Gun Thread: Living in Interesting Times Edition! [Weasel]

To say we're living in interesting times is an understatement of epic proportions, and I suspect things are about to get more interestinger. The left will very soon control the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives, and there is very little stopping them from doing what they have said all along they intend to do with respect to guns, ammunition and the 2nd Amendment.

We'll get to that in a minute, but first I want to make a few observations. Everyone is pissed, and I get that. I'm pissed too. However, I'm equally disappointed in some of the comments on this blog during the last week or so. Specifically, those where commenters express their anger and frustration by making threatening comments about real and specific people, or other acts of retribution they envision carrying out. First of all, you aren't scaring or impressing anybody. Anyone seriously contemplating these acts and discussing it on the internet is an idiot, so I have to conclude it's mostly bravado from tough-cookie internet keyboard warriors. Knock it off.

Second and much more importantly, we are all guests here. There is one guy who owns this place, and it ain't you or me. By making idiotic threats, even veiled ones, you are placing the entire site at risk. We are already seeing a move against conservative voices, and by making yourself feel like a big badass internet hombre, you're making Ace of Spades HQ a big juicy target. Again, knock it off. I happen to like this place, and spend a fair amount of time reading, commenting, and writing the Gun Thread. I do not want to see it ruined just because a few people are so selfish, undisciplined and lacking in common sense they're unable to control what they say. So please, if you enjoy the blog in general and the Gun Thread in particular and don't want to see them go away, knock it off.

Now, with that unpleasantness out of the way, let's see what we have below, shall we?

Back to our interesting times.

So what's going to happen? Who the hell knows, but I think it's safe to assume we are going to see some significant infringements on our 2nd Amendment rights. Whether that's in the form of outright banning specific weapons platforms, making certain components illegal to possess, implementation of confiscatory taxes or even registration mandates, remains to be seen. Suffice it to say, we're all going to feel it and probably very soon. We also have some decisions to make, and right now is the time to start making them. If you were considering buying a gun, or if you need to stock up on ammo, you had better get busy. The clock is ticking and time is not in your favor. I cannot make this any clearer. Get moving.

Now is also a really good time to consider adopting a Grey Man strategy for your life in general. Although usually thought of in terms of disaster and survival scenarios, the same concepts can be applied to living behind enemy lines, which is where we all find ourselves now. Examples of ways to practice this strategy can be found here and here. Be creative in thinking of ways to minimize your conservative and gun owner footprint. You may want to be more circumspect before joining groups or letting new people into your circle of friends. I am in no way suggesting you abandon your beliefs, but rather simply suggesting you not want to be the tallest blade of grass.

Finally, try and enjoy your life. I know it's tough to think about right now, but having a positive outlook does wonders for your well-being and the effect you have on those around you. Not everything is doom and gloom, all of the time. This is the hand we were dealt and now we have to live with it. You have two choices; you either hop on the "it's over" bus and crash, or figure out ways to adapt to our new reality. I am unwilling to spend all of the days I have remaining being miserable. The choice is up to you, but I'm not willing to toss in the towel just yet.

A couple of GT housekeeping announcements.
Some time ago I purchased the domain Weasel Gun Thread. The idea at the time was to have a central place to archive old GT posts, and consolidate other content. Although I haven't done much with the site so far, if something were to happen to this blog that will be the place to go for Gun Thread content if you're still interested. I suggest you bookmark the site now if you are so inclined. Also, I am ditching the gmail account morongunthread@gmail.com and will begin using gunthread@protonmail.com effective immediately. I will keep the gmail account open for a while, but if you want to get in touch with me, please use the new email address starting now. Also, when writing, please include your AoSHQ nic if you have one.

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First up, our pal Duke Lowell's son recently took delivery of a Mosin Nagant and accessories. According to Duke, cleaning the cosmoline was a chore, but well worth the effort. Since I forgot to put this in the thread for a couple of weeks it has now been to the range and I cant wait for a report on how it shoots!

At the Gunshop

Ready for the Range!

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In late December, our pal Sua Sponte reported he had been introducing his grand daughter to shooting and was surprising her for Christmas with her very own rifle!

I have been working with my grand daughter the past few months on her introduction to firearms and started her off with her very own Red Rider BB gun. She's became quite accomplished with it, more importantly, has really nailed down the safety rules of firearms. She turns 9 this month and has been asking me for several weeks when she will be able to upgrade from the BB gun and start shooting a 22. She's progressed quite a bit and it was time to get her her very own 22. We sat down one evening and went through some rifles she might like. She wanted nothing to do with any stocks that looked too girly, such as the bright pink and purple's. I favored the KSA Crickett as a good starter, single shot, pull to cock firing pin, making it a bit more safer yet still accomplishing the goal of really learning. Anyhow, they had one in a Muddy-Girl design she really liked and naturally with the way things are lately, were nowhere to be found. I did however come across one in FDE and decided to spice it up for her. I hydro-dipped the stock and cheek rest in the Galaxy film. It's a fairly simple process, but does require some patience and attention to detail during the application. I graduated from SDI in 2018 and happened to have a roll of it still on the shelf from class and hope it doesn't border too much on the girly side but is still unique. I'm pretty sure I'm more excited about this and getting her out on the range than she will be.

And here is the Christmas Day follow-up!

Was finally able to get my grand daughter out on the range with her new Pew Pew. As I said before, I was more excited than she was. We spent about twenty minutes going over safety rules and then I had her dry run through the manual of arms a few times. After that, she was a natural. She was shooting from 25 yards. It's a great little rifle and shoots very well, I think this is a really good starter for kids.

I think the look on her face says it all! Very nicely done, Grandpa!

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Next up, our pal AHL takes his Yugo out for a drive

I once again used my Yugo M70 in 7.65mm Browning (.32 ACP to us Americans). The two targets you see were both used at a range of 10 yards. One has significantly more hits and better shot placement. So why the difference?
The answer is: stress. I got more hits (and better ones) when I was relaxed and taking my time. I was doing the same drill - racking before engaging, pausing to reacquire the target after each shot, but I was not in a hurry.
With the other target I tried to go as fast as possible - as if my life depended on it! The result was worse hits and a lot of shots didn't even make the paper. That's what stress does to you.
It's good to do both - building fundamentals and accuracy and then pushing yourself.
I'll conclude by reminding folks that M70s can be had for about $250 and ammo for them is still available and relatively cheap.

I cannot agree with you more, AHL. Don't just stand there plinking, but rather practice with a purpose and concentrate on what you're doing!

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I'm not sure why you would want to store guns in a vacuum sealed bag. Maybe preserving freshness is a thing? Who knew!

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On several occasions, we have discussed various self defense ammo and wadcutters have been mentioned. If I am not mistaken, our very own pal Jim - Sunk New Dawn is an advocate of their use in this application. Let's take a closer look in this video from Lucky Gunner.

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The use of old ammo is a perennial question here on the 'ol Gun Thread. Here's a guy in the woods discussing the matter.

Towards the end he mentions something about 25 years being the point at which you start to worry about ammo. I'm here to tell you that I shoot surplus ammo all the time which is close to three times as old with absolutely no problem. I am not suggesting you use ancient ammo in your primary self defense weapon, but for plinking and practice, it's more than likely just fine unless there are obvious signs of deterioration.

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Next up, our pal CK shares a DIY project.

People ask from time to time about brass catchers. This was my very first project when I got my first AR and had just started shooting. This brass catcher has caught 95% of the brass/steel I've ever shot. I started out with cardboard prototypes and ended up with this. It works, field tested, scrap shelving and a cut up duffel bag!!

I like these types of projects a lot. Something that annoys me is how anything made specifically for a sport magically becomes extremely overpriced, and I like to find inventive ways around that. Great job, CK! You made something functional out of spare stuff you had around the shop.

How about you all? Any inventive Morons out there? What have you made or modified for use in the shooting sports? Send a picture and a description and I will feature your work!

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I received an email offer for this system ($99) and since we've again been discussing training aids, thought I'd toss it out for comment.

Anyone have a Strikeman Laser Training System and care to do a review?

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A couple of weeks back our pal Blake shared some pics and a range report and late in the thread our other pal ROBYN ADKINS made the following comment:

Nice story from Blake, allow me to make a shameless plug for the range he mentioned, San Luis Obispo Sportsmen's Association, slosa.org. To have a range of this quality in my backyard is a true blessing. Sitting on over 400 acres, we have every type of shooting you can imagine. We also host firearms classes nearly every weekend...great for new firearms owners!
Our three main public ranges are rifle & pistol, trap & skeet, and archery. In addition to those three ranges, there are a wide variety of specialty venues/matches at SLOSA: Chorro Valley Regulators Muzzleloaders, various matches at the Hogue Action Pistol range (IDPA, ICORE, USPSA, Steel Challenge, USPSA-3-Gun, USPSA Tactical Shotgun, Rimfire Match).
The range is located off of Highway 1 between San Luis Obispo and Morro Bay. Map our physical address: 3270 Gilardi Road, San Luis Obispo, CA.

It occurs to me that it might be fun to feature some of your home ranges from time to time. So if your range is doing a good job, send me a pic and let us know what they are doing right along with the general location in case nearby Morons are interested.

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Our pal MisHum sends in this week's entry. Thanks for this and all you do, MisHum!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM

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1 Yes I have!

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:00 PM (Cxk7w)

2 Not last

Posted by: Rancherbob at January 10, 2021 07:01 PM (gtu9W)

3 Nice roomy gun thread

Posted by: Aviator at January 10, 2021 07:01 PM (0FTCx)

4 So apparently Charlie Kirk deleted a tweet saying he sent '80+ buses full of patriots' to D.C.

WTF is happening. Sending people to Washington DC for a rally is not a crime.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 07:02 PM (Y4L7k)

5 Thanks for the fun thread, Weasel! Off to read the content and to lurk.

Posted by: Pod Hamp at January 10, 2021 07:02 PM (RBFmA)

6 Haven't been around last couple of weeks, did I miss anything?????

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:03 PM (7bRMQ)

7 Horde summoned
Went to a indoor range to test my 1911 Colt as something was going on 2 years ago. Well cleaned and oiled and still was occasionally needing assistance to feed a new magazine.
Found out last couple days 2 old magazines, original and another 35 years old are giving a issue if full 7 rounds, 5 seems better. 1 new magazine feeds wit hout a problem.

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:04 PM (Cxk7w)

8 The range had ammo, but you only could buy for what weapon you had in hand. I wasn't thinking but should at least bought 2 boxes and fired the 1 I planned. Kicked myself as soon as I got home.

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:06 PM (Cxk7w)

9 Amen Weasel!! People need to think about Ace and if they want this place to still be around.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at January 10, 2021 07:07 PM (nxdel)

10 Stripe Inc. will no longer process payments for Pres. Trump's campaign website following last week's Capitol riot.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 07:07 PM (Y4L7k)

11 Interesting commercial about Freedom by Egard Watches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXw6S5jHJ5w&feature=emb_logo

Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2021 07:07 PM (dWwl8)

12 Researched converting some cash into Swiss francs.
All Credit Suisse offices in the US are for institutional inverters.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 10, 2021 07:08 PM (CZm2G)

13 Oldest tow sons took the Mosin to the range last week. Sights are stuck and I'm afraid to mess with them too much. After a bit of Kentucky windage, they both had nice offhand groupings at 100 yards.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 07:08 PM (kTF2Z)

14 I've always assumed that the people actually commenting on committing specific, targeted violence are the least likely to do it.
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Worry about the ones not talking about it at all.
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And for guns, I got to shoot the new Tikka twice more this week. It's a beautiful rifle. I'm building myself a range book so I can accurately track the weapon and my progress with it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, fuck you, war. at January 10, 2021 07:09 PM (tpneH)

15 In before the internet crashes, banks go offline and the Easter Bunny Rides tomorrow's sunset up the horizon with a pair of Colt Peacemakers strapped to his hips.

Lol.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:09 PM (8hXCT)

16 Thanks for your wise words of common sense caution, Weasel. Those of us who are blessed to be guests in Ace's place don't want to see it disappeared because of some dang fool runnin his mouth. Or hers. Or xirs.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 10, 2021 07:09 PM (gm3d+)

17 Yes, the one island of sanity.
That is a purty looking Mosin. I like.

Now that that is out of the way. Weasel,nice steps taken with the archive and the email address. I like to think my footprint is shallow in regards to being a gun owner. I have never mentioned that I am a gun owner on Facebook nor have I posted any pictures. It will be trying times but we will get through it. If there is a TXMoMe next year I have the strange feeling I might be canoeing.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 10, 2021 07:09 PM (mcfjc)

18 Well said, Weasel !

Nope, no range visit this week, nor anything else related, even dry fire practice ... ammo has become nonexistent around here.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 07:10 PM (pmEbq)

19 If you think assuming a "grey man" posture is going to spare you from the communist hoard, I don't know what to say. You're no student of history, that's for damn sure.

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 10, 2021 07:10 PM (Hd73Y)

20 "have you been to the range?"

I went yesterday, just to confirm that the Georgia Arms reloads with 185 grain Speer JHP cycle in the Ruger 4.5" 1911. They do. They're also really... festive. Got a lot of "feel it in your throat" concussion and more perceived recoil than the Hornady Critical Defense. YMMV.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 10, 2021 07:10 PM (t+qrx)

21 Instead of getting an AR-15 I was thinking of getting a AR-12 since I have 3 12 gauge shotguns and the ammo is cheaper and I have plenty of it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 10, 2021 07:10 PM (dKiJG)

22 So question can magazines go bad 35 years old? We know if stored fully loaded usually isn't a problem but my mags have been loaded and unloaded hundreds of times in that period.

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:11 PM (Cxk7w)

23 19 If you think assuming a "grey man" posture is going to spare you from the communist hoard, I don't know what to say. You're no student of history, that's for damn sure.
Posted by: PacosMojo at January 10, 2021 07:10 PM (Hd73Y)
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Merely a suggestion.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:11 PM (MVjcR)

24 Maybe I'm being more paranoid than usual, but I'm very reluctant to purchase guns/ammo via the internet and/or with a credit/debit card.

Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 07:11 PM (l3+k2)

25 I was going to go to the range yesterday, to sight in the laser I got for Christmas (TLR-

but ended up taking my boy Logan to the vet, where he died.

So maybe will try next week.

Get used to living in war time, develop an outlaw attitude because brothers and sisters, the Left will be attempting to outlaw us. Literally.

The THING is here. The TIME is here.

Good luck to us all.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:12 PM (uxJPn)

26 We went just for a quick range trip today. Aired out the HK USP SS Match in .45.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:12 PM (8hXCT)

27 No range reports.
I spent a couple of days in Seattle and it's been muddy, rainy and snowy where I shoot.
I did go down a couple of rabbit holes the last few days with sites that I failed to write down or save but one was a guy who had purchased a 9 mm gatling gun.
Supposedly legal since it's semi auto. Not mechanised or gas operated but cranked.
65 pounds and takes Glock magazines.
Eats ammo at an incredible rate.
I was looking up Puckle Guns and the Hotchkiss cannons.
I have no clue why.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 10, 2021 07:12 PM (z985I)

28 Maybe I'm being more paranoid than usual, but I'm very reluctant to purchase guns/ammo via the internet and/or with a credit/debit card.
Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 07:11 PM (l3+k2)

Fair concern, but that ship has sailed for a lot of us. I'd guess for nearly all.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 10, 2021 07:12 PM (t+qrx)

29 Mark Andrew Edwards - I am very sorry about your dog.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (gm3d+)

30 Oldest tow sons took the Mosin to the range last week. Sights are stuck and I'm afraid to mess with them too much. After a bit of Kentucky windage, they both had nice offhand groupings at 100 yards.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 07:08 PM (kTF2Z)

There is a fella on EBay who lists Mosin front sight tools for sale to adjust the front sight if you don't want to drift with a punch/hammer.
Also has Mauser, Enfield and the like tools.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (R/m4+)

31 While reading the heads up, which is well said and should be heeded, a little voice in the back of my head asked,
'he didn't do the video again, did he?'/

Posted by: Braenyard at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (CZm2G)

32
Listen to Weasel. He is the voice of reason.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (zemAi)

33 Earl does nug how-to vids. Why not? I dig his photo stuff.

Posted by: klaftern at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (RuIsu)

34 "Merely a suggestion.
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:11 PM (MVjcR)"

And a good one. Take that from someone who needed to be the grey man in a foreign land several times.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (8hXCT)

35 Thanks for your wisdom in your opening statements, Weasel, very well put.
God, Mosins are really beautiful rifles.
I would love to fire one.
I have no old ammo issues, I have had the occasional dud in ammo regardless of the age.
It happens.
That should be part of your practice, clearing a misfire or a stovepipe.

Posted by: navybrat, in the bunker at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (w7KSn)

36 I would love to take that rifle to the range, but right eye is still recovering from having the retina reattached and I'm afraid I'll shake something loose.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 07:14 PM (kTF2Z)

37 That is one happy looking kid up there, lucky to have a grandpa like you, Sua Sponte !
Hope she gets a lot of enjoyment out of many years of shooting !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 07:14 PM (pmEbq)

38 22 So question can magazines go bad 35 years old? We know if stored fully loaded usually isn't a problem but my mags have been loaded and unloaded hundreds of times in that period.
Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:11 PM (Cxk7w)

loading and unloading is what degrades springs. If you start seeing failures to feed on mags that you have used a lot, look at replacing springs or trying to otherwise maintain them.

Leaving mags loaded, even at full capacity, won't cause malfunctions, in my experience.

All that said, new mags and springs are better than older designs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:14 PM (uxJPn)

39
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 10, 2021 07:14 PM (aDhTC)

40 MAE your in my prayers brother. Chin up, keep the faith and never quit.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:14 PM (8hXCT)

41 Listen to Weasel. He is the voice of reason.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (zemAi)

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I thought he was pre-med?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 07:15 PM (kTF2Z)

42 While reading the heads up, which is well said and should be heeded, a little voice in the back of my head asked,
'he didn't do the video again, did he?'/
Posted by: Braenyard at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (CZm2G)
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HA! Nope, sure didn't I'm sorry to say. Work has been really busy lately but that should be ending later this month.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:15 PM (MVjcR)

43 WTF is happening. Sending people to Washington DC for a rally is not a crime.

It is now. Which is rather the point.

They push everybody in a corner, throw shit on them, and then fire them, deplatform, unperson them, arrest them or whatever, when they predictably and justifiably become outraged.

They've been planning this very kind of thing and refining the techniques and procedures, setting the stage for this for
decades.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 10, 2021 07:15 PM (K3Cm5)

44 I'm not sure why you would want to store guns in a vacuum sealed bag.

No moisture, maybe?

Posted by: Methos at January 10, 2021 07:15 PM (kOpft)

45 29 Mark Andrew Edwards - I am very sorry about your dog.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 10, 2021 07:13 PM (gm3d+)

Thanks Grammie. This is a new kind of pain, didn't expect this. I'll see him again, I sent him ahead to scout the way.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:15 PM (uxJPn)

46 I am not aware of the gray man doctrine, but I certainly have the looks down.
I assume it means blend in, don't make trouble.

Posted by: navybrat, in the bunker at January 10, 2021 07:16 PM (w7KSn)

47 40 MAE your in my prayers brother. Chin up, keep the faith and never quit.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:14 PM (8hXCT)

Thank you, sir.

I intend to die trying.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:16 PM (uxJPn)

48 I may have asked this question before. I thinkI have settled on a Centurion 18 by Liberty. I don't need much for my situation. Any thoughts?

Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:16 PM (wR3DP)

49 Where are the, how you say, dog video clips, for which this Thread is so, how you say, justly famouso?

Posted by: Hilaria B. at January 10, 2021 07:17 PM (DMUuz)

50 Mark
I'm sorry to hear about Logan.
It's hard and painful as hell to lose a faithful companion.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 10, 2021 07:17 PM (z985I)

51 Old or neglected mags are very often a cause of malfunctions. It's not always the age per se, it is the general condition. Springs do degrade over time and the new springs on reputable mags are better nowadays. However, mags need to be taken apart, cleaned, inspected and properly oiled.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:17 PM (8hXCT)

52 21 Instead of getting an AR-15 I was thinking of getting a AR-12 since I have 3 12 gauge shotguns and the ammo is cheaper and I have plenty of it.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 10, 2021 07:10 PM (dKiJG)

Get one of each, while you can

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:17 PM (uxJPn)

53 Thanks, Weasel, for the Gub Thread! I look forward to this every week.

I know that I'm unfamiliar to the Horde generally. I don't post much, but I'm always reading the posts and comments. I can't agree enough with Professor Weasel's admonition about living behind enemy lines. I believe that our situation is beginning to resemble what ordinary people in the USSR lived with. They knew what would happen to them if they came to the attention of the authorities; they and their families would be harassed (at a minimum), jailed, exiled to the prison camps, or killed.

As Weasel said, the Gray Man strategy is best for living in our times. Enjoy life; go out into the sunshine; play with your kids, grandkids, and everyone else; in general, live. The people of the USSR learned how to do this; now it's our turn. May God bless us all.

Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at January 10, 2021 07:18 PM (YWBlw)

54 So question can magazines go bad 35 years old?Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:11 PM (Cxk7w)

Well, I have a more than 35 year old magazine with lingerie pix of Vanna White in it. Seems to be in good condition. A little worn....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:18 PM (7bRMQ)

55 50 Mark
I'm sorry to hear about Logan.
It's hard and painful as hell to lose a faithful companion.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 10, 2021 07:17 PM (z985I)

Thank you, sir.

I still haven't processed it. I keep thinking he's in the house somewhere.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:18 PM (uxJPn)

56 Duke Lowell, I'm sorry I didn't get my dinner invitation.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2021 07:18 PM (zemAi)

57 Weasel site bookmarked, thanks. Always good to have a hidey hole or 3. I've used AOSHQ as a crutch for my sanity for over 12 years. Don't want to lose it now.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 10, 2021 07:19 PM (bAe71)

58 To answer your question why,
you would store your spare guns in a vacuum seal bag to keep moisture away from them... really handy if you don't have any cosmoline around and find a sudden need to store them at teh bottom of a 55 gallon water barrel

Posted by: JD at January 10, 2021 07:19 PM (7Wk+w)

59 The PGA will be cancelling all tournaments and instituting a lifetime ban of ever holding events at Trump Courses including stripping Trump of hosting the 2022 PGA Championship, insider says.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 07:19 PM (Y4L7k)

60 49 Where are the, how you say, dog video clips, for which this Thread is so, how you say, justly famouso?
Posted by: Hilaria B. at January 10, 2021 07:17 PM (DMUuz)
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See WeaselAcres on YouTube!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:19 PM (MVjcR)

61 48 I may have asked this question before. I thinkI have settled on a Centurion 18 by Liberty. I don't need much for my situation. Any thoughts?
Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:16 PM (wR3DP)

Looks like a good breeding ground. Put in 6 guns, shut the door, in a few months, it'll be full!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:19 PM (uxJPn)

62 Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at January 10, 2021 07:18 PM (YWBlw)
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Thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

63 Right after the election, I saw Tucker, Daily Wire, and PJ Media (and sister sites Hot Air, Redstate, etc) turn against Trump. After a couple weeks I just stopped dropping by.

The only site worth a f**k through all this has been Gateway Pundit. I has assumed I'd fall back on AoSHQ more, but it has really been the other way around. I rarely comment. This is probably the 5th time ever. So, I didn't post any violent threats of any kind.

Having endured your lecture and how you treat people legit losing their minds over all this, I'm done with this place, too.

Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)

64 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly

lol, I have more.

So sorry to hear about Logan.

Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (wR3DP)

65 Posted by: JD at January 10, 2021 07:19 PM (7Wk+w)
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Should I have included the snark tag?

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

66 Howdy, Horde! And, Weasel, the first thing I did was Bookmark your site. Theseciind thing I did was watch Weasel dog and Shoe baby. The third thing I did was giggle. And now I'm here. Boy thers a lot to read and I'll do that and catch up. Back in a bit

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (Iw46i)

67 Sorry about Logan, MAE.

How many magazines should one have? Naturally the default Horde answer is MORE but practically speaking, one can only carry so many, so say, three plus a few spares at home? This is with a pistol in mind, I recognize one would have several more for a rifle.

Posted by: Retief at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (SWlro)

68 For the ettes. Go to "Shoot Like a Girl's website and attend one of their events.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:23 PM (8hXCT)

69 Blending in and not making trouble made sense before a massive digital footprint was made of you. Just visiting this site makes you an enemy of the state.

I am not concerned. Frankly, I wouldn't want to be part of a country that bends its neck so blithely to evil.

Posted by: trev006 at January 10, 2021 07:23 PM (PXArY)

70 Just checked, post office says they delivered my BCG and it's not here. Damn

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 07:23 PM (iBg56)

71
Having endured your lecture and how you treat people legit losing their minds over all this, I'm done with this place, too.
Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)
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Thanks for stopping by!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:23 PM (MVjcR)

72 Goodbye weekend TV golf naps.

Posted by: klaftern at January 10, 2021 07:23 PM (RuIsu)

73 I may have asked this question before. I thinkI have settled on a Centurion 18 by Liberty. I don't need much for my situation. Any thoughts?
Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:16 PM

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Looks like a good breeding ground. Put in 6 guns, shut the door, in a few months, it'll be full!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:19 PM

A good rule of thumb is to buy a safe with at least 2x the current inventory.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 07:23 PM (DMUuz)

74 fyi, tried to hit the pp up top. When I hit send I got 3rd w crap and language.

Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:24 PM (wR3DP)

75 how you treat people

Weasel has treated people with good humor, kindness, and respect. Do you have evidence otherwise?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 10, 2021 07:24 PM (gm3d+)

76 Hi Weasel, dropped you an e-mail at the new addy.

Hoping to hit the range on Tuesday with our son, and his new AR-10.

Somehow, he walked out of the local gun shop with a case of .308.

Spent the afternoon making target racks, and putting his new gun case together.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (3D/fK)

77 At last count I saw four separate gun control bills already being floated by the House so they can get the show going as soon as the Democrats control the Senate. New ATF agents, illegal guns and ammo, etc.

Now is the time to sell all of your semi-autos, magazines, and the bulk of your ammo for cash while it is still legal to do so. If you have a concealed carry permit and/or are an NRA member or donated any amount to Trump (because those are the places where the 200 new ATF agents are going to look first) you might want to keep one semi-auto and pay the related tax in order to have a self defense carry option until that is outlawed. Then obey that law, too.

That one semi-auto with the related paperwork should be the only one you own going forward, though.

Above all, obey the law. That's the most important thing. Continue to be a law abiding citizen.

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (CM8Oa)

78 Having endured your lecture and how you treat people legit losing their minds over all this, I'm done with this place, too.
Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)

Sorry to hear that. You seem righteous, maybe SocialGalactic would be a good fit for you.

Posted by: trev006 at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (PXArY)

79 I'm really trying to be good. It's the Lord's day and all.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (8hXCT)

80 Somehow I think my odds of finding primers again in the next 2 years (minimum) is approaching zero.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (C/oM9)

81 I absolutely agree with Weasel about the comments. First, it's not our home. It is Ace's. Second, it just makes you a target, however unjust that is. We're seeing examples of that everyday. I understand, and share, the anger but keep it cool. It's to everyone's benefit, including your own.

Posted by: JTB at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (7EjX1)

82 74 fyi, tried to hit the pp up top. When I hit send I got 3rd w crap and language.
Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:24 PM (wR3DP)
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Sorry - problem with a link?

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

83 "Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (CM8Oa)"

Molon labe motherfucker.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:26 PM (8hXCT)

84 Live my life as a gray man and fight with the NRA.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2021 07:26 PM (63Dwl)

85 Posted by: Retief at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (SWlro)

I think that depends on your situation. For me, I am in a " bunker down and shelter in place" situation. I won't be anywhere but my place of something really pops off.
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Under those conditions, I've got 75 magazines for my AR, five for each sidearm, and two for my long range bolt gun.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, fuck you, war. at January 10, 2021 07:26 PM (tpneH)

86 Forgotten Guns was one of the sites I visited for old guns.
Interesting information.

I fully second Weasel on keeping the threats and Rambo stuff out of here.
This is Ace's house and we are guests.
Don't like it? Hit the bricks.
I welcome the knowledge and snark here and find the rules not onerous.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 10, 2021 07:26 PM (z985I)

87 Having endured your lecture and how you treat people legit losing their minds over all this, I'm done with this place, too.

Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)

I think you have completely misinterpreted Weasel's message. Slow down a bit and realize that nothing he has requested is even remotely unacceptable in a public forum.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2021 07:27 PM (xT2tT)

88 I've gone Gray Man. I do not live in a particularly dangerous neighborhood, but I like my job, and do want to be ousted by Millennial scolds for something as benign as wearing my PDT Punisher ball cap.

My house is in a good neighborhood (ironically, perhaps, 2/3 Messican). I like my neighbors. but I choose to stay under the radar.

funny thing is, I would get more grief from the soi-crowd at my office than I would from my neighbors.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Does this mask smell like chloroform? at January 10, 2021 07:27 PM (x8Wzq)

89 However, I'm equally disappointed in some of the comments on this blog during the last week or so. Specifically, those where commenters express their anger and frustration by making threatening comments about real and specific people, or other acts of retribution they envision carrying out.

Second and much more importantly, we are all guests here. There is one guy who owns this place, and it ain't you or me. By making idiotic threats, even veiled ones, you are placing the entire site at risk. We are already seeing a move against conservative voices, and by making yourself feel like a big badass internet hombre, you're making Ace of Spades HQ a big juicy target.

Well said Weasel. But I'd add that you're right is ultimately responsible for the site he owns and I've seen no indication that he's acting to ban those commentators so I think he has to take some serious personal responsibility if the site does gets shut down.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 07:27 PM (Y4L7k)

90 She would probably disagree but this looks like a much better brass-catcher to me!
https://tinyurl.com/y54f7arw
(Image file.)

Posted by: andycanuck at January 10, 2021 07:27 PM (ab0zp)

91 Do not respond and do not copy the asshole, please.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2021 07:27 PM (zemAi)

92 Sua Sponte's grand daughter is a cutie pie! The look on her face is wonderful. Thanks so much for sharing those photos. It warms an old man's heart.

Posted by: JTB at January 10, 2021 07:27 PM (7EjX1)

93 Vacuum bag video guy said he applied wd40 the the guns before storage. I've been told wd40 hurts bluing?

Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 07:27 PM (l3+k2)

94 Speaking of old ammo, I once had a 30/40 Krag rifle. When I bought it the dealer also sold me some "Vintage" rounds. WW-l vintage. I chambered one at the range and upon firing felt the tip of my nose burning. Subsequently rubbed some soot from my proboscis and discovered that the bottom of the casing was blown out. I still have the remaining 19 rounds.

Posted by: Javems at January 10, 2021 07:28 PM (8SSHh)

95 A friend is considering getting a few black powder firearms, because, you know. He has some questions:

Thompson-Center muzzle loaders good?
Revolvers: Uberti or Pietta?
Revolver caliber: .44 or .36?
Barrel length: 5.5 inch or 8 inch?
A recommended make and model?
Thank you.

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 07:28 PM (AMIL/)

96 You know, we really can't win. Next thing you know, following the law will be illegal!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:28 PM (7bRMQ)

97 Our Thread host, amongst other wise and learned commenters here, have long advised stocking up on certain consumables.

It would behoove all of us to stock up on standard-capacity holders for same.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 07:29 PM (DMUuz)

98 Annoying... I have mounted a reflex sight on my AR. I used a bore sighting system to more or less zero it in until I could get the gun to a range... my backyard... 50 yards.

Here's the thing... the optic has a cover that is a pain in the ass to remove. A rubber like sheath, not like "that" rubber, but stiff (again not like that.) When removed it totally torques off the reflex so it's nowhere near what was zeroed in.

What's a good cover for a sight like this? Cloth?

Posted by: Bourbon Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at January 10, 2021 07:30 PM (3H9h1)

99 Thanks for stopping by!

I chortled.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 07:30 PM (W4eKo)

100 Molon labe motherfucker.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2021 07:26 PM (8hXCT)

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They will. That' s why it is smart to cash out now (or even hand them in to the gun "buybacks" no questions asked) and have only one remaining with all the required paperwork.

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 07:30 PM (CM8Oa)

101 Well said Weasel. But I'd add that you're right ACE[/] is ultimately responsible for the site he owns and I've seen no indication that he's acting to ban those commentators so I think he has to take some serious personal responsibility if the site does gets shut down.

Goddamn new text number limits.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 07:30 PM (Y4L7k)

102 91 Do not respond and do not copy the asshole, please.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2021 07:27 PM (zemAi)
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It really only encourages me!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

103 "I'm done with this place, too.
Posted by: Andy Stern"
***
Bye Andy. Hope you find happiness somewhere.

Posted by: Cosda at January 10, 2021 07:31 PM (9B+3n)

104 When I was a ute, there was a Mr. Stern who ran the Stop and Go store on the corner. He was kinda old but a nice man. The girls I would hang out with would flirt with him and give him the eye while another girl would steal smokes, sodas and candy from the aisle. I would tell them to put the stuff back but they would laugh and off they'd go.

I felt bad for old Mr. Stern.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 07:31 PM (R/m4+)

105 Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 07:30 PM (CM8Oa

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Nice try, Fed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 07:31 PM (kTF2Z)

106 I have something like 5 Mosin in the one gun safe.
Including the m-44 carbine.

The only thing I have ever put through them has been milsurp, from as far back as the 70's.

Never had a single problem with the ammo. Just a good cleaning afterward due to the corrosive nature of the old ammo.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 10, 2021 07:31 PM (3D/fK)

107 4 So apparently Charlie Kirk deleted a tweet saying he sent '80+ buses full of patriots' to D.C. WTF is happening. Sending people to Washington DC for a rally is not a crime.
Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 07:02 PM (Y4L7k)

You only need to look at the paragraph that says "Second and much more importantly..." What it's saying is that challenging the narrative that Biden won fair and square and will be sworn in 20JAN, and nobody can and should do anything about it, is being labelled hate speech and sedition. It's a surrender to our new socialist masters before they have actually won. Basically, the content of the posts have been, and will continue to be largely irrelevant, and any contrary discussion in the comments is being discouraged.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 10, 2021 07:31 PM (hOOi9)

108 Weasel, is firearm discharge allowed in the barrel? Asking for Cancel Culture....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:32 PM (7bRMQ)

109 So apparently Charlie Kirk deleted a tweet saying he sent '80+ buses full of patriots' to D.C. WTF is happening. Sending people to Washington DC for a rally is not a crime.
Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 07:02 PM (Y4L7k)

There is stuff going on, and the Big Tech and others are working very hard to sever the lines of communication between the good guys, most importantly meaning between the POTUS and the American people. The only significant story on here - the one with the flaming skull, for crying out loud - is sitting in the side bar. Ace has to do what he has to do, but that sort of means becoming FoxNews, and we know the only way THAT road leads.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 10, 2021 07:32 PM (hOOi9)

110 Sorry - problem with a link?
Posted by: Weasel

Not sure. I haven't used pp in years. It was very strange. Happened twice. I will check the bank tomorrow am.

Very strange. May have to figure another way.

Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:33 PM (wR3DP)

111 Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:32 PM (7bRMQ)
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Good question!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:33 PM (MVjcR)

112 Not sure. I haven't used pp in years. It was very strange. Happened twice. I will check the bank tomorrow am.

Very strange. May have to figure another way.
Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:33 PM (wR3DP)
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Oh! The PayPal link? I'll defer that to CBD.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:34 PM (MVjcR)

113 What Weasel has written is wisdom. There are many assholes like the ones in this thread, flooding Gun forums. They are stirring up trouble, provoking certain responses, saving material and then reporting the forums to law enforcement, including the FBI. They know some of those agencies have to investigate to a certain degree. Do not give these people who spend all day sucking their mothers dick cause to have these forums taken down.

Posted by: Hesco Gupsy, stating from 457 meters at January 10, 2021 07:34 PM (njahg)

114 I want thank you Weasel, and all gun threaders. My oldest decided to get some 223 ammo this week by checking the stores. Needless to say lots of empty shelves were found, and then dad (Me) went and bought some on ammo seeker. Thanks to all because saved me a headache.

Posted by: Picric at January 10, 2021 07:34 PM (NfFzi)

115 helping two basic gun virgins today with "Firearms 101" or "why your cop friend telling you 'get a Glock' isn't necessarily the best advice in the world...

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 07:34 PM (eWWz4)

116 Sorry about the distraction.

Posted by: Infidel at January 10, 2021 07:34 PM (wR3DP)

117 46 I am not aware of the gray man doctrine, but I certainly have the looks down.
I assume it means blend in, don't make trouble.
Posted by: navybrat, in the bunker
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the gray man doctrine buys you time in bad situations, when seconds count.

Posted by: BluesFish at January 10, 2021 07:34 PM (xibKI)

118 97...

To what end? Why would Gray Man need a stockpile of ammunition? Or any firearms that consume large supply's of ammo for that matter. If the communists end up banning semiautomatic firearms, Gray Man will obey and submit. So, if you willingly surrender your AR-15's and Glock 19's, why stockpile .556 and 9mm, respectively? Gray Man will do just fine with his registered double barrel shotgun and muzzleloader.

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 10, 2021 07:35 PM (Hd73Y)

119 >>I'm not sure why you would want to store guns in a vacuum sealed bag.

No moisture, maybe?
Posted by: Methos

Or dirt when they get buried under the old shed out back by accident.

Posted by: Aviator at January 10, 2021 07:35 PM (0FTCx)

120 Marcus I did not oil any of old mags but will try that and cycle them through to see if it helps.

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:35 PM (Cxk7w)

121 109....

Charlie Kirks gone Gray.

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 10, 2021 07:36 PM (Hd73Y)

122 I just made red velvet cupcakes. I am being very good!

Posted by: jmel at January 10, 2021 07:36 PM (bVhJi)

123 Regardless of who said it first, does anyone think it is a time to sell guns?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:36 PM (7bRMQ)

124 I think I should hand in my food too, while I'm at it. Canned cling peaches in heavy syrup could be interpreted as deadly weapons.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 10, 2021 07:36 PM (gm3d+)

125 Somehow I think my odds of finding primers again in the next 2 years (minimum) is approaching zero.
Posted by: Norman Spiny at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (C/oM9)

Try auctionarms and gunbroker. I have no idea if the prices there are fair, but they're there.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 10, 2021 07:36 PM (t+qrx)

126 We follow the law always and we are most loyal to the Democrat Party and to President-for-Life Biden.

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (nUhF0)

127 Hi, Weasel and Horde. I've been a bit down, the propaganda and gaslighting is getting to me more than usual. Weasel, I promise I'm going to email you (at your new address) before I go to bed tonight.

In the meantime I have a basic ammo question. I learned the difference between hollow point and FMJ in my basic pistol class. Other than that, and the caliber of my pistol, is there anything else I should consider when attempting to buy ammo? Just get whatever I can? (If I can find any!!)

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (k42hV)

128 The picture of the granddaughter's eyes lighting up just makes me smile to no end

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (Cxk7w)

129 Those grey man articles are dead on. I had almost this exact conversation with my wife yesterday, except (me being a Cobra Kai fan), I used the analogy of "brumination" - the reptilian version of hibernation, except the snake crawls into a hole and "doesn't sleep...he waits..." (paraphrased from Kreese in the show, season 2). Don't be the nail that sticks up - work, succeed, be happy - while the left turns on itself. That's my perspective, anyway.

Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (/A6g2)

130 80 Somehow I think my odds of finding primers again in the next 2 years (minimum) is approaching zero.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (C/oM9)

GunBroker. If your heart and wallet can stand a shock.

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (AMIL/)

131 Stern??? He's nothin' but a lowdown, double dealin', back stabbing larcenous perverted worm!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-_I_KOSEJs

Posted by: Tom Servo lear at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (V2Yro)

132 Regardless of who said it first, does anyone think it is a time to sell guns?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:36 PM (7bRMQ)

If anyone is panic selling, I'm buying.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 10, 2021 07:38 PM (AiZBA)

133 Sights are stuck and I'm afraid to mess with them
too much. After a bit of Kentucky windage, they both had nice offhand
groupings at 100 yards.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 07:08 PM (kTF2Z)

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cosmoline maybe? either that or corrosion.
-take a hair dryer on high to it, inverted, over news paper, and see if any melts out... i'll have to experiment and see if brake cleaner will dissolve it, as i have a few things with that gunk on them.
-for corrosion, any good penetrating spray ought to do it, like Liquid Wrench.

HTH!

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 07:38 PM (eWWz4)

134 Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (Cxk7w)
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Right?!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:38 PM (MVjcR)

135 "...does anyone think it is a time to sell guns?

What guns? I turned all mine in to Steampunk art.

Posted by: navybrat, in the bunker at January 10, 2021 07:38 PM (w7KSn)

136 Hey Weasel!

Wise words about not talking shit. It is so tiresome. If I want internet tough guys, I'll go to Twitter and watch the neckbeard soyboys share their violent revenge fantasies.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:38 PM (cfSRQ)

137 ...does anyone think it is a time to sell guns?

What guns? I turned all mine in to Steampunk art.

Posted by: navybrat, in the bunker at January 10, 2021 07:38 PM (w7KSn)

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Canoe accident. Terrible tragedy.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)

138 I thought he was pre-med?
Posted by: Duke Lowell

No, he is pre-law.

I thought you were pre-med?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 07:40 PM (ZCiJZ)

139 It really only encourages me!
Posted by: Weasel

I could have swore she was talking to me.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 07:40 PM (Rvt88)

140 Guns? Ex-wife took them all when she left with Paolo.

Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 07:40 PM (l3+k2)

141 Mid South shooters supply in Tennessee had some primers. Depends on what you're looking for.

Posted by: Hesco Gupsy, stating from 457 meters at January 10, 2021 07:40 PM (njahg)

142 So question can magazines go bad 35 years old? We know if stored fully loaded usually isn't a problem but my mags have been loaded and unloaded hundreds of times in that period.
Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:11 PM (Cxk7w)

loading and unloading is what degrades springs. If you start seeing failures to feed on mags that you have used a lot, look at replacing springs or trying to otherwise maintain them.

Leaving mags loaded, even at full capacity, won't cause malfunctions, in my experience.

All that said, new mags and springs are better than older designs.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:14 PM (uxJPn)

There's a metric shit-ton of videos on YT on this subject, from an engineers standpoint to physical examples of springs and degradation over the years. Bottom line is things happen, springs are springs and steel is steel. A small flaw will magnify over time. At least with something like a 1911, there's no shortage of available parts.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 10, 2021 07:40 PM (L8ADy)

143 We've all discussed how hard it is to find ammo and even components for reloading. I still got a shock this week on the matter. I was toying with the idea of loading shot shells with black powder, just as a fun project. I started checking various sites for plastic 12 gauge hulls, new or once fired. That ain't none around. Paper hulls are preferred for this and there are none in stock either. This surprised me as not a lot of people reload 12 gauge shells. Buying by the case is often cheaper than reloading.

I happen to have some old hulls in the garage so it isn't a problem. But the fact that there aren't any available surprised me. I hadn't realized the shortages had gone that far.

BTW, I like using a 12 ga. SxS muzzleloader but in trap or skeet it is too slow to reload. Not fair to folks using conventional guns and ammo.

Posted by: JTB at January 10, 2021 07:40 PM (7EjX1)

144 Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (CM8Oa)

No.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 10, 2021 07:41 PM (Ynlay)

145 117....

In the Soviet Union, Gray Man laid low for over 70 years. 25 million murdered and 30 years since perestroika, they've upgraded...to Vladimir Putin.

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 10, 2021 07:41 PM (Hd73Y)

146 Do not respond and do not copy the asshole, please.
Posted by: Ben Had

This is Ace of Spades.

You will have to be a little more specific.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 07:41 PM (ZCiJZ)

147 Great thread, again, weasel!

I guess maybe I'll have to plug my local range sometime in the near future.

With that said, Range report: IDPA...to be cont.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:41 PM (WEBkv)

148 If anyone is panic selling, I'm buying.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 10, 2021 07:38 PM (AiZBA)

Nah, not really planning on it, but if you're in a household with only one shooter and you have an abundance, should you consider selling and making money with people panic buying?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:41 PM (7bRMQ)

149 Weasel, thanks for that opening lecture - I was hoping you'd give one. I'll forgive you for being entirely too gentle in your wording. I'll just add that "stupid" also applies to many of the commenters in question, and I don't mean in a a tactical, or it's-ace's-place sense, I mean dictionary sense.

And based on my complete lack of authority or standing, allow me to cordially invite everyone who absolutely has to share their bad info, and dumb "insights", on the current situation, to wait for another thread (unless directly gun-related, of course).

Posted by: Incoming NSC and State Dept. at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (OTzUX)

150 Barrel length: 5.5 inch or 8 inch?
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I read the "5.5 inch or 8 inch?" first and thought you were asking about black-powder muzzle-loading howitzers or mortars! I was going to have suggested a perrier so you'd never run out of shot but then read the "Barrel length" part!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (ab0zp)

151 Everyone needs a plan when the Bolsheviks go full retard.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (+Kpte)

152 Hey there Weasel!! Howdy fellow gun nuts....
No range trip thus far in 2021. Which sucks so far..
I love shooting wadcutters...I shoot them out of a variety of S&W revolvers, but a few years ago I was able to pickup an "inexpensive" model 52 target pistol that is made to shoot "mid range" 148 grain wadcutters. It was cheap ish because it is well worn... It has the best trigger of any hand gun I have ever shot. It has an interesting history, being sold out of government service at Guantanimo bay...
I am with Jim SND, a chap I have yet to meet. In the correct hands wadcutters are my secret weapon.
Love the kids 22. I still have the Remington 580 my old man bought me in 68 to stick a finger in the eye of the gun controllers and the 68 Gun Control Act.
That started my lifelong fascination with rimfire rifles, a cheap ish part of gun collecting....

Posted by: Jesse in DC at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (Yp3Ga)

153 GunBroker. If your heart and wallet can stand a shock.

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (AMIL/)

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One of my hobbies is tracking prices/sales and hoo boy!

It's interesting to see what prices are spiking and what aren't.

Regarding ammo shortage/inflated prices, I think a lot of it is people doing a bit of arbitrage - buying online or retail and reselling at panic-fueled auctions.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (cfSRQ)

154 This is gonna get interesting. BUT, I moved my Kayak from storage to the marina today. This is not a joke. Gonna have to do some minor repair work before taking her out. ThanX! for the vidy on guns in bags. (THIS is said only slightly jokingly)

BTW, is the Horde aware of the availability of 410 and 22 adapters for ARs? I've got 'em, haven't used 'em yet

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (Iw46i)

155 Hey, A.H.
I read your book.
Damn, fella, you've got some serious gray matter going on.
A fantastic read, very scholarly and engaging.
I will work up a review.

Posted by: navybrat, in the bunker at January 10, 2021 07:43 PM (w7KSn)

156 From my very limited firearm experience, I think you can get away with using old ammo on a bolt- action rifle and a revolver.

But using old ammunition on a semi-auto pistol (or similar) can cause problems, because the powder may not have enough power to push back the slide and eject, making the cartridge "stove pipe" in the ejection slot.

That happened to me some years ago, firing an old semi-auto with pretty old ammo.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 07:43 PM (ZCiJZ)

157 Great thread Weasel! Just sent you an e-mail on my new and improved proton mail account! Also bookmarked the gun thread address.
My main concern right now is how do I keep the Stasi/Gestapo/KGB from coming in and collecting my firearm collection. They won't do me much good if they're in some far away location for safekeeping.Every totalitarian regime in history, the first thing they do is disarm the populace.

Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at January 10, 2021 07:43 PM (VNmG1)

158 Gun and ammo prices are not going to drop any time soon. Money in the bank.

Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (l3+k2)

159 67 Sorry about Logan, MAE.

How many magazines should one have? Naturally the default Horde answer is MORE but practically speaking, one can only carry so many, so say, three plus a few spares at home? This is with a pistol in mind, I recognize one would have several more for a rifle.
Posted by: Retief at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (SWlro)

Thanks Retief

Minimum: 3 mags for pistols

Better: 10 mags, esp. for rifles. Prices are still cheap, for now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (uxJPn)

160 should you consider selling and making money with people panic buying?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:41 PM (7bRMQ)

only to a worthy buyer, imo

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (nUhF0)

161 In the Soviet Union, Gray Man laid low for over 70
years. 25 million murdered and 30 years since perestroika, they've
upgraded...to Vladimir Putin.

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 10, 2021 07:41 PM (Hd73Y)

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If the Ukrainians had 20 million privately owned firearms, I think the Holodomor would have gone differently.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (cfSRQ)

162 ...does anyone think it is a time to sell guns?
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What guns? I turned all mine in to Steampunk art.
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Canoe accident. Terrible tragedy.

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Or - again - sell them for cash.

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (yblBL)

163 I shot IDPA yesterday, plus my CCW qualification.

IDPA was fun as I decided to go all out practicing and hang the scores. So, one round, scenario, I went all heads shots, no matter the range, then, another head then torso.

I shot well, in fact, the head shot scenario was great, I double tapped the heck out of the targets, even a non threat target! Yeah, okay, that was a mistake and, as one of my so-called "friends" said, "Definitely a non threat after two to the head!" Yeah, yeah yeah, you could at least admire the shooting....

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (WEBkv)

164 Sell guns? what a concept, I just buy them.

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (iBg56)

165 Saw a very nifty brass-catcher at the range last duty day. Guy had it on some kinda spendy Weasel-world custom long-range rifle. It wasn't the little Caldwell basket-looking thinggy, it was more like a little box, with rigid plastic frame, that swings away from the rifle to empty. Of course I forgot the name - I asked the guy.

Tell you what, I could use a brass catcher for my CZ-83. Thing throws cases about 35-50 feet, not exaggerating, I measured once. 380. Definitely my "longest thrower" of the whole set.

Posted by: Incoming NSC and State Dept. at January 10, 2021 07:45 PM (OTzUX)

166
The picture of the granddaughter's eyes lighting up just makes me smile to no end
Posted by: Skip

I wanted a Liberty Mutual policy for Christmas but all I got was this dumb old gun!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2021 07:45 PM (63Dwl)

167 Posted by: Jesse in DC at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (Yp3Ga)
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Howdy amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:45 PM (MVjcR)

168
Hey, A.H.

I read your book.

Posted by: navybrat, in the bunker at January 10, 2021 07:43 PM (w7KSn)

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Thanks! Isn't it interesting that the Spanish Left also deposed a leftist president after the election to put in a more radical one?

The parallels are eerie.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:46 PM (cfSRQ)

169 Been thinking about getting into reloading, but I'm a total noob. Finding components is next to impossible, but even various reloaders are hard to find.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 10, 2021 07:46 PM (Ynlay)

170 Old ammo. Like Weasel said, properly stored, good surplus is good for a very long time.

Guessing the average vintage of my small pile of 54R for the Mosin is 1979 or so. After probably 2K rounds, not a one with a problem. Soviet quality, comrade!

Posted by: Incoming NSC and State Dept. at January 10, 2021 07:46 PM (OTzUX)

171 The popularity of guns among this crowd is as much about the 2nd Amendment as anything, and the 2nd Amendment is really about the 2nd paragraph in the Declaration of Independence. I guess it's time to rip that old rag out of its special case and start redacting a few things before somebody gets any ideas.

I don't see why he's talking about expanding this feature; what he's saying only means he should be running a Going Out of Business sale. How dare he even suggest something as subversive as "Buy ammo"? For what? For when you're forced to go serve in the American version of the Red Army, BYOB (bring your own bullets)?

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 10, 2021 07:47 PM (hOOi9)

172 Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:41 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks, Blake!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:47 PM (MVjcR)

173 only to a worthy buyer, imo

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (nUhF0)
Thanks for the input Herr Frau Doktor Professor vmom! There's a man in Florida who....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:47 PM (7bRMQ)

174 Overall, though, I was pleased with my shooting, as I finally figured out why I was dropping shots low. Got that figured out, and the rounds were going where expected.

CCW qualification went well, I get another two years of carrying in CA, fortunately, the gal who did my qualification card didn't see my "two to the head" on a non threat target.

From there, more tuning up of the aperture sights on the K31 and boy, do those sights perform on that rifle. My plan is to take the K31 rig to SLOSA, high Robyn! and shoot a High Power match with it. We shall see.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:47 PM (WEBkv)

175 Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at January 10, 2021 07:43 PM (VNmG1)
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Thanks, OB!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:48 PM (MVjcR)

176 This is Ace of Spades.

You will have to be a little more specific.
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That was a shot at me, wasn't it, Bozo??!!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 10, 2021 07:48 PM (ab0zp)

177 Sell guns? what a concept, I just buy them.

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (iBg56)
Rodney Dangerfield in caddy shack "they're selling? Buy, buy! They're buying? Keep keep. I'm pretty sure he said that. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 10, 2021 07:48 PM (9Om/r)

178 Went to the desert and shot up the place.. Heidi bought a nice hanging steel target set up. Guys next to us shot everything. We Nic'd them Tiki Bar because they had pineapples as well as other fruits set up on a pallet. The group to the right of us we name The Watermelon Gang. Coupla babes and a guy they offered us one.

I practiced drawing from holster. Also shot the Ruger 10/22 At long range targets that other shooters left including TV's, watermelons, and plastic bottles. Fun. The scope for the 22 arrived today so I'm trying to get Heidi to take a day off.

Most times we go shoot in the desert we meet really nice folks.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 07:48 PM (Dz5W3)

179 I should clarify that the range my sons took the Mosin to is only accessible via canoe. You know what happened on the way back? Damnedest thing.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 07:48 PM (kTF2Z)

180 I truly wish I could leave where I live right now. I would prefer to ride out the next couple of years in Texas or Florida.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 10, 2021 07:49 PM (mcfjc)

181 I have been selling my pistol collection since August as I get older I got to let some things go on to other folks. No panic selling just a fact of life.
I shoot them one last time to check function, clean them, then list for sale on GunChoker. Old, surplus stuff mainly and odd calibers but people have been buying for their collections. It's been an education but fun. Saying goodbye to old friends is kinda sad too. My surplus rifles will be next after I glean thru my pistols.

My next purchase will be my last......M16A1 full auto. A good investment and may be needed for the burning times. I will be reuniting with an old friend.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 07:49 PM (R/m4+)

182 Old ammo? I have a bunch of 1980's Norinco 762x39. Both of my AR's eat it up.

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (iBg56)

183 Since some folks are in pure panic mode, a quick reminder...

During the height of Pandemic Panic, the State of Michigan tried to shut down a small-town barber.

And failed. The Governor, Attorney General, State Police, pushed all their chips on shutting down this one old dude. And failed.

Be not afraid.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (cfSRQ)

184 Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 07:48 PM (Dz5W3)
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Nice, bro! Howdy to Heidi from me!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (MVjcR)

185 Having endured your lecture and how you treat people legit losing their minds over all this, I'm done with this place, too.
Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)

Ahhh,

A Flounce...how wonderful!

Don't let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya...

Posted by: browndog at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (BgMrQ)

186 "Finally, try and enjoy your life."

Always good advice. I'm demoing by bathroom and it is hugely relaxing. It gives me great joy.

Taking a sledge to things seems to have a cathartic effect.

Hmmm. . . I may be on to something.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (Rvt88)

187 "The parallels are eerie."
They've done this before. I've read their books too.

Posted by: navybrat, in the bunker at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (w7KSn)

188 Mags - three and a few spares per pistol is an absolute minimum. Look back to the days of $150 9mm pistol mags back in the early 2000's... Magazines get lost in use, you may need to cache stuff, etc. This is also why you should have been standardizing on a common platform. I don't care if you don't like Glocks - if the choice is between 2 per household member and 6+ mags per pistol or a smaller number of other pistols with more expensive/less common mags and parts, you pick the Glock. There is no pistol of the same caliber whose performance is going to be better enough to offset having fewer of them.How many you can carry is a poor yardstick. You will always have situations where you want to carry 2x as many, or literally stack every mag you can fill in front of you. And again... think long term. You may be looking at no legal magazines over the counter for decades for you and yours. If you can print usable mag bodies and followers and have OEM springs to use for a pattern, even better, you can divert funds elsewhere.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (EEVQU)

189 grammie winger: was it you who was being told by your kids that you can't have firearms any more?

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 07:51 PM (eWWz4)

190 @179 attacked by a rabbit?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2021 07:51 PM (gDJlP)

191 On old ammo, as weasel mentions, I ran into something a bit interesting with old ammo versus new ammo: I shot some old surplus M1 ammo out of Pakistan not long ago, and while it shot consistently, it shot low compared to the newer stuff I have.

I'm not sure if it was due to slight degradation or just not as hot a round as my newer stuff. M1 still functioned perfectly, though.

For what it's worth.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:51 PM (WEBkv)

192 Blake, did you do much work on your K31 sights? The first time I shot mine was at an old hub cap I put up the side of a hill at an unknown range and hit in in the middle. Probably the best first shot I ever made.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:51 PM (7bRMQ)

193 I am grey. I stand between the candle and the star. We are grey. We stand between the darkness and the light.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 10, 2021 07:52 PM (9Om/r)

194 179 attacked by a rabbit?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2021 07:51 PM (gDJlP)

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And not a hand grenade in sight....

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:52 PM (WEBkv)

195 Weasel @71 - LOL! Perfect. Very Jesse Kelly-ish ju-jitsu.

VIA - "Somehow, he walked out of the local gun shop with a case of .308."

Hold-up?

He found oil or gold deposits in his back yard?

Posted by: Incoming NSC and State Dept. at January 10, 2021 07:53 PM (OTzUX)

196 Surplus Indian .308 ammo shoots well enough

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2021 07:53 PM (gDJlP)

197 Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)

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someone i don't remember ever commenting is quitting the HQ?

how sad.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 07:53 PM (eWWz4)

198 blake, I checked around and they make all kinds of gel filled butt- plates.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2021 07:53 PM (zemAi)

199 Of course I forgot the name -- I asked the guy.
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Was it this one??
https://tinyurl.com/yyynd2ws

Posted by: andycanuck at January 10, 2021 07:54 PM (ab0zp)

200 I am gray...at least my roots are.

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at January 10, 2021 07:54 PM (nUhF0)

201 Somehow I think my odds of finding primers again in the next 2 years (minimum) is approaching zero.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at January 10, 2021 07:25 PM (C/oM9)

Some guy on calguns was offering to trade a pretty sweet piece for primers. It must be bad. Of course in CA I'm surprised they haven't just outlawed them and no doubt that's coming real soon.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 10, 2021 07:55 PM (L8ADy)

202 I posted earlier - internet sales of all gun items - firearms, parts, ammo - are on the Biden Harris list. This Congress will do it.

Buy now.

Posted by: Sec State Brad Raffensperger at January 10, 2021 07:55 PM (ZfRYq)

203 blake, I checked around and they make all kinds of gel filled butt- plates.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2021 07:53 PM (zemAi)

Ah, you let the cat out of the bag. Now all the women will be wanting them implanted in their butts........

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:55 PM (7bRMQ)

204 I see his point on wadcutters and snub nose handguns, not my situation.

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:55 PM (Cxk7w)

205 To all facing the ammo shortage, or wanting to get started in reloading, I recommend getting to know your local online gun forums, or places "for sale" ads are physically posted.

This will vary tremendously by location, obviously.

But if you're in an area with a decent gunned-up population of any size, there is turnover.

Patience. I bought most of my guns and half my reloading set-up and components this way. Prices right now will usually not be bargains (what I was usually staking out). But often there will be some supply, for the vigilant. There are always people moving, getting out of the hobby, looking to raise $, etc.

Posted by: Incoming NSC and State Dept. at January 10, 2021 07:55 PM (OTzUX)

206 The communist death democrats have already started their final assault on our Second Amendment in the House. See below:

H.R.127 - To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.
117th Congress(2021-2022)
Sponsor: Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18] (Introduced 01/04/2021)

The death democrats are daring us to resist. They want a war with us.

REMEMBER the republicans in Congress and State Governments did this to We the People.

The republicans have helped the death democrats to seize power. Traitors.

Posted by: Junius at January 10, 2021 07:55 PM (HVtHJ)

207 >>blake, I checked around and they make all kinds of gel filled butt- plates.
Posted by: Ben Had

I'm interested!

Posted by: Brie Larson at January 10, 2021 07:56 PM (0FTCx)

208 Blake, did you do much work on your K31 sights? The first time I shot mine was at an old hub cap I put up the side of a hill at an unknown range and hit in in the middle. Probably the best first shot I ever made.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 07:51 PM (7bRMQ)
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I bought some after market Diopter sights for my K31 and have spent a couple of range trips getting them dialed in.

I've got a photo of a target I set up at 77 yards, all I could get in the bay, rifle was shooting just the left of center, and that portion of the target was obliterated.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:56 PM (WEBkv)

209 Always good advice. I'm demoing by bathroom and it is hugely relaxing. It gives me great joy.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (Rvt8

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Now is a great time to unplug and focus on small things going on around you. I find I'm taking more pleasure in little moments, conversations, a sunny day, things like that.

This thread is a place to "geek out" with obscure knowledge or get basic questions answered. Be not afraid.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:56 PM (cfSRQ)

210 I can't even post the innocuous comment I was going to make. It would be completely harmless but could be warped into something else. I do not want to live like this.

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 07:56 PM (t/MPE)

211 CNC machines might become a hot commodity.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2021 07:57 PM (gDJlP)

212 Nice, bro! Howdy to Heidi from me!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (MVjcR)

Can't thank you enough Weasel, for what you've Already done and now preparing us to keep communicating in the future. Much appreciated amigo.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 07:57 PM (Dz5W3)

213 One of my hobbies is tracking prices/sales and hoo boy!

It's interesting to see what prices are spiking and what aren't.

Regarding ammo shortage/inflated prices, I think a lot of it is people doing a bit of arbitrage - buying online or retail and reselling at panic-fueled auctions.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (cfSRQ)

It looks like I am going to be buying some really expensive #209 shotshell primers on GunBroker tonight or tomorrow. For the Thompson Center muzzle loader rifle I plan to buy.

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 07:57 PM (AMIL/)

214 Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 07:57 PM (Dz5W3)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:57 PM (MVjcR)

215 the gray man doctrine buys you time in bad situations, when seconds count.
Posted by: BluesFish at January 10, 2021 07:34 PM (xibKI)

It sounds like that has become a very important thing to know about.

I'd never heard of it before, since this used to be America. Well, if the arrests (of black hats) start tomorrow, as has been claimed, maybe we can stop talking about such things. It's always darkest before the dawn.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 10, 2021 07:58 PM (hOOi9)

216 On the vid of shooting old ammo--one hopes that after that squib shot, the weapon was checked for barrel obstruction and simply wasn't shown.

If not, then this guy has more balls and less brain than anyone I've encountered lately. If this has already been covered, my apologies, didn't read the post first.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2021 07:58 PM (KATBx)

217 Always good advice. I'm demoing by bathroom and it is hugely relaxing. It gives me great joy.

Taking a sledge to things seems to have a cathartic effect.

Hmmm. . . I may be on to something.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (Rvt8

When I was doing kitchens and baths I was ripping out a kitchen in this one house. The woman walked into the room, almost tippy toe like. She sees my hammer and picks it up and asks "do you mind?" I said sure have at it. lol, she went ape shit on this one cabinet. She gave her body a shake like a dog coming out of water and says "I wanted to do that for years".

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 10, 2021 07:58 PM (9Om/r)

218 Range day today for rifle work and, by my count, my third range day this year.
Worked the DPMS Oracle AR10 chambered in .308 with an Athlon Argos BTR 6x24X50 The Oracle is DPMS's bottom end model so my expectations were pretty low.
Got it reasonably close to zero'd - I need a much better cheek weld so that will be my first modification (and will be a cheap fix with some styrofoam) - using surplus Lake City 147 grain ammo. With that, my best group was about 1 MOA, so not too bad for this carbine.
The next test was to run some better ammo through it and . . . got the same results. 1 MOA even with 168 grain Match grade ammo.
So, maybe the limit of the platform except . . . the trigger is awful. Really, really awful. I dropped at least two shots waaaiiiittttiiiinng for the grind of the trigger to finally break.
I think I can improve a small incremental bit on that gun with a new trigger kit. Finished the session by reaching out and hitting steel at 300 yards, so happy ending.
And, as for gray man strategies, I don't even try. People remember me decades after we've met. SiLs are all good at it. Me, I'm going for the Schindler derivation. Sure, I work for you. Honest!

Posted by: Long Running Fool at January 10, 2021 07:58 PM (Oa5xy)

219 �I can't even post the innocuous comment I was going to make. It would be completely harmless but could be warped into something else. I do not want to live like this.

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 07:56

You're in the wrong country.

Posted by: Just Saying at January 10, 2021 07:58 PM (SFPXh)

220 I posted earlier - internet sales of all gun items - firearms, parts, ammo - are on the Biden Harris list. This Congress will do it.

Buy now.

Posted by: Sec State Brad Raffensperger at January 10, 2021 07:55 PM (ZfRYq)

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Yep. .223 is at nearly $1 per round, but that will probably seem cheap in another six months. Well, assuming you could even buy 1000 to get it at that low price. I suspect we'll be limited to one box of 20 (maybe 50) per month, and only after FFL checks.

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 07:58 PM (yblBL)

221 So on the ammo buying questions:

1. Focus on major power calibers for your primary weapons (9mm, 45, 5.56, etc). If you can, standardize on one or two calibers and focus hard on that.

2. Get what you can

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:59 PM (uxJPn)

222 On old ammo, as weasel mentions, I ran into something a bit interesting
with old ammo versus new ammo: I shot some old surplus M1 ammo out of
Pakistan not long ago, and while it shot consistently, it shot low
compared to the newer stuff I have.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:51 PM (WEBkv)

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Old ammo is sometimes the only choice for an obscure caliber. It can also be good for practice or just to see how a firearms functions.

I wouldn't trust it for more than that unless the batch had proved reliable over repeated use.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:59 PM (cfSRQ)

223 On the vid of shooting old ammo--one hopes that after that squib shot, the weapon was checked for barrel obstruction and simply wasn't shown.

If not, then this guy has more balls and less brain than anyone I've encountered lately. If this has already been covered, my apologies, didn't read the post first.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2021 07:58 PM (KATBx)
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excellent point.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 07:59 PM (MVjcR)

224 "Finally, try and enjoy your life."

Always good advice. I'm demoing by bathroom and it is hugely relaxing. It gives me great joy.

Taking a sledge to things seems to have a cathartic effect.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 07:50 PM (Rvt8

I believe I misunderstand what you're saying about "demolishing a bathroom" being "hugely relaxing". Unless you're doing something I don't want to know about with the sledgehammer.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 10, 2021 07:59 PM (t+qrx)

225 Thanks to the guys suggesting I check gunbroker.com for primers. I will be sending you all a bill for my new underwear I now need...

Posted by: Norman Spiny at January 10, 2021 08:00 PM (C/oM9)

226 @Military.com

Lawmaker to Army Secretary: Investigate Troops Deploying To Inauguration for Domestic Terror Sympathies

The left isn't playing around.

Posted by: JROD at January 10, 2021 08:01 PM (0jZnq)

227 A friend posted this tragic story:

Contact mman1066
I am a mechanical genius!
#1 Post by mman1066 � Today, 13:18

"So I was cleaning my Luger and when I was done I pulled the trigger. Nothing. Removed side plate adjusted trigger spring reassembled and again, nothing. I spent about two hours fiddling with spring, watching Youtube videos and still no joy. Then it occurred to me to check something else and finally I was rewarded by that click. The safety was on the whole time."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 10, 2021 08:01 PM (+y/Ru)

228 blake, I checked around and they make all kinds of gel filled butt- plates.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2021 07:53 PM (zemAi)
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Yep, I looked around, but, I have to contour everything to the rifle butt, which will take some work.

More time consuming than anything. One of those fun things one encounters when shooting vintage rifles.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:01 PM (WEBkv)

229 Did I mention I picked up my CZ Scorpion on Tuesday? Well, I would have mentioned it before I suppose.

Guess what? Fucking California makes them make the folding stock unfoldable. Say wut? What is it, exactly that makes a weapon more of a danger if the stock can fold making the weapon (a carbine) 18" shorter? It just means I have to spend more on a GD case. Funny how everything they do really just screws over people without a lot of disposable cash.

I'll check into just removing it and getting a better one anyway - but still. I was surprised. I know they handicap all of our magazines, but this is just silly. BTW, I love getting extended mags with a gun that can only hold 10 bullets. I so want to leave this state.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 10, 2021 08:01 PM (L8ADy)

230 @Military.com

Lawmaker to Army Secretary: Investigate Troops Deploying To Inauguration for Domestic Terror Sympathies

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Read as: Trump voters

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 08:02 PM (yblBL)

231 someone i don't remember ever commenting is quitting the HQ?

how sad.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 07:53 PM (eWWz4)

Give the guy a break. This is only the third time this week he has quit. He needs three more before he graduates to flounce.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at January 10, 2021 08:02 PM (uxUoN)

232 Oh my bad on the sock

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:02 PM (ZfRYq)

233 Good evening Weasel and the rest of you lot-

I don't have anything to contribute because I won't go to the range while CO Gov Penis' mask edict is in place. Mask + safety glasses = fogged-up safety glasses. If I can't see downrange, what's the point.

But my firearms are well-maintained and at the ready. I'm going to start carrying all the time now.

Let's all head Weasel's advice about not saying dumb stuff on the blog. Thank you and good night.

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 10, 2021 08:02 PM (iTXRQ)

234 Wait, you mean to tell me I can't walk into someone else's house and pinch a loaf in the middle of the living room floor??

Harumph!

I'M OUTTA HERE!!!

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 10, 2021 08:03 PM (Ynlay)

235 I remember looking at the ammo we were using in Boot Camp thinking this shit is older than I am. Never had a problem with it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 08:03 PM (kTF2Z)

236 I wouldn't trust it for more than that unless the batch had proved reliable over repeated use.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:59 PM (cfSRQ)
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I think every single round I've used has gone "bang" and that was probably close to 1K rounds. However, I'm pretty much out of that ammo, as I wanted to use it up. So, on to newer stuff. Darn it.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:03 PM (WEBkv)

237 Back to the range next Sunday. Been out for two months at least. Hopefully they have .380 as I refuse to use my own stockpile.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:03 PM (IYHxL)

238 Thanks for the info, Blake. I'm just keeping the old sights, I'm not as mechanically inclined or gunsmithy like most here. I just usually shoot out in the desert at whatever stuff I bring as a target.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 08:04 PM (7bRMQ)

239 1. Focus on major power calibers for your
primary weapons (9mm, 45, 5.56, etc). If you can, standardize on one or
two calibers and focus hard on that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:59 PM (uxJPn)

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Counterpoint: if you have a more available caliber that you can use to practice, shielding the core ones, keep buying it - especially if it is cheaper.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:04 PM (cfSRQ)

240 Last thing just looked and it was $28.95 a box for 45acp fmj at the range in Pa.

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 08:04 PM (Cxk7w)

241 Give the guy a break. This is only the third time this week he has quit. He needs three more before he graduates to flounce.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at January 10, 2021 08:02 PM (uxUoN)

No, no, no...

That there was a FLOUNCE.

I know a flounce when I see one...and that was it!

Posted by: browndog at January 10, 2021 08:04 PM (BgMrQ)

242 heed- sorry
I tripped over the homophone

everybody make homo phone jokes now. Limit 50.

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 10, 2021 08:04 PM (iTXRQ)

243 Guns and Boobs

https://tinyurl.com/y25835rz

Posted by: kbdabear at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (qAR6u)

244 I believe I misunderstand what you're saying about "demolishing a bathroom" being "hugely relaxing".
Posted by: hogmartin

- That WAS the fun part. Taking out the pieces of the jetted tub and tiled backerboard was a monumental PITA.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (Rvt88)

245 Senile McCommunist Says He Will 'Defeat the NRA' While in Office.

https://bit.ly/2LAUNjQ

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (yQpMk)

246 Cannibal Bob, a couple of years ago when I got my 10/22, it came complete with a hard shell case, small steel target, and a Weaver scope. Because there's no where close that I can shoot over 25 yds, I took it off and just use iron sights. I do well enough at that range. If I had some where to shoot with more room, I might put it back on. Still love the gun.

Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (VNmG1)

247 Give the guy a break. This is only the third time this week he has quit. He needs three more before he graduates to flounce.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at January 10, 2021 08:02 PM (uxUoN)
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Jeff Flake posts here?

Or it is David French?

These "I'm really and truly leaving this time and really really mean it" people all sort of blend together.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (WEBkv)

248 95 ... "Thompson-Center muzzle loaders good?
Revolvers: Uberti or Pietta?
Revolver caliber: .44 or .36?
Barrel length: 5.5 inch or 8 inch?
A recommended make and model?"

Gref, Thompson-Center BP rifles are traditional and very well made. I have several. Look for used ones, probably in 50 caliber. Round ball for those is easier to find.

Pietta has improved in the last ten to fifteen years and often are a bit less expensive. Get an all steel frame, not brass frame, in 44 caliber and an extra set of nipples. With care, it will last for decades.

I prefer the longer barrels. They balance better for me and the longer loading levers are easier to use.

TO BE CONTINUED

Posted by: JTB at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (7EjX1)

249 Posted by: DB- just DB at January 10, 2021 08:02 PM (iTXRQ)
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Thanks and goodnight, DB.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (MVjcR)

250 Anonosaurus Wrecks @227 - I have done this. On the whole its better than the inverse.

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at January 10, 2021 08:06 PM (Iw46i)

251 95, (continued)

I prefer the longer barrels. They balance better for me and the longer loading levers are easier to use.

Suggestions: A T/C Renegade or Hawken in 50 caliber. I usually suggest starting with a percussion lock but caps are hard to find right now so a flintlock might be better.

For a pistol, look for a Pietta Remington 1858 New Army or Pietta Colt 1860 Army. Use 3F black powder for all of these.

Posted by: JTB at January 10, 2021 08:06 PM (7EjX1)

252 I know a flounce when I see one...and that was it!
Posted by: browndog at January 10, 2021 08:04 PM (BgMrQ)

Couldn't be a flounce. He only badmouthed Weasel and not all the CoBs. You have to badmouth all the CoBs to qualify as a flounce.

It's in the style guide!!!!

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at January 10, 2021 08:06 PM (uxUoN)

253 I've been dithering for a year but I've finally decided *not* to get a ccw coz of the whole try to fly under the radar thing

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at January 10, 2021 08:06 PM (nUhF0)

254 they make slip on gel pads, that you can move from gub to gub... very effective.

and just the thing for shooting old military rifles.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 08:06 PM (eWWz4)

255 I can't even post the innocuous comment I was going to make. It would be completely harmless but could be warped into something else. I do not want to live like this.
Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 07:56 PM (t/MPE)

Perhaps the only useful discussion left on here is learning about the concept of "Gray Man". I guess you don't have to be shut down to be shut down. Well, I guess that makes their job a little easier for them, they're need to go through some history before they find their excuse to march you off.

Say - I heard the insurrection act thing was invoked yesterday. I really have no idea if it's true, but that would make sense. I also heard that the statement from Trump thing was not a hoax, but was overcome by developing events (well, really, things had to be moved forward, rendering it moot). I can't guarantee that that's true either, but it was from the same guy who claimed the stuff about Italy, and that has turned out to be true - it's in the public domain now. But that granddaughter is as cute as a button!

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 10, 2021 08:06 PM (hOOi9)

256 My husband and I live in our rv and travel extensively all over the country. We are now contemplating how we will continue this in the coming year. We also have firearms with us in the rv and concealed carry permits for Arizona, Florida and South Dakota. Obviously we are on quite a few lists, but we are wondering if by being mobile, and able to live anywhere, we be an advantage. Should we still sell some guns and go down to two handguns and one long gun?

Posted by: megthered at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (SM/op)

257 Senile McCommunist Says He Will 'Defeat the NRA' While in Office.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (yQpMk)

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LOL, a bit late. The NRA already wrecked itself on its own. Thanks Wayne!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (cfSRQ)

258 I've driven by the Hogue range many times up there. Didn't realize there was a whole complex. Guys I know have gone to matches (ICORE?) up there, they love that trip - who doesn't, central coast, great area.

Question for Robyn Adkins, Blake or any other gun Moron in that area - are any of the military ranges still in use and available to civilians on that huge base (forget the name)? Hunter-Ligett?

Including that one range that is right along the 101 - back-stop is the hill, firing line faces away from the highway.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (OTzUX)

259 Counterpoint: if you have a more available caliber that you can use to practice, shielding the core ones, keep buying it - especially if it is cheaper.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:04 PM (cfSRQ)

I see your point.
But owning, as you do, a shit ton of guns, I find it better to focus on what I'm going to be carrying, even if it means spending more on ammo.

Each weapon is a little different and specializing will give better results than practicing, oh, with a Makarov when you might normally carry a S&W Shield.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (uxJPn)

260 230 @Military.com

Lawmaker to Army Secretary: Investigate Troops Deploying To Inauguration for Domestic Terror Sympathies

Military.com is was very pro Obama during his administration. They are part of the MSM. FyI

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2021 08:08 PM (gDJlP)

261 Nice thread Weasel!

Dittos on the comments section, I don't always participate but I try to keep an eye on things.

Posted by: rancherbob at January 10, 2021 08:08 PM (gtu9W)

262 Should we still sell some guns and go down to two handguns and one long gun?
Posted by: megthered at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (SM/op)

I'd suggest a long gun for you both, but I realize space may be a premium. Two pistols and one rifle/shotgun is better than none.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:09 PM (uxJPn)

263 1. Focus on major power calibers for your primary weapons (9mm, 45, 5.56, etc). If you can, standardize on one or two calibers and focus hard on that.

2. Get what you can
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:59 PM (uxJPn)

I've vacillated on this very subject. But yeah, I'm pretty much focused on 9mm right now. But, I want to have a few that can shoot whatever I might run across. I want to get a 1911 to replace the one a horrible relative conned my mother out of, to me that's the F150 of the gun world. I have a Colt that takes 357/32sp and a 10/22. Oh, and a 44 mag. So next up is a proper rifle. Friend wants to help me build an AR, so I need to decide if I want to go with 5.56 (I think I do) or 9.

The horrible part is I'm replacing a large collection that was entirely off the grid. I've told the depressing tale here a couple of times, but it hurts even more now considering the state of things.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 10, 2021 08:09 PM (L8ADy)

264 Posted by: rancherbob at January 10, 2021 08:08 PM (gtu9W)
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Howdy Amigo! Appreciate that!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:10 PM (MVjcR)

265 Senile McCommunist Says He Will 'Defeat the NRA' While in Office.

That must be his number one priority, then.

Posted by: Methos at January 10, 2021 08:10 PM (kOpft)

266 @Military.com

Lawmaker to Army Secretary: Investigate Troops Deploying To Inauguration for Domestic Terror Sympathies

The left isn't playing around.
Posted by: JROD

JAG officers will act as the Political officers did in the Soviet Army. People will be investigated (in the armed forces) for alliance to "white supremacist" organizations.

The whole "white supremacist/domestic terrorism" schtick is something the friendly FBI has been cooking on for several years.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 08:10 PM (ZCiJZ)

267 I finally got my inherited emm one into the gunsmith this week. The beloved benefactor did not believe it to be in shooting condition, and I am way too new to gubs to know whether he is right. So the professional will have it for a few weeks. I'll try to give a rundown of what I find out whenever I get it back. Anyone have a link or advice for a sissypad source?

Thank you for the gub thread, Sir Weasel!

Posted by: Catherine at January 10, 2021 08:11 PM (FXERY)

268 Duke Lowell @ 235- We shot WW II stuff (including 1911s) in boot camp in the 60s. Was not ok to use up the bomb-type ordnance that was laying around since WW II that was such a factor in the Forestall fire though.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:11 PM (em79L)

269 Glad CK sent more than the first picture.
Thought that brass catcher was made with 4x4s.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 10, 2021 08:11 PM (CZm2G)

270 I've driven by the Hogue range many times up there. Didn't realize there was a whole complex. Guys I know have gone to matches (ICORE?) up there, they love that trip - who doesn't, central coast, great area.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (OTzUX)

I didn't realize Hogue was down in Paso Robles until just recently when I was buying a grip. As far as I know, those bases are almost entirely defunct, but it would sure be awesome to be able to get access in there if possible.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 10, 2021 08:12 PM (L8ADy)

271 266...

I guess we'll all eventually be labeled as "Gray Supremacists".

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 10, 2021 08:12 PM (Hd73Y)

272 Posted by: Catherine at January 10, 2021 08:11 PM (FXERY)
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Hi Catherine! Plain ol' Weasel the Awesome is fine. And welcome to the gun thread! We'd love to see pics when you get the Garand back.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:12 PM (MVjcR)

273 JAG officers will act as the Political officers did in the Soviet Army. People will be investigated (in the armed forces) for alliance to "white supremacist" organizations.

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The new one is "Christian nationalist". Said another way, practicing Christians, or even just God-fearing people who might not go to church every Sunday but who have traditional morals and ethics.

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 08:13 PM (yblBL)

274 Each weapon is a little different and specializing will give better
results than practicing, oh, with a Makarov when you might normally
carry a SW Shield.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (uxJPn)

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My guns are resting at the bottom of several local rivers and one of the Great Lakes, thank you.

The notion is that you use both - cutting your core ammo use in half. The assumption is that you already have years of proficiency with the carry weapon, and it is very familiar to you. Things like grip, breath control, trigger pull, etc. are transferable between platforms.

In fact, switching often highlights features you might have overlooked and can allow you to correct bad habits that you thought were inherent in the gun. If you don't have a collection, swapping with friends at the range is a useful way to notice this.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:13 PM (cfSRQ)

275 LOL, a bit late. The NRA already wrecked itself on its own. Thanks Wayne!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (cfSRQ)

Your Welcome! Renew your membership now and get this free range bag, made in China, pure quality!

Now if you'll excuse me I have whores to entertain and expensive wine to pour.

Posted by: Wayne LaPenis, NRA Moneychanger at January 10, 2021 08:13 PM (R/m4+)

276 Grey is good.

Posted by: Gandalf at January 10, 2021 08:13 PM (l3+k2)

277 I bought a bunch ( several bandoliers of old, maybe WW1 old) Iraqi 303 british for the number 1 mk3 Enfields I had a while back. I assumed it was corrosive, and cleaned accordingly.
That stuff was awful. "click" 1,2,3 BANG!!! I think I shot a whole bandolier, then gave the rest away to someone to salvage the components for reloading.
That is the only ammo I have ever had anything like that happen with...50 or so years of shooting...

Posted by: Jesse in DC at January 10, 2021 08:14 PM (Yp3Ga)

278 Former lead range officer gave me about 30 rounds of 54R yellow-tip, which is heavy ball (182g) Soviet ammo.

Fired a few rounds. There was a slight, but noticeable, delay between trigger pull, and "bang" (well, boom). Very weird. I fired 3 or 4 of them, same thing every time, so in an abundance of caution, I pulled the rest (had just bought a press-mounted bullet puller for other reasons), put the powder on my vegetable garden, kept the projectiles, and fired the primed cases next range trip.

Checked the powder - no visible issues, and no smells. Weird.

Only time the surplus ammo has been anything other than perfect.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:14 PM (OTzUX)

279 230 @Military.com

Lawmaker to Army Secretary: Investigate Troops Deploying To Inauguration for Domestic Terror Sympathies
Read as: Trump voters

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 08:02 PM (yblBL)

Soon I expect to see TV ads from a lot of corporations, proclaiming how they denounce white supremacists and their supporters (Trump voters), and people protesting against the legitimate transfer of power and the Biden Administration. Not violent white supremacists and protestors - all people in those categories. I also expect sportsball leagues to do something to show their hatred of white Trump supporters. Super Bowl commercials may all be screeds of pro-BLM and anti-Trump-supporter messages. I hope I am totally wrong.

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 08:14 PM (AMIL/)

280 278 do those use corrosive primers?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2021 08:14 PM (gDJlP)

281 Wow, sounds like Robespierre has risen from the grave.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 10, 2021 08:14 PM (KAi1n)

282 Whoa - Jesse in DC, I was writing my comment as you were writing yours.

So - gun gurus - what's up with the "delayed" bang? I am not aware of anything that would explain this, but it appears to be a "thing" (Jesse's experience, and mine).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:15 PM (OTzUX)

283 Including that one range that is right along the 101 - back-stop is the hill, firing line faces away from the highway.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:07 PM (OTzUX)
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The 1400 yard range is on the opposite side of the freeway from Cuesta College. It looks to me like the range is built on part of what used to be Camp San Luis Obispo.

This reminds me, I need to head further toward San Luis and see if the old wrecked half track is still on the hill on the North side of the highway. That thing was used for target practice, way back when.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:15 PM (WEBkv)

284 Heading out early, guys and gals. Hoping to get the "all clear" from the doctor after being split from navel to sternum. Be safe, stay sane. Weasel, I'll shoot you an mail to the new addy. ThanX! for the entertainment

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at January 10, 2021 08:16 PM (Iw46i)

285 Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:15 PM (OTzUX)
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goofy primer?

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:16 PM (MVjcR)

286 Military.com is was very pro Obama during his administration. They are part of the MSM. FyI

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Military.com has been a regular cesspit even after Jugears was gone.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 10, 2021 08:16 PM (Ynlay)

287 117th Congress(2021-2022)
Sponsor: Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18] (Introduced 01/04/2021)

Has Texas taken to strong(er) drink?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 08:16 PM (87oRe)

288 I don't think the quality difference between Uberti or Pietta is significant enough to be a consideration. Selecting a Remington because of the top strap strength rather than a Colt with open framing is more important, though.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (KATBx)

289 If I can't find 9mm defensive ammunition locally should I just get more range ammunition?

Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (TdMsT)

290 Posted by: McGyver at January 10, 2021 08:16 PM (Iw46i)
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My pleasure! Thanks pal.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (MVjcR)

291 Weasel did you get the old ammo pic I sent?

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (t/MPE)

292 That was a shot at me, wasn't it, Bozo??!!
Posted by: andycanuck

Oh, take off, you hoser!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (ZCiJZ)

293 Interesting commercial about Freedom by Egard Watches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXw6S5jHJ5w&feature=emb_logo

Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2021 07:07 PM (dWwl

***********
Excellent! We need to support companies like this.
I will be buying one for me or a gift.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (NpAcC)

294 So - gun gurus - what's up with the "delayed" bang? I am not aware of anything that would explain this, but it appears to be a "thing" (Jesse's experience, and mine).
Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:15 PM (OTzUX)
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Bloke on the Range mentions it during his video with Lindy Beige doing a "mad minute video" Old primer was the culprit, from what I remember.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (WEBkv)

295 Your message was quite contradictory

Posted by: rick9911 at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (iKjcG)

296 Anyone have a link or advice for a sissypad source?

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There's a gas plug that replaces the factory one that will allow you to safely shoot modern ammo. This probably isn't the only one, but it's a place to get started:

preview.tinyurl.com/y6o7ebqc

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (yblBL)

297 If I had some where to shoot with more room, I might put it back on. Still love the gun.

Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at January 10, 2021 08:05 PM (VNmG1)

the green- yellow iron sight on the 10/22 are awesome. e did pretty well even at longer distances. I'm just into busyng gun stuff while we can. Now more mags over advice here.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (Dz5W3)

298 Weasel - thank you brother. For everything you do.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:18 PM (IYHxL)

299 The horrible part is I'm replacing a large collection that was entirely off the grid. I've told the depressing tale here a couple of times, but it hurts even more now considering the state of things.
Posted by: clutch cargo

I feel you. Grandpa was a serious collector. One of the outbuildings had them stacked in the corners four feet deep. There were over 100 serviceable rifles of every cal and of every description that were given away by the executrix of my Grandpa's estate. He specifically bequeathed them to his grandsons in his will.

There were maybe 200 more in various non-firing condition that found their way to the state police for destruction.

No one talks to her anymore. Imagine that.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 08:18 PM (Rvt88)

300 Weasel did you get the old ammo pic I sent?
Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (t/MPE)
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Pretty sure I did. My apologies to you all - I am WAY behind on my correspondence.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:18 PM (MVjcR)

301 DB, the range I shoot at in Broomfield, Shoot Indoors, has the mask requirement through the door, but on your lane, you don't have to wear the mask.
On ammo, I just bought 200 rounds from a place down in Buckeye, Az and I thought I was just getting .556 range ammo. When it arrived it was all green tip. But it was a pretty good price, $150.00 that included shipping for 200 rds.

Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (VNmG1)

302 If I can't find 9mm defensive ammunition locally should I just get more range ammunition?
Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (TdMsT)
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Yes.

At this point, any ammo is better than no ammo.

However, shoot the range ammo as much as possible to see if there are any reliability problems.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (WEBkv)

303 I'd like to get better sight for my Glock 13 and 26.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (Dz5W3)

304 I finally stocked up on Ammo.
Yay me!

Posted by: redridinghood at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (NpAcC)

305 Couldn't be a flounce. He only badmouthed Weasel and not all the CoBs. You have to badmouth all the CoBs to qualify as a flounce.

It's in the style guide!!!!
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80

I have never met Weasel, and maybe never will. Several other posters at AoS have met Weasel and attest to him being a truly great guy.
I appreciate reading this and learning. I really don't know that much about firearms in general.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (ZCiJZ)

306 Yes, I think Hogue's home is SLO area. However one of their major facilities is down here, 1/4 mile from the border, in Otay Mesa. I've told the story before, ordered grips for the King Cobra featured on one of Weasel's first gun threads, they didn't fit, turned out the place near here is one of their main facilities - I went in and they let me pick my choice from several, in thanks for finding the error. Also gave me some swag and a little tour. Very nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (OTzUX)

307 That is the only ammo I have ever had anything like that happen with...50 or so years of shooting...
Posted by: Jesse in DC at January 10, 2021 08:14 PM (Yp3Ga)

Yup.......never buy ammo made in Arab/Muslim countries.

I once bought a few hundred rounds of French 7.5 X 54mm made in Syria.

None went bang. Still have them in coffee cans somewhere.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (R/m4+)

308 Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:18 PM (IYHxL)
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My pleasure, amigo.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (MVjcR)

309 I've been grey forever.
I'm going full camouflage now. It would be really funny to get a "Not MY President " sticker and make it look old.

Not carrying. I have pepper spray and a taser for self protection. I suspect downtown seattle will pretty much go downhill with lawlessness from the hobos.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:20 PM (U2p+3)

310 Over the past 3 months I've been selling off a bunch of guns. These are ones that have no sentimental value and mostly excess. I figured cash in hand now is better than the Feds taking them away later. If push comes to shove, I'm WAY too old to run around in the woods. They will have to come to me!

Posted by: oldgeezer at January 10, 2021 08:20 PM (Wb5vb)

311 289 If I can't find 9mm defensive ammunition locally should I just get more range ammunition?
Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (TdMsT)

Yes. Range ammo is what you'll be using most of the time (at the range).

If you have to use it on bad guys, focus on the sights, put the bullets in the vitals and keep shooting until they go down.

FMJ will stop bad guys, it's just a touch easier with good defensive ammo. Heck, for some rounds (.380, .38 special, .32ACP) I prefer range ammo.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:21 PM (uxJPn)

312 Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2021 07:07 PM (dWwl8 )
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Excellent! We need to support companies like this.
I will be buying one for me or a gift.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 10, 2021 08:17 PM (NpAcC)

That is a good one. I expect that their bank tells them to take a hike, PP won't do business with them, and their IP turns them off. Just for starters.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 10, 2021 08:21 PM (L8ADy)

313 " I am WAY behind on my correspondence."

That's OK. Just wondering. I've got a story to go with it.

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:21 PM (t/MPE)

314 JTB - thank you for the black powder advice in 248 and 251. I will look into the T/C guns you suggested before I buy a muzzle loading rifle. I have only been looking at the T/C Bone Collector models so far.

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 08:21 PM (AMIL/)

315 If I can't find 9mm defensive ammunition locally should I just get more range ammunition?
Posted by: Ladyl

Yes.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 08:21 PM (Rvt88)

316 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (ZCiJZ)
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Thanks Bozo. Very nice to have you here.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:21 PM (MVjcR)

317 Mr Gray, the other gas plug to allow M1s to shoot commercial ammo is called a Schuster plug. You have to adjust it (not difficult). The GarandGear plug sounds even a bit easier, no adjustment required. Both are easy and work. Good solution for those with M1s who don't reload and haven't stocked up yet.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:22 PM (OTzUX)

318 That's OK. Just wondering. I've got a story to go with it.
Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:21 PM (t/MPE)
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Send it to me if you get a chance! I promise I will get to it eventually.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:22 PM (MVjcR)

319 I don't understand the point of badmouthing someone.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 10, 2021 08:23 PM (KAi1n)

320 I hear the M-25 Phased Plasma Battle Rifle in the 40 watt range is ideal for home defense. Anyone else have experience with it?

Posted by: T-800 infiltration unit at January 10, 2021 08:23 PM (gDJlP)

321 I'd like to get better sight for my Glock 13 and 26.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM

Do you know how rare Glock 13s are? ;-)

On the serious side, sight replacement is one of the first 'mods' any Glock should have. The local cop shop routinely asks you which sights you'd like installed while you wait at purchase time. There are many good ones you can choose from.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 08:23 PM (DMUuz)

322 Bozo, I'd slow your roll there.

Still kind of evaluating this Weasel guy.

Don't want to jump to any conclusions too quickly.

Gotta be careful these days.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:23 PM (OTzUX)

323 I hear the M-25 Phased Plasma Battle Rifle in the 40 watt range is ideal for home defense. Anyone else have experience with it?
Posted by: T-800 infiltration unit at January 10, 2021 08:23 PM (gDJlP)

Just what ya see, Pal.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2021 08:24 PM (yQpMk)

324 7 Horde summoned
Went to a indoor range to test my 1911 Colt as something was going on 2 years ago. Well cleaned and oiled and still was occasionally needing assistance to feed a new magazine.
Found out last couple days 2 old magazines, original and another 35 years old are giving a issue if full 7 rounds, 5 seems better. 1 new magazine feeds without a problem.
Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:04 PM (Cxk7w)

Are the feed lips for the problem mags appropriate to the type of bullets being shot?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 10, 2021 08:24 PM (8C7+r)

325 Ladyl -

Yes ! Something is better than nothing, much better.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 08:24 PM (pmEbq)

326 If push comes to shove, I'm WAY too old to run around in the woods. They will have to come to me!
Posted by: oldgeezer

Me too! Join me in the fighting hole. I think I've mentioned before we're the folks the young, hard men push the bad guys into during a L shaped ambush.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 08:24 PM (Rvt88)

327 I agree with Weasel that people have to treat the site with
respect. Everyone has their own opinions and they go there own way. I
can't tell someone what to think as this is the net. It is impossible
to get everyone going in the same direction.

I
have been reading this site for more years than I would like to recall.
I have been posting here for a couple of years and for sure there are
comments i don't agree with. Duh, that will always be the case.

But
Weasel is right that we are guests here. You don't go into a man's
house and put your feet on his table, raid his refrigerator, look into
his medicine cabinets, and go places you don't belong. That is a
paraphrase from a scene in the tv show Lost.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:24 PM (Ls0fP)

328 Over 25 years ago I figured the Navy Times was actually the Navy Enquirer and dropped my subscription.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:25 PM (em79L)

329 I have the Strikeman.
I like it a lot.
It has helped with using both eyes when aiming.
The correction in each of my eyes is very different, and I don't really have a "dominant" eye.
It also helps a lot with trigger control.
I dry fire a few times a week for 10 minutes or so.
It has made a big difference when I go to the range.
It is pretty easy to use - kind of annoying at first to get used to setting up the phone and target.
I highly recommend it.
YMMV

Posted by: No One at January 10, 2021 08:25 PM (ErdUZ)

330 Do you know how rare Glock 13s are? ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 08:23 PM (DMUuz)

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The other day someone told me that there are people who actually collect...Glocks.

Like, this is a thing. I was shocked.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:25 PM (cfSRQ)

331 All I use is hardball except for some .380 in XTP.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2021 08:25 PM (yQpMk)

332 blake thanks - had not seen that Bloke on the Range episode - though I have seen some of his stuff. His M1 videos are interesting, like how he demos things most people think are not possible with the M1.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:26 PM (OTzUX)

333 Several other posters at AoS have met Weasel and attest to him being a truly great guy.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM

As one of those posters, I happen to agree.

Posted by: WeaselDog at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM (DMUuz)

334 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 08:19 PM (ZCiJZ)

You are telling the wrong person. Tell the critic that. I have no problem with Weasel or any of the CoBs.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM (uxUoN)

335 Posted by: Catherine at January 10, 2021 08:11 PM (FXERY)

Well, no one has seemed to answer your question, so I, a nobody important or as skilled or knowledgeable about firearms as most people here will let you know my experience. I bought an off the shelf slip on butt pad for my aught three Springfield, which is chambered in 30.06, same as the standard M1. Previously, I shot my Savage 110 a few times without a butt pad and had a plate sized bruise for two weeks. I only shot five or six rounds.
I shot the Springfield over 40 rounds without one bruise or any pain. However it doesn't fit quite well. The M1 and Springfield are so heavy that you may not even need one, even if you're recoil shy. I never use one on the Garand. You also need to remember that if you put one on, the stock will be "longer" and it might affect your gripping and ability to sight in. If you have shorter arms you might find it hard to use the rifle comfortably, but you want to do what makes you happy and keep using the gun. Jus' my worthless two cents....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM (7bRMQ)

336 Hey everybody. Hey gun thread! Hey Weasel! And thanks for what you said about people who make violent threats here. I don't want to see anything bad happen to this blog.

"Day 32 of home schooling with Grandpa"

That's handy for the future as well.
"Maybe I don't FEEL like learning fractions!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM (L2ZTs)

337 @328 so one might say military.com was originally dodknobpolisher.com.

Posted by: T-800 infiltration unit at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM (gDJlP)

338 But
Weasel is right that we are guests here. You don't go into a man's
house and put your feet on his table, raid his refrigerator, look into
his medicine cabinets, and go places you don't belong. That is a
paraphrase from a scene in the tv show Lost.
Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:24 PM (Ls0fP)

You've never met my brother I take it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 08:28 PM (R/m4+)

339 Posted by: No One at January 10, 2021 08:25 PM (ErdUZ)
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Thank you! Great to know. Anyone else?

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:28 PM (MVjcR)

340 So sorry about Logan MAE!

If anyone has taken something I posted as offensive.......I apologize. I was there and my emotions are still running strong

Posted by: westminsterdogshow TRUMP WON at January 10, 2021 08:28 PM (/UQ/R)

341 Sponsor: Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18] (Introduced 01/04/2021)

Has Texas taken to strong(er) drink?

Houston. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 10, 2021 08:28 PM (qc+VF)

342 Over 25 years ago I figured the Navy Times was actually the Navy Enquirer and dropped my subscription.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:25 PM (em79L)

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Every time I see a headline where "Lawmaker calls for" something, I'm reminded of the "lawmaker" who was afraid Guam would capsize.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:28 PM (cfSRQ)

343 Speaking of feeding issues, I think I discovered that the 2 15-round mags I got during "freedom week" in CA last year (week when a court ruling suspended mag limits, temporarily) actually work fine with my "real" M1 carbine. They both have started seizing up with 3 rounds left on my Auto Ordnance repro carbine.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:29 PM (OTzUX)

344 blake thanks - had not seen that Bloke on the Range episode - though I have seen some of his stuff. His M1 videos are interesting, like how he demos things most people think are not possible with the M1.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:26 PM (OTzUX)
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Bloke on the Range is also partial to the K31. Which gives him mucho extra points in my book.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:29 PM (WEBkv)

345 T-800:

I never hear anything about it anymore, but there's supposed to be an American web suffix just for the military:

.mil

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 08:29 PM (L2ZTs)

346 FMJ was taking down bad guys for a long time before technological advancements gave us the modern defensive round. If it's all you have at hand, don't fret too much.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 08:29 PM (W4eKo)

347 I tripped over the homophone

everybody make homo phone jokes now. Limit 50.
Posted by: DB- just DB

You know how to homo phone, don't you? Just stick your finger in and rotate.

OK, it's a little dated.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 10, 2021 08:29 PM (+y/Ru)

348 Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 10, 2021 08:01 PM (L8ADy)

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the idiots ban features, because they don't know gubs. for instance, "flash suppressors". they think it hides the weapon signature, so you can't tell where the shots are coming from. what they know about gubs they learned from CNN, the NYT or Hollyweird...

the Sacto Clown Show.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 08:29 PM (eWWz4)

349 I can't give an opinion on the idea of buying or selling guns at this moment. Sure there is some panic buying going on. But is this an all time high or even a recent high? It seems to me there could be some panic selling, as in people who don't want to look like gun horders. If that is the case, that is pretty damn sad. The 2A says what it does and going from five guns to one won't make those who hate the freedom like you

Also, while there is a simple maxim about stocks that you sell when everyone is buying, and buy when everyone is selling. There is something about stocks that is different. The theory requires the idea that there will always be an open market to trade securities. But if you sell guns and later find you can't buy them back when things are more rational, it kills that argument.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:29 PM (Ls0fP)

350 Duncanthrax @ 321- First thing out of the Glock box, unless they come with AmeriGlo sights I change them out with Trigicons.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:30 PM (em79L)

351 As one of those posters, I happen to agree.

Posted by: WeaselDog at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM (DMUuz)

funny with that nic

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at January 10, 2021 08:30 PM (nUhF0)

352 The whole "white supremacist/domestic terrorism" schtick is something the friendly FBI has been cooking on for several years.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at January 10, 2021 08:10 PM (ZCiJZ)

Christopher "Antifa Is an Idea" Wray let the cat out of the bag when he claimed, in the midst of last year's rioting and political violence, "white nationalism" (I think that was his phrase) posed the greatest terror threat to the United States. Anyone who has a MAGA hat or paraphernalia will be a greater danger than Skank Omar's traveling terror band.

We are about to see a new version of The Alien and Sedition Act, and you are on the list.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 10, 2021 08:30 PM (puu6v)

353 Thanks Grammie. This is a new kind of pain, didn't expect this. I'll see him again, I sent him ahead to scout the way.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:15 PM (uxJPn)

Beautifully said, Mark, and I offer my condolences for your very real loss. FWIW, I lost my Toby over three years ago and still expect him to come around the corner with his fabulous grin and love of life!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 08:30 PM (87oRe)

354 Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM (L2ZTs)
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Howdy!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:30 PM (MVjcR)

355 You've never met my brother I take it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 08:28 PM (R/m4+)

the key quote was "for the first time". I missed that, oh well.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (Ls0fP)

356 Keltec P17. Love this pistol. Very accurate. Not my every day but very useful training tool.

Posted by: TwentytwoLR at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (YGKUq)

357 I know some Never Trumper Republicans who were like all that gun grabbing talk is scare talk they will never do that it is electoral bad news.

Virginians can attest that the Left will waste no time. They have 1 vote majorities in our legislature and they had gun bills stacked up on the runway so they were all in the legal process day 1.

They didn't pass everything they threatened. This year. I expect they will come back to it this year.

Dems will go for everything on the Biden Harris list. Assault weapons and high capacity mags sale bans. Background checks for all transfers. Buybacks for assault weapons. Ban on internet sales. Ammo taxes.

Don't know they will pass all of it. But they'll try.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (ZfRYq)

358 That's handy for the future as well.

"Maybe I don't FEEL like learning fractions!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM (L2ZTs)

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My daughter amazed her basic training cadre with her ability to low crawl and field strip an M-16. "Where's you learn that?" they asked.

"I had an interesting upbringing."

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (cfSRQ)

359 FGO A. H. Lloyd @ 330- I'm sitting right here.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (em79L)

360 Dems will go for everything on the Biden Harris list. Assault weapons and high capacity mags sale bans. Background checks for all transfers. Buybacks for assault weapons. Ban on internet sales. Ammo taxes.

Don't know they will pass all of it. But they'll try.
Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (ZfRYq)
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And politicians have already learned there are no consequences for ignoring the courts.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:32 PM (WEBkv)

361 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:12 PM (uxJPn)

I am sorry about Logan.
hugs

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at January 10, 2021 08:33 PM (nUhF0)

362 You've never met my brother I take it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 08:28 PM (R/m4+)

Or a Democrat politician...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 08:34 PM (87oRe)

363 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:12 PM (uxJPn)
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Yeah man, condolences on your pup.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:34 PM (MVjcR)

364 Went to a indoor range to test my 1911 Colt as something was going on 2 years ago. Well cleaned and oiled and still was occasionally needing assistance to feed a new magazine.
Found out last couple days 2 old magazines, original and another 35 years old are giving a issue if full 7 rounds, 5 seems better. 1 new magazine feeds without a problem.
Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2021 07:04 PM

Skip, IME, 1911s are more likely to suffer magazine-related issues. Old magazines even more so. Your's may just need a new spring, since they are feeding, just not 7.

Les Baer, who IMNSHO makes one the best 1911s, is notorious for shipping crappy mags with them. By the time you're on your second or third one, you just toss them, much like the sights on your second or third Glock.

Personally, I run Wilson or McCormick mags for 1911s.

Posted by: WeaselDog at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (DMUuz)

365 > DB, the range I shoot at in Broomfield, Shoot Indoors, has the mask requirement through the door, but on your lane, you don't have to wear the mask.....
Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid

Thank you for that tip- I will check them out. I'm in north Jeffco so that's close.

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (iTXRQ)

366 FGO A. H. Lloyd @ 330- I'm sitting right here.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (em79L)

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More power to you. Glad you found something to enjoy.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (cfSRQ)

367 blake - certain politicians (though they've had little need to ignore courts, unlike the current chief executive, who's never paused to obey them).

It's worse than that. The inferior courts have been ignoring SCOTUS (Heller) for years.

I can no longer entertain any optimistic scenarios on anything, but - all the pieces remain in place for actual progress on gun laws, in the courts - if Heller is enforced.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (OTzUX)

368 Great thread, Weasel. I remember getting to try one of my father's rifles for the very first time when I was about the same age as that little girl. It brought back nice memories.

Posted by: CN at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (ONvIw)

369 MAE

My most sincere condolences for the loss of Logan.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (TdMsT)

370 363 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 07:12 PM (uxJPn)
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Yeah man, condolences on your pup.
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:34 PM (MVjcR)

Thank you, sir

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:36 PM (uxJPn)

371 "You don't go into a man's

house and put your feet on his table, raid his refrigerator, look into

his medicine cabinets, and go places you don't belong."

And most of all, leave the shelves alone.

Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 08:36 PM (l3+k2)

372 Posted by: CN at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (ONvIw)
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Thanks CN. I love stories like that!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:36 PM (MVjcR)

373 78 Having endured your lecture and how you treat people legit losing their minds over all this, I'm done with this place, too.
Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)

Weasel is a gentleman and a scholar. Your absence will only enrich this thread.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:36 PM (M7K2y)

374 My most sincere condolences for the loss of Logan.
Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (TdMsT)

Thank you, LadyL

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:36 PM (uxJPn)

375 Don't know they will pass all of it. But they'll try.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (ZfRYq)

Makes me wonder about the outcome of every election I have voted in since at least 2000.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 08:36 PM (87oRe)

376 these things w*rk GREAT!

http://www.shooterpads.com/

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 08:37 PM (eWWz4)

377 My most sincere condolences for the loss of Logan.
Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (TdMsT)

Thank you, VM

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:37 PM (uxJPn)

378 Wilson mags (1911) are very nice. I mostly use surplus ones I got from CMP a few years back, and some Brownell's 8-rounders, but finally stocked up on Wilson mags when Brownell's had a sale on them. Use those in matches, and a couple never leave the "home defense" mag collection.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:37 PM (OTzUX)

379 I've not been to the range since before thanksgiving I think.

Hopefully next week. And then a short road trip.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:37 PM (U2p+3)

380 FGO A. H. Lloyd @ 330- I'm sitting right here.
Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM

Well, *I* wasn't going to say anything about that. In your case, it's just a small peccadillo in an otherwise sterling character.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 08:38 PM (DMUuz)

381 Posted by: Sucks to be you at January 10, 2021 08:36 PM (+rtGv)

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someone is looking in a mirror and repeating their self-affirmation for us to laugh at.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2021 08:38 PM (eWWz4)

382 I can no longer entertain any optimistic scenarios
on anything, but - all the pieces remain in place for actual progress on
gun laws, in the courts - if Heller is enforced.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:35 PM (OTzUX)

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Counterpoint: I do not have the time or energy to keep coming up with new nightmare scenarios. Instead of worrying what might happen, I'm going to watch and see what actually happens.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:38 PM (cfSRQ)

383 How about Silicon Valley based Stripe saying Trump can't use them for payments anymore? How about Forbes: https://tinyurl.com/yxptelcv going after anyone that worked for Trump.

Advanced Fascism 201

Posted by: jeff at January 10, 2021 08:38 PM (J2JqR)

384 Beautifully said, Mark, and I offer my condolences for your very real loss. FWIW, I lost my Toby over three years ago and still expect him to come around the corner with his fabulous grin and love of life!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 08:30 PM (87oRe)

Thank you. I can't imagine what 3 years of missing Logan will be like.

I'm sorry about Toby, too.

And I'm sorry for you, too, CN.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:39 PM (uxJPn)

385 Sorry for the loss of your pooch, MAE.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:39 PM (WEBkv)

386 So this is not a gun question so sorry for the off-topicness but: With ProtonMail, do I need to download all my old emails before I download ProtonMail?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:39 PM (946rW)

387 MAE, I'm so sorry about Logan. Sending hugs your way.

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 10, 2021 08:39 PM (k42hV)

388 I'm going to make a list of all gun shops in the area and begin a round robin every day buying what ammo they may have.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (Dz5W3)

389 Counterpoint: I do not have the time or energy to keep coming up with new nightmare scenarios. Instead of worrying what might happen, I'm going to watch and see what actually happens.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:38 PM (cfSRQ)
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Know your AO.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (WEBkv)

390 *throws dog biscuits to Horde*

Good Horde.

Please continue to ignore the you-know-what when it appears, until Weasel can obliterate it.

Don't quote it, don't respond to it, don't repost its data. Don't even acknowledge it. Much better that way.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (OTzUX)

391 So sorry to hear about Logan, MAE.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (pmEbq)

392 Instead of worrying what might happen, I'm going to watch and see what actually happens.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January

Even better would be to take a break from paying attention and focus on family and friends and ones own health and happiness.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (U2p+3)

393 340 So sorry about Logan MAE!
...
Posted by: westminsterdogshow TRUMP WON at January 10, 2021 08:28 PM (/UQ/R)

Thanks, Cyclone

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (uxJPn)

394 Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 08:37 PM (OTzUX)

back in the day, if your 1911 was not reliable, the first thing you tried was a new Wilson mag. $30 is a lot but better than spending a lot of time with a gunsmith. Sure it wouldn't fix non mag related problems, but often the problems were mag related.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (Ls0fP)

395 Folks, hangfires and other bad events such as stuck bullets in the bore from old ammunition are caused by component deterioration.

Smokeless powder has stabilizers regarding acidity and also burn rate controlling chemicals added (sometimes flash suppressant and chemicals to lessen copper fouling as well). As the powder ages, the acidity stabilizer is literally consumed and the end result is an acrid fuming mess that can spontaneously combust under the right circumstance. Nasty stuff and it won't fire worth a damn if it is siginficant portion of the powder in the cartridge. Second, the burn rate controlling chemicals, as it deteriorates, the burn rate of the powder can go up or down which can generate a bunch of pressure in a hurry (kaboom) or a low and slow or even not enough pressure to send the bullet out of the barrel (if followed by another then kaboom). The hangfires are usually where the primer lacks enough brisance to instantly light enough powder in the cartridge. Potassium chlorate primers can absorb water and do this. (Dump any mercury primed cartridges--which are nearly 100 years old or sell it to an ammo collector. Not safe to fire).

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (pO7gM)

396 Also the strike man trainer up there looks VERY similar to iTrainer Pro. The target holder is almost exactly the same. The phone holder is a separate tripod which would resolve the holder issue I noted on iTrainer Pro last gub thread.

But it means placing it may be more problematic. One thing these trainers need is a stable level place at the right height to put it for practice. The iTrainer Pro is a single unit.

Price is the same. Wonder what additional laser bullets cost.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (ZfRYq)

397 Can anyone else get to Secondcitycop? I tried to go there and it takes me to gooble.

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (t/MPE)

398 So this is not a gun question so sorry for the off-topicness but: With ProtonMail, do I need to download all my old emails before I download ProtonMail?
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:39 PM (946rW)
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No worries. I'm not really sure. I didn't download anything, but rather just signed up for an account on their site.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (MVjcR)

399 391 So sorry to hear about Logan, MAE.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (pmEbq)

Thank you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (uxJPn)

400 Thanks! Isn't it interesting that the Spanish Left also deposed a leftist president after the election to put in a more radical one?

The parallels are eerie.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:46 PM (cfSRQ)

No kiddin. Well, first, the President would not allow the duly elected Spanish right (CEDA) to form a government, but once the Popular Front came in, well, hey, they can form a government, no problema!

Then HE got deposed by the Popular Front.

You hit the nail on the head. Eerie parallels, indeed.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (M7K2y)

401 Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:39 PM (946rW)

redbanzai, this is KAOS, ve don't off topic here!

Posted by: Siegfried at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (7bRMQ)

402 Prayers up for Mark and his canine friend Logan.

Losing a dog hurts so friggin bad, I'm sorry for all that go through it.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (6mvRv)

403 Like the Yugoslavia, a CZ83 or 82 make nice training and plinking guns too.

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2021 08:42 PM (Xih1H)

404 397 Can anyone else get to Secondcitycop? I tried to go there and it takes me to gooble.
Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (t/MPE)

"Open to invited users only", now

It's happening.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:42 PM (uxJPn)

405 You think they are going to let us keep this place just because we play nice and dont say mean scary things? We are well beyond that, 100% total censorship has begun and its proceding exponentially. The president of the united states has been deplatformed and censored by tech oligarchs and the MSM, completely bypassing congress or any level of checks and balances. Its too late.

Posted by: KarlHungus at January 10, 2021 08:42 PM (I0oUO)

406
Now would be a good time to do an expose on the preferred guns of the Democrat party's anitfa. Remind everyone how antifa took over street intersections with AR-15s (?) and pointed those "assault" rifles at people in cars.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 10, 2021 08:42 PM (fyOvJ)

407 399 391 So sorry to hear about Logan, MAE.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (pmEbq)

Thank you.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (uxJPn)

Easily the most depressing days of my life are those when I lost my dogs.

You have my sincere condolences. I don't care what anyone else says, dogs are family.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:42 PM (M7K2y)

408 "392 Instead of worrying what might happen, I'm going to watch and see what actually happens.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January

Even better would be to take a break from paying attention and focus on family and friends and ones own health and happiness.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (U2p+3)"

Sums up the plan at Chateau D'Eez pretty well.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 08:42 PM (pmEbq)

409 * checks watch*

Do I get a tardy slip?

Regarding your opening rant Weasel, I would have to admit some guilt. Not any specific threats, I don't operate that way in the grey boxes or in the meat world , but expressing my anger, definitely. Many of us here have admitted our errors. Don't hesitate to keep reminding us to keep the perspective on the big picture. When they come to shut this site down they won't be concerned about having a legitimate reason. Support Ace now if you are able with both $'s and prayer. Thanks for the thread partner.

Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (fM0Dq)

410 402 Prayers up for Mark and his canine friend Logan.

Losing a dog hurts so friggin bad, I'm sorry for all that go through it.
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (6mvRv)

I appreciate it.

He was such a big part of my life, it's like a....hole. Like losing a limb.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (uxJPn)

411 back in the day, if your 1911 was not reliable, the first thing you tried was a new Wilson mag. $30 is a lot but better than spending a lot of time with a gunsmith. Sure it wouldn't fix non mag related problems, but often the problems were mag related.
Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (Ls0fP)
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Side note, spend the money on stainless mags, if at all possible. They tend to just drop free without any extra effort after the mag release button is pressed.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (WEBkv)

412 Weasel, just sent you a short video of son at range. Not for publication, but just to hear that rifle roar.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (kTF2Z)

413 Can anyone else get to Secondcitycop? I tried to go there and it takes me to gooble.

I have a message that it is only accessible to invited users. I guess they're turtling up.

Posted by: Methos at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (kOpft)

414 78 Having endured your lecture and how you treat people legit losing their minds over all this, I'm done with this place, too.

Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)

OMG, No! Don't leave! Please! Who are you again?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (Dz5W3)

415 No worries. I'm not really sure. I didn't download anything, but rather just signed up for an account on their site.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (MVjcR)

OK, someone once told me there are no stupid question but I am going to be an inquisitive idiot. How do they secure stuff more than say yahoo?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (946rW)

416 FUCK

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (t/MPE)

417 Looked at strikeman site their laser cartridges are the same price $59.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (ZfRYq)

418 Weasel, thank you very much for the gun thread and all you do here. Bookmarked your site. Thanks also for the clarification or enunciation about stuff. Although I have lurked the content for more than a decade, the comments and commenting are relatively new. Good to hear the rules again.

Posted by: MikeM at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (KomcD)

419 I'm still trying to locate a basement in Louisiana?

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (2DOZq)

420 Easily the most depressing days of my life are those when I lost my dogs.

You have my sincere condolences. I don't care what anyone else says, dogs are family.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:42 PM (M7K2y)

Thanks.

Owning a dog really changed my life for the better. He taught me to be a better person.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (uxJPn)

421 Even better would be to take a break from paying attention and focus on family and friends and ones own health and happiness.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (U2p+3)

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I'm doing that as well, also reconnecting with old friends, getting more involved in parish life. I haven't felt this good in months, honestly.

The storm is coming and I can't stop it, so I'll just let it come and stop worrying.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (cfSRQ)

422 Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (fM0Dq)
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my pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:45 PM (MVjcR)

423 To continue,
Water vapor and heat are enemies of ammo (handling can be which is why I do not like to tumble old ammo to get the corrosion out).

Higher exposure to water vapor or liquid without sealed primers can cause misfires to older potassium chlorate primers. The newer stuff (lead styphanate) dunno about the lead free stuff, can be contaminated by overoiling your firearm. Oil can get into unsealed primers and cause a dud round or a bullet stuck in the bore. Tumbling CAN cause the flake or stick powders to break into smaller pieces which can cause issues on burn rate primarily. Last, high temperatures deteriorate smokeless powder by increasing the rate of the acidic nature of powder breaking down the stabilizing chemicals. Double based powders WILL deteriorate faster than single based.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 08:45 PM (pO7gM)

424 Weasel's opener makes me realize that if this carp goes bad, and it will go bad soon, this thread and this whole blog will be attacked. It's what the left does, and with the backing of bigTech/bigGov/deepState and the 'media' we could rapidly have our forum and even our comms cut. Sobering thought. And here I was wondering how I would make it through the diversity awareness training, which I never thought I'd see again one I retired from bigNav.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:45 PM (em79L)

425 Good grief. The Browns are crushing the Steelers. It would seem that 2021 is not much different than 2020, so far.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 08:45 PM (W4eKo)

426 OK, someone once told me there are no stupid question but I am going to be an inquisitive idiot. How do they secure stuff more than say yahoo?
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (946rW)
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We're going to have to wait for a smart person to answer that!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (MVjcR)

427 I'm going to make a list of all gun shops in the area and begin a round robin every day buying what ammo they may have.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:40 PM (Dz5W3)

Yup......I round robin the pawn shops in my AO and always ask the owners to call me when something interesting gun or ammo wise comes in. Get to know them and they will be a good source. I bring them TV's, furniture and other crap from my properties left behind by deadbeats from time to time and give it to them for free as an added incentive.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (R/m4+)

428 I hate to make early predictions, but if the Browns keep rolling up points on the Steelers, we might see VictoryDeepVCollar.

Posted by: Vichy Downcast at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (p+kDw)

429 This blog could be gone tomorrow. I hope you are ready.

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (t/MPE)

430 I know plenty of people are freaking out about current events. But I will say this: we STILL have state governments.

Yeah, the TX Legislature is far from perfect, but I don't see them doing anything to curtail the gun rights enshrined under the TX Constitution. Which should be a saving grace.

I think we might re-discover federalism on this and other issues.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (M7K2y)

431 FUCK

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (t/MPE)

WHAT

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (946rW)

432 287 117th Congress(2021-2022)
Sponsor: Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18] (Introduced 01/04/2021)

Has Texas taken to strong(er) drink?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 08:16 PM (87oRe)
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It's a dedicated Gerrymandered district.
When she retires it will go to Quanell X.
really

Posted by: Braenyard at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (CZm2G)

433 Mark, sorry hearing about losing your best friend. He is out of pain now so my prayers and good thoughts directed to you.
I know you will miss him.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (pO7gM)

434 Redbanzai, archive your old mail in something like MailHome, then only transfer your recent mail to proton that might need ongoing follow-up. I would ttansfer my address book manually- use this as a time weed.out old communists and unsavory relatives.

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2021 08:47 PM (Xih1H)

435 One final note before I sign off.
I did finally get my CZ-75 into the FFL. Just dealing with waiting period now. It's probably my last gun purchase barring a miracle....but it's a damn good "final" purchase. The outside is scratched and beat up, inside its mirror bright, though.

Looking forward to trying it out, and letting the Nurse try it and show me up.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:47 PM (uxJPn)

436 Mark,
I hope to get that hug next week. You're a fine man and I'm so sorry about Logan. What a handsome, good doggo he was.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:47 PM (U2p+3)

437 Posted by: MikeM at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (KomcD)
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Thanks man.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:47 PM (MVjcR)

438 Redbanzai ProtonMail operates under Swiss privacy rules. Email is encrypted in your mailbox. If you have to reset your password (not a regular change a forgot and reset) all old emails remain encrypted. You lose them. ProtonMail to ProtonMail emails is encrypted end to end.

There is no facility to import your old emails from another platform I don't think. You have to download from the other platform and close that account if you want.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:47 PM (ZfRYq)

439 Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM (qFDRX)

OMG, No! Don't leave! Please! Who are you again?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (Dz5W3)

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Andy, have a seat over there with Sidney, Clayton, Mohammed, and Jugdish. Don't forget to help yourself to punch and cookies!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 08:47 PM (kTF2Z)

440 And belated condolences to MAE on the loss of your pal. Hang in there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (W4eKo)

441 I've had good luck with Kimber mags, both 7 and 8.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (t+qrx)

442 433 Mark, sorry hearing about losing your best friend. He is out of pain now so my prayers and good thoughts directed to you.
I know you will miss him.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (pO7gM)

Thank you, Whig. Yes, he doesn't have pain and he's running around now, I'm sure. Galloping around, waiting for me, I hope.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (uxJPn)

443 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (R/m4+)

Thank you. My list got longer.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (Dz5W3)

444 This blog could be gone tomorrow. I hope you are ready.

Posted by: f'd at January 10,�

It was a good run.

Posted by: There is no Plan B at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (SFPXh)

445 Secondcitycop is using gooble to log in. How long do you think that will last?

Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (t/MPE)

446 Am I going to have to learn how to access the dark web?

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (2DOZq)

447 I hope to get that hug next week. You're a fine man and I'm so sorry about Logan. What a handsome, good doggo he was.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:47 PM (U2p+3)

Yeah, let's plan on it.

He was just...the most beautiful dog. So good to me. My boy...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (uxJPn)

448 Once the wife and baby is out of the hospital. It is rifle time. Yes, I am on a budget. Under 700. Any suggestions?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (IYHxL)

449 Has AtC checked in? She must jumping up and down in excitement - her browns are al over the Steelers.

Posted by: IC at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (Nyumu)

450 I'm going to bail a little early to catch up on some reading.

Thanks again Weasel!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (cfSRQ)

451 Sorry y'all.

The Empress must be losing her shit.

Browns up 21-0 in the first quarter.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (U2p+3)

452 Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 08:43 PM (kTF2Z)
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roger

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (MVjcR)

453 440 And belated condolences to MAE on the loss of your pal. Hang in there.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (W4eKo)

I thank you

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (uxJPn)

454
I think we might re-discover federalism on this and other issues.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (M7K2y)

Lmaooo

Posted by: GOPe state legislatures at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (SFPXh)

455
Andy, have a seat over there with Sidney, Clayton, Mohammed, and Jugdish. Don't forget to help yourself to punch and cookies!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 08:47 PM (kTF2Z)

I like that line.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (Dz5W3)

456 Thanks Jean and blaster!

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (946rW)

457 Mark, just checking in and saw the news about your Logan. My condolences. He is waiting for you just over that bridge.

Posted by: IC at January 10, 2021 08:50 PM (Nyumu)

458 266: JAG officers will act as the Political officers did in the Soviet Army. People will be investigated (in the armed forces) for alliance to "white supremacist" organizations.

I heard it said somewhere that a political officer in the Soviet military was the equivalent of a chaplain in the U.S one. (Commies love to substitute God for the State.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:50 PM (M7K2y)

459 I've loved my dogs more than anything in my life. Losing them were some of the worst days ever. I'm with you, only one thing to do Get a Puppy. It's not a cure but it's as good as it gets.

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 08:50 PM (iBg56)

460 Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:31 PM (ZfRYq)

Virginia in 2018 was GA in 2020. I still say some don't appreciate how huge 2018 was. I think that election year was the most important we have had in a long, long time. Doesn't matter now though, as it is now history.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:50 PM (Ls0fP)

461 Mark. My deepest condolences.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 10, 2021 08:51 PM (Dz5W3)

462 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (cfSRQ)
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Goodnight! Thanks amigo.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:51 PM (MVjcR)

463 28-0 first quarter

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:51 PM (U2p+3)

464 Redbanzai ProtonMail operates under Swiss privacy rules. Email is encrypted in your mailbox. If you have to reset your password (not a regular change a forgot and reset) all old emails remain encrypted. You lose them. ProtonMail to ProtonMail emails is encrypted end to end.

There is no facility to import your old emails from another platform I don't think. You have to download from the other platform and close that account if you want.

Posted by: b

right, the same privacy laws that allowed the cia to own the swiss encryption corporation that provided to services to foreign governments from the end of ww2 until they were exposed this year.

so there it that.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 08:51 PM (4Jold)

465 I did finally get my CZ-75 into the FFL.

Looking forward to trying it out, and letting the Nurse try it and show me up.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

You will love it!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2021 08:51 PM (Rvt88)

466 I personally hope that Ace and this site either have overseas servers, or are migrating to them.

I wouldn't trust any American tech company with anything anymore.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 08:52 PM (L2ZTs)

467 Once the wife and baby is out of the hospital. It is rifle time. Yes, I am on a budget. Under 700. Any suggestions?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (IYHxL)
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Hmm, maybe look at a military surplus rifle?

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 08:52 PM (WEBkv)

468 A final thanks to everyone. It means a lot.

I put up a obituary up on my website, some pictures of my boy up there...not enough. He hated the camera as much as I do

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:52 PM (uxJPn)

469 Nurse, I like what you said about disconnecting from politics and connecting with family and life around you. I've been trying to do that and I've definitely been happier these last few days. Am trying to go an entire week day without listening to the news or reading blogs and not engaging in political talk in the office. It's a hard habit to break but sanity demands it.

Posted by: IC at January 10, 2021 08:52 PM (Nyumu)

470 28-0 first quarter

I'm in a (good) state of shock.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 08:52 PM (W4eKo)

471
I've had good luck with Kimber mags, both 7 and 8.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 10, 2021 08:48 PM (t+qrx)

same here. Kimber makes a very good product. I might go with Wilson a bit more because they "fixed" a few guns for me. But there is nothing wrong with Kimber for sure.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:52 PM (Ls0fP)

472 451 Sorry y'all.

The Empress must be losing her shit.

Browns up 21-0 in the first quarter.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (U2p+3)

My kids and their spouses must be ecstatic.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 08:53 PM (TdMsT)

473 Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (IYHxL)

Maybe look into a lever gun?

Posted by: Siegfried at January 10, 2021 08:53 PM (7bRMQ)

474 and then as the foundations of freedom and democracy were destroyed from within they gathered around the internets to watch football and enjoy the blm jerseys.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 08:53 PM (4Jold)

475 Weasel's opener makes me realize that if this carp goes bad, and it will go bad soon, this thread and this whole blog will be attacked. It's what the left does, and with the backing of bigTech/bigGov/deepState and the 'media' we could rapidly have our forum and even our comms cut. Sobering thought. And here I was wondering how I would make it through the diversity awareness training, which I never thought I'd see again one I retired from bigNav.
Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:45 PM

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y58ud462

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 08:53 PM (DMUuz)

476 "I personally hope that Ace and this site either have overseas servers, or are migrating to them"

Peruvia. That's like overseas of overseas.

Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 08:53 PM (l3+k2)

477 Would everyone please stop freaking out already.

TRUST THE PLAN.

Posted by: Trust the Plan at January 10, 2021 08:53 PM (Twn1P)

478 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:50 PM (M7K2y)

Just rewatched a documentary on Stalin. How did the world survive with the three most evil people in History being alive at the same time?

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 08:54 PM (2DOZq)

479 Prayers up Mark. I can unfortunately relate . My 15 + year old buddy Markus Barkus Rufus Dufus O'Malley is telling me he's about done. We're not sharing any walks now just a lot of scratching behind the ears and quiet conversations. My day is going to empty when he leaves but I don't want to see much more of him in pain.

Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 08:54 PM (fM0Dq)

480 428 I hate to make early predictions, but if the Browns keep rolling up points on the Steelers, we might see VictoryDeepVCollar.
Posted by: Vichy Downcast at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (p+kDw)

OMG

We might get VICTORY TITS after all!!!!

Posted by: browndog at January 10, 2021 08:54 PM (BgMrQ)

481 Am I banned? For what?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow TRUMP WON at January 10, 2021 08:54 PM (/UQ/R)

482 28-0 now

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 10, 2021 08:54 PM (6mvRv)

483 Would everyone please stop freaking out already.

TRUST THE PLAN.
Posted by: T

that is some 3d vulcan humor there.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 08:55 PM (4Jold)

484 The site HotFart is interesting lately.

A lot of the writers like Jazz Shaw, Karen Townsend and John Sexton (and maybe others?) seem to get how dangerous things are. Then there's Allahpundit and Ed Morrissey who both seem to do nothing but puff out their chests and put down the deplorables.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 08:55 PM (L2ZTs)

485 I shot well, in fact, the head shot scenario was great, I double tapped the heck out of the targets, even a non threat target! Yeah, okay, that was a mistake and, as one of my so-called "friends" said, "Definitely a non threat after two to the head!" Yeah, yeah yeah, you could at least admire the shooting....
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 07:44 PM (WEBkv)

Did you try the MiB "She was the only one that seemed dangerous at the time" line?

Posted by: Bete at January 10, 2021 08:55 PM (Ojki1)

486 and then as the foundations of freedom and democracy were destroyed from within they gathered around the internets to watch football and enjoy the blm jerseys.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 08:53 PM (4Jold)

Amazing, isn't it?

Let's support Twitter too!

Posted by: NFL SJW at January 10, 2021 08:55 PM (SFPXh)

487 My lights are flickering. I'm hitting the rack. Up at 0400. Good job, Weasel!

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:55 PM (em79L)

488 davidt, I'd prefer Antarctica.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 08:55 PM (L2ZTs)

489 Once the wife and baby is out of the hospital. It is rifle time. Yes, I am on a budget. Under 700. Any suggestions?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (IYHxL)

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$700 will open a lot of doors. AR platform? Setting aside the concerns with what's coming, it's hard to go wrong with the M&P, and they probably come in under that price.

Rifle-rifle I like Savage and the accu-trigger.

Don't overlook shotguns. You can find good ones for $300 or so, and slugs can reach out to 50+ yards. If I had only one choice for home defense it would be that.

Posted by: Mr. Gray at January 10, 2021 08:56 PM (HBEnm)

490 IC,
I love my friends here in grey boxes.
And it's hard not to see them for longer than a day or two. But my soul aches for my country. And I can't help her if I'm not mentally stable and in a good place.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 08:56 PM (U2p+3)

491 Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 08:54 PM (2DOZq)

Well, Carter, Hillary, and Ozero are still alive too....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 08:56 PM (7bRMQ)

492 I wish that ace had a Patreon so that I could auto-donate. I can't imagine what I would do without y'all, but I also seldom think of hitting the donate button

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 08:57 PM (kzzyk)

493 wife and baby is out of the hospital. It is rifle time. Yes, I am on a budget. Under 700. Any suggestions?
Posted by:

the thing is is you are not going to find what you want or need for that now, you should buy an arlower or two, from a good mfr and then buy the other bits as you find them.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 08:57 PM (4Jold)

494 sorry for your loss Mark. I had the unfortunate experiences of losing a few dogs as a kid. one time we lost an entire litter. We were just kids and my mom, siblings, and I were trying to save them but nothing could be done. I never think about that but it left a mark. That might be why I haven't owned a dog on my own in decades. And I love them and miss the companionship. It is what it is. I will own one again when the situation is right and I can give him a good home.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:57 PM (Ls0fP)

495 Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:55 PM (em79L)
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Thank you pal. 'Night!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 08:57 PM (MVjcR)

496 and then as the foundations of freedom and democracy were destroyed from within they gathered around the internets to watch football and enjoy the blm jerseys.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 08:53 PM (4Jold)

Not everyone is as perfect as you are Y5. You should know that by now. Shouldn't you?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at January 10, 2021 08:58 PM (uxUoN)

497 Yeah I don't understand the continued watching of the NFL but I don't understand a lot of things apparently.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 08:58 PM (2DOZq)

498 Those grey man articles are dead on. I had almost this exact conversation with my wife yesterday, except (me being a Cobra Kai fan), I used the analogy of "brumination" - the reptilian version of hibernation, except the snake crawls into a hole and "doesn't sleep...he waits..." (paraphrased from Kreese in the show, season 2). Don't be the nail that sticks up - work, succeed, be happy - while the left turns on itself. That's my perspective, anyway.
Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2021 07:37 PM (/A6g2)

Ha! Hubby and I are in jellyfish mode...floating along, bumping off obstacles, but also having a sting.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at January 10, 2021 08:58 PM (99Nt9)

499 Browns have twice as many points as the Steelers have plays

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 08:58 PM (YboWf)

500 454
I think we might re-discover federalism on this and other issues.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:46 PM (M7K2y)

Lmaooo
Posted by: GOPe state legislatures at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (SFPXh)

One: key word, "might".

Two: it depends on the issue. Fighting for gun rights will be a good red meat issue to get people to support you, so you can go back later, chalk up a victory, milk that for all its worth, and insist that every single other issue after that is "not the hill to die on".

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 08:58 PM (M7K2y)

501 Duncanthrax @ 475- Bookmarked, and thanks!

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2021 08:58 PM (em79L)

502 Virginia in 2018 was GA in 2020. I still say some don't appreciate how huge 2018 was. I think that election year was the most important we have had in a long, long time. Doesn't matter now though, as it is now history.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 08:50 PM (Ls0fP)

I realized today that the Progs have been wanting to turn Texas blue for reasons other than locking-up the Electoral College for the Dems. Without Texas state government making Texas one of a block of leave-the-union states, a successful secession movement is doomed. IMHO.

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 08:58 PM (AMIL/)

503 Plate of shrimp.

Posted by: Imperceptible Orchestra at January 10, 2021 08:59 PM (HKMU4)

504 386 So this is not a gun question so sorry for the off-topicness but: With ProtonMail, do I need to download all my old emails before I download ProtonMail?
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:39 PM (946rW)

Can you just email them from your old email to your new one?

Posted by: April, Freedom Now! at January 10, 2021 08:59 PM (OX9vb)

505 Well said, nurse.

What a dog Logan was ... thanks for that link.

and g'night everyone; thanks as always, Weasel !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 08:59 PM (pmEbq)

506 Not everyone is as perfect as you are Y5. You should know that by now. Shouldn't you?
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80

so in your mind, not giving revenue to football when they are deplatforming entire sites is perfect, yeesh that is a low bar there.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 08:59 PM (4Jold)

507 Thathalfrican I don't know your parameters on rifles but $700 will still score an AR but just barely. Complete upper and lower from PSA for $600 you need a rear sight or cheap red dot and a few mags you got your budget.

If you can find them I like the concept of the Mossberg MVP Patrol. Bolt action. I think the 5.56 takes AR mags. Doable for better than $700 still. And not likely to be banned if that's important.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 08:59 PM (ZfRYq)

508
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at January 10, 2021 08:59 PM (pmEbq)
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My pleasure, sock rat!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:00 PM (MVjcR)

509 Yeah I don't understand the continued watching of the NFL but I don't understand a lot of things apparently.

I grew up with the Browns. My Dad had friends on the team during the Jim Brown era. They would frequently show up at our house. I had season tickets for 15 years. Some old habits die hard.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 09:00 PM (W4eKo)

510 Y5-C5, whatever.

You do you. I'll do me. This is about freedom and being left alone to find ones own happiness, no?

Don't you dare tell me what I think or what I believe or what I support. If you want to know, ask. But you don't know.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:00 PM (U2p+3)

511 Thanks for the info, Blake. I'm just keeping the old sights, I'm not as mechanically inclined or gunsmithy like most here. I just usually shoot out in the desert at whatever stuff I bring as a target.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 08:04 PM (7bRMQ)
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Sorry for the late reply, just saw this.

The Diopter sights are easy to install. They come with simple instructions and even the allen wrenches needed!

Swiss Products out of MT. Seem to be great people.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:01 PM (WEBkv)

512 3 of my 4 sons now have multiple guns. The fourth is in Boot Camp. #Prouddad

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 09:01 PM (kTF2Z)

513 That is a great picture of home schooling done right.

Thanks for another great gun thread, Weasel. I scrubbed all your gmail accounts in my files.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 10, 2021 09:01 PM (u82oZ)

514 Look if riots are the new norm, I'd like just ONE decent Super Bowl riot before I die.

Posted by: Broseidon at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (icI8A)

515 Went shooting today. Mainly just to confirm stuff is working. I don't have the ammo to blow. I was suprised/annoyed to hear some doing ammo dumps, though.

Posted by: SamIam at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (iTCEE)

516 Once the wife and baby is out of the hospital. It is rifle time. Yes, I am on a budget. Under 700. Any suggestions?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM

What are you looking for? A Modern Sporting Rifle, soon to be not-approved by Robert Francis O'Rourke? A bolt-action?

The former will be difficult to come by. For the latter, some of the 'budget' rifles made by T/C, Ruger, Savage, etc. are close to tack-drivers for around $400. Some of the budget glass that punches well above its weight is around that price, as well. I've been contemplating putting together a sub-$1K rifle (that's all-up, including sling, bipod, and a few odd-and-ends) with the goal that Weasel might say after trying it at 600 "That'll do, rifle. That'll do."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (DMUuz)

517 Duke, good one, great Animal House reference.

Does your son use a recoil pad on the Mosin?

Some peoples' mileage apparently varies, but if I'm shooting 40-60 rounds or more (happens), no way I'm doing it without the pad. That steel butt plate is part of the weapons system on that rifle, not a style feature.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (OTzUX)

518 Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 10, 2021 09:01 PM (u82oZ)
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My pleasure, bro.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (MVjcR)

519 Yeah I don't understand the continued watching of the NFL but I don't understand a lot of things apparently.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 08:58 PM (2DOZq)

I get it to be honest. I hate the woke thing and their explicit choice to favor one hard left political movement over the thin majority that does not think that way. But I get it has been part of the culture for many decades. I get why it is difficult for some to give it up entirely.

I can see someone having issues turning the NFL off for life if they grew up with it, their city was enthralled by it, and they bonded with parents and friends over it. Certainly that is more difficult than dropping Amazon, Apple, or the latest app.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (Ls0fP)

520 Y5-C5, whatever.

You do you. I'll do me. This is about freedom and being left alone to find ones own happiness, no?

Don't you dare tell me what I think or what I believe or what I support. If you want to know, ask. But you don't know.
Posted by: n

who is telling you what you are thinking, I am just commenting about what you are doing

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (4Jold)

521 To clarify, I'm not worried, I don't need to take breaks, I am busy always with many other things - I was just pointing out (with a caveat the size of Manitoba) that the pieces are in place for courts to actually undo some present nonsense, as well as block new nonsense. That was all.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:03 PM (OTzUX)

522 Weasel, I finally emailed you back but I understand if my report isn't relevant anymore. I used your new address and I now have a new protonmail address as well, but I put my AOS nic in the subject line.

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 10, 2021 09:03 PM (k42hV)

523 Swiss Products out of MT. Seem to be great people.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:01 PM (WEBkv)

Ok, great, thanks for the info. I'm just an originalist I guess. I had a hard time justifying putting a Weber carb on my MG. Still wish I hadn't done it....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:04 PM (7bRMQ)

524 Look if riots are the new norm, I'd like just ONE decent Super Bowl riot before I die.
Posted by: Broseidon at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM

Dude. What do you thing the Capitol was?

Posted by: Congressional Dems & The MSM at January 10, 2021 09:04 PM (DMUuz)

525 Rhomboid, no butt pad, but he hasn't been putting more than 10-15 rounds down range at a time.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 09:04 PM (kTF2Z)

526 Posted by: screaming in digital at January 10, 2021 09:03 PM (k42hV)
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Thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:04 PM (MVjcR)

527 any predictions for impeachment-2:the Fequal

How do our stalwart house members play it? Will they do as well as the Steelers?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:05 PM (YboWf)

528 MAE, the only thing better than a dog is two of 'em. I've always had two, ask Weasel, 2 doggies make for an even happier home.

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 09:05 PM (iBg56)

529 519: indeed, everything you say makes sense. But when my Broncos said I'm with them or against them, I just figured I'd sit out the season. I may stay sitting out. If I have seen more than five minutes of football since February, I'd be shocked.

When they wish to take their customers into consideration they can give me a call. Til then...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:05 PM (M7K2y)

530 @527

I predict a swift impeachment, followed by the Senate never taking it up for a vote

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:06 PM (kzzyk)

531 Anyway, thank you for a great thread as usual, weasel.

I hope to see weaseldog next week! And I hope to get to the range and the mountains!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:06 PM (U2p+3)

532 Broseidon: back in the late 1970s/early 1980s there were I believe quite a few worries (and even a few movies) about a mass terrorism event occurring at the Super Bowl.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:06 PM (L2ZTs)

533 I think the 'push for' impeachment is theater to keep the mob riled up.

Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (l3+k2)

534 whig - thanks! The primer is the obvious candidate for my 7.62X54R yellow-tip malfunction. If a delayed ignition/hang-fire really is a malfunction. Not sure it affected performance, per se, though I would think the different burn rate/burn % from a low-brissance primer ignition would translate into lower energy for the bullet.

Obviously I knew those primers are hydro-philic, thus the need to remove the salts in the bore afterwards to reduce corrosion. Makes sense that with imperfect storage they might absorb moisture.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (OTzUX)

535 Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:06 PM (U2p+3)
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Thank you nurse! I'll try and come up with something!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (MVjcR)

536 no puss here. But I wonder if proton mail will become the new sign for righties. I am thinking about paying up and getting a different name for the email. Not saying this to wimp out, but we do have to protect ourselves. I got proton mail months ago but I don't email a lot. I can see a time where if you are not all in with big tech Lefties, people look askance at you.

Then again, there is a time when you have to say "go screw!".

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (Ls0fP)

537 By the way, I've been looking at the Mantis system as one very pro-gun radio host I listen to often won't shut up about it.

Anyone have any experience with it?

Mantisx dot com is the site for those interested.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (M7K2y)

538 THIS ISNT FUNNY! WE ARE GETTING FUCKING KILLED.

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (BIxaz)

539 more fun from the football game:

Browns 28 pts, 12 offensive plays

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (YboWf)

540 Saw some posts from an earlier thread that mentioned there have been 4 or 5 gun bills posted without text very recently. One of my concerns is they will limit our ability to order parts over the internet. Any suggestions from my more knowledgeable esteemed morons on a generic list of common repair parts to inventory?

Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (fM0Dq)

541 Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (Ls0fP)

Yes that was my position 12 months ago but the NFL doubled down to the point where now I just don't understand. But I still take the position to each their own if it doesn't harm me directly.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (2DOZq)

542 Ok, great, thanks for the info. I'm just an originalist I guess. I had a hard time justifying putting a Weber carb on my MG. Still wish I hadn't done it....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:04 PM (7bRMQ)
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You can buy K31's with original Swiss Diopter sights on them through Edelweiss Arms. If I had an extra $1,400, I'd be all over that deal.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:08 PM (WEBkv)

543 davidt, the hilarious thing is that now Clyburn and company are talking about having the Senate convict DJT *after* he's already out of office. That'll show 'im! :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:08 PM (L2ZTs)

544 McConnell could adjourn the Senate till Inauguration Day. He hasn't and won't. That says to me he would take up an impeachment trial.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:08 PM (ZfRYq)

545 532 Broseidon: back in the late 1970s/early 1980s there were I believe quite a few worries (and even a few movies) about a mass terrorism event occurring at the Super Bowl.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:06 PM (L2ZTs)

I see you saw Black Sunday.

I read The Sum of All Fears.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:08 PM (M7K2y)

546 On topic, I found 200 rounds of boxed, unopened .357 mag today on the upper shelf of a guest room closet. WTF? Oh, well...I'll take it. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 09:09 PM (W4eKo)

547 514 Look if riots are the new norm, I'd like just ONE decent Super Bowl riot before I die.
Posted by: Broseidon at January 10, 2021 09:02 PM (icI8A)

Bills / Browns

At The Worlds End

Posted by: browndog at January 10, 2021 09:09 PM (BgMrQ)

548 McConnell has given a timeline for a hypothetical trial, and it starts in the Biden administration

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:09 PM (kzzyk)

549
Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (fM0Dq)
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We talked about that a few months back. Spring kits and firing pins would be a good place to start.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (MVjcR)

550 If I had an extra $1,400, I'd be all over that deal.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:08 PM (WEBkv)

Hee Hee! I paid $99 for it originally. Not spending $1400 now....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (7bRMQ)

551 ProtonMail has been a staple for privacy bugs for a while.

It won't be a marker of being of the right.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (ZfRYq)

552 Just to remind people, the British government and people were convinced that Hitler would bomb and kill hundreds of thousands of Britons in air raids. They made preparations for mass graves and made paper mache coffins. After France fell, they faced Germany alone but had two institutions on their side--the RAF and the British Navy. Both delayed any thoughts on invasion until it was too late for Germany to pull off. The situation is not good but virtual world is not meatspace, mewling cucks in DC groveling for Dem acceptance there are not the norm. The corporations and oligarchs want China money but do not want an all out civil war that will basically kill their net worth and perhaps themselves. There are some other barriers--e.g. the Senate is 50-50 and a stupid impeachment will tie up and use valuable energy meaning that Biden cannot use the old let us come together rah rah. Pelosi is clinging to her speakership, PDT has put a lot of judges that have already been curbing the excesses of the COVID 19 restrictions. Gavin faces a recall in a state where Republican vote was only about 35-40 percent. Begin serious worry if the filibuster is nuked for court packing for gun bans.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (pO7gM)

553 Just catching up from this morning.

Posted by: Andy Stern at January 10, 2021 07:22 PM
Whut the hell is he talking about?
That's all on that.

Secondly, Jim, I have a line on the scope you recommended, keep fingers crossed I win the bid. Your assistance is so greatly appreciated in my endeavor, and also, you are simply one good guy. May our futures be shared with good bourbon, good times and good stories.

And Mark, I heard of your loss this morning and prayed for you. Barring being with you in person to assist you in your time of sorrow, I figured a prayer for your peace is the next best thing I can do.
I've been there a few times and it never, ever gets easier.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (sy5kK)

554 Posted by: MAGA TEARFEST 2021 at January 10, 2021 09:09 PM (qvJ5w)

Too bad that we've never cried

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (kzzyk)

555 Has anybody here taken a class from Defensive Training Institute? I just learned that they're holding a defensive handgun class in my state next month. It's pricey for me, but I might be able to swing it. However, I suspect it might be too advanced for a beginner like me (I've had one basic pistol class and that's about it.)

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (k42hV)

556 532 Broseidon: back in the late 1970s/early 1980s there were I believe quite a few worries (and even a few movies) about a mass terrorism event occurring at the Super Bowl.

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Black Sunday.

Utterly implausible tale of peaceful Muslims mass killing Americans from the sky.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (YboWf)

557 I think we all have a certain inventory of items which we've bought, backgrounded and signed for, and another inventory of things traded for, gifted, inherited or otherwise not tied to us by record. Perhaps a worthy goal might be that enough trading soon occurs, as to further diminish the value of records?

And yes, I'm a fan of the lowly wadcutter in the snubbie revolvers. Takes the sting out of the grip, but keeps it in the bullet, where it belongs.

Alas though, I've not been "grey" (except for my hair) for years now. Too many bright Aloha shirts for that! (still, no bumper stickers or other "tells", ever.)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Bob Dole at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (QzJWU)

558 Cleanup needed. Not focusing the spotlight on the fool.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:11 PM (M7K2y)

559 I read The Sum of All Fears.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:08 PM (M7K2y)
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I was living in MN and a buddy of mine and I, both Vikings Fans, had a laugh over the idea of the Vikings finally running away with a Super Bowl, only to have that happen.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:11 PM (WEBkv)

560 Re. Old Ammo:
My last range outing I was working up a load for my old re-barreled sporter '03A3
Earlier I had found a box twenty rounds of my reloads that had escaped captivity back in DEC of 1975.
I was planning on pulling the bullets and reusing the cases.
The load notes said the cases were new Winchester Western, with a CCI #200 Large Rifle primer, 57 grains of IMR 4064, topped off by a Speer 150 Spitzer shaped bullet.
The notes said they were accurate.
I am not a 4064 fan in cartridge cases as large as the '06 and I recalled the reason I still had those rounds was that the 4064 delivered quite a snappy recoil compared to the 4831 I normally used.
I also called that 4064 was all I could find at the time and that is why I even purchased it.
Before leaving the range I ran three of the 45 year-old reloads through the old '06 and was rewarded with a VERY tight cloverleaf at 100 yards.
Speer 150s right now? Ha! Unobtanium

Posted by: waepnedmann at January 10, 2021 09:11 PM (ka4fx)

561 544 blaster, it takes unanimous consent to bring it up. Ain't happening until after 1/21. Nanzi can do as she wants but it will eat up any goodwill and undercut corporate cowardice in motion now.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:11 PM (pO7gM)

562 I'd prefer we leave football out of the gun thread, but if y'all insist, at least do us the favor of including the anti-racism score, too. Number of kneelings, number of raised fist gestures, any new slimy idiotic felons' names appearing on helmets, that sort of thing.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:11 PM (OTzUX)

563 I'm not sure why you would want to store guns in a vacuum sealed bag.

For sous vide.

Duh.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at January 10, 2021 09:11 PM (9IdCK)

564 Thanks for the verbiage, Weasel. I appreciate it.

I will be taking a day off this week to get vehicles titled in other names so as not to go through probate, and such. I know how this is going to end, and the more I can do to make it all seamless for those I love, the better.

When Nikita pounded that shoe on the table is the minute we should have sent the Commies a bam gram.

Posted by: AJ Duie at January 10, 2021 09:11 PM (pC4lt)

565 533 I think the 'push for' impeachment is theater to keep the mob riled up.
Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (l3+k2)

--

sounds like an excellent way for Democrats to waste their time rather than passing legislation

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:12 PM (YboWf)

566 It is rifle time. Yes, I am on a budget. Under 700. Any suggestions?

Savage Axis II or Thompson Center Compass ans you'll still have enough for a decent piece of glass. Generally speaking, a hohum rifle with a good+ scope will serve you better than the reverse.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 10, 2021 09:12 PM (qc+VF)

567 One good thing: due to the move of the Bolts to L.A...if they stay there, The Sum of All Fears Bowl will be a distinct impossibility.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:12 PM (M7K2y)

568 Here is the report that Dems, Repubs, MSM, ConInc, NeverTrump, corporations, Influencers, ect... are following to spout their talking points and narrative. It's only 10 pages., I recognized it from the sounds bites I've heard on the radio by Uniparty members.

https://networkcontagion.us/
reports/assessment-of-the-capitol-riots/

Posted by: Genocidal Flop Sweat at January 10, 2021 09:13 PM (ZqjOT)

569 567: POLLY WANNA CRACKER!!!!!!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:13 PM (M7K2y)

570 the Mantis system as one very pro-gun radio host I listen to often won't shut up about it. Anyone have any experience with it?

Mantisx dot com is the site for those interested.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM

Two thumbs up here.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 09:13 PM (DMUuz)

571 whig, you sure about need for UC for impeachment? It was so rare I don't recall, but I would guess that's not a debatable motion. And I'll do 50 push-ups for not leaving all that stuff to the ONT, where it belongs. Bad me.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:13 PM (OTzUX)

572 whig

Good observation, as usual. Pelosi seems to want to chase a laser pointer. Time is not on their side. Anger can come out in unexpected ways.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 10, 2021 09:13 PM (u82oZ)

573 It is untested whether an impeachment can occur to an ex president. The Constitution is not explicit about it. The Constitution provides for 2 punishments from conviction. Removal from office and banishment from holding future office. The Senate could convict with a banishment on future office

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:14 PM (ZfRYq)

574 543 davidt, the hilarious thing is that now Clyburn and company are talking about having the Senate convict DJT *after* he's already out of office. That'll show 'im! :-P

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it would prevent him running in 2024.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:14 PM (YboWf)

575 Once the wife and baby is out of the hospital. It is rifle time. Yes, I am on a budget. Under 700. Any suggestions?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2021 08:49 PM (IYHxL)

I think that if you are going to have only one rifle, get an AR in 5.56, 1x7 twist.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2021 09:14 PM (yQpMk)

576 I'm still looking for mags in a brick and mortar store for my newly purchased M&P Shield 2.0 compact .45. No luck so far.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:14 PM (2DOZq)

577 I don't cry. Sometimes my awesomeness leaks out of my eyes, but that's about it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 09:14 PM (kTF2Z)

578 Range report:
Walked down the hill, put roughly 90 rounds through the silhouette targets with the Walther P22. Miss Lindsey received the brunt of it but Queen Nancy had her share of holes CM. Same as yesterday except yesterday was 9mm day.

Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 09:15 PM (fM0Dq)

579
I was living in MN and a buddy of mine and I, both Vikings Fans, had a laugh over the idea of the Vikings finally running away with a Super Bowl, only to have that happen.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:11 PM (WEBkv)

Heh.

I lived in Denver and chuckled at the idea of Denver hosting a Super Bowl.

EVERY time MN and San Diego played - not very often of course as they are in different conferences - I touted the game as The Sum of All Fears Bowl.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:15 PM (M7K2y)

580 548 McConnell has given a timeline for a hypothetical trial, and it starts in the Biden administration

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Republicans, drag it out for months. Grind the senate to a halt

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:15 PM (YboWf)

581 I think that if you are going to have only one rifle, get an AR in 5.56, 1x7 twist.
Posted by: G

You are right about that ar but I would go with a 1 in 8 in .223 wylde, if you are restricted to 1

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:15 PM (4Jold)

582 First off, spot on opening statement Weasel. Nobody needs that. If one is not capable of expressing themselves without bringing heat down on others, then save it. We get it, these are some trying times, but doing cheetah flips and frothing at the mouth helps in no way. Secondly, yet another great thread. I try to read through as many as the comments as I can and every time I pick up some really good tips and advice, you can never have enough of either. Third, big thanks for hosting my submissions, it really means a lot and is greatly appreciated. Lastly, sorry to hear of the loss of Mark's dog, they truly are part of our family and the loss is felt just as much. Stay safe, keep the faith and God Bless America.

Posted by: Sua Sponte at January 10, 2021 09:15 PM (xTGxm)

583 Yes that was my position 12 months ago but the NFL
doubled down to the point where now I just don't understand. But I
still take the position to each their own if it doesn't harm me
directly.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (2DOZq)

that is a good position imo. These things take time for some people. I have probably watched five games in the last three years. And three of those games were this year because there was literally (or is it figuratively?) nothing else on.

I haven't watched a second of the NBA in 6 years. And as long as I live, that record will keep growing.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:15 PM (Ls0fP)

584 Begin serious worry if the filibuster is nuked for court packing for gun bans.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:10 PM (pO7gM)

Excellent points. Thanks Whig!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2021 09:15 PM (R/m4+)

585 562 I'd prefer we leave football out of the gun thread, but if y'all insist, at least do us the favor of including the anti-racism score, too

Both QBs are white, so infinity racist score

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:16 PM (kzzyk)

586 550 If I had an extra $1,400, I'd be all over that deal.

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stimulus checks rolling in

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:16 PM (YboWf)

587 MAE

http://markandrewedwards.com/markblog.html

It is good to know that I am not the only one that has written eulogies for beloved dog companions. This was beautiful, thank you for sharing it with us!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:16 PM (87oRe)

588 buzzsaw, right but I personally believe that by 2024, the last thing DJT will want is to run again.

He knows everyone in DC really does hate him and the deep state won't let him get anything done, so why bother again?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:16 PM (L2ZTs)

589 The troll is bragging about tasting erectile dysfunction?

Posted by: Methos at January 10, 2021 09:16 PM (kOpft)

590 536 no puss here. But I wonder if proton mail will become the new sign for righties. I am thinking about paying up and getting a different name for the email.

==

email services review here
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Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at January 10, 2021 09:16 PM (nUhF0)

591 534 You are welcome Rhomboid. I spent some time reading old ordnance manuals regarding ammo storage and manufacture. A lot of that stuff is online now like the Chief of Ordnance buying and using Swedish steel to make Krag barrels. It was buried in an 1890's report to Congress. Swedish steel was sought because a) the Swedes made good steel, and b) their natural source (which is still mined) has very low sulfur, trace elements like vanadium, chrome, and copper, and other such goodies as to provide better metallurgy from naturally good ore. They did not know so much why Swede ore was better but found out via trial and error. Mauser factory in Oberndorf still has a Swedish building that was built to make the original Swede 94 and 96 Mausers using Swedish steel.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:17 PM (pO7gM)

592 If they are worried about Trump running in 2024 that's just admitting they cheated.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:17 PM (2DOZq)

593 Thx CBD.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:17 PM (MVjcR)

594 Just watched Atty Robert Barns on Vive Frie. A brilliant lawyer that sees what most don't that is going on in Washington.

"As gentle as sheep, but as wise a serpents."

Posted by: Psycochicken at January 10, 2021 09:17 PM (Ls8wy)

595 I think the impeachment gambit is to keep him from exercising pardon power. Not sure he can if under impeachment, or order the armed forces or any agency to do anything. That would be their motive first and foremost.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:17 PM (7bRMQ)

596 buzzsaw, that's part of my advice. For the next two years at least, the House and Senate should make anything and everything Dems try to do, every day, as cumbersome and difficult as possible.

Lard everything up with "official" procedure, have weeks of debate on absolutely every word of every bill, demand every single point of protocol be followed, figure out ways to "accidentally" disrupt Dems when they speak. The works.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:18 PM (L2ZTs)

597 I still haven't decided on the twist for my AR. Thinking 5.56 chamber, for reasons. But it's between 1/7 and 1/8. Not that it would matter that much. It will be a short-range platform - 100 yds and in. At least that's the way I've conceived it.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:18 PM (OTzUX)

598
Don't you dare tell me what I think or what I believe or what I support. If you want to know, ask. But you don't know.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:00 PM (U2p+3)

C5 is a relentless shit-stirrer.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 09:19 PM (TdMsT)

599 $700 gun guy, I don't do bolt guns but if you do the Savage, Mossberg and Thompson Center are all excellent rifles and will leave you money for glass. I've seen good shooters shoot all of those rifles sub moa.

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 09:19 PM (iBg56)

600 @whig rules are made up as they go along. Remember Nancy's BS about not transmitting the articles? If the House votes articles tomorrow morning McConnell could have the trial that afternoon.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:19 PM (ZfRYq)

601 516: I believe Beto Pancho is firmly committed to poisoning minds at Texas State University. At least for one semester.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:19 PM (M7K2y)

602 The Senate could convict with a banishment on future office

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:14 PM (ZfRYq)

The McConnell "team", including Miss Lindsay, will support this in "the interest of national healing"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:19 PM (87oRe)

603 @594 Barnes' take on Sydney Powell was pretty depressing.

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at January 10, 2021 09:20 PM (AHq56)

604 562 I'd prefer we leave football out of the gun thread,

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Browns AtC exemption in effect

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:20 PM (YboWf)

605 573, the only example of post facto impeachment was from the 1870's and resulted in the acquittal of Sec. of War Belknap. Most of the acquittal vote stemmed from the belief that impeachment was moot upon the resignation.

It would have to be adjudicated. Of far more risk is that PDT adn his family members will be hit with criminal charges by deranged NY state AG or federales if he is out of office. He faced that danger in 2024 regardless.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:20 PM (pO7gM)

606 The McConnell "team", including Miss Lindsay, will support this in "the interest of national healing"!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:19 PM (87oRe)
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Romney will be jumping up and down like a jack rabbit, hollering "convict" while Mitch looks at him and tells him to wait his turn.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:20 PM (WEBkv)

607 Thanks Weasel. I swore off the interwebs from Nov 5th until Christmas. Might have missed it. I'll see if I can find it in the archives or just run with that in general.

Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (fM0Dq)

608 I still haven't decided on the twist for my AR.
Thinking 5.56 chamber, for reasons. But it's between 1/7 and 1/8. Not
that it would matter that much. It will be a short-range platform - 100
yds and in. At least that's the way I've conceived it.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:18 PM (OTzUX)

At that range its too tempting not to go 1:14. Nothing says fuck you like putting one in their forehead and having it come out their asshole.lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (9Om/r)

609 The works.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:18 PM (L2ZTs)

You missed the last four years did you, more's the pity!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (87oRe)

610 has anyone posted the Ds want to 25th PDJT tomorrow?

really on what cause?

or is this fake news?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (r4bSV)

611 There is still NFL football? I did not know that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (u82oZ)

612 Mr. Meeseeks, have you checked out Gun Mag Warehouse or GunClips dot net if you are not finding anything local?

Posted by: Sua Sponte at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (xTGxm)

613 You have $700 to buy a gun ? You can buy two Hi-Point carbines for that and have a little bit left over for ammo. That's my recommendation for someone who does not intend on making it a hobby.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

614 597 I still haven't decided on the twist for my AR. Thinking 5.56 chamber, for reasons. But it's between 1/7 and 1/8. Not that it would matter that much. It will be a short-range platform - 100 yds and in. At least that's the way I've conceived it.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:18 PM (OTzUX)
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Decide on application and bullet first. Faster twist for heavier bullets. Email me and I can send you a chart.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (MVjcR)

615 Lard everything up with "official" procedure, have
weeks of debate on absolutely every word of every bill, demand every
single point of protocol be followed, figure out ways to "accidentally"
disrupt Dems when they speak. The works.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Heh. Describe more of this alternative universe.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (KAi1n)

616 563 I'm not sure why you would want to store guns in a vacuum sealed bag.

For sous vide.

Duh.
Posted by: Michael the Texan

Heh

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (U2p+3)

617 The McConnell "team", including Miss Lindsay, will support this in "the interest of national healing"!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:19 PM (87oRe)

if they do, it will destroy what little is left of the GOP

Posted by: REDACTED at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (zZxh0)

618 Impeachment does nothing to Presidential powers. Trump could pardon anyone he wants while under impeachment.

Impeachment is a threat for Trump to sit down and shut up until he leaves office. It seems to be working.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:22 PM (ZfRYq)

619 C5 is a relentless shit-stirrer.
Posted by: Ladyl

1. been here much longer than you
2. no need to bring sjw ball into the gun thread
3. if you do not want me commenting about your comments mind your own business.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:22 PM (4Jold)

620 600 blaster, McConnell is not going to gut his caucus for Nanzi nor will the Republican senators in there much want to go there. For them, it is now focusing on 2022, not on PDT.

They, and the American people will basically say why bother.

Nanzi's deranged impeachment in Jan 2020 did not work out for her either. Was a non factor politically.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:22 PM (pO7gM)

621 whig, Swedish iron ore - yes, it was highly prized, including during the early 40s ......

Actually I've never checked to see if any went to Allied countries.

Stockholm actually cut off the krauts kind of early, I think 1943 at some point, when the portents of who was going to win were unmistakable. At that point, the Germans were too busy to invade, a threat that had a lot to do with Swedish "neutrality".

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:22 PM (OTzUX)

622 It would have to be adjudicated. Of far more risk is that PDT adn his family members will be hit with criminal charges by deranged NY state AG or federales if he is out of office. He faced that danger in 2024 regardless.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:20 PM (pO7gM)

SWEEP AWAY ALL MONSTERS AND DEMONS!!!

Posted by: Communist Party of China, June 1966 at January 10, 2021 09:22 PM (M7K2y)

623 I still haven't decided on the twist for my AR. Thinking 5.56 chamber, for reasons. But it's between 1/7 and 1/8. Not that it would matter that much. It will be a short-range platform - 100 yds and in. At least that's the way I've conceived it.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:18 PM

100 yd. and in? Would you consider a 20" 1 in 12 w/55 gr.?

Some say the old ways are the best ways.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 09:22 PM (DMUuz)

624
He knows everyone in DC really does hate him and the deep state won't let him get anything done, so why bother again?
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:16 PM (L2ZTs)

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might being doing us a favor. Clear the decks for Kristi Noem against Kamale

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:23 PM (YboWf)

625 And I'm sorry for you, too, CN.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, don't go quietly at January 10, 2021 08:39 PM (uxJPn)

Thank you. My deepest condolences on Logan. Rusty died this week, too and it's been hell. I still reach to pet him on the sofa. It's gonna take a while.

Posted by: CN at January 10, 2021 09:23 PM (ONvIw)

626
Impeachment is a threat for Trump to sit down and shut up until he leaves office. It seems to be working.
Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:22 PM (ZfRYq)
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I think PDT shut up because he's worried about his family. Melania may have also have had something to do with it.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:23 PM (WEBkv)

627
Makes me wonder about the outcome of every election I have voted in since at least 2000.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 08:36 PM (87oRe)
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There's a clip by a man who was present in the hotel room when Kerry, who heretofore pledged to fight the results, got the call that AZ? was counting ballots with an optical scanner.

Kerry said that it's over, Bush wins.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 10, 2021 09:23 PM (CZm2G)

628 , someone once told me there are no stupid question but I am going to be an inquisitive idiot. How do they secure stuff more than say yahoo?
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 10, 2021 08:44 PM (946rW)
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We're going to have to wait for a smart person to answer that!
Posted by: Weasel

End to end encryption, blah blah. Read up on Crypto AG

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2021 09:24 PM (Xih1H)

629 if they do, it will destroy what little is left of the GOP

Posted by: REDACTED at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (zZxh0)

As long as they can see two years of more graft checks being deposited in the Caymans...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:24 PM (87oRe)

630 Dems cannot 25 Amdmt the President. That power is in the cabinet and requires VP.

They can impeach tomorrow. I think they hold it over Trump like sword of Damocles. If he says ANYTHING they pull the trigger.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:24 PM (ZfRYq)

631 I don't think Pelosi is going far enough. They need to ban the letters T, R, U, M and P from the alphabet.

Posted by: DJ at January 10, 2021 09:24 PM (O3/K+)

632 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE BEN SOCK IS ABOUT HIM BEING INCOMPETENT AND HE HAS THROWN 3 PICKS

Posted by: Broseidon at January 10, 2021 09:24 PM (icI8A)

633 Impeachment is a threat for Trump to sit down and shut up until he leaves office. It seems to be working.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:22 PM (ZfRYq)

See, I'm not sure, but Wonderbrains in Congress may think so, therefore they'll do it and until someone says no, you're wrong, it will be enough cover for admin moles to do nothing President Trump may order in his final days.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (7bRMQ)

634 100 yd. and in? Would you consider a 20" 1 in 12 w/55 gr.?

Some say the old ways are the best ways.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

if he is interested in 100 and in wouldn't he want something in an sbr?

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (4Jold)

635 Don't be too sure the Senate Republicans won't convict Trump. If an impeachment trial is possible after he's left office, the GOPe will be only too happy to join their colleagues across the aisle to stick it to a man most of them hate anyway.

Posted by: JuJuBee at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (o4G4K)

636 preventing trump from running in 2024 is a little like preventing the vikings from making it to a super bowl... no i'm not calling trump a loser far from it... neither event is gonna happen anyway

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (l3+k2)

637 Thanks Weasel, will do.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (OTzUX)

638 Hi Ladyl!

When is your first class? I bet you're going to be best on the line!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (U2p+3)

639 615 SFGoth, it happened in 1986 when the Dems seated McCloskey in IN over the state certified winner McIntyre. An even weaker GOP at the time basically ground Jim Wright's Congress into the ground and eventually ousted him on Ethics charges a few years later.

One seat in Iowa already has the Dem challenging it in the House and the NY seat might be also. If the Dems do what they normally do, it will ground the House to a halt and the House sets the rules at the beginning of the session.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (pO7gM)

640 @600
Looks like the Deep State and Uniparty want to introduce Trump to Nemesis.
They slew our champion, now they wish to humiliate him, and us.
Can't you just feel the healing?
Oh so much healing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (GwkzT)

641 Don't you dare tell me what I think or what I believe or what I support. If you want to know, ask.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:00 PM

Oh, we think we know.

Posted by: River Otters at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (DMUuz)

642 Condolences to you too, CN. I'm sorry for Rusty's passing, that is just so rough. Prayers for you both.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (6mvRv)

643 I think PDT shut up because he's worried about his family. Melania may have also have had something to do with it.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:23 PM (WEBkv)

Be sheer hell for them to sacrifice Barron on the alter of political action, and you know the D scum would do it!!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (87oRe)

644 Mr. Meeseeks, have you checked out Gun Mag Warehouse or GunClips dot net if you are not finding anything local?
Posted by: Sua Sponte at January 10, 2021 09:21 PM (xTGxm)

Buying on line is always my last resort. I will look at those sites if I can't find anything locally. Thanks.

I have two mags that came with the gun but I like a minimum of 5 mags for every gun I own.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (2DOZq)

645 635 Not if it means an end to their grift. They will simply not say much and vote to acquit other than Romney and Murkowski--maybe Collins and a few GOP senators leaving. McConnell runs an iron ship.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (pO7gM)

646 Hi Ladyl!

When is your first class? I bet you're going to be best on the line!
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (U2p+3)
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I am here to tell you Ladyl is a shooter!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (MVjcR)

647 @whig see what I wrote above. It's a threat to keep Trump penned up.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (ZfRYq)

648 642 Condolences to you too, CN. I'm sorry for Rusty's passing, that is just so rough. Prayers for you both.
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (6mvRv)

Thank you.

Posted by: CN at January 10, 2021 09:27 PM (ONvIw)

649 Be sheer hell for them to sacrifice Barron on the alter of political action, and you know the D scum would do it!!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (87oRe)
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The fascists would be dancing in the street if something happened to Barron.

I don't like the Obama's but I would never wish harm to their daughters.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:27 PM (WEBkv)

650 At midnight tonight Parler goes offline and will probably never return given the bans being applied to their business by other tech companies.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 09:27 PM (0EO+N)

651 16.5" barrel. Iron sights. Totally basic. Just want to optimize 1) light weight and 2) accuracy, in the context of that kind of platform.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:28 PM (OTzUX)

652 621: I'd be surprised if any iron ore went to Allied countries. Sweden was surrounded. Sure, Finland may have gotten some, but they were fighting the USSR, not because of the Nazis but because the USSR picked a fight with them first. Beyond that, Sweden was surrounded and it wasn't like there were very many friendly places to ship to close by. Sweden underwent "Finlandization" before that became a thing during the Cold War.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:28 PM (M7K2y)

653 SFGoth, I know, I'm assuming the Repubs would have some balls. They have zero.

whig, thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:28 PM (L2ZTs)

654 Steelers have the ball, Browns score in 3..2...

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:28 PM (YboWf)

655 Posted by: CN at January 10, 2021 09:27 PM (ONvIw)
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Very sorry to hear about Rusty, CN.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:28 PM (MVjcR)

656 Kerry said that it's over, Bush wins.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 10, 2021 09:23 PM (CZm2G)

My theory: The "books" were cooked so Kerry was supposed to win, and yet Florida didn't come through which is why he fought it so long.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:29 PM (87oRe)

657 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5QDXMJCgPQ

Posted by: Get a Grip at January 10, 2021 09:29 PM (TjMdv)

658 Parler wasn't a very good site to begin with.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:29 PM (YboWf)

659 come on guys. this is not what is needed at this time. Some people still watch the NFL or at least see who is wining in the playoffs because of history. There was a time not long ago when who won or lost could change fortunes in a city. And yes, people would become nicer to each other when their team won.

i recall a time when the Redskins were in the Super Bowl and it was the first night ever with no major violence. I mention that because it was part of our culture. Too bad they ruined that, and we now know who they are. But if someone still takes some pride when their team wins in the playoffs, give them some leeway. It is hard to kick certain things.

and by the way, leave the ettes alone. Maybe it is not fair, but it is a good way to be. If I am wrong, fine, but I am not.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:29 PM (Ls0fP)

660 By the way, Ben Roethlisbergererer is still the QB for the Steelers?

Good grief, he's ancient for a QB!

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:29 PM (WEBkv)

661 Very sorry to hear about Rusty, CN.
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:28 PM (MVjcR)

Thanks, Weasel. It was a rough experience, I was just glad he did not seem to be in pain.

Posted by: CN at January 10, 2021 09:29 PM (ONvIw)

662 16.5" barrel. Iron sights. Totally basic. Just want to optimize 1) light weight and 2) accuracy, in the context of that kind of platform.

Posted by: r

if he is new to guns and in a hurry to get accurate and staying under 100 yds, then forget the irons and get a red dot. they are faster, about the same weight, and the "budget" red dots are about the same as good irn sights.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (4Jold)

663 Some say the old ways are the best ways.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

if he is interested in 100 and in wouldn't he want something in an sbr?
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM

I'm thinking terminal ballistics w/the 5.56 he specified. If you're going SBR, personally I'd go w/.300 BLK, but there could be good reasons to go with 5.56.

Posted by: River Otters at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (DMUuz)

664 Palindrome, My take on Barnes is not favorable and I speak from a bit of experience with the law. He is trying to get attention for his podcast and maybe auditioning for a network gig as a professional GOP who does not vote GOP. Look up the sad experience of GOP media commenters.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (pO7gM)

665 Steelers fans booing yet?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (YboWf)

666 DCLXVI

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (M7K2y)

667 Reports on twitter now that Visa and Amex have announced that they will no longer accept payments at any Trump Organisation property or business.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (0EO+N)

668 swish!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (M7K2y)

669
OK. 9:30 thank you time!

Thank you all for being here tonight. I really do appreciate it. Things suck, no doubt about it, but try and find something to get your minds off of it for a little bit if you can.

With that, enjoy your evening and have a good week. Hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (MVjcR)

670 For all those reading, I just want to state for the record:

I traded all my guns and ammo to a travelling salesman who was hocking magic beans.

I'm cleaned out. No need to come by and check.

Posted by: Honest Larry at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (rJ8HJ)

671 Steelers have the ball, Browns score in 3..2...

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:28 PM (YboWf)

I remember when the Steelers always won and the Browns never won. We called it the 70s.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (Ls0fP)

672 In WW2 did we know that the Middle East was an oil deposit hotspot?

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (2DOZq)

673 With that, enjoy your evening and have a good week. Hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (MVjcR)
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Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (WEBkv)

674 I'm thinking terminal ballistics w/the 5.56 he specified. If you're going SBR, personally I'd go w/.300 BLK, but there could be good reasons to go with 5.56.
Posted by: R

got it.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (4Jold)

675 660 By the way, Ben Roethlisbergererer is still the QB for the Steelers?

Good grief, he's ancient for a QB!
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:29 PM (WEBkv)

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*** giggles in Tom Brady ***

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (YboWf)

676 Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 08:27 PM

Thank you! Husband thinks I won't need a sissypad with our mini fourteen, but will with the emm one. I'm inclined to find one and start with it and then decide to risk the bruise.

And I'm so sorry for your loss, Mark!

Posted by: Catherine at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (FXERY)

677 @whig you presume that McConnell doesn't want to shiv Trump. His wife resigned the cabinet because of The Capitol thing.

You are right McConnell runs a tight ship. It will be that way if McConnell wants to have the trial, too.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (ZfRYq)

678 Not new to guns, lol. Can always add doo-hickeys later if I want (red dots, etc).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (OTzUX)

679 Be skeptical of all information

Posted by: Get a Grip at January 10, 2021 09:32 PM (TjMdv)

680 666 DCLXVI
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (M7K2y)

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thats one big t-shirt

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:32 PM (YboWf)

681 Reports on twitter now that Visa and Amex have
announced that they will no longer accept payments at any Trump
Organisation property or business.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 09:30 PM (0EO+N)

Close all cards and go to cash only?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:32 PM (7bRMQ)

682 565 533 I think the 'push for' impeachment is theater to keep the mob riled up.
Posted by: davidt at January 10, 2021 09:07 PM (l3+k2)

sounds like an excellent way for Democrats to waste their time rather than passing legislation
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:12 PM (YboWf)

^^this. There are a limited number of legislative days until 2022 and if they want to waste them and further piss off the American people who see no point to it, let them. Whatever you do, don't throw me in that briar patch!

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 10, 2021 09:32 PM (BMmaB)

683 Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:27 PM (WEBkv)

Comrade, your problem is that you still believe in the ethics of a viable civilization, unlike all professional politicians that believe government exists primarily to facilitate looting the public treasury!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:32 PM (87oRe)

684 647, Not really, it does not change things and the 16 senators in GOP required is not going to fall on their swords for Nanzi--not enough face any risk in 2022 and the Dem senators have several incumbents that this vote would end their careers--Manchin and Tester for example.

BTW, Kamala has still not resigned--bit strange don't you think.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (pO7gM)

685 If I were Trump:

1. Fuck the deep state, pardon Assange
2. Pardon CJ Roberts, and family for any immigration nonsense. I don't know if it's true, but it will torque off Roberts. So, do it.
3. Pardon Eric Price for sundry export violations and such
4. Declassify a bunchnof shit, especially anything on Dominion pulling election shenanigans for us overseas.
5. Rendition Soros to Malaysia, just because.
6. Give an award to all the folks who worked on the series of Middle East deals, something nice.

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (Xih1H)

686 Weird ... NG in DC ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbY-tH6KI-s

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (AHq56)

687 Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (WEBkv)
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Happy to do it, Blake.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (MVjcR)

688 Say what you want about parler but they were a legit service allowing people to post without the fear of the ban hammer.

You might prefer gab or some other alternative but we're not in a position where we can be picky right now. They're silencing ALL dissent.

Losing Parler is as tragic as it is terrifying.

Posted by: pmurT at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (rJ8HJ)

689 Be sheer hell for them to sacrifice Barron on the alter of political action, and you know the D scum would do it!!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (87oRe)

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Keeps going the way he's been going, Barron is gonna be ten feet tall.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (kTF2Z)

690 Thank you for another super thread, Weasel. And thanks to those who provided black powder advice.

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (AMIL/)

691 Bad as losing a family member (Elizabeth Rose) is, the continual reminders of what you lost just going through your daily routines hits every bit as hard.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (KATBx)

692 @672 yes and that is why the Brits deposed the Shah of Iran and replaced him with his son, to keep Iranian oil for the Allies.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (ZfRYq)

693 Close all cards and go to cash only?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:32 PM (7bRMQ)

Raise those IRS flags on cash withdrawals so your entire account can be locked down!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (87oRe)

694 blockchain is looking more and more appealing.
Get your bitcoin wallet rolling.
Cash will be eliminated.

Posted by: Get a Grip at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (TjMdv)

695 McConnell isn't nearly as petty as others, and he will be more afraid of backlash from his declining base than others. He will get enough votes together to prevent conviction, based mostly on the grounds that Trump is no longer in office

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (kzzyk)

696 659: I get it. When the Broncos first won Super Bowl XXXII, it was a great night, even if I was in TX. My phone rang off the hook until midnight as all my friends kept calling in to get my take on the game.

My boys gave me some damn good memories. But that's the problem with politics. It tends to poison wells.

The NFL has been a way for me to, since ever, unplug my brain from many worries and just focus on something else, which happened to be a game for which I have a huge amout of appreciation.

But this year? I just can't get with it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (M7K2y)

697 Anyone doing an SBR, go 300 Blackout or 762x39 anything else and most of your powder burns outside the barrel. A 308 and a 762x39 come out of a 10 inch barrel at the same speed.

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (iBg56)

698 my guess is the dims are angling for a deal with the GOP for a harsh censure, with a majority of the GOP voting for it

that way they have cover for the ridiculousness of it all and the bonus of it hurting the GOP down the road

now whether the GOP is stupid enough to fall for it is another question

Posted by: REDACTED at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (zZxh0)

699 681, Amex and Visa are done then because breach of contracts and tos will end up in court with potential damages in the billions. Sucks to be these stupid corporate virtue signallers. The Treasury can also still do something along with Comptroller of Currency. Expect injunctions incoming.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (pO7gM)

700 16.5" barrel. Iron sights. Totally basic. Just want to optimize 1) light weight and 2) accuracy, in the context of that kind of platform.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:28 PM

What? If 3"@100 out of a 20" w/1-12 was good enough for Abraham, it oughta be good enough for you. ;-)

In that case, I'd probably go 1-7, but honestly, the difference between that and 1-8 is probably minuscule.

Posted by: River Otters at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (DMUuz)

701 Not new to guns, lol. Can always add doo-hickeys later if I want (red dots, etc).

Posted by: r

the thing is is, these days the optics, red dots and other, are so much more effective than irns that it is interesting to think over whether you are better off with a red dot with 10 of thousands of hours of battery or irns.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (4Jold)

702 694 blockchain is looking more and more appealing.
Get your bitcoin wallet rolling.
Cash will be eliminated.
Posted by: Get a Grip at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (TjMdv)

Not even the Swedes could pull that off.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (M7K2y)

703 @686 DC Guard was on the streets on Jan 6 I saw them.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (ZfRYq)

704 Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (AMIL/)
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My pleasure, amigo.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (MVjcR)

705 Thanks Weasel! Look for the email on barrel twist in your incoming.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (OTzUX)

706
When is your first class? I bet you're going to be best on the line!
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2021 09:25 PM (U2p+3)
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I am here to tell you Ladyl is a shooter!
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:26 PM (MVjcR)

Next week! I don't know how I'll do with a handgun. This is all very new to me.

Thank you for a great thread, as always, Weasel!

I was interested to see that I already practice the principles of the gray man.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (TdMsT)

707 Posted by: Catherine at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (FXERY)

You're welcome Catherine. Not often I can give really useful advice here. Everyone seems to be an expert here, I'm just a guy who shoots out in the desert. Have fun with the M1. They're fun!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:36 PM (7bRMQ)

708 The NFL has been a way for me to, since ever, unplug my brain from many worries and just focus on something else, which happened to be a game for which I have a huge amout of appreciation.

But this year? I just can't get with it.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (M7K2y)
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Same for me with baseball. I was a part of a good size fan site, and, then, it went woke and I was told, flat out, there was no escape from politics.

I left and haven't gone back.

From what I've seen of the rules changes, I'm no longer interested in baseball.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:36 PM (WEBkv)

709 @681
No, effectively the DemoTechnoFascists are attempting to put him out of business.
Which is what would happen if all Trump properties lose the ability to use charge cards for their guests.
I mean, this is now becoming a fucking disaster for Trump.
Looks like the Deep State is going for something just short of Sic Semper Tyranus.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:36 PM (GwkzT)

710 now whether the GOP is stupid enough to fall for it is another question
Posted by: REDACTED at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM

Always bet on stupid!

Posted by: GOPe at January 10, 2021 09:36 PM (DMUuz)

711 Weasel,

As always, thanks for a wonderful thread. I'll be reading the post more than once.

Posted by: JTB at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (7EjX1)

712 BTW, Kamala has still not resigned--bit strange don't you think.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (pO7gM)

t is getting a bit late. I think Gore resigned at the new year, but then, Biden was late in resigning

Posted by: CN at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (ONvIw)

713 698 Redacted, the GOP considered censuring PDT but the rules of the senate for censure only cover members. The pointless censure of Jackson was literally torn from the Senate Journal by the new Senate after the next election.

This does not help Biden at all and the corporations piling on will basically destroy their own good will. They should know by now that the GOP was the only thing keeping a lot of them from the left.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (pO7gM)

714 696 659: I get it. When the Broncos first won Super Bowl XXXII, it was a great night, even if I was in TX. My phone rang off the hook until midnight as all my friends kept calling in to get my take on the game.

Eagles winning the Super Bowl was one of the last really special memories i have with my Dad.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (YboWf)

715 703 DC Guard was on the streets on Jan 6
Yes I know. The same channel posted a video of them getting off a bus. Could easily be 4-day old footage, of course.

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (AHq56)

716 They won't recess the senate, but Trump could make a bunch of recess appointments.

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (Xih1H)

717 @695
McConnell doesn't give a shit, this is his last election, so he has nothing to fear from whatever constitutes his base.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (GwkzT)

718 Expect injunctions incoming.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (pO7gM)

It's a tax!

Posted by: SCCJ Juan Robberts at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (87oRe)

719 Iran was as important, possibly more important, as a Lend-Lease corridor to the USSR, as for oil. Second biggest conduit - Far East/Trans-Siberian was #1. North Atlantic Archangel/Murmansk #3.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (OTzUX)

720 The left thinks vindictiveness is a good move because they have all the levers of power.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (ZfRYq)

721 The WSJ is reporting that Jeff Bezos has been negotiating with Trump's bankers, in particular Deutsche Bank, to buy all outstanding debt that the Trump Companies owe them.

Presumably so he can call in all the debts when he wants and there's no way Trump can negotiate a lower repayment as he has done in the past.

I'm guessing Bezos can afford it.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (0EO+N)

722 @686 DC Guard was on the streets on Jan 6 I saw them.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (ZfRYq)

they were there on July 4th a year or two ago. The one where they flew the B2s and historic planes over The Mall. Sure it is weird if they are there now but people should not act as if it has never happened before. They have a lot of MP units with them and though many don't believe it, it is still a pretty small city.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (Ls0fP)

723
*** giggles in Tom Brady ***
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:31 PM (YboWf)

At 43, the oldest QB to throw a postseason TD lass, surpassing George Blanda. But IIRC Blanda played until he was 48 - he just didn't go to the playoffs any more. And in those days they didn't have wild cards and all that nonsense.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (BMmaB)

724 708: What killed baseball for me? The Lastros going over to the Fake Baseball League. Haven't watched a game since. Which is sad, because every so often I would drive to Houston and watch baseball games.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (M7K2y)

725 705 Thanks Weasel! Look for the email on barrel twist in your incoming.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:35 PM (OTzUX)
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Will do!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:39 PM (MVjcR)

726 I bet the thought, why the fuck did I run for President if coursing through Trumps mind right about now.
JFC.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:39 PM (GwkzT)

727 I learned the ways of the grey man in my nefarious youth. Sad to have to return to that.

Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 09:39 PM (fM0Dq)

728 Posted by: JTB at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (7EjX1)
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Thanks JTB.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:39 PM (MVjcR)

729 Always bet on stupid!

Posted by: GOPe at January 10, 2021 09:36 PM (DMUuz)

To be fair, it's always worked before...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:39 PM (87oRe)

730 Raise those IRS flags on cash withdrawals so your entire account can be locked down!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 10, 2021 09:34 PM (87oRe)

No, I mean stop using credit cards. Use cash, if you get a check, cash it instead of depositing it, or deposit with cash back. You don't need to use huge withdrawals. Plenty of check cashing places.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:39 PM (7bRMQ)

731 717 @695
McConnell doesn't give a shit, this is his last election, so he has nothing to fear from whatever constitutes his base.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:37 PM (GwkzT)

He cares deeply for the GOPe, so will not do something petty just to punish Trump. Not because he didn't want to punish Trump, but because he realizes how toxic that would make the GOPe to the 70M+ Trump voters

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:39 PM (kzzyk)

732 What killed baseball for me? The Lastros going over to the Fake Baseball League. Haven't watched a game since. Which is sad, because every so often I would drive to Houston and watch baseball games.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (M7K2y)
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I always liked the NL AL split and ground rules...AL teams play by NL rules in NL parks etc. But, from what I understand, those differences no longer exist.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:40 PM (WEBkv)

733 preventing trump from running in 2024 is a little
like preventing the vikings from making it to a super bowl... no i'm not
calling trump a loser far from it... neither event is gonna happen
anyway

Posted by: muttering vikings fan

You know, the Vikings got to the Super Bowl 4 times from '69 to '76.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 10, 2021 09:40 PM (KAi1n)

734 Weasel, thank you for the thread and especially for the archive. Have saved your new site. As a beginner, I have A LOT of info to go through.

Posted by: Iris at January 10, 2021 09:41 PM (6lKe4)

735 @721
Bezos is the worlds richest man, something like 200 billion dollars.
Which he owes a great deal of that to Trumps economy.
Looks like they are executing operation Plouffe, they are going to destroy Trump so thoroughly that his kind will never rise again.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:41 PM (GwkzT)

736 720 The left thinks vindictiveness is a good move because they have all the levers of power.
Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (ZfRYq)

the left is doing what their doing for the same reason that the Nazis did what they did

they never think they will lose power

Posted by: REDACTED at January 10, 2021 09:42 PM (zZxh0)

737 734 Weasel, thank you for the thread and especially for the archive. Have saved your new site. As a beginner, I have A LOT of info to go through.
Posted by: Iris at January 10, 2021 09:41 PM (6lKe4)
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My pleasure. I really need to bring the archive up to date! It's on my list. Promise!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:42 PM (MVjcR)

738 Blanda played until he was 48, as a kicker.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 10, 2021 09:42 PM (KAi1n)

739 Musk is richer than Bezos for now.

Bezos has more cash probably.

I don't know if that is true about him buying Trunps debt but Jeebus. These people are awful.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:42 PM (ZfRYq)

740 I have never heard of "wadcutter" ammo, but find the concept very interesting!
I wonder if law enforcement has considered using it in a situation when raiding an apartment with adjacent apartments?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 10, 2021 09:42 PM (CjFDo)

741 Well, my time to wander has come.

Wish me well on my adventure to the SLOSA range next Saturday!

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at January 10, 2021 09:43 PM (WEBkv)

742 BTW, Kamala has still not resigned--bit strange don't you think.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:33 PM (pO7gM)

If she resigns, she won't get Uncle Sugar to pay her for anything until she's sworn-in on the 20th. Would not surprise me if this is a factor. Gotta get those reparation dollars any way you can!

Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 09:43 PM (AMIL/)

743 they never think they will lose power
Posted by: REDACTED at January 10, 2021 09:42 PM (zZxh0)

Nobody challenged their fraud, so they won't stop.

Posted by: CN at January 10, 2021 09:43 PM (ONvIw)

744 Bezos doesn't have the liquidity to spend billions buying Trump's debt. There is likely too much of it to be worth it. That being said, buying the notes on a property or two and putting the squeeze on Trump isn't out of the question. I think that he'd prefer to buy the Redskins than waste money punishing Trump, though

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (kzzyk)

745 Thanks Weasel! Another successful posting!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (7bRMQ)

746 I'm thinking about watching a movie to bide my time. Would Sicario be a good one to watch to get me in the mood?

TIA!

Posted by: Blor Utar, from Zimtok-5 at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (xxG/v)

747 397 Can anyone else get to Secondcitycop? I tried to go there and it takes me to gooble.
Posted by: f'd at January 10, 2021 08:41 PM (t/MPE)
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I just checked and it appears it is now a by invitation only site. First time that ever happened.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (sy5kK)

748 721 Bezos would be playing with fire.

Far too much business in red states and depending on those loan's terms--imagine a red state jury voting damages against a deep pocketed Bezos. The divorce settlement might look cheap to him.

AWS, the profit maker is already going to take a hit because most companies can roll their own and discard his rather pretty Cloud service network. The problem with purges is eventually everyone figures out that they can be next and the movement collapses and the purgers are literally removed from society.

Even Mao had to turn on his own beloved Red Guard and his own wife to stay in power.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (pO7gM)

749 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 10, 2021 07:42 PM (cfSRQ)

I just bought your Spanish Civil War book and am looking forward to reading it.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (9IdCK)

750 If she resigns, she won't get Uncle Sugar to pay her for anything until she's sworn-in on the 20th. Would not surprise me if this is a factor. Gotta get those reparation dollars any way you can!
Posted by: Gref at January 10, 2021 09:43 PM (AMIL/)

Not to mention shady dealings in CA over who will sit in her Senate seat...before an "election" for it, anyway.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (M7K2y)

751 I have only one credit card, American Express . Hope it's not true about the Trump properties. I've heard about businesses not accepting AE because of their percent of charge is greater than other credit card companies but not the other way around.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (2DOZq)

752 Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (7bRMQ)
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Thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (MVjcR)

753 Trump is more popular than any person in the GOP

that's a fact

Posted by: REDACTED at January 10, 2021 09:45 PM (zZxh0)

754 More unsubstantiated rumors flying in this place than there are geese over Canada.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 10, 2021 09:45 PM (W4eKo)

755 Biden did not resign his seat until the day before and that election was not contested.

There is some hinkiness with the replacement process in California.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:45 PM (ZfRYq)

756 So, these really are the end times?
Mark of the Beast shit everywhere.
I wonder if God will forgive poor stupid fucks like myself just trying to get by.

Posted by: Get a Grip at January 10, 2021 09:45 PM (TjMdv)

757 The WSJ is reporting that Jeff Bezos has been
negotiating with Trump's bankers, in particular Deutsche Bank, to buy
all outstanding debt that the Trump Companies owe them.

Presumably so he can call in all the debts when he wants and there's
no way Trump can negotiate a lower repayment as he has done in the
past.

I'm guessing Bezos can afford it.

Posted by: Cancel Culture.....My oh my, that would be an idiot move.
Trump Industries simply declares bankruptcy like it has done many times before.. with Bezos left holding the bag!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 10, 2021 09:46 PM (CjFDo)

758
I traded all my guns and ammo to a travelling salesman who was hocking magic beans.

I'm cleaned out. No need to come by and check.
Posted by: Honest Larr

Are your magic beans of the accelerant variety or the explosive variety?

The ATF

Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 09:46 PM (fM0Dq)

759 735 @721
Bezos is the worlds richest man, something like 200 billion dollars.
Which he owes a great deal of that to Trumps economy.
Looks like they are executing operation Plouffe, they are going to destroy Trump so thoroughly that his kind will never rise again.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:41 PM (GwkzT)

This all sounds like they are going too far. I believe Trump knows some Middle Eastern folks with a whole lot of money who could be relied upon for assistance. Bezos's and these other guys' wealth is mostly in their company stock that they cannot liquidate. Bezos's liquid wealth is maybe a few billion.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 10, 2021 09:46 PM (BMmaB)

760 If push comes to shove, I'm WAY too old to run around in the woods. They will have to come to me!

Posted by: oldgeezer

No shit. I have a hard time getting to the crapper.

Posted by: Ronster at January 10, 2021 09:46 PM (XNcIR)

761 735 Thomas, historically hubris like this meets nemesis. Trying to leave an enemy with no retreat usually results in bad results. Remember, they don't have a legitimate majority behind them.

It is all virtual, media, and smoke and mirrors like the Wizard of Oz.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:47 PM (pO7gM)

762 Bezos has more cash probably.

I don't know if that is true about him buying Trunps debt but Jeebus. These people are awful.
Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:42 PM (ZfRYq)

I'm guessing it's payback for the military contract Amazon missed out on amongst other things.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 09:47 PM (0EO+N)

763 Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 10, 2021 09:46 PM

Might want to update your nic. Yesterday was the anniversary of his crossing.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 09:47 PM (DMUuz)

764 @695:

Impeachment will throw fuel on the fire. McConnell is a very intelligent hack grifter and knows the GOP has imploded. It's very likely he will wait a day and hand this off to Schumer. Pontius Pilate and all that. McConnell will make certain this comes up just shy enough so that the likes of Murkowski and Thune can still lobby a lot.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 10, 2021 09:48 PM (puu6v)

765 @744
Amongst his peers, taking down and humiliating Trump would be very big pelt.
Bezos would easily do this just for that alone.
Remember, the "elite" hate Trump because while Trump is rich he's not of the class.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:48 PM (GwkzT)

766 the left is doing what their doing for the same reason that the Nazis did what they did

they never think they will lose power

Posted by: REDACTED at January 10, 2021 09:42 PM (zZxh0)

And when do lose power, there's a damn good chance it won't be squishy republicans they will be dealing with, because that party is dead.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 10, 2021 09:48 PM (9Om/r)

767 When she resigns, the Senate will be 50-49 GOP until her replacement is sworn in, making Cocaine Mitch still the Majority Leader. I assume this takes a day or two to get executed.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 10, 2021 09:48 PM (BMmaB)

768 So, these really are the end times?
Mark of the Beast shit everywhere.
I wonder if God will forgive poor stupid fucks like myself just trying to get by.
Posted by: Get a Grip

Ask and you will find out. When He gives us forgiveness He does so with great joy.

Posted by: Cynical Sock Monkey...there's no retreat from here folks. at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (fM0Dq)

769 Bezos doesn't have the liquidity to spend billions buying Trump's debt. There is likely too much of it to be worth it. That being said, buying the notes on a property or two and putting the squeeze on Trump isn't out of the question. I think that he'd prefer to buy the Redskins than waste money punishing Trump, though
Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:44 PM (kzzyk)

He doesn't need cash. He can just issue them Amazon shares or options

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (0EO+N)

770 Might want to update your nic. Yesterday was the anniversary of his crossing.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2021 09:47 PM (DMUuz)

Are you talking Julian, or Gregorian calendar?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (7bRMQ)

771 He doesn't need cash. He can just issue them Amazon shares or options
Posted by: Cancel Culture

this is stupid

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (4Jold)

772 Presumably so he can call in all the debts when he wants and there's no way Trump can negotiate a lower repayment as he has done in the past.

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when you borrow money there are repayment terms. this makes no sense to me. My mortgage company can't do this

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (YboWf)

773 Mark,

So sorry to read about your four-legged companion, Logan. I have a cat, and having never been a pet person before (she was foisted upon me by my family), I'm beginning to understand what a gift a great pet is in one's life. I also have a sense of how you might be feeling, and I'm saying a prayer for comfort and peace for you as I write this.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (Saib+)

774 If Bezos buys Trump's debt and demands every cent, my hunch is that DJT would just file bankruptcy again. Bezos would get pennies on the dollar.

Also, the left hates Bezos as well (not that I shed any tears over that). Something tells me things wouldn't go so great for Jeff if he tries to play Trump Terminator.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:50 PM (L2ZTs)

775 Thanks, Weasel, for another stellar effort. They just keep getting better.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2021 09:50 PM (KATBx)

776 @761
I don't think they really care at this point.
You ever see a pack of wild dogs corner and take apart a deer like they are land piranha's?
That's what the fuck is going on right now.
All we can do now is pray for Trump and his family.
Because they are going to need it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:50 PM (GwkzT)

777 At 43, the oldest QB to throw a postseason TD lass, surpassing George Blanda. But IIRC Blanda played until he was 48 - he just didn't go to the playoffs any more. And in those days they didn't have wild cards and all that nonsense.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (BMmaB)

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he threw FORTY td passes this year. this is many tds.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:50 PM (YboWf)

778 Bezos buys the Trump notes and calls them due. Trump declares bankruptcy. Not like he hasn't done it before. Then Bezos is stuck holding worthless notes.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2021 09:50 PM (kTF2Z)

779 @770 obviously big Julie was using his own calendar

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at January 10, 2021 09:50 PM (AHq56)

780 That Bezos Trump debt thing appears to be a DU wet dream. Not anything real.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:51 PM (ZfRYq)

781 when you borrow money there are repayment terms. this makes no sense to me. My mortgage company can't do this
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (YboWf)

Trump has a history of technical defaults, and it is likely that his hotels are not currently generating enough free cash flows to comfortably cover debt repayment

Posted by: In Exile at January 10, 2021 09:51 PM (kzzyk)

782 My oh my, that would be an idiot move.
Trump Industries simply declares bankruptcy like it has done many times before.. with Bezos left holding the bag!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 10, 2021 09:46 PM (CjFDo)

Bezos would pick up a whole bunch of Golf Courses and Hotels.

I can easily see Amazon expanding into Hotels and Golf Course packages.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 09:51 PM (0EO+N)

783 I'm guessing Bezos can afford it.

Posted by: Cancel Culture at January 10, 2021 09:38 PM (0EO+N)

Yeah because the lockdowns lead to lots of people using his biz to deliver stuff to their homes instead of going out to catch the chyna-flu.

We've made that guy rich. We need to stop buying from him. The only thing I've ever bought from amazon is the Horde Cookbook, but family members use it and I've tried to get them to stop.

Posted by: Boots Who Read The Gulag Archipelago at January 10, 2021 09:52 PM (O0Tro)

784 I was under the impression that the Deutsche Bank debt was unsecured credit, which would be a rather poor thing to buy.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2021 09:52 PM (yQpMk)

785 Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2021 09:50 PM (KATBx)
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Why thank you, irongrampa. I appreciate that!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:52 PM (MVjcR)

786 Duke, exactly.

All PDT will give a shit about in two weeks is building his media empire, and I'd bet he'd even be willing to take some big steps down in wealth to get it up and running and durable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:52 PM (L2ZTs)

787 Thank you Weasel and Horde! I don't know what I'd do without this place. Prayers up for all y'all rons and ettes and PDJT. I don't know much but I know we need each other in interesting times. I know my nic is still unfamiliar to most but y'all are family to me. Sorry to get all mushy in the gub thread.

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 10, 2021 09:52 PM (k42hV)

788 Bezos would pick up a whole bunch of Golf Courses and Hotels.

I can easily see Amazon expanding into Hotels and Golf Course packages.
Posted by: Cancel Culture

so, this finance thing, not something you are familiar with

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:52 PM (4Jold)

789 Weasel, thank you and good night.

Posted by: Ronster at January 10, 2021 09:53 PM (XNcIR)

790 obviously big Julie was using his own calendar

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at January 10, 2021 09:50 PM (AHq56)

When you're the capo del tutti capi, I guess so....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:53 PM (7bRMQ)

791 So, another new BSG, how lucky we are.

To go along with the others dragging us down into ZeroHedge or GatewayPundit territory.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2021 09:53 PM (OTzUX)

792 I have a boatload of credit on Visa, Amex, et al. Really tempted to go on a Vegas bender with $5000 per hour women of the silkiest kind, a bunch of blow, more women, more blow, and a few hundred games of Texas Hold 'Em. Then of course, burn the monthly statements after to fun, if still alive.

Why not?

Posted by: AJ Duie at January 10, 2021 09:53 PM (A97+q)

793 @778
No, he will own all things Trump.
Bezo's Tower does not have the same ring so I'm guessing he will liquidate all properties or simply re-sell them.
Basically, the Deep State want to inflict on Trump something just short of death.
This is fucking nuts.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2021 09:53 PM (GwkzT)

794 when you borrow money there are repayment terms. this makes no sense to me. My mortgage company can't do this
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (Yb

That is true. Renegotiating the contractual terms in favor of the borrower can be done . Allegedly this is why Bezos wants them so Trump can't renegotiate. That also makes no sense because the reason for the bank to renegotiate is not to have the borrower just declare bankruptcy.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at January 10, 2021 09:54 PM (2DOZq)

795 this is stupid
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (4Jold)
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I'm certain there is a better way to express your disagreement.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:54 PM (MVjcR)

796 No, he will own all things Trump.
Bezo's Tower does not have the same ring so I'm guessing he will liquidate all properties or simply re-sell them.
Basically, the Deep State want to inflict on Trump something just short of death.
This is fucking nuts.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

no

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:55 PM (4Jold)

797 Gunga La Gunga !

Nice Thread, Weasel !

Posted by: JT at January 10, 2021 09:55 PM (arJlL)

798 Posted by: Ronster at January 10, 2021 09:53 PM (XNcIR)
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My pleasure, Ronster! 'night!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:55 PM (MVjcR)

799 Sorry Weasel about derailment of the gun thread. Too many folks are putting out extreme whatevers from the media when a) all media people are basically democrat operatives, and b) some people like to worry.

Me, I'm concerned but the US has been through some other rough patches as well. Not going to put up false hopes like trust the plan but not going to do the wailing at the sky like the Dems did in 2017. My byword is watch and see and react to real events--not media's gaseous vapors emitting from swamp sources.

Regarding firearms, I would tell each person that they need to be able to service, maintain, and fix their firearm in an emergency so buy and obtain manuals if you do not already have them, get a small kit of needed repair parts, and a few minor tools will work for most things aside from major work.

I can speak for Jerry Kuhnhausen's series of gunsmithing guides that cover most revolvers made by S&W, Colt, and Ruger, M1 carbines and M1 rifles, Mauser rifles, and the 1911 pistol. Has detailed troubleshooting guides and can help you describe what is wrong with your pistol, etc. to the gunsmith and understand how these firearms operate.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:55 PM (pO7gM)

800 How many billions did it cost Trump to be President?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:55 PM (YboWf)

801 Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my NOODstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled ONT. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?
(And if you haven't watched "Army of Darkness", do so, improve your life!)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (kgQDj)

802 Sooo... I just now clicked the Weasel Acres link to bookmark it. Judging from that top pic, you must have been putting in some serious hours on the ol' tractor.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (qc+VF)

803 I imagine Bezos on the phone with AOC:

"If I buy all Trump's debt and stick him with usurious payback terms, can I open that NY office in your district?"
"Hmmm..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (L2ZTs)

804 Ont is nood

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (ZfRYq)

805 Posted by: JT at January 10, 2021 09:55 PM (arJlL)
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Thanks JT!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (MVjcR)

806 Steelers punter can go home now

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (YboWf)

807 btw the link to The Epoch Times about D Joe taking on the NRA inspired me to subscribe to it, I've been meaning to for awhile but tonight is the time to make a stand against communism and TET is certainly against communism.

Posted by: Boots Who Read The Gulag Archipelago at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (O0Tro)

808 Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:54 PM (MVjcR)

No, there isn't. It's all he knows.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 10, 2021 09:57 PM (C1NyB)

809 801 Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my NOODstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled ONT. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?
(And if you haven't watched "Army of Darkness", do so, improve your life!)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (kgQDj)

LMFAO

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2021 09:57 PM (M7K2y)

810 Patrick Sweeney has similar guides to gunsmithing rifles and pistols, as does Gun Digest by a guy named Woods. There is a military surplus bolt action rifle book out that describes how to disassemble and reassemble military bolt action rifles if you have one of those as well.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:57 PM (pO7gM)

811 this is stupid
Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:49 PM (4Jold)
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I'm certain there is a better way to express your disagreement.
Posted by: W

I was thinking succinct was best.

when you have some guy show here from nowhere and suggest that bezos, who is not the majority shareholder of amzn, is going to be issuing amzn stock or notes to finance a buyout of Trump's assets, it would seem that succinct is best, especially since he is running wild in the thread with this nonsense.

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:57 PM (4Jold)

812 Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 09:55 PM (pO7gM)
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No worries, whig. Appreciate your being here!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:57 PM (MVjcR)

813 ONT is up everyone. Thanks again for being here. See you next week!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 09:58 PM (MVjcR)

814 No, there isn't. It's all he knows.
Posted by: Baron Munchausen

is that the best you have?

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:58 PM (4Jold)

815 Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 09:56 PM (L2ZTs)
Or, "Can I see you with your shirt off?"

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 10, 2021 09:58 PM (7bRMQ)

816 I personally didn't see the thread derailed though it might have happened. We are at post 800 and i know i I made many gun posts before mentioning anything else. if it happened fine, but I think people are more respectful of this thread than almost any other one. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:58 PM (Ls0fP)

817 OT: Evening.

Further OT: Apparently the Browns are doing well and Alex T. Chick is exploding in orgasmic joy on the Twatters.

Vastly Far OT: 'Ron's on the Twats might need an umbrella and galoshes.

Posted by: Robert at January 10, 2021 09:58 PM (1Yy3c)

818 767 Pence still being is office, technically makes Mitch majority leader. Remember the weird 50-50 Senate after Vt. Senator switched parties.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 10:00 PM (pO7gM)

819 Hey everybody. Hey ONT! Hey MisHum! Great music as always.

"Follow me on Etch-A-Sketch"

I would but trolls and malware have taken over mine! Dangit all to heck!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 10, 2021 10:00 PM (L2ZTs)

820 Posted by: screaming in digital at January 10, 2021 09:52 PM (k42hV)
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My pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 10:00 PM (MVjcR)

821 Thanks Weasel, may we see you next week with better tidings.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2021 10:01 PM (pO7gM)

822 Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 09:57 PM (4Jold)
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And I'm thinking there is a better way for you to express your disagreement.

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 10:01 PM (MVjcR)

823 And I'm thinking there is a better way for you to express your disagreement.
Posted by: W

?

Posted by: confederatefifth at January 10, 2021 10:02 PM (4Jold)

824 One more thing, thanks to Weasel for the gub thread, I always learn something being here, which is more than I can say for a lot of my internet time.

Posted by: Boots Who Read The Gulag Archipelago at January 10, 2021 10:02 PM (O0Tro)

825 Posted by: Boots Who Read The Gulag Archipelago at January 10, 2021 10:02 PM (O0Tro)
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Happy to do it, Boots! Glad you're finding it useful, and appreciate your being here!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 10:04 PM (MVjcR)

826 Been trying to find a bigger caliber to move up. There is NOTHING available. Even deals I see randomly posted here. Bu the time i find it its sold out.

Ammo too. Almost as if a huge buyer with unlimited resources is buying up all inventory. Hmmm.

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 10, 2021 10:06 PM (SScvq)

827 I personally didn't see the thread derailed though it might have happened. We are at post 800 and i know i I made many gun posts before mentioning anything else. if it happened fine, but I think people are more respectful of this thread than almost any other one. Just my opinion.
Posted by: Quint at January 10, 2021 09:58 PM (Ls0fP)
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I must've missed it too! No worries. All good!

Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2021 10:07 PM (MVjcR)

828 #826, What bugger caliber are you looking for? 308 is the only thing I haven't had trouble finding.

Posted by: ck at January 10, 2021 10:09 PM (iBg56)

829 Mark,

DON'T LET NURSE SHOOT THE CZ-75!!!

You will not get it back!
If she shoots the 1911 as reported, when she puts her hands on the CZ she will feel as if she has found her soul-mate in bellum.

Offer it is a gift and consider your place in Valhalla as secure.

Move on while you still have all of your body parts.

Posted by: waepnedmann at January 10, 2021 10:15 PM (ka4fx)

830 I really miss coming here everyday, but I am so pissed off and on edge that I am afraid I am poor company. Some of theses comments do not improve my black mood, and my limited sanity will not allow much more doom and gloom. I will try to get out in the fresh air more, and exercise more, as limited as that can be after two heart attacks in the last 18 months. On a good note, I bought 800 rounds of 22LR this week. It wasn't cheap. I also bought 20 Ga buckshot and slugs ( at an antique fair, of all places). So, there is that. I plan on shooting mostly black powder stuff for a while. Flintlocks are fun, and don't require hard to find and expensive percussion caps. And they cant ban rocks (flint), can they?

Posted by: jasonj at January 10, 2021 10:15 PM (qSQLQ)

831 To the owner of this site, you are nothing but a first class hypocrite. You talk about false bravado of some posters. Tthe WWII generation would be totally ashamed of us. You talk a lot and post knowledge of gun ranges and implements but it is of no use when they confiscate your weapons. You can then fight them with toothpicks. We have failed to meet the threat of people with the same philosophy as the Soviet Union. They are laughing at us. Communists only respect force and blood. Read some history..... Pol Pot? Mao? Lenin? Stalin? Chavez? Castro? Pelosi? Biden? AOC? One in the same. You will stop them only one way. Thats not bravado. I have not shot a weapon since 5th grade NRA 50ft. Have now. Running and getting ready to fight when they come or take it to them when necessary. Not Bravado. Common sense. If you dont like it kick me off your damn site. You are a fool to think these people - with what they have just gotten away with - are going to argue philosophy with you. Millions of illegals won't care. I would rather be proud of a firefight in Portland or Atlanta than wake up a coward typing. I do not want to risk my health and life. I have to. I will not live under their thumb.

Posted by: Bill Senn at January 10, 2021 10:35 PM (Or1DS)

832 Posted by: Bill Senn at January 10, 2021 10:35 PM (Or1DS)

You mad, Bro?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2021 10:42 PM (yQpMk)

833 503 - Nice Repo Man reference.

Posted by: Dr. Vivi-Not my SCOTUS, Not my FBI at January 10, 2021 10:52 PM (USW1s)

834
Wow, what's going on? I made a post and I think it disappeared. Testing...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free at January 10, 2021 11:15 PM (lCaJd)

835
I really miss coming here everyday, but I am so pissed off and on edge that I am afraid I am poor company. Some of theses comments do not improve my black mood, and my limited sanity will not allow much more doom and gloom. I will try to get out in the fresh air more, and exercise more

Posted by: jasonj

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jasonj, I'm on the same wavelength. It's very hard to get away from the horde, but I do start feeling gloomy when I come here. I also don't have much to contribute since I've mostly unplugged from the news.

I went to a little local MAGA rally today and it lifted my mood immensely. I got out of the house and hung with like-minded patriots. I believe that Trump will continue to lead the MAGA movement, whether he's in or out of the White House, and with any luck if it's outside the White House, he'll be so powerful and lead a movement so vociferous that the enemies of America will wish he was back in the White House where he could at least be chained by swamp creatures.

Keep the faith, fight for Trump, and as Winston Churchill said, never give up.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free at January 10, 2021 11:21 PM (lCaJd)

836 President Asterisk will come at this the same way Obama did - sideways. Feds already know which guns you bought on account of NICS, right? They'll instruct the banks and insurance companies to do their bidding vis-a-vis confiscation by making you prove you know longer own the guns they know you bought. Nice mortgage you have there - shame if anything happened to it. Comprends, amigo?

Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at January 10, 2021 11:45 PM (LBO1U)

837 A little late to try and nullify what Ace has allowed to smolder for years

Posted by: Attila at January 11, 2021 05:31 AM (hioAE)

838 Difference between grey man and cowardice and surrender is that grayman is temporary camoflauge while you regroup and plan and organize.

Posted by: Shigg at January 11, 2021 06:54 AM (0SrVS)

839 Posted by: Bill Senn at January 10, 2021 10:35 PM (Or1DS)
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Hi Bill,
I think you might've missed my point, or perhaps I didn't make it clearly, but I appreciate your taking the time to comment. Welcome to the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at January 11, 2021 07:36 AM (MVjcR)

840 Hah here is my post and note the date:

67 In a way I am starting to think that Pelosi "withholding the articles" is a stroke of genius.

It is not, and never was a thing. And now suddenly it is a power of the Speaker.

I heard that dope Lindsey Graham say that Pelosi needed to transmit the articles like it says in the Constitution.

IT'S NOT IN THERE

I still think that the trial starts next week.

Posted by: blaster at January 09, 2020 07:49 AM (ZfRYq)

Posted by: Sec State Brad Raffensperger at January 11, 2021 08:30 AM (ZfRYq)

841 Bad sock

Posted by: blaster at January 11, 2021 08:30 AM (ZfRYq)

842 Thank you, Blonde M.....

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