- I'm praying for you. Actually, it's much worse than just a new browser. I'm going over to the Dark Side. My Windows laptop is getting long in the tooth plus the track pad is dying and the replacement is an ostentatiously large MacBook. I'm going to have to grow a neckbeard and starting hanging out at indie coffee shops (Starbuck's is far too bougie for us Mac users, you know) taking up the largest table by myself. Posted by: Oddbob at April 25, 2024 03:38 PM (/y8xj) 93
Haiti's probably the "best" Banana Republic today.
"Best" being subjective. Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:32 PM (Q4IgG) ------ When your front runner for President is called "Cannibal" you're an excellent Banana Republic. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:38 PM (JeYYB) 94
So Biden is up in Syracuse today talking about $6b in chip manufacturing grants to build plants in Syracuse and Boise, Idaho. Why do I think this will end up being a boondoggle?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (aX7Uj) ++++ Because it will be a boondoggle. If the plants get built, they will cost a fortune and never provide enough state revenue to justify the cost and if they don't get built, it will surprise precisely nobody. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:38 PM (HnUIn) 95
This is actually kind of surprising.
CA Atty General Rob Bonta is a full-blown leftist partisan hack who's trying to impress Newsom so he can be his "wingman" when Newsom inherits the Oval Office. As CA AG, Bonta is also the successor to Kamala, so he has very big shoes to fill, though he will never match her in either eloquence or dick-handling skill. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (nOjd9) I think the FBI was involved right? Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (MNhXM) 96
Gaddafi's Libya was pretty functional until ValJar decided to topple it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (HnUIn) -------------- Huh, was that President ValJar behind (pardon the pun) that? I thought it was SoS Killary ... Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (EDbIo) 97
Depends on the president.
Posted by: The FBI at April 25, 2024 03:37 PM (HnUIn) We know that, the question was, what about giving files to his wife! Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (dGCAG) 98
Mmm. Chips.
Posted by: joey biden at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (vtyCZ) Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (RHGPo) 100
FFS...
@Breaking911 2m BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls." Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (IG4Id) 101
BabylonBee: Palestine Protester Tries To Argue With Skinhead But They Just Agree On Everything
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (RHGPo) That's not true. Skinheads actually believe the things they say. --- Except the skinhead is an FBI agent ... Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (yikga) 102
What the Left is willing to do to protect their own and with no others was bared with the Lois Lerner saga. And, as par for the course, the Right just sucked it up, without further ado.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 03:40 PM (F6UFz) 103
Republic… the most misapplied term in the world… more so than that “ democracy” word being flogged of late..
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:40 PM (PCK5/) 104
From Syracuse Biden goes to a fundraiser at Michael Douglas's house in Westchester. Probably be flying directly over my head within the next hour. I'll make sure to go outside and hold my middle fingers up in the air.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 03:40 PM (aX7Uj) 105
George Gascon played a leading role destroying civic peace and public safety in San Francisco and when he was done, the junta re-deployed him to LA to do the same thing there.
Because our city's leaders are people from here who care about here. Sure, Jan. Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 03:40 PM (RIvkX) 106
Next it'll be Dark Prince and Legion
Posted by: ... Certain UNIX background processes have been called "daemons" forever, so it would fit. Posted by: mikeski at April 25, 2024 03:40 PM (dazzz) 107
Here in 2024 you can get your banana removed and then another one put back on if you change your mind.
We are a Banana Re-pubic. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:40 PM (RQM8P) 108
100 FFS...
@Breaking911 2m BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls." Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (IG4Id) ========= The phone call is about wantonly and gleefully killing a black man for no reason, right? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:40 PM (GBKbO) 109
101 BabylonBee: Palestine Protester Tries To Argue With Skinhead But They Just Agree On Everything
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (RHGPo) That's not true. Skinheads actually believe the things they say. --- Except the skinhead is an FBI agent ... Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (yikga) ======= He does believe the things he says, though. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:41 PM (GBKbO) 110
@Breaking911 2m
BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls." Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (IG4Id) +++++ WHAT?? Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 03:41 PM (F6UFz) 111
Except the skinhead is an FBI agent ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (yikga) Not all of them. Four out of five, probably, but that one guy... he really believes that stuff. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:41 PM (dGCAG) 112
111 Except the skinhead is an FBI agent ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (yikga) Not all of them. Four out of five, probably, but that one guy... he really believes that stuff. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:41 PM (dGCAG) ======== Why do you assume the FBI agents don't believe that stuff? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO) 113
@Breaking911 2m
BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls." Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (IG4Id) ++++ Start the timer on "White House spokesperson walks back Biden's statement about ..." Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn) 114
88 So Biden is up in Syracuse today talking about $6b in chip manufacturing grants to build plants in Syracuse and Boise, Idaho. Why do I think this will end up being a boondoggle?
... these aren't a giveaway, the feds want to be a partner Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:42 PM (RHGPo) 115
100 FFS...
@Breaking911 2m BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls." Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (IG4Id) ------- hhhahahahahaaaaah I'm changing my Banana Rebuplic vote to America. We, as a constituancy, have done a good job of not making eye contact with the fact our President is completely in the throws of dementia. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:42 PM (JeYYB) 116
Fabulist Joe, at it again…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:42 PM (PCK5/) 117
From Syracuse Biden goes to a fundraiser at Michael Douglas's house in Westchester.
Posted by: Smell the Glove CZJ Is waaaaaaay too old for him, fortunately. But Hunter better keep his grubby mitts off her. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (9yWhg) 118
The telephone call that Biden receives says "sniff the little girls Joe, sniff them now"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (aX7Uj) 119
So Biden's been an astronaut, a fireman, a doctor and now he's been married to a police officer. And that's just since March.
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (RQM8P) 120
Gaddafi's Libya was pretty functional until ValJar decided to topple it.
- Not only functional but IIRC had turned a corner and was outright cooperating with the U.S. But, same as always, Gaddafi had decided to move to a gold standard. WHOOPS WHOOPSIES!!! Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (9Ct69) 121
@Breaking911 2m
BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls." Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (IG4Id) They were never found, eaten by cannibals Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (NtVYv) 122
This reminds that it's probably time for someone to poke the hornets nest in Fulton County GA.
We haven't heard much lately of the Dems attacking each other. Is there some sort of hood holiday where they have a truce? Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (yikga) 123
Botswana is definitely not a banana republic and is quite possibly the only functioning democracy on the continent.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (RIvkX) 124
++++
Start the timer on "White House spokesperson walks back Biden's statement about ..." Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn) +++++ "President Biden was just being symbolic." Posted by: White House Spokesperson at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (F6UFz) 125
114 88 So Biden is up in Syracuse today talking about $6b in chip manufacturing grants to build plants in Syracuse and Boise, Idaho. Why do I think this will end up being a boondoggle?
... these aren't a giveaway, the feds want to be a partner Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:42 PM (RHGPo) Aah… so out of the closet Fascism.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:44 PM (PCK5/) 126
@Breaking911 2m
BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls." Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (IG4Id) +++++ WHAT?? Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 03:41 PM (F6UFz) I gotta believe, the people in his ear, they would have told him "now don't go off-script, just say what we told you to say," but they couldn't because he would have said "don't go off script." So as soon as they heard the words coming out of his mouth "I got one of those calls," there were half a dozen people in the control room, ripping off and slamming down their headsets, smacking their foreheads, pulling their hair. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (dGCAG) 127
Ace there's some new Nina Jankowicz news at zh. She's got a big new foundation where she exposes who's funding misinformation and RussianBots! but refuses to explain who funded her new job to the tune of a million so far. But she's now just a private disinfo zar.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (Y6IkP) Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (9Ct69) 129
If I was in Syracuse I would be having dinner at Dinosaur BBQ
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (RIvkX) 130
BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning,
an angel gets his wings!" Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (9yWhg) 131
"President Biden was just being symbolic."
Posted by: White House Spokesperson at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (F6UFz) ++++ "The president meant that the call informing him of the passing of his - the brave freedom fighter Beau Biden - makes him able to empathize with the trauma such calls can cause. Republicans seizing on this expression of Biden's humanity is despicable." Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (HnUIn) 132
(Starbuck's is far too bougie for us Mac users, you know) taking up the largest table by myself.
Posted by: Oddbob Be sure to order a flat white with your avocado toast. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (IG4Id) 133
Jill is apparently both a doctor and a cop. How does she have time to campaign?
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:46 PM (RQM8P) 134
130 BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning,
an angel gets his wings!" Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (9yWhg) ======== "To get my wings, I have to convince Joe Biden to not kill himself?" -Clarence Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:46 PM (GBKbO) 135
Do Apple users wear sweaters in July and drink Pilot truck stop coffee ironically?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:46 PM (9Ct69) 136
128 hahahaha
Bo Biden died in his job as a beat cop. Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (9Ct69) ++++ Did not know this. Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 03:46 PM (F6UFz) 137
132 (Starbuck's is far too bougie for us Mac users, you know) taking up the largest table by myself.
Posted by: Oddbob Be sure to order a flat white with your avocado toast. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (IG4Id) I thought the “ flat whites” were the counter girls… Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:47 PM (PCK5/) 138
Biden is the bride at every wedding and the widow at every funeral.
Is there any story he's not the center of? It must have galled him to no end to see the string of Obama selfies for every major event with no Joe beside him. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:47 PM (yikga) 139
Beau was a hard-ass cop in Iraq. Everyone called him "Old Ironsides" because of his wheelchair after he got wartime cancer.
Posted by: joey biden at April 25, 2024 03:47 PM (vtyCZ) 140
>>>President Biden was just being symbolic."
Posted by: White House Spokesperson at April 25, 2024 03:43 PM (F6UFz) ====== "Just trying to make a connection with the people. What's so wrong with that." Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:48 PM (GPSZ3) 141
135 Do Apple users wear sweaters in July and drink Pilot truck stop coffee ironically?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:46 PM (9Ct69) Not really, but I do shoot deer in the back yard.. unironically.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:48 PM (PCK5/) 142
FFS...
@Breaking911 2m BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls." Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 03:39 PM (IG4Id) ---------------- "Beau died as he lived: wearing & wielding The Shield, jack! They even named a TV show after him ... No Joke!" Beau's died everywhere, man Beau's died everywhere, man Died crossing deserts bare, man Died breathing mountain air, man Of dying, he's had his share, man Beau's died everywhere. 101 BabylonBee: Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 03:48 PM (HaJYn) 143
Not all of them. Four out of five, probably, but that one guy... he really believes that stuff.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:41 PM (dGCAG) ======== Why do you assume the FBI agents don't believe that stuff? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO) Let's back up. Skinheads and Pali protesters, they hate Jews, right? Among others? Is that usually who the ham and eggers are going after with their sting operations? Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:48 PM (dGCAG) 144
@126 I think the inside of Biden's head is like the alien Rosenberg from Men in Black. Only in Biden's case the alien is wacked on meth and LSD and spouting nonsense
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 03:48 PM (aX7Uj) 145
Biden stutters and Trump said to drink bleach.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:48 PM (9Ct69) 146
You BASTARDS! You killed Beau!!
Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at April 25, 2024 03:48 PM (krQz2) 147
Bo Biden died in his job as a beat cop.
Posted by: Moron Robbie --- No, he said husband or wife so it's DOCTOR Jill. My guess is moonlighting as an undercover cop in a prostitution sting. Would explain the fishnets. Posted by: screaming in digital at April 25, 2024 03:48 PM (wQXfi) 148
If we could just figure out how to hack into Biden's teleprompter we could make this idiot say whatever we want. He is the living embodiment of Ron Burgundy.
Fuck you, Syracuse! Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 03:49 PM (LkLld) 149
BIDEN: "Every time a police officer puts on that shield every morning, their husband or wife…worries about will they get that phone call. I got one of those phone calls."
___ I suppose he is referencing the phone call he received when the truck driver "who drank his lunch killed his hot Republican wife who looked great in a bikini"*, which he is equating to the daily fear of the phone call when the spouse's LEO is on duty. * yeah, I know, Biden is not only a defamer, but he's weird. Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2024 03:49 PM (4hHmM) 150
Most people don't know this, but Hunter was a butt-baby. I don't usually talk about it because, for some reason, it embarrasses him... no reason to be ashamed of being a butt-baby, not in this day and age. You can thank Democrats for that.
His older brother came from a birthing person's front hole, God rest him. But not him. This happened during the Stonewall Riots, when I was protesting for love the American Way, alongside a biker, an Indian, a cowboy, a sailor, and a construction worker. That kind of diverse coalition is our strength. Now, in those days, I was a real lady-killer. I didn't just beat Wilt Chamberlain at basketball, ya know. But in that moment, I was so overcome by a passion for justice, that I let all those freedom fighters take me. And I can tell ya that one of those brave, costumed queens is the father of the smartest butt-baby you ever saw, jack. It was the fabulous policeman. Anyway, he and Beau were killed raiding a warehouse full of Putin's phony ballots. Saddest phone call of my life. That's why we fight for Ukraine - because Democrats take action when the people have called them. Word as a Brandon. Posted by: Brandon at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (0FoWg) 151
Do Apple users wear sweaters in July and drink Pilot truck stop coffee ironically?
- Not really, but I do shoot deer in the back yard.. unironically.. Posted by: tubal -- I was mostly joking. Almost everyone's grandma is an Apple user now, which makes the little Apple stickers on the back of SUVs a lot funnier. "My granny has one of those!" Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (9Ct69) 152
I often wonder just how national elections would turn out if we actually prevented cheating
Posted by: weew at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (ttxaD) 153
Concerning the newest sidebar I’m glad to say, despite my being a horrible judge of character, I never been a fan of Tucker C.
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (GPSZ3) 154
That whole thing is a sh*t show, sheriff's deputies included. In case you were unaware, the sheriff's deputies actually established their own street gang (The Banditos). Before this Villanueva guy took over, no incumbent had been dethroned in over 104 years. The deputies actually have an internal policy to cover their own gang tattoos when they go to court.
There is no side to support on this...California is a cesspool of jackassery. Posted by: Orson at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (dIske) Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (Q4IgG) 156
Bo Biden died in his job as a beat cop.
Posted by: Moron Robbie --- No, he said husband or wife so it's DOCTOR Jill. My guess is moonlighting as an undercover cop in a prostitution sting. Would explain the fishnets. Posted by: screaming in digital -- In all seriousness I think he was referencing the wife he drove to suicide who also tried to murder her children because of him. Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:51 PM (9Ct69) 157
I knew a guy in the percussion section who was into cymbalism.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:52 PM (9yWhg) 158
I suppose he is referencing the phone call he received when the truck driver "who drank his lunch killed his hot Republican wife who looked great in a bikini"*, which he is equating to the daily fear of the phone call when the spouse's LEO is on duty.
If only Joe had been driving that car that day... Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:52 PM (Akjoo) 159
157 I knew a guy in the percussion section who was into cymbalism.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:52 PM (9yWhg) Well played? Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:52 PM (PCK5/) 160
The Adventure of the Disappearing Sidebar Entry
Posted by: John H. Watson at April 25, 2024 03:52 PM (9e2in) 161
I remember when I got the call about my husband. They told me Linc had passed on and oh boy did I cry like a baby, let me tell you fat. The only people who could console me were my roommates Janet and Chrissy. Sure we told the landlord I was gay but we had to back then because that was the times we were in, jack.
-Joe Biden Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:53 PM (RQM8P) Posted by: Oddbob at April 25, 2024 03:53 PM (/y8xj) 163
152 I often wonder just how national elections would turn out if we actually prevented cheating
Posted by: weew at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (ttxaD) ++++ I think a lot of people would fall over dead from the shock of realizing what are the actual numbers. Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 03:53 PM (F6UFz) 164
Richard Hanania @RichardHanania Biden Treasury Department says we need higher taxes on capital gains because it would hurt white people more and take away their wealth. Whites own too many stocks and businesses, so they need to pay. https://tinyurl.com/4m87k2ys Screencaps Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (vtyCZ) 165
If only Joe had been driving that car that day...
Posted by: It's me donna - He was in his girlfriend Jill's husband's Corvette. Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (9Ct69) 166
>>>The Adventure of the Disappearing Sidebar Entry
Posted by: John H. Watson at April 25, 2024 03:52 PM (9e2in) ===== Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post? Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) 167
Russia to seize $440 million from JP Morgan.
I'm still laughing at McDonald's canceling the franchises in Russia. So the owners just reopened under a new name. Same product, same suppliers, same customers. But now they don't have to pay lease for the land to McDonald's or franchise fees. McDonald's will get that land back right after the Cubans give the sugar plantations back. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (yikga) 168
Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) 169
Gascon never really recovered from being cucked by that weirdo with Hypertrichosis in the Disney movie. Sad.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Y6IkP) 170
"Assistant District Attorney of Ethics and Integrity Operations"
Just think of the laughs these commies probably get out of picking those titles. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (w/RvR) 171
Beau was a cop in the Sandbox.
Now you know. Posted by: torabora at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (j9uO3) 172
Richard Hanania… looked up his pic… smarmy looking little shit, pasty whie..
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (PCK5/) 173
168 Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) Disney.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (PCK5/) 174
At the very least this piece of crap should be disbarred. Of course even if she is the Dems will find her a new cushy job where she can continue being a political operative
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 03:29 PM (aX7Uj) In a sane polity, she would be lynched. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (8zz6B) 175
So, the first cargo ships have started entering Baltimore Harbor again, through the deep channel that's been dug.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (9yWhg) 176
Ace there's some new Nina Jankowicz news at zh. She's got a big new foundation where she exposes who's funding misinformation and RussianBots! but refuses to explain who funded her new job to the tune of a million so far. But she's now just a private disinfo zar.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (Y6IkP) -------------- Somebody mentioned it here in the comments yesterday. The best part: it's called the "American Sunlight Project." George Orwell, please pick up the white privilege courtesy phone... Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (Q3+9O) 177
According to a press release from California Attorney General Rob Bonta
Pretty amazing that this is being exposed. There are cracks in the edifice... Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (KBusA) 178
UFOs are zapping sidebar entries. Tricky bastards.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (Y6IkP) 179
What did Tucker do?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (9yWhg) 180
163 152 I often wonder just how national elections would turn out if we actually prevented cheating
Posted by: weew at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (ttxaD) ++++ I think a lot of people would fall over dead from the shock of realizing what are the actual numbers. --- We don't need to wonder. Look at formerly swing states OH and FL. But, "it's not who we are" and it's racist if you ask the national GOP to clean up elections. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (yikga) 181
Liberal CNN stars axed under previous leadership return to network’s airwaves
https://tinyurl.com/yc46vk98 Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (NpAcC) 182
179 What did Tucker do?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (9yWhg) He's turned left wing or something Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (Akjoo) 183
144 @126 I think the inside of Biden's head is like the alien Rosenberg from Men in Black. Only in Biden's case the alien is wacked on meth and LSD and spouting nonsense
Posted by: Smell the Glove ...Whoa... Everything makes sense now. Far out, man... Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (sAmhv) Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (4hHmM) 185
>>>What did Tucker do?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (9yWhg) ====== Said it was evil to drop fat man and little boy on civilians. Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (GPSZ3) 186
Fauci To Testify In Public Hearing On COVID-19 Response, Origins
“Retirement from public service does not excuse Dr. Fauci from accountability to the American people,” Mr. Wenstrup said. “On June 3, Americans will have an opportunity to hear directly from Dr. Fauci about his role in overseeing our nation’s pandemic response, shaping pandemic-era policies, and promoting singular questionable narratives about the origins of COVID-19.” .. Fauci has a memoir coming out soon so he will have to actually remember something Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (RHGPo) 187
173 168 Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) Disney.. Posted by: tubal Ewokscaping Posted by: Kratwurst at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (+u4zE) 188
Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) Disney.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (PCK5/) === Tucker is doing a movie about Disney. Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (RIvkX) 189
182 179 What did Tucker do?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (9yWhg) He's turned left wing or something Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (Akjoo) Uh-huh.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (PCK5/) 190
What did Tucker do?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (9yWhg) He tried to take on the might of Ford and General Motors, with a car featuring swiveling headlights and advanced safety features. Posted by: spindrift at April 25, 2024 03:59 PM (OguvZ) 191
173 168 Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) Disney.. --- If it doesn't use the word "snizz" I'm not reading it. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:59 PM (yikga) 192
173 168 Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) Disney.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (PCK5/) _____________ Boobs Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 03:59 PM (iFTx/) 193
Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) Disney.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (PCK5/) -------------- Beau Biden's murder last night by an UltraMAGAt after performing a traffic stop? Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 03:59 PM (Q3+9O) 194
... Now, in those days, I was a real lady-killer. I didn't just beat Wilt Chamberlain at basketball, ya know. But in that moment, I was so overcome by a passion for justice, that I let all those freedom fighters take me. And I can tell ya that one of those brave, costumed queens is the father of the smartest butt-baby you ever saw, jack. It was the fabulous policeman.
Anyway, he and Beau were killed raiding a warehouse full of Putin's phony ballots. Saddest phone call of my life. That's why we fight for Ukraine - because Democrats take action when the people have called them. ... Posted by: Brandon at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM (0FoWg) ++++ Funny, but too coherent. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:59 PM (HnUIn) 195
180 We don't need to wonder.
Look at formerly swing states OH and FL. But, "it's not who we are" and it's racist if you ask the national GOP to clean up elections. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (yikga) ======== We are still told that mail in voting is incredibly secure despite it failing the most basic of smell tests. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:59 PM (GBKbO) 196
hahahaha
Bo Biden died in his job as a beat cop. Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 03:45 PM (9Ct69) Just two weeks away from retirement. Was going to start living off his pension, just bought a boat he was gonna take out fishing every day. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:59 PM (dGCAG) 197
Investigators say Harvard University's morgue manager was part of an underground network trafficking human remains. Here's how it unravelled
.. I bet they were hoping for a bloodbath from the demostrations Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:00 PM (RHGPo) 198
Personally I despise Tucker for speaking to people I have been told to not like or are officially not supposed to be heard.
And his OPINIONS. Heterodoxy has no place in conservatism. At least not all at one time. Conservatism is perfectly OK with defending positions it fought against seven years ago, but that is not heterodoxy Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 04:00 PM (D7oie) 199
>>> What did Tucker do?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (9yWhg) I don't know, but I bet there's an absolute banger of a dirty limerick about it. Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (Y6IkP) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (9yWhg) 201
Investigators say Harvard University's morgue manager was part of an underground network trafficking human remains. Here's how it unravelled
-- You know what was completely fake, though? That whole D.C. pizza thing. Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (9Ct69) 202
Emory University protest descends into chaos as Georgia cops 'spray tear gas', fire rubber bullets and arrest dozens of students
... everybody know you are supposed to be "Emory bored" Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (RHGPo) 203
185 >>>What did Tucker do?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 03:57 PM (9yWhg) ====== Said it was evil to drop fat man and little boy on civilians. Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (GPSZ3) ======== The fire bombing of Japan killed far more people, and it's never held up as some sort of terrible atrocity of war. Because people are stupid. And the idea that the nation and military that held Iwo Jima for weeks under heavy bombardment would just admit defeat once American boots hit the main Japanese island is outright stupid. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (GBKbO) 204
He tried to take on the might of Ford and General Motors, with a car featuring swiveling headlights and advanced safety features.
Posted by: spindrift at April 25, 2024 03:59 PM (OguvZ) Hah! I was sitting here thinking "I don't remember him saying anything about the car industry!" Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (dGCAG) 205
Yeah, that Lancelot Linc was one smart chimp P.I.
Posted by: joey biden at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (vtyCZ) 206
This busty bikini blonde on the beach is glad that she doesn't live in LA anymore:
http://tiny.cc/yzxuxz Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (HnUIn) 207
BabylonBee: College Student So Caught Up Harassing Jews He Forgot About Term Paper On Inclusion
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (RHGPo) 208
Concerning the newest sidebar I’m glad to say, despite my being a horrible judge of character, I never been a fan of Tucker C. Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:50 PM His latest conversations with Joe Rogan have me stepping back a few steps. UFO's? Alex Jones as channeling some deity? And Israel? Quite a few more steps. It must have been the polonium tea that Putin served him. The sidebar item must have been 'memory holed'. Posted by: Karen CheChe at April 25, 2024 04:02 PM (RKVpM) 209
206 This busty bikini blonde on the beach is glad that she doesn't live in LA anymore:
http://tiny.cc/yzxuxz Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) ____ Her cups runneth over. Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2024 04:02 PM (4hHmM) 210
We are still told that mail in voting is incredibly secure despite it failing the most basic of smell tests.
--- You sound like a Russian agent J6 insurrectionist. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 04:03 PM (yikga) 211
Investigators say Harvard University's morgue manager was part of an underground network trafficking human remains. Here's how it unravelled
.. I bet they were hoping for a bloodbath from the demostrations Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:00 PM (RHGPo) There's an underground market for human remains? Whatever for? Wait, maybe don't answer that... Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2024 04:03 PM (XPM1I) 212
210 We are still told that mail in voting is incredibly secure despite it failing the most basic of smell tests.
--- You sound like a Russian agent J6 insurrectionist. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 04:03 PM (yikga) ======= False. I am an Albanian bot, but also an asshole. But mostly just an asshole. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO) 213
THE US AID PACKAGE TO UKRAINE IS TO PAY FOR A PRIOR SECRET DELIVERY OF WEAPONS
... I guess Biden is hoping the SCOTUS allows for POTUS immunity Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:03 PM (RHGPo) 214
I have not noticed Fen rebuttals of Mannix Babes of late.. was kind of an HQ feature folly…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:03 PM (PCK5/) 215
There's an underground market for human remains? Whatever for? Wait, maybe don't answer that...
____ *shifty eyes* Posted by: Igor at April 25, 2024 04:04 PM (4hHmM) 216
Said it was evil to drop fat man and little boy on civilians.
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (GPSZ3) No, that's not really what he said. He was using the present tense when referring to people who "want to drop nukular weapons on people" when calling them evil. The problem is, everyone is looking for reasons to say he's bad. Now, he most certainly did say it was wrong to drop the nooks on Japan, but the "evil" comment was about our modern day war goons who are hellbent on it now. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:04 PM (dGCAG) 217
Ya spend thirty years in the gutter, taking garbage off the streets so that people can sleep at night, and whaddya get? Huh? A "thank you for your service," and a lousy gold watch, that's what! And before it even goes on your wrist, your old man gets a call that you're not coming home tonight, because a MAGA insurrectionist wouldn't get a vaccine.
Posted by: Brandon at April 25, 2024 04:04 PM (0FoWg) 218
There's an underground market for human remains? Whatever for? Wait, maybe don't answer that...
-- I'm pretty sure it came out a few years ago that was a big part of Planned Parenthood / abortion clinics income schemes. Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 25, 2024 04:04 PM (9Ct69) 219
Personally I despise Tucker for speaking to people I have been told to not like or are officially not supposed to be heard.
And his OPINIONS. Heterodoxy has no place in conservatism. At least not all at one time. Conservatism is perfectly OK with defending positions it fought against seven years ago, but that is not heterodoxy Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 04:00 PM (D7oie) ==== I do not despise Tucker. However his interview of Putin was limp and non-revealing. His interview of the Bethlehem priest was misleading by omission. To quote Tucker; Why? Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 04:04 PM (RIvkX) 220
Investigators say Harvard University's morgue manager was part of an underground network trafficking human remains. Here's how it unravelled
------- Free Mummia!!! Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 04:05 PM (vtyCZ) 221
You know what was completely fake, though?
That whole D.C. pizza thing. --- Have you heard the one about Ellen selling cheap junk furniture at oddly astronomical prices? And the "names" of the pieces just happen to all be names of recently missing children in L.A.? Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 04:05 PM (yikga) 222
There's an underground market for human remains? Whatever for? Wait, maybe don't answer that...
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2024 04:03 PM Most marketing of human remains occurs above ground. Posted by: Wesley Crusher at April 25, 2024 04:06 PM (a3Q+t) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:06 PM (9yWhg) 224
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I do not despise Tucker. However his interview of Putin was limp and non-revealing. His interview of the Bethlehem priest was misleading by omission. To quote Tucker; Why? Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 04:04 PM (RIvkX) I have weighed Tucker in my Balance, and still find him not wanting… Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:06 PM (PCK5/) 225
>>>The problem is, everyone is looking for reasons to say he's bad. Now, he most certainly did say it was wrong to drop the nooks on Japan, but the "evil" comment was about our modern day war goons who are hellbent on it now.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:04 PM (dGCAG) ====== Thanks for the clarification. I was going off of the article at Redstate. Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 04:06 PM (GPSZ3) 226
Free Mummia!!!
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) With purchase of a Mummia of equal or greater value. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:07 PM (9yWhg) 227
I have weighed Tucker in my Balance, and still find him not wanting…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:06 PM (PCK5/) I like him but he's come out with some things lately I don't agree with Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 04:07 PM (Akjoo) 228
80 Afternoon.
Gooderer and harderer. Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 03:35 PM (vr92T) ---- Yes, those are bestest. Posted by: Ciampino - did do let the banana out? at April 25, 2024 04:07 PM (qfLjt) 229
Billy Mumia was an annoying kid…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:07 PM (PCK5/) 230
I saw my first person wearing a ‘hamas to the sea’ teeshirt today, shirt was blue with a palm tree on a sandy shore. Looked like you’d buy at Daytona Beach. We are truly in the last days.
Posted by: Eromero at April 25, 2024 04:07 PM (o2ZRX) 231
His latest conversations with Joe Rogan have me stepping back a few steps. UFO's? Alex Jones as channeling some deity? And Israel? Quite a few more steps.
It must have been the polonium tea that Putin served him. The sidebar item must have been 'memory holed'. Posted by: Karen CheChe at April 25, 2024 04:02 PM (RKVpM) All in all, it was an interesting conversation, but yeah, he went "out there" a bit with some of that stuff. I think the UFO biz is mostly an op, and the notion that Alex Jones is channeling God's word seems a bit extreme to me, but even that, it's hardly a foreign concept for Christians to believe in prophets. I think a better explanation is Alex is on the spectrum, but if Tucker wants to believe it's spiritual, I don't really have a problem with that. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:08 PM (dGCAG) 232
227 I have weighed Tucker in my Balance, and still find him not wanting…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:06 PM (PCK5/) I like him but he's come out with some things lately I don't agree with Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 04:07 PM (Akjoo) To quote an elf “ our list of allies grows thin”.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:09 PM (PCK5/) 233
Billy Mumy >>>> Will Wheaton
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:09 PM (9yWhg) 234
Billy Mumia was an annoying kid…
Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 04:07 PM (PCK5/) ==== Don't let him hear you, he'll send you to the cornfield Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 04:09 PM (RIvkX) 235
The best Mummia portrayal was by Lon Chaney, Jr.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 04:10 PM (9yWhg) 236
I look at Tucker Carlson as a source, but not an authority.
Nobody tells me what to believe. I will reign down on them. Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:10 PM (RHGPo) 237
Video of a drag queen in Massachusetts leading a group of young kids to chant “Free Palestine” has sparked fierce backlash — with some calling it “indoctrination” that is “wrong on every level.”
The encounter, which unfolded at a “Queer Storytime for Palestine” event organized by the Valley Families for Palestine group in Amherst last week, had gone viral by Thursday as outrage mounted. Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 04:10 PM (vtyCZ) 238
213 THE US AID PACKAGE TO UKRAINE IS TO PAY FOR A PRIOR SECRET DELIVERY OF WEAPONS
--- You have to love it. We're borrowing money. To loan to the Ukraine. So they can buy--on credit--our old equipment. Forcing the US to borrow money to buy new equipment. You know, if the Ukraine war was so popular, the Ukraine should be able to easily sell billions of Ukraine War Bonds. I mean, all those social media profile pics are worth $100,000,000,000,000 at the least in War bond sales. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 04:11 PM (yikga) 239
Thanks for the clarification. I was going off of the article at Redstate.
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 04:06 PM (GPSZ3) There's an aspect of it too, Tucker knows he's pissing people off, and doesn't seem to mind doing so. It wouldn't be hard for anyone to make the connection that he was condemning everyone who was/is in favor of the Japan nooks, and it's his fault for not being more careful. If it was not his intention to give them that impression, I mean. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:11 PM (dGCAG) 240
The fire bombing of Japan killed far more people, and it's never held up as some sort of terrible atrocity of war.
Because people are stupid. And the idea that the nation and military that held Iwo Jima for weeks under heavy bombardment would just admit defeat once American boots hit the main Japanese island is outright stupid. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 04:01 PM (GBKbO) ----------------------------------- Operation Olympic would have invaded Kyushu, accompanied by a diversion on the even smaller, sparsely-populated island of Shikoku. Honshu, the largest island, wouldn't have been invaded until Operation Coronet in 1946, aimed at Tokyo. Posted by: John H. Watson at April 25, 2024 04:11 PM (9e2in) 241
Billy Mumia was an annoying kid…
____ He was alright. But Robot, what a cantankerous cold-hearted clump, a hopeless heap of tainted tin, a lugubrious laggard. A bubble-headed booby, if you will. Posted by: Dr Smith at April 25, 2024 04:11 PM (4hHmM) 242
DANGER .. DANGER .. DANGER .. Will ROBINSON
COSMIC STORM APPROACHING Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:11 PM (RHGPo) 243
>>I like him but he's come out with some things lately I don't agree with
I don't agree with anyone on every issue. The problem seems to be that since Tucker is one of the few voices mostly on our side and paid a heavy price for not bowing to the mob there seems to be a feeling that he has to have the same position on every issue. I never thought of Tucker as an intellectual heavyweight and he isn't. He's a talking head I mostly agree with. Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2024 04:12 PM (LkLld) 244
nooked tucker
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 04:12 PM (vtyCZ) 245
Said it was evil to drop fat man and little boy on civilians.
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:58 PM (GPSZ3) It is a valid argument. It worked out well, but was it the best thing to do? I will give you another thing to be angry about: the CSA was trying to negotiate a peace with the Union, and Lincoln was blocking the negotiations because he had other goals than ending the civil war. Who is to blame for those deaths? Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM (D7oie) 246
I look at Tucker Carlson as a source, but not an authority.
Nobody tells me what to believe. I will reign down on them. Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:10 PM (RHGPo) We know he's being fed information. The question is, are there people knowingly feeding him false information? I would have to think so, and is he smart enough to not just take THEIR word as authority? Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM (dGCAG) 247
>>>The encounter, which unfolded at a “Queer Storytime for Palestine” event organized by the Valley Families for Palestine group in Amherst last week, had gone viral by Thursday as outrage mounted.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 25, 2024 04:10 PM (vtyCZ) ===== They took their kids to a drag queen? I think I have identified their first mistake. Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM (GPSZ3) Posted by: Disgusted at April 25, 2024 04:14 PM (Z8Yh2) 249
Jill died in the line of duty?
Posted by: Montec at April 25, 2024 04:16 PM (kEO1K) 250
Rush hour chaos in London as 5 military horses get spooked, run amok .. been had! been took! been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray!
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:16 PM (RHGPo) 251
I watch the teasers and short vids that Tucker posts on X but I don't pay the annual dues for the full TCN content. I have also paid to use X, got verified, but I still get the ads.
I also hit the tip jar here at least annually. I also subscribe to VDH's site. Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 25, 2024 04:17 PM (MeG8a) 252
AG Rob Bonta, huckapino commie.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 25, 2024 04:19 PM (Q2P04) 253
There's an aspect of it too, Tucker knows he's pissing people off, and doesn't seem to mind doing so. It wouldn't be hard for anyone to make the connection that he was condemning everyone who was/is in favor of the Japan nooks, and it's his fault for not being more careful. If it was not his intention to give them that impression, I mean.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 04:11 PM (dGCAG) One could argue that dropping the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was an evil, but that not dropping them would lead to an even worse evil. Sometimes, the "good" option is greyed out. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2024 04:20 PM (8zz6B) 254
Kim Kardashian coming to White House for VP Harris roundtable discussion.
.. the hills are alive with the silence of dumbness Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 04:20 PM (RHGPo) 255
Villanueva exposited concealed carry permits, so, not of the body.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 25, 2024 04:22 PM (Q2P04) 256
Phoenix Internet was here today and changed out my rooftop radio dish. Hence the hash change.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (8zz6B) 257
exposited = expidited.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 25, 2024 04:23 PM (Q2P04) 258
173 168 Anyone want to take bets on the subject of Ace's next post?
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GPSZ3) Tucker Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo) Disney.. Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2024 03:56 PM (PCK5/) ---- Electric Vespas? Posted by: Ciampino - did you let the banana out? at April 25, 2024 04:25 PM (qfLjt) 259
I will give you another thing to be angry about: the CSA was trying to negotiate a peace with the Union, and Lincoln was blocking the negotiations because he had other goals than ending the civil war. Who is to blame for those deaths? Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 04:13 PM (D7oie) Great. Another Confederate apologist. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (mggQ3) 260
Anyone who has any sort of Relationship or Connections to George Soros and his rotten Son should lose their American Citizenship and Please Leave
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 25, 2024 05:28 PM (wGqjj) 261
We are still told that mail in voting is incredibly secure despite it failing the most basic of smell tests.
you mean failing EVERY test Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at April 25, 2024 05:36 PM (iNp3L) NY Court of Appeals Tosses Harvey Weinstein's 2020 Rape ConvictionThere's a rule that you can't put on evidence of prior "bad acts" to prove that a defendant committed the specific bad acts he's being tried for in the present case. It's not that such evidence is completely irrelevant; it's that it's unduly prejudicial to the defendant. Such evidence tends to poison the jury against the defendant well out of proportion to the actual light it sheds on the current crime being judged at trial. But that's what the state of New York did to get their conviction. They had some weak evidence of rape in cases where the statute of limitations hadn't run out yet, so they put on evidence from other women claiming they'd been raped (in cases where the statute of limitations had run out). I'm not even sure how this was allowed in the first place. I assume (I haven't read much about the case) that they used the special and often-abused exemption to the "no prior bad acts" rule, the "signature" exception. Prosecutors will sometimes claim that a method of committing a crime is so specific to one individual that it constitutes a "signature" in the modus operandi, and can then put on witnesses who testify about the same M.O. being used in crimes against them. It's often a weak and bullshitty exception: "The bank robbers wore ski masks and gloves, that's a signature." Okay it doesn't usually get that transparent, but you can see the way this rule can abused, and where a judge will allow "signature" evidence in a case The Regime is desperate to win. Another exception, which seems to be the one used in this case, is to claim you're not putting on these witnesses to prove his prior bad acts, but to shed light on his state-of-mind he had when committing the acts he's on trial for. The prosecution put on three witnesses to accuse Weinstein of prior rape, and claimed they weren't presenting this evidence just to show he's generally a rapist, but to prove that his state in mind in the current case was one of intent to commit a sexual assault. That is, it wasn't just a mistake where he misread the woman's level of interest in him. But I mean, come on: You can't tell the jury "don't consider this testimony as evidence that he committed the current crime, just consider it as far as his state-of-mind." That's telling people to put the information in a special vault in their brain that they cannot access except to answer one particular question. No one's brain works like that, not even the brain of Noted "Compartmentalizer" Bill Clinton. The toxic Regime will let every criminal out of jail to pacify one constituency. Then, when another constituency must be appeased, they'll change the rules and start presenting/allowing evidence that is plainly out-of-bounds just to convict one guy. The Regime is controlled by people who are all suffering from untreated moral breakdowns, permanently on tilt, and eager to suspend the law or change the law to to satisfy whatever moral panic they're currently in. (Trump can tell you all about that.) Any trial that makes the news is now a political trial. Weinstein is still in jail over a 2023 conviction for a rape in California. But this one is overturned, and he'll be retried, this time without the supplementation of "prior bad acts" witnesses.This is always the pitch: We have to break the rules to convict this defendant for political reasons. ... At oral argument in February, Aidala maintained that Justice James Burke had stacked the deck against Weinstein by allowing three women -- Dawn Dunning, Tarale Wulff and Lauren Young -- to testify against him. Each of the women told the jury that Weinstein had sexually assaulted them after they showed up for what they thought would be a business meeting. The so-called "Molineux" witnesses were called to show that Weinstein's assaults had a common pattern, and that he was not confused about whether or not the victims consented. Weinstein's defense argued that the effect of the testimony, however, was to attack his character without shedding any light on the allegations for which he was actually charged. "This is major prejudice," Aidala argued in February. "It's saying, 'He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy.'" ... The issue of "prior bad acts" testimony was also raised in Bill Cosby's successful appeal of his sexual assault conviction in Pennsylvania. In that case, five women were allowed to testify to buttress the one allegation that was charged. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court overturned that conviction on different grounds, finding that prosecutors had reneged on a promise not to prosecute Cosby. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:10 PM (GBKbO) 2
So, it was a rushed prosecution with tenuous ties to actual law, pursued for political purposes?
That's not the NY court system that I know and love! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:11 PM (GBKbO) 3
But this one is overturned, and he'll be retried, this time without the supplementation of "prior bad acts" witnesses.
Will he? Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:12 PM (IUd0M) 4
Harvey Weinstein didn't kill himself...
Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 25, 2024 02:13 PM (esflq) 5
It's only a signature if he directly requests a ficus.
Or "signs" a slogan rather than a general sprinkling. Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2024 02:13 PM (PMJuY) 6
Narrator in 2026: He was, in fact, never retried.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 25, 2024 02:14 PM (CwhoI) Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:15 PM (JeYYB) 8
I wonder if he's being sued in civil. It makes sense if they rushed the criminal trials to get his civil defense strategy exposed.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 02:15 PM (IG4Id) 9
He's an awful person, who has LONG been known to be an awful person...
But you don't get to ignore the law just because he's awful. The ruling is correct- the prosecution was given way too much leeway. I'm absolutely shocked to see that there is a semblance of the rule of law hanging on. (If you have a ton of money to spend on appeals.) Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 25, 2024 02:15 PM (N1tpc) 10
Move ovah, Ninth Ciuhkit!
Posted by: New Yawk Coawts at April 25, 2024 02:15 PM (gKWVE) 11
RIP the rule of law in New York state. It's like they use the criminal justice system to get whomever they don't like at the moment.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:15 PM (YqDXo) 12
Just in case you had doubts about there being two sets of laws....
Hopefully this means we'll get hot chicks in movies showing their tits again. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 25, 2024 02:16 PM (xcxpd) 13
He really is one ugly looking human being. I'd have to say he would never get a female to have sex with him willingly.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 02:16 PM (F6UFz) 14
9 He's an awful person, who has LONG been known to be an awful person...
But you don't get to ignore the law just because he's awful. ------- There are so many similarities. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (JeYYB) 15
Overturning the conviction is correct, even though the guy is a scumbag.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (ufFY8) 16
Why didn't the prosecution get their pee-pees knocked down when they brought up prior bad acts?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (YqDXo) 17
Heh. NY prosecutor Bragg is using the same strategy during the Trump trial and dragging in peripheral mudslinging that has nothing to do with the conduct on trial.
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (/AKWf) 18
so, Trump can't be prosecuted for saying he grabbed them by the pussy
where's my fucking pearls ?? Posted by: yikes at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (us2H3) 19
So basically what you're saying is, the justice system in New York is run by monkeys and imbeciles.
That's the message I'm getting. Weinstein's a pig, and deserves whatever hell he gets, in this life and the next, but prosecutors are the worst people on the planet. Worse than rapists. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (dGCAG) Posted by: Vengeance at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (33Ta2) Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (pgwxJ) 22
Did the alleged rape occur in Manhattan?
Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (rj6Yv) 23
He really is one ugly looking human being. I'd have to say he would never get a female to have sex with him willingly.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 02:16 PM (F6UFz) _______________ Female of what species? He might stand a chance with a female warthog. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (YqDXo) 24
17 Heh. NY prosecutor Bragg is using the same strategy during the Trump trial and dragging in peripheral mudslinging that has nothing to do with the conduct on trial.
Posted by: whig Unsure Trump's lawyers necessarily want to bring in "The Ficus Defense" Posted by: gKWVE at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (gKWVE) 25
My diseased and misshaped pneis is so happy
Posted by: Harvy Pervy Weinerstein at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (NtVYv) 26
Did the alleged rape occur in Manhattan?
Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (rj6Yv) _________________ It was SRO in the Bergdorf changing rooms. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (YqDXo) 27
24 17 Heh. NY prosecutor Bragg is using the same strategy during the Trump trial and dragging in peripheral mudslinging that has nothing to do with the conduct on trial.
Posted by: whig Unsure Trump's lawyers necessarily want to bring in "The Ficus Defense" Posted by: gKWVE at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (gKWVE) ======== If you can't ficus, then you must acquit us. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO) 28
17 Heh. NY prosecutor Bragg is using the same strategy during the Trump trial and dragging in peripheral mudslinging that has nothing to do with the conduct on trial.
Posted by: whig I thought the same thing Posted by: Harvy Pervy Weinerstein at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (NtVYv) 29
I'm not even sure how this was allowed in the first place.
Harvey Weinstein was the ORANGEMANBAD of #metoo. He was loved, respected, powerful within the system and then... something changed and he was public enemy #1. Is there anything you wouldn't do to stop Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (IUd0M) 30
It is the right call. No chance he has a second trial though.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (7PziG) 31
Morning.
Holy shit, are we going to have to defend Harvey fucking Weinstein now? What a world. Can the ficus testify? Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (oNOxo) 32
29 I'm not even sure how this was allowed in the first place.
Harvey Weinstein was the ORANGEMANBAD of #metoo. He was loved, respected, powerful within the system and then... something changed and he was public enemy #1. Is there anything you wouldn't do to stop Hitler Weinstein? Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (IUd0M) ======= He was taking jobs that should have gone to an oppressed minority like Ivy league educated, wealthy white women. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO) 33
It was SRO in the Bergdorf changing rooms.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (YqDXo) Thanks. So, it's Alvin Bragg's call, eh? LOL Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 02:20 PM (rj6Yv) 34
But this one is overturned, and he'll be retried, this time without the supplementation of "prior bad acts" witnesses.
_______________ E. Jean Carroll is warming in the bullpen. Once she gets out of the mental institution. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:20 PM (YqDXo) 35
31 Morning.
Holy shit, are we going to have to defend Harvey fucking Weinstein now? What a world. Can the ficus testify? Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (oNOxo) ======= I see it as opportunity to point and laugh at the NY court system. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:20 PM (GBKbO) 36
16 Why didn't the prosecution get their pee-pees knocked down when they brought up prior bad acts?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara ====== Character evidence alleging past bad acts gets problematic when it involves uncharged crimes. Had Weinstein been tried and convicted of those past crimes, it would have been allowable because it would demonstrate a pattern of ability to commit those crimes in the past. Essentially what NY prosecutors did was use uncharged past bad acts to argue that that this evidence applied to the particular case at hand. Goes back for a retrial is what will happen. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:20 PM (/AKWf) 37
The issue of "prior bad acts" testimony was also raised in Bill Cosby's successful appeal of his sexual assault conviction in Pennsylvania. In that case, five women were allowed to testify to buttress the one allegation that was charged. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court overturned that conviction on different grounds, finding that prosecutors had reneged on a promise not to prosecute Cosby.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:10 PM Ah, I see the press is dutifully hiding information. The prosecutors SPECIFICALLY promised not to prosecute Cosby so that he could not invoke the 5th amendment in a civil trial. Then, USING THE EVIDENCE FROM THE CIVIL TRIAL, the prosecutors charged him with crimes. They should be in jail for deprivation of rights under the color of law. But there are no consequences for the ruling class. They get a "scolding" and then go on to do the same thing again. Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 25, 2024 02:20 PM (N1tpc) 38
Not to defend Harvey Weinstein, who is by all reports an enormous bag of douche, but any accusation that he has not been convicted of, by definition, he is innocent of in our system. At least, under the system we used to have.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 25, 2024 02:20 PM (esflq) 39
UGGGGG... off you vile sock.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 02:21 PM (N1tpc) 40
Why bother having another trial? It sounds like he's in jail for the rest of his life. Anyway, the NY judicial system needs to spend every dollar on prosecuting that serial jay-walker and sexual deviant Donald Trump. Did you know he said the word, 'pussy'? Posted by: Karen CheChe at April 25, 2024 02:21 PM (RKVpM) Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 02:21 PM (yZP7y) 42
How did Weinstein ever get to his position? He's got enough ugly to open a branch face. He'd be better off shaving his ass and walking on his hands.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (YqDXo) 43
This gives Harvey another out, by saying the jury pool of almost the whole USA is now tainted because of this unjust trial.
He owns enough Democrats that im actually shocked this went this far. Posted by: Rbastid at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (hwnBu) 44
"Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!"
Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (pgwxJ) 45
but any accusation that he has not been convicted of, by definition, he is innocent of in our system. At least, under the system we used to have.
Posted by: Hawkpilot That Western standard of law went out the door with employment discrimination law. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (IG4Id) 46
43 This gives Harvey another out, by saying the jury pool of almost the whole USA is now tainted because of this unjust trial.
He owns enough Democrats that im actually shocked this went this far. Posted by: Rbastid at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (hwnBu) ====== I don't think it's going to get him out of the California penal system, though. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO) 47
Did you know he said the word, 'pussy'?
Posted by: Karen CheChe at April 25, 2024 02:21 PM (RKVpM) ________________ And he tore the tag off a mattress. This cannot stand! Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (YqDXo) 48
Holy shit, are we going to have to defend Harvey fucking Weinstein now?
------ Unfortunately we are. The courts are simply another shit show. I had a friend say, "I know at least one juror will not convict Trump." My response, "that didn't work out during the MOST bogus rape/defamation trial." Not one person had enough critical thinking skill to know that woman was a nut case. The more I hear about her the more I get enraged. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (JeYYB) 49
Bailiff, whack him on the pee pee.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (2UnvF) 50
He really is one ugly looking human being. I'd have to say he would never get a female to have sex with him willingly.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 02:16 PM (F6UFz) He's got a ton of money. He could get hundreds of women to have sex with him willingly. But he wouldn't get the thrill of using his power on them, nor these specific women to sleep with him. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 02:23 PM (N1tpc) 51
>> crimes of sexual violence are far more nuanced and complex than other crimes, comes at the expense and safety of women."
Nuanced and complexed is shorthand for Banana In The Tail Pipe. Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 25, 2024 02:23 PM (JIdXK) Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 25, 2024 02:23 PM (ufFY8) 53
But that's what the state of New York did...
Pretty much sums it up right there. We're New York so everyone else can piss off! Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 02:23 PM (W/lyH) 54
Overturning the conviction is correct, even though the guy is a scumbag.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (ufFY Same point I made about OJ a couple weeks ago, even though a lot of people don't want to hear it. They botched his case, and the cops planted evidence. Which is why he was acquitted, not because the jurors were sticking it to the "white man." Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 02:23 PM (dGCAG) 55
Weinstein is a scumbag but the Court of Appeals was correct. All of the judges were appointed by either Cuomo or Hochul. It was a surprise that the appellate division, which is the first level of appeal in NYS let it stand. The trial judge screwed this up , just like the Judge in Trump's case are screwing up. They are trying to cater to the mob, which should be ignored by a judge
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 25, 2024 02:23 PM (aX7Uj) 56
I'm going to have to testify at the retrial, aren't I?
Posted by: Ficus at April 25, 2024 02:24 PM (8b2OY) 57
‘He isn’t getting out of jail because there is still the 16 year for the LA conviction.
Posted by: Piper at April 25, 2024 02:24 PM (ZdaMQ) 58
Come on Eileen !
Posted by: Harvy Pervy Weinerstein at April 25, 2024 02:24 PM (NtVYv) 59
The trial judge allowed it because they knew the conviction would be tossed. It was specifically challenged by the defense and the judge ruled against them.
Fast forward to now. The New York judiciary is allowing Trump to be prosecuted based on an act for which the statute of limitations has expired. They've further allowed other charges to be falsely compounded and brought based on that unlawful charge. New York courts routinely do things like this on a regular basis. To the point they've even ignored SCOTUS in cases like Bruen. Meanwhile criminals and illegal immigrants roam free. People are leaving New York for many reasons. But one of those is increasingly a justice system that has been weaponized against the average person or business who doesn't agree with them. Posted by: Vengeance at April 25, 2024 02:24 PM (33Ta2) 60
57 as Ace noted had I read instead of skimmed.
Posted by: Piper at April 25, 2024 02:24 PM (ZdaMQ) 61
He'd be better off shaving his ass and walking on his hands.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:22 PM (YqDXo) Lord help me but I have days like this. Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2024 02:24 PM (oNOxo) 62
Frankendick comes out on top
Posted by: nckate at April 25, 2024 02:24 PM (4bYb7) 63
Ersatz AnarchoTyranist: Listen we just have to bend the rules to get pigs like Harvey Weinstein and wreckers like Trump and also grannies parading and alternate electors and...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 25, 2024 02:25 PM (JIdXK) 64
Character evidence alleging past bad acts gets problematic when it involves uncharged crimes. Had Weinstein been tried and convicted of those past crimes, it would have been allowable because it would demonstrate a pattern of ability to commit those crimes in the past. Essentially what NY prosecutors did was use uncharged past bad acts to argue that that this evidence applied to the particular case at hand.
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:20 PM (/AKWf) _______________ Is this another "Judge Engoron presents?" Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:25 PM (YqDXo) 65
They botched his case, and the cops planted evidence. Which is why he was acquitted, not because the jurors were sticking it to the "white man."
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 02:23 PM (dGCAG) ------ I don't disagree with you but at least one OJ juror actually said that for them it was sticking it to the white man. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:25 PM (JeYYB) 66
Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 25, 2024 02:15 PM (N1tpc)
Not gonna lie, I'm impressed by your analysis. Who did you copy it from? Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (IUd0M) 67
But that's what the state of New York did to get their conviction. They had some weak evidence of rape in cases where the statute of limitations hadn't run out yet, so they put on evidence from other women claiming they'd been raped (in cases where the statute of limitations had run out).
------------- President Donald J. Trump hardest hit ... Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (yZP7y) 68
And this is how Democrats treat a Democrat when he's no longer useful.
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (RQM8P) 69
Unsure Trump's lawyers necessarily want to bring in "The Ficus Defense"
Posted by: gKWVE ------ It is more to the point that the appellate court has handed the Trump team a cudgel to apply to the judge in the case. Bragg just introduced the Natl Inquirer editor to testify about how stories are squelched and this is the key to the argument that the payments to Stormy and McDougal as well as to the doorman to squash a stupid story about Trump impregnating a maid at the Trump hotel constitute a pattern of misbehavior. Since all of that, like whether Weinstein actually had relationships with the accuser, were uncharged activity (in Trump's case because there is literally no law that prohibit disclosure agreements and payment to prevent disclosure), the past bad acts to show they are a bad person is not allowed due to the Weinstein appellate ruling. Make the leap even larger that appellate courts can uphold any guilty verdict based on Orangeman Bad tactics. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (/AKWf) 70
I see it as opportunity to point and laugh at the NY court system.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju wi cue Nelson Muntz Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (CIS44) 71
It was just serving "Believe All (People Who Say That They Are) Women"
Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (OaZlZ) 72
Weinstein is a pig, but 99% of this was just casting couch type arrangements and the women were pissed he didn’t make them a star as promised.
Posted by: Benchmark at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (Jt4ck) 73
@59
>>Fast forward to now. The New York judiciary is allowing Trump to be prosecuted based on an act for which the statute of limitations has expired. It's actually worse than that, the base charge of falsifying records happened in 2017 after the election, so they are in essence charging Trump with pre-crime. Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 25, 2024 02:27 PM (JIdXK) 74
He really is one ugly looking human being. I'd have to say he would never get a female to have sex with him willingly.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 02:16 PM (F6UFz) He is, or was, really, really, really rich AND could get you a major boost in showbiz. He was swimming in pussy. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:27 PM (IUd0M) 75
Kinda' makes me question the fairness of our justice system.
Nah... it's nowhere near political enough yet, is it? Plenty of room to the left <------ over there. Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 02:27 PM (Q4IgG) 76
NY Court is run by Charlie Foxtrot.
Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 02:27 PM (OaZlZ) 77
Not gonna lie, I'm impressed by your analysis. Who did you copy it from?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (IUd0M) That guy who forgets to remove his sock. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 25, 2024 02:27 PM (ufFY8) 78
Ace noted had I read instead of skimmed.
Posted by: Piper a Piper ace knows we dont read the content Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:27 PM (CIS44) 79
I don't think people are defending Weinstein per se. They are more so pointing out the courts in New York are the most corrupt in our nation and therefore at some point subject to reversal.
Posted by: Vengeance at April 25, 2024 02:27 PM (33Ta2) 80
Ol' Harve was a well-known POS when Meryl Streep led Hollywood in a standing ovation for him.
I cry no tears at this. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 25, 2024 02:28 PM (KbCG3) 81
NY prosecutor Bragg is using the same strategy during the Trump trial and dragging in peripheral mudslinging that has nothing to do with the conduct on trial.
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:17 PM (/AKWf) Took Weinstein 4 years to get his conviction overturned. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:28 PM (IUd0M) 82
I doubt there was any rapes. The women were willing to have sex with Weinstein to further their careers.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 25, 2024 02:28 PM (Dz6Vv) 83
They botched his case, and the cops planted evidence. Which is why he was acquitted, not because the jurors were sticking it to the "white man."
"Something something Healing power of 'And'..." Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 25, 2024 02:28 PM (esflq) 84
Weinstein is a pig, but 99% of this was just casting couch type arrangements and the women were pissed he didn’t make them a star as promised.
Posted by: Benchmark I literally just said this to my buddy in class. also it was a chance for woman to open up spots in hollywood and move up the ladder. Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:29 PM (CIS44) Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:29 PM (JeYYB) 86
I'm getting the impression that legal proceedings in New York are pretty like the trial scene in Idiocracy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:29 PM (YqDXo) 87
When is that poor fern going to get justice?!
Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 02:29 PM (OaZlZ) 88
He really is one ugly looking human being. I'd have to say he would never get a female to have sex with him willingly.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 Weinstein's ex-wife Georgina Chapman is gorgeous. It's amazing what type of woman an ugly man can get if he's loaded and connected. She runs a fashion line now and maybe needed his $$ and connections to get that off the ground. Posted by: Cheri at April 25, 2024 02:29 PM (oiNtH) 89
They botched his case, and the cops planted evidence. Which is why he was acquitted, not because the jurors were sticking it to the "white man."
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 02:23 PM (dGCAG) ------ I don't disagree with you but at least one OJ juror actually said that for them it was sticking it to the white man. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:25 PM (JeYYB) I only ever heard one juror talk about the case, at length, and the impression I had was she would have voted guilty if it wasn't for all the obvious holes they were able to poke at the work of the cops and the techs. So in a sense, "sticking it to the white man" could be construed as saying "no" when the system tries to railroad defendants. Which it does. A lot. And not just to ex-NFL running backs. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 02:29 PM (dGCAG) 90
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:26 PM (/AKWf)
The smart (if lazy and cowardly) thing for the judge to do, might well be to declare "mistrial": markicohenattorneynyc.com/what- is-a-mistrial-and-what-are-some-of-the-common- grounds-for-a-mistrial/ ... and let some other judge pick up Bragg's rancid turd of a case. Posted by: gKWVE at April 25, 2024 02:30 PM (gKWVE) 91
It's actually worse than that, the base charge of falsifying records happened in 2017 after the election, so they are in essence charging Trump with pre-crime.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at it's actually worse than that, the crime they boot strapped it to to make it a felony to extend the staute of limitations is a state law about running for state office. Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:30 PM (CIS44) 92
Ol' Harve was a well-known POS when Meryl Streep led Hollywood in a standing ovation for him.
_____________ Meryl Streep was grateful for the action. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:30 PM (YqDXo) 93
88 He really is one ugly looking human being. I'd have to say he would never get a female to have sex with him willingly.
maybe he had a really great personality? Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 25, 2024 02:30 PM (s3qiR) 94
Ficus was great on the Quark show.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 25, 2024 02:30 PM (oOdkd) 95
The casting couch is still in use because the casting couch still works. If you decide your dignity and self respect are worth less than a chance at playing dress-up and make-believe for a (good) living, well...?!?
(Assuming any of them got to that level or stage with any dignity or self-respect left.) Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 02:31 PM (pgwxJ) 96
They botched his case, and the cops planted evidence. Which is why he was acquitted, not because the jurors were sticking it to the "white man."
Posted by: BurtTC ------------------------ I watched every minute of the trial. The cops and the DAs were a disgrace. Lying, contradicting, fabricating bastards. If they had done their job by the book they would have won the case. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 02:31 PM (lCWOD) 97
On OJ, Lefties weren't happy that a rich famous person had got away with murder just because he was black. What they were actually happy about was that he'd killed a pretty rich blonde woman and got away with it, thereby "pwning the whites".
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:31 PM (RQM8P) 98
Harvey Weinstein was the ORANGEMANBAD of #metoo. He was loved, respected, powerful within the system and then... something changed and he was public enemy #1.
Is there anything you wouldn't do to stop Hitler Weinstein? Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:19 PM (IUd0M) They had to make him duh Devil, because the Women involved will NEVER admit to any culpability via their behavior. None of this was a secret. Hollywood KNEW what he was doing, and 'some' would pay that price, for a foot in the door. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2024 02:31 PM (xaFKb) 99
It seems that the NY state justice system is not as robust as the tv shows would have us believe.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (PHukT) 100
it's actually worse than that, the crime they boot strapped it to to make it a felony to extend the staute of limitations is a state law about running for state office.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:30 PM (CIS44) ------ Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York? Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (JeYYB) 101
They botched his case, and the cops planted evidence. Which is why he was acquitted, not because the jurors were sticking it to the "white man."
Posted by: BurtTC ---- Except if you see some of the jurors in that case interviewed, they say themselves, in so many words, that they were sticking it to the white man. Not sure how this is difficult. Posted by: ballistic at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (oqH4h) 102
I wasn't Johnny Cochran what won the case, it was Alan Dershowitz and Barry Schect.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (lCWOD) 103
President Donald J. Trump hardest hit ...
Posted by: ShainS ------ Vice versa, Trump's prosecutors are the hardest hit. It undermines their pattern of behavior and character assassination disguised as evidence. They are relying on 2015-2016 testimony which is past the statute of limitations for the misdemeanors of false business reporting based on payments to Stormy, McDougal, etc. This is being used to argue a pattern of Trump misbehavior led to the conduct of Trump misleading the population so that they would have voted for Killary in 2016. To that level, they are trying to apply a NYS statute that deals with state elections to make the misreporting of financials from Trump Inc (categorizing campaign expenditures as legal ones) which is the whole 34 count bullshit where each check payment to Cohen is alleged to have benefited Trump illegally in the 2016 election. FEC and the Feds already investigated and declined to charge--even the tainted SDNY Trump haters did so. So can Bragg change a state statute to apply to federal elections (which actually creates a federal appellate question to the whole deal) and now has this appellate court ruling undermining his case. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (/AKWf) 104
Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
Posted by: Seems Legit at other than ORANGEMANBAD TDS? Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (CIS44) 105
Harvey Weinstein's 1969 school photo shows a young, good looking guy.
As has been said in at least one movie about a 30yo woman, half way between ripe and rotten. He didn't always look like a monster, most don't. If his looks and not his actions convicted him heaven help the ugly. Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (F3Dlr) 106
Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (JeYYB) Being Trump Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (Akjoo) 107
100 Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (JeYYB) ======== Being an enemy of the American IC. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (GBKbO) 108
You can point at New York and laugh all you want. They may be the worst, but Democrats are corrupting and subverting the courts wherever they can get their jurists on the bench. It has become essential to foisting their agenda on the people. I just listened to possibly the dumbest jurist ever appointed to SCOTUS by Democrats, Jackson, have her ass intellectually handed to her again today. They don't care. They're not embarrassed. They have an agenda and that's all that matters. Not law. Not constitution. Not tradition. Not right or wrong. Justice for Democrats isn't blind. It is fully focused on using its vision to attack its detractors.
Posted by: Vengeance at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (33Ta2) 109
The prohibition of "Prior Bad Acts" evidence is ironic. Often the best evidence that the defendant is guilty of the currently alleged conduct is that he has a history of such conduct. Yet the jury is generally not allowed to hear about it. It's one of the many paradoxes of jurisprudence.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (iFTx/) 110
Except if you see some of the jurors in that case interviewed, they say themselves, in so many words, that they were sticking it to the white man.
Not sure how this is difficult. Posted by: ballistic at A A Juror said (paraphrasing) this verdict was in response to Rodney King Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (CIS44) 111
"Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?"
Heh. Alvin Bragg can't even do that. Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 02:34 PM (pgwxJ) 112
104 Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
Posted by: Seems Legit at The news tells me it was hush money payments to porn stars. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 02:34 PM (PHukT) 113
But there are no consequences for the ruling class. They get a "scolding" and then go on to do the same thing again.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 25, 2024 02:20 PM (N1tpc) ------------- * The Clintons, The DogEater & His Wingman, James Comey, John Brennan, Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissmann, and a whole of serial traitors too long to list have entered the chat * Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 02:34 PM (yZP7y) 114
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Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York? Posted by: Seems Legit ------------ He ruins their grafty punchbowl. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 02:34 PM (lCWOD) 115
95 The casting couch is still in use because the casting couch still works. If you decide your dignity and self respect are worth less than a chance at playing dress-up and make-believe for a (good) living, well...?!?
(Assuming any of them got to that level or stage with any dignity or self-respect left.) Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 02:31 PM (pgwxJ) ++++ Sex becomes a mechanical business deal and both parties know what they are. Can't be good for one's morale, on either side. Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 02:34 PM (F6UFz) 116
If OJ wasn't a "makeup verdict" why was the Left so fucking elated about it?
And don't tell me they weren't. I was in a room full of hundreds of them and they cheered like they'd won the super bowl. Disclgraceful commie shitstains. I thought I was on another planet. But only because back then I was too young and dumb to understand what the Left was. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:34 PM (RQM8P) 117
The news tells me it was hush money payments to porn stars.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a crime Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:35 PM (CIS44) 118
A Juror said (paraphrasing) this verdict was in response to Rodney King
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (CIS44) ------ This is the juror I heard. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:35 PM (JeYYB) 119
Did the alleged rape occur in Manhattan?
Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (rj6Yv) Bergdorf Goodman. That's where they be rapin' errybody! Posted by: Hide your kids, hide your wife! at April 25, 2024 02:35 PM (Wc83a) 120
not a crime
Posted by: BruceWayne Are you telling me the news is wrong, sir? I shannot believe it! Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 02:35 PM (PHukT) 121
The issue of "prior bad acts" testimony was also raised in Bill Cosby's successful appeal of his sexual assault conviction in Pennsylvania.
.. that's not really how Cosby "got off". It seemed that a previous DA had made an offer to Cosby to testify in a civil suit, which in turn the DZ would not prosecute Cosby criminally. Cosby did testify. The next DA just ignored the "deal" and prosecuted Cosby anyway. Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled the "deal" was still in force, so there was no conviction. Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 02:36 PM (RHGPo) 122
Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (JeYYB) Being Trump Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (Akjoo) --- Being the main source of TDS to so many coastal elites. They hate that. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 02:36 PM (OaZlZ) 123
They are more so pointing out the courts in New York are the most corrupt in our nation...
Posted by: Vengeance at April 25, 2024 02:27 PM (33Ta2) Hey, hey, hey! What are we, chopped liver? -- DC courts Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:36 PM (IUd0M) 124
Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (JeYYB) He once drank straight from an orange juice bottle then put it back in the fridge. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:36 PM (RQM8P) 125
They had to make him duh Devil, because the Women involved will NEVER admit to any culpability via their behavior.
None of this was a secret. Hollywood KNEW what he was doing, and 'some' would pay that price, for a foot in the door. Posted by: Romeo13 ------- Harvey being Harvey, I do suspect he sexually assaulted some of them because he got used to getting what he wanted. Just because some floozy actresses climbed into bed with him willingly does not mean all of them did so. His pursuit of one actress in France for the Cannes Festival (Mira Sorvino maybe) was particularly appalling and he blackballed her in the industry when she would not give into the bastard. That is both a civil and criminal matter. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:36 PM (/AKWf) 126
117 The news tells me it was hush money payments to porn stars.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a crime Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:35 PM (CIS44) -------- Right. I seriously don't know what he's on trial for. Something about hush money, but didn't what's her name write a letter stating their affair never happened? I don't get it. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:36 PM (JeYYB) 127
118 A Juror said (paraphrasing) this verdict was in response to Rodney King
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (CIS44) I thought reginald denny paid the price for that sin? Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 02:37 PM (PHukT) 128
If OJ wasn't a "makeup verdict" why was the Left so fucking elated about it?
And don't tell me they weren't. I was in a room full of hundreds of them and they cheered like they'd won the super bowl. Disclgraceful commie shitstains. I thought I was on another planet. But only because back then I was too young and dumb to understand what the Left was. Posted by: ... at I was in class at a school that was about 50/50 white/black we watched the verdict come in. half the class jumped up and cheered, half groaned and rolled their eyes. I'll allow you to draw your own conclusions as to who did what. Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:37 PM (CIS44) 129
The news tells me it was hush money payments to porn stars.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a crime Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:35 PM (CIS44) In Soviet Amerika, crime commits you. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:37 PM (RQM8P) 130
Weinstein's ex-wife Georgina Chapman is gorgeous. It's amazing what type of woman an ugly man can get if he's loaded and connected. She runs a fashion line now and maybe needed his $$ and connections to get that off the ground.
Posted by: Cheri at April Marchesa was part of the whole kerfuffle. Everyone was wearing it on the red carpet, because Weinstein told them they had to do so. It tanked with Weinstein. She divorced him and friend to come back. They still exist, but you don’t see it worn like you used to. Posted by: Piper at April 25, 2024 02:37 PM (ZdaMQ) 131
Oprah sure liked herself some Weinstein.
She liked a lot of sickos. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:29 PM (JeYYB) And now she's a billionaire. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:37 PM (IUd0M) 132
"Sex becomes a mechanical business deal and both parties know what they are. Can't be good for one's morale, on either side."
Acknowledged. I personally can't view sex through that lens. Too much of a romantic. Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 25, 2024 02:38 PM (pgwxJ) 133
Right, he is a scumbag but he did not get a fair trial. You know who else got the most unfair trial I have ever witnessed and is not even being given an appeal? A certain coo in Minnesota
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 02:38 PM (FQmDC) 134
Okay - Trump was convicted of defamation on FAR less evidence that presented in the Harvey Weinstein trial.
Not only that, but he was convicted of "defamation" by saying he didn't sexually assault E. Jean Carroll. yes, by defending himself against the allegations he "defamed" her. Then he was told to pay, what $5 million, in damages. Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at April 25, 2024 02:38 PM (nLFEI) 135
I thought I was on another planet. But only because back then I was too young and dumb to understand what the Left was.
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:34 PM (RQM8P) I was in the Navy in San Diego at the time. They put us on alert, and restricted us to base the day of the verdict. We were on call for Riot Duty. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2024 02:38 PM (xaFKb) 136
Right, he is a scumbag but he did not get a fair trial. You know who else got the most unfair trial I have ever witnessed and is not even being given an appeal? A certain coo in Minnesota
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 02:38 PM (FQmDC) Yeah, you can still get a semblance of justice... if you have enough money for bunches of appeals. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 02:39 PM (N1tpc) 137
And now she's a billionaire.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:37 PM (IUd0M) ----- D'OH! Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:39 PM (JeYYB) 138
This is the juror I heard.
Posted by: Seems Legit -------------------------- The KeyStone kops made it easy for them to say that. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 02:39 PM (lCWOD) 139
I was in class at a school that was about 50/50 white/black we watched the verdict come in. half the class jumped up and cheered, half groaned and rolled their eyes. I'll allow you to draw your own conclusions as to who did what.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:37 PM (CIS44) Heard that from others but my room was full of rich white privileged leftist shitstains on the ass of humanity. Was your room fully leftarded or just.... half of them Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:39 PM (RQM8P) 140
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He once drank straight from an orange juice bottle then put it back in the fridge. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:36 It was milk. But not just any milk. Chocolate milk. And we all know why! Posted by: Piper at April 25, 2024 02:40 PM (ZdaMQ) 141
Then he was told to pay, what $5 million, in damages.
Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at April 25, 2024 02:38 PM (nLFEI) ------ I thought it was something insane like 250,000,000. I don't know shit. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:40 PM (JeYYB) 142
The news tells me it was hush money payments to porn stars.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy ________________ A patent lawyer where I used to work was fired for incompetence (God knows, justifiably), but she was connected, and the company paid her hush money just because they didn't want the bad publicity. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:40 PM (YqDXo) 143
Weinstein wasn't guilty of anything more than the typical casting-couch sleazy business that happens in producers and directors' rooms every day across the country. The NYC trial was indeed a railroading to appease MeToo, and the appeals court rightfully threw it out.
Harv is a fucking pig, but that's not illegal. And there was no shortage of THOTs eager to fuck him for career advancement. The California case wasn't much better. His THOT accuser accused him of raping her when she inexplicably went to his hotel room for an "interview" (or some similar obviously red-flag situation). Then -- as she admitted -- she began a consensual relationship with him. Yes, that was her testimony: she started dating her rapist. Then, she claims, he raped her again! Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 02:41 PM (iFTx/) 144
@103
>>They are relying on 2015-2016 testimony which is past the statute of limitations for the misdemeanors of false business reporting based on payments to Stormy, McDougal, The documents in question are not forward facing documents that would be proffered in an audit or any sort of financial accounting or filing, they were essentially inter-business diaries. The only reason anyone knows about them is because of Michael Cohen. So ipso facto these entries could not have been made to cover for a crime BECAUESE NO ONE WOULD HAVE SEEN THE F***KING ENTRIES!!!! Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 25, 2024 02:41 PM (JIdXK) 145
The prohibition of "Prior Bad Acts" evidence is ironic. Often the best evidence that the defendant is guilty of the currently alleged conduct is that he has a history of such conduct. Yet the jury is generally not allowed to hear about it. It's one of the many paradoxes of jurisprudence.
Posted by: Elric Blade ========= Criminal has a higher standard on character evidence that does civil. Actually has a logical basis to it if you view each trial as only pertaining to the facts of the case at hand rather than whether the person is a 'bad' un that needs to be locked up whether or not they did the crime at hand. Nothing pisses an old lag off more than being accused and convicted of a crime they did not commit. Many of them will more or less admit sotte voce that they got what was coming in just convictions but they cannot stand being convicted for things they did not do. For a long time, that is how sloppy cops solved crimes--they go to the persons likely to have committed the crimes on past behavior and if necessary build a case to frame them because the cops reason even if they did not do it, they should be locked up to prevent the inevitable future crimes from the perp Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:41 PM (/AKWf) 146
124 Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (JeYYB) --- Two. Scoops. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 02:41 PM (OaZlZ) 147
This is always the pitch: We have to break the rules to convict this defendant for political reasons.
----------- Facts vs. feelz Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 02:41 PM (Be/+i) 148
Right, he is a scumbag but he did not get a fair trial. You know who else got the most unfair trial I have ever witnessed and is not even being given an appeal? A certain cop in Minnesota
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 02:38 PM (FQmDC) ______________ This. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 02:41 PM (YqDXo) 149
Bank of America, Chase, U.S. Bank, Wells Fargo, Citi Bank and Truist, Charles Schwab, HSBC, MUFG, PayPal, Santander, Standard Chartered and Western Union have all been asked to turn over documents and communications with FinCEN and the FBI
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 02:42 PM (RHGPo) 150
I told him, more than once. If you want your freedom you dispatch the witnesses and plaintiffs. But, he had to do it the hard way.
Say, is that a Boy's School over there? Be back later. Posted by: Kevin Spacey at April 25, 2024 02:42 PM (dIske) 151
lol, my husband was compared to a young James Dean when I married him.
I hope I'm not judged for marrying him by his looks now. Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 02:42 PM (F3Dlr) 152
Right.
I seriously don't know what he's on trial for. Something about hush money, but didn't what's her name write a letter stating their affair never happened? I don't get it. Posted by: Seems Legit at In essence, his lawyer recorded the payment in a ledger 'incorrectly' (this is debatable), all the counts stem from everytime this ledger was altered or amended or emailed etc. this happened in 2017 the statute of limitations ran out in 2019. so they strapped it to another crime to claim it was in furtherance to up it to a felony. that crime was FINALLY outed this week. a state law about running for state office (bragg was trying to claim it is a campaign finance violation) he duped the voters cause they should have know, it was fraud (is braggs underlying claim) BUT the election was in 2016 this happened in 2017, the bootstrapped crime is a state election thing he was running for federal office. The FEC looked at it and said nope nothing illegal here. IF he had used campaign funds that would have been illegal. That's the best I can sum it up. It's all beyond bullshit. Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:42 PM (CIS44) 153
The documents in question are not forward facing documents that would be proffered in an audit or any sort of financial accounting or filing, they were essentially inter-business diaries.
The only reason anyone knows about them is because of Michael Cohen. So ipso facto these entries could not have been made to cover for a crime BECAUESE NO ONE WOULD HAVE SEEN THE F***KING ENTRIES!!!! Posted by: Thomas Bender Yes, it is only a DIE prosecutor, Bragg that is willing to do so for fame and fortune. Cyrus Vance Jr retired instead of doing so. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:43 PM (/AKWf) 154
That's the best I can sum it up. It's all beyond bullshit.
Posted by: BruceWayne ====== Did a good job, better than I did about summing it up. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:43 PM (/AKWf) 155
Heard that from others but my room was full of rich white privileged leftist shitstains on the ass of humanity.
Was your room fully leftarded or just.... half of them Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 hs so prly most not even politically aware. Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:43 PM (CIS44) 156
I thought it was something insane like 250,000,000.
I don't know shit. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:40 PM (JeYYB) Different case... one is for defending himself against a false rape charge. Other is a made up charge for fraud that never existed and had no victim. Not to be confused with the other 7 or so court cases going on right now.... Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2024 02:44 PM (xaFKb) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 25, 2024 02:44 PM (i24o9) 158
Yeah, I'm a little emaciated these days
Posted by: James Dean at April 25, 2024 02:44 PM (gKWVE) 159
119 Did the alleged rape occur in Manhattan?
Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2024 02:18 PM (rj6Yv) Bergdorf Goodman. That's where they be rapin' errybody! Posted by: Hide your kids, hide your wife! at April 25, 2024 02:35 PM (Wc83a) ____________ It was the exact plot of a Law & Order episode. The alleged rape in the episode was so similar -- practically identical -- to Crazy Carrol's bullshit story that there's no way it's a coincidence. Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 02:44 PM (iFTx/) 160
12 Just in case you had doubts about there being two sets of laws....
Hopefully this means we'll get hot chicks in movies showing their tits again. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 25, 2024 02:16 PM (xcxpd) My eyes are up here... Posted by: Sydney Sweeny at April 25, 2024 02:44 PM (53oGX) 161
In essence, his lawyer recorded the payment in a ledger 'incorrectly' (this is debatable), all the counts stem from everytime this ledger was altered or amended or emailed etc. this happened in 2017 the statute of limitations ran out in 2019. so they strapped it to another crime to claim it was in furtherance to up it to a felony. that crime was FINALLY outed this week. a state law about running for state office (bragg was trying to claim it is a campaign finance violation)
he duped the voters cause they should have know, it was fraud (is braggs underlying claim) BUT the election was in 2016 this happened in 2017, the bootstrapped crime is a state election thing he was running for federal office. The FEC looked at it and said nope nothing illegal here. IF he had used campaign funds that would have been illegal. --------- I had to read it twice. I don't think I'm confused I think I'm confounded. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (JeYYB) 162
149 Bank of America, Chase, U.S. Bank, Wells Fargo, Citi Bank and Truist, Charles Schwab, HSBC, MUFG, PayPal, Santander, Standard Chartered and Western Union have all been asked to turn over documents and communications with FinCEN and the FBI
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 02:42 PM (RHGPo) Surprised TD Bank isn't on the list. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (N39Ws) 163
Weinstein wasn't guilty of anything more than the typical casting-couch sleazy business that happens in producers and directors' rooms every day across the country
Elric Blade --------- LMAO he was accused of punching a woman in the face and spitting on her while raping her in his hotel room. Let's please relax. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (RQM8P) 164
Weinstein had a long time consensual relationship with an Italian actress IIRC. She decided years after it was over that it really wasn’t consensual and he had raped her.
This is the quandary that juries are put in when deciding whether rape occurred between people who know each other and it’s a he said she said scenario. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (MNhXM) 165
A Juror said (paraphrasing) this verdict was in response to Rodney King
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:33 PM (CIS44) I wonder if that juror has even gone back and advocated for imprisoning all the members of the major media outlets for lying about Rodney King. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:46 PM (IUd0M) 166
How many successful actresses got their start due to servicing old Harv? Not like he is the only one either.
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 02:47 PM (FQmDC) 167
Yeah, I'm a little emaciated these days
Posted by: James Dean News Alert - if you are 30yo most people think of you as half way between ripe and rotten. This crap of looks makes you subject to ridicule/guilt will come back to haunt most, unless they die young and leave a good looking corpse. Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 02:47 PM (F3Dlr) 168
Weinstein is a disgusting POS, but they mis-handled his first trial
Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2024 02:47 PM (Akjoo) 169
Hey, yourself. Hope all is well.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 25, 2024 02:44 PM (i24o9) We're muttering through. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:47 PM (RQM8P) 170
LMAO he was accused of punching a woman in the face and spitting on her while raping her in his hotel room. Let's please relax.
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (RQM8P) Accused years later. The Duke LaCrosse team was accused of violent gang rape too. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 02:47 PM (MNhXM) 171
This is the quandary that juries are put in when deciding whether rape occurred between people who know each other and it’s a he said she said scenario.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (MNhXM) Dat thit is thupid Posted by: Mike Tythn at April 25, 2024 02:48 PM (NtVYv) 172
It was the exact plot of a Law & Order episode. The alleged rape in the episode was so similar -- practically identical -- to Crazy Carrol's bullshit story that there's no way it's a coincidence.
Posted by: Elric Blade a except she didnt want to press charges cause she didnt want to be racist and that young man must have been a victim too Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:48 PM (CIS44) 173
I thought reginald denny paid the price for that sin?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2024 02:37 PM (PHukT) -------------- "He was like one one-billionth of the problem, h8r! Reparations be costly, yo ..." Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 02:48 PM (yZP7y) 174
Ficus Fucker beat the rap.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 25, 2024 02:48 PM (R4t5M) 175
148 Right, he is a scumbag but he did not get a fair trial. You know who else got the most unfair trial I have ever witnessed and is not even being given an appeal? A certain cop in Minnesota
Posted by: steevy ------------------------- You should have been here during the trial. Many were ready to hang him for raping poor little innocent girls. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 02:48 PM (lCWOD) 176
124 Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:32 PM (JeYYB) Beating Hillary. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:49 PM (RQM8P) 177
163 Weinstein wasn't guilty of anything more than the typical casting-couch sleazy business that happens in producers and directors' rooms every day across the country
Elric Blade --------- LMAO he was accused of punching a woman in the face and spitting on her while raping her in his hotel room. Let's please relax. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (RQM8P) ________ Link? He was not convicted of any of such conduct and I don't think it was even presented at a trial. I'm sure a lot of women accused him of a lot of things once he became a target and money was being paid. Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 02:49 PM (iFTx/) 178
Harvey being Harvey, I do suspect he sexually assaulted some of them because he got used to getting what he wanted. Just because some floozy actresses climbed into bed with him willingly does not mean all of them did so.
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:36 PM (/AKWf) Maybe. But you cannot convict someone over something you suspect. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:49 PM (IUd0M) Posted by: nurse ratched at April 25, 2024 02:49 PM (9w3M/) 180
OT, but worth a view.
How many WWII vets are alive today (by country) https://tinyurl.com/yt4w6z6f Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2024 02:49 PM (CsUN+) 181
I wonder if that juror has even gone back and advocated for imprisoning all the members of the major media outlets for lying about Rodney King.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at you know the answer to that. Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:50 PM (CIS44) 182
There's a rule that you can't put on evidence of prior "bad acts" to prove that a defendant committed the specific bad acts he's being tried for in the present case.
____ Eh, that rule applies whenever we feel like it. Feel free to do this to Trump. Posted by: NY Court of Appeals at April 25, 2024 02:50 PM (4hHmM) 183
LMAO he was accused of punching a woman in the face and spitting on her while raping her in his hotel room. Let's please relax. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (RQM8P) ++++ Did she make a police report on the spot or did this come out decades later. I don't disbelieve it, he probably exploded due to his inner rage of being so ugly. Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 02:50 PM (F6UFz) 184
Flounder- I hope you are feeling better.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 25, 2024 02:50 PM (R4t5M) 185
This is the quandary that juries are put in when deciding whether rape occurred between people who know each other and it’s a he said she said scenario.
Posted by: polynikes -------- That is why he said she said still go to trial. Rape of spouse used to be absolutely barred from criminal action by states. The idea at the time was that consent was rendered when the marriage occurred and the the court should not be involved in domestic spats. Even until recently legally speaking, spouses had an absolute bar on being able to testify against their spouse. This made criminal charges of domestic abuse particularly difficult as you had to have third party witnesses willing to testify instead of teh direct victim. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:50 PM (/AKWf) 186
180 OT, but worth a view.
How many WWII vets are alive today (by country) https://tinyurl.com/yt4w6z6f Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2024 02:49 PM (CsUN+) ------- Gulp. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:51 PM (JeYYB) 187
But hold Trump.on minor charges long after the fact
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2024 02:51 PM (mb6GH) 188
My gulp was my inarticulate way of saying, that was an great picture.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:51 PM (JeYYB) 189
Weinstein is a repulsive piece of shit. But. He's representative of Hollywood. They can keep him. And they can make excuses for him. And they can forgive him and celebrate him and give him another award.
Good for them. Posted by: nurse ratched at April 25, 2024 02:51 PM (9w3M/) 190
LMAO he was accused of punching a woman in the face and spitting on her while raping her in his hotel room. Let's please relax.
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (RQM8P) --- Yeah, but there might have been a safeword she wasn't saying. Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 02:52 PM (OaZlZ) 191
I copied the wrong frame.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 02:52 PM (lCWOD) 192
LMAO he was accused of punching a woman in the face and spitting on her while raping her in his hotel room. Let's please relax.
Posted by: ... at So was Trevor Bauer and the woman is a lying sack of shit now indicted for fraud Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:52 PM (CIS44) 193
If Weinstein looked like Paul Newman or Brad Pitt or Zac Efron the sentiment might be much different.
Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 02:52 PM (F3Dlr) 194
How are the little flounders? Is baseball season in full swing?
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 25, 2024 02:49 PM (9w3M/) Hell yeah. L2 got two hits, 1 double, 1 single with error, 2 RBI, and lots of heads up play as pitcher and catcher. First win, 7-6 in 6. Out defense was on fire, with a deep CF catch by a weaker kid who I practiced a bit more with on catching just before game. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 25, 2024 02:53 PM (i24o9) 195
Accused years later. The Duke LaCrosse team was accused of violent gang rape too.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 02:47 PM (MNhXM) They all knew what he was. I certainly don't "believe all women" but it was more credible than that bs. My point is I'm not comfortable with the assumption that Weinstein was just a boys will be boys sexist pig trading favors, nor defending a POS bigtime Democrat obvious scumbag like that just to pwn libs. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:53 PM (RQM8P) 196
So was Trevor Bauer and the woman is a lying sack of shit now indicted for fraud
Well I have no doubt he choked her....when she said 'choke me daddy" as they were banging Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 02:53 PM (FQmDC) 197
Interesting to think many a young lass got their careers off the ground by blowing Weinstein. Wasn't Jennifer Laurence a fan of his? Just thinking out loud.
And others had to blow him and got nothing. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:54 PM (JeYYB) 198
193 If Weinstein looked like Paul Newman or Brad Pitt or Zac Efron the sentiment might be much different.
Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 02:52 PM (F3Dlr) Tom Brady still the best skit SNL ever did and ever will do. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 02:54 PM (MNhXM) 199
170 LMAO he was accused of punching a woman in the face and spitting on her while raping her in his hotel room. Let's please relax.
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:45 PM (RQM8P) _________________________ Was that wrong? Because, I gotta tell ya, no one said anything to me. Posted by: CosssssSTANZA at April 25, 2024 02:54 PM (dIske) 200
If Weinstein looked like Paul Newman or Brad Pitt or Zac Efron the sentiment might be much different.
Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 02:52 PM (F3Dlr) Or Kevin Spacey? Sometimes a vicious disgusting criminal pig is just a vicious disgusting criminal pig. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (RQM8P) 201
Maybe. But you cannot convict someone over something you suspect.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic ---------- Nope. did not say that. What I said, is that some commenters are going toward the position if the lady shows up at Harvey's hotel room it is to be considered consent for what Harvey does to them or to the poor ficus tree in front of them. That is an injustice just as arguing that whores cannot be raped. FWIW, I can go into song and verse about FRE 404 if you like and its corollaries that apply to witnesses. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (/AKWf) 202
Interesting to think many a young lass got their careers off the ground by blowing Weinstein. Wasn't Jennifer Laurence a fan of his? Just thinking out loud.
And others had to blow him and got nothing. Posted by: Seems Legit She still is, she was supporting him throughout the trials and such. She was also just photographed wearing a mask so........ Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (CIS44) 203
We all have our kinks but it was consensual
Vince McMahon Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (FQmDC) 204
Facts vs. feelz
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 02:41 PM (Be/+i) But in this case, the feelz ARE the facts!! Posted by: Doof at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (gtY/l) 205
Flounder- I hope you are feeling better.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 25, 2024 02:50 PM (R4t5M) Thanks for asking. I went off one of the meds, metoprolol (without Dr. instruction), got my energy back, and nearly back to pre-weight. Feeling good and looking the part. I hope all is well with you. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (i24o9) 206
104 Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York?
--- Sure. In 2016, Stormy Daniels let it be known that she was going to allege her and Trump had an affair. Micheal Cohen, Trump's lawyer at the time, got wind of it and made her a deal: Cash to keep quite. National Enquirer got wind of that deal with Stormy. Cohen then paid them to spike it. Cohen billed Trump for "legal services." Trump, Inc entered the payment in the business ledger as same, "legal services." At some point, certainly after Trump, Inc paid, but definitely not before, Trump may have been told, "those payments were to Stormy and the Enquirer." This was felony fraud on the poor people of New York state _who _voted_FOR_Trump_ as those ledger entries were 1) indirect campaign expenditures that 2) should have been reported on FEC reports (an illegal campaign expenditure) that 3) deceived those Trump voters into voting for him had they but known he paid Stormy and the Enquirer. These alleged false entries are a misdemeanor punishable only by a fine. And the statute of limitations has passed. Unless they are done to further a second crime. Which has a longer limitations. Except .... Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 02:56 PM (yikga) 207
202 She still is, she was supporting him throughout the trials and such. She was also just photographed wearing a mask so........
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (CIS44) ======= Weinstein got her her Oscar for Silver Linings Playbook. She went nuclear during the Fappening against people who viewed her pictures, calling it sexual assault, and never said a word against Weinstein. When Weinstein blew up, she quietly announced a break from acting for a year when she was going to get in touch with her inner activist. Yeah, she did things with Weinstein. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:56 PM (GBKbO) 208
197 Interesting to think many a young lass got their careers off the ground by blowing Weinstein. Wasn't Jennifer Laurence a fan of his? Just thinking out loud.
And others had to blow him and got nothing. Posted by: Seems Legit --------- And those that declined to have anything to do with Harvey's sexual activities were blackballed from the industry like Mira Sorvino. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:56 PM (/AKWf) 209
I wonder if that juror has even gone back and advocated for imprisoning all the members of the major media outlets for lying about Rodney King.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 02:46 PM (IUd0M) -------------- There should be monuments in every blue shithole to Rodney King and St. George Floyd french-kissing a oa Brezhnev and Honecker in that famous Berlin Wall graffiti art. Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 02:57 PM (f1PpG) 210
197 Interesting to think many a young lass got their careers off the ground by blowing Weinstein. Wasn't Jennifer Laurence a fan of his? Just thinking out loud.
And others had to blow him and got nothing. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 02:54 PM (JeYYB) __________________________________ You have to wonder about Anne Hathaway. I know at least one actress got blacklisted for turning him away. What's his name's daughter.... ah, Mira Sorvino. Posted by: Orson at April 25, 2024 02:57 PM (dIske) 211
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (/AKWf)
No that’s your incorrect opinion of what posters are saying. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 02:57 PM (MNhXM) 212
Can a ficus give consent ?
Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at April 25, 2024 02:57 PM (+x87d) 213
My point is I'm not comfortable with the assumption that Weinstein was just a boys will be boys sexist pig trading favors, nor defending a POS bigtime Democrat obvious scumbag like that just to pwn libs.
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 02:53 PM (RQM8P) Yeah, my only position is that his trial was not impartial by the rules that our ruling class have set. He might very well be guilty of everything he's accused of- he is a pretty awful person and I'm pretty sure he's guilty of a lot. However, in a just country, you still have to prove it under the rule of law and the prosecutors/judges bent the law because getting him was more important. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 02:58 PM (N1tpc) 214
Yeah, she did things with Weinstein.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison ------- And apparently Meryl Streep along with a few other female Oscar winners. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:58 PM (/AKWf) 215
208 197 Interesting to think many a young lass got their careers off the ground by blowing Weinstein. Wasn't Jennifer Laurence a fan of his? Just thinking out loud.
And others had to blow him and got nothing. Posted by: Seems Legit --------- And those that declined to have anything to do with Harvey's sexual activities were blackballed from the industry like Mira Sorvino. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:56 PM (/AKWf) The pictures of Emma Watson out and about with Harvey Weinstein were classic. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 02:58 PM (N39Ws) 216
I can go into song and verse about FRE 404 if you like and its corollaries that apply to witnesses.
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:55 PM (/AKWf) Please, no. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 25, 2024 02:58 PM (i24o9) 217
No consent needed from plants or animals
Cenk Uyghur Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2024 02:58 PM (FQmDC) 218
Sigh. Doing some training and the manual says to "click the ENTER key."
Not press. Not "strike" (old school now, my preference). No, I should "click" the key. Copy-editing doesn't happen anymore. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 02:58 PM (HnUIn) 219
Reporter- "What's it like seeing so many Republicans and Trump supporters in Manhattan? Does that surprise you?" Construction Worker, ""No- not at all- it's turning now" Reporter- "What's your message to Joe Biden?" Construction Worker- "F*&^% You!!"+
https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1783517791317864653 Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 02:59 PM (lCWOD) 220
Oh, come now. Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo raped 'oo...
Posted by: Monty Python at April 25, 2024 02:59 PM (jAber) 221
Yeah, she did things with Weinstein.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:56 PM (GBKbO) --- To quote a favorite Python sketch: What kind of things? Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2024 02:59 PM (OaZlZ) 222
This busty brunette in a dress never tried to break into acting, so she's never met Harvey Weinstein:
http://tiny.cc/4pxuxz Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 02:59 PM (HnUIn) 223
The Ficus was an FBI plant.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 25, 2024 02:59 PM (lf83v) 224
If Weinstein looked like Paul Newman or Brad Pitt or Zac Efron the sentiment might be much different.
Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 02:52 PM (F3Dlr) ____________ True, but good-looking guys were also accused of similar conduct. James Franco had a bunch of accusers. Even Zac Efron himself was accused of abusive conduct, although I don't think it was sexual. Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 02:59 PM (iFTx/) 225
219 Reporter- "What's it like seeing so many Republicans and Trump supporters in Manhattan? Does that surprise you?" Construction Worker, ""No- not at all- it's turning now" Reporter- "What's your message to Joe Biden?" Construction Worker- "F*&^% You!!"+
https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1783517791317864653 Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 02:59 PM (lCWOD) ====== "But when we get news reports of trucks full of ballots showing up to counting stations, we'll just yell at the TV and then complain that it wouldn't have happened with a better candidate." -Same Construction Worker Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 02:59 PM (GBKbO) 226
No that’s your incorrect opinion of what posters are saying.
Posted by: polynikes ------- Opinions vary so you cannot have an incorrect opinion by definition if you want to be pedantic. That is for the lefties. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 03:00 PM (/AKWf) 227
218 Sigh. Doing some training and the manual says to "click the ENTER key."
Not press. Not "strike" (old school now, my preference). No, I should "click" the key. Copy-editing doesn't happen anymore. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 02:58 PM (HnUIn) Or "Mash" the button. Popular down south. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2024 03:00 PM (N39Ws) 228
Did she make a police report on the spot or did this come out decades later. I don't disbelieve it, he probably exploded due to his inner rage of being so ugly.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 02:50 PM (F6UFz) I did say "accused". My point is jumping up to say he's no different than all those casting couch producers is rather a stretch. Even on the surface. I'm not gonna white knight for a very obvious POS like him. Pretty obvious he would eat you or me for dinner, literally, and don't forget the Left idolized and promoted the skunk while knowing everything he was, then dropped him when it got too convenient. He'd still be their scumbag hero had they not needed the whole Force is Female mindfuck bullshit in 2016. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:00 PM (RQM8P) 229
On the same day that Susan Sarandon called the Hamas rapes on October 7th a “myth?”
lol. Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humor? Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2024 03:00 PM (Hkcdp) 230
Sometimes a vicious disgusting criminal pig is just a vicious disgusting criminal pig.
Posted by: ... Agreed, as long as he/she is convicted of being a vicious disgusting pig and NOT on physical appearance or social shunning when convenient after a supportive group movement that absolves the victim's of prior active participation. Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 03:00 PM (F3Dlr) 231
I not saying anything alleged didn't happen. I'm of the opinion that he's scum and he did the things these women claim. My question is how'd he overpower them? He continuously looks weazy, a few minutes from a major cardiac emergency. Where they afraid of others too and if so why aren't the gang of people betting this slimeball also getting tossed in jail?
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 03:01 PM (Y6IkP) 232
Opinions vary so you cannot have an incorrect opinion by definition if you want to be pedantic.
That is for the lefties. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 03:00 PM (/AKWf) It’s my opinion you are incorrect so I said so. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 03:02 PM (MNhXM) 233
It’s my opinion you are incorrect so I said so.
Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 03:02 PM (MNhXM) It's ok. You're entitled to your wrong opinion. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 25, 2024 03:02 PM (N1tpc) 234
NASA administrator has ‘no idea’ why China is going to far side of moon that is ‘always in dark’
“What do you think the Chinese are trying to get at, at the back side of the moon?” Rep. David Trone (D-MD) asked NASA Administrator Bill Nelson at a congressional hearing last week. “They are going to have a lander on the far side of the moon, which is the side which is always in dark. Uh, we’re not planning to go there,” he said. .. say what ? Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (RHGPo) 235
You have to wonder about Anne Hathaway.
Posted by: Orson at April 25, 2024 02:57 PM (dIske) Wonder what? She has been a reasonably successful actress. She became over-the-top screechy about gay marriage, and anti-Catholic, when her brother came out. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (IUd0M) 236
Continued
Bragg has nowhere alleged or stated what the second crime is. And NY law specifically excludes federal campaigns and federal campaign law violations as the "second crime." But the judge is going to allow the jury to infer the commission of a second crime ... because the first crime-- the ledger entry-- was a crime and the only reason Trump committed that crime was to obviously commit a second crime. It's absolutely insane that anyone thinks this has any legal merit. It's 100% a political prosecution that proudly, defiantly stomps on all law, rules, regulations and norms. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (yikga) 237
My question is how'd he overpower them? He continuously looks weazy
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 03:01 PM (Y6IkP The hotel room accuser I alluded to was 98 pounds. Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (RQM8P) 238
And those that declined to have anything to do with Harvey's sexual activities were blackballed from the industry like Mira Sorvino.
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 02:56 PM (/AKWf) ------ I want to make it clear, I support Sorvino. She said no and props to her. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (JeYYB) 239
Somehow I think the fat fuck could take her.
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (RQM8P) 240
On the same day that Susan Sarandon called the Hamas rapes on October 7th a “myth?”
_______________ If only tits were brains. Wouldn't that be something? Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (YqDXo) 241
OK I spell like crap but it was "abetting" and autocucumber screwed me. It is always dumbing down my spelling changing real words to other smaller words.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 03:04 PM (Y6IkP) 242
Can anyone here succinctly tell me what Trump is on Trial for in New York? --- For beating Hillary Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 03:04 PM (63Dwl) 243
Pretty sure “click” is the preferred verb on the MS manual of style, but then you just say “Click Enter” (no t Enter button), Joe Mannix…
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2024 03:04 PM (Hkcdp) 244
I not saying anything alleged didn't happen. I'm of the opinion that he's scum and he did the things these women claim. My question is how'd he overpower them? He continuously looks weazy, a few minutes from a major cardiac emergency. Where they afraid of others too and if so why aren't the gang of people betting this slimeball also getting tossed in jail?
Posted by: banana Dream at April 25, 2024 03:01 PM (Y6IkP) ++++ Nobody likes to talk about how Hollywood works. Every person you see on screen - there are probably exceptions, but damn few of them - is a whore. Now did they go into the effort with their eyes open and the full knowledge that success would depend on being a whore? I don't know. Probably not all of them, surely some of them. When push came to shove and it was time to get bedded by Weinstein or one of his countless analogues, they decided to lay back and think of England. This is extremely sleazy. It might even be criminal - it is coercion at worst and quid pro quo at best. But it probably isn't assault or forcible rape. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (HnUIn) 245
Well she was reasonably hot in the 80s but still stark raving crazy
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (PXvVL) Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (RQM8P) 247
3) deceived those Trump voters into voting for him had they but known he paid Stormy and the Enquirer.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 02:56 PM (yikga) Better? Under that standard ANY Politician who lied to get elected, should be prosecuted for fraud? Biden? Hillary and Russian Collusion? need I go on... Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (xaFKb) 248
Hollywood is a special place. It's a place for disillusion and illusion.
It unlike those places in Mexico in that it doesn't have a wall around it. Sometimes, although rarely, and innocent stray meanders in. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (lCWOD) 249
Beware the slippery slope! If we start overturning convictions just for the prosecution being, umm, 'creative', where will it all end?
Posted by: FBI at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (710OU) 250
Pretty sure “click” is the preferred verb on the MS manual of style, but then you just say “Click Enter” (no t Enter button), Joe Mannix…
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2024 03:04 PM (Hkcdp) ++++ Microsoft is wrong. Keyboard keys are not "clicked." You "press" them or "strike" them. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (HnUIn) 251
247 Biden? Hillary and Russian Collusion? need I go on...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (xaFKb) ====== Russian collusion is true! Eric Trump had a 15 minute meeting with a Russian! And the Alfa Bank ping! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:06 PM (GBKbO) 252
Judge Madeline Singas should be removed as a judge.
1. She gives emotional reasons why the guy should remain convicted, not judge material. 2. Sh makes the case of: to get some 'justice' for women, we have this defendant, Let's find him guilty for the sake of putting the blame on someone for all past inequities. Posted by: Ciampino - Somebody served at April 25, 2024 03:06 PM (qfLjt) 253
Southwest Airlines to fire 2,000 employees and close operations at Bellingham International Airport, Cozumel International Airport, Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport, and Syracuse Hancock International Airport
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:06 PM (RHGPo) 254
234 NASA administrator has ‘no idea’ why China is going to far side of moon that is ‘always in dark’
“What do you think the Chinese are trying to get at, at the back side of the moon?” Rep. David Trone (D-MD) asked NASA Administrator Bill Nelson at a congressional hearing last week. “They are going to have a lander on the far side of the moon, which is the side which is always in dark. Uh, we’re not planning to go there,” he said. .. say what ? Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (RHGPo) Quick, somebody find Sheila Jackson Lee for her expert opinion! Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (PiwSw) 255
NASA administrator has ‘no idea’ why China is going to far side of moon that is ‘always in dark’ To develop photograhic film. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (63Dwl) 256
Southwest Airlines to fire 2,000 employees and close operations at Bellingham International Airport, Cozumel International Airport, Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport, and Syracuse Hancock International Airport
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:06 PM (RHGPo) George Bush is a surprise Posted by: Mike Tythn at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (NtVYv) 257
Odd, AOS has in the last few days dropped from first to come up on Google search(typing exact blog name in) to 20+ down in results. Wiki page on AOS is now top.
Posted by: KarlHungus at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (MhCcX) 258
To develop photograhic film.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (63Dwl) ++++ It's expensive to do for a single roll, but if you're doing it in bulk, it probably makes sense. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (HnUIn) 259
You have to go to the dark side of the moon to get at the long-ago deposited Transformers tech, duh!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (Hkcdp) 260
If a prostitute has sex with an ugly man, it's not his fault if she thinks the pay was too low.
And that's all #metoo was: Whores who wanted to renegotiate how much the john paid. You don't get your chastity back because you later feel dirty for what you did. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (yikga) 261
“What do you think the Chinese are trying to get at, at the back side of the moon?” Rep. David Trone (D-MD) asked NASA Administrator Bill Nelson at a congressional hearing last week. “They are going to have a lander on the far side of the moon, which is the side which is always in dark. Uh, we’re not planning to go there,” he said.
.. say what ? Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:03 PM (RHGPo) Well... Duh... that's where the Space Nazi base led by the Sarah Palin look alike is! Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (xaFKb) 262
258 To develop photograhic film.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (63Dwl) ++++ It's expensive to do for a single roll, but if you're doing it in bulk, it probably makes sense. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (HnUIn) ====== How will they power their red lights if they can't get solar? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (GBKbO) 263
How will they power their red lights if they can't get solar?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (GBKbO) ++++ Surplus EV batteries? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (HnUIn) 264
NASA administrator has ‘no idea’ why China is going to far side of moon that is ‘always in dark’
They heard there's a killer Laser Floyd show playing there. Posted by: spindrift at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (OguvZ) 265
George Bush is a surprise
Posted by: Mike Tythn at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (NtVYv) Not a big air travel guy but I thought Southwest was only at Hobby anyway. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2024 03:09 PM (MNhXM) 266
Ol' Harve was a well-known POS when Meryl Streep led Hollywood in a standing ovation for him.
In hindsight it should’ve been obvious when she suddenly was the lead in Oscar bait well after you’d have been expected her to be doing guest roles on NCIS or Law and Order. Posted by: Ian S. at April 25, 2024 03:09 PM (8n+VG) 267
257 Odd, AOS has in the last few days dropped from first to come up on Google search(typing exact blog name in) to 20+ down in results. Wiki page on AOS is now top.
Posted by: KarlHungus at April 25, 2024 03:07 PM (MhCcX) Check bounced? Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2024 03:09 PM (xaFKb) 268
Weinstein's a disgusting pig-man, for sure... But at the end of the day, this was a stable of whores claiming their pimp raped them. Tough case to make under any evidentiary rules.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2024 03:09 PM (0FoWg) 269
263 How will they power their red lights if they can't get solar?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (GBKbO) ++++ Surplus EV batteries? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (HnUIn) ====== Disposing of them is gonna be hard. Just throwing them onto the moon's surface would be pollution. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO) 270
NASA administrator has ‘no idea’ why China is going to far side of moon that is ‘always in dark’
----- And people wonder why there are NASA/Moon landing conspiracies. Hey, remember when NASA's main push was something about Muslims and their contribution to something. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:09 PM (JeYYB) 271
Supreme Court justices in Trump case lean toward some level of immunity
Lets face it, Congress has a Speech and Debate Clause to protect them, but if the POTUS doesn't have some level of immunity, then how do judges/prosecutors get any immunity ? Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:10 PM (RHGPo) 272
Agreed, Joe Mannix, but if they set the industry standard then proper grammar loses.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2024 03:10 PM (Hkcdp) 273
Odd, AOS has in the last few days dropped from first to come up on Google search(typing exact blog name in) to 20+ down in results. Wiki page on AOS is now top.
Pixy had a relevant link this morning. Google put the head of ad sales in charge of search in 2019 and it’s been all downhill. Posted by: Ian S. at April 25, 2024 03:10 PM (8n+VG) 274
Southwest Airlines to fire 2,000 employees and close operations at Bellingham International Airport, Cozumel International Airport, Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport, and Syracuse Hancock International Airport
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:06 PM (RHGPo) Another Pete Buttgig and the Biden economy success story. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (dGCAG) 275
270 Hey, remember when NASA's main push was something about Muslims and their contribution to something.
.. the latest crew for a Mars mission (simulation) contains no white guys Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (RHGPo) 276
but if they set the industry standard then proper grammar loses.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2024 03:10 PM (Hkcdp) ++++ It's still proper grammar, I suppose. I just hate it LOL Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (HnUIn) 277
231 I not saying anything alleged didn't happen. I'm of the opinion that he's scum and he did the things these women claim. My question is how'd he overpower them? He continuously looks weazy, a few minutes from a major cardiac emergency. Where they afraid of others too and if so why aren't the gang of people betting this slimeball also getting tossed in jail?
Posted by: banana Dream ======= Female versus male strength, even of an old out of shape pervert like Weinstein is an issue. Plus there is the whole power thing that often happens. You see similar issues with other powerful men and their sexual activities like Matt Lauer and his notorious button locking the office. Going down depravity road does not sate the hunger but increases it to reach the next level. For a lot of people, power over others is their aphrodisiac. Read an interview once where a senator was asked why he continued as a senator when he could make millions outside of Congress--the senator gave a demonstration of how he got to make his staff hop on his orders and then leaned back and told the reporter that is why he continued in office. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (/AKWf) 278
Syracuse Hancock International Airport
_______ How is Syracuse an international airport? They have ZERO international destinations. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (lf83v) 279
Nobody likes to talk about how Hollywood works. Every person you see on screen - there are probably exceptions, but damn few of them - is a whore. Now did they go into the effort with their eyes open and the full knowledge that success would depend on being a whore? I don't know. Probably not all of them, surely some of them.
When push came to shove and it was time to get bedded by Weinstein or one of his countless analogues, they decided to lay back and think of England. This is extremely sleazy. It might even be criminal - it is coercion at worst and quid pro quo at best. But it probably isn't assault or forcible rape. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (HnUIn) _________ That is how many industries work. Not just Hollywood. Wherever there is money and power and men in positions to wield it, you will find women willing -- eager, even -- to assume their own position for it. Finance, management, education, marketing, etc -- and above all, politics. From yacht girls to starlets to ambitious secretaries to college professor "assistants," sex is still a very big medium of exchange. Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/) 280
Southwest Airlines to fire 2,000 employees and close operations at Bellingham International Airport, Cozumel International Airport, Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport, and Syracuse Hancock International Airport
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:06 PM (RHGPo) Another Pete Buttgig and the Biden economy success story. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (dGCAG) It's a first step towards Biden's zero emissions transportation sector. Posted by: spindrift at April 25, 2024 03:12 PM (OguvZ) 281
Pixy had a relevant link this morning. Google put the head of ad sales in charge of search in 2019 and it’s been all downhill.
Posted by: Ian S. ----------- Yes and before that that particular guy ran Yahoo search into the ground until the tech was sold off for a pittance to Microsoft. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 03:12 PM (/AKWf) 282
Lets face it, Congress has a Speech and Debate Clause to protect them, but if the POTUS doesn't have some level of immunity, then how do judges/prosecutors get any immunity ?
Posted by: SMOD at April 25, 2024 03:10 PM (RHGPo) That's what happens when you put lawyers in charge of the law. Everyone other than lawyers get the shaft. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:12 PM (dGCAG) 283
Southwest Airlines to fire 2,000 employees and close operations at...
Not enough people responding to their email barrage of $49 flights (to places you would never go). Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2024 03:13 PM (WWBBV) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 03:13 PM (63Dwl) 285
Rochester, NY has a nice airport. I was surprised.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 25, 2024 03:13 PM (R4t5M) 286
NASA administrator has ‘no idea’ why China is going to far side of moon that is ‘always in dark’
__________ This is the same guy who noted that the Sun is too hot for us to fly there, so we should fly there at night. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 25, 2024 03:13 PM (lf83v) 287
The same people who were cheering people getting fired for not taking the shot, not wearing masks want us to feel bad that actors and actresses had to suck some D to keep their jobs ... or they might get fired.
I have no sympathy for them Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 25, 2024 03:13 PM (yikga) 288
NASA administrator has ‘no idea’ why China is going to far side of moon that is ‘always in dark’
------------- "Cuz dat's where the Black Martians are who planted da American Flag, h8r!" -- Mad Maxine Waters Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 25, 2024 03:13 PM (EDbIo) 289
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness Pikesville principal Eric Eiswert was caught on tape going on a racist rant. People called for his life to be destroyed. Turns out, the entire recording was fake and generated (using AI) by Dazhon Darien, the school's former athletic director. https://tinyurl.com/3zy4vh2h Posted by: redridinghood at April 25, 2024 03:13 PM (NpAcC) 290
Oh, forgot about the space Nazi settlement! And a T-Rex ,too, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2024 03:14 PM (Hkcdp) 291
That is how many industries work. Not just Hollywood. Wherever there is money and power and men in positions to wield it, you will find women willing -- eager, even -- to assume their own position for it. Finance, management, education, marketing, etc -- and above all, politics. From yacht girls to starlets to ambitious secretaries to college professor "assistants," sex is still a very big medium of exchange.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/) ++++ Once you have lots of money, I imagine it becomes even more desirable. Getting more money is pointless. Getting to fuck a startlet - or worse, getting to fuck a sex slave - is probably a much bigger thrill. The small-time landlord having trouble making ends meet probably won't accept a hummer from the cute 20-something in lieu of the rent. The big-time landlord with plenty of margin might. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:14 PM (HnUIn) 292
279 Nobody likes to talk about how Hollywood works. Every person you see on screen - there are probably exceptions, but damn few of them - is a whore. Now did they go into the effort with their eyes open and the full knowledge that success would depend on being a whore? I don't know. Probably not all of them, surely some of them.
When push came to shove and it was time to get bedded by Weinstein or one of his countless analogues, they decided to lay back and think of England. ------- LOL I think all celebrities are whores. This aligns with my beliefs therefore it is true. No, really, I think all celebrities are whores. Posted by: Seems Legit at April 25, 2024 03:14 PM (JeYYB) 293
How is Syracuse an international airport?
They have ZERO international destinations. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (lf83v) === Weekly flight to Toronto Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2024 03:14 PM (RIvkX) 294
You don't get your chastity back because you later feel dirty for what you did.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice Right to the point. A welcome masthead to remind the masses. Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 03:15 PM (F3Dlr) 295
262
How will they power their red lights if they can't get solar? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 25, 2024 03:08 PM (GBKbO) ---- A very long extension cord to the lightside? Posted by: Ciampino - did someone remember an adaptor for 3-pin plugs? at April 25, 2024 03:15 PM (qfLjt) 296
Everyone other than lawyers get the shaft.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:12 PM (dGCAG) ---- I'm generous that way. Posted by: Harvey Weinscum at April 25, 2024 03:15 PM (OaZlZ) 297
How is Syracuse an international airport?
They have ZERO international destinations. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (lf83v) ++++ When I used to fly through Syracuse many moons ago, there were short-hop flights to Canada and longer-hop flights to the Caribbean (Jamaica, I think, but it's been a long time). Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:15 PM (HnUIn) 298
278 Syracuse Hancock International Airport
_______ How is Syracuse an international airport? They have ZERO international destinations. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 25, 2024 03:11 PM (lf83v) Perhaps it should be renamed Syracuse Hancock International Transport. Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 25, 2024 03:15 PM (AwbAS) 299
Is it 5:30 yet? I want a drink.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 03:15 PM (lCWOD) 300
Nood
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 03:15 PM (2UnvF) 301
Ol' Harve was a well-known POS when Meryl Streep led Hollywood in a standing ovation for him. He'll always be the King of Coffee. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (63Dwl) 302
NASA administrator has ‘no idea’ why China is going to far side of moon that is ‘always in dark’
It's so they don't have to squint, Party of Science guy. Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2024 03:16 PM (WWBBV) 303
It's a first step towards Biden's zero emissions transportation sector.
Posted by: spindrift at April 25, 2024 03:12 PM (OguvZ) It'll be like during Covid, when all the fish returned to the water, and sheep were running through the streets. This time, the birds and bats will return to the skies. What a world that would be. Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (dGCAG) 304
279 Nobody likes to talk about how Hollywood works. Every person you see on screen - there are probably exceptions, but damn few of them - is a whore. Now did they go into the effort with their eyes open and the full knowledge that success would depend on being a whore? I don't know. Probably not all of them, surely some of them.
When push came to shove and it was time to get bedded by Weinstein or one of his countless analogues, they decided to lay back and think of England. This is extremely sleazy. It might even be criminal - it is coercion at worst and quid pro quo at best. But it probably isn't assault or forcible rape. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 25, 2024 03:05 PM (HnUIn) _________ ++++ The ironic thing is that Hollywood has been making pictures about this very subject since they began. Many movies of the 30's depict a young good-looking starlet being propositioned by a wealthy old geezer and what actions were taken, either to succumb to the good life at a high price, or go with her morals and upbringing. A lot of them with this theme. Posted by: washrivergal at April 25, 2024 03:18 PM (F6UFz) 305
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LOL I think all celebrities are whores. This aligns with my beliefs therefore it is true. No, really, I think all celebrities are whores. Posted by: Seems Legit --------------------------------- They are broke in before they finish their first year of extracurricular drama classes. Posted by: Braenyard at April 25, 2024 03:19 PM (lCWOD) 306
I remember they tried to prosecute Don Jr for accepting an Outlook meeting. Then there's Hunter...
Posted by: ... at April 25, 2024 03:19 PM (RQM8P) 307
Hollywood has been all about sexual coercion probably since its inception. Judy Garland was a later example, notoriously so. And by that time Hollywood was 40 years old, at least.
Today a lot of pressure is being shown from homosexuals in high power. They only want to hire other homosexuals. And they want you to prove it, on themselves. Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 25, 2024 03:19 PM (MeG8a) 308
94 Ficus was great on the Quark show.
God, that's obscure. You, me and my dad must have been the only ones to watch that show. Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2024 03:20 PM (roH4R) 309
After Mira Sorvino turned down Harvey I think her dad Paul Sorvino threatened Ol' Harv.
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at April 25, 2024 03:22 PM (iNp3L) 310
80 Ol' Harve was a well-known POS when Meryl Streep led Hollywood in a standing ovation for him.
I cry no tears at this. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 25, 2024 02:28 PM (KbCG3) Let's not forget about Robert DeNiro. Many of Weinsteins assignations started with a meal at Tribeca Grill, followed by a trip up to the Miramax HQ. Both were located in a building that DeNiro owned - and still owns. He was an owner of Tribeca Grill as well. He knew, and was OK with the whole thing. Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 25, 2024 03:22 PM (AwbAS) 311
I did too.
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 25, 2024 03:23 PM (PXvVL) 312
After Mira Sorvino turned down Harvey I think her dad Paul Sorvino threatened Ol' Harv.
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at April 25, 2024 03:22 PM (iNp3L) I imagine Paul had some connects of his own... Posted by: BruceWayne at April 25, 2024 03:25 PM (CIS44) 313
I think all celebrities are whores.
Posted by: Seems Legit I think many ordinary people are, too, they just hide behind nicer labels. Many do this, in exchange for that. Submit if their want is meet. Value prizes in exchange for their attention. Need validation even if it's from strangers. Posted by: old chick at April 25, 2024 03:28 PM (F3Dlr) 314
283 Southwest Airlines to fire 2,000 employees and close operations at...
Not enough people responding to their email barrage of $49 flights (to places you would never go). Posted by: t-bird In their case, it was escalating labor costs, duplication of service (they already have Hobby as their hub and just dropped service to Bush International in Houston) AND the delay in getting their 737/737 Maxx planes from Boeing due to safety concerns. SW flies an all Boeing fleet and the whole crisis in Boeing mfg is gonna hit them hard. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 03:30 PM (/AKWf) 315
307 Hollywood has been all about sexual coercion probably since its inception. Judy Garland was a later example, notoriously so. And by that time Hollywood was 40 years old, at least.
Today a lot of pressure is being shown from homosexuals in high power. They only want to hire other homosexuals. And they want you to prove it, on themselves. Posted by: gourmand du jour ======= David Geffen has entered the room. Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 03:31 PM (/AKWf) 316
David Geffen has entered the room.
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2024 03:31 PM (/AKWf) It's he the one Cories hinted at that drugged and raped them Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 25, 2024 04:07 PM (dKiJG) 317
You're now free to drive about the country.
Posted by: Announcer Voice at April 25, 2024 04:28 PM (jAber) 318
The whole New York Court System needs to be cleaned out Disinfected and Fumigated from the Rats Cock-Roaches and Louse that live there
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 25, 2024 05:32 PM (wGqjj) A Secret Service Agent Assigned To Kumala Harris Physically Attacks the Special Agent In Charge of the Detail, While Armed;
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Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) News/Chat
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