Why Are the Feds Hiding Brian Sicknick's Medical Report?

I have a theory: they're hiding it because the medical report says he died of a stroke, and suffered no injuries at all (that is, the stroke was not caused by the riots), and the feds are hiding this fact until their Democrat allies have their show trial for Trump.

Read this great article from Revolver.

I'm excerpting some but you should read it in context because he includes screencaps of media coverage which I'm not duplicating.

Narrative 1:0: The Brazen Lie
The day after Sicknick's reported death, depraved toilet paper company and full-time libel factory known as The New York Times jumbo-tronned a massive, howler headline, later confirmed to be a Judith Miller-level damn dirty lie.
Narrative 1.0 absolutely saturated the airwaves, editorials, and social media. Every MSM outlet from USAToday to the NY Post to the Daily Dot repeated that Sicknick was "bludgeoned by a fire extinguisher." Not "sources say." Not "many believe" -- just a totally unqualified, unequivocal statement of fact.
In an unforgivable shocker, the House Trial Memorandum itself, which sets forth the very impeachment charges for which the 45th President stands accused, names Trump liable for "insurrectionists" that "killed a Capitol police officer by striking him in the head with a fire extinguisher." Their source? The New York Times.
But the toilet paper Times left a real stinker inside this one. Because every claim they made, every detail conveyed, was a lie.
Law enforcement officials now tell CNN that there was no fire extinguisher blow, no bloody gash, and no blunt force trauma to Sicknick's body when he died.
Not only that, but it is increasingly unclear when, where and if Sicknick was even rushed to the hospital.
As it turns out, multiple hours after the protest had already concluded, Sicknick texted his own brother Ken that very night he was basically fine, other than being "pepper sprayed twice," confirming he was safe and "in good shape."

Revolver then relays a strange detail: Sicknick's family was called on the phone Wednesday night and told, falsely, that Sicknick had died.

These calls were placed by the media.

Read the article for that.

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Ken Sicknick had been told his brother collapsed inside the Capitol building, then was rushed to the hospital...
But the US Capitol Police's statement that night told a different story: he had returned to his office at the police division first.
Sometime between Sicknick being fine, healthy, and back in his office on Wednesday night, and dead or effectively dead on early Thursday evening, Sicknick apparently suffered a stroke. The sequence of when and how that happened should be the easiest part of this story to put to bed. And yet we are being told to take this faith -- or as the media likes to say: "without evidence."

Note that the bit about the stroke seems like speculation, but so what? The whole claim that Sicknick was "murdered" and had a "gash on his head" from being battered with a fire extinguisher was speculation, rumor, and Twitter bullshit.

The New York Times made up a lie -- or claimed they "verified" a fact, when in fact all they'd done is regurgitate TWITINT.

TWITINT is "Twitter intel." Because so much of our "journalism" and even government intelligence is now based exclusively on something someone saw @RangersFan69 said on Twitter, we should have a name for it.

TWITINT: It sometimes looks like real intelligence, except, gotcha!, it's just Twitter idiots, twittering nonsense.

4 Fortified facts don't need to be verified!
Posted by: The NYT

Meanwhile, Government Propagandist Andy McCarthy -- who has such a child-like understanding of the world that he believes that because he's not corrupt (according to his own self-evaluation), then no one in the government could possibly be corrupt -- continues insisting that Sicknick was "murdered," and a case can be made "without any ambiguity" that the president is guilty of conspiracy to commit this "murder."

As Sicknick case remains unsolved and totally devoid of evidence so far, let’s recall that National Review wanted to make him the face of impeachment: pic.twitter.com/TU3NjTqs48
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) February 10, 2021

Now, McCarthy based that, probably, on the New York Times claim.

But now that the New York Times claim is known to be based on nothing but Twitter rumors and leftwing hopes and dreams -- where is the retraction? Where is the apology?

Where is the blistering attack on the Times for shitting out propagandistic lies, yet again? Where is the calling out of the New York Times for deliberately lying, "without any ambiguity"?

Why, it's almost as if... as if... National Review knows that their leftwing media allies are lying, but choose to repeat those lies anyway, because they're all on the same side now.

Former federal prosecutor, everyone.

Former federal prosecutor.

You really want that "shoot from the hip," "YOLO" style in someone who can literally have you put to death.

Posted by: Ace at 12:11 PM

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1 Carping?

Heh!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2021 12:12 PM (bbSla)

2 Why are they hiding shit? Cuz they can.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2021 12:12 PM (F0YaR)

3 top 5

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 10, 2021 12:12 PM (8D42x)

4 Fortified facts don't need to be verified!

Posted by: The NYT at February 10, 2021 12:12 PM (fFtVH)

5 Oops. Wrong thread.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2021 12:12 PM (bbSla)

6 Ace, you saw the affidavit, right? 20lb fire extinguisher video game physics:

"The object appears to strike one officer, who was wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets and strikes another officer, who was not wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets a third time and strikes a third officer, wearing a helmet, in the head."

Posted by: Mr. Gray #33 at February 10, 2021 12:13 PM (HBEnm)

7 What did Ashli die of?

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:14 PM (uEbPt)

8 >>>4 Fortified facts don't need to be verified!
Posted by: The NYT

haha

Posted by: ace at February 10, 2021 12:14 PM (5+1A/)

9 TWITINT is "Twitter intel."

It should be 'TAINT'. Not sure how to make it work, though.

Posted by: t-bird at February 10, 2021 12:15 PM (B2mhs)

10 9 TWITINT is "Twitter intel."

It should be 'TAINT'. Not sure how to make it work, though.
Posted by: t-bird at February 10, 2021 12:15 PM (B2mhs)

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Twitter Approved INTel

Posted by: No One of Consequence at February 10, 2021 12:15 PM (CAJOC)

11 Some people will do just about anything to get their family to a Superb Owl.

(Yep, probably too soon).

Posted by: Sharkman at February 10, 2021 12:16 PM (0bGEp)

12 Why was Bruce Springsteen busted for DUI and reckless driving on Nov. 14 in NJ, and the news is just now out, AFTER his SB ad ran?

Cuz they can. Why has Ashli Babbit's murderer still not been IDed? Cuz they can.

I can play this game all day long.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2021 12:16 PM (F0YaR)

13 And I'm still going with Ashli having been assassinated by a congressman.

Posted by: clutch cargo | with concentrated China Virus stain fighters at February 10, 2021 12:16 PM (46GDR)

14 Nothing from the govt or media is real anymore.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 10, 2021 12:16 PM (DAWrM)

15 ACE

ace, you posted a four frame comic the other night. It was a fierce, powerful female basketball player rushing the net, with a thought bubble above her that said "this is my moment, no woman can stop me" and the last frame is a huge man with breast implants and long hair blocking her.

Can you please tell me the name of the strip or artist? I closed the tab and can't find it again.

Posted by: Mr. Gray #33 at February 10, 2021 12:17 PM (HBEnm)

16 NYT: The lying rag that print liars lies.

Posted by: dantesed at February 10, 2021 12:17 PM (88xKn)

17 They needed a Lamb to Sacrifice.

That is why.

They put him to lay 'In State' in the rotunda!

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2021 12:17 PM (joC3p)

18 The headlines that Googlebitch highlights when you search for Ashli refer to her as "Trump and QAnon supporter" and call it a "Coup Attempt" and a "Riot". This is probably old news. I have been shielding myself.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:17 PM (uEbPt)

19 6 Ace, you saw the affidavit, right? 20lb fire extinguisher video game physics:

"The object appears to strike one officer, who was wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets and strikes another officer, who was not wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets a third time and strikes a third officer, wearing a helmet, in the head."
Posted by: Mr. Gray #33 at February 10, 2021 12:13 PM (HBEnm)

========

Yes, this is how physics works.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 10, 2021 12:17 PM (NWM+b)

20 Orwell totally underestimated what an authoritarian government is capable of when partnered with a compliant corporate media.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 10, 2021 12:17 PM (gDJlP)

21 Obviously we liked being lied to. It's been happening since 2000.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 10, 2021 12:17 PM (jvt6t)

22 It should be 'TAINT'. Not sure how to make it work, though.
Posted by: t-bird at February 10, 2021 12:15 PM (B2mhs)

Twitter-Anointed (or Annotated) Intelligence?

Posted by: Thrawn at February 10, 2021 12:17 PM (MBy9l)

23 Fortified facts don't need to be verified!

Posted by: The NYT at February 10, 2021

Fortyfive facts do either.

Posted by: Maxine Waters at February 10, 2021 12:18 PM (EajDl)

24 Read the content.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 10, 2021 12:18 PM (8MsPM)

25 Willowed-
Trump is now under Criminal investigation in Georgia for 'solicitation of election fraud' and other charges-

tinyurl.com/2n4jad3l

Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2021 12:18 PM (NpAcC)

26 >>Why was Bruce Springsteen busted for DUI and reckless driving on Nov. 14 in NJ, and the news is just now out, AFTER his SB ad ran?

Didn't one of the Chiefs Coaches (Andy Reid's other son) have a DUI nights before the SB?

I think he almost killed a couple of toddlers on an on-ramp while driving under the influence of Adderall and Alcohol?

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2021 12:18 PM (joC3p)

27

No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 10, 2021 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

28 Ugh, always get Willowed... I made a really funny meme of jaime raskin crying. Is there any way to get it to the bloggers???

Posted by: KarlHungus at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (PrMxI)

29 >>It should be 'TAINT'. Not sure how to make it work, though.

Who Does TAINT Work For?

Posted by: Austen Powers at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (joC3p)

30 The guvmint and media lie 24/7.

Believe nothing they tell you.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (Qm/Qo)

31 Posted by: Mr. Gray #33 at February 10, 2021 12:13 PM (HBEnm)

Magic loogie?

Posted by: Bosk at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (SWbVS)

32 Can anyone who was ever associated w the DOJ not be viewed w suspicion? I even wonder about former US Attorney and Congressman Ratcliffe who failed to produce much once appointed to ODNI.

Posted by: EveR at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (R0z7P)

33 Was this the same officer that they had lying in State at the Capital? I have not followed this closely. Why would the family consent to that if indeed he had died of natural causes at a later time?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (45fpk)

34 Trump is now under Criminal investigation in Georgia for 'solicitation of election fraud' and other charges-

Oh FFS.... I guess they want to totally ruin him

Posted by: It's me donna at February 10, 2021 12:20 PM (Zmnko)

35 Remember how fast they leaped on the "Covington Kids are horrible" bandwagon over at NRO then never apologized?

TWINT works better for me, by the way.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:20 PM (KZzsI)

36 Why would the family consent to that if indeed he had died of natural causes at a later time?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (45fpk)

Why not?

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2021 12:20 PM (AwYPR)

37 Ashli Babbit was the only person killed in the Capital that day. And she was executed by a state actor.

All the news we get is now propaganda. The sad reality is most Americans believe it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, registered Independent at February 10, 2021 12:20 PM (euCiN)

38 I have a theory: they're hiding it because the medical report says he died of a stroke, and suffered no injuries at all (that is, the stroke was not caused by the riots), and the feds are hiding this fact until their Democrat allies have their show trial for Trump.

I think that this is basically correct.

The left wants to punish Trump for daring to get involved in politics, and in the process making them look like fools. The establishment right wants the same thing, as well as hoping that once Trump is gone things will go back to the way that they were before. They're hoping that the show trial is enough to eliminate support for Trump among the GOP base and blue-collar workers, especially thin-blue-line type folks.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (jOcSX)

39 Was this the same officer that they had lying in State at the Capital? I have not followed this closely. Why would the family consent to that if indeed he had died of natural causes at a later time?
Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (45fpk)

****

Yeah, go ahead and tell the FBI no.

Nice car your kid is driving. Hope he's careful!

Posted by: Mr. Gray #33 at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (HBEnm)

40 I guess they want to totally ruin him

I don't know if its guilty conscience about the fraud, fear that they'll be exposed and him returned to office somehow, seething eternal hate, or a combination somehow but they're out to get him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (KZzsI)

41 Why not?

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2021 12:20 PM (AwYPR)

Embarrassment?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (45fpk)

42 Things That We're About To Discover Before Being Forbidden To Ever Talk About Them Again(tm):

1. Mr. Sicknick is still very much alive;

2. He was never anywhere near the "Capitol" "Insurrection";

3. Every single person in DC and in the MSM knows these two facts, yet like the Russia Hoax, which every single person in DC and in the MSM knew was a Yuge Lie, everyone will stick to their narrative Because Orange Man Bad.

I am that cynical.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (0bGEp)

43 What did Ashli die of?
Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:14 PM (uEbPt)

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Lead Posioning.

Which is why we need to triple the EPA's funding.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (dq/O2)

44 24 Read the content.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 10, 2021 12:18 PM (8MsPM)

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (NWM+b)

45 32 Can anyone who was ever associated w the DOJ not be viewed w suspicion? I even wonder about former US Attorney and Congressman Ratcliffe who failed to produce much once appointed to ODNI.
Posted by: EveR at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (R0z7P)

but, we Hannity said that 90% of the FBI and DOJ are heroic goody guys!

Like Comey, and Sessions, and Barr, and Rosenstein and..

Ok, shit, I'll shut up now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (oHd/0)

46 Bruuuuce will face no consequences for his DUI. Just like illegals who drink and drive are let go without so much as a ticket. On the other hand I have a friend who was busted for a DUI. Not defending his actions. But he spent a ton of money on a lawyer and ended up with a huge fine, his insurance premium skyrocketed and he had to do community service. Plus he was told by the judge if he has another DUI he will do serious jail time. My friend is a tax paying American citizen and a nobody. In other words the enemy of government.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 10, 2021 12:22 PM (DAWrM)

47 too fucking late, it doesn't matter anymore. the damage has been done. the lie was out there before he was cold. and that's all people will remember. mostly because there won't be a retraction. but even if there was it would be buried in the bottom of section F, page 7, in 5 point font.

It's like Ashley Babbit's murder. we don't know ANYTHING about the "cop" that killed her. and they arne't going to let us know until 5 or 6 years down the line when the "insurrection investigation" wraps up and it's a footnote at the bottom of page 4,387.

I was actually shocked when Ingram, yeah i know - let it go, asked a couple of congress guests last night why we don't know ANYTHING about it. and they avoided answering any part of the query, and she let it go, like a good like left winger...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 10, 2021 12:22 PM (8D42x)

48 Andy McCarthy successfully prosecuted the guy who admitted to bombing the WTC.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at February 10, 2021 12:22 PM (VbI7r)

49 What I don't get is that the story that he had died of an unrelated medical condition, as well as his communication with family came out within maybe 4 days after the incident, max.

Ok, nevermind, I get it, but come on.

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 12:22 PM (8Xolh)

50 Another Wuhan death. It's sad, really.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 10, 2021 12:22 PM (ifmtJ)

51 What did Ashli die of?
Posted by: ...

Lead poisoning.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:22 PM (fjZl+)

52 Why would the family consent to that if indeed he had died of natural causes at a later time?
Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2021 12:19 PM (45fpk)
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Yes, he was lying in State. I think the families get "coerced" into doing such things. I can think of other cases where the facts have been hidden, but won't go into it here.

Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2021 12:23 PM (S1hrL)

53 40 I guess they want to totally ruin him

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They can and will. Meanwhile a lot of people will wring their hands and say, "why doesn't someone DO something!!"

The Leftists are doing something.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 10, 2021 12:23 PM (jvt6t)

54 Some people will do just about anything to get their family to a Superb Owl.

(Yep, probably too soon).
Posted by: Sharkman at February 10, 2021 12:16 PM (0bGEp)

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I dunno. He aint buried yet.

The family goes to the super bowl.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 12:23 PM (dq/O2)

55 Maybe my sleepy little GA town would like to reconsider flying the city hall flags at half staff to honor Officer Danish and the other murderers?

Nah?

Posted by: MJ at February 10, 2021 12:23 PM (gAMkn)

56 Speaking of, when is the DOJ going to get to the bottom of the Las Vegas mass shooting?
What's that?
Never?
Ah, I see...I see...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 10, 2021 12:23 PM (ifmtJ)

57 51 What did Ashli die of?
Posted by: ...

Lead poisoning.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:22 PM (fjZl+)

/looks at the Covid 19 death list.

Nope, not lead poisoning.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 10, 2021 12:23 PM (oHd/0)

58 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (KZzsI)

It's the same as RUSSIA apparently. A way to subordinate him and keep him on defense. And I guess it's gonna be forever.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:23 PM (uEbPt)

59 I used to beleive the FBI was full of straight shooters who fought for justice and were the one branch of the law you could go to when your local police were corrupt. Sure, I heard stories of how they were sloppy or stupid or even bent, but I disregarded them. This was the cream of the crop, the Top Men.

Now I'm wondering if they were ever any good, or have always been rule-bending, sloppy, corrupt, and unjust. If the Whitey Bulger corruption wasn't par for the course rather than just things spinning out of control.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

60 All the news we get is now propaganda. The sad reality is most Americans believe it.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, registered Independent at February 10, 2021 12:20 PM (euCiN)

Yup. Even my lifelong friend, who usually seems level-headed. We're both Iced Earth fans, but when he heard that founding member Jon Schaffer was there and was subsequently arrested in Indiana, friend said "good. Let him rot." We're fucking losing this battle.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Being Moar Dumber at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (x8Wzq)

61 If these people really believed that Trump tried to stage an insurrection, and that he's guilty of murder, then they would be doing more than Shampeachment 2: Electcuck Bogaloo

Posted by: Josephistan at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (+WBw/)

62 Springsteen DUI? Was that stupid jeep ad from a police dash-cam? Explains alot...

Posted by: pahound at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (/KbAv)

63 I would be willing to bet Sicknick didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (J6Fgy)

64 Andy McCarthy gets far too much attention for being a legal anal-ist as Mark Levin is fond of saying.

Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (S1hrL)

65 McCarthy really does have the real-world instincts of a 13-yr old on many matters. Pathetic.

And besides aggressively - and vituperatively - trashing the idiotic claim that a conventional rally speech from Trump caused a few dozen professional s**t-stirrers and idiots to cause a brief rumble on the Hill, Trump's team in the "impeachment" damn well better document the YEARS of disgusting hateful crude *actual incitement* of serious deadly destructive violence by some of the garbage sitting in the Senate, and the current VP just months ago.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (OTzUX)

66 Poor guy probably didn't die in a way that supports The Narrative.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (0gppH)

67 Now I'm wondering if they were ever any good, or have always been rule-bending, sloppy, corrupt, and unjust. If the Whitey Bulger corruption wasn't par for the course rather than just things spinning out of control.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

The FBI was corrupt from inception. That's why the FBI director is the only unelected position with term limits.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (1ISKN)

68 We're screwed. That's the bottom line. Trump had one fatal flaw: he trusted the wrong people. I just cannot understand how a man who spent i-don't-know years in New York real estate development could blow this so bloody badly.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (yTN5S)

69 61 If these people really believed that Trump tried to stage an insurrection, and that he's guilty of murder, then they would be doing more than Shampeachment 2: Electcuck Bogaloo
Posted by: Josephistan at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (+WBw/)

Better... an insurrection is a violent uprising against a government.

TRUMP WAS THE GOVERNMENT.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (oHd/0)

70 If the cop dies while on duty his family gets a lot more insurance money. So of course they will go along with the lie.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (DAWrM)

71 Everything out of DC is a lie including "the" and "and."

Posted by: mr tmz at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (m/Gc2)

72 Officer Danish is a victim of the Hogg-Smollett rule.

When a leftist claims to be the victim of political violence, no such violence actually occurred.

Posted by: MJ at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (gAMkn)

73
"Andy McCarthy successfully prosecuted the guy who admitted to bombing the WTC."

I laughed but we sometimes forget how many terrorist cases the DOJ completely botched back then. So getting a convection after a confession was pretty big deal for the DOJ.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (qH6FZ)

74 I don't feel safe, and I won't feel safe until the NYT is destroyed and can no longer incite violence with false stories.

Posted by: Greg61 at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (FvHZ4)

75 we all knew it was a LIE because after the initial barrage of "Murder, bloody murder', we got NO DETAILS. Everything that happened on Jan 6th was on video, Yet, no video was released. When we got the funeral, we got no Details. What could have been more damaging to Trump then video of a policeman being MURDERED? Yet, instead of showing it on a endless loop, CNN and the media showed us NOTHING.

Posted by: rcocean at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (evE25)

76 Embarrassment?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (45fpk)

Not as long as karaoke bars exist.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (AwYPR)

77 slain. they're now claiming he was slain. with the phone call falsely telling his family he was dead, I'm coming around to this opinion too.

Posted by: x4 at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (oA+QO)

78 Cuz they can.

I can play this game all day long.
Posted by: GnuBreed

Twenty, thirty years in a nutshell right there.

Posted by: t-bird at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (lIIT7)

79 At least the original Horst Wessel was killed in the line of duty. And the original Reichstag actually burned. We're going to be rounded uo because of a bad Hollywood feature when the only people actually *kilked* were Trump supporters.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (1lKRm)

80 Is it State or Federal after PDT in GA?

Posted by: EveR at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (R0z7P)

81 Revolver then relays a strange detail: Sicknick's family was called on the phone Wednesday night and told, falsely, that Sicknick had died.

These calls were placed by the media.

Now I have to wonder whether Sicknick wasn't in fact murdered, by the Deep State.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (yQpMk)

82 68 We're screwed. That's the bottom line. Trump had one fatal flaw: he trusted the wrong people. I just cannot understand how a man who spent i-don't-know years in New York real estate development could blow this so bloody badly.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at February 10, 2021 12:25 PM (yTN5S)

They stripped him of his loyal team early on, by the DOJ prosecuting anyone loyal to Trump.

Look at Gen. Flynn. Look at Manafort.

They used the Power of Law, to scare any real Trump supporters away from working for him... Trump had to use what was left.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (oHd/0)

83 *Killed* dammit. I can (mostly) spell, but it would be hard to prove.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2021 12:27 PM (1lKRm)

84 We're screwed. That's the bottom line. Trump had one fatal flaw: he trusted the wrong people
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Who are the right people?

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:27 PM (uEbPt)

85 The FBI was corrupt from inception. That's why the FBI director is the only unelected position with term limits.

Hoover was definitely a mess, but he didn't seem so much corrupted as power mad and monomaniacal. That is, he wanted to get the bad guys, fight communism, and save America, but that he was too willing to do anything it took and was more interested in himself and his power than anything else.

I mean I think he justified it by saying he was only doing what he had to and was forced to it by the bad guys but ultimately it was just about himself and his crazed need for power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:27 PM (KZzsI)

86 68

Trump spent all hat time as the head of a company. People did what he said because that is how the business world works. CEO says jump underlings say how high. He wrongly assumed govt works like that. And in 4 years he still didnt learn it doesnt.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 10, 2021 12:27 PM (DAWrM)

87 Is it State or Federal after PDT in GA?

Fulton County DA

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2021 12:27 PM (yQpMk)

88 Lawyers joke that politically ambitious C students become prosecutors. That probably overstates Andy McCarthy's ambition and ability though.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (H5knJ)

89 84 We're screwed. That's the bottom line. Trump had one fatal flaw: he trusted the wrong people

I mostly blame McConnell.. Slimy bastard

Posted by: It's me donna at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (Zmnko)

90 Woah.

Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (ofYez)

91 hings That We're About To Discover Before Being Forbidden To Ever Talk About Them Again(tm):

1. Mr. Sicknick is still very much alive;
2. He was never anywhere near the "Capitol" "Insurrection";
3. Every single person in DC and in the MSM knows these two facts, yet like the Russia Hoax, which every single person in DC and in the MSM knew was a Yuge Lie, everyone will stick to their narrative Because Orange Man Bad.

I am that cynical.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (0bGEp)

the old Ed Rooney ploy, "well roll his bones out here for us to see"...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (8D42x)

92 I don't know if its guilty conscience about the fraud, fear that they'll be exposed and him returned to office somehow, seething eternal hate, or a combination somehow but they're out to get him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:21 PM (KZzsI)

Fear that he's still supported by a lot of voters, hatred that he exposed their incompetence and stupidity, and internal social positioning on the left. It's like how you can't be the first one to stop applauding Stalin: they cannot be the first one to stop going after Trump, because they'll look weak in the eyes of the deranged leftwing activists who control the party.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (jOcSX)

93 Sicknick was killed by the Trump Virus and Post-Traumatic Hyoid Disorder ... but mostly Post-Traumatic Hyoid Disorder.

Posted by: ShainS at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (EVsJ8)

94 48 Andy McCarthy successfully prosecuted the guy who admitted to bombing the WTC.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge

Wow. Impressive. (yawns)

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (2OsU/)

95 Twatter may not be good for Intel Collection, but it most certainly is good for High Comedy.

Case in Point:

1. Mike Lindell of My Pillow is obviously an E-ville Nazi because he supports Trump;

2. Sub-literate Crisis Actor David Hogg (of Hahvahd Yahd!) has announced that in honor of his dead classmates at Marjorie Stoneman HS, he's starting his own competing pillow company called: "Good Pillow";

3. Pretty much anyone on Twatter who has a sense of humor is now trying to one-up The Hoggster; i.e., one lady says she's starting "Bad Pillow", which will have pillows that look like boobs.

And, suddenly Sharkman is put in mind of the hilarious Seven . . . Minute . . . Abs . . . bit from There's Something About Mary:

tinyurl.com/13s7u1dy

Posted by: Sharkman at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (0bGEp)

96 I see the lying Democrat House managers are still lying and saying 5 people were "Killed" in the riot. Again, here are the facts:

1. Ashlie Babbitt murdered by the Capital Hill police
2. Officer schiek - not murder. Reason for death unclear.
3. Two Trump protestors - not in the Capital -dead of heart attacks.
4. One Trump protestor - in the Capital - but not involved in the violence, dead of a stroke.

That's it folks.

Posted by: rcocean at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (evE25)

97 87 Is it State or Federal after PDT in GA?

Fulton County DA

LOl... That's the pot calling the kettle black

Posted by: It's me donna at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (Zmnko)

98 82 -- Yeah, you're right. But we're still screwed.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at February 10, 2021 12:29 PM (yTN5S)

99 we all knew it was a LIE because after the initial barrage of "Murder, bloody murder', we got NO DETAILS.

Yeah. Its like reading Pravda or Izvestia, its the way they tell the story or the things they leave out that tell you what really happened.

But unlike those news organs, the legacy media in America isn't being controlled by the state, they're doing it voluntarily.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:29 PM (KZzsI)

100 My theory is that he was offed because he had arrested Antifa and Dems coordinating the attack.

The called him to a meeting across the street and had some thug turn him into a speed bump.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2021 12:29 PM (LWu6U)

101 Been reading Thomas Wolfe:

Now they saw it -- its newness, its raw crudeness, and its strength -- and turned their shuddering eyes away. "Give us back our well-worn husk," they said, "where we were so snug and comfortable." And then they tried word magic. "Conditions are fundamentally sound," they said -- by which they meant to reassure themselves that nothing now was really changed, that things were as they always had been, and as they always would be, forever and ever, amen. But they were wrong. They did not know that you can't go home again.

America had come to the end of something and to the beginning of something else. But no one knew what that something else would be and out of the change and uncertainly and the wrongness of the leaders grew fear and desperation and before long hunger stalked the streets. Through it all there was still only one certainty, though no one saw it yet. America was still America, and whatever new thing came of it would be American.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 10, 2021 12:29 PM (wGxSf)

102 We're screwed. That's the bottom line. Trump had one fatal flaw: he trusted the wrong people
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Who are the right people?
Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:27 PM (uEbPt)

Honestly, morons aside, his best bet would have been to put in lackeys and yes-men, the way Barry did. People unqualified but mindlessly loyal to Trump personally.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 10, 2021 12:29 PM (ifmtJ)

103 Fortified with 15 vitamins... and Facts!

Posted by: johnd01 at February 10, 2021 12:29 PM (ukNFU)

104 96 1. Ashlie Babbitt murdered by the Capital Hill police

2. Officer schiek - not murder. Reason for death unclear.

3. Two Trump protestors - not in the Capital -dead of heart attacks.

4. One Trump protestor - in the Capital - but not involved in the violence, dead of a stroke.

you forgot about the cop that committed suicide.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (v3pYe)

105 This show trial is the Republicans' show trial. Democrats are doing what Democrats do and I despise them, but the Republicans are doing it to get rid of the only man in the Republican Party who cared about the American people in the last twenty years.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (S5OQe)

106 Now I have to wonder whether Sicknick wasn't in fact murdered, by the Deep State.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (yQpMk)

My first thought.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (Mt/Tv)

107 The gaslighting will continue until morale is extinguished.

Posted by: Derp State Media at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (W4eKo)

108 I'd trust someone with "69" in their handle more than the NYT. Just saying.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (ZGrMX)

109 The Instant the Dems AND their Script Writing Media used the words :

'THE BIG LIE'

they telegraphed their play.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (joC3p)

110 Now I'm wondering if he actually texted his brother or if someone just messed with his phone. Makes it difficult to compose an accurate timeline.

Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (ofYez)

111 87 Grumpy928

Thank you. So, Ruby recounts the same votes a dozen times, but PDT asks for legal votes only and he's the crook.

Posted by: EveR at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (R0z7P)

112 Like all of us Trump has flaws. Do I blame him for his flaws? No, why should I.

Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (S1hrL)

113 To be successful, any serious reform-minded Presidential candidate needs to effectively create a "shadow government" of pre-vetted personnel who will staff the government upon victory. Valuable campaign (and pre-campaign) time, money and energy needs to go into the selection of these people -- not just in the "transition" but well before.

Once elected to office, the first order of business is to fire everyone that the President has the authority to fire. Fire them all, even those who would not routinely be fired, such as the head of the FBI. Every AUSA should be fired.
If you can fire "burrowed" personnel, do so. And then replace them all with the pre-vetted personnel.

Personnel is policy. Start planning a new spoils system now, because its the only way reform will be possible.

Posted by: Revenant at February 10, 2021 12:31 PM (T4RS9)

114 Why would insurrectionists try to take over the legislature to begin with? So they could pass laws instructing the Executive and who would then give orders to the military? What if the courts overturned the insurrectionists' newly passed laws?

Seems to me that the only real target of a insurrectionist would be the Executive branch.

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 12:31 PM (FWn1L)

115 >> I'd trust someone with "69" in their handle more than the NYT.

It (69) implies a level of honesty that the NYT is patently incapable of achieving.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2021 12:31 PM (joC3p)

116 Andy McCarthy was a Hysterical Never Trump who bought 100% into comey and his Russia-Trump-Collusion lies. He constantly reassured us that Mueller was a most honorable man and we could trust EVERYTHING he did.

Finally, when the facts made this impossible to believe, McCarthy did some good work, for while in 2018. But immediately went back to believing everything the NYT's printed and hating Trump. Once a Never Trumper, always a liar.

Posted by: rcocean at February 10, 2021 12:31 PM (evE25)

117 I honestly don't hate anyone. People I dislike I tend not to deal with, or, if I have to deal with them, I keep the encounter short and polite.

Mitt Romney, however, I would make an exception for.

Yes, the rest that voted for impeachment, well, they are who I thought they were. Romney, though, obviously hates the very people who voted for him.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 10, 2021 12:31 PM (2SdPm)

118 89 84 We're screwed. That's the bottom line. Trump had one fatal flaw: he trusted the wrong people

I mostly blame McConnell.. Slimy bastard

Posted by: It's me donna at February 10, 2021 12:28 PM (Zmnko)
We have the list of names thus far of who the (R) betrayers are - based on yesterday's vote. Add McConnell (yeah I know he got us judges and a lot of good that has done us). If they get 67+ votes and convict Trump - and I'm not sure they won't -- 2022 and 2024 will be friggin AWESOME.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 10, 2021 12:32 PM (N39Ws)

119 Twitter Idiots

Twittiots.

You're welcome. Unless of course, it's been used already, then I guess I stole it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 10, 2021 12:32 PM (z79tQ)

120 Now I have to wonder whether Sicknick wasn't in fact murdered, by the Deep State.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (yQpMk)

I'm thinking Dunkin Donuts had more to do with his death than the Deep State...

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at February 10, 2021 12:32 PM (0gppH)

121 48 Andy McCarthy successfully prosecuted the guy who admitted to bombing the WTC.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge

Wow. Impressive. (yawns)
Posted by: Puddleglum

was the guy executed? let's not toss that "successfully" around carelessly.

Posted by: x4 at February 10, 2021 12:32 PM (oA+QO)

122 There are two sides to this.

A side - creating a false narrative of a "riot" by the Right

B side - hiding the reality of Dem coordination of violence.

Anyone who looks at the videos can see massive coordination by people who do not appear to be MAGA, and who are only interested in breaching barriers. Why break a window if you are not going to climb through? That was antifa, and we know antifa was controlled by the dems (obama/pelosi?)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (LWu6U)

123 Springsteen DUI? Was that stupid jeep ad from a police dash-cam? Explains alot...

Posted by: pahound at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (/KbAv)

What did Jeep know and when did they know it? I normally don't revel in the misfortune of others. Springsteen is a jagoff and nothing is going to change that. But if a conservative entertainer were arrested, would it take four months to come out and right after a major ad placement? Seems like there is smoke here, and maybe fire.

Not saying most would care or change there views on The Help, I mean, The Boss. But something seems very fishy to me. And since the Left media dictates all, I have a problem with it.

Posted by: Quint at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (cVcEL)

124 This is why the rush to impeachment was a stunningly stupid idea.

It' like during the last impeachment attempt, they diagnosed the problem as "not fast enough" as opposed to "lacking a case".

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (EwPKb)

125 I think the deterrence effect suffices to explain the vile lawless 3rd World behavior of the Dems, their media wing, and the disgraceful acquiescence of most elected GOP.

Recall the comment by one of the slimy airhead Obama horse-holder types, about "his kind never rising again".

Occam's saber, or scalpel, or whatever it's called.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (OTzUX)

126 If someone stabs Trump in the back, its Trump fault. LOL!

Yeah, he took on the whole establishment and the media, but hey if only he'd listened to me - with my hindsight knowledge - he would've done OK. LOL!

Posted by: rcocean at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (evE25)

127 Twidiots

Posted by: Bosk at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (SWbVS)

128 Andy McCarthy is an idiot. I read the guy for a while, and then I realized that he set himself up as right-wing 'cover' to allow the left-wing saboteurs to sabotage our Federal institutions from the inside.

Patrick Fitzgerald. James Comey. Those are just two, and I know I'm forgetting about more. Rosenstein, didn't he vouch for this guy as well?

He's like Joe Manchin. You always hope he'll come through for you, but you know in your heart of hearts that he never will.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (4tiP2)

129 Sorry. I can't believe the uniparty and media would exploit a death to benefit politically or further divide the country, while smothering the real details for weeks or a month or more, letting the truth slowly drip out if at all, barely getting reported, while they continue to repeat and amplify the old original lies in snappy slogans forever. I just shan't.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (uEbPt)

130 Trump had one fatal flaw: he trusted the wrong people

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Ironically, his one fatal flaw was the same as the NeverTrumpers: he grossly underestimated the danger of, and damage that would be done by, the Left seizing power by any means necessary and taking over.

Most of us here knew what was coming; this experiment was going to end in authoritarian rule one way or the other -- which is why I was urging him to go full-Pinochet, giving us at least an opportunity to start over after he corrected things and walked away.

Posted by: ShainS at February 10, 2021 12:34 PM (EVsJ8)

131 "The object appears to strike one officer, who was wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets and strikes another officer, who was not wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets a third time and strikes a third officer, wearing a helmet, in the head."

Posted by: Mr. Gray #33

The Magic Loogie.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 10, 2021 12:34 PM (0bGEp)

132 Next time the RNC calls, Imma answer.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2021 12:34 PM (AwYPR)

133 Went to the US Capitol Police website on this and they say that he did return to his office Wednesday night and then collapsed and was transferred to the hospital where he died the next day. They only mention that he died of injuries incurred at the 2/6 protest.

Sacrificial lamb. Also, read reports that PDT offered additional police and NG prior to the inauguration but was turned down.

Posted by: Cheri at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (oiNtH)

134 He's like Joe Manchin. You always hope he'll come through for you, but you know in your heart of hearts that he never will.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (4tiP2)
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Both he and Sinema will talk a good game, but, in the end, they vote as their masters bid.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (2SdPm)

135 Anyone with two functioning brain cells knows that Trump supporters don't beat up and kill cops.

Posted by: kallisto at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (DJFLF)

136 Here's just one account on Jan 8th that raises questions from a CBS affiliate:

tinyurl.com/r2xao5t3

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (8Xolh)

137 Posted by: rcocean at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (evE25)

I agree.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (VP4Cd)

138 Personnel is policy. Start planning a new spoils system now, because its the only way reform will be possible.

I still don't think Trump expected to really win, so he was caught off guard and had to scramble. And he's so big on winging it, since he's done that most of his life and its worked well for him.

And honestly since he got reelected, it worked okay this time, but he was so totally betrayed from within in a way that he could have avoided by being more thoughtful and careful in planning as you noted.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (KZzsI)

139 He's like Joe Manchin. You always hope he'll come through for you, but you know in your heart of hearts that he never will.

Joe Manchin fulfills every expectation I have for him by wearing shoes and eschewing a straw hat and corncob pipe when in the well of a senate.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (H5knJ)

140 @124 Inspector Kemp"This is why the rush to impeachment was a stunningly stupid idea."
Every one of these leftist politicos believes they are the most smartest and dastardly brain-thinkers to ever break their oath of office. You can't tell them anything. They're convinced they're brilliant.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 10, 2021 12:36 PM (S5OQe)

141 Why, it's almost as if... as if... National Review knows that their leftwing media allies are lying, but choose to repeat those lies anyway, because they're all on the same side now.
Ace-

You say NOW as if they haven't been for quite some time. It's only become more obvious now, thanks to you noticing and using your platform.
Clearly, they've purged wrongthinkers twice in the past ten years, and not for being less conservative than NR.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 10, 2021 12:36 PM (z79tQ)

142 As I'm sure has been covered already, but if not...

The fire extinguisher video was a false op from the start, sorta like the Youtube video was for the Benghazi fiasco. It was put out there, even though EVERYONE behind the scenes knew it was a lie, and they knew it would be exposed as such eventually.

Then, there is now a video floating around that appears to show a Kapital Kop being bludgeoned by the mob, with ONE STILL PHOTO that I've seen showing the Kop laying flat out on the ground.

Maybe there's video of that somewhere, but I haven't seen it. So... again, is that Sicknick? Was that Kop, whoever it is, seriously injured?

Misinformation and disinformation is the order of the day. Remember, they assassinated a President, and any number of others (including the President's brother). They're good at this. And over the decades, they've only gotten better.

International espionage? Not so much, but domestically they're freakin' geniuses.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2021 12:36 PM (oQ94s)

143 It should be 'TAINT'. Not sure how to make it work, though.
Posted by: t-bird

Twitter-Anointed (or Annotated) Intelligence?
Posted by: Thrawn

Twitter-Acquired INTelligence, surely?

Posted by: mikeski at February 10, 2021 12:37 PM (P1f+c)

144 you forgot about the cop that committed suicide.

Doesn't count. That was a few days later. People who commit suicide clearly have "pre-existing conditions."

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 12:37 PM (FWn1L)

145 Seth Rich sends his condolences.

Posted by: mot at February 10, 2021 12:38 PM (jad3h)

146 144 you forgot about the cop that committed suicide.

Doesn't count. That was a few days later. People who commit suicide clearly have "pre-existing conditions."
Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 12:37 PM (FWn1L)

==========

It really was a failure of our broken medical system (that the ACA completely fixed, by the way), which is why we need single payer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 10, 2021 12:38 PM (NWM+b)

147 Most of us here knew what was coming; this experiment was going to end
in authoritarian rule one way or the other -- which is why I was urging
him to go full-Pinochet, giving us at least an opportunity to start over
after he corrected things and walked away.
Pinochet and Franco rose up through the ranks of the military. They had spent a life time inflicting pain and even killing their identified enemies.Trump was a developer from NYC., a bon vivant. Two different DNAs at work. Also, DJT was surrounded by squishy advisors.

Posted by: kallisto at February 10, 2021 12:38 PM (DJFLF)

148 @142 Burttc
I think we greatly undervalue misinformation. It effectively turns every fact into a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (S5OQe)

149 I've had this conversation with friends several times, pointing out the initial lie and to sources of actual analysis of the event. Guess what: They're sure I'm fucking crazy. Not one has entertained the thought, even for a moment, that the initial report was simply untrue.

That's why I'm so pessimistic about the future of the United States. The left/media have learned precisely how to insert complete bullshit into popular consciousness, with no repercussions. They will never stop doing it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (sWM8x)

150 Imagine Jon Voight, a Trump supporter, having an upcoming ad for a product during the SB but catches a DUI prior to the game. Does anyone think that this wouldn't have been screamed from the rafters from the media vermin?

Posted by: Cheri at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (oiNtH)

151 Seth Rich sends his condolences.
Posted by: mot at February 10, 2021 12:38 PM (jad3h)

Andrew Breitbart and Antonin Scalia, not available for comment.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (oQ94s)

152 "The object appears to strike one officer, who was wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets and strikes another officer, who was not wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets a third time and strikes a third officer, wearing a helmet, in the head."
Posted by: Mr. Gray #33 at February 10, 2021 12:13 PM (HBEnm)

========

Yes, this is how physics works.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 10, 2021

***
Tell me about it.

Posted by: John Connally and the Magic Bullet at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (axyOa)

153 Scalia says he knows the feeling.

Posted by: mot at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (jad3h)

154 1. Ashlie Babbitt murdered by the Capital Hill police

2. Officer schiek - not murder. Reason for death unclear.

3. Two Trump protestors - not in the Capital -dead of heart attacks.

4. One Trump protestor - in the Capital - but not involved in the violence, dead of a stroke.

you forgot about the cop that committed suicide.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 10, 2021 12:30 PM (v3pYe)

Actually two cops were reported to have committed suicide, although that's so improbable that it has to be questioned.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (BMmaB)

155 International espionage? Not so much, but domestically they're freakin' geniuses.

Its not that they are so good at it, but that they're so overwhelming at it. They're blanketing the area with wall-to-wall message and there's no escape.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (KZzsI)

156 126 If someone stabs Trump in the back, its Trump fault. LOL!

Yeah, he took on the whole establishment and the media, but hey if only he'd listened to me - with my hindsight knowledge - he would've done OK. LOL!
Posted by: rcocean at February 10, 2021 12:33 PM (evE25)

So much this.

Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (ofYez)

157 This thread need an angry alexthechick to tell us that "prosecutor" is the lowest, meanest insult she can think of.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 10, 2021 12:40 PM (DXFDM)

158 148 @142 Burttc
I think we greatly undervalue misinformation. It effectively turns every fact into a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: squid_hunt at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (S5OQe)

It does. It's wildly effective.

I hate to say it, but it is.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2021 12:40 PM (oQ94s)

159 Twitter is a disease. You catch it, and it's way more deadly than any Chinese flu. You can expect full brain-death.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 10, 2021 12:40 PM (E+OcO)

160 but he was so totally betrayed from within in a way that he could have avoided by being more thoughtful and careful in planning as you noted.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (KZzsI)

Good Lord, how?! If anything he must be giving his guards and Melania some kind of legendary artifacts, because otherwise I'm astonished he's managed to keep the people literally closest to him loyal. The level of treachery from corporate and legal America has been comprehensive: there are solutions, of course, but nothing the bloodless term "planning" could possibly address.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 12:40 PM (0HpOW)

161 Everything that PROGDA spews is a lie. They absolutely refuse to speak or even to recognize the truth.

WASTF until we decide we've had enough of their incessant bullshit and take action against the liars and usurpers. They will kill us if we don't.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 10, 2021 12:40 PM (HaL55)

162 McCarthy is the perfect example of a dull legal mediocrity, capable of nothing save for filling out and filing forms, who poses as an "Expert" because he happens to know the Right People in the MSM.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2021 12:40 PM (trdmm)

163 152 Yes, this is how physics works.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 10, 2021

***
Tell me about it.
Posted by: John Connally and the Magic Bullet at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (axyOa)

========

Your movie is overlong and boring.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 10, 2021 12:40 PM (NWM+b)

164 Imagine Jon Voight, a Trump supporter, having an upcoming ad for a product during the SB but catches a DUI prior to the game. Does anyone think that this wouldn't have been screamed from the rafters from the media vermin?
Posted by: Cheri at February 10, 2021 12:39 PM (oiNtH)

It's worse than that. He is advertising a car and was arrested driving a car. Does anyone know whether it was a Jeep? That would have been the cherry on top.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 12:41 PM (BMmaB)

165 Is anything the truth?

Mr. Gray posted in the art thread that the head of the Oathkeepers is a freakkin' FBI section chief. Pair that with the head of the Proud Boys being an FBI informant, and it looks like this is all political theater/FBI framime job.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2021 12:41 PM (bDqIh)

166 Trump is now under Criminal investigation in Georgia for 'solicitation of election fraud' and other charges-

They want him to say Uncle. They want us all to beg for mercy. They are evil.

Posted by: spypeach at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (Up/Jb)

167 America is so moronic. Feel bad for you guys. It's not better here but what is going on there is just sad.

An aristocratic class that is moronic, aided by a bureaucratic class that thinks the aristocratic morons above them are bright. Idiots ruling through bigger idiots, aided by institutions staffed by morons.

Posted by: Dr. DJ3Way at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (bhPL1)

168 What if there never was an Officer Sicknick? There was no Saddam Hussien, he was just a character actor that the Feds discovered in a dinner theater.

Posted by: Captain Stubing at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (Izzlo)

169 "The object appears to strike one officer, who was wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets and strikes another officer, who was not wearing a helmet, in the head. The object then ricochets a third time and strikes a third officer, wearing a helmet, in the head."
Posted by: Mr. Gray #33

The Magic Loogie.
Posted by: Sharkman

The majik boolit. Kennedy - Connolly.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (fjZl+)

170 I re-watched 1984 last night and I don't recommend it. Depressing to see the parallels to current events.

Posted by: mot at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (jad3h)

171 By. Any. Means. Necessary.
Marxists know what this means.The other side does not.
Until that changes, this will continue.

Posted by: wytshus at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (embgW)

172 Anyone with two functioning brain cells knows that Trump supporters don't beat up and kill cops.
Posted by: kallisto at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (DJFLF)

Those words are hurtful.

Please clap!

Posted by: Jeb! at February 10, 2021 12:43 PM (Qm/Qo)

173 In a year of dumb, this "Trump conspired to murder someone" is peak dumb.

BackwardsBoy has it right though. Everyone knows they are Pravda now. No one believes anything said by any media outlet now (including NRO, et. al.)

Posted by: Dave in Fla at February 10, 2021 12:43 PM (5p7BC)

174 That is even more infuriating than the usual daily infuriating media scheme.

Fake a murder and then unconstitutionally impeach and a president based on the fake news story.

I hope the defense attorneys are able
To point out all the false and misleading evidence but who knows what evidentiary rules exist in this kangaroo court

Posted by: Pres elect LA Sue at February 10, 2021 12:43 PM (Ed8Zd)

175 300 blackout subsonic

https://bit.ly/3rDnIDq

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2021 12:43 PM (UW2ZS)

176 The majik boolit. Kennedy - Connolly.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM

Heeeyyy! I was furst! @152

Posted by: John Connally and the Magic Bullet at February 10, 2021 12:43 PM (axyOa)

177 Is anything the truth?

Nope.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 10, 2021 12:43 PM (88+cf)

178 Pair that with the head of the Proud Boys being an FBI informant, and it looks like this is all political theater/FBI framime job.

That Proud Boys informer thing just does not sound right to me at all. First off people are repeating it based on a Gateway Pundit claim which is always something to be cautious with but... what, exactly, would he "inform" about??

The Proud Boys are basically a buncha guys who drink beer and hang out at the bar, then go out and help protect protesters sometimes. They're not a criminal organization, they don't get involved in crimes, they're not smuggling drugs. There's nothing to inform ON.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (KZzsI)

179 >>McCarthy is the perfect example of a dull legal mediocrity, capable of nothing save for filling out and filing forms, who poses as an "Expert" because he happens to know the Right People in the MSM.

He successfully prosecuted the Blind Sheik for the 1993 WTC attack. . . and has done not that much since? Wait, he did an excellent series of PJM column delving into Huma Abedin's background and all her family's ties to islamic terror.

Think Andy needs to stick to his specialty and skip the rest.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (bDqIh)

180 Actually, Darrell, McCarthy's probably the most inscrutable failure of the prominent names out there.

His "never Trumpism" - idiotic, ipso facto, as it was/is wherever it's found.

But then - on one of the recent absurd SCOTUS decisions (there've been so many one forgets which one it was - I think marriage redefinition or O-care?? but it seemed more recent than those), his take-down of the authoritarian drones on the court was very good. "They vote, they don't judge" I recall was his key point, which even if obviously the problem with courts for years, was still well put.

And on Rosenstein, McCarthy authored a pretty devastating column with a fairly persuasive argument that Rosenstein's weakness and cowardice explained his otherwise indefensible "oversight" of Mueller. Those with separate angles of intel on Rosie find McCarthy's analysis perfectly spot-on.

So bottom line, McCarthy's a pathetic failure on the biggest questions, or most of them, but a paradox in that he obviously understands some of the other major issues.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (OTzUX)

181 I eat my Fortified Fact Flakes with Chest Milk.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (flINI)

182 @171 wytshus"Marxists know what this means.The other side does not."
This. The left is fighting a war. The right is in a debate club.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (S5OQe)

183 The majik boolit. Kennedy - Connolly.
Posted by: rickb223

Heeeyyy! I was furst! @152
Posted by: John Connally and the Magic Bullet

Great minds think alike.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (fjZl+)

184 Seth Rich sends his condolences.
Posted by: mot at February 10, 2021 12:38 PM (jad3h)

Andrew Breitbart and Antonin Scalia, not available for comment.
Posted by: BurtTC

Vince Foster thinks they got off easy.

Posted by: mot at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (jad3h)

185 Anyone with two functioning brain cells knows that Trump supporters don't beat up and kill cops.

***

How about donning free-climbing gear to scale the walls of the chambers of Congress while dressed entirely in black?

Posted by: Mr. Gray #33 at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (HBEnm)

186 102 We're screwed. That's the bottom line. Trump had one fatal flaw: he trusted the wrong people
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Who are the right people?
Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:27 PM (uEbPt)

Honestly, morons aside, his best bet would have been to put in lackeys and yes-men, the way Barry did. People unqualified but mindlessly loyal to Trump personally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 10, 2021 12:29 PM (ifmtJ)
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You're assuming that lackeys and yes-men existed.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (geGrP)

187 Twidjits.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (uhPTO)

188 sock

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (gxbWO)

189 The pressure on Trump and level of betrayal from his own countrymen and likely the world, is unlike anything any modern president has faced.

We tend to forget it because he made a lot of impossible things look very easy.

With an unprecedented constant barrage of vicious negative coverage from the global media and traitors throughout his own party, and saboteurs at all levels, he even managed to gain 12 to 17 million voters.

His second term would have likely been even more effective. WTF more do you want from the dude. He's not God.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (uEbPt)

190 The Magic Loogie.
Posted by: Sharkman

The majik boolit. Kennedy - Connolly.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (fjZl+)

As much as people talk about JFK, the RFK "magic bullet" is even more preposterous.

In order for Sirhan Sirhan to have shot Kennedy, he would have to have about 9 foot long arms, and had to reach all the way around in a big circle, to be able to hold his revolver up to Kennedy's head, in order to put the fatal round behind his ear.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (oQ94s)

191 Is anything the truth?

I once heard 'truth' defined as "Reality as God defines it". I like that description.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (2OsU/)

192 Off magic bullet sock

Posted by: Diogenes at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (axyOa)

193 Trump is now under Criminal investigation in Georgia for 'solicitation of election fraud' and other charges-

They want him to say Uncle. They want us all to beg for mercy. They are evil.
Posted by: spypeach at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (Up/Jb)

Oh my. For pointing out the obvious undercounting of ballots in Republican areas What a clown filled circus

Posted by: Pres elect LA Sue at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

194 Why would insurrectionists try to take over the legislature to begin with? So they could pass laws instructing the Executive and who would then give orders to the military? What if the courts overturned the insurrectionists' newly passed laws?

Seems to me that the only real target of a insurrectionist would be the Executive branch.

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 12:31 PM (FWn1L)

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Pelousey repeatedly tweeted out support for those who took over the Wisconsin State Capitol for months back in 2011.

Posted by: ShainS at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (cyfOK)

195 The majik boolit. Kennedy - Connolly.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (fjZl+)

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I didn't see shit.....

Posted by: The Grassy Knoll at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (jvt6t)

196 >>They're not a criminal organization, they don't get involved in crimes, they're not smuggling drugs. There's nothing to inform ON.

Are you NOT familiar with our work?

Posted by: Ham and Egger's Local #069 at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (PeYuU)

197 > The Proud Boys are basically a buncha guys who drink beer and hang out at the bar, then go out and help protect protesters sometimes. They're not a criminal organization, they don't get involved in crimes, they're not smuggling drugs. There's nothing to inform ON.

Real life man with one red shoe situation?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (UW2ZS)

198 You're assuming that lackeys and yes-men existed.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (geGrP)

That's true. I can only assume he had some people who were deeply loyal to him personally. Most folks who worked for him seemed to like him, prior to his election.

Hell, pack the cabinet with his family, if needs be. If it was ok for Kennedy, it's ok for Trump to do it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 10, 2021 12:46 PM (ifmtJ)

199 His second term would have likely been even more effective. WTF more do you want from the dude.

Some of his hires were great, they got a lot done. Most were awful and worse, treacherous and underhanded. And as commander in chief, he had a lot more power over the military than he ever used.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:46 PM (KZzsI)

200 Trump is now under Criminal investigation in Georgia for 'solicitation of election fraud' and other charges-

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Solicitation after the fact?

Posted by: Captain Stubing at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (Izzlo)

201 WASTF until we decide we've had enough of their incessant bullshit and take action against the liars and usurpers.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 10, 2021 12:40 PM (HaL55)

That's a terrible thing to say.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (uEbPt)

202 102 -- Trump didn't do his due diligence. As an outsider, I suspect he just wasn't familiar enough with the swamp denizens. And the swamp kept picking off the non-swampers, like Flynn. I'm not damning the man; he did the best with what he had. He underestimated the swamp. And he believed the GOPe would support him.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (yTN5S)

203 I'm still struggling with this - we are supposed to believe now, that if a police officer was attacked when policing a protest, that collectively all the protestors and the movement they are part of are now criminals?
From the people who were telling us ACAB and "what do we want? Dead cops" right up until Nov 6?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (qlFIA)

204 I hope the defense attorneys are able
To point out all the false and misleading evidence but who knows what evidentiary rules exist in this kangaroo court
Posted by: Pres elect LA Sue at February 10, 2021 12:43 PM (Ed8Zd)

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Did you SEEE the "defense" attorneys yesterday????

They are on team "Impeach the Motherfucker"

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (gxbWO)

205 Didn't the media try to claim Trump supporters "rioted" in DC, and provide, as "evidence," a photo from the July BMLAntifa Washington festivities?

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (2SdPm)

206 That Proud Boys informer thing just does not sound right to me at all. First off people are repeating it based on a Gateway Pundit claim which is always something to be cautious with but... what, exactly, would he "inform" about??

The Proud Boys are basically a buncha guys who drink beer and hang out at the bar, then go out and help protect protesters sometimes. They're not a criminal organization, they don't get involved in crimes, they're not smuggling drugs. There's nothing to inform ON.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (KZzsI)

I have a buddy who is a retired FBI agent who infiltrated a group in the Mountain states back in the 90's that was under suspicion by the Janet Reno DOJ. He reported back that they were harmless and just had meetings where they learned about the Constitution.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (BMmaB)

207 They have to hold it until interest dies down. Too many powerful people would be embarrassed or rightfully accused of inflammatory statements if the medical examiner's report went public right now. They can't accuse their opponents of intentionally misleading and being inflammatory if that happens.

How much does anyone want to bet that certain politicians were briefed that he died of natural causes before his service, but still went there and made the claim he was murdered?

Posted by: JTwig at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (CN7GJ)

208 You know what conversation we need to have? One about eating on a low-purine and low-oxalate diet (the conversation Ihatethatwordinthiscontext I missed last night). Actually, it's a very short conversation: I can eat brunch all day long -- eggs, cheese, salmon, cherries, yogurt, corn, lettuce, cabbage, broccoli, onions.... Sigh. My mother once told me, "getting old sucks".

Posted by: SFGoth at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (KAi1n)

209 Isnt the Capitol building ours? Im pretty sure thats what we were told when the pussy hattters, war protestors and green activists stormed it.

Posted by: Pres elect LA Sue at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (Ed8Zd)

210 Even his last name indicated a preexisting condition.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (uEbPt)

211 That link I posted upthread for Jan 8th said that the fire extinguisher claim comes from "two law enforcement officials".

That's the most "official" thing I've seen yet on this "murder".

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (8Xolh)

212 The Proud Boys are basically a buncha guys who drink beer and hang out at the bar, then go out and help protect protesters sometimes. They're not a criminal organization, they don't get involved in crimes, they're not smuggling drugs. There's nothing to inform ON.

There soon will be.....we got all kinds of evidence we can plant, ya know, like a ficus.

Posted by: The FBI, A Criminal Gang at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (Qm/Qo)

213 From the people who were telling us ACAB and "what do we want? Dead cops" right up until Nov 6?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (qlFIA)

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Mary Cloggenstein logic. Its real. And spectacular.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM (gxbWO)

214 Personnel is policy. Start planning a new spoils system now, because its the only way reform will be possible.

I still don't think Trump expected to really win, so he was caught off guard and had to scramble. And he's so big on winging it, since he's done that most of his life and its worked well for him.

And honestly since he got reelected, it worked okay this time, but he was so totally betrayed from within in a way that he could have avoided by being more thoughtful and careful in planning as you noted.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:35 PM (KZzsI)

I disagree that he didn't think he'd win. he strikes me as a guy who ONLY plays to win. that said, i don't know what else PDJT could have done. based on how slowly his "friends" in the senate were confirming appointments i'm not sure it would have mattered if he had a list or not.

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM (8D42x)

215 195 The majik boolit. Kennedy - Connolly.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (fjZl+)

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I didn't see shit.....
Posted by: The Grassy Knoll at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (jvt6t)
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Neither did I

Posted by: Drain culvert at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM (geGrP)

216 Taking over the Capitol during the Kavanugh hearings was a wonderful expression of democracy. Taking it over on Jan 6 was an insurrection.

Why the diff? Because shut up thats why.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM (DAWrM)

217 WTF more do you want from the dude. He's not God.
Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (uEbPt)

He really should have crossed the Rubicon in January. I was holding out hope that he had some amazing plan to tear the Biden's apart from the inside, but it really does look like he lost his nerve. Not quite as shameful as always being on the enemy side, but still. Caesar would have killed to have that kind of military advantage over his enemies.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM (0HpOW)

218 >Now I have to wonder whether Sicknick wasn't in fact murdered, by the Deep State.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2021 12:26 PM (yQpMk)

Kind of sounds like he may have been Breitbarted to me...

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM (DXFDM)

219 So bottom line, McCarthy's a pathetic failure on the biggest questions, or most of them, but a paradox in that he obviously understands some of the other major issues.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (OTzUX)

Rhomboid, you reminded me of McCarthy's last endorsement. He didn't endorse Rosenstein - he actually endorsed Mueller after he was appointed special prosecutor for Trump.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (4tiP2)

220 THE DEADLY ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL RAAWWK!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (yPh6V)

221 The day after Sicknick's reported death, depraved toilet paper company and full-time libel factory known as The New York Times jumbo-tronned a massive, howler headline, later confirmed to be a Judith Miller-level damn dirty lie.

.. now that is bombast ...

Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (3aI0K)

222 The Proud Boys are basically a buncha guys who drink beer and hang out at the bar, then go out and help protect protesters sometimes. They're not a criminal organization, they don't get involved in crimes, they're not smuggling drugs. There's nothing to inform ON.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (KZzsI)

I guess there's value in having a handy member roll and advance notice of their movements so the feds can easily "find their man" whenever they need one.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (uhPTO)

223 It looks like the shooting of Ashli Babbit may have been staged. She and those around the shooting were just actors. That is why they won't recommend charges or name the shooter. Nobody was shot.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DYlb92zMkj41/

Posted by: Hawk_TX at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (bkyPB)

224 Isn't there something demon possessed Nanzi Pelosi can be charged with for falsely accusing someone of murder?
I understand she won't face consequences until her judgement day, but still.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (lgiXo)

225 Ok, enough depression for the day. I'll go back into my bubble.

The only good news out of this stupidity is that apparently my portfolio was invested in a way that the election thieves liked, I've had a 25% return in the last 2 months.

We will see how long it lasts. Not that I can touch it for another 7 years.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (5p7BC)

226 193 Trump is now under Criminal investigation in Georgia for 'solicitation of election fraud' and other charges-

They want him to say Uncle. They want us all to beg for mercy. They are evil.
Posted by: spypeach at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (Up/Jb)

Oh my. For pointing out the obvious undercounting of ballots in Republican areas What a clown filled circus
Posted by: Pres elect LA Sue at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

The call with his lawyers that was recorded and illegally released? that call? This will be the 3rd time a full transcript is available but they try anyway.

Posted by: Inogame at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (I8jn/)

227 I'm still struggling with this - we are supposed to believe now, that if a police officer was attacked when policing a protest, that collectively all the protestors and the movement they are part of are now criminals?
From the people who were telling us ACAB and "what do we want? Dead cops" right up until Nov 6?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (qlFIA)

It's amazing, when you realize the same people who, last June were telling us Kops are all criminals, are the same ones now saying anyone who tussles with a Kop is now an insurrectionist enemy of the State.

Absolutely no way to reconcile the two.

Which again, is part of the op. When they can contradict themselves completely, and look you in the eye while doing so, that's a boss power move.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (oQ94s)

228
The lawyers for Ashli are asking for assistance in identifying three individuals, while not asking for assistance with legal costs. Could be white hats paying, or black hats. Why am I that cynical?

/ story at GP

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (N/gDA)

229 I once heard 'truth' defined as "Reality as God defines it". I like that description.[i/]
Reality is that which actually occurred. There's only one accurate timeline.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (HaL55)

230 Dave in Fla, if nobody believed the "press", the country wouldn't resemble what it is right now, in many respects.

The entire false framework most people exist within is a creation of media distortion, everything talked about here is a product of media distortion and "agendas".

There may well be a record % of people skeptical or completely contemptuous of the "press", but look around you at most of the country, how it's run, what people seem to "think". It can be difficult to separate the effects of poor education, toxic pop culture, and a press that misinforms and distorts, but the results aren't hard to find.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (OTzUX)

231 Is QAnon still a thing?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (DAWrM)

232 Posted by: SFGoth at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (KAi1n)

Is that a low purine diet? I don't know what an oxolate is.
My husband should eat a low purine diet because he has gout, but the info on diets for gout seems to be a little contradictory.-aside from no beef and no alcohol and no shellfish.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (VP4Cd)

233 Closing tags FTW!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 10, 2021 12:51 PM (HaL55)

234 Who were the two that gave Ashli a boost up?
Were they MAGA or were they conspirators?

Posted by: Drain culvert at February 10, 2021 12:51 PM (geGrP)

235 > Posted by: Ham and Egger's Local #069

In boxing, a Ham and Egger was a boxer well past their prime who was fighting to earn one meal at a time because they couldn't do anything else.

I'm not sure how that translates to Feeb agents. Are we talking low effort short timers who are only collecting a few paychecks until they can fuck off somewhere else?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2021 12:51 PM (UW2ZS)

236 Is anything real anymore? Are we living in the Twilight Zone?

Posted by: dantesed at February 10, 2021 12:51 PM (88xKn)

237 >The Magic Loogie.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 10, 2021 12:34 PM (0bGEp)

Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left...

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 10, 2021 12:52 PM (DXFDM)

238 Brave can suck some sock

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog saw the Joint Chiefs of Staff lie to and disobey the President at February 10, 2021 12:52 PM (geGrP)

239 Some of his hires were great, they got a lot done. Most were awful and worse, treacherous and underhanded. And as commander in chief, he had a lot more power over the military than he ever used.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:46 PM (KZzsI)

We've discussed this before. There are about 3000 jobs that are Presidential appointees. If Hillary had been elected, you know they had at least 2000 of the jobs filled with either Obama holdovers or Clinton loyalists, and they would have left the remainder open for their appointees to fill with their people. The Trump people had maybe 20 identified on Election Day. They should have started getting lists even before the convention.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 12:52 PM (BMmaB)

240 193 Trump is now under Criminal investigation in Georgia for 'solicitation of election fraud' and other charges-

They want him to say Uncle. They want us all to beg for mercy. They are evil.
Posted by: spypeach at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (Up/Jb)

Oh my. For pointing out the obvious undercounting of ballots in Republican areas What a clown filled circus
Posted by: Pres elect LA Sue at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

This is not the end of the persecution of Trump. Once the sham impeachment is done, and they pin the blame for the 'insurrection' on him, the next step is lawsuits in civil court for damages and compensation for the loss of life.

They want to bankrupt him. They will employ legions of personal injury lawyers to go after the guy.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2021 12:52 PM (4tiP2)

241 210 Even his last name indicated a preexisting condition.
Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:47 PM (uEbPt)

Masturbatin' Pete. Now that is one sick nic...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2021 12:52 PM (s2VJv)

242 If the Fulton DA can go after PDT, then why isn't some red-area GA DA going after the new GA Senators for promising $2k for the voting public's vote?

Posted by: EveR at February 10, 2021 12:52 PM (R0z7P)

243 If Sicknick was murdered, the media would be running the video of it 24/7, or showing photos of the offender, etc. I guessed it was B.S. the next day, when none of that was being shown on the news.

Funny how they don't continually show the video of Ashli Babbitt being murdered in cold blood.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 12:52 PM (qoNQ/)

244 I guess there's value in having a handy member roll
and advance notice of their movements so the feds can easily "find their
man" whenever they need one.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (uhPTO)

Know one person above you. Know five below you. Make a point of never communicating higher or lower than those levels. If you're serious about building a network, that's a decent way to start.

Posted by: Pierre at February 10, 2021 12:53 PM (oT1NJ)

245 That Proud Boys informer thing just does not sound right to me at all. First off people are repeating it based on a Gateway Pundit claim which is always something to be cautious with but... what, exactly, would he "inform" about??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

He'd been a snitch since getting busted for fraud in 2012.
https://abcn.ws/2N9l49z

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:53 PM (fjZl+)

246 He really should have crossed the Rubicon in January. I was holding out hope that he had some amazing plan to tear the Biden's apart from the inside, but it really does look like he lost his nerve. Not quite as shameful as always being on the enemy side, but still. Caesar would have killed to have that kind of military advantage over his enemies.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM (0HpOW)

The idea that the military would have supported this is absurd. Surprised to see this still floated.

Even if all the troops supported it (also absurd), there's no way all the senior officers required to make it happen would be on board.

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 12:53 PM (8Xolh)

247 >>>My husband should eat a low purine diet because he has gout, but the info on diets for gout seems to be a little contradictory.-aside from no beef and no alcohol and no shellfish.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (VP4Cd)
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I'm told cherrys, he should eat cherries

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog saw the Joint Chiefs of Staff lie to and disobey the President at February 10, 2021 12:54 PM (geGrP)

248 "Pair that with the head of the Proud Boys being an FBI informant"

What does that really mean? Back in 2000 we (Freepers) protested outside the Gore's VP office. Secret Service crossed the street and grabbed a middle eastern man for questioning. Several of us were about to follow our outrage down a rabbit hole and do something stupid until the protest organizer warned us to stand down, that this was his permit and he was going to co-operate fully.

By the OPs standard, that made him a "gov informant"

What probably happened is the FBI contacted the leader to co-operate in screening some of his members as a domestic terror threat and he simply co-operated.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 12:54 PM (NbRTU)

249 I'm not sure how that translates to Feeb agents. Are we talking low effort short timers who are only collecting a few paychecks until they can fuck off somewhere else?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2021 12:51 PM (UW2ZS)

Gov't Job got the term "Gov't Job" for a reason.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2021 12:54 PM (AwYPR)

250 Baby, I was born to blow.

Posted by: Springsteen's Breathalyzer at February 10, 2021 12:54 PM (W4eKo)

251 The Trump people had maybe 20 identified on Election Day. They should have started getting lists even before the convention.

I agree, which is why I figured he was not expecting to actually win. I get that he plays to win, but I think he knew that he wasn't going to make it, then was surprised by it all. There are choices out there, but he relied too heavily on people who hated him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:54 PM (KZzsI)

252 There may well be a record % of people skeptical or completely contemptuous of the "press", but look around you at most of the country, how it's run, what people seem to "think". It can be difficult to separate the effects of poor education, toxic pop culture, and a press that misinforms and distorts, but the results aren't hard to find.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (OTzUX)

The Murray Gell-Mann Effect. When you read what the press says about something you know about, you see that they're idiots, yet for some reason you believe everything else they say.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (BMmaB)

253 247 >>>My husband should eat a low purine diet because he has gout, but the info on diets for gout seems to be a little contradictory.-aside from no beef and no alcohol and no shellfish.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2021 12:50 PM (VP4Cd)
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I've heard something about carrot juice.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (lgiXo)

254 osted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog saw the Joint Chiefs of Staff lie to and disobey the President at February 10, 2021 12:54 PM (geGrP)

Thanks; He was having cherry juice for a while. Then we forgot about it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (VP4Cd)

255 One thing I learned in business is that executives tend to manage from the perspective of how they came up through an organization.

For example, a salesman who become a CEO will treat the company as a big sales force. An operations guy will see everything as production schedules and targets. An owner's son will see all employees as serfs,....

Trump saw gov. the way a dealmaker sees things - he put people into position, but then tried to cajole and win them over. He had good instincts, but did not use force and dirty tricks to control those who worked for him. Most of the Lefty politicians will destroy people who go against them; I do not think that could work on the Right since gov. is basically a Lefty domain, but regardless Trump was unwilling to take that route. He destroyed people with tweets, but did not appear to play hardball with his enemies.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (LWu6U)

256 Someone pointed out how silly it is to call the crowd insurrectionists because how are they going to stage a successful coup with no weapons? Were they going to wave their flags and sing "God Bless America" until the swampsters surrendered?

Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (ofYez)

257 Know one person above you. Know five below you. Make a point of never communicating higher or lower than those levels. If you're serious about building a network, that's a decent way to start.

Posted by: Pierre at February 10, 2021 12:53 PM (oT1NJ)

What we need is someone above and below. So far any organizing is very flat. Which is fine, affinity groups are better to avoid infiltrators, but it's not an organization.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (ifmtJ)

258 >Mr. Gray posted in the art thread that the head of the Oathkeepers is a freakkin' FBI section chief. Pair that with the head of the Proud Boys being an FBI informant, and it looks like this is all political theater/FBI framime job.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2021 12:41 PM (bDqIh)

Oathkeepers always felt like a honeypot to me, I'm not at all surprised.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (DXFDM)

259 The majik boolit. Kennedy - Connolly.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (fjZl+)

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I didn't see shit.....
Posted by: The Grassy Knoll at February 10, 2021 12:45 PM (jvt6t)
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Neither did I
Posted by: Drain culvert at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM

*takes a puff*

Posted by: The Cigarette Smoking Man at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (ejd/p)

260 they were harmless and just had meetings where they learned about the Constitution.

That is literally the greatest threat to our form of government that there is.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (yQpMk)

261 He really should have crossed the Rubicon in January. I was holding out hope that he had some amazing plan to tear the Biden's apart from the inside, but it really does look like he lost his nerve. Not quite as shameful as always being on the enemy side, but still. Caesar would have killed to have that kind of military advantage over his enemies.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 12:48 PM (0HpOW)

I dunno. I'm a perennial Trump supporter so this will be obvious coming from me, but "lost his nerve" is a harsh for a dude with two swinging planets for balls.

I can't make *excuses* for Trump not "stopping the steal" as it were, but NOBODY knows what is on the line in those situations. I'm talking involving his family especially. What DJT put on the chopping block in service to his voters and the citizens of this country is not calculable. I don't mean to make him into some kind of war hero but how else does one describe it?

In a galaxy where ever single comet and star is a sellout at some price or other, he never sold us out. It means something to me.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (jBRLB)

262 We will see how long it lasts. Not that I can touch it for another 7 years.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (5p7BC)

Pon Farr. I understand completely.

Posted by: Mr. Spock at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (Izzlo)

263 236 Is anything real anymore? Are we living in the Twilight Zone?
Posted by: dantesed

we're in one of the extra dimensions created by the Large Hadron Collider. it's the only theory that fits the observations.

Posted by: x4 at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (oA+QO)

264 Trump made a lot of money post election. Very little was it was spent on lawyering. He never really thought he could stop the steal.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (DAWrM)

265 BTW, the Mighty Ducks suck.

Posted by: @RangersFan69 at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (DMUuz)

266 >>>The pressure on Trump and level of betrayal from his own countrymen and likely the world, is unlike anything any modern president has faced.

We tend to forget it because he made a lot of impossible things look very easy.
Posted by:...

Agreed. He made mistakes, sure, but no one has ever had to deal with the treachery from both parties like Trump has.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (qoNQ/)

267 Idiots ruling through bigger idiots, aided by institutions staffed by morons.
Posted by: Dr. DJ3Way at February 10, 2021 12:42 PM (bhPL1)

That is memorable. I should write it down, lest I forget anyways. Good line.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (z79tQ)

268 > As much as people talk about JFK, the RFK "magic bullet" is even more preposterous.

The JFK shooting "magic bullet" theory is stupid because you don't need a magic bullet to explain the evidence.

The moron who proposed one needed a bullet to stop and turn in space in order to take the path shown by the evidence didn't take into account the jump seat position was different than the position of the seat they assumed was there.

In other words, they got their facts wrong, assumed the shooting victims were in positions they weren't, then tried to make a proof by contradiction to convince people the official story was a lie. All they really proved is they didn't understand the facts in front of them.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2021 12:57 PM (UW2ZS)

269 "This is not the end of the persecution of Trump"

Worse than that, they are going to murder his children, so that no future Trumpian steps up to defend us.

And we will talk trash about keeping our powder dry and how they will rue the day they did this. And then Do Nothing.

We deserve to be oppressed.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 12:57 PM (NbRTU)

270 Were they going to wave their flags and sing "God Bless America" until the swampsters surrendered?

Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (ofYez)

That might have actually worked.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 12:57 PM (jBRLB)

271 Henry "Enrique" Tarrio helped law enforcement in a variety of investigations nearly a decade ago by providing information and going undercover, the records show.

Going undercover is a lot more than just coughyup a name.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 12:57 PM (fjZl+)

272 >>>Funny how they don't continually show the video of Ashli Babbitt being murdered in cold blood.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 12:52 PM (qoNQ/)
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The media doesn't tell you what to think
It tells you what to think about
_Howard K. Smith

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog saw the Joint Chiefs of Staff lie to and disobey the President at February 10, 2021 12:57 PM (geGrP)

273 Trump's refusal to keep fighting is one of the more depressing parts of all this.
The Deep State told us they were going to jail him and his family if he lost the election and now they are working to jail him...and soon his family.
Much harder to fight this as a private citizen then as the President.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2021 12:58 PM (qlFIA)

274 Nothing the "media" reports is real. Seriously. Nothing. And for that, they should severely, severely punished.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 10, 2021 12:58 PM (O+I8R)

275 BTW, the Mighty Ducks suck.

- -

Emilio Estevez was a decent coach, but at the end of the day he didn't have the D on the team to make a good stand alone team. Plot Armor to the rescue, sadly.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at February 10, 2021 12:58 PM (C+We0)

276 *takes a puff*

Posted by: The Cigarette Smoking Man at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (ejd/p)

How 'bout "the bums behind the fence"?

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2021 12:58 PM (AwYPR)

277 was the guy executed? let's not toss that "successfully" around carelessly.
Posted by: x4

Ramzi Yusef is in the Supermax prison in Colorado, where he will remain for the rest of his life.
And his uncle, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, is still in Gitmo, awaiting some final decision about his fate. Because "friends of Eric Holder", in his law firm, fought tooth and nail against military tribunals, etc.

Our justice system at work.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM (vcOmj)

278 House impeachment manger Jamie Raskin, was born and grew up in DC, impeccable Ivy League credentials and now represents a nearby upper class district.close to DC This asshole IS the swamp. His whole presentation I so far has been a pack of lies, smears and distortions including the BS about the murdered officer..They are doing this to ex-president Trump but are doing it to all of us. If Trump made the mistake of going to the hearing I believe he would be arrested and dragged out in chains, they are that rabid. This is what they think of us and will do to us if they can. No doubt in my mind.

Posted by: Ripley at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM (MxEKc)

279 So we keep hearing that 4 died. Of those who died 3 were officers? Two officers died of Suicide after the Jan 6 rally. One officer died by stroke or by other means to be determined from this article.

So really only one person died on Jan 6. That person was shot by an unidentified officer and there has been little to no public curiosity on who that officer was or any public investigation into the shooting.

Do I have my facts correct?

Posted by: Picric at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM (jwox8)

280 Even if all the troops supported it (also absurd), there's no way all the senior officers required to make it happen would be on board.

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 12:53 PM (8Xolh)

I don't know how or why Americans think that military support has to be unanimous for this kind of thing. Pinochet and Caesar made their advances with far worse odds. Yes, there was no shortage of traitors among the senior officer corps, but the solution there is also time tested.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM (0HpOW)

281 >>>If the Fulton DA can go after PDT, then why isn't some red-area GA DA going after the new GA Senators for promising $2k for the voting public's vote?
Posted by: EveR

Because they're in one the scam. There is no longer a red and a blue. They're all blue,

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM (qoNQ/)

282 256 Someone pointed out how silly it is to call the crowd insurrectionists because how are they going to stage a successful coup with no weapons? Were they going to wave their flags and sing "God Bless America" until the swampsters surrendered?
Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2021 12:55 PM (ofYez)

Buffalo Guy was supposed to be the new Speaker of the House.

Posted by: josephistan at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM (Izzlo)

283 The JFK shooting "magic bullet" theory is stupid because you don't need a magic bullet to explain the evidence.

Yeah I watched a very simple, very direct explanation of what took place and it all falls together quite well without need of any shenanigans, extra shooters, or conspiracy. JFK was just blown up to be such a stupendous figure despite being at best mediocre that some could not stand the thought of him just being shot dead by a crazed communist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:00 PM (KZzsI)

284 He never really thought he could stop the steal.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 10, 2021 12:56 PM (DAWrM)

When I talk about "stopping the steal" I also mean taking action beforehand. I was hopeful but off the bandwagon once we got to around mid November and the kraken dates kept moving up.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 01:00 PM (jBRLB)

285 Because they're in one the scam. There is no longer a red and a blue. They're all blue,

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM (qoNQ/)

Red.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 01:00 PM (jBRLB)

286 Our justice system ~~at work~~ atwerk.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM

FIFY

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 10, 2021 01:00 PM (ejd/p)

287 Yes, the deal about "believing" the press. I am quite amazed at how many people DO BELIEVE THE PRESS.
How else would you explain the survey that even if the mask mandates are lifted, 2/3 (TWO THIRDS!) of people are going to continue to wear them?
If this isn't proof positive that people do believe the press, I don't know what is.
People are really stupid. Even in China the people know the news is all propaganda 24/7. Us, not so much.
***sigh***

Posted by: charlotte the sailor the dims SUCK at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (/rsCS)

288 "He really should have crossed the Rubicon in January. I was holding out hope that he had some amazing plan to tear the Biden's apart from the inside, but it really does look like he lost his nerve."

Again, as with Barr, I think he accurately read the FEBA and realized that for all our talk, we wouldn't have his back.

Look at all the things we have allowed the Left to do to us without consequence, because we are afraid of some punk on MSNBC sliming us as violent extremists. Why should anyone trust us to defend them when we won't even defend ourselves?

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (NbRTU)

289 From the piece "The US Capitol building is one of the most video surveilled buildings on Planet Earth. And yet no internal video footage has been released by Federal authorities, or has been promised to be made available"
I made this point on an open thread a few days ago. They have stills from the capitol security footage in the FBI charging documents but NO FUCKING VIDEO!

I bet that it isn't being released because it shows people calmly wandering around and being respectful (you know, walking between the velvet ropes) and police allowing them to go where they want.

Posted by: Timon at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (q4X5T)

290 Henry "Enrique" Tarrio helped law enforcement in a variety of investigations nearly a decade ago by providing information and going undercover, the records show.

And based on that, people are assuming he's some big FBI Mole like a movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (KZzsI)

291 283 The JFK shooting "magic bullet" theory is stupid because you don't need a magic bullet to explain the evidence.

Yeah I watched a very simple, very direct explanation of what took place and it all falls together quite well without need of any shenanigans, extra shooters, or conspiracy. JFK was just blown up to be such a stupendous figure despite being at best mediocre that some could not stand the thought of him just being shot dead by a crazed communist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:00 PM (KZzsI)

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He would have probably lost re-election in 64.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (NWM+b)

292 And for that, they should severely, severely punished.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 10, 2021 12:58 PM (O+I8R)

Go on...

I mean - that's a terrible thing to say.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (jBRLB)

293 256 Someone pointed out how silly it is to call the crowd insurrectionists
because how are they going to stage a successful coup with no weapons?
Were they going to wave their flags and sing "God Bless America" until
the swampsters surrendered?
they could have at least brought trumpets...

Posted by: The Walls of Jericho at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (v3pYe)

294 If the Fulton DA can go after PDT, then why isn't some red-area GA DA going after the new GA Senators
I pointed out years ago that while Hillary/Bill Clinton were protected in NY by hard left partisans that the Clinton foundation also had an office in Arkansas.

Nothing was stopping the AG of Arkansas from rolling up the Clinton network at any time and yet...nothing.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (qlFIA)

295 "Someone pointed out how silly it is"

That'll show em!

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (NbRTU)

296 What we need is someone above and below. So far any organizing is very
flat. Which is fine, affinity groups are better to avoid infiltrators,
but it's not an organization.
Very true. We're just talking here, of course - because it would be nutty to discuss such things in any other terms. I've been studying the origins of stuff like the Corn Bread Mafia. Luckily - quite a bit of source material is right around me. Including some of the players. They're kinda' like minded.

Posted by: Pierre at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (oT1NJ)

297 All the world's a stage.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (YA914)

298 Huh. I'm getting Waterford crystal ads at the HQ.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (ptqGC)

299 continues insisting that Sicknick was "murdered," and a case can be made "without any ambiguity" that the president is guilty of conspiracy to commit this "murder."

I have a question. If Trump is guilty of conspiracy to commit this "murder," why isn't the mayor of Minneapolis guilty of conspiracy to "murder" George Floyd? After all, Chauvin was following the restraint policy of his police department, so the mayor was complicit, no?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (A68IW)

300 Oh yay, another thread where "we" get lectured by the same commenter about what "we're" not doing and what's going to happen to "us".

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (8Xolh)

301 conspiracy sock off

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (jvt6t)

302 He really should have crossed the Rubicon in January. I was holding out hope that he had some amazing plan to tear the Biden's apart from the inside, but it really does look like he lost his nerve.

I think he looked at what would have happened to the country he loved, how many would die, and how badly he was betrayed and just wanted to go home.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (KZzsI)

303 Henry "Enrique" Tarrio helped law enforcement in a variety of investigations nearly a decade ago by providing information and going undercover, the records show.

And based on that, people are assuming he's some big FBI Mole like a movie.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Because of a fraud charge.
And once they own you, they own you.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (fjZl+)

304 Re: Trump's "stop the steal" options, I find Patrick Byrne's account (I think now completed) interesting.

In it, Trump comes across as something of a spent force, with his personal loyalty to Rudy being a major strategic flaw (Rudy was in way over his head for a complex cyber fraud case).

I find Bryne's account to be plausible, but I'm somewhat cautious on how much it praises Powell and Flynn.

Bottom line (IMO): There was never any plan. Trump went to bed on Nov. 3rd confident he won the election. The campaign's flailing attempts to "stop the steal" didn't possess the coherence needed to fight that case. Trump was ill-served by his lawyers. The GOP didn't do the legwork it needed to choke off potential avenues of fraud in the lead-up to the election. The attempt to get state legislatures to re-take their power and declare the election fraudulent was a naive approach.

The Texas litigation came out of left-field and was probably Trump's best chance at winning.

Posted by: Revenant at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (T4RS9)

305 133 Went to the US Capitol Police website on this and they say that he did return to his office Wednesday night and then collapsed and was transferred to the hospital where he died the next day. They only mention that he died of injuries incurred at the 2/6 protest.
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Could be he had a brain aneurysm that burst. The timing of it was just coincidental. Went back to his office, was fine, then passed out cold for no apparent reason. Happens with aneurysms.

Whatever caused it, the fact that the autopsy has been done and the findings have not been made public pretty much says it all. If his COD had been in any way related to the Capitol protests, it would have been screamed from every headline.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM (k4dH2)

306 All the world's a stage.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (YA914)

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And we are merely players.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM (gxbWO)

307 264. What in the hell are you actually trying to say? That Trump defrauded donors out of stop the steal mone?

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM (hH9zb)

308 Guess you all heard the Boss was Sauced. Springsteen picked up for DWI in Jersey.

Guess he will do a PSA and get off easy.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM (rdbLX)

309 He would have probably lost re-election in 64

Yeah, almost certainly. He didn't have much support, wasn't getting much of anything done. It was only after his death that all this mythology grew up and he became this heroic figure. JFK was a meh president who spent most of his time on drugs and chasing skirts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (KZzsI)

310 "People are really stupid"

PJ Media still believes that shaming the Left over their hypocrisy is a valid tactic...

Most days I feel like I am watching the Right throw to 1st base as the batter rounds 3rd.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (NbRTU)

311 >>>All they really proved is they didn't understand the facts in front of them.
Posted by: bonhomme

The Documentary "The Kennedy Detail" interviewed the SS agents who were there. To a man, they all said Oswald made the shot - alone. Then stated it horrified him that a nobody could do such damage to the country. The doc is excellent. It's on History Channel occasionally.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (qoNQ/)

312 298 Huh. I'm getting Waterford crystal ads at the HQ.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (ptqGC)

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A classy establishment.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (jvt6t)

313 The car Kennady was riding in, the front bench is a different size than the back bench. The "magic" bullet theory assumes they were the same. An easy assumption.

Posted by: Grail Knight at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (i7zmO)

314 298 Huh. I'm getting Waterford crystal ads at the HQ.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (ptqGC)

And it's not even the hooity-tooity Book Thread.

Posted by: josephistan at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (Izzlo)

315 Trump's refusal to keep fighting is one of the more depressing parts of all this.
The Deep State told us they were going to jail him and his family if he lost the election and now they are working to jail him...and soon his family.
Much harder to fight this as a private citizen then as the President.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2021 12:58 PM (qlFIA)

I don't believe he's not fighting. Not to go complete Wictor, but I do believe he is working on his own timetable and we need to see what's next. One of the hardest lessons I ever learned from a boss was to wait. My personality is to want to do everything I can as quickly as I can, but this particular boss had a much better sense of timing. Waiting to act is frustrating, but sometimes it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (BMmaB)

316 Imagine how fun Deep Fake videos will be when all the world lives life through their 10 square inches of touchscreen.

All of human consciousness will be controlled by Satan, save for those who are awake in Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (YA914)

317 How else would you explain the survey that even if the mask mandates are lifted, 2/3 (TWO THIRDS!) of people are going to continue to wear them?

Posted by: charlotte the sailor the dims SUCK at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (/rsCS)

Idk. I think most people just don't care about the masks because it's not much of a hardship. Even if the masks don't do anything, wearing one doesn't put much of a strain on you.

Now, if they said people couldn't use the internet anymore, shit would hit the fan.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (1ISKN)

318 After Tarrio's 2012 indictment, he helped the government prosecute more than a dozen other people, the federal prosecutor told the judge, according to the transcript. Tarrio's lawyer said he was the first defendant to cooperate in the case and was also involved in a variety of police undercover operations involving things like anabolic steroids and prescription narcotics.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (fjZl+)

319 And we are merely players.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM (gxbWO)

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.....aaaaand here we go.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (jvt6t)

320 And once they own you, they own you.

Even assuming this is true (its not), that doesn't translate into "he's working for the FBI undercover". Cops use informants until they're no longer valuable or can provide anything for them. Past a certain point old charges can't even be used against you unless its a capital crime. 7 years is the usual limit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:05 PM (KZzsI)

321 >>>306 All the world's a stage.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (YA914)
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And we are merely players.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM (gxbWO)

Performers and portrayers

Posted by: banana Dream at February 10, 2021 01:05 PM (sqH0x)

322 "The GOP didn't do the legwork it needed to choke off potential avenues of fraud in the lead-up to the election."

Allowing mail-in ballots was just asking to have the election stolen. The GOP was meh about that.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:05 PM (NbRTU)

323 Why isn't Sicknick's family speaking out? I haven't been following the story that much because rage headaches.

The Revolver guy was on War Room this morning, but I was doing chores and not paying much attention. I wish I had.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at February 10, 2021 01:05 PM (ptqGC)

324 It is entirely possible that Trump knew there was major corruption in the higher levels of government because he actually KNEW those people.

It is also entirely possible that he believed that the average government worker was a real patriot who was interested in the good of the country and it's citizens because the working people he knew and loved were like that.

I am sure he was surprised to find that virtually no one involved in government in DC gives a rat's ass about the country or the citizens but have all sold out to the socialist'd ideals and graft.

I know I was shocked to find there weren't any good people in government AT ALL who were waiting for a patriot in the White House to come forth and set things right.

Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at February 10, 2021 01:05 PM (J6Fgy)

325 And we are merely players.

Performers and portrayers?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:06 PM (KZzsI)

326 Performers and portrayers

Posted by: SFGoth at February 10, 2021 01:06 PM (KAi1n)

327 310 PJ Media still believes that shaming the Left over their hypocrisy is a valid tactic...

Most days I feel like I am watching the Right throw to 1st base as the batter rounds 3rd.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (NbRTU)
Yeah, well this would assume that the libtards actually care. They know they can get by with hypocrisy every day, all day, with the help of the a$$ licking press.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor the dims SUCK at February 10, 2021 01:06 PM (/rsCS)

328 Media's obsession with deepfake video/audio this week shows that they know the only real remaining threat to their narrative control is actual boots on the ground recording.

They are doing trial runs on un-happening things by bringing up real video of real things over the last few years they wish there wasn't video of, then claiming that they're examples of deepfake tech.

Posted by: someguy at February 10, 2021 01:06 PM (BRmwW)

329 we're in one of the extra dimensions created by the Large Hadron Collider. it's the only theory that fits the observations.

Not "created," "unfolded" Use the proper terminology! Keep in mind that the Horde has many members on the cutting edge of physics!

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 01:06 PM (FWn1L)

330
Oh yay, another thread where "we" get lectured by the same commenter
about what "we're" not doing and what's going to happen to "us".

Gimme' a mailing address. I'll send you a mouse with a scroll wheel.

Posted by: Pierre at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (oT1NJ)

331 >>>"The US Capitol building is one of the most video surveilled buildings on Planet Earth. And yet no internal video footage has been released by Federal authorities, or has been promised to be made available"
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Be patient. They are still editing it.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog saw the Joint Chiefs of Staff lie to and disobey the President at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (geGrP)

332 I have a question. If Trump is guilty of conspiracy to commit this "murder," why isn't the mayor of Minneapolis guilty of conspiracy to "murder" George Floyd? After all, Chauvin was following the restraint policy of his police department, so the mayor was complicit, no?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (A68IW)

Under this standard, Bernie was responsible for Steve Scalise's attempted murder.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (BMmaB)

333 I miss Rush.

RIP Neil Peart.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (ifmtJ)

334 >>>The GOP didn't do the legwork it needed to choke off potential avenues of fraud in the lead-up to the election.

Which is why none of us should ever vote for the GOP again. *Yes, I know free and fair elections are gone, but you get my point.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (qoNQ/)

335 My first thought on the Capitol riot was 'if you strike at the king, you'd better kill him'. We had an army in DC. We could've changed the direction of the country. Instead, we went home. The GOP betrayed us again. Trump's supporters apologized. Trump slunk away. At the moment, it looks like we are truly conquered.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (ftFVW)

336 PJ Media still believes that shaming the Left over their hypocrisy is a valid tactic

This, I agree with. The left not only has no shame, but does not even recognize the validity of the tactic. There is no such thing as hypocrisy to them; they are comfortably able to hold contradictory ideas at the same time because truth and reason are white supremacist concepts they reject.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

337 Why isn't Sicknick's family speaking out?

Because we don't have their back.

*touches nose*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (yQpMk)

338 The car Kennady was riding in, the front bench is a different size than the back bench. The "magic" bullet theory assumes they were the same. An easy assumption.
Posted by: Grail Knight at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (i7zmO)

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I watched a documentary where they recreated the whole shot using elevated shooting platformsm, a recreation of the vehicle, ballistic gelatin dummies etc.

They pretty much recreated the "magic bullet" shot at will, along with the Govenors wounds AND the pristine bullet.

Pretty fascinating.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (gxbWO)

339 Again, as with Barr, I think he accurately read the FEBA and realized that for all our talk, we wouldn't have his back.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (NbRTU)

The vast majority of Americans are much, much more conformist than their legends (Internationale on the left, cowboys on the right) would suggest. But that works the other way: if Trump really had told his supporters to storm the Capitol, even a tenth would have been sufficient to kill everyone inside. And that's assuming they were unarmed.

At some point you can't blame people for acting without leadership. Tashfeen Malik and Kyle Rittenhouse have proved extraordinarily brave by this measure, but it's also incredibly rare.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (0HpOW)

340 Time magazine told you what happened with the election.

They had "pressure points" against every possible avenue of obtaining the real election result (Trump wins).

That includes the R legislatures and as we know, even the SC. There isn't a person in the world who had a chance to make things with the election right because all the roads were carefully guarded and all the pieces were in place at every needed level.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (jBRLB)

341 Guess you all heard the Boss was Sauced. Springsteen picked up for DWI in Jersey.

Guess he will do a PSA and get off easy.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM

One too many at that ol' roadside bar with a buddy, huh?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (ejd/p)

342 Performers and portrayers

--

All the world's indeed a stage...

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (O+I8R)

343 223 It looks like the shooting of Ashli Babbit may have been staged. She and those around the shooting were just actors. That is why they won't recommend charges or name the shooter. Nobody was shot.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DYlb92zMkj41/
Posted by: Hawk_TX at February 10, 2021 12:49 PM (bkyPB

I just can't imagine that level of coordination. Hmmmm.

Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (ofYez)

344 By the way, I don't know what the Democrats think they're doing. It seems to me that they're continuing to put the election in question.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (BMmaB)

345 I have a question. If Trump is guilty of conspiracy to commit this "murder," why isn't the mayor of Minneapolis guilty of conspiracy to "murder" George Floyd? After all, Chauvin was following the restraint policy of his police department, so the mayor was complicit, no?
_____________

All the cops involved in that incident were acting according to their training -- the training they had received from the black Democrat run police force.

If the cops are guilty of murder, then so are the PD higher ups who approved that training.

I'm so looking forward to the trials, and seeing how the MSM avoids reporting the actual facts and evidence so they can keep pushing their bullshit narrative.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (k4dH2)

346 "The GOP didn't do the legwork it needed to choke off potential avenues of fraud in the lead-up to the election."

Allowing mail-in ballots was just asking to have the election stolen. The GOP was meh about that.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:05 PM (NbRTU)

They don't deserve that benefit of doubt. They were and are complicit.

Posted by: 4 at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (KnJdm)

347 >>> 326 Performers and portrayers
Posted by: SFGoth at February 10, 2021 01:06 PM (KAi1n)

Each another's audience outside a gilded stage

Posted by: banana Dream at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (sqH0x)

348 I posit that the state GOP parties did not do anything about the mail-in voting because they wanted Trump gone as much as the dems.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (9mfKN)

349 I don't know how or why Americans think that military support has to be unanimous for this kind of thing. Pinochet and Caesar made their advances with far worse odds. Yes, there was no shortage of traitors among the senior officer corps, but the solution there is also time tested.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 12:59 PM (0HpOW)
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Because what you're talking about requires logistics? Logistics and requisitions and equipment that the troops can't just up and hop on board and rid/fly up to DC in while people in the ranks who disagree look on passively? Where are they getting the food, bullets, fuel, planes, and trucks?

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (8Xolh)

350 All the world's a stage.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (YA914)

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And we are merely players.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM (gxbWO)

Ah, my ear worm for the day.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Being Moar Dumber at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (x8Wzq)

351 304 Posted by: Revenant at February 10, 2021 01:02 PM (T4RS9)

I think Trump and all of us did think they stopped the steal when we went to bed on Election Night. In fact, I think the mail-in ballot thing failed. They came up short. BUT... I don't think anyone thought that they would do the massive, unprecedented ballot dumping on a statewide scale in 4-6 states.

No one saw that coming, I don't think or even believed the Enemy would resort to that. I have never been more wrong on something so crucial in my life because it goes against my belief system. I could not believe even they would do that. And that was stupid on my part after witnessing what they tried to do with 2016 and for the next 4 years.

I will never make that mistake again. I hope to G-d I have the chance never to make it again because this is war. Let's hope it isn't lost already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (s2VJv)

352 got a case of Zima in Baltimore, Jack
wanted a handjob real quick
roadtrip to Hackensack

Posted by: x4 at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (oA+QO)

353 Performers and portrayers

Cthillary's rule: All AOS threads will eventually quote Rush.

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (FWn1L)

354 Ah, my ear worm for the day.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Being Moar Dumber at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (x8Wzq)

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Not a bad pick either.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 01:09 PM (gxbWO)

355 >>>It is also entirely possible that he believed that the average government worker was a real patriot who was interested in the good of the country and it's citizens because the working people he knew and loved were like that.

The number of drones who believe that is probably less than 15%.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 01:09 PM (qoNQ/)

356 " "The GOP didn't do the legwork it needed to choke off potential avenues of fraud in the lead-up to the election.""

Because they didn't want to choke off the fraud. The GOP is a giant fraud.

Posted by: someguy at February 10, 2021 01:09 PM (BRmwW)

357 Each another's audience upon the gilded stage

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (KZzsI)

358 322. There were over 400 court cases regarding change of election laws due to Covid etc in the year of 2020. Some the GOP won some were swept under the rug a la Roberts decision in Pa to worry about mail in deadlines after the election. The idea that the GOP was meh about it is completely erroneous.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (hH9zb)

359 Guess you all heard the Boss was Sauced. Springsteen picked up for DWI in Jersey.

Guess he will do a PSA and get off easy.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 10, 2021 01:03 PM

If only what happened to Harry Chapin happened to Springsteen instead.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (s2VJv)

360 The NYT is the paper of record.

Posted by: Dan Rather at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (2BZBZ)

361 NYT has far surpassed Pravda at this point, you simply can't ever believe anything they say.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (r+sAi)

362 Cthillary's rule: All AOS threads will eventually quote Rush.
Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM

Except for those LifeLock commercials. Those are annoying.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (ejd/p)

363 How else would you explain the survey that even if the mask mandates are lifted, 2/3 (TWO THIRDS!) of people are going to continue to wear them?

Posted by: charlotte the sailor the dims SUCK at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (/rsCS)

Polls are just mind control now, and rarely reflective or reality?

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (jBRLB)

364 Why isn't Sicknick's family speaking out?

How do you know they aren't?

How would you know if they were?

You know what you are allowed to know.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (YA914)

365 360 The NYT is the paper of ~~record~~ my balls.

Posted by: Dan Rather at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (2BZBZ)

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (1ISKN)

366 > Yeah, almost certainly. He didn't have much support, wasn't getting much of anything done. It was only after his death that all this mythology grew up and he became this heroic figure. JFK was a meh president who spent most of his time on drugs and chasing skirts.

I am annoyed that a lot of people believe the Cuban Missile Crisis was resolved by brilliant and deft maneuvering on the part of JFK. They had an informant in Khrushchev's inner circle that was feeding Kennedy information on Khrushchev's mood and mindset pretty much the whole time.

Kennedy handled it well enough, but the version most people believe, largely based on a well-executed fictional film, is myth.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (UW2ZS)

367 Time magazine told you what happened with the election.

They had "pressure points" against every possible avenue of obtaining the real election result (Trump wins).

****

That's a terrible thing to say.

Posted by: Mr. Gray #33 at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (HBEnm)

368 we're in one of the extra dimensions created by the Large Hadron Collider. it's the only theory that fits the observations.

Not "created," "unfolded" Use the proper terminology! Keep in mind that the Horde has many members on the cutting edge of physics!
Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 01:06 PM (FWn1L)

I think I dimension-hopped back during the Clinton Admin. My old universe made a lot more sense than this one. It's like I went into a Star Trek mirror universe, but instead of evil, this one is just stupid and incoherent.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (F9rav)

369 "I have a question. If Trump is guilty of conspiracy to commit this "murder," why isn't the mayor of Minneapolis guilty of conspiracy to "murder" George Floyd?"

Because this is Calvinball.

When they hit the garage door, it's a home run.
When you hit the garage door, it's an automatic out.

We cannot shame the Left as hypocrites, we cannot expect equal protection under the law. No offense, but I really wish we stop shelling hills the enemy doesn't occupy. It's a waste of time, energy and ammo.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (NbRTU)

370 He would have probably lost re-election in 64.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 10, 2021 01:01 PM (NWM+b)

Which is why he was in Dallas in the first place, struggling in his campaign to get re-elected. He was, in essence, the product of affirmative action for Celts.

Fun factoid: Richard Nixon was across town in Dallas when Kennedy got whacked.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (A68IW)

371 Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:04 PM (NbRTU)

I still have yet to see you post your manifesto for action.

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (8Xolh)

372 All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages.
--William Shakespeare
As You Like It, Act II, Scene VII

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (KZzsI)

373 >>>I posit that the state GOP parties did not do anything about the mail-in voting because they wanted Trump gone as much as the dems.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad)

After the election, a PA State Senator was on a Philly talk show stating they believed in mailed-in ballots, even after the steal. "We just need to tighten the restrictions."

Assholes didn't learn a thing.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (qoNQ/)

374 "Someone pointed out how silly it is to call the crowd insurrectionists
because how are they going to stage a successful coup with no weapons?
Were they going to wave their flags and sing "God Bless America" until
the swampsters surrendered?Posted by: Emmie"

They didn't even seize the bridges or NPR headquarters. No way they were serious. Worst coup planning ever.

Posted by: Ripley at February 10, 2021 01:12 PM (MxEKc)

375 I think Trump and all of us did think they stopped the steal when we went to bed on Election Night.

I enjoy a good "I told you so", as we all know - so let me tell you where I was flat ass damned wrong. I went to bed, with Trump still up pretty good in PA - looked at a couple other totals, added in a 5% steal factor - and told my wife "He's got this - gonna' be close, but they can't rig THAT much fraud and get away with it".

I was wrong as a dog with two dicks.

Posted by: Pierre at February 10, 2021 01:12 PM (oT1NJ)

376 372 As You Like It, Act II, Scene VII
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (KZzsI)

"Like, As You Like, Like It"

- - Like William Shakespeare, Like

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2021 01:12 PM (s2VJv)

377 Andy McCarthy is self-sucking dick. He should come up for air once and awhile.

Posted by: Marcus T, Unforgiven at February 10, 2021 01:12 PM (VpIIl)

378 >>> The vast majority of Americans are much, much more conformist than their legends (Internationale on the left, cowboys on the right) would suggest. But that works the other way: if Trump really had told his supporters to storm the Capitol, even a tenth would have been sufficient to kill everyone inside. And that's assuming they were unarmed.

At some point you can't blame people for acting without leadership. Tashfeen Malik and Kyle Rittenhouse have proved extraordinarily brave by this measure, but it's also incredibly rare.
Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:07 PM (0HpOW)

Menckin's treatise on America "The American Credo" says pretty much the same, and that it's because we all want to belong. He said that is the core American desire. Can't argue with that in my experience with other people.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 10, 2021 01:12 PM (sqH0x)

379 "No one saw that coming, I don't think or even believed the Enemy would resort to that. I have never been more wrong on something so crucial in my life because it goes against my belief system. I could not believe even they would do that. And that was stupid on my part after witnessing what they tried to do with 2016 and for the next 4 years.

I will never make that mistake again. I hope to G-d I have the chance never to make it again because this is war. Let's hope it isn't lost already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (s2VJv)"

I wouldn't say "nobody" saw it coming. I would say that polite society spend a couple of decades after the mid-90's pretending that these people did not, and would not kill Americans to seize power.

They did; they do; they will. Ballot stuffing is small potatoes.

Posted by: someguy at February 10, 2021 01:12 PM (BRmwW)

380 341 Guess you all heard the Boss was Sauced. Springsteen picked up for DWI in Jersey.

Why do rich people drive themselves? Were I rich, I'd certainly have a driver so I could pass out in the back.

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (FWn1L)

381 Ah, my ear worm for the day.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Being Moar Dumber at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (x8Wzq)

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Not a bad pick either.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2021 01:09 PM (gxbWO)

Yes. Much better than Starland Vocal Band or whatever other crap I overhear on any given day.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Being Moar Dumber at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (x8Wzq)

382 I will never make that mistake again. I hope to G-d I have the
chance never to make it again because this is war. Let's hope it isn't
lost already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (s2VJv)

Bears repeating. All of it, but new rules force truncation.

Posted by: 4 at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (KnJdm)

383 Fun factoid: Richard Nixon was across town in Dallas when Kennedy got whacked.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I'll bet he had just left a meeting with Ted Cruz's dad.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (fjZl+)

384

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (K2SnJ)

385 >We deserve to be oppressed.
Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 12:57 PM (NbRTU)

Got a turd in your pocket?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (DXFDM)

386 Andrew McCarthy is an asshole. Always has been and always will be. That's why one asshole quotes another.

Posted by: hugh janus at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (u+hAv)

387 >>>I posit that the state GOP parties did not do anything about the mail-in voting because they wanted Trump gone as much as the dems.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (9mfKN)

======

That's a terrible thing to say.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (MmfuU)

388 I posit that the state GOP parties did not do anything about the mail-in voting because they wanted Trump gone as much as the dems.

Indeed, which goes back to my guess that had Pence shown the slightest bit of courage and thrown the election to state legislatures, Biden would have won -- but this time it would have been valid.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)

389 All the world's a facemask, and we must merely add layers.

Posted by: Dr. Fauci, Czar of Pandemics at February 10, 2021 01:14 PM (HI3xr)

390 380 341 Guess you all heard the Boss was Sauced. Springsteen picked up for DWI in Jersey.

Why do rich people drive themselves? Were I rich, I'd certainly have a driver so I could pass out in the back.
Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (FWn1L)

Because driving is fun.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:14 PM (9mfKN)

391 No one saw that coming, I don't think or even believed the Enemy would resort to that. I have never been more wrong on something so crucial in my life because it goes against my belief system. I could not believe even they would do that. And that was stupid on my part after witnessing what they tried to do with 2016 and for the next 4 years.

I will never make that mistake again. I hope to G-d I have the chance never to make it again because this is war. Let's hope it isn't lost already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (s2VJv)

J.J., we haven't lost. We haven't yet begun to fight. I'm with you that I never would have believed 3 months ago that the Democrats would be so brazen as to steal a national election with all of us watching, but they did it. It's not over, though. This is a long war, and that was a setback, but not the end of the story. The story is still unfolding.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 01:14 PM (BMmaB)

392 Like William Shakespeare, Like

Ohmigawd, fer sure

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)

393 323 Why isn't Sicknick's family speaking out? I haven't been following the story that much because rage headaches.
______________

Maybe they think they're better off if the public believes he's a martyr.

After all, cops who die of strokes or aneurysms or other medical conditions unrelated to their jobs don't get to lie in state. They just get buried. And they don't get held up by the media as "heroes." And their families don't get invited to sit next to Jill Biden at the SOTU speech.

If the cop just died of an underlying medical condition (as seems to be the case), then he's not special, he's just like thousands of other Americans who die every day of underlying medical conditions. If he died because of the Capitol protests, on the other hand, then he's special.

Wouldn't you want your dead loved one to be viewed as special?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (k4dH2)

394 President Painted Buffalo has reduced the deficit and restored the rating of treasury bonds to AAA. You guys don't know a good thing when you see it.

Posted by: Grail Knight at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (i7zmO)

395 I'll bet he had just left a meeting with Ted Cruz's dad.

Nope. Zodiac's pop was on the grassy knoll.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (H5knJ)

396 Nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (kTF2Z)

397 "We just need to tighten the restrictions."

Assholes didn't learn a thing.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (qoNQ/)

Like chain of custody laws that were all broken? What good are laws if only YOU are supposed to abide by them?

Posted by: 4 at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (KnJdm)

398 Yes, the deal about "believing" the press. I am quite amazed at how many people DO BELIEVE THE PRESS.

That's what happens when students are dumbed down. They grow up to be dumbed-down adults who don't ever think to doubt anything they hear or read.

This just boggles my mind. At times I want to think that nobody can be that stupid only to find out I'm wrong and way too many people will believe anything.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (HaL55)

399 48 Andy McCarthy successfully prosecuted the guy who admitted to bombing the WTC.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at February 10, 2021 12:22 PM (VbI7r)

Which is . . . better than NOT successfully prosecuting the guy who admitted to bombing the WTC, yes?

Posted by: m at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (ih55y)

400 Because what you're talking about requires logistics? Logistics and requisitions and equipment that the troops can't just up and hop on board and rid/fly up to DC in while people in the ranks who disagree look on passively? Where are they getting the food, bullets, fuel, planes, and trucks?
Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 01:08 PM (8Xolh)

See, your problem is that you're looking for an excuse to fail. A major reason the American military has been getting its ass kicked by Third World militias is insisting on a huge tail of logistics in undeveloped hellholes.

Even assuming that the logistics argument held water, Trump had all the excuse he needed to flood the Capitol with soldiers and gear after January 6th. Tbh, I was sure that's what was happening. Logistics is no substitute for fighting spirit.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (0HpOW)

401 >>>We deserve to be oppressed.
Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 12:57 PM (NbRTU)

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Just curious, but what would us "having Barr's back" look like, exactly?

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (MmfuU)

402 That's a terrible thing to say.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (MmfuU)

That may be, but it certainly fits with the actions that the state GOP legislatures took, or did not take.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (9mfKN)

403 > The car Kennady was riding in, the front bench is a different size than the back bench. The "magic" bullet theory assumes they were the same. An easy assumption.

Correct. However, if one is going to trace a path in three dimensional space, and use that traversal to prove that one bullet couldn't possibly have done the damage in evidence, it's prudent to make sure one has the correct arrangement of objects in that space to, you know, offer scientific proof.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (UW2ZS)

404 Nood NYT

Posted by: josephistan at February 10, 2021 01:16 PM (Izzlo)

405 I am annoyed that a lot of people believe the Cuban Missile Crisis was resolved by brilliant and deft maneuvering on the part of JFK. They had an informant in Khrushchev's inner circle that was feeding Kennedy information on Khrushchev's mood and mindset pretty much the whole time.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2021 01:11 PM (UW2ZS)

Oleg Penkovsky. Who paid a terrible price, too. He was reportedly bound to a plank with piano wire and fed into a furnace, feet first. The KGB used to show the film to its officers to ... uh ... encourage them not to spy.

Kennedy actually caused the Cuban Missile Crisis because he struck Khruschev as a callow youth (which he was) who could be bluffed (which he probably could have been, had not Oleg Penkovsky told us that the Soviets were just bluffing).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 10, 2021 01:16 PM (A68IW)

406 >>>Like chain of custody laws that were all broken? What good are laws if only YOU are supposed to abide by them?
Posted by: 4

No good at all.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp - GOP Delenda Est at February 10, 2021 01:16 PM (qoNQ/)

407 Please stop with the Ashli Babbit wasn't really shot conspiracy crap! Her family released a statement yesterday asking people to help identify four people as witnesses to the shooting. Just because someone's family doesn't immediately attempt to profit of or politicize a tragedy doesn't mean it's some sort of conspiracy.

Posted by: PacosMojo at February 10, 2021 01:16 PM (p1rpz)

408 Fun factoid: Richard Nixon was across town in Dallas when Kennedy got whacked.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

that's a helluva coriolis adjustment

Posted by: x4 at February 10, 2021 01:17 PM (oA+QO)

409 "It looks like the shooting of Ashli Babbit may have been staged. "

Yeah, except for the burial and funeral and the dead body - it was all "staged'. why don't you call up the Family and tell them "haha it was an act" she's still alive

Damn. why is the center-right so STUPID?

Posted by: rcocean at February 10, 2021 01:17 PM (evE25)

410 If only what happened to Harry Chapin happened to Springsteen instead.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2021 01:10 PM (s2VJv)

Should have taken a taxi.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 01:17 PM (BMmaB)

411 402 That's a terrible thing to say.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (MmfuU)

That may be, but it certainly fits with the actions that the state GOP legislatures took, or did not take.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (9mfKN)

"That's a terrible thing to say" is a line that people have been tossing out at random here, lately; it's a joke, not to be taken seriously.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2021 01:17 PM (ih55y)

412 "There were over 400 court cases regarding change of election laws due to Covid etc in the year of 2020. Some the GOP won some were swept under the rug a la Roberts decision in Pa to worry about mail in deadlines after the election. The idea that the GOP was meh about it is completely erroneous."

They counted on the Rule of Law to stop election fraud, and when that failed they did... what?

Willingly participated in a rigged election and expected a different result?

Meh sums it up.

I spent several months politely asking Professor Jacobson what Red Line, if crossed, would cause him to abandon his loyalty to the Rule of Law and pick up a rifle. I couldn't understand why he never gave me even the courtesy of a response. The most generous assumption I could make was that, if the Rule of Law failed, Jacobson would retire in his private life, because he felt that if violence was required to save the Republic then the Republic was no longer worth saving.

Meh.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:17 PM (NbRTU)

413 Sicknick's family did speak out. They said the riot didn't kill him and that his death shouldn't be politicized. Then, they promptly shut up and I haven't heard a thing since.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at February 10, 2021 01:18 PM (ftFVW)

414 After this sham Impeachment hearing they will continue to go after Trump. Just look at Georgia and the SDNY. It will be nonstop. Then the people that were arrested at the Capitol will turn on him to save their asses from going to prison. This will never end.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2021 01:18 PM (NpAcC)

415 "That's a terrible thing to say" is a line that people have been tossing out at random here, lately; it's a joke, not to be taken seriously.
Posted by: m at February 10, 2021 01:17 PM (ih55y)

10-4 - thank you for the inside humor update.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:18 PM (9mfKN)

416 I left out 2 suicides because, we don't know if (a) they were suicides and (B) if they had anything to do with the riot. For all we know, these policeman killed themselves because Pelosi had them fired.

Posted by: rcocean at February 10, 2021 01:18 PM (evE25)

417 The story is still unfolding.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 01:14 PM (BMmaB)

They can't even stop the "Reunited" commercial from being drowned in vitriol, even when Youtube frantically tries to juice the stats. The left's cultural legitimacy is vanishing, which is why celebrities are increasingly reviled as traitors and boycotted. It's not a universal sentiment, but then neither was the Declaration of Independence until the war was won.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:18 PM (0HpOW)

418 415 "That's a terrible thing to say" is a line that people have been tossing out at random here, lately; it's a joke, not to be taken seriously.
Posted by: m at February 10, 2021 01:17 PM (ih55y)

10-4 - thank you for the inside humor update.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:18 PM (9mfKN)

You betcha. I only learned it a couple of threads ago.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2021 01:19 PM (ih55y)

419 Indeed, which goes back to my guess that had Pence shown the slightest
bit of courage and thrown the election to state legislatures, Biden
would have won -- but this time it would have been valid.

Which is EXACTLY why Pence did not. After the GOP made sure Trump lost, you and I both know they went right back to playing Failure Theater. They think - they still think - they can back to business as usual.

Here's another cat that puzzles me as much as Barr - why did people invest so much emotional energy into Pence ? He jumped at the VP spot because he was losing - badly - in early polling to get a second Gov term in Indiana. He's always been the roll over guy. I'm sure, just like Barr, he talked a good game to Trump, stroked the Orange Ego a bit - and that's all it takes to bullshit the old dude. But Pence has always been a shitty dude. All you have to do is look into his history. Fucker paid his personal debts with campaign money back in the day. Look it up.

Posted by: Pierre at February 10, 2021 01:19 PM (oT1NJ)

420 J.J., we haven't lost. We haven't yet begun to fight. I'm with you that I never would have believed 3 months ago that the Democrats would be so brazen as to steal a national election with all of us watching, but they did it. It's not over, though. This is a long war, and that was a setback, but not the end of the story. The story is still unfolding.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 01:14 PM (BMmaB)

This is the part of the book where I would skip to the last chapter to find out if we live free or die. I can't stand the suspense.

Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at February 10, 2021 01:19 PM (J6Fgy)

421 389 All the world's a facemask, and we must merely add layers.

I was going to change the lyrics of "Limelight" that follow to match the above line, but realized Neil Peart was way ahead of me;

Performers and portrayers
Each another's audience
Outside the gilded cage

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 10, 2021 01:20 PM (FWn1L)

422 >>>That's a terrible thing to say.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (MmfuU)

That may be, but it certainly fits with the actions that the state GOP legislatures took, or did not take.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (9mfKN)

======

Sorry. That was a way of saying "I agree with you", per a commenter's suggestion from a thread from Monday morning. I was curious to see if had become widespread yet, or faded out. Obviously it was the latter.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 10, 2021 01:20 PM (MmfuU)

423 Why isn't Sicknick's family speaking out? I haven't been following the story that much because rage headaches.

That question assumes that his family isn't a huge Biden supporting bunch of wokesters.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 01:20 PM (KZzsI)

424 Cuban Missile Crisis: Kennedy is responsible for the deaths of many men, he sucked Khrushchev's dick and let America take it up the patoot.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog saw the Joint Chiefs of Staff lie to and disobey the President at February 10, 2021 01:20 PM (geGrP)

425 "402 That's a terrible thing to say.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 10, 2021 01:13 PM (MmfuU)

That may be, but it certainly fits with the actions that the state GOP legislatures took, or did not take.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (9mfKN)"

They betrayal will be undeniable by the time The Thing happens and they ram through the slate of counterinsurgency bills. You will watch most of the state level GOP critters dance like little cymbal monkeys while the state starts to kill us.

Posted by: someguy at February 10, 2021 01:20 PM (BRmwW)

426 because he felt that if violence was required to save the Republic then the Republic was no longer worth saving.

Meh.
Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:17 PM (NbRTU)

He's not a real American and never could be. As seen by the vast betrayal by the Jacobson tribe. But they're a tiny and increasingly disliked portion of the population- they can only win if not pushed back against.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:21 PM (0HpOW)

427 You betcha. I only learned it a couple of threads ago.
Posted by: m at February 10, 2021 01:19 PM (ih55y)

U.P.? Minnesota? Milwaukee?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:21 PM (9mfKN)

428 I still can't believe that the Democrats are using their time to broadcast that they stole the election.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 10, 2021 01:22 PM (BMmaB)

429 *shocked faces at McCarthy refusing to admit wrong*

BC and I were podcasting when the whole he's dead no he's not he's alive no he's dead a lot thing was going on. You would think that's something that is pretty easily determined. But not so much.

Does anyone know if the claims that two Capitol Police have committed suicide since 1/6/21 and it's because of those events are true?

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 10, 2021 01:22 PM (GbPPJ)

430 Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:15 PM (0HpOW)

And your problem is that you're looking at fantasy. I'm looking at reality. You think soldiers feed themselves on fighting spirit? Is that fighting spirit they fire out of their weapons? Fighting spirit makes the trunks crank up and the planes go VROOOOM?

No, these are all physical objects that occupy physical space that require physical effort to move around the country. No logistical train works great for small SpecOps, but Caesar didn't cross the Rubicon with a squad.

What, you think Trump is just going to make a call down to Camp Lejeune and have the 2nd MarDiv just roll into town? That's not how any of this works.

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 01:22 PM (8Xolh)

431 Sorry. That was a way of saying "I agree with you", per a commenter's suggestion from a thread from Monday morning. I was curious to see if had become widespread yet, or faded out. Obviously it was the latter.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at February 10, 2021 01:20 PM (MmfuU)

I only post in threads about 2 times a week, so do not judge that by me.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:22 PM (9mfKN)

432 "I don't think or even believed the Enemy would resort to that."

The enemy is the Marxist Left. Currently in the guise of Neo-Marxist Post-Modernism. They are responsible for the murder of approx 120 million people in the last century alone.

We should be shooting them wherever we find them, but apparently we need to suffer more before we wake up and stop clutching our pearls about such violence.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:22 PM (NbRTU)

433 Does anyone know if the claims that two Capitol Police have committed suicide since 1/6/21 and it's because of those events are true?
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 10, 2021 01:22 PM (GbPPJ)

I just assume what they tell me is bullshit and go from there.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 10, 2021 01:24 PM (Mt/Tv)

434 "He's not a real American and never could be. As seen by the vast betrayal by the Jacobson tribe. But they're a tiny and increasingly disliked portion of the population- they can only win if not pushed back against."

I can't say I am surprised by this, based on what I witnessed over at LI several years ago, but where are you getting this from? Did I miss their sellout?

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:24 PM (NbRTU)

435 308 Guess you all heard the Boss was Sauced. Springsteen picked up for DWI in Jersey.

Guess he will do a PSA and get off easy.
prostate-specific antigen?

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 10, 2021 01:25 PM (sGtp+)

436 427 You betcha. I only learned it a couple of threads ago.
Posted by: m at February 10, 2021 01:19 PM (ih55y)

U.P.? Minnesota? Milwaukee?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at February 10, 2021 01:21 PM (9mfKN)

In honor of Sarah Palin. I've been saying it ever since.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2021 01:27 PM (ih55y)

437 No, these are all physical objects that occupy physical space that require physical effort to move around the country. No logistical train works great for small SpecOps, but Caesar didn't cross the Rubicon with a squad.

Posted by: McLurkerson at February 10, 2021 01:22 PM (8Xolh)

Technically he crossed at speed with a legion that more resembled an armed gang. Pompey probably could have assembled his own legions in time to stop Caesar cold if the latter was unwise enough to take his time. But you don't have the historical background to even be aware of how that scenario strengthens my argument and weakens yours.

The left and right both have the same blind spot, believing that the military will be wholly united behind their plays. In reality, the whole force is likely to break apart, and not around neat ethnic or state lines either. Of course you need logistics, but there's a difference between the 2nd gen plan to invade Normandy and the maneuver warfare that any nationalist force will need.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:29 PM (0HpOW)

438 Does anyone know if the claims that two Capitol Police have committed suicide since 1/6/21 and it's because of those events are true?
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 10, 2021 01:22 PM (GbPPJ)

Those claims make zero sense.

"I was at the Capitol, and now just cannot go on. I've decided to kill myself."

Huh?

"I wrote a parking ticket, and now just can't face life any more." (Throws rope over joist.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 10, 2021 01:30 PM (A68IW)

439 "Got a turd in your pocket?"

Just you, little man.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:30 PM (NbRTU)

440 They always say that "5 people died in the capital hill insurrection".

But two (others) died of medial emergencies - one of a stroke and one of a heart attack. In a crowd of thousands upon thousands of largely middle-aged people probably walking more than they've walked in ages, can that be a surprise? And now Sidenick?

These we're deaths 'caused' by the protests. They were just sad deaths of middle-aged people who's health was worse than they realized.

Posted by: LilyB at February 10, 2021 01:32 PM (A/N4l)

441 I can't say I am surprised by this, based on what I witnessed over at LI several years ago, but where are you getting this from? Did I miss their sellout?
Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:24 PM (NbRTU)

Mmhmm. Just look up his response to the Capitol riots. On the same page as Shapiro and Mirengoff. Admittedly Hinderaker surprised me by joining in, but I was a good bit more tolerant of elite lawyers back then. Lesson learned.

Honestly, his fey little badge labelling him a "trusted" Microsoft source (aka Gates minion) should have been warning enough.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:32 PM (0HpOW)

442 Maybe those two cops who committed "suicide" saw the same person Seth Rich saw on the night he died.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 10, 2021 01:33 PM (dR6lV)

443 "In reality, the whole force is likely to break apart, and not around neat ethnic or state lines either"

As a former Marine, I don't know about that.

But we do send new recruits into the fleet to opposing coasts, ie. if you grew up in Penn you are likely to go to Pendleton in CA. If you are from LA you are likely to go to Lejeune in NC.

The intent is to keep you from returning to your old life and loser friends who might get you in trouble. But it also could double as insurrection insurance. If there is a civil breakdown, you will not be shooting people you might know.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:34 PM (NbRTU)

444 "Honestly, his fey little badge labelling him a "trusted" Microsoft source (aka Gates minion) should have been warning enough."

Yah, like Powerline's reliance on Facebook as their only feedback venue.

I missed the LI sellout on the election. Got into it with FuzzySlippers several years ago and quit LI.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:35 PM (NbRTU)

445 The intent is to keep you from returning to your old life and loser friends who might get you in trouble. But it also could double as insurrection insurance. If there is a civil breakdown, you will not be shooting people you might know.
Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:34 PM (NbRTU)

You'd know better than I do. I agree that the Marines are likely to have an identity strong enough to persist into the post-USA era as an effective fighting force. Given the criminal activities of part of that force in relatively good times, though, I don't believe they will be completely immune to the pressure.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 01:40 PM (0HpOW)

446 The left and right both have the same blind spot, believing that the
military will be wholly united behind their plays. In reality, the whole
force is likely to break apart, and not around neat ethnic or state
lines either.

I often marvel at the Lee Greenwood prism that the military is viewed at here. I did my six years. It wasn't conservative in the nineties - I have no idea why people think it is now. It was racial. Mixing with other folks was scoffed at by some. Folks loved to align with an NCO of their particular race - happened all the damn time. The military was a cross section of society. Nothing more and nothing less.

Posted by: Pierre at February 10, 2021 01:42 PM (oT1NJ)

447 "I spent several months politely asking Professor Jacobson what Red Line, if crossed, would cause him to abandon his loyalty to the Rule of Law and pick up a rifle. I couldn't understand why he never gave me even the courtesy of a response."

I've since tried the same on several other "conservative" pundits. In hindsight, I was foolish to ask such a question in good faith. I couldn't understand the vitriolic responses I got (Hoyt was the worst, what a fraud she is) until I realized it's because they don't want to commit to a Red Line, because that would mean when it was eventually crossed they would feel obligated to do something, and that was the very last thing they wanted to do.

Better to write 500 word essays lamenting The Fall Of The Republic and post outrage porn about how "You won't believe what the Left did next!" for the advert clicks.

So many of them of just an NRO-lite model. Even Insty (via Driscoll and Hoyt) appears to be on this path now. It is in their best interests to have Biden steal the election. Gives them new material.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:44 PM (NbRTU)

448 "It wasn't conservative in the nineties - I have no idea why people think it is now"

Where? I was in the Marines 91-97. As an 0313. My experience was very different from yours. Most were conservatives, Penn and Texas culture were the norm. Skin color was as irrelevant as hair color.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:45 PM (NbRTU)

449 Pair that with the head of the Proud Boys being an FBI informant, and it looks like this is all political theater/FBI framime job.

That Proud Boys informer thing just does not sound right to me at all. First off people are repeating it based on a Gateway Pundit claim which is always something to be cautious with but... what, exactly, would he "inform" about??

The Proud Boys are basically a buncha guys who drink beer and hang out at the bar, then go out and help protect protesters sometimes. They're not a criminal organization, they don't get involved in crimes, they're not smuggling drugs. There's nothing to inform ON.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:44 PM (KZzsI)

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I have no information on Proud Boys but it is a fact that FBI "informers" in organizations of interest are often agents provocateur.

Posted by: Undocumented at February 10, 2021 01:51 PM (Y08Vx)

450 "Admittedly Hinderaker surprised me by joining in"

Yah, I was a bit stunned by that too. Then I realized if he would tolerate Mirengoff seeding his Euro Soccer posts with cheap shots at Trump, he was part of the problem.

I should have expected that. Sadly, I am currently witnessing the same dynamic with Ed Driscoll and Glenn Reynolds. If his (valid) excuse is an adherence to Freedom of Speech, then he would at least give our good faith complaints about Driscoll and his Daily Treacher the courtesy of a response. To date he has ignored us entirely. So I now suspect there must be some other reason he tolerates Driscoll rubbing our nose in Treacher drek every day. Maybe it's some contractual obligation with PJM, I don't know. Although I have come to view them as Controlled Opposition too.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:52 PM (NbRTU)

451 Oy vey! When will it stop?Will it ever stop?Hasn't in my lifetime.Hmmm.Death, taxes, and bald-faced lying--the inevitable consequences of living Kafka's American nightmare?

Posted by: Kurtz at February 10, 2021 01:56 PM (S1Ij0)

452 It's not surprising the media lied. And all the dead -- cops and protestors all, "on both sides" as the expression goes -- have died tragically and unnecessarily.

It saddens me this particular lie cuts off a great symbol of right-wing protest. The left protests by STARTING fires. Molotov cocktails, torches, bottle rockets. The right protests with fire extinguishers.

When it's time again later to take to the streets each of us should be carrying a bright red reminder of the media lies and the true message of constitutional preservation -- we EXTINGUISH the fires that would destroy our heritage.

Posted by: pouncer at February 10, 2021 01:57 PM (3xJCY)

453 (Hoyt was the worst, what a fraud she is)

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 01:44 PM (NbRTU)

*Cough* Have you read Hoyt's late night stuff at Instapundit lately? She's easily the only reason for non-cucks to go there, including Reynolds himself. I suspect her reactions are from living with equally shitty governments. And being wary of people who look like they glow.

It's up to you: talking time is over in general, but some people that I were sure were grifters have proven themselves true. The opposite has also happened.

Posted by: trev006 at February 10, 2021 02:00 PM (0HpOW)

454 Speaking as a private sector lawyer x many years its my view that most prosecutors often have an unjustified high opinion of their legal ability.

They basically get to pick and choose which, totally-guilty perps they want to steamroll with all the power and resources of the gubmint.

That and being called "The People" or "The United States" gets to their heads after awhile.

Posted by: Zek at February 10, 2021 02:05 PM (r4fw8)

455 we're in one of the extra dimensions created by the Large Hadron Collider. it's the only theory that fits the observations.
Posted by: x4

Higgs Boson ftw!

Posted by: DaisyB at February 10, 2021 02:23 PM (Hswbs)

456 "Have you read Hoyt's late night stuff at Instapundit lately? She's easily the only reason for non-cucks to go there"

I have, and that's why I say she is a fraud. She throws red meat to radicalize her audience and then tries to ban them for being radicalized. It's all a grift to get eyeballs on adverts.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 02:31 PM (NbRTU)

457 It gives me no pleasure - I came to know and admire Hoyt's stand in the Hugo drama. But she treated me the same way the Sad Puppies were treated. If anyone should know better, it's Sarah Hoyt.

It's said you can tell the character of a man by how he treats the staff. I'm just a nobody she falsely accused of being a "paid turkish provocateur troll". She tried to ban me but it failed. She then claimed I was doing some kind of VPN dance to avoid it, but I can't even set up my voicemail without help.

So I offered to self-ban until she sorted it out, even gave her my email so she could contact me later. Kept my word for over a year now but no response from her, not even to follow up to see if maybe she needed to right a wrong that she did. Probably because I am No One.

So, I've seen her true colors, I know she is false. I don't need to convince you though, in time you will see what I saw.

Posted by: Fen at February 10, 2021 02:39 PM (NbRTU)

458 What employee in any business or function can knowingly post false facts that could be determintal to all who read utter nonsense and act on this information without severe consequence?

Any organization or employee posting such rumor, fables, speculation without identifying it as such should be sentenced to five years in jail and prohibited from working in that line of work again. Can an engineer at a damn falsify a structural report? Post rumors, report an unidentified source when the safety of thousands are at stake?

Unidentified sources should be banned, as well as rumor or speculation masquerading as fact. Such incidents such as the media reports of the Floyd and Brown deaths should allow the general public to sue the media.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at February 10, 2021 03:20 PM (EcD5Y)

459 Will Jim Treacher and all the other "conservative" assholes ever go on the record to say they were wrong when they called it "murder"? Treacher, for one, did this over and over again. Fuckers.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at February 10, 2021 03:34 PM (N3/ZI)

460 But remember: the police are our friends, they put their lives on the line every day, they just wanna go home at night, they are sweethearts, above criticism, and Americans must bow down and worship them at all costs.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 10, 2021 04:08 PM (49Dnm)

461 59 I used to beleive the FBI was full of straight shooters who fought for justice and were the one branch of the law you could go to when your local police were corrupt. Sure, I heard stories of how they were sloppy or stupid or even bent, but I disregarded them. This was the cream of the crop, the Top Men.

Now I'm wondering if they were ever any good, or have always been rule-bending, sloppy, corrupt, and unjust. If the Whitey Bulger corruption wasn't par for the course rather than just things spinning out of control.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2021 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

And Bill Ayers is walking free because of the technicalty that the FBI did not get a warrant for the wire taps that led to his arrest for bombings when he was with the Weatherman terrorist organization.

Hmmm...gee...no way...FBI agents would not intentionally...no, there is no way that the Left plays a long game...that long? No way.
No way that the Left would have wanted Ayers in place to groom and train Obama. No way. Pure happenstance. No way...

Posted by: waepnedmann at February 10, 2021 09:24 PM (2vroB)

462 Lies, Lies, Lies!!!

Like what about the 30 years of lies about Global Warming? Where the f@ck is Al Gore?

Posted by: Case at February 15, 2021 11:53 AM (FbvJf)

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