The Morning Report - 12/22/20 [J.J. Sefton]

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Good morning, kids. Tuesday and we'll take a break this morning from the relatively hot, new insanity of societal death by stolen election to the average, ordinary run of the mill insanity of societal death by out of control national debt. I'm sure you'll be just thrilled to know that your Republican Party reached across the aisle and joined forces with the Democrats to pass a Chinese Coronavirus relief bill to help Americans get through this temporary emergency. Too bad the actual disease, bad as it is for some, is in fact no deadlier than many other respiratory viruses, the actual money being allocated to deserving citizens is a pittance and the temporary emergency that was only supposed to last two weeks is now in its 40th.

5,593 pages. And 6 hours for every member of Congress (at least the handful left in that den of iniquity who still have a shred of integrity) to read the bill before voting on it. But of course, anyone who opposes it is a cruel, evil, heartless bastard. And most likely a racist, white supremacist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, transphobic, phobophobic, Bible-thumping, deplorable bitter-clinger. I mean how could any decent person object to...

- $169,739,000 to Vietnam, including $19 million to remediate dioxins (page 1476).
- Unspecified funds to "continue support for not-for-profit institutions of higher education in Kabul, Afghanistan that are accessible to both women and men in a coeducational environment" (page 1477).
- $198,323,000 to Bangladesh, including $23.5 million to support Burmese refugees and - $23.3 million for "democracy programs" (page 1485).
- $130,265,000 to Nepal for "development and democracy programs" (page 1485).
Pakistan: $15 million for "democracy programs" and $10 million for "gender programs" (page 1486).
- Sri Lanka: Up to $15 million "for the refurbishing of a high endurance cutter," which is a type of patrol boat (page 1489).
- $505,925,000 to Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama to "address key factors that contribute to the migration of unaccompanied, undocumented minors to the United States" (pages 1490-1491).
- $461,375,000 to Colombia for programs related to counternarcotics and human rights (pages 1494-1496).
- $74.8 million to the "Caribbean Basin Security Initiative" (page 1497).
- $33 million "for democracy programs for Venezuela" (page 1497).
- Unspecified amount to Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Curacao, and Trinidad and Tobago "for assistance for communities in countries supporting or otherwise impacted by refugees from Venezuela" (page 1499).
- $132,025,000 "for assistance for Georgia" (page 1499).
- $453 million "for assistance for Ukraine" (page 1500).

And that's just what's being palletized and shipped overseas. Forget stealing an election. The fact that the average, decent taxpaying American citizen has not grabbed pitchforks, rope, tar and feathers and not burned Washington DC to the ground decades ago over the repeated fiscal insanity of no budgets, continuing resolutions, and multi-thousand page bills that have all kinds of mad power grabs buried in the fine print or even on page one such as the twin Romney-us and Ream-us of Obamacare and Dodd-Fagg, is nothing short of a miracle.

In the immortal words of Sonny Wortzik via Al Pacino, "we're dying out here." Bit by bit, our nation, our society, our way of life and the freedom to live that life as we see fit and as G-d gave us the ability to live it to its fullest are being stripped away from us. I don't know what's worse; the evil and corruption that is part and parcel of the Democrat Party, the media and the apparatchiks in government and the private sector that are bringing about our demise, or those allegedly on our side who for whatever reason have abrogated their oaths and lack the morals, ethics and character to defend us from this madness.

We're well on the way towards the endgame of "fundamental transformation." A warning, though, to those who have the upper hand. Fundamental transformation is a two-way street. Tens of millions of decent, G-d fearing Americans, who abhor violence at some point are not going to stay that way. Something's going to give. But if we continue to allow this to happen, we'll have no one but ourselves to blame when the inevitable collapse happens.

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1 Good morning!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 22, 2020 07:20 AM (Dc2NZ)

2 Good morning all!

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 07:21 AM (CrU4U)

3 Morning Horde!

Posted by: iandeal at December 22, 2020 07:22 AM (vgGyZ)

4 Wow... Perfect timing... now onto the content.

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 07:22 AM (CrU4U)

5 And Thanks J.J. Birthday today?

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 07:22 AM (CrU4U)

6 Thank you, J.J.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 22, 2020 07:24 AM (3D/fK)

7 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at December 22, 2020 07:24 AM (2f36A)

8 and a top 10 on the last day of work this year.

morning glories and JJ.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 07:24 AM (+NdM9)

9 For every one of those massive expenditures, x percent is going into the pockets of the politicians. That's why the numbers are so huge. I figure 20% at least is siphoned off by politicians, their lackeys, family, and friends.

Posted by: iandeal at December 22, 2020 07:24 AM (vgGyZ)

10 With giveaways like that to other countries.. anyone who says we are a nation that needs to be dismantled ought to be deported to the country of their choosing.

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 07:25 AM (CrU4U)

11 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 07:26 AM (5QBw6)

12 Romney is just the worst.

Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 07:26 AM (ZfRYq)

13 'Morning.

Can anyone please tell my why this bill has to include ANY foreign aid?

Was it a foreign aid bill that had the covid assistance tacked on, or did Pelosi and team really just decide to bail-out the entire f'ing world???

Posted by: Lizzy at December 22, 2020 07:27 AM (bDqIh)

14
$453,982,650 for the Hadrian the Seventh Welfare and Good Times Foundation. It's nice to have well-placed friends.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 07:27 AM (mht8P)

15 Am I banned?

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 22, 2020 07:27 AM (yEBFM)

16 And much of that foreign aid will return home to the bank accounts of relatives and cronies of the pols that pushed it through.

Posted by: Ersatz at December 22, 2020 07:28 AM (0uNz9)

17
Am I banned?
Posted by: Rosasharn at December 22, 2020 07:27 AM (yEBFM)

_________

If you said nothing, you wouldn't be.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 07:28 AM (mht8P)

18 I tried to say Good morning, but it didn't take. I guess it's not.

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 22, 2020 07:28 AM (yEBFM)

19 VETO the spending bills. Get all the pork corruption and crap out!

VETO

This is NOT the way to do business. Surprise legislation at the last moment. NO analysis, NO say, NO thought, NO debate. NO nothing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 22, 2020 07:30 AM (yTx7/)

20 Florida.

I have been saying De Santis 24 for a while.

Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 07:30 AM (ZfRYq)

21 That fuck nevertrumper gov of maryland is going full romney. Fuck him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 22, 2020 07:30 AM (yTx7/)

22 FUCK THE GOP.

Also, FUCK THE GOP.

Have I mentioned FUCK THE GOP yet?

If not, FUCK THE GOP.

Here's hoping Mitch McConnell lives just long enough to bury all of his children and grandchildren. Then, here's hoping he dies in a fire! FUCK TREASONOUS MITCH MCCONNELL, and FUCK THE GOP.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 22, 2020 07:31 AM (VDbGO)

23 If the GOP pacing [on early voting] holds up combined with their typical
turnout in runoff elections, they should be able to offset the
Democrats and win,' Georgia conservative commentator Erick Erickson
wrote.

That sounds strangely familiar. Of course Erickson saw no fraud in the November election.

Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 22, 2020 07:32 AM (J70i0)

24 Why do you think Uncle Sam is also well known as Uncle Sugar? The bucks, baby.... the almighty dollar...

Posted by: TxMarko at December 22, 2020 07:33 AM (xX/HT)

25 one of those type delete days

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 07:33 AM (nUhF0)

26 mornin' y'all

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at December 22, 2020 07:33 AM (6Pqz7)

27 It's not even other people's money. It's just paper.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:33 AM (urf1n)

28 Morning peeps.

A COVID relief bill for Americans should have been two or three sentences.

Period.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 22, 2020 07:34 AM (3H9h1)

29
Good job to MisHum and CBD last night in beating back the troll. When that troll copied, pasted, and posted mass junk, the only way to fight it on an old platform is for the COBs to catch it and nuke it asap.

It was like one of those ninja cartoons for a while.

If Ace wants to deputize some regulars, kinda like a militia, I'm sure we could take some of the load off until the troll goes away.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:34 AM (sy5kK)

30 27 It's not even other people's money. It's just paper.
Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:33 AM (urf1n)


electrons.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:35 AM (sy5kK)

31 Errorickson is a worm. I can't listen to him for more than 5 minutes without wanting to choke him with a tire iron.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:36 AM (urf1n)

32 This was never about COVID relief. It's like Obummercare - just another way to slap the proles around and show us who is boss.

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 22, 2020 07:36 AM (yEBFM)

33 I guess the pressers with Biden will submit your question before the news conference, and we will pick the questions Biden will answer. We have a list of what reporters are allowed to ask any questions.
No more screaming questions at Trump in the cards for Biden.

Posted by: Colin at December 22, 2020 07:36 AM (RMFfD)

34
Electrons have consequences...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 22, 2020 07:36 AM (s2VJv)

35 Erikson on his radio show: You are wrecking the country. I don't care if you light up my
phone or my email. You need to pay attention to me. You don't know
what you are talking about. There is nothing wrong with Dominion. Did
you know? Did you know? Did you know? No, you didn't know. And you
are sowing discord in the country. Not the democrats, you. I've got
people wanting to yell at me right now. It's time for you people to
move on. There is no voter fraud, period. You need to get behind Kelly
Loeffler and David Perdue right now or just go curl up in the fetal
position and suck your thumbs, I don't care. But if Kelly Loeffler and
David Perdue lose, it's your fault. You let the republicans down.

He's worthless.

Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 22, 2020 07:36 AM (J70i0)

36 20 Florida.

I have been saying De Santis 24 for a while.
Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 07:30 AM (ZfRYq)


De Santis/Kristy Noem 2024

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:37 AM (sy5kK)

37 I'm reminded of the scene at Pleasure Island in Walt Disney's Pinocchio. The apparent defeat of Trump has driven them into a kind of lustful greedy madness.

Now if only we could effect their literal transformation to jackasses.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 07:38 AM (H8QX8)

38 I am becoming more convinced that going to DC on 1/6 is the right thing to do.

I don't know what it will do. Surely no one in Congress in either party cares much about what we think.

But it seems like the right thing to do.

Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 07:38 AM (ZfRYq)

39
It's not even other people's money. It's just paper.
Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:33 AM (urf1n)


electrons.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:35 AM (sy5kK)

________

Neutrinos

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 07:38 AM (mht8P)

40 "electrons.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg "

True dat. Saving de planet fo de chilluns.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:39 AM (urf1n)

41 De Santis/Kristy Noem 2024

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:37 AM (sy5kK)

You guys are too funny. We've removed beating the margin of fraud. But keep voting harder suckers.

Posted by: The Establishment at December 22, 2020 07:39 AM (J70i0)

42 28 Morning peeps.

A COVID relief bill for Americans should have been two or three sentences.

Period.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 22, 2020 07:34 AM (3H9h1)


But a couple of paragraphs for Pakistani gender studies.
not a joke.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:39 AM (sy5kK)

43 De Santis/Kristy Noem 2024
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:37 AM (sy5kK)


Yes. A return to governors in the executive.

Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 07:39 AM (ZfRYq)

44 these bastards think they are isolated and insulated from the escalation of the civil war we are currently in. For that, I think their arrogance will cost them. This insanity won't stop until it actually cost one of these bastards something they hold dear to themselves.

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 07:40 AM (CrU4U)

45 It should go without saying that everyone who voted without having read the entire bill is guilty of treason.

Posted by: Gilded at December 22, 2020 07:40 AM (Q7A+E)

46 You guys are too funny. We've removed beating the margin of fraud. But keep voting harder suckers.
Posted by: The Establishment at December 22, 2020 07:39 AM (J70i0)


Oh, I know.

A person can dream though.

Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 07:40 AM (ZfRYq)

47 So will Trump veto?

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 07:41 AM (H8QX8)

48 "But if Kelly Loeffler and
David Perdue lose, it's your fault. You let the republicans down."

See? I can't even read what the guy says without wanting to go up to Bass Rd and burn his house down.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:41 AM (urf1n)

49 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 07:42 AM (arJlL)

50 Double wide double E sounds as dumb as Patterico. Keep doing the same thing and expect different results, Einstein. Radio stations actually carry him?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 07:42 AM (y7DUB)

51 Have a great day, all!
I'm going to have some tea and yummy shortbread son and I made last night, and chill.

Great post as always, JJ, but I gotta avoid negativity.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 22, 2020 07:43 AM (bDqIh)

52 I am becoming more convinced that going to DC on 1/6 is the right thing to do.

I don't know what it will do. Surely no one in Congress in either party cares much about what we think.

But it seems like the right thing to do.
Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 07:38 AM (ZfRYq)

Blockade the roads. No food beer liquor Amazon deliveries in or out.

Peaceful like.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 22, 2020 07:43 AM (XH/UL)

53 Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and his wife helped buy the presidency
for the increasingly frail and feeble former Vice President Joe Biden by
improperly influencing election officials as they strategically flooded
left-wing activist groups with more than $400 million during the 2020
election cycle.


Huh. There's a shocker. But, by all means, morons, keep using Facebook (and Google, and Twitter, et al).

Posted by: fly at December 22, 2020 07:43 AM (c1sSU)

54
How can GA use the same corrupt voting machines and drop boxes they used in the corrupt voting last month?

It makes no sense whatsoever. Like not changing the software to the 737 Max and forcing people to get on the planes.
You absolutely know what is going to happen.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:43 AM (sy5kK)

55
What's the fraction of this monstrosity going to Americans without distinction and what fraction is going to foreigners and friends of legislators?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 07:44 AM (mht8P)

56 Now if only we could effect their literal transformation to jackasses.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 07:38 AM (H8QX


Been that way for decades. Now to get most to see it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 22, 2020 07:44 AM (fIHXk)

57 I know we aren't supposed to do math here... but... the % of dollars that actually go to the people that really need it are really small. Our govt is the biggest middle man EVAHA.

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 07:44 AM (CrU4U)

58 Good morning all

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 22, 2020 07:44 AM (9Oc7e)

59 Moronin, Hourde!

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at December 22, 2020 07:44 AM (u7pQw)

60 I'll make a deal with you President Trump. Veto this bill and I will drive back up to DC for your rally.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:44 AM (urf1n)

61
At least we averted a government shutdown and spared federal workers the nightmare of being furloughed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 07:45 AM (mht8P)

62 Jeepers, Eris !

You're racking up Firsts left and right !

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 07:45 AM (arJlL)

63 50 Double wide double E sounds as dumb as Patterico. Keep doing the same thing and expect different results, Einstein. Radio stations actually carry him?
Posted by: Captain Hate



Yes. Not sure anybody listens to him but he's carried.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 22, 2020 07:45 AM (X8McB)

64 What ever happened to the trillion dollar coin that was talked about a couple years ago. Did the treasury give up on the idea, or they just decide if it should be gold or silver.

Posted by: Colin at December 22, 2020 07:46 AM (RMFfD)

65 Moronin, Hourde!
Posted by: Hans O'Lo

O'Hiya !

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 07:46 AM (arJlL)

66
The outrage is not what Erik Erickson says, but it's that he is allowed a platform to say it.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 22, 2020 07:46 AM (sy5kK)

67 @47

Probably not, he's essentially fighting for his life, getting into a fight withe degenerate pigs over what side of the poop deck to line up the chairs on a sinking ship are not his top priorities.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 07:46 AM (5xQgm)

68 The covid 'relief' bill is the finest example and provides the clearest line of demarcation between the parasites (our rulers) and the host (us).

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 22, 2020 07:46 AM (l1C8z)

69 "Radio stations actually carry him? "

WSB in Atlanta and our local station. 3 hours of his shit on the local one. That's why I stream Chris Plante when I can.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:48 AM (urf1n)

70 Old and tired: pocket veto
Hot and spicy: rocket veto

Posted by: DYI SMOD at December 22, 2020 07:48 AM (Q7A+E)

71 Mufti of Jerusalem: Temple Mount "is Islamic and Only for Muslims"
_________________

Muhammad, founder of islam, never set foot in Jerusalem or on Temple Mount, in his entire life.

The only connection Muhammad had to Temple Mount was a "visit" he made there, on a flying horse, in a dream.

But somehow Muhammad's dream or hallucination or fantasy or whatever it was is supposed to trump the fact that Jews have thousands of years of real, actual history at Temple Mount.

Muslims are massively self-deluded people, and their insistence that they somehow have a greater claim to Temple Mount because of Muhammad's flying-horse dream, is just more proof of how insane these people are.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 22, 2020 07:48 AM (k4dH2)

72 Probably not, he's essentially fighting for his life, getting into a fight withe degenerate pigs over what side of the poop deck to line up the chairs on a sinking ship are not his top priorities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 07:46 AM (5xQgm)

I think he must. The degenerate pigs already hate him. Caving to this egregious insult would deflate his troops.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 07:48 AM (H8QX8)

73 Did the treasury give up on the idea, or they just decide if it should be gold or silver.
Posted by: Colin at December 22, 2020 07:46 AM (RMFfD)

Platinum.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 22, 2020 07:49 AM (XH/UL)

74 We've removed beating the margin of fraud. But keep voting harder suckers.
Posted by: The Establishment

I'd vote for that ticket, cheat or no.

I won't vote for Rubio, Jeb, Mittens, or any GOPe.

Anyone who didn't stand up for Trump is not worth trouble of voting.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 07:49 AM (L3Rsz)

75 Something a commenter named elmo said yesterday has stuck with me. I am not afraid to die, he said, but I am afraid to watch my country die. I agree. I feel like screaming at random people, Don't you know what's coming?? Too Cassandra-esque for me.

Posted by: jmel at December 22, 2020 07:49 AM (bVhJi)

76 "Did the treasury give up on the idea, or they just decide if it should be gold or silver. "

Sustainable, renewable cardboard.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:50 AM (urf1n)

77 Probably not, he's essentially fighting for his life, getting into a fight withe degenerate pigs over what side of the poop deck to line up the chairs on a sinking ship are not his top priorities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 07:46 AM (5xQgm)


I hope he does it anyway as a sign that he hasn't given up the fight.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 07:50 AM (y7DUB)

78 Christmas cookies for breakfast.

Are we bankrupt yet?

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 22, 2020 07:51 AM (aD5Lz)

79
Blackburn
Cruz
Johnson
Lee
Paul
Scott

Senators who voted against relief package.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 22, 2020 07:51 AM (l1C8z)

80 Excellent job today, JJ
Thank you sir

Hey. Who the hell wrote that porkathon covidicated novel
It took months to edit that tome

Shrimp on a treadmill indeed

This is clear indictment all congress is united in their very own state, and we aint included.

Posted by: CarpetheadLarRo at December 22, 2020 07:52 AM (+ITg4)

81 even AOC is against the bill:

[i\]
@AOC

14h
This is why Congress needs time to actually read this package before voting on it.

Members of Congress have not read this bill. It's over 5000 pages, arrived at 2pm today, and we are told to expect a vote on it in 2 hours.

This isn't governance. It's hostage-taking.


although on her pwrt she decries the defense, space force, Wall, etc allocations

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 07:52 AM (nUhF0)

82 I agree. I feel like screaming at random people, Don't you know what's coming?? Too Cassandra-esque for me.
Posted by: jmel

Put on a raincoat with no pants and stand on the corner and go psssst.

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 07:52 AM (arJlL)

83 oh stupid failed tag

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 07:52 AM (nUhF0)

84 Blackburn
Cruz
Johnson
Lee
Paul
Scott

Senators who voted against relief package.
Posted by: squeakywheel

Sad not to see Hawley's name on this list.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 07:53 AM (L3Rsz)

85 Republicans See Encouraging Signs for Their Campaigns in Georgia Senate Run-off Races
_________

Why THE POLLS say they are ahead. And surely no one today can question polls?

If I lived in GA, I would suppress my feelings and vote for the two worthless sacks of shit. But I sure wouldn't enjoy doing it. And that cannot go on. It's been the case my entire life. There have been damned few times I left a voting booth without feeling ashamed of myself. I knew I'd been had.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 07:53 AM (7X3UV)

86 Muslims are massively self-deluded people, and their insistence that they somehow have a greater claim to Temple Mount because of Muhammad's flying-horse dream, is just more proof of how insane these people are.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 22, 2020 07:48 AM (k4dH2)


The NOI had to try hard to be nuttier than the originals but it's a rare case of the bowtied loons overachieving.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 07:53 AM (y7DUB)

87 Morning.

Can anyone please tell my why this bill has to include ANY foreign aid?

Was it a foreign aid bill that had the covid assistance tacked on, or did Pelosi and team really just decide to bail-out the entire f'ing world???
Posted by: Lizzy at December 22, 2020 07:27 AM (bDqIh)

I wish PDJT would veto this bill and then make a major press conference listing exactly why and with what spending crap is in here. make it so the "news media" can't hide it. say he's going to make an announcement about stepping down, or martial law, or somethign that will force them to tune in.

idk.

I was so pissed last night watching this horseshit unfold. I really don't get the point of voting in GA. why? so we can be fuck over again and again by romney murkowski, collins et al? why fucking bother.

luckily i'm not in GA so it doesn't matter anyway...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 07:53 AM (+NdM9)

88 I agree. I feel like screaming at random people, Don't you know what's coming?? Too Cassandra-esque for me.
Posted by: jmel

I feel like a gjost

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 07:53 AM (nUhF0)

89 Can't wait to see who stands up for election integrity on January 6.

Posted by: Ziba at December 22, 2020 07:54 AM (S1hrL)

90 Most disgusting was Schumer saying "This bill was less than the Democrats wanted, and more than the Republicans wanted". When Congress is stormed, Schumer will be a star player.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:54 AM (urf1n)

91 I feel like a gjost
Posted by: vmom Trump Won!

is that a ghost from Norwegia ?

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 07:54 AM (arJlL)

92 "But if we continue to allow this to happen, we'll have no one but ourselves to blame when the inevitable collapse happens."

I hear a lot of people and their lip service here on this site but I don't hear anyone suggesting how we stop the destruction of the country?

Posted by: sidney at December 22, 2020 07:55 AM (7/kmB)

93 Senators who voted against relief package.
Posted by: squeakywheel

Sad not to see Hawley's name on this list.
Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 07:53 AM

Kennedy of Louisiana too.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at December 22, 2020 07:55 AM (2GPSc)

94 why fucking bother.

luckily i'm not in GA so it doesn't matter anyway...
Posted by: SturmToddler

The ONLY reason I would vote, were I a Georgian, would be to annoy Chuck Schumer. Some entertainment value there.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 07:55 AM (L3Rsz)

95 Senators who voted against relief package.
Posted by: squeakywheel

Sad not to see Hawley's name on this list.
Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 07:53 AM (L3Rsz)


Severe conservative Sassy Pants voted for it? Where's the fainting couch?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 07:55 AM (y7DUB)

96
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 22, 2020 07:55 AM (k8Sei)

97 Anybody in congress vote against this steaming pile of Biden?

Posted by: The real reason for the 2nd at December 22, 2020 07:55 AM (Vgwo7)

98 Kennedy of Louisiana too.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones

You're right! Sheesh...these guys.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 07:55 AM (L3Rsz)

99 Newest "Squad" Member Jamaal Bowman: Capitalism is "Slavery by Another Name"
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How long before one of them comes up with the idea that privileged people be sold into slavery, because equity?

Gotta happen. And sooner, not later.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 07:56 AM (7X3UV)

100 is that a ghost from Norwegia ?
Posted by: JT

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Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 07:56 AM (nUhF0)

101 Good morning morons and happy birthday JJ.

I chuckle at discussion of "election integrity" and voting fraud, etc.

Elections don't matter. They don't want your vote. They don't need your vote. Focusing on winning elections is a distraction.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 22, 2020 07:56 AM (EZebt)

102 "I hear a lot of people and their lip service here on this site but I don't hear anyone suggesting how we stop the destruction of the country?"


Most of us don't want to get banned again.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:57 AM (urf1n)

103 @79

The only reason they probably voted against it was it's lack of H1B visa and green card giveaways to BigTech.


At this point our debt is 27 trillion dollars and a per taxpayer share of 220k, it's literally unrepayable by any means that don't involve the words, abra cadabra.


I've gone in the wayback machine to 20012 and have found some of my comments decrying the then 10 trillion dollar debt and what the degenerate pigs were foisting on us back then.


The GOP is a useless pile of Dog Shit.

They are not the answer to any problems we face.

The party needs to be replaced by an America First/Nationalist party, been saying that for a long time as well.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 07:57 AM (5xQgm)

104 the GOP voted for it for the same reason the Dems did - it's loaded with pork on both sides

everyone wins! except us dumbass masses

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 07:58 AM (nUhF0)

105 why fucking bother.

luckily i'm not in GA so it doesn't matter anyway...
Posted by: SturmToddler

The ONLY reason I would vote, were I a Georgian, would be to annoy Chuck Schumer. Some entertainment value there.
Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 07:55 AM (L3Rsz)

yeah, IF i lived in GA, i'd hold my nose and vote for them. but lucky for me, i've voted gop for the last time in my life.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 07:58 AM (+NdM9)

106 the 10th anniversary of the Affordable Health Care Act.

This has fuck my family over about 10 different ways. I had a great plan that was catastrophic coverage. About 250/mth. I paid cash and wrote off everything on taxes. Then no more plans like that. So I went to a basic plan at about 600/mth. That plan just went to 1400/mth.

The last time I had a house note it was less than that.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 07:58 AM (5QBw6)

107 Jamaal Bowman: Capitalism is "Slavery by Another Name"

Posted by: Eeyore

Jamal should change his riff: Public Education (without school choice) is slavery by another name.

It'd mean more to the slaves, ya know.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 07:59 AM (L3Rsz)

108 Morning Mouth Breathers


I have already voted for the two useless turds.

weirdwife says she can't do it because of the fraud but she might in the end because she's afraid I'll be angry with her if she doesn't. Pshaw! Do what you feel is right.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 22, 2020 07:59 AM (cknjq)

109 Ok. Since they are gonna Cloward Piven us to our deaths, I am going to hope and pray and dream that if, IF Trump does concede,

He pardons all of us on his way out the door for non payment of taxes for the rest of our lives.

That or he EO's out of existence federal taxes.

Call me a dreamer.

Posted by: Derak at December 22, 2020 07:59 AM (wd72I)

110 So, the vast majority of Trump's voters are still acknowledging this election was fraudulently stolen. Even 7 weeks later. That's a whole lot of bad blood brewing. One the one hand, I am glad to see this. We are not being bamboozled by the lies. We know what they did, we know what happened. What that portends for the health and stability of this country is still undetermined, but my wish is for this to cause a giant explosion within the body politic, and all of Washington as the American people give them all the middle finger. How (and if) that happens is the only unknown factor. All I know is that if there is a chance for America to survive, this fraud, this phony "president Biden win" must not be allowed to stand. Extreme circumstances call for extreme measures. I can't think of anything that applies more now after what they've done.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 07:59 AM (O+I8R)

111 I hear a lot of people and their lip service here on this site but I don't hear anyone suggesting how we stop the destruction of the country?

read or "hear" between the lines....

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 07:59 AM (CrU4U)

112 "The 10th anniversary of the Affordable Health Care Act"


Let us not forget to thank John Roberts.

Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 08:00 AM (urf1n)

113 although on her pwrt she decries the defense, space force, Wall, etc allocations
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 07:52 AM (nUhF0)


And yet she voted for it.

Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 08:01 AM (ZfRYq)

114 Most disgusting was Schumer saying "This bill was less than the Democrats wanted, and more than the Republicans wanted". When Congress is stormed, Schumer will be a star player.
Posted by: f'd at December 22, 2020 07:54 AM (urf1n)


Still waiting for Shecky to say one fucking word against the Cuomo/DeBlasio pogroms.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 08:01 AM (y7DUB)

115 We MUST elect the backstabbing criminal GOP candidates in GA or the Democrats will pass this "covid" porkulus.

A Republican Senate would have stopped this cold.

Posted by: DIY SMOD at December 22, 2020 08:01 AM (Q7A+E)

116 Stealing an election.
Stealing our money.
Stealing our freedom.
Stealing our country from us.

Happy Rapey Tuesday indeed.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:02 AM (nakwk)

117 First!
Thanks, JJ.

Posted by: Pakistani Gender Studies at December 22, 2020 08:02 AM (jV+aN)

118 Jamaal Bowman: Capitalism is "Slavery by Another Name"

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Nothing bores me more than to read yet another dunce's proclamations that a free capitalist society is slavery. Much better are the shackles of government, who lives on high, yet doles out crumbs to the masses. Oh yes, so much better.

How can people be so dense, so dumb? I'll never understand.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:02 AM (O+I8R)

119 How many billions are going to other countries? But hey we get 700$(?) checks to help us out.

Anyone here have a 700$ mortgage? Me neither.

Congress is as useless as it is corrupt. I hope Trump vetoes this.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 22, 2020 08:03 AM (IYHxL)

120 Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 07:59 AM (O+I8R)

you're right, and i have small bits of hope here and there, what with the various small businesses pushing back against these insane lockdowns. I think that might be the catalyst, people know the election was stolen, they see these insane edicts but know they aren't serfs, and hopefully put 2 & 2 together and decide to not take it any more.

however, i've seen so many who will happily live like cattle so long as they have "safety". I'm not hopeful.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:03 AM (+NdM9)

121 Happy Rapey Tuesday indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac

Well, at least the daylight is getting longer now. Little things, ya know.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:03 AM (L3Rsz)

122 Hiya Insom !

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 08:04 AM (arJlL)

123 I hear a lot of people and their lip service here on this site but I don't hear anyone suggesting how we stop the destruction of the country?

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Then you don't hang around much. There are a lot of people here who have suggestions about what must be done. Problem is, we aren't elected officials. We have no power. Now do you have any suggestions on how to overcome that?

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:04 AM (O+I8R)

124 How many billions are going to other countries? But hey we get 700$(?) checks to help us out.

Anyone here have a 700$ mortgage? Me neither.

Congress is as useless as it is corrupt. I hope Trump vetoes this.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 22, 2020 08:03 AM (IYHxL)

apparently, i don't even get a check, since they put a ceiling on who is eligible.

so, yay me...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:04 AM (+NdM9)

125 Too cloudy here to see that 'Christmas Star' last night. I'm sure it was cool looking.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 22, 2020 08:05 AM (X8McB)

126 Was just told by HR that the 6.2% Social Security taxes that have not been withheld for several months must be deducted from paychecks before April 15th. I don't mind because I want to pay for Honduran vegan transgender education initiatives.

Posted by: dri at December 22, 2020 08:05 AM (gaSe+)

127 But all those hundreds of windmills only generate about 15% of Texas electricity.

Thats about 28,000 MW. So the dirty little secret is that we have built another 28,000 MW in plants powered by natural gas to back up the Windmills.

All Wind power cost at least 2X the number stated as you must build a matching gas or coal plant to back up the wind.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 08:05 AM (5QBw6)

128 It was like one of those ninja cartoons for a while.

He/she was still at when I signed off around 9:45. Tried very hard to ignore it but that's so obnoxious.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 22, 2020 08:06 AM (nxdel)

129 Tulsi Gabbard Rips Into "Unelected Bureaucrats" for Vaccine Rollout That Skips Over Elderly
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I'd happily trade her for Romney or Murkowski.

No, make that "and".

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:06 AM (7X3UV)

130 121 Happy Rapey Tuesday indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac

Well, at least the daylight is getting longer now. Little things, ya know.
Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:03 AM (L3Rsz)

All about the perspective, eh?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:06 AM (nakwk)

131 Too cloudy here to see that 'Christmas Star' last night. I'm sure it was cool looking.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Same here.

Will it be back tonight ?

Or does it go back in the box ?

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 08:06 AM (arJlL)

132 Hiya JT! Que pasa?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:06 AM (nakwk)

133 "I hear a lot of people and their lip service here on this site but I don't hear anyone suggesting how we stop the destruction of the country?"

Article V. It's what the Founders included in the Constitution to remedy what's happened. Look at the electoral map and figure out what would happen. I'd be in favor of going back to the original Constitution and Bill of Rights. Eliminate the administrative state and every fucking agency that was created by Congress. And yes, that means fuck off DOJ.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 08:07 AM (y7DUB)

134 however, i've seen so many who will happily live like cattle so long as they have "safety". I'm not hopeful.
Posted by: SturmToddler

Me neither.

Covid has completely disabused me of the notion that we are a nation (mostly) of freedom-loving people. People who'd die for liberty.

Naw, we'll wear our masks, ruin livelihoods, and neglect family all in the name of safety. And like it. Even when we know better.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:07 AM (L3Rsz)

135 Top U.S. Tech Execs Attended Conference Sponsored By Chinese Communist Group Which Pushed Chinese COVID Dis-Info Campaign
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Don't you know that disinfomation can come only from the Right?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:07 AM (7X3UV)

136 All about the perspective, eh?
Posted by: Insomniac

It can be. Momentarily, anyway.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:08 AM (L3Rsz)

137 107 Jamaal Bowman: Capitalism is "Slavery by Another Name"
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When are the Republican mega donors and tech oligarchs -- who are overthrowing a duly elected president -- going to stop making this loser's point for him?

Posted by: Gilded at December 22, 2020 08:08 AM (Q7A+E)

138 Hiya JT! Que pasa?
Posted by: Insomniac

Nother day above de dirt !

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 08:09 AM (arJlL)

139 All about the perspective, eh?
Posted by: Insomniac

It can be. Momentarily, anyway.
Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:08 AM (L3Rsz)

you can even force it, if you draw the lines correctly...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:09 AM (+NdM9)

140 US Tech Execs have practically become just as powerful as the most powerful politicians in Washington. They're now the unofficial 4th branch of gov't. You'd think someone would do something about it. You'd think...

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:09 AM (O+I8R)

141 131 Too cloudy here to see that 'Christmas Star' last night. I'm sure it was cool looking.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Same here.

Will it be back tonight ?

Or does it go back in the box ?
Posted by: JT



No. The next time will be far decades from now. By then, among the Ruins, roving tribes will gaze upon it and tell stories of the Great Collapse of Western Civilization and the resulting Burning Times.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 22, 2020 08:10 AM (X8McB)

142 138 Hiya JT! Que pasa?
Posted by: Insomniac

Nother day above de dirt !
Posted by: JT at December 22, 2020 08:09 AM (arJlL)

That it is, that it is. Although we do seem to be up to our asses in alligators at the moment.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:10 AM (nakwk)

143 I did not see a Christmas Star last evening. What I did see when I went out was two planets, one brighter than the other, seemingly close to each other, but with a pencil-width gap between them.

Posted by: fly at December 22, 2020 08:10 AM (c1sSU)

144 Yes, but the repeal of Section 230 doesn't fit in the NDA.

Sure Congress. I know. We "had" to do this. For the children. Of Communist Vietnam.

*makes jerking motion with hand*

Posted by: Marcus T at December 22, 2020 08:10 AM (BvKrx)

145 My fellow Senators and members of the "Mild Opposition" wing of the UniParty may I remind you that second place graft is far better than the "no graft at all" we might get under an honest administration!

Posted by: Cocaine Mitch at December 22, 2020 08:11 AM (87oRe)

146 Too cloudy here to see that 'Christmas Star' last night. I'm sure it was cool looking.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Same here.

Will it be back tonight ?

Or does it go back in the box ?
Posted by: JT


No. The next time will be far decades from now. By then, among the Ruins, roving tribes will gaze upon it and tell stories of the Great Collapse of Western Civilization and the resulting Burning Times.
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 22, 2020 08:10 AM (X8McB)

same, too cloudy here in the tidewater, but i got some great pics onlline.

and i believe while not as close, they will only be separated by a degree or two, so it'll be similar i would think.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:11 AM (+NdM9)

147 Christian Toto: "Even the glorious Gal Gadot can't save this shameful superhero sequel."
Wonder Woman 1984 -- Woke, Wobbly and the Year's Most Shocking Dud
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Could've been worse. Remember when there was a suggestion that Amy Schumer get the role?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:12 AM (7X3UV)

148 Too cloudy here to see that 'Christmas Star' last night. I'm sure it was cool looking.

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We saw it here, but it was unfortunately obscured through our backyard woods. It was lower in the sky than I'd thought it would be. I had to laugh at Mr. Black though. I emphatically said, "there it is." He thought it was further off to the left. I kept telling him he was seeing a flood light. He eventually agreed with me and then felt stupid.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:12 AM (O+I8R)

149 116 Stealing an election.
Stealing our money.
Stealing our freedom.
Stealing our country from us.

Happy Rapey Tuesday indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:02 AM (nakwk)

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BOHICA x eleventy

How are you doing?

Posted by: SMH at December 22, 2020 08:12 AM (RU4sa)

150 Ted Cruz voted nay on covidpork
I just wrote and thanked him and it went thru
I did try cornnybutt again to whisper those two magic words of endearment into his ear. ///as opposed to pissing in it///. And I got thru

Posted by: CarpetheadLarRo at December 22, 2020 08:13 AM (+ITg4)

151 > "I hear a lot of people and their lip service here on this site but I don't hear anyone suggesting how we stop the destruction of the country?"

About 80 million voters are disenfranchised. I wonder what would happen if all of them decided to forego paying taxes next April? File extensions. Whatever.

The Fed expects that money on time. It'd be a shame if the Fed's budgeting schedule got all mucked up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 22, 2020 08:13 AM (3H9h1)

152 the 600 is a twofold purpose

you can have your other 600 after you're vaccinated

you can talk about how lousy this 600 is while they continue stealing the election

Posted by: DUDE MAN BROSKI at December 22, 2020 08:13 AM (y4AnJ)

153
Teachers here in Texas are screaming to go to the front of the vaccinations line. Fine, if you're vaccinated, you go back to in-class teaching AND SHUT UP!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 08:14 AM (mht8P)

154 apparently, i don't even get a check, since they put a ceiling on who is eligible.
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Yeah, there are a lot of the 300 million who aren't 'qualified' to get the $600.

That means this porkulus was even more porky, if possible.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 22, 2020 08:15 AM (l1C8z)

155 you can even force it, if you draw the lines correctly...
Posted by: SturmToddler

True.

Fer instance, on the porky-pie they're serving up.

You could thing that it just gets us that much closer to a financial crash, which is going to be necessary to rebuild liberty back into the system. To get back to sound money. A positive!

Of course, your perspective COULD be that a financial crash will be the end of a happy life, as all your stuff will go bye-bye. A negative. Who really wants to start over?

It really is a difficult thing for those of us who've lived so very well for so very long, to make peace with what needs doing.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:15 AM (L3Rsz)

156 We saw the conjunction junction in the back yard, just above the steeple.

It was cool seeing Jupiter's four moons through the hub's telescope.

Posted by: SMH at December 22, 2020 08:15 AM (RU4sa)

157 153
Teachers here in Texas are screaming to go to the front of the vaccinations line. Fine, if you're vaccinated, you go back to in-class teaching AND SHUT UP!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 08:14 AM (mht8P)

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This^

Posted by: SMH at December 22, 2020 08:15 AM (RU4sa)

158 Teachers here in Texas are screaming to go to the front of the vaccinations line. Fine, if you're vaccinated, you go back to in-class teaching AND SHUT UP!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 08:14 AM

Further proof of the idiots populating our education system.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at December 22, 2020 08:16 AM (2GPSc)

159 We saw the two planets very close together. It was lower in the sky than I thought it would be and not as bright. Although, I do live in the city.

Posted by: Quirky bookworm at December 22, 2020 08:17 AM (EbJ6H)

160 It was cool seeing Jupiter's four moons through the hub's telescope.

Posted by: SMH

How neat! I was going to get my telescope out, but the darn clouds rolled in with high winds in the afternoon. Tonight looks more promising.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:17 AM (L3Rsz)

161
Now listening to the Piano Concerto in A flat of Johann Nepomuk Hummel. Something to calm me down.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 08:18 AM (mht8P)

162 149 116 Stealing an election.
Stealing our money.
Stealing our freedom.
Stealing our country from us.

Happy Rapey Tuesday indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:02 AM (nakwk)

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BOHICA x eleventy

How are you doing?
Posted by: SMH at December 22, 2020 08:12 AM (RU4sa)

Hey SMH! I'm hanging in. Yesterday was a Kafkaesque doozy of a day at work and I don't think today's going to be much of an improvement, but we shall see. How are you doing?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:18 AM (nakwk)

163 Thank you J.J. -- I love you like a one-year older brother (and hope we meet some day), and love the horde in general, which has helped me maintain some vestige of mental health.



This morning for the first time in five years, I can't bear to read any of the headlines. Like I (and others) have been saying, it's all humiliation theater now as they prepare us for gulag.


My one recommendation (I've reiterated a couple of times since the election was stolen) is to -- if you're going to stay instead of flee (in the back of my mind, as I fled Califzuela 7 years ago) -- form a Neighborhood Protection/Preparedness Group. Buy and read the 2-volume "Civil Defense Manual" by Jack Lawson (pseudonym of a former Special Ops veteran) and others.


Join an area group of like-minded individuals if you can find one (I've joined our county chapter of Oath Keepers). If it isn't clear to you now: YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. Prepare and act accordingly ... my heart is broken and my hope for America is now dead -- stake through the heart -- but I have no choice but try to keep myself, family, friends, and community alive or die trying (and take out as many commies as I can before they murder me).

Posted by: ShainS at December 22, 2020 08:19 AM (WqPYg)

164 you can even force it, if you draw the lines correctly...
Posted by: SturmToddler

True.

Fer instance, on the porky-pie they're serving up.

You could thing that it just gets us that much closer to a financial crash, which is going to be necessary to rebuild liberty back into the system. To get back to sound money. A positive!

Of course, your perspective COULD be that a financial crash will be the end of a happy life, as all your stuff will go bye-bye. A negative. Who really wants to start over?

It really is a difficult thing for those of us who've lived so very well for so very long, to make peace with what needs doing.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:15 AM (L3Rsz)

I suppose it is too early for an art joke...

but you're right. we probably do need a crash the likes of which we haven't seen before. it will be ugly. and it will be a wake up call to LOTS of people. but it's probably necessary.

and for that i'm sad. I have the distinct feeling my boy will turn out ok at the end, but it's going to be rougher for him than i ever thought possible.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:19 AM (+NdM9)

165 If Trump continues to seek support and/or salvation from other entities or bodies of government which are obviously corrupted and despise him...

.. if does not ultimately invoke the Insurrection Act or exercise some comparable form of executive branch power to confront the corruption and criminality engorging itself on our nation...

... if he finally concedes and doesn't at least offer up an outgoing blistering jeremiad against the deep state, the GOPe and the media and a vow to keep fighting them...

..then he'll have declared it was all a waste of time.

MAGA, an ephemeral economic phenomenon, will vanish like a morning mist.

There was apparently never any plan to identity, disable or defeat the cultural Marxist dominion.

Indeed, if anything, he'll have empowered it and advanced its interests in destroying our country.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 08:19 AM (H8QX8)

166 US Tech Execs have practically become just as powerful as the most powerful politicians in Washington. They're now the unofficial 4th branch of gov't. You'd think someone would do something about it. You'd think...
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:09 AM (O+I8R)


Anyone working in IT that was paying attention in, say, the 90s, could see this coming. Being sold out by all the other sectors has been just as hard to swallow. Every fucking four years I bitch about Iowa going first in the primaries so a bunch of corn fed oafs like Chuck Grassley can stump for ethanol. But we have to protect THE FARMERS. LOLGF; they're as good as anyone at racking up the subsidies and anyone saying otherwise doesn't know any farmers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 08:20 AM (y7DUB)

167 Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:17 AM (L3Rsz)

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Hope you get to see it. : )

Posted by: SMH at December 22, 2020 08:20 AM (RU4sa)

168 Some of this stuff in the bill makes absolutely no sense.

I'm sure it is pet projects by the lobbyists, but it's just weird because these projects make no sense.

I would like some research on how far the rabbit hole goes as to why this money was put into this bill for this and who lobbied for it.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 08:21 AM (NpAcC)

169 Morning friends! Yesterday I mentioned my Trump-loving friend who lost her husband in a tragic car accident on Sunday morning. It's truly a miracle her and the kids survived. They don't have a lot of money, and now have zero sources of income, if you feel inclined to help, here is the go fund me link.

https://gofund.me/37183e32

Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at December 22, 2020 08:21 AM (xU7mE)

170 Good Morning,

We saw the Christmas star last night, and it was reflecting off of our lake. Absolutely Breathtaking. It brought me hope.

Posted by: spypeach at December 22, 2020 08:21 AM (Up/Jb)

171 Reporters "Frustrated" Joe Biden Avoiding Questions on Hunter Biden Investigation
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That was the best laugh of the morning.

They made their bed, let them sleep in it.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:22 AM (7X3UV)

172 I can't even begin to put into words the absolute disgust and rage that is boiling within me. Our Government, our Political Elite, our Media. Just using everyone of us for their own gains. I'm not playing their game anymore. I see the struggling people everyday here. It's shameful that in America, through no fault of their own, too many of our people are in dire straights financially and emotionally. From small businesses that are closed to the people who fall between the cracks of unemployment and lack of future unemployment opportunities. A measly $600 in stimulus while the politicians give BILLIONS to foreign entities. Our money, you fucks. Both Repubs and Dem politicians tell us they are working so hard for us while they collect their salaries and suffer absolutely nothing. And when the resulting inflation from all the free handouts to the rest of the world causes a devastating fall into poverty for the rest of us, they'll be fat and happy eating ice cream from their $24K freezers. And Republicans, who have voted for this crap can kiss my ass. All of them. They are scum of the earth. And Ron Johnson who didn't think the people needed the measly $600 because only 9 million are out of work. Explain to me from your Ivory Tower how you pay the 4 months back rent/mortgage payment when you are counted as working at a job making half what you made before with no benefits because your small business went under. This is so very, very wrong.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at December 22, 2020 08:22 AM (cRbt7)

173 Now listening to the Piano Concerto in A flat of Johann Nepomuk Hummel. Something to calm me down.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

My choice for for calming is always Richter playing Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier.

Work's a treat. Beauty and reason.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:22 AM (L3Rsz)

174 161


Now listening to the Piano Concerto in A flat of Johann Nepomuk Hummel. Something to calm me down.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 08:18 AM (mht8P)

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I awake at 3:00 am every morning in a panic for almost a year now. For the first time in my nearly 60-year life, I'm having a cocktail to try to calm down -- and I have to go to work later today.

Posted by: ShainS at December 22, 2020 08:23 AM (WqPYg)

175 Yeah, there are a lot of the 300 million who aren't 'qualified' to get the $600.

Who isn't qualified?

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 22, 2020 08:24 AM (nxdel)

176 There was apparently never any plan to identity, disable or defeat the cultural Marxist dominion.
...

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 08:19 AM (H8QX

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Sure there is! Just wait #twoweeks

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 22, 2020 08:24 AM (EZebt)

177 So did the troll from last night finally get squashed?

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 08:25 AM (NpAcC)

178 23 If the GOP pacing [on early voting] holds up combined with their typical
turnout in runoff elections, they should be able to offset the
Democrats and win,' Georgia conservative commentator Erick Erickson
wrote.
That sounds strangely familiar. Of course Erickson saw no fraud in the November election.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 22, 2020 07:32 AM (J70i0)
__________

It's not his fault. It's hard to see much when your head is stuck that far up your rectum. He'd have to put a peephole in his navel.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:25 AM (7X3UV)

179 "Georgia conservative commentator Erick Erickson"

Yeah I have to spit on the ground every time I read that phrase.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:25 AM (V2Yro)

180 Stellastwocents Johnson is right!

Posted by: f'd Johnson at December 22, 2020 08:26 AM (urf1n)

181 Mornin', all,

Heading out to the Gluf [sic] Coast today. Linda wants to walk on the beach, and there is a nice-looking lunch and dinner place in Long Beach. It seems pretty reasonably priced (other joints want $16 for a dozen oysters? Really?), and the inside looks very welcoming.

I hope they won't give me a hard time about my doctor's letter, because I'm not wearing a mask to walk 10 feet to my table. That makes as much sense as requiring that I stick my right forefinger in my ear as I walk to the table. And it might be a little too cool and breezy to sit comfortably on the porch. We'll see.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 22, 2020 08:26 AM (rpbg1)

182 After Jan20th. the question will be, what is to be done? What is the best way to stand up to or undermine the tyranny and insanity that has descended on the country? Evey MSM news story I see or hear is a pack of lies, deceptions and propaganda and more than half the country gladly goes along with it. Practically every major institution is infected with leftist PC BS which they spew dutifully. Nothing seems real, almost feels like a bad dream. It has me doubting my sanity at times, which is probably what they want.

Posted by: Dr. Ripley at December 22, 2020 08:26 AM (MxEKc)

183 If Trump continues to seek support and/or salvation from other entities or bodies of government which are obviously corrupted and despise him...

.. if does not ultimately invoke the Insurrection Act or exercise some comparable form of executive branch power to confront the corruption and criminality engorging itself on our nation...

... if he finally concedes and doesn't at least offer up an outgoing blistering jeremiad against the deep state, the GOPe and the media and a vow to keep fighting them...

..then he'll have declared it was all a waste of time.

MAGA, an ephemeral economic phenomenon, will vanish like a morning mist.

There was apparently never any plan to identity, disable or defeat the cultural Marxist dominion.

Indeed, if anything, he'll have empowered it and advanced its interests in destroying our country.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 08:19 AM (H8QX

I believe that the one great flaw of PDJT is his love of america. he knows that he HAS to work in the govt, and the laws and courts, in order to keep this country together. I think he loves america, and is willing to do anything he can to heal and restore her. the problem is, it can't be done by following the system.

the system is corrupted beyond our belief and ability to grasp. he truly thought it could be reformed, we all did. we were wrong.

I think he knows that if he went outside the law, provided he survived it, it would have destroyed the country.

turns out, we were already gone...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:27 AM (+NdM9)

184 and for that i'm sad. I have the distinct feeling my boy will turn out ok at the end, but it's going to be rougher for him than i ever thought possible.
Posted by: SturmToddler

It is sad, and it will be rough. But it's necessary.

My sons will do well.

My daughters will struggle. But they have some steel underneath their emotionalism, which will be brought forth through hard times.

In the end, it will be a blessing to them.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:27 AM (L3Rsz)

185 My take on the GA election; the GOPe will win, why? Well, it will be the Dems giving the GOPe a bone for shutting up about the steal. Look, even if the GOPe keeps the Senate, do you really believe that Biden won't get everything he wants through both houses? No, it's a big game and we're on the outside watching it all play out doing nothing and unable to do anything about it.

Posted by: Hunter at December 22, 2020 08:28 AM (bbYBJ)

186 Dang...here I am when I should be working. Best get at it.
Have a fine day, all! Perspective and all that rot.

Posted by: lizabth at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (L3Rsz)

187 The five keys to government service:
- Graft
- Pork barrels
- Corruption
- Incompetence
- Malice

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (hYcqw)

188 I awake at 3:00 am every morning in a panic for almost a year now. For the first time in my nearly 60-year life, I'm having a cocktail to try to calm down -- and I have to go to work later today.
Posted by: ShainS at December 22, 2020 08:23 AM (WqPYg)

The only hospitalizations at my Moms assisted living center have been for panic attacks and failure to stay on prescribed medicine and routines. ZERO WhuFlu!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (5QBw6)

189 We saw the two planets very close together. It was lower in the sky than I thought it would be and not as bright. Although, I do live in the city.
Posted by: Quirky bookworm at December 22, 2020


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We went out, but couldn't see anything but the moon -- and that was hazed.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (rpbg1)

190 Off disgusting porn/crack addicted sock.

Posted by: stourma at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (bbYBJ)

191 My piece of shit boss just slagged me to a client in an email no less. Copied me right on it. That's an in your face fuck you. Fucking piece of shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (93Mlk)

192 If Trump continues to seek support and/or salvation from other entities or bodies of government which are obviously corrupted and despise him...

I remember way back in 2017, back before Paul Ryan took the mask completely off, when that chinless shitstain, Eric Holder, wrote some borderline illiterate open letter to the Swamp critters urging them to stand strong against DJT and thinking "I wonder how many people will listen to this traitor?" Asked and answered.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (y7DUB)

193 Good Morning,

We saw the Christmas star last night, and it was reflecting off of our lake. Absolutely Breathtaking. It brought me hope.
Posted by: spypeach at December 22, 2020 08:21 AM (Up/Jb)

morning spypeach, that sounds absolutely beautiful.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:30 AM (+NdM9)

194 Don't forget what the fat-laden 'Rona bailout is: a stay of execution for the state for what they've done. Had they not done this or the prior bailouts, do you really think we'd still be locked down? I don't. They'd have backtracked on that long ago for fear of open revolt.

These are the bread and circuses. Bread and circuses are the mandatory flip side to civilization-scale bondage. The worse the bondage, the larger - but lower quality - the bread and circuses.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:31 AM (hYcqw)

195 My piece of shit boss just slagged me to a client in an email no less. Copied me right on it. That's an in your face fuck you. Fucking piece of shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (93Mlk)

wow, that's some dirty shit there. i suppose it's good that at least he copied you on it, so now you know for sure he's a worthless pile of shit.

but that's pretty low

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:32 AM (+NdM9)

196 It's time to wipe any Muslim presence or building from The Temple Mount. Give it back to the Jewish people. It is theirs and always has been.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 22, 2020 08:32 AM (BvKrx)

197 what is to be done? What is the best way to stand up to or undermine the tyranny and insanity that has descended on the country?
Posted by: Dr. Ripley at December 22, 2020 08:26 AM (MxEKc)

Seems like the first thing is to find and ally with some people around you who share your concern.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 08:32 AM (H8QX8)

198 Evey MSM news story I see or hear is a pack of lies, deceptions and propaganda and more than half the country gladly goes along with it.

--

I do find solace in knowing that:

1. Despite the "media," Biden did not win this election. His win is as phony as their news reporting and people know it.

2. A huge majority of Trump's voters know it. We know what they did and we know it was stolen.

So, yes. Nearly half the country believes what they're told to believe. But we outnumber them. If you look at the county-by-county maps of the election results in 2020, it is an enormous sea of red. We aren't going to go back to sleep. As a matter of fact, once your eyes open, they remain open. And they've opened a lot of eyes. The anger is real and it's palpable.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:32 AM (O+I8R)

199 My piece of shit boss just slagged me to a client in an email no less. Copied me right on it. That's an in your face fuck you. Fucking piece of shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (93Mlk)
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Damn, dude. Sorry to hear that. Mention it to him during next your review or interview. Total bullshit. He may not know that he did it, in which case he needs correction. If he does know what he did, he needs to be put on notice that you realize his game (if nothing else).

Also, did you grow up in the UK, have British family members, or consume a lot of British entertainment products or books? "Slagged off" is an unusual expression in the New World.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:33 AM (hYcqw)

200 After Jan20th. the question will be, what is to be done?

What is the best way to stand up to or undermine the tyranny and insanity that has descended on the country?
Posted by: Dr. Ripley



#1. Keep your head down.
#2. Protect you and yours.
#3. Sit back and watch the glorious burn.
#4. Piss on the ashes.

Because if you think you can stop this country from burning to the ground, Bwahahahahahahaha!

No, really, Bwahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 08:33 AM (BJLVZ)

201 79
Blackburn
Cruz
Johnson
Lee
Paul
Scott

Senators who voted against relief package.
Posted by: squeakywheel at December 22, 2020 07:51 AM (l1C8z)
________

Hawley and Cotton sold out? That's bad.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:33 AM (7X3UV)

202 Tim Scott voted no??

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:34 AM (O+I8R)

203 Don't forget what the fat-laden 'Rona bailout is: a stay of execution for the state for what they've done. Had they not done this or the prior bailouts, do you really think we'd still be locked down? I don't. They'd have backtracked on that long ago for fear of open revolt.

These are the bread and circuses. Bread and circuses are the mandatory flip side to civilization-scale bondage. The worse the bondage, the larger - but lower quality - the bread and circuses.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:31 AM (hYcqw)

Joe, it's going to be interestign to see how this plays out. they're running out of time on the lockdowns. you're seeing more and more businesses protesting or refusing out right. it can't go on much longer. but will they wake up in time to rescind the lockdowns is the question.

i bet it's no.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:35 AM (+NdM9)

204 Oddly (or maybe just because it is the most recent), I find this stimulus bill to be more dispiriting than the election. It is the perfect encapsulation of everything that is wrong with our elected "elites." And it is the perfect capstone to a stolen election where the elites rise again. The fact that AOC and Trump voters hate it - for different reasons - is telling. Trump should veto. Either as his final official act or as the beginning to what would be as defining a political move as Burr shooting Hamilton.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:35 AM (sX1BW)

205 Wonder Woman 1984 -- Woke, Wobbly and the Year's Most Shocking Dud"

I hope DC dies. I hope Marvel dies. I'm sick of all of that stupid shit, I'm sick of "superheroes", I'm sick of the movie industry. Die, and put us out of your misery.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:35 AM (V2Yro)

206 After Jan20th. the question will be, what is to be done? What is the best way to stand up to or undermine the tyranny and insanity that has descended on the country? ...
Posted by: Dr. Ripley at December 22, 2020 08:26 AM (MxEKc)
+++++++++++++
Neil Diamond, in a wildly different context, has advice that can be applied:
In the wintertime keep your feet warm
Keep your clothes on and don't forget me
Keep the memories
But keep your powder dry too

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:35 AM (hYcqw)

207 Abandon all hope and masturbate as little as possible

Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 08:36 AM (Izzlo)

208 @200

Thread winner.

I think we've put the button on it.


Gun Thread now??

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 08:36 AM (5xQgm)

209 My piece of shit boss just slagged me to a client in an email no less. Copied me right on it. That's an in your face fuck you. Fucking piece of shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (93Mlk)


Holy shit. Even my worst boss never pulled any lowlife shit like that on me. I honestly don't know what I'd do in such a case other than make plans to go elsewhere. Damn, it doesn't seem that long ago when things were a lot better for you.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 08:36 AM (y7DUB)

210 Also, did you grow up in the UK, have British family members, or consume a lot of British entertainment products or books? "Slagged off" is an unusual expression in the New World.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:33 AM (hYcqw)

No, I just found it a particularly cromulent word for this situation.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:37 AM (nakwk)

211 These are the bread and circuses. Bread and circuses are the mandatory flip side to civilization-scale bondage. The worse the bondage, the larger - but lower quality - the bread and circuses.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:31 AM (hYcqw)

There's not even bread, all the restaurants are shut down. We just get circuses, and pretty lousy ones at that

Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 08:38 AM (Izzlo)

212 Wonder Woman 1984 -- Woke, Wobbly and the Year's Most Shocking Dud"

I hope DC dies. I hope Marvel dies. I'm sick of all of that stupid shit, I'm sick of "superheroes", I'm sick of the movie industry. Die, and put us out of your misery.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:35 AM (V2Yro)

well that's fucking wonderful...

the other half's daughters are going to make me and the boy watch it over christmas. they say he needs expose to "strong women"...

i was like: Leia, Padme, Ashoka, Ripley, Sarah Conner, etc. aren't strong women? of course other half shut that down. because we need peace in the house...

fml

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:39 AM (+NdM9)

213 There's not even bread, all the restaurants are shut down. We just get circuses, and pretty lousy ones at that
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Make sure you wear your masks, and the circus will be at 10% capacity.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:39 AM (sX1BW)

214 Joe, it's going to be interestign to see how this plays out. they're running out of time on the lockdowns. you're seeing more and more businesses protesting or refusing out right. it can't go on much longer. but will they wake up in time to rescind the lockdowns is the question.

i bet it's no.
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:35 AM (+NdM9)
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Not due to the non-compliance. They can send their stormtroopers for enforcement in important cases, otherwise they can siphon off some graft from the black market they're creating. Win/win.

The only thing that might force their hands is the tax receipt problem. The first time 'round on the lockdowns, a lot of businesses survived. The owners held on by their fingernails and bled capital to get over the hump. The communities around this country stepped up commerce with local business out of solidarity. They pulled through.

This time that isn't happening so much. It's bullshit and tyrannical and too many people know it now. Businesses are really failing this time around in much larger numbers. The tolerance and willingness of the community to rally and support the businesses has waned. The businesses are not (generally) to blame, but people are out of patience. The exceptional support is gone.

And so now we have failure. That failure will knock on to tax receipts. That is going to be a problem for the governments. If they get a federal bailout of state and local government (and I suspect that they *will* do this under our commie masters in February or March), then nothing stops this until the governors decide to. They will be absolved of responsibility for state and local revenues.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:40 AM (hYcqw)

215 I remember at the 9/12/09 March on Washington,
great people were everywhere. The T.E.A.Party and lovers of America had a great time. The people formally from Eastern Europe and Russia had their own float. They were focused.

We were ignored. But a few knew.

They said the next time we have to do this we will be armed. It is time.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 22, 2020 08:40 AM (u82oZ)

216 What a goddamn mess this whole thing is. Most powerful nation in the world? We're a goddamn joke, that's what we are.

Posted by: A hand puppet wearing a mask at December 22, 2020 08:40 AM (7Sjx5)

217 Abandon all hope and masturbate as little as possible
Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 08:36 AM (Izzlo)

that's going to be pretty rough on Pete...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:40 AM (+NdM9)

218 No, I just found it a particularly cromulent word for this situation.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:37 AM (nakwk)
++++++++++++
It's a good expression.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:41 AM (hYcqw)

219 210 Also, did you grow up in the UK, have British family members, or consume a lot of British entertainment products or books? "Slagged off" is an unusual expression in the New World.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:33 AM (hYcqw)

No, I just found it a particularly cromulent word for this situation.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:37 AM (nakwk)

Crom!!!

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 08:41 AM (Zm+LZ)

220 204 Oddly (or maybe just because it is the most recent), I find this stimulus bill to be more dispiriting than the election. It is the perfect encapsulation of everything that is wrong with our elected "elites." And it is the perfect capstone to a stolen election where the elites rise again. The fact that AOC and Trump voters hate it - for different reasons - is telling. Trump should veto. Either as his final official act or as the beginning to what would be as defining a political move as Burr shooting Hamilton."

They'll override his veto, easily. I'm not surprised, or shocked, and don't feel much at all, because I always expected this. This is why the GOP-e betrayed Trump, this is why they were all so eager to see him gone. It's all a giant grift machine, for BOTH parties, and Trump was gumming up the works, and actually doing what WE wanted done. I will guarantee you that that bill has millions in it for every corrupt toady in DC. All the "aid" that is pumped out is just payoffs to all of their sycophants, and I can guarantee you that a huge amount of that "stimulus" is going to get kicked back right into every Congressman and Senator's pockets.

If anyone still had any doubts at this point, this is Exhibit "A", right out there in spotlights with a brass band playing, that Corruption and Theft is all that *anyone* in Washington (who isn't named Trump) is interested in.

So is it any surprise they'd steal an election? The opportunity to steal is the only reason any of them are there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:41 AM (V2Yro)

221 @212

Any film with Kristin Wiig is, ipso facto going to be a train wreck.


For some reason Hollywood keeps trying to foist her on an unreceptive movie going audience to no avail.


They do do persist.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 08:42 AM (5xQgm)

222 ... If anyone still had any doubts at this point, this is Exhibit "A", right out there in spotlights with a brass band playing, that Corruption and Theft is all that *anyone* in Washington (who isn't named Trump) is interested in. ...
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:41 AM (V2Yro)
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That particular angle is true, but Trump won't veto this and wouldn't even if he hadn't had the election stolen from him. This is Trump's downside, and always has been: he's not a fiscal conservative. He's profligate with spending and that's nothing new.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:43 AM (hYcqw)

223 I was initially against conservatives voting in the GA runnoff.

But, I came around and said, if Trump is for them, then they should get the conservative vote

Now, with that quote from double E double wide? There is no way in hell if I was in GA I'd vote for them.
They might as well have Schumer and Pelosi campaign for them

The Democrats are putting us in shackles.
The Republicans say, vote for us and we'll make sure they're lined with velvet.

That's what voting is now.
It will not reduce the size, scope or reach of the federal government.

A Republican Senate will not stop, slow or hinder the Democrats in any way.
All it will do is keep the comfortable comforted.
And in 2 years, they'll come back and say, "we're very sorry the iron chaffs and scars, but we need the House if you want some burlap on your irons"

The only question left is if you will die to be free.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 22, 2020 08:43 AM (aO8Gd)

224 Also, did you grow up in the UK, have British family members, or consume a lot of British entertainment products or books? "Slagged off" is an unusual expression in the New World.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020


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As a longtime Anglophile, I have to say this expression is new to me. My father (born in 1909) used to use the expression "sligged off" to mean avoiding responsibility, giving excuses why a job wasn't done, etc. Of course that might have just been a Gnaw-luns expression of the time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 22, 2020 08:44 AM (rpbg1)

225 This is a seriously toxic person. Jeebus.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:44 AM (nakwk)

226 They'll override his veto, easily.

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All the more reason to veto. And I'm not surprised, just dispirited. Not sure why the latter if not the former. Regardless, make them own it without Trump's signature. A small victory is a losing battle, but a victory nonetheless.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:45 AM (sX1BW)

227 218 No, I just found it a particularly cromulent word for this situation.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:37 AM (nakwk)
++++++++++++
It's a good expression.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:41 AM (hYcqw)

There was a time when I watched BBC products far more than American made crap. Now they're even worse in the woke idiocy department. Just noting the latest over there, they seem to seriously believe that they can have an economy where half of the country is nurses and practitioners and work for the NHS, and the other half are all patients, and that's all you need for an economy. No one even seems to have the faintest idea that there's something wrong with that plan.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:45 AM (V2Yro)

228 Any film with Kristin Wiig is, ipso facto going to be a train wreck.

For some reason Hollywood keeps trying to foist her on an unreceptive movie going audience to no avail.

They do do persist.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 08:42 AM (5xQgm)

you said do do...

and that's probably a good approximation for the movie...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:45 AM (8D42x)

229 morning spypeach, that sounds absolutely beautiful.
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:30 AM (+NdM9)

It was, it brought us to tears, it was as if Jesus was saying I'm here don't worry.

Posted by: spypeach at December 22, 2020 08:45 AM (Up/Jb)

230 227 218 No, I just found it a particularly cromulent word for this situation.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:37 AM (nakwk)
++++++++++++
It's a good expression.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:41 AM (hYcqw)

There was a time when I watched BBC products far more than American made crap. Now they're even worse in the woke idiocy department. Just noting the latest over there, they seem to seriously believe that they can have an economy where half of the country is nurses and practitioners and work for the NHS, and the other half are all patients, and that's all you need for an economy. No one even seems to have the faintest idea that there's something wrong with that plan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:45 AM (V2Yro)

People easily confuse money with wealth(goods).

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 08:46 AM (Zm+LZ)

231 224 Also, did you grow up in the UK, have British family members, or consume a lot of British entertainment products or books? "Slagged off" is an unusual expression in the New World.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020

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As a longtime Anglophile, I have to say this expression is new to me. My father (born in 1909) used to use the expression "sligged off" to mean avoiding responsibility, giving excuses why a job wasn't done, etc. Of course that might have just been a Gnaw-luns expression of the time.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 22, 2020 08:44 AM (rpbg1)

I only ever heard it used in an episode of The Simpsons when Bart was fantasizing about being in a rock band, and told Milhous (in an English accent) to "slag off!" while throwing a whisky bottle at him

Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 08:46 AM (Izzlo)

232 g'mornin' Horde.

24 hours closer to the death of America as we knew it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 22, 2020 08:46 AM (pmEbq)

233 Good morning, May God have mercy on our souls and save us from the tyrants.
On to content.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 08:46 AM (CZm2G)

234 They said the next time we have to do this we will be armed. It is time.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 22, 2020 08:40 AM (u82oZ)

Indeed it is. I suppose many are awaiting some precipitating event. Like the cannon shots that set off limited snow slides to avert an avalanche, a great leader could show us the way without a full-on blood-letting revolution. But I'm afraid that is not in our picture.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 08:47 AM (H8QX8)

235 No protection for businesses from COVID related lawsuits under this bill. Small businesses will suffer due to the cost of being sued, big businesses won't.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 08:47 AM (NpAcC)

236 morning spypeach, that sounds absolutely beautiful.
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:30 AM (+NdM9)

It was, it brought us to tears, it was as if Jesus was saying I'm here don't worry.
Posted by: spypeach at December 22, 2020 08:45 AM (Up/Jb)

that's comforting. glad you guys got to enjoy it.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:47 AM (8D42x)

237 This is Trump's downside, and always has been: he's not a fiscal conservative.

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I guess I don't see this as a fiscal conservative issue. Heck, if the bill was twice the size, but involved larger direct payments to citizens, I'd be ok with it. Its not the size of the package, but how the funds are directed. For that Trump should veto, and tell the American people that $600 to them is a disgrace. I suspect his voters would rally behind him even though it may do no good.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (sX1BW)

238 There was a time when I watched BBC products far more than American made crap. Now they're even worse in the woke idiocy department. Just noting the latest over there, they seem to seriously believe that they can have an economy where half of the country is nurses and practitioners and work for the NHS, and the other half are all patients, and that's all you need for an economy. No one even seems to have the faintest idea that there's something wrong with that plan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:45 AM (V2Yro)
+++++++++++++
That itself isn't too bad, other than the politically-useful fellatio of the NHS at all turns. The real problem with the BBC is precisely the same as the real problem with our media (and you could make a similar argument that with our pre-produced, scripted entertainment media it's a 50/50 split between cops and robbers), namely that it's reflexively hateful to and contemptuous of the native culture.

In both countries (and the West quite generally), the entertainment industry actively hates the culture and creates products to degrade and belittle and devalue it. The Beeb has this in spades.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (hYcqw)

239 Any word on what Mayor Muriel Panatella Bowser has in mind to put a damper on the festivities of the 6th? You're only allowed to protest with one foot in the air, one hand on your head, and the other hand rubbing your stomach?

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (I58tH)

240 No protection for businesses from COVID related lawsuits under this bill. Small businesses will suffer due to the cost of being sued, big businesses won't.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 08:47 AM (NpAcC)

as intended...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (8D42x)

241 @222

That's not really true, Trumps very first budget proposal literally had everything in it that " "true" conservatives like Paul Ryan had been screaming for for decades.


Balanced the budget, killed the Corp for public broadcasting, killed NPR, dealt with entitlements, and on and on.


The GOP controlled house and senate told him it was DOA.


or said another way...


The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (5xQgm)

242 Lindsey Graham saying he disagrees with Barr and wants a special counsel to investigate Hunter.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 08:49 AM (NpAcC)

243 216 What a goddamn mess this whole thing is. Most powerful nation in the world? We're a goddamn joke, that's what we are.
Posted by: A hand puppet wearing a mask at December 22, 2020 08:40 AM (7Sjx5)

more specifically, we have become a Kleptocracy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:49 AM (V2Yro)

244 No protection for businesses from COVID related lawsuits under this
bill. Small businesses will suffer due to the cost of being sued, big
businesses won't.

-----------

The GOP gives to big business. The Dems give to trial lawyers. Win-win.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:50 AM (sX1BW)

245 I guess I don't see this as a fiscal conservative issue. Heck, if the bill was twice the size, but involved larger direct payments to citizens, I'd be ok with it. Its not the size of the package, but how the funds are directed. For that Trump should veto, and tell the American people that $600 to them is a disgrace. I suspect his voters would rally behind him even though it may do no good.
Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (sX1BW)
+++++++++++++
Fair enough. I disagree and think there should be no bailouts. End the lockdowns instead and watch the boom unfold. I'd veto it on that basis alone. I understand that I am advocating playing chicken with the governors, with the people caught in the middle. I think it is the best play, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:50 AM (hYcqw)

246 183
I believe that the one great flaw of PDJT is his love of america. he knows that he HAS to work in the govt, and the laws and courts, in order to keep this country together. I think he loves america, and is willing to do anything he can to heal and restore her. the problem is, it can't be done by following the system.

the system is corrupted beyond our belief and ability to grasp. he truly thought it could be reformed, we all did. we were wrong.

I think he knows that if he went outside the law, provided he survived it, it would have destroyed the country.

turns out, we were already gone...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:27 AM (+NdM9)
__________

I think you have a point.

It's an important and usually unasked question just how central our political system is to our culture. IMO, more than in most countries. After all, we came to be through a political crisis, with political ideas at the center.

Somewhere Belloc said that while France did not have any essential political system, in Britain Parliament was too embedded to do away with. And that set me to think of how that applies to us. If anything, more so.

So now what? I know it's getting cliched to talk about Julius Caesar and the fall of the Roman Republic. But it sure seems a reasonable comp.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:50 AM (7X3UV)

247 Random question, where is Admiral Rogers?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 22, 2020 08:50 AM (02b6n)

248 In both countries (and the West quite generally), the entertainment industry actively hates the culture and creates products to degrade and belittle and devalue it. The Beeb has this in spades.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (hYcqw)

i only hope they are around to witness that which they bring. i truly want to see them whoring themselves out on the corner in west hollywood for 5 bucks a blowjob.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:50 AM (8D42x)

249 For some reason Hollywood keeps trying to foist her on an unreceptive movie going audience to no avail.


They do do persist.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 08:42 AM (5xQgm)


Like when some Whoreyweird fuckhead, probably the same idiot who hired Jen Rubin as a studio attorney, was determined to make Tina Fey a star on the big screen. I'd see tv trailers of unfunny turd movies and think "this should go straight to video". They eventually figured it out.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 08:51 AM (y7DUB)

250 In both countries (and the West quite generally), the entertainment industry actively hates the culture and creates products to degrade and belittle and devalue it. The Beeb has this in spades.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (hYcqw)

Say what you will about the CCP, but China's movie industry is designed to promote what's best for China.

Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 08:51 AM (Izzlo)

251 Its not the size of the package, but how the funds are directed. For that Trump should veto, and tell the American people that $600 to them is a disgrace.
Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (sX1BW)

Exactly. Because it is a disgrace. It's an in-your-face disgrace. Burn it in front of the camera.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 08:51 AM (H8QX8)

252 The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (5xQgm)
++++++++++++
As is ever and always true. Trump's first budget proposal wasn't terrible in the context of US federal budgets. But the dude is more than happy to spend. I *do* question his fiscal conservative bona fides. Doesn't mean I wouldn't install him as dictator in a heartbeat at this point, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:51 AM (hYcqw)

253 242 Lindsey Graham saying he disagrees with Barr and wants a special counsel to investigate Hunter.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 08:49 AM (NpAcC)

Funny how Ms. Lindsey always gets tough a few milliseconds after it's too late to do any good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:51 AM (V2Yro)

254 I'm looking for the box that says
'Break in case of emergency'

I think we know what is in the box

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 22, 2020 08:52 AM (Vgwo7)

255 Fair enough. I disagree and think there should be no bailouts. End the
lockdowns instead and watch the boom unfold. I'd veto it on that basis
alone. I understand that I am advocating playing chicken with the
governors, with the people caught in the middle. I think it is the best
play, though.
---------

I much prefer your approach. But Trump has been promising his voters that funds were coming. If we are going to spend the money, then spend it on the citizens. But in the end, it doesn't really matter. The only real solution is to open the country up. Let the states and municipalities suffer the consequence of lockdowns the lack of tax revenue.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:52 AM (sX1BW)

256 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 08:52 AM (Zz0t1)

257 Insom, sorry to hear your boss has turned into such a prick.

I can't help but wonder how much that email will impress the client though.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 22, 2020 08:53 AM (02b6n)

258 Wheeeeee.......

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 08:53 AM (Zz0t1)

259 Lindsey Graham saying he disagrees with Barr and wants a special counsel to investigate Hunter.

--

Investigate Hunter. Don't investigate massive, massive election fraud. Way to go, Lindsay. Way. To. Go.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:53 AM (O+I8R)

260 "more specifically, we have become a Kleptocracy."


And a kakistocracy. A Kleptokakistocracy. The best of bot worlds.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 08:54 AM (H8QX8)

261 The Cat's out of the Bag, good Lord, they are afraid, they are cowards, the brownshirts own our politicians.
Heaven help us.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 08:54 AM (CZm2G)

262 And yet she voted for it.
Posted by: blaster

well she's a Leftist - they fall in line

but she knows her crazy base isn't happy with it

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 08:54 AM (nUhF0)

263 I really want Trump to have a presser in prime time where he officially vetoes that shitty "stimulus" bill and tells American's EXACTLY what's in it.

"They call this the Covid 19 relief package. It sends millions to Pakistan for sexual deviance. How is that helping Americans in a pandemic? It's not. Your government hates you and views you as it's personal piggy bank."

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (Zz0t1)

264 257 Insom, sorry to hear your boss has turned into such a prick.

I can't help but wonder how much that email will impress the client though.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 22, 2020 08:53 AM (02b6n)

It was pretty shitty. It also tangentially shit on one of their people too, or could be taken that way. Regardless, this is a seriously fucked up individual.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (nakwk)

265 254 I'm looking for the box that says
'Break in case of emergency'

I think we know what is in the box
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 22, 2020 08:52 AM (Vgwo7)

Gwyneth Paltrow's head?

Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (Izzlo)

266 Funny how Ms. Lindsey always gets tough a few milliseconds after it's too late to do any good.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:51 AM (V2Yro)

Concur. He's good at it too......

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (aD5Lz)

267 I believe that the one great flaw of PDJT is his love of america. he knows that he HAS to work in the govt, and the laws and courts, in order to keep this country together. I think he loves america, and is willing to do anything he can to heal and restore her. the problem is, it can't be done by following the system. ...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:27 AM (+NdM9)
+++++++++++++++
It's why he never was - and I don't think he will be - the dictator that the Left feared. He isn't going to strap on epaulets and laurels, don some aviators, take power and start purging the enemies in government. He hasn't done so and won't do so because he *isn't* a dictator. He wants to save America, not end it and remake it.

I don't think it can be saved. I don't think Trump will ever come to that conclusion. He's a patriot and he's honest. He won't cross the Rubicon. And because he won't, the Left will win (or, indeed, has already won). This will mean more misery and blood down the road and not less, but it is how I think it is going to develop.

The system is profoundly broken and needs to be razed and remade. Trump is not the man for that job. He loves it too much. The right man for the job is exceedingly rare. You're far more likely to get a Hitler than you are a Washington or a Cincinnatus or even a less remarkable version like Pinochet.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (hYcqw)

268 "208 @200

Thread winner.

I think we've put the button on it.


Gun Thread now??

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 08:36 AM (5xQgm)"



Every thread is a Gun Thread; this is known.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (pmEbq)

269 I believe that the one great flaw of PDJT is his love of america. he knows that he HAS to work in the govt, and the laws and courts, in order to keep this country together. I think he loves america, and is willing to do anything he can to heal and restore her. the problem is, it can't be done by following the system.

the system is corrupted beyond our belief and ability to grasp. he truly thought it could be reformed, we all did. we were wrong.

I think he knows that if he went outside the law, provided he survived it, it would have destroyed the country.

turns out, we were already gone...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:27 AM (+NdM9)
__________

I think you have a point.

It's an important and usually unasked question just how central our political system is to our culture. IMO, more than in most countries. After all, we came to be through a political crisis, with political ideas at the center.

Somewhere Belloc said that while France did not have any essential political system, in Britain Parliament was too embedded to do away with. And that set me to think of how that applies to us. If anything, more so.

So now what? I know it's getting cliched to talk about Julius Caesar and the fall of the Roman Republic. But it sure seems a reasonable comp.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:50 AM (7X3UV)

holy shit, i said somethign worthwhile... not a knock on you, usually i either just amuse myself or it's the ramblings of a deluded fool. and that started as a rambling rant. looks like it went somewhere.

and you're right, it is cliche to talk about ceasar, but t does seem close-ish. i wonder though, will we be more roman fall, russian collapse, or balkan genocide?

i haven't figured out yet where in history we are parallel...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:56 AM (8D42x)

270 Insom, I seriously hope you've been looking for something else. Because that trigger will need to be pulled sooner rather than later.

Posted by: DOCTOR-Elect Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 22, 2020 08:56 AM (OUMaO)

271 Erikson on his radio show: You are wrecking the country. I don't care if you light up my
phone or my email. You need to pay attention to me. You don't know
what you are talking about. There is nothing wrong with Dominion. Did

you know? Did you know? Did you know? No, you didn't know. And you

are sowing discord in the country. Not the democrats, you. I've got

people wanting to yell at me right now. It's time for you people to

move on. There is no voter fraud, period. You need to get behind Kelly

Loeffler and David Perdue right now or just go curl up in the fetal

position and suck your thumbs, I don't care. But if Kelly Loeffler and

David Perdue lose, it's your fault. You let the republicans down.
He's worthless.



Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 22, 2020 07:36 AM (J70i0)


I think we now know who BiNO is.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 08:56 AM (B12g/)

272

Every thread is a Gun Thread; this is known.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (pmEbq)


And boobs.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (Zz0t1)

273 Never trust a man with the same first and last name. If he really said that, then he is beyond useless.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (sX1BW)

274 Greece is #1 in shipping (needs to trade build GDP since it is small and rocky). China is #2, then Japan. But China keeps buying ... Greece had money problems, China bought up a big port which is now #4 port in the world, after their money infusion.


Bannon and Joshua Philipp discuss the CCP Wall Street alliance ... Bannon says CCP not really communist, they want to run the world as does Wall Street. Neither care about the people. Steve still thinks Trump will win. I see it as possible, and now is the best time to stop DeepState globalists ...


imo Bannon has a better global perspective of the power struggles than most of the "freedom fighters". It may be that is why he got pushed out of the Trump administration early, along with others that made Trump win in the first place. Lewandowski, Flynn, Gorka ... all out early ... DeepStaters left in command. Coulter's book used as a springboard against illegals, she tried to confront ... Trump kicked her to the curb as well.


Trump is more Main Street, and has business sense. But Bannon has warfare training, and the Goldman Sachs perspective, and then years of the political perspective. Trump maybe needs to get the old band back together, get back on the original Mission from God?


https://tinyurl.com/y7jn2rgq

Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (Cus5s)

275 Lindsey Graham saying he disagrees with Barr and wants a special counsel to investigate Hunter.





And they'll get some DoJ or FBI hack to do the Kabuki theater on it and say like Billy Bagpipes nothing to see here.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (B12g/)

276 270 Insom, I seriously hope you've been looking for something else. Because that trigger will need to be pulled sooner rather than later.
Posted by: DOCTOR-Elect Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 22, 2020 08:56 AM (OUMaO)

It's looking that way. I've worked with assholes before but they would NEVER have done this. EVER. You don't throw someone on your team under the bus like that

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (nakwk)

277 will we be more roman fall, russian collapse, or balkan genocide?

i haven't figured out yet where in history we are parallel...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:56 AM (8D42x)

Maybe a bit of each. There are never exact parallels.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (H8QX8)

278 The only real solution is to open the country up. Let the states and municipalities suffer the consequence of lockdowns the lack of tax revenue.
Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:52 AM (sX1BW)


Anything that helps Mike DeWine get re-elected is bad for Ohio. I think he's toast anyway considering some GOP members are trying to impeach him and his "new friends" won't vote for him in two years. Oh well...

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (y7DUB)

279 When this started happening in Germany those could read the writing on the wall and were capable left Germany for a better place.

God works in mysterious ways. We have no place to go. We're going have to work it out.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (CZm2G)

280 Bannon says CCP not really communist, they want to run the world as does Wall Street.
--------

Something about Conquest's First Law.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:59 AM (sX1BW)

281 242
Lindsey Graham saying he disagrees with Barr and wants a special counsel to investigate Hunter.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 08:49 AM (NpAcC)

LOL!!! Let me guess, he'll hold a hearing in 2026?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 08:59 AM (CQ3Qb)

282 It is almost amusing to see all the fighting about which racial, age, victim or hero group will get the vaccine first for a virus not much more dangerous than the flu. Not to mention vital public servants responsible for keeping this dumpster fire burning. The concern about increasing their chance of survival from 99.3% to 99.8% and will be available, no mandatory, for all within 6 months anyway is surreal.


It reminds me just how deep the insanity runs and as somebody pointed out, might be best to keep your head down and watch it burn.

Posted by: Dr. Ripley at December 22, 2020 08:59 AM (MxEKc)

283 "But if Kelly Loeffler and
David Perdue lose, it's your fault. You let the republicans down."


Loeffler FINALLY sent me a response to my multiple contacts to her yesterday.
In the form letter, she carefully, legally oozed around mentioning the November election beyond" there was "some evidence of voter fraud" and specifically pointed out all of her "programs" and her "support" of Trump. Didn't really explain what that "support" consisted of but she was for sure gonna "fight fight fight!" for "Republican values" and bullshit bullshit bullshit....
Please, Kelly. It would have been better if you hadn't responded at all.

Perdue was just the same form letter response over and over.

But yeah. If they lose, it's OUR fault. Just like it was our fault in November.


Fuck all these people, especially little red ridinghood Erickkkkson who is trying to convince me that the Chicom wolf in the bonnet and nightgown REALLY REALLY THIS TIME FOR SURE is actually Grandma.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 22, 2020 08:59 AM (Ex7Xs)

284 i haven't figured out yet where in history we are parallel...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:56 AM (8D42x)

We're at the part where the elite seize power. What the prior regime(Monarchy or Republic) constituted doesn't seem to have much impact on the events that follow. Usually the ensuing oligarchy will in turn be replaced by a monarchial figure. Oligarchies are inherently unstable since there's no formal balance of powers that maintains itself, eventually someone aggregates enough power to assert dominance.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 09:00 AM (Zm+LZ)

285
It's looking that way. I've worked with assholes before but they would NEVER have done this. EVER. You don't throw someone on your team under the bus like that
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (nakwk)


Do you know where he lives?

Not that I'm advocating anything......

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (Zz0t1)

286 "Well, I tell you what," Hawley continued. "74 million Americans are not
going to shut up. And telling them that their views don't matter and
that their concerns don't matter and they should just be quiet is not a
recipe for success in this country. It's not a recipe for the unity that
I hear now the other side is suddenly so interested in, after years --
YEARS -- of trying to delegitimize President Donald Trump."




That's what the GOPe wants. To shut up and let's pretend they are conservative and fighting for us and they can get back to their grift and hit us up election after election with the same BS phony tough talk.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (B12g/)

287 Insom, your boss sounds like Megan Markle's twin brother
aka total narcissist

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (nUhF0)

288 We're at the part where the elite seize power.

--------

So pretty much every era of history.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (sX1BW)

289 Funny how Ms. Lindsey always gets tough a few milliseconds after it's too late to do any good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 08:51 AM (V2Yro)

6 weeks ago it was preached that Ms. Lindsey just had to win re-election so the R's could keep the Senate. Now few people care about keeping it and we're stuck with him for another SIX years. Folks wonder why they keep feeding us shit sandwiches?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (CQ3Qb)

290 It's looking that way. I've worked with assholes before but they would NEVER have done this. EVER. You don't throw someone on your team under the bus like that
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (nakwk)
++++++++++++
The most important thing about being a boss: have your people's backs. If your guy screwed up, you solve the problem and get through it. If you need to take your guy into a room and (metaphorically) beat him about the face and neck, you do that but you do it privately.

I have had bosses who didn't have my back. I have had bosses who have. I have never had a boss, though, who sabotaged me publicly. The best boss I have ever had was my group's biggest advocate and cheerleader. When we screwed up badly, he'd take us to the woodshed but he never aired dirty laundry in public and he never deflected blame for someone else's screwup onto us.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (hYcqw)

291
So now what? I know it's getting cliched to talk about Julius Caesar and the fall of the Roman Republic. But it sure seems a reasonable comp.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 08:50 AM (7X3UV)

In his epic work "Decline of the West", Oswald Spengler predicted that we would all be headed to an Imperial form of government in the 21st century, and he made that prediction over 100 years ago. He predicted most of the major events of the 20th century, but nobody likes to talk about him. Because he didn't believe in happy endings.

Although he did note that the Imperial stage will probably provide peace and tranquility for a century or two, before everything collapses back into a new dark age.

Once the thieve, liars, scammers, grifters, and cheats in a society far outnumber the honest, hardworking people, there's no place for it to go but down.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (V2Yro)

292 245 I guess I don't see this as a fiscal conservative issue. Heck, if the bill was twice the size, but involved larger direct payments to citizens, I'd be ok with it. Its not the size of the package, but how the funds are directed. For that Trump should veto, and tell the American people that $600 to them is a disgrace. I suspect his voters would rally behind him even though it may do no good.
Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 08:48 AM (sX1BW)
+++++++++++++
Fair enough. I disagree and think there should be no bailouts. End the lockdowns instead and watch the boom unfold. I'd veto it on that basis alone. I understand that I am advocating playing chicken with the governors, with the people caught in the middle. I think it is the best play, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:50 AM (hYcqw)
__________

I actually agree with Tulsi here. Or, more precisely, she agrees with me, as I suggested this months ago on this thread. We should have bailouts, 100% financed by a windfall profits tax on the online corporations which have been making a killing because the government has squashed their smaller competitors.

I'm serious. 99% tax on Amazon, et al.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (7X3UV)

293 I guess I don't see this as a fiscal conservative issue. Heck, if the bill was twice the size, but involved larger direct payments to citizens, I'd be ok with it. Its not the size of the package, but how the funds are directed. For that Trump should veto, and tell the American people that $600 to them is a disgrace. I suspect his voters would rally behind him even though it may do no good.
Posted by: SH



That $600 is a "fuck you, peon" thumb in the eye.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (BJLVZ)

294 We don't even know all the theft that is in the bill yet. Only a few scattered pages.

Posted by: Gilded at December 22, 2020 09:02 AM (Q7A+E)

295 Go tell it on the mountain, fatboy. If I don't support your candidates, I'm "letting the Republicans down," huh?

Oh noes!!

Wouldn't want to let those awesome Republicans down, now! C'est debacle! Quelle horreur!

Psych. I *want* to let the Republicans down. Real fast, but not quite to the ground, if you catch my drift.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2020 09:02 AM (TRWjL)

296 I actually agree with Tulsi here. Or, more precisely, she agrees with
me, as I suggested this months ago on this thread. We should have
bailouts, 100% financed by a windfall profits tax on the online
corporations which have been making a killing because the government has
squashed their smaller competitors.

----------

Sounds reasonable to me.

Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 09:03 AM (sX1BW)

297 Say what you will about the CCP, but China's movie industry is designed to promote what's best for China.

Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 08:51 AM (Izzlo)

EVERY country's entertainment industries are designed to promote/celebrate their own cultures. Hell it's even The Law in Canada. In the US it's designed to make people hate the country.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 09:03 AM (CQ3Qb)

298 The most important thing about being a boss: have your people's backs. If your guy screwed up, you solve the problem and get through it. If you need to take your guy into a room and (metaphorically) beat him about the face and neck, you do that but you do it privately.

I have had bosses who didn't have my back. I have had bosses who have. I have never had a boss, though, who sabotaged me publicly. The best boss I have ever had was my group's biggest advocate and cheerleader. When we screwed up badly, he'd take us to the woodshed but he never aired dirty laundry in public and he never deflected blame for someone else's screwup onto us.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (hYcqw)


However, this is Insom.

I'm leaning towards the tire iron approach here.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:03 AM (Zz0t1)

299 However, this is Insom.

I'm leaning towards the tire iron approach here.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:03 AM (Zz0t1)
++++++++++
There is a certain ... directness to that approach.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (hYcqw)

300 259 Lindsey Graham saying he disagrees with Barr and wants a special counsel to investigate Hunter.

--

Investigate Hunter. Don't investigate massive, massive election fraud. Way to go, Lindsay. Way. To. Go.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2020 08:53 AM (O+I8R)
_________

Both. And.

The more the merrier. To paraphrase Che, "Two, three, many Russiagates."

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (7X3UV)

301 That's what the GOPe wants. To shut up and let's pretend they are conservative and fighting for us and they can get back to their grift and hit us up election after election with the same BS phony tough talk.
Posted by: TheQuietMan


They figured poorly.
I'm done voting for republican incumbents.
Period. Fin.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (BJLVZ)

302 I think we now know who BiNO is.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 08:56 AM (B12g/)

Any updates on that secret German server that controlled our elections?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (CQ3Qb)

303 Errorickson thinks that because he guest hosted Rush's show years ago he has credibility. The fact is EE's show is 1000% better when someone else is guest hosting it.

Posted by: Frosty'd at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (+y8uL)

304 Although he did note that the Imperial stage will probably provide peace and tranquility for a century or two, before everything collapses back into a new dark age.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (V2Yro)

I think he overestimates their competence. The Roman peace was also dependent on them effectively being a superpower for the era, whereas the coming era appears to be more great power politics.

The difference between the Tsars and the Soviets was not so much one of absolutism, but one of competence.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (Zm+LZ)

305 "+++++++++++++++
It's why he never was - and I don't think he will be - the dictator that the Left feared. He isn't going to strap on epaulets and laurels, don some aviators, take power and start purging the enemies in government. He hasn't done so and won't do so because he *isn't* a dictator. He wants to save America, not end it and remake it.

I don't think it can be saved. I don't think Trump will ever come to that conclusion. He's a patriot and he's honest. He won't cross the Rubicon. And because he won't, the Left will win (or, indeed, has already won). This will mean more misery and blood down the road and not less, but it is how I think it is going to develop.

The system is profoundly broken and needs to be razed and remade. Trump is not the man for that job. He loves it too much.
...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (hYcqw) "




Hate to say it, but I am thinking you're exactly right.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 22, 2020 09:05 AM (pmEbq)

306 Moar Congressional hearings and reports from nutless investigators.......

2020 : the year 'accountability' became an archaic word.

Our rulers think we are stupid and cowardly but Trump has something in mind in DC for January 6th.

Posted by: The people across the aisle want us silenced at best,dead at worst at December 22, 2020 09:05 AM (xXx5y)

307 191 My piece of shit boss just slagged me to a client in an email no less. Copied me right on it. That's an in your face fuck you. Fucking piece of shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:29 AM (93Mlk)

I know jobs are hard to find, especially in the legal biz, and no one wants to give one up before they're forced to. But you really need to begin planning a way out of there. He's chosen you as the designated whipping boy for everything that goes wrong, and there's no way that will ever change or ever go well for you. I worked for a boss like that once in another industry, and luckily he was such an idiot that he got himself fired before he could run me off, but that was pure luck.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 09:05 AM (V2Yro)

308 It's looking that way. I've worked with assholes before but they would NEVER have done this. EVER. You don't throw someone on your team under the bus like that
Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:58 AM (nakwk)
---------------

Sorry this is happening. Hope you can hold on long enough to find a new one.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:06 AM (CZm2G)

309 The system is profoundly broken and needs to be razed and remade. Trump is not the man for that job. He loves it too much. The right man for the job is exceedingly rare. You're far more likely to get a Hitler than you are a Washington or a Cincinnatus or even a less remarkable version like Pinochet.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 08:55 AM (hYcqw)

yeah, that that is my fear. it's going to go badly. and sadly the MOST deserving won't necessarily be the ones receiving retribution...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 09:06 AM (8D42x)

310 well then, who is the Left's Hitler? coz thst's who is seizing power

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:07 AM (nUhF0)

311 That was the deal by the Uniparty and Deep State. Get rid of Trump by cheating and do not complain about it, and you Republicans get to keep the Senate in Georgia. Then make grand coalition deAls with Biden to help
china and open the border to cheap labor

Posted by: Jonah at December 22, 2020 09:08 AM (Z7oqE)

312 "I took care of that for you, I was worried you'd all be upset," the Fauci bragged on CNN. "I took a trip up to the North Pole...and I vaccinated Santa Claus myself, I measured his level of immunity and he is good to go."


***********


♫♪♫

I saw Fauci vaxxing Santa Claus
Underneath the mistletoe last night

Posted by: Muldoon at December 22, 2020 09:08 AM (m45I2)

313 The Imperial Age will not have the United States as the Imperial Head. We will be a vassal state.

Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2020 09:09 AM (bCLt0)

314 The most important thing about being a boss: have your people's backs. If your guy screwed up, you solve the problem and get through it. If you need to take your guy into a room and (metaphorically) beat him about the face and neck, you do that but you do it privately.

As an employee my job was to make my boss look good by doing my job well. My best bosses understood that and would prioritize my assignments and facilitate my ability to get them done and compensate me accordingly.

It's surprising how that concept eludes bad bosses.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 09:09 AM (y7DUB)

315 310 well then, who is the Left's Hitler? coz thst's who is seizing power
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:07 AM (nUhF0)

They seized power as a coalition of elites. They haven't yet gone through the internal conflict to establish a ruler.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 09:09 AM (Zm+LZ)

316
I saw Fauci vaxxing Santa Claus
Underneath the mistletoe last night
Posted by: Muldoon

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:09 AM (nUhF0)

317 If our Judges (Roberts yelling in chambers) and politicians are so afraid of antifa; What is our recourse?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:10 AM (CZm2G)

318 Does the new interim AG Rosen, have the power to appoint a Special Counsel?

Posted by: Jonah at December 22, 2020 09:10 AM (Z7oqE)

319 We don't even know all the theft that is in the bill yet. Only a few scattered pages.
Posted by: Gilded


Funny thing is? Farcebook fact checkers haven't raised their idiot heads.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:10 AM (BJLVZ)

320 well then, who is the Left's Hitler? coz thst's who is seizing power
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:07 AM (nUhF0)
++++++++++++
They may not have one. I think they don't. The Left is fairly decentralized. They have their dictators within the complex (dangerous ones like Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett and non-government power centers like Soros and his pals), but I don't see anyone with actual top-line absolute discretion. That person may emerge, but I think he isn't present at the moment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 09:10 AM (hYcqw)

321 Ok, think I figured it out. The $900Bill Covid Bill had $1.4Trill tacked onto it to keep the govt from shutting down. So that's the $2.3Trill Bill that was passed yesterday and Trump is to sign?

Still don't understand what funding"gender programs" in Pakistan has to do with keeping US from shutting down though.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 22, 2020 09:11 AM (ViCCR)

322 " ...
Yesterday was a Kafkaesque doozy of a day at work and I don't think today's going to be much of an improvement, but we shall see. How are you doing?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 08:18 AM (nakwk) "



I remember having a job ... which was worse, the Kafka days or the Ivan Denisovich ones ... ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 22, 2020 09:11 AM (pmEbq)

323
When we screwed up badly, he'd take us to the woodshed but he never aired dirty laundry in public and he never deflected blame for someone else's screwup onto us.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (hYcqw)

-----------

My criteria for a good boss:
1) Understand what it is your reports do.
2) Give them the tools to do their jobs.
3) Reprove in private, but defend them to your superiors.

And if you're an employee, try to make your boss look good. If you screw up, take responsibility yourself. Your chastisement may be mitigated.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 09:11 AM (mht8P)

324 318. Sucession and ignore Washington. Barrett is worthless

Posted by: Jonah at December 22, 2020 09:11 AM (Z7oqE)

325 I don't see a soft landing ahead.

Posted by: civil truth at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (WNmFu)

326 *SNIFF*

Who shit?

Oh. Kurt's here.....

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)

327 Erikson is the straw boss.
Proud to hold the master's whip.
His bed is soft and warm.
His children are fat and happy.

And you're not going to take that away from him.
You will not be free.
If the Bible needs be a club to keep you shackled, he will swing it.
If your decency and humanity need twisted back upon you, he will sweat until it's done.
All the tools in his master's shed, such built and perfected since the day he corrupted man in Eden, Erick will gladly use.

Because men like Erickson are not men. They live for this life alone while mouthing words of piety.
It is not God's will that we be ruled by corrupt and polluted men. He means for us to live free.
It is an offense to Him that we would not fight to keep His gift of freedom.

Those calling for peace, for conciliation, for clam and unity are not seeking freedom.
They are after one thing: Power.

Power over the weak. The poor. The honest. The free. The children of God.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (aO8Gd)

328 350000 UK vaccinations. Google that for wide UK coverage. US media doesn't want you to know.

Posted by: Alex What's My Price at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (hkHCS)

329 >>>
They figured poorly.
I'm done voting for republican incumbents.
Period. Fin.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (BJLVZ)

======

Both of my R senators voted for it. So, yep. This is where I am at too.

Posted by: Pining for the Fjords at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (o9apC)

330 326 *SNIFF*

Who shit?

Oh. Kurt's here.....
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)


Not anymore. For today.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (s2VJv)

331 Just poking around this monstrosity of a bill, found something interesting on page 2845.


The creation of something called, AI Center of Excellence, within the GSA.


This agency will...


(1) facilitate the adoption of artificial intelligence technologies in the Federal Government;


(2) improve cohesion and competency in the
adoption and use of artificial intelligence within the
Federal Government; and..


(3) carry out paragraphs (1) and (2) for the
purposes of benefitting the public and enhancing the
productivity and efficiency of Federal Government
operations.


It seems like we just authorized SkyNet.


Or said another way....

Terminator was a cautionary tale not a how too manual.


To understand how horrible the bill is, just flip to any random page in this monstrosity.


It's all fucking garbage like the above.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (5xQgm)

332 I saw Fauci vaxxing Santa Claus
Underneath the mistletoe last night
Posted by: Muldoon



Why was Santa bent over? And why did Fauci have both hands on Santa's hips?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (BJLVZ)

333 On my way to the Tallahassee airport, saw lots of Trump signs and flags, one lone biden sign. One thing new was the Trump flag on a small Volunteer Fire Department station's flagpole under the US flag. Believe that represents a chunk of Floridians who think democrats stole the election and ready for anything PDT is willing to undertake.

Posted by: EveR at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (DsGxB)

334 Damn Insomniac your boss is a real asshole. I hope you can find something else. What a horrible environment to have to work in.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (nxdel)

335 test

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (5QBw6)

336 And if you're an employee, try to make your boss look good. If you screw up, take responsibility yourself. Your chastisement may be mitigated.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 09:11 AM (mht8P)

Except I didn't screw up in this case. I was acting based on the information on hand but I got sandbagged. Whether that was intentional or through neglect I'm not completely certain.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (nakwk)

337 And if you're an employee, try to make your boss look good. If you screw up, take responsibility yourself. Your chastisement may be mitigated.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 22, 2020 09:11 AM (mht8P)
++++++++++++
Yup. I have sent more than one E-Mail to my boss that said, "So, I did "X" and it is a foul-up and it's going to be crossing your desk soon. Here is what I did and what I am doing to try to correct it. If you don't want me on this anymore, I recommend John Doe to take this on and I'll swap tasks with him."

That goes a long way if you have a good boss. If you have a bad boss, though, it just means you'll languish for screwing up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (hYcqw)

338 Many will disagree, but Roberts resigning and allowing Depends to nominate a new justice may be better. That way the 5 so called conservatives might become tribal and vote in block

Posted by: Jonah at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (Z7oqE)

339 The Imperial Age will not have the United States as the Imperial Head. We will be a vassal state.

Posted by: tubal


See, this is the subtle part: The United States is already an empire by its informal power dynamics. The coastal hegemons effectively rule over the rest through local satraps. To New York or San Francisco there's no effective difference between Afghanistan and West Virginia, or Nigeria and Nebraska.

Posted by: DOCTOR-Elect Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (OUMaO)

340 I don't know if this atrocity has been reported yet in the thread but...

https://twitter.com/lwoodhouse/status/
1341230300521631744

While rejecting hazard pay for essential workers, refusing to assist desperate local governments and haggling down checks to ordinary Americans to $600, Congress more than doubled the budget for their own private boutique health care clinic.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (UDapT)

341 the spending bill is a load of shit, but let's not pretend like Trump did anything but pay lip service to the debt while running in 2016. I thought at the time that he'd be a Democrat and was pleasantly surprised in all ways except fiscal restraint.

Limbaugh used to whinge that goshdarnit the Republicans aren't trying to CUT anything, they're just trying to slow the growth! Because heaven forfend it actually BE a cut. Now it's not even a slowing of growth. It's just money on top of more money to show how much the government cares.

I can't wait for it to collapse.

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (osPE7)

342 That $600 is a "fuck you, peon" thumb in the eye.



Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:01 AM (BJLVZ)



I heard the "stimulus" will cost taxpayers $3,000 each. So yeah great. We get $600 for a $3,000 bill.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (B12g/)

343 and you're right, it is cliche to talk about ceasar, but t does seem close-ish. i wonder though, will we be more roman fall, russian collapse, or balkan genocide?

i haven't figured out yet where in history we are parallel...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 22, 2020 08:56 AM (8D42x)

It's an interesting question, in that the people setting themselves up to take control are the Tech Oligarchs - Bezos, Zuckerburg, Gates, etc. But none of them have any ability to relate or gain allegiance from the common people. I don't think we've seen the man yet who will be able to do that, but the time is ripe for him to rise.

It's almost funny, the Oligarchs were terrified that Trump was that man, but as others have noted, he was not. He may go down as the last truly American President, the last President who actually cared about this country and believed in its ideals. Wait'll they get a load of the Real Thing, once he shows up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (V2Yro)

344 296 I actually agree with Tulsi here. Or, more precisely, she agrees with
me, as I suggested this months ago on this thread. We should have
bailouts, 100% financed by a windfall profits tax on the online
corporations which have been making a killing because the government has
squashed their smaller competitors.

----------

Sounds reasonable to me.
Posted by: SH at December 22, 2020 09:03 AM (sX1BW)
_________

I've posted that suggestion at other sites, too. And believe it or not, I've been chided by libertarians for being "anti-free market" and "pro-big government" because this suggestion punishes Bezos for his brilliant creative destruction idea.

Ponder that. It is a sign of a great entrepreneur to make money by getting the government to favor you over your competition. And that's the libertarian way.

(I confess that, though I was never one myself, I had a lot more respect for the libertarians of my youth, than for the current crop. Nowadays "libertarians" seem to be all about "Bake the damned cake and pass me the bong." My old friends were a better and smarter lot.)

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (7X3UV)

345 333 On my way to the Tallahassee airport, saw lots of Trump signs and flags, one lone biden sign. One thing new was the Trump flag on a small Volunteer Fire Department station's flagpole under the US flag. Believe that represents a chunk of Floridians who think democrats stole the election and ready for anything PDT is willing to undertake.
Posted by: EveR at December 22, 2020 09:13 AM (DsGxB)

Happiness is TLH in your rear view mirror.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (5QBw6)

346 PDT

For the First Time, NATO Forces Outnumber U.S. Troops in Afghanistan

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 09:15 AM (5QBw6)

347
Democrats are still trying to steal NY-22.

They keep "finding" "undiscovered" votes, but Tenney, the Republican is still leading by a few votes. Nineteen, I think.

The NY Supreme Court is involved in the Stealing of NY-22 and are "carefully examining" a couple of thousand ballots from Utica. This is the Florida 2000 fake recount all over again. These Democrat "judges" are looking at INVALID ballots and deciding they should go to the Democrat candidate.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 22, 2020 09:15 AM (FmStP)

348 Any updates on that secret German server that controlled our elections?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (CQ3Qb)



I've never mentioned that or really care about it. At the same time I'm not a pathetic shill for Dominion.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 09:15 AM (B12g/)

349
If the Democrat in NY-22 was ahead by 19 votes, there'd be no court case!

Why?

No fcking Standing, that's fcking why.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 22, 2020 09:16 AM (FmStP)

350 >>>
They figured poorly.
I'm done voting for republican incumbents.
Period. Fin.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (BJLVZ)
-----------------

When judges and politicians do things out of fear of the mob we no longer have law. We no longer have our country.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:16 AM (CZm2G)

351
I heard the "stimulus" will cost taxpayers $3,000 each. So yeah great. We get $600 for a $3,000 bill.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (B12g/)


Because EVERYTHING they do is money laundering.

EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:16 AM (Zz0t1)

352 Daily Caller
@DailyCaller

Tucker segment on how the Army's "Operation Inclusion" instructed soldiers that the phrase "Make America Great Again"was a covert form of white supremacy-

https://tinyurl.com/yd3lddvq

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 09:16 AM (NpAcC)

353 Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 09:12 AM (5xQgm)

Well here's a couple things about what we call AI.

1. They're not really thinking machines, they're mathematical optimization machines that fit curves using pattern recognition and statistics.
2. They're effectively a black box to most people and likely nearly everyone in the government to interact with them.

An example of AI would be teaching it to recognize wolves, but it really learned to recognize snow because all the pictures happened to have snow in the background. Because it is a black box they found it more difficult to manipulate inputs to get desired outputs and AI in hiring ended up 'racist'. It statistically discrimination, because AI is a statistical discrimination machine. That's all it does.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (Zm+LZ)

354 >>Reporters 'Frustrated' Joe Biden Avoiding Questions On Hunter Biden Investigation<<

The Media wing of the Dem-Media Complex operates like the studio moguls did (still do?). The moguls told aspiring actresses to get onto the casting couch, or they'd never work in Hollywood.

Now, the Dems and other journalists tell a journalist to not ask a Dem politician any serious questions, if he or she ever wants to get inside info, a promotion, or invitations to parties. Or keep his/her current job. There is no down-side for a Dem politician to simply ignore or laugh-away an unwanted question.

I have no idea how to break-down this corrupted system. We have arrived at the point where the possible VPOTUS has not held anything resembling a press conference since she was nominated - four months ago. And I hear no serious complaints about it from the Media.

Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (AMIL/)

355 Thank you as always JJ
I wish I knew what to do about this election steal attempt. And no, I am not interested in writing a sternly worded snail mail to various reps.
One idea I am thinking about, is not using any business that is a Biden supporter. For a couple weeks I have been planning a fairly big investment in a bucket list item-an experience unique to the wild west. There were several vendors that were going to be involved, who also would earn a very handsome days wage. Yesterday I called the main guy, who is helping with the planning, and his wife answered, who I have spoken with before. And I broached my new idea, of not doing business with people who were not politically aligned with me. Come to find out, after 5-10 min of discussion, she was not on my side politically*. And so, after some hours of thought, I have decided to call today and cancel with this guy, and his two support guys.

Posted by: MikeM at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (np8OD)

356 They seized power as a coalition of elites. They haven't yet gone through the internal conflict to establish a ruler.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy

those always fall apart

for whatever reason, Harris has the blessing of Big Tech.
she doesn't impress me but she has been a petty and vindictive tyrant in the past when handed power, but she has zero charisma

is the squad faction gonna mob their way rule? they are not even internally united though later

Pelosi, Biden et al.- the geriatric faction - they have no heirs appatent unless it's Newsome? Cuomo?

perhaps it's a player to be named later
they like blank slates
or maybe TFG will return

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (nUhF0)

357 The afternoon drive radio hosts in my area are Ben Shapiro and Hannity. I do not listen to sports talk anymore due PC crap, so i am now working classical music

Posted by: Jonah at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (Z7oqE)

358
Any updates on that secret German server that controlled our elections?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans



What did I tell you?
If this is why you're here, Go Screw.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (FmStP)

359 I hear more murmurs of " let it burn" now. Horde thinking has closed the circle.

Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (bCLt0)

360 Wonder Woman 84.

This is why I don't bother to watch new movies.

Posted by: dantesed at December 22, 2020 09:18 AM (88xKn)

361 Any updates on that secret German server that controlled our elections?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


So boring.


Why don't you just post your shit multiple times
into a comment and blow up threads with it , troll. That would have the
same affect as your shitty non-responses to direct questions about your
Chinazi employer.


You cut and paste your accusations that anyone who doesn't love Dominion sexually like you do is a Q conspiracy theorist may not make you a Chicom but it does make you a Chicom propagandist.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 22, 2020 09:18 AM (Ex7Xs)

362 If this doesn't scare you, it ought to....


https://tinyurl.com/yascwp76

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 22, 2020 09:18 AM (o2MD2)

363 352. Tucker who?

Posted by: Jonah at December 22, 2020 09:18 AM (Z7oqE)

364 "Investigate Hunter. Don't investigate massive, massive election fraud. Way to go, Lindsay. Way. To. Go."

Kabuki Theater ... they know it was stolen, they helped, they wanted it stolen. Biden lied about Ukraine and China money ... why not have FBI ask him questions, then he can lie to the FBI and go to jail.


But that trick is only for innocent Trump people, and Trump himself. It was entrapment for them, but hard evidence on Biden ... FBI buries it, protects them, they are enemies of the state. They All Know it is a criminal mafia, with globalists in the shadows running the BigBanks and pulling the strings.


The message is leaking out, hence the vicious censorship and economic shut downs. Barr imo outed himself as a true enemy when he said the CIA was righteous ... and was appointing Durham as special counsel just another way to have a fail safe back up plan to Get Trump and bury evidence (like the last special counsel?).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2020 09:18 AM (Cus5s)

365 I'm still of the school that most strongly objects to the "bailout" bill because of its omnibus nature. It is a disgrace (though not a new one) that bills aren't passed in clean stand-alone form. That way you actually have a chance of getting a good, or at least not-so-bad one.

But this shitty process is designed to make that impossible. One of Trump's failures was in not following through on the pledge to stop that. Yes, there were reasons. Still, it's a failure.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (7X3UV)

366
Nowadays "libertarians" seem to be all about "Bake the damned cake and pass me the bong." My old friends were a better and smarter lot.)
Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (7X3UV)


Today's libertarianism is a mix of astrology and crystal healing for men.

Posted by: fktheleft at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (lvXKd)

367 The afternoon drive radio hosts in my area are Ben
Shapiro and Hannity. I do not listen to sports talk anymore due PC crap,
so i am now working classical music

Posted by: Jonah at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (Z7oqE)


Same here. I listen to Bongino's podcast and War Room at that time.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (B12g/)

368 359 I hear more murmurs of " let it burn" now. Horde thinking has closed the circle.
Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (bCLt0)

the ironic thing is that now it's all guaranteed to burn no matter what we do. They've made sure of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (V2Yro)

369 350 >>>
They figured poorly.
I'm done voting for republican incumbents.
Period. Fin.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:04 AM (BJLVZ)
-----------------

When judges and politicians do things out of fear of the mob we no longer have law. We no longer have our country.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:16 AM (CZm2G)

Why even run against a Democrat if you're just going to do everything Antifa wants?

"They get graft and I don't!"

Oh.

Posted by: Allie at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (vmRc0)

370 On a lighter note, the MFM here so probably in the States too is blowing McDonald's in Commie China for its new menu item, Spam 'burger'. No word from Jonah Goldberg yet on whether it's a sandwich or a burger.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (UDapT)

371 I just want OUT. I want out of this corruption and graft, and my tolerance for immorality, and specifically, being told I have to celebrate perversion, is basically gone. I don't want to mouth untruths to keep the peace with people who don't give a shit about MY sensibilities anymore. (Small example: I am going back to saying manned spaceflight. Anyone tries to lecture me on it, they're getting an earful. I compromised with "crewed" for years, but that's not good enough anymore either - we have to say "human spaceflight" and refer to a manned space station as "human-tended". I'm done.)

As it will be in the future, so it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain, since Social Progress began -
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the Burnt Fool's bandaged Finger goes wabbling back to the Fire,
And that, when all this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins,
When all men are paid for existing, and no man must pay for his sins,
Then surely as water will wet us, and surely as fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings in terror and slaughter return!

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 22, 2020 09:20 AM (rWZ8Y)

372 trump's presidency, I guess, will be defined by these massive, unread, pork laden, democrat-poison pill bills that were dumped in his lap at the last moment in extreme haste and panic by his supposed party.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:20 AM (qlfUb)

373 Boy, Congress sure knows how to prioritize during a crisis. And we only had to wait . . . eight months for $600!

Posted by: Unkaren at December 22, 2020 09:20 AM (vGJY7)

374 Nowadays "libertarians" seem to be all about "Bake the damned cake and pass me the bong." My old friends were a better and smarter lot.)
Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (7X3UV)

Today's libertarianism is a mix of astrology and crystal healing for men.
Posted by: fktheleft at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (lvXKd)

You can't spell libertarianism without libertinism

Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 09:21 AM (Izzlo)

375
If our Judges (Roberts yelling in chambers) and politicians are so afraid of antifa; What is our recourse?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:10 AM


make them fear us more

intimidation seems to be the only thing that works reliably

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 22, 2020 09:21 AM (k8Sei)

376 so trump should veto. Just fuck McConnel and Pelosi, with maybe fewer democrat traitors in Congress, she'll be forced to draft bills that aren't leftwing bombshells.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:21 AM (qlfUb)

377 #370 Addendum: It looks like they're only making 400,000 Spam burgers so it's the McRib of Red China then I guess.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2020 09:21 AM (UDapT)

378 BINO is Hzunter's bodyguard who gets bored watching his boss sleep off benders so he trolls

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:21 AM (nUhF0)

379 For every one of those massive expenditures, x percent is going into the pockets of the politicians. That's why the numbers are so huge. I figure 20% at least is siphoned off by politicians, their lackeys, family, and friends.

Posted by: iandeal at December 22, 2020 07:24 AM (vgGyZ)

It's been said the Mob perfected the "skim" in Vegas, hell, they're amateurs.

Posted by: BignJames at December 22, 2020 09:21 AM (AwYPR)

380 368 359 I hear more murmurs of " let it burn" now. Horde thinking has closed the circle.
Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2020 09:17 AM (bCLt0)

the ironic thing is that now it's all guaranteed to burn no matter what we do. They've made sure of that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (V2Yro)

Burn quickly or burn slowly. My position is we should accelerate through the collapse.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 09:22 AM (Zm+LZ)

381 That one bonk bonk kid with the wrench looks a bit inbred....

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 22, 2020 09:22 AM (aD5Lz)

382 So, folks, what's it going to take? They shut us down, destroyed lives, rigged an election, disobeyed their own rules and then gifted themselves billions of dollars while rewarding us with 600 bucks.

They did all of this right in our faces, without a care in the world.

They hid nothing.

They stuck their thumb in our eyes every chance they got.

They are daring us to do something about it.

Posted by: Grip the Weasel at December 22, 2020 09:22 AM (Y/FsB)

383 366
Nowadays "libertarians" seem to be all about "Bake the damned cake and pass me the bong." My old friends were a better and smarter lot.)
Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 09:14 AM (7X3UV)

Today's libertarianism is a mix of astrology and crystal healing for men.
Posted by: fktheleft at December 22, 2020 09:19 AM (lvXKd)


When the main thought leader is Al Leppo...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 22, 2020 09:22 AM (s2VJv)

384 then again, as long as the federal government is comprised of folks who are selected by the polling place overlords who count the votes they want to, we're going to get this stuff.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:23 AM (qlfUb)

385
make them fear us more

intimidation seems to be the only thing that works reliably
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 22, 2020 09:21 AM (k8Sei)


This.

The Freedom Militia needs to start forming......quickly.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:23 AM (Zz0t1)

386 Many will disagree, but Roberts resigning and allowing Depends to nominate a new justice may be better. That way the 5 so called conservatives might become tribal and vote in block
Posted by: Jonah


You mean 5 liberals.
Remember, Alito and Thomas only wanted to take the Texas case to keep up appearances. They were never going to vote for it.


In my view, we do not have discretion to deny the filing of a bill of complaint in a case that falls within our original jurisdiction... I would therefore grant the motion to file the bill of complaint but would not grant other relief, and I express no view on any other issue.

-Samuel Alito for himself and Thomas

Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2020 09:23 AM (BJLVZ)

387 The Freedom Militia needs to start forming......quickly.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:23 AM (Zz0t1)

I believe they call themselves the 3%ers.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (o2MD2)

388 #BlockadeDC.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #BlockadeDC at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (HaL55)

389 Black Lives Matter's Annual "Black Xmas" Protest Against "White Capitalism" Targets Amazon This Year

-
Ooooo. They weren't eaten last.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (+y/Ru)

390
In the upper chamber, senators voted 92-6 in favor of passing the
package. No Democrats broke ranks, but a handful of Republican senators
opposed the bill including Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky.
Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii were the two House Democrats who voted against the package.



Any links to who the other 4 Senators were?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (Ex7Xs)

391 This is a morning where I am actually looking forward to the art thread (no offense, cbd).

Posted by: Pining for the Fjords at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (1aJ+m)

392 What is the point of voting in Ga. when the two asshats that are running as repubs are just going to go along with their dem overlords? You're being conned again Georgia. You can vote repub and feel good that you did something, but the "republicans" you voted for are RINOs and are not going to do a damned thing to save the country.

Posted by: megthered at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (wBOIs)

393 Trump should veto and propose a streamlined plan. No special interests, no pork, just a $2500 check to every taxpayer.

Posted by: dri at December 22, 2020 09:25 AM (gaSe+)

394 We are looking at buying acreage in Florida.

I am not sure any place is "safe" anymore, but Florida seems as good as any.

Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 09:25 AM (ZfRYq)

395 "any updates on that secret German server that controlled our elections?"

packet flows were indeed tracked to Germany, and other countries had access. Vote counting machines should not have been connected at all. People are avoiding a subpoena to be able to examine the machines ...


Courts afaik have not looked at any evidence yet ... but it is out there for the public. There is a lot of evidence, some of it is servers and routers ... courts are trying to delay the process of examining the hard evidence. (and some trolls are mocking that evidence as fake)

Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2020 09:25 AM (Cus5s)

396 355 MikeM

I'm glad you are taking your business elsewhere. Only when our opponents get othered like we do, will this behavior stop.

Posted by: EveR at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (DsGxB)

397 The CDC reported that the percentage of respiratory specimens submitted for influenza testing that test positive decreased from greater than 20% to 2.3% since the start of the pandemic

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (5QBw6)

398 @353

Understood, but my overall point was, I literally just flipped to a randomly to page 2845 of a nearly 6000 page bill.


Another interesting gem found on page 3338 is an extension and expansion of a ban on buying Uranium from Russia, now why would we not want to buy Uranium from Russia?


Seeing as we sold off a large swath of our Uranium to them.


There are so many bad things in this bill that it will make your head spin.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (5xQgm)

399 Any links to who the other 4 Senators were?
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (Ex7Xs)
******
Marsha Blackburn, Rick Scott, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (NpAcC)

400 Florida isn't red, it's pink.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (o2MD2)

401 -395 it was all bullshit to distract trump's legal team. Lin Wood and Powell were fed bullshit by their iranian expert.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (qlfUb)

402 392 What is the point of voting in Ga. when the two asshats that are running as repubs are just going to go along with their dem overlords? You're being conned again Georgia. You can vote repub and feel good that you did something, but the "republicans" you voted for are RINOs and are not going to do a damned thing to save the country.
Posted by: megthered at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (wBOIs)

It comes down to if you think they're going to vote to pass the Green New Deal or not.

Posted by: Allie at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (vmRc0)

403 >>> 394 We are looking at buying acreage in Florida.

I am not sure any place is "safe" anymore, but Florida seems as good as any.
Posted by: blaster at December 22, 2020 09:25 AM (ZfRYq)

I would say it is more about the neighbors you will acquire, wherever you go.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 22, 2020 09:27 AM (02b6n)

404 Father in Law just left with the wife to the hospital.

He's having his prostate removed because cancer.

Thoughts and prayers when you have a chance.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

405 398 @353

Understood, but my overall point was, I literally just flipped to a randomly to page 2845 of a nearly 6000 page bill.

---> Trump's legacy...well it probably goes back to the 2008/9 panic bills they forced W to sign...are these massive anti-bills.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:27 AM (qlfUb)

406 I am totally open to voting for Republicans. I am just waiting for them to give me a reason to vote for them besides trying to scare me with FUD.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 22, 2020 09:27 AM (Ex7Xs)

407 Sponge, p

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:27 AM (nUhF0)

408 Sponge, prayers for your FIL

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:28 AM (nUhF0)

409 If our Judges (Roberts yelling in chambers) and politicians are so afraid of antifa; What is our recourse?

==================
Jefferson spoke to this question, I believe...

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 22, 2020 09:28 AM (EvQC2)

410 Thoughts and prayers when you have a chance.

Done Sponge. Prayers up for you FIL.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #BlockadeDC at December 22, 2020 09:28 AM (HaL55)

411 Two clarifications

One: of the six Senators who voted no, the Scott was Rick Scott from FL, not Tim Scott.

Two: wrt to the $600. What I meant by saying some won't 'qualify' for it, was that I don't believe those that make over a certain amount of income will be getting that stimulus check. Which means even less money went directly to the taxpayer, and even more infuriatingly, even less went to those PAYING for the damned stimulus in the first place.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 22, 2020 09:28 AM (l1C8z)

412 Dominion cleared out it's Denver offices and shredded everything despite the legal requirement to maintain it for 22 months.


Totally legit.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 22, 2020 09:28 AM (Ex7Xs)

413 >>> 404 Father in Law just left with the wife to the hospital.

He's having his prostate removed because cancer.

Thoughts and prayers when you have a chance.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

Prayers up.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 22, 2020 09:29 AM (02b6n)

414 Prayers for your FIL Sponge

Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2020 09:29 AM (Izzlo)

415 407 Sponge, p
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:27 AM (nUhF0)

408 Sponge, prayers for your FIL
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:28 AM (nUhF0)


You stuttered.

Got Coffee?



And thank you very much.....It's appreciated. Greatly.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:29 AM (Zz0t1)

416 It's not liberal or conservative anymore.
It's afraid and unafraid.
When good people are too afraid to voice their opinions, our judges; or our politicians too afraid to fulfill their oath we are living in tyranny.

We are living in tyranny right now.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:29 AM (CZm2G)

417 yeah, not enough covfefe

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 22, 2020 09:29 AM (nUhF0)

418 I've never mentioned that or really care about it. At the same time I'm not a pathetic shill for Dominion.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 22, 2020 09:15 AM (B12g/)

Dominion doesn't matter to me. I am a shill for electronic voting systems though as they're our only hope to combat Dem fraud. Unfortunately that cause and the progress made has been set back at least a decade in the past month. Thanks, I guess.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 09:30 AM (CQ3Qb)

419 Sponge--I just sent a prayer up for your father in law.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 22, 2020 09:30 AM (TdMsT)

420 JJ

you are still locked out of your account!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 09:30 AM (5QBw6)

421 If this were a marriage and law our wife what would she be telling us?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:30 AM (CZm2G)

422 Dominion cleared out it's Denver offices and shredded everything despite the legal requirement to maintain it for 22 months.


Totally legit.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 22, 2020 09:28 AM (Ex7Xs)


NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!!!

GERMAN SERVER!!!!!!

- BiNO

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

423 I've been thinking about John Brown's statement before his hanging. "I am quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 22, 2020 09:30 AM (+y/Ru)

424 416 It's not liberal or conservative anymore.
It's afraid and unafraid.
When good people are too afraid to voice their opinions, our judges; or our politicians too afraid to fulfill their oath we are living in tyranny.

We are living in tyranny right now.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:29 AM (CZm2G)

Are the judges and politicians ACTUALLY afraid, or is it just the old "We're giving you cover to do what you always wanted to do anyway" Good Cop/Bad Cop (actually Bad Cop/Worse Cop) routine?

Posted by: Allie at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (vmRc0)

425 392 What is the point of voting in Ga. when the two asshats that are running as repubs are just going to go along with their dem overlords? You're being conned again Georgia. You can vote repub and feel good that you did something, but the "republicans" you voted for are RINOs and are not going to do a damned thing to save the country.
Posted by: megthered at December 22, 2020 09:24 AM (wBOIs)

It comes down to if you think they're going to vote to pass the Green New Deal or not.
Posted by: Allie at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (vmRc0)
**********
It's about the future and direction of our country. Green New Deal
Reparations, DC a state there will be no future.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (NpAcC)

426 Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

----------------------
My brother had this done (at age 48!) and it solved the problem completely. It also meant his no longer could have children, which he thinks is probably a good thing too. So best wishes to your FIL for a complete and rapid recovery and a great prognosis.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (EvQC2)

427 ha!

Fox News December Ratings Collapse- Friday 12/18: Ingraham -61%, Hannity -57%, MacCallum -54%, Baier -51%, Carlson -50%, Sandra Smith -49%, Cavuto -46%, Perino -41%

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (5QBw6)

428 371

Preach it Mrs Peel

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (CrU4U)

429 422 Dominion cleared out it's Denver offices and shredded everything despite the legal requirement to maintain it for 22 months.


Totally legit.

---> well, the rocksolid principle in American presidential elections is speed is paramount. You can't wait and collect evidence.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (qlfUb)

430 Art nood

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (E8JQx)

431 I will, as always, caution against making much of historical parallels, despite having done so above. The trouble is that 95% of the time the picture you get is one you created yourself. This is a problem for all historicists, whether Hegel, Marx, Macauley, Spengler, Toynbee, or anyone else.

It really doesn't work. The "lessons of history" that actually stand up, are very few, mostly obvious, and even then, need heavy qualification. Even "si vis pacem, para bellum" is belied by the events of 1914.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (7X3UV)

432 Fox News December Ratings Collapse- Friday 12/18: Ingraham -61%, Hannity -57%, MacCallum -54%, Baier -51%, Carlson -50%, Sandra Smith -49%, Cavuto -46%, Perino -41%
Posted by: rhennigantx

---> fuck em all.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (qlfUb)

433 Thank you, everyone, for the prayers.

He's nervous, of course, and wasn't all too happy to find out that he'd have to wear a catheter for a few days afterwards.

I mentioned that it's only a few days. Better than "the rest of your days."

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:32 AM (Zz0t1)

434 Courts afaik have not looked at any evidence yet ... but it is out there for the public. There is a lot of evidence, some of it is servers and routers ... courts are trying to delay the process of examining the hard evidence. (and some trolls are mocking that evidence as fake)

Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2020 09:25 AM (Cus5s)

No one on this thread is responsible for finding and presenting evidence of a secret server in Germany and the whereabouts of hidden final resting spot of Gina Haspel - its a poor tactic on Brian in New Orleans to suggest that it is. Just like he's not responsible for the fact that Dominion never filed that defamation lawsuit they threatened on Sydney Powell, because I guess they lost the map to the court house...

Posted by: Boswell at December 22, 2020 09:32 AM (w2LAm)

435 what would she be telling us?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:30 AM (CZm2G)

I wont suck you but I blow 2 of the neighbors each week.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 22, 2020 09:32 AM (5QBw6)

436 "Trump should veto and propose a streamlined plan. No special interests, no pork, just a $2500 check to every taxpayer."

right ... make a big announcement ... "why does congress hold the shutdown relief money hostage? So they can get their $2.3T filled with pork ... No pork for the rich, they let the people thay have harmed suffer more.

Give me a clean relief bill for the people, go back to regular order on spending instead of massive corrupt Omnibus Pork bills for the rich".

Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2020 09:32 AM (Cus5s)

437 It comes down to if you think they're going to vote to pass the Green New Deal or not.
Posted by: Allie at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (vmRc0)

they will vote to pass the Green New Deal. That's the point. We can vote for anyone and it doesn't matter any more. Voting is just pulling a lever to nowhere. Our vote doesn't matter to these people. We are nothing to them. We could vote for our dog and it would be the same thing. they will do whatever they want and we are powerless to stop them. Yes, we have lots of keyboard warriors here, but in reality, no one is going start CW2. We talk a lot about it but thats all that it is.

Posted by: megthered at December 22, 2020 09:33 AM (wBOIs)

438 I will call him ... "Bastard Biden"

Posted by: SMOD at December 22, 2020 09:33 AM (3aI0K)

439 409 If our Judges (Roberts yelling in chambers) and politicians are so afraid of antifa; What is our recourse?

==================
Jefferson spoke to this question, I believe...

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 22, 2020 09:28 AM (EvQC2)


In Jefferson's day, there was no FBI, no Federal Marshal's Service, not much if any local or state police forces, and a tiny Army.

Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2020 09:33 AM (AMIL/)

440 Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 22, 2020 09:18 AM (Ex7Xs)

Sorry man, that " German CIA server stole the election" bullshit is never going away now. We're going to be explaining that lie when discussing "debunked" voter fraud for the rest of our lives. That's what I was trying to prevent.
Remember when Trump mispelled a tweet so that was secret code that ballots were intentionally misread?
Or the watermarks! Any update on the watermarked ballots that were set up by Trump?
You really have no idea the damage you fools have done with this QAnon shit.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 09:33 AM (CQ3Qb)

441 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 09:30 AM (CQ3Qb)

Shill for electronic voting systems is OK but if you what them represented for integrity then you must acknowledge the flawed and proportional system that is set up in Dominion.

As long as electronic vote counting is manipulable it will never be considered legitimate.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:35 AM (CZm2G)

442 Jeebus, I went to bed thinking the Steelers were gonna win and missed the upset of upsets. Bengals beat Cheating Pittsburgh and Jets beat LAMBS. Fuck, this is omens of things to come.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 22, 2020 09:36 AM (XJfQq)

443 The Freedom Militia needs to start forming......quickly.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 22, 2020 09:23 AM (Zz0t1)

I believe they call themselves the 3%ers.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna


If they didn't have their shit planned and organized two years ago it's already too late.

Posted by: DOCTOR-Elect Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 22, 2020 09:36 AM (OUMaO)

444 Bino the Dominion shill was the guy repeatedly bringing up the topic as part of his Motte and Bailey defense of Dominion. He is the number one pusher of Qanon stuff on this site, happy to bring it up when it literally wasn't discussed in the thread. Concern trolling over it.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 09:37 AM (Zm+LZ)

445 You really have no idea the damage you fools have done with this QAnon shit.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at

---> the MAGAs love their Qanon stuff apparently.

but the practical things that had to have been done over the last month or so..

1. maga rallies to get out info despite censorship by fake news and big tech

2. maybe arrest people like those bitches on tape in GA. where's the GBI.

oh fuck it, the GOP is the uniparty with the pelosi party. who cares.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:38 AM (qlfUb)

446 "It's about the future and direction of our country. Green New Deal
Reparations, DC a state there will be no future.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2020 09:31 AM (NpAcC)"

those things are inevitable

in another 4-8 years, the Republicans will be as much in favor of them as the Democrats are today

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at December 22, 2020 09:38 AM (osPE7)

447 444 Bino the Dominion shill was the guy repeatedly bringing up the topic as part of his Motte and Bailey defense of Dominion. He is the number one pusher of Qanon stuff on this site, happy to bring it up when it literally wasn't discussed in the thread. Concern trolling over it.
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Qanon is a CIA/FBI disinformation plant.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 22, 2020 09:38 AM (XJfQq)

448 Dems and Republicans cannot agree on a bill 2 months ago.

Dems and Republicans cannot agree on a bill 1 month ago.

Dems and Republicans finally start talking behind closed doors 2 weeks ago.

Dems and Republicans agree on a bill, but exclaim that it must be passed immediately.

Dems and Republicans tell the American people that they are keeping Granny from getting $600 bucks for asking for a few days to digest their 5,000 page bill.

This is insanity.

Posted by: Matticus Finch at December 22, 2020 09:39 AM (mENHL)

449 The real Oswald Spengler (not the nom-de-plume blogger) was a total asshole, and a determinist. He had this cutesy chart that showed the slide down the slope -- and he stated very clearly that this was not a warning, but Science. It was going to happen no matter what you did.


That's a hell of a thing to tell people, as I tried to point out to a couple of mouth-breathing teachers in high school. There is no option, and no reason to do anything but collect on the benefits. They couldn't get that part. As it turned out, they were union officials who spent the rest of their lives collecting on the benefits. So much for their Big Liberty Crusade.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 22, 2020 09:39 AM (zMFmR)

450 447 444 Bino the Dominion shill was the guy repeatedly bringing up the topic as part of his Motte and Bailey defense of Dominion. He is the number one pusher of Qanon stuff on this site, happy to bring it up when it literally wasn't discussed in the thread. Concern trolling over it.
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Qanon is a CIA/FBI disinformation plant.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 22, 2020 09:38 AM (XJfQq)

And Bino has been leveraging the hell out of it.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 22, 2020 09:39 AM (Zm+LZ)

451 "You really have no idea the damage you fools have done with this QAnon shit.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 22, 2020 09:33 AM (CQ3Qb)"

because you still think you're going to argue your way to what you want with convincing, moral, fact-based dialectic

and you're wrong, QAnon shit or none

we are not going to discuss our way out of this

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at December 22, 2020 09:40 AM (osPE7)

452 It comes down to if you think they're going to vote to pass the Green New Deal or not.
Posted by: Allie at December 22, 2020 09:26 AM (vmRc0)


Great, we have to guess at whether they'll anally rape us or not. There's not a single positive reason to vote for those turds. It's a moot point for me because I don't live in Georgia

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 09:40 AM (y7DUB)

453 In Jefferson's day, there was no FBI, no Federal
Marshal's Service, not much if any local or state police forces, and a
tiny Army.

Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2020 09:33 AM (AMIL/)

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yes, and this must constantly be borne in mind, along with our surveillance state

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 22, 2020 09:40 AM (EvQC2)

454 In Jefferson's day, there was no FBI, no Federal Marshal's Service, not much if any local or state police forces, and a tiny Army.
Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2020 09:33 AM (AMIL/)
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That's fearful talk.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:40 AM (CZm2G)

455 Brian.. I'm tired having to defend BS claims like yours over and over... If the German server story isn't true and the watermark isn't true... so be it.. the elephant in the room is that a court won't even "hear" the case and the politicians on both sides won't investigate...

but you keep on with your implications that conspiracy theories are keeping the all-mighty elected officials and judges from doing their job and you will be put on that side of the demarcation line.

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 09:41 AM (CrU4U)

456 As long as electronic vote counting is manipulable it will never be considered legitimate.
Posted by: Braenyard

---> oh totally, mail in ballots first though, not something a serious first world nation does.

it's like everything else with the left "let us do our insane treason because we promise to vet the stuff so that the things you accurately predict will happen won't happen [narrator: but they did happen because they didn't do any vetting]".

reagan told to give amnesty but we'll totally deport everyone else [narrator but they never deported anyone else]

obama told us to let in muzzy asylum seekers but we'll vet the bad ones [narrator but they didn't vet anyone]

give us mail in ballots and we'll make sure they're strictly counted [narrator but they counted every ballot that was mailed in]

not only did they count all the mail in ballots they comingled them and made it impossible to review them after the fact.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:42 AM (qlfUb)

457 >>> When judges and politicians do things out of fear of the mob we no longer have law. We no longer have our country.

But in this case they're doing it because hate you and want to get rid of PDT illegally. They are just blaming it on the rioters.

Posted by: Gilded at December 22, 2020 09:42 AM (Q7A+E)

458 they are passing the green new deal as we speak... first step was yesterday... next one will be in 3...2...1...
we aren't voting our way out of this.

Posted by: Silent at December 22, 2020 09:43 AM (CrU4U)

459 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Wi Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong at December 22, 2020 09:44 AM (W4eKo)

460 oh well, gilded, at least we know the left and right are rocked ribbed LEO supporters when it comes to arresting magas.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:44 AM (qlfUb)

461 That's fearful talk.





Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:40 AM (CZm2G)

=============
tactical talk

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 22, 2020 09:45 AM (EvQC2)

462 at the end of the day, if you aren't contacting all your local GOP reps then you're wasting your time.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 22, 2020 09:45 AM (qlfUb)

463 Great, we have to guess at whether they'll anally rape us or not. There's not a single positive reason to vote for those turds. It's a moot point for me because I don't live in Georgia
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 22, 2020 09:40 AM (y7DUB)
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Don't vote Repub in GA and you will get DC and Puerto Rico as states. You will get massive bail outs for blue cities you will get it up the ass with no chance of recourse.

Vote R in GA and you will have a chance for recourse.
It's suicide or live to fight another day. Your choice.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:46 AM (CZm2G)

464 >>> It comes down to if you think they're going to vote to pass the Green New Deal or not.
--
Nah, Romney, Collins, et al can cross over. We had 6 vote against the boondoggle. At that rate we'd need about 450 in the Senate to get 51 votes.

Posted by: Gilded at December 22, 2020 09:50 AM (ciFaK)

465 454 In Jefferson's day, there was no FBI, no Federal Marshal's Service, not much if any local or state police forces, and a tiny Army.
Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2020 09:33 AM (AMIL/)
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That's fearful talk.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2020 09:40 AM (CZm2G)


Sun Tzu said something about knowing your enemy if you hope to be successful against him.

Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2020 09:50 AM (AMIL/)

466 Patrick Byrne and Sidney Powell were at the White House ... no mention of Qanon. Byrne is looking at the data and the packets ... he wants to know about whether servers are being collected (and routers) ... there is already testimony of data packet flow, it is part of the evidence. None of that is about Qanon.


The "all that is Qanon CIA plant conspiracy theory" is itself probably CIA mis-info. Yes examine the ballots, the wrong ink on many, the lack of folds in the mail ins (which would show up in the digital images even). But the other part is how the original machine count was manipulated.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2020 09:52 AM (Cus5s)

467
The love the current episodes of "All Rise" on CBS.
They have gone so into masks and shields that it has "jumped the rona".
I especially loved the judge's face shield .. it is right out of "Flash Gordon". Emperor Ming would be proud.

Posted by: SMOD at December 22, 2020 09:58 AM (3aI0K)

468 Trump will put other countries first. Russia! China!
REEEEEE!!!

Pork up the so called COVID relief bill and now it is
look how much we love the world, haters!

No doubt that significant amounts of money will funnel into unregulated offshore bank accounts that no one with the ability to will audit. If, and that is a big if, someone does? No way it gets press time or any journalistic curiosity whatsoever.

Posted by: The Kleptocracy at December 22, 2020 10:00 AM (uc+oy)

469 " ...
in another 4-8 years, the Republicans will be as much in favor of them as the Democrats are today

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at December 22, 2020 09:38 AM (osPE7)"



You mean another 4 to 8 weeks, right ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 22, 2020 10:12 AM (pmEbq)

470 BiNo is an intern McConnell's staff. He's the GOP Monica.

Posted by: Gilded at December 22, 2020 10:20 AM (ciFaK)

471 What do you think about the 500m to Israel or is that a different kind of money?

Posted by: pattern noticer at December 22, 2020 10:21 AM (abHAZ)

472 Monica Showalter should have known better than to cite that study from Wuhan (really, she should have know better to cite AIER, which should have known better than to rely on it).

AIER links to the original publication in Nature Communications.

Go read it (it's short, it's not hard to follow), then tell us whether you believe a word of it.

There are something like 19 Chinese authors listed, and one non-Chinese author. The study was allegedly done with the cooperation of the Wuhan municipal authorities. No way it could have been submitted to any journal, in the country or international, without an imprimatur from the regime.

During the study period (second half of May 2020, first half of June) supposedly no one developed a symptomatic infection and hardly anyone tested positive for the virus but was asymptomatic. Also, numbers are given for people who had previously been infected and recovered. Anything we've been able to learn about the outbreak in Wuhan tells us these are not high enough.

The authors claimed that 92.3% of people in Wuhan over the age of 6 participated. They also claim that participation was voluntary. Right....

We can't believe published results about asymptomatic infections (and supposed lack of transmission by people who were asymptomatically infected) when the article carefully adheres to the Party line that the epidemic was over in Wuhan by then and hardly anyone was infected any more.

I doubt there was ever a real data set. And anyone who didn't trust *Nature Communications*' review process before certainly won't trust it now.

Asymptomatic transmission is, by its nature, hard to study. This publication contributes nothing useful.

Posted by: retiredcan'tbefired at December 22, 2020 11:12 AM (P2tDU)

473 When you can take the pebble from my hand?

QAnon? I have no idea what the froog it is. At all. Not even curious, in the least. But it seems it's the only thing that dribbles out Pelosi's pie hole.

And Gingrich? Saying Biden isn't his President. But telling Trump HE has to go to the inauguration? These are our leaders (yeah, I resisted the temptation of quotation marks).

The age of reason, is now long past. We have well and truly entered the age of brass and lead.

While the deranged lunatic Left, think they are G*d. And in turn, can f*ck with the real one. Especially those individuals who have a belief in.

This is most definitely not going to end well for the Country. The question is how fast it falls further. How bad things will get. And how soon. I don't think we will have to wait very long to find out.

Posted by: elmo at December 22, 2020 02:04 PM (hZMnF)

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