Lee Smith: The American Elite's Primary Allegiance Is No Longer to America, But to the Communist Party of China, That Makes Them Rich and Keeps Them In Power

Great article called "The Thirty Tyrants" -- a reference to a period of Athenian history in which the city-state was controlled by tyrants allied with foreign enemies-- that everyone was reading last Monday.

He just appeared on Tucker Carlson, talking about the article. Two clips from that appearance are below.

He starts the article by quoting from a Tom "Chinese Dictatorship Should Be Our Model" Friedman column from ten years ago, noting that the corporate elite had previously used the Republican Party as its vehicle for gaining favorable policies. But the Tea Party made the GOP a less welcome place for the aborning oligarchy.

The GOP was still rolling over for the US Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street and the corporate elite -- but it wasn't rolling over hard enough.

But the elite easily found a new home in the transnational left.

In the more than 10 years since Friedman's column was published, the disenchanted elite that the Times columnist identified has further impoverished American workers while enriching themselves. The one-word motto they came to live by was globalism--that is, the freedom to structure commercial relationships and social enterprises without reference to the well-being of the particular society in which they happened to make their livings and raise their children.
Undergirding the globalist enterprise was China's accession to the World Trade Organization in 2001. For decades, American policymakers and the corporate class said they saw China as a rival, but the elite that Friedman described saw enlightened Chinese autocracy as a friend and even as a model--which was not surprising, given that the Chinese Communist Party became their source of power, wealth, and prestige. Why did they trade with an authoritarian regime and by sending millions of American manufacturing jobs off to China thereby impoverish working Americans? Because it made them rich. They salved their consciences by telling themselves they had no choice but to deal with China: It was big, productive, and efficient and its rise was inevitable. And besides, the American workers hurt by the deal deserved to be punished--who could defend a class of reactionary and racist ideological naysayers standing in the way of what was best for progress?
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Because of Trump's pressure on the Americans who benefited extravagantly from the U.S.-China relationship, these strange bedfellows acquired what Marxists call class consciousness--and joined together to fight back, further cementing their relationships with their Chinese patrons. United now, these disparate American institutions lost any sense of circumspection or shame about cashing checks from the Chinese Communist Party, no matter what horrors the CCP visited on the prisoners of its slave labor camps and no matter what threat China's spy services and the People's Liberation Army might pose to national security. Think tanks and research institutions like the Atlantic Council, the Center for American Progress, the EastWest Institute, the Carter Center, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, and others gorged themselves on Chinese money. The world-famous Brookings Institution had no scruples about publishing a report funded by Chinese telecom company Huawei that praised Huawei technology.

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And because it was true that China was the source of the China Class' power, the novel coronavirus coming out of Wuhan became the platform for its coup de grace. So Americans became prey to an anti-democratic elite that used the coronavirus to demoralize them; lay waste to small businesses; leave them vulnerable to rioters who are free to steal, burn, and kill; keep their children from school and the dying from the last embrace of their loved ones; and desecrate American history, culture, and society; and defame the country as systemically racist in order to furnish the predicate for why ordinary Americans in fact deserved the hell that the elite's private and public sector proxies had already prepared for them.

Smith really gets into how... convenient the Chinese Covid Virus was for the China Class and the Chinese Communist Party.

Evidence the pandemic didn't start in a Wuhan wet market was published as early as January 2020, days after Beijing implemented the lockdown on Jan. 23. According to the British medical journal The Lancet, 13 of the first 41 cases, including the first one, had no links to the market. In May the head of China's center for disease control and prevention confirmed that there was nothing to link COVID-19 and the wet market. "The novel coronavirus had existed long before" it was found at the market, said the Chinese official.
After the Lancet report, Republican officials close to the Trump administration disputed Beijing's official account. "We don't know where it originated, and we have to get to the bottom of that," Sen. Tom Cotton said in February. "We also know that just a few miles away from that food market is China's only biosafety level 4 super laboratory that researches human infectious diseases." Cotton said the Chinese had been duplicitous and dishonest. "We need to at least ask the question to see what the evidence says," Cotton said. "And China right now is not giving any evidence on that question at all."
The corporate American press disparaged Cotton's search for answers. Jeff Bezos' Washington Post claimed that Cotton was "fanning the embers of a conspiracy theory that has been repeatedly debunked by experts." Trump was derided for contradicting American spy services when the president said he had a high degree of confidence that the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab. Sen. Ted Cruz said that in dismissing obvious questions about the origins of the pandemic the press was "abandoning all pretenses of journalism to produce CCP propaganda."
The January publication of a New York Magazine article by Nicholson Baker arguing the same case that Trump and GOP officials had been making since last winter raises useful questions. Why did journalists automatically seek to discredit the Trump administration's skepticism regarding Beijing's origin story of the coronavirus? Why wait until after the election to allow the publication of evidence that the CCP's story was spurious? Sure, the media preferred Biden and wanted Trump gone at any cost--but how would it affect the Democrat's electoral chances to tell Americans the truth about China and COVID-19?
China had cultivated many friends in the American press, which is why the media relays Chinese government statistics with a straight face--for instance that China, four times the size of the United States, has suffered 1/100th the number of COVID-19 fatalities. But the key fact is this: In legitimizing CCP narratives, the media covers not primarily for China but for the American class that draws its power, wealth, and prestige from China. No, Beijing isn't the bad guy here--it's a responsible international stakeholder. In fact, we should follow China's lead. And by March, with Trump's initial acquiescence, American officials imposed the same repressive measures on Americans used by dictatorial powers throughout history to silence their own people.
Eventually, the pro-China oligarchy would come to see the full range of benefits the lockdowns afforded. Lockdowns made leading oligarchs richer--$85 billion richer in the case of Bezos alone--while impoverishing Trump's small-business base. In imposing unconstitutional regulations by fiat, city and state authorities normalized autocracy. And not least, lockdowns gave the American establishment a plausible reason to give its chosen candidate the nomination after barely one-third of the delegates had chosen, and then keep him stashed away in his basement for the duration of the Presidential campaign.

By the way: The China-dominated WHO had previously pretended to investigate the possibility that the Chinese coronavirus originated in that level 4 biosafety lab.

With China Joe now in office, and no longer likely to ask pesky questions about the virus' origins, they have stopped pretending to investigate, and have dropped any inquiry into the Wuhan lab.

A World Health Organization team investigating the origins of the coronavirus pandemic downplayed the possibility that the virus leaked from a lab near Wuhan, China, during a news conference on Tuesday.
Instead, coronavirus likely spread from an animal to humans, WHO food safety and animal diseases expert Peter Ben Embarek said. The WHO and China have faced strong criticism from around the world over their pandemic response, as China blocked WHO investigators from entering Wuhan for months; they finally arrived in mid-January of this year.
"Our initial findings suggest that the introduction through an intermediary host species is the most likely pathway and one that will require more studies and more specific, targeted research," Embarek told reporters.
"However, the findings suggest that the laboratory incidents hypothesis is extremely unlikely to explain the introduction of the virus to the human population," Embarek said. "Therefore it is not a hypothesis that we advise to suggest future studies ... into the understanding of the origin of the virus."

Make sure you listen to China's official propagandists... aka the "American" media.

Below, Lee Smith's appearance on Tucker, noting that the CIA brass bullied analysts out of criticizing China, for fear the truth would support Trump's anti-China impulses.

More @LeeSmithDC @TuckerCarlson CIA management was protecting China from solid analysis."
"Remember who owns the cloud in which all of the CIA info is collected: Jeff Bezos" pic.twitter.com/aCmqNiU9Lt
— Heather Champion (@winningatmylife) February 9, 2021

Update: Just today, the chief propaganda organ of the China Class, the New York Times, dropped straight-up CCP propaganda in a "news" story.

Did Chinese state media write this headline?

https://t.co/tSTga9cRmr
— Rita Panahi (@RitaPanahi) February 9, 2021

Smith recently wrote the well-received book, The Permanent Coup: How Enemies Foreign and Domestic Targeted the American President.

Posted by: Ace at 05:25 PM

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1 I hate them, which is a sin

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 09, 2021 05:27 PM (nUhF0)

2 We are so screwed

Posted by: Zeera Hunkering down here, Boss at February 09, 2021 05:28 PM (RLANM)

3 also ace, glad you read thirty tyrants - been rec'ng it to anyone I can

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 09, 2021 05:28 PM (nUhF0)

4

I was the first (an only) one to ask why our CIA didn't see the virus coming? It's literally the CIA's job to identify and monitor and emerging foreign threats.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at February 09, 2021 05:29 PM (RLQkG)

5 the scientists are terrified the truth about covid will come out and they should be

Posted by: x4 at February 09, 2021 05:29 PM (oA+QO)

6
We are to believe the CIA found out about the wuhan flu the same time we did!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at February 09, 2021 05:29 PM (RLQkG)

7 Lee Smith: The American Elite's Primary Allegiance Is No Longer to America, But to the Communist Party of China, That Makes Them Rich and Keeps Them In Power

Go long on tumbrils, and/or hemp. They're going to be in big demand soon.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:29 PM (rNyNM)

8 I swear "debunked" is fast moving up my list of most emetically infuriating words.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:30 PM (jBRLB)

9 But hey, we won that court case, they can't count those ballots after all.

Posted by: Zeera Hunkering down here, Boss at February 09, 2021 05:30 PM (RLANM)

10 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:31 PM (Zz0t1)

11 Update: Just today, the chief propaganda organ of the China Class, the New York Times, dropped straight-up CCP propaganda in a "news" story.
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This happens a *lot.* Our press is on average probably more in the tank for the CCP than our elected officials, and that's really saying something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2021 05:32 PM (UZVEt)

12 Whig
'In the 2016 election cycle, Wikileaks revealed a clinton advisor warning that their grip on the "unaware and compliant" was slipping. They went all in. And it worked.'

Interesting. Did not know that. Thanks.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 05:24 PM (pO7gM)

tinyurl.com/ddcm58t1

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 05:32 PM (KnJdm)

13 Glad biden is giving all that money to the WHO.. Wish it was the band.. On another note surprise surprise .. They've voted to go ahead with the impeachment cause it's tote's Constitutional.... 6 F'ing RINO's voted with the Dems

Posted by: It's me donna at February 09, 2021 05:32 PM (Zmnko)

14 ace, I think you and others are giving our "elite" class too much credit.

I don't think they're bound by ideology, or really give a shit about China.

I think they want money and power, and think they deserve money and power, because they're smarter, more educated, and are born to rule because they come from aristocratic blood lines, unlike us idiots in fly over country.

I don't think they care how they get that money and power. And I think China realized that many years ago and has been using that knowledge to their advantage. But it could have just as easily been any other country / group of people / whatever on the planet. China just had more influence and money and foresight then the next guy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:34 PM (UPoLF)

15 ... 6 F'ing RINO's voted with the Dems
Posted by: It's me donna at February 09, 2021 05:32 PM (Zmnko)
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Romney and who else?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2021 05:34 PM (UZVEt)

16 I'm not going to say it's old but wasn't this a JJ link yesterday?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 09, 2021 05:34 PM (yQpMk)

17 Along with a couple other tabs, this one has been open on my computer all week and I've read it a couple of times. The right is generating some great writing in these troubled times.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, registered Independent at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (3n2Qr)

18 This is a real "no shit" moment in journalism, huh?

Posted by: GOPe at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (ONvIw)

19 Romney and who else?

The usuals.. Collins, Murkowski, Toomey, Sasse, Cassidy

Posted by: It's me donna at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (Zmnko)

20 Update: Just today, the chief propaganda organ of the China Class, the New York Times, dropped straight-up CCP propaganda in a "news" story.
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This happens a *lot.* Our press is on average probably more in the tank for the CCP than our elected officials, and that's really saying something.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2021 05:32 PM (UZVEt)

Some call it being in the tank, others call it being stupid and lazy and when their editor says "hey, here's a pre-written story for you" they say "awesome, I don't have to do any work!" and put their byline on it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (UPoLF)

21 6 F'ing RINO's voted with the Dems

I figured 7 traitors, so they are beating expectations.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (yQpMk)

22 2We are so screwed

Posted by: Zeera Hunkering down here

Well,...yes, yes we are.

Posted by: Charles Martell at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (tyCd/)

23 Yeah Buddy. The CIA probably had a hand in importing the Chinese lung syphilis.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (R5lpX)

24 So what is left for us to do?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (7bRMQ)

25 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (arJlL)

26 Give that man a cookie.
Our whole government has gone under the Chi-Coms, lock, stock and barrel.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (Cxk7w)

27 Why can't there be an Executive Order making it legal to kick Romney in the nuts?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (lgiXo)

28 12, 4 Thanks. I know of some of the people doing that work.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (pO7gM)

29 23 Yeah Buddy. The CIA probably had a hand in importing the Chinese lung syphilis.

Would not surprise me

Posted by: It's me donna at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (Zmnko)

30
Why can't President Trump now petition the Court to stop the sham impeachment?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (RLQkG)

31 I figured 7 traitors, so they are beating expectations.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (yQpMk)

Let niece Ronna know that the GOP is toast if uncle Mutt prevails

Posted by: GOPe at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (ONvIw)

32 I was the first (an only) one to ask why our CIA didn't see the virus coming? It's literally the CIA's job to identify and monitor and emerging foreign threats.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at February 09, 2021 05:29 PM (RLQkG)

I'm misquoting, but the old saw that it is amazing what a man can ignore when it is in his financial interest to ignore it applies here.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (2JVJo)

33 Some call it being in the tank, others call it being stupid and lazy and when their editor says "hey, here's a pre-written story for you" they say "awesome, I don't have to do any work!" and put their byline on it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (UPoLF)
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Oh, for sure. I'm not talking about the "journalists" themselves so much. They might as well be automatons. The press organizations, though, love them some CCP.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UZVEt)

34 I really think we are overestimating our "enemies." I've rubbed shoulders with this social class for much of my life, they are, for the most part, absolute idiots with no critical thinking skills, who have the social skills and maturity levels of 10th grade girls.

We're giving them too much credit by thinking they're intelligent and working behind the scenes doing smart things.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UPoLF)

35 These people are filth

They are of their father, the Devil

Posted by: Jmel at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (6kTCe)

36 "Our initial findings suggest that the introduction through an intermediary host species is the most likely pathway and one that will require more studies and more specific, targeted research," Embarek told reporters.

Such as...oh, I don't know...bats? Just off the top of my head?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (Bmy3R)

37 17 Along with a couple other tabs, this one has been open on my computer all week and I've read it a couple of times. The right is generating some great writing in these troubled times.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, registered Independent at February 09, 2021 05:35 PM (3n2Qr)

For all the good it will do. Where was this in September?

Posted by: GOPe at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (ONvIw)

38 America's Elite is loyal to itself. That's what Oligarchs do.

China is just a means to an end: power.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (ifmtJ)

39 that ratfucker Toomey

he had better move his ass to China because if I ever see him...

that's what we have to do, btw.

exile these wonderful elites to CHINA

they need to be shunned first, then tried, then exiled.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (j9HX3)

40 China isn't bad folks, folks!!!!!

Posted by: Joey Fingerstick McShitpants at February 09, 2021 05:38 PM (Zz0t1)

41 The amazing thing is that the entire plot was deduced and screamed from the heaven's, right here on this blog starting in, ohhhh, February.

Literally the entire plot and pretty much every detail.

Incredible.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 05:38 PM (NkRam)

42 Well day just got a bit brighter. DHL just delivered the very new Hong Kong Models 1/48 B-17F Flying Fortress "Memphis Belle."

Most of the parts after a quick look seem to be common with the previously released B-17G with the non-staggered waist windows. Nose area is completely new and includes the internal bracing required for mounting the two cheek .50s and the .50s in the bombardier perspex. Waist windows come with closed perspex or open if you want to pose the .50s pointing out. Or just skip the waist position perspex and completely open up the rear fuselage for viewing.

Extras in box - very nice colour print of the box art. A small PE fret with seat belts and intake grills for the wings. Plus large stickers of the Memphis Belle in both her red and blue swimsuits.

Still need to do some research as the wing tips have the vents for the Tokyo tanks. Not sure if such were fitted to the F model Fortress. The 1/32d HK B-17E/F came with resin ammo chutes as an undocumented extra. Not found anything like that in this kit. Yet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:38 PM (robyy)

43 Harry you are right as rain

and being in advertising, I can attest that PR people write the news you read

everyone likes this system the way it is; journalists or whatever they are are LAZY as all get out

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:39 PM (j9HX3)

44 Demonic.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 05:39 PM (45fpk)

45 The amazing thing is that the entire plot was deduced and screamed from the heaven's, right here on this blog starting in, ohhhh, February.

Rubbing our faces in it is part of the kink.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 09, 2021 05:39 PM (yQpMk)

46 Is there any really more evil than the Biden family?

The WHOLE FUCKING FAMILY is grifting off China and is selling out America with every opportunity.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:39 PM (Zz0t1)

47 We're giving them too much credit by thinking they're intelligent and working behind the scenes doing smart things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UPoLF)
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A handful of them are probably doing that, but most of them are feckless idiots enriching themselves at the expense of our civilization for their Oriental masters, taking their marching orders from the even bigger feckless idiots above them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2021 05:39 PM (UZVEt)

48 All that is necessary for a conspiracy theory to be real is independent agencies with shared interests.

Posted by: iandeal at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (vgGyZ)

49 Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:38 PM

Things like this make me wonder just how extensive your model collection is.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (F5q1B)

50 Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:38 PM (robyy)

Congrats. Happy assembling.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (ifmtJ)

51 So Trump is truly the only one who is clean. No wonder he must be destroyed at all costs.

Also, as always, fuck Romney.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (GbPPJ)

52 40 China isn't bad folks, folks!!!!!
Posted by: Joey Fingerstick McShitpants at February 09, 2021 05:38 PM (Zz0t1)

They're not bad, per se. This is what Trump meant when he kept saying "our leaders are stupid, China is playing them all."

China is doing what is in China's best interest. China wants to gain hegemony and power. Throwing around a few billion a year to buy off our "elite" class is a much cheaper and smarter policy then starting a war with the US.

But while Trump was right that our leaders are stupid, he was wrong in thinking that they gave a shit what their policies did to "middle America." They don't, they despise us.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (UPoLF)

53 40 China isn't bad folks, folks!!!!!

honestly? I don't hate China

they are being China!

nothing wrong - I mean they cheat sure

it's our own traitorous, nepotistic elites we need to worry about. IN PARTICULAR the ones who have been pretending to be "on our side."

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (j9HX3)

54 So what is left for us to do?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Keep your head down and your powder dry. For now.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (fjZl+)

55 Great post, Ace !

Posted by: JT at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (arJlL)

56 These people are filth

They are of their father, the Devil

Posted by: Jmel at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (6kTCe)

And yet, the One who puts all in authority also tells us to obey them, or be punished?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (7bRMQ)

57 Oh. I'll toot my own horn here.

I've been denouncing "The Cloud" for YEARS because I KNEW this is exactly what would happen with it.

You don't know who has access to your data and they can remove your access any time they want.

Just ask Parler.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (Zz0t1)

58 29 23 Yeah Buddy. The CIA probably had a hand in importing the Chinese lung syphilis.

Would not surprise me
Posted by: It's me donna at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (Zmnko)

They certainly had a hand in getting the media to attack any and all positive developments, as far as existing medications.

Posted by: Inogame at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (I8jn/)

59 damn harry you said what I was trying to say, but in english

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (j9HX3)

60 Oh, and I had my cardiac stress test today.

Would you believe those motherfuckers made me keep my mask on during the entire test?

This is all insane.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (NkRam)

61 So what is left for us to do?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (7bRMQ)

National strike?

National uprising?

Roving freikorps bands?

Targeted "retribution?"

I think any of those could stop this within a week. But too many on "our side" find it in their interest to tamp down anger and pinky-swear that the next election will cure all our ills.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (2JVJo)

62 Oh, for sure. I'm not talking about the "journalists" themselves so much. They might as well be automatons. The press organizations, though, love them some CCP.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UZVEt)

But do they love the CCP for what it is or for what it isn't? Is the CCP just a convenient landing place for people who hate America because Daddy didn't read them bed time stories?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (Wm5SB)

63 Happy day, Anna !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 09, 2021 05:42 PM (PpU3N)

64 24 So what is left for us to do?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 05:36 PM (7bRMQ)

https://www.redonkulas.com/ post/get-ready-for-civil-war

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:42 PM (ifmtJ)

65 Russia may have sold us the rope but China is paying us to build our own gallows.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 05:42 PM (9GwoA)

66 A handful of them are probably doing that, but most of them are feckless idiots enriching themselves at the expense of our civilization for their Oriental masters, taking their marching orders from the even bigger feckless idiots above them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2021 05:39 PM (UZVEt)

Right. Just absolute low IQ people with very dubious morals.

And sure, I'm speaking in blanket statements. There are, without a doubt, *some* who are smart and plotting and whatnot. But I think they are massively in the minority, and even if they wanted to (which they don't), could not go up against the institutional inertia.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:42 PM (UPoLF)

67 I'm not going to say it's old but wasn't this a JJ link yesterday?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Yeah, but this thread goes up to eleven!

Posted by: El Superbeasto (Not a Good German) at February 09, 2021 05:43 PM (qnaGV)

68 So Trump is truly the only one who is clean. No wonder he must be destroyed at all costs.

Also, as always, fuck Romney.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (GbPPJ)

Preach

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:43 PM (ifmtJ)

69 in 2016, Toomey was widely regarded as toast

he got pulled over the line by Trump

Posted by: REDACTED at February 09, 2021 05:43 PM (zZxh0)

70 Second look at Putin nuking DC?

Posted by: ShainS at February 09, 2021 05:43 PM (DbSAo)

71 59 damn harry you said what I was trying to say, but in english
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (j9HX3)

Thanks. Occasionally my words come together in a way that makes sense. Usually they don't, and are riddled with typos.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (UPoLF)

72 Also, as always, fuck Romney.

Posted by: alexthechick

Weaver of the Lincoln Project reporting for dooty!

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (robyy)

73 Well day just got a bit brighter. DHL just delivered the very new Hong Kong Models 1/48 B-17F Flying Fortress "Memphis Belle."

Nice, Anna!

I just got the last missing volumes in my collection of the old Time-Life "The Third Reich" series: The Southern Front and The Road to Stalingrad. Been looking for them off and on for years.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (2JVJo)

74 I've rubbed shoulders with this social class for much of my life, they are, for the most part, absolute idiots with no critical thinking skills, who have the social skills and maturity levels of 10th grade girls.

We're giving them too much credit by thinking they're intelligent and working behind the scenes doing smart things.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UPoLF)

In other words, the perfect simps to mindlessly and zestily do the bidding of the actual smart people at the top.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (jBRLB)

75 REDACTED in 2016 I am proud to say I DID NOT vote for Toomey

he is just. such. an ASSHAT!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (j9HX3)

76 it's our own traitorous, nepotistic elites we need
to worry about. IN PARTICULAR the ones who have been pretending to be
"on our side."

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (j9HX3)

Yep. Focus on this.

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (KnJdm)

77 I've been denouncing "The Cloud" for YEARS because I KNEW this is exactly what would happen with it.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (Zz0t1)

Never had any interest in ever using the cloud.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (7bRMQ)

78 I really think we are overestimating our "enemies." I've rubbed shoulders with this social class for much of my life, they are, for the most part, absolute idiots with no critical thinking skills, who have the social skills and maturity levels of 10th grade girls.

We're giving them too much credit by thinking they're intelligent and working behind the scenes doing smart things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UPoLF)

I'm about 25 years off from my shoulder rubbing days but that tracks.

There are a few real thinkers and planners and they steer the sheep, even among the 'elite'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (ifmtJ)

79 My company moved to Office 365 last year. Microsoft hosts our mail, OneDrive among other things.

I started getting emails every morning from this Cortana thing.

It is reading my emails and telling me every morning what it THINKS I need to respond to or address.

"3 days ago, xxxxxx asked "Can you get back to me on this?"

Sure, I can disable the emails, but do you actually think that Microsoft is going to STOP reading my mails?

It's fucking obnoxious, in my mind.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (Zz0t1)

80 But do they love the CCP for what it is or for what it isn't? Is the CCP just a convenient landing place for people who hate America because Daddy didn't read them bed time stories?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (Wm5SB)
++++
Both, probably. Some just hate America and think it's terrible and those CCP types hate America, too. Other really do love them some communism. I don't much care about the distinction. If you're carrying water for the water for the CCP, you deserve reprisals whatever the reason.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (UZVEt)

81 Supposedly the US ended its own research of the type which would produce a virus like the covid in 2014. Then Fauci handed over a big check to the CCP for something something Wuhan lab. And then the total freak out of the CCP when the virus 'appeared' in China.

Posted by: davidt at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (l3+k2)

82 54 So what is left for us to do?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Keep your head down and your powder dry. For now.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (fjZl+)

II agree. I now believe that they are going to inflate so recklessly, so foolishly (since they believe they are geniuses) that they will at some point (2 years? 3?) crash the economy not just of this country, but of the entire world, including China. And that's when all hell will break loose everywhere, all at once.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (trdmm)

83 Also, as always, fuck Romney.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM

Speaking as a resident of MA, yes. All of this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (F5q1B)

84 But do they love the CCP for what it is or for what it isn't? Is the CCP just a convenient landing place for people who hate America because Daddy didn't read them bed time stories?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (Wm5SB)

I honestly don't think most of them have any idea what they are doing. I think they're just useful idiots.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (UPoLF)

85 I'm old and I'm a Christian. I won't have to put up with this shit for much longer and I'll be much happier when I get where I'm going. But what to do about my grandchildren? I don't want them growing up in a rat-infested sewer.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (45fpk)

86 Yeah, we're fully a Chinese vassal state now.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (DXFDM)

87 Enemas, foreign AND domestic.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (vD+8F)

88 74 I've rubbed shoulders with this social class for much of my life, they are, for the most part, absolute idiots with no critical thinking skills, who have the social skills and maturity levels of 10th grade girls.

We're giving them too much credit by thinking they're intelligent and working behind the scenes doing smart things.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UPoLF)

In other words, the perfect simps to mindlessly and zestily do the bidding of the actual smart people at the top.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (jBRLB)

How smart do you have to be when you know you will never be held account?

Posted by: Inogame at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (I8jn/)

89 Toomey and Barr owe their seats to Trump hauling them across the line in 2016.

*does interpretative dance of rage*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (GbPPJ)

90 Remember who owns the cloud in which all of the CIA info is collected: Jeff Bezos

Wait, what? Is this guy claiming that CIA stores info in AWS, and that Bezos has read / write access to that info?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (UW2ZS)

91 Anyone in the FL treasure coast know an experienced reputable General Contractor or Contractors that do good work?

Everyone of the ones I've contacted so far are booked till next year.

Posted by: Floridachick at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (tyCd/)

92 Only part way through the link but everyone should read it.
Long thought by many the Democrats shut down America so that big business was the only ones pushing Chinese merchandise.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (Cxk7w)

93 Cassidy of Louisiana also voted for a trial

Posted by: Jen the original at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (hH9zb)

94
Never had any interest in ever using the cloud.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (7bRMQ)

Just ask any celebrity that had the iCloud full of their personal porno shoots how THEY feel about it......

*pssst* Jennifer Lawrence likes the bukkake.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (Zz0t1)

95 I am rather disappointed in Trump's lack of engagement and leadership since the election was stolen.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (o2MD2)

96 Posted by: alexthechick

**smishes**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (2JVJo)

97 Oh. I need to bring the garbage bin in from the curb.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (lgiXo)

98 Fox is still trying to play the "this impeachment is still in doubt" card

FUCK THEM 4EVAH

Posted by: REDACTED at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (zZxh0)

99 With each purchase it is getting bigger.

Thought about after market decals like the B-17F "Witch's Tit" but the only copy on eBay the seller wants $26 plus shipping. Kits World decals I don't trust unless I can see the actual sheet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (robyy)

100 it's our own traitorous, nepotistic elites we need
to worry about. IN PARTICULAR the ones who have been pretending to be
"on our side."

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM (j9HX3)

Yep. Focus on this.
Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (KnJdm)

And control breathing, work on isolating the muscles of the index finger...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (ifmtJ)

101 We're losing to a group where their dudes get up in front of a crowd and start blubbering like little mincers. First that dude cried to AOC now this Raskin phag crying. How embarrassing.

Posted by: JROD at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (0jZnq)

102 Cassidy must have been traumatized by the protesters, poor dear, who he called "Traitors". He was just re-elected so is feeling pretty safe I guess.

Posted by: Javems at February 09, 2021 05:47 PM (8SSHh)

103 Just ask any celebrity that had the iCloud full of their personal porno shoots how THEY feel about it......

*pssst* Jennifer Lawrence likes the bukkake.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (Zz0t1)

She liked wealth, fame, awards. The bukkake was the price.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:47 PM (ifmtJ)

104 Much of the evil in this world has been perpetrated by a few smart people and a bunch of stupid depraved misled asshole followers.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:47 PM (jBRLB)

105 We're giving them too much credit by thinking they're intelligent and working behind the scenes doing smart things.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UPoLF)

I think they're idiots and working behind the scenes doing incredibly stupid things. The problem is that they now control everything, including the courts, the companies, the military, and the police. Therefore the Stupidity is going to grow and grow until the entire system is consumed by it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (trdmm)

106 Second look at Putin nuking DC?

I'm totally open to posting a One Trillion Dollar reward to the first nation that drops 50+ megatons over the District of Chyna - provided it is performed before the Orks there agree upon their Two Trillion Dollar Helicopter Giveaway Sweepstakes.

Its purely a business decision here.

Posted by: Observer at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (csnU0)

107 If Caputo doesn't actively work against Manchin in 2024

fuck her in the ass with a 44 mag cleaning brush

Posted by: REDACTED at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (zZxh0)

108

I could be convinced. Send over several attractive young Chinese ladies for some Struggle Sessions.

If that doesn't work, switch 'em out and send some others.

I'm a work in progress...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (OfiR7)

109 Go long on tumbrils, and/or hemp. They're going to be in big demand soon.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

You know what they say: hemp will get you through tough times without money better than money will get you through tough times without hemp.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (KAi1n)

110 Just ask any celebrity that had the iCloud full of their personal porno shoots how THEY feel about it......

*pssst* Jennifer Lawrence likes the bukkake.

That's just gross.

Posted by: Hope Solo's Globetrotting Squeakhole at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (2JVJo)

111 103 How about choosing not to spread the virus?
Posted by: wear the mask, dummies at February 09, 2021 05:47 PM (ykYG2)

How about you choose to fuck your self with a chain saw?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (o2MD2)

112 In other words, the perfect simps to mindlessly and zestily do the bidding of the actual smart people at the top.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:44 PM (jBRLB)

I don't think there are necessarily smart people at the top.

At least, not in a "man behind the curtain" way. I think a large number of the "elites" interests intersect a lot of the time, but I think they're all just mindlessly doing what they think is best for them to get more money and influence.

In other words, I don't think they have any particular loyalty to China or anything. I just think CCP leadership realized how corrupt our officials were, and have come up with ways to make that work in their favor when they can. But I don't think China's like ... pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (UPoLF)

113 I'm old and I'm a Christian. I won't have to put up with this shit for much longer and I'll be much happier when I get where I'm going. But what to do about my grandchildren? I don't want them growing up in a rat-infested sewer.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (45fpk)

I only have step grandchildren. I have no relationship with half of them but I've committed myself to pray for them every day until I'm called home whether they appreciate it or not.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (lgiXo)

114 Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (fjZl+)

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (2JVJo)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:42 PM (ifmtJ)

Yeah, it might come to that you all, but I don't want to be the one to start it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (7bRMQ)

115 >We're giving them too much credit by thinking they're intelligent and working behind the scenes doing smart things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UPoLF)

Getting our asses handed to us in every way possible by stupid people doesn't make me feel any better. Doesn't matter if they are mostly dumb. They are very well organized and disciplined where it counts, and don't care about transgressing any boundary they can in the name of gaining power, if they can get away with it.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (DXFDM)

116 And that's when all hell will break loose everywhere, all at once.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (trdmm)

That's when the lessons of the past 4 years will become important.

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (KnJdm)

117 Also, as always, fuck Romney.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:40 PM

Not with your girl dick.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (Zz0t1)

118 Oh, and I had my cardiac stress test today.

Would you believe those motherfuckers made me keep my mask on during the entire test?

This is all insane.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 05:41 PM (NkRam)

Clean bill of cardiac health? Hope you weren't on beta blockers and blood thinners when you took the test.

Posted by: BifBewalski - wants good news at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (VcFUs)

119 Fuck her in the ass with a 44 mag cleaning brush
Posted by: REDACTED

Probably like throwing a hot dog down a hallway...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (OfiR7)

120 *smishes MP4 back*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (GbPPJ)

121 You know what they say: hemp will get you through tough times without money better than money will get you through tough times without hemp.
Posted by: SFGoth at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (KAi1n)

lol wut?

Money > hemp. Unless pot can somehow make car/home payments and buy groceries or ammo.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (ifmtJ)

122 If Caputo doesn't actively work against Manchin in 2024

fuck her in the ass with a 44 mag cleaning brush
Posted by: REDACTED

That's a 12 gauge.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (vD+8F)

123 93 Cassidy of Louisiana also voted for a trial
Posted by: Jen the original at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (hH9zb)

Is every Senator I voted for going to turn out to be a shitbag? Damn...

Posted by: Thrawn at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (5NXRQ)

124 Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (45fpk)

Prepare for the worst, and prepare them for the worst, and hope for the best. Like the rest of us.

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (KnJdm)

125 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (GbPPJ)

Where ya been. The place needs your tracts and liveliness.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (jBRLB)

126 The only corrective is a second revolution.

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (54gvD)

127 111 103 How about choosing not to spread the virus?
Posted by: wear the mask, dummies at February 09, 2021 05:47 PM (ykYG2)

board up all the gloryholes, OK

Posted by: REDACTED at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (zZxh0)

128 MPPPP

Glad you found your sought after books.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (robyy)

129
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:38 PM (robyy)

Bad ass, dude!

How's the ticker doing, by the way?

Posted by: Robert at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (1Yy3c)

130 Is it: 1) there's a central Darth Vader controlling all the evil on the Left; or 2) there's a bunch of little Eichmans with overlapping interests but a mean girl attitude towards many in their overlapping spheres?

Posted by: SFGoth at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (KAi1n)

131 Fuck her in the ass with a 44 mag cleaning brush
Posted by: REDACTED

Isn't that the new Covid test?

Transportation Secretary Bootyfuck is going to make EVERYONE get one of those soon.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (Zz0t1)

132 65 Russia may have sold us the rope but China is paying us to build our own gallows.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 05:42 PM (9GwoA)

But we've got The List.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (rNyNM)

133 I think they're idiots and working behind the scenes doing incredibly stupid things. The problem is that they now control everything, including the courts, the companies, the military, and the police. Therefore the Stupidity is going to grow and grow until the entire system is consumed by it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (trdmm)

Yeah, and I don't think this is new. I mean, at some point in the distant past, there probably were the kind of "selfless civil servants" kinds of people we learn about in Civics class or whatever. Maybe.

But I think it didn't take long for people to say "well, shit, I can make a lot more money and get a lot more power by being in government (or related industries) then by doing anything else ..." and here we are.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (UPoLF)

134 Still ticking!

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (robyy)

135 *pssst* Jennifer Lawrence likes the bukkake.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (Zz0t1)

I may have been too hasty. Where's this cloud of which you speak?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (7bRMQ)

136 never?

Posted by: vizzy at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (R/9t3)

137 130 Is it: 1) there's a central Darth Vader controlling all the evil on the Left; or 2) there's a bunch of little Eichmans with overlapping interests but a mean girl attitude towards many in their overlapping spheres?
Posted by: SFGoth at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (KAi1n)

I absolutely believe #2.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (UPoLF)

138 But we've got The List.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (rNyNM)

Actually have to thank Time magazine for help with that

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (ifmtJ)

139 Getting our asses handed to us in every way possible
by stupid people doesn't make me feel any better.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (DXFDM)

Yeah, about that. We were sold out, by the people we trusted. Let's not do that anymore.

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (KnJdm)

140 Money > hemp. Unless pot can somehow make car/home payments and buy groceries or ammo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (ifmtJ)

Hemp could play a crucial role in saving America.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (rNyNM)

141 Both the U.S. and U.S.S.R. lost the Cold War to China.

China is good!
President Xi is great!
We surrender our will, as of this date!

Posted by: I Have Questions at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (RGRIY)

142 The game Fallout talks about a past where America fights a defensive war against China. Seems less unlikely now

Posted by: Grail Knight at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (RUyqV)

143 I only have step grandchildren. I have no
relationship with half of them but I've committed myself to pray for
them every day until I'm called home whether they appreciate it or not.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (lgiXo)

Rev prays over the kids and grandkids every night after supper, in his loud praying voice. I read the wee ones Bible stories, since there is no Sunday School or AWANA now. Thank you Chinese Covid. I wonder - will they lean on Jesus after I'm gone? Thank God both of my kids are Christ followers.

Good on you for covering them with prayer, NL

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (45fpk)

144 After "The Great Reset" has fucked everything up...
who gets the kids? They can't take care of themselves.

Rhetorical question only.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (3H9h1)

145 Actually have to thank Time magazine for help with that
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (ifmtJ)

Yes, indeed.

And they themselves are on The List.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (rNyNM)

146
Where ya been. The place needs your ~~tracts~~ chesticles and liveliness.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (jBRLB)

Fixed.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (Zz0t1)

147 Any males in here remember crying over something stupid or trivial when you were a kid and dad, mom, grandpa or grandma asking what you were crying for?

"You want something to cry about? I'll give you something to cry about".

WHACK!!!!

There! Now you have something to cry about!

Posted by: JROD at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (0jZnq)

148 Hemp could play a crucial role in saving America.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (rNyNM)

Very heavy stuff, 45 ball is lighter.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (ifmtJ)

149 142 The game Fallout talks about a past where America fights a defensive war against China. Seems less unlikely now
Posted by: Grail Knight at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (RUyqV)

"War. War never changes."

Narrated by Ron Pearlman before he went insane.

Posted by: Thrawn at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM (5NXRQ)

150 Getting our asses handed to us in every way possible by stupid people doesn't make me feel any better. Doesn't matter if they are mostly dumb. They are very well organized and disciplined where it counts, and don't care about transgressing any boundary they can in the name of gaining power, if they can get away with it.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (DXFDM)

Well, it's frustrating for sure. But I also don't think they're that well organized or disciplined. I just think virtually everyone drawn to government / NGO's / positions of power and influence have a similar "fuck everyone, I want what's MINE" attitude, which at times has the side effect of aligning the "elite" against the "regular people."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM (UPoLF)

151 Where ya been. The place needs your tracts and liveliness.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:50 PM (jBRLB)

Trying to keep my blood pressure down by not giving into my craving for performative outrage.

I really need a less enraging hobby than politics, like I don't know, petting spiders or something.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM (GbPPJ)

152 The game Fallout talks about a past where America fights a defensive war against China. Seems less unlikely now
Posted by: Grail Knight at February 09, 2021 05:53 PM (RUyqV)

"War. War never changes."

Narrated by Ron Pearlman before he went insane.
Posted by: Thrawn at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM (5NXRQ)

I think Buck Rogers, the original comic strip, had a future America overrun by the Chinese too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (ifmtJ)

153 Both the U.S. and U.S.S.R. lost the Cold War to China.

No, I don't think so. I suspect China is a LOT weaker than we think, just as the USSR was.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (rNyNM)

154 ..Harry you are right as rain

and being in advertising, I can attest that PR people write the news you read everyone likes this system the way it is; journalists or whatever they are are LAZY as all get out. Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 09, 2021 05:39 PM (j9HX3)

I was in the Corporate world (NYSE/Fortune 1000 company) in the '80s & '90s. I'd lost count of the number of Press Releases I'd sent to various print, radio and TV outlets. More than once, what I sent was published in print EXACTLY as I'd provided. And when the TV stations would cover a Groundbreaknig or Grand Opening? They had the original Press Release, but I also give them a one-page sheet printed with easily recited *bullet points* in large, 20 point font. (this was before field portable teleprompters.) Other than their superior elocution, it was no different than handing a 1st grader a "script" for the school play.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (QzJWU)

155 But I don't think China's like ... pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:48 PM (UPoLF)

I go back and forth on it. On the one hand, it appears they essentially have an organization that secretly runs with military precision (as evidence, see: the discipline involved in tightly coordinating messaging across many platforms for five decades - they do not *turn*, and when someone rarely does, it is quickly dealt with and memory-holed).

The thing I go back and forth on is it's almost impossible to believe any group of humans can be *so* coordinated in a conspiracy of taking over practically every organization in existence... and that therefore such a vast and effective conspiracy could only be perpetrated by the Father of Lies.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (jBRLB)

156 Still ticking!
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (robyy)

*High five*

*Butt slap*

*Fist bump*

\m/

Posted by: Robert at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (1Yy3c)

157 We need hemp to make hawsers for our vast fleet of solar and wind powered merchant marine freighters, which will be shipping American food and raw materials to our new besties, China ...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (OfiR7)

158 My mom would say "If you don't stop crying, I'll give you something to cry about."

Same difference.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (2BZBZ)

159 Does the Empress need a GoFundMe for a new atomic Sybian?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (robyy)

160 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM (GbPPJ)

I hear ya. I frankly gotta do the same but I'm not feeling well so I've just drifted in and out of here all day.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:56 PM (jBRLB)

161 No conspiracy, emergent behavior. Just too much collusion between people with more power than character.

The unbelievable premise in Hot Fuzz wasn't the murders, it was the black cloaks and flashlights under the chin.

Posted by: Grail Knight at February 09, 2021 05:56 PM (RUyqV)

162 I've been saying for years that a politician becomes a Republican if he lives in an area where Republicans are likely to win, and a Democrat if he lives in an area where he thinks Democrats are likely to win.

Our politicians don't have ideologies beyond "what can I do to get the most power (and money) for myself?"

And if someone with a strong ideology wanted to get to Congress, their local "king makers" in the party would not let them go anywhere, and the national party would support their primary opponents.

Very rarely, someone does make it through who doesn't realize what the game is, but they are relegated to back bench status, the party / media / everyone ignores them, and the parties work together to get them out of office as quickly as possible.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (UPoLF)

163 China is dying a demographic game. China needs women!

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (2BZBZ)

164 Well day just got a bit brighter. DHL just delivered the very new Hong Kong Models 1/48 B-17F Flying Fortress "Memphis Belle."

I mentioned that I purchased the 1/700 USS Montana the other day. It was coming from Hong Kong. The order got cancelled. Seller said there were problems shipping out of Hong Kong due package size.

However, Chinese conglomerate Alibaba has no problem shipping after I inquired with them. Didn't order it. I bet the Hong Kong seller is their version of a deplorable.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (necEF)

165 Build your own republic

Posted by: A dude in MI at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (/6GbT)

166 China has our population + a billion. They are going to do anything at all possible to become the #1 power. I pray they piss India off even more.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (9GwoA)

167 I really need a less enraging hobby than politics, like I don't know, petting spiders or something.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM (GbPPJ)

I think what angers me the most about all this kung flu crap is that it killed outlets that were non-political. Social dancing? Concerts? Classes? All gone. All that's left is the internet.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (jOcSX)

168 Other than their superior elocution, it was no different than handing a 1st grader a "script" for the school play.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (QzJWU)

Exhibit A:

https://youtu.be/htrc2zmuwlE

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 05:58 PM (Zz0t1)

169

There's a late 60s or early 70s movie where the Chinese dig a tunnel under the Pacific and invade California.

Ultimately the Americans win by having the yellow peril sodomized to death by San Francisco faggots...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at February 09, 2021 05:58 PM (OfiR7)

170 Tom S., Joe M. and Harry,
Some are simply stupid because of their lousy education but they think that they are smart and virtuous. Anyone saying that this time is different than the past because the current generation is smarter, wiser, more moral, etc. are people educated beyond their competence. These are the ones that read Tom Friedman books and believe them to be profound. Dr. Pangloss was such a simp in literature.

Some are simply garden variety evil--they want sex, money, power, etc. and have no restraining morals so they go with whoever and whatever they can to get it. These are the Nanzi's and Schiffs of the world.

Some ride the water of society like a surfer (Talleyrand is a perfect example of this, perhaps Fauci today has the same degree of shamelessness and self interest). They are out for themselves and will do or say anything.

Last, you do have some evil masterminds--they just want to see the world burn and thoroughly plan and plot what they do. Mass suffering is their goal because their lives are meaningless and empty except for causing such catastrophes. Mao was one such along with Pol Pot.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 05:58 PM (pO7gM)

171 88 74 I've rubbed shoulders with this social class for much of my life, they are, for the most part, absolute idiots with no critical thinking skills, who have the social skills and maturity levels of 10th grade girls.

We're giving them too much credit by thinking they're intelligent and working behind the scenes doing smart things.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:37 PM (UPoLF)
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We're back in the eighth grade; skill sets have developed over time.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 05:58 PM (DZ9eZ)

172 The thing I go back and forth on is it's almost impossible to believe
any group of humans can be *so* coordinated in a conspiracy of taking
over practically every organization in existence... and that therefore
such a vast and effective conspiracy could only be perpetrated by the
Father of Lies.

Yup, Stan and his commie retards are having a field day right now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (HaL55)

173 I really need a less enraging hobby than politics, like I don't know, petting spiders or something.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM (GbPPJ)

Fan dancing, belly dancing and/or fire breathing.

Posted by: Robert at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (1Yy3c)

174 The iCloud celebrity photo dump wasn't really a "hack" in the traditional sense. From what has been released publicly about it, it was mostly social engineering against the individual celebs.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (UW2ZS)

175 I really need a less enraging hobby than politics, like I don't know, petting spiders or something.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM (GbPPJ)

Influencery.

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (KnJdm)

176 Hemp could play a crucial role in saving America.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (rNyNM)

Very heavy stuff, 45 ball is lighter.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021)

Mark, there's more to life than guns and ammo, unless you plan to walk around naked and carry all your magazines in your spare hand.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (KAi1n)

177 Seller of this kit was out of South Korea. But it traveled to Hong Kong before getting to the US.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (robyy)

178 Fan dancing, belly dancing and/or fire breathing.

Posted by: Robert at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (1Yy3c)

Or his idea is better.

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (KnJdm)

179
I don't know for certain anything. I do know that in early November of 2019 my wife got a nasty lung infection. She was involved in the sort of activity that the CDC absolutely cautions against, close encounters, singing. She had an MRI that revealed certain verbiage that is common with the China lung rot. "Ground glass" lesions or such. She got over it in a couple of days.

I could not say definitely it started in the US and quickly got to China, or vice versa. I talked to my brother in Naples, FL recently - same thing - his family went through some sort of lung rot in November, 2019. He lives in an international city also. He had a friend in the area who suffered the same thing.

Perhaps it was some former variant of the covid. I'd like to think that no US agency would ever subject its own citizens to some nasty virus in order to win an election. But that was last years brain. Anymore? I just don't fvcking know.

Posted by: Pennsylvania Conservative at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (N/gDA)

180 The thing I go back and forth on is it's almost impossible to believe any group of humans can be *so* coordinated in a conspiracy of taking over practically every organization in existence... and that therefore such a vast and effective conspiracy could only be perpetrated by the Father of Lies.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (jBRLB)

Yeah, I think their interests happen to align. The people in media got those jobs because they are not smart, they are "team players," and they just parrot what everyone else around them says. I don't think it's some massive conspiracy. NY Times writers don't need to get secret talking points memos on what to say or do, they know what to say or do because they've been, for lack of a better word, brainwashed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (UPoLF)

181 >>>Ultimately the Americans win by having the yellow peril sodomized to death by San Francisco faggots...
Posted by: Dirty Frank at February 09, 2021 05:58 PM (OfiR7)
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There's a movie in that story board.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (DZ9eZ)

182 Fire breathing belly dancing

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (robyy)

183 One of the most effective strategies we could have to beat the left would be to form a movement pointing out chinese atrocities, how the Chinese military treats gays, chinese colonization of Africa, etc. Undercut Biden at his woke source.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (ftFVW)

184 China is dying a demographic game.

There's that, for sure, but there's also staggering levels of corruption and incompetence, and their centrally-planned economy, with lots of government enterprises.

And we KNOW how those run. No reason to think the Sino version runs any better.

One thing in their favor, however, is they execute some people for getting caught in corrupt practices and/or screwing up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (rNyNM)

185 And if someone with a strong ideology wanted to get to Congress, their local "king makers" in the party would not let them go anywhere, and the national party would support their primary opponents.

Very rarely, someone does make it through who doesn't realize what the game is, but they are relegated to back bench status, the party / media / everyone ignores them, and the parties work together to get them out of office as quickly as possible.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (UPoLF)

Yep. I've seen WA state GOP freeze out and sabotage anyone who actually believes in small government.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 06:01 PM (ifmtJ)

186 @118
I'm not on any drugs.

Cardiac Stress test came back with nothing remarkable other than an occasional skipped beat during the test, which the Doctor said was typical.
Next will probably be a Nuclear Stress Test.

Personally, I think I'm experiencing work related stress induced panic attacks that are manifesting themselves by causing shortness of breath and chest discomfort.

I've had ekg's, chest x-ray's, stress tests, blood tests, etc.

I drove out to Penn State yesterday for work and halfway there, I had trouble breathing, I felt like a fish gasping for air. Stopped at a rest stop and walked for a bit, the cold air restored my lungs.

So, there's that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 06:01 PM (NkRam)

187 All that hemp clothing in the headshop where I get my e-cig juice looks very uncomfortable and scratchy.

Like hair shirts, only hempy. I guess if you lie around in them enough without washing them or bathing yourself, they soften up.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 09, 2021 06:02 PM (Bmy3R)

188 There is absolutely no way that things would go horribly awry if I took up fire breathing belly dancing.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 06:02 PM (GbPPJ)

189 All politicians have a common sickness; diarrhea of the mouth.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 09, 2021 06:02 PM (3H9h1)

190 Not sure if anything would change Covid or not with me, have got done lots of hobby projects I never thought would be done in 10 years.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2021 06:02 PM (Cxk7w)

191 AtC, try sculpting. All that lovely clay waiting to be brought to life from your fingers.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 06:03 PM (9GwoA)

192 Speaking of racism, how dare he!? "Despite being dropped by his label for using a racist slur, Morgan Wallen's latest album remains on top of Billboard chart."

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2021 06:03 PM (d6he9)

193
I drove out to Penn State yesterday for work

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 06:01 PM (NkRam)

Good thing you're not a young boy.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:03 PM (Zz0t1)

194 AtC, try sculpting. All that lovely clay waiting to be brought to life from your fingers.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 06:03 PM (9GwoA)

That's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:04 PM (Zz0t1)

195 Depends Empress if there is a stapler or a copy machine nearby.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 06:04 PM (robyy)

196 Mark, there's more to life than guns and ammo, unless you plan to walk around naked and carry all your magazines in your spare hand.
Posted by: SFGoth at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (KAi1n)

Yeah. There's hot chicks and movies too.

And I have belts, holsters and pouches for the noisemakers.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 06:04 PM (ifmtJ)

197 >>> effective conspiracy could only be perpetrated by the Father of Lies.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 05:55 PM (jBRLB)
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Taking broadsides. He's in on it and there's a larger portion of people than usual, looking for it.
At the same time people on or close to our side are sitting with their hands in their pockets.

It appears that they are making greater effort than we are.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (DZ9eZ)

198 @193

Nope, very old.

And getting older.

Hopefully.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (NkRam)

199 Now that I think about it: fire breathing belly dancing with finger puppets might be pushing things.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (robyy)

200 Thomas Bender - I hope you get answers to your medical dilemma very soon. I hope it is something minor and treatable. I pray it is not panic attacks.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (45fpk)

201 Ahhh, the Memphis Belle. "Let's put the pickle in the pickle barrel."

Posted by: SFGoth at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (KAi1n)

202 I've been saying for years that a politician becomes a Republican if he
lives in an area where Republicans are likely to win, and a Democrat if
he lives in an area where he thinks Democrats are likely to win.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (UPoLF)

Bingo! That's why all the so-called conservatives go along with democrats. They are ideological brethren, but they don't live in a liberal area. They couldn't get elected without conning the rubes.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (7bRMQ)

203
I drove out to Penn State yesterday for work and halfway there, I had trouble breathing, I felt like a fish gasping for air. Stopped at a rest stop and walked for a bit, the cold air restored my lungs.

So, there's that.

Sounds like my Husband.. He was having symptoms like you.. Went through all the tests and they gave him BP medicine.... Come to find out it was the job he was in causing the stress... When he changed jobs the stress stopped and no more BP medicine

Posted by: It's me donna at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (Zmnko)

204 Sponge, I was damn near going to turn it into a bodice ripper.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (9GwoA)

205 AtC, try sculpting. All that lovely clay waiting to be brought to life from your fingers.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 06:03 PM (9GwoA)

Seconded.

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (KnJdm)

206 166 Ben, they have been doing that India now has 1.4 billion, nukes, and China is forcing them to become increasingly nationalistic.

Bozo C. and I had a discussion online about it. Essentially Bozo believes that India's still profound poverty will prevent it from making a successful challenge to China. My belief is that the democracy in India is still young, the nation is much younger than China, and the use of English as lingua franca of the subcontinent gives them more power. In addition, Pakistan their traditional rival is increasingly being left behind economically and socially.

China has a new emperor (Xi) and that means a succession fight sometime in the future and unifying via external war is likely to destroy the current regime. China's increasing belligerence and external supply chains are a weakness, not a strength when you behave like a bully.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (pO7gM)

207 Nearly everyone has weaknesses, a burning desire for something, and a sell-out price. It doesn't take a 40 year-long study of Confucian and Freudian writings to know this. Couple those human characteristics with buyers who have unlimited money and unlimited human and material resources to "offer," and you may have a serious problem with the allegiance of your public officials and corporate officers.

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (AMIL/)

208 NY Times writers don't need to get secret talking points memos on what to say or do, they know what to say or do because they've been, for lack of a better word, brainwashed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (UPoLF)

Yeah I think we still diverge here. An extremely tight leash has been put on the news outlets since 2009 when President Jarrett came in.

The Left doesn't *trust* the remotest strand of free thought, even from its own pupae. Everything from 2009 to 2016 was directed from the WH.

And before that there was Journolist.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 06:06 PM (jBRLB)

209 ..I am rather disappointed in Trump's lack of engagement and leadership since the election was stolen. Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 09, 2021 05:46 PM (o2MD2)

I'd imagine that Trump is doing a lot more than is seen and heard, at present. Certainly, they've done an effective job of muzzling his voice with DDOS across ALL of the Public Contact Platforms.

And remember. They didn't muzzle Trump to punish HIM, but to oppress US.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2021 06:06 PM (QzJWU)

210 Fire breathing belly dancing
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (robyy)

https://youtu.be/YxYhcNuL1P0

https://youtu.be/EEMx92h8V9U

https://youtu.be/pH5chbvhUpI

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 09, 2021 06:06 PM (jOcSX)

211 Ultimately the Americans win by having the yellow peril sodomized to death by San Francisco faggots...
Posted by: Dirty Frank at February 09, 2021 05:58 PM (OfiR7)
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There's a movie in that story board.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (DZ9eZ)

"Dirty" Harry Callahan is back on the streets of San Francisco. He's on a mission to catch the criminals sodomizing the Yellow Peril Gang of Faggots.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:06 PM (Zz0t1)

212 172 The thing I go back and forth on is it's almost impossible to believe

any group of humans can be *so* coordinated in a conspiracy of taking

over practically every organization in existence... and that therefore

such a vast and effective conspiracy could only be perpetrated by the

Father of Lies.
Yup, Stan and his commie retards are having a field day right now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 09, 2021 05:59 PM (HaL55)
I think of them as wildebeests. A huge herd wandering across the plains, all in one direction.

Posted by: Javems at February 09, 2021 06:06 PM (8SSHh)

213 Sponge, I was damn near going to turn it into a bodice ripper.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (9GwoA

LMFAO.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:07 PM (Zz0t1)

214 125 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:45 PM (GbPPJ)

Where ya been. The place needs your tracts and liveliness.
tracts as in "huge ... tracts of land", right?

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 09, 2021 06:07 PM (v3pYe)

215 Nationalist China is now wondering how many days they have left as a nation.

Posted by: Archer at February 09, 2021 06:07 PM (gmo/4)

216 >>> "the new American oligarchy believes that democracy's failures are proof of their own exclusive right to power and they are happy to rule in partnership with a foreign power that will help them destroy their own countrymen.

What does history teach us about this moment? The bad news is that the Thirty Tyrants exiled notable Athenian democrats and confiscated their property while murdering an estimated 5% of the Athenian population. The good news is that their rule lasted less than a year"

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:07 PM (DZ9eZ)

217 AtC, try sculpting. All that lovely clay waiting to be brought to life from your fingers.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 06:03 PM (9GwoA)

https://youtu.be/PJb0AQOWSYk

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 09, 2021 06:07 PM (jOcSX)

218 This has been so obvious for a very long time. When you consider the hatred and contempt of Trump from the beginning - the hostility, the anger, the frothing of the mouth by the Left, with the most limited cause, over anything and everything, you realize what a giant threat he became to the Chinese suck-ups and minions, the money makers and money laundering schemers, the grafters and the commie lovers, the people who own the media, own the universities, own the communications, own the manufacturing and trade. Trump had to and has to be destroyed. And because, the people on the Right are in on it too.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 09, 2021 06:08 PM (YfDWa)

219 @200

Thank you, I hope so too.

Hopefully it's not panic attacks.

All of the drugs for panic attacks end up knocking people on their asses.

I don't want to take any drugs.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 06:08 PM (NkRam)

220 halfway there, I had trouble breathing, I felt like a fish gasping for air. Stopped at a rest stop and walked for a bit, the cold air restored my lungs.

So, there's that.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 06:01 PM (NkRam)

That's scary AF! I had similar issues, and it was a cloged artery on the front of my heart. An overnight stay to get a stent, and i'm good to go a year later.

Posted by: BifBewalski - wants good news at February 09, 2021 06:08 PM (VcFUs)

221 Lee Smith has said out loud what I have been personally wondering about more and more the last few years. How many of the sociopolitical elite are working for the good of the USA as well as themselves? How many of them are working to advance the agendas of foreign powers as they advance their own rewarding agendas? I suspect the actual answer won't make me or anyone else here happy.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 09, 2021 06:08 PM (W+kMI)

222 China's increasing belligerence and external supply chains are a weakness, not a strength when you behave like a bully.

I heard it mentioned that Chyna has no allies. Is that true? If so, who are they? And with 1.3B people, why would they need them?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 09, 2021 06:09 PM (HaL55)

223 >Yeah, I think their interests happen to align. The people in media got those jobs because they are not smart, they are "team players," and they just parrot what everyone else around them says. I don't think it's some massive conspiracy. NY Times writers don't need to get secret talking points memos on what to say or do, they know what to say or do because they've been, for lack of a better word, brainwashed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (UPoLF)

I disagree a little on your assertion that there is no significant coordination on the left. While it's definitely true the interlocking, common interests probably explain a lot of the lower level behavior we see, I'm convinced there are those who exploit this common leftist tic that causes them to follow the crowd by default. Most obvious are the "community organizing" types that were extensively documented by the right during the Obama regime. More frightening is the how the three-letter agencies play into it, although they may be more of a subordinate to something bigger.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 09, 2021 06:09 PM (DXFDM)

224 199 Now that I think about it: fire breathing belly dancing with finger puppets might be pushing things.
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It would be a big hit at Renfaire though. I'd pay $$ to watch it.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 09, 2021 06:09 PM (W+kMI)

225 But does he support the LGBTQRZ community?

Posted by: Washington Gay Blade at February 09, 2021 06:10 PM (63Dwl)

226 exdem13, take a gander at my #42

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 06:10 PM (robyy)

227 @203

Unfortunately stress is part of the deal with my job.

I'd have to change professions, which is possible but I've been doing this so long that I don't know how to quit it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 06:10 PM (NkRam)

228 My belief is that the democracy in India is still young, the nation is much younger than China, and the use of English as lingua franca of the subcontinent gives them more power. In addition, Pakistan their traditional rival is increasingly being left behind economically and socially.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (pO7gM)

I have a much different read on India. I had a good friend who grew up in India, came to the US for law school. I got to know him, his friends and family very well. I think the culture is fucked. Fixable? Maybe. But the British, who were pretty good at that kind of stuff, did not do a great job.

China's culture is way less fucked then India's, and that's saying something.

Think about growing up in a culture that does not believe human life is of equal worth, that believes corruption is a good thing, and that has always felt that materialism is something to be celebrated -- to the point where rappers are like "dude, that's too much" and that believes that working is for saps, that the real path to success is fucking people over and stealing what is theirs.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:11 PM (UPoLF)

229 Harry,
I believe it is more a factor of education and donor reliance.
The easy way to climb the greasy pole of politics is to pay your dues at the lower level and signal that a) you can win, b) your behavior in office is pliable to donor wishes. That lets the donors know that you are one of them and will play ball.

The donor class wants something out of politicians and generally that is access to the public trough, power in legislating, and preening about power access to one's peers.

Voters are the ones that want good policy outcomes but don't know how to identify them. Thus, the donor interest group class identifies the policies, figures out how to grift from it or at least virtue signal for them, and how to keep any such policies from affecting their interests.

A politician wanting their independence from such and from party leaders that the donor representatives to Congress have to create their own funding and political network--Rand is an example and Jesse Helms was another.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:11 PM (pO7gM)

230 I'm not a cat.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 09, 2021 06:11 PM (UW2ZS)

231 People still don't believe me when I say that 80% or more of Republicans are likely communists and the rest are bought. Maybe we want to believe somehow that they're all bought because it makes us sleep better.

Up until maybe a decade ago, most national Democrats ran as Republicans. With Republican sounding language. Controlling the border, watching spending, reducing the debt. Why do we think they're the only people capable of lying with Republican language? Because they only do it for a year? Because it's a nice thought?

R's are commies playing a part - doing what commies do. They are there to give people an illusion of choice during the Long March.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2021 06:11 PM (jBRLB)

232 Very heavy stuff, 45 ball is lighter.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021)

22 LR is lighter yet.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 09, 2021 06:11 PM (vD+8F)

233 Very heavy stuff, 45 ball is lighter.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021)

22 LR is lighter yet.
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 09, 2021 06:11 PM (vD+8F)

Good point

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (ifmtJ)

234 >Nearly everyone has weaknesses, a burning desire for something, and a sell-out price. It doesn't take a 40 year-long study of Confucian and Freudian writings to know this. Couple those human characteristics with buyers who have unlimited money and unlimited human and material resources to "offer," and you may have a serious problem with the allegiance of your public officials and corporate officers.
Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2021 06:05 PM (AMIL/)

The Principal-Agent Problem is the bane of conservatives.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (DXFDM)

235 Clean bill of cardiac health? Hope you weren't on beta blockers and blood thinners when you took the test.
Posted by: BifBewalski - wants good news at February 09, 2021 05:49 PM (VcFUs)

I was on my cardiac stress test, Eliquis and Metaprolol. But that's because I had AFib. I did a nuclear stress test, but don't remember if I had to wear my mask. That was all in prep for my recent ablation procedure. Heart's back to ticking right but still have to take it easy.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (R5lpX)

236 Now that I think about it: fire breathing belly dancing with finger puppets might be pushing things.

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It would be a big hit at Renfaire though. I'd pay $$ to watch it.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 09, 2021 06:09 PM (W+kMI)

Onlyfans?

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (KnJdm)

237 CCP owns more land area in Texas (next to Laughlin AFB) than the size of RI.

CCP also owns land around military installations in FL

CCP also owns much farm land. (at least we still grow our own food - Really?)

CCP also owns Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein and how many others?

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (DZ9eZ)

238 Another male Karen steps up to keep Costco safe from a woman who hadn't put on her mask yet-

tinyurl.com/ztrgz5zz

Posted by: redridinghood at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (NpAcC)

239 Karl Marx was a satanist.

The inner party shot callers are satanists, too, back in the day and today.

See Wurmbrand's "Marx and Satan."

Wurmbrand was a Christian prisoner in the Romanian prison system. He did a deep dive on communism and communists when he got out.

The materialistic atheism is for the outer party and the oppressed population.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 09, 2021 06:13 PM (4/hUZ)

240 I pray they piss India off even more.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 05:57 PM (9GwoA)

India and Russia (weakening though they are) would keep China busy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 09, 2021 06:13 PM (Q9lwr)

241 My Indian friend bragged to me (thinking it would impress me) about how his Uncle was some kind of big deal in the police force, so they were able to bribe their way to everything -- drivers licenses, college degrees, getting in to school in the US, essentially stealing peoples apartments and renting it back to them for a lot of money, etc. etc. etc. He thinks it shows how smart and cunning his family is. And that's the culture there.

Doesn't seem like a recipe for long term success.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:13 PM (UPoLF)

242 230 I'm not a cat.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 09, 2021 06:11 PM (UW2ZS)

First Insom, now you...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 06:13 PM (ifmtJ)

243 Onlyfans?
Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (KnJdm)

AtC?

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:13 PM (DZ9eZ)

244 I developed an irregular heartbeat a few years ago which was determined to be stress induced. They prescribed a beta blocker, but I didn't like the side effects, so I stopped taking those.

I just learned how to tell people to fuck off at work more, just with a smile and a wink and less profanity.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:14 PM (Zz0t1)

245 Just saw Fred Barnes on TV saying Trump should shut up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2021 06:14 PM (63Dwl)

246 whig, What Harry just said is true to a certain extent. I do believe there is a vast difference between the cultures. I want to respond to your premise but I want to be clear on my thoughts, not just running my mouth.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2021 06:15 PM (9GwoA)

247 Karl Marx was a satanist.

So was Saul Alinsky, whom Her Heinous adored.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 09, 2021 06:15 PM (HaL55)

248 Churchill: "God is on our side."

Stalin "The devil is on our side; he's a good communist."

Posted by: Archer at February 09, 2021 06:15 PM (gmo/4)

249 > China's culture is way less fucked then India's, and that's saying something.

99.9999% of Americans will ever say anything as racist as your average Indian talking about dark skinned Indians.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 09, 2021 06:15 PM (UW2ZS)

250 @245

Barnes?

Barnes is alive?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2021 06:15 PM (NkRam)

251 Just saw Fred Barnes on TV
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2021 06:14 PM (63Dwl)

Isn't he 1/2 of the Cuck Cruise Ship?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:15 PM (Zz0t1)

252 Wurmbrand was a Christian prisoner in the Romanian
prison system. He did a deep dive on communism and communists when he
got out.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 09, 2021 06:13 PM (4/hUZ)

Could you explain a little more about that last point? I'm dumber than I look.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (45fpk)

253 210 Fire breathing belly dancing
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (robyy)
https://youtu.be/YxYhcNuL1P0
https://youtu.be/EEMx92h8V9U
https://youtu.be/pH5chbvhUpI
===
A true man of culture, I see.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (W+kMI)

254 Honor used to be a thing. Well, it still is a thing. It just doesn't mean anything.

Posted by: Seize'er at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (iEgYA)

255 Just saw Fred Barnes on TV saying Trump should shut up.

Like he's been able to say anything

Posted by: It's me donna at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (Zmnko)

256
Barnes is alive?
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Just barely

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (63Dwl)

257 Man if I had a dollar for every time some website to the right of CNN was called "hard-right"...

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (gDJlP)

258 I am not tinfoil hat material, but I have assumed the PRC and likely its Deep State toadies intentionally released Covid 19. If that is proved, and those responsible identified, targeted assassinations not only would be justified but would be necessary to prevent outright civil and possible nuclear war. And given everything that has happened, who would be shocked if this is confirmed?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (puu6v)

259 Was it Lee Smith that became a leper at Breitbart or am I thinking of someone else whose name escapes me? I've always liked Lee Smith's stuff. He seems pretty level headed. But, we all saw this coming last year at the very least.

Posted by: turambar at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (Gylu/)

260 There is absolutely no way that things would go horribly awry if I took up fire breathing belly dancing.

I completely agree with this.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (nxdel)

261 >>>I just learned how to tell people to fuck off at work more, just with a smile and a wink and less profanity.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:14 PM (Zz0t1)
-------------------

Glad it worked. I'm a no chocolate, no coffee, no cinnamon, not anything fun diet and pills.
The way it's going don't know if that will be enough much longer.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (DZ9eZ)

262 BackwardsBoy,

Yes. Saul Alinsky's hat tip to Lucifer in the preface of "Rules for Radicals" wasn't some smart aleck joke.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (4/hUZ)

263 As early as 2015, Fauci's bureaucracy was looking at making a more potent SARS-type virus, ostensibly to develop a powerful vaccine from such a virus.
The term of art was "gain in function".

At the time, there was a big debate within the research community in the US about this, and it was decided that it was dangerous and unethical to pursue this research.

But...that didn't stop Dr. Fauci, who sent money to the Wuhan laboratory to do just this (as did the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, among others). The Head of the lab did several presentations in the intervening years about just what they were doing.
Come 2020 and Covid19, and Dr. Fauci had never HEARD of the Wuhan virology lab, even though he probably got monthly reports from their (at least) for years and has sent millions of US tax dollars there for "research".

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (vcOmj)

264 > China's culture is way less fucked then India's, and that's saying something.

99.9999% of Americans will ever say anything as racist as your average Indian talking about dark skinned Indians.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 09, 2021 06:15 PM (UW2ZS)

I don't know. It's almost as if there are different planes of fuckedupedness, and both are about equal in magnitude.

Is India imprisoning and enslaving religious minorities, sterilizing them, harvesting organs?

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (KnJdm)

265 222 Backwards Boy,
Ask anyone from neighboring countries like Vietnam, Japan, Korea, India, Thailand, the PI's, even Australia, etc. about Chinese.

Ill feelings have spread to other countries' populations having dealings with Chinese on an official level.

Unsophisticated threats, bribes, loansharking, interference in other country's politics, trying to dominate resources in the area,etc. are making the Chinese enemies.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (pO7gM)

266 A politician wanting their independence from such and from party leaders that the donor representatives to Congress have to create their own funding and political network--Rand is an example and Jesse Helms was another.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:11 PM (pO7gM)

Yeah, but the problem is that the media / social media / parties / etc. work to shut down anyone who is not playing the game.

And Rand only was able to get in to office because his dad was famously very principled and had a cult following. That's not something easily replicable.

And I mean do you guys remember the hatred for both Ron and Rand all over the right, including here at the 'hq? It was absurd.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (UPoLF)

267 Man if I had a dollar for every time some website to the right of CNN was called "hard-right"...
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (gDJlP)

Anything on the right is "right wing extremism."

The left can come out with road side abortion and glory holes at every corner, but that's not extreme.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (Zz0t1)

268 Indians are class separated more than anyone but I don't think India will ever systematically murder millions of their citizens in a purge.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at February 09, 2021 06:18 PM (2DOZq)

269 Sculpting is fun, starting in clay you can easy make something yet change it or start over .

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2021 06:18 PM (Cxk7w)

270 "I'm not a cat.
Posted by: bonhomme"

You seem pretty cool to me.

Posted by: Zombie Sammy Davis Jr at February 09, 2021 06:18 PM (iEgYA)

271 Two quibblettes (very small quibbles).

Quiblette one. The "systemic racism" slander/fantasy/grift exists completely outside of the China Class thing, pre-dated it, and is just the latest branding of the racist, race-baiting grift that grew out of the civil rights era. Jesse JACKson and Al Sharpton, anyone? Sure it may have been tossed in the stew to destabilize/intimidate normal America during last year, possible one of the worst years in our history, but that's about it.

Quiblette two. Financial or power self-dealing is far from the sole basis for much of this. This seems to be now an oversimplification crutch that taints almost all good analyses. Nobody does anything except for $, or from blackmail pressure. That's it. There really aren't stupid people, or people with loathsome alien values, who gain positions of influence. Or small, cowardly people. Except - there are. The $/extortion reductionism is tedious and dumb, and the optimism it requires borders on dangerous naivete.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2021 06:18 PM (OTzUX)

272 Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (DZ9eZ)
luckily they are not involved in Africa. At least we have that.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2021 06:19 PM (cVcEL)

273 Right on time: Biden reversed a recent Trump EO which required that schools and universities report contracts and other ties with Confucius Institutes and related entities.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 09, 2021 06:19 PM (sWM8x)

274 The Middle East and the Subcontinent have the most fucked up societies on the planet.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 09, 2021 06:19 PM (UIXXm)

275 When of the serious challenges in martyrdom is the fact it won't affect only you it will affect the people you love.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 09, 2021 06:19 PM (lgiXo)

276 Btw, I saw a fairly new post on the zomblog. Definitely miss zombie's posts here.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2021 06:19 PM (gDJlP)

277 Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2021 06:19 PM (gDJlP)

Check the date again.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 09, 2021 06:20 PM (Q9lwr)

278 I don't know. It's almost as if there are different planes of fuckedupedness, and both are about equal in magnitude.

Is India imprisoning and enslaving religious minorities, sterilizing them, harvesting organs?
Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (KnJdm)

I don't know if China is even doing any of those things, since all we have to go on is what our media tells us.

According to China, they're trying to deal with their Islamic terrorist problem is the least bloody way possible. I have no idea what is true. I also don't really care, if we're being honest, with what China does inside their own borders. I know that sounds callous, but since when are we the world police? The world is a fucked up place, we should focus on doing what we can to not be fucked up at home, not worrying about how China deals with their Muslim terrorist issues.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:20 PM (UPoLF)

279
The Principal-Agent Problem is the bane of conservatives.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 09, 2021 06:12 PM (DXFDM)

Unfortunately, all republican forms of government are susceptible to the Principal-Agent Problem. I occasionally wish the Constitution permitted National Referendums. I do not wish it for long. It would also end-up being abused or debased.

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2021 06:21 PM (AMIL/)

280 grammie winger,

Howdy,

Pastor Wurmbrand was imprisoned and tortured by the Romanian communists.

When he was released from prison, he was determined to find out what he was really up against.

He researched original documents, including poems and such by Marx. Marx worshipped the devil -- that was the fuel for his intense hatred of God and people.

Did I answer your question?

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 09, 2021 06:21 PM (4/hUZ)

281 @276 (myself) Oh wai! That was last year

DOH!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2021 06:21 PM (gDJlP)

282 The Middle East and the Subcontinent have the most fucked up societies on the planet.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 09, 2021 06:19 PM (UIXXm)

How dare you!

Posted by: Sub-Saharan Africa at February 09, 2021 06:21 PM (Q9lwr)

283 Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2021 06:00 PM (robyy)
https://youtu.be/YxYhcNuL1P0
https://youtu.be/EEMx92h8V9U
https://youtu.be/pH5chbvhUpI
===
A true man of culture, I see.
Posted by: exdem13 at February 09, 2021 06:16 PM (W+kMI)
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Why wax it when you can singe it off?

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:22 PM (DZ9eZ)

284 138 But we've got The List.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 09, 2021 05:51 PM (rNyNM)

Actually have to thank Time magazine for help with that
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 05:52 PM (ifmtJ)

One of the most enraging (and confusing, on the surface) parts of the TIME article was the pact between the US Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO to take out Trump. If you're a rank-and-file union member, it's got to be so strange that you're voting for Trump because he was protecting your wages, yet your union leadership was selling you out in a pact with the GOPe to get cheaper workers into the country.

I suppose it would make more sense when I realize that it's better to get union dues from a captive and grateful new worker than to have an older worker opt out of paying dues because of the Janus decision, and not support your Democrat paymasters as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 09, 2021 06:22 PM (hKTv8)

285 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:20 PM (UPoLF)

the Chinese should have stayed out of the Korean War, but they didn't.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2021 06:23 PM (cVcEL)

286 Come 2020 and Covid19, and Dr. Fauci had never HEARD of the Wuhan virology lab, even though he probably got monthly reports from their (at least) for years and has sent millions of US tax dollars there for "research".
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at February 09, 2021 06:17 PM (vcOmj)

It's amazing how much we learned, almost a year ago, that gave a clear view of what was going on in China, what WHO was up to, what CDC and NIH were up to here, and what people like Fauci had been planning. For years.

None of this stuff is hidden, but it's been buried under an avalanche of bullshit, and this is typical of the misinformation business. They don't have to hide it. It hides itself.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2021 06:23 PM (oQ94s)

287 Did I answer your question?

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 09, 2021 06:21 PM (4/hUZ)

Yes, thank you. I have his book, Tortured for Christ, and I support The Voice of the Martyrs, which I believe he founded. Always glad to get more information about him. Thanks.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 06:23 PM (45fpk)

288 Sculpting is fun, starting in clay you can easy make something yet change it or start over .
Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2021 06:18 PM (Cxk7w)

A former client, lawyer, used to do Bronzes. He started out with clay, then had the finished work bronzed. One of his works is a bust of Sandra Day O'Connor and it sits in the foyer of the Supreme Court.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at February 09, 2021 06:23 PM (R5lpX)

289 I suppose it would make more sense when I realize that it's better to get union dues from a captive and grateful new worker than to have an older worker opt out of paying dues because of the Janus decision, and not support your Democrat paymasters as well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 09, 2021 06:22 PM (hKTv

Nah, union leaders backed Dems because they'd rather get kickbacks and money funneled through government projects than from the private sector.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 09, 2021 06:24 PM (jOcSX)

290 >276

Zombie walked away from AOSHQ?

Posted by: 13times at February 09, 2021 06:24 PM (K3B2k)

291 You fucked up, Taiwan--you trusted us.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 09, 2021 06:24 PM (sWM8x)

292 I know that sounds callous, but since when are we
the world police? The world is a fucked up place, we should focus on
doing what we can to not be fucked up at home, not worrying about how
China deals with their Muslim terrorist issues.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:20 PM (UPoLF)

Non sequitur. The comparison is India and China. Both are equally fucked up. That does not make us the world police.

Posted by: 4 at February 09, 2021 06:24 PM (KnJdm)

293 241 Harry,
If you think that China is much different, it is not. One of the consistencies in trading with China is that the initial merchandise supplied to the trader is great (same as a smack dealer), it is only later that the product is adulterated to make the producer more money.

Most of the world are not high trust like NW Europe and indeed a Chinese or Indian placed in Rome during the Roman Empire would have felt quite at home with the corruption. The Russians still blame the Mongols, etc. for introducing it to their culture and so on.

The sociologist identify this strange personality type that arose in North Western Europe as WEIRD--Western Educated Industrialized Rich Democratic that would tend to frown on corruption in office. Historians use the Hajnal line as an example in Europe between low and high trust societies. And so it goes.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:25 PM (pO7gM)

294 Sculpting.

https://youtu.be/TnHhXxCOc7A?t=11

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:26 PM (Zz0t1)

295 >Zombie walked away from AOSHQ?
Posted by: 13times at February 09, 2021 06:24 PM (K3B2k)

I think for security reasons, not a flounce.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 09, 2021 06:26 PM (DXFDM)

296 You fucked up, Taiwan--you trusted us.

Posted by: Joe Biden

Don't forget us!

Posted by: Israel at February 09, 2021 06:26 PM (r1z5A)

297 @290 not in anger. Just doing that grey man thing for now, I think.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (gDJlP)

298 An expert is someone who knows more than you about some thing.

Posted by: torabora at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (Y274z)

299 Zombie walked away from AOSHQ?
Posted by: 13times at February 09, 2021 06:24 PM (K3B2k)

More has gone to ground. Zombie is deep behind enemy lines and with the Fraud election, they don't feel safe posting here.

Last posting was mid Dec, I think.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (ifmtJ)

300 290 Zombie lives in the belly of the beast (at least supposedly Bay Area around Berkeley environs) so to speak and due to her hobbies that would be unpopular with SJW's over the years is particularly sensitive to being doxxed.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (pO7gM)

301 @268:

Despite frequent Hindu/Muslim clashes, agreed. Sadly, I cannot say as a certainty any longer that America is any less likely to commit mass murder than China. We have very evil people at the levers of power, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (puu6v)

302 Je ne suis pas un chat!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (d6he9)

303 285 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 09, 2021 06:20 PM (UPoLF)

the Chinese should have stayed out of the Korean War, but they didn't.
Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2021 06:23 PM (cVcEL)
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We should have crossed that parallel and ran them back to Mongolia. (Little Boy and Fat Man 2)

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (DZ9eZ)

304 Wow Anna, that Memphis Belle is quite the project! Reference page for others below.
tinyurl.com/3jp86v91
Big kit, lots of detail, had only 1 aircraft kit like that myself of such detail, never quite finished it. Much like my MG Gundam kits. Anyway, excellent works, I hope you can show us a pic or two when it's complete.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (W+kMI)

305 I am not now, nor have I ever been, a cat.

Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at February 09, 2021 06:28 PM (oSPDP)

306 grammie winger,

Good to meet you.

If I've heard it right, Pitesti prison in Romania was even worse than the Lubyanka in Moscow.

They made prisoners torture each other.

And they told Christians that they wanted them to curse God before they died, so they wouldn't go to Heaven.

Communism is deeply demonic.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 09, 2021 06:28 PM (4/hUZ)

307 *PULL UP
PULL UP *

I'm an expert. Hold my beer.

Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at February 09, 2021 06:29 PM (Y274z)

308 None of this stuff is hidden, but it's been buried under an avalanche of bullshit, and this is typical of the misinformation business. They don't have to hide it. It hides itself.
Posted by: BurtTC

Disinformation is the correct term, I believe.

We (all of us Americans) have been subjected to a VAST amount of disinformation, for years. It has gotten really bad in the last year, in particular.
And it's incredible to think of how thoroughly Donald Trump, as President, was lied to by people in his own Executive that were expected to at least be minimally loyal to him.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at February 09, 2021 06:29 PM (vcOmj)

309 we are not the World Police, and we don't want to be. The problem is China does want to be the world police. It is great to mind our own business as long as most things stay the same. The problem is when someone else starts taking over important places, then what do we do?
If China starts acting like Japan the 30s and 40s, then what do we do? I don't have the answer but at some point someone needs to have at least some good options.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2021 06:29 PM (cVcEL)

310 Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2021 06:19 PM (gDJlP)

Check the date again.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 09, 2021 06:20 PM (Q9lwr)

2020.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 09, 2021 06:29 PM (Zz0t1)

311 Trump sounded the alarms on what was happening right under our noses. He was laughed at, mocked, cursed to high Heaven, called a liar, a menace, a dictator worse than Hitler, censored, accused of inciting a riot, accused of racism, and now undergoing the second impeachment attempt. You bet they were mightily afraid of him, spilling the truth like that.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 09, 2021 06:30 PM (YfDWa)

312 Josh Kraushaar
@HotlineJosh
Louisiana Republican Party, condemning GOP Sen. Bill Cassidy: "The R Party of Louisiana is profoundly disappointed by Senator Bill Cassidy's vote on the constitutionality of the impeachment trial now underway against former President, now private citizen, Donald J. Trump"
3:15 PM � Feb 9, 2021

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at February 09, 2021 06:31 PM (FBrfY)

313 Posted by: callsign claymore at February 09, 2021 06:28 PM (4/hUZ)

Rev went to Romania shortly after the fall of Ceucescu (sp). He was horrified. And gratified at the same time because everyone wanted a Bible. Everyone wanted to hear him preach.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2021 06:31 PM (45fpk)

314 Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:27 PM (pO7gM)

How would zombie get doxxed here? That makes no sense. Probably just got sick of politics and is taking a break, like a fair number of others.

Posted by: Sub-Saharan Africa at February 09, 2021 06:31 PM (Q9lwr)

315 Posted by: BurtTC

Disinformation is the correct term, I believe.

We (all of us Americans) have been subjected to a VAST amount of disinformation, for years. It has gotten really bad in the last year, in particular.
And it's incredible to think of how thoroughly Donald Trump, as President, was lied to by people in his own Executive that were expected to at least be minimally loyal to him.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at February 09, 2021 06:29 PM (vcOmj)

I forget which one, but one is the umbrella term, the other a specific type. So if disinformation is a specific type of misinformation, or vice versa, I don't know.

All I know is, once you see it, you can't unsee it. Everywhere. This is the "red pilled" concept.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2021 06:32 PM (oQ94s)

316 Serious question: Do lowlife f'cs like Rombley and Murkey ever go home to their district's, or just perch in DC all the time?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 09, 2021 06:32 PM (7Fj9P)

317 We should have crossed that parallel and ran them back to Mongolia. (Little Boy and Fat Man 2)

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog

No dim president would ever attack a commie homeland.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 09, 2021 06:32 PM (r1z5A)

318 266 Harry, others have done it as well, but I am not on top of campaign finance as I used to be. The easiest ones that have effective independence are those that actually represent their homogeneous districts--in a deep red state, a huge amount of money for campaigns may not be necessary due to being simpatico with the voters. A lot of the GOP freedom caucus comes from such districts--often rural.

Suburban districts, swing districts, are usually expensive to campaign in, have businesses that may be large donors, and a heterogeneous voting population. They tend to cling to the party rainmakers and rely on big warchests to discourage challenges. Peter King was one such.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:33 PM (pO7gM)

319 Thanks guys.

Posted by: 13times at February 09, 2021 06:33 PM (K3B2k)

320 If you were looking for a an all female comedy troupe could you do better than six GAPEs who propped up impeachment today?

I denounce myself. Not like I was planning on future employment anyway...

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2021 06:33 PM (8erNz)

321 And the dragon gave the beast his own power and throne and great authority...

Posted by: what's China animal symbol? at February 09, 2021 06:33 PM (9p+wn)

322 You Round Eye drag Orangeguy through mud pit or you get

MOAR VIRUS

Posted by: CCP at February 09, 2021 06:33 PM (Y274z)

323 Those six traitorous (R) Senators need and deserve retribution. That said, it'll be up to their home State constituents to administer such.

Isn't being beaten half-to-death with a cane the time honored Senatorial tradition?

I'll pony up $50 for the Pay Per View.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2021 06:34 PM (QzJWU)

324 Pastor Wurmbrand sounds like wonderful man and I really liked the quote on joy, but there were a lot of good quotes there:

tinyurl.com/r1wu0rle

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 09, 2021 06:34 PM (VP4Cd)

325 And not really even a quibblette, but an observation.

Lee refers to the C19 restrictions issued by fiat.

But even stipulating the darkest scenario about the virus itself (it was crafted, not zoonotic, in Wuhan, deliberately released, etc etc) - China and the China Class had no power to inflict the damage on our society caused by *the response to the virus*.

That catastrophe arose from the collapse, hollowing out, or incompetence of all our institutional and social pillars and guard-rails. The constitution (poof, gone) - judiciary was little/no help, nor elected reps. Actual public health wisdom and science? Poof, gone, because those institutions are as rotted as anything in the country. Mass popular resistance or something to limit the damage - nope, a large % of the populace is now subsmissive, unthinking, and weened on idiotic zero-risk/exaggerated fear "thinking".

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2021 06:35 PM (OTzUX)

326 India and Russia (weakening though they are) would keep China busy.
-- CBD
Russia! Russia! Russia! is a tell. Today, Russia is the US-PRC bogeyman because it is the weakest of the three top world powers. Russia doesn't offer the US oligarchs anything close to what the Chinese put on the table. Back in the 90's, the US MSM made a big thing about the dangers of a Russia-China alliance against the US.

That was the transition period from Russia being our number one superpower adversary to China becoming our number one trading partner.

Posted by: mrp at February 09, 2021 06:35 PM (Pqytn)

327 @309:

Hapan did not have an active Fifth Column among the political and corporate classes like China does. The PRC is a major threat because a huge segment of the Administrative State would side with it if war broke out. We are in deep shit and the enemy is within.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 09, 2021 06:35 PM (puu6v)

328 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

I was looking for something related to white South Africans and there's plenty but all the usuals are in there, is it time to deplatform Wikipedia

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2021 06:35 PM (8erNz)

329 nood, sadly no cat lawyer

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 09, 2021 06:36 PM (ifmtJ)

330 314 Sub Saharan,
This is an open forum and no doubt some of your fellow AOS commenters are collecting information for dossiers. The left, in particular, likes to doxx their enemies and to do that they patiently collect as much possible including textual analysis, look for crumbs in self identifying comments, and so on.

Then, there is your friendly government informants and employees of the alphabet agencies monitoring the place.

Basically, the more you share, the thinner becomes your insulation from being identified.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:36 PM (pO7gM)

331 nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 09, 2021 06:36 PM (PpU3N)

332
Serious question: Do lowlife f'cs like Rombley and Murkey ever go home to their district's, or just perch in DC all the time?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 09, 2021 06:32 PM (7Fj9P)

I don't know a thing about their personal lives and to be honest, I could not give a damn. But traditionally, Congress Critters, particularly members of The House of Representatives go home a lot in their first couple of terms. After a while, the novelty wears off and they mostly stay in The Swamp.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2021 06:37 PM (cVcEL)

333
Impeachment Day is almost becoming as regular as Groundhog Day. Maybe Tom Hanks could play the lead in a regular series.

Posted by: Pennsylvania Conservative at February 09, 2021 06:38 PM (N/gDA)

334 "I forget which one, but one is the umbrella term, the other a specific
type. So if disinformation is a specific type of misinformation, or
vice versa, I don't know."
Mis-information is a mistake. Dis-information is lying to deceive.

Posted by: davidt at February 09, 2021 06:38 PM (l3+k2)

335 Father George Calciu, a Romanian Orthodox priest, also endured horrors inside Pitesti prison.

His writings about it are deeply moving.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 09, 2021 06:38 PM (4/hUZ)

336 Yes, Russia is Fredo Corleone with nukes. Opportunistic, limited in resources, can do damage if the damn things work and the Ukrainians haven't stolen them all.

China has twice the fleet size we have, none of the experience and far less of the air, but they're working on that.

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2021 06:38 PM (8erNz)

337 tinyurl.com/3ryj3at3
Someone posted their modle of the Mephis Bell in 2008

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2021 06:38 PM (Cxk7w)

338 @325:

China has perhaps most of the Administrative State at its beck and call. It had American rent boys do its bidding. It doesn't have to do anything but keep its consigliere paid.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 09, 2021 06:39 PM (puu6v)

339 China has twice the fleet size we have, none of the experience and far less of the air, but they're working on that.

But China can count on the former United State's military to not be a factor in China's interests.

After all the PLA and former US's military answer to the same commander.

Posted by: Observer at February 09, 2021 06:40 PM (4+UdL)

340 298 torabora,
The scary thing is a true expert is quite aware of how little they know and how uncertain a lot of the respective 'knowledge' in their field actually is. Thus, they hedge, caveat, etc. because knowledge in a lot of cases is more like what is probably true based on the existing evidence.

A phony expert, (most of the people that appear on TV), make things simple for the rubes with no contraindications that their statements made are anything but true.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2021 06:40 PM (pO7gM)

341 Alaska is an open primary state so leftists vote for Murkowski in the primary to keep her in office rather than a true conservative.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 09, 2021 06:41 PM (LBf6o)

342 China has twice the fleet size we have, none of the experience and far less of the air, but they're working on that.

A strategy for the PRC would be basically to run the wheels off our fleet, navally, commercially, in the air, without necessarily ever fomenting a frontal challenge, and see if we fail badly enough at what points along they way that they can take advantage. More predatory than opportunistic.

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2021 06:41 PM (8erNz)

343 WHO whitewash: Investigators BACK Beijing's claim Covid did NOT leak from a Wuhan lab and call for 'no further study into that theory' -- but they WILL probe China's claim virus was imported on frozen meat
WHO scientists sent on a coronavirus fact-finding mission to China have today thrown their weight behind Beijing -- dismissing theories the virus leaked from a lab wile backing theories that the virus was imported on frozen meat.

Peter Embarek, leader of the WHO team, said that 'further research' into the imported meat theory -- which is being pushed by Beijing -- is needed, along with studies looking at early cases of Covid reported outside of China.

At the same time, he dismissed theories that the virus leaked from a lab in Wuhan, saying the possibility is 'extremely unlikely' and does not need to be investigated further -- despite US government officials calling it 'the most credible' theory just a few weeks ago.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2021 06:41 PM (d6he9)

344 I really need a less enraging hobby than politics, like I don't know, petting spiders or something.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 09, 2021 05:54 PM

*sidles over*

How you doin'?

Posted by: The Face-sized Spider in AtC's Attic at February 09, 2021 06:42 PM (F5q1B)

345 341 Alaska is an open primary state so leftists vote for Murkowski in the primary to keep her in office rather than a true conservative.

So basically the potheads and the crowd that thinks their table dances will be shut down vote for her because Oh The Adversary Is So Much Worse.

Biden taking away their oil ducats yet? Oh no, Murkowski would be doing her best Yosemite Sam interpretation...

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2021 06:43 PM (8erNz)

346 344 I really need a less enraging hobby than politics, like I don't know, petting spiders or something.

Fornicating with tree chippers would be a start.

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2021 06:44 PM (8erNz)

347 How much more of this are we supposed to tolerate?
We're surrounded by enemies both foreign and domestic and they're imposing their rule over us without any pretense of a care that we see it for what it is and yet we (myself included) have done nothing but bitch about it online...

Posted by: Daniel J Kunkle at February 09, 2021 07:33 PM (bkqDH)

348 might be the best article i`ve read in regard to,"how in hell did we get to this point?"

thanks forposting,ace...

Posted by: uncouth jay marks at February 09, 2021 10:22 PM (9SGBP)

349 LOL Fucking LOL

I'm sure this country invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and fucked around in Syria and killed an Iranian general for China. I'm this country pushes sodomy all over the world because that's what China wants. I'm sure, we import or let sneak, in half the T(h)urd world because that benefits China.
Oy Vey goyiim it's China China China just like four years ago it was Russia Russia Russia.
Signed your friendly dual loyalty neocons.

Posted by: StealWhatSteal at February 10, 2021 11:14 AM (nLq9e)

350 Contards proving they are just as retarded as the libs eating this bs up like good little judeo christians

Posted by: Definitely not Israel at February 10, 2021 04:02 PM (bf7Oq)

351 Usual cowardly nonsense. No, American elites are total cucks to Jewish Power. Maybe China works with the Jews, but it's the Jews who run Wall Street, media, Hollywood, deep state, and uses them all against White America.

People blame China because they are too brainwashed or ball-less to name the Jew.

But this guy does have the courage: https://www.bitchute.com/video/EAteKtxj0Fai/

Posted by: Andrea Ostrov Letania at February 10, 2021 10:26 PM (VT7Uv)

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