The Morning Report - 1/7/21 [J.J. Sefton]

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Good morning, kids. Thursday and I cannot even begin to process what happened yesterday in the Capitol. It was without a doubt probably the blackest day at least since 9/11/01 and probably one of the blackest in our now concluded history. If the nation didn't die on Election Day, it certainly was mortally wounded. Yesterday, the executioner delivered the coup de grace. Emphasis on the word "coup."

I have to now choose my words extremely carefully for obvious reasons, which are going to be a lot more obvious as the coming days and months pass. I abhor violence. I was brought up by kind, honorable, moral and righteous parents who practiced what they preached in terms of tolerance and compassion. This despite a mother who endured the horrors of actual Nazism, and a father who lost a brother on Saipan courtesy of the Japanese emperor. But the combination of their own upbringing and their life experiences did not preclude them from quite justifiably seeing the world as realists, if not in solid black and white then certainly in distinct and deep shades of darks and lights.

Normally in a situation similar to what we saw yesterday (if one even exists) I would say something like "while I cannot condone what happened, I certainly understand why it happened." For sure, this time I certainly understand it, but thanks to the Left and now the GOP, I am a red nether hair's breadth from crossing the formerly bright red line of the former. In the Bible, from Ecclesiastes "there is a time for peace and a time for war." I have to ask myself, what time is it now?

Shifting gears for a moment, something was awfully strange about the storming of the Capitol Building yesterday by supposed Trump supporters. Oh, no doubt once the barricades were breached, quite a number of actual Trump supporters got inside the House and Senate chambers and offices and caused a ruckus. How could that have even been possible? Well, when DC mayor Muriel Bowser told federal law enforcement officers to stand down the day before the protest, you do the math. Ever wonder how Congressional hearings always seem to be invaded by shrieking Code Pinko leftists carrying signs for the benefit of the propagandists' cameras? QED.

Tragically, a victim who has been identified as a Trump supporter was shot and killed in the chaos and confusion. Now the propagandists, the Democrats and the GOP are condemning Trump as well as anyone and everyone who voted for or otherwise support him as traitors, engaging in violent treason and sedition. Given everything we have endured this past year and going back into the Obama years and beyond really, that attitude is risible in the extreme. It's also infuriating beyond my capacity to describe the emotion.

My rage this morning is directed in particular at the GOP. Given everything we have seen and endured, these bastards - with the exception of the handful of patriotic members of the Senate and House who exercised their legitimate Constitutional authority and right to challenge the Electoral College votes - including Vice President Mike Pence stabbed us in the heart. Correction, they along with the state legislatures in question as well as the majority on the Supreme Court stabbed us in the heart weeks if not months ago. Pence et al were just twisting the knife. Meh, it happened the moment President Trump said "so help me G-d" four years ago when the GOP controlled both houses of Congress and sabotaged him at every turn for two years, until Paul Ryno delivered the House to Malig-Nancy Pelosi.

Year after year, election after election, we begged and pleaded with that party to stop what is now inevitable and imminent from happening. I blame them for what happened yesterday. For what happened nine weeks ago. For what has happened to this country for the past 60 years by not opposing the overthrow of America as founded and going along to get along, either out of denial, greed or some combination of both.

Now there is talk of impeaching Trump, with just under two weeks left, which if successful would ban him for running for president again in 2024, as if any election ever again in this country, such as it is, is ever not going to be rigged by the Enemy. And this vile lout Corey Bush is introducing legislation to have those who moved to challenge the Electoral College expelled from office. Looking beyond that, do you think that anyone who donated to Trump or to a Republican is not going to have that information leaked to potential employers, or banks or perhaps to the mostly peaceful protesters of Antifa and BLM who will know where you live?

Funny how city after city can burn to the ground as police either willingly or not stand by and let it happen and that was somehow justified. Yet here we are after a year of having our livelihoods as well as our freedoms destroyed on the pretext of a health crisis that was nothing more than bad flu, and now our only legal and legitimate way to protest this, our sacred right to vote for which thousands of our soldiers, among them my uncle, died to preserve, stolen. And those who had the power and the G-d damn duty to stop it not only abrogated that responsibility but turned around and flamed us for pointing it out and demanding they abide by it.

Regardless of whether it was indeed Trump supporters who started the mayhem or not, I certainly understand how it happened, and G-d help me for saying it, I'm just about to the point of condoning it. It is obvious for anyone with eyes to see and a mind to process it that we no longer have a legitimate government, nor do we have legitimate political institutions or regular order. For anyone on our side to blame Trump or us for what happened is the last straw, along with the certification of Joe-Blow as the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

I cannot believe what we have witnessed yesterday and really since the national incarceration/lockdowns. I am grateful that I do not have children, mostly because I would have dreaded them having to try and exist in a tyranny or worse, having been brainwashed in the schools into cheering it on.

I'm too enraged to weep. They have sown the wind and they are going to reap a whirlwind.

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1 Thanks JJ.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 07, 2021 07:47 AM (2k7BX)

2 Morning all. A sad, sad day.

Posted by: Rosasharn at January 07, 2021 07:47 AM (yEBFM)

3 Thank you for doing this every day ,J.J.

I know that at times it has been hard for you.

But....thank you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 07, 2021 07:48 AM (3D/fK)

4 Say, when's that Durham report supposed to come out?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2021 07:48 AM (V4X8U)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 07:49 AM (Zz0t1)

6 Trump should resign and give this shitshow to Pence.

Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 07:49 AM (qF62U)

7 Prepare.

That's all that can be said now. Go ahead and consider what is the line for you, because they're going to look for it. You might not be a high priority, but they'll knock on your door at some point.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is halfway wondering if the FBI is antifa at January 07, 2021 07:50 AM (ylp2r)

8 The Bible teaches thou shalt not MURDER... not kill. Very different thing...

Posted by: Rory at January 07, 2021 07:50 AM (+3NUg)

9
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 07, 2021 07:50 AM (DUIap)

10 The Bible instructs us that "thou shalt not kill"

I thought it was "thou shalt not commit murder," which is different. Killing in the name of is, at times, warranted and condoned.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 07:51 AM (Zz0t1)

11 If elections are meaningless performance art then governments are illegitimate, violence and lawlessness will always be the end result.

If the trajectory does not change, then yesterday will merely be an opening act.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2021 07:51 AM (V4X8U)

12 Oh, and willowed:

Expect drone strikes against Americans on American soil before Independence Day of next year.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is halfway wondering if the FBI is antifa at January 07, 2021 07:51 AM (ylp2r)

13 Psalm 37:1-7
Do not fret over those who do evil; do not envy those who do wrong.
For they wither quickly like grass and wilt like tender plants.
Trust in the LORD and do good; dwell in the land and cultivate faithfulness.
Delight yourself in the LORD, and He will give you the desires of your heart.
Commit your way to the LORD; trust in Him, and He will do it.
He will bring forth your righteousness like the dawn, your justice like the noonday sun.
Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for Him;
do not fret when men prosper in their ways, when they carry out wicked schemes

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at January 07, 2021 07:52 AM (Nu6Gg)

14 "Cori Bush introduced a bill calling for the expulsion of Republicans who supported election challenges."

Hell expel them all. Save us the trouble.

Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 07:53 AM (qF62U)

15 Good morning. I very rarely post but I am almost always here. This morning I just want to thank you all for being here and letting me know I am not alone. Oh and, Happy Birthday, JJ. Thanks for all that you do.

Posted by: Cindy C at January 07, 2021 07:53 AM (EVIuY)

16 Give me something to be hopeful about. Anything.

Posted by: Rosasharn at January 07, 2021 07:53 AM (yEBFM)

17 Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for Him;
do not fret when men prosper in their ways, when they carry out wicked schemes

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at January 07, 2021 07:52 AM (Nu6Gg)
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That's what I'm doing.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 07:53 AM (FYe3W)

18 What I saw at the Wild Protest (WISATWP) 1/x

I still haven't really processed it all - and what I observed is not what the current narrative is. I know, hard to believe.

But I do want to address the false flag theory. There were thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of protestors bearing American and Trump flags who came up the steps and were on the balconies of the Capitol. There may have been some provocateurs in there but its clear the push into the building was the work, and intent of the main body of the crowd.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:53 AM (ZfRYq)

19 WISATWP 2/x

The upshot of yesterday's events is that Joe Biden will be inaugurated for sure on Jan 20. I think that was going to happen anyway, but this was The End. Not sure of what though. If there is serious talk about a 25th Amendment removal of Trump, that may include the Republican Party altogether. It may be these United States as currently constituted. It may be The End of our freedoms.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:54 AM (ZfRYq)

20 @17

As the saying goes, every day above ground is a good day.

So there's that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2021 07:54 AM (V4X8U)

21 WISATWP 3/x

I think that the protest had started going off the rails before it happened. Many people and groups including the main "Stop the Steal" had planned for a rally/ protest starting 10 am on Jan 6 at the Capitol. Other groups jumped in and the locations and times got muddled, along with the message. There were 3 over 2 days. And there was a push - and I heard this from a Women for Trump organizer on the radio to make the message "positive" and make it about election integrity, not about stopping the steal.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:54 AM (ZfRYq)

22 WISATWP 4/x

Here is where I am going to fault Trump himself - he was the keynote speaker the morning protest on the Ellipse. This then overshadowed the original main event that was to happen at the Capitol.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:54 AM (ZfRYq)

23 WISATWP 5/x

The AOS contingent met at a location nearer the Capitol and before Trump began speaking. We decided that going direct to the Capitol made more sense, we could get a better spot. I pointed out that the WP/ Stop the Steal event was on the SCOTUS side - and we went there.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:54 AM (ZfRYq)

24 Give me something to be hopeful about. Anything.
Posted by: Rosasharn

The sun will come up, the birds will be singing, the Earth still spins.

Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (qF62U)

25 WISATWP 6/x

That event start changed to 1 pm. We were there for a while and there were few people there. We were waiting for the crowd from the mall to come. The area on that side of the Capitol was not large enough for that whole crowd if they had come. Some people there were already itching for trouble.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (ZfRYq)

26 Excellent as always, JJ. Bring on the whirlwind. What they've done and are doing to Donald Trump is an injury to the universe.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (H8QX8)

27 WISATWP 7/x

A guy came up with a megaphone and said that all the able bodied men and strong men needed to come up to the front by the barricades, and when the time came, lift them out of the way, because we were going in. The crowd that was there largely ignored that, but a few big guys did move forward.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (ZfRYq)

28 Dissent is patriotic.

Posted by: Fortcoins at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (Kp7gk)

29 Morning all.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (W+RZ5)

30 WISATWP 8/x

One of those big guys really stood out to me as a troublemaker. Some dork thought it would be cool walk at the front of the crowd and shout "Fuck Trump Fuck Trump...." A lady stopped him and engaged in a discussion that appeared to be civil though in retrospect I think she was setting up what happened next. The big guy? He had come up behind the dork, and sucker punched him from behind, sending his hard hat flying. A short scuffle, and the crowd there mostly disapproved.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (ZfRYq)

31 We're never voting our way out of this because your vote will never count again.

They've done it.

China won. Russia won. Iran won. We're toast.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (Zz0t1)

32 All they're gonna reap is our money and graft

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 07:55 AM (ONvIw)

33 WISATWP 9/x

The funny pirate flag story: Sharon brough small pirate flags to identify each other and as a shout out to AOSHQ. A guy walked by and he had a blue ball cap in MAGA font with what appeared to be some Christian themed words on it. He stopped in front of us and said "What's with the pirate flags, guys?" I answered, because we are pirates.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (ZfRYq)

34
I corrected my misquoting of the Bible. Figures. I was brainwashed by The Animals' "Sky Pilot."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (s2VJv)

35 Yesterday's events prove that our federal government is corrupt, inept and a fraud.

In others words.....illegitimate. What happens next who knows, but the federal government has to go.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (sVFtl)

36 WISATWP 10/x

Blue cap guy says "Really? So you are going around pillaging and murdering and raping people? Have you raped anybody today?" At this point we were kind of like, well, no, not today, and he goes off on "You don't want to get involved in real piracy it's horrible" Sharon (I think) offered up that it was because of the Ace of Spades website, and he says oh I read that all the time, get a lot of good content from it. Do they take submissions? That's the story.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (ZfRYq)

37 I was slightly wrong about Pence. He's not just a spineless, platitudinous, cowardly incompetent putz, he's actually quite vicious and hates his President. Will wonders never cease.

The one consolation I suppose is that he's so politically mort he redefines mort. Look for a tell-all book down the road, a passive-aggressive hit job on Trump carefully couched in Christian pieties and self-righteous platitudes.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (H8QX8)

38 WISATWP 11/x

As 1 o'clock rolls around, the crowd was not getting any larger and we wondered what was happening. We saw the post here about the people rushing the Capitol and getting inside - nothing like that was happening on our side. I thought, well, that's fake news. We heard what we thought might be gunfire, and we heard a couple of flashbangs.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (ZfRYq)

39 WISATWP 12/x

Crowd rumors started going - a flashbang had caused someone to have a heart attack and die. We did not hear about the shooting. We decided to leave and go to the other side, and Sharon engaged an NBC crewman about what was happening, he said the crowd had been stopped from coming up where we were because it wasn't safe.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (ZfRYq)

40 WISATWP 13/x

We were on the side of the Capitol and then there was some discussion whether we wanted to go where it was getting sporty - from there we could see a HUGE crowd that was still blocked on Constitution. There were lots of police and fire trucks and ambulances. We saw the crowd coming up the side of the Capitol inside the barricades, so decided to return to where we had been.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (ZfRYq)

41 Good morning y'all!

Posted by: tbodie at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (fo8C+)

42 WISATWP 13/x

The crowd approached the Capitol police and eventually just pushed past them to go up the main stairs and stopped at the top - they did not go in. Eventually, all 3 sets of stairs were swarmed and the balconies occupied. We saw someone try to smash a window, the cops and the crowd jumped on that guy. I have heard/read that he was antifa - could be, he was clearly not in sync with the crowd.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:57 AM (ZfRYq)

43 WISATWP 14/x

I left about 245. As I walked to the Mall side, I saw the size of the crowd. IT WAS HUGE. The front lawn was covered and that extended a long way down the Mall. The streets that were closed throughout the capital were filled with people. There was no tension, no sign that there was any violence anywhere. There certainly wasn't destruction or scuffles. There were no counterprotestors.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:57 AM (ZfRYq)

44 I'm kicking myself for not making the Reichstag comparison first.

Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2021 07:57 AM (Izzlo)

45 WISATWP 15/x

I don't know what it will mean. I think that the dual standard is shocking. Well, it shouldn't be, but it still is. People who get arrested for this will certainly be sentenced, not set free. There is a lot of currency in saying "we shouldn't become like them." But as Private Hudson said, I don't know if you are keeping up with current events, but we got our asses kicked back there.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 07:57 AM (ZfRYq)

46 What does the horde think of the idea of a populist party whose membership and candidates are solely drawn from the bottom 90% by net worth? I was thinking it could be called the Real90 party.

Nothing against the top 10% - just think that it would help the party stay focused on success, now that the Republicans have shown themselves to be utterly feckless.

Posted by: Xiao at January 07, 2021 07:57 AM (RzT7J)

47 Good morning Cindy. Good to have you here. Welcome.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 07, 2021 07:57 AM (2k7BX)

48 Trump should resign and give this shitshow to Pence.

Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 07:49 AM (qF62U)

Concur. Let Pence own it. And during his resignation announcement, tell Americans they owe no allegiance to this illegitimate government.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2021 07:57 AM (5XK0y)

49 Morning!

"I have to ask myself, what time is it now?"

The time for planning. Soros backed AG's across America have planned this for years. It's time to hit back with the same tactics.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2021 07:57 AM (CjFDo)

50 I have to ask myself, what time is it now?
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Well, it was part of the recently-evolved "living" social contract that destruction of public property was somewhat excusable by the emotional statement.

But per the typical "deal" you make with lackeys, that's only for people who get officially sanctioned by the politicians and the people who control the media.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 07:58 AM (FYe3W)

51 WISATWP 16/x

I do not understand why the Right does not understand "tit for tat" game theory. Political violence will be deliegitmized only if the Right gets in on it. Cheating in elections will be delegitimized only if the Right gets in on it. I think we need to get good at cheating, only then will the uniparty be incentivized to stop it.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:00 AM (ZfRYq)

52 I think after watching people who openly tell you they want to destroy you and everything you care about, playing by the silly rules when they don't have to is a suckers move.

Posted by: Poppyseed at January 07, 2021 08:00 AM (E3NMe)

53 Thank you, JJ.
I mourn the demise of the USA as it is most certainly over.
I do not despair and shall stand FOR my dearly departed nation. By Any and All Means Necessary.

Posted by: Trumplican at January 07, 2021 08:00 AM (jV+aN)

54 Blaster's synopsis of yesterday's events from on site should be made it's own thread at some point today.

I'm just sayin.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:00 AM (Zz0t1)

55 I have to ask myself, what time is it now?

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Don't ask us.

Posted by: Chicago at January 07, 2021 08:00 AM (Izzlo)

56 I truly wonder if yesterday might not have been the seeds of Revolution 2.0 being sown. The majority of our elected officials are just not listening to us.They are complicit in what happened to this country.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (mcfjc)

57 In a couple weeks a new President who will read a great speech (MFM headline) of bringing the country together and rebuilding again after the Trump administration.... You can almost write the speech without an expensive speech writer. Rainbows and unicorns will flash across the sky as millions cheer. (MFM headline)

Posted by: Colin at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (0Y/m7)

58 Thanks for the report, blaster. Glad you made it out.

Posted by: t-bird at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (BvZkh)

59 I see this morning that the horned freak and the guy who stole the podium are being identified by msm as q-anon.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (2k7BX)

60 56 I truly wonder if yesterday might not have been the seeds of Revolution 2.0 being sown. The majority of our elected officials are just not listening to us.They are complicit in what happened to this country.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (mcfjc)


Or it's the next phase of the coup against us. False flag operation to outlaw us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (s2VJv)

61 I'm beginning to think that the peaceful people who just want to be left alone to laugh with their children and go visit their parents are always going to lose to violent people who are driven by the desire to force others to use the correct pronoun in regards to strangers.

I know the specifics are different throughout history, but the same basic idea exists.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (Gj8Yp)

62 The majority of our elected officials are just not listening to us.They are complicit in what happened to this country.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (mcfjc)

Listening to us? Yesterday just confirms how much they hate us.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (H8QX8)

63 56 I truly wonder if yesterday might not have been the seeds of Revolution 2.0 being sown. The majority of our elected officials are just not listening to us.They are complicit in what happened to this country.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (mcfjc)


I posted last night that I used to kinda joke about CW2. But I am more convinced than ever that it is coming. Not today, not tomorrow, but it is coming.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (ZfRYq)

64 The justification for "violence", I put that in quotes because anyone that has been to a rock concert anytime in the last 30+ years has seen worse when people storm the barricade to get close to the stage, is in the Declaration Of Independence. Like the founders we've expended every avenue except one.

Absolutely disgusted by the first hour of the Mark Levin Show yesterday. I've listened to him for years. Heard him a little over a month ago say he was afraid that what the left was doing could possibly touch of a civil war prompted by our side. Why the hell he would say that then act indignant to what he speculated himself could happen is beyond me. God bless him for furthering my education but his time has passed. There is no constitution anymore bud, you're irrelevant now.

Posted by: JROD at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (0jZnq)

65 57 In a couple weeks a new President who will read a great speech (MFM headline) of bringing the country together and rebuilding again after the Trump administration.... You can almost write the speech without an expensive speech writer. Rainbows and unicorns will flash across the sky as millions cheer. (MFM headline)
Posted by: Colin at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (0Y/m7)


Just like Hitler in '33, but without the glitter and anal lube...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (s2VJv)

66 Also, I am desperately hoping Trump starts a third party just to end Republicans forever. They were supposed to fight for me and they straight up folded. At least Democrats have the decency to admit they hate me so I know I need to oppose them.

Posted by: Poppyseed at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (E3NMe)

67 >>And this vile lout Corey Bush is introducing legislation to have those who moved to challenge the Electoral College expelled from office.


Bush was just elected in 2020 and he is BLM.
Newest member of the Squad.

This is America in 2021: BLM activists inside the Capital while law-abiding, tax-paying patriots are outside, being called terrorists.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (bDqIh)

68 I corrected my misquoting of the Bible. Figures. I was brainwashed by The Animals' "Sky Pilot."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 07:56 AM (s2VJv)


Wait......something I said MEANT something?

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (Zz0t1)

69 If any of you are familiar with Armslist, they have a notice that due to high volume of emails things are taking longer. This notice went up yesterday afternoon.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (I58tH)

70 Know who I don't envy...NRSC callers. Man are those people going to get earfuls

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (/6GbT)

71 Lol
JJ forgot yo bland SOROS !!
Yes he is the antichrist
It was his highly paid Antifa provocateurs who first breached the barricades
Plus we were all given free beer and chips on our chartered busses on the ride back to our socialist cities

Posted by: Attila at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (C9XT4)

72 Or it's the next phase of the coup against us. False flag operation to outlaw us.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (s2VJv)

Yup. They're always advancing, never retreating. This will be fodder for more banning, deplatforming, censoring, criminalizing.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (H8QX8)

73 One problem is the left doesn't know how to use words as words.

The second problem is that having debased words entirely there are no words to get to them. They continue to think that they are "nice" and "compassionate" while almost thanking Rand's neighbor for putting him in the hospital.

And all that flies, because being in that social sphere is not about critical self-examination, but simply increasing your sway in the sphere.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:03 AM (FYe3W)

74 If the nation didn't die on Election Day, it certainly was mortally wounded. Yesterday, the executioner delivered the coup de grace. Emphasis on the word "coup."

Likely nitpicking here, but I believe the country died on 7/5/2016 when James Comey declared if you were a Clinton you would not be prosecuted. The last four years the dead body has been kept on life support, the plug now been pulled.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (v2ilG)

75 Iacta alea est...Joe promised a dark winter...well he gets it.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (h81g2)

76 I truly wonder if yesterday might not have been the seeds of Revolution 2.0 being sown. The majority of our elected officials are just not listening to us.They are complicit in what happened to this country.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (mcfjc)


I truly wonder how I'm going to react when the come for my guns, because you KNOW they're coming.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (Zz0t1)

77 Good Morning, everyone.

Thank you for stating how i feel so eloquently, J.J.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (VcFUs)

78 @56

Things will go really kinetic once the Donks nuke the filibuster.

Once the government becomes a rubber stamp, then what's the point of the government then?

There is no point, nothing they produce will be legitimate and nothing they pass will have popular backing of at least half the country.

So roughly by summer of 2021 things will become kinetic.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (V4X8U)

79 The upshot of yesterday's events is that Joe Biden will be inaugurated for sure on Jan 20. I think that was going to happen anyway, but this was The End. Not sure of what though. If there is serious talk about a 25th Amendment removal of Trump, that may include the Republican Party altogether.

It may be these United States as currently constituted.
It may be The End of our freedoms.
Posted by: blaster


The states will no longer be bound by a illegitimate compact.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (W+RZ5)

80 >>And this vile lout Corey Bush is introducing legislation to have those who moved to challenge the Electoral College expelled from office.

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Hahaha

Change the laws to retroactively punish the lawbreakers.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (Gj8Yp)

81 Sadly Kurt Schlicters fictional books about the Split appear to be happening.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (mcfjc)

82 Senator McConnell recited an Oath,
AG William Barr recited an Oath, and
VP Mike Pence recited an Oath; BUT

LTG Flynn TOOK The Oath and
President Donald J Trump TOOK The Oath!

Two of these events are NOT like the others!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 07, 2021 08:05 AM (87oRe)

83 I'd bet many of our founding fathers would have been part of the 'riot' that the MFM is pushing hard today. They would understand why its happening.

Posted by: Colin at January 07, 2021 08:05 AM (0Y/m7)

84 Also, I am desperately hoping Trump starts a third party just to end Republicans forever.

No need for that! What if we change our name to the New York Nationals?

Posted by: Washington Generals at January 07, 2021 08:05 AM (SwCv8)

85 I said it once here and I'll say it again:
If Trump wins, cities will burn.If Biden "wins", the country will burn.

Now we know.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at January 07, 2021 08:05 AM (ZIoLS)

86 I've said that the conspiracy will recognize that Jesus was a Jew and that Jews are Caucasians, so same race as "white people" when they decide that the worship of a "future white king" is "White Supremacy".

And they will decide this. Because they don't have the mental acuity to avoid simple reaction.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:06 AM (FYe3W)

87 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2021 08:06 AM (5QBw6)

88 I truly wonder how I'm going to react when the come for my guns, because you KNOW they're coming.
Posted by: Sponge


Is that first cop thru the door willing to die to take your rights?

Because I'm willing to die to preserve mine.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 08:06 AM (W+RZ5)

89 Communism here we come.

Posted by: Dr. Darth Randall at January 07, 2021 08:06 AM (Zpb+m)

90 "Strange game. The only winning move is not to play." -- Spoken by a computer in the movie WAR GAMES.

For us conservatives/patriots/{whatever we are}, it is clear that we have no winning moves in the new America. I'm calling it Panem (Hunger Games reference).

This is far from over. MAGA Nation will not just accept defeat. But I think that means the only winning move is not to play the same game anymore.
I see secession as the only answer. It will not happen quickly - if at all. It's been mentioned here many times. Can/will it work? Not sure. But what else do we have?

A huge THANK YOU to JJ for doing that thing you do each and every weekday.

Proud to be a Hordeling. We need each other more than ever now!

Posted by: Doof at January 07, 2021 08:06 AM (mZUr4)

91 I truly wonder how I'm going to react when the come for my guns, because you KNOW they're coming.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (Zz0t1)I live in NYC, I think they will come for mine long before they come for yours. If I could I would I have moved to Texas or Florida long ago. Sadly my job and financial situation are keeping me here.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:07 AM (mcfjc)

92 WISATWP 17/x

One thought I had while leaving the Capitol yesterday is that when the Left took over statehouses, they would chant "this is what democracy looks like."

And that no one would say that about 1/6.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:07 AM (ZfRYq)

93
The states will no longer be bound by a illegitimate compact.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 08:04 AM (W+RZ5)


And not one state will do anything about it.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:07 AM (Zz0t1)

94 I posted last night that I used to kinda joke about CW2. But I am more convinced than ever that it is coming. Not today, not tomorrow, but it is coming.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (ZfRYq)

CW2 is here my friend, and you and I are the enemy of the state.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2021 08:07 AM (5XK0y)

95 "We begged and pleaded"

Nor have we been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred, to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.

Posted by: Marica at January 07, 2021 08:07 AM (ncpbl)

96 We're citizens of the Kingdom of God first, above any earthly home. That's what I'm trying to hold on to.

Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2021 08:07 AM (Izzlo)

97 Say her name: Ashli Babbitt. This beautiful young woman and military veteran was gunned down by a Capitol Hill police thug yesterday. She is the first 2021 casualty of the communist pigs who run the D.C. junta.

Who was the cop who murdered this woman? Where does he live? Why do we not know his race yet, since that seems always to matter so much? Has the DOJ bothered to look into whether this amounted to murder?

I prefer to avoid situations such as yesterday but absolutely refuse to condemn it. Given what terrorists like Idea Antifa and Black Lives Matter have done for going on a decade now, I fully support tit for tat and will donate enthusiastically to any and all defense funds. I want the cop who murdered this woman identified, charged, and prosecuted ASAP. Make him famous.

I watched the grotesque parade of Republicans in the Senate and House and not a single one of them mentioned this woman or her military service. We either start to have political representation, actual representation, or the Evil Empire II has to be toppled.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 08:08 AM (puu6v)

98 any of you are familiar with Armslist

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That's where I sold all of my firearms last year.

Donated all the money to the Biden campaign and planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:08 AM (Gj8Yp)

99
Is that first cop thru the door willing to die to take your rights?

Because I'm willing to die to preserve mine.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 08:06 AM (W+RZ5)


This is what I have been preaching. Told my wife the other day, they better not come to my door. They won't like the response.

Do I have the stones to commit? I sure the fuck hope so.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:08 AM (Zz0t1)

100 I am devastated.

Welcome to the Occupied States of America

I wish you all the best.

I've had a nice 15 years or so here, arguing, debating, learning and laughing.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 07, 2021 08:08 AM (aO8Gd)

101 That's where I sold all of my firearms last year.

Donated all the money to the Biden campaign and planned Parenthood.
Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:08 AM (Gj8Yp)

500 bonus social points,comrade!

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:10 AM (/6GbT)

102 64....

Mark Levin! The "constitutional genius" that grifted millions of conservatives out of $20 or so by writing a fantastic short story suggesting that it would be possible to cobble together at least 37 Republican controlled state legislatures in order to invoke an Article V convention of the states!!!! This despite the FACT that Republicans couldn't even pass a "skinny" Obamacare repeal when they controlled all three branches of the federal government!

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 07, 2021 08:10 AM (Hd73Y)

103 98 You weren't supposed to sell them. You should have had them melted down for the big Vagina statue.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 07, 2021 08:10 AM (I58tH)

104 99 percent of the people who showed up had nothing to do with storming anything. Crap, when I was going home I was still giving tourist advice to people from all over who came to DC for the first time for this rally.


I don't recall Trump inciting anything but a march. DC is based on marches, the march of washington, the million man march, the women's march etc.

as far as I know the only people hurt were Trump supporters. I won't say much more about it because i don't want to criticize people without knowing what they were thinking at the time. But I was there and what I saw was friendly people. They were pissed but they were kind, courteous, and only wanted to be supportive. I did not hear a single word about storming anything. I guess I was lucky that I had to unass the AO right after the speech. But it is wrong that many are being defamed, Most of these people are the best of the best, and this was their first time in DC.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:11 AM (Ls0fP)

105 States will only secede if it is profitable for them to do so.
How to make it profitable is the question.
More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2021 08:11 AM (sVFtl)

106 Corey bush is (technically) a "she". But an excellent point Lizzy. She unseated a 40+ year rep., Lacey Clay. This was with a LOT of Soros $$. St. Louis, what can I say. We live in StL County, run by another D pig, Dr. Sam Page. Even though the County Charter expressly prohibits any other job, he continues to practice medicine, and got $5 mill of Federal C-19 relief routed to his practice for PPE.
We're trying to move out to one of the outer counties now. Sorry, my rage meter pegged last night. It's just kind of aimlessly twitching and spinning around now. God bless, 'rons/'ettes.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 08:11 AM (7Fj9P)

107 WISATWP 18/x

Protests attract all types. We saw some guy paint his own sign. He placed the poster on the ground and squeezed paint out of the tube and he spread it around with gloves. He painted a pumpkin, and below that the word "EATER"

And then he picked it up and ran toward the capitol. THe young lady he was with had a sign that read "ALL YOUR DATA IS VALUABLE."

I have no idea what was going on there.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:11 AM (ZfRYq)

108 Ashli Babbitt was shot for climbing a wall. She was in the building, climbing a wall. Where she was going, I don't know. Don't know anything about the building or what her goals were.

However, did the Capitol Policeman not think about pulling her off the wall, or simply yelling at her?

Why did he feel compelled to shoot? Why was there no reaction to it from the people surrounding the situation?

The video of the incident / murder was very strange to me.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:11 AM (Zz0t1)

109 Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 08:08 AM (puu6v)

Well said.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:12 AM (H8QX8)

110 89 Communism here we come.
Posted by: Dr. Darth Randall at January 07, 2021 08:06 AM (Zpb+m)


I wouldn't mind except for the gulags. And the 70 years it will take until it crashes and burns.

It should only happen to the ChiComs. They did this. They are responsible for our overthrow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:12 AM (s2VJv)

111 We're citizens of the Kingdom of God first, above any earthly home. That's what I'm trying to hold on to.
Posted by: josephistan

Okay

Posted by: JT at January 07, 2021 08:12 AM (arJlL)

112 So who is ready for some peace in our time!

Posted by: Corona-exile_back_in_exile at January 07, 2021 08:12 AM (NA+6h)

113 Is there anyone who's honestly surprised at how things turned out yesterday? I salute the people who went and made a statement. But now the Deep State is ready to start showing their true power, and cement the takeover.

If it wasn't obvious before, it should be painfully obvious now - the Police and the Military are not on our side, and they never will be. We now live in a socialist oligarchy, enforced by the people who we supported and built up for all of these years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (V2Yro)

114 He painted a pumpkin, and below that the word "EATER"

And then he picked it up and ran toward the capitol. THe young lady he was with had a sign that read "ALL YOUR DATA IS VALUABLE."

I have no idea what was going on there.
Posted by: blaster


Doesn't sound like they did either.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (W+RZ5)

115 Our AG (of the state of MI) wants to disbar lawyers who took up suits on the basis of "voter fraud".

These people really do not understand how not to fascist.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (FYe3W)

116 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (arJlL)

117 Now's the time to familiarize yourself with your local sheriff. You want to find one that publicly stated he refuses to enforce the mask nonsense because they're busy with crimes like rape and murder.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (Gj8Yp)

118 Thank, J.J.
We will all do what we can do. This will be different for each of us.
Given that with the possible exception of one person, there is no one in my family that will listen to me, I am very grateful for the support and knowledge here.
Back to work- praying and living a good life.

Posted by: Sal at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (KTdeA)

119 Sorry, J.J., but you still don't get it.

This is a Communist takeover, plain and simple. Communists will not relinquish power peaceably.

Every election law has been broken with impunity. The very foundation that give legitimacy to the Republic - our right to vote - is permanently vanishing.

There's no other possible reason why the Republicans in Congress (and the the state legislatures) have ZERO fear of what their voters thing of any of this. They're virtually all compromised by the Communists.

I never really considered this realistic (I guess I still don't) but I seriously doubt Trump will be alive two years from now if he doesn't do the martial law thing. He will magically develop a fatal illness, like Rush and Bongino, or suddenly die of a strange cause, like Breitbart or Alito.

You might notice that the Dems are not being gracious "winners". This is not our parents' Democratic Party. It's straight up Communist, and we are living Red Dawn now.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (hOOi9)

120 The video of the incident / murder was very strange to me.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:11 AM (Zz0t1)

Seemed there wasn't much reaction to a gunshot... confusion of what her deal was... climbing, suddenly on the ground

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (/6GbT)

121 He painted a pumpkin, and below that the word "EATER"

And then he picked it up and ran toward the capitol. THe young lady he was with had a sign that read "ALL YOUR DATA IS VALUABLE."

I have no idea what was going on there.
Posted by: blaster


Obviously ate the brown acid.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (Zz0t1)

122 !!!! WARNING ABOUT ARMSLIST !!!!

If you buy or sell anything at Armslist, A.) only do business in person, B.) if you decide on purchasing remotely, NEVER wire money. Insist on either using PayPal Friends & Family sans product description or a certified bank check.

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (Hd73Y)

123
However, did the Capitol Policeman not think about pulling her off the wall, or simply yelling at her?

Why did he feel compelled to shoot? Why was there no reaction to it from the people surrounding the situation?

The video of the incident / murder was very strange to me.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:11 AM (Zz0t1)

It appears to be murder, straight up, and fully condoned by the communist pigs in this junta.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (puu6v)

124 It should only happen to the ChiComs. They did this. They are responsible for our overthrow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:12 AM (s2VJv)


By February or March they will take Taiwan, likely they will attempt to push KJU to invade the ROK. The US under Biden or Harris, will not be able to cobble together an alliance of concerned nations to repel this because, those nations are already tied to a big shiny new "free trade" agreement with the ChiComs...welcome to the new world order.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (h81g2)

125 Is there anyone who's honestly surprised at how things turned out yesterday?

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (V2Yro)
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I was pretty much expecting this outcome from November 4th.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:15 AM (FYe3W)

126 He painted a pumpkin, and below that the word "EATER"

And then he picked it up and ran toward the capitol. THe young lady he was with had a sign that read "ALL YOUR DATA IS VALUABLE."

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Honestly, the first thing I thought was the bizarre signs on the side of the football field that signal the next plays to the players.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:15 AM (Gj8Yp)

127 Tell me about Armslist, please.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 08:15 AM (7Fj9P)

128 This is a Communist takeover, plain and simple. Communists will not relinquish power peaceably.

I really hate Commies. I don't think today's Left is Communist. I don't think they really even care about economics and how it works. They only want power. That is it. The tech billionaires are not interested in not being rich.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:15 AM (ZfRYq)

129 Given that with the possible exception of one person, there is no one in my family that will listen to me, I am very grateful for the support and knowledge here.
Posted by: Sal at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (KTdeA)

Likewise.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:16 AM (H8QX8)

130 >>> I blame them for what happened yesterday. For what happened nine weeks ago. For what has happened to this country for the past 60 years by not opposing the overthrow of America as founded and going along to get along, either out of denial, greed or some combination of both.



Well said, JJ.

Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 08:17 AM (KnJdm)

131 The marxists keep on winning. Now their media masters are conning the Gop. Which way do we turn? I feel helpless

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:17 AM (PDYxO)

132 Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (hOOi9)

Trump cannot do the "Martial Law" thing. The military is on the same side as the Capitol Police were yesterday.

it's over.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:17 AM (V2Yro)

133 3 of tge dead died from heart attacks
SOROS. Gives house full health bennies when we riot
Join our side !!
Plus
Hot chicks

Posted by: Attila at January 07, 2021 08:17 AM (C9XT4)

134 Thanks JJ, From my beginnings online with the Protest Warrior page to now this group, it keeps me grounded that I am not alone....."Where do we go from here? Now that the children are grown up. How do we spend our time knowin' nobody gives us a damn...."

Posted by: KWDreaming at January 07, 2021 08:18 AM (cQsu4)

135 One glaring thing we learned yesterday was with regards to us vs. them is that it's OK to shoot us.

Blacks have been saying that cops are hunting them. No. Yesterday proves they're not the hunted. We are.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:18 AM (Zz0t1)

136 Tell me about Armslist, please.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 08:15 AM (7Fj9P)

Craigslist for firearms. Craigslist warnings apply.

Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 08:18 AM (KnJdm)

137 I really hate Commies. I don't think today's Left is Communist. I don't think they really even care about economics and how it works.

They only want power. That is it. The tech billionaires are not interested in not being rich.
Posted by: blaster


Nerd payback for being shoved in a locker.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 08:18 AM (W+RZ5)

138 The set a trap. They want to make Trump a pariah, so he cannot campaign for candidates in 2022. The Gop wants us idiots to go back to the Bushie candidates.

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:19 AM (PDYxO)

139 I don't think today's Left is Communist. I don't think they really even care about economics and how it works. They only want power. That is it. The tech billionaires are not interested in not being rich.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:15 AM (ZfRYq)

I agree. The psychopathological DNA of Communism and other tyrannies is still around of course, but the forms this power is taking are particular to our time.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:19 AM (H8QX8)

140 Alito is dead? Does he know?

Posted by: Antonin Scalia at January 07, 2021 08:19 AM (VhpBk)

141
If it wasn't obvious before, it should be painfully obvious now - the Police and the Military are not on our side, and they never will be. We now live in a socialist oligarchy, enforced by the people who we supported and built up for all of these years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (V2Yro)

True. A young woman and military veteran was gunned down in the Capitol for, at worst, trespass. Everyone knows if she has vandalized the place and was associated with BLM she would have been cited and released without bail.

Take anything you can from this squalid police state and give it nothing.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 08:19 AM (puu6v)

142 111 We're citizens of the Kingdom of God first, above any earthly home. That's what I'm trying to hold on to.
Posted by: josephistan

Okay
Posted by: JT at January 07, 2021 08:12 AM (arJlL)

Me too. His will be done.

It gives me some peace.

At least most of the corruption is now exposed to us. I was blind to it before. Completely blind. I really thought the US government was generally filled with honest people.

What a joke. Those that arent corrupt are just weak.

Posted by: Pres elect LA Sue at January 07, 2021 08:19 AM (Ed8Zd)

143 It appears to be murder, straight up, and fully condoned by the communist pigs in this junta.

To be fair, we had work to do. You know us- work, work, work!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 07, 2021 08:19 AM (4EIFd)

144 I couldn't tell the person that I love and adore the most in the world what I suspected yesterday would bring because she "didn't want to hear that".

I had to avoid the words "the next President" for two months because she could not bear to hear the words "President Biden".

I'm a former Lions' fan. I know defeat when I see it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:19 AM (FYe3W)

145 There is no end game when evil is in charge. Pelosi and company will pursue Trump to the ends of the earth and back. His family will never be left in peace. Nor will we for that matter.

Posted by: Ziba at January 07, 2021 08:20 AM (S1hrL)

146 A question entering my mind today is "How long will JJ be able to do this? How long will this site and sites like it be 'allowed?'"

They coming. They're coming so hard, it'll blow the top of her head off.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:20 AM (Zz0t1)

147 This was the Tea Party Massacre.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 07, 2021 08:20 AM (4tiP2)

148 Gop could win 50 house seats in 2022, but would they get revenge by impeaching Biden or Harris. No. It is not our way says Speaker McCarthy

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (PDYxO)

149 "I know your pain. I know you're hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now, we have to have peace. We have to have law and order, we have to respect our great people in law and order."
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Which the lying media will claim was incitement. Then they will make (are making, actually) the argument that this invalidates everything Trump did, and all who support him.

What, exactly, is the proper response to a government which refuses to redress grievances? I seem to recall something from my history classes, but it's early.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (7X3UV)

150 131 The marxists keep on winning. Now their media masters are conning the Gop. Which way do we turn? I feel helpless
Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:17 AM (PDYxO)

go underground, as much as possible. Live like a secret agent inside Soviet Russia, or a French Resistance fighter in Nazi-occupied France. Let no one except a handful of highly trusted friends know what you are thinking. Wait for the opportunity to do something, or for the chance to help someone else do anything. We live inside an Evil regime now, as of Jan 21, we will all be the Criminals as far as the State is concerned (you saw that yesterday), so learn to think like a criminal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (V2Yro)

151 Alito is dead? Does he know?
Posted by: Antonin Scalia at January 07, 2021 08:19 AM (VhpBk)
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Some late scuttlebutt is that Roberts was overheard talking about Scalia's "replacement" a couple days before he "passed suddenly".

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (FYe3W)

152 Ashli Babbit did four tours of duty fighting for other people's freedom. Died in Our House protesting our disenfranchisement.

Posted by: itsacookbook at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (yPxXc)

153

By February or March they will take Taiwan, likely they will attempt to push KJU to invade the ROK. The US under Biden or Harris, will not be able to cobble together an alliance of concerned nations to repel this because, those nations are already tied to a big shiny new "free trade" agreement with the ChiComs...welcome to the new world order.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (h81g2)

The Harris Junta will actively declare war on Taiwan rather than face loss of investments. One heartening development has been military families, including mine, telling our children and grandchildren NOT to serve this evil regime.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (puu6v)

154 Great post as always JJ.

Posted by: Pres elect LA Sue at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (Ed8Zd)

155 Morning all. Blaster thank you for everything that you wrote upthread. Very interesting. I'm glad all morons are safe.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (nxdel)

156 Heard Georgia Gov. Kemp making a statement about the events and he said something along the line of "during the protests last summer, anarchy and chaos was not allowed to prevail"

WTF? That is exact opposite of reality. National guard was eventfully called in to restore order because anarchy and chaos were prevailing, thanks to Atlanta's BLM mayor. Even then were very restrained and selective in their enforcement. A strong response from the get go would have prevented the anarchy and chaos that followed. Not to mention the constant sucking up BLM and talk of legitimate grievances and kneeling in solidarity by public officials did not help matters.

Posted by: Ripley at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (MxEKc)

157 @102 PacosMojo-He is a constitutional genius. We have no constitution, so now we need a "wartime consiglieri".

He's irrelevant because we're not politicking or voting our way out of this.

Posted by: JROD at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (0jZnq)

158 There is plenty of video evidence that it was Antifa who were let in by the Capitol police, Antifa who broke windows and did other damage, and Antifa who encouraged people to charge with them into the Rotunda. That girl was behind a group of people who were at the door when the POS shot her. It was all planned so the traitors could certify the fraudulent election in the middle of the night without those pesky conservatives giving them hell. How dare we demand that we have a free and fair election? Last night was a disgrace and they were all in on it. All of them.

There will be no unity. There will be only pain for the American people from now on.

Posted by: cjhmhch at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (eSgwh)

159 I was there yesterday and left at the end of Trump's speech. We were at the ellipse for the speech, but we had walked down to the capitol earlier. No crowds were there at the time.

Yesterday was my birthday, and I talked to my mother last night. I got into a small argument with her over "the horror, oh the horror" of people basically breaking some windows and walking through the halls.

I asked her which was worse, burning hundreds of businesses and cities to a crisp, financially ruining them for the rest of their lives, stealing elections with fraud, or someone sitting in Nasty Pelosi's chair. She said they were the same.

I love my mother very much but these two things are not the same. We have been silenced in every way, shape and form and this was all that was left. In hindsight it was inevitable. I was not in the capitol but I sure as hell support their efforts to show their frustrations at being shut out of the America we love.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (nFUmW)

160 119 Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (hOOi9)


Show me what I do not get either in this editorial or any other one I have written these past four years as a oob.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (s2VJv)

161 Given that with the possible exception of one person, there is no one in
my family that will listen to me, I am very grateful for the support
and knowledge here.

Posted by: Sal at January 07, 2021 08:13 AM (KTdeA)

I am sorry about that. I hear that all the time from people and it seems weird to me for some reason. I heard that yesterday at Trump's speech. I met some incredible people and one couple talked to me for two hours. Yeah it sounds bad but it was ok, They were very interesting people Anyway, their kids are uber lefty.

I guess it is all situational. We like all families have our problems, there are people who get along well and others who would rather be left alone. But at least in my immediate family I don't think I can point out a lefty. I guess there was one cousin but she probably grew up over a few decades. I choose to believe that but whatever.

btw, if you are lefty, a normal and not a jagoff, i will gladly tolerate you.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (Ls0fP)

162 Gop could win 50 house seats in 2022, but...

Wait, what? *looks at schedule* No, they won't.

Posted by: DOMINION Voting Systems at January 07, 2021 08:23 AM (4EIFd)

163 I'm a former Lions' fan. I know defeat when I see it.

Oh crap I just laughed so hard I think I woke my husband up!

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at January 07, 2021 08:23 AM (nxdel)

164 131 The marxists keep on winning. Now their media masters are conning the Gop. Which way do we turn? I feel helpless
Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:17 AM (PDYxO)

When redress of grievances become impossible, violence becomes inevitable.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:24 AM (H8QX8)

165

Happy Birthday old man....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 07, 2021 08:24 AM (K2SnJ)

166 Had Trump declared himself an Independent and not run as a Republican, how would this election have turned out? It could have been the best shot at destroying the GOP while still getting re-elected.
I am with you, Mr. Sefton. The GOP must be defeated. The only reason I am a registered Republican is so that I can vote in presidential primaries. I hate that by voting against Democrats, I am on record as theoretically voting for people like McCain and Romney. I did not vote for them in their respective presidential primaries.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 07, 2021 08:24 AM (uc+oy)

167 Fux News' John Roberts: Talk Swirling of Possible Second Impeachment Proceeding Against Trump So He Can't Run for POTUS Again
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I guess they don't quite feel up to defying the Constitution to the extent of calling it a bill of attainder, but that is really what they want.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 07, 2021 08:24 AM (7X3UV)

168
100M+ firearm felons in six months.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:24 AM (Gj8Yp)

169 Another existential question. Why do R(etards) ALWAYS pop off when shit like yesterday happens? Why the need? D(tards) just StFU when their cities are burned, looted and occupied. Why can't Hawley say: "That protest? it's really more of an idea. Now fuck off, I've got guns to clean and mags to load."

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 08:25 AM (7Fj9P)

170 Which the lying media will claim was incitement. Then they will make (are making, actually) the argument that this invalidates everything Trump did, and all who support him.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (7X3UV)
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They really don't need a reason to try to spread this stuff. It's just easier for them to have events to hang things on.

This is a press that ran news cycles of "TRUMP IS NOT LEAVING THE WHITEHOUSE!!!" as a sort of trial "further news" ""analysis"" (more quotes when just scare quotes won't do). They say what they want to say.

That's one of the beauties of constructing narrative. What do I want to say? How do I make it say that?

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:25 AM (FYe3W)

171 "GOP Rep. Kat Cammack: 'It'll be very helpful as she walks past it every day.'" (awesome! - jjs)
Rancida Taliban's New Office Neighbor to Fly Israeli Flag
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I like it too. In fact, despite all, it provoked a smile.

Of course Nan-tse will have a rule against it, ASAP.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 07, 2021 08:25 AM (7X3UV)

172 In Washington State and Oregon the rioters are called protestors....Thats the line that the media takes in those states. What they were protesting in Portland on New Years Eve, no one knows, but they are just protestors.

Posted by: Colin at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (0Y/m7)

173 Big winner: Mitch McConnel. He has enough votes to still be a huge factor, but will be able to keep his fingerprints off of anything he dislikes. This worked out pretty perfectly for him. He even has a wedge to use against Trump etc with yesterdays events.

Minor winner: Tom Cotton seemed to do well for himself during all of this. Hopefully, he can catch fire and win the nomination.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (6/LtX)

174 I am at a loss. My two boys are AD AF. One will be graduating in May from USAFA. We had a short discussion about getting smart about the steal and that his future CIC is questionable. My other son is actually deployed. He sees the math behind the steal.

I was so proud about their service. Now I'm afraid.

Posted by: RedDish on the tablet at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (AjwWO)

175 The marxists would find out who shot her if she was Antifa and make her a martyr. What officer shot here?

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (PDYxO)

176 Why can't Hawley say: "That protest? it's really more of an idea. Now fuck off, I've got guns to clean and mags to load."

Instead of, in essence, "this is The People's house. Get The People out of here!"

Posted by: t-bird at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (4EIFd)

177 I love my mother very much but these two things are not the same. We have been silenced in every way, shape and form and this was all that was left. In hindsight it was inevitable. I was not in the capitol but I sure as hell support their efforts to show their frustrations at being shut out of the America we love.
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (nFUmW)

A devout Christian friend, conservative to the core, told me yesterday as things began looking sporty that Trump should be immediately arrested for inciting violence. The level of idiocy I keep hearing from people on the right who believe themselves intelligent and thoughtful people, is mind-blowing. Very much a sheeple mindset.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (2k7BX)

178 Storm the Bastille. It was always appropriate and is now late.

What is up with Petty Pence? I might have given consideration and validity to his actions yesterday if not for that little snit on Twitter.

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (B0mGw)

179 To all the comfortable FOX News talking empty heads, all the armchair intellectuals with their lucrative media deals and their internet bylines, to all the fiercely conservative kept commentators who have been sitting in front of their green screens with bogus backdrops of DC and New York and the Golden Gate Bridge while talking the talk for President Trump for four years and who now say "violence is not the solution!" I say:
"Tell it to General George Washington."

Posted by: jbspry at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (ATe9j)

180 Peaceful Protestors = Violent thugs organized and financed by the Ruling Class.

Rioters = peaceful citizens demonstrating for their rights.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (V2Yro)

181 So, WOLVERINES!! it is.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (Q87rR)

182 Cotton is a wimp

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:28 AM (PDYxO)

183 What is up with Petty Pence? I might have given consideration and validity to his actions yesterday if not for that little snit on Twitter.

He yearns to lose to Harris in 2024 for the GOP.

Posted by: jbspry at January 07, 2021 08:28 AM (ATe9j)

184 My condolences to Mitt Romney. Now that the Democrats don't NEED his vote, he lost his bargaining position. He will have to go full McCain and settle for crumbs as the Republican "Maverick" on CNN and MSNBC.

Posted by: JB1000 at January 07, 2021 08:28 AM (Kf5r9)

185 Prosperity, growth, peace. Optimal trade deals. Energy independence. Record low unemployment. Record stock markets. A secure border. A better America for all of its citizens.

And for giving us this, the deep state decided to crush Trump.

Consider all of this and then tell me that anything done now qualifies as an unjust reaction.

Posted by: Grip the Weasel at January 07, 2021 08:28 AM (KbCG3)

186 Greetings fappers and fappees. What fresh hell awaits us this day?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Wi Fuct at January 07, 2021 08:28 AM (HaL55)

187 JJ, like another post above, I never comment, but I look forward to your take on events every weekday. I can feel your anguish in today's opening monologue. I feel it myself, but, in a way, it is comforting to know others out there feel the way I do. I don't know what will happen to us, our country, or our future. I try and remember "nothing is as good or bad as it first seems" and "when there is life there is hope". Sometimes, though, a big glass of Jameson's is necessary.

Posted by: jod at January 07, 2021 08:29 AM (7ACvA)

188 I think we all know that we will never see another Republican President in our lifetime. They have gotten away with stealing the 2020 election and now will be emboldened even more.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:29 AM (mcfjc)

189 'Morning, Horde. Not much "good" to it.

So the president begged Americans to come to Washington and then told them to go home.

I'm still processing that one.

Posted by: creeper at January 07, 2021 08:29 AM (XxJt1)

190 @184 JB1000

After Romney's shrieking fit yesterday, he should be glad to settle for being reduced to a meme.

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:29 AM (B0mGw)

191 181 So, WOLVERINES!! it is.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (Q87rR)

Ill laugh if that starts popping up... freeway overpasses highway signs ...

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (/6GbT)

192 I asked her which was worse, burning hundreds of businesses and cities to a crisp, financially ruining them for the rest of their lives, stealing elections with fraud, or someone sitting in Nasty Pelosi's chair. She said they were the same.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (nFUmW)
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Ah. The Demedia has done its job.

They have another one who cannot independently evaluate circumstances.

Another one who dutifully looks to calls of "Look over there!".

They are flooding the bubble with a daily fluid of non-thought lubricates people away from "harder" stances.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (FYe3W)

193 186 Greetings fappers and fappees. What fresh hell awaits us this day?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Wi Fuct at January 07, 2021 08:28 AM (HaL55)

I fear it's going to be the same old hell every day for quite a long time now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (V2Yro)

194 Pence unfollowed Trump on twatter.

Pence stabbed him in the back.

I REALLY need Lin Wood to display his "evidence" on everything he's been spewing over the past month.

This thing is broken. We need to go full monty and take it all the way.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (Zz0t1)

195 @160 JJ Sefton-I think you are still in the "holy shit is this really happening" phase. Yesterday pushed me firmly into acceptance.
I'm sure maybe a month into Obamas third term, when you see them go pedal to the medal, it'll hit you.

I dont know, maybe sooner.

Posted by: JROD at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (0jZnq)

196 131 Jonah: They are not conning the GOP. The GOP is willfully and knowingly generating the steal and retaliation against those who support small government. The GOP has targeted us both behind the scenes and in the open. My greatest hope is that this incident finally wakes up people and they stop with the bull* of we will vote our way out. NO WE WON'T.

Posted by: Lightning at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (HnI4V)

197 173 Big winner: Mitch McConnel. He has enough votes to still be a huge factor, but will be able to keep his fingerprints off of anything he dislikes. This worked out pretty perfectly for him. He even has a wedge to use against Trump etc with yesterdays events.

Minor winner: Tom Cotton seemed to do well for himself during all of this. Hopefully, he can catch fire and win the nomination.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (6/LtX)


Tom Cotton?! RUFKM?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (s2VJv)

198 173....

Tom Cotton is the Military Industrial Complex personified. That, and he's a duplicitous POS.

Posted by: PacosMojo at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (Hd73Y)

199 Peaceful Protestors = Violent thugs organized and financed by the Ruling Class.

Rioters = peaceful citizens demonstrating for their rights.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (V2Yro)
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... and getting shot for making too much racket.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:31 AM (FYe3W)

200 We have not had a break since Ginsberg.

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:31 AM (PDYxO)

201 Last night was a disgrace and they were all in on it. All of them.
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Yeah, DOW futures up +120 right now. The markets like this uni-party look. I'm actually hoping for the (inevitable) structural failure when Treasury's printing presses finally overheat, and the Big Chill sets in. Blame it on Trump. Who the fuck cares at this point?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 08:31 AM (7Fj9P)

202 Posted by: Daisy Cutter at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (nFUmW)

nothing means more than your Mother. I know political views can get heated. I am not trying to minimize it. Everyone has a different perspective based on their lot in life.

It is cool you can go back and forth. i wish I still had that change. But when it comes down to it, leave the politics aside if need be and always respect your Mother. There are plenty of people out there to persuade.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:31 AM (Ls0fP)

203 Thanks for the AAR, blaster.

Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 08:31 AM (KnJdm)

204 200 We have not had a break since Ginsberg.
Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:31 AM (PDYxO)


ACB. Some break.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:32 AM (s2VJv)

205 in this video it looks like the Capitol police were told to let the protesters in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3CXkKtkxVA

Posted by: DinkumThunkim at January 07, 2021 08:32 AM (30XF4)

206 The Trump Base will never support the GOP again.
How does a party based on being loyal losers maintain its seeming viability if it NEVER wins anything?

Posted by: jbspry at January 07, 2021 08:32 AM (ATe9j)

207 I try and remember "nothing is as good or bad as it first seems" and "when there is life there is hope". Sometimes, though, a big glass of Jameson's is necessary.
Posted by: jod at January 07, 2021 08:29 AM (7ACvA)

most of the time that's true - but what's happened over the last few weeks is actually worse that in first seems. Kinda like Russia after Lenin first took over.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:32 AM (V2Yro)

208 I am sorry about that. I hear that all the time from people and it seems weird to me for some reason. I heard that yesterday at Trump's speech
- Quint

It's they're being, like so much of the populace, totally apolitical and a huge amount of normalcy bias. Which I used to have a lot of, so can't fault them there.

My heart breaks for the grandkids, and for the daughter with anxiety disorder, who will not do well in the new America.

Posted by: Sal at January 07, 2021 08:32 AM (KTdeA)

209 > Talk Swirling of Possible Second Impeachment Proceeding Against Trump So He Can't Run for POTUS Again

Dumbasses. Being impeached and removed from federal office does not prevent you from running again, or even winning.

Ask Alcee Hastings how that works.



Posted by: Page, Plant, Bonham, and Jones at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (2q9zZ)

210 @206 jbspry
"How does a party based on being loyal losers maintain its seeming viability if it NEVER wins anything?"

And that's the real damage Trump has done to Republicans. He showed the country what government could do if they stopped spending all their times lining their pockets. The status quo is now obvious and repellant to the people.

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (B0mGw)

211 My son keeps floating the real reason for the Biden bait and switch.

We get President Kamala for closer to 12 years, because somebody can only be *elected* to the office twice.

A Dem finally gets a "legit" third term.

Many have already said we're not being given a vote.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (FYe3W)

212 Why do people continue lying about Pence unfollowing Trump on Twitter? That has been debunked a hundred times here.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (mRtU9)

213 196. Well said, but Trump supporters have to vote with their pocketbook. I know it is hard when you have a family, but cut the cable, minimize Amazon, no Netflix etc... we have hurt Fox News, which is good, but we have to do more

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (PDYxO)

214 I told a veteran friend a few days ago that I wondered what Trump's reaction to be when he was betrayed by Pence. I feel sorry for Trump today. I only hope he is angry even more than I am.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:34 AM (H8QX8)

215
Worse is better.
- V. I. Lenin

Posted by: Rollory at January 07, 2021 08:34 AM (/7rkf)

216 The children do not deserve what's coming. They have already suffered enough. I fear for my son's future.

Posted by: Ziba at January 07, 2021 08:34 AM (S1hrL)

217 191 181 So, WOLVERINES!! it is.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (Q87rR)

Ill laugh if that starts popping up... freeway overpasses highway signs ...
Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (/6GbT)


Dang, Judy! There sure are a lot of Michigan fans across this country. That's the tenth piece of graffiti we've seen since leaving St Louis!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 08:34 AM (Q87rR)

218 >> in this video it looks like the Capitol police were told to let the protesters in:


Capitol police report to the Speaker of the House/
DC mayor Bowser refused the offered assistance from several federal law enforcement agencies.

This was Charlotsvillee 2.o -- they wanted it to appare to be an out of control mob, with antifa false flaggers stirring up violence from within.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 07, 2021 08:34 AM (bDqIh)

219 He will magically develop a fatal illness, like Rush and Bongino

I didn't realize that cancer and lymphoma are "magical" illnesses . Rush has smoked for years. I don't know about Bongino, but you've never known anyone who had lymphoma? Are all high profile people who get diseases and are conservative the victims of a plot?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07, 2021 08:34 AM (VP4Cd)

220 And that's the real damage Trump has done to Republicans. He showed the country what government could do if they stopped spending all their times lining their pockets. The status quo is now obvious and repellant to the people.
Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (B0mGw)
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He also showed what happens if you don't elect a politician, who talks, but a guy who built his business on doing.

The politician class can't have that.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:34 AM (FYe3W)

221 60 56 I truly wonder if yesterday might not have been the seeds of Revolution 2.0 being sown. The majority of our elected officials are just not listening to us.They are complicit in what happened to this country.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (mcfjc)

Or it's the next phase of the coup against us. False flag operation to outlaw us.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:02 AM (s2VJv)
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Both right. SOMETHING has got to get the RINOs attention. This is like the 2x4 in the old joke.
But to the Dems, it will certainly be an opportunity to come down on "the far right".

Posted by: Eeyore at January 07, 2021 08:35 AM (7X3UV)

222 206 The Trump Base will never support the GOP again.
How does a party based on being loyal losers maintain its seeming viability if it NEVER wins anything?
Posted by: jbspry at January 07, 2021 08:32 AM (ATe9j)


The GOP will function as before, but ramped up to eleventy. Block any real conservatives/Trumpists and serve the Krony Korporatists.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:35 AM (s2VJv)

223 181 So, WOLVERINES!! it is.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 08:27 AM (Q87rR)



Ill laugh if that starts popping up... freeway overpasses highway signs ...

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:30 AM (/6GbT)

my high school was a combo of two schools and one got cancelled. There was much battle among the parents over property vaules etc. There were epithets like "rich kids" etc. BTW, the so called "rich kids" lost.

anyway, our new school nickname was Wolverines. And that was back in the Red Dawn era. I loved it.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:35 AM (Ls0fP)

224 Did I miss some unpleasantness somewhere yesterday?

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 07, 2021 08:35 AM (6mvRv)

225 > Treasury's printing presses finally overheat, and the Big Chill sets in. Blame it on Trump. Who the fuck cares at this point?

Oh, they'll be blaming stuff on Emmanuel Goldstein....err..."Trump" for decades to come, you can bet.

Notice that the Califucks are still blaming their homeless problem on "Reagan", even though Reagan hasn't been Governor of California in nearly 50 years.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:35 AM (2q9zZ)

226 How does a party based on being loyal losers maintain its seeming viability if it NEVER wins anything?
Posted by: jbspry at January 07, 2021 08:32 AM (ATe9j)


By design. It's a front. We are truly in a one party system. The GOP is just, as it's been mentioned a billion times here, the Washington Generals against the Globetrotters, only the Dems are nowhere near as talented a team.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:35 AM (Zz0t1)

227 i'm actually hoping the cory bush's bill gets passed and everyone who initially voted or signed or indicated they were going to challenge the electors and then backed out DOES get expelled from congress.

let those fucking fucks find out that it doesn't mater to the commies if you're friendly or nice to them they will still eat you. that's what our "leaders" think, if they're just nice they will be able to enjoy their cushy positions. maybe it's about time the learn a hard truth...

and as for yesterday's events, well, it didn't even get to "fiery but mostly peaceful" so i don't know why the media and dems are complaining...

and as you said JJ, i'm almost to the condoning stage. i mean if this past year has taught me anything, it's that until you start rioting, they don't take you seriously. so, yeah, reap sow whirlwind, some assembly required.

and happy birfday

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 07, 2021 08:36 AM (8D42x)

228 How does a party based on being loyal losers maintain its seeming viability if it NEVER wins anything?

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They're angling for the socialism-lite older voters that went for that nice guy Biden. The younger kids will vote Democrat, and they're going full-on communism.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:36 AM (Gj8Yp)

229 Why do people continue lying about Pence unfollowing Trump on Twitter? That has been debunked a hundred times here.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (mRtU9)


Has it? I read it on 2 different sites this morning stating he did.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:36 AM (Zz0t1)

230 @224 blacksheep

Some people did something.

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:36 AM (B0mGw)

231 What would happen if Trump voters shorted the markets on Jan 21? Went cash

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:37 AM (PDYxO)

232 Why do people continue lying about Pence unfollowing Trump on Twitter? That has been debunked a hundred times here.

Same reason they were yapping about Pence replacing his banner with a pic of Joe and The Hoe yesterday. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. Why bother researching when you've got a juicy bit of gossip?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com was dead, but it's getting better at January 07, 2021 08:37 AM (SchxB)

233 @211 - You can only be President for ten years cumulative.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 07, 2021 08:37 AM (6mvRv)

234 Good Morning, and thanks for the news J.J.

Here's an interesting interview with a guy named Leo Kelly, he tells his story about why he entered the Capital.

https://youtu.be/dOjzEj_r0E4

Posted by: spypeach at January 07, 2021 08:37 AM (Up/Jb)

235 Well, it was fun.

Thankfully the left now has the perfect boogieman to blame all of their failures on forever, just like Bush.

Posted by: Gaff at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (jPS2y)

236 By design. It's a front. We are truly in a one party system. The GOP is just, as it's been mentioned a billion times here, the Washington Generals against the Globetrotters, only the Dems are nowhere near as talented a team.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:35 AM (Zz0t1)
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Yeah, the Dems are like a Globetrotters that has fully-staffed CGI, special effects, and editing squads.

So really, much more like Pearl Harbor, for some definitions of "like".

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (FYe3W)

237 Dumbasses. Being impeached and removed from federal office does not prevent you from running again, or even winning.

Ask Alcee Hastings how that works.
Posted by: Page, Plant, Bonham, and Jones at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (2q9zZ)


There are 2 punishments offered after an impeachment - removal from office, and removal from office and a ban from holding further office.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (ZfRYq)

238 Looks like the administration is making a move to rein in the disparate impact portion of Title VI.

You know, the part where discrimination and racism is proven using statistics.

Statistics...those things not allowed to be used to prove election fraud.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (3D/fK)

239 @232 Blanco

Pence's banner yesterday was Biden and Harris. I saw it myself. May not matter if it's true to you, I guess.

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (B0mGw)

240 I told a veteran friend a few days ago that I wondered what Trump's reaction to be when he was betrayed by Pence.

Did you notice his face during the rally yesterday? Never seen him so serious, so 'steeled'.

Posted by: t-bird at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (XHrkn)

241 Posted by: American at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (FTada)

Stick it in your ear and blow it out your ass, commie.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (Zz0t1)

242 So the president begged Americans to come to Washington and then told them to go home.

I'm still processing that one.
Posted by: creeper at January 07, 2021 08:29 AM (XxJt1)


Yep, have that many take the time to come to DC & basically give the same speech he gave in Georgia two nights earlier, he needed to drop bombs yesterday & he didn't.

Posted by: WeBoned! at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (8k7U7)

243 What would happen if Trump voters shorted the markets on Jan 21? Went cash

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Can't. There are fail safes in place to shut down the market when people are trying to look out for their best interests, same as elections.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (Gj8Yp)

244 Fuck all you Trumpers. Traitorous assholes. You lost.

Posted by: American at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (FTada)
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You OWN reality, damn it!

"Get off my lawn!"

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (FYe3W)

245
MUNG's got that right.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (s2VJv)

246 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE NEIL GORSUCH at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (Pzzpr)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (Zz0t1)

247 > and a ban from holding further office.

There is no constitutional authority for that.

Zero.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (2q9zZ)

248 213 196. Well said, but Trump supporters have to vote with their pocketbook. I know it is hard when you have a family, but cut the cable, minimize Amazon, no Netflix etc... we have hurt Fox News, which is good, but we have to do more
Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (PDYxO)

AMan.

Add to it total avoidance of social media and ostracizing any family member or friend who puts a penny into the pockets of NFL and NBA and increasingly the NHL. I sucked up the additional costs and bought all Christmas presents this year without the use of Amazon. It costs more to avoid this monster, but makes you a better person.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (puu6v)

249 Why do people continue lying about Pence unfollowing Trump on Twitter? That has been debunked a hundred times here.
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This blog was FILLED with Trolls yesterday, posting disinformation and outright lies. I was begging for the banhammer for the worst. They'll most likely be around today, when their mom's leave for work.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (7Fj9P)

250 MUNG's got that right.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (s2VJv)


Yes. However, he's still a dick. Just ask Jeff.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the Mr. Dr. President Elect at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (Zz0t1)

251 Minor winner: Tom Cotton seemed to do well for himself during all of this. Hopefully, he can catch fire and win the nomination.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (6/LtX)


in the market for a bridge ?

Posted by: REDACTED at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (zZxh0)

252 My Trump loyalist brother in law, has a 400 month cable bill from comcast each month, but he still loves Fox news. Drives me crazy

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (PDYxO)

253 Political parties are essentially over with. The idea of dismantling the GOP or building a new party are just empty mental exercises. The deep state is the only party and its dominion is entire; anyone who wishes to function and survive in Washington belongs to it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (H8QX8)

254 > Pence's banner yesterday was Biden and Harris. I saw it myself.

No, it wasn't, and no, you didn't.

It was Pence and his wife seen from behind.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (2q9zZ)

255 222The GOP will function as before, but ramped up to eleventy. Block any real conservatives/Trumpists and serve the Krony Korporatists.


Who will vote them in once their current terms expire? The Democrats?

Posted by: FloridachickTrumpWON! at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (640e/)

256 Pence's banner yesterday was Biden and Harris. I saw it myself. May not matter if it's true to you, I guess.
Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:38 AM (B0mGw)
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No it wasn't. I saw it too. It was Pence and his wife. Open it in a different tab and embiggen.

Also, there was a crowd in front of them. That never happened to Biden and Harris.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 07, 2021 08:41 AM (sGotD)

257 Speak it, MUNG!

Down with Chinamart

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:41 AM (/6GbT)

258 Asking for transparent elections = treason

I wonder if this has ever happened anywhere before? Nah, probably not.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 08:41 AM (Gj8Yp)

259 It's the rank hypocrisy and double-standards we are now prominently seeing that got us here in the first place.

For the better part of a year we've seen law enforcement assaulted and attacked in the most heinous ways. What we didn't see is a single "protestor" shot. A Trump supporter climbs through a window and that's a deadly force incident that results in a "rioters" murder?

I mostly blame the media and they proved again yesterday and this morning why every last one of them should be destroyed. They are a partisan cancer on our society who inflame partisan passion with lies, cover-ups and propaganda. Die in a fire. Every last one of you.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 07, 2021 08:41 AM (VpIIl)

260 There is no constitutional authority for that.

Zero.


Ha! Oh, sorry. I just always laugh when somebody brings up the Constitution.

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at January 07, 2021 08:41 AM (XHrkn)

261 247 > and a ban from holding further office.

There is no constitutional authority for that.

Zero.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (2q9zZ)


"The Constitution. I do not think it means what you think it means!"

- - Uniparty Party

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:42 AM (s2VJv)

262 > Add to it total avoidance of social media

I shut down my most recent Twatter account yesterday.

Probably a futile gesture... it's basically just saving them the trouble of banning me again.

But still.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:42 AM (2q9zZ)

263 The real reason for the outrage about yesterday was that they are apoplectic that the hoi polloi would dare step foot in their gardens to threaten them.

That's why they give zero shits about the optics of yesterday vs the riots in Washington State.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 08:42 AM (Q87rR)

264 Would you trolls please come up with something that even I can appreciate and use on someone else. Man you guys suck. Please, if you have someone with more wit amongst you, send them our way.

Posted by: JROD at January 07, 2021 08:42 AM (0jZnq)

265 @232 Blanco



Pence's banner yesterday was Biden and Harris. I saw it myself. May not matter if it's true to you, I guess.


It was Pence and his wife at a rally at an Airport. It's the same pic that's up right now.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com was dead, but it's getting better at January 07, 2021 08:42 AM (SchxB)

266 Look there was a crop of voters who would vote for "progressive" ideas, and a crop of voters who valued "tradition".

Both those crops can be farmed "for the greater good".

I'm not even committed to calling myself a "conservative" (and I don't care if you call me one either.) And I've advanced this idea for some time.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:43 AM (FYe3W)

267 "I'm too enraged to weep. They have sown the wind and they are going to reap a whirlwind."

Let's hope so JJ.

This "Trump inspired riot" is a load of shit. LE officers removed gates to let protestors in. The doors were opened by LE officers to let people into the Capitol.

And then look at who went in, some old guys w/ canes and some antifa types. Who do you think broke windows and trashed the place?

Setup false flag op from the start. Convince me otherwise.

Posted by: Farmer at January 07, 2021 08:43 AM (55Qr6)

268
Minor winner: Tom Cotton seemed to do well for himself during all of this. Hopefully, he can catch fire and win the nomination.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (6/LtX)

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Good for him.

Im done voting. Ever.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 08:43 AM (nw6Hr)

269 Haven't heard much about the pipe bombs yet. That definable sounds like something that antifa would do, not disgruntled Trumpers. No video camera at RNC/DNC headquarters?

Posted by: Ripley at January 07, 2021 08:43 AM (MxEKc)

270 Wow JJ, I will keep your words to read because I feel the same only I could not have said it so clearly and powerfully. I am truly sad for children who will not know America as it was. Who will not be taught what a wonderful country this has been for the world. And will not know to say the words "hey, its a free country." when they argue with a friend in the street.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 07, 2021 08:44 AM (Dz5W3)

271 So the president begged Americans to come to Washington and then told them to go home. I'm still processing that one.

Posted by: creeper at January 07, 2021 08:29 AM (XxJt1)

I think PDTS put his trust in Pence to do the right thing and refuse to accept any electors from states that did not follow their election laws. Trump never wanted violence and disorder, he wanted a peaceful, large scale display of support for the constitution.

When it came time for Pence to act, Pence revealed himself as the traitor he is and that was the cue for the uniparty's AntiFa team to act. The result was violence and death. Trump went on air and asked everyone to go home in peace.

I said last night that this was all a Reichstag moment without the fire.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2021 08:44 AM (5XK0y)

272 Squid hunt look at Pences Twitter right now. It is the same banner he has had for two months He and Karen waving to a rally crowd. He is still linked to Trump although I think Trumps Twitter is on a 12 hour suspension. Stop the bullshit.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 07, 2021 08:44 AM (mRtU9)

273 Who cares about pence... another deep state shit.

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:45 AM (/6GbT)

274 Blaster's comments starting around Comment number 18 and continuing in the 40s parallel my own experience. I too had skipped the gathering on the Ellipse, but on my way to the Capitol from the train station stopped at as small park where what appeared to be an anti-vaxxer group had set up a stage and TV that showed Trump's speech between 12:00 and 1:00. I got to the northeast lawn of the Capitol shortly after 1:00, after Trump had finished speaking. Not many people there. I was surprised that no marchers from the Ellipse event were arriving. I saw the central staircase on the East entrance get occupied but I don't recall seeing the other two staircases get occupied. Around 2:30 I walked to the West facade. The few police I saw made no effort to engage the protesters or prevent their movement around the north end of the Capitol. I walked along the west portico and viewed the crowd down below. As I neared the upper area of the stage and seating for the Ignauguration, I smelled tear gas. A young man on the portico discharged a fire extinguisher onto a police officer standing below, which seems to have been where the tear gas had been fired. I then left the Capitol at 2:38.

Posted by: Witness at January 07, 2021 08:45 AM (SWWep)

275 f pence, never voting for gop again, only a 3rd party
fox is still dead to me, removed all traces of them from my home

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:45 AM (sfhL4)

276 The troubles of my heart are enlarged: O bring thou me out of my distresses. Look upon mine affliction and my pain; and forgive all my sins.

Consider mine enemies; for they are many; and they hate me with cruel hatred. O keep my soul, and deliver me: let me not be ashamed; for I put my trust in thee.

Let integrity and uprightness preserve me; for I wait on thee.

Posted by: mindful webworker
somewhere in real America
at January 07, 2021 08:45 AM (Vddbf)

277 The blog is once again filled with trolls and malcontents spreading disinformation and trying to stir passions. The same people who mixed in with Trump supporters yesterday and caused destruction.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 07, 2021 08:45 AM (VpIIl)

278
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347105581962727425

Pelosi elbowing him like she was welcoming him back to the club is more disturbing.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 08:46 AM (nw6Hr)

279 being blocked from posting just about anything

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:46 AM (sfhL4)

280 > "The Constitution. I do not think it means what you think it means!"


Meh. Every time they stomp the Constitution into the ground a little farther means more people deciding that they've Had Enough.

When enough people have Had Enough, then the fun begins.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:46 AM (2q9zZ)

281 280. We have antifa?

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 08:46 AM (ONvIw)

282 There is no constitutional authority for that.

Zero.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:39 AM (2q9zZ)


Well, except for Article I...

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:46 AM (ZfRYq)

283 Threw my newspaper in the trash. Will stop paying for it asap.

Posted by: klaftern at January 07, 2021 08:46 AM (RuIsu)

284 As depressing as it is to witness the destruction of my beloved country, I can take a little comfort in knowing I'll never vote again. What's the point? It doesn't matter anyway. I didn't vote for NAFTA but got that good and hard.

Oh well, it was fun for a while and I made a little bit of money which is all gone. There's no future and nothing to look forward to except more pain and suffering.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Wi Fuct at January 07, 2021 08:46 AM (HaL55)

285 265 The real reason for the outrage about yesterday was that they are apoplectic that the hoi polloi would dare step foot in their gardens to threaten them.

That's why they give zero shits about the optics of yesterday vs the riots in Washington State.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 08:42 AM (Q87rR)

I think it is more than that. I think they were embarrassed. We saw all the reports of them fleeing and running like scattering cockroaches as the Capitol was breached. Hiding in tunnels.

The protestors harmed their self image- that cannot be allowed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 08:47 AM (lmikk)

286 Why do people continue lying about Pence unfollowing Trump on Twitter? That has been debunked a hundred times here.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (mRtU9)
***********
Probably the person that originally started it wants to stir the pot and keep pouring gasoline onto the fire.
This happens with a lot of things hoping that people like us and other sites etc. spread the rumor.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 08:47 AM (NpAcC)

287 "along with the certification of Joe-Blow as the legitimate winner of the 2020 election."

They can certify Biden the winner, but they can't certify legitimacy.

I was angry with Trump for allowing this to happen, but it was confirmed yesterday that he was completely and continuously surrounded by traitors to him personally, his office, and the country and the Presidency is a big job, especially if you have to do it without any assistance and with constant actual subversion.

But Biden will never be considered legitimate, and wherever he or soon-to- be President Harris go, they will be greeted by flipped birds and bare-asses flashed at their personages by patriots who used to respect the office.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 08:47 AM (kfcYC)

288
the tiniest glimmer of hope (which no doubt will be mocked), but if you saw and heard some of the video clips of the Italy/JEF conspiracy of this last night...it is indeed interesting

over at noqreport.com

Today, you'll hear Trump conceded. He didn't. He's likely just buying time.

Victory bells are already ringing around Twitterville and across mainstream media. But read the statement from President Trump closely. One does not have to be in Q Anon to see this wasn't really a concession.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (sfhL4)

289
one can hope

Global defense contractor IT expert testifies in Italian court he and others switched votes in the U.S. presidential race

This blockbuster press release, if true, is the "MOAB"-Mother Of All Bombshells-that should break open the entire election fraud scheme. Is this it? We'll see.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (sfhL4)

290

why is so much being blocked?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (sfhL4)

291 I saw this story on Twitchy yesterday how the progs are all giving Mitt kudos for his speech. "Could he run in 2024?" ask all the Twidiots who will never vote for him because of dogs on the roof of cars, haircut-rapes, giving that lady cancer, and binders full of women.

A politician gives speeches. It's what they do. They *mean* for them to sound epic. That's what they are supposed to do. They are meant to *appeal*.

Trump wasn't about speeches. Nobody is voting for Mitt II.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (FYe3W)

292 290 Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 08:47 AM (kfcYC)


I was not implying he is legitimate, just that that was the process. Sham that it was.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (s2VJv)

293 "Setup false flag op from the start. Convince me otherwise.





Posted by: Farmer"

The immediate reaction is a tell. Just like all the phony hate crimes, police killing of thugs and or some random noose/graffiti, everybody on the right jumped on the bandwagon and denounced the designated target to show they are good people on the right side of history.

Posted by: Ripley at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (MxEKc)

294 252 My Trump loyalist brother in law, has a 400 month cable bill from comcast each month, but he still loves Fox news. Drives me crazy
Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (PDYxO)

He will need that $400 a month soon enough after China Joe and the Diseased Pissflap sink the economy.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (puu6v)

295 >>The GOP will function as before, but ramped up to eleventy. Block any real conservatives/Trumpists and serve the Krony Korporatists.



FWIW (and not worth much more than a gesture), we woke Fox News the Hell up when half of ther regular viewers switched the channel the day after the election. That hurt, and continues to hurt them. Don;t let uo.

While our small dollar donations to candidates and GOP national groups can never compete with the tech billionaires, Koch's etc., there has to be a way to send a similar message. Maybe the way to do this is organize a mass voter registration update -- all of us who are registered Republican go in and request that to be changed to unaffiliated/independent (whatever your state offers as the not Dem or GOP option).

As with Fox non-viewers, if you're already unaffiliated so be it. But I think this would be a great way to say "We're dumping you" loud and clear without having to involve money or the media.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 07, 2021 08:49 AM (bDqIh)

296
Global defense contractor IT expert testifies in Italian court he and others switched votes in the U.S. presidential race

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Never heard of it. Neither will anybody else.

~Charlie Gibson

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 08:49 AM (nw6Hr)

297
Why do people continue lying about Pence unfollowing Trump on Twitter? That has been debunked a hundred times here.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (mRtU9)

there has been Pence hate from day one. I am not getting into the events of the last few weeks because to be hones, I have not followed them. I had a very nice lady at the Rally bring up Qanon and I made it pretty clear I would check it out but wasn't interested in discussing it for a few hours. She was very cool by the way.
I in general respect Pence and this has nothing to do with the last couple of months, like I said I have not followed it. I guess I am old school. conservative and I posted yesterday so that should say it all at least to most people.
What I like about Pence is he risked his career to "normalize" Trump. Not many would have done that as they were mostly cowardly. Trump needed an old school conservative and Pence offered that.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:49 AM (Ls0fP)

298 Here's footage of Capitol police shooting Ashli Babbit

https://twitter.com/i/status/1347076676342185984

He stepped up and shot her from the other side of the door.. Looks like a black cop.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2021 08:50 AM (CjFDo)

299 I'd love it if every speech harris/hidin does, drowned out by fraud chant

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:50 AM (/6GbT)

300 292
one can hope

Global defense contractor IT expert testifies in Italian court he and others switched votes in the U.S. presidential race

This blockbuster press release, if true, is the "MOAB"-Mother Of All Bombshells-that should break open the entire election fraud scheme. Is this it? We'll see.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (sfhL4)

Too late.

There is no other recourse. Well, except one.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:51 AM (s2VJv)

301 why is so much being blocked?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (sfhL4)

What is being blocked?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 08:51 AM (lmikk)

302 >>> why is so much being blocked?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:48 AM (sfhL4)


There's a statement in the sidebar from ace. It was done to save the site from some nasty trolls that were destroying it. You have to have less than 8 carriage returns and fewer than 600 characters total I think. When quoting someone else remove most of their carriage returns.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 07, 2021 08:51 AM (l6b3d)

303 My Trump loyalist brother in law, has a 400 month cable bill from comcast each month, but he still loves Fox news. Drives me crazy

Posted by: Jonah at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (PDYxO)


I know people like that and they still think that Drudge is a conservative site.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2021 08:51 AM (t8ef1)

304 Blaster, thank you for the report (and your group, for showing up).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at January 07, 2021 08:52 AM (Dc2NZ)

305 You know what? I'm not as depressed as I was after Gaylord got elected, and not NEARLY as depressed as I was after he got reelected.

Gaylord had a massive cult following.

Dopey Joe and the Ho... do not. Their only selling point is "Not Trump". You do not see school children singing hymns to Dopey Joe and the Ho. You do not see thousands of wine moms swooning over Dopey Joe. You don't even see Strong Independent Women singing the praises of the Ho. No one likes these people. No one.

Dopey Joe has been in office for nearly 50 years with no major accomplishments other than collecting graft. The Ho is so deeply unlikable that she was forced to drop out of her own party's primary without winning a single delegate.

(continued)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:52 AM (2q9zZ)

306 If this is truly over, I wish Trump glorious retirement years. He deserves them and really put it all on the line, similar to our founding fathers. The only way I see myself encouraging a run in 2024 is if I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he will live a healthy life into his hundred and twenties. What a beast of a worker. I hope the communists are unsuccessful at destroying his fortune. I also wish the best for his children and the dynasty, but history shows how corrupted most third generation heirs become. It will be interesting to see how Barron fairs. I wish the best for him, too.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 07, 2021 08:52 AM (uc+oy)

307 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347076676342185984

He stepped up and shot her from the other side of the door.. Looks like a black cop.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2021 08:50 AM (CjFDo)

Wow, that was pretty clear. He won't be arrested they will give him a medal of bravery for killing a terrorist. Unbelievable.

Posted by: spypeach at January 07, 2021 08:52 AM (Up/Jb)

308 I'd love it if every speech harris/hidin does, drowned out by fraud chant
Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:50 AM (/6GbT)
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Actually: attend a Biden speech and repeatedly call "Yeah, but what does Kamala think?!"

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:52 AM (FYe3W)

309 I might be in the weeds here but we all have to say what we believe. What really did it for me with Pence was when he and Trump were campaigning in PA in 2016. Pence took time off with his daughter to tour the Gettysburg National Battlefield. They taped it and it is on the Cspan site if it hasn't been scrubbed.

He seemed to genuine there. For sure he was not there to get votes. Maybe from me and a few hundred like me but I doubt it. Not saying he can't do wrong. I know many really don't like him from earlier days but I never had a problem with the guy.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:52 AM (Ls0fP)

310 I'd love it if every speech harris/hidin does, drowned out by fraud chant

They're not going out in public much. It'll be speeches via TV, with media fawning over them and weak rebuttals by GOP squishes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com was dead, but it's getting better at January 07, 2021 08:52 AM (SchxB)

311 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347076676342185984

He stepped up and shot her from the other side of the door.. Looks like a black cop.

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Whoa.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (nw6Hr)

312 So, yeah, could be worse. They could have another charismatic Obama in office. But they don't.

What do I expect from Dopey Joe and the Ho? Lots of graft. Little or no movement toward Full Communism. That would be bad for Bidness. They're both venal corruptocrats of the sort the country has survived many times before. Like the Clintons.

Obama, on the other hand, actually believed that shit.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (2q9zZ)

313 >>> He stepped up and shot her from the other side of the door.. Looks like a black cop.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2021 08:50 AM (CjFDo)


The Biden method. Fitting.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (l6b3d)

314 What is being blocked?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 08:51 AM (lmikk)


I have had to break my comments into multiple ones, otherwise I am getting "spamming" errors

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (sfhL4)

315 Already mentioned?

Our betters on Capitol Hill were more vocal about the events of yesterday than when a lone Bernie bro, Maddow superfan nearly killed 30 or so Congressional Republicans.

I don't recall any loud denunciations from Schumer or Pelosi, no likening to Peal Harbor or 9/11, despite this being a domestic terror attack designed to change the balance of power in the House to retain Obamacare.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (bDqIh)

316 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347076676342185984

He stepped up and shot her from the other side of the door.. Looks like a black cop.



He looks like he's wearing a suit.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2021 08:54 AM (t8ef1)

317 The blog is once again filled with trolls and malcontents spreading disinformation and trying to stir passions. The same people who mixed in with Trump supporters yesterday and caused destruction.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 07, 2021 08:45 AM (VpIIl)
*********
I see it and it worries because this is such a great place.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 08:54 AM (NpAcC)

318 0-ANON:
Initiate Bidenwatch. Time's a wastin'! Kamalamadingdong's to-do list kreusening
Careful, Fido.

Posted by: klaftern at January 07, 2021 08:54 AM (RuIsu)

319 I have had to break my comments into multiple ones, otherwise I am getting "spamming" errors
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (sfhL4)

As someone else mentioned they put in an 8ish break limit on all posts. So if you want to post a long rant, break it up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 08:54 AM (lmikk)

320 Thanks for all you do, J.J.

I fully condone what happened yesterday. It wasn't a false flag. It was our anger, not somebody else's.

Its not over, and Trump has not conceded. There will be a smooth transition to a second term.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 07, 2021 08:54 AM (OssQ4)

321 I have had to break my comments into multiple ones, otherwise I am getting "spamming" errors
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (sfhL4)

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Take your usual well thought out posts that are organized into articulate paragraphs and mash them together into one long run on paragraph.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 08:55 AM (nw6Hr)

322 There's a statement in the sidebar from ace. It was done to save the site from some nasty trolls that were destroying it. You have to have less than 8 carriage returns and fewer than 600 characters total I think. When quoting someone else remove most of their carriage returns.
Posted by: banana Dream at January 07, 2021 08:51 AM (l6b3d)


Thanks. Haven't been around. Giving up on the country completely and about to just disappear.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 08:55 AM (sfhL4)

323 I cant find the Steyn rant it has been taken down

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2021 08:55 AM (5QBw6)

324 at this point, i would love to know where we go from here. since the GOP is a rotting corpse, and the dems will do what they can to now blacklist all conservatives, all Trump supporters, and anyone who dares question the left's narrative- who are we to follow?
Trump won't be the answer. After yesterday's events, he will be hounded. They will go full spectrum ops on him and his family- jail, asset forfeiture, political pressure on any friends and allies- and create lists.
Oh yes. Take AOC at her word. She will be creating lists. And Hillary has a long memory as well- don't think for one moment we have seen the last of her.
So if Trump won't be there to challenge them (because as we have seen- he will be deplatformed as well) then who at the national level are we to follow and rally behind? Who at the national level will rally for us and the Constitution?
I ask- not rhetorically, because I generally can't answer that myself.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 08:55 AM (C7zIl)

325 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347105581962727425

Pelosi elbowing him like she was welcoming him back to the club is more disturbing.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 08:46 AM (nw6Hr)

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Holy sh*t, that gesture by Pelosi is disturbing as hell.

Pence was an inside man.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is halfway wondering if the FBI is antifa at January 07, 2021 08:55 AM (ylp2r)

326 Im done voting. Ever.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 08:43

Said that to Jules, after she said it. And a minute later I said...Fuck No, that's what they want. I am NOT going to give up my country to these commies.

Posted by: Farmer at January 07, 2021 08:55 AM (55Qr6)

327 I fully condone what happened yesterday. It wasn't a false flag. It was our anger, not somebody else's.

Its not over, and Trump has not conceded. There will be a smooth transition to a second term.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 07, 2021 08:54 AM (OssQ4)


1. Yes.

2. No.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 08:55 AM (ZfRYq)

328 Well 244 years was a pretty good run wasn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (qlFIA)

329 324
Its not over, and Trump has not conceded. There will be a smooth transition to a second term.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 07, 2021 08:54 AM (OssQ4)


I don't see it. Certainly not smooth. But I love your optimism.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (s2VJv)

330 See if the Chan's can ID the muderer... nobody else will

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (/6GbT)

331 When they come for the Second Amendment it's time to Use the Second Amendment.

Live Free or Die.

Posted by: firefirefire at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (vwM8Q)

332 Morning all. Remember to get to a safe location.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (Zm+LZ)

333 I will give this one little tidbit from yesterday. I am very reticent to offer anything that might be deemed fake news. I will go off about booze, history, music etc. But when it comes to news facts, I take that very seriously and am annoyed when people spout stuff here that is easily debunked. We are not here to trick our own kind.

Anyway. I was at the rally and everyone around me could not get net access on their phones. It was not one person, it was everyone around me. in the middle of DC that seemed to be very strange. This was long before the events that happened later. If anyone else was there and can fact check me, please do so.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (Ls0fP)

334 Already mentioned?

Our betters on Capitol Hill were more vocal about the events of yesterday than when a lone Bernie bro, Maddow superfan nearly killed 30 or so Congressional Republicans.

I don't recall any loud denunciations from Schumer or Pelosi, no likening to Peal Harbor or 9/11, despite this being a domestic terror attack designed to change the balance of power in the House to retain Obamacare.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (bDqIh)
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I did, but it's always nice to hear the same reaction from others in different words.

There was nothing near this type of alarm when somebody single-handedly thought to rebalance Congress (if only he had trained more with the mg).

If I remember, there was barely anything but shrugs from the other side.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (FYe3W)

335 332 Well 244 years was a pretty good run wasn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (qlFIA)


Only about 160 years of it

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (s2VJv)

336 What I like about Pence is he risked his career to "normalize" Trump. Not many would have done that as they were mostly cowardly. Trump needed an old school conservative and Pence offered that.

Looking back now, Pence was never anything more than a mole. He didn't normalize Trump, he kept Trump in check as far as he could without revealing himself.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (5XK0y)

337 Pence is a "let's not make waves" kind of guy. Great for when the going is good, not for when tough choices have to be made, like yesterday.

Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (Izzlo)

338 Little or no movement toward Full Communism. That would be bad for Bidness. They're both venal corruptocrats of the sort the country has survived many times before. Like the Clintons.

Obama, on the other hand, actually believed that shit.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Agree. They have as much to lose as anyone, should the current graft situation change to something ruthlessly commie. We have commie-light, almost, but not quite. They need to keep fake patriotism afloat for maximum graft, minimal rebellion.

Posted by: lizabth at January 07, 2021 08:57 AM (L3Rsz)

339 Well 244 years was a pretty good run wasn't it?


Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (qlFIA)

a republic if you can keep it.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:57 AM (Ls0fP)

340 Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (hOOi9)

Trump will magically develop a fatal illness like Rush or Bongino? This sounds like conspiracy stuff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07, 2021 08:57 AM (VP4Cd)

341 Sure looks like Trump conceded yesterday.

If he didn't mean it to be a concession, we'll, the left sees it that way.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 08:57 AM (Q87rR)

342 the country does not have the time nor the resources to last through the torment that it will take to wake people up

some other catastrophic event will intervene before this occurs

maybe not in the next 10 but next the 20 or 30 years, absolutely

Posted by: REDACTED at January 07, 2021 08:57 AM (zZxh0)

343 "I think PDTS put his trust in Pence to do the right thing and refuse to accept any electors from states that did not follow their election laws."


If so, that was sadly naive.

Fact is, he encouraged people to come, said it would be "wild," said nothing new or leaderly or indicative of any plan going forward to motivate or instruct his followers, then when violence broke out (as most knew it would), admonished us to back the thuggish police (who murdered one of his supporters) and to quietly go home. Moreover, he was unprepared to combat the predictable media narrative anybody could see coming a mile away, meaning he apparently learned nothing from Charlottesville. He should have had teams of videographers positioned all over the rally. The whole event was a tragic flub.

But certain unintended consequences may prove meaningful in the longer run.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 08:58 AM (H8QX8)

344
I'm listening to the local conservative radio station. The callers are really giving it to them. Ripping their left wing newscasts. Sick of them quoting CNN. CNN is nothing but lies stop quoting them. I think "conservative" media is in for a real wake up call. They are all going to go the way of Fox News ratings if they think they can still play cute with the NRO and Tepid Gas twats.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2021 08:58 AM (t8ef1)

345 ....the ones who did not "fight" as in stand their ground on principal but acquiesced because they didn't want to look like "those" people...are cowards...trump incited nothing...God, protect America from evil.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 07, 2021 08:58 AM (CqHIp)

346 @280 Marcus T
"The blog is once again filled with trolls and malcontents spreading disinformation and trying to stir passions."

All I see are a bunch of mealy-mouths trying to push the inherent nobility of Pence and poo-poo any chance of another Trump run. Back into the fold, sheep!

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:58 AM (B0mGw)

347 God bless you, J.J. Sefton. You get it.

Posted by: throatwobblermangrove at January 07, 2021 08:58 AM (UpK7i)

348 a republic if you can keep it.
Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:57 AM (Ls0fP)
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Whoopsie!

Posted by: 2020 at January 07, 2021 08:59 AM (FYe3W)

349 251 Minor winner: Tom Cotton seemed to do well for himself during all of this. Hopefully, he can catch fire and win the nomination.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 07, 2021 08:26 AM (6/LtX)


in the market for a bridge ?
Posted by: REDACTED at January 07, 2021 08:40 AM (zZxh0)

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hahahahaha exactly.

Tom Cotton is shit. Fuck him.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 07, 2021 08:59 AM (FMoYW)

350 Read it closer. Especially the word "first". And in light of what Rudy said about an orderly transition to a second term. You don't say " first" if there's no second.

That would be like referring to the first Blazing Saddles.

You would wonder why I used that word.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 07, 2021 08:59 AM (OssQ4)

351 341 Pence is a "let's not make waves" kind of guy. Great for when the going is good, not for when tough choices have to be made, like yesterday.
Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (Izzlo)

That's my read on it too. Every one of these guys and gals figure they can restore normalcy if they just go along and try to tamp down on the flare ups.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:00 AM (lmikk)

352 Looking back now, Pence was never anything more than a mole. He didn't normalize Trump, he kept Trump in check as far as he could without revealing himself.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (5XK0y)

He didn't need normalizing. And Pence changed the format for EC cert from correct in form to "regular".

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:00 AM (ONvIw)

353 352 God bless you, J.J. Sefton. You get it.
Posted by: throatwobblermangrove at January 07, 2021 08:58 AM (UpK7i)


One of these days, I'm gonna get it, Like that poor woman.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 09:00 AM (s2VJv)

354

aid that to Jules, after she said it. And a minute later I said...Fuck No, that's what they want. I am NOT going to give up my country to these commies.
Posted by: Farmer at January 07, 2021 08:55 AM (55Qr6)

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Nope. I will not participate in a system that flagarantly breaks rules and cheats to get the outcome THEY desire. I will not participate.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:00 AM (nw6Hr)

355 Tom Cotton is shit. Fuck him.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 07, 2021 08:59 AM (FMoYW)

I certainly won't vote for the cottonmouth

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (ONvIw)

356 He seemed to genuine there. For sure he was not there to get votes. Maybe from me and a few hundred like me but I doubt it. Not saying he can't do wrong. I know many really don't like him from earlier days but I never had a problem with the guy.
Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 08:52 AM (Ls0fP)
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I'm angry, but I'm not angry at Pence. He never tried to steal the limelight and always went out of his way to show Trump in a good light.
I think he is old school in the way he does things and probably too nice to shake things up

Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (NpAcC)

357 357 341 Pence is a "let's not make waves" kind of guy. Great for when the going is good, not for when tough choices have to be made, like yesterday.
Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (Izzlo)

That's my read on it too. Every one of these guys and gals figure they can restore normalcy if they just go along and try to tamp down on the flare ups.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:00 AM (lmikk


At some point the GOP will figure out that they just eroded all their support.

Maybe when all the donors except Chyna dry up?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (Q87rR)

358 You know when we put people up against the wall before we machine-gunned them down---that was some CHAOS!

Posted by: T-shirt Guy Che at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (FYe3W)

359 What do I expect from Dopey Joe and the Ho? Lots of graft. Little or no movement toward Full Communism. That would be bad for Bidness. They're both venal corruptocrats of the sort the country has survived many times before. Like the Clintons.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 08:53 AM (2q9zZ)

Quibble - Cumala is, I believe, a True Believer(tm) and, like most of them, a Ticket Taking sociopath. She could be extremely dangerous. She will do whatever her masters (who I'm betting are the ChiComs) tell her to do.

She is also, however, and as you point out, about as likeable as a scorching case of clap, which I'm sure she knows plenty about.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (NYS7S)

360 Dopey Joe and the Ho... do not. Their only selling point is "Not Trump". You do not see school children singing hymns to Dopey Joe and the Ho. You do not see thousands of wine moms swooning over Dopey Joe. You don't even see Strong Independent Women singing the praises of the Ho. No one likes these people. No one.

The wine moms are worshiping Tank Abrams, weirdly. Gretchen Whitmer, the governess of Michigan, posted a photo yesterday of a Tank devotional candle that she had lit. I'm still flabbergasted by that.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (6XLoz)

361 343 Well 244 years was a pretty good run wasn't it?


Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (qlFIA)

Welcome to Americaland. The rules are: There Are No Rules. If you have power use it. Use it to crush your opposition before they crush you. There are no limits upon the government, no consent of the governed, so figure out how to gain and wield influence and power, whether it be through money, information or Antifa style violence, because that's all there is now.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at January 07, 2021 09:02 AM (Wm5SB)

362 362 Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (NpAcC)


Sorry. Not buying it. He's old enough and been there long enough to see what's going on.

When the chips were down, he failed this nation. Miserably.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 09:02 AM (s2VJv)

363
New meme for the new administration.


Cheated. Then Seated.


spread it far and wide.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:02 AM (nw6Hr)

364 Nobody fought for the people. Nobody even entertained the material proof of fraud and illegality. The Supreme Court abandoned defense of the Constitution. Legislatures demurred as rights were trampled and their power was usurped. The media hid the fraud and supported their masters, social media crushed debate and the truth.

What did they think would happen when the people were abandoned and truth was crushed in this way?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (VpIIl)

365 @Doctor.Boom

I don't believe Harris is a true believer. She is the worst form of crass cynic using the system to take everything she can get out of it. I do agree she's extremely dangerous because she's soulless.

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (B0mGw)

366 At some point the GOP will figure out that they just eroded all their support.

Maybe when all the donors except Chyna dry up?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (Q87rR)

Well, that is the funny thing about punching a keypad to get the election outcome you want- you can get whatever outcome you want. The thing is- they don't own the keypad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (lmikk)

367 6 Trump should resign and give this shitshow to Pence.
Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 07:49 AM (qF62U)

I like that idea.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (uc+oy)

368 I'll repost this comment from earlier.

When you get a fundraising letter from the GOP use the prepaid envelope put a card in it that says (clearly):

GO FUCK YOURSELVES

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (FMoYW)

369 At some point the GOP will figure out that they just eroded all their support.

Maybe when all the donors except Chyna dry up?

Posted by: AlaBAMA


As long as Chyna money rolls in, they don't need your vote. Dominion will provide them with the votes needed to win.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (W+RZ5)

370 Look, I completely understand the anger at Pence. But in the end he was, is, and ever shall be a Company Man - worse, an "Indian Nice" version of same, "politeness" above all else.

Which is precisely why you're going to see the waste-products of CONservative, Inc. going all in on "niceness" and "politeness" as the antidote to Trumpism for the next year or so.

They so desperately want to get back to their "lose with dignity" grift.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (NYS7S)

371 374 6 Trump should resign and give this shitshow to Pence.
Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 07:49 AM (qF62U)

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Yes.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (FMoYW)

372 Welcome to Americaland. The rules are: There Are No Rules. If you have power use it. Use it to crush your opposition before they crush you. There are no limits upon the government, no consent of the governed, so figure out how to gain and wield influence and power, whether it be through money, information or Antifa style violence, because that's all there is now.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at January 07, 2021 09:02 AM (Wm5SB)
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But you first have to wrap it in the *good* that you are doing!

The "true morals" and "order" you are upholding!

Posted by: Rules of Americaland at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (FYe3W)

373 >>> The wine moms are worshiping Tank Abrams, weirdly. Gretchen Whitmer, the governess of Michigan, posted a photo yesterday of a Tank devotional candle that she had lit. I'm still flabbergasted by that.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (6XLoz)


All true. She's pretty much the new oprah.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 07, 2021 09:04 AM (l6b3d)

374 Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 08:14 AM (hOOi9)

Trump will magically develop a fatal illness like Rush or Bongino? This sounds like conspiracy stuff.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07, 2021 08:57 AM (VP4Cd)
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Rush is dying and Bongino has been going through chemo.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 09:04 AM (NpAcC)

375 Pack the supreme court. Seat the squad with AOC as Chief Justice and make John Roberts suck her strap on every morning.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:04 AM (PMAX0)

376 Looking back now, Pence was never anything more than a mole. He didn't normalize Trump, he kept Trump in check as far as he could without revealing himself.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2021 08:56 AM (5XK0y)

He didn't need normalizing. And Pence changed the format for EC cert from correct in form to "regular".
Posted by: CN
........

Pence was added to the ticket for one reason only.. stability.. a trusted conservative who could be trusted to take over if the loose canon Trump went off the rails.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2021 09:04 AM (CjFDo)

377
Quibble - Cumala is, I believe, a True Believer(tm) and, like most of them, a Ticket Taking sociopath. She could be extremely dangerous. She will do whatever her masters (who I'm betting are the ChiComs) tell her to do.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (NYS7S)

Sooo Womanchurian Candidate?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at January 07, 2021 09:04 AM (Wm5SB)

378 When you get a fundraising letter from the GOP use the prepaid envelope put a card in it that says (clearly):

GO FUCK YOURSELVES
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (FMoYW)
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Tape the prepaid envelope to a box of rocks, first.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:04 AM (FYe3W)

379
As long as Chyna money rolls in, they don't need your vote. Dominion will provide them with the votes needed to win.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (W+RZ5


Start a movement where all conservatives agree to write in Mickey Mouse. Then when Mickey, Mitt and Kamala all end up with as many votes as their are voters, the people will get it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (Q87rR)

380 Don't let them trick you into taking ownership of the violence. What we saw yesterday was civil disobedience, and the only violence that occurred was when the state shot a protestor. That's on them, not us.

Feel free to point out any actual "violence" on our part, and I'll consider renouncing it. But at least have the brains not to own the other side's mistake.

Posted by: cpurick at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (aqZ2q)

381 @Doctor.Boom
I don't believe Harris is a true believer. She is the worst form of crass cynic using the system to take everything she can get out of it. I do agree she's extremely dangerous because she's soulless.
Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (B0mGw)

Perhaps - she is certainly a soulless cvnt.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (NYS7S)

382 372 @Doctor.Boom

I don't believe Harris is a true believer. She is the worst form of crass cynic using the system to take everything she can get out of it. I do agree she's extremely dangerous because she's soulless.
Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 09:03 AM (B0mGw)

My point would be that the fix was in a long time ago. They could have literally picked anyone to be Biden's VP and it would not have mattered- but they picked her.

Why?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (lmikk)

383 So where to go? Which states can be counted on?

Posted by: G. Gnome, House Hunter at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (OQcPl)

384 Ask Alcee Hastings how that works.



Posted by: Page, Plant, Bonham, and Jones at January 07, 2021 08:33 AM (2q9zZ)

The Senate forgot to add the "disqualified from holding further office" clause to the verdict. No one before Hastings had run for office after being impeached, so they didn't feel it necessary.

Any conviction of Trump won't be so forgetful.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (qyH+l)

385 For whatever reason, I have been watching 'Allo 'Allo on DVD which is a BBC series about a cafe owner with a complicated life who is a) an ordinary someone who has to get along with the Nazis AND the Communist and Anti-Communist Resistance. Events force Rene, the cafe owner, time and time again, to do something that he had rather not and then face deadly consequences.

There are a lot of parallels to the situation that Patriots are in today. In the French case, the collaborationist French government did nothing to "resist" the Germans to protect ordinary French citizens while the German authorities were always demanding, threatening, and even executing French citizens who did not go with whatever German orders were issued. The Germans used one or several scapegoats for some imagined slight often to encourage compliant behavior of overall populace. The Soviets did much of the same thing--they would disappear random people for no stated reason at all. That was to warn other people that the state was watching and as a result, ordinary people filled in the blanks about what the disappeared one must have done or said to be disappeared. You know, like Techlords do.


Posted by: whig at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (pO7gM)

386 Constitution Party. It needs to blow up like Newsmax.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (PMAX0)

387 Trump is a fighter, but the 5D chess grand-strategy aspect to his fighting off coup attempts was simple wrong. Trump set the groundwork for Congress / Pence to reject the electoral college vote and entertain a challenge / audit by providing a show of popular support.
He's not going to invoke the Insurrection Act. There's not going to be a last-minute dump of evidence of fraud (but wait for evidence to trickle out as Democrats laugh about the fraud in the months to come, once they've gotten away with it).
Trump has a sense of grand strategy when it came to things like trade. He also has an excellent political acumen. But he doesn't play the DC game very well, and he has a blind-spot in thinking that people who should be on his side for partisan reasons, will be.

Posted by: Revenant at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (//ATM)

388 Lots of Reichstag Fire references this morning, accurately so. This was a staged event to provide cover for the Republican Party to commit a final, dying act of treason. The Democrats didn't need it for anything more than ongoing propagandizing. Normal, competent Americans who for their entire adult lives have tried to engage a political system that accurately reflects their patriotism and civility are now INSURGENTS to be hunted down on social media and excoriated. It will only get worse from there as the Jacobins install themselves more securely. Washington DC is no longer the capital of a representative Republic, but the loci of a global crime cartel masquerading as a respectable body. I've torn down flags and emblems of the Old republic and tossed them in the street, quite literally, and am now a post-American. We'll have to see what that means. However, the pungent "THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE" calls from the larcenous baboons in DC should be the call to action. We might not be the drug-addled, murderous and delusional crowd that the Democrat party cultivates, but we need not become the hapless victims of their stupid, avaricious schemes. Have a very pleasant day, all.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (Owkjs)

389 Quibble - Cumala is, I believe, a True Believer(tm) and, like most of them, a Ticket Taking sociopath. She could be extremely dangerous. She will do whatever her masters (who I'm betting are the ChiComs) tell her to do.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (NYS7S)
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I remember her from confirmation hearings. Total Green-truther. Everything, to her, is about "the environment".

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (FYe3W)

390 All true conservatives want to be known for their really well received concession speech.

Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (ZfRYq)

391 Morning, Horde.

Nice that everyone is forgiving Mr. Pence, but I am not feeing so magnanimous toward him, after all, it was he who helped fan the flames of this whole mess with his reaction to General Flynn, oh so many years ago.

Pence got in his coup de grace yesterday. May it haunt him eternally.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma, Empress Elect of the Universe at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (8/7u2)

392 Trump should resign and give this shitshow to Pence.
Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 07:49 AM (qF62U)


he still has some pardon's to do
again, why he did not actually concede but soften the environment

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (sfhL4)

393 https://youtu.be/7eXTUg14L6M

Styxhexenhammer nails it. But it won't be heard.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (YynYJ)

394 Posted by: Revenant at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (//ATM)

Even Jenna tweeted that Pence was a disappointment.

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (ONvIw)

395 375 Pack the supreme court. Seat the squad with AOC as Chief Justice and make John Roberts suck her strap on every morning.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:04 AM (PMAX0)

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Agree.

Seriously, do they really matter anymore? Not trying to be dramatic, just, the left will get what they want through legislation, does the SC matter now?

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (FMoYW)

396 I haven't been able to read the tea leaves so well in 2020 due to basically a flock of black swans dropping on us, but what i am seeing from here on out ain't good.
The media will go full psyop on us. Social media, academia and the MSM will begin to blast that this was an attempted coup against a democratically elected president- sticky fingers Joe. The narrative will be pushed that Trump was, indeed, Hitler, and anyone associated with him is such a Nazi. Nazis bad, ANTIFA good. ANTIFA allowed to smash Nazis at will. Or even those they erroneously perceive as Nazis.
Once the theme has been firmly cemented, it will be taught in schools- starting immediately. They will go after Trump to further amplify this narrative that he was a criminal- and a prosecution of him will certainly add credence to the narrative. After all, the FBI and other top agencies will investigate and find more seditious acts.
The cue the moles who have been sabotaging Trump throughout his presidency to come forth to spill further tea and lies, building on our theme. assaulting the goldfish like attention span of the public. Book deals are lucrative, you see. So more evidence from "inside players!" 1/2

Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:07 AM (C7zIl)

397 Also Sarah Hoyt is the only person at Instapundit with balls, and the only one who hasn't cucked, and the only one who gets it.

tinyurl.com/ocpwnpbr

Yesterday revealed a lot of cucks among "conservative" writers.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 07, 2021 09:07 AM (OssQ4)

398 ...always went out of his way to show Trump in a good light.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (NpAcC)

I guess that explains his utter silence during the Mueller persecution and over the fraud. He's an utter coward and his cowardice has killed his political future. Good riddance.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (H8QX8)

399 340Looking back now, Pence was never anything more than a mole. He didn't normalize Trump, he kept Trump in check as far as he could without revealing himself


Didn't he also stab Flynn in the back? I think he was and is an all out traitor. He won't even be able to get elected dog catcher in Oklahoma.

Posted by: TraitorPence&Xiden&Ho at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (640e/)

400 Why?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (lmikk)


To prove a point. They could pick the worst 2 candidates, have no campaign, a shitshow of a DNC convention and still pull off a "win". Here is your dollar, Mortimer

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (PMAX0)

401 If the leftest DNC are Nazis, and they are, remember the GOP are Kapos, work for the Nazis against their people. They'll herd us into the camps to prolong their grip on power. Once that is accomplished, they'll be liquidated.Never forget that for a minute.

Posted by: Archer at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (gmo/4)

402 Trump has a sense of grand strategy when it came to things like trade. He also has an excellent political acumen. But he doesn't play the DC game very well, and he has a blind-spot in thinking that people who should be on his side for partisan reasons, will be.
Posted by: Revenant at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (//ATM)


you can barely name his allies on one hand
that is what the true problem was

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (sfhL4)

403 The Deep State owns two incredibly powerful weapons. Money and fear.

You either take the money or you get the threats.

Even Pence isn't immune to that.

I'm guessing the amount of Congrassholes not on the payroll is small.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (Q87rR)

404 380 Don't let them trick you into taking ownership of the violence. What we saw yesterday was civil disobedience, and the only violence that occurred was when the state shot a protestor. That's on them, not us.

Feel free to point out any actual "violence" on our part, and I'll consider renouncing it. But at least have the brains not to own the other side's mistake.
Posted by: cpurick at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (aqZ2q)

This is a good point. But at this point, we all know the score. I am not sure people are denouncing or endorsing THIS violence, per se, but rather the idea that that is what may be required.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (lmikk)

405 Something occurred to me yesterday, and I may be way off base on this but I'll toss it out there. There are two possibilities for what happened yesterday at the Capitol:
1. Enraged citizens stormed the building to do violence and disrupt proceedings due to fury over the casual legitimization of an obviously fraudulent election
2. State-aligned provocateurs masquerading as enraged citizens stormed the building to do violence and disrupt proceedings to engender a crisis and justify a crackdown on citizens opposed to the state that ended the Republic

It's one or the other. It was the manifested fury of the disenfranchised, or it was a false flag. Either way, it will be used to justify a crackdown by the state.

I know understand the Reichstag Fire, whereas I didn't before. History books has always discuss "how did Germans fall for this?" The answer is now clear: because it was going to happen anyway. It could be legitimate or illegitimate, real or contrived, then or a bit later. It didn't matter. The Party had been casting the die for some time and the final event - authentic or counterfeit - that led to an absolute takeover by or defeat of the Party was inevitable.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:09 AM (UZVEt)

406 342 Agree. They have as much to lose as anyone, should the current graft situation change to something ruthlessly commie. We have commie-light, almost, but not quite. They need to keep fake patriotism afloat for maximum graft, minimal rebellion.
Posted by: lizabth at January 07, 2021 08:57 AM (L3Rsz)

I don't see the likes of Bro-Fo, Warnock, OCrazyEyes, Cori Bush, etc... putting up with that.

Especially not once Commie-La takes over from Gropey Joe.

Posted by: Allie at January 07, 2021 09:09 AM (vmRc0)

407 Looking back now, Pence was never anything more than a mole. He didn't normalize Trump, he kept Trump in check as far as he could without revealing himself


Didn't he also stab Flynn in the back? I think he was and is an all out traitor. He won't even be able to get elected dog catcher in Oklahoma.
Posted by: TraitorPence&Xiden&Ho at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (640e/)


most of these old farts don't care - they got theirs and they will retire with such wealth, laughing
Their entire families are taken care of. They do not care. They do not like you. They don't want your vote. They do not care about the country.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 09:09 AM (sfhL4)

408 So, drone strikes? Bring it. I consider that a personal SMOD. Can final requests be made prior to execution?

Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 07, 2021 09:09 AM (uc+oy)

409 390 All true conservatives want to be known for their really well received concession speech.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2021 09:06 AM (ZfRYq)

In no small part Trump was loathed because he wanted to win. Controlled opposition hate that.

I just checked out Instacuck and one person remains there with balls, Sarah Hoyt. I was simultaneously shocked and pleased to read her. Not only does she refuse to condemn the storming of the Bastille, she notes the only one who suffered any violence was the female Air Force vet who was murdered for what amounted to a criminal trespass.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:10 AM (puu6v)

410 Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 07, 2021 09:07 AM (OssQ4)

That is an epic statement from Hoyt. And spot on.

And yes, she's certainly right that what comes next will almost certainly have a Butcher's Bill

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:10 AM (NYS7S)

411 Well, it looks like the rats are slinking away.

Mulvaney resigned as well as a number of other administration people.

Sad, but not unexpected.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2021 09:11 AM (V4X8U)

412 Can't wait for the new green deal, that's really going to crater the economy

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 09:11 AM (/6GbT)

413 2/2
Once these reprobates make the talk show circuits, social media will amplify their messaging and assault user accounts with more lies and deception. ANTIFA will continue to beat, kill and assault anyone who dares hold rallies in opposition to Biden. Cops will stand by and watch said beatings. Conservatives will still be arrested for defending themselves, or killed. Enough people will say no thanks, no rallies. Those die. Eventually, they shape talk radio and kill it with fairness doctrine or deplatform the hosts. When Rush goes, that'll be it. They will pick off the remaining ones.
So then, this leaves us with even questioning the motives of elected officials will be considered treason or challenging democracy or whatever they will label it. But you will be expected to pay your taxes and toe the line. Now that elections are tainted, they have dominated. Our minds, our bodies, and last is the spirit.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:11 AM (C7zIl)

414 The Party had been casting the die for some time and the final event - authentic or counterfeit - that led to an absolute takeover by or defeat of the Party was inevitable.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:09 AM (UZVEt)

The best thing Trump could do now for the Republic is to absolutely destroy the traitorous GOP and form or back a third party. Not one more dollar. Not one more vote.

Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (KnJdm)

415 The wine moms are worshiping Tank Abrams, weirdly. Gretchen Whitmer, the governess of Michigan, posted a photo yesterday of a Tank devotional candle that she had lit. I'm still flabbergasted by that.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2021 09:01 AM (6XLoz)


All true. She's pretty much the new oprah.
Posted by: banana Dream at January 07, 2021 09:04 AM (l6b3d)
*************
I remember when the wine moms voted for Obama and thought Oprah was the Queen.
Then Obama wins and many of those moms didn't like his policies so they ditched both.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (NpAcC)

416 Don't let them trick you into taking ownership of the violence. What we saw yesterday was civil disobedience, and the only violence that occurred was when the state shot a protestor. That's on them, not us.

Posted by: cpurick at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (aqZ2q)
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I've been using "violence" in scare quotes.

Sure there was some, and if the "pipe bombs" can be traced to an actual conservative org, that's a problem (but then again, they weren't set off--which is more than I can say for pallets of bricks at protests).

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (FYe3W)

417 >>I don't believe Harris is a true believer. She is the worst form of crass cynic using the system to take everything she can get out of it. I do agree she's extremely dangerous because she's soulless.


She is also similar to Obama as a first generation American* who spent many of her formative childhood years outside of the US. She is technically American, but she is not culturally American. Suspect that's why you get the cringey fake stories about celebrating Kwanzaa and "fweedom" -- she doesn't have her own homey, American memories/experiebces from which to draw upon for cutesy, touching political patter.

Makes it so much easier to abuse and/or ignore the Constitution when you never really learned to love it and the amazing country it enabled to exist.


*Not slamming first generation Americans in general.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (bDqIh)

418 So where to go? Which states can be counted on?
Posted by: G. Gnome, House Hunter at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (OQcPl)

Think "counties", not "states", for starters.
Small. Local. Tribal.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (NYS7S)

419 What J. J. said.

And like the others, J. J., I greatly appreciate what you write for us every day.

Posted by: Blor Utar, from Zimtok-5 at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (xxG/v)

420 Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:11 AM (C7zIl)

Normally I would agree, but the actions of the patriots yesterday make me think this is no longer a unilateral terror campaign.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (puu6v)

421 Don't let them trick you into taking ownership of the violence. What we saw yesterday was civil disobedience, and the only violence that occurred was when the state shot a protestor. That's on them, not us.

Feel free to point out any actual "violence" on our part, and I'll consider renouncing it. But at least have the brains not to own the other side's mistake.
Posted by: cpurick at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (aqZ2q)

This is a good point. But at this point, we all know the score. I am not sure people are denouncing or endorsing THIS violence, per se, but rather the idea that that is what may be required.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (lmikk)


and as shown, trump voters were stopping antifa violence yesterday

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (sfhL4)

422 Sarah Hoyt lived through a Communist coup once already. She knows what she's looking at.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 07, 2021 09:13 AM (OssQ4)

423 The blog is once again filled with trolls and malcontents spreading disinformation and trying to stir passions."



All I see are a bunch of mealy-mouths trying to push the inherent
nobility of Pence and poo-poo any chance of another Trump run. Back into
the fold, sheep!

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 08:58 AM (B0mGw)

bullshit.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 09:13 AM (Ls0fP)

424 I know understand the Reichstag Fire, whereas I didn't before. History books has always discuss "how did Germans fall for this?" The answer is now clear: because it was going to happen anyway. It could be legitimate or illegitimate, real or contrived, then or a bit later. It didn't matter. The Party had been casting the die for some time and the final event - authentic or counterfeit - that led to an absolute takeover by or defeat of the Party was inevitable.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:09 AM (UZVEt)

exactly - anyone who said the Reichstag fire was faked was beaten and thrown into a camp, same as will happen to anyone who fails to support the Steal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 09:14 AM (V2Yro)

425 https://youtu.be/7eXTUg14L6M

Styxhexenhammer nails it. But it won't be heard.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at

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Hahaha

YouTube / Google has updated their banner to say that all the votes were carefully counted and no fraud occurred and Biden was certified as president.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 09:14 AM (Gj8Yp)

426 Was Pence's action a surprise to Trump? Don't they discuss these things, a President and his VP?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 07, 2021 09:14 AM (19g6/)

427 The best thing Trump could do now for the Republic is to absolutely destroy the traitorous GOP and form or back a third party. Not one more dollar. Not one more vote.
Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (KnJdm)


this is the time to do it too

Will Jordan, Nunes, et al move to a 3rd party formed today? That is the question.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 09:14 AM (sfhL4)

428 seek the truth people.....stay on the side of truth......truth matters...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 07, 2021 09:14 AM (CqHIp)

429 >>My point would be that the fix was in a long time ago. They could have literally picked anyone to be Biden's VP and it would not have mattered- but they picked her.

Why?
- - -

A guess? She is a favorite of Silicon Valley (haviing worked w/them in CA), she is friendly with the Obamas, and because her husband is owned by China (his law firm's biggest client, IIRC). She also checks some of the right boxes - non-white female.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 07, 2021 09:14 AM (bDqIh)

430 To be clear, in case I wasn't earlier, nothing Mike Pence did yesterday was in any way shape or form "noble".

But it ought to have been expected.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:15 AM (NYS7S)

431 The best thing Trump could do now for the Republic is to absolutely destroy the traitorous GOP and form or back a third party. Not one more dollar. Not one more vote.
Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (KnJdm)

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This I could get behind.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:15 AM (nw6Hr)

432 Didn't he also stab Flynn in the back? I think he
was and is an all out traitor. He won't even be able to get elected dog
catcher in Oklahoma.

Posted by: TraitorPenceXidenHo at January 07, 2021 09:08 AM (640e/)

I think he is from Indiana.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 09:15 AM (Ls0fP)

433 As I said on the ONT. wait until Apr 15 to file your taxes. Mail it in. Make the IRS get 75 million paper tax forms at once. Go a step further and mail in 100 blank forms, just to make them sit and open a bunch of useless envelopes. If they can stuff a ballot box with the post office, we can stuff government offices.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (PMAX0)

434 426 Was Pence's action a surprise to Trump? Don't they discuss these things, a President and his VP?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 07, 2021 09:14 AM (19g6/)

They discussed earlier, but mike's check deposited in the afternoon

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (/6GbT)

435 422 Sarah Hoyt lived through a Communist coup once already. She knows what she's looking at.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 07, 2021 09:13 AM (OssQ4)

Good point. Older Cuban refugee clients started to express this fear to me almost ten years ago when Obama started to burn the United States to the ground. Every last one of them cited the craziness of the media, mild then compared to now, as a main reason for their concern.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (puu6v)

436 I'm all for a third party now.

But who at the national level would support such an effort? Who would we want on a conservative party?

Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (C7zIl)

437 YouTube / Google has updated their banner to say that all the votes were carefully counted and no fraud occurred and Biden was certified as president.
Posted by: Undercover Brother at January 07, 2021 09:14 AM (Gj8Yp)
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I don't use any Google property without a VPN. This week's end point is Switzerland, which uses Britain's YouTube for some reason. No banner on British YouTube. I suspect that bit of big tech propaganda is being reserved for Americans.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (UZVEt)

438 The best thing Trump could do now for the Republic is to absolutely destroy the traitorous GOP and form or back a third party. Not one more dollar. Not one more vote.
Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 09:12 AM (KnJdm)

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This I could get behind.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:15 AM (nw6Hr)


Thirded.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (t8ef1)

439 I cannot understand the Pence decision process. Had he done the right thing, he was basically guaranteed 75M votes in 2024.

Trump brought him to the second highest seat. He NEVER would have gotten there without Trump.

Sad.

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (SScvq)

440 But it ought to have been expected.
Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:15 AM (NYS7S)

I did expect it. Another failure theater play actor.

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (ONvIw)

441 The coordinated assault on Our Republic was seen clearly in the Journo-List thing, where certain journalists received the talking points, so they could be the tip of the spear in the propaganda wars, always pushing The Narrative with buzz words of the day.


We now see this in PsyOps like cops letting infiltrators into the WH ... DC mayor helping, a cop practically inviting a small group of non-violent "rioters" up the stairs to the point the Air Force woman was killed. 250K demonstrated peacefully, this small PsyOp (?) countered that whole effort, and got ALL the attention. We have to treat our government as an invading force, organized crime at the highest levels. Courts are in on it ... not sure the evidence ever gets a fair hearing, our day in court ... then what?

Posted by: illiniwek at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (Cus5s)

442 They could have literally picked anyone to be Biden's VP and it would not have mattered- but they picked her. Why?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:05 AM (lmikk)

It's the perfect question to ask and the only one that needs answering at this point unless Trump embraces his inner Caesar - whatever that looks like.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:17 AM (NYS7S)

443 And this is where my Christian faith comes in handy.

"We're paratroopers. We're supposed to be surrounded." - Captain Richard Winters, 101 Airborne

Yup paratroopers. Given a mission and dropped behind enemy lines, surrounded by the Enemy with only each other for comfort. We are to seize the objective and hold it until the main force arrives.

Posted by: ExPraliteMonk at January 07, 2021 09:17 AM (CyiTg)

444 Yesterday will be used to enact more gun laws. Mark it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:17 AM (PMAX0)

445 take a little comfort in knowing I'll never vote again. What's the point? It doesn't matter anyway. I didn't vote for NAFTA but got that good and hard.
==========================
I'm still voting. The local stuff is still important, and too small to be worthy of gaming, unless Soros has a vested interest.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (7Fj9P)

446 Yesterday will be used to enact more gun laws. Mark it.

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True.

Its also true it was coming anyway.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (nw6Hr)

447 "G-d help me for saying it, I'm just about to the point of condoning it"

Why God help me? Its our obligation to uphold the Constitution and oppose an illegal government which this obviously is. Since all other avenues for justice have been closed there is only one left. God help us if we fail to expel this Chinese supported communist takeover.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (lRrON)

448 Regarding what the oligarchs want--it is China's or Russia's governance model where the peasants know their place. Not Stalinist because of the compliance costs and that the oligarchs themselves would be at the whim of a Supreme Leader, but using soft totalitarianism to inflict pain on dissidents through loss of jobs, economic deprivation, probably loss of health care in the future, etc.

It is not technically Marxist in the ordinary sense (economics) in that these oligarchs and large corporations do not want state ownership of property--but merely want a government that responds to its interests--like tapping the Treasury, gutting or controlling regulations affecting them, etc. Most oligarchs are basically anarchic in that they want to maximize what they can do while emphasizing power over others through rules, laws, and regulations. What they are seeking is insulation from the markets and behavior and they do that by controlling government.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (pO7gM)

449 The folks that stole the election killed that girl. From the Bazzillionaires at the top to the fatties running the same ballots thru the machine dozens of times to the colleges that 'vote the dead' using their administration building address.

Karma's coming for you bitches. Maybe MAGA too. Buy a security service to be safe. Just in case.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (DePyg)

450 18 What I saw at the Wild Protest (WISATWP) 1/x

I still haven't really processed it all - and what I observed is not what the current narrative is. I know, hard to believe.

But I do want to address the false flag theory. There were thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of protestors bearing American and Trump flags who came up the steps and were on the balconies of the Capitol. There may have been some provocateurs in there but its clear the push into the building was the work, and intent of the main body of the crowd.

As JJ reminded me, that is not unprecedented. Code Pink did it and were hailed as champions of democracy.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (uc+oy)

451 Trump brought him to the second highest seat. He NEVER would have gotten there without Trump.

Sad.
Posted by: Eli Cash at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (SScvq)

He's a bland politician. And, like Roberts, cashed in his chips due to fear. Everyone wants to be Andrew Jackson, unfortunately a lot are Barney Fife.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (lmikk)

452 Love it, Cat Ass Trophy.

In fact, I may go to the local library and grab every last one of their free forms today.

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (SScvq)

453 Lindsey calling Biden "lawfully elected" was a total shiv to the country.

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:19 AM (ONvIw)

454 A few of Trump's staffers resigned yesterday after the breach of the Capitol. It's difficult to name even a handful of people in the GOP who stayed loyal to the president. Every one of these bastards stuck it to him when the election was stolen.

Why would anyone ever vote for the GOP again?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 07, 2021 09:19 AM (bkUtD)

455 446 Yesterday will be used to enact more gun laws. Mark it.

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True.

Its also true it was coming anyway.
Posted by: fixerupper

Honestly whats the point of Americans owning guns? unless you use them they are just props and decorations

Posted by: Rick in SK at January 07, 2021 09:19 AM (FZYNt)

456 Yesterday will be used to enact more gun laws. Mark it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:17 AM (PMAX0)

They don't need a pretense, and no firearms were used or implicated in yesterday's fesitivities, except by the police who shot that woman.

Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 09:19 AM (KnJdm)

457 > I don't believe Harris is a true believer. She is the worst form of crass cynic using the system to take everything she can get out of it.

This is correct.

Notice how abruptly she switched from "Biden is a racist rapist" to giving him public tongue baths.

When someone asked her about it, she just laughed, in that soulless cackle that she has.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:19 AM (2q9zZ)

458 @423 Quint
"bullshit."

Right.

Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 09:19 AM (B0mGw)

459 April will be the big crash for the economy. What's going to happen is a drunk with power Dem majority passing every cock eyed program they can, and as usual, not looking at the unforseen consequences. Particularly disturbing is Yellen's call for a $2 per gallon carbon tax on fuel. Another forgotten backstory will be the resurrection of Liawatha's pet project, the Consumer Protection Board or whatever it's called. A lot of real damage will be done with that cudgel.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (I58tH)

460 Years ago, I learned about Mike Pence from the National Review. They revered him. He was the quintessential republican, destined to run for president one day.

I don't know what they think of him now. I cancelled my subscription five years ago when they so publicly went neverTrump.

Posted by: squeakywheel at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (T2vUn)

461 unfortunately a lot are Barney Fife.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (lmikk)

Hey, Barney Fife had character when the chips were down. These gutless assclowns can't hold a candle to Barney Fife.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (H8QX8)

462
Code Pink did it and were hailed as champions of democracy.

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Hell... they stormed the Supreme Court when Kavanaugh was approved.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (nw6Hr)

463 That Ruby bitch and her ghetto skank daughter in ATL are going to have ZERO consequences for their actions.

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (SScvq)

464 They don't need a pretense, and no firearms were used or implicated in yesterday's fesitivities, except by the police who shot that woman.
Posted by: flounder at January 07, 2021 09:19 AM (KnJdm)


It was an ultraviolent riot and someone was shot. Ban guns now!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (PMAX0)

465 As JJ reminded me, that is not unprecedented. Code Pink did it and were hailed as champions of democracy.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (uc+oy)


All over social media last night

Wisconsin picts when the left filth invaded the House there.

DC picts when the democrat filth burned it down

Democrat filth all over DC, including inside, during the Kavanaugh hoax

3 easy examples of murder, rape, burning and pillage the democrats got away with and labeled "peaceful"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 09:21 AM (sfhL4)

466 463 That Ruby bitch and her ghetto skank daughter in ATL are going to have ZERO consequences for their actions.

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (SScvq)
They'll get rewarded, by Stacy and Kemp

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:21 AM (ONvIw)

467 Thirded.
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Forthed. I was giving to individual candidates. I got burned on that one, too. No more $$'s from me.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 09:21 AM (7Fj9P)

468 ha!

Scarborough calls for arrest of Trump, Giuliani and Trump Jr. for insurrection against US

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2021 09:21 AM (5QBw6)

469 Yesterday will be used to enact more gun laws. Mark it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:17 AM (PMAX0)

Unarmed protestor shot by armed cop of course means "WE NEED MORE GUN LAWS" because of course that's Democrat "Logic".

And yeah, those are coming by EO the instant Gropey's stink-fingers come off the Bible on the 20th - they were drafted a year ago.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:21 AM (NYS7S)

470 What's also fun about the incoming gun laws...doubt the courts will do much and if they object? Dems will just whip their dicks out and tell them to suck it

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 09:21 AM (/6GbT)

471 Hey, Barney Fife had character when the chips were down. These gutless assclowns can't hold a candle to Barney Fife.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (H8QX

Ok, fair enough. Better funny parallel that does not involve historical traitors or collaborators?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (lmikk)

472 The question is, which states are going to step up and reclaim their rights? It sure as hell isnt GA.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (PMAX0)

473 I don't know what they think of him now. I cancelled my subscription five years ago when they so publicly went neverTrump.
Posted by: squeakywheel at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (T2vUn)

I'll never vote for him or anyone else who voted for the steal last night

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (ONvIw)

474 I think we should all send the GOP a check for $0.01. If they get enough of them, they might get the message.

They probably cost more to process, or you could cancel them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (xfb67)

475 When does that whirlwind kick in?

Posted by: Ziba at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (S1hrL)

476 "if you come after the king you better kill the king"

well, they "killed" him, so his "supporters" are fleeing the castle

Posted by: Rick in SK at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (FZYNt)

477 448 Regarding what the oligarchs want--it is China's or Russia's governance model where the peasants know their place. Not Stalinist because of the compliance costs and that the oligarchs themselves would be at the whim of a Supreme Leader, but using soft totalitarianism to inflict pain on dissidents through loss of jobs, economic deprivation, probably loss of health care in the future, etc.

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True. I too casaully used the term "communist" earlier in this thread. The United States has become culturally Marxist but remains a crony capitalist state as well, basically what you have described. China is their model, and it is why China has more representation in the House and Senate than the American people.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (puu6v)

478 I've mentioned before that I have been trying to be more spiritual in these unprecedented times. Been reading these little booklets called "Our Daily Bread." Little snippet of verse coupled with a personal story from someone.

These books are free and you can check out their website at ourdailybread.org

Don't want to pummel you all with my negative tea leaves reading without giving you some hope.

I say this. Perhaps God has intended us to go in this direction. And if so, so be it. Perhaps I will find some solace or meaning in these little books. Maybe you will too.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (C7zIl)

479 the last 4 years were a warning

to any political party that may toy with idea of nominating an outsider

and to any outsider considering of running

WE WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE HELL

Posted by: REDACTED at January 07, 2021 09:23 AM (zZxh0)

480 Imagine if the media reported on the blm/antifa riots like they did on the conservative people yesterday. biden would have lost by 45 States.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 07, 2021 09:23 AM (JUOKG)

481 475 When does that whirlwind kick in?
Posted by: Ziba at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (S1hrL)

Never.

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:23 AM (ONvIw)

482 Scarborough calls for arrest of Trump, Giuliani and Trump Jr. for insurrection against US
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2021 09:21 AM (5QBw6)

I hope they do...go full retard on the power grab

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 07, 2021 09:23 AM (/6GbT)

483 It just hit me that Marx worried about "The Capitalist" stealing the value of labor from the "worker".

But this is exactly what "taxes" are these days. It's money you never see.

I figured out what payroll tax actually is: it is the amount in addition to what my employer pays me that they are willing to pay to the government for my contribution to my employer.

It is a payment to a third party that didn't do the work for the work that I've done.

Progressives can't get anything right.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (FYe3W)

484
House members Republican Andy Harris and Dem. Colin Alfred nearly come to blows during Pennsylvania certification debate.

https://tinyurl.com/yxtlxp3m

Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (NpAcC)

485 "Didn't he also stab Flynn in the back? I think he
was and is an all out traitor."


Hard to know which crazy stories of subversive actions are true (Lin Wood stories may well be tru-ish, but maybe diversionary). But Pence was at the heart of the "don't trust Flynn" effort, and got him removed, as I recall. Pence was always "one of them", but saved for when really needed maybe. Many of them think we are better off with DeepState in charge ... maybe.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (Cus5s)

486 475 When does that whirlwind kick in?
Posted by: Ziba at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (S1hrL)

Climate change.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (xfb67)

487 119 Sorry, J.J., but you still don't get it.

This is a Communist takeover, plain and simple. Communists will not relinquish power peaceably.


I never really considered this realistic (I guess I still don't) but I seriously doubt Trump will be alive two years from now if he doesn't do the martial law thing. He will magically develop a fatal illness, like Rush and Bongino, or suddenly die of a strange cause, like Breitbart or Alito.

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Yes. Somebody injected Rush with lung cancer, gave Bongino Hodgkins, and formulated a plan to give Breitbart heart problems at an early age because he may be a threat to the left someday. Freak.

Posted by: Citation X Driver at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (+G2jw)

488 True. I too casaully used the term "communist" earlier in this thread. The United States has become culturally Marxist but remains a crony capitalist state as well, basically what you have described. China is their model, and it is why China has more representation in the House and Senate than the American people.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (puu6v)

What China has is essentially long term Fascism. Actually not essentially, that's what it is.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (lmikk)

489 Ok, fair enough. Better funny parallel that does not involve historical traitors or collaborators?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (lmikk)

I know what you meant. I was just having fun.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (H8QX8)

490
I'll never vote for him or anyone else who voted for the steal last night
Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (ONvIw)

Same. I will vote for a straight up Marxist who tells me to my face they want me dead before a traitor who pretends to represent my interests.

The GOP was done before yesterday. Maybe they are just looting more quickly because they know it, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (puu6v)

491 My belief is that Pence is just what he is. A typical politician. Not a real leader. He's exactly what you would expect a politician from Indiana to be. Polite. Milquetoast. Nice. Probably smart. Basically Tom Hagan. Not a wartime consiglere. It's hard for me to get too worked up over his actions yesterday. Because Pence is not the problem.

Posted by: SH at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (sX1BW)

492 Would you trolls please come up with something that even I can appreciate and use on someone else. Man you guys suck. Please, if you have someone with more wit amongst you, send them our way.

Posted by: JROD at January 07, 2021 08:42 AM (0jZnq)


I watch AM 560's morning show on youtube because I can fast forward through the commercials. The sidebar comments are full of troll comments. The same trolls with the same crap every day. All of these trolls are utterly worthless, pathetic shitheads.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (t8ef1)

493 Imagine if the media reported on the blm/antifa riots like they did on the conservative people yesterday. biden would have lost by 45 States.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 07, 2021 09:23 AM (JUOKG)

Oh, DVS would take care of that for them.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (NYS7S)

494 I figured out what payroll tax actually is: it is the amount in addition to what my employer pays me that they are willing to pay to the government for my contribution to my employer.

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6%.

If youre self employed... YOU pay it.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (nw6Hr)

495 But who at the national level would support such an effort? Who would we want on a conservative party?
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (C7zIl)

Goya man?

Posted by: Deep State 910 at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (+RZls)

496 > House members Republican Andy Harris and Dem. Colin Alfred nearly come to blows during Pennsylvania certification debate.


What Congress needs is a few more good old-fashioned cane thrashings, followed by duels, and I don't care which one wins. Either way, we win.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (2q9zZ)

497 Not a wartime consiglere. It's hard for me to get too worked up over his actions yesterday. Because Pence is not the problem.
Posted by: SH at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (sX1BW)

The sheer number of Pence types is a problem.

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (ONvIw)

498 496 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (2q9zZ)

Amen, and a woman....

//Derp from Kansas

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (Lzpvj)

499 Because Pence is not the problem.
Posted by: SH at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (sX1BW)


No, I think he is. He and his type have been the problem for a long time.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (H8QX8)

500 Posted by: squid_hunt at January 07, 2021 09:19 AM (B0mGw)

you can have your own opinion of Pence. I said i have not followed the Trump/Pence back and forth over the last few weeks. But don't call out fellow Hordians because they have a different view. I would not do that to you or anyone else here. I gave my views on Pence over the last four years, i think in general it has been good. i am not excited about him in any way, bu at the same time I respect some things about him.

Many can not stand the guy and their opinions have been noted.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (Ls0fP)

501 Scarborough calls for arrest of Trump, Giuliani and Trump Jr. for insurrection against US

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2021 09:21 AM (5QBw6)
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They're big fascists and banana enthusiasts.

It's amazing what they are willing to prosecute people for that would be hard to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" in a court.

Which is why, having seen the Zimmerman case, I believe that one day they'll dispense with the whole "reasonable doubt" threshold and simply prosecute people in the way they want to prosecute them.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (FYe3W)

502 152 Ashli Babbit did four tours of duty fighting for other people's freedom. Died in Our House protesting our disenfranchisement.
Posted by: itsacookbook at January 07, 2021 08:21 AM (yPxXc)

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A heroine and a patriot, perished with Mike Pence's bloody knife between her shoulder blades.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (MkuC5)

503 Which is why, having seen the Zimmerman case, I believe that one day they'll dispense with the whole "reasonable doubt" threshold and simply prosecute people in the way they want to prosecute them.
Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (FYe3W)

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See Wisconsin v Rittenhouse

Already here.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at January 07, 2021 09:27 AM (MkuC5)

504 Morning Joe makes his living on apoplexy.

It's like Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:27 AM (FYe3W)

505 House members Republican Andy Harris and Dem. Colin Alfred nearly come to blows during Pennsylvania certification debate.


how did I miss this ??

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at January 07, 2021 09:27 AM (zZxh0)

506 Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (FYe3W)

Taxes are just the visible part. Deficit spending and money printing to devalue the dollar is the main way politicians steal the wealth of citizens now. It's subtler and you don't have to deal with those icky Walmart people getting angry because most people don't understand what is happening.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 07, 2021 09:27 AM (xfb67)

507 > What China has is essentially long term Fascism. Actually not essentially, that's what it is.

Yes. It's socialism with a strong admixture of nationalism, i.e., national socialism.

Which is pretty much the definition of fascism, innit?

Fascists are only "right wing" if you are Stalin.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:27 AM (2q9zZ)

508 hang in there people, it's always darkest before the light.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 07, 2021 09:27 AM (CqHIp)

509 Posted by: Citation X Driver at January 07, 2021 09:24 AM (+G2jw)

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought talking about Rush and Bongino in that way was very odd.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07, 2021 09:28 AM (VP4Cd)

510 The failure is a society that has raised at least three generations of critics, not leaders.

People whose idea of courage is an edgy sentence on Twitter.



Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 07, 2021 09:28 AM (C+We0)

511 April will be the big crash for the economy. What's going to happen is a drunk with power Dem majority passing every cock eyed program they can, and as usual, not looking at the unforseen consequences. Particularly disturbing is Yellen's call for a $2 per gallon carbon tax on fuel. Another forgotten backstory will be the resurrection of Liawatha's pet project, the Consumer Protection Board or whatever it's called. A lot of real damage will be done with that cudgel.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (I58tH)
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You're 12-14 months early, I think. If I were running Biden's administration, I'd just lock down everything nationally (who cares that it doesn't work), use the opportunity to declare victory this time, reopen everything, and ride the reopening boom and Trump's coattails while implementing my own agenda. It will take a year (ish) for that to peter out, at which time my subversion of voting systems I don't already own and consolidation of power will be complete. The disaster to follow won't matter politically because I will have exploited the opportunity to mask my groundwork with the post-'Rona boom.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:28 AM (UZVEt)

512 hang in there people, it's always darkest before the light.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 07, 2021 09:27 AM (CqHIp)

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Love your enthusiasm darling.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:28 AM (nw6Hr)

513 A heroine and a patriot, perished with Mike Pence's bloody knife between her shoulder blades.
Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (MkuC5

Not only Pence. All the govt had to do is a fair investigation based on all those affidavits. They refused. Instead they killed Ashli and any confidence in the US government.

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:28 AM (ONvIw)

514 Pence is the problem.

Any Republican who on this day, after fraud and the murder of a female veteran takes the time to be angry that we are angry can go fuck themselves.

The democrats at best sat silent, and at worst cheered on 4 years of lawless behavior by their voters.

"Our" political class empowers their "foes."

Fuck those people, you either believe policy difference matter enough to be angry or you do not.

I do.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 09:29 AM (Lzpvj)

515 Schiff was probably glad that the Narrative against the President didn't actually have to have a force of argument in the Shampeachment.

I watched his whole opening speech, and I can imagine that only about a five minute period was he ever in the vicinity of something that wasn't just his aspersion.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:29 AM (FYe3W)

516 56 I truly wonder if yesterday might not have been the seeds of Revolution 2.0 being sown. The majority of our elected officials are just not listening to us.They are complicit in what happened to this country.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (mcfjc)
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It isn't just the elected officials, it is the judges who dodged by claiming "no standing" or some other such nonsense. It is unelected government turds who want nothing more than more power for government. Doing what is good for the people is the furthest thing from their minds.
Tree of Liberty, lamp posts, tar & feathers, etc.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at January 07, 2021 09:29 AM (JNTt1)

517 Trump cannot do the "Martial Law" thing. The military is on the same side as the Capitol Police were yesterday.

it's over.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2021 08:17 AM (V2Yro)


From what I hear that's not true. There are certainly traitors among the top generals, from the Obama years, and we had a Cabinet member or two who proved that, but the guys who put their lives on the line for America like to say they're defending FREEDOM, not a phony "democracy" that's really a Communist dictatorship.

I hear that the key element of the military, the Special Forces, was moved under the direct control of the SecDef shortly after he was installed, which was shortly after the election. Why make such significant changes, if you're just packing your bags?

Also, SecDef saying something to the effect that they'd "been through some stuff" (apparently during ther month and a half he'd been in office) and that the largest and most complex military operation the country has ever undertake is underway (on 19DEC).

That's not conspiracy nut stuff. That's the SecDef, on tape. Remember it was the MILITARY that set things right in Egypt after the Muslim Brotherhood took over.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 09:29 AM (hOOi9)

518 Texas and several other states will be seceding since the Supreme Court told them they have no standing. The Supreme Court is a creation of the Constitution, which is a creation of the States. This Supreme Court has no standing with its creators.

The seceding states will take the Constitution with it since the Socialist States of America aren't using it.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 07, 2021 09:29 AM (bnpEs)

519 Good morning, horde. Thank you JJ for the morning report.

I'm not really a movie person but my reaction is "United States Has Fallen" (like the "Olympus Has Fallen" and "London Has Fallen" but without the sexy Gerard Butler to save us). And we are like Sarah Connor in one of the Terminatormovies- locked in the insane asylum but making preparations for the coming assault.


Posted by: President-elect Iris at January 07, 2021 09:30 AM (0MnEQ)

520 "It just hit me that Marx worried about "The Capitalist" stealing the value of labor from the "worker".


We do indeed make a lot of laws to protect workers, and that is good. We have a "progressive" tax the "rich" structure. BUT we have corporate America buying our DC policies, including massive bailouts and giveaways for the rich. And now, trillions of "stimulus" is injected to save (global) markets, and we locked down small business, but market players received a bonanza and made out like bandits ... the rich got most of the stimulus ... the working poor put out of work, waiting for that trickle down.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 07, 2021 09:30 AM (Cus5s)

521 462
Code Pink did it and were hailed as champions of democracy.

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Hell... they stormed the Supreme Court when Kavanaugh was approved.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:20 AM (nw6Hr)


They stormed nothing. They were let in by the Democrats.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 09:30 AM (s2VJv)

522 > Deficit spending and money printing to devalue the dollar is the main way politicians steal the wealth of citizens now.

I believe that the national debt has gone from $20 trillion to $27 trillion in the last six months. But sure, that's sustainable.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:30 AM (2q9zZ)

523 What happened to Lin Wood's big reveal, yesterday? Has Sydney Powell disappeared?

Posted by: Unkaren at January 07, 2021 09:30 AM (VnXf7)

524 I just don't see Pence on the same magnitude as the Flakes, McCains, Grahams. If we want to stop electing Pence types that's fine. I'll think about it more. But today, I'm just not going to get too worked up about Pence. I suspect his elected political career is probably over. Perhaps he'll find a Cabinet position within the next GOP administration (if there is one). I know people don't think we will ever see one again - and maybe they are right.

Posted by: SH at January 07, 2021 09:31 AM (sX1BW)

525 I'm still voting. The local stuff is still important, and too small to be worthy of gaming, unless Soros has a vested interest.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 07, 2021 09:18 AM (7Fj9P)
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I'm still voting. I think about Abbott, my Governor and how mad I get at him. Then I think of what we could have gotten and believe me it would have made a huge difference and not in a good way.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 07, 2021 09:31 AM (NpAcC)

526 I see it a third party suggestion as: ok, what then? How does that fix the problem? How does that help us get to a better place to fix the problem?

The Vote Integrity 'hill' renders everything else academic and us just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:31 AM (lmikk)

527 art its what for breakfast

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2021 09:31 AM (5QBw6)

528 "Unity" is just a euphemism for submission. It's going to be about the complete trampling of our rights and our republic. It is going to be about the complete transformation of our country into something unrecognizable to most.

They have spelled our their agenda, and last night you saw the entire Congress say they will lay down for it. They won't protect you or our republic. They will be quislings and collaborators in it.

Nobody stood up for us. Nor have they promised to at least litigate material concerns of fraud and unconstitutional usurpations by the state government officials. They've not only guaranteed it will happen again. They have guaranteed that fraud and subjugation will become the norm.

God help us, because we only have ourselves and each other to count on.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (VpIIl)

529 > Texas and several other states will be seceding since the Supreme Court told them they have no standing.

Be looking for an attempted Article V Convention soon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (2q9zZ)

530 No, I think he is. He and his type have been the problem for a long time.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 07, 2021 09:26 AM (H8QX

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Yes, exactly, he IS the problem.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (FMoYW)

531 the failure is a society that has raised at least three generations of critics, not leaders.



People whose idea of courage is an edgy sentence on Twitter.




Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 07, 2021 09:28 AM (C+We0)

this is an important statement.

Posted by: Quint at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (Ls0fP)

532

I'm listening to Trey Gowdy's blather about this is a nation of laws and storming the people's house is wrong. Nation of laws? Fck him.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (t8ef1)

533 124 It should only happen to the ChiComs. They did this. They are responsible for our overthrow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:12 AM (s2VJv)


By February or March they will take Taiwan, likely they will attempt to push KJU to invade the ROK. The US under Biden or Harris, will not be able to cobble together an alliance of concerned nations to repel this because, those nations are already tied to a big shiny new "free trade" agreement with the ChiComs...welcome to the new world order.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf

Well South Korea, Israel and Taiwan should have put their hackers to work on November 3 and 4.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (kfcYC)

534 I'm probably not being clear on Pence. I just never expected Pence to act differently. So he didn't really disappoint me. I never expected him to be the type of person to take a bold political move.

Posted by: SH at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (sX1BW)

535 Yesterday was today's version of the John Brown Raid on Harper's Ferry. Regardless of which side of the political fence you sit, the issue has been laid bare, the genie let out of the bottle, and there is no going back. We truly are a house divided. The question is do we match or exceed the chaos of Yugoslavia in the 90's?

Posted by: Wesley Viens at January 07, 2021 09:33 AM (hTwl1)

536 I'm not voting for big national offices ever again. Depending on where you live, state elections may still be worth participating in, and locals almost always are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:33 AM (UZVEt)

537 > By February or March they will take Taiwan

I don't think they can do it, but we'll see, I suppose.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:33 AM (2q9zZ)

538 Let's hope we have a Morning Report eventually where the banner features the events of January 23, 1989, in Bucharest.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:34 AM (puu6v)

539 So what reason now do I have to keep supporting or donating to or voting for the GOP? What changes? Ever? I've been pushed further and further away from it since Reagan. Oh, sure, every once in a while a new wave of "conservatives" moves in and we go through the charade for a cycle or two, but the Borg swallows the movement, digests it, and as practicable as possible dumps it in the latrine. Pretty certain now that this was it for me and my family.

We're done with the GOP. They forced us to realize that they simply will not ratchet back ANYTHING that moves Left. And if they can move with it while playing the game of tricking the deplorables that "the next hill is the one to defend", they will.

As a party, it's a lie. But we won't lie to ourselves any more.

Done. Simply done. I'll vote for an effin' Martian before I support any Republicans. The Party is dead to me. Some individuals I'll support, but if GOP/Republican is attached to their title, then I won't.

Sometimes life gets simplified for you. This is one of those days. Now to expedite the process of transitioning lifestyles.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 07, 2021 09:34 AM (HhXSr)

540 522 > Deficit spending and money printing to devalue the dollar is the main way politicians steal the wealth of citizens now.

I believe that the national debt has gone from $20 trillion to $27 trillion in the last six months. But sure, that's sustainable.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:30 AM (2q9zZ)

Thankfully it is not. Also thankfully, our rulers who aspired to be the Chicoms, are grossly incompetent. Things start to look worse if someone smarter and more ruthless enters the scene.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 07, 2021 09:34 AM (Zm+LZ)

541 Well South Korea, Israel and Taiwan should have put their hackers to work on November 3 and 4.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (kfcYC)
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They may have. Who knows. But I would be shocked - actually shocked, not just mildly surprised - if Korea, Japan and possibly Taiwan haven't started crash atomic weapons programs no later than the day after the US election. Korea and Japan at least have the industrial and scientific capability, they've just never had the desire to take on an exorbitant cost center like nuclear weapons when we had ours aimed on their behalf.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:35 AM (UZVEt)

542 537 > By February or March they will take Taiwan

I don't think they can do it, but we'll see, I suppose.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:33 AM (2q9zZ)

Taiwan has a pretty good submarine fleet and is rumored to have nukes. If they go to war with the PRC, it is not a stretch to imagine the D.C. junta will side with Beijing to protect the investments of their pimps.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:35 AM (puu6v)

543 By February or March they will take Taiwan, likely they will attempt to push KJU to invade the ROK. The US under Biden or Harris, will not be able to cobble together an alliance of concerned nations to repel this because, those nations are already tied to a big shiny new "free trade" agreement with the ChiComs...welcome to the new world order.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf

THIS. This is going to happen. It will be blamed on Trump's policies, and Biden or the ho will be sent out to negotiate a peaceful transfer of power between Taiwan and China- and then get a Nobel peace prize.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:35 AM (C7zIl)

544 433 As I said on the ONT. wait until Apr 15 to file your taxes. Mail it in. Make the IRS get 75 million paper tax forms at once. Go a step further and mail in 100 blank forms, just to make them sit and open a bunch of useless envelopes. If they can stuff a ballot box with the post office, we can stuff government offices.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:16 AM (PMAX0)

============================

Change your exemptions to 100,000 so there is nothing withheld. Keep the same amount in a savings account, then buy a boatload of money orders to send in as payment on April 15th.

Posted by: Doof at January 07, 2021 09:35 AM (mZUr4)

545 Show me what I do not get either in this editorial or any other one I have written these past four years as a oob.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 08:22 AM (s2VJv)


I surely appreciate your efforts as a cob, but I think I was very clear about what I claim you are not "getting". You insist force can be avoided; I point out that Communists never surrender power peacefully. The system was tried; the individuals in power were too corrupted.

Nothing in what we've seen with this election resembles America in the slightest. The courts, media, and legislature are acting like Communists because the Communist Chinese have compromised them.

This is the real-life Red Dawn, my friend.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 09:36 AM (hOOi9)

546 Taiwan can't be taken rapidly. Amphibious assault on a heavily fortified and prepared target is pretty much a no-go, especially with a force as inexperienced as the Chinese. It can be put under siege though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 07, 2021 09:36 AM (Zm+LZ)

547 I hope we all have long memories and it feeds the fire.

No tv.
No GOP fundraising money (this actually made me laugh).
No pro sports.
Stay away from retailers with a shitty agenda.
I don't really care about voting anymore but vote for anyone other than the pricks in office.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 07, 2021 09:37 AM (FMoYW)

548 I don't think they can do it, but we'll see, I suppose.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:33 AM (2q9zZ)

I read a breakdown. Taiwan sounds like a tough nut to crack. The analysis was too complex for me to relate here, but the foundation of it was that the Chinese could do it, but they would sustain HEAVY casualties and would have to essentially put forces on the island, then try to slog it out.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:37 AM (lmikk)

549 "SecDef saying something to the effect that they'd "been through some
stuff" (apparently during the month and a half he'd been in office) and
that the largest and most complex military operation the country has
ever undertaken"

that gave me a little hope, but he also called the Nigeria raid "complex", so he may have been talking of that (though why not just say "in Nigeria?). --- and what did Pence have to do with that? Maybe he coordinated with the other countries involved?


my guess is Trump won in a landslide, but even he was caught off guard by the massive late night cheat. Just how SCOTUS was compromised (?) idk, they look like they decided to stand down with the others, and allow the Steal.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 07, 2021 09:37 AM (Cus5s)

550 I truly wonder if yesterday might not have been the seeds of Revolution 2.0 being sown. The majority of our elected officials are just not listening to us.They are complicit in what happened to this country.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 07, 2021 08:01 AM (mcfjc)
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The "revolution" wont come from the actions of yesterday.

The "revolution" will come as a result of Progressive overeach. It ALWAYS happens. They are gonna absolutely wreck this country in a way that will make Obamas term seem like Calvin Coolidge. High taxes, exporting jobs, open borders, continued rigged elections, packing the court, printing obscene amounts of money, gun grabbing, continued and expanded censorship, THE GREEN NEW DEAL, continued persection in the name COVId, federal oversight of local PD's and a boot stomping in our face for forever. Its ALL going to happen.

People dont revolt until theres nothing left to lose.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:37 AM (nw6Hr)

551 546 Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 09:36 AM (hOOi9)

It is not "Red Dawn" it is "Amerika."

The US was not invaded, it was destroyed by corrupt weak politicians who hated their domestic foes more than foreign enemies.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 09:37 AM (Lzpvj)

552 One of the things that was suggested on another site was for every single person who is a registered republican to re-register as an independent.

Posted by: shibumi galt, welcome to the shitshow at January 07, 2021 09:38 AM (ZCiJZ)

553 if you want to see Steyn on tucker, the video still exists on his website
steynonline.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 09:38 AM (sfhL4)

554 547 Taiwan can't be taken rapidly. Amphibious assault on a heavily fortified and prepared target is pretty much a no-go, especially with a force as inexperienced as the Chinese. It can be put under siege though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 07, 2021 09:36 AM (Zm+LZ)


I submit that they already have personnel in place and are merely waiting for the word to sabotage, seize and assassinate. See Russia vs. Crimea for reference.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:38 AM (C7zIl)

555 >>Say, when's that Durham report supposed to come out?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2021 07:48 AM (V4X8U)

Youre a fucking waste.

An arrogant, useless waste.

Posted by: customTone at January 07, 2021 09:39 AM (kFdrO)

556 They think it's over when it's only just beginning.

This was never about Trump, it's about you and the American way of life we are trying to protect. Leaders like Trump may come and go, but the people and their desires remain.

They don't want to crush Trump. They want to crush you, your hopes, dreams, wants, rights and choices. They want to eliminate anything that gets in the way of their agenda, their despotism.

That's a tyranny most of us will never live under the thumb of. If they think "we" are going to give up and submit like most of congress did last night, and the courts previously, they should think again. This has only just begun.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 07, 2021 09:39 AM (zruA2)

557 Posted by: Jack Burton, who is outta fucks at January 07, 2021 09:22 AM (C7zIl)

Good for you. Both "Our Daily Bread" and "The Upper Room" often have helpful spiritual reflections.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07, 2021 09:39 AM (VP4Cd)

558 Regarding Pence. Is there sexual dirt on him? His persona is pious and wise in that he claims to contingency think in order to avoid the appearance of impropriety by supposedly never being alone in a room with a woman other than his wife. Is that just a massive red flag that I missed? As a devout Christian, as he supposedly is, Trump having been a womanizer just does not add up as motive to destroy him like this. Come as you are, forgiveness, we are all sinners and all that would override any such vindictiveness.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 07, 2021 09:39 AM (uc+oy)

559 Texas and several other states will be seceding since the Supreme Court told them they have no standing.

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The new Republic of Texas will run from the southern border to Canda, from the Rockies to the Mississippi.

Except Minnesota. Fuck those guys.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:40 AM (nw6Hr)

560 "I read a breakdown. Taiwan sounds like a tough nut to crack."

they don't need to invade now, they have China Joe in their pocket, back to business as usual. China Mitch also happy, China DiFi happy ... Wall street gets their China slaves back Plus the stimulus ... all is well for the globalists (till DeepState has to fight China, after Lady Liberty raped and in chains)

Posted by: illiniwek at January 07, 2021 09:41 AM (Cus5s)

561 Taiwan has a pretty good submarine fleet and is rumored to have nukes. If they go to war with the PRC, it is not a stretch to imagine the D.C. junta will side with Beijing to protect the investments of their pimps.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 07, 2021 09:35 AM (puu6v)


One has to wonder how we would even hear about it.

Of course the DC junta would betray us. Even the Republicans weren't afraid to completely betray their own voters vs China.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at January 07, 2021 09:41 AM (hOOi9)

562 my guess is Trump won in a landslide, but even he was caught off guard by the massive late night cheat. Just how SCOTUS was compromised (?) idk, they look like they decided to stand down with the others, and allow the Steal.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 07, 2021 09:37 AM (Cus5s)

Who anticipated that the 5 states in question would all shut down the count so that they could manufacture ballots or decide to rescan? It was a blatant fraud like Lindsey Graham

Posted by: CN at January 07, 2021 09:41 AM (ONvIw)

563 535 the issue has been laid bare

really? the only folks i see talking about the issue are those that were already talking about it. everyone else is talking about the riot.

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at January 07, 2021 09:42 AM (5br8a)

564 RE: Pence, there was a Twitter thread the other day about Pence being one of the people behind Russiagate. Trump was supposed to get removed, Pence would be installed and Rob Rostenstein was going to be VP, and some day president.

Posted by: shibumi galt, welcome to the shitshow at January 07, 2021 09:42 AM (ZCiJZ)

565 Hmm...

Sounds like someone's gotten into the bath salts this morning.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2021 09:43 AM (V4X8U)

566 Israel is the one in trouble. The US government is now squarely aligned with and assisting Iran.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:43 AM (PMAX0)

567 Taiwan can't be taken rapidly. Amphibious assault on a heavily fortified and prepared target is pretty much a no-go, especially with a force as inexperienced as the Chinese. It can be put under siege though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 07, 2021 09:36 AM (Zm+LZ)
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It *can* be done, but it is catastrophically expensive. See Iwo Jima and Okinawa as examples, and the casualty planning for the invasions of the southern home islands for additional evidence.

That kind of assault is brutal and deadly and horrible on everyone involved.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:43 AM (UZVEt)

568 Since the US government is the world's largest criminal syndicate their actions over the last several years are predictable. Trump played the part of a mob family disrupter. The various members and their positions in the syndicate used to be a secret, but not any longer and that has made them angry, and perhaps a little fearful. Trump and his associates will not be let off lightly. The rest of us aren't even on their radar, yet. The thing is, this syndicate is made up of some of the stupidest people on the planet. They can be beat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at January 07, 2021 09:43 AM (3H9h1)

569 I am so over the fucking GOP. I voted for Trump twice and I do believe he is still my president, but I know, realistically, he is not. What happened yesterday was because we are fed up and the Washington police were told to halt! I have been waiting for this just as all of you have been. I know this, I will try my best to to vote these old backstabbing filthy rich white men out of office. I have always been told to vote Republican. Well, I will vote to remove the old and get some new Republicans or some new party into office. Hopefully, the GOP have fuck me for the last time and if they think that people have not seen their lack of solidarity for the people that voted for them, then shame on them and their families, because they truly will reap what they sowed on us. And I will not shed a tear at their demise!!!

Biden and Harris are definitely not my president and that whore ain't my VP.

There are better places to live other than the US and I might have to fine that out for myself. I will not live under Communism.

Posted by: JD at January 07, 2021 09:45 AM (+fjIe)

570 Posted by: bat nationalist at January 07, 2021 09:35 AM (+/zF+)

Can't take a banning like a man?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2021 09:45 AM (xT2tT)

571 "suggested on another site was for every single person who is a registered republican to re-register as an independent."

that might be a problem for those supporting their local candidates in a Republican caucus, right down to the local road commissioner.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 07, 2021 09:46 AM (Cus5s)

572 The FBI tweeted for video of people at the rally yesterday so they can harass the patriots to please their new corrupt boss.

Posted by: Valiant at January 07, 2021 09:46 AM (PtppJ)

573 571 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2021 09:45 AM (xT2tT)

It is pretty funny that even me at my worst could honor and walk away for two weeks.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 09:46 AM (Lzpvj)

574 567 Israel is the one in trouble. The US government is now squarely aligned with and assisting Iran.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 07, 2021 09:43 AM (PMAX0)


The Abraham Accords might go a long way in protecting Israel, but most of the region as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 09:46 AM (s2VJv)

575 Yes. It's socialism with a strong admixture of nationalism, i.e., national socialism.

Which is pretty much the definition of fascism, innit?

Fascists are only "right wing" if you are Stalin.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 07, 2021 09:27 AM (2q9zZ)
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There have only ever been *nations* of Socialism. "International Socialism" is a pipedream that does not exist. Bernie-bros want to turn *this* union socialists.

It's been a line that I've repeated but Mao did not throw in with Stalin, Pol Pot with Mao, Castro with Khrushchev.

In fact, each country has become its own socialism. There *is* no other exhibited type of "socialism", *but* national. The Italians were right.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:47 AM (FYe3W)

576 Politicians should live in fear of the people every day. It should be a job no one wants.

Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 09:47 AM (+y8uL)

577 You guys are missing the big picture.
<br>
This is it. THE END. Of Everything. We've been in the End Times for a while, and now we're finally at the End of the End Times. The Great Reset stuff is going to happen, and it will usher in the One World Government helmed by the Anti-Christ. <br> The Virgin Mary's been telling people for years, at Fatima, Medjugorie, and elsewhere that this is coming. And look around. It's here. We, humanity, are even more wicked than the people God flooded out in the time of Noah. So get yourselves right with Jesus, because He's coming soon, and watch for 3 days of darkness and an illumination of conscience.

Posted by: The Warning at January 07, 2021 09:47 AM (LfVij)

578 568 Taiwan can't be taken rapidly. Amphibious assault on a heavily fortified and prepared target is pretty much a no-go, especially with a force as inexperienced as the Chinese. It can be put under siege though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 07, 2021 09:36 AM (Zm+LZ)
++++
It *can* be done, but it is catastrophically expensive. See Iwo Jima and Okinawa as examples, and the casualty planning for the invasions of the southern home islands for additional evidence.

That kind of assault is brutal and deadly and horrible on everyone involved.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:43 AM (UZVEt)


The Chi-Coms are going to have to literally nuke Taiwan to take it. For all the bluster about their military - and it is a serious force - if the Taiwanese manage to hold them off and bloody them good like the Finns did to the Soviets in 1939-40, that could cause all sorts of problems internally for the Reds.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 09:49 AM (s2VJv)

579 292 290 Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 08:47 AM (kfcYC)


I was not implying he is legitimate, just that that was the process. Sham that it was.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I know, I was just emphasizing the illegitimacy to clarify. Thanks for the great work. Keep good thoughts. Not easy I know. I too am fkking devastated, but I believe in the American people--its not over. The spirit that built the Tea Party and then MAGA lives although it takes a shit-knocking from time to time. That's my belief.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 09:49 AM (kfcYC)

580 >>The FBI tweeted for video of people at the rally yesterday so they can harass the patriots to please their new corrupt boss.


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE TWITTER, FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE HAE ALREADY BLOCKED OR DELETED WHATEVER PATRIOTS WERE POSTING FROM THE MARCH TO PROTECT THE ANTIFA PLANTS AND LAX CAPITOL POLICE.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 07, 2021 09:49 AM (bDqIh)

581 579 Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 09:49 AM (kfcYC)


Political parties, process and regular order such as they were are dead.

it is now all about movements.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 09:50 AM (s2VJv)

582 If it was the actions of Trump People I 100% condone.
I do have kids and I'd rather fight now rather than when they are trying to rip them from my wife's arms because I did nothing.

Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at January 07, 2021 09:50 AM (lfSFb)

583 I just tried to cancel my donaldjtrump recurring donation since backstabbing mitch the bitch and company get most of it. Apparently there is no way to cancel, so I disputed the charge. When Trump starts something where it all goes to him, I'm back in. F the GOPe.

I'm sure glad I wised up and stopped donating to deepstate tools Loeffler and Perdue after the 1st week in Dec. What a maroon I was. I was getting emails texts from them asking for money up to election day.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2021 09:51 AM (cCxiu)

584 Thanks J.J. for what is undoubtedly a tough morning.

I'm fairly dejected today, but I'll save that for later posting. I just wanted to say thank you and please keep it rolling.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump won at January 07, 2021 09:51 AM (Dl2Hf)

585 Felt weird waking up no longer shackled to 49 other states.

Free as a bird.

Posted by: Shenanigans at January 07, 2021 09:51 AM (ZR7kf)

586 In fact, each country has become its own socialism. There *is* no other exhibited type of "socialism", *but* national. The Italians were right.
Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:47 AM (FYe3W)

This is an interesting argument.

However, there was widespread cooperation, even between communist countries. The Soviets sent advisors and money to Cuba, China did even more with North Vietnam. China and North Korea as well.

It does seem to break down on... ethnic/cultural lines? But even there you had Soviets/Cubans.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:52 AM (lmikk)

587 567 Taiwan can't be taken rapidly. Amphibious assault on a heavily fortified and prepared target is pretty much a no-go, especially with a force as inexperienced as the Chinese. It can be put under siege though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 07, 2021 09:36 AM (Zm+LZ)
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It *can* be done, but it is catastrophically expensive. See Iwo Jima and Okinawa as examples, and the casualty planning for the invasions of the southern home islands for additional evidence.

That kind of assault is brutal and deadly and horrible on everyone involved.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:43 AM (UZVEt)

Iwo Jima had only 20,0000 enemy troops. An invasion of Taiwan would be looking at fighting 5x that number with considerably better defenses and support, not to mention the ability to quickly recruit new troops.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at January 07, 2021 09:52 AM (Zm+LZ)

588 Another thing about Marxist revolutions. The "champions" have never wanted to give up power once they got it.

Ever. That's why each new Marxist tyrant retains the power they wrested control of.

But this is the recipe of Marxism, revolt from "Capitalism" and whatever follows is better than "Capitalism", by not being "Capitalism".

So, you really can't say that it's never been done right. It's never *finished* according to wishes and expectations, but it's been done the same way, over and over again.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:52 AM (FYe3W)

589 Taiwan 3 gorges . Done

Posted by: RedDish on the tablet at January 07, 2021 09:53 AM (AjwWO)

590 Texas and several other states will be seceding since the Supreme Court told them they have no standing.

I'd like an explanation of how the entire country gets to comment on my required individual 404 environmental permit to move a stream yet Texas and 16 other states don't have standing to question the legality of an election so fraudulent it can't be questioned?

Posted by: DanMan at January 07, 2021 09:53 AM (aUOqu)

591 The Chi-Coms are going to have to literally nuke Taiwan to take it. For all the bluster about their military - and it is a serious force - if the Taiwanese manage to hold them off and bloody them good like the Finns did to the Soviets in 1939-40, that could cause all sorts of problems internally for the Reds.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 09:49 AM (s2VJv)
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Yup, which is why if they try it then nukes are on the table from the time the first man steps onto the first gangplank. If it goes like the Winter War did, then they will let fly with the nukes because defeat would be far more unpalatable than nuking the prize they wanted so much. Whatever the consequences of that action, I suspect China will view them as less severe than defeat.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:53 AM (UZVEt)

592 In the end it's about power. People like Democrats who will pay any price and brook every fraudulent, despotic tactic to get it always have a goal, and that goal never ends well for the people. History bears that out.

When McConnell and people like McCarthy said yesterday they will "work together" with Democrats, knowing full well their agenda to destroy America as we know it, hearts sank across the country. It just seemed like their submission and failure to protect us was complete.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 07, 2021 09:53 AM (zruA2)

593 And this vile lout Corey Bush is introducing legislation to have those who moved to challenge the Electoral College expelled from office

The date on that document is 05 Jan., i.e. day before yesterday*. Hmmmmm ...

* As the Old Perfesser said, "You could look it up."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2021 09:53 AM (DMUuz)

594 Thanks JJ. I never said thanks to you before, but I read this EVERY morning. I consider it the real news, the only news.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2021 09:53 AM (cCxiu)

595 570 Posted by: bat nationalist at January 07, 2021 09:35 AM (+/zF+)

Can't take a banning like a man?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2021 09:45 AM (xT2tT)

I can. I guess dropping linked with sources of info is bad just like big tech believes.
Bye Bye, good Luck and God Bless.

Posted by: bat nationalist at January 07, 2021 09:54 AM (KsNSa)

596 589 Taiwan NUKES 3 gorges . Done
Posted by: RedDish on the tablet at January 07, 2021 09:53 AM (AjwWO)

FIFY.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:54 AM (lmikk)

597 ... However, there was widespread cooperation, even between communist countries. The Soviets sent advisors and money to Cuba, China did even more with North Vietnam. China and North Korea as well. ...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2021 09:52 AM (lmikk)
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That wasn't so much cooperation as it was a traditional empire/vassal configuration, albeit rooted in Marxism instead of monarchism. There has never been a cooperative internationalist communist structure. There's been nationalist socialism (Germany, China, etc.) and imperial communism, but never the planned outcome of stateless cooperative trans-regional communism.

Because that's a stupider idea than even national or imperial socialism.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 09:55 AM (UZVEt)

598 Sent some funds your way JJ. Keep it up!

Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 09:55 AM (+y8uL)

599 337 Pence is a "let's not make waves" kind of guy. Great for when the going is good, not for when tough choices have to be made, like yesterday.
Posted by: josephistan

When Pence asks himself, "What would Jesus do?" could he possibly come up with "Not make waves"?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 09:56 AM (kfcYC)

600 "The Inconvenient Skeptic," can be a guide to our present political climate. Since the fall of man, we have been in an human ice age. From time to time, (always after much suffering,) humanity enters a warm period like the Greek Republic, the Renaissance, and the ascendant United States. Trump presided over the end of the U. S. Summer. But Old Man Winter, (in this case old man Biden,) displaces warmth with withering. A poem is appropriate at this time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syj6pbg9U2g.

Posted by: Marooned at January 07, 2021 09:56 AM (yYptV)

601 Giggle. Thanks Aetius541AD. My vpn was down and i was trying to be subtle. Its working now, so...it doesnt need a nuke. One or two conventional missle strikes should do.

Posted by: RedDish on the tablet at January 07, 2021 09:57 AM (AjwWO)

602 Prediction: this is the year we find out google has been using the social credit score system they developed for the CCP on us.

Just, you know, to iron out the wrinkles.

Posted by: Jb at January 07, 2021 09:57 AM (TO8Xm)

603 Mussolini was a head-in-the-clouds Marxist through his early rising fame. But he and Gentile began to disbelieve that there would ever be a revolution where all countries are overthrown at once.

It would be country by country. And then the revolutionists would have to use the store of power that this country had shored up for itself.

Countries would be converted to socialism, not all nations at once.

This is how they came to advance *national* socialism.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:57 AM (FYe3W)

604 When Pence asks himself, "What would Jesus do?" could he possibly come up with "Not make waves"?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 09:56 AM (kfcYC)
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Yep. He would never overturn tables and chase people out of a temple or cause a ruckus.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:58 AM (FYe3W)

605
Twitter took down the video of the cop shooting her.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:59 AM (nw6Hr)

606 This is how they came to advance *national* socialism.
Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2021 09:57 AM (FYe3W)
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The Great War had a *ton* to do with this. If Marx had been right, WWI should have led to the revolution. It really was, to a significant degree, the proles fighting the rich man's and kings' stupid, pointless war with their blood and treasure. It *should* have led to the revolution.

It didn't. Culture, nation, language and faith are too big a part of identity. Class just isn't, even in stratified lands. The First World War proved Marx's underlying thesis wrong. The fascists retooled socialism to redefine it along boundaries that actually exist and that people actually found important.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 10:00 AM (UZVEt)

607 DanMan: "I'd like an explanation of..."

Calvinball.

The rules and the law are the rules and the law until they aren't. And on any given day, one level in the super-hierarchy can change a gear because it decides it wants to and it will be changed unless other gears decide otherwise. Alas, the squeakiest gear gets greased.

But the rule ultimately is that there are no rules. There is only power and the exercise of it.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 07, 2021 10:00 AM (HhXSr)

608 It is not Trump who has crossed the Rubicon.

Posted by: Ronzoni at January 07, 2021 10:00 AM (fCQnl)

609 There's a lot of ruin in a nation. We're just getting started, unfortunately. Gird your loins friends. Prepare body and spirit.

Posted by: Syracuse1989 at January 07, 2021 10:01 AM (exm8+)

610 605 Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 09:59 AM (nw6Hr)

Correct.

I told you that the cop will be promoted, we will never know their name if need be but the cop will get promoted.

Did exactly what the politicians wanted.

If the media won't report the name, and the social media types suppress any mention of the event how precisely can society control any outcome to any action by the government?

The United States is a soft spoken police state for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 10:01 AM (Lzpvj)

611 I'd like an explanation of how the entire country gets to comment on my required individual 404 environmental permit to move a stream yet Texas and 16 other states don't have standing to question the legality of an election so fraudulent it can't be questioned?
Posted by: DanMan at January 07, 2021 09:53 AM


If we have to explain it to you, you wouldn't understand.

Posted by: Your Progressive Betters at January 07, 2021 10:02 AM (DMUuz)

612

Like Ace keeps saying, there is no way we will ever live together in peace again. There is no going back. Trump tried to help ALL Americans. All races, all levels of wealth, all American businesses. Agriculture, mining. And negotiated Middle East peace deals like no other in the history of the world. And this is what he and we got.

They hate us.

If not a 3rd party, secede from the union. People will flock to freedom. New United States. Leave the cesspools for McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, the MSM, Hollywood, Pence, Obama, Shrillary and block people like Soros from even being able to communicate within the new country. No matter what people say, there is no way out of this. We just tried. The elections are rigged forever now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 10:02 AM (sfhL4)

613 The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) has thousands upon thousands of ballistic missiles that are not armed with nuclear warheads. They can salvo those onto Taiwan's military infrastructure and cripple their government in a matter of hours without ever leaving the mainland.

Taiwan is very much "at risk." Would China do it? You betcha they would especially if they thought they'd get away with it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at January 07, 2021 10:03 AM (3H9h1)

614 598 Sent some funds your way JJ. Keep it up!
Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 09:55 AM (+y8uL)


Much appreciated, sir! (ma'am?)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 10:03 AM (s2VJv)

615 Sent some funds your way JJ. Keep it up!
Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 09:55 AM (+y8uL)
++++
How does one do that? I'm down for it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 10:05 AM (UZVEt)

616
Been cleaning out my circle of "friends" this morning.

Kinda.... refreshing.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2021 10:05 AM (nw6Hr)

617 613 Taiwan is very much "at risk." Would China do it? You betcha they would especially if they thought they'd get away with it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at January 07, 2021 10:03 AM (3H9h1)


Sure they can try to do it. But even if they do do it, Taiwan is going to bloody them so badly that that will not look good, externally and more importantly internally.

That is if it gets past the censors. And when the body bags come home, most people will get the message. Just like what happened to the Russian kids who got meat grindered in the Afghan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 10:06 AM (s2VJv)

618 532 I'm listening to Trey Gowdy's blather about this is a nation of laws and storming the people's house is wrong. Nation of laws? Fck him. Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (t8ef1)

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German Shepherd Feces > Trey Gowdy

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at January 07, 2021 10:06 AM (MkuC5)

619 615 Sent some funds your way JJ. Keep it up!
Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 09:55 AM (+y8uL)
++++
How does one do that? I'm down for it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 07, 2021 10:05 AM (UZVEt)


Hit the link in my nic and look for the tip jar. Thank you!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 10:07 AM (s2VJv)

620 I'm listening to Trey Gowdy's blather about this is a nation of laws and storming the people's house is wrong. Nation of laws? Fck him. Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2021 09:32 AM (t8ef1)

It's almost comical when these clowns ignore the last 4 years and say garbage like this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 10:07 AM (sfhL4)

621 Trey Gowdy types enjoy being on TV enough to sit mute while their "democrat foes" set up a system to allow Antifa to riot at will.

Get good and angry at "their" voters who are angry.

Fuck them.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 10:08 AM (Lzpvj)

622 TheQuietMan: "I'm listening to Trey Gowdy's blather..."

Yeah, it's probably better not to do that.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 07, 2021 10:08 AM (HhXSr)

623 It's almost comical when these clowns ignore the last 4 years and say garbage like this.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2021 10:07 AM (sfhL4)

That's the game now... they have been trying to force a reaction for months and they finally got some tape they can use to turn it all. If one steps back, it's all pretty weak sauce but its all they have and they have to go all in.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump won at January 07, 2021 10:11 AM (Dl2Hf)

624 When Pence asks himself, "What would Jesus do?" could he possibly come up with "Not make waves"?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 09:56 AM (kfcYC)

Jesus DID make waves.

It's why the Sanhedrin wanted him killed.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Minister Of Silly Walks-Elect at January 07, 2021 10:12 AM (aommx)

625 Gowdy: "Nation of laws"

Now I know with absolute certitude the guy's a fool. Maybe he can sell that soapbox for a Twinkie somewhere.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 07, 2021 10:12 AM (HhXSr)

626 617 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 10:06 AM (s2VJv)

The Soviet Union died because of 4 events that all were too big to not notice: 1) The Great Stagnation and soft Stalinism of Brezhnev failing so badly, 2) Afghanistan sending with silence form the media tens of thousands of wounded Russians with no explanation beyond 'America's fault', 3) Chernobyl no way Ivan could hide that one, 4) the global rejection of the make-believe Soviet reaction to 2 and 3.

The Soviets like what Amerika is becoming had total party control of the media, and it was that very control that doomed them because it was that total control that in the end made the system itself 100% accountable.

The budding communists coming through the pipe will miss the illusion of party factionalism when it is gone.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 10:12 AM (Lzpvj)

627 I flipped to the news channels and was sporadically watching the EC votes yesterday, after midnight.

The objection came for PA. They talked for 10 minutes or so and then voted. Overruled. PA is fantastic.

Pence stopped the tally. I'm guessing so they can quickly finish it today on tv and give some air of legitimacy to Biden.

The 'people' on air still sounded shaken and were hiding it as outrage. That got to them yesterday. Their fear was sweet.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 07, 2021 10:14 AM (v2c9/)

628 So instead of getting to work to save the country we are back to let it burn. This is why "my side" keeps losing. You want everything handed to you without getting engaged, without spending money, without learning a damn thing. The left has academia, media, the press and now the government, the ENTIRE government. Did this happen over night? I would ask that the right do what the left has done: Organize in a substantive way and push back, but the historic answer has been FUCK OFF. So congratulations, it's literally burning.

Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 10:14 AM (K2Psk)

629 We are at the beginning of a new era.

Those on the right who believe they have no choice or avenue to voice their views will turn to violence. Not the left's "burn down the neighborhood" craziness, but targeted violence meant to send a message.

High profile people in the media and high tech will be taken out by patriots who feel they have to defend the country. Things will change when people who control the narrative believe this is serious and not a game.

Posted by: jwest at January 07, 2021 10:15 AM (/BlEx)

630 628 Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 10:14 AM (K2Psk)

Yes it will all be saved if we keep voting people who are willing to engage in the cognitive dissonance of ignoring Antifa and saying the people yesterday were the end of the Republic.

Or you know "not."

At best it leads to the left winning slow and at worst it ends with us in camps.

Enjoy the fire.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 10:18 AM (Lzpvj)

631 Trump should not run in 2024. But, Republicans need to buck up and fight. Just be a bit more eloquent.

Get rid of Mitch. He's done. They are the minority now. Tom Cotton for Senate Minority Leader.

Posted by: jeff at January 07, 2021 10:18 AM (J2JqR)

632 Those on the right who believe they have no choice or avenue to voice their views will turn to violence. Not the left's "burn down the neighborhood" craziness, but targeted violence meant to send a message.

High profile people in the media and high tech will be taken out by patriots who feel they have to defend the country. Things will change when people who control the narrative believe this is serious and not a game.
Posted by: jwest at January 07, 2021 10:15 AM (/BlEx)

I believe that too. I thought at points yesterday was the start, but should have known better. The real war will start when Trump is out of office. All legal options will have been pursued, they will have been defeated by a thoroughly corrupt system and those with nothing left to lose or simply looking for excitement have every reason to do as they see fit.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 07, 2021 10:20 AM (v2c9/)

633 631 Posted by: jeff at January 07, 2021 10:18 AM (J2JqR)

Bwahaha Tom Cotton is part of why we are where we are.

"Well gosh Cobb County just counts slow, and nothing wrong with democrat cities calling it a night *wink*."

//Tom Cotton

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 10:20 AM (Lzpvj)

634 632 Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 07, 2021 10:20 AM (v2c9/)

Pipewrench

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 10:21 AM (Lzpvj)

635 Political corruption at the Federal level in the US has never really been about shaking down Americans. Sure there has been some, but it's too hard to hide and you make enemies that can actually do something about it.

No, the real graft is in leveraging foreign aid and agreements to shake down people and companies in other countries like Biden and Hillary has. What are they going to do, take you to the UN?

The US isn't liked in many places, but what they don't tell you is that the US isn't liked because our federal politicians have leveraging US power to enrich themselves off foreigners for decades.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 07, 2021 10:30 AM (1ISKN)

636 Excellent words. But I want to hear less hand wringing about the country, and vague talk about "Draining the swamp" and more concrete action about primarying and if necessary staying home/voting 3rd party to destroy these RINO traitors.

What is the use of Thune, Lisa Murkey, Or Mittens? we need to get rid of them by all means necessary. Better an open enemy, than traitors.

Posted by: rcocean at January 07, 2021 10:30 AM (evE25)

637 Someone released the video showing the capital plain clothes officer straight up shooting Ashli dead.

Simply shot because she had climbed into the window frame.

I'd like to know what rules or orders he was given and why the use of deadly force was acceptable there. That motherfucker needs to hang.

At worst, you arrest her. But killing her?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2021 10:31 AM (Q87rR)

638 Trump will be more dangerous OUT of Office. He won't have the constraints of Presidential Decorum to hold him back.
And lettuce not forget, he IS a Multi-Billionaire.

dimocraps are the sccum of the Earth. Look at all the popular uprisings in human history and tell me how is it that anybody is being mistreated in this Country?

Are you fucking kidding me? Blacks and Women get preferential treatment EVERYWHERE and for EVERYTHING. What are they crying about?? It's just sloganeering. dimocraps are scum. Plain and simple. scum

Posted by: Uncle Rick at January 07, 2021 10:31 AM (48/MM)

639 How many trump supporters showed up in DC? 100,000? How many "Stormed the Capital? 300? And how many of those were truly Trump supporters and not anarchists', crazies, or antifa false flaggers?

Just like Charlottsville, there's a massive amount of fake hysteria and outrage. And too many on the Center-right have played into it, with shouts of "Shoot them" or "Mobs storming the Capital".

Posted by: rcocean at January 07, 2021 10:33 AM (evE25)

640 I condone it and more - the founders fought a bloody, multi-year war over a government that did not represent them.


Frankly, I don't see anything wrong with what happened yesterday with the protestors other than the cold blooded murder of that woman veteran by Congress' armed enforcers.

Posted by: Lulu at January 07, 2021 10:34 AM (Ve//x)

641 FBI
@FBI
The FBI is seeking to identify individuals instigating violence in Washington, D.C. We are accepting tips and digital media depicting rioting or violence in and around the U.S. Capitol on January 6. If you have information, visit http://fbi.gov/USCapitol.
~~~~~

Bastards.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 07, 2021 10:35 AM (sGotD)

642 The police officer who murdered that young woman (an AF Vet and Security officer) needs to be put in jail and the family needs to sue DC for all their worth.

This woman was murdered.

Posted by: rcocean at January 07, 2021 10:35 AM (evE25)

643 When Pence asks himself, "What would Jesus do?" could he possibly come up with "Not make waves"?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 07, 2021 09:56 AM (kfcYC)

@@@

I think he confused WWJD with what would Judas do

Posted by: Piratepatch at January 07, 2021 10:41 AM (bVLDQ)

644 I'm trying to remember since the beginning of the BLM/Antifa choreography. Did anyone during their rioting get shot and killed by state police/security? Or just get shot? Because I can't recall that happening.

Over a year of mass rioting and not one direct casualty via sanctioned state hands during those protests.

Meanwhile one of the few mass protest marches from the Right and an unarmed female is shot in cold blood. A shot to kill. After about an hour of protesting.

Yeah, I'm not counting on police at any level to "defend the country". They're paid state agents and will "just follow orders" exactly as it happens in any tyranny across the globe. It's another one of those clarifying moments that sets truth to the lie about service to and for the country.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 07, 2021 10:43 AM (HhXSr)

645 If there is a civil war
count me in.
Pew pew.

Posted by: Watchdog at January 07, 2021 10:45 AM (L+jCO)

646 Impeachment is guaranteed.

Doesn't matter that person is no longer in office.

The effect of impeachment is permanent bar against holding Executive branch officer forever.

Which is why Killary should have been impeached back in the day. But whatever.

Posted by: DaneSkold at January 07, 2021 10:46 AM (Y8V3C)

647 630 "Yes it will all be saved if we keep voting people who are willing to engage in the cognitive dissonance of ignoring Antifa and saying the people yesterday were the end of the Republic."
Show me a Republican who ignored or enabled Antifa or a Democrat who didn't give them cover. Do you think that there will be anything positive to come out of yesterday's events for the right? Or conservatives?
Better to stay at home and complain on the internet that not enough has been done for you by other people. Did Stacey Abrams "let it burn"? No, she cooked the system. Is she smarter than you are? Is she more patriotic?
Where are you going to go when this all fails?

Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 10:53 AM (K2Psk)

648 647 Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 10:53 AM (K2Psk)

I just witnessed a lot of Republicrat pols decry vociferously "our" rioters.

Tell me has Joe Biden answered to the moral impact of Antifa/BLM yet?

Nope, donkey is where donkey is because donkey has been successfully running an open aired insurgency with Republican indifference for decades since recounts 2000.

So is the answer to why the GOP did nothing stupidity or malfeasance?

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 10:57 AM (Lzpvj)

649 647 Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 10:53 AM (K2Psk)

The other question is "where are you gong?"

I am staying here and enjoying the show.

Why are we where we are?

Let me tell you a story once upon a time there was a poster named Sven who pointed out in the wake of recounts 2000 and 9/11 that the "opposition" political party was in fact a fifth column that was engaging in a criminal conspiracy to destroy Constitutional governance

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 10:59 AM (Lzpvj)

650 Old theory of government:
Governments derive their just power by the consent of the governed. (Declaration of Independence)
New theory of government:
Governments derive their unjust power by the consent of the technicians controlling the ballot counting machines.

Posted by: mathman at January 07, 2021 10:59 AM (Ek0f6)

651 Sven highlighted with historical examples and citations from US Army field manuals on insurgency and counter-insurgency what was going on, he network mapped the likely democrat gambits on impeachment and the refusal to concede ANY election.

After their 2004 rage fest he pointed out that Soros et al would grab for the people controlling political oversight of elections and criminal prosecutions because get this IT IS ACTUALLY part of historical insurgency models.

What was his reward?

He was treated as a bomb throwing pariah by people like Glee Gang Malor and Drew "But Captain if we just give up these 900 policy and moral positions and empower the GOP one more time it is all ducky don't rock the boat!" M tweets.

You want hard direct action against these communists?

You have to be willing to engage in jury nullification and HARD ruthless politically motivated prosecutions.

And not enough on "our" side are, so hey sport we have been doomed to burn since Jan 2001.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 11:03 AM (Lzpvj)

652 Everyone is within driving distance to the civil war.

Posted by: thesgm at January 07, 2021 11:05 AM (OmCD9)

653 652 Posted by: thesgm at January 07, 2021 11:05 AM (OmCD9)

Correct and one side will actually kill you for disagreeing, and the other side has more than half of it that will decry the people on their own side who object to being shot as "causing all this!"

If you want to change how things are going you have to be at least as serious as the actual legit free sh*t for all and burn the bill of rights up types openly advocating for slow roll genocide types on the other side are.

We are not there yet and likely never will be.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 11:08 AM (Lzpvj)

654 648 649
"I am staying here and enjoying the show."

So you are "enjoying" this? Are you going to enjoy the economic collapse and turning the country into Portland?

"Why are we where we are?"

Because the left has outworked us in a smarter, more focused way while the right has been distracted with politics with the comportment of professional wrestling. Just as fixed. We got here by ceeding everything to them, not just politically but everywhere. The solution from this blog has been to let it burn or to arm the treehouse for the next civil war. The GOP hasn't "did nothing" but they sure as hell didn't prep the battlefield like the dems did.
All this steam being blown off here may feel good in the short run but it does nothing to reverse what's going on. Letting it burn makes you just as bad as they are.

Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 11:21 AM (K2Psk)

655 654 Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 11:21 AM (K2Psk)

Cuck Inc was never going to stop what is coming, and too many people too desperately thought wine moms could be reminded that they were getting ready to blow the brains out of what brought the wine.

You should be happy I am letting it burn rather than making it burn.

I assure you I can be a much better arsonist than some brain dead Antifa type.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 11:28 AM (Lzpvj)

656 http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=392023#c34264649
"Cuck Inc was never going to stop what is coming"

LOL, Good thing the populists got it all sorted out when they had the levers of power.
"You should be happy I am letting it burn rather than making it burn."
You are rationalizing your own laziness and mediocrity to be honest. I would be happy if you and the rest of the morons would man up and engage rather than whining from your parents basement and taking your bat and ball and going home.
"I assure you I can be a much better arsonist than some brain dead Antifa type."
You are sooo scary. Really, this is what you are left with at this point, claiming that you can make a bigger mess than antifa. Congratulations.

Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 11:37 AM (K2Psk)

657 656 Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 11:37 AM (K2Psk)

*wink*

I am certain if we just vote harder for the people who just threw our direct action types under the bus it'll all work great.

Fuck off.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 11:42 AM (Lzpvj)

658 To those on the left who are just now cracking open that unused bottle of smelling salts, YOU are the reason I give absolutely no fucks about what happened yesterday. Don't want none, don't start none.

Posted by: MinkMonica at January 07, 2021 11:49 AM (6DV2n)

659 Rush on air.

Posted by: Mongerel at January 07, 2021 12:01 PM (9Tz8F)

660 657
*wink*
Cuck
"I am certain if we just vote harder for the people who just threw our direct action types under the bus it'll all work great."
So those were "direct action types", eh? How did that work out? It seems that all you want is a show. You are literally too stupid to see that you are cutting your own throat. Again and again. You aren't a conservative because you don't want to conserve. You aren't a patriot because you are willing to see the whole thing fail because you have some kind of pipe dream that you will be able to rule over the rubble. Buddy, you were born to fail.

"Fuck off."
Imaginative as always. You have fun shaking your fist here because that's going to get you what you want!

Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 12:06 PM (K2Psk)

661 660 Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 12:06 PM (K2Psk)

Where I want to be is having a conservative support network as ruthless as Antifa's....

since it will never happen go find another person who thinks martyrdom is fun.

Posted by: sven at January 07, 2021 12:15 PM (Lzpvj)

662 491Posted by: SH at January 07, 2021 09:25 AM (sX1BW) -

I have ALWAYS thought that to be exactly what Pence is.
Well said, thank you. He can think he will be on the 2024 ticket but we won't forget. I will be hard pressed and probably will not vote for the usual suspect GOP's.

Posted by: JD at January 07, 2021 12:35 PM (+fjIe)

663 I called for the corgis this morning and I don't even know what that means.

Posted by: funsize at January 07, 2021 12:40 PM (gbEV2)

664 "Where I want to be is having a conservative support network as ruthless as Antifa's...."

Maybe you should want a support network as smart as the tides foundation. But that isn't putting on a big show, just quietly eating our lunch.

We clearly have different objectives. I want to save the republic and you want a tantrum and to blame everyone else because you haven't been handed everything you want for your courageous whining here. The upside is you have plenty of company.

Posted by: Burning at January 07, 2021 01:16 PM (K2Psk)

665 Trump should resign and give this shitshow to Pence.
Posted by: f'd at January 07, 2021 07:49 AM (qF62U)
This, a thousand times this.

Posted by: Bob in Houston at January 07, 2021 01:21 PM (IC7R4)

666 That was some of the worst, word-salad writing I've ever read. Did anyone proof read that mess before posting it?

Posted by: D-FENS at January 07, 2021 02:13 PM (q1ack)

667 Some of the protesters dared to enter the hallowed halls of congress and take selfies. Some went so far as to sit in Nancy's chair! Horrors! How dare the plebes sully the realms of their betters! You know how we can be certain the folks that got in were right wing? Because the congresscritters had rooms to return to after the protesters left. Blm and Antifa would've left them smoking ruins. Also, every one of those statues would've been pulled down and the gift shop looted.

Posted by: Melissa Lotze at January 07, 2021 02:17 PM (appmN)

668 666 That was some of the worst, word-salad writing I've ever read. Did anyone proof read that mess before posting it?
Posted by: D-FENS at January 07, 2021 02:13 PM (q1ack)


You can't be referring to my editorial, I'm sure...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 07, 2021 02:22 PM (s2VJv)

669 Thank you so much Mr. Sefton.
It is more important than you realize that you give voice to the rest of us.
Thank you.

These are painful times. Very painful.

We need someone speaking out and giving voice to our pain.
It helps us bear up.

Posted by: cold civil war at January 07, 2021 03:42 PM (Z2PYk)

670 Allegedly shot hell; she was murdered.
https://twitter.com/dancohen 3000/status/1347076676342185984?s=20


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