Science Isn't Dead, But It Is Ailing - Part 6
by Your Raving Roving Science Correspondent [Jay Guevara]

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Past entries in the series:

Science isn't dead, but it is ailing - part 5
Science isn't dead, but it is ailing - part 4
Science isn't dead, but it is ailing - part 3
Science isn't dead, but it is ailing - part 2
Science isn't dead, but it is ailing - part 1

With so many aspects of our culture now contaminated with leftist nonsense, it was probably inevitable that science would eventually succumb to the pathogen that is leftism, which has led to the politicization of science, i.e., science put toward leftist goals.

It began with social "science," which struggled for validation and acceptance as a science before giving up the struggle entirely as hopeless, and simply accepting being a stalking horse for leftist propaganda. The result was any number of "studies" on how conservatives are stupid, uneducated, bigoted, rigid, etc. Apparently we're stupid, uneducated, bigoted, rigid, but also wealthy masters of the universe. It's ... complicated.

The utility of such "studies" to the Left was perhaps most apparent in the Prop. 8 fiasco, the initiative ballot measure in California banning homosexual marriage. Jerry Brown, the state AG at the time, was charged with speaking in favor of Prop. 8, which he did with all the enthusiasm I'd bring to kissing Hillary Clinton on the mouth. Those attacking Prop. 8 proffered any number of "studies" that purported to show that homosexuality was great, really, A-OK, the bedrock of society, something that had made America great, etc. Jerry Brown, of course, inexplicably failed to produce any "studies" in rebuttal (?), so Judge Lance, after careful and even-handed consideration of the two sides, threw out Prop. 8 and then went home to his husband, the kabuki now completed.

Sociology is the pigpen in which leftist social "scientists" most commonly wallow because it was of dubious intellectual merit to begin with, and rapidly jettisoned any pretense or effort of being intellectually meritorious. Apart from Edward Frazier Franklin, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, and the early W.E.B. duBois (whose doctoral dissertation on suppression of the American slave trade is a masterpiece of scholarship).

Similarly, psychology and political science have long had their problems, with Herrnstein and Murray being rare examples of a more scholarly approach. Economics, with its assertion of the rational market hope hypothesis also has its problems, with equally highly regarded economists (e.g., Friedman and Keynes) offering diametrically opposed viewpoints.

But all these problems dwindle into insignificance when putative scientists segue from their expertise into the political arena. Paul Krugman is the poster boy for this malady, but it extends into what are nominally STEM subjects as well. Michael Mann, Paul Ehrlich, to name two, are examples. Bill Nye isn't even a scientist, but an erstwhile mechanical engineer and failed comic, but he gets in on the act as well. You know, mechanical engineering is just like atmospheric physics, when you get down to it.

The problem is that these worthies use whatever reputation they had in their fields - and some of them had stellar reputations - and use it in essence to argue from authority for political goals, oftentimes basically intoning ex cathedra pronouncements. Now the obvious objection to their doing so is that they are speaking beyond their expertise and/or the data they have to hand. They are offering their opinions as indisputable facts, and tend to dismiss with a deprecatory wave of the hand - but no substantive arguments - anyone expressing skepticism. A more fundamental objection, however, is that even if they were on absolutely sound ground in a narrowly drawn scientific sense, political decisions must reflect much more than a simplistic technical perspective.

Consider global warming, for example. (Oh, excuse me: I meant, "climate change.")The Faithful urge that we as a nation repent and make sacrifice to Gaia in hopes of propitiating her wrath (beating us over the head with Mann's hockey stick?) for our trespasses, we just might be able to escape that wrath by purchasing suitable indulgences (which fortunately the apostles and prophets (sp?) of the Faith are in a position to supply, for a modest fee).

These latter-day flagellants will brook no skepticism regarding the True Faith, and have literally suggested that blasphemers and heretics (aka "climate deniers") should answer to the criminal justice system. (Burning at the stake is, of course, out of the question, as it would add even more carbon dioxide to the atmosphere.) There is no room for debate in matters of the Faith. We must act now, or we're all doomed, doomed I tell you! It may even be too late now, but possibly through a suitably frenzied effort we might, just might, be able to SAVE THE PLANET!! It's for the children! Gaia vobiscum! Et cum carbon-neutral spiritu tuo! Oremus!

But ... a lot more goes into a policy decision than a simple consideration of the pertinent science (even if that science were sound). The decision also involves economics (risk/benefit calculations), geopolitics, the psychology, history, and culture of the country, the alternatives to the proposed policy, and the precedents that may be being set, to name a few. In short, we need a free-wheeling debate touching upon all of these considerations, and others besides.

Which is exactly what the Left tries so strenuously to shut down. The marketplace of ideas is repellent to them, perhaps because it includes the word "market." As Angela Davis once told me, "Of course the Party believes in free speech. You're free to tell the truth. You're just not free to tell lies." With "the Party" of course, being the arbiter of such.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:30 PM




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1 The good thing is that science being an objective practice cannot be done by the woke. If they attempt to twist the actual true facts they will do damage to themselves and others of similar perspective.

In the long run the woke will die out due to their inability to cope with the universe at large.

Sadly they'll be able to do a lot of damage to others while doing so.

Posted by: jakee308.com at February 20, 2021 07:34 PM (HvnWk)

2 I like sciency stuff

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 07:36 PM (iTXRQ)

3 They can't handle the truth.

Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2021 07:37 PM (Y274z)

4 The politicization started under one Anthony Fauci. You could not get a grant in the 90s unless it was tied somehow to AIDS. Many of us left science then.

Posted by: Valiant at February 20, 2021 07:37 PM (3MiF8)

5 I'm trying to think of something sciency to say but I got nuttin'.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 20, 2021 07:37 PM (axyOa)

6 "The call is coming from inside the lab!"

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 20, 2021 07:38 PM (vuisn)

7 If I was a shit brained lefty, I would post a picture of some stars and put the caption "I fucking love science" below it.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 07:38 PM (h1jJh)

8 The good thing is that science being an objective practice cannot be done by the woke.

Reality bats last, to be sure, but given sufficient social/ political pressure science can be perverted. Lysenkoism is a salient example of this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:38 PM (YqDXo)

9 Biden's new executive order on the Environment, says that all Fed Gov must factor in the 'Social Cost of Greenhouse Gases' when they decide on regulations.

Under Federal LAW, you have to take into account the COST Benefit analysis of regulations.

But as a Social Cost can't be measured, its only an opinion??? It throws that law right out the window.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:38 PM (oHd/0)

10 When you're ready for authoritative, indeed definitive discussion of Science, I'm your Vaccinium and Gaylussacia.

Posted by: Bill Nye, the Science Guy at February 20, 2021 07:39 PM (DMUuz)

11 The most asinine signs I've seen are the ones that proclaim "I believe in science." Science isn't a belief system, you ignorant doofus. You don't "believe" in it the same way people believe in the Bible.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 20, 2021 07:39 PM (HabA/)

12 And this latest weather in the Southern part of the United States is a demonstration of what happens when decisions are made using woke science.

Will those bad decisions be acknowledged at least by those who are unwoke? Maybe but they're certainly going to have to wad thru a lot of baloney on why this happened and what to do about it.

But it does put a marker on what can happen. They had to switch from Global Warming to Climate Change because warming doesn't usually do much harm very rapidly and can be mitigated. Whereas freezing temps and snow and wind can effect immediate deadly results.

Posted by: jakee308.com at February 20, 2021 07:40 PM (HvnWk)

13 The EO also says equity has to be accounted for. So so so centrist and unifying.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 20, 2021 07:40 PM (Hchzt)

14 >But as a Social Cost can't be measured, its only an opinion??? It throws that law right out the window.
Posted by: Romeo13



now you're getting it

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 07:40 PM (iTXRQ)

15 Checki ng in, off to read content

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:41 PM (Cxk7w)

16 Science Isn't Dead, But It Is Ailing
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'Hide the decline' covers the results of all Left/Prog/Lib/Dem activities.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 20, 2021 07:42 PM (l0Lgi)

17 Disney is very popular with the left because it is entirely made up bilge water with floaters.

Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2021 07:42 PM (Y274z)

18 Holy crap. I was FIRST! And didn't even realize it.

Posted by: jakee308.com at February 20, 2021 07:42 PM (HvnWk)

19 7 years ago the government forced my company to install emissions control equipment at the cost $2.5 million dollars to save the environment. Now the technology that they forced us to use is going to be banned and we will be forbidden from using it to save the environment.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (h1jJh)

20 Back in the days of the Soviet Union, any publication on any subject had to include the mandatory homage to the glories of Marx and the workers utopia. Any subject from army doctrine to advanced math. The books are hilarious in this.
What we see today is no different.
Complete nonsense.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (axyOa)

21 I missed the chess tits
But I did not miss the prof, you see.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (CZm2G)

22 How is Disney going to incorporate transgender fish?

Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (Y274z)

23 Climate isn't anything that is going to be altered by humans, disregarding the monumental arrogance shown by believing man can actually do so.

Coping with the particular is the only practical solution, i.e. put the jacket on when it cools and take it off when it warms. Doing so ensures or vastly increases the odds of survival.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (KATBx)

24 Just noticed some how my nic gained a .com added to it.

I've noticed some other sites are acting strangely concerning user names and such.

Hmmmm

Posted by: jakee308 at February 20, 2021 07:44 PM (HvnWk)

25 Can someone on the left explain how we got out of the ice age without CO2 emissions from humans?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 07:44 PM (h1jJh)

26 >>>How is Disney going to incorporate transgender fish?
Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (Y274z

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I don't have any idea, but will probably include help from David Attenborough.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 20, 2021 07:45 PM (CKRdI)

27 4 The politicization started under one Anthony Fauci. You could not get a grant in the 90s unless it was tied somehow to AIDS.
Posted by: Valiant at February 20, 2021 07:37 PM (3MiF


Fads and fashions in science have long been a problem, enforced by the funding agencies.* In the early 70s it was solar energy. Then cancer. Then it was industrial catalysis. (If I heard one more seminar on the water gas shift reaction, I'd have gone postal.) The fetishization of AIDS - in response to pressure from homosexuals - was only step, albeit a nefarious one, in the process, and by far the most politicized one that set the tone thereafter.

*A former colleague was informed that his funding was going to be eliminated henceforth. Later in the same week, he received the Nobel Prize for his research that the agency had funded.

They reinstated his funding. He laughed as he told me the story.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:46 PM (YqDXo)

28 >>>11 The most asinine signs I've seen are the ones that proclaim "I believe in science."
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Wonder if Bastardi predicted the cold snap?

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 07:46 PM (CZm2G)

29 I theorized to a friend that one of the reasons Covid has been so overblown is that leftists were not making the progress they wanted with climate change in their quest to amass power over the population. Covid was much more personal to people, so the leftists were able to leverage it more than they could with climate change.

Posted by: Emmie: grubby, low-born, non-billionaire commenter at February 20, 2021 07:46 PM (ofYez)

30 22 How is Disney going to incorporate transgender fish?
Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (Y274z)

The Incredible Mr. Limp...it... of course.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:46 PM (oHd/0)

31 Just noticed some how my nic gained a .com added to it.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 20, 2021 07:44 PM


We initiated a new top-level domain. Check it out!

Posted by: lincolnproject.con at February 20, 2021 07:47 PM (DMUuz)

32 "woke science"

More like "science-ology". This malevolently juvenile bullshit will be the death of us all. As I half-willowed in the previous thread, what do we do when civilization itself has jumped the shark?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 20, 2021 07:47 PM (6cMoU)

33 Posted by: Emmie: grubby, low-born, non-billionaire commenter at February 20, 2021 07:46 PM (ofYez)

CDC took the 2020 total US Death count from all causes off their site.

It was available right up until early Jan, then suddenly disappeared when it did not show a significant increase in US deaths.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:48 PM (oHd/0)

34 time for a dlink

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 07:48 PM (CZm2G)

35 We are doing the exact same thing now as we did under the Trump administration, only NOW we are "following the science". FUCKING JACKASSES I SWEAR TO GOD.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 07:48 PM (h1jJh)

36 I love how every Leftist these days, especially during a press conference has to throw in how they use science to come up with the bull shit they are pushing like that makes it indisputable.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:48 PM (Cxk7w)

37 But it does put a marker on what can happen. They had to switch from Global Warming to Climate Change because warming doesn't usually do much harm very rapidly and can be mitigated.

I suspect that they did that in response to the Gore effect, viz., that any time Algore was scheduled to give a speech on global warming, an embarrassing blizzard ensued.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:49 PM (YqDXo)

38 Just noticed some how my nic gained a .com added to it.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 20, 2021 07:44 PM

Heh
Heh
Heh

Posted by: Bob from NSA at February 20, 2021 07:49 PM (axyOa)

39 We are doing the exact same thing now as we did under the Trump administration, only NOW we are "following the science". FUCKING JACKASSES I SWEAR TO GOD.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks

The Trump-Fauci Covid 19 team apparently didn't communicate very well with the Biden-Fauci Covid 19 team.
The common element in both was.....Dr. Fauci.

Makes you kind of go....DOH! (and slap your forehead)

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (tjZg/)

40 I love how every Leftist these days, especially during a press conference has to throw in how they use science to come up with the bull shit they are pushing like that makes it indisputable.
Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:48 PM (Cxk7w)

Even better is social media, which will fact check YOUR scientific assertions, with opinions.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (oHd/0)

41 It was available right up until early Jan, then suddenly disappeared when it did not show a significant increase in US deaths.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:48 PM (oHd/0)


Dang! I wish I had taken a screen shot!

Posted by: Emmie: grubby, low-born, non-billionaire commenter at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (ofYez)

42 Diogenes, that is something I think of every time I see a poorly reasoned, fact- and reality-challenged bit of argument (i.e. any) from the authoritarians and their faux science errand boys and rent-seekers.

Every Soviet book began with either a quote from Lenin, or from Brezhnev (this was the late 70s). Literally automatically the first thing in the book. I bought quite a few publications (very cheap, mailing them was cheap, good souvenirs in Russian) when I was there (now lost in moves, etc). The major works of Marx, Lenin, et al. But in browsing through contemporary stuff, the pattern was pretty striking, and pathetic of course.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (OTzUX)

43 I suspect that they did that in response to the Gore effect, viz., that any time Algore was scheduled to give a speech on global warming, an embarrassing blizzard ensued.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:49 PM


Who says Gaia doesn't have a sense of humor?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (DMUuz)

44 Where I live it gets cold and snowy every winter. If I'm not prepared it's my fault. Texas gov't is at fault for what happened to people there.

Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (+ya+t)

45 With close to 400 thousand or whatever they claim is total from Covid deaths that should be sticking out.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:52 PM (Cxk7w)

46 It be very interesting how many hordians are or were faculty members

Posted by: MAxIE at February 20, 2021 07:53 PM (dVkJu)

47 Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (KATBx)

I always wonder do they really think we will believe that we can make a dent in what purportedly took at least decades to cause?

Their theories don't add up which is why so many folks are skeptical and only the young and naive and those with ulterior motives spout these theories.

And that's not counting the size of the effort that would be needed to accomplish any visible effect.

I accept that damage may have been and is being done to our environment. That said we are NOT going to affect any change that will be of use within the short time they claim is available.

As they say; it just doesn't add up. So why should anyone impoverish themselves and the nation for a speculative cure.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 20, 2021 07:53 PM (HvnWk)

48 Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. One book I was thankfully assigned 3 different times in senior year of high school/freshman year of college.

TLDR: science is a human endeavor that gets heavily politicized and distorted, and "revolutions" occur only partly as a result of the actual science changing.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 20, 2021 07:53 PM (OTzUX)

49 >>> but also wealthy masters of the universe. It's ... complicated.

lol

But that us beyond the scope of their lectures.

Posted by: 4 at February 20, 2021 07:53 PM (KnJdm)

50 Where I live it gets cold and snowy every winter. If I'm not prepared it's my fault. Texas gov't is at fault for what happened to people there.
Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (+ya+t)

Add in the Federal Government as well.

You know there are now mandates as to how much 'Green' energy you are supposed to use?

And Texas asked for a Waiver for DOE, and was DENIED even though they were in the middle of a storm.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:53 PM (oHd/0)

51 Fact checking means comparing your statement against leftist dogma

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 07:53 PM (h1jJh)

52 I'm probably gonna get in over my head here, but let me try this out:

All these "scientists" and "engineers" need to show me that they can calculate the energy density of the various fuels available to us today.

And then, if their numbers are on the up and up, logically defend their insistence on the pie in the sky, unicorn farts that will power the utopia they promise us.

To steal a turn of the phrase from Shakira (Hips don't lie)...neither do the basic energy calculation breakdowns.

Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 07:54 PM (BgMrQ)

53 45 With close to 400 thousand or whatever they claim is total from Covid deaths that should be sticking out.
Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:52 PM (Cxk7w)


News media have stopped using the phrase "grim milestone" when talking about Covid. It's like we have a different president or something.

Posted by: Emmie: grubby, low-born, non-billionaire commenter at February 20, 2021 07:54 PM (ofYez)

54 Jake a .308cal would be better.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:54 PM (Cxk7w)

55 I theorized to a friend that one of the reasons Covid has been so overblown is that leftists were not making the progress they wanted with climate change in their quest to amass power over the population. Covid was much more personal to people, so the leftists were able to leverage it more than they could with climate change.
Posted by: Emmie: grubby, low-born, non-billionaire commenter at February 20, 2021 07:46 PM (ofYez)


If you reflect on this, where do all the warning re existential crises come from? The Left, without exception.

My conjecture for why is that in the face of an existential crisis, people will find it more acceptable - or at least less unacceptable - to abrogate normal checks and balances. (See, e.g., Lincoln suspending the writ of habeas corpus, and freedom of the press, during the Civil War.)

Anyone protesting against such abrogation can then be demonized as a wrecker or deviationist someone who does not care about the welfare of the people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:54 PM (YqDXo)

56 7 years ago the government forced my company to install emissions
control equipment at the cost $2.5 million dollars to save the
environment. Now the technology that they forced us to use is going to
be banned and we will be forbidden from using it to save the
environment.

Behold your tax dollars atwerk.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 20, 2021 07:54 PM (HaL55)

57 I love how every Leftist these days, especially during a press conference has to throw in how they use science to come up with the bull shit they are pushing like that makes it indisputable.
Posted by: Skip

Science, technology and engineering had a great run in the world in general and the United States in particular up until some time in the last 40 years. Hard to pinpoint exactly where we started going off track, but we have.
Science, technology and engineering won WWII, and largely won the Cold War. It put Americans on the Moon.
It did a lot of very positive things. So it has this magic effect when used in the present day, even though we are (as a country) straying away from being honest, truthful and objective about science.
People in the media are generally idiots, so when they use these terms, I know they are bullshitting us.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 07:55 PM (tjZg/)

58 Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. One book I was thankfully assigned 3 different times in senior year of high school/freshman year of college.

Fun fact: I've never read his book.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:55 PM (YqDXo)

59 Any movie recommendations for tonight?

I watched "Midnight Special" last night and it blew.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 20, 2021 07:55 PM (vuisn)

60 The major works of Marx, Lenin, et al. But in browsing through contemporary stuff, the pattern was pretty striking, and pathetic of course.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (OTzUX)

rhomboid,
I had an Egyptian colonel point out to me how they wrote their army doctrine like the Russians. He said they'd laugh when they had to add the obligatory political crap. He said typically they'd throw a paragraph or two on the end of every chapter and call it good.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at February 20, 2021 07:56 PM (axyOa)

61 I love how every Leftist these days, especially during a press conference has to throw in how they use science to come up with the bull shit they are pushing like that makes it indisputable.
Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:48 PM (Cxk7w)


They should be heckled, "WHAT SCIENCE?!", every time.

Posted by: 4 at February 20, 2021 07:56 PM (KnJdm)

62 If you reflect on this, where do all the warning re existential crises come from? The Left, without exception.

My conjecture for why is that in the face of an existential crisis, people will find it more acceptable - or at least less unacceptable - to abrogate normal checks and balances. (See, e.g., Lincoln suspending the writ of habeas corpus, and freedom of the press, during the Civil War.)

Anyone protesting against such abrogation can then be demonized as a wrecker or deviationist someone who does not care about the welfare of the people.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:54 PM (YqDXo)


Exactly this.

Posted by: Emmie: grubby, low-born, non-billionaire commenter at February 20, 2021 07:56 PM (ofYez)

63 Off damn bob sock

Posted by: Diogenes at February 20, 2021 07:56 PM (axyOa)

64 Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 07:54 PM (BgMrQ)

Ran the numbers a few years ago. You can convert the energy in a barrel of oil, to Kilowatt hours.

Then take the amount of oil used for transportation, and multiply it by that conversion factor.

You will find you would need to add 130% MORE electricity than we currently generate for all cars to be electric. Yes, MORE than DOUBLE.

And that is just generation... not the infrastructure you would need to the grid to get it to your home to recharge your car.

Whole thing was unworkable from the outset, but its like Recycling. It makes people FEEL good.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:57 PM (oHd/0)

65 Any movie recommendations for tonight?

I watched "Midnight Special" last night and it blew.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 20, 2021 07:55 PM (vuisn)

Death Hunt.

Posted by: 4 at February 20, 2021 07:57 PM (KnJdm)

66 I love how every Leftist these days, especially during a press conference has to throw in how they use science to come up with the bull shit they are pushing like that makes it indisputable.
Posted by: Skip


It's to cloak their position with the pelt of science, and thereby putting it beyond dispute.

Science is never beyond dispute. Their rubbish is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:58 PM (YqDXo)

67 Put yeast bugs into juice and it becomes alcohol.

Science!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 20, 2021 07:58 PM (n/szn)

68 This ties right back in to the Gods of the Copybook Headings post from earlier...

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 20, 2021 07:58 PM (nakwk)

69 61 I love how every Leftist these days, especially during a press conference has to throw in how they use science to come up with the bull shit they are pushing like that makes it indisputable.
Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:48 PM (Cxk7w)


They should be heckled, "WHAT SCIENCE?!", every time.
Posted by: 4 at February 20, 2021 07:56 PM (KnJdm)

Or, show me your work.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:58 PM (oHd/0)

70 Whole thing was unworkable from the outset, but its like Recycling. It makes people FEEL good.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:57 PM (oHd/0)

When the burning times come, the people who deny this (and similar computations) will be taken out and burned as fuel.

Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 07:58 PM (BgMrQ)

71 Off damn bob sock
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Busted!

Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 07:59 PM (+ya+t)

72 Dr. Varno, I'm watching Zero Dark Thirty

Posted by: Ben Had at February 20, 2021 07:59 PM (yip5o)

73 57 I believe we could tie that to sociology/psychology/anthropology being mistakenly elevated to "sciences"
See "Philosophy of Social Science" by Alexander Rosenburg

Posted by: MAxIE at February 20, 2021 07:59 PM (dVkJu)

74 Put yeast bugs into juice and it becomes alcohol.

Science!
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid.

Plant car parts and you get a bumper crop!

More science!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 20, 2021 07:59 PM (Rvt88)

75 Science is true only to the extent that it helps the socialist revolution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 07:59 PM (VVEnO)

76 The Trump-Fauci Covid 19 team apparently didn't communicate very well with the Biden-Fauci Covid 19 team.
The common element in both was.....Dr. Fauci.
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Fauci's two faces don't talk to each other.

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 20, 2021 07:59 PM (kTRt4)

77
As Angela Davis once told me, "Of course the Party believes in free speech. You're free to tell the truth. You're just not free to tell lies." With "the Party" of course, being the arbiter of such.
Posted by: Open Blogger


As the antifas like to say, "no free speech for fascists"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 20, 2021 07:59 PM (63Dwl)

78 Jay, thanks for your series on science. The intellectual decay really troubles me.

Posted by: Emmie: grubby, low-born, non-billionaire commenter at February 20, 2021 07:59 PM (ofYez)

79 12 Strong is on AMC I think, should go see a bit if I don't want to stay up.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (Cxk7w)

80 The buffoon news readers that bleat "following the science" like retarded sheep aren't even sniffing the farts out of the bus seats that science took to realityville...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (6cMoU)

81 A war flick sounds good.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (vuisn)

82 44 Where I live it gets cold and snowy every winter. If I'm not prepared it's my fault. Texas gov't is at fault for what happened to people there.
Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 07:51 PM (+ya+t)
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Funny thing about cold and ERCOT.
The top dog lives in Michigan and second to the top lives in ... Cologne, Germany.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (CZm2G)

83 63 Off damn bob sock
Posted by: Diogenes at February 20, 2021 07:56 PM (axyOa)

You do know that impersonating a Federal Officer is a Felony?

Posted by: Bob, NSA.. at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (oHd/0)

84 Kind of on topic

Wuhan Lab *Was* Cause Of COVID-19, Claims Award-Winning Scientist in New Study Citing 600 Pieces of Evidence.

https://tinyurl.com/2ttjnqzj

Posted by: 4 at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (KnJdm)

85 81 A war flick sounds good.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (vuisn)

Does... hmmm.... We were Soldiers is on Amazon Prime..

Posted by: Bob, NSA.. at February 20, 2021 08:01 PM (oHd/0)

86 These Arizona green tea gummies remind me of Jujubees.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 20, 2021 08:02 PM (vuisn)

87 80 The buffoon news readers that bleat "following the science" like retarded sheep aren't even sniffing the farts out of the bus seats that science took to realityville...
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (6cMoU)

They wouldn't know science if it fucked them in the ass 34 times on a single Saturday night like they were Fauci at a San Francisco bathhouse in 1983.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 20, 2021 08:02 PM (nakwk)

88 Finished my bottle of cognac
That's science

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 08:02 PM (Cxk7w)

89 84 Posted by: 4 at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (KnJdm)

It is a hollowed out gain of function precursor to a bioweapon.

We outsourced it because Urkle outlawed such research in 2015.

This is as smart as America hiring the Soviet Union to field test our A-bombs would have been in 1944.

Posted by: sven at February 20, 2021 08:02 PM (Lzpvj)

90 >Science, technology and engineering had a great run in the world in general and the United States in particular up until some time in the last 40 years. Hard to pinpoint exactly where we started going off track, but we have.


April 22, 1970. The first "Earth Day".

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:03 PM (iTXRQ)

91 Posted by: Bob, NSA.. at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM

My bank is conducting web stuff. I'm trying to balance my checkbook, how much do I have in my account? Please.

Posted by: AJ Duie at February 20, 2021 08:03 PM (vADaf)

92 Any movie recommendations for tonight?

I watched "Midnight Special" last night and it blew.
Posted by: Dr. Varno

A lot of people like The Umbrella Academy. There are two seasons on Netflix. It's kind of a superhero show. I pretty much liked it. CAVEAT! At least two homo subplots.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 08:04 PM (VVEnO)

93 45 With close to 400 thousand or whatever they claim is total from Covid deaths that should be sticking out.
Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 07:52 PM (Cxk7w)


Notice what they DON'T say: how many deaths occur normally. How can you evaluate their assertion without knowing that?

Let's provisionally accept their 400,000 figure, presumably for the last year. How many people typically die per year?

Per the CDC, 7000 people die every day (8000 in the winter). 7000 * 365 = 2,550,000. That makes all Covid deaths - and let's face it, they've been counting as Covid deaths people who get hit by a bus - at ~15% of all deaths. Now consider how many people generally die during a bad flu season ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:04 PM (YqDXo)

94 Posted by: sven at February 20, 2021 08:02 PM (Lzpvj)

That is essentially the gist of the article.

Posted by: 4 at February 20, 2021 08:04 PM (KnJdm)

95 The most asinine signs I've seen are the ones that proclaim "I believe in science." Science isn't a belief system, you ignorant doofus. You don't "believe" in it the same way people believe in the Bible.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 20, 2021 07:39 PM (HabA/)

Everyone believes in the Bible. It is factually so that there is a book commonly referred to as "the Bible".

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:05 PM (eoQWY)

96 A lot of people like The Umbrella Academy. There are two seasons on Netflix. It's kind of a superhero show. I pretty much liked it. CAVEAT! At least two homo subplots.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 08:04 PM (VVEnO)

The ghey shit was pointless but a lot of it was good.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 20, 2021 08:05 PM (nakwk)

97 >>>April 22, 1970. The first "Earth Day".
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:03 PM (iTXRQ)
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That was the first measurable event but there must have been much plate shifting preceding.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 08:05 PM (CZm2G)

98 We've had a succession of small snowstorms (1-4" guys since our one large one of 20-24"), a village employee and I were talking weather and he mentioned that the small snows are just budget busters. The amount of resources they use are nearly what a full blown storm will entail. 3 or 4 small snows and the snow removal budget is really strained.

It's odd, but I've never seen a town council take into account the fact that we CAN get a run of minor snows--it's like a universal blind spot.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2021 08:05 PM (KATBx)

99 94 Posted by: 4 at February 20, 2021 08:04 PM (KnJdm)

I gave a briefing using analytic inductive reasoning and open source intelligence gathering on this 2 novembers ago.

I won a lot of street cred in the command structure calling out what happened right down to the electoral irregularities a year out.

Didn't get a raise though.

Posted by: sven at February 20, 2021 08:06 PM (Lzpvj)

100 >That was the first measurable event but there must have been much plate shifting preceding.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog


Summer Of Love?

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:06 PM (iTXRQ)

101 It's seems that "showing your work" is racist math.

Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 20, 2021 08:07 PM (qu5Zx)

102 22 How is Disney going to incorporate transgender fish?
Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2021 07:43 PM (Y274z)

Nemo is trangendered. Or at least his father will be, as a missing female (only one per colony) is replaced by the only breeding male transforming into the new breeding female. The highest-ranked juvenile matures to become the new breeding male.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 20, 2021 08:07 PM (qyH+l)

103 This laptop is possessed, or I'm having a stroke typing.

Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 20, 2021 08:08 PM (qu5Zx)

104 Good news, by the way. Lurch, in his magnanimousness, has given us nine more years.

John Kerry warns humans have nine years left to make drastic changes or face climate catastrophe

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 08:08 PM (VVEnO)

105 101 It's seems that "showing your work" is racist math.
Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 20, 2021 08:07 PM (qu5Zx)

They can't show their math, because it's the "new math"...and no one understands that shit.

Posted by: Teachers Everywhere at February 20, 2021 08:08 PM (BgMrQ)

106 The most asinine signs I've seen are the ones that proclaim "I believe in science." Science isn't a belief system, you ignorant doofus. You don't "believe" in it the same way people believe in the Bible.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 20, 2021 07:39 PM (HabA/)


This.

Hell, I don't believe in science, by which they mean the result of scientific inquiry. I believe in the efficacy of the scientific method, applied to problems where it is relevant, but I do not necessarily believe the resulting conclusions out of hand. Show me your data. Then I'll decide. Skepticism is the sword and buckler of a scientist.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:09 PM (YqDXo)

107 There must now be 2 answers to every math problem and it ain't a right one or a wrong one. A generation that can't stack bricks is being raised.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 20, 2021 08:11 PM (yip5o)

108 Fender Mandocaster just sold at an auction

brought $511 + the vig

Posted by: REDACTED at February 20, 2021 08:11 PM (6iURM)

109 April 22, 1970. The first "Earth Day".
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:03 PM (iTXRQ)


The anniversary of Lenin's birthday.

Coincidence? If you are familiar with campus Reds, you KNOW it wasn't. It was originally scheduled for March 21, the vernal equinox, but then got moved, because reasons.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:11 PM (YqDXo)

110 As Angela Davis once told me

It always begs the question why she, or say Bill Ayers, hasn't had someone bust a cap on them all these years. How do these murderers get to, not only walk free, but become wealthy and rewarded?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 20, 2021 08:12 PM (G0bXQ)

111 John Kerry warns humans have nine years left to make drastic changes or face climate catastrophe
Again? How many "Nine Year To Save Gaia" are we allowed now? I'm pretty sure we've use 8 or 10 of them already.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 20, 2021 08:12 PM (HaL55)

112 aparently science is now a belief system like any other religion, climate change enviromentalism etc.

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 20, 2021 08:12 PM (r4bSV)

113 please don't tell Vox about curling

probably kill them

Posted by: REDACTED at February 20, 2021 08:12 PM (6iURM)

114 A war flick sounds good.
Posted by: Dr. Varno

Generation War a three part Kraut miniseries about WWII is good. Five friends expect a short, happy war. The Russkies disagree. CAVEAT: Must read subtitles.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 08:13 PM (VVEnO)

115 April 22, 1970. The first "Earth Day".

The centennial natal anniversary of Hereditary Nobleman Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov.

Imagine that.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 20, 2021 08:13 PM (qyH+l)

116 It's odd, but I've never seen a town council take into account the fact
that we CAN get a run of minor snows--it's like a universal blind spot.
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I remember a few years where the town ran out of salt so I see what you mean. Plows are running and throwing salt if it's one big one or 20 little ones.

Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 08:14 PM (+ya+t)

117 Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. One book I was thankfully assigned 3 different times in senior year of high school/freshman year of college.

Fun fact: I've never read his book.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:55 PM (YqDXo)

Back when it was trendy, you just needed to skim a few buzzwords out of it to get by.

Mostly, it came down to relabeling human nature with bigger, murkier terms. In science, as in most all human endeavors, there is a tendency to stick with what is working. When warts appear, you first attempt to repair the situation. If that doesn't work, at some point most say to hell with it and adopt a new solution. Before the change, most do not adopt it and the front runners are treated dismissively. After the change, everyone adopts the new view and it becomes conventional wisdom.

It is natural, and it works because usually the people who think the conventional wisdom is all wrong ARE cranks and it isn't worth wasting time on them.

Sounds simple, right? But use words like revolution and paradigm shift and you can clot up an entire semester.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:14 PM (eoQWY)

118 Jesse Watters doing a nice tribute to Rush.

Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 08:15 PM (+ya+t)

119 Or.... maybe...

A John Wayne night... She Wore a Yellow Ribbon...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 08:15 PM (oHd/0)

120 I remember a few years where the town ran out of salt so I see what you mean. Plows are running and throwing salt if it's one big one or 20 little ones.
Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 08:14 PM (+ya+t)

We had a set of problems in Cincy in the late 70s when one year an ice storm froze the coal piles solid, and it was too cold for salt to melt the ice on the roads.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:16 PM (eoQWY)

121 >Again? How many "Nine Year To Save Gaia" are we allowed now? I'm pretty sure we've use 8 or 10 of them already.

it's like that Henny Youngman bit from Goodfellas

"Guy went to the doctor, doctor gave him six months to live; guy couldn't pay his bill, doctor gave him another six months."

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:16 PM (iTXRQ)

122 I ditched cable years ago. Especially The Weather Channel ( i miss Stephanie Abrams bewbs mostly). Now i get the forecast from NOAA (also pc, but as so)

Todays record high for our region was 65, set in 1932 - fifty years after the industrial age began. Global warmering had the hammer down! The record cold was like 8nyears ago or something.

Science

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 20, 2021 08:16 PM (n/szn)

123 John Kerry warns humans have nine years left to make drastic changes or face climate catastrophe
Again? How many "Nine Year To Save Gaia" are we allowed now? I'm pretty sure we've use 8 or 10 of them already.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 20, 2021 08:12 PM (HaL55)

How many times did the USSR change the date when true Communism would arrive?

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:17 PM (eoQWY)

124 110 As Angela Davis once told me
---------------------------------------

It always begs the question why she, or say Bill Ayers, hasn't had someone bust a cap on them all these years. How do these murderers get to, not only walk free, but become wealthy and rewarded?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 20, 2021 08:12 PM (G0bXQ)
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Because we are not that kind of people.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 08:18 PM (CZm2G)

125 If we were that kind of people this crap would be over with.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 08:19 PM (CZm2G)

126 American socialism will be based on 9 year plans comrades, the Russkies just had the wrong timing.

Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 20, 2021 08:19 PM (qu5Zx)

127 John Kerry warns humans have nine years left to make drastic changes or face climate catastrophe
Again? How many "Nine Year To Save Gaia" are we allowed now? I'm pretty sure we've use 8 or 10 of them already.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 20, 2021 08:12 PM (HaL55)

Stop flying your fucking plane, Traitor Boy, and I might listen to your shit.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:19 PM (eoQWY)

128 Stop flying your fucking plane, Traitor Boy, and I might listen to your shit.
Posted by: Oldcat

*long face*

Posted by: John Flicka Kerry at February 20, 2021 08:21 PM (QzkSJ)

129 Because we are not that kind of people.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 08:18 PM (CZm2G)

Yet...

See Ace's thread of a couple of days ago about not playing nice anymore.

Posted by: Teachers Everywhere at February 20, 2021 08:21 PM (BgMrQ)

130 /off NEA sock

Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 08:21 PM (BgMrQ)

131 John Kerry warns humans have nine years left to make drastic changes or face climate catastrophe

And he knows this ... how?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:21 PM (YqDXo)

132 >And he knows this ... how?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara



science, dammit

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:23 PM (iTXRQ)

133 Ran across titles of a few war movies I like to see but need Netflix or Amazon prime I guess.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 08:23 PM (Cxk7w)

134 My science-related activities today consisted of taking apart and reassembling the plumbing under my bathroom sink. So far, all the water is staying on the inside of the pipes, so I must've done something right.

Posted by: PabloD, boop/bop/beep at February 20, 2021 08:23 PM (tA0ey)

135 Whole thing was unworkable from the outset, but its like Recycling. It makes people FEEL good.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 07:57 PM (oHd/0)

When the burning times come, the people who deny this (and similar computations) will be taken out and burned as fuel.
Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 07:58 PM (BgMrQ)

The Iron Law of Reality is that is something works, people will pay you for it. Until the Recycling Company pays ME for my trash, I don't believe in Recycling. Iron Ore companies pay the landowner for mining rights, yes?

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:23 PM (eoQWY)

136 And he knows this ... how?
Posted by: Deplorable

It's science you prole.

You should know this.

is a sarc tag needed?

Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 08:23 PM (JKh2y)

137 And he knows this ... how?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara



science, dammit
Posted by: DB- just DB

Yes. They read the entrails SCIENTIFICALLY

Posted by: Miklos the Haruspex at February 20, 2021 08:24 PM (QzkSJ)

138 According to all these prognosticators like Kerry and Prince Charlie the polar icecaps should have already melted and you could buy beach front property in Nevada and Ohio.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 20, 2021 08:24 PM (yip5o)

139 Hell, I don't believe in science, by which they mean the result of scientific inquiry. I believe in the efficacy of the scientific method, applied to problems where it is relevant, but I do not necessarily believe the resulting conclusions out of hand. Show me your data. Then I'll decide. Skepticism is the sword and buckler of a scientist.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Bingo. And show your methodology. Some of these studies are so badly conceived, there's no way they can deduce anything from them.
And statistics... you can't use a statistical model from MS Office and have good science, fer God's sake!

Posted by: MkY at February 20, 2021 08:24 PM (5hF5V)

140 What I like to say about global warming/climate change/whatever they decide to call it tomorrow:

"Sound theory does not require marketing."

(Seriously. "Climate change"? That just sounds dumb. Climate ALWAYS changes.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 20, 2021 08:25 PM (49Dnm)

141 John Kerry warns humans have nine years left to make drastic changes or face climate catastrophe

And he knows this ... how?
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I'm going with "What is the approximate length of Biden and Harris' presidential terms, Alex?"

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 20, 2021 08:25 PM (kTRt4)

142 Miklos, the entrails only imply.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 20, 2021 08:25 PM (yip5o)

143
>And he knows this ... how?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


He read it in the entrails of an owl.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 20, 2021 08:26 PM (63Dwl)

144 But it does put a marker on what can happen. They had to switch from Global Warming to Climate Change because warming doesn't usually do much harm very rapidly and can be mitigated.

I suspect that they did that in response to the Gore effect, viz., that any time Algore was scheduled to give a speech on global warming, an embarrassing blizzard ensued.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 07:49 PM (YqDXo)

This is absolutely true. It was warmening and warmening until the mockery started.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:26 PM (eoQWY)

145 But it does put a marker on what can happen. They had to switch from Global Warming to Climate Change because warming doesn't usually do much harm very rapidly and can be mitigated. Whereas freezing temps and snow and wind can effect immediate deadly results.
Posted by: jakee308.com at February 20, 2021 07:40 PM (HvnWk)

And because that way they can blame any changes in weather people don't like on capitalism and especially the United States.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 20, 2021 08:26 PM (49Dnm)

146 How many times did the USSR change the date when true Communism would arrive?
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:17 PM (eoQWY)

About as many times as the Millerites have changed the date of the Parousia.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 20, 2021 08:27 PM (qyH+l)

147 All my recycling goes in to this big green plastic barrel with a lid that the city makes me use, along with the trash.

Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 08:27 PM (JKh2y)

148 the entrails only imply.
Posted by: Ben Had


*huffs Delphic cave air*

Posted by: Miklos the Haruspex, pretty colors! at February 20, 2021 08:27 PM (QzkSJ)

149 The Iron Law of Reality is that is something works, people will pay you for it. Until the Recycling Company pays ME for my trash, I don't believe in Recycling. Iron Ore companies pay the landowner for mining rights, yes?
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:23 PM (eoQWY)
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Or they could reduce your garbage pickup fees.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 08:27 PM (CZm2G)

150 Because we are not that kind of people.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog

Biting my tongue over here Boss!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 20, 2021 08:27 PM (Rvt88)

151 If I never heard or saw any more from Kerry, it would be a definite plus. I endured that shitstorm during and after the Vietnam War, and in particular him.

One of my life goals is living long enough to piss on his grave. I figure I'm just mean enough to make it.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2021 08:28 PM (KATBx)

152 All my recycling goes in to this big green plastic barrel with a lid that the city makes me use, along with the trash.
Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 08:27 PM (JKh2y)

And in my neighborhood, it is dumped right in the same truck bed as the blue one for garbage.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:28 PM (eoQWY)

153 Ran across titles of a few war movies I like to see but need Netflix or Amazon prime I guess.
=====
I know how everyone feels about Amazon but they have a lot of content and cheap rentals. I'm a grain of sand in a desert to those assholes. Maybe Roku?

Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 08:28 PM (+ya+t)

154 And statistics...

My favorite area in discussions with my very liberal daughter. She's no dope; has a PhD, works professionally at a manager level. I have tried (and tried) to emphasize that statistics, numbers, performance, etc, can be plotted on results curves which are often bell curves. Things that occur outside a standard deviation or two are called "abnormal" because they are outside the center of the curve. She doesn't like these chats.

Posted by: LRob in TN at February 20, 2021 08:28 PM (jboH3)

155 I love plumbing science, like why did someone put threadlock as well as Teflon tape on a PVC into metal connection? Instead of a single piece of PVC, I also have to have a metal union to make the repair.

Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 20, 2021 08:28 PM (qu5Zx)

156 Or has it already been 3 years since AOC said we have 12 years?

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 20, 2021 08:29 PM (kTRt4)

157 You do know that impersonating a Federal Officer is a Felony?
Posted by: Bob, NSA.. at February 20, 2021 08:00 PM (oHd/0)

S'ok. I used to work in G Group.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 20, 2021 08:29 PM (axyOa)

158 here's one result of 'science' I see in my town: dumping.

Because the city makes it a pain in the ass to discard an old dishwasher or sofa, so people just dump them.

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:30 PM (iTXRQ)

159 Or has it already been 3 years since AOC said we have 12 years?
Posted by: screaming in digital at February 20, 2021 08:29 PM (kTRt4)

AOC came in 2 years ago, so it is less than 3.

Nine is a good number, as Gore will be retired or dead by the time it rolls around and someone else resets the date.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:30 PM (eoQWY)

160 Great stuff Jay. I really enjoyed this.

Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:30 PM (uEbPt)

161 >>>Because the city makes it a pain in the ass to discard an old dishwasher or sofa, so people just dump them.
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:30 PM (iTXRQ)
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My town's so backward the pickers took my double door refrigerator from the yard before I could carry out the doors.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 08:32 PM (CZm2G)

162 I think Gore and his released Chakra is responsible for the global warming. Pervert!

Posted by: Jmel at February 20, 2021 08:33 PM (bVhJi)

163 160 Great stuff Jay. I really enjoyed this.
Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:30 PM (uEbPt)


Thanks!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:33 PM (YqDXo)

164 I just remembered that huge world climate conference that had the snowstorm and all the leaders were stuck in airports.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 20, 2021 08:34 PM (yip5o)

165 Yes yes yes, but can the scarecrow parallel park, is the question.

Posted by: bluebell at February 20, 2021 08:34 PM (/669Q)

166

Back in 1988, Ted Danson warned us that in 10 years, the oceans would be dead. They'd be incapable of sustaining life, and shortly thereafter, mankind would be destroyed as well.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 20, 2021 08:35 PM (63Dwl)

167 Yeah they used to go all in with their "Greenhouse Effect". They even went so far on Mythbusters to prove how stupid Rethuglicans are by demonstrating that a glass box will indeed trap heat from the sun. Therefore Global Warming. #Science!!!!

You don't hear much about the Greenhouse Effect anymore likely because of all the freezing cold weather and snow. Also Greenland was supposed to be gone by 2015.

Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:36 PM (uEbPt)

168 Back in 1988, Ted Danson warned us that in 10 years, the oceans would be dead. They'd be incapable of sustaining life, and shortly thereafter, mankind would be destroyed as well.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 20, 2021 08:35 PM (63Dwl)

Back in 1970, Environmentalists were predicting widespread starvation and cannibalism by 1985.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:36 PM (eoQWY)

169 2020-Prince Charles gives us 18 months until irrevocable climate disaster.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 20, 2021 08:37 PM (yip5o)

170 We have a nice thing locally. Every Spring around the beginning of May they have "Spring Clean Up." One week they pick up all the crap you want to get rid of, except electronics, paint, etc., on one side of the river. Next week they do the other side of the river. Scavengers take a boat load of crap.

Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 08:37 PM (JKh2y)

171 and fire can't melt steel

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:37 PM (iTXRQ)

172 Back in 1970, Environmentalists were predicting widespread starvation and cannibalism by 1985.
Posted by: Oldcat

Love (of a theory) means never having to say you're sorry.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 20, 2021 08:37 PM (Rvt88)

173 166 Back in 1988, Ted Danson warned us that in 10 years, the oceans would be dead. They'd be incapable of sustaining life, and shortly thereafter, mankind would be destroyed as well.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
______________________________
Well. I guess that's it then. We're all officially dead and have been for 22 years. I had a good run.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 20, 2021 08:39 PM (Y2Ww7)

174 Rando East Texas Poster @ 155- Same reason some jackass wrapped a copper pipe with duct tape. Plumber just crawled out from under our house. Guy was bigger than me (I'm 6-2/180) and he and his partner (slightly smaller than me) went where I can't go. Hell they went where our outdoor tomcat Mobo can't go. They cleaned up a bit and said 'Rudd Plumbing will send you a bill.' I said 'Fair enough, brothers.

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 08:39 PM (gjvwR)

175 Back in 1970, Environmentalists were predicting widespread starvation and cannibalism by 1985.
Posted by: Oldcat


They were obviously expecting to turn the world commie sooner. Talk about self fulfilling...

Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:39 PM (uEbPt)

176 167 Yeah they used to go all in with their "Greenhouse Effect". They even went so far on Mythbusters to prove how stupid Rethuglicans are by demonstrating that a glass box will indeed trap heat from the sun. Therefore Global Warming. #Science!!!!

You don't hear much about the Greenhouse Effect anymore likely because of all the freezing cold weather and snow. Also Greenland was supposed to be gone by 2015.
Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:36 PM (uEbPt)


Remember all the signs at the Glacier National Park that they had to remove because the glaciers were supposed to be gone by that date.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 20, 2021 08:40 PM (LXiS2)

177 A post I used to put on various "Climate" blogs, which would always get me banned by all of the True Believers:

REPENT YE, O REPENT YE, YE EVILDOERS, OR YE SHALL ALL PERISH IN FLAME! AND TO PROVE YOUR WORTHINESS YE MUST GIVE ALL OF YOUR WORLDLY GOODS TO THESE, THE KEEPERS OF THE HOLY WRITINGS! REPENT YE, O REPENT YE OF YOUR EVIL WAYS!!!

(it's the same old game as always)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 20, 2021 08:40 PM (bxPTJ)

178 Remember all the signs at the Glacier National Park that they had to remove because the glaciers were supposed to be gone by that date.
Posted by: Buzzion at February 20, 2021 08:40 PM (LXiS2)

No LOL never heard about that.

Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:40 PM (uEbPt)

179 166 Back in 1988, Ted Danson warned us that in 10 years, the oceans would be dead. They'd be incapable of sustaining life, and shortly thereafter, mankind would be destroyed as well.

This from the guy who thought Whoopi Goldberg was attractive.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:40 PM (YqDXo)

180 As Angela Davis once told me, "Of course the Party believes in free speech. You're free to tell the truth. You're just not free to tell lies." With "the Party" of course, being the arbiter of such.
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Jay, I would like to hear more about this. I know you've mentioned her before. I'm curious as to the circumstances, if you're willing to tell us.

Posted by: bluebell at February 20, 2021 08:41 PM (/669Q)

181 97 >>>April 22, 1970. The first "Earth Day".
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:03 PM (iTXRQ)
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That was the first measurable event but there must have been much plate shifting preceding.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 08:05 PM (CZm2G)

The 100th anniversary of the birth of Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 20, 2021 08:41 PM (49Dnm)

182 and fire can't melt steel
Posted by: DB- just DB

No, but the aluminum in the jet airplanes that crashed into the WTC burned, and that did melt steel.

There were actual videos showing molten aluminum dripping out of the upper stories of the WTC. A lot of molten aluminum.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 08:41 PM (tjZg/)

183 AOC came in 2 years ago, so it is less than 3.

Nine is a good number, as Gore will be retired or dead by the time it rolls around and someone else resets the date.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:30 PM (eoQWY)
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Ah yes, of course. Seems like she's been around longer. She's packed a lot of stupidity into a short period of time. As this is a scientific thread, I'd propose calculating the millikohns per hour of stupidity emitted by AOC but I don't think our instruments can measure levels that high.

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 20, 2021 08:42 PM (kTRt4)

184 Things that occur outside a standard deviation or two are called "abnormal" because they are outside the center of the curve. She doesn't like these chats.
Posted by: LRob in TN at February 20, 2021 08:28 PM (jboH3)

Nick Taleb has written quite a bit like that, pointing out that when the entire world is being considered, things that have a 1 in a million chance of happening in fact happen several times every day.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 20, 2021 08:43 PM (bxPTJ)

185 Good evening, all. I was at vet all afternoon with my dog and missed the pet thread. So....I'd like to circle back and ask if anyone has their dog on a hydrolyzed protein food diet. My boy has had 3 seizures in the past 2 days and vet says food allergy is prime culprit. We have a prescription for this food and I was wondering if anyone else has experience with it for thier dog.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at February 20, 2021 08:44 PM (99Nt9)

186 No LOL never heard about that.
Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:40 PM (uEbPt)


Covered on this ONT

Posted by: Buzzion at February 20, 2021 08:45 PM (LXiS2)

187 It helps if I link it.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=389616

Posted by: Buzzion at February 20, 2021 08:45 PM (LXiS2)

188 Back when Cracked was still kind of funny and before they went full commie, I think I had the most downvoted comment ever. Like a net of 300 or so.

All I said was one line about how there was money in scientifically agreeing with Climate Change.

Naturally this is an indisputable fact, so I guess they had to downvote HARDER. As if doing so can make the truth a lie.

Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:46 PM (uEbPt)

189 Nick Taleb has written quite a bit like that, pointing out that when the entire world is being considered, things that have a 1 in a million chance of happening in fact happen several times every day.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 20, 2021 08:43 PM (bxPTJ)

I've heard it put like this: If your girl is one in a million, then there are a dozen or so in every major Metro area.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:46 PM (eoQWY)

190 I seem to have sprung a leak in my second chakra area...



Posted by: Algore at February 20, 2021 08:46 PM (sWM8x)

191 This from the guy who thought Whoopi Goldberg was attractive.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay

*runs for paper towels*

Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 08:47 PM (JKh2y)

192 The Soviets had some advanced physics and math in the '80s. I wish *we* could just put some mumbo jumbo about how wonderful diversity is at the start of every text book or science proposal but have actual real math, physics, chemistry etc.

I guess we are in our Lysenko period. It sucks.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 20, 2021 08:47 PM (Aashi)

193 Al Global Warming Gore has to be getting up there

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 08:48 PM (Cxk7w)

194 things that have a 1 in a million chance of happening in fact happen several times every day.
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Million to one shot, Doc. Million to one.

Posted by: Frank Costanza at February 20, 2021 08:48 PM (kTRt4)

195 193 age 72

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 08:48 PM (Cxk7w)

196 and fire can't melt steel
Posted by: DB- just DB

No, but the aluminum in the jet airplanes that crashed into the WTC burned, and that did melt steel.

There were actual videos showing molten aluminum dripping out of the upper stories of the WTC. A lot of molten aluminum.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 08:41 PM (tjZg/)

The fire didn't have to melt the steel, just soften it a little. Here's a test: stand on a table with metal legs, like a card table. I'll take a blowtorch and heat the legs. Tell me what's going to happen.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:48 PM (BMmaB)

197 Repent (or not) at your leisure, unbelievers. Your punishment will be the same.
This is what I was told by a VERY far removed relation that we see quite infrequently (who also scares hell out of us) given to some crazy rants.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2021 08:49 PM (KATBx)

198 Jay, I would like to hear more about this. I know you've mentioned her before. I'm curious as to the circumstances, if you're willing to tell us.
Posted by: bluebell at February 20, 2021 08:41 PM (/669Q)


I mentioned it recently over on David Thompson's (excellent) blog.

At the traditional spring crisis that required demonstrations, strikes, and shutting down the campus over something or other, Angela Davis proposed blocking a particular building to prevent a speaker from speaking.1/2

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:49 PM (YqDXo)

199 2/2
I (at the time a right-on leftist ninny) asked her about academic freedom. She replied, with scorn, "The Party doesn't care about the issue. The issue is merely a vehicle for agitation, to build a mass movement."

Nothing daunted - I mentioned that at the time I was a ninny, right?), I blurted out, "But don't you believe in free speech?"

She replied, "You're free to speak the truth. You're just not free to speak lies."

I was shocked by her cynicism, which shortly thereafter transformed me into the conservative curmudgeon I am today.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:49 PM (YqDXo)

200 Remember all the signs at the Glacier National Park that they had to remove because the glaciers were supposed to be gone by that date.
Posted by: Buzzion at February 20, 2021 08:40 PM (LXiS2)

No LOL never heard about that.
Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 08:40 PM (uEbPt)

https://tinyurl.com/4o32pbsg

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:49 PM (eoQWY)

201 The fire didn't have to melt the steel, just soften it a little. Here's a test: stand on a table with metal legs, like a card table. I'll take a blowtorch and heat the legs. Tell me what's going to happen.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:48 PM (BMmaB)
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Not soften so much as cause the crystal lattice to lose integrity.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 08:49 PM (GLv8N)

202 >and fire can't melt steel
Posted by: DB- just DB


this comment was mocking the 'truthers'

it isn't what I believe
just to clear that up

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 08:51 PM (iTXRQ)

203 Climate change bullshit has been going on a long time. Remember the ice age in the 70s? The ozone was always burning up, don't let your lawn mower run too long. Toilets have to cut back on water so much a turd won't flush. Plastic bags instead of paper to save the trees!

Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 08:51 PM (+ya+t)

204 Posted by: Russkilitlover at February 20, 2021 08:44 PM (99Nt9)

The first time I saw your nick I read it as "Russel Skillet Lover".

I thought to myself, "great, just great. The HQ now has it's own pansexual.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at February 20, 2021 08:52 PM (uxUoN)

205 Captain Obvious @ 201- They make wigs outta that crystal lattice, do they?

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 08:52 PM (gjvwR)

206 Back in 1970, Environmentalists were predicting widespread starvation and cannibalism by 1985.
Posted by: Oldcat

Well, I'm feeling a might peckish.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 08:52 PM (VVEnO)

207 The Soviets had some advanced physics and math in the '80s. I wish *we* could just put some mumbo jumbo about how wonderful diversity is at the start of every text book or science proposal but have actual real math, physics, chemistry etc.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 20, 2021 08:47 PM (Aashi)


On reading my kids' math book, I was shocked. It was a four-color exposition of wokehood. The marginal entries featured such items as the first black female astronaut to take a dump in space, etc. Occasionally, there was even some math.

It was awful. Why a math book needs to be published in four-colors is anyone's guess. I do not reach to the black female astronaut stories.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:53 PM (YqDXo)

208 Captain Obvious @ 201- They make wigs outta that crystal lattice, do they?
Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 08:52 PM (gjvwR)
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They might. They just might.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 08:53 PM (GLv8N)

209 Not soften so much as cause the crystal lattice to lose integrity.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 08:49 PM (GLv8N)

Layman speak. Not a metallurgist, but I know what happens if you heat steel under pressure.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:53 PM (BMmaB)

210 I remember when the greatest threat to human survival was "acid rain." Well, acid rain and alar, actually.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 20, 2021 08:54 PM (sWM8x)

211 I was shocked by her cynicism, which shortly thereafter transformed me into the conservative curmudgeon I am today.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:49 PM (YqDXo)
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Probably not the result she would want. But I had no idea you were an erstwhile leftist ninny! I mean, my working theory was that you two would exchange pleasantries at the jolly old local commie meetings but I didn't really think that was true.

Thank you. And I'll be darned.

Posted by: bluebell at February 20, 2021 08:54 PM (/669Q)

212 Climate change bullshit has been going on a long time. Remember the ice age in the 70s? The ozone was always burning up, don't let your lawn mower run too long. Toilets have to cut back on water so much a turd won't flush. Plastic bags instead of paper to save the trees!
Posted by: dartist at February 20, 2021 08:51 PM (+ya+t)

Oh yes, having lived through the bad winters of the 70s, to hear just five years later that we were all going to die of heat, while everyone and their grandmothers were moving to Florida and California taught me all I needed to know. The same stories were reprinted with "cold" crossed out and "heat" substituted. Oddly, the solution for both was the same - give me control over everything.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:54 PM (eoQWY)

213 I remember when the greatest threat to human survival was "acid rain." Well, acid rain and alar, actually.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 20, 2021 08:54 PM (sWM8x)

no Dioxin?

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:55 PM (eoQWY)

214 Well, acid rain and alar, actually.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 20, 2021 08:54 PM (sWM8x)

Our weapons are acid rain, alar, and dioxin. No, no, our weapons are acid rain, alar, dioxin, and waste from pig farms.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:55 PM (BMmaB)

215 Layman speak. Not a metallurgist, but I know what happens if you heat steel under pressure.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:53 PM (BMmaB)


Conversely, if you pour mercury into a mold which you then immerse in liquid nitrogen, you can use the resulting hammer to pound in nails.

Classic lecture demonstration.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:55 PM (YqDXo)

216 Oldcat, we must be the same age.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (BMmaB)

217 Layman speak. Not a metallurgist, but I know what happens if you heat steel under pressure.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:53 PM (BMmaB)
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For the Rosie O'Donnells of the world, you can just point them at a blacksmith. He gets that iron bar malleable enough to make a horseshoe by (gasp!) heating it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (GLv8N)

218 Oldcat, we must be the same age.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (BMmaB)

About a month from 60.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (eoQWY)

219 Aluminum melts rather easy, I don't have much left of a steel storm drain grate I use burning branches.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (Cxk7w)

220 I miss DDT.

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (gjvwR)

221 this comment was mocking the 'truthers'

it isn't what I believe
just to clear that up
Posted by: DB- just DB


Dood, I get it.
It was just an opportunity to inject something I found out.
The collapse of the WTC is a known fact.
Some people think it was a controlled implosion.
If you know ANYTHING about such things, they are complicated and need a lot of wiring and explosives to accomplish. Nobody saw anything like this going on prior to 9/11/01.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (tjZg/)

222 If I wanted to come up with a scheme to:

1. Further enrich the obscenely wealthy elites

2. Cede US sovereignty to globalist interests

3. Trample property rights of citizens

I couldn't come up with anything better than Climate Scientology

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (oAY8z)

223 About a month from 60.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (eoQWY)

About a month from 61.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (BMmaB)

224 Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at February 20, 2021 08:52 PM (uxUoN)

It's been a miscontrued nick every since I went with it. But I really do love Russian Lit!

Posted by: Russkilitlover at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (99Nt9)

225 Probably not the result she would want. But I had no idea you were an erstwhile leftist ninny! I mean, my working theory was that you two would exchange pleasantries at the jolly old local commie meetings but I didn't really think that was true.

Thank you. And I'll be darned.
Posted by: bluebell at February 20, 2021 08:54 PM (/669Q)


I started college quite young, and so was impressionable.

For a while. By age 21 I'd realized what leftism was all about.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:58 PM (YqDXo)

226 Well, acid rain and alar, actually.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 20, 2021 08:54 PM (sWM8x)

Our weapons are acid rain, alar, and dioxin. No, no, our weapons are acid rain, alar, dioxin, and waste from pig farms.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:55 PM (BMmaB)
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I liked those apples from Chile, I enjoyed licking the Alar off.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 08:58 PM (GLv8N)

227 220 I miss DDT.
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So do millions of dead Africans.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 20, 2021 08:58 PM (sWM8x)

228 I miss DDT.
Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (gjvwR)

So do the millions of those who died when pressure made India and other tropical countries quit using it with no substitutes. Or they would, if they weren't, you know, dead.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:58 PM (eoQWY)

229 I couldn't come up with anything better than Climate Scientology
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (oAY8z)


I call it "climastrology." The Faithful do not appreciate that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 08:58 PM (YqDXo)

230 About a month from 60.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (eoQWY)

About a month from 61.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (BMmaB)

You can call me "whippersnapper" then!

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:59 PM (eoQWY)

231 Layman speak. Not a metallurgist, but I know what happens if you heat steel under pressure.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon


Yes, it can deform under heat and pressure. Steel is an alloy, with a lot of "random" molecules of different elements mixed in with Iron. By heating it under pressure, it loses its strength and its amorphous mixture properties, and starts to crystalize (locally) and becomes weak and fails.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 08:59 PM (tjZg/)

232 If you know ANYTHING about such things, they are complicated and need a lot of wiring and explosives to accomplish. Nobody saw anything like this going on prior to 9/11/01.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (tjZg/)
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Particularly since you have to rip out the walls and insulation and expose the structural elements. Then wrap it in det cord and explosives.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 08:59 PM (GLv8N)

233 At my sister's her, my niece and me were looking a a math paper of my grand niece, all were dumb struck how they made simple addition and subtraction into a complicated process.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 08:59 PM (Cxk7w)

234 If you know ANYTHING about such things, they are complicated and need a lot of wiring and explosives to accomplish. Nobody saw anything like this going on prior to 9/11/01.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (tjZg/)

It was done on the third shift...

All the maintenance staff at the Vista were really CIA.

Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 09:00 PM (BgMrQ)

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 09:00 PM (h1jJh)

236 Alar was one of them Apple fairies. Big buddy of Tom Bombadill. Over at his house all the time.

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 09:00 PM (gjvwR)

237 I couldn't come up with anything better than Climate Scientology
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah

Hehe. heh heh hehe

Posted by: Dr. Anthony Fraudci at February 20, 2021 09:00 PM (QzkSJ)

238 About a month from 60.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (eoQWY)

About a month from 61.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (BMmaB)

You can call me "whippersnapper" then!
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:59 PM (eoQWY)
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Get offa my lawn, the two of you!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 09:00 PM (GLv8N)

239 I can't post fucking anything

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (h1jJh)

240 Get offa my lawn, the two of you!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 09:00 PM (GLv8N)

Child, Please...

Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (BgMrQ)

241 220 I miss DDT.
Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 08:57


Me too

Posted by: Jake Roberts at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (LXiS2)

242 About a month from 60.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:56 PM (eoQWY)

About a month from 61.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (BMmaB)

You can call me "whippersnapper" then!
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 08:59 PM (eoQWY)
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Get offa my lawn, the two of you!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 09:00 PM (GLv8N)

Ooh its the scary mean guy in the house on the corner! Run for it!!

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (eoQWY)

243 it's not just science; that's just a symptom of the broader undermining and rot of of the whole culture.
not sure if it's reversible.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (AKJpt)

244 fire can't melt steel........WRONG! Fire is exactly how we melt steel

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 09:02 PM (h1jJh)

245 239 I can't post fucking anything
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (h1jJh)


You posted that.

Posted by: Uzzion at February 20, 2021 09:02 PM (LXiS2)

246 Child, Please...
Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (BgMrQ)
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There's always a bigger fish...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 09:02 PM (GLv8N)

247 Particularly since you have to rip out the walls and insulation and expose the structural elements. Then wrap it in det cord and explosives.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea


Yes, exactly. This would not be some trivial excercise.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 09:03 PM (tjZg/)

248 it's not just science; that's just a symptom of the broader undermining and rot of of the whole culture.
not sure if it's reversible.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (AKJpt)

Eventually it has to be. You may fool the people but you never fool reality.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:03 PM (eoQWY)

249 I can't post fucking anything
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 20, 2021 09:01 PM (h1jJh)


You posted that.
Posted by: Uzzion


I think he meant pr0n

Posted by: Miklosian Guessifications LLC at February 20, 2021 09:03 PM (QzkSJ)

250 Space shuttle Columbia broke up on re-entry because one wing was damaged by a piece of foam insulation sloughing off the main tank during launch

I recall reading that environmentalists raised hell about the adhesive NASA was using to bond the foam to the tank- harmful to the environment, you see- so NASA went with another product


...that wasn't as effective as the previous adhesive

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:03 PM (iTXRQ)

251 Well wish I understood the science of why I have no reason to get up tomorrow but will in the 4am hour anyway.
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2021 09:03 PM (Cxk7w)

252 The Alar fiasco was especially egregious.

The horse-faced Meryl Streep was (inexplicably) invited to speak before Congress (as if she knew anything worth listening to).

The stupid bitch took the toxicological results - the association of Alar with cancers was something like 0.00001 (+-0.05)%, ignored the error bars, and multiplied 0.00001% by the population of the U.S., and gravely intoned to Congress (more retards there) that Alar was responsible for 5000 cancers/year.

It was an outrage.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:04 PM (YqDXo)

253 Eventually it has to be. You may fool the people but you never fool reality.
Posted by: Oldcat

And it's not nice to fool Mother Nature.

Scientific margarine ads taught me that.

Posted by: Miklos ain't foolin' at February 20, 2021 09:04 PM (QzkSJ)

254 Alar turned me into a newt.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (sWM8x)

255 Actually a 4-2-1 mix of methyl-parathion-DDT, the cotton farmers friend. You can thank me if you're wearing cotton. Especially if it was grown between 1960 and 1976.

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (gjvwR)

256 >I can't post fucking anything
Posted by: Lemmiwinks



try posting without fucking

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (iTXRQ)

257 The horse-faced Meryl Streep was (inexplicably) invited to speak before Congress (as if she knew anything worth listening to).

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She did that film about a farm, once. Hence, expert.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (GLv8N)

258 Actually a 4-2-1 mix of methyl-parathion-DDT, the cotton farmers friend. You can thank me if you're wearing cotton. Especially if it was grown between 1960 and 1976.
Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (gjvwR)

Is it the lesser of two weevils?

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (eoQWY)

259 It's been a miscontrued nick every since I went with it. But I really do love Russian Lit!
Posted by: Russkilitlover at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (99Nt9)

My joke fell flat. Like always.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (uxUoN)

260 256 >I can't post fucking anything
Posted by: Lemmiwinks

try posting without fucking
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (iTXRQ)

I'm wondering how many things he tried, to come up with that conclusion.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 20, 2021 09:07 PM (bxPTJ)

261 It's been a miscontrued nick every since I went with it. But I really do love Russian Lit!
Posted by: Russkilitlover at February 20, 2021 08:57 PM (99Nt9)

My joke fell flat. Like always.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80

It was a Potemkin joke.

Posted by: Miklosov, Slav Customer Service Centre of Happiness and Excellence at February 20, 2021 09:07 PM (QzkSJ)

262 >She did that film about a farm, once. Hence, expert.
Posted by: Captain Obvious


I think she's also an expert on nuclear stuff, because of another movie she was in

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:07 PM (iTXRQ)

263 The Soviets had some advanced physics and math in the '80s. I wish *we* could just put some mumbo jumbo about how wonderful diversity is at the start of every text book or science proposal but have actual real math, physics, chemistry etc.

I guess we are in our Lysenko period. It sucks.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable

There were some remarkably brilliant scientists in the Soviet Union (and in Russia today). One of their big problems was that their manufacturing base was somewhat retarded, and could not product the kind of hardware that they could dream up.
Lysenko appealed to Stalin, because his "theories" indicated that by changing behavior, you could change an individuals genetics, and "create" the new Soviet Man. What utter hogwash.
But in the end, the new Soviet Man was created by making people like cattle by modifying their behavior for generations. The New Soviet Man was very conforming, malleable, lazy and submissive. Not what they were trying to accomplish, but they did.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at February 20, 2021 09:07 PM (tjZg/)

264 Is it the lesser of two weevils?
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (eoQWY)
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He who would pun would pick a pocket.

Posted by: Stephen Maturin at February 20, 2021 09:07 PM (GLv8N)

265 Don't forget Nukular Winter, bitches.

Posted by: Carl Sagan at February 20, 2021 09:07 PM (sWM8x)

266 Is it the lesser of two weevils?
Posted by: Oldcat

You guys boll me over

Posted by: Miklos, jumping down and turning around at February 20, 2021 09:09 PM (QzkSJ)

267 Off surgeon/botanist sock

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 09:09 PM (GLv8N)

268 'Lookin for a home, jus lookin for a home...'
-some bollweevil

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 09:10 PM (gjvwR)

269 DDT and all the chlorinated hydrocarbons are a great example. Never hurt a human. Yet, thousands die every year from malaria cause they can't kill the damned mosquito.
Didn't I read some countries are using it regardless?

Posted by: MkY at February 20, 2021 09:10 PM (5hF5V)

270 It's been a miscontrued nick every since I went with it. But I really do love Russian Lit!
Posted by: Russkilitlover

Not enough hopelessness in your life?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 09:10 PM (VVEnO)

271 Is it the lesser of two weevils?
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:05 PM (eoQWY)
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He who would pun would pick a pocket.
Posted by: Stephen Maturin at February 20, 2021 09:07 PM (GLv8N)

I'd pick a peck of protected pockets for profit, had I the skill.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:10 PM (eoQWY)

272 Lysenko appealed to Stalin, because his "theories" indicated that by changing behavior, you could change an individuals genetics, and "create" the new Soviet Man.

The guiding principle behind the Community Reinvestment Act, and now essentially all other Democrat policies.

"We just need to spend more ..."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:11 PM (YqDXo)

273 Is it the lesser of two weevils?
Posted by: Oldcat


Something weevil this way comes...

Posted by: Ray Bradbury at February 20, 2021 09:11 PM (BgMrQ)

274 DDT and all the chlorinated hydrocarbons are a great example. Never hurt a human. Yet, thousands die every year from malaria cause they can't kill the damned mosquito.
Didn't I read some countries are using it regardless?
Posted by: MkY at February 20, 2021 09:10 PM (5hF5V)

I suppose if you gave it a new name you'd get about 20 years of use before the idiots caught on. Or name it after Greta Thunberg or Rachel Carson and use it forever.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:12 PM (eoQWY)

275 I'd pick a peck of protected pockets for profit, had I the skill.
Posted by: Oldcat

How many protected pockets could Oldcat pick if Oldcat could pick protected pockets for profit?

Posted by: Miklos, busy saying that three times real fast at February 20, 2021 09:12 PM (QzkSJ)

276 Love the O'Brian references.

Posted by: MkY at February 20, 2021 09:12 PM (5hF5V)

277 I'd pick a peck of protected pockets for profit, had I the skill.
Posted by: Oldcat

How many protected pockets could Oldcat pick if Oldcat could pick protected pockets for profit?
Posted by: Miklos, busy saying that three times real fast at February 20, 2021 09:12 PM (QzkSJ)

A plethora, predictably.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:13 PM (eoQWY)

278 There were some remarkably brilliant scientists in the Soviet Union (and in Russia today). One of their big problems was that their manufacturing base was somewhat retarded, and could not product the kind of hardware that they could dream up.

This.
They have, and do, turn out scientists the way we crank it lawyers and communication majors.
Oh...who's rockets do we need to use to get to the space statin?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 20, 2021 09:14 PM (axyOa)

279 Heh. Heh-heh. Oldcat said "Rachel Carson."

Posted by: Beavis at February 20, 2021 09:15 PM (sWM8x)

280 Oh...who's rockets do we need to use to get to the space statin?
Posted by: Diogenes at February 20, 2021 09:14 PM (axyOa)

Are your lipids in need of a lift?

Posted by: Ray Bradbury at February 20, 2021 09:15 PM (BgMrQ)

281 A plethora, predictably.
Posted by: Oldcat

Or a plenitude.

Posted by: Miklos, pathetically persistent at February 20, 2021 09:15 PM (QzkSJ)

282 Evening Horde.....Totally unsciency, and OT, but since there is no movie thread here it goes:

Collateral is the best Tom Cruise movie. Why you ask? Because I think you see the real Tom here. He lets his true inner self out for a little stroll around LA. A little tap dance of murder and mayhem. Vincent / Tom = 1. SCIENCE!

Besides, Michael Mann films a hell of a good movie. The scenes of LA at night, with the lights of the city creating a permanent glow that rivals the sun in some aspects.

That is all.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 20, 2021 09:15 PM (jvt6t)

283 Stoopid spell correct

Posted by: Diogenes at February 20, 2021 09:16 PM (axyOa)

284 Way-ull, I've got chili simmering on the stove, cold beer in the fridge and it's about time to have dinner and throw in a movie. Someone upthread mentioned John Wayne, so I'm thinking it'll be Rio Bravo.

Ciao, bambini. Might be back for the ONT.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 20, 2021 09:17 PM (GLv8N)

285 Cruise... do Scientologists do drugs, or do druggies become Scientologists?

Posted by: MkY at February 20, 2021 09:17 PM (5hF5V)

286 /off Sci-Fi author sock

Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 09:17 PM (BgMrQ)

287 John Kerry has five years left.

Posted by: klaftern at February 20, 2021 09:18 PM (RuIsu)

288 I tell em all the time 'The drugs didn't make you crazy, you were crazy to take the drugs.' Either way, do what I tell you to do.'

Posted by: Eromero at February 20, 2021 09:19 PM (gjvwR)

289 LOL, Washington Post headline.

Biden's low key response to storm wins Praise.

/facepalm.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 09:20 PM (oHd/0)

290 Oooh, I found women's Curling online.

Scott's Tournament of Hearts

Oh wait...Scotties ToH.

Jeebus, fucking around with tournament names again.

JUST.STOP.

Posted by: browndog at February 20, 2021 09:20 PM (BgMrQ)

291 >Biden's low key response to storm wins Praise.


of course it does

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:21 PM (iTXRQ)

292 She blinded me with science. My contribution.;;https://vimeo.com/70051022

Posted by: Javems at February 20, 2021 09:21 PM (8SSHh)

293 On DDT -

I just looked it up, and DDT is still produced by three countries: India, China, North Korea.

Looks like it used to be used a lot in Sub Saharan Africa, but western pressure cut it to about 0 in recent years. I didn't read ahead to see what the malaria death rates did during this time, but given the way India was hit in the first cutoff in the 70s or so I doubt it was a good thing.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:21 PM (eoQWY)

294 Here's the tell on leftist crap:

In an oral exam, if the candidate has the goods re a question, he'll bore your balls off with details until you have to shut him up.

OTOH, if he foofs off the question ("well, we all know ...") and tries to move on, as an examiner, you KNOW there's blood in the water, he's full of shit, and knows nothing about this at all, but won't admit it, so you bore in.

If he admitted he didn't know the answer, fair enough. You move on.Your job was to ascertain the limits of his knowledge. But if he tries to bullshit you, you drill down and give him an extended procto exam.

Now - which case obtains with the leftists, re global warming, electoral fraud, etc.?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:21 PM (YqDXo)

295 Wuwt has been having a field day with the NOAA midrange forecasts (Jan -Mar 2021) vs actual...

The main dig being that if they cannot look 1-3 months ahead (having it exactly Wrong, to be precise) what value do the 100 year forecasts have?

The answer, of course, is fear mongering. That's their value. It's not about Science, but control and power, and a lot of wetting of the beaks.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 20, 2021 09:22 PM (F0YaR)

296 Jak - Collateral is a solid movie. Tom Cruise may be a nut-bar in real life, but I will say he makes for a decent action movie star (despite being a near-hobbit). And Michael Mann was the perfect director for that movie.

Posted by: PabloD, boop/bop/beep at February 20, 2021 09:22 PM (tA0ey)

297 Biden's low key response to storm wins Praise.

-
From the slobbering sycophants of the MSM.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 09:23 PM (VVEnO)

298 "291 >Biden's low key response to storm wins Praise.
of course it does
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:21 PM (iTXRQ) "

Unexpectedly !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 20, 2021 09:24 PM (AKJpt)

299
LOL, Washington Post headline.

Biden's low key response to storm wins Praise.

/facepalm.
Posted by: Romeo13


I had Jell-O today

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 20, 2021 09:25 PM (63Dwl)

300 Looks like it used to be used a lot in Sub Saharan Africa, but western pressure cut it to about 0 in recent years. I didn't read ahead to see what the malaria death rates did during this time, but given the way India was hit in the first cutoff in the 70s or so I doubt it was a good thing.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:21 PM (eoQWY)

Read a little more, and they beat around the bush when saying that every time they cut out DDT in the past up to 2009 death rates skyrocketed because of some 'unanticipated' reason or 'new type' of vector. The last decade or so has no results published, as presumably they are able to bribe or bully the governments there to ignore the deaths.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:25 PM (eoQWY)

301 269 DDT and all the chlorinated hydrocarbons are a great example. Never hurt a human. Yet, thousands die every year from malaria cause they can't kill the damned mosquito.
--------------

You could buy sprayers, they looked like a bicycle pump with a can on the end, that would be filled with DDT/Raid or Gulf Spray.

The better sprayers would hold pressure so you could pump them and the would keep spraying.
Wonderful science.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 09:26 PM (CZm2G)

302 Now - which case obtains with the leftists, re global warming, electoral fraud, etc.?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Obviously you've been there. I was at an annual meeting with a friend, who is a plant pathologist. Pretty narrow range of specialty. Yet he tried to tell me he believed in Global Warming because he was a scientist.
We don't speak anymore. I was rude and condescending.
Stepping outside your field of expertise is supposed to be limited to lawyers and doctors, not anyone else.

Posted by: MkY at February 20, 2021 09:26 PM (5hF5V)

303 ignoring deaths is kinda who they are, what they do, innit ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 20, 2021 09:27 PM (AKJpt)

304 Biden's low key response to storm wins Praise.

-
From the slobbering sycophants of the MSM.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 20, 2021 09:23 PM (VVEnO)

The tragedy is how much they suck at even that.

A good chunk of what we know of the late Roman Empire in the west is because of the fawning suckup speeches of this or that senator about whatever Emperor or Strongman was in charge. They were long, flowery, elegant by the views of the time.

Bah!

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:27 PM (eoQWY)

305 Biden's stomping on puppies wins praise

How WaPo would cover such a thing.

Posted by: zmdavid at February 20, 2021 09:28 PM (xqRaG)

306 ignoring deaths is kinda who they are, what they do, innit ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 20, 2021 09:27 PM (AKJpt)

Causing, reveling, and ignoring. The trifecta.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:28 PM (eoQWY)

307 About a month from 60.
Posted by: Oldcat

Got me beat by 6 mos.

Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 09:28 PM (JKh2y)

308 Braenyard, all over these United States, mist sprayers were used in urban areas to control the European Elm Bark Beetle, the vector of the Dutch Elm disease. When DDT was outlawed, we lost the American elms... all across America.

Posted by: MkY at February 20, 2021 09:29 PM (5hF5V)

309 hell, we've already seen 'Biden playing video games with his granddaughter wins praise'

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:29 PM (iTXRQ)

310 About a month from 60.
Posted by: Oldcat

Got me beat by 6 mos.
Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 09:28 PM (JKh2y)

Now I get to say whippersnapper...

WHIPPERSNAPPER!

Posted by: Oldcat at February 20, 2021 09:29 PM (eoQWY)

311 304
If we're late west Roman Empire, we are due an Attila.

Posted by: jmel at February 20, 2021 09:29 PM (bVhJi)

312 Biden Eating Pudding Wins Praise

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:30 PM (iTXRQ)

313 The better sprayers would hold pressure so you could pump them and the would keep spraying.
Wonderful science.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog

I vaguely remember as a kid the planes spraying the neighborhood with shit to get rid of sceeters.

Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 09:31 PM (JKh2y)

314 nobody noods anymore?

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 20, 2021 09:32 PM (iTXRQ)

315 Australian press on Biden
https://tinyurl.com/ck1vjcsv

Posted by: MkY at February 20, 2021 09:32 PM (5hF5V)

316 Obviously you've been there. I was at an annual meeting with a friend, who is a plant pathologist. Pretty narrow range of specialty. Yet he tried to tell me he believed in Global Warming because he was a scientist.

I take a Socratic line, and pose questions about the basic physics involved.

That usually ends the discussion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:32 PM (YqDXo)

317 https://tinyurl.com/2sjej96u

I'll leave this here, for the horde to digest.

Virologist who says Covid is a bad flu.

Kind of like the actual total Death numbers for the US.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 09:33 PM (oHd/0)

318 Biden's crayon and paste collection wins praise.

Posted by: The MFM at February 20, 2021 09:33 PM (W4eKo)

319
Now - which case obtains with the leftists, re global warming, electoral fraud, etc.?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:21 PM (YqDXo)
------------------

My truth trumps all, H8er!

Posted by: Leftist crying at a job interview at February 20, 2021 09:34 PM (2SdPm)

320 I vaguely remember as a kid the planes spraying the neighborhood with shit to get rid of sceeters.
Posted by: Infidel at February 20, 2021 09:31 PM (JKh2y)

We used to ride bicycles behind the trucks.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 20, 2021 09:34 PM (BMmaB)

321 That usually ends the discussion.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:32 PM (YqDXo)

----------

That method is usually good for a flounce.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 20, 2021 09:34 PM (2SdPm)

322 I take a Socratic line, and pose questions about the basic physics involved.

That usually ends the discussion.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:32 PM (YqDXo)

I went to US Navy's Nuclear Power School.

The Earth, like a damn Nuc reactor, is a closed heat engine.

so much out, so much in. What they call 'global warming' isn't. It's a short term increase in AIR temp near the earth's surface.

But to basic thermodynamics, this will self correct.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 09:36 PM (oHd/0)

323 Great job, as per usual, Mr. Guevara.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 20, 2021 09:36 PM (2SdPm)

324 I don't know shit about Latin so I always look up the word or phrase. I consider this part of my post graduate education.

From the posting: Gaia vobiscum!

From the Intertubes: The first explanation was offered by Cicero, who believed that the normal word order of cum nobis (with us) would sound too much like cunno bis (twice in the cunt)...

Sublime shit here: Cumvobis Climate Change Assholes! Give me oil (in the form of gas in a 5.0L V or give me death!

Posted by: AntiMarxProLennon at February 20, 2021 09:36 PM (DVin+)

325 323 Great job, as per usual, Mr. Guevara.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 20, 2021 09:36 PM (2SdPm)


Thanks so much! I appreciate it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:38 PM (YqDXo)

326 180 As Angela Davis once told me, "Of course the Party believes in free speech. You're free to tell the truth. You're just not free to tell lies." With "the Party" of course, being the arbiter of such.
-------

Jay, I would like to hear more about this. I know you've mentioned her before. I'm curious as to the circumstances, if you're willing to tell us.
Posted by: bluebell at February 20, 2021 08:41 PM (/669Q)

Doesn't matter what you see
Or into it what you read
You can do it your own way
If it's done just how I say

- Metallica, "Eye of the Beholder"

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 20, 2021 09:38 PM (49Dnm)

327 only latin I know is gabba gabba hey.

Posted by: mr wizard at February 20, 2021 09:38 PM (g741k)

328 I don't know shit about Latin so I always look up the word or phrase. I consider this part of my post graduate education.

From the posting: Gaia vobiscum!


A perversion (?) of the now long-forgotten Latin Mass.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 20, 2021 09:38 PM (YqDXo)

329 Fake Biden "Wins Praise."

I notice they perfected this formulation under Trump.

So Trump could do something that was 99% popular and awesome but by headlining an article and populating it with a few muh tweets, they could say Trump "Draws Criticism".

And still be telling the truth, for as much as they really care about that. But mostly it's just a lesson in how to set a Narrative.

Posted by: ... at February 20, 2021 09:44 PM (uEbPt)

330 >>>The Earth, like a damn Nuc reactor, is a closed heat engine.

so much out, so much in. What they call 'global warming' isn't. It's a short term increase in AIR temp near the earth's surface.

But to basic thermodynamics, this will self correct.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2021 09:36 PM (oHd/0)
---------------

You breathe in you breath out
Sun comes up sun goes down
Moon comes out all the d.... oh, wait.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 20, 2021 09:49 PM (CZm2G)

331 nice thread, good to see JayG do some real science perspectives, sorry I missed it. For real, I am doing shelving ... in my basement. Finally reclaiming some space, and like Ace ... even though I spent a year decades ago installing shelving and lockers, lots of concrete anchors, my Makita hammer drill did not do the job. I ordered a Bosch rotary hammer and that worked better on the ancient concrete in my basement. ... I'll have to review the thread, but Bluebell's comment on Jay the ninny caught my eye ... wow, Jay was at one point a "leftist ninny" ... but that was before turning 21 ... yes, we all got sucked in to much evil at that age ... I had DeMolay and BoyScouts helping me ... still got caught up in some of the leftist diatribe I suppose ... today's youth get a lot more of an onslaught of indoctrination ...

Posted by: illinwek at February 20, 2021 10:02 PM (Cus5s)

332 Appears we ran in the same circles. Some of you old hippies and former leftists might like The New Americanist blog. It is populated by similar minds.

Posted by: jack at February 20, 2021 10:41 PM (5zZ1Q)

333 rhomboid at February 20, 2021 07:53 PM
You had some thoughtful teachers, sounds like.

Posted by: KT at February 20, 2021 10:48 PM (BVQ+1)

334 Russkilitlover at February 20, 2021 08:44 PM
I have no experience with hydrolyzed protein dog food, but proteins are your typical allergens, so it makes sense to break them down.

I don't get seizures, but I get migraines from some foods, especially corn. Migraines and some seizures have some relationship.

Can't eat more than a little egg. Can't have rice or pineapple 2 days in a row. I have a harder time with whole wheat than white flour, especially if repeated too soon.

Adding rice to dog food may be a temporary fix for some animals. I wonder about grains for dogs in general.

Posted by: KT at February 20, 2021 11:20 PM (BVQ+1)

335 "Can't eat more than a little egg. Can't have rice or pineapple 2 days in
a row. I have a harder time with whole wheat than white flour,
especially if repeated too soon."

wow KT ... hope you find the right food solutions ... makes my dietary life seem so trouble free. Your food travails must be part of why you are so competent on growing the "right foods". Best wishes for your healthy endeavors.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 20, 2021 11:36 PM (Cus5s)

336 Jay, one thing that really bothers me about science and COVID is the way clinical studies have been designed. I can understand a "throw the pasta at the wall and see what sticks" approach in less-developed countries. I don't understand the unwillingness to sift ANY useful data from their results. And I don't understand the rejection of the clear data on vitamin D deficiency.

And when those "gold standard" studies of cheap, known drugs are designed, why can't they at least include one treatment arm that reflects how doctors in the field report using the drug successfully?

The Lancet study on HCQ used it alone, on seriously ill patients, and some of the data was found to be falsified. As in they invented patients. No randomized study reflected the way HCQ was being used in the field.

Posted by: KT at February 20, 2021 11:41 PM (BVQ+1)

337 NOW the Oxford ivermectin trial "early treatment" trial skips a
dose-finding function, while allowing patients to enter both early and
late in the disease, messing up the data. Activists are objecting to
the placebo arm. (Monoclonal antibodies are a viable alternative
treatment now, for example, though much more expensive).

I don't think the FDA I remember would have approved the trial design.



Posted by: KT at February 20, 2021 11:42 PM (BVQ+1)

338 Incidentally,
while you may have a hard time getting a prescription for ivermectin
for prophylaxis or early treatment (when it does the most good) I have
heard from locals that it is now being used in hospitals.

Data
on fluvoxamine is being suppressed on social media and among health care professionals even though a phase 3
trial, co-sponsored by the NIH, is underway. Phase 2 results were
terrific. I think that if the trial were better described and
publicized, it would have been easier to attract willing patients. It
is an at-home study.

Posted by: KT at February 20, 2021 11:44 PM (BVQ+1)

339 Irish.

Posted by: Edward I Longshanks at February 21, 2021 12:31 AM (fLVm1)

340 If we're late west Roman Empire, we are due an Attila.
Posted by: jmel at February 20, 2021 09:29 PM (bVhJi)

---------

Odoacer

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 21, 2021 12:33 AM (fLVm1)

341 Hello

Hellooo

Hellooooooo

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 21, 2021 12:39 AM (fLVm1)

342 *pokes thread with stick*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 21, 2021 12:39 AM (fLVm1)

343 In the long run the woke will die out due to their inability to cope with the universe at large.

Sadly they'll be able to do a lot of damage to others while doing so.
Posted by: jakee308.com


Yeah, that last part is the problem. They can remain irrational and destructive longer than you or I have time left on this mudball. And that could mean your kids' and grandkids' lives dealing with it.

Modern humans are supposedly 500k years old with only about 8000 years of recorded history. That means the bulk of 'our' existence as sentient, rational beings could have been filled with abject misery and evil.

Again. There's no comfort in 'eventually.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 21, 2021 12:54 AM (QjGTg)

344 illiniwek at February 20, 2021 11:36 PM

Thanks. I do OK most of the time. Have to medicate right away if I feel a migraine coming on. Must include something that affects the gut response.

I read labels to avoid corn, etc. Restaurants are hard. I can pre-medicate with Pepcid, though. Lunch works better than dinner because I tend to get migraines in the middle of the night.

Posted by: KT at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (BVQ+1)

345 Romeo13's poet#9: Biden on day ONE suspended that law that requires regulations to undergo a cost benefit analysis. We are, therefore, DOOMED

Posted by: margorodden at February 21, 2021 01:22 PM (4en/C)

346 I have two mantras re:education.

1) The "School of Education" in any university is the deserved butt of jokes. Lowest SAT scores, highest GPAs.

2) If the discipline has the word "science" in the description, there's no science in the contect. If the discipline has the word "studies" in the description, no study is required.

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Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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