The Morning Report - 12/30/20 [J.J. Sefton]

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Good morning, kids. Wednesday and the penultimate day of 2020, which may very well go down in history as "Year Zero" depending upon what happens a week from now in Congress. More on that in a moment, but on the continuing idiocy of the kabuki/bukkake theater that is that body, Mitch McConnell has pulled one of his trademark cunning stunts by agreeing to raise the original $600 insult to the President's demand of $2,000, but only if the new bill includes the repeal of the Section 230 protections for Big Brother Tech.

Honestly, it's hard for me to get all excited about this; if Joe-Blow is/are installed and the Georgia Senate seats are also stolen (as I fear is a likely scenario), Section 230 protection for the Enemy Propaganda Complex will be reinstated as if it never went away in the first place. All this talk about 2022 and 2024 is as idiotic as the illusion of regular order, parliamentary procedure, comity and all that other rot. I mean, for fuck's sake; the judge in Georgia who blocked the purging of voter rolls in two counties is the sister of Tank Abrams. The litany of corruption in that state as well as the five others are well documented and show beyond any reasonable doubt that the 2020 election was indeed stolen. John Lott, who is the nation's foremost expert on gun crimes, 2A issues and an adviser to the DOJ just released a report that concludes up to 368,000 "excess votes" did indeed tip the scales for the Polident-Elect in the critical swing states:

"Increased fraud can take many forms: higher rates of filling out absentee ballots for people who hadn't voted, dead people voting, ineligible people voting, or even payments to legally registered people for their votes. [...] The estimates here indicate that there were 70,000 to 79,000 "excess" votes in Georgia and Pennsylvania. Adding Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, and Wisconsin, the total increases to up to 289,000 excess votes," the summary notes.

Lott, who now serves as a Senior Adviser for Research and Statistics at the Office of Justice Programs, also adds that there are two reasons to even believe the aforementioned numbers are "underestimates":

1) the estimates using precinct level data assume that there is no fraud occurring with in-person voting and 2) the voter turnout estimates do not account for ballots for the opposing candidate that are lost, destroyed, or replaced with ballots filled out for the other candidate

Lott points to universal mail-in voting as a hotbed for fraud, remarking "unsecured absentee ballots create the potential that either fraudulent ballots will be introduced or votes to be destroyed."

This is on top of what we all saw happen in real time on election night, when the observers were kicked out of the tabulating centers, the doors and windows sealed and the pallets of ballots trucked in and, voila! As if the GOP state legislators and officials, did not see this coming. They did and yet still certified the electoral votes. Considering the character of most Republicans in the House and especially in the Senate mirrors that of the useless, spineless, corrupted jellyfish in the state legislatures in question, I am dreading next Wednesday like the plague (a real one, not the phony one foisted on us by the Chi-Coms and their Leftist agents in our own borders).

And for the third day in a row, all eyes turn to Vice President Pence. Edward Davis over at American Thinker argues that the GOPers in Congress should not contest the electors and leave the heavy lifting to the veep:

...opinion has long been divided on what the vice president is empowered to do in his vote-counting role. Ivan Raiklin is hardly alone in his argument. It should not surprise us. Constitutional law frequently is not black and white, as seen in the numerous 5-4 Supreme Court decisions by Justices applying the same law to the same facts.

In other words, Pence should go for it. He need only interpret "votes" as votes from states not in dispute, and count them accordingly. He could declare, "I will not count the Biden electors, or the competing slates of Trump electors, in disputed states where there is overwhelming credible evidence of systemic fraud." Thus would he restore the election win to President Trump, from whom it was audaciously stolen.

What would Pence have to lose? A commenter at Legal Insurrection observed:

Pence should refuse to count votes from the contested states, and dare someone to sue him in court. Then the SCOTUS can simply docket that for January 21, 2021. If the SCOTUS can't stop states from stealing elections, they damn well don't have the power to stop Pence from counting the votes any way he wants to.

One caveat: This has been a season in which everyone seems to be letting us down. Why expect Pence to be any different? The Washington Post reported, "Pence is hoping for a low-key Jan. 6 and is not planning any unnecessary drama, aides said, intending to stick to his perfunctory role. He is eyeing a trip overseas soon after."

But the Post report might be inaccurate, or this could be Trump disinformation intended to cause the opposition to let down their guard.

As for the mention of no "unnecessary drama" in Pence's plans, that doesn't rule out necessary drama. The Democratic election theft was bold and shocking. It calls for a bold, shocking correction.

As I have often stated, the more dire the situation, the more unassailable the logic, the more massive the evidence, the more clear the remedy, the more you can count on any given Republican to ignore it all and do exactly the wrong thing. So, the $62 trillion dollar question is, is Mike Pence any given Republican? With a nod towards the great Milton Friedman PBUH, will the weight of history compel the wrong man (or at best perhaps the unlikely man) to do the right thing?

The world wonders...

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1 st?

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at December 30, 2020 07:17 AM (Cme7M)

2 Happy Penultimate Day of 2020

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 07:18 AM (5QBw6)

3 very bold and italian

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 07:18 AM (5QBw6)

4 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at December 30, 2020 07:18 AM (4Znaf)

5 rd?

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at December 30, 2020 07:18 AM (Cme7M)

6

Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 30, 2020 07:19 AM (XH/UL)

7 FIXT?

Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 30, 2020 07:19 AM (XH/UL)

8 Come on Eileen?

Posted by: FtWorthMike at December 30, 2020 07:21 AM (EgUvv)

9 Dammit too slow

Posted by: FtWorthMike at December 30, 2020 07:21 AM (EgUvv)

10 Turn it or burn it. Wake me when I Can actually do something productive about it.

Posted by: Brother Tim at December 30, 2020 07:21 AM (Mooke)

11 Good morning all. So MUCH to read!

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 30, 2020 07:21 AM (PzBTm)

12 >"Someone needs to decide to have a backbone on January 6."



bloody fat chance

Posted by: DB- just DB at December 30, 2020 07:21 AM (iTXRQ)

13 The judge sister approves of the romance writer sister's efforts to keep voter names active, even though they have notified the post office and/or the state of Georgia they moved.

Nothing fishy about any of that at all. People want off Georgia's voter roles and judge sister says, ummm, no, my sister will need your credentials for one more election.

And Marc Elias is her lawyer. Of course he is.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 07:22 AM (e8tKz)

14 God damn America sermon as a very thoughtful and compelling discussion on how a Christian should view government.

Now do that with EBT cards. Now do that with Food Stamps. Now do that with Section 8.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 07:23 AM (5QBw6)

15 Two big, fat, greasy affirmative action grifters at the top of the page.

Both should be in prison, not public office.

The faces of the democrat party and their voters.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 30, 2020 07:23 AM (sVFtl)

16 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 30, 2020 07:24 AM (pmEbq)

17 I have trust in Pence to do the right thing:

https://youtu.be/2yuXGWPjM1Q

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 07:25 AM (h9CJU)

18 A belated daily greeting from Salty, sho is currently unavailable:

Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 30, 2020 07:25 AM (3D/fK)

19 So, the $62 trillion dollar question is, is Mike Pence any given Republican?

If his record in Indiana is any indication - yes, he is. The guy constantly caved to pressure. Mike Pence is not the guy to buck the system. And make no mistake, he would have to - from within the GOP. They've made it clear. They want Trump gone.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 07:25 AM (cBH+b)

20 So is the New Yorker rehab of Weiner so complete that they're identifying him as Shecky Schumer's protege?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 07:26 AM (y7DUB)

21 Someone needs to decide to have a backbone on January 6." (Tuberville? Cotton? Hawley? Cruz? Paul? - jjs)

Help Wanted: One GOP Senator With Guts

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Yep. Stop telling us. Show us.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:27 AM (ZLyax)

22 Moronin', Hourde!

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at December 30, 2020 07:28 AM (u7pQw)

23 There's something fundamentally sick about a pseudo party that won't fight for the President that the base overwhelmingly favors. Can anyone imagine the commiecrats doing that?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 07:29 AM (y7DUB)

24 Having no recourse. Increasingly this is the position we find ourselves in, or being placed in. They are systematically stripping us of every legal and civilized option for fulfillment of our Constitutional rights as well as relief from the oppressive efforts to deny us those rights.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 07:29 AM (H8QX8)

25 "23 There's something fundamentally sick about a pseudo party that won't fight for the President that the base overwhelmingly favors. "

This is the message I send my senators (Graham and Scott) almost every day. No response other than a form letter. Not one of their "updates" since the election has even addressed the fraud or mentioned support for President Trump. I warned them that on this course their party is finished.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 07:31 AM (H8QX8)

26 I will be waiting to see if now that some of the $600 checks have gone out, those same people get another $2,000 beside because---gov't.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2020 07:32 AM (s9hWT)

27 Damn, it's the Butt sisters from the Troglodyte Song.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 30, 2020 07:32 AM (I58tH)

28 Good morning?

I knew Stacy Abrams had some powerful backers, and now I see that she attended Bilderberg 2019.

Yeah, she's been picked for this -- I shudder to think about her presidential abitions now.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 07:33 AM (bDqIh)

29 ...opinion has long been divided on what the vice president is empowered to do in his vote-counting role.

______


"The Vice President has no standing. Next!" -- SCOTUS

Posted by: ShainS at December 30, 2020 07:33 AM (WqPYg)

30 There's something fundamentally sick about a pseudo party that won't fight for the President that the base overwhelmingly favors. Can anyone imagine the commiecrats doing that?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 07:29 AM (y7DUB)

--

It helps to remember that they're on one side - the same side - and we're on the other.

I regret that I'm not typing that in jest.

See also: TEA Party, 2010

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:34 AM (ZLyax)

31 There's something fundamentally sick about a pseudo
party that won't fight for the President that the base overwhelmingly
favors. Can anyone imagine the commiecrats doing that?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 07:29 AM (y7DUB)


But they did. They screwed Bernie - he was their Trump. They just didn't let Bernie get as far as the White House. And they pulled some shady shit to get Obama over the finish line the first time against Clinton - when she was quite a bit more popular than in 2016. Disqualified her Michigan delegates, IIRC.

Both these parties have proven something, and they've done it more than once. They care more than anything about keeping control of their party. They care more about that than winning elections.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 07:34 AM (cBH+b)

32 23 There's something fundamentally sick about a pseudo party that won't fight for the President that the base overwhelmingly favors. Can anyone imagine the commiecrats doing that?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 07:29 AM (y7DUB)

A lot of Republicans seem to have this idiotic idea that everything will return to normal, and that the old Bush Party will come back.

They don't realize that the Democrats aren't who they pretended to be, and that they've been scared shitless by the past four years of someone calling them out on their bullshit. That fear is propelling them to get power by hook or by crook, and never let it go again.

We are no longer dealing with rational opponents, but irrational, desperate enemies.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 30, 2020 07:35 AM (Msrhc)

33 Turn it or burn it. Wake me when I Can actually do something productive about it.
Posted by: Brother Tim at December 30, 2020 07:21 AM (Mooke)


Dittos.

Posted by: Doctor 🐧, President Elect at December 30, 2020 07:35 AM (Nt/V+)

34 27 Damn, it's the Butt sisters from the Troglodyte Song.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 30, 2020 07:32 AM (I58tH)


The Jimmy Castor Bunch!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 07:36 AM (s2VJv)

35 everytang you need to know

In 2015, the FBI caught onto her and warned Swalwell about her.

This was the same year the House Democrats under Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who had been briefed on the spy and her relationship with Swalwell,

elevated him to the House Intelligence Committee.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 07:36 AM (5QBw6)

36 I knew Stacy Abrams had some powerful backers, and now I see that she attended Bilderberg 2019.

Yeah, she's been picked for this -- I shudder to think about her presidential abitions now.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 07:33 AM (bDqIh)

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Think of every incompetent, self-assured, hateful, obese black-culture woman you've ever gone to school with or worked around.

That will be our president. Karmella will be close, but she's not "black" so she doesn't really understand the cultural role she's supposed to play everywhere she goes.

Stacy does.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:36 AM (ZLyax)

37 Andrew Schulz is going to get a watch. You never know, I might learn something! Thanks for the recommendation link.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 07:37 AM (e8tKz)

38 Thank you, JJ.
Back to the top and back to the links.

60 years old and thoroughly tired of the fraud. Civil disobedience until the day I die.

Posted by: Pakistani Gender Studies One Horse Pony at December 30, 2020 07:37 AM (jV+aN)

39 It helps to remember that they're on one side - the same side - and we're on the other.

I regret that I'm not typing that in jest.

See also: TEA Party, 2010
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:34 AM (ZLyax)

The factions have changed. There are now The Uniparty and The Governed. Our interests are at odds and cannot be reconciled.

The problem is that we, The Governed, do not actually have a political party that advances our agenda.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 30, 2020 07:37 AM (Msrhc)

40 Pence will do what all the other Republicans have done: cave.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 30, 2020 07:39 AM (k4dH2)

41 One of the science links goes to a story about the Saturnian moon Titan, which apparently has seas of liquified natural gas, one of which is called Kraken Mare

so that's cool

Posted by: DB- just DB at December 30, 2020 07:41 AM (iTXRQ)

42 Dances with Hippo's is an AMAZING beauty.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 30, 2020 07:41 AM (buTO7)

43 The problem is that we, The Governed, do not actually have a political party that advances our agenda.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 30, 2020 07:37 AM (Msrhc)


The only bright spot I see - and it'll be a bitter pill for some to swallow here - is that we are far from alone. Blue collar working class folks that typically voted Democrat have no friends either, be they union or non-union. I don't have the anti organized labor reflex that others do. I don't mind making common cause with them. Either way - numbers don't mean a damn thing at the ballot box. But there are plenty of potential friends out there.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 07:41 AM (cBH+b)

44 40 Pence will do what all the other Republicans have done: cave.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 30, 2020 07:39 AM (k4dH2)

The Republican Party is the same as the Democratic Party - it is an organization in pursuit of a new aristocracy, and no friend of the American people. Its primary objectives do not differ, the only difference is who gets what title, and how long it takes to get there.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 30, 2020 07:41 AM (Msrhc)

45 Even with border counties in TExas:

Total Texas Hospital Capacity 67,495
Total Staffed Inpatient Beds 59,241
Available Texas Hospital Beds 12,320

So about 81.75% full. It takes around 88% for most hospitals to be profitable.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 07:41 AM (5QBw6)

46 Both these parties have proven something, and they've done it more than once. They care more than anything about keeping control of their party. They care more about that than winning elections.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 07:34 AM (cBH+b)


Although I agree with you on the control aspect, Bernie was the complete opposite of DJT, with no real accomplishments in life other than gulling the dumbasses in Vermont. There was no signature legislation the ol' commie sponsored; he was there for the grift. Trump did real things in life that real people wanted to buy.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 07:42 AM (y7DUB)

47 41 One of the science links goes to a story about the Saturnian moon Titan, which apparently has seas of liquified natural gas, one of which is called Kraken Mare

so that's cool
Posted by: DB- just DB at December 30, 2020 07:41 AM (iTXRQ)


Maybe Roger McGuinn can rewrite "Chestnut Mare."

Just kidding. One of my all time favorite songs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 07:42 AM (s2VJv)

48 Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:27 AM (ZLyax)

+ + +

So, who's correct about asymptomatics, Lying Fauci or these professionals?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya8g2ckk

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 07:43 AM (h9CJU)

49 The only bright spot I see - and it'll be a bitter pill for some to swallow here - is that we are far from alone. Blue collar working class folks that typically voted Democrat have no friends either, be they union or non-union. I don't have the anti organized labor reflex that others do. I don't mind making common cause with them. Either way - numbers don't mean a damn thing at the ballot box. But there are plenty of potential friends out there.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 07:41 AM (cBH+b)

I'm willing to make common cause with anybody that's against the Swamp, at this point. We can hash out our differences after the Hydra is slain, and perhaps fighting side by side will help to remind them that we're human beings and not media-driven stereotypes.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 30, 2020 07:44 AM (Msrhc)

50 In the midst of the holidays and a coup, President Trump decides to issue a proclamation honoring the martyrdom of Thomas Becket in 1170. The most famous fighter against intrusive all-powerful government honored by a President battling tyranny. Do the Propaganda Press even know who Becket is? If so, lefty heads explode in 5...4...3...


Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 07:45 AM (e8tKz)

51 40 Pence will do what all the other Republicans have done: cave.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 30, 2020 07:39 AM (k4dH2)

Pence is a milksop Judas and, in the clutch, will betray Trump for his 30 pieces of "future political viability." Easiest prediction I've ever made.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 07:46 AM (H8QX8)

52 >>Like John Oliver, Schulz centers each episode largely on a single topic, breathlessly winding his way through the dark forest of our politics and culture, cutting down corrupt so-called elites along the way with total abandon. Unlike neoliberal political comedians, however, Schulz's subject matter reveals interests and concerns that are far more in touch with his audience.


That's great, really. About time there's a non-progressive version of this model. Hope Schultz is successful and has a far reach.

However, I am quite sick of comedians-turned-pundits going on rants.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 07:46 AM (bDqIh)

53 Blue collar working class folks that typically voted Democrat have no friends either, be they union or non-union.

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Union-wise? Now that it doesn't matter and they're only going to be looking for who will give them the most free sh*t, they'll vote Democrat indefinitely.

See also: Teachers

Non union? Who knows.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:46 AM (ZLyax)

54 How is it that Stacy abrams, who lost her election, has more power than the turdwaffle that won?

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2020 07:47 AM (Izzlo)

55 We saw the early lineaments of the deep state when Perot ran. I distinctly remember how both parties and the media fused together in their animalistic attacks on him. Perot was the proto-Trump.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 07:48 AM (H8QX8)

56 Vermont is an unusual place. I saw a guy's truck there last week sporting two bumper stickers, one being "Black Rifles Matter" and other being a Bernie sticker. Still puzzling over that one.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 07:49 AM (e8tKz)

57 Yeah, she's been picked for this -- I shudder to think about her presidential abitions now.

So do I. My lefty friends just love her. Barf.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 30, 2020 07:49 AM (nxdel)

58 >>Do the Propaganda Press even know who Becket is? If so, lefty heads explode in 5...4...3...



A Broadway playwright, duh!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 07:50 AM (bDqIh)

59 I cover Beckett when I teach my Chaucer unit in my British lit class. My kids are shocked every year by what Henry II did. I then tell them about Henry VIII. More shock.

Posted by: Jmel at December 30, 2020 07:50 AM (bVhJi)

60 How is it that Stacy abrams, who lost her election, has more power than the turdwaffle that won?
Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2020 07:47 AM (Izzlo)


If you are the GOP, and you want Trump gone, why not let her be the face of the steal in GA ?

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 07:51 AM (Y4WlI)

61 Hey JJ I liked this story!

text

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 07:51 AM (5QBw6)

62 This year is starting to have a "Man in the High Castle" feel to it. Year Zero, indeed.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 30, 2020 07:51 AM (7ZQe3)

63 Blue collar working class folks that typically voted Democrat have no friends either, be they union or non-union.

This is why that obese tub of goo, Karl Rove, would tell the chortling monkey, Chris Wallace, that the Reagan Democrats didn't exist? Really, fat boy? Where did they go?

Trump knew they were still around and appealed to them with an America First agenda.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 07:51 AM (y7DUB)

64 So, who's correct about asymptomatics, Lying Fauci or these professionals?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya8g2ckk

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 07:43 AM (h9CJU)

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It's absurd to pretend that asymptomatic carriers are driving the spread of a respiratory virus to any degree. They certainly CAN spread it, but they're not a major threat and it's silly to have them wear masks to... wait for it... prevent droplets from coughs and sneezes from infecting other people.

Anyway, evolutionarily, what would be the point of infecting a person so that they didn't sneeze, cough, or produce increased mucus that would infect other surfaces? That virus wouldn't last a month.

Utter absurdity.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:52 AM (ZLyax)

65 >>How is it that Stacy abrams, who lost her election, has more power than the turdwaffle that won?


Because of who is backing her.
Soros funds her voterPAC/non-profit or whatever it is.
And she was hangin' with the Bilderberg gang in 2019. Lord know who else is funding her/clearing the path behind the scenes.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 07:52 AM (bDqIh)

66 Maybe Roger McGuinn can rewrite "Chestnut Mare."



Just kidding. One of my all time favorite songs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 07:42 AM (s2VJv)

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Playing now. Thanks for the reminder.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 07:52 AM (e8tKz)

67 Lets just be honest, the American First policy and the America First agenda that Donald Trump has unleashed is never going back to the bottle. We have won the debate on putting America first.

Slips $10 Million to the Pakis for transgender period poverty re-education and bomb making classes.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 07:54 AM (5QBw6)

68 Leave nothing to Pence.

Posted by: Valiant at December 30, 2020 07:54 AM (3MiF8)

69 Good morning Hordlings. Keep the faith! PDT hasn't given up, and neither should we. We owe him at least that much.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 30, 2020 07:55 AM (sGotD)

70 "As Americans, we were first united by our belief that 'rebellion to
tyrants is obedience to God'and that defending liberty is more
important than life itself. If we are to continue
to be the land of the free, no government official, no governor, no
bureaucrat, no judge, and no legislator must be allowed to decree what
is orthodox in matters of religion or to require religious believers to
violate their consciences."

~~ President Donald J. Trump (2020)

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 07:56 AM (e8tKz)

71 Trump knew they were still around and appealed to them with an America First agenda.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 07:51 AM (y7DUB)


Exactly - I work with many such men in the trades. Like I said, I don't have the anti-Union reflex. Unions are like cops; a reflection of their community more than anything else. At least in the trades, I believe Trump won.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 07:57 AM (Y4WlI)

72 hahaha

Even that study link confirms it:

"However, Cowling said, because asymptomatic people don't cough or sneeze, they might not be as efficient at spreading the virus as symptomatic people."

Science is simple, folks. Don't make it complicated.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:57 AM (ZLyax)

73 In the future when legends speak of political heavyweights, one woman will loom above all the others.

Posted by: Suck the hind tits Hillary and Pelosi at December 30, 2020 08:00 AM (wMu7a)

74 There's something fundamentally sick about a pseudo party that won't fight for the President that the base overwhelmingly favors. Can anyone imagine the commiecrats doing that?

--

It would never happen in the Crimmicrat Party. Did any of them ever oppose Obama for anything? And when and if they did, they got permission to do so up front just to keep their voters happy.

The GOP disgusts and sickens me on a level I can't even attach adequate words to.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:00 AM (O+I8R)

75 Exactly - I work with many such men in the trades. Like I said, I don't have the anti-Union reflex. Unions are like cops; a reflection of their community more than anything else. At least in the trades, I believe Trump won.
Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 07:57 AM (Y4WlI)


A lot of people tend to forget, because so many unions got mobbed up, that the guilds existed in part to guarantee a certain skill level for employers. A buddy of mine is a retired electrician who insisted to me that his union still ran a tight ship in that regard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:00 AM (y7DUB)

76 Abrams and her judge sister look like two bloated Tootsie Rolls. Lizzy, I'm sure she has very grandiose ideas about the GA governorship and the presidency. She's an extremely unlikable woman, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore in the Era of Approved Voter Fraud we now live in.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:02 AM (O+I8R)

77 >>In the future when legends speak of political heavyweights, one woman will loom above all the others.


. . . a choir of angels inner city school children wail in unison, the clouds dissipate, and behold -- our American savior is come!

https://tinyurl.com/y3wgl8sd


*See? Powerful backers -- look at who published this.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 08:03 AM (bDqIh)

78 Has Pence learned and/or changed after 4 years of being with Trump? We'll soon find out.

Posted by: Fortcoins at December 30, 2020 08:04 AM (nV60k)

79 I'm pro-union for folks who were keeping 10 year olds from working and others who were trying to get mineshafts to be tall enough to stand upright in.

I don't have much regard for the modern ones who protect drunks and incompetents.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:04 AM (ZLyax)

80 Buen dia queridas

At a loss for words this morning other than gratitude for JJ. Many happy returns buddy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2020 08:05 AM (EZebt)

81 I just don't have it in me to predict what Pence will do. It's a waste of time, really. I'm not hopeful, but that's mostly because we've been beaten to a bloody pulp in a wave of criminality for a long time and stood by waiting for somebody with the power to do so to do something about it. Only to be left standing there alone looking for the bandages.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:06 AM (O+I8R)

82 Put not your faith in Pence. He's an honorable man, but he's not going to take any historic steps. It's on us, the people.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 08:06 AM (e8tKz)

83 Pence is a milksop Judas and, in the clutch, will betray Trump for
his 30 pieces of "future political viability." Easiest prediction I've
ever made.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 07:46 AM (H8QX


And he'll probably lard it up with some sanctimonious pap about praying about it and God guiding him. We've had the Catholic collapse from Squealin' John Roberts, now it's time for the Evangelical flavor.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at December 30, 2020 08:06 AM (NB7mI)

84 "PDT hasn't given up, and neither should we. We owe him at least that much."

I haven't given up. It looks bleak, but I've seen bleak before and am still here.

Posted by: f'd at December 30, 2020 08:06 AM (wMu7a)

85 A lot of Republicans seem to have this idiotic idea that everything will return to normal, and that the old Bush Party will come back.


Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 30, 2020 07:35 AM (Msrhc)

^This. The tell was how early many of the "Conservative" pundits threw in the towel.

"Oh, well. We'll turn it around in 2022. Look at the demographics of the people coming to the Republican Party."

They have no idea. The voters voted for the Trump party. Not the Thom Tillis party.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 30, 2020 08:07 AM (XH/UL)

86 Watching F&F this morning and Steve Scalise was talking about the death of Luke Letlow and how they had been talking about what committees he would serve on. He was suppose to be sworn in on Sunday.
Flags with fly at half staff in Louisiana today.
RIP Luke.
F China.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2020 08:07 AM (NpAcC)

87 "And he'll probably lard it up with some sanctimonious pap about praying about it and God guiding him"

Works for me.

Posted by: Erik Errorickson at December 30, 2020 08:07 AM (wMu7a)

88 Didn't someone say that Pence is scheduled to fly overseas on the 6th?

Seems a weird thing to do if he were going to be doing something historic and important on that day.

And the Gomert lawsuit doesn't make sense to me unless they already know that Pence won't object to any part of this electoral nightmare.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 30, 2020 08:08 AM (T2vUn)

89 Anyway, evolutionarily, what would be the point of infecting a person so that they didn't sneeze, cough, or produce increased mucus that would infect other surfaces? That virus wouldn't last a month. Utter absurdity.

Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Evolution has its effects on both the virus and on humans. What makes some people asymptomatic in the first place? I assume it has something to do with an individual's genetics and autoimmune system. The virus doesn't have a mind of its own to run a DNA test before choosing its next victim. Whichever way the wind blows.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:09 AM (h9CJU)

90 "PDT hasn't given up, and neither should we. We owe him at least that much."

I haven't given up. It looks bleak, but I've seen bleak before and am still here.
Posted by: f'd at December 30, 2020 08:06 AM (wMu7a)


Same here. I'm cautiously optimistic on Pence. The only thing he's done sketchy imo was related to Flynn and that was based on the FBI liars conning him just like they did every fucking body else.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:09 AM (y7DUB)

91 Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:00 AM (y7DUB)

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This is one reason why I have no problem with trades unions. Working men have been helped by unions, even if they get stuck in their ways and sometimes make innovation harder.

But public employee unions are a whole nuther thing. Those aren't unions, to my way of thinking and I hate them all.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 08:09 AM (e8tKz)

92 Kamala will be coming to Georgia on Sunday and Joe Biden will be there on Monday to campaign.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2020 08:10 AM (NpAcC)

93 That will be our president. Karmella will be close, but she's not "black" so she doesn't really understand the cultural role she's supposed to play everywhere she goes.

Stacy does.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:36 AM (ZLyax)

===

Love you Robbie, but no. Kamala absolutely embraces being "Black" as much as Shaun King or any other race hustler.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2020 08:10 AM (EZebt)

94 Pence trip to Israel has been canceled.


https://tinyurl.com/yarqjowe

Posted by: WeBoned! at December 30, 2020 08:11 AM (8k7U7)

95
"Oh, well. We'll turn it around in 2022. Look at the demographics of the people coming to the Republican Party."

They have no idea.

--

If these "expert" pundits think this, and they do, they are dumber and more worthless that wings on a pig. They should turn in any "expert" credentials they have, because if they cannot reconcile the absolute Constitutional crisis we are in because of this 100% blatantly stolen election, their opinions are dirt, their brains addled and ignorant. Our Republic ends on Jan. 20th if this stands. It's that simple.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:11 AM (O+I8R)

96 I don't have much regard for the modern ones who protect drunks and incompetents.--------Is there a Horde union?

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 08:12 AM (sX1BW)

97 Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2020 08:07 AM (NpAcC)

==================
Of course, it's your decision but I hope you will find something else to watch and not watch FNC.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 08:12 AM (e8tKz)

98 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2020 08:12 AM (arJlL)

99 It's not an idiotic idea, at least not in terns of its probable success. The GOP fully intends to return to its vomit; most of that party would rather be in the minority than be Trumpian. And they probably will get away with doing so. Because every election is a Flight 93 election for conservatives. Or so many conservatives think. And between them and the establishment reptiles, the GOP has a good chance of going back to business as usual.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 30, 2020 08:12 AM (H5knJ)

100 It is a moronic day indeed
Thank you mr JJ
Great job as usual

What this I read I just saw 90grit appear
Is she scheduled to be a vp soon after kameltoe

Posted by: CarpetheadLarRo at December 30, 2020 08:12 AM (+ITg4)

101 Pence trip to Israel has been canceled.


https://tinyurl.com/yarqjowe
Posted by: WeBoned!

Interesting. Thank you for the update.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 30, 2020 08:13 AM (T2vUn)

102 And the Gomert lawsuit doesn't make sense to me unless they already know that Pence won't object to any part of this electoral nightmare.

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I hadn't thought about Gohmert's lawsuit like that. That's disconcerting, squeakywheel...

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:13 AM (O+I8R)

103 The GOP fully intends to return to its vomit; most of that party would rather be in the minority than be Trumpian.

It's more a case of the vomit returning to the dog.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at December 30, 2020 08:14 AM (NB7mI)

104 Can someone with more knowledge than I about the details of how the house and senate reconcile a bill help me out? I went looking to see how the two GA senators (and my own house rep) voted on the 2021 authorization bill. I'm looking at the timeline from this link:

https://tinyurl.com/ydx4wsxb

The house passed the bill on July 21. My rep voted against it.Then the senate passed it with amendments on Nov 16. Both GA senators voted against it.A conference committee was convened to reconcile the two version of the bill. Once completed, the 'conference report' is voted on by the house and the senate. Both GA senators and my rep voted FOR the conference report.
The thing I don't know is this: Is there some procedural reason for them to vote for the conference report? Or is voting for the conference report the same as voting for the final bill? My cynical side sees this as a way to vote for AND against something.

Posted by: Mob at December 30, 2020 08:14 AM (S8KeN)

105 Press even know who Becket is?
-------------------
Surely you jest.

The average American couldn't tell you almost anything about American history, let alone the British.

Most wouldn't understand the words let alone the history. 95% of humans are just blank stares with the ability to eat and reproduce.

Posted by: MJ at December 30, 2020 08:14 AM (gAMkn)

106 Lord, I'd rather refresh this page and see the back of my cat's a** than those two ugly blobs.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:14 AM (O+I8R)

107 94 Posted by: WeBoned! at December 30, 2020 08:11 AM (8k7U7)


Very interesting.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:14 AM (s2VJv)

108 Loleffler will be in Macon today. I'd like to go downtown and heckle her, but what's the point. She's going to get my vote one more time regardless of what she says and does. If she loses though she better not show her bony ass around here again unless she wants to know how I really feel.

Posted by: f'd at December 30, 2020 08:14 AM (wMu7a)

109 I have faith that Trump is still fighting.
The only ally of his I trust is Don Jr..
Maybe, possibly Flynn and Grenell.
Too many disappointments to think anyone but Trump has Trump's back.

What so many RINO squishs/alleged conservative writers and pundits fail to see is that Trump is the only one in power who has *America's* back. When they fail him, they fail at their job completely. I don't care if he's a little weird, he may be the only guy in DC not on a foreign country's payroll or Soros'. And really, that explains why they fail him -- and us so predictably.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 08:14 AM (bDqIh)

110 The factions have changed. There are now The Uniparty and The Governed. Our interests are at odds and cannot be reconciled.

The problem is that we, The Governed, do not actually have a political party that advances our agenda.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 30, 2020 07:37 AM (Msrhc)

Nope. I disagree with the "Uniparty" idea. There are a whole list of awful Democrat policies that even the most establishment GOPer would adamantly oppose. We should all greatly fear unchecked leftist rule.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 30, 2020 08:15 AM (700n7)

111 Interesting that Trump is honoring St. Thomas Beckett. I would not be surprised if he converts to Catholicism some time soon.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2020 08:15 AM (Izzlo)

112 102 And the Gomert lawsuit doesn't make sense to me unless they already know that Pence won't object to any part of this electoral nightmare.

--

I hadn't thought about Gohmert's lawsuit like that. That's disconcerting, squeakywheel...
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:13 AM (O+I8R)



My thought was the Gohmert suit was to give political cover for Pence to act accordingly. That said, it wold have to be litigated at light speed AND have the ruling in Gohmert's favor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:16 AM (s2VJv)

113 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2020 08:16 AM (tsZQ+)

114 Interesting. Thank you for the update.
Posted by: squeakywheel at December 30, 2020 08:13 AM (T2vUn)


No problem squeaky, an interesting week ahead.

Posted by: WeBoned! at December 30, 2020 08:16 AM (8k7U7)

115 Even that study link confirms it: "However, Cowling said, because asymptomatic people don't cough or sneeze, they might not be as efficient at spreading the virus as symptomatic people." Science is simple, folks. Don't make it complicated.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:57 AM (ZLyax)
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My point was that these opinions are not saying the same thing as Fauci said in January - Cowling included. Read on till the end (another 3 paragraphs from where you quoted). And not all science is simple.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:16 AM (h9CJU)

116 Happy New Year J-Stan !

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2020 08:17 AM (arJlL)

117 Pence has already argued against what Gohmert is trying to legally enjoin him to do. It's so pathetic and predictable. Let's all play out this stupid fait accompli on pretend tenterhooks.

https://tinyurl.com/y75ufprb

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:18 AM (H8QX8)

118 A song for the modern GOPe, from Stevie Winwood and Tom Petty: "I Can't Find My Way Home"


https://tinyurl.com/yd54wabd

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 08:18 AM (e8tKz)

119 Kamala absolutely embraces being "Black" as much as Shaun King or any other race hustler.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2020 08:10 AM (EZebt)


One thing the brainwash specialists in academia have polluted the minds of students with is that race is a social construct, which it is but not in the way the drones "understand" it. That produces the spectacle of lily white hosebags chanting black lives matter to 100% black cops with no sense of irony.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:19 AM (y7DUB)

120 Morning peeps.

Just wondering... Flynn was accused of lying to Pence once, a long time ago. At some point during Flynn's numerous hearings I think they may have patched things up. So, has Flynn and Pence had a sit down in the last couple of weeks? Flynn might just be the only person Pence would actually listen to. Maybe.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 30, 2020 08:19 AM (3H9h1)

121 Funny, isn't it, how no prominent Democrats have died of the wuhan. Almost as if the Democrat party cut a deal with the CCP and got an antidote in exchange for loosing the plague here.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 30, 2020 08:19 AM (19g6/)

122 Evolution has its effects on both the virus and on humans. What makes some people asymptomatic in the first place? I assume it has something to do with an individual's genetics and autoimmune system. The virus doesn't have a mind of its own to run a DNA test before choosing its next victim. Whichever way the wind blows.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:09 AM (h9CJU)

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Yep.

And it will die in the first host if it only has a 2% chance of spreading to another person from luck.

Again, it's absurd to believe asymptomatic people are spreading a respiratory virus. That's not science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:19 AM (ZLyax)

123 My thought was the Gohmert suit was to give political cover for Pence to act accordingly. That said, it wold have to be litigated at light speed AND have the ruling in Gohmert's favor.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:16 AM (s2VJv)
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Or it's all show to throw off the other side and Pence and Trump and Gohmert and others are in cahoots!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:20 AM (h9CJU)

124 @65

It's more than just external actors, the GA GOP has turned over the election apparatus to her and her group.


The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 30, 2020 08:20 AM (fqgRv)

125 Of course, it's your decision but I hope you will find something else to watch and not watch FNC.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 08:12 AM (e8tKz)
**********
I just watch the pro-Trump shows. Rachel Campos-Duffy is co-hosting F&F this week and I am a huge fan.
Plus I get to see all the pro-Trump Reps. calling out the fraud so I know who to support in the future.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2020 08:20 AM (NpAcC)

126 And it will die in the first host if it only has a 2% chance of spreading to another person from luck.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:19 AM (ZLyax)
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What is the source for your 2% figure?

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:22 AM (h9CJU)

127 36 Think of every incompetent, self-assured, hateful, obese black-culture woman you've ever gone to school with or worked around.

That will be our president. Karmella will be close, but she's not "black" so she doesn't really understand the cultural role she's supposed to play everywhere she goes.

Stacy does.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 07:36 AM (ZLyax)


Tank will become Kommie-La's VP. Kommie-La may tell her controllers, "Over my dead body!" Her controllers will tell her that's an acceptable outcome.

Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2020 08:22 AM (AMIL/)

128 One more disgrace to look for: Conservatives giving up on all fronts.

I don't just caving "accept that Biden won" shit. That is here.

What I am looking for next is increasing numbers joining the Official Democrat Line that little cheating occurred, that to think otherwise is to engage in a crazy conspiracy theory, and that expressing such notions removes one from respectable company.

In other words, for those who did not become Never Trump to do so now. Makes me suspect that they waited this long because they didn't have the balls to do it either. Reflect on that. Being a greater coward than Jonah Goldberg.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 08:22 AM (7X3UV)

129 Pence has already argued against what Gohmert is trying to legally enjoin him to do. It's so pathetic and predictable. Let's all play out this stupid fait accompli on pretend tenterhooks.

https://tinyurl.com/y75ufprb

--

Emerald Robinson isn't expecting Pence to do the right thing either. I know that link is to the GP, but geez. It doesn't instill me with any confidence. Good thing I'm used to it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:22 AM (O+I8R)

130 The evidence of fraud is overwhelming and specific.

And every court has ignored it, saying, "that's not enough."

There is no amount of evidence that will change that.

So: Whoever is advising Trump to abide by the courts is a traitor; trying to run out the clock in behalf of the communists.

This is about power.
The Dems took it through cheating.
You don't get it back by asking: You take it!

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (aO8Gd)

131 Flynn was accused of lying to Pence once, a long time ago.
=====

To provide cover for the GOPee undermining PDJT.

Pence allowed himself to be used.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (MIKMs)

132 Jeez, so what are the new rules about "your message looks like spam"?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (ZLyax)

133 "Someone needs to decide to have a backbone on January 6." (Tuberville? Cotton? Hawley? Cruz? Paul? - jjs)
_________

Bueller.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (7X3UV)

134 That produces the spectacle of lily white hosebags chanting black lives matter to 100% black cops with no sense of irony.
Posted by: Captain Hate

I saw The Lily-White Hosebags open for The Butt Sisters !

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (arJlL)

135 Love you Robbie, but no. Kamala absolutely embraces being "Black" as much as Shaun King or any other race hustler.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2020 08:10 AM (EZebt)

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Yeah, that was my point. They are actors wearing blackface performing a show according to a script.

Stacy is the real f*cking deal.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:24 AM (ZLyax)

136 >>>Of course, it's your decision but I hope you will find something else to watch and not watch FNC.


Yep. If you're still watching Fox News, you're part of the problem. Furthermore, if you're still using FaceBook and/or Twitter, you're part of the problem. If Google is still your search engine, you're part of the problem. If you're still watching the NFL, NBA, NASCAR et al, you're part of the problem. I could go on, of course.

Posted by: fly at December 30, 2020 08:25 AM (c1sSU)

137 I'm pro-union for folks who were keeping 10 year olds from working and others who were trying to get mineshafts to be tall enough to stand upright in.

I don't have much regard for the modern ones who protect drunks and incompetents.


Modern unions barely even do that, the leaders just collect dues and swim around in pools full of money like Scrooge McDuck.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:25 AM (6XLoz)

138 One thing the brainwash specialists in academia have polluted the minds of students with is that race is a social construct, which it is but not in the way the drones "understand" it. That produces the spectacle of lily white hosebags chanting black lives matter to 100% black cops with no sense of irony.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:19 AM (y7DUB)

===

She explained to me personally, educated me about "one drop" of Black blood making one Black.

And that even though that applies to me, I "pass" because of my appearance.

Also I was not capable of understanding this because I am a racist.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2020 08:25 AM (EZebt)

139 It's incredible that we might - MAYBE - have a chance to have one senator step up and say "STOP!" only because it's a senator that hasn't been to cocktail parties in DC yet.

Cruz? Where are you, friend?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:25 AM (ZLyax)

140 It's more than just external actors, the GA GOP has turned over the election apparatus to her and her group.

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It's no lie to emphatically state that Kemp and Rattswhatshisname have knowingly turned over their state to Abrams and their Crimmicrat fraud operations. Fully. Totally. They are the reason she and her co-criminals have gotten away with it. It's truly, amazingly unbelievable.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:25 AM (O+I8R)

141 Wondering if Bernie is going to filibuster the defense bill?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2020 08:25 AM (s9hWT)

142 I never realized it before, but 'Lawrence of Arabia' is basically a 'race is a social concept' movie, with Lawrence trying to out-Arab the Arabs. Or, as SCTV put it,

My coat is red,My trousers are blue,But I'm more ArabThan any of you! HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at December 30, 2020 08:26 AM (NB7mI)

143 So: Whoever is advising Trump to abide by the courts is a traitor; trying to run out the clock in behalf of the communists.

This is about power.
The Dems took it through cheating.
You don't get it back by asking: You take it!
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (aO8Gd)



As true as truth can be. (Reminds me of the scene in Godfather when Vito tells Michael how the traitor will reveal himself. If Trump can't see this then he's not the executive I thought he was.)

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:26 AM (H8QX8)

144 The evidence of fraud is overwhelming and specific.
And every court has ignored it, saying, "that's not enough."
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (aO8Gd)
~~~~~

Not true. No court has examined any evidence as yet. They have dismissed the cases on standing and other procedural issues.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 30, 2020 08:26 AM (sGotD)

145 Yep. If you're still watching Fox News, you're part of the problem. Furthermore, if you're still using FaceBook and/or Twitter, you're part of the problem. If Google is still your search engine, you're part of the problem. If you're still watching the NFL, NBA, NASCAR et al, you're part of the problem. I could go on, of course.
Posted by: fly

Well unfortunately, you can't do much of anything these days or else you're still part of the problem. I still give money to the Catholic Church, yet even THAT is now a problem.

Posted by: BacktoGA at December 30, 2020 08:27 AM (MPYWI)

146 Edward Pence wants the heavy lifting given over to Pence. Pence doesn't want to do heavy lifting.

Gohmert's lawyers talked to Pence's lawyers about this and they/Pence balked.

That's why Gohmert is suing Pence.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 08:27 AM (CZm2G)

147 Firing Flynn was a gigantic mistake, and I think that one is on Pence.


I wonder if Flynn hadn't been fired and thereby given political strength to the "Russia Hoax", if instead he continued as National Security Advisor, how would the last four years coup attempt have unfolded....

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 08:27 AM (e8tKz)

148 132 Jeez, so what are the new rules about "your message looks like spam"?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (ZLyax)
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I paste/compose the messages in an ASCII text editor. I also remove most blank lines and repeating characters. Less paragraphs seems to help, too.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:27 AM (h9CJU)

149 @135

Well I thought Tank was going to be the VP pick back in March.

I guess they needed her to be the Democrat Neidermeier and always had plans to back door VP her once old Joe is sent off to the glue factory.


Can you fucking imagine CommieLA and Tank as Pres and VP.

JFC, i'm scaring myself now with this level of cynicism.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 30, 2020 08:28 AM (fqgRv)

150 Emerald Robinson isn't expecting Pence to do the right thing either. I
know that link is to the GP, but geez. It doesn't instill me with any
confidence. Good thing I'm used to it.---------------------------------------------Pence is likely not to do anything. Sort of out of character for such a low key politician. But maybe that makes him the perfect one to do it. Fortune favors the bold! But I wouldn't bet much.

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 08:28 AM (sX1BW)

151 142 I never realized it before, but 'Lawrence of Arabia' is basically a 'race is a social concept' movie, with Lawrence trying to out-Arab the Arabs.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at December 30, 2020 08:26 AM (NB7mI)


Great observation.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:28 AM (H8QX8)

152 To help break up the stress and tension of the presidential election fraud, here is something a little funny and light hearted on youtube. SFW

https://tinyurl.com/ya2wxdm9

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 30, 2020 08:28 AM (D3cJf)

153 If you're still watching Fox News, you're part of the problem. Furthermore, if you're still using FaceBook and/or Twitter, you're part of the problem. If Google is still your search engine, you're part of the problem. If you're still watching the NFL, NBA, NASCAR et al, you're part of the problem. I could go on, of course.

Andrew Breitbart argued that we lose because we keep ceding things to the Left. And he's been proven right at this point. Nobody pushed back on corporate wokification back when it was still possible to do so, so now nearly all of American large business is a Leftist institution.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:29 AM (6XLoz)

154 In other words, for those who did not become Never Trump to do so now. Makes me suspect that they waited this long because they didn't have the balls to do it either. Reflect on that. Being a greater coward than Jonah Goldberg.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 08:22 AM (7X3UV)


That would be really dumb. Trump was popular because he was a great President in terms of honoring his promises in everything except cutting spending, which he said he would address in his second term. And everything he did worked. We aren't at war anywhere and unprecedented agreements are happening in the Middle East. It was only this fake pandemic, shilled for by obvious derp state frauds like that dago fuck Fauci, that gummed up the works.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:30 AM (y7DUB)

155 https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/17/pence-to-head...

Pence to head overseas Jan. 6 hours after formally declaring Biden the presidential victor Published Thu, Dec 17 2020 11:00 AM EST Updated Thu, Dec 17 2020 ...

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 08:30 AM (CZm2G)

156 And it will die in the first host if it only has a 2% chance of spreading to another person from luck.
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What is the source for your 2% figure?

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:22 AM (h9CJU)

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It was an arbitrary example for the discussion on an unnamed respiratory virus and evolution. Hint: See the part about luck? See also the part about an unnamed respiratory virus. Or your own "Whichever way the wind blows."

Again, science is simple. Don't make it complicated.

It's anti-science and utterly absurd to believe asymptomatic people are driving any spread of a respiratory virus.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:30 AM (ZLyax)

157 Cruz? Where are you, friend?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:25 AM (ZLyax)
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If I were that Senator, I would shut my mouth until working hours on January 6th. Here's hoping!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:30 AM (h9CJU)

158 I think that "going native," a not uncommon phenomenon, is not necessarily they same thing as embracing race as a social construct.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 30, 2020 08:30 AM (H5knJ)

159 153 If you're still watching Fox News, you're part of the problem. Furthermore, if you're still using FaceBook and/or Twitter, you're part of the problem. If Google is still your search engine, you're part of the problem. If you're still watching the NFL, NBA, NASCAR et al, you're part of the problem. I could go on, of course.
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Evidently I'm not part of the problem. I'm a little cheered up.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:31 AM (H8QX8)

160 For the record, I'm fine with anti-science religious beliefs, but leave your religion out of politics.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:31 AM (ZLyax)

161 "Any challenge attempt would tie the hands of Vice President Mike Pence."
GOP Congressional Challenges to Electors Would be a Catastrophic Tactical Mistake
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I find that article unconvincing. Note that it cites only an AP story on how the process works. Not any actual legal or constitutional history. The article doesn't even address the matter of the VP's role.

I note that the author has no bio attached, and his name, Edward Davis, produces too many hits for a search. (I'm assuming he's not the buccaneer.)

That makes it look like he came up with it after reading the AP, and taking it at face value.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 08:31 AM (7X3UV)

162 Jeez, so what are the new rules about "your message looks like spam"?

One thing that seems to gum up my posts is including a live link. I was quoting a poster above, and accidentally included the number of the post, which was blue with a line under it, meaning it was a live link. Once I eliminated that, the post went through fine. It also happens when I copy and paste something, and somehow I must be including some of the composing stuff that's behind it. If I delete that, then just copy out the text myself, it goes through.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at December 30, 2020 08:31 AM (NB7mI)

163 "GOP congressional challenges to electors would be a catastrophic tactical mistake"
I read the article... so now what?
They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2020 08:32 AM (NpAcC)

164 Pence can either take the power back--our power, the people-- or he can slink off like a coward.

No judge is going to rule in our favor. The Dems buy and sell them like trading cards--a favor for a family member here by a related entity there launders the corruption; that's for the "conservative" judges.
The liberal judges don't even bother hiding it anymore.

But Pence will fail us. When Trump's lead counsel weasels away from direct action casting about for "precedent" to justify, we are lost of leadership

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 30, 2020 08:32 AM (aO8Gd)

165 WaPo makes it sound like Mike Pence is going into exile.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 08:32 AM (bCLt0)

166 hahaha, it would be fun to try and find the actual percentage of asymptomatic spread of a respiratory virus prior to 2019.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:32 AM (ZLyax)

167 Now that Trump is honoring Becket's "follow God" anti-government last words, can we expect David French to condemn Becket as "not a true Christian"?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 08:32 AM (e8tKz)

168 Who is going to be our John Adams?

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 08:34 AM (sX1BW)

169 You know, I'm willing to bet a $20 donation to the HQ that there were no meaningful studies of asymptomatic spread of respiratory viruses to look for because science of the last 100 years had shown it's at best negligible and at worst essentially non-existent.

There are probably footnotes pointing to information about why the numbers weren't studied, but not much else.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:35 AM (ZLyax)

170 It's anti-science and utterly absurd to believe asymptomatic people are driving any spread of a respiratory virus.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:30 AM (ZLyax)
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If you look at the section of the article with the sub-headline DISCUSSION, the implication is otherwise. I don't know if it's 1%, 2% or 30% but I think both of us really don't know. So either the science isn't proven or we need a relaible scientific reference. In any case, this article implies that it is not as negligible as 2% would be.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:35 AM (h9CJU)

171 If you like Prometheus you're part of the problem.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 08:35 AM (bCLt0)

172 Who is going to be our John Adams?


Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 08:34 AM (sX1BW)

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Are there some British soldiers in need of a lawyer?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 30, 2020 08:36 AM (e8tKz)

173
Even if Congress or Pence does the right thing and restores the victory to Trump, our system is so thoroughly corrupted, and an entire swathe of our country is a de-facto enemy alien entity that our political system cannot go on as before.

Not unless and until the Democrat Party and everything it has corrupted has been neutralized.

And that is a very big nut to crack.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:36 AM (s2VJv)

174 WaPo makes it sound like Mike Pence is going into exile.
Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 08:32 AM (bCLt0)


Jen Rubin must be consulting with her cats.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:37 AM (y7DUB)

175 Good morning. I haz completed the snow plowing.

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 30, 2020 08:37 AM (s0pjO)

176 168 Who is going to be our John Adams?
Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 08:34 AM (sX1BW)


I was thinking Augusto Pinochet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:37 AM (s2VJv)

177 In a safely padded, feminized and neutered Equiterra, the sword-wielding barbarian will lay waste to their hubris.

Posted by: Rogue Space Herpe at December 30, 2020 08:37 AM (VLvdd)

178 If No Partition (Yet), What's Plan B? A "Shadow" Trump Presidency
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I like that. Note that such an organization would be unlikely to draw the remoras who have always vexed us.

I've also always liked the Brit system there, as it makes less likely the two years of jerking off that Paul Ryan gave us.

And besides, my Jacobite side loves the idea of a legitimate claimant. Toast the President over the water.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 08:37 AM (7X3UV)

179 Nobody pushed back on corporate wokification back when it was still possible to do so, so now nearly all of American large business is a Leftist institution.

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Which point always makes me laugh when stupid leftists and Crimmicrat voters say that Republicans are the "party of the rich."

Oh, really? Who, exactly, are the rich set in America? Let's do indeed list them all out. And then let us compare who is a Crimmicrat and who is a Republican...and who is extremely wealthy and who is much less so. Too bad they're all too stupid to see it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:38 AM (O+I8R)

180 177 In a safely padded, feminized and neutered Equiterra, the sword-wielding barbarian will lay waste to their hubris.
Posted by: Rogue Space Herpe at December 30, 2020 08:37 AM (VLvdd)


Or pubis...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:38 AM (s2VJv)

181 If you look at the section of the article with the sub-headline DISCUSSION, the implication is otherwise. I don't know if it's 1%, 2% or 30% but I think both of us really don't know. So either the science isn't proven or we need a relaible scientific reference. In any case, this article implies that it is not as negligible as 2% would be.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:35 AM (h9CJU)

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You're 100% correct, and when you don't know, you defer to the known science until the NEW science proves it wrong.

It's not the responsibility of the established science to bow to the hypothesis. It's the job of the hypothesis to show why its should be accepted as the new accepted norm.

That's science.

That's literally how science works.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:38 AM (ZLyax)

182 hahaha, it would be fun to try and find the actual percentage of asymptomatic spread of a respiratory virus prior to 2019.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:32 AM (ZLyax)
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Indeed. But the conclusion of your sarcasm is that the science isn't settled, Perhaps we really don't know, for good or for bad.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:39 AM (h9CJU)

183 173

Not unless and until the Democrat Party and everything it has corrupted has been neutralized.

And that is a very big nut to crack.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:36 AM (s2VJv)

Yes. Government and Corporations have merged now. There is no courrt of appeal left for the common citizen.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 08:39 AM (bCLt0)

184 Not true. No court has examined any evidence as yet. They have dismissed the cases on standing and other procedural issues.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 30, 2020 08:26 AM (sGotD)

I'd also like to point out that the Trump campaign has done a less than adequate job of communicating and explaining how the fraud happened. Only highly engaged folks like ourselves know about the details from watching the state hearings and deep dives from sources such as Richard Baris' podcasts. The media was never going to be curious about the allegations, and have actively covered for the Biden campaign (of course!). Hindsight's 20/20 but the campaign should've funded a sophisticated media campaign to drive home the facts of the election irregularities.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 30, 2020 08:39 AM (700n7)

185
Not unless and until the Democrat Party and everything it has corrupted has been neutralized.

And that is a very big nut to crack.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:36 AM (s2VJv)
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One thing at a time.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 08:39 AM (CZm2G)

186 A lot of Republicans seem to have this idiotic idea that everything will return to normal, and that the old Bush Party will come back.

I'll take that bet. We already have people here arguing that Georgians must vote for Perdue and Loeffler because "the Senate!" Why shouldn't the GOP see Trump as just a bump in the road?

2024 will have some dumb-ass tomato can GOP stooge for Harris to beat and people here and throughout the party will be exhorting us to get out and vote because it's the most important election of our lifetime.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2020 08:40 AM (2JVJo)

187 >> Love you Robbie, but no. Kamala absolutely embraces being "Black" as much as Shaun King or any other race hustler.


Have you seen the memes based on her silly 'fond memories of celebrating Kwanzaa as a kid' tweet?

So perfect: https://tinyurl.com/y7sbg5ps

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 08:40 AM (bDqIh)

188 Why is it absurd to think that someone who does not succumb to a disease or ailment could nonetheless be a carrier?

I have no opinion. I've given up on trying to rationally understand and discuss Covid in particular. But more generally why is it absurd? I'm asking, not making an argument by implication.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 30, 2020 08:40 AM (H5knJ)

189 178 If No Partition (Yet), What's Plan B? A "Shadow" Trump Presidency

Trump becomes the president of all the states that sued and were denied standing due to fraud determining the overall president. Then we all move to Texas.

Posted by: BacktoGA at December 30, 2020 08:41 AM (MPYWI)

190 Indeed. But the conclusion of your sarcasm is that the science isn't settled, Perhaps we really don't know, for good or for bad.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:39 AM (h9CJU)

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I'm not sure you follow.

The science has been settled since respiratory viruses were beginning to be understood.

Anything else is religious belief.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:41 AM (ZLyax)

191 I'd also like to point out that the Trump campaign has done a less than
adequate job of communicating and explaining how the fraud happened ........ The media was never going to be curious about the
allegations________________________________The latter sort of precludes the former.

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 08:41 AM (sX1BW)

192 That's literally how science works.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:38 AM (ZLyax)


True dat, except Climate Science which adheres to no part of the scientific method.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (y7DUB)

193 You're 100% correct, and when you don't know, you defer to the known science until the NEW science proves it wrong. It's not the responsibility of the established science to bow to the hypothesis. It's the job of the hypothesis to show why its should be accepted as the new accepted norm. That's science. That's literally how science works.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:38 AM (ZLyax)
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Then you have no doubts about what Fauci stated back in January and you are serious about the link in the picture? OK. The problem is that I think the folks in the Advisory.com article are scientists, too. Sometimes - actually, many times, science says we really don't know (yet).

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (h9CJU)

194 I'll take that bet. We already have people here arguing that Georgians must vote for Perdue and Loeffler because "the Senate!"

That's not the argument being made. If Loeffler and Perdue lose, there is a 100% chance of Venezuela before the end of 2021. If they win, the stuff AOC and friends want to do that the Chamber of Commerce actually opposes will get blocked (Green Nude Eel, etc).

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (6XLoz)

195 Why is it absurd to think that someone who does not succumb to a disease or ailment could nonetheless be a carrier?

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They can certainly carry it. No one is arguing that.

See #64 for the start of what has already been discussed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (ZLyax)

196 According to the Democrat Controlled courts, nobody has standing to sue for electoral fraud.

Not a single case has been examined for materiality.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (VpIIl)

197 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:36 AM (s2VJv)


I believe Trump is reconciling himself to the idea that his greatest service is to expose the Left and the treachery that surrounds us as best he can and to let the system he loves and believes in make the corrections in their own way, over time and through the people.

He will not invoke the Insurrection Act and or attempt any radical intervention or interruption of the process beyond exhausting his legal options.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:44 AM (H8QX8)

198 Total Number of Antigen Tests Reported (included in total test numbers) 1,144,302
Number of Positive Antigen Tests Reported 96,754 8.46%

Molecular Test Positive rates last 7 days:
17.15%
16.53%
16.57%
16.19%
15.85%
15.49%
15.15%

So the PCR test is finding a RNA strand that is in 1 out of 6 people. But only 1 out of 12 actually respond to the virus as a disease.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 08:44 AM (5QBw6)

199 Meant to say "link in your signature."

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:44 AM (h9CJU)

200 Sometimes - actually, many times, science says we really don't know (yet).

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (h9CJU)

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Again, you are 100% correct.

Believing things outside of that is religion.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:44 AM (ZLyax)

201 191 - The WH could put out a one-pager on each of the disputed states. Press won't care. But giving talking points to your followers to argue with folks online and in daily life is SOP. Ever notice how the press or Twitter people always seems to mysteriously start making the same points simultaneously. Not happening by accident.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 30, 2020 08:45 AM (H5knJ)

202 Yes, the COVID Disease vectors are a legion of invisible men. The type of which we've never seen before. Ever.

Sure. Keep moving those goalposts.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:46 AM (VpIIl)

203 Not unless and until the Democrat Party and everything it has corrupted has been neutralized.

And that is a very big nut to crack.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Have the U.S. Marshalls sit slo-Joe on an uncomfortable stool with a light shining in his eyes, (all alone, no handlers, no Dr. Jill) and ask him to explain that voter fraud comment and make it clear that he's not leaving until he answers to their satisfaction.

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2020 08:46 AM (arJlL)

204 With a nod towards the great Milton Friedman PBUH, will the weight of history compel the wrong man (or at best perhaps the unlikely man) to do the right thing?

Yes!

If the weight of history has a few billion Chinese dollars to throw at the wrong/unlikely man.

Posted by: Zombie Milton Friedman at December 30, 2020 08:46 AM (dWwl8)

205 True dat, except Climate Science which adheres to no part of the scientific method.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (y7DUB)

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Yep. That's been a HUGE driver of the religious approach to Scientism.

If your hypothesis fails, you can't continue to adhere to that hypothesis just because you like it.

Failed is failed. Start over.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:47 AM (ZLyax)

206 Is it too late to have pence resign and appoint Cruz as VP?

Or Trump resigns, Pence names Trump as VP, Trump refuses the contested electors, pence resigns and trump names pence VP.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 30, 2020 08:47 AM (25aKC)

207 That's not the argument being made. If Loeffler and Perdue lose, there is a 100% chance of Venezuela before the end of 2021. If they win, the stuff AOC and friends want to do that the Chamber of Commerce actually opposes will get blocked (Green Nude Eel, etc).
Posted by: Ian S

And if they don't lose, then by 2022.

Posted by: BacktoGA at December 30, 2020 08:47 AM (MPYWI)

208 Sometimes - actually, many times, science says we really don't know (yet).

Which is why saying "the science is settled" actually means you hate science.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:48 AM (6XLoz)

209 All things considered, I tend to believe anecdotal stories about the Rona over Media dispatches.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 08:48 AM (bCLt0)

210 >>Firing Flynn was a gigantic mistake, and I think that one is on Pence.


Recall that there was at least one deep state plant on Pence's transition team -- the guy (cheif of staff?) whose wife worked for Strzok. How many others were part of the transition team, either RNC backstabbers or deep state plants, who pressured the dumping of Flynn and so many other bad picks while Trump was distracted with the MSM leaking something big every day?

There were so many parts to this coup, I have no doubt there are aspects that have not yet been revealed (and may never be). Not letting Pence off the hook here, just wondering if a trusted aide of his advised him to do what the deep state wanted.

Geez, I sound like a bad 80's cold war novel/uber-pessimist! Have a good day, all, time to get coffee and do laundry.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 30, 2020 08:48 AM (bDqIh)

211 173
Even if Congress or Pence does the right thing and restores the victory to Trump, our system is so thoroughly corrupted, and an entire swathe of our country is a de-facto enemy alien entity that our political system cannot go on as before.

Not unless and until the Democrat Party and everything it has corrupted has been neutralized.

And that is a very big nut to crack.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:36 AM (s2VJv)


If Pence does what is recommended above and thereby sends the election to the House (Prez) and Senate (VP), it may ignite Civil War 2. This is the risk that I believe will stop Pence from stepping-in. I hope he does throw out the EV's from GA, PA, etc., and declares, "Damn the torpedoes!" We should get a CW2 started now rather than later.

Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2020 08:49 AM (AMIL/)

212
"Or Trump resigns, Pence names Trump as VP, Trump refuses the contested electors, pence resigns and trump names pence VP.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy"
Damn I like this idea. Presidential musical chairs. What will be the theme song?

Posted by: f'd at December 30, 2020 08:49 AM (+y8uL)

213 If Loeffler and Perdue lose, there is a 100% chance of Venezuela before the end of 2021. If they win, the stuff AOC and friends want to do that the Chamber of Commerce actually opposes will get blocked (Green Nude Eel, etc).
Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (6XLoz)


Loeffler and Perdue won't even say boo over an obviously stolen election, but I am to believe they'll put the brakes on whatever lunatic diktat the Dems come up with?

Sorry, no believe.

Anyway, I'm depressed enough for now, I'm not going to go full-on despair as I did yesterday. See you all for the Solomonic Simian.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2020 08:49 AM (2JVJo)

214 Or Trump resigns, Pence names Trump as VP, Trump refuses the contested electors, pence resigns and trump names pence VP.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 30, 2020 08:47 AM (25aKC)


I like it. It's all Calvinball now anyway.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:49 AM (H8QX8)

215 Not blaming Pence. Good men often disappoint .
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And notorious orange people do historically great , mighty and courageous acts(Trump)....IOW you never really know about people until shots are fired.

Some shirk. Some go forward.....have seen it and it is a shock as to who stays and who goes.

This situation requires absolutely the greatest of courage. We may very well not know, even at this point, who is going to do what.

Posted by: Voter theater. at December 30, 2020 08:49 AM (xXx5y)

216 The WH could put out a one-pager on each of the disputed states.
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And who will report this information? The shadow bans and literal bans are working overtime. PDJT (and supporters) has been blocked from his endrun around media mainstream.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 30, 2020 08:49 AM (MIKMs)

217 211 Does anyone with any testosterone in their system believe a particle of the drivel from the culturally sensitive affirmative action selections in GA?
Posted by: Clean Underwear When I wear It

Kelly Loefler is the epitome of a disconnect rich person that will use the office to further enrich herself at the expense of all GA workers.

Posted by: BacktoGA at December 30, 2020 08:50 AM (MPYWI)

218 I agree. He should have been supported -- against a post, and shot for sedition, treason and felonious impersonation of a bearclaw.
WATCH: Vindman Says the Military Hasn't Properly Supported Him After He Testified Against Trump
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I prefer suspended from a rope.

You know, when Adm Byng was shot ("to encourage the others") the final penalty was an act of respect. His serious enemies wanted him hanged like a mutineer. Shot on the quarterdeck was a more respectable death. Societies which rank honor highly care about stuff like that.

And, BTW, according to many, including N A M Rodger, it actually DID encourage the others.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 08:50 AM (7X3UV)

219 Sure. Keep moving those goalposts.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:46 AM (VpIIl)
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I know doctors both in the US and in the UK. They all said that something was certainly going on at the start of 2020. The same people are telling me it's happening again in the UK.
https://youtu.be/rfQzbB14L3U

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:50 AM (h9CJU)

220 The Democrat Party needs to be beat to death with a pillow case full of soap bars.

People don't understand they are already moving onto the next attack on our republic. They are looking at this elections fraud and trying to improve on it. They need to be incapacitated in the most horrific, public way.


No help is coming. The courts and Congress are cowards and collaborators.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:50 AM (VpIIl)

221 All things considered, I tend to believe anecdotal stories about the Rona over Media dispatches.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 08:48 AM (bCLt0)

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Yeah, it's probably hard to continue to push the notion that there's a super deadly pandemic occurring when people don't know anyone who died because of it and obese folks are still scooting around the Twinkie aisle of the Walmart with their oxygen tanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:51 AM (ZLyax)

222 True dat, except Climate Science which adheres to no part of the scientific method.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (y7DUB)

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Yep. That's been a HUGE driver of the religious approach to Scientism.

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I saw a guy on a show the other day. His job description/title was "Science Communicator." I had to laugh. WTH? Then it came to me that his mission is to "explain" this religion of science (leftism attached to the field of science disguised to push its agenda) to unsuspecting dummies willing to lap it up.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:51 AM (O+I8R)

223 We will not be Venezuela by the end of 2021. It will take at least 2, maybe 3 years to get there.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 08:51 AM (bCLt0)

224 If your hypothesis fails, you can't continue to adhere to that hypothesis just because you like it.

Failed is failed. Start over.


The new scientific method: Form a hypothesis, find a bunch of scientists who agree with your hypothesis, generate a computer model that supports your hypothesis, get government funding to gather actual data, claim more research is needed because the hypothesis could be catastrophic if true, get government funding to continue research, repeat as necessary.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 30, 2020 08:52 AM (25aKC)

225 Yeah, it's probably hard to continue to push the notion that there's a super deadly pandemic occurring when people don't know anyone who died because of it and obese folks are still scooting around the Twinkie aisle of the Walmart with their oxygen tanks.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector

And their YUGE assflaps almost touching the ground !

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2020 08:52 AM (arJlL)

226 Or Trump resigns, Pence names Trump as VP, Trump refuses the contested electors, pence resigns and trump names pence VP.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 30, 2020 08:47 AM (25aKC)


Would not be surprised if you are right.
We are in classic Black/White Swan territory.

Posted by: Voter theater. at December 30, 2020 08:52 AM (xXx5y)

227 Our stimulus checks are sitting in the bank showing they will be deposited on New Years day.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at December 30, 2020 08:52 AM (JUOKG)

228 I'm still a tad unclear on how a super contagious virus was running rampant through a major international trade city in November but it waited until February to reach the US even though 10K people were flying back and forth to China every week.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:52 AM (ZLyax)

229 Which is why saying "the science is settled" actually means you hate science.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:48 AM (6XLoz)
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That's a stretch. Many scientific facts are quite settled. But if you're talking about Corona, what you said seems to be true way too much.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:53 AM (h9CJU)

230 Loeffler and Perdue won't even say boo over an obviously stolen election, but I am to believe they'll put the brakes on whatever lunatic diktat the Dems come up with?

Still not the argument being made. People ceding that you're right and they're GOPe/CoC zombies. But there's still a fair amount of the Dem agenda that GOPe/CoC opposes.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:53 AM (6XLoz)

231 There is nothing unusual about what is happening with COVID. It is proceeding along the known path of similar viruses. The big focus was on lethality and the fact we didn't have "proven" treatments or vaccines. We have both now and COVID is nothing more than another virus. Period. Full stop. We have never gone to this length with the suspension of liberties and rights because it was not needed and isn't now.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:54 AM (VpIIl)

232 Pence will save us! Just like Rudy did, and Lin Wood, and Sydney with her fabled Kraken.
Face it, Pence is going to count the votes on Jan 6th, declare Slow Joe to be the President Elect, then slink on off to wherever his exile will be.

Posted by: Manny Moe at December 30, 2020 08:54 AM (Eu66Q)

233 Re: The Abrams Sisters

I can't get too outraged about what the judge did. To me, bringing that suit before her was more Failure Theater.

If our side was serious, we'd take a couple of those 4000 voters and prosecute them for voter fraud.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 30, 2020 08:54 AM (4tiP2)

234 "Trump also objected to provisions in the bill seeking to rename military bases currently named after Confederate figures."
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We should have used this crap against them. Cape Canaveral, Idlewild, and God knows how many Robert Byrd Memorial Toilets need to be renamed.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 08:54 AM (7X3UV)

235 Sad, but accurate, meme I just saw over at Mooch's Mirror:

"Remember when we didn't have $5billion to build a wall? Now we've got $700+billion to give to other countries."

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 08:54 AM (O+I8R)

236
Eh.

At this point, the question simply is -

is there anyone who has power along with the courage to side with the majority of Americans to save America legally, Constitutionally, and with relative ease,

or is Chinese/Democrat money so enticing that it's so much more satisfying and personally enriching to let America turn into a Chinese Satrapy or Civil War riven Third World Shit-state?

Place your bets ladies and gentlemen!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 30, 2020 08:55 AM (dWwl8)

237 216 - I think I was pretty clear. It gets disseminated the same way all conservative talking points do: outside the mainstream press. If your excuse is going to be "we can't do ordinary politics, press won't let us." then you are always going to lose the PR war, which is what politics outside the courts is.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 30, 2020 08:55 AM (H5knJ)

238 The new scientific method: Form a hypothesis, find a bunch of scientists who agree with your hypothesis, generate a computer model that supports your hypothesis, get government funding to gather actual data, claim more research is needed because the hypothesis could be catastrophic if true, get government funding to continue research, repeat as necessary.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 30, 2020 08:52 AM (25aKC)

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Yep. It's heartbreaking, too.

It's also heartbreaking that so many adults don't understand how simple science is. 7th grade level stuff taught them every single thing they need to know about how to approach ANYTHING scientifically, but we as a society have formed a religion around it and bow to holy men instead.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:55 AM (ZLyax)

239 Corona: 6 Billion dead people can't be wrong.

Time to shovel the bodies off the porch, again. Can't something be done?

Posted by: klaftern at December 30, 2020 08:56 AM (RuIsu)

240 Must get back to work. Hopes up!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:56 AM (h9CJU)

241 Did I miss the explanation of just how Covid is transmitted or has it not been defined yet?

It's very unclear just how, among the hysteria about total cases etc., how you go about being infected.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 30, 2020 08:56 AM (KATBx)

242 The science is settled the same way votes are.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:56 AM (ZLyax)

243 Reasonable people would generally yield to science because the methods were sound and proven. The climate boondoggle and COVID largely put a stake in the heart of science because of obvious manipulation and integrity issues even the most pedestrian citizen could see.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:56 AM (VpIIl)

244 The new scientific method: Form a hypothesis, find a bunch of scientists who agree with your hypothesis, generate a computer model that supports your hypothesis, get government funding to gather actual data, claim more research is needed because the hypothesis could be catastrophic if true, get government funding to continue research, repeat as necessary.

What's funny about this is that for climate scientology, the computer models have always generated a range of possible outcomes, and the climate scientologists have always cherry-picked the extreme results. There are model runs from the late 80s when this started happening that do match what has actually happened (basically nothing). But those results were largely suppressed.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:57 AM (6XLoz)

245 They need to be incapacitated in the most horrific, public way.
No help is coming. The courts and Congress are cowards and collaborators.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:50 AM (VpIIl)

Pithy truth. Why I come here.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:57 AM (H8QX8)

246 Also, apparently a GOP Congressman-elect died of Covid overnight and the Twitter lefties are doing the mother of all end zone dances.

Actual quote: "He's from the party that wants us all to die, so this is hilarious".

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:58 AM (6XLoz)

247 228 I'm still a tad unclear on how a super contagious virus was running rampant through a major international trade city in November but it waited until February to reach the US even though 10K people were flying back and forth to China every week.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:52 AM (ZLyax)

They have found blood test from Sept 2019 with the same RNA strands. The PCR test were weaponized to lock down the US.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 08:58 AM (5QBw6)

248 223 We will not be Venezuela by the end of 2021. It will take at least 2, maybe 3 years to get there.
Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 08:51 AM (bCLt0)


Yep, First, it's necessary to create DC and Puerto Rico as states; that will be done before the next election.
Next election we assume the great descend.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 08:59 AM (CZm2G)

249 What's funny about this is that for climate scientology, the computer models have always generated a range of possible outcomes, and the climate scientologists have always cherry-picked the extreme results. There are model runs from the late 80s when this started happening that do match what has actually happened (basically nothing). But those results were largely suppressed.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:57 AM (6XLoz)

The emails from 2008 and 9 proved it was all a hoax.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 08:59 AM (5QBw6)

250 Roger Kimball: "The opposite of 'conservative' is not 'liberal' but ephemeral."
The Cultural Roots of Conservatism
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His point from Brave New World is particularly apt for today. They hate old culture simply because it is old.

In general, I agree with Kimball about that book. It really wasn't that well written. I read it in my teens, close to when I read the two Orwells (and First Men in the Moon, which mentions similar conditioning). It struck me then that Huxley just didn't write as well.

But then, I probably agree with Kimball more often than any other current pundit.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 08:59 AM (7X3UV)

251


Mike Pence will do what Trump instructs him to do. He won't be making an independent decision.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2020 08:59 AM (gm3d+)

252 People have had it with the COVID tyranny here. If you want to be a Karen, it's best you arm yourself or learn how to wear a shopping cart as a hat.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (VpIIl)

253
They have found blood test from Sept 2019 with the same RNA strands. The PCR test were weaponized to lock down the US.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 08:58 AM (5QBw6)

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Yep. When you have to TELL people that they're sick...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (ZLyax)

254 Actual quote: "He's from the party that wants us all to die, so this is hilarious".

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:58 AM (6XLoz)

At this point, I'm just apathetic if they died. But anything is possible.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (xfb67)

255 246 Also, apparently a GOP Congressman-elect died of Covid overnight and the Twitter lefties are doing the mother of all end zone dances.


He was 41 and in good physical condition.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (CZm2G)

256
Actual quote: "He's from the party that wants us all to die, so this is hilarious".
Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:58 AM (6XLoz)

Abortion.
Population Controls.
Eugenics.
Death Panels.
The Welfare State.

Yeah. OK buddy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (6FeV1)

257 I'm sorry but, I've been around hundreds of "religious" people in my time.

And the only truth is, like that saying that goes, " the more they professed their piety, the closer watch we kept on our silver."

And any time a politician says that they prayed, get ready to see the biggest liar, thief and cheat since Cain.

Pence doesn't flee the country if he plans to stand up for the people.
Get ready to choke on his piety ....

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (aO8Gd)

258
Loeffler and Perdue won't even say boo over an obviously stolen
election, but I am to believe they'll put the brakes on whatever lunatic
diktat the Dems come up with?



Still not the argument being made. People ceding that you're right
and they're GOPe/CoC zombies. But there's still a fair amount of the
Dem agenda that GOPe/CoC opposes.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:53 AM
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Plus there are more than a couple of dem Senators that oppose the new agenda being driven by the far left. They will not vote for any of it. manchin has already come out and dashed those hopes. He has to do that or he will not get reelected.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (JUOKG)

259 ""Actual quote: "He's from the party that wants us all to die, so this is hilarious".

So- a Democrat? Democrat run states have killed most of the people.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:01 AM (VpIIl)

260 I'm still a tad unclear on how a super contagious virus was running rampant through a major international trade city in November but it waited until February to reach the US even though 10K people were flying back and forth to China every week.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that it did get passed around like Kamala at a DNC meeting before there was general alarm about it. I had a really bad flu early last January for about a week, as did many of my co-workers, for instance.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:01 AM (6XLoz)

261 If 10ppm of CO2 is enough to generate 1C of warming, i should be able to run a steel foundry in a greenhouse with 100% CO2?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 30, 2020 09:01 AM (25aKC)

262 245 They need to be incapacitated in the most horrific, public way.
No help is coming. The courts and Congress are cowards and collaborators.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:50 AM (VpIIl)

Pithy truth. Why I come here.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:57 AM (H8QX

I'm pretty pithed off on a regular basis....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:02 AM (6FeV1)

263 He has to do that or he will not get reelected.


Manchin can do whatever he wants for 5 1/2 years. All he has to do is spend 6 months saying "Yay coal!" And they will send him back to dc

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 30, 2020 09:03 AM (25aKC)

264 There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that it did get passed around like Kamala at a DNC meeting before there was general alarm about it. I had a really bad flu early last January for about a week, as did many of my co-workers, for instance.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:01 AM (6XLoz)

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Yep. Almost everyone I know had a weird persistent cough this time last year, and flu tests all came up negative.

I'm not saying it was the COVIDs, but pretending it wasn't here in November and December is very much anti-science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:03 AM (ZLyax)

265 Actual quote: "He's from the party that wants us all to die, so this is hilarious".----------------------Once again, why does the left care whether we wear masks or not? Shouldn't they encourage us not to wear masks? Per their belief, they will be protected and we will not. We will just die off.

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 09:03 AM (sX1BW)

266 Mike Pence will do what Trump instructs him to do. He won't be making an independent decision.

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I could only wish that to assuredly be the case, grammie. I truly hope you're right.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (O+I8R)

267 A new form of govenment is being instituted amidst the engineered chaos we are experiencing. There IS no court of appeal or recourse left. Government is in the hands of the administrative state and corporations that are transnational. They are what Trump opposed, and look what happned.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (bCLt0)

268 238 The new scientific method: Form a hypothesis, find a bunch of scientists who agree with your hypothesis, generate a computer model that supports your hypothesis, get government funding to gather actual data, claim more research is needed because the hypothesis could be catastrophic if true, get government funding to continue research, repeat as necessary.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 30, 2020 08:52 AM (25aKC)


If we lived in a for-real science-based public policy world, NASA, NOAA, and equivalent agencies around the world would be doing many, many tests of the global CO2 warming theory, using specialized instruments on satellites and very-high altitude balloons. I cannot recall announcements of any such missions by NASA or NOAA.

Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (AMIL/)

269 A fun, lighthearted look at mask mandates and how society is handling them.

https://tinyurl.com/yd2xpenb

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (G0PEa)

270 The estimates here indicate that there were 70,000 to 79,000 "excess" votes in Georgia and Pennsylvania.



I heard there that in PA are 200,000 more votes counted that ballots cast. I think it was the guest host for Rush who said that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (UnQ9z)

271 Kelly Loefler is the epitome of a disconnect rich person that will use the office to further enrich herself at the expense of all GA workers.
Posted by: BacktoGA at December 30, 2020 08:50 AM (MPYWI)
************
I have been following her since she became a senator and I didn't want to like her at first, but for the most part I have been pleasantly surprised with
some of the stances she's taken.
She was one of the first senators to call out the BLM movement for the Marxist organization that they are.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (NpAcC)

272 "45 They need to be incapacitated in the most horrific, public way.
No help is coming. The courts and Congress are cowards and collaborators.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 08:50 AM (VpIIl)

Pithy truth. Why I come here.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:57 AM (H8QX

I'm pretty pithed off on a regular basis....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:02 AM (6FeV1)"

It's best if you avoid being pithed off too often, less you look pithecoid.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:05 AM (VpIIl)

273 Actual quote: "He's from the party that wants us all to die, so this is hilarious".

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I don't want anyone except traitors and some of the equally horrible regular criminals to die.

I just want you to leave people the f*ck alone to be free and raise their kids how they see fit.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:05 AM (ZLyax)

274 For the record, I'm fine with anti-science religious beliefs, but leave your religion out of politics.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:31 AM (ZLyax)



That's not how this Freedom of Religion thing works in our republic. A religiously derived policy preference is not some kind of 2nd class political opinion that has to step aside for the secular.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 30, 2020 09:05 AM (yQpMk)

275 I heard there that in PA are 200,000 more votes counted that ballots cast.

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Yep. But that's no reason to think the results should be reexamined!

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 09:05 AM (O+I8R)

276 Yep. Almost everyone I know had a weird persistent cough this time last year, and flu tests all came up negative.

I'm not saying it was the COVIDs, but pretending it wasn't here in November and December is very much anti-science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:03 AM (ZLyax)

I read somewhere about a study that sampled blood in blood banks and found that it was present in the US in late 2019 in significant numbers.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 30, 2020 09:06 AM (xfb67)

277 Mollie Hemingway points out there is stupid, and then, there is unapologetic lefty Propagandist stupid.

https://tinyurl.com/yb2cjlnx

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Hey! You can't do that here! at December 30, 2020 09:06 AM (nTluA)

278 He was 41 and in good physical condition.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (CZm2G)

maybe, maybe not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2020 09:06 AM (tsZQ+)

279 Yep, First, it's necessary to create DC and Puerto Rico as states; that will be done before the next election.

Next election we assume the great descend.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 08:59 AM
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Been hearing that since I was a kid back in the 60s, ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at December 30, 2020 09:06 AM (JUOKG)

280 ""I have been following her since she became a senator and I didn't want to like her at first, but for the most part I have been pleasantly surprised with
some of the stances she's taken.
She was one of the first senators to call out the BLM movement for the Marxist organization that they are.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (NpAcC)"

Truth, and her voting record reflects it.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:06 AM (VpIIl)

281 136 >>>Of course, it's your decision but I hope you will find something else to watch and not watch FNC.


Yep. If you're still watching Fox News, you're part of the problem. Furthermore, if you're still using FaceBook and/or Twitter, you're part of the problem. If Google is still your search engine, you're part of the problem. If you're still watching the NFL, NBA, NASCAR et al, you're part of the problem. I could go on, of course.
Posted by: fly at December 30, 2020 08:25 AM (c1sSU)
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I've gone farther than that. Cut Amazon. And that one hurts, unlike the others. Sometimes there's a book I want, not sold elsewhere.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:06 AM (7X3UV)

282 Assuming the Biden regime is illegally installed, I will according to the Declaration of Independence consider it my DUTY to through off this regime.

The Democrats thought they had a resistance. I support Revolution.... just as our founding fathers did.

I will do everything I can (legal and Illegal) to fight the Fed. govt. What ideas do you all have that we as individuals can do to create mayhem for the Federales?

Some of mine are, Slashing tires on vehicles in Federal parking lots, Decrease withholding to zero, Request Tax extension indefinitely, Dumping all my junk mail back into the mailbox, setting up email accounts to fire off scheduled emails to as many govt. emails as I can find,
doxxing politicians, and democrat traitors in general


Would love to hear others ideas.

Posted by: bob at December 30, 2020 09:07 AM (D2wY0)

283 If we lived in a for-real science-based public policy world, NASA, NOAA, and equivalent agencies around the world would be doing many, many tests of the global CO2 warming theory, using specialized instruments on satellites and very-high altitude balloons. I cannot recall announcements of any such missions by NASA or NOAA.

NASA did launch some high-precision temperature monitoring satellites, and then went strangely quiet about the results. I've only heard the satellite data consistently cited by anti-global-warming scientists and meteorologists.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:07 AM (6XLoz)

284
Off to get my hairs cut.

Later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 09:07 AM (s2VJv)

285 The ChiComs were either intentional or criminally negligent with Corona. And they've infiltrated and corrupted our government, academia, media and many large corporations. They own Biden.

We're at war, people. Whether we like it or not.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 30, 2020 09:07 AM (9TdxA)

286 Per their belief, they will be protected and we will not. We will just die off.
Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 09:03 AM (sX1BW)

The "science", such as it is, says that wearing the mask (especially ersatz cloth face coverings) doesn't protect *you* at all. It protects the environment and the people around you from the gobs of phlegm and saliva that you constantly eject from your face just by being alive and breathing and talking.

Which is true enough. I've never been "anti-mask" in the sense that it doesn't technically work in that regard. The problem is that you introduce too many other hazards that outweigh the minuscule benefit you get from them. Encouraging touching your face. Trapping exhaled CO2 and pathogens. Encouraging closer contact than you otherwise would if you were "unprotected". Encouraging a false sense of security. Etc.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:08 AM (6FeV1)

287 He was 41 and in good physical condition.



Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 09:00 AM (CZm2G)



maybe, maybe not ---------------------------------We always here stories about people dying of heart attacks and it is pointed out that he was a runner who took his health very seriously. Sometimes your genetics just suck and there is nothing you can do to stop what is coming. Sometimes people don't disclose things. And sometimes you are just unfortunate. Did Covid take him down? I don't know. I'm willing to bet he had some other underlying co-morbidity, but who knows. It doesn't change how I feel on the matter. Regardless, it is sad and difficult loss for his family.

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 09:08 AM (sX1BW)

288 144 The evidence of fraud is overwhelming and specific.
And every court has ignored it, saying, "that's not enough."
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 30, 2020 08:23 AM (aO8Gd)
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Not true. No court has examined any evidence as yet. They have dismissed the cases on standing and other procedural issues.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 30, 2020 08:26 AM (sGotD)
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Exactly. We have to keep hammering on this. ESPECIALLY to the limp-dicked "Republicans".

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM (7X3UV)

289 If we lived in a for-real science-based public policy world, NASA, NOAA, and equivalent agencies around the world would be doing many, many tests of the global CO2 warming theory, using specialized instruments on satellites and very-high altitude balloons. I cannot recall announcements of any such missions by NASA or NOAA.
Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (AMIL/)

they have done this just not published. Several people have their data.

Just last month, NOAA issued this statement: In the Atlantic, it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human activities and particularly GHGs that cause global warming have already had a detectable impact on hurricane activity. In short, the historical Atlantic hurricane frequency record does not provide compelling evidence for a substantial greenhouse warming-induced long-term increase.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM (5QBw6)

290 https://tinyurl.com/yd2xpenb
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Troublefield said this was the first time he’s ever confronted anyone for not wearing a mask. He said he was compelled to because both he and his wife have preexisting conditions

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HAHAHA

And he was the one who approached the men and even touched one.

SCIENZ!!!! DEADLY SUPER CONTAGIOUS PANDEMIC!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM (ZLyax)

291 For logprof, who tipped out of last night's ONT just before I posted this response to him:

"Russia will spread her errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer and various nations will be annihilated."

(Some woman in 1917)

Posted by: logprof, Ultramontane Trumpist



This column by Joseph Bottum when Lucia dos Santos passed in 2005 is a must read:

https://tinyurl.com/What-Happened-At-Fatima-JB

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM (1YlHz)

292 266 Mike Pence will do what Trump instructs him to do. He won't be making an independent decision.

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I could only wish that to assuredly be the case, grammie. I truly hope you're right.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 09:04 AM (O+I8R)

If that is the case, and Pence rubber stamps the election, that means Trump knew all along that he wasn't going to be re-elected and the last two months of non stop "STOP THE STEAL!" emails and tweets were just a fund raising scam.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM (Izzlo)

293 Exactly. We have to keep hammering on this. ESPECIALLY to the limp-dicked "Republicans".
Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM (7X3UV)

Please clap!

Posted by: Jeb! at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM (sVFtl)

294 I've gone farther than that. Cut Amazon. And that one hurts, unlike the others. Sometimes there's a book I want, not sold elsewhere.

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Look on eBay for books too. I know, I know. Ebay's owners are just as disgustingly leftist, but Amazon is so all-encompassing and enormous. People are addicted to it like crack. I try to avoid them at all times. I don't want to give one penny to them. I don't have Prime. I don't use any Amazon service. I search the web for any product I find on there and buy elsewhere most of the time.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 30, 2020 09:10 AM (O+I8R)

295 --
Been hearing that since I was a kid back in the 60s, ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at December 30, 2020 09:06 AM (JUOKG)
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Yes it will.
They will make PR and DC states then come next election the 1st, 2nd, and 4th amendments are out the window.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 09:10 AM (CZm2G)

296 Are there competing electors from MI, because, if there aren't, I don't see how the math works? Currently, biden has 306 and PDT has 232. If the contested states of PA, WI, GA, AZ, NM and NV are tossed, that is 68 EV. That still leaves 238 to 232. I'm hoping I'm wrong on MI electors.

Posted by: EveR at December 30, 2020 09:10 AM (DsGxB)

297 Judge who is the sister of Stacey Abrams blocks voter roll purge in 2 Georgia counties

First it's not purging the voter rolls it's cleaning them up. Second judges like Tank's sister just make up whatever rulings they want based on their politics and nothing else. We aren't a nation of laws but the whims of leftists in black robes.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 30, 2020 09:10 AM (UnQ9z)

298 The "science", such as it is, says that wearing the mask (especially ersatz cloth face coverings) doesn't protect *you* at all. It protects the environment and the people around you from the gobs of phlegm and saliva that you constantly eject from your face just by being alive and breathing and talking.

Yeah, "masks aren't for you unless they're N95" is scientifically defensible.

I think it's worth noting that regular colds and flus have basically gone extinct since everyone started washing and sanitizing their hands though. Apparently a fuckton of people don't wash properly after they wipe their asses.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:10 AM (6XLoz)

299 "Joe-Blow" is perfect.

How did I not come up with this first?!?!? It's definitely my intellectual speed!

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2020 09:11 AM (1YlHz)

300 289>> What most scientists actually say and what gets into press releases is shocking.

The press f'ks everything up.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 30, 2020 09:11 AM (xfb67)

301 osted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2020 08:36 AM (s2VJv)


I believe Trump is reconciling himself to the idea that his greatest service is to expose the Left and the treachery that surrounds us as best he can and to let the system he loves and believes in make the corrections in their own way, over time and through the people.

He will not invoke the Insurrection Act and or attempt any radical intervention or interruption of the process beyond exhausting his legal options.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 08:44 AM (H8QX

This is not a situation that can be predicted. As CAT said: it's Calvinball from here all the way in.

However, if the steal stands, Trump will fight with such relentless intensity that their scheme won't go nearly as smoothly as the traitors are thinking.

Posted by: Voter theater. at December 30, 2020 09:11 AM (xXx5y)

302 My anecdotal evidence is that numerous people I know were Maskers, and got the Rona.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:11 AM (bCLt0)

303 If that is the case, and Pence rubber stamps the election, that means
Trump knew all along that he wasn't going to be re-elected and the last
two months of non stop "STOP THE STEAL!" emails and tweets were just a
fund raising scam.-------------------------------Perhaps. Could also be that he was going to try to make Biden as illegitimate as possible - at least in the eyes of his voters.

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 09:12 AM (sX1BW)

304 We aren't a nation of laws but the whims of leftists in black robes.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 30, 2020 09:10 AM (UnQ9z)

In this case more of a black tarp or circus tent.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 30, 2020 09:12 AM (xfb67)

305 That's not how this Freedom of Religion thing works in our republic. A religiously derived policy preference is not some kind of 2nd class political opinion that has to step aside for the secular.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 30, 2020 09:05 AM (yQpMk)

And what about when your "Science!" becomes a pseudo-religion/cult in its own right?

"Our Fauci, which art on the TeeVee, hallowed be thy name"....

The cult of "Science!" has become essentially based on revelation, not empiricism.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:12 AM (6FeV1)

306 In the last year, more people died in my company from stress related ailments than COVID. It well exceeded the number of deaths in the last 11 years. One person died from 'COVID" and people were shocked. Then months later it came out he had a lung ailment. One day, someone will honestly count the deaths and suicide from COVID policies. I guarantee its more than the disease.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:12 AM (VpIIl)

307 The beating lasted about 20 seconds. The men took off and now he's worried they're going to get away and he won't get justice.


Ha. It sounds like he did get justice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 30, 2020 09:12 AM (yQpMk)

308 Apparently a fuckton of people don't wash properly after they wipe their asses.

Posted by: Ian S.



I don't doubt that is true but isn't the more likely scenario that all flu and cold cases that are severe enough to require treatment are now just being called The 'Rona, for obvious political and financial reasons?

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2020 09:13 AM (1YlHz)

309 "If Americans are taught to reject America's founding principles, that
leaves room for us to be defined and shaped by an alternative principle:
identity politics."

"Identity Politics" is not the best name for it. It is anti-white, and the root of that is "anti-Western-Civ" which is rooted in liberty and individual sovereignty.
By being against "identity politics", it lets them frame the argument, in terms of being against inclusion of the other. They went way past "equal rights" and now demand our American Heritage be destroyed and replaced. Looking at the structures of power, white/Western/Christian is the majority they will not allow to be "included" in their "diversity safe zones" ... (congress, academia, media, corporations).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 30, 2020 09:13 AM (Cus5s)

310 *Zombie Teddy Kennedy stirs in Hell, imagining a Pig Sandwich with the Abrams Sisters, with him as the meat*

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2020 09:14 AM (1YlHz)

311 Would love to hear others ideas.



Posted by: bob at December 30, 2020 09:07 AM (D2wY0)

How is the FBI paying these days?

Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 30, 2020 09:15 AM (EvyNw)

312 Zombie Teddy Kennedy stirs in Hell, imagining a Pig Sandwich with the Abrams Sisters, with him as the meat*
Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2020 09:14 AM (1YlHz)

Oh noes he din int!

Posted by: Tank Abrams, Kollege edumucated Attorney at Law at December 30, 2020 09:15 AM (sVFtl)

313 296 Are there competing electors from MI, because, if there aren't, I don't see how the math works? Currently, biden has 306 and PDT has 232. If the contested states of PA, WI, GA, AZ, NM and NV are tossed, that is 68 EV. That still leaves 238 to 232. I'm hoping I'm wrong on MI electors.

Posted by: EveR at December 30, 2020 09:10 AM (DsGxB)


If no one gets 270 or more EV's, per the Constitution the House votes for President (one vote PER STATE) and the Senate votes for VP. A simple majority is all that's needed in both. Without going into the details, Trump and Pence win - barring GOP defections.

Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2020 09:16 AM (AMIL/)

314 Most people are still show White Coat Deference. This has been used to great effect bythe media.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:16 AM (bCLt0)

315 I wonder how many cold and flu's are being classified as COVID for funding purpose. Plus, schools, restaurants , etc. have been closed so public access to facilities is limited. I guess we can all live in our houses forever under house arrest and feel good that viruses have been reduced.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:17 AM (VpIIl)

316 190 Indeed. But the conclusion of your sarcasm is that the science isn't settled, Perhaps we really don't know, for good or for bad.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 30, 2020 08:39 AM (h9CJU)
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I'm not sure you follow.

The science has been settled since respiratory viruses were beginning to be understood.

Anything else is religious belief.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 08:41 AM (ZLyax)
_________

That's absurd. Which religion? You are abusing the word.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:17 AM (7X3UV)

317 I don't doubt that is true but isn't the more likely scenario that all flu and cold cases that are severe enough to require treatment are now just being called The 'Rona, for obvious political and financial reasons?

That's definitely happening to an extent, but the total cold/flu death numbers (which includes WuFlu) are lower for 2020 than 2019, which wouldn't happen if all colds and flu were simply classified as WuFlu.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:17 AM (6XLoz)

318
The "science", such as it is, says that wearing the mask (especially ersatz cloth face coverings) doesn't protect *you* at all. It protects the environment and the people around you from the gobs of phlegm and saliva that you constantly eject from your face just by being alive and breathing and talking.

-

There's a pro-mask link in my posts yesterday that shows that they only protect anyone from being directly spit on or keeping huge chunks of food morsels and globs of spit from striking their mouth, eyes, and nose in a sneeze.

Anything smaller was unaffected one way or the other.

preview.tinyurl.com/yc46yf2g

Now go ahead and tell me the last time anyone older than about 5 years old sneezed chunks of snot and saliva onto your face.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:17 AM (ZLyax)

319 Also just saw the Pence trip canceled, he seems a bit more bold lately to me so we shall see, Trump is on fire.

Posted by: Summer of Love at December 30, 2020 09:17 AM (FJrl0)

320 If that is the case, and Pence rubber stamps the election, that means Trump knew all along that he wasn't going to be re-elected and the last two months of non stop "STOP THE STEAL!" emails and tweets were just a fund raising scam.
Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM (Izzlo)


Nah.

Trump's been committed to doing this in a legal and Constitutional manner., which takes time and persistence.

Unfortunately, at each option so far he has been failed by people refusing to do their jobs.

But, you've got to try.

Pence's decision is his own. He'll either fail America or he will step up.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 30, 2020 09:18 AM (dWwl8)

321 That's not the argument being made. If Loeffler and
Perdue lose, there is a 100% chance of Venezuela before the end of
2021. If they win, the stuff AOC and friends want to do that the
Chamber of Commerce actually opposes will get blocked (Green Nude Eel,
etc).
Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 08:43 AM (6XLoz)


Then better the fast collapse, on my watch - than a slow one that pleases the Chamber of Fvcking Commerce and the hope that I'll be dead before then and my kids can deal with it. I'll take all the pain now, please.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 09:18 AM (H8Bf9)

322 Along with fake diagnoses of COVID based on symptoms alone, there must be scads and scads of asymptomatic cases based on a positive test and nothing else.

I personally know many who have "tested positive", but displayed little to no symptoms, and not a single person in their restricted orbit got sick.

But that's still a "case" for the books. Because We're All Gonna Die In This Together.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:19 AM (6FeV1)

323 I don't doubt that is true but isn't the more likely scenario that all flu and cold cases that are severe enough to require treatment are now just being called The 'Rona, for obvious political and financial reasons?

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There is a no-sh*t CDC page keeping up with the flu that says there is not enough data to track it this year. Something like 500 total cases nationwide so far.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:19 AM (ZLyax)

324 @276

The virus was kicking around the world in Sep/Oct of last year, the plandemic went live in Dec/Jan.

They started locking down in mid Feb.

And it's all been 100 pct bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 30, 2020 09:20 AM (Zpy8X)

325 Ha. It sounds like he did get justice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 30, 2020 09:12 AM (yQpMk)

......

In my mind, I like to think one of the men was laughing and saying "Your mask will protect you" as the other man was kicking him in his face.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 30, 2020 09:20 AM (G0PEa)

326 That's absurd. Which religion? You are abusing the word.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:17 AM (7X3UV)

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Scientism. See #205

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:20 AM (ZLyax)

327 Now go ahead and tell me the last time anyone older than about 5 years old sneezed chunks of snot and saliva onto your face.

Been to a Wal-Mart lately?

But seriously. The masks aren't talking about someone hocking a loogie at you, it's about the normal can't-even-feel-them micro-drops of saliva that naturally come out of your mouth when you talk.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:21 AM (6XLoz)

328 Intelligent people have a positive proclivity towards science. I've talked to a few astrophysicists and they were fascinating. I could listen to them explain stuff for hours. But when they talked about politics they wen off the rails. It was like Rain Man on acid.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:21 AM (VpIIl)

329 "Now go ahead and tell me the last time anyone older than about 5 years old sneezed chunks of snot and saliva onto your face."

Our cat did that to my wife the other night in bed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 30, 2020 09:21 AM (3D/fK)

330 Romney, Sasse and Murkowski must be choking on this latest poll.
Trump is the face of the Republican Party.

Byron York
@ByronYork
Gallup: 48% of Republicans named Donald Trump as most admired man. 32% of Democrats named Barack Obama. 13% of Democrats named Joe Biden.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2020 09:22 AM (NpAcC)

331 That's not the argument being made. If Loeffler and
Perdue lose, there is a 100% chance of Venezuela before the end of 2021. If they win, the stuff AOC and friends want to do that the Chamber of Commerce actually opposes will get blocked (Green Nude Eel, etc).
Posted by: Ian S.



You can provide 100% assurance that not ONE fucking turncoat (including Romney) won't cross over and vote with the Dems?

Since they haven't been able to do that in 100 years, NOW all of a sudden, they will find their spines?

You can make that assurance?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2020 09:22 AM (LwB8i)

332 Most people are still show White Coat Deference. This has been used to great effect bythe media.
Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:16 AM

Remember the obamacare rollout? Where they hired actors to stand around in lab coats behind him?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:22 AM (6FeV1)

333 Our cat did that to my wife the other night in bed.



Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 30, 2020 09:21 AM (3D/fK)

People with pets general get sick less than people with out pets because your immune system gets more of a workout.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 30, 2020 09:23 AM (xfb67)

334 Our cat did that to my wife the other night in bed.

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Sticks in "idea jar"

Posted by: Bill Kristol, cuckster man at December 30, 2020 09:23 AM (nTluA)

335 The masks aren't talking about someone hocking a loogie at you, it's
about the normal can't-even-feel-them micro-drops of saliva that
naturally come out of your mouth when you talk.------------------------------So instead of injecting them into the air around you to die off due to sunlight and other exposure, we are leaving them inside our breathing apparatus to be breathed in over and over. Great strategy.

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 09:24 AM (sX1BW)

336 323 I don't doubt that is true but isn't the more likely scenario that all flu and cold cases that are severe enough to require treatment are now just being called The 'Rona, for obvious political and financial reasons?

There is a no-sh*t CDC page keeping up with the flu that says there is not enough data to track it this year. Something like 500 total cases nationwide so far.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:19 AM (ZLyax)


If flu cases are down this season, even a little bit, I'll give you one guess what CDC and Fauci and God-forbid Stupid Joe will attribute that to: Masks. And they may be right. Then what? Again, I'll give you one guess.

Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2020 09:24 AM (AMIL/)

337 Trump's been committed to doing this in a legal and Constitutional manner., which takes time and persistence.

Unfortunately, at each option so far he has been failed by people refusing to do their jobs.

But, you've got to try.

Pence's decision is his own. He'll either fail America or he will step up.
Posted by: naturalfake


Gimme a $100 on fail.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2020 09:25 AM (LwB8i)

338 332 Most people are still show White Coat Deference. This has been used to great effect bythe media.
Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:16 AM

Remember the obamacare rollout? Where they hired actors to stand around in lab coats behind him?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:22 AM (6FeV1)


I do indeed. Reflexive genuflection is a Thing, even though we don't like to think about it, as we see ourselves as all free and independent types.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:25 AM (bCLt0)

339 it's about the normal can't-even-feel-them micro-drops of saliva that naturally come out of your mouth when you talk.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:21 AM (6XLoz)

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It's been posted here before, but your grandmother gave you the best advice. Wash your hands, don't pick your nose, and don't get right up on people.

If you're close enough that you're spitting on people, back up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:25 AM (ZLyax)

340 Wouldn't DC statehood require a Constitutional amendment?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 09:25 AM (y7DUB)

341 And it's all been 100 pct bullshit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 30, 2020 09:20 AM (Zpy8X)

Concur.
But I got my mask, Vitamin D, 20 ml of bat urine, 1 Tb potassium chloride, tail of newt and spin around 6 times every hour to ward off the China Flu demons.
All I need now is a monkey paw.
Everyting gwarn be iree!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 30, 2020 09:25 AM (sVFtl)

342 You can provide 100% assurance that not ONE fucking turncoat (including Romney) won't cross over and vote with the Dems?

No, but I can provide 100% assurance that without them the Dems will get full socialism rammed through no problem. I'll take some chance over no chance.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:26 AM (6XLoz)

343 >>I've gone farther than that. Cut Amazon. And that one hurts, unlike the others.


Yes, Amazon is included in my "I could go on, of course" statement at the end. Plenty of merchants that sell via Amazon have their own websites in which to buy directly, cutting Amazon out of the process.

Oh, and Netflix. If you still have a Netflix account and are still viewing its content, you're part of the problem.

Posted by: fly at December 30, 2020 09:26 AM (c1sSU)

344 You can provide 100% assurance that not ONE fucking turncoat (including Romney) won't cross over and vote with the Dems?

Since they haven't been able to do that in 100 years, NOW all of a sudden, they will find their spines?

You can make that assurance?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2020 09:22 AM (LwB8i)
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No, but you can bet your ass that if they are not elected we are down the tube.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 09:27 AM (CZm2G)

345 I'm gonna go ahead and predict Pence will be as useful as he's always been.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 30, 2020 09:27 AM (buTO7)

346 Don't compare science with religion.

The religious texts can be traced back to the Dead Sea scrolls to verify authenticity and are consistent and true.

Science changes with Dr. Fauci's whimsy and whenever a new way of sticking weenies in holes is discovered.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 30, 2020 09:27 AM (G0PEa)

347 So instead of injecting them into the air around you to die off due to sunlight and other exposure, we are leaving them inside our breathing apparatus to be breathed in over and over. Great strategy.

To be fair, those things were already inside of you. But yes, that's one of the downsides of masks. Back in the summer there was briefly news of dentists noting that masks were causing peoples' teeth to get more British because no sunlight was getting into your mouth. The media quickly moved to suppress that though.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:28 AM (6XLoz)

348 ""instead of injecting them into the air around you to die off due to sunlight and other exposure, we are leaving them inside our breathing apparatus to be breathed in over and over. Great strategy."

Or my favorite, directly handled as people touch their masks. Which they do often.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:28 AM (VpIIl)

349 326 That's absurd. Which religion? You are abusing the word.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:17 AM (7X3UV)
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Scientism. See #205
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:20 AM (ZLyax)
________

Not really a religion at all. It is the epitome of a disease that arose with science, making your method into a metaphysics. That goes back to the late 16th C. It's just bad philosophy.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:28 AM (7X3UV)

350 I bl that is the purpose behind being in DC on 1/6, to give Pence the fortitude to do the right thing for the country. There have been posters here that have very derisive of those going to DC, but I think it is a wonderful gift to a President who deserves our support.

Posted by: EveR at December 30, 2020 09:29 AM (DsGxB)

351 Scientism. See #205

________

Not really a religion at all. It is the epitome of a disease that arose with science, making your method into a metaphysics. That goes back to the late 16th C. It's just bad philosophy.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:28 AM (7X3UV)

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Good thing I was just using the word to make a point about faith-based belief in science, I guess.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:30 AM (ZLyax)

352
Remember the obamacare rollout? Where they hired actors to stand around in lab coats behind him?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:22 AM (6FeV1)

And the Soviet media gladly went along with the lie.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 30, 2020 09:30 AM (UnQ9z)

353 Wearing a mask the other day while walking into my bank branch to visit my safety deposit box was kind of a thrill.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Hey! You can't do that here! at December 30, 2020 09:30 AM (nTluA)

354 My kids are shocked every year by what Henry II did. I then tell them about Henry VIII. More shock.

Posted by: Jmel
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Really? Do they not know any history?
Can't wait for their reaction when you tell them about the Trail of Tears, or the slaughter ininiated by Abe Lincoln. They could watch the news and see violent gangs roaming the cities looting and burning with the explicit support of the political class. Henries II and VIII are weaksauce compared to the present crop running the US.

Posted by: Jamal Epstein at December 30, 2020 09:31 AM (abHAZ)

355 I have no faith that anyone in government will do the right thing about the election.

Prove me wrong politicians, prove me wrong.

Posted by: mpfs,MAGA Forever! at December 30, 2020 09:31 AM (cpZuE)

356 340 Wouldn't DC statehood require a Constitutional amendment?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 09:25 AM (y7DUB)


Rules.

You're talking about rules!

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2020 09:31 AM (ZfRYq)

357 314 Most people are still show White Coat Deference. This has been used to great effect bythe media.
Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:16 AM (bCLt0)

Obama gave out white coats for signing of Bhussein Care.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:31 AM (5QBw6)

358 To be fair, those things were already inside of you.-------------------------Of course, but they were being expelled. I'm just a crazy dude who believes in evolution (even though it is only a theory), and our bodies evolved without wearing masks. Perhaps our bodies are smarter than Dr. Fauci. Maybe our lungs have used the environment to create a fairly efficient means of cleansing and disinfecting to prevent or limit the damage done by respiratory viruses. But that is just me.

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 09:31 AM (sX1BW)

359 351 Scientism. See #205
________

Not really a religion at all. It is the epitome of a disease that arose with science, making your method into a metaphysics. That goes back to the late 16th C. It's just bad philosophy.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:28 AM (7X3UV)
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Good thing I was just using the word to make a point about faith-based belief in science, I guess.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:30 AM (ZLyax)
________
Don't spread the slander of religion. Period. That is what you are doing there, equating "religion" with irrationality and blind faith.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:32 AM (7X3UV)

360 Isn't Florida mask free now?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:32 AM (JOV35)

361 Wearing a mask the other day while walking into my bank branch to visit my safety deposit box was kind of a thrill.

-

Everyone should go to the bank at least once to hear a manager demand that you leave if you refuse to cover your face.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:32 AM (ZLyax)

362 No, but I can provide 100% assurance that without
them the Dems will get full socialism rammed through no problem. I'll
take some chance over no chance.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 30, 2020 09:26 AM (6XLoz)


Spoiler Alert - when you're depending on the GOP opposing creeping Socialism to defend the agenda of the Chamber of Commerce - you have no chance. You're just casting a preference for Corporate Socialism over what you perceive as a more distasteful flavor. And you're hoping for a slower decline that you won't outlive.

Spoiler Alert Number Two - the modern DNC is all-in on Corporate Socialism. They love it. Because the Chinese love it.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 09:32 AM (GKlaO)

363 Our cat did that to my wife the other night in bed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice




Go on . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2020 09:33 AM (1YlHz)

364 Wearing a mask the other day while walking into my bank branch to visit my safety deposit box was kind of a thrill.



Do it while open carrying.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2020 09:33 AM (LwB8i)

365 My kids are shocked every year by what Henry II did. I then tell them about Henry VIII. More shock.

Posted by: Jmeld
________

Moral: If your name is Thomas, stay away from kings named Henry. You do get to heaven, of course. The hard way.

(BTW, David French no doubt already despises Becket. Calvin certainly didn't like him.)

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (7X3UV)

366 360 Isn't Florida mask free now?
Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:32 AM (JOV35)

All rules lifted Sep 25, 2020

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (5QBw6)

367 Gallup: 48% of Republicans named Donald Trump as most admired man. 32% of Democrats named Barack Obama. 13% of Democrats named Joe Biden.

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Big Mike at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (DMUuz)

368 And here I am arguing about the science of mask wearing, when the only argument that really matters is one of liberty.

Posted by: SH at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (sX1BW)

369 This column by Joseph Bottum when Lucia dos Santos passed in 2005 is a must read:

https://tinyurl.com/What-Happened-At-Fatima-JB
Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2020 09:09 AM

My appreciation for you posting this link.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (2k7BX)

370
356 340 Wouldn't DC statehood require a Constitutional amendment?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2020 09:25 AM (y7DUB)

Rules.

You're talking about rules!
Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2020 09:31 AM (ZfRYq)
---------///

Exactly. And, in answer to CH's question, it will only require a quick visit to SCOTUS. Presto, done.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Hey! You can't do that here! at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (nTluA)

371 Trump ordered Mar-a-Lago staff to rip out Melania's redecoration's...The MFM loves this story and have made sure they report this from 'unnamed' sources. The know all, see all 'unnamed sources'

Posted by: Colin at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (RMFfD)

372 Art nood.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (Uhu8A)

373 I read the "UN Women" article. Unwoman. Seems about right. Unman, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (hYcqw)

374 364 Wearing a mask the other day while walking into my bank branch to visit my safety deposit box was kind of a thrill.



Do it while open carrying.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2020 09:33 AM (LwB8i)

Bandana.

Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:35 AM (bCLt0)

375 "All rules lifted Sep 25, 2020
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (5QBw6)"

Any thoughts on why some hotels are still posting you have to wear masks in public spaces? Maybe their info isn't updated?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:35 AM (JOV35)

376 Spoiler Alert Number Two - the modern DNC is all-in on Corporate Socialism. They love it. Because the Chinese love it.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 09:32 AM (GKlaO)

Also CorpSoc destroys small business. Forces people to work for CorpSoc and follow CorpSoc rules.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:35 AM (5QBw6)

377 He said he was compelled to because both he and his wife have preexisting conditions
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So T and his wife can mask up and ring a bell as they go through life so they can be avoided.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 30, 2020 09:36 AM (MIKMs)

378 266 Mike Pence will do what Trump instructs him to do. He won't be making an independent decision.
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Trump won't instruct him on this matter. That's not Trump.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 30, 2020 09:36 AM (H8QX8)

379 WTF

Dude can even get the arm right for the kabuki!

https://tinyurl.com/ycrswepe

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:36 AM (5QBw6)

380 371 Trump ordered Mar-a-Lago staff to rip out Melania's redecoration's...The MFM loves this story and have made sure they report this from 'unnamed' sources. The know all, see all 'unnamed sources'
Posted by: Colin at December 30, 2020 09:34 AM (RMFfD)

Trump, the tackiest man in America (let's be honest, he prides himself on it), removes his Christmas decorations in a timely and non-tacky manner, after Christmas.

I guess that counts as "news". Sorta.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:36 AM (6FeV1)

381 Don't spread the slander of religion. Period. That is what you are doing there, equating "religion" with irrationality and blind faith.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 30, 2020 09:32 AM (7X3UV)

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I'm fine slandering religious beliefs that are irrational and based on blind faith. There are many, MANY religious beliefs that deserve it. See also: Scientology

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:37 AM (ZLyax)

382 One day, someone will honestly count the deaths and suicide from COVID policies. I guarantee its more than the disease.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:12 AM--
At this point it's impossible to know who did or not die from covid.
The data has been corrupted to the point of uselessness.

We had one County coroner here in Texas go after the State health department because they put the cause of death as covid because the deceased tested positive for covid before he died. He had signed the death certificate and said the man died from acute alcohol poisoning.

They refused to change the amended death certificate.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at December 30, 2020 09:37 AM (JUOKG)

383 Any thoughts on why some hotels are still posting you have to wear masks in public spaces? Maybe their info isn't updated?
Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:35 AM (JOV35)

Many CorpSoc businesses have their own rules.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:37 AM (5QBw6)

384 "The masks aren't talking about someone hocking a loogie at you, it's
about the normal can't-even-feel-them micro-drops of saliva that
naturally come out of your mouth when you talk."

true ... symptomatic people should stay home (for flu as well), if they had to go out, a mask might mitigate their infection rate (to others). But they will still be touching their mouth and touching door handles (if brief social closeness is even a viable way of spread).


There are multiple risks to wearing a mask, including some indications that they can make the person more susceptible to covid, or making the person feel safe, so they don't wash their hands and they freely touch contaminated things. The social destruction from the masks is also large ... people don't talk to each other much, it is "not cool", and difficult to read expressions.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 30, 2020 09:37 AM (Cus5s)

385 It's going to be another corpse or some desolate grey-scape.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 09:37 AM (CZm2G)

386 I then tell them about Henry VIII. More shock.
Posted by: Jmeld


Kids just don't get exposed to the classics these days.

Posted by: Herman's Hermits at December 30, 2020 09:37 AM (DMUuz)

387 You want to avoid COVID? Hide in your house and become a hermit. Don't tell the rest of us what to do. Otherwise your increase your risk to FIST disease.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2020 09:37 AM (JOV35)

388 374 364 Wearing a mask the other day while walking into my bank branch to visit my safety deposit box was kind of a thrill.

Do it while open carrying.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2020 09:33 AM (LwB8i)

Bandana.
Posted by: tubal at December 30, 2020 09:35 AM (bCLt0)

"Gimme all my money, or someone gets plugged!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:38 AM (6FeV1)

389 We had one County coroner here in Texas go after the State health department because they put the cause of death as covid because the deceased tested positive for covid before he died. He had signed the death certificate and said the man died from acute alcohol poisoning.

They refused to change the amended death certificate.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at December 30, 2020 09:37 AM (JUOKG)

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People in hospice dying from COVIDs is my favorite.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:38 AM (ZLyax)

390 Also CorpSoc destroys small business. Forces people to work for CorpSoc and follow CorpSoc rules.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:35 AM (5QBw6)


Yep - they absolutely HATE independent contractors and free-lancers like me. Why ? Because I'm good enough to make more on the open market than working for them. And they need more of the me types, working for their preferred scale rather than what I can make on the open market.

Obvious solution - destroy the open market.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 09:38 AM (GKlaO)

391 I got my first vaccination in left shoulder this past Monday morning and some of the reactions talked about were headache, nausea, paralysis-like feeling, and palsy. By Monday evening had a numb left leg, top of left food hurt, and shaking left hand and did not sleep well, though experienced no headache or nausea. Somewhat better this morning though worried about next vaccination on the 18th. I have been exposed daily to C19 from the very first and never so much as a sneeze. My question, am I essential enough to warrant this medical 'treatment'. It was not said to be required, but....you know the one....not saying it was aliens....

Posted by: Eromero at December 30, 2020 09:39 AM (em79L)

392 Yes, it's another voice of desolation.

Cheers.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 30, 2020 09:39 AM (CZm2G)

393 FL, where I live, permits businesses to determine if masks required. The CVS requires it, but local restaurants and bars don't. Most grocery stores don't. Walmart does.

Posted by: EveR at December 30, 2020 09:39 AM (DsGxB)

394 Army plans to unveil more inclusive hair and grooming regulations next month: report

well great 75% of 18 YO too fat or too fucking stupid to get into US Military.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2020 09:39 AM (5QBw6)

395 Obvious solution - destroy the open market.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 09:38 AM (GKlaO)

At some point, it's not even Corporate Socialism anymore.

It's Guilds.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:40 AM (6FeV1)

396 I have been exposed daily to C19 from the very first and never so much as a sneeze

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Did you ever get tested for antibodies?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:40 AM (ZLyax)

397 Pence about to prove he's not worth a tuppence.

Posted by: Ziba at December 30, 2020 09:40 AM (S1hrL)

398 My apologies to any Thetans I offended, btw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:41 AM (ZLyax)

399 397 Pence about to prove he's not worth a tuppence.
Posted by: Ziba at December 30, 2020 09:40 AM (S1hrL)

At least he's not shilling like most other Republicans....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:41 AM (6FeV1)

400 Nood up.

Man in the little boat.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:42 AM (6FeV1)

401 Moron Robbie @ 396- Nope, something about outlay of funds.

Posted by: Eromero at December 30, 2020 09:43 AM (em79L)

402 At some point, it's not even Corporate Socialism anymore. It's Guilds.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2020 09:40 AM (6FeV1)


I'll take Guilds over what's coming. CorpSoc won't tolerate a Guild. Because a Guild can, and will, collectively bargain. CorpSoc wants to name their own price. They really don't believe in an open market when it comes to the price of labor.

And look - I've seen this since the 90s. When I first got out working - all the small AE firms I worked for loved them some Chamber of Commerce. Why ? Because they all shared information about wages in the form of a survey. And then they agreed to pay no more than X for a given job classification based upon said survey. That agreement held up for a long time - in a city of six figure population back in the day.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 09:44 AM (GKlaO)

403 Moron Robbie @ 396- Nope, something about outlay of funds.

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Yeah, I doubt it would've mattered regardless. If we still have to wear masks because the vaccine doesn't keep us from getting or spreading the virus, having antibodies present probably wouldn't change anything.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - who said asymptomatics have never been a major disease vector at December 30, 2020 09:44 AM (ZLyax)

404 At some point, it's not even Corporate Socialism anymore. It's Guilds.
=====

Indentured servitude -- you must 'belong' to a master.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 30, 2020 09:45 AM (MIKMs)

405 Screw Pence, that fat fk.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 30, 2020 09:46 AM (buTO7)

406 My appreciation for you posting this link.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones





*silent fist bump*

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2020 09:47 AM (1YlHz)

407 Indentured servitude -- you must 'belong' to a master.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 30, 2020 09:45 AM (MIKMs)


Exactly why they love an H1B so much. About two-thirds the pay scale, and no worry about them ever quitting, even for a better offer. If that's not indentured servitude, what is ? And it's nothing new - SE Asia has been doing this for decades. Indonesians and Philippinos used mostly. Nice that our political class is tapping into the practice, ain't it ?

Oh yeah - the Chamber of Commerce party is going to save us all. You bet.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 30, 2020 09:48 AM (GKlaO)

408 Loeffler and Perdue won't even say boo over an obviously stolen
election, but I am to believe they'll put the brakes on whatever lunatic
diktat the Dems come up with?



Still not the argument being made. People ceding that you're right
and they're GOPe/CoC zombies. But there's still a fair amount of the
Dem agenda that GOPe/CoC opposes.


The level rationalization here is just stunning.

"They won't oppose the Chinese invading America but they are in favor of tax cuts."
Unbelievable.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 30, 2020 10:10 AM (3P/5p)

409 Corporate Socialism is how Mussolini described fascism.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 30, 2020 10:25 AM (1ISKN)

410 We're stronger together.

Posted by: A Bundle of Sticks at December 30, 2020 10:28 AM (yQpMk)

411
If Mike Pence were to toss out the electoral votes of those six states, or a combo of them enough to throw the vote to the House of Rep., he would WIN 2024's GOP Primary EASILY.

EASILY.

Posted by: Sapwolf at December 30, 2020 10:38 AM (u8u1w)

412 argues that the GOPers in Congress should not contest the electors and leave the heavy lifting to the veep

This makes it appear that the new idea is, in reality, a plan to enable the backstabbing, base-hating, anti-America, coup-orchestrating GOP Senate to dodge a public vote on the PDT electors and blame it on Pence.

If the GOP Senators do not compel a vote (every single one can do this) it will be because every single one of them is personally stealing the election and ending the republic.

As for Pence, sure, add now a documented fifth way the GOP had the Dems absolutely beat proving that the coup is at heart a Republican coup.

Posted by: Gilded at December 30, 2020 11:26 AM (BRkq2)

413 409, 411 true

Posted by: Gilded at December 30, 2020 11:28 AM (BRkq2)

414 "As I have often stated, the more dire the situation, the more unassailable the logic, the more massive the evidence, the more clear the remedy, the more you can count on any given Republican to ignore it all and do exactly the wrong thing."
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Knowingly. Intentionally.

Posted by: Gilded at December 30, 2020 11:43 AM (BRkq2)

415 "but only if the new bill includes the repeal of the Section 230 protections for Big Brother Tech."
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IF the GOP wanted to do this, they would have already done it when they had both chambers, SCOTUS, and PDT as a two-term POTUS.

Posted by: Gilded at December 30, 2020 11:51 AM (BRkq2)

416 Thanks for capping the Morning Report with a dollop of optimism.
I realize the odds are long that Pence will step up and do the right thing. But it helps me (and I imagine many others) to read that it's not implausible that he just may.
There is absolutely no question that the Constitution explicitly assigns the opening and the counting of the votes to the President of the Senate.
Moreover, this is precisely how our Republic has proceeded in counting votes for President since its founding.
And there is absolutely no question that the only recourse the Constitution provides for stopping any officer from exercising his powers of office (be he President, Senator, Supreme Court Justice, etc.) is through impeachment conviction requiring 2/3's of the Senate.
So if Mike Pence as presiding President of the Senate rules that contested electoral votes are fraudulent and therefore will not be counted as votes for a candidate: that's the end of that matter.
So we're going to find out what kind of man Mike Pence really is. Is he clear eyed and courageous? Or is he a cowardly swamp creature with scales encrusting his eyes?

Posted by: cold civil war at December 30, 2020 02:06 PM (Z2PYk)

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