Mid-Morning Art Thread

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Christ At The Column
Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 This is going to be painful.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2021 09:30 AM (U2p+3)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2021 09:31 AM (arJlL)

3 "Caravaggio was a hack."
-Rothko

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 09:31 AM (LvTSG)

4 Jesus had quite the workout program huh?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 23, 2021 09:31 AM (9d4A3)

5 Where's the Easter Bunny?

Posted by: Chick at February 23, 2021 09:31 AM (pa4ej)

6 Looks like he hit the gym a lot. Nice abs and pecs.

Posted by: Mrs. Hypocrisy at February 23, 2021 09:31 AM (gl8jM)

7 There is an insanely bright light outside. I don't know what it is, but it is reflecting off of all the water on the ground and making it really hard to see.
All I know is it wasn't here yesterday.
Good morning roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 23, 2021 09:31 AM (CcOog)

8 Very nice!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2021 09:32 AM (yrol0)

9 Image is not diverse enough, will not survive the coming government approved religious standards.

Posted by: Bete at February 23, 2021 09:32 AM (Ojki1)

10 Jesus be yoked yo

Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2021 09:32 AM (Ef23Y)

11 Instantly recognizable as Carvaggio.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 23, 2021 09:32 AM (lSZIs)

12 Didn't we see this one before?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 09:33 AM (Zm+LZ)

13 I could not bring myself to make a snarky comment on this painting. I remain in awe of the skill, perception to detail, and theme of this painting!

Good job Mike!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 09:33 AM (87oRe)

14 Now, I think this guy has a real future !

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 09:33 AM (6iURM)

15 11 Instantly recognizable as Carvaggio.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 23, 2021 09:32 AM (lSZIs)


That's Jesus says so right in the title duh

Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2021 09:34 AM (Ef23Y)

16 I think that is on the walk in Jerusalem. I guess I should have paid more attention.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2021 09:34 AM (yrol0)

17 This is just before Jesus took the wheel.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 23, 2021 09:34 AM (V7LOe)

18 Jesus Christ, you are buff !!

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 09:35 AM (6iURM)

19 about to be whipped, right?

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 23, 2021 09:35 AM (nUhF0)

20 Doubt Hayes Carl could kick this Jesus ass!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2021 09:35 AM (yrol0)

21 14 Now, I think this guy has a real future !
Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 09:33 AM (6iURM)

Dude, it's just one of the skillz you learn when becoming a ninja!

Posted by: Mikey, A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle at February 23, 2021 09:35 AM (Ojki1)

22 Jesus had quite the workout program huh?


Well, if you could raise the dead and turn water into wine, why wouldn't you hive yourself a nice 6-pack.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 23, 2021 09:35 AM (V7LOe)

23 Dangit, now I have Allman Brothers stuck in my head.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 09:36 AM (xfb67)

24 They had Planet Fitness back then?

Posted by: dantesed at February 23, 2021 09:36 AM (88xKn)

25 about to be whipped, right?

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 23, 2021 09:35 AM (nUhF0)

Flayed. Scourged.

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2021 09:37 AM (AwYPR)

26 They had Planet Fitness back then?
Posted by: dantesed at February 23, 2021 09:36 AM (88xKn)

He used the Holy AbRoller

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (V7LOe)

27 Very Nice. I love well executed religious paintings.

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (gmo/4)

28 Not OT: Aussie scientists discover a 17,300-year-old painting of a kangaroo, the country's oldest known rock art.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (d6he9)

29 The negative space in the painting is significant and the light on Jesus that makes him stand out against the background.

Posted by: Ziba at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (S1hrL)

30 I'm telling you

all the working out wont save your ass

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (6iURM)

31 26 They had Planet Fitness back then?
Posted by: dantesed at February 23, 2021 09:36 AM (88xKn)

He used the Holy AbRoller
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (V7LOe)

==========

Developed a couple hundred years before the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 09:39 AM (LvTSG)

32 Was this before or after Pontius Pilate called him a homo.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 09:39 AM (xfb67)

33 100 comment rule. [CBD]

Posted by: the outer darkness at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (91vdI)

34 Not OT: Aussie scientists discover a 17,300-year-old painting of a kangaroo, the country's oldest known rock art.
Posted by: andycanuck

Keith Richards on guitar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (VVEnO)

35 28 Not OT: Aussie scientists discover a 17,300-year-old painting of a kangaroo, the country's oldest known rock art.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (d6he9)

ahem

Posted by: Uluru at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (6iURM)

36 Crucify him! Crucify him!

Posted by: all of we sinners at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (d6he9)

37 Caravaggio is creating a very dynamic work by splaying the figures in a fan-like pattern anchored on a point off-center right. Each figure also seems to be looking at at fixed point off-frame left. This creates a visual tension--the action moves right but the figures want the eye to move left. There's also a nice oval created by the figures' eyes and the arm of the man on the right. The arc of the eye line loops down and connects with the arm, which leads the eye back over to the torso of Christ, up his body and back at his face. This loop goes round and round, allowing the eye to take in the details of the painting. The arcs and loops could also mimic the motion of the whip that during Christ's Flagellation.

Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (OyyDO)

38 Timely.

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (yQpMk)

39 Nude Art

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:41 AM (yQpMk)

40 For me.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2021 09:41 AM (45fpk)

41 Caravaggio is creating a very dynamic work by splaying the figures in a fan-like pattern anchored on a point off-center right. Each figure also seems to be looking at at fixed point off-frame left. This creates a visual tension--the action moves right but the figures want the eye to move left. There's also a nice oval created by the figures' eyes and the arm of the man on the right. The arc of the eye line loops down and connects with the arm, which leads the eye back over to the torso of Christ, up his body and back at his face. This loop goes round and round, allowing the eye to take in the details of the painting. The arcs and loops could also mimic the motion of the whip that during Christ's Flagellation.
Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (OyyDO)


My thoughts exactly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2021 09:41 AM (lPl8I)

42 dammit

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:41 AM (yQpMk)

43 Christ looks more Italian than Jewish in this one.

Could be racist or appropriation, never sure anymore.
heck i'm sure its both

Posted by: McCool at February 23, 2021 09:41 AM (BqBIh)

44 43 Christ looks more Italian than Jewish in this one.

Could be racist or appropriation, never sure anymore.
heck i'm sure its both
Posted by: McCool at February 23, 2021 09:41 AM (BqBIh)

======

Well, the model was probably Italian.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (LvTSG)

45 thanks Kris

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (nUhF0)

46 2 wite.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (vD+8F)

47 They had Planet Fitness back then?
Posted by: dantesed at February 23, 2021 09:36 AM (88xKn)

He used the Holy AbRoller
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (V7LOe)

==========

Developed a couple hundred years before the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets


Original Crossfit.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Time to sign on with the Crimson Permanent Assurance at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (OUMaO)

48 Why are the other 2 guys dressed like pirates? Was the clothing contemporary to Caravaggio's time?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (xfb67)

49 about to be whipped, right?

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 23, 2021 09:35 AM (nUhF0)

Gibson did an excellent job w/this scene in "The Passion..." if a directors job is to evoke a reaction in the viewer. I'm a grown-ass man...and I wept.

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (AwYPR)

50 Caravaggio is creating a very dynamic work by splaying the figures in a fan-like pattern anchored on a point off-center right. Each figure also seems to be looking at at fixed point off-frame left. This creates a visual tension--the action moves right but the figures want the eye to move left. There's also a nice oval created by the figures' eyes and the arm of the man on the right. The arc of the eye line loops down and connects with the arm, which leads the eye back over to the torso of Christ, up his body and back at his face. This loop goes round and round, allowing the eye to take in the details of the painting. The arcs and loops could also mimic the motion of the whip that during Christ's Flagellation.
Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (OyyDO)

Ditto!

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (P4Pk9)

51 43 Christ looks more Italian than Jewish in this one.

they always said he could pass

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (6iURM)

52
Well, if you could raise the dead and turn water into wine, why wouldn't you hive yourself a nice 6-pack.
==
I've got a nine pack. And I'm awesome.

Posted by: Lego Batman at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (Gvba8)

53 43 Christ looks more Italian than Jewish in this one.

Could be racist or appropriation, never sure anymore.
heck i'm sure its both
Posted by: McCool at February 23, 2021 09:41 AM (BqBIh)

Frequently Christ is portrayed like a local in art.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (Zm+LZ)

54 what's the red area bottom left?

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (nUhF0)

55 Dangit, now I have Allman Brothers stuck in my head.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 09:36 AM (xfb67)


Sweet Melissa?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2021 09:43 AM (lPl8I)

56 I predict...
33 [100 comment rule CBD]
Posted by: the outer darkness at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (91vdI)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 09:43 AM (d6he9)

57 related, - there a twitter idiot who thinks that people in Jesus-land will be disappointed to see what Jesus probably looked like as done with computer modelling.

https://tinyurl.com/s82fm3ec

Posted by: McCool at February 23, 2021 09:43 AM (BqBIh)

58 You can tell Jesus is thinking... one day Andrew Lloyd Weber will write a rock opera about this

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 23, 2021 09:44 AM (9d4A3)

59 Original Crossfit.

ISWYDT

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:44 AM (yQpMk)

60 what's the red area bottom left?

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 23, 2021 09:42 AM (nUhF0)

His robe, I think.

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2021 09:44 AM (gmo/4)

61 56 I predict...
33 [100 comment rule CBD]
Posted by: the outer darkness at February 23, 2021 09:40 AM (91vdI)
Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 09:43 AM (d6he9)

thread is outta of control

I say no

Posted by: 8 BALL at February 23, 2021 09:45 AM (6iURM)

62 Caravaggio is creating a very dynamic work by splaying the figures in a
fan-like pattern anchored on a point off-center right. Each figure also
seems to be looking at at fixed point off-frame left. This creates a
visual tension--the action moves right but the figures want the eye to
move left. There's also a nice oval created by the figures' eyes and the
arm of the man on the right. The arc of the eye line loops down and
connects with the arm, which leads the eye back over to the torso of
Christ, up his body and back at his face. This loop goes round and
round, allowing the eye to take in the details of the painting. The arcs
and loops could also mimic the motion of the whip that during Christ's
Flagellation.

Posted by: amy schumer at February 23, 2021 09:45 AM (d6he9)

63 57 related, - there a twitter idiot who thinks that people in Jesus-land will be disappointed to see what Jesus probably looked like as done with computer modelling.

https://tinyurl.com/s82fm3ec

Posted by: McCool at February 23, 2021 09:43 AM (BqBIh)

Just like they were disappointed when computer modeling predicted a warm winter. I'm not kidding, NOAA predicted a warm winter.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 09:45 AM (xfb67)

64 They had Planet Fitness back then?
Posted by: dantesed at February 23, 2021 09:36 AM (88xKn)

He used the Holy AbRoller
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (V7LOe)

Walking on the water is mad aerobic.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 09:45 AM (Bmy3R)

65 Very Appropriate during this time of Lent.
Tuesday is also the day of the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Rosary. The 2nd Sorrowful mystery is the Scourging at the Pillar.
CBD nailed it today.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2021 09:46 AM (NpAcC)

66 Why would anyone be surprised/disappointed that Jesus looked like a ME Jew? I don't get people like the twatter guy.

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2021 09:46 AM (gmo/4)

67 He had no fun happy paintings , did he?

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2021 09:46 AM (W8e/N)

68 Just read this section in John this morning. Nice visual to go with the text.

I like how Christ "looks" like He's trying to wriggle away from the whip's blows, and the whipper is pulling on His hair to bring Him back. Although Jesus is there because He wanted to be, His natural instinct is to avoid the pain and torture. It makes for a very human moment.

Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 09:47 AM (OyyDO)

69 related, - there a twitter idiot who thinks that people in Jesus-land will be disappointed to see what Jesus probably looked like as done with computer modelling.

https://tinyurl.com/s82fm3ec
Posted by: McCool

Bullshit squared.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 09:47 AM (VVEnO)

70 related, - there a twitter idiot who thinks that people in Jesus-land will be disappointed to see what Jesus probably looked like as done with computer modelling.



They have strange ideas about us because they don't even know any Christians.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:47 AM (yQpMk)

71 I've always liked Caravaggio and his use of light and shadow and relief.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (UZVEt)

72 Would hang. With the other Sorrowful Mysteries.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (2BZBZ)

73 The man in the center holding the whip seems to be quite distressed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (yrol0)

74 In my private chapel.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (2BZBZ)

75 Why is anyone surprised Jesus had abs? He was a carpenter, did some work, didn't eat himself fat, and was frickin' Jesus, man!

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (W+kMI)

76 Original Crossfit.
Posted by: Brother Tim

*spitlol*

that's 10 Hail Marys, young man!

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (nUhF0)

77 related, - there a twitter idiot who thinks that people in Jesus-land will be disappointed to see what Jesus probably looked like as done with computer modelling fiction.

That's all it is, computer generated fiction.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (xfb67)

78 It's weird, but I've never really worried very much about what Jesus looked like.

It's almost like I'm not obsessed with skin color as the basis of my understanding of people.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 09:49 AM (yK9py)

79 Jesus would more likely have a had a bowl cut, or a Jewfro.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:49 AM (yQpMk)

80 66: Yeah. I don't think people of faith care one whit whether Jesus looked one way, or another. Artist's depictions of Jesus -- which vary throughout the world -- have more to say about that particular artist / culture than anything else.

The twitter guy's comment is mean-spirited, and based on the assumption that people of faith are racists who wouldn't follow Jesus if it were proven that he didn't look like them.

Posted by: Revenant at February 23, 2021 09:49 AM (Gcdtg)

81 The two guards don't seem enthusiastic to be involved in this endeavor.

Posted by: Moonbeam at February 23, 2021 09:49 AM (qe5CM)

82 36 Crucify him! Crucify him!
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Nancy and Chucky would've been in the crowd.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 09:50 AM (W+kMI)

83 100 comment rule. [CBD]

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2021 09:50 AM (/MaDp)

84 Jesus always has amazing abs.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (FMoYW)

85 I believe it was C. S. Lewis who said that when you see Jesus, you will realize that that was the face you were always looking for in a crowd and didn't realize it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (yQpMk)

86 78 It's weird, but I've never really worried very much about what Jesus looked like.

It's almost like I'm not obsessed with skin color as the basis of my understanding of people.
Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 09:49 AM (yK9py)

==========

If you're not obsessed with race, then you are a racist. Once you realize that Jesus looked Middle Eastern rather than European, you'll realize that all of Christianity is a lie and you will abandon all that you've believed your whole life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (LvTSG)

87 Black Jesus - very funny show.


Twitter guy - bigot

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (gmo/4)

88 Very Appropriate during this time of Lent.
Tuesday is also the day of the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Rosary. The 2nd Sorrowful mystery is the Scourging at the Pillar.
CBD nailed it today.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2021 09:46 AM (NpAcC)

It may seem trivial, but after I watched The Passion of the The Christ, the scourge and crucification took on a new reality and significance. Who would willingly do this for us... for me?

Posted by: LASue, aka Les White at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (Ed8Zd)

89 29 The negative space in the painting is significant and the light on Jesus that makes him stand out against the background.
Posted by: Ziba at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (S1hrL)

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"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him, and without Him was made nothing that was made. In Him was life, and the life was teh Light of men. And the Light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."

John 1

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (dfRN6)

90 100 comment rule. [CBD]

Posted by: Wray who is still in office for a reason at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (ONvIw)

91 77 related, - there a twitter idiot who thinks that people in Jesus-land will be disappointed to see what Jesus probably looked like as done with computer fiction.

That's all it is, computer generated fiction.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (xfb67)

Right? It's not like any random "insert nationality here" all look alike.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 09:52 AM (Zm+LZ)

92 75 Why is anyone surprised Jesus had abs? He was a carpenter, did some work, didn't eat himself fat, and was frickin' Jesus, man!
Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (W+kMI)

I heard a pretty decent argument, based off the original Greek, that He was actually a stonemason. I don't think it really matters, but it's interesting to think about.

Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 09:52 AM (OyyDO)

93 They have already done 3-D imaging from the shroud of Turin.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:52 AM (2BZBZ)

94 Sorry CBD. Will abide.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2021 09:52 AM (/MaDp)

95 They had Planet Fitness back then?
Posted by: dantesed at February 23, 2021 09:36 AM (88xKn)
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Dude was a carpenter. He'd been working with heavy timbers since his teens.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 09:52 AM (GLv8N)

96 I think Jesus looked like Mr. T because he pitied da fools.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 09:52 AM (VVEnO)

97 Carpenters did stone work and laid tile too, according to Anne Rice.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:53 AM (2BZBZ)

98 Perfect teeth. Nice smell. A class act, all the way.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at February 23, 2021 09:53 AM (yQpMk)

99 It may seem trivial, but after I watched The Passion of the The Christ, the scourge and crucification took on a new reality and significance. Who would willingly do this for us... for me?

***

I don't know if I heard it preached or a moron talked about it, but I always think about Jesus knowing everything about the people striking him, or driving the nails, or spitting on him. Everything in their past and future while they did it, and how he loved them without end throughout it all.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 09:53 AM (yK9py)

100 85 I believe it was C. S. Lewis who said that when you see Jesus, you will realize that that was the face you were always looking for in a crowd and didn't realize it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (yQpMk)

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That kind of gave me chills. I like it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2021 09:54 AM (FMoYW)

101 57 related, - there a twitter idiot who thinks that people in Jesus-land will be disappointed to see what Jesus probably looked like as done with computer modelling.
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I'm not disappointed in the idea of showing Jesus as having Semitic physical characteristics. I am disappointed at the attempt to equate Jesus with Palestinians instead. Two for one slam on the Christians and Jews in one image, eh?

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 09:54 AM (W+kMI)

102 75 Why is anyone surprised Jesus had abs? He was a carpenter, did some work, didn't eat himself fat, and was frickin' Jesus, man!
Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 09:48 AM (W+kMI)


Well, plus he did have the best possible genes.


Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2021 09:54 AM (AMIL/)

103 Tekton - artisan or craftsman

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2021 09:54 AM (gmo/4)

104 Jesus is God. Of course He doesn't look like me.

Posted by: Northernlurker, surgite at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (lgiXo)

105 I am non-Christian, but it strikes me that artists who are portraying G-d will take liberties based on what they want to accomplish, no? He as the ideal. He as the sufferer. He as the redeemer. Caravaggio's depiction is as the ideal: strong, tough, imbued with the power to accomplish his goal of salvation. People pretend not to get this because they don't want to.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (UZVEt)

106 Several years ago, one of my kids got into a situation that culminated in a very painful outcome. It was a nightmare, and it made me feel helpless and hopeless. I love that kid with my whole heart. I could not bear the possible ramifications, all down the line. I got on my knees and I begged God to let me take my kid's place. I would gladly bear whatever came next. Anything to save my kid.


To me, that's how I see Jesus. He loved his kids with his whole heart. He knew they were headed for a really bad outcome. Nothing they could do would change that. So He took their place. He said, I will bear it for you. I will take the punishment for you. I love you too much to let your actions define your destiny. I'll do it. I'll pay.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (45fpk)

107 It may seem trivial, but after I watched The Passion of the The Christ, the scourge and crucification took on a new reality and significance. Who would willingly do this for us... for me?
Posted by: LASue, aka Les White at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (Ed8Zd)
**********
Very powerful and haunting movie.
I plan to watch it in the next few weeks.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (NpAcC)

108 I believe it was C. S. Lewis who said that when you see Jesus, you will
realize that that was the face you were always looking for in a crowd
and didn't realize it.


Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (yQpMk)

Very interesting. One of the pleasures of C.S. Lewis is his ability to present old ideas in novel ways.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (Q9lwr)

109 97 Carpenters did stone work and laid tile too, according to Anne Rice.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:53 AM (2BZBZ)

and sung

don't forget the singing

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (6iURM)

110 Everyone knows a lot of religious paintings exist because they were commissioned by the Church, for the benefit of the masses who could not read the Bible themselves.

I suspect that's not the case with this guy. I suspect he was just fond of painting male anatomy, and this was a socially acceptable way to do so.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (oQ94s)

111 Ann Barnhardt has a good essay once about how Jesus was being tortured and killed by the folks he loved most.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (2BZBZ)

112 Crucify him! Crucify him!
--------
Nancy and Chucky would've been in the crowd.
Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 09:50 AM (W+kMI)

Nancy and Chucky are Caiaphus.

Posted by: LASue, aka Les White at February 23, 2021 09:56 AM (Ed8Zd)

113 Oh and does Twitter doofus realize Christianity is growing most rapidly in countries where people don't look European?

Posted by: Northernlurker, surgite at February 23, 2021 09:56 AM (lgiXo)

114 I watch it every Good Friday. Real tearjerker.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:56 AM (2BZBZ)

115 @DavidMDrucker 5m

INBOX from @sendavidperdue: "After much prayer and reflection, Bonnie and I have decided that we will not enter the race for the United States Senate in Georgia in 2022." #GASEN

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2021 09:56 AM (cF8AT)

116 Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (45fpk)

it just got dusty in here

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 23, 2021 09:56 AM (nUhF0)

117 It may seem trivial, but after I watched The Passion of the The Christ,
the scourge and crucification took on a new reality and significance.
Who would willingly do this for us... for me?

I saw a Dr. Peterson video the other day where he discusses Jesus' sacrifice and why it's important. Very interesting and raised a couple of very interesting points.https://youtu.be/xPIanlF6IwM

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (HaL55)

118 The Passion of the Christ - I cried almost non-stop watching that.

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (gmo/4)

119 Caravaggio's depiction is as the ideal: strong, tough, imbued with the power to accomplish his goal of salvation. People pretend not to get this because they don't want to.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (UZVEt)

I agree.

111 Ann Barnhardt has a good essay once about how Jesus was being tortured and killed by the folks he loved most.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM (2BZBZ)

The Romans?

Posted by: Wray who is still in office for a reason at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (ONvIw)

120 I know that Jesus' stepdad Joseph was of the line of David, but was Mary also from that family?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (yQpMk)

121 Posted by: Kris

FWIW, I really appreciate the detailed art comments that you bring to these threads. They always make me go back and take another look and appreciate the art even more (except for those times when you praise the detail in the ottoman paintings)!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 09:58 AM (87oRe)

122 INBOX from @sendavidperdue: "After much prayer and reflection, Bonnie and I have decided that we will not enter the race for the United States Senate in Georgia in 2022." #GASEN
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2021 09:56 AM (cF8AT)


Good. Be gone, chicken fucker.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2021 09:58 AM (lPl8I)

123 115 @DavidMDrucker 5m

INBOX from @sendavidperdue: "After much prayer and reflection, Bonnie and I have decided that we will not enter the race for the United States Senate in Georgia in 2022." #GASEN
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2021 09:56 AM (cF8AT)

========

Good.

Fucking loser who was unwilling to fight for the seat you already had by demanding his own governor follow the law.

Be gone with you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 09:58 AM (LvTSG)

124 106 Several years ago, one of my kids got into a situation that culminated in a very painful outcome. It was a nightmare, and it made me feel helpless and hopeless. I love that kid with my whole heart. I could not bear the possible ramifications, all down the line. I got on my knees and I begged God to let me take my kid's place. I would gladly bear whatever came next. Anything to save my kid.


To me, that's how I see Jesus. He loved his kids with his whole heart. He knew they were headed for a really bad outcome. Nothing they could do would change that. So He took their place. He said, I will bear it for you. I will take the punishment for you. I love you too much to let your actions define your destiny. I'll do it. I'll pay.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2021 09:55 AM

Very powerful, grammie. I hope that your faith brought you peace.

Posted by: Moonbeam at February 23, 2021 09:59 AM (qe5CM)

125 I never believed that Jesus was a blonde haired white man as depicted in so much art in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. (at least what was up on a wall in a protestant church basement).

I didn't really give much thought about what he looked like. it was more about what he did, what he was and was done to him.

Some of the martyrs in the early days experienced much worse deaths. But I believed and have faith and tho sometimes that faith has been taxed beyond my abilities it comes back and gives me an inner peace. (now that I'm older)

Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2021 09:59 AM (6epVR)

126 I know that Jesus' stepdad Joseph was of the line of David, but was Mary also from that family?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (yQpMk)

Yes, Mary was also of the lineage of David.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2021 09:59 AM (45fpk)

127 120 I know that Jesus' stepdad Joseph was of the line of David, but was Mary also from that family?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (yQpMk)

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I believe she was but don't ask me to show the math.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 23, 2021 09:59 AM (dfRN6)

128 Jesus was a sassy black woman.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:00 AM (yK9py)

129 Insurers are now creating products to insure businesses against reputational damage and resulting loss of profit, citing businesses' increased used / exposure to social media.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out with respect to efforts to boycott / cancel businesses.

Posted by: Revenant at February 23, 2021 10:01 AM (Gcdtg)

130 Jesus looked like Cesare Borgia.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 23, 2021 10:01 AM (nUhF0)

131 121 Posted by: Kris

FWIW, I really appreciate the detailed art comments that you bring to these threads. They always make me go back and take another look and appreciate the art even more (except for those times when you praise the detail in the ottoman paintings)!
Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 09:58 AM

Agree! I went back to the top to immediately after reading!

Posted by: Moonbeam at February 23, 2021 10:01 AM (qe5CM)

132 Speaking of traitors like Caiaphus, the dem-run tax witch hunt against Pres. Trump and his family is probably mainly for leverage in '22/'24- shut up and sit down or we'll put your daughter and wife in jail.

Posted by: LASue, aka Les White at February 23, 2021 10:01 AM (Ed8Zd)

133 Jesus wasn't a poor carpenter, either. Carpentry is a skilled trade, and Joseph would've had construction jobs not only on the Jewish side of Galilee but on the Greek side, which had the money. Joseph had enough denarii stashed away to send Jesus to synagogue school to get an education. Throw in some woodworking projects on the side and the family was doing well. Jesus walked away from that when he got baptized and began his ministry.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:02 AM (W+kMI)

134 The Romans?

Yes, the Romans and all of us.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:02 AM (2BZBZ)

135 What is he saying??

https://tinyurl.com/y7ke9nrg

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2021 10:02 AM (yrol0)

136 120 I know that Jesus' stepdad Joseph was of the line of David, but was Mary also from that family?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (yQpMk)

Yes. One lineage was given in one Gospel, the other in another. Although at this time given the time gap, David should have had a massive amount of descendants.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:02 AM (Zm+LZ)

137 Interesting tidbit: one of the reasons we aren't sure what Jesus looked like is because of the Second Commandment--no graven images.

They think the first depiction of Jesus was created about 300 AD

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:02 AM (AwPyG)

138 INBOX from @sendavidperdue: "After much prayer and reflection, Bonnie and I have decided that we will not enter the race for the United States Senate in Georgia in 2022." #GASEN

Trump!, guess he can delete the piss on Perdue section of his CPAC speech

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2021 10:02 AM (Xih1H)

139 I heard a pretty decent argument, based off the original Greek, that He was actually a stonemason.
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That's interesting given "the stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone."

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 10:02 AM (d6he9)

140 Mary was of the tribe of Benjamin.

So, unless the Holy Spirit used David's DNA, Jesus wasn't really descended from David.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:03 AM (2BZBZ)

141 Yes, Mary was also of the lineage of David.

Samuel describes David as being ruddy, like Esau, so he might have been auburn headed or even strawberry blond.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:03 AM (yQpMk)

142 >Sorry CBD. Will abide.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2021 09:52 AM (/MaDp)


The dude abides.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2021 10:04 AM (sjdRT)

143 Excellent news that Perdue isn't running. If he had contested the signatures initially, he would have surpassed the 50%+ and won in Nov. But, that would have given PDT the win, too, so couldn't have that. That move was when it was evident McConnell cared less about keeping the Senate than ridding himself of Trump.

Posted by: EveR at February 23, 2021 10:04 AM (R0z7P)

144 The Passion of the Christ - I cried almost non-stop watching that.
Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (gmo/4)

My son warned me to have Kleenex handy- silly me- I thought it meant I'd have a tear or two gently running down my cheek. I didn't expect the full-fledged wailing.

Posted by: LASue, aka Les White at February 23, 2021 10:04 AM (Ed8Zd)

145 @AceSix4

VIDEO: The Merrick Garland confirmation hearing, in under a minute:

https://tinyurl.com/y9kror63

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2021 10:04 AM (cF8AT)

146 Mary was of the tribe of Benjamin.



So, unless the Holy Spirit used David's DNA, Jesus wasn't really descended from David.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:03 AM (2BZBZ)


Oh shoot. Now I have to go rooting around in the geneologies.....

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2021 10:04 AM (45fpk)

147 109 97 Carpenters did stone work and laid tile too, according to Anne Rice.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:53 AM (2BZBZ)

and sung

don't forget the singing
------
and whistling

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:05 AM (W+kMI)

148 125 I never believed that Jesus was a blonde haired white man as depicted in so much art in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. (at least what was up on a wall in a protestant church basement).

I didn't really give much thought about what he looked like. it was more about what he did, what he was and was done to him.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2021 09:59 AM

In the picture most familiar in my Catholic upbringing, it was the sacred heart in the middle of his chest that had the most mesmerizing effect on me.

Posted by: Moonbeam at February 23, 2021 10:05 AM (qe5CM)

149 Carpenters did stone work and laid tile too, according to Anne Rice.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 09:53 AM (2BZBZ)

and sung

don't forget the singing
------
and whistling

And drumming. Karen was a skilled drummer too.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:05 AM (Bmy3R)

150 never believed that Jesus was a blonde haired white man as depicted in
so much art in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. (at least what
was up on a wall in a protestant church basement).


I think I know which picture you mean. I always call him Norwegian Jesus.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2021 10:06 AM (45fpk)

151 Agree! I went back to the top to immediately after reading!
Seconded. I'll usually click on CBD's link and embiggen it for a better view followed by an exhaustive search on that Intarwebz thingy for more background on the chosen piece. It's a nice workout for this Moron.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 23, 2021 10:06 AM (HaL55)

152 140 Mary was of the tribe of Benjamin.

So, unless the Holy Spirit used David's DNA, Jesus wasn't really descended from David.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:03 AM (2BZBZ)

David was likely a common ancestor for that area of the world at this point. Most Europeans can't trace their lineage to Charlemagne, but are literally descended from him.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:06 AM (Zm+LZ)

153 Seattle Mariners CEO resigns after saying he didn't like paying for interpreters, and disparaging Latin prospects fluency and smarts.

WSJ - https://archive.is/Yz6q1

Posted by: McCool at February 23, 2021 10:06 AM (BqBIh)

154 Like the Richard Hook surfer Jesus?

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:07 AM (2BZBZ)

155 113 Oh and does Twitter doofus realize Christianity is growing most rapidly in countries where people don't look European?
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Yeah, what would Twitter doofus say about Ethiopian Coptic art that shows Jesus as a beardless dark-skinned man of mixed Semitic-African descent? You know, like most Ethiopians.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:07 AM (W+kMI)

156 Dangit, now I have Allman Brothers stuck in my head.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

You must have a big head !

That gorilla glue is some stuff, eh ?

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2021 10:07 AM (arJlL)

157 Hiya Moonbeam !

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2021 10:08 AM (arJlL)

158 I think Jesus looked like Mr. T because he pitied da fools.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 09:52 AM (VVEnO)

I like that joke.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 23, 2021 10:08 AM (1lKRm)

159 It may be likely that Mary was descended from David. But the genealogies were part of the patrimony.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:08 AM (2BZBZ)

160 So, unless the Holy Spirit used David's DNA, Jesus wasn't really descended from David.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:03 AM (2BZBZ)

Her cousin, Elizabeth, was a Levite

Posted by: Wray who is still in office for a reason at February 23, 2021 10:08 AM (ONvIw)

161 Garland explained before adding the following caveat: An attack simply on government property at night, or under any other kind of circumstances, is a clear crime and a serious one, and should be punished.

Rioting, like daydrinking, is ok between civil sunrise and civil sunset!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (yrol0)

162 143 Excellent news that Perdue isn't running. If he had contested the signatures initially, he would have surpassed the 50%+ and won in Nov. But, that would have given PDT the win, too, so couldn't have that. That move was when it was evident McConnell cared less about keeping the Senate than ridding himself of Trump.
Posted by: EveR at February 23, 2021 10:04 AM (R0z7P)

Mitch is happier to be in the minority where they don't have to actually deliver things they pretend to stand for when asking for votes but what their pay masters don't actually want.

He just doesn't want to be in a meaningless minority that isn't worth people giving grift to in order to make sure things they absolutely don't want to pass don't pass, like taxes on big companies to pay for all the cheap labor they want to import.

Posted by: Bete at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (Ojki1)

163 128 Jesus was a sassy black woman.
Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:00 AM (yK9py)

and a helluva left fielder

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (6iURM)

164 >>> What is he saying??

https://tinyurl.com/y7ke9nrg
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2021 10:02 AM (yrol0)


We are being afflicted with millstones, he's not wrong. He's being cursed with speaking the truth, as painful as that might be for his puppet masters.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (4tN2f)

165 I know that Jesus' stepdad Joseph was of the line of David, but was Mary also from that family?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (yQpMk)

I believe she was but don't ask me to show the math.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 23, 2021 09:59 AM (dfRN6)

Doesn't make for exciting reading. Begone, begats!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (oQ94s)

166 By that time in the history of the Israelites, they probably weren't following the rule "Outside the clan, inside the tribe."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (2BZBZ)

167 152 140 Mary was of the tribe of Benjamin.

So, unless the Holy Spirit used David's DNA, Jesus wasn't really descended from David.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:03 AM (2BZBZ)

David was likely a common ancestor for that area of the world at this point. Most Europeans can't trace their lineage to Charlemagne, but are literally descended from him.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:06 AM (Zm+LZ)

I read somewhere that 1/4 or 1/3 of the world's population is descended from Gengis Khan?

Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (OyyDO)

168 157 Hiya Moonbeam !
Posted by: JT at February 23, 2021 10:08 AM

Howdy JT!

Posted by: Moonbeam at February 23, 2021 10:10 AM (qe5CM)

169 Mary also had ties to the Calgonites. Their robes were always nice and white.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:10 AM (Bmy3R)

170 For your morning smile from Toronto... "Car windshield broken after reports of food and water bottles thrown from balcony of building on Temperance St."

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 10:10 AM (d6he9)

171 Preacher man talking on the TV, puttin' down the rock and roll. Wants me to send a donations, 'cause he's worried about my soul. He sid, "Jesus walked on the water", and I know that is true. But sometimes I think that preacher man wants to do a little walking too.

-Charlie Daniels

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2021 10:11 AM (gmo/4)

172 That's 1/4 of the Chinese are descended from Genghis Khan.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:11 AM (2BZBZ)

173 all out of blasphemies

later

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 10:12 AM (6iURM)

174 Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:00 AM (yK9py)

Lololol

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 23, 2021 10:12 AM (dIpnE)

175 167 1

I read somewhere that 1/4 or 1/3 of the world's population is descended from Gengis Khan?
Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (OyyDO)

Given another couple hundred years it ought to near 100%.

The easy way to realize this is to count your 2 parents, count their 2 parents, and exponentiate backwards. It doesn't take long for your ancestor count in a generation to exceed the number of people alive. The reason is that you're related to the same people multiple times over.

People's bloodlines either trend towards common ancestry for future humans or go to extinction. And in the sense of bloodlines(though not meaningfully for genetics), one person from China can give everyone in Europe Chinese ancestry.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (Zm+LZ)

176 Really surprised no one's mentioned hitting the curve ball, yet.

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (AwPyG)

177 140 Mary was of the tribe of Benjamin.

So, unless the Holy Spirit used David's DNA, Jesus wasn't really descended from David.
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David was from the tribe of Benjamin; Bethlehem was his home town. So in the Christmas story Joseph (descendant of David) and Mary (descendant of David) get to Bethlehem (David's city) so Jesus (heir to David) can be born there.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (W+kMI)

178 I think I know which picture you mean. I always call him Norwegian Jesus.




Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2021 10:06 AM (45fpk)

Blonde hair, blue eyes, blonde beardand moustache with a look of calm like some stoned hippie.
That's what I saw when I was younger. (not the hippie part cause they came later) He looked a bit wishy washy. Maybe a bit light in the sandals.
Reading the New Testament gave that the lie. He was a tough no nonsense guy who could kick ass mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I think Compassion is foremost but not a weak and weepy compassion but one of strength and will to aid those in pain or danger.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (6epVR)

179 172 That's 1/4 of the Chinese are descended from Genghis Khan.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:11 AM (2BZBZ)

the wrath of Khan

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 10:14 AM (6iURM)

180 What is he saying??

https://tinyurl.com/y7ke9nrg
Posted by: rhennigantx

***

That poor old man. Not that I care, really, and I'm sort of enjoying watching him decline publicly because he's always been a horrible person, but look at the photo at the link. They want so badly for him and Dr. Professor Jill Biden, MD to be youthful and cool.

But they're not. They're just elderly and out of place.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:14 AM (yK9py)

181 Well this sucks. Apparently using a VPN and some of the IP addresses are banned.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 23, 2021 10:14 AM (j7Ip2)

182 120 I know that Jesus' stepdad Joseph was of the line of David, but was Mary also from that family?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 09:57 AM (yQpMk)


I think they're referring to his dad. G'rump. You know...the Big Guy.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2021 10:14 AM (XxJt1)

183 I read somewhere that 1/4 or 1/3 of the world's population is descended from Gengis Khan?

Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (OyyDO)

And i would have bashed in the Kerry guy's skull for mispronouncing my name!

Posted by: The Great Khan at February 23, 2021 10:15 AM (gmo/4)

184 Oh, and did you know that being a doddering old fool who bumbles through spoken language is "having a stutter"?

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:15 AM (yK9py)

185 @178

I think he was probably a big, robust man with a big voice. No amplification equipment at that time, and he spoke to thousands

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:15 AM (AwPyG)

186 What is he saying??

https://tinyurl.com/y7ke9nrg
Posted by: rhennigantx

No longer Mork our national Morking?

Paging Pam Dawber to translate...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:15 AM (Bmy3R)

187 Meditating on what Christ did for us is very humbling. And then I realize it's not too much for us to do the same for Him if it comes to that.

Posted by: Emmie: grubby, low-born, non-billionaire commenter at February 23, 2021 10:15 AM (ofYez)

188 177. David was from the tribe of Judah

Posted by: Wray who is still in office for a reason at February 23, 2021 10:16 AM (ONvIw)

189 Btw - learning a lot of random biblical history reading this thread. Which is cool AF. Thanks everyone.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 23, 2021 10:16 AM (j7Ip2)

190 175 167 1

I read somewhere that 1/4 or 1/3 of the world's population is descended from Gengis Khan?
Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 10:09 AM (OyyDO)

Given another couple hundred years it ought to near 100%.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM

I think it's more likely to be NBA basketball players.

Posted by: Moonbeam at February 23, 2021 10:17 AM (qe5CM)

191 I worked with a Jewish guy once that had jet black hair and bright blue eyes. It was quite striking.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:17 AM (yQpMk)

192 Art. Too scary
Would sell, retire, vanish.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at February 23, 2021 10:17 AM (LJ6Yz)

193 189 - don't write down that part about the Calgonites. I made that up. The Dy-no-mites, on the other hand, with their leader JJ and his floppy denim hat...they were real.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:17 AM (Bmy3R)

194 learning a lot of random biblical history reading this thread. Which is cool AF. Thanks everyone.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 23, 2021 10:16 AM (j7Ip2)

We're not quite as dumb as we look!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2021 10:18 AM (Q9lwr)

195 Well this sucks. Apparently using a VPN and some of the IP addresses are banned.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

***

Yeah, the trolls lurv them some VPNs. Sadly, free people do, too. Keep trying. Most of the time there are settings allowing multiple choices in the same city.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:18 AM (yK9py)

196 On the note of Tribe of Judah. Jew=Tribe of Judah, or at least Kingdom of Judah. The Samaritans are the other tribes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:18 AM (Zm+LZ)

197 Btw - learning a lot of random biblical history reading this thread. Which is cool AF. Thanks everyone.

Yep. There are lots of neat things to learn about the most important man in history.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 23, 2021 10:18 AM (HaL55)

198 176 Really surprised no one's mentioned hitting the curve ball, yet.

Are you trying to say Jesus Christ can hit a curveball?

Posted by: Eddie Harris SP Cleveland Indians at February 23, 2021 10:18 AM (WvoAE)

199 194 We're not quite as dumb as we look!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2021 10:18 AM (Q9lwr)

=======

Speak for yourself.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:18 AM (LvTSG)

200 I am exactly as dumb as I look.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:19 AM (yQpMk)

201 Reading the New Testament gave that the lie. He was a tough no nonsense guy who could kick ass mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I think Compassion is foremost but not a weak and weepy compassion but one of strength and will to aid those in pain or danger.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (6epVR)


An excellent summary and viewpoint. Jesus was no weepy weakling!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:19 AM (87oRe)

202 161 Garland explained before adding the following caveat: An attack simply on government property at night, or under any other kind of circumstances, is a clear crime and a serious one, and should be punished.
------
So according to Garland, any person attacking a government property is a crime, regardless of time and place. Makes you wonder what he has to say about Antifa & BLM attacking private AND government property, regardless of time and place.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:19 AM (W+kMI)

203 Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:08 AM (2BZBZ)

Mary was descended from David by a different son than Solomon while Joseph was from Solomon's line.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 23, 2021 10:19 AM (1lKRm)

204 10/10 would hang...

Posted by: Roman Soldiers at February 23, 2021 10:20 AM (WvoAE)

205 More like a splash of Khan..

Posted by: DB- just DB. at February 23, 2021 10:20 AM (LJ6Yz)

206 10/10 would hang...
Posted by: Roman Soldiers at February 23, 2021 10:20 AM (WvoAE)



I am going to hell for snorting at this.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:20 AM (yQpMk)

207 Really surprised no one's mentioned hitting the curve ball, yet.

Are you trying to say Jesus Christ can hit a curveball?
Posted by: Eddie Harris SP Cleveland Indians

If Jesus was the catcher you just know Peter, as pitcher, would shake off the signs three times.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2021 10:21 AM (Rvt88)

208 191 I worked with a Jewish guy once that had jet black hair and bright blue eyes. It was quite striking.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:17 AM

I didn't think that was uncommon?

Posted by: Moonbeam at February 23, 2021 10:21 AM (qe5CM)

209 I worked with a Jewish guy once that had jet black hair and bright blue eyes. It was quite striking.

***

If you ever meet an attractive woman with that combination you'll remember her forever.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:21 AM (yK9py)

210 CBD, thank you. Fitting for Lent.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 23, 2021 10:22 AM (DEQ2g)

211 Archer, that's one of the best songs of all time. I love the Charlie Daniels version. But... I like the DAC version even more. It's the voice. The "fuck off out of here with that shit" contemptuous tone that Coe is so good at really fits the song.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 10:22 AM (0WKYs)

212 We're not quite as dumb as we look!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2021 10:18 AM (Q9lwr)


Wait, I could sworn that you have been to a MoMee!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:23 AM (87oRe)

213 @191

I worked with a red haired Jewish woman. She told of a time in a NY kosher deli when the butcher told the people in line-- "let me serve this girl, she's obviously lost"

When she explained that no, she was Jewish, he told her to get back in line.

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:23 AM (AwPyG)

214 An excellent summary and viewpoint. Jesus was no weepy weakling!
Not by a long shot. But that's what PROGDA wants everyone else to think. That's why they usually cite the "turn the other cheek" passage of the Bible so much, to encourage weakness in His followers and accept Stan's blasphemies and aggressions.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 23, 2021 10:23 AM (HaL55)

215 Oh, and did you know that being a doddering old fool who bumbles through spoken language is "having a stutter"?
Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:15 AM (yK9py)

"Mm..mmmm; mmm; illle; ssssssstone," is a stutter.
"Mill...stune....umm, uhhh, hmm ..mile--stone," said while trying to read but looking completely lost, is not.

Posted by: LASue, aka Les White at February 23, 2021 10:24 AM (Ed8Zd)

216 I worked with a redheaded Jewish woman at my last job. She got a lot more Jewish around the Jewish holidays.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:24 AM (Bmy3R)

217 Mornin' all.. I see we are still screwed

Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2021 10:24 AM (Zmnko)

218 The Pharisees torment Trump while letting Soros go free.

Burn it all down, scatter the stones, and nuke it all.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:24 AM (NHj8C)

219 So according to Garland, any person attacking a government property is a crime, regardless of time and place. Makes you wonder what he has to say about Antifa & BLM attacking private AND government property, regardless of time and place.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:19 AM (W+kMI)


A question he will *NEVER* be asked!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:25 AM (87oRe)

220 Burn it all down, scatter the stones, and nuke it all.

I'm just about there

Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2021 10:25 AM (Zmnko)

221 Thanks. I learn something new everyday here.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:25 AM (2BZBZ)

222 If you ever meet an attractive woman with that combination you'll remember her forever.
Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:21 AM (yK9py)
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Yes. Yes, you will.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:25 AM (GLv8N)

223 I worked with a redheaded Jewish woman at my last job. She got a lot more Jewish around the Jewish holidays.
Posted by: Guy Smiley

So, similar to the C and E Catholics?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2021 10:25 AM (Rvt88)

224 TFG had a stutter

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 23, 2021 10:26 AM (nUhF0)

225 201 Reading the New Testament gave that the lie. He was a tough no nonsense guy who could kick ass mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I think Compassion is foremost but not a weak and weepy compassion but one of strength and will to aid those in pain or danger.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (6epVR)

An excellent summary and viewpoint. Jesus was no weepy weakling!
Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:19 AM (87oRe)


He was also a chick magnet.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 23, 2021 10:26 AM (Fs5vw)

226 Glenn Greenwald. @ggreenwald
PolitiFact finally acknowledges the truth: nobody has any idea how Brian Sicknick died. His mother said he was never hit and believes he died of a stroke. His brother thinks it may have been pepper spray. Nobody knows

Posted by: SMOD at February 23, 2021 10:26 AM (3aI0K)

227 Interesting side note about the genealogy of Christ: Ruth was also one of his ancestors. A Moabitess, no less.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 10:26 AM (2SdPm)

228 209 I worked with a Jewish guy once that had jet black hair and bright blue eyes. It was quite striking.

***

If you ever meet an attractive woman with that combination you'll remember her forever.
Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:21 AM (yK9py)

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Heh, I married one. Sephardic. Her family can trace their lineage all the way back to getting booted out of Spain during the Inquisition.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 23, 2021 10:27 AM (dfRN6)

229 I'm just about there
Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2021 10:25 AM (Zmnko)

hear hear

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 23, 2021 10:27 AM (nUhF0)

230 Dad's a Great Russian and mom's Litvak. Yielded a blond and blue eyed Jew in the form of YD.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 10:27 AM (0WKYs)

231 Ruth was David's grandmother. Married to Boaz, mother of Jesse.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:27 AM (2BZBZ)

232 what about the tribes of Amerikka

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 23, 2021 10:28 AM (nUhF0)

233 226 Glenn Greenwald. @ggreenwald
PolitiFact finally acknowledges the truth: nobody has any idea how Brian Sicknick died. His mother said he was never hit and believes he died of a stroke. His brother thinks it may have been pepper spray. Nobody knows
Posted by: SMOD at February 23, 2021 10:26 AM (3aI0K)

==========

I'm not saying it was Aliens...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:28 AM (LvTSG)

234 226 Glenn Greenwald. @ggreenwald
PolitiFact finally acknowledges the truth: nobody has any idea how Brian Sicknick died. His mother said he was never hit and believes he died of a stroke. His brother thinks it may have been pepper spray. Nobody knows

So the only real deaths are the accidents along the protest march route and the murder of Ashli...

Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2021 10:28 AM (Zmnko)

235 Glenn Greenwald. @ggreenwald
PolitiFact finally acknowledges the truth: nobody has any idea how Brian Sicknick died. His mother said he was never hit and believes he died of a stroke. His brother thinks it may have been pepper spray. Nobody knows
Posted by: SMOD


But the narrative stands. MAGA killed him. Spit.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2021 10:28 AM (90cx5)

236 I am reading a book, "The Watchful Mind" by an Eastern Orthodox monk who lived on Mt Athos and who wrote in the 1800's. It is teachings (in essay form) on the prayer of the heart which goes "Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me." which is a prayer of long tradition in the Eastern Orthodox Church. I thought of that prayer when I saw this painting, and Caravaggio has always been one of my favorite artists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2021 10:28 AM (VP4Cd)

237 Nobody knows
Posted by: SMOD at February 23, 2021 10:26 AM (3aI0K)


But that is no longer important, because the *official* narrative has been firmly established, and any questions to the contrary have been thoroughly discredited!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:29 AM (87oRe)

238 201 Reading the New Testament gave that the lie. He was a tough no nonsense guy who could kick ass mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I think Compassion is foremost but not a weak and weepy compassion but one of strength and will to aid those in pain or danger.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (6epVR)

An excellent summary and viewpoint. Jesus was no weepy weakling!
Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:19 AM (87oRe)

The Jesus of Revelations shows this to be true. He was no weakling, it's just His first advent wasn't about judgement. It was about salvation. His second advent is the Reckoning.

Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 10:29 AM (OyyDO)

239 At this point, the alien engineer from Prometheus falling into the Potomac is welcome

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:29 AM (NHj8C)

240 If the Shroud of Turin is legit -- which it seems to be -- Jesus took an epic beating during His scourging.

The Roman scourge beat, cut, and ripped tissue -- blunt trauma, incision, and avulsion.

Any Horde doctors, nurses, or EMTs out there? Was Jesus in hypovolemic shock when the scourging was over?

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 23, 2021 10:29 AM (DEQ2g)

241 jet black hair and bright blue eyes. It was quite striking.

***

If you ever meet an attractive woman with that combination you'll remember her forever.


Oh yes.

I remember 30 years ago in college. A gal from Mississippi named Missy Tate. Good lord--might've been to most ridiculously attractive woman I've ever met.

But alas... it was not meant to be.

She probably has gorgeous grandkids though...

Posted by: Roman Soldiers at February 23, 2021 10:29 AM (WvoAE)

242 And Sicknick's body had been cremated.

Kind of surprising, considering the cause of death is unknown, and the ME won't release the autopsy report.

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:30 AM (AwPyG)

243 "Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me." which is a prayer of long tradition in the Eastern Orthodox Church. I thought of that prayer when I saw this painting, and Caravaggio has always been one of my favorite artists.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2021 10:28 AM (VP4Cd)
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Is the book an essay on the Parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 10:30 AM (2SdPm)

244 239 At this point, the alien engineer from Prometheus falling into the Potomac is welcome
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:29 AM (NHj8C)

=========

I imagine many chicks would be into that bod.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (LvTSG)

245
This country is not populated by Americans any more, in the main.

It is populated by Fauci's Pussies.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (pNxlR)

246 Courtney Cox has dark hair and blue eyes. Very pretty

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (AwPyG)

247 PolitiFact finally acknowledges the truth: nobody has any idea how Brian
Sicknick died. His mother said he was never hit and believes he died of
a stroke. His brother thinks it may have been pepper spray. Nobody
knows


It's too bad we don't have somebody like a doctor who could maybe do some type of examination and figure out what happened to him.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (HaL55)

248 Fen, that prayer is ancient. The Desert Fathers prayed it in meditation. I often pray it in bed while awaiting sleep.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (2BZBZ)

249 Off damn Roman Soldiers sock!

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (WvoAE)

250 241 If you ever meet an attractive woman with that combination you'll remember her forever.

==========

Alexandra Dadsario.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (LvTSG)

251 "... have mercy on me, a sinner."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (2BZBZ)

252 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

253 Px90

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:32 AM (Zz0t1)

254 Hogmartin linked Mastodon so now I'm rawkin' out.

I'm nervous -- the foster parents are dropping off the new kitteh soon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 23, 2021 10:32 AM (Dc2NZ)

255 3 "Caravaggio was a hack."
-Rothko

"And so was Michaelango"
--Modigliani

Posted by: Wade Hampton at February 23, 2021 10:33 AM (Su9Le)

256 The Roman scourge beat, cut, and ripped tissue -- blunt trauma, incision, and avulsion.
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The flagrum was an instrument of torture used when you had no intention of keeping the victim alive. It had lead tags on it to cause tye damage described above.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:33 AM (GLv8N)

257 And Sicknick's body had been cremated.

Kind of surprising, considering the cause of death is unknown, and the ME won't release the autopsy report.

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:30 AM (AwPyG)


Amazing how these scum do not miss a trick.
If nothing else would do it, observations like this should make you accept that Stan is still "alive", and thriving, here on earth today!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:33 AM (87oRe)

258 Eris

So what will you name the kitteh?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:33 AM (NHj8C)

259 The Jesus of Revelations shows this to be true. He was no weakling, it's just His first advent wasn't about judgement. It was about salvation. His second advent is the Reckoning.
Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 10:29 AM (OyyDO)
--------------

It seems to me that Christ was a conquering Messiah, in that He conquered death.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 10:34 AM (2SdPm)

260 Stan is still "alive", and thriving, here on earth today!
Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:33 AM (87oRe)


Of course Stan is still alive.

They kill Kenny every episode.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:34 AM (Zz0t1)

261 She probably has gorgeous grandkids though...
Posted by: Roman Soldiers at February 23, 2021 10:29 AM (WvoAE)
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do they have long hair that is good for sniffing?

Posted by: slow joe biden at February 23, 2021 10:35 AM (2SdPm)

262 Name the cat after some sort of food.

Corndog or tater or carrot or poundcake or soup or any number of other wonderful pet names.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:35 AM (yK9py)

263 Wheeee! The snow is gone. High fire danger warning has now been posted.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2021 10:36 AM (XxJt1)

264 Just cut my cable tv. Found out that streaming tv is just as good.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 23, 2021 10:36 AM (Fs5vw)

265 Just cut my cable tv. Found out that streaming tv is just as good.
Posted by: Justsayin' at February 23, 2021 10:36 AM (Fs5vw)


Which one are you using?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (Zz0t1)

266 The flagrum was an instrument of torture used when you had no intention of keeping the victim alive. It had lead tags on it to cause tye damage described above.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:33 AM (GLv8N)
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Even without that, crucifixion was slow death, through asphyxiation, if I remember correctly. Though, the Romans would hasten the process through breaking the legs.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (2SdPm)

267 Name a kitteh after food items?

Moo-goo-gai-pan?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (NHj8C)

268 Anybody know the tax implications of remote work from another state?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (Zm+LZ)

269 Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:31 AM (2BZBZ)

Yes; I know that. The teachings talk about how to use it repeatedly. I wasn't meaning to imply that it had only been around since the 1800's The EO church has a lot of teaching on it from the beginning of the church, but these are from about the 1850s.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (VP4Cd)

270 Chris Hayes
@chrislhayes
This is an under-acknowledged feature of Trump-era right wing politics. Anyone who becomes publicly associated with opposition to his movement faces immediate, serious security concerns. It's widespread.

-
You bastards!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (VVEnO)

271 268 Anybody know the tax implications of remote work from another state?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (Zm+LZ)

========

"Fuck you, pay me."
-California

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:38 AM (LvTSG)

272 Name a kitteh after food items?

Moo-goo-gai-pan?
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (NHj8C)


Wait. You can eat cat too?

Posted by: Barry O'Bama at February 23, 2021 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

273 It seems to me that Christ was a conquering Messiah, in that He conquered death.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 10:34 AM (2SdPm)

And hes coming back, but very mean this time!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2021 10:38 AM (yrol0)

274 Just cut my cable tv. Found out that streaming tv is just as good.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 23, 2021 10:36 AM (Fs5vw)


Whilst spending recovery time with DaughterH, I was amazed at the variety of stuff available from streaming internet.

I made Conor sit and watch Cesar Milan dog training videos with me, but none of them seemed to take!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:39 AM (87oRe)

275 *looks and paws*

Not touching that one.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:39 AM (NHj8C)

276 201 Reading the New Testament gave that the lie. He was a tough no nonsense guy who could kick ass mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I think Compassion is foremost but not a weak and weepy compassion but one of strength and will to aid those in pain or danger.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (6epVR)

An excellent summary and viewpoint. Jesus was no weepy weakling!
Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:19 AM (87oRe)


I use Cox internet service. They're very good on the internet side.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 23, 2021 10:39 AM (Fs5vw)

277 227 Interesting side note about the genealogy of Christ: Ruth was also one of his ancestors. A Moabitess, no less.
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Jesus had three female ancestors of note who are all mentioned specifically in the OT. Rahab, the kind whore of Jericho; Ruth the loyal foreign woman from Moab; Bathsheba the desperate housewife of Jerusalem. Makes you think about why Jesus was kind to sinners, especially the female ones, and taught people about forgiveness.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:39 AM (W+kMI)

278
Anyone who becomes publicly associated with opposition to his movement faces immediate, serious security concerns. It's widespread.


What the ever-loving eff are you squawking about, you swearer sobbing simp?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2021 10:39 AM (pNxlR)

279 268 Anybody know the tax implications of remote work from another state?

I have lived and worked in CO for a NY-based company for 6 years. Other than having to do the split-state taxes my first year, I just pay CO. The company attorney says they have it covered in several different ways, if Angel of Death ever tries to come after me.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (Bmy3R)

280 Anybody know the tax implications of remote work from another state?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (Zm+LZ)
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Depends on the state. If you're in Oregon, you're f'd in the a.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (GLv8N)

281 271 268 Anybody know the tax implications of remote work from another state?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (Zm+LZ)

========

"Fuck you, pay me."
-California
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:38 AM (LvTSG)

Me First!
-New York

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (oHd/0)

282 It wasn't until Charlemagne that the EO broke with Rome. They were incensed with the Pope. "What about our Emperor?"

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (2BZBZ)

283 Chris Hayes
@chrislhayes
This is an under-acknowledged feature of Trump-era right wing politics. Anyone who becomes publicly associated with opposition to his movement faces immediate, serious security concerns. It's widespread.


It's the "I'm rubber, you're glue" method.

It's the same every time. They deflect upon us EVERYTHING they are already doing tenfold.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

284 Popcorn is a good kitty name.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (lPl8I)

285 What are the odds of Biden starting a war and not knowing what he did?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2021 10:41 AM (/MaDp)

286 I do have to register my apartment as a "branch office" of the NY company under CO law. The company pays for that.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:41 AM (Bmy3R)

287 284 Popcorn is a good kitty name.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (lPl8I)

========

Just imagine the dad jokes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:41 AM (LvTSG)

288 Oops. Massive cut and paste fail.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 23, 2021 10:41 AM (Fs5vw)

289 What are the odds of Biden starting a war and not knowing what he did?

"That's some nurse!" - Land of Confusion

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (NHj8C)

290 Popcorn is a good kitty name.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (lPl8I)


It's not like they know what their name is anyway.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

291 >>> Hogmartin linked Mastodon so now I'm rawkin' out.

I'm nervous -- the foster parents are dropping off the new kitteh soon.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 23, 2021 10:32 AM (Dc2NZ)


If you like Mastodon you might like Baroness too. Both prog/art metal. Mastodon is from N. GA, Atlanta and Baroness is from south GA, Savannah.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (4tN2f)

292 286 I do have to register my apartment as a "branch office" of the NY company under CO law. The company pays for that.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:41 AM (Bmy3R)

Hire a cleaning service and deduct it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (xfb67)

293 I see a big yellow bright, and unfamiliar, thing up in the sky, I think I will go out and see what it is?
Have a good day people!

Posted by: Commissar Chairman Hrothgar ~ (@Hrothgar on GAB) at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (87oRe)

294 The Pope needed soldiers to fight the Lombards and Constantinople said "You're on you own."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (2BZBZ)

295 @chrislhayes
This is an under-acknowledged feature of Trump-era right wing politics. Anyone who becomes publicly associated with opposition to his movement faces immediate, serious security concerns. It's widespread. ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (VVEnO)
++++
The lack of self-awareness there is just staggering.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2021 10:43 AM (UZVEt)

296 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 23, 2021 10:32 AM (Dc2NZ)

I missed that you were getting a new kitten. Is it ant particular type?

My two oldest kids are living with their grandma and just convinced her to get a kitten two days ago. It sounds like she's been a big hit so far.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 23, 2021 10:43 AM (1lKRm)

297 Hire a cleaning service and deduct it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (xfb67)

Used to be able to get away with that if you itemized, but not any more.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 23, 2021 10:43 AM (Bmy3R)

298
287 284 Popcorn is a good kitty name.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (lPl8I)

========

Just imagine the dad jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:41 AM (LvTSG

A long time ago I named one of my cats, Dammit.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 23, 2021 10:43 AM (Fs5vw)

299 And Sicknick's body had been cremated.

Kind of surprising, considering the cause of death is unknown, and the ME won't release the autopsy report.
Posted by: artemis


Funny how the left always does that.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2021 10:43 AM (90cx5)

300 My DiL has a chihuahua from Tijuana. His name is Thomas but they call him "taco."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:43 AM (2BZBZ)

301 It's not like they know what their name is anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)
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All cats have the same name: "kitty." The "formal name" is really just for record-keeping.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2021 10:43 AM (UZVEt)

302 The Pope needed soldiers to fight the Lombards and Constantinople said "You're on you own."
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (2BZBZ)
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Istanbul. Not Constantinople.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (GLv8N)

303 239 At this point, the alien engineer from Prometheus falling into the Potomac is welcome
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At this point, the alien engineer's ship falling onto the Mall like an asteroid plummeting from orbit is welcome.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (W+kMI)

304 It's not like they know what their name is anyway.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

They know their names. They just choose to ignore you most of the time.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (xfb67)

305 exdem13

For Nuku Nuku Dash did they ever reveal the name of Nuku's sister?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (NHj8C)

306 My wife's cousins had a dog named deeohgee.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (2BZBZ)

307 Chris Hayes
@chrislhayes
This is an under-acknowledged feature of Trump-era right wing politics. Anyone who becomes publicly associated with opposition to his movement faces immediate, serious security concerns. It's widespread.



Name one.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (yQpMk)

308 No, if you are not a resident of OR and you telecommute to a company in that state, you pay taxes only for the days you work in OR.

I usually go into the office one day a year, for a staff meeting. They still take out OR taxes, but I get all of it back except for that one day.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (YynYJ)

309 The easy way to realize this is to count your 2 parents, count their 2 parents, and exponentiate backwards. It doesn't take long for your ancestor count in a generation to exceed the number of people alive. The reason is that you're related to the same people multiple times over.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:13 AM (Zm+LZ)

I do a lot of ancestry.com, and the thing that stands out is how few of a generation typically father or mother most of the next generation. Back on the farm 100 years ago, your great-grandparents had 10 children, but only 2 or 3 of them had large families that became the next generation. The Civil War made a big difference there too - there was a time in the 2nd half of the 19th century where in some places there literally were not enough men to go around, and many women of that generation died without ever having married. And every family had a son of that generation who died in the war. It was that big a demographic event.

So our family trees aren't this uniform exponential expansion process. Between common ancestors and breaks in the line, it's more like a bunch of vines than a tree.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (BMmaB)

310 It was Constantinople at the time.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (2BZBZ)

311 Istanbul. Not Constantinople.


That's nobody's business but the Turks.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (yQpMk)

312 At least Horst Wessel was a Nazi, who died fighting for Naziism.

Sicknick's just some guy who conveniently dropped dead in physical proximity to their immediate needs, and he'll go down in history as a fallen Hero of the State.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (0WKYs)

313
A long time ago I named one of my cats, Dammit.
Posted by: Justsayin' at February 23, 2021 10:43 AM (Fs5vw)


You asked for it.....


https://youtu.be/r6MTTkGsz3E?t=15

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (Zz0t1)

314 If the Shroud of Turin is legit -- which it seems to be -- Jesus took an epic beating during His scourging.

The Roman scourge beat, cut, and ripped tissue -- blunt trauma, incision, and avulsion.

Any Horde doctors, nurses, or EMTs out there? Was Jesus in hypovolemic shock when the scourging was over?
Posted by: callsign claymore

I once saw a show in which some autopsy doctor contended that the Biblical version of the Passion could not be true because if Jesus were whipped 39 times, he could not have survived to be crucified let alone to have born his cross.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (VVEnO)

315 Istanbul. Not Constantinople.
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Puttin on Ritzzz!

Posted by: frankenstein's monster at February 23, 2021 10:46 AM (d6he9)

316 My wife's cousins had a dog named deeohgee.

That's funny.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 23, 2021 10:46 AM (HaL55)

317 304 It's not like they know what their name is anyway.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 23, 2021 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

They know their names. They just choose to ignore you most of the time.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (xfb67)

They know their names, its just that YOU don't know their real names. The arrogance of humans to think they get to name animals!

And don't even get me started on you deciding what pronouns to use!

Posted by: Lefty at February 23, 2021 10:46 AM (oHd/0)

318 https://tinyurl.com/s82fm3ec

Posted by: McCool at February 23, 2021 09:43 AM (BqBIh)

Did the man actually assume most white Christians thought that Jesus looked like a pallid member of the very white Swedish ski team bathed in a bluish white glow-the picture which hangs in many Sunday schools?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2021 10:46 AM (VP4Cd)

319 The do-nut ship rolling towards the Capitol rotunda...

What's the downside again?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:46 AM (NHj8C)

320 312 At least Horst Wessel was a Nazi, who died fighting for Naziism.

I think he really died fighting with his whore girlfriend's landlord. Who had hired some communists to collect the rent.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (xfb67)

321 It was Constantinople at the time.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (2BZBZ)
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*shrugs*
It's nobody's business but the Turks.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (GLv8N)

322 Puttin on Ritzzz!
Posted by: frankenstein's monster at February 23, 2021 10:46 AM (d6he9)
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When the Russian leader visits New York, he stays in nice hotels. Usually, he ends up as "Putin at the Ritz."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (UZVEt)

323 So our family trees aren't this uniform exponential expansion process. Between common ancestors and breaks in the line, it's more like a bunch of vines than a tree.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

And then there's the Bidens. Where the family tree is a stick.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (90cx5)

324 Did the man actually assume most white Christians thought that Jesus looked like a pallid member of the very white Swedish ski team bathed in a bluish white glow-the picture which hangs in many Sunday schools?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2021 10:46 AM (VP4Cd)



They literally don't even know any Christians.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (yQpMk)

325 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. From Michelangelo to pet names. Is there nothing the Horde can't do?
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (axyOa)

326 Me First!

-New York

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2021 10:40 AM (oHd/0)

They came after my father's army pay...in Europe. He was a private, and I'll bet it cost them more to pursue it than they ever would have gotten. But he told them to fuck off, and they got nothing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (Q9lwr)

327 If you ever meet an attractive woman with that combination you'll remember her forever.

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Alexandra Dadsario.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets

Libby G. Oh my. Stupifyingly gorgeous.

And a hell of a nice woman.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (Rvt88)

328 Istanbul. Not Constantinople.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (GLv8N)
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That's nobody's business but the Turks!

Posted by: Doof at February 23, 2021 10:48 AM (SunBL)

329
@chrislhayes
This is an under-acknowledged feature of Trump-era right wing politics. Anyone who becomes publicly associated with opposition to his movement faces immediate, serious security concerns.

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"Immediate, serious security concerns," eh?

I'm guessing some guy in MAGA hat threatened to kick Chris' ass after he found a rat tail in his hotdog.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 10:48 AM (0WKYs)

330 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (Zm+LZ)

Inspector works exclusively for New Mexico schools while living in Texas. We assumed he'd have to pay New Mexico income tax, but the state of Texas told his employer to give him back what had been withheld.

All of a sudden his employer is looking *much* more seriously at moving operations to Texas.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 23, 2021 10:48 AM (1lKRm)

331 314 I once saw a show in which some autopsy doctor contended that the Biblical version of the Passion could not be true because if Jesus were whipped 39 times, he could not have survived to be crucified let alone to have born his cross.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (VVEnO)

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There's a great scene in the movie The Proposition, an Australian western from a decade or so ago.

The local law captures the youngest of several outlaw brothers, and in an effort to incite some action from his older brothers, they decide to whip him 100 times.

We watch in a montage as the count falls away on the soundtrack. The blood mounts. The witnesses, who had started very eager to watch, begin to turn away in disgust. The young man's body slumps, only held up by his hands, tied to the post. The music falls away, and we hear the count again, and it's in the early 20s.

Whipping is an awful punishment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:48 AM (LvTSG)

332 "Fuck you, pay me."
-California
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:38 AM (LvTSG)

California won a court case where they taxed an Arizona script writer who never set foot in California that because his employer was in California, his income was derived from California.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 10:49 AM (BMmaB)

333 The easy way to realize this is to count your 2 parents, count their 2 parents, and exponentiate backwards. It doesn't take long for your ancestor count in a generation to exceed the number of people alive. The reason is that you're related to the same people multiple times over.

****

It's my understanding that the most distant relationship any human has to any other human is 52nd cousin.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:49 AM (yK9py)

334 Never ceases to amaze me how leftard unbelievers love to expound their ignorance concerning Christ and Christians. Its akin to a know it all teenager telling you about the universe because he saw a Star Wars movie. They are so ignorant they don't have any idea of their ignorance. Everything is simple to a simpleton.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 23, 2021 10:49 AM (o2MD2)

335 If you like Mastodon

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Depends on how it's cooked.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:49 AM (VVEnO)

336
I think he really died fighting with his whore girlfriend's landlord. Who had hired some communists to collect the rent.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 10:47 AM (xfb67)

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I didn't know that. Thanks! So I guess it's just the same old play then.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 10:49 AM (0WKYs)

337 The Passion of Jesus Christ. Son of God, is real. It was probably one of the best documented events in history. It was seen by numerous credible witnesses who all recounted almost exactly the same event.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (Ks/+3)

338 California won a court case where they taxed an Arizona script writer who never set foot in California that because his employer was in California, his income was derived from California.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 10:49 AM (BMmaB)
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That's gonna be fun when they decide it applies to everyone in my industry - the gigantic industry of High Tech. Much or most of that industry has HQ in California.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (UZVEt)

339 G'rump928(c) @ 311
Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea @ 321

Fistbump to you both from me @ 328

Horde mind RULEZ!!

Posted by: Doof at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (SunBL)

340 I name our dogs but wife has nicknames for them that stick

Like Kilo, she calls him bunchy

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (6iURM)

341 They literally don't even know any Christians.

****

This.

See also: Work with or live near any black people

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (yK9py)

342 Whipping is an awful punishment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:48


That's why the British Navy generally limited lashings as punishment to 20. Anymore and they might as well have hung the guy because they rarely survived more than 20 lashes.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (JUOKG)

343
So our family trees aren't this uniform exponential expansion process. Between common ancestors and breaks in the line, it's more like a bunch of vines than a tree.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (BMmaB)

Right. The point of the exponentiation is that it produces an impossible result. Your ancestors can't be unrelated, they have to intertwine.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:51 AM (Zm+LZ)

344 Don't actors and everyone else involved in movies need to pay taxes in all 50 states, then?

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:51 AM (yK9py)

345 342 Whipping is an awful punishment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:48

That's why the British Navy generally limited lashings as punishment to 20. Anymore and they might as well have hung the guy because they rarely survived more than 20 lashes.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (JUOKG)

========

Ray Winstone was going to civilize that land.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 23, 2021 10:51 AM (LvTSG)

346 I once saw a show in which some autopsy doctor contended that the Biblical version of the Passion could not be true because if Jesus were whipped 39 times, he could not have survived to be crucified let alone to have born his cross.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (VVEnO)
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I believe a lot of Bible scholars think Jesus, by the time he went to the cross, looked like hamburger that had been hit by a semi.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 10:52 AM (2SdPm)

347 It reminds me of the NY commentator--I forget who--who noted that the top 5 best selling vehicles in the US are all pick up trucks.

But he didn't know anyone who owned a pick up truck, and also thought he didn't know anybody who knew anybody who owned a pick up truck.

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:52 AM (AwPyG)

348 282 It wasn't until Charlemagne that the EO broke with Rome. They were incensed with the Pope. "What about our Emperor?"
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The whole brouhaha was because the Empress Irene came back from retirement to remove her son from power. It was officially an iconoclast/iconophile scrum, but the upshot was that Mother Knows Best, and idiot son is out, maybe the grandson will be better. Neither Charlemagne nor the Pope recognized a woman ruler (100,000 Twitterites just clutched pearls) and the Pope didn't like the circumstances to the coup. So he made Charlemagne Holy Roman emperor, and widower Charlemagne then proposed marriage to widowed Irene, to allegedly re-unite the Roman Empire of old. She turned him down, and in return Charlemagne made a pact with the Abbassid Caliphate. (They sent him an elephant as a present.)

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:52 AM (W+kMI)

349 The easy way to realize this is to count your 2 parents, count their 2 parents, and exponentiate backwards. It doesn't take long for your ancestor count in a generation to exceed the number of people alive. The reason is that you're related to the same people multiple times over.

****

It's my understanding that the most distant relationship any human has to any other human is 52nd cousin.
Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks


I once had a chart on how to count cousins and what once, twice, thrive removed meant.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2021 10:53 AM (90cx5)

350 Did they name the elephant Airbus?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:54 AM (NHj8C)

351 The Romans were experts at whipping. If they wanted you to survive the flogging so they could crucify you, you survived the flogging.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 23, 2021 10:54 AM (o2MD2)

352 341 They literally don't even know any Christians.

****

This.

See also: Work with or live near any black people
Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. And can blue cities be less black? at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (yK9py)

Neither of these are accidents. Remember when Twitter journalists melted down when they were asked if they knew anyone who owned a pickup?

Posted by: Bete at February 23, 2021 10:54 AM (Ojki1)

353 Inspector works exclusively for New Mexico schools while living in Texas. We assumed he'd have to pay New Mexico income tax, but the state of Texas told his employer to give him back what had been withheld.

All of a sudden his employer is looking *much* more seriously at moving operations to Texas.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 23, 2021 10:48 AM (1lKRm)

My figuring from reading online is that I pay taxes in the state I live as well, but I might need to sort out the withholding situation with my employer.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:54 AM (Zm+LZ)

354 G'rump928(c) @ 311
Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea @ 321

Fistbump to you both from me @ 328

Horde mind RULEZ!!
Posted by: Doof at February 23, 2021 10:50 AM (SunBL)
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Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:54 AM (GLv8N)

355 On lineages, years ago, we went to a family reunion of Mrs928's grandmother's people in Georgia. At one point, they put up genealogical charts with an overhead projector (yeah, that long ago). As I was perusing it I noticed one line with familiar names from SC. As it turns out, me and the misses are distant cousins.

I might be a redneck.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:54 AM (yQpMk)

356 It reminds me of the NY commentator--I forget who--who noted that the top 5 best selling vehicles in the US are all pick up trucks.

But he didn't know anyone who owned a pick up truck, and also thought he didn't know anybody who knew anybody who owned a pick up truck.
Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:52 AM (AwPyG)

======================

Craziness! Any New Yorker can affirm that their little island on the Hudson is surely reflective of the TRUE America

Posted by: Doof at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (mZUr4)

357 The easy way to realize this is to count your 2 parents, count their 2
parents, and exponentiate backwards. It doesn't take long for your
ancestor count in a generation to exceed the number of people alive. The
reason is that you're related to the same people multiple times over.


This pretty much 'splains my home state of Alabama.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (HaL55)

358 Damnit, now that Allman Brother song is back.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (xfb67)

359 Anna, his name is Mister Beautiful, so I shall call him that, or Signor Bellissimo.

Maybe I'll call him Fuzz Aldrin.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (Dc2NZ)

360 Istanbul. Not Constantinople.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (GLv8N)
==============

That's nobody's business but the Turks!
Posted by: Doof

Why they changed it I can't say
I guess they liked it better that way.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (VVEnO)

361 285 What are the odds of Biden starting a war and not knowing what he did?
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He won't know, but his puppeteers will know. Maybe. Those idiots didn't understand the Benghazi incident, either.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (W+kMI)

362
1.) Why bother with the compositing? Probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to some academic boffin to come up with a picture that likely looks nothing like the real guy, except that he's clearly Semitic.

2.) All people already knew that. Nobody in "Jesusland" is gonna be surprised by that stunning revelation.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (0WKYs)

363 That's why the British Navy generally limited lashings as punishment to 20. Anymore and they might as well have hung the guy because they rarely survived more than 20 lashes.
Posted by: Mister Scott

Only tangentially related: Can you imagine Captain Ned aboard the Raging Queen being made, or even aired!, today?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2021 10:56 AM (Rvt88)

364 This was the picture SCIENCE used some years ago to show us what Jesus looked like. Umm, we don't have a skull of Jesus. How can you recreate what he looked like?

https://tinyurl.com/uqlpqsnk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2021 10:56 AM (VP4Cd)

365 So Fuzzball

Snobol is such a spasticat I sometimes call him Screwball

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 10:57 AM (NHj8C)

366 There's a famous legal case from the 30's when the heir to the Campbell Soup fortune died. Legally, you have one residence for purposes of estate tax.

He had a house in NY and a house in FLA, and both states stubbornly claimed theirs was the legal "residence"

So the heirs had to pay both states.

Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:57 AM (AwPyG)

367 Hell maybe I should just move to a state with no income tax. Then my worst case scenario is paying one state.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:57 AM (Zm+LZ)

368 305 exdem13

For Nuku Nuku Dash did they ever reveal the name of Nuku's sister?
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You know, I really can't remember. It's been a long time and hundreds of anime stories ago...

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:57 AM (W+kMI)

369 "Jesus had quite the workout program huh?"

Pontius Pilates.

Posted by: SARDiver at February 23, 2021 10:57 AM (HlqFH)

370 Right. The point of the exponentiation is that it produces an impossible result. Your ancestors can't be unrelated, they have to intertwine.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:51 AM (Zm+LZ)

Most of us have ancestors from Great Britain. Around the 18th and 19th Century, there just weren't that many English, Welsh, Scots, and Irish who crossed the ocean. That's a choke point right there. And of course most of them were related to each other.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 10:57 AM (BMmaB)

371 Charlemagne made a pact with the Abbassid Caliphate. (They sent him an elephant as a present.)
Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 10:52 AM (W+kMI)
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And that elephant was named Abul Abbas.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 23, 2021 10:57 AM (GLv8N)

372
This was the picture SCIENCE used some years ago to show us what Jesus looked like. Umm, we don't have a skull of Jesus. How can you recreate what he looked like?

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You can't. That's why this is dumb. People just gettin' paid for nothing. Or, are they saying all thirtysomething Jews look alike to them?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (0WKYs)

373 Craziness! Any New Yorker can affirm that their little island on the Hudson is surely reflective of the TRUE America
Posted by: Doof at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (mZUr4)

And those they don't reflect are simply inbred rednecks.

Posted by: Bete at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (Ojki1)

374 I worked with a Jewish guy once that had jet black hair and bright blue eyes. It was quite striking.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:17 AM

I didn't think that was uncommon?
Posted by: Moonbeam

Lotta Jerry Lewis impersonators ?

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (arJlL)

375 Why they changed it I can't say
I guess they liked it better that way.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (VVEnO)

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Even Old New York was once New Amsterdam

Posted by: Doof at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (mZUr4)

376 Jesus had at least 4 brothers that were mentioned by name in the New Testament and some sisters that weren't named.

Unfortunately, it seems like they only used about a dozen names back then, so it's really confusing.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (xfb67)

377 TheJamesMadison, years ago I read the bio of a British SAS soldier. (For Horde who may not know, SAS are extremely tough men, only 10% or so of candidates pass Selection. They're still the gold standard for Tier 1 units.)

The SAS man in question got in trouble in Singapore or such -- one of those Asian countries where public whipping or caning was the punishment.

That whipping / caning wrecked him. Took him out of commission for awhile.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (DEQ2g)

378 355 On lineages, years ago, we went to a family reunion of Mrs928's grandmother's people in Georgia. At one point, they put up genealogical charts with an overhead projector (yeah, that long ago). As I was perusing it I noticed one line with familiar names from SC. As it turns out, me and the misses are distant cousins.

I might be a redneck.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 10:54 AM (yQpMk)

That's the secret. Everyone is a redneck. But especially the Icelanders.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (Zm+LZ)

379 Iran is now "officially" stopping all inspections of their nuke sites.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 10:59 AM (d6he9)

380 As I was perusing it I noticed one line with familiar names from SC. As it turns out, me and the misses are distant cousins.

Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Me and the lovely wife also. After we were married we compared our mothers' genealogy files. Many, many references to the same folks. Her long distant kin are buried in a graveyard very near my ancestral farm.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2021 10:59 AM (Rvt88)

381 Who stole the Savior's drawers?

Pontius "NoHomos" Pilate

Posted by: DaveA at February 23, 2021 10:59 AM (FhXTo)

382 There's a famous legal case from the 30's when the heir to the Campbell Soup fortune died. Legally, you have one residence for purposes of estate tax.

He had a house in NY and a house in FLA, and both states stubbornly claimed theirs was the legal "residence"

So the heirs had to pay both states.
Posted by: artemis at February 23, 2021 10:57 AM (AwPyG)

Howard Hughes probably died in Mexico, but he was pronounced dead when his plane landed in Houston. Texas and Nevada fought over his estate, and Texas won, even though he had lived in Las Vegas all those years, because he "died" in Texas.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 10:59 AM (BMmaB)

383
That whipping / caning wrecked him. Took him out of commission for awhile.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (DEQ2g)
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That son of the ambassador should have gotten his, rather than Billy Jeff intervening.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 10:59 AM (2SdPm)

384 Is Caravaggio the greatest artist of all time?

I don't know but I'm willing to entertain the claim.

Stunning work

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 23, 2021 11:00 AM (uxJPn)

385
2.) All people already knew that. Nobody in "Jesusland" is gonna be surprised by that stunning revelation.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 10:55 AM (0WKYs)

Those "My boss is a Jewish Carpenter" bumperstickers cause so many accidents when the rubes think about it.
/

Posted by: Bete at February 23, 2021 11:00 AM (Ojki1)

386 calling Grohe

gonna try and score some replacement spray heads

they're fuckers

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 11:00 AM (6iURM)

387 Ape the Younger.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 11:00 AM (yQpMk)

388 295 @chrislhayes
This is an under-acknowledged feature of Trump-era right wing politics. Anyone who becomes publicly associated with opposition to his movement faces immediate, serious security concerns. It's widespread. ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:37 AM (VVEnO)
++++
The lack of self-awareness there is just staggering.
Posted by: Joe Mannix



He knows what he is saying. He wants his enemies rounded up and eliminated, for the Greater Good.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2021 11:00 AM (45ORV)

389 Not OT: Aussie scientists discover a 17,300-year-old painting of a kangaroo, the country's oldest known rock art.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 09:38 AM (d6he9)

These kinds of announcements annoy me.
I call BS.
Scientists! Heh. How do they know?
That drawing isn't a day older than 17,200 years.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2021 11:01 AM (axyOa)

390
Jesus had at least 4 brothers that were mentioned by name in the New Testament and some sisters that weren't named.

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Moshe ben Yosef tried unsuccessfully to peddle Moshe Beer.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2021 11:01 AM (0WKYs)

391 I believe a lot of Bible scholars think Jesus, by the time he went to the cross, looked like hamburger that had been hit by a semi.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 10:52 AM (2SdPm)

If Christ's resurrected body still had the open wounds of the nails and spear, do you think He also had the wounds from the scourging? I don't see why not.

Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 11:01 AM (OyyDO)

392 379 Iran is now "officially" stopping all inspections of their nuke sites.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 10:59 AM (d6he9)
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Biden: Mission accomplished. Pudding for everyone!

Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2021 11:02 AM (G0vdT)

393 He knows what he is saying. He wants his enemies rounded up and eliminated, for the Greater Good.
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2021 11:00 AM (45ORV)
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Or, the dimwit is vaguely aware that if the left keeps pushing, he's not nearly as well protected as he may think.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 11:02 AM (2SdPm)

394 Do I have to shout Monkey again?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 11:02 AM (yQpMk)

395 Don' spend a lot of time on it. Binged watched Nuku Nuku Dash. Bailed on the TV series because it was so dumb and always had to throw up cue-cards to tell the audience who was who which Yashahime, Princess Half-Demon the 'sequel' to Inu-yasha does also which annoys me, if you don't know the characters after three episodes you not paying attention.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2021 11:02 AM (NHj8C)

396 Hell maybe I should just move to a state with no income tax. Then my worst case scenario is paying one state.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy


Texas would be glad to have you.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2021 11:03 AM (90cx5)

397 But especially the Icelanders.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:58 AM (Zm+LZ)

The New York and New Jersey Dutch are all cousins. All of them. Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt were fairly close cousins, but there was a time when they just did not marry anyone who was not also Dutch. So if you know anyone with New York or New Jersey Dutch ancestry, they are certainly related to the Roosevelts, the Vanderbilts, the Stuyvesants, etc.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 11:03 AM (BMmaB)

398 I don't like to make recommendations but AMC was up throughout the NASDAQ pounding that was this morning's open. Seems a very cheap value buy with nothing but good news ahead for it.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2021 11:04 AM (/MaDp)

399 If Christ's resurrected body still had the open wounds of the nails and spear, do you think He also had the wounds from the scourging? I don't see why not.
Posted by: Kris at February 23, 2021 11:01 AM (OyyDO)
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No idea. I suspect, though, He kept the nail holes and the spear wound, because Thomas specifically mentioned needing to see and touch those wounds in order to believe.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 11:05 AM (2SdPm)

400 I once had a chart on how to count cousins and what once, twice, thrive removed meant.
Posted by: rickb223


Easy enough. If you and I are cousins, my kids are your first cousins once removed, my grandkids are your first cousins twice removed, etc. Your kids and my kids are second cousins. Your grandkids and my grandkids are third cousins.

Your kids and my grandkids are second cousins once removed.

Every time you add a generation on only one side, it's another level of "times removed", and if you add a generation on both sides, it's another level of "Nth cousin".

Double cousins, half cousins and double-half cousins are the tricky ones.

Posted by: mikeski at February 23, 2021 11:05 AM (P1f+c)

401 396 Hell maybe I should just move to a state with no income tax. Then my worst case scenario is paying one state.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

doesn't your taxes in one state knock out the other ?

always worked for me, paying in CT while living in MA

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 11:05 AM (6iURM)

402 Texas would be glad to have you.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2021 11:03 AM (90cx5)

Interestingly, for business income tax (called franchise tax), Texas claims all worldwide revenues for any company registered to do business in Texas, then allows them to exclude revenues they can prove they made outside the state. Same as New York and California.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 11:05 AM (BMmaB)

403 294 The Pope needed soldiers to fight the Lombards and Constantinople said "You're on you own."
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Interestingly enough in the time of Justinian the Great (when Rome was still part of the Eastern Empire) the Pope, whose Orthodox title was Patriarch of Rome, was summoned to attend the council that declared the Monophysite Christians to be heretics. The Pope objected, saying in effect to outright condemn so many people as heretics without attempting to reconcile or persuade them back to orthodoxy was setting a bad precedent. This was borne out not only in the time of Charlemagne, but in the early 11th century where the Catholic Church officially separated itself from Eastern Orthodoxy, declaring it schismatic. Nearly a thousand years later the breach still exists.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 11:05 AM (W+kMI)

404 396 Hell maybe I should just move to a state with no income tax. Then my worst case scenario is paying one state.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy


Texas would be glad to have you.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2021 11:03 AM (90cx5)

I'll even sell you my TX birth certificate

I'll throw in the criminal record for free

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 11:06 AM (6iURM)

405 I know not to ask.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2021 11:07 AM (Xih1H)

406 Any good torture is specifically designed and applied to keep the subject alive to feel the pain.

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2021 11:07 AM (RuIsu)

407 doesn't your taxes in one state knock out the other ?

always worked for me, paying in CT while living in MA
Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 11:05 AM (6iURM)

It depends. If the tax rate is higher in one state than another, they may give you credit for taxes paid to another state, but still tax the difference.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 11:07 AM (BMmaB)

408 351 The Romans were experts at whipping. If they wanted you to survive the
flogging so they could crucify you, you survived the flogging.

practice makes prefect

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 23, 2021 11:07 AM (v3pYe)

409 Free speech doesn't include yelling "monkey!" in a crowded thread.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2021 11:07 AM (d6he9)

410 Nood gorilla

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 11:08 AM (BMmaB)

411 It depends. If the tax rate is higher in one state than another, they may give you credit for taxes paid to another state, but still tax the difference.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 11:07 AM (BMmaB)

yeah but you don't pay the full amount twice, right

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 11:08 AM (6iURM)

412 268 Anybody know the tax implications of remote work from another state?

20 bucks. Same as in a town?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 23, 2021 11:08 AM (gf79Z)

413 yeah but you don't pay the full amount twice, right
Posted by: REDACTED

afaik it cand epend on WHICH states are involved
some states (usually adjacent one) have "play nice" rules while others do not GAF pay now

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 23, 2021 11:10 AM (nUhF0)

414 yeah but you don't pay the full amount twice, right
Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2021 11:08 AM (6iURM)
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It depends: Did the tax adjustor just break up with his husband? Did Adjustor Sue leave Adjustor Sally for Adjustor Frederica, soon to be Adjustor Fred?

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 11:10 AM (2SdPm)

415 334 Never ceases to amaze me how leftard unbelievers love to expound their ignorance concerning Christ and Christians.
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To trip a Leftard up tell them the story of the denarius. They won't get it.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 11:10 AM (W+kMI)

416 343
So our family trees aren't this uniform exponential expansion process. Between common ancestors and breaks in the line, it's more like a bunch of vines than a tree.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2021 10:44 AM (BMmaB)

Right. The point of the exponentiation is that it produces an impossible result. Your ancestors can't be unrelated, they have to intertwine.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 10:51 AM

Doing Ancestry is amazing! It's the first time you might realize that you have 16 great-great grandfathers and mothers. 32 3x-greatgrandfathers!

Posted by: Moonbeam at February 23, 2021 11:11 AM (qe5CM)

417 403 This was borne out not only in the time of Charlemagne, but in the early 11th century where the Catholic Church officially separated itself from Eastern Orthodoxy, declaring it schismatic. Nearly a thousand years later the breach still exists.
Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 11:05 AM (W+kMI)

Other way around. The tl;dr is that the Byzantine emperors finally formalized what had long been informal in the East, the supremacy of the emperor over the Church. Identifying the Roman empire(as they saw themselves) with the Kingdom of God was commonplace. They deposed and appointed at will(essentially a papal investiture controversy). The Ottomans later continued this practice, which is how they got the Patriarch of Constantinople to endorse their rule.

Constantinople was also elevated in the first place by the Eastern emperors even though it didn't really have religious significance other than the empire/kingdom of God connection. The other seats were the Three Petrine Sees and Jerusalem.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at February 23, 2021 11:12 AM (Zm+LZ)

418 381 Who stole the Savior's drawers?



Pontius "NoHomos" Pilate

phase 1: collect underpants
phase 2: ???
phase 3: profit! religion!

Posted by: Underpants Gnomes at February 23, 2021 11:12 AM (v3pYe)

419 Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 11:10 AM (W+kMI)

Which denarius story? There were at least three, with very different points, that I can remember.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 23, 2021 11:13 AM (1lKRm)

420 Well, time to wander. Doggies need a morning saunter and I need to spend a bunch of cash at the local lumber warehouse.

Later!

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 23, 2021 11:13 AM (2SdPm)

421 Most of us have ancestors from Great Britain. Around the 18th and 19th Century, there just weren't that many English, Welsh, Scots, and Irish who crossed the ocean. That's a choke point right there. And of course mst of them were related to each other.
Posted by: Caesar North

The group crossing the Cumberland Gap was even smaller

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2021 11:14 AM (Xih1H)

422 346 I once saw a show in which some autopsy doctor contended that the Biblical version of the Passion could not be true because if Jesus were whipped 39 times, he could not have survived to be crucified let alone to have born his cross.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2021 10:45 AM (VVEnO)
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I believe a lot of Bible scholars think Jesus, by the time he went to the cross, looked like hamburger that had been hit by a semi.
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It's worth noting that Jesus collapsed while carrying his cross, and Simon of Cyrenia was pulled from the crowd and made to assist him. Probably after he dared to comment on the unfairness of making a suffering man carry his own cross. The centurion prob'ly said "Alright you bleeding heart, if you like him you can help him."

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 11:15 AM (W+kMI)

423 351 The Romans were experts at whipping. If they wanted you to survive the flogging so they could crucify you, you survived the flogging.
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Pilate's treatment of Jesus is not much different from standard Roman punishments. Pilate had Jesus flogged to loosen his tongue and make a statement, and to appease the mob. When that didn't work, he had Jesus publicly mocked and shamed by the cohort, which was a standard punishment for troublemakers who hadn't committed outright treason or rebellion, or who just didn't seem to merit the axe/cross. "Ecce homo!" in other Roman courts would've resulted in the crowd jeering and mocking the accused, pretty much letting the air out of the person so mocked. But the crowd that day had been whipped into lynch mob frenzy and wanted blood, so Pilate washed his hands of it. He let the sentence on the placard stand, though.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 23, 2021 11:22 AM (W+kMI)

424 But the crowd that day had been whipped into lynch mob frenzy and wanted blood,

Trump was there and had access to Parler?

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2021 11:33 AM (Xih1H)

425 It was a mostly peaceful crucifixion.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2021 11:34 AM (yQpMk)

426 Jesus Christ was an armed insurrectionist. Right?
I love Caravaggio.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 23, 2021 12:27 PM (Mzdiz)

427 It may seem trivial, but after I watched The Passion of the The Christ, the scourge and crucification took on a new reality and significance. Who would willingly do this for us... for me?
Posted by: LASue, aka Les White at February 23, 2021 09:51 AM (Ed8Zd)


It is humbling to realize that He was the Lamb of God.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 23, 2021 12:28 PM (YQ4mh)

428 Hot Jesus!

Posted by: Bilwick at February 23, 2021 03:16 PM (Fvd0L)

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