Mark Levin's Moving from FaceBook to Parler

The follower count is key. Levin has 4.2 million followers on Parler, which is more than his 2.8 million on Twitter or 1.6 million on Facebook. While Twitter and Facebook have more accounts, Parler's users are highly engaged and responsive. To figures like Levin, engagement and monetization are of much greater importance than the raw number of accounts a platform reaches.

Levin's decision to migrate to Parler is perhaps Parler's biggest endorsement yet. Levin's radio show is among the top five most listened to broadcasts nationwide. He has a strong digital following with his radio show’s podcast and digital show on The Blaze. He also hosts a Sunday night show on Fox News -- Life, Liberty, and Levin -- which often leads cable news that day. His reach spreads across all forms of media.
Should President Donald Trump eventually join or move to Parler, the platform will no longer be ignored by the news outlets that cover Trump's every word, and Trump's news-making persona will not change once he leaves the White House.

It's amazing that Trump has refused to join Parler even as Twitter has censored him and deplatformed his allies.

One of the several things I don't like about Trump is his craving of status and prestige.

And he bases his understanding of prestige on vague Boomer Memories of institutions that were prestigious when he was in his 20s.

Why did he talk to archliberal Maggie Haberman for the first two years of his presidency? Because she works at the Times -- a (formerly) prestige outlet.

And he's stuck with Twitter because it's the established microblogging (monopoly) platform. Didn't matter that it was routinely censoring him and his allies. Gotta be on Twitter, that's the teenager microblogging platform of prestige.

Meanwhile, Twitter is absolutely murdering him. And he remains loyal to it, and continues giving the finger to an upstart ally, Parler -- because Parler doesn't have Twitter's "prestige."

Twitter's prestige. I'd laugh if it wasn't such a sick notion.

Trump has so many self-defeating, self-destructive tendencies. I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump.

I know that Josh Hawley has no childlike respect for Twitter's "prestige," and I'm pretty sure Ron DeSantis doesn't, either.

Posted by: Ace at 03:34 PM

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1 No way

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:34 PM (kTF2Z)

2 Three today and I'm not even trying.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:35 PM (kTF2Z)

3 I'll get the others...

Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2020 03:35 PM (q177U)

4 And good for Mark.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:35 PM (kTF2Z)

5 I nooded

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:35 PM (kTF2Z)

6 Death to Twitter and Facebook!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (Oq/TM)

7 It's going to be so funny to watch the gop lose the senate and the former MAGA grifters like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, and Benny Johnson lose their minds. At least with the democrats we'll get $2,000.

Posted by: Corona-kun at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (OjTGt)

8 Good job, Duke.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (89T5c)

9 GAB is better than all that bullshit.

Posted by: frank at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (KrmLv)

10 Twitter is going to ban Trump once he's out of office. At that point, I expect he will move to Parler (or similar).

Posted by: Revenant at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (//ATM)

11 Parler is having its Section 230 revoked.

Posted by: Democrat Congress at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (Ojki1)

12 Top 10?

Posted by: Nobody at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (giU8k)

13 I wish Trump had won.

Given that, bring on the age of De Santis.

Posted by: Loki at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (KqiMr)

14 Nope.

Posted by: Nobody at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (giU8k)

15 I can't figure Parlor out.

It weird.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (TdMsT)

16 Death to the Technological Tripartite powers!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (ch6++)

17 Iwas on twitter for about 5 minutes and didn't understand what the fuss was about.

Posted by: Flyover at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (Rbu5d)

18 I can't wait for Parler to either cease to exist because of financial pressure or they go just as woke as Twitter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (NWM+b)

19 Burn, Facebook, Burn

Die, Facebook Managers, Die

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, shotguns solve problems at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (d1uFV)

20 So what the fuck is going on with this "new strain?" I hear two conflicting stories: that they have identified it genetically or that it is really based on bad data.

Which is true? It's frustrating because I avoid all covid news unless it pops up on this site so I am totally in the dark.

Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (q177U)

21 Can you view people's Parler posts without joining? I wanted to check it out and I was going to start an account but they wanted my cell phone number which I am hesitant to give up...

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (h1jJh)

22 I could not sign up for Parler and their customer service failed to respond to multiple inquiries. Gab works, and if more normal people would join it would be easier to find interesting conversations there.

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (YkawN)

23 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (arJlL)

24 Parler wants my phone number.

Not going to get it.

Its a closed platform. Cant even see stuff unles you are registered. That makes me suspicious of it.

Posted by: Loki at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (KqiMr)

25 I think I have a Palor account, but until I am a civilian again I am not going to do Palor, Twitter, and my FB page is as plain jayne as it gets. Took me weeks to sanatize my FB page when I got this job I have.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 31, 2020 03:39 PM (85Gof)

26 So what the fuck is going on with this "new strain?" I hear two conflicting stories: that they have identified it genetically or that it is really based on bad data.

Which is true? It's frustrating because I avoid all covid news unless it pops up on this site so I am totally in the dark.
Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (q177U)

They're field testing news stories to figure out which one makes you more panicked. Then they'll go with that one.

Posted by: Vanya at December 31, 2020 03:39 PM (S6ArX)

27 I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump.

I'd like Trump to have an honorary position. A good seat on a high float for all the parades.

Do agree he is his own worst enemy sometimes. Like all of us, but writ large.

Posted by: lizabth at December 31, 2020 03:39 PM (L3Rsz)

28 Does Parler even have Twerkin' Nurses?

Posted by: garrett at December 31, 2020 03:39 PM (2CUvU)

29 My sister has, I should though never had a social media account anywhere.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 03:39 PM (Cxk7w)

30 I'm never joining any of that social media shit. If I wanted to be social, I'd do it in the real world.

And get the f'k off my lawn!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 31, 2020 03:39 PM (1ISKN)

31 Ace, you have a free pass to say whatever you like about Trump, you've earned it. I still love the guy and look forward to 16 more years of his Golden Reign.

Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2020 03:40 PM (q177U)

32 Duke -A hat trick?

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 03:40 PM (Cxk7w)

33 10 Twitter is going to ban Trump once he's out of office. At that point, I expect he will move to Parler (or similar).
Posted by: Revenant at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (//ATM)

And they will do it just to watch him go all ex-girlfriend on them, as he suddenly realizes he was never valued in the relationship but can't get over that he was the one who was dumped.

Like Ace I like a lot of what Trump does, but some of his personality quirks are not attractive.

Posted by: Bete at December 31, 2020 03:40 PM (Ojki1)

34 parler ok
twitter sucks kingkongballs
have you ever opened up the disputes and followed the args
and theres always an anusweasle following PDJTs tweets a flock of assgulls

Posted by: larRo at December 31, 2020 03:40 PM (+ITg4)

35 At least with the democrats we'll get $2,000.
Posted by: Corona-kun at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (OjTGt)

Your mom makes less than that for a month of bjs.

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 03:40 PM (mEuEj)

36 Willowed from last thread. . .

345 . . . a CCTV video appeared to have a rocket trail going down to the street between buildings just a split second before the explosion.
. . .
Posted by: clutch cargo with Extra Hysterical Animal Spirit at December 31, 2020 03:04 PM (L8ADy)

Stepped through the video. The smoke trail looks to me to be moving upward. Likely a piece of smoking wreckage shot skyward by the blast. It would travel faster than smoke and dust would rise. I did blow stuff up for a living in my youth.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 31, 2020 03:41 PM (8C7+r)

37 I have a vague Boomer memory of the DuMont network.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2020 03:41 PM (63Dwl)

38 -Three today and I'm not even trying.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:35 PM (kTF2Z)

yeah, I was happy to see you back and now you're all "look at me" and shit.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - PHD Cannibal Studies at December 31, 2020 03:41 PM (Dz5W3)

39 Twitter lets me get an account without giving them my phone number

Parler does not

Until they change that policy, Parler can FOAD

Posted by: Greg Q at December 31, 2020 03:41 PM (bZ64u)

40 On Parler the hollering volume goes to 11.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 31, 2020 03:41 PM (/Dgcm)

41 We have reached herd immunity in most places.

Not all, but most.

Earlier in the summer reports of antibody testing showed that there between 6 and 15 times infected for every positive test.

Well, Farrs law is in operation as most states peaked out in the last month and then dropped off - including Calizuela. Looking at total infected per hundred, North and South Dakota are close to 11-12 per hundred and Calizuela is close to 6 (but still climbing). ND and SD look like it has peaked out on total infected. I think that the evidence is there to show that this thing will be done without the vaccine by Jan or Feb.

As an addition. If there are 6-15 infections for every positive result, ND and SD would have 66-70 per 100 infected. Or more. Thus, in those two states they have reached herd immunity.

Calizuela may need another surge, but I bet LA is at herd immunity since that is where most of the positives come from. Nor Cal is still waiting foe the shoe to drop.

Just my thought based on the evidence.

Posted by: Loki at December 31, 2020 03:41 PM (KqiMr)

42 One of the several things I don't like about Trump is his craving of status and prestige.
........

and his signing of huge bloated pork filled omnibus bills.

Posted by: wth at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (v0R5T)

43 Not joining any of this shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (89T5c)

44 He can't expose Twitter if he's on Parler.

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (KDCRD)

45 Why yes Duke has a Hat Trick today
Congratulations!

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (Cxk7w)

46 Phyllis McGuire the lead singer and last remaining member of popular 1950s trio the McGuire Sisters has died at 89.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (85Gof)

47 30 I'm never joining any of that social media shit. If I wanted to be social, I'd do it in the real world.

And get the f'k off my lawn!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 31, 2020 03:39 PM (1ISKN)

You wouldn't if you lived under my reign of eternal winter.

Posted by: Gov. Whitmer at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (Ojki1)

48 Wait, there's other sites than the HQ?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (kTF2Z)

49 "One of the several things I don't like about Trump is his craving of status and prestige."
**********

OTOH those cravings got him Melania....

Posted by: Noam Sayen at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (WJcbb)

50

One of the several things I don't like about Trump is his craving of status and prestige.

And he bases his understanding of prestige on vague Boomer Memories of
institutions that were prestigious when he was in his 20s.
does he have a myspace page?

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (sGtp+)

51 It is interesting that ace ascribes the POTUS use of Twitter as child-like desire for SV love. If he did not use Twitter (which banned me) to communicate, nobody would know what is happening. Nobody chatters about Parler posts by politicians. That may change, but for now, Twit and MSM outlets own the coms channels.

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 03:42 PM (YkawN)

52 Trump, that is. Trump can't expose twitter if he's on Parler (and Parler has some security issues, apparently)

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2020 03:43 PM (KDCRD)

53
I can't figure Parlor out.

It weird.
Posted by: Ladyl

It's where you sit waiting for gentlemen callers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2020 03:43 PM (63Dwl)

54 Register early so you can get an advance copy of COVID II. Fauci is signing the first 300 million copies.

Posted by: klaftern at December 31, 2020 03:43 PM (RuIsu)

55 Yup. Trump for all his success has flaws and blind spots. It didn't help the media left and the uniparty hates him. ( and us).

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at December 31, 2020 03:43 PM (0OmEj)

56 Great.

Back to "mean tweets" and "tone" .

Nice to see that self dick stomping with golf cleats is still conservatives go to move.

Posted by: deplorable unperson-maskless and mobile at December 31, 2020 03:43 PM (sczoJ)

57 Yesterday I enjoyed seeing Levin call Andrew Weissman a "shit head" on Twitter.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (WJcbb)

58 It's OK, go for it. I know I'm gonna get shit for saying that.

Posted by: wth at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (v0R5T)

59 (and Parler has some security issues, apparently)
Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2020 03:43 PM (KDCRD)

Been hacked once already, I believe.

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (mEuEj)

60 Flu morphs every year.

Posted by: Gilded at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (BRkq2)

61 In defense of Trump, twitter give/ gave him a bigger audience

Posted by: It's me donna at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (Zmnko)

62
There is no Trumpism without Trump.

Posted by: DAK at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (PtOP4)

63 Still drinking!

BOOM!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (U2p+3)

64
42 and his signing of huge bloated pork filled omnibus bills.
indeed. the rest of the world moved on from omnibus to unibus back in 1970, with the release of the pdp-11.

Posted by: Anachronda, behidn the Newsom curtain at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (v3pYe)

65 One of the several things I don't like about Trump is his craving of status and prestige. And he bases his understanding of prestige on vague Boomer Memories
of institutions that were prestigious when he was in his 20s.

He's typical of his generation - he's trying to apply 1980s thinking to 2020. And he is by no means alone.

Look - I'm not trying to gig the guy. Best president in my lifetime. Better than Reagan - and I don't think it's close. Maybe the most honest politician I've ever seen. His fatal flaw - looking at things in a Cold War way - kept him from seeing his true enemy. And his true enemy was Washington, DC. When you're running as a political outsider - you gotta' understand who your enemy is. Trump - frankly - still doesn't.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (yfUzb)

66 Its a New Yorker's idea of branding...the only thing worse than being talked badly about is not being talked about at all. It worked well - it got him elected.

But now its time for the mantel of Trumpism to be turned over to a new face less beholding to these cretins.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Trump prevails against the elites before Jan 21, but if not, the torch has to go to someone that has complete distain for these idiots.

Posted by: Boswell at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (w2LAm)

67 he has many faults (me too), but look what he has done, with the adversity of all the DemoRATs and RINOs too. amazing. If Pelosi was roasted for 4 years, (Schumer too), just think what crimes would be uncovered.

Posted by: wokers for all at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (9/sZ8)

68 That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Can we have Trumpism post-Trump? Because we're going to need it.

Posted by: Broseidon at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (icI8A)

69
Flu morphs every year.

Posted by: Gilded at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (BRkq2)

Flu Morphs? Are they like Lizard People?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - PHD Cannibal Studies at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (Dz5W3)

70 Wait, there's other sites than the HQ?

*Multiple sources dispute this claim

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (KDCRD)

71 >>>Twitter's prestige. I'd laugh if it wasn't such a sick notion.

Twitter's near-monopolistic control of the market.

Posted by: m at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (7d/2N)

72 It's going to be so funny to watch the gop lose the
senate and the former MAGA grifters like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, and
Benny Johnson lose their minds. At least with the democrats we'll get
$2,000.

Posted by: Corona-kun at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (OjTGt)

-
They need to veto that bill and then everyone needs to say "well you can't stop us from working then". Like $600 or $2000 or $30,000 is a substitute for not having an income. They opened up a can of worms back in March to try to make Trump and Boris Johnson look bad and they put no thought into how to get the worms under control.

Remember when they tried this crap with GW Bush around 2002? Same shit. This is going to happen whenever the globalists need to shake things up.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (h1jJh)

73 Super spreaders gave us a super strain and it's super scary!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (kTF2Z)

74 I don't trust Parler

it's not that I trust Twitter - I don't. But I know they ate hostile territory; I go there to convert. I trust Gab but I don't go there, coz it's not my crowd.

But Parler gives me Black Rifle vibes.

Posted by: Doctor Elect vmom at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (nUhF0)

75 20 So what the fuck is going on with this "new strain?" I hear two conflicting stories: that they have identified it genetically or that it is really based on bad data.

Which is true? It's frustrating because I avoid all covid news unless it pops up on this site so I am totally in the dark.
--------
It's BS invented by the Covid Constables so they can make everyone stay in misery while the vaccine gets downgraded and disparaged. has nothing to do with epidemiology.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (W+kMI)

76 I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism - - without Trump.

How and when is that going to happen?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (CZm2G)

77 Trump is on Twitter because all the journos are, and they echo his quips through their traditional media outlets.

It kinda worked until we gave up on free and fair elections.

Posted by: Desultory joe at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (L9P9s)

78 Bongino mention this this morning and was also talking about a huge migration that's going to happen from Facebook and YouTube To Parler and Rumble.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (GrWar)

79 61 In defense of Trump, twitter give/ gave him a bigger audience
Posted by: It's me donna at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (Zmnko)

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*Snicker*

Yep, we sure do.

Posted by: Twitter at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (RU4sa)

80
I'm listening to Dan Bongino's show right now and he's talking about this. He said more to come on ditching and have replacements for leftist Big Tech.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (UnQ9z)

81 18 I can't wait for Parler to either cease to exist because of financial pressure or they go just as woke as Twitter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (NWM+b)

Agreed. Only a matter of time.

Twitter and Reddit both started out as super "free speech" platforms, too.

Didn't take long for the left to get their tentacles in to them and, well... here we are.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (UPoLF)

82 There is no Trumpism without Trump.

Posted by: DAK at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (PtOP4)

and I don't believe he's going away anyway, no matter what happens.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - PHD Cannibal Studies at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (Dz5W3)

83 4 Parler wants my phone number.

Not going to get it.

Its a closed platform. Cant even see stuff unles you are registered. That makes me suspicious of it.
Posted by: Loki at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (KqiMr)

Hmmmm do not think gab demanded the phone number but not sure.

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (YkawN)

84 78 Bongino mention this this morning and was also talking about a huge migration that's going to happen from Facebook and YouTube To Parler and Rumble.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (GrWar)

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I hope he makes a lot of money off Parler and Rumble.

Posted by: SMH at December 31, 2020 03:47 PM (RU4sa)

85 Whoa, whoa, whoa! All of this social media insider stuff makes me feel like some entity is trying to wax my genitals with lye and a hand grenade.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2020 03:47 PM (WOYcU)

86 To me, this is like criticizing Ike for not invading Sweden in '43

Not saying Trump is perfect, but he seems to be really good at communicating to the public.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 03:47 PM (LWu6U)

87 Wow, #24 Tulsa was almost nearly equal to #90 Mississippi State.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pro-mask study again accidentally confirms that masks are just magic talismans at December 31, 2020 03:47 PM (k1L5r)

88 I think it was Trump's eccentricities and seemingly self-defeating tendencies that got him elected. They don't bother me as much as his missed opportunities to take on the GOPe and the MSM.

His insistence on schmoozing the former and indulging the latter (the ad nauseum "fake news" charge) in the face of their stark contempt for him is too much. You can call it a craving for prestige but I see it more as a soft spot or a blind spot, an excessive generosity or perhaps overweening self-confidence that he can win people over.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (H8QX8)

89 if Trump wasn't the guy he is with all his faults he wouldn't have done the shit he's done with a hearty 'fuck you'.. So theres that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - PHD Cannibal Studies at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (Dz5W3)

90 I'd be more excited about the eventuality of a DeSantis era if I had any reason to believe voting was viable.

Posted by: Methos at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (kOpft)

91 kept him from seeing his true enemy. And his true enemy was Washington, DC. When you're running as a political outsider - you gotta' understand who your enemy is. Trump - frankly - still doesn't.
Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere

True. But a lot of US see it now, and that's a good thing. No more pretending and flag-waving with these enemies.

Actually, a good tell is going to be this: if Trump can't overcome the fraud, and sleepy is 'inaugurated', will Trump attend or no?

If no, I think he now gets it, too.

Posted by: lizabth at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (L3Rsz)

92 81 18 I can't wait for Parler to either cease to exist because of financial pressure or they go just as woke as Twitter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (NWM+b)

Agreed. Only a matter of time.

Twitter and Reddit both started out as super "free speech" platforms, too.

Didn't take long for the left to get their tentacles in to them and, well... here we are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (UPoLF)

=========

The ACLU will defend us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (NWM+b)

93 and I don't believe he's going away anyway, no matter what happens.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob - PHD Cannibal Studies at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (Dz5W3)

Do you believe Dems try to do what they say they're going to do ? Because they've said, for four years, that he's going away. He's going away the hard way.

If I was advising the old guy, he'd already be feathering his nest in Israel by now. Because he's going to need to.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (yfUzb)

94 How and when is that going to happen?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (CZm2G)

People have high hopes for DeSantis being a Trump-like person but with less Trump-like personality traits.

a) I don't think Trumps personality traits are really all that negative, and in fact, I think his relentless self promotion is why he got where he did in life, and without it, none of us would have heard of Trump, nor would he ever come close to becoming president

and

2) I think DeSantis is like all politicians -- he is acting out a role, we have no idea what his real beliefs are, or what he'd be like as president. Trump is unique among politicians in that he doesn't seem to do any acting at all. He's the same person whether he's hosting a game show on TV, or president of the US.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (UPoLF)

95 I don't trust Parler

it's not that I trust Twitter - I don't. But I know they ate hostile territory; I go there to convert. I trust Gab but I don't go there, coz it's not my crowd.

But Parler gives me Black Rifle vibes.
Posted by: Doctor Elect vmom at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (nUhF0)

Mercer billionaires crush Gab like the Kochs crushed the tea party?

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (YkawN)

96 If Parler keeps it's conservative base it should be fine.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (Cxk7w)

97 Still drinking!

BOOM!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (U2p+3)

Its New Years eve of 2020 at 3:50 PM ET - if you aren't well into your second drink - you're not trying!

Do better!

Posted by: Boswell at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (w2LAm)

98 The ACLU will defend us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (NWM+b)

Yes, I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (UPoLF)

99 OT but before I forget, someone asked for the channel on free tv that I watch those old black and white film noir movies from the 40's. Found their website and schedule.

https://moviestvnetwork.com/

Posted by: dartist at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (+ya+t)

100 Given the choice at hand, I'll embrace the power of "neither." AoS is as close as I'll get to social media.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (PBmdd)

101 86 To me, this is like criticizing Ike for not invading Sweden in '43

Not saying Trump is perfect, but he seems to be really good at communicating to the public.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 03:47 PM (LWu6U)
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It's, TRUMP ENVY.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (CZm2G)

102 2020 gives us one more thing: Taylor Swift is a furry

https://tinyurl.com/ybfpmt8m

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (fIGh5)

103 Huh? Thought Trump had used the twatters to his advantage, for direct communication. Still looks that way.

WTF is "Trumpism"? Thought that was one of the dumber (which is saying something) imagined slurs of the NTs and racist-authoritarians. Used to avoid talking about anything that matters - actual policies and results.

But to talk actual substance, what exactly is the "trumpism" you want to see without Trump, ace? Which policies? Who is a credible (forget sincere) carrier of those torches besides him?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (OTzUX)

104 Trump has so many self-defeating, self-destructive tendencies. I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump.

Seconded. Which is why Trump 2024 is a non-starter for me. Along with his kids - no dynasties, whether it is Clinton, Bush, Obama, or even Trump.

Posted by: motionview at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (pYQR/)

105 Realistically, Trump was only ever a Boomer with good instincts. And his instinct led him to seize on the Immigration issue in 2016, the issue the rest of the GOP was paid handsomely to ignore.

But once he got in office the Establishment Squid took over and we got 4 years of mostly Establishment Republican policies. He cut taxes and disastrously let tens of thousands of violent criminals out of prison in a pathetic attempt to get the Media to stop calling him (and the GOP) racist.

Of course, the Media just doubled down on calling him a racist and a White Supremacist and a Nazi. And the tens of thousands of criminals he freed in 2018 proceeded to burn down a dozen cities and launch the biggest crime wave in American history in 2020. The murder rate in American cities has gone up almost 40% this year. The previous record was in the 60s at the start of the last big crime wave. It went up 10-15% one year then.

The GOP Establishment managed to neuter Trump's good instincts in office, so he had nothing left but his bad instincts -- like talking to New York Times reporters cause they're the "paper of record".

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 03:50 PM (eaAeu)

106 "Trump has so many self-defeating, self-destructive tendencies. I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump."

Ace, you're probably right.

Before I toss Trump over the side, though, I'd like to see a Republican politician with a little more than forty percent of his competence and courage.

I don't see that politician on the GOP landscape just yet, however.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 31, 2020 03:50 PM (zbY+V)

107 76 I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism - - without Trump.

How and when is that going to happen?

just like the technique of fighting without fighting. hop in thes boat and we can row over to that island so i can show you.

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 31, 2020 03:50 PM (v3pYe)

108 I think Trump had to use Twitter like the whore that she is, just to effectively get his message out, although he should have been sending the exact same messages via Parler and Gab at the same time. But he had to go around the media somehow, some way.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2020 03:50 PM (r+sAi)

109 Let's face it.
Dan Rather deserves a COVID "Fake But Accurate" pacebo vaccine.

Posted by: SMOD at December 31, 2020 03:50 PM (3aI0K)

110 You can call it a craving for prestige but I see it more as a soft spot or a blind spot, ""

I think he so dearly still wants to believe in America. In the system.

That's a blind spot, or maybe just sentiment.

Posted by: lizabth at December 31, 2020 03:50 PM (L3Rsz)

111 The irony is, the Deep State could have played to Trump's vanity and gotten him to do most of what they wanted.

Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (J70i0)

112 68 That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Can we have Trumpism post-Trump? Because we're going to need it.
Posted by: Broseidon at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (icI8A)

Trump should set up a White House in exile at Mar-a-Lago, continue to opine about issues of the day on both Twitter and Parler (pointing out the many failures of the Pretender), buy a network (or perhaps buy into OANN and merge it with Newsmax), continue to hold rallies, and fund lawfare out the ying-yang to tie up the Biden-Harris Administration in the courts. Find an Alabama judge to issue nationwide injunctions like his Hawaiian counterpart. Now that we've established the principle that a President cannot undo the EO's of a prior President without dotting the i's and crossing the t's, make them fight every step of the way.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (BMmaB)

113 If Parler keeps it's conservative base it should be fine.
Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM ()

Til we come around with the money, of course, and put Poppin Fresh in charge of "Trust & Safety."

Posted by: Salem Media Goons at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (PBmdd)

114 Whoa, whoa, whoa! All of this social media insider stuff makes me feel like some entity is trying to wax my genitals with lye and a hand grenade.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2020 03:47 PM (WOYcU)
........

When that happens be sure to post a vid on Tik Tok.

Posted by: wth at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

115 68 That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Can we have Trumpism post-Trump? Because we're going to need it.
Posted by: Broseidon at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (icI8A)
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The obstacle is financing. Right now all the candidates interview with the big oligarch globalists donors, just like AOC is made fun of for doing.

Not to say you won't get people who TALK the talk. It's part of the kink. If the entire GOP is not backstabbing the candidate every step of the way, that is a problematic signal.

Posted by: Gilded at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (BRkq2)

116 bongino also mentioned an old sci-fi trope that's going to become reality shortly.

The Air Force has something called Project Thor that will deliver telephone pole sized tungsten rods from low Earth orbit at 7 x the speed o' sound to tangos on Earth with the kinetic energy of nuclear weapons but without the fallout.

They're called Rods from God.

Which would also be a great band name.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (GrWar)

117 Should President Donald Trump eventually join or move to Parler, the platform will no longer be ignored by the news outlets that cover Trump's every word, and Trump's news-making persona will not change once he leaves the White House.
..
Debatable..

very doubtful he will stay in the news once he leaves Washington..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (CjFDo)

118 Um ace ?

70% or so percent of your content comes from Twitter.

It makes no sense for Trump to pick a battle with Twitter and insist that they behave properly then run away to Bongino's insecure mess like a little bitch.

Every time he gets censored people get more pissed off. And that's good.

Posted by: deplorable unperson-maskless and mobile at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (sczoJ)

119 Beretta APX 9mm 17rd 4.25" Pistol JAXF921

$330

https://bit.ly/38ReUSx

Posted by: bonhomme at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (i0wNm)

120 I think Trump understands that he can not be too far "out there" or he will be even more dismissed as "alt right."

By staying with twitter and old media icons, he forced them to confront him. They treated him badly, but it would have been worse if it was only them telling the world about his administration without him have a presence outside of his base. If he had gone to upstart competitors, I think the whole movement would have been more easily dismissed and lied about.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (LWu6U)

121 Wait, there's other sites than the HQ?

--

There was one posted on JJ's morning thread today that morons would enjoy. Very much a moron from what I saw:

charltonteaching.blogspot.com

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pro-mask study again accidentally confirms that masks are just magic talismans at December 31, 2020 03:52 PM (k1L5r)

122 Trump gave a blueprint to fight these assholes. You can also see where shit went awry.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 31, 2020 03:52 PM (89T5c)

123 I think DeSantis is like all politicians -- he is acting out a role, we have no idea what his real beliefs are, or what he'd be like as president. Trump is unique among politicians in that he doesn't seem to do any acting at all. He's the same person whether he's hosting a game show on TV, or president of the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:48 PM (UPoLF)

Exactly. No more politicians for me. If you're not an authentic outsider and populist like Trump (but a lot more ruthless), I'm not interested.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 31, 2020 03:53 PM (H8QX8)

124 27 I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump.

Millennial?

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 03:53 PM (YkawN)

125 They're called Rods from God.

Which would also be a great band name.
Posted by: Sharkman
......

metal band of course!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 31, 2020 03:53 PM (CjFDo)

126 Before I toss Trump over the side, though, I'd like to see a Republican politician with a little more than forty percent of his competence and courage.

I don't see that politician on the GOP landscape just yet, however.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

I'm a perfectionist. I want to see a politician with at least 80% of his competence and courage before I'll entertain ANY ideas from them.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2020 03:53 PM (LwB8i)

127 Personally, I don't know a soul that uses twatter. To us, it is a meaningless entity.

Perhaps it's just the circles I run in.

Posted by: Paolo at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (Rvt88)

128 How many unique users frequent facebook / twitter / parlor daily?

Does the average American spend each day checking tweets/posts because where I live people don't even know there is a rally Jan 6.

Posted by: old chick at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (sOete)

129 I can't wait for all this social media garbage is destroyed in a Carrington Event. Then we'll have to talk shit the old fashion way. On the bathroom walls of dive bars.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (4O6NE)

130 WTF is Trumpism

I think Trumpism is the radical notion that the American government should pursue the interests of the American people exclusively, rather than the interests of turds who happen to be wealthy and see themselves as citizens or rulers of planet Earth with no loyalty to any particular nation.

Posted by: Methos at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (kOpft)

131 I come here for the news and the snark, but mostly the snark.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (kTF2Z)

132 But to talk actual substance, what exactly is the "trumpism" you want to see without Trump, ace? Which policies? Who is a credible (forget sincere) carrier of those torches besides him?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (OTzUX)

Yeah, I'm not like a bit Trumper, but I think ace is completely wrong here.

I think ace has been grimacing at Trump the entire time he's been in office, and I think he's missing the point -- without being a bit outrageous, there is no way he would have been elected, nor would he have gotten anything done, nor would we talking about things like immigration and China and whatnot.

Trumps "outrageousness" led to a big shift in the overton window that wouldn't have otherwise happened. Is there a way to accomplish that without being like Trump? I don't know, maybe, but I certainly haven't seen anyone in my lifetime pull it off.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (UPoLF)

133 Parler wants my phone number.

Not going to get it.

Its a closed platform. Cant even see stuff unles you are registered. That makes me suspicious of it.
Posted by: Loki at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (KqiMr)

Hmmmm do not think gab demanded the phone number but not sure.
Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (YkawN)

Yep, I gave them my phone # and sorry I did. Never again. I'm sure Bongino is a good guy, but who's to say he wouldn't sell to a louse for the right price. Gab does NOT want ph #, or at least didn't 5 years ago. Twatter now asks for ph#, I can't unblock my account or open a new one without one.

And Rumbl? They give the impression you can "register" with just email, but I found out that you need to "finish" registration after clicking the confirmation link - they want your phone#. Fuck that shit.

Posted by: clutch cargo with Extra Hysterical Animal Spirit at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (L8ADy)

134 WTF is "Trumpism"?
Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (OTzUX)

This I am sure of - but I can't state it as "fact", because if it's not demonstrable using math, it ain't fact. I think that's a Heinlein paraphrase.

Anyhoo - Trumpism is just a euphamism for a phrase that used to get a couple COBs really, really agitated around here a few years ago. It's Nationalist Populism. Nothing more, and nothing less.

But what was said back then still holds true. First party that embraces Nationalist Populism wins EVERYTHING. How telling is it - that neither party wants to win everything with the formula just demonstrated by the guy that can't deliver a coherent speech, focus for very long, yet won this election by at least ten points ?

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (yfUzb)

135 hahaha

The Tulsa and Mississippi players decided to prove that black lives matter at the end of the game.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pro-mask study again accidentally confirms that masks are just magic talismans at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (k1L5r)

136 I think DeSantis is like all politicians -- he is acting out a role, we have no idea what his real beliefs are, or what he'd be like as president.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

We don't know what Deep State has on him yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2020 03:55 PM (LwB8i)

137 We really blew a big opportunity to bring Big Tech to heel, but Trump only seemed to care about the daily gyrations of the stock market and so never went after any of them.

Posted by: Blago at December 31, 2020 03:55 PM (gkdnV)

138 Off of me Paolo!!

Dude!

Posted by: Paolo at December 31, 2020 03:55 PM (Rvt88)

139 Ugh.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2020 03:55 PM (Rvt88)

140 so O.G. nevertrumpers going back to nevertrumping. who could of guessed.

Posted by: Hungaryan at December 31, 2020 03:55 PM (g741k)

141 When someone says something mean, petty, and wrong, I wonder why he doesn't have a blue check.

Conservatives do make gains, even if it doesn't feel like it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 31, 2020 03:55 PM (/D/3w)

142 Ahem,
Trump DID win.
He is the best damn thing to happen to this country since Ronald Magnus and even has surpassed Ronnie in greatness.
We should all be flipping cartwheels to do whatever is necessary to get President Trump rightfully inaugurated on January 20th, 2021.
Focus, people, focus.

Happy New Year to the Horde!
I now climb down from my soapbox amid the grey boxes.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma, Pope-essa Elect...because... why not? at December 31, 2020 03:55 PM (8/7u2)

143 It's amazing that Trump has refused to join Parler even as Twitter has censored him and deplatformed his allies.
-----------------------

Maybe he's negotiating to buy it?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (ju2Fy)

144 116 bongino also mentioned an old sci-fi trope that's going to become reality shortly.

The Air Force has something called Project Thor that will deliver telephone pole sized tungsten rods from low Earth orbit at 7 x the speed o' sound to tangos on Earth with the kinetic energy of nuclear weapons but without the fallout.

They're called Rods from God.

Which would also be a great band name.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (GrWar)

Wictor thinks it's already been done.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (BMmaB)

145 ace, are you sure Trump does things like Twitter and NYT interviews for the prestige? I'm thinking it's more because that's where the people are, to paraphrase Willie Sutton.

People who like him will find him wherever he is. People who don't won't see anything he writes unless it is presented to them on the platforms they use.

If I were him, I'd be on everything.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (/669Q)

146 Harry, that's a key point - Trump's authenticity. It isn't 100%, but it's far far far greater than any other public figure.

It's one reason he's the only modern president to have constant, unbounded interaction with the press. Nobody in my lifetime did anything remotely like Trump's "helicopter pressers" - completely unscripted, almost daily quick press conferences in which anyone could ask about anything. No briefing books, very rarely any lawyerly answers.

Trump may be wrong on a few important issues, but he absolutely is genuine, and knows what he thinks. He is an actual executive and decision-maker.

This is one unearned, fortuitous gift to the country and the world that may be getting flushed down the toilet.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (OTzUX)

147 2nd scotch
Rib roast in oven might be to rare or just close.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (Cxk7w)

148 yeah, I was happy to see you back and now you're all "look at me" and shit.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob - PHD Cannibal Studies at December 31, 2020 03:41 PM (Dz5W3)

----------

I see you went and got yourself one of those fancy degrees. Is it DOCTOR Cannibal Bob now?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (kTF2Z)

149 I think Trumpism is the radical notion that the American government should pursue the interests of the American people exclusively, rather than the interests of turds who happen to be wealthy and see themselves as citizens or rulers of planet Earth with no loyalty to any particular nation.
Posted by: Methos at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (kOpft)

I think ace is more talking about Trumps style then his substance.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (UPoLF)

150 Kind of a moot point, twitter will totally censor Trump after the WH, so he will have to go elsewhere if he wants social media.
Lightbulb moment! : He should post here.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (r+sAi)

151 Wait until Lin Wood shows up on Parler and lets everyone know Epstein is alive.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 03:57 PM (FDiG/)

152 I think Trumpism is the radical notion that the American government
should pursue the interests of the American people exclusively, rather
than the interests of turds who happen to be wealthy and see themselves
as citizens or rulers of planet Earth with no loyalty to any particular
nation.

Also called "Nationalism". So - what is best for the nation ? Trump practiced a thing called "Populism". And he walked to the front of the GOP Presidential line with that message. And I think we all agree here that he won this election in a landslide with that message. Even implemented less than well, thanks to a ton of inside the beltway opposition and his own lack of focus.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 03:57 PM (yfUzb)

153 wow

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 03:57 PM (4mEO/)

154 @20

It's just furthering the original scam and op...

Ooohhhh we have a new "mutant strain" of the virus!!

LOCKDOWNS FOREVER!!!

JFC!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 31, 2020 03:57 PM (0r64I)

155 92 81 18 I can't wait for Parler to either cease to exist because of financial pressure or they go just as woke as Twitter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 31, 2020 03:37 PM (NWM+b)

Agreed. Only a matter of time.

Twitter and Reddit both started out as super "free speech" platforms, too.

Didn't take long for the left to get their tentacles in to them and, well... here we are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (UPoLF)

Without a VC firm that is willing to commit tens of millions of dollars to finance a woke-resistant infrastructure, Parler will wither on the vine.

No path to profitability at this point for them either, so it's a financial sinkhole as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 31, 2020 03:57 PM (zbY+V)

156 It's amazing that Trump has refused to join Parler even as Twitter has censored him and deplatformed his allies.

-

It's a closed system, isn't it?

I suspect twitter and facebook LOVE conservatives locking themselves in that room.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pro-mask study again accidentally confirms that masks are just magic talismans at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (k1L5r)

157 They're called Rods from God.

Which would also be a great band name.
Posted by: Sharkman
......

If The Paolo had a nickel for every time he heard "Rod from god"...

Posted by: The Paolo at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (Izzlo)

158 Rib roast in oven might be to rare or just close.
Posted by: Skip

Mine also - no pork and sauerkraut this year. Dinner is served at 1830 beeches.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (Rvt88)

159 Trump's trick of fighting with the Media and saying outrageous stuff on Twitter worked great in 2016 because it was a new tactic and they didn't know how to respond.

But by 2020 they knew how to respond. They had spent the last several years systematically suppressing his supporters on Social Media and reducing the reach of his media allies.

In 2015-2016, Trump's supporters could troll shitlib media and bombard them with insults and mockery. And that was really successful. That really shook a lot of shitlib media types, they'd never experienced that kind of in your face pushback.

But by 2020 if you did that you got banned. Shitlib media is now back in their cocoon and safe from much negative feedback. And the Right learned their lesson and fell back to less confrontational tactics because now the price of a successful troll was getting your account banned. Just like getting RT'd by Trump now means your account will probably get nuked.

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (eaAeu)

160
Trump has so many self-defeating, self-destructive tendencies. I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump.

This is the same as when people wish President Trump didn't give the Fake News "so much ammunition."

The problem isn't with Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (o8voq)

161 bongino also mentioned an old sci-fi trope that's going to become reality shortly.

The Air Force has something called Project Thor that will deliver telephone pole sized tungsten rods from low Earth orbit at 7 x the speed o' sound to tangos on Earth with the kinetic energy of nuclear weapons but without the fallout.

They're called Rods from God.
Which would also be a great band name.
Posted by: Sharkman

Wictor thinks it's already been done.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

Call of Duty did it three years ago.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (LwB8i)

162 Remember when Trump made the "outrageous" comment about Megyn Kelly? He didn't crash and burn like so many predicted -- he went UP in the polls.

He's an inimitable character and his authenticity is what sealed the deal. You can't parse out pieces you don't like and expect to keep the whole.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (H8QX8)

163 308 Win - Norma Tac-308 150 Grain FMJ

$1.01/round.

https://bit.ly/3hvy9oK

Posted by: bonhomme at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (i0wNm)

164 I do giggle at people that think Trump just "does" things based on personality quirks. Like Trump sits around on his phone in a room typing with one finger when he has free time. Everything released has a purpose whether us the public get it or not. Doesn't it strike anyone else as very telling that Trump is even president? I dont care how famous you are, people just don't suddenly wander into politics and beat both (or one, if you think the Uniparty chooses the candidates on both sides) party organizations. That should be your tip right there. That doesn't happen.

Posted by: azjaeger at December 31, 2020 03:59 PM (3/XaG)

165 Trump threw back the curtain on so much.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tis teh Season to Save on Scapegoats at The Outrage Outlet! at December 31, 2020 03:59 PM (0QYMt)

166 Someone who wants to be President has to be a top dog and want adoration.
Well normally, Sundowner is a wannabe and doesn't deserve it.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 03:59 PM (Cxk7w)

167 I wish Trump had won.

--

He did. But I know what you're saying.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 03:59 PM (O+I8R)

168 WTF is "Trumpism"? Thought that was one of the dumber (which is saying something) imagined slurs of the NTs and racist-authoritarians. Used to avoid talking about anything that matters - actual policies and results.

But to talk actual substance, what exactly is the "trumpism" you want to see without Trump, ace? Which policies? Who is a credible (forget sincere) carrier of those torches besides him?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (OTzUX)

AMEN. Come up to Reno, have drinks at the casa of the banned. I want to meet your gun maker friend up here anyway.

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 03:59 PM (YkawN)

169 > very doubtful he will stay in the news once he leaves Washington..

I disagree. They are just fucking obsessed with Trump.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 31, 2020 03:59 PM (+U6PJ)

170 Trumpism is 1 reciprocity and 2 not giving something you hold dear but the other side doesn't even want.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (/D/3w)

171 Wait until Lin Wood shows up on Parler and lets everyone know Epstein is alive.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 03:57 PM (FDiG/)

Epstein got a note from his mother to pretend to be dead.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (UnQ9z)

172 Trump threw back the curtain on so much.

His greatest accomplishment - I think AtC coined the phrase. The dropping of the masks.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (yfUzb)

173 Trump may be wrong on a few important issues, but he absolutely is genuine, and knows what he thinks. He is an actual executive and decision-maker.

This is one unearned, fortuitous gift to the country and the world that may be getting flushed down the toilet.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (OTzUX)

Trump becoming President and being who he is is an incredibly unlikely story, and it is unlikely to happen again any time soon.

To get to the position in politics where you can follow the "normal" path to becoming President requires a personality type that most of us would call "sociopathic."

You need to be, essentially, an actor 24/7 for your entire adult life. It's not possible for most of us. Most of us couldn't sit through fundraising dinners and speeches at nursing homes and pretending to want to hang out at small diners in NH with locals talking about shit we don't care about for years of our lives without either snapping or telling a potential voter "I just don't care, I'm sorry."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (UPoLF)

174 I think Trumpism is the radical notion that the American government should pursue the interests of the American people exclusively, rather than the interests of turds who happen to be wealthy and see themselves as citizens or rulers of planet Earth with no loyalty to any particular nation.
Posted by: Methos at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (kOpft)
........

That's just crazy talk. Next you'll be telling me countries should have borders.

Posted by: wth at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

175 Trumpism will survive Trump, I am sure

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (Cxk7w)

176 Trump is the best frontman ever, and the people behind him are strategic geniuses. You will see.

Posted by: azjaeger at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (3/XaG)

177 Ace, with all due respect, there really isn't any Trumpism "without Trump."

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (HrMC1)

178 Beretta APX 9mm 17rd 4.25" Pistol JAXF921

$330

https://bit.ly/38ReUSx
Posted by: bonhomme at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (i0wNm)

I just said no to a Glock17 G3 with 500 rounds of ammo for $1100 (ammo made it tempting). But, not a huge glock fan, and there's a gen5 for same price. CA we get to pay double msrp, especially the off-roster (decent non-handicapped) guns.

I'm picking up a Wilson Combat Beretta 92G Centurion next week, along with a CZ Scorpion EVO3 carbine. Super-duper excited, both off roster. Depending on the FFL, they'll block the magazine, so a proper 20 rounder will only shoot 10. Fuck Newsom, crazy assed mofo. Now all I need is 9mm ammo. It's possible there's some in this God-forsaken state, somewhere. 9mm, 38 special or .357 is all I need. Santa fell down on the job.

Posted by: clutch cargo with Extra Hysterical Animal Spirit at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (L8ADy)

179 "Here's a place on the internet where you can burp out thoughts and people can go here to read them." That doesn't seem all that hard to replicate.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:01 PM (O+I8R)

180 Mine also - no pork and sauerkraut this year. Dinner is served at 1830 beeches.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2020 03:58 PM (Rvt8

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*grabs bottle of red wine, points car towards OH*

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:01 PM (/669Q)

181 135 hahaha

The Tulsa and Mississippi players decided to prove that black lives matter at the end of the game.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Saw 'highlights' of that. Meh, rather watch that Red Wings/Avalanche brawl where the Red Wings took there revenge on Claude Lemieux in the mid 90s.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 31, 2020 04:01 PM (4O6NE)

182 One "Trumpism" I'd like to see dispensed is any criticism of his personality is therefore a sign that you were against his agenda or didn't want him to win.

Trump signing the last Covid bill sort of reminded me of how I felt about Bush on his way out after signing TARP.

Posted by: Blago at December 31, 2020 04:01 PM (gkdnV)

183 "The irony is, the Deep State could have played to Trump's vanity and gotten him to do most of what they wanted."---
I think this is true in broad strokes. Trump is a dealmaker -- if the Dems were willing to treat him as legitimate on day 1 and try to make deals with him, Trump's presidency would have been very different, I think.
The counter to this is that much of Trump A-list agenda had to do with international trade, and, due to the power of the Presidency, he would have accomplished this portion of the agenda regardless. Trump's stance on international trade (especially with China, but also with Europe and Canada) is anathema to the Dems, and might have proven to be a deal-killer to them on everything else, even without the Dems' attempted soft coup attempts.

Posted by: Revenant at December 31, 2020 04:01 PM (//ATM)

184
I don't understand the criticism of President Trump when he did what no one else could do in 2016: defeat clinton.

Trump then followed up by being a great president.
Then Trump won reelection.

The problem isn't Donald Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:01 PM (o8voq)

185 You need to be, essentially, an actor 24/7 for your entire adult life. It's not possible for most of us. Most of us couldn't sit through fundraising dinners and speeches at nursing homes and pretending to want to hang out at small diners in NH with locals talking about shit we don't care about for years of our lives without either snapping or telling a potential voter "I just don't care, I'm sorry."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (UPoLF)

Sounds like Mitt Romney

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (HrMC1)

186 Meaning the Trump philosophy will go on after him

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (Cxk7w)

187 The media will not report on Joe Biden. They will report on Trump pouncing and seizing on what Biden does.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (kTF2Z)

188 And I'd say it's not that President Trump desires the "prestige" of Twitter.

It's just his disruptive and control the news cycle style requires him to be where the people of influence reside and unfortunately that's Twitter.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (FDiG/)

189 NOT have borders

Posted by: wth at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (v0R5T)

190 Trump is the best frontman ever, and the people behind him are strategic geniuses. You will see.

In #twoweeks.

Posted by: motionview at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (pYQR/)

191 The problem isn't Donald Trump.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:01 PM (o8voq)

Yes.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (H8QX8)

192 Also, I think "Trumpism", if we must call it that, survives Trump.

Trump is not the cause. Trump is the result. If they think getting rid of Trump is going to make things All Better, wait until they see what comes after Trump.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (+U6PJ)

193 I think ace is more talking about Trumps style then his substance.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:56 PM (UPoLF)

Without his style there is no Trump. Who else would have the sheer gall to do what he did?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tis the Season to Save on Scapegoats at The Outrage Outlet! at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (0QYMt)

194 Ace this is your forum and you can say what you like. I hope you do not mind me saying that there will not be trumpism without Trump. There will be war and then something different than trumpism.

Your complaints about Trump do remind me of a joke:

A Jewish grandmother was watching her little grandson play on the beach when suddenly a YUGE wave came and swept the boy out toward the sea. She dropped to her knees and cried "please God, save my only grandson. I beg of you, bring him back!" Miraculously, another YUGE wave wave came and deposited the boy back on the shore completely unharmed. The Jewish grandmother hugged her grandson to her then looked up to Heaven and said... "he was wearing a hat."

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (946rW)

195 >>>But to talk actual substance, what exactly is the "trumpism" you want to see without Trump, ace?

border security, anti-establishment/anti-ruling class politics, a renewed interest in protecting the "unprotected" class from the Ruling Class, anti-corporatism, anti-China.

I mean, duh. Populism.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (5+1A/)

196 We needed Trump to gfk with the media. The only critical thing I would say about Trump's style would be to not punch down as we'd say.

Who cares what a dumbass star or athlete says

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (4mEO/)

197 whatever, I fucked it up

Posted by: wth at December 31, 2020 04:03 PM (v0R5T)

198 > Now all I need is 9mm ammo.

https://bit.ly/3mZEUQZ

Posted by: bonhomme at December 31, 2020 04:03 PM (i0wNm)

199
There's a gink in a bowtie from Baylor College of Medicine on the local news channels who's the go-to guy for alarmist reporting on C19. I mute the TV when he comes on, which beats throwing a shoe at the screen.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 31, 2020 04:03 PM (mht8P)

200 >>>It's just his disruptive and control the news cycle style requires him to be where the people of influence reside and unfortunately that's Twitter.

it's also disruptive to promote a challenger to the Ruling Class' messenger app of choice

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:03 PM (5+1A/)

201 Trump may be wrong on a few important issues, but he absolutely is genuine, and knows what he thinks. He is an actual executive and decision-maker.

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Yep.

That part where politicians have to practice for debates or can't answer questions is one of the things that was so refreshing with Trump.

Ask the f*cking question and he'll answer it because he knows what he believes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pro-mask study again accidentally confirms that masks are just magic talismans at December 31, 2020 04:03 PM (k1L5r)

202 I have no problem with hoping for "Trumpism" without Trump, but I'm nowhere near 50-50 in believing any such thing will ever exist.

Posted by: deadrody at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (V9901)

203 Two observations.

1. Trumpism is here for the duration of the republic, no matter how brief that may be.

2. Trump's egotism is the sole reason he survived the onslaught; thank God for it. Can Hawley or De Santis withstand the constant barrage? We don't know yet, but if you had to focus on two who might--might--survive the onslaught, those two would fit the bill.

Trump, warts and all, was and is all between us and totalitarianism. I hope someone can take up the banner. I remain to be convinced they can.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (puu6v)

204 Parler will not be a real player until they remove the wall that is around it. You can't read parleys unless you are a registered user. Parleys can't be embedded in other websites like tweets can be. I really can't blame any politician that doesn't use it under theses circumstances.

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (xPl2J)

205 112 68 That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Can we have Trumpism post-Trump? Because we're going to need it.
Posted by: Broseidon at December 31, 2020 03:45 PM (icI8A)
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Sure, men like Trump are a dime a dozen.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (CZm2G)

206 Prager has mentioned politicians who are just politicians for life but have no desire to do anything else. Sundowner is one of them.Its all just for him and family.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (Cxk7w)

207 you realize trump wouldn't have to get off of Twitter completely?

I mean simply joining Parler and posting there occasionally, to let everyone know there's a twitter competitor and to give it the Trumpian Thumbs-Up.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (5+1A/)

208 Yeah I don't know another guy or gal with the balls Trump has or would have fought as hard economically for American people's interest

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (4mEO/)

209 Nothing personal, but Parler feels as bad as an unfolding lawn chair.

Gab is FAR FAR FAR better and has just started Gab TV. Gab.com operates like butter! Love it!

Posted by: Lost In Space at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (LeNk3)

210 "His fatal flaw - looking at things in a Cold War way - kept him from seeing his true enemy. And his true enemy was Washington, DC. When you're running as a political outsider - you gotta' understand who your enemy is. Trump - frankly - still doesn't."

How do you know this?

Posted by: Suky Tawdry at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (nklea)

211 Trumpism without Trump is called pissedoffism.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (kTF2Z)

212 I have no problem with hoping for "Trumpism" without Trump, but I'm nowhere near 50-50 in believing any such thing will ever exist.

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Oh, I think it will exist. It just won't win any elections in our illegitimate, fraudulent voting system that has now been sanctified by those in power.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (O+I8R)

213 Trump's stance on international trade (especially with
China, but also with Europe and Canada) is anathema to the Dems, and
might have proven to be a deal-killer to them on everything else, even
without the Dems' attempted soft coup attempts.
Posted by: Revenant at December 31, 2020 04:01 PM (//ATM)

Compare that to 1980s Democrats. Protections for American jobs ? Less foreign war ? Less money to Big Biz and more to American workers ? Shit - 2020 Trump would have been THEIR nominee.

Folks - I think it's lost on some here just how "Old School Democrat" Trump is. And it's not a bad thing. It's a case study in just how much these parties have morphed. And also - how much people refuse to see either of them as they are, but rather as they were.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (yfUzb)

214 It is crazy to worry about and hate what Trump isn't when what he isn't makes him the great gift from God he is.

Also, Ace... for the sake of this country... I hope you have occasion to eat your words when Trump is president for the next 4 years.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (946rW)

215 >>>Parler will not be a real player until they remove the wall that is around it. You can't read parleys unless you are a registered user.

yes I hear that's a big limitation on it.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (5+1A/)

216 187 The media will not report on Joe Biden. They will report on Trump pouncing and seizing on what Biden does.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (kTF2Z)

Biden will be at his high point of popularity on January 20, 2021. It will become painfully obvious that he is not up to the job, perhaps in a spectacular fashion.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (BMmaB)

217 Parler will not be a real player until they remove the wall that is around it. You can't read parleys unless you are a registered user. Parleys can't be embedded in other websites like tweets can be. I really can't blame any politician that doesn't use it under theses circumstances.
Posted by: Mark1971 at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (xPl2J)
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Yes, I too find it odd that you can't read on it unless you are registered. I'm sure they have a reason for that but I don't know what it would be.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (/669Q)

218
Posted by: deadrody

Well, you are anti-Trump and always have been.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (o8voq)

219 What Trump should have done, and what all Republicans should systematically do, is deprive shitlib media of news and give it to conservative media instead. Give scoops to your allies, not your enemies.

Give boring boilerplate to your enemies and give juicy scoops to your allies. Stop trying to shame left-wing media into behaving fairly. They're not neutral referees. They're partisans trying to hurt you.

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 04:06 PM (eaAeu)

220 and I don't believe he's going away anyway, no matter what happens.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - PHD Cannibal Studies at December 31, 2020 03:46 PM (Dz5W3)

++++Right now I am seeing Trump booting Bogus Biden's butt down the stairs in the White House. Oh, what a vision.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:06 PM (66BnU)

221 130 WTF is Trumpism

I think Trumpism is the radical notion that the American government should pursue the interests of the American people exclusively, rather than the interests of turds who happen to be wealthy and see themselves as citizens or rulers of planet Earth with no loyalty to any particular nation.
Posted by: Methos at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (kOpft)

Yes. You can come for drinks at casa of the banned too. Fabulous views, great food, Basque charcuterie.

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 04:06 PM (YkawN)

222 A lot of people including me don't want to give information to another site that can decide to be your enemy next year

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:06 PM (4mEO/)

223 Sounds like Mitt Romney
Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:02 PM (HrMC1)

Yeah. Or really any other politician you can name.

Mitt's a bit of an outlier in that he's not very good at it, and looks and acts like a robot.

But that's why I think most people have a natural aversion to politicians. It's like an uncanny valley thing. You know there's something off with the person, but you can't quite put your finger on it, and it makes you uncomfortable.

It's that they are, essentially, b-grade professional actors who are out there improving.*

*Other than Biden. He is so bad at improving, that they wouldn't let him out in public. Had to stick to written talking points.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 04:07 PM (UPoLF)

224 I don't feel as harshly as Ace apparently does regarding Trump's imperfections. Yes...it's true that PDT appears to live in a dream world at times (e.g. his instistence in staying on Twitter). But Trump is human and, therefore, imperfect. Trumpism without Trump (when and if that happens) will have another leader.... who will also be imperfect. I'd prefer to focus on Trump's strengths.... the main one (IMHO) being that he is still fighting....

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 31, 2020 04:07 PM (pcsoT)

225 Yep.

That part where politicians have to practice for debates or can't answer questions is one of the things that was so refreshing with Trump.

Ask the f*cking question and he'll answer it because he knows what he believes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pro-mask study again accidentally confirms that masks are just magic talismans at December 31, 2020 04:03 PM (k1L5r
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And he knows the subject. What subject do you want to debate?
_OK.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:07 PM (CZm2G)

226 There is up to 21 days to finalize things. With every passing day more and more wake up. Those of us on sites like these don't realize how many people don't pay attention to any of this. The more time passes, the more people realize how corrupt the Establishment is. The more that do, the less chaos and panic once the truth is revealed. It's a public service by the Trump Group.

Posted by: azjaeger at December 31, 2020 04:07 PM (3/XaG)

227 Good news! Homicides in Chicago are up 55% this year. So much practice they're finally starting to hit what they aim at. My kind of town...

Posted by: dartist at December 31, 2020 04:07 PM (+ya+t)

228 If I have to give your site more information than Facebook wants from me (and that I left the site over), I politely decline. AOSHQ is quite popular because it doesn't demand a flood of information to post comments. Conversely, HotAir's failing was partly due to insisting on Facebook commenting for years. Ridiculous!

Like many here, if I want social media I tend to use Gab or SocialGalactic.

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (vsVIf)

229 Trumps "outrageousness" led to a big shift in the overton window that wouldn't have otherwise happened. Is there a way to accomplish that without being like Trump? I don't know, maybe, but I certainly haven't seen anyone in my lifetime pull it off.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 03:54 PM (UPoLF)

I'm sure I'm older than you, since I'm 29 now, and I've never seen anyone pull it off either.

Reagan comes the closest. But he had powerful friends in Hollywood, like Frank Sinatra, who in their right mind in that town would go after Reagan and get Frank's mobsters mad at you?

Reagan didn't really upset any apple carts the way Trump has done. Trump is the only politician I've ever seen who actually delivered on his campaign promises, to the extent he could push them through the swamp.
His outrageousness is the only weapon he has, and I'm guessing he stays on twatter because you don't need to have an account yourself to see what other twats are saying.

I'm not giving gab or parler or any of those outfits my actual personal information. I have a FB that I've abandoned in place, I need to go in and delete it or whatever you do to make it gone.

Posted by: Doctor President-Elect Boots at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (oGBso)

230 I think Trumpism is the radical notion that the American government should pursue the interests of the American people exclusively, rather than the interests of turds who happen to be wealthy and see themselves as citizens or rulers of planet Earth with no loyalty to any particular nation.
Posted by: Methos

I think that's just about perfect.

Posted by: lizabth at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (L3Rsz)

231 >>>222 A lot of people including me don't want to give information to another site that can decide to be your enemy next year

through a friend in contact with Bongino, i pointed this out (this is why I don't bother joining), and the fact that a Parler post can't "travel" by being embedded somewhere else.

not sure why they insist on these things. I think maybe the insist on 1 in order to be able to block and keep out trolls.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (5+1A/)

232 Yes, I too find it odd that you can't read on it unless you are registered. I'm sure they have a reason for that but I don't know what it would be.
Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (/669Q)

Kochs coopted and killed the tea party. Mercers trying to coopt and kill Gab? Easy to crush something once you have it locked inside.

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (YkawN)

233 It's Nationalist Populism. Nothing more, and nothing less.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere

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I disagree. Nationalism implies empire building, and the US is not in that game. Populism implies finding someone to blame, and the conservatives are not in that game (although the media will tell you they blame immigrants, or brown people. Whatever.)

A big part of Trumpism is about standing against "progressivism." Sure, a lot of that overlaps with nativism, and nationalism, and it may be more populist than the shit that comes out of the "elite," but that is only because they are dead wrong.

I have more to say, but lately I know that when the grey box is full pixy starts getting pissed and will cut me off.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (LWu6U)

234 Biden will be at his high point of popularity on January 20, 2021. It will become painfully obvious that he is not up to the job, perhaps in a spectacular fashion.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (BMmaB)

People are talking about Buyer's Remorse already.

Buyer's Remorse? The nation will be demanding a new election within two months, sooner if Kamala gets in.

Trump should lay low for the first few months of Biden and make people miss him.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (HrMC1)

235
But to talk actual substance, what exactly is the "trumpism" you want to see without Trump, ace? Which policies? Who is a credible (forget sincere) carrier of those torches besides him?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 03:49 PM (OTzUX)

AMEN. Come up to Reno, have drinks at the casa of the banned. I want to meet your gun maker friend up here anyway.
Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 03:59 PM (YkawN)

Double Amen, Rhomboid. Trump, in spite of his few missteps, is far and away the best president I've had in my lifetime. Including Reagan.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 31, 2020 04:09 PM (zbY+V)

236 How do you know this?
Posted by: Suky Tawdry at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (nklea)

By everything he did, and continues to do, as President. Many of his mistakes are obvious - and were said to be so, here, in real time. It's OK to connect the dots on the actions of someone that you support - yet see their obvious failures. Unless you think they're a god, because then it's a sin not to keep the faith, or so I'm told. I don't think Trump is a god - or even an Nth Dimensional Chess Player. Just a very imperfect man that tried to do an impossible task. I give him much respect for the attempt.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:09 PM (yfUzb)

237 Also, Ace... for the sake of this country... I hope you have occasion to eat your words when Trump is president for the next 4 years.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (946rW)

Bartender I'll have what this guy's drinking.

Posted by: Wut at December 31, 2020 04:10 PM (QiDfu)

238 Ace, with all due respect, there really isn't any Trumpism "without Trump."

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (HrMC1)

It's called "nationalism," and the people calling it Trumpism really do have to stop using it before they are confused with globalist douchebags.

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:10 PM (vsVIf)

239
Making up a pot of chicken and orzo soup with mushrooms, carrots and celery. I'm about ready to eat the whole thing at one sitting.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 31, 2020 04:10 PM (mht8P)

240 Yes, I too find it odd that you can't read on it unless you are registered. I'm sure they have a reason for that but I don't know what it would be.
Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (/669Q)

To boost subscriber numbers, which is all that matters to investors. They figure that a certain percentage of "lurkers" will sign up just to read content. I guess they figured that outweighed the people who just... won't read the content at all.

Same reason they want a phone number. So there won't be millions of fake bot accounts, like twitter has been struggling with since its founding.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 04:10 PM (UPoLF)

241 I don't think Trump is a god - or even an Nth Dimensional Chess Player. Just a very imperfect man that tried to do an impossible task. I give him much respect for the attempt.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:09 PM (yfUzb)
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Hear, hear.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:10 PM (/669Q)

242 Parlor is basically a less censored Twitter. It's not really comparable to Facebook.

That said, any excuse to ditch Facebook should be encouraged, and getting off the cesspool of twitter is always a good thing.

I'm on Parlor and it's definitely a place where more conservative voices have congregated to. I wouldn't mind it staying that way and letting twitter and facebook continue to be a blackhole to collect all the dregs of society.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (ZR7kf)

243 208 Yeah I don't know another guy or gal with the balls Trump has or would have fought as hard economically for American people's interest
Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:04 PM (4mEO/)

I have my doubts, too. Trump has shown it can be done. Whether anyone will do so is another matter. I do like Hawley telling McConnell to piss off. It is time for the turtle to be ousted as majority leader, or minority leader, given how bad he and the other cucks have fucked things up since the election.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (puu6v)

244
The only reason 95% of the negative news for Democrats made the Fake News (including Fox) was because President Trump brought the issues to light, forcing Fake News to respond.

You think most people will ever hear of "caravans" crossing the border again?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (o8voq)

245 through a friend in contact with Bongino, i pointed this out (this is why I don't bother joining), and the fact that a Parler post can't "travel" by being embedded somewhere else.

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If I had to come up with a good idea on how to prevent conservative views from being spread around the internet, I'd be hard pressed to devise a better system.

Even better is that the conservatives are boarding the doors and windows from the inside.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pro-mask study again accidentally confirms that masks are just magic talismans at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (k1L5r)

246 213: Shorthand, the Dems moved all-in on identity politics, betting that changing demographics and racial strife (coupled with the defensive doctrine of "intersectionalism" to keep all their factions marching in the same direction) was the future.
In response, the GOP (through Trump) reached out for the Dems' old coalition -- the working class (of all races). Trump, with a platform that is very old-school Democrat, proved that the new GOP coalition could win over the Dems' "rainbow" plantation of identity politics gulags.
Like it or not, the old-school, Romney-type, managerial GOP is dead.

Posted by: Revenant at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (//ATM)

247 >>>I'm not giving gab or parler or any of those outfits my actual personal information.
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Ace doesn't want a piece of you they do.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (CZm2G)

248 Joe Biden has asked that American's make a lot of noise tonight at midnight to show support for the coming lockdown.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (/Dgcm)

249 9mm Sellier and Bellot 124gr FMJ Ammo, 1000rd case.

$629

https://bit.ly/2X1doIg

Posted by: bonhomme at December 31, 2020 04:12 PM (i0wNm)

250 Good news! Homicides in Chicago are up 55% this year. So much practice they're finally starting to hit what they aim at.

Well, you can't really afford to miss at these prices.

Posted by: Methos at December 31, 2020 04:12 PM (kOpft)

251 248 Joe Biden has asked that American's make a lot of noise tonight at midnight to show support for the coming lockdown.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (/Dgcm)
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Put some butter on it.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:12 PM (CZm2G)

252 Same reason they want a phone number. So there won't be millions of fake bot accounts, like twitter has been struggling with since its founding.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 04:10 PM (UPoLF)
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That I understand, although I also know why people don't want to give out their phone numbers. It's a catch-22.

But just to be able to read on the site would give them much wider exposure. I'm sure there are lots of people like me who don't have a Twitter account, but will go look at things there occasionally.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (/669Q)

253 My love of Trump was purely transactional on a few key issues, immigration and trade.

I found his personality grating after a few years, but he still had my support.

I don't think conservatives did a good job holding his feet to the fire, but I blame that on the NeverTrump phenomenon making everyone circle the wagons constantly.

Posted by: Blago at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (gkdnV)

254 Future Trumpism or future Rubio-ism???

Posted by: andycanuck at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (ab0zp)

255 Buyer's remorse? Trump won the election. Bigly.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (66BnU)

256 So anyone get the stimulus check yet?

Seems some people got by their spending habits today.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (+TU1Z)

257 not sure why they insist on these things. I think maybe the insist on 1 in order to be able to block and keep out trolls.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (5+1A/)

That's the thing. Twitter is hostile to the President, but it can accessed by anyone, anywhere, without a sign in process. I've noticed you don't link Parler tweets, possibly because most of your readers wouldn't be able to read them. So why do you expect President Trump to use a product this flawed, much less endorse it?

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (vsVIf)

258 Trump has so many self-defeating, self-destructive tendencies. I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump - ace

>>>>

Yes. The fire rises.

Posted by: bane at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (vEdtZ)

259 Like many here, if I want social media I tend to use Gab or SocialGalactic.

Posted by: trev006

I remember when social media was some guy at a game of thumper yelling "social!" and everyone drinking. What's the name of the game? Thumper! How do you play? You thump! Why do we play? To get f*cked up!

Never a big drinker, but I do miss drinking games. "Thank you Mr. Smith" and "Cardinal" were my favorites.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (KAi1n)

260 I think you've got Trump all wrong, Ace.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (sGotD)

261 I was hoping Trump would move to Gab 3+ years ago. I'd think there would have been some "prestige" at completely destroying twatter in a matter of weeks. Which is exactly what a move like that would have done.

I'd think he'd groove on the fact that twatter lost more than half of its user base in a matter of weeks. Now, they've got too much power, in part due to him. And, he'd have helped the country by knee-capping the jerks. There were plenty of people asking him to do just that.

Parler is weird, it just doesn't seem as free and open as Gab. It's kind of echo-chambery. It sort of reminds me of whatever that conservative channel was that Levin started.

I'm sure Bongino is a good guy, but his ignoring Ron (@codemonkeyZ) concerns regarding potential hacks left a bad taste in my mouth as well. I'd pay attention to somebody who knows more than a couple black hats. They've got people pretending to be celebrities who aren't (like Ron), yet are "verified" users. Plus, they want your SS# and other info at that point. Seems vulnerable.

Posted by: clutch cargo with Extra Hysterical Animal Spirit at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (L8ADy)

262 Ace yes from a blog or a feature such as Parker Twitter I can see the desire to have more control over commenters and who they are . but as we've seen Twitter Facebook etc sell out to China and turn 'dissenters' in.
Or harrassment
Anyway that's why I think most social forums will not last long if they aren't willing to be controlled by big daddy for the greater good

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (4mEO/)

263 Trump committed the Unforgivable Sin. He will never escape the vengeance of the Fascist state. I am not sure he realized how badly he sinned against them.

Posted by: tubal at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (bCLt0)

264 Same reason they want a phone number. So there won't be millions of fake
bot accounts, like twitter has been struggling with since its founding.

Can't you just give them a fake number or the number of someone you don't like?

Posted by: dartist at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (+ya+t)

265 Here's the thing: I think Trump fucked up a lot of stuff. But I don't think it was for any of the reasons ace or others are laying out.

I think he truly believed he could go in to Washington and steer the ship that is the US federal government.

When those of us who are a bit more cynical were saying, "dude, that ship is fucked. You need to fire everyone you possibly can, and just spend 8 years repealing as many shitty laws and executive orders as possible." but even then, we knew he'd hardly make a dent in the problem.

Trump was much more optimistic about getting people to see things from his point of view. He figured if he hired people, they'd do the job he hired them for, and do it well. Not that they'd actively work against him for 4 years (which they did.)

But that's a strategic mistake, not a personality or policy one.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (UPoLF)

266 "109 Let's face it.
Dan Rather deserves a COVID "Fake But Accurate" pacebo vaccine.
Posted by: SMOD at December 31, 2020 03:50 PM (3aI0K)"

Dan Rather deserves to be lying face down in the ditch my old man ordered his gunner to drop Rather's camera equipment in just east of the Cambodian border in early May of 1970.

Posted by: fringe at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (FPur3)

267 it's also disruptive to promote a challenger to the Ruling Class' messenger app of choice

Parler will get it's shot once Twitter effectively bans President Trump. Which they have all but stated they will.

Twitter knows Trump's approach brings attention of one for or another and that's good for business.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (FDiG/)

268 260 I think you've got Trump all wrong, Ace.
Agreed.

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (AHq56)

269 Trump was just a speed bump. A Mule to the Foundation. Temporary inconvenience.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (63Dwl)

270 I disagree. Nationalism implies empire building, and the US is not in that game.

So you can't be "Nationalist" and pursue a policy of protecting your own people first - by staying out of "entangling alignments" or a policy of mostly minding one's own national business ?

Well - congrats. Because that is PRECISELY the driving force for why folks like Obama and Bush want so badly to reduce the US from super-power status to citizens of the world. Because they, too, believe that nations that behave in their own best interests will immediately start down the road to empire.

And you don't believe we're currently trying to hold onto an empire ? OK.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (yfUzb)

271 >>>That's the thing. Twitter is hostile to the President, but it can accessed by anyone, anywhere, without a sign in process. I've noticed you don't link Parler tweets, possibly because most of your readers wouldn't be able to read them. So why do you expect President Trump to use a product this flawed, much less endorse it?

why do I expect trump to defend a flawed product which doesn't mean me harm over a more slick product designed to harm me?

what the fuck

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (5+1A/)

272 It's called "nationalism," and the people calling it Trumpism really do have to stop using it before they are confused with globalist douchebags.
Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:10 PM (vsVIf)

Yep. Globalists already are talking about replacing the dollar as the reserve currency, and are well on their way. This is an actual "us" vs. "them" situation, and marginal tax rates don't ping on the actual radar as an important thing. Trump got it, and more importantly, had the balls to carry through. It's the last part where I have questions about anyone stepping into his shoes.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (puu6v)

273 So perhaps they're also lying.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (FDiG/)

274 Ace, with all due respect, there really isn't any Trumpism "without Trump."

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:00 PM (HrMC1)

It's called "nationalism," and the people calling it Trumpism really do have to stop using it before they are confused with globalist douchebags.
Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:10 PM
(vsVIf)

I agree and I used "Trumpism" only because ace did, but my point is whatever it was that Trump stood for--call it what you will--it wouldn't exist without Trump.
For now at least.

But when Biden and Co. really fuck things up--and they will and soon--the first politician to ape Trump's positions--and be sincere about it--will have the inside track on 2024

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (HrMC1)

275 Trump is the second coming of George Washington.

GW inspired loyalty because he was real. His men loved him and he knew that that made him responsible to live up to what they believed he was.

I always wondered if the Washington story was embellished, but in seeing Trump I can understand it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (LWu6U)

276 Trump has so many self-defeating, self-destructive tendencies. I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump.

I know that Josh Hawley has no childlike respect for Twitter's "prestige," and I'm pretty sure Ron DeSantis doesn't, either.

Posted by: Ace at 03:34 PM

Even as people attempt to overturn this election, I'm resigned to the fact that the next step is NOT to hold onto Trump, but to look toward more boring people to take up the cause.

Smoot Hawley might be a good place to start. "Lyin" Ted Cruz too.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (oQ94s)

277 Fireworks tonight?

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (/lJxa)

278 Joe Biden has asked that American's make a lot of noise tonight at midnight to show support for the coming lockdown.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (/Dgcm)

++++
Headlines tomorrow: Americans made a lot of noise last night at midnight due to Biden's encouraging words.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (66BnU)

279 Can't you just give them a fake number or the number of someone you don't like?
Posted by: dartist at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (+ya+t)

I don't know. Usually places that want a phone # text you a confirmation code, and you need to use that code to activate your account.

I'm sure you could set up a VOIP phone number and do it that way if you don't want to give your primary phone number.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (UPoLF)

280 If I had to come up with a good idea on how to prevent conservative views from being spread around the internet, I'd be hard pressed to devise a better system.

Even better is that the conservatives are boarding the doors and windows from the inside.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pro-mask study again accidentally confirms that masks are just magic talismans at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (k1L5r)

Getting in the boxcars voluntarily. Brilliant!

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (YkawN)

281 Eh, it look like we're entering the cannibalism of Trump phase now.

I find this the major negative trait of conservatives.

On the upside, we're celebrating my Mexican Heritage tonight by having suki de yaki for dinner.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (5Tc06)

282 Trump should lay low for the first few months of Biden and make people miss him.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:08 PM (HrMC1)

You can't honestly believe the communist domestic and international scum who stole this election have any interest in letting the Trump family "lay low".

Posted by: Doctor President-Elect Boots at December 31, 2020 04:16 PM (oGBso)

283
You people speak as if you have hope in future elections.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:16 PM (o8voq)

284 The Overton Window has shifted Left under Trump due to the massive backlash from his 2016 victory. You are less free to speak your mind now. The average American college and corporation has stricter speech codes -- all in the name of Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity.

In 2015-2016, right-wingers could say "fuck BLM" all the time. And many did. Today that would get you fired from being a delivery driver for Amazon. Any major American company would fire you for that and put out a press release reaffirming their Zero Tolerance policy for Hate and White Supremacy.

The only hope is to have a job at a small business where the owner doesn't care and is somehow immune to Twitter mob pressure tactics. But thanks to COVID all the small business are dead now and the only jobs left are at MegaCorps like Amazon.

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 04:16 PM (eaAeu)

285 9mm Sellier and Bellot 124gr FMJ Ammo, 1000rd case.

$629

https://bit.ly/2X1doIg
Posted by: bonhomme at December 31, 2020 04:12 PM (i0wNm)

Rub it in.

Posted by: clutch cargo with Extra Hysterical Animal Spirit at December 31, 2020 04:16 PM (L8ADy)

286 > And also - how much people refuse to see either of them as they are, but rather as they were.

I think I've mentioned before an elderly relative of mine who votes D every election, despite being strongly opposed to a) abortion, b) illegal aliens, c) gun control, d) gay marriage, and e) high taxes.

Why? Because his Daddy always voted D, and the Ds are "for the little guy".

Yeah, dude. "Little guys" like the Kennedys, and the Heinz-Kerrys, and Bill Gates, and Warren Buffett, and Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 31, 2020 04:16 PM (dkMgb)

287 Imagine if you will,

Joey Bidet with a sparkler.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 31, 2020 04:16 PM (+TU1Z)

288 132. I agree with Harry P. Ace was and in many ways still is a never Trumper. He is honest enough to acknowledge when Trump accomplished things Ace agrees with but for the entire Trump era his posts always had an undercurrent of Trump is in this for his brand. Whatever. The blog has been a pretty honest assessment of Trumps presidency even when I did not agree with Aces personal disapproval of Trumps style or approach.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (9Z1bC)

289
Joe Biden has asked that American's make a lot of noise tonight at midnight to show support for the coming lockdown.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 31, 2020 04:11 PM (/Dgcm)

Let's give a cheer for more misery!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (UnQ9z)

290 I knew ace always hated trump and just pretended to not be nevertrump so as not to lose 99% of his traffic (1% being the trolls.)

funny how he takes exactly the same road cuntface ann coulter takes (trumpism without trump).

Posted by: National Divorce Time at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (MC2q1)

291 I hadn't seen it before.

But pretending that Biden won is a great excuse to not feel the need to show up in DC and great opportunity to shit on Trump.

" Woe woe is me . I would have gone to SC but this time I choose to believe muh MSM that I have accused of lying for years. Dammit Trump why didn't you kiss their ass more?"

Pretty slick, really.

Posted by: deplorable unperson-maskless and mobile at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (sczoJ)

292 You girls shootin guns, shootin off of fireworks or just other ruckus tonight?

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (/lJxa)

293 I use Parler but tech-wise it kinda sucks. I know they can't just make a copy of Twitter but they should be able to speed it up and make it more user friendly. About 20 percent of the time it doesn't even load properly on a PC. As for Trump, maybe he doesn't even know about it, his advisors ain't all that.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (qH6FZ)

294 Trump has so many self-defeating, self-destructive tendencies. I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump.

I know that Josh Hawley has no childlike respect for Twitter's "prestige," and I'm pretty sure Ron DeSantis doesn't, either.

Posted by: Ace at 03:34 PM

I don't see Trump in any way shape or form, "self-destructive."

Yes, he could dial it back a little bit, but he's smart enough to know that won't earn him any brownie points with those out to destroy him.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (HrMC1)

295 260 I think you've got Trump all wrong, Ace.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (sGotD)
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It's those cocktail parties.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (CZm2G)

296 And you don't believe we're currently trying to hold onto an empire ? OK.
Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (yfUzb)

They are trying BAMN, including an increasingly fast genocide of the primates they loathe. Putting a stake through the empire and imperialists is the whole point of nationalism.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (puu6v)

297
Can't you just give them a fake number or the number of someone you don't like?
Posted by: dartist

Don't they call you will a confirmation number or something like a bank confirming a web login?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (63Dwl)

298 Hawley, De Santis and Noem are smart enough to emulate Trump's approach.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (HrMC1)

299 Cocktail really is a vulgar word, isn't it?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (CZm2G)

300 We all are God believers, we all agree on that?

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (/lJxa)

301 My "WTF is 'Trumpism'" was not a shot at Trump, or at ace, or a suggestion there isn't such a thing (though I think 99.8% of all words/concepts with ending in "ism" are b.s., usually a lazy and incorrect generalization substituting for boring but meaningful detail).

Yes of course - borders, trade, "populist" (heh! there I go ...) defense of the "forgotten" people against larger forces.

All of it actually sincerely believed, all of it delivered straight, no ice or water, no circumlocution.

I still recall laughing - from a mixture of joy and disbelief, and mischievous enjoyment of the extraordinary - at Trump's inauguration speech. The most interesting and important inauguration speech in generations.

But Trump SEIZED the nomination, as a true outsider, with these issues - immigration lawlessness, trade disaster, corporatist domination of US governance. An amazing thing we're already habituated to. And now, he's close to being ejected by the "system" he seized control of. It's not just the unique package of political talent and sincere substantive merit. It's the odds against another black swan any time soon.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (OTzUX)

302 Republicans should systematically boost allied media and allied tech. But they don't. They systematically boost enemy media and enemy tech. And then they whine that they're not being treated fairly by the giant Media and Tech companies whose leadership openly hates them.

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (eaAeu)

303 >>>Making up a pot of chicken and orzo soup with
mushrooms, carrots and celery. I'm about ready to eat the whole thing at
one sitting.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh<<<
'Tis the season for soups and stews.

I'm not sure whether to go with the turkey noodle soup, the split pea with ham soup, the 15 bean soup with sausage, or the venison stew. Happy New Year!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (WOYcU)

304 Eh, it look like we're entering the cannibalism of Trump phase now.

--

I will never enter that phase. Trump, blind spots and all, warts and all, is the best thing to happen to this country since Reagan. Not gonna pick the guy's coat apart.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (O+I8R)

305 And you don't believe we're currently trying to hold onto an empire ? OK.
Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere

We are trying to hold on to a liberal, Westphalian, system. Not an empire.

An empire means we control the rest of the world. That was what I was trying to say. If you want to see what empire looks like, look at what China wants.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (LWu6U)

306 Even as people attempt to overturn this election, I'm resigned to the fact that the next step is NOT to hold onto Trump, but to look toward more boring people to take up the cause.

Smoot Hawley might be a good place to start. "Lyin" Ted Cruz too.
Posted by: BurtTC

_______________

I think we need to turn the page, I really hope Trump doesn't try and become a GOP Adlai Stevenson. Or pass it on to his kids, etc.

Trump would be better suited running something like a Newsmax that could take on Fox.

Posted by: Blago at December 31, 2020 04:19 PM (gkdnV)

307 I dislike the "Trumpism without Trump" talk because I think that too many establishment types are looking to try and use that to worm their way back into power. They're going to push the notion that Jeb! or Rubio or Romney can sell Trumpism. They can't.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:19 PM (jOcSX)

308
Twitter is obviously censoring pro-Trump, pro-America, pro-conservative comments. It's just wall to wall clearing out of anything that doesn't fit the Party Line.

Trump's comments are 100% ridicule, while obvious low IQ sold-out traitors get 100% fawning adulation. It's like 100,000 votes suddenly appearing at 3 am and they're 99.5% for Biden. You can just tell.

Every leader that's helped us has their limitations. Reagan flinched and accepted mass amnesty of illegals in return for a guarantee of a securing of the border that never happened.

Parler may have its own shortcomings. Nothing is perfect.

Trump did pretty well with the entire Establishment out to get him. More than anything, he exposed them and showed the problems we have as a nation can be fixed if there is a will to fix them, instead of an intention to make everything worse. That awareness is not going away.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 31, 2020 04:19 PM (0i78j)

309 Melania is no Hilaria.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (9IdCK)

310 133 Yep, I gave them my phone # and sorry I did. Never again. I'm sure Bongino is a good guy, but who's to say he wouldn't sell to a louse for the right price. Gab does NOT want ph #, or at least didn't 5 years ago. Twatter now asks for ph#, I can't unblock my account or open a new one without one.

And Rumbl? They give the impression you can "register" with just email, but I found out that you need to "finish" registration after clicking the confirmation link - they want your phone#. Fuck that shit.

Step 1: Create a new email account w/ Google or Microsoft. Depending on which day it is, one or the other will let you do it w/o a phone number

Step 2: Create new Twitter account. Make sure you deleted all your Twitter site data from the browser, first

No phone number needed

Posted by: Greg Q at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (bZ64u)

311 So anyone get the stimulus check yet?

Seems some people got by their spending habits today.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 31, 2020 04:13 PM (+TU1Z)

I am apparently getting nuttin and will be forced to like it. Even though I have been unemployed for several months, my salary for 2019 was several hundred dollars too high for the gobnint to give me back 600 of my dollars while still making me pay over $2700 for politicians and NGOs in Burma (not even a country anymore, BTW), Pakistan and other foreighn environs to make their citizens more miserable.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (946rW)

312 Trump also hired a bunch of Goldman Sachs peeps because GS is prestigious. Never mind that GS was the top donor to Obama in 2008.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (x3Y6G)

313 Judge Stacey Abrams Sister has reversed in part her own previous ruling against following election roll laws. This confusing situation is starting to look like a Russian nesting doll of incompetent judicial activism.

https://tinyurl.com/ycrnhgne

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (fIGh5)

314 Nope, this is the quest for who loves God the most. I love him more than you.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (/lJxa)

315 Can't you just give them a fake number or the number of someone you don't like?

No you have to give your cell number because they then text you back with a code to proceed to login.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (nxdel)

316 Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (O+I8R)

I agree.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (VP4Cd)

317 Hawley, De Santis and Noem are smart enough to emulate Trump's approach.
Posted by: JoeF.

________________

And hopefully not step on their own dicks half the time.

Trump's big victory was he exposed the media, but he he would always then fumble the ball.

Posted by: Blago at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (gkdnV)

318 151 Wait until Lin Wood shows up on Parler and lets everyone know Epstein is alive.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 03:57 PM (FDiG/)

---

Oh, he's there, and he "parlays" just that.

Posted by: SMH at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (RU4sa)

319 There is no after Trump.
Only the machine.

Posted by: DaveA at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (FhXTo)

320 I will say that "Black Lives Matter" is simply a perfectly-engineered slogan. Sure it's a radical commie front group that does nothing for black people's lives, but it's so perfect that anyone who goes against them is accused of not believing that black lives matter.....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (HrMC1)

321 "So what the fuck is going on with this "new strain?" I hear two
conflicting stories: that they have identified it genetically or that it
is really based on bad data.

Which is true? It's frustrating because I avoid all covid news unless it pops up on this site so I am totally in the dark.
Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2020 03:38 PM (q177U)"
It's a thing but nobody knows what the deal is with it yet, or knows when we'll know. Most of the freakout related to it is that nobody yet has a convincing explanation of how it could occur naturally.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (EEVQU)

322 Can't you just give them a fake number or the number of someone you don't like?

No you have to give your cell number because they then text you back with a code to proceed to login.
Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON!

___________

This is why I refused to join.

I was afraid it could be a honeypot operation.

Posted by: Blago at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (gkdnV)

323 You people speak as if you have hope in future elections.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:16 PM (o8voq)

-------

Not exactly, not for me, anyway. The age of meaningful elections passed awhile ago.

What I do have hope for is a future political movement. It may (or may not) employ electioneering for PR purposes. But the heart and soul of it will have to be in the streets, not the voting booths.

Actions, not words.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (Zm/Ey)

324 I dislike the "Trumpism without Trump" talk because I
think that too many establishment types are looking to try and use that
to worm their way back into power. They're going to push the notion
that Jeb! or Rubio or Romney can sell Trumpism. They can't.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:19 PM (jOcSX)

They are and fuck them sideways with a pineapple for it. They are as much to blame as the Dems

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (946rW)

325 You have to give them a real phone number cause they send you a code via text you have to enter to verify it's a real phone number. There used to be a lot of services where you could get fake temporary numbers for free but they've been steadily blocked to prevent that.

The giant Social Media companies are slowly embracing Know Your Customer rules. The System wants to know exactly who you are so, in case you commit a Thought Crime, they know who to let the mob ruin.

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (eaAeu)

326
Our Plan is, what, to forget the stolen election and hope for a new, better Republican candidate to emerge and win in '24?

Good plan.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (o8voq)

327 why do I expect trump to defend a flawed product which doesn't mean me harm over a more slick product designed to harm me?

what the fuck

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:15 PM (5+1A/)

Trump is endorsing Twitter? Good one. Like I said, Twitter has basic accessibility, even with shadow bans and various fuckery. Parler can't actually be read unless you're signed in with your actual phone number. Trump has actual reach on Twitter- even on Gab, where he also has an account. Parler's just a very limited echo chamber with some pretty sketchy practices.

And that's before you see NYT and CNN promoting Parler as the edgy IDW alternative to Twitter. They could not possibly be more sus.

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (vsVIf)

328 Even as people attempt to overturn this election, I'm resigned to the fact that the next step is NOT to hold onto Trump, but to look toward more boring people to take up the cause.

Smoot Hawley might be a good place to start. "Lyin" Ted Cruz too.
Posted by: BurtTC

No. Boring means too cautious, too eager to please the upper middle class bureaucrats and corporate mid-level managers. It means guys who are too submissive to their lefty wives. It also isn't going to fire up a crowd and get them to turn out.

Trump's skill wasn't simply picking the correct policies, it was selling those policies to a large portion of the country. He made people believe that he wanted better things for the USA and for them. He made it fun to be on team MAGA, to be in-your-face and proud of being an American and a Trump supporter.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (jOcSX)

329 Note that classical physics survived the death of Newton, and the U.S. Constitution survived the death of the Founders, and Christianity survived the death of Christ.

The question isn't "where will we find another Trump, or Newton, or Madison/Jay/Hamilton, or Jesus"? Obviously such men are quite rare.
That doesn't mean their legacy disappears the moment they're gone. Far from it.

Sometimes just being shown the way is enough.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (dkMgb)

330 >>> 16 telephone pole sized tungsten rods from low Earth orbit at 7 times the speed o' sound to tangos on Earth with the kinetic energy of nuclear weapons but without the fallout.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (GrWar)

Based on a forty foot pole at constant fifteen foot diameter for tungsten density of 19.25 grams per centimenter cubed I get a total mass in kg of 7611.

Speed of sound at sea level is 340.3 meters per second and times seven is 2382 meters per second
kinetic energy in joules is half mass times vel squared = 21593989561 joules nuclear yield is often given in terajoules so: .02 TJ
The smallest yield nuclear bomb was .08 TJ
Fatman was 60ish TJ

Of the order of a very tiny nuclear yield. quarter of the smallest official one.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (l6b3d)

331 Putting a stake through the empire and imperialists is the whole point of nationalism.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 04:17 PM (puu6v)

For whatever reason - "Nationalism" triggers some. And I get the other part - there are a BIG BUNCH of people, mostly Republican - that simply can't bear the idea of the US no longer being a super power. I suspect those people also get really excited watching football on TV. But I digress.

Somebody explain to me - if you want me to get that IronGrampa thrill down my fvcking leg about the flag and anthem and such - why I should do so unless I can be honestly Nationalist - and believe that those in charge view my personal best interests as more worthy than the self interests of any citizen in any other nation ?

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:23 PM (yfUzb)

332 286

You have described my in laws. They own guns, drive big gas guzzling trucks as they tow a monster 5th wheel behind them, are totally against woke bullshit and not too thrilled with illegal immigration.

Yet they vote D every time because the GOP is the party of the rich and wants to destroy the working man.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:23 PM (x3Y6G)

333 Not gonna pick the guy's coat apart.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (O+I8R)

Ace is just reverting to his nevertrump ways.

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:23 PM (mEuEj)

334 I had that nicely formatted and easy to read but could not ever get pixy to believe it wasn't spam so making it look crappy and hard to read got it through.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 31, 2020 04:23 PM (l6b3d)

335 Comon, we all know I LOVE GOD. JUST SAY IT.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:24 PM (/lJxa)

336
Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (/lJxa)

Get rid of this thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:24 PM (o8voq)

337 240 To boost subscriber numbers, which is all that matters to investors. They figure that a certain percentage of "lurkers" will sign up just to read content. I guess they figured that outweighed the people who just... won't read the content at all.

Same reason they want a phone number. So there won't be millions of fake bot accounts, like twitter has been struggling with since its founding.

Sorry, that makes no sense. If they want "more subscribers", then there's no reason to exclude bots.

It's a moronic setup. And I'm not going to give them the ability to dox me.

They (the people running Parler) want "control". They can FOAD

Posted by: Greg Q at December 31, 2020 04:24 PM (bZ64u)

338 Like many here, if I want social media I tend to use Gab or SocialGalactic.

Posted by: trev006

This. Parler censors the Right and "white nationalists", allows pornbots and porn, is not open sourced, collects your information and data
Also, they hate the Right, anons researching Q drops, pro men and pro white groups more than they do the Left.
Just another containment, gatekeeping, and money operation by ConInc.

Posted by: bane at December 31, 2020 04:24 PM (vEdtZ)

339 I will say that "Black Lives Matter" is simply a perfectly-engineered slogan. Sure it's a radical commie front group that does nothing for black people's lives, but it's so perfect that anyone who goes against them is accused of not believing that black lives matter.....

--

Their modus operandi: institute pure Marxism, pure Communism (take your pick) and cloak it with the name "Don't Shoot Fluffy Puppies." Then dare anyone to be against the org. People are dumb, so it works.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:24 PM (O+I8R)

340 We're going to welcome 2,000 new refugees per week.

Posted by: Biden at December 31, 2020 04:24 PM (QiDfu)

341 I dislike the "Trumpism without Trump" talk because I think that too many establishment types are looking to try and use that to worm their way back into power. They're going to push the notion that Jeb! or Rubio or Romney can sell Trumpism. They can't.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:19 PM (jOcSX)

If any of those three try to sell Trumpism, they will be laughed at.
But the treasonous fat fuck Christie is going to try that approach--and might get some traction.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (HrMC1)

342 Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (O+I8R)
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I agree.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (VP4Cd)
~~~~~

#Me too.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (sGotD)

343 I don't give a crap about any of these apps. I don't want to be on any of them. America's obsession with credentialism has been shown to be pretty dumb. But I don't need to hear from Joe Sixpack on every issue under the sun either.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (H5knJ)

344 62
There is no Trumpism without Trump.

Posted by: DAK at December 31, 2020 03:44 PM (PtOP4)

If you had #62, collect your winnings at the door.

Posted by: ... at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (Qfu/F)

345 Parler still makes me a victim of attempting to sign up earlier. I can not sign up now no matter what.

I don't know how well Facebook pages have been doing for Levin etc anyway. It just seems like a bad platform for that type of engagement.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (ZfRYq)

346 Yet they vote D every time because the GOP is the party of the rich and wants to destroy the working man.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:23 PM (x3Y6G)

This is why I support Trump starting a new party: there are simply a lot of people who will never vote GOP because there's too much historical baggage. Between that and the fact that the entire party structure is rotten, it's simply easier to burn it all to the ground and build anew.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (jOcSX)

347 319 There is no after Trump.
Only the machine.
Posted by: DaveA at December 31, 2020 04:21 PM (FhXTo)
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The machine and Irish Democracy.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (CZm2G)

348 I have grudgingly come to accept the illegitimate harris presidency, yet I still hope Pence isn't so corporate gop that he can't try to set the fraudulent election on fire once more for old times sake.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (r+sAi)

349 Trump as a private citizen will be brutally hounded by the Left, as an object lesson about getting to uppity. I propose that the frameups we saw while he was in office will not hold a candle to what the frameups as a private citizen will be. For doing the right thing, he will be persecuted.

Posted by: tubal at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (bCLt0)

350

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM

+++++
Really profound. And I am not being facetious.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (66BnU)

351 "...Christianity survived the death of Christ."

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Christianity came to be because He survived death.

Posted by: SMH at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (RU4sa)

352 Their modus operandi: institute pure Marxism, pure Communism (take your pick) and cloak it with the name "Don't Shoot Fluffy Puppies." Then dare anyone to be against the org. People are dumb, so it works.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:24 PM (O+I8R)

Sure, the people are dumb--but that's not the problem.
They were able to co-opt Corporations into doing their bidding.
That 's the game changer.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (HrMC1)

353 Their whole unspoken marketing is, "ooo some semistar might retweet you for being clever!". Meanwhile it only serves as a magnifier in more extreme far left thought. Twitter attempted to replace the marketplace of ideas when it came to debating but its always been pure cancer. Fuck twitter, burn it down, piss on the ashes. That cock sucker Jack should be banished from polite society for his part.

Posted by: Drew in MO at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (cGlgB)

354 Trump has been many things over the last 4 years. IMO only two things will he be remembered for; Twitter and being impeached.

Everything else will be memory holed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (3H9h1)

355
Smoot Hawley might be a good place to start. "Lyin" Ted Cruz too.

Posted by: BurtTC

It is disconcerting that you think elections still matter if this steal stands. It is even more disconcerting that you think any politician who values natural rights will even win again if the Dems do this and get away with it.

The only way the republic gets restored if Biden takes office is with a good and proper watering of the Tree of Liberty. Voting and politics ain't gonna do it.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (946rW)

356 I will never enter that phase. Trump, blind spots and all, warts and all, is the best thing to happen to this country since Reagan. Not gonna pick the guy's coat apart.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (O+I8R)

Totally agree with this!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (pcsoT)

357 Looking at Guy Mohawk's nic makes me realize I haven't seen Guy Smiley here for a while. Has he been around?

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (/669Q)

358 The key, I think, to Trumpism, is putting America First.

That sends to set people off on a tizzy. Fucking Mattis cannot abide it.

People who don't want America First, I ask, what country should be, then? There is no answer. If you are to be President of the United States, you should always be US first.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (ZfRYq)

359 Had Twitter not existed Trump would not have won in 2016.

Had Twitter not existed Trump would not have lost in 2020.

It is quite a paradox.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (x3Y6G)

360 So, Trump is going to jail and after all the courts decide he is guilty you will all fight for his justice?

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (/lJxa)

361 "...Christianity survived the death of Christ."

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Christianity came to be because He survived death.

Posted by: SMH at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (RU4sa)

Christianity took off after his death/Resurrection.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (HrMC1)

362 I have grudgingly come to accept the illegitimate
harris presidency, yet I still hope Pence isn't so corporate gop that he
can't try to set the fraudulent election on fire once more for old
times sake.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (r+sAi)

Why do you accept a fraud?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (946rW)

363 Any app on the Google and Apple app stores has to conform to their absurd and ever changing rules about "Hate Speech".

Maybe this week they allow you to still make "tranny" jokes. Maybe next week they don't.

If you have an app in their ecosystem then you will comply with their demands or be removed.

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (eaAeu)

364 Of the order of a very tiny nuclear yield. quarter of the smallest official one.
Posted by: banana Dream

Thanks for doing the math. I realized it was hyperbole since if it had that much energy coming down, as much as a nuclear bomb, then it would require that much energy to get up there in the first place.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (LWu6U)

365 354 Trump has been many things over the last 4 years. IMO only two things will he be remembered for; Twitter and being impeached.

Everything else will be memory holed.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (3H9h1)

Impeachment is already forgotten.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (ZfRYq)

366 Kamala asked Twitter to ban Trump before the election and while he was POTUS ... once he's gone Twitter will comply.
Trump will have no other choice but to move to Parler.
Also, wish Parler was set up more like Twitter so you could view posts without having to join and if you want to comment then you'd have to join

Posted by: redridinghood at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (NpAcC)

367
Had Twitter not existed Trump would not have lost in 2020.

It is quite a paradox.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (x3Y6G)

He didn't lose.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (946rW)

368 You take the bad with the good with Trump. His instincts somehow got states and populations that hadn't voted for a Republican in 50 years on his side. I love DeSantis, but He can't repeat all of Trump's strengths.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (ftFVW)

369 Trump did not lose.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (66BnU)

370 The only way the republic gets restored if Biden takes office is with a good and proper watering of the Tree of Liberty. Voting and politics ain't gonna do it.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (946rW)

Amen. But practically how does this happen? I've been thinking about this and I don't know. Serious question.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (pcsoT)

371 This is why I support Trump starting a new party: there are simply a lot of people who will never vote GOP because there's too much historical baggage. Between that and the fact that the entire party structure is rotten, it's simply easier to burn it all to the ground and build anew.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (jOcSX)

You'll need a determined base to begin with. The PanAmerican (or whatever it's called) Party will win absolutely nothing for a fairly long time and the leadership will be targeted by everyone-- Loss of bank accounts, jobs, 'investigations' by every LEO under the Sun.

Posted by: Vanya at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (S6ArX)

372 This. Parler censors the Right and "white nationalists", allows pornbots and porn, is not open sourced, collects your information and data
Also, they hate the Right, anons researching Q drops, pro men and pro white groups more than they do the Left.
Just another containment, gatekeeping, and money operation by ConInc.

Posted by: bane at December 31, 2020 04:24 PM (vEdtZ)

Yup. You pretty much have to support the Unauthorized ecosystem to get on SocialGalactic, but if you do it's WAY less suspect than Parler. Parler is completely broken as a Twitter alternative for the reasons I already stated, but that's not why it exists. Its purpose is to collect your information and sell it to "right wing" sites like Salem Media. Or even worse people.

Don't do it.

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (vsVIf)

373 >> orbital velocity is mach 23
how are you gonna slow them down to mach 7?
and why?
Posted by: BYZANTINE gENERAL at December 31, 2020 04:26 PM (B1JrQ)

And KE increases exponentially with vel. But at some point you'll just have a liquid plasma mix which will create some nice fireworks in the sky but won't deliver to ground.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (l6b3d)

374 The worst thing you can say about Trump is he participated in the Spend Spend Spend Spend Machine. The WORST thing. And it's not great.

But that said - Trump never screwed us. He never dicked his voters over, and he had the most incentive AND opportunity to do so.

So focus on whatever warts you want to, this is by far the most important characteristic of Trump - and I'm not sure there exists another human (let alone one within light years of our "political class") as capable as Trump who has that in him.

Posted by: ... at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (Qfu/F)

375 Up in the Ozark mountains on my farm. 29 degrees. Roaring fire. Rebel Yell bourbon in me craw. I could do worse. Rain falling will turn to sleet shortly. Then snow. I feel for my city bound brethren.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (3XqsM)

376 Why do you accept a fraud?

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That's where I am, and will remain. I do not accept it. I can't do anything about it, but I do not accept it. I will not call Biden/Harris anything other than illegitimately installed frauds. Because that's what they are.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (O+I8R)

377 > So anyone get the stimulus check yet?

Yeah, mine was in my account this morning.

Looking for cheap ammo.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (dkMgb)

378 I will never enter that phase. Trump, blind spots and all, warts and
all, is the best thing to happen to this country since Reagan. Not gonna
pick the guy's coat apart.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:18 PM (O+I8R)

I don't mind a realistic AAR about how his time went - he made mistakes. A ton. And that's OK. Still the best president in my lifetime - and the ONLY one I gladly voted for twice.

It's a little scary for some, isn't it ? A frank, blunt conversation about where we're headed. I get it. Not criticizing in the slightest. I'm looking at some of my preps - and I've done so for a decade - and I'm unprepared. I never saw some of this coming.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (yfUzb)

379 354: Disagree. Trump has reached a certain level of love among his base to keep his name alive for decades to come, perhaps even expanded over time via folklore. His isn't a footnote presidency.

Posted by: Revenant at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (//ATM)

380 I struggle to find much of importance that was negative and which involved any "self-defeating" Trump actions or personality traits.

Fiscal insanity. I think Trump genuinely doesn't agree, doesn't think fiscal policy is dangerous or can't be mitigated by growth (though he did go through the kabuki of fiscally more sane budget submissions).

I said from the outset that he had no choice but to undertake the daunting task of going to war with the GOP on the key issues that made him president. He didn't. Tactical call. But all the failures that stem from that (which are important) are GOP voters' fault, not Trump's.

But waiting to see a specific area of importance where failure/incomplete success had anything to do with any self-defeating tendencies. This was literally one guy, and a handful of advisers, against the universe.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (OTzUX)

381 So you all think the Trump is gonna nuke something, so as to divert attention to his nefarious deeds? Big words indeed.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (/lJxa)

382 Probably someone already noted, but Trump wasn't the cause, he was the initial response. It just grows bigger from here. He, at least, responded on their terms, next guy will give them a Tucker-like "fuck you" at best.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (C4niK)

383 >>> 364 Of the order of a very tiny nuclear yield. quarter of the smallest official one.
Posted by: banana Dream

Thanks for doing the math. I realized it was hyperbole since if it had that much energy coming down, as much as a nuclear bomb, then it would require that much energy to get up there in the first place.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (LWu6U)

You wouldn't want to get hit on the head with a 1/4 yield nuclear bomb.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 31, 2020 04:31 PM (l6b3d)

384 Anyway, Go Army! Gotta entertain some troops lol.

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 04:31 PM (YkawN)

385 Yet they vote D every time because the GOP is the party of the rich and wants to destroy the working man.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:23 PM (x3Y6G)

And assholes like McConnell reinforce that by blocking $2000 payouts to citizens.

And look, a conservative argument can be made against "direct payments' to people, but not when were sending billons to asshole countries for stupid shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:31 PM (HrMC1)

386
Why do you accept a fraud?
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (946rW)

Exactly, redbanzai.

I will never accept this.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2020 04:31 PM (TdMsT)

387 He didn't lose.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM (946rW)

Yup. And the left should be terrified, because even a wholesale campaign to silence the fraud discussion by Reddit, Google, and Facebook has only driven the explosive growth of nationalism and QAnon. Trump isn't going quietly, and 2021 is gonna be lit.

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:31 PM (vsVIf)

388
The Left is laughing at us. They're saying look at these idiots, we break all the rules and steal elections and they still trust the system and the rule of law.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:31 PM (o8voq)

389 I'm looking at some of my preps - and I've done so for a decade - and I'm unprepared. I never saw some of this coming.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere

*fistbump
Two decades.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (LwB8i)

390 The key, I think, to Trumpism, is putting America First. That sends to set people off on a tizzy. Fucking Mattis cannot abide it.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (ZfRYq)

It sets off people here. The word is Nationalism. It freaks certain people right the fvck out.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (yfUzb)

391 Probably someone already noted, but Trump wasn't the cause, he was the initial response. It just grows bigger from here. He, at least, responded on their terms, next guy will give them a Tucker-like "fuck you" at best.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (C4niK)

TEA Party -> Trump

I'm a bit nervous about what comes next.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (HBEnm)

392 To be honest it's not just Trump that refuses to give up Twitter, besides Devin Nunes, Dan Bongino and Dinesh just about every conservative pro-Trump politician and pundit refuses to abandon Twitter for Parler.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (qH6FZ)

393 Big words indeed.
Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM (/lJxa)

Your mom likes big things when she's giving bjs in truckstop restrooms.

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (mEuEj)

394 I don't care about style. I want someone who fights for me, and my interests as an American. That guy is Trump. It sure as hell isn't any other politician, GOP or otherwise.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (MVjcR)

395 Bannon's morning show today was very good.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (CZm2G)

396 Trump did not lose.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (66BnU)

WE did

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (HrMC1)

397 I will never accept this.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2020 04:31 PM (TdMsT)

Nor will I

Posted by: It's me donna at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (Zmnko)

398 Trump would do exponentially more good by putting his money to use like Soros instead of trying to lead the GOP over the next few years. What the right needs is the organization the left has. We need the ability to call for 1000 protestors to show up somewhere with 24 hour notice, with professionally printed signs ready to go. We also need Acorn type organizations at the local level to elect DAs, Sec of State, etc. Trump and his family can do that if they are willing to fund it.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (x3Y6G)

399 I don't care about style. I want someone who fights for me, and my interests as an American. That guy is Trump. It sure as hell isn't any other politician, GOP or otherwise.
Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (MVjcR)
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*fistbump*

Happy new year, Weasel!

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (/669Q)

400 The fiscal train had, and has, no brakes. The Dems will fight any attempt to cut social spending and entitlements and the Pubbies will scream against cutting military spending or offshoring jobs. The only question now is when the wheels come off, not if.

Posted by: Vanya at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (S6ArX)

401 And assholes like McConnell reinforce that by blocking $2000 payouts to citizens.

And look, a conservative argument can be made against "direct payments' to people, but not when were sending billons to asshole countries for stupid shit.

--

McConnell has whizzed on that $2k payout to actual Americans, but he didn't whizz on what will be over that for most illegals.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (O+I8R)

402 Trump never lies.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (/lJxa)

403 Twitter was useful to the Right in 2015-2016 cause you could fight with the Left and get in their face -- especially with Shitlib Media who had never been punched in the face like that before.

But now you can't. If you fight with the Left you will get banned, but the Left can viciously insult the Right all day and nothing happens. So now it's training right-wingers to just take abuse. Cause that's the only way to stay on Twitter. The Left gets to viciously attack and dehumanize their enemies on Social Media, and the Right has to just take it or be banned.

I think that's training Right-wingers to be doormats.

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (eaAeu)

404 Amen. But practically how does this happen? I've been thinking about this and I don't know. Serious question.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (pcsoT)

The same way it happened in 1776. The people deciding they were not going to give up their rights as free men. Like them we need to reach out to other free men in our community first.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (946rW)

405 mEuEj ALERT

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:34 PM (CZm2G)

406 Yet they vote D every time because the GOP is the party of the rich and wants to destroy the working man.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:23 PM (x3Y6G)

This is why I support Trump starting a new party: there are simply a lot of people who will never vote GOP because there's too much historical baggage. Between that and the fact that the entire party structure is rotten, it's simply easier to burn it all to the ground and build anew.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:25 PM (jOc
***********
Unfortunately, the system isn't set up that way.
You're going to need Senators, Reps, legislators and Governors.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 31, 2020 04:34 PM (NpAcC)

407 To be honest it's not just Trump that refuses to give up Twitter, besides Devin Nunes, Dan Bongino and Dinesh just about every conservative pro-Trump politician and pundit refuses to abandon Twitter for Parler.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (qH6FZ)

Twitter helps sell books.
Virtually everyone I follow on Twitter is selling a book--from Mollie to Julie Kelly to Byron York to you name it

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:34 PM (HrMC1)

408 398- agree. A million times. We need a Soros counterweight.

Posted by: Dr. Vivi-Not my SCOTUS, not my FBI at December 31, 2020 04:34 PM (USW1s)

409
Happy new year, Weasel!
Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (/669Q)
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Hey there!! Happy New Year to you too!!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2020 04:34 PM (MVjcR)

410 I don't like Parler but do like Gab.
I don't give a crap if Trump tap-dances while screaming Fake News. He was born into prestige and fame. promiseskept.com is all I care about. He's done everything he promised. For years we begged for somebody in DC to stand up to the media and RINOs and he's done it. You just can't satisfy some people.
PS Trump's not going anywhere. He will be the one inaugurated, not Biden.
I also suggest that some of you go read Lin Wood's twitter account today. He is busting John Roberts and Mark Meadows wide open. If it wasn't true, he would not risk saying it.

Posted by: cjhmhch at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (eSgwh)

411 Trump did not lose.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (66BnU)

WE did

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (HrMC1)

We did not. And we will not unless we roll over supinely and allow them to fit us with slave chains.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (946rW)

412 What does "not accepting this" look like? Houston Astros cheated and still are the World Series Champs of 2018.

Can we go around pretending they don't have that championship?

The Dems created the perfect crime with the 2020 election. They learned from Comey et al. that they could do as they pleased. So they told us how they would steal the election, and proceeded to do so.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (ZfRYq)

413 I dislike the "Trumpism without Trump" talk because I think that too many establishment types are looking to try and use that to worm their way back into power. They're going to push the notion that Jeb! or Rubio or Romney can sell Trumpism. They can't.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:19 PM (jOcSX)

It's the Tea Party all over again. The backstabbing professional politicians ran to get out in front of that parade and promptly destroyed it. It became a fundraising tool for corporatist koch loving bushies. The republicans have a S-midas touch of their own, which is to destroy any real conservatives in favor of making vague statements of "muh principles". All those fat slobs on the Weakly Standard/NRO yacht exemplify what the republican party is really all about.

The November 3 steal of the presidential election is going to be every election in every jurisdiction going forward. It won't count who votes, it's who counts the votes. The only republicans who will ever win again will be bought & paid for by CCP like Mitch & Mitt.

Posted by: Doctor President-Elect Boots at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (oGBso)

414 If Biden gets in watch how fast he tries to steal things that Trump made work and try to take credit for. He and none of his handlers have anything to equal what Trump has done and can't touch him with a 10 foot pole. That green new deal won't hunt.

Posted by: dartist at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (+ya+t)

415 It sets off people here. The word is Nationalism. It freaks certain people right the fvck out.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere

This may be, but my point is that what you call nationalism is really just how things were during the cold war, and back then we didn't call it that. So it is more of a reversion to what was a stable system (free trade among allies, westphalianism, western tradition,...) and not like past nationalist movements.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (LWu6U)

416 Trump stayed on Twitter on purpose, messaging and forcing reports on his tweets

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (OQxH2)

417 You'll need a determined base to begin with. The PanAmerican (or whatever it's called) Party will win absolutely nothing for a fairly long time and the leadership will be targeted by everyone-- Loss of bank accounts, jobs, 'investigations' by every LEO under the Sun.
Posted by: Vanya at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (S6ArX)

I disagree: when change happens it usually happens quickly, because the groundwork was laid long before. Right now Trump is in a position to have that base he needs. The conservative base are pissed, and a lot of conservative Dems don't like the woke crap pushed by the left. The elites have demonstrated their incompetence repeatedly over the past twenty years, especially in the past year with the Kung Flu. I could see Trump holding 50-100k person rallies in swing states, with party sign up tables in the back and MAGA candidates giving speeches.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (jOcSX)

418 Happy New Year, Bluebell and Weasel!

Weasel--I made that purchase yesterday. I've got lessons starting Jan 20.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (TdMsT)

419
For whatever reason - "Nationalism" triggers some. And I get the other part - there are a BIG BUNCH of people, mostly Republican - that simply can't bear the idea of the US no longer being a super power. I suspect those people also get really excited watching football on TV. But I digress.

...why I should do so unless I can be honestly Nationalist - and believe that those in charge view my personal best interests as more worthy than the self interests of any citizen in any other nation ?

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:23 PM (yfUzb)

Those types know the system is intubated and barely twitches. Many of them are amused to watch people polish unfired weapons and mutter about "muh Constitution." The country is post-electoral politics although those can be a useful tool from time to time. Trump was an aberration in part but he showed all was not lost. Is it now? Maybe, probably. But the country we knew was on life support prior to Trump and likely the plug has been pulled again by those with no "childlike respect" for the America we loved.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (puu6v)

420 I live in the gravitational center of megalibtardia and interestingly I have yet to talk to anyone I know that voted for Trump - many just regular "housewives" that were lifelong Democrats - who don't also know the election was stolen in broad daylight.

Posted by: ... at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (Qfu/F)

421 I am already on Parler. Yes, I gave them a phone number which is required so they can send me a text make sure I am who I am. I didn't mind because I already don't pick up the phone unless someone is on my contact list.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (w7KSn)

422 Unfortunately, the system isn't set up that way.
You're going to need Senators, Reps, legislators and Governors.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 31, 2020 04:34 PM (NpAcC)

Nearly all of those people have all demonstrated that they are open to "persuasion".

Posted by: Vanya at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (S6ArX)

423 Looking at Guy Mohawk's nic makes me realize I haven't seen Guy Smiley here for a while. Has he been around?
So...chopped liver I am.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (r+sAi)

424 >>>392 To be honest it's not just Trump that refuses to give up Twitter, besides Devin Nunes, Dan Bongino and Dinesh just about every conservative pro-Trump politician and pundit refuses to abandon Twitter for Parler.

yeah but Trump posting on Parler would immediately bring over half of his followers. The other guys do not have that kind of sway over theri followers.

also, they're ON Parler. Trump isn't.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (5+1A/)

425 Up in the Ozark mountains on my farm. 29 degrees. Roaring fire. Rebel Yell bourbon in me craw. I could do worse. Rain falling will turn to sleet shortly. Then snow. I feel for my city bound brethren.

Yep, it's heading my way. 3 inches of snow, then ice, then more snow.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (nxdel)

426 Trump has the highest political integrity of any major public figure in recent history.

Political integrity = you mean what you say, and fight for what you promise and believe when in power.

He's literally in his own category on this.

Which has a value far beyond the substantive policies.

Two kill-shots for representative government: corrupt the election process (ahemmm), or .... have a trapped electorate, which can vote for X as promised by political candidates, only to have X never pursued or implemented (this is the GOP's kabuki on all key issues that everyone always rightly complains about, and which created the opening for Trump).

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (OTzUX)

427 The two party system has been dead for some time now. Because of Trump, more people noticed. A piece of hiss Unforgivaable Sin.

Posted by: tubal at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (bCLt0)

428 Trumps gets second term starting next month.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (LBiyC)

429 don't care about style. I want someone who fights for me, and my interests as an American. That guy is Trump. It sure as hell isn't any other politician, GOP or otherwise.
Posted by: Weasel

Amen

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (4mEO/)

430 So how polished should the firing pin be? Please tell me what grit sandpaper I should use to clean a firing pin. Small minds are curios.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (/lJxa)

431 Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (TdMsT)
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I heard!! Good for you, and congratulations!!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (MVjcR)

432 So...chopped liver I am.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (r+sAi)
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No! No! Not at all. If Guy Smiley were here I'd be asking where you were!

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (/669Q)

433 Ladyl!!! What did you get?

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (nxdel)

434 354: Disagree. Trump has reached a certain level of love among his base to keep his name alive for decades to come, perhaps even expanded over time via folklore. His isn't a footnote presidency.
Posted by: Revenant at December 31, 2020 04:30 PM
Some years ago, I had to take my boss by his house during work to get something or other. When we walked into his house, he had a little shrine on a side wall off of his entrance with the pictures of MLK, JFK and RFK on the wall.....My boss, Red, was a black guy. Folklore is a powerful thing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (R/m4+)

435 364 Thanks for doing the math. I realized it was hyperbole since if it had
that much energy coming down, as much as a nuclear bomb, then it would
require that much energy to get up there in the first place.
damn. there goes my plan for an infinite energy device that involves rods from god striking impeller blades...

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (v3pYe)

436 Joe Biden will never be President of the United states.

Posted by: deplorable unperson-maskless and mobile at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (sczoJ)

437 >>> The backstabbing professional politicians ran to get out in front of that parade and promptly destroyed it.

Don't forget about the alleged tea party organization founders, who strangely, all wound up very rich while supposedly raising money for the movement.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (5+1A/)

438 WE did

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (HrMC1)
++++We have lost any semblance of a fair and legitimate election from here on out. Talking about who is going to run against who in the next round is an exercise in futility.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (66BnU)

439 425 Up in the Ozark mountains on my farm. 29 degrees. Roaring fire. Rebel Yell bourbon in me craw. I could do worse. Rain falling will turn to sleet shortly. Then snow. I feel for my city bound brethren.

Yep, it's heading my way. 3 inches of snow, then ice, then more snow.
Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (nxdel)

Winter storm warning. Possible power outages. Fitting end to 2020.

Posted by: tubal at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (bCLt0)

440 Unfortunately, the system isn't set up that way.
You're going to need Senators, Reps, legislators and Governors.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 31, 2020 04:34 PM (NpAcC)

Yes, and Trump is the one guy in a position to do it. He could rally supporters, probably winning over a significant chunk of the dems as well, and actually get MAGA candidates into state level offices or the House of Representatives. Even a small core in the House of Reps and statehouses would be crucial.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (jOcSX)

441 I don't care about style. I want someone who fights for me, and my
interests as an American. That guy is Trump. It sure as hell isn't any
other politician, GOP or otherwise.

Yep. Couldn't have said it any better.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (W4eKo)

442 There used to be several websites that give a list of Trump's accomplishments. Anyone know where to find that info before it gets memory holed?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (VP4Cd)

443
"Trumpism" is not a difficult concept. It's populist nationalism. It's got a huge, built-in appeal. And it could create a popular front party consisting of people from across our political spectrum, save for the Communists and their simpering GOP handmaidens.

Sucha party shouldn't sit there fucking around and quibbling over the silly, abstract minutiae of policymaking. That can be for the future. Now, it needs one, simple "us vs. them" message.

Are you for America and Americans? Or do you prefer Chinese money and Mexican sweat to your own home and people?

That's the defining question that needs to be answered, and the entire existing political establishment will give a full-throated endorsement of Chinese money and Mexican sweat, above America and Americans.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (Zm/Ey)

444 404 Red - Conditions now so much different than 1776. Then, the mother country was thousands of miles across an ocean. Today with modern technology and the interspersing of patriots and statists I'm having a hard time imagining how revolution 2.0 would play out. I think it needs to happen, but I guess I'm having a failing of imagination in how to rise up...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (pcsoT)

445 What does "not accepting this" look like? Houston Astros cheated and still are the World Series Champs of 2018.

Can we go around pretending they don't have that championship?

The Dems created the perfect crime with the 2020 election. They
learned from Comey et al. that they could do as they pleased. So they
told us how they would steal the election, and proceeded to do so.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (ZfRYq)

Are you a man or are you a mouse. Arm yourself and fight for your rights.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (946rW)

446 411 Trump did not lose.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2020 04:29 PM (66BnU)
================

WE did
Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (HrMC1)
-----------------------

We did not. And we will not unless we roll over supinely and allow them to fit us with slave chains.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (946rW)
--------------------------------

Listen to Bannon's morning show.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (CZm2G)

447 Joe Biden will never be President of the United states.

He won't be to me... For what that's worth

Posted by: It's me donna at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (Zmnko)

448 I think that's training Right-wingers to be doormats.

Posted by: CordCutterJones at December 31, 2020 04:33 PM (eaAeu)

The original script for Training Day had a moment where Alonzo is explaining why a redneck would give a black vagrant $20 to beat a Doberman puppy.

In 2021, Kristol, Shapiro, Goldberg, Rubin, and Frum will be learning that lesson first hand.

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (vsVIf)

449 431 Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2020 04:35 PM (TdMsT)
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I heard!! Good for you, and congratulations!!
Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (MVjcR)

Thank you!

Right now that puppy is hidden deep in the walls of the house, LOL

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (TdMsT)

450 430 Small minds are curios.
indeed they are. i like to keep them on a shelf with all my other knick-knacks.

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (sGtp+)

451 Wanna know why no cons leave Twitter? Cuz there is more money to be made on Twitter than elsewhere. Stop thinking pundits are altruistic. They are not. They sell a product and they can sell that by being on Twitter. If Parler ever gets to the point where they can make as much or more being there can Twitter they will move.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (x3Y6G)

452 Trumpism =

1. A nationalist ideological view of American economic, cultural and foreign policy interests.

2. A populist political style and message.

3. A brash, over the top salesman meets professional wrestling style when it comes to engaging the institutional class and their allies.

I'm sure this can be refined.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (FDiG/)

453 I'd like to see McConnell and romney out next cycle.

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (4mEO/)

454 Why do you accept a fraud?
Posted by: redbanzai

_______________

But this posture gets tiring.

I DO think Trump lost because of fraud, I don't know why people can't talk about the future without wallowing in the election being stolen.

We've been saying forever Dems have a fraudulent vote machine and we have to exceed that margin to win. Nixon lost in 1960 to JFK over the same thing.

I think this election was winnable for Trump even with the fraud. But if you don't, there's really nothing else to discuss. Who cares about politics anymore, it's already been decided.

Posted by: Blago at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (gkdnV)

455 Come to think of it, I haven't noticed any Parler links here. Maybe I missed them.

But I walked the walk and cut off Twitter and Facebook two years ago. Haven't seen too many prominent alternative media types do the same.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (puu6v)

456 ***********

Unfortunately, the system isn't set up that way.

You're going to need Senators, Reps, legislators and Governors.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 31, 2020 04:34 PM (NpAcC)

And the GOP has shown you that you'll never get enough of those, at one time, to ever take "their" party. You voted for the Tea Party - it was only 1/3 of their new Congressmen. So they froze them out, corrupted those they could, and then worked hard to keep a second wave from hitting. When you sent them an outsider President ? They hung his ass out to dry.

We are not taking over the GOP.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (yfUzb)

457 Impeachment is already forgotten.

Posted by: blaster

Perhaps... but if his presidency ever makes it into history books it will be duly noted. His entry will always have that asterisk next to it. And there will be other "notes" and "citations" regarding that asterisk.

Today, that history will be written by the leftists who've won this round.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (3H9h1)

458 I hope no one will mind if I say I'm looking forward to seeing Trumpism -- without Trump.

I'd like Trump to have an honorary position. A good seat on a high float for all the parades.

Do agree he is his own worst enemy sometimes. Like all of us, but writ large.
Posted by: lizabth at December 31, 2020 03:39 PM (L3Rsz)

-------------

People, we've been there before. Without Trump all Republicans end up like Mitch McConnell or Mitt Romney. He is the only one bloody minded enough to stir up trouble and mean it or at least ride the wave of outrage.

Posted by: President Elect Decaf at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (hpVf/)

459 Are you a man or are you a mouse. Arm yourself and fight for your rights.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (946rW)

He's a demoralizing shill. Dime a dozen nowadays, all with the same script.

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (mEuEj)

460
That Luke Letlow guy died of a heart attack during surgery but he tested postive for the chinese flu so the Left (and the Fake News AP) are fake "reporting" that he died of the chinese flu.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:40 PM (o8voq)

461 Even as people attempt to overturn this election, I'm resigned to the fact that the next step is NOT to hold onto Trump, but to look toward more boring people to take up the cause.

Smoot Hawley might be a good place to start. "Lyin" Ted Cruz too.
Posted by: BurtTC

No. Boring means too cautious, too eager to please the upper middle class bureaucrats and corporate mid-level managers.....
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (jOcSX)

You're welcome to define boring however you like.

I merely mean someone without Trump's history.

In other words, someone other than Trump. It doesn't have to be your worst caricature of a shitty Republican. I gave two examples already.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2020 04:40 PM (oQ94s)

462 I will NEVER accept a senile corrupt Chicom puppet as my ruler. Death is preferable.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 31, 2020 04:40 PM (3XqsM)

463 yeah but Trump posting on Parler would immediately bring over half of his followers. The other guys do not have that kind of sway over theri followers.

also, they're ON Parler. Trump isn't.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:36 PM (5+1A/)

Until now Trump needed to reach people *besides* his followers. He didn't get 12-17 million more votes this time around by being thick.

Posted by: ... at December 31, 2020 04:40 PM (Qfu/F)

464 Living in FL, I can say Floridians here in the Panhandle like DeSantis, but there is nothing that equals the political love they have for PDT. Two different men w different levels of respect. And, DeSantis did a lot for folks here after Hurricane Michael, but it's not the same, or even close.

Posted by: EveR at December 31, 2020 04:40 PM (DsGxB)

465 Use 60 grit when you wipe your ass.

Posted by: wth at December 31, 2020 04:40 PM (v0R5T)

466 All those conservatives previously mentioned are already on Parler.
I can't think of a single one I follow that isn't there already.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at December 31, 2020 04:40 PM (w7KSn)

467 Why do you accept a fraud?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:28 PM
The fraud actually happened. It's easy to note that it did.
And as I said a new admin would be illegitimate, but reality can suck.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2020 04:41 PM (r+sAi)

468 Mark Levin? Good grief he's irrelevant. He's another cheerleader and changes no one's mind. He is good at cashing in on the anger he helps stir up but beyond that his existence means nothing to the country.

How is twitter a monopoly if people are leaving twitter to go to a less successful competitor? Anyone can start a website. Twitter is very dumb but they aren't a monopoly.

Trump lost the election big time. Not even close. That he can't just lie about it on twitter isn't a big deal to me.

Posted by: Dustino at December 31, 2020 04:41 PM (u3RLv)

469 "Virtually everyone I follow on Twitter is selling a book--from Mollie to Julie Kelly to Byron York to you name it"

And they all have Parler accounts also, yet I don't even see them trying to sell books on it. For some reason they think they need to use Twitter and Twitter alone for their work. No will power to quit it or even cut down a fraction.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 31, 2020 04:41 PM (qH6FZ)

470 Cruz would dick you eight ways to Sunday. He's already done it several times.

Posted by: ... at December 31, 2020 04:41 PM (Qfu/F)

471 Are you a man or are you a mouse. Arm yourself and fight for your rights.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (946rW)

Okay, so if I have guns and ammo, what next? I just go down to, where, exactly, and start shooting?

This is where the nut cutting is.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:41 PM (ZfRYq)

472 Honestly I dont see Trump doing much post presidency. He wanted to be potus because well it is potus. Being a shadow leader of the gop.....who needs the headache? My bet is you will not hear much from him Post Jan 21 other than some tweets here and there.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:41 PM (x3Y6G)

473 We are not taking over the GOP.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (yfUzb)

Even a full takeover of the GOP won't matter if the vote count is fraudulent and the lawyers are on the side of the globalists. But that's fine too. January will not be decided by lawyers.

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (vsVIf)

474 There's something about Trump that just doesn't bother me. He's an arrogant, self aggrandizing, cocky SOB and I love that about him. On the occasion he does step on his dick, IDGAF.
Trump is like me, why walk when you can strut.

Posted by: JROD at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (0jZnq)

475 So you girls are going to war? Just like back in Obama's days for foregone peace and prosperity and you were going to water the tree of liberty with,.... urine? Eh?

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (/lJxa)

476 That he can't just lie about it on twitter isn't a big deal to me.
Posted by: Dustino at December 31, 2020 04:41 PM (u3RLv)

Is it big deal that your mother's a three-dollar whore?

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (mEuEj)

477
I just a did a google on "luke letlow." Every single fake news headline is he died from covid. All of them!!

The headlines say "from," but some change that to "with" in the body of their fake stories.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (o8voq)

478 Luke Letlow died while being treated for Covid, according to what I have read.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (w7KSn)

479 Jewells--I got a Glock 43X.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (TdMsT)

480 459 Are you a man or are you a mouse. Arm yourself and fight for your rights.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (946rW)

He's a demoralizing shill. Dime a dozen nowadays, all with the same script.
Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (mEuEj)

Yeah. Fuck you.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING THEN?

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (ZfRYq)

481

BNOOOD

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (o8voq)

482 don't care about style. I want someone who fights for me, and my
interests as an American. That guy is Trump. It sure as hell isn't any
other politician, GOP or otherwise.

Amen to that. I have a female cousin that hates the tweets, his hair, etc. I had to ask her if she's looking for a fvcking date or the leader of the free world.

Posted by: dartist at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (+ya+t)

483 I like the AllState commercial with the tiny island, though my brother pointed out that it's really a photoshop, not of the island, but of all the other little islands around it, and the causeway to the mainland, which is also photoshopped out of the picture.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (yQpMk)

484 "Trumpism" is not a difficult concept. It's populist nationalism.
That sounds way better than my Nationalist Populism - which I've unsuccessfully sold for about a decade. Apparently, I suck at branding.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (yfUzb)

485 465 Use 60 grit when you wipe your ass.
still sounds more comfortable than the italian toilet paper i had to use for a while back in '74.

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (v3pYe)

486 urine? Eh?
Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (/lJxa)

No one wants to know about your fetishes.

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (mEuEj)

487 NUDE.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (/lJxa)

488 451 Wanna know why no cons leave Twitter? Cuz there is more money to be made on Twitter than elsewhere. Stop thinking pundits are altruistic. They are not. They sell a product and they can sell that by being on Twitter. If Parler ever gets to the point where they can make as much or more being there can Twitter they will move.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (x3Y6G)

Most are just as wretched and psychologically damaged as the Bluecheck Mark types are. Honestly, if you cannot dissuade people from getting off freaking Facebook while there literally is being data gathered on them there, it is a haul to get them disconnected from Twitter.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (puu6v)

489 Until now Trump needed to reach people *besides* his followers. He didn't get 12-17 million more votes this time around by being thick.

Posted by: ... at December 31, 2020 04:40 PM (Qfu/F)

Exactly. If Biden's 80 million votes were in any way legitimate, his campaign staff would be feted around Washington as legendary geniuses, not shunted aside for Obama era retread retards.

Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (vsVIf)

490 Call me willow.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (yQpMk)

491 Red - Conditions now so much different than 1776.
Then, the mother country was thousands of miles across an ocean. Today
with modern technology and the interspersing of patriots and statists
I'm having a hard time imagining how revolution 2.0 would play out. I
think it needs to happen, but I guess I'm having a failing of
imagination in how to rise up...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (pcsoT)

I think that people in 1776 did not know how things would play out either. They organized in pubs and churches and took responsibility for their own freedom. They showed up even when it looked like they would surely lose. They leaned on the divine providence of God.
I think the first step for us is not accepting a lie and showing up... on Jan 6 in DC and elsewhere when the opportunity arises. I think we should also be preparing for actual fighting and reaching out to like-minded people who we trust.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (946rW)

492 We are not taking over the GOP.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:39 PM (yfUzb)

Given what you know about the GOP, why would you want to control it? It's entire apparatus is clearly rotten. Taking it over to the point where it served actual Republicanism would gutting it to the studs and restaffing it almost entirely anyway... And all the flushed turds would move to the Dems as 'Centrists' opposed to whatever -tisms you'll be accused of.

Posted by: Vanya at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (S6ArX)

493 Why doesn't Trump (and everyone) just do both platforms? How hard is it for Trump to have someone copy every tweet to Parler? Then they could not shadow ban him so easily, or tag him with warnings, whatever. Seems just stupid to not do every platform possible.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (Cus5s)

494 WHAT ARE YOU DOING THEN?
Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (ZfRYq)

Type louder, can't hear you.

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (mEuEj)

495 Grump. No stealin

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (4mEO/)

496
Posted by: BurtTC

It is disconcerting that you think elections still matter if this steal stands. It is even more disconcerting that you think any politician who values natural rights will even win again if the Dems do this and get away with it.

The only way the republic gets restored if Biden takes office is with a good and proper watering of the Tree of Liberty. Voting and politics ain't gonna do it.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:27 PM (946rW)

You've spent the past 8 weeks acting as if you can do something to overturn this election.

You can't.

Either accept THAT fact, or be prepared for more disconcert.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (oQ94s)

497 Another key thing about no Trump.

The vile and outrageous behavior, including crimes (the worst crimes - weaponizing govt. power for political ends) that were part of the antibody reaction to Trump (not his personality quirks, his policies and political integrity) - will not just go unpunished, but *rewarded*.

Cabinet members (even the useless ones not really implementing the voters' will) chased from restaurants. Presidential family members having their businesses persecuted for no reason. Attendees at your convention acceptance speech physically menaced and verbally attacked - a block from the WH.

And the FBI, DOJ, intel community crimes and abuses. F***ing conversations with other world leaders *leaked*. Impeachment trivialized, made into farce.

All this stuff you rightly railed about here, ace, likely to meet with zero consequences. "Normalized".

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (OTzUX)

498 Why support and link to a platform that hates your guts? I killed my Twitter account and I am jrcarter on Parler. See you there.

You know the best way to regulate Twitter? Bankrupt them.

Posted by: jeff at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (J2JqR)

499 205 Disagree hole hoartly, Trump is lightning in a bottle.

Heard a description the other day, Trump isn't a real politician, never won a position, wasn't a military officer, he is fighting from the same position we are, against the government that is controlling our lives.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 04:46 PM (Cxk7w)

500 When will Wells Fargo have the stimulus money?

They were the last major bank to release the funds the last time.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:46 PM (HrMC1)

501 Step 1: This isn't spam

Step 2: still not spam

No phone number needed
Posted by: Greg Q at December 31, 2020 04:20 PM (bZ64u)

Ok, pixie isn't letting me post a reply, keeps saying it's spam. I can't change the text enough to make it happy. So, I tried, clean machine, might not like that, might not like throw-away accounts. Tried twice. I could do one of my proper email accounts with my own d0ma1ns, but don't want to give them more info than they deserve.

They even ignored request for old account password reactivation.

Posted by: clutch cargo with Extra Hysterical Animal Spirit at December 31, 2020 04:47 PM (L8ADy)

502 All this stuff you rightly railed about here, ace, likely to meet with zero consequences. "Normalized".
Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (OTzUX)

Yep

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:47 PM (4mEO/)

503 329 Note that classical physics survived the death of Newton, and the U.S. Constitution survived the death of the Founders, and Christianity survived the death of Christ.

The question isn't "where will we find another Trump, or Newton, or Madison/Jay/Hamilton, or Jesus"? Obviously such men are quite rare.
That doesn't mean their legacy disappears the moment they're gone. Far from it.

Sometimes just being shown the way is enough.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (dkMgb)

I like this a lot.

Posted by: m at December 31, 2020 04:47 PM (7d/2N)

504 Didn't have the usual wine ( if it would have been Christmas dinner I would have) but the over peat scotch was well with the roast.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2020 04:48 PM (Cxk7w)

505 I also suggest that some of you go read Lin Wood's twitter account today. He is busting John Roberts and Mark Meadows wide open. If it wasn't true, he would not risk saying it.

Lin Wood is a nut and a liability. Dumping a bunch of crazy nuttery a la Q into an already difficult situation is not a winning strategy.

I want competent professionals with willpower to carry through effective strategy, not mindless conspiracy nuts promising everything and delivering nothing.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 04:48 PM (FDiG/)

506 With Trump, never underestimate the power of spite. It was Obama's mockery at the WHCD that pushed Trump to run in 2016, and I think that he won't go away quietly once out of office.

Personally, I think he shouldn't try to build a media empire to counter Fox et al. It would play too much into the left's caricature of him. My personal view is that he should focus on a big, splashy project that if successful would restore American prestige and demonstrate that he can get shit done, while embarrassing the Biden Admin. My vote is to fund a private manned mission to orbit the Moon by 2024. Get a team of young, hungry engineers, cut a deal with Musk for launch space, and build a Lunar capsule.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:48 PM (jOcSX)

507 You've spent the past 8 weeks acting as if you can do something to overturn this election. You can't. Either accept THAT fact, or be prepared for more disconcert.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (oQ94s)

Best comment of the thread. We are two peoples here. Those that want to "vote harder" and "not give up". And those that are ready to move to the next step - but don't know exactly what that looks like, because we lack leadership.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:48 PM (yfUzb)

508 Either accept THAT fact, or be prepared for more disconcert.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (oQ94s)

Be prepared for ligma.

Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:48 PM (mEuEj)

509 Your mom makes less than that for a month of bjs.
Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 03:40 PM (mEuEj)

Your mom likes big things when she's giving bjs in truckstop restrooms.
Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:32 PM (mEuEj)

Is it big deal that your mother's a three-dollar whore?
Posted by: Fritz Langolier at December 31, 2020 04:42 PM (mEuEj)

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2020 04:49 PM (CZm2G)

510 i know none of you read, or with any comprehension but "Where the Red Fern Grows", is a pretty good book. Figure it out.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:49 PM (/lJxa)

511 Trump is fucking hilarious. He, warts and all, resonates with younger people.

I do not want Trumpism without Trump. Love you ace but strong disagreement

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 31, 2020 04:49 PM (/5CdX)

512
Exactly. If Biden's 80 million votes were in any way legitimate, his campaign staff would be feted around Washington as legendary geniuses, not shunted aside for Obama era retread retards.
Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:43 PM (vsVIf)

Great point.

Also, I notice there are no in-depth news pieces analyzing just how Biden slew the Trump dragon.

It's like no one really wants to look at the data.

heh

Posted by: JoeF. at December 31, 2020 04:49 PM (HrMC1)

513 They will only allow elections that are approved by the globalist pushing our nations demise as a soveriegn country. They might allow something to survive if it furthers their comfort.

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2020 04:49 PM (4mEO/)

514 How do you know this?
Posted by: Suky Tawdry at December 31, 2020 04:05 PM (nklea)

"By everything he did, and continues to do, as President. Many of his mistakes are obvious..."

Obvious? Help me out. Please, delineate.

Posted by: Suky Tawdry at December 31, 2020 04:49 PM (nklea)

515 Ace: "It's amazing that Trump has refused to join Parler even as Twitter has censored him and deplatformed his allies."

Agreed. He should've dumped them in Year One.

He needed to have really understood that Content is King in media. He IS/WAS the content. He had the leverage and wasted it. And he ended up punishing some vital competition.

I still back him and will vote for him again, but Trump simply did not slash enough throats and hoist enough flags on some pretty big issues. More than the GOP? Yeah, but that's about as low a bar as one can set. Trump is what the public wanted, not the GOP. Forcing the media landscape to evolve was an essential part of the political process, and Trump missed. Just calling them out wasn't enough. We knew the problem, and just validating what we knew for four years was not enough. He needed to move the ball downfield.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at December 31, 2020 04:50 PM (HhXSr)

516 Are you a man or are you a mouse. Arm yourself and fight for your rights.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:38 PM (946rW)

Okay, so if I have guns and ammo, what next? I just go down to, where, exactly, and start shooting?

This is where the nut cutting is.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2020 04:41 PM (ZfRYq)

That you do not know the "what happens next" is a piss poor reason for giving up and accepting the loss of your rights.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:51 PM (946rW)

517 Wictor thinks it's already been done.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

First I've heard of it ourside of a novel but I believe he is probably correct.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2020 04:51 PM (GrWar)

518 Obvious? Help me out. Please, delineate.
Posted by: Suky Tawdry at December 31, 2020 04:49 PM (nklea)
No. Because I can explain it for you. But I can't understand it for you. It's a waste of my time - and, honestly, yours.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:51 PM (yfUzb)

519 475 So you girls are going to war? Just like back in Obama's days for foregone peace and prosperity and you were going to water the tree of liberty with,.... urine? Eh?

Is this some sort of hidden message about Reggie Love and B. Hussein's sexual playtime?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 31, 2020 04:53 PM (FDiG/)

520 We all know the strongest faith in the lord will prevail in the end.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:53 PM (/lJxa)

521 The irony is, the Deep State could have played to Trump's vanity and gotten him to do most of what they wanted.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 31, 2020 03:51 PM (J70i0)

----------------

This is what I expected as the most likely strategy yet there they were, our betters, acting so stupidly.

Posted by: President Elect Decaf at December 31, 2020 04:53 PM (hpVf/)

522 You've spent the past 8 weeks acting as if you can do something to
overturn this election. You can't. Either accept THAT fact, or be
prepared for more disconcert.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (oQ94s)

It is not us who are trying to overturn an election. Cheating is not winning.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:53 PM (946rW)

523 Jewells45TRUMPWON!

Jeez I hope you and your forecaster are both wrong!
At least in the order you listed.

Posted by: MarkY at December 31, 2020 04:54 PM (+yNXF)

524 No idea what Parler is.

Posted by: TwentytwoLR at December 31, 2020 04:54 PM (VbDLr)

525
Best comment of the thread. We are two peoples here. Those that want to "vote harder" and "not give up". And those that are ready to move to the next step - but don't know exactly what that looks like, because we lack leadership.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 31, 2020 04:48 PM (yfUzb)

-----

'Zackly. I don't have the brains or charisma to lead. But I've got the brains to know that the GOP is a ruined party that can never succeed, and that it's leadership is totally co-opted.

It's already failed. I can't un-fail it for them. What I can do is encourage others to see this, and lend my support to any capable resistance that may, hopefully, arise from this shitshow. The vacuum left by a dead GOP will be filled. Not may be filled. Will be. So, it's time to kill it.

That's the next step. Beyond, that... I don't know, which is another way of saying "the world is our oyster."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 31, 2020 04:54 PM (Zm/Ey)

526 Someone turned everything to italics?

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:54 PM (/lJxa)

527 Muuuuhahahahahahahah

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue Lord of Italics at December 31, 2020 04:55 PM (FDiG/)

528 NUUUDE.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:55 PM (/lJxa)

529 Good thing this is a dead thread. I totally couldn't do the barrel on New Years Eve.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue Lord of Italics at December 31, 2020 04:55 PM (FDiG/)

530

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 31, 2020 04:56 PM (Zm/Ey)

531 Fuck you and your italics. Excuse the fuck you if offensive.

Posted by: Stinklering at December 31, 2020 04:56 PM (/lJxa)

532 Can't you just give them a fake number or the number of someone you don't like?
Posted by: dartist at December 31, 2020 04:14 PM (+ya+t)

my friends on parler say it constantly logs you out then sends a new code to your phone
a lot of them have given up on it because of that

Posted by: Doctor Elect vmom at December 31, 2020 04:56 PM (nUhF0)

533 I think the first step for us is not accepting a lie and showing up... on Jan 6 in DC ...

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 31, 2020 04:45 PM (946rW)

Agreed. We can see how motivated our side truly is, in person. In the digital age of surveillance, it's hard to organize like the patriots did back in the day.

In the run up to the American Revolution, the Post Office played a huge role in communications. The postal museum in DC has an informative display about that. This time round the post office is run & staffed by the enemy.

Posted by: Doctor President-Elect Boots at December 31, 2020 04:57 PM (oGBso)

534 Gab is more reliable and easier to use than Parler. It has also been through several deplatforming attacks and come up a winner. Parler is clunky, has serious security issues (ask Codemonkey), and seems mostly to be a honeypot for conservatives and a new bastion for Conservative Inc.

Posted by: Star Tripper at December 31, 2020 04:59 PM (qbtzn)

535 "But when Biden and Co. really fuck things up--and they will and soon--the first politician to ape Trump's positions--and be sincere about it--will have the inside track on 2024."

For the primaries, true. But, if this current voter fraud stands, the Rs will never win another election, for one or two (or both) reasons: ongoing systemic fraud and the Dem votes by immigrants who were once illegal.

If today's fraud stands, being an R won't matter.

Also, Trump will start a 3rd party and the Rs will be dead. They don't know that yet.

Posted by: Suky Tawdry at December 31, 2020 05:00 PM (nklea)

536 501 So, I tried, clean machine, might not like that, might not like throw-away accounts. Tried twice. I could do one of my proper email accounts with my own d0ma1ns, but don't want to give them more info than they deserve.

They even ignored request for old account password reactivation.

I'm sorry you're getting screwed. It's worked for me. :-(

Posted by: Greg Q at December 31, 2020 05:01 PM (bZ64u)

537 9mm Sellier and Bellot 124gr FMJ Ammo, 1000rd case.

$629

https://bit.ly/2X1doIg
Posted by: bonhomme at December 31, 2020 04:12 PM (i0wNm)

There's supposedly an FFL not too far away that charges a decent fee for ammo, I'm going to call them when (if) they open and see what they want.

The FFL's near me are gouging, the flat rates go between $100-150, which is insane if I'm getting $300 worth of something.

I'll be all over that 9mm if these guys are reasonable. Otherwise, I'm ready to just get a few grand worth of ammo. I'm so old, I remember just walking into stores and buying a couple of boxes. Seriously, my local shop last I was there had half a dozen 12 gauge boxes, and that was it. And I know if they had gotten any inventory, because they post it on Instagram (my notifications are turned on).

Posted by: clutch cargo with Extra Hysterical Animal Spirit at December 31, 2020 05:01 PM (L8ADy)

538 Looks like it's time to hoist the black flag and begin slitting wrists.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 31, 2020 05:02 PM (3P/5p)

539 I'm sorry you're getting screwed. It's worked for me. :-(
Posted by: Greg Q at December 31, 2020 05:01 PM (bZ64u)

It might be they're using my ISP to rat me out. I tried with a VPN, and that didn't work.

I might need to do this when I next go into the office, I don't think they've tied me to that one yet.

Posted by: clutch cargo with Extra Hysterical Animal Spirit at December 31, 2020 05:02 PM (L8ADy)

540 421 I am already on Parler. Yes, I gave them a phone number which is required so they can send me a text make sure I am who I am. I didn't mind because I already don't pick up the phone unless someone is on my contact list.
Posted by: navybrat

And when you post something someone doesn't like, and Parler gives away your info?

What do you do after you've lost your job?

It's not about not getting spammed. It's about the reality that free speech requires anonymity

Posted by: Greg Q at December 31, 2020 05:03 PM (bZ64u)

541 Don't forget about the alleged tea party organization founders, who strangely, all wound up very rich while supposedly raising money for the movement.
Posted by: ace at December 31, 2020 04:37 PM (5+1A/)

Have we all become nihilists at this stage? Yes, there is a lot of evil and its hard to have hope....but a lot of you who comment here are too young for that. The older of us aren't going to be as helpful to you, we're jaded.

My prayer for the 2021 new year is that people aren't as worthless as my time here on Earth has taught me and that the younger of us still have hope. The world is not DC or liberal big cities.

Posted by: Boswell at December 31, 2020 05:15 PM (w2LAm)

542 Trump is like Breitbart. No one will replace what was lost.

Posted by: Bosk at December 31, 2020 05:21 PM (SWbVS)

543 I understand that Twitter is run by some homeless guy

Posted by: SMOD at December 31, 2020 05:21 PM (3aI0K)

544 In all fairness, Trump needed Twitter at least until he was reelected. He had to have that reach, even if they were not honest brokers and throttled him when they could.

If he had not lead an exodus after a successful reelection then I think it would be a fair criticism.

Also, IIRC, the WH press corps banded together in revolt when Trump tried to let other outlets have more questions etc... but he at least made an effort to call them on their bullshit and give others a chance.

Posted by: Thatch at December 31, 2020 05:24 PM (qWceQ)

545 "If I exorcise my devils, well, my angels may leave too / And when they leave, they're so hard to find..."

T. Waits

Posted by: Beverly at December 31, 2020 05:25 PM (nYib8)

546 Right now that puppy is hidden deep in the walls of the house, LOL

Uh, oh.

The original script for Training Day had a moment where Alonzo is explaining why a redneck would give a black vagrant $20 to beat a Doberman puppy.

In 2021, Kristol, Shapiro, Goldberg, Rubin, and Frum will be learning that lesson first hand.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 31, 2020 05:30 PM (ab0zp)

547
Personally, I think he shouldn't try to build a media empire to counter Fox et al. It would play too much into the left's caricature of him. My personal view is that he should focus on a big, splashy project that if successful would restore American prestige and demonstrate that he can get shit done, while embarrassing the Biden Admin. My vote is to fund a private manned mission to orbit the Moon by 2024. Get a team of young, hungry engineers, cut a deal with Musk for launch space, and build a Lunar capsule.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 31, 2020 04:48 PM (jOcSX)

Setting up a shadow government is a good plan. It's going to happen, anyhow, although The Thing in D.C. will retain for some time the monopoly on use of force. The Left wants Trump to become Goldstein but my money is he becomes Vlacek Havel with gaudy buildings and more stones.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 31, 2020 05:38 PM (puu6v)

548 nood
an hour ago or so

Posted by: andycanuck at December 31, 2020 05:42 PM (ab0zp)

549 hey red
its a long way to the top if you want to rock n roll
TRUMP WON!
Wheres bino and his bat?

Posted by: vizzy at December 31, 2020 05:45 PM (R/9t3)

550 There's no Trumpism without Trump at least not in the GOP - they are all dependent on the money masters that back Linsey Graham, Mitch McConnell and the establishment Democrats as well.

Add to that, the blue collar voters in the rust belt that voted for Donald Trump do no like the GOP and certainly not GOP politicians - with good reason.

I firmly believe that no current GOP pol can win the WH in a fair election because PA, WI, MI don't like them. Not that it matters, because if this steal stands there will never be another legitimate election in the former United States.

Posted by: Lulu at December 31, 2020 05:48 PM (Ve//x)

551 Trumpism without Trump?

Reaganism without Reagan gave us Paul Ryan.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 31, 2020 06:21 PM (Ndje9)

552 and L'il Marco!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 31, 2020 06:22 PM (Ndje9)

553 Trump is endorsing Twitter? Good one. Like I said, Twitter has basic accessibility, even with shadow bans and various fuckery. Parler can't actually be read unless you're signed in with your actual phone number. Trump has actual reach on Twitter- even on Gab, where he also has an account. Parler's just a very limited echo chamber with some pretty sketchy practices.

And that's before you see NYT and CNN promoting Parler as the edgy IDW alternative to Twitter. They could not possibly be more sus.
Posted by: trev006 at December 31, 2020 04:22 PM (vsVIf)

I think I am happy I was not able to join Parler.

Posted by: WhyBanned at December 31, 2020 06:49 PM (YkawN)

554 I read and read on here. "Trump messed this up, he messed that up" "Trump's style, it's too grating, we need someone with the same ideas but different style". Y'all watch too much TV. You are parroting what the TV describes Trump as. Trump, or actually Trump and the people behind him, are the only people who can clean these bastards up. It's ludicrous to think that anything short of war..hot war..will work if the Opposition is allowed to get away with openly stealing elections and covering it up with the media.

Posted by: azjaeger at December 31, 2020 07:24 PM (3/XaG)

555 Parler requires you to log in to see anything posted there. It's just another walled garden. A ready-made ghetto. It's a trap. Boycott it.

Posted by: Rollory at December 31, 2020 08:17 PM (/7rkf)

556 Lin Wood is a nut and a liability. Dumping a bunch of crazy nuttery a la
Q into an already difficult situation is not a winning strategy.

Typical response of a troll to say it's Q. Most people don't even know who or what a Q is. Lin Wood knows if what he is saying is not true, he will be sued into bankruptcy.

Posted by: cjhmhch at December 31, 2020 10:36 PM (eSgwh)

557 Totally disagree about why Trump is on Twitter. How would he prove to everyone's lying eyes the vast reach of Twitter's censorship and persecution of conservatives if he left - and all the rest of us left? Now we see every day what they do to his tweets. We see people he retweets getting the boot. We see how he's shadow banned. He's making it all too easy for the world to see. If they'll censor a president, they'll censor anyone. And our feckless congress can't insist that it isn't happening. Maybe eventually that will lead to some kind of consequences.

Posted by: Linda at December 31, 2020 10:42 PM (93i2I)

558 Just wanted to say, there is no Trumpism without Trump. If the leader of the free world can't defeat the deep state, no one can. Without him there is a loose collection of patriots with no direction or pathway.

Posted by: Isolden at January 01, 2021 02:47 AM (dB99g)

559 This misses the point.

The battle is on Twitter not Parlar. Sure have a back up, but the war is not taking place on Parlar.

The fact President Trump often calls out Fox News underscores this point and they are "the friendly Media" going by the received wisdom. He's aware of who his (real) friends are but also where the actual conflict is.

Retreating to Parlar solves nothing and lets Twitter hide its hypocrisy and agenda.

Posted by: Rodney Johnson at January 01, 2021 06:06 AM (A5STV)

560 I mind.

Posted by: Victoria at January 01, 2021 08:51 AM (uHCPG)

561 Parler is NOTHING like fakebook and sucks, in my opinion. He should really be on MeWe for a fakebook replacement. Parler is like TWATTER.

Posted by: Deplorably Bonnie Blue says TRUMP WON at January 01, 2021 10:15 AM (BNMel)

562 9 GAB is better than all that bullshit.
Posted by: frank at December 31, 2020 03:36 PM (KrmLv)

I really like GAB but it sure seems to load slow as molasses. Drives me nuts.

Posted by: Deplorably Bonnie Blue says TRUMP WON at January 01, 2021 10:16 AM (BNMel)

563 Like Ace I like a lot of what Trump does, but some of his personality quirks are not attractive.
Posted by: Bete at December 31, 2020 03:40 PM (Ojki1)

You could probably say that about ANY New Yorker - and I will! LOL
Any/most/all New Yorkers have personality quirks are not attractive.

Posted by: Deplorably Bonnie Blue says TRUMP WON at January 01, 2021 10:20 AM (BNMel)

564 Trumping without Trump

What a moronic statement. Without Trump, there is no trumping. Can you see Desantisim or Penseism?

That's not moronic. It's stupid. Go kiss McConnell ring you ass.

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