Trump For Congress? Um...Cute, But Dumb.

It's an appealing idea; one that combines a thumb in the eye of the Democrat machine that is desperate to deplatform (and probably imprison) President Trump with a ready-made bully pulpit for a man who is a master at using one.

Trump for Congress, 2022

Trump for Congress 2022! Donald Trump declares his candidacy, asks voters across the country to turn out and elect him a Republican majority in the House, and launches a simultaneous campaign to become Speaker of the House once elected. Imagine, Donald Trump second in line to the Presidency and forcing President Biden-Harris-Biden to negotiate with him in order to pass legislation. The “Art of the Deal” evolves into the political “Art of War.”
Except....The position of Speaker of The House requires knowledge of the intricacies of the rules of the House, and the ability to manipulate those rules. One of President Trump's weaknesses was his inability to navigate the labyrinth of government, preferring to use his own management style that worked well for him in the past, coupled with his excellent and energizing speaking skills.

But that management style won't work in the House, because the 218+ representatives each have their own agendas and the Republican Party has been remiss for a very long time in cracking the whip and forcing a unified voice. And the bully pulpit of the speaker is an order of magnitude smaller than the president's.

All of this assumes that President Trump would be elected speaker, something that may seem a foregone conclusion, but which might not be realistic. I simply cannot imagine President Trump accepting an inferior position within the house hierarchy, so it would be "Speaker or bust!"

A more realistic position for President Trump is as the leader of the New PartyTM, whatever that may be. Could it be a reconstituted Republican Party after a violent purge of the NeverTrumpers and the "go along to get along" squishes who have done real damage to the party and to the country? Sure. Maybe. Or will it be an entirely new party, built from the ashes of the Republican party's self-immolation? That sounds even better, and I know full well that may mean a generation out of power.

Either way. President Trump belongs at the head of a movement, in full view of all of America, not buried in the Capitol trying to wend his way through the Deep State's obstacles.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 Nope

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:04 PM (kTF2Z)

2 He's an executive. He'd go crazy in congress.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (kTF2Z)

3 i ll ping the horde below

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (r4bSV)

4 He will be king maker.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (kTF2Z)

5 Not a chance would he do this.

Posted by: Museisluse at February 21, 2021 12:06 PM (UKuLO)

6 The Speaker of the House must have the proven ability to summon up demons from the bowels of Hell.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 12:07 PM (86s+O)

7 Don't care WHAT he does--I'm in.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 21, 2021 12:07 PM (KATBx)

8 This is like asking the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys to become the equipment manager.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:08 PM (kTF2Z)

9 Charlie Kirk needed to produce a column? I didn't read it 'cause the idea is just too stupid.

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 12:08 PM (AwYPR)

10
one does not need to be a member of the house to be Speaker of the House

a majority could select PDT as Speaker and would be perfectly according to Hoyle

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 21, 2021 12:08 PM (MIuvZ)

11 This is like asking the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys to become the equipment manager.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:08 PM (kTF2Z)



Any idea how much the equipment manager makes? Asking for a friend

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:08 PM (85Gof)

12 This is like asking the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys to become the equipment manager




do they get to assist the cheer squad??

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 12:09 PM (r4bSV)

13 Sorry CBD, I, for one, think the political process is now a dead end road.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 12:10 PM (lPp+p)

14 If I was him I would just sit back and enjoy life.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at February 21, 2021 12:10 PM (JUOKG)

15 If Trump thinks he can come in as Speaker of the Stereo with a veto-override majority and boss me around, he'd better understand that me and the other Senators will tell the Supreme Court on him.
No bullies, no bullfrogs, and no bullarkyzhibinfergling.

Posted by: ResidentBiden at February 21, 2021 12:10 PM (1hfZz)

16 I think he'll lead a purge of the Republican party and take another shot at the top office in '24.

If asked he might do the Speaker of the House gig, because of the publicity it would generate. Rent free, baby!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not scanning your email to sell you stuff like Google does. at February 21, 2021 12:11 PM (SchxB)

17 >>>President Trump belongs at the head of a movement . . . .
Agreed. Dumb idea. Leading from a kingmaker position, PAC, money-man, rally-organizer, even 2024 candidate would be much better. I don't know what he will do, but he has earned my trust.

Posted by: 4 at February 21, 2021 12:11 PM (KnJdm)

18 One more thing: let's say that were to happen. Historically, the HR has abhorred strong Speakers like Czar Reed or even people like Newt Gingrich.

No, no, I think even if Mr. Trump entered the HR or Sen as a plain-ol' Rep or Sen, that would be more than enough to make the Statists/Socialists lose their minds...IF that were to happen, of course.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 12:11 PM (49Dnm)

19 IMO Trump's political career is over. He may be involved in politics, but he's not going to run for dog catcher let alone local or national office.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 21, 2021 12:12 PM (3H9h1)

20 do they get to assist the cheer squad??
Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 12:09 PM (r4bSV)


You get to help them out their boots on and hold their pom poms.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at February 21, 2021 12:12 PM (R5lpX)

21 President Trump for the Supreme Court.

You wanna get nuts? Let's get nuts!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 12:12 PM (R/m4+)

22 I'd agree, nothing could make the swamp happier than to have Trump by the balls in congress. They could smother him, and fuck over his constituents in the process. He'd be censured every other day.

No, Trump can be a major thorn in their side outside of DC for the next few years. We're going nuts from the silence, he's just taking a well deserved breather, falling back and regrouping. I think all hell's about to break loose at CPAC next week.

Posted by: clutch cargo - not a cult, just a firm grip at February 21, 2021 12:12 PM (46GDR)

23 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

24 He's an executive. He'd go crazy in congress.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (kTF2Z)

Make CSPAN Great Again.

Posted by: 4 at February 21, 2021 12:13 PM (KnJdm)

25 It will be interesting to see what he says at cpac.

Who'd a thunk 10 years ago that the Donald would be the most honest guy in dc?

Posted by: Infidel at February 21, 2021 12:13 PM (JKh2y)

26 I think it would be epic trolling, but he'll never do that.

He's been the President. Why take such a demotion?

Although, him bringing up articles of impeachment in the two crooks in the White House would be funny.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

27 I don't doubt that Nanzi Pelosi, and House Speakers before her, did a lot of hard work to claw to the top of that particular pig trough, but I don't for a minute think that person, whoever it is, does a lot of heavy lifting.

They have a shedload of underlings who do the grunt work.

So in that sense, Trump could do the job. He'd just need people around him to help him stay on track, and as was the case when he was in the White House, he would likely find himself surrounded by a nest of vipers, many of whom were intent on undermining him every step of the way.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:14 PM (oQ94s)

28 Do it! And turn everyone of his speeches on the House Floor into a gripe about the 2020 fraudulent election.

Posted by: Unkaren at February 21, 2021 12:14 PM (GgAy1)

29 Sorry CBD, I, for one, think the political process is now a dead end road.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 12:10 PM (lPp+p)


I'm going to second that. Meaningful future voting would be conducted from the rooftops.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 12:14 PM (86s+O)

30 Don't be silly. We couldn't even keep him in the White House. Dems are never going to allow him to be seated in the House.

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 12:15 PM (XxJt1)

31


VOTE HARDER


SEND MONEY TOO FOR VICTORY IN 2022 AND 2024

Posted by: The GOPe at February 21, 2021 12:16 PM (r4bSV)

32 And ultimately, one of Trump's greatest accomplishments has been to show what a shit show, mafia style inept and unworkable thing the federal government is.

Continued under a senile fool, and a brazen hussy, the White House is a joke.

And so is Congress.

So sure, run, Donny, Run. Go in there and demand a gold plated podium.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:16 PM (oQ94s)

33 CPAC next week:

Trump steps up to the lectern.

"Fuck all y'all!"

Walks off.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:17 PM (kTF2Z)

34 CPAC will likely devolve into a multi-day telethon of grifters begging for money.

Only without Jerry Lewis.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 21, 2021 12:18 PM (3H9h1)

35 IMO Trump's political career is over. He may be involved in politics, but he's not going to run for dog catcher let alone local or national office.

it would be most expensive House race in human history. The Left would literally put in tens of billions of dollars to purchase every single possible vote.

Then if it still looked like he could win, they would pass the Enabling Acts and decertify the Legislative Branch of government just to make sure.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 12:18 PM (86s+O)

36 He's an executive. He'd go crazy in congress.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (kTF2Z)


Thats for sure.

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 12:18 PM (Ed8Zd)

37 CPAC next week:

Trump steps up to the lectern.

"Fuck all y'all!"

Walks off.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:17 PM (kTF2Z)

Well eloquence does have it's place

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:18 PM (85Gof)

38 Do it! And turn everyone of his speeches on the House Floor into a gripe about the 2020 fraudulent election.
Posted by: Unkaren at February 21, 2021 12:14 PM (GgAy1)

That, and constant references to Pelosi's rattling teeth, Mitch's cadaver like skin, and AOC's bug eyes.

It would be a more honorable use of time than 90% or more of the speeches currently given in that "august" chamber.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:18 PM (oQ94s)

39 I'd love to see Trump back in D.C., but only as president. The last effective leader in Congress was Newt, and he had to fight off the RINOs on a daily basis Trump doesn't have the patience for that, and why punch down if you can be POTUS?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:19 PM (VWp7G)

40 In full view of all America? pretty hard to do when you are banned from most if not all "media."

Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 12:19 PM (Zmnko)

41 Yeah not seeing Teh Donald sitting in a room with 400 or so "equals". It is hard to imagine him even as a head of a National Department.

I do think he would do a better job in a job like Interior Secretary or Labor then in congress.

Especially if he was placed to fire people. Hell he could get a pay per view going that might pay off a good part of the National debt.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at February 21, 2021 12:19 PM (6Pqz7)

42 IMO Trump's political career is over.

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Well, he is 29.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:19 PM (VVEnO)

43 Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 12:14 PM (86s+O)

Sadly, aside from local elections, this is accurate, IMO.

Posted by: 4 at February 21, 2021 12:20 PM (KnJdm)

44
Posted by: John at February 21, 2021 12:19 PM (4wM64)

Yeah, but he is our dolt.

Posted by: 4 at February 21, 2021 12:21 PM (KnJdm)

45 Hi John! Have a seat over there with Sidney, Clayton, Mohammed, and Jugdish. Don't forget to help yourself to punch and cookies!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 21, 2021 12:21 PM (kTF2Z)

46 43 IMO Trump's political career is over.

-
Well, he is 29.

Compared to the crypt keeper who is currently fouling the WH, he seems 29

Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 12:21 PM (Zmnko)

47 John has a short dick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:21 PM (85Gof)

48 btw, the code for ™ is & # 0153 (remove spaces)

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 12:21 PM (2BZBZ)

49 Compared to the crypt keeper who is currently fouling the WH, he seems 29
Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 12:21 PM (Zmnko)

Was gonna say, if Trump entered Congress, wouldn't he LOWER the average age of the membership?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:22 PM (oQ94s)

50 Amusing to think of for all of five seconds but that's it.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 21, 2021 12:23 PM (El8hT)

51 New party.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 21, 2021 12:23 PM (d6he9)

52 You'd think the trolls would stop after the Dullard was inaugurated.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:24 PM (VWp7G)

53 I think the worst fear the repubs and dems have is Trump starting a third party. I really believe this is the direction Trump should go.

The time is finally right for this and I think "Americans" are ready and eager.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 21, 2021 12:24 PM (Fs5vw)

54 Trump for Speaker is a good idea. What do you have in its place? Nothing. Just more, hand-waving, and lofty "lets do the same ol, same ol". I often wonder if the Center-right ever wants to actually DO ANYTHING. It seems there more interested in posing as "Smart boys" and "The only adult in the room".

Posted by: rcocean at February 21, 2021 12:24 PM (evE25)

55 I'd love to see Trump back in D.C., but only as president.

Why? They would impeach him just minutes after taking the Oath of Office.

While that circus would continue, the Swamp, which has four more years to permanently cement themselves into a Soviet, would be completely ignored.

Every institution would act as an independent government agency. Unlimited regulatory and statutory authority with zero accountability.

Speaking of which: We are going to learn a lot about FERC in the near future once they start BlameStorming the Texas Power Fiasco.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 12:25 PM (86s+O)

56 >>>New party.
Posted by: andycanuck

THIS.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:25 PM (VWp7G)

57 46. Haha. I get it!

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 12:25 PM (Ed8Zd)

58 Jen Psaki Refuses to Condemn Andrew Cuomo 's Actions Connected to Nursing Home Deaths

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Yeah, if you go around worrying about whether the proles live or die, you'll never get anything accomplished

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:25 PM (VVEnO)

59 The problem with Trump for US Rep in 2022 is the exact same as the problem with Trump for Prez in 2024.

The people who rigged an election to get Trump out of government aren't going to not rig an election to keep Trump out of government.

It's getting to where listening to these proposals becomes as asinine as listening to post-mortems about how of Trump had just run on X platform or appealed to Y demographic group that he would have won reelection.

Posted by: Shark Lasers at February 21, 2021 12:26 PM (PKiRn)

60 Sen. Thune opens his pie hole.https://tinyurl.com/yaae5f8mHave voted for him in the past. No more.

Posted by: oldraceral at February 21, 2021 12:26 PM (Bfhnl)

61 You'd think the trolls would stop after the Dullard was inaugurated.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:24 PM (VWp7G)

I marvel at that as well. They got everything they wanted, and still they are batshit crazy. It's almost as if it wasn't about Trump, they are just batshit crazy.

Posted by: 4 at February 21, 2021 12:26 PM (KnJdm)

62 Yeah, but he is our dolt.
Posted by: 4 at February 21, 2021 12:21 PM (KnJdm)

It's fun listening to some of these oh-so-clever podcasters, who don't identify as conservative, and certainly aren't fans of the Republican Party.

They caaaaaan't quite bring themselves to praise anything Trump did, but they acknowledge he said things that make him SEEM like he cared about the average person.

Sure fellas, you go with that. A guy who spent his entire career, making and losing fortunes, being a gadfly, but also building real things... he only SEEMS like he's capable of relating to the average Joe.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:26 PM (oQ94s)

63 We need to take over the Republicans' party. 95% of R's, voted for Trump in 2020. There is no point in starting a 3rd party when we take over the 2nd Party. If I was a Democrat I would love to have 2 parties splitting the Center Right vote.

Posted by: rcocean at February 21, 2021 12:26 PM (evE25)

64 Thune is the poor man's version of sasse

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:26 PM (85Gof)

65 Yes, they rigged 2020, so lets all stay home and bake cookies. Brilliant. Biden would agree.

Posted by: rcocean at February 21, 2021 12:27 PM (evE25)

66 57 >>>New party.
Posted by: andycanuck

THIS.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:25 PM (VWp7G)

Splitting the Right is a GREAT idea and that led to the absolute domination of our country's federal politics by the Right throughout the 1990s!

Posted by: PC and Reform Parties of Canada at February 21, 2021 12:27 PM (49Dnm)

67 Thune needs to be primaried. The Governor seems to be the one to do it.

Posted by: rcocean at February 21, 2021 12:28 PM (evE25)

68 I think in the end, Trump will be retired and living a life working on other projects, rather than some mythical leader of a new revolution or something. I know he'd like to fix things but he had his best shot and the problems were too big for conventional methods to fix. And he's old, let's face it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:28 PM (KZzsI)

69 Dominion Electoral Corpse Inc will never allow this. Neither will the spineless GOPe.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 21, 2021 12:28 PM (HaL55)

70 Just boycott all elections! If you don't participate, your country will be free! It worked for us and made Venezuela the beacon of prosperity that we are now for Latin America AND the world!

Posted by: Venezuelan opposition at February 21, 2021 12:29 PM (49Dnm)

71 Splitting the Right is a GREAT idea and that led to
the absolute domination of our country's federal politics by the Right
throughout the 1990s!

Posted by: PC and Reform Parties of Canada at February 21, 2021 12:27 PM (49Dnm)

As opposed to now.

Posted by: 4 at February 21, 2021 12:29 PM (KnJdm)

72 And he's old, let's face it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:28 PM (KZzsI)

So is Sundown...Jut saying. But I mostly agree with what you said

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:29 PM (85Gof)

73 I will never get over sad head shaking amusement at people who are convinced we can vote our way out of this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:29 PM (KZzsI)

74 I think in the end, Trump will be retired and living a life working on other projects, rather than some mythical leader of a new revolution or something.

Get in a economic development partnership with North Korea. That would be epic.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 12:29 PM (86s+O)

75 Yeah Buddy ™

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at February 21, 2021 12:29 PM (R5lpX)

76 Fat ass
Ass fat

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:29 PM (VVEnO)

77 The Palestinian Authority (PA) sent an official letter to the White House claiming that all factions, including Hamas, were committed to the establishment of a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital.

And if you buy that, and no doubt Sundown will, then I got this bridge to sell ya

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:30 PM (85Gof)

78 Sure fellas, you go with that. A guy who spent his entire career, making and losing fortunes, being a gadfly, but also building real things... he only SEEMS like he's capable of relating to the average Joe.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:26 PM (oQ94s)

And now the below average Joe is even stopping us from stopping and removing sex offenders who are here illegally. I guess Biden needs rapists for his gulags. I hate donks.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:30 PM (ONvIw)

79 You'd think the trolls would stop after the Dullard was inaugurated.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

And do what? Something that requires independent thought?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 12:30 PM (lPp+p)

80 68 Thune needs to be primaried. The Governor seems to be the one to do it.
Posted by: rcocean at February 21, 2021 12:28 PM (evE25)

Such a waste though. Yes, Mr. Thune has overstayed his welcome. But if Mrs. Noem stays gov, that gives her the best shot to become President. (I say that not necessarily because I am supporting such a candidacy, but if she were to try it out, the natural jump off point is the governorship.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 12:31 PM (49Dnm)

81 Thune needs to be primaried. The Governor seems to be the one to do it.

Posted by: rcocean at February 21, 2021 12:28 PM (evE25)
I could get behind her.

Posted by: oldraceral at February 21, 2021 12:31 PM (Bfhnl)

82 And if you buy that, and no doubt Sundown will, then I got this bridge to sell ya
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:30 PM (85Gof)

My leftist SIL was harping about exactly that..."give peace a chance"...lol

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:31 PM (ONvIw)

83 Something that requires independent thought?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 12:30 PM (lPp+p)

No need for independent thought anymore. FB and Twitter is doing all the thinking for us. Didn't you get that memo?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:31 PM (85Gof)

84 My leftist SIL was harping about exactly that..."give peace a chance"

Yeah, like the last 50 years haven't been about trying to give the Palis a chance which they routinely ignore and crap all over while trying to murder more Jews.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:32 PM (KZzsI)

85 >>>As opposed to now.
Posted by: 4


Seriously. What has the GOP done in the last forty years that makes you think they're the party of conservatives? McConnell only pushed through those judges because Trump kept hounding him, not out of the goodness of his heart.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:32 PM (VWp7G)

86 The Palestinian Authority (PA) sent an official letter to the White House claiming that all factions, including Hamas, were committed to the establishment of a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:30 PM (85Gof)

That's funny!

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 12:32 PM (AwYPR)

87 I will continue to believe he should start his campaign now. A rally every month in a new state. Keep filling stadiums!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 21, 2021 12:33 PM (axyOa)

88 Palestinians are like Democrats except worse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:33 PM (VVEnO)

89 CPAC. We've all mentioned how Trump doesn't surround himself with the best people at times and I think his relationship with Matt and Mercedes Schlapp show that. I hope this is just repaying them for their past loyalty because I have no faith in that textbook example of a beltway power couple at all. I always thought Mercedes was half of the leaks coming out of his administration.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 12:33 PM (qH6FZ)

90 And he's old, let's face it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:28 PM (KZzsI)

I think this is the biggest key. If Mr. Trump were 10 years younger..maybe things will be different. But I would not blame him one bit if he said "Screw it. It's been fun. Bye."

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 12:33 PM (49Dnm)

91 OR Trump could buy Central America after those populations migrate to this country. Set up a Constitutional government and then watch the region become the envy of the world.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 21, 2021 12:33 PM (Fs5vw)

92 >>>And do what? Something that requires independent thought?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed


I figured they'd go back to World of Warcraft.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:33 PM (VWp7G)

93 Yeah, like the last 50 years haven't been about trying to give the Palis a chance which they routinely ignore and crap all over while trying to murder more Jews.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:32 PM (KZzsI)

She believes everything the left says. I hope she voluntarily locks herself down forever. I usually don't take her calls.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:34 PM (ONvIw)

94 42
Posted by: John at February 21, 2021 12:19 PM (4wM64)

What a devastating riposte from John the Fisherman at Level 42.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 12:34 PM (49Dnm)

95
nobody is scared of ol man biden on the world stage

Tiawan will prolly draft everybody in prep

Posted by: The GOPe at February 21, 2021 12:34 PM (r4bSV)

96 Venezuelan opposition

* takes a quick inventory of guns and ammo

Apples and oranges.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 12:34 PM (lPp+p)

97 96
nobody is scared of ol man biden on the world stage

Tiawan will prolly draft everybody in prep
Posted by: The GOPe at February 21, 2021 12:34 PM (r4bSV)

Or just make the island awash with weapons.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 12:35 PM (49Dnm)

98 McConnell only pushed through those judges because Trump kept hounding him, not out of the goodness of his heart.

Judges were picked by GOPe think tanks, and were just about the only GOPe feature of Trump's presidency. That's why McConnell liked them. Its one of the few places I happen to think the GOPe gets right, as well - they do recognize judges are incredibly important.

The problem is, these guys were all country club insiders, guys who were reliably part of the gang, so when the rubber hit the road over voter fraud they all went with the party line of "whatever it takes to get rid of the uncouth outsider"

This isn't Caddyshack where the rowdy poors win, led by a bombastic and hilarious iconoclast. Its the real world where the iconoclast is destroyed for daring to question his Betters.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:35 PM (KZzsI)

99 All We Are Saying Is Give Terrorism a Chance.

Posted by: The Palestinian Authority at February 21, 2021 12:35 PM (VVEnO)

100 No need for independent thought anymore. FB and Twitter is doing all the thinking for us. Didn't you get that memo?

Sentient beings have absolutely no place on FB, Twitter, Insty, etc.

Let their behavior modeling and advertising algorithms degenerate into predicting sociopathic behavior trends because the Stage IV Reprobates are all who remain in their tracking tools.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 12:35 PM (86s+O)

101 >>>Or just make the island awash with weapons.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33


Well, you know the U.S. isn't coming to help them. Same with Hong Kong.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (VWp7G)

102 For a number of years now I've donated to the particular candidate rather than the party. Your money goes where you intend it to this way.

It also sends a nifty little message.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (KATBx)

103 And if we're going to be serious about this subject, what Trump can do for the next 3 plus years, is give voice to a large group of people who were literally disenfranchised, and are questioning whether they have a home in the Republican Party.

Whatever he does, it isn't going to be inside elective politics, but on the outside, harassing the hell out of them.

In other words, THE voice of the people. And the real question, is the Republican Party willing to listen?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (oQ94s)

104 I figured they'd go back to World of Warcraft.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

We are their outlet when Mom grounds them from video games.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (lPp+p)

105 In the NetFlix Korean-made movie, Space Sweepers, is Mr James Sullivan, the savior of humanity and pretty much the only White guy in the movie, a metaphor for Bill Gates ?

Posted by: SMOD at February 21, 2021 12:37 PM (X5CsJ)

106 >>>We are their outlet when Mom grounds them from video games.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed


No Hot Pockets for you until you get a job!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:37 PM (VWp7G)

107 In other words, THE voice of the people. And the real question, is the Republican Party willing to listen?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (oQ94s)

Only when they get their asses handing to them in 2022

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:37 PM (ONvIw)

108 At one point I had hopped Steve Scalise would rise to the speakership. I figured maybe getting shot would get him a bit of a sympathy vote.

Not sure any more. Scalise still seems to be a person who could use the inner workings of congress to help us. But he seems to have aged a lot since the shooting I am no longer sure he would even want the job.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at February 21, 2021 12:38 PM (6Pqz7)

109 nobody is scared of ol man biden on the world stage

Tiawan will prolly draft everybody in prep


Expect warfare once Winter is over and the seas are calm enough for a full scale PLA invasion.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 12:38 PM (86s+O)

110 What's this I hear about Giuliani perving on a hot tennis chick? Do they really think that this makes me think less of him?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 21, 2021 12:39 PM (PIuFY)

111 Didn't you get that memo?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Us hillbillies ain't included in the communication chain.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 12:39 PM (lPp+p)

112 What's this I hear about Giuliani perving on a hot tennis chick? Do they really think that this makes me think less of him?
Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 21, 2021 12:39 PM (PIuFY)

Fuck he is my hero for that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:40 PM (85Gof)

113 OR Trump could buy Central America after those populations migrate to this country. Set up a Constitutional government and then watch the region become the envy of the world.
Posted by: Justsayin' at February 21, 2021 12:33 PM (Fs5vw)

We already DID that one...

Posted by: The Banana Republics at February 21, 2021 12:40 PM (oQ94s)

114 PDT has put up with a hundred lifetimes of crap, courtesy of the deep state.

I'd like to see him lead an entirely new party.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 12:41 PM (TdMsT)

115 My now-standard reply to all Republican donation overtures received:
Is McConnell still allowed in the Republican Party?
Is Romney still allowed in the Republican Party?
If yes to either, hard pass. Hard FUCKING pass.

Posted by: Dear Leader Chairman Zhou Bai Din at February 21, 2021 12:41 PM (jV+aN)

116 >>>What's this I hear about Giuliani perving on a hot tennis chick? Do they really think that this makes me think less of him?
Posted by: Rusty Nail


Golfer. Michelle Wie. Very hot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:41 PM (VWp7G)

117 In other words, THE voice of the people. And the real question, is the Republican Party willing to listen?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (oQ94s)

Only when they get their asses handing to them in 2022
Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:37 PM (ONvIw)

My assumption is, these people DO understand electoral politics, because it is their business. I don't expect them to CARE about me, but if they're smart they're actually listening to the seething coming from those who have voted for them in the past.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:42 PM (oQ94s)

118
My leftist SIL was harping about exactly that..."give peace a chance"...lol
Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:31 PM (ONvIw)

Unity?

Peace?

Yeah, no.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 12:43 PM (TdMsT)

119 Lol

We got this.

Posted by: McConnell and McCarthy at February 21, 2021 12:43 PM (p/8Cg)

120 Trump elected to the House and with the aid of Loyalists could tie the Biden rein into knots.

There is more Republican loyalty to (exiled) President Trump in the House than in the Senate. And considering his actuarial timeline he may choose a tactic that will enable his presidential successor.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 12:43 PM (1XrCq)

121 Some in the last thread were wondering where they could find a traditional Latin Mass:

https://www.latinmassdir.org/

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 12:44 PM (i4vaF)

122
In other words, THE voice of the people. And the real question, is the Republican Party willing to listen?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (oQ94s)


My friend.

You know the answer to that.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 12:44 PM (TdMsT)

123 I seriously doubt Trump will form a magical third party to run against the Dem and GOPe. It'd be doomed from the start, and that's by design.

No, if the current government is replaced it will be done outside of voting and elections.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 21, 2021 12:45 PM (3H9h1)

124 Well, you know the U.S. isn't coming to help them. Same with Hong Kong.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (VWp7G)

Americans on both sides increasingly like the idea of an America that is whiny and isolationist.

I thought the porkulus bill of late last year was disgusting in full. The foreign aid money was just a final insult. For many Americans that was the only bad part about it. (Note the millions who only bitched about the foreign aid part. Yeah, it was NOT insignificant, I get that. But I thought the WHOLE THING was crap. The only outrage for millions was that even one penny left our shores. My outrage was that one penny left Capitol Hill period.) Was there nearly as much bitching about the wasteful domestic spending? No.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 12:45 PM (49Dnm)

125 118 they seem certain that we will forget and trust them again.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:45 PM (ONvIw)

126 would you join the same club that had the squad + Pelosi as members ?

even my lack of standards would allow me to be in favor of this

it's a bar where it's never 2 am

Posted by: REDACTED at February 21, 2021 12:46 PM (6iURM)

127 Complete list of genders (complete at least until this afternoon).

https://www.healthline.com

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:46 PM (VVEnO)

128 BUTTERFLY - FLUTTER BY

No, that doesn't work. Does close count?

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 12:46 PM (XxJt1)

129 119 She accepts every donk statement without question. And they donate heavily.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:46 PM (ONvIw)

130 125 Well, you know the U.S. isn't coming to help them. Same with Hong Kong.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (VWp7G)

Americans on both sides increasingly like the idea of an America that is whiny and isolationist.

I thought the porkulus bill of late last year was disgusting in full. The foreign aid money was just a final insult. For many Americans that was the only bad part about it. (Note the millions who only bitched about the foreign aid part. Yeah, it was NOT insignificant, I get that. But I thought the WHOLE THING was crap. The only outrage for millions was that even one penny left our shores. My outrage was that one penny left Capitol Hill period.) Was there nearly as much bitching about the wasteful domestic spending? No.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 12:45 PM (49Dnm)

The point ultimately is that Americans don't want to lift a finger for Taiwan or HK anyways because they like an America that is whiny and isolationist. And if that means people in Taiwan or HK suffer, so be it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 12:47 PM (49Dnm)

131 President Trump belongs at the head of a movement, in full view of all of America, not buried in the Capitol trying to wend his way through the Deep State's obstacles.

Oh yeah. Some wag mentioned that Trump may be more powerful out of office than in, and I think that is true politically. It may even be true in foreign affairs, as his policies were never fully implemented b/c the Deep State blocked him at every turn.

Trump saved a lot of seats in Congress, and got stabbed quite a few times by ungrateful wretches. McConnell being the top of that food chain.

At 75+ million strong, we may not be able to win every election, but we can damn sure keep any 'conservative' out that Trump refuses to endorse.

I think he needs to hold MOAR grudges, not fewer.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 21, 2021 12:47 PM (F0YaR)

132 Again, being realistic, and not just venting, my assumption is the Republican Party is looking at what worked in 2020, and what didn't... and a LOT of things worked for them.

They're going to try to replicate what did work, and that's going to include things like getting behind whoever Wyoming primaries Dizzy Liz with.

They look at the Georgia runoffs, and have to conclude one of two things: It was rigged, or a lot of their voters stayed home. Or both.

Now, there ARE rumblings that Mitch had his own cheat operation at work in Kentucky, and is only where he is because of his deals with the devil. So I guess they can try to do that... where they have the mechanisms in place to do so, but everyone knows they're in general, significantly worse at this than the Democrats are.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:47 PM (oQ94s)

133 I could get behind her.
Posted by: oldraceral at February 21, 2021 12:31 PM


If only I had a dollar for every time I've heard that.

Posted by: Brie Larson at February 21, 2021 12:47 PM (DMUuz)

134 Representative Ro Khanna (D-CA) declared Sunday on CNNs Inside Politics that we should not want low-wage businesses when pressed on small businesses who would struggle under a federal mandate to pay employees $15 an hour.

Said by a man who never ran a small business.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 12:47 PM (85Gof)

135 Google is effing with the HQ. They're going cancel us, aren't they?

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 12:47 PM (XxJt1)

136 Better use of his time would be creating an alternative to MSM.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 12:48 PM (zr5Kq)

137 104 And if we're going to be serious about this subject, what Trump can do for the next 3 plus years, is give voice to a large group of people who were literally disenfranchised, and are questioning whether they have a home in the Republican Party.

Whatever he does, it isn't going to be inside elective politics, but on the outside, harassing the hell out of them.

In other words, THE voice of the people. And the real question, is the Republican Party willing to listen?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (oQ94s

You're kidding, right? The uniparty hasn't listened to us for decades now. They know what's best for us. Why would they start listening to us again.

The only REAL way to stop this madness is for various states to nullify or actually secede from DC.

Trump could be active in this, but we need to quit looking for "Fearless Leader" to do what we ourselves should be doing. Rush's passing should've been the wake up call.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 21, 2021 12:48 PM (Fs5vw)

138 I would love to see PDT take over the EIB network.

He can do more damage to the progressive agenda behind the golden microphone than anywhere else.

His family has been through enough.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 12:48 PM (U2p+3)

139 139 There's more to come , so staying relevant and powerful in the GOP is his best bet.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:50 PM (ONvIw)

140
Or just make the island awash with weapons.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33


Send in Zardoz

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 21, 2021 12:50 PM (63Dwl)

141 In other words, THE voice of the people. And the real question, is the Republican Party willing to listen?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (oQ94s)

My friend.

You know the answer to that.
Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 12:44 PM (TdMsT)

No, I'm serious. I don't think these are stupid people, so I don't expect them to CARE about the disenfranchised voters, but I do expect them to respond to a very real problem they have, which is a LOT of people who would vote for them, being ready, willing, and able to sit home. Or go third party.

I think they'll at least consider whether to let us go, or do something to win us back. Whether it works or not, that I can't predict.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:50 PM (oQ94s)

142 137 Better use of his time would be creating an alternative to MSM.
Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 12:48 PM (zr5Kq)


aint that the Truth

da

Posted by: Pravda at February 21, 2021 12:51 PM (6iURM)

143 They were able to subvert the votes of true voters only with the help of 4 major cities. They were NOT able to do anything down ballot. That is our path. We need to take back the house in 2022. That will stop legislation including money issues from succeeding.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:52 PM (sd8p8)

144 There's more to come , so staying relevant and powerful in the GOP is his best bet.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:50 PM (ONvIw)

GOP wants him to go away.

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 12:52 PM (AwYPR)

145 Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (oQ94s

You're kidding, right?
Posted by: Justsayin' at February 21, 2021 12:48 PM (Fs5vw)

No, I'm not kidding. But I know a lot of people here prefer to vent, so I'm not trying to get in the way of that.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:52 PM (oQ94s)

146 Anybody for AnyOffice is now cute but dumb.
The Machine now decides which Actor is anointed to which Seat.

Posted by: DaveA at February 21, 2021 12:53 PM (FhXTo)

147 Representative Ro Khanna (D-CA) declared Sunday on CNNs Inside Politics that we should not want low-wage businesses when pressed on small businesses who would struggle under a federal mandate to pay employees $15 an hour.

-
It's like the Rolling Stones said.

In the sweet old country
Where I come from
Nobody ever works
Nothing ever gets done
We hang fire, we hang fire

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:53 PM (VVEnO)

148 I think Trump should go on the lecture circuit in Europe talking about how dangerous Big Tech is.
Especially Twitter.

Posted by: Dr. Vivi-Not my POTUS, FLOTUS, SCOTUS, FBI... at February 21, 2021 12:53 PM (USW1s)

149 Well covered by everyone already, but no, though a good discussion to start, CBD. I have noted recently that Trump, in his scathing statement on Mitch, had something I found very disappointing.

He said he would selectively support rivals, presumably challengers to GOP incumbents.

Obviously I like this, but I find it very unlikely to move the ball effectively. This stems from my very bleak assessment of the situation, in terms of inertia. As the absurd "insurrection" and second shampeacment spectacle illustrated - as much or more than any of the jaw-dropping spectacles inflicted on the country and Trump since 2017 - the GOP is beyond fixing. The GOP, to generalize a bit, was as hostile and self-destructively rabid in their opposition to Trump and their obsession with purging him from public life in 2021, as they were in 2016.

The election certification process, at state and federal level, showed the same.

High-risk, yes; unlikely to yield instant happiness, yes; but replacing the GOP probably is the only way to make more than a marginal difference in anything, at this point.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 12:54 PM (OTzUX)

150 The thing is, if Trump ever got back in the White House he would sack every one of those treasonous bastards and they know it. He would not make the mistake of trusting any of them again.
Thus, he will never see power again. The evidence of that is already on the table.

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 12:55 PM (XxJt1)

151 Said by a man who never ran a small business.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Why is this pithy phrase relevant?

Posted by: SFGoth at February 21, 2021 12:55 PM (KAi1n)

152 How soon before Joe Biden runs for a House seat?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 12:55 PM (R/m4+)

153 No, if the current government is replaced it will be done outside of voting and elections.
Yep. And judging by the sheeple I see everywhere wearing two or three ID10T masks and going into hysterics over a fake epidemic, that's never going to happen either. I'm glad I'm 29 and don't have much time left on this wretched planet.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 21, 2021 12:56 PM (HaL55)

154 Golfer. Michelle Wie. Very hot.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Elly May Clampett >>>Michelle Wie

She could probably out rassle Michelle too.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 12:56 PM (lPp+p)

155 They were able to subvert the votes of true voters only with the help of 4 major cities. They were NOT able to do anything down ballot. That is our path. We need to take back the house in 2022. That will stop legislation including money issues from succeeding.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:52 PM (sd8p

Yeah, I don't think some folks here pay attention to that. The House elections were a disaster for Democrats. There were no gains (that I know of?) in state legislatures and governor mansions for the Democrats, and even in states like Californica, the hold they have is crumbling. This isn't a good time to be a Democrat.

It just isn't. Now, that doesn't NECESSARILY mean it's a good time to be a Republican, especially in DC, but there's a reason nobody talks about how bad 2020 was for the Democrats.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:56 PM (oQ94s)

156 I think they'll at least consider whether to let us go, or do something to win us back. Whether it works or not, that I can't predict.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:50 PM


Dude. We learned from the successful destruction of the Tea Party.

And, after all, when all is said and done, where you gonna go? If nothing else, we're counting on that!

Posted by: GOPe, a Subsidiary of Uniparty, Inc. at February 21, 2021 12:56 PM (DMUuz)

157 Wow Michelle Wie is really pretty. But even at my age I recognize that younger women are not just out of my wheelhouse but I'm too old and tired to really want to put out the effort.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:56 PM (KZzsI)

158 And, after all, when all is said and done, where you gonna go? If nothing else, we're counting on that!
Posted by: GOPe


Yeah well, that worked its last time in 2014.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:57 PM (KZzsI)

159

I think they'll at least consider whether to let us go, or do something to win us back. Whether it works or not, that I can't predict.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:50 PM (oQ94s)


I look at the overt betrayals by members of the GOPe and I am convinced they want nothing to do with the Deplorables. Even if it means they losing seats in Congress. After all, the Deplorables are "less than."

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 12:57 PM (TdMsT)

160 >>>Thus, he will never see power again. The evidence of that is already on the table.
Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 12:55 PM (XxJt1)
---------------

That's a good argument for him be in congress (2022).

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 12:57 PM (1XrCq)

161 No, if the current government is replaced it will be done outside of voting and elections.

-
I'm hoping for magic fairy dust. More realistic than voting.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:58 PM (VVEnO)

162 Trump needs to find some non-traitors to appoint to his cabinet in 2024. Especially at the DOJ.

Posted by: zmdavid at February 21, 2021 12:59 PM (xqRaG)

163 S'funny. Our economy is being destroyed and our social structure gutted. But all Dems can focus on is the complete and total destruction of one man.

This reeks of fear. How to capitalize on it?

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 12:59 PM (XxJt1)

164 Complete list of genders (complete at least until this afternoon).

https://www.healthline.com
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:46 PM (VVEnO)

Don't take a week off, by next week you'll be cancelled for not being up to date with the revisions.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:59 PM (oQ94s)

165 What happened during the Obama years where he absolutely destroyed the Democrat party down ballot, Trump has done the exact opposite. He gained seats in the house. He produced more red counties in this past election than in the previous one. He has moved minority voters out of the plantation. Instead of worrying about the Presidency, we should be using the strength of the movement to take over congress. That is the only way to get things done.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:59 PM (sd8p8)

166 144 They were able to subvert the votes of true voters only with the help of 4 major cities. They were NOT able to do anything down ballot. That is our path. We need to take back the house in 2022. That will stop legislation including money issues from succeeding.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:52 PM (sd8p


We need to pray hard for this.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 01:00 PM (TdMsT)

167 154 No, if the current government is replaced it will be done outside of voting and elections.
Yep. And judging by the sheeple I see everywhere wearing two or three ID10T masks and going into hysterics over a fake epidemic, that's never going to happen either. I'm glad I'm 29 and don't have much time left on this wretched planet.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 21, 2021 12:56 PM (HaL55)


I'm very close to that myself. I think the angels' trumpets have sounded and the world as we've known it is ending.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 21, 2021 01:00 PM (Fs5vw)

168 >>>It just isn't. Now, that doesn't NECESSARILY mean it's a good time to be a Republican, especially in DC, but there's a reason nobody talks about how bad 2020 was for the Democrats.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:56 PM (oQ94s)
----------------

Yep, the Democrats are on tenterhooks and they aren't winning friends.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:01 PM (1XrCq)

169 So they're saying something like:

We really need to emasculate Trump because he's difficult to work with when he's working for the country.

I know let's get him elected to Congress so we can ignore him just like we ignore every other conservative representative in the house or senate.

Posted by: AZ deplorable isolated at February 21, 2021 01:01 PM (gtatv)

170 I think they'll at least consider whether to let us go, or do something to win us back. Whether it works or not, that I can't predict.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:50 PM (oQ94s)

I look at the overt betrayals by members of the GOPe and I am convinced they want nothing to do with the Deplorables. Even if it means they losing seats in Congress. After all, the Deplorables are "less than."
Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 12:57 PM (TdMsT)

That's certainly possible. It seems like suicide to me, but maybe that's what the people at the top want. A permanent minority party, that has a few selected individuals in key positions... for whatever good that does them.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 01:01 PM (oQ94s)

171
Who does not think the Ds are already planning out how to not loose down ticket elections next time

as much as i think the Ds are warmed up armadillo piss, the coordination and in your face planning the 2020 steal is impressive

too bad the Rs are too much of a pussy to do the same thing back next time

untill the Rs start playing by the Ds playbook there will be no changes

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 01:01 PM (r4bSV)

172 I had high hopes some of the more Trump supportive pundits on the right would get behind an effort to destroy the GOP but it just didn't happen. They pretty much all are behind the hopeless notion that we can change things in through the GOP and primaries. It just boggles my mind that they can't see how pointless in the long term that really is.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:02 PM (qH6FZ)

173 Trump could be the greatest iconoclast in American politics.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at February 21, 2021 01:02 PM (qZdIZ)

174 A generation out of power will be deadly. But it's necessary to do the work of rebuilding the populace.

Posted by: GWB at February 21, 2021 01:02 PM (XlpHO)

175 we should be using the strength of the movement to take over congress. That is the only way to get things done.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:59 PM (sd8p

Nice thought but not gonna happen

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at February 21, 2021 01:02 PM (P4Pk9)

176
That's certainly possible. It seems like suicide to me, but maybe that's what the people at the top want. A permanent minority party, that has a few selected individuals in key positions... for whatever good that does them.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 01:01 PM (oQ94s)


It makes more sense to me if I keep in mind that most Republicans are sleeping with the enemy.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 01:03 PM (TdMsT)

177 Sharon, I agree with all you are stating but the Republicans have never done anything of lasting benefit while they control the House. They have never yet cut entitlement spending or pork.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 21, 2021 01:03 PM (VEOh1)

178 It just isn't. Now, that doesn't NECESSARILY mean it's a good time to be a Republican, especially in DC, but there's a reason nobody talks about how bad 2020 was for the Democrats.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:56 PM (oQ94s)

Yep, the Democrats are on tenterhooks and they aren't winning friends.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:01 PM (1XrCq)

Including, ESPECIALLY overseas. And they're slow-walking all their pet projects of raising minimum wage, doing anything about guns, even the f'n COVID relief package.

Being this fat and stupid is no way to go through government.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 01:04 PM (oQ94s)

179 Winning and losing 2022 elections will be determined by election law reform or not.

If Dominion is in we are out.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:04 PM (1XrCq)

180 The 250 anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence is in 2026. I hope we can have a big national celebration like in 1976. I dread what the Democrats will do with this milestone.

Posted by: zmdavid at February 21, 2021 01:04 PM (xqRaG)

181 Let them beg for his blessedly punishing return as GEOTUS.

And be refused first deal.

Posted by: DaveA at February 21, 2021 01:04 PM (FhXTo)

182 I understand that many want to see Trump back in politics, in power, as a center of the push against the crazy left, but right now, after what happened on 11/06 , I prefer the current asymmetrical "warfare". Either the lively visit of a group of patriots to DC, or market extravaganza by redditors. "When government fears the people, there is liberty..." etc. That is what really keeps barbwire around the capital and troops on alert. Their own sense of vulnerability and shock at how by removing Trump, they achieved little to nothing. Before Trump was a lighting rod, now...good luck stumping out the internets. Michael Malice that ace linked int he bar, sort of touches on that.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:06 PM (zr5Kq)

183 That's certainly possible. It seems like suicide to me, but maybe that's what the people at the top want. A permanent minority party, that has a few selected individuals in key positions... for whatever good that does them.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 01:01 PM (oQ94s)

It makes more sense to me if I keep in mind that most Republicans are sleeping with the enemy.
Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 01:03 PM (TdMsT)

I look at it like having a defense lawyer. Yeah, this guy is a shark, and will eat you if it has reason to... so you don't give it reason to. And whether you're actually guilty or not, a good defense lawyer OBVIOUSLY has some purpose and value when you need one.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 01:06 PM (oQ94s)

184 Did anyone see that DOE order 202-21-1 to ERCOT? Where the Biden administration basically told Texas to make sure they were considering the environment when trying to get any needed power?

Posted by: Knndlb at February 21, 2021 01:06 PM (aYpP2)

185 If a minor speed-bump to decline is your maximum goal (and it's not unreasonable, based on the fundamentals), then "changing the GOP" is the proper path. Itself a path not very likely to succeed in a timely manner, but rational.

But that's the most you would achieve.

Tom Cotton is an excellent illustration. From the RAISE Act (a proposed law incorporating most of the changes obviously needed - and supported by a large majority of Americans, when seriously surveyed), back when Trump first rode an intelligent immigration approach to the White House, to ..... today, when Cotton has paired with *Romney* to offer a ridiculous and pathetic proposal to *increase the minimum wage*, linked to the head-shaking "sweetener" of making hiring illegals quadruple super-super-seriously illegal, more illegal than it already is for many reasons.

And during the certification debacle, his excuse for rubber stamping the obviously dubious election "results": a laughable "constitutional" dodge, with a hilarious kicker. If the GOP exercised Congress' proper role in the process, WHO KNOWS WHAT THE DEMS MIGHT DO IN RETALIATION.

This - from one of the handful of decent Beltway GOP.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:06 PM (OTzUX)

186 There are some bad apples in the House but there are many Trumpers and most go with the flow. Turn the flow turn the house.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:06 PM (1XrCq)

187 I think having all 50 states secede from Washington DC would be just hilarious. OK you have your little swamp with the nice monuments, its all yours. We'll take the rest. If I wrote an optimistic fantasy of American future, that's the solution I'd use.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

188 Absolutely nothing will ever happen to right this ship unless and until we have secure voting. That means no computers, hard-copy ballots on controlled paper retained so they can be recounted when necessary and death sentences for any voting shenanigans. A one-year residency wouldn't hurt either.

Either the massive Demoprog commie voter fraud machine is destroyed or we'll be under the ChiCom's boot forevermore.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 21, 2021 01:07 PM (HaL55)

189 Winning and losing 2022 elections will be determined by election law reform or not.
If Dominion is in we are out.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:04 PM (1XrCq)

All signs point to yes.

Posted by: Dominion Magic 8 Ball Voter Game at February 21, 2021 01:07 PM (R/m4+)

190 we should be using the strength of the movement to take over congress. That is the only way to get things done.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:59 PM (sd8p


Heh

Posted by: Boehner Ryan Hastert at February 21, 2021 01:08 PM (FSBb7)

191 172 I had high hopes some of the more Trump supportive pundits on the right would get behind an effort to destroy the GOP but it just didn't happen. They pretty much all are behind the hopeless notion that we can change things in through the GOP and primaries. It just boggles my mind that they can't see how pointless in the long term that really is.
Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:02 PM (qH6FZ)
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I saw a story where the never Trumpers were planning to launch their own party. We should encourage this. Maybe then Trump people could take over the GOP.

Posted by: zmdavid at February 21, 2021 01:08 PM (xqRaG)

192 It makes more sense to me if I keep in mind that most Republicans are sleeping with the enemy.
Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 01:03 PM


Unlike us patriotic Democrats!

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at February 21, 2021 01:08 PM (DMUuz)

193 A little over halfway home. Between little rock and Memphis. Need to detour off of I-40 as it is shut down in front of me. Glad I checked when I sat down for lunch.

Posted by: BifBewalski - cannot wait to get out of this car and be howe at February 21, 2021 01:08 PM (58TaB)

194 2022 will be the turning point. Usually midterms produce seats for the party not owning the Presidency. We are very close even now. Some of the people who lost due to the fraud like Parnell in PA will come back strong. We will gain back the seat Warnock stole.
People are not happy about immigration, keeping schools closed, transgender stupidity, shunning Israel, climate change. Something for everyone to hate. This is building already.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (sd8p8)

195 Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:06 PM (OTzUX)
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There's a Chinaman in Cotton's pocket or more likely in his personal photo album.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (1XrCq)

196
I had high hopes some of the more Trump supportive pundits on the right
would get behind an effort to destroy the GOP but it just didn't happen.
They pretty much all are behind the hopeless notion that we can change
things in through the GOP and primaries. It just boggles my mind that
they can't see how pointless in the long term that really is.


Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:02 PM (qH6FZ)

we want to win. Destroying age old parties and going third party in this country does not have a very good history. Sure you have Perot and Anderson, but what did that get anyone?
I get being pissed off. But what I don't get is the pie in the sky that crushing Republicans is going to save anything. If we are talking stopping Leftist Statism, as soon as possible,I would say get rid of the flotsam and do what it takes to win again. That includes cutting off the cheating, but to do that we need people on the ground, not randos that want to get the name recco in Congress.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (Veofh)

197 Bif,
Is your mom doing ok?

Posted by: lin-duh at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (UUBmN)

198 Even if by some miracle the House and/or Senate flip to R I've no doubt in my mind this administration would run roughshod over any dissent. The socialist agenda the power brokers running this shit show want will be instituted regardless of the makeup of Congress.

Government ceased to function under Trump, not of his doing, but because of the egos of the majority of elected asshats and their corruption. They are mostly untouchable by any normal standard today.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (3H9h1)

199 I think the first hard lesson to learn in order to stop being Charlie Brown is to realize that we're in a-historical territory. That means stop looking at past models, past historical patterns, and past events to try to predict the future. All that is off the table. We're a post-constitutional oligarchy now, the republic is dead, and democracy is dead.

Get that into your head and you'll be much happier in the long run, no matter how sour and jagged that pill is to start with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (KZzsI)

200 >>Did anyone see that DOE order 202-21-1 to ERCOT? Where the Biden administration basically told Texas to make sure they were considering the environment when trying to get any needed power?



I just saw that today, the DOE order came out FEB 14

and we know why it took 7 days for this to become known

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (r4bSV)

201 It makes more sense to me if I keep in mind that most Republicans are sleeping with the enemy.
Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 01:03 PM

Unlike us patriotic Democrats!
Posted by: Eric Swalwell at February 21, 2021 01:08 PM (DMUuz)

Oh driver, will you rub my corns for me?

Posted by: Diane Fiend Stein at February 21, 2021 01:10 PM (oQ94s)

202 What happened during the Obama years where he absolutely destroyed the Democrat party down ballot, Trump has done the exact opposite. He gained seats in the house. He produced more red counties in this past election than in the previous one. He has moved minority voters out of the plantation. Instead of worrying about the Presidency, we should be using the strength of the movement to take over congress. That is the only way to get things done.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:59 PM (sd8p

So absolutely right, even with massive fraud - both houses are even; he could not do everything, and follow every legal contortion at the local level (thought it would have been nice if he had people who were focused on that...) Where there was a strong system like Ohio and Florida - win. Weak system like GA -loss.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:10 PM (zr5Kq)

203 I dont care about political, parties, the left has succeeded in making them irrelevant. There is just the left, then us. The left has seized control and they are not going to leave it to an "opposition party' to take it back in an election.
Not a swipe at CBD or anyone else, just an observation, but I don't think it has dawned on everyone or sunk in that the left is going to continue to secure their power by any means necessary.

They telegraph daily what they want to do to people that oppose them. Until that starts happening we'll just continue to flail about trying to figure out what to do.

Posted by: JROD at February 21, 2021 01:11 PM (0jZnq)

204 Absolutely nothing will ever happen to right this ship unless and until we have secure voting.

The only way that happens is if there is a fundamental shift in the culture, turning away from corruption and sin toward virtue and truth. We have to stop being so self-centered, self-focused, and self-promoting and think of the future, of others, and most importantly of an absolute, objective standard of right and wrong to which all are subject.

Until that happens, no band aids are going to stop the gushing artery from bleeding our country out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:11 PM (KZzsI)

205 For those of you who saw the morning thread, wifey took 20 seconds to come up with UPSTART and STARTUP. Damn...

Posted by: ... at February 21, 2021 01:12 PM (uEbPt)

206 If I wrote an optimistic fantasy of American future, that's the solution I'd use.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

I like to fantasize that SCOTUS will behave honorably, and throw out PA, MI, WI and GA electoral votes due to fraud...and punish the guilty. Neither of us will get our dream.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 01:12 PM (ONvIw)

207 Did anyone see that DOE order 202-21-1 to ERCOT? Where the Biden administration basically told Texas to make sure they were considering the environment when trying to get any needed power?{/i]

yeah, it basically said that Texas can run two 12MW plants for a couple days for over an order of magnitude price increase.

it was an FU.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 01:12 PM (5R0iA)

208 So absolutely right, even with massive fraud - both houses are even

There are two reasons for that.

1) the voter fraud was targeting the presidency, with only the usual amount directed at congressional races (until Georgia runoffs).
2) the GOPe is mostly amenable to Democrat plans, so its not that troubling for them to have some power in congress.

But watch in 2022 if you really still need a cluebat. Of you can keep trying to kick that ball Lucy is holding. Maybe THIS time she won't yank it away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:13 PM (KZzsI)

209 197 Bif,
Is your mom doing ok?
Posted by: lin-duh at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (UUBmN)

Hi Lin-Duh, yes she's doing much better.

Posted by: BifBewalski - cannot wait to get out of this car and be home at February 21, 2021 01:13 PM (58TaB)

210 I get being pissed off. But what I don't get is the pie in the sky that crushing Republicans is going to save anything. If we are talking stopping Leftist Statism, as soon as possible,I would say get rid of the flotsam and do what it takes to win again. That includes cutting off the cheating, but to do that we need people on the ground, not randos that want to get the name recco in Congress.
Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:09 PM (Veofh)

Republican voters need to take a good hard look in the mirror too. WE supported overseas adventures, WE were on board with the "free trade" movement with China, WE let these reprobates in the Republican Party get away with paying lip service to us for years.

It's ultimately our job. If the GOP fooled us in the past, fine. It's time to stop blaming them, and get on with the business of taking this seriously, if we want change.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 01:13 PM (oQ94s)

211 *stomping not stumping , but you get the idea

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:13 PM (zr5Kq)

212 >>>200 >>Did anyone see that DOE order 202-21-1 to ERCOT? Where the Biden administration basically told Texas to make sure they were considering the environment when trying to get any needed power?
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ERCOT should be eliminated.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:14 PM (1XrCq)

213
I think having all 50 states secede from Washington DC would be just
hilarious. OK you have your little swamp with the nice monuments, its
all yours. We'll take the rest. If I wrote an optimistic fantasy of
American future, that's the solution I'd use.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:07 PM (KZzsI)
Trump should have moved much of The Swamp, far from The Swamp. It is a company town and he didn't make a dent in it. Sure some Hawaiian judge would have intervened, but that was always the case.

truth be told, many of those politicos on the right and left move to the swamp and have no desire to ever go back.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:14 PM (Veofh)

214 WE were on board with the "free trade" movement with China

I don't actually recall any sort of broad support for that from conservatives, only pundits. Most conservatives went "red China? Why are we offering them great trade deals again? Aren't they are enemy???"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:15 PM (KZzsI)

215 "Destroying age old parties and going third party in this country does not have a very good history."

We haven't destroyed a major party in 150 years, what are you talking about?

Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:15 PM (qH6FZ)

216 Trump should have moved much of The Swamp, far from The Swamp.

He did move some. A few of the people he appointed to cabinet positions weren't worthless and they got a lot done. Ag department for example is mostly decentralized now, which the Ag people moan and complain about constantly now.

Mind you all those changes the Biden team can reverse in a matter of months, but it was done.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:16 PM (KZzsI)

217 This is so cute...y'all talking about elections as if they actually matter.

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 01:16 PM (XxJt1)

218 Thing is, they did not get away with fraud in th down ballot voting. Even in NY, was it Tenny?, won by 6 votes because of the recount. It took massive fraud to overcome the margins even in the major blue cities and they made it happen with mail in ballots. You do not get that kind of situation in off year elections and even if you do, it only affects the already blue cities. Remember Trump won a huge majority of red counties. We also have redistributing working in our favor.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 01:16 PM (sd8p8)

219 Abolish the federal government except for the post office.

No one needs it except the grifters, looters and moochers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 01:16 PM (R/m4+)

220 ERCOT should be eliminated.

Mainly because it is redundant.

You have DoE, FERC, then TERC, PUC, Texas Railroad Commission, the NatGas industry, and ERCOT. They all do the same thing.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 01:17 PM (5R0iA)

221 Redistricting

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 01:17 PM (sd8p8)

222 It's almost certain the GOP will win the House in '22. It would be the absolutely boring "normal" thing to happen, it's very likely.

Regardless of what the GOP does or says.

And? I notice those who use "we" when talking about politics, and especially about parties, are usually not too strong on the actual substance of what it's all about.

2010 was the 2nd largest political earthquake in American history, in terms of partisan change in office-holders.

Changed little. The current GOP is barely an opposition, in the minority, and absolutely not the instrument of its voters or the engine of truly popular change, in the majority. "We" and "our team" reflects an unserious approach by a voter, not an interest in political matters.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:17 PM (OTzUX)

223 On the road again.

Later.

Posted by: BifBewalski - gaaaahhhh! at February 21, 2021 01:18 PM (58TaB)

224 Abolish the federal government except for the post office.

No one needs it except the grifters, looters and moochers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 01:16 PM (R/m4+)

And you need the PO for what? Junk mail?

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 01:18 PM (AwYPR)

225 It's ultimately our job. If the GOP fooled us in
the past, fine. It's time to stop blaming them, and get on with the
business of taking this seriously, if we want change.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 01:13 PM (oQ94s)
you are right. We were sold a bill of goods. What worked for Reagan simply does not work today. It is a different country and we face different threats. Some of the stuff Trump said early on bothered me a bit. But he was right on almost all of it. He was right about free trade, tariffs, the media, big business, all of it. In fact, the things I most did not like at first were the things he was the most right about.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:18 PM (Veofh)

226 This is so cute...y'all talking about elections as if they actually matter.

*shrug* I think for some people, its too hard to accept that we're past that point now. They have to cling to the dream. By 2022, most of the people here will be rah-rahing and talking about donations again as if the election is not a show.

Maybe they'll learn by next November.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:19 PM (KZzsI)

227 There won't be a successful third party, not in the next two years, or four. This is not a parliamentary system, there is no chance to form a coalition a split will weaken the right. Getting rid of nevertrumpers, the traitors who got in bed with the left to push Bidet into WH and who are an absolute minority fringe, is the best option.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:19 PM (zr5Kq)

228 Bif,
Have a safe uneventful drive home!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 21, 2021 01:19 PM (UUBmN)

229 And you need the PO for what? Junk mail?
Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 01:18 PM (AwYPR)

We need to keep them around as an example of why you do not want a federal government.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 01:20 PM (R/m4+)

230 DOE order 202-21-1 to ERCOT and the potential travel restrictions for Florida.

Sounds a lot like payback to me.

Those governors should consider a very strongly worded letter or something.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 21, 2021 01:20 PM (3H9h1)

231 Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:19 PM (zr5Kq)

Hear Hear!

Posted by: Whigs.. at February 21, 2021 01:21 PM (oHd/0)

232 Gonna say something that may get me banned. Based on the current status, the way out of this mess comes in a variety of calibers.
You KNOW that to be the logical outcome whether it's acknowledged or not, based on the present situation.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 21, 2021 01:22 PM (KATBx)

233 Until the States shutdown the election fraud, this is all bullshit.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 01:22 PM (2BZBZ)

234 Trump should have moved much of The Swamp, far from The Swamp.

Agreed. About four hundred miles East of DC.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 01:22 PM (5R0iA)

235 Trump for CA governor

Posted by: Paul at February 21, 2021 01:23 PM (hDUpZ)

236 74 million plus Trump voters got robbed blind in the election.

Yet the GOPe and Freedom, Inc. think the old playbook still applies.

Trump was the harbinger of a tectonic shift in American politics.

Christopher R. Taylor is right -- we're now in uncharted waters.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 21, 2021 01:23 PM (B5IGS)

237 LOL. First class mail is second class. The Amazon delivery service is first class.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 01:23 PM (2BZBZ)

238 Those governors should consider a very strongly worded letter or something.

Don't count on Son of Santa Anna to do that.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 21, 2021 01:23 PM (5R0iA)

239 If elections don't matter, there's no harm in trying to win. Sure, it's frustrating to have them stolen, but what else is there to do?

Posted by: zmdavid at February 21, 2021 01:24 PM (xqRaG)

240 Iron grampa, yes. Sadly, yes.

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 01:24 PM (XxJt1)

241 We can't fight or Civil War our way into a better people. We aren't going to fix the culture that made this nation into what it is now with bullets. The Revolutionary War happened because the people in the USA were of a certain cultural sort who valued freedom and came here to find a new life away from the tyranny and abuse of their home countries.

We're so steeped in post modern humanism and relativism now as a people that's what we want as a culture, no matter that there are exceptions in places like this. We number in the thousands. They number in the tens of millions.

That changes one at a time in hearts and souls, not top-down by force. And it takes time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:24 PM (KZzsI)

242 Good grief, it's not about a third Party, it's about getting one Party that represents and acts on the wishes of it's voters. That's never going to be the GOP. They just had the strongest and toughest leader in a century that tried to get them to do just that and they wouldn't. They actively work against us, so quit supporting them across the board. That means no voting for the GOP period.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:25 PM (qH6FZ)

243 How did the GOP start?

Right. By destroying one of the dominant parties.

Different world now, very much ossified, institutionally and in the electorate's mindset, into a "2 party system". But it's a de facto situation, not a "system".

In any case, it's all a question of whether marginal incremental change of the GOP is a better bet than quick split and replacement of the GOP. There is zero evidence that the former approach has any chance of success (in a timely manner), and the latter of course is a leap in the dark. But it's silly to pretend that the marginal approach has high chance of success, based on recent history, so the risk is not all in the second approach.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:25 PM (OTzUX)

244 but what else is there to do?

types, deletes, types, deletes.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 01:25 PM (2BZBZ)

245 I don't doubt that Nanzi Pelosi, and House Speakers before her, did a lot of hard work to claw to the top of that particular pig trough, but I don't for a minute think that person, whoever it is, does a lot of heavy lifting.

They have a shedload of underlings who do the grunt work.


The same ones that made Paul Ryan so effective.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 21, 2021 01:25 PM (yQpMk)

246 Runner, agreed!

We will know if it's happening if we start seeing Grennel, Noem, DeSantis as the voices of the party.
I think the taking down of the Lincoln Project is the beginning.
I also find myself going to GAB instead of Twitter for the latest gossip. If this becomes a trend, we are on our way.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 01:25 PM (sd8p8)

247 Purging of the Globalists will get rid of Never Trumpers too.

Trump has to figure a way to defeat the world's most advanced vote fraud machine or he loses.

Posted by: torabora at February 21, 2021 01:26 PM (Y274z)

248 This is so cute...y'all talking about elections as if they actually matter.
Posted by: creeper

County Sheriff and Prosecuting Attorney are the only political offices I will pay any attention to.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * inconspicuous and armed at February 21, 2021 01:26 PM (lPp+p)

249 FLYOVER and OVERFLY
FVCKOVER and OVERFUCK
OVERMYDEADBODY and MYDEADBODYOVER

This is kinda fun.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 21, 2021 01:26 PM (KAi1n)

250 A Congressional district is comprised of 700,000+ people for each Rep. You want to change something become a precinct captain. That being said, you have to go out and shake hands with everyone in your precinct. I have never had a PC contact me.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 21, 2021 01:27 PM (VEOh1)

251 Trump in Congress - even as Speaker - would be like Gulliver in Lilliput. They'd encase him a thousand procedural threads that would prevent him getting anything done.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 21, 2021 01:27 PM (YqDXo)

252 LinCon Project

Posted by: SFGoth at February 21, 2021 01:27 PM (KAi1n)

253 >>>Trump has to figure a way to defeat the world's most advanced vote fraud machine or he loses.
Posted by: torabora at February 21, 2021 01:26 PM (Y274z)
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So does the house and the senate. US

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:28 PM (1XrCq)

254 Concede CBD's point about Trumps strength not being command of the labyrinth of House rules and bureaucracy.
The fight now --with all major institutions and the House in control of the Communists-- is down to WILL POWER . .
And NO one in modern history has the energy and will power of Trump.
To stem the tide and counter attack Trump is THE person--whether it is as Speaker or what ever. Trump is the man. And as they say in horse racing--we must bet it ALL on the nose (ie Trump) to lead our fight and turn events back to Constitutional governance its a matter of WILL at this point--rules and establishment thinking be damned. .

Posted by: Voter theater. at February 21, 2021 01:28 PM (BjMKA)

255 A Congressional district is comprised of 700,000+
people for each Rep. You want to change something become a precinct
captain. That being said, you have to go out and shake hands with
everyone in your precinct. I have never had a PC contact me.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 21, 2021 01:27 PM (VEOh1)

A big reason why we lose.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 21, 2021 01:28 PM (Q9lwr)

256 If the Speaker of the House is not actually a Representative, do they get the protection of the "don't fvck with me, I'm on my way to Congress" clause?

Posted by: SFGoth at February 21, 2021 01:28 PM (KAi1n)

257 It's almost certain the GOP will win the House in '22. It would be the absolutely boring "normal" thing to happen, it's very likely.

I hope so, even if it gives us Speaker McCarthy. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind losing a couple of more Senators, especially if it means retiring Minority Leader Mcturtle.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 21, 2021 01:29 PM (yQpMk)

258 Shooting isn't going to happen and won't achieve anything, but the endless lame insinuations about it have helped degrade the HQ's comment section for quite a while, so there's that.

"Taking over the GOP" - in a timely way that actually results in important change - is likely as much a fantasy, though it's embraced by a very different mindset.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:30 PM (OTzUX)

259 We will know if it's happening if we start seeing Grennel, Noem, DeSantis as the voices of the party.



Already happening - CPAC '21 - who will be there and who will not. Trump cold shouldering Haley. And making it known. Change is happening fairly quickly, quislings will be marginalized.



I think the taking down of the Lincoln Project is the beginning. Yeah, those are done.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:31 PM (zr5Kq)

260 This is kinda fun.
Posted by: SFGoth at February 21, 2021 01:26 PM (KAi1n)
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There's a fellow that lives at Marina Del Rey for 900 a month. On his 40 foot boat that cost less than 100K.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:31 PM (1XrCq)

261 SUCKMITCH'SDICK and MITCHSUCKSDICK

Posted by: andycanuck at February 21, 2021 01:32 PM (d6he9)

262 Speaker is not about House rules (the House is a virtual dictatorship), that's much more the case in the Senate.

But in both cases, neither position is about procedure and rules, it's about politix for the caucus, and $$$$. Some members may seek a Speaker/Majority Leader for actual substantive reasons, but for most it's about re-election, and fund-raising/sharing in the party $$ and help for re-election.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:33 PM (OTzUX)

263 Realistically, Donald Trump is too old to be running for any new political offices. But considering the utter lack of anything resembling leadership in both parties, they'll no doubt continue to be terrified of the possibility.

Posted by: CppThis at February 21, 2021 01:33 PM (zcf1k)

264 I've said before, Republican Party is a Brand, classy and luxurious, with a pedigree like Lincoln and Reagan, traitors are the minority , they should be the ones leaving.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:34 PM (zr5Kq)

265 There's a fellow that lives at Marina Del Rey for 900 a month. On his 40 foot boat that cost less than 100K.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:31 PM (1XrCq)

great George Strait song. I wish were there paying that amount. Instead I live in Marina you pay, and the sites suck to be honest.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:34 PM (Veofh)

266 CBD, I am considering picking up this burden but I am so pissed at the Republican party I haven't made a choice yet.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 21, 2021 01:34 PM (VEOh1)

267 Turtle was just reeelected.
But Murkowski up and the Georgia idiot Warnock. Thune. Burr and Toomey retiring.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 01:35 PM (sd8p8)

268 Ben Had, enjoyed the toast the other day. You're drinking higher class booze than I. The Tullamore Dew is left over from your TXMoMe. I wildly over-estimated the be nessary amount. It turns out to be surprisingly good sippin' whisky but I still hide the label.

Hope all is returning to some semblance of normal down there. We should lose the last of the snow today. My water finally went off last night but only for about six hours.

Happy trails.

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 01:35 PM (XxJt1)

269 Trump apparently going to speak at CPAC.

Meh.

Taking over/changing the GOP is not a low-risk or high likelihood of success approach, however conventional and safe it "feels".

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:35 PM (OTzUX)

270 Trump as Speaker of the House. What a pipe dream. Congress critters vote for this. Even if Trump got 100 brand new representatives does anyone really doubt that 50+ of the old guard GOPers would vote for Pelosi or whomever the Dems were pushing rather than Trump? I guess Bannon thinks Trump as speaker in '22 and then POTUS in '24 is plausible but trying to dink with speaker would make POTUS in '24 less likely IMO.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 21, 2021 01:36 PM (Aashi)

271 Is it still the case in Congress that the rules say you have to read bills on the floor before voting unless there's unanimous consent to waive the requirement?

Someone should object and make them read the bills. Especially the multi-thousand page ones.

Posted by: zmdavid at February 21, 2021 01:37 PM (xqRaG)

272 Turtle was just reeelected.

But Murkowski up and the Georgia idiot Warnock. Thune. Burr and Toomey retiring.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 01:35 PM (sd8p

we can ban him. Just cut off all funding and see what they do. The left is clever mind you, we have seen it over and over again. They will support a business they care nothing about to make a point. Let them fund Mitch, I don't doubt they would do it if we cut him off.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:37 PM (Veofh)

273 1XrCq)

great George Strait song. I wish were there paying that amount. Instead I live in Marina you pay, and the sites suck to be honest.
Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:34 PM (Veofh)
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Do you live on a boat? A real estate agent was doing the interview and it seemed honest.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:37 PM (1XrCq)

274 Hey, rhom. You're a man of the world. Do you recognize this script?

https://flic.kr/p/2kDuEcp

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 21, 2021 01:37 PM (yQpMk)

275 264 I've said before, Republican Party is a Brand, classy and luxurious, with a pedigree like Lincoln and Reagan, traitors are the minority , they should be the ones leaving.
Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:34 PM (zr5Kq)

Its also a tainted brand. Many on the LEFT hate that brand, and won't vote for anyone with said brand.

And that brand has also betrayed many on the RIGHT... and some of us will no longer support it.

Note, Republicans even WITH Trump at the helm, pre election, only comprised 35% of registered voters.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2021 01:38 PM (oHd/0)

276 Ironic that throughout history, Democrats (Robesp, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pot, etc.) have never had any trouble purging their party of recalcitrant losers but the supposed adult party (the Republicants) can't. Identify all the Republi-cans, identify all the Republi-cants, and then just literally throw the Republi-cants out of the party. It's elementary (as in elementary school level), so why complicate it? Fait accompli is a complete protein and it's the best way to build strong political muscle.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 21, 2021 01:38 PM (KAi1n)

277 Last leader with a mastery of procedure was Robert Byrd in the Senate. "Procedure" in the House matters little, it's basically a dictatorship run by the Speaker.

Leaders have staff who are experts in all this. I knew some of them in the past. When the presiding officer of the Senate is presiding over something complicated, where procedure is important or unfamiliar, you'll see they are mostly just repeating what is whispered to them by the parliamentarian.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:38 PM (OTzUX)

278 The agent said that the condo's in the background were 4k a month.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:38 PM (1XrCq)

279 So what happened to Durham?

Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Zmnko)

280 Do you live on a boat? A real estate agent was doing the interview and it seemed honest.





Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:37 PM (1XrCq)

I don't doubt it. i was trying to be clever. I always wanted to live on a boat to be honest. My big concern would be what to do with my stuff. I guess I could sell it all.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Veofh)

281 "People may fail many times, but they become failures only when they begin to blame someone else. Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." ~ Oscar Wilde

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Vxu+H)

282 So if the GOP in states don't do anything constructive on election reform before next years primaries and general, how many of you are still going to vote in them?

Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (qH6FZ)

283 I would rather Trump stay retired and have a blast. If he wants to push certain people for election then I will vote for them.

As for the rest of the snakes, both R and D. I wouldn't waste time to check a box for one of them if my life depended on it.

Posted by: Drider at February 21, 2021 01:40 PM (R/UH9)

284 So what happened to Durham?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Zmnko)


2 w.....ah never mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 01:40 PM (85Gof)

285 284 So what happened to Durham?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Zmnko)


2 w.....ah never mind

I'm serious

Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (Zmnko)

286 So what happened to Durham?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Zmnko)


2 w.....ah never mind

I'm serious
Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (Zmnko)

So am I

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (85Gof)

287 zmdavid don't know about the House but in the Senate, as you say, reading is usually dispensed with by unanimous consent. First, second, third readings. I saw objection to that request used to delay things way back when I was there. It's not a filibuster - though with 1K+ page CRs, it would almost be like one, so not a bad idea actually. But wouldn't prevent an eventual vote.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)

288 So Biden may come to Texas next week because of the freeze. Nice timing - its now 70 degrees and balmy.


Raggedy Ann explained the delay and inaction by pointing out that presidential travel has a "big footprint" and Biden doesn't want to disrupt efforts there.

Imagine if Trump....

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (Ed8Zd)

289 I respect President Trump and what he tried to accomplish but I wouldn't trust his judgment for endorsements. Look at past history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (KZzsI)

290 "So if the GOP in states don't do anything constructive on election reform before next years primaries and general, how many of you are still going to vote in them?"

I couldn't care less what they do, I won't vote for them but don't you fret. They will always let you (and I) down.
Count on it.

Posted by: Drider at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (R/UH9)

291
bidens presidentcy will come undone by upcomming events

he was a dumb ahole before he lost his marbles now he is a grinning, squinting ahole

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 01:42 PM (r4bSV)

292 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (85Gof)

I believe he is the one who said Clinesmith should get 6 months in jail.. of course he got no jail time and Durham made no comment

Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:42 PM (Zmnko)

293 Donald Trump running to join of a group with hundreds of members after living in the White House for four years?

Does anyone really see this happening?

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (XxJt1)

294 282 So if the GOP in states don't do anything constructive on election reform before next years primaries and general, how many of you are still going to vote in them?
Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (qH6FZ)
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Pelosi wants to impose "California Rules" on elections for the whole country with HR 1. Blocking that should be a top priority. It's unconstitutional, but we can't count on the courts.

Posted by: zmdavid at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (xqRaG)

295 I couldn't care less what they do, I won't vote for them

Yeah they would have to show a serious "Come to Jesus" period of like 5 straight years of doing the right thing and fighting hard for me to even consider voting for the party ever again -- and that even assumes that the elections were fair and valid again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (KZzsI)

296 February 21, 2021 01:37 PM (1XrCq)

I don't doubt it. i was trying to be clever. I always wanted to live on a boat to be honest. My big concern would be what to do with my stuff. I guess I could sell it all.
Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Veofh)
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During the interview they talked about income and what if his business income increased would he move into one of those beach condo's.

He considered the question an responded, 'I'd buy a bigger boat'.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (1XrCq)

297 This is not political, but I can understand why it has over a million views. Guy finds a time capsule in his home, put together by a little girl in 1900. She left two glass plate photos, which he develops.

https://youtu.be/IoDj4mXdqmc

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (YynYJ)

298 Nothing happened to Durham, him and his staff are just doing what they always do, collecting a paycheck and pretending to be producing a "report".

Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:44 PM (qH6FZ)

299 Note, Republicans even WITH Trump at the helm, pre election, only comprised 35% of registered voters.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2021 01:38 PM (oHd/0)

but that is dump. Think of if Trump started his own party, think about what they would say about it. The reality is we can't hide, they hate us and they have proven that. We can rebrand or whatever, but it won't change their views. The only chance is to get involved at the ground level. If normals are not winning school board races, our brand will be dead soon enough. It all comes down to trying to bail out a sinking boat.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:44 PM (Veofh)

300 Durham, him and his staff are just doing what they always do, collecting a paycheck and pretending to be producing a "report".
Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2021 01:44 PM (qH6FZ)

Kinda like the rest of the federal gov ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 01:45 PM (85Gof)

301 I respect President Trump and what he tried to accomplish but I wouldn't trust his judgment for endorsements. Look at past history.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (KZzsI)

I trust his endorsements, especially now since he's not (I assume) going to endorse lame republicans just the good of the party, becuz Mitch made some trades, etc. He can push real and strong challengers to the rinos.

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 01:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

302 Pelosi wants to impose "California Rules" on elections for the whole country with HR 1. Blocking that should be a top priority. It's unconstitutional, but we can't count on the courts.
Posted by: zmdavid at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (xqRaG)

Supremes had a 'meeting' about the voter fraud that happened in 3 States on Friday.

We'll know more next week, but I'm not hopeful.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2021 01:45 PM (oHd/0)

303 During the interview they talked about income and
what if his business income increased would he move into one of those
beach condo's.



He considered the question an responded, 'I'd buy a bigger boat'.





Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (1XrCq)

a bigger boat is never a bad idea.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:45 PM (Veofh)

304 Trump now becomes the political assassin. He targets elected officials that need removal in 2022 and campaigns actively against them. He runs in 2024, wins, and then calls a constitutional convention for repeal of the amendment limiting the number of terms a president can serve. At his age he can easily serve 3 more terms.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at February 21, 2021 01:46 PM (M/Wbj)

305 A key reality is control of the Senate majority, and that takes wins in two elections for a start up New Party.

To be effective in 2022, you need an alliance with those senators who are not up for election in 2022.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at February 21, 2021 01:46 PM (EMi53)

306 HELP WANTED
Proofreader. Must be proficient at removing extraneous words.
Apply below.

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 01:46 PM (XxJt1)

307 >>a bigger boat is never a bad idea.
Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:45 PM




nice, how long did you wait for that to be tee's up ?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 01:47 PM (r4bSV)

308 Notsothoreau - re: that video. There should be more of that in our lives and less of all this.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 21, 2021 01:47 PM (KAi1n)

309 So what happened to Durham?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (Zmnko)


2 w.....ah never mind


I'm serious
Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (Zmnko)


So am IPosted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (85Gof)
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i know, let's ask the 'ron that was always assuring us the other shoe was about to drop...

Posted by: redc1c4 (*OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated) at February 21, 2021 01:47 PM (cLNC/)

310 I respect President Trump and what he tried to accomplish but I wouldn't
trust his judgment for endorsements. Look at past history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (KZzsI)

we know the mistakes he made. They were mainly cabinet choices. He expected too much and those that showed up delivered too little. But the Swamp never gave him or us a fair chance. We should remember that and not give them a chance. If not, this will go on and on.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:48 PM (Veofh)

311 293 Donald Trump running to join of a group with hundreds of members after living in the White House for four years?

Does anyone really see this happening?
Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (XxJt1)
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Only if he thought it would be the best way to thwart the O'Biden goals.
And it is right next door to the White House.
He would cast a big shadow.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 01:48 PM (1XrCq)

312 Biden could not pick out Texas on a map if it was colored yellow and the rest of the states were colored black.

He is a fucking buffoon.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at February 21, 2021 01:49 PM (M/Wbj)

313 nice, how long did you wait for that to be tee's up ?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 01:47 PM (r4bSV)

a very long time. I choose my shots here.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 01:49 PM (Veofh)

314 Durham will come.

Posted by: adolf mitchler at February 21, 2021 01:49 PM (d6he9)

315
A Republican caucus that re-elected Liz Cheney to a leadership position is going to make Trump Speaker? No, I don't think so.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 21, 2021 01:49 PM (mht8P)

316 Any brand needs a product. Can't exist by itself. For now , the product is Trump. When it was some creature like mcCain or romney, it was dying out.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)

317 They are trying to erase Trump as if he were never President.. I really want him to be vindicated

Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2021 01:51 PM (Zmnko)

318 Grump - well I really don't know, I think your guess of Arabic is as good as any, looks like it could be. I have zero familiarity with other languages in handwritten or cursive form, might also be Hebrew, or one of the South Asian languages. Or Geez or Tigrinya or .... Georgian. A few of the letters resemble Arabic.

And nice condition on the CZ-83s. Not much different than my surplus one. Doubt those really need much restoration. The Beretta looks pretty good too. You thinking of re-blueing?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:51 PM (OTzUX)

319 It's not a filibuster - though with 1K+ page CRs, it would almost be like one, so not a bad idea actually. But wouldn't prevent an eventual vote.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)
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I think it would be objectively good policy in addition to good tactics. Someone should also circulate video clips of especially absurd stuff in the bills being officially read.

If the house has this rule, I nominate Marjorie Taylor Greene for this task.

Posted by: zmdavid at February 21, 2021 01:52 PM (xqRaG)

320 let me join all the people saying Congress is NOT the place for Trump.

tearing apart the GOPe and re-building it, or creating a new party out of its wreckage? sure. creating a new social media environment, with its own standalone electronic backbone that usual suspects can't shut down? absolutely.
in Congress, you can bet your life that the establishment hacks, and the life tenure employees would sabotage him every step of the way.
go big or go home.

Posted by: redc1c4 (*OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated) at February 21, 2021 01:52 PM (cLNC/)

321 People nee to see an alternatives to "previousthink". Inertia - and we get Liz Cheney, who should have been turned out of the party, tarred and feathered. I command Wyoming for censuring her, but that has to be followed by dumping her in 2022.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:54 PM (zr5Kq)

322 You thinking of re-blueing?


Yes. I have had good results in browning first and then bluing with a variety of cold blues. The plum or browning is done with the metal heated just short of boiling water and seems to provide a durable basecoat and even that accepts the weaker cold blue making it more durable that just blue. I have 5 different commercial blues that I have to try. Each alloy of steel seems to react better to one than the others so you have to experiment a bit.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 21, 2021 01:55 PM (yQpMk)

323 That scrip looks like Hebrew to me but can't read it. Been too long since my Bas Mitzva.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 01:55 PM (sd8p8)

324 in Congress, you can bet your life that the establishment hacks, and the
life tenure employees would sabotage him every step of the way.
go big or go home.


It's not so much the establishment hacks, it's trying to do things without Nanzi and Shuck Fumer's mafia goons stalking you and your family until you do what they want. Axe Dondi what they'll do to you. He's not the same guy I followed throughout his candidacy. He got turned as soon as he got to DC.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 21, 2021 01:56 PM (HaL55)

325 Its' dead, Jim.

Posted by: Zombie Bones McCoy at February 21, 2021 01:57 PM (W4eKo)

326 A period photo here from the beach:
https://twitter.com/marinamaral2/status/
1363488876095016961

Posted by: andycanuck at February 21, 2021 01:58 PM (d6he9)

327 *wipes tears from fur of lapcat*

Thank you, notsothoreau

Posted by: creeper at February 21, 2021 01:58 PM (XxJt1)

328 297 This is not political, but I can understand why it has over a million views. Guy finds a time capsule in his home, put together by a little girl in 1900. She left two glass plate photos, which he develops.

https://youtu.be/IoDj4mXdqmc
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 21, 2021 01:43 PM (YynYJ)


Neat, but F** YouTube.

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 01:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

329 No one wants Trump. And when I say this, I am talking about both parties. They were doing just fine playing their assigned parts, pretending to do the tug-of-war that has been the linchpin between the Dems and the GOP. He ruined their cover. They are absolutely furious and that's why they will never stop with the perception and the rigged elections. Never again will he be allowed to hold office. Never again will anyone like him, with a backbone, will be allowed anywhere near D.C.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 21, 2021 01:59 PM (ZE5eB)

330 219-you mean the fakers, takers and breakers.

Posted by: Dr. Vivi-Not my POTUS, FLOTUS, SCOTUS, FBI... at February 21, 2021 02:00 PM (USW1s)

331 Yes Sharon 2020 WAS peak Trump.
And the GOPe shiterfied it away. Permanently.
Who's going out of there way to vote R in the states that actually have elections. Who thinks MAGA wins in the anointment states.

Posted by: DaveA at February 21, 2021 02:00 PM (FhXTo)

332 People nee to see an alternatives to "previousthink". Inertia - and we get Liz Cheney, who should have been turned out of the party, tarred and feathered. I command Wyoming for censuring her, but that has to be followed by dumping her in 2022.
Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 01:54 PM (zr5Kq)

Does censure carry any actual penalty from the RNC? Like monetary/access to funds, which is the only thing they really care about....

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 02:01 PM (Ed8Zd)

333 The word was persecution not perception.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 21, 2021 02:01 PM (ZE5eB)

334 Grump that's very cool, I've never done any sort of refinishing. But as I said the finish on those -83s isn't too bad as it is. My surplus is just a tad better.

And I wanted the stainless version of the Beretta, or of its close cousin, the 84? Can't remember. "Cheetah", maybe. Almost bought a new one right before it went out of production, or dropped off the CA "roster" (or both, can't recall).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 21, 2021 02:02 PM (OTzUX)

335 Yes. I have had good results in browning first and then bluing with a variety of cold blues. ...
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 21, 2021 01:55 PM (yQpMk)
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And his wife never caught him using the kitchen oven either.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 02:02 PM (1XrCq)

336 295-----and that even assumes that the elections were fair and valid again.

Nope, won't happen. The stench that hangs over this nation will never go away.
2021 was the honest to God first step into a thousand years of darkness as Ronald Reagan once said.

You won't ever see voting machines, truck loads of false ballots, and people willing to push vague laws and/or break laws to make sure they count votes in secret to ensure outcomes that even Stalin would be impressed with.

Posted by: Drider at February 21, 2021 02:03 PM (R/UH9)

337 Dammit, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a Founding Father!

Posted by: Zombie Bones McCoy at February 21, 2021 02:03 PM (W4eKo)

338 There is a NOOD!

Posted by: AZ deplorable isolated at February 21, 2021 02:04 PM (gtatv)

339 The GOP will go the way of the Federalists and the Whigs.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 02:04 PM (2BZBZ)

340 Does censure carry any actual penalty from the RNC? Like monetary/access to funds, which is the only thing they really care about....
Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 02:01 PM (Ed8Zd)


strictly symbolic, embarrassment for a name like Cheney to earn a censure

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2021 02:04 PM (zr5Kq)

341 >>>Never again will he be allowed to hold office. Never again will anyone like him, with a backbone, will be allowed anywhere near D.C.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 21, 2021 01:59 PM (ZE5eB)
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And never again will America be the same.
But which way will it go?

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 02:04 PM (1XrCq)

342 And his wife never caught him using the kitchen oven either.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 02:02 PM (1XrCq)



Heh. I did use to wait until she was out of town to use the oven. Now I have a big toaster oven thing for the shop.

I still have to wait for her to go to her mothers to run old mil stocks through the dishwasher.

I tried doing it in a big pot of water on the propane shrimp boiler but that proved a bad way. The time between raising the dents and cooking the wood is too close.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 21, 2021 02:07 PM (yQpMk)

343 And never again will America be the same.

But which way will it go?





Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 02:04 PM (1XrCq)
++++I am very bad at predictions. So far, we've allowed ourselves to be masked-up and shut-up, allowed ourselves to keep six feet apart from one another for no scientific reason other than it sounds about right. We've allowed the greatest theft of our country done to us by a stolen election. I don't see very much push back at all, so unless I am missing something, I foresee the populace just riding it out the best we can. But I have been wrong before, a lot of times.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 21, 2021 02:11 PM (ZE5eB)

344 "If I was him I would just sit back and enjoy life."

Yep. Who needs this shit?

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at February 21, 2021 02:15 PM (jWe5r)

345 Recently my 2youngest daughters and I drove to Florida. I truly was impressed by all of the Trump signs along the way. Billboards, lawn signs and flags were everywhere. But the sign that I loved the most was a large billboard saying good bye to Rush. I love the south.

Posted by: Chillin the most at February 21, 2021 02:19 PM (lonOK)

346 Y'know, Trump does NOT need to be an elected Member of Congress to win election from the House as their Speaker.

And he could lean heavily on a knowledgeable and experienced Parliamentarian as to the intricates of moving and/or blocking bills, motions and other tricks of the trade. Someone as sharp as Cruz (but not Cruz), right at his elbow, whenever needed. And then run rampant through the Democrat agenda, killing off every bad idea they proffer, and forcing the (R) side to push through ONLY what's good, Constitutional and RIGHT. A good run of this would see another (R) wave in the mid-terms, and tee-up 2024 to perhaps, even overcome the Margin of Dominion. How? No Federal Election Funds to any State still using the accursed machines. Spending Bills must originate in the House. This one would be a fine start.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 21, 2021 02:20 PM (QzJWU)

347 329 No one wants Trump. And when I say this, I am talking about both parties. They were doing just fine playing their assigned parts, pretending to do the tug-of-war that has been the linchpin between the Dems and the GOP. He ruined their cover. They are absolutely furious and that's why they will never stop with the perception and the rigged elections. Never again will he be allowed to hold office. Never again will anyone like him, with a backbone, will be allowed anywhere near D.C.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 21, 2021 01:59 PM (ZE5eB)

This is why we must break the GOPe, even if this means a Dem supermajority in 2022. The best chance the country has is if we put enough 'moderate' Dems in to revive the Blue Dogs. They have the best shot to moderate the Senate, because we know the Rs can't and won't do it. Best case, Sienna and Manchin have a bloc behind them. Worst case, they put in a bunch of Doug Joneses that are out next cycle. Either way, we get The Turtle out of leadership.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 21, 2021 02:21 PM (4tiP2)

348 If anything I'd like to see Trump as governor of CA. Big state, could be a big turnaround due to conservative values.
But yeah I'd also like to see him enjoy some privacy and rest from the persecution.

Posted by: President-Elect pj at February 21, 2021 02:21 PM (G1dq6)

349 Trump already spent $2 billion of his personal fortune for this country.

Either the courts give him the office he won in a landslide or he should retire and be kingmaker.
The Precinct Project is a way we can punish the traitors in the party.

Posted by: Valiant at February 21, 2021 02:59 PM (3MiF8)

350 Trump does not have to hold office to be a useful political leader, any more than Rush Limbaugh did.

Posted by: MW at February 21, 2021 03:00 PM (gWtVa)

351 "A more realistic position for President Trump is as the leader of the New PartyTM,"

Just vote for the democrats already. Your every retarded solution to every problem you see seems to be to destroy the only thing that stands between them and total domination.

Posted by: Burning at February 21, 2021 03:13 PM (K2Psk)

352 This is why we must break the GOPe, even if this means a Dem supermajority in 2022.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 21, 2021 02:21 PM (4tiP2)

And when every illegal is a citizen, when there are 2 new states with 4 new democrat senators, the supreme court is packed with Soros backed judges and your guns are taken away you will have no choice but to shut your mouth and do as you are told.
Lets face it, so many of you here were born to make yourselves irrelevant.

Posted by: Burning at February 21, 2021 03:19 PM (K2Psk)

353 Purge the party now. No more Bushies, no more knee walking Grahams, no more pussies like Romney.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at February 21, 2021 03:20 PM (EcD5Y)

354 "A more realistic position for President Trump is as the leader of the New PartyTM, whatever that may be."

I don't think it will be a new party, per se. Trump was smart enough to avoid the third party trap in 2016. I don't see why he would fall for it now.

But I hope for a revamped Republican party with Republican politicians who are not afraid of their own shadows.

Posted by: Ralph the Gladiator at February 21, 2021 03:28 PM (5FiEy)

355 Just vote for the democrats already. Your every retarded solution to every problem you see seems to be to destroy the only thing that stands between them and total domination.

Posted by: Burning at February 21, 2021 03:13 PM (K2Psk)



Why do we care which party lies to our faces and refuses to do what we ask?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 21, 2021 03:28 PM (yQpMk)

356 Trump does have to run for office to be Speaker, and he can hire a parliamentary assistant. The Speaker can be more powerful than the President, ask Sam Rayburn

Posted by: Jean at February 21, 2021 03:30 PM (Xih1H)

357 Trump would be great as the governor of FL under President Ron DeSantis

Posted by: WhyBanned at February 21, 2021 03:36 PM (YkawN)

358 You may not realize it, but there are plenty of Democrat voters who would vote for a new party as long as it jettisoned the Romney, McConnell, Toomey, Paul Ryan nonsense of austerity for Americans, generosity for the world. Most people do not like holier than thou hectoring, whether it is coming from crazy SJW lefties or Rick Santorum. A new party that allowed people to oppose taxpayer funding of abortions and transgender mutilation, while declaring that they do not want to increase government power enough to ban them would have a chance to attract a broad swathe of common sense people. I simply do not think a majority of citizen voters like paying for free everything for illegals who then work for substandard cash wages. I do not think many love endless foreign wars.

Posted by: WhyBanned at February 21, 2021 03:49 PM (YkawN)

359 The Republicans replaced the Whigs within a decade, and this was before modern communication technology. It wouldn't necessarily be a decade out of power to replace the Republicans.

The Republicans collapse would be very rapid, once a viable alternative was proven.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at February 21, 2021 03:59 PM (Msrhc)

360 Trump leader of new party and consultant for candidates of new party. Ted Cruz could really use a page or two from Trump's playbook. He's a mess.

Posted by: Locke Common at February 21, 2021 04:42 PM (Rlbqb)

361 Just vote for the democrats already. Your every retarded solution to every problem you see seems to be to destroy the only thing that stands between them and total domination.

Posted by: Burning at February 21, 2021 03:13 PM (K2Psk)

If we had never wasted our time voting for Republicans who promised to stand between us and total domination, I would consider your criticism to be valid. Unfortunately, we voted for Rs that promised to end O-care and did not, we voted for Rs that promised to balance our budget and did not, we voted for Rs that promised to drain the swamp and did not, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Every time election time came they said to vote for them, and they would finally fix things. First they needed a majority House, then a majority Senate, then the Presidency. We gave them all those things, culminating in Trump, and they proceeded to slow-walk and screw up and assist the other side at every opportunity. No thank you, I'm done with that. If they make the call again in 2022, and we stupidly answer it to give these people more power, they will know that they own us. They need to be afraid of us.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 21, 2021 04:52 PM (f5BRL)

362 Trump can be Speaker without being a Member of Congress

Posted by: Tmitsss at February 21, 2021 04:59 PM (nvohK)

363 Yes indeed, cute but dumb.

He needs to anoint a successor within the next twelve months so that a unified GOP can be in victory mode for 2024.

Given his strong loyalty to Trump and the enthusiasm with which the MSM are starting to rough him up already (because they realize the threat he poses to them), Ron DeSantis is the obvious choice.

DeSantis/Noem '24.

Posted by: 370H55V at February 21, 2021 05:30 PM (WusEB)

364 No, no no. The idea is to write in Donald Trump on the ballot in the general election for any NeverTrumper that squeaks through.

Posted by: MikeN at February 21, 2021 06:55 PM (o/eHL)

365 &trade

Posted by: FriscoYoda at February 21, 2021 07:06 PM (+56GQ)

366

Posted by: FriscoYoda at February 21, 2021 07:10 PM (+56GQ)

367

Posted by: FriscoYoda at February 21, 2021 07:11 PM (+56GQ)

368 So your telling me that Nancy Pelosi can do stuff that Trump can't do better? I call BS on that. Harrumph!

Posted by: Dogbert at February 21, 2021 08:21 PM (BjKqr)

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