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Shock Poll: A New "Patriot Party" Would Become the Second Largest Political Party in the USA, Dropping the GOP to an Also-Ran Third Place
Is this really a shock, though?
The trouble is, of course, that Democrats would trounce either party. But that would be a short-time problem, as people would naturally realign to support the party in the best position to beat the Democrats. Meaning: bye-bye Severely Conservative Rombley, bye-bye China Mitch, bye-bye Corporate Ken Doll John Thune, and bye-bye sanctimonious schoolmarm and gaseous pansy Ben Sassypants. But yeah, there will be some short-term pain.hypothetical "Patriot Party" led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter -- 23% -- of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding. A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation's dominant party -- even without majority support. Among "very conservative" voters -- who make up a disproportionately large bloc within the Republican primary electorate -- a Trump Patriot Party crushes the GOP 55%-24%.What a surprise on that one, huh? The GOP is chiefly supported by the cvcks and RINOs and corporatist liberal-libertarians. Gee, I never would have guessed that based on how the GOP behaves. I got this from Roger Simon, who speculates that the reason we've gone from "16 or 17" GOPe Senators looking to convict Trump to merely the National Review 5 is because they saw the poll.
[The poll] wasn't really surprising--not to me and probably not to most of you--but it apparently was to a group of seemingly-clueless Republican senators who only a few days ago registered the possibility that they might vote to convict a president of their own party who was not even still in office. The poll must have scared the proverbial bejesus out of them. Anyway it should have. So we won’t forget the original Republican reprobates, they were, according to a Jan. 25, 2021 report here at The Epoch Times: Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska) Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) How quickly things change. After Tuesday’s vote, sixteen were reduced to five in a flash! Only Collins and Murkowski (perpetual outsiders), Toomey (not running for reelection), Sasse (looking for QAnon under every rock) and, of course, Romney remain. Call them The Five (not to be confused with Greg Gutfeld et. al.). We needn't belabor that only a day or so ago newly-ensconced minority leader McConnell was touting the inevitability of a trial he just voted against as unconstitutional. How embarrassing.These "Republicans" are clueless about what the actual party wants because they long ago gave up listening to voters. They only listen to "stakeholders" -- corporations and lobbying groups with business before the government, and contracts to hand out post-electoral politics -- and to the leftwing media, which claims that NeverTrump represents 80% of the GOP, and they also listen to the "Conservative" media, which also claims that NeverTrump represents 80% of the GOP (as it represents 98% of "conservative" media). So yeah, given the sources they're listening to, it's no wonder that they're continually surprised by the genuine political sentiment in the air. Related: a poll says that a clear majority of Republicans, 56%, expect Trump to remain a major political force. The 34% who disagree just happen to, once again, agree with the 60% of Democrats who think Trump will not be a force. Weird how the same people keep on aligning with Democrat Party sentiment. Almost as if... a shared social milleu was a more important influence on political thinking than mere philosophy. Almost as if the Effete Urban Liberal wing of the GOP had more in common with the Effete Urban Liberals of the Democrat Party than with their less effete, less urban, less liberal fellow GOP members. Oh, but once again, I have to plug National Review's latest Web-A-Thon. They oppose you in every single way -- they are offended by your mere existence -- but you should send them your money because 1, they support "politeness," and 2, with billionaire Democrats reducing their donations now that the mission has been accomplished, they're counting on You to pay for the additions to their houses. You filthy serfs and mud-dwellers like politeness, right? Or "honor"? Or America? Or whatever abstract bullshit they're pitching to you this week to distract from the fact that they are your political opponents on nearly every single issue, including, especially, your right to merely speak and read what you like without being punished for it? Give them your fucking money, peons.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 03:49 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 27, 2021 03:50 PM (JUOKG)
Sure, Democrats will own much of the federal government, but that's not really much of a change, now is it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: 496 at January 27, 2021 03:51 PM (U1eOr)
>>> 446 Bill Gates will just hit the kill switch programmed into the Covid vaccine, and there's your population reduction....
Posted by: brak at January 27, 2021 03:44 PM (cG+eD)
Anyone ever read the Silo series of books by Hugh Howey? Hugh is a lefty but selected the Democrats as the ones who ended the world. He claimed it was just a chance selection that it wouldn't have made a difference if it was the Rs. Right, right buddy. At you're core you know your own.
It's a good series by the way. Three books: Wool, Shift and Dust. It looks like there may be a tv series but they say that about every book that's popular.
Posted by: banana Dream at January 27, 2021 03:49 PM (BvX7g)
Posted by: banana Dream at January 27, 2021 03:51 PM (BvX7g)
Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2021 03:52 PM (DzhEB)
Why Trump so "no mas".
Posted by: MarkY at January 27, 2021 03:52 PM (7fxD9)
Proving once again that there are some people who will never learn.
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 03:52 PM (nyFPf)
Posted by: MarkY at January 27, 2021 03:53 PM (7fxD9)
However, there is a lot to be said about how starting a new, rebranded party could eliminate some of the old stereotypes of republicans. The counter argument to this is that the MSM would be targeting the new party as an extremist group from the beginning.
Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (/BlEx)
And with Jo-Jo keeping troops in DC to fend off angry Democratic voters, this could be a thing.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (S7VTO)
Posted by: Dominion Software at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (JrVhn)
Posted by: Blago at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (gkdnV)
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (KnJdm)
So they can leave. Hopefully thrown out on their ass.
Posted by: jsg at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (MDFTh)
Posted by: AJ Duie at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (SC7CY)
It doesn't matter. Massive election fraud was perpetrated right in our faces for the world to see and was ignored.
Does anyone really think even a 3rd party could succeed?
I say secede. I'm done.
Posted by: artisanal ette at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (Zjfcz)
I've mentioned this before and been shut down, but hear me out -- I lived in New England for a while and had a bunch of Bernie Bro friends. Like great guys -- mostly blue collar or office workers, drove pick up trucks, liked to hunt and shoot, drank beer, totally normal dudes.
They just happened to align more with the message of "fuck our corporate overlords" then they did with the message of "fuck government."
Maybe a party of "fuck both government and big corporations who are intricately interlaced with government" could really be a thing.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (jOcSX)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (ZSK0i)
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (JUOKG)
Sure, Democrats will own much of the federal government, but that's not really much of a change, now is it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)
If you can find Senate Candidates that will run as that 3rd party.
If you're only running a Presidential candidate and nothing else, it's too easy to shut the party down right out of the gate.
Posted by: Allie at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (PC3pt)
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I humbly disagree, Ace. They are not clueless as to what the actual party wants. They *are* the actual party. That is why a new party that isn't them would wipe them out within two fair election cycles.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (UZVEt)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (6/LtX)
Oh.... and ..... word of warning to you establishment fucker GOPe types.
We remember how you were "down" with the tea party types.
Try and hijack this and we WILL punch you in the fucking face. DO YOU HEAR ME JEB? MARCO?
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (kHF28)
Posted by: zmdavid at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Blago at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (gkdnV)
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It's about incentives.
Republican politicians have an incentive to actively lie to the base in order to get elected because the financial support structures and establishment organization is pre-set to encourage behavior that ends up being center-left.
A new party won't start out that way, at the very least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 03:56 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2021 03:56 PM (SWbVS)
It doesn't matter. Massive election fraud was perpetrated right in our faces for the world to see and was ignored.
Hands up.. You are under arrest! That is a terrorist philosophy
Posted by: Home land Security at January 27, 2021 03:56 PM (Zmnko)
Posted by: DaveA at January 27, 2021 03:56 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: POPE CHING CHING THE CURRENT at January 27, 2021 03:56 PM (3Jeh3)
It's to represent the interests and advance the causes of a base of voters who are generally in line with the ideology and goals espoused by the party.
The GOP, since at least 2007 has ceased to be a legitimate political party, properly understood.
And is, in word and deed, a useless pile of dog shit.
Advancing the interests of the party above all.
And this poll accurately reflects that fact.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2021 03:56 PM (fGzVz)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (03n3v)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (xDpty)
It's about incentives.
Republican politicians have an incentive to actively lie to the base in order to get elected because the financial support structures and establishment organization is pre-set to encourage behavior that ends up being center-left.
A new party won't start out that way, at the very least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 03:56 PM (LvTSG)
Firing your old mercenaries is a pretty good warning to your new mercenaries about how rebellion won't be tolerated.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (Zm+LZ)
Remember, Trump won, and BIG. He captured not just conservatives, but closet democrats for trump and closet libertarians for Trump and closet rino's for trump.
Trump won twice already.
2nd?
Posted by: artisanal ette at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (Zjfcz)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (yQpMk)
"Short term pain!"
Posted by: DF at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (xKGxx)
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The time to do that was 2006-2016. It's too late now because they demonstrated in 2020 that they'll take what they want regardless. The parties in power are there at the sufferance of the state. Voter input is immaterial. It's theater. All this does is demonstrate how hated the Republican Party is by its base. It doesn't matter, though, and they know it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (UZVEt)
The drawback is fighting through the rules at the state level which are specifically written to maintain the status quo.
It also could give rise to a split within the donks and now we're looking at a parliamentary system or a forced realignment as multiple factions on each side compete to return to the 2-party system.
I believe it's the only way to stop the failure theater, but we could be looking at 20 years in the wilderness. That assumes those that switched would have the stomach to ride it out that long.
Posted by: Cold Rage Dominion, Presidente Grande Elect - F.U.WAR at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (OXSar)
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (NxbO5)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (uRfvC)
Posted by: Matticus Finch at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (mENHL)
I do though like the idea of say running a 3rd party candidate in "hard to remove" contests like say if Murkowski wins her primary, run a conservative 3rd party in the general election and put the Dem in.
They'll learn eventually. Ask Jeff Flake how his career is doing.
Posted by: Blago at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (gkdnV)
Posted by: dantesed at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (VbCZe)
Posted by: It's me donna at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (Zmnko)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: zmdavid
Good point. They ain't the sharpest tools in the shed.
Posted by: MarkY at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (7fxD9)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (yQpMk)
Republicans: Private companies have the right to ruin any white person they hate cause Free Market! We will do nothing to help you! Ronald Reagan!!
Posted by: RealityStation at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (gyAiF)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (6/LtX)
I tend to agree. The same people would use their DC Peerage connections to work their way in to positions of power in the new party, and through the political equivalent of chain migration, we'd quickly find ourselves back in the same position we are now.
I don't really have a good solution.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (UPoLF)
That is MY line in the sand.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: Nckate at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (PGh3U)
If you're only running a Presidential candidate and nothing else, it's too easy to shut the party down right out of the gate.
Posted by: Allie at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (PC3pt)
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I more on the "takeover" side than the 3rd party side, but just speaking from a voter's perspective...
If a new party comes from my current party's most prominent member, like former Republican President Donald Trump heading a Patriot Party, what do I have to lose as a voter in not backing any candidate that Trump holds up? Especially if I feel like the system is rigged against my choices anyway?
The only real reason to stick with Republicans now is because it's a vehicle with some kind of track record of victory at different levels. With the feeling that that track record doesn't matter anymore, then one of my biggest reasons, as a voter, to stick with the GOP is gone. Might as well look elsewhere.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Blago at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (gkdnV)
This has been tried twice in recent years. Still hasn't worked.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (Zm+LZ)
well we're at the tail end of that -- the corporatists have not only gone full progressive democrat, but are acting as the far left's economic enforcement agents. Establishment cucks like national review are plainly aligned with the Democrats now (they did support Biden, after all) but are refusing to admit it only because claiming to be "the conservatives who bash other conservatives" has market value, whereas being just another gonzo partisan leftwinger does not
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (5+1A/)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (ch6++)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at January 27, 2021 03:57 PM (HaL55)
Not to mention, the GOPe/RNC infrastructure will not support an insurgent, MAGA wing of the party. They'd be a third-party candidate, for all intents and purposes.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (KbCG3)
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The real number is around 85%
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (jBRLB)
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Or, alternatively, it might mean we can make an explicit deal with the Rino's on issues most important to us. For the first time "Build the dang wall" would have more meaning after the election than before.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (uRfvC)
Well, so far, these assholes have been sitting on their hands while Stupid Joe and his band of commie insurgents have been running EOs up the ass of America.
Where the hell are they? The only one causing any trouble is Cruz.
LOL, it's pathetic. This country will get Californicated with one party rule if we don't watch out...
Might happen regardless.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (b4a9h)
I voted for Ross Perot knowing he wouldn't win - it was a big 'fvck you' to the Republican Party that did not give one fvck that my job would disappear to Mexico, Canada, or China.
I'll do it again in a heartbeat. Erections have consequences. Stolen erections even more.
Posted by: Pennsylvania Conservative at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (N/gDA)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Eli Cash at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (SScvq)
Rush was wrong!!!
Posted by: JROD at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (0jZnq)
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (b4a9h)
I would prefer something more evocative. "Patriot" sounds like we are refighting the revolution. And it is going to be picked apart by the Left for being "white."
Productive Class Party - which is really what I think the division is about.
Freedom Party - another good descriptor.
Anti-Marxist Scum Party
Inclusive Party - how is that for branding?
Peace, Love, and Justice Party
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (UPoLF)
I keep saying that politics in the US is basically a triangle: progressives seek to maximize equality, conservatives seek to maximize stability, and libertarians seek to maximize personal freedom. People generally fall somewhere along one of the edges of that triangle, balancing between two ideas while discarding (or at least minimizing) the third.
After WWII the right consisted of white-collar conservatives and libertarians, while the left consisted of blue-collar conservatives and progressives. Conservatives were the majority, but despised by the ideological anchors. After 1990 the realignment began, with libertarians aligning more closely with progressives on social issues, and progressives adopting support for free trade as a way to enable their goals. As a result, they felt that they no longer needed the conservative wings of their respective sides.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (jOcSX)
Tulsi.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 27, 2021 03:58 PM (KbCG3)
I actually don't think Tulsi is playing a long con here.
I've been sort of following her career for a while, she seems to be more genuine in her beliefs then the average politician.
Could be wrong of course, because on the flip side, she is a politician, and they do all talk a lotttt of bullshit.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (UPoLF)
Give me a political party that fully embraces Trump's brand of government, and you can even call it the Democratic party.
And I'll vote for it.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (S7VTO)
I would prefer something more evocative. "Patriot" sounds like we are refighting the revolution. And it is going to be picked apart by the Left for being "white."
Peace, Love, and Justice Party
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (LWu6U)
I'm partial to "anti-globalist" myself.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (jOcSX)
Posted by: Pierre at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (kapIh)
Posted by: brak at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (cG+eD)
To John Brennan, who is the conscience of the Communist Party Democrats considers Milton Friedman a domestic terrorist.
That's where we are.
And the GOP needs to fight like that's where we are.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (b4a9h)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (jBRLB)
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Doesn't matter what number support PDJT. What matters is100% of his voters are strongly motivated to reduce the scope of government. We want reform.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (uRfvC)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (LWu6U)
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Call it what it is. I think "American Nationalist Party" has a decent ring to it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (UZVEt)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (p847M)
Productive Class Party - which is really what I think the division is about.
Freedom Party - another good descriptor.
Anti-Marxist Scum Party
Inclusive Party - how is that for branding?
Peace, Love, and Justice Party
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (LWu6U)
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Id vote for the "We'll Leave You The Fuck ALone" party in a HEART beat.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (kHF28)
The 34% who disagree just happen to, once again, agree with the 60% of Democrats who think Trump will not be a force.
Funny thing, the commie cocksuckers and their NT toadies sure don't ACT like they think Trump will not be a force.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (EGyGV)
No need, they'll just confiscate it. Much simpler than asking.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (xlBBa)
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (3Jeh3)
I think the issue is that the ideological fracture is shifting, or becoming more clear.
Once upon a time it was liberty + business friendly vs. libertine + maternalistic. Now it's becoming nationalist vs globalist.
Trump didn't care about race, or class, or pedigree. He wanted to help all Americans. The "elites" don't care about Americans, they only want to help their club.
Right v Left is a lie they use to keep us in line. More and more people are waking up to that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (IUd0M)
I like the concept, but just do not think a third party can work. The GOPe types (voters and donors) will find a home.
IMO, that would be the main point of starting another party so as to weed those things out.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (HaL55)
Her current actions speak of someone who has identified a new lane. Politicians are politicians first and foremost.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (xDpty)
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (MfLE4)
I don't expect a new party to be perfect but walking over the corpse of the Republican party is a low bar to clear.
Posted by: MJ at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (gAMkn)
I think Tulsi a) doesn't despise the working class elements of her party, and b) sees an opportunity to take a leadership role once the hard left turns on itself and starts infighting.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (jOcSX)
So if this new party is to survive and thrive, a few things are going to have to occur: 1. No overseas adventurism. I mean it, no more genuflecting before the military industrial complex. 2. No bending the knee to corporate reprobates, in the guise of the "free market." And C., Leave the racists on the outside. I mean the REAL racists. Of which there are many. And they can go f**k themselves. All of them. Every time, everywhere.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (oQ94s)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (p847M)
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Macron because no one knew who he was, and he wasn't LePen.
Macron's made enemies since.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Saintly Akin at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (b82nJ)
OK, all evidence points to the fact that Ace is right, and these people really can't figure it out.
But... how? I get that they are exceedingly cloistered, and they simply don't interact with anybody who isn't part of their power-clique because that would be gross. And they might catch bourgeousitis from breathing poor people air in little middle-class rooms and shit.
Still, the numbers don't lie and it was four very short years ago that the American people uniformly rejected the established GOP, and its own voters uniformly rejected them perhaps more vehemently than the Democrats did.
In the meantime, every factor that caused that meltdown has been exacerbated.
This leads me to one conclusion... It's not just that they are Effete Urban Liberals. They are also exceedingly stupid people.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (Bvn1K)
Posted by: Pennsylvania
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I never did get a chance to thank you for that. I'm still swimming in intern pussy and cash from that gig.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: red speck at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (gS3OW)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (2BZBZ)
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (3Jeh3)
Posted by: simplemind - uniparty fine, as long as its ours not theirs at January 27, 2021 04:03 PM (Dmdo8)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 03:59 PM (5+1A/)
That's true, but I don't know if we've seen that political realignment with voters. Although maybe we have, it's hard to tell, since polls aren't very trustworthy and it seems like elections aren't either.
Anecdotally, I know a lot of guys like the type I'm describing who still vote D. (and girls, but that's a whole other topic for another time.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:03 PM (UPoLF)
Q: Know how to keep a hard on?
A: Yea, don't f*ck with it!
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 27, 2021 04:03 PM (VoKVv)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)
this is why i've quit voting, pending PDJT's patriot party. why would i vote for people who dispise me and turn their back on me at the first instant they can. the GOP and DIAF.
Posted by: SturmToddler at January 27, 2021 04:03 PM (8D42x)
I hate the name, though.
I would prefer something more evocative. "Patriot" sounds like we are refighting the revolution. And it is going to be picked apart by the Left for being "white."
I REALLY want the Throne Of Skulls Party.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2021 04:03 PM (EGyGV)
Needs to be more like the Middle Class Party but with a catchier version of middle class.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (p847M)
Posted by: trev006 at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (tqbrT)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (xDpty)
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (3Jeh3)
Those who do not support Trump will be slowly but surely defeated. Liz Cheney will be first to go.
We just have to watch for those pretending to be Trump supporters as the imposters pretended to be Tea Party candidates. a few years back.
All need to be thoroughly vetted. Keep an eye on McConnell. If he endorses or supports a candidate, said candidate is to be rejected. He will have no say.
Posted by: Jesus Built My Hot Rod at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (wvn6O)
Needs to be more like the Middle Class Party but with a catchier version of middle class.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (p847M)
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I'm voting for the "Fuck 'Em Til They're Dead Pary".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (SWbVS)
Might happen regardless.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (b4a9h)
We have a one-party rule, I'd be interested in a 2nd party, but it doesn't matter if the fraud issue isn't dealt with.
Posted by: WeBoned! at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (8k7U7)
Posted by: DaveA at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (FhXTo)
This is a disaffected group of millions who have each seen exactly who and what we are up against. The status quo is unacceptable and I think the right candidates will be able to pull the same big tent coalition Trump built.
But, he's the one who needs to make it happen.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (xDpty)
Republican politicians have an incentive to actively lie to the base in order to get elected because the financial support structures and establishment organization is pre-set to encourage behavior that ends up being center-left.
A new party won't start out that way, at the very least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Perot started a political party and then Pat Buchanan took it over.
Or the Tea party that started out being very much of a small government movement in response to Obama's bailouts, look at what Trump did. But these same Tea Party people are likely all in for Trump's agenda.
I'm just not sure a new name really fixes anything except hands control over to the Left where they could permanently destroy the country.
Posted by: Blago at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (gkdnV)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (j9HX3)
Yes, third party who cares what it's called. Let it happen and support it when it does. Otherwise, sit down and shut up.
Posted by: Ziba at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (S1hrL)
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I think Tulsi a) doesn't despise the working class elements of her party, and b) sees an opportunity to take a leadership role once the hard left turns on itself and starts infighting.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (jOcSX)
I do think her cherry is going to pop soon. She's cooing up to the cool guys on the internet right now, but I don't really see her as having anything substantive to offer. For anybody. The hard left ain't going to collapse quickly enough, and she's not going to stop being a lefty. So if this is a gamble, sure, go for it. I just don't think it's gonna work.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (oQ94s)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (LWu6U)
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They're calling black people white now so I don't think we need to bother trying an end around.
Patriot is a good positive word and Trump has a way with those. It lays out the battle in no uncertain terms, plays the Democrat game of "everyone who opposes this must be a _traitor_", and it's also associated in most people's minds with winning. I like it.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (jBRLB)
Posted by: Katfish at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (WQKoE)
Posted by: trump 4 ever at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (er/ld)
Posted by: dantesed at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (88xKn)
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It's our party, Trump is more than welcome to participate and lead.
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (VoKVv)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (Bvn1K)
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To a point. But I think it isn't that they don't know (or haven't figured it out), but that they don't care. Elections don't matter any more. Some of the member of the Inner (Uni)Party will come and go over time to keep up appearances, but they're a politburo now and they all know it. So the reality of how we got here doesn't matter to them. They're in.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (UZVEt)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2021 04:02 PM (Bvn1K)
I actually don't think most "smart people" are all that smart. I know this sounds very lefty of me, but I think most "smart people" got to the positions they have in life not due to merit, but due to (mostly) familial connections.
But that's neither here nor there. I think what we're seeing here is a class of people who have little to no interactions with anyone outside their class, and they look at those people in the same way you or I would look at some lost tribe in a National Geographic magazine. Totally foreign, sort of interesting, but not someone we can really relate to on a person level, or really understand them very well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Jimco Industries at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (buTO7)
Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (/BlEx)
and that's different from now....?
not picking on you, but hell they're already REALLY getting behind the NAZI narrative.
i used to joke about camps, then it became dark humor, now... now i'm not so sure they aren't deadly serious.
Posted by: SturmToddler at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (8D42x)
"We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics"
Posted by: President-elect Biden at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: thesgm at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (8sN5X)
I hate the name, though.
I would prefer something more evocative. "Patriot" sounds like we are refighting the revolution. And it is going to be picked apart by the Left for being "white."
I REALLY want the Throne Of Skulls Party.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2021 04:03 PM (EGyGV)
******
You could call it the "Black Lives Matter" party and they would still call it racist.
Posted by: El Jefe ~Blue Zones~POW*MIA~You Are Not Forgotten~ at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (Ae67h)
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Posted by: RealityStation at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (gyAiF)
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (SWbVS)
/s
Posted by: Mishdog at January 27, 2021 04:07 PM (F/Rk0)
Posted by: Splatter at January 27, 2021 04:07 PM (2UM3o)
Posted by: Count de Monet in exile at his Fortress of Solitude at January 27, 2021 04:07 PM (4I/2K)
Look we know where they'll go with it...
Let's just short-circuit the whole thing and file the paperwork to officially call it the Hatriot Party.
Besides, I *do* hate them and I don't care if they know it. Might as well get off on the right foot with these bastards.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2021 04:07 PM (Bvn1K)
138 "Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition."
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
holy shit is this real dude?
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:07 PM (5+1A/)
Posted by: Romney 2024 at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (uRfvC)
"Liberal democracy" is a system is beyond reform. No one is voting their way out of this, and last November should have made that clear. The only thing that can break this monster is something exogenous to the system, something no one can predict or manufacture. And even then, it might only further cement power in place... for example, Covid-19.
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (nyFPf)
Posted by: wytshus at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (/9QbJ)
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.)
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What the hell is going on in Oklahoma?
Posted by: Furious George at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (9vQJW)
I still think about Lincoln "with malice toward none, and charity toward all." Still trying to get my thoughts to gel.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (C+We0)
Posted by: brak at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (cG+eD)
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (jBRLB)
Nah, we'd need to really work on the name, and probably focus group it and what not. The left is way better then us at this. Calling organizations "Black Lives Matter" and "anti fascist" and such.
If we were to go down this path, we'd need to do something equally as linguistically clever. Not that it would help at all with the media, obviously, but it could help with LIV's.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (p847M)
No. If the republicans allowed someone better than HW, perot would have been irrelevant. That should have been a warning to the gop.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (xDpty)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:04 PM (p847M)
Bourgeoisie?
One thing everyone should trust Trump on is naming shit. Even when his names don't sound great at first, they turn out to have a certain stickiness and power.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (jBRLB)
Gabbard has seen this before. She and her family fought state Supreme Court-imposed gay marriage and forced it onto the ballot. Voters in freaking Hawaii overwhelmingly voted against gay marriage. She and her family, all Democrats--her dad a state senator--were thereafter harrassed constantly and mostly peaceful protesters forced their restaurant to close. She became a Republican for a few years as a result.
She has seen this up close and personal.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (TGWxN)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: 496 at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (U1eOr)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5+1A/)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Over one hundred years old and still one hundred percent correct.
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (nyFPf)
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (MfLE4)
I thought that AoSHQ Style Guide referred to these as "Skank-a-thons."
Posted by: pookysgirl, pulling out a Horde dictionary at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (XKZwp)
Can an energized trumpist party rally enough votes to take majority legislature, Sec State Gov Michigan, or Wisc, or Minn. Penn? A big task.
Or can they just cheat forever, obviously, and the rule of law become a complete farce?
Um, yea, prolly the latter.
Posted by: simplemind at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (pvGHo)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5+1A/)
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That's what she said.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (xGzlI)
the full quote is even better but I got cut off for size
Posted by: RealityStation at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (gyAiF)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (uxJPn)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:10 PM (p847M)
nah I really think we should all take money from our depleted bank accounts (which NR helped deplete) and send it to NR so that they can 'fight for us" and "stop the liberals" with that money.
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:10 PM (5+1A/)
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Posted by: RealityStation at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (gyAiF)
Which was some 60 years before the American Conservative movement came into existence. Likewise we find that neoliberals are not liberal and neoconservatives are not Conservative. Keep in mind that most of our political labels are inconstant over time.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:10 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 27, 2021 04:10 PM (03n3v)
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at January 27, 2021 04:10 PM (a0IVu)
We live in a meme world, guys, we need to acknowledge that. Whether it's instragram, facebook, tiktok, snapchat, reddit, or anywhere else on the internet, memes run our society. (sadly.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:10 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Stacy0311 at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (SqpTW)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (p847M)
Macron's actually been tough on Islam, so that's kind of surprising.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (ZGrMX)
OK, all evidence points to the fact that Ace is right, and these people really can't figure it out.
But... how?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Each of the Senator and rep has a CCP monitor assessing their situation (Think I am exaggerating? they have millions of people working on great wall/propaganda/control in China. Surely they have a few thousand dedicated to US gov.)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (MfLE4)
If the GOP was a conservative party there would have been serious reflection at some point as to how they could have roughly controlled the branches of government for half that time but produced a results not different from if the left controlled everything the whole time.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: nip-WRONG ABOUT TRUMP at January 27, 2021 04:06 PM (yoqcZ)
And who's your alternative for someone to support?
P.S. He really doesn't care if you think he should eff off
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (VP4Cd)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (j9HX3)
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Well that dude understood. Wish I'd have heard of him long ago.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (UZVEt)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5+1A/)
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Vespa?
Endor?
Crocs?
Shleving brackets??
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (kHF28)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5+1A/)
You found the mysterious man in the boat?
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (SWbVS)
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: brak at January 27, 2021 04:01 PM (cG+eD)
AMC's 10-day avg volume: 184 million shares tradedAMC's volume today: 1.2 billion shares traded
Closed at $19.875, up 300%
They are next.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (a0IVu)
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Yeah. Gotta say that I was a fan in the Reagan,bush, bush years. Started to wake up during the Obama years. Not a full break but had reason to put on the breaks.
Man, what a rube I was. Will never forget it. They might as well just poured gasoline on themselves and lit a match.
Posted by: simplemind at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (GLZ0L)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (2JVJo)
That would sound great on the news.
"Today 70 million Pissed Party Voters turned out to the primaries....."
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (C+We0)
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Vespa?
Endor?
Crocs?
Shleving brackets??
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (kHF2
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Wyoming.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (k1L5r)
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That's because Macron has been reading his own polls for many months. Trump has started something even the Euros can contain. France and Italy will be where we see it next.
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (MfLE4)
California has a referendum process. Through it, California has prevented exorbitant property taxes and has also instituted significant local tax reforms; barred illegal aliens from receiving public benefits; barred affirmative action by state and local governments; have recalled one governor; and may recall another.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5+1A/)
what's real?
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at January 27, 2021 04:10 PM (a0IVu)
The Paolo, he told you as so.
Posted by: The Paolo at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (Izzlo)
It's even got alliteration. Anyone here wants to take a shot at something better I'm all ears.
The idea is to create gravitas and acceptability and also to roll off the tongue. And it has to be a word that's at least challenging to corrupt. For example once you put a "k" sound in it they throw three K's in. If you call it the Lit Party, they find a word that rhymes with Lit and that destroys is and sticks.
The name has been thought through by probably the most consequential American branding mind of the last four generations.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (jBRLB)
Just kidding.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (k1L5r)
The problem with the assholes is they forget where they are from . They are all D-DC or R-DC not their districts or states.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (p847M)
Posted by: Ziba at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (S1hrL)
Why didn't anyone tell us this?!?
Posted by: The Lincoln Project at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (C+We0)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (2BZBZ)
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5+1A/)
That's what your mom said!
(sorry, boss, couldn't resist)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (2JVJo)
Seems prophetic.
Posted by: Desultory joe at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (L9P9s)
Posted by: Rich Lowry at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (uWF4x)
I will primary that asshole Cornyn every time. Like I did this year. Unfortunately, he was what we were left with. Not so sure how long that will last.
How about the Fuck You Commie Assholes Party? (FYCA)
Sounds pithy.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (jvt6t)
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 27, 2021 03:55 PM (JUOKG)
At some point this argument ceases to be persuasive. It's like telling a battered woman that not living with an abusive creep is really really scary.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (y7DUB)
However, there is a lot to be said about how starting a new, rebranded
party could eliminate some of the old stereotypes of republicans. The counter argument to this is that the MSM would be targeting the new party as an extremist group from the beginning.
A new party should have a media wing dedicated to reporting the truth to counter PROGDA's lies, manipulations and mischaracterizations. It'd be a full time job, but it needs to be done. If that also involves creating its own network of media outlets, then do so.
PROGDA spews out some commie lie/talking point.
New America Party immediately activates its forces on every media outlet to calmly 'splain why and how what PROGDA said is wrong.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (ZGrMX)
I encourage everyone to hang out on the /r/europe subreddit and other similar ones. If you can read a European language, try to hope in to those specific subs as well.
Europeans were all high and mighty about how racist the US was and how they were so much more accepting of other cultures and religions then we were.
Until they were faced with the reality of the "other cultures and religions" being a German speaking Lutheran or a French Speaking Catholic.
It's kind of a little scary to see how quickly these people have ... radicalized (is that the right word?) from "we welcome all immigrants" to "these people better stop bringing their degenerate shit in to our cities or we're going to kick them all out."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (2BZBZ)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (bqw2Z)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5+1A/)
And they're spectacular.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (Zz0t1)
I would prefer something more evocative. "Patriot" sounds like we are refighting the revolution. And it is going to be picked apart by the Left for being "white."
I REALLY want the Throne Of Skulls Party.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2021 04:03 PM (EGyGV)
Yeah, voters are just plain stupid, and unfortunately the word "patriot" has negative connotations. Sorry, it just does. I think they COULD go with something simple, like the American Party, but even then I'm not sure there wouldn't be some p.r. problems with that.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (oQ94s)
Sounds pithy.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (jvt6t)
It's fun to vote in the FYCA
Posted by: josephistan at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (Izzlo)
I voted for Ross Perot knowing he wouldn't win - it was a big 'fvck you' to the Republican Party that did not give one fvck that my job would disappear to Mexico, Canada, or China.
I'll do it again in a heartbeat. Erections have consequences. Stolen erections even more.
Posted by: Pennsylvania Conservative at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (N/gDA)
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Same here. I still have a Perot campaign button from 1992. Recently found it while cleaning out stuff from my attic. It's now hanging on a cork board above my pandemic telework "workstation" I set up in my basement. I also found a Beavis and Butthead button -- it's hanging next to the button that says "We the People NEED PEROT in '92".
Posted by: Doof at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (mZUr4)
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There will be a lot of pain regardless because a whole hell of a lot of people will never vote GOPe (R) again.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (vg8iE)
"voting" as a thing. I can see the 2 parties coming to an agreement on
what the vote count will be in each state and district no many how many
other parties there are.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (r+sAi)
If you're never going to vote again why should anyone listen to a thing you say? Why say it?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (CQ3Qb)
Seems prophetic.
Posted by: Desultory joe
I'm a Belter.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (0mP7b)
Posted by: Rbastid at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (GTU75)
Posted by: Rich Lowry at January 27, 2021 04:16 PM (uWF4x)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:07 PM (5+1A/)
It's real. Also, this guy was Stonewall Jackson's Chief of Staff for a while during the Late Unpleasantness.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at January 27, 2021 04:16 PM (N3El/)
Altered Carbon is pretty good too.
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2021 04:16 PM (SWbVS)
The idea of personal liberty from the enlightenment, in defiance of the divine right of kings, so cleverly rewritten to be the divine right of the philosopher kings of modernism, is the positive thing we are FOR. Not trying to conserve. It is not the disordered liberty to do evil, it is the ordered liberty of preventing the flawed powers of governance from preventing you from doing good.
So Enlightened Liberty Party. What we want to go back to.
Posted by: Saintly Akin at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (b82nJ)
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (v3pYe)
I haven't called mine yet because I have been in solid meetings ALL FREAKING DAY, but I will call him if they ever end.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel - Texas Morons, Support HB 1359 at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (rWZ8Y)
California has prevented exorbitant property taxes and has also
instituted significant local tax reforms; barred illegal aliens from
receiving public benefits; barred affirmative action by state and local
governments; have recalled one governor; and may recall another.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (KAi1n)
And Meathead has used the referendum process twice to convince LIVs to raise taxes for slush funds, although in truth the Assembly might have spent more if he had not done so.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (xGzlI)
Because only people who vote have anything meaningful to say?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (7Fj9P)
Egad, does that man look like the Grinch or what.
I mean the pre-conversion on the side of the mountain, Grinch.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (oQ94s)
And don't worry, they insert the nano probes up your ass so it is kind of fun [giggles]
Posted by: Captain Ed at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (0mP7b)
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Zo.... yoo tink yoo can jest claim to be Beltah ???
You has to PWOOOVE you zelf.
Right Bozz Man??
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (kHF28)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2021 04:17 PM (Bvn1K)
Since us conservatives "haven't conserved anything"(whatever the F that means to you guys) maybe you can tell us what you guys have "conserved" for the past 30-40-50 years?
If we have failed at anything it has been aligning ourselves with the Republican Party and not having a comprehensive way of vetting candidates.
Third party? Yes, had enough being f'ed over by the GOPe 27 years ago, thank you Lindsey for the Clinton Impeachment fail. We should have left to form a new party then.
Posted by: JROD at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (0jZnq)
"voting" as a thing. I can see the 2 parties coming to an agreement on
what the vote count will be in each state and district no many how many
other parties there are.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2021 04:05 PM (r+sAi)
If you're never going to vote again why should anyone listen to a thing you say? Why say it?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (CQ3Qb)
Voting is merely one fairly flimsy lever.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (Zm+LZ)
The problem with the assholes is they forget where they are from . They are all D-DC or R-DC not their districts or states.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (p847M)
I don't know if that's really the problem. Like I've said about NYC, the place attracts two types of people:
The people who dreamed their whole life of making it big in the "big city" and proving all the doubters wrong;
and
the people who were kind of outcasts in their small town in whereverville, America and wanted to go somewhere where they would "fit in."
Both have nothing but contempt for the people "back home."
And I think DC / politics in general draws a similar personality type.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (zWl33)
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Because motivations matter. If there's some basement dweller who doesn't want to vote because he honestly doesn't care one way or the other about government, fine.
But if someone wants to vote but isn't because the system is rigged and knows that no matter what he votes it's not going to matter, then that's kind of a big deal. In that case the system is robbing him of his rights and that carries more import than someone who simply chooses not to vote for trivial or transient reasons.
That whole "if you don't vote you can't bitch" thing is a non starter.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (C+We0)
Seems prophetic.
Posted by: Desultory joe
I'm a Belter.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (0mP7b)
You need the subtitles on to understand what you people are saying. Probably something something more tats.
Posted by: josephistan at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (p847M)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (Zz0t1)
******
Ha. After openly showing the nation that votes don't matter and that there really, truly is an unelected bureacratic embedded state that makes all decisions for the government and what's "best" for the country - sorry, government, and that the people we were voting for were perfectly fine maintaining that status quo while embracing $7/gallon gas, martial law, and the Great Reset.
Oh no, not some short-term pain.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:19 PM (k1L5r)
Texas legislature meets every other year and the sessions are 140 calendar days. That seems right.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2021 04:19 PM (mht8P)
So does Oregon, but the government here figured out how to by pass the people and get what they want done anyway.
First step: appoint friendly radicals as judges.
Second step: have judges throw out any ballot measures you don't like
Third step: defraud voting and just give the results you want.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2021 04:19 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2021 04:19 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 27, 2021 04:19 PM (E+OcO)
Every attempt to reform the republican party has failed. The rot is too deep.
I think a third party would get 70 percent of the republicans and 30 percent of democrats who lean conservative. I'm just tired of being shit on.
Posted by: jjod at January 27, 2021 04:19 PM (7ACvA)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Monty James at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (Zqz9o)
The Justice Democrats are taking the Dems from the inside. Maybe something like Patriot Republicans (ick, but you get the idea) so that the existing state-level GOP infrastructure can be leveraged?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Doof at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (mZUr4)
I actually have a Pinky and The Brain bumper sticker with the slogan, "Put A Brain In The White House."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (7Fj9P)
Cats as sniper detectors? That's gold!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (xfb67)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (sd8p8)
For those overly worried about courts shooting things down: just remember, you can't arrest an infantry battalion.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (EEVQU)
We need divine intervention.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (r+sAi)
Hell, it would be awesome if some ran as dems! After all, I'm old enough to remember when Trump would have been a democrat by any definition. Take down and take back both parties. Let the Marxists start their own party, because the rank and file corporatists like Pelosi and Schumer will be room temperature, and soon.
Posted by: clutch cargo | with concentrated China Virus stain fighters at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (L8ADy)
Posted by: zombie pontius pilate at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (d6he9)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (oQ94s)
Yeah, we'd have to really work hard on the branding. Wouldn't want to look like a cheesy fox news set or some kind of RAH RAH EAGLES AMERICA!!! type thing either. But it's, of course, doable.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Rich Lowry at January 27, 2021 04:16 PM (uWF4x)
I want to sign up for your newsletter, just so I can ask, "Do I have to let strange men have sex with my wife to be a part of your club?".
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (fh9kT)
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (sd8p
The mother of all capsized canoes.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (xlBBa)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (Zz0t1)
Yeah if there is one thing NYers cant wait to tell you is how awful their home towns are. They go way overboard in hating middle America to prove just how unlike those hating racists haters who are racist, they really are. Oh and in Ohio people eat at Olive Garden? Can you believe that shit!??????
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (p847M)
So for a Ted Cruz or a Rand Paul the American Party nominates them just like the Republican Party does and they are endorsed by both. And then for a Mitt Romney the American Party nominates someone who actually supports America.
The problems with this though, beyond the question of the mechanics of someone being in multiple parties, is the Republicans are much, much worse then I thought, and the Democrats control the voting results, completely, in any area that includes Big Blue Cities.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at January 27, 2021 04:13 PM (2BZBZ)
The "I'm Never Going To Vote Again Party"!
Oh wait, how is that going to work?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (sd8p
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I wonder if we could rent an Iowa class battleship for a MoMe?
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (WEBkv)
On the other hand, running He Hate Me would be fun.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (C+We0)
I call Dibs on being Ship's Doctor.
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (fh9kT)
....I've developed this rash on my ball sack.....
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (Zz0t1)
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The USS New Jersey may be an option.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (C+We0)
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (nyFPf)
Posted by: jjod at January 27, 2021 04:19 PM (7ACvA)
This. Many of us knew it back in 2010. There simply is no excuse left to recognize reality for what it is. Sure, the Donks are just as rotten and corrupt, but they're The Party Of Government and so they're just the public face of the Swamp in any case.
Besides, their days are numbered too. Their internal fractures aren't going to be papered-over all that long once the troublesome OrangeMan isn't there to unify them.
Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (zWl33)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (xfb67)
Posted by: MJ IV at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (gAMkn)
******
I no shit read that as "low class"
And that's exactly the appropriate one.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: John Weaver at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (qlFIA)
The reality is if we went this route there is no question we would lose to the Democrat party.
The math is not there and Trump gets it.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (NpAcC)
Half my comments are rejected.
...
i'm sorry, but had to do it to stop the spam troll. There is a restriction of something like 8 or ten paragraph breaks, and like 800 or 1000 total characters. This was done to prevent the multipage long spam comments.
Be judicious in your quotations of previous posts and reduce your paragraph breaks
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (5+1A/)
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (WEBkv)
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You all have given so much already for your country and nobody has the right to ask anymore. But Im asking.
We need to borrow your boat.
*cues AC/DC "Thunder" Intro.......
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (kHF28)
Nurse Ratched will be in with the Iron momentarily.
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (fh9kT)
Infiltrate the enemy, become the enemy, then reshape them into a form where no one can tell the difference any longer.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (C+We0)
Posted by: JROD at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (0jZnq)
I like the Belter Factions. I mean, they occupy a volume of space a billion billion times greater than Earth.
You are going to have some tribalism.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)
Remember, you can't spell "turd" without both an "R" and a "D".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (mzC78)
Be judicious in your quotations of previous posts and reduce your paragraph breaks
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (5+1A/)
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*crosses fingers for smart quote support*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (fh9kT)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:14 PM (Zz0t1)
His-a mom - she-a worry. He lock-a his self in the turlet and he-a go-a bind-a.
Posted by: Boswell at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (w2LAm)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (fh9kT)
....I've developed this rash on my ball sack.....
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (Zz0t1)
That's not how this works.
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (KnJdm)
Nurse Ratched will be in with the Iron momentarily.
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (fh9kT)
That's hot.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (2DOZq)
Nurse Ratched will be in with the Iron momentarily.
Posted by: garrett
Tosses over tire iron.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (W2Pud)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (fh9kT)
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OK Dr Bricker.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (kHF28)
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (k1L5r)
That seems to be the cause of most of my rejections.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (sd8p8)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (xfb67)
The Hemp Party, for multiple reasons.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (yQpMk)
I. Don't. Care. I can not, will not support that crap.
*And it worked, beautifully.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (fh9kT)
I'd be fine being an "able seaman." I feel like with a name like Harry Parateses, it would only be fitting.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (VP4Cd)
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*crosses fingers for smart quote support*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (LvTSG)
Didn't hogmartin develop a website for that?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Monty James at January 27, 2021 04:20 PM (Zqz9o)
Everyone welcome our new Patriot Party spokesman to the podium, Lin Wood! Lin Wood everybody!
I kid.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:22 PM (Zz0t1)
Ben-Gay helps with that.
Posted by: WeBoned! at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (8k7U7)
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (KnJdm)
We need to borrow your boat.
*cues AC/DC "Thunder" Intro.......
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (kHF2
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Though, how do we score gunnery practice? Will there be a 5" division and a 16" division?
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (WEBkv)
Be judicious in your quotations of previous posts and reduce your paragraph breaks
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (5+1A/)"
Some browsers seem to be fucking up comment submissions. Firefox was totally a no-go for me, anymore - running other stuff now, no problems.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (EEVQU)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: jjod at January 27, 2021 04:19 PM (7ACvA)
They're still saying the same shit to this day. I'm still being spammed by text saying:
"We're begging you! Give now or the democrats will destroy the country!"
Embrace the power of AND you shitheads. Because you're on the same team, you're just too shitty at what you do to run as a dem. Why give you tip money for you to leave after you have your 5 martini lunch with these shitstains?
Posted by: clutch cargo | with concentrated China Virus stain fighters at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (L8ADy)
In 2004 the Republican party controlled Congress and the Presidency. It
was widely expected that there would be a serious reduction in the size
and scope of government. Bush and friends enlarged it.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (LvTSG)
****
But then nobody would ever quote me.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2021 03:54 PM (/BlEx)
They already target the GOPe as an extremist group, any day that has a "y" in it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (mzC78)
If there is to be a war and someone is forced to give up power and control I say make it them. Those who survive can try to make their own country over seas this one is ours and we mean to keep it.
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (6Pqz7)
party nominated the biggest proponent of Shamnesty in the party -
McCain.
In 2012 Republican voters wanted to stop Obamacare. The party nominated the Mitt Romneycare.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (qlFIA)
>>>
Posted by: JROD at January 27, 2021 04:18 PM (0jZnq)
You're not getting the criticism. Having a "conservative" strategy was always a strategy to lose everything eventually. The Modernists would win some lose many, but in so winning some take a slice. Since conservatism seeks to conserve what it has and never positively attack the Modernists position with it's own position of goals, it was merely a matter of time before the slices became the whole stick of salami.
The failure was in NOT recognizing this earlier and reforming the Conservative movement into a positive movement trying to forward an ideology instead of a negative movement merely trying to maintain what they had or at the utmost of their effort go backwards and reverse damage. It should have ideologically been, and branded as a forward not a reverse.
Posted by: Saintly Akin at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (b82nJ)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (2DOZq)
They used Dominion voting machines and saw the EXACT SAME SPIKE that Biden got right after the mysterious stoppage at 1 AM.
The actual votes DID NOT MATTER.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: zombie pontius pilate at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (d6he9)
Posted by: REDACTED at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (zZxh0)
That seems to be the cause of most of my rejections.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (sd8p
Filed under "things I wish I had known in my dating years".
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (xlBBa)
Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (qoNQ/)
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You honestly believe that? Their cheat machine was all warmed up already, they just had to press "go".
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2021 03:56 PM (SWbVS)
I am not pleased with either of these snakes, but at least Sullivan is better than the alternative we were offered. I'm thinking there is about to be a sea change in how Alaska elects its government. The rumblings are becoming loud and clear.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (okGHj)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 27, 2021 04:15 PM (CQ3Qb)
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Seriously? Please don't peddle that shit around here.
Look up "the definition of insanity". Something about doing something repeatedly and expecting a different result.
Vote Fraud has been fully ratified. Many (most???) around here aren't going to take the Bullwinkle approach when it comes to the voting charade -- no more "This time for SURE!"
Posted by: Doof at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (2DOZq)
lolgf
Voted.
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: Max Power at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (Nult5)
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated
Your terms are acceptable. Step carefully upon entering Texas.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (0mP7b)
I would agree with all but the name. I dislike Patriot's party as well as Conservative party, Liberal party, etc.
In essence, the whole rationale for a political party is both to respect individual rights and to provide the necessary support for each individual and family to flourish and thrive in a material and spiritual sense.
I dislike Rousseau on both personal and theoretical grounds but his formula to measure regime success is ideal--it is where individuals and families in a country thrive based on material improvement and becoming more numerous (through internal growth--not immigration btw).
Thus, a good party name will have both dialectical AND rhetorical support for what it should do--reflect the average citizen's voice and propose policies that help the average citizen in today's politics.
Posted by: whig at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (pO7gM)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:25 PM (2DOZq)
That is cute.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (xDpty)
And then use the law enforcement structure to attack their opponent political party. Not verbally on their opinions, but physically, like tossing them in jail and ruining years of their lives being tossed into "the legal process".
This is EXACTLY what is going on, right now.
It is going to get much, much worse, and soon.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (KAi1n)
I don't really disagree with a lot of what she says. Like I think her plans to fix things are naive, but her over identification of problems isn't off.
Same with, say, pre-2012, Bernie. I was like "yeah, you're right, wall street and DC both are very corrupt and the middle class is being screwed, I just think your plans to fix it are idiotic." but then he kind of lost me when he went full libtard. Never go full libtard.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (fh9kT)
We're at tyranny v freedom. That's the only one that matters. Anything else is an illusion.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (C+We0)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (KZzsI)
The actual votes DID NOT MATTER.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (Zz0t1)
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Romney, Collins, Murkowski and Sasse all tell us it wouldn't have mattered, anyway.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (WEBkv)
https://tinyurl.com/y2lok62p
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (uRfvC)
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (EEVQU)
Firefox is a terrible browser, period. When we were doing our software we just gave up on that crap. It's a mess. That's why if you use it here, you either get no paragraph breaks, or 32. Good thing they're all assholes. Use Brave, Dissenter, or Opera. Dissenter runs on iOS and Android I'm pretty sure.
Posted by: clutch cargo | with concentrated China Virus stain fighters at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (L8ADy)
Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (xPl2J)
****
That's always such a bizarre thing to point out.
"LOOK! WE DIDN'T THINK THEY COULD DO IT!"
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (45fpk)
I'd prefer cameras and microphones be in every nook, cranny and corner there. I want those vermin on 24/7 surveillance, even in the elevators and restrooms. I want each and every word they utter to be known and every person they come into contact with known as well.
Just as they do to us. Broadcast this, assholes! (grabs crochetal area).
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (HaL55)
If conservatives had voted in GA we wouldn't have a 50/50 Senate.
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Dude. 11 MILLION people voted.
In a state with 14 million.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (kHF28)
We're already at the bottom of the barrel. Biden dropped the big one, so let them have a few more years until the plebes have had enough.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (qoNQ/)
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (nyFPf)
I would agree with all but the name. I dislike Patriot's party as well as Conservative party, Liberal party, etc.
Didn't he finish 2nd in American Idol?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (0+aLq)
The Philadelphia Inquirer
@PhillyInquirer
Is it wrong to compare Trump to Hitler? No. | Opinion
https://tinyurl.com/y2dusole
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (NpAcC)
I keep saying this, the only thing keeping the Democrat Party together is the GOP, destroy one you destroy them both. I think once the Democrat Party is gone the left is too far apart to coalesce around a central party again. I also think the biggest problem in destroying them is people are used to them being around, people has only ever known the (D) and (R) Parties.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (qH6FZ)
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (CVpUt)
The country is quickly headed to a place where it is run by the UniParty + parasites (who get to keep their balls only as long as the behave). As for us conservative rabbits, they will never let us go - we are needed for punishment and plundering.
Posted by: Never Bidenist at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (720Le)
This is EXACTLY what is going on, right now.
***
I'm just glad there's no historical precedent for this sort of thing prior to the really bad shit happening after the communists take over.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: JROD at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (0jZnq)
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (jkztu)
I mean they literally never stopped saying they had "patriotism". I had the thing on for a total of 45 seconds and I think I heard it three times.
It was sickening.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (jBRLB)
I feel bad for the people who still think the electoral process is valid and useful. I know the awful, crushing misery I felt when I finally understood for certain that it was ruined forever and voting no longer mattered. I would spare them that moment if I could.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (xDpty)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2021 04:21 PM (r+sAi)
We'll see what that number is after two years of daily "Why bother voting, elections are rigged!" comments.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
"you guarantee me free speech / reigning in big tech, and protecting my 2A rights, I'm willing to compromise on carrying forward millions of dollars of losses on peoples taxes." (or whatever).
The problem is, pretty much no one in DC is ever being straight with us about anything, and they're just there to get rich and famous and live the high life by leeching off the rest of us, and are sociopathic enough that they have no problem lying to peoples faces and fucking people over.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (UPoLF)
In a state with 14 million.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (kHF2
11 million ballots were turned in. I'm thinking that a lot fewer than 11 million people filled them out.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (xfb67)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (2BZBZ)
Posted by: Saintly Akin at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (b82nJ)
It's just a name. The Conservative analog in Australia is the Liberal-Nationalists(which is a more historically sensible description). The American Conservative movement was always a liberal-reactionary movement. Virtually all political parties are some sort of liberal-reactionary mix though.
At no point in its history was the American Conservative movement about conserving the status quo.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:31 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (WEBkv)
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PRACTICE???
We are gonna go LIVE FIRE.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:31 PM (kHF28)
From your lips to Gods ear tcn.
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2021 04:31 PM (SWbVS)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (Zz0t1)
This.
Most of the people saying people were boycotting the vote were dems. That whole bit was just a cover to explain their steal.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:31 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:31 PM (0+aLq)
https://tinyurl.com/y2dusole
Not looking at that rag, but I guarantee the author is Will Bunch.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:31 PM (qoNQ/)
Everyone loves old Abe....
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (HrMC1)
The 'How's the Water?' and the ' Water's Deep' Divisions.
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (fh9kT)
We won enough elections in 2016 to get our preferred guy in the White House, along with majorities in the House and Senate. It got us a House loss in 2018 thanks to our own party throwing 40 seats, and a lost Senate and Oval Office in 2020 due to voter fraud that our own party did not care to stop.
Do you really get such a thrill out of "winning elections" that you are satisfied with this ? I don't. Fuck the GOP.
Posted by: Pierre at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (kapIh)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (qoNQ/)
California has had a referendum process for many, many decades. And look at how California has matured. One could be forgiven for thinking that it makes no difference in the larger picture.
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (nyFPf)
Posted by: El Supremo at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (2BZBZ)
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (NpAcC)
Everyone loves old Abe....
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (HrMC1)
Wasn't he born in a log cabin?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (xGzlI)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (0+aLq)
Maybe true. However, with cheating at the electorate, an dishonest courts unwilling to provide meaningful relief, effectively blocking all forms of political relief, without outright surrender to them and their ideology, some form of confrontation is unavoidable and if you think the left won't use violence to get their way when that day comes, take a good hard look at DC.
Posted by: Saintly Akin at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (b82nJ)
Together they would trounce the Democrats in every election.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (HrMC1)
Posted by: JROD at January 27, 2021 04:24 PM (0jZn
Of course we've never had a pure Conservative party but it was a lot more conservative than it has been in last 10 years. Either way a third party is going to have the same internal divisions. That's one of the Right's political negatives but also it's best personal virtue. Individualism.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (KZzsI)
Eh, I'm fine with them. As long as they don't follow the libertarian => alt light => alt right => nazi progression that so many seem to.
As long as we can agree on no Hitler memes, and you're in. Big tent, if you will.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (UPoLF)
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Dude. 11 MILLION people voted.
In a state with 14 million.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (kHF2
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With 35% of the state's population black, and 20% of the state poor.
Yeah, pull the other one.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2021 03:52 PM (DzhEB)
To us that live here too.
one is 80+ the other turned in to a red headed c sucker
Posted by: Busted can of biscuits at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (2cfUo)
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (CVpUt)
It's like buying a new car instead of the trying to fix the old one. It is easier to repair and maintain a new car even though it will eventually become a piece of shit like the last junker. And again, we just tried to fix the GOP twice in recent years. Didn't work.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: bang-a-gong at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (4Lx+G)
Just like they had to steal the presidency. It was all or nothing. They are at the point where they either get their way, or go to prison.
They were like the bankrobber who just killed the guard and has to shoot his way out since either way it is a death sentence.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: WeBoned! at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (8k7U7)
Why should these people turn out when the GA Rep. party turned its back on their champion Trump, refused to rectify the voting fraud, and then both Loeffler and Perdue were too weak to even fight for their positions because they reflect the corporatist surrender caucus in the Senate. McConnell style triangulation is dead as a political approach.
McConnell shooting down the $2000 dollars for individuals while shipping money overseas and to his cronies had more to do with the decline in turnout above anything.
Take Ace's advice, drop reading the hot takes by 'conservative' media reading as most of them are as ignorant and leftist as the rest of the media.
Posted by: whig at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (pO7gM)
Yeah, we'll lose to the Democrat Party. So what? We have been already as Uniparty action has converged to deny conservative/Middle America for decades? So this would be a bit of a Parliamentary maneuver to intercede until the GOPe is destroyed. Make the duopoly parties at least try to gather New Party support once in a while.
But it's insane to repeat the same political operation that has been sabotaged multiple times already as popular conservative positions are coopted by the GOP and then immediately buried in order to kill small government interlopers. Pretty much literally insane at this point, and every 29-yr old ought to recognize that.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (HhXSr)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (0mP7b)
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:32 PM (HrMC1)
If you don't count the people taking down his statues and taking his name off elementary schools.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (45fpk)
There will be a complete media blackout and no debate invite.
Posted by: Just Saying at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (iXEZB)
*******
That's no longer an allowed outcome.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (xPl2J)
Seems to be a non sequiter. (sp)
I don't think she's very good at this job. Someone asked her about China being involved in our electrical grid and she gave some lame response too such as "I'll get back to you"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (VP4Cd)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (xfb67)
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (HrMC1)
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (NpAcC)
We need to learn from the Tea Party fuckfest
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (0+aLq)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 27, 2021 04:35 PM (7Fj9P)
Together they would trounce the Democrats in every election.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (HrMC1)
They just spent four years having a chat.
It didn't go well.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 27, 2021 04:35 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (HrMC1)
The Republican party replaced the Whigs. A new party wouldn't a third party, it would be one of the two parties in a two-party system(though short-lived at that point).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:35 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 04:35 PM (xDpty)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (ifmtJ)
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Arguably, we did that through the electing President Trump.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: WeBoned! at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (8k7U7)
Have you tried wearing 4 masks and face shield?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (UPoLF)
AND rhetorical support for what it should do--reflect the average
citizen's voice and propose policies that help the average citizen in
today's politics.
Posted by: whig at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (pO7gM)
Americans First Party. or Americans' First Party.
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (KnJdm)
Gibs-me-dats for everyone except the one group that is the backbone of the late, moribund Republican Party.
That one group.
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (nyFPf)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:33 PM (2DOZq)
The only conservatives were Trump and maybe Cruz, but only AFTER he got his butt puckered almost losing to Beto Fucking O'Rourke.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:27 PM (Zz0t1)
This.
Most of the people saying people were boycotting the vote were dems. That whole bit was just a cover to explain their steal.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:31 PM (LWu6U)
So those advocating for boycotting voting here are really going to vote?
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (2DOZq)
I did not set the rules of engagement they did. The only question is where. I would prefer to keep Texas safe from harm by fighting this war outside Texas.
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (6Pqz7)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 27, 2021 04:35 PM (xDpty)
***
The ROE will be much more accommodating.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (k1L5r)
She's not, but she doesn't have to be because the press will be the administration's spokespersons.
Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (0+aLq)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (xGzlI)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (VP4Cd)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (r1z5A)
Have you tried wearing 4 masks and face shield?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (UPoLF)
I'm just going to start walking into establishments with my welding mask on.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (Zz0t1)
And when Prop 13 passed, the entire country, and CA, were 87% less dumbed-down, ignorant, and alien than they are today - which only emphasizes how toxic and inexorable are the dynamics of guvamint. The voters had to seize the tax code and change it, even back then (CA was just past the Reagan era and still had years of non-stupid governance - nominally, anyway - to go).
* both wrongly vitiated by lawless courts, faithless constitutional officers - an early taste of what is now a a likely fatal national disease
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (OTzUX)
Getting very tired of first this or that
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: rickb223
Nope. USS Texas. It's old and needs repairs. Like most of us.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (qoNQ/)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (0+aLq)
The problems we had in the WoT were because we were fighting very, very limited wars. With the RoE and perspective of say the US military as of WWII both conflicts would have been over within a year.
If Xiden chooses this route here there will also be no restrictions on what the paramilitary/military forces of the left do.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (UPoLF)
I thought I was doing something wrong, thanks.
Posted by: WeBoned! at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (8k7U7)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (H5knJ)
Gabbard has seen this before. She and her family fought state Supreme Court-imposed gay marriage and forced it onto the ballot. Voters in freaking Hawaii overwhelmingly voted against gay marriage. She and her family, all Democrats--her dad a state senator--were thereafter harrassed constantly and mostly peaceful protesters forced their restaurant to close. She became a Republican for a few years as a result.
She has seen this up close and personal.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 27, 2021 04:08 PM (TGWxN)
I learned more about Tulsi in one grey box, than in years of billion-dollar funded national news broadcasting reports.
I continue to think about this, and it makes a whole lot of sense why Tulsi is the way she is. She is a natural old-style liberal, not an antifa goon squad tool like AOC or an old grifting Socialist like Bernie.
I agree little with Tulsi's politics, but I do welcome her as an American who still believes in the Constitution.
I cannot say that for my WA Senators, Guvnor, or many US Reps.
They are mostly sellout CCP-loving trash.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (sy5kK)
1. All tax funds stay localized. No federal subsidies for anything. Not just state level, but county and city level as well. Let all taxes stay local.
2. No political fundraising outside your district. Period.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Simon at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (8GXjL)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (0+aLq)
None for me. I actually had someone question me about not having one the other day and I responded with a snarl lifted from this very comment section: "This will be your only warning". Worked quite well actually and I'd like to thank whomever posted it.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (xlBBa)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (yQpMk)
It's the opposite-- Trump would continue to PULL Democrats. He'd get the bulk of Republicans--and he'd get the people who usually don't vote---just like he did in his last 2 elections
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (HrMC1)
People who actually 'dislike fascists' are for something that is incompatible with Fascism. People who say they 'dislike fascists' but keep what they are "for" that is incompatible with fascism out of the conversation, don't actually dislike fascists, they want to be the fascists.
Posted by: Saintly Akin at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (b82nJ)
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (HrMC1)
Before Trump, neither could never-elected loudmouth businessmen from New York who grabbed women by the puh.
I'm simply not willing to hitch my wagon to the R label anymore. Corrupt thieving bastards. And that's the good ones.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (jBRLB)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (UPoLF)
I'm just going to start walking into establishments with my welding mask on.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (Zz0t1)
This is an invitation to face colanders.
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (KnJdm)
****
3rd party or whatever needs to happen to oust the incumbent.
State level will be a bit more thoughtful except for anyone like Burr and Tillis. That's same as federal.
County and city are the only ones that matter now, and those might not for long unless we make sure we all get purple thumbs and only day-of voting.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: Hands at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (ifmtJ)
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Arguably, we did that through the electing President Trump.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (WEBkv)
Yes, but now attempts to form a Patriot Party are getting hijacked by leeches and frauds. Just like with the Tea Party.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (qoNQ/)
Politico reported the GOP smashed projections in a few key Liberal "strongholds" - Democrats are PANICKING!
Help us SWEEP them all (3X for 1hr) gopalert.co/3x
Yeah, no. I'll bet they're panicking. Somebody just said they're out of Tobasco for the oysters.
Posted by: clutch cargo | with concentrated China Virus stain fighters at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (L8ADy)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (qoNQ/)
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From what I understand, it's a minor miracle the USS Texas is still afloat.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (WEBkv)
but only AFTER he got his butt puckered almost losing to Beto Fucking
O'Rourke.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (Zz0t1)
Oh, no. Cruz came out of nowhere to win his primary by being the grassroots conservative against the establishment Lieutenant Governor whose wife was already house hunting in DC,
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (xGzlI)
Out of the night that covers me
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance,
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
p1
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (lmikk)
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
-William E Henley
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks
I'll vote Patriot Party, and let the chips fall where they may...at this point the beatings are a matter of degree.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (r1z5A)
That it's even a question, of course ..... is another sign of how bad things are.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2021 04:30 PM (KZzsI)
*fist bump*
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (jBRLB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (VP4Cd)
I'd bet support would be North of 40%.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (WEBkv)
She may not actually be afloat. The plan to move her involves giant inflatable pontoons.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (xGzlI)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 27, 2021 04:36 PM (UPoLF)
I'm just going to start walking into establishments with my welding mask on.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:37 PM (Zz0t1)
This is an invitation to face colanders.
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (KnJdm)
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Want to get rid of masks???
We need to misbehave while wearing them. Sorry facial recognition software.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (kHF28)
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (CVpUt)
***************
This is true. Everything else is just a pipe dream.
I look at Texas and I thank God we have people that are willing to fight and take on the Biden administration. You can't do this we some new party because there are too many positions to fill in the state legislature. You split this and you have the whole state controlled by Democrats.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: blake
I cannot understand how they get the funding.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:41 PM (qoNQ/)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 27, 2021 04:41 PM (2JVJo)
One way or another, their voice will not be heard in an election. Some day you'll wake up.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2021 04:41 PM (KZzsI)
Government Covid diktats destroyed one of the best economies for EVERYONE that I have ever personally experienced and that was due to DJT and his econ team. NOT the Repukes in the House and Senate or the Dems.
Posted by: whig at January 27, 2021 04:41 PM (pO7gM)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:41 PM (0+aLq)
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:41 PM (nyFPf)
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (CVpUt)
***************
This is true. Everything else is just a pipe dream.
I look at Texas and I thank God we have people that are willing to fight and take on the Biden administration. You can't do this we some new party because there are too many positions to fill in the state legislature. You split this and you have the whole state controlled by Democrats.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (NpAcC)"
I wonder how long people are going to beat around the bush pretending that this is a political problem.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (EEVQU)
Posted by: nip-WRONG ABOUT TRUMP at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (yoqcZ)
Really? Then you're a troll and don't belong here.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (VP4Cd)
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Yeah, Tulsi is appealing because she said the right combination of words once or twice, but she's hard left. Bernie supporter hard left.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:34 PM (HrMC1)
Wow, that sounds.... familiar!
Posted by: Whigs at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (yQpMk)
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Wait WUT? What heathen puts tobasco on oysters ??
HORSERADISH is the civilized way to eat mollusks on the half shell.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (kHF28)
https://wonder.cdc.gov/VAERS.html
How do you navigate the search page to find out if there have been any deaths due to the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine? it's... confusing at best.
Posted by: shibumi at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (ZCiJZ)
Posted by: CppThis at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (zcf1k)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (ifmtJ)
Soon enough, the media will announce the patriot party "leader" who we've never heard of, but is the reason for the astroturfed movement. Hundreds will suddenly appear supporting him/her/it and we'll all wander off in disgust.
Posted by: clutch cargo | with concentrated China Virus stain fighters at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (L8ADy)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:41 PM (0+aLq)
Metallica?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (lmikk)
And I'll continue to opine regardless of what BINO thinks.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (C+We0)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (ifmtJ)
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And that, right there, is the epitaph for the US.
I just don't think we're voting our way out of this mess.
Maybe, just maybe, I'll be convinced to vote again, if the questionable states make real election reforms. But, I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:38 PM (KnJdm)
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Want to get rid of masks???
We need to misbehave while wearing them. Sorry facial recognition software.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (kHF2
I will stand outside restaurants holding the door open for leaving patrons and recite, "Walk away!"
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (d6he9)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks
I'll vote Patriot Party, and let the chips fall where they may...at this point the beatings are a matter of degree.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (r1z5A)
My point was the claim that the low vote turn out was not real but at the same time advocating not voting .
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (2DOZq)
It'll be futile, but I will vote for every primary challenger of every person on the ballot. After PA's "legal" fraud, I will never vote for another incumbent. When big races come around, I'll stay home, unless DJT Jr runs for Senate.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (qoNQ/)
Posted by: shibumi at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (ZCiJZ)
***
I read there were 180 as of last Friday or so. I'm sure it's 250 or so by now.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (0+aLq)
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: shibumi at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (ZCiJZ)
Somebody posted a PDF from the page(s) that got pulled down.
Posted by: clutch cargo | with concentrated China Virus stain fighters at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (L8ADy)
Is the Mary Celeste available?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
I'm good with anything but a Donner expedition reenactment.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (r1z5A)
When things first started going sideways - about 15 minutes after he was sworn in - I used to bitch about why Trump was playing everything so safe. As long as he had 34 Senators in his pocket, he was safe.
I think we may now know the answer. I theorized there might exist 60 willing to convict. Maybe Trump knew there were more.
Posted by: Pierre at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (kapIh)
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (WEBkv)
She may not actually be afloat. The plan to move her involves giant inflatable pontoons.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon
Her keel was laid in 1911.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (0mP7b)
I keep saying this, the only thing keeping the Democrat Party together is the GOP, destroy one you destroy them both. I think once the Democrat Party is gone the left is too far apart to coalesce around a central party again. I also think the biggest problem in destroying them is people are used to them being around, people has only ever known the (D) and (R) Parties.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 27, 2021 04:29 PM (qH6FZ)
I agree and if Trump's Landslide had been allowed to stand, he would effectively had killed BOTH parties....
Which is WHY they didn't allow his Landslide to stand.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (HrMC1)
May your chains rest lightly upon you.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (yQpMk)
Trump's appeal was partly personal, for those who cared about political integrity (clearly meaning what you say, and mostly really trying to do it when you get power), but his *issues* were the real basis of his power.
The third party will have to focus on those issues, which in many cases still command super-majority support in the electorate.
A new, "Trumpian" party doesn't just grab a large % of GOP voters in many states, it grabs a decent % of Dems, and it mobilizes a good % of discouraged/infrequent voters. That's his "coalition", with which he probably won an epic re-election, though we'll never know now.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (r1z5A)
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Hey, what about the Cannibal Bob demographic?
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (xfb67)
We need to misbehave while wearing them. Sorry facial recognition software.
******
Ha. Yeah, sort of like the best way to get help at the sporting goods section is to walk behind the counter. You'll have three employees there in 10 seconds.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (k1L5r)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
I'm good with anything but a Donner expedition reenactment.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp"
How about a three hour tour?
Posted by: Gilligan at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (+y8uL)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM (0+aLq)
Mercury?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (0+aLq)
Posted by: mrp at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: shibumi at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (ZCiJZ)
That stuff is gonna be covered up more than the JFK files.
Posted by: WeBoned! at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (8k7U7)
Posted by: Ladyl at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (2DOZq)
Say you lived in Syria. How many beatings would you take before you realized that voting against the regime was not the smart way to resist?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (Zm+LZ)
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The problem being the commie right that hides their betrayal.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (k1L5r)
I look at Texas and I thank God we have people that are willing to
fight and take on the Biden administration. You can't do this we some
new party because there are too many positions to fill in the state
legislature. You split this and you have the whole state controlled by
Democrats.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (NpAcC)
Although he's a carpetbagger from Florida, the state convention elected Allen West Chairman over the establishment incumbent Chairman. The Texas Republican Party is solid.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (xGzlI)
Similarly, received a call from City Hall asking if I would be on the roster for the spring ballot.
We reside in a Dominion system state.
Replied that I will no longer be taxed to now actively be a part of disenfranchising both myself and others.
Posted by: fringe at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (FPur3)
Posted by: Guzalot at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (Rz36l)
Look up "the definition of insanity". Something about doing something repeatedly and expecting a different result.
Vote Fraud has been fully ratified. Many (most???) around here aren't going to take the Bullwinkle approach when it comes to the voting charade -- no more "This time for SURE!"
Posted by: Doof at January 27, 2021 04:28 PM (mZUr4)
*looking for the Thumbs Up emoji around here somewhere*
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:39 PM (WEBkv)
She may not actually be afloat. The plan to move her involves giant inflatable pontoons.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon
Her keel was laid in 1911.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (0mP7b)
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I think she still floats, but, the frames that hold things together are shot, if I understand correctly.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (WEBkv)
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A lot of us are there. Myself included. Unless and until real anti-fraud mechanisms are installed and voting integrity is restored, there is no reason to vote really. They take what they want. Earned or not. You can't fight that. Prison is needed for those that engage in fraud. Full proof voter integrity is needed.
Yet, then again, 30-40 million new illegal "Americans" will make it all moot anyway. I got nuttin'.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (O+I8R)
Wait, maybe it DOES explain Japan.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (lmikk)
the sporting goods section is to walk behind the counter. You'll have
three employees there in 10 seconds.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (k1L5r)
Is that wrong?
Posted by: 4 at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (C+We0)
Posted by: DaveA at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel - Texas Morons, Support HB 1359 at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (rWZ8Y)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (0+aLq)
Posted by: nip-WRONG ABOUT TRUMP at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (yoqcZ)
Really? Then you're a troll and don't belong here.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (VP4Cd)
Shh, Fen - that's no way to speak to Allahpundit.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (2JVJo)
But, I think the name "Patriot Party" is flawed from a campaign strategy standpoint. It's easily refuted by the other side. "But we're patriots too!" "How dare you question my patriotism?" That sort of thing.
I like the moniker "America First" party better. Harder to dispute when you're for open borders and unfair trade with China and support globalist "Accords" and support Iran.
Posted by: sherlockzz at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (oG/ns)
What the hell does that have to do with suddenly deciding Trump is the worst person ever and his family should suffer?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (sy5kK)
- -
Come to think of it, I think that's the last time I was laid too.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (C+We0)
Posted by: mrp at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: f2000 at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (dbhCI)
Posted by: Guzalot at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (Rz36l)
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Fuck that. WE WERE HERE FIRST.
Expel them to the Aleutians or some shitty place.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (kHF28)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (OTzUX)
I was about to make a late entry to this effect, too. The situation is dynamic; those supporting the GOP or the Dems might well jump to the Patriot Party, given the chance. Especially after the idiotic policies of Biden & Co. crash the economy, which they will do, sooner or later.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (YqDXo)
See Nov.3rd 2020. What's your point?
Posted by: Paladin at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (KX5Wh)
I guess I'm supposed to take that cause you are all respected.
Is your position Dems are not going to cheat next time?
Fucking dumb. Maybe pray on it.
Posted by: nip-WRONG ABOUT TRUMP at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (yoqcZ)
You blame Trump for what exactly? Not being God?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (Zm+LZ)
Unfrozen Caveman Pixy doesn't know about fancy complicated things like "links" and "web pages".
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (jBRLB)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (0+aLq)
I hate sand.
Posted by: Anakin Skywalker, pompatus of Love at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: CppThis at January 27, 2021 04:42 PM (zcf1k)
Why I said a bit upthread that this "party" can cut both ways. There's a lot of normies out there that are fed up with what's going on, but are still democrats. Just their fantasized versions of what that means. These "patriots" can run as a D just as easily as an R. I'm old enough to remember when a democrat could still be pro-America.
Let the marxists fall off and form their own party.
Posted by: clutch cargo | with concentrated China Virus stain fighters at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (L8ADy)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (r1z5A)
Expel them to the Aleutians or some shitty place.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (kHF2
Snake Island, off Brazil.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 27, 2021 04:48 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (0+aLq)
You just like mouthing stuff with the texture of oysters.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 27, 2021 04:48 PM (xfb67)
Posted by: f2000 at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (dbhCI)
The federal races aren't really important at this point. So they're a good starting point.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:48 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Ladyl at January 27, 2021 04:48 PM (TdMsT)
Which is WHY they didn't allow his Landslide to stand.
Jesus Joe - you're effing RIGHT as rain!
how did I not see this before!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 27, 2021 04:48 PM (j9HX3)
I kid.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 27, 2021 04:26 PM (CQ3Qb)
Hows the law degree coming? as well as the training on voting machines?
Posted by: Inogame at January 27, 2021 04:48 PM (WmqSs)
I will answer you one more time and that's it. You said you would laugh if Trump falls or be happy (or words to that effect) if Don Jr. is cuffed. With those statements You either have a malignant mind or are a troll, which has nothing to do with saying you aren't going to vote.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2021 04:49 PM (VP4Cd)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:49 PM (fh9kT)
Posted by: Guzalot at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (Rz36l)
That's my preference but it's the least likely to happen.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:49 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 27, 2021 04:48 PM (xfb67)
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Really?
Posted by: Jerry Nadler at January 27, 2021 04:49 PM (WEBkv)
One has to specify locale - situations vary quite a bit from state to state and incumbent to incumbent. But the inertia of a de facto 2-party system actually makes disruptive change (like Trump seizing the prez nomination, as a true outsider) makes "taking over the GOP" too dicey and too slow to matter.
Taking over the party may only be possible via a disruptive scenario involving, if only for a cycle or two, a 3rd party.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2021 04:49 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at January 27, 2021 04:47 PM (r1z5A)
Some rat is probably right here.
Get out the Morton's with the girl in a raincoat!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2021 04:49 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel - Texas Morons, Support HB 1359 at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (rWZ8Y)
Helmet head?
Wait......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at January 27, 2021 04:49 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at January 27, 2021 04:49 PM (2BZBZ)
Is your position Dems are not going to cheat next time?
Fucking dumb. Maybe pray on it.
Posted by: nip-WRONG ABOUT TRUMP at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (yoqcZ)
Yes, yes she is, btw mocking her beliefs isn't a good look.
Posted by: WeBoned! at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (8k7U7)
My guess is as long as they can get something from the local market, even if its half spoiled and rationed - cook it under a roof, even if the roof leaks and the blackouts are manageable - and they can still watch sportsball or idiot's reality tv for a bit before going to bed and doing it all again tomorrow after their mandated shift.
Posted by: Pierre at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (kapIh)
Posted by: Grail Knight at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (75Blq)
Why have a party at all? Sanders seems to do just fine as an I. Wouldn't a grassroots organization that runs and promotes Independent candidates do the job as well, without the interaction with the IRS and all that other garbage that being a "real" political party requires?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (C+We0)
These two's essays always start off with the 'chip on the shoulder' position...in Ponnuru's case I believe it's the immigrant's insecurity plea, he's got to show he's smarter, an intellectual, otherwise he thinks he's someone you'd look down on. So, to hike his status, he needs to portray interior Americans as rubes, low caste people, remedial and reflexive in their thinking. It's pedestal hopping of the worst type and its repugnant, especially coming from immigrant families to this fine shore.
Williamson is just a weird bundle of poorly thought out daddy issues that makes Meghan McCain look mature. He should be banned by polite society from publishing anything.
Posted by: Boswell at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (w2LAm)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (fh9kT)
i'm sorry, but had to do it to stop the spam troll. There is a restriction of something like 8 or ten paragraph breaks, and like 800 or 1000 total characters. This was done to prevent the multipage long spam comments.
Be judicious in your quotations of previous posts and reduce your paragraph breaks
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (5+1A/)
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no problem, ace.
Another thing for a good post that exceeds the limit, is to use the Twitter trick and spread it out over multiple posts.
1/3, 2/3, 3/3
carry on, morons.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (sy5kK)
You're wrong, insulting and worst of all not funny.
Posted by: DaveA at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (FhXTo)
Ditto that. I'm in no mood for assholes today.
Posted by: Ladyl at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: johnd01 at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (ukNFU)
This is what heard again on radio, need to start counting days without incident or attack.
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (Cxk7w)
That stuff is gonna be covered up more than the JFK files.
Well, the way I read it now, out of 32 events reported with Moderna vaccines, there were 11 deaths. Out of 87 adverse events reported with Pfizer, there were 24 deaths. So out of the adverse reactions, "death" seems to be a pretty normal outcome. But then again, what do I know? I'm just reading CDC results. Maybe it's normal for 1/3 of vaccine recipients who have a side effect to actually die.
Posted by: shibumi at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (ZCiJZ)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2021 04:23 PM (5+1A/)
Yeah, it ain't that hard. But that's your burden, running a "conservative" webzine, people get cranky when confronted with change.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (oQ94s)
Posted by: Ladyl at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (TdMsT)
I am!
Posted by: Shep! at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (jBRLB)
Why have a party at all? Sanders seems to do just fine as an I. Wouldn't a grassroots organization that runs and promotes Independent candidates do the job as well, without the interaction with the IRS and all that other garbage that being a "real" political party requires?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, off to the great beyond. at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (C+We0)
Mainly for coordination. After that for brand name I guess.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2021 04:52 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:52 PM (p847M)
It is far worse than that. Voting doesn't bear much relation to how government rules, no matter vote. Please see this study:
"Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence."
https://tinyurl.com/gmpx88s
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:52 PM (nyFPf)
anti-fraud mechanisms are installed and voting integrity is restored,
there is no reason to vote really. They take what they want. Earned or
not. You can't fight that. Prison is needed for those that engage in
fraud. Full proof voter integrity is needed.
Yet, then again, 30-40 million new illegal "Americans" will make it all moot anyway. I got nuttin'.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 27, 2021 04:46 PM (O+I8R)
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The only chance for electoral reform is to elect conservative majorities in local and state legislatures. And then toss every ballot tabulation device that includes a circuit board.
Posted by: mrp at January 27, 2021 04:52 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: SHEP!! at January 27, 2021 04:52 PM (kHF28)
My guess is as long as they can get something from the local market, even if its half spoiled and rationed - cook it under a roof, even if the roof leaks and the blackouts are manageable - and they can still watch sportsball or idiot's reality tv for a bit before going to bed and doing it all again tomorrow after their mandated shift.
Posted by: Pierre at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (kapIh)
On a completely unrelated note, if a government were to use food shipments to control the populace disrupting those shipments might provoke revolt.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:53 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at January 27, 2021 04:53 PM (4Znaf)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (ZGrMX)
If they haven't been leaving France by the thousands, not tough enough.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2021 04:53 PM (mzC78)
Posted by: mrp at January 27, 2021 04:52 PM (Pqytn)
I'd be willing to go for a vote tattoo. It can go right next to the number the dems have planned for me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2021 04:53 PM (lmikk)
hah.... horde mind
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2021 04:53 PM (kHF28)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:43 PM
Come to me.
Posted by: Gas Station Sushi at January 27, 2021 04:53 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Gonzotx at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (eQh3B)
If the choice is stay home or screw *both* parties, I can see them joining in.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (jBRLB)
It is far worse than that. Voting doesn't bear much relation to how government rules, no matter vote. Please see this study:
"Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence."
https://tinyurl.com/gmpx88s
Posted by: some guy out west at January 27, 2021 04:52 PM (nyFPf)
Exactly. But much like the soldier vs general impact on policy(despite there being so many soldiers and them literally having the weapons), it is possible for the soldiers to revolt.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (Zm+LZ)
Sanders had to latch on to the Democrat Party primaries for his Presidential runs.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (2DOZq)
Oh......wait.
https://tinyurl.com/y34rd6ql
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (S7VTO)
The third party will have to focus on those issues, which in many cases still command super-majority support in the electorate.
A new, "Trumpian" party doesn't just grab a large % of GOP voters in many states, it grabs a decent % of Dems, and it mobilizes a good % of discouraged/infrequent voters. That's his "coalition", with which he probably won an epic re-election, though we'll never know now.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (OTzUX)
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excellent insight, rhomboid.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (sy5kK)
Our highly trusted and professional FBI announced that today. An alert for anti-government violence, and they seriously imply it's conservatives instead of the usual suspects.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (qoNQ/)
BTW... I hope PDT runs again in 2024. I wouldn't criticize him if he didn't want to put up with all that crap again. But if he runs he guaranteed has my vote. I'll bet that is true of millions upon millions....
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (pcsoT)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
So, we're Russia now. Excellent.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp - Biden Cheated at January 27, 2021 04:55 PM (qoNQ/)
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at January 27, 2021 04:11 PM (a0IVu)
That would be a gift to the Communists. Read some history of the lead-up to WWII.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2021 04:55 PM (mzC78)
Posted by: shibumi at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (ZCiJZ)
The way I see it, you crunch the numbers (if you can) figure out, if I get out of bed today, what things might kill me? And what are the odds? If I add them all up, what's my risk? Is it 1 out of 100,000? Something higher? Something lower? And then if I add getting this vaccine to the mix, where does the number go from there, if I DON'T get the vaccine?
My basis for not getting the vaccine at this time is the purely speculative, but not unrealistic conclusion that getting it increases my risk of death by a factor of 10 or more. No thanks.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2021 04:55 PM (oQ94s)
Also I'm spitballing that Republican voters will NEVER choose their candidate again.
Just as the Democrat candidate is pre-ordained (yes it is - ask Bernie and his book deals) so too will the Republican. I mean unless you think they wouldn't stoop to "editing" vote counts.
Which means 2024 we will likely have Jeb or someone else who is very tightly controlled and eager to take our vote and stick it in.
That leaves us with little choice moving forward except to make our own luck.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:56 PM (jBRLB)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at January 27, 2021 04:52 PM (p847M)
*******
I haven't gone over to Hot Air, but if Ed is NOW seriously concerned about this then F him for not listening to the real conservatives and his former readers.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:56 PM (NpAcC)
#BlockadeDC. Hell, just cutting off booze shipments to the District of Chyna would paralyze that place in a matter of days. They'd mobilize the National Guard to haul it in.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at January 27, 2021 04:56 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Gonzotx
Yep, and let the Never Trumpers cast their lot with satan. Fuck em, don't need em.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at January 27, 2021 04:56 PM (r1z5A)
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no problem, ace.
Another thing for a good post that exceeds the limit, is to use the Twitter trick and spread it out over multiple posts.
1/3, 2/3, 3/3
carry on, morons. Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:50 PM (sy5kK)
Willowed, but I've found that deleting the number of the previous post you're copying helps.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 27, 2021 04:58 PM (xGzlI)
That leaves us with little choice moving forward except to make our own luck.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:56 PM (jBRLB)
************
Jeb has absolutely no chance.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 04:58 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 04:40 PM (jBRLB)
Respectfully, three dots, then how would you suggest any way to actually organize a political party that can get even a dog catcher elected?
Tulsi is liberal. But she isn't CCP, like Bernie, Joe, Kalama, Kerry, Nancy, Chuck, etc etc etc.
I could see Tulsi and Trump in the same party, against the CCPocrats that have stolen the vote and the government.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:59 PM (sy5kK)
All it means is they intend to do something soon that they know will inspire revolt. This is their way of getting in front of the reaction.
Posted by: Pierre at January 27, 2021 04:59 PM (kapIh)
California has a referendum process. Through it, California has prevented exorbitant property taxes and has also instituted significant local tax reforms; barred illegal aliens from receiving public benefits; barred affirmative action by state and local governments; have recalled one governor; and may recall another.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2021 04:12 PM (KAi1n)
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This is what, for years, has made me wonder if CA isn't much more conservative than their state and nat'l election results indicate: That so many progressive Proposition issues get voted down. I think election tampering has been a thing there for a long time.
Posted by: EyeTest at January 27, 2021 05:00 PM (FkbB3)
Posted by: Ladyl at January 27, 2021 04:45 PM (TdMsT)
And a Lady!
Who just happens to ring steel at 500 yards.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 05:01 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: shibumi
If you brought a food item to the market and had 35 deaths in one month, you would be drug out and hanged.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2021 05:02 PM (0mP7b)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:59 PM (sy5kK)
Unfortunately, I can't. The D party is out and proud splitting full term babies and lighting up buildings over it.
Anyone that would carry that D in 2021, no matter how shitty the other party is, is *showing* you what they are. If she has a change of heart over ripping apart full term babies or for that matter destroying the world, and wants to make a public split with them, my ears will perk up. Until then it's just talk.
Billy Bagpipes knew how to talk too.
Posted by: ... at January 27, 2021 05:02 PM (jBRLB)
Posted by: Ladyl at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (TdMsT)
I am!
Posted by: Shep! at January 27, 2021 04:51 PM (jBRLB)
***********
Ok, that was funny!
Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2021 05:03 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: More at January 27, 2021 04:31 PM (0+aLq)
No, but you are raykon, which is worse.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2021 05:09 PM (mzC78)
The third party will have to focus on those issues, which in many cases still command super-majority support in the electorate.
A new, "Trumpian" party doesn't just grab a large % of GOP voters in many states, it grabs a decent % of Dems, and it mobilizes a good % of discouraged/infrequent voters. That's his "coalition", with which he probably won an epic re-election, though we'll never know now.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2021 04:44 PM (OTzUX)
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excellent insight, rhomboid.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2021 04:54 PM (sy5kK)
This is what scares the shit out of the elites.
Posted by: demoncrat at January 27, 2021 05:10 PM (8WMNe)
for the same reason I prefer speaking of Americanism to Nationalism. We are not blindly devoted to our country right or wrong (DC has been very wrong lately). It is the particulars of our Liberty (bill of rights) that makes America exceptional, and our "devotion" is to the ideals of the sovereign individual. (that contrasts to being devoted to party or certain commie countries)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 27, 2021 05:16 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Art Deco at January 27, 2021 05:20 PM (1BrBu)
Posted by: butch at January 27, 2021 05:22 PM (cHvOo)
Posted by: West at January 27, 2021 05:23 PM (QY+6a)
But what if a large amount of people sent NR a donation for one penny? Would that end up costing NR money?
Posted by: Dr. DJ3Way at January 27, 2021 05:32 PM (bhPL1)
Posted by: Watchdog at January 27, 2021 05:42 PM (L+jCO)
You can't say, "I'm a Freedom", or "I'm an American Greatness".
One Australian politician figured this out the hard way, I think. I forget his name. He was a member of the Country Party, which controlled Parliament at the time. One day, he didn't like something the PM (Howard Winston, I think?) said to him, and he said, "You can't talk to me like that! I'm a Country member!". Winston quipped, "Yes, I remember..."
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 27, 2021 05:54 PM (H3MF8)
Posted by: Pennsylvania Conservative at January 27, 2021 04:00 PM (N/gDA)
Yeah they do.
/Lorena Bobbit
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Fuck you. War at January 27, 2021 06:22 PM (tpneH)
You know what- at this point, I give so little fucks that its almost an Anti-fuck.. Does it matter if a Dickocrat or Repubetard is in charge? They both like dicks.
Fuck them both with a flaming dildo.
Posted by: Joe Wagner at January 27, 2021 06:53 PM (3Jzvk)
Posted by: jeff at January 27, 2021 07:02 PM (J2JqR)
Posted by: Midnight Rambler at January 27, 2021 10:28 PM (8E8Am)
Posted by: bob at January 28, 2021 12:24 AM (hVOXD)
Posted by: Patrick at January 28, 2021 06:14 AM (BDr9u)
What I didn't understand was this. It doesn't matter whether you like the idea or not. The idea doesn't give a fuck. When the time is ready the third party will appear. It doesn't need your discussion or your permission. It will simply materialize and gain traction. It will encompass millions and it will identify blue dogs, Rinos, and the party unfaithful and wash their hands of them. Then all the McConnells and Romneys will be left with a 3rd place team and the world will forget who they are.
Posted by: Waitingfor Godot at January 28, 2021 07:14 AM (1jN6+)
Posted by: RAIDERMAN818 at January 28, 2021 10:19 AM (WIqJp)
But that would be a short-time problem, as people would naturally realign to support the party in the best position to beat the Democrats.""
After the democrats outlawed everything left that could be used to fight them it would be a very long term problem. This idea is AMAZINGLY stupid.
Posted by: Burning at January 28, 2021 10:40 AM (K2Psk)
Gee The Dishonorable DJT, weird how Populism and class envy cut both ways.
Posted by: Burning at January 28, 2021 10:48 AM (K2Psk)
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